1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:10,360 I call the planning commission meeting for September 3, 2026 to order, and we'll begin with the pledge. 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,060 from 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:24,240 the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,060 Jackie, call the roll, please. 5 00:00:30,340 --> 00:00:31,000 Mr. Perkovich? 6 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:32,380 Mr. T. Demen? 7 00:00:32,660 --> 00:00:33,400 Mr. Varga? 8 00:00:34,060 --> 00:00:34,620 Mr. Zelensky? 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Mr. Hadden? 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:36,900 Mr. O'Donnell? 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,880 Mr. Carver? 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:38,440 Here. 13 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:44,120 I'll entertain a motion for the approval of the minutes from the regular meeting of August 13th, 2026. 14 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:44,900 So moved. 15 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:45,440 Second. 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Jackie, call the roll, please. 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,900 Mr. Parker-Vitch. 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,340 Mr. Tiedemann. 19 00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:49,700 Yes. 20 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:50,540 Mr. Varga. 21 00:00:50,780 --> 00:00:50,940 Yes. 22 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:51,740 Mr. Zalewski. 23 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:52,160 Yes. 24 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:52,740 Mr. Hannon. 25 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,200 Yes. 26 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:53,860 Mr. O'Donnell. 27 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Yes. 28 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:54,800 Mr. Parker. 29 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:55,600 Yes. 30 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,080 On tonight's agenda, we have two public hearings, and we will follow this format. 31 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:05,080 First, the applicant will present their plans and explain what they would like to do at a particular location. 32 00:01:05,660 --> 00:01:08,860 Second, we will hear from anyone who wishes to speak in favor of the proposal. 33 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,220 And finally, we'll hear from anyone who wishes to speak in opposition. 34 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:16,680 Also, if there are general questions, we'll do our best to get those answered for you. 35 00:01:17,180 --> 00:01:24,860 With that in mind, our first conditional use permit is to allow a recreational facility at 8,000 plaza boulevard unit A. 36 00:01:25,540 --> 00:01:26,380 Is that applicant here? 37 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,300 Please come up to the podium. 38 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,560 Yeah, if you're both going to speak, yeah, sure. 39 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,540 Come on up, give us your name and address for the record. 40 00:01:37,540 --> 00:01:42,060 I can't to bondy 7351, Trotwood Drive Concord. 41 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,100 No? 42 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:43,480 No? 43 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Planner fitness. 44 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:45,760 Planner fitness. 45 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,100 Yeah, those are for Planner fitness. 46 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:47,500 I'm sorry. 47 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:48,800 8000. 48 00:01:48,980 --> 00:01:49,700 8000 Plaza. 49 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,480 8000 Plaza Boulevard. 50 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:52,760 There you go. 51 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,000 That's okay. 52 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:55,700 I didn't prepare a speech. 53 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:56,820 No, that's all right. 54 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Give us your name and address please. 55 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Anthony Silvis addresses 30733 Crescent Drive. 56 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:05,220 Will Wico-Hile. 57 00:02:05,220 --> 00:02:10,100 And just a little bit about what you're going to do at the site. 58 00:02:10,740 --> 00:02:20,320 So, Planet Fitness, we are a smaller, I guess you would say, franchise group. 59 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,600 We previously have a building across the street right now at the Metermall. 60 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:27,080 We're looking to move into the old Joanne fabrics. 61 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:33,260 We employ roughly anywhere from 15 to 20 people, full time and part time. 62 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,560 And we're just seeking approval for that space. 63 00:02:38,180 --> 00:02:39,780 Okay, okay, hang tight one second. 64 00:02:40,140 --> 00:02:42,240 Is there anyone wishing to speak in favor? 65 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:46,340 Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition? 66 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,960 There being none, this public hearing is closed at 702. 67 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Kathy, anything from the administration on this? 68 00:02:55,580 --> 00:02:59,000 Mr. Chairman, we have the conditions that we want. 69 00:03:03,670 --> 00:03:06,430 And we have any questions or comments from the commission members? 70 00:03:06,430 --> 00:03:15,850 You're chairman. I have a question actually. So how how large is the place at 71 00:03:15,850 --> 00:03:20,810 Joanne at the deal Joanne's compared to where you are at the mall? Roughly we're 72 00:03:20,810 --> 00:03:31,950 taking over 25,000 square feet. Okay. The entire the current square footage in 73 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:37,450 the matter mall is right around 19. Okay. So you're looking at six thousand square feet. 74 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:43,590 Roughly. I open export more. It's fan more and put more equipment and new equipment 75 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:49,090 bringing in more circuit training type style functional training type tile equipment. 