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>>chair: would everyone please

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take their seats.

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We are going to begin now.

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Going to ask my dear colleague

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commissioner gonzalez to lead

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us in prayer and commissioner

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cohen higgins to lead us in the

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pledge of allegiance.

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>>commissioner gonzalez: it

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thank you MADAM Chair. If you

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can bow your heads, thank you

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for this wonderful day you've

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given us, we pray you bless

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everybody in attendance, bless

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every commissioner up here in

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this committeeand in all the

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committees, every director in

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miami-dade county, let your

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will be done and let every

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decision we make and everything

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we do before your glory and for

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the betterment of people of

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miami-dade county, in your holy

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name we pray amen.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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flag of the united states of

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america and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation

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under GOD indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>>chair: thank you.

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morning everyone.

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So MR. Attorney, at this time

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would it be appropriate to

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extend reasonable opportunity

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for the public to be heard?

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>> thank you MADAM Chair. This

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would be appropriate time for

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the reasonable opportunity to

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be heard on any nonpublic

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>>chair: I don't have any cards

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for non-public hearing items so

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is there anyone who wishes to

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address the commission for the

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non-public hearing item?

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Seeing none then we will

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entertain.

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A motion to set the agenda.

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>> MADAM Chair.

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>>chair: excuse me, my

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apologies.

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>> this is my first time here,

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not sure if I'm here but I want

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to talk on economic opportunity

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of miami-dade county for the

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residents of hialeah, is this

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the appropriate time or do I

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come back.

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>>chair: this is your card,

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hosea?

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I believe you filled out a

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public hearing card.

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Do you know the item number you

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>> the grants awarded, how it

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impacts communities like

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hialeah for economic

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opportunity, do I come back.

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>>chair: you MAY, you have two

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>> 7088 southpark drive, I have

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experienced with cultural

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affairs holiday award grants

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and hialeah only received

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50,000 of that and it's

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something I stressed to the

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cultural affairs department,

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when you provide a grant your

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providing economic

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opportunities.

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dollar grants are very

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well-funded, very

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well-developed and it's not

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fair for income communities.

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e pay 28% of our taxes go to

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miami-dade county and we are

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98% spanish-speaking and

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unfortunately a lot of our

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residents don't know the system

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but I asked for the cultural

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affairs board or even the

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grants you'll board for

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projects that they include

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putting in systems for

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communities that are

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disenfranchised, communities

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that are marginalized, low

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income, that they have to make

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I am a retired employee with

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the parks and recreation

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department for hialeah and when

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they built the underlined my

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friends working for miami-dade

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county only wanted a bicycle

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trail but it was when related

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groups got involved and wanted

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the economic impact but

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unfortunately now we are

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speaking and not heard because

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how are you going to hear me

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when you have these big

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companies.

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way down south, ignoring

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alapata as north hialeah even

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though we have green space so I

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hope you talk about quality and

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equity, there is no equity in

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the way you award your grants

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for cultural affairs.

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I hope you look into that and

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sometimes it's not done on

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purpose but when you make

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someone aware I hold you look

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into it and make it equitable

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we are communities like

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hialeah, we have the highest

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percentage of humans and we are

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rich in cultural affairs but we

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don't have the know-how and I

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hope you look out for us.

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>>chair: thank you josc, seeing

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no further public input we are

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ready to set the agenda,

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correct attorney?

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>> yes MADAM Chair, matters for

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consideration in today's

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meeting are on the final

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printed agenda with changes

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noted in the changes memorandum

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which included the addition of

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item 3c and 3d so without a

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motion to set the agenda is in

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order.

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>>chair: motion by commissioner

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cohen higgins, second by

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commissioner gonzalez, all in

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favor say aye.

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Any matters, just so everyone

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knows I will take up the

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discussion items at the end of

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the meeting so we will move

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towards the public hearing

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item, 1g1.

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to public hearing item 1g1 now?

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Class and ordinance related to

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the rules of procedure of the

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board of county commissioners

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amending two b

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one of the code

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of miami-dade county revising

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requirements relating to

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notification provided by the

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county mayor or designee to all

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commissioners of certain

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matters originating with the

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administration providing

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severability inclusion in the

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code and an effective date.

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>>chair: public hearing is open

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if anyone wishes to speak on

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item 1g1.

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Seeing none, so the public

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hearing is now closed, do I

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have a motion on 1g1 and any

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I have a motion by commissioner

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cohen higgins, second by

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commissioner gonzalez, MADAM

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Clerk will you call the roll.

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>>commissioner cohen higgins:

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for.

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>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

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>>chair: yes.

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>> motion passes unanimously.

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>>chair: now would you like to

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bifurcate any of the items on

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the agenda for discussion?

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approve the agenda?

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>>commissioner gonzalez: I

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>>chair: seconded by

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commissioner cohen higgins, all

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So I also have a request to

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waive iiib, 3c and 3d to the

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JULY 21 bcc meeting.

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waive onto the meeting?

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attorney on the agenda.

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>>chair: we will move to the

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>>chair: good morning chief.

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>> I like to introduce ophelia

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mayor the internal compliance

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strategic objectives for the

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>>chair: thank you so much, you

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gerald and lopez and members of

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the committee, I'm pleased to

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provide an overview of the

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internal compliance department,

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the results we are delivering,

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the challenges affecting our

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work and modernization

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priorities that position us to

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provide greater value.

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at its core icd is an

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internal controls improve

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business processes recover

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revenue, manage risk and use

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county resources more

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effectively.

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responsibilities of the

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departments preventative focus

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consideration could be given to

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referring our role as a

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counties enterprise risk

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management function.

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Our mission is to support

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county administration and

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ultimately county residents.

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performance and strengthening

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accountability across the

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organization.

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Our goal is to identify issues

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early, provide practical

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recommendations and health

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management implement

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improvements before small

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control weaknesses become

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larger problems.

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municipalities and

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Icd brings together several

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functions that reinforce one

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another to protect county

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resources by managing risk,

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strengthening controls and

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ensuring accountability.

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Credit and collections covers

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delinquent receivables and

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helps protect revenue needed to

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support county services.

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prevention and mitigation of

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property liability and personal

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risks.

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He purchasing card

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compliance division promotes

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secure and efficient card use

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while monitoring transactions

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for compliance.

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The process and control

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management team conducts

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targeted reviews of operations,

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contracts revenues and internal

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controls.

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These reviews are intended not

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only to identify deficiencies

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but improve processes.

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These divisions collectively

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strengthen the counties

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integrity and operational

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resilience by preventing loss,

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managing risk, ensuring

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compliance, protecting revenue

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and driving continuous

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improvement.

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While icd was currently

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supporting counties enterprise

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resource planning system, that

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responsibility is scheduled to

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be managed by the clerk of

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court as of AUGUST 3, 2026.

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Our recent accomplishments

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demonstrate the value of this

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integrated approach.

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It debt collections have

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increased by 11%.

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Not just a reflection of

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stronger collection activity

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but also effectuating

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compliance where at equitable.

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Process and control management

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completed 52 review reports in

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the prior year, identifying

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preventative improvements while

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also identifying about $402,000

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in assessments and

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approximately $613,000

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recovered from previously

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issued reports.

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Within purchasing card

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compliance process improvements

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reduced monitoring turnaround

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time improving responsiveness

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and making the process more

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seamless for cardholders and

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departments.

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We are also beginning to

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incorporate artificial

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intelligence into selected

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activities.

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Our goal is not to replace

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professional judgment, is to

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automate repetitive work

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analyzed larger amounts of

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information and allow employees

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to focus on higher value

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activities.

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At the same time several issues

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can inhibit our ability to

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expand these results.

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The first is a legacy code

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enforcement system.

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F age

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limits automation system

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integration analytics and

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reporting.

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The second issue is workforce

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capacity.

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Ecruitment,

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retention and retirements, the

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3rs affect our ability to

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maintain and service and

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demands.

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Risk management is also a major

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priority.

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The county faces a wide range

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of exposures including employee

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injuries, vehicle accidents,

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property losses liability

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claims to be or whether an

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operational disruptions.

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A more coordinated data-driven

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risk management approach can

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help reduce both the frequency

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and financial impact of these

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events.

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Finally icd must continuously

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manage competing priorities.

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Our challenge is to remain

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responsive while keeping

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attention on the counties

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highest risk and highest value

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needs.

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Our first priority is replacing

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the legacy code enforcement

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system.

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His should be viewed

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as a business process

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modernization effort not simply

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an information technology

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replacement.

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A modern platform can improve

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case management collections

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reporting data quality and

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accountability.

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Our second priority is

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expanding the responsible use

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of artificial intelligence and

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collections and process

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reviews.

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Potential applications include

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prioritizing accounts analyzing

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documents identifying

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anomalies, evaluating trends

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and responding to routine

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customer questions.

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Our third priority is

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strengthening risk management

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processes and controls.

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We want to move from reacting

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to claims after losses occur to

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identifying causes and helping

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departments prevent future

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losses.

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These initiatives are

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connected.

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Better systems produce better

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data.

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Better data supports better

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analysis and better analysis

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allows us to direct resources

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towards the areas where they

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can produce a greater benefit.

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Looking ahead our modernization

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strategy is centered on three

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outcomes, first we will

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strengthen internal controls

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and enterprise risk management

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through risk-based planning

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workforce development and

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stronger follow-up corrective

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actions.

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Second we will

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modernize collections by

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expanding digital tools,

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improving customer outreach and

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giving collectors better

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information to prioritize

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accounts.

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Third we will continue

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optimizing the purchasing card

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program through dashboard

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analytics and more timely

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reporting.

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The broader objective is a

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coordinated effort across the

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department rather than a series

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of isolated projects.

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In closing ultimately icds

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value should be measured by

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outcomes.

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Revenue collector recovered

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increased compliance, losses

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prevented, processes improved,

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internal controls strengthened

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and risk addressed before they

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become larger problems.

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We appreciate the committees

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support as we continue

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strengthening roles as a

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high-impact operational partner

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to the county administration

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and departments and ultimately

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county residents, thank you.

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>>chair: thank you director,

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any questions of the director

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on her presentation,

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commissioner cohen higgins.

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>>commissioner cohen higgins:

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to our director I appreciate

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the presentation on the slides,

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I'm looking through my papers,

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do you have a printout so we

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MAY have a copy on the dais?

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And our previous hearings where

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I know a number of departments

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if not all have been giving

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presentations I previously

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mentioned monday I know the

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charge from the administration

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was to keep all departmental

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budgets at no greater than a 3%

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increase year-over-year.

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Does your budget reflect that

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charge and that mandate?

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and you're passing out the

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presentations I appreciate it,

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nothing further.

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>>chair: any questions, seeing

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none thank you director for

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your presentation.

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Now we will hear from the

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strategic procurement

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department.

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>> we invite namita oppal to

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present.

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>>chair: you are recognized.

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>> namita oppal, director for

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procurement.

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What I'm presenting today is a

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reflection of values and the

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principles that the board has

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always focused on.

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Strategic procurement

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department division is to be

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the leader, global leader of

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purpose driven deployments,

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purpose matters.

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Purpose, I'm sorry.

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Purpose is a reflection of the

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values the board has adopted.

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Being transparent, being fair,

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being inclusive.

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It's not a matter of just

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getting a contract done and

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getting approved, it has value.

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It delivers value to the

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residence, delivers value to

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the department and contracts

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enable departments to reach out

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to the customers and deliver

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service and the board has

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always proffered on going above

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and beyond.

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Make sure the processes are

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transparent, make sure we are

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responsive to the constituents,

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making sure we are resilient

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and adaptive to the evolving

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needs of the environment.

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We are ethical in our business

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practices, we are efficient.

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We train our people.

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We train our vendors.

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We are inclusive and yesterday

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we heard community benefits so

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that is the whole purpose, the

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word purpose includes all of

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these values.

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In our contracts, that is the

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goal, that is our vision and

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that's what we strive for.

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The major functions for my

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department of course, we bring

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you the contracts for goods and

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services, architecture

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engineering services, design

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build, public-private

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partnership.

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Last year the board approved

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the merger of small business

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services with procurement and

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with that we have all the

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certification programs we had

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miscellaneous construction

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contracts program, equitable

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distribution.

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19 also manages the vendor

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registration through the county

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for all county vendors.

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We do run to academies,

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procurement academy for

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training programs for county

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staff.

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There are professionals in all

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county departments and ask a

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matter of fact there are a lot

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of jurisdictions cities and

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counties who have taken

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advantage of our procurement

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training.

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We are also partnering with

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international companies relying

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on us for training programs.

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We also have a vendor training

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academy that offers a lot of

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vendor training activities, how

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to do business with the county

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and those are provided online

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as well as in person.

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We also reach out to your

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district offices to do training

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programs, all encompassing the

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vendor academy that we have.

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This year as part of the budget

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the mayor has proffered the

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movements of real estate

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management division from pi od

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to strategic procurement

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department and with that the

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acquisition and sale of

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00:20:53,553 --> 00:20:55,553
properties, any development

597
00:20:55,589 --> 00:20:57,558
agreement and leases will fall

598
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under the strategic procurement

599
00:20:57,858 --> 00:20:59,858
department.

600
00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:02,263
Our main customers, key

601
00:21:02,263 --> 00:21:04,165
customers are obviously the

602
00:21:04,165 --> 00:21:06,330
first customers are the county

603
00:21:06,330 --> 00:21:06,333
residents that we provide

604
00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:08,680
service to.

605
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Vendor community, county

606
00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,380
departments, constitutional

607
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,410
offices and municipalities.

608
00:21:13,410 --> 00:21:14,309
There are a lot of

609
00:21:14,309 --> 00:21:16,760
municipalities who piggyback on

610
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,120
our contracts and use our

611
00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:18,212
training programs that we

612
00:21:18,212 --> 00:21:20,480
offer.

613
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,648
Just very high level of key

614
00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:33,280
accomplishments, we actually

615
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,630
were, are probably one of the

616
00:21:35,630 --> 00:21:37,310
first ones to use ai tools and

617
00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:38,901
we develop those in the house.

618
00:21:38,901 --> 00:21:40,869
One of the ai tools is the

619
00:21:40,869 --> 00:21:42,905
appointment of the selection

620
00:21:42,905 --> 00:21:44,390
committee, the other is the ai

621
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:46,800
tool to train my staff read

622
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800
that tool is actually includes

623
00:22:02,425 --> 00:22:03,592
all of the code regulations and

624
00:22:03,592 --> 00:22:05,594
rules and processes and staff

625
00:22:05,594 --> 00:22:07,429
can actually go in the tool and

626
00:22:07,429 --> 00:22:08,865
say how to do an rfp in miami

627
00:22:08,865 --> 00:22:10,467
dade county and we share

628
00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:11,568
information that is relevant to

629
00:22:11,568 --> 00:22:13,503
miami dade county, not the

630
00:22:13,503 --> 00:22:15,471
other jurisdictions so the

631
00:22:15,471 --> 00:22:16,505
tools were recognized as one of

632
00:22:16,505 --> 00:22:18,505
the pioneer tools.

633
00:22:18,508 --> 00:22:19,543
We have, we were selected by fa

634
00:22:19,543 --> 00:22:20,744
po for excellence in

635
00:22:20,744 --> 00:22:22,478
procurement award.

636
00:22:22,478 --> 00:22:23,646
Selected by the national

637
00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:25,448
procurement institute.

638
00:22:25,448 --> 00:22:27,848
We also launched a

639
00:22:31,870 --> 00:22:33,870
certification program, that's

640
00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:33,323
probably one of its kind in the

641
00:22:33,323 --> 00:22:35,191
country.

