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All right, good afternoon. If we everyone can find their way to the seats, we'll get this meeting started.

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Bear with me one moment of mapping technical difficulties.

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Okay, we're going to start the August 10th, 2026 meeting. It is now 432. All right. If I'm going to do a roll call to introduce the members up here, Mike Belzar. Good afternoon, everyone.

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Genie Forrester, Lynn Layton, Jim Gregwar, my name is Steve Aiken, to my right we have

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Robert Carpenter, Rachel Duffman, all right will please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.

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All

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right so at this time we're going to be having a public hearing, this is the second

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public hearing on the walk you on damn project. Oh, no, sorry. It's gonna be

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short-term rental licensing amendments. I apologize.

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All right, so at this time

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I'm gonna open up a public hearing at 433.

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I open the duly noted public

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I look here in 433 pursuant to RSA 41-9-A, relating to the amendment to the short-term rental regulation and fees.

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Angela, would you like to read the summary, or would you like I?

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I don't mind doing it.

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Thank you, Chairman, members of the board.

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Angela LeBrec, can you hear me okay?

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Okay, and so the summary is the amendments include removing the plot plan and

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the New Hampshire meals and rooms tax license number requirements from the short-term rental

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license application and adding an owner's in residence fee to an additional fee that's

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separate and different than the $400 fee for the owner's in residence.

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Would you like me to just highlight some of the pieces from our workshop last month.

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And then you'll open it to the public.

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Okay.

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So, at our last meeting, we reviewed what has happened up to date with the short-term

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renting license requirement that was established and our experience in working through the application.

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And so, it was recommended by the committee, the short-term rental committee, that reconvened,

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that a couple of items be removed from the application checklist just to make the application process a little smoother.

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So the first item is a plot plan and this is basically because any plot plan provided by or created by an applicant

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doesn't really give us more information than we can't already find.

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So that's probably a burden that we don't need to place on the applicant because really any information they're giving us,

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I feel like is already discoverable in our files or in our assessing data.

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And second would be the Meals and Rooms Tax License Number issued by the New Hampshire

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Department of Revenue Administration.

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And this doesn't absolve anyone from having to pay those taxes or get that tax license

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number.

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It's just, this is an item that we don't enforce.

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And it's not a number that's issued to every single unique property being rented.

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It's issued to the rental company managing the rentals, so Airbnb gets their own number

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and they may have 25 properties in Meredith and so that would really just be the exact

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same number being entered over and over into the various licenses.

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So those are the two amendments to the checklist and the last amendment would be having a different

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fee for the owners in residence and that would be the people who are short term renting

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and live on the property or reside on the property when the renting is occurring.

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And so that would be in part due to the fee originally being based on the average

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nightly rental of short-term rentals in Meredith.

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So that widely ranges.

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And $400 was where the select board and the committee, well the committee

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then the select board landed.

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the average nightly rate is higher than that, but it was a range that was

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recommended and $400 is where we landed. The $200 would be for the owners in

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residence. They rent for a far, far less amount than an entire home. That and the

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compliance issues that may go along with a short-term rental probably are

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don't exist just because the owners are residing there already controlling the

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noise in the parking situation and the trash. That's all I have I can answer

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questions or if anybody from the public has questions. Thank you Angela. So at

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this time we'll open it to the public to speak if you'd like to come up please

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state your name and where you live and we have plenty of individuals here that

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I can answer questions for you.

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Anyway, so just that we don't have any kind of a negative impact on the town.

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Our guests do come and spend money at the restaurants and shop and everything.

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But parking is below our house off the street.

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We have a well.

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They may take a shower, but that's about it.

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So there is a significant difference between what we do and

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someone who's renting out an entire home and is an absentee home owner, so I just wanted

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to leave you with that. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Scott Rosenthal, Carlton

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Road, Meredith. Question on the two-hour response time. How is that determined?

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And a follow-up? Is that going to be self-certified or is somebody actually when you review the

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application going to check it.

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Thank you. That's a good question. So a two-hour response

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time, basically the application requires information as to where the emergency response person

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is coming from and I just Google map it to see if it's within two hours. Most of the time

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it's a local rental agency.

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And just so you know from three Carlton

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road to Fenway Park is an hour and fifty on nine minutes.

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I have a suggestion.

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Sarah can you move the microphone to your mouth please.

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Thank you.

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I have a suggestion.

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Last year when this first came up, Chief Jones was talking about knockboxes.

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What about giving someone who installs or has installed the knockbox one year off

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from their rent or from the fee to encourage them?

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That's it.

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Okay. Thank you. Anyone want to?

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Okay. Thank you for that.

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Nope.

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Nope. Chief Jones.

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Chief Ken Jones, Meredith Flyer.

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I just answered that.

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that the price of nox boxes has drastically increased,

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I can tell you, a homeowner's nox box, small nox boxes,

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a little over 500 bucks, I believe at this time,

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that comes from California where they're located,

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and then seeing what a nox box is,

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all nox boxes throughout this community,

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a key to like to one emergency key in which we have,

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so we can get in making,

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and create a residential commercial building without doing damage if there is a nox box located there.

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So we like to have them on obviously all commercial property possible residential homes

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that have monitored fire alarms.

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And we also discussed it in our department.

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and I believe he ever brought it to committee about having these also on on short-term rentals, so if something happens, we can get into them and make entry.

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That's what they use for if anybody's not aware.

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Thank you, Chief. I believe there is someone else looking to come up.

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I just have a question. I read that there were 150 property owners that are active,

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of listeners, not listeners, listings, but only 41 licenses have been issued and that you're

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going to resend out reminders, you're supposed to apply for a license.

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And that out of the 41 that you are licensed only for are owner and residents.

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So the majority, it sounds to me like correct me from wrong.

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The majority are people that don't reside in the home.

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correct am I yeah okay of which I'm not a fan of but I was wondering so does

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that mean since only 41 licenses were issued that there's over a hundred

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people that are doing Airbnb that are not licensed is that what that means so

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they haven't been inspected by the fire department or anybody I don't know where

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where they are in the process of their licensing.

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How did you get that number of 150 active listings?

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Where did that come from?

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Angela,

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the woman behind you will have the answer.

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Yes, that's why I asked the question.

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So we have short-term rental software that tracks

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all of our short-term rental properties.

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And so I actually issued a few more licenses today.

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So maybe we're up to 44 and so 150 is in a approximation from our from our total license

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I mean total short terminals. That's a combination of my software saying this is how many are unlicensed and this is how many are licensed

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But how do you know they exist?

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because it scrubs hundreds of websites every day and adds the ones that come on and takes the ones that have come off.

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So you personally go to Airbnb?

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No, not personally, software scrapes all of it.

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I don't know.

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So the software scrapes all of these websites and identifies all the properties in 03253.

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Correct.

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But they're not licensed, and only 41 are licensed.

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Correct, and so as soon as these amendments get, well, initially only one letter went out, and

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we gave time for properties to get their special exceptions.

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Because what happened is we had a high call volume of people saying, I got this letter, I guess I need to do this licensing, and

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I said, okay, do you have your special exception yet?

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the farm majority said no, that's at least a month process.

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Why did they need a special exception?

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It's a land use approval with the zoning board of adjustment.

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Any short-term rental requires inspection?

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Special exception. Unless they've been grandfather. And the ones that had special exceptions. I was just curious if it seemed like over a hundred properties that are doing. Ma'am, can you use this? Can you use the speaker? The microphone, please? Thank you. We're recording this. And so it goes right to the recording.

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So, yes. So it's, it's a little disturbing to me as

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property owner that there are over a hundred out there that haven't been

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inspected by the fire department. Yeah so anyway and as far as the tax the

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town not requiring the license for the meals rental tax. You're like out of it

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you say listen the state is responsible for that to collecting that

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property owners are supposed to be honest and do it, but sometimes that doesn't

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happen. For example, an electrician, it's my understanding, needs a license in

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order to do electrical work in a property and that the building inspector would

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actually look at the license and say, okay, this guy's licensed to be your electrical

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work I approve, but it seems to me that we should require the meals and rental tax.

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So, ma'am?

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Yes.

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Any one that uses one of the normal groups like an Airbnb or a VRBO, it's part of your

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package that's already taken care of.

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So they do that.

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I understand that.

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But how do we know how many there?

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Do we actually keep track of that?

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No.

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We don't and this it's not a requirement of ours.

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Right.

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You just decided.

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Yeah, it's not.

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Yeah, we're not our job.

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Not our job.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else that would like to come up and speak?

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Nope.

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I'm going to close out the public hearing there with me one second.

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All right.

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Seeing no more public wishing to speak.

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I close the public hearing relating to the suggested amendments to the short term rental

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policy at 447. Now I'd like a motion.

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Mr. Chairman, I move that the Meredith Select Board adopt the amendments to the short-term

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rental regulation and fee as recommended by the short-term rental committee.

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Can I have a second?

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I'll second it.

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Thank you, Mike. Any discussion?

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I guess all those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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All right,

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now we're going to go on to item two, which is discussion of our minutes page eight in the packets.

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Next time.

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All right,

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so it looks like we have to discuss the minutes of July 27, 2026, and then the non-public for July 27, 2026.

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I believe there should be two sets of non-public minutes and we receive neither in our pockets.

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That's correct. We'll be moved to the next meeting.

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Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to accept the or to approve the minutes of July 27, 2026 Slack Board Meeting.

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Can I have a second?

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I'll second.

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All right. Any discussion on those?

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Well Rachel cleared up a bunch of my questions before the meeting. Thank you very much, Rachel.

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And the only one I have is 741. It was under, I was like, what is the word skeed? I think it came out there.

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Robert Carpenter will.

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Stead.

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Stead.

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Stead.

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It just didn't sound right to me. That's all.

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It's. It is. Is it? Okay. That's right. Okay. So no adjustment on that.

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Mr. Chairman, I have a few. Okay. Under the item, agenda item three, workshops, page

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9.74. So in the first instance, they have the spelling of Mr. Levine's name correct, but

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but then throughout his name is, unless it's somebody different, the name is spelled

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incorrectly. So I would just ask if you go through Spellcheck and fix that.

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Yeah, it's the L-A-V-I-G-N-E.

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Page 58 of 105.

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Are those still the minutes?

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What was the page number?

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508 of 105 because there's no there are no line numbers.

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No, I guess that they're not minutes.

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They're not the minutes there. This has to do with the Wood of Saki River Basin program.

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There's just some language missing so that's all I have from the minutes.

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Okay, thank you.

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I'm going to get a second as amended or with those amendments, I just wanted to ask on line

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683 it said administrative correction but there isn't anything there.

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I wasn't sure about that.

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Okay, now can I get a second with the amendment?

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on your agenda.

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All right, thank you.

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All right, all those to approve that.

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Hi, hi, hi, you guys have it.

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All right, now we'll do the July 27, 26 non-public other

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ununidentified.

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Yeah, all right, well good we're good at that.

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Okay, let

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me get to the beginning of this.

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All right,

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at this time we're going to have a,

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This will be a public update from the Hampshire Hospital. He's holding

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Wachewon Dam, who's the Wachewon Dam owner of Project Managers on Lake

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Wachewon Dam. I let works repair. This is the second meeting that we've had on

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this and it's a follow-up. So I will let you guys take over.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Chairman, members of the board, members of the public. My name's Ari Polyck, I'm

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with the law firm of Gallagher,

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Callahan and Garth Trell from Concord, Manhattan.

