1 00:00:19,470 --> 00:00:27,870 Thank you, Director Palmer. Welcome to the August 12th, 2026 meeting of the Northeast Illinois Regional 2 00:00:27,870 --> 00:00:32,190 Community Railroad Corporation Board of Directors meeting. 3 00:00:32,930 --> 00:00:39,090 We know that directors, back then and Rodman are not expected to join, and there are no other board members 4 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:43,270 joining virtually. Laura, if you would please call the roll. 5 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:53,610 Director Backton. Director Brown. Director Craig. Director Diaz. 6 00:00:53,850 --> 00:01:03,290 Director Gordon. Director Palmer. Director Rodman. Director Sager. 7 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:08,270 Director Shanahan. Vice Chair Ruffin. 8 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:08,630 President. 9 00:01:09,210 --> 00:01:10,410 Chair McMann. 10 00:01:11,610 --> 00:01:11,670 Chair. 11 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:12,270 We have a quorum. 12 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:13,470 Thank you. 13 00:01:13,650 --> 00:01:17,630 This morning, safety briefing will be given by Signalman Alan Flores. 14 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:21,470 He has seven years of service to Metro. 15 00:01:22,090 --> 00:01:26,090 I would also note that he is a veteran of the United States Marine Corps. 16 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:29,610 So thank you for your service and welcome. 17 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:33,930 Good morning, Metro Board members and staff. 18 00:01:34,430 --> 00:01:36,130 Thank you for the opportunity. 19 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:41,270 to present to you our safety brief and building evacuation procedures. 20 00:01:43,170 --> 00:01:50,230 We are in the 13 East board conference room located at 547 West Jackson Boulevard. 21 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:55,790 In the event we need to be that great building, please do the following. 22 00:01:56,850 --> 00:02:01,250 Please be mindful of potential tripping hazards as you exit the room. 23 00:02:02,270 --> 00:02:04,210 Please exit out the doors into the hallway. 24 00:02:05,470 --> 00:02:07,430 Please utilize handrails and watch your footing. 25 00:02:08,030 --> 00:02:15,190 And as you make way down to the stairs to the building, please, you will exit the building 26 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:19,530 and proceed to the Great Hall of Union Station where we will gather and wait for further 27 00:02:19,530 --> 00:02:20,130 instructions. 28 00:02:21,090 --> 00:02:24,850 Please take note of the person sitting next to you in assisting the ensuring everyone is accounted 29 00:02:24,850 --> 00:02:25,370 for. 30 00:02:26,650 --> 00:02:33,090 If you need assistance evacuating, the building, please notify Metro staff member or first 31 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:35,190 responder will assist you. 32 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:38,210 In the event of medical emergency immediately alert, 33 00:02:38,490 --> 00:02:42,330 a Metro staff member or the person sitting next to you, 34 00:02:45,380 --> 00:02:47,160 AEDs are located near the elevators. 35 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,680 I will be the pre-determined staff member 36 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,060 who will retrieve the AED if necessary. 37 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Metro staff are trained and certified and will 38 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,960 administer first aid until emergency responders arrive. 39 00:02:59,900 --> 00:03:01,200 In the event of an active shooter, 40 00:03:01,300 --> 00:03:04,180 we will be governed by Metro PDs, guidance and instructions. 41 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:06,420 Thank you. 42 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,620 Thank you. 43 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,780 I would ask everyone to please rise for the pledge of allegiance and ask that our Vice 44 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:20,820 Chair, Ruffin, Director Palmer, and Director Craig, lead us in the pledge this morning. 45 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:22,440 That's what I'm thinking here. 46 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,440 I want the 47 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,380 allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic 48 00:03:30,380 --> 00:03:37,240 for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all 49 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,800 all. 50 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:45,180 Thank you, Laura, do we have any public comments speakers this morning? 51 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:47,100 We have no public speakers. 52 00:03:47,380 --> 00:03:48,320 Thank you. 53 00:03:48,580 --> 00:03:53,180 With that, we'll move to the approval of the minutes from the July 16th, 54 00:03:53,460 --> 00:03:56,100 2026 meeting of the Board of Directors. 55 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,620 Are there any comments, deletions, or corrections? 56 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:03,080 Hearing none, seeing none, is there a motion to approve? 57 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,980 No, sir. 58 00:04:05,460 --> 00:04:06,920 Well, if you would call the roll, please. 59 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:09,040 Director Brown. 60 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,520 The same director Craig. 61 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:17,620 Director Diaz. 62 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,840 Director Gordon. 63 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Director Palmer. 64 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,720 Director Sager. 65 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,740 Director Shanahan. 