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going to want to call this meeting to order at 6 o'clock. Madam Clerk, could you please

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call the Roll Commissioner Ms? Here, commissioner comments here, Vice chair night in there

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and cherry holler here. can you please silence that? Whoever's on the phone okay.

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All right. I'm gonna ask you all tries for the Pledge of Allegiance. Enter new assistant

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city manager with awful is going to lead us in that Mr. Commissioner, if we could, all

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police can put our Sandra on the right. And I will begin with the

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Pledge of Allegiance ready? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of

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America. And so the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, and the visible

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region and justice for all. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Ok, before we move on, just

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as a reminder to everyone, if you have, if you have phones, if you could, please put them

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on vibrate and obviously not talking phones during the meeting, that would be most

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appreciated. Okay. There are no presentations this evening.

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Are there any modifications to the agenda? No modifications tonight. Thank you. You can ask

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the Planning Commission for an all in favor to approve the agenda. I I I I motion carries

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with none opposed. Madam Clerk, are there any requests to speak on non agenda

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items? Not tonight. Thank you. Okay. We'll move on to approval of the minutes. There's one set

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of minutes for the Planning Commission's approval. Those planning commission have any

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modifications. All right, seeing none. Can I ask for an all in favor to

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approve the minutes from August? 26 2026 I I I I. None opposed the minutes are

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approved. On the consent calendar. There are no consent calendar

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public hearing. I just like to briefly go over the procedures for that

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following staff's presentation and any questions that the commission may have of staff.

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The applicant will then be given an opportunity to speak. That will be followed by

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members of the audience who wish to address the commission. Each speaker will be given up

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to 3 uninterrupted time to provide their comments. And there's a countdown timer that

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2 comments from the public, however, we may raise questions of staff that are that are

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directly related to the comments that you make. And that would be after the

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hearing is closed to before we proceed commissioner night and has a statement that he

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would like to make the city. Thanks sure. Out of an abundance of caution and

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percent to advice from counsel. I'll be recusing myself from this item to to a common law

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Thank you, Commissioner night. Okay. This is item 9.1 Boulder's project, Mr. A

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community development director. Could you please introduce this item thinks share members of

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the public. The item will be presented by a penny, a manager, Ryan Fowler. I

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but maybe this is probably one of them has projects that are actually going to be percent

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into the Pentagon, which may be second to last. Some rain will be doing the presentation.

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Good evening, chair and commission members of the public. This is a boulders to

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residential project includes 3 and entitlement cases that the general

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plan amendment peel and 24 Dash 0, 2, 5, 3, a change of zone killing. 24 Dash, 0, 2, 5, 2,

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and a plot plan peel. And 24 Dash 0, 2, 5, 1, The project site is located

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north of Newport Road and west of Marietta Road along its southerly boundary is Spirit

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Park. And the project site is located northeast of the terminus. The cul-de-sac there

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of Normandy Road east of the railroad and it's adjacent to the boulders. One project, this

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boulders to project is the same applicant and owner has that Boulder is one project and we

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will talk about a little bit of background on on that in future site. Here. So the general plan

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amendment, I it is to go from 5 to 8 join units per acre Residential land use

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designation to a 20 to 24 a droll units per acre residential land use

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designation. Just important note on this. Back in December of 2021, there was a different

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zoning. The 5 to 8. It was economic development corridor, new part Road that designation

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would have allowed for a mix of uses, including commercial and residential. It would have

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allowed for up to a residential density of 24 dwelling units per acre. In addition to

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commercial uses. So this is kind of going back to that sort of density

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the zoning designation is now currently the low medium density residential. That's to

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align with the 5 to 8. Do you per acre and they are proposing a high-density HDR

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classification. Again, the zoning for the site was the economic development corridor,

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Newport Road that would have allowed for the 24 dwelling units per acre back in 2021.

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Before it was changed. So little bit of a background. These are images of the

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boulders. One project here. You're looking at the from the intersection of Brea Normandy

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to the Northeast at the medical building there at the on the top image and then behind it

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in the background are the residential units. But there's also a podium parking

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facilities see on the upper image and then in the lower image you see of the day care

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center that's there now as well as the boundary between the boulders, one existing site and

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the proposed Boulder's to site. So as far as the timeline that was November

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2021. That the planning commission approved this boulders, one project and then

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in December 2022, they came back, made some modifications, some tweaks, and it was proved

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by planning Commission for those modifications. Then the next year in 2023, they begin

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construction. And in 2025, is when the boulders one started receiving some of their

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certificates of occupancy to open up and start business. It included the boulders

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included 3 medical, a 3 story medical office building which you see there, it had 234 units

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of apartments and that is very similar to what we have before us tonight. And boulders to

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there was a 9 three-story residential buildings, a day care and the putting parking,

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as I mentioned. So as I mentioned, there was this ATC zoning and land use

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designation on the site prior to 2021, you see it there. This is an image showing the

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land use prior to that to 2021 change. So it says a whole swath. The project site

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outlined in red as well as the boulders one project, which is immediately to the West and the

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champion Self storage site. All is the ATC. Really? I think the reason why that was

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originally ATC as because in Newport, Rhode was essentially Normandy road

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that they were mapped to connect and then at some point, the Newport Road was directed

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down to the south and then there's topography there that could have prevented any sort

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of street frontage on the south side of the project site. So seeing that there was no

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street frontage in really make sense to have the requirement of the EDC, which would have

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required a mix of uses with commercial and residential. That's when that was the site

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was changed to a more residential only designation and it was put in this category

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in between the 24 and the existing residential to the to the north and to the east.

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Now we have like us. We have a slightly different scenario and that we have a built

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project immediately adjacent to the site, which wasn't the case back in 2021. We have the

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boulders, one project as well. As you know, we have numbers and this this site would help

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in terms of meeting the city's moderate and above moderate unit requirements for Reno,

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which is a state requirement for housing units, location. It is not just important note.

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This is not low or very low income, but it is meeting more than moderate and above

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moderate. So now for boulders to switching gears to the project

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before you tonight, its 240 unit multifamily. So similar to the

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unit count of Boulders. One, it's on 10.1 for acres. You see it in the blue, a transparent

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coloring, the five-four story, buildings. They were intentionally shifted down and

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away from the residents to the north and to the to the east. So that way they were give a

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much larger setback. You can see in the image on the left hand side. It's great out, but

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you can see the outline of the existing boulders, one project and you can see that the the

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boulders to blue buildings are set back almost double what the boulders. One buildings are set

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back from the residents to to the north. Then along the perimeter on the north and to

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the east, you'll see those yellow tripe Lexus. Those are 2 story.

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So they will mimic car or kind of a line with the the residential to story buildings,

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homes to the north and to the East. There's also a wrecked

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building. That's 5,025 square feet that's shown in the green. And then there's a much smaller

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maintenance building up in the northwest portion of the site was 795 square feet.

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In terms of access. The me the primary access will be right in right

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out off of Newport Road. And there is another access that is a

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full driveway off of Bray a road. You see it's shown it goes through the boulders one

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site and then connects to Boulder's too. She wanted to emphasize in this presentation

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that there is no access through or on Harts Berg. That was an

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intentional originally when the project came in because that road was stabbed out to

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connect. It was really the originally shown in the site plan to connect, but then Spurs

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staff's recommendation that is now closed off. There's a plan or it can't be connected and

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instead we're connecting to Newport, with a write-in right out.

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There are some improvements for traffic that the applicant is conditions to provide.

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So one is a new traffic signal at Berea and Normandy. Just that the northwest corner of

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Speer park there. They will also be required to install a northbound left turn

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lane pocket at that intersection or just want to note, too, that

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they have an alternative scenario and their conditions where they can provide as an

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alternative, a roundabout which would keep traffic flowing at that intersection in terms of

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parking. They're required per our code to provide 374 spaces and they're providing a surplus

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of 4 above that number to 3.78 And in terms of their landscaping and screening.

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So they're going to provide 1.7 acres or 16% of the site will be landscaped throughout

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the site there upsizing the trees to be 36 inch. And 45 48 inch box trees. So kind of

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starting off with a larger specimens. So that way has more of a media impact and then

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along the northern and eastern perimeters of the site, they will be putting in evergreen

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trees and show Brisbane box trees currently, which are rapid growing, have a high of

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about 30 to 50 feet, depending on the environment. And those will be of size to be

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the 36 inch box right off the bat. So that way they scream or immediately.

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There is a landscape setback of the 20 feet on both the north and the east. And then in

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addition, you have on the north side of 40 foot Channel Flood Control Channel that further

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separates them from the residents to the North. Catch a quick question. Can go back

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to that on the eastern boundary between this specific family residences. And that reflects

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is we got the road trees, but is there going to be a cinder block wall, a wall? There is an

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existing law existing will help. Also 6 foot 6. And they will be providing

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recreational amenities can spread throughout the the project site in the northwest

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corner as the the is the sites can slopes up. There is a clubhouse with gentleman's pool

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and spa and in spread throughout the rest of the site. There is a tot lot, 2

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different court yards with picnic tables and shade structures and grilling

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equipment. And then in the northern portion of the site, there is a pickleball court

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and dog Park. There is an open space requirement in the proposed

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zoning designation of HDR that requires 20% open space there providing 21 through a mixture

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of private open space com and open space, recreational area and passive.

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The architecture for the site of the blooms was designed to blend but be distinct from the

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Boulder's one project. So they're using the modern style architecture. Again, they're

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using in the larger buildings, the horizontal lap siding metal awnings really means brick

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stone veneer and then there's us recessing the windows, 2 inches to give it a more a

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higher and look. For the 2 story along the north and the

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east perimeter. They're going to be providing a little bit more warmth in and to more of a

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residential feel, but still tying in some of those modern elements and utilizing garage

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windows. Brick veneer board and batten lap siding, concrete flat tile, roofing and the

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accidents and would pot shelves. One of the ACC's aspects of the

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projects going to mention was that that access on Newport Road. So it does need to go

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through a spirit park. So it will impact 0.1 0 acres of Spirit Park and shift it all

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the way to the east side of the project site to can shorten the length that it has to

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connects to Newport Road and also to avoid the active fields and courts that are in Spirit

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Park right here where this new part road, the extension or connection occurs. It's a

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natural passive turf area. And then and sáááá areas to offset the impacts of this loss

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of Spirit Park. They're proposing to upgrade the parks to install some dog park

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fenced areas with the infrastructure for that as well. Benches and and fountains

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with that. Last week we did take the projects to the parks, Rec's

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and Trails Commission that was on September. 3rd. To discuss, they're quick to

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calculation, essentially for the public. The part that is the fee that can up that goes

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to park acquisition. And at that meeting we received feedback from Prt. See, we will

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need to go back after this project 2, because that was continued. That discussion

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to solidify and finalize the Queen bee calculation discussion. That is pretty

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standard. all projects after they're entitled go to the Rtc to iron out the details of

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credits and how much she could be the responsible for. And the reason

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why this one was brought before the planning Commission occurred was because of COVID,

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the unique aspect of having Newport, Rhode go through the the Spirit Park.

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Initial study for Sequin for California Environmental Quality Act to initial study, a

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mitigated negative declaration was prepared, determined that the project will not have a

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significant effect on the environment. And the public comment period

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ran from July 29th to August 18th. We did receive comments from the from

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the Department of Toxic Control, Substance or talks. It substances control.

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And those comments were satisfied. Nothing further was required from them. And then we

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did receive a couple 2 different correspondents. We email. You have all the

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correspondence from the residence and then we did just receive one today that was

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forwarded to you in part of your package. So this time staff is

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recommending to adopt a resolution. I'm recommending adoption of a

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mitigated negative declaration, incorporated and staff are in

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the initial study in the conclusion that Boulder's to project look at approximately

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600 feet east of railroad northeast of the eastern terminus of nor any road will

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not have a significant effect on the environment. And to adopt a resolution

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recommending City council approved the general Plan Amendment zone change the plot

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plan for both the boulders to project. Just to make a quick note on that first bullet

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should be recommending adoption. And then also you have for

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exhibits in your blue folder. 3 of those are essentially enlargements are a print outs

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for of Bell, make it a little bit more readable review of the exhibits that were in the

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exhibit packet. You'll note that and on the on the one exhibit we struck out

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language that said that only part. The part of the project site was in a very high fire

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zone. Just want to make that correction for the record that it is the entire site that is

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within that high fire zone. And then in addition, there is an exhibit showing the the

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odd. There were some minor discrepancies between the version that is in your packet

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and what they're currently processing with our fire fire department. So we provided that

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as well. And then also, exhibit showing the the deployment areas and the the ladder

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deployment from the fire trucks. So this concludes staff presentation were here to

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answer questions. Thank you, Ryan. My colleagues have any questions for staff,

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Chris. These are private streets right? There are private streets. Okay? Yes, he

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approaches street. Who's responsible case for the rhino. The tribe, the tribe

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is going to is the tribe, the tribal area where the rocks and all that is, you know, is

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that currently deeded to families are going to be deeded to them. It is going to be

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needed to them. And so will the trial be responsible for? Clean debris trash weeds all

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about who's our world? Well, the ICA homeowners to say so CA should have an easement and

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have to do who's going to be responsible for cleaning that that area.

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So the applicant will need to have some access for 4 to that area for maintenance, including

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for odd. So they know they have to be worked out in the easement

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between Pechanga in the the applicant. So you say the applicant. Does it

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mean the H.O.A. once it's built around that H.O.A. is responsible for maintaining

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that entire area or just certain fuel like so many feet in.

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Just a point of clarification. Did the the project is safe or rental a product? Therefore,

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I'm sure there's going to be a choice if they don't. That probably happened or that

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company management company and they should be the property owner correctly on. But they

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will legally be responsible for maintenance worker at a pay.

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And just to confirm. Part one of the conditions of approval as that.

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The project to install a traffic signal at Normandy in Berea right? Is that correct?

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Yes. Okay. Or they have an option of the roundabout roundabout and me

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if they do the roundabout. There will be no dig at extension of the left turn

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pocket. That's correct me. But the way it is, that's correct. Okay. And is it one

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of those two-lane roundabouts or a single lane roundabout? That's something that's going

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to be decided in final engineering. He's going to be will says

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Signalized and going to be a very bitter option. 10 traffic signals for for that location.

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It doesn't quite have the discussion points later. Thank you, Ryan. That was very

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thorough I just I have a question why are we

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considering the very height and says density instead like medium density?

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part of it was to make it a continuation of the boulders. One project there was serious

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thought about how to better buffer, the boulders to projects how we can do better

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than even boulders. One. So shifting all the density more to the southwest away from

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the residence. But putting the residential buildings that are the same

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height. This is the 2 story along the boundaries. In addition, the the higher

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designation does help to us with reaching our moderate numbers for arena. Moderate

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income numbers. Thank you. And with regard to the access road.

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Because it's in a high severity. Fire zone.

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Another access is required whether or not it's. At a low density medium

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density. Things like that, right? That's so the access of Newport

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Road would be required, whether it's this project or another project on this project site.

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It's really just a necessity of developing this project site. And my question.

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There with me and so with regard to the tribal property that is protected. And that's

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not a part of the 20% open space. Correct? No, that's that's not part of that.

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Collation. I I have some questions also for for staff. So I want to

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start with. With fire. So when I reviewed the agenda report in the agenda packet.