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And with me today is Paul Becht of HL Turner.

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You will recall that last time we were here in July,

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I was accompanied by John Levine

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and summer schedules being what they are.

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Today you get Paul, but I can assure you,

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you know, as all there is to know.

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Just by way of summary, and it's the same presentation,

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and frankly as last time, my client, Hampshire Hospitality Holdings purchased the property

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in its current condition with the mill works through the center of the property.

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And shortly after closing received a letter of deficiency from the New Hampshire Department

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of Environmental Services, Dam Burrow.

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And that letter laid out a series of items that needed attention in order to solidify the

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dam works and make sure that things were in proper working order and to remain safe.

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We then partnered with H.L. Turner to do an investigation in an engineering assessment

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of that property and the mill works and were even directed by the state to a grant availability

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through FEMA, Federal Emergency Management Administration, and were successful in obtaining

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one of the requirements of the grant was that we partner with a non-profit or municipal actor to administer the grant and the town was gracious to accept that role.

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The town has also been gracious to accept a role in storing long lead time materials at the town transfer station site and has been a willing participant in significant number of meetings, coordination efforts.

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and public notifications relating to the upcoming project.

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Paul's going to work through the slides the same as last time, but keep it short because

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I see a number of familiar faces and I think just by way of further explanation we have

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something of a project within the project.

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The project is a multi-year effort, multiple phases, multiple pieces of an overall redesign

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of the dam works and water outlet for Lake Wacuon and the project within is essentially

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making sure that what's there today can survive the duration of the project and won't fail

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us during the project.

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And so we have a series of interim steps that have now largely been taken but also at the

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direction of the dam bureau to make sure that things are stable as the majority of the

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a true project unfolds over the next couple of years.

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So I'm going to ask Paul to come up and walk you through the slides quickly and then

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we'll both be available for any questions.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Ari.

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Members of the board, thank you for inviting me tonight to speak on this project and members

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of the public.

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Thanks for showing up and listening.

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First of all, this is probably the most complex project I've ever worked on.

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It's not an easy one.

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I'm a structural engineer by trade.

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I'm a project manager for this particular project.

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And the official name is the Lake Walking On Dam Outlet Works Repair Project.

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We have, let me see if I can do this.

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What are the next ones?

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So we have several partners working with us.

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I already mentioned the town.

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Town was gracious enough to work with us to get the FEMA grant administered.

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We also have our client hampshire hospitality holding group out of Rhode Island.

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We're working closely with them and Weston and Samson who have brought on to do a lot

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of the landscape work that's going to be needed around the lower falls area and also up

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in the parking lot by the upper parking lot where the surge tank is now.

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So apparently the slide thing isn't working so we're up it.

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So as everyone probably knows hopefully you do know by now that water flows

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continuously from walkie one lake to Lake Winoposaki.

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There's no way to stop the water. It just runs every day continually.

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It runs through the canal up beyond Main Street under Frog Rock tab and

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And under Main Street, under that red building you see there, across the parking lot into

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that surge tank.

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We call it a surge tank, but the proper name for it is really a regulating tank.

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And what that tank does essentially is regulates the level of walking one lake through those

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flashboards on the left.

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Those boards can be set to regulate the level of the lake.

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it spills over those flashboards into the flume and down the falls that you see at

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the base right there next to Giuseppe's restaurant. So the project basically is

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three phases. We're going to go out to bid this September for phases one and

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two. Phase one is the lower falls area which will take us from the bottom of the

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falls up to the top of the falls.

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It will include rebuilding the flume itself,

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the wall of the flume on the left side

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as you're facing downstream.

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It will involve a lot of landscape work

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between the falls and Giuseppe's restaurant

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and it will include a new patio at the base for Giuseppe's

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restaurant.

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Phase two, which will be done simultaneously with Phase

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One is in the upper parking lot area where we will replace the old existing.

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And I can talk about that a little bit later. We're going to replace all that. You see the red line there, which designates the old pipe that runs underneath 62 Main Street across the parking lot into the search tank. That's the existing, which is way beyond a chooseful life. That's all going away. And the green line designates the new pipe, which will run from Main Street at the corner.

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of Maine and Dover across just a little bit of the edge of 62 Maine and then across the

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park a lot into the new green regulating tank where it will enter into the falls as it

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does now.

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So what happened about a couple of weeks ago, maybe beginning of June, late May, we've

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been doing a lot of constant monitoring of this regulating tank or surge tank and we've

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noticed a lot of deterioration and of late, it started to get more rapid.

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And as a result, the dam bureau can involve inspections we had, and it was determined at that time that the tank was really in deplorable condition and something catastrophic could happen.

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We needed to take measures, so at that time the dam bureau issued what they called an emergency order, a letter of deficiency.

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and gave us six tasks, five tasks that we had to accomplish by the end of July.

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Those tasks included a monitoring system on the tank, so we could monitor what was going on.

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If any movement was detected, we could get an early warning signal through our phone or on a website.

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We had to install a plate in the existing search tank,

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where the old penstock that fed the old hydroelectric turbine in the mill, where that

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exited the search tank.

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We had to put a plate in front of that to block that, to reinforce that.

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And we had to provide a means to stop the water so it should something catastrophic happen.

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And that means to stop the water isn't that little white building in the middle of the

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parking lot called the gate house.

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And what we did in there was we installed a gate that will lower down in case of an emergency.

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We can go in there and lower that gate down and stop the flow of water.

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Now, we can't stop it forever because it keeps coming.

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But it will allow us to assess the situation that goes on at the surge tank.

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We are really confident at this point that we don't expect anything catastrophic to happen.

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We have the monitoring system in place.

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We have five people that will receive text alerts or warnings on their phones or by email.

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And those five people include the chief of police, chief hopper, Robert Carpenter from the town,

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myself, Tim Mahshan from Mill Falls, and Jim Weber from the dam bureau.

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So we are on a early alert system if anything should happen.

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So those are basically phases one and two of the project, all of that work will be done in phase three which we hope to get started maybe late fall of 27, but most likely it's going to be completed in the spring of 28 and that phase three work is in the canal, just above frog rock tab and right alongside three high street.

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We intend to extend the existing culvert, which is a box culvert underneath Frog Rock

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Tavern, and run it up alongside Three High Street for another 40 feet or so, put a whole

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new trash rack structure in there.

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And the reason for extending that culvert is to take care of the deteriorating condition

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of that canal wall.

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If anyone has looked at that recently, some of the stones are kind of shifting and moving.

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And we don't want to create a situation where all of a sudden that wall where to go and now three high street is in jeopardy of undermining its foundation so we need to take care of that sooner than later.

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So that's in a nutshell what we're trying to do, what we're trying to accomplish over the next year and a half, two years.

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If anyone has any question, I know you've mostly heard all this two weeks ago, but if you have any questions, fire away.

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If there are any questions from the audience,

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please come up to the microphone and state your name and your address for us, please.

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What is the censoring system that you're using to monitor if there's a breach of the dam?

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Is it a laser sensor or what's being used?

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They're actually cracked monitors and there's two different types.

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It's a thin wire that if there's a movement detected that wire will stretch a little bit and all of these sensors.

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And you could go look at the search tank, and you can see them on there, but they send

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the signal sort of like to a modem.

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And the modem, it's all wireless, it feeds like a hotspot via a cell phone.

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So it feeds a web page that's administered by the survey company that we hired to install

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the system.

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So these two sensors are like a piano wire, potentially I'm going to piano wire, so should that stretch

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If the thing were to move, we would get a signal.

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And we've set, we pre-set two distinct levels for movement to send out these alarms and alerts.

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And those are a quarter of inch, if we get a quarter of inch of movement, we get an alert.

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If it's three-eighths, we get an alarm.

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So these are applied on all the crack faces that you've observed, the damage on?

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We have five, total.

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Five.

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Excuse me.

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Donna Murphy.

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I just wanted to know, who's watching the canal gauge?

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Who's watching how low the lake is going?

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So I checked today with Tim Maschan, who works at Mill Falls.

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He's the engineer at Mill Falls.

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And I said Tim, what's the level of walk-in on lake?

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He said, well, right now, we're between eight and nine inches below normal summer level.

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Now, I mentioned back in June, we were issued an order by the Stamburo

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an emergency LOD order.

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And in that order, item one was that

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walking one lake was to be drawn down

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six inches below normal summer level.

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Okay, we're with nine inches.

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Why the extra three inches?

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Well, if you look at the falls right now,

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you'll see highly any water coming down.

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There's just a trickle.

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So all the boards are in place.

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The reason it's dropped another three

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is basically due to Mother Nature,

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to the fact that it hasn't supplied any rainfall

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and we've had a lot of evaporation due to the warm weather.

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So that's the reason for the extra three inches.

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But we do watch it.

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We hope by keeping the boards in it

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with a little rain that will get it back

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to at least to the six inch.

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My next question would be when the canal is being worked on,

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how is the water not going to go over the falls?

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How will you keep more water from being expelled from the lake as you're working on the

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different phases of the project?

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Is there going to be something blocking the canal that the water can't come through

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until the phase is done or just wondering if you like it, it's fine.

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Okay, that would be great.

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So that's probably the most complicated part of this project is what do you do with the water?

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How do you do the work and move the water?

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So for phases one and two, what we plan to do is where you see that white gate house

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in the middle of the parking lot.

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We plan to install a pair of pipes called siphon pipes and I believe Mr. Levine may have

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spoke about this two weeks ago, but basically those will take the water from that gate house

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As it flows down through the canal and through that red pipe, it'll take the water from that gate house.

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And in those pipes, they'll run across the ground, across the parking lot, down the hill, between Giuseppe's and the falls.

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And they will empty out at the base of the falls.

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That means, well, that bypasses in place.

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We can work on the falls. There'll be no water coming down.

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We can work on the surge tank, building the new surge tank.

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and put in all the piping all the way that green piping you see all the way up to Main Street.

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We can do all that work while that bypass is in place.

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Then when that work is complete we will do the tie in at Main Street

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right at the corner of Dover and Main and that will initiate flow into our new system

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and the bypass will no longer be needed.

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Now the other tricky part comes well how do you do the work in the canal?

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well what we intend to do there is create a coffer dam in the canal to stop the

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flow and then either pump or create another siphon around the canal alongside

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frog rock tavern across Main Street and into we have a manhole that we're

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putting into that green pipe will dump it in there so that'll bypass the water

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around that area while we work the canal, so that's how we plan to do it.

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The water will continue to empty out of working one by bypasses in different ways, so it's

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not going to, you're not going to, okay, but it's not going to go too low either.

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We can't, Paul, you have to speak into the microphone because we are recording this, thank

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you.

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So, you do have the fall dry down.

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So we will do the fall dry down as planned, but that's as low as we plan to take it,

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because the water will keep coming through, and there's no plans to go below that any

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lower than that.

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This question is the actual when the project's done, the water that is flowing over the

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falls, is that like on a loop of some kind or is that actually going to be the same, we're

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still doing the same thing with the falls and the boards and all that will be the same?

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No,

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it'll be, yes we'll have a new tank to regulate flow but instead of boards we're using

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stainless steel gates with electric operators so it's going to be a much easier way of operating

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the system.

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Alright, do we have any other questions?

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Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Ed Tuadal, Neto Rube.

