1 00:00:22,556 --> 00:00:24,570 Good morning. We will go ahead and 2 00:00:24,570 --> 00:00:26,570 call the 3 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,620 audit and finance committee meeting 4 00:00:29,620 --> 00:00:30,630 for friday, march 14, 2025 to order 5 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:32,630 at 9:45 -- 6 00:00:33,660 --> 00:00:35,660 9:45 a.m. 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,690 may we please have a safety briefing. 8 00:00:36,690 --> 00:00:39,690 this will be done by 9 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:46,790 system safety. 10 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:47,800 >> 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,810 good morning. We are at one gateway 12 00:00:48,810 --> 00:00:49,820 plaza at the l.a. Metro board room 13 00:00:49,820 --> 00:00:50,830 on 14 00:00:50,830 --> 00:00:51,840 the third floor. If we do need to 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,860 evacuate the room here, we will effectively 16 00:00:53,860 --> 00:00:54,870 out to my left. We will go down the 17 00:00:54,870 --> 00:00:56,890 escalators and meet out 18 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:57,900 at the metro customer service area. 19 00:00:57,900 --> 00:00:59,490 for accident --exiting the 20 00:01:00,930 --> 00:01:03,693 room, make sure you are aware 21 00:01:20,470 --> 00:01:21,480 of the tripping hazards, chairs, backpacks, 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,490 things of that nature. In the event 23 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:23,500 of 24 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:24,510 an earthquake, we will huddle under 25 00:01:24,510 --> 00:01:25,520 the tables until the shaking stopped 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,530 to do an 27 00:01:26,530 --> 00:01:27,540 assessment to see if we need to evacuate. 28 00:01:27,540 --> 00:01:29,560 in the event of a first-day situation, 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,570 there is an aed across from the security 30 00:01:30,570 --> 00:01:32,590 desk. We have first responders in 31 00:01:32,590 --> 00:01:33,600 the room from internet county --san 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,610 benito county. In the event of an 33 00:01:34,610 --> 00:01:35,620 active 34 00:01:35,620 --> 00:01:36,630 attacker, run, hide and fight. 20th 35 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:37,640 online, make sure you're familiar 36 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,650 with your surroundings. Make 37 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:39,660 sure you're familiar with your place of 38 00:01:39,660 --> 00:01:41,680 safety and exit route. That concludes 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,690 my briefing. 40 00:01:42,690 --> 00:01:43,700 >> thank you very much. 41 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:44,710 with that, we are going to 42 00:01:44,710 --> 00:01:45,720 move to the pledge of allegiance. 43 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,720 >> 44 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,760 [ inaudible ] 45 00:01:52,790 --> 00:01:54,790 >> 46 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:08,295 thank you very much. And now, 47 00:02:08,295 --> 00:02:09,296 madame secretary, roll call. 48 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:11,296 >> [ 49 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:13,298 roll call ] 50 00:02:35,222 --> 00:02:36,223 we do have a quorum present. 51 00:02:36,223 --> 00:02:37,224 >> very 52 00:02:37,224 --> 00:02:38,225 good. Do we have any public 53 00:02:38,225 --> 00:02:39,693 comments today? 54 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:40,694 >> I have not received 55 00:02:40,694 --> 00:02:41,695 any request to 56 00:02:41,695 --> 00:02:43,897 speak or any written comment. 57 00:02:43,897 --> 00:02:44,898 >> okay. 58 00:02:44,898 --> 00:02:46,900 we get to move 59 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:47,901 to item , 60 00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:49,903 approval of the minutes from february 61 00:02:49,903 --> 00:02:51,903 14, 2025. 62 00:02:51,905 --> 00:02:52,906 any of my colleagues have any request 63 00:02:52,906 --> 00:02:54,906 to modify 64 00:02:55,909 --> 00:02:58,912 or make any comments about it? 65 00:02:58,912 --> 00:03:01,915 if not, do we have a motion 66 00:03:01,915 --> 00:03:02,916 to approve ? 67 00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:04,916 >> I move for 68 00:03:04,918 --> 00:03:05,919 approval. 69 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,855 >> 70 00:03:07,855 --> 00:03:10,855 approval by chaffee. Must be 71 00:03:10,858 --> 00:03:11,859 a separate county. Yeah. 72 00:03:11,859 --> 00:03:13,859 >> dutrey 73 00:03:13,861 --> 00:03:14,862 seconds . 74 00:03:14,862 --> 00:03:15,863 >> that 75 00:03:15,863 --> 00:03:19,867 sounds great. Thank you. Roll call please. 76 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:21,867 >> [ roll call ] 77 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:32,880 motion carried unanimously. 78 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,880 >> 79 00:03:34,882 --> 00:03:36,884 excellent. Next will be 80 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:37,885 fiscal year 2025 midyear operating 81 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:39,885 budget review amendment 82 00:03:40,888 --> 00:03:43,288 presented by christine wilson, 83 00:03:43,891 --> 00:03:46,291 assistant director of finance. 84 00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:48,896 a very lovely hat and outfit for 85 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:49,897 st. Pattie's day. 86 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:52,297 >> thank you. Good morning, 87 00:03:54,902 --> 00:03:55,903 chairman and members of the committee. I'm 88 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:57,903 assistant director of 89 00:03:57,905 --> 00:03:58,906 finance presenting item number 6b, 90 00:03:58,906 --> 00:04:00,906 the 91 00:04:00,908 --> 00:04:04,508 fy 25 midyear operating budget review amendment. 