[4:32] >> All I have is my credibility. [4:33] When it comes to ice cometh the strategy of letting activists do [4:37] the talking, while Mac remains silent cannot continue. [4:42] The airport doesn't need to express an opinion they just [4:45] need to acknowledge reality. [4:47] Today that means talking about how [4:50] Ice is detaining people on jet as they board their flights even [4:53] when traveling domestically. [4:54] Many Minnesotans will immediately dismiss concerns [4:58] when they're coming from the union or some heavy set hippie, [5:01] your continued silence is harming the state [5:03] that you are supposed to be serving. [5:05] The voice of the airport needs to do more than tell people [5:08] to call police when they can't do anything or defer comment [5:10] to the feds. [5:11] We have been coming here asking for you to do better for months. [5:15] Tomorrow will observe the 5,000th person getting flown [5:20] away from their homes by ice here at MSP. [5:24] Including your workers. [5:26] Including Minnesota's children. [5:28] When will it be enough for you to speak? [5:31] I continue to be impressed every time [5:34] I interact with the staff and the workers here. [5:36] They are proactive common courteous common many [5:38] have privately offered praise and support for my remarks here. [5:41] If there are any continued hard feelings about tone or disunity, [5:45] I suggest the problem is coming from that end of the room, [5:48] and not this side of the podium. [5:50] Once again to be clear I'm not blaming the commission for Ice [5:53] activity, I'm asking for transparency and accountability [5:55] for your workers, for the traveling public, the commitment [5:59] for acknowledging the truth. [6:02] Max values are to take ownership, treat [6:04] each other well, act with integrity, [6:06] and continuously improve. [6:09] It's time to start doing your job. [6:11] Thank you. [6:13] >> Thank you. [6:14] Is there anyone else who would like to take this opportunity [6:18] to speak before the commission? [6:21] Hearing none, we go through to item 1.5, [6:26] and I call on Naomi to come forward. [6:31] Thank you. [7:07] >> Who am I? [7:08] Where am I? [7:08] Okay thank you. [7:10] Well, good afternoon Chair Lawrence and Commissioners. [7:15] I'm Naomi Pesky the vice president of strategy [7:18] and stakeholder engagement. [7:20] And I am very pleased to be here to share that the Mac has [7:28] recently earned two honors from the Minnesota Association [7:32] of Government Communicators. [7:35] Through its Northern Lights Awards program. [7:38] This is a long standing program that [7:42] recognizes outstanding work and Minnesota's government, [7:46] educational, and nonprofit communications. [7:49] Entries are judged by government communicators in North Carolina. [7:53] To remove any local bias. [7:56] The two awards that we are sharing today [7:59] demonstrate the excellence of the Mac's [8:01] internal and external communications, led [8:04] by our strategic Marketing and Communication [8:08] Department in partnership with stakeholders across the Mac. [8:11] Here are the 2026 award winning projects. [8:17] Okay. [8:18] So, the first one is for the MSP Airport threads account. [8:25] For this, we won the Northern Lights Award [8:27] which is the name of the first place award. [8:30] It is in the social media engagement [8:32] category for large entities. [8:34] This category recognizes documented successes [8:38] in building community engagement and social media. [8:42] Threads is a meta platform where posts are text first rather than [8:46] image first. [8:48] Threads launched three years ago and has already [8:52] grown past 500 million monthly users on that platform. [8:56] Which is on par with X. Our digital marketing manager [9:01] Isaac Rossouw, Where is Isaac? [9:05] Hi Isaac! [9:06] In partnership with the full strategic marketing [9:10] and communications team launched the MSP Airport Threads account [9:14] in 2025. [9:16] On threads, a distinct voice is what stands out. [9:19] And, in the past year a team has built a following [9:23] based on local humor and airport personality. [9:27] Such as focusing on Minnesota things like hot dish, [9:32] duck duck gray duck, keeping MSP and travel top of mind [9:37] for our local followers -- you can see a clip post gives some [9:42] taste for some of the local humor and airport personality. [9:46] The approach has been successful, [9:48] Mac has been able to nearly double the account's followers [9:52] without any paid media spend which [9:54] is increasingly very challenging in today's social media [9:57] landscape. [9:58] And users engage with posts through likes, comments, [10:01] and shares, 10,000 times. [10:03] Our posts have earned over 200,000 impressions. [10:08] The second award is for a Silver award, [10:14] our second place in the agency Event program or service video [10:17] category. [10:18] This category recognizes videos that educates or informs [10:23] audiences about an initiative. [10:25] In December, the video making Triazole [10:28] was the first story in a new video [10:30] series called Mac Spotlight. [10:31] The series is primarily designed as an internal communication [10:35] strategy to engage and inform Mac employees [10:38] about the people, places, and work across our organization. [10:43] However, there are some installments [10:44] such as this one which are also relevant [10:47] for our external audiences. [10:49] It provides an authentic social media content [10:52] to strengthen engagement and support [10:54] external brand recognition of the Mac's owner and operator [10:58] MSP. [10:58] The Spotlight series is produced by Manager of Strategic [11:02] Communications Jeff Lee. [11:05] In partnership with the Marketing Communications [11:09] Department and subject matter experts across the Mac. [11:13] For the first installment the key stakeholder group [11:15] that he partnered with was Airport Development. [11:18] This video takes viewers behind the scenes of a major component [11:22] to the recently completed airport modernization program [11:26] that resulted in the largest interior makeover of Msp's [11:30] terminal one. [11:31] Since it opened in 1962. [11:33] The video showcases the skilled craftsmanship behind Terrazzo [11:37] flooring and how these improvements enhance [11:40] the passenger experience. [11:42] I would like to show you a 62nd clip of the original three [11:47] minute long video so that you can get a taste of what this [11:51] great video does. [12:08] I'm not sure why that's not working. [14:18] Have MCs here for wheelchair pushers, for folks with bags [14:23] >> After 17 years the custom fields are brown gray and beige [14:26] have been flipped for harder shinier Terrazzo. [14:30] >> It lasts a very long time, it's got an ROI of over 25 [14:33] years, makes more sense comments cheaper to clean, [14:36] it's easier for wheelchair pushers, for folks with bags. [14:41] >> Berkshire bays coastal fog and Sleigh bells. [14:45] >> On this night Terrazzo finisher Randy Larson and team [14:48] helped to create the white mix. [14:49] A recipe of marble, and seashell chips. [14:53] At the poor sight there's no grand machine laying down [14:56] the floor on the g c SkyBridge. [14:59] Just the well experienced hands of two Terrazzo craftsmen. [15:05] In a decade's time MSP will have gained [15:09] the equivalent of nine football fields of Terrazzo. [15:11] Making travel seamlessly smoother [15:15] while providing a unique canvas of art underfoot. [15:18] Pointing travelers away and home again [15:20] and reflecting the changing times and shadows [15:23] of an airport in motion. [15:25] For Max spotlight, Jeff Lee. [15:31] >> Thank you Brad for your help. [15:34] So, I will just wrap up, I'm not going to pull open [15:39] another presentation. [15:40] But I will just close with sharing [15:43] that we are we were two of nearly 200 entries [15:49] that were submitted for consideration for this year's [15:53] awards. [15:53] And the categories were many. [15:56] We competed against other large scale government entities, [15:59] several State Department Metro Transit Metro area [16:02] counties and cities with robust communication programs as well. [16:06] And I'm really proud of the team the awards recognize [16:10] the quality of our communications [16:11] and the demonstrated success. [16:13] Not only reaching but truly engaging. [16:16] Our target audiences are both internal and external [16:18] so I want to congratulate our talented strategic marketing [16:21] and communications team members whose work [16:23] continues to elevate the Mac's purpose, share our story, [16:26] and extend the MSP brand across digital channels. [16:29] And thank you to all of our stakeholders [16:32] who enable us to have great work to amplify and enable us [16:35] to do great work together. [16:37] And who are always there to help us out. [16:40] Right Brad? [16:41] Okay. [16:42] So, I will close with that, and if anybody [16:46] has any questions or anything they want to share, [16:49] I can stand for that. [16:52] >> Any questions? [16:53] Comments? [16:54] Congratulations to you and the team. [16:56] For those awards. [16:58] I think next up is Angela and Ross. [17:18] >> Good afternoon Chair Lawrence and commissioners I'm Angela [17:21] Enright the senior project manager with Mac airport [17:25] development and I'm here to announce that the terminal one [17:27] operational improvements project won a finance and Commerce Top [17:32] Project award for 2025. [17:35] So this was for our entire operational improvements program [17:40] over the last ten years. [17:43] So, the project was honored for this year [17:47] for its degree of difficulty, creativity and design, [17:50] innovative construction techniques, cooperation [17:53] among contractors and management, [17:56] and sustainability efforts that were [17:58] woven through the effort making it not only transformative, [18:02] but responsible. [18:04] So operational improvements was a ten year $600 million [18:08] renovation, of the entire front of house at terminal one. [18:12] That originally opened in 1962. [18:15] And, the project encompassed 730,000ft². [18:18] Of space to be remodeled including about a 1600 [18:24] zero square foot new addition on the front portion [18:27] of the terminal. [18:29] So nearly every part of the passenger journey [18:31] was touched from curbside arrival and ticketing [18:34] to baggage baggage claim. [18:36] So, remarkably all of this was completed while maintaining full [18:40] 24/7 airport operations for the entire decade that the project [18:45] was under construction. [18:47] So, I want to sincerely acknowledge [18:51] our design team and the contractors, [18:53] our Mac stakeholders and tenants, and the airlines [18:56] for their unwavering dedication and teamwork to the project, as [19:01] well as our commissioners. [19:03] Thank you for your steadfast support [19:04] throughout this project's long and ambitious journey. [19:08] So come on this project wasn't just a renovation, [19:11] it was a decades long commitment to shaping [19:14] the future for our travelers and passengers. [19:17] So, thank you for being part of that journey for us. [19:21] We accepted the award in July excuse me August. [19:26] And this is just a small portion of our design team. [19:29] So there were dozens if not hundreds [19:31] of people involved from the design team and contractor side. [19:34] So it was very nice to be honored with that award. [19:41] >> Well deserved and congratulations from me [19:43] and I'm sure all the other commissioners. [19:45] Does anybody have a question? [19:46] Comment? [19:47] Thank you very much. [19:50] >> Thank you. [19:51] >> Now turning back to the agenda, [19:52] we have had some people arrive a bit late. [19:57] Who did want to speak in the public comment. [20:02] I hope I pronounced the name right.? [20:09] Please join us. [20:10] Thank you. [20:23] And I'm sorry hello everybody my name is -- [20:29] I'm here I drive Uber and Lyft, I'm also organized with SRU. [20:39] Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. [20:43] I'm here to speak support for the proposal (Indiscernible) [21:00] We have running water improvement with a new facility [21:08] will be a big improvement from that. [21:11] We are also grateful to have we now [21:15] have a regular communication with airport [21:18] staff and the drivers union. [21:21] It is good to work together. [21:23] As we are working and we plan to improve conditions for drivers, [21:28] we ask that we involve us in the plan process. [21:36] And we will then be waiting for a long time. [21:44] We'll need the break area doesn't shelter from the area. [21:51] It takes care of the customers here at MSB. [21:55] We need dignity, and a facility like all other workers. [22:01] We want to make the airport safe and a welcome place [22:06] for everyone. [22:06] And thank you so much. [22:11] >> Thank you. [22:14] There's one other. [22:24] So, Sean Smith Atkins? [22:33] >> Sharon Smith Atkinson. [22:34] >> Please come forward. [22:37] >> Is this where we go? [22:38] This is my first time. [22:39] Good afternoon everybody. [22:41] I've got my notes so I can be concise. [22:44] Good afternoon everybody my name is Sharon Smith Atkinson [22:48] I represent the Ray McKenzie Group [22:49] and I'm here today on behalf of our hometown icons. [22:53] Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. [22:55] You may know that they are coming home to the State Fair [22:58] on August 29th for a celebration of the Minneapolis Sound. [23:02] They are bringing so many amazing artists with them, [23:06] it will be three hours of 50 to 60 hits, all made in Minnesota. [23:12] They were born and raised in Minnesota, [23:14] and we all know that we have the same goal of making sure [23:18] that we are doing tourism, we want [23:20] people to say amazing things about our city, amazing things [23:23] about our airport. [23:25] So I thought, since I was the one well it took seven years [23:30] but I was the one that put the mural up in downtown Minneapolis [23:32] for Prince, I just want to make sure that we don't forget. [23:36] That we have some awesome arts and culture and celebrities here [23:40] that love us. [23:41] And I just want to make sure that we treat them [23:44] and welcome them with respect that they deserve. [23:47] So, what I would like to do is simply [23:50] request an LED sign that says when they come home [23:56] welcome home Jimmy and Jerry. [23:58] They're also bringing 12 or 13 artists, [24:01] and I would like to request some gate access. [24:04] So in other words we have amazing carts, [24:08] maybe we can pick them up and drop them to baggage claim. [24:12] That's my ask. [24:13] What can we do to say welcome home Jimmy and Jerry? [24:18] And because of everything that they're doing at the State Fair [24:21] our great Minnesota get together was made in Minnesota. [24:25] That's my ask. [24:27] So I would like to just make Minneapolis Saint Paul Airport [24:31] the beginning of their welcome. [24:37] >> Thank you very much. [24:38] >> You're welcome. [24:39] >> The purpose of public comment is for people to share [24:41] their thoughts with the Commission, [24:43] it's a listen only mode. [24:46] When the CEO gets to his part, perhaps he [24:51] will want to say something. [24:53] But thank you very much for joining us today. [24:57] >> Thank you for having me. [24:59] >> You're welcome. [24:59] Okay we have no items either under public presentations [25:02] or hearings. [25:03] And I would invite the representative of the Met [25:07] Council and MnDOT to speak if they were here but they're not. [25:11] So we're going to move into the consent agenda. [25:14] The way I'm going to do it, is we [25:16] are going to work our way through this bit by bit. [25:20] And if any commissioner has a comment or question, [25:24] and we'll take it up. [25:26] If not we'll just keep moving through [25:29] and there will be a single vote at the end [25:34] if the commission so wishes to approve the consent agenda. [25:40] So the first items are approval of the minutes [25:43] of the full commission. [25:45] And there are reports and there are lease actions. [25:52] So that's at the full commission level. [25:55] I will pause there. [25:57] Any comments? [25:58] Questions? [25:59] Hearing none. [26:00] We will go on to the committees. [26:02] We will begin with planning, development, environment [26:06] Committee. [26:08] Which Chair Ginsburg leads. [26:13] And there's nothing much in open forum. [26:18] Its own consent report, they had both changed management [26:25] and authorizations and so forth. [26:29] Bids received, purchase approvals [26:33] and I'm going to pause there. [26:37] Any questions or comments? [26:39] Anything from the chair? [26:41] Okay. [26:42] Very important point is the business items. [26:47] And we already heard earlier about item 3.4. [26:54] The capital Improvement program amendment. [26:57] Which I think that the community felt. [26:59] We had made very good progress as an airport, [27:06] and we're showing what it means to be proper Minnesotans [27:12] and how we have handled that. [27:14] And I want to just thank the Chair for leading [27:18] that effort for the Commission. [27:20] I want to thank Brian and your team for that. [27:24] So, I've made my comments on the business [27:28] items, any other comments? [27:30] Rich? [27:32] >> Real quick on 3.4, I want to thank the chairs lead Brian [27:37] and staff and working with the drivers to get to a very solid [27:43] resolution that took a lot of time and effort. [27:46] So, thank you. [27:53] Thank you. [27:54] Anyone else? [27:55] Okay then we'll move on to O FNA and we [27:58] will begin with any questions from the open forum. [28:06] From the consent agenda. [28:12] From the business items? [28:16] I think one important one was 3.5 policy 2801 the Consultant [28:23] Policy. [28:24] This one which the committee and the commissioners [28:29] wrestled with, I think they have come to very good conclusion. [28:38] The version, which is in the papers for the meeting today [28:43] is the final version. [28:46] And I would then ask is there any questions? [28:50] Otherwise, hearing none, I'm going [28:53] to ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda. [28:59] >> Moved, [29:00] >> Second. [29:01] >> The motion has been moved and seconded. [29:03] Can we do a roll call? [29:05] Okay. [29:08] [Members voting] [29:29] >> Thank you all ladies and gentlemen. [29:31] There are no business items today. [29:32] But, we have a couple of very interesting and important [29:37] information items. [29:38] And we will begin with the airline industry [29:42] and MSP air service update presentation. [29:47] Welcome. [29:51] >> Thank you chair Lawrence good afternoon commissioners [29:53] I'm Brian Peters director of Air service development for the Mac, [29:56] and I'm happy to be here today to introduce our consulting team [29:59] from Asian Pacific Consulting Brad Furey and Oliver Lam who [30:04] will provide their annual update. [30:06] For new commissioners this is an update [30:08] they provide about once a year around this time of year. [30:11] Brad and Ali founded a consulting in 2009 [30:16] currently lead a team of about 14 professionals [30:18] that provide air service development [30:21] consulting for both airports and communities. [30:23] About 40 of them throughout the United States, Canada, [30:27] Australia, and I think New Zealand even. [30:30] So, with that I will hand it over to Ali, [30:32] and he will get going and we would [30:34] be happy to answer any questions that you may have [30:36] throughout the presentation. [30:43] Thank you Brian, Commissioner Lawrence and commissioners [30:47] thank you for having us here today. [30:49] It's always an honor to talk about this community. [30:53] What we're going to do today is we're [30:56] going to talk through four big areas of discussion. [30:58] First of all we're going to have a look at what [31:00] has happened in terms of our air service capacity [31:02] over the last 12 months, and put that into broader context. [31:06] And then Brad's going to talk to you [31:07] about what's happening in the broader industry [31:09] and how that affects us here in Minneapolis Saint Paul. [31:12] Then we are going to talk about our two wonderful hub carriers [31:15] at Hub Minneapolis and Saint Paul and what they're doing [31:18] and how they're evolving and how that's changing on the story. [31:20] And then finally I'm going to close off and talk to you [31:22] a little bit about the international trends [31:24] that we are seeing both nationwide and here [31:26] in Minneapolis Saint Paul. [31:27] And hopefully that will leave us with enough time [31:30] to get into some juicy questions at the end. [31:36] Excellent. [31:36] So what I'd like to start with is [31:40] to talk about what we've seen within the last 12 months [31:42] in terms of air service capacity. [31:44] What you can see on this chart is the comparison [31:47] of air service capacity for the last 12 months [31:49] versus the previous 12 months. [31:51] And this shows the whole calendar year of 2026 [31:53] versus 2025. [31:54] We have highlighted in blue, the Midwest hub airports, [31:58] and you can see there that Minneapolis Saint [32:00] Paul is sitting about 99.4% of 2025 capacity. [32:05] So 0.6% below where we were at in 2025. [32:10] You compare that to the right hand side [32:13] you can see that Detroit is sitting about 3 or 3.5% [32:16] below where it was in 2025. [32:17] And at the other end of the scale [32:19] you can see Chicago O'hare sitting at about 12% [32:22] above where it was in 2025. [32:24] The unique thing about what we are [32:26] seeing with the two airports that [32:28] are sitting in the far left hand side of this chart, Chicago, [32:30] O'hare, and