1 00:04:24,780 --> 00:04:27,860 Please join us for the pledge of allegiance and 2 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:35,770 the states of America and to the Republic for which 3 00:04:35,770 --> 00:04:42,470 stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:04:42,810 --> 00:04:43,790 Thank you. 5 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:53,990 And welcome to the Board of County Commissioners' meeting February 18, 2021. Please let the clerk know 6 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:56,850 that all five commissioners are present? 7 00:04:57,630 --> 00:05:00,570 Now we'll look for a motion for the consent agenda. 8 00:05:00,670 --> 00:05:03,650 Mr. Chairman, I'd move to approve the consent agenda as presented. 9 00:05:04,270 --> 00:05:04,450 Second. 10 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:08,670 Move by commissioner Vaughan, second by commissioner Dedeker, 11 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:10,270 any further discussion? 12 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:17,190 Seeing none on paper I post same sign, unanimous approval. 13 00:05:17,190 --> 00:05:27,810 Now we will go to public comment and you're limited to five minutes, you'll see a car 14 00:05:27,810 --> 00:05:36,010 on the screen and when you come forward please give your full name, address if you have 15 00:05:36,010 --> 00:05:41,810 any group of affiliations and then deliver your remarks. 16 00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:45,430 So is there anyone for public comment today? 17 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,360 Anything. 18 00:05:54,450 --> 00:05:55,770 Come on up, young man. 19 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,760 I don't even lend you anything I live in. 20 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,920 3, 4, 2, 2, 5, look out, row, nose and water. 21 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:08,600 Be about a mile for more of this projected projects going to be. 22 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,140 Maybe a mile and a half. 23 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:12,300 I've just read a little bit on internet. 24 00:06:12,900 --> 00:06:15,560 So I don't know if any part of that's. 25 00:06:16,340 --> 00:06:17,600 Valor, they're not valid. 26 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,100 But I looked up on internet. 27 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:24,020 Other projects are being built, so I copied off the length. 28 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:31,060 outside of Chicago. They're doing the same thing. You get to see how the fans are working, 29 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,720 how the exhaust is working, how the size of the building, how it impacts the neighbors, 30 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,740 how they talk about their land shaking, vibrating. I mean, I don't want to hear the city manager 31 00:06:41,740 --> 00:06:46,420 of the mayor tell me, we're going to get all this money and then you won't pay taxes as bad. 32 00:06:46,860 --> 00:06:51,900 That all sounds good, but that's not realistic. So we need to take a look at what's actually 33 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:58,500 happening somewhere else and see how that impacts us right here in Miami County and then 34 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:03,180 have enough information to make a television decision not an emotional one. 35 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,740 That's what I've got to say. 36 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:06,680 Thank you. 37 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:11,080 And I got to link here, if someone's interested in anybody's interested, they take a picture 38 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:16,680 of it or take the top of it and look it up on the internet and see example of what's actually 39 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,620 going on. 40 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:21,420 I'll leave these later if we want one. 41 00:07:21,740 --> 00:07:22,640 Thank you, Lenny. 42 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,240 All right, who else is, once, make a public comment today? 43 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:51,190 My name is Elizabeth Grish, I reside over in Oswadamy. I think the bottom line here is, if anybody and I urge all of you to, if anybody does a quit Google search on pros and cons of a data center, you will very quickly find out there is a fallout across the country. 44 00:07:51,190 --> 00:08:06,510 The most recent thing I read is that researchers and scientists are struggling to even keep up with how bad it is just yet because of how quickly everything is being pushed to happen. 45 00:08:06,510 --> 00:08:15,470 I know, in my own experience, any time a project is being rushed, it's usually not something 46 00:08:15,470 --> 00:08:17,190 that's in the best interest for everybody. 47 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:24,570 Many of the local citizens have spoken publicly and voiced we do not want the status 48 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:25,490 center there. 49 00:08:25,790 --> 00:08:27,850 They're talking about putting it across from the state hospital. 50 00:08:28,770 --> 00:08:32,530 This is a building full of people that are trying to receive treatment. 51 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:40,110 I would also encourage anybody to get on the Kansas City subreddit and just look into the 52 00:08:40,110 --> 00:08:46,210 data center talks on there because that's where I originally saw this happening most of 53 00:08:46,210 --> 00:08:51,610 the year ago when people were petitioning not to have the mayor in Kansas City where they're 54 00:08:51,610 --> 00:08:55,870 used to all the loud noise and the big bright lights but I mean the people that are just in 55 00:08:55,870 --> 00:09:01,170 a close vicinity to it said well they don't need outdoor lights anymore because they're in 56 00:09:01,170 --> 00:09:06,930 The inside of their homes is lit up from the amount of light that comes off these buildings. 57 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:13,150 Aside from that, there are many questions and concerns as to how they're thinking 58 00:09:13,150 --> 00:09:18,550 OSTs, what I mean you would ever support it when we have struggled with water in the past 59 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:20,090 and electric also. 60 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:28,650 I really just want to make sure the community is informed and another thing I want to bring 61 00:09:28,650 --> 00:09:33,130 to the attention because I know that they're saying something about tax breaks or something. 62 00:09:34,910 --> 00:09:40,210 But there are already predicting that nationwide everybody, everybody will be affected. 63 00:09:41,490 --> 00:09:46,130 There's going by by 2030, but possibly in the next couple years, there's going to be an 64 00:09:46,130 --> 00:09:49,670 8% increase in minimum to everybody's electric bill. 65 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:51,330 That is pretty significant. 66 00:09:51,510 --> 00:09:53,730 Some places are going to get hit with 25 or more. 67 00:09:54,170 --> 00:09:57,050 They predict small communities will be getting hit the hardest. 68 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:00,730 So, I really hope you guys will just take everything into consideration. 69 00:10:01,430 --> 00:10:07,430 I am happy to provide and say, oh, my sources and bring anything else I can. 70 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:08,830 I'm having a really hard time. 71 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:12,990 I have, I've got a bunch of statistics and numbers, but I don't want to bring them to you guys 72 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:18,650 because they are changing so rapidly that it is, I mean, it is literally outdated information 73 00:10:18,650 --> 00:10:20,570 when I get on and do my research the next day. 74 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:26,410 And I have been heavily involved in researching this, but as a mother to two small children, 75 00:10:26,410 --> 00:10:31,810 that I desperately want to raise in the community I was raised in. 76 00:10:32,050 --> 00:10:38,030 Oh, so what I mean, me personally, I would love to see our city council focus on how we could 77 00:10:38,030 --> 00:10:42,990 bring a grocery store back and get something a smaller project like that going before we try 78 00:10:43,690 --> 00:10:46,330 to jump into anything like this. 79 00:10:47,010 --> 00:10:47,810 Thank you very much. 80 00:10:48,510 --> 00:10:48,950 Thank you. 81 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,360 Okay, our next public comment. 82 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,660 Name and add to us, please. 83 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,840 Ann Nelson Worley, new LLC, 293-22 was 330-503. 84 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,180 I led directly behind the property. 85 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,300 I am the rural citizen. 86 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,620 I do not live in the city of Osoatomy. 87 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,360 But I feel like I don't have much of a voice here in the city 88 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,200 just because of that. 89 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:23,460 I am the most closely affected by this project. 90 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:30,660 I firmly object to any data center, any more solar farms. 91 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:36,840 Ocewadamy's skirted around the moratorium to put the solar foreman, I thought that we 92 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,760 had a moratorium in Miami County to prevent that, is this going to be the same. 93 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 My next focus is on the property. 