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Thank you for your explanation.

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You mentioned earlier a project within our project. Was that the bypass

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that you just explained or is there something else that's going on?

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Okay. And then earlier you said that

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00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:28,220
the wire covers on the cracks in the existing

459
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:36,900
tank, goes to scents alerts or warnings or whatever, which are different to five different

460
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:45,500
people, so on and so forth. I guess my question is, as we talk about, you're talking about

461
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:50,700
the potential of a catastrophic failure, that's why one of those messages is going to chief

462
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:58,060
Harper. Beyond that, if we're talking about a catastrophic failure, is there a communication

463
00:42:58,060 --> 00:43:04,900
plan in place to alert residents or workers or employees or basically human

464
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:09,740
beings in the local area. I mean if you say it's a warning something like

465
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:13,380
there's a big ship something that's about to happen that that's what comes

466
00:43:13,380 --> 00:43:17,360
to mind or maybe I'm overbowing it and that's not something that we're worried

467
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,620
about.

468
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,320
So we do have a plan it's called an emergency action plan that we've

469
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,360
drafted and all of the folks that are in the mill falls area the shop

470
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:41,020
the restaurants have all been, you know, they've been shown this plan, aware of

471
00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:46,720
this plan, and so there's certain, you know, things that need to be done as

472
00:43:46,720 --> 00:44:00,340
soon as a catastrophic failure should occur, but bear in mind, once the water

473
00:44:00,340 --> 00:44:04,340
going to be difficult to deal with that after, you know, after math.

474
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:10,880
So I guess what I'm really worried about, you know, if we're talking about a catastrophic

475
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:16,400
low percentage chance of happening, but high effect, all of a sudden we're talking about

476
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:22,120
all this concrete from this regulatory box, potentially rolling down the hill, you potentially

477
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:29,820
have collapse of buildings, like, what is the worst case scenario in the event of this catastrophic

478
00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:40,140
That's difficult. I think it would be a water situation and water carrying debris with

479
00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:45,740
it. I think people, Giuseppe's in the patio area would be affected by, you know, the

480
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:50,920
water coming down the hill. Anyone walking along the bridge would be affected. But bear

481
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,600
in mind, you know, we have taken a lot of strong measures in the last couple of weeks to mitigate

482
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,860
any of that stuff from happening. If you walk

483
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980
We're out there and look at the tank now. You'll see there's banding that's been put around it back in May. We added some steel stanchions in front of the stop logs because we were fearful that on one side where the concrete was breaking away that those stop logs may push out so we've taken steps to mitigate that. We have the crack monitors in place. We put the steel panel in in front of the plug. So I think we have a high level of confidence that we're not going to see a catastrophic failure.

484
00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:32,020
but we have to plan for something.

485
00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:34,740
You know, even if it's like a half a percent,

486
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:39,020
a chance that it could happen, we have to plan for it.

487
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,980
But I think we've taken all the right steps to mitigate it.

488
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:46,480
So, I feel pretty confident that it's not going to happen.

489
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:49,340
So, just to verify, we'd have to go back,

490
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,500
get back our nine inches to the lake level it was in the spring,

491
00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:57,160
plus, you know, another nine to 12 inches higher than that,

492
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:58,080
which the lake can handle.

493
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:04,300
So we'd have to have over 20 inches of water until we start talking about snow and ice getting in there from

494
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:08,640
Right, so we get 20 inches of rain. I think Meredith Bay is going to have issues

495
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:15,060
All of a sudden, like you don't need 20 inches of rain to fall on the lake to get it into the cracks on the pavement

496
00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:18,760
That's why we're taking care of this. No, it's it's good

497
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,640
just rather

498
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:27,740
Get out in the open that we have a plan for it and then the second question like getting away from this

499
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:35,920
this horrible scenario. What do we think the effect on normal day-to-day operations in

500
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,660
Meredith from the bypasses that you mentioned? I assume that they're, you're not obviously

501
00:46:41,660 --> 00:46:45,440
not going to put them over the middle of the road or something like that, but you'll have to

502
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,560
try extra something. Well, we might. Okay, so that's a good question.

503
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,400
Parking is a premium in Meredith.

504
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:59,320
I found that out, the many trips have come up here the last few weeks, but this time

505
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,360
the year is difficult, a lot of tourists in town.

506
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:09,760
So this project, we're planning to start after Columbus Day in early November and work

507
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,800
a lot of the time will be during the off hours of tourism which would be from November 1st

508
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,580
right up until Memorial Day.

509
00:47:17,580 --> 00:47:30,760
But there will be impacts, there will be impacts to parking, especially in the upper parking lot where the shops are, that parking lot will be pretty much closed down.

510
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:42,100
There'll be some impact to Main Street, but we think that Main Street we believe that can be still kept open for traffic.

511
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,980
they'll just be some impact when we do the tie-in at the corner of the over in

512
00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:53,680
Maine. So we don't expect any street closures, we do expect parking lot

513
00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:02,260
closures, the lower falls area, the lot that serves the shops at the corner of

514
00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:07,880
Main Street and Route 3, that parking lot there, part of that will probably be

515
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:14,580
taken for construction use. So it's basically the impact will be parking mostly. And then

516
00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:18,940
foot traffic around the lower falls will be affected because a lot of that area is going

517
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:27,340
to be cordoned off for construction activities. So that's that's I'll put you on the spots

518
00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:28,880
or thank you for your time in the clear answer.

519
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,920
Do we have any other questions? Please come

520
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,340
up to the microphone and state your name.

521
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:47,920
Ma'am.

522
00:48:48,940 --> 00:48:50,520
We have a gentleman that was ahead of you.

523
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:57,470
Henry Lysinski.

524
00:48:58,110 --> 00:48:58,570
Eight water.

525
00:48:59,330 --> 00:48:59,550
All right.

526
00:48:59,990 --> 00:49:01,850
So I can see the red and the green.

527
00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:06,070
There's pale blue under main street.

528
00:49:06,430 --> 00:49:08,010
Is that not as bad of this repair?

529
00:49:08,310 --> 00:49:09,970
Because you got phase one, two.

530
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:11,010
A gap.

531
00:49:11,570 --> 00:49:12,190
Phase three.

532
00:49:12,690 --> 00:49:13,270
I'll come.

533
00:49:13,410 --> 00:49:15,670
There's nothing between phase two and phase three.

534
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:23,110
Could you advance, Robert? Could you advance a couple slides to phase this phase one, phase

535
00:49:23,110 --> 00:49:32,770
two. Okay. Well, back up right there. So go ahead. So, in other words, is the pale blue

536
00:49:32,770 --> 00:49:41,090
section not as bad as this repair as the red sections? So to answer your question, it's not

537
00:49:41,090 --> 00:49:47,350
is bad because we had divers in here a couple years ago we did an in-depth inspection of the area

538
00:49:47,350 --> 00:49:55,710
underneath frog rock. So to the right of that slide is frog rock tavern and that section from

539
00:49:55,710 --> 00:50:05,930
frog rock across Main Street is in good condition and doesn't have to be touched. The green is what you see

540
00:50:05,930 --> 00:50:12,290
be going from frog rock to have an upstream and that's where the new box cover will be added.

541
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:17,790
But the simple answer to your question is it's in good shape and it doesn't have to be

542
00:50:17,790 --> 00:50:18,170
repaired.

543
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:25,480
Re-value.

544
00:50:25,820 --> 00:50:28,040
Representing the Merrick Lines Club in our duck race.

545
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,980
You have a rendition of what that upper parking lot is going to look like when you're done

546
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:42,920
and how much paving will be on there with the oil and upper meal falls off the over.

547
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Yeah.

548
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:56,740
So the new search tank in green will take up about three spaces, but once we've

549
00:50:56,740 --> 00:51:03,060
done everything will be like it is now except you'll be less three spaces and where that

550
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:09,140
red square in the upper right-hand corner is, that's the old search tank, regulating tank.

551
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,980
that'll be it's not going to be parking but it'll be like a little sitting area

552
00:51:14,980 --> 00:51:22,040
and it'll be landscaped in there. So basically we'll lose in three parking spaces but

553
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,000
everything else will be the same.

554
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:29,600
Okay, any other questions?

555
00:51:32,740 --> 00:51:34,000
All right, seeing no

556
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,800
one else? Oh, I'm sorry, let's write Lynn has a question right here. When do you

557
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,220
anticipate the bids going out for the third phase.

558
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,460
Let me think.

559
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,280
Probably December.

560
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,320
You caught me off guard there. I don't know.

561
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,260
So yeah, the first two phases will be September of this year coming up soon.

562
00:52:00,420 --> 00:52:07,960
And I think it'll probably be probably in the spring.

563
00:52:08,260 --> 00:52:11,360
Maybe early summer so they can do that work in the fall.

564
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,480
So it will probably be spring of summer of 27.

565
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,240
Any other questions from the board?

566
00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:30,190
Okay.

567
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:32,150
Paul, thank you very much.

568
00:52:34,850 --> 00:52:35,490
Thank you guys.

569
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:37,010
Thank you.

570
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:40,990
All right.

571
00:52:41,210 --> 00:52:42,470
At this time, we'll continue on.

572
00:52:42,610 --> 00:52:46,930
We now have Chief Jones for the Stuart's ambulance contract.

573
00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:53,980
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, board members.

574
00:52:55,420 --> 00:52:59,240
Within the last few months, I believe we started late last fall.

575
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:05,480
early winter. The Interminisable Committee began looking at the contract for

576
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:14,140
Stuart's ambulance as it was expiring June 30th of this year. And as you know at

577
00:53:14,140 --> 00:53:19,000
this point we do not have a signed contract. We have done two 30 days

578
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,220
extensions since then. There are a couple of communities I believe that have

579
00:53:24,220 --> 00:53:29,160
signed a contract but we look through the contract and there was

580
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,520
There's several discussions, obviously, on ambulance service, whereas heading.

581
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:41,560
What the proposed possible night man's to the ambulance service, a service with legislation that is happening.

582
00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:48,340
Insurance companies are certainly trying to restrict the paybacks for

583
00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:57,080
ambulance costs and that went into a discussion on the contingency fund that is placed in the area that we should push it up and

584
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:04,120
not. And what term of contract should we be signing? And giving that the last

585
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,940
couple of contracts here in merit, I believe we're five year term contracts as

586
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:14,520
well. And we stayed on that focus along with the other municipalities and felt

587
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,840
that if we received the five year contract, it was to have benefited at this

588
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,080
time.

589
00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:25,600
So you basically believe that the contract in front of you is

590
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,020
basically the

591
00:54:30,020 --> 00:54:37,220
same with a few changes and manager Milner did submit it to our attorney.

592
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:45,280
Attorney sent back a few recommendations and those were adopted and put forth in the contract.

593
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:53,100
Chief, what's the increase from last year?

594
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:58,020
The increase in 2027, I do not have.

595
00:54:58,020 --> 00:55:10,960
that's not out right now we are paying in 2026 for $406,000, $805,000.

596
00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:12,520
That was our cost for 26.

597
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:25,280
You got it?

598
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:41,400
I believe that figures out our cost to the other three towns we pay roughly 63% I believe.

599
00:55:43,610 --> 00:55:44,710
Do you have a question?

600
00:55:45,690 --> 00:55:53,890
It was just followed up to yours so you said you didn't know what the new contract price was going to know that has not been established with 27 yet.

