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00:27:27,848 av650(Cc1) #2114 550 00:27:28,851 --> 00:27:30,851 av650(Cc1) #2114 551 00:27:31,853 --> 00:27:33,853 av650(Cc1) #2114 552 00:27:34,857 --> 00:27:36,857 av650(Cc1) #2114 553 00:27:37,861 --> 00:27:39,861 av650(Cc1) #2114 554 00:27:40,863 --> 00:27:42,863 av650(Cc1) #2114 555 00:27:43,866 --> 00:27:45,866 av650(Cc1) #2114 556 00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:48,870 av650(Cc1) #2114 557 00:27:49,873 --> 00:27:51,873 av650(Cc1) #2114 558 00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:54,875 av650(Cc1) #2114 559 00:27:55,879 --> 00:27:57,879 av650(Cc1) #2114 560 00:27:58,882 --> 00:28:00,882 av650(Cc1) #2114 561 00:28:01,885 --> 00:28:03,885 av650(Cc1) #2114 562 00:28:04,888 --> 00:28:06,888 av650(Cc1) #2114 563 00:28:07,891 --> 00:28:09,891 av650(Cc1) #2114 564 00:28:10,894 --> 00:28:12,894 av650(Cc1) #2114 565 00:28:13,897 --> 00:28:15,897 av650(Cc1) #2114 566 00:28:16,901 --> 00:28:18,901 av650(Cc1) #2114 567 00:28:19,904 --> 00:28:21,904 av650(Cc1) #2114 568 00:28:22,906 --> 00:28:24,906 av650(Cc1) #2114 569 00:28:25,910 --> 00:28:27,910 av650(Cc1) #2114 570 00:28:28,913 --> 00:28:30,913 av650(Cc1) #2114 571 00:28:31,916 --> 00:28:33,916 av650(Cc1) #2114 572 00:28:34,918 --> 00:28:36,918 av650(Cc1) #2114 573 00:28:37,922 --> 00:28:39,922 av650(Cc1) #2114 574 00:28:40,891 --> 00:28:42,891 av650(Cc1) #2114 575 00:28:43,894 --> 00:28:45,894 av650(Cc1) #2114 576 00:28:46,898 --> 00:28:48,898 av650(Cc1) #2114 577 00:28:49,901 --> 00:28:51,901 av650(Cc1) #2114 578 00:28:52,904 --> 00:28:54,904 av650(Cc1) #2114 579 00:28:55,907 --> 00:28:57,907 av650(Cc1) #2114 580 00:28:58,910 --> 00:29:00,910 av650(Cc1) #2114 581 00:29:01,913 --> 00:29:03,348 av650(Cc1) #2114 582 00:29:03,348 --> 00:29:05,348 av650(Cc1) #2114 583 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:20,950 >> 584 00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:04,334 >> good, good. 585 00:47:04,334 --> 00:47:05,100 Well, this is the 586 00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,838 presentation portion of 587 00:47:06,838 --> 00:47:08,838 the agenda. 588 00:47:09,607 --> 00:47:12,700 I am commissioner oliver 589 00:47:13,310 --> 00:47:13,577 gilbert, our CHAIRMAN Is 590 00:47:13,577 --> 00:47:15,577 rodriguez. 591 00:47:19,384 --> 00:47:19,784 Mayor levine cava is on 592 00:47:19,784 --> 00:47:20,718 her way down. 593 00:47:20,718 --> 00:47:21,185 What we do in these 594 00:47:21,185 --> 00:47:22,186 presentations as we 595 00:47:22,186 --> 00:47:24,186 recognize extraordinary 596 00:47:26,358 --> 00:47:26,958 people, extraordinary 597 00:47:26,958 --> 00:47:27,559 organizations who have 598 00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:27,959 done things that go above 599 00:47:27,959 --> 00:47:28,793 and beyond. 600 00:47:28,793 --> 00:47:29,327 Today, we have some 601 00:47:29,327 --> 00:47:31,327 presentations. 602 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:32,730 First, I give the 603 00:47:32,730 --> 00:47:34,665 microphone to your 604 00:47:34,665 --> 00:47:37,665 CHAIRMAN, you all give him 605 00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:42,407 applause, anthony 606 00:47:42,407 --> 00:47:44,407 rodriguez. 607 00:47:44,576 --> 00:47:46,576 [Dog barking] 608 00:47:47,512 --> 00:47:48,480 >> dog barking for you. 609 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,480 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 610 00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:52,150 america, powerful read. 611 00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:52,384 Good morning, good 612 00:47:52,384 --> 00:47:53,852 morning. 613 00:47:53,852 --> 00:47:54,286 We got all the puppies. 614 00:47:54,286 --> 00:47:56,286 I love it. 615 00:47:57,289 --> 00:47:58,124 I should've brought my 616 00:47:58,124 --> 00:47:58,690 daughter to work with me 617 00:47:58,690 --> 00:47:59,692 today if I would've known 618 00:47:59,692 --> 00:48:02,920 you all would've brought 619 00:48:02,961 --> 00:48:03,562 the dogs. 620 00:48:03,562 --> 00:48:04,429 I probably didn't know 621 00:48:04,429 --> 00:48:07,429 that and I still would 622 00:48:10,769 --> 00:48:11,570 have bring her. 623 00:48:11,570 --> 00:48:12,404 We're not going to start, 624 00:48:12,404 --> 00:48:13,305 we are going to start with 625 00:48:13,305 --> 00:48:15,140 some very important folks 626 00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:16,109 that are here here today. 627 00:48:16,109 --> 00:48:16,843 We have this morning some 628 00:48:16,843 --> 00:48:18,843 very distinguished guests 629 00:48:24,683 --> 00:48:25,518 and members of the 630 00:48:25,518 --> 00:48:25,718 consulate court of canada, 631 00:48:25,718 --> 00:48:27,220 right? 632 00:48:27,220 --> 00:48:29,620 We have the counsel 633 00:48:30,623 --> 00:48:31,157 general of canada, the 634 00:48:31,157 --> 00:48:33,157 honorable sylvia 635 00:48:38,197 --> 00:48:38,565 cesaratto. Cersaratto 636 00:48:38,565 --> 00:48:39,266 more or less. 637 00:48:39,266 --> 00:48:39,566 I'll let you correct me in 638 00:48:39,566 --> 00:48:40,300 a minute. 639 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:41,134 And MISS Shannon 640 00:48:41,134 --> 00:48:44,134 eisenhut. I think I said 641 00:48:44,737 --> 00:48:45,606 thatt okay. 642 00:48:45,606 --> 00:48:46,240 The us state department 643 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:48,308 regional director for the 644 00:48:48,308 --> 00:48:48,575 office of foreign 645 00:48:48,575 --> 00:48:50,575 missions. 646 00:48:54,681 --> 00:48:55,716 So it is my privilege to 647 00:48:55,716 --> 00:48:56,250 recognize two outstanding 648 00:48:56,250 --> 00:48:56,717 leaders whose dedication 649 00:48:56,717 --> 00:48:57,317 to diplomacy and 650 00:48:57,317 --> 00:48:57,918 international 651 00:48:57,918 --> 00:48:58,919 collaboration has 652 00:48:58,919 --> 00:48:59,253 strengthened our global 653 00:48:59,253 --> 00:49:00,870 partnerships. 654 00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:03,870 And today we are honored 655 00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:04,658 to present certificates 656 00:49:04,658 --> 00:49:05,159 of appreciation to the 657 00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,159 honorable sylvia 658 00:49:07,428 --> 00:49:08,329 cesaratto and MISS 659 00:49:08,329 --> 00:49:09,396 Shannon eisenhut, the 660 00:49:09,396 --> 00:49:10,965 regional director of the 661 00:49:10,965 --> 00:49:13,365 uss department of state 662 00:49:17,472 --> 00:49:17,805 office of foreign 663 00:49:17,805 --> 00:49:18,439 emissions. 664 00:49:18,439 --> 00:49:19,730 And because I keep messing 665 00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:22,730 up the name probably, I'm 666 00:49:22,176 --> 00:49:22,743 going to let my olleague 667 00:49:22,743 --> 00:49:24,178 continue to mess up the 668 00:49:24,178 --> 00:49:26,178 name for me. 669 00:49:30,251 --> 00:49:30,818 So. 670 00:49:30,818 --> 00:49:31,519 [Laughter] And then of 671 00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:32,530 course I imagine the mayor 672 00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:32,854 is can I have some words 673 00:49:32,854 --> 00:49:36,454 to say as well and we'll 674 00:49:37,358 --> 00:49:38,327 let gerard if he has 675 00:49:38,327 --> 00:49:38,660 something to say as well. 676 00:49:38,660 --> 00:49:39,327 Commissioner? 677 00:49:39,327 --> 00:49:39,594 >> thank you, MR. 678 00:49:39,594 --> 00:49:40,462 CHAIRMAN. 679 00:49:40,462 --> 00:49:41,960 I'll be really brief. 680 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,630 One thing that's special 681 00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:44,463 about our interaction with 682 00:49:45,734 --> 00:49:48,403 the world is our counselor 683 00:49:48,403 --> 00:49:48,870 here is a very large 684 00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:50,870 consulate court. 685 00:49:57,947 --> 00:49:58,314 Its symbolic of the idea 686 00:49:58,314 --> 00:49:58,847 that we are an 687 00:49:58,847 --> 00:49:58,937 international city. 688 00:49:58,937 --> 00:49:59,848 E 689 00:49:59,848 --> 00:50:00,449 live -- international in 690 00:50:00,449 --> 00:50:04,490 the sense that we are the 691 00:50:06,155 --> 00:50:06,789 gateway to the americas 692 00:50:06,789 --> 00:50:07,723 and to south and central 693 00:50:07,723 --> 00:50:08,290 american and caribbean. 694 00:50:08,290 --> 00:50:09,224 We're the first people 695 00:50:09,224 --> 00:50:09,725 they see when they come to 696 00:50:09,725 --> 00:50:10,759 the country, where the 697 00:50:10,759 --> 00:50:13,759 last people they see if 698 00:50:14,195 --> 00:50:14,563 they are in this part of 699 00:50:14,563 --> 00:50:15,231 the hemisphere. 700 00:50:15,231 --> 00:50:15,898 We have great working 701 00:50:15,898 --> 00:50:16,699 relationships who not only 702 00:50:16,699 --> 00:50:17,700 foster cultural 703 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:18,334 connections but business 704 00:50:18,334 --> 00:50:19,235 connections and that 705 00:50:19,235 --> 00:50:19,802 happens through our 706 00:50:19,802 --> 00:50:20,803 wonderful partners in 707 00:50:20,803 --> 00:50:21,370 canada and also the state 708 00:50:21,370 --> 00:50:23,770 department has done an 709 00:50:33,115 --> 00:50:33,883 excellent job at keeping 710 00:50:33,883 --> 00:50:33,970 us connected to folks. 711 00:50:33,970 --> 00:50:34,884 S 712 00:50:34,884 --> 00:50:35,518 our honor and privilege to 713 00:50:35,518 --> 00:50:36,119 actually honor you all 714 00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:37,540 today and to recognize you 715 00:50:37,540 --> 00:50:37,654 and recognize your public 716 00:50:37,654 --> 00:50:38,488 service because people 717 00:50:38,488 --> 00:50:38,655 will not actually see you 718 00:50:38,655 --> 00:50:39,422 all. 719 00:50:39,422 --> 00:50:40,123 They'll see the prime 720 00:50:40,123 --> 00:50:40,990 minister and secretary, 721 00:50:40,990 --> 00:50:41,291 they'll see the PRESIDENT, 722 00:50:41,291 --> 00:50:42,158 ambassadors. 723 00:50:42,158 --> 00:50:42,725 They don't see the people 724 00:50:42,725 --> 00:50:43,493 that come every day and 725 00:50:43,493 --> 00:50:44,160 sit down with business 726 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,270 leads and show them how to 727 00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:45,629 make connections and help 728 00:50:45,629 --> 00:50:46,129 people through their 729 00:50:46,129 --> 00:50:48,129 immigration problems. 730 00:50:50,967 --> 00:50:51,200 They y don't see those 731 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,768 people. 732 00:50:51,768 --> 00:50:52,535 You're the people that do 733 00:50:52,535 --> 00:50:53,203 that work on behalf of all 734 00:50:53,203 --> 00:50:55,603 those people you serve, 735 00:50:56,674 --> 00:50:57,708 all those businesses you 736 00:50:57,708 --> 00:50:57,975 enable, miami-dade says 737 00:50:57,975 --> 00:50:58,842 thank you. 738 00:50:58,842 --> 00:50:59,810 They are? 739 00:50:59,810 --> 00:51:01,810 >> any other commissioners 740 00:51:04,381 --> 00:51:05,316 want to speak on -- 741 00:51:05,316 --> 00:51:05,883 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 742 00:51:05,883 --> 00:51:06,784 general, you are a front. 743 00:51:06,784 --> 00:51:10,384 Thank you so much for your 744 00:51:11,955 --> 00:51:12,623 friendship and support. 745 00:51:12,623 --> 00:51:13,590 As commissioner gilbert 746 00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:14,157 said, I personally have 747 00:51:14,157 --> 00:51:14,791 been working with the 748 00:51:14,791 --> 00:51:15,593 consulate general of 749 00:51:15,593 --> 00:51:15,860 canada, your predecessor, 750 00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:17,860 your self. 751 00:51:22,566 --> 00:51:23,167 it is amazing the kind of 752 00:51:23,167 --> 00:51:23,367 work that you're doing 753 00:51:23,367 --> 00:51:24,201 here. 754 00:51:24,201 --> 00:51:24,668 So many canadians living 755 00:51:24,668 --> 00:51:25,337 and working here. 756 00:51:25,337 --> 00:51:26,171 I'm just grateful that I 757 00:51:26,171 --> 00:51:28,306 can serve now in this role 758 00:51:28,306 --> 00:51:29,730 as your commissioner to 759 00:51:29,730 --> 00:51:29,774 help, you know, foster all 760 00:51:29,774 --> 00:51:30,408 the great relationships 761 00:51:30,408 --> 00:51:32,576 you have worked so hard to 762 00:51:32,576 --> 00:51:33,100 do so. 763 00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:33,611 So thank you. 764 00:51:33,611 --> 00:51:36,110 >> I've gotta say ditto. 765 00:51:40,885 --> 00:51:41,319 We've known each other, 766 00:51:41,319 --> 00:51:41,986 prior counsel in. 767 00:51:41,986 --> 00:51:42,520 I think I was one of the 768 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:42,920 first people that was 769 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,554 visited by you. 770 00:51:43,554 --> 00:51:44,422 Thank you for the great 771 00:51:44,422 --> 00:51:44,956 job you have done and 772 00:51:44,956 --> 00:51:45,122 continue to do both of 773 00:51:45,122 --> 00:51:45,924 you. 774 00:51:45,924 --> 00:51:48,324 Obviously, ditto to my 775 00:51:50,996 --> 00:51:51,696 colleague to the left. 776 00:51:51,696 --> 00:51:54,990 >> well, I must say that 777 00:51:54,990 --> 00:51:57,699 for me this is a personal 778 00:52:00,339 --> 00:52:01,239 loss and I have seen too 779 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,239 many consular corps 780 00:52:05,611 --> 00:52:06,212 members leave. 781 00:52:06,212 --> 00:52:06,712 We normally have one of 782 00:52:06,712 --> 00:52:07,346 the largest consular 783 00:52:07,346 --> 00:52:09,114 courts, we have the best 784 00:52:09,114 --> 00:52:09,681 in the country and we're 785 00:52:09,681 --> 00:52:13,281 very proud of that and it 786 00:52:13,718 --> 00:52:14,486 speaks to our global ties. 787 00:52:14,486 --> 00:52:15,200 I will also say that I 788 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,200 lived in canada. 789 00:52:17,657 --> 00:52:20,826 I lived in vancouver as a 790 00:52:20,826 --> 00:52:22,610 child and so I feel very 791 00:52:22,610 --> 00:52:25,610 attached to that at nation 792 00:52:31,971 --> 00:52:32,538 and I vacationed in canada 793 00:52:32,538 --> 00:52:33,506 in the wilds of canada and 794 00:52:33,506 --> 00:52:34,473 we will not be charging 795 00:52:34,473 --> 00:52:35,107 any tariffs to canada here 796 00:52:35,107 --> 00:52:35,942 in miami-dade county, just 797 00:52:35,942 --> 00:52:36,376 to make that very clear. 798 00:52:36,376 --> 00:52:36,743 Am I right? 799 00:52:36,743 --> 00:52:37,100 H, a policy 800 00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:37,811 decision. 801 00:52:37,811 --> 00:52:38,545 i'm gonna say it's a 802 00:52:38,545 --> 00:52:40,545 business decision. 803 00:52:43,216 --> 00:52:43,583 No tariffs for miami-dade 804 00:52:43,583 --> 00:52:44,250 county. 805 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:46,650 We value your leadership, 806 00:52:51,558 --> 00:52:52,459 we value your friendship. 807 00:52:52,459 --> 00:52:53,126 You been here not just on 808 00:52:53,126 --> 00:52:53,959 behalf of canada, you've 809 00:52:53,959 --> 00:52:54,727 been here on behalf of the 810 00:52:54,727 --> 00:52:55,562 globe and the country. 811 00:52:55,562 --> 00:52:55,796 You've stood up on so many 812 00:52:55,796 --> 00:52:56,597 issues. 813 00:52:56,597 --> 00:52:56,830 So many our environment 814 00:52:56,830 --> 00:52:57,564 issues. 815 00:52:57,564 --> 00:52:58,765 You've been at the 816 00:52:58,765 --> 00:53:01,765 forefront and we are very 817 00:53:03,537 --> 00:53:04,104 proud and sad to lose you. 818 00:53:04,104 --> 00:53:04,704 And to our state 819 00:53:04,704 --> 00:53:05,539 department, you have not 820 00:53:05,539 --> 00:53:06,574 just handled all the 821 00:53:06,574 --> 00:53:08,974 logistics for people who 822 00:53:12,379 --> 00:53:13,130 need help navigating, you 823 00:53:13,130 --> 00:53:13,614 facilitated these men and 824 00:53:13,614 --> 00:53:17,214 women from our team to go 825 00:53:17,418 --> 00:53:18,352 to venezuela and I know 826 00:53:18,352 --> 00:53:20,120 you're personally very 827 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:20,955 proud of that fact. 828 00:53:20,955 --> 00:53:23,955 You joined us there and 829 00:53:24,692 --> 00:53:25,260 greeting them and we're 830 00:53:25,260 --> 00:53:27,660 very, very grateful for 831 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:28,529 your incredible dedication 832 00:53:28,529 --> 00:53:29,970 and service. 833 00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:30,398 With the best possible 834 00:53:30,398 --> 00:53:32,798 role that state department 835 00:53:34,368 --> 00:53:34,868 could serve is to provide 836 00:53:34,868 --> 00:53:36,868 assistance to our 837 00:53:37,138 --> 00:53:37,739 neighbors in need, so 838 00:53:37,739 --> 00:53:40,139 we're very grateful and 839 00:53:45,246 --> 00:53:45,614 this is well deserving. 840 00:53:45,614 --> 00:53:46,615 Thank you. 841 00:53:46,615 --> 00:53:47,115 >> all right, mayor. 842 00:53:47,115 --> 00:53:47,782 Thank you so much. 843 00:53:47,782 --> 00:53:48,617 Now commissioner bastien. 844 00:53:48,617 --> 00:53:50,617 >> Marleine Bastien: 845 00:53:53,955 --> 00:53:54,589 thank you very much.. 846 00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:55,524 Good morning, everyone. 847 00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:56,191 Just want to join my 848 00:53:56,191 --> 00:53:57,590 colleagues and mayor to 849 00:53:57,590 --> 00:53:57,525 thank you for all of your 850 00:53:57,525 --> 00:53:58,590 service. 851 00:53:58,590 --> 00:53:59,161 often times, this job is 852 00:53:59,161 --> 00:54:00,950 being unrecognized, yet 853 00:54:00,950 --> 00:54:00,629 you have such an impact on 854 00:54:00,629 --> 00:54:02,330 people's lives, so I want 855 00:54:02,330 --> 00:54:02,797 to thank you for that and 856 00:54:02,797 --> 00:54:05,197 also thank you for 857 00:54:05,468 --> 00:54:06,368 reaching ut to my office 858 00:54:06,368 --> 00:54:08,700 and coming to meet with me 859 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:11,700 often to give feedback on 860 00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:12,874 the immigrant situation 861 00:54:12,874 --> 00:54:13,108 not only for me but for 862 00:54:13,108 --> 00:54:14,876 others. 863 00:54:14,876 --> 00:54:15,311 Thank you so much. 864 00:54:15,311 --> 00:54:17,311 Appreciate you. 865 00:54:19,148 --> 00:54:19,648 >> all right. 866 00:54:19,648 --> 00:54:20,149 Commissioners -- 867 00:54:20,149 --> 00:54:21,550 >> ditto. 868 00:54:21,550 --> 00:54:22,618 Exactly. 869 00:54:22,618 --> 00:54:22,884 >> thank you, MR. 870 00:54:22,884 --> 00:54:24,419 CHAIRMAN. 871 00:54:24,419 --> 00:54:27,419 Just want to say that 872 00:54:28,391 --> 00:54:29,580 we're definitely going to 873 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:31,580 MISS Consular general. 874 00:54:33,295 --> 00:54:33,863 I think she has done an 875 00:54:33,863 --> 00:54:34,396 amazing job keeping 876 00:54:34,396 --> 00:54:36,396 florida, keeping 877 00:54:41,938 --> 00:54:42,171 miami-dade connected to 878 00:54:42,171 --> 00:54:42,805 canada. 879 00:54:42,805 --> 00:54:43,473 And to MISS Eisenhut, we 880 00:54:43,473 --> 00:54:44,373 always call upon her on 881 00:54:44,373 --> 00:54:44,907 everything when we have 882 00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:45,410 foreign delegation. 883 00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:45,608 He's 884 00:54:45,608 --> 00:54:47,477 smiling right now. 885 00:54:47,477 --> 00:54:47,677 I can tell you that she 886 00:54:47,677 --> 00:54:48,478 knows. 887 00:54:48,478 --> 00:54:50,347 We are going to MISS Both 888 00:54:50,347 --> 00:54:51,715 of them tremendously, but 889 00:54:51,715 --> 00:54:54,115 thank you very much. 890 00:55:05,128 --> 00:55:05,796 [Applause] 891 00:55:05,796 --> 00:55:09,396 >> would like you to say a 892 00:55:10,734 --> 00:55:10,901 few words as well both of 893 00:55:10,901 --> 00:55:11,768 you. 894 00:55:11,768 --> 00:55:12,335 >> this is unscripted. 895 00:55:12,335 --> 00:55:15,335 Firstly, thank you all so 896 00:55:17,341 --> 00:55:17,975 very much for the sponsors 897 00:55:17,975 --> 00:55:18,342 and all of you for your 898 00:55:18,342 --> 00:55:19,109 kind words. 899 00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:21,345 It's been a true privilege 900 00:55:21,345 --> 00:55:24,945 for me to be in florida 901 00:55:32,356 --> 00:55:32,957 and here in miami 902 00:55:32,957 --> 00:55:33,824 representing canada these 903 00:55:33,824 --> 00:55:34,458 last four years. 904 00:55:34,458 --> 00:55:34,958 Firstly, let me thank you 905 00:55:34,958 --> 00:55:35,794 for those wearing red. 906 00:55:35,794 --> 00:55:36,194 It looks wonderful on you. 907 00:55:36,194 --> 00:55:36,661 Canadian colors. 908 00:55:36,661 --> 00:55:37,262 I have had five 909 00:55:37,262 --> 00:55:38,229 international postings, so 910 00:55:38,229 --> 00:55:40,629 my career is quickly 911 00:55:40,965 --> 00:55:43,965 coming to an end sadly, 912 00:55:44,350 --> 00:55:44,635 but I will take away very 913 00:55:44,635 --> 00:55:47,439 fond memories of my time 914 00:55:47,439 --> 00:55:48,600 here in miami because 915 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,406 everyone has been so 916 00:55:52,744 --> 00:55:53,277 gracious in receiving us 917 00:55:53,277 --> 00:55:54,178 and everyone has a good 918 00:55:54,178 --> 00:55:57,178 story to tell about their 919 00:55:59,317 --> 00:56:00,180 relationship with canada. 920 00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:00,785 Despite what's happening 921 00:56:00,785 --> 00:56:01,353 at the federal level and 922 00:56:01,353 --> 00:56:02,654 in the media, at the end 923 00:56:02,654 --> 00:56:03,540 of the day we remain 924 00:56:03,540 --> 00:56:05,540 neighbors. 925 00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:08,527 Canada isn't moving. 926 00:56:08,527 --> 00:56:10,929 We are not going anywhere. 927 00:56:10,929 --> 00:56:11,830 Friends and allies and the 928 00:56:11,830 --> 00:56:12,640 strongest of friends and 929 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,640 allies. 930 00:56:14,232 --> 00:56:15,000 We share the biggest 931 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000 trading relationship 932 00:56:19,438 --> 00:56:19,772 between any two countries 933 00:56:19,772 --> 00:56:20,405 in the world. 934 00:56:20,405 --> 00:56:21,173 We share the longest 935 00:56:21,173 --> 00:56:23,573 border between any two 936 00:56:24,643 --> 00:56:25,511 countries in the world 937 00:56:25,511 --> 00:56:26,450 that is jointly managed. 938 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:26,712 We are completely 939 00:56:26,712 --> 00:56:27,513 integrated economically, 940 00:56:27,513 --> 00:56:30,513 but more than that we 941 00:56:31,517 --> 00:56:32,318 share the same values for 942 00:56:32,318 --> 00:56:32,585 peace and prosperity and 943 00:56:32,585 --> 00:56:34,585 security. 944 00:56:35,588 --> 00:56:36,122 Is been a real honor. 945 00:56:36,122 --> 00:56:39,122 I have to tell you 946 00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:40,926 everywhere I've been there 947 00:56:40,926 --> 00:56:41,561 isn't an evening or even 948 00:56:41,561 --> 00:56:42,495 somebody doesn't tell me 949 00:56:42,495 --> 00:56:45,495 they've been to canada or 950 00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:51,170 they have canadian roots 951 00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:51,971 or good canadian friends 952 00:56:51,971 --> 00:56:52,705 or even canadians in their 953 00:56:52,705 --> 00:56:53,720 family and the reverse is 954 00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:55,720 true. 955 00:56:58,945 --> 00:56:59,779 All I can say is thank you 956 00:56:59,779 --> 00:57:00,213 for the warm welcome, the 957 00:57:00,213 --> 00:57:00,513 friendship, the 958 00:57:00,513 --> 00:57:02,513 partnership. 959 00:57:06,486 --> 00:57:07,154 I'm going back home. 960 00:57:07,154 --> 00:57:08,210 I hope to see you there 961 00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:08,722 one day, mayor, 962 00:57:08,722 --> 00:57:09,122 congressman potentially. 963 00:57:09,122 --> 00:57:09,790 All of you. 964 00:57:09,790 --> 00:57:10,624 Vicki, we didn't get you 965 00:57:10,624 --> 00:57:12,759 in your role, but maybe 966 00:57:12,759 --> 00:57:15,159 from your new perch. 967 00:57:16,397 --> 00:57:16,964 I just want to recognize 968 00:57:16,964 --> 00:57:17,231 ger for his support and 969 00:57:17,231 --> 00:57:19,231 his team. 970 00:57:23,970 --> 00:57:24,805 So thank nk you. 971 00:57:24,805 --> 00:57:26,805 >> good morning, everyone. 972 00:57:31,278 --> 00:57:31,879 First of all, it's my 973 00:57:31,879 --> 00:57:32,612 absolute pleasure to be 974 00:57:32,612 --> 00:57:33,280 here as a florida native 975 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,214 and to be signed here in 976 00:57:34,214 --> 00:57:34,815 miami back home, which is 977 00:57:34,815 --> 00:57:35,383 really nice. 978 00:57:35,383 --> 00:57:37,783 As sylvia said, after 979 00:57:47,629 --> 00:57:48,463 many, many years, 20+ just 980 00:57:48,463 --> 00:57:49,640 in government, but 981 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:49,530 actually 35 years being 982 00:57:49,530 --> 00:57:50,131 international and 983 00:57:50,131 --> 00:57:50,965 representing our nation, 984 00:57:50,965 --> 00:57:51,566 it's so wonderful to 985 00:57:51,566 --> 00:57:52,466 finally be back home and 986 00:57:52,466 --> 00:57:53,434 to work with all of our 987 00:57:53,434 --> 00:57:55,834 local, state, and federal 988 00:57:56,571 --> 00:57:56,971 counterparts has been 989 00:57:56,971 --> 00:57:57,706 incredible. 990 00:57:57,706 --> 00:57:58,440 Unprecedented especially 991 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,173 this year as we know 992 00:57:59,173 --> 00:57:59,941 concluding the world cup 993 00:57:59,941 --> 00:58:00,608 and working with all of 994 00:58:00,608 --> 00:58:03,800 our partners and leading 995 00:58:05,714 --> 00:58:06,615 up to the g 20, which is 996 00:58:06,615 --> 00:58:07,216 going to be just a perfect 997 00:58:07,216 --> 00:58:08,830 way to cap off a very, 998 00:58:08,830 --> 00:58:08,784 very exciting crazy year. 999 00:58:08,784 --> 00:58:09,551 Also, I want to say thank 1000 00:58:09,551 --> 00:58:10,251 you to all my law 1001 00:58:10,251 --> 00:58:10,852 enforcement partners. 1002 00:58:10,852 --> 00:58:13,852 As a diplomatic agent, not 1003 00:58:23,980 --> 00:58:23,899 only did I serve -- very, 1004 00:58:23,899 --> 00:58:24,532 very precarious places. 1005 00:58:24,532 --> 00:58:25,100 I just want to say thank 1006 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:25,434 you to all of your 1007 00:58:25,434 --> 00:58:26,680 service. 1008 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:26,536 Really, I know what it 1009 00:58:26,536 --> 00:58:27,169 means to have that 1010 00:58:27,169 --> 00:58:30,169 dedication and to get up 1011 00:58:30,806 --> 00:58:31,307 there and work in some 1012 00:58:31,307 --> 00:58:31,874 really austere 1013 00:58:31,874 --> 00:58:32,474 environments, so I just 1014 00:58:32,474 --> 00:58:33,750 want to say thank you. 1015 00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:33,976 It's been my honor. 1016 00:58:33,976 --> 00:58:36,179 Not only do I get to work 1017 00:58:36,179 --> 00:58:36,812 with so many people in the 1018 00:58:36,812 --> 00:58:39,212 consular court, which is 1019 00:58:39,248 --> 00:58:39,448 the largest consular 1020 00:58:39,448 --> 00:58:41,448 court. 1021 00:58:50,426 --> 00:58:51,261 My office we cover puerto 1022 00:58:51,261 --> 00:58:51,493 rico to the virgin 1023 00:58:51,493 --> 00:58:52,328 islands. 1024 00:58:52,328 --> 00:58:52,962 The international 1025 00:58:52,962 --> 00:58:53,729 community that space here 1026 00:58:53,729 --> 00:58:53,963 is incredible and it's 1027 00:58:53,963 --> 00:58:54,730 growing. 1028 00:58:54,730 --> 00:58:58,930 So I'm glad that I get to 1029 00:58:59,269 --> 00:59:00,360 be here to support not 1030 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:00,770 only all of our partners, 1031 00:59:00,770 --> 00:59:01,337 but the local community. 1032 00:59:01,337 --> 00:59:01,838 As I say, we need to 1033 00:59:01,838 --> 00:59:02,472 connect, create, and 1034 00:59:02,472 --> 00:59:03,273 contribute and definitely 1035 00:59:03,273 --> 00:59:03,806 get back to community. 1036 00:59:03,806 --> 00:59:04,273 Thank you so much. 1037 00:59:04,273 --> 00:59:04,674 It is my honor. 1038 00:59:04,674 --> 00:59:05,575 Also retiring. 1039 00:59:05,575 --> 00:59:07,644 I want to stay home in 1040 00:59:07,644 --> 00:59:07,844 florida for a little 1041 00:59:07,844 --> 00:59:08,345 while. 1042 00:59:08,345 --> 00:59:09,612 Thank you so much. 1043 00:59:09,612 --> 00:59:11,114 Really a pleasure. 1044 00:59:11,114 --> 00:59:13,114 [Dog barking] [Applause] 1045 00:59:18,689 --> 00:59:19,223 >> you see they are 1046 00:59:19,223 --> 00:59:20,157 excited as well, too. 1047 00:59:20,157 --> 00:59:20,690 We have a special 1048 00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:21,291 presentation and 1049 00:59:21,291 --> 00:59:21,925 certificate to present. 1050 00:59:21,925 --> 00:59:22,359 You want to help me with 1051 00:59:22,359 --> 00:59:24,359 one of these? 1052 00:59:24,694 --> 00:59:25,162 You want to hold on -- see 1053 00:59:25,162 --> 00:59:25,930 the other one. 1054 00:59:25,930 --> 00:59:28,930 So as commissioner and on 1055 00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:34,338 behalf of the mayor to my 1056 00:59:34,338 --> 00:59:35,373 left and the board of 1057 00:59:35,373 --> 00:59:36,173 county commissioners and 1058 00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:36,741 the residents of 1059 00:59:36,741 --> 00:59:37,308 miami-dade county, nearly 1060 00:59:37,308 --> 00:59:37,875 1.28 million + or minus, I 1061 00:59:37,875 --> 00:59:39,875 take great pleasure 1062 00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:43,347 imprisoning this 1063 00:59:43,347 --> 00:59:43,914 certificate of 1064 00:59:43,914 --> 00:59:44,448 appreciation to you in 1065 00:59:44,448 --> 00:59:45,820 recognition of your 1066 00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:45,917 valuable punch missions to 1067 00:59:45,917 --> 00:59:46,551 our community and wish you 1068 00:59:46,551 --> 00:59:49,200 the best as you mark your 1069 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,587 tenor enor with the 1070 00:59:49,587 --> 00:59:51,489 miami-dade consular 1071 00:59:51,489 --> 00:59:51,622 courts. 1072 00:59:51,622 --> 00:59:52,523 S. 1073 00:59:52,523 --> 00:59:54,523 Shannon eisenhut. 1074 00:59:55,794 --> 00:59:56,795 Congratulations. 1075 00:59:56,795 --> 00:59:59,795 >> the search of get of 1076 01:00:00,632 --> 01:00:01,466 appreciation is presented 1077 01:00:01,466 --> 01:00:02,533 to the honorable sylvia 1078 01:00:02,533 --> 01:00:04,469 cersaratto, the counsel 1079 01:00:04,469 --> 01:00:05,360 general for canada in 1080 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,371 miami. 1081 01:00:06,371 --> 01:00:07,172 Congratulations and thank 1082 01:00:07,172 --> 01:00:08,940 you for your service. 1083 01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:11,340 >> thank you so much. 1084 01:00:40,806 --> 01:00:42,806 [Applause] 1085 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,760 >> thank you so much. 1086 01:01:08,668 --> 01:01:10,604 Yes. 1087 01:01:10,604 --> 01:01:12,305 Eventually, eventually. 1088 01:01:12,305 --> 01:01:15,305 Thank you for your work 1089 01:01:15,876 --> 01:01:18,276 it's been a pleasure. 1090 01:01:20,881 --> 01:01:23,881 My office is still there. 1091 01:01:43,804 --> 01:01:45,804 >> thank you. 1092 01:01:50,478 --> 01:01:52,478 >> yes. 1093 01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,654 >> all right. 1094 01:01:59,654 --> 01:02:02,654 Let's take the chatter to 1095 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,240 the side. 1096 01:02:06,328 --> 01:02:08,328 Mayor. 1097 01:02:14,502 --> 01:02:15,690 All right, guys. 1098 01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:15,604 We have our second 1099 01:02:15,604 --> 01:02:16,505 presentation of the day. 1100 01:02:16,505 --> 01:02:18,440 I think our last, right? 1101 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:18,640 all right, we have two 1102 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:19,441 today. 1103 01:02:19,441 --> 01:02:22,441 So now for our second 1104 01:02:24,312 --> 01:02:26,712 presentation, we have our 1105 01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:35,691 -- why are you so bossy? 1106 01:02:35,691 --> 01:02:36,580 I was going to say 1107 01:02:36,580 --> 01:02:36,893 something mean. 1108 01:02:36,893 --> 01:02:37,760 I was gonna say something 1109 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:38,361 mean regarding the dc. 1110 01:02:38,361 --> 01:02:38,694 This is the congress 1111 01:02:38,694 --> 01:02:39,361 slide. 1112 01:02:39,361 --> 01:02:42,361 These are already -- this 1113 01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:49,572 is actually always him. 1114 01:02:49,572 --> 01:02:50,439 So today, we proudly 1115 01:02:50,439 --> 01:02:50,907 recognize -- and we quiet 1116 01:02:50,907 --> 01:02:51,474 down, please. 1117 01:02:51,474 --> 01:02:52,141 Today we probably 1118 01:02:52,141 --> 01:02:52,975 recognize the 1119 01:02:52,975 --> 01:02:54,975 extraordinary courage, 1120 01:02:55,312 --> 01:02:56,212 professionalism, selfless 1121 01:02:56,212 --> 01:02:56,713 service of miami-dade fire 1122 01:02:56,713 --> 01:02:57,414 rescue urban search and 1123 01:02:57,414 --> 01:02:58,140 rescue team florida task 1124 01:02:58,140 --> 01:03:00,140 force one. 1125 01:03:00,383 --> 01:03:03,383 Thank you for being here. 1126 01:03:06,723 --> 01:03:07,457 [Applause] [Applause] I 1127 01:03:07,457 --> 01:03:08,358 want to first think all of 1128 01:03:08,358 --> 01:03:10,126 my colleagues for being 1129 01:03:10,126 --> 01:03:11,940 here this morning for this 1130 01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:13,940 special presentation. 1131 01:03:13,863 --> 01:03:15,863 Specifically those that 1132 01:03:16,133 --> 01:03:16,834 cosponsored it with me. 1133 01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:18,834 Commissioner bermudez, 1134 01:03:20,971 --> 01:03:21,137 lopez, and steinberg so 1135 01:03:21,137 --> 01:03:21,805 far. 1136 01:03:21,805 --> 01:03:22,739 Know there's more 1137 01:03:22,739 --> 01:03:24,974 coming, for joining me as 1138 01:03:24,974 --> 01:03:25,709 cosponsors for the special 1139 01:03:25,709 --> 01:03:27,444 presentation honoring the 1140 01:03:27,444 --> 01:03:28,178 brave members of florida's 1141 01:03:28,178 --> 01:03:30,178 task force one. 1142 01:03:33,717 --> 01:03:34,384 Following the devastating 1143 01:03:34,384 --> 01:03:35,510 earthquakes that struck 1144 01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:35,786 venezuela in JUNE, florida 1145 01:03:35,786 --> 01:03:37,821 task force one answered 1146 01:03:37,821 --> 01:03:38,789 the call to serve. 1147 01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:39,290 At the request of the us 1148 01:03:39,290 --> 01:03:41,690 apartment of state, the 1149 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:44,761 team deployed in a 80 1150 01:03:44,761 --> 01:03:45,496 member task force, there's 1151 01:03:45,496 --> 01:03:46,300 not 80 here today, but 1152 01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:48,300 there's a lot. 1153 01:03:49,133 --> 01:03:50,000 Including six canine 1154 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,335 search teams, medical 1155 01:03:51,335 --> 01:03:52,360 hazardous logistics and 1156 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,360 structural engineering. 1157 01:03:57,675 --> 01:03:58,109 Are these some? 1158 01:03:58,109 --> 01:03:58,309 Did they all go? 1159 01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:58,710 Nice. 1160 01:03:58,710 --> 01:04:01,110 All six of them. 1161 01:04:01,212 --> 01:04:01,713 It was over eight days you 1162 01:04:01,713 --> 01:04:02,579 guys were there? 1163 01:04:02,579 --> 01:04:05,579 So over eight days they 1164 01:04:09,870 --> 01:04:09,654 worked alongside 1165 01:04:09,654 --> 01:04:10,588 conducting search and 1166 01:04:10,588 --> 01:04:11,122 rescue operations and 1167 01:04:11,122 --> 01:04:13,122 bringing hope to 1168 01:04:15,126 --> 01:04:15,494 communities affected by 1169 01:04:15,494 --> 01:04:16,395 this tragedy. 1170 01:04:16,395 --> 01:04:17,596 And their dedication and 1171 01:04:17,596 --> 01:04:18,663 compassion earned 1172 01:04:18,663 --> 01:04:19,497 recognition elmar national 1173 01:04:19,497 --> 01:04:21,497 recognition including the 1174 01:04:26,672 --> 01:04:27,172 venezuela metal in 1175 01:04:27,172 --> 01:04:27,673 gratitude for their 1176 01:04:27,673 --> 01:04:28,240 exemplary service. 1177 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,640 Today, we proudly honor 1178 01:04:39,118 --> 01:04:39,785 chief brandon webb. 1179 01:04:39,785 --> 01:04:39,952 You can come on up with 1180 01:04:39,952 --> 01:04:40,586 us. 1181 01:04:40,586 --> 01:04:41,553 And every member of 1182 01:04:41,553 --> 01:04:42,220 florida task force one for 1183 01:04:42,220 --> 01:04:43,210 representing miami-dade 1184 01:04:43,210 --> 01:04:43,621 county with courage, 1185 01:04:43,621 --> 01:04:44,590 excellence, and an 1186 01:04:44,590 --> 01:04:46,590 unwavering commitment to 1187 01:04:50,229 --> 01:04:51,130 saving lives. 1188 01:04:51,130 --> 01:04:51,731 I'm going to call you guys 1189 01:04:51,731 --> 01:04:52,164 all up in a second, so 1190 01:04:52,164 --> 01:04:52,731 don't worry. 1191 01:04:52,731 --> 01:04:53,365 Stand next to me, man. 1192 01:04:53,365 --> 01:04:54,699 At this time, I'd like to 1193 01:04:54,699 --> 01:04:55,234 turn our attention to the 1194 01:04:55,234 --> 01:04:56,169 video being played by me 1195 01:04:56,169 --> 01:04:58,371 for a short clip on this 1196 01:04:58,371 --> 01:05:00,371 mission. 1197 01:05:05,612 --> 01:05:07,612 [Music] 1198 01:07:14,543 --> 01:07:16,543 [Pause] 1199 01:07:19,182 --> 01:07:19,482 >> all right. 1200 01:07:19,482 --> 01:07:20,150 [Applause] 1201 01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:22,510 >> I imagine the stories 1202 01:07:22,510 --> 01:07:24,530 andi hope you share some 1203 01:07:24,530 --> 01:07:24,620 of that with us when you 1204 01:07:24,620 --> 01:07:27,620 speak here in a few 1205 01:07:30,494 --> 01:07:31,394 minutes, chief web. 1206 01:07:31,394 --> 01:07:32,620 I imagine being over there 1207 01:07:32,620 --> 01:07:32,896 was probably the most 1208 01:07:32,896 --> 01:07:33,530 emotional portion of this, 1209 01:07:33,530 --> 01:07:37,130 but this last clip kind of 1210 01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:42,305 giving -- getting you guys 1211 01:07:42,305 --> 01:07:43,600 back home. 1212 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:43,206 Glad to have you guys back 1213 01:07:43,206 --> 01:07:43,774 home. 1214 01:07:43,774 --> 01:07:44,541 I want my colleagues to 1215 01:07:44,541 --> 01:07:46,744 say a few words and have a 1216 01:07:46,744 --> 01:07:47,344 special presentation. 1217 01:07:47,344 --> 01:07:47,678 Commissioner lopez, you 1218 01:07:47,678 --> 01:07:48,980 want to lead? 1219 01:07:48,980 --> 01:07:49,513 > Vicki Lopez: thank 1220 01:07:49,513 --> 01:07:51,513 you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 1221 01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:53,851 Some of you know I was 1222 01:07:53,851 --> 01:07:54,451 the budget chair in the 1223 01:07:54,451 --> 01:07:57,451 florida house when it came 1224 01:08:05,997 --> 01:08:06,698 time to fund you and it 1225 01:08:06,698 --> 01:08:07,298 was touch and go to the 1226 01:08:07,298 --> 01:08:07,899 very last minute and I 1227 01:08:07,899 --> 01:08:08,466 never gave up because I 1228 01:08:08,466 --> 01:08:08,866 know the importance of 1229 01:08:08,866 --> 01:08:09,701 your work. 1230 01:08:09,701 --> 01:08:10,201 And so in the final 1231 01:08:10,201 --> 01:08:10,835 moments of that budget 1232 01:08:10,835 --> 01:08:11,469 conference, we were able 1233 01:08:11,469 --> 01:08:12,236 to get you $4.8 million to 1234 01:08:12,236 --> 01:08:15,236 do what you do best. 1235 01:08:17,943 --> 01:08:18,577 And it was the greatest 1236 01:08:18,577 --> 01:08:19,510 honor and privilege to be 1237 01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:20,450 able to have my hand and 1238 01:08:20,450 --> 01:08:20,879 fingerprints on that. 1239 01:08:20,879 --> 01:08:21,579 So just want to tell you 1240 01:08:21,579 --> 01:08:22,146 it's for that very reason 1241 01:08:22,146 --> 01:08:23,514 that we all support you. 1242 01:08:23,514 --> 01:08:24,215 And I am moved by saying 1243 01:08:24,215 --> 01:08:26,615 you in action because 1244 01:08:29,988 --> 01:08:30,788 often times, you know, we 1245 01:08:30,788 --> 01:08:31,423 are funding things we 1246 01:08:31,423 --> 01:08:32,230 don't know what we're 1247 01:08:32,230 --> 01:08:32,424 funding, we don't know 1248 01:08:32,424 --> 01:08:33,391 what you do. 1249 01:08:33,391 --> 01:08:33,992 You have proven your worth 1250 01:08:33,992 --> 01:08:34,793 and every penny and what 1251 01:08:34,793 --> 01:08:36,495 you do. 1252 01:08:36,495 --> 01:08:40,950 Thank you so much for your 1253 01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:41,400 service. 