I'd like to call the regular meeting of our city council July 5th, 2022 to order. The
invocation will be given by Councilman Kircher. Heavenly Father, we thank you
for this day. Help us to use good judgment for the business at hand and guide us in
wisdom with a continuing sense of truth and fairness for the community we
represent.
Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Here.
Mr. Krieger.
Here.
Mr. Barnard.
Here.
Mr. Blake.
Here.
Mr. Donovan.
Here.
Mrs. Dowling.
Here.
Mr. Freeman.
Here.
Council, you're in receipt of the minutes of June 21st, 2022 work session.
Moved to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Marron?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
Mrs. Dowling?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
I'm staying.
We are also in receipt of the June 21st, 2022 regular meeting.
Council, moved to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner?
Yes.
Mr. Krueger.
Oksane.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Staling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Mr. President.
If I could, I'd move to strike my yes on my minutes for the minutes because I was absent.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
Council, we do have a public hearing.
This public hearing is now called to order and being held pursuant to notice,
duly published and posted according to the law.
Julie, could you please read that ordinance?
in ordinance approving and adopting the tax budget of the city of men are Ohio
for the fiscal year commencing January 1st 2023 and submitting same to the
county auditor and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Filippiak, yes, thank you Mr. President, Mr. Malinowski, please.
Thank you Mr. Filippiak, members of council, this is the hearing for the
subsequent ordinance on the agenda. It is the proposed 2023 tax budget for
the city city that is for property tax collections the estimated revenue totals
little over 7.2 million dollars of which 2.1 million it comes from our fire
levy that's the necessary step for the high-rise code and this will be
certified to the county auditor upon your approval I recommend approval thank
you thank you mr. Mount I'll see anybody want to speak in favor or
against. We have none. Uh, this public hearing is closed. Uh,
table legislation, we have none. New legislation ordinance
number 22 dash O dash zero five zero. An ordinance approving
and adopting the tax budget of the city of men or Ohio for
the fiscal year commencing January one twenty twenty
three and submitting same to the county auditor and
declaring an emergency of this has been second. Julie, please
Call the roll.
Yes.
Mr. Krueger.
Yes.
Mr. Marr.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Stalling.
Yes.
Move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Krusner.
Yes.
Mr. Krueger.
Yes.
Mr. Marr.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Mr. Stalling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
That's 25 bucks. Ordinance number 22-0-0-5-0 has passed. Ordinance number 22-0-0-5-1.
Sort of about that.
An ordinance to authorize advances of funds and revisions to appropriations and declaring an emergency.
Counsel?
Mr. Flippiak, do you have anything on that?
I'm sorry.
Yes, Mr. Malinowski, please.
Thank you, Mr. Fulibac. This ordinance does two things. Firstly, it advances a little
over $3.3 million out of the city's general fund for the necessary funding needed on the
listed staff memo, primarily capital project ones and grant funds. And then secondly, there
are several appropriation revisions that include various funds, including our general
Fund, and you'll see subsequent ordinances for capital projects that are subject to your
approval. I would recommend approval of the entire ordinance. Thank you.
Council. Move to suspend.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Mr. Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Marn?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
Mr. Dowling?
Yes.
Mr. Freeman?
Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-051 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-052.
An ordinance determining to proceed with the improvement of streets here and after
mentioned within the termini designated by supplying such streets with electric street
lighting and declaring emergency.
Is there a flip-yack?
Anything?
Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Malinowski, please.
Thank you, Mr. Philippiak. Members of the Council, the next two ordinances, this one
firstly determines the necessity to proceed with the street lighting and the only attachment
are the streets themselves that benefit from the overall street lighting.
The subsequent ordinance to this is the ordinance to assess and certify those dollar amounts,
which totaled about 1.6 plus million dollars for 2023. I would recommend approval. Thank
you. Council, mood to suspend. Second.
Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Cursor. Yes.
Mr. Krieger. Yes.
Mr. Marn. Yes.
Mr. Blake. Yes.
Mr. Donovan. Yes.
Mrs. Dowling. Yes.
Mr. Freeman. Yes.
Mood to approve. Second.
Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Cursor.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger. Yes.
Mr. Marn. No.
Mr. Blake. Yes.
Mr. Donovan. Yes.
Mrs. Dowling. Yes.
Mr. Freeman. Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-052 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-053.
An ordinance to levy assessments for the improvement of various streets in the city of Menor
by supplying said streets with electric street lighting and declaring emergency.
Mr. Flippiak saying.
Move to suspend.
Thank you.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Donovan. Yes. Mr. Stalin. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Move to approve. Second.
Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Kirchner. Yes. Mr. Krieger. Yes. Mr. Marn. No. Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr.
Donovan. Yes. Mr. Stalin. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Ordinance number 22-0-053 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-054. An ordinance approving the vacation of a roadway easement
upon permanent parcel number 16B063A000150 and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I will defer to Mr. Zeman, and we can supplement any comments he might have on easement.
Yes, thank you, Mr. President, members of council.
The administration was approached by Polychem Corporation.
They are entering into a purchase leaseback for their property here in Mentor.
Basically, it's just fundamentally to get out of the business of property ownership,
free up some capital, and it's a financing mechanism.
So it's an investor looking to acquire it, and then in Polychem, now known as Greenbridge,
would do about a 15-year lease.
When they were doing the title work, they saw this 10-foot highway easement.
As near as we can figure out, and Mr. Swigger and Ms. Mitchell spent a lot of time on
this issue as well.
Well, when Old Highsley Road was vacated, that 10-foot-wide easement, which was part
of that subdivision that was approved, was retained.
