I'd like to call the regular meeting of our city council July 5, 2022 to order the invocation
will be given by Councilman Kircher. Heavenly Father, we thank thee for this day. Help
us to use good judgment for the business at hand and guide us in wisdom with a continuing
sense of truth and fairness for the community we represent.
That's it.
Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.
One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirschner.
Here.
Mr. Krieger.
Here.
Mr. Barn.
Here.
Mr. Blake.
Here.
Mr. Donovan.
Here.
Mrs. Dowling.
Here.
Mr. Freeman.
Here.
Council, you're in receipt of the minutes of June 21st, 2022 works, I should move to approve.
Second, Julie, please call the roll.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Ron?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Denovan?
Yes.
Mrs. Stallling?
Yes, Mr. Krieger.
I'm staying.
We are also in receipt of the June 21st, 2022 regular meeting.
Council, move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Hershner?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. Blake? Yes. Mr. Donovan? Yes.
Stowling? Yes. Mr. Freeman? Yes. Mr. President?
Mr. President. I'd move to strike my, yes, on my minutes, for the minutes, because I was absent. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Council, we do have a public hearing. This public hearing is now called to order and being held pursuant to notice,
duly published and posted according to the law. Julie, could you please read that ordinance?
In ordinance approving and adopting the tax budget of the city of Menor Ohio for the fiscal year commencing January 1st, 2023 and submitting same to the county auditor and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Philippiak, how would you think? Yes, thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Melonowski, please.
Thank you, Mr. Philippiak. Members of Council, this is the hearing for the subsequent ordinance on the agenda.
It is the proposed 2023 tax budget for the city.
city, that is for property tax collections.
The estimated revenue totals a little over $7.2 million of which $2.1 million comes from
our fire levy, it's the necessary step per the high rise code and this will be certified
to the county auditor upon your approval.
I recommend approval.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Mount.
I'll see anybody want to speak in favor or against?
We have none.
This public hearing is closed.
A table of legislation, we have none, new legislation, ordinance number 22-0-050.
An ordinance approving and adopting the tax budget of the City of Menor Ohio for the fiscal year commencing January 1, 2023, and submitting same to the County Auditor and declaring an emergency.
Move this to spend.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirsner, Mr. Krieger, Mr. Marn, Mr. Blake, Mr. Donovan, Mrs. Sally, Mr. Freeman.
Yes, move to a second.
Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Krosner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Marne. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes
We can see what he's
That's 25 bucks ordnance number 22 dash 0-050 has passed
ordnance number 22-0-0-0-0-5-1
Sort about that.
An ordinance to authorize advances of funds and revisions to appropriations and declaring
an emergency.
Council?
Mr. Flepiat, do you have anything on it?
I'm sorry, isn't it?
Yes, Mr. Mellon asking.
Please.
Thank you, Mr. Flepiat.
This ordinance does two things firstly.
It advances a little over $3.3 million out of the city's general fund for the necessary funding
needed on the listed staff mental.
primarily capital project ones and grant funds.
And then secondly, there are several appropriation revisions that include various funds, including our general fund and you'll see subsequent ordinances for capital projects that are subject to your approval.
I would recommend approval of the entire ordinance, thank you.
Also, would you suspend second, Julie, please call the roll
Mr. Kerstner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Warren. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Staling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, we'll do a proof
Second, Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Kerstner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Warren. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mr. Staling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes
Ordinance number 22 dash O dash zero five one is approved
ordinance number 22-0-052.
In ordinance, determining to proceed with the improvement of streets here and
after mentioned within the terminated by supplying such streets with electric
street lighting and declaring emergency.
Mr. Flippiak, anything?
Yeah, thank you, Mr. Resemez, Mr. Malinowski, please.
Thank you, Mr. Flippiak.
Members of Council, the next two ordinances, this one, firstly, determines the necessity
We need to proceed with the street lighting and the only attachment are the streets themselves that benefit from the overall street lighting.
The subsequent ordinance to this is the ordinance to assess and certify those dollar amounts, which total about $1.6 plus million for 2023.
I would recommend approval, thank you.
Council who do you suspend second?
Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Cursor. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Martin. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mrs. Dallin. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, move to approve
Second, Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Cursor. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Martin. No, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dallin. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes
Ordin's number 22-0-05-2 is approved
The ordinance number 22-0-053.
An ordinance to levies assessments for the improvement of various streets in the city and manner by supplying said streets with electric street lighting and declaring emergency.
Mr. Flippi-Axay.
Move to suspend, thank you.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kerchner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mrs. Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirchner?
Yes. Mr. Krieger?
Yes. Mr. Marn?
No. Mr. Blake?
Yes. Mr. Donovan?
Yes.
Mrs. Dowling?
Yes. Mr. Freeman?
Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-053 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-054.
An ordinance approving the vacation of a roadway easement upon permanent parcel number 16B-063-A-001-5-0
and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flipiae.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I will refer to Mr. Zeman, and we can supplement any comments he might have.
Thank you.
Mr. President, members of Council, the administration was approached by Polycam Corporation.
They are entering into a purchase leaseback for their property here in Mentor.
Basically, it's just fundamentally to get out of the business of property ownership,
free up some capital, and they're just financing mechanism.
So it's an investor looking to acquire it, and then it probably can now notice Greenbridge would do about a 15-year lease.
When they were doing the title work, they saw this 10-foot highway easement.
As near as we can figure out, and Mr. Swigger and Ms. Mitchell spent a lot of time on this issue as well,
when Old Highsley Road was vacated, that 10-foot-wide easement, which was a part of that subdivision that was approved,
was retained. And it's kind of speculative that it may have been purposefully retained
because in addition to some utility lines running through there the city does have a storm
water line in that approximate easement area as well. What's been indicated by the broker
for the property is that the purchaser has considerable problems with the fact that
that is still a highway easement, and obviously the city then has surface rights.