1254 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,267 [Applause] 1255 01:08:42,267 --> 01:08:44,667 >> often times, we don't 1256 01:08:46,705 --> 01:08:49,705 think about the value, the 1257 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:52,644 importance, and the 1258 01:08:52,644 --> 01:08:53,412 sacrifices that you have 1259 01:08:53,412 --> 01:08:53,979 to make to do this work. 1260 01:08:53,979 --> 01:08:55,381 And in watching the clips 1261 01:08:55,381 --> 01:08:57,984 and watching you get ready 1262 01:08:57,984 --> 01:09:00,984 to deport and knowing that 1263 01:09:01,554 --> 01:09:02,880 you are, you know, 1264 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,588 fathers, mothers. 1265 01:09:03,588 --> 01:09:05,588 You're leaving everything 1266 01:09:06,292 --> 01:09:06,492 behind to help those in 1267 01:09:06,492 --> 01:09:07,160 need. 1268 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,227 So we cannot thank you 1269 01:09:08,227 --> 01:09:08,895 enough because you are 1270 01:09:08,895 --> 01:09:11,295 ambassadors when you are 1271 01:09:18,871 --> 01:09:19,720 out there doing GOD's 1272 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:19,572 work. 1273 01:09:19,572 --> 01:09:20,407 You are ambassadors. 1274 01:09:20,407 --> 01:09:20,940 It's enough for us to see. 1275 01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:21,374 Thank you. 1276 01:09:21,374 --> 01:09:22,108 Thank you for your 1277 01:09:22,108 --> 01:09:22,642 sacrifices, thank you for 1278 01:09:22,642 --> 01:09:24,642 your services. 1279 01:09:26,179 --> 01:09:26,480 Thank you. 1280 01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:28,480 [Applause] 1281 01:09:32,485 --> 01:09:32,952 >> I will reiterate what 1282 01:09:32,952 --> 01:09:33,620 my colleagues said. 1283 01:09:33,620 --> 01:09:34,387 Thank you so much, you and 1284 01:09:34,387 --> 01:09:36,787 your families, for the 1285 01:09:44,297 --> 01:09:44,798 sacrifices and also our 1286 01:09:44,798 --> 01:09:45,533 friends here. 1287 01:09:45,533 --> 01:09:46,167 Thank you very much. 1288 01:09:46,167 --> 01:09:46,667 You're the best 1289 01:09:46,667 --> 01:09:47,168 representation of 1290 01:09:47,168 --> 01:09:47,768 miami-dade county. 1291 01:09:47,768 --> 01:09:48,335 I know many of you have 1292 01:09:48,335 --> 01:09:49,203 been around the world. 1293 01:09:49,203 --> 01:09:51,603 It's not just venezuela. 1294 01:09:54,241 --> 01:09:54,908 Happen to represent a 1295 01:09:54,908 --> 01:09:55,777 district that has the most 1296 01:09:55,777 --> 01:09:56,778 -- in miami-dade county 1297 01:09:56,778 --> 01:09:57,311 and we are very thankful. 1298 01:09:57,311 --> 01:09:57,879 I know all the residents 1299 01:09:57,879 --> 01:09:58,912 are very thankful for 1300 01:09:58,912 --> 01:09:59,146 having miami-dade county 1301 01:09:59,146 --> 01:09:59,914 present. 1302 01:09:59,914 --> 01:10:02,314 Many times the elected 1303 01:10:03,650 --> 01:10:04,284 officials get pictures in 1304 01:10:04,284 --> 01:10:05,953 that, but you're probably 1305 01:10:05,953 --> 01:10:08,353 the best representation of 1306 01:10:09,357 --> 01:10:09,957 what this county is and as 1307 01:10:09,957 --> 01:10:12,957 my colleague said, you are 1308 01:10:13,794 --> 01:10:14,495 not only ambassadors, but 1309 01:10:14,495 --> 01:10:16,895 you are the representation 1310 01:10:17,432 --> 01:10:18,300 of the love this county 1311 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:21,900 has for the rest of the 1312 01:10:22,604 --> 01:10:22,837 world whenever there is a 1313 01:10:22,837 --> 01:10:23,638 crisis. 1314 01:10:23,638 --> 01:10:24,205 In this case, it happened 1315 01:10:24,205 --> 01:10:24,672 in one of our sister 1316 01:10:24,672 --> 01:10:26,672 countries in this 1317 01:10:36,151 --> 01:10:37,190 hemisphere, which made it 1318 01:10:37,190 --> 01:10:37,453 an incredible time more 1319 01:10:37,453 --> 01:10:38,530 important than all. 1320 01:10:38,530 --> 01:10:38,720 And I know it means time 1321 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:39,521 away from your families, 1322 01:10:39,521 --> 01:10:40,255 so that's why we have to 1323 01:10:40,255 --> 01:10:41,890 thank you our families and 1324 01:10:41,890 --> 01:10:41,790 loved ones because it's 1325 01:10:41,790 --> 01:10:42,290 not easy to be away for a 1326 01:10:42,290 --> 01:10:42,858 period of time. 1327 01:10:42,858 --> 01:10:43,758 You probably saw many 1328 01:10:43,758 --> 01:10:44,392 things that many of us 1329 01:10:44,392 --> 01:10:45,226 will never get to see you, 1330 01:10:45,226 --> 01:10:47,263 but I'm sure the people of 1331 01:10:47,263 --> 01:10:48,163 venezuela and the people 1332 01:10:48,163 --> 01:10:48,864 of this hemisphere and all 1333 01:10:48,864 --> 01:10:51,264 around the world, because 1334 01:10:55,838 --> 01:10:56,706 we can talk about the 1335 01:10:56,706 --> 01:10:57,272 places you've been, have 1336 01:10:57,272 --> 01:10:57,773 seen the best 1337 01:10:57,773 --> 01:10:58,273 representation of 1338 01:10:58,273 --> 01:10:58,641 miami-dade county, so 1339 01:10:58,641 --> 01:10:58,774 thank you again. 1340 01:10:58,774 --> 01:10:59,542 Od 1341 01:10:59,542 --> 01:10:59,842 bless. 1342 01:10:59,842 --> 01:11:01,842 [Applause] 1343 01:11:07,684 --> 01:11:08,384 >> all right. 1344 01:11:08,384 --> 01:11:08,818 So first and foremost, 1345 01:11:08,818 --> 01:11:09,719 thank you. 1346 01:11:09,719 --> 01:11:10,386 I know not too long ago we 1347 01:11:10,386 --> 01:11:11,287 were here also honoring 1348 01:11:11,287 --> 01:11:13,687 you in your courageous 1349 01:11:17,593 --> 01:11:17,793 acts elting in the call of 1350 01:11:17,793 --> 01:11:18,161 duty. 1351 01:11:18,161 --> 01:11:18,695 you run to it. 1352 01:11:18,695 --> 01:11:19,562 Unfortunately, we have 1353 01:11:19,562 --> 01:11:21,562 these horrible disasters. 1354 01:11:21,731 --> 01:11:22,431 Hope to not be 1355 01:11:22,431 --> 01:11:24,667 recognizing you last year 1356 01:11:24,667 --> 01:11:25,369 because every time we do 1357 01:11:25,369 --> 01:11:29,569 we know we put you out re 1358 01:11:33,309 --> 01:11:33,643 in the he most harrowing 1359 01:11:33,643 --> 01:11:34,410 circumstances. 1360 01:11:34,410 --> 01:11:35,780 We thank you so much. 1361 01:11:35,780 --> 01:11:35,879 There's not many words we 1362 01:11:35,879 --> 01:11:38,879 can say because what you 1363 01:11:41,151 --> 01:11:42,520 experience is something 1364 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:42,652 that, it's like I said 1365 01:11:42,652 --> 01:11:42,952 last time, things of 1366 01:11:42,952 --> 01:11:43,887 nightmares. 1367 01:11:43,887 --> 01:11:44,454 I just want to make sure 1368 01:11:44,454 --> 01:11:45,210 that if you all need 1369 01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:45,890 anything, you let us know 1370 01:11:45,890 --> 01:11:46,524 as well because we want to 1371 01:11:46,524 --> 01:11:49,226 be here for you just like 1372 01:11:49,226 --> 01:11:49,727 you were there for 1373 01:11:49,727 --> 01:11:51,228 everybody else. 1374 01:11:51,228 --> 01:11:51,528 Thank you. 1375 01:11:51,528 --> 01:11:53,528 [Applause] 1376 01:11:54,498 --> 01:11:55,132 >> I'll reiterate what my 1377 01:11:55,132 --> 01:11:57,132 colleagues said. 1378 01:11:57,702 --> 01:11:58,602 Listen, you're what 1379 01:11:58,602 --> 01:12:00,602 american exceptionalism 1380 01:12:01,205 --> 01:12:03,605 actually looks like when 1381 01:12:03,741 --> 01:12:06,141 folks really need us. 1382 01:12:10,815 --> 01:12:11,482 When folks really need us, 1383 01:12:11,482 --> 01:12:12,490 you're in amber of hope, a 1384 01:12:12,490 --> 01:12:12,583 flicker of light to 1385 01:12:12,583 --> 01:12:13,350 someone who's trapped 1386 01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:15,350 under something, to 1387 01:12:16,855 --> 01:12:17,789 someone who just needs 1388 01:12:17,789 --> 01:12:18,490 something to hang onto, 1389 01:12:18,490 --> 01:12:21,490 something to pull them out 1390 01:12:27,265 --> 01:12:28,660 back into a world that 1391 01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:28,667 might not be perfect, but 1392 01:12:28,667 --> 01:12:29,167 it's a world to live in. 1393 01:12:29,167 --> 01:12:29,501 What you do is 1394 01:12:29,501 --> 01:12:30,201 exceptional. 1395 01:12:30,201 --> 01:12:30,668 You leave your homes and 1396 01:12:30,668 --> 01:12:31,569 your families. 1397 01:12:31,569 --> 01:12:31,769 You put yourselves at 1398 01:12:31,769 --> 01:12:32,103 risk. 1399 01:12:32,103 --> 01:12:32,737 Ou go into 1400 01:12:32,737 --> 01:12:35,137 situations that we could 1401 01:12:41,512 --> 01:12:42,147 never imagine and you do 1402 01:12:42,147 --> 01:12:43,810 it in the name of this 1403 01:12:43,810 --> 01:12:43,648 county, all of the great 1404 01:12:43,648 --> 01:12:44,182 residence, but you do it 1405 01:12:44,182 --> 01:12:45,150 in this country. 1406 01:12:45,150 --> 01:12:46,152 So to those folks that you 1407 01:12:46,152 --> 01:12:49,752 save and you help, you are 1408 01:12:53,125 --> 01:12:53,358 american and you represent 1409 01:12:53,358 --> 01:12:54,192 us well. 1410 01:12:54,192 --> 01:12:54,493 Thank you so much. 1411 01:12:54,493 --> 01:12:54,826 [Applause] 1412 01:12:54,826 --> 01:12:55,628 >> thank you. 1413 01:12:55,628 --> 01:12:56,295 Thank you, MR. Chair, for 1414 01:12:56,295 --> 01:12:57,163 sponsoring this very 1415 01:12:57,163 --> 01:12:59,163 important presentation. 1416 01:13:19,850 --> 01:13:19,419 There is no way to thank 1417 01:13:19,419 --> 01:13:20,860 you all. 1418 01:13:20,860 --> 01:13:21,200 What you do is selfless. 1419 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:21,754 You deploy every single 1420 01:13:21,754 --> 01:13:22,210 day to serve our 1421 01:13:22,210 --> 01:13:22,522 community. 1422 01:13:22,522 --> 01:13:23,550 As they stay when folks 1423 01:13:23,550 --> 01:13:23,689 are running away from an 1424 01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:24,156 emergency and danger, you 1425 01:13:24,156 --> 01:13:25,570 all run towards it. 1426 01:13:25,570 --> 01:13:25,726 So there's no way to thank 1427 01:13:25,726 --> 01:13:26,493 you all for you do and to 1428 01:13:26,493 --> 01:13:27,930 thank you or families for 1429 01:13:27,930 --> 01:13:27,727 the sacrifices they do 1430 01:13:27,727 --> 01:13:28,628 every day to keep us safe. 1431 01:13:28,628 --> 01:13:29,950 So thank you for serving 1432 01:13:29,950 --> 01:13:29,696 in this way. 1433 01:13:29,696 --> 01:13:30,630 Thank you for going over 1434 01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:31,497 to venezuela during this 1435 01:13:31,497 --> 01:13:32,498 tragedy and thank you for 1436 01:13:32,498 --> 01:13:33,320 serving our community of 1437 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:33,566 miami-dade county. 1438 01:13:33,566 --> 01:13:33,866 Thank you so much. 1439 01:13:33,866 --> 01:13:34,500 [Applause] 1440 01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:35,168 >> I want to thank the 1441 01:13:35,168 --> 01:13:35,669 chair for putting this 1442 01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:36,336 together. 1443 01:13:36,336 --> 01:13:36,737 Guys, we're recognizing 1444 01:13:36,737 --> 01:13:38,370 you today. 1445 01:13:38,370 --> 01:13:41,637 But I know that you don't 1446 01:13:42,475 --> 01:13:43,343 do it for the recognition. 1447 01:13:43,343 --> 01:13:43,610 Because you're built 1448 01:13:43,610 --> 01:13:45,440 different. 1449 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:47,114 You represent the best 1450 01:13:47,114 --> 01:13:49,114 part of humanity. 1451 01:13:50,316 --> 01:13:52,716 after jesus is ascended 1452 01:14:00,594 --> 01:14:01,161 into heaven, the disciples 1453 01:14:01,161 --> 01:14:01,895 are left ear, right? 1454 01:14:01,895 --> 01:14:02,563 And then you have peter 1455 01:14:02,563 --> 01:14:03,960 and john that they are 1456 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,131 walking towards pentecost. 1457 01:14:04,131 --> 01:14:05,566 They were walking and they 1458 01:14:05,566 --> 01:14:06,200 see a disabled beggar. 1459 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,200 And the guy is literally 1460 01:14:10,738 --> 01:14:11,305 sitting in front of the 1461 01:14:11,305 --> 01:14:12,390 temple asking for money 1462 01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:15,390 and then peter looks at 1463 01:14:15,377 --> 01:14:16,111 him and he says money I 1464 01:14:16,111 --> 01:14:16,544 don't have to give you. 1465 01:14:16,544 --> 01:14:18,780 But I will give you 1466 01:14:18,780 --> 01:14:21,682 everything I have in the 1467 01:14:21,682 --> 01:14:21,983 name of my lord jesus 1468 01:14:21,983 --> 01:14:23,983 christ. 1469 01:14:27,222 --> 01:14:27,989 And he tells him get up 1470 01:14:27,989 --> 01:14:28,656 and walk and the guy jumps 1471 01:14:28,656 --> 01:14:29,257 up and he sprints into the 1472 01:14:29,257 --> 01:14:30,892 temple and he talks about 1473 01:14:30,892 --> 01:14:33,292 the great things that 1474 01:14:40,135 --> 01:14:43,135 peter through jesus -- why 1475 01:14:44,238 --> 01:14:44,438 do I bring up the story of 1476 01:14:44,438 --> 01:14:45,206 peter? 1477 01:14:45,206 --> 01:14:46,410 Because you guys give up 1478 01:14:46,410 --> 01:14:46,575 everything you have every 1479 01:14:46,575 --> 01:14:47,309 single day, and it's not 1480 01:14:47,309 --> 01:14:47,943 just you. 1481 01:14:47,943 --> 01:14:50,412 It's a talent that GOD 1482 01:14:50,412 --> 01:14:52,412 gave you. 1483 01:14:54,482 --> 01:14:55,830 It's hard to. 1484 01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:55,985 You're willing to lay down 1485 01:14:55,985 --> 01:14:56,619 every single day, and it 1486 01:14:56,619 --> 01:14:59,619 doesn't matter if it's for 1487 01:15:00,155 --> 01:15:00,823 folks in venezuela, 1488 01:15:00,823 --> 01:15:02,823 residents in miami-dade 1489 01:15:03,580 --> 01:15:05,458 county, new york, chicago, 1490 01:15:07,130 --> 01:15:07,964 you do it for humankind 1491 01:15:07,964 --> 01:15:08,431 because that's how you're 1492 01:15:08,431 --> 01:15:09,650 built and that's an 1493 01:15:09,650 --> 01:15:11,650 example you're always 1494 01:15:12,268 --> 01:15:12,801 setting, and for that we 1495 01:15:12,801 --> 01:15:13,635 will always thank you. 1496 01:15:13,635 --> 01:15:16,635 These are one of many 1497 01:15:17,473 --> 01:15:18,740 awards you'll probably get 1498 01:15:18,740 --> 01:15:18,908 in your career and your 1499 01:15:18,908 --> 01:15:19,842 life, but you have to 1500 01:15:19,842 --> 01:15:20,510 sometimes sit back and 1501 01:15:20,510 --> 01:15:22,510 accept those accolades 1502 01:15:28,818 --> 01:15:29,318 because we appreciate you 1503 01:15:29,318 --> 01:15:29,752 and love you so much. 1504 01:15:29,752 --> 01:15:30,253 Thank you. 1505 01:15:30,253 --> 01:15:30,553 MR. Chair? 1506 01:15:30,553 --> 01:15:31,287 [Applause] 1507 01:15:31,287 --> 01:15:32,155 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 1508 01:15:32,155 --> 01:15:35,155 hold it just a second. 1509 01:15:38,610 --> 01:15:38,761 We are going to hear fromm 1510 01:15:38,761 --> 01:15:39,595 our mayor then chief webb, 1511 01:15:39,595 --> 01:15:40,163 do a presentation, and 1512 01:15:40,163 --> 01:15:40,363 then call everybody up as 1513 01:15:40,363 --> 01:15:40,697 well. 1514 01:15:40,697 --> 01:15:41,364 MADAME Mayor? 1515 01:15:41,364 --> 01:15:42,165 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 1516 01:15:42,165 --> 01:15:42,832 thank you, MR. Chair, and 1517 01:15:42,832 --> 01:15:43,332 thank you for making the 1518 01:15:43,332 --> 01:15:43,799 time for this very 1519 01:15:43,799 --> 01:15:45,268 important tribute. 1520 01:15:45,268 --> 01:15:45,936 I was eight months into my 1521 01:15:45,936 --> 01:15:49,506 first term as mayor when I 1522 01:15:49,506 --> 01:15:52,209 saw you in the action. 1523 01:15:52,209 --> 01:15:52,442 A lesson I will never ever 1524 01:15:52,442 --> 01:15:54,442 forget. 1525 01:15:56,981 --> 01:15:57,815 That is when I realized 1526 01:15:57,815 --> 01:16:00,317 this is not a job, this is 1527 01:16:00,317 --> 01:16:01,785 a calling. 1528 01:16:01,785 --> 01:16:04,185 Being a firefighter, of 1529 01:16:04,221 --> 01:16:06,221 course, very respected. 1530 01:16:07,658 --> 01:16:07,858 So many want to join the 1531 01:16:07,858 --> 01:16:08,727 ranks. 1532 01:16:08,727 --> 01:16:09,293 On top of that, to be our 1533 01:16:09,293 --> 01:16:12,293 florida task force one and 1534 01:16:12,396 --> 01:16:15,396 to stand up and help 1535 01:16:19,470 --> 01:16:20,370 without cease when 1536 01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:20,605 disaster strikes. 1537 01:16:20,605 --> 01:16:21,372 That's who you are. 1538 01:16:21,372 --> 01:16:22,730 It's in your bones, it's 1539 01:16:22,730 --> 01:16:24,730 in your blood. 1540 01:16:26,110 --> 01:16:26,645 As I said then and I saw 1541 01:16:26,645 --> 01:16:27,378 it in venezuela in the 1542 01:16:27,378 --> 01:16:27,912 clips, we have to tear you 1543 01:16:27,912 --> 01:16:30,312 off the piles because 1544 01:16:30,949 --> 01:16:31,582 you're so motivated to do 1545 01:16:31,582 --> 01:16:33,982 everything in your power 1546 01:16:42,427 --> 01:16:42,927 to help with the rescue, 1547 01:16:42,927 --> 01:16:43,528 with recovery, with 1548 01:16:43,528 --> 01:16:44,128 providing hope to those 1549 01:16:44,128 --> 01:16:44,595 who are in a moment of 1550 01:16:44,595 --> 01:16:45,464 total despair. 1551 01:16:45,464 --> 01:16:47,733 i know this job is not 1552 01:16:47,733 --> 01:16:48,660 easy, but you wanted it. 1553 01:16:48,660 --> 01:16:48,800 You sought it. 1554 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,569 We work together with our 1555 01:16:50,569 --> 01:16:52,570 state department to ensure 1556 01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:53,271 you could be the very 1557 01:16:53,271 --> 01:16:56,871 first to go on behalf of 1558 01:16:59,645 --> 01:16:59,912 our nation to help our 1559 01:16:59,912 --> 01:17:00,212 neighbors. 1560 01:17:00,212 --> 01:17:01,460 Ou do this 1561 01:17:01,460 --> 01:17:01,513 work not just for here at 1562 01:17:01,513 --> 01:17:03,480 home, but around the 1563 01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:05,484 world, as has been said. 1564 01:17:05,484 --> 01:17:05,785 This tragedy is beyond any 1565 01:17:05,785 --> 01:17:07,785 imaginable. 1566 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,120 We're up to over 5000 1567 01:17:15,662 --> 01:17:16,262 identified as lost and 1568 01:17:16,262 --> 01:17:17,163 still so many missing. 1569 01:17:17,163 --> 01:17:19,398 And the, what do they say, 1570 01:17:19,398 --> 01:17:19,865 10,000 serve sites was a 1571 01:17:19,865 --> 01:17:21,600 quote that I saw. 1572 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,135 So we know that it affects 1573 01:17:23,135 --> 01:17:26,735 you as well and we are 1574 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:28,808 here for you. 1575 01:17:28,808 --> 01:17:32,545 I am proud that you have a 1576 01:17:32,545 --> 01:17:36,145 great chief who is not a 1577 01:17:38,786 --> 01:17:38,962 part of usar. He was, he 1578 01:17:38,962 --> 01:17:40,787 is. 1579 01:17:40,787 --> 01:17:40,987 Sorry about that. 1580 01:17:40,987 --> 01:17:42,987 Okay. 1581 01:17:47,694 --> 01:17:48,295 But he's not ot jumping 1582 01:17:48,295 --> 01:17:49,290 out of the planes anymore. 1583 01:17:49,290 --> 01:17:52,290 Ut he is leaving with 1584 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,990 that same passion, that 1585 01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:53,633 same integrity, that same 1586 01:17:53,633 --> 01:17:56,330 dedication to never give 1587 01:17:57,370 --> 01:17:57,404 up while we need to fight 1588 01:17:57,404 --> 01:17:58,380 the fight. 1589 01:17:58,380 --> 01:18:01,638 And also for those of you 1590 01:18:04,477 --> 01:18:05,178 who served fighting the 1591 01:18:05,178 --> 01:18:05,980 fires in the everglades, 1592 01:18:05,980 --> 01:18:06,580 which I know is a good 1593 01:18:06,580 --> 01:18:07,648 number of you, that is 1594 01:18:07,648 --> 01:18:08,249 another good exhaust 1595 01:18:08,249 --> 01:18:10,649 disaster that you tackled 1596 01:18:13,253 --> 01:18:13,820 with the same success. 1597 01:18:13,820 --> 01:18:17,420 Thank you on behalf of all 1598 01:18:21,561 --> 01:18:22,263 of us and e going to give 1599 01:18:22,263 --> 01:18:22,797 it to our chief, task 1600 01:18:22,797 --> 01:18:24,797 force one florida. 1601 01:18:36,144 --> 01:18:36,778 [Laughter] [Applause] 1602 01:18:36,778 --> 01:18:37,312 >> good morning, ladies 1603 01:18:37,312 --> 01:18:37,879 and gentlemen. 1604 01:18:37,879 --> 01:18:38,713 Great crowd here. 1605 01:18:38,713 --> 01:18:39,313 First and foremost, 1606 01:18:39,313 --> 01:18:39,914 members of the great 1607 01:18:39,914 --> 01:18:40,681 commission, thank you for 1608 01:18:40,681 --> 01:18:41,282 the recognition of 1609 01:18:41,282 --> 01:18:41,716 miami-dade rescue search 1610 01:18:41,716 --> 01:18:43,716 team. 1611 01:18:46,521 --> 01:18:46,721 Commissioner, you said it 1612 01:18:46,721 --> 01:18:47,522 best. 1613 01:18:47,522 --> 01:18:48,523 One, we don't do this job 1614 01:18:48,523 --> 01:18:49,900 for the recognition, for 1615 01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:49,758 the accolades, but for 1616 01:18:49,758 --> 01:18:52,158 today, the 80 members, and 1617 01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:54,929 I know it's just a 1618 01:18:54,929 --> 01:18:55,864 fraction here today, but 1619 01:18:55,864 --> 01:18:56,732 the members of the florida 1620 01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:58,834 task force one and the six 1621 01:18:58,834 --> 01:18:59,668 canines that did respond, 1622 01:18:59,668 --> 01:19:00,335 another round of applause 1623 01:19:00,335 --> 01:19:03,935 because day in day out for 1624 01:19:06,542 --> 01:19:07,176 24 hours for eight days 1625 01:19:07,176 --> 01:19:07,910 they did respond search 1626 01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:08,544 and rescue operations. 1627 01:19:08,544 --> 01:19:09,211 Yes, MADAME Mayor, I 1628 01:19:09,211 --> 01:19:09,644 didn't get deployed on 1629 01:19:09,644 --> 01:19:10,212 this one. 1630 01:19:10,212 --> 01:19:12,247 There was this little 1631 01:19:12,247 --> 01:19:13,116 thing called fifa going on 1632 01:19:13,116 --> 01:19:16,716 that I had to stick around 1633 01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:27,997 and make sure. 1634 01:19:27,997 --> 01:19:28,431 Yeah. 1635 01:19:28,431 --> 01:19:29,650 Just a whole thing. 1636 01:19:29,650 --> 01:19:29,832 But what I do want to 1637 01:19:29,832 --> 01:19:30,433 mention is for 41 years 1638 01:19:30,433 --> 01:19:31,670 miami-dade fire and rescue 1639 01:19:31,670 --> 01:19:31,934 has been answering the 1640 01:19:31,934 --> 01:19:32,367 call for urban search and 1641 01:19:32,367 --> 01:19:32,868 rescue. 1642 01:19:32,868 --> 01:19:33,502 41 years we have been 1643 01:19:33,502 --> 01:19:35,502 responding to local, 1644 01:19:35,639 --> 01:19:36,306 state, nationally, and 1645 01:19:36,306 --> 01:19:36,873 international disasters 1646 01:19:36,873 --> 01:19:37,607 man-made and, of course, 1647 01:19:37,607 --> 01:19:38,274 you know, the natural 1648 01:19:38,274 --> 01:19:40,274 disasters. 1649 01:19:41,911 --> 01:19:42,244 This one is a special one 1650 01:19:42,244 --> 01:19:42,745 for us. 1651 01:19:42,745 --> 01:19:43,445 e requested to 1652 01:19:43,445 --> 01:19:44,680 go to venezuela because we 1653 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,516 have so many venezuelan 1654 01:19:46,516 --> 01:19:48,916 members of this community 1655 01:19:56,193 --> 01:19:56,460 and we asked to get 1656 01:19:56,460 --> 01:19:57,127 deployed. 1657 01:19:57,127 --> 01:19:57,761 They gave us the green 1658 01:19:57,761 --> 01:19:58,395 light, and while the 1659 01:19:58,395 --> 01:19:59,162 members of florida task 1660 01:19:59,162 --> 01:19:59,696 force one were conducting 1661 01:19:59,696 --> 01:20:01,696 search and rescue 1662 01:20:06,570 --> 01:20:07,271 operations conducting 1663 01:20:07,271 --> 01:20:08,720 structural engineering of 1664 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:08,706 the buildings that had 1665 01:20:08,706 --> 01:20:09,606 collapsed, rendering 1666 01:20:09,606 --> 01:20:10,207 medical care to those that 1667 01:20:10,207 --> 01:20:12,607 were injured, here while 1668 01:20:20,718 --> 01:20:21,585 they were abroad, here 1669 01:20:21,585 --> 01:20:22,119 locally we were assisting 1670 01:20:22,119 --> 01:20:22,786 with the warehouses with 1671 01:20:22,786 --> 01:20:23,354 the logistics and getting 1672 01:20:23,354 --> 01:20:23,854 the goods that were 1673 01:20:23,854 --> 01:20:24,721 necessary to get to 1674 01:20:24,721 --> 01:20:25,389 venezuela so with that, I 1675 01:20:25,389 --> 01:20:25,589 want to say a job well 1676 01:20:25,589 --> 01:20:26,290 done. 1677 01:20:26,290 --> 01:20:26,957 Keep your heads up high, 1678 01:20:26,957 --> 01:20:27,824 and to the members of our 1679 01:20:27,824 --> 01:20:28,392 great commission, MADAME 1680 01:20:28,392 --> 01:20:30,792 Mayor, thank you for 1681 01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:33,596 championing public safety, 1682 01:20:33,596 --> 01:20:34,363 but on behalf of 1683 01:20:34,363 --> 01:20:36,363 miami-dade fire and 1684 01:20:43,706 --> 01:20:44,500 rescue, thank you. 1685 01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:44,473 [Applause] 1686 01:20:44,473 --> 01:20:44,974 >> all right. 1687 01:20:44,974 --> 01:20:45,207 Thank you, chief, for 1688 01:20:45,207 --> 01:20:46,241 that. 1689 01:20:46,241 --> 01:20:47,209 Go ahead and present the 1690 01:20:47,209 --> 01:20:47,509 official proclamation for 1691 01:20:47,509 --> 01:20:49,211 chief webb. 1692 01:20:49,211 --> 01:20:49,811 All of us to you guys and 1693 01:20:49,811 --> 01:20:52,811 then chief, we want to 1694 01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:55,583 hear a couple of words. 1695 01:20:55,583 --> 01:20:55,850 I know you have a lot to 1696 01:20:55,850 --> 01:20:56,718 say. 1697 01:20:56,718 --> 01:20:57,352 I'm messing with you. 1698 01:20:57,352 --> 01:20:57,819 Be it resolved that on 1699 01:20:57,819 --> 01:21:00,219 behalf of the mayor, 1700 01:21:03,924 --> 01:21:06,924 levine cava, my -- myself 1701 01:21:17,504 --> 01:21:17,971 and miami-dade county and 1702 01:21:17,971 --> 01:21:18,604 plus or minus its 1703 01:21:18,604 --> 01:21:19,405 residents, we do hereby 1704 01:21:19,405 --> 01:21:19,973 proclaim JULY 21, 2026, as 1705 01:21:19,973 --> 01:21:20,639 miami-dade search and 1706 01:21:20,639 --> 01:21:21,407 rescue team florida task 1707 01:21:21,407 --> 01:21:22,475 force one day. 1708 01:21:22,475 --> 01:21:24,475 Congratulations, chief. 1709 01:21:28,647 --> 01:21:29,148 Use] 1710 01:21:29,148 --> 01:21:31,820 >> good morning. 1711 01:21:31,820 --> 01:21:34,820 So humbly I would describe 1712 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:43,528 to you this group as 1713 01:21:43,528 --> 01:21:43,961 humble servants and myself 1714 01:21:43,961 --> 01:21:44,596 among them. 1715 01:21:44,596 --> 01:21:45,396 I am very humble and very 1716 01:21:45,396 --> 01:21:45,997 proud to represent all of 1717 01:21:45,997 --> 01:21:46,864 the folks that are here 1718 01:21:46,864 --> 01:21:49,264 today and we recognize 1719 01:21:49,467 --> 01:21:51,680 that a lot of people would 1720 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,268 go out and do what we do 1721 01:22:03,246 --> 01:22:04,800 and many would not, but it 1722 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:04,714 is a matter of pride and 1723 01:22:04,714 --> 01:22:05,348 privilege that we get to 1724 01:22:05,348 --> 01:22:06,315 go out and represent all 1725 01:22:06,315 --> 01:22:06,849 of you and the citizens of 1726 01:22:06,849 --> 01:22:07,617 the united states. 1727 01:22:07,617 --> 01:22:08,284 In trying to alleviate 1728 01:22:08,284 --> 01:22:10,153 human suffering wherever 1729 01:22:10,153 --> 01:22:10,820 we can, right, many times 1730 01:22:10,820 --> 01:22:14,420 we're asked why do we go 1731 01:22:30,437 --> 01:22:30,605 to other cities around the 1732 01:22:30,605 --> 01:22:31,238 us? 1733 01:22:31,238 --> 01:22:31,906 Why do we go outside the 1734 01:22:31,906 --> 01:22:32,473 country to assist other 1735 01:22:32,473 --> 01:22:32,673 people when our job is 1736 01:22:32,673 --> 01:22:33,441 here? 1737 01:22:33,441 --> 01:22:33,976 And the reason for that is 1738 01:22:33,976 --> 01:22:34,542 that we developed the 1739 01:22:34,542 --> 01:22:35,443 knowledge, skills, 1740 01:22:35,443 --> 01:22:36,760 ability, and the comfort 1741 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:36,677 level at other people's 1742 01:22:36,677 --> 01:22:37,578 disasters that we bring 1743 01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:39,978 back to miami-dade county 1744 01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:43,716 and our challenge that if 1745 01:22:43,716 --> 01:22:44,517 we were to have a disaster 1746 01:22:44,517 --> 01:22:45,518 here that this group of 1747 01:22:45,518 --> 01:22:46,520 people have seen and done 1748 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:46,586 things outside of the 1749 01:22:46,586 --> 01:22:47,287 community that we can 1750 01:22:47,287 --> 01:22:48,154 manage just about anything 1751 01:22:48,154 --> 01:22:50,554 here comfortably on behalf 1752 01:23:02,167 --> 01:23:02,701 of the citizens of 1753 01:23:02,701 --> 01:23:03,268 miami-dade county. 1754 01:23:03,268 --> 01:23:04,169 So with that, I want to 1755 01:23:04,169 --> 01:23:04,870 thank the chief, chief 1756 01:23:04,870 --> 01:23:05,737 palmer, MADAME Mayor, all 1757 01:23:05,737 --> 01:23:06,371 the elected officials for 1758 01:23:06,371 --> 01:23:06,939 continuing to allow us to 1759 01:23:06,939 --> 01:23:07,739 do what we do because 1760 01:23:07,739 --> 01:23:08,407 we're proud to represent 1761 01:23:08,407 --> 01:23:09,700 and we're proud to go out 1762 01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:09,374 and do it, so thank you 1763 01:23:09,374 --> 01:23:09,841 very much. 1764 01:23:09,841 --> 01:23:10,142 Chief? 1765 01:23:10,142 --> 01:23:10,475 [Applause] 1766 01:23:10,475 --> 01:23:11,900 >> all right. 1767 01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:14,900 We're going to do one 1768 01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:18,816 photo with the folks up 1769 01:23:18,816 --> 01:23:19,316 here and then I'd like to 1770 01:23:19,316 --> 01:23:19,950 get, I know there's a 1771 01:23:19,950 --> 01:23:20,751 couple of you, but would 1772 01:23:20,751 --> 01:23:21,151 like to get as many in the 1773 01:23:21,151 --> 01:23:21,786 photo as well. 1774 01:23:21,786 --> 01:23:24,186 With these folks, godfrey? 1775 01:23:24,254 --> 01:23:24,855 There you go. 1776 01:23:24,855 --> 01:23:25,456 Godfrey, from now on 1777 01:23:25,456 --> 01:23:28,456 you're in charge, so let 1778 01:23:31,661 --> 01:23:32,562 us know where to stand. 1779 01:23:32,562 --> 01:23:33,960 >> all right, can you 1780 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:34,164 shuffle this way? 1781 01:23:34,164 --> 01:23:34,664 Please shuffle this way? 1782 01:23:34,664 --> 01:23:36,664 Yes, perfect. 1783 01:23:38,935 --> 01:23:40,935 Thank you. 1784 01:23:54,215 --> 01:23:56,215 All right. 1785 01:23:56,651 --> 01:23:59,510 Big smiles, big smiles. 1786 01:24:00,221 --> 01:24:02,621 Right here, big smiles. 1787 01:24:03,858 --> 01:24:05,858 One, two. 1788 01:24:29,348 --> 01:24:32,348 >> I'm sorry, if you can 1789 01:24:32,818 --> 01:24:34,520 step back. 1790 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,920 Dogs in the front. 1791 01:24:41,826 --> 01:24:44,226 Dogs in the front. 1792 01:24:48,132 --> 01:24:51,732 You have room in the back? 1793 01:25:26,167 --> 01:25:28,167 All right. 1794 01:25:31,105 --> 01:25:31,639 Let's go right here, let's 1795 01:25:31,639 --> 01:25:33,639 go right here. 1796 01:25:33,641 --> 01:25:33,841 Step back, step back, step 1797 01:25:33,841 --> 01:25:35,109 back. 1798 01:25:35,109 --> 01:25:38,109 Big smile, big smile, big 1799 01:25:38,979 --> 01:25:40,979 smile. 1800 01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:43,851 And one more. 1801 01:25:43,851 --> 01:25:45,851 macaroni and -- 1802 01:25:47,687 --> 01:25:49,687 >> cheese. 1803 01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:52,790 [Laughter] 1804 01:26:39,135 --> 01:26:41,135 >> ready, everybody? 1805 01:26:47,976 --> 01:26:48,811 One, two, three. 1806 01:26:48,811 --> 01:26:51,211 >> thank you guys for 1807 01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:56,950 everything. 1808 01:27:00,155 --> 01:27:02,555 Family, any other family? 1809 01:27:06,194 --> 01:27:09,964 Can we have you go on this 1810 01:27:09,964 --> 01:27:11,964 side? 1811 01:27:15,902 --> 01:27:17,902 [Music] 1812 01:32:56,670 --> 01:32:58,670 >> MADAME Mayor? 1813 01:33:06,911 --> 01:33:07,545 MADAME Mayor? 1814 01:33:07,545 --> 01:33:08,413 Airport, cport, adrian. 1815 01:33:08,413 --> 01:33:09,781 [Laughter] All right, 1816 01:33:09,781 --> 01:33:12,781 let's take a seat, guys. 1817 01:33:17,823 --> 01:33:18,230 Let's get this show on the 1818 01:33:18,230 --> 01:33:18,489 road. 1819 01:33:18,489 --> 01:33:20,489 >> good morning. 1820 01:33:24,362 --> 01:33:24,829 All right. 1821 01:33:24,829 --> 01:33:25,330 Thank you all. 1822 01:33:25,330 --> 01:33:26,432 If we can please as 1823 01:33:26,432 --> 01:33:28,832 quietly as possible stand 1824 01:33:41,346 --> 01:33:41,914 for the invocation given 1825 01:33:41,914 --> 01:33:42,581 this morning by father 1826 01:33:42,581 --> 01:33:43,315 manwell of our lady of 11 1827 01:33:43,315 --> 01:33:43,915 nine maronite catholic 1828 01:33:43,915 --> 01:33:44,816 church of miami at the 1829 01:33:44,816 --> 01:33:45,317 invitation of commissioner 1830 01:33:45,317 --> 01:33:46,519 lopez followed by the 1831 01:33:46,519 --> 01:33:47,190 pledge of allegiance by 1832 01:33:47,190 --> 01:33:48,200 commissioner lopez. 1833 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:48,654 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, board of 1834 01:33:48,654 --> 01:33:50,654 commissioners, thank you 1835 01:33:56,195 --> 01:33:56,963 for the invitation, 1836 01:33:56,963 --> 01:33:57,163 especially commissioner 1837 01:33:57,163 --> 01:33:59,163 lopez. 1838 01:34:12,178 --> 01:34:12,845 Et us pray. 1839 01:34:12,845 --> 01:34:13,713 Almighty GOD, source of 1840 01:34:13,713 --> 01:34:14,347 all wisdom and justice, we 1841 01:34:14,347 --> 01:34:15,181 thank you for the gift of 1842 01:34:15,181 --> 01:34:16,316 this day and for the 1843 01:34:16,316 --> 01:34:16,583 opportunity to serve our 1844 01:34:16,583 --> 01:34:17,317 community. 1845 01:34:17,317 --> 01:34:18,840 We ask you to bless the 1846 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:18,851 members of this board with 1847 01:34:18,851 --> 01:34:19,319 wisdom in their 1848 01:34:19,319 --> 01:34:19,819 deliberations and 1849 01:34:19,819 --> 01:34:21,819 integrity in their 1850 01:34:35,469 --> 01:34:36,303 decisions, courage to 1851 01:34:36,303 --> 01:34:36,937 pursue what is right and 1852 01:34:36,937 --> 01:34:37,771 courage for every person 1853 01:34:37,771 --> 01:34:38,720 whose life is affected by 1854 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:38,772 their work. 1855 01:34:38,772 --> 01:34:39,473 Help us to remember that 1856 01:34:39,473 --> 01:34:40,340 every person possesses 1857 01:34:40,340 --> 01:34:41,700 inherent dignity and 1858 01:34:41,700 --> 01:34:42,800 deserves to be treated 1859 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:42,876 with respect and fairness. 1860 01:34:42,876 --> 01:34:43,377 MAY our differences become 1861 01:34:43,377 --> 01:34:45,145 opportunities for 1862 01:34:45,145 --> 01:34:45,746 dialogue, our challenges 1863 01:34:45,746 --> 01:34:46,280 become occasions for 1864 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,181 cooperation, and our 1865 01:34:47,181 --> 01:34:47,948 shared responsibilities 1866 01:34:47,948 --> 01:34:48,849 lead to the flourishing of 1867 01:34:48,849 --> 01:34:49,490 all who call this county 1868 01:34:49,490 --> 01:34:51,490 home. 1869 01:34:51,251 --> 01:34:51,752 Grant these our neighbors 1870 01:34:51,752 --> 01:34:52,720 and neighborhoods. 1871 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,423 Thanks to those who serve 1872 01:34:55,423 --> 01:34:57,225 the public, comfort to 1873 01:34:57,225 --> 01:35:00,225 those who suffer and hope 1874 01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:03,664 to all who seek a better 1875 01:35:03,664 --> 01:35:04,465 future. 1876 01:35:04,465 --> 01:35:07,465 And as everything said and 1877 01:35:09,637 --> 01:35:10,104 done today contribute to 1878 01:35:10,104 --> 01:35:10,938 the common good. 1879 01:35:10,938 --> 01:35:13,941 We bless you oh lord jesus 1880 01:35:13,941 --> 01:35:14,442 christ now and forever. 1881 01:35:14,442 --> 01:35:16,442 Amen. 1882 01:35:23,151 --> 01:35:23,851 >> I pledge allegiance to 1883 01:35:23,851 --> 01:35:24,385 the united states of 1884 01:35:24,385 --> 01:35:24,986 america and to the 1885 01:35:24,986 --> 01:35:25,654 republic for which it 1886 01:35:25,654 --> 01:35:28,540 stands, one nation under 1887 01:35:28,924 --> 01:35:29,457 GOD, indivisible, with 1888 01:35:29,457 --> 01:35:29,624 liberty and justice for 1889 01:35:29,624 --> 01:35:30,580 all. 1890 01:35:30,580 --> 01:35:32,580 >> all right. 1891 01:35:33,194 --> 01:35:36,194 You all MAY be seated. 1892 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:38,600 All right. 1893 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,134 Please find a seat if 1894 01:35:39,134 --> 01:35:41,534 you're in the back. 1895 01:35:53,916 --> 01:35:54,583 There should be no one 1896 01:35:54,583 --> 01:35:55,351 standing up in the back 1897 01:35:55,351 --> 01:35:55,918 unless you are media or 1898 01:35:55,918 --> 01:35:56,352 sergeant-at-arms or law 1899 01:35:56,352 --> 01:35:56,619 enforcement. 1900 01:35:56,619 --> 01:35:57,386 All right. 1901 01:35:57,386 --> 01:35:57,787 madame attorney. 1902 01:35:57,787 --> 01:35:58,487 Good morning, all. 1903 01:35:58,487 --> 01:35:59,188 We have what appears to be 1904 01:35:59,188 --> 01:36:01,588 a lengthy meeting today, 1905 01:36:03,910 --> 01:36:03,592 so let's keep that in mind 1906 01:36:03,592 --> 01:36:03,959 as we move the meeting 1907 01:36:03,959 --> 01:36:04,593 forward. 1908 01:36:04,593 --> 01:36:05,494 MADAME Attorney, in order 1909 01:36:05,494 --> 01:36:06,463 for me to move into 1910 01:36:06,463 --> 01:36:07,630 reasonable opportunity for 1911 01:36:07,630 --> 01:36:07,564 the public to be heard at 1912 01:36:07,564 --> 01:36:08,498 this time? 1913 01:36:08,498 --> 01:36:08,664 >> good morning. 1914 01:36:08,664 --> 01:36:09,265 Yes. 1915 01:36:09,265 --> 01:36:09,599 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 1916 01:36:09,599 --> 01:36:11,599 all right. 1917 01:36:23,746 --> 01:36:24,480 I'm gonna been it up for 1918 01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:25,214 reasonable opportunity for 1919 01:36:25,214 --> 01:36:25,716 the public to be heard. 1920 01:36:25,716 --> 01:36:25,949 Id I do roll call 1921 01:36:25,949 --> 01:36:26,316 already? 1922 01:36:26,316 --> 01:36:26,917 I did not. 1923 01:36:26,917 --> 01:36:27,450 I'm that fast. 1924 01:36:27,450 --> 01:36:28,385 Let's do roll call. 1925 01:36:28,385 --> 01:36:29,352 >> good morning to all. 1926 01:36:29,352 --> 01:36:29,886 The clerk's office has 1927 01:36:29,886 --> 01:36:30,453 been notified that 1928 01:36:30,453 --> 01:36:31,540 commissioner hardemon 1929 01:36:31,540 --> 01:36:31,854 will be absent from 1930 01:36:31,854 --> 01:36:32,555 today's meeting. 