94 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:56,190 property was given to Osawa to me by the state that an agreement that in 20 years that 95 00:11:56,190 --> 00:12:00,150 if nothing was done with the property, they have to give it back to the state. 96 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Nothing's 97 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:08,040 happened with the property. Why are we scrambling at the very last minute to try and put some 98 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:19,300 kind of crazy data center on this property just so that they can keep it? I think that it's been 99 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:24,300 they've had no plan. They keep claiming they've spent millions of dollars and thousands of 100 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:30,340 man hours on infrastructure leading to this property, but yet I can barely drive down my road 101 00:12:30,340 --> 00:12:38,740 there without running through mud holes and pot holes every single day. Now they say that this is 102 00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:45,800 going to bring economic relief to the residents. I'm going to ask anybody, would you buy my property 103 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,060 knowing that there's going to be a data center being built next door, 104 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,380 how am I going to sell 105 00:12:52,380 --> 00:13:00,300 my property if I would never recuperate my money. I would be at nearly a total loss on this 106 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:08,980 property if I was to try and sell it. Now, their proposal is this is going to bring in 350 construction 107 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:14,660 jobs. Well, those are temporary jobs. How long are they going to last? Two, three years, the time 108 00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:23,240 the build, and then they're talking about 90 jobs that it will have full time. 90 jobs, that's 109 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:31,000 it. I thought we were talking about long-term future, you know, stability here, you know, 110 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:37,020 business is coming to the area and thriving, but no business is going to want to build anything 111 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:39,540 around that area, knowing there's a data center. 112 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,440 That's my two cents. 113 00:13:44,060 --> 00:13:44,660 Thank you. 114 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:45,400 Thank you, Nelson. 115 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,520 All right. 116 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:51,900 Who else we have for public comment today? 117 00:13:57,390 --> 00:14:01,930 My name is Amy Evans, and I live at 201 North 11th Street, Louisville, Kansas. 118 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:05,470 I am not a resident of the city of Osloan. 119 00:14:05,710 --> 00:14:11,290 My primary concern with this data center is how it's going to impact all of us regarding water supply. 120 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:18,450 We have been through several severe droughts over the last few years and I haven't on my phone. 121 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:23,790 It looked like it was going to use like 10 million gallons of water in a day. 122 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:35,630 Like I saw the proposal put out by the city manager and it said something about the city had to provide 10 NGD's worth of water, 123 00:14:36,070 --> 00:14:37,530 but it did not have a time frame. 124 00:14:38,010 --> 00:14:44,230 I feel like this is all being pushed through with very little clarity and it just seems 125 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:49,470 rushed and the merit is in, like you can walk across the in places and at least seen 126 00:14:49,470 --> 00:14:54,330 they did a 5K where people ran across the river because it was so low. 127 00:14:55,130 --> 00:14:58,910 My dad and my brother are farmers, my dad does a lot of work for duck hunters and they 128 00:14:58,910 --> 00:14:59,910 Who pump water? 129 00:15:00,270 --> 00:15:11,430 It's further duck hunting, and that's way less water than the state of center would use, and they have to shut down sometimes because the conservation district says you can't pump water right now, you're using too much. 130 00:15:13,010 --> 00:15:23,250 The state of center just seems short-sighted. AI is scheduled to take out like 20% of entry-level, like color jobs in the next few years. 131 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:27,010 So maybe you've got 90 and that's the top end for data centers. 132 00:15:27,330 --> 00:15:34,030 Maybe you've got 90 new permanent jobs, but 20% of entry-level white color jobs. 133 00:15:34,370 --> 00:15:37,470 That's our kids who've been going to college for last four years. 134 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:40,070 What are they going to do to pay back their student loans? 135 00:15:40,890 --> 00:15:45,930 I just really think we needed to get long, deep look at how this is going to impact everybody. 136 00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:47,270 Thank you for your time, sir. 137 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:48,130 Thank you, baby. 138 00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:52,650 Who else we got for a public comment today? 139 00:15:55,150 --> 00:16:04,830 Please come up and give your name and address Debbie Evely 33118 Oswami Road Oswami. 140 00:16:05,830 --> 00:16:12,210 I just want to say that this is going to be less than a quarter of a mile across from my 141 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:12,830 house. 142 00:16:13,170 --> 00:16:16,970 I'm going to be looking at it when I look at sunrise that won't be there anymore the sunrise 143 00:16:16,970 --> 00:16:17,890 won't. 144 00:16:17,890 --> 00:16:20,650 But I'm just really concerned. 145 00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:23,570 The scenes to just come up on all of us 146 00:16:23,570 --> 00:16:24,570 that live along the road. 147 00:16:24,830 --> 00:16:27,230 We just learned about it somehow this week. 148 00:16:27,410 --> 00:16:30,190 So we've all been passing me information around. 149 00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:35,630 And directly across from me, his property line 150 00:16:35,630 --> 00:16:37,110 will be that property line. 151 00:16:37,930 --> 00:16:39,750 His backyard will be right up there. 152 00:16:40,010 --> 00:16:41,250 Heat, they get at the house. 153 00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:44,230 They made it their home to live in for a long time. 154 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:45,830 They've got an orchard back there. 155 00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:52,890 We all enjoy kind of a country atmosphere, so we're just really concerned about it. 156 00:16:53,890 --> 00:17:01,790 My, my, my husbands, parents had the small farm there, George and Helen Ebley and Roger Ebley 157 00:17:01,790 --> 00:17:05,630 and I bought it from them and now our son, Toby, bought the home place. 158 00:17:05,830 --> 00:17:13,030 So we've been there for many, many years and enjoyed a really nice rural life and I don't know. 159 00:17:13,030 --> 00:17:20,370 We're just really concerned and hope that this is given a lot of a lot of luck, see. 160 00:17:20,730 --> 00:17:22,170 So I just, I thank you. 161 00:17:22,330 --> 00:17:25,770 I don't know anything about this, but I wanted to come because I'm really interested. 162 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:26,930 Thank you. 163 00:17:27,170 --> 00:17:28,010 Thank you, David. 164 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:31,170 Who else we have today for Bubba Comet? 165 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:32,710 Please come forward. 166 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,160 My name is Amber Kothelt. 167 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,480 I live in Osuwa, to me, Kansas 834 Pacific Avenue. 168 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:51,880 I am a little new to the table on this because I actually just recently got the information 169 00:17:51,880 --> 00:18:00,880 that this was even something that was on the table and I would like to mention as I was 170 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:10,520 rushing out of the house that my husband said the Cothel family has lived on that corner 171 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:17,640 of Pacific for since 1950 and his mother's family has lived in Osawa, 172 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,160 to me since 1850. 173 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:29,560 I have a lot of questions. So I am going to pose those 174 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,960 questions to you all. Hopefully, you know, the answers yourself, 175 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:40,780 they're in the writings 176 00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:49,740 about the data center that is proposed for Osoonomy. There was a large amount of electricity 177 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:59,460 and water that the city was supposed to provide. I have extreme concerns about that. It 178 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:03,380 was I'm thinking maybe two years ago that they had 179 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:08,240 to take our electricity lines, well, they didn't take them down. 180 00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:13,040 They had poles to lift them up in the air while this huge 181 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,980 contraption enormous. 182 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,880 I had my son come out to look at it because it was so big 183 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,120 and drove down our street. 