1 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,080 James, did you get my email? 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,480 » Well, I just asked if you wanted to like brainstorm together. 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:30,240 » Okay. >> Okay. 4 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:36,120 » No, that's fine. I just didn't know if that was an 5 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:36,120 accurate email address. And that's fine. 6 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:58,640 It is 4:30 on Thursday, January 22nd, 2026, and I call this meeting of the 7 00:00:57,199 --> 00:01:03,680 Marine Historic Preservation Commission to order. Roll call. Blaine Johnston 8 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,840 here. Haley Stewart >> here. 9 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,280 » James Mon >> here. 10 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:11,840 » Heather Jakamo. >> Patrick Giddings 11 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,119 » here. Ken Fes >> here. 12 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:19,520 » Harold Wilson. Thank you. Adoption of the agenda. 13 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,280 » Mr. Chair, I move that we adopt the agenda. 14 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:24,479 » And I second that. >> Motion by Commissioner Giddings, second 15 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,600 by Commissioner Freeze for adoption of the agenda. All those in favor say I. 16 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,680 » I. >> Opposed. 17 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:36,479 » Motion carries. Thank you. Uh approval of our minutes from our 18 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:41,759 December 12th special meeting of historic preservation commission. 19 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,720 » Mr. Chair, I u move that we uh adopt those minutes. 20 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:48,560 » Chair, I move to second that >> motion by Commissioner Freeze, second by 21 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:53,759 Commissioner Mom for approval of our minutes of our December 12th meeting. 22 00:01:51,680 --> 00:02:00,240 All those in favor say I. >> Opposed? None. Motion carries. Thank 23 00:01:56,399 --> 00:02:06,240 you. Uh new business. Um as required by city code, we are to elect chair and 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:12,160 vice chair uh first meeting of the calendar year. So, that's our first rule 25 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:16,080 of business today. Um, if the commission sees fit, I'll serve as another deer as 26 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:19,879 chairman. Do we have any other nominees? 27 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,959 Hearing none, nominations are closed. 28 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,800 All those in favor of having Blaine Johnson serve as chairman for Mur HBC 29 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,640 say I. >> I. 30 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:39,920 » I opposed. Hearing none. Thank you. nominations for vice chair. Commissioner 31 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Giddings has decided to step down from his that position for the year. So, 32 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:51,800 we'll accept nominations for vice chair. >> Mr. Chair, I nominate Ken Fes to be vice 33 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,800 chair. 34 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:57,760 » I second the nomination. >> Motion by Commissioner Giddings, 35 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:03,760 seconded by Commissioner Wilson to nominate Commissioner Fes to serve as 36 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:08,000 vice chair for 2026. All those in favor say I. 37 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:11,440 » I opposed. None. Thank you. Congratulations. 38 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:16,560 » Thank you. [laughter] >> Um we'll go on to item three, approve 39 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:22,000 projects consultant proposals for the water tower national register 40 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:28,720 nomination. Um so I think everybody read the email that 41 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Cassandra put out um to go through that. Uh, Cassandra, do you want to bring that 42 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:35,400 up just so everybody could see that force, please? 43 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:44,360 » Mr. Chair, the system looks a bit different and I'm having a little bit of 44 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,360 trouble pulling up the right window. Um, 45 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,159 this is strange. Um, 46 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:55,080 I guess I can screen share my whole screen. 47 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:02,599 Does that work? No. 48 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:29,080 No, we can just go through the points if you're having problems. Let us 49 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:39,240 » I'm so sorry that this is I'm It's not letting me screen share from 50 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,240 the PDF window. Um, 51 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:08,080 well, of course, I have it up on my screen and it's not sharing for you 52 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Um, I apologize, but I know the 53 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,800 commissioners do have the scoreeet in, um, I sent them through email this 54 00:05:13,919 --> 00:05:19,680 morning. Yep. >> There was a pretty clear um, top pick by 55 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:25,440 almost every single commissioner for the Arow Rock Group's proposal um, by quite 56 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:31,560 a bit. Um, they averaged uh, 96 points out of 100, whereas the next closest was 57 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,560 88 points out of 100. 58 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:43,560 And their proposal cost was remind me again 59 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,000 475. 60 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:58,360 » Sounds like someone's double-checking to pull it up. 61 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,360 » Yep. 62 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,080 That was 7475. Is that what I heard? 63 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,360 their official total came down to $7,475. 64 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:54,960 And with that, um, because of some work that Miss Shifter 65 00:06:51,199 --> 00:07:00,880 did on behalf of the commission, um, we have that 66 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:07,120 paid for by another firm, um, as part of a agreement between developers are on a 67 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:12,880 10mi project. It's going to cover up uh, part of a canal and a pre-application 68 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:20,400 meeting with Shipo. Um the developers agreed to pay HBC $7,500. 