601
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:06,160
Because Section 6A has a number but that's just the current number we're using through next year for next July, correct?

602
00:56:06,540 --> 00:56:07,280
Right. Okay.

603
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:16,860
I believe we have asked to receive that by November 30th. I believe it's writing in here for that.

604
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:17,760
Okay.

605
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:26,070
Any questions from the board?

606
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,140
I just, I'll just send it is by not going out to bed for different services.

607
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:43,920
Anybody has that in mind? I think that's the right choice. A neighboring community along the

608
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Rachel Lake region area here to that a year and a half, two years ago. And they're paying for it now.

609
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:58,340
Okay. By going out to bed. And I know the wish of the board right now is not

610
00:56:58,340 --> 00:57:02,120
want to do a fire EMS service here within this community.

611
00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:05,040
So I think this is the right step forward.

612
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:10,920
Thank you, Chief.

613
00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:23,650
I guess I could ask anyone had a question on that.

614
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:26,780
All right, I'll take that as a note.

615
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,400
OK, now we're going to go into our agenda items for business.

616
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:37,060
Our first one will be the Winant Pusaki River Basin Program

617
00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:38,980
Transition Legislation.

618
00:57:58,410 --> 00:58:00,850
Here today has got the possibility of transitioning

619
00:58:00,850 --> 00:58:02,970
from Winant Pusaki River Basin Program

620
00:58:02,970 --> 00:58:04,830
to a regional wastewater authority.

621
00:58:05,650 --> 00:58:08,290
As we've been exploring this important opportunity,

622
00:58:08,410 --> 00:58:10,670
our goals to better understand the potential benefits,

623
00:58:11,250 --> 00:58:12,710
challenges, governance structure,

624
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:15,050
and long-term implications, such a transition

625
00:58:15,050 --> 00:58:17,510
could have for the member communities

626
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:20,590
and the wastewater infrastructure that serves our region.

627
00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:22,890
To help guide this discussion,

628
00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:24,150
I'd like to introduce Wes Anderson,

629
00:58:24,790 --> 00:58:26,590
Chair of the Winner-Psyched Rivers Waste Program

630
00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:29,130
and Advisory Board, the extensive knowledge

631
00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:31,150
of the program, history, operations,

632
00:58:31,150 --> 00:58:47,710
and future challenges has made him a valid resource for member communities as chair West continues to provide thoughtful leadership, strategic guidance, as the WRBP evaluates opportunities to strengthen regional wastewater services for the future.

633
00:58:48,850 --> 00:58:56,590
As we begin the process of developing a committee to study the potential transitions of the WRBP to a regional wastewater authority,

634
00:58:56,830 --> 00:59:04,770
West is here to answer any questions you may have, provide historical perspective, and help facilitate informed discussions regarding the opportunities,

635
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:08,570
challenges and benefits associated with this important initiative.

636
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:11,470
Please join me in welcoming West Anderson.

637
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,060
So, I am Wes Anderson, Chair of the Winner of the Software Advice and Program, and I'm

638
00:59:24,060 --> 00:59:25,980
also a project manager for the City of LaCoya.

639
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:33,840
We started the effort back in 2018 to work through the process of how could we get better.

640
00:59:35,220 --> 00:59:41,320
We have all the support we needed, and we were having some pushback from the Department of

641
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:41,800
Environmental Services.

642
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:49,300
Over the last year or so, they've had problems managing the program such that we're in the

643
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:52,260
vicinity of about $1 million wasteful spending.

644
00:59:53,580 --> 00:59:58,580
In meetings with the commissioner and the staff, basically it was determined that with the

645
00:59:58,580 --> 00:59:59,900
current situation but

646
01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:29,920
So, there are now supporting us in our effort to convert from a Department of Environmental Services program. It's 100% funded by us to a regional municipal waste water authority that would also be 100% funded by us. They assisted us in actually in the November timeframe, getting it into the legislature.

647
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,900
legislation as an amendment to create this study commission and the whole purpose of the study commission is identify those areas

648
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:43,300
Where there may be issues in regards to executing the transition and most of the ones we've looked at so far

649
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:51,540
I deal with the personnel the bonding that the state has already executed how do we transfer that and then the actual transition face itself

650
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,980
Right now we anticipate that some time in the next

651
01:00:57,980 --> 01:01:03,960
Next month, the study commission will be formed and will start the process for it.

652
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:08,760
And by the legislation, that commission has to finish its work by the end of October

653
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,140
with a report to get to the legislature on the 1st of November.

654
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:13,900
So it is fast.

655
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:21,200
And that really, the object of that is really what they concerned about and how they want

656
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:21,720
to do it.

657
01:01:22,660 --> 01:01:27,380
The reason why we're pushing it is to get rid of the wasteful spending, but we also

658
01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:34,460
was a study back in 2015 said by going away from a state-run system to a regional system,

659
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,880
we could be saving between 5% and 15% annually and managing the cost of the program.

660
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:47,860
So that's really why we're pushing it and to help with the transmission or transition,

661
01:01:47,860 --> 01:01:53,500
I should say, the state included in that legislation that created the study commission

662
01:01:53,980 --> 01:01:56,720
an executive director position that's unclassified.

663
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,780
So basically that put a closer to the salary range of someone we need to actually be able

664
01:02:01,780 --> 01:02:06,320
to run the program and transition for being state run to municipal separate wastewater

665
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,900
authority.

666
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:16,420
So between the support that we're getting from the commissioner, what we've seen, the legislature

667
01:02:16,420 --> 01:02:19,680
the current reps for the City of Laconia are in favor of it.

668
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:27,240
We're asking for all the municipalities to go to their legislatures and get support

669
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,920
of them to help us with this program going forward.

670
01:02:32,140 --> 01:02:39,900
Right now, Laconia will officially do it or agree to it on August 24th.

671
01:02:40,060 --> 01:02:45,140
Guildford already has said yes, Belmont has said yes, so we're getting through the process

672
01:02:45,140 --> 01:02:47,200
of getting all the communities in support of it.

673
01:02:47,660 --> 01:02:49,160
That way, when we go to the commission,

674
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:51,300
we can say all the communities support it.

675
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:53,060
And if everything goes right,

676
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,080
the communities will work with their state reps

677
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,480
and state senators, so they're on board,

678
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,520
so it will speed up the process of the actual conversion.

679
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,320
And we think it'll be about a two-year process

680
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,300
sorting through everything from gradually taking it

681
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:09,400
from the Department of Environmental Services

682
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,040
to the regional wastewater authority.

683
01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:14,240
subject to your questions.

684
01:03:18,050 --> 01:03:18,450
Go ahead.

685
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,660
Did I understand you correctly that you expect there will be a cost savings?

686
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Once we get everything transition wise, the sudden that took place in 2015 said we have

687
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:37,480
a between a 5 and 15% savings between how the state runs it and how a regional authority

688
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,820
would run the program.

689
01:03:39,820 --> 01:03:46,820
Basically, it's the difference between managing as regulators and managing it as an organization

690
01:03:46,820 --> 01:03:51,560
that's managing risk versus dollars to be able to keep the program running while not

691
01:03:51,560 --> 01:04:00,640
keeping it up to 100% operating without any chance of being at risk of penalty from EPA.

692
01:04:02,140 --> 01:04:06,600
Robert, how big a budget item is this off

693
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,540
the top of my head.

694
01:04:10,540 --> 01:04:14,360
and it's close to about eight or $900,000.

695
01:04:18,110 --> 01:04:20,090
I can't tell what your percentage is,

696
01:04:20,210 --> 01:04:22,410
but of our sewer fee for the City of Oconia,

697
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:24,870
60% of what we collect goes to pay

698
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:27,110
for the Wimposaki River Basin Program.

699
01:04:28,270 --> 01:04:31,910
It is the majority of the sewer budget every year,

700
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:33,230
by far.

701
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,640
This may be an odd question,

702
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:42,520
but who owns each town's system?

703
01:04:43,060 --> 01:04:44,720
Okay, so there's two pieces to it

704
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:55,220
and gets a little complicated with one of the lines in Meredith, but Meredith has the collection system that then feeds into the regional collection system that takes it to the plant.

705
01:04:56,300 --> 01:05:08,840
Now, in some cases, and I want to say six of the municipalities don't quote me, there's either sections of pipe or pump stations where there's a disagreement of who owns what.

706
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:15,700
And I'll just say in the Lakonia side of the house because I know that more is when they show us the documents that say they're it's in a

707
01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:20,420
Lane that they own were more than happy to take it but until they show us

708
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:27,420
It's in land that we can actually fix it. We're not really interested in taking it over at this time

709
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,340
So that's one section. What about the other section? Oh

710
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:38,300
I mean, I don't like to say I don't know the others, but yeah on Lakonia side of the house, which is peace

711
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,380
is I'm going to get technical half-sector paper streets.

712
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,240
If you know I'm talking about this,

713
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,560
we don't know who owns it, we have no right to use it.

714
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,640
Some of the lines go through paper streets.

715
01:05:49,660 --> 01:05:51,200
So we need to see the documentation

716
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,240
that they've actually use eminent domain

717
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,800
or some form to take over and have established right away

718
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,080
or easement for those systems.

719
01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:03,820
Would we be opening ourselves to concerns?

720
01:06:04,660 --> 01:06:06,720
I don't know if we're not a state.

721
01:06:06,820 --> 01:06:07,780
I don't know from your standpoint,

722
01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:10,080
but we're going to have to address it one way or the other.

723
01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:13,340
The issue of what they're going to have to do is part of the transition.

724
01:06:13,340 --> 01:06:16,320
They're going to have to give us all the documents that say,

725
01:06:17,300 --> 01:06:19,460
this is the easement that it goes in.

726
01:06:20,060 --> 01:06:22,320
And so that's going to be part of the check process to make sure

727
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,200
we have the legality of maintaining the system.

728
01:06:25,740 --> 01:06:29,080
So what happens if it's fine through community A or B,

729
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,620
but community C doesn't get the same experience?

730
01:06:31,620 --> 01:06:34,140
Well, that's a piece we're going to have to work out between the state

731
01:06:34,140 --> 01:06:38,440
and what will be the transition authority because we'll have to go to the

732
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:43,260
property owners to get the proper documentation. Thank you. Yeah.

733
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:46,420
Thank you

734
01:06:46,420 --> 01:06:52,000
us. I know you've been working on this for many many many years. Yes.

735
01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:55,060
What

736
01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:59,440
actually are you asking us tonight to agree to? Okay, so we want you to

737
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,320
support the transition. That's the transition or the commission the

738
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:11,060
Can I see that when the commission comes up we want to be able to say to that commission all the municipalities support the transition from the

739
01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:17,000
deaths to the regional waste water authority. That's what we're asking for one

740
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:23,700
And then when the different phases come in we're asking for the support of the the communities again

741
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:27,280
when it goes to the legislature as a whole and then when it goes to the governor

742
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,940
So the governor's got to be able to sign that last legislation that actually executes the transition

743
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:43,480
Okay, and so the community, six to eight, I think there are, I just know from past history

744
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:49,880
working on this that there's at least one community who's working hard on that one.

745
01:07:50,180 --> 01:07:54,700
And so what happens if you don't get 100% does that work?

746
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,020
We are objective.