And it's kind of speculative that it may have been purposefully retained, because in addition
to some utility lines running through there, the city does have a stormwater line in
that approximate easement area as well.
What's been indicated by the broker for the property is that the purchaser has considerable
problems with the fact that that is still a highway easement, and obviously the city
then has surface rights.
And while, no, the city's probably not likely to build a 10-foot-wide roadway through
there, nonetheless the fact that it could happen is material to the transaction.
So what Polychem has asked is that highway easements specifically be vacated.
That will not affect any of the easements that would arise by operation of law for any other lines that run through there.
However, we do need an easement to grant it to the city to maintain that stormwater line that runs through there.
We've already submitted a draft easement to the city, and so that's under review, so we're pretty far along on that process.
So ultimately what the city is really giving up is any surface rights to construct an improved surface in this 10-foot wide area.
I think the administration obviously has taken a position as to whether or not there's any public need for it.
I won't comment on that.
I am told that however by the broker that at this time sensitive, the purchaser is obviously concerned with increasing interest rates
and how that may affect financing for this acquisition.
So, if council is amenable to this roadway vacation on behalf of the property owner via
their broker, council was encouraged to suspend and pass tonight, unless there are any issues.
Thank you, sir.
We'll flip back.
Anything else?
Yeah, just to add to that, we did take a hard look at this, and we foresee no future
need to have any highway easement through there.
We're maintaining an easement for our stormwater line, and that's sufficient.
Thank you.
Council, move to suspend.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Stowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Who do approve?
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
This is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-054 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-055.
An ordinance awarding and authorizing the city manager to enter into a bid contract with Union Industrial Contractors Inc.
for the construction of a Menor Marsh public access project phase 1 and 2 and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak?
Thank you, Mr. Reza.
Mr. Sviggur, please.
Thank you, Mr. Flippiak.
Mr. President and members of council, bids were opened on Friday, June 17th for the Mentor
Marsh Public Access Project phases one and two.
The project will reconstruct an ADA-accessible observation deck and connecting boardwalk
along the edge of the Mentor Marsh at the Mentor Lagoon's Nature Preserve and Marina
that will be available to all visitors.
Approximately 515 lineal feet of timber boardwalk with composite decking,
eight feet in width will be constructed with the project. The bid summary reviewed by this
office is attached. Only one bid was received for the project in the amount of $477,246.
The engineer's opinion of probable construction cost was $435,000. Funding for the project
will be aided by a grant from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources in the amount of $233,403.
This contract does not include materials for lumber, composite decking or fabricated steel
support members because those items were included in previous bids and will be provided by the
city.
The low bid was received from Union Industrial Contractors of Ashtabula, Ohio.
This bid was found to be in conformance with all contract requirements.
It's therefore recommended that the contract be awarded to Union Industrial Contractors
in the amount of $477,246.
dollars and the scheduled project completion date is October 30th.
Thank you, Mr. Philpiaff.
Yeah, Mr. President and members of council, I did want to point out that I think we're
excited to be able to move forward on phases one and two here.
We expect obviously this contract should be completed by the end of the year.
We've already started to receive some of the building materials.
The nice thing about it is that it folds in nicely with the award that we receive
through the state capital grant for $450,000 for phase three of this.
So yet this year we'll be bringing you a contract for the design of the observation tower,
which is the last phase of this project, which hopefully we can budget for 2023 and have this entire project wrapped up by the end of next year.
So the timing of this is very nice at this point.
Thank you, sir.
Council, move to suspend.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kerström.
Yes.
Mr. Krueger.
Yes.
Mr. Marne.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Stalling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes. Who do approve? Second. Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kershner? Yes.
Mr. Krieger? Yes.
Mr. Marn? Yes.
Mr. Blake? Yes.
Mr. Donovan? Yes.
Mrs. Dowling? Yes. Mr. Freeman? Yes.
Ordinance summer 22-0-055 is approved. Ordinance summer 22-0-056.
An ordinance authorizing the city manager to award a bid contract to Raniak Paving, Inc.
for the Forest Road Woodridge Lane resurfacing project and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Yes, Mr. President.
And I know that I was there at a time.
I was.
I was happy about this.
This is the last phase of our Headlands Road project.
Again, it's been a great success and congratulations to Mr. Swigger and his staff for providing
putting together some very, very competitive grants
over the last seven, eight years now,
which have brought millions in for this project overall.
So Mr. Swigga, you wanna tell us about the last bit here?
We'll do, thank you, sir.
Bids are opened on Friday, June 10th
for the Forest Road Woodridge Lane resurfacing project.
The project will provide curb repair,
full depth pavement repairs in an asphalt overlay,
a forest road from Lake Overlook to Woodridge and Woodridge Lane from Forest Road to Corridory Road.
The four bids received for the project range from a low bid of $610,499 to a high bid of $681,898.
It's been determined that Ronjac Paving, Incorporated of Burton, Ohio, submitted the lowest bid of $610,499.
The project is expected to receive a $135,000 grant and $150,000 loan from the Ohio Public
Works Commission.
The engineer's opinion of probable construction...
Motion cost for the project was $560,000. Due to the current state of the economy and
heightened fuel prices, the majority of the price increase dealt with material cost increases
to asphalt and concrete curbing. Asphalt prices are currently approximately one-and-a-half
times what was awarded on the January 2022 road program bid. Per discussions with ODOT
prices are expected to increase further through the remainder of 2022 and early 2023. While
The project came in 9% higher than the engineer's estimate, and the award is still recommended
as any rebid would like to return higher bids.
A review of the bid from Runyak Paving indicates its conformance with all contract requirements.
It's therefore recommended that a contracting amount of $610,499 be awarded to Runyak Paving.