1931 01:36:32,555 --> 01:36:33,323 Commissioner bastien. 1932 01:36:33,323 --> 01:36:33,523 >> Marleine Bastien: 1933 01:36:33,523 --> 01:36:34,524 here. 1934 01:36:34,524 --> 01:36:34,958 >> commissioner bermudez. 1935 01:36:34,958 --> 01:36:36,958 >> here. 1936 01:36:39,630 --> 01:36:40,230 >> senator garcia. 1937 01:36:40,230 --> 01:36:41,231 Commissioner gilbert. 1938 01:36:41,231 --> 01:36:42,265 >> Oliver Gilbert: here. 1939 01:36:42,265 --> 01:36:43,132 >> commissioner gonzalez. 1940 01:36:43,132 --> 01:36:43,333 >> Roberto Gonzalez: 1941 01:36:43,333 --> 01:36:45,333 here. 1942 01:36:50,540 --> 01:36:51,608 >> commissioner orbis. 1943 01:36:51,608 --> 01:36:52,209 Commissioner steinberg. 1944 01:36:52,209 --> 01:36:52,809 Vice-CHAIRMAN Mcghee. 1945 01:36:52,809 --> 01:36:54,809 CHAIRMAN Rodriguez. 1946 01:37:06,991 --> 01:37:07,258 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 1947 01:37:07,258 --> 01:37:07,959 I'm here. 1948 01:37:07,959 --> 01:37:08,192 >> we have nine members 1949 01:37:08,192 --> 01:37:08,626 present. 1950 01:37:08,626 --> 01:37:09,527 We have a quorum. 1951 01:37:09,527 --> 01:37:10,194 >> so now reasonable 1952 01:37:10,194 --> 01:37:10,694 opportunity for the public 1953 01:37:10,694 --> 01:37:11,529 to be heard is open. 1954 01:37:11,529 --> 01:37:12,196 I will call your name. 1955 01:37:12,196 --> 01:37:13,164 Please state the item you 1956 01:37:13,164 --> 01:37:13,831 are speaking on and your 1957 01:37:13,831 --> 01:37:14,632 name and address and we 1958 01:37:14,632 --> 01:37:18,232 have a fairly long list of 1959 01:37:25,911 --> 01:37:26,578 speakers. 1960 01:37:26,578 --> 01:37:27,512 And we have -- all right. 1961 01:37:27,512 --> 01:37:27,746 We are trying to get 1962 01:37:27,746 --> 01:37:28,280 people. 1963 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:28,947 Some of us are trying to 1964 01:37:28,947 --> 01:37:29,714 skip the line of 1965 01:37:29,714 --> 01:37:30,548 reasonable opportunity, we 1966 01:37:30,548 --> 01:37:30,949 are not going to do that 1967 01:37:30,949 --> 01:37:32,949 right now. 1968 01:37:38,824 --> 01:37:39,424 First up I have 1969 01:37:39,424 --> 01:37:39,625 commissioner tran back 1970 01:37:39,625 --> 01:37:40,325 here. 1971 01:37:40,325 --> 01:37:43,925 Please line up on the side 1972 01:37:49,368 --> 01:37:49,668 of the rows and approach 1973 01:37:49,668 --> 01:37:50,502 of the well. 1974 01:37:50,502 --> 01:37:51,336 I have sergeant kelly, 1975 01:37:51,336 --> 01:37:52,400 miles davis, mary atkins 1976 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:52,871 durrant, peter marino, 1977 01:37:52,871 --> 01:37:54,871 eleanor quigley? 1978 01:37:56,943 --> 01:37:58,943 John elizabeth, laura 1979 01:38:01,313 --> 01:38:03,313 reynolds, fernando -- 1980 01:38:07,553 --> 01:38:07,887 [Listing names] 1981 01:38:07,887 --> 01:38:09,887 Commissioner. 1982 01:38:09,955 --> 01:38:11,955 >> Public Speaker: good 1983 01:38:18,598 --> 01:38:18,932 morning, commissioners and 1984 01:38:18,932 --> 01:38:19,700 MADAME Mayor. 1985 01:38:19,700 --> 01:38:20,633 I represent district 4 in 1986 01:38:20,633 --> 01:38:21,200 the city of miami which 1987 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:21,701 includes close to 1 mile 1988 01:38:21,701 --> 01:38:22,635 of lupton trail. 1989 01:38:22,635 --> 01:38:23,236 I'm here today to thank 1990 01:38:23,236 --> 01:38:25,236 commissioner orbis and 1991 01:38:25,405 --> 01:38:26,239 mayor levine cava for 1992 01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:28,342 sponsoring a selection for 1993 01:38:28,342 --> 01:38:28,542 design firm to get -- 1994 01:38:28,542 --> 01:38:30,542 built. 1995 01:39:29,638 --> 01:39:30,505 This project is something 1996 01:39:30,505 --> 01:39:31,138 that's been a dream for 1997 01:39:31,138 --> 01:39:31,506 many people for many 1998 01:39:31,506 --> 01:39:32,400 years. 1999 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:32,607 I'm excited to see this 2000 01:39:32,607 --> 01:39:32,807 moving forward at the 2001 01:39:32,807 --> 01:39:33,308 city. 2002 01:39:33,308 --> 01:39:34,175 We are doing our part. 2003 01:39:34,175 --> 01:39:35,760 We are approving second 2004 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:35,744 reading, and item that 2005 01:39:35,744 --> 01:39:36,512 incentivizes developers 2006 01:39:36,512 --> 01:39:37,178 building within walking 2007 01:39:37,178 --> 01:39:38,800 distance of the trail and 2008 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:38,780 other trails within the 2009 01:39:38,780 --> 01:39:39,581 cities to contribute 2010 01:39:39,581 --> 01:39:40,282 dollars for construction 2011 01:39:40,282 --> 01:39:40,849 and maintenance. 2012 01:39:40,849 --> 01:39:41,750 More importantly, today, I 2013 01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:42,651 am personally committing 2014 01:39:42,651 --> 01:39:43,251 on behalf of the city and 2015 01:39:43,251 --> 01:39:44,686 development community 2016 01:39:44,686 --> 01:39:45,587 within the trail corridor 2017 01:39:45,587 --> 01:39:46,121 area that we will match 2018 01:39:46,121 --> 01:39:46,689 your county, state, and 2019 01:39:46,689 --> 01:39:47,356 federal dollars to the 2020 01:39:47,356 --> 01:39:48,190 project with the city and 2021 01:39:48,190 --> 01:39:48,524 private dollars so we can 2022 01:39:48,524 --> 01:39:49,291 get it built. 2023 01:39:49,291 --> 01:39:49,825 I urge you to vote on 14 a 2024 01:39:49,825 --> 01:39:50,759 3. Let's get it done. 2025 01:39:50,759 --> 01:39:51,930 >> thank you, 2026 01:39:51,930 --> 01:39:51,993 commissioner. 2027 01:39:51,993 --> 01:39:52,727 And anyone that registered 2028 01:39:52,727 --> 01:39:53,261 to speak but doesn't 2029 01:39:53,261 --> 01:39:53,895 necessarily need to 2030 01:39:53,895 --> 01:39:54,429 anymore, feel free to just 2031 01:39:54,429 --> 01:39:54,662 wave in support or 2032 01:39:54,662 --> 01:39:54,829 whatnot. 2033 01:39:54,829 --> 01:39:55,731 Ir? 2034 01:39:55,731 --> 01:39:56,432 >> Public Speaker: yes, 2035 01:39:56,432 --> 01:39:56,899 sergeant kelly, west palm 2036 01:39:56,899 --> 01:39:57,733 beach. 2037 01:39:57,733 --> 01:39:58,234 I want to urge you guys to 2038 01:39:58,234 --> 01:39:59,201 vote against the kelly 2039 01:39:59,201 --> 01:39:59,735 tractor development in the 2040 01:39:59,735 --> 01:40:00,402 everglades, historical 2041 01:40:00,402 --> 01:40:01,270 everglades, function 2042 01:40:01,270 --> 01:40:01,803 everglades something that 2043 01:40:01,803 --> 01:40:02,771 protects thousands of 2044 01:40:02,771 --> 01:40:03,380 acres of everglades, 2045 01:40:03,380 --> 01:40:04,373 farmland. 2046 01:40:04,373 --> 01:40:05,400 There's homestead miami, 2047 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:05,842 rural communities, crops, 2048 01:40:05,842 --> 01:40:06,509 all this stuff would be 2049 01:40:06,509 --> 01:40:07,477 threatened by allowing 2050 01:40:07,477 --> 01:40:08,440 kelly tractor to be one of 2051 01:40:08,440 --> 01:40:08,611 the initial ones to build 2052 01:40:08,611 --> 01:40:09,178 in the everglades. 2053 01:40:09,178 --> 01:40:09,879 It is a huge problem. 2054 01:40:09,879 --> 01:40:10,513 We know you guys have 2055 01:40:10,513 --> 01:40:11,147 gotten money for packs 2056 01:40:11,147 --> 01:40:11,881 related to kelly tractor. 2057 01:40:11,881 --> 01:40:12,381 We urge you to vote 2058 01:40:12,381 --> 01:40:13,382 against it. 2059 01:40:13,382 --> 01:40:13,949 There's plenty of land 2060 01:40:13,949 --> 01:40:14,816 within the urban 2061 01:40:14,816 --> 01:40:15,385 designation of miami and 2062 01:40:15,385 --> 01:40:15,585 homestead in this whole 2063 01:40:15,585 --> 01:40:16,319 area. 2064 01:40:16,319 --> 01:40:16,986 The gators, herons, 2065 01:40:16,986 --> 01:40:17,887 manatees, the wildlife of 2066 01:40:17,887 --> 01:40:18,488 the everglades should not 2067 01:40:18,488 --> 01:40:18,955 be impeded by another 2068 01:40:18,955 --> 01:40:19,789 development that has 2069 01:40:19,789 --> 01:40:20,289 further stressed the urban 2070 01:40:20,289 --> 01:40:20,923 boundary, which is 2071 01:40:20,923 --> 01:40:21,557 something that the voters 2072 01:40:21,557 --> 01:40:21,791 passed, that the people 2073 01:40:21,791 --> 01:40:23,791 support. 2074 01:40:31,267 --> 01:40:31,868 Obviously wild 2075 01:40:31,868 --> 01:40:32,835 florida supports it as 2076 01:40:32,835 --> 01:40:33,436 well and it should not be 2077 01:40:33,436 --> 01:40:34,360 impeded for the sake of 2078 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:34,804 one company to begin a 2079 01:40:34,804 --> 01:40:35,405 tidal wave that will be 2080 01:40:35,405 --> 01:40:36,206 followed by other 2081 01:40:36,206 --> 01:40:36,739 companies either by direct 2082 01:40:36,739 --> 01:40:37,140 lawsuit or your 2083 01:40:37,140 --> 01:40:37,708 invitation. 2084 01:40:37,708 --> 01:40:38,575 Once again, please vote 2085 01:40:38,575 --> 01:40:39,309 against kelly tractor's 2086 01:40:39,309 --> 01:40:39,676 everglades development. 2087 01:40:39,676 --> 01:40:40,343 Thank you. 2088 01:40:40,343 --> 01:40:40,910 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2089 01:40:40,910 --> 01:40:41,377 thank you, sir. 2090 01:40:41,377 --> 01:40:43,377 All right, john? 2091 01:40:46,917 --> 01:40:47,384 >> good morning, CHAIRMAN, 2092 01:40:47,384 --> 01:40:48,285 MADAME Meggers. 2093 01:40:48,285 --> 01:40:48,585 My name is john allemande 2094 01:40:48,585 --> 01:40:49,386 with jacobs. 2095 01:40:49,386 --> 01:40:51,121 I'm here on 14 b 1. Jacobs 2096 01:40:51,121 --> 01:40:51,755 of had the pleasure of 2097 01:40:51,755 --> 01:40:54,755 serving -- we have served 2098 01:41:01,198 --> 01:41:02,660 as your owners rep nd I'm 2099 01:41:02,660 --> 01:41:02,633 here today with 2100 01:41:02,633 --> 01:41:03,534 representatives of the 2101 01:41:03,534 --> 01:41:04,134 broader engineering, 2102 01:41:04,134 --> 01:41:05,350 construction, and small 2103 01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:07,350 business community that 2104 01:41:46,612 --> 01:41:47,346 helps deliver the critical 2105 01:41:47,346 --> 01:41:48,146 instructional program, and 2106 01:41:48,146 --> 01:41:48,347 I ask them to please 2107 01:41:48,347 --> 01:41:48,613 stand. 2108 01:41:48,613 --> 01:41:49,615 Thank you. 2109 01:41:49,615 --> 01:41:50,115 We appreciate that rate 2110 01:41:50,115 --> 01:41:50,649 decisions are difficult. 2111 01:41:50,649 --> 01:41:51,382 Every year this board 2112 01:41:51,382 --> 01:41:52,183 balances affordability 2113 01:41:52,183 --> 01:41:53,151 with the responsibility to 2114 01:41:53,151 --> 01:41:53,852 maintain critical systems 2115 01:41:53,852 --> 01:41:54,586 that residents, 2116 01:41:54,586 --> 01:41:55,219 businesses, senators, and 2117 01:41:55,219 --> 01:41:55,654 future development all 2118 01:41:55,654 --> 01:41:56,221 depend on. 2119 01:41:56,221 --> 01:41:56,755 Reliable water and 2120 01:41:56,755 --> 01:41:57,656 wastewater services you 2121 01:41:57,656 --> 01:41:58,290 know is essential to 2122 01:41:58,290 --> 01:41:59,191 protect public health, 2123 01:41:59,191 --> 01:41:59,792 protect the bay, housing, 2124 01:41:59,792 --> 01:42:00,693 growth, and the daily 2125 01:42:00,693 --> 01:42:01,426 quality of life for every 2126 01:42:01,426 --> 01:42:01,693 person in miami-dade 2127 01:42:01,693 --> 01:42:02,594 county. 2128 01:42:02,594 --> 01:42:03,161 Miami-dade is advancing 2129 01:42:03,161 --> 01:42:03,829 one of the largest water 2130 01:42:03,829 --> 01:42:04,362 and wastewater capital 2131 01:42:04,362 --> 01:42:05,197 programs in florida. 2132 01:42:05,197 --> 01:42:06,966 While that program does 2133 01:42:06,966 --> 01:42:07,700 support engineering, 2134 01:42:07,700 --> 01:42:08,568 construction, suppliers, 2135 01:42:08,568 --> 01:42:09,135 small businesses, and a 2136 01:42:09,135 --> 01:42:09,735 skilled workforce in 2137 01:42:09,735 --> 01:42:10,536 florida, more importantly, 2138 01:42:10,536 --> 01:42:11,360 it keeps projects -- 2139 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:11,337 before they become 2140 01:42:11,337 --> 01:42:12,370 emergencies. 2141 01:42:12,370 --> 01:42:12,538 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2142 01:42:12,538 --> 01:42:12,738 you're done. 2143 01:42:12,738 --> 01:42:12,905 Sorry. 2144 01:42:12,905 --> 01:42:13,639 Sir? 2145 01:42:13,639 --> 01:42:14,606 >> good morning, my name 2146 01:42:14,606 --> 01:42:15,408 is peter and I represent 2147 01:42:15,408 --> 01:42:16,750 friends of loveland trail, 2148 01:42:16,750 --> 01:42:16,509 a group advocating for 2149 01:42:16,509 --> 01:42:17,430 linear park on the 2150 01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:17,410 abandoned railway 2151 01:42:17,410 --> 01:42:18,440 property. 2152 01:42:18,440 --> 01:42:18,678 The property is 100 feet 2153 01:42:18,678 --> 01:42:19,479 wide by 5.6 miles running 2154 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:19,978 from miami international 2155 01:42:19,978 --> 01:42:20,546 airport. 2156 01:42:20,546 --> 01:42:21,113 We have the opportunity to 2157 01:42:21,113 --> 01:42:21,714 turn over 70 acres of the 2158 01:42:21,714 --> 01:42:22,815 fenced off green space 2159 01:42:22,815 --> 01:42:23,515 into an iconic linear 2160 01:42:23,515 --> 01:42:23,716 greenway in the heart of 2161 01:42:23,716 --> 01:42:24,383 miami. 2162 01:42:24,383 --> 01:42:25,384 I ask that you pass the 2163 01:42:25,384 --> 01:42:27,384 resolution approving the 2164 01:42:49,342 --> 01:42:49,609 contract for professional 2165 01:42:49,609 --> 01:42:50,444 services. 2166 01:42:50,444 --> 01:42:51,440 At first, I thought the 2167 01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:51,845 budget was very high for 2168 01:42:51,845 --> 01:42:52,345 this project, but then I 2169 01:42:52,345 --> 01:42:52,645 read the entire 2170 01:42:52,645 --> 01:42:53,346 resolution. 2171 01:42:53,346 --> 01:42:54,470 This five year 2172 01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:54,848 professional services 2173 01:42:54,848 --> 01:42:55,348 agreement covers design, 2174 01:42:55,348 --> 01:42:55,883 permitting, bidding 2175 01:42:55,883 --> 01:42:56,650 assistance, and 2176 01:42:56,650 --> 01:42:57,484 construction oversight. 2177 01:42:57,484 --> 01:42:57,984 This is a comprehensive 2178 01:42:57,984 --> 01:42:58,452 design through 2179 01:42:58,452 --> 01:42:59,119 construction 2180 01:42:59,119 --> 01:42:59,987 administration, contract 2181 01:42:59,987 --> 01:43:00,521 and substantial project 2182 01:43:00,521 --> 01:43:01,221 management duties. 2183 01:43:01,221 --> 01:43:01,821 Expectations are high and 2184 01:43:01,821 --> 01:43:02,556 friends of loveland trail 2185 01:43:02,556 --> 01:43:02,856 will keep the vendor 2186 01:43:02,856 --> 01:43:04,230 accountable. 2187 01:43:04,230 --> 01:43:04,591 This is a huge opportunity 2188 01:43:04,591 --> 01:43:04,791 for miami to get this 2189 01:43:04,791 --> 01:43:05,560 right. 2190 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:06,160 The trail will connect 2191 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:06,694 neighborhoods with five 2192 01:43:06,694 --> 01:43:07,595 schools, three parks 2193 01:43:07,595 --> 01:43:08,162 adjacent to the trail, and 2194 01:43:08,162 --> 01:43:10,562 terminates in the south 2195 01:43:16,404 --> 01:43:16,938 where it meets the north 2196 01:43:16,938 --> 01:43:17,839 metrorail station. 2197 01:43:17,839 --> 01:43:18,339 Once completed, the trail 2198 01:43:18,339 --> 01:43:18,973 will connect more than 2199 01:43:18,973 --> 01:43:19,540 34,000 residents that live 2200 01:43:19,540 --> 01:43:20,207 on or near the trail. 2201 01:43:20,207 --> 01:43:20,474 it will be a world-class 2202 01:43:20,474 --> 01:43:21,175 -- 2203 01:43:21,175 --> 01:43:21,742 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2204 01:43:21,742 --> 01:43:22,900 thank you, sir. 2205 01:43:22,900 --> 01:43:22,209 Thank you. 2206 01:43:22,209 --> 01:43:23,770 Ma'am? 2207 01:43:23,770 --> 01:43:25,770 >> laura reynolds, 6820 2208 01:43:26,114 --> 01:43:26,781 sw. 64th court with the 2209 01:43:26,781 --> 01:43:27,715 hold the line coalition 2210 01:43:27,715 --> 01:43:30,715 and friends of biscay bay. 2211 01:43:33,521 --> 01:43:34,288 A lot of items to talk 2212 01:43:34,288 --> 01:43:34,922 about in just a minute, 2213 01:43:34,922 --> 01:43:35,289 but we applaud the effort 2214 01:43:35,289 --> 01:43:36,324 on 11 a 11. 2215 01:43:36,324 --> 01:43:38,324 Commissioner regalado 2216 01:43:44,565 --> 01:43:45,199 andnd anyone who has 2217 01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:46,670 cosponsored that item. 2218 01:43:46,670 --> 01:43:46,701 We have to close the text 2219 01:43:46,701 --> 01:43:47,569 amendment loophole because 2220 01:43:47,569 --> 01:43:48,170 we can't let developers 2221 01:43:48,170 --> 01:43:50,570 write their own rules. 2222 01:43:54,843 --> 01:43:55,477 Our cdm p is really 2223 01:43:55,477 --> 01:43:56,345 important and the task 2224 01:43:56,345 --> 01:43:57,790 force amendments that are 2225 01:43:57,790 --> 01:43:57,980 coming from the task force 2226 01:43:57,980 --> 01:43:58,580 will strengthen our cdmp. 2227 01:43:58,580 --> 01:44:01,580 We are still opposed to 2228 01:44:26,209 --> 01:44:27,430 the kelly tractorproject. 2229 01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:27,743 We are talking about the 2230 01:44:27,743 --> 01:44:28,278 largest proposed wetland 2231 01:44:28,278 --> 01:44:29,120 destruction in 30 years. 2232 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:29,679 This can't be taken 2233 01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:30,579 lightly and frankly that 2234 01:44:30,579 --> 01:44:30,880 it's gotten this far is 2235 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,647 concerning. 2236 01:44:31,647 --> 01:44:32,810 We should absolutely be 2237 01:44:32,810 --> 01:44:32,782 passing rules to 2238 01:44:32,782 --> 01:44:33,616 strengthen our wetlands, 2239 01:44:33,616 --> 01:44:34,830 to study our wetlands just 2240 01:44:34,830 --> 01:44:34,650 like we did for 2241 01:44:34,650 --> 01:44:35,251 agriculture to see how 2242 01:44:35,251 --> 01:44:36,119 many we need to perform 2243 01:44:36,119 --> 01:44:36,620 those ecosystem services 2244 01:44:36,620 --> 01:44:37,220 moving forward. 2245 01:44:37,220 --> 01:44:37,687 Now the watershed board 2246 01:44:37,687 --> 01:44:38,321 did look at this. 2247 01:44:38,321 --> 01:44:39,890 I urge you today to not 2248 01:44:39,890 --> 01:44:39,789 take this wetland 2249 01:44:39,789 --> 01:44:40,222 destruction lightly. 2250 01:44:40,222 --> 01:44:40,790 Vote no -- 2251 01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:41,157 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2252 01:44:41,157 --> 01:44:43,157 thank you. 2253 01:44:53,803 --> 01:44:54,804 Thank you.. 2254 01:44:54,804 --> 01:44:55,710 >> Public Speaker: a 6% 2255 01:44:55,710 --> 01:44:55,806 increase. 2256 01:44:55,806 --> 01:44:56,600 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2257 01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:56,841 ma'am? 2258 01:44:56,841 --> 01:44:57,740 >> Public Speaker: good 2259 01:44:57,740 --> 01:44:57,841 morning. 2260 01:44:57,841 --> 01:44:58,508 My name is mary aikins and 2261 01:44:58,508 --> 01:44:59,276 I'm here behalf on quality 2262 01:44:59,276 --> 01:44:59,943 florida in support of 2263 01:44:59,943 --> 01:45:00,477 commissioner lopez motion 2264 01:45:00,477 --> 01:45:01,278 6b1 to sir clarification 2265 01:45:01,278 --> 01:45:01,744 on florida's 2266 01:45:01,744 --> 01:45:01,845 anti-diversity law. 2267 01:45:01,845 --> 01:45:02,479 His 2268 01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:03,280 law hasn't even taken 2269 01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:03,947 effect yet, but it's 2270 01:45:03,947 --> 01:45:04,814 already changing decisions 2271 01:45:04,814 --> 01:45:07,814 in city hall's and county 2272 01:45:18,829 --> 01:45:19,290 commissions across the 2273 01:45:19,290 --> 01:45:19,697 state. 2274 01:45:19,697 --> 01:45:20,264 Not because they've been 2275 01:45:20,264 --> 01:45:20,931 told those things must 2276 01:45:20,931 --> 01:45:21,732 end, but because they are 2277 01:45:21,732 --> 01:45:22,299 unsure what the law 2278 01:45:22,299 --> 01:45:22,766 actually requires. 2279 01:45:22,766 --> 01:45:23,801 We've already seen 2280 01:45:23,801 --> 01:45:24,401 proposed cuts affecting 2281 01:45:24,401 --> 01:45:25,302 organizations serving 2282 01:45:25,302 --> 01:45:26,137 black, hispanic, asian, 2283 01:45:26,137 --> 01:45:26,805 and lgbtq floridians 2284 01:45:26,805 --> 01:45:27,405 reversed after it became 2285 01:45:27,405 --> 01:45:28,305 clear that those codes 2286 01:45:28,305 --> 01:45:28,940 were not required by law. 2287 01:45:28,940 --> 01:45:29,474 That's why getting answers 2288 01:45:29,474 --> 01:45:30,408 now matters. 2289 01:45:30,408 --> 01:45:31,342 No community should lose 2290 01:45:31,342 --> 01:45:32,309 something valuable because 2291 01:45:32,309 --> 01:45:32,843 the law was unclear. 2292 01:45:32,843 --> 01:45:34,843 Miami-dade has the 2293 01:45:45,890 --> 01:45:45,524 opportunity to law was 2294 01:45:45,524 --> 01:45:46,324 unclear. 2295 01:45:46,324 --> 01:45:46,792 Miami-dade has the 2296 01:45:46,792 --> 01:45:46,992 opportunity to take a 2297 01:45:46,992 --> 01:45:47,459 step. 2298 01:45:47,459 --> 01:45:47,993 This will help local 2299 01:45:47,993 --> 01:45:48,993 leaders know what is 2300 01:45:48,993 --> 01:45:49,694 required, understand the 2301 01:45:49,694 --> 01:45:50,595 authority they still have, 2302 01:45:50,595 --> 01:45:51,529 and continue serving their 2303 01:45:51,529 --> 01:45:52,530 residence effectively. 2304 01:45:52,530 --> 01:45:53,970 Miami-dade has always been 2305 01:45:53,970 --> 01:45:54,650 strengthened by the many 2306 01:45:54,650 --> 01:45:54,365 communities that call this 2307 01:45:54,365 --> 01:45:55,567 county home. 2308 01:45:55,567 --> 01:45:56,268 Our cultural traditions, 2309 01:45:56,268 --> 01:45:57,200 community partnerships, 2310 01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:57,669 and local organizations 2311 01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:58,503 help make this one of the 2312 01:45:58,503 --> 01:45:58,770 most vibrant places in the 2313 01:45:58,770 --> 01:45:59,538 community. 2314 01:45:59,538 --> 01:46:01,938 Before partnerships and -- 2315 01:46:19,725 --> 01:46:20,225 are changed, residents 2316 01:46:20,225 --> 01:46:20,926 deserve -- when the 2317 01:46:20,926 --> 01:46:21,994 consequences are real and 2318 01:46:21,994 --> 01:46:22,561 important legal questions 2319 01:46:22,561 --> 01:46:23,462 remain unanswered, seeking 2320 01:46:23,462 --> 01:46:23,929 clarity is responsible 2321 01:46:23,929 --> 01:46:24,429 leadership. 2322 01:46:24,429 --> 01:46:25,300 Miami-dade has the 2323 01:46:25,300 --> 01:46:25,565 opportunity to lead by 2324 01:46:25,565 --> 01:46:25,732 asking for that clarity 2325 01:46:25,732 --> 01:46:26,599 now. 2326 01:46:26,599 --> 01:46:27,500 We respectfully ask you to 2327 01:46:27,500 --> 01:46:27,934 support commissioner 2328 01:46:27,934 --> 01:46:28,201 lopez's motion. 2329 01:46:28,201 --> 01:46:29,402 Thank you. 2330 01:46:29,402 --> 01:46:29,969 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2331 01:46:29,969 --> 01:46:30,869 thank you so much, sir? 2332 01:46:30,869 --> 01:46:31,704 >> Public Speaker: good 2333 01:46:31,704 --> 01:46:32,380 morning, chair and 2334 01:46:32,380 --> 01:46:32,605 commissioners. 2335 01:46:32,605 --> 01:46:33,105 I'm here to speak on item 2336 01:46:33,105 --> 01:46:33,305 6b 1. My name is miles 2337 01:46:33,305 --> 01:46:34,600 davis. 2338 01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:34,607 I serve in safe, south 2339 01:46:34,607 --> 01:46:35,374 florida legal organization 2340 01:46:35,374 --> 01:46:35,608 to projecting lgbtqia+ 2341 01:46:35,608 --> 01:46:36,443 people. 2342 01:46:36,443 --> 01:46:40,430 I want to thank you for 2343 01:46:54,294 --> 01:46:54,594 bringing this forward for 2344 01:46:54,594 --> 01:46:55,328 discussion. 2345 01:46:55,328 --> 01:46:55,896 The senate bill creates 2346 01:46:55,896 --> 01:46:56,463 uncertainty about how 2347 01:46:56,463 --> 01:46:57,297 miami-dade MAY continue 2348 01:46:57,297 --> 01:46:57,864 operating partnerships, 2349 01:46:57,864 --> 01:46:58,865 advisory boards, and 2350 01:46:58,865 --> 01:46:59,499 public initiatives that 2351 01:46:59,499 --> 01:46:59,800 serve residents across 2352 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:00,330 this county. 2353 01:47:00,330 --> 01:47:00,834 He county 2354 01:47:00,834 --> 01:47:01,467 should not rush to 2355 01:47:01,467 --> 01:47:02,350 eliminate lawful work 2356 01:47:02,350 --> 01:47:02,903 simply because the statute 2357 01:47:02,903 --> 01:47:03,536 is broad or unclear. 2358 01:47:03,536 --> 01:47:04,404 Doing so could disrupt 2359 01:47:04,404 --> 01:47:05,439 services, waste taxpayer 2360 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:05,940 investments, and weakens 2361 01:47:05,940 --> 01:47:06,273 long-standing 2362 01:47:06,273 --> 01:47:07,410 partnerships. 2363 01:47:07,410 --> 01:47:07,942 We urge the commission to 2364 01:47:07,942 --> 01:47:08,575 instruct the attorney -- 2365 01:47:08,575 --> 01:47:09,443 identify what can legally 2366 01:47:09,443 --> 01:47:11,443 be observed, and 2367 01:47:34,902 --> 01:47:35,904 communicate clearly what 2368 01:47:35,904 --> 01:47:36,504 affected organizations MAY 2369 01:47:36,504 --> 01:47:37,500 experience before any 2370 01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:37,939 changes are made. 2371 01:47:37,939 --> 01:47:38,406 The county should also 2372 01:47:38,406 --> 01:47:39,140 seek judicial 2373 01:47:39,140 --> 01:47:39,641 clarification so decisions 2374 01:47:39,641 --> 01:47:40,441 are based on the law's 2375 01:47:40,441 --> 01:47:41,175 actual requirements and 2376 01:47:41,175 --> 01:47:41,976 not fear or speculation. 2377 01:47:41,976 --> 01:47:42,877 A careful transparent 2378 01:47:42,877 --> 01:47:43,710 approach always protects 2379 01:47:43,710 --> 01:47:44,345 taxpayers and strengthens 2380 01:47:44,345 --> 01:47:44,845 local controls, and most 2381 01:47:44,845 --> 01:47:45,379 portly, will allow 2382 01:47:45,379 --> 01:47:46,248 miami-dade to continue 2383 01:47:46,248 --> 01:47:46,615 serving all residents 2384 01:47:46,615 --> 01:47:47,215 within the law. 2385 01:47:47,215 --> 01:47:48,216 We thank commissioner 2386 01:47:48,216 --> 01:47:48,749 lopez for bringing this 2387 01:47:48,749 --> 01:47:49,250 forward and we thank you 2388 01:47:49,250 --> 01:47:49,584 all for your service to 2389 01:47:49,584 --> 01:47:50,850 the community. 2390 01:47:50,850 --> 01:47:50,885 >> good morning. 2391 01:47:50,885 --> 01:47:51,819 I'm here to support item 2392 01:47:51,819 --> 01:47:52,453 14 b 1. Holding rights 2393 01:47:52,453 --> 01:47:53,321 black today MAY black 2394 01:47:53,321 --> 01:47:53,855 today MAY appear to help 2395 01:47:53,855 --> 01:47:54,589 residents, but the 2396 01:47:54,589 --> 01:47:55,323 unintended consequence 2397 01:47:55,323 --> 01:47:55,858 will be far higher cost 2398 01:47:55,858 --> 01:47:56,458 later shutting down the 2399 01:47:56,458 --> 01:47:57,325 projects is not free. 2400 01:47:57,325 --> 01:47:59,325 Regulatory penalties, 2401 01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:12,708 development moratoriums, 2402 01:48:12,708 --> 01:48:13,208 and facility services that 2403 01:48:13,208 --> 01:48:14,175 miami-dade family and 2404 01:48:14,175 --> 01:48:14,342 businesses depend on every 2405 01:48:14,342 --> 01:48:14,843 day. 2406 01:48:14,843 --> 01:48:15,645 Canceling projects, 2407 01:48:15,645 --> 01:48:16,311 claims, shutdown and 2408 01:48:16,311 --> 01:48:17,179 commission costs, stranded 2409 01:48:17,179 --> 01:48:17,713 assets and lost value from 2410 01:48:17,713 --> 01:48:18,347 works, the county has 2411 01:48:18,347 --> 01:48:19,181 already paid to advance. 2412 01:48:19,181 --> 01:48:19,848 Projects and designs that 2413 01:48:19,848 --> 01:48:20,683 are put on hold will cost 2414 01:48:20,683 --> 01:48:21,650 more in the future, not 2415 01:48:21,650 --> 01:48:22,217 just higher construction 2416 01:48:22,217 --> 01:48:24,617 costs, but added design 2417 01:48:44,907 --> 01:48:45,442 costs as verify or worse 2418 01:48:45,442 --> 01:48:46,109 if contracts expire and 2419 01:48:46,109 --> 01:48:46,343 new designers start from 2420 01:48:46,343 --> 01:48:46,776 scratch. 2421 01:48:46,776 --> 01:48:47,677 He real threat 2422 01:48:47,677 --> 01:48:48,611 to long-term affordability 2423 01:48:48,611 --> 01:48:48,945 is not this modest rate 2424 01:48:48,945 --> 01:48:49,546 adjustment. 2425 01:48:49,546 --> 01:48:50,112 It is a consequence of 2426 01:48:50,112 --> 01:48:50,313 underfunding the system 2427 01:48:50,313 --> 01:48:51,140 today. 2428 01:48:51,140 --> 01:48:51,648 We respectfully urge the 2429 01:48:51,648 --> 01:48:52,482 commission to approve the 2430 01:48:52,482 --> 01:48:53,116 rate adjustment and keep 2431 01:48:53,116 --> 01:48:54,160 this critical capital 2432 01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:54,584 program moving forward. 2433 01:48:54,584 --> 01:48:55,218 The investment today 2434 01:48:55,218 --> 01:48:56,860 protects the affordability 2435 01:48:56,860 --> 01:48:56,319 of water and sewer in the 2436 01:48:56,319 --> 01:48:56,586 future. 2437 01:48:56,586 --> 01:48:57,220 Thank you. 2438 01:48:57,220 --> 01:48:57,587 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2439 01:48:57,587 --> 01:48:57,788 thank you. 2440 01:48:57,788 --> 01:48:58,521 Ma'am? 2441 01:48:58,521 --> 01:48:59,256 >> good morning. 2442 01:48:59,256 --> 01:49:01,256 Chair and commissioners. 2443 01:49:17,341 --> 01:49:18,309 My name is allie quickly. 2444 01:49:18,309 --> 01:49:19,430 To the commissioners today 2445 01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:19,543 and those that preceded 2446 01:49:19,543 --> 01:49:20,310 you, thank you to her 2447 01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:20,944 vision and dedication you 2448 01:49:20,944 --> 01:49:21,178 underlined making it a 2449 01:49:21,178 --> 01:49:21,979 reality. 2450 01:49:21,979 --> 01:49:22,546 You created a space that 2451 01:49:22,546 --> 01:49:23,347 brings people together 2452 01:49:23,347 --> 01:49:24,810 while creating a safe and 2453 01:49:24,810 --> 01:49:24,881 healthy way for people to 2454 01:49:24,881 --> 01:49:25,516 move through the city. 2455 01:49:25,516 --> 01:49:26,384 I hope that the trail will 2456 01:49:26,384 --> 01:49:26,884 receive the same attention 2457 01:49:26,884 --> 01:49:27,418 for the visitors of 2458 01:49:27,418 --> 01:49:27,985 miami-dade county. 2459 01:49:27,985 --> 01:49:28,920 The trail will be an 2460 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:29,453 important transportation 2461 01:49:29,453 --> 01:49:30,540 affordable corridor 2462 01:49:30,540 --> 01:49:30,921 connecting people to best 2463 01:49:30,921 --> 01:49:31,522 routes at sunset, miller, 2464 01:49:31,522 --> 01:49:32,422 eighth street, flagler 2465 01:49:32,422 --> 01:49:34,822 while providing access to 2466 01:49:35,693 --> 01:49:35,993 the metrorail and the 2467 01:49:35,993 --> 01:49:37,194 underlying. 2468 01:49:37,194 --> 01:49:37,762 It will connect commuters, 2469 01:49:37,762 --> 01:49:38,463 students, shoppers, 2470 01:49:38,463 --> 01:49:39,697 workers, and visitors to 2471 01:49:39,697 --> 01:49:40,364 more safer and convenient 2472 01:49:40,364 --> 01:49:41,231 transportation options 2473 01:49:41,231 --> 01:49:41,932 prefer the trail will also 2474 01:49:41,932 --> 01:49:42,767 serve many important 2475 01:49:42,767 --> 01:49:44,368 community destinations at 2476 01:49:44,368 --> 01:49:44,969 every node including in 2477 01:49:44,969 --> 01:49:45,470 dadeland -- south miami 2478 01:49:45,470 --> 01:49:47,338 middle school magnet, 2479 01:49:47,338 --> 01:49:50,338 senior hi, barnes park for 2480 01:49:54,779 --> 01:49:55,246 the rescue park, robert 2481 01:49:55,246 --> 01:49:55,948 king park, miami -- 2482 01:49:55,948 --> 01:49:56,848 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2483 01:49:56,848 --> 01:49:58,650 thank you. 2484 01:49:58,650 --> 01:49:59,618 >> merchandise park. 2485 01:49:59,618 --> 01:50:00,180 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2486 01:50:00,180 --> 01:50:00,852 thank you so much. 2487 01:50:00,852 --> 01:50:02,453 Ppreciate it. 2488 01:50:02,453 --> 01:50:04,453 Did eciate it. 2489 01:50:09,861 --> 01:50:11,861 Did william. 2490 01:50:14,165 --> 01:50:16,565 Fernando and then everyone 2491 01:50:24,943 --> 01:50:25,545 else] Fernando and then 2492 01:50:25,545 --> 01:50:26,145 everyone else that I'm 2493 01:50:26,145 --> 01:50:27,790 going to call is here for 2494 01:50:27,790 --> 01:50:27,613 the same item 14 b 1. It 2495 01:50:27,613 --> 01:50:28,247 also has four in favor. 2496 01:50:28,247 --> 01:50:28,714 If you want to waive, you 2497 01:50:28,714 --> 01:50:30,714 are welcome to. 2498 01:50:36,589 --> 01:50:37,190 I have. 2499 01:50:37,190 --> 01:50:37,690 Name] Michael perez. 2500 01:50:37,690 --> 01:50:38,591 Michael perez. 2501 01:50:38,591 --> 01:50:38,824 is that you coming down, 2502 01:50:38,824 --> 01:50:39,492 michael? 2503 01:50:39,492 --> 01:50:41,492 All right. 2504 01:50:46,466 --> 01:50:47,133 Sebastian alvarez. 2505 01:50:47,133 --> 01:50:47,867 Sebastian alder is? 2506 01:50:47,867 --> 01:50:48,368 All right, I got you 2507 01:50:48,368 --> 01:50:50,368 waving. 2508 01:50:51,137 --> 01:50:53,137 Joshua alvarez waiving. 2509 01:50:54,740 --> 01:50:56,740 Julian becker? 2510 01:50:56,843 --> 01:50:57,760 Julian? 2511 01:50:57,760 --> 01:50:59,760 Julian. 2512 01:50:59,145 --> 01:51:01,145 Valerie dennett? 2513 01:51:07,870 --> 01:51:09,870 Valerie dennett? 2514 01:51:11,124 --> 01:51:13,124 Aneto fernandez? 2515 01:51:14,961 --> 01:51:16,961 Waiving. Damien jesus. 2516 01:51:18,265 --> 01:51:20,265 Joseph roga. 2517 01:51:20,567 --> 01:51:22,567 Joseph rocha. 2518 01:51:22,936 --> 01:51:24,936 Cardinal alfonso? 2519 01:51:31,412 --> 01:51:31,912 Cardinal difonzo? 2520 01:51:31,912 --> 01:51:32,746 Juan romez? 2521 01:51:32,746 --> 01:51:33,280 >> CHAIRMAN, a lot of 2522 01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:33,580 people are stuck 2523 01:51:33,580 --> 01:51:35,580 downstairs. 2524 01:51:35,883 --> 01:51:36,417 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2525 01:51:36,417 --> 01:51:36,818 thank you for that, 2526 01:51:36,818 --> 01:51:37,452 though. 2527 01:51:37,452 --> 01:51:38,520 Appreciate the public 2528 01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,520 service announcement. 2529 01:51:43,957 --> 01:51:46,357 Juan romez? Juan romez? 2530 01:51:47,295 --> 01:51:49,295 Nicole lozano? Nicole 2531 01:51:55,604 --> 01:51:56,710 lozano? Luis suarez? 2532 01:51:56,710 --> 01:51:57,739 Evelyn rodriguez? 2533 01:51:57,739 --> 01:51:59,739 Maria molina? 2534 01:52:06,582 --> 01:52:07,482 Maria, thank you. 2535 01:52:07,482 --> 01:52:08,150 Arcturo? Okay, and again, 2536 01:52:08,150 --> 01:52:08,716 just to make sure all of 2537 01:52:08,716 --> 01:52:11,716 you guys are waiting in 2538 01:52:14,722 --> 01:52:15,890 support of the wasty 2539 01:52:15,890 --> 01:52:15,290 report. 2540 01:52:15,290 --> 01:52:15,925 Pedro? 2541 01:52:15,925 --> 01:52:17,526 All right. 2542 01:52:17,526 --> 01:52:19,526 Thank you. 2543 01:52:23,980 --> 01:52:23,565 And rick? 2544 01:52:23,565 --> 01:52:24,132 All right. 2545 01:52:24,132 --> 01:52:27,132 Those are all the public 2546 01:52:32,774 --> 01:52:33,809 speakers I have for 2547 01:52:33,809 --> 01:52:34,109 reasonable opportunity 2548 01:52:34,109 --> 01:52:34,910 registered. 2549 01:52:34,910 --> 01:52:35,812 Is there anyone that just 2550 01:52:35,812 --> 01:52:36,446 walked upstairs from 2551 01:52:36,446 --> 01:52:36,979 downstairs that signed up 2552 01:52:36,979 --> 01:52:37,246 to speak? 2553 01:52:37,246 --> 01:52:37,747 See a couple 2554 01:52:37,747 --> 01:52:38,247 of people walking in. 2555 01:52:38,247 --> 01:52:38,981 Is anyone registered to 2556 01:52:38,981 --> 01:52:39,281 speak in reasonable 2557 01:52:39,281 --> 01:52:40,490 opportunity? 2558 01:52:40,490 --> 01:52:41,784 I want to make sure I get 2559 01:52:41,784 --> 01:52:41,951 to you before I close out. 2560 01:52:41,951 --> 01:52:43,718 No? 2561 01:52:43,718 --> 01:52:45,588 All right. 2562 01:52:45,588 --> 01:52:47,490 There's a gentleman? 2563 01:52:47,490 --> 01:52:49,890 You can come up. 2564 01:52:50,726 --> 01:52:52,726 Come on up. 2565 01:52:55,598 --> 01:52:56,299 >> through the chair? 2566 01:52:56,299 --> 01:52:56,700 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2567 01:52:56,700 --> 01:52:57,634 MADAME Mayor? 2568 01:52:57,634 --> 01:52:58,301 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 2569 01:52:58,301 --> 01:52:59,169 apparently COUNCILMAN 2570 01:52:59,169 --> 01:53:02,169 Kevin burns is here that 2571 01:53:03,940 --> 01:53:04,540 wassigned up to speak, so 2572 01:53:04,540 --> 01:53:05,141 I just want to make sure 2573 01:53:05,141 --> 01:53:06,760 you are aware he is here. 2574 01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:06,876 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2575 01:53:06,876 --> 01:53:07,944 but as he signed up to 2576 01:53:07,944 --> 01:53:08,778 speak on public hearing or 2577 01:53:08,778 --> 01:53:09,879 reasonable opportunity? 2578 01:53:09,879 --> 01:53:10,447 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: >> 2579 01:53:10,447 --> 01:53:10,981 Mayor Levine Cava: 2580 01:53:10,981 --> 01:53:11,848 reasonable opportunity. 2581 01:53:11,848 --> 01:53:12,315 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2582 01:53:12,315 --> 01:53:14,484 okay, then you can 2583 01:53:14,484 --> 01:53:14,684 approachh the podium as 2584 01:53:14,684 --> 01:53:16,684 well. 2585 01:53:19,923 --> 01:53:20,557 Approach the well. 2586 01:53:20,557 --> 01:53:20,924 You both can -- there's 2587 01:53:20,924 --> 01:53:21,825 two wells. 2588 01:53:21,825 --> 01:53:23,226 I mean, don't all rush at 2589 01:53:23,226 --> 01:53:23,827 the same time. 2590 01:53:23,827 --> 01:53:26,227 Go ahead, you're up. 2591 01:53:27,197 --> 01:53:28,980 >> Public Speaker: good 2592 01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:28,598 morning, MADAME Mayor and 2593 01:53:28,598 --> 01:53:30,598 commissioners. 2594 01:53:40,778 --> 01:53:41,245 It's great to see a lot of 2595 01:53:41,245 --> 01:53:42,179 you here today. 2596 01:53:42,179 --> 01:53:42,446 I don't very often come 2597 01:53:42,446 --> 01:53:42,980 down here. 2598 01:53:42,980 --> 01:53:43,514 My name is kevin burns, 2599 01:53:43,514 --> 01:53:44,314 COUNCILMAN With the city 2600 01:53:44,314 --> 01:53:45,249 of miami, former mayor. 2601 01:53:45,249 --> 01:53:45,984 i'm here today to support 2602 01:53:45,984 --> 01:53:46,517 commissioner lopez's 2603 01:53:46,517 --> 01:53:48,517 recommendation for a 2604 01:53:56,361 --> 01:53:56,928 judicial review of the 2605 01:53:56,928 --> 01:53:57,495 diversity bill, I'll just 2606 01:53:57,495 --> 01:53:58,630 say that item. 2607 01:53:58,630 --> 01:53:58,797 As somebody who spent four 2608 01:53:58,797 --> 01:53:59,430 or five weeks in 2609 01:53:59,430 --> 01:54:00,265 tallahassee going to the 2610 01:54:00,265 --> 01:54:03,265 hearings both in the house 2611 01:54:03,935 --> 01:54:04,601 and the senate and 2612 01:54:04,601 --> 01:54:05,436 listening to the makers of 2613 01:54:05,436 --> 01:54:06,237 this ordinance, this law 2614 01:54:06,237 --> 01:54:06,705 not be able to answer 2615 01:54:06,705 --> 01:54:07,605 questions of what it 2616 01:54:07,605 --> 01:54:10,500 actually meant, they could 2617 01:54:21,553 --> 01:54:22,287 not answer what they were 2618 01:54:22,287 --> 01:54:23,210 trying to accomplish by 2619 01:54:23,210 --> 01:54:23,655 this law and going from 2620 01:54:23,655 --> 01:54:24,522 the senate and over to the 2621 01:54:24,522 --> 01:54:25,900 house back and forth. 2622 01:54:25,900 --> 01:54:25,724 And you know if a bill has 2623 01:54:25,724 --> 01:54:25,924 24 cutouts that it's not 2624 01:54:25,924 --> 01:54:27,924 good. 2625 01:54:27,993 --> 01:54:28,694 You all add amendments to 2626 01:54:28,694 --> 01:54:29,528 some of your things, but 2627 01:54:29,528 --> 01:54:30,950 you've never done 24 2628 01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:30,562 amendments, so you know 2629 01:54:30,562 --> 01:54:32,562 something is wrong. 