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The materials in the packet indicated that this site was partially yes, please, Madam

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Fire Marshal was partially in a very high fire hazard severity zone and that the rest of it,

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the say the westerly two-thirds ish. Was in a moderate fire hazard

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severity zone. And I don't believe that's correct. And I think we established that that

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was looking at that is state responsibility, area maps, not LRA maps and the LRA maps, the

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local responsibility area. Does indicate that this is in the very high fire hazard

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severity zone in its entirety. Is that correct? Madam Chairman Chair? That's correct. Thank

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you. And so I that they gave me concern because that changes the

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requirements for help projects going to ground. And part of that has to do with

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0 zone. Landscaping requirements and where you can't have any sort

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of combustible materials in the euro zone. And I didn't know on this handout that there is

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strikeout language. Houston was too correct. Yes. I do know their language but

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rain. Could you go back to those slides? I think it was. Maybe the landscape plan.

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That one that one. So here's my concern. There are different requirements and well, I see

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that this one has been revised. The symbolic G that I see on this exhibit still indicates

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landscape material in the 0 zone with the color green. And so here's my concern.

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I think this is resolve bubble, but my concern is. It's difficult to do that. Right

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now. So I want to put that out there and and ask staff before we

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get into public testimony. How would you propose to resolve those issues? Because

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they directly relate to findings that we have to make. So that's that's my question

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for you is a fair question. Jennifer Marshall, they may want to turn to you at some

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point. It's light. Ask you just a hang on for you in relation to that. Just to clarify where

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she speaks, if I look at this. Like I'm looking at the buildings in the center.

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Here's Kareen. In some sense, it looks like there's a gray area. Is that satisfied the

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zeros on doors? Do they have to get rid of all that green? So I don't.

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We're looking at we're looking screenings of it. So it's hard for me to determine. I I don't

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know. So that's I get. So the question is, does this? I just one of us satisfy the

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0 Africa just explains. So you do see that Grayson, biology, that it might not be shown in

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the legend here on the other exhibits of the landscape packet. That is indicate that

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that is the 0 to 5 zone. So there is no combustibles allowed in there and it does

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indicate that that will be more gravel czar are clearly not things like that. But non non

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combustibles. So here you see in the image there is about a 5 foot strip everywhere where

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the building touches at the something other than concrete. It's it's that 5 foot gravel

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strip. Okay, that that's helpful to hear. So the only place in the

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hack it were it described because I also saw Barca mulch and other things listed here.

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The only place in the packet where that was describe because like it's hard to read the text

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in the packet. It's actually hard for me to read this text on the sheet like, but I can't.

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This is the only place in the packet that needed this strikeout. And you're certain.

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So we did. Yes. So the note that says that it's only partially within the high fire,

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if that's what you're referring to. Yes, that was only place that that needed that. So then

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I have a I have a follow-up question. You can leave that exhibit up on the screen.

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Sony, thank you, sir. Yes, shorter than men for money that is perfectly fine with me.

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So the exhibit that I'm looking at here is this buffer exhibit A of use. This is in the

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packet. Also, he received the is the storm that is a few modification.

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Yes, so I can I can bring it to you. If you'd like okay, okay. So here's my question.

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Also in the very high fire hazard severity zone. If the 100 foot. But for that is one

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of the zones. Yes. So I see 100 foot buffer, but it does go into an open space area.

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Is some modification to that required threw an AM and m that would show up in the

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alternative. Methods and materials. I think. Is that with that, that's they get that

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acronym or you didn't get their rights and their events. You shows up in the F P p I'm

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sorry for all these acronyms, folks. The fire protection plan, alternative methods and

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materials to satisfy requirements in a fire protection plan. That's what

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I'm asking. So, yes, it is that it could get my articulated

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that correctly, because what I see here doesn't appear to meet that. So there's going to be

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3 beyond his own 0, 1, 2, 3, And then that would be the 0 to 5, 5, to 30, the 30 to 100

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right or up into the property line. And so those measures might be up into the property

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line is what you're seeing. The fire protection report will study additional measures to

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those who it was other additional. I wouldn't call it among them because they're

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not doing something that's not prescriptive. But it might be that based on the technology

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from behavior, Fire report, whatever program that they used might indicate that the fire

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links are the flame Heights are. I'll be drastic. But like 12

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feet in height or something that might say with that. And with the scientific

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knowledge of and amber casting and those type of things in combination might require that

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offense might some type of the block fans to start seeing you all are tempered glass on top

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of the wall so that that report would come out in addition to if it deemed that those

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patterns occurred in that area, that the report did those scientific testing. So that

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might my question, my question to you I do understand that. So yet this evening, I have

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to make finding certain findings related to safety issues. And I don't have that

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data. So how how help me out her? Okay. How do you get me pass that where we don't have

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of spp that's approved so they can submit in the preliminary for protection report, which we

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have reviewed within that preliminary review that we've done so currently

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there's nothing significant. They would change the project in its infrastructure

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and its roadways in the way that they presented in the Fire Protection report and

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approved fire protection report gives them up into a building permit release too. and a

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final. When he pulled a building permit. You still have to come

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compliant with what the code is today. So if the pulled it in 2 years are they pulled it

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in 6 months? It is what today's requirement is, which is all the zones to

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0, 1, 2, 3 feel modification requirement and all the requirements that are put forth

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in the California will be code and so they would have to come compliant. The should they

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choose to put today. Should they choose it to pull in 2 years? Those requirements

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when change and what we've seen today. Nothing drastic is changing.

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So we're deferring that until building permit issuance, which still leaves me with the

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challenge of how do I make a finding today? So now I'm going to turn back

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over here to staff and our city attorney for some guidance because and I'm I'm still I

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still have some. Level of unease with us. And so I'm hoping you you can walk me

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through this. So I believe one of the condition they're standard

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conditions is to require prior to pulling any building permits to confer with and receive

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approval from the fire marshal. If I'm not mistaken as such at anytime, right, whether it's

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2 or 10 years from now. I think the language that says the project will be condition to

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meet all political Code Section Santas and ordinances at the federal state and local levels.

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Maybe we can add something that says in particular in regard to, you know, very high fire,

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severity or something like that. That specifically speaks to your concern regarding the

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high fire hazard. The might get just might get me there. Helped get me there.

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I I just. I just want to reiterate that. So I have to make findings and

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I'm not quite there yet. But that may provide an option to be able to do that. For

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example, on the buffer. I'm I'm a little bit on the customers. Even if BP delayed

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and not Don a little earlier, but that may be the city's process. But but whether that's

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through the use of a CMU wall and tempered glass or some combination thereof that serves

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to to mitigate for the lack of a full 100 foot. But for into open space area that might do

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it. So I. Maybe I'll ask you to think about it and we can go through

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the hearing and I I can come back to this. So this is just to me asking questions right

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now. Well, just might I just to answer some of your concerns regarding the conditions or

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whether would meet those conditions are to meet the public health, safety and

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welfare of the community. Several conditions under the office of the Fire marshal

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include 206, very high fire area. This project is now in a very high fire area proposed

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buildings. The shall meet the requirements of construction. Cbc CFC chapter. 49 and to

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comply with title 14 requirements of the Board of Fire Forestry and Fire

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Protection regulations. So again, at the time of building permit, it would have to meet

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all those requirements section excuse me, condition to a 7, 5 protection plan. Fire

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protection plan for this project must be submitted and approved prior to any

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landscaping being approved. Please ensure that all information on the landscape

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plan, some middle matches what is proposed and approved in the spp. I defer to the middle

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for the fire protection plan must be made to them in a few office of the fire marshal

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prior to a building plants, the middle again, notwithstanding the the excuse

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me, the exhibits. Wet weather. It says there is no escaping for 5 fever, 10

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feet if in 2 years the state says that our local area needs to have 20 feet as you're

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escaping. That's what will be required at the time. The building permit. It's being

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pulled under the fire protection plan and finally condition to 8 feel

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modification. Few modifications and landscaping. Details show it here to the film adaptation

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that excuse me feel modification plan. The first the middle for the fire

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modification plan must be made to the minute the office of the Fire marshal prior to building

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plants. The middle. So each of these conditions remind us that the exhibit may see something

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today which has been updated by staff. And I think your point is very clear. However.

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When a project moves forward for building and landscaping, et cetera, it will have to meet

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the most stringent. Most current requirements under state and local policies and

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laws. And that will include whatever additional standards might be required for purposes

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of health, safety and welfare of the public. Thank you. Thank you.

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Ok, my my other comments, I'm going to. I think on this is we. Because through the rest

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of the meeting, other comments or questions were about traffic. And I don't know where

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that might be the most appropriate for elder, though, or the

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traffic consultant is here. How do you want to handle that? I don't think Trump consultants

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here today. You said they're not. They're not okay. Well, then I guess you get my

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So can can you can you walk me through the the splits, the the percentage

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of of trips and the PM Peak trips that are coming out, the going

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in and out this the call it the secondary access as opposed to the primary access. You want

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Ryan to some exhibits and that's for sure. That's one. Regular stamina. And what I'm

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And with that, an exhibit. Okay. Yeah, I can. I can explain so in going into psycho

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going out of the site during the Am Peak hour and during the am, you have 5% coming out.

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The Brea and heading north. You have 60%. This is at this driveway. 3 location that you

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see on the screen. And then and you see the 3 and a detailed on the top 3rd one

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over so 5% goes up. Brea 60% goes down. Brea. And then if you go to driveway 6, that's

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the new part Road Connection with Project Drive way and going out in the

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Am. You have 35% because it's right in right out going right on Newport Road. And then in

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the PM, the changes slightly. You have 45% off Berea going in.

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And then 55% from Newport, Rhode going into the project that's in the PM.

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So dare I also have the numbers, for example, on to thrive. We? Going into the

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project. For the AM. We have 12 troops and for the PM have to do to be keeps that's going

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inbound. It's bone. We have. 25 Toups and the AM. And to be on the driveway and

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have for the other streets. If you are, you know the numbers too.

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But I do recall reading in the in the agenda packet that in I know that you

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you've already indicated that improvements to the signal that Normandy Embree are required.

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Whether that's actual signal improvements or construction around about I did

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read that. Was it below us? Which I know isn't a sequel issue, but it is a general plan

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issue. Those the mitigation would resolve that. None of the other intersections met

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thresholds for similar type improvements. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay.

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And again, just to the size of tube. In more on that on the traffic seago, you do for

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traffic signals in there. You know, it would cause problem with the flow.

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Grossman, this red light. The car has to stop. And when these 2 roundabouts and the

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floor is just constantly going. Will serve better. The project. Ok? Thank you.

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That's all I have to. You all have any other questions. You do? Yeah, I have couple

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additional questions. So can we pull up that presentation real quick again, that same slide

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you had. Ok? So at number 3 on the east, though, Western.

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The Western exit of the project where Brea comes up and they can turn right into the project

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or someone lives tour of all they can go up. Is there going to be a stop sign or anything

407
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or is it just a continuous flow? And the people coming out of the project have to

408
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yield to traffic com Berea. Not for enormity north of that. If you look on this on this

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where the number 3 is the Western exit of the project behind Boulders. One. Where

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it's the. What is that the some the U.S. Western northwestern corner

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of boulders. One where the car is going to be coming out from the project.

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They're obviously they'll stop at the exit there, but is it will bring you have any kind

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of stop sign. 2. Mitigate for the number of cars leaving or is it going to be

414
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just treated like a driveway? Just a driveway? Okay. You know, if I agree with that,

415
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but OK, we'll time you can talk about that. Next question is. In this letter that was in our

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packet. There's a couple issues if we could just asked some questions about it. First on

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the very front of the first page, this was this was submitted by Aaron Givens he

418
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brings up a couple issues. Number one. On the northbound Berea where

419
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it enters the existing single family residence. Apparently there's a lip of some kind

420
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that's that's causing problems that should be addressed in the conditions may be a smooth

421
00:46:09,856 --> 00:46:18,856
transition or something. I don't know. So are you aware of that issue at all?

422
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We received the letter and that was something that we can discuss the findings near where

423
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there is something that we can do on our maintenance of the road

424
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they also said that there's a curb in front of the fire hydrants Umbria that's not

425
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painted red and locked. You know anything about that? You know what? All the curbs.

426
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The sweet painted red. But if there's a fire hydrant, there should be a red zone.

427
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Right? It can be painted red and all of them use. Not only one on this. Beep at ABC had a

428
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comment. Yes, actually passed by the site prior to coming here and there were trucks

429
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blocking the fire. Yeah. So basically it's like a horse meat issue of snow and should

430
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be parked within 15 feet of a fire hydrant. Yes, okay. So pop possibly could be paying

431
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a red, OK? I just want to ask if you know of these issues that some the next one was.

432
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And it has to do with they did upgrade the trees on the boundaries here. Like you said

433
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to the 36 inch and evergreens and things in the letter they talk about there's a landscape

434
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buffer of 24 trees or deciduous and I don't quite understand in a letter where they're saying

435
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those are. Do you have the letter in front of you? It says didn't say exactly

436
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where but it, but I'm assuming it's up against the the along the

437
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flood control Channel Channel. Yeah. Okay. So I believe there is multiple

438
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rows of trees that will Rosa to. So are they all just sit I'm sorry. I don't know off the

439
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top of my head. with that they all are okay. Last question is on Newport Road where we turn

440
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into the new the new having ear and Ingress to the project. Are they going to be installing

441
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a a new deceleration lane? And is that going to cut into the park property that which

442
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which I'm fine with it just cups in a little bit. I mean, where's that? New deceleration

443
00:48:21,387 --> 00:48:25,792
lane. Deceleration in going to come from. They're going to dedicate that

444
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period. So this will become a decidir nation. They need there and that's gonna help you with

445
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the involved and also slow down the traffic death coming into report. So it's going to have

446
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its own 10 foot or what is it? What is a deceleration is a foot 10 foot. What is the with

447
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the one of those? I think it's about the town besides that. That is also the the bike lane.

448
00:48:49,702 --> 00:48:54,408
That's also continues all the way across. And there. So it's going to be.

449
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Regular lanes lane bike lane. And then deceleration lane. Offer Chair Commissioner Thomas

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Nick Filler Public Works director. The project will construct a new right turned to

451
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celebration lane for westbound Newport as a into the entry. The entry will be right in

452
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right out the right turn. Deceleration lane will help the cars slow down as they're

453
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entering into the driveway. It will be about a 10 foot wide. That's typical for right

454
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turn. And so so rushed to get that you're going to cut into the

455
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move to curb and into the park to get that right. Correct. Okay. We might have a little

456
00:49:32,145 --> 00:49:36,583
bit of that might not be it for quite a full 10 feet. We'll get through that and

457
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final injury. When we look at there's currently a bike lane in by about for lane. So we

458
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might be able to absorb some of that debt out of the bike lane. But for lane through

459
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there. But that will be something we determine final engineering. So just from me.

460
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I know engineering is determined based on numbers. But if there is a choice, I'm

461
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okay was eating up some of the part. I'd rather have a safe Even if we have some of that

462
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there. But will there be an acceleration lane? But on the right out from there, no, there

463
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won't be there and just be the right turn. Deceleration land. So it the right turn.