66 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,120 Vice chair Ruffin. 67 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Yes. 68 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:35,160 Chair McMahon. 69 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:36,300 Yes. 70 00:04:37,260 --> 00:04:40,380 We have eight eyes and one abstention in the motion passes. 71 00:04:40,380 --> 00:04:49,000 Thank you. Next, are the approval of the July 16th, 2020, and IRCRC closed session meeting 72 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:56,200 minutes. Are there any comments, deletions, or corrections to the July 16th, 26, 20, 20, 73 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 six, sorry. Close session minutes. 74 00:05:00,690 --> 00:05:06,870 Hearing none, seeing none, is there a motion to approve? Sir, second, second, Laura, if you would call the roll. 75 00:05:07,630 --> 00:05:08,710 Director Brown. 76 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:20,620 Director Craig. Director Diaz. Director Gordon. Yes. Director Palmer. Yes. 77 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:29,020 Director Sager. Yes. Director Shanahan. Yes. Vice chair Ruffin. Yes. 78 00:05:29,020 --> 00:05:34,980 Chair McMan. Yes. We have eight eyes, one abstention in the motion passes. 79 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,640 Great. Thank you. Laura, if you would read the consent agenda into the record, please. 80 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:49,960 A. Summary of consent agenda, capital payments from July 16, 2021, through August 11, 2021. 81 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:59,280 A1, contract for NEPA Environmental Assessment and Services for Bridge Replacement and Rehabilitation. 82 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:03,780 A2, contract for Continuous Welded Rail. 83 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:13,680 B, summary of consent agenda operating procurement from July 16, 2021 through August 11, 2021. 84 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:22,520 A1, change order for my telephone system hardware, licenses, and annual support, A2, change 85 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:29,200 order for switch machines, A3, change order for annual software, equipment, and educational 86 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,340 support services. 87 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:35,440 C, technical ordinance, consent agenda has been read into the record. 88 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:36,320 Thank you, Laura. 89 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,080 I am going to pull C, the technical ordinance off of the consent agenda, and we'll address 90 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:48,780 that after we address A and B, are there other items on the consent agenda that other board 91 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:51,220 members would like to pull from the consent agenda? 92 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:55,590 Seeing none hearing none with that, 93 00:06:55,590 --> 00:07:03,970 is there a motion to approve the consent agenda A, 1 and 2 and B, 1, 2 and 3? Is there a 94 00:07:03,970 --> 00:07:09,350 motion to approve? Second? Second. There's a motion and a second, Laura, if you would call 95 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:12,590 roll on that motion please. Director Brown. 96 00:07:15,940 --> 00:07:21,120 Director Craig. Director Diaz. Director Gordon. 97 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:29,220 Director Palmer. Director Sager. Director Shanahan. 98 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:37,600 Vice Chair Ruffin. Yes. Chair McMahon. Yes. We have nine eyes and the motion passes. 99 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,140 Now, I'd ask for a motion to approve the technical ordinance. 100 00:07:45,210 --> 00:07:46,330 Is there a second? 101 00:07:47,690 --> 00:07:49,110 There's a motion in a second. 102 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:54,410 I'm going to open it up for discussion, but before I open it up for discussion, I would ask. 103 00:07:54,450 --> 00:08:00,570 William Benz to give some background on the timing, just an overall summary of this. 104 00:08:00,590 --> 00:08:02,750 And then I'll open it up to questions and comments. 105 00:08:03,410 --> 00:08:19,170 And summary, the law department is recommending this tactical ordinance to be passed, it is going to help the board moving forward to kind of clean up past ordinances that are should have been rescinded previously that are outdated and that are no longer in effect. 106 00:08:19,930 --> 00:08:25,810 We are not looking to make any impact beyond kind of clearing up matters that should have been addressed previously. 107 00:08:26,530 --> 00:08:33,850 And so my recollection is that the board created a subcommittee director, Beckton, and 108 00:08:33,850 --> 00:08:39,590 director Rodman worked on that committee, worked with staff to identify ordinances that 109 00:08:39,590 --> 00:08:45,210 are either superseded by state or federal law or no longer active because they addressed 110 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:54,910 a pilot program and the ideas to really consolidate our ordinances for the new board coming 111 00:08:54,910 --> 00:08:57,710 And is that accurate summary correct? 112 00:08:59,630 --> 00:09:02,170 With that, I'll open it up to any questions from other board members. 113 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:03,310 Director Craig. 114 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:04,810 Yes, thank you. 115 00:09:05,870 --> 00:09:10,970 So one of the more recent ordinances, if you will, 116 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:15,210 was an updated direct metric to develop a veterans preference 117 00:09:15,210 --> 00:09:18,070 program to enhance recruitment and employment 118 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:18,750 of veterans. 