San Diego, they are in the middle of a hub battle [32:34] between two airlines right now. [32:36] And that's meaning that we are seeing in Chicago [32:38] a record amount of growth from American Airlines in the United [32:41] Airlines as they battle it out in Chicago. [32:44] By contrast coming here in Minneapolis Saint Paul [32:47] we are seeing a pretty flat 2025 to 2026. [32:52] Let's dig a little deeper in terms of why that's happening. [32:56] Why are we seeing the flat trajectory [32:58] between 2025 and 2026? [33:00] On this slide we've broken it down [33:02] by airline to show you what's happened [33:04] at each of these airlines because they [33:05] are various stories going on. [33:07] On the far left hand side of this chart you can see [33:14] the United's added over 100 thousand seats frontier has [33:20] added 76,000 seats all up nearly 300,000 seats being added [33:25] in the Minneapolis Saint Paul Market. [33:27] On the right hand side you can see our biggest losers. [33:30] In red you can see for instance spirit which has pulled out [33:32] of not only Minneapolis Saint Paul but every market [33:34] in the country. [33:35] Spirit has gone bankrupt. [33:36] So it no longer operates anywhere [33:38] in the United States or anywhere in the world I should say. [33:41] You can also see sun country sun country reduced its capacity [33:45] here in Saint Paul by 176,000 seats and Brad will talk about [33:48] in more detail about what's happening in that space and what [33:50] we can expect going forward. [33:52] But you can see within that headline [33:55] story we are 0.6% below where we were in 2025. [33:58] There is a variety of different stories [34:00] depending on which airline you're talking about that [34:02] are going on beneath the surface. [34:03] And I would like you to remember the story [34:05] that we are seeing in 2026. [34:06] You can see Delta growing in some sun country contracting [34:10] because we will come back to that story later on. [34:13] And if we have a look a bit broader [34:16] and we look at a longer time period, [34:18] and we go back to pre-pandemic and where we were at [34:22] pre-pandemic, you can see here that the story is a little bit [34:25] different again. [34:26] Again are three Midwest hub is highlighted in blue. [34:28] You can see Minneapolis Saint Paul sitting [34:30] at 93% of where it was at in 2019, Detroit sitting about 19% [34:34] of where it was in 2019, and Chicago O'hare [34:37] which was until this year sitting line ball with us [34:40] in terms of growth has now grown by 12% thanks to that battle [34:45] that we are seeing in Chicago O'hare. [34:48] So you can see there's still room [34:49] to grow in terms of where we were at pre-pandemic to where [34:52] we are at today. [34:53] But again, beneath this story lies a really interesting story [34:56] between the different airlines. [34:57] So if you remember two slides ago [34:59] I showed you that Sun Country had actually contracted [35:02] over the last 12 months. [35:03] When we cast a wider view, since before the pandemic, [35:07] Sun Country has actually been the biggest contributor [35:10] to growth of any airline compared [35:13] to the pre-pandemic period. [35:15] By contrast, you can see excluding [35:17] spirit which has exited the market, [35:20] Delta still hasn't recovered in Minneapolis Saint Paul [35:22] so even though they are one of the fastest growing airlines [35:25] over the last 12 months, which is a really positive trend as we [35:28] look forward, they still haven't recovered to where they were at [35:31] pre-pandemic. [35:32] So the story does look different when we look at different time [35:35] scales in this regard. [35:37] On this slide I'd like to talk a little bit about what [35:40] makes this really unique compared [35:41] to some of those other hubs that we are talking about. [35:44] This chart shows the proportion of seats [35:47] that are operated by the largest carrier in each of these hub [35:52] markets. [35:52] As you can see in the far left end of this chart [35:55] you can see the hubs that are most dominated by one carrier. [35:58] Taking Charlotte at the very far extreme [36:00] to the left more than two thirds of it capacity [36:03] is provided by one American airline. [36:09] The shortest column shows the second largest carrier [36:13] in these markets. [36:13] What's really unique about Minneapolis-Saint Paul [36:16] and something that is a huge strength to this market [36:18] is that our number two carrier is proportionately stronger [36:22] than any of those other hubs to the left of us. [36:25] So those hubs which are dominated [36:26] by really strong number one carrier, [36:28] and we do have a very strong number one carrier in fact [36:31] it's the strongest number one financially in the industry, [36:35] it's also supported by a very strong number two in sun Country [36:39] that makes us unique and it's one of the key strengths [36:41] that Minneapolis-Saint Paul has. [36:43] And it's one of those charts that I showed you [36:45] before when Delta was growing Sun Country was contracting when [36:48] Sun Country was growing Delta was contracting, that strength [36:51] and diversification allows us to be really [36:54] strong hub in the Midwest. [36:55] And we've had some really good news this year. [36:59] This is a beautiful picture of our newest destination [37:01] that all of you will be able to fly to this winter. [37:03] Maui, which will now be a nonstop destination out [37:06] of Minneapolis Saint Paul which is a fantastic [37:08] addition to our network, even though it's [37:17] a domestic destination for all intents and purposes it is [37:21] an international because it uses an international aircraft, [37:25] it's going to be flying nonstop to Maui. [37:28] So at the end of this year we're going [37:29] to have 167 nonstop destinations. [37:33] Nearly closing in on our target of 170 destinations by 2027. [37:37] It'll be a race to the finish line to get to that 170 [37:40] but you can see here, we are really [37:43] closing in on that target with some really exciting wins [37:45] and we hope that by this time next year we [37:48] can report some exciting wins. [37:49] With that I'm going to hand it over to Brad. [37:52] >> Thanks. [37:53] So this year we want to talk a little bit more [37:55] about the industry in general, and what's going on. [37:58] Because what's happening externally from MSP [38:01] impacts MSP tremendously. [38:02] What we've seen over the last several years [38:05] is that the network carriers are driving all of the industry [38:08] profitability. [38:09] And that profitability is specifically [38:12] being driven by two carriers. [38:13] Delta and United. [38:15] If you look at this waterfall chart you see that $46 billion [38:19] of industry profits were made by Delta and United [38:23] out of a total of nearly 45.5 billion total. [38:27] Everybody else basically has netted out negatively. [38:30] There's a few carriers who are making money including Allegiant [38:33] and Sun Country. [38:34] But by the time you net it all out, [38:37] American and Delta basically account [38:39] for all of the industry's profits [38:40] over the last several years. [38:42] So why is that? [38:44] What's happened in the low fare category that's caused [38:47] those carriers to underperform? [38:49] Let me go back real quick. [38:50] All the carriers that are in green [38:52] would be classified as low fare carriers. [38:54] Three of those are negative, we know [38:56] spirit went out of business, Jetblue [38:57] is suffering tremendously Jetblue has been suffering [39:00] tremendously, the only profitable carriers [39:04] were Allegiant and Sun Country. [39:06] So what happened here? [39:07] If you look at the last ten years [39:08] you'll see that real GDP grew 126%, [39:10] but low fare capacity by those types of carriers grew 136%. [39:14] So they outgrew the economy. [39:17] They got real real aggressive on growth. [39:19] They put a lot of seats in the market [39:21] and they outgrew the demand. [39:24] Meanwhile the network carriers were much more conservative [39:28] Pierce the network carriers have managed their capacity [39:30] to demand much better. [39:32] And how does that translate into the real world? [39:35] You see here the green are the average domestic one way [39:39] fare for a low fare carrier. [39:41] In 2025 $74. [39:43] This was pre taxed one way. [39:46] The average was 188 in the network [39:48] carriers were getting 229. [39:50] Well a low fare carrier it should [39:52] have low fares that's great at 60 to 65% lower [39:55] than the network carriers. [39:57] The problem here is that with those lower fares [40:00] they were able to achieve a really strong position [40:04] in the market. [40:05] They grew to be 12% of the industry. [40:07] Today they are down to nine. [40:09] And that's partly spirit going out, [40:11] it's partly frontier scaling back. [40:14] But overall, that segment is shrinking. [40:17] And the reason it's shrinking is basically network carriers [40:20] won the battle. [40:23] If you look at what happened with the Ulcc, [40:25] the ultra low cost carrier model, [40:27] you see the competitive changes on the left. [40:29] This is where network carriers discovered they could [40:32] offer a basic economy fare. [40:35] Basically the same fare that you would get on a frontier spirit [40:45] you get the quality of service associated with that. [40:48] So people started voting, you get [40:50] the same fare are you going to get fly spirit or Delta. [40:53] So that started to happen. [40:54] Also the network carriers brand won out [40:56] they started bundling packages together [40:58] they just offered a better product with more choices. [41:00] You have a lot more options when you fly a network carrier [41:03] than you do a low fare carrier. [41:06] We also saw the impact of the carrier economy [41:09] where the top part of the economy we're [41:13] doing better than people are in the lower ends [41:16] people who had been flying couldn't [41:19] afford to fly how they did in the first few years out [41:22] of the pandemic. [41:22] And I already mentioned the fact that the low fare carriers [41:25] Overexpanded. [41:25] At the same time this was happening [41:28] they were losing on the revenue side [41:30] with the competitive changes. [41:31] At the same time their costs were converging. [41:35] They had aging fleets that needed more maintenance. [41:37] The honeymoon of having brand new airplanes you all [41:40] know that when your warranty runs out [41:41] on your new car that's basically what was happening here. [41:44] At the same time, their pilots and flight attendants [41:48] fly the same airplanes, they want the same wages. [41:51] It's a competitive labor market. [41:57] All of a sudden their pilots are getting paid the same or roughly [42:00] the same as the network carriers. [42:02] There was some