464
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Deceleration lane allows for the people that are exiting to see that if the car is

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actually entering into the driveway or if there's an open spot in the number 3 lane for

466
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the westbound traffic check on traffic. So that will help provide that distinction

467
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between the people that are turning right. And the people are going through so that they

468
00:50:30,971 --> 00:50:37,477
can find that gap in traffic. And is there any line of sight issues if you are to be pulling

469
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out you on the year in the project, your point you're going to turn right on Newport.

470
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You're going to look a laugh to see. You know, the 50 mile an hour, 89 or car coming at

471
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you. Is there is there a line of sight study at that point? They do it by pulling that

472
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right. Turn lane back obviously helps the line of sight unless of a larger vehicles coming

473
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into that right turn lane, then they can determine whether or not they have a clear

474
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visibility. Okay. One of the issues we might want to bring up is whatever we.

475
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Change that little cut out. That's going to be there because we're going to top it

476
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off in the park. Is the the corner there? Retains line of sight. So it's

477
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:29,520
definitely yes, we will definitely do that. Ok? Thank Okay. And just a couple more

478
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:38,100
questions. Regarding. Cash for got. Here we go.

479
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I list right here and I just wanted to clarify the eyes and and the

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for boaters to states that Roland is the school districts. And can we clarify that and

481
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make? Yeah. So it is. So does the parish Union High School District and the minute the

482
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Union School district. So we can make that strikeout in the

483
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final version of the I-70 that gets finalized. Okay. Great. Now as I was looking at the

484
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maps. And ice in Boulder's one folders one rich, more

485
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elementary school is the home school. And then we have West. We have the other projects over

486
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there. But the duplexes and then we have the KB Homes. And I'm thinking to myself,

487
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all those. All those projects are are the homeschool for rich. More. Have we talked to

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the District 10 communicated with them in terms of the impact to that particular

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school. Is so a couple things on that one is that we always transmits

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to the school district's when we have a new project so that there aware early on they could

491
00:52:58,361 --> 00:53:04,433
begin the planning process early on. We also coordinate with them on a yearly basis

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explaining what projects are in process where they are in the process. They're also part of

493
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the sequel review. So they were notified and sent the I S M and T to to comment on. If they

494
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if they felt. In addition to that, we also staff's perspective, we have quarterly

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meetings. We there, director of facilities where we have to do in all of the projects and let

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him know what's on the pipeline for them to prepare for the additional units.

497
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Great because I think the principal would be very happy. I'm pleased to. Receiving

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enrollment but also to prep para for the additional traffic and have that. Lead time for

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prep. I know this isn't far into the future, but they need that

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prep time. And and then with regard to the heart. Weird. Cutting out 4,356 feet of the

501
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park. And I watched the parks and rec meeting and there's that

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they stated that they were. Behind in their part, cool. So.

503
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How is this moving forward? The cull or what is the plan to move forward to going to

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achieve? The 5 acres per resident. Well, I was the that's a very

505
00:54:34,110 --> 00:54:41,718
loaded question, right? The the general plan does have a significant or a specific

506
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requirements as far as what the goal is for us to provide high open space in park for the

507
00:54:49,426 --> 00:54:56,800
CD, right? Every party that comes scene. We we see the opportunity to require or ask

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the to provide some park space over open space, too. Isis doesn't with meeting that goal

509
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right? The end of the day they have to go through a process aimed through the calculation

510
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of the creamy agreement, impact fees and those impact fees says the CDC in acquiring property

511
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in and building new parks as well. So in regards to this specific project

512
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this is unique because it's probably one of the few projects that actually has and

513
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the impact on existing park or it actually taken away open space.

514
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So the app pic and we've had discussions with you have to kind of sets you see on the

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proposal they try to upgrade the existing parking, create more amenities. They are

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willing to continue to have conversations but staff with community service

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as well and eventually meet Parks Commission as well and make sure

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that to the not only comply with the Queen Bee requirement, but also I either upgrade or or

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or provide some type of public benefit, but it's going to ups of set

520
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square footage as a result of the driveway. Thank you. Okay. I don't have anything

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else for staff at this point in time. So I'm going to open the public hearing at 6. 55.

522
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Madam Clerk, can you confirm that this item was legally noticed and if any

523
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correspondence has been received, it was in any correspondence is and you put

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fielders. Thank you. Now I'd like to invite the applicants to the podium to

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speak. And as you're coming forward, if you please introduce

526
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yourself when you're at the podium. But as you're coming forward, if I also asked, do

527
00:57:06,730 --> 00:57:14,371
you agree with the conditions of approval as they currently exist? My name is Rich Wilson,

528
00:57:14,371 --> 00:57:18,675
myself and John Cho are partners in this fifty-fifty and I the managing partner.

529
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And yes, we do agree to conditions of approval. Thank you.

530
00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:29,329
I want to thank all the commissioners and the staff. I think that their power point

531
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presentation was extremely strong. And so I'm gonna if you could pull a page

532
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4. It in our package, if you could, it could bring up the

533
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applicants are point. You go to Page 4. I'm going to give a little

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history of the First entertained to the bowlers. We call the bull is one, which

535
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is a 10 acre parcel of the bowlers to which is to 5 acre parcels. And we look to

536
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:04,498
purchase the 20 acres the first thing was access. And if you can see the

537
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green lines up there, the to act, this is where offer Berea. But we are asked and it's tough

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to see. Can you magnify those at all? Even more if you can't just

539
00:58:19,346 --> 00:58:23,717
keep going? All right. Let's look at Normandy and those are the Purple Line's. So you see a

540
00:58:23,717 --> 00:58:31,458
street come enough nor money going to. Into boulders one and then you

541
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see another street that was supposed to go to the bowlers, too. And we were told that both

542
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of those who were not could not be achieved because of of tribal.

543
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Features in the area. When we first looked at the project, we wanted to bring for those 2

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roads going bring. It will call to be in the. South Road would come all the

545
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way through. Go through Braille, boulders, one in debris bullish too. And then it

546
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would actually attached to harbor. And that's what we thought we were going to

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originally do. And then the most, the Street, which is parallel a canal, would come

548
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down through. Bull is one boulders to and then turn and connect to would have a loop.

549
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That's what we thought we were going to have. We purchase boulders, one at

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that time. Bull is one in boulders to which the brine. Clearly he thought it was part

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of the EDC Newport Road and then we had to have a was to add 24 units per acre. We have

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had had to have a commercial and a business, a portion of the project. So that's why we

553
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put the medical center building in there, which is a three-story medical center.

554
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And we also build a daycare center, which is the 9,000 Square foot,

555
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a day care to enhance the project. We felt both the medical center and the daycare

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but help enhance the community. During that construction phase of boulders.

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The boulders to the developer told us that there was going to he was working with the city to

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turn. It turned into single family housing had a density of the 8, which with ADA, he could

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make it 160 units. And then he talked to us until said he could not make a pencil and

560
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that was going to go to the market again at that time we met with the city and we asked

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if we if we could go back to do 24 and that was the verb each at the time was that with

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Reena, which is the new State procedure to increase residency units in a city that they felt

563
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that was possible. And we want to head and purchased. The goal is to think, you know, we're

564
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going to put 240 units just like we did in Boulder's one because of pencils for us.

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And then in 2025, we were told by the city that he harbored a entry into the project would

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not be allowed for 2 reasons. One day received complaints from the neighbors, concerns

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from the neighbors of higher traffic. But the real reason are a strong reason was the

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fire marshal did not want to have access with fire equipment coming down through a

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residential neighborhood and what you have to meander through to get to the project.

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And at that time they told us we would not be able to use harder to be closed off.

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And you can see there's a white line through there. And then that time they also suggested

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that they felt that we be allowed to go through Spirit Park and what they call the

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01:01:49,857 --> 01:01:56,196
new Port Road cut through. So we thought that was the pretty logical idea. And that

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allowed the staff to access is one access from Berea Road North and the other coming

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in from new port. So that meant that we we felt we had a green light to continue to develop

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the property and that approximately a month ago, we were told that on Spirit Park

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in lieu of having to cut through that. If we would put a dog to

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dog parks, a large dog park and a small dog park and some improvements to the year.

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And we agreed to that. And that has been finalized. But you can see the yellow. There's 2

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01:02:29,129 --> 01:02:36,804
circles there and that yellow areas of the dog parks, a small dog park and then a large dog

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park for the size. The dogs also canopies there for shade. Seeding tricking found trick in

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town for the dogs and also for for the folks. If you look, we also a one-time

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one of the dog parks was going to be on the. West side of the cut through. But the thing they

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want the project to be in the most passive areas, which we put them both on the on the

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east side. If you can see the Spirit Park, which is phenomenal park. But just to

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the basketball courts, tennis courts, the play areas, the rec area, the shaded area, the

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barbecue areas and the parking lot. The mayor is all to the to the West and that the past most

588
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passive area is where the cut through is. And that's what we have today.

589
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I don't think it would behoove us to go through the our Power Point

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01:03:31,104 --> 01:03:39,111
presentation because it was so well covered by by staff. I just want to give a little

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history of the access because the access was Spence been a challenge and we've we've we

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think we've worked through it. Do I do? I entertain questions to do is sit down. Let me

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check. Okay. My colleagues have any have any questions. Yeah, I'm just interested. Is the

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medical center, the stout and the apartments leased out. What's the the medical center?

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The 3rd floor? The first of all. We have a dermatology in the

596
01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:14,212
first floor that's been there for about 3 months out. Maybe 4, the 3rd floor is a sign

597
01:04:14,212 --> 01:04:20,180
contracts were in construction. We have a building permit. And that is going to a company

598
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called respite, which does health care. Its kind in county by county

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01:04:27,125 --> 01:04:36,725
state agency and then on the first floor, we have the Golden Gate Golden Gate to

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medical, which is a pediatric doctors. And you regulars, doctors and they and their

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project. We're in permitting with that. We have a contract over permitting that.

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So basically the 3rd floor in the first floor full and the second floor. We have been 23,

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01:04:56,788 --> 01:05:01,659
people that are entertaining it and we have not signed contracts that any of those 3

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want to miss the dentist want. And then the other one is AM. Rehabilitation center.

605
01:05:10,350 --> 01:05:16,474
Okay. And they do that. By the way, then you react to the population. The day care of

606
01:05:16,474 --> 01:05:20,812
that will hold 120 right has a 80 80 plus students. So they're profitable now and they're

607
01:05:20,812 --> 01:05:25,750
running. I think it's a very high caliber daycare. I'm very, very happy. But the folks that

608
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:34,750
have that and then we're right now at 199 occupants in the 234. So we're about 80 89 just

609
01:05:36,594 --> 01:05:42,167
about not quite 90%. We get between for 5 to 6 people week that move in. So we're

610
01:05:42,167 --> 01:05:47,305
expecting some time late this year that before it fully occupied and are you

611
01:05:47,305 --> 01:05:52,944
obviously is can the city will make the final decision? But are you leaning towards a

612
01:05:52,944 --> 01:05:58,249
traffic signal or a roundabout way around about would keep better flow. We've talked to.

613
01:05:58,249 --> 01:06:03,122
Would you like are engineered to speak on that? I just wonder which way you're leaning, but

614
01:06:03,122 --> 01:06:07,794
we're going to go whatever the site. But we think that the roundabout has better

615
01:06:07,794 --> 01:06:11,994
circulation. Thank you for that. Good questions.

616
01:06:14,666 --> 01:06:21,266
Thank you for being here tonight. The pathways or maybe this

617
01:06:22,476 --> 01:06:31,117
point I'm not. I'll ask the question. You let me know the pathways that go through.

618
01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:38,917
That connects the 2 dog parks. I see too. Pathway to rip what routes

619
01:06:39,224 --> 01:06:43,362
ripped prop that rip rap. That's there. Now it's a drainage facility. We're asked

620
01:06:43,362 --> 01:06:48,368
to put one on one side and another one on the other. But those are not by staff.

621
01:06:48,368 --> 01:06:53,840
Are they connecting pathways? So there is a path that goes East West on the North side and

622
01:06:53,840 --> 01:07:01,814
then the Ripper app that you see splits the 2. But the pathway will continue through

623
01:07:01,814 --> 01:07:07,530
the road through the road and there will be the markers there and lights when you push him.

624
01:07:07,530 --> 01:07:11,424
But last year's come up and then cars will stopping you walk walk through. That was my

625
01:07:11,424 --> 01:07:16,796
closest walk area. Also in that area, we're going to enhance it. And, you know, we're going

626
01:07:16,796 --> 01:07:26,706
to put a drinking fountain and there will be a little too. You get is evil type, said the

627
01:07:26,706 --> 01:07:32,110
passive area. Yes, thank you for clarifying that because the times that I've been at

628
01:07:32,110 --> 01:07:37,650
Spirit Park people use those pathways was walking path. Yes, I want to make sure that

629
01:07:37,650 --> 01:07:46,626
it's well lit. And when cars are turning and coming out, they have clear visibility of

630
01:07:46,626 --> 01:07:50,830
the pedestrians and and we live in the life. We live currently with the e-bikes.

631
01:07:50,830 --> 01:08:00,830
So all the papers that go through that area as well. Thank you. And I may have a

632
01:08:01,574 --> 01:08:04,944
question for you later, but we can ask you to return to the point that they do need to

633
01:08:04,944 --> 01:08:08,715
speak to any of our consultants at this time. I don't think so. Ok? Well, thank you. Thank you.

634
01:08:08,715 --> 01:08:16,122
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Madam Clerk. Are there any requests to speak

635
01:08:16,122 --> 01:08:25,722
on this item? Yes, there are. Tom Bureau 5 followed by Carla I've been in residence in 1992.

636
01:08:35,108 --> 01:08:40,413
I mean, if it was just a little hole in the ground that can I ask you to introduce you saw

637
01:08:40,413 --> 01:08:46,386
Tom Burroughs. Thank you. This gentleman talks so far that's been a lot of places of

638
01:08:46,386 --> 01:08:49,389
deserted and department. I just talked to a neighbor leadoff or 2 months free rent,

639
01:08:49,389 --> 01:08:55,707
if you would read up a spot this month. So the key faithful, I'm confused about

640
01:08:55,707 --> 01:09:03,470
new part because if you seen it goes up when they make Newport, they raised it up. Behind the

641
01:09:03,470 --> 01:09:10,388
houses. So you have to go just courtesy. If you go up, I don't know how you gonna handle that

642
01:09:10,388 --> 01:09:16,395
and you just turn right on Newport because you've seen Oprah Dimon says 92 Newport's

643
01:09:16,395 --> 01:09:21,699
probably got 10,000 work hard to Newport. Now that had to new tunnel.

644
01:09:21,699 --> 01:09:25,903
And my question is area is very congested. How's that going to affect traffic?

645
01:09:25,903 --> 01:09:31,809
When the come true, like you said to go 60, 70 miles an hour. I live on DORVAL court

646
01:09:31,809 --> 01:09:37,515
the ago down from my street about 45 50 miles an hour. And because he used to be a

647
01:09:37,515 --> 01:09:41,752
residential street is now a commercial street because of all the apartment complex

648
01:09:41,752 --> 01:09:49,930
coming down our street. So I was done runs on time, clarified the new Porter so

649
01:09:49,930 --> 01:09:52,496
you can turn left on new party to the complex that with what the plant that that's what they

650
01:09:52,496 --> 01:10:00,237
want to do. Is that correct? That's well, I'm not sure understand your question, but

651
01:10:00,237 --> 01:10:05,242
it's certainly going to see on going west on Newport. And sergeant. We generally

652
01:10:05,242 --> 01:10:11,716
don't take questions from from the public. But if you if you just ask your question, one of

653
01:10:11,716 --> 01:10:18,856
us may in turn, you want to ask staff for their village of used to because it's a nice

654
01:10:18,856 --> 01:10:22,660
climb. If you build more, they're talking about putting the road. It's a nice little

655
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:27,732
climb up to Newport. here's another concerned that one of the gentleman who has

656
01:10:27,732 --> 01:10:33,637
behind a brick wall where they're going to put the duplexes. He's he's lost.

