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to order. And before we move on uh to uh

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the approval of the agenda, I'd like to

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make an announcement that uh I've uh had

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a discussion with the CEO and I'm going

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to be calling a public meeting at some

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point when the development for Can Road

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Arlene to reach out to the um to the

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county and to the builder and of course

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our CIO and our planner will be present.

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community center two weeks prior to it

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arriving to council so that the public

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has the opportunity to ask questions and

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have some of their concerns answered uh

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prior to a discussion point. We have no

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timeline on it. But Miss Plumbley will

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keep uh us up to date uh to when we can

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expect that meeting to be held prior to

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So we're going to move on to number two,

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approval of the agenda. The agenda for

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the regular council meeting held on

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December 22nd, 2025 be approved as

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presented. May I have a mover, please?

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>> Thank you. Any comments or questions

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» Thank you. Any comments or questions

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carried. Thank you. Going to go on to

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disclosure of the community interest and

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general nature thereof. Does any member

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have a interest to declare? And if so,

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what is the general nature of that

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for residents to ask questions directed

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only during questions asked during the

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during the item on the agenda that it

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public have a question regarding any

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that the council of the corporation of

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the village of Marful Wolfer received

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for information the motion for

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consideration document as presented. May

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I have a mover please? Thank you and a

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seconder. I'll second.

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>> Thank you. Comments or questions please?

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» Thank you. Comments or questions please?

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those in favor carry. Thank you.

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Delegations Anne Martin and Gladet

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Martin block house museum board that the

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council of the corporation of the

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village of Merrickville Wolfer received

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for information the delegation from Anne

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Martin and Gladet Martin regarding the

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block house museum municipal service

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board plans for 2026. May I have a

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» Thank you. I'll now invite Ann and

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council. Ladies, the floor is yours.

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here tonight, I guess there were some

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questions about what the uh museum board

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the council meeting on December 1st. um

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when we thought we'd put together a

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short presentation for you. We'll run

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through a couple of things, Julia, just

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on the table of contents about uh what

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we're planning uh for 2026 and beyond.

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that summer of 2024 was our first summer

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of operation and the museum municipal

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services board operates the block house

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museum. The Marville and District

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artifacts and we have anou in place with

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uh MDHs to make that happen. And in our

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policies and procedures.

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and we really had our largest gate

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of years with how many days to stay open

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staffing. I guess that doesn't show on

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the slide very well, Julia. There you

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go. Thank you. Um, and I think where

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we've landed is with the grants that we

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receive being open 5 days a week, being

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closed Tuesday and Wednesday during the

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week is really what yields the best

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have put together a lot of thought. We

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have a team and we have a work plan for

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sort of really support what it is that

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as not just you know the jewel that is

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really time that we invite schools to

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school programs and to take a look at

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meaningful program while we're there

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while they're sort of here. So, those

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that will help us kind of beef up our

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budget. We're also taking a look at uh

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bringing in uh some rotating traveling

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exhibits uh and Ann's going to tell us a

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the next slide actually if you want to

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historic RTO canal that we have borrowed

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a new exhibition in the Black House

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floor. Um this is the catalog that's um

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the 200th anniversary of the Rudo Canal.

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this coming to fruition next summer.

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real refresh of the museum. If you can

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picture what it looks like, um we're

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texts, the panels, what you see there.

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those stories. The studies show that

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people come to museums for two reasons,

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for fun and for the perceived learning

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values. So enga in sort of being able to

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with an ex a traveling exhibit plan that

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better teach about the RTO Canal. We

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the shape of the building. It's so cool.

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able to meet them where they're at and

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really tell that story, but we'll also

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better tell the story of Meritville and

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its people, its development, while we

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also hold space for indigenous presence

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to visitors being able to come in and

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learn and also to reminisce and to share

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working photos on what we're looking at

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the the the guest uh the visitor um the

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taking what's already there and

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improving upon it. Because if we go to

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with very modest budgets because what

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what's already there and improve it and

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really raise the bar and raise the

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standard. And with this budget, that's

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what we're looking at doing. Uh with

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this budget, we really drilled down in

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terms of looking at some new revenue

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sources. How can we train staff better

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and with intention to be able to raise

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that donation amount that we achieve?

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» Next slide. Yeah,

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>> that's the gist of it. Now we open the

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» that's the gist of it. Now we open the

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floor to questions.

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>> Thank you very much. We appreciate uh

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» Thank you very much. We appreciate uh

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your little uh history lesson. Uh I love

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I love history. Um so do we have any

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questions from members? Go ahead. Again,

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>> I do have a question on slide four. we

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» I do have a question on slide four. we

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kind of skipped over the exploring

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partnerships and I wonder if you could

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describe a little bit more about the

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work you're doing with RT9 and the

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county.

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>> Absolutely. Um we're sort of looking at

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» Absolutely. Um we're sort of looking at

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we we know what we do. we know what it

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is that we're good at and with 7,000

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visitors roughly this year the questions

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that we were asking ourselves is how can

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we do better with marketing and we're a

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museum services board so we were really

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looking at well who's already doing the

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marketing and how can we sort of tap in

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and plug in with what they're doing uh

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so given that we met with RTO9 we met

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with county of leads in Grenville uh

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we're meeting with parks Canada to try

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and leverage what it is that we're

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doing, what they're already doing, uh,

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and really improving on that. So, we've

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had some of those discussions. Those

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discussions are ongoing. Uh, and really,

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we're just kind of continuing to work on

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that. When we come back to the table in

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February, we'll have some other

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marketing plans that we'll want to do

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sort of within Merrickville. Um, also

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working with those channels. And, do you

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have anything to add with that? It's

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good. Any other questions for members?

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Go ahead, counselor.

315
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>> Uh yeah, I just noticed here on the um

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» Uh yeah, I just noticed here on the um

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under the um museum total compensation

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uh it dropped by 15,000 this year. What

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what was the difference in terms of um

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staff makeup? What we learned this year,

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as an mentioned, is that our sweet spot

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is three staff 5 days a week. As you

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look through previous years, uh the

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museum has tried several sort of

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combinations in terms of what works

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best. Is it four full-time staff and

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seven days a week? Is it three full-time

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staff and five days a week? And just

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what we found is three full-time staff 5

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days a week is sort of our sweet spot.

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Also, with that, we have to sort of

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bounce that off with the grants that

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we're writing. So, uh, between us and

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with the village, we write four grants

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to try and offset those staff. So, we

336
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need a little bit of wiggle room in

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terms of what our expectation is in

338
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terms of the cost of those staff.

339
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Depends what we get in the grants. We'll

340
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either get, if it's a good year, we'll

341
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get four grants at 75% covered. Yay. Uh,

342
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but that's not what happened in 2025.

343
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2025 was a much more lean year where we

344
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had two grants at about 50% covered.

345
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Those grants have been written. So now

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we wait and see and they're always late

347
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in telling us.

348
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>> Thanks. Never happens on time.

349
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» Thanks. Never happens on time.

350
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>> Well, any other questions for members?

351
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» Well, any other questions for members?

352
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>> I have a question. Um, considering this

353
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» I have a question. Um, considering this

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is going to be a a marking point uh

355
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200-y year anniversary,

356
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have you considered

357
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reaching out to a

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provider that has an historic boat like

359
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we usually get those tall ships that

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come into Brockville, someone with a

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boat of medium size that would be uh

362
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easy to move maneuver through the uh

363
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lock system and offer an opportunity for

364
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visitors and perhaps create an

365
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opportunity to draw in more visitors to

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allow a living history experience to

367
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have a boat sailboat

368
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positioned and loaded up with tourists

369
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and bring them through the lock station

370
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down to the bottom and then have some

371
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come back up.

372
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>> Not take them on a long sail, but just

373
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» Not take them on a long sail, but just

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allow them the experience

375
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of going through the locks. number one,

376
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but number two, doing it in an historic

377
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sail ship. Is that something that you

378
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explored uh reaching out to see if there

379
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was any interest for someone that may

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want to provide that as an opportunity

381
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uh for the anniversary? Because I think

382
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living and experiencing the history, you

383
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we can see it, we can touch it, but to

384
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actually physically be in a boat and go

385
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through the system and then come back up

386
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through the system would be an

387
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experience probably uh

388
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that would draw in a huge amount of

389
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interest into the building. Just a

390
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thought.

391
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>> There are people who provide um

392
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» There are people who provide um

393
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opportunities like that. Um we we did we

394
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haven't to date been able to find

395
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anybody to to do that but it's c it's

396
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certainly something that we could look

397
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into in the new year.

398
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>> I think it it may be an opportunity for

399
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» I think it it may be an opportunity for

400
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us to really shine a large spotlight on

401
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Merrick Wolfford uh the village uh is

402
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there's going to be a lot of u events

403
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happening along the canal so it may it

404
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may put us uh in the number one

405
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position. just thought about it uh went

406
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through my head and thought how amazing

407
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would that be if there was an

408
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opportunity to partner with someone and

409
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and offer that

410
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>> that is a great idea and did we mention

411
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» that is a great idea and did we mention

412
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there are two openings on the board

413
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right now [laughter]

414
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>> I'm very busy but thank you very much no

415
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» I'm very busy but thank you very much no

416
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I just thought it might be that and uh

417
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you know when you can when you can offer

418
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especially the young uh the young

419
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children when you can offer them an

420
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opportunity like that to actually physic

421
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basically live and experience history

422
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rather than see it in a book or you know

423
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paste it on a wall in a museum somewhere

424
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but actually uh give them that

425
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experience. It's something they would

426
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carry with them uh throughout their life

427
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and uh I just think it might be

428
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something to explore.

429
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>> Definitely.

430
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» Definitely.

431
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Well, if there's no further questions or

432
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comments, ladies, I we appreciate your

433
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time and uh the energy you put in this

434
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and good luck and uh you know, um

435
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we hope that uh the 200 year anniversary

436
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role.

437
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>> We got to go past all all the markers,

438
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» We got to go past all all the markers,

439
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right?

440
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>> And we look forward to letting you in on

441
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» And we look forward to letting you in on

442
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some of the other things that we'll be

443
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planning for the year. There'll be some

444
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special invites coming in. So when when

445
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that happens, we would uh definitely be

446
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excited to receive that. And if there's

447
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an opportunity to bring back uh

448
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yourselves as another delegation for an

449
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update, uh please reach out to staff.

450
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We'd be uh more than happy to have you

451
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back.

452
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>> Thank you. Good. Thank you.

453
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:13,679
» Thank you. Good. Thank you.

454
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>> Enjoy your evening.

455
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» Enjoy your evening.

456
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>> So call the vote. All in favor? And

457
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» So call the vote. All in favor? And

458
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that's carried. Thank you. Consent

459
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agenda. All items listed under the

460
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consent agenda are considered routine

461
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and no longer require further discussion

462
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and are enacted in one motion. The

463
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exception to this rule is that any

464
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member may request that one or more item

465
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be pulled for discussion and voted on

466
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separately. Does any member wish to

467
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separate any of the items on the consent

468
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agenda and that council of the

469
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corporation of the village of Merville

470
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Wolf will receive

471
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and approve all items on the consent

472
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agenda as presented and recommended. May

473
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I have a mover, please? I'll move.

474
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>> Thank you. Seconder, please.

475
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» Thank you. Seconder, please.

476
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:55,830
>> I'll second.

477
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» I'll second.

478
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>> Thank you.

479
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» Thank you.

480
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>> Any comments or questions from members?

481
00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:59,600
» Any comments or questions from members?

482
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Go ahead, counselor.

483
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>> I'd like to pull out 726

484
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» I'd like to pull out 726

485
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uh the 2025 municipal financial

486
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indicator threshold profile.

487
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>> Okay.

488
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» Okay.

489
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Any any others?

490
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None. Okay. So, we're going to call the

491
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vote on the consent agenda minus 7.2.

492
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2.6 is that correct counselor

493
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>> 7.2.6

494
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» 7.2.6

495
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>> minus that. Okay.

496
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» minus that. Okay.

497
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>> All those in favor

498
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» All those in favor

499
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>> carry. Thank you.

500
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» carry. Thank you.

501
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,919
So we will now uh cons I don't have it

502
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in front of me. Uh clerk could you read

503
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7 uh.2.6 please. Thank you.

504
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,350
>> Yes. So it would just be that the

505
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» Yes. So it would just be that the

506
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council of the corporation the village

507
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of Mer Wolfford received for information

508
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item 7.2.6 six being the 2025 municipal

509
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financial indicator threshold and

510
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profile.

511
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>> So, may I have a mover, please?

512
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» So, may I have a mover, please?

513
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,470
>> Thank you. Seconder, please.

514
00:19:00,470 --> 00:19:00,480
» Thank you. Seconder, please.

515
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,190
>> I'll second.

516
00:19:01,190 --> 00:19:01,200
» I'll second.

517
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,029
>> Thank you. Moved and seconded. The floor

518
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» Thank you. Moved and seconded. The floor

519
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is open for questions. Go ahead,

520
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:06,320
counselor. You moved.