2630 01:54:46,777 --> 01:54:47,444 I've been in conference 2631 01:54:47,444 --> 01:54:48,212 calls with city attorneys, 2632 01:54:48,212 --> 01:54:48,979 county attorneys, all 2633 01:54:48,979 --> 01:54:49,880 different organizations 2634 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:50,247 are going to be affected 2635 01:54:50,247 --> 01:54:50,848 by this. 2636 01:54:50,848 --> 01:54:51,548 Nobody can give a clear 2637 01:54:51,548 --> 01:54:52,282 answer of what you can do 2638 01:54:52,282 --> 01:54:53,217 and cannot do and I'll 2639 01:54:53,217 --> 01:54:53,784 tell you right now I don't 2640 01:54:53,784 --> 01:54:54,351 want to be a guinea pig as 2641 01:54:54,351 --> 01:54:54,784 an elected official 2642 01:54:54,784 --> 01:54:57,184 because I gave a 2643 01:55:21,209 --> 01:55:21,810 particular group a 2644 01:55:21,810 --> 01:55:22,644 proclamation supporting 2645 01:55:22,644 --> 01:55:23,144 their heritage, so please 2646 01:55:23,144 --> 01:55:23,277 support their item. 2647 01:55:23,277 --> 01:55:23,445 Hank 2648 01:55:23,445 --> 01:55:24,179 you. 2649 01:55:24,179 --> 01:55:24,446 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2650 01:55:24,446 --> 01:55:25,146 all right. 2651 01:55:25,146 --> 01:55:25,747 i got MR. Ron Mcgill if 2652 01:55:25,747 --> 01:55:26,247 he's -- ron Mcgill, you 2653 01:55:26,247 --> 01:55:26,714 are on the list. 2654 01:55:26,714 --> 01:55:27,381 Come on up, sir. 2655 01:55:27,381 --> 01:55:28,149 I knew you were retiring. 2656 01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:28,349 You see, it was a false 2657 01:55:28,349 --> 01:55:28,983 alarm. 2658 01:55:28,983 --> 01:55:29,650 All right, ma'am. 2659 01:55:29,650 --> 01:55:30,384 >> Public Speaker: hello, 2660 01:55:30,384 --> 01:55:31,185 my name is carol coombs. 2661 01:55:31,185 --> 01:55:31,385 I'm a resident in miami 2662 01:55:31,385 --> 01:55:32,153 beach. 2663 01:55:32,153 --> 01:55:32,687 I also worked for miami 2664 01:55:32,687 --> 01:55:33,387 beach pride as the 2665 01:55:33,387 --> 01:55:34,255 director of grants, so I'm 2666 01:55:34,255 --> 01:55:35,122 actually here today in 2667 01:55:35,122 --> 01:55:35,422 support of commissioner 2668 01:55:35,422 --> 01:55:36,290 vicki lopez. 2669 01:55:36,290 --> 01:55:38,690 I fall under district 5 2670 01:55:42,629 --> 01:55:43,663 and sb 3011 4 and I'm 2671 01:55:43,663 --> 01:55:44,197 asking the commission to 2672 01:55:44,197 --> 01:55:45,165 investigate a lot of do 2673 01:55:45,165 --> 01:55:45,632 not know what's going on 2674 01:55:45,632 --> 01:55:45,759 with this sb 11 34. 2675 01:55:45,759 --> 01:55:46,699 Oes 2676 01:55:46,699 --> 01:55:47,133 a proclamation count as 2677 01:55:47,133 --> 01:55:47,734 promoting di? 2678 01:55:47,734 --> 01:55:48,368 Does a rainbow flag going 2679 01:55:48,368 --> 01:55:51,368 up count as promoting di 2680 01:55:53,272 --> 01:55:53,539 or is that first 2681 01:55:53,539 --> 01:55:54,306 amendment? 2682 01:55:54,306 --> 01:55:54,940 I'm here today because 2683 01:55:54,940 --> 01:55:57,940 miami pride stands to lose 2684 01:56:10,955 --> 01:56:11,823 money and grant funding 2685 01:56:11,823 --> 01:56:12,356 even though its impact is 2686 01:56:12,356 --> 01:56:13,324 granting hundreds and 2687 01:56:13,324 --> 01:56:13,958 hundreds of jobs for small 2688 01:56:13,958 --> 01:56:14,859 businesses in miami beach. 2689 01:56:14,859 --> 01:56:15,326 So my ask is please 2690 01:56:15,326 --> 01:56:15,960 investigate, please 2691 01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:16,794 support vicki lopez's 2692 01:56:16,794 --> 01:56:17,495 district 5 recommendation. 2693 01:56:17,495 --> 01:56:21,695 And I will tell you we are 2694 01:56:32,142 --> 01:56:32,809 brave and resilient in the 2695 01:56:32,809 --> 01:56:33,676 lgbtq community, the 19th 2696 01:56:33,676 --> 01:56:34,277 addition of miami beach 2697 01:56:34,277 --> 01:56:35,144 pride is going to happen. 2698 01:56:35,144 --> 01:56:35,711 The family picnic is on 2699 01:56:35,711 --> 01:56:36,345 saturday, APRIL 3, the 2700 01:56:36,345 --> 01:56:36,779 pride weekend is APRIL 10 2701 01:56:36,779 --> 01:56:37,246 and 11th. 2702 01:56:37,246 --> 01:56:37,913 Lock your dates. 2703 01:56:37,913 --> 01:56:38,181 I'll see you in the 2704 01:56:38,181 --> 01:56:38,881 parade. 2705 01:56:38,881 --> 01:56:39,415 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2706 01:56:39,415 --> 01:56:39,815 thank you so much. 2707 01:56:39,815 --> 01:56:40,850 MR. Mcgill. 2708 01:56:40,850 --> 01:56:41,685 >> Public Speaker: good 2709 01:56:41,685 --> 01:56:42,185 morning, MADAME Mayor. 2710 01:56:42,185 --> 01:56:44,585 Thank you for the 2711 01:56:52,393 --> 01:56:53,294 opportunity to be keer. 2712 01:56:53,294 --> 01:56:53,962 For years I thought the 2713 01:56:53,962 --> 01:56:54,162 flamingo wasn't a native 2714 01:56:54,162 --> 01:56:54,896 bird. 2715 01:56:54,896 --> 01:56:55,397 It wasn't until all the 2716 01:56:55,397 --> 01:56:55,964 hard work done by 2717 01:56:55,964 --> 01:56:56,598 conservationists that they 2718 01:56:56,598 --> 01:56:56,831 said yes, it's a native 2719 01:56:56,831 --> 01:56:57,332 bird. 2720 01:56:57,332 --> 01:56:57,899 Isten, I know I 2721 01:56:57,899 --> 01:56:58,266 got limited time, so 2722 01:56:58,266 --> 01:56:58,432 here's the deal. 2723 01:56:58,432 --> 01:56:59,670 He 2724 01:56:59,670 --> 01:56:59,901 american film ego is more 2725 01:56:59,901 --> 01:57:00,401 than just a beautiful 2726 01:57:00,401 --> 01:57:02,401 bird. 2727 01:57:11,578 --> 01:57:12,790 It's a symbol of 2728 01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:12,846 resilience after 2729 01:57:12,846 --> 01:57:13,313 persecution is a symbol of 2730 01:57:13,313 --> 01:57:14,181 hope. 2731 01:57:14,181 --> 01:57:15,248 After disappearance, it 2732 01:57:15,248 --> 01:57:15,548 represents everything that 2733 01:57:15,548 --> 01:57:16,416 florida is. 2734 01:57:16,416 --> 01:57:17,251 It represents how nature 2735 01:57:17,251 --> 01:57:17,817 can come back, can reclaim 2736 01:57:17,817 --> 01:57:18,118 itself when given the 2737 01:57:18,118 --> 01:57:18,951 opportunity. 2738 01:57:18,951 --> 01:57:19,785 I can think of no other 2739 01:57:19,785 --> 01:57:20,286 bird that better tells 2740 01:57:20,286 --> 01:57:20,820 florida's story. 2741 01:57:20,820 --> 01:57:21,287 If florida wants to 2742 01:57:21,287 --> 01:57:22,550 celebrate its great 2743 01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:24,455 natural heritage, I can 2744 01:57:42,173 --> 01:57:42,707 think of no better 2745 01:57:42,707 --> 01:57:43,207 ambassador than the 2746 01:57:43,207 --> 01:57:44,420 greater flamingo. 2747 01:57:44,420 --> 01:57:44,275 Okay, this bird is 2748 01:57:44,275 --> 01:57:45,420 amazing. 2749 01:57:45,420 --> 01:57:45,610 It's the only -- it's a 2750 01:57:45,610 --> 01:57:46,377 species found only in 2751 01:57:46,377 --> 01:57:46,911 florida as a native 2752 01:57:46,911 --> 01:57:47,244 species, nowhere else in 2753 01:57:47,244 --> 01:57:48,120 the country. 2754 01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:48,679 Is a bird that represents 2755 01:57:48,679 --> 01:57:49,546 the resilience of florida. 2756 01:57:49,546 --> 01:57:50,314 It's everything that -- 2757 01:57:50,314 --> 01:57:50,715 it's just an amazing bird 2758 01:57:50,715 --> 01:57:51,649 that's come back. 2759 01:57:51,649 --> 01:57:52,490 The bottom line is this, 2760 01:57:52,490 --> 01:57:52,716 folks. 2761 01:57:52,716 --> 01:57:53,500 The flamingo has returned 2762 01:57:53,500 --> 01:57:54,840 home. 2763 01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:54,852 It's time for florida to 2764 01:57:54,852 --> 01:57:55,285 celebrate and recognize it 2765 01:57:55,285 --> 01:57:56,120 as one of its own. 2766 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:56,820 Thank you very much. 2767 01:57:56,820 --> 01:57:57,621 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2768 01:57:57,621 --> 01:57:58,689 thank you, rob. 2769 01:57:58,689 --> 01:57:59,156 Appreciate the enthusiasm. 2770 01:57:59,156 --> 01:57:59,689 [Applause] Mama? 2771 01:57:59,689 --> 01:58:00,256 >> Public Speaker: 2772 01:58:00,256 --> 01:58:00,724 probably not gonna be as 2773 01:58:00,724 --> 01:58:01,324 enthusiastic, but 2774 01:58:01,324 --> 01:58:01,858 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2775 01:58:01,858 --> 01:58:02,625 we'll take it. 2776 01:58:02,625 --> 01:58:04,625 >> Public Speaker: my 2777 01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:23,645 address is -- and I'm 2778 01:58:23,645 --> 01:58:24,145 speaking today on behalf 2779 01:58:24,145 --> 01:58:25,460 of biscayne bay -- 2780 01:58:25,460 --> 01:58:25,246 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, point of 2781 01:58:25,246 --> 01:58:26,147 order. 2782 01:58:26,147 --> 01:58:26,681 If we can just have the 2783 01:58:26,681 --> 01:58:27,215 chambers be quiet while 2784 01:58:27,215 --> 01:58:28,490 she's speaking. 2785 01:58:28,490 --> 01:58:29,117 I can barely hear her. 2786 01:58:29,117 --> 01:58:29,450 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: go 2787 01:58:29,450 --> 01:58:30,184 ahead, ma'am. 2788 01:58:30,184 --> 01:58:30,351 >> Public Speaker: thank 2789 01:58:30,351 --> 01:58:31,850 you. 2790 01:58:31,850 --> 01:58:31,419 I'm here to represent 2791 01:58:31,419 --> 01:58:32,119 biscayne bay. 2792 01:58:32,119 --> 01:58:32,820 We recognize that an 2793 01:58:32,820 --> 01:58:33,654 increase in utilities 2794 01:58:33,654 --> 01:58:34,155 affect residents and 2795 01:58:34,155 --> 01:58:34,955 affordability is an 2796 01:58:34,955 --> 01:58:35,656 important consideration, 2797 01:58:35,656 --> 01:58:36,190 but this item is 2798 01:58:36,190 --> 01:58:36,857 ultimately about 2799 01:58:36,857 --> 01:58:39,257 protecting clean water and 2800 01:58:52,872 --> 01:58:53,390 public health in biscayne 2801 01:58:53,390 --> 01:58:53,906 bay. 2802 01:58:53,906 --> 01:58:54,874 The underinvestment in 2803 01:58:54,874 --> 01:58:55,841 water and wastewater 2804 01:58:55,841 --> 01:58:56,475 infrastructure contributed 2805 01:58:56,475 --> 01:58:57,376 to overflows, 2806 01:58:57,376 --> 01:58:57,910 environmental harm to 2807 01:58:57,910 --> 01:58:58,477 biscayne bay, violations 2808 01:58:58,477 --> 01:58:59,144 of the clean water act, 2809 01:58:59,144 --> 01:58:59,578 and ultimately the federal 2810 01:58:59,578 --> 01:59:00,546 consent agree. 2811 01:59:00,546 --> 01:59:01,213 Today, that consent agree 2812 01:59:01,213 --> 01:59:01,614 program is approximately 2813 01:59:01,614 --> 01:59:02,214 89% there. 2814 01:59:02,214 --> 01:59:03,480 We are almost there. 2815 01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:03,515 And it's really not the 2816 01:59:03,515 --> 01:59:04,216 time to slow down. 2817 01:59:04,216 --> 01:59:05,317 Delaying these investments 2818 01:59:05,317 --> 01:59:05,817 does not eliminate costs, 2819 01:59:05,817 --> 01:59:06,217 it increases the 2820 01:59:06,217 --> 01:59:06,918 likelihood of 2821 01:59:06,918 --> 01:59:07,752 infrastructure failures, 2822 01:59:07,752 --> 01:59:08,219 sewage bills, and even 2823 01:59:08,219 --> 01:59:08,540 larger costs in the 2824 01:59:08,540 --> 01:59:08,887 future. 2825 01:59:08,887 --> 01:59:09,721 For the average 2826 01:59:09,721 --> 01:59:10,321 residential customer, the 2827 01:59:10,321 --> 01:59:10,955 proposed adjustment is 2828 01:59:10,955 --> 01:59:12,955 approximately $0.12 per 2829 01:59:13,758 --> 01:59:14,292 day, which is a price to 2830 01:59:14,292 --> 01:59:15,293 pay for clean water. 2831 01:59:15,293 --> 01:59:16,600 It supports the completion 2832 01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:16,394 of critical wastewater 2833 01:59:16,394 --> 01:59:18,394 improvements. 2834 01:59:18,996 --> 01:59:19,563 I respectfully urge you to 2835 01:59:19,563 --> 01:59:20,164 support item 14 b 1. 2836 01:59:20,164 --> 01:59:21,650 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2837 01:59:21,650 --> 01:59:21,632 thank you so much. 2838 01:59:21,632 --> 01:59:25,832 So we were able to get you 2839 01:59:27,771 --> 01:59:28,271 guys up from downstairs. 2840 01:59:28,271 --> 01:59:28,838 Know obviously 2841 01:59:28,838 --> 01:59:29,373 encourage you guys to 2842 01:59:29,373 --> 01:59:32,373 speak, but some of you 2843 01:59:37,179 --> 01:59:37,714 guys did waive in 2844 01:59:37,714 --> 01:59:37,818 support of an item. 2845 01:59:37,818 --> 01:59:38,447 Ou 2846 01:59:38,447 --> 01:59:38,915 have been bamboozled ling 2847 01:59:38,915 --> 01:59:40,215 me here a bit. 2848 01:59:40,215 --> 01:59:43,215 Go ahead, have at it. 2849 01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:45,554 >>MR. CHAIRMAN, as people 2850 01:59:45,554 --> 01:59:46,188 finished speaking, maybe 2851 01:59:46,188 --> 01:59:46,622 it would be wise for them 2852 01:59:46,622 --> 01:59:47,323 to leave -- 2853 01:59:47,323 --> 01:59:48,123 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2854 01:59:48,123 --> 01:59:48,824 they are. 2855 01:59:48,824 --> 01:59:50,792 They are going to be taken 2856 01:59:50,792 --> 01:59:51,126 back downstairs after they 2857 01:59:51,126 --> 01:59:51,459 speak, yes. 2858 01:59:51,459 --> 01:59:53,459 Go ahead, sir. 2859 02:00:10,911 --> 02:00:11,778 >> Public Speaker: hello. 2860 02:00:11,778 --> 02:00:12,120 I live at 5256 nw. Third 2861 02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:12,546 avenue. 2862 02:00:12,546 --> 02:00:13,380 I came here to speak in 2863 02:00:13,380 --> 02:00:14,114 favor of this item, this 2864 02:00:14,114 --> 02:00:14,915 water bill 14 b. Studying 2865 02:00:14,915 --> 02:00:15,882 these water topics are a 2866 02:00:15,882 --> 02:00:16,349 correct and responsible 2867 02:00:16,349 --> 02:00:17,117 use of our tax funds. 2868 02:00:17,117 --> 02:00:17,951 I have seen improvements 2869 02:00:17,951 --> 02:00:20,951 in my city using tax 2870 02:00:22,155 --> 02:00:22,789 funds, so I have no doubt 2871 02:00:22,789 --> 02:00:23,690 that we will be able to 2872 02:00:23,690 --> 02:00:24,390 use these resources to 2873 02:00:24,390 --> 02:00:25,257 improve our water quality, 2874 02:00:25,257 --> 02:00:25,892 research them, make more 2875 02:00:25,892 --> 02:00:26,892 responsible decisions. 2876 02:00:26,892 --> 02:00:28,994 Water quality is paramount 2877 02:00:28,994 --> 02:00:29,528 to our health and wellness 2878 02:00:29,528 --> 02:00:30,290 current and future 2879 02:00:30,290 --> 02:00:30,529 generations. 2880 02:00:30,529 --> 02:00:31,163 It is a human right and 2881 02:00:31,163 --> 02:00:33,163 something so important. 2882 02:00:39,137 --> 02:00:39,604 No corporation or private 2883 02:00:39,604 --> 02:00:40,371 interest can thrive 2884 02:00:40,371 --> 02:00:40,972 without prioritizing the 2885 02:00:40,972 --> 02:00:41,606 genuine needs of human 2886 02:00:41,606 --> 02:00:42,440 rights, which is clean 2887 02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:43,208 water which comes first. 2888 02:00:43,208 --> 02:00:43,974 We all know that wetlands 2889 02:00:43,974 --> 02:00:44,476 provide our freshest water 2890 02:00:44,476 --> 02:00:44,975 source and natural 2891 02:00:44,975 --> 02:00:46,975 filtration for our 2892 02:00:47,110 --> 02:00:49,411 community and you as 2893 02:01:38,459 --> 02:01:39,360 reppert adding the highest 2894 02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:40,600 moral standards, making 2895 02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:40,927 the correct decisions for 2896 02:01:40,927 --> 02:01:41,495 our generations, so I hope 2897 02:01:41,495 --> 02:01:42,463 we can make the best 2898 02:01:42,463 --> 02:01:42,696 decision representing the 2899 02:01:42,696 --> 02:01:43,960 people. 2900 02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:43,564 So thank you. 2901 02:01:43,564 --> 02:01:45,320 thank you so much. 2902 02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:45,399 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2903 02:01:45,399 --> 02:01:46,330 thank you, sir. 2904 02:01:46,330 --> 02:01:46,266 >> Public Speaker: good 2905 02:01:46,266 --> 02:01:46,766 morning. 2906 02:01:46,766 --> 02:01:46,966 I live at 869 sw. 149th 2907 02:01:46,966 --> 02:01:47,634 court. 2908 02:01:47,634 --> 02:01:48,201 I'm here in support of 14 2909 02:01:48,201 --> 02:01:49,690 b 1 because I believe 2910 02:01:49,690 --> 02:01:49,803 studies into our water 2911 02:01:49,803 --> 02:01:50,704 quality and filtration are 2912 02:01:50,704 --> 02:01:51,104 a good use of taxpayer 2913 02:01:51,104 --> 02:01:51,538 dollars. 2914 02:01:51,538 --> 02:01:52,105 Water is something 2915 02:01:52,105 --> 02:01:52,305 essential entirely to 2916 02:01:52,305 --> 02:01:52,772 life. 2917 02:01:52,772 --> 02:01:53,239 We should be doing 2918 02:01:53,239 --> 02:01:54,400 everything we can to 2919 02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:54,674 preserve and multiply, 2920 02:01:54,674 --> 02:01:55,541 especially in our coming 2921 02:01:55,541 --> 02:01:56,309 times of ai technology. 2922 02:01:56,309 --> 02:01:57,143 Improving and improving on 2923 02:01:57,143 --> 02:01:57,743 with so much more hunger 2924 02:01:57,743 --> 02:01:58,377 for our clean drinking 2925 02:01:58,377 --> 02:01:59,145 water, as times move on, 2926 02:01:59,145 --> 02:01:59,779 we lose more and more of 2927 02:01:59,779 --> 02:02:00,579 not only our drinking 2928 02:02:00,579 --> 02:02:01,180 water, but also naturally 2929 02:02:01,180 --> 02:02:02,147 occurring methods of 2930 02:02:02,147 --> 02:02:02,681 filtration like our 2931 02:02:02,681 --> 02:02:03,515 wetlands that act as a 2932 02:02:03,515 --> 02:02:04,149 part of natural water 2933 02:02:04,149 --> 02:02:04,649 management system they 2934 02:02:04,649 --> 02:02:05,250 slow and stormed 2935 02:02:05,250 --> 02:02:05,717 stormwater allowing to 2936 02:02:05,717 --> 02:02:06,518 migrate with 2937 02:02:06,518 --> 02:02:07,850 microorganisms before it 2938 02:02:07,850 --> 02:02:07,719 moves through surrounding 2939 02:02:07,719 --> 02:02:08,286 hydraulic systems like the 2940 02:02:08,286 --> 02:02:09,254 biscayne aquifer also 2941 02:02:09,254 --> 02:02:10,155 known as southwest florida 2942 02:02:10,155 --> 02:02:10,355 primary source of drinking 2943 02:02:10,355 --> 02:02:10,856 water. 2944 02:02:10,856 --> 02:02:11,656 Protecting the natural 2945 02:02:11,656 --> 02:02:12,357 ability of these lands to 2946 02:02:12,357 --> 02:02:13,191 store filter and recharge 2947 02:02:13,191 --> 02:02:13,792 water is especially 2948 02:02:13,792 --> 02:02:14,325 important to water quality 2949 02:02:14,325 --> 02:02:15,226 and quantity. 2950 02:02:15,226 --> 02:02:17,626 I strongly encourage we 2951 02:02:28,138 --> 02:02:29,390 move with 14 b 1. 2952 02:02:29,390 --> 02:02:29,806 >> Public Speaker: good 2953 02:02:29,806 --> 02:02:30,674 morning, commissioners. 2954 02:02:30,674 --> 02:02:31,341 My name is joshua reyes. 2955 02:02:31,341 --> 02:02:32,175 I live in burkle and I'd 2956 02:02:32,175 --> 02:02:32,743 like to voice I'm in favor 2957 02:02:32,743 --> 02:02:33,543 for motion 14 b 1. Stable 2958 02:02:33,543 --> 02:02:34,210 access to clean water 2959 02:02:34,210 --> 02:02:35,440 isn't a privilege, it's a 2960 02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:35,712 natural human right. 2961 02:02:35,712 --> 02:02:38,712 People come from all walks 2962 02:02:40,383 --> 02:02:41,170 of life to have a chance 2963 02:02:41,170 --> 02:02:41,651 to live here in our great 2964 02:02:41,651 --> 02:02:42,451 city, so the least we can 2965 02:02:42,451 --> 02:02:43,520 do is make sure our vital 2966 02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:43,619 source for living is 2967 02:02:43,619 --> 02:02:44,587 available to all, free 2968 02:02:44,587 --> 02:02:45,454 from michael prout sticks 2969 02:02:45,454 --> 02:02:47,454 and other pollutants. 2970 02:02:52,928 --> 02:02:53,462 Research will help -- 2971 02:02:53,462 --> 02:02:54,296 prove that continued 2972 02:02:54,296 --> 02:02:55,163 building past the urban 2973 02:02:55,163 --> 02:02:55,864 development boundary would 2974 02:02:55,864 --> 02:02:56,498 be hazardous for the 2975 02:02:56,498 --> 02:02:57,165 growing future of miami. 2976 02:02:57,165 --> 02:02:57,666 Thank you and happy parks 2977 02:02:57,666 --> 02:02:58,566 and recreation month. 2978 02:02:58,566 --> 02:02:58,966 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 2979 02:02:58,966 --> 02:02:59,434 thank you. 2980 02:02:59,434 --> 02:03:01,434 Go ahead, sir. 2981 02:03:05,173 --> 02:03:05,740 >> Public Speaker: good 2982 02:03:05,740 --> 02:03:06,307 morning. 2983 02:03:06,307 --> 02:03:07,410 Hello, commissioners. 2984 02:03:07,410 --> 02:03:07,675 I'm here in support of 2985 02:03:07,675 --> 02:03:08,509 item 14 b 1. I believe 2986 02:03:08,509 --> 02:03:10,909 that studies on water 2987 02:03:12,179 --> 02:03:13,460 quality are very important 2988 02:03:13,460 --> 02:03:14,800 for the well-being of our 2989 02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:14,548 community and surrounding 2990 02:03:14,548 --> 02:03:15,249 wildlife. 2991 02:03:15,249 --> 02:03:17,649 Structures are being built 2992 02:03:37,436 --> 02:03:38,710 over acres of land 2993 02:03:38,710 --> 02:03:38,537 occupied by precious 2994 02:03:38,537 --> 02:03:39,710 wildlife and the 2995 02:03:39,710 --> 02:03:39,838 structures create 2996 02:03:39,838 --> 02:03:40,372 unnecessary pollutants 2997 02:03:40,372 --> 02:03:40,939 that normally affect the 2998 02:03:40,939 --> 02:03:41,506 wildlife, but our own 2999 02:03:41,506 --> 02:03:42,740 health. 3000 02:03:42,740 --> 02:03:42,640 That's why I'm here to ask 3001 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:43,475 you for your support on 3002 02:03:43,475 --> 02:03:44,242 these issues that are 3003 02:03:44,242 --> 02:03:44,976 incredibly important to me 3004 02:03:44,976 --> 02:03:45,543 and my colleagues. 3005 02:03:45,543 --> 02:03:46,177 Thank you very much for 3006 02:03:46,177 --> 02:03:46,778 your time. 3007 02:03:46,778 --> 02:03:47,450 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3008 02:03:47,450 --> 02:03:47,211 thank you. 3009 02:03:47,211 --> 02:03:48,780 Sir? 3010 02:03:48,780 --> 02:03:49,790 >> Public Speaker: good 3011 02:03:49,790 --> 02:03:49,947 morning, commissioners, 3012 02:03:49,947 --> 02:03:51,490 and a special good morning 3013 02:03:51,490 --> 02:03:51,849 to commissioner regalado. 3014 02:03:51,849 --> 02:03:52,483 I'm here to speak on 3015 02:03:52,483 --> 02:03:53,351 commissioner 14 b as well 3016 02:03:53,351 --> 02:03:54,351 as my friends here to 3017 02:03:54,351 --> 02:03:54,852 speak on water quality and 3018 02:03:54,852 --> 02:03:55,452 the importance of it. 3019 02:03:55,452 --> 02:03:55,986 And I'd also like to 3020 02:03:55,986 --> 02:03:58,986 mention it is a tuesday. 3021 02:04:03,226 --> 02:04:04,270 Sorry, not tuesday. 3022 02:04:04,270 --> 02:04:04,628 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3023 02:04:04,628 --> 02:04:05,595 name and address, please. 3024 02:04:05,595 --> 02:04:06,262 >> Public Speaker: name 3025 02:04:06,262 --> 02:04:06,763 is joseph welcome and I'm 3026 02:04:06,763 --> 02:04:07,497 in west kendall. 3027 02:04:07,497 --> 02:04:07,730 >> we need your actual 3028 02:04:07,730 --> 02:04:09,320 address. 3029 02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:11,320 >> Public Speaker: 1672 3030 02:04:24,813 --> 02:04:25,113 sw. 3031 02:04:25,113 --> 02:04:25,914 51st street. 3032 02:04:25,914 --> 02:04:26,748 The reason I bring up the 3033 02:04:26,748 --> 02:04:27,282 day of the week is it is 3034 02:04:27,282 --> 02:04:27,816 9:00 A.M. In the morning 3035 02:04:27,816 --> 02:04:28,450 and unlike many of the 3036 02:04:28,450 --> 02:04:29,840 people here I have a job 3037 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:29,818 to attend to and have to 3038 02:04:29,818 --> 02:04:30,485 for the sake of my family 3039 02:04:30,485 --> 02:04:31,386 and everybody else here. 3040 02:04:31,386 --> 02:04:32,200 I say that because not 3041 02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:32,654 everybody who I know who 3042 02:04:32,654 --> 02:04:33,554 wanted to be here is here, 3043 02:04:33,554 --> 02:04:35,991 so know that we represent 3044 02:04:35,991 --> 02:04:36,625 a lot more people than 3045 02:04:36,625 --> 02:04:37,358 just the 15 brave souls or 3046 02:04:37,358 --> 02:04:37,926 so that you see here. 3047 02:04:37,926 --> 02:04:38,827 Again, I'm here to speak 3048 02:04:38,827 --> 02:04:42,427 on the fact that the water 3049 02:04:46,368 --> 02:04:47,336 quality as well as our 3050 02:04:47,336 --> 02:04:47,870 wetlands are incredibly 3051 02:04:47,870 --> 02:04:48,871 important to the 3052 02:04:48,871 --> 02:04:49,505 everglades and incredibly 3053 02:04:49,505 --> 02:04:50,105 important to the people of 3054 02:04:50,105 --> 02:04:51,600 miami and the young people 3055 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:51,907 in miami who are a growing 3056 02:04:51,907 --> 02:04:53,175 population, a working 3057 02:04:53,175 --> 02:04:54,900 population, and smart 3058 02:04:54,900 --> 02:04:54,676 population that votes and 3059 02:04:54,676 --> 02:04:55,276 stays active in their 3060 02:04:55,276 --> 02:04:55,811 community, so please keep 3061 02:04:55,811 --> 02:04:56,780 that in mind. 3062 02:04:56,780 --> 02:04:56,779 Thank you. 3063 02:04:56,779 --> 02:04:58,779 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3064 02:05:09,692 --> 02:05:10,626 thank you, sir. 3065 02:05:10,626 --> 02:05:10,959 >> Public Speaker: hello, 3066 02:05:10,959 --> 02:05:11,427 commissioners. 3067 02:05:11,427 --> 02:05:12,228 My name is damien. 3068 02:05:12,228 --> 02:05:13,128 I hope you are all well. 3069 02:05:13,128 --> 02:05:13,762 Me and my friends are here 3070 02:05:13,762 --> 02:05:14,396 today in support of this 3071 02:05:14,396 --> 02:05:16,796 item 14 b 1. Water is 3072 02:05:47,631 --> 02:05:47,931 life, therefore we must 3073 02:05:47,931 --> 02:05:48,665 preserve it. 3074 02:05:48,665 --> 02:05:49,333 Many ai data centers are 3075 02:05:49,333 --> 02:05:49,900 an attack on our resources 3076 02:05:49,900 --> 02:05:50,667 and many water needed to 3077 02:05:50,667 --> 02:05:51,201 run these centers is 3078 02:05:51,201 --> 02:05:51,801 harmful. 3079 02:05:51,801 --> 02:05:52,736 Developing on these lands 3080 02:05:52,736 --> 02:05:52,969 will also affect the water 3081 02:05:52,969 --> 02:05:53,670 quality. 3082 02:05:53,670 --> 02:05:54,304 So please vote yes on this 3083 02:05:54,304 --> 02:05:54,871 item and have the same 3084 02:05:54,871 --> 02:05:55,740 energy for the upcoming 3085 02:05:55,740 --> 02:05:56,340 ones to help preserve our 3086 02:05:56,340 --> 02:05:56,974 lands, animals, and more 3087 02:05:56,974 --> 02:05:57,975 importantly, our water and 3088 02:05:57,975 --> 02:05:58,709 our health for floridians. 3089 02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:59,410 Thank you for your time. 3090 02:05:59,410 --> 02:05:59,910 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3091 02:05:59,910 --> 02:06:00,711 thank you, sir. 3092 02:06:00,711 --> 02:06:01,378 >> good morning, 3093 02:06:01,378 --> 02:06:02,278 commissioners and people 3094 02:06:02,278 --> 02:06:02,779 who represent today. 3095 02:06:02,779 --> 02:06:03,130 My name is. 3096 02:06:03,130 --> 02:06:03,780 [Name]. 3097 02:06:03,780 --> 02:06:04,140 I live at 1150 sw. 14th 3098 02:06:04,140 --> 02:06:04,814 street. 3099 02:06:04,814 --> 02:06:05,415 I came here to comment in 3100 02:06:05,415 --> 02:06:06,317 favor of 14 b 1. I believe 3101 02:06:06,317 --> 02:06:06,817 this is a great use of 3102 02:06:06,817 --> 02:06:07,552 taxpayer money. 3103 02:06:07,552 --> 02:06:09,653 These studies -- just for 3104 02:06:09,653 --> 02:06:10,320 the sake of some money. 3105 02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:10,855 And going over important 3106 02:06:10,855 --> 02:06:11,755 laws that were placed 3107 02:06:11,755 --> 02:06:15,355 there for a reason such as 3108 02:06:24,735 --> 02:06:25,302 the clean water act and 3109 02:06:25,302 --> 02:06:26,137 they put in danger the 3110 02:06:26,137 --> 02:06:27,105 people by leaving the 3111 02:06:27,105 --> 02:06:27,572 company is the biscayne 3112 02:06:27,572 --> 02:06:28,206 aquifer, which is a 3113 02:06:28,206 --> 02:06:28,673 primary source of drinking 3114 02:06:28,673 --> 02:06:28,973 water to 5 million 3115 02:06:28,973 --> 02:06:29,774 floridians. 3116 02:06:29,774 --> 02:06:32,774 This doesn't only hurt the 3117 02:07:13,752 --> 02:07:14,687 people, but also cost 3118 02:07:14,687 --> 02:07:15,220 money to the state because 3119 02:07:15,220 --> 02:07:15,855 they have to replace the 3120 02:07:15,855 --> 02:07:16,356 water that are lost. 3121 02:07:16,356 --> 02:07:17,256 Thank you very much. 3122 02:07:17,256 --> 02:07:17,757 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3123 02:07:17,757 --> 02:07:18,724 thank you, sir. 3124 02:07:18,724 --> 02:07:19,590 >> Public Speaker: hello, 3125 02:07:19,590 --> 02:07:19,859 commissioners. 3126 02:07:19,859 --> 02:07:20,426 My name is michael perez. 3127 02:07:20,426 --> 02:07:20,960 I live at 15330 sw. 155 3128 02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:21,794 court west kendall. 3129 02:07:21,794 --> 02:07:22,728 I'm here in support of 11 3130 02:07:22,728 --> 02:07:23,162 a 1 because water is 3131 02:07:23,162 --> 02:07:23,929 extremely important. 3132 02:07:23,929 --> 02:07:24,563 To all of us young people 3133 02:07:24,563 --> 02:07:25,465 who should appear today, 3134 02:07:25,465 --> 02:07:26,266 it's a key part of our 3135 02:07:26,266 --> 02:07:26,966 politics in florida. 3136 02:07:26,966 --> 02:07:27,233 This study is rather 3137 02:07:27,233 --> 02:07:27,734 important. 3138 02:07:27,734 --> 02:07:28,434 I think it's important 3139 02:07:28,434 --> 02:07:29,680 that our wastewater gets 3140 02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:30,360 studied, water quality 3141 02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:31,300 gets studied because it's 3142 02:07:31,300 --> 02:07:31,504 getting attacked from so 3143 02:07:31,504 --> 02:07:31,971 many sides across the 3144 02:07:31,971 --> 02:07:32,538 county. 3145 02:07:32,538 --> 02:07:33,139 There's so many data 3146 02:07:33,139 --> 02:07:34,140 centers that have been 3147 02:07:34,140 --> 02:07:34,840 approved in miami-dade 3148 02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:35,442 county which are not only 3149 02:07:35,442 --> 02:07:36,176 increasing electric costs, 3150 02:07:36,176 --> 02:07:36,442 but also using water 3151 02:07:36,442 --> 02:07:37,243 resources. 3152 02:07:37,243 --> 02:07:37,744 What happened to 3153 02:07:37,744 --> 02:07:38,678 protecting biscayne bay? 3154 02:07:38,678 --> 02:07:38,945 Halting saltwater 3155 02:07:38,945 --> 02:07:39,513 intrusion. 3156 02:07:39,513 --> 02:07:40,313 We have so much more to 3157 02:07:40,313 --> 02:07:40,947 say and many other items I 3158 02:07:40,947 --> 02:07:41,815 want to speak on today, 3159 02:07:41,815 --> 02:07:42,649 but this is where we are 3160 02:07:42,649 --> 02:07:43,216 putting our energy today. 3161 02:07:43,216 --> 02:07:43,983 Just think for future 3162 02:07:43,983 --> 02:07:44,751 generations, whenever land 3163 02:07:44,751 --> 02:07:45,418 gets paved, lands flood. 3164 02:07:45,418 --> 02:07:46,530 Mpervious surfaces 3165 02:07:46,530 --> 02:07:46,620 affect all of us, 3166 02:07:46,620 --> 02:07:46,987 especially those proximal 3167 02:07:46,987 --> 02:07:48,955 to krome avenue. 3168 02:07:48,955 --> 02:07:49,556 And as seas rise, 3169 02:07:49,556 --> 02:07:50,157 limestone will fill with 3170 02:07:50,157 --> 02:07:50,957 water, so every time we 3171 02:07:50,957 --> 02:07:51,491 have an impervious 3172 02:07:51,491 --> 02:07:52,125 surface, it's going to 3173 02:07:52,125 --> 02:07:52,926 flood a whole lot easier. 3174 02:07:52,926 --> 02:07:53,493 Thank you and have a 3175 02:07:53,493 --> 02:07:54,194 wonderful day. 3176 02:07:54,194 --> 02:07:54,594 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3177 02:07:54,594 --> 02:07:54,794 thank you. 3178 02:07:54,794 --> 02:07:55,596 Ma'am? 3179 02:07:55,596 --> 02:07:56,130 >> Public Speaker: hello 3180 02:07:56,130 --> 02:07:58,130 and good morning. 3181 02:08:06,607 --> 02:08:07,475 My name is nicole speaking 3182 02:08:07,475 --> 02:08:08,900 on behalf of 14 b 1. I'm a 3183 02:08:08,900 --> 02:08:08,842 20-year-old student 3184 02:08:08,842 --> 02:08:09,577 majoring in sustainability 3185 02:08:09,577 --> 02:08:10,444 which is the primary goal 3186 02:08:10,444 --> 02:08:11,440 of sustaining the earth 3187 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:13,440 for future generations 3188 02:08:23,757 --> 02:08:24,391 which this water study 3189 02:08:24,391 --> 02:08:24,825 greatly contributes 3190 02:08:24,825 --> 02:08:25,627 exactly to that. 3191 02:08:25,627 --> 02:08:26,294 Our wetlands in the 3192 02:08:26,294 --> 02:08:27,610 maintenance/tracking of 3193 02:08:27,610 --> 02:08:27,529 the water quality is 3194 02:08:27,529 --> 02:08:28,196 crucial to our lives. 3195 02:08:28,196 --> 02:08:28,830 The wetlands are a main 3196 02:08:28,830 --> 02:08:29,597 source of drinking water 3197 02:08:29,597 --> 02:08:30,231 and without studies such 3198 02:08:30,231 --> 02:08:31,165 as these we wouldn't be 3199 02:08:31,165 --> 02:08:34,765 able to keep up with our 3200 02:08:43,344 --> 02:08:43,644 livelihoods regarding 3201 02:08:43,644 --> 02:08:44,312 freshwater. 3202 02:08:44,312 --> 02:08:44,979 I and many others are in 3203 02:08:44,979 --> 02:08:45,614 favor of taxpayer money 3204 02:08:45,614 --> 02:08:46,448 going towards these water 3205 02:08:46,448 --> 02:08:47,490 studies for the overall 3206 02:08:47,490 --> 02:08:47,382 betterment of our beloved 3207 02:08:47,382 --> 02:08:47,584 everglades. 3208 02:08:47,584 --> 02:08:48,500 Hank you 3209 02:08:48,500 --> 02:08:48,917 very much. 3210 02:08:48,917 --> 02:08:49,551 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3211 02:08:49,551 --> 02:08:50,419 thank you. 3212 02:08:50,419 --> 02:08:50,885 >> Public Speaker: hello, 3213 02:08:50,885 --> 02:08:51,152 commissioners and 3214 02:08:51,152 --> 02:08:51,886 CHAIRMAN. 3215 02:08:51,886 --> 02:08:52,520 My name is sophia myers 3216 02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,520 address -- today I wanted 3217 02:08:59,361 --> 02:09:00,620 to speak on item 5t on the 3218 02:09:00,620 --> 02:09:00,295 importance of affordable 3219 02:09:00,295 --> 02:09:00,596 housing. 3220 02:09:00,596 --> 02:09:01,363 Abitat for 3221 02:09:01,363 --> 02:09:02,331 miami is an organization 3222 02:09:02,331 --> 02:09:02,864 that helps the community 3223 02:09:02,864 --> 02:09:03,565 build affordable housing. 3224 02:09:03,565 --> 02:09:04,365 Big issue in miami is 3225 02:09:04,365 --> 02:09:05,660 how unaffordable 3226 02:09:05,660 --> 02:09:05,300 everything is, especially 3227 02:09:05,300 --> 02:09:05,868 housing. 3228 02:09:05,868 --> 02:09:07,868 Decent 3229 02:09:42,905 --> 02:09:43,873 one-bedroom apartment -- 3230 02:09:43,873 --> 02:09:44,574 including increasing rents 3231 02:09:44,574 --> 02:09:45,609 after lease agreements. 3232 02:09:45,609 --> 02:09:46,510 Many residents face daily 3233 02:09:46,510 --> 02:09:47,110 struggles of skyrocketing 3234 02:09:47,110 --> 02:09:47,678 housing prices that our 3235 02:09:47,678 --> 02:09:48,612 salaries cannot afford. 3236 02:09:48,612 --> 02:09:49,450 There needs to be more 3237 02:09:49,450 --> 02:09:50,113 affordable options 3238 02:09:50,113 --> 02:09:50,580 available for family and 3239 02:09:50,580 --> 02:09:51,114 residents. 3240 02:09:51,114 --> 02:09:51,614 Miami should move towards 3241 02:09:51,614 --> 02:09:52,248 affordability in all 3242 02:09:52,248 --> 02:09:53,490 aspects of life, walk 3243 02:09:53,490 --> 02:09:53,816 ability, accessible 3244 02:09:53,816 --> 02:09:54,951 communities, quality of 3245 02:09:54,951 --> 02:09:55,385 life for our environment. 3246 02:09:55,385 --> 02:09:55,920 Samplings provide 3247 02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:56,620 freshwater, flood 3248 02:09:56,620 --> 02:09:57,487 protection, biodiversity, 3249 02:09:57,487 --> 02:09:58,355 and balance for all of us. 3250 02:09:58,355 --> 02:09:58,956 Developments for housing 3251 02:09:58,956 --> 02:09:59,556 such as kelly track that 3252 02:09:59,556 --> 02:10:00,157 deserved for the rights to 3253 02:10:00,157 --> 02:10:00,957 exist but not at the 3254 02:10:00,957 --> 02:10:01,425 expense and destruction of 3255 02:10:01,425 --> 02:10:01,658 wildlife and vital 3256 02:10:01,658 --> 02:10:02,459 habitat. 3257 02:10:02,459 --> 02:10:03,590 We need our environment 3258 02:10:03,590 --> 02:10:03,660 just as much as we need 3259 02:10:03,660 --> 02:10:04,494 affordable housing and 3260 02:10:04,494 --> 02:10:04,761 quality of life for all 3261 02:10:04,761 --> 02:10:05,529 residents. 3262 02:10:05,529 --> 02:10:06,163 This is not meant to be 3263 02:10:06,163 --> 02:10:06,997 slandered toward anyone 3264 02:10:06,997 --> 02:10:07,465 present today, but instead 3265 02:10:07,465 --> 02:10:07,998 accountability for 3266 02:10:07,998 --> 02:10:08,699 responsibility -- 3267 02:10:08,699 --> 02:10:09,500 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3268 02:10:09,500 --> 02:10:09,800 thank you so much, ma'am. 3269 02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:10,667 Hank you. 3270 02:10:10,667 --> 02:10:11,201 >> Public Speaker: hello, 3271 02:10:11,201 --> 02:10:11,502 my name is cardinal 3272 02:10:11,502 --> 02:10:12,690 alfonso. 3273 02:10:12,690 --> 02:10:12,183 I live at 14229 sw. 3274 02:10:12,183 --> 02:10:12,402 7th 3275 02:10:12,402 --> 02:10:14,402 terrace. 3276 02:10:34,524 --> 02:10:35,159 I'm here because I was 3277 02:10:35,159 --> 02:10:35,827 originally going to talk 3278 02:10:35,827 --> 02:10:36,628 about the kelly tractor, 3279 02:10:36,628 --> 02:10:37,950 but as expected, public 3280 02:10:37,950 --> 02:10:37,762 comment is closed. 3281 02:10:37,762 --> 02:10:38,563 I'm still here because I 3282 02:10:38,563 --> 02:10:39,197 care about our waters. 3283 02:10:39,197 --> 02:10:40,310 All of us speaking here, I 3284 02:10:40,310 --> 02:10:40,732 would like to mention that 3285 02:10:40,732 --> 02:10:41,132 we are not here to waste 3286 02:10:41,132 --> 02:10:41,733 your time. 3287 02:10:41,733 --> 02:10:42,300 We take time out of our 3288 02:10:42,300 --> 02:10:43,134 day to be here to tell you 3289 02:10:43,134 --> 02:10:43,734 how we all feel because we 3290 02:10:43,734 --> 02:10:44,368 truly care about this. 3291 02:10:44,368 --> 02:10:45,136 I believe funding this 3292 02:10:45,136 --> 02:10:45,770 study is a great use of 3293 02:10:45,770 --> 02:10:46,604 our taxpayer money instead 3294 02:10:46,604 --> 02:10:47,238 of building more ai data 3295 02:10:47,238 --> 02:10:48,106 centers, which takes our 3296 02:10:48,106 --> 02:10:48,406 water and damages our 3297 02:10:48,406 --> 02:10:50,406 ecosystems. 3298 02:10:59,250 --> 02:10:59,785 We should be using our 3299 02:10:59,785 --> 02:11:00,252 taxpayer money for 3300 02:11:00,252 --> 02:11:00,819 something that is 3301 02:11:00,819 --> 02:11:01,285 beneficial to all of us 3302 02:11:01,285 --> 02:11:02,120 and our nature. 3303 02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:02,754 As you all know, our water 3304 02:11:02,754 --> 02:11:03,355 quality is extremely 3305 02:11:03,355 --> 02:11:04,550 important not only for us 3306 02:11:04,550 --> 02:11:04,589 but our future 3307 02:11:04,589 --> 02:11:05,289 generations. 3308 02:11:05,289 --> 02:11:06,910 Funding the study of water 3309 02:11:06,910 --> 02:11:06,759 quality will ensure our 3310 02:11:06,759 --> 02:11:07,226 water is free of micro 3311 02:11:07,226 --> 02:11:07,826 plastics and other 3312 02:11:07,826 --> 02:11:08,394 pollutants that are 3313 02:11:08,394 --> 02:11:08,827 harmful to us all. 3314 02:11:08,827 --> 02:11:09,395 This is extremely 3315 02:11:09,395 --> 02:11:10,195 important and we urge you 3316 02:11:10,195 --> 02:11:10,796 to support the funding of 3317 02:11:10,796 --> 02:11:11,263 our water studies. 3318 02:11:11,263 --> 02:11:11,864 Thank you. 3319 02:11:11,864 --> 02:11:12,330 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3320 02:11:12,330 --> 02:11:12,664 thank you. 3321 02:11:12,664 --> 02:11:14,664 Sir? 3322 02:11:26,746 --> 02:11:27,213 >> Public Speaker: oh, 3323 02:11:27,213 --> 02:11:27,814 it's my turn? 3324 02:11:27,814 --> 02:11:28,147 Good morning, my name is 3325 02:11:28,147 --> 02:11:28,781 jules. 3326 02:11:28,781 --> 02:11:29,282 I live in 13 506 ne. 24th 3327 02:11:29,282 --> 02:11:29,682 place. 3328 02:11:29,682 --> 02:11:30,182 I'm a north miami 3329 02:11:30,182 --> 02:11:30,750 resident. 3330 02:11:30,750 --> 02:11:31,284 Before anything, I want to 3331 02:11:31,284 --> 02:11:32,184 extend my thanks for all 3332 02:11:32,184 --> 02:11:32,385 of you guys for showing up 3333 02:11:32,385 --> 02:11:33,152 today. 