76 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:54,670 Okay. Yep. Great. Thank you very much. Yep. Anyone else? 77 00:03:57,420 --> 00:03:59,280 I have a questions and exit for 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:08,100 It says here, I think this number seven, exterior architectural re-imaging. 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,340 It talks about a separate review. 80 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:16,620 Are we asking them to come back just for that at a later date? 81 00:04:16,660 --> 00:04:22,320 There's nothing that's been proposed, and so we just like to advise the applicant that 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,040 if they're going to make any changes to the exterior, make sure that that comes back for 83 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,200 or a proper review. 84 00:04:29,780 --> 00:04:32,500 And are you planning on making any changes 85 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:33,720 to the outside of the building? 86 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:36,140 Not signs, we're not that's a... 87 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:37,620 No, nothing to the facade, 88 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:39,840 just like you said exterior signs is the only thing. 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,020 I did, there is a column, 90 00:04:44,340 --> 00:04:46,380 but landlords responsibility for fixing that. 91 00:04:46,860 --> 00:04:49,580 So there's nothing change, thank you. 92 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:52,360 Anyone else? 93 00:04:53,780 --> 00:04:54,620 Mr. Chairman. 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,600 Yes, that's right. 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:02,680 And everyone we've had, we've always asked our AED, it's not in here, for any fitness center that we usually have. 96 00:05:02,860 --> 00:05:03,980 We can certainly add it. 97 00:05:04,140 --> 00:05:05,180 That's something we should add, just to. 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:05,860 We can certainly add it. 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,420 For number nine, have an AED on site. 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,460 We currently, it's, yes. 101 00:05:14,580 --> 00:05:15,160 That's something you do. 102 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,900 Yes, in every employee is AED and CPR certified as well. 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Thank you. 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,940 Any other questions, comments? 105 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:28,820 I do have a question. 106 00:05:29,020 --> 00:05:30,160 I don't know if you're going to be able to answer it. 107 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,100 We're always worried about the mall concerned about, you know, leap people leaving. 108 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:37,620 There was a reason that you guys were leaving from the mall area and going with the Gillian fabrics. 109 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:38,520 I'm all for it. 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:45,380 I just want to know if there was any, and if you're not at liberty, say it's fine, I just, that's fine. 111 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:47,600 Our lease was up. 112 00:05:47,780 --> 00:05:47,980 Okay. 113 00:05:48,220 --> 00:05:48,360 Okay. 114 00:05:48,580 --> 00:05:48,800 That's fine. 115 00:05:49,220 --> 00:05:49,720 Thank you. 116 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,200 All right, with that, I will entertain a motion for a passage. 117 00:05:55,500 --> 00:06:00,660 In to approve with the now nine conditions, the AED included. 118 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:02,220 Second. 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:04,540 Jackie, call the roll, please. 120 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:05,740 Mr. Parker-Bitch. 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,020 Yes. 122 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:06,820 Mr. Tiedemann. 123 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:07,140 Yes. 124 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:07,760 Mr. Varga. 125 00:06:08,020 --> 00:06:08,180 Yes. 126 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:08,720 Mr. Leslie. 127 00:06:09,140 --> 00:06:09,340 Yes. 128 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Mr. Haddon. 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:10,360 Yes. 130 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,040 Mr. Parker. 131 00:06:12,460 --> 00:06:12,700 Yes. 132 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Thank you very much. 133 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Thank you. 134 00:06:16,140 --> 00:06:21,360 All right, item number two is a conditional use permit to allow a recreational facility at 135 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,180 8764 Tyler Boulevard. 136 00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:26,060 Yes, come up, we'll 137 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:34,000 try this again, give us your name, name and address for the record. 138 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:40,840 Our home address or the business is fine, okay, it's Kent, Bondy, 8764 Tyler Boulevard. 139 00:06:41,340 --> 00:06:46,560 Joe Mariano, same address, okay, and tell us a little bit about what you want to do with the location. 140 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:52,240 So we currently own Field 44 in Concord and it's been very successful. 141 00:06:53,820 --> 00:06:58,740 We created something called the lab which is a private hitting suite and we want to keep 142 00:06:58,740 --> 00:07:00,880 creating more of these throughout Lake County. 143 00:07:01,260 --> 00:07:07,000 So men are was our first, our second lab and we're excited to get it going. 144 00:07:07,780 --> 00:07:07,960 Okay. 145 00:07:08,380 --> 00:07:08,640 Great. 146 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,620 Thank you. 147 00:07:10,060 --> 00:07:12,760 Is there anyone wishing to speak in favor of this? 148 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,060 Is there anyone wishing to speak in opposition? 