521
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,510
>> Thank you. Um, lots of interesting

522
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» Thank you. Um, lots of interesting

523
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,799
information here. One thing that did

524
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sort of stand out to me

525
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was on page the first page of the

526
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financial indicator review near the

527
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bottom it says annual surplus slash

528
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deficit as a percent of own source

529
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revenues.

530
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So, I'm looking at the numbers and we're

531
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we appear to be substantially above our

532
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neighbors

533
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that make up the uh comparison group.

534
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,520
So, I just want to get clarification.

535
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So, for 2024,

536
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our number looks like 23%.

537
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So, am I reading that right? That we had

538
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a surplus of 23%. [clears throat]

539
00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,000
Um, so we're in other words 23% below

540
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budget. Is that how I read that? Like

541
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where where does that come from? No, I

542
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,520
think what it does is it compares the

543
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,950
overall

544
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,440
like sized like circumstance

545
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,720
municipalities and we're in the range of

546
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,360
we're in the low range which is good of

547
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,120
the how much we need to offset the if

548
00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,600
I'm looking at the right one here.

549
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,270
>> Yeah. Generally I think the auditor says

550
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:31,280
» Yeah. Generally I think the auditor says

551
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,440
we're within 5% of our budget.

552
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:33,990
>> Yeah.

553
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:34,000
» Yeah.

554
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,029
>> You know the Yeah.

555
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:35,039
» You know the Yeah.

556
00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:36,870
>> Yeah. That's what I expected like 23

557
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:36,880
» Yeah. That's what I expected like 23

558
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,440
stood out to me. How how is it 23%. It

559
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,120
doesn't make any sense. So,

560
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:42,310
>> we'll have to look into that and get

561
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:42,320
» we'll have to look into that and get

562
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,919
back to you. But our our surpluses

563
00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:45,520
generally will be within 5% of the

564
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,799
budget, which is generally where you

565
00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:47,919
want to see them.

566
00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:48,230
>> Yeah.

567
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:48,240
» Yeah.

568
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,190
>> Right.

569
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:49,200
» Right.

570
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,950
>> Okay. If you could get back to me, I

571
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:50,960
» Okay. If you could get back to me, I

572
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,080
appreciate it.

573
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,190
>> And if I could add this um these are

574
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:55,200
» And if I could add this um these are

575
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,520
based on the FIR data and that's one

576
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,919
snapshot in time at year end. So it

577
00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:04,559
could very well be that at year end

578
00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:08,240
there was a lot of outstanding um area

579
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,400
that hasn't been accounted for. So it's

580
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,960
just one snapshot in time at the FIR at

581
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,679
year end. So we can get it we can look

582
00:21:15,679 --> 00:21:16,720
into that.

583
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,390
>> Great. Thanks.

584
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:18,400
» Great. Thanks.

585
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,990
>> That's all I have. Any other questions

586
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:20,000
» That's all I have. Any other questions

587
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080
or comments? So you're comfortable

588
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,600
moving forward with it or

589
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,630
>> Yeah. So staff will reach out to and

590
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:26,640
» Yeah. So staff will reach out to and

591
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,159
supply the answer to all members.

592
00:21:28,159 --> 00:21:28,789
>> Yeah.

593
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:28,799
» Yeah.

594
00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,350
>> Thank you. So no further questions. I'll

595
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:31,360
» Thank you. So no further questions. I'll

596
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,120
call the vote. All in favor? It's

597
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,120
carried. Thank you. We go on to planning

598
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:38,799
matters. Bylaw bylaw 56205

599
00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:40,960
open air uh burn bylaw the council

600
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,240
corporation of village of Marville

601
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,600
Wolfford. Give first, second, third

602
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,200
final reading to bylaw 56205 being an

603
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,679
open air bylaw for the village of

604
00:21:49,679 --> 00:21:51,520
Marville Wolfford and further that

605
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,039
authorization be given to the mayor

606
00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:54,640
clerk the signed seal and place in the

607
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,000
bylaw book for the Minnesota Valley

608
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,360
bylaw number 56205. May I have a mover,

609
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,360
please?

610
00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,669
>> Thank you. Seconder, please. I'll second

611
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:03,679
» Thank you. Seconder, please. I'll second

612
00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:06,080
them. Thank you. Comments or questions

613
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,950
from members, please.

614
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,280
» Could we have the uh the chief summarize

615
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,280
the changes from the last time we

616
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,120
discussed the Miss Blumbley?

617
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,950
>> Sure. If you'd like to speak to that, go

618
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:18,960
» Sure. If you'd like to speak to that, go

619
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,679
ahead. Yeah. Through your worship. Uh so

620
00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:24,799
uh the ask was uh that I review the work

621
00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:29,280
on section 10 and provide um

622
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,640
the change in the inspection and

623
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,320
timelines. That's been changed in

624
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,120
section 10. Uh it now uh states

625
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:40,000
um that it'll be inspected and then the

626
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,480
permit will be issued. Um so that change

627
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,039
has been made. Uh the other asked was

628
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:46,400
review and edit the wording under

629
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,360
section 103 to make it less rigid. Uh we

630
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:52,080
did do that as well. Um previously it

631
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,280
had asked for the compression as a um as

632
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,559
well as the um air purification stuff.

633
00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:01,679
We have changed that to just a uh

634
00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:04,080
ignition engine uh that is in good

635
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,799
repair as not to cause large amounts of

636
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,679
emission. We change that wording. Uh the

637
00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:11,520
other request was uh include a

638
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,400
definition on a bonfire um provisions

639
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,280
for that. So, um, instead of doing a

640
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,600
bonfire, I did a large, uh, fire or a

641
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600
large campfire. Uh, so that kind of

642
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,880
defines it, um, a fire that's bigger.

643
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,400
Our general one is 24 in x 24 in. Uh,

644
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,159
this one's 48 in x 48 in. Uh, with what

645
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:36,480
I feel is acceptable parameters around

646
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,280
it for safety of neighbors.

647
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,039
Uh and believe that was uh all I had

648
00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,840
that uh you were asked to change. Uh and

649
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,520
all those corrections have been or sorry

650
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,240
all those changes been made um with the

651
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,240
new version in front of you

652
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,029
>> and the big one was the uh the exemption

653
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:55,039
» and the big one was the uh the exemption

654
00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:56,799
for farming.

655
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:57,909
>> Yeah.

656
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:57,919
» Yeah.

657
00:23:57,919 --> 00:23:58,549
>> Did you mention

658
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:58,559
» Did you mention

659
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,070
>> Oh yeah, sorry. That was Yeah, that was

660
00:24:00,070 --> 00:24:00,080
» Oh yeah, sorry. That was Yeah, that was

661
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,679
done in the previous one.

662
00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:03,110
>> Yeah, that one has changed the

663
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:03,120
» Yeah, that one has changed the

664
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:06,080
agricultural one. Yeah, we took out uh

665
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,440
Sorry, I should have highlighted it. My

666
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,070
apologies.

667
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,159
Uh so the agricultural one yeah so it

668
00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:16,240
was I took out the the three days is

669
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,000
completely gone that section has been

670
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,520
removed um and instead it just uh states

671
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,120
that every person who sets a fire under

672
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,720
the provisions of this subsection shall

673
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,760
file an application with the

674
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400
municipality as per section six. It

675
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,159
indicates who will keep watch until the

676
00:24:30,159 --> 00:24:31,840
fire is completely extinguished and

677
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,080
shall provide sufficient personnel,

678
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,679
appliances, and equipment to prevent the

679
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:37,520
fire from becoming a nuisance or

680
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480
dangerous to life and property.

681
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,720
So that section of 3D stuff has been

682
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,919
completely removed. Um, and also uh

683
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:50,400
attached to that uh you would see we've

684
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,840
separated it out. So there's a

685
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,840
residential burn permit and agricultural

686
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,080
burn permit. and they both echo the same

687
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,320
thing on both sides just for clarity.

688
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,880
Um, but it just gives us an idea of what

689
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,600
uh we might be responding to or who's

690
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,159
burning. But those visions been taken

691
00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:07,600
up.

692
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,510
>> Any other questions for members?

693
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:11,520
» Any other questions for members?

694
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,510
>> I think the inclusion of the maps is a

695
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:13,520
» I think the inclusion of the maps is a

696
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,679
good idea too because that defines the

697
00:25:15,679 --> 00:25:18,240
areas that are are restricted. So, and

698
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,640
it it meets the purpose of why we don't

699
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,799
want it there. So did you I didn't I

700
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,039
misheard did you say maps? Yeah. Okay.

701
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:26,549
>> The maps and the handler areas.

702
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:26,559
» The maps and the handler areas.

703
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,149
>> Yes.

704
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:28,159
» Yes.

705
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:29,200
Go ahead councelor.

706
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,630
>> Yeah. So that's great. Thanks for making

707
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:30,640
» Yeah. So that's great. Thanks for making

708
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,799
those changes. That's much better. Um

709
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,360
very minor comments left. Uh just with

710
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,320
respect to the uh the agricultural act

711
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,880
that you had referred to. Would it be

712
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,640
worthwhile to include that in the

713
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,039
whereas up right up front that with the

714
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:49,360
exemption for agricultural activities

715
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:51,510
>> and state the the section that you

716
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:51,520
» and state the the section that you

717
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,640
quoted to us in the email that day?

718
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,630
>> Uh through your worship we we we could

719
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:58,640
» Uh through your worship we we we could

720
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,720
but I think with taking that entire

721
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,400
section out to require them for

722
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,919
inspection or anything of that it kind

723
00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:06,799
of becomes a mute point at at this time.

724
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,640
I think we're not really requesting

725
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,039
anything other than that they give um

726
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:12,799
kind of the distances for safe burning

727
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:14,240
is the only thing we're we're asking

728
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,159
now. And that was uh that's the exact

729
00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:18,480
same parameters as uh what was in the

730
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,080
previous bylaw if I haven't changed

731
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,039
anything there at all.

732
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,440
And one other

733
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,679
little one 1235

734
00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:30,400
um the flame height for the uh large

735
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,279
campfire for rural areas in other words

736
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,559
the bonfire. Um

737
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,640
2 meters seems a little restrictive

738
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440
considering you can pile the wood like

739
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,000
four feet high. So that once that gets

740
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,559
rolling the flame is going to be I I I'd

741
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:50,880
suggest 3 mters instead of two

742
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,640
or three or so it was it was kind of a

743
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,600
I I can pass guess. Um we we do know the

744
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,679
flames are going to go higher than that.

745
00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:03,840
Um, but we also wanted to be kind of um

746
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,640
aware of the more you pile on that fire,

747
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240
the more radiant heat is going to come

748
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,320
off of that, which then would probably

749
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,480
require a bit more parameter around the

750
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,240
fire. Um, it's hard to explain. I guess

751
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960
it's more of an experience uh from being

752
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,640
up close to these fires, the radiant

753
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,400
heat that comes off that, the damage it

754
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,279
can cause uh to surrounding stuff. Um,

755
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:26,880
so that was that was the thought process

756
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,799
behind that. Um but again uh it's up to

757
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,120
council if they do want to make a change

758
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,039
but this this is my recommendation for

759
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:40,149
for height size.

760
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,880
Does council have an appetite to make a

761
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,960
change on that or are you satisfied with

762
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,200
the way the 2 meters versus the 3

763
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,710
meters? Go ahead.

764
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,600
» I have no experience in fighting fires.

765
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,559
I have very little knowledge about

766
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,919
managing fires and I am most comfortable

767
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:01,919
relying on the recommendations from the

768
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:05,840
chief. Um I think he's been

769
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,440
accommodating to allow us another size

770
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,559
of fire and I wouldn't want to push what

771
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:17,120
he recommends beyond what he recommends.

772
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,590
>> Councelor, did you echo uh deputy mayor

773
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:19,600
» Councelor, did you echo uh deputy mayor

774
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,720
bars sentence? Uh, councelor Maitlin,

775
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,909
>> I have no problem with the 2meter. Okay.

776
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:25,919
» I have no problem with the 2meter. Okay.

777
00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:28,240
So, you're okay with sticking with the 2

778
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,559
meter?

779
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,389
>> Uh, not really, but uh, it's not going

780
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:30,399
» Uh, not really, but uh, it's not going

781
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,399
to be the wish of council to do that.

782
00:28:32,399 --> 00:28:33,840
So, we'll go forward.

783
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,789
>> So, I think we've we've um, any other

784
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:36,799
» So, I think we've we've um, any other

785
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,919
questions or comments?

786
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:43,120
Uh, Chief, could you just

787
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,240
uh rattle my brain here? For backyard

788
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,559
campfires, they have to be called in,

789
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,880
correct? Correct. And is there a fee?

790
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,590
>> No, not at this time.

791
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:51,600
» No, not at this time.

792
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,230
>> There's no fee for your backyard fire.

793
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:54,240
» There's no fee for your backyard fire.

794
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,789
>> No. Okay.

795
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:54,799
» No. Okay.