119 00:09:19,390 --> 00:09:21,990 These matters are governed through corporate employment 120 00:09:21,990 --> 00:09:24,150 policies and administrative practices. 121 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:37,010 I know my own community has been for six years recognized by the Department of Labor for hiring of veterans and we're one of two communities in the state. 122 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:46,690 Metro is also within that direction with the leadership of Jim Dubinsky and others, especially this board. 123 00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:52,250 and so to acknowledge that and to reaffirm our recognition for the veterans in a certain 124 00:09:52,250 --> 00:09:52,830 country. 125 00:09:53,330 --> 00:09:59,970 And the many veterans that work for Metro in particular, we know when you hire a veteran. 126 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,940 They come to work. They're almost instantaneous leaders. They come to work on time. They provide leadership within their own units. 127 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:13,760 So, there's a lot of value there. And I would emphasize, I'd hate to see that lost in this transition. 128 00:10:14,660 --> 00:10:25,220 And so, maybe you give me a little background in hope for the future of Metro and its observance of honorary veterans in our communities. Thank you. 129 00:10:25,220 --> 00:10:29,580 And I don't think there's any desire to move away from the progress that Metro has made from that. 130 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,280 I think the veterans are valuable asset to our agency and the operations folks can speak to that. 131 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:44,760 You know, this will give us a loud flexibility moving forward by having it through our policies versus, you know, through an ordinance. 132 00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:48,240 And it'll also make us consistent with what our sister agencies do. 133 00:10:48,420 --> 00:10:52,740 For example, CTA doesn't have an ordinance establishing their veterans' preference program. 134 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:56,620 through an executive director order by their executive director. 135 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,760 So we're trying to line up our policies and procedures 136 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,460 consistent with our sister agencies, moving forward, 137 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,960 and allowing us additional flexibility to kind of change 138 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,520 and expand the program as needed. 139 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,520 Jim, do you, sorry, but do you want to expand on that? 140 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,620 Because I don't, there's no intent to try to pull back 141 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:21,060 from the commitment that Metro and our executive leadership team 142 00:11:21,060 --> 00:11:29,800 has to recruit, retain, bring on veterans of the armed forces. 143 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:43,480 But my understanding of this, that section of the ordinance, why that's included is that that allows staff greater flexibility to try to expand that program without having to go through the formalities of an ordinance. 144 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,720 So I wanted to be clear, there is no desire to pull back from 145 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:54,520 mattress commitment to the veteran community, but Jim, maybe you can 146 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:55,840 expand on that a little bit. 147 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,080 I think you did it perfectly, Chair. 148 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,580 Yeah, we have no desire to pull back on that matter of fact. 149 00:12:01,820 --> 00:12:03,780 We'd still like to see that expanded. 150 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:10,740 The results says, Skip said, Mr. Menz, said, are so true. 151 00:12:10,740 --> 00:12:16,480 And when we do get those veterans in here, they tend to be career oriented, have the skillsets 152 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,800 already, the work ethics, and it's been really beneficial for us with no desire to pull back 153 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,320 matter of fact. 154 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:30,040 We look to actually try to expand as we move forward with the new board, Nita, and the region. 155 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:34,060 Other questions? 156 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,420 Director Gordon. 157 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:36,840 Yeah, good morning. 158 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Just a comment. 159 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,100 I think like so many I had questions about this and when I saw things being pulled or 160 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:46,660 or any oversight or whatever, I did have direct conversations with a lot of private just to make 161 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:51,260 sure that everything is being replaced or covered somewhere else and nothing is. 162 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:55,300 We're not losing any oversight, any authority is a board and so I just wanted to comment 163 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:57,080 on that and make that comment for people to benefit. 164 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,940 Thank you for the work and thank you for the board members that were the directors that 165 00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:02,620 were involved in that process too. 166 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:04,940 Director Sager. 