Scheduled completion date for the project is November 15, 2022.
Thanks, Mr. Swigard.
That was a great job you did on that, too.
Appreciate it.
Council, move to suspend.
I mean, second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kershner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Mann.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Daing.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Move to approve.
Second?
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kershner.
Yes, Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Mann.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovin.
Yes.
Mr. Daing, yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Ordinance upper 22-0-056 is approved.
Ordinance upper 22-0-057.
An ordinance authorizing the City Manager to award a bid contract to ANJ Cement Contractors
Inc. for the Market Street Rehab and Resurfacing Project and Declaring an Emergency.
Dr. Flippiak.
Thank you, Mr. President.
And I'll turn this over to Mr. Swig at a moment, but Council is aware that Market
Street has been a challenge for us.
About 10 years ago, we decided to go with an asphalt overlay of that street to try
to buy us some time, and it bought us a decade, which was great, but this is
really a significant rebuild, which we do have the aid of almost $300,000 in OPWC grant
money. So predominantly, nearly all of Market Street will be reconstructed. Mr. Swigger.
Thank you, Mr. Philippiak. Vids were open on Friday, June 10 for the Market Street
rehab and resurfacing project. The project will provide full-depth concrete joint repairs
in an asphalt overlay of Market Street from Munson Road to approximately the Pediatric
Dental Office.
Joint repairs will tie the existing concrete slabs together with steel dowels to provide
an extended pavement life.
The big package consisted of a base bid and no bid alternates.
The four bids received for the base bid ranged from a low of $1,085,000 to approximately
$253,000 or $1,253,000.
It's been determined that A&J cement contractors of Euclid, Ohio submitted the lowest total
bid of $1,085,270.
Project is expected to receive a $288,500 grant and $150,000 loan from the High Public
Works Commission.
The engineer's opinion of probable construction costs for the project was $840,000.
While the project came in approximately 29% higher than the engineer's estimate,
It is once again also recommended to award the bid as any rebid would be expected to come in higher at this point
Review of the bid from AJ cement contractors and indicates its conformance with all contract requirements
Therefore recommended to award a contract to AJ cement contractors
Scheduled final completion date for the project is November 15th of this year. Thank you. Thank you mr. Sorter council. Who just has been
Second
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Martin.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Mrs. Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Mr. President.
Real quick.
Mr. Martin.
Mr. Piggyback.
Mr. Swigger's comments.
So basically the overall project came in $200,000 more, which took out basically two thirds
of our grant.
So when we applied for the grant, because the grant was 288, so when we applied for
the grant, is there a way if we decided to not accept this bid and re-bid that
that we could go back and re-grant, so to speak?
No, it's an OPWC project.
So we were awarded funding in that last round.
That round is committed.
So if we would reject the project at this point,
that money would go to another project
that didn't score as highly as ours and be funded.
First, now we could apply in a future year for the project.
But again, as Mr. Sorgher pointed out,
you're probably looking at even higher prices. We've talked to a lot of people
in the industry and then colleagues in other cities. No one expand ODOT who no
one really expects these prices to start to decline for at least a couple of years.
We'll see how that goes. So the one thing that's interesting about this
project one thing to keep in mind too is that that engineers estimate is pretty
early on in our planning process. So when we're competing for these OPWC grants,
you know, you're many six, eight months or longer ago. Yeah. So this estimate is
probably close to a year old. So it really, because it coincides with our
original application to OPWC. So it's a stale estimate and so it's
probably not too far outside of, it's clearly not outside of the present market conditions.
The interesting thing about this is that there's a lot of cement work related to this project,
and we haven't really seen significant increases in concrete work, but we're starting to now.
And I think most of that's probably the labor component.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
Move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krueger.
Yes.
Mr. Marr.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-5-7 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-5-8.
And ordinance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Northern flooring
specialists for the purchase and installation of flooring at the Menor Recreation Center
and declaring an emergency.
Are we flip yet?
Thank you, Mr. President, members of Council. I'm going to turn this over to Mr. Schweikert
who put this bid together, but I'm Mr. Kaminski's happy to answer any questions about any of
the areas. And I know most of Council had a chance to do a walkthrough, so you're familiar
with the areas that need change in flooring. So Mr. Schweikert.
A significant component of the upgrade for the minimum recreation center is the replacement
of floor tile and carpeting throughout the facility. This project will include
the installation of approximately 10,000 square feet of vinyl planking, 3,400 square feet
of ceramic tile, and 3,500 square feet of carpet. All or most of the removal of the
existing tile and carpet will be performed by city forces. My recommendation that the
city enter into a contract with Northern flooring specialists for the purchase and installation
of those materials described in the attached proposal. Total cost of this project will
be $126,047.06. Northern flooring specialist has a contract under the state of Ohio State
Term Schedule Purchasing Program, and they have successfully performed several projects
for the city in the past. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Schweiker.
Council, move to spin.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marr.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Stallings.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kursner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Stallings.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Ordinance over 22-0-058 is approved.
Ordinance over 22-0-059.
An ordinance approving and authorizing the city manager to execute an amendment to
a labor agreement on behalf of the City of Mentor with the Mentor Part-Time Firefighters
Association and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Thank you, Mr. President.
The City is that we're, the administration is very happy to finally reach agreement
with our part-time firefighters over their most recent collective bargaining agreement.
As Council is aware, they are one year set off from our full-time employees.
So I will turn it over to Chief Searles to offer any highlights here.
Thank you, Mr. Flipak. Mr. President, as the manager reported in his staff report, we had very good discussions with our part-time union, and we were able to restructure or put paid classification to allow us to be more competitive in the area.