642
00:22:35,191 --> 00:22:37,930
It's a certification of public

643
00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:39,630
procurement professionals and

644
00:22:39,630 --> 00:22:40,264
we have certified over 449

645
00:22:40,264 --> 00:22:42,660
individuals in the county and

646
00:22:42,660 --> 00:22:44,660
other jurisdictions are

647
00:22:44,368 --> 00:22:45,680
modeling our program through

648
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:45,268
this certification.

649
00:22:45,268 --> 00:22:47,236
E reached

650
00:22:47,236 --> 00:22:49,730
out to them, we did 359 events

651
00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:50,541
for vendors reaching out to

652
00:22:50,541 --> 00:22:52,243
almost 24,000 participants.

653
00:22:52,243 --> 00:22:56,443
We bring items to the board in

654
00:22:58,650 --> 00:23:00,485
the volume that you see in

655
00:23:00,485 --> 00:23:01,719
every board and committee and

656
00:23:01,719 --> 00:23:03,621
in 2025 we brought $5.4 billion

657
00:23:03,621 --> 00:23:04,989
worth of contracts for board

658
00:23:04,989 --> 00:23:07,389
approval, 179 items and be

659
00:23:12,297 --> 00:23:13,531
thank the chair for appointing

660
00:23:13,531 --> 00:23:15,500
the task force and you will see

661
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:16,433
the recommendations coming very

662
00:23:16,433 --> 00:23:18,302
soon.

663
00:23:18,302 --> 00:23:19,471
We analyzed 200 pieces of

664
00:23:19,471 --> 00:23:21,339
legislation and are making

665
00:23:21,339 --> 00:23:23,339
significant recommendations.

666
00:23:37,955 --> 00:23:39,925
For making the process better.

667
00:23:39,925 --> 00:23:40,292
Like any other department we do

668
00:23:40,292 --> 00:23:41,126
have key issues.

669
00:23:41,126 --> 00:23:43,280
Ome of them

670
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,830
of course complicated when it

671
00:23:44,830 --> 00:23:46,640
comes to federal state and

672
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,966
local regulations and we are

673
00:23:47,966 --> 00:23:49,869
hoping that through the strict

674
00:23:49,869 --> 00:23:51,103
we can it on and some of the

675
00:23:51,103 --> 00:23:52,871
local regulations so we can

676
00:23:52,871 --> 00:23:53,105
expedite the procurement

677
00:23:53,105 --> 00:23:54,940
process.

678
00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:56,909
We have multiple systems that

679
00:23:56,909 --> 00:23:58,844
don't talk to each other so we

680
00:23:58,844 --> 00:24:00,913
are trying to figure out and of

681
00:24:00,913 --> 00:24:02,114
course informs as our system of

682
00:24:02,114 --> 00:24:04,950
record but to get the job done

683
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:06,986
there are multiple systems we

684
00:24:06,986 --> 00:24:08,119
use so we are trying to create

685
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,989
platforms so staff does not

686
00:24:09,989 --> 00:24:11,157
have to rely on multiple

687
00:24:11,157 --> 00:24:12,958
systems to get from point a to

688
00:24:12,958 --> 00:24:14,600
point b. Staff retention has

689
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,961
always been an issue.

690
00:24:15,961 --> 00:24:17,930
i did lose and I mentioned it

691
00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:19,933
to commissioner cohen higgins I

692
00:24:19,933 --> 00:24:21,234
lost six or seven people to

693
00:24:21,234 --> 00:24:23,350
constitutional offices in the

694
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:24,700
past year and retention is

695
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:25,204
always key.

696
00:24:25,204 --> 00:24:25,972
Which we are trying our best to

697
00:24:25,972 --> 00:24:26,939
retain.

698
00:24:26,939 --> 00:24:28,939
Few priority

699
00:24:32,979 --> 00:24:34,914
initiatives, streamlining,

700
00:24:34,914 --> 00:24:36,916
these are the three initiatives

701
00:24:36,916 --> 00:24:38,786
we actually came out of the

702
00:24:38,786 --> 00:24:39,753
strict and we were working on

703
00:24:39,753 --> 00:24:41,155
some of them.

704
00:24:41,155 --> 00:24:43,155
Streamlining this small

705
00:24:43,824 --> 00:24:45,250
business certification program

706
00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:47,827
and what we are proffering is

707
00:24:47,827 --> 00:24:48,829
there were 60 requirements,

708
00:24:48,829 --> 00:24:51,229
over 60 requirements for a

709
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,469
vendor to get certified though

710
00:24:55,469 --> 00:24:57,437
we are reducing it down to the

711
00:24:57,437 --> 00:24:59,407
board all approval authority

712
00:24:59,407 --> 00:25:01,342
and reducing processing time to

713
00:25:01,342 --> 00:25:03,911
get certified as a small

714
00:25:03,911 --> 00:25:05,911
business by 50%.

715
00:25:05,946 --> 00:25:07,140
I know the board is always

716
00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:08,850
questioning why procurement

717
00:25:08,850 --> 00:25:10,840
takes long and one of our

718
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,886
commitments to the board is to

719
00:25:11,886 --> 00:25:12,860
reduce the procurement cycle

720
00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:14,860
time.

721
00:25:16,157 --> 00:25:17,992
Our goal is for procurements

722
00:25:17,992 --> 00:25:19,894
and they are 5 million, we

723
00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:21,196
should be able to make an award

724
00:25:21,196 --> 00:25:23,196
recommendation between 90 to

725
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:30,272
120 days and over 5 million

726
00:25:30,272 --> 00:25:32,274
between 120 to 150 days and

727
00:25:32,274 --> 00:25:33,541
that's from the receipt of

728
00:25:33,541 --> 00:25:36,277
proposals to the mayor making

729
00:25:36,277 --> 00:25:37,512
the recommendation, that is our

730
00:25:37,512 --> 00:25:39,481
commitment and that is what we

731
00:25:39,481 --> 00:25:41,416
are working towards diligently

732
00:25:41,416 --> 00:25:43,286
and lastly creating an online

733
00:25:43,286 --> 00:25:44,419
dashboard that's key to our

734
00:25:44,419 --> 00:25:45,487
vendors, key to our

735
00:25:45,487 --> 00:25:47,455
constituents and the board if

736
00:25:47,455 --> 00:25:49,291
you can go online and see what

737
00:25:49,291 --> 00:25:51,260
the status of each procurement

738
00:25:51,260 --> 00:25:52,294
is and that is one of our key

739
00:25:52,294 --> 00:25:53,429
initiatives.

740
00:25:53,429 --> 00:25:55,363
future outlook, of course

741
00:25:55,363 --> 00:25:58,266
processing time, making sure we

742
00:25:58,266 --> 00:25:58,568
do this with speed and

743
00:25:58,568 --> 00:25:59,702
efficiency.

744
00:25:59,702 --> 00:26:02,102
98 to 130 days after 5 million.

745
00:26:07,709 --> 00:26:09,678
We did launch a comprehensive

746
00:26:09,678 --> 00:26:10,813
small local business plan

747
00:26:10,813 --> 00:26:12,748
ensuring taxpayer dollars

748
00:26:12,748 --> 00:26:13,850
remain within the local

749
00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:16,850
economy, that's key and the

750
00:26:17,553 --> 00:26:18,721
last one is coming up with one

751
00:26:18,721 --> 00:26:20,290
single bidding system for

752
00:26:20,290 --> 00:26:22,290
capital projects.

753
00:26:28,699 --> 00:26:29,833
And those are the few key

754
00:26:29,833 --> 00:26:30,800
priorities we hope to

755
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800
accomplish very soon.

756
00:26:33,303 --> 00:26:34,470
I'm here for questions and

757
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:36,870
commissioner cohen higgins, we

758
00:26:38,609 --> 00:26:42,209
are also at 3% and budget would

759
00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:45,215
reflect that.

760
00:26:45,215 --> 00:26:47,250
>>chair: thank you director,

761
00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:48,419
any questions of the director,

762
00:26:48,419 --> 00:26:50,220
commissioner cohen higgins you

763
00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,220
are recognized.

764
00:26:52,222 --> 00:26:54,222
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

765
00:26:56,626 --> 00:26:58,596
thank you MADAM Chair. To the

766
00:26:58,596 --> 00:27:00,531
director and this is for you in

767
00:27:00,531 --> 00:27:02,500
the previous director that gave

768
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,100
a presentation, what was it you

769
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:08,338
were asked to present, a budget

770
00:27:08,338 --> 00:27:10,308
presentation?

771
00:27:10,308 --> 00:27:12,420
I'm not being facetious, was

772
00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:14,440
the request a budget

773
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,440
presentation, that's my

774
00:27:16,460 --> 00:27:17,181
understanding of what was to be

775
00:27:17,181 --> 00:27:19,581
presented was a budget

776
00:27:31,863 --> 00:27:32,630
presentation or maybe I'm

777
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:33,898
wrong.

778
00:27:33,898 --> 00:27:34,966
>> the staff was asked to

779
00:27:34,966 --> 00:27:36,367
prepare summaries of the

780
00:27:36,367 --> 00:27:37,969
drivers for their budget.

781
00:27:37,969 --> 00:27:39,710
The accomplishments for the

782
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:41,500
year so you all would have

783
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:42,842
clarity on the assumptions that

784
00:27:42,842 --> 00:27:44,909
went into private how they

785
00:27:44,909 --> 00:27:45,243
prioritize their work for the

786
00:27:45,243 --> 00:27:47,780
upcoming year.

787
00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:49,470
At two or 2:30 today the mayor

788
00:27:49,470 --> 00:27:49,848
will be presenting our proposed

789
00:27:49,848 --> 00:27:51,848
budget.

790
00:27:51,883 --> 00:27:53,840
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

791
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,219
appreciate that but here's the

792
00:27:54,219 --> 00:27:55,921
reason I'm asking.

793
00:27:55,921 --> 00:27:57,922
On our agenda it says

794
00:27:57,922 --> 00:27:59,858
discussion item regarding the

795
00:27:59,858 --> 00:28:00,959
proposed fiscal year 26-27

796
00:28:00,959 --> 00:28:02,930
budget presentations and it

797
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:04,930
lists the department.

798
00:28:05,596 --> 00:28:07,398
We had to presentations devoid

799
00:28:07,398 --> 00:28:08,633
of any numbers whatsoever,

800
00:28:08,633 --> 00:28:10,400
there is not a number that's

801
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,702
been presented and we're

802
00:28:11,702 --> 00:28:13,537
talking about accomplishments

803
00:28:13,537 --> 00:28:14,671
but not numbers in a budget

804
00:28:14,671 --> 00:28:17,671
presentation so I'm not sure

805
00:28:27,917 --> 00:28:29,118
I'm understanding whether the

806
00:28:29,118 --> 00:28:30,953
presentations meet the request

807
00:28:30,953 --> 00:28:32,988
that has been made and I

808
00:28:32,988 --> 00:28:34,890
understand the budget will be

809
00:28:34,890 --> 00:28:36,124
printed at 2:30 today and there

810
00:28:36,124 --> 00:28:37,926
were things that will be

811
00:28:37,926 --> 00:28:41,526
revealed at that time but in

812
00:28:46,835 --> 00:28:48,836
transportation at started there appropriately

813
00:28:48,836 --> 00:28:49,170
because it is a budget

814
00:28:49,170 --> 00:28:51,380
presentation.

815
00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:52,907
I haven't heard a number from

816
00:28:52,907 --> 00:28:53,841
either department on what is

817
00:28:53,841 --> 00:28:55,109
their budget.

818
00:28:55,109 --> 00:28:56,977
>> through the chair, I'm not

819
00:28:56,977 --> 00:28:58,846
sure ophelia or namita if you

820
00:28:58,846 --> 00:28:59,947
are prepared to give your total

821
00:28:59,947 --> 00:29:01,947
numbers.

822
00:29:01,982 --> 00:29:03,917
>> our proposed budget is $53

823
00:29:03,917 --> 00:29:05,919
million including the real

824
00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:06,152
estate transition of the real

825
00:29:06,152 --> 00:29:07,920
estate.

826
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,320
F which 33 million as

827
00:29:10,323 --> 00:29:12,723
personnel, 1.2 is operating in

828
00:29:14,527 --> 00:29:15,528
7.2 is transferred to the

829
00:29:15,528 --> 00:29:16,795
department.

830
00:29:16,795 --> 00:29:18,795
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

831
00:29:19,532 --> 00:29:20,532
your department budget is $53

832
00:29:20,532 --> 00:29:22,532
million.

833
00:29:22,801 --> 00:29:24,670
>> if the adoption of the real

834
00:29:24,670 --> 00:29:25,504
estate function is adopted,

835
00:29:25,504 --> 00:29:26,738
yes.

836
00:29:26,738 --> 00:29:28,738
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

837
00:29:28,973 --> 00:29:29,507
that is within or below the 3%.

838
00:29:29,507 --> 00:29:30,775
>> yes.

839
00:29:30,775 --> 00:29:32,775
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

840
00:29:33,678 --> 00:29:35,213
from last year to this year.

841
00:29:35,213 --> 00:29:36,714
>> one of the things we did

842
00:29:36,714 --> 00:29:37,848
last year and that will be

843
00:29:37,848 --> 00:29:40,248
reflected is when small

844
00:29:43,387 --> 00:29:45,355
business function when it

845
00:29:45,355 --> 00:29:46,756
merges with procurement one of

846
00:29:46,756 --> 00:29:48,358
the charges I got was a

847
00:29:48,358 --> 00:29:50,360
reduction to 50 positions which

848
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,362
we did plus this year the real

849
00:29:52,362 --> 00:29:54,431
estate function approves 3% and

850
00:29:54,431 --> 00:29:57,431
also the eliminations that we

851
00:30:02,204 --> 00:30:04,204
have contemplated.

852
00:30:04,206 --> 00:30:05,441
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

853
00:30:05,441 --> 00:30:07,209
thank you and if the director

854
00:30:07,209 --> 00:30:08,444
on the icd department can

855
00:30:08,444 --> 00:30:10,412
approach and I'm not trying to

856
00:30:10,412 --> 00:30:12,313
get into any details before the

857
00:30:12,313 --> 00:30:14,216
budget is printed but I think

858
00:30:14,216 --> 00:30:15,483
macro numbers are appropriate

859
00:30:15,483 --> 00:30:17,452
during a budget presentation so

860
00:30:17,452 --> 00:30:21,520
if you don't mind approaching I

861
00:30:27,862 --> 00:30:29,897
have a few questions.

862
00:30:29,897 --> 00:30:31,865
>> through the chair one of the

863
00:30:31,865 --> 00:30:33,700
other things that's important

864
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:34,834
to note about both of these

865
00:30:34,834 --> 00:30:35,936
departments is they are not

866
00:30:35,936 --> 00:30:37,804
100% general fund.

867
00:30:37,804 --> 00:30:39,706
What we were doing this year

868
00:30:39,706 --> 00:30:40,940
when you reflect or focus on

869
00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:42,809
the 3% was trying to make sure

870
00:30:42,809 --> 00:30:44,710
that we bend the cost curve

871
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:46,712
related to the general fund

872
00:30:46,712 --> 00:30:47,880
departments so both of these

873
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280
women actually have departments

874
00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:53,886
that are revenue-generating so

875
00:30:53,886 --> 00:30:55,721
we are very intentional about

876
00:30:55,721 --> 00:30:57,723
making sure we protect the

877
00:30:57,723 --> 00:30:58,957
investments and parts of the

878
00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:00,725
organization that generate

879
00:31:00,725 --> 00:31:01,726
revenue that support the

880
00:31:01,726 --> 00:31:03,726
general fund.

881
00:31:03,728 --> 00:31:05,290
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

882
00:31:05,290 --> 00:31:08,290
thank you for clarifying, what

883
00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:20,375
is your budget?