issues with engine durability [42:05] that I won't get into. [42:06] But basically what you can see the cost advantage that low fare [42:10] carriers had has dissipated. [42:11] They still have one. [42:13] But it's not as big as it used to be. [42:16] In the meantime the network carriers [42:18] have a lot more opportunity to generate more revenue. [42:21] So the equation just changed. [42:23] Now network carriers hold a very strong advantage. [42:26] And we see where consolidation has happened. [42:29] The biggest consolidation move in the industry [42:31] in the last few years is happening right here. [42:34] With allegiance acquisition of Sun Country. [42:36] And you can see the 72 there sun country over there was [42:42] responsible for 12,000 seats a day, [42:47] you add that into the Allegiant thing you're at 74,000 seats [42:51] but you can still see the scale of those low fare carriers. [42:55] Spirit is out come everybody else is [42:57] a bit player you've got frontier and Jetblue, they are bigger. [43:01] But they're not that big. [43:02] So you really see this consolidation. [43:04] We consider southwest to be a network carrier now [43:07] comet's repositioning itself to be more similar to the big three [43:11] than a low cost carrier anymore. [43:12] So you can really see how the network carriers have basically [43:17] won this battle. [43:19] So how does that impact us here? [43:22] Fortunately at MSP, not all low fare carriers are created equal. [43:25] In the two best as I mentioned the profitability last year [43:28] they were the only profitable low fare carriers, [43:31] this past quarter Allegiant, which [43:34] has the sun country numbers built into it now, [43:38] because they are one company, was the most profitable airline [43:42] in the margin basis in the country. [43:44] Just slightly beating Delta. [43:45] So we've got a good base here. [43:47] And the reason that that's important [43:50] is Sun Country had a limited opportunity to grow [43:53] and you have to grow in the industry [43:55] to keep your costs in check. [43:57] Sun Country was painted into a corner [44:01] more or less in terms of what it could do. [44:03] So what it did, as it put itself up for sale basically. [44:06] In the one airline that is the best match for Sun [44:09] Country is the one that bought it. [44:11] So now you have two airlines that have very similar business [44:14] model. [44:15] Really the only difference is the philosophy of the routes [44:19] that they fly in that all of Sun Country's routes [44:22] were originating here, going south. [44:24] Whereas most of the allegiant's routes were south going north. [44:27] From smaller markets. [44:29] But overall, a very complimentary marriage. [44:35] And he said this several times publicly, [44:38] but it's really important to reiterate. [44:40] Without MSP, sun country was not relevant to Allegiant. [44:44] The reason that they were buying MSP or buying [44:47] Sun Country in the first place was [44:48] to get access to this market. [44:50] It's not for the charter program, [44:51] it's not for their Amazon contract, [44:53] they could get that on their own if they wanted it. [44:55] Allegiant is a very very focused carrier, [44:58] they are very successful. [44:59] They wanted MSP for the Twin Cities market. [45:03] And that's important to understand, [45:05] they're not going to give it up just because there's [45:07] been a merger. [45:08] That's why they bought it in the first place. [45:10] And if you look at MSP today is the largest station [45:13] in the combined airline's network. [45:15] The rest of them are all Florida and Arizona basically Las Vegas. [45:20] Those are all destination markets. [45:22] Even though MSP is a very different kind [45:24] of market, the customer, the passenger [45:27] is the same kind of passenger. [45:29] The passenger that sun country flies out of here [45:32] is the same kind of person that Allegiant [45:35] is flying in its network. [45:37] You're going on vacation come you're going for a long weekend [45:40] someplace, for a bachelorette party [45:42] or, you're going down to visit Grandma and Grandpa in Florida. [45:46] Whatever it is, it's a very similar customer. [45:49] So that's a good combination, but MSP [45:52] will be the biggest airport in the system probably [45:55] for the foreseeable future. [45:57] Moving on to Delta Delta is growing in MSP slowly, [46:01] but its current focus is not here. [46:04] They still remain the second largest hub, [46:06] growing slightly just 0.5%. [46:10] It's important here to note, that the hubs [46:14] in red, Minneapolis, Detroit, Atlanta, and Salt Lake [46:18] are referred to as the core hubs. [46:19] All of the other hubs are coastal hubs and that's probably [46:23] pretty self-explanatory. [46:24] But this is where their hubs are and where they are investing. [46:28] And we will get into a little bit of why [46:30] that's important in a minute. [46:31] Oh, here it is right here. [46:32] So, delta has spent the last several years [46:36] investing in what some people call once in a lifetime [46:38] opportunity spirit with all of the things that are shaking out [46:40] in the industry, Delta has an opportunity [46:43] because of its strength to go into these very very constrained [46:47] markets in the Northeast and the Pacific coast [46:51] and carve out real estate. [46:54] And to make a claim for longer term presence in those markets. [46:59] And they've done that by adding a lot of capacity [47:01] and investing a lot in facilities in the coast. [47:04] There is a limited opportunity for them to do that. [47:07] These airports are filling up some of them are full today [47:10] and there's not new growth happening anytime soon at most [47:13] of these airports. [47:14] So it's sort of a land grab if you [47:15] want to think of it that way. [47:16] In the meantime, the core hubs have not [47:19] been invested in, primarily because it [47:22] isn't as important right now. [47:24] They can come back to all of the core hubs at any point. [47:27] There's not a significant competitive pressure [47:30] that's requiring them to attend to them today. [47:33] So they are investing in those coastal hubs [47:36] while they can to set themselves up for success in the long run. [47:42] You can look at year over year the growth [47:46] has been primarily in the coastal hubs. [47:48] But like I said, those hubs are reaching their capacity limits [47:51] there's not a lot of growth at JFK or Laguardia [47:53] up here at Once that's complete they'll have to return growth [48:07] to the core hubs. [48:08] Which by the way, finance the growth in the coastal hubs. [48:15] Stepping back and just taking a look at where they are today, [48:18] MSP is the third largest originating market for Delta, [48:22] these are passages not connecting here. [48:26] But passengers who live here or who [48:28] are traveling to the Twin Cities it's the third largest hub here [48:31] it was at 0.2 million to 11.1 million, [48:35] while connections were down just a little bit from 10.5 to 10.3 [48:39] million but it's still the second largest connecting hub [48:41] as well in the network. [48:43] We know in the past there has been concern [48:48] about the ratio of local versus connecting passengers, [48:52] and we've seen that, we talked about this last year. [48:55] Last year it was 49% connecting. [48:56] Off of a base a decade ago of about 60%. [49:01] It went down just a little bit one [49:03] more percentage point this last year. [49:04] But you'll note, it's very similar between to Detroit [49:08] and Salt Lake which are the two hubs that [49:10] are closest in size for Delta. [49:12] Very similar situation. [49:14] We've seen that not just with Delta but most [49:17] of the other airline hubs. [49:18] The major hubs have all pretty much [49:21] seen a declining share of connecting traffic over time. [49:23] That's partly due to the fact that there's not [49:26] a lot of nonstop service available on couriers [49:28] like Allegiant. [49:29] So people who used to fly out of Duluth going to Florida, [49:33] over MSP, a lot of them are flying nonstop now. [49:37] This isn't a bad thing. [49:38] Delta is doing great here so it's not a bad thing, [49:41] it's just how the traffic has balanced. [49:44] And we will note that this year MSP will be the ninth busiest [49:48] connecting hub in the country. [49:49] Which when you consider that MSP is the 22nd largest owned [49:53] market, demand market basically and the 16th largest MSA is [49:58] still very very well positioned for the long run we don't see [50:03] any particular challenges to that. [50:07] >> Things give the guy with the accent the international markets [50:10] to deal with. [50:11] Perfect. [50:11] Awesome. [50:11] So I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what [50:14] we are seeing in terms of an international context [50:16] because I think it's really important that we focus [50:18] on this because it's going to inform some of the conversations [50:20] that we will be having with you over the next 12 months [50:23] in terms of what's changing. [50:24] On this slide we are looking at the two big components [50:27] of international demand. [50:28] Those components are Americans who travel abroad, [50:32] and visitors who come to the United States. [50:34] So in the dark blue you can see those Americans [50:36] who are traveling abroad. [50:38] People who buy their tickets here in the United States [50:40] to travel abroad. [50:41] In light blue you can see the visitors [50:43] coming to the United States. [50:44] What we saw between 2024 and the start of 2025 [50:48] was that both were growing, in fact visitation [50:50] to the United States was growing really strongly and up 10% year [50:53] over year. [50:54] Then something happened in January 2025 [50:56] we can all speculate what. [50:58] And we can see what happened. [51:00] Outbound demand from the United States Americans traveling [51:03] abroad continued to grow, but visitation into the United [51:06] States fell off. [51:07] And so what that has translated to is [51:10] if you talk to the different airlines, [51:11] the U.S. Carriers are saying our international demand is looking [51:15] good because they predominantly sell to Americans traveling [51:19] abroad, however when we talk to foreign carriers [51:22] the foreign carriers who's traveling to Saint Paul [51:24] they're saying the opposite they're [51:26] saying it's not looking good, and that's [51:28] all being driven by this falling off [51:29] a cliff of the international demand coming into the United [51:32] States. [51:33] And when we dig a little bit deeper [51:34] and we look at this on an individual market base [51:36] across the United States, since that inflection [51:39] point of January 2025. [51:40] We have broken down each of the top 25 United States markets [51:43] to see what that's meant from a visitation [51:45] into