92 00:04:07,915 --> 00:04:09,915 it is a 93 00:04:09,917 --> 00:04:13,921 practice of metrolink to perform a review 94 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:15,923 of the annual budget at midyear to 95 00:04:15,923 --> 00:04:16,924 identify any revisions that may be needed 96 00:04:16,924 --> 00:04:18,924 to the 97 00:04:18,926 --> 00:04:22,930 operating budget as a result of changed circumstances. 98 00:04:22,930 --> 00:04:24,930 our review indicates 99 00:04:24,932 --> 00:04:29,132 that an amendment is required this year. 100 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:37,945 the amendment we are presenting is 101 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:38,946 driven by the following. Changes to 102 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:40,948 ridership, changes to the service 103 00:04:40,948 --> 00:04:41,949 schedule, a change to the cost of 104 00:04:41,949 --> 00:04:42,950 mobilization, and 105 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:43,951 a member agency request. This slide 106 00:04:43,951 --> 00:04:45,953 shows the details of the amendment 107 00:04:45,953 --> 00:04:46,954 staff is recommending for adoption 108 00:04:46,954 --> 00:04:49,354 by the member agencies. 109 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,961 the box at the top of the 110 00:04:53,961 --> 00:04:55,963 screen shows the budget as it currently 111 00:04:55,963 --> 00:04:57,963 exists. Revenue of 112 00:04:58,966 --> 00:05:00,966 68 million, expensive 332 million, 113 00:05:01,969 --> 00:05:03,969 and support of 264 114 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:07,908 million. In the next box 115 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:08,909 we see the 116 00:05:08,909 --> 00:05:10,911 amendments. The revenue adjustments 117 00:05:10,911 --> 00:05:11,912 consist of a reduction of the revenue 118 00:05:11,912 --> 00:05:13,912 based on 119 00:05:13,914 --> 00:05:16,914 a re-forecast of the revenue 120 00:05:22,923 --> 00:05:23,924 by capital kpmg. Because the lc top 121 00:05:23,924 --> 00:05:24,925 funding 122 00:05:24,925 --> 00:05:25,926 was not confirmed at the time we did 123 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:26,927 the budget, the original budget forecasted 124 00:05:26,927 --> 00:05:28,927 student 125 00:05:28,929 --> 00:05:31,329 ridership in the numbers 126 00:05:31,932 --> 00:05:32,933 as a 127 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:33,934 25% discount. This re-forecast to 128 00:05:33,934 --> 00:05:34,935 takes into account that students ride 129 00:05:34,935 --> 00:05:36,935 free. 130 00:05:37,938 --> 00:05:38,939 in addition to 131 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:40,941 the most current changes in ridership, 132 00:05:40,941 --> 00:05:43,341 this reduced revenue by 133 00:05:46,947 --> 00:05:47,948 7.9 million. The second change 134 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:49,950 that the revenue is to include the 135 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:52,950 student adventure pass pilot budget 136 00:05:52,953 --> 00:05:54,955 . Once again, because we were unsure 137 00:05:54,955 --> 00:05:55,956 of funding, it was not included in 138 00:05:55,956 --> 00:05:56,957 the budget. Including the student 139 00:05:56,957 --> 00:05:58,957 adventure 140 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:01,359 pass funding , it adds 141 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:04,963 6.3,000,002 revenue that produces 142 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:07,901 a net revenue change of 143 00:06:07,901 --> 00:06:09,903 1.6 million. The next amendments relate 144 00:06:09,903 --> 00:06:10,904 to expense. First we have the removal 145 00:06:10,904 --> 00:06:12,904 of four 146 00:06:14,908 --> 00:06:16,910 42 laguna trades originally included 147 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:18,910 in the optimized 148 00:06:19,913 --> 00:06:20,914 service budget. Next, another in just 149 00:06:20,914 --> 00:06:22,914 a 150 00:06:22,916 --> 00:06:25,916 moment --adjustment is the removal 151 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:27,919 of 20 laus 152 00:06:27,921 --> 00:06:28,922 to convene a trains replaced by the 153 00:06:28,922 --> 00:06:30,922 addition of 10 154 00:06:31,925 --> 00:06:33,927 laus to montclair trains. 155 00:06:33,927 --> 00:06:38,727 you also see here at the request of 156 00:06:40,934 --> 00:06:41,935 sp cta, the 157 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:43,937 addition of cause for san bernardino 158 00:06:43,937 --> 00:06:46,937 sharers added to san bernardino 159 00:06:49,943 --> 00:06:51,945 county. This is funded in 160 00:06:51,945 --> 00:06:52,946 its entirety by sp cta. Finally, the 161 00:06:52,946 --> 00:06:55,946 negotiation of the mini bundle 162 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:57,949 has 163 00:06:57,951 --> 00:06:59,953 reduced the original estimate budgeted 164 00:06:59,953 --> 00:07:02,353 for mobilization by 2.5 million 165 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,895 . All these amounts create, in that, 166 00:07:07,895 --> 00:07:11,495 a reduction to member agency required 167 00:07:11,899 --> 00:07:13,899 support by $896,000. 168 00:07:14,902 --> 00:07:15,903 the boxes 169 00:07:15,903 --> 00:07:17,905 at the bottom of the slide show the 170 00:07:17,905 --> 00:07:18,906 amounts of the fy 25 budget if 171 00:07:18,906 --> 00:07:21,906 this recommended amendment is excepted. 