167 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:06,100 Thanks, Chair. 168 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,020 As a new member to the board, I want to just educate the time and incredibly impressed 169 00:13:11,020 --> 00:13:18,660 by the fact that the work was done and done very thoroughly to ensure that one we are 170 00:13:18,660 --> 00:13:23,660 continue to be covered covering the areas of import in terms of philosophy and approach, 171 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:28,760 but at the same time we're kind of cleaning things up if you will and so that we don't 172 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:35,540 have quite so much redundancy and we make sure that we are in exact concurrence with 173 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:39,460 the state laws or the policies of the body itself. 174 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,900 So I'm very impressed. 175 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:42,740 I just want to comment and say, thank you. 176 00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:45,780 I had a great honor to speak with Mr. Benz quite a bit 177 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,360 about this to familiarize myself with the approaches 178 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,140 being taken in and I was pleased with the responses. 179 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,260 And I think that this a good new place 180 00:13:58,260 --> 00:14:02,240 is starts under the new structure and the new organization 181 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,500 effort that is being made by the state. 182 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,920 So I want to thank you all and appreciate this. 183 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:07,960 And I'll be supporting this. 184 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:08,700 Thank you. 185 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:10,180 Thank you. 186 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Director Diaz. 187 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:17,100 For veteran recruitment specifically, what is the policy 188 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:19,740 that supersedes removing this resolution? 189 00:14:25,090 --> 00:14:25,890 Good morning. 190 00:14:26,830 --> 00:14:30,110 We basically memorialize the ordinance into a policy. 191 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:35,430 We've also hired specific veterans as talent recruiters 192 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:37,830 that actually go around the country to various 193 00:14:39,270 --> 00:14:47,610 locations and in terms of updating our various policies in terms of our job descriptions 194 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:51,910 and things of that nature that we look at trying to hire veterans and give them some 195 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:56,530 preference in terms of the large selection pool. So for example, we have a pool of like 300 196 00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:59,970 people and we feel that to other 197 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:14,100 There's a good pool of a certain number of veterans. We will say, we will hire X number of veterans first, and then go to the larger pool. So, this is all put in the policy that basically has memorialized the ordinance. 198 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:23,500 And so, currently, there is a board directive to metro leadership to emphasize recruitment and retention of veterans. 199 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:34,120 If this resolution expires, let's say 15, 20 years from now we have a different CEO, maybe they don't prioritize better in recruitment and support. 200 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:38,860 They would then have the ability to move Metro away from that policy. 201 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,820 The board always, at any time, can provide direction. 202 00:15:44,140 --> 00:15:48,460 So just because you pull it back this way, there should still be dialogue going back and forth. 203 00:15:48,460 --> 00:15:49,780 there should be some oversight. 204 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,000 And we believe that staff and the board really works well 205 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,480 in this area in other areas. 206 00:15:55,940 --> 00:15:57,740 And at some point there could be a different direction. 207 00:15:58,620 --> 00:15:59,900 So it should not be stagnant. 208 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,900 Well, you know, my preference is that that directive 209 00:16:05,900 --> 00:16:10,620 remain and also around DBE goals. 210 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,960 And so for me, I will be a no vote. 211 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Any other questions, Director Brown? 212 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:30,940 I agree with the comments that were made by my colleagues on the reason and the need to update 213 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:33,200 the ordinance that we're putting in. 214 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:40,800 What I am objecting to is that staff is asking this board to rush through this 166 page document 215 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:48,040 and make a decision that was just given to me on Friday to make this decision on Wednesday 216 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:55,060 a reading the Sunday to six page document to ensure that what you're saying is accurate 217 00:16:55,060 --> 00:16:59,060 and without asking really a lot of questions and two. 218 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:07,160 So I'm opposed to the timing of it as well as I don't know if this is going to cause 219 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:14,660 us down the road additional work in as much as NIDA, the new NIDA board is going to be sitting 220 00:17:14,660 --> 00:17:20,420 in another two weeks and we have not received any real direction from that board 221 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:30,500 pit on if ordinance for all three agencies will be in collaboration to mirror each other and 222 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:35,440 we don't I don't know what CTAs ordinance are or Paces or Desire it's related to some of the 223 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:42,760 ordinance we're doing so I just I'm opposed to it right now because of the time of the time 224 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:48,880 I mean, not because of the necessity to update or delete them, but the time and I think it's just bad. 225 00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:55,060 Any other comments or, so Dr. Shannon? 