796
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,389
>> There's no fee for any fire at this

797
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:56,399
» There's no fee for any fire at this

798
00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:57,120
time.

799
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,870
>> Okay. So, just wanted to publicly have

800
00:29:00,870 --> 00:29:00,880
» Okay. So, just wanted to publicly have

801
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,159
that stated because uh of course uh the

802
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:06,799
avenue of social media is never wrong,

803
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,760
but there's indications about

804
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480
the the sky falling, the walls are

805
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,760
falling in, and we're have to pay for

806
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,640
everything. I think the point that we're

807
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880
trying to get across here is that uh the

808
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,600
fire department is aware in case there's

809
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,399
a need to respond. So there's no fees

810
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:26,960
attached to any of that. Appreciate it.

811
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,799
That's all I wanted to know. Just wanted

812
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,279
it publicly said. So, if there's anybody

813
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,919
listening out there uh in the world uh

814
00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:36,080
that you know uh your backyard fire is

815
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,480
still uh your backyard fire, you don't

816
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,159
have to pay to have one, but you need to

817
00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:42,640
call it in uh in case uh there's a

818
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,799
response needed. The fire department

819
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:47,279
understands what's required to respond

820
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,679
to that particular call. Thank you,

821
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:51,840
Chief.

822
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,679
So, if there's no further comments or

823
00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:56,240
questions, I will call the vote. All

824
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,799
those in favor and that is carried

825
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:03,120
opposed. Sorry. Opposed. Thank you. So

826
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,640
carried. Staff reports. Public uh public

827
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,559
works department

828
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:12,159
fire department bylaw enforcement uh

829
00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:13,600
department activity update that the

830
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,559
council of the corporation of the

831
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,080
village of Merville will receive for

832
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,320
information the departmental activity

833
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,240
update as presented. May I have a mover

834
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,000
please?

835
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,880
And move.

836
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,909
>> Thank you. Seconder, please. No second.

837
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:25,919
» Thank you. Seconder, please. No second.

838
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:27,909
>> Thank you. comments or questions from

839
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:27,919
» Thank you. comments or questions from

840
00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:32,149
members, please.

841
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:34,080
Anything further uh staff would like to

842
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
add? Uh Miss Bumbling,

843
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,230
>> if that would be up to

844
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:38,240
» if that would be up to

845
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,590
>> fire sheet pool if he wants to add

846
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:39,600
» fire sheet pool if he wants to add

847
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,559
anything.

848
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:41,909
>> Maybe just really put your words up if

849
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:41,919
» Maybe just really put your words up if

850
00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:42,559
you don't mind.

851
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,310
>> Certainly. Just that uh just to make

852
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:44,320
» Certainly. Just that uh just to make

853
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,080
council aware of the fire protection

854
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,720
grant that we were successful in for

855
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,520
year two. Um when we're going to be

856
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,880
receiving uh just shy of $20,000 to go

857
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,080
towards uh new uh coveralls and PPE for

858
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240
the firefighters.

859
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,310
>> Yes. Uh

860
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:02,320
» Yes. Uh

861
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,919
it was fantastic to hear that

862
00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:06,799
announcement and uh much appreciated.

863
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,039
Uh yeah, I think the exact amount is

864
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:10,880
19,626.

865
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080
So um some good dollars for us. We do

866
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,279
appreciate it. So if there's no further

867
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:16,799
comments or questions, I'll call vote.

868
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:20,000
All in favor? Carried. Thank you.

869
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Uh 10 22 pumper truck pumper tank tanker

870
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,399
truck condition update and

871
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:27,520
recommendations of the council

872
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,000
corporation of the village of Mer Wolver

873
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,240
receive for information report on the

874
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,039
deterior condition of one of the fire

875
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,440
department's frontline pumper tanker

876
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,399
effects and that the council review and

877
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:43,120
approve the recommendation option one as

878
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,919
outlined in the report and direct staff

879
00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:48,159
to work with the desired company to

880
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:51,360
purchase a new pumper tanker with

881
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,919
simultane well well simultaneously

882
00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:55,279
moving into a lease agreement with

883
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,200
Elizabeth Town Kitley to lease a pumper

884
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,200
tanker until delivery of the proposed

885
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,120
new truck at the end of February. May I

886
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,279
have a mover, please?

887
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:03,830
>> I'll move.

888
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:03,840
» I'll move.

889
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,830
>> Thank you. Seconder, please.

890
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:05,840
» Thank you. Seconder, please.

891
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,789
>> Second.

892
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:06,799
» Second.

893
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,669
>> Okay. Any comments or questions from

894
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:09,679
» Okay. Any comments or questions from

895
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:15,669
members?

896
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:17,519
or would staff like to would you like to

897
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:18,799
wait for staff to give you some

898
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:23,830
>> I would prefer hearing more from staff

899
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:23,840
» I would prefer hearing more from staff

900
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,470
>> uh through your worship. So uh um so

901
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:26,480
» uh through your worship. So uh um so

902
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,960
this truck was uh was a recommendation

903
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,279
of staff and 24 to put um a larger sum

904
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,240
away um with the potential to tender

905
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,799
that year uh for the truck but uh

906
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,799
unfortunately it didn't move forward on

907
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,840
the uh budget. Uh it was again a request

908
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,600
of staff in 25 uh to put another sum of

909
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480
money away um with the option to tender

910
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240
again uh for the replacement of this

911
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720
truck. Um then again it didn't make the

912
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440
budget unfortunately but we've come to a

913
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
predicament now where um this truck has

914
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,760
come to end of life. Uh our mechanic has

915
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,840
uh tried to do the annual inspection.

916
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,519
Sorry, he did the annual inspection but

917
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:11,120
it is not going to pass. Um it uh in the

918
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,799
pictures I provided to council. I didn't

919
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,799
print them off to save paper, but the

920
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,880
pictures that were provided to council

921
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,880
uh shows extreme frame separation. Um

922
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600
the cab mounts are rusted out. Uh the

923
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760
floor is rusted out. Unfortunately,

924
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,519
being a 27y old truck and hauling water,

925
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,799
um it's kind of life is always being

926
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,799
wet. Um so, uh we've tried to be

927
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,799
diligent. This truck was identified as

928
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,799
well in our asset management plan and

929
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:42,720
our financial plan for this year as

930
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:48,159
replacement um for a much larger sum uh

931
00:33:48,159 --> 00:33:49,919
95,000.

932
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,399
Um staff have been able to work with a

933
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:54,240
few different companies to we've kind of

934
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,480
gone back and forth. We've been able to

935
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
uh have the option of securing a truck

936
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440
that's uh 645,000.

937
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,399
Uh we've gone from uh what you generally

938
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:07,120
see in our fire fire station being a

939
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,480
custom cab truck that would seat um six

940
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,159
people um to be more uh you know frugal

941
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,480
with the money. We've looked at a a

942
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,639
conventional cab that will only move two

943
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,839
bodies, but that's fine. Um which brings

944
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:25,119
the price tag down considerably. Um then

945
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:27,520
we uh we there is a truck that will be

946
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,720
available um mid to end of February. Um

947
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,480
provide a recommendation from our

948
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,119
insurance company in here as well. Um

949
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,839
we've also reached out uh to neighboring

950
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:43,839
departments um to see if if this isn't

951
00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,839
the will of council that we we move into

952
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:48,320
automatic aid agreements. Um just so

953
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,359
council is aware. Uh, I've only received

954
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:53,280
word back from two [sighs]

955
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,359
out of four departments that would

956
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,200
potentially have to provide that service

957
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,240
for us. Um, the other two have not

958
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,200
replied back yet. Uh, so the other

959
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,240
option for kind of backup protection uh

960
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,240
was this tank that lives Town Kitley

961
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,040
has. Uh, it is a used truck as well and

962
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,599
will be going out of service uh, midway

963
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,560
through 2026. Uh but they do it still

964
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480
has its annual safety till the middle of

965
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,280
of 26 and they have agreed to lease it

966
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,960
to us

967
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
in a time period of this council's will

968
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,200
to get a new vehicle. They will lease us

969
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,800
that truck for a couple months until the

970
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,240
new one could come in. Um the tanker

971
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,079
shuttle accreditation

972
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,560
they have agreed to extend it. If we

973
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,240
hold the list of Tam Kitley's truck for

974
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,400
the couple months, uh if we do not move

975
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,240
forward with a new truck and we have to

976
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,160
secure automatic aid agreements, we will

977
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,800
lose our tanker accredititation. Um as

978
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,280
well as meeting our response times,

979
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,440
unfortunately.

980
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Um I do apologize it kind of comes to

981
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,079
council as a a single source again. Um

982
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:59,760
it's not ideal for us either,

983
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,599
unfortunately. We would much prefer to

984
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:05,200
to tender. Um, but unfortunately that's

985
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,880
the case we're in at this point that we

986
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,599
would have to look for a a single source

987
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,359
and approval from council to do that to

988
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:14,870
replace this drug.

989
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560
» Mayor question.

990
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,589
>> I I think it's clear that staff have

991
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:19,599
» I I think it's clear that staff have

992
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,800
tried for two years, this is the third

993
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,920
year to bring this matter to a a

994
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,599
solution, a resolution that would have

995
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,440
allowed them to to issue tenders.

996
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,119
Um, it does seem that it is time for

997
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,320
this truck to be replaced.

998
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,480
I applaud their efforts to reduce the

999
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,000
cost from down from 900,000.

1000
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,560
Um, and I look forward to hearing what

1001
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,040
other members of council have to say.

1002
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,270
>> Go ahead, council. Uh yeah, I'm not sure

1003
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:55,280
» Go ahead, council. Uh yeah, I'm not sure

1004
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
what the lifespan general lifespan of a

1005
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
large uh pumper truck is, but 27 years

1006
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,560
seems like you've uh it's put in it's

1007
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,119
put in its time. Um it's it's the cost

1008
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,440
of doing business in in an emergency for

1009
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,640
emergency vehicles. Um you have, as you

1010
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,920
said, you brought the cost down from

1011
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,240
what you proposed from previous years.

1012
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,359
Um and then I do um and every every

1013
00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:19,119
other reason you gave it in terms of

1014
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,359
losing accreditation all those ideas

1015
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:25,200
getting a new truck um is actually for

1016
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,599
benefit for the uh municipality. I don't

1017
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,200
think residents want to see us losing

1018
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,280
our pumper truck and then having to

1019
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,200
depend on the neighboring u

1020
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,839
municipalities to respond when we when

1021
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,280
at this point in time we do have

1022
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,000
response within the municipality. Um, so

1023
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,599
I I I I applaud staff for presenting the

1024
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,680
report the way they did and for coming

1025
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,000
back with a less costly option in the

1026
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
works. On top of that,

1027
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,349
>> yeah, I'm in favor of option one. I

1028
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:53,359
» yeah, I'm in favor of option one. I

1029
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:54,720
think keeping the gradation is very

1030
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,920
important. Uh, yeah, I'm glad it's

1031
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,359
645,000 900,000. So, makes it a little

1032
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:06,390
easier when you say it that way.

1033
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,480
» Yeah. So spending better part of a

1034
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560
million dollars on a truck, I would want

1035
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,160
to see more information about the fleet

1036
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,800
in general and where we stand with

1037
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,320
respect to what the requirements are

1038
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,440
from the fire um marshall's office.

1039
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,400
Um

1040
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,240
there's some confusion here that I it

1041
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,599
don't isn't it a tanker truck that's it

1042
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,150
>> that we're talking replacing with a

1043
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:38,160
» that we're talking replacing with a

1044
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,320
pumper tanker which is a much more

1045
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,760
expensive type of vehicle right here you

1046
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,839
worship. So um yes and no. So what we

1047
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:50,960
currently have is it is a pumper tanker

1048
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,520
um but it's a tanker with a pump on it.

1049
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920
The one we have, it's a 500 gpm pump on

1050
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640
it. Uh, which we have always struggled

1051
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,839
with to provide pressures at a fire for

1052
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,400
offloading or mutual aid or automatic

1053
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,520
aid stuff due to just we can't get the

1054
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,720
volume out of that. Um, the replacement

1055
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,880
is a pumper tanker, which is what most

1056
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,960
departments go with now, and it is only

1057
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,880
a,00 gpm pump as opposed to our pumper

1058
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,040
truck, which is a,450

1059
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,577
gpm pump. uh to meet that standard. So,

1060
00:39:24,577 --> 00:39:25,359
[sighs and gasps]

1061
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:27,520
it's it's kind of a light truck. It is

1062
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,760
it is a touch different. I will 100%

1063
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,599
admit that. Um and I'm not trying to

1064
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,280
pull the wool over council's eyes. It's

1065
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,720
just that's the new tankers out now.

1066
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,320
They they have a pump on them. It's

1067
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,359
pretty rare to just get to find just a

1068
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:44,160
straight tanker. And I did look um and

1069
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
and there is no just plain tankers. They

1070
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,079
all have a pump on them because they

1071
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,720
need some way to offload under pressure.