184 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:25,320 That was because our city did not have enough power 185 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:37,960 to sustain itself during a hardship, and not only did that happen, it happened kind of spurred 186 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:44,280 the moment, because they had to rush around to get this appointment in to get it set 187 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,040 up. 188 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,900 And we fortunately had power, but our neighbors were out of power for a long time. 189 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:54,360 I also have concerns about the water supply. 190 00:19:56,940 --> 00:20:02,480 You know, I'm just a citizen, mom, of two small children. 191 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,080 And every month in my water bill, we get an extra paper. 192 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,020 Do you know what that extra paper says? 193 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,420 Does anyone else get that? 194 00:20:13,940 --> 00:20:19,100 It lets you know that the City of Ocewattamis water did not meet standards. 195 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:41,060 it happens nearly every month. I find that concerning myself just living there, but it raises a lot of concerns to me as to how we would be able to sustain this amount of water for a data center if we're having trouble sustaining water for citizens themselves. 196 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:50,960 The, someone else that was speaking brought up the 350 construction jobs that this would bring in. 197 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,020 Do we have a guarantee that those jobs will come from our area? 198 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:04,700 Will those jobs be brought in from places like Utah and other places that have large construction businesses? 199 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:14,900 There was a number quoted of 60 to 90 full-time employees, will those be citizens from 200 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:22,660 Ocewadami, Peola, Kansas, or will those be specific jobs that are brought in with the 201 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:23,100 medicine. 202 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:36,900 Also, I tend to wonder how many jobs Walmart has in Paila. I have a feeling 203 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:46,800 there's more than 60 to 90 employees at a time working at Walmart. My biggest concern 204 00:21:46,800 --> 00:22:00,860 would be what this data center brings to Osootomy as a whole and then to each individual living 205 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:06,900 in Osootomy and in the surrounding area. What is it going to us? 206 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:16,220 What is it going to 207 00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:22,300 we have about what it brings to a community, and what it takes away from a community. 208 00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:27,480 That would be my biggest concern. 209 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,980 I would like to see... 210 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:37,880 At 10 seconds. That it's the prose outweigh the cons. Thank you. Thank you, 211 00:22:41,370 --> 00:22:43,030 and I have any one else for 212 00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:52,510 public comment today. Please come forward. Good. Welcome. My name is Aller Vobile. I pay a little 213 00:22:52,510 --> 00:22:59,390 cancels. My wife would kill me if I didn't speak on this. So, one of the biggest concerns would 214 00:22:59,390 --> 00:23:04,350 definitely the mental health facility, usually the people that work with these facilities 215 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:07,430 have to deal with people biting them and fighting them all the time, right? 216 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:13,390 And I would assume throwing in low frequencies and constant noise into a place where it's 217 00:23:13,390 --> 00:23:15,870 already degrading the mind is quite not great. 218 00:23:17,610 --> 00:23:18,570 Utilities increasing. 219 00:23:18,750 --> 00:23:21,530 I'm going to see utilities increase with electric and water. 220 00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:24,770 And a place where it's already increased pretty high already. 221 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:27,930 Even if you don't have water turned on, you're still going to build about $80. 222 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:31,930 So a month, which that's kind of weird to me. 223 00:23:33,470 --> 00:23:39,950 On top of that, that's the property tax, and itself has already gone up about, I think, three times, the past five years. 224 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:43,430 So I originally paid in Oswald and I went ahead of house there. 225 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:48,470 It was about $500 in property tax, pretty nice, but it was very old house. 226 00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:54,210 I removed a little bit and I paid 2000, but it was not still that little boat and had a big hole in the backyard. 227 00:23:54,210 --> 00:24:00,850 So something was not correct there and when I called they didn't seem to correct it so there's something that wrong with those numbers 228 00:24:02,750 --> 00:24:07,870 Again with the water use they say it's gonna use about I think it's a million gallons per day 229 00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:13,990 They want to put in a new system to take out the obsolete one in Oslo, I mean which will be a new system 230 00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:20,510 Is it gonna be about 3 million gallons a day which they made a lot of good points about other places who are already having these issues 231 00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:24,090 taking it from the mayor to see, for example, where we would, I know we're going to drive 232 00:24:24,090 --> 00:24:27,970 the river if we don't get good rainfall, which we're seeing issues with that in Colorado. 233 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:33,670 So that's not good for the community. The community itself, I'm sure you people know, is poor. 234 00:24:35,030 --> 00:24:40,150 All right, so poor communities usually don't fare well when prices increase, and especially 235 00:24:40,150 --> 00:24:44,650 if the people who work there can't work, or who live there can't work with the place that 236 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:51,710 then come replace them. So what you'll see eventually is a community going. You'll see maybe a 237 00:24:51,710 --> 00:24:56,230 couple houses still and you'll have no community at all and you'll have a data center. So not a total 238 00:24:56,230 --> 00:25:00,150 win unless you don't like people I guess. 239 00:25:02,270 --> 00:25:05,610 Yeah and the jobs totally way off on that is not 90 240 00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:11,970 tops about 35 people. It's a data center. It's a big computer. You get a couple nerds with IT in 241 00:25:11,970 --> 00:25:19,950 That's it, you know, it's not in a couple of janitors, it's not going to open up this big massive great volume of jobs. 242 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:27,650 And I don't know where the numbers are skewing with the city of Oswami giving these City Council, Oswami getting these numbers. 243 00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:31,430 Oh, trust the science, it's in the research, I don't know where they're getting it. 244 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:40,310 Everything I've seen from scientific reports and reports themselves from the media, there's been nothing good. 245 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:47,470 I mean the only good thing is you're letting Amazon come in in my Bitcoin in your neighborhood and destroy your community. 246 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:51,270 I mean maybe that is a victory I don't know. 247 00:25:53,390 --> 00:25:54,490 Thank you. 248 00:25:54,570 --> 00:25:59,510 Also, back on the low frequencies, low frequency travels really far and can harm a lot of people. 249 00:25:59,670 --> 00:26:04,930 So you have a lot of children right down the road also that can be harmed by these frequencies, by this consistent noise. 250 00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:12,750 I've heard the City Council say it's like a low lawnmower, a quiet lawnmower, and it's still pretty loud, nonstop, 24-7. 251 00:26:12,910 --> 00:26:17,610 Some have said it's like a Boeing 747, which is a very loud nonstop, 24-7. 252 00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:23,210 And then it says it's a closed loop system, but it evaporates the air. 253 00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:28,350 It already evaporates the water into the air to create this clean air. 254 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:29,910 How's it closed loop? 255 00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:33,330 Close the loop stays within the loop, right? 256 00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:35,810 It doesn't leave the loop, so if it's leaving the loop, 257 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:37,830 what is that excess that is leaving the loop 258 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:41,090 and then going into the air, it's kind of brought to me. 259 00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:44,610 And if it goes into the air, then that's not good. 260 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:47,770 That's also then going to go bother whoever's around it 261 00:26:47,770 --> 00:26:51,210 or of course the county doesn't matter only the city, apparently. 262 00:26:52,550 --> 00:26:54,450 And then, only like I said, with the mayor to scene, 263 00:26:54,670 --> 00:26:56,890 if it doesn't receive water, who's affected by that 264 00:26:56,890 --> 00:27:00,510 side from Oswara being inside from this community right now. 265 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:05,050 Is there anybody down the line, is that not matter to them? 266 00:27:06,610 --> 00:27:10,990 I think, I just think professionally this was not thought through in any kind of way. 267 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:12,510 I don't think there was any kind of planning. 