226 00:17:56,780 --> 00:18:01,440 I actually would echo Dr. Brown's comments. 227 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:09,320 If we don't know what the whole scope of what net is going to want us to do, I think it seems like we could get ourselves into some sort of trouble and we could be on the same page. 228 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:15,000 I think waiting will not be a big deal, and the timing can not be right for this. 229 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Just want to be open there. 230 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:27,250 So, Director Paul, I think everybody's comments are well received and although I think 231 00:18:27,250 --> 00:18:32,330 the spirit of this sort of events is probably the right direction to go being the last 232 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:38,430 meeting for some of us, and I don't want to pass on something to a group that needs a little 233 00:18:38,430 --> 00:18:43,730 time to look at this and I do think some of these ordinances were there for a good reason 234 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:49,310 and some of it was not just on the veteran side, but protection of things that we learned 235 00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:56,770 that other boards in the past had not necessarily done on the right direction and so there 236 00:18:56,770 --> 00:18:58,930 were some protections put in place and things like that. 237 00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:03,450 So I think there's something that they should be able to review and do so I would make a motion 238 00:19:03,450 --> 00:19:03,870 to table. 239 00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:04,750 That's at this time. 240 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:10,690 Okay, there is a motion in a second. There's now a motion to table. Is there a second on the motion to table? 241 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:15,170 Second. There's a motion in a second. A motion to table is not available. 242 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:18,030 Lower call the roll on the motion to table. 243 00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:22,070 Director Brown. 244 00:19:22,570 --> 00:19:22,690 Aye. 245 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:25,210 Director Craig. 246 00:19:25,410 --> 00:19:25,650 Aye. 247 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:27,390 Director Diaz. 248 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:29,090 Director Gordon. 249 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:31,010 Aye. 250 00:19:31,810 --> 00:19:32,590 Director Palmer. 251 00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:33,130 Aye. 252 00:19:34,330 --> 00:19:35,170 Director Sagar. 253 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:39,270 Yes. Director Shanahan. 254 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:42,070 Vice chair Ruffin. 255 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:42,370 Hi. 256 00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:43,870 Chair McMahon. 257 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:45,950 Hi. 258 00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:48,430 We have nine eyes in the motion passes. 259 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:49,850 So that is table. 260 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:52,190 Excuse me, Chair. 261 00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:52,970 Point of order. 262 00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:53,410 Yes. 263 00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:56,010 I know the motion was too table, 264 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:58,230 but the intent here was to post pound. 265 00:19:59,090 --> 00:19:59,370 Correct. 266 00:19:59,370 --> 00:19:59,970 on to... 267 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:09,660 So a future date and not particularly to table, because we will be revisiting this and are you expecting 268 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:15,540 since it was table, are you expecting a motion to remove it from the table then in a future 269 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:21,980 time or was the intent and is a friendly effort here to say that we were postponing this? 270 00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:31,920 So, the motion to table, I think we'll then place the agenda on the next agenda for our September meeting. 271 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,240 I would ask our legal counsel to weigh in on that, 272 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:42,600 but the answer to your question was to table from today to the next schedule meeting, 273 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,780 so I think it will be on the next. 274 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:47,340 So the intent really is to postpone to time-specific, correct? 275 00:20:47,340 --> 00:20:53,500 correct. The motion table actually could be the next board meeting or our subsequent meeting. 