172 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:32,920 all the following slides show the 173 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,921 proposed amended budget by category 174 00:07:33,921 --> 00:07:35,923 and member agency, including changes 175 00:07:35,923 --> 00:07:37,923 to the individual 176 00:07:38,926 --> 00:07:41,926 lines in the operating budget. 177 00:07:44,932 --> 00:07:46,932 you see here 178 00:07:46,934 --> 00:07:51,134 the individual items that have been changed. 179 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:53,941 at the bottom, as I said, it creates 180 00:07:53,941 --> 00:07:54,942 a 181 00:07:54,942 --> 00:07:56,944 reduction to the amount we are asking 182 00:07:56,944 --> 00:07:59,344 for member agencies by 183 00:08:00,948 --> 00:08:02,950 $896,000. That concludes my report. 184 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:03,951 can I answer any questions? 185 00:08:03,951 --> 00:08:04,952 >> 186 00:08:04,952 --> 00:08:05,953 thank you very much for the report. 187 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:08,889 attorney to my colleagues here. 188 00:08:08,889 --> 00:08:11,889 and online. A quiet bunch 189 00:08:11,892 --> 00:08:13,892 again. Linda 190 00:08:13,894 --> 00:08:14,895 . 191 00:08:14,895 --> 00:08:17,898 >> thank you for your great explanation 192 00:08:17,898 --> 00:08:18,899 of the numbers. 193 00:08:18,899 --> 00:08:20,899 >> thank you. >> 194 00:08:21,902 --> 00:08:22,903 everybody knows what the numbers are, 195 00:08:22,903 --> 00:08:23,904 but you explained them so clearly. 196 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:24,905 thank you 197 00:08:24,905 --> 00:08:25,906 for that. 198 00:08:25,906 --> 00:08:26,907 >> thank you. >> all right. 199 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:28,907 with that, 200 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:30,911 this is actually an action item. 201 00:08:30,911 --> 00:08:32,913 we need to first asked for public 202 00:08:32,913 --> 00:08:33,914 comments. 203 00:08:33,914 --> 00:08:35,914 >> mr. Chairman, 204 00:08:36,917 --> 00:08:38,919 john dutrey. I have a couple of questions. 205 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,319 on the sharers contract 206 00:08:41,922 --> 00:08:43,922 , obviously, sbcta is 207 00:08:46,927 --> 00:08:47,928 covering that cost. Is that also in 208 00:08:47,928 --> 00:08:48,929 the budget? 209 00:08:48,929 --> 00:08:50,929 >> yes, that 210 00:08:50,931 --> 00:08:52,931 it started 211 00:08:53,934 --> 00:08:54,935 --added to 212 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:55,936 the budget by this amendment. 213 00:08:55,936 --> 00:08:56,937 >> all 214 00:08:56,937 --> 00:08:57,938 right, them. I move for approval. 215 00:08:57,938 --> 00:08:59,938 >> 216 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:03,540 okay. We do have a motion. 217 00:09:04,945 --> 00:09:05,946 before we do that, do we have any 218 00:09:05,946 --> 00:09:06,947 public comments? 219 00:09:06,947 --> 00:09:07,881 >> I have 220 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:08,882 not received any written public comment 221 00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:09,883 or request to speak on this item. 222 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:10,884 >> okay. 223 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:11,885 emotion on the floor to approve. Do 224 00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:14,888 we have a second? We have a second. 225 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:16,888 different county. [ laughter ] 226 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:17,891 roll call, please. 227 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:18,892 >> [ roll call 228 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:20,892 ] 229 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:35,909 motion carried unanimously. 230 00:09:35,909 --> 00:09:37,909 >> very good. 231 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,912 item one to 232 00:09:41,915 --> 00:09:44,315 six see -- 6c. 233 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:46,918 performance audit 234 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:48,922 , deactivation of badges for employees, 235 00:09:48,922 --> 00:09:50,922 board 236 00:09:50,924 --> 00:09:52,924 members, and idts. 237 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:01,935 presented by the director of the audit 238 00:10:01,935 --> 00:10:02,936 department. 239 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:03,937 >> good morning, chairman 240 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:04,938 and committee 241 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:05,939 members. Internal audit completed 242 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:06,940 the deactivation the badges for employees, 243 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:07,875 board members and 244 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:08,876 integrated digital and technology 245 00:10:08,876 --> 00:10:09,877 services, also 246 00:10:09,877 --> 00:10:11,879 known as idts, contractors. The audit 247 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:12,880 is included in the fiscal 25 board 248 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,881 approved 249 00:10:13,881 --> 00:10:15,883 audit plan. The objective was to evaluate 250 00:10:15,883 --> 00:10:17,885 the effectiveness of the agency's 251 00:10:17,885 --> 00:10:19,885 badge deactivation process 252 00:10:20,888 --> 00:10:23,891 for secure access control for employees, 253 00:10:23,891 --> 00:10:24,892 board members and idts contractors. 254 00:10:24,892 --> 00:10:26,892 the audit 255 00:10:26,894 --> 00:10:29,294 period was january 2023 through 256 00:10:35,903 --> 00:10:36,904 july 2024. There are three findings 257 00:10:36,904 --> 00:10:37,905 and 258 00:10:37,905 --> 00:10:38,906 three audit recommendations. Management 259 00:10:38,906 --> 00:10:41,909 agreed with the findings and developed actions. 