149 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,180 There being none, this public hearing is closed at 707. 150 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,640 Kathy, anything from the administration? 151 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:32,780 I just want to point out, yeah, it's a unit within an 11,663 group. 152 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:44,540 It's not, and then usually that would be taken away from what would otherwise be appropriate 153 00:07:44,540 --> 00:07:45,320 manufacturing. 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,360 Yeah, 155 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:58,920 they need to just speak into them like more you've not catch that. 156 00:07:59,220 --> 00:07:59,840 You did not. 157 00:08:03,310 --> 00:08:05,410 When you turn, when you turn your head, look at us. 158 00:08:05,490 --> 00:08:05,630 Sorry. 159 00:08:06,430 --> 00:08:07,350 I want to look at you. 160 00:08:08,010 --> 00:08:08,950 Well, thank you. 161 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:15,530 So this is a 1500 square foot space with a square foot building. 162 00:08:15,710 --> 00:08:18,350 I just wanted to emphasize the size of the space is rather small. 163 00:08:18,910 --> 00:08:20,750 This is a manufacturing zone. 164 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:27,310 However, due to the size of the space and the configuration of each of the units, 165 00:08:27,310 --> 00:08:42,830 It does lend itself well to a smaller tenant and this use would not be inhibiting in at least in the administration's opinion as noted in the analysis, but I just wanted to point that out, and we do have eight conditions that we've recommended for your consideration. 166 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:47,630 Thank you. Any questions, comments from the commission members? 167 00:08:48,410 --> 00:08:57,150 Mr. Chairman, Mr. Tiedemann, could you just real quick describe how the business works because the paper work is, I got says, you're open 24-7, so. 168 00:08:58,030 --> 00:09:00,830 So tell me how that works with no employees, what do you guys do? 169 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:06,930 So similar to a full gym membership that's 24-7, same concept which is for baseball and 170 00:09:06,930 --> 00:09:07,390 softball. 171 00:09:07,890 --> 00:09:12,730 So a member can go in there, they would reserve a time online, and they have their own 172 00:09:12,730 --> 00:09:18,290 code to get in, and they can go and hit baseball or softball or do light training essentially 173 00:09:18,290 --> 00:09:19,290 24-7. 174 00:09:19,690 --> 00:09:23,270 Now we've been open for about a year on the Concord side. 175 00:09:23,270 --> 00:09:28,350 I don't think anyone has ever booked past 11 o'clock at night. It's just one of those 176 00:09:29,250 --> 00:09:34,110 one of those things we offer. Right. The only people that are allowed in 24-7 are 177 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:40,490 members. It's not really open to the public. So it would just be members. And like 178 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:45,910 he said, no, he's coming to hit balls at 2 o'clock in the morning. This whole 179 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:48,870 Well, this whole concept is by appointment only. 180 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:55,610 So Monday, Monday, well, seven days a week at your normal traditional, like 8 a.m. 181 00:09:55,730 --> 00:10:03,950 to, you know, maybe 8 p.m., you can, a non-member can book a time and come in and use the space, 182 00:10:03,950 --> 00:10:10,170 but the member that's paying a monthly membership is the only person allowed in their past 183 00:10:10,630 --> 00:10:11,590 or closing hours. 184 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:14,190 I'm assuming batting cages, what else do you got in there? 185 00:10:14,510 --> 00:10:21,850 Just a big batting cage with a, I don't like a personalized suite where a mom and dad can come. 186 00:10:22,230 --> 00:10:23,290 There's water and coffee. 187 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:27,190 They could catch up on a Guardians game while their kids hit baseballs. 188 00:10:27,790 --> 00:10:30,470 I think there's some pictures too, I included in the back it. 189 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:31,550 Thank you. 190 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,020 Any other questions, comments? 191 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:36,900 Mr. Chairman, I have a question. 192 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:44,140 So I know you said you have no employees right now, is there someone station there when 193 00:10:44,140 --> 00:10:45,520 someone is scheduled? 194 00:10:48,020 --> 00:10:51,620 Well, right now it's us that we show up when someone's scheduled. 195 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,980 If they're not, if they're a member, they get themselves in. 196 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,080 If they've never been, we show them how to do it. 197 00:10:57,340 --> 00:10:57,580 Okay. 198 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,000 There's a key code that they could get in. 199 00:11:00,220 --> 00:11:01,160 It's pretty easy. 200 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:03,100 It's turning on a batting machine. 201 00:11:03,540 --> 00:11:03,720 Right. 202 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,720 And I guess the only question I have is, 203 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:13,200 As we did for the fitness center, we had like AED and people were certified and it looks like there's going to be one here 204 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:21,040 What happens if someone gets hit got for big it hits in the head or something happens what happens if there's no 205 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,520 staff there 206 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:29,180 Well, we do have an AED at our other location and that's part of the plans for this one 207 00:11:30,820 --> 00:11:35,600 There are cameras and we monitor people when they come and go and 208 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:49,600 And we could also, for something like this, we do have a system in place kind of like a medical alert system, where if they press a button help can find them and be on the way. 209 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:55,780 It's a medical alert system, but obviously it's just going to be using a different capacity for this type of thing. 