1072
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,400
Um they just

1073
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,640
Only in certain situations do we rear

1074
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,200
dump into the truck. The way our system

1075
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,560
is set up in all of our neighboring

1076
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,280
municipalities, uh we have phases of

1077
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,760
water supply, one, two, and three. Phase

1078
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,880
one and two are pressurized um water

1079
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,359
supply to a pumper truck from that

1080
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:11,599
truck. And then phase three is the only

1081
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:13,040
one where we would actually dump in

1082
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,119
quarter tanks. Um, but we need that

1083
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,480
pressure to to meet um the requirement

1084
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640
to get water off that truck uh as

1085
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,480
quickly as we can to the to the pumper

1086
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,839
truck to attack the fire faster.

1087
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:27,839
Um, did I answer your question? I

1088
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:28,400
apologize.

1089
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,270
>> Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Um, didn't we buy a

1090
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:31,280
» Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Um, didn't we buy a

1091
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
pumper tanker in 2022 and then

1092
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,200
previously in 2017ish?

1093
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,710
>> Uh, no. Through your worship. So in 2016

1094
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:40,720
» Uh, no. Through your worship. So in 2016

1095
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,440
uh the previous chief uh did get a of

1096
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,160
the tanker uh which carries 2500 gallons

1097
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,560
of water. Uh 22 we got a pumper. Um now

1098
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,560
they do carry 1,000 gallons of water on

1099
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,440
it which was a larger capacity uh that

1100
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,240
we got. Um and then the truck we would

1101
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,480
be looking to replace is a tanker with

1102
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,240
3,000 gallons of water on it. And that's

1103
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,240
what we would be looking to replace it

1104
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,319
with is another truck that carries 3,000

1105
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:10,240
gallons. So, we in order for us to do a

1106
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,760
an initial attack on a rural fire, um we

1107
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,960
require that roughly 7,000 gallons up

1108
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,880
front to to slow that fire down. And

1109
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,800
then even after that, we generally call

1110
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,240
in mutual aid uh for another tanker uh

1111
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,920
from a neighboring department to come in

1112
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,119
and get into the the rotation, sometimes

1113
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:32,880
two more trucks uh depending on the

1114
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960
scale of the fire. And then we offer

1115
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,720
that same service to the neighboring

1116
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,240
departments through the mutual aid

1117
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,200
program.

1118
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,870
>> Um, another followup, please. Go ahead.

1119
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:44,880
» Um, another followup, please. Go ahead.

1120
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Wouldn't wouldn't the two trucks we have

1121
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,800
purchased in 2022 and 2016 meet our

1122
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,630
requirements for

1123
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,720
response? Um,

1124
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,839
so there isn't any real sorry through

1125
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:05,359
your there isn't any real set amount of

1126
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:07,920
water you have to have to bring to a

1127
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,839
fire. Um, but from experience and doing

1128
00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:15,280
this for almost 20 years now. Um, I mean

1129
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,040
the NFPA1 1901 does speak to apparatus

1130
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,280
and water supply and that sort of stuff.

1131
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,359
It doesn't say you shall have a certain

1132
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:25,440
amount of water, but uh you shall have

1133
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,280
an adequate amount of water to fight the

1134
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,119
fire. To do a rural fire um even at two

1135
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,040
tanker trucks with the pumper truck at

1136
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,359
7,000 gallons is generally not enough

1137
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:38,480
water um to fight the fire and we have

1138
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,200
to bring in um neighboring departments

1139
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,920
from mutual aid.

1140
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,520
Just to explain a little bit further, if

1141
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,760
we were to take one tanker out of

1142
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,440
service and only have one tanker in the

1143
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,599
municipality, we can no longer provide

1144
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,599
mutual aid to a neighboring department

1145
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:55,680
because we can't release that tanker out

1146
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,440
of our jurisdiction in case we have a

1147
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,560
fire. Once we do that, we can't provide

1148
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,800
mutual aid. So, we can't request mutual

1149
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,920
aid under the mutual aid agreement.

1150
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,560
So, we have a double-edged sword there.

1151
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,560
we lose water as well as we can't ask

1152
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200
for water technically to come in. Would

1153
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,280
a neighboring department refuse us? I

1154
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,720
don't know, but they could. Um I would

1155
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,040
hope they wouldn't. But under the mutual

1156
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,119
aid plan for Ontario in the agreement,

1157
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:24,800
it does state you have to be able to

1158
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,800
provide it to ask for it. You have to

1159
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,800
exhaust all of your capabilities first

1160
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480
before you can request mutual aid from

1161
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,240
the neighboring department.

1162
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,150
>> Could I just ask a clarification please?

1163
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:34,160
» Could I just ask a clarification please?

1164
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,720
Yes. um 2017 and the 2022. You said they

1165
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,960
had the capability of carrying a water,

1166
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,400
but then you said if we were to remove

1167
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,040
one, we'd be down to one, but those two

1168
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,640
are not the two that we're considering

1169
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,160
to remove. It's another one that we're

1170
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,599
considering removing.

1171
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:51,109
>> So, would that not still leave us with

1172
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:51,119
» So, would that not still leave us with

1173
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:52,240
two tankers?

1174
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,109
>> Uh, no. Your worship. So, the pumper is

1175
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:55,119
» Uh, no. Your worship. So, the pumper is

1176
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:57,920
strictly a pumper with water on it. Um,

1177
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,599
it can only pump water out. It can't

1178
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:00,960
dump water or anything like that. It can

1179
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,680
only pump out what it has on the truck.

1180
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,079
uh where the tankers can do both. They

1181
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:07,680
can pump it out or they can just dump

1182
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
the water into a tank and then carry on.

1183
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,960
Um they are considerably cheaper. Uh in

1184
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,160
cost for this 645, if we were to look at

1185
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,000
replacing that pumper truck right now,

1186
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,480
we would be um and I speak from a

1187
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,160
neighboring department that has done it

1188
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,640
uh just right at the million dollar

1189
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,599
mark. um to replace the pumper with

1190
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:29,760
1,000 gallons on it versus the pumper

1191
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,400
tanker with 3,000 gallons and a th00and

1192
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,359
gpm pump at 645.

1193
00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:37,440
So when I say we would lose a tanker, we

1194
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,200
would lose we don't consider the pump

1195
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040
five to be a tanker at all. It's

1196
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,440
strictly a frontline pumper which is

1197
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,359
required under NFPA and it has to be

1198
00:44:47,359 --> 00:44:49,599
under the 20-year mark to be a frontline

1199
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,880
pumper. Um, and then our two tankers,

1200
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,040
uh, our support vehicles for that pump

1201
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,510
are out of fire.

1202
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,800
» Go ahead, Tiffany.

1203
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,710
>> Um, forgive me if I've missed it

1204
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:02,720
» Um, forgive me if I've missed it

1205
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:05,359
somewhere in the in the package, but we

1206
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:10,710
talked about how this was funded yet.

1207
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,160
» That's why I didn't see that.

1208
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,790
>> Okay. So,

1209
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:12,800
» Okay. So,

1210
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,829
>> yeah. Um well to fully fund the uh the

1211
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:15,839
» yeah. Um well to fully fund the uh the

1212
00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:17,280
tanker through our fleet and equip

1213
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,599
reserve uh the estimated transfer to

1214
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,520
this reserve in 2026 would be

1215
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,520
approximately 700,000. Um any remaining

1216
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,839
amounts to be funded uh we we're

1217
00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:29,680
projecting a year-end balance in the

1218
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,079
fleet and equipment reserve this year uh

1219
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,599
estimated to be about 280,527

1220
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,240
so that could be utilized as well. So

1221
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,720
we're hoping to fund it through reserves

1222
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,880
rather than borrow.

1223
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,829
>> Thank you.

1224
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:45,839
» Thank you.

1225
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:47,750
>> So

1226
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:47,760
» So

1227
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,400
can I ask clarification?

1228
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,240
So if we have 280 in the reserves,

1229
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,319
could we also consider just funding it

1230
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:58,480
with 400,000 and using the reserves to

1231
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,520
offset the additional cost for the

1232
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,319
tanker?

1233
00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:03,349
>> That's council.

1234
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:03,359
» That's council.

1235
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:05,431
>> Yeah, that'll be council discussion.

1236
00:46:05,431 --> 00:46:05,441
» Yeah, that'll be council discussion.

1237
00:46:05,441 --> 00:46:06,800
[clears throat]

1238
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,040
want to know all the options.

1239
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:09,589
>> Go ahead.

1240
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:09,599
» Go ahead.

1241
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:13,109
>> Um, is there a

1242
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:13,119
» Um, is there a

1243
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:14,800
the amount of volume you get to keep

1244
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,040
your shuttle in creditation to get lower

1245
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,560
insurance? There are speed involved in

1246
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,480
how much you can dump off first?

1247
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,030
>> Correct. Yeah. So, we would require you

1248
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:23,040
» Correct. Yeah. So, we would require you

1249
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,040
have to you have to have a pumper and

1250
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,599
two tankers and then even at that we

1251
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,440
have to bring in a third tanker from a

1252
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,839
neighboring municipality to meet the

1253
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:35,440
accreditation limits. um you have to for

1254
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,960
residential you have to be able to pump

1255
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,480
200 gallons per minute uh for an hour

1256
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520
and then commercial um is 400 gallons

1257
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,079
per minute um for an hour without any

1258
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:47,599
interruptions. You have to be set up in

1259
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,000
under five minutes. The only way to do

1260
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,800
that is to have um the pumper command

1261
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,359
utilize its water, the two tankers dump

1262
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:56,880
and then the third tanker from a

1263
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,839
neighboring municipality comes in.

1264
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:02,720
And if I'm not mistaken, that's how um

1265
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,480
the insurance rates are reduced for the

1266
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,599
rural areas.

1267
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:06,230
>> That's correct.

1268
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:06,240
» That's correct.

1269
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,829
>> Yes.

1270
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:07,839
» Yes.

1271
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:11,990
>> So for clarification, if I may, um so if

1272
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:12,000
» So for clarification, if I may, um so if

1273
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,000
we if we lost that accreditation,

1274
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000
obviously

1275
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,640
CO just said the insurance rates would

1276
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,319
go up for the people in the rural area.

1277
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,790
>> Uh would it not affect the people in the

1278
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:24,800
» Uh would it not affect the people in the

1279
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,200
village as well

1280
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,710
>> because of the fire hydrants? Probably

1281
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:28,720
» because of the fire hydrants? Probably

1282
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,599
not. answer your not not so much in the

1283
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:34,800
the rural village now because we only uh

1284
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,280
can offer 500 gallons per minute from

1285
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,680
our hydrants. That's our max flow. Uh we

1286
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,560
do utilize our tankers in town as well.

1287
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,359
Um but it is more the rural residents

1288
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:48,640
that receive the the reduction. Now I do

1289
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,640
know there is some people in town uh

1290
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,839
that have um called my assistant Jenny

1291
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:55,680
and and asked for the accredititation

1292
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,119
number and stuff too to use it for their

1293
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,200
insurance. Uh so there may be people in

1294
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,880
town that are utilizing as well, but we

1295
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,800
have had several callins for the for the

1296
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,720
residential people that are uh

1297
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,800
benefiting from it and and some people

1298
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,319
are saying they've received a 15% or

1299
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:13,200
more decrease in their own service. Go

1300
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,000
ahead, Miss B.

1301
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,990
>> If council chooses to proceed with this

1302
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:16,000
» If council chooses to proceed with this

1303
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,400
purchase, it might be a good idea to

1304
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,720
repost that on our Facebook page so that

1305
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,319
people are aware of the of the

1306
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:25,680
opportunity um kind of those together.

1307
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,720
So yeah. So, for clarification, if I'm

1308
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,000
Oh, sorry. Go ahead, council. You go

1309
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,839
ahead and ask your question.

1310
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,950
>> Um, I've got to think there's a less

1311
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:34,960
» Um, I've got to think there's a less

1312
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,319
costly option to replace the existing

1313
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:41,359
27y old truck with something more

1314
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,359
uh comparable to that, which is just a

1315
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:46,800
tanker with a pump for maybe half the

1316
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,760
cost. Wouldn't there be

1317
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,670
>> through your I haven't been able to find

1318
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:51,680
» through your I haven't been able to find

1319
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,760
anything. That's the the cheapest truck

1320
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,400
I have found. But I even looked um for

1321
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,720
used vehicles and stuff. Uh anything

1322
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,280
used was basically in the same condition

1323
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,800
as this. Somebody already taken it out

1324
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,559
of service. Um

1325
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,040
yeah, I I honestly I I had no luck

1326
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,119
finding anything other than this. This

1327
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:13,040
is kind of the the new tanker. They have

1328
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,440
a they have a pump on them. And I even I

1329
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,559
looked at all our neighboring

1330
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:18,160
municipalities, what they're running.