69 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:24,880 So they our our cost to do that has been covered by a developer. 70 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:32,160 So but with that we still have to approve um tag to do the work and 71 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:38,199 Michler start the contract and pay and approve an expenditure not to exceed 72 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,199 7475. 73 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:44,400 » Mr. Chair, >> Mr. Giddings, 74 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:49,440 » in our last meeting, did we outline exactly what this was, what it's for, 75 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:55,120 and what our process was? I think maybe for the record, we need to back up a 76 00:07:52,479 --> 00:07:58,720 couple of steps and explain what it is we're doing here. 77 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:03,199 » The the request is I guess it was start back 78 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:07,039 with Shipo that we got notification from Shipo that they would like to see the 79 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:14,639 water tower listed on the national registry. So, Shipo is behind the 80 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:19,520 nomination for that. So, um they they determine it's eligible for 81 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:24,479 listing. So, our what we'll do is we'll hire the consultant to do all the 82 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:29,680 paperwork, leg work to have the nomination ready for us, then send to 83 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Shipo for Shipo to review, then to send on to National. 84 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:37,680 » Correct. And so, an RFP was sent out and we had four responses. Correct. 85 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:42,159 » Correct. Miss Schiffler, go ahead. >> Mr. Chair and commissioners, um I can 86 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:46,080 speak to that. Yes, I um Shipo uh sent me a list of consultants. Um I sent it 87 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,959 out to I think about six different consultants. I gave them uh timeline 88 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:55,120 information about the water tower. Um I didn't include the uh anticipated budget 89 00:08:53,839 --> 00:08:59,040 initially, but I got some questions about that. And so I responded to 90 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:02,640 everyone to let them know um the same sort of details so everyone had the same 91 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:06,080 information and then uh created a scoreeet rubric for all of the 92 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,600 commissioners which you all have uh scored. Thank you very much. Um 93 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:16,160 tabulated the results and that's where we came up with the um the um tag was 94 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:19,279 the highest uh consultant. Does that does that cover? 95 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:23,880 » Yeah. Yeah. I just think I just think we need the record, right? 96 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:37,080 So, do we have a motion to have [clears throat] Tag start the work? 97 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:47,680 And you can phrase it however you want. Well, since TAG was the the high scorer, 98 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:51,760 uh I then I guess I would make the motion that since TAG was the high 99 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:57,120 score, then I would make the motion that that um our vote is that TAG would be 100 00:09:55,279 --> 00:10:02,560 the ones that do the work. I I'm presuming, Miss Shiffler, that the it 101 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:07,120 the final decision rests with the city of Meridian since the contractual 102 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:11,680 obligation is between the city of Meridian and TAG. Is that correct? Yes, 103 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:16,560 but the city will go with what the what the commission um the highest scoring 104 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,680 applicant that the commission uh or what they recommend in this case. 105 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:21,600 » Then I make a motion that we recommend that TAG do this work. 106 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:27,920 » Okay. >> And I second it. 107 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:33,040 probably need for the record to not only have them do the contract or do the 108 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:38,399 contract with tag, but ultimately approve an expenditure not to exceed the 109 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,560 $7,500 7475 because that'll all be done this year. 110 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Correct. And so my motion would be that it 111 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:52,240 » the cost through tag would not exceed the 7475 that tag put in their 112 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,440 submission. >> Okay. And I second that. 113 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:00,079 » All right. Motion by Commissioner Gidding, second by Commissioner Freeze 114 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:06,560 to have contracts signed with the Yout Group and for an 115 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,360 expenditure not to exceed the 7475 per their proposal. All those in favor 116 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,959 say I. >> I. 117 00:11:10,079 --> 00:11:21,040 » Opposed? Hearing none. Carries. Thank you. Um we will go on to next item. Um 118 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:25,440 provide review provide comment. Um, this came about. I was just I get the 119 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:31,440 applications for the city and I saw this application on the um, city's website. 120 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:35,680 So, I kind of did a quick check on it. The properties are listed in Icris. So, 121 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:43,519 we're going to have some work on this later on. But anyway, um I drove out 122 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:48,880 past the site and I didn't see anything first glance of of of 123 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:53,279 historical significance per se that we want to try and and save. But if you 124 00:11:51,040 --> 00:12:00,720 looked at the packet that came out, there is a a tutor home on that property 125 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:06,320 that's got some nice character on it. Um at least document it and get some good 126 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:12,800 photographs of that. Um the application will go before the city 127 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:16,760 um in March. Um Mr. Ner, are you there? 