And while no, the city's probably not likely to build a ten-foot wide roadway
through there, nonetheless, the fact that it could happen is material to the transaction.
So what Polycom has asked is that highway easements specifically be vacated, that will not affect
any of the easements that would arise by operation of law for any other lines that run through
there. However, we do need an easement to grant to the city to maintain that storm water
line that runs through there. We've already submitted a draft easement to the city, and
so that's under review so we're pretty far along on that process. So, ultimately what
the city's really giving up is any surface rights to construct and improve surface in this
10-foot wide area. I think the administration obviously has taken a position as to whether
not there's any public need for it, I won't comment on that.
I am told, however, by the broker that it is time-sensitive, the purchaser is obviously
concerned with increasing interest rates and how that may affect financing for this acquisition.
So, if Council is amenable to this roadway vacation on behalf of the property owner via
their broker, Council was encouraged to suspend and pass tonight unless there are any issues.
Thank you.
We'll flip back anything off.
Yeah, I just add to that that we did take a hard look at this and we foresee no future need to have any
Highways met through there. We're maintaining and easement for our stormwater line and that's sufficient.
Thank you council. Move to suspend.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kreeger.
Yes. Mr. Kreeger.
Yes. Mr. Marn.
Mr. Blake.
Yes. Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mrs. Dowling.
Yes. Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
We do approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kirstner?
Yes.
Mr. Krieger?
Yes.
Mr. Marn?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Gonevin?
Yes.
Mrs. Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman?
Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-055.
An ordinance awarding and authorizing the City Manager to enter into a bid contract with Union Industrial Contractors Inc.
for the construction of a menor marsh public access project phase one and two and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flipiae. Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Swigger, please. Thank you, Mr. Flipiae.
Mr. President and members of council. Goods were opened on Friday, June 17th for the menor marsh public access project phases one and two.
Project will construct an ADA-accessible observation deck and connecting boardwalk along the edge of the menor marsh at the menor lagoon's nature preserve in marina that will be available to all visitors.
Approximately 515 linear of linear feed of timber boardwalk with composite decking 8 feet and width will be constructed with the project.
The bid summary reviewed by this office is attached. Only one bid was received with a project in the amount of $477,246.
The engineers opinion of probable construction cost was $435,000.
Funding for the project will be aided by a grant from the Ohio Department of Natural Resources in the amount of $233,400.
three dollars. This contract is not include materials for lumber composite decking or fabricated
steel support members because those items were included in previous bids and will be provided
by the city. The low bid was received from Union Industrial Contractors of Asheville, Ohio,
whose bid was found to be in conformance with all contract requirements. It's therefore recommended
that the contract be awarded to Union Industrial Contractors in the amount of $477,246 and the
the scheduled project completion date is October 30th.
Thank you, Mr. Philpeth.
Mr. President and members of council, I did want to point out that I think we're excited
to be able to move forward on phases one and two here.
We expect, obviously, this contract should be completed by the end of the year.
We've already started to receive some of the building materials.
The nice thing about it is that it folds in nicely with the award that we received through
the State Capitol grant for $450,000 for phase three of this.
So yet this year we'll be bringing you a contract for the design of the observation tower
Which is the last phase of this project which hopefully we can budget for 2023 and have this
Entire project wrapped up by the end of next year. So we're the timing of this is is very nice at this. Thank you, sir
Council move to suspend second
Julie, please call the roll Mr. Kerstrum. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Martin. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Sally. Yes, Mr. Freeman
Yes, we'll do a proof. Second. Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Kirsten. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Marn. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, pardon
the summer of 22, that show, that 055 is approved, pardon the summer of 22, that show, that 056.
The ordinance authorizing the City Manager to award a bid contract to Raniak Faving Inc. for the forest road, Woodridge Lane, resurfacing project and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flipia.
Yes, Mr. President?
And I know that.
Yeah, I was there at a time.
I was happy about this.
This is the last phase of our headlin's road project.
project. Again, it's been a great success and congratulations to Mr. Swigger and his staff
for putting together some very, very competitive grants over the last seven, eight years now,
which have brought millions in for this project overall. So, Mr. Swigger, you want to
tell us about the last bit here. We'll do. Thank you, sir. Bids are open on Friday, June 10th
for the Forest Road Woodridge Lane Resurfacing Project.
The project will provide curb repair,
full depth pavement repairs in an asphalt overlay,
a forest road from Lake Overlook to Woodridge,
and a Woodridge Lane from Forest Road to Corduroy Road.
The four bids received for the project
range from a low bid of $610,499 to a high bid
of $681,898.
It's been determined that Roniac Paving
Incorporated of Burton, Ohio, submitted the lowest bid of $610,499.
The project is expected to receive a $135,000 grants in $150,000 loan from the Ohio Public Works Commission.
The engineer's opinion of probable constructions.
Oppression cost for the project was 560,000. Do the current state of the economy and heighten fuel prices. Majority of the price increased dealt with material cost increases to asphalt and concrete curbing. Asphalt prices are currently approximately 1.5 times what was awarded on the January 2022 road program bid. Per discussions with ODOT prices are expected to increase further through the remainder of 2022 and early 2023. While the project came in 9% higher than the engineers.
Estimates and a war is still recommended as any rebid would like to be returned higher bids
A review of the bid from Raniak Paving indicates its conformance with all contract requirements
Therefore recommended that a contracting amount of 610,499 dollars be awarded to Raniak Paving
Scheduled completion A for the project is November 15th, 2022
Thanks, mr. Swagger. That was a great job. You did on that too. Appreciate council move to suspend second
Please call the roll. Mr. Carson. Yes. Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Barn. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, move to proof. Second, Julie, please call the roll. Mr.