657
01:10:33,637 --> 01:10:38,542
The case does speak to skews me to seek lining. It's to Kane and you just wonder gifts

658
01:10:38,542 --> 01:10:42,780
they're going to worry about the wall when they start digging the trenches and all

659
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:47,840
that stuff for the pipes. And another one of which is crazy. It's not a question is

660
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,956
the police report? Ever since they put this apartment in when neighbors had tied with 6

661
01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:57,595
police officers at his house. And he's complained about the noise and disturbance. He even

662
01:10:57,595 --> 01:10:59,965
had a neighbor come by the other day and asked for water because the kid got pepper

663
01:10:59,965 --> 01:11:09,565
sprayed and the apartments. So it's the concern about to put in the public will fare.

664
01:11:10,740 --> 01:11:15,279
Because and fun. 25 26 is a been a lot of police reports go into those apartments.

665
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:21,218
And the question is why do they want to put 4 stories? It's going to ruin our view and

666
01:11:21,218 --> 01:11:27,910
a lot of people are concerned that our property value to done on the homes because they are

667
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:32,263
view of the mountains and vegetation and Mother Nature is going to be gone. To compensate

668
01:11:32,263 --> 01:11:40,630
for that. And that's just about it. I think I'm just kind of

669
01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:43,908
disappointed. And I would like to think that Menifee in the city council there was a time

670
01:11:43,908 --> 01:11:53,508
is up so thank you. Thank you. Carla followed by Irene. I'm so sorry. I cannot

671
01:11:55,588 --> 01:12:00,492
pronounce less safe. Good evening. Thank you for giving us teppert anything due

672
01:12:00,492 --> 01:12:06,650
to tap. My name is got a lot more to get in my house. It's yes. And how was wrote

673
01:12:06,650 --> 01:12:14,340
and actually, as I'm looking at the map, the Nets mention my will. My backyard would have to

674
01:12:14,340 --> 01:12:20,513
pull that. Get to see. It's going to go out on Thursday. Parks for the docks. I don't

675
01:12:20,513 --> 01:12:27,120
have any good Ine. That's Dan, OK, this project send a prop plane. We not offend beautiful

676
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:35,928
beach are in power point, but I-70 it evening there for the pass 10 years. The beginning of

677
01:12:35,928 --> 01:12:43,128
this contruction. What horrible leaving to 365 days. 24 hours is there. That construction

678
01:12:44,103 --> 01:12:52,111
was horrible and a lot. Then the high was Roe was not approve to be enter because

679
01:12:52,111 --> 01:12:56,916
the first week of that building, what the fire next to the will of my house.

680
01:12:56,916 --> 01:13:04,423
And who are able to put the fire Tao. My adult kits. Thank God that I have that

681
01:13:04,423 --> 01:13:12,365
because of the fire department was unable to make him quick bit. So I'm glad that is not

682
01:13:12,365 --> 01:13:18,638
that now the nightmare as of right now with this first Eunice of the traffic as a

683
01:13:18,638 --> 01:13:25,278
brand right now. I don't understand why that then Inc the park in the streets.

684
01:13:25,278 --> 01:13:31,417
We're not able to look of vehicles when we want to turn we're at and going to meal

685
01:13:31,417 --> 01:13:38,725
pork. We are not able to see it if Bishop in the weekends and it's a rainy she'd a single

686
01:13:38,725 --> 01:13:45,325
it is horrible. Another thing is. Building that way. Then the

687
01:13:48,935 --> 01:13:55,375
project star, we have to get it new, a C because of the aisle that all that the fumes

688
01:13:55,375 --> 01:14:00,947
and everything was in the humble properly. We have too many times to complain and ask

689
01:14:00,947 --> 01:14:05,840
more water after the dirt. We are not against that buildings but more water

690
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:11,858
because all of this vast come into our home. Our pool got dominant. My AC got that.

691
01:14:11,858 --> 01:14:18,765
Who's going to pay us back? And I have to prove all of that. And guests eat this

692
01:14:18,765 --> 01:14:26,105
protest coming. I hope then this is not a proof or fife. I move from your CD with my

693
01:14:26,105 --> 01:14:31,944
House west with one building that then Florida in another building. And I moved here at

694
01:14:31,944 --> 01:14:38,618
them in a few area. When I thought I'm going to happen, a beautiful area. But now that

695
01:14:38,618 --> 01:14:44,670
I see. It's up to the street again. And that's a senior and a tire. The county employee.

696
01:14:44,670 --> 01:14:54,670
And it could mean the Senate. That's not going to happen. So I hope did. It is not.

697
01:14:54,813 --> 01:15:00,786
I mean, it get more to fight this and the way that doesn't affect asked that

698
01:15:00,786 --> 01:15:04,156
residents that that previous resident has misrepresented that where the time is up.

699
01:15:04,156 --> 01:15:10,756
Thank you very much. Thank you. Irene followed by Patrick Murphy.

700
01:15:13,898 --> 01:15:17,268
Good evening, everyone. Thank you for your time. My name is Irene. Younger Vick. I also

701
01:15:17,268 --> 01:15:23,641
I'm a resident on Hearts Brook Road. I echo the sentiments of

702
01:15:23,641 --> 01:15:27,178
previous resident currently We do live in the same household. So wouldn't have 3 minutes is

703
01:15:27,178 --> 01:15:32,150
not long enough. So that's why I'm here too. We've had lots of issues. It's been nothing

704
01:15:32,150 --> 01:15:37,789
short of a nightmare since Boulder Boulders, one has started and unfortunately, we

705
01:15:37,789 --> 01:15:43,595
weren't able to provide comments at that time. We were in communications with the

706
01:15:43,595 --> 01:15:49,234
project, you know, PR person went up to the site phone number work constantly

707
01:15:49,234 --> 01:15:57,340
in communication because of the dust. And unfortunately, since the boulders, one project

708
01:15:57,609 --> 01:16:04,182
has started, our backyard area has not been habitable. In addition to having replaced

709
01:16:04,182 --> 01:16:11,690
having to replace our AC unit, we our pool. Unfortunately, I know first what problem but has

710
01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:16,594
been on some level. in addition to that project and just all of the movement around

711
01:16:16,594 --> 01:16:21,433
there has been even though we were sure there are water tankers there that are just

712
01:16:21,433 --> 01:16:29,274
making sure that the ground continues to stay wet. That did not happen. There's not a day

713
01:16:29,274 --> 01:16:33,445
that goes by that the dust is accumulating outside in our backyard and within our home.

714
01:16:33,445 --> 01:16:41,853
So that's an issue. Second, another issue is the parking on the and exiting door

715
01:16:41,853 --> 01:16:50,950
about court making a left onto Berea. There's so many parked cars there is. It's completely

716
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:57,335
packed and there's and I'm not sure what what you have, what the if there has to be a

717
01:16:57,335 --> 01:17:00,500
sidewalk painted red. But unfortunately, everybody is packed right there and it's

718
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:04,275
hard to see. And especially during the boulders, one construction, a lot of the

719
01:17:04,275 --> 01:17:11,383
construction workers did not really care for the traffic signs for the traffic for the

720
01:17:11,383 --> 01:17:19,858
stop signs. And I almost I had 3 near misses because we have construction workers that

721
01:17:19,858 --> 01:17:23,495
we're just running the a C stop signs because it was at like 6, 6.30, the morning. I live in

722
01:17:23,495 --> 01:17:27,165
Riverside. So thankfully she's my work in Riverside. So thankfully a lot of the traffic

723
01:17:27,165 --> 01:17:33,173
I miss. But at the Times that I do have to leave a little bit later, the traffic to go right

724
01:17:33,173 --> 01:17:39,246
on to pour out of Normandy is pretty heavy. So I'm glad that those are going to be

725
01:17:39,246 --> 01:17:44,318
mitigated. But then on and also the driveway on Hershberger Road. But then going into

726
01:17:44,318 --> 01:17:47,955
boulders to I don't know where these residents are currently parking or where they're going

727
01:17:47,955 --> 01:17:50,792
to park because it's going to get worse. And it's probably going to continue on to do

728
01:17:50,792 --> 01:17:57,297
about quarter and affect all of those residents. Residents there and I have to drive on to

729
01:17:57,297 --> 01:18:02,503
talk about court entre to exit onto Newport Road. So the traffic is just going crease.

730
01:18:02,503 --> 01:18:10,377
I hope that the communication between the developer and the residents continues to it

731
01:18:10,377 --> 01:18:14,848
continues to improve because there was a big lack of communication. And there was a

732
01:18:14,848 --> 01:18:20,555
lot of arguing back and forth to try and get the issues paid for. That we had gone through

733
01:18:20,555 --> 01:18:28,955
savings. Time is up. Thank you. Thank you. Mayor Fee followed by Holly brokenness.

734
01:18:30,264 --> 01:18:37,464
Good evening. I'm Patrick Murphy. High been a resident Amanda Feet since 2018.

735
01:18:37,671 --> 01:18:44,511
My wife and I and our 2 dogs frequently use Spirit Park. I'm opposed to this project.

736
01:18:44,511 --> 01:18:52,311
For 2 reasons. First of all. If you go West Harbor area on Normandy.

737
01:18:55,522 --> 01:19:01,661
That goes to an area with hundreds of Audi Murphy homes. The only other street that

738
01:19:01,661 --> 01:19:10,237
those people can get out to Newport on. Is gets road. That's the only 2 ways those

739
01:19:10,237 --> 01:19:16,878
hundreds of homes can get to Newport. The traffic coming down or

740
01:19:16,878 --> 01:19:25,278
Monday at rush hour. And then the evening. Backs up almost to Salt Creek.

741
01:19:27,187 --> 01:19:35,129
That rat scares me. The traffic on Newport wanting to turn right on to Berea.

742
01:19:35,129 --> 01:19:40,367
Backs up on the new port at times for that intersection of Berea and Norman Tree.

743
01:19:40,367 --> 01:19:45,767
The impact of that intersection. Literally with this project

744
01:19:46,940 --> 01:19:53,881
be doubled. The density is too high. I don't know anywhere else in

745
01:19:53,881 --> 01:20:00,954
Menefee where they have such a density of of of homes and cars. The 2 ladies before May's

746
01:20:00,954 --> 01:20:05,993
spoke about the parking on Berea that narrows bread down very significantly because the

747
01:20:05,993 --> 01:20:13,634
cars are thick on both sides. The second reason I'm opposed to this project.

748
01:20:13,634 --> 01:20:23,634
Is that access across the park. They talked limiting of the park area. The number they gave

749
01:20:25,192 --> 01:20:30,831
didn't include that. The celebration lane that came up with your questions. That's

750
01:20:30,831 --> 01:20:37,371
going to cut into the park even more. The 2 dog parks. They're going

751
01:20:37,371 --> 01:20:46,460
to be too small to be useful. There's a nice dog park over on Marietta.

752
01:20:46,460 --> 01:20:54,187
If the city wants to do another dog park. The park over on Bradley.

753
01:20:54,187 --> 01:21:00,260
It's got a lot of area that can be used because it's inundated with gopher holes.

754
01:21:00,260 --> 01:21:06,626
Thank you for your time. Thank you. Hawley Rocha's followed by

755
01:21:08,401 --> 01:21:14,874
David Faust. I am wholly. So the reason you're hearing from so many

756
01:21:14,874 --> 01:21:21,848
residents is because we don't have an H.O.A. we love not having an H.O.A., but also it

757
01:21:21,848 --> 01:21:29,155
means that we don't have a specific spokesperson. I've been a resident there

758
01:21:29,155 --> 01:21:36,563
since 2013. We're the people who pay taxes and we're now we're seeing a bunch of renters

759
01:21:36,563 --> 01:21:38,965
can in and destroy our roads. Take over all these parking spots. I don't feel safe

760
01:21:38,965 --> 01:21:44,471
walking at night anymore because of all the police activity. I take my dog for

761
01:21:44,471 --> 01:21:51,945
a walk. She has to be walked. She is high energy dog and I can't do it anymore. So my

762
01:21:51,945 --> 01:21:56,516
husband has to do it because she needs to go to 3 to 4 miles every night. And I want to be

763
01:21:56,516 --> 01:22:03,323
more. It's too hot to do it during the day. It's small kids. And I won't let them ride

764
01:22:03,323 --> 01:22:08,728
their bikes around the block anymore because the traffic now is too high and Orville.

765
01:22:08,728 --> 01:22:13,900
So if we add more cars because we're adding more residents and it's only going to get

766
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:21,140
worse because they do cut through from Marietta to go through Doraville. I'm a

767
01:22:21,140 --> 01:22:26,680
resident on gifts for and so I'm street removed. But I still I can't let them go

768
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:36,680
up any further because there's a car. Every time. So I took notes for the dog park as well.

769
01:22:36,823 --> 01:22:43,797
The place where you put it, there's no parking for that. So you'd have to go. Crossover

770
01:22:43,797 --> 01:22:47,400
somewhere. So that doesn't make sense. Also have the infrastructure that you guys

771
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:52,572
are proposing. I mean, the grocery store is. Crazy. Can't go past 4 o'clock

772
01:22:52,572 --> 01:23:00,347
because now you have there's a dunce from the new construction. You're speaking

773
01:23:00,347 --> 01:23:02,716
about. You have the construction that's going on everywhere. And then you now

774
01:23:02,716 --> 01:23:08,880
have these residents and now you want to add 300 more residents because you have to

775
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,827
think it's not just the departments that one person per apartment. It's going to

776
01:23:13,827 --> 01:23:19,302
be couples. It's going to be roommate. It's going to be, however, many other people.

777
01:23:19,302 --> 01:23:25,441
So it's not one person you're adding. It's not a single unit that you're adding. You're

778
01:23:25,441 --> 01:23:31,114
adding. 600 more people. Because whos just to people sometimes stop. Not the way

779
01:23:31,114 --> 01:23:37,587
the prices are the states like, let's be honest about how people can afford. Thanks so.