You know, one thing that I want to highlight because it's new in our contract is we were able to distinguish between the EMT rate and the firefighter paramedic rate.
And I also want to share with you that the average part-time wage for an experienced firefighter
paramedic in Lake County was $23.75 an hour with the average in Lake Juga and Eastern Cuyahoga
County being at $24.76 an hour.
So this proposal, the numbers outlined in the contract in the staff report places us
where we need to be to be more competitive in the area.
And we also offered an incentive to our part-timers who work $1,900 a year.
They'll receive $1,000 where it equates to 53 cents an hour, capped at 1,000.
And that just gives them a little bit incentive to pull some more time, which is in the
best interest of the city.
So we highly recommend this.
I want to thank Union President Piazza for working so well with administrations,
and I'll try to answer any questions you have.
Thank you. Thank you chief. Mr. Flip yet. Yeah council. This has been approved by by the union
Excellent mood to suspend second
Please call the roll. Mr. Kirchner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Marne. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mr.
Staling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, moved to approve second Julie. Please call the roll. Mr. Kirchner. Yes, Mr. Krieger
Yes, Mr. Marne. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mr. Staling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes
Ordinance over 22-0-059 is approved.
Ordinance over 22-0-060.
In ordinance amending Part 1 Title 5, Section 151.13 of the Codified Ordinances of the City
Amendment or 2006 as amended, the same related to compensation for employees
authorizing the City Manager to increase compensation for non-bargaining unit personnel
pursuant to section 151.16 and declaring an emergency.
Mr. President, Councilman Trager, or Kershner, sorry.
I would move that we move to adjourn into executive session to consider the compensation
of a city official and further, under real estate, I move to adjourn into executive
session to consider the purchase of property for public purposes and for the reason
that the premature disclosure of information will give an unfair bargaining advantage
to private interest at first to the general public interest.
Thank you, sir.
I will say exactly what Ray said.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Stowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
For the public, we are going into executive session and we will be back when we are done.
Thank you.
You
Yes, Mr. President, I would move to amend. Take a roll call. Roll call. Oh, I'm sorry. Back in the session. Let's go.
Ray, move to go back in the regular council session. Second. Thank you, Julie. Please call the roll.
Mr. Personner? Yes. Mr. Krieger? Yes. Mr. Marn? Yes. Mr. Blake? Yes. Mr. Donovan? Yes. Mr. Dalling? Yes. Mr. Freeman? Yes.
Mr. President, I would move to amend the ordinance to include the bi-weekly pay of the city manager to
ones.
Okay, thank you.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marron.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-060 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-061.
An ordinance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with Design to
wellness LLC for the purchase and installation of exercise and related equipment at the Recreation
Center under the State of Ohio Cooperative Purchasing Program and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. Kaminski, please.
Thank you, Mr. Flippiak, members of council.
The Parks and Recreation Department is recommending the purchase, delivery, and installation
of some new fitness equipment for the Menor Recreation Center.
This replacement program is replacing some of the equipment that was part of the
purchase of the Recreation Center.
We had the equipment inspected by two independent sources and they agreed that some of the older
equipment has reached its life expectancy and some other equipment, the replacement parts
are obsolete.
Designed to Wellness is authorized dealer of Core Health and Fitness of Lewis Center,
Ohio, whose company and equipment is based on the Ohio State bid.
It is therefore recommended that the contract be awarded to Designed to Wellness.
Thank you, Mr. Commissioner.
I'm going to have Mr. Zeeman speak on that.
Yes, counsel, there's a little bit of an asterisk.
This pricing list that the company submitted is updated.
The current price listing was approved back in September of last year.
Now the company can't honor that pricing anymore.
They're the vendor from the manufacturer.
And so they have submitted apparently the increased price list, which this ordinance
reflects to the Department of Administrative Services. That has not been accepted and published
yet, but it is reasonably anticipated that over the next few weeks that new price listing
will be approved by the state. If there's some hiccup, and it doesn't happen, then,
although you may approve this contract tonight, Council will have to be apprised
that there was some problem and that in fact the purchase can't proceed because that approved
pricing for whatever reason may not have been approved. So just be aware I guess that could
unfold over the coming weeks and if so council will be advised. If everything goes smoothly
and then their updated pricing is then obviously the contract can be executed and the purchase
move forward. Thank you.
Okay, thank you. So if we prove this we're not stuck in a situation where is there a way out of it?
Yeah, I want yeah, we won't sign the contract and and the ordinance could be repealed now
Obviously the reason it's a little cart before the horse certainly is is obviously counsel's recess and the time sensitive nature of trying to get
The the recreation center reopened on time. So ordinarily this would not be in front of counsel, but obviously the expedience
aspect of this is
is the reason that suggested to do it this way.
Thank you, Mr. Zeeman.
Mr. Krieger, Mr. Blake, I'm sorry.
Ken, does this reflect all the exercise equipment
that we're going to need?
We're making just one big bulk purchase.
That is correct, sir.
And so this combined with what's already there
and is workable and salvageable,
and we can use it going forward.
This completes that purchase, right?
Yes, completely done.
And I like the equipment that you've chosen.
I think it's got a track record of durability and people like it.
So kudos to you on that.
Thank you.
Council, I will point out, too, that there's a significant amount of the older equipment that we obviously won't be using.
We had some discussion this morning about how to make that available through auction.
