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>>commissioner bastien:

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>>commissioner bermudez:

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present.

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>>commissioner regalado:

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>>commissioner gilbert:

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>> 4 members present, we have a

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quorum.

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>>commissioner gilbert:

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>> pledge of allegiance to the

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flag of the united states of

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america and to the republic for

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which it stands one nation

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under GOD indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>>commissioner gilbert: a

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reasonable opportunity to be

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heard is open, if you have

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business comments regarding an

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agenda item you would like to

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be heard on please approach the

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podium, give me your name

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address and I will give you two

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minutes and then we will be

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No one approaching, reasonable

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opportunity to be heard is now

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closed, MADAM Attorney.

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>> a motion to set the agenda

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will be in order.

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>>commissioner gilbert: moved

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by commissioner bastien, second

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by commissioner regalado, all

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those in favor say aye, all

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those opposed, so the agenda

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adopted, first order of

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business.

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>> there are no additional

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changes your agenda other than

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those on the changes agenda

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which include the adoption of

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1g2 supplement, 1g1.

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>>chair: public hearing is

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open.

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>> MAY I read the title?

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1g1 relates to passenger motor

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vehicles amending section 31

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102107 of the code of miami

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florida revising vehicle age

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climates for motor carrier

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vehicles and making technical

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conforming changes providing

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severability and an effective

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date, 1g1 is a public hearing.

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>>chair: public hearing is

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open, anyone wish to be heard

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on 1g1, public hearing is

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close.

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I see you, you don't want to

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>>commissioner regalado: I want

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to hear from the

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administration, I voted against

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this one.

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and one of the reasons is it

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could negatively impact the

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city of miami so I know they

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have older trolleys.

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the sponsor was modeled after

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something past by coral gables

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but obviously there's a cost

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associated with these

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requirements so I want to hear

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from staff in terms of any

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changes that have been made to

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the item and if we've talked to

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our partners about potentially

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city of miami owns their

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trolleys, a lot of them are

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older than this and also how

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would it impact us?

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>> thank you through the chair,

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stacy miller department of

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commissioner tran seven she is

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amendment to this item.

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Unfortunately she's not here

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now, she will be working with

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the attorney's office to make

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this modification.

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It hasn't been proffered yet.

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>>chair: on asking them to

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speak out of turn.

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>>commissioner regalado: is a

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sunshine meeting so we are all

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good.

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>>chair: there is no thing

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against telling me what an

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amendment is in a properly

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noticed meeting or I can make

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the amendment for her.

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>> I've not received that

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communication yet.

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>>chair: let's roll this item,

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until the end of the agenda.

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I want to talk to the

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commissioner, let's go to the

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>> next item is 1g2 relating to

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development zone amending

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section 33 c2 and 33 3.3 of the

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code miami-dade county

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augmenting the smart zone to a

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compass certain properties on

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west 30th avenue located within

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a quarter-mile of a public

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transit station providing

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criteria related to public

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benefits which allows for

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certain development bonuses for

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severability inclusion in the

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code and an effective date.

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>>chair: public hearing is

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open, public hearing is closed.

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>>commissioner regalado: move

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>>chair: it's been moved by

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commissioner regalado, second

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by commissioner bastien,

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anything the commission wants

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to add hearing nothing call the

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>>commissioner bastien:

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>> motion passes unanimously.

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>> next item is 1g3, amendment

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to the implementation plan ptp

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directive will actively include

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the purchase of 40 foot buses

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for I-95 phase 1 and two

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project funded in part by

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charter county transportation

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surtax funds, this is a public

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>>chair: public hearing on 1g3

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is open, public hearing on 1g3

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is closed.

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Administration I guess this is

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>> commissioner we only ask for

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this to be considered to be

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waived till JULY 21 for full

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consideration of the board.

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>>chair: first you asked for us

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to pass it and then you want us

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to waive it.

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I don't have a problem but let

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me help, there's a new

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>>commissioner regalado: yes,

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we need to explain why.

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>>chair: I don't mind signing

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the memo but you have to

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prepare the memo so we have to

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provide an explanation and the

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explanation probably has to be

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not only why it needs to

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advance but why it's just

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I think that's what it has to

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be so it's not as easy as it

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was before but let's get

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through passing it first, no

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questions.

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Extended seconded.

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Call the roll.

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>> motion passes unanimously.

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>>chair: what is next.

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>>commissioner regalado: we are

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going to talk about the budget,

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it's going to be great.

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>>chair: where is stacy at?

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What's the item I added on for

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you?

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The underline, we can take

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everything together, I just

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want to be shown on that.

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Just to be nice to regalado.

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So that we will take the

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balance of that.

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>>commissioner regalado: I will

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move the balance of the agenda

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with the exception of 3k.

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>>chair: all those in favor say

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bermudez, all those in favor

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signify by saying aye, show me

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as a no.

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It's been passed.

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>>commissioner regalado: do you

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want to discuss the budget

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while we wait for the

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amendment?

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>>chair: is someone calling the

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commissioners office?

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curiosity.

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An abundance of curiosity.

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Let's go, budget.

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MADAM Director.

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>> I would like to provide you

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all with a brief overview of

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information that was utilized

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to develop dgp w's budget

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moving into this season.

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As you can see we have our

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vision and mission statement,

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obviously our goal is to

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provide safe and efficient

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transportation for all users.

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We are the largest transit

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agency within the state of

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florida and 10th largest in the

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country with a budget of over

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$2.2 billion.

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And a dedicated workforce of

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4241 persons.

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obviously involve a multitude

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of different functions.

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Last year's boardings eclipsed

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81 million with the largest

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number obviously within our bus

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services.

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Public works operations

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obviously we are the department

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of transportation which is an

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intrinsic component.

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We oversee roadways, bridges,

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traffic signals and signs,

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pavement markings, streetlights

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and of course we took over

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stormwater utility and

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maintenance of canals.

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conductivity for not just miami

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dade county but for south

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As well as regulate the four

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hire industry.

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We have many customers but we

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are committed to making sure we

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are an essential function of

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our economy.

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Most people talk about the

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airport and seaport, those

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don't function without the road

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bridge and transit network to

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support them.

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within miami dade county and we

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are committed to accessibility

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and safety are all vulnerable

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road users and as noted our

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infrastructure is the

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underpinning of a successful

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delivery of vital services.

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Some key accomplishments for

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the launch of our smart

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program, first milestone

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project of south corridor which

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launched OCTOBER 27.

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This has been a major

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improvement for south county

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and we are excited about that.

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Midyear assistance we

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established a mobility sourcing

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program which allows us to go

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to original manufacturers for

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items which quickly shortens

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the timeframe for procurement.

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And we continue to work on

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transit amenities which

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recently assisted us with some

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key issues.

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Transit funding shortfalls,

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this has been an issue looming

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for over 10 years.

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We have approximately a $100

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billion shortfall moving into

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the fiscal year 27.

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The mayor has proposed a

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solution for fiscal year 27 and

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I know we all look forward to

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those solutions for next year

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and years forward.

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We have an infrastructure

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backlog of over $1 billion of

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needs.

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We have workforce vacancy

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issues approximately 20% right

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now and aging technology, we

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continue to work with you all

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to make sure we can update our

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technology and provide a better

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user experience for our

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patrons.

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>>chair: let's stop here for a

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second, you talked about the

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shortfall.

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And I appreciate, describe for

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us exactly what you mean by a

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shortfall because the way I

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understand our transit system

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right now, we don't have a

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shortfall.

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We are designed in a way that

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requires us to supplement from

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the general fund

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transportation.

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Shortfall seems to indicate

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that there's something we could

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do to make that up.

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And I don't know that there is

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something we could actually do

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to make it up.

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i think our system public

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transit generally through the

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country is not designed to pay

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for it self.

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Sometimes we use this

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nomenclature and vocabulary

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that says that it kind of

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indicates that it's running a

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deficit, it's not running a

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deficit, there's no shortfall.

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We planted in a way to allow

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the public generally to move

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korea a public generally could

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not pay the cost of the bus

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ride, the people who need to

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take the bus could not pay the

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cost of the bus ride so we plan

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our system in a way to

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supplement that.

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Hen we start

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using words like shortfall I

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would have the administration

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to look at the vocabulary we

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are using so we could properly

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inform the public about how the

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system operates and how it's

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designed to operate.

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Because if we were actually to

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do this like proprietary

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systems, it would look

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completely different.

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This is not proprietary.

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It's not meant to be.

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A proprietary, our proprietary

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systems are designed so the

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users pay for the service.

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Though users are not meant to

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pay for the full service of

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this system.

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So I know you have your whole

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nice presentation, you spent a

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lot of time on this I can tell

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so I'm not asking you to change

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it now but let's get into the

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habit of speaking about

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transportation or our transit

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system in a way that does not

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compare it to our proprietary

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systems so we aren't doing that

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and we aren't intentionally

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misleading the public but we

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are misleading the public about

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what public transit is meant to

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do.

401
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Regalado.

402
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>>commissioner regalado: I want

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to add to that it's important

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for us to consider that in the

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last two years we have not

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received as much funding from

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the state as we have in the

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past.

409
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Not your fault, not my fault.

410
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I think there were promises

411
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made and we were expecting a

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lot more funding from the

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state.

414
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That is not the case.

415
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This year we were even

416
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conservative in our ask and we

417
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still didn't get it so that's

418
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the first one.

419
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And also we had the transit 16s

420
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and the work you've done on

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that rtz has benefited the tid

422
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but we've been drawing down on

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the tid.

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As our needs and our

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maintenance increases we've

426
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been drawing down on the tid.

427
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We had a lot of deferred

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maintenance and I think the

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administration for working on

430
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that.

431
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For those of us that represent

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part of the metrorail these are

433
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30+ year old stations.

434
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In the case of my district I've

435
00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,752
done a lot to have developers

436
00:15:52,752 --> 00:15:55,752
pay for some of that.

437
00:15:57,890 --> 00:15:59,892
But we still have dade land and

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the transfer station and things

439
00:16:01,590 --> 00:16:04,590
that are way beyond anything

440
00:16:11,436 --> 00:16:13,438
that zoning could negotiate.

441
00:16:13,438 --> 00:16:14,438
So I think it's a combination

442
00:16:14,438 --> 00:16:16,240
of things.

443
00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,242
We talked about how this was

444
00:16:18,242 --> 00:16:19,243
going to be a difficult year,

445
00:16:19,243 --> 00:16:20,444
four years ago and

446
00:16:20,444 --> 00:16:22,312
unfortunately while the rapid

447
00:16:22,312 --> 00:16:24,281
transit zone has aided with the

448
00:16:24,281 --> 00:16:24,648
tid, we still don't have a

449
00:16:24,648 --> 00:16:26,383
revenue source.

450
00:16:26,383 --> 00:16:28,285
We are still at a loss.

451
00:16:28,285 --> 00:16:29,452
We subsidize 80% of this and I

452
00:16:29,452 --> 00:16:31,254
agree with the CHAIRMAN.

453
00:16:31,254 --> 00:16:33,255
We need to be honest with

454
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people about the level of the

455
00:16:33,489 --> 00:16:35,391
subsidy.

456
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And our commitment to transit.

457
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So I'm with you.

458
00:16:54,375 --> 00:16:55,576
I think when we talk about

459
00:16:55,576 --> 00:16:57,512
transit we should be mindful of

460
00:16:57,512 --> 00:16:59,447
the terminology we use to speak

461
00:16:59,447 --> 00:17:01,349
of our commitment because our

462
00:17:01,349 --> 00:17:02,349
commitment is from the general

463
00:17:02,349 --> 00:17:02,850
fund.

464
00:17:02,850 --> 00:17:04,451
That's where we are at.

465
00:17:04,451 --> 00:17:05,619
We get a little bit from here

466
00:17:05,619 --> 00:17:07,521
and from there but all in all

467
00:17:07,521 --> 00:17:09,356
we have been taking from the

468
00:17:09,356 --> 00:17:09,923
general fund from its

469
00:17:09,923 --> 00:17:11,923
inception.

470
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So I think that is a necessary

471
00:17:16,529 --> 00:17:17,597
point.

472
00:17:17,597 --> 00:17:18,598
It's not anything this

473
00:17:18,598 --> 00:17:20,566
commission is doing.

474
00:17:20,566 --> 00:17:21,767
We've gone above and beyond for

475
00:17:21,767 --> 00:17:23,736
the maintenance and operation

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00:17:23,736 --> 00:17:25,639
which I think is important to

477
00:17:25,639 --> 00:17:28,639
our users because it impacts

478
00:17:30,510 --> 00:17:32,345
the level of service.

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Class I'll finish my last

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00:17:33,513 --> 00:17:35,515
couple of slides, thank you.

481
00:17:35,515 --> 00:17:37,450
As noted understood regarding

482
00:17:37,450 --> 00:17:38,352
the verbiage we use going

483
00:17:38,352 --> 00:17:40,352
forward.

484
00:17:47,661 --> 00:17:48,862
Discussing our priorities, our

485
00:17:48,862 --> 00:17:50,764
initiatives that we continue to

486
00:17:50,764 --> 00:17:52,700
do and have done in the past

487
00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:53,733
our marketing program for drive

488
00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:54,801
less lives more as an

489
00:17:54,801 --> 00:17:57,104
opportunity we used to

490
00:17:57,104 --> 00:17:57,872
interface with the community

491
00:17:57,872 --> 00:17:59,740
and to talk about how we run

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00:17:59,740 --> 00:18:00,674
our business, gather our

493
00:18:00,674 --> 00:18:01,875
feedback.

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00:18:01,875 --> 00:18:06,750
We've used it as well not just

495
00:18:10,418 --> 00:18:12,319
in the drive less, live more

496
00:18:12,319 --> 00:18:13,453
but fill in the blank more.

497
00:18:13,453 --> 00:18:15,323
we've used it for a lot of

498
00:18:15,323 --> 00:18:16,490
different opportunities.

499
00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:17,458
It's been a great marketing

500
00:18:17,458 --> 00:18:19,327
program for us.

501
00:18:19,327 --> 00:18:23,230
We are in the process of our

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00:18:23,230 --> 00:18:25,233
asset inventory and condition

503
00:18:25,233 --> 00:18:26,434
assessment, something the

504
00:18:26,434 --> 00:18:28,336
commission approved previously.

505
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We are starting to gain that

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00:18:30,238 --> 00:18:31,406
data and that will help us make

507
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better engineering decisions

508
00:18:33,307 --> 00:18:35,176
about our priorities, it's the

509
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first opportunity for

510
00:18:36,311 --> 00:18:38,180
miami-dade to have a full

511
00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:40,181
accounting of our assets as it

512
00:18:40,181 --> 00:18:42,183
relates to our infrastructure

513
00:18:42,183 --> 00:18:43,418
within the department of

514
00:18:43,418 --> 00:18:45,187
transportation and public works

515
00:18:45,187 --> 00:18:47,189
and we are winding down

516
00:18:47,189 --> 00:18:48,390
construction for the south dade

517
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:50,358
transit operations center, the

518
00:18:50,358 --> 00:18:52,194
first new operations center in

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40 years and this supports

520
00:18:54,162 --> 00:18:55,364
obviously the health or radar

521
00:18:55,364 --> 00:18:57,299
and other bus routes that will

522
00:18:57,299 --> 00:18:59,201
occur in the south county area.