1331
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,240
They're all running the exact same type

1332
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:23,599
of vehicle. Um, and it's that capability

1333
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,079
to pressurize that water coming off that

1334
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:28,319
truck to be able to to get it to the the

1335
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:31,599
pumper be, you know, if it's a we we see

1336
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,359
laneways that are half a kilometer long

1337
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:34,480
and we have to move water from the

1338
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,119
roadway up to the to the house. Um, and

1339
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,359
we have to do that under pressure. So,

1340
00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:42,720
we're not having enough apparatus to to

1341
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,880
do that. Uh because the pumper has to be

1342
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,720
up at the fire and then we have to

1343
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,319
utilize those tankers down the road

1344
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,319
pressurizing the water up to the to the

1345
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:53,200
pumper to fight the fire. um just uh

1346
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,520
even if I if I could find just a basic

1347
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,520
tanker, we would struggle because then

1348
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,280
we would have to take the other pumper

1349
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,359
tanker we currently have and it would

1350
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:03,040
have to sit in the road and pump and we

1351
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,139
would then be down another truck again.

1352
00:50:07,139 --> 00:50:08,000
[clears throat]

1353
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,589
>> Go ahead, counselor.

1354
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:09,599
» Go ahead, counselor.

1355
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,630
>> Yeah, my position is um we do the option

1356
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:12,640
» Yeah, my position is um we do the option

1357
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,680
that uh keeps our service seamless uh

1358
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,160
what our current service is. Um it's

1359
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,160
it's an emergency vehicle and it's uh

1360
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
something that has to be able to

1361
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,640
withstand pretty rough driving. Um it's

1362
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,559
not going to be cheap. Um and and like I

1363
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,640
said, staff has brought the cost down.

1364
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,960
It's a service I think our residents uh

1365
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,559
hazard to say our residents want to want

1366
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:35,680
to keep. I don't think people in the

1367
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,200
rural areas want to see their insurance

1368
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,319
go up either. Um I I said I think it's

1369
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:42,800
well explained in in the report. It's it

1370
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,240
when you're dealing with such a small

1371
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,240
fleet, you're when one goal is you're

1372
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,359
going to have to replace one of them.

1373
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:48,960
That's just um that's that's going to be

1374
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,960
how it is. So I I I still support this.

1375
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,079
Go ahead, counselor.

1376
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:56,710
>> So my opinion is we should be going out

1377
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:56,720
» So my opinion is we should be going out

1378
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,880
to tender for something comparable to uh

1379
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,559
what we have now in order to reduce this

1380
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,760
cost. This is this is too much to bear

1381
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,240
right now for this municipality and

1382
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,760
we're trying to

1383
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,400
repair infrastructure.

1384
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Um,

1385
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,880
so the question is we would have we

1386
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,200
would then have three pumper tankers if

1387
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,920
we bought this one, right?

1388
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,695
>> No, two two pumper tankers, one pumper.

1389
00:51:27,695 --> 00:51:27,705
» No, two two pumper tankers, one pumper.

1390
00:51:27,705 --> 00:51:28,240
[clears throat]

1391
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,630
>> And which one is the pumper? The 2016 or

1392
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:30,640
» And which one is the pumper? The 2016 or

1393
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,000
the 2022?

1394
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,990
>> And what do our surrounding

1395
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:36,000
» And what do our surrounding

1396
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,800
municipalities have in general compared

1397
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,160
to that?

1398
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,319
Um, so North Grumble has three pumper

1399
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:47,680
tankers, uh, two pumpers,

1400
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,960
um, Lizardtown Kitley has three pumper

1401
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,480
tankers,

1402
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,040
um, three pumpers because they have

1403
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,440
three stations as well as their rescues.

1404
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,079
Actually, Liztown Kitley has four um,

1405
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:01,760
pumper tankers because they would lease

1406
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,559
us the one that's just spare. Um well I

1407
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:09,040
all all the municipalities even um I

1408
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,119
hope this doesn't come in wrong um front

1409
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,800
of Young being a smaller municipality

1410
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,440
they they also have two comfort hangers

1411
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,760
as well. Um

1412
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,559
yeah it's it is common practice um

1413
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,880
across the board. We're we're on the low

1414
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,200
end only having two for our service

1415
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,920
area.

1416
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,230
>> Yeah. So I stand by my suggestion that

1417
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:30,240
» Yeah. So I stand by my suggestion that

1418
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,280
we should be going to tender for

1419
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,800
something comparable to what we have

1420
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,119
that will maintain the service level

1421
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,960
rather than increase.

1422
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,309
>> Thank you deputy mayor.

1423
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:40,319
» Thank you deputy mayor.

1424
00:52:40,319 --> 00:52:42,790
>> And and what does a time frame look like

1425
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:42,800
» And and what does a time frame look like

1426
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520
for going to tender? What's the impact

1427
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,920
on our operations?

1428
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,630
>> Uh so if we went to tender uh sorry

1429
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:50,640
» Uh so if we went to tender uh sorry

1430
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,079
through your worship if we went to

1431
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,960
tender um to have a truck basically

1432
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,520
custom built is is what I'm I'm hearing.

1433
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,760
Um we're probably in the neighborhood of

1434
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,839
5 to 600 days uh for delivery days.

1435
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:07,040
Yeah. Um yeah. So better part of two

1436
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,630
years for delivery. Um

1437
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,160
if we went to tender and looked for

1438
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,800
something immediately, we would

1439
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,559
the people that have what we've looked

1440
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:20,480
at right now would be bidding on it

1441
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,280
essentially. Um, and the pumper tankers

1442
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,880
we've looked at right now ranged from

1443
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,640
the 645

1444
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,920
right up to 780,000.

1445
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,720
Um, that's the range I've been in. Um,

1446
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,280
and and stat, but they're looking to

1447
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,440
utilize the very bottom end of that

1448
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,599
scale. So, we haven't asked for any

1449
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,640
fancy stuff or anything like that. Um, I

1450
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,119
reached out to a handful of suppliers uh

1451
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,200
and only have two that have anything

1452
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,400
available. Um, and that was the that was

1453
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,359
the price range. Uh, 645 to to 780. Um,

1454
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:00,559
but yeah, we would be looking at

1455
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:02,319
at that point if we went to tenor like

1456
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:04,240
that, we would have to try and move into

1457
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,079
an automatic date agreements with all

1458
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,319
the neighboring departments. Um, and

1459
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:10,000
when I looked that up, I think that

1460
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,880
equated to those trucks responding to

1461
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,920
roughly um, 65% of our calls a year at

1462
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,520
$585 an hour as soon as the tone goes

1463
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,680
off until that truck returns to their

1464
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,920
station. So just to say the list Kayley

1465
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,280
responded here and went back, we'd be

1466
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,240
looking at a minimum of two hours. So

1467
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:35,200
every call for us would be a a th00and

1468
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,800
the $1,200 bill roughly for every call

1469
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,559
um that we go to because anything that

1470
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,480
has the potential of fire we would need

1471
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,640
a truck rolling right away for that

1472
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,319
scene. So we wouldn't have time to wait.

1473
00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:47,680
So they would have to as soon as we get

1474
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,000
a call they would have to go into uh

1475
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,440
they'd have to respond immediately.

1476
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,440
I I would make the observation that

1477
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,559
given the timeline for tender and

1478
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,880
doesn't sound realistic that we find a

1479
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,920
less expensive option um I would

1480
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,119
continue to support option number one so

1481
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:09,359
that we can maintain the level of

1482
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:12,240
service for our residents.

1483
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,349
>> Uh chief if I may just for clarification

1484
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:15,359
» Uh chief if I may just for clarification

1485
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:18,319
uh for tender could we not put a tender

1486
00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:20,720
out for a ready build?

1487
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:24,160
Um, yes, the worst that we could. Um,

1488
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,240
but I' I've scoured everywhere and the

1489
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,240
only ready builds are what I've brought

1490
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,079
to council and this is the cheapest one

1491
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:31,200
of of those options.

1492
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,790
>> And the reason why I'm asking is just

1493
00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:32,800
» And the reason why I'm asking is just

1494
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,760
for cl uh for clarity being upfront

1495
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,440
because there are there's a procurement

1496
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,200
process that we need to follow and we

1497
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,280
have to follow those guidelines to make

1498
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:42,720
sure we're not putting the municipality

1499
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:47,119
in a position of liable. Uh so

1500
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:49,359
having already reached out and had

1501
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:52,240
conversations with the providers, did

1502
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,280
they provide you any documentation that

1503
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,839
lists the specifics of the vehicle and

1504
00:55:57,839 --> 00:55:58,799
the cost?

1505
00:55:58,799 --> 00:55:59,750
>> Yes.

1506
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:59,760
» Yes.

1507
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,470
>> And did we supply that to council?

1508
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:02,480
» And did we supply that to council?

1509
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,430
>> Uh I I did not your worship. So they um

1510
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:05,440
» Uh I I did not your worship. So they um

1511
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,000
when I reached they they're they give

1512
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,920
you a budgetary number um but they won't

1513
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,200
commit to a price um when they go to

1514
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,760
tender because

1515
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,670
>> understandable they could have put an

1516
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:19,680
» understandable they could have put an

1517
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,280
expression of interest in

1518
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,430
>> could we have not and just so we would

1519
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:23,440
» could we have not and just so we would

1520
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,599
get an idea of the cost.

1521
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:27,349
>> So through your version I I did discuss

1522
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:27,359
» So through your version I I did discuss

1523
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:28,799
that with them. We we could have done

1524
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,400
that. It was just the kind of the short

1525
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,920
time frame with it being around

1526
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,400
Christmas and stuff and and staffing at

1527
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,319
the these places. I've struggled to get

1528
00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:37,520
a lot of stuff back from them

1529
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,000
unfortunately. Um and I literally had

1530
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,599
one person uh call me back um on Friday

1531
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,599
um with the price which unfortunately

1532
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:47,680
was the 780 so it wasn't realistic

1533
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,799
anyhow. Um but I do have documents as to

1534
00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:53,359
the specs on the vehicle. All three

1535
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:55,680
vehicles available are the exact same

1536
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,040
vehicle. Um, the only difference is the

1537
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,119
top end truck, sorry, not even the top

1538
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:04,240
end truck, the mid price truck, um,

1539
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,599
holds 600 gallons more water. Um, but it

1540
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,480
was $100,000 more than the other one.

1541
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,400
So, it was pretty hard to justify

1542
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,280
100,000 for 600 gallons of water.

1543
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,150
>> But they're identical cabs and

1544
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:18,160
» But they're identical cabs and

1545
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,880
everything's the exact same. Um, the

1546
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,720
only difference is three different water

1547
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,839
amounts. The low range one is 3,000

1548
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:28,480
gallons. The mid-range is 2500 gallon or

1549
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,559
sorry mid-range is 3600 and the top

1550
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,559
range is 2500.

1551
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:35,359
Um that was the only difference. Um and

1552
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:38,640
again I would love to tender. Um I just

1553
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,240
don't see that we have the time frame to

1554
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,760
safely do it.

1555
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,230
>> Go ahead. Uh something that sticks in my

1556
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:44,240
» Go ahead. Uh something that sticks in my

1557
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,200
memory from the uh asset management

1558
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,839
presentation from Watson and Associates

1559
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:53,680
was 2027 and $2 million to replace the

1560
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,200
uh the ladder truck.

1561
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,960
So I mean is the plan to replace both of

1562
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,559
these now through your worship. So I am

1563
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,000
working with a couple of different

1564
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,920
companies just to get reports back on

1565
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,799
aerial truck. Um,

1566
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:12,799
I don't want to say yes or no, but I

1567
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:14,640
don't believe that truck would need to

1568
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,920
be replaced at that date. Um, shown on

1569
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640
the thing. Um, it's no longer a

1570
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,960
frontline pump truck. It's a aerial

1571
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,319
truck with a pump on it. Uh so from what

1572
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:29,520
I have learned so far, as long as the

1573
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,160
aerial device um passes its annual

1574
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,839
inspections and the truck passes its

1575
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:35,920
annual inspections, its life cycle can

1576
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,920
be extended past the recommendation of

1577
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,559
Watson Associates.

1578
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,870
>> Clarification, Chief, as well along that

1579
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:44,880
» Clarification, Chief, as well along that

1580
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,760
line. So if we were to uh find ourselves

1581
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,040
in a situation because uh we're a

1582
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,240
municipality of uh minimal means and we

1583
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,040
we face a daunting task. Everybody knows

1584
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,005
that. Don't need to dive into the pool.

1585
00:58:59,005 --> 00:58:59,599
[sighs]

1586
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,359
Uh

1587
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:04,480
but it's my understanding that we can

1588
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,240
also have the truck assessed and do the

1589
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,920
work necessary to have it reertified.

1590
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,079
And I think the reertification can be up

1591
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:18,400
to five years saying that you know if we

1592
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,480
don't happen to meet um the requirement

1593
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:27,280
putting repair work in and value um

1594
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,280
versus time

1595
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,599
uh you know is that an option?