3334 02:11:33,152 --> 02:11:33,652 We have a pretty good 3335 02:11:33,652 --> 02:11:34,353 turnout, as I see. 3336 02:11:34,353 --> 02:11:37,953 Yes, I want to speak about 3337 02:11:45,732 --> 02:11:45,999 the water quality 3338 02:11:45,999 --> 02:11:46,700 situation. 3339 02:11:46,700 --> 02:11:47,200 As a miami local, I've 3340 02:11:47,200 --> 02:11:48,235 seen firsthand how 3341 02:11:48,235 --> 02:11:48,602 important it is to protect 3342 02:11:48,602 --> 02:11:49,302 our environment. 3343 02:11:49,302 --> 02:11:49,936 With rising sea levels and 3344 02:11:49,936 --> 02:11:50,770 temperatures globally, I 3345 02:11:50,770 --> 02:11:51,304 think this is a very 3346 02:11:51,304 --> 02:11:51,771 important way of 3347 02:11:51,771 --> 02:11:52,338 contributing to our 3348 02:11:52,338 --> 02:11:53,273 environment as well as 3349 02:11:53,273 --> 02:11:53,540 using our resources 3350 02:11:53,540 --> 02:11:54,340 correctly. 3351 02:11:54,340 --> 02:11:57,340 i think just it's really 3352 02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:13,894 important that we take a 3353 02:12:13,894 --> 02:12:14,527 moment to think about how 3354 02:12:14,527 --> 02:12:15,395 this will affect our 3355 02:12:15,395 --> 02:12:15,963 future and how our city's 3356 02:12:15,963 --> 02:12:16,664 landscape will look 10, 3357 02:12:16,664 --> 02:12:17,431 20, 30 years from now. 3358 02:12:17,431 --> 02:12:18,432 So many young people care 3359 02:12:18,432 --> 02:12:19,333 so much about this because 3360 02:12:19,333 --> 02:12:19,633 it will land on us 3361 02:12:19,633 --> 02:12:20,301 effectively. 3362 02:12:20,301 --> 02:12:20,901 So yeah, I do hope you 3363 02:12:20,901 --> 02:12:21,468 take everything that 3364 02:12:21,468 --> 02:12:22,202 everyone said with -- 3365 02:12:22,202 --> 02:12:22,403 sorry, ran out of time. 3366 02:12:22,403 --> 02:12:22,603 Okay. 3367 02:12:22,603 --> 02:12:23,303 Hank you. 3368 02:12:23,303 --> 02:12:24,400 I appreciate it. 3369 02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:24,471 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3370 02:12:24,471 --> 02:12:25,205 all right. 3371 02:12:25,205 --> 02:12:27,605 We are now officially 3372 02:12:28,175 --> 02:12:28,876 closed with a reasonable 3373 02:12:28,876 --> 02:12:29,377 opportunity. 3374 02:12:29,377 --> 02:12:31,777 And amount of attorney, 3375 02:12:32,279 --> 02:12:32,680 should we set the agenda 3376 02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:34,680 at this time? 3377 02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:38,686 >> yes, MR. Chair. 3378 02:12:38,686 --> 02:12:38,920 I have a number of 3379 02:12:38,920 --> 02:12:39,654 changes. 3380 02:12:39,654 --> 02:12:40,870 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 3381 02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:40,621 imagine so. 3382 02:12:40,621 --> 02:12:42,621 Let's do it. 3383 02:12:44,659 --> 02:12:46,395 >> 2b5, add this item to 3384 02:12:46,395 --> 02:12:48,395 the pole list. 3385 02:12:53,634 --> 02:12:54,435 2b6, commissioner aneto 3386 02:12:54,435 --> 02:12:55,436 -- regalado adds this 3387 02:12:55,436 --> 02:12:57,572 item to the pole list. 3388 02:12:57,572 --> 02:12:58,140 Commissioner lopez and 3389 02:12:58,140 --> 02:12:58,707 commissioner cohen 3390 02:12:58,707 --> 02:13:01,276 higgins, add this item to 3391 02:13:01,276 --> 02:13:03,276 the pole list. 3392 02:13:10,886 --> 02:13:11,553 2b10, commissioner 3393 02:13:11,553 --> 02:13:12,421 regalado pulls the item. 3394 02:13:12,421 --> 02:13:15,890 To be 12, 3b2 and 3b5, 3395 02:13:15,890 --> 02:13:15,725 commissioner lopez adds 3396 02:13:15,725 --> 02:13:18,725 these three items to the 3397 02:13:19,995 --> 02:13:20,963 pool st. 3398 02:13:20,963 --> 02:13:24,563 MR. Chair, I do have some 3399 02:13:28,838 --> 02:13:29,472 request to furcate first 3400 02:13:29,472 --> 02:13:30,273 reading items, so I'll run 3401 02:13:30,273 --> 02:13:30,906 through them now and tell 3402 02:13:30,906 --> 02:13:31,107 you again when we're 3403 02:13:31,107 --> 02:13:33,107 there. 3404 02:13:34,843 --> 02:13:35,779 4b, senator garcia, 3405 02:13:35,779 --> 02:13:38,179 14a1, five, six, seven 3406 02:13:41,551 --> 02:13:42,218 commissioner regalado. I 3407 02:13:42,218 --> 02:13:43,510 requested bifurcate public 3408 02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:45,510 hearing items 5a, 3409 02:13:48,425 --> 02:13:49,259 commissioner bastien, 3410 02:13:49,259 --> 02:13:50,293 5f, 5g, 5h commissioner 3411 02:13:50,293 --> 02:13:52,293 regalado, five ella 3412 02:13:53,863 --> 02:13:55,863 commissioner bermudez -- 3413 02:14:05,509 --> 02:14:05,909 senator garcia cia and 5u, 3414 02:14:05,909 --> 02:14:06,810 senator garcia. 3415 02:14:06,810 --> 02:14:07,444 I also have requested 3416 02:14:07,444 --> 02:14:08,312 bifurcate second reading. 3417 02:14:08,312 --> 02:14:09,460 7b is commissioner lopez 3418 02:14:09,460 --> 02:14:12,460 and 7d and 7e commissioner 3419 02:14:19,623 --> 02:14:20,224 regalado. 3420 02:14:20,224 --> 02:14:21,240 8f1 senator garcia adds 3421 02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:21,225 this item to the pool 3422 02:14:21,225 --> 02:14:22,590 list. 3423 02:14:22,590 --> 02:14:22,759 8f 2, commissioner 3424 02:14:22,759 --> 02:14:23,226 bermudez adding this item 3425 02:14:23,226 --> 02:14:25,626 to the pool list. 3426 02:14:33,203 --> 02:14:33,737 Eight g5, commissioner 3427 02:14:33,737 --> 02:14:34,710 orbis adds this item to 3428 02:14:34,710 --> 02:14:34,705 the pool list. 3429 02:14:34,705 --> 02:14:35,305 810 one, CHAIRMAN 3430 02:14:35,305 --> 02:14:35,840 Rodriguez adds this item 3431 02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:37,275 to the pool list. 3432 02:14:37,275 --> 02:14:39,675 MR. CHAIRMAN, item 8k2, 3433 02:14:49,554 --> 02:14:50,555 the this item will be red. 3434 02:14:50,555 --> 02:14:51,255 8k 4 and item 8 and seven 3435 02:14:51,255 --> 02:14:52,560 commissioner gilbert adds 3436 02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:55,560 these items to the pool 3437 02:15:01,466 --> 02:15:02,200 list. 3438 02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:03,100 Senator garcia adds this 3439 02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:03,601 item to the pool list. 3440 02:15:03,601 --> 02:15:04,302 Items 802, 803, and 804 3441 02:15:04,302 --> 02:15:06,702 are being ulled by 3442 02:15:07,506 --> 02:15:09,506 commissioner bermudez. 3443 02:15:11,743 --> 02:15:12,711 Nine a 5 also being pulled 3444 02:15:12,711 --> 02:15:14,711 by commissioner bermudez. 3445 02:15:22,688 --> 02:15:23,522 MR. Chair, items 1oa1 and 3446 02:15:23,522 --> 02:15:24,222 go she no longer wishes to 3447 02:15:24,222 --> 02:15:26,622 deferred these two items. 3448 02:15:29,362 --> 02:15:30,229 That's items 10a1 and 3449 02:15:30,229 --> 02:15:30,763 10a2. With the setting of 3450 02:15:30,763 --> 02:15:33,163 these agenda items, these 3451 02:15:34,399 --> 02:15:35,434 will be approved. 3452 02:15:35,434 --> 02:15:36,502 11a1, commissioner lopez 3453 02:15:36,502 --> 02:15:39,571 adds this item to the pool 3454 02:15:39,571 --> 02:15:40,720 list. 3455 02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:42,720 11a13 and its 3456 02:15:45,311 --> 02:15:45,978 supplements, commissioners 3457 02:15:45,978 --> 02:15:46,412 are adding this item to 3458 02:15:46,412 --> 02:15:48,412 the pool list. 3459 02:15:50,583 --> 02:15:51,384 And that was 11a13 and 3460 02:15:51,384 --> 02:15:53,784 its supplements and its 3461 02:15:57,657 --> 02:15:58,124 senators garcia, lopez, -- 3462 02:15:58,124 --> 02:16:00,124 11 a capital 14, 3463 02:16:03,996 --> 02:16:04,597 commissioner steinberg 3464 02:16:04,597 --> 02:16:05,431 regalado pull this item. 3465 02:16:05,431 --> 02:16:07,670 11 a 16, commissioner 3466 02:16:07,670 --> 02:16:09,670 steinberg and commissioner 3467 02:16:16,977 --> 02:16:17,144 higgins are pulling this 3468 02:16:17,144 --> 02:16:17,978 em. 3469 02:16:17,978 --> 02:16:20,378 11a20, these are being 3470 02:16:25,653 --> 02:16:26,621 pulled. 3471 02:16:26,621 --> 02:16:27,388 11a24, commissioner 3472 02:16:27,388 --> 02:16:27,722 regalado is pulling this 3473 02:16:27,722 --> 02:16:29,722 item. 3474 02:16:33,493 --> 02:16:34,940 11a25, CHAIRMAN Rodriguez 3475 02:16:34,940 --> 02:16:34,294 adds this item to the pool 3476 02:16:34,294 --> 02:16:34,995 list. 3477 02:16:34,995 --> 02:16:36,995 14a2 and 14a3, 3478 02:16:39,299 --> 02:16:39,967 commissioner regalado are 3479 02:16:39,967 --> 02:16:40,868 pulling these items. 3480 02:16:40,868 --> 02:16:42,868 14a4, commissioner cohen 3481 02:16:45,607 --> 02:16:46,740 higgins. 14a1 -- I'm 3482 02:16:46,740 --> 02:16:48,740 sorry, commissioner 3483 02:16:51,212 --> 02:16:51,445 regalado is pulling 14a1 3484 02:16:51,445 --> 02:16:52,546 as well. 3485 02:16:52,546 --> 02:16:54,546 14b5, CHAIRMAN Rodriguez 3486 02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:05,494 and -- pulling this item 3487 02:17:05,494 --> 02:17:06,280 and 15 b 1 CHAIRMAN 3488 02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:06,828 Rodriguez and senator 3489 02:17:06,828 --> 02:17:07,290 garcia are pulling these 3490 02:17:07,290 --> 02:17:07,863 items. 3491 02:17:07,863 --> 02:17:08,330 I have additional request 3492 02:17:08,330 --> 02:17:10,330 for cosponsorship. 3493 02:17:26,810 --> 02:17:27,215 Item 7e, commissioner -- 3494 02:17:27,215 --> 02:17:29,615 with the additions and 3495 02:17:34,890 --> 02:17:34,790 cribner rors in the items 3496 02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:35,357 I just mentioned. 3497 02:17:35,357 --> 02:17:35,925 The commission will 3498 02:17:35,925 --> 02:17:38,460 approve all these items by 3499 02:17:38,460 --> 02:17:40,860 single boats except items 3500 02:17:42,765 --> 02:17:43,298 2b1, item 2b2, 3501 02:17:43,298 --> 02:17:44,166 ordinances for first 3502 02:17:44,166 --> 02:17:46,166 reading public hearings 3503 02:17:50,806 --> 02:17:51,574 items 6a1 discussion 3504 02:17:51,574 --> 02:17:52,441 regarding the status of 3505 02:17:52,441 --> 02:17:53,342 the county electric fleet, 3506 02:17:53,342 --> 02:17:55,342 item 61 discussion item 3507 02:17:58,548 --> 02:17:59,115 regarding sb 1134 official 3508 02:17:59,115 --> 02:17:59,815 actions of local 3509 02:17:59,815 --> 02:18:01,815 governments, di ordinances 3510 02:18:05,454 --> 02:18:07,854 set for second reading. 3511 02:18:12,996 --> 02:18:13,596 Items which are your 3512 02:18:13,596 --> 02:18:14,497 commercial commercial 3513 02:18:14,497 --> 02:18:15,131 service lists are not on 3514 02:18:15,131 --> 02:18:15,766 your pool list and have to 3515 02:18:15,766 --> 02:18:17,267 be voted on separately and 3516 02:18:17,267 --> 02:18:19,267 the following items. 3517 02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:37,840 2b5, 2b6 -- 8f1, 8f2, 3518 02:18:44,995 --> 02:18:46,995 8n7, 802, 803, 804, 9a5, 3519 02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:50,434 11a14, 11a26, 11a20, 3520 02:18:50,434 --> 02:18:52,834 14a1, that's a first 3521 02:18:54,505 --> 02:18:56,505 reading item. 3522 02:19:01,979 --> 02:19:02,880 14a2, 14a5 and 14a8, 3523 02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:05,280 those items are first 3524 02:19:07,180 --> 02:19:08,320 readings. 3525 02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:11,320 14b1, motion to set the 3526 02:19:12,924 --> 02:19:14,924 agenda items. 3527 02:19:19,798 --> 02:19:20,465 >> vice-CHAIRMAN? 3528 02:19:20,465 --> 02:19:21,990 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 3529 02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:22,334 thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 3530 02:19:22,334 --> 02:19:25,934 Can you please add to that 3531 02:19:26,372 --> 02:19:26,772 list 11a15 b 3532 02:19:26,772 --> 02:19:27,339 mike I'll 3533 02:19:27,339 --> 02:19:28,240 be pulling those. 3534 02:19:28,240 --> 02:19:30,142 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3535 02:19:30,142 --> 02:19:30,843 any additional pull items? 3536 02:19:30,843 --> 02:19:32,744 I'll entertain a motion to 3537 02:19:32,744 --> 02:19:33,678 set the da. 3538 02:19:33,678 --> 02:19:35,800 >> can you please repeat 3539 02:19:35,800 --> 02:19:35,981 those? 3540 02:19:35,981 --> 02:19:37,981 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 3541 02:19:38,484 --> 02:19:42,254 I got a point of -- I 3542 02:19:42,254 --> 02:19:42,454 know, but it's kind of 3543 02:19:42,454 --> 02:19:43,288 loud. 3544 02:19:43,288 --> 02:19:44,857 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3545 02:19:44,857 --> 02:19:47,257 I'm very uncomfortable in 3546 02:19:53,498 --> 02:19:53,833 ways, go ahead, vice 3547 02:19:53,833 --> 02:19:54,499 chair. 3548 02:19:54,499 --> 02:19:55,300 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 3549 02:19:55,300 --> 02:19:56,702 MADAME Attorney, the items 3550 02:19:56,702 --> 02:19:57,237 I referred to were 11a15, 3551 02:19:57,237 --> 02:19:59,637 8p9, and 14b1. Those 3552 02:20:00,139 --> 02:20:00,673 are the items I'll be 3553 02:20:00,673 --> 02:20:02,673 pulling. 3554 02:20:12,986 --> 02:20:13,286 >> the point of 3555 02:20:13,286 --> 02:20:13,987 discomfort. 3556 02:20:13,987 --> 02:20:14,520 I refuse to believe that 3557 02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:14,887 we pull this entire 3558 02:20:14,887 --> 02:20:15,388 agenda. 3559 02:20:15,388 --> 02:20:16,560 >> this is JULY. 3560 02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:19,560 This is the JULY meeting. 3561 02:20:20,227 --> 02:20:20,794 >> I refuse to believe 3562 02:20:20,794 --> 02:20:21,561 there are that many 3563 02:20:21,561 --> 02:20:21,861 controversial things on 3564 02:20:21,861 --> 02:20:22,662 the agenda. 3565 02:20:22,662 --> 02:20:23,730 >> we're politicians. 3566 02:20:23,730 --> 02:20:24,397 That's what it is. 3567 02:20:24,397 --> 02:20:24,731 >> we have nothing else to 3568 02:20:24,731 --> 02:20:26,731 do. 3569 02:20:28,100 --> 02:20:28,836 >> you all packed a lunch. 3570 02:20:28,836 --> 02:20:30,204 >> and we got a meeting 3571 02:20:30,204 --> 02:20:32,204 tonight. 3572 02:20:33,206 --> 02:20:33,673 >> MR. Chair? 3573 02:20:33,673 --> 02:20:36,673 I want to add to 3574 02:20:48,356 --> 02:20:49,560 commissioner gilbert's 3575 02:20:49,560 --> 02:20:49,890 8p8. I want to pool 8p8. 3576 02:20:49,890 --> 02:20:50,224 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3577 02:20:50,224 --> 02:20:50,858 8p8. 3578 02:20:50,858 --> 02:20:51,792 With that, I'll entertain 3579 02:20:51,792 --> 02:20:55,392 a motion to set the agenda 3580 02:21:01,101 --> 02:21:01,836 and all itss pulled items. 3581 02:21:01,836 --> 02:21:02,236 All in favor signify by 3582 02:21:02,236 --> 02:21:03,170 saying aye. 3583 02:21:03,170 --> 02:21:03,804 Everything that jerry 3584 02:21:03,804 --> 02:21:04,372 mentioned happens with the 3585 02:21:04,372 --> 02:21:05,172 sitting of the agenda. 3586 02:21:05,172 --> 02:21:05,841 Can we quiet down in the 3587 02:21:05,841 --> 02:21:07,841 back, please? 3588 02:21:08,209 --> 02:21:08,810 Before I get into first 3589 02:21:08,810 --> 02:21:09,444 readings, I'm going to 3590 02:21:09,444 --> 02:21:10,278 recognize the mayor for 3591 02:21:10,278 --> 02:21:11,913 two appointments. 3592 02:21:11,913 --> 02:21:13,140 We'll start with 2b1, 3593 02:21:13,140 --> 02:21:15,382 which is the mayoral 3594 02:21:15,382 --> 02:21:17,382 appointment to the 3595 02:21:20,355 --> 02:21:20,655 director of the cport 3596 02:21:20,655 --> 02:21:21,489 department. 3597 02:21:21,489 --> 02:21:21,990 We have jonathan daniels 3598 02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:22,524 serving as the new 3599 02:21:22,524 --> 02:21:24,524 executive director -- 3600 02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:26,895 well, he was serving as 3601 02:21:26,895 --> 02:21:27,896 the director of M.P.A. 3602 02:21:27,896 --> 02:21:30,896 And the port of baltimore 3603 02:21:37,473 --> 02:21:38,140 and the 11th busiest 3604 02:21:38,140 --> 02:21:38,507 tonnage port in the united 3605 02:21:38,507 --> 02:21:39,740 states. 3606 02:21:39,740 --> 02:21:39,507 And I know that he's here 3607 02:21:39,507 --> 02:21:41,507 this morning. 3608 02:21:44,346 --> 02:21:44,579 Welcome and with his wife, 3609 02:21:44,579 --> 02:21:45,800 adrian. 3610 02:21:45,800 --> 02:21:45,815 So thank you for being 3611 02:21:45,815 --> 02:21:46,490 here, adrian and MR. 3612 02:21:46,490 --> 02:21:46,949 Daniels. 3613 02:21:46,949 --> 02:21:47,884 All right, MADAME Mayor, 3614 02:21:47,884 --> 02:21:48,317 do you want to do a brief 3615 02:21:48,317 --> 02:21:50,317 introduction of our 3616 02:21:50,653 --> 02:21:51,487 newport director? 3617 02:21:51,487 --> 02:21:53,487 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 3618 02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:15,277 yes, I do, but thank you 3619 02:22:15,277 --> 02:22:15,945 for leading it off. 3620 02:22:15,945 --> 02:22:16,813 That was wonderful. 3621 02:22:16,813 --> 02:22:17,417 We are very pleased that 3622 02:22:17,417 --> 02:22:17,881 we found MR. Daniels, 3623 02:22:17,881 --> 02:22:18,782 jonathan daniels. 3624 02:22:18,782 --> 02:22:19,316 Please if you would 3625 02:22:19,316 --> 02:22:19,850 approach the well here to 3626 02:22:19,850 --> 02:22:20,417 be our next director and 3627 02:22:20,417 --> 02:22:20,917 ceo of the port miami. 3628 02:22:20,917 --> 02:22:21,784 We all know that port 3629 02:22:21,784 --> 02:22:22,285 miami is one of the most 3630 02:22:22,285 --> 02:22:22,519 important economic 3631 02:22:22,519 --> 02:22:23,420 engines. 3632 02:22:23,420 --> 02:22:23,986 It supports jobs across 3633 02:22:23,986 --> 02:22:24,821 florida, $61 billion in 3634 02:22:24,821 --> 02:22:25,321 economic impact and so 3635 02:22:25,321 --> 02:22:25,989 strong leadership is 3636 02:22:25,989 --> 02:22:26,290 essential to its continued 3637 02:22:26,290 --> 02:22:26,890 success. 3638 02:22:26,890 --> 02:22:27,524 He brings more than three 3639 02:22:27,524 --> 02:22:28,292 decades of experience 3640 02:22:28,292 --> 02:22:30,692 leading some of the 3641 02:22:37,234 --> 02:22:37,501 nation's most significant 3642 02:22:37,501 --> 02:22:38,235 seaports. 3643 02:22:38,235 --> 02:22:38,902 He manages complex 3644 02:22:38,902 --> 02:22:39,737 logistics operations. 3645 02:22:39,737 --> 02:22:40,270 He's overseen 3646 02:22:40,270 --> 02:22:40,938 multibillion-dollar 3647 02:22:40,938 --> 02:22:41,738 capital investments. 3648 02:22:41,738 --> 02:22:42,473 He's built a reputation 3649 02:22:42,473 --> 02:22:43,240 and delivers results, and 3650 02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:43,941 by the way, he comes from 3651 02:22:43,941 --> 02:22:45,941 a longshoremen family, 3652 02:23:01,993 --> 02:23:02,626 father and grandfather. 3653 02:23:02,626 --> 02:23:03,327 Before that, he led right 3654 02:23:03,327 --> 02:23:05,727 here port everglades and 3655 02:23:16,942 --> 02:23:17,542 he advanced -- as port 3656 02:23:17,542 --> 02:23:18,443 miami continues to grow 3657 02:23:18,443 --> 02:23:18,944 and invest in critical 3658 02:23:18,944 --> 02:23:19,711 infrastructure, 3659 02:23:19,711 --> 02:23:20,478 strengthens its position 3660 02:23:20,478 --> 02:23:21,460 as the cruise capital of 3661 02:23:21,460 --> 02:23:24,460 the world and the cargo 3662 02:23:27,419 --> 02:23:27,920 gateway of the americas, 3663 02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:28,487 jonathan has the 3664 02:23:28,487 --> 02:23:29,254 experience, vision, and 3665 02:23:29,254 --> 02:23:30,880 city leadership to build 3666 02:23:30,880 --> 02:23:30,588 on that momentum. 3667 02:23:30,588 --> 02:23:31,456 We are really delighted 3668 02:23:31,456 --> 02:23:31,690 that he's chosen to be 3669 02:23:31,690 --> 02:23:32,424 with us. 3670 02:23:32,424 --> 02:23:35,424 Thank you and welcome to 3671 02:23:43,100 --> 02:23:43,301 jonathan. 3672 02:23:43,301 --> 02:23:44,680 [Applause] 3673 02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:44,703 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3674 02:23:44,703 --> 02:23:45,236 anyone that takes this job 3675 02:23:45,236 --> 02:23:45,604 deserves a round of 3676 02:23:45,604 --> 02:23:46,205 applause. 3677 02:23:46,205 --> 02:23:46,605 And he brought his wife 3678 02:23:46,605 --> 02:23:47,239 with him. 3679 02:23:47,239 --> 02:23:47,473 That's like a double 3680 02:23:47,473 --> 02:23:49,473 whammy. 3681 02:23:49,775 --> 02:23:50,142 Go ahead, you got the 3682 02:23:50,142 --> 02:23:52,142 floor. 3683 02:23:54,112 --> 02:23:54,713 >> I am humbled and 3684 02:23:54,713 --> 02:23:57,113 honored to be standing 3685 02:24:05,591 --> 02:24:06,493 before you this morning. 3686 02:24:06,493 --> 02:24:07,600 When we talk about the 3687 02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:07,594 cargo gateway to the 3688 02:24:07,594 --> 02:24:09,994 americas, when we talk 3689 02:24:14,100 --> 02:24:15,000 about the cruise capital 3690 02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:15,569 of the world, they are 3691 02:24:15,569 --> 02:24:16,203 promises that we as a 3692 02:24:16,203 --> 02:24:16,703 port, as port miami, make 3693 02:24:16,703 --> 02:24:18,703 to the stakeholders. 3694 02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:22,675 Who are utilizing our 3695 02:24:22,675 --> 02:24:23,543 facilities and utilizing 3696 02:24:23,543 --> 02:24:23,776 port miami as their 3697 02:24:23,776 --> 02:24:24,544 gateway. 3698 02:24:24,544 --> 02:24:25,244 That 8.5 million passenger 3699 02:24:25,244 --> 02:24:28,244 moves that we engaged in 3700 02:24:28,882 --> 02:24:32,482 just last year is a solid 3701 02:24:34,754 --> 02:24:35,388 number, but we have put 3702 02:24:35,388 --> 02:24:36,189 ourselves in a position 3703 02:24:36,189 --> 02:24:36,490 where we stepped back a 3704 02:24:36,490 --> 02:24:37,224 little bit. 3705 02:24:37,224 --> 02:24:40,224 There is another port to 3706 02:24:49,690 --> 02:24:49,970 the north of us that shall 3707 02:24:49,970 --> 02:24:50,571 remain nameless right now 3708 02:24:50,571 --> 02:24:50,838 that has taken over that 3709 02:24:50,838 --> 02:24:51,471 position. 3710 02:24:51,471 --> 02:24:52,720 I am absolutely 3711 02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:52,739 enthusiastic about where 3712 02:24:52,739 --> 02:24:53,574 we stand right now with 3713 02:24:53,574 --> 02:24:53,807 the incredible staff that 3714 02:24:53,807 --> 02:24:55,807 we have. 3715 02:25:04,251 --> 02:25:05,850 I had the opportunity to 3716 02:25:05,850 --> 02:25:05,352 meet with the directors 3717 02:25:05,352 --> 02:25:06,870 yesterday. 3718 02:25:06,870 --> 02:25:06,688 One of the reasons why 3719 02:25:06,688 --> 02:25:07,655 this position was so 3720 02:25:07,655 --> 02:25:08,356 appealing because I've had 3721 02:25:08,356 --> 02:25:08,890 the opportunity to work 3722 02:25:08,890 --> 02:25:09,190 with many of them in the 3723 02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:09,857 past. 3724 02:25:09,857 --> 02:25:10,791 And the view and the 3725 02:25:10,791 --> 02:25:11,292 vision that they have to 3726 02:25:11,292 --> 02:25:11,859 be able to continue to 3727 02:25:11,859 --> 02:25:14,259 move the port forward 3728 02:25:20,335 --> 02:25:20,535 whether it's cruise or 3729 02:25:20,535 --> 02:25:21,350 cargo. 3730 02:25:21,350 --> 02:25:21,569 I sat down with them 3731 02:25:21,569 --> 02:25:22,337 yesterday for about an 3732 02:25:22,337 --> 02:25:22,904 hour, hour and 1/2. 3733 02:25:22,904 --> 02:25:25,904 After that meeting, all I 3734 02:25:26,375 --> 02:25:27,108 wanted to do was sit back 3735 02:25:27,108 --> 02:25:27,308 in the office and get to 3736 02:25:27,308 --> 02:25:28,143 work. 3737 02:25:28,143 --> 02:25:31,743 This is a team that is 3738 02:25:34,282 --> 02:25:35,490 prepared to move forward. 3739 02:25:35,490 --> 02:25:35,383 Yes, we have challenges in 3740 02:25:35,383 --> 02:25:36,510 front of us. 3741 02:25:36,510 --> 02:25:36,785 A report in america, every 3742 02:25:36,785 --> 02:25:37,252 port in the world has 3743 02:25:37,252 --> 02:25:37,752 challenges. 3744 02:25:37,752 --> 02:25:38,387 As the mayor had 3745 02:25:38,387 --> 02:25:38,953 mentioned, I have had the 3746 02:25:38,953 --> 02:25:40,953 opportunity to work 3747 02:26:01,430 --> 02:26:01,643 through challenges whether 3748 02:26:01,643 --> 02:26:02,545 it's rebuilding after 3749 02:26:02,545 --> 02:26:03,145 hurricane katrina, whether 3750 02:26:03,145 --> 02:26:04,460 it's taking on the third 3751 02:26:04,460 --> 02:26:04,680 largest cruise during the 3752 02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:05,582 pandemic or six months 3753 02:26:05,582 --> 02:26:06,249 after my arrival in 3754 02:26:06,249 --> 02:26:07,160 baltimore and getting the 3755 02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:07,684 call at the 1:30 in the 3756 02:26:07,684 --> 02:26:08,551 morning that the francis 3757 02:26:08,551 --> 02:26:09,850 key scott fridge has gone 3758 02:26:09,850 --> 02:26:09,952 into the river. 3759 02:26:09,952 --> 02:26:10,486 Are all of those issues 3760 02:26:10,486 --> 02:26:11,120 unexpected, all of those 3761 02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:11,553 issues allow us the 3762 02:26:11,553 --> 02:26:12,288 opportunity to be 3763 02:26:12,288 --> 02:26:13,188 creative, to utilize the 3764 02:26:13,188 --> 02:26:14,123 team approach, to utilize 3765 02:26:14,123 --> 02:26:14,623 a creative approach and 3766 02:26:14,623 --> 02:26:14,924 ultimately come out the 3767 02:26:14,924 --> 02:26:15,659 other side. 3768 02:26:15,659 --> 02:26:16,259 We have set records after 3769 02:26:16,259 --> 02:26:18,659 each of those instances 3770 02:26:32,175 --> 02:26:33,420 and that is the passion 3771 02:26:33,420 --> 02:26:33,409 and drive I want to bring 3772 02:26:33,409 --> 02:26:33,643 to this team. 3773 02:26:33,643 --> 02:26:34,410 Gain, I've 3774 02:26:34,410 --> 02:26:35,440 had the opportunity to 3775 02:26:35,440 --> 02:26:35,912 work with many of them, 3776 02:26:35,912 --> 02:26:36,513 work with many of them in 3777 02:26:36,513 --> 02:26:37,548 leadership, and to stand 3778 02:26:37,548 --> 02:26:37,981 before you now in 3779 02:26:37,981 --> 02:26:38,582 consideration of my 3780 02:26:38,582 --> 02:26:39,249 appointment, again, I am 3781 02:26:39,249 --> 02:26:40,170 honored and humbled to be 3782 02:26:40,170 --> 02:26:40,250 part of the miami-dade 3783 02:26:40,250 --> 02:26:40,684 family. 3784 02:26:40,684 --> 02:26:41,284 As many people have 3785 02:26:41,284 --> 02:26:42,520 pointed out to me, but 3786 02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:43,190 more importantly, to the 3787 02:26:43,190 --> 02:26:45,419 professional and team that 3788 02:26:47,758 --> 02:26:48,459 is at port miami that 3789 02:26:48,459 --> 02:26:49,259 leads with professionalism 3790 02:26:49,259 --> 02:26:50,940 and integrity like no 3791 02:26:50,940 --> 02:26:50,627 other port I've had the 3792 02:26:50,627 --> 02:26:50,961 opportunity to work with 3793 02:26:50,961 --> 02:26:51,495 and work for. 3794 02:26:51,495 --> 02:26:53,895 I've had the opportunity 3795 02:26:53,964 --> 02:26:54,831 to speak to a few of you 3796 02:26:54,831 --> 02:26:55,465 on this commission thus 3797 02:26:55,465 --> 02:26:56,670 far, but I would be happy 3798 02:26:56,670 --> 02:26:58,467 to answer any questions 3799 02:26:58,602 --> 02:26:59,203 you MAY have in 3800 02:26:59,203 --> 02:26:59,670 consideration of the 3801 02:26:59,670 --> 02:27:00,638 appointment. 3802 02:27:00,638 --> 02:27:03,380 >> and just through the 3803 02:27:06,110 --> 02:27:06,644 clipr to clarify, his 3804 02:27:06,644 --> 02:27:07,345 official first day was 3805 02:27:07,345 --> 02:27:08,460 AUGUST 10, so we wanted to 3806 02:27:08,460 --> 02:27:10,446 have an opportunity for 3807 02:27:12,249 --> 02:27:15,849 him to come here and meet. 3808 02:27:18,956 --> 02:27:19,790 >> thank you, MR. Chair 3809 02:27:19,790 --> 02:27:19,990 and thank you, MADAME 3810 02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:20,291 Mayor. 3811 02:27:20,291 --> 02:27:20,892 Welcome and 3812 02:27:20,892 --> 02:27:21,192 congratulations on the 3813 02:27:21,192 --> 02:27:23,192 appointment. 3814 02:27:26,665 --> 02:27:27,432 I just wanted to say a few 3815 02:27:27,432 --> 02:27:28,467 words of your role and the 3816 02:27:28,467 --> 02:27:29,330 size of it and magnitude 3817 02:27:29,330 --> 02:27:29,701 over the work you are not 3818 02:27:29,701 --> 02:27:30,502 going to do here for us in 3819 02:27:30,502 --> 02:27:31,136 the community not only 3820 02:27:31,136 --> 02:27:31,870 focusing on passenger 3821 02:27:31,870 --> 02:27:34,270 volume and those numbers, 3822 02:27:38,443 --> 02:27:39,440 but with a particular 3823 02:27:39,440 --> 02:27:39,644 emphasis on the amazing 3824 02:27:39,644 --> 02:27:40,511 community you are now a 3825 02:27:40,511 --> 02:27:41,213 key member of and the over 3826 02:27:41,213 --> 02:27:42,647 300,000 jobs that rely on 3827 02:27:42,647 --> 02:27:45,647 port miami every day to 3828 02:27:46,585 --> 02:27:47,486 feed their families. 3829 02:27:47,486 --> 02:27:47,987 I know you are equipped 3830 02:27:47,987 --> 02:27:48,654 and experienced. 3831 02:27:48,654 --> 02:27:51,556 We also look forward to 3832 02:27:51,556 --> 02:27:52,157 working with you and I 3833 02:27:52,157 --> 02:27:53,250 would be remiss if I 3834 02:27:53,250 --> 02:27:54,250 didn't say very 3835 02:27:54,250 --> 02:27:56,425 passionately that you have 3836 02:27:59,365 --> 02:28:00,266 very big shoes to fill. 3837 02:28:00,266 --> 02:28:01,000 Our former director was an 3838 02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:01,267 extraordinary member of 3839 02:28:01,267 --> 02:28:03,267 our team. 3840 02:28:05,404 --> 02:28:06,500 E MISS Her and 3841 02:28:06,500 --> 02:28:06,973 wish her well, but just 3842 02:28:06,973 --> 02:28:09,373 wanted to share welcoming 3843 02:28:12,110 --> 02:28:12,545 remarks, but also remarks 3844 02:28:12,545 --> 02:28:12,811 saying that the job is 3845 02:28:12,811 --> 02:28:13,612 huge. 3846 02:28:13,612 --> 02:28:14,446 We know you're going to do 3847 02:28:14,446 --> 02:28:16,446 a wonderful job. 3848 02:28:23,289 --> 02:28:24,156 Miami-dade is such a 3849 02:28:24,156 --> 02:28:24,423 unique and extraordinary 3850 02:28:24,423 --> 02:28:25,191 community. 3851 02:28:25,191 --> 02:28:25,659 we look forward to your 3852 02:28:25,659 --> 02:28:26,259 leadership here. 3853 02:28:26,259 --> 02:28:26,726 Once again, 3854 02:28:26,726 --> 02:28:26,960 congratulations and 3855 02:28:26,960 --> 02:28:27,794 welcome. 3856 02:28:27,794 --> 02:28:28,762 Thank you, MR. Chair. 3857 02:28:28,762 --> 02:28:29,362 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3858 02:28:29,362 --> 02:28:29,762 congratulations, MADAME 3859 02:28:29,762 --> 02:28:31,762 Mayor. 3860 02:28:32,432 --> 02:28:32,999 Congratulations and we 3861 02:28:32,999 --> 02:28:33,532 hold you to the fire. 3862 02:28:33,532 --> 02:28:34,367 >> absolutely. 3863 02:28:34,367 --> 02:28:36,767 Look forward to it. 3864 02:28:40,573 --> 02:28:40,941 >> commissioner, future 3865 02:28:40,941 --> 02:28:41,174 director. 3866 02:28:41,174 --> 02:28:41,574 Hold on. 3867 02:28:41,574 --> 02:28:43,974 Don't go so far. 3868 02:28:49,549 --> 02:28:50,149 We've got some more. 3869 02:28:50,149 --> 02:28:51,160 >> yes, I don't know 3870 02:28:51,160 --> 02:28:51,484 whether to say 3871 02:28:51,484 --> 02:28:52,510 congratulations or 3872 02:28:52,510 --> 02:28:52,951 condolences, but I hope 3873 02:28:52,951 --> 02:28:53,619 you stick around for our 3874 02:28:53,619 --> 02:28:53,819 conversation over the port 3875 02:28:53,819 --> 02:28:54,720 bond. 3876 02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:55,220 It will be interesting. 3877 02:28:55,220 --> 02:28:55,487 >> absolutely. 3878 02:28:55,487 --> 02:28:57,487 Yes. 3879 02:28:58,490 --> 02:28:58,757 That was it? 3880 02:28:58,757 --> 02:29:00,757 Gonzalez. 3881 02:29:12,636 --> 02:29:13,638 >> Roberto Gonzalez: I 3882 02:29:13,638 --> 02:29:14,171 think it's clear it's not 3883 02:29:14,171 --> 02:29:14,705 going to be an easy role, 3884 02:29:14,705 --> 02:29:15,573 but I have looked at some 3885 02:29:15,573 --> 02:29:16,140 of the things you've done 3886 02:29:16,140 --> 02:29:16,741 at port everglades and 3887 02:29:16,741 --> 02:29:17,708 port everglades is one of 3888 02:29:17,708 --> 02:29:18,750 the things we have done on 3889 02:29:18,750 --> 02:29:18,642 our heels. 3890 02:29:18,642 --> 02:29:19,376 Almost feels like the 3891 02:29:19,376 --> 02:29:20,110 miami heat right now and 3892 02:29:20,110 --> 02:29:20,377 I'm glad to have you on 3893 02:29:20,377 --> 02:29:22,179 this team. 3894 02:29:22,179 --> 02:29:22,912 >> thank you. 3895 02:29:22,912 --> 02:29:24,912 >> Roberto Gonzalez: it 3896 02:29:27,500 --> 02:29:27,917 won't be easy, but I know 3897 02:29:27,917 --> 02:29:30,917 you're up to the challenge 3898 02:29:34,590 --> 02:29:35,240 and I look forward to 3899 02:29:35,240 --> 02:29:35,958 working with you. 3900 02:29:35,958 --> 02:29:36,559 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3901 02:29:36,559 --> 02:29:38,959 items 2b2, your director 3902 02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:42,298 of the department of 3903 02:29:42,298 --> 02:29:42,998 cultural affairs. 3904 02:29:42,998 --> 02:29:43,799 We have ashley k thomas, a 3905 02:29:43,799 --> 02:29:44,333 miami native with deep 3906 02:29:44,333 --> 02:29:46,733 ties to the miami 3907 02:29:57,545 --> 02:29:58,379 community, a strong -- 3908 02:29:58,379 --> 02:29:59,447 more than 25 years of 3909 02:29:59,447 --> 02:29:59,814 experience across the 3910 02:29:59,814 --> 02:30:00,448 arts, nonprofit 3911 02:30:00,448 --> 02:30:00,881 leadership, and public 3912 02:30:00,881 --> 02:30:01,449 administration. 3913 02:30:01,449 --> 02:30:02,116 Please intro our new 3914 02:30:02,116 --> 02:30:02,349 director of cultural 3915 02:30:02,349 --> 02:30:03,830 affairs. 3916 02:30:03,830 --> 02:30:03,651 > thank you, MR. Chair. 3917 02:30:03,651 --> 02:30:04,840 Once again, thank you for 3918 02:30:04,840 --> 02:30:04,951 being prepped. 3919 02:30:04,951 --> 02:30:05,151 Ashley thomas is a local 3920 02:30:05,151 --> 02:30:05,419 star. 3921 02:30:05,419 --> 02:30:07,419 Homegrown. 3922 02:30:15,195 --> 02:30:15,595 She has risen up through 3923 02:30:15,595 --> 02:30:16,530 the arts world. 3924 02:30:16,530 --> 02:30:17,630 She started her career in 3925 02:30:17,630 --> 02:30:17,730 liberty city and she 3926 02:30:17,730 --> 02:30:20,130 trained with MR. Marshall 3927 02:30:21,601 --> 02:30:22,201 at the african cultural 3928 02:30:22,201 --> 02:30:22,702 heritage center and where 3929 02:30:22,702 --> 02:30:24,702 she learned dance. 3930 02:30:28,774 --> 02:30:29,374 She went on to be a 3931 02:30:29,374 --> 02:30:30,420 professional dancer. 3932 02:30:30,420 --> 02:30:30,442 She went on to write her 3933 02:30:30,442 --> 02:30:31,243 own productions. 3934 02:30:31,243 --> 02:30:33,643 She traveled the world, 3935 02:30:36,581 --> 02:30:37,348 performed in los angeles, 3936 02:30:37,348 --> 02:30:38,820 produced in australia, and 3937 02:30:38,820 --> 02:30:38,383 came here to us in 3938 02:30:38,383 --> 02:30:39,250 miami-dade. 3939 02:30:39,250 --> 02:30:39,684 She has advanced through 3940 02:30:39,684 --> 02:30:41,684 the ranks. 3941 02:30:44,588 --> 02:30:45,122 She has actually advanced 3942 02:30:45,122 --> 02:30:45,723 productions at our own 3943 02:30:45,723 --> 02:30:46,557 arts center, so she has a 3944 02:30:46,557 --> 02:30:47,191 diverse set of experiences 3945 02:30:47,191 --> 02:30:50,191 in the arts and culture 3946 02:30:55,332 --> 02:30:56,399 and she has received rave 3947 02:30:56,399 --> 02:30:56,733 reviews from her cultural 3948 02:30:56,733 --> 02:30:57,400 arts partners. 3949 02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:58,135 So we did a national 3950 02:30:58,135 --> 02:30:58,635 search and it brought us 3951 02:30:58,635 --> 02:30:59,469 right back home. 3952 02:30:59,469 --> 02:31:00,103 I have to say that we 3953 02:31:00,103 --> 02:31:03,103 discovered we have a star 3954 02:31:08,344 --> 02:31:09,211 in our midst and we have 3955 02:31:09,211 --> 02:31:09,779 every confidence that 3956 02:31:09,779 --> 02:31:10,446 under ashley's leadership 3957 02:31:10,446 --> 02:31:11,130 that arts and culture will 3958 02:31:11,130 --> 02:31:11,546 continue not only to 3959 02:31:11,546 --> 02:31:12,414 thrive, but actually to 3960 02:31:12,414 --> 02:31:12,648 even ascend to higher 3961 02:31:12,648 --> 02:31:14,648 heights. 3962 02:31:22,957 --> 02:31:23,624 Very very excited to 3963 02:31:23,624 --> 02:31:24,259 introduce her to you if 3964 02:31:24,259 --> 02:31:25,590 you have not had a chance. 3965 02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:25,693 Just to under score a 3966 02:31:25,693 --> 02:31:26,160 couple of things she has 3967 02:31:26,160 --> 02:31:26,527 managed as interim 3968 02:31:26,527 --> 02:31:26,994 director. 3969 02:31:26,994 --> 02:31:28,290 Guess what? 3970 02:31:28,290 --> 02:31:28,429 Coconut grove playhouse. 3971 02:31:28,429 --> 02:31:30,829 We will have one. 3972 02:31:46,346 --> 02:31:47,113 Thank you, commissioner 3973 02:31:47,113 --> 02:31:47,580 regalado. She has been 3974 02:31:47,580 --> 02:31:48,248 instrumental in that. 3975 02:31:48,248 --> 02:31:48,881 She has also helped us to 3976 02:31:48,881 --> 02:31:49,782 get through some difficult 3977 02:31:49,782 --> 02:31:50,450 budget times here in the 3978 02:31:50,450 --> 02:31:51,250 county with our cultural 3979 02:31:51,250 --> 02:31:52,510 affairs, so I am very 3980 02:31:52,510 --> 02:31:52,818 confident that because of 3981 02:31:52,818 --> 02:31:53,252 her background, her 3982 02:31:53,252 --> 02:31:53,719 character, her 3983 02:31:53,719 --> 02:31:54,353 personality, her 3984 02:31:54,353 --> 02:31:57,353 knowledge, she will be the 3985 02:32:01,326 --> 02:32:01,960 leader that we all are 3986 02:32:01,960 --> 02:32:02,594 striving for, and I'm 3987 02:32:02,594 --> 02:32:03,361 delighted to present to 3988 02:32:03,361 --> 02:32:03,995 you ashley thomas as our 3989 02:32:03,995 --> 02:32:04,229 new director of cultural 3990 02:32:04,229 --> 02:32:04,996 affairs. 3991 02:32:04,996 --> 02:32:05,497 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 3992 02:32:05,497 --> 02:32:07,497 welcome aboard. 3993 02:32:09,634 --> 02:32:10,301 [Applause] All right. 3994 02:32:10,301 --> 02:32:10,835 All right, ashley. 3995 02:32:10,835 --> 02:32:11,469 You're loved. 3996 02:32:11,469 --> 02:32:14,469 You got much less time 3997 02:32:25,849 --> 02:32:26,783 than the cport director. 3998 02:32:26,783 --> 02:32:27,350 He certainly went over his 3999 02:32:27,350 --> 02:32:27,984 time and abused his time, 4000 02:32:27,984 --> 02:32:28,218 but we're going to give it 4001 02:32:28,218 --> 02:32:28,685 to him. 4002 02:32:28,685 --> 02:32:29,352 Go ahead. 4003 02:32:29,352 --> 02:32:29,886 >> thank you, CHAIRMAN 4004 02:32:29,886 --> 02:32:30,219 Rodriguez and MADAME 4005 02:32:30,219 --> 02:32:30,754 Mayor. 4006 02:32:30,754 --> 02:32:31,721 Deputy mayor and to the 4007 02:32:31,721 --> 02:32:33,721 community for this 4008 02:32:33,856 --> 02:32:34,691 opportunity. 4009 02:32:34,691 --> 02:32:35,424 I am local, homegrown, and 4010 02:32:35,424 --> 02:32:36,580 I'll say that art is 4011 02:32:36,580 --> 02:32:37,590 essential to the soul and 4012 02:32:37,590 --> 02:32:37,860 we continue to celebrate 4013 02:32:37,860 --> 02:32:39,895 it and will continue to 4014 02:32:39,895 --> 02:32:40,863 represent the county to 4015 02:32:40,863 --> 02:32:41,464 its full level, so thank 4016 02:32:41,464 --> 02:32:42,331 you, thank you, thank you. 4017 02:32:42,331 --> 02:32:42,765 I'm honored to be here and 4018 02:32:42,765 --> 02:32:44,765 continue the work. 4019 02:32:50,238 --> 02:32:50,705 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4020 02:32:50,705 --> 02:32:51,373 that was short. 4021 02:32:51,373 --> 02:32:53,475 Two rounds of applause. 4022 02:32:53,475 --> 02:32:54,175 Stop, stop, you're talking 4023 02:32:54,175 --> 02:32:56,175 about long meetings. 4024 02:33:09,156 --> 02:33:09,890 >> that's the difference 4025 02:33:09,890 --> 02:33:10,724 she knew to say something 4026 02:33:10,724 --> 02:33:11,324 real quick answer down. 4027 02:33:11,324 --> 02:33:11,491 She knew exactly what to 4028 02:33:11,491 --> 02:33:12,192 do. 4029 02:33:12,192 --> 02:33:13,193 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4030 02:33:13,193 --> 02:33:13,393 cut my man jonathan some 4031 02:33:13,393 --> 02:33:14,160 slack. 