523
00:18:59,201 --> 00:18:59,401
That should be completed in the

524
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fall.

525
00:19:02,804 --> 00:19:04,706
Our future outlook as was noted

526
00:19:04,706 --> 00:19:05,875
we use the word funding

527
00:19:05,875 --> 00:19:07,843
shortfalls, I won't be using

528
00:19:07,843 --> 00:19:09,712
that anymore but we have known

529
00:19:09,712 --> 00:19:12,712
about this looming funding gap

530
00:19:13,949 --> 00:19:15,949
in our budget.

531
00:19:15,985 --> 00:19:17,955
We continue to work with the

532
00:19:17,955 --> 00:19:19,822
office of management and budget

533
00:19:19,822 --> 00:19:21,824
as well as the administration

534
00:19:21,824 --> 00:19:26,624
and you all to find a means of

535
00:19:34,871 --> 00:19:36,873
modifying how we move forward

536
00:19:36,873 --> 00:19:38,742
with our operations and capital

537
00:19:38,742 --> 00:19:38,975
funding shortfalls in the

538
00:19:38,975 --> 00:19:40,877
future.

539
00:19:40,877 --> 00:19:41,911
I won't use that word, sorry I

540
00:19:41,911 --> 00:19:44,311
used it, we apologize.

541
00:19:44,747 --> 00:19:45,849
We continue to find wise 305

542
00:19:45,849 --> 00:19:46,984
opportunities as we move

543
00:19:46,984 --> 00:19:47,985
forward and we believe there

544
00:19:47,985 --> 00:19:50,385
are more to come.

545
00:20:01,832 --> 00:20:03,834
We believe we will have the

546
00:20:03,834 --> 00:20:05,169
opportunity to provide better

547
00:20:05,169 --> 00:20:06,370
scheduling and reduce our costs

548
00:20:06,370 --> 00:20:07,972
in the future.

549
00:20:07,972 --> 00:20:08,172
We have just started to use

550
00:20:08,172 --> 00:20:09,874
that.

551
00:20:09,874 --> 00:20:11,575
We are using planning

552
00:20:11,575 --> 00:20:12,910
frameworks, our new county

553
00:20:12,910 --> 00:20:14,110
master plan which we are using

554
00:20:14,110 --> 00:20:14,978
to help us make better

555
00:20:14,978 --> 00:20:16,800
decisions.

556
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,949
We also have master plans for

557
00:20:17,949 --> 00:20:20,170
our escalator elevator and

558
00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:20,918
other facilities as we move

559
00:20:20,918 --> 00:20:22,918
forward.

560
00:20:23,521 --> 00:20:25,890
Happy to answer any questions.

561
00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:27,920
>>chair: commissioner bermudez.

562
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,600
>>commissioner bermudez: I

563
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,895
agree with you that obviously

564
00:20:30,895 --> 00:20:32,960
no public transportation in

565
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,650
this country that I know of of

566
00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:36,680
major size can operate without,

567
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,803
it can operate, or breakeven

568
00:20:38,803 --> 00:20:39,904
that's just a reality but I

569
00:20:39,904 --> 00:20:41,172
want to talk about something,

570
00:20:41,172 --> 00:20:43,107
the difference between transit

571
00:20:43,107 --> 00:20:44,420
and traffic and your department

572
00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:45,977
has to do both.

573
00:20:45,977 --> 00:20:48,460
We can argue until the end of

574
00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:49,180
the day about whether it should

575
00:20:49,180 --> 00:20:51,490
or shouldn't but the reality is

576
00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:52,884
a large part of this county

577
00:20:52,884 --> 00:20:54,180
deals with traffic, the other

578
00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:55,888
part deals with transit.

579
00:20:55,888 --> 00:20:57,156
Issues to the east have been

580
00:20:57,156 --> 00:20:59,240
more referenced transit but to

581
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,893
the west it's been traffic.

582
00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:03,293
Where many people live.

583
00:21:06,298 --> 00:21:07,466
So I would ask you and I think

584
00:21:07,466 --> 00:21:09,301
that's important because as you

585
00:21:09,301 --> 00:21:10,202
move forward you have to keep

586
00:21:10,202 --> 00:21:12,202
that in mind.

587
00:21:12,204 --> 00:21:13,372
That doesn't make your job any

588
00:21:13,372 --> 00:21:15,175
easier, it probably makes it

589
00:21:15,175 --> 00:21:17,210
more complicated but the

590
00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:19,245
reality is our system is trying

591
00:21:19,245 --> 00:21:20,379
to.

592
00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:22,481
It's not maybe what MAY happen

593
00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:24,383
in other cities traditionally

594
00:21:24,383 --> 00:21:26,386
in the northeast for example

595
00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:28,254
where there's always a traffic

596
00:21:28,254 --> 00:21:30,256
issue but more of a transit

597
00:21:30,256 --> 00:21:31,391
issue and in our case it's a

598
00:21:31,391 --> 00:21:33,259
composite of both korea for

599
00:21:33,259 --> 00:21:34,527
growth to occur where growth

600
00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:36,463
has occurred it needs to happen

601
00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:38,231
and I've been a stickler with

602
00:21:38,231 --> 00:21:39,432
the administration and

603
00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:41,401
reiterated to you that one of

604
00:21:41,401 --> 00:21:44,604
my concerns is always a lack of

605
00:21:44,604 --> 00:21:44,804
metrics, the lack of knowing

606
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:46,673
where.

607
00:21:46,673 --> 00:21:48,642
It drives me crazy when we set

608
00:21:48,642 --> 00:21:49,843
up here and there's things that

609
00:21:49,843 --> 00:21:51,711
pop up from 2013 and 2014 and

610
00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:53,646
nobody knows where it's at.

611
00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,616
First of all in both instances,

612
00:21:55,616 --> 00:21:55,849
first of all do you have

613
00:21:55,849 --> 00:21:57,617
metrics?

614
00:21:57,617 --> 00:22:01,217
And some make sense like how

615
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:02,823
long does it take to fill a

616
00:22:02,823 --> 00:22:04,724
pothole but are the metrics

617
00:22:04,724 --> 00:22:06,427
being followed, are there

618
00:22:06,427 --> 00:22:06,594
metrics, are they being looked

619
00:22:06,594 --> 00:22:08,594
at?

620
00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:31,986
That's one of my questions.

621
00:22:31,986 --> 00:22:33,888
Claps through the chair we have

622
00:22:33,888 --> 00:22:35,891
metrics associated with the

623
00:22:35,891 --> 00:22:37,125
time when we receive I want to

624
00:22:37,125 --> 00:22:39,270
say complaint but an issue till

625
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:40,862
the time we complete it but we

626
00:22:40,862 --> 00:22:43,300
are wholly underfunded for

627
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:44,866
sidewalk improvements, pothole

628
00:22:44,866 --> 00:22:46,901
filling and resurfacing, we are

629
00:22:46,901 --> 00:22:48,903
about $1 billion behind on

630
00:22:48,903 --> 00:22:50,710
maintenance and improvements

631
00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:52,471
associated with our existing

632
00:22:52,907 --> 00:22:54,209
road and bridge network.

633
00:22:54,209 --> 00:22:56,780
>>commissioner bermudez: that's

634
00:22:56,780 --> 00:22:57,913
a big concern because a lot of

635
00:22:57,913 --> 00:22:59,915
times we're talking about

636
00:22:59,915 --> 00:23:01,830
things like the underline and I

637
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:03,170
support it, I have no problem

638
00:23:03,170 --> 00:23:04,886
but a vast part of this county

639
00:23:04,886 --> 00:23:06,122
and not just my district going

640
00:23:06,122 --> 00:23:08,123
south to the west is impacted

641
00:23:08,123 --> 00:23:09,191
as a combination of both, it's

642
00:23:09,191 --> 00:23:11,126
not just a matter of one.

643
00:23:11,126 --> 00:23:12,961
I think that's something we

644
00:23:12,961 --> 00:23:14,529
need to kind of focus on and

645
00:23:14,529 --> 00:23:15,198
not always make it eastern

646
00:23:15,198 --> 00:23:17,330
centric as it is.

647
00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:18,901
talking about these old things

648
00:23:18,901 --> 00:23:20,903
that have been approved and

649
00:23:20,903 --> 00:23:22,370
what happened to them, the bus

650
00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:24,373
depot on 14th and 15th street

651
00:23:24,373 --> 00:23:24,640
here by the old miami herald

652
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,509
building.

653
00:23:26,509 --> 00:23:28,411
What's happening with that?

654
00:23:28,411 --> 00:23:29,512
Because way before most of us

655
00:23:29,512 --> 00:23:30,579
got hear their was money

656
00:23:30,579 --> 00:23:32,682
awarded to fix that.

657
00:23:32,682 --> 00:23:35,820
And what's going on?

658
00:23:38,288 --> 00:23:40,222
Does anybody know?

659
00:23:40,222 --> 00:23:42,191
Claps I apologize, I do not

660
00:23:42,191 --> 00:23:45,191
have that information but I

661
00:23:46,930 --> 00:23:48,198
will find out.

662
00:23:48,198 --> 00:23:50,660
>>commissioner bermudez: this

663
00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:51,935
is not a criticism of anybody

664
00:23:51,935 --> 00:23:54,935
that's been here before, I'm

665
00:23:55,272 --> 00:23:57,174
sure there watching and they

666
00:23:57,174 --> 00:23:58,408
can enjoy it but one of the big

667
00:23:58,408 --> 00:24:00,277
problems I've seen and now as

668
00:24:00,277 --> 00:24:02,145
our CHAIRMAN Goes on to bigger

669
00:24:02,145 --> 00:24:05,145
and better things, bigger, I

670
00:24:07,484 --> 00:24:09,486
don't know about better but the

671
00:24:09,486 --> 00:24:10,754
reality is a lot of times that

672
00:24:10,754 --> 00:24:12,589
headaches we inherited have

673
00:24:12,589 --> 00:24:13,757
been around for 20 to 25 years

674
00:24:13,757 --> 00:24:15,626
including the transportation

675
00:24:15,626 --> 00:24:17,495
plan because CHAIRMAN Gilbert

676
00:24:17,495 --> 00:24:18,662
remembers we were both in

677
00:24:18,662 --> 00:24:19,730
elected office when this plan

678
00:24:19,730 --> 00:24:21,699
came up a long time ago.

679
00:24:21,699 --> 00:24:22,466
And we are still talking about

680
00:24:22,466 --> 00:24:23,667
it.

681
00:24:23,667 --> 00:24:25,603
One of the problems I see and I

682
00:24:25,603 --> 00:24:27,472
point that out if you could

683
00:24:27,472 --> 00:24:31,720
look into it because we can't

684
00:24:38,983 --> 00:24:40,985
just, these things get lost in

685
00:24:40,985 --> 00:24:41,986
the netherworld of county

686
00:24:41,986 --> 00:24:43,321
politics.

687
00:24:43,321 --> 00:24:44,855
Then they pop up out of the

688
00:24:44,855 --> 00:24:46,910
blue and everybody points

689
00:24:46,910 --> 00:24:47,893
fingers in each direction but

690
00:24:47,893 --> 00:24:48,860
there has to be some sort of

691
00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:49,961
accounting.

692
00:24:49,961 --> 00:24:51,896
It's kind of like knowing

693
00:24:51,896 --> 00:24:53,932
what's under your airports not

694
00:24:53,932 --> 00:24:55,834
having a private company know

695
00:24:55,834 --> 00:24:57,350
under your airport but you

696
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:58,903
don't know what's under your

697
00:24:58,903 --> 00:25:00,839
airport which is a problem so

698
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:01,906
if you could check into that I

699
00:25:01,906 --> 00:25:03,740
would appreciate it.

700
00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:05,740
>>chair: that's great.

701
00:25:06,278 --> 00:25:07,546
It's interesting the memo the

702
00:25:07,546 --> 00:25:09,546
administration produced about

703
00:25:10,282 --> 00:25:12,251
the funding possibilities,

704
00:25:12,251 --> 00:25:14,190
that's something I requested as

705
00:25:14,190 --> 00:25:15,221
an interesting thing.

706
00:25:15,221 --> 00:25:17,221
It's especially interesting

707
00:25:20,926 --> 00:25:21,226
when we compare it with the

708
00:25:21,226 --> 00:25:23,226
possibility.

709
00:25:23,261 --> 00:25:24,930
We analyze it under the context

710
00:25:24,930 --> 00:25:26,650
of how much we supplement

711
00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:26,265
transit through the general

712
00:25:26,265 --> 00:25:28,265
fund.

713
00:25:29,235 --> 00:25:31,270
Then we add in the possibility

714
00:25:31,270 --> 00:25:34,270
of reducing the general fund

715
00:25:37,177 --> 00:25:38,445
with property tax reform.

716
00:25:38,445 --> 00:25:41,180
So we've been thinking about

717
00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:42,248
this from the perspective of

718
00:25:42,248 --> 00:25:43,382
rapid mass transit, the

719
00:25:43,382 --> 00:25:45,184
question isn't going to be

720
00:25:45,184 --> 00:25:45,285
rapid mass transit alone.

721
00:25:45,285 --> 00:25:47,186
He

722
00:25:47,186 --> 00:25:50,786
question will be how we operate

723
00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:54,930
this transit system at all.

724
00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:56,290
Because that's not one of the

725
00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:56,230
necessary things that we have

726
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:58,310
to do.

727
00:25:58,310 --> 00:26:00,266
Pretty soon there is going to

728
00:26:00,266 --> 00:26:03,837
have to be a reconciling of how

729
00:26:03,837 --> 00:26:06,237
we run the system.

730
00:26:07,808 --> 00:26:12,800
And the split that has to exist

731
00:26:21,522 --> 00:26:22,723
between the service that's

732
00:26:22,723 --> 00:26:24,624
provided and how it's funded

733
00:26:24,624 --> 00:26:25,960
with regard to whether it's

734
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,528
funded with a general tax

735
00:26:27,528 --> 00:26:28,729
through general taxes or

736
00:26:28,729 --> 00:26:31,729
whether it's funded through the

737
00:26:35,135 --> 00:26:35,370
people who actually use the

738
00:26:35,370 --> 00:26:37,138
system.

739
00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:38,305
That's the question that's

740
00:26:38,305 --> 00:26:39,306
actually going to be on the

741
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,242
ballot in NOVEMBER.

742
00:26:41,242 --> 00:26:42,376
You might not know that your

743
00:26:42,376 --> 00:26:44,144
answering that question but

744
00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:46,147
that's the question you're

745
00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:47,348
going to answer because if you

746
00:26:47,348 --> 00:26:49,150
institute property tax reform

747
00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:50,285
in a way that does not allow

748
00:26:50,285 --> 00:26:52,253
the general fund to support

749
00:26:52,253 --> 00:26:54,155
this transit system, you will

750
00:26:54,155 --> 00:26:56,158
be raising either raising the

751
00:26:56,158 --> 00:26:58,160
bus rate and metrorail rate or

752
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,394
you will be eliminating

753
00:26:59,394 --> 00:27:00,262
services, that is what you will

754
00:27:00,262 --> 00:27:01,930
be doing.