780
01:23:37,587 --> 01:23:43,326
Those are the things that I think about when I'm looking at it and I'm thinking about my

781
01:23:43,326 --> 01:23:47,797
kids and raising my kids in this area. I'm looking at the school districts. I'm looking

782
01:23:47,797 --> 01:23:53,170
at, OK, great. The school's know what's happening. But our is 3 years going to be

783
01:23:53,170 --> 01:23:58,570
enough to provide infrastructure. Kids are already at 32 to 36

784
01:23:59,809 --> 01:24:05,782
kids, a class. So re really going to add more to that. So those are the things that I

785
01:24:05,782 --> 01:24:09,819
concerned about. So please don't add more to it. And also spirit Parks best. So why are

786
01:24:09,819 --> 01:24:17,619
we taking more away from it? Thank you. David 1000 followed by. She can

787
01:24:20,196 --> 01:24:27,396
us are. Good evening. Commissioners David Faust, chair of them in a

788
01:24:31,807 --> 01:24:37,807
few parks, Recreation Trails Commission. As you know, that your

789
01:24:38,448 --> 01:24:44,387
commission deferred this project to hear from the Parks Commission first, which we met

790
01:24:44,387 --> 01:24:49,187
this last Thursday. Last week. really shocked at

791
01:24:54,931 --> 01:24:59,268
the proposal, not not so much the apartment complex because I think the the city needs more

792
01:24:59,268 --> 01:25:04,507
affordable housing for a lot. A lot of young families. Singles and couples. But the

793
01:25:04,507 --> 01:25:10,780
fact that the proposal to take the park take and put a road through Spirit Park is

794
01:25:10,780 --> 01:25:19,956
unprecedented. Her in the city that section of of Spare Park is a passive park. It's it's a

795
01:25:19,956 --> 01:25:24,327
very popular place to to walk. There's a beautiful walking path through there on the

796
01:25:24,327 --> 01:25:32,502
boulders and the the pine trees. I was just there on Monday with my grandson.

797
01:25:32,502 --> 01:25:36,405
And I just we we were unanimous in our in our decision first not to to prove a quid. The

798
01:25:36,405 --> 01:25:43,680
assessment for the project at this time because what? And so we kind of hit the ball back to

799
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:50,860
the planning Commission on this project. And as well as we wanted to hear more from the

800
01:25:50,860 --> 01:25:57,286
public and and even suggested to some type of public public hearing

801
01:26:00,396 --> 01:26:04,200
specifically regarding the the the effect it'll have on on on Spirit part, putting a road

802
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:10,920
through Spirit Park by setting that one acre section of the park concerned for the safety

803
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:19,362
of our residents on the bike trails on The Walking path up on the sidewalk. With that

804
01:26:19,362 --> 01:26:23,265
right turn in for from westbound. Only right. Turn out to going westbound.

805
01:26:23,265 --> 01:26:31,665
I'm thankful that there was no signal propose there, but to it's just not.

806
01:26:32,141 --> 01:26:36,679
It's not a great plan. I'm not opposed to the project itself, but the access to this project

807
01:26:36,679 --> 01:26:44,530
has severe restrictions. I know the neighbors don't want to access to harsh. Harsh Berg.

808
01:26:44,530 --> 01:26:49,225
Is it to the streets and there's a limited access to the on the connector to

809
01:26:49,225 --> 01:26:57,900
the existing, even with the contractor proposing to give us the dog parks, which frankly

810
01:26:57,900 --> 01:27:06,208
are undersized for the for the both small and large stocks and that that's one acre

811
01:27:06,208 --> 01:27:08,430
sections already by second through the director of the storm drain. And there's a

812
01:27:08,430 --> 01:27:12,948
little bridge on the Walking path. It sets at lower grade level.

813
01:27:12,948 --> 01:27:19,789
The Newport. I just think that this proposal to put up a 2 by SEC, the park and put a road

814
01:27:19,789 --> 01:27:23,793
through the park is is is conceived and that is that's just what I wanted to share

815
01:27:23,793 --> 01:27:30,393
with you today. Thank you. Thank you. She can us are.

816
01:27:43,612 --> 01:27:49,385
Hello. I'm in a chic and thus are I am a former employee of the month. The school district.

817
01:27:49,385 --> 01:27:55,458
I now work for the state of California and I work from home. So I live on the record

818
01:27:55,458 --> 01:28:01,630
in the apartments directly affect me as far as working from home, I hear constant

819
01:28:01,630 --> 01:28:09,805
screaming domestic violence issues and that in turn affects my mental health as well as my

820
01:28:09,805 --> 01:28:15,978
and within our property. And we've had occupants come to our door to ask for

821
01:28:15,978 --> 01:28:20,582
surveillance. Do the fight in front of our property because birria is already filled.

822
01:28:20,582 --> 01:28:25,721
They park on our street corridor full court. So people have parked their they left

823
01:28:25,721 --> 01:28:35,164
chest bear. There's increased drug use which is not proper for kids because there's a day

824
01:28:35,164 --> 01:28:39,135
care for one. There's a park. There's 2 we would eventually that's less than a mile and

825
01:28:39,135 --> 01:28:46,935
half away. So it's like not beneficial. They have also reached out to

826
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:49,879
our other neighbors in regards to camera footage and we should not be going to be put in the

827
01:28:49,879 --> 01:28:55,279
position of becoming the security system for new development.

828
01:28:55,951 --> 01:28:59,658
If this does get approved, I have also requesting from the city of residential parking

829
01:28:59,658 --> 01:29:06,980
permit parking permit program for surrounding homeowners. The additional residents of

830
01:29:06,980 --> 01:29:09,769
vehicles from this development recreate will create additional demand for street parking and

831
01:29:09,769 --> 01:29:16,141
existing homeowners should not lose access to the parking that we rely on.

832
01:29:16,141 --> 01:29:20,313
Another major concern is privacy. We were promised privacy. But in as you

833
01:29:20,313 --> 01:29:28,113
mentioned before, they did not. Provide any privacy at all. Therein properly spaced.

834
01:29:29,822 --> 01:29:34,326
So. They don't. I don't. They providing coverage to it from the

835
01:29:34,326 --> 01:29:40,326
balconies to into our backyards. The leaves dewfall year-round. So.

836
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:48,774
Again, do not provide part privacy. As far as the part. I do feel

837
01:29:48,774 --> 01:29:54,774
like that's essential to our children here in Menifee because

838
01:29:54,913 --> 01:29:56,782
there is not much for the children who are already complaining about the e-bikes

839
01:29:56,782 --> 01:30:02,888
are complaining planning about this. Every time I go by that park, the park is full. It's

840
01:30:02,888 --> 01:30:07,826
very essential. Says committee. As far as summer parks and Recs. They're always there and

841
01:30:07,826 --> 01:30:11,564
that pours into the chilling. It's not much to do. We don't have will be the 8 ERs. We

842
01:30:11,564 --> 01:30:18,737
don't have things for them to do. We do have a law so I think that's the last thing actually

843
01:30:18,737 --> 01:30:24,137
done. Thank you. There are no more public comments.

844
01:30:26,145 --> 01:30:29,481
Okay. Is there anyone else any? And it's that would like to speak on this item. Because I'm

845
01:30:29,481 --> 01:30:34,820
going to close the public public hearing here in a second.

846
01:30:34,820 --> 01:30:39,825
Please come up and then afterwards, would you fill out a speaker slip in the back

847
01:30:39,825 --> 01:30:45,764
after to and just state your nephew? I'm Corey Rochus. I live on get 4 in court as

848
01:30:45,764 --> 01:30:52,504
well and just wanted to state that the sediment that everyone spoke about today

849
01:30:52,504 --> 01:30:56,809
is truthful. There's constant crime going on in the apartment complexes that didn't exist.

850
01:30:56,809 --> 01:31:03,315
I've part of Menifee since 2013 as well and moved here from

851
01:31:03,315 --> 01:31:09,455
Riverside County. And the crime is has gone up since those departments have

852
01:31:09,455 --> 01:31:15,928
gone. And I take my dog for walks consistently down dorval court cars are flying down that

853
01:31:15,928 --> 01:31:19,365
street. I know. See squad cars flying down the street to go to the apartment complexes

854
01:31:19,365 --> 01:31:25,965
consistently the parking situation is atrocious. It's starting to overflow onto

855
01:31:26,805 --> 01:31:30,709
Dorval it's not safe for any kids riding bikes up and down the

856
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:36,480
street anymore like it used to be. Where is just regular residential? Very low volume of

857
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:39,718
traffic. Now it's high volume of traffic with everyone coming through and it's only going to

858
01:31:39,718 --> 01:31:48,118
get worse with approval of this. This complex. I would propose that you build

859
01:31:48,226 --> 01:31:54,213
on spirit part, give more land to the kids, give more land too. The residents give more

860
01:31:54,213 --> 01:31:58,818
land to beautiful landscapes instead of just high-rise buildings. That's what I would

861
01:31:58,818 --> 01:32:03,356
love to see for my community. If you go over to the sports park, I was at the sports Park

862
01:32:03,356 --> 01:32:09,128
Lake Elsinore Sports Park last night. It was completely packed full of kids packed proxies

863
01:32:09,128 --> 01:32:12,970
like football practicing soccer. We literally had to park on the street because

864
01:32:12,970 --> 01:32:17,360
there's no more parking field in the park like we need more parks and to take away parks

865
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:23,509
and a takeaway, recreational activities for high rises that. Just are going to impact the

866
01:32:23,509 --> 01:32:29,148
traffic in our community impact the crime statistics in our community

867
01:32:29,148 --> 01:32:33,452
and just take away from what our community needs and take away from Parks and rec.

868
01:32:33,452 --> 01:32:40,590
I don't think is there a correct answer here? I would like to see a more

869
01:32:40,590 --> 01:32:44,300
space for for a communal. You sound like to see more space for children. I would

870
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:49,201
like to see more space for schools like to see more space for.

871
01:32:49,201 --> 01:32:54,774
Just having open space in looking at the beauty of nature and enjoying time outdoors.

872
01:32:54,774 --> 01:33:00,479
By adding high rises. It takes that away from us. It just over populates our small community

873
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:06,118
that we have off adorable. And I forgive floored. it's just really crowding us.

874
01:33:06,118 --> 01:33:11,190
And it's taking away from our property values. And its all of us here are living in that same

875
01:33:11,190 --> 01:33:17,730
complex where just under duress of the whole time with all this new construction going on.

876
01:33:17,730 --> 01:33:27,730
And it's it's not fun. So seeing no one else. I'm going to close the did you want to

877
01:33:27,740 --> 01:33:31,944
say something, sir? Okay. I'll ask you to do the same thing after year.

878
01:33:31,944 --> 01:33:35,748
Complete speaking at the podium. And sir, could you remember to fill out a speaker

879
01:33:35,748 --> 01:33:43,548
slip? I'm doing my name is Brandon. I feel that these should not

880
01:33:44,323 --> 01:33:50,763
be built a few like voting once in the urban do his will because

881
01:33:50,763 --> 01:33:56,469
as homeowners, we pay a lot of money and I feel like we're living in a fishbowl.

882
01:33:56,469 --> 01:34:01,273
Those 3 story buildings, people are on the top that this is looking down on us like this.

883
01:34:01,273 --> 01:34:10,616
Mike. The football game or sent The guy that came to our house quit asking for the videos.

884
01:34:10,616 --> 01:34:15,621
He saying that he got in a fight with his daddy Jessa for video from our cameras that we

885
01:34:15,621 --> 01:34:19,625
see anything. He told me that he's speaking to our dogs every morning. He's on the 3rd floor

886
01:34:19,625 --> 01:34:26,165
like. We hope you have a whole new you want privacy. That's the

887
01:34:26,165 --> 01:34:34,600
reason you move into. We don't have that. We're finding drugs industry just the other day.

888
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,244
A car parked in front of our House dumped popcorn right there from their house. Did

889
01:34:38,244 --> 01:34:44,687
not clean it. And that's not the first time that happened. I walk around the neighborhood

890
01:34:44,687 --> 01:34:49,825
every day. I'm seeing Louis bike gangs building up in the apartment. There's no security

891
01:34:49,825 --> 01:34:58,334
in there and that this happened. I'm starting to see tagging on walks. So this extra

892
01:34:58,334 --> 01:35:04,140
doing is going to bring games to these community. I come from LA. I've seen

893
01:35:04,140 --> 01:35:08,410
kids mountain about the park's doing things. They're not supposed to do

894
01:35:08,410 --> 01:35:13,350
there's no police action over there. Nobody's patrolling the streets for parking people,

895
01:35:13,350 --> 01:35:22,240
parking on the corner. Just today we were walking and the there's a group of kids in the

896
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,126
car smoking marijuana sitting around the corner, looking like they're up

897
01:35:24,126 --> 01:35:31,926
to no good. That's not the first time I seen that now. Music.

898
01:35:32,668 --> 01:35:42,668
Fights waking up to hearing to beware the Q you 06:07AM, in the morning. And the weekends

899
01:35:44,380 --> 01:35:52,180
or atrocious, like everybody There's nowhere to park people are arguing with homeowners.

900
01:35:52,988 --> 01:35:58,627
You know, you're parking in front of their house being disrespectful to music. The

901
01:35:58,627 --> 01:36:04,867
alcohol, your drugs. And, you know, it's just a constant battle and I feel like

902
01:36:04,867 --> 01:36:11,140
I'm this project should not go through and for the safety of the kids for the safety of

903
01:36:11,140 --> 01:36:17,546
homeowners, for this community. If you want to keep it how it is tell you that this does not

904
01:36:17,546 --> 01:36:24,520
need that because this is going to bring the negativity and more problems. So thank you.

905
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:32,320
Thank you. I don't think there's anyone else. going to close the public

906
01:36:32,528 --> 01:36:38,528
hearing, it's 7.34 Does my colleagues have any further discussions? Questions,

907
01:36:41,437 --> 01:36:47,643
comments? I know. I do assume you will do that 15. I'm going to defer to Tammy first and

908
01:36:47,643 --> 01:36:57,643
then I'll come back to you, OK? And with regard to heard kid the city or the applicant

909
01:36:58,187 --> 01:37:05,393
address. How? And they planned to in a guy us. And prevent damage to

910
01:37:05,393 --> 01:37:13,193
surrounding neighborhood and surrounding homes. To me, can you be a little bit

911
01:37:16,305 --> 01:37:23,445
more specific use of? Which which concern us seeing safety? It would be about

912
01:37:23,445 --> 01:37:30,953
mitigation of us. Destin damage to Okay. Now I know why the kind of person. He was handing

913
01:37:30,953 --> 01:37:40,553
the speaker, Kurt he was stunned. Who in staff's can answer them. It all There are

914
01:37:42,179 --> 01:37:47,651
specific conditions of approval that requires the applicant to comply with the no 8 Q and

915
01:37:47,651 --> 01:37:51,555
the requirements and Dustin during construction hours of operation

916
01:37:51,555 --> 01:37:58,155
hours of construction as well. So there are very specific requirements.

917
01:37:58,796 --> 01:38:03,834
Obviously, you know, the applicant here, obviously and maybe they can elaborate in

918
01:38:03,834 --> 01:38:08,205
terms of what measures into Quinn boulders. One was constructed in and, you know,

919
01:38:08,205 --> 01:38:14,805
there's any room for improvements in terms of making sure the

920
01:38:14,845 --> 01:38:21,445
impacts that are being generator are minimized to the extent possible.

921
01:38:23,554 --> 01:38:30,754
Might want to stand up to. You're gonna have a few questions.

922
01:38:32,696 --> 01:38:37,434
Kaye on and and U.S. control. We can do a better job of controlling to us. The project

923
01:38:37,434 --> 01:38:41,605
was completed to approximately year ago. So when a comment said that,

924
01:38:41,605 --> 01:38:50,514
you know, my pulls dirtier. You know, the Destin a that the we did have a dozen open there

925
01:38:50,514 --> 01:38:58,122
and we did have water control. But there was just a time soon. We also cleaned quite a few

926
01:38:58,122 --> 01:39:04,394
pools and clean the. Solar panels for folks. And we did have dust and that's

927
01:39:04,394 --> 01:39:10,668
something that we'll we'll do. The best job we possibly can to mitigate that. And then the

928
01:39:10,668 --> 01:39:18,875
deaths, some comments that were made, if I can, there is no graffiti and buildings. We have

929
01:39:18,875 --> 01:39:24,248
the police control funding police. We have our own security system.