4032 02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:14,828 I was giving him a hard 4033 02:33:14,828 --> 02:33:15,294 time because his wife is 4034 02:33:15,294 --> 02:33:16,196 in the room. 4035 02:33:16,196 --> 02:33:16,830 MADAME Attorney, can we do 4036 02:33:16,830 --> 02:33:19,230 the aviation items before 4037 02:33:22,334 --> 02:33:23,269 we go into first readings? 4038 02:33:23,269 --> 02:33:23,836 And I understand we have 4039 02:33:23,836 --> 02:33:24,503 some releases as well. 4040 02:33:24,503 --> 02:33:24,937 >> yes, MR. Chair. 4041 02:33:24,937 --> 02:33:25,805 I have one release. 4042 02:33:25,805 --> 02:33:26,539 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: go 4043 02:33:26,539 --> 02:33:26,772 ahead, let's do the 4044 02:33:26,772 --> 02:33:27,840 release. 4045 02:33:27,840 --> 02:33:28,774 >> I have 8g5 is pulled. 4046 02:33:28,774 --> 02:33:31,900 She was the only pulling 4047 02:33:31,900 --> 02:33:31,677 commissioner. 4048 02:33:31,677 --> 02:33:32,344 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 4049 02:33:32,344 --> 02:33:34,344 8g5, commissioner 4050 02:33:35,413 --> 02:33:36,248 gonzalez moves 8g5 4051 02:33:36,248 --> 02:33:36,481 seconded by commissioner 4052 02:33:36,481 --> 02:33:38,481 gilbert. 4053 02:33:42,860 --> 02:33:42,620 All in favor say aye 4054 02:33:42,620 --> 02:33:45,200 signify by saying aye. 4055 02:33:45,223 --> 02:33:45,456 All opposed, nay. 4056 02:33:45,456 --> 02:33:46,258 Passed. 4057 02:33:46,258 --> 02:33:48,658 >> we have seven, the 4058 02:33:55,701 --> 02:33:56,602 first item is eight a1. 4059 02:33:56,602 --> 02:33:57,202 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 4060 02:33:57,202 --> 02:33:58,103 seconded by gilbert. 4061 02:33:58,103 --> 02:33:58,570 All in favor signify by 4062 02:33:58,570 --> 02:33:59,710 saying aye. 4063 02:33:59,710 --> 02:34:00,372 All opposed, nay. 4064 02:34:00,372 --> 02:34:01,372 >> 8a2. 4065 02:34:01,372 --> 02:34:02,700 >> Mayor Levine Cava: all 4066 02:34:02,700 --> 02:34:05,607 in favor say aye five by 4067 02:34:08,747 --> 02:34:09,281 saying aye. 4068 02:34:09,281 --> 02:34:09,682 All opposed, nay. 4069 02:34:09,682 --> 02:34:10,415 >> 8a3. 4070 02:34:10,415 --> 02:34:11,249 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4071 02:34:11,249 --> 02:34:13,649 moved by cohen higgins, 4072 02:34:15,755 --> 02:34:16,322 seconded by gilbert. 4073 02:34:16,322 --> 02:34:16,722 All in favor say aye. 4074 02:34:16,722 --> 02:34:16,855 So it passed. 4075 02:34:16,855 --> 02:34:17,723 A4. 4076 02:34:17,723 --> 02:34:19,723 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4077 02:34:22,761 --> 02:34:23,395 moved bycohen higgins, 4078 02:34:23,395 --> 02:34:24,229 seconded by gilbert. 4079 02:34:24,229 --> 02:34:27,829 All in favor say aye aye. 4080 02:34:28,668 --> 02:34:28,868 Show it passed. 4081 02:34:28,868 --> 02:34:29,735 8a5. 4082 02:34:29,735 --> 02:34:31,735 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4083 02:34:37,711 --> 02:34:37,944 moved by same, seconded by 4084 02:34:37,944 --> 02:34:38,213 saying. 4085 02:34:38,213 --> 02:34:38,545 It passes. 4086 02:34:38,545 --> 02:34:39,212 >> 8p1. 4087 02:34:39,212 --> 02:34:40,212 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 4088 02:34:40,212 --> 02:34:42,140 moved by same, seconded by 4089 02:34:42,140 --> 02:34:42,715 same. 4090 02:34:42,715 --> 02:34:46,315 All in favor say aye five 4091 02:34:48,321 --> 02:34:48,922 by saying aye. 4092 02:34:48,922 --> 02:34:49,823 Show it passed. 4093 02:34:49,823 --> 02:34:52,725 All in favor say aye five 4094 02:34:52,725 --> 02:34:53,326 by saying aye. 4095 02:34:53,326 --> 02:34:53,726 Opposed, nay. And was not 4096 02:34:53,726 --> 02:34:55,726 the last one? 4097 02:35:08,942 --> 02:35:09,643 >> yes. 4098 02:35:09,643 --> 02:35:10,440 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4099 02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:10,677 all right. 4100 02:35:10,677 --> 02:35:10,844 We got the aviation items 4101 02:35:10,844 --> 02:35:11,678 out. 4102 02:35:11,678 --> 02:35:12,479 Ow MADAME Attorney, 4103 02:35:12,479 --> 02:35:13,120 can you please read the 4104 02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:13,813 first reading items 4105 02:35:13,813 --> 02:35:14,314 including the 14 letter 4106 02:35:14,314 --> 02:35:15,115 first readings as well? 4107 02:35:15,115 --> 02:35:16,160 > yes, MR. CHAIRMAN. 4108 02:35:16,160 --> 02:35:16,551 The first item is 4a in 4109 02:35:16,551 --> 02:35:17,510 the incorporated and 4110 02:35:17,510 --> 02:35:17,718 unincorporated areas 4111 02:35:17,718 --> 02:35:18,519 amending section of the 4112 02:35:18,519 --> 02:35:20,919 code providing approval of 4113 02:35:23,957 --> 02:35:24,558 nonrecorded institutional 4114 02:35:24,558 --> 02:35:25,125 controls with no further 4115 02:35:25,125 --> 02:35:25,960 action for conditions, 4116 02:35:25,960 --> 02:35:26,561 side closures in 4117 02:35:26,561 --> 02:35:27,495 conjunction with site 4118 02:35:27,495 --> 02:35:28,162 cleanups under certain 4119 02:35:28,162 --> 02:35:30,162 circumstances, making 4120 02:36:11,573 --> 02:36:12,240 technical and clarifying 4121 02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:12,441 changes and an effective 4122 02:36:12,441 --> 02:36:13,108 date. 4123 02:36:13,108 --> 02:36:13,742 4b is an ordinance 4124 02:36:13,742 --> 02:36:14,375 relating to hospital 4125 02:36:14,375 --> 02:36:15,176 payments amending article 4126 02:36:15,176 --> 02:36:16,112 4 chapter 18 of the code 4127 02:36:16,112 --> 02:36:17,790 revising definitions 4128 02:36:17,790 --> 02:36:18,800 authorizing electronic 4129 02:36:18,800 --> 02:36:18,614 signatures and electronic 4130 02:36:18,614 --> 02:36:19,810 delivery of documents 4131 02:36:19,810 --> 02:36:20,182 recognizing waivers 4132 02:36:20,182 --> 02:36:20,783 granted by the centers for 4133 02:36:20,783 --> 02:36:21,450 medicare and medicaid 4134 02:36:21,450 --> 02:36:22,117 services expanding the 4135 02:36:22,117 --> 02:36:22,851 scope of medicaid 4136 02:36:22,851 --> 02:36:23,452 supplemental programs 4137 02:36:23,452 --> 02:36:24,186 revising petition review 4138 02:36:24,186 --> 02:36:24,819 and notice positions 4139 02:36:24,819 --> 02:36:25,688 authorizing payment plans, 4140 02:36:25,688 --> 02:36:26,389 authorizing suspension or 4141 02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:27,189 termination of mandatory 4142 02:36:27,189 --> 02:36:27,757 payments by resolution, 4143 02:36:27,757 --> 02:36:28,724 making technical and 4144 02:36:28,724 --> 02:36:29,425 conforming changes and 4145 02:36:29,425 --> 02:36:30,159 providing severability of 4146 02:36:30,159 --> 02:36:30,526 the code and to an 4147 02:36:30,526 --> 02:36:31,160 effective date. 4148 02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:31,860 4c is relating to the 4149 02:36:31,860 --> 02:36:32,228 rapid transit development 4150 02:36:32,228 --> 02:36:32,828 zone. 4151 02:36:32,828 --> 02:36:33,563 amending the metro members 4152 02:36:33,563 --> 02:36:34,163 sums and other rapid 4153 02:36:34,163 --> 02:36:34,896 transit zones providing 4154 02:36:34,896 --> 02:36:35,832 severability, inclusion of 4155 02:36:35,832 --> 02:36:36,320 the code and an effective 4156 02:36:36,320 --> 02:36:36,933 date. 4157 02:36:36,933 --> 02:36:37,734 4d changing the boundaries 4158 02:36:37,734 --> 02:36:38,268 and amending the city 4159 02:36:38,268 --> 02:36:38,935 municipal charger to 4160 02:36:38,935 --> 02:36:40,300 provide for the annexation 4161 02:36:40,300 --> 02:36:40,470 of certain lands pursuant 4162 02:36:40,470 --> 02:36:41,337 to section 604b and 4163 02:36:41,337 --> 02:36:41,937 chapter 20 of the code of 4164 02:36:41,937 --> 02:36:42,405 miami-dade county florida 4165 02:36:42,405 --> 02:36:43,500 related to the 4166 02:36:43,500 --> 02:36:43,606 unincorporated area with 4167 02:36:43,606 --> 02:36:44,507 proximate outer boundaries 4168 02:36:44,507 --> 02:36:45,374 on the north by southwest 4169 02:36:45,374 --> 02:36:45,876 328 by southwest 1/92 4170 02:36:45,876 --> 02:36:46,476 avenue on the sxsw 344 4171 02:36:46,476 --> 02:36:48,476 street and 191 avenue 4172 02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:57,754 providing resolution 4173 02:36:57,754 --> 02:36:58,421 providing for county 4174 02:36:58,421 --> 02:36:59,189 retention of residential 4175 02:36:59,189 --> 02:36:59,923 garbage disposal requiring 4176 02:36:59,923 --> 02:37:00,924 payment of outstanding 4177 02:37:00,924 --> 02:37:01,858 debt service attributable 4178 02:37:01,858 --> 02:37:02,492 to the annexation area 4179 02:37:02,492 --> 02:37:03,930 providing for county 4180 02:37:03,930 --> 02:37:03,859 jurisdiction over certain 4181 02:37:03,859 --> 02:37:04,827 areas and facility of 4182 02:37:04,827 --> 02:37:05,829 countywide significance, 4183 02:37:05,829 --> 02:37:06,563 providing for contingent 4184 02:37:06,563 --> 02:37:07,364 effective date inclusion 4185 02:37:07,364 --> 02:37:10,364 in the code and an 4186 02:37:18,275 --> 02:37:18,876 effective date, 4e is an 4187 02:37:18,876 --> 02:37:19,776 ordinance advisory board 4188 02:37:19,776 --> 02:37:20,344 creating article 172 of 4189 02:37:20,344 --> 02:37:20,811 chapter 2 of the code 4190 02:37:20,811 --> 02:37:21,445 providing for the 4191 02:37:21,445 --> 02:37:21,978 composition and duties of 4192 02:37:21,978 --> 02:37:24,378 the board and other 4193 02:37:25,482 --> 02:37:26,184 related matters providing 4194 02:37:26,184 --> 02:37:27,151 severability inclusion in 4195 02:37:27,151 --> 02:37:27,351 the code and an effective 4196 02:37:27,351 --> 02:37:28,119 date. 4197 02:37:28,119 --> 02:37:28,719 4f district in the county 4198 02:37:28,719 --> 02:37:31,119 generally found in the 4199 02:38:04,890 --> 02:38:04,622 north by southwest on the 4200 02:38:04,622 --> 02:38:05,556 south by c102 canal and 4201 02:38:05,556 --> 02:38:06,910 known and described as 4202 02:38:06,910 --> 02:38:07,920 co-port west street 4203 02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:08,126 lighting special district 4204 02:38:08,126 --> 02:38:09,161 identifying services to be 4205 02:38:09,161 --> 02:38:09,628 provided authorizing and 4206 02:38:09,628 --> 02:38:10,328 directing the mayor 4207 02:38:10,328 --> 02:38:11,129 doesn't need to provide 4208 02:38:11,129 --> 02:38:12,130 for the installation of 4209 02:38:12,130 --> 02:38:13,131 streetlights approving a 4210 02:38:13,131 --> 02:38:14,132 streetlight agreement with 4211 02:38:14,132 --> 02:38:14,766 florida power and light 4212 02:38:14,766 --> 02:38:15,668 and authorizing the mayor 4213 02:38:15,668 --> 02:38:15,935 designee to execute the 4214 02:38:15,935 --> 02:38:16,669 agreement. 4215 02:38:16,669 --> 02:38:17,269 And providing for 4216 02:38:17,269 --> 02:38:17,937 exclusion from the code 4217 02:38:17,937 --> 02:38:18,704 and an effective date. 4218 02:38:18,704 --> 02:38:19,705 4g creating a special 4219 02:38:19,705 --> 02:38:20,372 district -- by theoretical 4220 02:38:20,372 --> 02:38:21,240 southwest 325 street on 4221 02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:21,774 the east sxsw and sxsw 328 4222 02:38:21,774 --> 02:38:22,407 street and on the west 4223 02:38:22,407 --> 02:38:23,308 sxsw richard road known 4224 02:38:23,308 --> 02:38:24,309 and described as harmony 4225 02:38:24,309 --> 02:38:25,711 homes multipurpose special 4226 02:38:25,711 --> 02:38:26,712 tax district identifying 4227 02:38:26,712 --> 02:38:27,379 services to be provided 4228 02:38:27,379 --> 02:38:29,379 authorizing and directing 4229 02:38:35,788 --> 02:38:36,322 the mayor designee to cost 4230 02:38:36,322 --> 02:38:36,756 improvements and to 4231 02:38:36,756 --> 02:38:37,257 provide for the 4232 02:38:37,257 --> 02:38:37,890 installation of 4233 02:38:37,890 --> 02:38:38,758 streetlights approving a 4234 02:38:38,758 --> 02:38:39,292 street vending agreement 4235 02:38:39,292 --> 02:38:40,259 with florida power and 4236 02:38:40,259 --> 02:38:40,859 light and authorizing the 4237 02:38:40,859 --> 02:38:41,994 mayor designee to execute 4238 02:38:41,994 --> 02:38:42,762 the agreement resolution 4239 02:38:42,762 --> 02:38:43,329 and providing exclusion 4240 02:38:43,329 --> 02:38:43,763 from the code and an 4241 02:38:43,763 --> 02:38:44,763 effective date. 4242 02:38:44,763 --> 02:38:45,231 4h is an environment 4243 02:38:45,231 --> 02:38:47,231 protection amending 4244 02:38:52,938 --> 02:38:54,240 sections 425-18 of the 4245 02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:55,241 code revising a definition 4246 02:38:55,241 --> 02:38:56,243 authorizing administrative 4247 02:38:56,243 --> 02:38:57,277 approval of emergency 4248 02:38:57,277 --> 02:38:57,881 generators for healthcare 4249 02:38:57,881 --> 02:38:58,778 facilities and food stores 4250 02:38:58,778 --> 02:38:59,312 within a protection area 4251 02:38:59,312 --> 02:39:00,280 subject to certain 4252 02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:01,810 conditions providing 4253 02:39:01,810 --> 02:39:03,810 severability conclusion in 4254 02:39:05,418 --> 02:39:05,986 the code and an effective 4255 02:39:05,986 --> 02:39:06,587 date relating to 4256 02:39:06,587 --> 02:39:07,120 environmental utility 4257 02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:07,955 service fee amending 4258 02:39:07,955 --> 02:39:08,621 section 24-34 of the code 4259 02:39:08,621 --> 02:39:09,456 establishing loan program 4260 02:39:09,456 --> 02:39:10,157 for purposes of 4261 02:39:10,157 --> 02:39:10,924 environmental remediation 4262 02:39:10,924 --> 02:39:11,458 the means of existing 4263 02:39:11,458 --> 02:39:13,458 requirements. 4264 02:39:22,336 --> 02:39:22,902 Without changing some 4265 02:39:22,902 --> 02:39:23,903 requirements. 4266 02:39:23,903 --> 02:39:24,504 Creating requirements and 4267 02:39:24,504 --> 02:39:25,405 procedures for said loan 4268 02:39:25,405 --> 02:39:25,973 program, providing 4269 02:39:25,973 --> 02:39:26,340 severability and an 4270 02:39:26,340 --> 02:39:27,740 effective date. 4271 02:39:27,740 --> 02:39:27,608 14 a 1 is relating to the 4272 02:39:27,608 --> 02:39:28,750 operation and delivery 4273 02:39:28,750 --> 02:39:28,976 services of mobile 4274 02:39:28,976 --> 02:39:29,410 carriers and that 4275 02:39:29,410 --> 02:39:30,111 incorporated and 4276 02:39:30,111 --> 02:39:30,978 unincorporated areas of 4277 02:39:30,978 --> 02:39:31,545 the county providing 4278 02:39:31,545 --> 02:39:32,446 regulations for safe 4279 02:39:32,446 --> 02:39:32,979 delivery devices and 4280 02:39:32,979 --> 02:39:34,979 carriers providing 4281 02:39:52,666 --> 02:39:53,434 legislative applicability 4282 02:39:53,434 --> 02:39:54,680 -- providing for 4283 02:39:54,680 --> 02:39:54,969 enforcement of civil 4284 02:39:54,969 --> 02:39:55,536 penalty providing 4285 02:39:55,536 --> 02:39:56,238 severability in the code 4286 02:39:56,238 --> 02:39:57,500 and an effective date. 4287 02:39:57,500 --> 02:39:57,539 14 a 5 is relating to 4288 02:39:57,539 --> 02:39:58,540 county procurement 4289 02:39:58,540 --> 02:39:59,174 multiple recommendations 4290 02:39:59,174 --> 02:40:00,108 from the final report of 4291 02:40:00,108 --> 02:40:01,900 the special task force to 4292 02:40:01,900 --> 02:40:01,710 reduce inefficiencies and 4293 02:40:01,710 --> 02:40:02,543 procurement relating to 4294 02:40:02,543 --> 02:40:03,110 bid protest amending 4295 02:40:03,110 --> 02:40:03,544 section of the code 4296 02:40:03,544 --> 02:40:04,450 relating to protest 4297 02:40:04,450 --> 02:40:04,645 procedures amending 4298 02:40:04,645 --> 02:40:05,580 implementing order 3-21 4299 02:40:05,580 --> 02:40:06,480 directing the mayor 4300 02:40:06,480 --> 02:40:06,548 designee to create an 4301 02:40:06,548 --> 02:40:07,490 automated online portal 4302 02:40:07,490 --> 02:40:07,782 for use in the protest 4303 02:40:07,782 --> 02:40:08,550 process and coordination 4304 02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:11,550 with the clerk of the 4305 02:40:13,888 --> 02:40:14,722 board requiring a report 4306 02:40:14,722 --> 02:40:15,390 and exclusion from the 4307 02:40:15,390 --> 02:40:15,591 code and an effective 4308 02:40:15,591 --> 02:40:16,259 date. 4309 02:40:16,259 --> 02:40:16,792 14 a 6 is an ordinance 4310 02:40:16,792 --> 02:40:17,760 relating to county 4311 02:40:17,760 --> 02:40:18,460 procurement multiple 4312 02:40:18,460 --> 02:40:19,795 recommendations from the 4313 02:40:19,795 --> 02:40:20,295 final report of this 4314 02:40:20,295 --> 02:40:21,196 special task force 4315 02:40:21,196 --> 02:40:22,764 amending section 2-11.1 of 4316 02:40:22,764 --> 02:40:23,298 the code relating to the 4317 02:40:23,298 --> 02:40:25,698 cone of silence or 4318 02:40:51,961 --> 02:40:52,562 presentations and 4319 02:40:52,562 --> 02:40:53,296 procurements consistent 4320 02:40:53,296 --> 02:40:54,960 with an exemption of 4321 02:40:54,960 --> 02:40:54,830 florida law and permitting 4322 02:40:54,830 --> 02:40:55,632 orders 3-34 and 3-39 4323 02:40:55,632 --> 02:40:56,366 establishing requirements 4324 02:40:56,366 --> 02:40:56,866 for competitive 4325 02:40:56,866 --> 02:40:57,501 composition scoring 4326 02:40:57,501 --> 02:40:58,368 training and conflict 4327 02:40:58,368 --> 02:40:59,202 tracks creating large 4328 02:40:59,202 --> 02:40:59,902 local employer category 4329 02:40:59,902 --> 02:41:00,903 relating to evaluation 4330 02:41:00,903 --> 02:41:01,571 scoring and acquisition of 4331 02:41:01,571 --> 02:41:02,372 professional services 4332 02:41:02,372 --> 02:41:02,905 agreements limiting use of 4333 02:41:02,905 --> 02:41:03,406 technology and oral 4334 02:41:03,406 --> 02:41:04,407 presentations and 4335 02:41:04,407 --> 02:41:04,974 providing severability and 4336 02:41:04,974 --> 02:41:05,642 exclusion from the code 4337 02:41:05,642 --> 02:41:08,420 and an effective date. 4338 02:41:08,812 --> 02:41:09,846 14 a 7 relating in part 4339 02:41:09,846 --> 02:41:10,480 multiple recommendations 4340 02:41:10,480 --> 02:41:11,381 from the final report of 4341 02:41:11,381 --> 02:41:12,382 the special task force to 4342 02:41:12,382 --> 02:41:13,160 reduce inefficiencies and 4343 02:41:13,160 --> 02:41:13,817 procurement relating to 4344 02:41:13,817 --> 02:41:14,818 small business and local 4345 02:41:14,818 --> 02:41:15,384 preference requirements 4346 02:41:15,384 --> 02:41:17,384 amending sections 4347 02:41:21,325 --> 02:41:22,250 2-10.4.01, two-8.1.1.1.1, 4348 02:41:22,250 --> 02:41:22,825 two-8.1.1.1.2 and 2-5 of 4349 02:41:22,825 --> 02:41:23,826 the code relating to small 4350 02:41:23,826 --> 02:41:24,394 business architecture and 4351 02:41:24,394 --> 02:41:24,895 engineering program 4352 02:41:24,895 --> 02:41:25,495 requirements, small 4353 02:41:25,495 --> 02:41:27,495 business enterprise small 4354 02:41:45,282 --> 02:41:45,884 business enterprise local 4355 02:41:45,884 --> 02:41:46,851 headquartered -- small 4356 02:41:46,851 --> 02:41:47,352 business remedies and 4357 02:41:47,352 --> 02:41:47,852 related procurement 4358 02:41:47,852 --> 02:41:48,553 policies. 4359 02:41:48,553 --> 02:41:49,353 Directing and authorizing 4360 02:41:49,353 --> 02:41:49,954 the mayor to make 4361 02:41:49,954 --> 02:41:50,822 conforming changes to and 4362 02:41:50,822 --> 02:41:51,823 permitting orders and 4363 02:41:51,823 --> 02:41:52,523 providing severability 4364 02:41:52,523 --> 02:41:53,324 inclusion and exclusion 4365 02:41:53,324 --> 02:41:53,691 from the code and an 4366 02:41:53,691 --> 02:41:54,358 effective date. 4367 02:41:54,358 --> 02:41:55,359 14 a as an ordinance 4368 02:41:55,359 --> 02:41:56,270 relating in part multiple 4369 02:41:56,270 --> 02:41:56,861 recommendations from the 4370 02:41:56,861 --> 02:41:57,395 final report of the 4371 02:41:57,395 --> 02:41:58,329 special task force to 4372 02:41:58,329 --> 02:41:59,300 reduce procurement. 4373 02:41:59,300 --> 02:41:59,898 Relating to the conflict 4374 02:41:59,898 --> 02:42:00,498 of interest and code of 4375 02:42:00,498 --> 02:42:02,498 ethics ordinance section 2 4376 02:42:08,373 --> 02:42:08,906 point -- section 4377 02:42:08,906 --> 02:42:09,507 2-8.1.1.1.1 of the code 4378 02:42:09,507 --> 02:42:10,410 relating to the small 4379 02:42:10,410 --> 02:42:10,508 business enterprise 4380 02:42:10,508 --> 02:42:11,343 services program. 4381 02:42:11,343 --> 02:42:12,410 Section 2-8.1.1.1.2 of the 4382 02:42:12,410 --> 02:42:12,977 code relating to the small 4383 02:42:12,977 --> 02:42:14,977 enterprise code program. 4384 02:42:26,359 --> 02:42:27,193 Relating to related 4385 02:42:27,193 --> 02:42:27,826 parties and bid inclusion. 4386 02:42:27,826 --> 02:42:28,694 And section 10-330 to 1 of 4387 02:42:28,694 --> 02:42:29,361 the code relating to bids 4388 02:42:29,361 --> 02:42:30,228 precluded from related 4389 02:42:30,228 --> 02:42:30,829 parties repealing 4390 02:42:30,829 --> 02:42:31,697 resolution r6314 requiring 4391 02:42:31,697 --> 02:42:32,698 certain due diligence 4392 02:42:32,698 --> 02:42:33,398 affidavits providing 4393 02:42:33,398 --> 02:42:34,199 severability, exclusion 4394 02:42:34,199 --> 02:42:34,700 and inclusion and an 4395 02:42:34,700 --> 02:42:35,200 effective date and 4396 02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:35,333 requiring a report. 4397 02:42:35,333 --> 02:42:37,333 Hose 4398 02:42:46,579 --> 02:42:46,979 are your first reading 4399 02:42:46,979 --> 02:42:47,980 items. 4400 02:42:47,980 --> 02:42:48,314 >> attorney, we have some 4401 02:42:48,314 --> 02:42:49,148 bifurcations. 4402 02:42:49,148 --> 02:42:49,482 We have 4b and 14 a 5-14 a 4403 02:42:49,482 --> 02:42:51,482 8. 4404 02:43:05,297 --> 02:43:05,699 >> and 14 a 1 as well. 4405 02:43:05,699 --> 02:43:06,466 >> MR. Chair? 4406 02:43:06,466 --> 02:43:06,901 Who was that, commissioner 4407 02:43:06,901 --> 02:43:07,734 regalado? 4408 02:43:07,734 --> 02:43:08,435 >> Raquel Regalado: I 4409 02:43:08,435 --> 02:43:08,702 pulled the procurement 4410 02:43:08,702 --> 02:43:09,268 ones. 4411 02:43:09,268 --> 02:43:09,970 I guess 14 a 5. 4412 02:43:09,970 --> 02:43:10,303 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4413 02:43:10,303 --> 02:43:11,270 and 14 a 8. 4414 02:43:11,270 --> 02:43:11,871 >> Raquel Regalado: I'm 4415 02:43:11,871 --> 02:43:14,271 happy to release those. 4416 02:43:15,776 --> 02:43:16,276 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 4417 02:43:16,276 --> 02:43:16,543 14 a 5 and 14 a 8 4418 02:43:16,543 --> 02:43:17,211 released. 4419 02:43:17,211 --> 02:43:17,477 And you need to pull 4420 02:43:17,477 --> 02:43:18,211 something? 4421 02:43:18,211 --> 02:43:20,211 Show commissioner cohen 4422 02:43:37,980 --> 02:43:37,265 higgins pullingng motion 4423 02:43:37,265 --> 02:43:38,980 4d. 4424 02:43:38,980 --> 02:43:38,632 Can I have a motion on the 4425 02:43:38,632 --> 02:43:39,500 first reading items? 4426 02:43:39,500 --> 02:43:40,134 >> MR. Chair, I had 4427 02:43:40,134 --> 02:43:41,680 commissioner regalado 4428 02:43:41,680 --> 02:43:41,635 notice also pulling 14 a 4429 02:43:41,635 --> 02:43:42,603 1. It appears she did not. 4430 02:43:42,603 --> 02:43:43,270 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 14 4431 02:43:43,270 --> 02:43:43,570 a 1 is part of the motion 4432 02:43:43,570 --> 02:43:45,570 now. 4433 02:43:45,572 --> 02:43:46,341 Commissioner -- seconded 4434 02:43:46,341 --> 02:43:47,308 by commissioner lopez. 4435 02:43:47,308 --> 02:43:47,575 Adame clerk, please call 4436 02:43:47,575 --> 02:43:49,575 the roll. 4437 02:43:55,416 --> 02:43:55,917 >> Clerk: commissioner 4438 02:43:55,917 --> 02:43:56,484 bastien. 4439 02:43:56,484 --> 02:43:57,151 >> Marleine Bastien: yes. 4440 02:43:57,151 --> 02:43:57,919 >> Clerk: commissioner 4441 02:43:57,919 --> 02:43:58,419 cohen higgins. Senator 4442 02:43:58,419 --> 02:43:59,387 garcia. 4443 02:43:59,387 --> 02:44:00,540 Commissioner gilbert. 4444 02:44:00,540 --> 02:44:02,540 Commissioner gonzalez. 4445 02:44:02,823 --> 02:44:03,791 >> Public Speaker: for. 4446 02:44:03,791 --> 02:44:04,910 >> Clerk: commissioner 4447 02:44:04,910 --> 02:44:06,910 regalado. 4448 02:44:07,963 --> 02:44:08,597 >> Raquel Regalado: yes. 4449 02:44:08,597 --> 02:44:09,970 >> Clerk: vice CHAIRMAN 4450 02:44:09,970 --> 02:44:09,931 Meek Mcghee. 4451 02:44:09,931 --> 02:44:10,980 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 4452 02:44:10,980 --> 02:44:12,980 yes. 4453 02:44:15,771 --> 02:44:16,710 >> Clerk: chairmann 4454 02:44:16,710 --> 02:44:16,738 rodriquez. 4455 02:44:16,738 --> 02:44:17,172 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 4456 02:44:17,172 --> 02:44:19,172 vote yes. 4457 02:44:23,144 --> 02:44:24,790 Senator garcia on 4b,are 4458 02:44:24,790 --> 02:44:26,582 you trying to waive it or? 4459 02:44:26,582 --> 02:44:29,582 >> this is the house bill 4460 02:44:46,869 --> 02:44:47,469 funding bill done previous 4461 02:44:47,469 --> 02:44:48,137 times because of proper 4462 02:44:48,137 --> 02:44:48,904 constraint time, so want 4463 02:44:48,904 --> 02:44:49,471 to make sure it's on the 4464 02:44:49,471 --> 02:44:50,439 agenda for the next. 4465 02:44:50,439 --> 02:44:51,730 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4466 02:44:51,730 --> 02:44:52,740 what meeting exactly did 4467 02:44:52,740 --> 02:44:52,608 you wanted to go on? 4468 02:44:52,608 --> 02:44:52,841 >> the SEPTEMBER 2 4469 02:44:52,841 --> 02:44:53,642 meeting. 4470 02:44:53,642 --> 02:44:53,976 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4471 02:44:53,976 --> 02:44:54,610 SEPTEMBER 2. 4472 02:44:54,610 --> 02:44:55,177 >> if we can do 15 d 1, 4473 02:44:55,177 --> 02:44:56,146 that would be great. 4474 02:44:56,146 --> 02:44:56,780 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 4475 02:44:56,780 --> 02:44:57,614 you will move 4b for the 4476 02:44:57,614 --> 02:44:58,810 second meeting with all 4477 02:44:58,810 --> 02:44:58,581 proper notices. 4478 02:44:58,581 --> 02:45:00,581 MADAME Attorney? 4479 02:45:01,884 --> 02:45:02,418 >> we can do that as a 4480 02:45:02,418 --> 02:45:03,352 procedural motion. 4481 02:45:03,352 --> 02:45:03,552 4b needs to be approved 4482 02:45:03,552 --> 02:45:04,353 first. 4483 02:45:04,353 --> 02:45:05,200 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4484 02:45:05,200 --> 02:45:07,420 senator garcia moves 4b. 4485 02:45:09,259 --> 02:45:09,826 Seconded by senator 4486 02:45:09,826 --> 02:45:10,293 regalado. Clerk, please 4487 02:45:10,293 --> 02:45:12,293 call the roll. 4488 02:45:18,568 --> 02:45:19,569 >> Clerk: commissioner 4489 02:45:19,569 --> 02:45:20,690 bermudez. Commissioner 4490 02:45:20,690 --> 02:45:20,770 gilbert. 4491 02:45:20,770 --> 02:45:21,638 Commissioner gonzalez. 4492 02:45:21,638 --> 02:45:23,638 >> Roberto Gonzalez: for. 4493 02:45:24,641 --> 02:45:24,941 >> Clerk: commissioner 4494 02:45:24,941 --> 02:45:25,608 regalado. 4495 02:45:25,608 --> 02:45:26,577 >> Raquel Regalado: yes. 4496 02:45:26,577 --> 02:45:28,577 >> Clerk: commissioner 4497 02:45:30,470 --> 02:45:30,313 steinberg? Vice CHAIRMAN 4498 02:45:30,313 --> 02:45:31,214 Mcghee. 4499 02:45:31,214 --> 02:45:31,381 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 4500 02:45:31,381 --> 02:45:33,381 yes. 4501 02:45:34,851 --> 02:45:35,151 >> Clerk: motion passes 4502 02:45:35,151 --> 02:45:35,953 unanimously. 4503 02:45:35,953 --> 02:45:36,553 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4504 02:45:36,553 --> 02:45:37,388 you want to make a motion 4505 02:45:37,388 --> 02:45:40,988 at this time to waive the 4506 02:45:46,863 --> 02:45:47,797 rules or whatnot? 4507 02:45:47,797 --> 02:45:48,310 >> so moved to SEPTEMBER 1 4508 02:45:48,310 --> 02:45:49,299 meeting. 4509 02:45:49,299 --> 02:45:49,832 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4510 02:45:49,832 --> 02:45:50,200 moved by senator garcia. 4511 02:45:50,200 --> 02:45:52,200 Jerry, go ahead? 4512 02:46:08,550 --> 02:46:09,510 >> can we go ahead and 4513 02:46:09,510 --> 02:46:10,510 read that motion? 4514 02:46:10,510 --> 02:46:10,252 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: go 4515 02:46:10,252 --> 02:46:11,252 ahead. 4516 02:46:11,252 --> 02:46:12,860 >> senator garcia moves to 4517 02:46:12,860 --> 02:46:12,654 want to suspend the rules 4518 02:46:12,654 --> 02:46:13,288 and waive committee review 4519 02:46:13,288 --> 02:46:14,122 as to item 4b to amend 4520 02:46:14,122 --> 02:46:14,723 item 15 b 1 to set second 4521 02:46:14,723 --> 02:46:15,657 reading on item 4b at the 4522 02:46:15,657 --> 02:46:16,624 SEPTEMBER 1, 2026 board of 4523 02:46:16,624 --> 02:46:17,625 commissioners meeting, to 4524 02:46:17,625 --> 02:46:19,625 redirect set appropriate 4525 02:46:29,569 --> 02:46:30,103 notices and clerk of the 4526 02:46:30,103 --> 02:46:30,570 board publish all 4527 02:46:30,570 --> 02:46:31,371 necessary notices. 4528 02:46:31,371 --> 02:46:32,710 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: we 4529 02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:32,606 have a motion by senator 4530 02:46:32,606 --> 02:46:33,306 garcia, seconded by 4531 02:46:33,306 --> 02:46:34,140 commissioner lopez, all in 4532 02:46:34,140 --> 02:46:34,307 favor signify by saying 4533 02:46:34,307 --> 02:46:35,108 aye. 4534 02:46:35,108 --> 02:46:35,341 All opposed nay. Show it 4535 02:46:35,341 --> 02:46:36,108 passed. 4536 02:46:36,108 --> 02:46:36,876 Can you read my motion 4537 02:46:36,876 --> 02:46:37,210 along the same lines as 4538 02:46:37,210 --> 02:46:37,811 well? 4539 02:46:37,811 --> 02:46:38,678 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriguez 4540 02:46:38,678 --> 02:46:41,678 moves to want to suspend 4541 02:46:43,949 --> 02:46:44,516 procedures and waive to 4542 02:46:44,516 --> 02:46:45,840 amend item 15 b 1 to 4543 02:46:45,840 --> 02:46:45,985 suspend public hearing and 4544 02:46:45,985 --> 02:46:46,719 second readings for these 4545 02:46:46,719 --> 02:46:47,419 items at the SEPTEMBER 1, 4546 02:46:47,419 --> 02:46:48,530 2026 board meeting and 4547 02:46:48,530 --> 02:46:48,587 direct the clerk of the 4548 02:46:48,587 --> 02:46:50,987 board to post all 4549 02:46:58,229 --> 02:46:58,829 necessary items delmer 4550 02:46:58,829 --> 02:46:59,300 notices related to these 4551 02:46:59,300 --> 02:46:59,731 items. 4552 02:46:59,731 --> 02:47:00,732 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4553 02:47:00,732 --> 02:47:01,399 seconded by commissioner 4554 02:47:01,399 --> 02:47:02,233 steinberg. All those in 4555 02:47:02,233 --> 02:47:02,400 favor signify by saying 4556 02:47:02,400 --> 02:47:02,834 aye. 4557 02:47:02,834 --> 02:47:03,467 All opposed, nay. 4558 02:47:03,467 --> 02:47:03,734 Commissioner Mcghee moves 4559 02:47:03,734 --> 02:47:05,734 4d. 4560 02:47:08,720 --> 02:47:08,672 Seconded y commissioner. 4561 02:47:08,672 --> 02:47:11,672 And I know you bifurcated, 4562 02:47:13,177 --> 02:47:13,710 but you can't speak on it. 4563 02:47:13,710 --> 02:47:13,911 Clerk, please call the 4564 02:47:13,911 --> 02:47:15,911 roll. 4565 02:47:22,552 --> 02:47:23,190 >> Clerk: mission or 4566 02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:23,686 cohen higgins. 4567 02:47:23,686 --> 02:47:23,853 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 4568 02:47:23,853 --> 02:47:25,540 no. 4569 02:47:25,540 --> 02:47:25,621 >> Clerk: senator garcia. 4570 02:47:25,621 --> 02:47:26,522 Commissioner gilbert. 4571 02:47:26,522 --> 02:47:28,522 I'm sorry? 4572 02:47:31,393 --> 02:47:32,394 Commissioner gonzalez. 4573 02:47:32,394 --> 02:47:33,280 >> Roberto Gonzalez: for. 4574 02:47:33,280 --> 02:47:33,228 >> Clerk: commissioner 4575 02:47:33,228 --> 02:47:33,762 lopez. 4576 02:47:33,762 --> 02:47:35,630 Ommissioner 4577 02:47:35,630 --> 02:47:35,364 orbis. Commissioner 4578 02:47:35,364 --> 02:47:36,131 regalado. 4579 02:47:36,131 --> 02:47:38,131 >> Raquel Regalado: yes. 4580 02:47:43,238 --> 02:47:43,504 >> Clerk: commissioner 4581 02:47:43,504 --> 02:47:44,205 bastien. 4582 02:47:44,205 --> 02:47:45,140 >> Marleine Bastien: yes. 4583 02:47:45,140 --> 02:47:45,406 >> Clerk: vice CHAIRMAN 4584 02:47:45,406 --> 02:47:46,174 Mcghee. 4585 02:47:46,174 --> 02:47:46,340 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 4586 02:47:46,340 --> 02:47:48,340 yes. 4587 02:47:52,280 --> 02:47:52,813 >> Clerk:: CHAIRMAN 4588 02:47:52,813 --> 02:47:53,380 Rodriquez. 4589 02:47:53,380 --> 02:47:53,547 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4590 02:47:53,547 --> 02:47:54,810 yes. 4591 02:47:54,810 --> 02:47:54,915 Thank you very much. 4592 02:47:54,915 --> 02:47:55,416 That concludes our first 4593 02:47:55,416 --> 02:47:55,950 reading items. 4594 02:47:55,950 --> 02:47:57,950 MADAME Attorney.. 4595 02:48:02,255 --> 02:48:03,900 I will recognize first -- 4596 02:48:03,900 --> 02:48:05,692 I'm gonna go ahead and 4597 02:48:05,692 --> 02:48:06,292 recognize commissioner 4598 02:48:06,292 --> 02:48:07,160 gilbert for a motion. 4599 02:48:07,160 --> 02:48:09,560 I was gonna start 4600 02:48:18,537 --> 02:48:19,371 somewhere else, but we'll 4601 02:48:19,371 --> 02:48:20,305 start there. 4602 02:48:20,305 --> 02:48:20,939 Commissioner gilbert, you 4603 02:48:20,939 --> 02:48:21,373 are recognized to make a 4604 02:48:21,373 --> 02:48:22,700 motion. 4605 02:48:22,700 --> 02:48:22,574 >> Oliver Gilbert: thank 4606 02:48:22,574 --> 02:48:23,375 you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 4607 02:48:23,375 --> 02:48:24,900 I have a motion to 4608 02:48:24,900 --> 02:48:24,910 reconsider on the port 4609 02:48:24,910 --> 02:48:27,910 item that we determined we 4610 02:48:30,715 --> 02:48:31,282 decided at our last 4611 02:48:31,282 --> 02:48:31,949 meeting there's some 4612 02:48:31,949 --> 02:48:32,717 technical changes that 4613 02:48:32,717 --> 02:48:33,518 came to light after we 4614 02:48:33,518 --> 02:48:34,252 engaged the consultant 4615 02:48:34,252 --> 02:48:34,919 expert that we need to 4616 02:48:34,919 --> 02:48:38,289 make, so I'm going to make 4617 02:48:38,289 --> 02:48:39,156 a motion to consider. 4618 02:48:39,156 --> 02:48:41,156 >> second. 4619 02:48:42,893 --> 02:48:43,494 >> it's been moved to 4620 02:48:43,494 --> 02:48:45,494 reconsider seconded by 4621 02:48:52,350 --> 02:48:52,736 commissioner regalado. 4622 02:48:52,736 --> 02:48:53,503 Seconded by commissioner 4623 02:48:53,503 --> 02:48:54,700 cohen higgins. It's a 4624 02:48:54,700 --> 02:48:54,270 little -- they sound 4625 02:48:54,270 --> 02:48:55,505 alike. 4626 02:48:55,505 --> 02:48:59,105 I thought it was a good 4627 02:49:09,751 --> 02:49:10,180 day. 4628 02:49:10,180 --> 02:49:10,685 Not today. 4629 02:49:10,685 --> 02:49:10,886 >> I mean not today, 4630 02:49:10,886 --> 02:49:11,786 satan. 4631 02:49:11,786 --> 02:49:12,754 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4632 02:49:12,754 --> 02:49:13,421 all in favor say aye the 4633 02:49:13,421 --> 02:49:14,255 reconsideration signify by 4634 02:49:14,255 --> 02:49:14,756 saying aye. 4635 02:49:14,756 --> 02:49:15,890 Opposed, nay. Show it 4636 02:49:15,890 --> 02:49:15,757 reconsidered. 4637 02:49:15,757 --> 02:49:15,990 >> I moved item as 4638 02:49:15,990 --> 02:49:17,990 amended. 4639 02:49:22,930 --> 02:49:23,197 We have some technical 4640 02:49:23,197 --> 02:49:23,997 things -- 4641 02:49:23,997 --> 02:49:24,598 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: if 4642 02:49:24,598 --> 02:49:25,980 the attorneys could read 4643 02:49:25,980 --> 02:49:26,000 the amendment. 4644 02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:26,400 >> they are going to read 4645 02:49:26,400 --> 02:49:27,101 it to us. 4646 02:49:27,101 --> 02:49:28,680 >> commissioner regalado. 4647 02:49:28,680 --> 02:49:28,769 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 4648 02:49:28,769 --> 02:49:29,636 just asked him to read it. 4649 02:49:29,636 --> 02:49:30,170 I literally heard that 4650 02:49:30,170 --> 02:49:30,704 before I heard you say 4651 02:49:30,704 --> 02:49:31,380 your self on the 4652 02:49:31,380 --> 02:49:32,773 microphone. 4653 02:49:32,773 --> 02:49:33,400 Go ahead and read the 4654 02:49:33,400 --> 02:49:33,773 amendment. 4655 02:49:33,773 --> 02:49:35,475 >> to replace exhibits a 4656 02:49:35,475 --> 02:49:38,475 and b with new exhibits 4657 02:49:38,778 --> 02:49:41,778 that have been filed with 4658 02:49:43,850 --> 02:49:44,784 the clerk on page mdc 0122 4659 02:49:44,784 --> 02:49:45,318 -- three incorporate the 4660 02:49:45,318 --> 02:49:47,318 amendments and authorize 4661 02:49:48,154 --> 02:49:50,554 the mayor mayor designee 4662 02:49:56,561 --> 02:49:57,495 to correct -- alter the 4663 02:49:57,495 --> 02:49:57,762 property interest to be 4664 02:49:57,762 --> 02:49:58,596 acquired. 4665 02:49:58,596 --> 02:49:58,863 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4666 02:49:58,863 --> 02:49:59,564 all right. 4667 02:49:59,564 --> 02:50:02,564 We have a motion and 4668 02:50:08,972 --> 02:50:09,640 second. 4669 02:50:09,640 --> 02:50:10,241 >> the reason for us is 4670 02:50:10,241 --> 02:50:12,641 because we are amending 4671 02:50:13,844 --> 02:50:14,678 the legalal description. 4672 02:50:14,678 --> 02:50:15,179 We are amending the legal 4673 02:50:15,179 --> 02:50:17,179 description again. 4674 02:50:36,965 --> 02:50:37,432 Is is this making it 4675 02:50:37,432 --> 02:50:38,000 smaller or bigger? 4676 02:50:38,000 --> 02:50:38,500 Because we have a few 4677 02:50:38,500 --> 02:50:39,434 easements on here. 4678 02:50:39,434 --> 02:50:40,135 There's a different 4679 02:50:40,135 --> 02:50:40,969 description, but does this 4680 02:50:40,969 --> 02:50:41,503 increase of the footprint 4681 02:50:41,503 --> 02:50:42,437 that we have from the 4682 02:50:42,437 --> 02:50:43,710 prior item or decrease it? 4683 02:50:43,710 --> 02:50:43,505 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4684 02:50:43,505 --> 02:50:44,472 the attorneys are 4685 02:50:44,472 --> 02:50:44,739 recognized to answer the 4686 02:50:44,739 --> 02:50:45,673 question. 4687 02:50:45,673 --> 02:50:46,607 >> it's the same easement. 4688 02:50:46,607 --> 02:50:47,410 >> so it's just ownership? 4689 02:50:47,410 --> 02:50:47,642 >> no. 4690 02:50:47,642 --> 02:50:50,420 There is a discrepancy 4691 02:50:58,886 --> 02:50:59,853 between the he easement 4692 02:50:59,853 --> 02:51:00,721 that should be clarified. 4693 02:51:00,721 --> 02:51:01,455 For our benefit really 4694 02:51:01,455 --> 02:51:02,255 during the litigation, but 4695 02:51:02,255 --> 02:51:02,856 the intention is not to 4696 02:51:02,856 --> 02:51:03,457 change the easement that's 4697 02:51:03,457 --> 02:51:04,224 been used, so it's the 4698 02:51:04,224 --> 02:51:04,490 same as what's been used 4699 02:51:04,490 --> 02:51:05,358 all along. 4700 02:51:05,358 --> 02:51:05,959 >> so in terms of the size 4701 02:51:05,959 --> 02:51:06,793 of the parcel, we're still 4702 02:51:06,793 --> 02:51:08,793 staying within the 4703 02:51:11,564 --> 02:51:12,165 existing footprint of what 4704 02:51:12,165 --> 02:51:12,765 t we need for the fuel 4705 02:51:12,765 --> 02:51:13,199 facility, which was the 4706 02:51:13,199 --> 02:51:14,133 prior amendment? 4707 02:51:14,133 --> 02:51:14,566 >> that is correct. 4708 02:51:14,566 --> 02:51:15,201 >> thank you. 4709 02:51:15,201 --> 02:51:15,768 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4710 02:51:15,768 --> 02:51:16,535 with that, all in favorite 4711 02:51:16,535 --> 02:51:16,836 of the motion signify by 4712 02:51:16,836 --> 02:51:17,569 saying aye. 4713 02:51:17,569 --> 02:51:18,304 All imposed, nay. 4714 02:51:18,304 --> 02:51:19,638 Show that item passed with 4715 02:51:19,638 --> 02:51:20,720 two no votes. 4716 02:51:20,720 --> 02:51:22,720 All right. 4717 02:51:24,176 --> 02:51:27,776 Now I will take up 7d, 4718 02:51:30,648 --> 02:51:31,149 the calorie -- tractor 4719 02:51:31,149 --> 02:51:31,849 application. 4720 02:51:31,849 --> 02:51:34,249 MADAME Attorney, let's go 4721 02:51:35,987 --> 02:51:36,621 ahead and take that item. 4722 02:51:36,621 --> 02:51:37,555 >> yes, MR. Chair. 4723 02:51:37,555 --> 02:51:38,220 I need to read this item. 4724 02:51:38,220 --> 02:51:40,220 One second. 4725 02:51:51,635 --> 02:51:52,350 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4726 02:51:52,350 --> 02:51:52,736 you got your time. 4727 02:51:52,736 --> 02:51:53,636 >> 7d is an ordinance 4728 02:51:53,636 --> 02:51:54,337 relating to miami-dade 4729 02:51:54,337 --> 02:51:55,138 comprehensive development 4730 02:51:55,138 --> 02:51:55,839 master plan providing 4731 02:51:55,839 --> 02:51:56,673 disposition of application 4732 02:51:56,673 --> 02:51:57,273 number cdm p 23 13 located 4733 02:51:57,273 --> 02:51:59,273 west of northwest 1/37 4734 02:52:02,178 --> 02:52:02,812 avenue and sr836 filed by 4735 02:52:02,812 --> 02:52:03,379 kelly tractor company in 4736 02:52:03,379 --> 02:52:04,180 the MAY 2023 cycle to 4737 02:52:04,180 --> 02:52:06,180 amend the county 4738 02:52:08,883 --> 02:52:09,751 comprehensivefilament 4739 02:52:09,751 --> 02:52:10,385 master plan providing 4740 02:52:10,385 --> 02:52:11,320 severability exclusion 4741 02:52:11,320 --> 02:52:14,320 from the phot delmer code 4742 02:52:14,589 --> 02:52:15,323 and exclusion 4743 02:52:15,323 --> 02:52:16,570 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4744 02:52:16,570 --> 02:52:17,125 was that the supplement 4745 02:52:17,125 --> 02:52:17,325 and second supplement as 4746 02:52:17,325 --> 02:52:19,325 well? 4747 02:52:26,701 --> 02:52:27,268 >> that's witht's with 4748 02:52:27,268 --> 02:52:28,135 three supplements. 