Curstner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Barn. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes.
ordinance number 22-0-056 is approved ordinance number 22-0-057 an ordinance authorizing
the city manager to award a bid contract to A&J cement contractors Inc. for the
Market Street rehab and resurfacing project and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flipiae thank you Mr. President and I'll turn this over to Mr. Swig in a moment but
Council is aware that Market Street has been a challenge for us about ten years
ago we decided to go with an asphalt overlay of that street to try to buy us some time and it
bought us a decade which was great but this is really a significant rebuild which we do have
the aid of almost $300,000 in the OPWC grant money so predominantly nearly all of Market Street will
be reconstructed. Mr. Swigger. Thank you, Mr. Philippiac. Vids, we're open to Friday June 10th for
the Market Street rehab and resurfacing project.
Project will provide full-depth concrete joint repairs
in an asphalt overlay of Market Street
for months in a row to approximately
the pediatric dental office.
Joint repairs will tie the existing concrete slabs together
with steel dowels to provide an extended pavement life.
The big package consisted of a base bid
and no bid alternates.
The four bids received for the base bid
range from a low of $1,085,000 to approximately $253,000, or $1,253,000, it's been determined
that A&J cement contractors of Uoflo, Ohio submitted the lowest total bid of $1,085,270.
The project is expected to receive a $288,500 grant and $150,000 loan from the Iowa Public
Works Commission.
The engineer's opinion of probable construction cost for the project was $840,000.
While the project came in approximately 29% higher than the engineer's estimate,
it's once again also recommended to award the bid as any rebid would be expected to come in higher at this point.
A review of the bid from ANJ cement contractors indicates its conformance with all contract requirements.
Therefore, I recommend to award a contract to ANJ cement contractors, scheduled final completion date for the project is November 15th of this year.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Swearer Council.
Who does she spend?
Second.
Go ahead.
Julie, please call over.
Mr. Christmas.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Barn.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
This is Dowling.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Mr. President, real quick.
Mr. Schumer.
The piggyback.
Mr. Swearer's comments.
So, basically, the overall project came in $200,000 more, which took out basically two-thirds of
our grant.
So when we apply for the grant was 288. So when we apply for the grant, is there a way
if we decided to not accept this bid and re-bid that we could go back and re-grant so to
speak?
No, it's an OPWC project, so we were awarded funding in that last round, that round is committed.
So if we would reject the project at this point, that money would go to another project
It didn't score as highly as ours and be funded first.
Now we could apply in a future year for the project, but again, as Mr. Soder pointed out, you're probably looking at even higher prices.
We've talked to a lot of people in the industry and then colleagues in other cities.
No one expects these prices to start to decline for at least a couple of years.
that we'll see how that goes.
The one thing that's interesting about this project,
one thing to keep in mind too,
is that that engineer's estimate is pretty early on
in our planning process.
So when we're competing for these OPWC grants,
you know, you're many six, eight months or longer ago.
Yeah.
So this estimate is probably close to a year old.
so it really, because it coincides with our original application to OPWC, so it's a
stale estimate, and so it's probably not too far outside, it's clearly not outside of
the present market conditions. The interesting thing about this is that there's a lot of cement
work related to this project, and we haven't really seen significant increases in concrete work,
But we're starting to now and I think most of that's probably the labor component. Okay. All right. Thank you. Move to approve. Second
Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Kirstner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Marn. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mrs. Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes
Ordin's number 22-0-057 is approved
Ordin's number 22-0-058
An ordinance authorizing the City Manager to enter into a contract with Northern
Floring Specialists for the purchase and installation of flooring at the Munner
Recreation Center and declaring an emergency.
Her flip, yeah?
Thank you, Mr. President, members of Council.
I'm going to turn this over to Mr. Schweiker who put this bid together, but I'm Mr.
Kominsky's happy to answer any questions about any of the areas and I know most of
council had a chance to do a walk through, so you're familiar with the areas that need
change in flooring. So, Mr. Schweiger.
A significant component of the upgrade for the Minerum Recreation Center is the replacement of floor tile and carpeting throughout the facility.
This project will include the installation of approximately 10,000 square feet of vinyl planking, 3,400 square feet of ceramic tile and 3,500 square feet of carpet.
All are most of the removal of the existing tile and carpet will be performed by city forces.
By recommendation that the city enter into a contract with Northern Flooring Specialists for the purchase and installation of those materials described in the attached proposal, total cost to this project will be $126,047.6
Northern Flooring Specialists has a contract under the State of Ohio State Term Schedule purchasing program and they have successfully performed several projects for the city in the past.
Thank you.
Mr. Clerk.
Thank you, Mr. Schleiker.
Councilor.
Move to spin.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kerstner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Maureen.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Move to approve.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kerstner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Maureen.
Yes.
Mr. Blake.
Yes.
Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
This is Dowling? Yes, Supreme Court. Yes.
Ordin Summer 22-0-058 is approved.
Ordin Summer 22-0-059.
In ordinance approving and authorizing the City Manager to execute an amendment
to a labor agreement on behalf of the City of Menor with a menor part time fire fighters
association and declaring an emergency. Mr. Flipia. Thank you, Mr. President.
The City is where the administration is very happy to finally reach agreement
with our part time firefighters over their most recent collective bargaining agreement as council's aware they are one year set off from our full time employees.
So I will turn it over to Chief Sirals to offer any highlights here.
Thank you, Mr. Flipk. Mr. President is a manager reporting his staff report. We had very good discussions with our part time union and we were able to restructure
or pay classification to allow us to be more competitive in the area.