930
01:39:24,248 --> 01:39:28,686
There are evil ickes from our project. It's one of our biggest concerns they come in

931
01:39:28,686 --> 01:39:34,558
in groups of 5, 6, 7, and they come in and they go through our landscaping. It. They just kind

932
01:39:34,558 --> 01:39:40,831
of come through and take over the so we have big concerned about that will be talked to

933
01:39:40,831 --> 01:39:45,103
the city about and also in the city is a given us access to a drone and they followed them

934
01:39:45,103 --> 01:39:49,106
home with that with some of their families and some of that, let them know that there

935
01:39:49,106 --> 01:39:56,180
kids are being destructive on on the property. So you have great on the security

936
01:39:56,180 --> 01:40:01,352
said their security. Do you have just cameras should you haven't actually have on-site

937
01:40:01,352 --> 01:40:09,152
security. We have 12 hours a day. We have full-time security staff staff. Yeah.

938
01:40:11,495 --> 01:40:18,369
What know these are security folks is we have a private company called and asked for

939
01:40:18,369 --> 01:40:25,420
Tuesday and for and then we have to patrol officers that are in uniform and we pay for.

940
01:40:25,420 --> 01:40:31,642
And they're they're from what? Like 95 or something where the dollars.

941
01:40:32,186 --> 01:40:37,425
06:00PM and 9 to 7 in the morning. And during the day we have

942
01:40:37,425 --> 01:40:45,225
staff there, but they're not law enforcement. You know what? So just to

943
01:40:48,436 --> 01:40:51,372
follow up and maybe more directed to staff. I mean, I I would be interested to know

944
01:40:51,372 --> 01:40:57,579
that I've heard several speakers to speak about all college of criminal

945
01:40:57,579 --> 01:41:03,579
activity involving drug dealing. Do you have information on on?

946
01:41:07,155 --> 01:41:15,555
Call volume for that particular area? That would. You know, kind of bear that

947
01:41:15,563 --> 01:41:19,434
out or what information I do. I know we have a police back. I don't want to put him on the

948
01:41:19,434 --> 01:41:26,641
spot for that cause. That's not fair. He's not ready for But but I'm interested. I'm

949
01:41:26,641 --> 01:41:33,241
interested in that. Unfortunately, we don't have data today to share

950
01:41:34,549 --> 01:41:40,121
with you. It is from my department. We haven't been aware over any specific

951
01:41:40,121 --> 01:41:46,894
concerns in terms of additional crime? I think we would have asked for that information from

952
01:41:46,894 --> 01:41:54,202
PD so we could provide that data to the commission. But we don't have

953
01:41:54,202 --> 01:41:59,273
that information. Obviously the the process, today's for the commission to make a

954
01:41:59,273 --> 01:42:04,445
recommendation to city Council. So what I suggest is that we obtain that data from

955
01:42:04,445 --> 01:42:10,618
the pleas and permitting percent that information as well too. City Council for

956
01:42:10,618 --> 01:42:18,418
further consideration. Okay. All this. The overarching thing for me is we were.

957
01:42:22,397 --> 01:42:29,137
High density. It got changed. The reason was high-density because it was the DC that's

958
01:42:29,137 --> 01:42:34,475
the reason this. Because identity works. If you have. Commercial, that's a bold us

959
01:42:34,475 --> 01:42:42,216
one months. It seems to be okay. So we lowered it to 1, 1, to 5, right? Was it one to

960
01:42:42,216 --> 01:42:48,556
558-5858. And then now we're asking, go back to the higher density

961
01:42:48,556 --> 01:42:53,280
Nani, DC I whenever I see anyone going to high asking for Dancy, I want to say we're

962
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:57,264
number one. How are you going to mitigate the effects of that? And number 2, how does it

963
01:42:57,264 --> 01:43:03,304
benefit the city obviously benefits the property owner which I'm for like 8 more

964
01:43:03,304 --> 01:43:11,912
affordable housing, more units. That site is great. But the downside, what does it do

965
01:43:11,912 --> 01:43:19,620
city and what is that? What's the benefit? So that's the overarching I have here.

966
01:43:19,620 --> 01:43:27,309
So number one is. To just are some easy questions. Why are they parking

967
01:43:27,309 --> 01:43:31,847
on Duval in Berea? If there was sufficient parking in the parking study for

968
01:43:31,847 --> 01:43:39,647
Boulder's one. So they do meet the need for Boulder's one, the code

969
01:43:42,391 --> 01:43:47,229
requirements for parking glitch. We did reach out to the applicant and and

970
01:43:47,229 --> 01:43:53,402
kind of pose that question a few months back. What we understand is there are some

971
01:43:53,402 --> 01:43:59,776
units that are just closer. So just proximity to the number. And so they will park

972
01:43:59,776 --> 01:44:06,849
and then they have a shorter trip to they can and go to their apartment and so that's

973
01:44:06,849 --> 01:44:12,955
that's one of the primary reasons. Okay. So it's there's there's

974
01:44:12,955 --> 01:44:19,195
what I understand, maybe them kicker correctly on this. But they they do have

975
01:44:19,195 --> 01:44:24,133
their allocated a certain space, but believe me, they don't want to pay for the

976
01:44:24,133 --> 01:44:30,873
additional parking space. It's 4 overs all mean person. Get to get that they get a

977
01:44:30,873 --> 01:44:39,273
parking spot with their units on the townhouses, but they have a second car.

978
01:44:39,982 --> 01:44:45,921
So. And ask a series of questions. I didn't mean to interrupt

979
01:44:45,921 --> 01:44:53,429
them. Sorry, not no prom. that's fine. It sounds like there's an issue

980
01:44:53,429 --> 01:44:59,902
that with even though it's legal to park in Berea, it sounds like there's an issue

981
01:44:59,902 --> 01:45:05,508
with parking on Berea for all residents of the north coming down various to Normandy into

982
01:45:05,508 --> 01:45:10,913
the 5th to Newport. There's it's getting packed as being dangerous for kids.

983
01:45:10,913 --> 01:45:19,313
Would there be any benefit to putting no Berea along the frontage of this?

984
01:45:21,900 --> 01:45:25,861
With the vote of ozone that no parking sign and some red curves for help with the fees

985
01:45:25,861 --> 01:45:33,680
up to the people coming in and out and breathe. Now I'm not a parking engineer. I just

986
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,600
sometimes there's the unintended consequences of doing these things. But I just

987
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:42,606
want to throw it out there that. One resident brought up.

988
01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:47,750
What are your thoughts on? Permitted parking like in Duval in that area? Have you ever use

989
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:54,724
that mechanism? What I guess my question is how do you stop overflow parking from the

990
01:45:54,724 --> 01:46:02,524
boulders? One from flowing into the single family residence to have any suggestions.

991
01:46:04,660 --> 01:46:08,700
Well, I think I think number one, obviously, as rain indicated, we think we think

992
01:46:08,700 --> 01:46:11,241
that the people that are probably some of the people that are parking is because of

993
01:46:11,241 --> 01:46:17,485
their the unit happens to be about to close against recounted. I think we need to

994
01:46:17,485 --> 01:46:24,492
work with the applicant see how they're managing the parking and how we can best

995
01:46:24,492 --> 01:46:28,562
take advantage of what we know for you. How it's being offered to the to the rest of

996
01:46:28,562 --> 01:46:34,562
it right? Obviously that they are parking requirements and in

997
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:42,677
that parking that require per code needs to be available to the residence. Obviously

998
01:46:42,677 --> 01:46:44,613
residents may have more than one card to cars to cars. And I think at that point

999
01:46:44,613 --> 01:46:52,887
there's that there's needs to be a, you know, some type of Lehman. Would we be?

1000
01:46:52,887 --> 01:46:57,124
Applicant and the Rays hitting terms as to how they're going to manage that right?

1001
01:46:57,124 --> 01:47:04,832
and I understand the wise. I appreciate that. Has. Is there any other

1002
01:47:04,832 --> 01:47:08,602
mechanisms besides? Relying on the property owner to manage the parking. Is there

1003
01:47:08,602 --> 01:47:16,402
any other mechanisms the city is used to control parking overflow into residential

1004
01:47:19,413 --> 01:47:24,919
areas? I don't recall if we've we've done any permits in the seeding terms for

1005
01:47:24,919 --> 01:47:29,323
residential neighborhoods. Taipei, seen that in other cities where

1006
01:47:29,323 --> 01:47:36,263
there's mean impacts either due to the proximity to a school, either adjacent to commercial

1007
01:47:36,263 --> 01:47:44,663
and there's overflow parking and there's been cases where there you see the parking

1008
01:47:46,730 --> 01:47:49,210
permit to program that can tip them into to assist with that. I'm not sure they can. We've

1009
01:47:49,210 --> 01:47:54,248
done that here in the city. I'm not saying that. That's the answer. But I'm just asking

1010
01:47:54,248 --> 01:47:58,319
if there's other mechanisms. So that's just stick that on the shelf right now will keep

1011
01:47:58,319 --> 01:48:06,828
that in your mind. Okay. A judge just to confirm you do have a on site to

1012
01:48:06,828 --> 01:48:12,800
security officers. First to honor. You have to security officers

1013
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,636
walking the fold and I'm asking is in Boulder, one because it will finally has different

1014
01:48:16,636 --> 01:48:26,636
wonder, too, that we pull from 6 o'clock at night till I think 7 in the morning. It's a great

1015
01:48:27,470 --> 01:48:30,517
have an office. We have an officer not to have one have one or 2. They split shifts.

1016
01:48:30,517 --> 01:48:37,758
And then during the day you just have the management. We have a team that we have

1017
01:48:37,758 --> 01:48:43,398
staff of 3. We have a and maintenance staff. And Porter and actually to

1018
01:48:43,398 --> 01:48:52,398
Porter's. And then we have. A security person. That's that's a female. She says she's

1019
01:48:53,407 --> 01:48:59,847
not work in security, but she's in charge of it, OK? And the then we have this sales folks.

1020
01:48:59,847 --> 01:49:04,647
Okay. Thank you for clarifying that next question.

1021
01:49:08,438 --> 01:49:12,509
Can we pull up the slide that showed their plan of the blue lines, the green lines, the

1022
01:49:12,509 --> 01:49:20,617
original, you know, access and then what we had to go to. That was on the applicants

1023
01:49:20,617 --> 01:49:26,617
presentation. It paid for 8 for Atkins. Commissioner comments be asked

1024
01:49:28,358 --> 01:49:36,158
What is the function of the security when there's a domestic disturbance the

1025
01:49:37,330 --> 01:49:40,404
I'm not an expert on it are we have patrol officers there that they carry a weapon.

1026
01:49:40,404 --> 01:49:46,142
We pay extra for that. They have to be trained. If there's they call the police department

1027
01:49:46,142 --> 01:49:52,142
immediately. But there are there are trained professional police officers.

1028
01:49:53,116 --> 01:49:55,752
Not know what the city, but they are certain charm, security arm security. And we

1029
01:49:55,752 --> 01:50:03,260
hope that we pay extra to have them more. And we did that because of the bike folks.

1030
01:50:03,260 --> 01:50:07,664
They came in and just to basically overpower you with 5, 6, kids age 12 to what have

1031
01:50:07,664 --> 01:50:11,340
you actually met with the school, the principal at the school because it was a pretty

1032
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:19,175
big issue that still is that they do wrong. Excuse me. I can tell you from personal

1033
01:50:19,175 --> 01:50:25,315
experience in dealing with armed security previous my life is it's very expensive. I would

1034
01:50:25,315 --> 01:50:30,286
imagine spirit we do with when they weren't on the shoes and the kids didn't

1035
01:50:30,286 --> 01:50:34,657
seem to respect him as my dad. And yeah, we have videos where they delayed their bikes down

1036
01:50:34,657 --> 01:50:42,650
around a patrol car and have a what are you calling in? You know, they talk to the

1037
01:50:42,650 --> 01:50:48,438
police officer. And so we upgraded to a higher security level which they don't

1038
01:50:48,438 --> 01:50:55,578
intimidate those that so my next question or proposal is. Part of me.

1039
01:50:55,578 --> 01:50:59,516
If we didn't have to cut through the park like see access off of Newport because

1040
01:50:59,516 --> 01:51:05,288
that. Pulse people out of the project and it doesn't let them go in.

1041
01:51:05,288 --> 01:51:11,394
The downside is it's cutting the park off and we heard from that and I'd rather not do

1042
01:51:11,394 --> 01:51:16,232
that. So my question is the blue line there that goes from the end of Normandy into the

1043
01:51:16,232 --> 01:51:23,273
put potential blue line into the new boulders to that's running through Indian

1044
01:51:23,273 --> 01:51:27,544
property. Karin de N I is it because they found cultural resources or just because the

1045
01:51:27,544 --> 01:51:32,916
tribe owns it. There are good because she clear on that just that we own the property.

1046
01:51:32,916 --> 01:51:36,720
Yeah. It is going to we've agreed with the tribes to make it a

1047
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:43,626
concerted conservation easement. Yeah, we will still own. And if I'm wrong, I'm

1048
01:51:43,626 --> 01:51:51,568
wrong and we will maintain it for fire for cleanliness for graffiti. We have to maintain

1049
01:51:51,568 --> 01:51:56,940
the area and that we are truly are the owners okay? Think that out. We asked to go through

1050
01:51:56,940 --> 01:52:00,952
there. Yeah, no, we were told no. We said matter of fact, you're

1051
01:52:00,952 --> 01:52:07,259
going to have to make this a conservation easement. So I want my question wants to

1052
01:52:07,259 --> 01:52:11,897
address that. A lot of problems will be solved here if we could do that. Is there any way we

1053
01:52:11,897 --> 01:52:19,504
can negotiate with the tribe to mitigate a purchase mitigated land for this?

1054
01:52:19,504 --> 01:52:24,420
So in our conversations through the consultation with the 2 tribes sub Olympic Chong, the

1055
01:52:24,420 --> 01:52:33,642
and based on the cultural port. There is multiple cultural resources in this area so that

1056
01:52:33,685 --> 01:52:39,891
it I think it would be a ask of the tribes to to kind of go back on that. Okay. There is

1057
01:52:39,891 --> 01:52:48,266
a large and the truth or they call it but rack but crack rock which is cooking area, goes

1058
01:52:48,266 --> 01:52:56,441
back to the thousands of years and they've document and that is in right in that vicinity.