the United States perspective. [51:47] Some markets, a few markets have performed well. [51:50] Dallas, Honolulu, Orlando, although I [51:53] will note that some of those markets [51:54] didn't do very well during the pandemic. [51:56] And the overall United States average [51:58] from visitation into the United States [52:00] fell by 4.3% since that inflection point [52:03] in January of 2025. [52:04] Here at MSP we saw that drop 7%. [52:07] So worse than the national average. [52:09] We've heard that time and time again [52:11] from our foreign flag carriers. [52:13] The negative press particularly over this past winter [52:16] that Minneapolis Saint Paul got and many foreign markets really [52:20] impacted the perception of Minneapolis Saint [52:22] Paul in those markets. [52:24] People chose not to come because of what they saw on TV. [52:27] That is a problem that we have to battle. [52:29] That is a problem outside of our wheelhouse [52:30] but it is a problem that we have to battle nonetheless. [52:33] So that will inform the conversations [52:35] that we have with our airlines. [52:36] Over time we hope that those memories will fade away [52:39] and hopefully people will come back. [52:41] That's our goal. [52:43] But that is the context in which we are operating. [52:46] And with that, we would just like to summarize and close out. [52:49] And I think there's a couple of things that are really [52:51] important to remember. [52:52] The fundamentals here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota [52:55] are really strong. [52:56] We have an incredible hub carrier [52:58] in Delta come one of the strongest [53:00] airlines in the industry, we have [53:01] the only consistently profitable low cost carrier [53:05] as Brad talked about merging with the most [53:07] profitable low cost carrier in the industry. [53:10] That's an incredible position for us to have. [53:12] We have an incredible community that [53:14] is driving this ongoing growth and demand [53:17] whether it's from a perspective of outbound travel, [53:19] or from a connecting perspective. [53:21] We are very close to our 2027 target, [53:26] we have tempered our expectations here [53:28] because we don't want to over bake the cake on this one. [53:31] But we do want to get close to that 2027 target of 170 [53:35] nonstop destinations. [53:36] Our low fare carrier economics are changing. [53:40] They have been challenged significantly [53:42] over the last couple of years. [53:44] But nonetheless Minneapolis-Saint Paul [53:46] is positioned better than anybody else [53:48] to cope with that transition as low cost carriers transition [53:52] and we merge the two strongest couriers in that space. [53:56] And what's also really interesting [53:58] is looking at how Delta is growing. [53:59] Delta has prioritized those coastal hubs [54:02] as Brad talked about, but the time [54:04] will come when those coastal hubs have closed out, [54:06] their full, and delta will turn its attention [54:09] back to the core hubs that generate [54:10] the profit that MSP and the other core hubs [54:13] have demonstrated. [54:14] And with that we would like to open the floor up for questions. [54:18] >> Thank you Mr. Chair, I want to go back to the comment about [54:22] what transpired in Minneapolis Saint Paul. [54:26] And if I heard this right, that had a very significant impact [54:32] on foreign travel here. [54:35] Do we have the facts and figures to back up [54:39] what the perception was of foreign travelers? [54:43] Was it any certain issue? [54:45] Was it any particular reason? [54:48] That we can cite? [54:50] Because that's a pretty broad statement. [54:53] Because I've been hearing it in a lot of different ways [54:57] and different groups using it. [54:58] So I would like to get a sense of what you see. [55:02] >> That's a wonderful question Commissioner Ginsberg. [55:04] Maybe I can paraphrase what one airline said to us. [55:07] They pulled up the front page of the German newspaper [55:09] and they said when you search Minneapolis Saint [55:13] Paul in the German newspaper look at what you see? [55:15] To be fair this was in March of this year [55:18] and it was a particularly sensitive time, [55:20] but they said people don't want to travel to somewhere where [55:22] they feel like there are rights and the streets. [55:24] That was the perception. [55:26] We obviously challenged that perception [55:28] and said that's obviously you know only part of the story [55:31] and that the Twin Cities in Minnesota has a lot to offer. [55:34] And I think certainly the conversations are definitely [55:37] changing now because that sensitive period has changed. [55:40] But to answer your question directly, [55:42] the reality was the Ice agents in the streets [55:47] was the real problem that people saw in foreign >> Wonderful. [55:54] So whatever the event was in January 2025? [55:56] Will that continue to be a negative now that the surge [56:01] issue seems to be I'm just trying [56:05] to get a sense of how much more we could look forward to losing. [56:11] >> Look I wish I had a crystal ball Commissioner Ginsberg [56:13] to tell you what was going to happen over the next 12 months. [56:15] But our hope, and certainly the tenor of the conversations [56:18] that we are having now is that things are certainly improving [56:22] from a perception basis. [56:23] We hope that continues. [56:25] We don't want to go back to I don't [56:27] think anybody in this community wants to go back to what [56:29] we saw this past winter. [56:30] And I certainly think the airline cares shares [56:34] the same impact same opinion. [56:38] >> I think it's fair to share if we get back to the level [56:41] of every other U.S. Destination would be great, [56:44] but the bar has gone higher, however you want to say it. [56:47] But everything has gotten much worse overall [56:49] for the whole country. [56:50] So we have to be realistic about what [56:53] the foreign demand for travel to the United States is. [57:09] >> Coming from a community that's been targeted, [57:11] I think ice does have a really huge impact. [57:14] You have Ice in your policies right? [57:16] So coming from higher education, even international students [57:20] are not coming. [57:21] And I think there was a newspaper article today [57:26] in the Forbes magazine about the declining international students [57:31] and the impact on revenue with college and universities. [57:34] Many of the colleges rely heavily [57:36] on international students from India [57:38] from China and from other places. [57:41] So the ice raid I would call it, we basically scared them away. [57:50] The other thing is I think even with the recent policy directive [57:55] from Washington D.C. They were focused on African nations. [58:01] Visas. [58:02] Where you have to deposit $20,000 in order to do that so I [58:08] think it's these series of not only just ice, [58:11] but also policies that can have an impact. [58:13] My mother in law wanted to travel to France, [58:17] and we didn't want her to go, but she wanted to go. [58:22] So she's over there now, she's coming back in the conversation [58:25] that I had with my wife yesterday was [58:27] I'm afraid that she might be detained on the way back. [58:31] Even though she's a United States citizen. [58:32] So it's that kind of fear that I think is preventing people. [58:37] You don't want to find out. [58:40] What's going to happen. [58:41] But, I think that's really affecting a lot of these. [58:46] >> We've heard it from multiple international airlines, [58:48] that just the sentiment, like we have conversations with them. [58:53] They're very concerned about the demand [58:56] from foreign points of sale to the U.S. [59:00] And we are seeing that in real world. [59:03] >> Also Commissioner to validate what you're saying, [59:06] we're also hearing from communities of interest [59:08] in the Twin Cities who are U.S. Citizens who don't want [59:10] to travel to their homeland because they're worried about [59:13] whether they can come back much like what you're expressing. [59:15] So what you are saying we hear absolutely. [59:19] >> It's impacting air service around the country. [59:22] For the first time in a long time [59:23] we're starting to see foreign carriers suspend U.S. Routes. [59:28] We hadn't really seen much of that for several years. [59:31] They're starting to pull back a little bit now. [59:34] So that is impacting close to home as well. [59:38] >> Other comments or questions? [59:40] Yes? [59:45] >> Thank you Mr. Chair. [59:46] I was just curious if you see a time Allegiant they've canceled [59:49] like 33% of their flights. [59:51] How long is this going to >> Our conversation with them, [59:58] it's not going to be a long term thing. [1:00:00] Whenever you have a merger, the union contracts [1:00:04] for the pilots in particular which [1:00:06] is a very transferable skill, they become an issue. [1:00:10] If you were at the bottom of a seniority [1:00:12] list going into a merger. [1:00:14] It's a good time to make a change [1:00:17] if the opportunity exists. [1:00:19] While all of that is happening, Delta [1:00:22] has been going through a pretty major hiring phase on pilots. [1:00:26] Two different things, coincidence [1:00:28] it happened at the same time and as you [1:00:30] can imagine if you're an MSP based [1:00:31] pilot is going to be at the bottom of a combined seniority [1:00:35] list and Delta is hiring, you might take a look. [1:00:40] So that's been part of it. [1:00:41] It's only part of it. [1:00:44] Sun country always pulls back in September [1:00:48] so that's also pretty typical. [1:00:49] From the indications we've gotten you know they're hiring. [1:00:53] They're bringing people into their classes [1:00:54] they'll get back up here Allegiant actually [1:00:56] has a bit of a pilot surplus right now. [1:00:59] So once they actually merge the operating certificates [1:01:02] and can start cross-training pilots and moving them around, [1:01:05] they shouldn't have a problem. [1:01:07] Allegiant's never really had a problem attracting pilots. [1:01:09] Being a profitable airline is a very very attractive place [1:01:14] for a pilot to land. [1:01:15] Because you know we just saw what happened to spirit, [1:01:18] and those guys are going to be at the bottom of all [1:01:20] of the seniority lists looking for new jobs now. [1:01:22] So it will sort itself out. [1:01:24] But it is a little bit of a problem at the moment for sure. [1:01:27] >> Okay thank you. [1:01:29] >> Any other questions or comments? [1:01:30] Thank you very much. [1:01:32] It's been a very useful presentation. [1:01:34] Thanks for the very good work. [1:01:37] Now, before we move on to the agenda, [1:01:40] there have been some late arriving [1:01:43] people wishing to speak. [1:01:45] And I'm going to just, I believe you all [1:01:50] are affiliated with the SEIU? [1:01:52] I want to give you the