4749 02:52:28,135 --> 02:52:28,402 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 4750 02:52:28,402 --> 02:52:29,136 all right. 4751 02:52:29,136 --> 02:52:29,670 i have the item before us, 4752 02:52:29,670 --> 02:52:30,304 public hearing has been 4753 02:52:30,304 --> 02:52:30,804 had on this item already. 4754 02:52:30,804 --> 02:52:32,439 >> I'll move it. 4755 02:52:32,439 --> 02:52:33,373 >> commissioner bermudez 4756 02:52:33,373 --> 02:52:35,342 moves the item seconded by 4757 02:52:35,342 --> 02:52:35,909 commissioner gonzalez. 4758 02:52:35,909 --> 02:52:36,409 Commissioner you are 4759 02:52:36,409 --> 02:52:38,409 recognized. 4760 02:52:38,511 --> 02:52:39,145 >> thank you. 4761 02:52:39,145 --> 02:52:39,679 I just want to walk 4762 02:52:39,679 --> 02:52:40,547 through the changes. 4763 02:52:40,547 --> 02:52:43,547 I know that we discussed 4764 02:52:52,424 --> 02:52:53,125 this item a lot and I 't 4765 02:52:53,125 --> 02:52:53,926 want to belabor the point, 4766 02:52:53,926 --> 02:52:54,559 but I think the changes 4767 02:52:54,559 --> 02:52:55,394 made to date have really 4768 02:52:55,394 --> 02:52:56,610 changed dramatically this 4769 02:52:56,610 --> 02:52:59,661 item and I hope that the 4770 02:53:03,000 --> 02:53:03,668 board will consider these 4771 02:53:03,668 --> 02:53:04,302 requirements in the future 4772 02:53:04,302 --> 02:53:05,637 because I think that it's 4773 02:53:05,637 --> 02:53:06,637 a way for us to change the 4774 02:53:06,637 --> 02:53:07,138 conversation in terms of 4775 02:53:07,138 --> 02:53:07,672 preservation. 4776 02:53:07,672 --> 02:53:08,272 First and foremost, I 4777 02:53:08,272 --> 02:53:11,272 filed that item to change 4778 02:53:22,552 --> 02:53:23,253 the text amendment, so I 4779 02:53:23,253 --> 02:53:24,870 think many were concerned 4780 02:53:24,870 --> 02:53:24,754 the tax amendment would be 4781 02:53:24,754 --> 02:53:25,655 abused, so I hope this is 4782 02:53:25,655 --> 02:53:26,890 the last one we see that 4783 02:53:26,890 --> 02:53:27,900 chooses the vehicle 4784 02:53:27,900 --> 02:53:27,895 without the parameters. 4785 02:53:27,895 --> 02:53:28,524 That being said, as part 4786 02:53:28,524 --> 02:53:29,325 of this application we 4787 02:53:29,325 --> 02:53:29,892 added a lot of those 4788 02:53:29,892 --> 02:53:30,426 parameters even though the 4789 02:53:30,426 --> 02:53:31,270 tax amendment did not 4790 02:53:31,270 --> 02:53:34,270 require them, and I want 4791 02:53:38,901 --> 02:53:39,435 to thank the applicant for 4792 02:53:39,435 --> 02:53:39,601 walking through that with 4793 02:53:39,601 --> 02:53:40,435 us. 4794 02:53:40,435 --> 02:53:41,103 For those of you that have 4795 02:53:41,103 --> 02:53:41,836 had the opportunity to 4796 02:53:41,836 --> 02:53:42,537 read the final memo by 4797 02:53:42,537 --> 02:53:43,710 staff, we do have staff in 4798 02:53:43,710 --> 02:53:46,671 favor of a lot of the 4799 02:53:47,175 --> 02:53:47,642 changes that we've made. 4800 02:53:47,642 --> 02:53:48,243 First and foremost, i 4801 02:53:48,243 --> 02:53:49,210 think one of the lessons 4802 02:53:49,210 --> 02:53:49,744 learned from this 4803 02:53:49,744 --> 02:53:52,144 application is that land 4804 02:53:56,985 --> 02:53:57,684 that is coveted can later 4805 02:53:57,684 --> 02:53:58,786 many years later after it 4806 02:53:58,786 --> 02:54:01,186 is preserved there could 4807 02:54:05,920 --> 02:54:05,625 be a request to move that 4808 02:54:05,625 --> 02:54:06,460 company and one of the 4809 02:54:06,460 --> 02:54:07,461 things this application is 4810 02:54:07,461 --> 02:54:08,610 doing is we are asking for 4811 02:54:08,610 --> 02:54:08,561 ownership by the county 4812 02:54:08,561 --> 02:54:08,962 specifically heal for 4813 02:54:08,962 --> 02:54:10,962 those properties. 4814 02:54:27,679 --> 02:54:28,683 And I think that that is 4815 02:54:28,683 --> 02:54:29,113 the best path forward. 4816 02:54:29,113 --> 02:54:29,648 I think if we truly 4817 02:54:29,648 --> 02:54:30,215 believe that these lands 4818 02:54:30,215 --> 02:54:31,416 are important, we are 4819 02:54:31,416 --> 02:54:32,183 asking a developer to 4820 02:54:32,183 --> 02:54:33,840 preserve and restore them, 4821 02:54:33,840 --> 02:54:33,918 we should have ownership 4822 02:54:33,918 --> 02:54:34,486 and one of the things this 4823 02:54:34,486 --> 02:54:35,253 application does is not 4824 02:54:35,253 --> 02:54:36,200 only grant ownership to 4825 02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:36,654 the county should the 4826 02:54:36,654 --> 02:54:37,288 county want it because 4827 02:54:37,288 --> 02:54:38,890 there could be a world in 4828 02:54:38,890 --> 02:54:38,723 which the county does not 4829 02:54:38,723 --> 02:54:41,723 want to preserve land, but 4830 02:54:59,208 --> 02:54:59,708 it also has a maintenance 4831 02:54:59,708 --> 02:54:59,975 fee baked into the 4832 02:54:59,975 --> 02:55:00,743 agreement. 4833 02:55:00,743 --> 02:55:01,377 So if we could just have a 4834 02:55:01,377 --> 02:55:02,211 clarification from the 4835 02:55:02,211 --> 02:55:02,845 applicant as to how that 4836 02:55:02,845 --> 02:55:03,746 would work because as many 4837 02:55:03,746 --> 02:55:04,413 of you know our program is 4838 02:55:04,413 --> 02:55:05,214 desperately underfunded. 4839 02:55:05,214 --> 02:55:05,848 This would go under the 4840 02:55:05,848 --> 02:55:06,715 yule portfolio and we want 4841 02:55:06,715 --> 02:55:07,749 to make sure that neil has 4842 02:55:07,749 --> 02:55:08,170 the ability to maintain it 4843 02:55:08,170 --> 02:55:08,784 properly. 4844 02:55:08,784 --> 02:55:09,384 >> sure, commissioner. 4845 02:55:09,384 --> 02:55:10,319 Hrough the chair, if I 4846 02:55:10,319 --> 02:55:13,319 MAY, I just wanted to 4847 02:55:24,310 --> 02:55:24,632 clarify. 4848 02:55:24,632 --> 02:55:25,499 We have two options. 4849 02:55:25,499 --> 02:55:26,167 We can maintain it 4850 02:55:26,167 --> 02:55:26,701 ourselves to alleviate 4851 02:55:26,701 --> 02:55:27,601 some of the burden on 4852 02:55:27,601 --> 02:55:28,169 yule, otherwise we would 4853 02:55:28,169 --> 02:55:28,769 preserve some funding 4854 02:55:28,769 --> 02:55:29,537 mechanism to make sure it 4855 02:55:29,537 --> 02:55:30,103 is taken care of 4856 02:55:30,103 --> 02:55:31,305 perpetually, but the 4857 02:55:31,305 --> 02:55:31,772 applicant is open to doing 4858 02:55:31,772 --> 02:55:32,472 maintenance on it 4859 02:55:32,472 --> 02:55:33,340 themselves on that land. 4860 02:55:33,340 --> 02:55:35,740 >> so we're assaying the 4861 02:55:46,120 --> 02:55:46,786 application now says if 4862 02:55:46,786 --> 02:55:47,688 the county has the ability 4863 02:55:47,688 --> 02:55:48,288 to reject ownership if the 4864 02:55:48,288 --> 02:55:49,890 county decides not to do 4865 02:55:49,890 --> 02:55:49,856 it, then you have the 4866 02:55:49,856 --> 02:55:50,657 obligation to preserve it, 4867 02:55:50,657 --> 02:55:51,258 but I really want the 4868 02:55:51,258 --> 02:55:51,991 county to own it. 4869 02:55:51,991 --> 02:55:52,726 I really think that's the 4870 02:55:52,726 --> 02:55:53,226 best path forward to us. 4871 02:55:53,226 --> 02:55:53,793 N page 12 of the 4872 02:55:53,793 --> 02:55:54,327 declaration of 4873 02:55:54,327 --> 02:55:56,327 restrictions, and for 4874 02:56:00,634 --> 02:56:01,468 those that are watching I 4875 02:56:01,468 --> 02:56:02,102 just want to say this 4876 02:56:02,102 --> 02:56:02,669 information is in the 4877 02:56:02,669 --> 02:56:03,136 actual covenant. 4878 02:56:03,136 --> 02:56:05,136 It's on page 13. 4879 02:56:05,271 --> 02:56:06,307 But on page 12 number 4880 02:56:06,307 --> 02:56:07,508 seven for the preservation 4881 02:56:07,508 --> 02:56:09,908 area, so we're talking 4882 02:56:35,937 --> 02:56:36,405 about two different 4883 02:56:36,405 --> 02:56:37,305 parcels, right? 4884 02:56:37,305 --> 02:56:38,339 We're talking about the 4885 02:56:38,339 --> 02:56:38,940 existing preservation area 4886 02:56:38,940 --> 02:56:39,774 and number seven says if 4887 02:56:39,774 --> 02:56:40,508 the owner wishes to convey 4888 02:56:40,508 --> 02:56:41,342 the reservation area the 4889 02:56:41,342 --> 02:56:41,876 owner shall convey the 4890 02:56:41,876 --> 02:56:42,477 reservation area at no 4891 02:56:42,477 --> 02:56:43,244 cost to the county and 4892 02:56:43,244 --> 02:56:43,978 provide a mechanism that 4893 02:56:43,978 --> 02:56:44,445 maintains the preservation 4894 02:56:44,445 --> 02:56:45,279 area, correct? 4895 02:56:45,279 --> 02:56:45,447 That's what you have on 4896 02:56:45,447 --> 02:56:46,114 12? 4897 02:56:46,114 --> 02:56:46,782 >> that is correct. 4898 02:56:46,782 --> 02:56:47,816 >> I would like it to be 4899 02:56:47,816 --> 02:56:51,416 that in verse just as it 4900 02:56:52,187 --> 02:56:52,721 is in the next page. 4901 02:56:52,721 --> 02:56:53,388 the next page has the 4902 02:56:53,388 --> 02:56:54,155 owner shall dedicate and 4903 02:56:54,155 --> 02:56:54,689 convey these additional 4904 02:56:54,689 --> 02:56:55,223 off-site wetland 4905 02:56:55,223 --> 02:56:55,891 preservation areas to 4906 02:56:55,891 --> 02:56:56,658 miami-dade county eel 4907 02:56:56,658 --> 02:56:57,326 program at no cost to 4908 02:56:57,326 --> 02:56:59,595 miami-dade county and in 4909 02:56:59,595 --> 02:56:59,895 natural freestate of 4910 02:56:59,895 --> 02:57:00,662 vegetation. 4911 02:57:00,662 --> 02:57:00,863 In seven, I would like the 4912 02:57:00,863 --> 02:57:01,663 same. 4913 02:57:01,663 --> 02:57:02,297 I don't want the owner to 4914 02:57:02,297 --> 02:57:03,165 decide if they're going to 4915 02:57:03,165 --> 02:57:03,365 give the presentation to 4916 02:57:03,365 --> 02:57:05,365 evil. 4917 02:57:17,980 --> 02:57:18,514 I want neil to have the 4918 02:57:18,514 --> 02:57:19,181 first right of refusal. 4919 02:57:19,181 --> 02:57:20,490 If yule doesn't want them 4920 02:57:20,490 --> 02:57:20,650 than the owner would 4921 02:57:20,650 --> 02:57:20,850 maintain them and preserve 4922 02:57:20,850 --> 02:57:21,650 them. 4923 02:57:21,650 --> 02:57:22,218 So could we have that same 4924 02:57:22,218 --> 02:57:22,718 language that we have on 4925 02:57:22,718 --> 02:57:23,285 page 13 on page 12? 4926 02:57:23,285 --> 02:57:24,190 >> yes, that's fine. 4927 02:57:24,190 --> 02:57:24,286 > wonderful. 4928 02:57:24,286 --> 02:57:26,286 Thank you. 4929 02:57:36,466 --> 02:57:37,100 On page 14 we also added 4930 02:57:37,100 --> 02:57:37,601 if there is a need for a 4931 02:57:37,601 --> 02:57:38,234 pump station that is 4932 02:57:38,234 --> 02:57:38,968 required for water and 4933 02:57:38,968 --> 02:57:39,536 sewer agreement on the 4934 02:57:39,536 --> 02:57:40,170 request property, the 4935 02:57:40,170 --> 02:57:40,970 owner shall install a 4936 02:57:40,970 --> 02:57:41,971 public sanitary pump 4937 02:57:41,971 --> 02:57:42,538 station at the owner's 4938 02:57:42,538 --> 02:57:43,390 expense to provide service 4939 02:57:43,390 --> 02:57:43,706 to propose development 4940 02:57:43,706 --> 02:57:44,540 subject to any applicable 4941 02:57:44,540 --> 02:57:45,740 our er and we have the 4942 02:57:45,740 --> 02:57:47,474 pump session should we 4943 02:57:48,745 --> 02:57:49,312 need it. 4944 02:57:49,312 --> 02:57:49,980 Later, the one issue 4945 02:57:49,980 --> 02:57:50,713 that's not on here that I 4946 02:57:50,713 --> 02:57:51,248 think is important -- 4947 02:57:51,248 --> 02:57:51,781 well, let me get to 4948 02:57:51,781 --> 02:57:53,781 another easy one. 4949 02:58:19,100 --> 02:58:19,677 On page 1611 community 4950 02:58:19,677 --> 02:58:20,244 education and training 4951 02:58:20,244 --> 02:58:20,510 program, I want to thank 4952 02:58:20,510 --> 02:58:21,450 you. 4953 02:58:21,450 --> 02:58:21,645 It's very robust. 4954 02:58:21,645 --> 02:58:22,246 It reflects a lot of the 4955 02:58:22,246 --> 02:58:22,980 meetings we had in terms 4956 02:58:22,980 --> 02:58:23,447 of how we want to use this 4957 02:58:23,447 --> 02:58:24,214 site for economic 4958 02:58:24,214 --> 02:58:25,820 development specifically 4959 02:58:25,820 --> 02:58:25,617 for training, but I take 4960 02:58:25,617 --> 02:58:26,184 issue with one word. 4961 02:58:26,184 --> 02:58:29,184 In the third sentence we 4962 02:58:31,259 --> 02:58:31,357 say the first owner agrees 4963 02:58:31,357 --> 02:58:31,474 to participate in 4964 02:58:31,474 --> 02:58:31,566 educational training 4965 02:58:31,566 --> 02:58:31,670 program available to 4966 02:58:31,670 --> 02:58:31,796 postsecondary and high 4967 02:58:31,796 --> 02:58:31,898 school students in 4968 02:58:31,898 --> 02:58:32,100 miami-dade county which 4969 02:58:32,100 --> 02:58:32,556 MAY include but shall not 4970 02:58:32,556 --> 02:58:33,570 be limited neuro- 4971 02:58:33,570 --> 02:58:33,658 divergent people? 4972 02:58:33,658 --> 02:58:34,580 Can we make that MAY a 4973 02:58:34,580 --> 02:58:34,625 must? 4974 02:58:34,625 --> 02:58:35,250 Because that's what we 4975 02:58:35,250 --> 02:58:35,296 talked about. 4976 02:58:35,296 --> 02:58:37,296 Thank you. 4977 02:58:51,142 --> 02:58:51,976 Now going back o page 15. 4978 02:58:51,976 --> 02:58:52,476 One of the reasons that 4979 02:58:52,476 --> 02:58:53,144 this application is so 4980 02:58:53,144 --> 02:58:53,978 different from everything 4981 02:58:53,978 --> 02:58:54,612 else that this board has 4982 02:58:54,612 --> 02:58:55,112 seen is because of kelly's 4983 02:58:55,112 --> 02:58:55,948 involvement in our 4984 02:58:55,948 --> 02:58:56,181 emergency response at all 4985 02:58:56,181 --> 02:58:56,982 levels. 4986 02:58:56,982 --> 02:58:57,683 On page 15 paragraph 10 we 4987 02:58:57,683 --> 02:59:00,830 speak about the county 4988 02:59:14,266 --> 02:59:15,670 emergency management. 4989 02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:15,600 Is it possible to give 4990 02:59:15,600 --> 02:59:16,302 miami-dade county 4991 02:59:16,302 --> 02:59:17,103 government a priority in 4992 02:59:17,103 --> 02:59:20,103 terms of access to kelly 4993 02:59:34,530 --> 02:59:34,486 equipment should there be 4994 02:59:34,486 --> 02:59:35,120 an emergency? 4995 02:59:35,120 --> 02:59:35,755 Because I know you guys 4996 02:59:35,755 --> 02:59:36,589 get a draw from everyone. 4997 02:59:36,589 --> 02:59:36,823 Is that something we can 4998 02:59:36,823 --> 02:59:37,657 bake in? 4999 02:59:37,657 --> 02:59:38,525 I know obviously it would 5000 02:59:38,525 --> 02:59:39,580 be, as long as we're not 5001 02:59:39,580 --> 02:59:39,325 violating existing 5002 02:59:39,325 --> 02:59:39,792 contracts. 5003 02:59:39,792 --> 02:59:40,560 >> that's okay. 5004 02:59:40,560 --> 02:59:41,193 >> okay, and this is 5005 02:59:41,193 --> 02:59:41,761 important, folks, because 5006 02:59:41,761 --> 02:59:44,161 whenever we have a 5007 02:59:48,100 --> 02:59:48,634 hurricane, everyone draws 5008 02:59:48,634 --> 02:59:49,202 we are going to be talking 5009 02:59:49,202 --> 02:59:49,970 about trash and trash 5010 02:59:49,970 --> 02:59:50,603 pickup later, but I want 5011 02:59:50,603 --> 02:59:51,204 our county response teams 5012 02:59:51,204 --> 02:59:52,380 to have first priority 5013 02:59:52,380 --> 02:59:52,572 when it comes to kelly and 5014 02:59:52,572 --> 02:59:53,172 access to the 5015 02:59:53,172 --> 02:59:55,572 infrastructure that is so 5016 03:00:00,713 --> 03:00:00,981 necessary during emergency 5017 03:00:00,981 --> 03:00:01,748 response. 5018 03:00:01,748 --> 03:00:02,349 The wetland mitigation 5019 03:00:02,349 --> 03:00:02,549 program I think is very 5020 03:00:02,549 --> 03:00:03,817 good. 5021 03:00:03,817 --> 03:00:04,351 I really want to thank you 5022 03:00:04,351 --> 03:00:04,951 all for spending the time 5023 03:00:04,951 --> 03:00:05,786 with us to work through 5024 03:00:05,786 --> 03:00:08,186 how to include the 5025 03:00:13,160 --> 03:00:13,427 wildlife and a wildlife 5026 03:00:13,427 --> 03:00:14,161 corridor. 5027 03:00:14,161 --> 03:00:14,761 I really believe this is 5028 03:00:14,761 --> 03:00:15,663 something that others 5029 03:00:15,663 --> 03:00:18,630 should consider when we 5030 03:00:37,452 --> 03:00:37,652 look at these types of 5031 03:00:37,652 --> 03:00:38,253 plans. 5032 03:00:38,253 --> 03:00:39,530 And then finally, I know 5033 03:00:39,530 --> 03:00:39,654 we had some back and forth 5034 03:00:39,654 --> 03:00:40,488 and I want to thank staff 5035 03:00:40,488 --> 03:00:41,122 for also requiring it. 5036 03:00:41,122 --> 03:00:41,923 We are not double dipping 5037 03:00:41,923 --> 03:00:42,556 here on mitigation, right? 5038 03:00:42,556 --> 03:00:43,491 It's separate and apart. 5039 03:00:43,491 --> 03:00:44,425 You are going to use other 5040 03:00:44,425 --> 03:00:46,825 land for your stormwater. 5041 03:00:53,201 --> 03:00:53,834 To the board, in terms of 5042 03:00:53,834 --> 03:00:54,268 your presentation area and 5043 03:00:54,268 --> 03:00:54,935 mitigation we're 5044 03:00:54,935 --> 03:00:55,737 requiring, I want to read 5045 03:00:55,737 --> 03:00:56,405 a part to you because it 5046 03:00:56,405 --> 03:00:57,238 was important when we were 5047 03:00:57,238 --> 03:00:57,773 negotiating it and I think 5048 03:00:57,773 --> 03:00:58,340 it's something we should 5049 03:00:58,340 --> 03:00:59,908 consider moving forward 5050 03:00:59,908 --> 03:01:00,475 when we talk about 5051 03:01:00,475 --> 03:01:02,475 replicating these 5052 03:01:07,851 --> 03:01:08,183 requirements in other 5053 03:01:08,183 --> 03:01:10,183 applications. 5054 03:01:18,994 --> 03:01:19,728 On page 13, the owner 5055 03:01:19,728 --> 03:01:20,395 shall dedicate and convey 5056 03:01:20,395 --> 03:01:21,297 these additional off-site 5057 03:01:21,297 --> 03:01:23,297 wetland preservation areas 5058 03:01:28,671 --> 03:01:29,438 to miami-dade eagle county 5059 03:01:29,438 --> 03:01:29,972 in the natural free 5060 03:01:29,972 --> 03:01:30,573 vegetation, we talked 5061 03:01:30,573 --> 03:01:31,407 about that, but this is 5062 03:01:31,407 --> 03:01:31,941 the part I think is 5063 03:01:31,941 --> 03:01:32,441 important. 5064 03:01:32,441 --> 03:01:34,841 The owner agrees to 5065 03:01:58,702 --> 03:01:59,369 provide a funding 5066 03:01:59,369 --> 03:01:59,736 mechanism -- everybody 5067 03:01:59,736 --> 03:02:00,636 okay over here? 5068 03:02:00,636 --> 03:02:01,171 The owner agrees to 5069 03:02:01,171 --> 03:02:01,838 provide a funding 5070 03:02:01,838 --> 03:02:02,672 mechanism that fully funds 5071 03:02:02,672 --> 03:02:03,173 the maintenance of the 5072 03:02:03,173 --> 03:02:03,740 off-site wetland 5073 03:02:03,740 --> 03:02:04,674 preservation areas in 5074 03:02:04,674 --> 03:02:05,208 perpetuity and any other 5075 03:02:05,208 --> 03:02:05,709 obligation of such 5076 03:02:05,709 --> 03:02:06,176 off-site wetland 5077 03:02:06,176 --> 03:02:06,877 preservation area. 5078 03:02:06,877 --> 03:02:07,444 Should the county and its 5079 03:02:07,444 --> 03:02:08,245 discretion elect not to 5080 03:02:08,245 --> 03:02:08,512 accept such -- restrictive 5081 03:02:08,512 --> 03:02:09,279 covenant. 5082 03:02:09,279 --> 03:02:09,879 And the other thing that 5083 03:02:09,879 --> 03:02:10,747 was required here that we 5084 03:02:10,747 --> 03:02:13,747 talked about, I think it 5085 03:02:20,992 --> 03:02:21,859 was in the second time 5086 03:02:21,859 --> 03:02:22,659 this application came to 5087 03:02:22,659 --> 03:02:23,427 us is that the mitigation 5088 03:02:23,427 --> 03:02:23,894 weather provided and land 5089 03:02:23,894 --> 03:02:24,595 to the county or by 5090 03:02:24,595 --> 03:02:25,395 mitigation credits will be 5091 03:02:25,395 --> 03:02:26,196 in miami-dade county. 5092 03:02:26,196 --> 03:02:26,997 This is not mitigation 5093 03:02:26,997 --> 03:02:27,565 land that's going to occur 5094 03:02:27,565 --> 03:02:27,899 in orlando or north 5095 03:02:27,899 --> 03:02:28,499 florida. 5096 03:02:28,499 --> 03:02:29,330 This is the first time 5097 03:02:29,330 --> 03:02:29,900 that we're keeping 5098 03:02:29,900 --> 03:02:30,134 everything in miami-dade 5099 03:02:30,134 --> 03:02:30,868 county. 5100 03:02:30,868 --> 03:02:31,469 So to my colleagues, this 5101 03:02:31,469 --> 03:02:33,869 is a very different 5102 03:02:53,224 --> 03:02:53,658 application from what was 5103 03:02:53,658 --> 03:02:54,558 presented to us. 5104 03:02:54,558 --> 03:02:54,792 I think that kelly is 5105 03:02:54,792 --> 03:02:55,559 unique. 5106 03:02:55,559 --> 03:02:55,827 I think it's a text 5107 03:02:55,827 --> 03:02:56,595 amendment. 5108 03:02:56,595 --> 03:02:57,950 I think we cleared up the 5109 03:02:57,950 --> 03:02:57,362 issues of a text 5110 03:02:57,362 --> 03:02:58,960 amendment. 5111 03:02:58,960 --> 03:02:58,296 We are not moving in the 5112 03:02:58,296 --> 03:02:58,864 line. 5113 03:02:58,864 --> 03:02:59,731 Currently, this land, as 5114 03:02:59,731 --> 03:03:00,432 has been mentioned, what 5115 03:03:00,432 --> 03:03:00,965 is preserved we're 5116 03:03:00,965 --> 03:03:01,733 preserving, but there is 5117 03:03:01,733 --> 03:03:02,233 an entire area out there 5118 03:03:02,233 --> 03:03:03,200 that has not been 5119 03:03:03,200 --> 03:03:03,701 restored, is not being 5120 03:03:03,701 --> 03:03:04,669 preserved, and will be 5121 03:03:04,669 --> 03:03:05,236 preserved because of this. 5122 03:03:05,236 --> 03:03:05,938 This when we own it, 5123 03:03:05,938 --> 03:03:08,140 there's a dramatic change 5124 03:03:08,140 --> 03:03:08,840 in our ability to do 5125 03:03:08,840 --> 03:03:09,775 bccer. The county can go 5126 03:03:09,775 --> 03:03:10,409 to the federal government 5127 03:03:10,409 --> 03:03:10,776 and ask to start working 5128 03:03:10,776 --> 03:03:11,710 on this basin. 5129 03:03:11,710 --> 03:03:12,277 So with that, I would like 5130 03:03:12,277 --> 03:03:13,111 to move as amended. 5131 03:03:13,111 --> 03:03:13,378 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5132 03:03:13,378 --> 03:03:15,378 all right. 5133 03:03:17,850 --> 03:03:18,217 We have a -- well, we had 5134 03:03:18,217 --> 03:03:20,217 a motion, right? 5135 03:03:29,962 --> 03:03:30,562 To move it by bermudez 5136 03:03:30,562 --> 03:03:31,163 seconded by gilbert and 5137 03:03:31,163 --> 03:03:32,197 now there's an amendment? 5138 03:03:32,197 --> 03:03:33,980 >> they made amendment, so 5139 03:03:33,980 --> 03:03:33,632 just as long as the motion 5140 03:03:33,632 --> 03:03:34,533 says as amended. 5141 03:03:34,533 --> 03:03:36,533 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 5142 03:03:43,442 --> 03:03:44,276 the motion as amended. 5143 03:03:44,276 --> 03:03:44,743 Are you good with that? 5144 03:03:44,743 --> 03:03:45,344 O -- go ahead. 5145 03:03:45,344 --> 03:03:46,346 >> MR. Chair, if I can 5146 03:03:46,346 --> 03:03:46,813 just confirm the original 5147 03:03:46,813 --> 03:03:47,880 motion, it would be a 5148 03:03:47,880 --> 03:03:50,880 motion to adopt per staff 5149 03:03:52,284 --> 03:03:53,252 recommendation with the 5150 03:03:53,252 --> 03:03:54,287 various changes that have 5151 03:03:54,287 --> 03:03:54,587 been outlined in staff's 5152 03:03:54,587 --> 03:03:55,320 memorandums. 5153 03:03:55,320 --> 03:03:58,320 With the acceptance of the 5154 03:03:59,492 --> 03:04:00,159 proffer covenant and with 5155 03:04:00,159 --> 03:04:01,294 the 10 calendar days, the 5156 03:04:01,294 --> 03:04:03,294 10 day commission to 5157 03:04:11,972 --> 03:04:12,505 provide and executed 5158 03:04:12,505 --> 03:04:13,390 sufficient covenant 5159 03:04:13,390 --> 03:04:13,573 opinion and title. 5160 03:04:13,573 --> 03:04:14,140 My understanding is 5161 03:04:14,140 --> 03:04:15,750 there's -- well, there 5162 03:04:15,750 --> 03:04:15,475 were amendments in 5163 03:04:15,475 --> 03:04:16,277 addition to that. 5164 03:04:16,277 --> 03:04:17,111 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5165 03:04:17,111 --> 03:04:17,678 all right. 5166 03:04:17,678 --> 03:04:20,780 So are we good? 5167 03:04:31,558 --> 03:04:32,526 I'm sorry, attorney is 5168 03:04:32,526 --> 03:04:33,930 whispering in my ear, so 5169 03:04:33,930 --> 03:04:33,694 did you say something that 5170 03:04:33,694 --> 03:04:34,227 needed my attention? 5171 03:04:34,227 --> 03:04:34,828 I apologize. 5172 03:04:34,828 --> 03:04:35,629 >> no, MR. Chair. 5173 03:04:35,629 --> 03:04:36,230 I was just restating the 5174 03:04:36,230 --> 03:04:38,630 motion for the record. 5175 03:04:39,660 --> 03:04:39,600 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5176 03:04:39,600 --> 03:04:40,268 that said, I have no 5177 03:04:40,268 --> 03:04:40,568 further discussion on 5178 03:04:40,568 --> 03:04:41,680 item. 5179 03:04:41,680 --> 03:04:41,602 T is moved as 5180 03:04:41,602 --> 03:04:44,200 amended with all the 5181 03:04:46,508 --> 03:04:46,708 different motions and good 5182 03:04:46,708 --> 03:04:47,509 stuff. 5183 03:04:47,509 --> 03:04:48,510 We have second by 5184 03:04:48,510 --> 03:04:50,440 commissioner gilbert. 5185 03:04:50,440 --> 03:04:51,245 Commissioner steinberg, 5186 03:04:51,245 --> 03:04:51,546 are you wanting to be 5187 03:04:51,546 --> 03:04:53,546 recognized? 5188 03:04:55,917 --> 03:04:56,151 >> Micky Steinberg: 5189 03:04:56,151 --> 03:04:58,151 briefly. 5190 03:04:58,987 --> 03:05:00,421 I will remain a no. 5191 03:05:00,421 --> 03:05:02,421 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5192 03:05:08,630 --> 03:05:08,830 clerk, please call the 5193 03:05:08,830 --> 03:05:09,664 roll. 5194 03:05:09,664 --> 03:05:10,465 >> if we can have a 5195 03:05:10,465 --> 03:05:10,999 clarification of the 5196 03:05:10,999 --> 03:05:11,766 acreage that the county 5197 03:05:11,766 --> 03:05:12,400 could potentially own just 5198 03:05:12,400 --> 03:05:16,600 so that we can have it on 5199 03:05:18,474 --> 03:05:18,974 the record. 5200 03:05:18,974 --> 03:05:20,974 To the applicant. 5201 03:05:32,988 --> 03:05:33,856 >> to the acreage that's 5202 03:05:33,856 --> 03:05:34,890 in the paragraph -- one 5203 03:05:34,890 --> 03:05:34,656 second. 5204 03:05:34,656 --> 03:05:35,357 That's in paragraph five, 5205 03:05:35,357 --> 03:05:36,590 the off-site wetland 5206 03:05:36,590 --> 03:05:36,759 preservation area is a 5207 03:05:36,759 --> 03:05:38,461 total at least 20 acres. 5208 03:05:38,461 --> 03:05:40,461 And then mitigation. 5209 03:05:55,745 --> 03:05:56,179 >> and then mitigation we 5210 03:05:56,179 --> 03:05:56,846 don't know. 5211 03:05:56,846 --> 03:05:57,180 >> we do not know at this 5212 03:05:57,180 --> 03:05:57,847 point, yes. 5213 03:05:57,847 --> 03:05:58,314 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5214 03:05:58,314 --> 03:05:58,882 all right. 5215 03:05:58,882 --> 03:05:59,749 So, MADAME Attorney, 5216 03:05:59,749 --> 03:06:00,316 because I'm just doing a 5217 03:06:00,316 --> 03:06:01,251 quorum count of sorts. 5218 03:06:01,251 --> 03:06:01,884 I don't think we have the 5219 03:06:01,884 --> 03:06:02,618 sufficient members in the 5220 03:06:02,618 --> 03:06:05,618 chamber at this time to 5221 03:06:07,291 --> 03:06:07,624 take a vote based on 5222 03:06:07,624 --> 03:06:08,425 requirements. 5223 03:06:08,425 --> 03:06:08,992 I know that we need nine 5224 03:06:08,992 --> 03:06:09,793 votes for this in general 5225 03:06:09,793 --> 03:06:11,361 and I can see it based on 5226 03:06:11,361 --> 03:06:13,761 the history of this. 5227 03:06:18,702 --> 03:06:19,203 So can I -- I don't know 5228 03:06:19,203 --> 03:06:20,637 if officially say table 5229 03:06:20,637 --> 03:06:21,404 it, but can I move on to 5230 03:06:21,404 --> 03:06:25,400 the rest of the agenda and 5231 03:06:35,520 --> 03:06:35,686 come back at this time? 5232 03:06:35,686 --> 03:06:36,554 Because I know we have a 5233 03:06:36,554 --> 03:06:37,221 very long agenda and some 5234 03:06:37,221 --> 03:06:38,880 folks do need to leave. 5235 03:06:38,880 --> 03:06:38,556 If we don't get this item 5236 03:06:38,556 --> 03:06:39,190 today, doesn't 5237 03:06:39,190 --> 03:06:41,292 automatically roll over to 5238 03:06:41,292 --> 03:06:41,825 my next agenda? 5239 03:06:41,825 --> 03:06:42,760 >> yes, MR. Chair. 5240 03:06:42,760 --> 03:06:44,760 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 5241 03:06:56,575 --> 03:06:57,208 want to try to get it 5242 03:06:57,208 --> 03:06:57,642 today, but just in case we 5243 03:06:57,642 --> 03:06:58,309 run out of time. 5244 03:06:58,309 --> 03:06:59,544 That said, I know we had a 5245 03:06:59,544 --> 03:07:00,345 lot of good conversation, 5246 03:07:00,345 --> 03:07:01,212 commissioner regalado. 5247 03:07:01,212 --> 03:07:02,146 Thank you for all of that. 5248 03:07:02,146 --> 03:07:02,646 The motion still stands 5249 03:07:02,646 --> 03:07:03,247 and all of that, but we 5250 03:07:03,247 --> 03:07:03,847 are going to move on to 5251 03:07:03,847 --> 03:07:06,847 the rest of our agenda 5252 03:07:20,399 --> 03:07:20,965 just because I don't have 5253 03:07:20,965 --> 03:07:21,366 enough members. 5254 03:07:21,366 --> 03:07:22,000 I can see it. 5255 03:07:22,000 --> 03:07:22,567 Commissioner gilbert, 5256 03:07:22,567 --> 03:07:23,401 you're recognized. 5257 03:07:23,401 --> 03:07:24,368 >> Oliver Gilbert: I just 5258 03:07:24,368 --> 03:07:25,136 want to commend 5259 03:07:25,136 --> 03:07:25,905 commissioner regalado on 5260 03:07:25,905 --> 03:07:26,105 the work she put into 5261 03:07:26,105 --> 03:07:26,872 this. 5262 03:07:26,872 --> 03:07:27,473 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5263 03:07:27,473 --> 03:07:27,973 thank you very much. 5264 03:07:27,973 --> 03:07:28,841 >> that so cute. 5265 03:07:28,841 --> 03:07:29,242 Is that a new congressman 5266 03:07:29,242 --> 03:07:29,943 type of behavior? 5267 03:07:29,943 --> 03:07:30,442 > Oliver Gilbert: no, 5268 03:07:30,442 --> 03:07:31,760 no, not at all. 5269 03:07:31,760 --> 03:07:31,810 >> Raquel Regalado: he 5270 03:07:31,810 --> 03:07:34,810 knows that if he doesn't 5271 03:07:37,583 --> 03:07:37,802 thank me I get upset early 5272 03:07:37,802 --> 03:07:38,250 . 5273 03:07:38,250 --> 03:07:39,118 >> Oliver Gilbert: 5274 03:07:39,118 --> 03:07:39,785 positive reinforcements. 5275 03:07:39,785 --> 03:07:40,686 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5276 03:07:40,686 --> 03:07:40,886 get upset now, get upset 5277 03:07:40,886 --> 03:07:41,620 later. 5278 03:07:41,620 --> 03:07:42,287 Let's move to public 5279 03:07:42,287 --> 03:07:43,880 hearing, MR. Attorney. 5280 03:07:43,880 --> 03:07:43,789 If you can read all of the 5281 03:07:43,789 --> 03:07:44,623 public hearing items and 5282 03:07:44,623 --> 03:07:45,257 once you do I'll go ahead 5283 03:07:45,257 --> 03:07:45,758 and open up public hearing 5284 03:07:45,758 --> 03:07:46,392 for the public. 5285 03:07:46,392 --> 03:07:47,193 >> yes, MR. Chair. 5286 03:07:47,193 --> 03:07:50,193 Five a is a resolution 5287 03:07:54,466 --> 03:07:54,766 naming the library and its 5288 03:07:54,766 --> 03:07:55,534 supplement. 5289 03:07:55,534 --> 03:07:55,968 5b and c are deferred. 5290 03:07:55,968 --> 03:07:57,968 Operation of micro 5291 03:08:21,695 --> 03:08:22,528 mobility devices electric 5292 03:08:22,528 --> 03:08:22,963 vehicles and motorized 5293 03:08:22,963 --> 03:08:23,496 scooters in the 5294 03:08:23,496 --> 03:08:24,530 incorporated and 5295 03:08:24,530 --> 03:08:25,431 unincorporated areas 5296 03:08:25,431 --> 03:08:25,966 re-incorporating section 5297 03:08:25,966 --> 03:08:26,634 of the code providing 5298 03:08:26,634 --> 03:08:27,468 regulations for operation 5299 03:08:27,468 --> 03:08:28,350 micro mobility devices, 5300 03:08:28,350 --> 03:08:28,969 electric vehicles, and 5301 03:08:28,969 --> 03:08:29,636 motorized scooters on 5302 03:08:29,636 --> 03:08:30,537 rights-of-way providing 5303 03:08:30,537 --> 03:08:31,171 for applicability and 5304 03:08:31,171 --> 03:08:32,390 definitions providing 5305 03:08:32,390 --> 03:08:33,730 mechanism for municipal 5306 03:08:33,730 --> 03:08:33,774 enforcement regulations 5307 03:08:33,774 --> 03:08:35,142 providing for enforcement 5308 03:08:35,142 --> 03:08:35,743 by civil penalty providing 5309 03:08:35,743 --> 03:08:36,577 severability and inclusion 5310 03:08:36,577 --> 03:08:39,577 in the code and an 5311 03:08:40,647 --> 03:08:41,715 effective date and 5312 03:08:41,715 --> 03:08:42,282 supplement authorizing 5313 03:08:42,282 --> 03:08:42,883 issuance not to exceed 5314 03:08:42,883 --> 03:08:43,650 $350 million miami-dade 5315 03:08:43,650 --> 03:08:44,351 county florida transit 5316 03:08:44,351 --> 03:08:45,185 system bonds pursuant to 5317 03:08:45,185 --> 03:08:45,920 section 208 ordinance 5318 03:08:45,920 --> 03:08:46,721 number 0548 as amended for 5319 03:08:46,721 --> 03:08:47,388 pain cost of certain 5320 03:08:47,388 --> 03:08:48,256 transportation transit 5321 03:08:48,256 --> 03:08:48,823 projects providing that 5322 03:08:48,823 --> 03:08:51,223 details, terms, and other 5323 03:09:03,604 --> 03:09:04,205 matters related to such 5324 03:09:04,205 --> 03:09:05,139 bonds as drawdown bonds 5325 03:09:05,139 --> 03:09:06,740 under a drawdown bond 5326 03:09:06,740 --> 03:09:07,142 program be determined in 5327 03:09:07,142 --> 03:09:08,143 subsequent resolutions 5328 03:09:08,143 --> 03:09:08,643 authorizing undertaking of 5329 03:09:08,643 --> 03:09:09,344 transportation and 5330 03:09:09,344 --> 03:09:09,911 transportation projects of 5331 03:09:09,911 --> 03:09:10,645 peoples transportation 5332 03:09:10,645 --> 03:09:11,279 plan authorizing and 5333 03:09:11,279 --> 03:09:12,113 directing agents to take 5334 03:09:12,113 --> 03:09:12,847 all actions necessary to 5335 03:09:12,847 --> 03:09:13,647 effectuate the purposes of 5336 03:09:13,647 --> 03:09:14,315 this ordinance and 5337 03:09:14,315 --> 03:09:15,183 ordinance number 0548 as 5338 03:09:15,183 --> 03:09:15,817 amended and providing 5339 03:09:15,817 --> 03:09:16,685 severability exclusion 5340 03:09:16,685 --> 03:09:17,152 from the code line an 5341 03:09:17,152 --> 03:09:17,819 effective date. 5342 03:09:17,819 --> 03:09:18,687 Issuance of miami-dade 5343 03:09:18,687 --> 03:09:19,154 county capital asset 5344 03:09:19,154 --> 03:09:19,855 acquisition special 5345 03:09:19,855 --> 03:09:20,688 obligation bonds from time 5346 03:09:20,688 --> 03:09:21,256 to time in a more serious 5347 03:09:21,256 --> 03:09:23,256 aggregate amount for 5348 03:09:28,930 --> 03:09:29,598 purpose of renovating 5349 03:09:29,598 --> 03:09:30,165 and/or equipping certain 5350 03:09:30,165 --> 03:09:30,932 capital assets and 5351 03:09:30,932 --> 03:09:31,600 projects providing details 5352 03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:32,467 of said bond be determined 5353 03:09:32,467 --> 03:09:33,468 in one or more serious 5354 03:09:33,468 --> 03:09:34,690 resolution providing for 5355 03:09:34,690 --> 03:09:34,669 exclusion from the code 5356 03:09:34,669 --> 03:09:37,690 and an effective date. 5357 03:09:49,585 --> 03:09:50,319 5g is an authorization -- 5358 03:09:50,319 --> 03:09:51,870 not to exceed $350 million 5359 03:09:51,870 --> 03:09:51,720 for purpose of paying 5360 03:09:51,720 --> 03:09:52,354 certain capital project 5361 03:09:52,354 --> 03:09:53,550 cost and pain cost of 5362 03:09:53,550 --> 03:09:53,789 bonds pursuant to certain 5363 03:09:53,789 --> 03:09:54,556 terms and conditions 5364 03:09:54,556 --> 03:09:55,257 finding necessity for and 5365 03:09:55,257 --> 03:09:55,657 authorizing negotiated 5366 03:09:55,657 --> 03:09:56,593 sales bonds. 5367 03:09:56,593 --> 03:09:58,593 58 is a resolution 5368 03:09:59,962 --> 03:10:00,797 authorizing not to exceed 5369 03:10:00,797 --> 03:10:01,464 miami-dade county florida 5370 03:10:01,464 --> 03:10:02,331 public facilities revenue 5371 03:10:02,331 --> 03:10:03,990 bonds jackson hill system 5372 03:10:03,990 --> 03:10:03,799 in one or more serious for 5373 03:10:03,799 --> 03:10:04,467 pain cost of certain 5374 03:10:04,467 --> 03:10:05,340 series funding debt series 5375 03:10:05,340 --> 03:10:07,340 reserve fund's if 5376 03:10:11,974 --> 03:10:12,742 necessary authorizing sale 5377 03:10:12,742 --> 03:10:13,543 by competitive public bid 5378 03:10:13,543 --> 03:10:14,177 not to exceed $700 million 5379 03:10:14,177 --> 03:10:15,440 aggregate principal amount 5380 03:10:15,440 --> 03:10:17,440 of miami-dade county 5381 03:10:29,593 --> 03:10:30,127 florida seaport revenue 5382 03:10:30,127 --> 03:10:30,927 bonds in one or more 5383 03:10:30,927 --> 03:10:31,928 series on a senior basis 5384 03:10:31,928 --> 03:10:32,929 to pay cost of certain 5385 03:10:32,929 --> 03:10:33,597 improvements and capital 5386 03:10:33,597 --> 03:10:34,497 expenditures and to refund 5387 03:10:34,497 --> 03:10:35,650 all or portion of 5388 03:10:35,650 --> 03:10:36,000 commercial paper notes. 5389 03:10:36,000 --> 03:10:36,733 5j is a resolution 5390 03:10:36,733 --> 03:10:37,234 authorizing acquisition 5391 03:10:37,234 --> 03:10:38,200 special obligation fund 5392 03:10:38,200 --> 03:10:38,669 and aggregate principal 5393 03:10:38,669 --> 03:10:41,690 amount not to exceed $480 5394 03:10:51,982 --> 03:10:52,583 million providing that 5395 03:10:52,583 --> 03:10:53,384 bonds should be payable 5396 03:10:53,384 --> 03:10:53,951 solely from revenues at 5397 03:10:53,951 --> 03:10:54,952 the county covenant to 5398 03:10:54,952 --> 03:10:55,219 budget appropriately 5399 03:10:55,219 --> 03:10:55,652 annually. 5400 03:10:55,652 --> 03:10:56,388 5l is an ordinance 5401 03:10:56,388 --> 03:10:57,121 approving adopting and 5402 03:10:57,121 --> 03:10:57,955 ratifying assessment 5403 03:10:57,955 --> 03:10:58,423 rules, rates, and 5404 03:10:58,423 --> 03:10:59,456 assessments for 219 5405 03:10:59,456 --> 03:11:01,125 certain streetfighting 5406 03:11:01,125 --> 03:11:01,659 special taxing districts 5407 03:11:01,659 --> 03:11:02,292 for the fiscal year 5408 03:11:02,292 --> 03:11:02,893 commencing OCTOBER 1, 2026 5409 03:11:02,893 --> 03:11:03,861 and ending SEPTEMBER 30, 5410 03:11:03,861 --> 03:11:04,562 2027 and providing 5411 03:11:04,562 --> 03:11:06,562 exclusion -- ordinance 5412 03:11:07,765 --> 03:11:08,266 granting petition of 5413 03:11:08,266 --> 03:11:09,867 establishment of a 5414 03:11:09,867 --> 03:11:11,867 community district 5415 03:11:20,712 --> 03:11:21,646 generally -- tennessee 5416 03:11:21,646 --> 03:11:22,213 road southeast 12th avenue 5417 03:11:22,213 --> 03:11:22,981 on the sxsw 328 street 5418 03:11:22,981 --> 03:11:25,981 lucy street and on the 5419 03:11:33,758 --> 03:11:34,793 west sxsw sixth avenue 5420 03:11:34,793 --> 03:11:35,260 creating and establishing 5421 03:11:35,260 --> 03:11:35,894 community district 5422 03:11:35,894 --> 03:11:36,795 providing for land duties 5423 03:11:36,795 --> 03:11:37,563 providing description 5424 03:11:37,563 --> 03:11:38,496 boundaries providing board 5425 03:11:38,496 --> 03:11:39,297 of supervisors accepting 5426 03:11:39,297 --> 03:11:39,998 proper covenant 5427 03:11:39,998 --> 03:11:41,998 restrictions providing 5428 03:11:46,405 --> 03:11:47,730 exclusion from the code 5429 03:11:47,730 --> 03:11:47,940 and adopting and ratifying 5430 03:11:47,940 --> 03:11:48,541 non-ad valorem rates and 5431 03:11:48,541 --> 03:11:49,475 assessments for the solid 5432 03:11:49,475 --> 03:11:51,475 waste collection service 5433 03:11:52,511 --> 03:11:52,911 area of miami-dade county 5434 03:11:52,911 --> 03:11:54,911 florida providing 5435 03:11:58,484 --> 03:11:59,352 severability exclusion by 5436 03:11:59,352 --> 03:11:59,886 vote approving the waiver 5437 03:11:59,886 --> 03:12:02,286 of plat 6301 sw. 27th 5438 03:12:08,940 --> 03:12:09,280 street llc approving -- 5439 03:12:09,280 --> 03:12:09,829 approving the plat of q rt 5440 03:12:09,829 --> 03:12:10,596 northwest residences filed 5441 03:12:10,596 --> 03:12:12,596 by miami-dade county. 5442 03:12:13,320 --> 03:12:13,766 5r approving -- 5s is a 5443 03:12:13,766 --> 03:12:15,766 resolution approving the 5444 03:12:24,770 --> 03:12:24,677 plat of -- resolution 5445 03:12:24,677 --> 03:12:25,344 approving the plat of 5446 03:12:25,344 --> 03:12:26,180 habitat for humanity of 5447 03:12:26,180 --> 03:12:26,813 greater miami inc. 5448 03:12:26,813 --> 03:12:28,949 Approving the waiver of 5449 03:12:28,949 --> 03:12:29,549 plat approving the plat of 5450 03:12:29,549 --> 03:12:30,383 habitat for humanity of 5451 03:12:30,383 --> 03:12:31,170 greater miami inc. 5452 03:12:31,170 --> 03:12:31,851 Approving the waiver of 5453 03:12:31,851 --> 03:12:34,251 plat 82105b is approving 5454 03:12:36,123 --> 03:12:37,191 issuance of industrial 5455 03:12:37,191 --> 03:12:37,791 development authority of 5456 03:12:37,791 --> 03:12:38,658 revenue bonds in an amount 5457 03:12:38,658 --> 03:12:41,580 not to exceed $40 million 5458 03:12:56,577 --> 03:12:57,211 for the benefit of true 5459 03:12:57,211 --> 03:12:58,112 north academy inc. Those 5460 03:12:58,112 --> 03:12:58,613 are your public hearing 5461 03:12:58,613 --> 03:12:59,246 items and at the 5462 03:12:59,246 --> 03:13:00,114 appropriate time I do have 5463 03:13:00,114 --> 03:13:00,581 some requests to 5464 03:13:00,581 --> 03:13:01,115 bifurcate. 