747
01:07:56,220 --> 01:08:00,760
Is it going to get 100% but we're recognizing that we may not get one and we're still going

748
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:06,720
try pushing it from that standpoint does our current analysis is we only have one that

749
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:14,500
may be at risk so you would pretty much they would have you would force them correct

750
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:24,660
okay so is the let's say three years from now the regional planning authorities in place

751
01:08:24,660 --> 01:08:27,980
does every community get the same vote?

752
01:08:28,420 --> 01:08:32,260
Yes, the intent is, the intent right now is one community, one vote.

753
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:44,560
Okay. And you mentioned that the state is having issues with personnel.

754
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:56,380
What makes, I don't want to say this, why would we not have the same issue?

755
01:08:56,380 --> 01:09:01,240
I understand you said unclassified and maybe that would change the amount, but is it just

756
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,600
one person running this?

757
01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:08,120
Even the ones who work in the plants and whatever, so they're going to remain the people

758
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:08,300
who work.

759
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:12,440
The actives for them to move over to us, so we already recognize that we're going to have

760
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:17,200
to look at our salary structure and the benefits associated with it, because quite simple is

761
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:22,360
after they get them trained up on the desk rules for it, a lot of them will look to other

762
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,600
in the area who are looking for that skill set

763
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,380
and are paying for more.

764
01:09:26,940 --> 01:09:28,360
So we know we're in competition

765
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,700
with other municipalities who run wastewater treatment

766
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:34,560
systems to be able to retain people and hire people.

767
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:37,160
And the problem with the state system

768
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,380
is they don't have that flexibility

769
01:09:38,860 --> 01:09:42,500
to change grades and pay structures to do that.

770
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:49,260
Where is the actual regional on site, I guess, in Franklin?

771
01:09:49,260 --> 01:09:52,000
Is that where the employees will be?

772
01:09:52,660 --> 01:09:55,600
The employees right now are in two major locations.

773
01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:59,860
The people who work the plant are in the Franklin wastewater treatment plant.

774
01:10:00,140 --> 01:10:06,060
The ones who work the pump stations and the basically the underground systems are actually

775
01:10:06,060 --> 01:10:12,680
in the pump station that's on Water Street in La Conia, right by the boat launch into

776
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,080
Winnesclaw.

777
01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:17,540
And DS is now supportive of this, huh?

778
01:10:17,540 --> 01:10:19,520
Yes, it is now in support of a vote.

779
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,300
That's interesting.

780
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:27,000
We sent that letter of concern back in November of last year.

781
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,500
And I will say it got the attention of the senior leadership.

782
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,720
And they looked into what was going on.

783
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,240
And they determined they couldn't fix it.

784
01:10:36,980 --> 01:10:42,300
And does that not scare you that if they can fix it, that we can't?

785
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,920
Why? It gives us more flexibility for it.

786
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:51,220
And the other piece is they're not until I want to say about two months ago they weren't

787
01:10:51,220 --> 01:10:55,000
really paying that much attention and how to fix it and we keep beating them up for it.

788
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:59,040
So now as of today we have finalized review of it.

789
01:10:59,180 --> 01:11:01,660
We have an interim management improvement plan.

790
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:07,100
What are they going to do to ensure they have proper supervision of it to get the management

791
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:12,440
structure in place even if it's temporary that makes sure all the projects are going well

792
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:17,060
And then all the task orders are written and they're not wasting spending and how they rate their task orders

793
01:11:18,700 --> 01:11:24,820
So just to reiterate for today all you're looking for because this is a business item

794
01:11:24,820 --> 01:11:31,160
So you're looking for a vote from us to support the idea of the transition correct

795
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:39,680
And then we're waiting to see what comes out of this report in October correct and the reports more of a technical one

796
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:44,940
We don't anticipate that there'll be much of a pushback from the legislature.

797
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:51,000
It's more of what things that they worried about that we need to make sure we're keeping in the transition plan.

798
01:11:55,610 --> 01:11:56,190
Anything else?

799
01:11:59,930 --> 01:12:01,350
I don't have any further questions.

800
01:12:02,730 --> 01:12:12,470
I actually, I'm sorry, I have one more and this is for, I don't know who put the document together that we received.

801
01:12:14,610 --> 01:12:22,270
but there appears to be something missing. If you look at page 58 of 105.

802
01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:29,540
Page 58.

803
01:12:29,740 --> 01:12:34,440
58 of 105. They're at the very bottom. They're two bullet points.

804
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:36,420
Yeah, it looks like they didn't get page two of it.

805
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:36,680
Right.

806
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,400
If you see a one way, I do it. You would have seen it too.

807
01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:46,620
Oh, yeah. So, oh, I see.

808
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:55,540
And then the next one is the one that we did for the transition meeting that we had with the city managers and the town administrators.

809
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,660
So is there anything critical that's missing?

810
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:58,900
There isn't.

811
01:12:59,020 --> 01:13:14,840
This was more of a talking points that we gave to the representatives, the board members, so we could use that to talk with people like your select board.

812
01:13:16,420 --> 01:13:23,940
There's nothing different between this and what's only one that's titled Coneist City Manager starts on page 59.

813
01:13:24,460 --> 01:13:28,260
That's more of an in-depth one that we use when we had the meeting to go through everything.

814
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:29,540
Okay, thanks.

815
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:43,210
And the packet does include the letter of concern to the commissioner as well as the recent non-support letter for a project because we weren't concerned they could execute it.

816
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:44,490
Thanks, Wes.

817
01:13:44,750 --> 01:13:44,950
Okay.

818
01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:46,990
Thank you.

819
01:13:46,990 --> 01:13:47,270
So

820
01:13:54,060 --> 01:13:56,740
there is a motion in the packet.

821
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:01,720
We haven't discussed this as a group.

822
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:04,140
So any conversation?

823
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:07,780
Is there any questions from the public?

824
01:14:08,420 --> 01:14:09,280
That was a good idea.

825
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:10,600
Any questions from the public?

826
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:14,940
We have Phil here.

827
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,160
Phil can answer those questions.

828
01:14:25,220 --> 01:14:30,280
So we either have a motion where we'll have to pass on it and bring it up for a review

829
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:31,740
again in two weeks.

830
01:14:35,660 --> 01:14:36,900
Just real quick, Mr. Chair.

831
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:43,600
I think the concern was that they needed this before your next meeting falls after the

832
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,000
timeline in which they needed this.

833
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:50,140
Is that correct Phil?

834
01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:56,360
So, you only get one bite at this apple.

835
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
Mr. Chair. Yes, Mike. I move that the Meredith Select Board, Meredith, support the transition of the one Pasaki Basin program from the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services to the Regional Wastewater Authority, owned and managed by the member communities, and authorize the town manager to support the transition with any of the Meredith State representatives, senators, and when it is under consideration by the study.

836
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,860
commission, the legislature, and the governor.

837
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,420
Thank you. Can I get a second?

838
01:15:35,740 --> 01:15:36,060
Second.

839
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,040
Thank you, Jim. All those in favor?

840
01:15:39,540 --> 01:15:39,640
Aye.

841
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:40,300
All right.

842
01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:41,520
All right. The eyes have it.

843
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,840
Thank you very much, Phil, for bringing that in.

844
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:45,360
Thank you, West.

845
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:48,140
All right. Now we're moving on to Crystal.

846
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,260
Crystal Elpers from Parks and Rec.

847
01:16:03,110 --> 01:16:03,850
Good evening.

848
01:16:04,590 --> 01:16:07,610
I really don't have anything more to add from the workshop,

849
01:16:07,890 --> 01:16:10,870
but I'm certainly welcome any questions that you may have.

850
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:14,090
if you have anything in hopes that you make a motion.

851
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:25,820
So I believe the discussion is, there's a couple of options for paying for the balance

852
01:16:25,820 --> 01:16:31,880
owed for the park, which by the way, every time I go by it's nice to see dozens of

853
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:32,680
kids out there.

854
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,300
It is going very well down there for sure.

855
01:16:43,610 --> 01:16:53,040
So the plan of it, are we going to talk about the shielding tomorrow at our meeting?

856
01:16:53,620 --> 01:16:53,700
Yes.

857
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:54,000
Okay.

858
01:16:54,260 --> 01:16:54,360
Yes.

859
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,200
I just wanted the part about that.

860
01:17:22,910 --> 01:17:23,490
Do you want me to move?

861
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:24,070
Yes.

862
01:17:24,210 --> 01:17:24,350
Please.

863
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:32,390
I move that the mayor to select board authorized the expenditure of 96,343 from the parks

864
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:40,490
and Recreation Expendable Trust Fund to fund the remaining costs associated with the installation of Pesquet Park.

865
01:17:42,930 --> 01:17:43,910
Can I have a second?

866
01:17:44,990 --> 01:17:45,510
Second.

867
01:17:46,270 --> 01:17:47,390
All those in favor?

868
01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:47,890
Aye.

869
01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:48,550
Aye.

870
01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:49,610
Those opposed?

871
01:17:50,210 --> 01:17:50,810
Nobody?

872
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:51,750
So the eyes have it?

873
01:17:57,210 --> 01:17:57,790
Thank you, Crystal.

874
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:03,620
Okay.

875
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,780
Now we have Plano La Breque.

876
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,180
Somewhere here in the room.

877
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,100
Private and Class Six Roads Policy.

878
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:12,160
Thank

879
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:20,240
you Chairman, members of the board, Angela Lebreck from planning and development.

880
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:29,960
So at our last meeting we workshopped this item and it is for the purpose of adopting a,

881
01:18:32,300 --> 01:18:39,800
oh it looks like the top might have got cut off on mine, for the purpose of adopting a

882
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:49,320
class 6 and private road road policy and this is for the building of new homes or developing

883
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:56,160
on these roads and this was a template handed to us from Attorney Sullivan and his recommendation

884
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:02,340
is to adopt this in order to help streamline the process of issuing building permits

885
01:19:02,340 --> 01:19:10,540
two people on private roads currently if you're on a private road and it has not

886
01:19:10,540 --> 01:19:16,740
previously been reviewed and approved by the planning board then in order to

887
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:20,980
obtain a building permit it will have to go to the planning board for review and

888
01:19:20,980 --> 01:19:28,580
comment and then go to the select board for approval of that building permit so

889
01:19:28,580 --> 01:19:32,440
that could be a two-month process, potentially.

890
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,920
By the time they get on the agenda,

891
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,580
go to the meeting of the planning board

892
01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:39,440
and then come here.

893
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:46,680
So in order to streamline that, the road policy

894
01:19:47,860 --> 01:19:55,740
was put together when I met with director Hale and chief

895
01:19:55,740 --> 01:19:56,180
Jones.

896
01:19:57,420 --> 01:20:02,640
There was essentially just a couple of sections that weren't templated that we needed to insert

897
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:03,840
information into.

898
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,160
And that would be number one in the policy.

899
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,780
No building permit shall be granted by the board on a lot which does not have a minimum

900
01:20:12,780 --> 01:20:14,140
of 50 feet of frontage.

901
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,860
And so that's our minimum road frontage requirement for subdivisions.

902
01:20:18,860 --> 01:20:25,160
And so that's why we kept consistent with that and inserted it in there.

903
01:20:25,780 --> 01:20:30,880
The second would be the number three, the minimum road standard for class six highway

904
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:35,720
or unapproved private road used to access a building site under this policy shall have.