So we'll have obviously we'll post that on the public auction sites online that we've done with a lot of other surplus
Equipment and we're also considering maybe having some sort of special auction at that facility because of the quantity
So there may be some opportunity for some locals to pick up. Are we close to an auction date? Is that fall?
you mentioned fall right ideally would be in the summer summer okay yes okay
you're thinking maybe next month yes okay great space we were able to work
actually that was kind of my question because you had it set aside equipment
you're gonna keep equipment you were gonna throw out an equipment you're gonna
auction off I wonder if you'd already I wasn't sure you had hadn't had the
auction yet and how that would detract from this figure of four four and
15,000 so you don't know that that is correct but it okay thank you thank you
council mr. all president I guess question for a law director so mr. Zeeman
so if this because of inflation there ain't going through the roof like every
you know gas or anything else it is if we have to go ahead and have a meeting I
mean people are on vacation would have you we could just do a zoom meeting
correctly we did during COVID if we got to get this because we cannot not get
this guy know that are all over the country yeah that that's not sure
authorization is expired it has correct we can't do that also we gotta be
face-to-face okay well we'll make it work hopefully doesn't go up right thank
you mr. modern mood to suspend second Julie please call it roll mr. Kershner
yes mr. Krieger yes mr. Marr yes mr. Blake yes Jonathan yes darling yes
Freeman yes mood to approve second Julie please call it roll mr. Kershner
mr. Krieger yes mr. Marr yes Blake yes mr. Donovan yes darling yes mr.
Freeman. Yes. Ordinance number 22-0-061 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-062, again,
what happened? Oh, no, that was 6-1, I'm sorry. This is 0-6-2, go ahead. Sorry about that.
Got mixed up. In ordinance authorizing the city manager to enter into a contract with
Burgess and Neipol Inc. for architectural and engineering services for the Menor-Marina
a kayak and concessions building project and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Thank you, Mr. President.
The city has received and reviewed the qualifications for Virgins and Naples to continue to do
architectural work.
Council is aware that they did a very good job for us with the new cemetery building.
We've had a good experience there.
And Mr. Kaminski, you want to talk a little bit about our project?
Yes.
Thank you, Mr. Flippiak, members of council.
The Parks and Recreation Department is requesting approval for professional service agreement
with Burgess and Neipolink for the architectural and engineering services to plan and design
the new kayak slash concession slash restroom building at the Metta Marina.
As Mr. Flippic had just indicated, the city administration has reviewed the professional
qualifications and we had great success with them with the cemetery building.
Based upon that review, we recommend that this contract be awarded to Burgess and Neipol
Inc. for the design, planning, and bid documents contract.
Thank you.
Mr. Foggs, to add one thing to that, it did have a meeting last week with a seat representative
from CT Consultants.
They have no conflict with this, not a conflict with their contract.
Thank you, sir.
Mr. President.
Mr. Kirchner.
Just a quick question.
I can't recall.
Did we include showers with the restrooms with this plan or no?
It wasn't –
We have not contemplated showers in there?
I wasn't sure.
But it hasn't been designed.
So if council would prefer that, it's something that we could –
Well, something that we could talk about down the line.
But I'm just glad we're doing that.
I'd like to see this probably 15 years ago when we – our hands were tied.
But now that we're finally starting to do things on it's great to see these projects going forward and with that I'll suspend
I'll second Julie. Please call the roll. Mr. Kirchner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes tomorrow. Yes, Blake. Yes to Donovan
Yes, the stalling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, we'll do a proof second Julie. Please call the roll. Mr. Kirchner
Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yeah, Mr. Martin. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, the stalling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes
Ordinance over 22 dash 0 dash 0 6 2 is approved
Ordinance number 22-0-063.
And ordinance authorizing the city manager to award a contract whose
summit painting LLC for interior painting of the Menor Recreation Center
and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Mr. President, Mr. Schweiker, please.
Thank you.
Another significant component of the upgrades to the Menor Recreation Center
is the painting and much of the building interior.
Much of this preparatory work has already been completed by city forces.
We have received three quotes for this project, which are listed here.
The short time constraint of reopening the facility did not allow for following the normal sealed bid process.
Thus creating an emergency situation.
It is my recommendation that the city manager be authorized to enter into a contract with summit painting and signs for $123,000.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Schweiker.
Council.
Moved or suspended?
Mr. Schweiker.
Just on this.
I'm a little confused on a lot of this stuff as far as the scaffolding, labor and equipment
and all that will be billed directly in addition to the total cost.
Do we have any idea what we're talking about there?
I mean, I'm surprised that the scaffolding and the lift trucks and so on aren't there
because we know it's a high building and there's going to be additional charges.
Do we have any idea what that's going to be?
Well, one of the things that we spoke about, Councilman, is if the scaffolding is
needed which we don't think it's going to be because we actually have our lifts
there. Okay. And so we would be utilizing those lifts for those types of type of
work. Okay. Thank you. You already. Second. Julie, please call the roll. Mr.
Kershner. Yes. Mr. Krieger. Yes. Mr. Marr. Yes. Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Donovan. Yes.
Mrs. Dowling. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Who do approve? Second. Julie, please
Please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Marrard?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
Mr. Dowling?
Yes.
Mr. Freeman?
Yes.
Gordon, summer 22-0-063 is approved.
Resolution number 22-R-107.
A resolution adopting the Lake County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan for the City of
Menor.
Mr. Flippiak?
Thank you, Mr. President.
Chief Serles, please.
Thank you, Mr. Flippiak.
Mr. President as you know the Lake County multi-jurisdictional hazard mitigation plan was updated this year
The city of Menor had good input into the update in adopting this resolution makes the city of Menor
Eligible for disaster mitigation funding should there ever be a need
Thank you. Thank you very much council mood to suspend the second really call the roll please Kirchner. Yes, mr.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Marn?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
Mr. Stowling?