276 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,320 So it will be up to the board at the next meeting to whether it wants to move forward 277 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,860 for the September board meeting. So it's not automatically on this September agenda. 278 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:10,100 So do we need a motion to place it on the agenda for the September board meeting now? 279 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:14,540 Yes. So I would ask for that motion. So is there a second? 280 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:21,440 The motion in a second to place the consideration of the technical ordinance on our next 281 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,460 scheduled board meeting, the motion in a second, is there any discussion on that? 282 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 I don't know if this is where I make the issue. 283 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,400 I think if we're going to table a postponement, it should not be at the September board meeting. 284 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:43,080 And as much as we're going to have seven new board members come on board in September, 285 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,460 that would not have had an opportunity to hear any discussion prior to voting. 286 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:57,020 They would just get the agenda and board material to review, but no real live discussion 287 00:21:57,020 --> 00:22:02,020 of the decarling skip, which might suffice for some, but not the majority. 288 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:06,420 I don't know, because I don't know the individuals that will to speak on their behalf. 289 00:22:06,980 --> 00:22:11,520 So I would suggest that if we were going to postpone it, that it doesn't come up as early 290 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,580 September, we just postponed it for a later future board meeting at some point for vote. 291 00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:18,560 They would be too. 292 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,700 So, whether that's November, December, or, you know, it just seems that September is 293 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:29,460 a rush because of the new members that are coming on board and affording them opportunity 294 00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:30,320 to review. 295 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:35,100 So, there's a motion and a second to place it on the September agenda. 296 00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:40,640 My, I thought, and I understand there's going to be a lot to address it that 297 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:47,180 board meeting with seven six new board members, six new board members at our September meeting. 298 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,100 I'd like to put it on the agenda if there's a desire of the new board members to 299 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:59,320 further table the technical ordinance. Let's address that at the September meeting. 300 00:23:00,020 --> 00:23:05,480 But that way this item remains on an agenda and if we want to extend it beyond September 301 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:12,940 to give new board members a chance to meet with staff, to examine this in more detail. 302 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,020 I would note that this has been an effort that has been initiated. 303 00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:24,120 I think about a year and a half ago, there's been, as you can see by the packet, there's 304 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:25,700 a lot of work that went into this. 305 00:23:25,780 --> 00:23:32,060 There are a lot of ordinances that are being considered many of these are historical, some 306 00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:35,040 them in both pilot programs that are no longer in existence. 307 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,440 So my desire is to keep it on the September agenda and to your point direct to Brown, if 308 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:46,820 there's a desire to move it into October or November, let's revisit that with the new board. 309 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:57,580 Any other discussion on the motion to place the technical ordinance on the September agenda? 310 00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:02,160 Seeing none hearing none more if you would call the roll. 311 00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:04,250 Director Brown. 312 00:24:06,050 --> 00:24:07,230 Director Craig. 313 00:24:09,170 --> 00:24:10,070 Director Diaz. 314 00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:11,290 Director Gordon. 315 00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:13,430 Director Palmer. 316 00:24:14,550 --> 00:24:15,530 Director Saager. 317 00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:17,730 Director Shanahan. 318 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:19,730 Vice chair Reffen. 319 00:24:19,810 --> 00:24:20,150 Yes. 320 00:24:20,670 --> 00:24:21,270 Chair McMahon. 321 00:24:21,870 --> 00:24:22,110 Yes. 322 00:24:22,410 --> 00:24:24,070 We have nine eyes in the motion passes. 323 00:24:24,530 --> 00:24:25,490 Thank you. 324 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:29,120 Is there any new or old business 325 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,960 that any member would like to raise or discuss this morning. 326 00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:38,580 Seeing none, hearing none, is there a motion to adjourn? 327 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:40,740 So, leave by prior role. 328 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,300 Leave. 329 00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:42,140 Leave.