884
00:31:20,377 --> 00:31:22,379
>> my budget will technically

885
00:31:22,379 --> 00:31:23,580
change drastically because the

886
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:25,548
enterprise resource team which

887
00:31:25,548 --> 00:31:27,383
is comprised of two different

888
00:31:27,383 --> 00:31:27,684
divisions is going to be

889
00:31:27,684 --> 00:31:29,519
transferred.

890
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:31,387
that portion represents a large

891
00:31:31,387 --> 00:31:31,554
portion of this budget right

892
00:31:31,554 --> 00:31:33,388
now.

893
00:31:33,388 --> 00:31:34,523
What's remaining will be

894
00:31:34,523 --> 00:31:36,391
administration credit

895
00:31:36,391 --> 00:31:37,593
collections which is self

896
00:31:37,593 --> 00:31:38,460
funded through the collections

897
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:40,460
they do.

898
00:31:40,462 --> 00:31:41,463
The process and control reports

899
00:31:41,463 --> 00:31:43,310
produced are also not

900
00:31:43,310 --> 00:31:44,499
completely general fund.

901
00:31:44,499 --> 00:31:45,634
And our risk management is

902
00:31:45,634 --> 00:31:46,568
actually self funded through

903
00:31:46,568 --> 00:31:48,568
the insurance.

904
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:50,471
Right now as we have proposed

905
00:31:50,471 --> 00:31:52,607
through the budget it's about

906
00:31:52,607 --> 00:31:54,508
72 million but again a large

907
00:31:54,508 --> 00:31:56,510
portion, half or more is that

908
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:57,544
technology divisions that are

909
00:31:57,544 --> 00:31:59,513
going.

910
00:31:59,513 --> 00:31:59,813
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

911
00:31:59,813 --> 00:32:01,615
going where?

912
00:32:01,615 --> 00:32:05,215
>> to the clerk of the court

913
00:32:07,621 --> 00:32:08,855
and comptroller.

914
00:32:08,855 --> 00:32:10,855
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

915
00:32:10,890 --> 00:32:12,759
on your debt collections page

916
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:14,593
of your presentation you have

917
00:32:14,593 --> 00:32:16,596
11%, sorry if you went over

918
00:32:16,596 --> 00:32:20,196
that previously but what is the

919
00:32:22,401 --> 00:32:24,369
11%.

920
00:32:24,369 --> 00:32:26,371
>> we have a budget to collect

921
00:32:26,371 --> 00:32:26,672
$24 million in a year, gross

922
00:32:26,672 --> 00:32:28,373
collections.

923
00:32:28,373 --> 00:32:29,674
Right now to date we have

924
00:32:29,674 --> 00:32:31,443
collected $21 million and this

925
00:32:31,443 --> 00:32:34,379
is what goes back to the

926
00:32:34,379 --> 00:32:34,679
departments and to jackson as

927
00:32:34,679 --> 00:32:36,514
collections.

928
00:32:36,514 --> 00:32:38,382
We are like their last line of

929
00:32:38,382 --> 00:32:39,383
collections as you very well

930
00:32:39,383 --> 00:32:40,351
know.

931
00:32:40,351 --> 00:32:41,452
So our team has been above and

932
00:32:41,452 --> 00:32:43,852
beyond in making these

933
00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:45,122
collections record than

934
00:32:45,122 --> 00:32:46,923
budgeted so that's why we are

935
00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:49,923
over our budget number in

936
00:32:51,861 --> 00:32:52,862
collections which is a good

937
00:32:52,862 --> 00:32:54,862
thing.

938
00:32:54,864 --> 00:32:56,132
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

939
00:32:56,132 --> 00:32:58,167
appreciate the explanation but

940
00:32:58,167 --> 00:32:59,870
i still don't understand, what

941
00:32:59,870 --> 00:33:01,870
is the 11% represent?

942
00:33:01,872 --> 00:33:03,373
>> over the budget amount.

943
00:33:03,373 --> 00:33:05,420
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

944
00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:06,876
so you collected 24 million,

945
00:33:06,876 --> 00:33:07,877
you've collected 11% above

946
00:33:07,877 --> 00:33:08,780
that, I understand.

947
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:09,880
Hank you

948
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880
for clarifying that.

949
00:33:11,882 --> 00:33:13,882
>> any other questions.

950
00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:16,510
>>chair: commissioner gonzales

951
00:33:17,187 --> 00:33:18,422
you are recognized.

952
00:33:18,422 --> 00:33:20,358
>>commissioner gonzalez: thank

953
00:33:20,358 --> 00:33:21,325
you MADAM Chair. I guess we'll

954
00:33:21,325 --> 00:33:23,263
start with you.

955
00:33:23,263 --> 00:33:24,395
You mentioned there is a 3%

956
00:33:24,395 --> 00:33:26,330
reduction, is that correct.

957
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:27,231
>> we maintain no more increase

958
00:33:27,231 --> 00:33:29,167
spending 3%.

959
00:33:29,167 --> 00:33:32,167
>> can you explain what 3% is

960
00:33:36,707 --> 00:33:37,775
attributed to.

961
00:33:37,775 --> 00:33:38,943
>> through the chair

962
00:33:38,943 --> 00:33:40,712
commissioner I want to make

963
00:33:40,712 --> 00:33:42,681
sure you understand the 3%

964
00:33:42,681 --> 00:33:42,914
number that keeps floating

965
00:33:42,914 --> 00:33:44,849
around.

966
00:33:44,849 --> 00:33:47,849
The departments were asked to

967
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:56,294
reduce by it's almost 5%

968
00:33:56,294 --> 00:33:57,428
because the natural inflation

969
00:33:57,428 --> 00:33:59,398
was between eight and 9%.

970
00:33:59,398 --> 00:34:01,300
We asked them to reduce so that

971
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:02,401
the growth in their department

972
00:34:02,401 --> 00:34:04,302
was no more than three.

973
00:34:04,302 --> 00:34:07,639
So if you remember the growth

974
00:34:07,639 --> 00:34:07,806
the county experienced was only

975
00:34:07,806 --> 00:34:09,642
4.2.

976
00:34:09,642 --> 00:34:10,843
We couldn't afford to maintain,

977
00:34:10,843 --> 00:34:13,843
if you recall the proposed 7%

978
00:34:17,115 --> 00:34:19,510
growth rate, so each of the

979
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:20,253
general fund departments was

980
00:34:20,253 --> 00:34:22,154
asked to see if they could

981
00:34:22,154 --> 00:34:22,355
reduce their growth rate down

982
00:34:22,355 --> 00:34:24,355
to 3%.

983
00:34:27,826 --> 00:34:29,162
That was the assignment.

984
00:34:29,162 --> 00:34:30,930
>>commissioner mcghee: it would

985
00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:32,310
be 4% so what is that for

986
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:34,660
present that you're not

987
00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:35,968
counting on, what specifically

988
00:34:35,968 --> 00:34:38,968
are, what specifically is the

989
00:34:45,611 --> 00:34:47,647
department cutting to avoid

990
00:34:47,647 --> 00:34:49,583
that excessive 4% growth?

991
00:34:49,583 --> 00:34:49,916
>> great question, we wanted

992
00:34:49,916 --> 00:34:51,584
our personnel.

993
00:34:51,584 --> 00:34:52,652
We have right sized the

994
00:34:52,652 --> 00:34:54,521
personnel so if we have

995
00:34:54,521 --> 00:34:55,522
vacancies we didn't need took

996
00:34:55,522 --> 00:34:56,656
advantage of that.

997
00:34:56,656 --> 00:34:58,525
We've also looked at the

998
00:34:58,525 --> 00:35:00,525
operational costs and

999
00:35:04,231 --> 00:35:06,132
streamline that as well.

1000
00:35:06,132 --> 00:35:07,333
If we had consulting costs we

1001
00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:09,236
also looked at that and saw if

1002
00:35:09,236 --> 00:35:11,138
our team could do it could save

1003
00:35:11,138 --> 00:35:13,306
money there as well so we have

1004
00:35:13,306 --> 00:35:15,306
given back.

1005
00:35:15,308 --> 00:35:16,576
>>commissioner gonzalez: as the

1006
00:35:16,576 --> 00:35:17,510
chief stated you are growing by

1007
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:18,344
3% instead of 7%.

1008
00:35:18,344 --> 00:35:20,344
Iq.

1009
00:35:21,916 --> 00:35:23,984
And namita, if you could

1010
00:35:23,984 --> 00:35:25,853
come up because you mentioned

1011
00:35:25,853 --> 00:35:28,121
that you folks were able to

1012
00:35:28,121 --> 00:35:30,521
eliminate 50 positions and then

1013
00:35:36,330 --> 00:35:37,631
so what is the, I guess the 4%

1014
00:35:37,631 --> 00:35:39,334
savings that you folks, what is

1015
00:35:39,334 --> 00:35:41,334
that attributed to?

1016
00:35:55,917 --> 00:35:57,819
>> 50 was because we merged

1017
00:35:57,819 --> 00:35:59,788
with small businesses in

1018
00:35:59,788 --> 00:36:01,790
procurement and were able to

1019
00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:02,900
identify synergies between the

1020
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:03,792
operations.

1021
00:36:03,792 --> 00:36:05,794
On top of that we have

1022
00:36:05,794 --> 00:36:06,600
proffered elimination of more

1023
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,862
positions.

1024
00:36:07,862 --> 00:36:09,640
Plus freezing some of the

1025
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,933
positions we think we don't

1026
00:36:10,933 --> 00:36:13,100
need right now but maybe in the

1027
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,970
future but and also eliminating

1028
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:16,805
any other operational costs we

1029
00:36:16,805 --> 00:36:18,390
could cut down to.

1030
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:19,908
>>commissioner gonzalez: so

1031
00:36:19,908 --> 00:36:20,810
your growth will only be by 3%

1032
00:36:20,810 --> 00:36:21,777
as well.

1033
00:36:21,777 --> 00:36:23,777
>> yes.

1034
00:36:23,812 --> 00:36:24,813
>>commissioner gonzalez: no

1035
00:36:24,813 --> 00:36:26,810
further questions.

1036
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:26,982
>>chair: vice CHAIRWOMAN You

1037
00:36:26,982 --> 00:36:28,951
are recognized.

1038
00:36:28,951 --> 00:36:30,820
>> my question is for ophelia,

1039
00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:33,220
what is the size of your

1040
00:36:33,220 --> 00:36:34,256
department.

1041
00:36:34,256 --> 00:36:36,158
>> I have with risk management

1042
00:36:36,158 --> 00:36:38,962
so risk management division in

1043
00:36:38,962 --> 00:36:42,562
the new budget year is coming

1044
00:36:44,901 --> 00:36:46,769
over it's about 311 total but

1045
00:36:46,769 --> 00:36:48,738
please keep in mind as of

1046
00:36:48,738 --> 00:36:49,873
AUGUST 3 I will lose the oes

1047
00:36:49,873 --> 00:36:51,908
division which has 36 oes

1048
00:36:51,908 --> 00:36:53,843
division which has 36 positions

1049
00:36:53,843 --> 00:36:55,711
and that ets division which has

1050
00:36:55,711 --> 00:36:56,979
about 46 positions.

1051
00:36:56,979 --> 00:36:58,979
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1052
00:36:59,820 --> 00:36:59,850
so the 311 makes up for the 72

1053
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:01,718
million budget.

1054
00:37:01,718 --> 00:37:04,118
>> but then that signified

1055
00:37:12,228 --> 00:37:13,463
portion of that.

1056
00:37:13,463 --> 00:37:15,298
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1057
00:37:15,298 --> 00:37:17,200
you were touching that but I

1058
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,469
don't know if you gave us the

1059
00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:20,270
number and as you're looking

1060
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:22,439
for that number what is the

1061
00:37:22,439 --> 00:37:24,174
breakdown between your

1062
00:37:24,174 --> 00:37:25,375
operating and personnel costs?

1063
00:37:25,375 --> 00:37:26,210
>> I will get you that right

1064
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:27,444
now.

1065
00:37:27,444 --> 00:37:29,380
>> through the chair, some of

1066
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,283
the changes ophelia is speaking

1067
00:37:31,283 --> 00:37:32,416
of MAY not be reflected in the

1068
00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:34,185
budget published today, they

1069
00:37:34,185 --> 00:37:34,293
MAY be in the change memo.

1070
00:37:34,293 --> 00:37:36,186
E

1071
00:37:36,186 --> 00:37:38,188
are working with the clerk and

1072
00:37:38,188 --> 00:37:40,125
comptroller's office to ensure

1073
00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:42,260
that we transition the right

1074
00:37:42,260 --> 00:37:43,227
number of employees with the

1075
00:37:43,227 --> 00:37:46,227
right amount of funding to

1076
00:37:51,503 --> 00:37:52,570
support this effort so I don't

1077
00:37:52,570 --> 00:37:54,505
want anyone to have the

1078
00:37:54,505 --> 00:37:55,506
expectation they will see that

1079
00:37:55,506 --> 00:37:56,607
this afternoon.

1080
00:37:56,607 --> 00:37:58,543
Some changes will not be

1081
00:37:58,543 --> 00:38:01,813
reflected until we are able to

1082
00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:03,810
finish that project.

1083
00:38:03,810 --> 00:38:04,916
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1084
00:38:04,916 --> 00:38:07,585
what is the anticipated time

1085
00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:08,854
you will figure out the change.

1086
00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:10,756
>> we are very close, AUGUST 3

1087
00:38:10,756 --> 00:38:13,558
is the date we are hoping to

1088
00:38:13,558 --> 00:38:14,826
have the transition completed.

1089
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,695
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1090
00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:18,898
we should see those numbers

1091
00:38:18,898 --> 00:38:20,666
reflected in the budget.

1092
00:38:20,666 --> 00:38:23,660
>> 2627 budget you will opine

1093
00:38:29,976 --> 00:38:31,944
on in DECEMBER.

1094
00:38:31,944 --> 00:38:32,945
>> employee wise it's over 50%

1095
00:38:32,945 --> 00:38:34,112
county employees.

1096
00:38:34,112 --> 00:38:35,948
Some operational costs are

1097
00:38:35,948 --> 00:38:37,215
driven by the consulting

1098
00:38:37,215 --> 00:38:39,218
services as well and mainly for

1099
00:38:39,218 --> 00:38:40,486
the system.

1100
00:38:40,486 --> 00:38:42,221
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1101
00:38:42,221 --> 00:38:42,455
what do you mean for the

1102
00:38:42,455 --> 00:38:44,257
system?

1103
00:38:44,257 --> 00:38:45,224
>> the enterprise resource

1104
00:38:45,224 --> 00:38:46,492
planning system.

1105
00:38:46,492 --> 00:38:48,492
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1106
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,200
so you are 50-50.

1107
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,680
50% is personnel costs, okay

1108
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,400
and do you know how much of

1109
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,139
that you will offload once it

1110
00:38:59,139 --> 00:38:59,372
moves over to the clerk's

1111
00:38:59,372 --> 00:39:01,372
office?

1112
00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:10,140
Or estimate.

1113
00:39:10,170 --> 00:39:12,190
>> through the chair, ophelia I

1114
00:39:12,190 --> 00:39:13,953
prefer we not give an estimate.

1115
00:39:13,953 --> 00:39:17,553
We are very close MADAM Chair

1116
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:21,562
and commissioner milian orbis

1117
00:39:21,562 --> 00:39:22,730
and I can even give you a

1118
00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:25,432
head's up as soon as we get

1119
00:39:25,432 --> 00:39:26,433
that completed over the next

1120
00:39:26,433 --> 00:39:28,433
week.

1121
00:39:28,435 --> 00:39:28,803
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1122
00:39:28,803 --> 00:39:30,803
okay, thank you.