260 00:10:41,909 --> 00:10:42,910 audit will 261 00:10:42,910 --> 00:10:43,911 track the status of the corrective 262 00:10:43,911 --> 00:10:44,912 actions. This concludes my item. Happy 263 00:10:44,912 --> 00:10:46,912 to answer any 264 00:10:47,915 --> 00:10:48,916 questions. 265 00:10:48,916 --> 00:10:49,917 >> for such a long stretch 266 00:10:49,917 --> 00:10:50,918 of 267 00:10:50,918 --> 00:10:51,919 time to deal with this, that was a 268 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:53,921 quick report. I will open it 269 00:10:53,921 --> 00:10:56,924 up to questions. I don't have 270 00:10:56,924 --> 00:10:58,924 any questions. 271 00:11:02,930 --> 00:11:04,930 any public 272 00:11:04,932 --> 00:11:05,933 comments? 273 00:11:05,933 --> 00:11:06,934 >> I have not received any 274 00:11:06,934 --> 00:11:07,868 written public comments or requests 275 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:08,869 to speak on 276 00:11:08,869 --> 00:11:09,870 this item. 277 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:10,871 >> okay. So then, I will 278 00:11:10,871 --> 00:11:11,872 make a few comments. I asked 279 00:11:11,872 --> 00:11:12,873 for this item to come to the audit 280 00:11:12,873 --> 00:11:14,875 committee some time ago for the mere 281 00:11:14,875 --> 00:11:16,875 fact that 282 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:22,883 my badge was supposedly expired 283 00:11:22,883 --> 00:11:23,884 in the year 2020, and it was 2022 284 00:11:23,884 --> 00:11:25,886 or 2023 and still working just fine. 285 00:11:25,886 --> 00:11:26,887 I thought, at the time, there was 286 00:11:26,887 --> 00:11:29,887 a lot of disgruntled ex-employees 287 00:11:32,893 --> 00:11:33,894 using things like old keys or badges 288 00:11:33,894 --> 00:11:35,894 to 289 00:11:35,896 --> 00:11:37,896 get into 290 00:11:41,902 --> 00:11:42,903 other 291 00:11:42,903 --> 00:11:44,905 facilities. Not metrolink, but just, in 292 00:11:44,905 --> 00:11:45,906 general, on the news. I thought, well, 293 00:11:45,906 --> 00:11:46,907 we don't want 294 00:11:46,907 --> 00:11:47,908 people with expired badges to be able 295 00:11:47,908 --> 00:11:49,910 to come in and, you know, get 296 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:50,911 access to our facilities to cause harm. 297 00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:53,311 and so, this started 298 00:11:53,914 --> 00:11:55,914 this process. 299 00:11:56,917 --> 00:11:58,919 I have learned that we 300 00:11:58,919 --> 00:11:59,920 have one more little tweaks we are 301 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,922 going to have to add to this. 302 00:12:01,922 --> 00:12:05,926 I am still getting comments from board members 303 00:12:05,926 --> 00:12:07,861 , easy that even 304 00:12:07,861 --> 00:12:08,862 as of today, that the old badges are 305 00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:09,863 still working. What I have now 306 00:12:09,863 --> 00:12:11,865 learned over the last many months 307 00:12:11,865 --> 00:12:14,265 on this is that 308 00:12:17,871 --> 00:12:18,872 our 309 00:12:18,872 --> 00:12:20,874 badges are programmed twice, at least 310 00:12:20,874 --> 00:12:21,875 board members, and anybody who has 311 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:22,876 access to this 312 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:23,877 building here at union station. The 313 00:12:23,877 --> 00:12:28,770 expired badges, I believe, will not work, 314 00:12:29,883 --> 00:12:31,883 will not work 315 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:32,886 at the wilshire building or any of 316 00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:33,887 our facilities because they have been 317 00:12:33,887 --> 00:12:34,888 turned off. 318 00:12:34,888 --> 00:12:38,892 but what if it turned off are the 319 00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:39,893 access to this building here by ellie 320 00:12:39,893 --> 00:12:40,894 metro. Somehow we 321 00:12:40,894 --> 00:12:45,694 have got to communicate to ellie metro that 322 00:12:47,901 --> 00:12:48,902 --l.a. Metro, that when board members 323 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:49,903 change out 324 00:12:49,903 --> 00:12:51,905 or expired badges, et cetera, anybody 325 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:54,908 who has access to this building, 326 00:12:54,908 --> 00:12:55,909 they should be 327 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:56,910 notified to deactivate those badges 328 00:12:56,910 --> 00:12:57,911 as well. I think that is the one thing 329 00:12:57,911 --> 00:12:58,912 we 330 00:12:58,912 --> 00:13:00,914 have to add to this to make sure that 331 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:01,915 gets accomplished, and we should 332 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:06,715 be good. I will leave it at that. 333 00:13:08,856 --> 00:13:09,857 this is a receive and file. Appreciate 334 00:13:09,857 --> 00:13:10,858 the audit 335 00:13:10,858 --> 00:13:11,859 department's long-term deal to get 336 00:13:11,859 --> 00:13:12,860 this resolved and figured out. It 337 00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:14,860 will 338 00:13:15,863 --> 00:13:18,863 lead to the much safer 339 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:20,866 work environment for 340 00:13:25,873 --> 00:13:27,875 all of the metrolink family. With 341 00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:28,876 that, we moved to item 6d, 342 00:13:28,876 --> 00:13:30,878 financial results for the first seven 343 00:13:30,878 --> 00:13:32,878 months of 344 00:13:36,884 --> 00:13:37,885 fiscal year 345 00:13:37,885 --> 00:13:38,886 2025 through january 2025 ridership, 346 00:13:38,886 --> 00:13:39,887 revenue and operating results. Presented 347 00:13:39,887 --> 00:13:40,888 by christine wilson, assistant director 348 00:13:40,888 --> 00:13:41,889 of finance. 