You know, one thing that I want to highlight because it's new in our contract is we were
able to distinguish between the EMT rate and the firefighter paramedic rate, and I also
want to share with you that the average part-time wage for an experienced firefighter paramedic
in Lake County was 2375 an hour with the average in Lake yoga in eastern Kayaoga County being
24, 76 an hour. So this proposed on the numbers outlined in the contract in the staff report
places is where we need to be, to be more competitive in the area. And we also offered
an incentive to our part timers who work 1900 hours a year. They'll receive a thousand
dollars or it equates to 53 cents an hour, capped at a thousand. And that just gives them a
a little bit in Son of DePaul some more time,
which is in the best interest of the city.
So we highly recommend this.
I wanna thank Union President Priet Piazza
for working so well with administrations
and I'll try to answer any questions you have.
Thank you.
Thank you, Chief, Mr. Flipia.
Yeah, Council, this has been approved by the Union.
Excellent.
Move to suspend.
Second.
Mr. Lillip, please call the roll.
Mr. Kerstner, Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn, Mr. Blake, Mr. Donovan.
Yes.
This is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, moved to approve. Second Julie, please call the roll. Mr. Kirchman. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Warren. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, ordinance over 22-0-059 is approved.
ordinance number 22-0-0-6-0 an ordinance amending part 1 title 5 section 151.13
of the codified ordinances of the city amendment or 2006 as amended the
same related to compensation for employees authorizing the city
manager to increase compensation for non-bargaining unit personnel pursuant
to section 151.16 and declaring emergency. Mr. President councilman Trigger or
Councillor, sorry.
I would move that we move to adjourn into executive session to consider the compensation of
a city official and further under real estate.
I move to adjourn into executive session to consider the purchase of property for public
purposes and for the reason that the premature disclosure of information will give an unfair
bargaining advantage to private interest at first to the general public interest.
Thank you, sir.
I will say exactly what raised your second.
Please call the roll.
Mr. Courtsman.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Marn.
Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Donovan. Yes. This is Dowling. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes.
Or the public, we are going into executive session and we will be back when we are done. Thank you.
Yes, Mr. President, I would move to amend, take a roll call, right? Oh, I'm sorry. Back in the session. Let's go.
I need a motion.
Ray, move the roll back in the regular council session. Second. Thank you, Julie. Please call the roll. Mr. Persona. Mr. Friger. Yes. Mr. Ma'am. Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Donovan. Yes.
Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Mr. President, I would move to amend the ordinance to include the bi-weekly pay of the city manager to 8,653.
53 and 85 cents.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Christian, Mr. Krueger, Mr. Martin, Mr. Blake, Mr. Donovan, Mr. Dallin, Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Does this spend as a minute, second, as a minute?
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Christian, Mr. Krueger, Mr. Martin, Mr. Blake, Mr. Donovan, Mr. Dallin, Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Move to approve as amended.
it. Second. Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Christmas. Yes. Mr. Krieger. Yes. Mr. Marn. Yes.
Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Gonevin. Yes.
Mr. Dallin. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-060 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-061.
And Ordinance.
Authorizing this city manager to enter into a contract with designed to wellness LLC for
the purchase and installation of exercise and related equipment at the Recreation Center under the State of Ohio Cooperative Purchasing Program, and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flippiak.
Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Cumminsky, please.
Thank you, Mr. Flippiak, members of the council.
The Purchase Recreation Department is recommending the purchase, delivery, and installation of some new fitness equipment for the Menor Recreation Center.
This replacement program is replacing some of the equipment that was part of the purchase of the Recreation Center.
We had the equipment inspected by two independent sources may agree that the older equipment has some of the older equipment has reached its life expectancy and some other equipment the replacement parts are obsolete.
Designed to wellness is authorized dealer of core health and fitness of Lewis Center Ohio whose company and equipment is based on the Ohio state that it is therefore recommended that the contract be awarded to design to wellness.
Thank you, Mr. Commissi. I'm going to have Mr. Ziemann speak on that.
Yes, Councilor. There's a little bit of an asterisk. This pricing list that the company
submitted is updated. The current price listing was approved back in September of last year.
Now the company can't honor that pricing anymore. They're the vendor from the manufacturer.
and so they have submitted apparently the increased price list which this ordinance
reflects to the Department of Administrative Services. That has not been
accepted and published yet but it has reasonably anticipated that over the
next few weeks that new price listing will be approved by the state. If there's
some hiccup and it doesn't happen then although you may approve this contract
tonight, Council will have to be apprised that there was some problem and that in fact
the purchase can't proceed because that approved pricing for whatever reason may not have
been approved.
So, just be aware, I guess, that could unfold over the coming weeks and if so, Council will
be advised.
If everything goes smoothly and then their updated pricing is, then obviously the contract
could be executed and the purchase move forward.
Thank you.
Okay, thank you.
So, if we prove this, we're not stuck in a situation where is there a way out of it?
Yeah, well, yeah, we want to sign the contract and the ordinance could be repealed.
Now, obviously, the reason it's a little cart before the horse certainly is, is obviously
council's recess and the time-sensitive nature of trying to get the Recreation Center re-opened
on time.
So, ordinarily, this would not be the front of council, but obviously, the expedience aspect
the effect of this is the reason that suggested to do it this way.
Thank you, Mr. Zeeven.
Mr. Speaker, this is a trigger.
Mr. Blake, I'm sorry.
Does this reflect all the exercise equipment that we're going to need?
We're making just one big bulk purchase.
That is correct, sir.
And so this combined with what's already there and is workable and salvageable and we can use it going forward.
So this completes that purchase, right?
Yes, completely done.
And I like the equipment that you have chosen.
I think it's got a track record of durability, and people like it.
So, who does to you on that?
Thank you.
Councillor, I will point out, too, that there's a significant amount of the older equipment
that we obviously won't be using.
We had some discussion this morning about how to make that available through auction.
So, we'll have, obviously we'll post that on the public auction sites online that we've done with a lot of other surplus equipment and we're also considering maybe having some sort of special auction at that facility because of the quantity.
So there may be some opportunity for some locals to pick up.
Are we close to an auction date? Is that fall?