Yes.
Mr. Freeman?
Yes.
Who do approve?
Second.
Will you call the roll please?
Mr. Kursner?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Marn?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
Mr. Stowling?
Yes.
Mr. Freeman?
Resolution number 22-R-107 is adopted.
Second readings, we have none. Third readings, we have none.
Manager's report.
Thank you, Mr. President. Council, we have an open-cut request on Reynolds Road and Belfar Road pavement
open cuts for Aqua Ohio for tying in several new water lines.
the request actually will consist of about eight open cuts to tie in new
water lines on the connecting streets. It's been reviewed extensively during the
course of the project by our engineering department and actually we're happy
that this is going forward not because they're going to cut the payment but
because it's going to improve water service to the area.
Council for the approval.
Move to suspend.
Second, Julie, please call the roll.
Move to approve.
Yeah, move to approve.
Thank you.
Mr. Kirchner.
Yes. Mr. Krieger. Yes. Mr. Moran. Yes. Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Donovan. Yes. Mrs. Dowling. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, council.
Council, I have a report that we had really no major incidents, safety-related incidents over the
Independence Day weekend overall, so we're very happy about that. The city of Manor will be
holding its third and final public meeting for the fiscal year 2022 to 2026 consolidated plan and
the fiscal year 2022 annual action plan for our community development block grant applications
that will be this Wednesday, July 6 from 3 to 4 p.m. here at the Mentor Municipal Center.
The city's fiscal year 2022 allocation from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
is $158,867.
Reminders to our public that the Dominion Hydro Testing Project began this morning.
Residents and businesses near the railroad tracks north of Jackson Street are advised
that Dominion will be performing a gas pressure hydro test project over the next few weeks
in Mentor, Painesville and Painesville Township on their distribution line that runs along
the north side of tracks. Dominion contractors began their work this morning by staging
their equipment along the north side of the railroad tracks near the Mentor dog
So we're going to be planning on keeping the dog park open.
There will be some activities in and around there.
We've made it clear to Dominion that we have every intent of keeping the dog park open.
So unless that work becomes more disruptive, that is our plan.
Those in the area may experience occasional gas smells as the pipes are bled.
The city has recently been informed by ODOT that Lakeshore Boulevard is eligible for state
fiscal year 2025 urban paving program funding.
So funds will be available July 1st of 2024.
The project costs are currently estimated at $900,000 and we could receive up to 90%
of funding for that.
It's almost a certainty that we would get 80%.
So if you're driven Lakeshore Boulevard, you know, it's starting to Lakeshore Road.
It's starting to look like it needs some help.
So we're looking to be able to have that repaved from across the entirety
of the city limits as early as 2024.
And then finally council, just a reminder that the Hedlands Beach Fest is
on Saturday, July 16th from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. at Hedlands Beach State Park.
It's free admission and parking and we want to thank our sponsors,
University Hospitals, Meyer, and Mimi Vanderhaven, and this event is going forward, rain or shine.
That's all. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Mr. President.
Mr. Maher. Underneath this portion of our meeting, I'd like to congratulate, I'm sure,
Menor City Council. I'd also like to congratulate in the City Administration.
I'm Menor Petroleum and Phil Croucher on his retirement.
Ah, yes. Congratulations, Phil.
Thank you, Mr. Maher.
Those correspondents.
Council is in receipt of a liquor permit transfer from Spiced Up Brands LLC DBA Tye Orchid at
7502 Mentor Avenue to Spiced Up Brands LLC DBA Tye Orchid at 7329 Mentor Avenue.
That is all.
Thank you.
Commissioner, committee reports we have none.
Old business?
Mr. President.
President Blake.
Yep.
Ken our large antique bungalow at Springbrook. Yes, what's our strategy with that?
Because it's it's looking it's looking weathered. Yeah, we have Mr. Joyker do you
want to give an update on that? I'm not sure. Sure, in fact I think some of the
funding that was on Mr. Melanowski's item earlier tonight was funding.
We
We've got someone lined up for that, roof repairs, we have someone lined up for that
also.
In brick repair.
Yeah.
So everything you see, right, you probably already noticed that we've removed some of
the exterior, I guess they were screening, screening hardware in the front there, which
I think looks better overall.
That large tree in the back has been removed and will be under contract very shortly
for all three of those improvements.
The idea is to just button that up
and keep it viable for future use.
That includes like restaining the shake-shingle side
because that's the worst looking part.
Yeah, it's either restaining or painting
and Mr. Vernon is working on getting some quotes on both.
Thank you.
Thank you because it's looking like it needs it.
Councilperson Dolly. Yes. Was that the $18,000 that was mentioned earlier this evening? Yes. I assume that's what it was. Good. Good to hear.
I wanted to make sure. I didn't want that to float away. Thank you. New business? Anyone? We have three persons before council. Please, when you come up, you have four minutes.
If you're on the same subject, all three people, please don't repeat.
Linda O'Brien, please come up and state your name and address for the clerk, please.
Thank you.
Is
your court?
Thank you.
I've been here just two short years, and I'd like you to know first off that I'm here
in support of the Linda Marlins, and I do not have a child or a grandchild in the program.
However I do have a 15 year experience as a certified lifeguard and I'd like to share some of those experiences with you to help you have the knowledge of how important it is to have people know how to swim.
I was certified as a lifeguard at the age of 16. In those years I rescued two drowning people.
It's hard to hear you. I think he's going to adjust it for you.
Was it?
Oh.
The recorder broke, Linda.
The recorder broke. We're going to get it fixed for you.
No, you might have done it. Yeah, it might be your fault.
We could blame you.
What'd you do to it?