755
00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:03,932
And the administration probably

756
00:27:03,932 --> 00:27:04,999
needs to start having real

757
00:27:04,999 --> 00:27:07,399
honest and direct conversations

758
00:27:14,409 --> 00:27:16,412
about how that's going to look.

759
00:27:16,412 --> 00:27:18,314
Because everyone on this board

760
00:27:18,314 --> 00:27:19,415
and everyone in this building

761
00:27:19,415 --> 00:27:21,450
understands that we can't

762
00:27:21,450 --> 00:27:23,285
afford to take the level of it

763
00:27:23,285 --> 00:27:26,285
in transit through the general

764
00:27:26,289 --> 00:27:28,689
fund if that's contemplated.

765
00:27:28,991 --> 00:27:30,926
In that ballot initiative.

766
00:27:30,926 --> 00:27:31,861
We won't be able to run the

767
00:27:31,861 --> 00:27:33,629
system that way.

768
00:27:33,629 --> 00:27:35,629
We understand that.

769
00:27:35,631 --> 00:27:38,310
We'd probably better tell

770
00:27:38,701 --> 00:27:40,603
people that.

771
00:27:40,603 --> 00:27:44,203
Explain to them that they are

772
00:27:46,643 --> 00:27:48,645
paying, what is it, $0.11.

773
00:27:48,645 --> 00:27:51,645
Claps our return is 11 or $0.12

774
00:27:53,850 --> 00:27:55,786
on the dollar.

775
00:27:55,786 --> 00:27:56,954
>>chair: let's say 12, $0.12 of

776
00:27:56,954 --> 00:27:58,788
every dollar it takes to ride

777
00:27:58,788 --> 00:28:00,560
that bus.

778
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,560
So this board and this

779
00:28:05,529 --> 00:28:07,529
administration is not

780
00:28:07,531 --> 00:28:08,532
recommending an increase in the

781
00:28:08,532 --> 00:28:09,766
rate right now.

782
00:28:09,766 --> 00:28:13,966
But in truth, we are going to

783
00:28:26,918 --> 00:28:28,819
have to, we will need to find

784
00:28:28,819 --> 00:28:30,210
what we believe to be the

785
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:31,550
appropriate balance so we know

786
00:28:31,550 --> 00:28:32,990
it can never be 100%.

787
00:28:32,990 --> 00:28:33,924
We know that, is it $0.50 on

788
00:28:33,924 --> 00:28:35,924
every dollar?

789
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,928
Is it $0.60 on every dollar?

790
00:28:36,928 --> 00:28:38,829
Is it $0.70?

791
00:28:38,829 --> 00:28:40,264
On every dollar that we are

792
00:28:40,264 --> 00:28:41,866
going to supplement so in other

793
00:28:41,866 --> 00:28:42,967
words the people or using it

794
00:28:42,967 --> 00:28:44,868
and whatever it is it is.

795
00:28:44,868 --> 00:28:45,937
But the conversation needs to

796
00:28:45,937 --> 00:28:47,806
be had and we need to

797
00:28:47,806 --> 00:28:48,940
standardize it because if we

798
00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:51,340
don't, this system cannot

799
00:29:04,689 --> 00:29:06,591
sustain itself.

800
00:29:06,591 --> 00:29:07,592
And that's not counting what we

801
00:29:07,592 --> 00:29:09,528
know we have to do.

802
00:29:09,528 --> 00:29:10,762
We know that if we don't invest

803
00:29:10,762 --> 00:29:12,597
in a rapid transit, we know in

804
00:29:12,597 --> 00:29:14,532
40 years if we don't invest in

805
00:29:14,532 --> 00:29:15,801
rapid mass transit identifying

806
00:29:15,801 --> 00:29:17,669
these corridors, housing prices

807
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:19,538
and congestion will cripple

808
00:29:19,538 --> 00:29:20,639
this county eventually, we know

809
00:29:20,639 --> 00:29:22,541
that's what we have to do.

810
00:29:22,541 --> 00:29:23,775
But we are not prepared to do

811
00:29:23,775 --> 00:29:25,744
what we are doing right now, if

812
00:29:25,744 --> 00:29:27,612
the property tax initiative

813
00:29:27,612 --> 00:29:28,747
passes so that needs to be a

814
00:29:28,747 --> 00:29:30,548
real conversation because we

815
00:29:30,548 --> 00:29:32,550
are not some of these other

816
00:29:32,550 --> 00:29:33,551
counties that are small and

817
00:29:33,551 --> 00:29:34,852
insignificant.

818
00:29:34,852 --> 00:29:36,186
When we cripple our economy we

819
00:29:36,186 --> 00:29:36,420
actually change the state of

820
00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:38,420
florida.

821
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:42,690
And the department that you run

822
00:29:44,561 --> 00:29:46,530
and you will oversee is what

823
00:29:46,530 --> 00:29:49,530
allows the most recovered and

824
00:29:52,402 --> 00:29:52,602
robust economy in the state to

825
00:29:52,602 --> 00:29:54,437
exist.

826
00:29:54,437 --> 00:29:55,405
If you stop rapid mass transit

827
00:29:55,405 --> 00:29:56,606
or you make it cost

828
00:29:56,606 --> 00:29:58,174
substantially more, it's not

829
00:29:58,174 --> 00:30:00,174
just dade county.

830
00:30:16,491 --> 00:30:18,359
It's florida.

831
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:19,594
So we had probably be better

832
00:30:19,594 --> 00:30:21,462
having that conversation.

833
00:30:21,462 --> 00:30:23,330
The chamber is starting to talk

834
00:30:23,330 --> 00:30:24,599
about it because we don't

835
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:26,466
necessarily see it but how much

836
00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:28,468
we invest in public transit

837
00:30:28,468 --> 00:30:30,737
allows our businesses to thrive

838
00:30:30,737 --> 00:30:31,471
because they have workers who

839
00:30:31,471 --> 00:30:32,606
can come to work so it's a

840
00:30:32,606 --> 00:30:35,342
challenge we have to have a

841
00:30:35,342 --> 00:30:36,476
more active conversation.

842
00:30:36,476 --> 00:30:38,344
You've been doing a lot of

843
00:30:38,344 --> 00:30:39,545
talking in the corner, I

844
00:30:39,545 --> 00:30:40,513
haven't interrupted you, do you

845
00:30:40,513 --> 00:30:41,581
have an amendment?

846
00:30:41,581 --> 00:30:42,582
Okay.

847
00:30:42,582 --> 00:30:43,782
bastien.

848
00:30:43,782 --> 00:30:45,684
>>commissioner bastien: I

849
00:30:45,684 --> 00:30:46,886
wanted to say that I agree with

850
00:30:46,886 --> 00:30:49,286
commissioner gilbert and with

851
00:30:51,890 --> 00:30:53,890
my colleagues.

852
00:30:53,892 --> 00:30:55,260
This discussion needs to be had

853
00:30:55,260 --> 00:30:57,426
sooner rather than later.

854
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:02,630
I-4 one have so many residents

855
00:31:04,368 --> 00:31:07,705
and I know other colleagues who

856
00:31:07,705 --> 00:31:07,905
are experiencing the same

857
00:31:07,905 --> 00:31:09,774
thing.

858
00:31:09,774 --> 00:31:10,708
A lot of our residents are on

859
00:31:10,708 --> 00:31:11,709
fixed income.

860
00:31:11,709 --> 00:31:15,309
They will not be able to

861
00:31:15,879 --> 00:31:17,879
contribute much.

862
00:31:27,890 --> 00:31:29,125
So if we agree and we know

863
00:31:29,125 --> 00:31:31,600
transportation must find a way

864
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,529
to fund itself and there are so

865
00:31:33,529 --> 00:31:34,196
many residents that rely on

866
00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:36,932
these services to move around

867
00:31:36,932 --> 00:31:38,167
in my district I get calls from

868
00:31:38,167 --> 00:31:40,100
residents all the time who are

869
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:43,601
having a hard time because of

870
00:31:47,408 --> 00:31:49,444
the changes in the routes.

871
00:31:49,444 --> 00:31:51,279
They are really really having a

872
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,314
hard time because some of the

873
00:31:53,314 --> 00:31:54,482
elderly unfixed income rely on

874
00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:56,350
transportation, rely on the

875
00:31:56,350 --> 00:31:57,751
routes to go buy groceries and

876
00:31:57,751 --> 00:31:58,285
I receive these calls every

877
00:31:58,285 --> 00:31:59,453
day.

878
00:31:59,453 --> 00:32:01,321
We need to be proactive.

879
00:32:01,321 --> 00:32:04,321
Because every year we have

880
00:32:04,524 --> 00:32:04,758
people moving in to miami dade

881
00:32:04,758 --> 00:32:06,560
county.

882
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,961
So you have to balance the

883
00:32:07,961 --> 00:32:11,561
needs of the residents and the

884
00:32:18,871 --> 00:32:20,806
needs of those coming in for

885
00:32:20,806 --> 00:32:22,700
other places because they are

886
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:22,808
attracted by what we have to

887
00:32:22,808 --> 00:32:23,876
offer.

888
00:32:23,876 --> 00:32:24,142
I agree we need to be

889
00:32:24,142 --> 00:32:25,910
proactive.

890
00:32:25,910 --> 00:32:27,946
We need to really have this

891
00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:29,814
hard discussion sooner rather

892
00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:31,820
than later and another thing

893
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:32,984
I'd like us to really consider

894
00:32:32,984 --> 00:32:35,190
is to look at the contracts

895
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:39,219
that we give when we, to fix

896
00:32:39,423 --> 00:32:41,325
these roads.

897
00:32:41,325 --> 00:32:44,925
in the past I've talked about

898
00:32:46,396 --> 00:32:48,398
some of the changes,

899
00:32:48,398 --> 00:32:50,367
infrastructure changes in my

900
00:32:50,367 --> 00:32:51,601
district and how soon after we

901
00:32:51,601 --> 00:32:54,100
repair it MAY deteriorate.

902
00:32:56,806 --> 00:32:57,840
So these are also discussions

903
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,742
that we need to have.

904
00:32:59,742 --> 00:33:03,450
We have to do an overall

905
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:03,245
assessment of how we do this

906
00:33:03,245 --> 00:33:05,245
work.

907
00:33:07,283 --> 00:33:10,283
How we award these contracts.

908
00:33:11,887 --> 00:33:13,955
How we assess the work after

909
00:33:13,955 --> 00:33:18,155
it's done so that we don't have

910
00:33:26,167 --> 00:33:28,169
to continuously invest in

911
00:33:28,169 --> 00:33:29,169
repair for all the roads to

912
00:33:29,169 --> 00:33:30,370
deteriorate again.

913
00:33:30,370 --> 00:33:32,339
I think there's a lot of work

914
00:33:32,339 --> 00:33:34,174
to do and I agree with

915
00:33:34,174 --> 00:33:35,308
commissioner gilbert, these are

916
00:33:35,308 --> 00:33:38,308
discussions we need to have.

917
00:33:39,212 --> 00:33:40,413
We need to come to the fact

918
00:33:40,413 --> 00:33:42,214
that we have to find a way

919
00:33:42,214 --> 00:33:44,830
because so many of our

920
00:33:44,830 --> 00:33:46,483
residents cannot afford it.

921
00:33:48,788 --> 00:33:49,210
And transportation cannot fund

922
00:33:49,210 --> 00:33:51,210
itself.

923
00:33:56,995 --> 00:33:58,263
>>chair: thank you, regalado.

924
00:33:58,263 --> 00:33:59,998
>>commissioner regalado: I have

925
00:33:59,998 --> 00:34:01,998
a few questions.

926
00:34:04,168 --> 00:34:05,603
Commissioner gilbert mentioned,

927
00:34:05,603 --> 00:34:06,337
the CHAIRMAN Mentioned the

928
00:34:06,337 --> 00:34:08,306
smart plan medal.

929
00:34:08,306 --> 00:34:10,274
Thank you for putting that out,

930
00:34:10,274 --> 00:34:14,474
I think it was necessary and we

931
00:34:17,214 --> 00:34:19,116
all know that it was about time

932
00:34:19,116 --> 00:34:21,118
we actually put it out there

933
00:34:21,118 --> 00:34:21,418
and started talking about our

934
00:34:21,418 --> 00:34:23,320
challenges.

935
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,188
The one thing I wish that smart

936
00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:28,188
plan medal included was the

937
00:34:28,225 --> 00:34:29,292
opportunity to have enterprise

938
00:34:29,292 --> 00:34:30,160
departments do some of this

939
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,428
work.

940
00:34:31,428 --> 00:34:33,828
Specifically as I've mentioned

941
00:34:33,897 --> 00:34:35,131
at the tvo and I've mentioned

942
00:34:35,131 --> 00:34:38,131
it to the administration have

943
00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:45,209
an opportunity to put a

944
00:34:45,209 --> 00:34:47,378
tri-rail station at the port

945
00:34:47,378 --> 00:34:49,800
where the airport pays half and

946
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,281
the port pays half, it would be

947
00:34:50,281 --> 00:34:52,681
between 30 and 33 million and

948
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:54,218
it would give us access to the

949
00:34:54,218 --> 00:34:55,190
railroad we spent 80 million

950
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:56,221
on.

951
00:34:56,221 --> 00:34:58,220
This board already approved a

952
00:34:58,220 --> 00:34:59,224
station at little river.

953
00:34:59,224 --> 00:35:01,726
Then it goes to the port so why

954
00:35:01,726 --> 00:35:02,894
not do a port station and get a

955
00:35:02,894 --> 00:35:04,728
transit win without is coming

956
00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:06,731
out of the transit budget?

957
00:35:06,731 --> 00:35:07,966
Think we also need to get a

958
00:35:07,966 --> 00:35:09,901
little creative here in terms

959
00:35:09,901 --> 00:35:11,870
of places where we know that

960
00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:13,738
there is a need for transit.

961
00:35:13,738 --> 00:35:14,739
And there is enterprise funds

962
00:35:14,739 --> 00:35:17,139
that could do it.

963
00:35:17,643 --> 00:35:18,777
The idea to commissioner

964
00:35:18,777 --> 00:35:20,777
bermudez point about

965
00:35:39,131 --> 00:35:40,332
alleviating traffic, we have so

966
00:35:40,332 --> 00:35:42,201
much congestion between the

967
00:35:42,201 --> 00:35:43,135
airport and the port if we had

968
00:35:43,135 --> 00:35:44,136
a transit line.

969
00:35:44,136 --> 00:35:45,338
Hen this was

970
00:35:45,338 --> 00:35:47,340
presented it was $1 billion to

971
00:35:47,340 --> 00:35:49,141
extend metrorail, $1 billion to

972
00:35:49,141 --> 00:35:50,343
extend metro mover.

973
00:35:50,343 --> 00:35:52,211
That's madness, we don't have

974
00:35:52,211 --> 00:35:54,180
that kind of money but if we

975
00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:55,348
could do a tri-rail station for

976
00:35:55,348 --> 00:35:57,348
30 million student that.