349 00:13:41,889 --> 00:13:42,890 >> good morning, again. 350 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:44,890 this slide 351 00:13:45,893 --> 00:13:47,893 shows the actual 352 00:13:50,898 --> 00:13:51,899 versus forecast ridership by month. 353 00:13:51,899 --> 00:13:54,899 the redline is the budget, 354 00:13:54,902 --> 00:13:55,903 the columns are actual 355 00:13:55,903 --> 00:13:56,904 with the blue portion regular ridership 356 00:13:56,904 --> 00:13:57,905 in the orange portion the student 357 00:13:57,905 --> 00:13:58,906 adventure 358 00:13:58,906 --> 00:14:00,908 pass ridership. As you can see, where 359 00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,308 below the forecast ridership. 360 00:14:03,911 --> 00:14:04,912 much of this has 361 00:14:04,912 --> 00:14:06,914 to do with the devastating fires in 362 00:14:06,914 --> 00:14:09,914 the month of january. Reductions 363 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:12,920 went from 2.5% on the ventura line to 364 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,920 9% 365 00:14:15,923 --> 00:14:18,923 on the antelope valley line. 366 00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:19,927 this graph shows the 367 00:14:19,927 --> 00:14:21,929 current ridership forecast for the 368 00:14:21,929 --> 00:14:24,932 entire year. Looking at the most 369 00:14:24,932 --> 00:14:26,932 recent month, 370 00:14:28,936 --> 00:14:29,937 january is historically a recovery from 371 00:14:29,937 --> 00:14:30,938 december holidays. This year was different. 372 00:14:30,938 --> 00:14:32,938 the fires 373 00:14:33,941 --> 00:14:36,341 had a real effect 374 00:14:40,948 --> 00:14:42,950 . Through january, ridership was forecasted 375 00:14:42,950 --> 00:14:43,951 at 4.2 million or 60% while actuals 376 00:14:43,951 --> 00:14:45,953 work 4.3 or 62%. The student adventure 377 00:14:45,953 --> 00:14:48,953 pass pilot provided 1.3 million writers 378 00:14:48,956 --> 00:14:51,356 --riders year to date. 379 00:14:51,959 --> 00:14:52,960 we see here a graph of farebox revenue 380 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,962 by month and the current forecast 381 00:14:54,962 --> 00:14:56,964 for the rest of the year. 382 00:14:56,964 --> 00:14:57,965 through the month of january, revenue 383 00:14:57,965 --> 00:14:59,965 was budgeted at 384 00:15:03,971 --> 00:15:05,971 24.4 million or 54% recovery, 385 00:15:05,973 --> 00:15:06,974 while the actual is 23. 4 million 386 00:15:06,974 --> 00:15:08,974 or a 52% recovery. 387 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:11,910 1.1 388 00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:16,917 1.1 million 389 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:18,919 under budget. What are we so far under 390 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:21,919 forecast? The 25% monthly pass discount 391 00:15:21,922 --> 00:15:24,925 offered systemwide for the poor on-time 392 00:15:24,925 --> 00:15:26,925 performance account 393 00:15:27,928 --> 00:15:29,930 --accounts for 170,000 of the shortfall. 394 00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:30,931 the reduction of the student adventure 395 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:32,931 pass reimbursement 396 00:15:33,934 --> 00:15:34,935 to 397 00:15:34,935 --> 00:15:36,935 25% accounts for another 600,000. 398 00:15:36,937 --> 00:15:38,937 free rides for 399 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:41,940 fire victims added 400 00:15:42,943 --> 00:15:43,944 to the reduction in revenue. There 401 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:44,945 were fewer 402 00:15:44,945 --> 00:15:49,145 passengers as a result of the fire. 403 00:15:51,952 --> 00:15:52,953 for total financial results in january, 404 00:15:52,953 --> 00:15:54,955 before san clemente, total expenses 405 00:15:54,955 --> 00:15:57,955 were under budget by 17.6 million 406 00:16:03,964 --> 00:16:04,965 , and member agency support is in 407 00:16:04,965 --> 00:16:05,966 surplus 408 00:16:05,966 --> 00:16:06,967 by 21 point 4. Total operating revenue 409 00:16:06,967 --> 00:16:08,902 is 37.6, less than 410 00:16:08,902 --> 00:16:11,902 0.1 million under budget. Total expenses 411 00:16:23,917 --> 00:16:24,918 at 169.8 million are 17.6 million 412 00:16:24,918 --> 00:16:25,919 under budget. Categories under 413 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:27,921 budget hour as shown on the slides. 414 00:16:27,921 --> 00:16:28,922 these expenses, I remind you, are 415 00:16:28,922 --> 00:16:30,922 based on 416 00:16:30,924 --> 00:16:31,925 accruals, not actuals. This slide 417 00:16:31,925 --> 00:16:33,925 shows 418 00:16:33,927 --> 00:16:35,927 that we had 419 00:16:39,933 --> 00:16:40,934 passed two receivables of 420 00:16:40,934 --> 00:16:42,936 almost 40 million. In truth, by now, 421 00:16:42,936 --> 00:16:43,937 we actually have received 30 of it. 422 00:16:43,937 --> 00:16:45,937 this 423 00:16:45,939 --> 00:16:48,942 is way out of date, -- 424 00:16:48,942 --> 00:16:49,943 , just because we have received the 425 00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:50,944 money. This 426 00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:55,744 is the operating cash that we are presenting 427 00:16:57,951 --> 00:16:58,952 our cash position at metro. As you 428 00:16:58,952 --> 00:16:59,953 know, there 429 00:16:59,953 --> 00:17:00,954 is a $50 million threshold we are 430 00:17:00,954 --> 00:17:02,954 to maintain 431 00:17:02,956 --> 00:17:06,556 . You see here that the threshold 432 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,360 , the amount we're at 433 00:17:09,897 --> 00:17:11,897 right now, is 86.1. 434 00:17:15,903 --> 00:17:17,903 moving to 435 00:17:18,906 --> 00:17:21,906 arrow. This is the ridership 436 00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:23,909 by month. 