1123
00:39:31,439 --> 00:39:34,439
I think this presentation would

1124
00:39:38,111 --> 00:39:40,882
be helpful to have a breakdown

1125
00:39:40,882 --> 00:39:42,490
of what you are anticipating is

1126
00:39:42,490 --> 00:39:44,510
going to be shifted away from

1127
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:45,886
your department, it would be

1128
00:39:45,886 --> 00:39:47,888
helpful to see what we are

1129
00:39:47,888 --> 00:39:49,491
looking at as we look into the

1130
00:39:49,491 --> 00:39:49,757
budget that's going to be

1131
00:39:49,757 --> 00:39:51,757
presented.

1132
00:39:51,893 --> 00:39:53,895
I think that information was

1133
00:39:53,895 --> 00:39:55,960
helpful and it would have been

1134
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,964
good to have it so if we could

1135
00:39:56,964 --> 00:39:58,900
have that updated in this

1136
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:00,168
presentation you gave us it

1137
00:40:00,168 --> 00:40:02,871
would be good to note the shift

1138
00:40:02,871 --> 00:40:03,871
and how it will look after that

1139
00:40:03,871 --> 00:40:05,871
transition is done.

1140
00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:13,248
hank you.

1141
00:40:13,248 --> 00:40:14,916
>> I have questions.

1142
00:40:14,916 --> 00:40:16,151
>> we will provide that.

1143
00:40:16,151 --> 00:40:18,860
>>chair: namita, you can come

1144
00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:20,220
up as well, I have questions

1145
00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:22,240
for both so we will start with

1146
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:23,225
vacancies which has always been

1147
00:40:23,225 --> 00:40:23,926
a pet peeve of mine in

1148
00:40:23,926 --> 00:40:25,930
budgeting.

1149
00:40:25,930 --> 00:40:27,280
Both of you said you were

1150
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,931
reducing personnel, do you have

1151
00:40:28,931 --> 00:40:30,533
a schedule of the remaining

1152
00:40:30,533 --> 00:40:32,134
vacancies you have an aging for

1153
00:40:32,134 --> 00:40:33,936
those vacancies, you don't have

1154
00:40:33,936 --> 00:40:34,169
to have them now but do you

1155
00:40:34,169 --> 00:40:35,904
have it?

1156
00:40:35,904 --> 00:40:37,390
I'd like to see those, I'm

1157
00:40:37,390 --> 00:40:38,908
collecting them for all the

1158
00:40:38,908 --> 00:40:40,900
departments making budget

1159
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:41,911
presentations and it's

1160
00:40:41,911 --> 00:40:43,179
important to see that aging

1161
00:40:43,179 --> 00:40:45,914
because you MAY have gotten rid

1162
00:40:45,914 --> 00:40:48,918
of some of the vacancies but I

1163
00:40:48,918 --> 00:40:50,120
will need to know how you

1164
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,550
justify keeping any vacancy in

1165
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:53,560
your budget that is greater

1166
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,924
than 90 days.

1167
00:40:54,924 --> 00:40:55,958
That's just giving you full

1168
00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:57,958
warning on that.

1169
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,929
Namita, you talked about the

1170
00:40:59,929 --> 00:41:00,263
constitutional officers in your

1171
00:41:00,263 --> 00:41:02,132
presentation.

1172
00:41:02,132 --> 00:41:05,732
And I am a little confused.

1173
00:41:08,872 --> 00:41:10,908
So how much, because we've

1174
00:41:10,908 --> 00:41:11,908
heard from the constitutional

1175
00:41:11,908 --> 00:41:12,108
officers on monday.

1176
00:41:12,108 --> 00:41:13,876
'll much

1177
00:41:13,876 --> 00:41:16,876
of what you're doing, I'm

1178
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:26,723
trying to understand what part

1179
00:41:26,723 --> 00:41:28,493
you are doing for them that

1180
00:41:28,493 --> 00:41:28,792
they are not doing for

1181
00:41:28,792 --> 00:41:30,561
themselves.

1182
00:41:30,561 --> 00:41:32,290
I have the impression they are

1183
00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:33,497
doing their own procurement but

1184
00:41:33,497 --> 00:41:34,698
I see you are doing

1185
00:41:34,698 --> 00:41:36,500
procurement, can you explain

1186
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:37,567
that in greater detail?

1187
00:41:37,567 --> 00:41:39,503
>> MADAM Chair, for the

1188
00:41:39,503 --> 00:41:41,505
sheriff's office we are doing

1189
00:41:41,505 --> 00:41:43,674
all they are procurements now.

1190
00:41:43,674 --> 00:41:45,576
clerk and comptroller is doing

1191
00:41:45,576 --> 00:41:46,744
I would say most of they are

1192
00:41:46,744 --> 00:41:49,144
procurements but they used

1193
00:41:53,951 --> 00:41:55,119
county contract.

1194
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,154
My presentation what I said was

1195
00:41:57,154 --> 00:42:00,250
I lost seven key professionals

1196
00:42:00,250 --> 00:42:01,920
to the clerk because they chose

1197
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:01,926
to accept positions with the

1198
00:42:01,926 --> 00:42:03,461
clerk.

1199
00:42:03,461 --> 00:42:04,929
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1200
00:42:04,929 --> 00:42:06,964
I'm referring to your

1201
00:42:06,964 --> 00:42:08,964
customers, which constitutional

1202
00:42:18,811 --> 00:42:20,679
officers would be helpful.

1203
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:21,847
>> we are doing all

1204
00:42:21,847 --> 00:42:22,680
procurements for sheriff's

1205
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,682
office.

1206
00:42:23,682 --> 00:42:25,183
Elections we do the

1207
00:42:25,183 --> 00:42:26,918
procurements for them for the

1208
00:42:26,918 --> 00:42:28,688
ones where we are obligated by

1209
00:42:28,688 --> 00:42:31,880
the florida statute for

1210
00:42:33,792 --> 00:42:35,760
example, be buying the system

1211
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,898
and things like that so we do

1212
00:42:36,898 --> 00:42:38,865
procurements for them.

1213
00:42:38,865 --> 00:42:40,199
Property appraiser we do not do

1214
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:41,867
any procurements for them.

1215
00:42:41,867 --> 00:42:43,835
Clark and the comptroller they

1216
00:42:43,835 --> 00:42:46,235
have established their own

1217
00:42:46,572 --> 00:42:46,939
procurement team to do their

1218
00:42:46,939 --> 00:42:47,906
own procurement.

1219
00:42:47,906 --> 00:42:49,777
>>chair: it will be helpful

1220
00:42:49,777 --> 00:42:51,100
when you can give us the

1221
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:52,912
numbers as to what the value of

1222
00:42:52,912 --> 00:42:54,780
that service you are giving

1223
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:55,948
them because then I will ask

1224
00:42:55,948 --> 00:42:56,982
what are they doing on their

1225
00:42:56,982 --> 00:42:58,852
end as well.

1226
00:42:58,852 --> 00:42:59,953
I also wanted to talk with you

1227
00:42:59,953 --> 00:43:01,888
about the strip committee.

1228
00:43:01,888 --> 00:43:03,791
Their recommendations, when

1229
00:43:03,791 --> 00:43:04,900
will those be presented to us?

1230
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:05,925
Do you know.

1231
00:43:05,925 --> 00:43:09,525
>> I am thinking next week I

1232
00:43:23,343 --> 00:43:23,577
believe, I don't know the

1233
00:43:23,577 --> 00:43:25,445
answer.

1234
00:43:25,445 --> 00:43:27,347
>> it's been a question I've

1235
00:43:27,347 --> 00:43:28,515
been asking since you been

1236
00:43:28,515 --> 00:43:30,751
doing your work and it's the

1237
00:43:30,751 --> 00:43:31,552
one place I love to drill down

1238
00:43:31,552 --> 00:43:33,420
on which is procurement.

1239
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:35,355
As we've seen some of the

1240
00:43:35,355 --> 00:43:36,856
procurement processes be

1241
00:43:36,856 --> 00:43:38,493
questioned, I've had concerns

1242
00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:40,328
about how we procure things.

1243
00:43:40,328 --> 00:43:43,328
It's important for me to

1244
00:43:43,898 --> 00:43:44,164
understand the work of the

1245
00:43:44,164 --> 00:43:45,899
committee.

1246
00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:47,899
It's recommendations and

1247
00:43:47,901 --> 00:43:49,904
whether or not there were any

1248
00:43:49,904 --> 00:43:51,105
savings as a result of their

1249
00:43:51,105 --> 00:43:52,907
recommendations because I'm

1250
00:43:52,907 --> 00:43:55,420
hopeful not only were we

1251
00:43:55,420 --> 00:43:56,877
increasing efficiency by having

1252
00:43:56,877 --> 00:43:58,111
created a committee of people

1253
00:43:58,111 --> 00:44:01,711
who have used the system and

1254
00:44:07,755 --> 00:44:09,691
can tell us you know, their

1255
00:44:09,691 --> 00:44:11,793
experiences and then come forth

1256
00:44:11,793 --> 00:44:13,795
with recommendations that would

1257
00:44:13,795 --> 00:44:15,663
make the system more efficient,

1258
00:44:15,663 --> 00:44:17,598
I'm interested do did they

1259
00:44:17,598 --> 00:44:18,734
identify any savings and their

1260
00:44:18,734 --> 00:44:20,702
efficiency studies they were

1261
00:44:20,702 --> 00:44:22,604
doing with procurements, do you

1262
00:44:22,604 --> 00:44:23,738
know since you were there.

1263
00:44:23,738 --> 00:44:25,574
>> I don't know if they were

1264
00:44:25,574 --> 00:44:27,575
able to quantify but we did

1265
00:44:27,575 --> 00:44:28,711
identify the savings in the

1266
00:44:28,711 --> 00:44:30,679
number of days and moving

1267
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:32,548
things faster.

1268
00:44:32,548 --> 00:44:33,749
How do you equate that to

1269
00:44:33,749 --> 00:44:35,617
dollar savings, I don't think

1270
00:44:35,617 --> 00:44:36,818
that was the exercise the

1271
00:44:36,818 --> 00:44:38,554
committee did but definitely

1272
00:44:38,554 --> 00:44:40,589
the time savings were

1273
00:44:40,589 --> 00:44:41,824
significant that you will see.

1274
00:44:41,824 --> 00:44:43,726
>>chair: hopefully someone will

1275
00:44:43,726 --> 00:44:45,727
tell me when I'm going to see

1276
00:44:45,727 --> 00:44:46,795
those recommendations, that's

1277
00:44:46,795 --> 00:44:48,795
one question.

1278
00:44:50,333 --> 00:44:51,534
The other, you mentioned namita

1279
00:44:51,534 --> 00:44:53,436
when you were evaluating

1280
00:44:53,436 --> 00:44:54,437
systems you mentioned that many

1281
00:44:54,437 --> 00:44:55,604
don't each other.

1282
00:44:55,604 --> 00:44:57,506
I would like a listing.

1283
00:44:57,506 --> 00:45:01,311
I was a member of the house it

1284
00:45:01,311 --> 00:45:03,212
committee when we did this work

1285
00:45:03,212 --> 00:45:05,214
and I thought it was a useful

1286
00:45:05,214 --> 00:45:07,614
exercise to understand where

1287
00:45:15,657 --> 00:45:16,858
are the deficits in our it

1288
00:45:16,858 --> 00:45:17,859
systems or in any system that

1289
00:45:17,859 --> 00:45:19,727
doesn't each other.

1290
00:45:19,727 --> 00:45:21,629
i'd like a list of all the

1291
00:45:21,629 --> 00:45:22,864
systems not speaking to each

1292
00:45:22,864 --> 00:45:24,632
other and if they are speaking

1293
00:45:24,632 --> 00:45:25,833
to a system which ones?

1294
00:45:25,833 --> 00:45:27,768
It would be helpful for this

1295
00:45:27,768 --> 00:45:30,168
committee to understand whether

1296
00:45:33,174 --> 00:45:35,410
or not, because I see a lot of

1297
00:45:35,410 --> 00:45:36,476
items that come before us that

1298
00:45:36,476 --> 00:45:38,450
have to do with extending

1299
00:45:38,450 --> 00:45:41,450
contracts or legacy, I love

1300
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:46,986
that word, the legacy systems.

1301
00:45:46,986 --> 00:45:48,870
I don't know that that's the

1302
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:49,922
best use of our funds or

1303
00:45:49,922 --> 00:45:51,924
whether it's efficient in

1304
00:45:51,924 --> 00:45:52,992
achieving outcomes which we are

1305
00:45:52,992 --> 00:45:54,992
purchasing systems for.

1306
00:45:56,595 --> 00:45:57,863
I'd like to see an analysis by

1307
00:45:57,863 --> 00:45:59,765
department which systems when

1308
00:45:59,765 --> 00:46:01,700
they were bought, if they were

1309
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:03,602
replaced or if they had to be

1310
00:46:03,602 --> 00:46:05,603
replaced by something else

1311
00:46:05,603 --> 00:46:07,372
because it didn't work in those

1312
00:46:07,372 --> 00:46:08,873
systems not working with each

1313
00:46:08,873 --> 00:46:09,807
other creating inefficiencies

1314
00:46:09,807 --> 00:46:11,807
in government.

1315
00:46:11,876 --> 00:46:13,677
>> MAY I ask for clarification,

1316
00:46:13,677 --> 00:46:15,613
you one of the list of the

1317
00:46:15,613 --> 00:46:15,813
systems book procurement team

1318
00:46:15,813 --> 00:46:17,714
uses.

1319
00:46:17,714 --> 00:46:20,714
>>chair: just belongs you were

1320
00:46:28,558 --> 00:46:30,593
referring to because I find it

1321
00:46:30,593 --> 00:46:32,595
curious we know they don't each

1322
00:46:32,595 --> 00:46:33,863
other so is a known fact we are

1323
00:46:33,863 --> 00:46:35,731
inefficient and that's costing

1324
00:46:35,731 --> 00:46:37,600
us money so I would like to

1325
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,834
know which ones those are and

1326
00:46:38,834 --> 00:46:40,669
in addition you mentioned in

1327
00:46:40,669 --> 00:46:41,837
your proposal priority, under

1328
00:46:41,837 --> 00:46:44,237
your priority initiatives you

1329
00:47:00,855 --> 00:47:02,723
had budgetary impact.

1330
00:47:02,723 --> 00:47:02,956
And I see there's no budget

1331
00:47:02,956 --> 00:47:03,924
impact.

1332
00:47:03,924 --> 00:47:05,992
Where do I see savings?

1333
00:47:05,992 --> 00:47:06,126
I don't hear savings.

1334
00:47:06,126 --> 00:47:07,728
Et me

1335
00:47:07,728 --> 00:47:07,994
tell you why I ask this

1336
00:47:07,994 --> 00:47:09,730
question.

1337
00:47:09,730 --> 00:47:10,931
When the governor's budget

1338
00:47:10,931 --> 00:47:13,320
would come to my committee I

1339
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,801
said thank you and then I would

1340
00:47:14,801 --> 00:47:15,935
meet with every department and

1341
00:47:15,935 --> 00:47:17,770
I wouldn't say you get to

1342
00:47:17,770 --> 00:47:18,938
decrease your growth to 3%, I

1343
00:47:18,938 --> 00:47:19,839
said go back and reduce your

1344
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:21,808
budgets by 3%.

1345
00:47:21,808 --> 00:47:23,743
So I'm curious, is there any

1346
00:47:23,743 --> 00:47:25,211
budgetary savings anywhere in

1347
00:47:25,211 --> 00:47:25,878
your budget anywhere?

1348
00:47:25,878 --> 00:47:27,913
You can answer it.

1349
00:47:27,913 --> 00:47:28,713
>> item curious how you define

1350
00:47:28,713 --> 00:47:30,713
that.

1351
00:47:30,716 --> 00:47:31,950
>>chair: let's assume I was

1352
00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:32,718
spending $100 million last

1353
00:47:32,718 --> 00:47:33,952
year.