977
00:35:58,118 --> 00:35:59,419
We have to start changing our

978
00:35:59,419 --> 00:36:01,287
mindset because what happens to

979
00:36:01,287 --> 00:36:03,122
us a lot of times is a lobbyist

980
00:36:03,122 --> 00:36:04,289
have to come and pitch the

981
00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:06,126
thing and we react to it as

982
00:36:06,126 --> 00:36:07,327
opposed to us saying wait a

983
00:36:07,327 --> 00:36:08,128
second, there's an opportunity

984
00:36:08,128 --> 00:36:09,229
here.

985
00:36:09,229 --> 00:36:12,829
I think we can have some

986
00:36:16,136 --> 00:36:18,105
transit that is a little

987
00:36:18,105 --> 00:36:18,338
different and I give that as an

988
00:36:18,338 --> 00:36:20,240
example.

989
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,208
And in little river we've got a

990
00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:24,143
tri-rail station built by the

991
00:36:24,143 --> 00:36:25,312
developer and that's because of

992
00:36:25,312 --> 00:36:26,247
the rtc which leads me to my

993
00:36:26,247 --> 00:36:28,247
second point.

994
00:36:28,448 --> 00:36:28,615
We have a dependence on the

995
00:36:28,615 --> 00:36:30,117
tid.

996
00:36:30,117 --> 00:36:31,318
now that the rtz has been in

997
00:36:31,318 --> 00:36:33,186
place for some time we need to

998
00:36:33,186 --> 00:36:35,121
look at the growth in the tid

999
00:36:35,121 --> 00:36:37,521
since we started these

1000
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:39,260
developments and start looking

1001
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:41,161
at where these developments

1002
00:36:41,161 --> 00:36:43,300
have come and what our options

1003
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:44,130
are for the places in the rtc

1004
00:36:44,130 --> 00:36:46,530
where we haven't seen

1005
00:36:56,277 --> 00:36:57,479
development so the rtz has seen

1006
00:36:57,479 --> 00:36:59,480
development in my district and

1007
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,449
a little bit in bastien's and

1008
00:37:01,449 --> 00:37:03,317
the question is MR. Chair do we

1009
00:37:03,317 --> 00:37:05,253
go back to the drawing table

1010
00:37:05,253 --> 00:37:06,321
and figure out what we do for

1011
00:37:06,321 --> 00:37:07,455
those other areas to

1012
00:37:07,455 --> 00:37:09,224
incentivize that development

1013
00:37:09,224 --> 00:37:11,126
and how do we capture that?

1014
00:37:11,126 --> 00:37:12,293
Ecause the growth of the tid

1015
00:37:12,293 --> 00:37:14,262
is what we need and for those

1016
00:37:14,262 --> 00:37:16,131
of us that have transit, we are

1017
00:37:16,131 --> 00:37:17,332
also having a tremendous amount

1018
00:37:17,332 --> 00:37:19,301
of development along those

1019
00:37:19,301 --> 00:37:20,335
transit lines and that money is

1020
00:37:20,335 --> 00:37:22,270
going into tid.

1021
00:37:22,270 --> 00:37:24,405
It's important to start having

1022
00:37:24,405 --> 00:37:26,342
that baseline conversation to

1023
00:37:26,342 --> 00:37:28,143
see where this is coming and

1024
00:37:28,143 --> 00:37:30,145
what changes we can make

1025
00:37:30,145 --> 00:37:31,212
because we have proven changes

1026
00:37:31,212 --> 00:37:34,212
to zoning can benefit our

1027
00:37:34,549 --> 00:37:36,452
transit system so let's keep

1028
00:37:36,452 --> 00:37:38,852
having that conversation, let's

1029
00:37:40,856 --> 00:37:42,724
not just leave it in a vacuum.

1030
00:37:42,724 --> 00:37:44,726
The other issue is the mover.

1031
00:37:44,726 --> 00:37:45,828
Will say it again, we should

1032
00:37:45,828 --> 00:37:48,228
charge for the mover.

1033
00:37:49,165 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaking of tri-rail we are

1034
00:37:50,399 --> 00:37:52,301
going throw whole process with

1035
00:37:52,301 --> 00:37:54,436
our fair collection and one of

1036
00:37:54,436 --> 00:37:56,339
the things we're looking at is

1037
00:37:56,339 --> 00:37:57,507
starting with digital first and

1038
00:37:57,507 --> 00:37:59,542
not the fair dates and this

1039
00:37:59,542 --> 00:38:01,644
board should seriously consider

1040
00:38:01,644 --> 00:38:05,244
starting with a pilot for the

1041
00:38:12,789 --> 00:38:13,890
mover that has a digital price

1042
00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:15,890
collection.

1043
00:38:15,792 --> 00:38:17,160
Those people are sophisticated

1044
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,795
enough over there in downtown

1045
00:38:18,795 --> 00:38:19,896
to be able to do it.

1046
00:38:19,896 --> 00:38:20,130
that will bring us some

1047
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:21,931
revenue.

1048
00:38:21,931 --> 00:38:23,833
We MAY not capture all of it

1049
00:38:23,833 --> 00:38:24,667
but we are capturing nothing.

1050
00:38:24,667 --> 00:38:26,503
So whatever we capture I think

1051
00:38:26,503 --> 00:38:28,405
it would be a benefit to us.

1052
00:38:28,405 --> 00:38:29,540
And we need to eliminate this

1053
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:31,940
idea of free transit.

1054
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:33,243
I've said this last budget,

1055
00:38:33,243 --> 00:38:35,643
I'll say it again.

1056
00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:41,582
We need to kill baylink, nobody

1057
00:38:47,792 --> 00:38:49,760
has money for baylink.

1058
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,729
Instead of the planning money

1059
00:38:51,729 --> 00:38:53,731
we are spending on baylink we

1060
00:38:53,731 --> 00:38:55,633
need to get a trolley and get a

1061
00:38:55,633 --> 00:38:56,768
trolley that goes across the

1062
00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:58,670
venetian and be done with this.

1063
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:59,804
Fdo t won't pay for it, we

1064
00:38:59,804 --> 00:39:01,672
can't afford it and at some

1065
00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:02,807
point we've got to cut our

1066
00:39:02,807 --> 00:39:04,808
losses and move forward.

1067
00:39:04,808 --> 00:39:09,800
And if a bart was good enough

1068
00:39:10,381 --> 00:39:11,615
for south dade and is working

1069
00:39:11,615 --> 00:39:12,483
why is a trolley not good for

1070
00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:14,483
miami beach.

1071
00:39:22,927 --> 00:39:24,829
Is there a different standard.

1072
00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:26,765
Because last time I checked it

1073
00:39:26,765 --> 00:39:28,000
was all the same, we had to

1074
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,100
approve ridership and interest

1075
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,902
to move forward.

1076
00:39:30,902 --> 00:39:32,871
I think when we look at the

1077
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:34,138
smart plan we need to say okay,

1078
00:39:34,138 --> 00:39:36,909
what doesn't have the ability

1079
00:39:36,909 --> 00:39:37,175
to get funded and let's find a

1080
00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:38,877
solution.

1081
00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:40,779
I think that is something miami

1082
00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:42,140
beach would like to consider.

1083
00:39:42,140 --> 00:39:45,614
It concerns me we keep cutting

1084
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:51,891
bus routes and I'm not going to

1085
00:39:51,891 --> 00:39:53,920
get ahead of the budget but I

1086
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,893
want to say the constant

1087
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,950
cutting of the bus routes, if

1088
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:57,964
we're going to keep doing this

1089
00:39:57,964 --> 00:39:58,898
we have to go back and look at

1090
00:39:58,898 --> 00:40:00,990
metro connect.

1091
00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:01,900
We have to look at it because

1092
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:03,102
we need to use the same

1093
00:40:03,102 --> 00:40:04,904
standard that we use for the

1094
00:40:04,904 --> 00:40:06,439
buses for metro connect.

1095
00:40:06,439 --> 00:40:10,639
How much are we paying for that

1096
00:40:11,711 --> 00:40:13,646
one writer because time and

1097
00:40:13,646 --> 00:40:15,649
again we come to the buses and

1098
00:40:15,649 --> 00:40:17,216
say it's low ridership, caught

1099
00:40:17,216 --> 00:40:18,685
the bus route in the meanwhile

1100
00:40:18,685 --> 00:40:20,654
metro connect is existing out

1101
00:40:20,654 --> 00:40:21,821
there in the ether and I think

1102
00:40:21,821 --> 00:40:23,756
we are getting to a point where

1103
00:40:23,756 --> 00:40:27,356
we might be reverting back to

1104
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,201
the original letter bus that

1105
00:40:35,201 --> 00:40:37,137
just had buses and arteries and

1106
00:40:37,137 --> 00:40:38,205
if we are doing that we need to

1107
00:40:38,205 --> 00:40:40,740
be honest about it.

1108
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:40,941
I think we need to be honest

1109
00:40:40,941 --> 00:40:42,941
about it.

1110
00:40:43,613 --> 00:40:44,177
Because if you start looking at

1111
00:40:44,177 --> 00:40:45,913
the pattern of pattern is

1112
00:40:45,913 --> 00:40:47,114
moving us towards that.

1113
00:40:47,114 --> 00:40:49,490
We need to be honest with

1114
00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:51,510
people about the bus routes

1115
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:52,986
that are working and the ones

1116
00:40:52,986 --> 00:40:54,121
that are important and if the

1117
00:40:54,121 --> 00:40:56,157
bart is working we need to

1118
00:40:56,157 --> 00:40:58,326
invest because it's working and

1119
00:40:58,326 --> 00:40:59,460
have a comprehensive

1120
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:01,329
conversation, not just a

1121
00:41:01,329 --> 00:41:01,629
reactionary conversation to

1122
00:41:01,629 --> 00:41:03,430
better bus.

1123
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:04,598
I also think we need to deal

1124
00:41:04,598 --> 00:41:07,335
with some of our liabilities.

1125
00:41:07,335 --> 00:41:08,371
I know our legal department was

1126
00:41:08,371 --> 00:41:10,238
looking into the proterra

1127
00:41:10,238 --> 00:41:11,372
issue, we are not the only ones

1128
00:41:11,372 --> 00:41:14,972
that have this issue but we

1129
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:39,134
also have sp 7046.

1130
00:41:39,134 --> 00:41:40,335
Sb 7046 puts a pin in some of

1131
00:41:40,335 --> 00:41:42,237
our electric bus purchases and

1132
00:41:42,237 --> 00:41:44,106
the question is what are we

1133
00:41:44,106 --> 00:41:45,374
going to do about that because

1134
00:41:45,374 --> 00:41:47,243
after proterra broward decided

1135
00:41:47,243 --> 00:41:49,245
to purchase diesel so that's

1136
00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:49,445
another conversation we need to

1137
00:41:49,445 --> 00:41:51,380
have.

1138
00:41:51,380 --> 00:41:53,248
How much are we investing, how

1139
00:41:53,248 --> 00:41:55,117
much is it costing and how do

1140
00:41:55,117 --> 00:41:56,352
we deal with the state

1141
00:41:56,352 --> 00:41:58,287
preemption that makes us look

1142
00:41:58,287 --> 00:42:00,222
at that money differently.

1143
00:42:00,222 --> 00:42:02,224
I would like to see that.

1144
00:42:02,224 --> 00:42:03,325
And finally in terms of the

1145
00:42:03,325 --> 00:42:05,227
roadway issue, I think we need

1146
00:42:05,227 --> 00:42:07,960
to have a conversation about

1147
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,970
the stormwater and the

1148
00:42:08,970 --> 00:42:09,299
stormwater fees.

1149
00:42:09,299 --> 00:42:10,199
And how we do that and how we

1150
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:12,199
collect that.

1151
00:42:12,201 --> 00:42:14,102
Are we really doing that work,

1152
00:42:14,102 --> 00:42:16,106
what would it actually take for

1153
00:42:16,106 --> 00:42:18,608
us to be able to have a good

1154
00:42:18,608 --> 00:42:18,875
stormwater plan and what does

1155
00:42:18,875 --> 00:42:20,777
that cost?

1156
00:42:20,777 --> 00:42:22,578
That doesn't mean we have that

1157
00:42:22,578 --> 00:42:24,580
money but as we have these

1158
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:25,682
conversations we should have a

1159
00:42:25,682 --> 00:42:28,820
minimum have an idea.

1160
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,199
When we do zoning, we need to

1161
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,670
take that into account.

1162
00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:45,680
Because sometimes we do and

1163
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:45,272
sometimes we don't.

1164
00:42:45,272 --> 00:42:47,104
Ut maybe

1165
00:42:47,104 --> 00:42:49,730
there are some changes to the

1166
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:51,740
comprehensive master plan that

1167
00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:51,642
could help us alleviate some of

1168
00:42:51,642 --> 00:42:52,376
this.

1169
00:42:52,376 --> 00:42:54,440
We also need to start looking

1170
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,780
at our impact fees.

1171
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:57,581
And I'm not a fan.

1172
00:42:57,581 --> 00:42:59,483
This administration has been

1173
00:42:59,483 --> 00:43:00,651
good to my district in that we

1174
00:43:00,651 --> 00:43:01,452
are finally fixing some of the

1175
00:43:01,452 --> 00:43:02,653
roads.

1176
00:43:02,653 --> 00:43:03,554
And we fight for them and I

1177
00:43:03,554 --> 00:43:05,554
thank you.

1178
00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:07,559
But my district for 10 years

1179
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:08,760
and the impact fees taken and

1180
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,595
put in other districts and I

1181
00:43:10,595 --> 00:43:12,630
had roads that had been built

1182
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:14,464
and resurfaced for 30, 40, 50

1183
00:43:14,464 --> 00:43:16,534
years and I know that happens.

1184
00:43:16,534 --> 00:43:17,469
There is a disparity here and I

1185
00:43:17,469 --> 00:43:18,570
understand that.

1186
00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:20,504
Some people have more

1187
00:43:20,504 --> 00:43:21,672
development than others but for

1188
00:43:21,672 --> 00:43:25,272
those of us who are suffering

1189
00:43:33,618 --> 00:43:35,554
the development, those potholes

1190
00:43:35,554 --> 00:43:37,489
are more painful because people

1191
00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,424
drive down our streets and to

1192
00:43:39,424 --> 00:43:40,525
say I don't understand, I see

1193
00:43:40,525 --> 00:43:42,426
this building, once this

1194
00:43:42,426 --> 00:43:44,462
pothole and meanwhile we're

1195
00:43:44,462 --> 00:43:45,598
talking about building roads

1196
00:43:45,598 --> 00:43:46,598
outside the you dv so what's

1197
00:43:46,598 --> 00:43:48,567
going to give here?

1198
00:43:48,567 --> 00:43:50,436
I think that we need to look at

1199
00:43:50,436 --> 00:43:51,603
the impact fees and to be

1200
00:43:51,603 --> 00:43:53,538
honest about what our road

1201
00:43:53,538 --> 00:43:54,673
plans are so that we could then

1202
00:43:54,673 --> 00:43:56,576
articulate to our residents

1203
00:43:56,576 --> 00:43:58,511
what the needs are and how we

1204
00:43:58,511 --> 00:43:59,445
are doing our best to meet

1205
00:43:59,445 --> 00:44:00,545
those needs.

1206
00:44:00,545 --> 00:44:01,614
Because we are put in a

1207
00:44:01,614 --> 00:44:03,614
difficult position.