128 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:27,279 I don't see him. He was there earlier. >> He is online, but um 129 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:31,600 » I am okay. >> Oh, there he is. 130 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:34,240 » Camera issues, but my sound is working. >> Bill, I've got a question for you. Yes, 131 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:39,040 sir. >> Um, on this application, 132 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:42,639 » um, can 133 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:47,600 I'm just say me as as chair of the commission go before the the city 134 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:54,399 council at this time of application and ask for u approval from the landowner 135 00:12:50,959 --> 00:13:00,959 for us to document at least some of the buildings, the tutor home that's there 136 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:05,760 uh, prior to approval. Is that possible? >> You what? You're asking if you can go to 137 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:09,600 the council to ask them to go to the property owner to ask for permission. 138 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:14,240 » Correct. As part of a condition of approval. 139 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,880 » Um, well, I don't think you need the 140 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:21,600 council's permission to go to the property owner and ask them for 141 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:26,160 permission to take pictures. I think the commission can do that, 142 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,519 » but we just need to get a hold of the land owner then and get permission. We 143 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,720 just we just can't trespass. But we can go ask for Absolutely. Yeah. No, you 144 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:35,600 can't trespass, but I don't think you need the council's permission to do 145 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,320 that. >> Okay. 146 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,480 » You just want to double check. >> Yeah. Yeah, you can do that. 147 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,720 » Okay. >> The council ultimately will appro has 148 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:48,800 Well, um I think the council do we I'll have to 149 00:13:47,279 --> 00:13:52,639 ask Cassandra. Do we normally put the these contracts on the council agenda 150 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,959 for approval or because the commission has a budget? 151 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:02,639 » Mr. Mary, sorry. Could you repeat the question? Yeah, I don't recall if we 152 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:08,000 normally put the council put the contract like for tag on the council 153 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,120 agenda for final approval or because the commission has their own budget they can 154 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:15,000 approve it. I don't recall. >> Not typically. Um 155 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:24,399 does the commission want professional photos for these or is this um something 156 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:28,880 that a commissioner might like to do if if we had permission to take photos? I 157 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:31,120 think it's just something a commissioner could go out and take you to do it. 158 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,120 » Yeah. >> Yeah. I've done a lot of architectural 159 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,839 type photo photography in the past. >> As long as you have permissions from the 160 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:41,040 property owner, it's fine. I mean, I would just tell them I think you've done 161 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:46,720 that before, Blaine, like you've done that when we were doing the um when we 162 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,959 were doing the stuff with the property, the vag 163 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:54,880 with the silos, but I I hit that one with the preapp meeting. So, I I was 164 00:14:52,720 --> 00:15:01,360 able to ask them directly at the time. >> Yeah, that's true. Um, but yeah, if what 165 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:05,600 we'll do is I'll just have Miss Shiffler write him a letter, email it if 166 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:08,480 possible, asking permission for a commission member to go out and take 167 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:11,199 photographs if that would work. >> Um, and Mr. Chair and Commissioners, we 168 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,880 do actually have the planner on the project at our meeting here. Um, 169 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:22,079 and um, is that something? >> Yeah, Nick, that you would be able to 170 00:15:19,199 --> 00:15:25,760 ask the property owner if um, the commissioners could go out and take some 171 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:30,720 photos. Yeah, I can certainly ask the property owner um for them. 172 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:35,120 I'll ask the applicant and I'll ask the current property owners. Um do you know 173 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:38,560 if it's on is a house that you guys are discussing on the Choi property or the 174 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Thrusten property? >> I'd have to go back and look at the 175 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:47,279 Well, the address is 4925. As I was going through the application, 176 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:51,040 I wrote that applica that address, but it's the tutor home that's that's on 177 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,959 that. So 4920, it's at 4925 Franklin. 178 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,800 » Yes. >> So that property is actually not 179 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:03,839 included on this application and will be remaining Oh. 180 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:07,600 » as a county property until the lady who lives there. Um 181 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:12,079 » Okay. That was just including that whole >> correct. Yes, it was. So they put a 182 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,720 concept plan over it to show how it could integrate in the future. So that's 183 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,800 probably what you saw. >> That's what I saw. 184 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,480 » It's the two properties just to the west of that threat included in the 185 00:16:18,079 --> 00:16:23,120 application. >> All right. 