905
01:20:36,380 --> 01:20:46,140
And then it's NFPA chapter 18 requirements of a road having 20 foot width, a vertical clearance

906
01:20:46,140 --> 01:20:54,340
of 13 and a half feet and at least a certain depth that could hold our emergency apparatus

907
01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:00,340
in addition to an adequate turning radius at the end or at some point.

908
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:10,000
And that would be basically handed to somebody who wanted to build on a private road and if

909
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,280
they met those requirements then they would come here for their building permit and not have

910
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,580
to go to the planning board first.

911
01:21:20,190 --> 01:21:21,030
All right. Thank you.

912
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:21,570
Do we have questions?

913
01:21:21,570 --> 01:21:22,310
Yes, do you have questions?

914
01:21:22,530 --> 01:21:28,150
I also, there's also Ken and Craig in the audience.

915
01:21:29,490 --> 01:21:30,270
Oh, he did.

916
01:21:31,070 --> 01:21:32,470
Oh, he was just there.

917
01:21:35,450 --> 01:21:36,230
Yeah, he was.

918
01:21:37,010 --> 01:21:38,330
Have you used that excuse before?

919
01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:44,580
So I can try to answer any of your questions if you have them.

920
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,320
I did mention at our workshop there's 111 private roads.

921
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,840
the far majority have been reviewed and approved in our on a subdivision

922
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:01,420
plan recorded at the registry of deeds. So of those 111 we have approximately a

923
01:22:01,420 --> 01:22:06,940
dozen that were not approved by the planning board. So it's a small fraction. I

924
01:22:06,940 --> 01:22:11,360
was worried at first when I pulled the list and saw 111 private roads.

925
01:22:15,150 --> 01:22:15,990
Thank you.

926
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:19,430
Okay. You're welcome. So we have a motion.

927
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:46,380
Certainly.

928
01:22:46,940 --> 01:22:53,440
What to Angela, what does that do for us as a board in making decisions?

929
01:23:00,060 --> 01:23:06,820
Is there some of the? So by statute, it says that here's the different

930
01:23:06,820 --> 01:23:11,640
circumstances that the town can issue building permits. And there's one that

931
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,920
basically says if you're on a private road, then you need to consult with the

932
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:20,980
planning board and then go get your building permit from the select board, unless you have a road policy.

933
01:23:24,290 --> 01:23:28,330
So if you set out the road policy and they meet it, it's direct drive here.

934
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:34,090
If not, then they have to go to the planning board and the planning board say, well, 18 feet good or not or something like that.

935
01:23:34,350 --> 01:23:37,550
So this is, we had one recently in the last couple of months.

936
01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:41,150
It's the first one that's popped up and probably forever.

937
01:23:41,930 --> 01:23:47,850
We did and that was on because initially I think when Tim met with you guys,

938
01:23:47,850 --> 01:23:53,550
He said all building permits on private roads should need to go through this process

939
01:23:53,550 --> 01:23:59,090
So this is a process and then he and I met and I said well if you're back up a few paragraphs at the beginning of the statute

940
01:23:59,770 --> 01:24:02,030
It says if you have

941
01:24:02,850 --> 01:24:09,410
If you're on an approved subdivision plat by the planning board. That's one circumstance that you don't need

942
01:24:10,810 --> 01:24:13,610
To go to the select board

943
01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:15,150
so

944
01:24:15,150 --> 01:24:21,390
So we kind of read through it and thought about it some more, and it's not nearly as

945
01:24:21,390 --> 01:24:25,030
many as he initially thought it was going to be when you guys first met.

946
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,560
So this would probably be a slim done on?

947
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,360
Yeah, this is not going to happen a lot.

948
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:32,280
Okay.

949
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:33,120
Thank you.

950
01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:33,480
Yeah.

951
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,360
Please.

952
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:51,640
I just wanted to say I'm not excited about this.

953
01:24:52,340 --> 01:24:59,640
I do, I guess, would like to have a conversation with the attorney just to clarify a few things

954
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:00,180
for me.

955
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:05,060
So, if we take a vote on this tonight, I wouldn't be supporting it.

956
01:25:05,740 --> 01:25:06,120
Okay.

957
01:25:12,590 --> 01:25:19,070
Mr. Chair, I move to approve the policy for building on class six highways or private roads,

958
01:25:19,690 --> 01:25:21,670
which have not been approved by the planning board.

959
01:25:22,650 --> 01:25:22,990
All right.

960
01:25:23,250 --> 01:25:23,830
Can I get a second?

961
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:24,790
Oh,

962
01:25:30,980 --> 01:25:38,880
I'm of the same mindset. I just I think I'd have to have another conversation with

963
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:44,420
our attorney. Okay, we have a. So do

964
01:25:47,180 --> 01:25:50,040
I have a second thing?

965
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,820
Okay, well then I will request

966
01:26:00,820 --> 01:26:06,920
that we table this and we will schedule a time with attorney Sullivan.

967
01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:11,190
Can you withdraw your

968
01:26:11,190 --> 01:26:12,050
motion please.

969
01:26:13,690 --> 01:26:14,610
Motion is withdrawn.

970
01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:15,390
Thank you.

971
01:26:17,540 --> 01:26:17,820
Okay.

972
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:19,920
Next is appointments.

973
01:26:20,380 --> 01:26:20,920
Town appointments.

974
01:26:21,980 --> 01:26:23,720
We should have a list in front of us.

975
01:26:28,730 --> 01:26:29,110
Mr. Chair.

976
01:26:29,670 --> 01:26:29,830
Yes.

977
01:26:30,130 --> 01:26:31,710
I can vouch for the zoning board appointments.

978
01:26:31,710 --> 01:26:32,870
There's two great members there.

979
01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:35,010
And they think they have their letters.

980
01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:42,530
Looking for the list.

981
01:26:43,450 --> 01:26:45,310
Can we make this all in one motion?

982
01:26:45,570 --> 01:26:47,230
I was going to say can we do this all in one motion?

983
01:26:47,330 --> 01:26:49,630
Because I think we probably know everybody in here.

984
01:26:50,170 --> 01:26:50,730
Is that a fair?

985
01:26:50,730 --> 01:26:58,050
I move the merit select board reappoints the following Dania Whitney planning board Matt slum chuck chuck

986
01:26:58,050 --> 01:27:04,050
zoning board jack norcott zoning board Paul Dylan conservation commission

987
01:27:05,530 --> 01:27:07,330
A10 Wolfson

988
01:27:08,590 --> 01:27:15,110
Sure, I butchered that conservation commission can wet Mackler conservation commission

989
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:19,790
Mark Billings, Conservation Commission, Alternate, Ed Twadow,

990
01:27:20,050 --> 01:27:26,130
the Third Conservation Commission, Alternate, Ralph Pissapia,

991
01:27:27,370 --> 01:27:29,450
Conservation Commission, Alternate.

992
01:27:30,350 --> 01:27:33,830
I'll second it. All right. All those are favour?

993
01:27:34,230 --> 01:27:34,390
Hi.

994
01:27:35,310 --> 01:27:36,010
Do I have it?

995
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,460
I think we've come to the town manager's report.

996
01:27:47,860 --> 01:27:52,380
Sure. So, Judy had put together the town, her town manager report

997
01:27:52,380 --> 01:27:57,260
highlighted the important parts and so welcome aboard to Olivia Petito for the

998
01:27:57,260 --> 01:28:02,960
police officer, one of the news newly sworn in officers last week. Shoutouts to

999
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,560
Jared Wyatt for obtaining his EMT certification. Shoutout to Sawyer Jones for

1000
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,600
obtaining his EMT certification. Lieutenant McLaughlin has attended the second of

1001
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,320
three FBI Leader Trilogy courses. This is their executive leadership institute.

1002
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,760
And congratulations to Meredith PD on Monday, August 3rd, 2026. The

1003
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,860
the Meredith Police Department's work in three new police officers, Officer Richard Orr,

1004
01:28:25,940 --> 01:28:32,060
a veteran certified officer, an officer, a Tyler Stokowski, an officer Olivia Petito,

1005
01:28:32,260 --> 01:28:35,320
both un-certified officers, beginning their law enforcement careers.

1006
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,100
With these additions, the department has reached full staffing for the first time in several

1007
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:39,520
years.

1008
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:43,960
Officers Stokowski and Petito will attend the New Hampshire Police Academy, and if all goes

1009
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,900
as planned, are expected to complete their training and be ready for solo patrol duties

1010
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:49,280
before June, 2027.

1011
01:28:50,020 --> 01:28:53,780
Reaching full staffing is a significant accomplishment for the Department and the town of Meredith.

1012
01:28:54,280 --> 01:29:02,820
The addition of these officers' strengthens our ability to provide quality public safety services while ensuring the Department remains well positioned to meet the needs of our community.

1013
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:09,160
The Water Filtration Project, we won the appeal and this project will be funded.

1014
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:11,900
Congratulations to Superintendent Bordeaux.

1015
01:29:12,220 --> 01:29:14,480
Funds will be available in January 2027.

1016
01:29:14,480 --> 01:29:18,980
and they were currently working on a plan with DES to deal with lead time for the replacement

1017
01:29:18,980 --> 01:29:24,100
equipment which takes 12 to 16 weeks and getting the project complete before the 2027

1018
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:29,700
busy season. For disc golf director Albers and resident Cody Burns, they'll still conducting

1019
01:29:29,700 --> 01:29:34,720
the survey, but wanted you to have the attached information to consider before the next workshop

1020
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:40,320
at a future meeting. And for the 9-11 Memorial ground breaking for project will happen any

1021
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,120
time and we still don't have the confirmation for the governor fundraising is

1022
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:49,460
almost at our goal with greater than $38,000 raised to date. WMER was on-site at

1023
01:29:49,460 --> 01:29:54,060
the end of July filming was done and WMER is expected to do a special on 9-11

1024
01:29:54,060 --> 01:29:59,960
projects through the state to err on September 10th ahead of the ceremonies and that

1025
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,260
That was the end of her highlights. You'll see the discol information farther down, farther in the back of the packet.

1026
01:30:08,650 --> 01:30:13,730
All right. Thank you very much. All right. At this time, I'll open it up to visitors or residents for any comments.

1027
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:24,460
Okay. I'll now go on to select board reports and comments.

1028
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:39,520
Michael. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Very quick question. Credit card machines. Are those still up and working? I mean, like the dump in the town, we've had the glitches. Are those

1029
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:45,780
back online or are they online? I'm sure they are. They're online. Craig did

1030
01:30:45,780 --> 01:30:48,380
reach out and say that they're having some issues at the dump and it's been

1031
01:30:48,380 --> 01:30:53,860
off and on. Christina is looking into that to see why they're not working. We

1032
01:30:53,860 --> 01:30:58,180
go through JP Morgan Chase for that part so it's not necessarily a system

1033
01:30:58,180 --> 01:31:01,820
issue as it may be a payment issue on their end, but she's looking into that and

1034
01:31:01,820 --> 01:31:12,780
that reset. Thank you. So it's probably late but I did ask the time manager to see if Craig

1035
01:31:12,780 --> 01:31:18,940
Hale from DBW the director could swing by because we have discussions in some clarify questions

1036
01:31:18,940 --> 01:31:23,860
and I notice he's here tonight so I don't know if maybe he would have a minute to answer a couple of

1037
01:31:23,860 --> 01:31:24,300
my questions.