1208
00:44:03,682 --> 00:44:05,585
So I think moving forward as we

1209
00:44:05,585 --> 00:44:09,656
go into the budget we have to

1210
00:44:09,656 --> 00:44:11,657
look at what are our revenue

1211
00:44:11,657 --> 00:44:13,726
opportunities and what are our

1212
00:44:13,726 --> 00:44:15,728
existing liabilities and match

1213
00:44:15,728 --> 00:44:17,930
these up because there's a lot

1214
00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:18,798
of policies that have been set

1215
00:44:18,798 --> 00:44:20,666
by this board that then get

1216
00:44:20,666 --> 00:44:20,900
mirrored back to us in the

1217
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:22,735
budget.

1218
00:44:22,735 --> 00:44:23,870
And I think we are at a point

1219
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:25,739
where we need to reevaluate

1220
00:44:25,739 --> 00:44:27,807
those and figure out is this

1221
00:44:27,807 --> 00:44:29,776
really working for us or not

1222
00:44:29,776 --> 00:44:30,760
and try to find some revenue

1223
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,760
generation.

1224
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,255
I think the rtz has shown us

1225
00:44:42,255 --> 00:44:43,423
zoning can help transit so we

1226
00:44:43,423 --> 00:44:45,259
should revisit that and have

1227
00:44:45,259 --> 00:44:47,259
these conversations about

1228
00:44:47,261 --> 00:44:48,395
different ways to fund transit.

1229
00:44:48,395 --> 00:44:50,364
And what we can do to ensure

1230
00:44:50,364 --> 00:44:52,232
where the density is coming

1231
00:44:52,232 --> 00:44:53,433
that money at a minimum fixes

1232
00:44:53,433 --> 00:44:57,330
the roads that are adjacent to

1233
00:45:04,378 --> 00:45:05,613
it, thank you.

1234
00:45:05,613 --> 00:45:07,415
>>commissioner bermudez: just

1235
00:45:07,415 --> 00:45:09,350
one thing, when we look at

1236
00:45:09,350 --> 00:45:10,551
impact fees municipalities look

1237
00:45:10,551 --> 00:45:12,453
at the impact fees to end the

1238
00:45:12,453 --> 00:45:14,488
one we are in coextensive so

1239
00:45:14,488 --> 00:45:16,725
the responsibility will have to

1240
00:45:16,725 --> 00:45:17,358
be we've got, it's not a

1241
00:45:17,358 --> 00:45:18,626
one-way road.

1242
00:45:18,626 --> 00:45:20,595
Unfortunately to the west where

1243
00:45:20,595 --> 00:45:22,496
we do need roads particularly

1244
00:45:22,496 --> 00:45:25,496
in areas that this county

1245
00:45:26,468 --> 00:45:28,469
allowed, the city of hialeah.

1246
00:45:28,469 --> 00:45:30,338
any growth there within the you

1247
00:45:30,338 --> 00:45:31,573
dv and you know how I feel

1248
00:45:31,573 --> 00:45:33,408
about the udb, we've got to

1249
00:45:33,408 --> 00:45:34,609
stop with this 52 years we

1250
00:45:34,609 --> 00:45:35,444
can't talk about it like it's a

1251
00:45:35,444 --> 00:45:37,345
bad word.

1252
00:45:37,345 --> 00:45:40,345
Everybody could be at the

1253
00:45:40,615 --> 00:45:41,850
table.

1254
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:43,784
Environmentalists and you guys,

1255
00:45:43,784 --> 00:45:45,621
us, everybody but if you look

1256
00:45:45,621 --> 00:45:46,722
at impact fees I want to make

1257
00:45:46,722 --> 00:45:48,624
sure we look at what

1258
00:45:48,624 --> 00:45:51,240
municipalities do because they

1259
00:46:01,236 --> 00:46:02,470
also charge impact fees.

1260
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:04,339
>>commissioner bastien: on the

1261
00:46:04,339 --> 00:46:06,209
bus route changes moving

1262
00:46:06,209 --> 00:46:08,310
forward it is important that

1263
00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:10,279
district commissioners sit down

1264
00:46:10,279 --> 00:46:10,513
with you before you change the

1265
00:46:10,513 --> 00:46:12,513
routes.

1266
00:46:13,249 --> 00:46:16,249
I-4 example have pockets of

1267
00:46:17,854 --> 00:46:19,856
residents who are basically cut

1268
00:46:19,856 --> 00:46:21,858
off, mainly elderly's, the

1269
00:46:21,858 --> 00:46:22,859
elderly as I was referring to

1270
00:46:22,859 --> 00:46:24,859
earlier cut off.

1271
00:46:24,927 --> 00:46:26,161
So before these changes I

1272
00:46:26,161 --> 00:46:28,264
definitely would like to sit

1273
00:46:28,264 --> 00:46:31,264
down with the department to

1274
00:46:45,546 --> 00:46:47,481
analyze, to see the plan for

1275
00:46:47,481 --> 00:46:48,449
this bus route because we know

1276
00:46:48,449 --> 00:46:50,384
our district best.

1277
00:46:50,384 --> 00:46:50,651
We know where our residence

1278
00:46:50,651 --> 00:46:52,453
needs are.

1279
00:46:52,453 --> 00:46:54,354
So I really would like to be

1280
00:46:54,354 --> 00:46:56,356
part of that conversation and I

1281
00:46:56,356 --> 00:46:57,624
know other commissioners would

1282
00:46:57,624 --> 00:46:59,459
like to also to make sure that

1283
00:46:59,459 --> 00:47:01,361
we just don't react to the

1284
00:47:01,361 --> 00:47:04,961
changes after we hear from the

1285
00:47:15,106 --> 00:47:16,975
residence, it's important for

1286
00:47:16,975 --> 00:47:18,877
us to sit down with you moving

1287
00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:20,780
forward to find better

1288
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:21,246
solutions to keep our elderly

1289
00:47:21,246 --> 00:47:23,246
is moving.

1290
00:47:23,315 --> 00:47:24,883
We need them to keep moving.

1291
00:47:24,883 --> 00:47:26,840
It has an impact on their

1292
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,985
health and on life in general

1293
00:47:27,985 --> 00:47:29,854
so this is something we really

1294
00:47:29,854 --> 00:47:32,560
need to work on and on free

1295
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,858
transit commissioner regalado i

1296
00:47:33,858 --> 00:47:35,860
agree it cannot be free but

1297
00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:36,994
there will always need to be

1298
00:47:36,994 --> 00:47:38,929
considerations for others.

1299
00:47:38,929 --> 00:47:40,630
It's not everyone and I am

1300
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:41,932
always referring to the elderly

1301
00:47:41,932 --> 00:47:43,330
because I know what they are

1302
00:47:43,330 --> 00:47:44,868
going through right now.

1303
00:47:44,868 --> 00:47:46,200
The decisions, the hard

1304
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,837
decisions they have to make

1305
00:47:47,837 --> 00:47:48,972
every day to make ends meet.

1306
00:47:48,972 --> 00:47:50,390
To keep their homes.

1307
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:51,941
To pay insurance.

1308
00:47:51,941 --> 00:47:54,941
Many are losing their homes

1309
00:48:00,549 --> 00:48:00,782
because of their high cost of

1310
00:48:00,782 --> 00:48:02,651
living.

1311
00:48:02,651 --> 00:48:03,552
So we have to find ways to help

1312
00:48:03,552 --> 00:48:04,786
them.

1313
00:48:04,786 --> 00:48:07,522
Whatever plans we make we have

1314
00:48:07,522 --> 00:48:09,524
to take into consideration in

1315
00:48:09,524 --> 00:48:10,692
miami dade county they are the

1316
00:48:10,692 --> 00:48:13,920
elderly populations that are

1317
00:48:17,532 --> 00:48:17,898
hurting right now like so many

1318
00:48:17,898 --> 00:48:19,734
other families.

1319
00:48:19,734 --> 00:48:21,735
We have to decide whether to

1320
00:48:21,735 --> 00:48:24,537
buy food or pay for medication

1321
00:48:24,537 --> 00:48:26,339
or pay for taxes, insurance,

1322
00:48:26,339 --> 00:48:28,408
everything is going up that

1323
00:48:28,408 --> 00:48:30,310
their income remains stagnant.

1324
00:48:30,310 --> 00:48:32,212
These are things we need to

1325
00:48:32,212 --> 00:48:34,214
take into consideration as we

1326
00:48:34,214 --> 00:48:35,215
plan forward because it's all

1327
00:48:35,215 --> 00:48:35,615
linked.

1328
00:48:35,615 --> 00:48:37,750
It is all linked.

1329
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:39,652
You cannot take any of this

1330
00:48:39,652 --> 00:48:40,653
problems or issues and deal

1331
00:48:40,653 --> 00:48:40,853
with them in silos.

1332
00:48:40,853 --> 00:48:42,853
Nd in our

1333
00:48:46,658 --> 00:48:48,594
best interests to find ways to

1334
00:48:48,594 --> 00:48:49,761
keep the elderly population in

1335
00:48:49,761 --> 00:48:52,161
miami dade county moving.

1336
00:48:57,669 --> 00:48:58,736
You need to be able to walk,

1337
00:48:58,736 --> 00:49:00,672
it's better for them.

1338
00:49:00,672 --> 00:49:02,573
We win in the end if we find

1339
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:03,741
ways to keep them moving so

1340
00:49:03,741 --> 00:49:05,676
before we change these bus

1341
00:49:05,676 --> 00:49:09,246
routes I'd like to sit down.

1342
00:49:09,246 --> 00:49:09,480
>>chair: okay.

1343
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,480
Hold on.

1344
00:49:19,222 --> 00:49:21,222
It's not superquick.

1345
00:49:21,224 --> 00:49:22,125
Is he going to be superquick

1346
00:49:22,125 --> 00:49:23,326
what she says?

1347
00:49:23,326 --> 00:49:25,270
Does anybody think it's going

1348
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:26,529
to be superquick?

1349
00:49:26,529 --> 00:49:28,529
>>commissioner regalado: you

1350
00:49:52,353 --> 00:49:53,587
can tie me.

1351
00:49:53,587 --> 00:49:54,588
>>commissioner regalado: maybe

1352
00:49:54,588 --> 00:49:56,489
I was too subtle.

1353
00:49:56,489 --> 00:49:58,425
I want you guys to consider

1354
00:49:58,425 --> 00:50:00,327
metro connect should not be a

1355
00:50:00,327 --> 00:50:01,494
say great cow because she needs

1356
00:50:01,494 --> 00:50:03,329
to find money and if metro

1357
00:50:03,329 --> 00:50:04,530
connect we are paying for it

1358
00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:06,399
because we canceled bus routes

1359
00:50:06,399 --> 00:50:07,533
and in order to continue we

1360
00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:09,968
need to cancel bus routes.

1361
00:50:09,968 --> 00:50:11,370
At some point we need to decide

1362
00:50:11,370 --> 00:50:13,339
what is more important, the bus

1363
00:50:13,339 --> 00:50:14,540
routes or the metro connect

1364
00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:16,475
because the tail is wagging the

1365
00:50:16,475 --> 00:50:18,310
dog again so we can increase

1366
00:50:18,310 --> 00:50:20,312
the price, cut it,

1367
00:50:20,312 --> 00:50:21,613
geographically limit it.

1368
00:50:21,613 --> 00:50:24,130
>>commissioner bastien: we need

1369
00:50:24,316 --> 00:50:25,617
to have these conversations.

1370
00:50:25,617 --> 00:50:27,318
>>chair: my turn.

1371
00:50:27,318 --> 00:50:28,452
I agree that we need to I think

1372
00:50:28,452 --> 00:50:29,754
they called it the golden

1373
00:50:29,754 --> 00:50:31,656
passport for the seniors.

1374
00:50:31,656 --> 00:50:32,323
We need to keep it free.

1375
00:50:32,323 --> 00:50:33,524
I know.

1376
00:50:33,524 --> 00:50:35,459
>> 40% of our patrons pay

1377
00:50:35,459 --> 00:50:36,494
nothing or half-price affairs.

1378
00:50:36,494 --> 00:50:38,429
>> thank you.

1379
00:50:38,429 --> 00:50:40,297
I think we need to keep that in

1380
00:50:40,297 --> 00:50:41,498
place but then you probably

1381
00:50:41,498 --> 00:50:43,300
need to look at raising the

1382
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:45,700
rates on other people.

1383
00:50:55,778 --> 00:50:55,945
So you probably need to look at

1384
00:50:55,945 --> 00:50:57,113
50%.

1385
00:50:57,113 --> 00:50:59,140
It is not a free ride.

1386
00:50:59,140 --> 00:50:59,949
The ride is going to be paid

1387
00:50:59,949 --> 00:51:01,817
for or subsidized.

1388
00:51:01,817 --> 00:51:03,752
So the question is where you

1389
00:51:03,752 --> 00:51:03,952
are going to get that subsidy

1390
00:51:03,952 --> 00:51:05,754
from.

1391
00:51:05,754 --> 00:51:06,855
What you're saying with metro

1392
00:51:06,855 --> 00:51:08,790
connect is the same thing.

1393
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:10,225
If you provide a free ride on

1394
00:51:10,225 --> 00:51:10,725
one else has to pay a little

1395
00:51:10,725 --> 00:51:12,725
more.

1396
00:51:14,295 --> 00:51:16,130
so I took rapid mass transit

1397
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:16,363
and transit to go to law

1398
00:51:16,363 --> 00:51:18,132
school.

1399
00:51:18,132 --> 00:51:19,333
I remember when it used to go

1400
00:51:19,333 --> 00:51:21,202
up $0.10 and $0.15 and if you

1401
00:51:21,202 --> 00:51:23,137
have years where it went up

1402
00:51:23,137 --> 00:51:24,338
every year then you would never

1403
00:51:24,338 --> 00:51:25,273
face a system that was so far

1404
00:51:25,273 --> 00:51:27,273
out of balance.

1405
00:51:28,109 --> 00:51:29,243
So what happens is for folks

1406
00:51:29,243 --> 00:51:31,643
watching its basic stuff.

1407
00:51:32,547 --> 00:51:35,817
The price of gas goes up.

1408
00:51:35,817 --> 00:51:39,821
And we use gas in the buses.

1409
00:51:39,821 --> 00:51:44,210
But the bus ride doesn't go up.

1410
00:51:44,459 --> 00:51:46,328
So it's basically that simple.

1411
00:51:46,328 --> 00:51:50,528
For people who want to take it

1412
00:51:52,734 --> 00:51:54,602
a little further.

1413
00:51:54,602 --> 00:51:55,871
Every year we will give a

1414
00:51:55,871 --> 00:51:57,806
cost-of-living increase which

1415
00:51:57,806 --> 00:51:58,741
we should do our people who

1416
00:51:58,741 --> 00:52:00,741
operate transit.

1417
00:52:01,476 --> 00:52:03,378
But the price, and we will give

1418
00:52:03,378 --> 00:52:04,579
that because we should because

1419
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:06,482
the cost of living has gone up

1420
00:52:06,482 --> 00:52:07,550
so to live here then they have

1421
00:52:07,550 --> 00:52:09,484
to actually make more.