1354
00:47:33,952 --> 00:47:35,854
Is there anywhere you can tell

1355
00:47:35,854 --> 00:47:37,856
me in that hundred million

1356
00:47:37,856 --> 00:47:38,990
dollars budget you were able to

1357
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:40,859
achieve some savings?

1358
00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:42,860
>> commissioner, by the mere

1359
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:44,862
fact we were able to eliminate

1360
00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:46,797
50 positions and some of those

1361
00:47:46,797 --> 00:47:49,197
were filled that's $5 million

1362
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:52,136
right there because we were

1363
00:47:52,136 --> 00:47:54,370
able to combine the functions

1364
00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:55,973
and synergies between

1365
00:47:55,973 --> 00:47:57,974
procurement and small business.

1366
00:47:57,974 --> 00:47:58,975
That was straightaway $5

1367
00:47:58,975 --> 00:48:00,975
million.

1368
00:48:01,445 --> 00:48:02,479
>>chair: it already did, were

1369
00:48:02,479 --> 00:48:04,479
those filled decisions?

1370
00:48:04,547 --> 00:48:07,547
Have they been terminated or

1371
00:48:13,255 --> 00:48:13,555
did you move them to another

1372
00:48:13,555 --> 00:48:15,424
department.

1373
00:48:15,424 --> 00:48:19,240
>> some of them had rights, I

1374
00:48:23,198 --> 00:48:24,732
see where the positions work.

1375
00:48:24,732 --> 00:48:26,234
>>commissioner lopez: that

1376
00:48:26,234 --> 00:48:28,336
makes zero sense to me to tell

1377
00:48:28,336 --> 00:48:30,138
me you eliminated 50 positions

1378
00:48:30,138 --> 00:48:32,139
but then I find out those 50

1379
00:48:32,139 --> 00:48:32,440
people are somewhere else in

1380
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,275
the budget.

1381
00:48:34,275 --> 00:48:36,143
>> one of the great things

1382
00:48:36,143 --> 00:48:40,343
about the county is it is a

1383
00:48:46,352 --> 00:48:48,321
fairly large institution.

1384
00:48:48,321 --> 00:48:49,622
So when positions are

1385
00:48:49,622 --> 00:48:51,324
eliminated based on the

1386
00:48:51,324 --> 00:48:53,526
classification of the employee

1387
00:48:53,526 --> 00:48:55,427
they have particular employment

1388
00:48:55,427 --> 00:48:56,595
rights so we worked hard, this

1389
00:48:56,595 --> 00:48:58,497
board directed us to make sure

1390
00:48:58,497 --> 00:49:01,497
the hundred 50 people laid off

1391
00:49:02,734 --> 00:49:03,902
had jobs so the positions

1392
00:49:03,902 --> 00:49:05,737
eliminated we work and I love

1393
00:49:05,737 --> 00:49:06,972
to give credit to virginia

1394
00:49:06,972 --> 00:49:08,807
washington our ahead of people

1395
00:49:08,807 --> 00:49:12,407
who tried to make sure every

1396
00:49:15,413 --> 00:49:17,315
human being found a position

1397
00:49:17,315 --> 00:49:19,216
they were qualified for so they

1398
00:49:19,216 --> 00:49:20,217
did not necessarily have to

1399
00:49:20,217 --> 00:49:21,752
leave the county.

1400
00:49:21,752 --> 00:49:23,220
So the elimination of the

1401
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:25,221
positions funded or unfunded

1402
00:49:25,221 --> 00:49:27,223
did result in savings because

1403
00:49:27,223 --> 00:49:28,325
those individuals some left the

1404
00:49:28,325 --> 00:49:30,725
county, others went into

1405
00:49:35,598 --> 00:49:37,499
positions that had great need.

1406
00:49:37,499 --> 00:49:38,735
One of our great stories and

1407
00:49:38,735 --> 00:49:40,569
they are loves to tell is about

1408
00:49:40,569 --> 00:49:42,504
those who worked in parks as

1409
00:49:42,504 --> 00:49:43,672
lifeguards and were able to get

1410
00:49:43,672 --> 00:49:45,507
vacant positions in the fire

1411
00:49:45,507 --> 00:49:47,907
department as lifeguards that

1412
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,948
were difficult to fill.

1413
00:49:52,948 --> 00:49:55,783
So namita, ofelia, anyone of

1414
00:49:55,783 --> 00:49:56,951
the departments that had to be

1415
00:49:56,951 --> 00:49:58,753
eliminated or positions that

1416
00:49:58,753 --> 00:49:59,530
were filled that had to be

1417
00:49:59,530 --> 00:50:00,755
eliminated.

1418
00:50:00,755 --> 00:50:02,690
We actually take pride in

1419
00:50:02,690 --> 00:50:04,191
trying to make sure the

1420
00:50:04,191 --> 00:50:05,826
individuals, that humans are

1421
00:50:05,826 --> 00:50:06,860
not displaced to the extent

1422
00:50:06,860 --> 00:50:08,860
that's possible.

1423
00:50:30,252 --> 00:50:31,286
It doesn't undermine the

1424
00:50:31,286 --> 00:50:32,454
savings.

1425
00:50:32,454 --> 00:50:34,256
>>commissioner lopez: I

1426
00:50:34,256 --> 00:50:35,457
appreciate that vary much but

1427
00:50:35,457 --> 00:50:35,724
you know me, truth in

1428
00:50:35,724 --> 00:50:37,458
budgeting.

1429
00:50:37,458 --> 00:50:38,359
You will hear me say this until

1430
00:50:38,359 --> 00:50:40,262
we are done.

1431
00:50:40,262 --> 00:50:41,330
The public deserves to know

1432
00:50:41,330 --> 00:50:43,265
that's what you did.

1433
00:50:43,265 --> 00:50:44,432
The public deserves to know

1434
00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,334
that you eliminated vacancies

1435
00:50:46,334 --> 00:50:48,336
if there were vacancies, 2 if

1436
00:50:48,336 --> 00:50:49,538
you had to terminate people how

1437
00:50:49,538 --> 00:50:51,407
many left the county and how

1438
00:50:51,407 --> 00:50:53,809
many did you place in another

1439
00:50:53,809 --> 00:50:54,477
position within the county

1440
00:50:54,477 --> 00:50:56,411
because in fact I don't know

1441
00:50:56,411 --> 00:50:58,347
that that's called a savings.

1442
00:50:58,347 --> 00:50:58,548
That's called a transfer in my

1443
00:50:58,548 --> 00:51:00,249
book.

1444
00:51:00,249 --> 00:51:01,450
In my accounting book.

1445
00:51:01,450 --> 00:51:03,386
So you have to be clear when

1446
00:51:03,386 --> 00:51:05,786
you're talking about savings

1447
00:51:05,921 --> 00:51:07,256
because I'm going to be

1448
00:51:07,256 --> 00:51:07,422
watching very carefully all of

1449
00:51:07,422 --> 00:51:09,259
it.

1450
00:51:09,259 --> 00:51:10,459
And if you had to move a person

1451
00:51:10,459 --> 00:51:12,528
because they had employment

1452
00:51:12,528 --> 00:51:14,397
rights, that's understandable

1453
00:51:14,397 --> 00:51:16,465
but that's not a savings.

1454
00:51:16,465 --> 00:51:17,466
That became a transfer to

1455
00:51:17,466 --> 00:51:19,336
another position within the

1456
00:51:19,336 --> 00:51:20,570
county and that is what I am

1457
00:51:20,570 --> 00:51:22,472
trying to get at, that we have

1458
00:51:22,472 --> 00:51:23,272
to be honest about what we are

1459
00:51:23,272 --> 00:51:24,440
doing.

1460
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,275
It's okay to stand there and

1461
00:51:26,275 --> 00:51:27,376
tell me we got rid of 50

1462
00:51:27,376 --> 00:51:29,790
positions, it's not true.

1463
00:51:29,790 --> 00:51:30,514
If 20 people were transferred

1464
00:51:30,514 --> 00:51:32,282
to another place because they

1465
00:51:32,282 --> 00:51:33,450
had employment rights.

1466
00:51:33,450 --> 00:51:35,384
That's the level of detail I

1467
00:51:35,384 --> 00:51:37,253
will be looking for during this

1468
00:51:37,253 --> 00:51:38,588
budget process and let me keep

1469
00:51:38,588 --> 00:51:40,491
going, I found it interesting.

1470
00:51:40,491 --> 00:51:43,293
The transfer of positions to

1471
00:51:43,293 --> 00:51:43,527
the clerk and comptroller's

1472
00:51:43,527 --> 00:51:45,395
office.

1473
00:51:45,395 --> 00:51:47,397
He just presented his budget.

1474
00:51:47,397 --> 00:51:49,266
Did it have, is going to come

1475
00:51:49,266 --> 00:51:49,466
to us for a budget, here we go

1476
00:51:49,466 --> 00:51:50,568
again.

1477
00:51:50,568 --> 00:51:52,269
Listen carefully.

1478
00:51:52,269 --> 00:51:53,270
I look at a budget from a

1479
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:53,470
global perspective.

1480
00:51:53,470 --> 00:51:55,372
Look at

1481
00:51:55,372 --> 00:51:57,874
everyone asking us for money.

1482
00:51:57,874 --> 00:51:59,310
The clerk came with his budget

1483
00:51:59,310 --> 00:52:00,444
asking us for money so if we

1484
00:52:00,444 --> 00:52:02,413
are moving, from icd and I

1485
00:52:02,413 --> 00:52:04,281
don't remember how many people

1486
00:52:04,281 --> 00:52:08,481
but you said quite a few that

1487
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:11,322
showed them that you have a

1488
00:52:11,322 --> 00:52:13,157
savings.

1489
00:52:13,157 --> 00:52:15,590
It is the clerk going to come

1490
00:52:15,590 --> 00:52:16,260
and tell me now when you finish

1491
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:19,630
this agreement that needs money

1492
00:52:19,630 --> 00:52:20,498
for those or did his budget you

1493
00:52:20,498 --> 00:52:22,898
presented here on monday

1494
00:52:26,471 --> 00:52:28,372
contemplate that?

1495
00:52:28,372 --> 00:52:29,608
>> through the CHAIRWOMAN, the

1496
00:52:29,608 --> 00:52:31,643
budget the clerk presented to

1497
00:52:31,643 --> 00:52:33,378
us which was due several months

1498
00:52:33,378 --> 00:52:35,380
ago, weeks ago did not

1499
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:37,380
contemplate this particular

1500
00:52:37,515 --> 00:52:38,717
move.

1501
00:52:38,717 --> 00:52:40,652
So it will be for all intents

1502
00:52:40,652 --> 00:52:42,521
and purposes you look at the

1503
00:52:42,521 --> 00:52:44,523
general fund it will be a

1504
00:52:44,523 --> 00:52:46,524
transition of people and money

1505
00:52:46,524 --> 00:52:47,792
from one area to another area.

1506
00:52:47,792 --> 00:52:50,192
>>commissioner lopez: so it's

1507
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:02,441
not a savings.

1508
00:53:02,441 --> 00:53:04,376
When you present your budget

1509
00:53:04,376 --> 00:53:06,278
that's what I wanted to hear.

1510
00:53:06,278 --> 00:53:07,479
I should not have to ask this

1511
00:53:07,479 --> 00:53:09,348
question is what I'm saying,

1512
00:53:09,348 --> 00:53:11,250
you should be clear we are

1513
00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:12,452
moving people to the clerk and

1514
00:53:12,452 --> 00:53:14,386
the clerk will need that money

1515
00:53:14,386 --> 00:53:16,288
in my budget that's now going

1516
00:53:16,288 --> 00:53:16,522
to his budget so it's not a

1517
00:53:16,522 --> 00:53:18,257
savings.

1518
00:53:18,257 --> 00:53:19,559
You see where I'm going?

1519
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:23,159
This is why the public, listen,

1520
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:25,640
I am distressed that we are not

1521
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:25,932
transparent with every one of

1522
00:53:25,932 --> 00:53:27,932
these details.

1523
00:53:27,967 --> 00:53:29,836
Because that's what the public

1524
00:53:29,836 --> 00:53:31,805
is requiring and they deserve.

1525
00:53:31,805 --> 00:53:32,939
And certainly my colleagues and

1526
00:53:32,939 --> 00:53:34,808
myself in order to make a

1527
00:53:34,808 --> 00:53:37,142
decision, to tell the public

1528
00:53:37,142 --> 00:53:39,460
what's happening, I am only

1529
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:41,140
getting the information because

1530
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:42,216
I'm asking the right questions.

1531
00:53:42,216 --> 00:53:43,160
And I should not have to do

1532
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,350
that.

1533
00:53:44,350 --> 00:53:46,190
It should be totally

1534
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:47,253
transparent to this committee

1535
00:53:47,253 --> 00:53:49,156
and to the full board when we

1536
00:53:49,156 --> 00:53:51,125
make those decisions and to the

1537
00:53:51,125 --> 00:53:53,260
points lie colleagues have made

1538
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:55,280
here today, the budget will be

1539
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,129
rolled out this afternoon but

1540
00:53:56,129 --> 00:53:58,310
actually none of these

1541
00:53:58,310 --> 00:53:59,233
presentations are what this

1542
00:53:59,233 --> 00:54:02,233
committee needed, not at all.

1543
00:54:03,437 --> 00:54:05,472
I think it's wonderful.

1544
00:54:05,472 --> 00:54:08,472
But without dollars attached to

1545
00:54:14,481 --> 00:54:16,383
each one of these assumptions.

1546
00:54:16,383 --> 00:54:17,451
It's difficult for me to say I

1547
00:54:17,451 --> 00:54:19,354
know what's going on.

1548
00:54:19,354 --> 00:54:20,488
I don't think my colleagues do

1549
00:54:20,488 --> 00:54:23,488
either as you've heard today.

1550
00:54:23,658 --> 00:54:24,892
And honestly, I am somewhat

1551
00:54:24,892 --> 00:54:27,427
befuddled that we haven't been

1552
00:54:27,427 --> 00:54:30,427
able to cut our budgets.

1553
00:54:54,456 --> 00:54:56,391
When you think about the $150

1554
00:54:56,391 --> 00:54:58,293
billion a budget the state has,

1555
00:54:58,293 --> 00:54:59,562
every department, every

1556
00:54:59,562 --> 00:55:01,430
department was required to do

1557
00:55:01,430 --> 00:55:03,365
at least 3% budget savings.

1558
00:55:03,365 --> 00:55:04,466
So it's really hard for me to

1559
00:55:04,466 --> 00:55:06,401
understand how we are not

1560
00:55:06,401 --> 00:55:08,337
capable of finding a savings

1561
00:55:08,337 --> 00:55:10,273
and as I like to say and it is

1562
00:55:10,273 --> 00:55:11,474
not an indictment to any

1563
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:13,874
department or person but

1564
00:55:14,276 --> 00:55:15,277
there's always waste in

1565
00:55:15,277 --> 00:55:15,477
government, always.

1566
00:55:15,477 --> 00:55:17,477
've found

1567
00:55:17,513 --> 00:55:19,282
it at the state, I'm certain if

1568
00:55:19,282 --> 00:55:20,516
I did my job here which I

1569
00:55:20,516 --> 00:55:21,517
intend to do next budget cycle

1570
00:55:21,517 --> 00:55:23,286
I will find savings.

1571
00:55:23,286 --> 00:55:24,520
I know how to do it.

1572
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,520
We certainly have budget chairs

1573
00:55:27,623 --> 00:55:28,658
and budget staff that knew how

1574
00:55:28,658 --> 00:55:30,360
to do it at the state.

1575
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,428
I'm going to pledge to the

1576
00:55:32,428 --> 00:55:34,430
taxpayers listening here today,

1577
00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:35,298
this committee will in fact do

1578
00:55:35,298 --> 00:55:36,499
its job.