1038
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:38,580
Thank you director Hale Craig Hale public works director. Yeah so we've gone along

1039
01:31:38,580 --> 01:32:04,620
We've got a couple of buildings and some properties that, you know, what are we going to do with, and we've had a discussion, Judy's got a thing about space needs, and one of the things is, let's sell the DPW building down on Route 3, and I've noticed on a conversation in the past that that building is kind of vital to your, to your space, and I did sit on the committee for the new DPW building.

1040
01:32:04,620 --> 01:32:11,020
I think it started when I first joined, it took a long time to get to that point, and I think I've talked to Craig a couple of times.

1041
01:32:11,420 --> 01:32:21,920
Nobody knows about phase two that the property was left to add a bigger building to house some of the vehicles, so spaces for Craig and whatnot.

1042
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:31,400
So I guess one of my questions is, what do you do with that building would make it so that it's vital to you, because it's more than just a sign shop, correct?

1043
01:32:32,380 --> 01:32:37,460
So, the building, the blue building, as we call it, the old police station is,

1044
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,840
vitality of it is our buildings and grounds operation is technically out of that.

1045
01:32:42,940 --> 01:32:47,700
The employees go to the New Highway Garage, the break space locker rooms, all that facility.

1046
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:53,900
They do have a connex in the back where they store some outside things where we used to have a connex in the blue building.

1047
01:32:53,900 --> 01:33:01,060
and but the blue building is their shop and it also is any supplies that they have anything

1048
01:33:01,060 --> 01:33:05,560
from nuts and bolts, wires, any repair work, the toilets, it's all storage for that.

1049
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:13,340
Lights for Christmas, it's all stored in there, paints, anything that they need to do maintenance

1050
01:33:13,340 --> 01:33:19,860
wise, battery chargers for all their equipment, it's all different rooms within there and

1051
01:33:19,860 --> 01:33:26,320
And then on the cleaning side, there's a whole closet where we keep toilet paper, where we keep paper towels.

1052
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,820
If they're not kept in town hall, I know it keeps them down in the basement.

1053
01:33:30,140 --> 01:33:34,760
But for supplies for other buildings, all the cleaning supplies come to there.

1054
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:43,980
And then they get stored in so that when they go out and if they get placed out, it's a place that's warm where things won't freeze because a lot of it's liquid items.

1055
01:33:45,380 --> 01:33:51,800
There's another room that's all specifically for electrical and irrigation that's stored in there.

1056
01:33:51,980 --> 01:33:54,120
And then on top of that, we do have the sign shop.

1057
01:33:55,160 --> 01:34:00,120
I know when we think of sign shop, we think of just the sign templates so you can buy some.

1058
01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:02,940
You can have others definitely make signs.

1059
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:09,280
But we have so many signs that seem to be specific to the town of Meredith on especially like the new parking.

1060
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,500
like we've changed those signs.

1061
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:13,520
I don't even know how many times.

1062
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,920
Taken them down, redoing them, putting them up.

1063
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:17,720
But the other thing that we've done recently

1064
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,520
on the request of the select board

1065
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,600
is we've ledered every vehicle for the town emeritus

1066
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,320
except for any emergency things police and fire.

1067
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,140
So all the departments with the vehicles

1068
01:34:30,140 --> 01:34:31,460
that now have the lettering on the side,

1069
01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:32,200
we did that in-house.

1070
01:34:32,260 --> 01:34:34,020
It would be a huge cost to the town emeritus

1071
01:34:34,020 --> 01:34:34,940
just to complete that.

1072
01:34:35,300 --> 01:34:37,360
So anytime we get a new vehicle, we bring it in.

1073
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,480
And we're able to do those processes out of there.

1074
01:34:41,060 --> 01:34:45,540
And then we have a large amount of, and we are working on going to electronic storage,

1075
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:49,460
but there's some things that probably wouldn't be able to maps for roads.

1076
01:34:49,660 --> 01:34:56,520
We have some property maps, we have road files, we have driveway permit files.

1077
01:34:57,140 --> 01:35:05,480
Every piece of equipment, which to Monica's credit, we have back to like 1970 of equipment that's,

1078
01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:08,980
But we don't need things like that, but we have a very good filing system.

1079
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:15,180
Every record that's done is kept solid waste, all the regulations, all that.

1080
01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:17,220
Everyone, everyone of those has its own file cabinet.

1081
01:35:17,380 --> 01:35:20,480
There's a lot of space if you were to go in there and look at it and

1082
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:22,320
see what's in there.

1083
01:35:22,420 --> 01:35:27,780
There is a meeting space where I sit down quite often with people that come in that might have a set of plans and things.

1084
01:35:27,980 --> 01:35:29,800
So it's a very operational building.

1085
01:35:30,340 --> 01:35:36,700
We do have three empty offices in there, but Monica and I take up two.

1086
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,740
There's a whole front desk area, which we don't have anyone sitting at currently.

1087
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,100
There's another desk next to that.

1088
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,340
But that's all part of that storage area.

1089
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:52,800
It's a very active building as far as our buildings and grounds.

1090
01:35:53,180 --> 01:35:54,480
They're in and out of there all day long.

1091
01:35:54,480 --> 01:35:59,020
So when they they'll even like a picnic table look if they bring it back to repair it

1092
01:35:59,020 --> 01:36:02,220
They bring it inside they can work on it if they put them staying on it

1093
01:36:02,860 --> 01:36:07,200
Especially in the winter time. It's a warm space. It gives it time to dry before they take it out to sit

1094
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:07,720
so

1095
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:12,840
There's just there's a space need with that the highway garage as it exists now

1096
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,660
Doesn't have really any place that can handle all that. It's a very

1097
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:18,480
Well-thought-out

1098
01:36:19,060 --> 01:36:24,360
Area for the highway department and the mechanics of taking care of the entire town's fleets and

1099
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:33,220
equipment. So, and then the break area is, I know like some have come in and

1100
01:36:33,220 --> 01:36:37,260
thought it's really big where it is, but if you saw out all the staff in

1101
01:36:37,260 --> 01:36:42,220
there at once, we have 27 roughly. You see people are reading on their laps

1102
01:36:42,220 --> 01:36:45,700
on the outer edges, you know, things like that. We just don't have a big enough

1103
01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:49,320
area for all of them. If they happen to be coming in to take a break on

1104
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:53,100
site. So, there are some that will go over to the kitchen area of the

1105
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:58,320
building as well like Sarah with cleaning she'll take a break over there if

1106
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,960
Jen's working in that area or anyone working there they'll take their

1107
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:08,100
breaks there so it kind of spreads people out a little bit too so does that

1108
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:12,220
answer more than what I was supposed to say but no it kind of sums up our

1109
01:37:12,220 --> 01:37:17,400
building but then it adds that you have space like three extra offices and I

1110
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,320
think I might even have been you where someone said well why not move

1111
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,340
we're putting them down there and get rid of the NX.

1112
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:25,260
And to me, that sounds like a pretty good idea

1113
01:37:25,260 --> 01:37:28,040
because that building's been identified as something

1114
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,260
that, you know, it should come down.

1115
01:37:31,420 --> 01:37:32,360
It's been problematic.

1116
01:37:32,620 --> 01:37:34,020
We've had it tested in the past, we're mold.

1117
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,680
And I kind of think that, you know,

1118
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,220
everything on one health is what we want to move to someday.

1119
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,820
And I think we've identified also that trying to

1120
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:45,540
lose the 12 parking spot.

1121
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:46,940
The main street's getting more congested.

1122
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,200
It's getting harder for people to get into the town.

1123
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,860
the older people and I'm heading that direction so I'm kind of maybe looking

1124
01:37:53,860 --> 01:37:57,280
out for myself in the future but I mean the parking scenes I mean it was an

1125
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,280
interesting idea and like I said I heard it and it might have even been

1126
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,960
come from you in a conversation but what's your thought as you think I'm gonna get

1127
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,680
into your space and Judy's not here well to talk about when she gets back but it

1128
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:14,400
seemed like a really good idea to explore and explore hard well I mean I I find

1129
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:20,180
it's it's difficult to find parking anytime you go to town hall or or they

1130
01:38:20,180 --> 01:38:24,500
A&X parking over at the blue buildings, very easy.

1131
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,860
The worst condition to building we have is the time A&X.

1132
01:38:28,940 --> 01:38:30,780
I don't think anyone's unaware of that.

1133
01:38:31,420 --> 01:38:32,320
It needs a lot of work.

1134
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:34,140
I've watched since I've been here,

1135
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,400
a lot of it get denied over the years.

1136
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:37,660
So there's been some things presented

1137
01:38:37,660 --> 01:38:39,720
and it's just went up putting the money to that.

1138
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:45,200
While we're at the point now that it needs a major rehab.

1139
01:38:47,740 --> 01:39:05,160
So, so I recall back when your the blue building was the police department and I was actually on the committee for the new police department and remember walking through that building the

1140
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:11,090
court used to be there I think at one point there was a court.

1141
01:39:11,090 --> 01:39:17,450
And so we built the new PD and moved everyone out.

1142
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:22,690
But I recall there's being some issues about the ground.

1143
01:39:23,070 --> 01:39:26,570
Is everything stable over there, would you say?

1144
01:39:26,990 --> 01:39:27,290
It is.

1145
01:39:27,370 --> 01:39:29,190
It's on a pad.

1146
01:39:29,630 --> 01:39:33,130
But all the years, I actually had my office over there

1147
01:39:33,130 --> 01:39:36,390
because of my direction of looking

1148
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:37,950
to become the public works director.

1149
01:39:37,950 --> 01:39:46,570
I use my office out of there and to work closely with Mike and Monica to learn and I have never seen any shifting.

1150
01:39:47,010 --> 01:39:48,370
We replace the roof.

1151
01:39:48,850 --> 01:39:52,930
I want to say it was probably four years ago now with a metal roof.

1152
01:39:54,190 --> 01:40:09,910
So what, so Mike, you're thinking about moving, planning, and development, is that what you're saying over to, do they have space of the DPW for that to accommodate that?

1153
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:19,690
So I definitely thought that through on my head before as well, and it's, it does. I mean, we have three, three offices, the section has an office,

1154
01:40:19,690 --> 01:40:30,110
but he's never there, he utilizes the office over, and it's a heated building at the cemetery, and he's been very rarely, even when he meets people, he meets him at the cemetery.

1155
01:40:30,550 --> 01:40:35,870
And you have been without a front desk person for quite a while now, right?

1156
01:40:36,110 --> 01:40:36,290
Yes.

1157
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:47,290
Because I recall this board putting money back in the budget so that you would have a person being the largest department in town government with the most divisions,

1158
01:40:47,290 --> 01:40:55,070
Yeah, you don't have a front office person, so if we moved planning and development, there

1159
01:40:55,070 --> 01:41:03,030
could be some efficiencies, I would think, use of the same person, right?

1160
01:41:04,010 --> 01:41:09,450
Yeah, I mean, I will say that our two departments definitely send people back and forth.

1161
01:41:09,790 --> 01:41:15,170
I definitely get a lot of calls or people showing up that they were at planning and development

1162
01:41:15,170 --> 01:41:15,610
first.

1163
01:41:15,610 --> 01:41:19,670
And then we get people that come to us first and then we send them to planning and development.

1164
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:23,710
So there is a lot of that, but we get that with the water department as well.