1059
01:52:56,441 --> 01:53:00,512
Yeah. And that's the biggest area. Also like talk a little bit of a kind change subjects a

1060
01:53:00,512 --> 01:53:05,317
little bit. Just your chair could. This was a huge drug area. We did not realize that

1061
01:53:05,317 --> 01:53:10,422
we purchased the property the as yet, but crack rock. There are people

1062
01:53:10,422 --> 01:53:16,294
living up there in mattresses and covered areas. And when we first went in there started

1063
01:53:16,294 --> 01:53:21,967
cleaning it up. They started destroying our equipment because we and we actually push

1064
01:53:21,967 --> 01:53:28,507
the drug traffic's out of there. Eventually we we have that role cars. That's that was

1065
01:53:28,507 --> 01:53:33,178
a big drug area. And we didn't know before we started. We think we've actually help clean

1066
01:53:33,178 --> 01:53:39,751
the area. That's that's our that's good. That's good. So so basically it's off the

1067
01:53:39,751 --> 01:53:42,530
table to negotiate with the tribe that there's also one other reason. You know, we've

1068
01:53:42,530 --> 01:53:51,530
heard from fire that that does toe come to one confluence point number and Normandy.

1069
01:53:51,296 --> 01:53:59,696
So having to pay them. So that's off it. What wears David Faust. David,

1070
01:54:03,341 --> 01:54:07,946
can you come up? They see allowed to speak since he's on the commission and about its

1071
01:54:07,946 --> 01:54:14,546
findings. Can we ask you some technical questions? The Parks Commission.

1072
01:54:15,387 --> 01:54:17,421
No Heat. Are you talking about whether you can ask him questions as to

1073
01:54:17,421 --> 01:54:24,210
what happened at the Parks Commission? About about ideas from the

1074
01:54:27,132 --> 01:54:29,634
Parks Commission. Yes, no, because he's here for public comment. He is not representing

1075
01:54:29,634 --> 01:54:36,675
staff for the entirety of the Parks Commission. Okay. Thank you so while asked city staff,

1076
01:54:36,675 --> 01:54:44,475
what is the likelihood of moving the dog park to the Bradley Park?

1077
01:54:46,718 --> 01:54:49,654
Well, a CNA. I was going to ask for a community services director to come in and assist

1078
01:54:49,654 --> 01:54:55,120
with that. Maybe some of the our questions. Good Evening Commission.

1079
01:54:55,120 --> 01:55:02,152
Marianna Mitchell Committee services director. I want to clarify which park exactly is

1080
01:55:02,152 --> 01:55:06,724
so so. So one of the proposals was in the area. They're going to chop off because of the new

1081
01:55:06,724 --> 01:55:11,429
Port Access Road. We have a presentation at the 2 proposed little dog parks

1082
01:55:11,429 --> 01:55:18,168
in the little corner that we were going to lose. It's insufficient size. So as

1083
01:55:18,168 --> 01:55:26,644
an offset, could those dog parks the funded at the Bradley Park is that something that?

1084
01:55:26,644 --> 01:55:32,383
Parks and community services would support it. So we're we're always open to

1085
01:55:32,383 --> 01:55:38,383
conversations about what would offset or increase park amenities through

1086
01:55:39,230 --> 01:55:44,796
development of this nature and 14, not completely clear what park off Bradley referring to.

1087
01:55:44,796 --> 01:55:48,866
I don't believe we have a city-owned park. A mention moving to the Bradley Park.

1088
01:55:48,866 --> 01:55:55,506
So I guess let me ask about it all. Is there another park that if this developer could find

1089
01:55:55,506 --> 01:55:59,377
a park site, a dog park at another location since this would not probably function

1090
01:55:59,377 --> 01:56:05,216
well, as we're absolutely open to discuss that with a developer develop. And my

1091
01:56:05,216 --> 01:56:14,216
question, thank you. I talked about possibly no Berea. What about the wall between on

1092
01:56:16,928 --> 01:56:22,133
the will, the eastern wall between the tri plexus and the existing homes? I heard a

1093
01:56:22,133 --> 01:56:27,533
comment that that was degrading. Is that true? And

1094
01:56:28,272 --> 01:56:32,977
what's to like the of the of adding a condition of approval to rebuild that wall and

1095
01:56:32,977 --> 01:56:40,385
possibly even raise it. As part of the final engineering. If we find that

1096
01:56:40,385 --> 01:56:47,658
that wall is not in good shape than we could require that to be reconstructed are placed.

1097
01:56:47,658 --> 01:56:57,258
Just to make a note of this. Next question is. If the Newport Road access the

1098
01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:15,386
road, the cutoff thing, can we pull it up? Yeah. So where the interests to it. If if this

1099
01:57:15,386 --> 01:57:21,292
gets approved. I would want to see because right now like there's a fight

1100
01:57:21,292 --> 01:57:25,196
believe is their offense along Newport, that this is fence, assert certain that has a full

1101
01:57:25,196 --> 01:57:30,101
circumference of the of the park or just like along Newport and various other is split rail

1102
01:57:30,101 --> 01:57:36,507
on Newport, always but route, OK? My thought would be there

1103
01:57:36,507 --> 01:57:42,747
should be either a rod iron fans or some kind of maybe 3 foot fence, something on the

1104
01:57:42,747 --> 01:57:50,898
park's decide. On the. They do whatever it takes. We doing. It should be a fence here here

1105
01:57:50,898 --> 01:57:56,804
that would force traffic if you go up to 8 lead a March Frost. And kids and dogs and stuff.

1106
01:57:56,804 --> 01:58:04,604
So that's that's my concern there. You can make a note of that.

1107
01:58:05,212 --> 01:58:09,183
You see to do a better exhibit that we can use instead of this one may be in the staff

1108
01:58:09,183 --> 01:58:15,220
presentation. If you want to bring up the staff's presentation, I think

1109
01:58:15,220 --> 01:58:20,427
this one does show the entirety a little bit better. But I'm okay with it. Also mentions you

1110
01:58:20,427 --> 01:58:30,427
need more aerial. I'm okay with the one that was there and Super Bowl is this pool and

1111
01:58:34,875 --> 01:58:40,275
clubhouse proposed private or public. It's private is private.

1112
01:58:41,548 --> 01:58:49,348
Okay. So those are my I mean, once again, I'm not sold on.

1113
01:58:52,260 --> 01:58:57,998
The 4 stories in the higher density. I don't see the benefit to the city. I don't

1114
01:58:57,998 --> 01:59:05,773
see him being mitigated. My last one, which may help a lot of these.

1115
01:59:05,773 --> 01:59:12,479
Is my suggestion that period to become condos, not apartments. And this

1116
01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:16,116
is why I live next to it than a single family residence right next to the little that could

1117
01:59:16,116 --> 01:59:22,656
throw a rock at him. apartments and then condos next to it. The lots are the same

1118
01:59:22,656 --> 01:59:31,532
size. They basically look the same. But one is apartment units which is renters. One

1119
01:59:31,532 --> 01:59:36,770
is ownership. It goes renters condos. And then the existing single family residence.

1120
01:59:36,770 --> 01:59:42,876
It is a great buffer. I mean, I like to say this publicly, but ownership drives.

1121
01:59:42,876 --> 01:59:51,876
Let's public safety problems. Less. Of noise, those kind of things. So in my opinion.

1122
01:59:53,353 --> 01:59:58,859
This really should be an ownership product, not a rental product. I don't have a problem

1123
01:59:58,859 --> 02:00:01,461
with the units as much if it's ownership. So I want to throw that out there to the

1124
02:00:01,461 --> 02:00:08,235
commission and see what your thoughts are on that. Also. Hi, I'm with the Parks

1125
02:00:08,235 --> 02:00:15,108
Commission in. It first 5 to if we can't going off of Normandy because of the

1126
02:00:15,108 --> 02:00:18,345
tribal land and because of the confluence of concentration of fireworks and we have to go

1127
02:00:18,345 --> 02:00:24,451
off in Newport. I'm not in love with chopping the park. But there's something that this

1128
02:00:24,451 --> 02:00:30,490
project has to bring to the community to offset the loss of that park. And I don't see what

1129
02:00:30,490 --> 02:00:36,500
that is yet. I don't see and I'm open to contra. Got open to ideas that this could be

1130
02:00:36,500 --> 02:00:40,154
a win-win, a property right sky. You have property you should be able to develop it.

1131
02:00:40,154 --> 02:00:46,294
I hate to say this, but when everyone, but I've been here since 1997. And there was open

1132
02:00:46,294 --> 02:00:51,666
fields at my house had fields around. It is now surrounded by track lumps. I didn't like

1133
02:00:51,666 --> 02:00:56,700
that. But whoever on that land has a right to develop it. And when the city's owns it a

1134
02:00:56,700 --> 02:01:02,760
certain way, they have a right to develop it. And we we want that. That has to be mitigated

1135
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:07,315
by what it does to the surrounding community and twos to the city as

1136
02:01:07,315 --> 02:01:13,210
a whole. I don't see that game to the city on this project yet. Work with staff proposed

1137
02:01:13,210 --> 02:01:17,758
what you can bring to the city that would benefit either the surrounding neighbors will

1138
02:01:17,758 --> 02:01:23,131
first. We're going to have to mitigate some things. And number 2, what why should the

1139
02:01:23,131 --> 02:01:28,336
city loses basically chopping off the corner? That park is we're losing it basically.

1140
02:01:28,336 --> 02:01:30,938
What can you bring to the table to offset that? Those are my thoughts to the commission.

1141
02:01:30,938 --> 02:01:40,538
Love to hear what you to think. I have a question if we entertain condos. Are

1142
02:01:45,853 --> 02:01:54,253
there. Does that affect of and are there other places where the moderates, income

1143
02:01:54,962 --> 02:02:01,562
level Arena? Units go. Our with condos. The moderate income level.

1144
02:02:02,737 --> 02:02:11,137
Well, the project before you today, it's for end product. It's one parcel under

1145
02:02:11,946 --> 02:02:15,483
one ownership he ordered to entertain a condo project. Obviously he would have to one,

1146
02:02:15,483 --> 02:02:21,622
you know, kind of go bag to the processing beyond analyzes he for sell product with the

1147
02:02:21,622 --> 02:02:29,422
additional abdication of stuck on the map. Again. 4 story building. Can that be

1148
02:02:35,970 --> 02:02:44,912
set up as a kind of perhaps? But you should be that type Lindy sign a to

1149
02:02:44,912 --> 02:02:52,987
4 a for apartments in for rent product. The Tripe Lakes could be. Maybe be a product

1150
02:02:52,987 --> 02:03:00,787
that could the perhaps that condo map. But today the request from the

1151
02:03:00,928 --> 02:03:08,728
applicant has to do 84 and product with these 2 types of. Building building types.

1152
02:03:10,204 --> 02:03:16,804
to answer a couple of your questions, Commissioner Thomas the the

1153
02:03:18,913 --> 02:03:27,913
project has to go back to the Parks Commission. To get the Queen Bee Agreement

1154
02:03:28,533 --> 02:03:31,569
approve. It's part of the process. They they they need to work with staff and

1155
02:03:31,569 --> 02:03:38,109
work with the Parks Commission to make sure that we get something that it's acceptable

1156
02:03:38,109 --> 02:03:43,848
to the city into the purse commission. So in terms of the exchange, what are we getting

1157
02:03:43,848 --> 02:03:51,489
out of it again, the asking nation wants to do this and that the person Commission, the

1158
02:03:51,489 --> 02:04:01,650
not support that. So we're kind of back to square one in terms of figuring that out again.

1159
02:04:01,650 --> 02:04:05,690
I'm the end of the day, the A C D and the parks Commission. We we we have the last say on

1160
02:04:05,690 --> 02:04:14,690
it in terms holes, whatever the offer, a tempting that what we're losing in terms

1161
02:04:14,545 --> 02:04:19,830
that's dry weight around property that would those be. But again, there has to be

1162
02:04:19,830 --> 02:04:24,489
there has to be that process that needs to be complete. And at

1163
02:04:24,489 --> 02:04:30,828
this point, the applicant understands and they're willing to work with us and and the

1164
02:04:30,828 --> 02:04:36,434
Parks Commission to propose something that. That hopefully is going to be acceptable to

1165
02:04:36,434 --> 02:04:41,834
both. Okay. So I'll just put out there that.

1166
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:48,112
I don't see no matter what goes in this parcel. It's not gonna work in this. We have that new

1167
02:04:48,112 --> 02:04:54,152
port connection is just not going to. So the Newport Connection has to happen in

1168
02:04:54,152 --> 02:05:01,352
my mind. Which means something needs to be mitigated offset for the

1169
02:05:02,627 --> 02:05:05,530
Lost Ark. So and and also I don't see how this project could work in this. It's an

1170
02:05:05,530 --> 02:05:10,670
ownership product personally. So my suggestion would be to continue it and work out the

1171
02:05:10,670 --> 02:05:17,267
details on this. That would be my suggestion. Commissioner Thomas, I've been

1172
02:05:18,276 --> 02:05:26,760
grappling with that whole trade off. As well. In terms of I mean,

1173
02:05:26,851 --> 02:05:30,855
we've heard from the Parks Commission are representative from the Parks Commission.

1174
02:05:30,855 --> 02:05:39,497
I did see the meeting and they were very adamant about this isn't. What we want in the

1175
02:05:39,497 --> 02:05:46,437
community. So I would be agreeable to to what you're proposing. So so

1176
02:05:46,437 --> 02:05:49,841
I did not watch that. But would you say when you said the words, this is not good for

1177
02:05:49,841 --> 02:05:59,441
the committee? Was that the the infill project or just that they were OK with the

1178
02:06:02,987 --> 02:06:07,324
the residential product that they are not okay with ICE acting the part that part and

1179
02:06:07,324 --> 02:06:16,324
also they were not okay with the dog park. The from what I recall. And

1180
02:06:17,134 --> 02:06:21,538
they said that passive. Open space is part of an official to the community

1181
02:06:21,538 --> 02:06:25,877
because the dog park on the caters to a certain type of resident.

1182
02:06:25,877 --> 02:06:34,218
So if I could jump back into about holidays for taking bath. City staff.

1183
02:06:34,218 --> 02:06:39,824
Is there any viable alternative to the Newport Connection? We've talked about the travel

1184
02:06:39,824 --> 02:06:46,424
and that's not gonna work. We've talked about. Fire access, funneling

1185
02:06:47,365 --> 02:06:52,437
everything down. Debris in Normandy fire doesn't like that because it's a one point

1186
02:06:52,437 --> 02:06:58,142
access. So is there any other viable opportunities for this infill project other than that

1187
02:06:58,142 --> 02:07:03,981
Newport, One and I I would love to get with a new for just tell me. Is there any other viable

1188
02:07:03,981 --> 02:07:10,254
options? You know, that this was actually the staff's recommendation to the applicant

1189
02:07:10,254 --> 02:07:16,861
because of time we were concerned with the neighborhood to the east. So we want to

1190
02:07:16,861 --> 02:07:20,765
impact that. So we obviously understood that we're going to be patients with the cultural

1191
02:07:20,765 --> 02:07:26,104
resources. So this wasn't even proposed by the applicant. And we

1192
02:07:26,104 --> 02:07:30,274
actually have Brad to forward to the app and say, you know what, let's look at this

1193
02:07:30,274 --> 02:07:39,874
because this seems to be I love all the scenarios. The least. Harmful to that to

1194
02:07:42,353 --> 02:07:47,792
the neighborhood right as Maybe a lot of weight on a couple more other issues in terms of

1195
02:07:47,792 --> 02:07:56,192
your comments about making for ownership project you know. Everything that we process or

1196
02:07:56,834 --> 02:08:01,773
18, 80% of what we process in Cannes before the planning commission is for ownership,

1197
02:08:01,773 --> 02:08:06,444
whether it's single-family residential where there is a medium density or even higher

1198
02:08:06,444 --> 02:08:14,850
density in terms of of condos, right there. He's a need over a makes

1199
02:08:14,850 --> 02:08:20,850
both types of units. These. Project for one-bedroom apartments, two-bedroom

1200
02:08:24,362 --> 02:08:31,502
apartment, which we don't have a lot of options in the city. So I'm

1201
02:08:31,502 --> 02:08:39,143
that makes a challenge in trying to provide the type of product we constantly to get

1202
02:08:39,143 --> 02:08:43,614
comments from. Residents. Then, you know, they're they're college kids.