opportunity either individually [1:01:56] or as a pair or a triple. [1:02:02] I have the names. [1:02:04] I apologize for mispronouncing. -- [1:02:23] I believe I have two for you. [1:02:25] So I may have missed somebody. [1:02:26] So is there anyone who would care to speak, [1:02:29] please come forward. [1:02:30] We've got your cards I hope. [1:02:55] >> Hello to the Commission, thank you for the chance [1:02:57] to speak with you today. [1:02:58] My name is Abdurrahman, I drive for Uber and Lyft serving [1:03:05] customers here at the MSP, I'm a member of SEIU. [1:03:12] Local 26. [1:03:13] I'm here to speak about the proposal [1:03:16] to build permanent restrooms. [1:03:19] In the driver's waiting area. [1:03:23] I think it's something good. [1:03:25] Drivers have been struggling for a long time. [1:03:28] The first bathrooms we had were outside portables [1:03:32] that were very hot during the summer and cold [1:03:35] during the winter. [1:03:40] I want to thank the MSP for improving the bathrooms that [1:03:45] have been running water and the drivers washing their hands, [1:03:54] I want to thank the members of the leaders of Siu look [1:03:58] who have kept standing together with the drivers [1:04:00] and other workers, we have come here together so many times, [1:04:06] along with the bathrooms which was appreciated, [1:04:09] but drivers also need a waiting area [1:04:11] where we can escape the heat and cold [1:04:14] without running our engines. [1:04:17] This will be a place where drivers could stay while we [1:04:24] wait to serve customers nearby. [1:04:27] I want to share my things with the union and everyone who [1:04:31] is working to make the drivers lives better. [1:04:34] Thank you so much. [1:04:37] >> Thank you sir. [1:04:38] I believe there is Mark Sharif who wishes [1:04:42] to speak is that correct? [1:04:43] Please come forward. [1:04:45] Thank you. [1:04:54] >> Thank you my name is Mohamed Sharif. [1:04:55] I have been driving Uber and Lyft since 2023, [1:05:01] I moved from Boston. [1:05:07] I didn't drive Uber and Lyft in Boston [1:05:10] but I drove taxi and limousine. [1:05:14] And I think the union for this opportunity [1:05:17] to come in front of you. [1:05:20] The gentleman before me we really [1:05:27] appreciate the permanent bathroom in the waiting area. [1:05:34] In addition, even 15ft place as a waiting place it would [1:05:47] wouldn't be necessary for us to run the engine in idle [1:05:51] in the waiting area. [1:05:57] We ask if you can add that into the proposal [1:06:01] and also in addition to that the Uber and Lyft pick up [1:06:06] area inside the airport. [1:06:14] We think very well organized direct customers and drivers [1:06:20] in moving lane and also for parking. [1:06:22] But. [1:06:23] Our experience for security customer [1:06:28] when they come to the airport. [1:06:30] They are eagle to eager to get out of the airport [1:06:34] and to get their car and to move on. [1:06:37] So many times customers come to the airport [1:06:41] and get out and just cross the line. [1:06:46] And go to the back to get their car. [1:06:51] And that creates very risky , and in front I have experience [1:07:00] in Boston people dying in that case. [1:07:04] If we put the additional sign directing people [1:07:08] not to cross the lane the moving lane, [1:07:14] and also the elevator is in front of the a. [1:07:19] And number A is on a. [1:07:22] So people are crowded in zone A all the time [1:07:26] and now the drivers have a lot of traffic [1:07:28] to get in front of the customer. [1:07:30] So if we put the sign, they can move to B or C, [1:07:39] direct to the customer. [1:07:40] Then that would be helpful. [1:07:41] Thank you. [1:07:44] >> Thank you very much. [1:07:47] Again I've had a number of these cards come up, some of them [1:07:49] are duplicates. [1:07:50] So I think I've called on everybody who wishes [1:07:53] to speak in the public forum? [1:07:55] If so, let's move down to Alice and Kelly [1:08:00] with an update on the Mac labor agreements. [1:08:10] >> Hello. [1:08:11] Good afternoon. [1:08:19] All right. [1:08:22] I'm Allison Kelly, I'm the labor and employee relations [1:08:27] manager for the Mac, chair and commissioners [1:08:31] I'm happy to be here. [1:08:32] As the last of our Mac labor agreements were approved today, [1:08:35] and also to give you an information session summarizing [1:08:39] the conclusion of our Mac bargaining season. [1:08:45] This was my first round of negotiations here at the Mac. [1:08:49] With these Mac groups. [1:08:53] There have also been several new commissioners [1:08:55] who have joined us along the way as these contracts have settled. [1:08:58] I'm hoping this is good information sharing [1:09:00] and everybody gets a good grasp of what we did [1:09:04] and where we are at today and what we have to look forward to. [1:09:08] So, let me -- let me give you some summary here. [1:09:13] We have about 826 permanent employees who work for the Mac. [1:09:18] About half of those are employees [1:09:20] who are represented by a labor union. [1:09:22] We have a total of 13 labor contracts. [1:09:25] All of our Mac's permanent employees [1:09:28] are defined as public employees, and the collective bargaining [1:09:32] process is governed by the Minnesota public Labor Relations [1:09:36] Act and para. [1:09:38] Under State statute chapter 179 a. [1:09:42] So the Mac employees that work in and around [1:09:44] the MSP airport and campus as well as our six reliever [1:09:48] airports. [1:09:51] Sometimes it gets confusing we have [1:09:54] Mac folks intertwined with a lot of other MSP employees. [1:09:57] So com a total of 13 contracts, let's break that down. [1:10:01] I'm going to break it down by the expiration time, [1:10:04] so we have eight contracts that expire December 31st of 2025. [1:10:07] So the eight tend to expire at the end of the year. [1:10:11] Or every three years. [1:10:13] And during our negotiation period, [1:10:16] those eight expire first, and then those groups begin [1:10:23] negotiating in late summer or early fall, [1:10:25] and they kind of work through the process however long each [1:10:28] 1st May take. [1:10:29] We have our International Union of Operating Engineers local 70, [1:10:34] we have our firefighters driver operators [1:10:36] fire captains, battalion chiefs, our emergency communications [1:10:41] specialist, those are like our 911 dispatch folks. [1:10:44] We have police officers, police sergeants [1:10:46] come a place youth tenants, and our international local [1:10:50] operators 49, those are the eight that [1:10:51] expire at the end of the year. [1:10:53] Then we have our three that expire in the spring and April. [1:10:57] The same as April of 2026. [1:11:02] And we typically start meeting with those folks [1:11:05] in early February or March, sometimes [1:11:07] there's a little bit of overlap. [1:11:09] Those are all completed. [1:11:11] And most of those happened pretty close to on time. [1:11:15] Which is good. [1:11:16] We have one contract that expires June 30th, [1:11:18] we just approved that one you did your final approval on that [1:11:21] one today. [1:11:21] And then we have one last one, a trades group that expires April [1:11:26] 30th of 2027. [1:11:28] The reason that last trades contract is a little different [1:11:31] is because we pay the outside total package [1:11:37] rate for those plumbers. [1:11:38] So we've lined up their time, to line up with our outside plumber [1:11:42] contract. [1:11:43] So, some of our major highlights from negotiations, [1:11:47] we have our 2026 wage increase of three and a half, [1:11:51] our 2027 wage increase of 3% in 2028 and our 3.5% wage increase. [1:11:56] So all of our represented folks are [1:11:58] going to receive those wage increases. [1:12:00] We did do market adjustments where [1:12:03] warranted by analysis about five bargaining units [1:12:06] were impacted by that. [1:12:07] We did achieve consistency of observed holidays, [1:12:10] and when floating holidays are used by across the Mac [1:12:13] we kind of had a mish mash of different dates [1:12:16] so it's nice to have that all consistent. [1:12:18] We had numerous changes to our leave of absence language [1:12:20] to comply with recent state legislation for sick [1:12:24] and leave time. [1:12:26] And Family medical leave and lining those up [1:12:28] with policies and the Mac's approach [1:12:30] to those various leaves. [1:12:32] We had our East weather exemption language, [1:12:35] and we had our vacation accrual process, [1:12:40] so every unionized group and Mac employee will [1:12:42] have had their opportunity to do that process by the end [1:12:46] of this calendar year. [1:12:48] We also achieved some compliance with our health care savings [1:12:51] plan accounts based on how Msrs prefers that we structure those, [1:12:56] so we made some really good achievements, [1:12:59] you know, the unions primarily have various economic proposals [1:13:02] common in this round of negotiations [1:13:04] there's a fair amount of language proposals. [1:13:07] Mostly due to a lot of legislative changes. [1:13:09] And we were able to work through all [1:13:10] of those items for each of the different groups really [1:13:13] successfully. [1:13:16] So, gratitude and what's next. [1:13:19] I think in my role, which I think sometimes [1:13:22] isn't always viewed as the most favorite person in the room. [1:13:28] I think it's really important to show gratitude, [1:13:31] because the work that we do together [1:13:34] is a lot it's intense work. [1:13:37] And it's sensitive. [1:13:39] And it has to do with the livelihood of our employees. [1:13:43] So I want to just take a minute to give my gratitude. [1:13:48] The negotiation process is long. [1:13:51] It takes a lot of people to successfully work through it [1:13:54] all. [1:13:54] I want to -- there's a lot of people to thank through this [1:13:59] process. [1:13:59] So first, each and every union Steward and representative [1:14:04] who engaged in the negotiations this round, [1:14:07] I give my gratitude and appreciation. [1:14:09] Many of our contrasts face some challenging topics, [1:14:12] whether it was the state imposed changes, compensation structure [1:14:16] changes, holidays, there was really [1:14:18] no issue too small or too big for us [1:14:20] to tackle collaboratively. [1:14:22] The union stewards put their time and efforts [1:14:24] into this process, and it does not go unnoticed. [1:14:27] I also want to thank the department representatives who [1:14:29] sat at each table with me, it was a time consuming process, [1:14:32] they each had other competing priorities, [1:14:34] but they made thoughtful and creative contributions [1:14:37] and they took time to ensure that I understood [1:14:39] their operations and their needs to make bargaining [1:14:42] productive and transparent. [1:14:43] Which is really critical for the success of