268 00:27:13,210 --> 00:27:16,870 I think they could have gone and they've gotten, I've heard of this grocery store many times 269 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:21,770 and I've throughout my period of being around Oswara and I've heard that one point they could have 270 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,590 had an audience. I don't know if this is true. I know poor people. 271 00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:30,910 I think they like cheaper stuff that is good quality. All these has that and that was the night 272 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:38,050 So it's weird to have such a good system and a community that cares to then say or a good counsel that cares to then say too bad 273 00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:45,250 I'm gonna give you this which does nothing for you. So that's my time. I got 10 seconds. I appreciate it. Thank you, Alex 274 00:27:46,990 --> 00:27:51,490 Okay, we got anybody else from public comment come forward please 275 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:02,980 My name is Kathleen Henninger, Matt Lenny, and I voted for some of you. 276 00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:08,560 And, appreciate you doing some clarification on Facebook, helping some people get here. 277 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,220 That was very nice. 278 00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:10,920 Did you give your address, please? 279 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,100 I live at 2909 Lone Star Road here in Paila, Kansas. 280 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:16,520 And I'm a little tear four years ago. 281 00:28:17,580 --> 00:28:22,800 So, little history is that I served at the pleasure of the mayor for 17 years. 282 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,180 I've been on your side of the road. 283 00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:27,740 Can you come a little closer to the microphone? 284 00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:31,240 I know it's like to be a part of the council. 285 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,560 I've served at the pleasure of the mayor for 17 years. 286 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:37,740 My father was planning zone for 36. 287 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,120 I sat by his side at every single meeting. 288 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120 I served the pleasure of two mayors. 289 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,120 I wasn't invited to be on the board when the second mayor came on. 290 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,040 So, I understand growth line-lock community, 291 00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:56,660 but in North Iowa, Mississippi River, where I'm a captain. 292 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,520 And everybody else locking us in, we had to have some plans. 293 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,640 We had to have some growth. 294 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,140 It comes a pain, but it also comes with planning and consistency. 295 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480 So, growth is exponential. 296 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680 One household will bring four people. 297 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,340 Four people will bring two cars. 298 00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:24,200 two cars will now be on the road. Where are they going? What do they need? 299 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880 They need resources. They don't need AI. 300 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,680 They need resources. We need to build 301 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,740 an analytical manner that lets people know that my investment is going to be something 302 00:29:39,740 --> 00:29:46,360 that the future can also invest in. My children, your children, their children. 303 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:59,680 They want this. I'm building a future. I moved here where water was scarce. And they would raise our rates. 304 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,740 Because we had very small amount of water we could use. And if you used any more than that, the rate went up. And it went up. And it went up. You couldn't even water your yard. 305 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:24,720 I don't want that to happen to our small little community. If we're going to get exponential growth, let's do it in a way where the money goes into the community and not out of the community. Let's all ask. 306 00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:28,820 So, let's take breath. 307 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:33,300 I heard the city manager of Osawa to me. 308 00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:34,400 We went to the meeting. 309 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:36,500 You told us to back. 310 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,040 We're doing it. 311 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,300 Did he not? 312 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,360 And they also said it's your problem out of his. 313 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:51,010 But he said this is the first opportunity we've had. 314 00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:53,210 The first opportunity we've had to make revenue 315 00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:54,550 for Osawa to me. 316 00:30:54,550 --> 00:31:01,670 Okay, well, I don't necessarily believe that, but I don't also, I also don't believe your first opportunity is your best opportunity. 317 00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:07,330 That tells me people are showing interest. That tells me people are looking. 318 00:31:07,890 --> 00:31:12,790 That tells me this is when we need to start digging in and saying, what do we want for our future? 319 00:31:13,810 --> 00:31:15,310 Let's not just give it up, 320 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,800 and I'm really concerned because they really had a circular conversation. 321 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:24,440 in the city of Osuwa, they were rude, 322 00:31:26,830 --> 00:31:31,850 they were very disinterested in anything we had to say. 323 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:38,130 They told us that even though they had annexed it, that we had to come to this meeting out of our day, 324 00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:42,330 to make sure that it didn't happen but too bad because we're just going to do it anyway. 325 00:31:44,410 --> 00:31:48,670 He also said that he was approached by the company. 326 00:31:48,670 --> 00:31:50,510 I know I have a minute, 327 00:31:52,570 --> 00:31:55,170 made a proposal, give it to the mayor. 328 00:31:56,150 --> 00:31:57,170 You can check the record. 329 00:31:58,570 --> 00:32:01,170 The mayor made his revisions. 330 00:32:02,190 --> 00:32:03,490 He gave it back to Brett. 331 00:32:03,910 --> 00:32:06,610 Brett gave it to the council and they voted on it. 332 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:07,810 Excuse me. 333 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,100 I don't think anybody voted Brett to make decisions for them. 334 00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:20,880 I need all of you to take care of us and protect us. 335 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:21,880 That's why I moved here. 336 00:32:24,190 --> 00:32:25,090 Thank you. 337 00:32:25,090 --> 00:32:26,330 Thank you. 338 00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:33,040 Okay, who else we got Republic comment today 339 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,300 afternoon gentlemen. My name is Dino Mada. I live at 17905 West 319th Street 340 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:50,040 Fail of Kansas. I'm not going to reiterate everything that's gone on here. Listen to this morning sessions 341 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,460 Paul asks some great questions. That's a great thoughts. I'll leave you with a couple more 342 00:32:55,460 --> 00:33:02,680 Understand this is the county level not city, so can't speak to anything's the mayor and those folks that did out there and I I got I know the difference 343 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,360 But a couple of things I'd like to point out, and we're one district-landenings assumptions 344 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,280 appear to be quite overstated. 345 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,800 He's talking about, again, the 90 jobs coming in for a data center. 346 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,780 By the way, somebody asked the question, how long data centers have been around? 347 00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:22,060 I'll be able to glad to answer that for you. 348 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:24,640 They've been around as long as telecommunications companies have been around. 349 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,720 They've had them for decades. 350 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,560 All over the country, they don't provide as many jobs as 90 in that small of a data center. 351 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,380 It's going to be probably a third of that, but that's why I say his estimates are probably 352 00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:38,380 overstated by a factor of two. 353 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:45,680 The other things they've mentioned is that there's going to be a 10 year 50% tax abatement. 