1579
00:55:36,499 --> 00:55:38,367
We MAY not have had enough time

1580
00:55:38,367 --> 00:55:42,567
to do it this session but we

1581
00:55:43,807 --> 00:55:45,675
will do it next year and you

1582
00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:46,810
will see drilling down like

1583
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:48,779
you've never seen before

1584
00:55:48,779 --> 00:55:50,681
because there is ways in which

1585
00:55:50,681 --> 00:55:51,748
to save money and unfortunately

1586
00:55:51,748 --> 00:55:53,149
we just haven't had the

1587
00:55:53,149 --> 00:55:54,818
opportunity to work closely

1588
00:55:54,818 --> 00:55:55,819
with the administration to find

1589
00:55:55,819 --> 00:55:57,687
those savings.

1590
00:55:57,687 --> 00:55:58,889
those are just several of my

1591
00:55:58,889 --> 00:56:00,691
questions, I'm sure as we move

1592
00:56:00,691 --> 00:56:02,660
into the budget cycle,

1593
00:56:02,660 --> 00:56:04,728
commissioner gonzalez and cohen

1594
00:56:04,728 --> 00:56:05,996
higgins, you are recognized.

1595
00:56:05,996 --> 00:56:07,996
>>commissioner gonzalez: thank

1596
00:56:08,131 --> 00:56:09,867
you MADAM Chair. If I could get

1597
00:56:09,867 --> 00:56:11,736
the directors to come up for

1598
00:56:11,736 --> 00:56:12,837
one second I think the chair

1599
00:56:12,837 --> 00:56:14,738
makes a great point.

1600
00:56:14,738 --> 00:56:17,207
So that's kind of the reason

1601
00:56:17,207 --> 00:56:18,408
why I started off by asking the

1602
00:56:18,408 --> 00:56:20,808
difference between that 3% and

1603
00:56:20,945 --> 00:56:22,880
7%, I thought it was 6%.

1604
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,830
That's why I asked for the

1605
00:56:26,830 --> 00:56:27,918
reduction because in reality,

1606
00:56:27,918 --> 00:56:30,255
we are not really reducing, we

1607
00:56:30,255 --> 00:56:32,655
are still growing by 3%.

1608
00:56:38,697 --> 00:56:39,831
To echo the sentiments of the

1609
00:56:39,831 --> 00:56:41,700
chair, comparing it to the

1610
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:42,901
state and this is one of the

1611
00:56:42,901 --> 00:56:44,200
reasons I've always been a fan

1612
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,200
of vicki lopez.

1613
00:56:48,974 --> 00:56:51,610
The governor for the entire

1614
00:56:51,610 --> 00:56:54,579
time he's been governor and

1615
00:56:54,579 --> 00:56:56,579
specifically state under

1616
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,488
speaker chris sprawls, speaker

1617
00:57:03,488 --> 00:57:05,357
paul renner, speaker danny

1618
00:57:05,357 --> 00:57:08,590
perez with the governor have

1619
00:57:08,590 --> 00:57:10,459
lowered every department and

1620
00:57:13,299 --> 00:57:15,233
the state budget by 3%.

1621
00:57:15,233 --> 00:57:16,702
So that's not like they could

1622
00:57:16,702 --> 00:57:16,902
have grown but they didn't

1623
00:57:16,902 --> 00:57:18,370
grow.

1624
00:57:18,370 --> 00:57:20,807
It's more like they did it at a

1625
00:57:20,807 --> 00:57:22,740
cheaper rate.

1626
00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:25,674
So this is a conversation that

1627
00:57:27,913 --> 00:57:29,883
I wanted to and my team is

1628
00:57:29,883 --> 00:57:31,384
working on scheduling meetings

1629
00:57:31,384 --> 00:57:32,619
with directors but now I'm

1630
00:57:32,619 --> 00:57:35,190
listening to this conversation

1631
00:57:35,788 --> 00:57:37,390
and hearing the chair and also

1632
00:57:37,390 --> 00:57:40,390
hearing the sentiments of my

1633
00:57:41,361 --> 00:57:42,429
colleague danielle cohen

1634
00:57:42,429 --> 00:57:44,829
higgins and natalie milian

1635
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:53,873
orbis is there a world off the

1636
00:57:53,873 --> 00:57:55,740
top of your head and we're not

1637
00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:56,976
going to hold you this right

1638
00:57:56,976 --> 00:57:58,879
now but is there a world where

1639
00:57:58,879 --> 00:58:00,470
you could see your departments

1640
00:58:00,470 --> 00:58:02,490
having no growth, 0% growth

1641
00:58:02,490 --> 00:58:03,884
which would mean that what you

1642
00:58:03,884 --> 00:58:04,150
had last year you could use

1643
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:06,150
this year?

1644
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,196
Do you think that is possible?

1645
00:58:16,196 --> 00:58:17,464
>> commissioner I think it's an

1646
00:58:17,464 --> 00:58:17,664
excellent question.

1647
00:58:17,664 --> 00:58:19,267
Ne of the

1648
00:58:19,267 --> 00:58:20,334
things I want to make sure it

1649
00:58:20,334 --> 00:58:22,203
is clear I think you all

1650
00:58:22,203 --> 00:58:23,738
understand which is the budget

1651
00:58:23,738 --> 00:58:27,338
we are working with had a 4%

1652
00:58:40,222 --> 00:58:40,589
cola so that was already

1653
00:58:40,589 --> 00:58:42,357
pre-negotiated.

1654
00:58:42,357 --> 00:58:44,359
We also have what are called

1655
00:58:44,359 --> 00:58:46,227
step increases that are in our

1656
00:58:46,227 --> 00:58:47,428
collective bargaining

1657
00:58:47,428 --> 00:58:49,231
agreements than average 5%.

1658
00:58:49,231 --> 00:58:51,232
So I have 4+5 is nine.

1659
00:58:51,232 --> 00:58:52,701
Those are two things that we

1660
00:58:52,701 --> 00:58:54,369
cannot take away out of the

1661
00:58:54,369 --> 00:58:56,237
budget so those are natural

1662
00:58:56,237 --> 00:58:56,471
drivers for the increase of the

1663
00:58:56,471 --> 00:58:58,471
budget.

1664
00:58:58,507 --> 00:58:59,441
Then you would add on top of

1665
00:58:59,441 --> 00:59:01,243
that the natural inflation,

1666
00:59:01,243 --> 00:59:04,243
toilet paper, gas, all the

1667
00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:11,287
different things we have to pay

1668
00:59:11,287 --> 00:59:13,255
for in order to run the county.

1669
00:59:13,255 --> 00:59:15,156
So when you just go baseline,

1670
00:59:15,156 --> 00:59:17,426
no enhancements, no new

1671
00:59:17,426 --> 00:59:18,427
programs, no new services, no

1672
00:59:18,427 --> 00:59:20,195
new employees are at about 89%

1673
00:59:20,195 --> 00:59:22,640
on average because it's an

1674
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,650
average, increase

1675
00:59:23,650 --> 00:59:25,650
year-over-year.

1676
00:59:32,175 --> 00:59:33,142
The omb projected that we could

1677
00:59:33,142 --> 00:59:35,770
come in as a 7%.

1678
00:59:35,770 --> 00:59:36,278
So we started off saying to the

1679
00:59:36,278 --> 00:59:38,147
departments even though your

1680
00:59:38,147 --> 00:59:39,282
natural growth is nine, can you

1681
00:59:39,282 --> 00:59:40,830
cut so that we get down to

1682
00:59:40,830 --> 00:59:42,830
seven?

1683
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:45,988
The things that you can and the

1684
00:59:45,988 --> 00:59:47,890
first place to go because much

1685
00:59:47,890 --> 00:59:49,270
of our budget is people is to

1686
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:50,600
look at the money that's

1687
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,280
budgeted for positions.

1688
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,330
So departments cut and reduced

1689
00:59:53,330 --> 00:59:55,932
the vacant positions and we

1690
00:59:55,932 --> 00:59:58,802
tried our best because it's a

1691
00:59:58,802 --> 01:00:01,802
values statement not to cut

1692
01:00:05,275 --> 01:00:06,576
filled positions unless we were

1693
01:00:06,576 --> 01:00:08,378
eliminating a program or

1694
01:00:08,378 --> 01:00:09,279
service that was commiserate

1695
01:00:09,279 --> 01:00:11,148
with that.

1696
01:00:11,148 --> 01:00:12,516
Once we finally got the tax

1697
01:00:12,516 --> 01:00:15,516
role in and the average

1698
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:17,220
reflected for the fund was 2%

1699
01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:20,220
growth, we knew we couldn't

1700
01:00:33,805 --> 01:00:35,706
grow by seven.

1701
01:00:35,706 --> 01:00:36,941
We need to be consistent with

1702
01:00:36,941 --> 01:00:38,876
what our revenues would reflect

1703
01:00:38,876 --> 01:00:40,812
so that apartments were then

1704
01:00:40,812 --> 01:00:41,980
asked to go back and cut more

1705
01:00:41,980 --> 01:00:42,847
to get it down to no more than

1706
01:00:42,847 --> 01:00:44,816
3% growth.

1707
01:00:44,816 --> 01:00:45,950
Remember the natural growth

1708
01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:47,918
looks much higher than that so

1709
01:00:47,918 --> 01:00:49,888
I appreciate that we are saying

1710
01:00:49,888 --> 01:00:51,823
we didn't save any money but

1711
01:00:51,823 --> 01:00:53,858
the departments didn't have to

1712
01:00:53,858 --> 01:00:55,693
do the heavy lifting of saying

1713
01:00:55,693 --> 01:00:56,894
what are we not going to do

1714
01:00:56,894 --> 01:00:58,964
anymore because the revenue is

1715
01:00:58,964 --> 01:01:00,899
not matching the natural growth

1716
01:01:00,899 --> 01:01:02,701
that was incorporated into the

1717
01:01:02,701 --> 01:01:04,703
budget without adding any

1718
01:01:04,703 --> 01:01:05,871
enhancements despite all the

1719
01:01:05,871 --> 01:01:07,772
enhancements that have been

1720
01:01:07,772 --> 01:01:08,390
requested over the course of

1721
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:10,390
the year.

1722
01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:12,911
So I actually really appreciate

1723
01:01:12,911 --> 01:01:13,812
CHAIRWOMAN Lopez challenge and

1724
01:01:13,812 --> 01:01:14,947
I am thrilled to have a

1725
01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:16,815
strategic partner not just with

1726
01:01:16,815 --> 01:01:18,717
the CHAIRWOMAN With this

1727
01:01:18,717 --> 01:01:19,918
committee on what we are going

1728
01:01:19,918 --> 01:01:21,787
to do to continue bending the

1729
01:01:21,787 --> 01:01:23,722
cost curve next year and to

1730
01:01:23,722 --> 01:01:26,592
actually look for the things we

1731
01:01:26,592 --> 01:01:28,460
need to eliminate or reduce so

1732
01:01:28,460 --> 01:01:30,463
that we are on a positive

1733
01:01:30,463 --> 01:01:31,697
trajectory given the fact that

1734
01:01:31,697 --> 01:01:32,531
revenues are down and inflation

1735
01:01:32,531 --> 01:01:34,531
is up.

1736
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,269
And so I want to make sure

1737
01:01:37,269 --> 01:01:39,406
everyone's clear that the

1738
01:01:39,406 --> 01:01:41,806
department directors were asked

1739
01:01:43,509 --> 01:01:47,709
not to get ahead of the mayor

1740
01:01:58,792 --> 01:02:00,794
and omb as we are literally

1741
01:02:00,794 --> 01:02:02,996
dotting the I's and crossing

1742
01:02:02,996 --> 01:02:03,864
the t's on her budget and we

1743
01:02:03,864 --> 01:02:05,798
are happy to come to you about

1744
01:02:05,798 --> 01:02:07,600
any department budgets you have

1745
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:08,768
concerns where you see

1746
01:02:08,768 --> 01:02:09,602
opportunity that we MAY have

1747
01:02:09,602 --> 01:02:10,803
missed.

1748
01:02:10,803 --> 01:02:12,605
This is why we are proposing

1749
01:02:12,605 --> 01:02:16,205
and we look forward to the

1750
01:02:18,577 --> 01:02:20,512
county commission saying did

1751
01:02:20,512 --> 01:02:21,747
you think about this, did you

1752
01:02:21,747 --> 01:02:23,715
consider this, I see something

1753
01:02:23,715 --> 01:02:25,717
you all MAY not have considered

1754
01:02:25,717 --> 01:02:26,985
or missed.

1755
01:02:26,985 --> 01:02:28,985
>>commissioner gonzalez: thank

1756
01:02:29,721 --> 01:02:31,756
you chief and I appreciate that

1757
01:02:31,756 --> 01:02:34,756
explanation and want to point

1758
01:02:38,950 --> 01:02:39,998
out I did meet with you and MR.

1759
01:02:39,998 --> 01:02:41,899
Baker and the mayor and I know

1760
01:02:41,899 --> 01:02:43,000
you guys have been working hard

1761
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,100
and I recognize you been

1762
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,903
working very hard.

1763
01:02:45,903 --> 01:02:47,103
But I guess I think the

1764
01:02:47,103 --> 01:02:49,500
hesitation that we are seeing

1765
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,107
from the board members up here,

1766
01:02:51,107 --> 01:02:53,507
this committee in particular

1767
01:03:00,550 --> 01:03:01,717
and other board members as well

1768
01:03:01,717 --> 01:03:03,586
is projection has always been

1769
01:03:03,586 --> 01:03:05,454
for growth and thank you for

1770
01:03:05,454 --> 01:03:06,688
explaining it so eloquently, I

1771
01:03:06,688 --> 01:03:08,524
understand where you're coming

1772
01:03:08,524 --> 01:03:10,459
from but the projection is

1773
01:03:10,459 --> 01:03:11,459
always growth rather than a

1774
01:03:11,459 --> 01:03:12,461
projection to save.

1775
01:03:12,461 --> 01:03:13,695
've heard

1776
01:03:13,695 --> 01:03:15,531
commissioner cohen higgins and

1777
01:03:15,531 --> 01:03:17,465
lopez say this many times and

1778
01:03:17,465 --> 01:03:19,433
because commissioner lopez

1779
01:03:19,433 --> 01:03:20,701
comes from the state perhaps it

1780
01:03:20,701 --> 01:03:23,701
would behoove this committee to

1781
01:03:23,971 --> 01:03:25,873
as the chief has stated after

1782
01:03:25,873 --> 01:03:27,808
the budget has been presented

1783
01:03:27,808 --> 01:03:29,709
perhaps it would behoove this

1784
01:03:29,709 --> 01:03:30,878
committee to have departments

1785
01:03:30,878 --> 01:03:32,412
come up and perhaps we could

1786
01:03:32,412 --> 01:03:35,412
take a look to help.

1787
01:03:36,749 --> 01:03:38,718
I want to recognize that from

1788
01:03:38,718 --> 01:03:40,587
the conversations we had not

1789
01:03:40,587 --> 01:03:41,954
only with the chief but with

1790
01:03:41,954 --> 01:03:45,554
mr. Baker that they have been

1791
01:03:51,930 --> 01:03:53,866
you know, working very hard.

1792
01:03:53,866 --> 01:03:58,370
But I think it would be a great

1793
01:03:58,370 --> 01:04:00,271
idea as I've heard commissioner

1794
01:04:00,271 --> 01:04:02,240
cohen higgins and lopez have in

1795
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,241
the past for us to take a shot

1796
01:04:03,241 --> 01:04:04,676
at it too.

1797
01:04:04,676 --> 01:04:05,309
And bring whatever cost can be

1798
01:04:05,309 --> 01:04:07,309
brought down down.