437 00:17:27,915 --> 00:17:28,916 through january, the 438 00:17:28,916 --> 00:17:29,917 ridership was forecasted at 81,000 439 00:17:29,917 --> 00:17:30,918 and actual ridership is at 85,000. 440 00:17:30,918 --> 00:17:31,919 over forecast by 4000. 441 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:33,921 year to date, the student adventure 442 00:17:33,921 --> 00:17:38,121 pass attributes over half of the ridership. 443 00:17:48,936 --> 00:17:49,937 this is the arrow farebox revenue 444 00:17:49,937 --> 00:17:50,938 by month compared to budget. Through 445 00:17:50,938 --> 00:17:51,939 january, farebox revenue was budgeted 446 00:17:51,939 --> 00:17:52,940 at 113,000 and the 447 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:54,942 actual is 217,000, over budget by 448 00:17:54,942 --> 00:17:55,943 102,000. With the student adventure 449 00:17:55,943 --> 00:17:57,943 pass contributing half 450 00:17:57,945 --> 00:18:00,345 of the revenue. Financial 451 00:18:00,948 --> 00:18:02,948 results for 452 00:18:06,954 --> 00:18:07,888 arrow through january show operating 453 00:18:07,888 --> 00:18:09,890 revenue at 365,000, or 264,000 over 454 00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:11,890 budget. 455 00:18:12,893 --> 00:18:15,893 expenses are 8.9 million, or 1.1 billion 456 00:18:21,902 --> 00:18:22,903 --million over budget. Support is 457 00:18:22,903 --> 00:18:24,903 required at 8.6 458 00:18:24,905 --> 00:18:25,906 million, or in surplus by 1.3 million. 459 00:18:25,906 --> 00:18:27,908 this is the student 460 00:18:27,908 --> 00:18:30,908 adventure pass update. As you 461 00:18:30,911 --> 00:18:33,914 can see, this slide shows the 462 00:18:33,914 --> 00:18:36,314 amount of the student 463 00:18:36,917 --> 00:18:39,917 adventure pass ridership that we 464 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,920 have obtained both through tvd 465 00:18:42,923 --> 00:18:45,323 and the mobile app. 466 00:18:45,926 --> 00:18:48,929 as you can see, it has added 467 00:18:48,929 --> 00:18:49,930 1.4 million riders to the system, 468 00:18:49,930 --> 00:18:51,930 including 469 00:18:51,932 --> 00:18:53,932 arrow. 470 00:18:58,939 --> 00:18:59,940 this is an update on the fy 26 471 00:18:59,940 --> 00:19:01,942 budget development schedule. We have 472 00:19:01,942 --> 00:19:03,942 , 473 00:19:04,945 --> 00:19:06,945 thus far, 474 00:19:09,883 --> 00:19:10,884 the budget presented to member agency 475 00:19:10,884 --> 00:19:11,885 cfos three 476 00:19:11,885 --> 00:19:12,886 times, and to the membership agency 477 00:19:12,886 --> 00:19:16,486 ceos on february 21. We continue to 478 00:19:16,890 --> 00:19:19,893 be in daily discussions with the member agencies 479 00:19:19,893 --> 00:19:21,893 on fy 26 budget 480 00:19:21,895 --> 00:19:22,896 , and we feel that we are on track 481 00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:24,896 to bring 482 00:19:25,899 --> 00:19:28,902 a budget as required to this 483 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:30,902 committee next month. 484 00:19:33,907 --> 00:19:34,908 that concludes my report. May I answer 485 00:19:34,908 --> 00:19:35,909 any 486 00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:36,910 questions? 487 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:37,911 >> did any of the agencies 488 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:38,912 that you have been --of 489 00:19:38,912 --> 00:19:40,914 the member agencies have any issues 490 00:19:40,914 --> 00:19:41,915 with what the 26 491 00:19:41,915 --> 00:19:42,916 budget is looking like? 492 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:43,917 >> at the 493 00:19:43,917 --> 00:19:45,917 beginning, but 494 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,921 by now, almost everyone is -- 495 00:19:47,921 --> 00:19:49,923 there are certain things we still 496 00:19:49,923 --> 00:19:50,924 have to work out. 497 00:19:50,924 --> 00:19:52,924 >> no 498 00:19:52,926 --> 00:19:54,926 huge hurdles 499 00:19:55,929 --> 00:19:56,930 that will cause any -- 500 00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:57,931 >> 501 00:19:57,931 --> 00:19:58,932 we will work them out. 502 00:19:58,932 --> 00:19:59,933 >> any questions 503 00:19:59,933 --> 00:20:00,934 or comments by anybody? Okay. This 504 00:20:00,934 --> 00:20:01,935 one is receive and file. Do we have 505 00:20:01,935 --> 00:20:03,935 any 506 00:20:04,938 --> 00:20:07,338 public comments on that 507 00:20:07,875 --> 00:20:08,876 ? 508 00:20:08,876 --> 00:20:09,877 >> I have not received any 509 00:20:09,877 --> 00:20:10,878 written public comments or request 510 00:20:10,878 --> 00:20:11,879 to speak on that item. 511 00:20:11,879 --> 00:20:12,880 >> okay. Our 512 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:13,881 most 513 00:20:13,881 --> 00:20:16,881 favorite part of the day 514 00:20:16,884 --> 00:20:17,885 , ceos report. 515 00:20:17,885 --> 00:20:18,886 >> 516 00:20:18,886 --> 00:20:19,887 I will make sure it is brief so it 517 00:20:19,887 --> 00:20:20,888 stays your favorite. Very quickly, 518 00:20:20,888 --> 00:20:21,889 we 519 00:20:21,889 --> 00:20:24,892 mentioned this in the executive committee meeting 520 00:20:24,892 --> 00:20:25,893 . I think it is important to share 521 00:20:25,893 --> 00:20:27,893 here 522 00:20:28,896 --> 00:20:29,897 today as well as it 523 00:20:29,897 --> 00:20:31,899 relates to some financial issues. 524 00:20:31,899 --> 00:20:33,899 we are all 525 00:20:35,903 --> 00:20:37,905 looking towards 2028 in our ability 526 00:20:37,905 --> 00:20:40,905 to be ready to move 527 00:20:40,908 --> 00:20:45,108 so many people for the olympic games. 