You mentioned fall, right?
Ideally would be in the summer.
On summer?
Yes.
Okay.
So you're thinking maybe next month?
Yes.
Okay.
Great.
If we were able to work out.
It was kind of my question because you had it set aside.
Equipment.
You're going to keep.
Equipment.
We're going to throw out an equipment.
You're going to auction off.
That's correct.
And I wondered if you had already.
I wasn't sure you hadn't had the auction yet.
And how would that be tracked from this figure for, for $415,000.
So you don't know that.
That is correct.
But okay, thank you. Thank you
Council mr.
president
I guess a question for a law director so mr. Zeman so if this because of inflation or even going through the roof like everything
You know gas everything else
It is if we have to go ahead and have a meeting
I mean people are on vacation what have you we could just do a zoon meeting correctly
We did during covid if we got to get this because we cannot not get this done right no that are all over the country
Yeah, that that's that sure authorization is expired. It has correct. So we can't do that at all. So we got to be a face to face.
Well, we'll make it work. Hopefully it doesn't go up right. Thank you, Mr. Martin. Move to suspend second.
Julie, please call a role. Mr. Christian. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, yes, Mr. Martin. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, this is Dowling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, move to a proof. Second. Julie, please call a role. Mr. Christmas. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Martin. Yes, Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, darling. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes.
On the summer 22-0.061 is approved.
On the summer 22-0.062, again, what happened?
Oh, no, that was 6-1, I'm sorry.
This is 0-6-2, go ahead, sorry about that.
Got mixed up.
In ordinance authorizing the city manager
to enter into a contract with Burgess and Niple Inc.
for architectural and engineering services
for the menor Marina Kayak and Concessions Building
project and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Flip, thank you, Mr. President.
The city has received and reviewed the qualifications for
Burgess and Naiple to continue to do architectural work.
Council is aware that they did a very good job for us with the new cemetery building.
We've had a good experience there.
And Mr. Kaminsky, want to talk a little bit about our project?
Yes, thank you, Mr. Flip, the act members of council.
Parks and Recreation Department is requesting approval for professional service agreement with Burgess and Naiple Eank.
for the architecture and engineering services
to plan and design the new kayak slash concessions slash
restroom building at the Madam Marina.
As Mr. Flipkick had just indicated the city administration
has reviewed the professional qualifications
and we had great success with them with the
cemetery building.
Based upon that review, we recommend that this contract
be awarded to Burgess and Nyple Wink
for the design, planning, and bid documents contract.
Thank you.
Councillor Sages had one thing to that.
It did have a meeting last week with a seat member,
representative from CT Consultants.
They have no conflict with this.
It's not a conflict with their contract.
Thank you, sir.
Mr. President, Mr. Courtshire.
Just a quick question.
I can't recall.
So did we include showers with the restrooms with this plan or no?
We have not contemplated showers in there, but it hasn't been designed, so if council
would prefer that, it's something that we could possibly talk about down the line, but
I'm just glad we're doing that.
I'd like to see this probably 15 years ago when our hands were tied, but now that we're finally
starting to do things, Don, it's great to see these projects going forward and with that
I'll suspend.
I'll second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Mr. Kerstner? Yes. Mr. Krieger? Yes.
Yes. Mr. Marn? Yes. Mr. Blake? Yes. Mr. Donovan? Yes.
Mr. Darling? Yes. Mr. Freeman? Yes.
We'll do a proof. Second. Julie, please call the role. Mr. Kerstner? Yes. Mr. Krieger? Yes. Mr. Marn? Yes. Mr. Blake? Yes. Mr. Donovan? Yes.
Mr. Darling? Yes. Mr. Freeman? Yes.
Ordinance number 22-0-062 is approved.
Ordinance number 22-0-063.
The ordinance authorizing the city manager to award a contract whose summit painting LLC for interior painting of the mental recreation center and declaring an emergency.
Mr. Floppy, thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Schweiker, please.
Thank you. Another significant component of the upgrades to the mental recreation center is the painting of much of the building interior.
Much of this preparatory work has already been completed by city forces.
We received three quotes for this project which are listed here.
The short time constraint of reopening the facility did not allow for following the normal sealed bid process, thus creating an emergency situation.
It is my recommendation that the City Manager be authorized to enter into a contract with summit painting and signs for $123,000.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Schlecker.
Council.
Just on this, I'm looking for you to do a lot of this stuff as far as the scaffolding,
labor and equipment and all that will be billed directly in addition to the total cost.
Do we have any idea what we're talking about there?
I mean, I'm surprised that there's a scaffolding and the lift trucks and so on aren't there
because we know it's a high building and there's going to be additional charges.
Do we have any idea what that's going to be?
Well, one of the things that we spoke about, Councilman, is if the scaffolding is needed, which we don't think it's going to be because we actually have our lifts there, and so we would be utilizing those lifts for those types of work.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
You already moved.
This is the second.
Do you really please call the roll?
Mr. Kirstner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Maher.
Yes. Mr. Blake.
Mr. Daven.
Yes.
Mr. Dallin.
Yes.
Mr. Freeman.
Yes.
Who do you approve?
Second.
Julie.
Please call the roll.
Mr. Kirstner.
Yes.
Mr. Krieger.
Yes.
Mr. Maher.
Yes.
Mr. Blake. Mr. Donovan. Yes.
Is Dowling. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes.
Gordon, December 22-0-063 is approved.
Resolution number 22-0-107.
Resolution adopting the Lake County Multi-Jurisdictional Hazard Mitigation Plan for the City of Menor.
Mr. Flipkamp. Thank you, Mr. President. Chief Cerels, please.
Thank you, Mr. Flipkamp. Mr. President, as you know,
So the Lake County multi-jurisdictional hazard mitigation plan was updated this year.