1799
01:04:07,378 --> 01:04:09,814
So that perhaps this commission

1800
01:04:09,814 --> 01:04:13,414
and this mayor can deliver for

1801
01:04:15,385 --> 01:04:18,985
the first time ever a reduction

1802
01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:22,592
in taxpayer savings for certain

1803
01:04:22,592 --> 01:04:24,594
departments and there are

1804
01:04:24,594 --> 01:04:24,894
departments that can have

1805
01:04:24,894 --> 01:04:26,894
reductions.

1806
01:04:28,631 --> 01:04:30,666
But maybe there are departments

1807
01:04:30,666 --> 01:04:34,266
that can grow by 1% instead of

1808
01:04:35,804 --> 01:04:37,706
3%, maybe some departments that

1809
01:04:37,706 --> 01:04:38,907
can lower some departments that

1810
01:04:38,907 --> 01:04:42,144
need the 4% or some that might

1811
01:04:42,144 --> 01:04:44,144
need the 7%.

1812
01:04:45,413 --> 01:04:48,316
Perhaps there is a world where

1813
01:04:48,316 --> 01:04:49,484
government doesn't continue to

1814
01:04:49,484 --> 01:04:52,484
grow and rather it shrinks

1815
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,620
every year because if we just

1816
01:05:00,294 --> 01:05:01,495
keep projecting for growth and

1817
01:05:01,495 --> 01:05:03,363
sometimes that's necessary and

1818
01:05:03,363 --> 01:05:05,532
I understand that but if we

1819
01:05:05,532 --> 01:05:07,400
keep projecting for growth and

1820
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,400
we are telling ourselves it's

1821
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:14,841
impossible to ever shrink when

1822
01:05:14,841 --> 01:05:16,642
perhaps we just roll up our

1823
01:05:16,642 --> 01:05:20,242
sleeves and get down to it.

1824
01:05:21,146 --> 01:05:22,314
Think this committee is ready

1825
01:05:22,314 --> 01:05:25,914
willing and able to do it,

1826
01:05:34,325 --> 01:05:36,194
thank you MADAM Chair.

1827
01:05:36,194 --> 01:05:38,529
>>chair: I will say before I

1828
01:05:38,529 --> 01:05:39,430
recognize commissioner cohen

1829
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:41,265
higgins that not only were we

1830
01:05:41,265 --> 01:05:42,399
able to save money at the

1831
01:05:42,399 --> 01:05:44,201
state, we were able to put

1832
01:05:44,201 --> 01:05:46,203
money in reserve which is

1833
01:05:46,203 --> 01:05:47,471
critically important and

1834
01:05:47,471 --> 01:05:49,273
currently as we face what could

1835
01:05:49,273 --> 01:05:50,440
be a severe reduction of

1836
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,509
revenue at the property tax

1837
01:05:52,509 --> 01:05:53,443
reform amendment we should

1838
01:05:53,443 --> 01:05:55,411
still be thinking about saving

1839
01:05:55,411 --> 01:05:57,213
for that rainy day because it

1840
01:05:57,213 --> 01:05:58,381
is here, you're absolutely

1841
01:05:58,381 --> 01:06:00,381
right, commissioner gonzalez,

1842
01:06:00,382 --> 01:06:02,351
it's raining and it's going to

1843
01:06:02,351 --> 01:06:04,720
start storming and we need to

1844
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,221
be fiscally responsible and I

1845
01:06:06,221 --> 01:06:07,289
know that I speak for all the

1846
01:06:07,289 --> 01:06:08,490
members of this committee, we

1847
01:06:08,490 --> 01:06:10,458
are ready and willing to roll

1848
01:06:10,458 --> 01:06:12,260
up our sleeves and do the work

1849
01:06:12,260 --> 01:06:14,960
as soon as the budget has been

1850
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,970
published, you are recognized.

1851
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:17,365
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1852
01:06:17,365 --> 01:06:20,965
thank you MADAM Chair. And this

1853
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:24,372
is an important conversation we

1854
01:06:24,372 --> 01:06:26,340
are having at this committee

1855
01:06:26,340 --> 01:06:28,175
and frankly won the german

1856
01:06:28,175 --> 01:06:29,577
intended us for us to have at

1857
01:06:29,577 --> 01:06:31,211
the committee level and I think

1858
01:06:31,211 --> 01:06:32,446
that there needs to be a

1859
01:06:32,446 --> 01:06:34,846
recognition that things might

1860
01:06:37,451 --> 01:06:38,652
need to be done differently in

1861
01:06:38,652 --> 01:06:40,520
miami-dade county as a result

1862
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,621
of the fiscal climate we are

1863
01:06:42,621 --> 01:06:44,590
forced to face as a reality.

1864
01:06:44,590 --> 01:06:46,492
We are accustomed absent 2008

1865
01:06:46,492 --> 01:06:47,693
and 2009 that real estate clash

1866
01:06:47,693 --> 01:06:50,693
are accustomed to being flush

1867
01:06:52,398 --> 01:06:52,598
with cash until those days are

1868
01:06:52,598 --> 01:06:54,598
over.

1869
01:07:00,538 --> 01:07:02,440
I frankly strongly believe that

1870
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,442
I don't know this is a

1871
01:07:04,442 --> 01:07:06,210
philosophical conversation but

1872
01:07:06,210 --> 01:07:07,445
conversations where we are

1873
01:07:07,445 --> 01:07:09,445
asking questions that

1874
01:07:09,648 --> 01:07:10,582
essentially boil down to is it

1875
01:07:10,582 --> 01:07:12,584
responsible for us to keep

1876
01:07:12,584 --> 01:07:12,784
doing things the way we always

1877
01:07:12,784 --> 01:07:14,586
have?

1878
01:07:14,586 --> 01:07:18,786
I think the answer to that is

1879
01:07:27,799 --> 01:07:28,935
clearly no and the budget

1880
01:07:28,935 --> 01:07:30,903
dashboard which was presented

1881
01:07:30,903 --> 01:07:32,771
to this committee a few months

1882
01:07:32,771 --> 01:07:34,600
ago is my understanding it is

1883
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,908
ready, I plan to use that as a

1884
01:07:35,908 --> 01:07:37,910
tool not only for this budget

1885
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:39,779
cycle but future budget cycles

1886
01:07:39,779 --> 01:07:41,780
so when we have presentations

1887
01:07:41,780 --> 01:07:42,949
we will have an electronic

1888
01:07:42,949 --> 01:07:44,917
reflection in front of us in

1889
01:07:44,917 --> 01:07:46,785
addition to whatever is placed

1890
01:07:46,785 --> 01:07:48,153
in front of us on a powerpoint

1891
01:07:48,153 --> 01:07:49,789
presentation with actual

1892
01:07:49,789 --> 01:07:51,570
numbers that are, that the

1893
01:07:51,570 --> 01:07:52,792
departments are working with us

1894
01:07:52,792 --> 01:07:53,960
as opposed to stagnant

1895
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,795
snapshots in time by way of

1896
01:07:55,795 --> 01:07:59,995
memos but I wanted to add to

1897
01:08:07,673 --> 01:08:09,676
our chief, I think that we and

1898
01:08:09,676 --> 01:08:11,545
I look forward to working with

1899
01:08:11,545 --> 01:08:12,779
my colleagues because the

1900
01:08:12,779 --> 01:08:14,681
sentiment is the same and I

1901
01:08:14,681 --> 01:08:15,816
don't think the request is an

1902
01:08:15,816 --> 01:08:17,717
unreasonable one and we will

1903
01:08:17,717 --> 01:08:19,787
see what happens come NOVEMBER

1904
01:08:19,787 --> 01:08:21,655
and what the voters ultimately

1905
01:08:21,655 --> 01:08:23,623
decide to do and on monday when

1906
01:08:23,623 --> 01:08:24,791
we have a budget presentation

1907
01:08:24,791 --> 01:08:26,560
from our budget chief I asked

1908
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,562
him and I said is there

1909
01:08:28,562 --> 01:08:30,564
anything in this budget that

1910
01:08:30,564 --> 01:08:31,698
anticipates or contemplates a

1911
01:08:31,698 --> 01:08:33,567
potential yes vote on that

1912
01:08:33,567 --> 01:08:33,734
referendum and the answer was

1913
01:08:33,734 --> 01:08:34,802
no.

1914
01:08:34,802 --> 01:08:36,703
So I get that were going to

1915
01:08:36,703 --> 01:08:40,303
work to try and get through

1916
01:08:44,978 --> 01:08:46,130
this year's budget.

1917
01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:48,810
My concern is beyond.

1918
01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:49,884
My concern is as my colleagues

1919
01:08:49,884 --> 01:08:51,386
said are we planning for a

1920
01:08:51,386 --> 01:08:52,920
rainy day that we believe is

1921
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,388
likely to come that's a few

1922
01:08:54,388 --> 01:08:55,956
months down the road and the

1923
01:08:55,956 --> 01:08:57,758
answer is no and what does that

1924
01:08:57,758 --> 01:08:59,270
mean for us financially?

1925
01:08:59,270 --> 01:09:00,995
I also think it is important

1926
01:09:00,995 --> 01:09:02,964
chief carla denise when we talk

1927
01:09:02,964 --> 01:09:04,866
about the natural growth in our

1928
01:09:04,866 --> 01:09:06,868
budget at 9%, I don't know that

1929
01:09:06,868 --> 01:09:08,200
that's necessarily fair to call

1930
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,500
natural growth only because

1931
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:12,730
frankly it's contracted growth.

1932
01:09:12,730 --> 01:09:13,875
It's growth we have implemented

1933
01:09:13,875 --> 01:09:16,275
through policies we passed

1934
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:23,385
saying we agreed 2: at three,

1935
01:09:23,385 --> 01:09:26,154
for which we are contracted to

1936
01:09:26,154 --> 01:09:27,355
do but I don't know if that's

1937
01:09:27,355 --> 01:09:28,691
considered natural growth and I

1938
01:09:28,691 --> 01:09:30,292
don't know if we will reconcile

1939
01:09:30,292 --> 01:09:32,161
that now as we plan the budget

1940
01:09:32,161 --> 01:09:33,395
so to those paying attention I

1941
01:09:33,395 --> 01:09:34,396
think that the chickens are

1942
01:09:34,396 --> 01:09:36,331
coming home to roost.

1943
01:09:36,331 --> 01:09:40,531
I think the way we budget in

1944
01:09:41,604 --> 01:09:43,472
this county needs to be studied

1945
01:09:43,472 --> 01:09:44,539
greatly and I think savings is

1946
01:09:44,539 --> 01:09:46,939
not an unrealistic ask

1947
01:09:47,900 --> 01:09:49,120
considering the size of our

1948
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,213
budget in miami dade county,

1949
01:09:50,213 --> 01:09:52,613
considering the amount of

1950
01:09:54,283 --> 01:09:56,185
dollars that we move.

1951
01:09:56,185 --> 01:09:57,386
So I would like for us to work

1952
01:09:57,386 --> 01:10:00,986
towards that end and as you

1953
01:10:03,526 --> 01:10:04,694
know chief I worked in the

1954
01:10:04,694 --> 01:10:06,529
legislation in the past to

1955
01:10:06,529 --> 01:10:07,697
bring in outside consultants

1956
01:10:07,697 --> 01:10:10,000
and that couldn't come to

1957
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:10,767
fruition for a number of

1958
01:10:10,767 --> 01:10:12,669
reasons so here we sit tackling

1959
01:10:12,669 --> 01:10:14,638
a difficult budget year we

1960
01:10:14,638 --> 01:10:15,839
anticipate will continue to get

1961
01:10:15,839 --> 01:10:19,439
more difficult, all that to say

1962
01:10:20,878 --> 01:10:21,945
in the end when the budget

1963
01:10:21,945 --> 01:10:23,790
passes everybody has

1964
01:10:23,790 --> 01:10:25,150
conversations about whose

1965
01:10:25,150 --> 01:10:26,883
budget is it, is it the mayor's

1966
01:10:26,883 --> 01:10:29,883
budget or our budget, whose

1967
01:10:30,721 --> 01:10:32,656
budget is it?

1968
01:10:32,656 --> 01:10:33,857
If we decide it's our budget or

1969
01:10:33,857 --> 01:10:35,726
all our budgets we have to put

1970
01:10:35,726 --> 01:10:37,427
in the work along with you the

1971
01:10:37,427 --> 01:10:39,430
administration to do these deep

1972
01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:41,432
dives and I am saying and I

1973
01:10:41,432 --> 01:10:42,666
believe my colleagues has made

1974
01:10:42,666 --> 01:10:43,434
it clear we all willing to do

1975
01:10:43,434 --> 01:10:45,202
that.

1976
01:10:45,202 --> 01:10:46,437
Think we have to do

1977
01:10:46,437 --> 01:10:47,337
that in the time for that is

1978
01:10:47,337 --> 01:10:48,338
now.

1979
01:10:48,338 --> 01:10:50,275
So whether it's special

1980
01:10:50,275 --> 01:10:52,209
committee hearings, whether it

1981
01:10:52,209 --> 01:10:55,209
is special sessions, I don't

1982
01:11:03,755 --> 01:11:04,622
necessarily want 2 budget

1983
01:11:04,622 --> 01:11:07,220
hearings that go 12 hours.

1984
01:11:07,525 --> 01:11:08,760
I don't want that, my colleague

1985
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,662
commissioner gonzalez was

1986
01:11:10,662 --> 01:11:10,895
active a couple budget cycles

1987
01:11:10,895 --> 01:11:12,697
ago.

1988
01:11:12,697 --> 01:11:13,698
He was the only voice covering

1989
01:11:13,698 --> 01:11:15,633
with questions.

1990
01:11:15,633 --> 01:11:17,501
I'm not sure, I think we should

1991
01:11:17,501 --> 01:11:19,538
do it in either special

1992
01:11:19,538 --> 01:11:20,705
meetings or special committees,

1993
01:11:20,705 --> 01:11:23,175
whatever the proper forum is

1994
01:11:23,175 --> 01:11:24,742
what I along with my colleagues

1995
01:11:24,742 --> 01:11:26,611
believe there is opportunity

1996
01:11:26,611 --> 01:11:28,513
for us to do better with the

1997
01:11:28,513 --> 01:11:29,582
numbers in our budget without

1998
01:11:29,582 --> 01:11:31,516
necessarily laying off

1999
01:11:31,516 --> 01:11:33,519
thousands of people and getting

2000
01:11:33,519 --> 01:11:34,252
any kind of dramatic sweeping

2001
01:11:34,252 --> 01:11:36,252
consequential changes.

2002
01:11:36,254 --> 01:11:38,256
There is so much in our budget

2003
01:11:38,256 --> 01:11:40,225
in miami-dade county that I

2004
01:11:40,225 --> 01:11:42,128
believe if we were to dive down

2005
01:11:42,128 --> 01:11:43,295
we could accomplish a budget

2006
01:11:43,295 --> 01:11:45,130
where where we were yielding

2007
01:11:45,130 --> 01:11:48,730
reserves and say yes, we are

2008
01:11:53,472 --> 01:11:55,407
saving for a rainy day we had

2009
01:11:55,407 --> 01:11:57,276
our budget is extremely healthy

2010
01:11:57,276 --> 01:11:59,412
even though we are in

2011
01:11:59,412 --> 01:12:00,513
challenging economic times and

2012
01:12:00,513 --> 01:12:02,482
I look forward to working with

2013
01:12:02,482 --> 01:12:04,450
my colleagues and I don't want

2014
01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:06,385
this to be accepted as words on

2015
01:12:06,385 --> 01:12:08,387
a microphone or going to go

2016
01:12:08,387 --> 01:12:10,290
along our very way no one will

2017
01:12:10,290 --> 01:12:11,291
remember the conversation.

2018
01:12:11,291 --> 01:12:12,892
Let's do that work.