Before you came back.
That's what they get, right?
Well, you had a problem with it earlier, right?
Well, there's been a problem with it on and on.
Linda, I can hear you fine.
Just talk to John.
Yeah.
I don't usually get complaints about not being heard, so this is surprising.
Mr. President?
Yes, sir.
Oh, here we go.
Problem solved.
There you go.
We got microphones.
They're going to speak right into it.
Would you like me to start over?
I think we got the first part. Thank you.
Okay, much better.
All right. So in my 15-year career as a certified lifeguard, I rescued two people from drowning.
One was a child and one was an older male. Now, as you can see from my height, you know,
this male was about this tall. And so because of my lifeguarding experience and learning
to swim the way I did to be certified, I was able to pull that man out of that pool.
I went on to be a swim instructor.
And being an instructor, you not only have the opportunity to deal with youngsters, but
you have the opportunity to deal with older teens and adults who have a great fear of
water.
And I can tell you, there was a young man who was very successful at basketball.
He towered over me.
But if I got him into three feet of water, he froze and became as stiff as a board out of fear.
And that fear just overtook him in a terrible way.
There was a doctor, a female doctor who couldn't put her face in the water
and wanted to learn to swim because her husband took up a sport of fishing
and she wanted to share it with him.
So not knowing how to swim is a real issue.
But learning how to be a lifeguard at 16 helped me in many ways.
One, it provided income for my family, which back in those days was really an important add.
It taught me great responsibility, and it contributed to my college expenses in later years
so that I could pay for my own college degree.
So those experiences went on to help me, but it also helped my community
because to prevent those two drownings was a priceless result.
As any of you can imagine, if one of your children or family members were to drown,
the experience in the heartache is dreadful.
I've only been here in Menor for two years,
but I've already heard about a number of drownings right here in our waterfront community.
I can't tell you enough, and I don't want to get overly passionate about this, but you
must support a swimming program.
It is incredible because there is no other sport that can help save lives from drowning,
and that is the most critical thing of all.
I mean basketball is great, soccer is great, hockey is great, but it won't help our water
front.
It won't give you lifeguards. It won't give our schools those letter jackets for the swim teams.
When I was out at Spire recently and the men or swim team marched out wearing their letter jackets,
those kids walked out so proudly and they were so happy with what they had achieved.
This should never be denied any of our middle school or high school students.
This should never be allowed for any community person to have the threat of drowning.
So I really implore you to consider seriously the minimal expense that is required to provide
swimming lessons for children from the age of four all the way up through high school.
Please I'm begging you because I know firsthand the pain and the fear of pulling people
out from grounding waters. Thank you so much, Linda. Your time's off. I appreciate you.
Thank you. Mr. President. Mr. Krueger. Yes, Mr. Kaminski. Don't we have a swimming program
for the City of Manor? Swimming lessons? Yes. We do currently do not have them this year.
We had them in the past prior to COVID. So no swimming program, no promoting this year?
That is correct. Okay, thank you. Because we are not, when this was all started, we did not
know how many lifeguards we are going to have to be able to operate the swim
lessons like we have in the past. Okay we want we may want to mention what we're
doing to try to get lifeguards can I think we three classes and training and
and you know I I'm not sure on all the details could you give a little bit of
what we're doing to recruit lifeguards? Sure, we've done actually
numerous things besides going out and canvassing the schools and the
local colleges, not just local colleges here as far as way as Cleveland, even
Bulling Green, Facebook, Twitter, all the social medias, the city website, the
city had classes held over at Lake Health and that turned out to be very
very successful for us. We also advanced our pay to a point to where we
we were able to attract additional guards.
And besides the pay, we also offered an incentive
that if you're able to work over 30 hours,
you're able to get a $2 hour per hour raise with that.
And it got us to a point to where we were able to open,
and we've had council work sessions regarding the poll,
but we got to a point to where we were able
to open a civic center and be able to handle
the needs that we have to be able to operate fully keeping our poll open.
Thank you, Ken.
We have another speaker, Sharon Gravis, please come up.
Give us your name and address for the clerk, please.
My name is Sharon Gravis.
I live at 9551 Remington Drive here in Munter.
I have been a Munter resident since October of 2011.
I have twin 17-year-old sons that have been part of the Mentor Marlin since the summer of 2012.
Currently, one of my sons is a first-year lifeguard.
He was recruited through the program that you discussed.
His twin brother has chosen a more lucrative summer job.
But I'd like to talk to you about Ryan and his position that he took.
Ryan took this job out of a sense of duty to his community and to his
teammates on the Mentor Marlins. He did not want to-
We're talking to that microphone, Ray. Turn that microphone a little bit. Thank you. Appreciate it.
He did not want to see this community lose a vital resource.
Something that was very important to him. And when we lost the pool and the swim team in the summer of 2020,
that was devastating for these children. And he didn't want to see that happen again.
So, in the middle of March, when he was very, very busy with AP classes and AP testing at
school, he took the YMCA lifeguard certification, passed, became employed by the city.
All of those advertisements that went out had subheadings under them, talking about
how new lifeguards could earn up to $14 an hour.
But if you go back and you look at them they really say that the rate of pay for lifeguards is $12 an hour.
The only way those new lifeguards are going to earn $14 an hour is if they work a minimum of 30 hours a week.
Well now...
Forty lifeguards have been hired at the pool. There are no available slots for those, those,
I keep wanting to say students, lifeguards to work 30 hours a week. So our community is
out there seeing these postings on social media and on the city site that these students are
getting $14 an hour, but they're not really. And what's happening is these students,
I'm a librarian, I work with college students, they're students to me.