The city of Mennor had good input into the update in adopting this resolution,
makes the city of Mennor eligible for disaster mitigation funding should there ever be a need.
Thank you.
Thank you very much, Council.
Who'd you suspend?
The second.
You'll call the roll.
Please.
The prisoner?
Yes.
Mr. Frieger?
Yes.
Mr. Mennor?
Yes.
Mr. Blake?
Yes.
Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mr. Stalin. Yes, Mr. Freeman. Yes, we'll do a proof. Second, really call the role, please. Mr. Kursner. Yes, Mr. Krieger. Yes, Mr. Martin. Yes, Mr. Blake. Yes, Mr. Donovan. Yes, Mrs. Dallin. Yes, Mr. Freeman.
Resolution number 22-R-107 is adopted.
Second readings, we have none.
Third readings, we have none.
Manager's report. Thank you, Mr. President. Council, we have an open cut request on Reynolds Road and Balfour Road pavement open cuts for aqua Ohio for tying in several new water lines.
The request actually consists of about eight open cuts to tie in new water lines on the connecting streets.
It's been reviewed extensively during the course of the project by our engineering department.
And actually we're happy that this is going forward not because they're going to cut the payment but because it's going to improve water service to the area.
Councilor your approval.
Move to suspend.
Second.
Julie, please call the roll.
Move to approve.
Thank you.
Mr. Christre.
Yes. Mr. Krieger. Yes. Mr. Mon. Yes. Mr. Blake. Yes. Mr. Donovan. Yes. Mrs. Dowling. Yes. Mr. Freeman. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Council. Council, I'll have a report that we had really no major incidents, safety related incidents over the Independence Day weekend overall. So we're very happy about that. The city of matter will be holding its third and final public meeting for the fiscal year 2022 to 2026 consolidated plan and the fiscal year 2022 annual action plan for
our community development block grant applications that will be this Wednesday, July 6th, from 3 to 4 p.m., here at the Mentor Municipal Center.
The city's fiscal year 22 allocation from the EOS Department of Housing and Urban Development is $158,867.
dollars. Reminders to our public that the Dominion Hydro Testing Project began this morning.
Residents and businesses near the railroad tracks north of Jackson Street or advise that
Dominion will be performing a gas pressure hydro test project over the next few weeks in
mentor, painful and painful township on their distribution line that runs along the north
set of tracks. Dominion contractors began their work this morning by staging their equipment
along the north side of the rail rail tracks near the menor dog park so we're
going to planning on keeping the dog park open there but there will be some
activities in and around there. We've made it clear to the dominion that we have
every intent of keeping the dog park open so unless that work becomes more
disruptive that is our plan. Those in the air may experience occasional gas
smells as the pipes are bled.
The city has recently been informed by ODAT that Lakeshore Boulevard is eligible for
state fiscal year 2025, urban paving program funding.
So funds will be available July 1st of 2024, the project cost is currently estimated in
$900,000, and we could receive up to 90% of funding for that.
it's almost a certainty that we would get 80%.
So, if you're driven like Sure Boulevard,
you know, it's starting to,
Lake Shore Road is starting to look like it needs some help.
So we're looking to be able to have that repaved
from across the entirety of the city limits
as early as 2024.
And then finally, council, just a reminder
that the Headlands Beach Fest is on Saturday, July 16th,
from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m., at Headlands Beach State Park.
It's free admission and parking.
And we want to thank our sponsors, University Hospitals, Meyer, and Mimi Vanderhaven, and this event is going forward, rain or shine.
And that's all.
Thank you, sir.
Mr. President, Mr. Mark.
Underneath this portion of our meeting, I'd like to congratulate.
I'm sure Menter City Council will also like to congratulate.
And the City Administration, I'm Menter Patroman Phil Crosser on his retirement.
Yeah, yeah, congratulations, thank
you, Mr. Marn.
Clerk's correspondence.
Council is in receipt of a liquor permit transfer from Spiced Up Brands LLC, DBA, Tai Orkut at 7502 Menor Avenue to Spiced Up Brands LLC, DBA, Tai Orkut at 7329 Menor Avenue.
That is all.
Commissioner, committee reports, we have none.
Old business, Mr. President.
Mr. President, Blake.
Yep.
Ken, our large antique bungalow at Springbrook.
Yes.
What's our strategy with that?
Because it's looking, it's looking weathered.
Yep.
We have, Mr. Schroiker, do you want to give an update on that?
I'm not sure.
Sure.
In fact, I think some of the funding that was on Mr. Melanowski's item earlier tonight
was funding. We have a painting to do. We got someone lined up for that. Roof
repairs. We have someone lined up for that also. In brick repair. Right.
You
probably already noticed that we've removed some of the exterior. I guess they
were screening, screening hardware in the front there which I think looks
looks better overall that large tree in the back has been removed and will be under contract
very shortly here for all three of those improvements.
The idea is to just button that up and be viable for future use.
That includes like restaining the shake shingles side because that's the worst looking part.
Yeah.
It's either a restaining or painting and Mr. Vernon is working on getting some quotes on
both.
Thank you. Thank you because it's looking like it needs a council person
dolly. Yes, with that the $18,000 that was mentioned earlier this evening. I assume
that's what it was good to hear. I wanted to make sure. I didn't want that to
float away. Thank you. New business. Anyone? We have three persons before
council. Please when you come up you have four minutes. If you're on the same
subject all three people. Please don't repeat. Linda O'Brien, please come up and state your
name and address for the clerk, please. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
I've been here just two short years and I'd like you to know first off that I'm here in
support of the Linda Marlins and I do not have a child or a grandchild program. However, I do
have a 15-year experience as a certified lifeguard and I'd like to share some
of those experiences with you to help you have but now it's important it is to
have people know how to swim. I was certified as a lifeguard at the age of 16 in
those years I rescued two young people. It's hard to hear you I can't hear you.