528 00:20:49,917 --> 00:20:50,918 the most 529 00:20:50,918 --> 00:20:51,919 --most recently, we had an earmark 530 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:52,920 in a senate appropriations bill that 531 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,921 was going 532 00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,923 to set aside $200 million to the region 533 00:20:55,923 --> 00:20:57,923 4 --region for 534 00:20:57,925 --> 00:20:58,926 olympics preparedness. And 25 million 535 00:20:58,926 --> 00:20:59,927 was identified 536 00:20:59,927 --> 00:21:01,929 for metrolink. With what is expected 537 00:21:01,929 --> 00:21:05,529 to happen today in the senate, 538 00:21:06,934 --> 00:21:07,868 that they will act on the house's 539 00:21:07,868 --> 00:21:09,868 version of the 540 00:21:10,871 --> 00:21:12,871 continuing resolution 541 00:21:13,874 --> 00:21:14,875 , that will effectively 542 00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:15,876 eliminate the earmarks that were identified 543 00:21:15,876 --> 00:21:16,877 in that senate appropriations package 544 00:21:16,877 --> 00:21:18,877 in the 545 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,880 appropriations bill. 546 00:21:21,882 --> 00:21:22,883 besides losing the money, the other 547 00:21:22,883 --> 00:21:24,883 element it did 548 00:21:24,885 --> 00:21:25,886 is that that action, that earmark, 549 00:21:25,886 --> 00:21:27,886 was creating a 550 00:21:28,889 --> 00:21:30,889 special account for 551 00:21:31,892 --> 00:21:33,894 the olympic games so there 552 00:21:33,894 --> 00:21:34,895 was this place you could put money 553 00:21:34,895 --> 00:21:36,895 over the 554 00:21:36,897 --> 00:21:40,497 next appropriations cycles. The action where 555 00:21:45,906 --> 00:21:46,907 the cr will eliminate the ability 556 00:21:46,907 --> 00:21:47,908 of having that 557 00:21:47,908 --> 00:21:49,910 account also available for us for 558 00:21:49,910 --> 00:21:50,911 future efforts. Where now --the royal 559 00:21:50,911 --> 00:21:51,912 we, 560 00:21:51,912 --> 00:21:52,913 collectively, will have to identify 561 00:21:52,913 --> 00:21:54,915 another way of securing funding 562 00:21:54,915 --> 00:21:58,515 from the federal government. Is a 563 00:21:58,919 --> 00:21:59,920 big deal. 564 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,922 is a huge disappointment. We had other 565 00:22:01,922 --> 00:22:02,923 earmarks in both house and senate 566 00:22:02,923 --> 00:22:03,924 packages, 567 00:22:03,924 --> 00:22:04,925 as probably some of your own home 568 00:22:04,925 --> 00:22:06,927 agencies had. On top of 569 00:22:06,927 --> 00:22:07,861 that, we've also lost other earmarks 570 00:22:07,861 --> 00:22:09,861 as well 571 00:22:12,866 --> 00:22:17,666 through what is happening in washington d.c. 572 00:22:19,873 --> 00:22:20,874 thought I would share that with the 573 00:22:20,874 --> 00:22:21,875 group is 574 00:22:21,875 --> 00:22:22,876 the only other item is that I want 575 00:22:22,876 --> 00:22:23,877 to call back your attention to the 576 00:22:23,877 --> 00:22:25,879 announcement I made earlier this week 577 00:22:25,879 --> 00:22:26,880 that on friday of last week our chief 578 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,881 financial 579 00:22:27,881 --> 00:22:28,882 officer let me know that he was going 580 00:22:28,882 --> 00:22:31,882 to be moving on to 581 00:22:31,885 --> 00:22:33,885 new activities 582 00:22:34,888 --> 00:22:36,888 , new things. He 583 00:22:36,890 --> 00:22:37,891 is going to be leaving us here at 584 00:22:37,891 --> 00:22:40,291 metrolink in early april. 585 00:22:40,894 --> 00:22:41,895 this is why 586 00:22:41,895 --> 00:22:42,896 christine wilson felt so confident 587 00:22:42,896 --> 00:22:43,897 in saying we will have the budget 588 00:22:43,897 --> 00:22:44,898 all worked out. 589 00:22:44,898 --> 00:22:46,900 it is because arnold has committed 590 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:47,901 to making sure it is done before he 591 00:22:47,901 --> 00:22:49,901 rides 592 00:22:49,903 --> 00:22:52,303 off into the sunset. 593 00:22:57,911 --> 00:22:58,912 that is why christine said, sure, 594 00:22:58,912 --> 00:22:59,913 we have got no problem. In any 595 00:22:59,913 --> 00:23:01,915 event, I said it earlier, my thanks 596 00:23:01,915 --> 00:23:02,916 to arnold for his service here at 597 00:23:02,916 --> 00:23:03,917 metrolink. He 598 00:23:03,917 --> 00:23:04,918 has been --it has been six or seven 599 00:23:04,918 --> 00:23:07,318 years he served in 600 00:23:07,855 --> 00:23:09,855 various capacities. 601 00:23:10,858 --> 00:23:11,859 he has helped us to get 602 00:23:11,859 --> 00:23:13,861 through this challenging time of coming 603 00:23:13,861 --> 00:23:14,862 out of covid and metrolink reimagined 604 00:23:14,862 --> 00:23:16,862 and a 605 00:23:16,864 --> 00:23:17,865 few other elements. It took his steadfast leadership 606 00:23:17,865 --> 00:23:19,867 in that regard to 607 00:23:19,867 --> 00:23:22,267 help us navigate that 608 00:23:31,879 --> 00:23:32,880 , and working with 609 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,882 her member agencies. My thanks, again, 610 00:23:34,882 --> 00:23:35,883 to arnold for his service. You will 611 00:23:35,883 --> 00:23:36,884 hear me 612 00:23:36,884 --> 00:23:37,885 talk about this. We have a couple 613 00:23:37,885 --> 00:23:38,886 more meetings where I get to embarrass 614 00:23:38,886 --> 00:23:39,887 him 615 00:23:39,887 --> 00:23:40,888 in public. You will hear more on that 616 00:23:40,888 --> 00:23:41,889 too. They could, mr. Chair. That 617 00:23:41,889 --> 00:23:42,890 concludes my remarks. 618 00:23:42,890 --> 00:23:43,891 >> appreciate 619 00:23:43,891 --> 00:23:44,892 your comments. Follow-up question 620 00:23:44,892 --> 00:23:45,893 for you. With the cr, is 621 00:23:45,893 --> 00:23:46,894 it passes today, that keeps the government 622 00:23:46,894 --> 00:23:47,895 open for a couple more months. What 623 00:23:47,895 --> 00:23:49,895 about, 624 00:23:49,897 --> 00:23:50,898 at that point, are these earmarks 625 00:23:50,898 --> 00:23:52,898 potentially able to 626 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:57,100 be put back into a final resolution 627 00:23:58,906 --> 00:23:59,907 ? How does that work? 628 00:23:59,907 --> 00:24:00,908 >> so what 629 00:24:00,908 --> 00:24:01,909 we're hearing, in fact, the timing 630 00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:04,912 right now is that the members are, 631 00:24:04,912 --> 00:24:06,912 many members 632 00:24:13,921 --> 00:24:14,922 from southern california, are now putting 633 00:24:14,922 --> 00:24:15,923 out the notice that 634 00:24:15,923 --> 00:24:16,924 we are accepting new earmark requests. 