210 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:57,600 Thank you. 211 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,580 Anyone else? 212 00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:01,400 Mr. Chairman? 213 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:01,900 Yes. 214 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:03,380 I just want to make a comment. 215 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,740 I've been to many kids birthday parties that field 44 over my children's friends and 216 00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:10,560 very impressed with the facility, very clean. 217 00:12:11,020 --> 00:12:11,320 Thank you. 218 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Very well run, so. 219 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:15,370 Okay. 220 00:12:15,510 --> 00:12:15,830 Thank you. 221 00:12:16,410 --> 00:12:17,190 Anyone else? 222 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:20,690 With that, I'll entertain a motion. 223 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:23,430 Motion to approve with the eight conditions. 224 00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:24,190 Second. 225 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:26,390 Jackie, call the roll, please. 226 00:12:26,390 --> 00:12:27,870 Mr. Parker-Vitch? 227 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:28,210 Yes. 228 00:12:28,390 --> 00:12:29,050 Mr. Tiedemann? 229 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:29,430 Yes. 230 00:12:29,630 --> 00:12:30,150 Mr. Varga? 231 00:12:30,390 --> 00:12:31,230 Mr. Zoology? 232 00:12:31,570 --> 00:12:31,730 Yes. 233 00:12:31,930 --> 00:12:32,510 Mr. Haddon? 234 00:12:32,670 --> 00:12:32,830 Yes. 235 00:12:33,010 --> 00:12:33,590 Mr. O'Donnell? 236 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:33,930 Yes. 237 00:12:34,050 --> 00:12:34,450 Mr. Parker. 238 00:12:35,050 --> 00:12:35,310 Yes. 239 00:12:36,050 --> 00:12:36,530 Congratulations. 240 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:37,350 Thank you. 241 00:12:37,450 --> 00:12:38,030 Thank you, guys. 242 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:38,850 Good luck. 243 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:41,580 All right. 244 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:49,020 Next, under Old Business, we have a conditional use permit to allow trailer sales at 5,700-Hisley 245 00:12:49,020 --> 00:12:49,320 Road. 246 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,800 We have a motion to remove this from the table. 247 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:53,200 So moved? 248 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Second. 249 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Jackie, call the roll, please. 250 00:12:55,700 --> 00:12:56,300 Mr. Parker-Vitch? 251 00:12:56,300 --> 00:13:05,320 Yes, Mr. T. Dupin. Yes, Mr. Varga. Yes, Mr. Zalewski. Yes, Mr. Hadan. Yes, Mr. O'Donnell. Yes, Mr. Parker. Yes, is that applicant here? 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,260 Come on up and give us your name and address for the record, please. 253 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:26,440 I know you're coming back and I know you've had some discussions with the administration, 254 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,100 but a little bit about what you guys decided you're going to do there. 255 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:35,680 I mean, we've basically taken the same idea that we did before as just a matter I think right now in the grassy dress. 256 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:37,340 Okay. 257 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:41,620 Kathy, anything from the administration on this? 258 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:42,460 I'm 259 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,940 happy to answer any questions. 260 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,900 I think we did meet with the applicant and his architect. 261 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,860 We had the engineer representatives of the engineering department there as well as the 262 00:13:57,860 --> 00:14:01,660 planning department and the assistant city manager. 263 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,980 We did talk about the ingress and the ingress. 264 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:10,840 They provided some turning movements in the event that a semi-trailer would be coming in and 265 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:17,320 out of the site in terms of dropping off the trailers that they would like to, you know, 266 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:23,560 sell it the space. And you can see that in the diagrams that have been provided to you. 267 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:30,240 And they are showing a more detailed site plan, which is what we had requested of the proposed 268 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:37,240 location of the trailer spaces. They're showing 17 spaces. They would like to keep the existing 269 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:44,420 access drives. And so what our engineering staff did was provide what that would look 270 00:14:44,420 --> 00:14:51,080 like if those access drives were to remain in place. You can see in the staff exhibit 271 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:58,740 that Larry just put up that the access drives are still there but there would be some required 272 00:14:58,740 --> 00:14:59,980 curbing and that's 273 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,020 We have a standard for any property. So that would be something, though, that would be expected. And we have, though, that listed in the conditions. We have, particularly under item six, we've kind of outlined that. But the use itself, I mean, again, this is a conditional use review. The trailer sales, as long as it conforms to 1160105 vehicle sales would be, would be a permitted conditional use. It's just a matter of making sure that 274 00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:46,720 The site improvements are made and so there would be some additional work in coordination with the engineering department that would need to happen beyond any approvals tonight, just to make sure for success of safe traffic circulation. 