I'm gonna adjust it for you.
Was it?
Most of my forms just like that.
Oh.
No, I'm not struggling.
Sorry about that.
The recorder broke Linda.
The recorder broke.
We're gonna get a fixed chord.
No, you might have done it.
Yeah, it might be your fault.
We could blame you.
What'd you do to it?
Before you came back.
Okay, all right.
That's what they get, right?
right? So
you had a problem with it earlier. Well, there's been a problem with it now. Linda,
I can hear you fine. I just talked to John. Yeah, Mr.
President. Yes, sir. Oh, here we go.
Problems. Oh, there you go. We got, we got microphones. Would you like me to start over?
Well, I think we've got the first part.
Thank you.
Okay.
Much better.
All right.
So in my 15-year career as a certified lifeguard, I rescued two people from drowning.
One was a child, and one was an older male.
Now, as you can see from my height, you know, this male was about this tall.
And so because of my lifeguarding experience and learning to swim the way I did to be certified,
I was able to pull that man out of that pool.
I went on to be a swim instructor.
And being an instructor, you not only have the opportunity
to deal with youngsters, but you have the opportunity
to deal with older teens and adults who
have a great fear of water.
And I can tell you, there was a young man
who was very successful at basketball.
He towered over me.
But if I got him into three feet of water, he froze
and became as stiff as a board out of fear.
And that fear just overtook him in a terrible way.
There was a doctor, a female doctor, who couldn't put her face in the water
and wanted to learn to swim because her husband took up a sport of fishing
and she wanted to share it with him.
So not knowing how to swim is a real issue.
But learning how to be a lifeguard at 16 helped me in many ways.
One, it provided income from my family, which back in those days was really an important
ad.
It taught me great responsibility, and it contributed to my college expenses in later years
so that I could pay for my own college degree.
So those experiences went on to help me, but it also helped my community because to prevent
those two drownings was a priceless result.
As any of you can imagine, if one of your children or family members were to drown, the
experience in the heartache is dreadful.
I've only been here in Menter for two years, but I've already heard about a number of
drownings right here in our waterfront community.
I can't tell you enough, and I don't want to get overly passionate about this, but you
You must support a swimming program.
It is incredible because there is no other sport that can help save lives from drowning.
And that is the most critical thing of all.
I mean, basketball is great, soccer is great, hockey is great, but it won't help our water
front.
It won't give you life cards.
It won't give our schools those letter jackets for the swim teams.
When I was out at Spire recently and the men or swim team marched out wearing their
letter jackets, those kids walked out so proudly and they were so happy with what they
had achieved.
This should never be denied any of our middle school or high school students.
This should never be allowed for any community person to have the threat of drowning.
So, I really implore you to consider seriously the minimal expense that is required to provide
swimming lessons for children from the age of four all the way up through high school.
Please, I'm begging you because I know firsthand the pain and the fear of pulling people out
from grounding monitors.
Thank you so much, Linda.
Your time's off.
I appreciate you.
Thank you.
Mr. President.
Mr. Craig. Mr. Kaminsky. Don't we have a swimming program for the city of
Maryland? Swim lessons? Yes. We did currently did not have them this year. We
had them in the past prior to COVID. So no swimming program, no promoting this
year. That is correct. Okay. Thank you. Because we are not that when this was all
started we did not know how many life cards we are going to have to be able to
operate the swim lessons like we have in the past. Okay. We want we may want to
mention what we're doing to try to get lifeguards can I think we three classes and training and
you know I'm not sure on all the details could you give a little bit of what we're doing to
recruit lifeguards? Sure, we've done actually numerous things besides going out and canvassing
the schools and the local colleges not just local colleges here as far as way as Cleveland even
Bull and Green, Facebook, Twitter, all the social medias, the city website, the city had
classes held over at Lake Health, and that turned out to be very, very successful for us.
We also advanced our pay to a point to where we were able to attract additional guards,
And besides the pay we also offered an incentive that if you're able to work over 30 hours you're able to get a $2-hour per raise, per-hour raise with that.
And it got us to a point to where we were able to open, and we've had council work sessions regarding the poll, but we got to a point to where we were able to open Civic Center and be able to handle the needs that we have to be able to operate fully.
We are keeping our poll open.
Thank you, Ken.
We have another speaker, Sharon Gravius.
Please come up.
Give us your name and address for the clerk, please.
My name is Sharon Gravius.
I live at 9551 Remington Drive here in Munter.
I have been a mentor resident since October of 2011.
I have twin 17-year-old sons that have been part of the Munter Mile since the summer of
2012. Currently, one of my sons is a first-year lifeguard. He was recruited through the
programs that you discussed. His twin brother has chosen a more lucrative summer job.
But I'd like to talk to you about Ryan and his position that he took. Ryan took this job
out of a sense of duty to his community and to his teammates on the Menor Marlins. He did
not want to-
We were talking to that microphone right turn that microphone a little bit. Thank you.
Appreciate it.
He did not want to see this community lose a vital resource, something that was very important
to him.
And when we lost the pool and the swim team in the summer of 2020, that was devastating
for these children.
And he didn't want to see that happening, so in the middle of, excuse me, in the middle
of March, when he was very, very busy with AP classes and AP testing at school, he took
the YMCA lifeguard certification passed, became employed by the city.
All of those advertisements that went out had subheadings under them, talking about how new lifeguards could earn up to $14 an hour.
But if you go back and you look at them, they really say that the rate of pay for the lifeguards is $12 an hour.
The only way those new lifeguards are going to earn $14 an hour is if they work a minimum
of 30 hours a week.
Well, now...
40 lifeguards have been hired at the pool. There are no available slots for those keep wanting to say students. Lifeguards to work 30 hours a week. So, our community is out there seeing these postings on social media and on the city site that these students are getting $14 an hour, but they're not really. And what's happening is these students, I'm a librarian.