635 00:24:16,924 --> 00:24:17,925 we have a few already lined up that 636 00:24:17,925 --> 00:24:18,926 we 637 00:24:18,926 --> 00:24:19,927 will be looking at. This 200 million 638 00:24:19,927 --> 00:24:20,928 one was a movement of funding from 639 00:24:20,928 --> 00:24:22,928 one 640 00:24:23,931 --> 00:24:24,932 program that was 641 00:24:24,932 --> 00:24:25,933 stepped back and put this 200 million 642 00:24:25,933 --> 00:24:27,935 into the special account. I think 643 00:24:27,935 --> 00:24:29,937 we will go back after it. We will 644 00:24:29,937 --> 00:24:30,938 be looking at fy 26. The appropriations 645 00:24:30,938 --> 00:24:31,939 package that was being done today, 646 00:24:31,939 --> 00:24:35,943 that will be done today, was actually 647 00:24:35,943 --> 00:24:37,943 fy 25 648 00:24:38,946 --> 00:24:39,947 , the year we are in right 649 00:24:39,947 --> 00:24:40,948 now, and the can has been kicked down 650 00:24:40,948 --> 00:24:41,949 the street a few different times. 651 00:24:41,949 --> 00:24:42,950 now -- 652 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:44,952 they want to appropriate, appropriators 653 00:24:44,952 --> 00:24:47,352 want to appropriate -- 654 00:24:49,957 --> 00:24:50,958 the fact that the cr will move forward 655 00:24:50,958 --> 00:24:51,959 means we keep things 656 00:24:51,959 --> 00:24:52,960 business as usual. Then we will likely 657 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,961 see some level of continuing resolution 658 00:24:53,961 --> 00:24:55,961 as we 659 00:24:56,964 --> 00:24:59,964 get into federal fiscal year 660 00:25:00,968 --> 00:25:02,970 , september 30. We will see what happens 661 00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:04,970 as to whether 662 00:25:04,972 --> 00:25:05,973 we see continuing resolutions for 663 00:25:05,973 --> 00:25:07,973 fy 26 664 00:25:08,909 --> 00:25:10,909 as well. 665 00:25:11,912 --> 00:25:12,913 theoretically, congress should 666 00:25:12,913 --> 00:25:13,914 act over the summer, and we should 667 00:25:13,914 --> 00:25:14,915 have a full appropriations package 668 00:25:14,915 --> 00:25:15,916 by the 669 00:25:15,916 --> 00:25:17,918 end of september. That has not happened 670 00:25:17,918 --> 00:25:19,918 emma doesn't 671 00:25:20,921 --> 00:25:21,922 happen all the time. So 672 00:25:21,922 --> 00:25:25,522 we will likely see some continuation 673 00:25:25,926 --> 00:25:26,927 of the fy 26, but we will all be making 674 00:25:26,927 --> 00:25:27,928 requests, and 675 00:25:27,928 --> 00:25:30,928 certainly metrolink will be through 676 00:25:34,935 --> 00:25:35,936 earmark requests in future appropriations 677 00:25:35,936 --> 00:25:36,937 packages. 678 00:25:36,937 --> 00:25:38,937 >> 679 00:25:38,939 --> 00:25:39,940 okay. Thank you. 680 00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:41,942 committee member comments. Anybody 681 00:25:41,942 --> 00:25:44,942 have anything on their mind? 682 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:50,951 pam? But I just want to add about 683 00:25:50,951 --> 00:25:51,952 arnold. In addition 684 00:25:51,952 --> 00:25:52,953 to his technical abilities, he has 685 00:25:52,953 --> 00:25:53,954 always been a very genial and kind 686 00:25:53,954 --> 00:25:54,955 person. I 687 00:25:54,955 --> 00:25:55,956 appreciate that. 688 00:25:55,956 --> 00:25:57,956 >> anybody else? 689 00:26:08,902 --> 00:26:09,903 you ought to see him when the 690 00:26:09,903 --> 00:26:10,904 member agencies aren't cooperative. 691 00:26:10,904 --> 00:26:11,905 that he is not so congenial. 692 00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:12,906 >> that 693 00:26:12,906 --> 00:26:13,907 is because he 694 00:26:13,907 --> 00:26:14,908 knows when to pull his punches and 695 00:26:14,908 --> 00:26:15,909 be the tough guy. 696 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:16,910 >> you've got it. 697 00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:17,911 absolutely. 698 00:26:17,911 --> 00:26:18,912 >> but to still maintain 699 00:26:18,912 --> 00:26:19,913 good relationships. 700 00:26:19,913 --> 00:26:20,914 >> no doubt. Are 701 00:26:20,914 --> 00:26:21,915 right. Chair's comments. 702 00:26:21,915 --> 00:26:22,916 arnold, I hope this is a retirement, 703 00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:23,917 not l.a. Metro stealing somebody else 704 00:26:23,917 --> 00:26:24,918 from 705 00:26:24,918 --> 00:26:29,718 us . I will also point out that, before 706 00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:30,924 darren, you filled 707 00:26:30,924 --> 00:26:32,926 the shoes as the ceo, interim ceo 708 00:26:32,926 --> 00:26:35,929 for a bit. You have had a variety 709 00:26:35,929 --> 00:26:37,929 of roles 710 00:26:37,931 --> 00:26:38,932 . You know, your reports are always 711 00:26:38,932 --> 00:26:40,932 very 712 00:26:41,935 --> 00:26:43,937 well presented . We appreciate all 713 00:26:43,937 --> 00:26:44,938 that you have done here at metrolink. 714 00:26:44,938 --> 00:26:47,938 hopefully, you are going fishing 715 00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:48,942 and not fishing for something down 716 00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:50,942 the 717 00:26:50,944 --> 00:26:52,944 street. [ laughter ] 718 00:26:55,949 --> 00:26:56,950 we will have to find that out. All right. 719 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:59,000 with that, we're going to go ahead and adjourn.