1422
00:52:09,484 --> 00:52:11,884
Not unlike everyone else.

1423
00:52:13,989 --> 00:52:16,125
But the price of the ride does

1424
00:52:16,125 --> 00:52:18,125
not go up.

1425
00:52:19,695 --> 00:52:22,950
In a cummins way.

1426
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:28,271
That's not fiscal

1427
00:52:28,271 --> 00:52:29,272
responsibility.

1428
00:52:29,272 --> 00:52:31,272
That's dishonesty.

1429
00:52:36,245 --> 00:52:38,140
So the system is fundamentally

1430
00:52:38,140 --> 00:52:39,115
not supporting itself.

1431
00:52:39,115 --> 00:52:41,515
That aside, you're right.

1432
00:52:47,924 --> 00:52:48,191
Rapid transit zones have

1433
00:52:48,191 --> 00:52:49,993
increased.

1434
00:52:49,993 --> 00:52:50,927
The tid, we know the pay

1435
00:52:50,927 --> 00:52:51,940
increase on it.

1436
00:52:51,940 --> 00:52:52,996
E allow

1437
00:52:52,996 --> 00:52:55,310
people to do different sars and

1438
00:52:55,310 --> 00:52:56,934
high density along the

1439
00:52:56,934 --> 00:52:58,168
corridors, we can increase the

1440
00:52:58,168 --> 00:52:59,136
taxable value, increase goes

1441
00:52:59,136 --> 00:53:00,938
into the system.

1442
00:53:00,938 --> 00:53:02,105
We understand that.

1443
00:53:02,105 --> 00:53:05,709
You all last year came to me

1444
00:53:05,709 --> 00:53:07,144
when you raided the tid and

1445
00:53:07,144 --> 00:53:08,712
said we need to do it for this

1446
00:53:08,712 --> 00:53:10,716
year and I thought you were

1447
00:53:10,716 --> 00:53:10,914
being optimistic when you said

1448
00:53:10,914 --> 00:53:12,749
that.

1449
00:53:12,749 --> 00:53:14,685
We've got a plan, we're doing

1450
00:53:14,685 --> 00:53:18,885
it this year but that was last

1451
00:53:28,966 --> 00:53:30,101
year and this year you are

1452
00:53:30,101 --> 00:53:32,300
raiding the tid again and I

1453
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:33,971
don't know that I'm going to be

1454
00:53:33,971 --> 00:53:35,172
supportive because it places me

1455
00:53:35,172 --> 00:53:37,420
in the position of doing what

1456
00:53:37,420 --> 00:53:38,760
prior commissions have done

1457
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:39,944
when they make difficult

1458
00:53:39,944 --> 00:53:41,790
decisions when they took the

1459
00:53:41,790 --> 00:53:43,479
half-penny honest for rapid

1460
00:53:43,514 --> 00:53:44,480
mass transit and used it to

1461
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,917
support a system.

1462
00:53:45,917 --> 00:53:47,919
I don't begrudge them their

1463
00:53:47,919 --> 00:53:49,120
situation, they were facing a

1464
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,922
situation where the county was

1465
00:53:50,922 --> 00:53:51,623
broke, housing was in a

1466
00:53:51,623 --> 00:53:53,623
freefall.

1467
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:03,602
They did the hard thing.

1468
00:54:03,602 --> 00:54:04,869
But now we are faced with

1469
00:54:04,869 --> 00:54:06,772
essentially the broken promises

1470
00:54:06,772 --> 00:54:08,674
of the half-penny. So we have

1471
00:54:08,674 --> 00:54:10,800
to live with the legacy of a

1472
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,643
broken promise at the

1473
00:54:11,643 --> 00:54:12,878
half-penny. People do not

1474
00:54:12,878 --> 00:54:14,846
understand the buses that they

1475
00:54:14,846 --> 00:54:16,782
are able to ride on those buses

1476
00:54:16,782 --> 00:54:18,751
they will do things because

1477
00:54:18,751 --> 00:54:19,785
those commissioners made a very

1478
00:54:19,785 --> 00:54:21,785
difficult decision.

1479
00:54:21,787 --> 00:54:23,889
I understand that, I do not

1480
00:54:23,889 --> 00:54:24,857
begrudge them their decision.

1481
00:54:24,857 --> 00:54:26,826
It was difficult.

1482
00:54:26,826 --> 00:54:28,694
It is difficult because you get

1483
00:54:28,694 --> 00:54:29,896
to choose to do some hard

1484
00:54:29,896 --> 00:54:30,696
things, it's a rock and a hard

1485
00:54:30,696 --> 00:54:32,980
place.

1486
00:54:32,980 --> 00:54:32,832
The question is what we are

1487
00:54:32,832 --> 00:54:34,733
going to do.

1488
00:54:34,733 --> 00:54:35,902
So we know at some point

1489
00:54:35,902 --> 00:54:38,302
whether it's a dedicated

1490
00:54:49,382 --> 00:54:50,483
millage, another halfpenny, a

1491
00:54:50,483 --> 00:54:51,584
general obligation bond

1492
00:54:51,584 --> 00:54:52,585
something has to fix the

1493
00:54:52,585 --> 00:54:54,387
system.

1494
00:54:54,387 --> 00:54:55,589
Not just operate the system,

1495
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:57,391
somebody has to fix the system.

1496
00:54:57,391 --> 00:54:58,525
the money we have in

1497
00:54:58,525 --> 00:55:00,525
maintenance that's behind,

1498
00:55:00,794 --> 00:55:01,270
something has to fix the

1499
00:55:01,270 --> 00:55:02,462
system.

1500
00:55:02,462 --> 00:55:04,464
That's what I'm looking for

1501
00:55:04,464 --> 00:55:06,400
from the administration and my

1502
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,568
colleagues before I leave.

1503
00:55:07,568 --> 00:55:09,503
And if I end up going to

1504
00:55:09,503 --> 00:55:09,737
congress you know I will fight

1505
00:55:09,737 --> 00:55:11,737
for it.

1506
00:55:12,339 --> 00:55:14,241
It means that much to be, this

1507
00:55:14,241 --> 00:55:15,409
is the system that got me my

1508
00:55:15,409 --> 00:55:16,310
law degree, took my system to

1509
00:55:16,310 --> 00:55:18,179
our future.

1510
00:55:18,179 --> 00:55:20,180
I want that opportunity to

1511
00:55:20,180 --> 00:55:20,414
exist for young people going

1512
00:55:20,414 --> 00:55:22,283
forward.

1513
00:55:22,283 --> 00:55:22,483
But we have to come up with a

1514
00:55:22,483 --> 00:55:24,284
plan.

1515
00:55:24,284 --> 00:55:26,287
When I tell you this is not a

1516
00:55:26,287 --> 00:55:29,287
sustainable orbit, it's not a

1517
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:33,927
sustainable orbit and there is

1518
00:55:33,927 --> 00:55:35,797
a crash coming quickly for us.

1519
00:55:35,797 --> 00:55:37,632
We are we are going to make

1520
00:55:37,632 --> 00:55:40,320
some hard decisions about

1521
00:55:41,636 --> 00:55:43,637
villages or cuts in services or

1522
00:55:43,637 --> 00:55:46,370
terminations, there's some hard

1523
00:55:57,386 --> 00:55:59,354
decisions coming our way.

1524
00:55:59,354 --> 00:56:00,555
We can look at the budget that

1525
00:56:00,555 --> 00:56:02,524
administration proposes and

1526
00:56:02,524 --> 00:56:03,591
tread water but there's a point

1527
00:56:03,591 --> 00:56:05,428
where you're treading water,

1528
00:56:05,428 --> 00:56:07,329
you know you're not going

1529
00:56:07,329 --> 00:56:09,331
forward but most people can

1530
00:56:09,331 --> 00:56:10,565
tread water and they can tread

1531
00:56:10,565 --> 00:56:12,434
water for an hour or two hours

1532
00:56:12,434 --> 00:56:14,335
but this isn't the movie

1533
00:56:14,335 --> 00:56:14,535
titanic, you eventually just

1534
00:56:14,535 --> 00:56:15,705
drown.

1535
00:56:15,705 --> 00:56:17,440
That's coming our way.

1536
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,408
So we know it's coming our way.

1537
00:56:19,408 --> 00:56:19,708
It's undesirable it is not

1538
00:56:19,708 --> 00:56:21,477
unforeseen.

1539
00:56:21,477 --> 00:56:23,478
So when regalado talks about we

1540
00:56:23,478 --> 00:56:25,315
have to have a plan, there's

1541
00:56:25,315 --> 00:56:26,482
going to be a plan but

1542
00:56:26,482 --> 00:56:28,417
everything has to be on the

1543
00:56:28,417 --> 00:56:29,485
table, everything has to be on

1544
00:56:29,485 --> 00:56:31,485
the table.

1545
00:56:38,294 --> 00:56:40,129
So I don't know where we end up

1546
00:56:40,129 --> 00:56:41,330
on the tid this year.

1547
00:56:41,330 --> 00:56:43,232
What is likely that will happen

1548
00:56:43,232 --> 00:56:45,133
from my perspective as I want

1549
00:56:45,133 --> 00:56:46,269
that plan because if you're

1550
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:48,104
telling me I spent 18 months

1551
00:56:48,104 --> 00:56:49,305
traveling up and down this

1552
00:56:49,305 --> 00:56:51,241
county fighting with our

1553
00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:53,309
residents about the rtz so that

1554
00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:55,312
I could find funding that would

1555
00:56:55,312 --> 00:56:56,413
eventually accumulate enough

1556
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,348
money to fund rapid mass

1557
00:56:58,348 --> 00:56:59,516
transit but I did all that

1558
00:56:59,516 --> 00:57:03,116
fighting so you all could take

1559
00:57:04,154 --> 00:57:06,890
the money every year to support

1560
00:57:06,890 --> 00:57:08,910
the system, that's problematic.

1561
00:57:08,910 --> 00:57:10,600
Because now you're putting me

1562
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,894
in a situation where I've gone

1563
00:57:11,894 --> 00:57:13,290
to those people, I've made

1564
00:57:13,290 --> 00:57:14,831
those arguments you all are

1565
00:57:14,831 --> 00:57:15,310
essentially making me into a

1566
00:57:15,310 --> 00:57:16,834
liar.

1567
00:57:16,834 --> 00:57:18,680
You all have been on the board

1568
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,970
with me when I started using

1569
00:57:19,970 --> 00:57:24,170
the word liar, I can't do that.

1570
00:57:30,810 --> 00:57:31,982
So that's my problem with

1571
00:57:31,982 --> 00:57:33,500
raiding the tid, because we

1572
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:35,500
said something else.

1573
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,955
We said something else and when

1574
00:57:36,955 --> 00:57:41,258
I said it it was true, this is

1575
00:57:41,258 --> 00:57:42,459
what it was meant to do.

1576
00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:44,362
So it was an emergency last

1577
00:57:44,362 --> 00:57:45,363
year but every year can't be

1578
00:57:45,363 --> 00:57:47,298
the same emergency.

1579
00:57:47,298 --> 00:57:49,200
Every year can't be the same

1580
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,200
emergency so that my problem

1581
00:57:59,977 --> 00:58:01,213
with it and that's a

1582
00:58:01,213 --> 00:58:02,800
conversation.

1583
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,982
I'm going to need a plan so

1584
00:58:03,982 --> 00:58:04,148
this is my notice to all of

1585
00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:05,417
you.

1586
00:58:05,417 --> 00:58:07,553
I'm going to need a plan.

1587
00:58:07,553 --> 00:58:09,870
Last year I took your word you

1588
00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:11,230
wouldn't do it again this year.

1589
00:58:11,230 --> 00:58:12,900
All this stuff popped off, we

1590
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:13,124
lost more money in the

1591
00:58:13,124 --> 00:58:15,124
legislature this year.

1592
00:58:15,661 --> 00:58:16,962
We could stop asking, we know

1593
00:58:16,962 --> 00:58:17,163
we are not getting it at this

1594
00:58:17,163 --> 00:58:18,964
point.

1595
00:58:18,964 --> 00:58:20,199
They are not going to help.

1596
00:58:20,199 --> 00:58:22,670
we have to do it ourselves so

1597
00:58:22,670 --> 00:58:22,968
let's figure out a plan to do

1598
00:58:22,968 --> 00:58:24,968
it ourselves.

1599
00:58:26,305 --> 00:58:27,206
>>commissioner regalado: with

1600
00:58:27,206 --> 00:58:29,175
you 100%.

1601
00:58:29,175 --> 00:58:30,375
That's why I started saying I

1602
00:58:30,375 --> 00:58:33,975
appreciate the memo but I also

1603
00:58:49,610 --> 00:58:50,129
think there is opportunity in

1604
00:58:50,129 --> 00:58:51,640
other revenue sources.

1605
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,999
So I get it.

1606
00:58:52,999 --> 00:58:54,200
You get a bond, increase the

1607
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,000
half-penny, we all know these

1608
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,135
things.

1609
00:58:56,135 --> 00:58:58,400
But can you charge for the

1610
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,406
mover, can you put a trolley

1611
00:58:59,406 --> 00:59:01,700
and get rid of baylink?

1612
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:01,340
Can you find other

1613
00:59:01,340 --> 00:59:03,340
alternatives?

1614
00:59:18,993 --> 00:59:20,270
Can we go back to the rtz and

1615
00:59:20,270 --> 00:59:21,861
figure something out?

1616
00:59:21,861 --> 00:59:23,630
I don't think there's one

1617
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:24,831
solution to all these problems.

1618
00:59:24,831 --> 00:59:25,933
I think it has to be a

1619
00:59:25,933 --> 00:59:27,868
collection of things.

1620
00:59:27,868 --> 00:59:28,102
And we can start with those

1621
00:59:28,102 --> 00:59:30,400
things.

1622
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,905
The problem is last year when I

1623
00:59:31,905 --> 00:59:33,807
said let's charge for metro

1624
00:59:33,807 --> 00:59:34,875
mover, it's going to take two

1625
00:59:34,875 --> 00:59:36,440
years, somebody has an

1626
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,945
election, here we are again,

1627
00:59:37,945 --> 00:59:39,814
it's an election year and by

1628
00:59:39,814 --> 00:59:41,849
the time we have the

1629
00:59:41,849 --> 00:59:42,182
conversation it will be another

1630
00:59:42,182 --> 00:59:43,984
election year.

1631
00:59:43,984 --> 00:59:44,918
I think we need to start on

1632
00:59:44,918 --> 00:59:46,918
these things.

1633
00:59:46,921 --> 00:59:47,789
And whatever it is at least

1634
00:59:47,789 --> 00:59:48,220
it's a start.

1635
00:59:48,220 --> 00:59:49,991
Nd look, I

1636
00:59:49,991 --> 00:59:51,859
think we also I don't think we

1637
00:59:51,859 --> 00:59:53,794
should have, putting aside the

1638
00:59:53,794 --> 00:59:55,797
golden passport which we have.

1639
00:59:55,797 --> 00:59:57,799
This concept of free transit,

1640
00:59:57,799 --> 00:59:58,933
unless there's a hurricane or

1641
00:59:58,933 --> 01:00:00,935
national emergency I don't

1642
01:00:00,935 --> 01:00:02,804
think we should dispense with

1643
01:00:02,804 --> 01:00:04,806
fairs and we've gotten into

1644
01:00:04,806 --> 01:00:05,106
these arguments about fair

1645
01:00:05,106 --> 01:00:06,942
suspension.