354 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,200 Your correct Mr. Press, the city does have quite an autonomy, but they also have to get 355 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:58,780 your permission along with the school districts to provide that tax incentive to build this. 356 00:34:00,150 --> 00:34:04,570 And I don't know of any school district around here that doesn't need the money. 357 00:34:05,890 --> 00:34:08,750 And I certainly know all the things that are going on around here in the county, 358 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:10,910 and I'm pretty sure you do too. 359 00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:14,510 So I'll leave it at that. 360 00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:16,350 Those are the two big things. 361 00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:17,170 There's lots of others. 362 00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:19,030 They've already spoken many of these things. 363 00:34:19,470 --> 00:34:21,730 But again, school districts need the money. 364 00:34:22,050 --> 00:34:23,270 You need the money. 365 00:34:23,770 --> 00:34:25,470 Offering this type of tax incentive. 366 00:34:25,470 --> 00:34:28,210 I think their claim is going to be 10 years. 367 00:34:28,890 --> 00:34:29,510 It's probably not. 368 00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:31,050 They're going to ask for it every 10 years. 369 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:35,170 They're going to issue investor revenue bonds as well. 370 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:39,210 Then the question becomes if those are defaulted on who pays those back. 371 00:34:40,270 --> 00:34:41,350 It's going to be the taxpayers. 372 00:34:42,970 --> 00:34:45,650 Just ask any star bond project that's going south. 373 00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:48,790 Got one up in the Soto, going south. 374 00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:50,410 Can you see power and light district? 375 00:34:50,510 --> 00:34:52,790 We had a bunch of bonds issued for the city. 376 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:59,630 That thing isn't paying for itself. None of these work out, so I'll leave you with that. Thank you. 377 00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:15,480 I'm Brian Love, 27242 West 335. 378 00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:22,240 Obviously, I'm here to talk about the data center. 379 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:30,160 At this point, I'm strongly against it because it's being pushed through. 380 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,160 Everyone of you here appreciates a quality of life in Miami County. 381 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,580 I talked to you, Mr. Precious, today. You know what you need to do. 382 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,160 You're not city council, but you have the ability to stop this. 383 00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:52,830 So, you know how to do it. 384 00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:53,690 Thanks. 385 00:35:53,870 --> 00:35:57,850 Going to hear a little more on that. How do we have the ability to stop? 386 00:35:57,850 --> 00:36:06,970 more torrent. That would only be in the end incorporated area of my Macan. Well, I mean, I'm 387 00:36:06,970 --> 00:36:12,510 interested, but I've done some research on that and I would be glad to provide that to you 388 00:36:12,510 --> 00:36:13,290 by email, 389 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:22,750 but you with all the commissions. I will. You all again in the ministry. I definitely will. 390 00:36:22,750 --> 00:36:24,210 I got your email address. 391 00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:26,010 Thank you. 392 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:26,450 Thank you. 393 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:27,090 Thank you. 394 00:36:27,370 --> 00:36:28,630 Appreciate it. 395 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:37,160 Hello. 396 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:38,240 My name is Courtney Crawford. 397 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,600 I live at 30842 Indianapolis. 398 00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:41,660 And that's Paola. 399 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,100 As many of you know, I went to Tepeca on Monday and spoke on House or on Senate Bill 146, 400 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,980 which is the bill that would give the land back to us a lot of me for an additional 20 years. 401 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,360 What I went there to speak up on is we need an amendment to this bill. 402 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:04,400 we need to push for there'd be restrictions on data centers, solar and wind. 403 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:08,680 Also, a lot of me done put a solar farm when we had a more touring on solar. 404 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,000 This bill gives you guys the opportunity to contact the House, the House, 405 00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:17,640 Local, Governments, Committee, and voice your concerns and push for this amendment. 406 00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:21,140 That's what you guys can do as commissioners for your citizens. Thank you. 407 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,700 Thank you. 408 00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:28,050 Who else we got today? 409 00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:29,970 Going on. 410 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,120 Once, going twice, 411 00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:38,910 if you have a public comment, please come up and give your name an address. 412 00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:45,080 No, you get one shot at it. 413 00:37:45,220 --> 00:37:51,280 But thanks for the question. You get five minutes, one shot. 414 00:37:57,370 --> 00:37:58,530 I didn't hear you. 415 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,940 Okay. Thank you. All right. That concludes our public comment. 416 00:38:11,140 --> 00:38:13,740 Is there any presentation in the boards and 417 00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:22,320 Procumations today? Thank you Madam Clerk. Action item number one is a point Pat Campbell as 418 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,980 is Sweet Supervisor for 2026, 419 00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:32,720 what's the name of Commissioner 420 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:37,220 Eric Sampert-Rude and Bridge. Every spoke earlier today, every 421 00:38:37,220 --> 00:38:40,740 year we've got an appointment and not just lead Supervisor, we had 422 00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:44,540 Darrell White Retire last year, we recently hired Pat Campbell, and 423 00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:47,660 I might ask is the Chua Point Pat Campbell who the not just lead 424 00:38:47,660 --> 00:38:52,120 Supervisor here in 2026. So I would so move. Second. 425 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:56,660 Okay, 426 00:38:57,380 --> 00:38:59,180 Tyler Bond II, 427 00:39:06,540 --> 00:39:08,480 we can do that later today as an alternate? 428 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,160 Yes. 429 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,780 We can do that later. 430 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,080 Okay. 431 00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:21,960 I would be friendly to that amendment and add it to my original motion. 432 00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:24,320 I'll second that. 433 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:35,920 So, it's moved by Brad 2nd by Commissioner Dietiker, the motion to name pad as a noxious 434 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:43,260 weight director and once again, what else we alternate to, what is the pad? 435 00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:44,780 Lake Regents all the way to authority. 436 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,720 Like we, Lake Regents all the way to authority. 437 00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:51,340 Everybody understand the motion. 438 00:39:52,100 --> 00:40:02,120 home, but any discussion, home favorite I, both same sign, unanimous approval. Now we're 439 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:11,200 moving on to item two, action item, annual noxious weed, management plan, and we, the 440 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,540 eradication report. 441 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:17,460 Yes, good afternoon, commissioners, Pat Campbell, noxious weed director. That's sorry, noxious weed 442 00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:21,600 supervisor. I apologize. What you have before you use the annual report that gets 443 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,580 submitted to the state, I went through last year's numbers to the best of my ability 444 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:33,260 and came up with numbers. It just basically states the amount of anchors of chemicals we 445 00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:38,320 sold and how many what kinds of weeds were treated in which chemicals and so on and so forth. 446 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,180 Are there any questions or anything on either of those plans that I can answer for you? 447 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:53,140 Ben, your first year, do you have any different kind of plans or ideas going forward for the county on Knox's way? 448 00:40:53,340 --> 00:41:02,280 Going forward, yes, for 2026, no, because we are getting ready to start the time of season to really get to Roland. Hopefully, 449 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:10,840 you'll use next fall and next winter to maybe try the ample amount, a couple different options for the county to make a little better for everything and everybody. 