186 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:26,120 That makes a lot more sense. So um never mind. 187 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Um any other discussion on that um development application 188 00:16:37,199 --> 00:16:45,440 hearing? None. Uh we can go on to old business 189 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:51,279 um elongated coin machines. I have sent out another 190 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:55,040 text emails to Josh Evers. Let me double check real 191 00:16:53,360 --> 00:17:02,199 quick before I say anything. I have not heard back yet on making sure that he 192 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,199 wants to be the sponsor on that. Um, 193 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,959 Commissioner Freeze, I don't remember what the price of that was. Do you 194 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:11,839 remember right off hand? >> Um, I think with uh shipping, delivery, 195 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:15,199 the whole thing, I think it was around 6,000. 196 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:18,160 » Okay. Can we hold off for one more month 197 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:22,640 before we make a decision? Sure. >> I just want to I want to make sure that 198 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:26,079 that Mr. Evers is in agreement with what we do want to do and probably need to 199 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:35,600 get it in writing. Um that he will be the sponsor just to cover our bases. 200 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:40,880 So, um with that, uh social media sub apologize to the commission. I slipped 201 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:45,520 through this one passed on me. So, give me another month to get some people 202 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:52,160 together to form that subcommittee and so we get started on doing that. Um, and 203 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:58,160 then Miss Shiffler, what's the time frame on the ADA requirements for social 204 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,360 social media accounts for the city? Do you remember? 205 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:04,160 » Mr. Sure. And commissioners, I'm already um attempting to do everything in 206 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:08,480 compliance with it currently, even though the um required requirements 207 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:12,960 don't go into effect until April 1, but we are already doing everything we can. 208 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:17,280 » Okay. Thank you. Um 209 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:24,720 with that, we'll go on to planning for drug preservation month in May. Um 210 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:30,400 Commissioner Wilson, you had some information. I lost it. 211 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:34,720 uh too much paperwork. Um, 212 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:40,960 Commissioner Wilson had some thoughts. Um, we also had some thoughts. Um, the 213 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:45,919 Idaho chapter of the Oregon Trails Association sent Miss Schiffer a 214 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:51,360 newsletter on old Oregon trails through the area. And 215 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:58,320 I thought that might be an interesting topic um for preservation month if they 216 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:02,880 could do a presentation here at city hall when we do a walking tour. Um 217 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:08,240 Commissioner Wilson, what were your thoughts on on what you presented? 218 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:12,880 » Yeah. Well, um these are just ideas that I've been thinking of over the past 219 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:17,600 month. And so obviously just kind of some different ways that we could 220 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:22,480 involve the community in history month as well as trying to tie it to America 221 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,640 250 in some way. >> Okay. 222 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:29,919 » I don't think all of these idea uh there's five that I suggested. Um I 223 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:34,400 don't think all of them maybe do as good of a job, but uh one that I would say 224 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:39,760 I've been following up a little more on is number three, Voices of Meridian. Um, 225 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:46,000 I've been in contact with a few people who are uh in their late 70s or early 226 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:50,480 80s who grew up here in Meridian. And I thought it might be a nice event to just 227 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:57,440 have them talk about what life was like when they were very very young growing 228 00:19:53,120 --> 00:20:02,640 up here and how it's changed. Um, now I don't know. I think that could be 229 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:09,200 part of a a celebration of just, you know, how people's lives have changed 230 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:18,000 for good or for sometimes not so good. And then um how we need to um kind of 231 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:25,440 collect those ideas before they're lost and um that's part of the commission 232 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:28,960 maybe in their mission. Um, I I I'm trying to remember I think how to 233 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:36,000 phrase this. The qu I know the Bass Museum has gone around and they had one 234 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:41,679 of their staff visit Bass community members all over the the area and they 235 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:46,320 videotaped them and got oral history from the Bass community. Is it are you 236 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:51,120 thinking audio and vis on video just audio file or what are you thinking? 237 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:55,760 » Yeah. Well, I I was thinking um if we're having events in in May to celebrate 238 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:59,679 that, it would be like a panel um that they would come and people could ask 239 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:05,120 questions about what things were like. They could have some prepared comments 240 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,000 um and we could sponsor that at a location around here somewhere. 