1596
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,109
>> Sorry. So you're you're talking about

1597
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:35,119
» Sorry. So you're you're talking about

1598
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:36,240
the aerial check though

1599
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,069
>> any one of our vehicles. So, I mean,

1600
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:38,079
» any one of our vehicles. So, I mean,

1601
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:41,119
some vehicles, you know, if we were to

1602
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:42,720
put in a certain amount, like putting in

1603
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,200
10,000 or 15,000 or $20,000 worth of

1604
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,000
work

1605
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,309
>> to extend the life of that vehicle for 5

1606
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:48,319
» to extend the life of that vehicle for 5

1607
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:51,440
years versus spending one or 1.2 or $2

1608
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,880
million

1609
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,030
>> given the challenges that we have within

1610
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:55,040
» given the challenges that we have within

1611
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,520
the municipality and all the needs. Um,

1612
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,640
my understanding that that avenue is

1613
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,119
available should it be of interest for

1614
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:06,559
council to move that way. Is that

1615
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:08,319
correct or incorrect?

1616
01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:10,789
>> Uh, yes, absolutely. There are aspects

1617
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:10,799
» Uh, yes, absolutely. There are aspects

1618
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,640
of that are correct. Um, and I and I

1619
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,200
reached out, it's in the report here for

1620
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,799
the tender truck to see if that was a

1621
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:19,440
viable option to replace the frame rails

1622
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440
and everything. Um, unfortunately, the

1623
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,520
the largest company that does this is in

1624
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,440
Missaga. They wouldn't even um bid on

1625
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,040
doing it. They said they have done it in

1626
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,119
the past a couple years ago and by the

1627
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:32,559
time they were done it was almost the

1628
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:35,440
price of a do truck again because

1629
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,640
everything's in the same condition on

1630
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,520
the truck. Um, but I do know City of

1631
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,920
Toronto at about the seven or eight year

1632
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,240
mark of a of a fleet vehicles life

1633
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,160
cycle, it goes into this company and

1634
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,720
they do basically a refurbishing truck.

1635
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,870
>> Um, that equates to generally around 125

1636
01:00:52,870 --> 01:00:52,880
» Um, that equates to generally around 125

1637
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,359
to 150,000. Um, but it does extend the

1638
01:00:57,359 --> 01:00:58,880
life cycle of that vehicle.

1639
01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,829
>> Yeah.

1640
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:59,839
» Yeah.

1641
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:02,470
>> And I wasn't being uh specific to any

1642
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:02,480
» And I wasn't being uh specific to any

1643
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:03,520
vehicle.

1644
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,470
>> I was just putting it out there as we're

1645
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:06,480
» I was just putting it out there as we're

1646
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,960
moving forward and understand the

1647
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,480
challenges that we're that we're going

1648
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,760
to have to face uh over the next uh you

1649
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,599
know two or three terms of council. um

1650
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:20,160
perhaps intervening

1651
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,680
uh with

1652
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,240
that approach rather than allowing it to

1653
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,000
get to a point where the frame is

1654
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,440
completely rotten.

1655
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,390
>> So I mean I'm uh in the industry that I

1656
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:32,400
» So I mean I'm uh in the industry that I

1657
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,359
worked in, we did that. We used to send

1658
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:37,200
uh hundreds of vehicles out for

1659
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,520
refurbish versus the replacement costs.

1660
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,480
So refurbishing is expensive but a lot

1661
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,920
cheaper than uh replacement. But we used

1662
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,160
to set a marker when a vehicle reached a

1663
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,960
certain status

1664
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,040
uh that we would send it out then rather

1665
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,640
than waiting for the frame to completely

1666
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,200
rot and then have no option but to go

1667
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,680
with the new option. So, is that

1668
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,720
something that uh the fire department

1669
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,200
could start to consider to help

1670
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,880
alleviate some of the pressures that

1671
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,720
we're facing?

1672
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,680
Absolutely. And we've also uh started a

1673
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,520
new um truck committee. Um my deputy

1674
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,520
who's a licensed mechanic is the head of

1675
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,880
that committee and and that's kind of

1676
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,680
their their job boarding forward is um

1677
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,160
fleet inspections more regularly, uh

1678
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,079
maintenance recommendations and stuff

1679
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:32,480
like that to keep their fleet

1680
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,319
Yeah. Go ahead. Finish up, Chief.

1681
01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:35,829
>> Yeah. Just just to keep the fleet in

1682
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:35,839
» Yeah. Just just to keep the fleet in

1683
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:37,200
good repair and and to make those

1684
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,880
recommendations that that extend the

1685
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,319
life cycles of the vehicles.

1686
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:42,710
>> Yeah. So, and and when and as that moves

1687
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:42,720
» Yeah. So, and and when and as that moves

1688
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,040
forward, I think it's a good idea, but

1689
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,839
we have to have a ensure that council

1690
01:02:47,839 --> 01:02:50,319
has a full understanding that, you know,

1691
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:52,799
there's a certain point in time when a

1692
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:55,440
vehicle needs to have intervention. Uh

1693
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,240
otherwise, you're facing a a larger

1694
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,510
>> challenge. Go ahead. Yes,

1695
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:59,520
» challenge. Go ahead. Yes,

1696
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,030
>> I think it was recommended that we do a

1697
01:03:01,030 --> 01:03:01,040
» I think it was recommended that we do a

1698
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,760
fire master plan and all those things we

1699
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,440
be incorporated into the fire master

1700
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,359
plan and that was one of the things that

1701
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:09,280
we had incorporated into the proposed

1702
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,799
budget for 2026.

1703
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:12,950
>> I just had music go off in my ears. I've

1704
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:12,960
» I just had music go off in my ears. I've

1705
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,480
been talking about fire master plan for

1706
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,160
years. I think it's a very valuable

1707
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,760
uh process to to get involved in because

1708
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,839
it it gives us uh advanced notice on

1709
01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:28,880
what expectations are.

1710
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,160
So, uh, one more question and I forgot

1711
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,680
what it was now. Um,

1712
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160
oh, the vehicle. So, this vehicle that

1713
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,920
you're talking about that's ready today,

1714
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,039
is it exactly what you need

1715
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,680
or will there be a secondary ask? And

1716
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,440
the reason why I ask is that we done

1717
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,359
that in 2022.

1718
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:52,880
We were in a position where it was an

1719
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,799
emergency. We need to source a new

1720
01:03:54,799 --> 01:03:57,440
vehicle. we got the new vehicle and then

1721
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,079
after we got the new vehicle there was

1722
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:02,000
uh other requirements that the vehicle

1723
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,359
didn't have so we supported it uh

1724
01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:07,839
shelving so on and so forth which wasn't

1725
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:11,119
an extended amount of money

1726
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:13,520
should council decide this is the way to

1727
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,119
go

1728
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:18,319
are you saying that this vehicle when it

1729
01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:22,230
arrives as is

1730
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,319
sufficient enough

1731
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:26,960
and will fulfill the role needed for the

1732
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,880
miss valley without an extra task.

1733
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,430
>> Oh yeah, through your worship. The only

1734
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:33,440
» Oh yeah, through your worship. The only

1735
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,359
extra thing and I don't even think it is

1736
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:37,839
a requirement. I think it's generally

1737
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:39,200
it's covering the price would be

1738
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,799
lettering the vehicle. Um and just a

1739
01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:45,839
switch over of the radio from the

1740
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:47,839
previous vehicle to that vehicle, which

1741
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:51,520
equates to couple hundred maybe. Um but

1742
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,359
other than that, everything else is on

1743
01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:56,000
the vehicle. the specs show it own tank

1744
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,640
all that stuff and then hose all that

1745
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,440
stuff with current truck and just be

1746
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,680
moved over to that truck. Um and being a

1747
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,920
tanker it doesn't have shelving. It just

1748
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,160
added the rollup doors at the bottom so

1749
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,000
it wouldn't require any any additional

1750
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,680
stuff. It it comes um fully ready to go.

1751
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,680
The only change and and I added that in

1752
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,359
here um is um it has to have its um

1753
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:23,039
inspection UL inspection done um and

1754
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:25,920
then tax and the delivery I think is

1755
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,760
kind of tied in with it or whatever. But

1756
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,119
worst case scenario we'll go and throw

1757
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,039
it back if they have to. But there there

1758
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:33,039
would be no extra ass. I've had my

1759
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:35,839
deputy go through the uh the proposal

1760
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:37,680
from them and the truck specs and then

1761
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,400
it comes with everything we need. Um the

1762
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,160
only extra stuff like I said might be

1763
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,240
lettering if it's not included the

1764
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,039
vehicle transfer of the plates and uh

1765
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,920
the radio and we're going to utilize

1766
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,079
everything else from that other tanker

1767
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:53,680
just to move over to the new one if if

1768
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,680
that's the decision council.

1769
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,349
>> Yeah. No, I just and I just asked

1770
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:57,359
» Yeah. No, I just and I just asked

1771
01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:00,640
because I remember in 2022 it was, you

1772
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,559
know, a truck that was, you know, ready

1773
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,079
to go and everybody was excited about

1774
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:05,680
it, but after we received it, then

1775
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,240
council, you know, was asked again to

1776
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,880
supply another 25,000 for shelving and I

1777
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,760
think there was a few more asks. So, you

1778
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,760
know,

1779
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,520
you know, [clears throat] I'm

1780
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,760
understanding that you're happy with

1781
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,359
this

1782
01:06:21,359 --> 01:06:25,039
and my understanding is that

1783
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:26,640
it's going to meet the requirements

1784
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,160
without extra asks. Correct.

1785
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,829
>> Okay. Just wanted clarification on that.

1786
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:33,839
» Okay. Just wanted clarification on that.

1787
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,440
So, is there any other questions or

1788
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:40,150
comments?

1789
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,880
None. Okay. So I guess we'll call the

1790
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,280
vote on option one

1791
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,119
and that is carried.

1792
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:59,430
All those opposed.

1793
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,839
» Going to go on to communication up

1794
01:07:01,839 --> 01:07:03,280
equipment update that the council of the

1795
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,480
corporation of the village of Miracle

1796
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,079
Wolf received for information report

1797
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:07,520
regarding communication equipment

1798
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,160
upgrade. May I have a mover please?

1799
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,029
>> Thank you. in a seconder, please.

1800
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:13,039
» Thank you. in a seconder, please.

1801
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:13,670
>> A second.

1802
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:13,680
» A second.

1803
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,870
>> Thank you. Uh comments or questions or

1804
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:16,880
» Thank you. Uh comments or questions or

1805
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,319
um from staff or from councel?

1806
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:24,000
Would anybody care to provide any other?

1807
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,880
No comments. No questions. Go ahead.

1808
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,069
>> Um I was in the last county council

1809
01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:30,079
» Um I was in the last county council

1810
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,520
meeting and it was um referred to in

1811
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,599
that meeting that the chase were um

1812
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:37,039
bringing this forward. So that's why I

1813
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:40,000
ask people to provide this information

1814
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,160
item only and it's something to consider

1815
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,160
for future years. But now you know

1816
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,430
>> okay you have a a vote calling here and

1817
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:49,440
» okay you have a a vote calling here and

1818
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,599
if it's it's just for information just

1819
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,440
to receive the information.

1820
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,589
>> Yeah. So that there's going to be a

1821
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:55,599
» Yeah. So that there's going to be a

1822
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:58,880
deeper dive in at county level. So

1823
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,630
>> any comments or questions for members?

1824
01:08:00,630 --> 01:08:00,640
» any comments or questions for members?

1825
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,319
If none I'll call the vote. All in

1826
01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:04,880
favor? Carried. Thank you. Finance

1827
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,079
nothing. Building Department

1828
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:11,039
CEO administration

1829
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:14,559
um a year review summary report 2025 to

1830
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:15,520
the council of the corporation of the

1831
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,040
bill will receive for receive for

1832
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,960
information report regarding the year

1833
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,839
year end review summary from January to

1834
01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:26,080
December 2025. May I have a mover

1835
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,920
please?

1836
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,349
>> Thank you. Moved and seconded deputy

1837
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:29,359
» Thank you. Moved and seconded deputy

1838
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:30,880
mayor. Thank you. Thank you.

1839
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,870
>> Comments or questions?

1840
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,159
» Go ahead, Deputy Mayor.

1841
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:38,789
>> Will will we have an opportunity to post

1842
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:38,799
» Will will we have an opportunity to post

1843
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:43,120
this um the slideshow for the better on

1844
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:43,679
the website?

1845
01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:45,510
>> Yeah, it's on my list for tomorrow.

1846
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:45,520
» Yeah, it's on my list for tomorrow.

1847
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,550
>> Okay, great. Um my compliments to

1848
01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:48,560
» Okay, great. Um my compliments to

1849
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,040
everything that staff have accomplished.

1850
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,870
That's a nice layout.

1851
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,040
» That's a that's a clerk clerky thank

1852
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,319
you.

1853
01:08:58,319 --> 01:08:59,829
>> Well, well done. had a great talk to you

1854
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:59,839
» Well, well done. had a great talk to you

1855
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:01,279
again.