275 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,400 So, happy to answer any other questions. 276 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:53,440 Thank you so much. Any questions, comments from the commission members? 277 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,220 Mr. Laga. 278 00:15:56,940 --> 00:16:08,420 This image shows the image state, the semi-truck image, and that's, you'll have multiple trailers delivered at different times, some different places, whatever. 279 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,080 That's not that your customers will be driving up and pick up trucks or something like that. 280 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:14,000 Exactly, exactly. 281 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:22,620 The only concern I have, and it's not really a big thing, but I think that there has to be adequate signage. 282 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:29,320 So that the right in and right out is something that because that is extremely congested 283 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:35,740 very busy location and even when the trucks pull out I think they got to go 284 00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:40,460 south on Heisley like the Tyler or something before they can circle. 285 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:44,340 Yeah well that's what you know I'm a truck driver myself and that's what I do yeah 286 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:48,580 because once in a while I park my truck over there and like you said there's no way 287 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:51,180 in hell, you can go north, northwest, you know, 288 00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:52,600 unless it's in the middle of the night. 289 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:53,240 Exactly. 290 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,140 So yeah, I'm with you on that. 291 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:59,620 The only thing is I'm not really going to do 292 00:16:59,620 --> 00:17:03,300 is put the curves in, maybe the proper signage 293 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,140 when you go north and, you know, 294 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:08,320 the traffic would be going north, right? 295 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:09,980 And they want to make a left hand turn, 296 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,180 make appropriate signage not to enter the property. 297 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:20,180 Because the second you narrow the entrances, I don't think it's going to help. 298 00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:24,720 These people, they're going to do it anyhow. 299 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:30,240 But with the proper signage and maybe put, you know, like some of the signage says police order. 300 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Do not enter. It is. 301 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:32,480 Exactly. 302 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Well, I think this sign, among compared to a lot of other ones, the signage is going to have to be very effective. 303 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:47,540 Because if people, I mean, you have to, we know what people will do left of their own devices. 304 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,860 And this is, you know, the traffic coming off the freeway, they've got a green light. 305 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:57,140 They're going past this at 45 miles an hour. Easy, you know. 306 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,380 If somebody's trying to cut across from going north and trying to slip in here. 307 00:18:02,380 --> 00:18:10,220 And part of our responsibility is to be safe about the things we approve. 308 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:15,220 And I just think that the signage is going to have, we may have to step the signage up above 309 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:19,600 what we normally do to make sure people aren't trying to cut in there going north. 310 00:18:21,780 --> 00:18:25,400 And to make it very clear that it's only right in and right out. 311 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:31,780 And that once you come out, you can't shoot across five lanes of traffic if you want to go 312 00:18:31,780 --> 00:18:32,960 in the Diamond Center, you know. 313 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,780 You have to keep going south until if you're in a car, 314 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,540 you can make a reasonable adjustment. 315 00:18:39,260 --> 00:18:41,160 If you're in a semi, you just gotta go down the 316 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,280 tiling or over because there's no place to turn around 317 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,240 and I don't wanna see people doing new turns 318 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,980 in the middle of in front of this place. 319 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:53,940 This will be a disaster if people start driving the road. 320 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,040 Nothing against your business, I'm sure I get it. 321 00:18:57,340 --> 00:19:00,600 But I probably get more visitors right now that I will 322 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,020 with the trailers to be honest with you. 323 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,620 I mean, people stopping in there 324 00:19:04,620 --> 00:19:05,920 to do their own private business, 325 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,100 you believe it or not, in the middle of the parking lot. 326 00:19:08,980 --> 00:19:11,700 So I mean, you know, if I sell trailers, 327 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:15,820 I'm going to bring in only the trailer people that want to buy 328 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:17,280 and how many trailers I'm going to sell, 329 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,320 I'm probably not going to sell 10 trailers a day. 330 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,420 My concern is only safety out on, on high-as-ly rent 331 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,620 with people, you know, following the directions, 332 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,740 yeah, following the right and right out. 333 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,400 If we need to take the sign, 334 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:40,140 And it's even one step higher than we normally do just to make sure that we have a safe condition there because if it's not, you know, if it gets out of control, it's, that's not a location. 