241 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,960 » Okay. >> But I also like that idea of recording 242 00:21:09,919 --> 00:21:15,360 for posterity. >> Yeah. Yeah. To have something in in for 243 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,799 record for what it's like. Um, so we're not relying on our me memories to do 244 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:24,080 stuff. >> Um, 245 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:29,520 I'm trying to think, would you think they'd be if we get 246 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:35,440 two or three people down here to city hall? Um, 247 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:39,039 and and we've done it both ways. We we've had 248 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,640 events during the middle of the week here at city hall since it's open. We've 249 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,480 had conference rooms that we can get in and talk. the last couple years we've 250 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:51,280 just had our walking tours and stuff outside. So, we'd have if if we want to 251 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:56,240 do something inside, probably have to do it in the middle of the week during that 252 00:21:53,919 --> 00:22:00,320 during preservation month. So, um we'd have to pick an evening and do that if I 253 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,280 have I think it'd be a great idea if we get two or three people down here talk 254 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,200 to us. >> Well, yeah. And so, that that's why I 255 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:13,280 said I've made a little headway on this. I've I my first of all, my father-in-law 256 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:18,240 grew up in Meridian and he's 84. He's not a real big talker, but I think 257 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:22,960 I might be able to convince him to come. And his family has a lot of history in 258 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:28,880 the the dairy and dairy part of Meridian's history. And 259 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:34,159 then um he knows folks, they still have high school reunions for Meridian High 260 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:38,080 School. I think it's like their 60th or 70th reunions or 261 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:44,480 » mine's my 50th is coming up, so I don't want to hear it. So, uh, so he put me in 262 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:50,880 contact with another, uh, lady who moved here when she was 14, uh, Neva Timonss, 263 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:55,280 and, um, she's really excited, actually, to share her thoughts about growing up 264 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:59,679 here in Meridian. So, there's probably three or four people that I could gather 265 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:05,039 myself, and I I bet someone else on the commission would know others as well. 266 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:11,440 Oh, I could gather two or three dozen people who who grew up here who are 267 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:14,159 pushing [clears throat] 70ish. Um, >> yeah, 268 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,131 » we're 70th, Patrick. >> Yeah. 269 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:21,360 » Well, I'm talking about people our age. [laughter] 270 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,679 » Um, at the um what's the branch of the library down here? 271 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:28,159 » Oh, Unbound. >> Unbound. Mhm. 272 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:33,280 » They have a room or two rooms, I think, where they can do podcasts, 273 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:38,000 » depending on how serious we wanted to be about this. We might be able to partner 274 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:42,720 with the library and we might be able to create um I don't remember what it's 275 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,480 called, but it's like living recordings of people, things that could last 276 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:51,919 forever. We wouldn't have to do it here at city hall. We could do it there. And 277 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:59,520 um if somebody really wanted to, you know, take this on as a project, 278 00:23:54,559 --> 00:24:02,480 » we could just do it as an ongoing thing. >> I think that's a great idea. We do 279 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,320 ongoing. >> I recently on Facebook had a 280 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:10,880 conversation with a member of the Davis family. They had Davis Foods down here 281 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:15,039 where the where the um youth ranch is >> youth ranch is now. And I just had a 282 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:20,799 great conversation with a member of the Davis family. That was my first real 283 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:25,440 paying job back when I was 16 years old. And uh there there's you would be 284 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:30,159 surprised how many people once in our walking tour I ran into a member of the 285 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:35,039 Calgone family and it was they had Calgone's floral here and so there's 286 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,080 lots of people around Meridian who could tell stories 287 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,880 » about Meridian back in the day. >> I think a live panel discussion would be 288 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,120 great. >> Oh yeah, something like that would be 289 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:47,120 awesome. >> Is is Unbound open? Can we get in on an 290 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,559 evening? >> Um, 291 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:52,400 » more than likely. >> I don't know, but I guess 292 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:58,480 » so. More than likely we could do an evening. Um, 293 00:24:55,279 --> 00:25:05,039 my biggest question is h I guess a question and also a suggestion 294 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:09,039 is um how do we continue to share these stories once we've preserved them, 295 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:15,760 right? Like the goal here is to preserve these living stories. Um, and so I 296 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:21,440 wonder if we could put the museum in here to use towards that. Um, what that 297 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,400 would look like could come in a variation of things. 