1165
01:41:25,670 --> 01:41:34,310
And, but having, for us having someone at the front, it definitely keeps Monica from being interrupted quite often.

1166
01:41:35,170 --> 01:41:44,110
It certainly would help with that having someone there to a face as you walk in versus ring the bell type of thing for someone to come from the back.

1167
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:57,170
But it has the space, as far as offices go, have to really look at filing, you know, how much filing there is with planning and development.

1168
01:41:57,590 --> 01:42:06,330
And configuring whether or not that same space that the filing cabinets are used could also, but, you know, if I think about it, it's quite a big space.

1169
01:42:06,330 --> 01:42:11,950
we have a drafting table, certainly, I have never used it, I've really never seen it

1170
01:42:11,950 --> 01:42:14,230
used, their space there that that could come out.

1171
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:18,610
So there's definitely a strong potential for that.

1172
01:42:20,470 --> 01:42:26,210
And the building needs, as far as I'm concerned, for the blue building, it really just needs

1173
01:42:26,210 --> 01:42:33,810
some siding work, whether it gets recited, and then when you look at the town annex, you're

1174
01:42:33,810 --> 01:42:34,890
We're going to get into the structural work.

1175
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:50,570
As soon as that roof is leaked for a long time, as soon as you start peeling that back, the plywood is going to find rafters eroded one likely or weakened all the way down to the base, that deck front porch looks like it's about ready to crumble right off the building.

1176
01:42:50,570 --> 01:43:02,230
So I just think it's something personally that as a director that should be definitely reviewed to better space needs.

1177
01:43:02,230 --> 01:43:10,090
I've set it in our meetings that my big concern is buildings and grounds and having a workable operation for them.

1178
01:43:10,270 --> 01:43:17,330
I'd hate to see them working out of a few con-exes and just for now until we find out what the final plan is.

1179
01:43:17,330 --> 01:43:26,090
I just think it's better suited, you know, if that's what you guys are asking to, kind of really think that out as far as our needs are.

1180
01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:36,250
Yeah, I do too. Thank you, Craig. I think it's what seriously looking into, you know.

1181
01:43:37,890 --> 01:43:39,110
Thank you very much.

1182
01:43:41,340 --> 01:43:44,360
Mike, you have any other? That's it. All right, Jeannie.

1183
01:43:53,990 --> 01:44:06,410
I received an email from a resident asking about the town reviewing the tourist-train horn

1184
01:44:06,410 --> 01:44:07,950
blowing policy.

1185
01:44:09,970 --> 01:44:15,070
The tourist-train horn blowing policy.

1186
01:44:15,070 --> 01:44:20,310
The noise reverberates off the water and is amplified on the east shore of Merit Bay.

1187
01:44:21,470 --> 01:44:23,090
When it goes by your...

1188
01:44:23,090 --> 01:44:23,230
Yeah.

1189
01:44:24,010 --> 01:44:31,970
And so basically this person and I can forward the email to Judy is asking the town to

1190
01:44:31,970 --> 01:44:40,210
take a look at if there are any regulations or no noise ordinances that would apply.

1191
01:44:40,210 --> 01:44:46,950
So I will, that's, I'm making a request on behalf of the resident and I will send that to Judy.

1192
01:44:50,830 --> 01:44:59,970
I also want to thank Lynn Layton because I know she wouldn't say it herself.

1193
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,460
I think she's been a huge part of raising the money for the 9-11 memorial, which started out as being a $20,000, $25,000 project and I think quickly doubled. And this one, you know, jumped right in and started raising money. And I think you've hit the goal and really appreciate your efforts on that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

1194
01:45:29,460 --> 01:45:30,580
Lynn,

1195
01:45:37,660 --> 01:45:38,420
can you follow up on that?

1196
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:41,340
We exceeded.

1197
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:48,160
So Mike and I attended the Walk You On Watershed meeting

1198
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:49,340
on August 4.

1199
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:54,340
The Historical Society event was also

1200
01:45:54,340 --> 01:45:56,580
on the 4th of August.

1201
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,580
And it was so informative about the village of Meredith.

1202
01:46:01,300 --> 01:46:05,920
And we have an important UNI, have an important playground

1203
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:14,140
meeting tomorrow evening at 5.30 here and just to remind people of cone with a

1204
01:46:14,140 --> 01:46:23,980
cop is on the 18 at town docs 5 to 8 and I forgot one if I could jump back in

1205
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:31,120
CIP so I'm on the CIP committee Steve I think you're the alternate I know that

1206
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:42,520
but we're working on some spreadsheets that I've asked the town manager to make sure that this board would have a chance to review at least twice before it goes to CIP.

1207
01:46:43,340 --> 01:46:59,720
I'm feeling like maybe they're running behind. We've asked the manager if we're on schedule and what I would ask is, and I guess it's, I'm asking the CIP committee,

1208
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:07,340
I want us to consider since Roberts here pushing off that first CIP meeting on the 23rd of

1209
01:47:12,540 --> 01:47:19,860
September to September 30th because I would really not want to have I really don't want to have

1210
01:47:19,860 --> 01:47:27,160
an extra select board meeting and I really want to see the CIP spreadsheets before the first meeting so

1211
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:32,140
I can work with the board on that, just a quick question on that.

1212
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:39,280
So, usually, historically speaking, the CIP committee has gotten this sheet, gone through

1213
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,840
the sheet, gone through the planning board, and then to the select board.

1214
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:46,080
And then this iteration, you're going to the select board first.

1215
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:50,180
So, just so when I reach out to the committee and let them know what the schedule's going to be,

1216
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:56,320
so that they feel like their input is being, have some value to it,

1217
01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:00,700
rather than being usurped before they actually get the information.

1218
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:03,860
Is there some explanation as to why the change in the process?

1219
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,860
So I wouldn't say that they've been usurped.

1220
01:48:06,980 --> 01:48:08,780
I'm not sure I would use that word.

1221
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,740
But the process has changed.

1222
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,260
You know this process has been led by Dave Thorpe,

1223
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,200
who gave us a really excellent presentation.

1224
01:48:18,940 --> 01:48:22,020
And the process has changed.

1225
01:48:22,020 --> 01:48:24,180
It's including financial data.

1226
01:48:24,180 --> 01:48:32,180
It's including kind of financial planning relative to projects which this board has worked really hard on goal setting and

1227
01:48:32,900 --> 01:48:39,720
The master plan and we would like to I would like to and we had asked this before with Judy when she was here

1228
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,420
And there was no pushback at that time

1229
01:48:41,420 --> 01:48:51,580
So I'm not sure why there's pushback now. Okay. I just I think I think it would be who of us as a board to see how this all ties together

1230
01:48:51,580 --> 01:49:00,140
Oh, no. There's no pushback. I just so the CIP committee members are going to ask, you know, why the change in process and so when I have to reply to them

1231
01:49:00,140 --> 01:49:09,020
I just want to give them some kind of understanding or some kind of explanation. But and I appreciate that, but this is a little different because we've

1232
01:49:09,020 --> 01:49:15,740
Incorporated a new piece into it, which we've never done before. Right. We have never done the long-term planning portion. Correct. Yeah.

1233
01:49:19,070 --> 01:49:23,290
I don't think there'll be any issues with pushing the date back, but I'll work with the committee on that.

1234
01:49:23,290 --> 01:49:33,170
Okay. Great. And she we had asked to be able to take a look at it at least twice before then so right that shouldn't be an issue. Okay. Great. Thanks.

1235
01:49:34,670 --> 01:49:36,150
Back to you.

1236
01:49:38,570 --> 01:49:42,290
Johnny. I'm sorry. No. No. It's just this one.

1237
01:49:43,090 --> 01:49:51,890
So while we have the board together, I have to get back to the marital home day parade committee.

1238
01:49:53,670 --> 01:49:58,190
I don't think you're going to be here on the 19th of September.

1239
01:49:58,810 --> 01:49:59,430
That is correct.

1240
01:50:00,050 --> 01:50:03,710
So we should be in that parade.

1241
01:50:04,610 --> 01:50:07,910
Can we use the truck that we use that?

1242
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:08,510
Absolutely.

1243
01:50:08,910 --> 01:50:10,290
If you want that, it's yours.

1244
01:50:10,850 --> 01:50:13,250
Steve, can you drive that truck?

1245
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:14,030
Okay.

1246
01:50:14,450 --> 01:50:14,670
Okay.

1247
01:50:14,950 --> 01:50:16,170
And who else is going to be in it?

1248
01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:28,790
So I can fill out the registration for us to be in it.

1249
01:50:28,810 --> 01:50:29,410
Okay.

1250
01:50:29,570 --> 01:50:30,170
Okay.

1251
01:50:30,650 --> 01:50:31,550
Thank you.

1252
01:50:32,670 --> 01:50:33,270
Jim.

1253
01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:34,850
No further comments.

1254
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:35,490
All right.

1255
01:50:35,650 --> 01:50:36,590
Thank you.

1256
01:50:36,590 --> 01:50:37,170
Steve.

1257
01:50:37,490 --> 01:50:37,650
Sorry.

1258
01:50:37,970 --> 01:50:38,330
One more.

1259
01:50:38,590 --> 01:50:38,710
Yes.

1260
01:50:39,950 --> 01:50:41,650
I have my notes everywhere.

1261
01:50:42,510 --> 01:51:11,630
So August 24th I'd like to see if we could put on the agenda to hear from the 250th committee we had promised to come back to you to talk about the time capsule and the time capsule has been purchased but the committee will be meeting and putting together a proposed plan that we would like to put in front of the board at their next meeting so that if there's any feedback from the board.

1262
01:51:11,630 --> 01:51:16,290
the board or any changes that can be done before old home day.

1263
01:51:18,990 --> 01:51:19,870
Now I'm done, I swear.

1264
01:51:20,150 --> 01:51:20,530
Okay.

1265
01:51:22,900 --> 01:51:23,440
All right.

1266
01:51:23,660 --> 01:51:26,000
And I have, I don't have anything currently to add.

1267
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:32,100
So with that, I will call the meeting and set up.

1268
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,500
Sorry, I would like to call a non-public.

1269
01:51:36,020 --> 01:51:36,780
Yes, thank you.

1270
01:51:36,820 --> 01:51:40,000
We're going to, we are going to move into a non-public session at this time.

1271
01:51:43,110 --> 01:51:44,070
And I will read it.

1272
01:51:44,990 --> 01:51:51,130
I move the Meredith Select Board, enter into non-public session under RSA 91-A32, colon A.

1273
01:51:52,290 --> 01:51:56,130
We'll dismiss a little promotion or compensation of any public employer that is disciplining

1274
01:51:56,130 --> 01:51:59,910
of any such employee or the investigation of any charges against him, or unless the employee

1275
01:51:59,910 --> 01:52:04,170
effect it has a rate to public meeting, and request that the meeting be open in which case

1276
01:52:04,170 --> 01:52:05,410
your request shall be granted.

1277
01:52:06,770 --> 01:52:08,930
I shall call for a roll call vote.

1278
01:52:09,290 --> 01:52:09,390
Mike.

1279
01:52:10,170 --> 01:52:10,530
Yes.

1280
01:52:10,970 --> 01:52:11,230
Genie.

1281
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:11,550
Yes.

1282
01:52:11,550 --> 01:52:18,430
Lynn, Jim, myself, yes, we will take a two-minute recess if needed.