335 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,980 I want to see cars doing 336 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:47,080 new turns in the middle of the road, you know. 337 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:51,400 Anything else? 338 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,920 No, that's my only, that's my biggest concern. 339 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:56,960 Anyone else, questions or comments? 340 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:57,980 Mr. Chairman? 341 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,540 I wasn't here last time you were here, so I do have a couple questions. 342 00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:04,880 You originally approved for a repair shop. 343 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:05,180 Yes. 344 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,120 Did you ever open that? 345 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,440 No. 346 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:07,300 Okay. 347 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,720 When the person that was here in February said all the equipment was installed, it was in the trailers 348 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,900 getting put in, so we decided not to do that. 349 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:21,440 Yeah, I mean, it still is, like a lot more of lift has installed, the tire balancer, the tire 350 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,300 machine is still there, but I'm just curious, you know, going from fixing cars to selling trailers. 351 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:33,340 Well, the guy that I was supposed to go in, you kind of turn a different direction so that's why it's and I was out there today 352 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:40,160 And there are seven unlicensed cars sitting there vehicles. Yeah, why do we have so many unlicensed cars by personal vehicles? 353 00:20:41,020 --> 00:20:49,320 No license plates. Yeah, okay. It doesn't look nice. It's it's and then you got a semi there. You're storing your semi there. Yeah, okay 354 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,300 Again, it doesn't look nice. 355 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:52,060 That's got to get cleaned up. 356 00:20:52,620 --> 00:20:54,460 Parking lot, the asphalt, a mess. 357 00:20:55,820 --> 00:20:57,940 I think we need to add something in there 358 00:20:57,940 --> 00:20:58,820 to get that cleaned up. 359 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:02,600 And I also think we need to add a time frame 360 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,780 into the conditions that things get done 361 00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:07,200 by a certain time, whatever date we think is appropriate. 362 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,300 So, you broke a lot of the conditions 363 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:13,480 of the original CUP, so I'm concerned here. 364 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:14,460 And so. 365 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:17,060 Well, I mean, the building is empty, how long? 366 00:21:17,980 --> 00:21:24,720 Yeah, I mean, that's fine the homeless people were living. How long it was good? Okay. I mean, I'm just saying right. I understand 367 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:31,920 But you have to feel me because I pay with my own money and now you guys want this you guys want this and that's okay 368 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:39,080 But I can do so much and you were okay with the building be sitting there empty with the busted-out windows 369 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:41,280 homeless people living there 370 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:49,320 the same homeless people were going to the neighboring stores stealing clothing and bringing it into the sheds and sleeping there. 371 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:52,660 Well, nobody wants to turn up the place. 372 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:58,060 I understand, but nobody wants, when conditions are put on a business, they're supposed to follow them. 373 00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:59,540 And that's my concern here. 374 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,360 So, that's it. Thank you. 375 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,380 Anything else from the commission members? 376 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,300 Mr. Chairman. 377 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:06,200 Yes. 378 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,660 The question about the parking, there's going to be two handicap and 379 00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:18,360 in two spots for visitors, or for buyers. 380 00:22:20,620 --> 00:22:23,220 There's four spots in front of the building. 381 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:25,760 Is one handicap or two handicap? 382 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,840 I think it's one. 383 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:27,260 Yeah. 384 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:27,980 Just one. 385 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:34,060 So you've got three, four potential vials and four of the employees, which is probably just one or two people. 386 00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:35,560 Yeah, that's going to be me. 387 00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:37,320 Yes, that's sufficient. 388 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:38,520 Okay. 389 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,680 Any other question I have is about the Sheds. 