298 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:32,480 » Right. Exactly. That's I I think uh in my mind it reminded me I think PBS does 299 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:37,279 that they have living stories and uh I wonder if maybe the Meridian Library 300 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:41,840 District if we could partner with them um because 301 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:48,400 the history center here is run by the Meridian Library District and Unbound 302 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:52,799 and they're um you know their their I don't know what they call it but you can 303 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:58,320 do podcasts upstairs there. they could do that and we might be able to partner 304 00:25:54,559 --> 00:26:03,679 with them where these living histories could be kept on their website and then 305 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:09,440 you know they would be there forever for people instead of so something like a 306 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:13,919 panel discussion is great but like you say how do you preserve that so that 307 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:18,720 it's not just a one-time event where where it's lost that would be totally 308 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,799 awesome to be able to preserve that. What if um if we had the panel 309 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,960 discussion, we can obviously record that when it happens so that we get to keep 310 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,000 that, right? >> Um what if during May we had an 311 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:33,520 interactive way for anyone to come in whether it's in the museum or the 312 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,200 library and just share their story, write their name and email 313 00:26:34,288 --> 00:26:39,200 [clears throat] down and then they can send in photos. Uh we can start posting 314 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,720 those to the social media account after so that we have like their voice over 315 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,640 and then a couple photos um that they shared in like a carousel. Uh that way 316 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:49,520 anyone can just come do it. Maybe grab a piece of candy on their way out for 317 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,919 bringing their kids in or something. So that way we get people that are 318 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,240 » 85 to five uh and we'll get a good array of places. 319 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,360 » Yep. That would be awesome. >> And it wouldn't have to be the craziest 320 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,520 audio. I mean, obviously it'd be preferred to have the nice um things 321 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,200 that they use at the library. But if we set it up here, um I'm not sure what 322 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:11,600 sort of tech we'd use, but anything works. 323 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:18,159 » That would be awesome. Um I I guess I guess my decision my my 324 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:23,440 thinking is um is this something we want to go forward with for preservation 325 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:29,520 month so we can get started on it now? Um gives us 326 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:32,960 three months to get everything planned before May 327 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,320 » to do so. >> Well, I like this voices and meridian 328 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:42,240 concept. I I think this is a great idea. It's something that 329 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,799 » something that some of the old-timers in Meridian, I think, could probably get 330 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:50,880 behind. >> So, so let's do this. If if you guys are 331 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:54,080 in favor, um Mr. Chair, 332 00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:57,760 » before you go forward, may I address Cassandra for a second? 333 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:04,240 » Yes, >> Sandra. um for a project like this and 334 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:08,399 the planning of a project like this and for 335 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:12,960 meeting to make sure a project like this happens. 336 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:18,399 What so that we're in compliance with sharing 337 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:22,159 what work we do with the public. If per say me and another person on the council 338 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:28,200 wanted to go through a proposal and like work out the next steps of this, how 339 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,200 would we have to go about that? 340 00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:35,039 Um, that's a good question because as you're talking through some of these 341 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:39,600 ideas, I am thinking about um what's going to be required of staff. Um, I 342 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,679 think there this sounds like a a fairly high technology sort of project and 343 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:50,720 dealing with um audio and video recording things which I'm um my skill 344 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:56,960 level is pretty mid [laughter] pretty mid level. Um, so and I we're not 345 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:02,159 really able to ask like it for much support. So I I am 346 00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:08,720 I'm a little bit hesitant um in terms of what the commission might expect of like 347 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:12,480 staff um to to do in this. So I c 348 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:17,120 » can we I guess first step can we go go to the library district and ask them if 349 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:20,880 they would like to partner with us for the project. So that that's where I was 350 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,760 headed with with my suggestion. If you guys want to reach out with the library 351 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,960 district, say this is our thought. This is what we'd like to do. 352 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:33,200 » Would you guys like to partner with us? If so, can we use Unbound or can we use 353 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:38,640 part of your staff or whatever for the audio visual portion of of this program? 354 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:42,480 And then like and then present. It's going to be ongoing. If we can do a 355 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:47,520 couple this year going on down the line, keep recording these for the history of 356 00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:52,320 Meridian. Yeah, Chair. Um, Chair Johnson, I do 357 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:56,880 think that's a really good idea. I And Cassandra, I I empathize with all the 358 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:02,159 work you're doing and thank you for all the work you do. I would say that if we 359 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:06,960 do this, it it should be um our work that we get that set up. I have also 360 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:10,720 resources at the College of Western Idaho. I know the um you know, the 361 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,200 professors that teach marketing and communications and they have equipment 362 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,600 that does this type of stuff. That might be something great that students would 363 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,279 like to do. >> Extra credit. 