These lifeguards are, no I lost my train of thought, they're not getting the overtime
you're saying?
Yeah, they're not getting the overtime, they're not getting the incentive.
And having worked with this generation and raising two members of this generation,
I can tell you how they think.
They saw this put out. They saw it as a promise. They saw it as an incentive. They see they're not getting that.
They're going to walk away and they're going to look for the next opportunity.
But it's going to be spun that they're lazy and entitled and they don't want to work. And that's not true.
My son wanted to help our community. He wanted to do this so that younger students could come up through this WIM program
and so that our pools would remain open and I think it's it's deceptive and I
want our community to know what's actually happening out there. The other
thing I wanted to mention. Got another minute Sharon. Thank you. Thank you. There
was in some of those postings that were listed there was talk about the
students getting reimbursed, the lifeguards getting reimbursed for their
training fees? Well, now as the mother of a lifeguard, I'm hearing differences in that.
That the only way they'll be reimbursed is if they work 25 hours a week. My son only
works 18 to 22 hours a week. That's all he's scheduled for. And if he has to work
25 hours and he's not getting scheduled for that, how will he be reimbursed?
When
that it's going to be reimbursed.
And I could be wrong.
I mean, I'm hearing things from teenagers,
so I could be wrong.
But I think it's something that needs to be looked into.
Thank you, Sharon.
Appreciate it.
Can we have Dr. Kaminski?
Vicki McDonald, please state your name and address
for the clerk, please.
Hello, I'm Vicki McDonald.
And my address is 718-0, Green Valley Drive and Mentor.
Thank you, Vicki.
In the interest of time, forgive me, I'm just going to read to you my presentation.
Good evening, Mr. President and members of council.
My name is Vicki McDonnell, as I stated, and I have been a resident of Mentor.
Since 2014, after I retired from 24 years of active duty military service,
I understand the importance of serving those who cannot help or protect themselves,
as well as the personal commitment and sacrifice required of public service,
and I thank you for yours.
I have been a volunteer parent board member of the Mentor Marlin swim team for the last seven years.
We are a small 501c3 non-profit youth recreation swim program available to kids of all ages and swim experience.
Our program helps kids develop their swim skills to become competent and confident in the water, which are important skills in our lakeside community.
Our season is eight weeks long and includes four days of practice each week and three home swim meets on Saturday mornings.
We normally pay the city to rent the pool and for the cost of the lifeguards on duty.
In the past, the most we ever paid was approximately $5,000 in 2016,
which included 40 days of practice, and each swimmer got 7.5 training hours per week,
and we hosted three regular dual swim meets.
Last year, we paid approximately $3,500 for 28 days of practice,
in which each swimmer got 6 hours of training per week,
and our swim meets were held virtually to accommodate social distancing.
This year our season is 29 days of practice.
Each swimmer is only getting five hours of training time per week,
and we will host three regular dual meets starting this Saturday.
Our current city fees are assessed at $6,679,
and our kids are getting less pool time.
The city is charging the team $1,150 to rent the pool,
as well as the maximum rate for pool manager and lifeguards.
The pool manager rate is $18 an hour, and the lifeguard rate is $16.50 per guard per hour,
regardless of what the city is actually paying them.
New guards start at $12 an hour.
The manager serves at the discretion of the Parks and Recreation Department's comfort,
and is required to unlock the front gate and check the pool chemicals.
The cost of the rent to rent the pool is arbitrary since the operating costs are already accounted for in the city's budget.
When we met in April to discuss what fees are negotiable to help keep costs effective
for mentor families, Mr. Furipiak agreed to have the manager fees removed, however the
team is still being assessed those fees.
I emailed you both two weeks ago for clarification of the results of our meeting and have yet
to receive a response, which is why I'm here tonight.
I am very concerned about the condition of our community pools and overall demise
of their aquatic programs, especially the lack of the swim lessons.
Over the last five years, the pool facilities and staff have been mismanaged to the point
where lifeguards no longer want to work for the city.
Those that do take the job this year have been deceived by the city's offer for premium
pay only to get underscheduled and refused reimbursement for their training certification
fee.
You have another minute, Vicki.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
What will happen next year if they don't return?
Pools are expensive to operate and are an inherent liability.
I understand that.
They're also incredibly important in the process of saving lives
throughout the robust swim programs.
Please understand that we are not just swim parents.
We are voters, your constituents and stakeholders.
And we feel we are losing confidence in the leadership and management
of the city and that our kids are being left behind.
We love this team and how much it helps our kids become self-disciplined, hard-working, productive adults,
and we invite you all to come to our first home swim meet this Saturday to see it for yourself.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
Can I have a, Mr. President?
Mr. Krueger?
Yes, first of all, thank you for your service.
But just a question came to mind right now.
How do we compare to our neighboring cities as far as the cost,
with Willoughby and Payneville and so on?
Yes, sir. I can provide those numbers to you. Mentor, swim team pays the most.
Right this year we have asked our registration fees to be $150 to cover all of our fees.
City fees are only a portion of what we pay to operate the team.
Most cities charge about anywhere from $60 to $100.
dollars, but they also required those swimmers to have city pool passes.
So it's probably a little bit more expensive than Mentor, but we're, I think, the only team
that does not require our members to have pool passes.
So, I mean, if the prices were better in a joining city, would you move there or?
No, but we do have swimmers that have left our team to go to other cities because of
the cost.
Okay.
All right.
We have families with multiple swimmers.
By the way, what branch were you?
Navy.
Oh, well.
Sorry.
Thank you, Vicki.
Go Navy, beat Army.
Do I have a motion?
Move to adjourn.
Second.
Thank you.