390 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,060 They're all the property? 391 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,860 Yeah, they're gone. 392 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,940 Because like I said, I tried to clean up the place. 393 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,000 The one shed was falling off. 394 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:52,700 I mean, on its side, 395 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:54,540 the other one was plastic. 396 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,780 It was tossed around by wind or whatnot. 397 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,620 And there was homeless people living in there. 398 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:00,300 Okay. 399 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,240 Well, it just shows Sheds. 400 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,820 No, those are gone. 401 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:07,080 Thank you. Any other questions, comments? 402 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:16,460 Yes, I just wanted to say with Jeff making sure that the signage was adequate, I think 403 00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:21,760 that is very important, but I think this business is kind of the best at this site. It's 404 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,920 a very low impact. You imagine if it was the Taco Bell we'd have the things that Jeff talks 405 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:34,260 about happening on every minute, but I think in general this would be one of the businesses 406 00:23:34,260 --> 00:23:38,560 that we would like to see in this spot, which is very low impact, so I think that sort 407 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:38,860 of helps. 408 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:39,900 Thank you. 409 00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:41,260 Thank you. 410 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,160 Do we want to add any of the conditions that Mr. Tiedem mentioned that do we want to add 411 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,740 an additional conditions beyond the 10? 412 00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:55,060 Do we think a timeframe is appropriate or it's really up to the rest of you. 413 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:55,580 It's us. 414 00:23:55,580 --> 00:24:01,460 I guess we can ask the administration and the law director if they would like that. 415 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:03,620 I'm sorry, we were talking about that. 416 00:24:03,620 --> 00:24:04,060 That's a question. 417 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:08,200 Would you like some type of time frame to have these conditions met? 418 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,940 You can institute time frames. 419 00:24:10,940 --> 00:24:14,740 I would caution you to be careful and judicious with that. 420 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:16,480 It's not. 421 00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:18,160 It's up to the commission. 422 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,060 I'd be interested to hear what your time frame is for. 423 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:21,720 It's fall, winter's coming. 424 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:23,560 We know that's going to slow everything down. 425 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,780 So, I was thinking next spring at some point, right? 426 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Or, no, it didn't put it to a full year. 427 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,420 But I needed to be able to do, if you wanted to do something. 428 00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:33,800 I mean, you also have comments like, yeah, I mean, that's fine. 429 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:36,420 Mr. Bagga. 430 00:24:38,380 --> 00:24:44,000 Just maybe a modification of one of the, we know you're going to have trailers there. 431 00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:51,320 And there's a number five, it says there shall be no vehicles other than the approved trailers offered for sale or so. 432 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,000 So, I also don't want to see vehicles stored there, other than the trailers. 433 00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:57,420 I get it. 434 00:24:57,580 --> 00:24:57,700 Okay. 435 00:24:57,980 --> 00:24:58,780 It's just right now. 436 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,540 No, I'm not talking about it. 437 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:00,900 I'm not talking about it. 438 00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:01,600 I'm talking about it. 439 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:12,980 When you're operating, I would want to add no vehicles for sale or to sold from the site or for storage. 440 00:25:17,050 --> 00:25:17,730 Mr. Chairman. 441 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:18,830 Yes. 442 00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:22,610 If I may, I think it's important to note that the COP is going to expire in six months. 443 00:25:22,610 --> 00:25:30,530 So, the idea of the time frame, not always the best approach, but it's up to the commission. 444 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:31,590 That's fine. 445 00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:33,350 Probably unnecessary at the time. 446 00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:33,670 Correct. 447 00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:34,250 I agree. 448 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:34,590 Okay. 449 00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:37,150 Anything else? 450 00:25:37,790 --> 00:25:38,830 Just for clarification. 451 00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:40,170 Item number six. 452 00:25:40,410 --> 00:25:44,230 So, the applicant's going to work with the engineering department as far as how those write 453 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:47,230 and then write out are going to be configured and worked out. 454 00:25:49,050 --> 00:25:58,130 Absolutely, I think that's why we were a specific as we were because of the engineering department wanting to make sure that some more things were put in place. 