364 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:25,440 » Exactly. So, I think there are several ways we could just um we could 365 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:31,520 investigate that. I think the library is also really good obviously resource. 366 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:36,320 » Then I suppose let's do this. If you want to check with your sources at 367 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,320 college, Commissioner Giddings, if you want to check with library district. 368 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,039 Yeah, I'll just I'll just go over to Unbound and ask 369 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:49,279 » and ask them and then we can have report back by next month and then if we have 370 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:53,120 let's say if we have four people we want to have discussions with during May. 371 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,600 » I think we have four people here during May 372 00:30:54,159 --> 00:31:01,120 » we can ask qu I think it's going to be a good program for us yeah to do. 373 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:09,360 » You had a question. >> No, I saw Cassandra Graham going okay. 374 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,960 Um I think on on the city's end it's just partly because the ADA compliance 375 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,679 or just like city branding and sort of things and how we present something. Um 376 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:21,760 it does all have to be reviewed by staff to put out there. Um but it is it is 377 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,760 something that the commission if the commission is able to do it and figure 378 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,480 out a lot of the logistics and the tech um then yeah you could definitely move 379 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,200 forward and do this. >> Okay. Um, I guess one example I might 380 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:39,360 just put out there that sort of makes me a little um the the one example is the 381 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:44,480 like the walking tour on the phones is um really fantastic, but I haven't had 382 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:47,600 um a former commissioner set that up, but I haven't really been able to do 383 00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:51,760 much on the back end. So, that hasn't really changed or anything a lot. And 384 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:55,519 so, um that's that's kind of an example of like a technology sort of thing that 385 00:31:53,760 --> 00:32:00,480 is long-standing and continues to run. But I um haven't had a lot of I haven't 386 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:04,080 um been able to do a lot of edits or updates. So just thinking about like how 387 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,600 to make this a sustainable project that doesn't need um that's able to kind of 388 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,360 continue to function. >> How does this change if Meridian is the 389 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:17,600 Meridian library is the publisher of the project? So let's say we help collect 390 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:23,440 the videos, but what if they're the ones who publish said videos or said content? 391 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:27,679 » Yeah. Then I think it would just um then it would kind of be their staff and them 392 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,519 that would have to review it as it's being from them or it's you know if it's 393 00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:37,200 a joint project then it's kind of like both both entity staff kind of has to 394 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:40,320 » I think maybe step one is just do some homework and be able to report back next 395 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,720 month and >> because right now I don't know if we 396 00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:47,679 know what we don't know so we'll do some homework. 397 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,039 » Yeah, I'm definitely willing to to do that. 398 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:56,880 » Okay. Um, one other thing I would just like to mention, um, to help maybe with 399 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:02,559 what Cassander's workload is, um, we have a very robust, um, internship 400 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,240 program at College of Western Idaho and outside organizations, especially 401 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:11,440 nonprofits or state sponsored organizations can ask for, you know, our 402 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:17,360 students to come and learn like if they're a marketing major or in want to 403 00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:22,320 be in nonprofit um, and spend time every week helping support the things you do, 404 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,679 Cassandra. So, if you want to talk further about that offline, 405 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,279 » I have actually looked extensively at getting interns, but we we could talk 406 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,320 about that offline. It's it's >> more complicated 407 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:36,840 » and more challenging than facility. >> I'm glad to support that though. 408 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,840 » Okay. 409 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:46,080 Um, so you got your tasks, so we'll report back next month and hopefully 410 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:49,440 we'll have some information and we can move forward. Sorry, away from the 411 00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:55,120 microphone. move forward for preservation month. Um, 412 00:33:52,640 --> 00:34:01,440 I would still like to, if possible, Miss Schiffler, if the people from Idaho 413 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,840 Trails could give us a little presentation. 