bargaining. [1:14:47] I want to acknowledge the fellow comrades in HR and finance, [1:14:51] the Business partners coordinators [1:14:53] benefits team payroll team, all of their work [1:14:55] through the bargaining process and implementing these changes. [1:14:57] No matter what I do at the table, [1:14:59] they have to help me implement it and work it through. [1:15:02] So their work is critical. [1:15:03] And lastly I want to appreciate or highlight my appreciation [1:15:07] for Kathy McGarry, Vice President of Human Resources [1:15:10] and Labor Relations. [1:15:12] Her support and leadership along with the executive team [1:15:15] helped set the tone with the labor groups, [1:15:17] they've been really clear communicators with me [1:15:19] about their expectations with my role [1:15:21] as I engage with labor throughout this process, [1:15:23] this is an organization that cares about its employees, [1:15:26] and that starts at the top with Brian. [1:15:28] And it's obvious, and it shows up at the bargaining table. [1:15:31] If you've ever negotiated a labor contract [1:15:33] or had the privilege to even be close to the universe [1:15:36] of negotiating a labor contract, you [1:15:38] know it can easily become contentious and frustrations [1:15:41] escalate. [1:15:42] That isn't to say that each table this round was easy [1:15:45] or that people didn't get frustrated, [1:15:47] but overall, everyone was respectful, [1:15:50] people took time to listen to each other, [1:15:52] and while that may seem like a very common sense approach, [1:15:55] it surely is an easy thing to take for granted. [1:15:58] But it does make a world of difference in the process. [1:16:01] So, given that everyone is asking me what's next! [1:16:05] What do we do? [1:16:08] So we really do have to finalize the implementation of all [1:16:10] of these agreements. [1:16:11] There is quite a bit of work to do [1:16:12] on that on the back end that's kind of invisible. [1:16:15] And then we monitor for the mid changes, [1:16:18] we did a lot of things in the out years [1:16:20] so we have to make sure that those things get completed. [1:16:22] We continue, I will do information sharing sessions [1:16:26] with departments to make sure that everybody understands [1:16:29] how to administer the contract. [1:16:30] And then we just continue to work through that process [1:16:33] with key partners. [1:16:35] We will get back to our regular management committees, [1:16:37] and maintain good consistent communication [1:16:39] with our labor groups. [1:16:40] And then just general continued labor relations [1:16:43] program administration, addressing issues [1:16:45] as they arise throughout the contract period. [1:16:47] There's never really a shortage of something to work on. [1:16:50] And then, in the spring we will start negotiations [1:16:53] with the United Association of Plumbers Local 34 [1:16:55] so you will get a break from me until about then. [1:16:59] But that's kind of the big thing ahead. [1:17:04] I appreciate your time and support, [1:17:07] and understanding this process. [1:17:09] I think that's important for our employees to know and hear. [1:17:12] I think that's important for you all to know in here as well. [1:17:15] The Mac works because we all put the work in to do it [1:17:18] and we are successful. [1:17:19] So thank you for your time. [1:17:20] I will stand for any questions or I'll just [1:17:24] be so good that I'll just go. [1:17:27] >> Allison thank you so much and I think I can speak [1:17:29] for the whole commission when I express express appreciation [1:17:33] just as you have done to all of the people who enabled us to get [1:17:37] these agreements settled in a fair, equitable, [1:17:42] and speedy and transparent manner. [1:17:43] So thank you. [1:17:45] Are there any questions? [1:17:47] Commissioner? [1:17:49] >> Same. [1:17:50] I mean this was your first shot come you hit the grand slam. [1:17:53] So congratulations. [1:17:54] My question is if the legislature changes, [1:17:58] paid family leave or sick save time, [1:18:01] does that impact contracts? [1:18:06] >> Yes it certainly can. [1:18:07] It really depends on what those changes may be. [1:18:09] I think we try really hard when we [1:18:12] reach agreements on topics like that under state [1:18:17] leave to leave ourselves enough flexibility where [1:18:19] if the legislature tweaks a thing or two [1:18:22] then we can kind of work it in with the agreement that we have. [1:18:26] But there is certainly, I mean in the last 5 to 7 years [1:18:29] there has been more legislative changes that affect employers [1:18:33] than we have seen in probably 20 years. [1:18:35] So, sometimes we have to do supplemental modifications, [1:18:39] clarifications, so, it can. [1:18:42] It just depends on what it is really. [1:18:46] >> Thank you. [1:18:48] >> Other questions and comments? [1:18:49] Yes? [1:18:52] >> Hi, I just want to thank you. [1:18:53] It appears that you have a lot of respect for the labor groups, [1:18:56] and that doesn't always happen with every large corporation [1:19:02] or whatever. [1:19:04] But, coming from a labor job, I just [1:19:08] want you to know that it is so appreciated [1:19:10] and such a breath of fresh air to have somebody [1:19:13] speak in the manner that you do about getting [1:19:17] along and listening to the union stewards, it's really admirable. [1:19:23] So thank you. [1:19:26] >> Thank you. [1:19:29] >> And again, thank you very much. [1:19:31] Thanks to all of your colleagues, and thanks to all [1:19:34] of our union partners. [1:19:35] Thank you. [1:19:36] We now turn to the CEO report with Brian. [1:19:40] So, over to you. [1:19:42] >> Thank you chair Lawrence, good afternoon commissioners [1:19:45] Commissioner horn I appreciate what you just said. [1:19:48] For those of you who don't know Allison [1:19:49] used to sit on the other side of the table. [1:19:52] So I think us being able to obtain her [1:19:56] in this role really allows us to progress in a positive way. [1:20:02] And she's got the ability to be straightforward, upfront, [1:20:08] and generate trust, and that's what it [1:20:13] takes to get these things done. [1:20:15] But I asked her to come and do this [1:20:17] because I really wanted all of you [1:20:18] to know how much we appreciate our 13 bargaining [1:20:25] units and all that they do. [1:20:28] I mean they do first class professional work for us [1:20:31] and we are very proud of the things that they accomplish. [1:20:33] So thank you for saying that. [1:20:36] Relevant to the third public speaker today chief Operating [1:20:40] Officer Fuhrman has already spoken with her, [1:20:44] so we will work with them to accommodate [1:20:48] what we can in that regard. [1:20:51] So, hopefully we will take care of that one. [1:20:55] The presentation the air service development presentation [1:20:59] comm I won't go into any more detail other than to say [1:21:02] our top priority is to move those numbers back [1:21:05] in a positive direction. [1:21:08] And, you know we were more ambitious about where [1:21:12] our passenger numbers would be this year [1:21:14] and we had the war happened with the spike in fuel prices, [1:21:19] airlines cut their capacity. [1:21:21] But we are doing okay. [1:21:23] June here today as you can see in your report or your packet [1:21:27] we are down 1.45%. [1:21:29] Year to date we are down about 2.5%. [1:21:31] After the first quarter earnings calls [1:21:33] that we saw with Delta and other airlines [1:21:35] we kind of projected about a 3% decrease. [1:21:37] So we are hoping to be a little bit better than that. [1:21:41] We are now moving through our busy summer season, June, July, [1:21:46] and August. [1:21:47] And once sports activities start in schools [1:21:51] we start to see that flatten a little bit. [1:21:53] So that will begin here, and then [1:21:56] we will look forward to the busy October May that weekend [1:22:01] and then we get into holidays. [1:22:03] So -- we will see where things go as we move forward. [1:22:11] You are all advised throughout the last 3 to 4 weeks, [1:22:14] and had a couple of events that we have here we [1:22:16] call them irregular operations. [1:22:18] Because they're not normal by any standpoint. [1:22:22] Staff managed through two major events in the past month in July [1:22:35] there was some bad conditions in Chicago [1:22:40] so we had flights routed to us, talking to folks around here [1:22:45] that was the largest amount of diversions [1:22:47] that we've had that they ever recall. [1:22:50] So, it was a big event. [1:22:52] Because many of the diversions were [1:22:54] wide body and international flights, [1:22:58] the airlines did not have staff that operated here. [1:23:03] So, it required extensive coordination by our teams, [1:23:07] and I will just say our operations. [1:23:09] And Mac teams. [1:23:11] They activated our diversion plan, [1:23:13] and just did a tremendous amount of coordination [1:23:16] with federal partners, other service providers [1:23:19] to support these operations without the local equipment [1:23:24] that airlines typically have. [1:23:26] We assisted with remote parking locations, for aircraft, [1:23:30] we assisted with passenger transport for those aircraft. [1:23:35] And connecting flight crews, we assisted [1:23:39] with fueling operations, obviously and other needs. [1:23:43] What you may or may not know, is once an aircraft comes [1:23:47] in and sits on the ramp, for domestic three hours, [1:23:53] those passengers have to be unloaded. [1:23:55] And it's four hours for international flights. [1:23:57] So, we also coordinated with CBP to process about 2000 passengers [1:24:04] through our customs and border facilities here at. [1:24:09] Which, you know, when that happens, [1:24:12] it typically happens when the facility is busy to. [1:24:14] So there was a lot of movement of aircraft off of gates. [1:24:17] And then we had about 200 individuals [1:24:19] that ended up spending the night, [1:24:20] so we did our best to accommodate them here [1:24:23] in the terminal. [1:24:24] And then, a second event occurred just maybe a week [1:24:28] or week and a half later on August 6th when f a had [1:24:32] a regional equipment outage and it triggered a ground stop here [1:24:39] at Minneapolis. [1:24:39] Something that we don't see very often. [1:24:42] Again, our staff initiated the emergency Operations center, [1:24:48] we worked closely with the airlines, [1:24:50] we stayed in contact with the f a, to really get a handle on it [1:24:55] and what could be expected moving forward. [1:24:58] Unfortunately it only lasted about two hours, [1:25:02] and then we had to accommodate some passengers here again [1:25:05] that evening. [1:25:06] But again, I think both events impact [1:25:11] and highlight our staff here at. [1:25:14] When things happen people always ask me, [1:25:15] what's the biggest thing at a hub airport? [1:25:18] And