And I work with college students, their students to me.
These lifeguards are, no, I lost my turn to thought.
They're not getting the overtime yourself.
Yeah, they're not getting the overtime.
They're not getting the incentive.
And having worked with this generation
and raising two members of this generation,
I can tell you how they think.
They saw this put out.
They saw it as a promise.
They saw it as an incentive.
they see they're not getting that. They're going to walk away and they're going to look for the next opportunity.
But it's going to be spun that they're lazy and entitled and they don't want to work. And that's not true.
My son wanted to help our community. He wanted to do this so that younger students could come up through this wind program
and so that our pools would remain open.
And I think it's deceptive, and I want our community to know what's actually happening
out there.
The other thing I wanted to mention, there was in some of those postings that were listed
there was talk about the students getting reimbursed, the lifeguard is getting reimbursed for their
training fees.
Well, now as the mother of a lifeguard, I'm hearing differences in that, that the only
way they'll be in reimbursed is if they work 25 hours a week.
My son only works 18 to 22 hours a week, that's all he's scheduled for, and if he has to
work 25 hours and he's not getting scheduled for that, how will he be reimbursed?
When I do job training, my employers pay for the job training, and if it was advertised
that it's going to be reimbursed and I could be wrong I mean I'm hearing
things from teenagers so I could be wrong but I think it's something that
needs to be looked into. Thank you Sharon. Appreciate it.
Can we have
Mr. Primeski?
Vicki McDonald please state your name and address for the clerk
please. Hello I'm Vicki McDonald and my address is 718-0 Green Valley Drive
I've been mentored.
Thank you, Vicki.
All right.
In the interest of time, forgive me, I'm just going to read to you my presentation.
Good evening, Mr. President and members of Council.
My name is Vicki McDonald as I stated and I have been a resident of Mentor since 2014 after I retired from 24 years of active duty military service.
I understand the importance of serving those who cannot help or protect themselves, as well as the personal commitment and sacrifice required a public service, and I thank you for yours.
I have been a volunteer parent board member of the Mentor Marlon swim team for the last
seven years.
We are a small 501c3 nonprofit youth recreation swim program, available to kids of all ages
in swim experience.
Our program helps kids develop their swim skills to become competent and confident in the
water, which are important skills in our lakeside community.
Our season is eight weeks long and includes four days of practice each week and three home
swim meets on Saturday mornings.
We normally paid the city to rent the pool and for the cost of the lifeguards on duty.
In the past, the most we ever paid was approximately $5,000 in 2016, which included
40 days of practice, and each swimmer got seven and a half training hours per week, and
we hosted three regular dual swim meets.
Last year, we paid approximately $3,500 for 28 days of practice, in which each swimmer
got six hours of training per week, and our swim meets were held virtually to accommodate
social distancing. This year our season is 29 days of practice. Each swimmer is
only getting five hours of training time per week and we will host three
regular duel meet, duel meet starting this Saturday. Our current city fees
are assessed at $6,679 and our kids are getting less pool time. The city is
charging the team $1,150 to rent the pool as well as the maximum rate for pool
manager and lifeguards. The pool manager rate is $18 an hour and the lifeguard rate is $16.50 per
guard per hour regardless of what the city is actually paying them new guards start at $12 an
hour. The manager serves at the discretion of the parks and recreation departments comfort and
is required to unlock their front gate and check the pool chemicals. The cost of the rent to rent
the pool is arbitrary since the operating cost are already accounted for in the city's budget.
But when we met in April to discuss what fees are negotiable to help keep costs effective
for mentor families, Mr. Philippiak agreed to have the manager fees removed, however
the team is still being assessed those fees.
I emailed you both two weeks ago for clarification of the results of our meeting and have yet
to receive a response, which is why I'm here tonight.
I am very concerned about the condition of our community pools and overall demise of
their aquatic programs, especially the lack of the swim lessons.
Over the last five years, the pool facilities and staff have been mismanaged to the point
where life guards no longer want to work for the city.
Those that have to take the job this year have been deceived by the city's offer for premium pay,
only to get under-scheduled and refuse reimbursement for their training certification fee.
You have an over the minute, Vicki, thank you.
Thank you.
What will happen next year if they don't return?
Those are expensive to operate and are an inherent liability.
I understand that.
They are also incredibly important in the process of saving lives throughout the robust
swim programs.
Please understand that we are not just swim parents, we are voters, your constituents, and stakeholders.
And we feel we are losing confidence in the leadership and management of the city and
that our kids are being left behind.
We love this team and how much it helps our kids become self-disciplined, hard-working, productive adults, and we invite you all to come to our first homes when we meet this Saturday to see it for yourself.
Thank you.
Thank you, Vic.
Mr. President.
Mr. Krieger.
First of all, thank you for your service.
But just a question came to mind right now.
How do we compare to our neighboring cities as far as across, with Willoughby and Payneville and so on?
Yeah, so I can probably I can provide those numbers to you mentor swim team pays the most
Right this year we have asked our registration fees to be a hundred and fifty dollars to cover all of our fees
City fees are only a portion of what we pay to operate the team most cities
Charge about anywhere from 60 to a hundred dollars
But they also require those
is swimmers to have city pool passes.
So it's probably a little bit more expensive than mentor,
but we're I think the only team that does not require
our members to have pool passes.
So I mean, if the prices would better join in city,
would you move there or?
No, but we do have swimmers that I've left our team
to go to other cities because of the cost.
Okay.
All right, thank you.
We have multiple families that we have families
with multiple swimmers.
say the way what branch were you? Maybe. Oh well. Sorry. Thank you, Vicki. Go
Navy, beat Army. Do I have a motion? Move to adjourn. Second. Thank you.