1856
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,349
>> Uh yeah, it's important to celebrate our

1857
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:03,359
» Uh yeah, it's important to celebrate our

1858
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:07,440
wins, of course, and uh

1859
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:08,880
you know, it's important that we put out

1860
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,560
on all our social media and make sure

1861
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,759
that uh we advertise that well. With no

1862
01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:15,040
other comments or questions, I'll call

1863
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,480
the vote. All in favor? Car. Thank you.

1864
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:20,480
Department activity update clerk that

1865
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:21,440
the council of the corporation of the

1866
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:23,120
village of Merit Foler received for

1867
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,799
information departmental activity update

1868
01:09:24,799 --> 01:09:26,799
report from the clerk's department as

1869
01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:28,560
presented. May I have a mover, please?

1870
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:29,030
>> I'll move.

1871
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:29,040
» I'll move.

1872
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,630
>> Thank you. Seconder, please.

1873
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:30,640
» Thank you. Seconder, please.

1874
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:31,269
>> Second.

1875
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:31,279
» Second.

1876
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:34,630
>> Thank you. Um,

1877
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:34,640
» Thank you. Um,

1878
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,960
do we have any comments or questions

1879
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,120
from members?

1880
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,400
Anything from staff addition? Uh,

1881
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:43,269
>> no.

1882
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:43,279
» no.

1883
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,749
>> Anything else unless

1884
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:45,759
» Anything else unless

1885
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:48,640
nothing comments or questions? Call. All

1886
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,080
in favor? Carried. Departmental activity

1887
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,080
update amen and finance of the

1888
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,920
corporation council of the corporation

1889
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,000
of vill receive for information

1890
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,760
department activity update concerning a

1891
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,080
men and finance. May I have a mover

1892
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,040
please?

1893
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:03,430
>> Move.

1894
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:03,440
» Move.

1895
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,390
>> Thank you. Seconder, please.

1896
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:06,400
» Thank you. Seconder, please.

1897
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,189
>> I'll second.

1898
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:07,199
» I'll second.

1899
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:12,310
>> Thank you. Comments or questions?

1900
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,840
Go ahead, counselor.

1901
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,270
>> There are no attachments here. Was there

1902
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:15,280
» There are no attachments here. Was there

1903
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,280
supposed to be a report?

1904
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,679
I see person's gone. No, there was it

1905
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:20,719
was supposed to be there. We can

1906
01:10:20,719 --> 01:10:22,560
circulate that [laughter]

1907
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,910
>> tomorrow. Was it

1908
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:23,920
» tomorrow. Was it

1909
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,590
>> the uh admin finance and admin?

1910
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:27,600
» the uh admin finance and admin?

1911
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,870
>> Okay.

1912
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:28,880
» Okay.

1913
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,510
>> So, you you'll circle tomorrow. Yeah.

1914
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:31,520
» So, you you'll circle tomorrow. Yeah.

1915
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,590
>> And we'll also put it out for the public

1916
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:33,600
» And we'll also put it out for the public

1917
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:34,320
as well.

1918
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:35,990
>> Yes. [gasps]

1919
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:36,000
» Yes. [gasps]

1920
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,870
>> Any other comments or questions?

1921
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:38,880
» Any other comments or questions?

1922
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,350
>> None. Call the vote. All in favor?

1923
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:41,360
» None. Call the vote. All in favor?

1924
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:46,159
Carried. Action item uh B uh waiver

1925
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:47,840
request.

1926
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,679
St. Margarite

1927
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:51,600
and somebody help me with the last name.

1928
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,229
>> Bja

1929
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:52,239
» Bja

1930
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:53,350
>> Bourgeoa [clears throat]

1931
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:53,360
» Bourgeoa [clears throat]

1932
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,040
Messi that the council of the

1933
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,320
corporation of the village of Merville

1934
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,520
Wolford receive for information the fee

1935
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,120
wave request from EOS St. Margaret Bjour

1936
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,800
for the use of the Merrickville

1937
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,239
Community Center for their Thanksgiving

1938
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:08,400
lunchon. And further that council does

1939
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,040
hereby approve the option

1940
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,360
option A

1941
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,239
approve the request as presented and

1942
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:21,360
direct staff to pro uh to process the

1943
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,480
refund payment for the whole rental or B

1944
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,320
does not approve the request as

1945
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,480
presented and direct staff to notify the

1946
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:31,360
requesttor. May I have a mover, please?

1947
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,000
I'll move

1948
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,390
>> and a seconder, please.

1949
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:34,400
» and a seconder, please.

1950
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:34,950
>> Second.

1951
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:34,960
» Second.

1952
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,030
>> Thank you. We'll take uh comments and

1953
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:37,040
» Thank you. We'll take uh comments and

1954
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,560
questions and uh

1955
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,790
>> option preferences, please. Go ahead,

1956
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:42,800
» option preferences, please. Go ahead,

1957
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:43,679
counselor.

1958
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:45,669
>> Yeah, I I don't have a too much a

1959
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:45,679
» Yeah, I I don't have a too much a

1960
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:46,640
problem with the fee waver. I just

1961
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,040
noticed that the date of the the event

1962
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,640
was October 10th. So, are they actually

1963
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,960
looking for a refund?

1964
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,189
>> It was very confusing for staff as well.

1965
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:55,199
» It was very confusing for staff as well.

1966
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:57,280
Um but yes, they're looking for a

1967
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:57,760
refund.

1968
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,350
>> Okay.

1969
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:59,360
» Okay.

1970
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,880
Right,

1971
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,080
Deb. Um,

1972
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,590
>> and do they normally receive the use of

1973
01:12:05,590 --> 01:12:05,600
» and do they normally receive the use of

1974
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:11,510
the community center at no cost?

1975
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,000
I think they have in the past whether it

1976
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,480
was an oversight or not, but it was

1977
01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:20,080
their um impression that they would be

1978
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,990
although they would like to.

1979
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,440
» Any other comments or questions from

1980
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,040
members?

1981
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,679
Go ahead, councelor. um generally not

1982
01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:32,400
against uh providing the community

1983
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,920
center free of charge, but it's kind of

1984
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,760
irregular to come to us for a refund

1985
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,440
after the fact. So, I think it should

1986
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:42,000
have been agreed to upfront.

1987
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,800
So, I'm kind of leaning against

1988
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,199
approving particular request, but I'll

1989
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,960
go with whatever council wants to do,

1990
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,199
I'm assuming.

1991
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:55,760
Um we don't have any history on that,

1992
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,480
Miss Pman. So, I don't ever really

1993
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,800
recall them ever having a Thanksgiving

1994
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,400
dinner at the community center. I know

1995
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,120
they used to have a Christmas play.

1996
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,430
>> This is going back and forth uh with

1997
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:07,440
» This is going back and forth uh with

1998
01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:09,760
staff because

1999
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,320
the one document said 2025 and the one

2000
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,640
said for 2022

2001
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,440
and um

2002
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:21,199
they provided something in a

2003
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:23,600
email that wasn't really consistent.

2004
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,390
>> Mhm. And so it it was difficult for us

2005
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:26,400
» Mhm. And so it it was difficult for us

2006
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,679
to make that decision,

2007
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:31,840
but uh it's totally up to council. I

2008
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,640
mean, what's

2009
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,350
>> I know we do supply it for free for the

2010
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:35,360
» I know we do supply it for free for the

2011
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,159
public school.

2012
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:37,590
>> Yeah.

2013
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:37,600
» Yeah.

2014
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,590
>> And we've have a history with that. So

2015
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:41,600
» And we've have a history with that. So

2016
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,350
>> whatever council would like to do.

2017
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:43,360
» whatever council would like to do.

2018
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:48,310
>> Yes. $100. So, um, just by show of hands

2019
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:48,320
» Yes. $100. So, um, just by show of hands

2020
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,480
for option A, unless you had another

2021
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:51,760
question, mayor,

2022
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,390
>> just just to respect councelor Ireland's

2023
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:54,400
» just just to respect councelor Ireland's

2024
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,159
concern, um, in the future, we'll

2025
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:00,080
approve it in advance

2026
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,830
>> as opposed to

2027
01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:01,840
» as opposed to

2028
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,709
>> after the fact. And if we have, as you

2029
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:04,719
» after the fact. And if we have, as you

2030
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:06,560
point out, a history doing the same for

2031
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,120
the public school, then seems only fair.

2032
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:09,590
>> Yeah.

2033
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:09,600
» Yeah.

2034
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,550
>> Yeah.

2035
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:10,560
» Yeah.

2036
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,630
>> So, I'm I'm sure that you've relayed

2037
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:12,640
» So, I'm I'm sure that you've relayed

2038
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,159
that message to them. they need to ask

2039
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:15,920
in advance. Yeah. So,

2040
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,950
>> so, uh, just with a a show of hands for

2041
01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:18,960
» so, uh, just with a a show of hands for

2042
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,280
option B, uh, A, so we get a feel of

2043
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,719
what, uh, we're going to fill the blank

2044
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:24,800
in with.

2045
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,030
>> Okay. So, no need to call on option B.

2046
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:27,040
» Okay. So, no need to call on option B.

2047
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,920
So, option A would be it. So, we're

2048
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,360
going to call vote. If there's no

2049
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,040
further comments or questions, we'll

2050
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,760
call vote on option A for the refund.

2051
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,120
All those in favor? Carried. Thank you.

2052
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,679
Uh, update signage request. Hilda

2053
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:43,280
Seagull that the council of the

2054
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,239
corporation of the village of

2055
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:45,440
Merrickville Wolf received for

2056
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:46,960
information letter from Hilda Seagull

2057
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,120
regarding the updating of business

2058
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,120
signage on the north side of the village

2059
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,640
and further that council does hereby

2060
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,560
direct staff to look into the

2061
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,560
possibility of updating the signage and

2062
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,199
bring any further approvals back to a

2063
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:01,679
future council meeting if required. May

2064
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:02,880
I have a mover, please?

2065
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,229
>> I'll move.

2066
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:04,239
» I'll move.

2067
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:06,550
>> Thank you. In a second, please.

2068
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:06,560
» Thank you. In a second, please.

2069
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,430
>> Thank you. Uh, Miss Pullman, do you want

2070
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:09,440
» Thank you. Uh, Miss Pullman, do you want

2071
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:11,679
to fill us in a little bit on this, but

2072
01:15:11,679 --> 01:15:14,159
this request is

2073
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,920
coming from because I have I have a

2074
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,760
little bit of a history with that and

2075
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,239
I'm was kind of confused why it came.

2076
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:22,709
>> Well, um, she dropped off the

2077
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:22,719
» Well, um, she dropped off the

2078
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:25,440
correspondence. Um, I think whether it

2079
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:27,679
was intended for the the council meeting

2080
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:30,640
or the priority setting exercise, it's

2081
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,159
just for to have council consider

2082
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:33,520
whether they're going to have signage or

2083
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:38,790
not, I believe, or updated signage.

2084
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,000
So,

2085
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,149
>> I don't think there's any specific

2086
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:42,159
» I don't think there's any specific

2087
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:45,040
request. It's just a

2088
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,719
they'd like to have

2089
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:48,630
>> Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Deb.

2090
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:48,640
» Yeah. Okay. Go ahead, Deb.

2091
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,510
>> Um, well, the the request is that the

2092
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:51,520
» Um, well, the the request is that the

2093
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,320
signs be updated so that they properly

2094
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,719
indicate the businesses currently

2095
01:15:56,719 --> 01:16:01,280
located on on the north side. Um,

2096
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,000
so our sign bylaw describes these

2097
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,600
fingerpointing

2098
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,520
signs and each business is to purchase

2099
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,960
their own

2100
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,630
>> um and then is mounted on the post by

2101
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:14,640
» um and then is mounted on the post by

2102
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,080
either municipal staff or someone hired

2103
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,880
to do it. So it is and I know that this

2104
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,840
is a matter of some question within

2105
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,159
members of the chamber of commerce

2106
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:28,960
because the bylaw also

2107
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,520
uh specifies a single company from which

2108
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,560
they can purchase the signs themselves

2109
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,640
and that that company does not appear to

2110
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,760
be in business any longer. So there's um

2111
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,360
there's a number of businesses on the

2112
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,600
north side also on on the south side of

2113
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,080
the river that would like to have some

2114
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,560
kind of update to the sign bylaw or uh

2115
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,960
or an exemption from the requirements of

2116
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,080
the sign bylaw so that they could go out

2117
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,560
and purchase a sign a finger sign and

2118
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,000
have it mounted on on that post or and

2119
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,880
other posts as well.

2120
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,149
>> Any comments questions from members?

2121
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:08,159
» Any comments questions from members?