455 00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:09,350 I know Mr. Varga kept mentioning signage, but the signage actually has to comply with the Ohio manual for signage, so it can't just be any type of signage. 456 00:26:09,670 --> 00:26:13,870 So I want to emphasize that there are some very specific points here that still need to be met. 457 00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:22,130 that and the applicant would need to work with the engineering department on getting that done, and that does include the curbing. 458 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:29,950 And that would be my next question, and my point, so I think we're pretty much all on board with all of these conditions. 459 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:35,450 I know the administration and the engineering department has worked very diligently with you to try to get to this point. 460 00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:42,170 Are you okay with all of these conditions, including condition number six, that talks about right in and 461 00:26:42,170 --> 00:26:44,590 right out required curbing pavement markings. 462 00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:47,590 That is something that the city's gonna require you to do. 463 00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:48,450 And I think that- 464 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:49,870 I'm okay with the signage. 465 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:53,070 I'm okay with like a, you know, on the pavement itself. 466 00:26:53,910 --> 00:26:55,390 I'm not sure because like I said, 467 00:26:55,450 --> 00:26:56,730 I'm experienced drug driver. 468 00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:02,270 And I've seen numerous places where they are held 469 00:27:02,270 --> 00:27:03,110 to get in and out. 470 00:27:03,610 --> 00:27:05,670 Let's say now you make these curbs, you know, 471 00:27:05,770 --> 00:27:07,490 like the engross and egress like that. 472 00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:10,150 Now the person misses the first entrance. 473 00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:18,700 He can always get the second when now you got one car off the road with the signage, you can still control the same way. 474 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:25,860 I appreciate your perspective, but I would have to defer to the engineering department and what they'd want to do when they want to see that. 475 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,220 Yeah, I'm willing to worry, yeah. 476 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:38,620 Okay, so as long as you're willing to do that, I think, yeah, I just don't want to be, you know, a $300,000 place to turn out to be $10 million investment just because of changes to the ingress. 477 00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:40,580 I understand that there are costs to it, absolutely. 478 00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:45,920 Any other questions, comments for the commission members? 479 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:47,900 All right. 480 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,680 With that, I'll entertain a motion. 481 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Motion for approval with ten provisions. 482 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,760 It's our own business item. 483 00:27:57,220 --> 00:28:00,960 Conditions, the... 484 00:28:01,330 --> 00:28:02,500 Number five. 485 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:04,660 To add any vehicles. 486 00:28:04,660 --> 00:28:12,340 vehicles. No, yeah, right. Any vehicles plus with the for sale or sold or any vehicles 487 00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:14,560 to be stored on the property. 488 00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:19,930 Dr. Varga, can you clarify that again for the record? 489 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:28,270 Okay. It says number five. I'll get my glasses on here. No way here. There shall be no 490 00:28:28,270 --> 00:28:37,170 vehicles other than approved trailers offered for sale or sold from the site or store 491 00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:38,850 forward on the property. 492 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:52,200 So besides having the sale of the profit for sale or sold no other vehicle shall be stored. 493 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:54,480 We have a second. 494 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:55,500 Second. 495 00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,340 Jackie, call the roll, please. 496 00:28:58,740 --> 00:28:59,500 Mr. Parker, Vich. 497 00:28:59,760 --> 00:28:59,940 Yes. 498 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:01,500 Mr. Tina Men. 499 00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:02,060 Yes. 500 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:03,360 Mr. Varga. 501 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:03,800 Yes. 502 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,740 Mr. Zalewski. 503 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,160 Yes. 504 00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:05,780 Mr. Heather. 505 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,280 Yes. 506 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Mr. Ronaldo. 507 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:07,560 Yes. 508 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,140 Mr. Parker. 509 00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:10,200 Yes, congratulations. 510 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,190 Thank you. 511 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:13,480 All right. 512 00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:15,080 Director's report. 513 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,060 Do we have anything from you, Kathy? 514 00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:18,380 Nothing to report. 515 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:18,820 Thank you. 516 00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:21,200 I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. 517 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:22,460 Don't move. 518 00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:22,960 Second. 519 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:24,540 We are adjourned.