450 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:21,140 would probably think that if we have an early spring, you might need to be out earlier than some years. 451 00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:22,800 Looks like it could be. 452 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,980 Yeah, that could be one of those years. That's for sure. 453 00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:29,920 Yeah, that's something I want to try to do a little more of personally is. 454 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:34,760 We need to keep it quiet. We're conducting the meeting here. 455 00:41:35,540 --> 00:41:36,860 And I need to turn off my phone. 456 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:48,440 But I'm going to try to do some more in-house spring this year. 457 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:50,700 Obviously, I'm learning the county. 458 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,740 I've spent the last, I've been here for two weeks now. 459 00:41:53,780 --> 00:41:55,700 I've been spend a lot of time on the windshield driving around. 460 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,660 And you can see some of the problem areas in the county. 461 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,340 So get myself reaffirmed, but after me, to where we need to go and what we need to hit. 462 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,960 We'll try to get with the contract sprayers, try to get some that lined up as well. 463 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040 I don't think I'll be able to do the whole county myself. 464 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:16,700 it's just one person. That's a tough task. You know, the other guys they'll be doing the 465 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:21,060 bare ground and around the guardrails and things like that. But yeah, I'm going to try to do 466 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:27,340 more in-house spring. So you do plan on still doing the 50% rotation of spring like the 467 00:42:27,340 --> 00:42:32,640 north end of the county for the, with the toward on and stuff through the run. I'm just going 468 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:39,420 to go this year. I'm going to go to hot spots. I want to try to get those contained. Like 469 00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:44,420 I'm going to try to learn the county and there may be a different, I won't say better, but a 470 00:42:44,420 --> 00:42:50,820 different way of doing things as well, maybe make it more efficient, not that it wasn't 471 00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:54,620 efficient before, but like I said, it may not be better, but it might be different. 472 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,900 And until we try it, we don't know if it's going to be better or not. 473 00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:03,080 I mean, I'm open to suggestions, and I'm just like I'm still going through, there are 474 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,440 old records and trying to figure a couple of things out of how things were done and how 475 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,480 He did it. 476 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:10,640 Now he's a structured man. 477 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:11,380 Yeah. 478 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:14,740 Like I said, we need to get a chemical rotation, too, so you don't build up resistance. 479 00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:15,760 Right. 480 00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:25,060 Did I hear a motion to accept this annual, noxious weed, eradication, so on and forth? 481 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,000 Move by Commissioner Von II, by Commissioner Deityker. 482 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,500 Any further discussion? 483 00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:33,780 Thank you. 484 00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:35,500 Seeing none on paper I. 485 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,500 I post same sign. 486 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,500 And then I'm a approval. 487 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:40,360 Thank you. 488 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:40,440 Thank you. 489 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:42,240 Especially the 490 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:50,940 third action item is authorised, authorised, signing a letter. 491 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,200 A letter of a commitment for the build grant. 492 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,140 Good afternoon commission. 493 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,100 Thank you chairman. 494 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,220 Medal of Project Manager. 495 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,280 Before you have a letter of commitment as you stated, 496 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:07,360 this is for the build grant, 497 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,500 which is a planning and project grant for 223rd. 498 00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:16,360 This corridor is from Columbia Road, East to US69 Highway. 499 00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:21,040 Really, this letter just formalizes, it'll be a part of your application, 500 00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:24,180 and it just formalizes the analytical agreement that you have with Spring Hill already 501 00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:31,700 in the amount of or up to $150,000 for the 8020 grant application. 502 00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:39,900 It is a 10% mind-me-county investment, 10% spring-hill investment, really, staff would request 503 00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:43,780 that the Commission Chair signed the letter of commitment against spring-hill's executed 504 00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:44,500 their portion. 505 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:52,260 It is, this letter states that you are not committing the funds, but you are at this point 506 00:44:52,260 --> 00:44:54,740 in time committed to the project that if you were awarded, 507 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,620 you would, in conjunction with 508 00:44:57,620 --> 00:44:59,620 spring-hill, submit your 10%. 509 00:45:00,430 --> 00:45:08,110 Up to 150, and from this discussion this morning, I believe that those funds are coming from your economic development funds. 510 00:45:09,470 --> 00:45:12,470 But move to approve as presented, please. Second. 511 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:17,930 May you buy a commissioner bond, second by commissioner, did you hear any discussion? 512 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:25,850 I would just also just comment publicly thanking Matt and your team and the coordination of Spring Hill. 513 00:45:25,850 --> 00:45:29,270 I think duly noted, and nice work. 514 00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:32,850 Sounds good to the result of path forward on that. 515 00:45:32,910 --> 00:45:33,630 Yeah, my pleasure. 516 00:45:34,310 --> 00:45:35,350 I hope we get the way. 517 00:45:35,770 --> 00:45:36,250 It's great. 518 00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:39,570 All right, any other discussion? 519 00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:44,890 Seeing none on Baybrow, I, I, all both, same sign, 520 00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:46,250 unanimous approval. 521 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:47,230 Thank you. 522 00:45:47,550 --> 00:45:50,550 That concludes those three action items. 523 00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:52,890 Next we have applications. 524 00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:56,630 as we have a 20-25 inventory, Madam Clerk. 525 00:45:57,010 --> 00:45:58,970 On the inventory, we're actively collecting it, 526 00:45:58,970 --> 00:46:02,250 but we have one more entity that we are waiting on. 527 00:46:02,810 --> 00:46:05,010 So hopefully by next week, we have that wrapped up, 528 00:46:05,050 --> 00:46:06,690 and we'll be presenting next week. 529 00:46:06,990 --> 00:46:11,230 Then you'll want to commissioners to review it in. 530 00:46:11,230 --> 00:46:12,390 You are review it. 531 00:46:12,490 --> 00:46:14,330 We'll give you a couple weeks this year. 532 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:15,470 I hope so. 533 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:16,270 Thanks for that. 534 00:46:16,310 --> 00:46:16,970 Thank you. 535 00:46:17,290 --> 00:46:17,850 Thank you. 536 00:46:17,850 --> 00:46:22,770 Now, is there today, is there any reports from staff, 537 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:26,980 reports from staff? 538 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:34,220 Seeing none, we're ready for commissioner comments, we'll start with Mr. Bickley. 539 00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:42,980 Yes, I guess to everyone that came and spoke today, this commission is listening to what 540 00:46:42,980 --> 00:46:54,180 or thoughts are and it's very concerning when business with the type energy usage is going 541 00:46:54,180 --> 00:47:01,440 to be one of our neighbors. I don't know that this county commission has the authority 542 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,940 to veto something that a city is decided to do. 543 00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:09,860 Mr. Scrooff. 544 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:14,760 Yeah, I won't reiterate what I said this morning, but I'm on the same issues. 545 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:21,520 You guys, the decision being immediately against it, but more than the decision was the process 546 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,500 that led up to the gentleman in the polo shirt, my issue, because we'll deal with more 547 00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:28,100 these issues coming forward, the county. 