1646
01:00:06,942 --> 01:00:09,144
i don't think we should.

1647
01:00:09,144 --> 01:00:10,450
If there's an emergency, we

1648
01:00:10,450 --> 01:00:11,947
suspend the fairs and if not we

1649
01:00:11,947 --> 01:00:12,914
have to charge because we lose

1650
01:00:12,914 --> 01:00:14,914
so much money.

1651
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,886
It's already so subsidized.

1652
01:00:16,886 --> 01:00:18,530
We lose so much money so

1653
01:00:18,530 --> 01:00:19,988
there's policy changes that

1654
01:00:19,988 --> 01:00:22,291
need to be made so we can give

1655
01:00:22,291 --> 01:00:23,250
you the flexibility to come

1656
01:00:23,250 --> 01:00:24,893
back to us and say look, these

1657
01:00:24,893 --> 01:00:26,362
are the different options but

1658
01:00:26,362 --> 01:00:27,997
we also have to be honest that

1659
01:00:27,997 --> 01:00:29,898
the politics of this thing and

1660
01:00:29,898 --> 01:00:31,834
MR. CHAIRMAN I was with you.

1661
01:00:31,834 --> 01:00:33,836
You and I took the blows for

1662
01:00:33,836 --> 01:00:35,805
the rtz and I have to hear my

1663
01:00:35,805 --> 01:00:37,600
residence say here's this

1664
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,908
density, where is the transit

1665
01:00:38,908 --> 01:00:40,810
beyond what we already have?

1666
01:00:40,810 --> 01:00:43,810
When projects come to my

1667
01:00:45,682 --> 01:00:47,517
district I go above and beyond

1668
01:00:47,517 --> 01:00:48,685
to try to get money for the

1669
01:00:48,685 --> 01:00:50,553
stations, to get money to

1670
01:00:50,553 --> 01:00:51,688
offset it so I'm not taking

1671
01:00:51,688 --> 01:00:54,390
from the half-penny but not

1672
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:56,293
everybody does that.

1673
01:00:56,293 --> 01:00:58,295
Some people are just like I

1674
01:00:58,295 --> 01:00:59,462
will fix my station from the

1675
01:00:59,462 --> 01:01:02,462
half-penny. We have to figure

1676
01:01:11,174 --> 01:01:13,760
out a way to do it so there's

1677
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,440
some equity as we all try to

1678
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,947
make this work because it is to

1679
01:01:16,947 --> 01:01:18,115
all our benefits to stretch the

1680
01:01:18,115 --> 01:01:19,950
money we have as much as

1681
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:21,118
possible to oliver's point to

1682
01:01:21,118 --> 01:01:22,219
get us as far into the smart

1683
01:01:22,219 --> 01:01:24,187
plan as we can.

1684
01:01:24,187 --> 01:01:25,121
But that's going to take a

1685
01:01:25,121 --> 01:01:27,521
little bit of sacrifice.

1686
01:01:27,558 --> 01:01:28,959
And I don't, I don't think

1687
01:01:28,959 --> 01:01:30,427
there's one thing but this

1688
01:01:30,427 --> 01:01:32,960
budget, we should at least have

1689
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:33,960
in the horizon one or two or

1690
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:34,965
three things.

1691
01:01:34,965 --> 01:01:36,968
That's are going to start

1692
01:01:36,968 --> 01:01:38,968
changing the conversation

1693
01:01:43,641 --> 01:01:44,908
because if we read the tid this

1694
01:01:44,908 --> 01:01:46,744
time what happens next year and

1695
01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:47,912
we have an election year end

1696
01:01:47,912 --> 01:01:49,847
the same thing and if we are

1697
01:01:49,847 --> 01:01:51,150
going to do something I think

1698
01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:52,917
we need to be honest about it.

1699
01:01:52,917 --> 01:01:54,752
I don't think it's death by

1700
01:01:54,752 --> 01:01:56,755
1000 paper cuts which is what

1701
01:01:56,755 --> 01:01:57,756
we're doing now that it's very

1702
01:01:57,756 --> 01:01:58,957
reactive.

1703
01:01:58,957 --> 01:02:00,758
>>commissioner bermudez: I

1704
01:02:00,758 --> 01:02:01,590
agree, we have to have the

1705
01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:03,590
discussion.

1706
01:02:08,533 --> 01:02:09,601
The half penny went the wrong

1707
01:02:09,601 --> 01:02:11,469
way from the beginning.

1708
01:02:11,469 --> 01:02:13,404
None of us had anything to do

1709
01:02:13,404 --> 01:02:17,604
with that but sadly it went the

1710
01:02:17,910 --> 01:02:19,744
wrong way from the beginning.

1711
01:02:19,744 --> 01:02:20,945
But I think when those

1712
01:02:20,945 --> 01:02:22,881
decisions were made during the

1713
01:02:22,881 --> 01:02:24,849
crisis of 2008 obviously people

1714
01:02:24,849 --> 01:02:27,249
lost confidence because when

1715
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,154
you move use money you promise

1716
01:02:28,154 --> 01:02:29,955
for something else the voters

1717
01:02:29,955 --> 01:02:31,823
as you fool me once, you're not

1718
01:02:31,823 --> 01:02:33,759
going to fool me again this is

1719
01:02:33,759 --> 01:02:34,993
what we talk about when we talk

1720
01:02:34,993 --> 01:02:36,829
about these tid dollars is we

1721
01:02:36,829 --> 01:02:38,831
don't want to repeat that.

1722
01:02:38,831 --> 01:02:39,999
The reason this county has been

1723
01:02:39,999 --> 01:02:41,867
in a position with transit

1724
01:02:41,867 --> 01:02:44,867
that's so difficult is because

1725
01:03:05,224 --> 01:03:06,393
elected officials, transit

1726
01:03:06,393 --> 01:03:08,195
takes 10 or 12 or 10 years

1727
01:03:08,195 --> 01:03:09,463
before you see the results and

1728
01:03:09,463 --> 01:03:11,364
that means you're not in office

1729
01:03:11,364 --> 01:03:13,399
to benefit from the fruits of

1730
01:03:13,399 --> 01:03:16,300
what happens but put that aside

1731
01:03:16,300 --> 01:03:17,304
and make a difficult decision.

1732
01:03:17,304 --> 01:03:19,206
I agree we need to have a plan.

1733
01:03:19,206 --> 01:03:20,407
I will say I'm going to quote

1734
01:03:20,407 --> 01:03:22,807
eisenhower, plans are useless

1735
01:03:23,243 --> 01:03:24,377
but planning is essential.

1736
01:03:24,377 --> 01:03:26,313
Everybody knows the plan MAY

1737
01:03:26,313 --> 01:03:28,815
not be perfect but if you don't

1738
01:03:28,815 --> 01:03:30,217
even start thinking about it

1739
01:03:30,217 --> 01:03:31,418
and what I've seen here and I'm

1740
01:03:31,418 --> 01:03:33,286
speaking for myself is a lot of

1741
01:03:33,286 --> 01:03:34,454
plans that just sat there and

1742
01:03:34,454 --> 01:03:36,324
then we talk about it and

1743
01:03:36,324 --> 01:03:38,225
that's it, we don't even know

1744
01:03:38,225 --> 01:03:39,393
and another plan comes along

1745
01:03:39,393 --> 01:03:41,228
five years later on the same

1746
01:03:41,228 --> 01:03:42,696
thing and that's not what

1747
01:03:42,696 --> 01:03:44,198
eisenhower meant.

1748
01:03:44,198 --> 01:03:45,400
Things change within that plan

1749
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,402
but you've got to be planning

1750
01:03:47,402 --> 01:03:48,336
because if not there's going to

1751
01:03:48,336 --> 01:03:50,336
be a problem.

1752
01:03:50,571 --> 01:03:52,273
The CHAIRMAN You'll have me on

1753
01:03:52,273 --> 01:03:54,341
your side if we tried to get

1754
01:03:54,341 --> 01:03:56,211
this transparency and before

1755
01:03:56,211 --> 01:03:57,445
you go I'll be happy to back

1756
01:03:57,445 --> 01:03:59,347
you up because that's what I

1757
01:03:59,347 --> 01:04:01,382
felt from the beginning and as

1758
01:04:01,382 --> 01:04:03,284
far as commissioner regalado

1759
01:04:03,284 --> 01:04:04,819
before I forget she starts to

1760
01:04:04,819 --> 01:04:06,321
like me again and I want to

1761
01:04:06,321 --> 01:04:08,223
wish her happy birthday so I

1762
01:04:08,223 --> 01:04:09,424
won't be able to be here when

1763
01:04:09,424 --> 01:04:10,224
she's here, early birthday to

1764
01:04:10,224 --> 01:04:11,426
her.

1765
01:04:11,426 --> 01:04:13,361
>>commissioner regalado: I

1766
01:04:13,361 --> 01:04:15,229
don't get to share it with you,

1767
01:04:15,229 --> 01:04:16,231
usually I met a bcc meeting

1768
01:04:16,231 --> 01:04:17,465
with a cake.

1769
01:04:17,465 --> 01:04:19,201
>>chair: darn.

1770
01:04:19,201 --> 01:04:20,468
>>commissioner regalado: that's

1771
01:04:20,468 --> 01:04:22,237
what happens when your birthday

1772
01:04:22,237 --> 01:04:22,437
is so close to the budget

1773
01:04:22,437 --> 01:04:24,272
break.

1774
01:04:24,272 --> 01:04:27,872
>>chair: on the tid, when you

1775
01:04:32,247 --> 01:04:33,315
are raiding the tid, why

1776
01:04:33,315 --> 01:04:35,250
wouldn't it be a son?

1777
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:36,485
>> we had a similar

1778
01:04:36,485 --> 01:04:38,854
conversation and mayor, asked

1779
01:04:38,854 --> 01:04:40,220
the board to consider the gas

1780
01:04:40,220 --> 01:04:42,240
tax and she was rejected.

1781
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,392
She asked the board to consider

1782
01:04:43,392 --> 01:04:46,228
fairs to consider solving some

1783
01:04:46,228 --> 01:04:48,628
of this in balance.

1784
01:04:56,573 --> 01:04:58,475
That's why it was rated then

1785
01:04:58,475 --> 01:04:59,943
and she's going to put out a

1786
01:04:59,943 --> 01:05:01,544
budget that is not going to

1787
01:05:01,544 --> 01:05:02,778
propose any tax increases or

1788
01:05:02,778 --> 01:05:06,378
fare increases and the only way

1789
01:05:09,819 --> 01:05:09,986
to make the imbalance is the

1790
01:05:09,986 --> 01:05:11,821
tid.

1791
01:05:11,821 --> 01:05:13,823
>>chair: you didn't actually

1792
01:05:13,823 --> 01:05:14,990
answer the question, former

1793
01:05:14,990 --> 01:05:16,860
trial attorney I'd like you to

1794
01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:17,995
answer the question then you

1795
01:05:17,995 --> 01:05:20,995
can go into the soliloquy.

1796
01:05:30,774 --> 01:05:31,908
why is the raiding the tid not

1797
01:05:31,908 --> 01:05:32,943
a loan from the tid to the

1798
01:05:32,943 --> 01:05:34,710
general fund?

1799
01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:35,913
Like last year you took the

1800
01:05:35,913 --> 01:05:37,715
money, it's like strong arm

1801
01:05:37,715 --> 01:05:39,183
robbery but the loan is you

1802
01:05:39,183 --> 01:05:39,917
borrow the money.

1803
01:05:39,917 --> 01:05:41,785
You can over time pay it back.

1804
01:05:41,785 --> 01:05:43,720
I know when I was in miami

1805
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,690
gardens at one point before I

1806
01:05:45,690 --> 01:05:47,992
got all the development getting

1807
01:05:47,992 --> 01:05:49,994
the general fund had the I

1808
01:05:49,994 --> 01:05:51,195
guess our version of our er, we

1809
01:05:51,195 --> 01:05:53,164
had to loan them money but when

1810
01:05:53,164 --> 01:05:54,164
I got development kicking they

1811
01:05:54,164 --> 01:05:56,670
paid it back.

1812
01:05:56,670 --> 01:05:59,667
Why are you taking it instead

1813
01:06:10,448 --> 01:06:12,448
of borrowing it?

1814
01:06:12,483 --> 01:06:14,385
>> we have not considered that,

1815
01:06:14,385 --> 01:06:15,454
I've not had that discussion.

1816
01:06:15,454 --> 01:06:15,754
I'm happy to have the

1817
01:06:15,754 --> 01:06:17,489
discussion.

1818
01:06:17,489 --> 01:06:19,390
I would point out the obvious

1819
01:06:19,390 --> 01:06:20,591
challenge is we are so

1820
01:06:20,591 --> 01:06:22,527
imbalanced now we don't have a

1821
01:06:22,527 --> 01:06:24,362
path to breakeven much less pay

1822
01:06:24,362 --> 01:06:25,430
something back but I didn't

1823
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:27,399
wouldn't be opposed to

1824
01:06:27,399 --> 01:06:29,401
attempting a plan but the plan

1825
01:06:29,401 --> 01:06:31,370
MAY include fare increases or

1826
01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:33,370
implementing charges that

1827
01:06:33,605 --> 01:06:33,839
historically we've not been

1828
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,541
allowed.

1829
01:06:35,541 --> 01:06:36,609
>chair: but then you also

1830
01:06:36,609 --> 01:06:38,544
don't know what happens.

1831
01:06:38,544 --> 01:06:40,479
The challenge with the rtz when

1832
01:06:40,479 --> 01:06:42,381
she talks about we need to look

1833
01:06:42,381 --> 01:06:44,383
at what we can do with it we

1834
01:06:44,383 --> 01:06:45,652
understand the challenge, that

1835
01:06:45,652 --> 01:06:47,386
people in the corridor don't

1836
01:06:47,386 --> 01:06:48,621
want to build density.

1837
01:06:48,621 --> 01:06:50,623
So we've left the option for us

1838
01:06:50,623 --> 01:06:52,525
to come back and oppose it if

1839
01:06:52,525 --> 01:06:53,692
we want to so future boards

1840
01:06:53,692 --> 01:06:55,528
can't impose that.

1841
01:06:55,528 --> 01:06:57,397
But we haven't gone that route.

1842
01:06:57,397 --> 01:06:58,598
Things will happen and there

1843
01:06:58,598 --> 01:07:00,466
will be more money that comes

1844
01:07:00,466 --> 01:07:02,368
in but the question just being

1845
01:07:02,368 --> 01:07:03,569
even if we adjust the

1846
01:07:03,569 --> 01:07:05,471
percentages of what comes from

1847
01:07:05,471 --> 01:07:07,407
the tid there are things you

1848
01:07:07,407 --> 01:07:09,409
can do in the future to reclaim

1849
01:07:09,409 --> 01:07:09,609
some of that money if it's a

1850
01:07:09,609 --> 01:07:10,643
loan.

1851
01:07:10,643 --> 01:07:11,411
But if we're just giving it to

1852
01:07:11,411 --> 01:07:12,478
you.