1203
02:08:43,614 --> 02:08:51,956
You know, they can come back because they that they don't have a place to go. You

1204
02:08:51,956 --> 02:09:00,732
the residential single-family home price in the even though. It's more economical and in the

1205
02:09:00,732 --> 02:09:07,905
side of of the county and still expensive for a segment of the population. So this helps us

1206
02:09:07,905 --> 02:09:17,505
meet that need as well. In terms of your statistics for a crime. We've had other

1207
02:09:17,693 --> 02:09:22,797
multifamily projects because strength in other parts of the city. We haven't seen that

1208
02:09:22,797 --> 02:09:27,802
increase or at least the house and the chair with that. So I'm not sure if this is

1209
02:09:27,802 --> 02:09:34,443
unique to this area where there are affecting that as well. So I

1210
02:09:34,443 --> 02:09:39,815
don't think there's a correlation between multi-family in crime. They

1211
02:09:39,815 --> 02:09:47,220
may be some but not not to the extent that that we're talking today.

1212
02:09:47,220 --> 02:09:51,226
So on to pay back money just said the project I'm referring to near me. It is a gated

1213
02:09:51,226 --> 02:10:00,226
community. So that is something staff with that effect crime levels and behavior on the

1214
02:10:02,370 --> 02:10:11,370
site. Would you think? Kind of along those lines? I've heard a number of things

1215
02:10:17,986 --> 02:10:25,600
this evening from neighbors, the comments that most concern me that I've heard

1216
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:32,134
really revolved around. For lack of a better phrase. Also criminal activities around

1217
02:10:32,134 --> 02:10:39,274
the site that that concerns me that concerns me because if if I live adjacent to that,

1218
02:10:39,274 --> 02:10:44,713
I would not feel at peace at home and that's really important so that that one

1219
02:10:44,713 --> 02:10:49,117
resonates parking issues, off-site parking issues that spill over

1220
02:10:49,117 --> 02:10:55,717
out of the project. I think that's another very legitimate concern.

1221
02:10:56,925 --> 02:11:01,896
I I want to get to safety in just a second, but I want to see if I could. I'd like to say

1222
02:11:01,896 --> 02:11:05,567
a couple of things. The access off of Newport doesn't particularly concerned me.

1223
02:11:05,567 --> 02:11:11,272
I think that there's a way to potentially mitigate the impacts of that. I think what

1224
02:11:11,272 --> 02:11:14,175
you ask for some additional mitigation is appropriate. I don't know what that is yet,

1225
02:11:14,175 --> 02:11:22,150
but I think there's a way to do that. That seems to be the least impactful, a remote

1226
02:11:22,150 --> 02:11:29,950
location and without secondary egress, even the 5 to 8 density. Would not be possible

1227
02:11:31,359 --> 02:11:36,263
to build on this site. Secondary means of egress that remote like that is absolute.

1228
02:11:36,263 --> 02:11:41,200
Otherwise you create additional problems for the city that I would particularly. Now.

1229
02:11:41,200 --> 02:11:49,511
But but that's just we have to have that. I do like the way that could

1230
02:11:49,511 --> 02:11:54,416
you flip to the ran one of the site plan may be that landscape plan. Whatever most clearly

1231
02:11:54,416 --> 02:12:04,160
shows the drive aisles. Through the project. I do. I do think there is a but

1232
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:09,131
and that's OK about the colored up 1, one that had colored rivals result easier to see

1233
02:12:09,131 --> 02:12:13,931
the driver. Lawyer. Well, you're looking for that.

1234
02:12:17,139 --> 02:12:25,714
I do think that that. You want to slice. I do think that that I like the

1235
02:12:25,714 --> 02:12:32,421
way that the forest right buildings were pulled back. Which is not the case with the

1236
02:12:32,421 --> 02:12:39,795
boulders. One project I I I think that's responsive to some of the concerns that I've heard

1237
02:12:39,795 --> 02:12:44,166
with the 2 stories located closer to the existing single family homes that can be one

1238
02:12:44,166 --> 02:12:51,730
or 2, one or 2 stories. I think that's appropriate the site does feel very, very tight to

1239
02:12:51,730 --> 02:13:00,730
me. The circulation through the sate is a little concerning having to zigzag through that.

1240
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:05,754
That last could you use the cursor grand the bottom block of for story buildings,

1241
02:13:05,754 --> 02:13:14,154
the one closest to Newport. You, which ones I'm talking about. Yeah, that block.

1242
02:13:15,264 --> 02:13:20,769
Could that block seems like that block could be mirrored. So the drive I would come

1243
02:13:20,769 --> 02:13:27,242
straight down and you have a pedestrian. Corridor through the center

1244
02:13:27,242 --> 02:13:31,913
of the site leading to the recreation center. To me that works a little better. It

1245
02:13:31,913 --> 02:13:39,888
doesn't. I don't think you lose any units. It separates making. It said all along, make it a

1246
02:13:39,888 --> 02:13:45,294
square. No, just mere mean with that. If it looked around this way and friend so the drive

1247
02:13:45,294 --> 02:13:49,598
out would be on the right side and the pedestrian path would be through the.

1248
02:13:49,598 --> 02:13:51,933
Through the middle to run, then vertical. That's just that's just one of my thoughts.

1249
02:13:51,933 --> 02:13:59,133
I think that would help the internal site. Having said all that.

1250
02:14:00,743 --> 02:14:08,543
I think I still have some concerns over the very high fire hazard

1251
02:14:08,984 --> 02:14:12,921
severity zone. Air is in making sure that we're cleaning that up properly. I think with the

1252
02:14:12,921 --> 02:14:19,280
other concerns that I've heard this evening I would also support a continuance for maybe

1253
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:28,280
slightly different reasons. But I would like to ask the applicant to continue to work

1254
02:14:28,871 --> 02:14:36,912
with staff. I think the site plan is close. But I would like to have the applicant

1255
02:14:36,912 --> 02:14:41,500
continue to work with staff and maybe refine that and work on some of the some of the

1256
02:14:41,500 --> 02:14:46,210
other things that I've heard. One of the things that I think they could avail themselves

1257
02:14:46,210 --> 02:14:54,463
of damage done so already would be meet with PD. And let's let's have them go through a

1258
02:14:54,463 --> 02:14:58,679
separate head review so that so that we can understand if there's crime prevention for

1259
02:14:58,679 --> 02:15:05,279
amount of environmental design started to slip back into acronyms. Sometimes.

1260
02:15:05,919 --> 02:15:10,491
To go through that process to review to see if there's ways to improve on site security

1261
02:15:10,491 --> 02:15:17,640
for the boulders to project, which is what we're talking about here. Some of that might

1262
02:15:17,640 --> 02:15:23,871
have application for Boulder's want. So for those reasons, I think I would also support a

1263
02:15:23,871 --> 02:15:28,275
continuance. So my my question, if the commission decides to do that, what would be an

1264
02:15:28,275 --> 02:15:34,875
appropriate time frame, Mr. Director. I do understand we you know,

1265
02:15:36,160 --> 02:15:40,254
the city wants to, you know, get this thing moving along. So I don't want to unreasonably

1266
02:15:40,254 --> 02:15:45,225
delay further consideration. But I think there's enough loosens that.

1267
02:15:45,225 --> 02:15:48,595
It merits this, especially given that this is not a arena site. And this is a fairly

1268
02:15:48,595 --> 02:15:53,934
substantial general plan amendment. In the back on that. What is

1269
02:15:53,934 --> 02:16:02,934
the feasibility of making it? And that's it would it would have to be analyzed

1270
02:16:07,114 --> 02:16:11,585
by engineering to make sure that the stacking works, that that.

1271
02:16:11,585 --> 02:16:20,260
And there's sufficient turn around and hand. It's something that we can. Consider as we.

1272
02:16:20,260 --> 02:16:26,860
Continue to analyze the project. To do that. In and suggested

1273
02:16:30,504 --> 02:16:35,809
time front. I think in order for in order to give us some time to. You know, work some

1274
02:16:35,809 --> 02:16:44,484
of that. Issues in common is that were raised today probably to continue the project to the

1275
02:16:44,484 --> 02:16:52,884
first meeting in October. I would I would support that is or which one?

1276
02:16:53,593 --> 02:17:00,193
I'm okay with continuing that item. Sure. Sure. All. The first

1277
02:17:04,104 --> 02:17:11,110
meeting in October. That was up Tobar 14th, October 14th. Ok, thank you so.

1278
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:20,611
Just to be you do what you need to touch that. We propose that we continue.

1279
02:17:20,721 --> 02:17:26,560
It may be before we see a continuance, if we can make an know that the property owner

1280
02:17:26,560 --> 02:17:33,233
should work with staff on the following issues to resolve them. Number one would be the

1281
02:17:33,233 --> 02:17:40,173
increased. Just measures to do a better job than you Boulders. One

1282
02:17:40,173 --> 02:17:45,278
number 2, meet with police. Get the call volume to see what the actual

1283
02:17:45,278 --> 02:17:50,718
crime level is at this level. This one as well as possible additional on saint measures to

1284
02:17:50,718 --> 02:17:56,224
improve it. I would specifically like to to explore that ceppt to process to see if

1285
02:17:56,224 --> 02:18:02,224
there's measures ship Sept Ed. That's number 2. Number 3 would be.

1286
02:18:04,432 --> 02:18:11,639
Talk about the parking issue on Berea possibly making free a no parking zone for the frontage

1287
02:18:11,639 --> 02:18:16,478
of the property or working with and working with management on parking enforcement. Or

1288
02:18:16,478 --> 02:18:23,451
whatever measures we could do. That's that's the next the 3rd issue, the 4th issue would be

1289
02:18:23,451 --> 02:18:26,521
to confirm about the degraded walls on of West's on the east side between that resonate in

1290
02:18:26,521 --> 02:18:33,721
residential and that reflects is the 4th issue. The 5th would be

1291
02:18:34,763 --> 02:18:42,904
to go to the Parks Commission and as well as staff. To think appropriate mitigation

1292
02:18:42,904 --> 02:18:50,478
matter for the last of the park. What when could we have for everybody there?

1293
02:18:50,478 --> 02:18:56,478
Also to discuss? And ownership project ownership possibility tainted tonight.

1294
02:19:00,550 --> 02:19:04,250
We won it. So the ownership I do understand your your point. I get a little nervous about

1295
02:19:04,250 --> 02:19:08,863
that. Distinction between making a distinction between rental and

1296
02:19:08,863 --> 02:19:14,863
owner. Properties and Mike in the capacity I'm sitting here.

1297
02:19:16,370 --> 02:19:21,409
She said last night it is your problem. The way I worded it know. So I don't think there's

1298
02:19:21,409 --> 02:19:24,450
any way to implement what you're describing in the time frame because that they have

1299
02:19:24,450 --> 02:19:29,684
come back and do it. He tm for condo purposes. That's going to take a lot longer than that.

1300
02:19:29,684 --> 02:19:37,625
I don't expect him to have a map. They could discuss ownerships. The property owners

1301
02:19:37,625 --> 02:19:41,229
willingness and feasibility. You're interested in a conceptual kind of sexual

1302
02:19:41,229 --> 02:19:47,769
conversation. And and likelihood. So we don't have to have a

1303
02:19:47,769 --> 02:19:51,740
drafted him. You don't have to. There's no patients and things. Yeah, yeah. There's no way to

1304
02:19:51,740 --> 02:19:55,477
get that done. And that amount of time is that this is that workable, a concert. You know

1305
02:19:55,477 --> 02:20:00,615
the conversation from a concept standpoint. And again, I'm I'm I'm nervous about a distinction

1306
02:20:00,615 --> 02:20:04,819
between the 2. So the so anything else you to want to add as far as what

1307
02:20:04,819 --> 02:20:09,390
needs to be discussed. Prior to suggesting continuance? Ok, then I'll propose a

1308
02:20:09,390 --> 02:20:15,996
continuance on the project. Is it to date certain what he said to him, October 14th.

1309
02:20:15,996 --> 02:20:24,873
Yes. Is that your motion? That's my motion. Madam City clerk. As you get all that I

1310
02:20:24,873 --> 02:20:32,280
did OK? And and OK, we're going to take a vote that I have just one

1311
02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:39,354
thing. And do we? It's still stuck on waiting. Do you want us to do a switch to voicer?

1312
02:20:39,354 --> 02:20:48,354
Here we go. Okay. Chris. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Please vote.

1313
02:21:00,554 --> 02:21:06,554
Operator. The motion passes with all 3 commissioners voting for the

1314
02:21:09,329 --> 02:21:13,734
continuance. make this comment after this photo that I would encourage the property owner to

1315
02:21:13,734 --> 02:21:20,373
work with staff, see what we can do to mitigate it so your project can get done for the

1316
02:21:20,373 --> 02:21:27,114
project, just how it's done. So let's see if we can have a win-win year.

1317
02:21:27,114 --> 02:21:31,651
Okay. That concludes that item. There are no discussion items for

1318
02:21:31,651 --> 02:21:36,890
this evening. Director Hernandez to have any updates or comments and then today

1319
02:21:36,890 --> 02:21:45,290
think of anything came. If we could just wait for vice Right on time.

1320
02:21:52,739 --> 02:21:58,711
Those the commission. Commissioner night and have anything to report and

1321
02:21:58,711 --> 02:22:07,111
community activities. Well, in 2 hours. Going to court. And to me. On August, 18th.

1322
02:22:11,224 --> 02:22:19,624
I went to the Rotary Clock dedication ceremony that was pretty cold. Linda. Jennifer

1323
02:22:20,300 --> 02:22:30,300
Jean passed away recently. On the 31st, wants the district for a town hall. That was well

1324
02:22:30,777 --> 02:22:36,777
attended what information over there that Dean was. That's teen's

1325
02:22:37,917 --> 02:22:44,724
final one. By 9, 1, I went over to the interfaith meeting over Cross a fire station 7. That

1326
02:22:44,724 --> 02:22:50,498
the largest meeting of scene there ever. With all the community members

1327
02:22:50,498 --> 02:22:56,498
and they're talking about upcoming. Fall. Activities. On the 8th.

1328
02:23:05,712 --> 02:23:10,650
says yesterday I went to the SEC introduction of Dr Dotson that was hosted by the NFL is

1329
02:23:10,650 --> 02:23:17,190
Chamber of Commerce. And then after that, what was my family over the Quail Valley Moose

1330
02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:24,831
Lodge for the district, 2 candidate for. That's all you. Thank you. Thank you.

1331
02:23:24,831 --> 02:23:29,803
Commission the commission like to request any future agenda items.

1332
02:23:29,803 --> 02:23:37,300
Seeing none. I adjourn this meeting at 8.21, thank you all for coming.