548 00:47:28,940 --> 00:47:32,460 You can tell me the flaw for the potential, but tell me the downsize to everything. 549 00:47:33,380 --> 00:47:38,400 And most of the cases that you said, I touched space this morning, but you know what I took 15 minutes 550 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:44,840 say out of the street a letter by one of my constituents that I got today that kind of sums up everything. 551 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,160 He said, Paul, I'm writing the express by concern regarding the proposed destruction operation 552 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,680 of data centers in Miami County. I'm strongly opposed to this development as I believe it would 553 00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,920 cause economic and environmental harm that would negatively affect the citizens and taxpayers of 554 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,780 also want to be in Miami County. The significant demand these facilities placed on water and electricity 555 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:11,760 could put residents of also water me in the surrounding county at risk, while I understand that 556 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,620 the city is eager to find a tenant for the Northland area. I do not believe a data center 557 00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:22,380 is the right solution. Offering a 50% tax abatement for 10 years also seems counterproductive 558 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:27,780 if the goal is to increase tax revenue for the city. In my opinion the city should focus on 559 00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:33,960 attracting small light manufacturing businesses that would create local jobs without placing such a 560 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:40,760 burden on essential utilities. I recognize that this may not be an easy objective as shown 561 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:46,920 by the limited development of the Northland site over the last 20 years. However, prioritizing 562 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,640 small industry, which typically requires less infrastructure and fewer taxes than it would 563 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,480 be a more sustainable long-term strategy than approving a project that could strain utilities 564 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,800 impact the environment. I plan to speak under the open session today, but I have a prior 565 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,560 commitment in the city that I must attend. I appreciate your time and consideration when 566 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:12,940 insure my concerns were shared. It's a dearly Brad Riker. Homeowner of multiple homes in 567 00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:20,160 Osuwa and me in pale board member of Miami County World Water 2. And our reference to World 568 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,420 Water 2 and leave it at that because I contacted to answer one of your questions that you 569 00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:30,740 brought up on water usage. I asked Brad and Water District 2, which I think combined with 570 00:49:30,740 --> 00:49:34,160 water district one in 2023. 571 00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:38,800 How much water goes out water district two? And he said 572 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,660 water district two produces one billion gallons a year with half a million going 573 00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:46,940 into Miami County. 574 00:49:49,180 --> 00:49:51,660 So that kind of hit me because this data center uses 575 00:49:51,660 --> 00:50:02,320 one million a day. That's 73% of the total usage and that hit me like a ton of 576 00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:11,020 I'll leave it at that, so I'm in on your same side, I wanted to relay that to Brad, because 577 00:50:11,020 --> 00:50:15,040 he's, from Bureau, I mean, Liz and his counties, he's on the wall, what he knows, what 578 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,660 the utilities, the fact will, and he owns several homes and also water. 579 00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:21,100 I mean, Sue, as a good perspective on that, too. 580 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,520 So, thank you. 581 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,620 Commissioner Dittaker, yes, I'll have to agree with the citizen on this one. 582 00:50:28,620 --> 00:50:39,460 This is one of those things that the research that I've looked at that to since I was aware of it on Monday with the amount of water usage and and not necessarily knowing what type of 583 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,040 effluence would become an out of this as it the discharging 584 00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:49,280 I don't think this is a very good fit for my mc County or actually for the city of Oslo, Latamy 585 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:58,600 So in my view, I'm not in favor of data centers at all and I would be a 586 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,860 So we would have a better chance to see the pros and cons and make a better decision without 587 00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:05,680 it being rushed. 588 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:09,560 So. 589 00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:13,980 I'm going to take a little different approach to this. 590 00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:19,060 So I'm going to address the data center, but I'm going to address something else first. 591 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,840 I would say in the last week has probably been the best week I've experienced in Miami County 592 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,700 for several different reasons. 593 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:28,760 Yeah, you laugh. 594 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:29,860 I'm going to explain why. 595 00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:31,300 I'm going to explain why. 596 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:39,040 So I've had the opportunity to set down with individuals, citizens, individual in Hillsdale, 597 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:45,960 group of people in Hillsdale, address their concerns, be able to have eyeball to eyeball 598 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,340 conversation with them, let them know where I was coming from inside of this, but also 599 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:53,860 explained what the process is. 600 00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:59,080 George always is good about talking about the process and Courtney I'll call you out on that 601 00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:06,280 you're spot on. You're right. That's the thing we can do. Right? Those are the things we can do. 602 00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:13,880 And it's notable that three or four people who was wrote left before they got the chance to hear what the 603 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:23,700 commissioners actually had to say. And I would further say we probably won't get a phone call from some of 604 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:26,340 the talks about how corrupt we are, 605 00:52:26,780 --> 00:52:29,960 pattern or pockets or some of those type of things in. 606 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:39,640 Personally, and so, good friends of mine that are up here, I'd say these five guys, I know each of them personally, know their wives, know a lot about them. 607 00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:47,340 So when I say the last week in my county was great, Sunday I went to lunch with my daughter at Alporto. 608 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:57,120 I ran into Jacob Vickery and his family, saw Rusty Gurkin and his wife, and you know what they were doing, they're smiling, they're enjoying themselves. 609 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:06,580 We have a community, so what I would ask for is your respect and the court understand what our responsibility is, 610 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,620 what the actions are that we can actually take and advocate for that. 611 00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:21,680 So of all the comments we appreciate that, but Courtney was actually the only comment that was relevant to what the County Commission could actually do. 612 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,780 Then the other thing that I would address just publicly and make sure I'm clear on this is 613 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:31,140 for eight years I've advocated for local control. 614 00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:40,960 It would be ridiculous if I did not advocate for local control and understand the process behind what local control means. 615 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:49,880 Local control means you trust the people that at least 51% of the voting population put up here to represent you. 616 00:53:49,880 --> 00:54:03,000 Of that in the eight years that I've done this, I would say at least 50% of disagree with me and a lot of the decisions that I've made and those are the things that we expect to happen whenever we fill these positions. 617 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:12,000 So we expect the ridicule but I would expect the respect of the public and understand and we're paying the same taxes. 