414 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:07,279 » Yes. >> If it's a backup for future or something 415 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:14,560 like that, but if we could get some information from them um 416 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:18,720 on what they could do at a future time. >> Um, yes. So, Mr. Mr. Chair and 417 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,919 commissioners, I um I sent that newsletter out that I have the printed 418 00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:26,720 copy of from the Oregon Trails Association. So, I talked to their 419 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:31,440 president um who gave um a presentation to the metal detector club that Ken is a 420 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:35,040 part of recently and said it was great. Um so, I asked him if he could do that 421 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,879 presentation for us. He's very willing. He's um he's a speaker that's been doing 422 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,720 this for the Idaho Humanities Council for a while. So, he has like an hourong 423 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:46,800 presentation. um an hourlong presentation is kind of long for giving 424 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:51,440 it to the commission but is also would be happy to do it um for the public. So 425 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,240 um I sort of put some tentative dates in there. He could come to the commission 426 00:34:52,639 --> 00:35:00,640 to do a shorter like 20 minute presentation on the March meeting and 427 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:04,960 then he's willing to do um one in May for preservation month. But we do want 428 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:08,320 to um he has a lot he he was hoping to like nail down dates if there are dates 429 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,359 happening sooner rather than later. So, I did put um tenatively March uh or May 430 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,880 16th during preservation month, which is when you do the walking tour. So, it 431 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:21,760 could be the hour before or the hour after the walking tour. Um he could do a 432 00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:24,720 presentation in the in the meeting rooms A and B before the walking tour if 433 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,760 that's of interest. >> Okay. 434 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:32,760 » But if it is, we should we should let him know sooner rather than later. 435 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,760 We can't do both, which is Well, we could do both, I suppose. 436 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,680 » Why can't we do both? >> We could do both. 437 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,240 » I think we could do I think we could do both. 438 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:50,280 » We could do both. Um because there's no reason why we can't do two programs in 439 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,280 May. Um 440 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:59,359 have ours one week and then have his another week or something like that. So, 441 00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:04,640 um, if he could do the presentation in March and then we'll figure out a date 442 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:09,680 in May that he can come down and do an hourlong presentation. So, I think I 443 00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:14,000 think what Commissioner Wilson wants to do and his 444 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:18,880 ideas and his they all tie together as the people that formed the community. 445 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,520 So, um, I think we can tie the two together and it all goes with the 446 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,520 America 250 thoughts. So, 447 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,359 We'll do that. 448 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,960 » Shall I tell him to keep May 16 on his calendar? 449 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:43,920 » Let's keep May 16th open for him and then we'll we'll plan a date that we can 450 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:46,920 have um our oral histories down here. Yeah. 451 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,359 » Um, >> speaking of the walking tours, I know 452 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:58,320 this isn't on the meeting, but we're talking about the walking tours and 453 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,560 May's preservation month. You'll notice all the commissioners, um, we did get 454 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,760 new binders printed from TAG. They did an update. They added a table of 455 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,200 contents. They added two sites that were not on the walking tour before. So, for 456 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,960 new commissioners, this is your your guide to giving the walking tours. I 457 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,800 think the whole walking tour is a little over two hours. So, um commissioners can 458 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:21,280 kind of pick and choose sections, but that's uh some some homework reading for 459 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:25,119 you as you think about leading your own walking tour later this year. 460 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:29,200 » So, yeah. So, that's the other thing for well, we'll talk about meeting topics. 461 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:35,440 So, yeah, we'll start planning our our walking tour dates um next month. 462 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:42,720 So, thank you for this, Miss Schiffer. Appreciate it. um SOP for coordination 463 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:46,560 of HPC and current planning update. Do you have anything else for us? 464 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:51,680 » I did have a nice update. Uh when I gave the presentation to you about that um 465 00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:57,359 new SOP, one of the major issues of it is that it was relying on old data. So 466 00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:01,839 actually um thank you Alexis, our Shipo CLG coordinator. Um, we got a meeting 467 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,079 between our GIS people and it does look like we're going to be able to um I 468 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,520 haven't heard an update, but I think we're going to be able to um get updated 469 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:15,480 data with um the Shipo's IIR system. So, that's great news. 470 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,480 » Okay, 471 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,760 perfect. 472 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,160 Any other topic there discussions on that, 473 00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:28,720 » Mr. Chair? >> Yes, sir. May I open the committee for 474 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:31,040 discussion about America 250 and any new ideas for how we want to plan around 475 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,800 that >> for our preservation month? 476 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,079 » Is is that all tied together? >> Yeah. 477 00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:43,359 » Okay. Perfect. Okay. So that >> so 478 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:48,320 with that we will go on to our special workshop 479 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:52,480 in conference room. >> All right. 480 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:57,599 For anyone online, this next portion of the meeting will be in person only. So, 481 00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:01,560 signing off from the online portion. Thank you. 482 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,560 » Thank you.