2122
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:11,360
So, I'll just provide a counsel with uh

2123
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,199
for what I know. And um the polls were

2124
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:18,239
originally put in by the foundry and the

2125
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:20,239
foundry is still an active business. So,

2126
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:21,920
they're still supplying and they supply

2127
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,960
to multiple municipalities uh in our

2128
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:30,000
surrounding area. Um and it was uh Carl

2129
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,840
that

2130
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,159
supplied all the poles and it was Carl

2131
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,159
that did all the maintenance on it. So

2132
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:39,199
Carl would update uh the signage and the

2133
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:41,199
deputy mayor's correct. A business would

2134
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:43,280
ask for it and it would be produced and

2135
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,880
they would pay it. So there was no cost

2136
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,719
to the municipality. My understanding

2137
01:17:46,719 --> 01:17:49,120
was it would just fell under the

2138
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,719
municipal's insurance. So I don't know

2139
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:55,440
is Carl still managing those? Is he

2140
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:56,880
changing them? I know he's been trying

2141
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,560
to get a hold of us to figure out what's

2142
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,280
going on because he's knocked on my door

2143
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,880
a few times asking me. Uh so I've

2144
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,640
directed him where he needed to go but

2145
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,280
and this and this and then this request

2146
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:15,760
comes in from Hilda. So I don't know uh

2147
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,520
what the position or what's happening

2148
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,120
because uh it used to be maintained by

2149
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,159
Carl

2150
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,790
>> and he would take the old side down and

2151
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:24,800
» and he would take the old side down and

2152
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,800
put the new signs up. So, and he

2153
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,800
supplied all the poles at free at no

2154
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,880
cost and he did all the maintenance at

2155
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,040
no cost and he did all the installations

2156
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,080
at no cost. And my understanding is he's

2157
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,960
still in business and the business have

2158
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,719
been contacting him to get the signs,

2159
01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:43,199
but he

2160
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:44,560
didn't have direction on what he could

2161
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,040
do or what he couldn't do. So, there was

2162
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,800
a bit of a confusion. Is there some way

2163
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,440
that we could clear that up so that we

2164
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:53,360
could provide some updated information

2165
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,760
not only to the public but to council

2166
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,239
because I think it's an opportunity

2167
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:00,960
uh having a 1800 founded here still

2168
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,640
producing

2169
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,960
u material

2170
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,400
uh you know it goes with uh it goes with

2171
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:09,920
the history of the village and it goes

2172
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,080
with uh the reason why people come here

2173
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,800
the draw and it would be an amazing part

2174
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,280
in my mind amazing part of the story

2175
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,840
that uh people are asking, well, those

2176
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,040
are beautiful signs. Where are they

2177
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,239
made? Oh, they're right there still. Um,

2178
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,070
>> so was the municipality just the

2179
01:19:26,070 --> 01:19:26,080
» so was the municipality just the

2180
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,600
gobetween or

2181
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,669
>> that was my understanding. It it was it

2182
01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:29,679
» that was my understanding. It it was it

2183
01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:31,600
was done through the chamber many many

2184
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,440
years ago and Carl was on the chamber.

2185
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:34,880
He used to be the president of the

2186
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,159
chamber at some at some point and it was

2187
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:41,600
request from shopkeepers

2188
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,719
that there would be some kind of a

2189
01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:47,840
sign opportunity put out. So Carl built

2190
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,560
and supplied all the poles for free and

2191
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,640
did all the maintenance for free. The

2192
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,000
only cost was to the store or the shop

2193
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,400
business. They would pay the $250 for

2194
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,040
the sign. That was my understanding. But

2195
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,199
I think a little bit more clarity on

2196
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:06,560
what's happening and

2197
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,470
>> what's going on is probably required.

2198
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:08,480
» what's going on is probably required.

2199
01:20:08,480 --> 01:20:10,880
And we do need to start to celebrate

2200
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,709
>> the north side. There are growing

2201
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:12,719
» the north side. There are growing

2202
01:20:12,719 --> 01:20:14,560
businesses over there. And I noticed

2203
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:15,920
that there's a lot of signs that are

2204
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,920
outdated. There's some business haven't

2205
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,239
been here for years. So, might be an

2206
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:23,360
opportunity to refresh that.

2207
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,990
>> Okay. Say who does what and how to do

2208
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:26,000
» Okay. Say who does what and how to do

2209
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:26,719
it. Okay.

2210
01:20:26,719 --> 01:20:28,229
>> If we could get it clear, it's a little

2211
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:28,239
» If we could get it clear, it's a little

2212
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:29,840
clarification would be nice. Thank you.

2213
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,040
Go ahead, Deputy Mayor.

2214
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,990
>> Yeah. Just as a a response to the

2215
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:34,000
» Yeah. Just as a a response to the

2216
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,520
business owners who have signed this

2217
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,600
letter, we can certainly say that the

2218
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:42,560
cost of the signs is is on the business

2219
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,800
owner. Mhm. Okay.

2220
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,390
>> Yeah. I think they uh from what I

2221
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:46,400
» Yeah. I think they uh from what I

2222
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,080
understand, they they understand that

2223
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,360
they understand that they have to pay

2224
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,520
and they have no concerns about paying.

2225
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,120
They just we're trying to get their

2226
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,120
signs up. That's that was all pretty

2227
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,239
much what I understood.

2228
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:00,310
>> Okay. I'll see what I can do.

2229
01:21:00,310 --> 01:21:00,320
» Okay. I'll see what I can do.

2230
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:01,910
>> Appreciate that. Thank you very much.

2231
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:01,920
» Appreciate that. Thank you very much.

2232
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,320
So, um there's no further comments or

2233
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,600
questions. I'll call the vote. All in

2234
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,320
favor?

2235
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:07,270
>> What are we voting on?

2236
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:07,280
» What are we voting on?

2237
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,790
>> Well, just uh we're receiving the

2238
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:08,800
» Well, just uh we're receiving the

2239
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:09,280
letter.

2240
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,110
>> Uh it doesn't say that. It does hereby

2241
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:11,120
» Uh it doesn't say that. It does hereby

2242
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,080
direct staff to look into the

2243
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,679
possibility of updating the signage and

2244
01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:15,360
bring any further approvals back to

2245
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,480
future council meeting if required.

2246
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:20,229
>> So

2247
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:20,239
» So

2248
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:21,679
I was okay with just receiving the

2249
01:21:21,679 --> 01:21:22,719
letter

2250
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:24,709
>> and then you can direct it

2251
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:24,719
» and then you can direct it

2252
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:26,390
>> to try to determine.

2253
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:26,400
» to try to determine.

2254
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,110
>> So we going to do an amendment on this

2255
01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:29,120
» So we going to do an amendment on this

2256
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,790
>> a friendly amendment. Friendly

2257
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:30,800
» a friendly amendment. Friendly

2258
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:31,679
amendment. Yeah.

2259
01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:35,110
>> That uh

2260
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:35,120
» That uh

2261
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,510
>> so and further that council does hereby

2262
01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:37,520
» so and further that council does hereby

2263
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,800
direct staff to look into the

2264
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,080
possibilities. Yeah.

2265
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,790
>> And to bring back at a future council

2266
01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:42,800
» And to bring back at a future council

2267
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:43,360
meeting.

2268
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,790
>> Yeah, that's what it does.

2269
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:44,800
» Yeah, that's what it does.

2270
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,870
>> Does that would that meet your

2271
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:46,880
» Does that would that meet your

2272
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,679
requirement?

2273
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:49,910
>> Yeah. And if the side is like it's and

2274
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:49,920
» Yeah. And if the side is like it's and

2275
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,440
it's not unique to the north side

2276
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:53,440
because as as Deputy Mayor Ber said,

2277
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:55,520
it's just businesses in general. Uh so

2278
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,679
just bring an update on what Okay.

2279
01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:00,950
>> The the previous practice wasn't it um

2280
01:22:00,950 --> 01:22:00,960
» The the previous practice wasn't it um

2281
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,950
>> what's going on.

2282
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:02,960
» what's going on.

2283
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,229
>> Yeah. All the sign there's a lot of

2284
01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:04,239
» Yeah. All the sign there's a lot of

2285
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:06,159
signs that need to be updated. So

2286
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:07,840
further council does hereby direct staff

2287
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,480
to look into the possibilities and bring

2288
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:14,800
back any further uh information uh to a

2289
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,159
future council meeting.

2290
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:17,350
>> Okay.

2291
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:17,360
» Okay.

2292
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,390
>> Is everybody comfortable with that?

2293
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:20,400
» Is everybody comfortable with that?

2294
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,830
>> Okay. So we'll call the vote on the

2295
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:21,840
» Okay. So we'll call the vote on the

2296
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,560
friendly amendment. All those in favor?

2297
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,400
Carried.

2298
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,760
Uh new businesses, announcements,

2299
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,679
statements by members. Does any member

2300
01:22:31,679 --> 01:22:36,390
have an announcement or statement?

2301
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,320
Go ahead, council or deputy mayor.

2302
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:38,880
Sorry.

2303
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,669
>> Today's the day that comments close on

2304
01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:41,679
» Today's the day that comments close on

2305
01:22:41,679 --> 01:22:43,920
the proposed changes to the conservation

2306
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,280
authorities. Um, the RO Valley

2307
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,000
Conservation Authority received support

2308
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,880
from 12 of their 18 municipal

2309
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,360
municipalities. in terms of passing a

2310
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,760
motion supporting the uh opposition to

2311
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,310
the proposed mergers and amalgamations.

2312
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,800
» Any other announcements or Miss

2313
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,320
Plumbley? Are we able to make any

2314
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,600
announcement on the

2315
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,800
update that we got the thing for the the

2316
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,320
BB boxes?

2317
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:20,470
>> Oh, certainly. Uh I believe Julia, you

2318
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:20,480
» Oh, certainly. Uh I believe Julia, you

2319
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:21,679
put it on the website.

2320
01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:22,550
>> It's on the website.

2321
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:22,560
» It's on the website.

2322
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,390
>> Put it on the website. Yeah. Yeah.

2323
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:24,400
» Put it on the website. Yeah. Yeah.

2324
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,870
>> Okay. So, I just, you know, there's a

2325
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:26,880
» Okay. So, I just, you know, there's a

2326
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,120
exciting announcement that we're going

2327
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,960
to have uh blue box in the Wolford area

2328
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,320
in the next uh couple of months. So, um,

2329
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,840
in the short term, we still have to

2330
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,760
deliver the, uh, the, uh, recycle to the

2331
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,679
landfill, but within the next couple of

2332
01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:46,080
months, uh, that's going to be picked up

2333
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,360
by the province, and we're going to

2334
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,600
have, uh, garbage and blue box

2335
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,520
throughout the whole municipality, which

2336
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,679
is great news cuz it was looking like we

2337
01:23:53,679 --> 01:23:55,679
weren't going to have it until 2030 or

2338
01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:59,360
2031, but, uh, staff worked diligently

2339
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,360
with the province and the province moved

2340
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,360
forward on it. So, it's exciting news

2341
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,400
and uh I'm sure our residents will be

2342
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,360
extremely happy. We'll get blue box

2343
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,199
recycling and garbage right at the

2344
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:11,920
driveway.

2345
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:12,470
>> Excellent.

2346
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:12,480
» Excellent.

2347
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,709
>> Uh there'll be a a couple months

2348
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:14,719
» Uh there'll be a a couple months

2349
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:17,440
transition, but uh it will move forward.

2350
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:20,080
So, exciting news indeed.

2351
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,040
So, no other comments uh or statements

2352
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,960
from members. We'll move on to close

2353
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,520
session, none required. Uh resume open

2354
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,639
session, none required. Confirming bylaw

2355
01:24:30,639 --> 01:24:32,320
6025

2356
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,840
2025 that the council of the corporation

2357
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,679
of builder merful will forgive first,

2358
01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:37,760
second, third final reading to bylaw 60

2359
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,719
2025 being of bylaw to confirm the

2360
01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:42,800
proceedings of council for the regular

2361
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,880
meeting of December 22, 2025 and further

2362
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,560
that authorization be given to the mayor

2363
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,000
clerk of the science seal placed in the

2364
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,679
bylaw vote for the municipality bylaw

2365
01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:53,760
number 60 2025. May I have a mover

2366
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:54,800
please?

2367
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:55,430
>> A move.

2368
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:55,440
» A move.

2369
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:58,149
>> Thank you. Seconder, please. Second.

2370
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:58,159
» Thank you. Seconder, please. Second.

2371
01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,719
Call the vote. All in favor? Carried.

2372
01:25:00,719 --> 01:25:01,760
Thank you. We're going to move on to

2373
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:02,960
adjournment that the council of the

2374
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,320
cooperation of the village of Marit

2375
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,400
Wolfford.

2376
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,510
>> 7:24.

2377
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:07,520
» 7:24.

2378
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,910
>> 7:24 p.m. May I have a mover, please?

2379
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:11,920
» 7:24 p.m. May I have a mover, please?

2380
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,750
>> Thank you. Second, please. Second. Thank

2381
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:13,760
» Thank you. Second, please. Second. Thank

2382
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,159
you. Call the vote. All in favor, Terry.

2383
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:18,239
Thank you very much.

2384
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>> Merry Christmas, everybody. Hope

2385
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» Merry Christmas, everybody. Hope

2386
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,480
everybody has a wonderful Christmas

2387
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season. All the best to you and your

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family. Sand you

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>> I