618 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:21,740 We're doing this job to represent and to serve and frankly, it's insulting and somewhat 619 00:54:24,340 --> 00:54:33,080 not cool actually when you don't know enough about the process to understand who you're advocating with. 620 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,010 Thank you. 621 00:54:35,010 --> 00:54:42,510 Thank you, Commissioner Wong. Good comments. I want to thank everyone that came and participated 622 00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:52,390 in the days meetings. There's pros and cons, I'm sure, but I think Tyler did a good job 623 00:54:52,390 --> 00:55:02,010 that City of Oswadamy has a separate entity from county government. So they control inside 624 00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:09,830 there are city limits, they have separate elected officials that make their decisions. 625 00:55:10,690 --> 00:55:19,750 Now I personally fully understand that the city and the county meet at this line and 626 00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:26,630 it's affecting some of you close to the city limits, so I certainly understand that. 627 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:46,830 But if we have to understand the process that Oathwater Me elected, there's city council, there's city council voted to have this day to center, and that appears that's the direction it's going. 628 00:55:46,830 --> 00:55:57,310 But as the county, we need to be thinking about the unincorporated area of the county because we could get approached any day. 629 00:55:57,330 --> 00:56:05,830 So I propose a motion to have a moratorium on data centers in Miami County for at least two years. 630 00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:28,370 And pending and instruct our county administrator and our legal counsel to draft a resolution that we can pass next week at the latest in two weeks that we don't run Osuadame. 631 00:56:28,370 --> 00:56:31,670 We like working with those who ought to me. 632 00:56:32,250 --> 00:56:39,330 We like to help those who ought to me, but they went this direction on the data center and 633 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:46,350 they have every right to do by the people who ought to be elected to be on their city council 634 00:56:46,350 --> 00:56:48,530 and vote on this topic. 635 00:56:49,710 --> 00:56:55,790 That didn't stop you from going to their meetings and stating your desires and requests. 636 00:56:55,790 --> 00:57:02,410 But I think we all got to understand the process, but I'm concerned about all the cities 637 00:57:02,410 --> 00:57:10,910 in Miami County moving forward, but our job right here, the cities are in the county, 638 00:57:11,410 --> 00:57:18,730 but the cities have jurisdiction over their own city limits, and we can't ever blur those 639 00:57:18,730 --> 00:57:25,770 lines, but yet the county wants to work with the cities at all time, because it's good 640 00:57:25,770 --> 00:57:31,630 for the whole county and our county's nothing without the cities and it's nothing without 641 00:57:31,630 --> 00:57:33,490 the unincorporated part. 642 00:57:34,030 --> 00:57:42,070 So that's my motion to have a more touring among data centers in the unincorporated part 643 00:57:42,070 --> 00:57:47,230 of the county where we do have jurisdiction and we can't go through the process. 644 00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:57,670 I just think Miami County isn't ready with if somebody walked in the day and wanted 645 00:57:57,670 --> 00:58:08,050 the day to center we wouldn't have the process to analyze it to our zoning rules aren't 646 00:58:08,050 --> 00:58:21,330 to speak for that and it would probably turn into a CUP and with conditions on it and it 647 00:58:21,330 --> 00:58:28,690 Bobby go in the I-2 category and can we bundle that with solar and when we've already 648 00:58:33,090 --> 00:58:42,110 I'd be friendly with that motion on wind and solar, and I might even add battery plants. 649 00:58:42,730 --> 00:58:45,630 There are another thing too that's coming down the pipe. 650 00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:51,350 So that would be, and I don't think you will check with our legal counsel. 651 00:58:51,350 --> 00:59:00,190 I don't know about, I think there does have to be a time limit on it and you can't just say forever. 652 00:59:00,690 --> 00:59:06,750 You got to keep analyzing it, keep evaluating it, keep way in the pros and cons. 653 00:59:07,410 --> 00:59:15,250 So that's my motion to have a moratorium on when solar data centers and battery storage. 654 00:59:15,250 --> 00:59:25,550 Check out pending a, uh, us passing a, uh, resolution in the next week or two and have our legal 655 00:59:25,550 --> 00:59:27,330 counsel draw that up. 656 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:29,580 Yeah. 657 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,100 Okay. 658 00:59:30,140 --> 00:59:32,060 You got a motion by commission of breaths. 659 00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:37,520 You got a second by a commission of a dedicated, now we're ready for further discussion. 660 00:59:44,250 --> 00:59:52,710 would, I guess I would say I will vote for this motion I agree, but I understand 661 00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:59,850 also want to be in their desire to grow their economy and, you know. 662 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,920 I hope that they can look at this, maybe refocus on this, I don't know whether or not in the process, but yeah. 663 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,840 And yeah, I might just say, that's, that's also why it means business. 664 01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:29,980 And, and, you know, we've always stressed that the real economic development is going to be in the towns where they do have the 665 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:39,740 utilities of electricity, water, and sewer. So that's where your economic development goes. 666 01:00:42,380 --> 01:00:48,680 So, probably knowing that companies hire very sophisticated lobbyists and representatives 667 01:00:48,680 --> 01:01:01,320 that are probably making it look pretty enticing. So, this is in no way stepping on the city 668 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:14,380 I was so out of me, because I represent the, I was so out of me and understand the process of their elected officials have the right to do what they vote on. 669 01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:15,700 Any further discussion? 670 01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:17,760 Yes. 671 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:28,520 Just offer from the standpoint when we included the solar and wind aspect of it in, because I believe there's a moratorium that's been in place for two 672 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:34,480 not three years on solar, they can't go indefinite. I think it would be prudent to probably 673 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:41,540 have the county counselor look into that a little bit further and have him attend on the 674 01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:48,680 first Wednesday and March and present the resolutions and his findings because otherwise you'd 675 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:54,520 be looking at a four or five year moratorium on solar and you've never taken any actions to do anything 676 01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:01,640 with it and if we're going to do a taking of property rights we'd probably want to ensure that 677 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,100 we're on the ground and we do that. 678 01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:05,180 Good advice. 679 01:02:06,260 --> 01:02:08,720 I think everybody's friendly with that. 680 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,820 We're going to have that Alex come down that Wednesday. 681 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,620 Maybe next Wednesday. 682 01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:16,660 The following one. 683 01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:17,640 I don't. 684 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,060 Third. 685 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,980 Hard to speak for someone else's working encounter but I have a suspicion with all that's 686 01:02:23,980 --> 01:02:28,440 that you're asking for. It's probably a two-week task there with them. 687 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,600 Okay. Yeah. 688 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,160 No, this is going to happen in the snap of a finger in terms of somebody showed up tomorrow 689 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,380 to develop in any home so let's go. 690 01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:46,600 I think everybody's friendly to the same work. We're kind of zeroing. Zeroing in on data centers 691 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:55,700 at this point, and go by legal counsel advice on solar and wind and battery storage, 692 01:02:57,260 --> 01:02:58,600 everybody friendly with them. 693 01:02:59,980 --> 01:03:00,340 All right. 694 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,680 Any further discussion? 695 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:10,960 Once again, my feelings on this, I don't think the county is prepared or he evaluated it 696 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:17,960 long enough if the data center would come in and propose to build one today. 697 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,260 So, we better get ready. 698 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,980 All right, all in favour, aye? 699 01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:28,100 All opposed saying sign, unanimous approval. 700 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:38,600 We'll wait for legal counsel and the resolution for final approval. 701 01:03:39,540 --> 01:03:40,120 All right. 702 01:03:40,220 --> 01:03:41,100 Thank you. 703 01:03:41,740 --> 01:03:43,360 Any other commissioner comments? 704 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,680 Sing none, is there any need for executive session? 705 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:56,720 Sing none, we will adjourn the meeting at 159.