2019
01:12:12,892 --> 01:12:13,493
Hank you

2020
01:12:13,493 --> 01:12:15,461
MADAM Chair.

2021
01:12:15,461 --> 01:12:17,396
>> asked the chair to give us

2022
01:12:17,396 --> 01:12:18,632
the authority to call a special

2023
01:12:18,632 --> 01:12:20,400
meeting to drill down on each

2024
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,369
and every one of the

2025
01:12:22,369 --> 01:12:24,369
departments budgets, vice

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01:12:33,446 --> 01:12:35,415
CHAIRMAN Your recognized.

2027
01:12:35,415 --> 01:12:37,417
>> I wanted to put further

2028
01:12:37,417 --> 01:12:38,619
questions and statements on the

2029
01:12:38,619 --> 01:12:40,421
record, let me preface by

2030
01:12:40,421 --> 01:12:42,423
saying I love our county

2031
01:12:42,423 --> 01:12:44,458
employees, I've been a county

2032
01:12:44,458 --> 01:12:45,625
employee for 20 years there

2033
01:12:45,625 --> 01:12:47,527
probably no one here and

2034
01:12:47,527 --> 01:12:49,464
understand better what it is to

2035
01:12:49,464 --> 01:12:51,465
be a county employee and how

2036
01:12:51,465 --> 01:12:55,650
they are the heartbeat of our

2037
01:12:57,504 --> 01:12:58,706
community yet I would like a

2038
01:12:58,706 --> 01:13:00,508
breakdown as we entered the

2039
01:13:00,508 --> 01:13:02,509
budget process of what

2040
01:13:02,509 --> 01:13:02,777
percentage of our employees are

2041
01:13:02,777 --> 01:13:04,645
unionized.

2042
01:13:04,645 --> 01:13:06,647
And not specifically airport

2043
01:13:06,647 --> 01:13:08,583
seaport, jackson, I'm talking

2044
01:13:08,583 --> 01:13:09,684
about the ones that impact our

2045
01:13:09,684 --> 01:13:11,586
general fund the most.

2046
01:13:11,586 --> 01:13:11,786
I think it's important to see

2047
01:13:11,786 --> 01:13:13,786
that.

2048
01:13:13,821 --> 01:13:16,524
I understand this year we are

2049
01:13:16,524 --> 01:13:17,758
not opening our bargaining

2050
01:13:17,758 --> 01:13:19,528
contracts and I think did you

2051
01:13:19,528 --> 01:13:20,662
want to say something?

2052
01:13:20,662 --> 01:13:22,531
, I think it's a mistake.

2053
01:13:22,531 --> 01:13:23,732
Sometimes we need to do hard

2054
01:13:23,732 --> 01:13:25,634
things and letting this moment

2055
01:13:25,634 --> 01:13:27,535
pass by agreeing with what they

2056
01:13:27,535 --> 01:13:27,802
have MAY not be the best

2057
01:13:27,802 --> 01:13:29,738
decision.

2058
01:13:29,738 --> 01:13:31,706
>> want to clarify what we are

2059
01:13:31,706 --> 01:13:33,608
doing with the union contracts.

2060
01:13:33,608 --> 01:13:35,544
>> we've met with other

2061
01:13:35,544 --> 01:13:38,544
bargaining units and all the

2062
01:13:39,982 --> 01:13:42,170
unions agree to zero this year,

2063
01:13:42,170 --> 01:13:44,860
all the contracts are signed

2064
01:13:44,860 --> 01:13:45,120
and we did it in anticipation

2065
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,888
of the election in NOVEMBER and

2066
01:13:46,888 --> 01:13:48,123
they have a reopening in

2067
01:13:48,123 --> 01:13:52,323
JANUARY so we will have to make

2068
01:13:55,464 --> 01:13:56,632
hard decisions in JANUARY.

2069
01:13:56,632 --> 01:13:58,635
>>chair: one about demerits.

2070
01:13:58,635 --> 01:14:00,536
>> demerits are baked into the

2071
01:14:00,536 --> 01:14:02,936
contract when negotiations are

2072
01:14:03,305 --> 01:14:03,505
reopened we will look at all

2073
01:14:03,505 --> 01:14:04,473
those.

2074
01:14:04,473 --> 01:14:05,707
>>chair: I would hate for

2075
01:14:05,707 --> 01:14:07,576
employees to be impacted in the

2076
01:14:07,576 --> 01:14:09,746
end because we don't want to

2077
01:14:09,746 --> 01:14:11,447
make a tough decision today

2078
01:14:11,447 --> 01:14:13,449
that that's what I want to

2079
01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:14,684
avoid and I've asked you in our

2080
01:14:14,684 --> 01:14:16,686
meetings we had prior to this

2081
01:14:16,686 --> 01:14:17,653
for the budget specifically

2082
01:14:17,653 --> 01:14:19,653
about the unions.

2083
01:14:20,590 --> 01:14:22,726
I think it's important to get

2084
01:14:22,726 --> 01:14:24,627
that straightened out before we

2085
01:14:24,627 --> 01:14:26,563
have to impact them in the end.

2086
01:14:26,563 --> 01:14:28,565
What was the cola last year, it

2087
01:14:28,565 --> 01:14:28,832
was approved through our

2088
01:14:28,832 --> 01:14:30,734
employees.

2089
01:14:30,734 --> 01:14:32,536
>> the: that went into effect

2090
01:14:32,536 --> 01:14:34,536
was a 4% increase.

2091
01:14:34,537 --> 01:14:36,172
>>chair: and with the: this

2092
01:14:36,172 --> 01:14:38,141
year.

2093
01:14:38,141 --> 01:14:42,341
>> we did not budget a cola for

2094
01:14:45,716 --> 01:14:45,949
APRIL 27 so that such chief

2095
01:14:45,949 --> 01:14:47,717
palmer.

2096
01:14:47,717 --> 01:14:47,821
>> that means you are flat.

2097
01:14:47,821 --> 01:14:48,953
O

2098
01:14:48,953 --> 01:14:51,722
you left it at four you have

2099
01:14:51,722 --> 01:14:54,122
the option of doing 01234.

2100
01:14:54,291 --> 01:14:56,160
>> through the chair what we

2101
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,730
did was we closed the contract

2102
01:14:58,730 --> 01:15:00,300
with no financial increases or

2103
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,300
impact and we agreed to do a

2104
01:15:02,300 --> 01:15:03,935
real dinner after the election

2105
01:15:03,935 --> 01:15:07,204
in NOVEMBER because we were not

2106
01:15:07,204 --> 01:15:09,107
wanting to commit to flat.

2107
01:15:09,107 --> 01:15:11,709
There is a scenario where we

2108
01:15:11,709 --> 01:15:12,430
MAY need to decrease the

2109
01:15:12,430 --> 01:15:14,430
compensation.

2110
01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:28,126
So I say 001 we are committing

2111
01:15:28,126 --> 01:15:29,995
to something that right now we

2112
01:15:29,995 --> 01:15:31,863
don't have confidence that we

2113
01:15:31,863 --> 01:15:33,310
would be able to sustain.

2114
01:15:33,310 --> 01:15:34,399
If the property tax proposal

2115
01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:36,268
goes into effect.

2116
01:15:36,268 --> 01:15:37,535
>>chair: I need for

2117
01:15:37,535 --> 01:15:39,535
nonunionized employees, what

2118
01:15:48,881 --> 01:15:49,882
was the cola, were you speaking

2119
01:15:49,882 --> 01:15:51,882
about nonunionized?

2120
01:15:51,884 --> 01:15:53,886
>> both, we applied the same

2121
01:15:53,886 --> 01:15:54,152
cost-of-living increase to all

2122
01:15:54,152 --> 01:15:55,954
employees.

2123
01:15:55,954 --> 01:15:57,222
We don't distinguish for

2124
01:15:57,222 --> 01:15:57,890
nonbargaining versus

2125
01:15:57,890 --> 01:15:59,890
bargaining.

2126
01:15:59,892 --> 01:16:02,892
>>chair: just like my colleague

2127
01:16:04,697 --> 01:16:05,865
commissioner cohen higgins said

2128
01:16:05,865 --> 01:16:07,699
we need to look at natural

2129
01:16:07,699 --> 01:16:08,702
growth is and contemplate if

2130
01:16:08,702 --> 01:16:10,702
it's necessary.

2131
01:16:17,376 --> 01:16:19,376
>>.

2132
01:16:19,379 --> 01:16:19,613
>> natural implies there was no

2133
01:16:19,613 --> 01:16:21,414
control.

2134
01:16:21,414 --> 01:16:23,349
The commissioner said it

2135
01:16:23,349 --> 01:16:25,318
eloquently, those were

2136
01:16:25,318 --> 01:16:26,552
decisions made three years ago.

2137
01:16:26,552 --> 01:16:28,421
So if I have the math right we

2138
01:16:28,421 --> 01:16:30,157
did a three 34, that was put

2139
01:16:30,157 --> 01:16:33,157
into place three years ago.

2140
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,795
So again, the policy decision

2141
01:16:35,795 --> 01:16:37,430
was made prior to us

2142
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:39,430
understanding and appreciating

2143
01:16:55,582 --> 01:16:56,783
today's circumstances.

2144
01:16:56,783 --> 01:16:58,752
>>chair: don't want to harp on

2145
01:16:58,752 --> 01:17:00,721
this, we've all said it but we

2146
01:17:00,721 --> 01:17:02,623
need to contemplate the passage

2147
01:17:02,623 --> 01:17:02,923
of expanded homestead

2148
01:17:02,923 --> 01:17:04,692
exemptions.

2149
01:17:04,692 --> 01:17:04,859
We need to start doing that

2150
01:17:04,859 --> 01:17:06,793
now.

2151
01:17:06,793 --> 01:17:08,696
We shouldn't wait until next

2152
01:17:08,696 --> 01:17:10,598
budget season to plug in those

2153
01:17:10,598 --> 01:17:11,666
reductions that are more than

2154
01:17:11,666 --> 01:17:13,668
likely coming our way.

2155
01:17:13,668 --> 01:17:14,835
It's a reality and we need to

2156
01:17:14,835 --> 01:17:16,604
take that into consideration.

2157
01:17:16,604 --> 01:17:18,604
So thank you.

2158
01:17:18,773 --> 01:17:20,609
>>chair: commissioner gonzalez

2159
01:17:20,609 --> 01:17:22,609
you are recognized.

2160
01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:24,579
>>chair: to piggyback off of

2161
01:17:24,579 --> 01:17:26,614
what commissioner organist said

2162
01:17:26,614 --> 01:17:27,782
because even in NOVEMBER the

2163
01:17:27,782 --> 01:17:29,782
homestead exemption expansion

2164
01:17:31,352 --> 01:17:34,352
doesn't happen, most of the

2165
01:17:34,656 --> 01:17:36,656
candidates for governor,

2166
01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:40,580
especially the front runner are

2167
01:17:41,396 --> 01:17:43,396
already contemplating

2168
01:17:43,398 --> 01:17:45,398
regardless reduction in

2169
01:17:46,167 --> 01:17:47,335
homestead exemptions but even

2170
01:17:47,335 --> 01:17:49,671
if a homestead exemption

2171
01:17:49,671 --> 01:17:52,710
reduction didn't happen, we

2172
01:17:53,342 --> 01:17:56,942
have a chance to make history.

2173
01:17:58,781 --> 01:18:00,816
And actually reduce government

2174
01:18:00,816 --> 01:18:03,816
in miami-dade county because if

2175
01:18:04,253 --> 01:18:07,253
we keep projecting growth it's

2176
01:18:07,389 --> 01:18:10,389
almost like your budgeting for

2177
01:18:12,495 --> 01:18:14,964
next year expecting that you're

2178
01:18:14,964 --> 01:18:17,964
going to win the lottery.

2179
01:18:19,135 --> 01:18:20,870
Or expecting you're going to

2180
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:22,870
get that promotion.

2181
01:18:25,241 --> 01:18:27,243
But then you don't.

2182
01:18:27,243 --> 01:18:28,477
And you probably shouldn't have

2183
01:18:28,477 --> 01:18:30,477
gone to europe.

2184
01:18:35,418 --> 01:18:37,453
And by the way I say this not

2185
01:18:37,453 --> 01:18:39,756
in criticism, I know you folks

2186
01:18:39,756 --> 01:18:42,756
have been doing a tremendous

2187
01:18:44,394 --> 01:18:44,728
job at trying to match the

2188
01:18:44,728 --> 01:18:46,363
circumstances.

2189
01:18:46,363 --> 01:18:48,933
but there again is the

2190
01:18:48,933 --> 01:18:51,333
suggestion especially with the

2191
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:56,470
tone of this committee and of

2192
01:18:57,730 --> 01:18:59,476
the chair that we can

2193
01:18:59,476 --> 01:19:01,412
definitely help.

2194
01:19:01,412 --> 01:19:05,120
We can definitely help and I

2195
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:10,588
look forward to the coming

2196
01:19:10,588 --> 01:19:12,556
weeks and even into AUGUST I

2197
01:19:12,556 --> 01:19:14,425
look forward to working on this

2198
01:19:14,425 --> 01:19:15,659
with the administration and

2199
01:19:15,659 --> 01:19:19,859
figuring out a way how maybe we

2200
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:28,772
can make history this year.

2201
01:19:28,772 --> 01:19:30,974
>>chair: thank you for that

2202
01:19:30,974 --> 01:19:32,842
comment commissioner gonzalez,

2203
01:19:32,842 --> 01:19:33,910
for all almost we are on the

2204
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:35,778
ground talking to our

2205
01:19:35,778 --> 01:19:37,246
constituents and their

2206
01:19:37,246 --> 01:19:39,646
tightening their belts and

2207
01:19:40,783 --> 01:19:41,984
there is no reason they should

2208
01:19:41,984 --> 01:19:43,919
be alone, we should be leading

2209
01:19:43,919 --> 01:19:45,887
the charge and I truly believe

2210
01:19:45,887 --> 01:19:48,423
and I'm grateful we can work

2211
01:19:48,423 --> 01:19:49,958
with the administration.

2212
01:19:49,958 --> 01:19:51,260
There should be a very close

2213
01:19:51,260 --> 01:19:52,793
relationship with us trying to

2214
01:19:52,793 --> 01:19:54,795
figure out where could we

2215
01:19:54,795 --> 01:19:55,996
suggest and recommend other

2216
01:19:55,996 --> 01:19:57,999
savings and I think the work of

2217
01:19:57,999 --> 01:19:59,330
this committee will absolutely

2218
01:19:59,330 --> 01:20:00,968
help us do just that.

2219
01:20:00,968 --> 01:20:02,803
Just like we do in the state we

2220
01:20:02,803 --> 01:20:03,938
dig deeply into the details of

2221
01:20:03,938 --> 01:20:05,938
every department's budget.

2222
01:20:06,506 --> 01:20:07,574
We can do it here especially

2223
01:20:07,574 --> 01:20:09,476
since I know I have the

2224
01:20:09,476 --> 01:20:09,843
commitment of my colleagues on

2225
01:20:09,843 --> 01:20:11,843
this committee.

2226
01:20:12,178 --> 01:20:13,379
So I'm looking forward to a

2227
01:20:13,379 --> 01:20:15,281
vibrant discussion on all of

2228
01:20:15,281 --> 01:20:18,281
this looking forward to being

2229
01:20:25,190 --> 01:20:26,425
able to tell the taxpayers of

2230
01:20:26,425 --> 01:20:28,293
miami dade county that we did

2231
01:20:28,293 --> 01:20:30,195
our job ended did it will and

2232
01:20:30,195 --> 01:20:32,230
the outcome was positive so if

2233
01:20:32,230 --> 01:20:33,398
there is no other items I would

2234
01:20:33,398 --> 01:20:36,398
entertain a motion to adjourn.