my answer is when something happens, it happens like that, [1:25:23] and there are so many triggering impacts beyond that. [1:25:27] Is just a monopoly of things that you have to deal with. [1:25:29] But our staff is well trained and did just a fantastic job. [1:25:34] So I just wanted to thank them for all that they [1:25:37] did in both of those events. [1:25:39] Changing topics, on August 4th our airport police department [1:25:43] once again hosted a Night to Unite celebration which is [1:25:49] our version of National Night Out, [1:25:51] the event takes place here in the terminal midday. [1:25:54] In the airport mall it brought together about 800 passengers [1:25:59] and employees in airport partners [1:26:01] to really focus on connections and giving travelers [1:26:05] a chance to meet the teams who keep MSP airport safe. [1:26:10] Again, thanks to the airport police department [1:26:13] and our airport fire department was on hand, [1:26:16] we had a number of other partners, TSA, federal air [1:26:20] marshals, airport Foundation, and others [1:26:22] that really helped that event. [1:26:24] Again it's a nice promotional event for passengers. [1:26:26] The police department gives out backpacks [1:26:28] for kids, that are preparing to go to school in a few weeks. [1:26:33] So really a nice event. [1:26:35] I also wanted to do a shout out to our airport police department [1:26:38] relative to a new milestone. [1:26:41] With its new cadet program. [1:26:44] Grace Donahue and Savannah Hutchins [1:26:48] were the program's inaugural graduates this summer. [1:26:52] And both returned to our airport police department [1:26:55] as full time officers this month. [1:26:58] So they started as cadets, and moved through. [1:27:01] They will be sworn into this commission at a future date. [1:27:05] The cadet program was launched last year, [1:27:09] and what we would hope would build [1:27:11] a strong pipeline for our airport police department [1:27:13] officers. [1:27:14] Both Grace and Savannah shared that the combination [1:27:18] of classroom learning and real world airport operations [1:27:22] from air traffic direction to airfield security [1:27:25] made them more confident and prepared for full time service. [1:27:30] We also help pay them for that education [1:27:33] as they are going through that cadet program. [1:27:36] So I want to thank both airport police department [1:27:40] leadership and HR for bringing that program here to MSP. [1:27:46] Also, some nice recognition, I don't know, [1:27:50] did we send that recognition out to the commissioners? [1:27:52] I can't remember if we did or not. [1:27:55] But you all probably heard about the devastating fire [1:27:57] in Saint Louis Park that damaged 90 units at the helix apartment [1:28:03] complex. [1:28:04] That fire required a significant response, [1:28:08] and our airport fire department was part of that response. [1:28:12] The firefighters involved in that it was a very hot day, [1:28:16] so heat was an issue. [1:28:17] It was challenging conditions. [1:28:19] As they were working across multiple agencies. [1:28:22] But we received a thank you letter [1:28:23] from Mayor Nadia Muhammad and City Manager Kim Keller [1:28:28] following the incident. [1:28:30] And some of the things they said in their incidents of this scale [1:28:34] remind us that no agency responds alone. [1:28:36] Your team and others came together seamlessly [1:28:39] to protect lives, care for people, [1:28:41] and bring that fire under control. [1:28:43] Your willingness to answer the call is deeply appreciated. [1:28:46] And we are fortunate to work alongside partners [1:28:49] who consistently demonstrate professionalism, expertise, [1:28:52] and a shared commitment to serving our community. [1:28:55] So again I thank you to our airport fire department [1:28:58] who answered the call. [1:28:59] We are really proud of the relationships that we have, [1:29:02] with our fire department and area police departments. [1:29:07] And their relationships that have been established [1:29:10] to really help support each other [1:29:12] because if something happens here, [1:29:13] we need them just as much as they need us. [1:29:17] Moving to concessions, Elite Cafe [1:29:21] is now open at terminal two, that's part of the latest RFP [1:29:24] that you approved I guess it was last year. [1:29:28] The Italian coffee brand offers a full espresso [1:29:31] bar, breakfast items sandwiches and salads and is open 7 a.m. [1:29:36] To 8 p.m. [1:29:36] Daily and it's nice to have it. [1:29:38] It's pre-security so it's nice to have food and beverages [1:29:42] Pre-security. [1:29:42] There's some upcoming events as we finish off the year. [1:29:48] That I just want to report on. [1:29:51] Earlier this month the E Experimental Aircraft [1:29:55] Association hosted their popular pancake breakfast at Lake Elmo [1:29:59] Airport, the Mac will be back at the Minnesota State Fair this [1:30:03] year on September 4th as part of MPR day. [1:30:06] So it gives us an opportunity to really promote what we do [1:30:09] as an organization and all the airports that we own [1:30:12] and operate, Girls in Aviation Day will be back at Flying Cloud [1:30:16] Airport on September 19th, a very popular event as well. [1:30:19] And then, we are working closely with the airport Foundation [1:30:22] on the annual state of the airport address, [1:30:25] and that will be October 1st, and our keynote will be [1:30:30] Allegiant CEO Greg Anderson, so I'll be able to ask him some [1:30:35] pointed questions about what Allegiant's plans are here [1:30:39] in the future. [1:30:39] Can we hope he answers those questions right? [1:30:42] But I'm sure he will. [1:30:44] So we are looking forward to having -- [1:30:46] >> I don't think he'll be showing up if he's not ready [1:30:48] to answer those questions. [1:30:51] >> Yeah. [1:30:51] So anyhow, also we received some great news [1:30:55] that Tim Simon just reported this morning [1:30:56] at our staff meeting. [1:30:58] We had a call with the rating agency standard [1:31:05] and Fitch a couple of weeks ago I guess it was. [1:31:09] Relative to our refinancing of bonds coming up here [1:31:15] towards the end of the year. [1:31:16] And, the great news is they our bond rating didn't drop at all. [1:31:27] It remained the same, and that's great news [1:31:31] especially at a time when it's a little bit more [1:31:34] of a challenging year. [1:31:35] And, the other thing that they mention in here [1:31:38] is under their section title Enterprise Risk profile, [1:31:43] they've got a few words that I want to read here. [1:31:46] It says despite lowering plane mints revenue has experienced [1:31:50] more than total rebound in fiscal 2025 [1:31:53] net revenue was 4.5% above the fiscal 2019 levels [1:31:57] which was a record year for US. [1:31:59] They say we believe that prudent financial management practices [1:32:03] and policies have supported the airport's [1:32:05] overall healthy financial performance, [1:32:07] and we consider the management team [1:32:10] very experienced and effective at running [1:32:11] all aspects of the airport. [1:32:13] Management invests heavily in employee development, [1:32:16] and leadership has been stable over the past several years, [1:32:18] most senior leaders have prior experience [1:32:21] in state and local government or aviation, [1:32:23] and several have worked for the Mac for a decade or more. [1:32:27] So congratulations to Tim and his team, [1:32:29] along with the entire senior management [1:32:31] team for the great work that they do. [1:32:34] It does get recognized, and this is very important, [1:32:36] because it saves us a lot of money as we issue bonds. [1:32:40] And then, the final thing that I have is a shout out [1:32:44] to one of our longtime concession partners [1:32:47] here at the airport, you all know Frederick Estes, [1:32:54] who is in the second generation owner of Estes Enterprises. [1:32:59] He was one of nine local leaders inducted into the inaugural [1:33:04] Minnesota Black Business Hall of Fame and that happened on August [1:33:08] 8th. [1:33:08] Hall of Fame recognizes entrepreneurs [1:33:11] come executives and innovators whose vision and leadership [1:33:14] have transformed Minnesota's economy. [1:33:16] Estes is a very familiar face here at MSP and after starting [1:33:22] as a group of street side gift shops back in Minneapolis, [1:33:25] 53 years ago the first SSP opened in the late 1980s [1:33:31] and today they operate multiple retail locations across MSP [1:33:36] and Tampa International Airport offering travelers grab and go [1:33:40] snacks gum electronics home souvenirs, [1:33:42] specialty retail products, and I know Fred was I think the first [1:33:48] one to offer that digital experience where you know, [1:33:52] he does have someone standing as you enter into the terminal two [1:33:57] location. [1:33:57] But, it's all basically a self-serve credit card operation [1:34:02] yep so congratulations to Frederick and the full Estes [1:34:06] Enterprise team. [1:34:07] I think I see Frederick sitting in the back. [1:34:11] So Frederick thank you and congratulations to you. [1:34:19] [Applause] [1:34:23] >> That is my report. [1:34:24] A lot of items in there today but there [1:34:24] was a lot to report on. [1:34:25] >> Questions for Brian? [1:34:28] Okay next up on the agenda, thank you Brian. [1:34:32] Is my remarks. [1:34:33] I don't have any. [1:34:35] But if anybody has a remark for me, now's the time. [1:34:39] Because we are going to go into a closed session. [1:34:41] Then we will come out of it. [1:34:45] But, I think anything we should be doing now. [1:34:50] So, I need to read from the script. [1:34:53] We will now close the meeting to discuss items related [1:34:57] to Mac's cybersecurity systems. [1:35:00] The open meeting law in Minnesota statute section 13.057 [1:35:05] D three Parenthese D permits this meeting [1:35:11] to be closed to the public because the disclosure [1:35:13] of the information discussed would [1:35:15] pose a danger to public safety or compromise security [1:35:19] procedures or responses. [1:35:21] During the closed session, the live video and its recording [1:35:24] will be suspended with a note indicating [1:35:26] that we are in closed session. [1:35:28] The speaker is outside of the commission room [1:35:32] will be turned off. [1:35:33] And anyone not necessary for the discussion [1:35:35] will be asked to leave. [1:35:37] When we return from the closed session, [1:35:39] we will reopen the meeting during that time [1:35:42] we would take any necessary votes which we will not [1:35:44] do during the closed session. [1:35:46] So I call now for a motion to close the meeting. [1:35:53] >> So moved. [1:35:54] >> Second? [1:35:56] >> All in favor? [1:35:59] Okay. [1:36:00] The meeting is closed. [1:36:02] We are going to pause the feed. [1:36:41] [Board is in Closed Session] And then \