1853
01:07:12,478 --> 01:07:16,678
And also it being a loan helps

1854
01:07:30,970 --> 01:07:31,932
from my perspective because

1855
01:07:31,932 --> 01:07:33,166
it's very difficult for me to

1856
01:07:33,166 --> 01:07:35,234
reconcile the fact that I told

1857
01:07:35,234 --> 01:07:36,937
people this would go into the

1858
01:07:36,937 --> 01:07:38,172
fund that would help with rapid

1859
01:07:38,172 --> 01:07:38,939
mass transit and I let you read

1860
01:07:38,939 --> 01:07:40,939
it.

1861
01:07:40,975 --> 01:07:42,176
Last year was an emergency, I

1862
01:07:42,176 --> 01:07:44,770
explained but I can't explain

1863
01:07:44,770 --> 01:07:45,947
an emergency two years in a

1864
01:07:45,947 --> 01:07:47,480
row, that's a challenge so I

1865
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:48,983
don't like doing that.

1866
01:07:48,983 --> 01:07:50,150
That is the challenge.

1867
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:52,550
Everyone here and everyone

1868
01:07:52,987 --> 01:07:54,188
watching these are the candid

1869
01:07:54,188 --> 01:07:56,188
conversations.

1870
01:08:10,105 --> 01:08:12,106
That I have with the

1871
01:08:12,106 --> 01:08:12,306
administration behind closed

1872
01:08:12,306 --> 01:08:14,175
doors.

1873
01:08:14,175 --> 01:08:16,111
We don't have an opportunity to

1874
01:08:16,111 --> 01:08:16,411
speak behind closed doors but

1875
01:08:16,411 --> 01:08:18,246
this is it.

1876
01:08:18,246 --> 01:08:19,281
So I understand their need is

1877
01:08:19,281 --> 01:08:21,281
actually pressing.

1878
01:08:22,150 --> 01:08:23,118
It is not an insignificant or

1879
01:08:23,118 --> 01:08:24,252
trifling need.

1880
01:08:24,252 --> 01:08:26,121
There is an actual problem.

1881
01:08:26,121 --> 01:08:27,389
They are solving a problem,

1882
01:08:27,389 --> 01:08:29,324
this is the only way they think

1883
01:08:29,324 --> 01:08:32,924
they can solve it because the

1884
01:08:33,128 --> 01:08:34,362
board to your acknowledgment is

1885
01:08:34,362 --> 01:08:36,131
not allowed you to raise fairs,

1886
01:08:36,131 --> 01:08:37,333
I understand that.

1887
01:08:37,333 --> 01:08:38,233
But two things can be true at

1888
01:08:38,233 --> 01:08:40,135
the same time.

1889
01:08:40,135 --> 01:08:41,303
That can be true and also one

1890
01:08:41,303 --> 01:08:43,205
can be true as I told the

1891
01:08:43,205 --> 01:08:45,541
resident if they pull this out

1892
01:08:45,541 --> 01:08:46,342
and it goes into the tid you

1893
01:08:46,342 --> 01:08:48,144
can bank money for rapid mass

1894
01:08:48,144 --> 01:08:50,146
transit, that's true to.

1895
01:08:50,146 --> 01:08:52,146
>>commissioner regalado: to

1896
01:08:52,414 --> 01:08:53,248
follow-up, my cities it's been

1897
01:08:53,248 --> 01:08:55,116
paid in full but they've

1898
01:08:55,116 --> 01:08:57,152
managed our zoning permit coral

1899
01:08:57,152 --> 01:08:58,321
gables created their own rtz

1900
01:08:58,321 --> 01:09:00,656
overlay which we helped them

1901
01:09:00,656 --> 01:09:02,124
create in their doing that.

1902
01:09:02,124 --> 01:09:03,325
South miami meant our zoning so

1903
01:09:03,325 --> 01:09:05,227
along the corridor I've asked

1904
01:09:05,227 --> 01:09:07,130
our partners to suffer this

1905
01:09:07,130 --> 01:09:08,364
density in the name of a

1906
01:09:08,364 --> 01:09:10,133
comprehensive transit plan.

1907
01:09:10,133 --> 01:09:11,267
So I agree with you, the

1908
01:09:11,267 --> 01:09:14,267
question is what are our

1909
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:20,944
revenue sources in the future?

1910
01:09:20,944 --> 01:09:22,879
Like what can we do?

1911
01:09:22,879 --> 01:09:24,781
It's very difficult for me to

1912
01:09:24,781 --> 01:09:26,160
go back to my residence and say

1913
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,160
you are suffering density along

1914
01:09:30,153 --> 01:09:31,354
this corridor, you're building

1915
01:09:31,354 --> 01:09:33,256
the tid and we are paying for

1916
01:09:33,256 --> 01:09:33,490
people to have subsidized metro

1917
01:09:33,490 --> 01:09:35,325
connect.

1918
01:09:35,325 --> 01:09:37,127
The fact that we've spent 32

1919
01:09:37,127 --> 01:09:38,862
million on that over the last

1920
01:09:38,862 --> 01:09:40,831
four years, now they are paying

1921
01:09:40,831 --> 01:09:41,640
something but it's still a huge

1922
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:42,966
subsidy.

1923
01:09:42,966 --> 01:09:46,566
For someone in my corridor they

1924
01:09:46,837 --> 01:09:48,906
are like, we would like to have

1925
01:09:48,906 --> 01:09:50,841
transit that goes countywide,

1926
01:09:50,841 --> 01:09:52,843
we are suffering the density

1927
01:09:52,843 --> 01:09:55,843
but somewhere in that either

1928
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:56,247
someone is doing something

1929
01:09:56,247 --> 01:09:57,314
else.

1930
01:09:57,314 --> 01:09:59,250
I'll give you an example.

1931
01:09:59,250 --> 01:10:01,118
At tri-rail we got fdot money

1932
01:10:01,118 --> 01:10:05,318
to do first and last mile and

1933
01:10:08,293 --> 01:10:09,427
contracted with uber and my

1934
01:10:09,427 --> 01:10:11,496
board wanted to do something

1935
01:10:11,496 --> 01:10:13,364
similar and I was against it.

1936
01:10:13,364 --> 01:10:15,266
Instead of subsidizing the full

1937
01:10:15,266 --> 01:10:16,434
ride we gave people a five

1938
01:10:16,434 --> 01:10:19,434
dollar credit if they were

1939
01:10:25,577 --> 01:10:26,111
going to go beyond five dollars

1940
01:10:26,111 --> 01:10:27,713
that was on them, not me.

1941
01:10:27,713 --> 01:10:29,581
It's insane that we do it the

1942
01:10:29,581 --> 01:10:30,649
other way around so we are

1943
01:10:30,649 --> 01:10:31,850
having the user pay 350

1944
01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:33,752
subsidized what the difference

1945
01:10:33,752 --> 01:10:35,588
is irrespective of what the

1946
01:10:35,588 --> 01:10:37,222
difference is even at tri-rail

1947
01:10:37,222 --> 01:10:38,690
we did this for a year.

1948
01:10:38,690 --> 01:10:40,592
We follow the mystics, and when

1949
01:10:40,592 --> 01:10:42,594
it came back and we looked at

1950
01:10:42,594 --> 01:10:44,595
what we were investing versus

1951
01:10:44,595 --> 01:10:46,799
what we were getting we decided

1952
01:10:46,799 --> 01:10:48,734
to give the money back to fdot

1953
01:10:48,734 --> 01:10:50,635
and canceled it and only kept

1954
01:10:50,635 --> 01:10:52,838
ourselves at the airport which

1955
01:10:52,838 --> 01:10:53,805
was not an easy thing to do.

1956
01:10:53,805 --> 01:10:55,742
You can invert metro connect

1957
01:10:55,742 --> 01:10:57,543
and say this is the line item,

1958
01:10:57,543 --> 01:11:01,143
this is what we are doing.

1959
01:11:21,568 --> 01:11:22,601
We will give you a credit and

1960
01:11:22,601 --> 01:11:24,504
you deal with the rest.

1961
01:11:24,504 --> 01:11:26,373
Or you can shrink the geography

1962
01:11:26,373 --> 01:11:26,573
of it so that is meeting its

1963
01:11:26,573 --> 01:11:28,475
needs.

1964
01:11:28,475 --> 01:11:30,377
But the reason we are in this

1965
01:11:30,377 --> 01:11:31,477
conversation is because we

1966
01:11:31,477 --> 01:11:33,380
canceled bus routes and now

1967
01:11:33,380 --> 01:11:34,547
we're going to subsidized metro

1968
01:11:34,547 --> 01:11:35,482
connect so we can cancel more

1969
01:11:35,482 --> 01:11:37,351
bus routes?

1970
01:11:37,351 --> 01:11:38,552
Then what do we do, come back

1971
01:11:38,552 --> 01:11:40,354
and say we need more metro

1972
01:11:40,354 --> 01:11:41,488
connect to deal with the

1973
01:11:41,488 --> 01:11:42,489
canceled bus routes?

1974
01:11:42,489 --> 01:11:44,489
It's madness.

1975
01:11:44,524 --> 01:11:46,360
So I think we should look into

1976
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,595
some sort of mechanism that

1977
01:11:47,595 --> 01:11:49,496
brings the money back in order

1978
01:11:49,496 --> 01:11:51,365
to do that we need to have a

1979
01:11:51,365 --> 01:11:52,466
conversation about revenue

1980
01:11:52,466 --> 01:11:54,368
generation and that means

1981
01:11:54,368 --> 01:11:54,601
putting a pin in some of these

1982
01:11:54,601 --> 01:11:56,437
things.

1983
01:11:56,437 --> 01:11:57,705
We've got a tourniquet here and

1984
01:11:57,705 --> 01:11:59,373
we're bleeding out.

1985
01:11:59,373 --> 01:12:01,375
And we need to be honest about

1986
01:12:01,375 --> 01:12:02,610
our priorities are and those

1987
01:12:02,610 --> 01:12:05,380
priorities should be buses, we

1988
01:12:05,380 --> 01:12:05,847
should prioritize buses over

1989
01:12:05,847 --> 01:12:07,481
alternatives to buses.

1990
01:12:07,481 --> 01:12:09,450
Then we need to figure out what

1991
01:12:09,450 --> 01:12:10,451
we are actually building and

1992
01:12:10,451 --> 01:12:12,553
what we are doing.

1993
01:12:12,553 --> 01:12:13,621
And how we can get some easy

1994
01:12:13,621 --> 01:12:15,490
wins in terms of transit and I

1995
01:12:15,490 --> 01:12:17,459
think we can do some of that in

1996
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the next few months as we look

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into this budget and create

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some revenue generation.

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>>chair: to the attorney, do we

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have language, you can read to

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us and see if we can bring the

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item.

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>> the motion would be too

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amend item 1g1 to provide

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municipal circulator service be

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operated until such vehicles

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reach 20 model years of age.

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He change would only apply to

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municipal circulator vehicles

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and not fixed road vehicles in

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reference to 350,000 miles will

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be stricken from the ordinance.

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>>commissioner regalado: the

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city of miami's issue is

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because remember this was from

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:21,958
coral gables, coral gables has

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short routes so their mileage

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is low.

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City of miami travels a lot

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more, their mileage is high

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01:13:27,832 --> 01:13:29,320
they are less than 20 years old

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so if we take out the 350,000

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01:13:30,934 --> 01:13:31,968
mileage issue it's good with

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01:13:31,968 --> 01:13:34,300
the city of miami.

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01:13:34,300 --> 01:13:35,839
I want to make sure it doesn't

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01:13:35,839 --> 01:13:36,874
impact us so if it's

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01:13:36,874 --> 01:13:38,410
municipalities.

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01:13:38,410 --> 01:13:40,844
>> with this change it would

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01:13:40,844 --> 01:13:42,145
apply to municipal circulators.

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>>chair: show the item amended

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and I will need a motion.

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S

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amended, seconded by bermudez,

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ordinance or right resolution?

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Call the roll.

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>>commissioner bastien:

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>>commissioner bermudez: yes.

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>>commissioner regalado: yes as

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01:13:56,861 --> 01:13:57,228
amended.

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>>chair:

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01:13:59,864 --> 01:14:01,164
>> motion passes unanimously.

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01:14:01,164 --> 01:14:03,564
>>commissioner regalado: I need

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01:14:08,506 --> 01:14:09,507
to move 2a to our next bcc

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because of the gap.

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01:14:09,707 --> 01:14:11,707
'm happy

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01:14:15,245 --> 01:14:17,315
to draft the memo.

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01:14:17,315 --> 01:14:19,217
2a is a interlocal agreement

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01:14:19,217 --> 01:14:21,152
between miami dade county and

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01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,153
the village of key biscayne for

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01:14:22,153 --> 01:14:24,153
the e bikes.

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01:14:25,624 --> 01:14:27,624
Perfect, thank you.

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01:14:33,831 --> 01:14:35,801
>> I'd like to add request 3k

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01:14:35,801 --> 01:14:38,170
to advance and we will draft a

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memo for your consideration.

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>>commissioner regalado:

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please, pretty please.

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JULY.

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And I'm committed to helping

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01:14:50,749 --> 01:14:51,750
transit while you are gone,

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01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:53,750
committed.

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01:14:53,752 --> 01:14:55,253
>>commissioner bermudez: the

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letters say she has committed

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01:14:56,956 --> 01:14:58,857
to helping transit because all

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01:14:58,857 --> 01:15:00,759
of us are committed to helping

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01:15:00,759 --> 01:15:03,759
transit while you are gone,

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01:15:03,829 --> 01:15:05,765
she's trying to butter you up.

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01:15:05,765 --> 01:15:06,966
>>chair: I credit stacy with

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01:15:06,966 --> 01:15:10,566
this, she called at 7:41 in the

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01:15:13,205 --> 01:15:15,274
morning pleading this case.

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01:15:15,274 --> 01:15:18,874
>> you don't answer my calls at

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01:15:30,323 --> 01:15:32,325
7:41 but you answer hers?

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01:15:32,325 --> 01:15:34,326
>>chair: is called caller id,

2073
01:15:34,326 --> 01:15:35,562
she calls a lot less frequently

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01:15:35,562 --> 01:15:37,431
than you do so you can wait

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01:15:37,431 --> 01:15:39,433
until 10, she's calling at 7:41

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01:15:39,433 --> 01:15:41,334
it is a pressing issue, I might

2077
01:15:41,334 --> 01:15:41,567
have a bus on fire if she calls

2078
01:15:41,567 --> 01:15:43,436
at 7:41.

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01:15:43,436 --> 01:15:45,338
I guess we will move it ahead.

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01:15:45,338 --> 01:15:46,840
You've got to draft a memo.

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,808
Happy birthday but let's

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01:15:48,808 --> 01:15:49,910
remember that CHAIRMAN's office

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01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:51,912
has to approve this.

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01:15:51,912 --> 01:15:52,145
I'm just recommending it, thank

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01:15:52,145 --> 01:15:54,145
you all.

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01:15:54,614 --> 01:15:56,417
So anything additional?

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01:15:56,417 --> 01:15:59,417
Need a motion to adjourn.

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Show us adjourned, thank you.