5465 03:13:01,115 --> 03:13:01,382 >> thank you to the 5466 03:13:01,382 --> 03:13:02,149 attorney. 5467 03:13:02,149 --> 03:13:02,883 At this time we are going 5468 03:13:02,883 --> 03:13:03,651 to open public hearing on 5469 03:13:03,651 --> 03:13:03,884 all five items on our 5470 03:13:03,884 --> 03:13:04,385 agenda. 5471 03:13:04,385 --> 03:13:05,218 [Name] If you could 5472 03:13:05,218 --> 03:13:05,787 approach, cornell whites, 5473 03:13:05,787 --> 03:13:06,387 please approach, sophia 5474 03:13:06,387 --> 03:13:07,155 amaya please approach. 5475 03:13:07,155 --> 03:13:07,689 I don't see anyone 5476 03:13:07,689 --> 03:13:08,389 approaching. 5477 03:13:08,389 --> 03:13:09,223 Public hearing is now open 5478 03:13:09,223 --> 03:13:12,223 on our five numbered items 5479 03:13:19,234 --> 03:13:20,101 on our agenda. 5480 03:13:20,101 --> 03:13:20,602 To the clerk, we have a 5481 03:13:20,602 --> 03:13:20,734 quasijudicial item. 5482 03:13:20,734 --> 03:13:21,202 T we 5483 03:13:21,202 --> 03:13:22,103 have a speaker. 5484 03:13:22,103 --> 03:13:22,670 At the appropriate time, 5485 03:13:22,670 --> 03:13:25,700 please swear in this 5486 03:13:35,951 --> 03:13:37,951 sophia amaya. 5487 03:13:38,954 --> 03:13:41,354 Is sophia amaya present? 5488 03:13:43,558 --> 03:13:44,459 I don't see sophia amaya. 5489 03:13:44,459 --> 03:13:45,493 To those I called present, 5490 03:13:45,493 --> 03:13:47,893 please approach the well. 5491 03:13:52,340 --> 03:13:52,334 >> good morning, 5492 03:13:52,334 --> 03:13:53,680 commission. 5493 03:13:53,680 --> 03:13:55,468 My name is tangela 5494 03:13:56,272 --> 03:13:56,939 dorsett. 5495 03:13:56,939 --> 03:13:58,939 Good morning again. 5496 03:14:08,651 --> 03:14:09,252 I'm the daughter of 5497 03:14:09,252 --> 03:14:09,786 commissioner doran, the 5498 03:14:09,786 --> 03:14:10,720 late commissioner. 5499 03:14:10,720 --> 03:14:11,587 On behalf of the entire 5500 03:14:11,587 --> 03:14:12,454 family, my sister is here, 5501 03:14:12,454 --> 03:14:14,854 evette and my brother 5502 03:14:16,693 --> 03:14:16,859 damon, he couldn't make 5503 03:14:16,859 --> 03:14:17,694 it. 5504 03:14:17,694 --> 03:14:17,994 We are extremely thankful 5505 03:14:17,994 --> 03:14:19,994 and honored. 5506 03:14:32,175 --> 03:14:32,676 My dad enjoyed his tenure 5507 03:14:32,676 --> 03:14:33,420 and service of the 5508 03:14:33,420 --> 03:14:33,710 community. 5509 03:14:33,710 --> 03:14:34,376 He was a leader and he was 5510 03:14:34,376 --> 03:14:35,111 passionate about his work. 5511 03:14:35,111 --> 03:14:35,879 We look forward to the 5512 03:14:35,879 --> 03:14:36,714 dedication of the ceremony 5513 03:14:36,714 --> 03:14:37,180 of the library, and in the 5514 03:14:37,180 --> 03:14:37,714 words of the late 5515 03:14:37,714 --> 03:14:38,315 commissioner role, 5516 03:14:38,315 --> 03:14:38,515 commission, you've done 5517 03:14:38,515 --> 03:14:40,515 good. 5518 03:14:42,819 --> 03:14:43,119 >> you done good. 5519 03:14:43,119 --> 03:14:43,854 [Applause] 5520 03:14:43,854 --> 03:14:46,254 >> my name is carnell 5521 03:14:48,359 --> 03:14:51,359 white miami, florida and I 5522 03:14:57,768 --> 03:14:58,603 am so pleased that proud 5523 03:14:58,603 --> 03:14:59,170 to be able to stay here 5524 03:14:59,170 --> 03:15:02,170 today and stand in front 5525 03:15:15,720 --> 03:15:16,388 of everybody that 5526 03:15:16,388 --> 03:15:16,921 commissioner road was my 5527 03:15:16,921 --> 03:15:17,922 dear friend, my brother, 5528 03:15:17,922 --> 03:15:18,690 my friends, my colleague. 5529 03:15:18,690 --> 03:15:19,357 We go back to the first 5530 03:15:19,357 --> 03:15:19,958 time I saw him in 1966 at 5531 03:15:19,958 --> 03:15:20,257 florida a&m university 5532 03:15:20,257 --> 03:15:20,958 campus. 5533 03:15:20,958 --> 03:15:21,793 I appreciate you and thank 5534 03:15:21,793 --> 03:15:24,793 you for doing this, for 5535 03:15:28,466 --> 03:15:29,467 honoring an honorable man. 5536 03:15:29,467 --> 03:15:30,468 Commissioner bastien, my 5537 03:15:30,468 --> 03:15:32,468 commissioner, have you 5538 03:15:46,685 --> 03:15:47,686 know I am yours. 5539 03:15:47,686 --> 03:15:48,320 You are my commissioner. 5540 03:15:48,320 --> 03:15:48,887 Position he served in for 5541 03:15:48,887 --> 03:15:49,755 many, many years and I 5542 03:15:49,755 --> 03:15:49,955 thank you for sponsoring 5543 03:15:49,955 --> 03:15:50,722 this. 5544 03:15:50,722 --> 03:15:51,757 I watch you from afar and 5545 03:15:51,757 --> 03:15:51,957 sometimes closer than you 5546 03:15:51,957 --> 03:15:52,524 know. 5547 03:15:52,524 --> 03:15:55,524 When you are doing things 5548 03:15:59,164 --> 03:15:59,965 with the most vulnerable 5549 03:15:59,965 --> 03:16:00,298 of our citizens, thank you 5550 03:16:00,298 --> 03:16:01,660 so very much. 5551 03:16:01,660 --> 03:16:01,533 >> thank you, MR. White. 5552 03:16:01,533 --> 03:16:02,468 Thank you so much. 5553 03:16:02,468 --> 03:16:02,768 MR. Dewey knight, you are 5554 03:16:02,768 --> 03:16:03,468 recognized. 5555 03:16:03,468 --> 03:16:05,137 >> Roberto Gonzalez: 5556 03:16:05,137 --> 03:16:05,805 thank you very much. 5557 03:16:05,805 --> 03:16:06,272 I am grateful to be here 5558 03:16:06,272 --> 03:16:08,272 today to celebrate. 5559 03:16:14,379 --> 03:16:14,980 We thank commissioner 5560 03:16:14,980 --> 03:16:17,980 bastien. It takes me back 5561 03:16:28,595 --> 03:16:29,129 to when the gop bond was 5562 03:16:29,129 --> 03:16:30,130 passed and he was 5563 03:16:30,130 --> 03:16:30,764 successful in lobbying the 5564 03:16:30,764 --> 03:16:31,130 commission to make this a 5565 03:16:31,130 --> 03:16:31,798 priority. 5566 03:16:31,798 --> 03:16:32,599 The library and the police 5567 03:16:32,599 --> 03:16:34,999 station because people in 5568 03:16:37,437 --> 03:16:37,971 that community had a 5569 03:16:37,971 --> 03:16:38,572 digital divide. 5570 03:16:38,572 --> 03:16:39,206 They didn't have wi-fi. 5571 03:16:39,206 --> 03:16:39,973 Those poor kids were 5572 03:16:39,973 --> 03:16:43,573 trying to go to school and 5573 03:17:02,462 --> 03:17:03,163 didn't have access. 5574 03:17:03,163 --> 03:17:04,310 Commissioner road brought 5575 03:17:04,310 --> 03:17:04,298 so much safety to that 5576 03:17:04,298 --> 03:17:05,320 community. 5577 03:17:05,320 --> 03:17:05,599 A lot of commission was 5578 03:17:05,599 --> 03:17:05,900 mad because he got his 5579 03:17:05,900 --> 03:17:06,601 done first. 5580 03:17:06,601 --> 03:17:07,335 So we are grateful that 5581 03:17:07,335 --> 03:17:08,135 you would honor him today 5582 03:17:08,135 --> 03:17:08,569 and remember the good work 5583 03:17:08,569 --> 03:17:08,836 that he did. 5584 03:17:08,836 --> 03:17:09,703 Thank you. 5585 03:17:09,703 --> 03:17:10,604 >> thank you, MR. Knight. 5586 03:17:10,604 --> 03:17:10,805 Last call for MISS Sophia 5587 03:17:10,805 --> 03:17:11,572 amaya. 5588 03:17:11,572 --> 03:17:11,806 Public hearing is now 5589 03:17:11,806 --> 03:17:12,673 closed. 5590 03:17:12,673 --> 03:17:13,173 To the attorneys, what 5591 03:17:13,173 --> 03:17:13,474 items are being 5592 03:17:13,474 --> 03:17:15,474 bifurcated? 5593 03:17:21,181 --> 03:17:21,816 >> yes, we have come MR. 5594 03:17:21,816 --> 03:17:25,416 Bastien on five a. And I 5595 03:17:30,926 --> 03:17:33,326 have on 5l, commissioner 5596 03:17:36,365 --> 03:17:36,932 -- senator garcia. 5597 03:17:36,932 --> 03:17:38,166 And I also have some 5598 03:17:38,166 --> 03:17:40,566 requests to cosponsor five 5599 03:18:00,122 --> 03:18:00,556 a from commissioners ert 5600 03:18:00,556 --> 03:18:01,289 and hardemon. 5601 03:18:01,289 --> 03:18:02,900 >> I'll entertain a motion 5602 03:18:02,900 --> 03:18:02,391 on the fives that were not 5603 03:18:02,391 --> 03:18:03,158 bifurcated. 5604 03:18:03,158 --> 03:18:03,792 >> I'd like to add 5d for 5605 03:18:03,792 --> 03:18:04,590 a quick friendly 5606 03:18:04,590 --> 03:18:04,793 amendment. 5607 03:18:04,793 --> 03:18:05,360 >> 5d is also bifurcated. 5608 03:18:05,360 --> 03:18:06,229 It's been moved. 5609 03:18:06,229 --> 03:18:06,596 It's been moved, it's been 5610 03:18:06,596 --> 03:18:07,163 seconded. 5611 03:18:07,163 --> 03:18:07,363 Clerk, please call the 5612 03:18:07,363 --> 03:18:08,970 roll. 5613 03:18:08,970 --> 03:18:08,631 >> senator garcia. 5614 03:18:08,631 --> 03:18:10,631 >> aye. 5615 03:18:13,502 --> 03:18:14,102 >> commissioner gilbert? 5616 03:18:14,102 --> 03:18:15,103 >> I vote yes. 5617 03:18:15,103 --> 03:18:15,872 >> commissioner gonzalez? 5618 03:18:15,872 --> 03:18:17,872 >> for. 5619 03:18:17,974 --> 03:18:18,808 >> commissioner gonzalez. 5620 03:18:18,808 --> 03:18:20,808 Commissioner regalado? 5621 03:18:33,956 --> 03:18:34,590 Commissioner steinberg. 5622 03:18:34,590 --> 03:18:35,491 Commissioner bastien. 5623 03:18:35,491 --> 03:18:36,927 >> Marleine Bastien: yes. 5624 03:18:36,927 --> 03:18:37,394 >> commissioner bermudez. 5625 03:18:37,394 --> 03:18:37,661 Commissioner cohen 5626 03:18:37,661 --> 03:18:38,595 higgins. 5627 03:18:38,595 --> 03:18:38,962 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 5628 03:18:38,962 --> 03:18:39,966 for. 5629 03:18:39,966 --> 03:18:40,597 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5630 03:18:40,597 --> 03:18:41,464 vice-CHAIRMAN Mcghee. 5631 03:18:41,464 --> 03:18:41,965 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 5632 03:18:41,965 --> 03:18:43,965 yes. 5633 03:18:48,104 --> 03:18:48,972 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez. 5634 03:18:48,972 --> 03:18:49,473 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5635 03:18:49,473 --> 03:18:49,740 yes. 5636 03:18:49,740 --> 03:18:50,240 All right. 5637 03:18:50,240 --> 03:18:50,774 MADAME Attorney, on the 5638 03:18:50,774 --> 03:18:51,441 bifurcated items, isn't 5639 03:18:51,441 --> 03:18:51,975 five a the first one? 5640 03:18:51,975 --> 03:18:52,642 >> yes. 5641 03:18:52,642 --> 03:18:53,476 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 5642 03:18:53,476 --> 03:18:53,743 that's bifurcated by 5643 03:18:53,743 --> 03:18:54,678 bermudez. 5644 03:18:54,678 --> 03:18:56,678 >> commissioner bastien, 5645 03:19:02,252 --> 03:19:02,519 I think, was bifurcating 5646 03:19:02,519 --> 03:19:03,386 item 5 a. 5647 03:19:03,386 --> 03:19:03,786 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5648 03:19:03,786 --> 03:19:04,454 you're recognized. 5649 03:19:04,454 --> 03:19:05,288 >> thank you, MR. Chair. 5650 03:19:05,288 --> 03:19:08,888 As most of you know, the 5651 03:19:13,197 --> 03:19:13,697 late commissioner road was 5652 03:19:13,697 --> 03:19:14,298 a commissioner for 5653 03:19:14,298 --> 03:19:14,731 district 2 for 12 long 5654 03:19:14,731 --> 03:19:16,167 years. 5655 03:19:16,167 --> 03:19:16,935 Like myself, he was a 5656 03:19:16,935 --> 03:19:18,935 mental health professional 5657 03:19:19,360 --> 03:19:19,637 and a social worker, so 5658 03:19:19,637 --> 03:19:22,637 before he was even elected 5659 03:19:23,730 --> 03:19:23,974 to the miami-dade 5660 03:19:23,974 --> 03:19:26,374 commission, he has been 5661 03:19:30,147 --> 03:19:30,815 providing lifeline, 5662 03:19:30,815 --> 03:19:31,148 lifesaving services to his 5663 03:19:31,148 --> 03:19:32,483 community. 5664 03:19:32,483 --> 03:19:34,483 Through the organizations 5665 03:19:36,488 --> 03:19:38,488 that provided wraparound 5666 03:19:42,994 --> 03:19:43,294 services for the residents 5667 03:19:43,294 --> 03:19:44,162 of district. 5668 03:19:44,162 --> 03:19:44,662 He served for 12 years, as 5669 03:19:44,662 --> 03:19:46,662 I indicated. 5670 03:19:50,802 --> 03:19:51,669 As a result of his latest 5671 03:19:51,669 --> 03:19:52,170 -- the library was 5672 03:19:52,170 --> 03:19:54,170 approved in 2008. 5673 03:19:55,740 --> 03:19:58,740 So I'm honored to really 5674 03:20:02,130 --> 03:20:04,130 support this legislation 5675 03:20:04,948 --> 03:20:08,548 and I pulled the item for 5676 03:20:18,610 --> 03:20:18,661 very brief amendment -- so 5677 03:20:18,661 --> 03:20:19,662 please read the motion. 5678 03:20:19,662 --> 03:20:20,530 >> commissioner bastien 5679 03:20:20,530 --> 03:20:21,130 moves to assert the word 5680 03:20:21,130 --> 03:20:24,130 branch so that the new 5681 03:20:29,638 --> 03:20:30,390 library would be the -- 5682 03:20:30,390 --> 03:20:30,539 library. 5683 03:20:30,539 --> 03:20:31,140 >> thank you. 5684 03:20:31,140 --> 03:20:31,706 And I'd like to share that 5685 03:20:31,706 --> 03:20:34,106 the families here, you 5686 03:20:34,142 --> 03:20:34,676 heard them. 5687 03:20:34,676 --> 03:20:35,410 Commissioner role was 5688 03:20:35,410 --> 03:20:37,810 cherished by many members, 5689 03:20:43,151 --> 03:20:43,951 so I hope that you support 5690 03:20:43,951 --> 03:20:44,452 this, and thank you to 5691 03:20:44,452 --> 03:20:45,860 those who sponsor. 5692 03:20:45,860 --> 03:20:47,860 >> CHAIRMAN, I'll sponsor. 5693 03:20:59,899 --> 03:21:00,200 >> vice chair, when you're 5694 03:21:00,200 --> 03:21:01,134 recognized. 5695 03:21:01,134 --> 03:21:01,768 >> I wanted to briefly say 5696 03:21:01,768 --> 03:21:02,569 because the family is here 5697 03:21:02,569 --> 03:21:03,570 from district 12, thank I 5698 03:21:03,570 --> 03:21:04,137 think this is a great day. 5699 03:21:04,137 --> 03:21:04,804 Commissioner road was 5700 03:21:04,804 --> 03:21:05,710 always very respectful to 5701 03:21:05,710 --> 03:21:05,672 me. 5702 03:21:05,672 --> 03:21:06,272 The governor was always 5703 03:21:06,272 --> 03:21:09,272 very kind to what became 5704 03:21:13,245 --> 03:21:14,179 of the city of durell. 5705 03:21:14,179 --> 03:21:14,813 Was always very caring and 5706 03:21:14,813 --> 03:21:15,614 listening to my argument, 5707 03:21:15,614 --> 03:21:18,614 so I'm very supportive of 5708 03:21:31,362 --> 03:21:31,796 this item and its 5709 03:21:31,796 --> 03:21:32,296 well-deserved. 5710 03:21:32,296 --> 03:21:32,763 >> vice-CHAIRMAN. 5711 03:21:32,763 --> 03:21:33,300 >> thank you, MR. 5712 03:21:33,300 --> 03:21:33,464 CHAIRMAN. 5713 03:21:33,464 --> 03:21:34,970 I, too, echo the 5714 03:21:34,970 --> 03:21:34,398 sentiments by my 5715 03:21:34,398 --> 03:21:34,965 colleagues. 5716 03:21:34,965 --> 03:21:35,467 I'd also like to be listed 5717 03:21:35,467 --> 03:21:36,367 as a cosponsor. 5718 03:21:36,367 --> 03:21:36,600 Let me say this to the 5719 03:21:36,600 --> 03:21:37,134 family. 5720 03:21:37,134 --> 03:21:40,134 Thank you for loaning to 5721 03:21:43,173 --> 03:21:44,770 this great county the guv. 5722 03:21:44,770 --> 03:21:44,307 He stood for great things 5723 03:21:44,307 --> 03:21:44,975 for us. 5724 03:21:44,975 --> 03:21:45,909 The idea that we now will 5725 03:21:45,909 --> 03:21:49,509 have his name top of the 5726 03:21:49,546 --> 03:21:50,280 library, everyone can see 5727 03:21:50,280 --> 03:21:51,114 that remind every each and 5728 03:21:51,114 --> 03:21:51,848 last one of us that 5729 03:21:51,848 --> 03:21:53,848 knowledge and opportunity 5730 03:21:57,520 --> 03:21:57,920 are the two -- who came 5731 03:21:57,920 --> 03:21:58,521 through this community 5732 03:21:58,521 --> 03:21:59,880 looking for, you know, 5733 03:21:59,880 --> 03:22:01,880 understanding and 5734 03:22:20,241 --> 03:22:20,541 appreciation and things of 5735 03:22:20,541 --> 03:22:21,775 that nature. 5736 03:22:21,775 --> 03:22:22,576 To commissioner bastien, 5737 03:22:22,576 --> 03:22:23,277 hopefully, you know, we 5738 03:22:23,277 --> 03:22:23,811 get that invitation to the 5739 03:22:23,811 --> 03:22:24,311 ribbon-cutting. 5740 03:22:24,311 --> 03:22:24,511 Definitely want to be 5741 03:22:24,511 --> 03:22:25,345 there. 5742 03:22:25,345 --> 03:22:25,979 Just thank you so much for 5743 03:22:25,979 --> 03:22:26,547 leading the charge on 5744 03:22:26,547 --> 03:22:27,800 behalf of this great man 5745 03:22:27,800 --> 03:22:27,848 and great family. 5746 03:22:27,848 --> 03:22:28,815 >> Marleine Bastien: 5747 03:22:28,815 --> 03:22:29,382 thank you, vice chair. 5748 03:22:29,382 --> 03:22:32,382 Are you trying to speak? 5749 03:22:34,988 --> 03:22:35,555 Just keep in mind you all 5750 03:22:35,555 --> 03:22:36,255 should learn from him, 5751 03:22:36,255 --> 03:22:36,889 what he used to say. 5752 03:22:36,889 --> 03:22:37,924 Talk long, talk wrong. 5753 03:22:37,924 --> 03:22:38,157 [Laughter] Commissioner 5754 03:22:38,157 --> 03:22:38,891 gilbert. 5755 03:22:38,891 --> 03:22:40,891 >> Oliver Gilbert: he 5756 03:22:54,206 --> 03:22:54,972 used to say he was also 5757 03:22:54,972 --> 03:22:55,206 going to take a skinny 5758 03:22:55,206 --> 03:22:55,973 minute. 5759 03:22:55,973 --> 03:22:57,410 I just want to thank 5760 03:22:57,410 --> 03:22:57,542 commissioner bastien for 5761 03:22:57,542 --> 03:22:58,576 bringing this item. 5762 03:22:58,576 --> 03:22:58,743 Knew the governor, I knew 5763 03:22:58,743 --> 03:22:59,143 him. 5764 03:22:59,143 --> 03:23:00,780 He was a good man. 5765 03:23:00,780 --> 03:23:00,611 He loved to this 5766 03:23:00,611 --> 03:23:00,845 community, he loved this 5767 03:23:00,845 --> 03:23:02,845 county. 5768 03:23:08,519 --> 03:23:09,386 I think this is overdue. 5769 03:23:09,386 --> 03:23:09,620 It's fitting and it's 5770 03:23:09,620 --> 03:23:10,120 overdue. 5771 03:23:10,120 --> 03:23:10,420 Thank you very much for 5772 03:23:10,420 --> 03:23:11,321 doing this. 5773 03:23:11,321 --> 03:23:11,588 Thank you, commissioner 5774 03:23:11,588 --> 03:23:12,356 bastien. 5775 03:23:12,356 --> 03:23:13,323 >> thank you, MR. 5776 03:23:13,323 --> 03:23:15,723 CHAIRMAN, and thank you 5777 03:23:32,508 --> 03:23:33,410 commissioner gilbert for 5778 03:23:33,410 --> 03:23:33,308 reminding us about the 5779 03:23:33,308 --> 03:23:33,976 governor. 5780 03:23:33,976 --> 03:23:34,543 When I was in legislator I 5781 03:23:34,543 --> 03:23:35,477 worked with him on a 5782 03:23:35,477 --> 03:23:36,378 couple of different issues 5783 03:23:36,378 --> 03:23:36,978 and there's no doubt he 5784 03:23:36,978 --> 03:23:37,512 really did care about his 5785 03:23:37,512 --> 03:23:38,790 community, loves his 5786 03:23:38,790 --> 03:23:38,980 people, and fought 5787 03:23:38,980 --> 03:23:39,481 tirelessly for them every 5788 03:23:39,481 --> 03:23:40,215 single day. 5789 03:23:40,215 --> 03:23:40,815 Whether you agreed with 5790 03:23:40,815 --> 03:23:41,616 him or not, one thing you 5791 03:23:41,616 --> 03:23:42,830 could be certain of is he 5792 03:23:42,830 --> 03:23:42,584 really did love his 5793 03:23:42,584 --> 03:23:43,585 people. 5794 03:23:43,585 --> 03:23:44,850 Commissioner gilbert, 5795 03:23:44,850 --> 03:23:44,852 thank you so much for 5796 03:23:44,852 --> 03:23:45,870 bringing this forward to 5797 03:23:45,870 --> 03:23:45,586 us. 5798 03:23:45,586 --> 03:23:46,354 >> please add me. 5799 03:23:46,354 --> 03:23:46,887 > we can cosponsor all 5800 03:23:46,887 --> 03:23:48,589 the way around. 5801 03:23:48,589 --> 03:23:48,789 All right. 5802 03:23:48,789 --> 03:23:50,789 Okay. 5803 03:23:51,692 --> 03:23:52,359 So with that, clerk, 5804 03:23:52,359 --> 03:23:52,827 please we have a motion 5805 03:23:52,827 --> 03:23:54,827 and a second. 5806 03:23:56,129 --> 03:23:56,663 With that, clerk, please 5807 03:23:56,663 --> 03:23:58,663 call the roll. 5808 03:24:01,468 --> 03:24:02,168 >> commissioner gilbert. 5809 03:24:02,168 --> 03:24:04,168 Commissioner gonzalez. 5810 03:24:29,270 --> 03:24:29,761 [Roll call] 5811 03:24:29,761 --> 03:24:31,761 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5812 03:24:34,865 --> 03:24:35,165 5d, steinberg told that 5813 03:24:35,165 --> 03:24:35,866 bifurcated. 5814 03:24:35,866 --> 03:24:37,866 Go ahead, commissioner 5815 03:24:38,268 --> 03:24:38,869 steinberg on 5d. 5816 03:24:38,869 --> 03:24:40,869 >> Micky Steinberg: 5817 03:24:46,576 --> 03:24:46,843 listen, I support the 5818 03:24:46,843 --> 03:24:47,510 ordinance. 5819 03:24:47,510 --> 03:24:48,211 I know it's a great 5820 03:24:48,211 --> 03:24:49,450 ordinance and it's broadly 5821 03:24:49,450 --> 03:24:49,579 written enough, but it 5822 03:24:49,579 --> 03:24:51,979 really is a narrow 5823 03:24:58,288 --> 03:24:59,560 ordinance and really 5824 03:24:59,560 --> 03:24:59,823 impacts, my question and 5825 03:24:59,823 --> 03:25:00,490 what I would like to 5826 03:25:00,490 --> 03:25:01,291 proffer is the ability for 5827 03:25:01,291 --> 03:25:01,991 other municipalities to 5828 03:25:01,991 --> 03:25:03,590 opt in to this ordinance 5829 03:25:03,590 --> 03:25:03,760 should they want to be 5830 03:25:03,760 --> 03:25:04,727 interlocal and being that 5831 03:25:04,727 --> 03:25:05,295 the title is broad enough, 5832 03:25:05,295 --> 03:25:08,295 I would ask the county 5833 03:25:14,404 --> 03:25:15,204 attorney to let me know 5834 03:25:15,204 --> 03:25:15,873 that would be an 5835 03:25:15,873 --> 03:25:16,440 opportunity again not 5836 03:25:16,440 --> 03:25:17,407 mandating anything, not 5837 03:25:17,407 --> 03:25:18,750 doing anything other than 5838 03:25:18,750 --> 03:25:18,943 if another city wants to 5839 03:25:18,943 --> 03:25:20,770 opt in, give them the 5840 03:25:20,770 --> 03:25:20,978 ability to do so because 5841 03:25:20,978 --> 03:25:21,612 we are giving them the 5842 03:25:21,612 --> 03:25:22,212 regulations to do so and 5843 03:25:22,212 --> 03:25:25,812 this is the model for what 5844 03:25:32,456 --> 03:25:33,791 we are doing. 5845 03:25:33,791 --> 03:25:34,425 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5846 03:25:34,425 --> 03:25:35,259 commissioner regalado. 5847 03:25:35,259 --> 03:25:36,327 >> Raquel Regalado: I 5848 03:25:36,327 --> 03:25:36,895 have been requesting this. 5849 03:25:36,895 --> 03:25:37,462 This ordinance is a lot of 5850 03:25:37,462 --> 03:25:39,630 work and as many of you 5851 03:25:39,630 --> 03:25:39,630 know, we were waiting for 5852 03:25:39,630 --> 03:25:39,931 the state to really 5853 03:25:39,931 --> 03:25:40,631 regulate it. 5854 03:25:40,631 --> 03:25:41,199 This was done as a 5855 03:25:41,199 --> 03:25:41,632 placeholder as the state 5856 03:25:41,632 --> 03:25:43,632 regulated and 5857 03:25:45,202 --> 03:25:45,436 unfortunately the governor 5858 03:25:45,436 --> 03:25:46,238 vetoed. 5859 03:25:46,238 --> 03:25:49,238 We had over a dozen 5860 03:25:53,911 --> 03:25:55,313 meetings to make sure that 5861 03:25:55,313 --> 03:25:55,814 everybody understood this. 5862 03:25:55,814 --> 03:25:56,415 The reason for this 5863 03:25:56,415 --> 03:25:57,150 ordinance because many of 5864 03:25:57,150 --> 03:25:57,816 you know I'm a big 5865 03:25:57,816 --> 03:25:58,830 supporter of microbe 5866 03:25:58,830 --> 03:26:00,830 mobility. 5867 03:26:03,655 --> 03:26:04,856 But on FEBRUARY 14, 2024 5868 03:26:04,856 --> 03:26:05,356 we had -- died. 5869 03:26:05,356 --> 03:26:08,356 She was killed by a 5870 03:26:12,230 --> 03:26:12,430 12-year-old on in the e 5871 03:26:12,430 --> 03:26:14,430 bike. 5872 03:26:17,870 --> 03:26:18,604 Killed by a 14-year-old on 5873 03:26:18,604 --> 03:26:19,204 an e bike picker this is a 5874 03:26:19,204 --> 03:26:19,471 big issue for east 5875 03:26:19,471 --> 03:26:21,471 biscayne. 5876 03:26:31,249 --> 03:26:31,450 I don't want to amend 5877 03:26:31,450 --> 03:26:32,284 this. 5878 03:26:32,284 --> 03:26:32,818 I would tell you all to 5879 03:26:32,818 --> 03:26:33,385 bring your own items but 5880 03:26:33,385 --> 03:26:34,219 to have your own public 5881 03:26:34,219 --> 03:26:34,987 meetings so you can inform 5882 03:26:34,987 --> 03:26:35,286 everyone on the breadth of 5883 03:26:35,286 --> 03:26:37,286 this. 5884 03:26:38,891 --> 03:26:39,458 We landed on this in 5885 03:26:39,458 --> 03:26:40,393 collaboration with key 5886 03:26:40,393 --> 03:26:40,960 biscayne and this is an 5887 03:26:40,960 --> 03:26:43,360 extension of what has 5888 03:26:51,704 --> 03:26:52,538 already been existing. 5889 03:26:52,538 --> 03:26:53,439 I don't want to add other 5890 03:26:53,439 --> 03:26:54,106 cities without them kind 5891 03:26:54,106 --> 03:26:54,440 of going through the work 5892 03:26:54,440 --> 03:26:55,107 of it. 5893 03:26:55,107 --> 03:26:55,976 >> if I MAY clarify. 5894 03:26:55,976 --> 03:26:56,977 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 5895 03:26:56,977 --> 03:26:59,377 you absolutely MAY, yes. 5896 03:27:12,559 --> 03:27:13,326 >> it's just giving a 5897 03:27:13,326 --> 03:27:14,761 mechanism for another city 5898 03:27:14,761 --> 03:27:15,295 to enter into a local with 5899 03:27:15,295 --> 03:27:15,929 the county so that they 5900 03:27:15,929 --> 03:27:16,797 can also avail themselves 5901 03:27:16,797 --> 03:27:17,631 of the good work that's 5902 03:27:17,631 --> 03:27:17,898 been done on this 5903 03:27:17,898 --> 03:27:18,465 ordinance. 5904 03:27:18,465 --> 03:27:18,966 This is nothing to do with 5905 03:27:18,966 --> 03:27:19,700 changing the ordinance 5906 03:27:19,700 --> 03:27:20,367 were -- by the way, 5907 03:27:20,367 --> 03:27:21,201 cities, some of them have 5908 03:27:21,201 --> 03:27:21,501 adopted their own 5909 03:27:21,501 --> 03:27:23,501 regulations. 5910 03:27:41,288 --> 03:27:42,590 To the extent they can. 5911 03:27:42,590 --> 03:27:43,290 Just you know, maybe the 5912 03:27:43,290 --> 03:27:44,910 attorney can explain a 5913 03:27:44,910 --> 03:27:44,592 little further so it 5914 03:27:44,592 --> 03:27:45,259 doesn't touch the 5915 03:27:45,259 --> 03:27:45,659 ordinance and the essence 5916 03:27:45,659 --> 03:27:46,227 of it. 5917 03:27:46,227 --> 03:27:46,795 >> this is about the 5918 03:27:46,795 --> 03:27:47,328 rickenbacker, which is 5919 03:27:47,328 --> 03:27:48,163 unique as a street. 5920 03:27:48,163 --> 03:27:50,331 So the speed and 5921 03:27:50,331 --> 03:27:51,332 everything are very, very 5922 03:27:51,332 --> 03:27:51,799 different from other 5923 03:27:51,799 --> 03:27:52,400 county owned streets. 5924 03:27:52,400 --> 03:27:53,334 So I would say it would be 5925 03:27:53,334 --> 03:27:53,935 better to do something 5926 03:27:53,935 --> 03:27:54,468 separately for other 5927 03:27:54,468 --> 03:27:55,102 county owned streets 5928 03:27:55,102 --> 03:27:55,870 because the rickenbacker 5929 03:27:55,870 --> 03:27:56,872 is a highway and this is 5930 03:27:56,872 --> 03:27:57,472 about the rickenbacker. 5931 03:27:57,472 --> 03:27:58,473 That's what I said it's 5932 03:27:58,473 --> 03:28:01,473 very particular to what it 5933 03:28:08,617 --> 03:28:09,685 was created for. 5934 03:28:09,685 --> 03:28:10,519 >> I did pass legislation 5935 03:28:10,519 --> 03:28:11,319 in the state that allowed 5936 03:28:11,319 --> 03:28:11,987 local governments to 5937 03:28:11,987 --> 03:28:12,854 regulate micro mobility 5938 03:28:12,854 --> 03:28:13,154 devices and that is in 5939 03:28:13,154 --> 03:28:15,154 statute now. 5940 03:28:19,294 --> 03:28:20,229 Any municipality that 5941 03:28:20,229 --> 03:28:20,662 wishes to do so can. 5942 03:28:20,662 --> 03:28:20,790 Its specific. 5943 03:28:20,790 --> 03:28:21,696 O 5944 03:28:21,696 --> 03:28:22,431 commissioner steinberg's 5945 03:28:22,431 --> 03:28:23,165 question, any municipality 5946 03:28:23,165 --> 03:28:23,899 today under state statute 5947 03:28:23,899 --> 03:28:24,132 can actually pass a 5948 03:28:24,132 --> 03:28:24,932 statute. 5949 03:28:24,932 --> 03:28:26,932 What commissioner 5950 03:28:29,370 --> 03:28:30,390 regalado is saying, she 5951 03:28:30,390 --> 03:28:30,839 and I both worked very 5952 03:28:30,839 --> 03:28:33,239 hard because the village 5953 03:28:34,420 --> 03:28:34,910 of key biscayne is banned. 5954 03:28:34,910 --> 03:28:37,910 The one she's referring to 5955 03:28:40,283 --> 03:28:41,117 is the crandon boulevard. 5956 03:28:41,117 --> 03:28:41,384 This is so specific to key 5957 03:28:41,384 --> 03:28:43,384 biscayne. 5958 03:28:44,520 --> 03:28:46,452 Mission or steinberg, and 5959 03:28:47,257 --> 03:28:49,257 a municipalities, mission 5960 03:28:54,163 --> 03:28:55,397 or steinberg and I share 5961 03:28:55,397 --> 03:28:55,999 miami beach and they are 5962 03:28:55,999 --> 03:28:56,800 looking to expand the 5963 03:28:56,800 --> 03:28:57,400 state statute in this 5964 03:28:57,400 --> 03:28:59,400 coming session, so 5965 03:29:04,507 --> 03:29:05,241 hopefully that will be 5966 03:29:05,241 --> 03:29:06,430 something that we can work 5967 03:29:06,430 --> 03:29:06,609 towards, but currently any 5968 03:29:06,609 --> 03:29:07,277 municipality in the state 5969 03:29:07,277 --> 03:29:09,677 of florida can regulate 5970 03:29:10,480 --> 03:29:11,715 micro mobility devices. 5971 03:29:11,715 --> 03:29:12,215 >> and I appreciate that. 5972 03:29:12,215 --> 03:29:13,249 This is just an 5973 03:29:13,249 --> 03:29:15,249 opportunity because it 5974 03:29:20,457 --> 03:29:21,224 does say county roads. 5975 03:29:21,224 --> 03:29:22,250 While it doesn't reference 5976 03:29:22,250 --> 03:29:22,659 the areas in key biscayne, 5977 03:29:22,659 --> 03:29:23,226 because it's broad enough 5978 03:29:23,226 --> 03:29:24,394 in the title but it's 5979 03:29:24,394 --> 03:29:24,861 specific enough to what 5980 03:29:24,861 --> 03:29:25,495 you were doing. 5981 03:29:25,495 --> 03:29:27,895 I know how contentious 5982 03:29:44,948 --> 03:29:46,350 these things can be, but 5983 03:29:46,350 --> 03:29:47,418 in light of what's been 5984 03:29:47,418 --> 03:29:48,520 happening, the regulatory 5985 03:29:48,520 --> 03:29:49,620 framework is here and it's 5986 03:29:49,620 --> 03:29:50,288 just giving them the 5987 03:29:50,288 --> 03:29:51,289 option if they want to opt 5988 03:29:51,289 --> 03:29:51,889 into something like this. 5989 03:29:51,889 --> 03:29:52,156 It MAY not be what they 5990 03:29:52,156 --> 03:29:52,723 want. 5991 03:29:52,723 --> 03:29:54,580 It MAY go further than 5992 03:29:54,580 --> 03:29:54,992 what they want to do. 5993 03:29:54,992 --> 03:29:55,659 I would just ask the 5994 03:29:55,659 --> 03:29:56,161 attorneys is there a way 5995 03:29:56,161 --> 03:29:57,620 to do this where it 5996 03:29:57,620 --> 03:29:57,495 doesn't touch the item or 5997 03:29:57,495 --> 03:29:58,196 keeps the essence? 5998 03:29:58,196 --> 03:29:59,960 Because she did bring up a 5999 03:29:59,960 --> 03:30:00,632 good point about it being 6000 03:30:00,632 --> 03:30:01,165 specific to the type of 6001 03:30:01,165 --> 03:30:02,660 road, the causeway. 6002 03:30:02,660 --> 03:30:02,733 >> the only thing I would 6003 03:30:02,733 --> 03:30:06,333 add, and I'm happy to work 6004 03:30:10,174 --> 03:30:11,209 with you on the item. 6005 03:30:11,209 --> 03:30:11,810 I think you need to 6006 03:30:11,810 --> 03:30:12,610 establish parameters. 6007 03:30:12,610 --> 03:30:13,645 And I would say a certain 6008 03:30:13,645 --> 03:30:13,911 number of public meetings, 6009 03:30:13,911 --> 03:30:14,712 outreach. 6010 03:30:14,712 --> 03:30:17,712 I did all those things 6011 03:30:26,458 --> 03:30:27,459 before this, you know, 6012 03:30:27,459 --> 03:30:28,327 this has been working for 6013 03:30:28,327 --> 03:30:28,827 a long time and has been 6014 03:30:28,827 --> 03:30:29,261 an extension of this 6015 03:30:29,261 --> 03:30:29,862 happening. 6016 03:30:29,862 --> 03:30:30,495 I'm happy to work on an 6017 03:30:30,495 --> 03:30:32,497 item that creates a way 6018 03:30:32,497 --> 03:30:33,310 for them to request that 6019 03:30:33,310 --> 03:30:33,665 we extend their 6020 03:30:33,665 --> 03:30:34,499 limitations to county 6021 03:30:34,499 --> 03:30:36,669 roads, but I think there 6022 03:30:36,669 --> 03:30:37,170 has to be a very 6023 03:30:37,170 --> 03:30:37,703 compelling reason. 6024 03:30:37,703 --> 03:30:41,303 So I would be happy to 6025 03:30:42,441 --> 03:30:43,174 work with you on a 6026 03:30:43,174 --> 03:30:43,876 paradigm. 6027 03:30:43,876 --> 03:30:44,710 >> in order for a city to 6028 03:30:44,710 --> 03:30:48,310 opt in, they would have to 6029 03:30:52,485 --> 03:30:53,452 pass a resolution which 6030 03:30:53,452 --> 03:30:53,919 would then be a public 6031 03:30:53,919 --> 03:30:54,720 hearing at the city. 6032 03:30:54,720 --> 03:30:55,287 I thought it was an 6033 03:30:55,287 --> 03:30:55,889 opportunity so that we 6034 03:30:55,889 --> 03:30:58,889 don't all have to bring 6035 03:30:58,992 --> 03:31:01,861 items forward and it would 6036 03:31:01,861 --> 03:31:03,861 be more streamlined. 6037 03:31:04,397 --> 03:31:04,997 Opportunistic moments 6038 03:31:04,997 --> 03:31:07,997 where we are doing this 6039 03:31:24,500 --> 03:31:25,418 legislation, why not give 6040 03:31:25,418 --> 03:31:25,953 them the ability to opt in 6041 03:31:25,953 --> 03:31:26,453 if they want to. 6042 03:31:26,453 --> 03:31:27,254 This was just an 6043 03:31:27,254 --> 03:31:27,988 opportunity to say listen, 6044 03:31:27,988 --> 03:31:28,522 we have this framework, we 6045 03:31:28,522 --> 03:31:29,230 want to opt in. 6046 03:31:29,230 --> 03:31:29,556 These are the steps you 6047 03:31:29,556 --> 03:31:30,457 would have to do to 6048 03:31:30,457 --> 03:31:31,240 actually formally opt in. 6049 03:31:31,240 --> 03:31:31,491 You can't just say here 6050 03:31:31,491 --> 03:31:31,828 you go. 6051 03:31:31,828 --> 03:31:32,993 That's fine. 6052 03:31:32,993 --> 03:31:33,994 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6053 03:31:33,994 --> 03:31:36,394 it's been moved and 6054 03:31:52,913 --> 03:31:53,614 seconded. 6055 03:31:53,614 --> 03:31:54,414 >> is there a code that is 6056 03:31:54,414 --> 03:31:54,982 not specific to key 6057 03:31:54,982 --> 03:31:55,549 biscayne or is this the 6058 03:31:55,549 --> 03:31:56,518 only ordinance in 6059 03:31:56,518 --> 03:31:57,520 miami-dade county that 6060 03:31:57,520 --> 03:31:57,618 specifically speaks to 6061 03:31:57,618 --> 03:31:59,618 micro mobility devices, 6062 03:32:18,400 --> 03:32:18,740 electric by hopecles, and 6063 03:32:18,740 --> 03:32:19,374 motorized scooters? 6064 03:32:19,374 --> 03:32:20,750 >> yes, commissioner. 6065 03:32:20,750 --> 03:32:20,876 This is the only ordinance 6066 03:32:20,876 --> 03:32:21,509 currently in the code that 6067 03:32:21,509 --> 03:32:22,344 speaks specifically to 6068 03:32:22,344 --> 03:32:23,110 micro mobility devices. 6069 03:32:23,110 --> 03:32:23,812 >> how many municipalities 6070 03:32:23,812 --> 03:32:24,450 do we have in miami-dade 6071 03:32:24,450 --> 03:32:24,279 county? 6072 03:32:24,279 --> 03:32:24,946 32, 34? 6073 03:32:24,946 --> 03:32:25,815 If any of the 32 or 34 6074 03:32:25,815 --> 03:32:26,214 municipalities within 6075 03:32:26,214 --> 03:32:26,782 miami-dade avail 6076 03:32:26,782 --> 03:32:27,449 themselves of this 6077 03:32:27,449 --> 03:32:29,849 ordinance that we just 6078 03:32:53,942 --> 03:32:54,776 spoke to, we have deaths, 6079 03:32:54,776 --> 03:32:55,511 GOD forbid, any other 6080 03:32:55,511 --> 03:32:56,312 municipality suffers the 6081 03:32:56,312 --> 03:32:56,946 way key biscayne has, we 6082 03:32:56,946 --> 03:32:57,547 are not able to create 6083 03:32:57,547 --> 03:32:58,348 some sort of agreement to 6084 03:32:58,348 --> 03:32:58,648 help them opt into this 6085 03:32:58,648 --> 03:32:59,315 more easily? 6086 03:32:59,315 --> 03:32:59,982 I'm confused as to the 6087 03:32:59,982 --> 03:33:00,816 position that's currently 6088 03:33:00,816 --> 03:33:01,884 being taken by the board. 6089 03:33:01,884 --> 03:33:02,518 Hy wouldn't we allow our 6090 03:33:02,518 --> 03:33:03,119 municipalities to avail 6091 03:33:03,119 --> 03:33:03,919 themselves to an ordinance 6092 03:33:03,919 --> 03:33:04,587 that saves lives, that 6093 03:33:04,587 --> 03:33:05,540 have a ton of work and 6094 03:33:05,540 --> 03:33:05,922 that we all applaud? 6095 03:33:05,922 --> 03:33:06,523 I do not understand that. 6096 03:33:06,523 --> 03:33:06,890 >> if I can respond to 6097 03:33:06,890 --> 03:33:07,424 that. 6098 03:33:07,424 --> 03:33:08,124 What I'm saying is there 6099 03:33:08,124 --> 03:33:08,892 is a lot of public meeting 6100 03:33:08,892 --> 03:33:09,392 and input to come to this 6101 03:33:09,392 --> 03:33:09,993 ordinance. 6102 03:33:09,993 --> 03:33:10,560 It has very rickenbacker 6103 03:33:10,560 --> 03:33:11,460 specific penalties and it 6104 03:33:11,460 --> 03:33:14,460 doesn't speak to all the 6105 03:33:26,376 --> 03:33:27,244 meetings everything that 6106 03:33:27,244 --> 03:33:27,878 came before the ordinance. 6107 03:33:27,878 --> 03:33:28,379 What I'm saying is I'm 6108 03:33:28,379 --> 03:33:28,912 happy to draft an 6109 03:33:28,912 --> 03:33:29,779 ordinance for cities to 6110 03:33:29,779 --> 03:33:30,414 opt in, but it needs to 6111 03:33:30,414 --> 03:33:30,947 have a lot of the things 6112 03:33:30,947 --> 03:33:31,781 that are not in the 6113 03:33:31,781 --> 03:33:32,482 ordinance because the 6114 03:33:32,482 --> 03:33:33,250 ordinance came after two 6115 03:33:33,250 --> 03:33:33,517 years of working with key 6116 03:33:33,517 --> 03:33:34,317 biscayne. 6117 03:33:34,317 --> 03:33:35,318 I'm happy to work with 6118 03:33:35,318 --> 03:33:36,120 commissioner steinberg or 6119 03:33:36,120 --> 03:33:37,200 whoever wants to do it to 6120 03:33:37,200 --> 03:33:37,588 amend this ordinance and 6121 03:33:37,588 --> 03:33:38,656 another item that gives 6122 03:33:38,656 --> 03:33:39,456 the municipality and put, 6123 03:33:39,456 --> 03:33:40,900 speaks to the hearings and 6124 03:33:40,900 --> 03:33:40,324 everyone so that it can 6125 03:33:40,324 --> 03:33:40,991 opt in. 6126 03:33:40,991 --> 03:33:41,113 >> thank you for that. 6127 03:33:41,113 --> 03:33:41,692 O 6128 03:33:41,692 --> 03:33:42,559 the attorneys, what would 6129 03:33:42,559 --> 03:33:43,590 be the difficulty of 6130 03:33:43,590 --> 03:33:43,994 allowing the 6131 03:33:43,994 --> 03:33:44,494 municipalities to opt in 6132 03:33:44,494 --> 03:33:46,894 or whatever the proper 6133 03:33:48,599 --> 03:33:49,233 language is a way that 6134 03:33:49,233 --> 03:33:49,767 commissioner steinberg 6135 03:33:49,767 --> 03:33:50,534 just requested? 6136 03:33:50,534 --> 03:33:51,202 >> commissioner, that 6137 03:33:51,202 --> 03:33:53,602 would require an amendment 6138 03:33:58,443 --> 03:33:59,243 to section 2a as it is 6139 03:33:59,243 --> 03:34:00,111 currently written. 6140 03:34:00,111 --> 03:34:00,778 It is narrow to the 6141 03:34:00,778 --> 03:34:01,746 crandon park boulevard. 6142 03:34:01,746 --> 03:34:04,746 That section would need to 6143 03:34:11,556 --> 03:34:12,557 be amended to expand. 6144 03:34:12,557 --> 03:34:13,291 >> okay, it would need to 6145 03:34:13,291 --> 03:34:13,958 be amended to expand 6146 03:34:13,958 --> 03:34:14,125 applicability countywide 6147 03:34:14,125 --> 03:34:14,758 or. 6148 03:34:14,758 --> 03:34:15,393 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6149 03:34:15,393 --> 03:34:17,195 the opportunity for 6150 03:34:17,195 --> 03:34:17,862 existing municipalities to 6151 03:34:17,862 --> 03:34:18,431 adopt and should they be 6152 03:34:18,431 --> 03:34:18,964 able to do so? 6153 03:34:18,964 --> 03:34:19,431 I'm not trying to expand 6154 03:34:19,431 --> 03:34:20,398 it countywide. 6155 03:34:20,398 --> 03:34:21,366 That wasn't the question. 6156 03:34:21,366 --> 03:34:24,366 The question was to what 6157 03:34:26,772 --> 03:34:27,406 commissioner steinberg 6158 03:34:27,406 --> 03:34:27,806 referenced multiple times 6159 03:34:27,806 --> 03:34:29,806 very clearly. 6160 03:34:37,416 --> 03:34:38,851 >> it would be amended to 6161 03:34:38,851 --> 03:34:39,151 apply countywide with opt 6162 03:34:39,151 --> 03:34:39,852 in language. 6163 03:34:39,852 --> 03:34:40,786 >> so it wouldn't apply 6164 03:34:40,786 --> 03:34:41,453 countywide unless 6165 03:34:41,453 --> 03:34:43,453 municipalities elected to 6166 03:34:54,466 --> 03:34:55,500 enter into some sort of 6167 03:34:55,500 --> 03:34:56,350 interlocal agreement 6168 03:34:56,350 --> 03:34:56,970 opting in, correct? 6169 03:34:56,970 --> 03:34:57,537 >> I understand that to be 6170 03:34:57,537 --> 03:34:58,404 the request that this 6171 03:34:58,404 --> 03:34:59,138 board or commissioner 6172 03:34:59,138 --> 03:34:59,906 steinberg was requesting 6173 03:34:59,906 --> 03:35:00,439 for an amendment to have 6174 03:35:00,439 --> 03:35:01,207 it apply countywide but 6175 03:35:01,207 --> 03:35:01,607 allow the municipalities 6176 03:35:01,607 --> 03:35:02,409 to opt in. 6177 03:35:02,409 --> 03:35:05,511 So it wouldn't apply as a 6178 03:35:05,511 --> 03:35:06,346 matter of right, as a 6179 03:35:06,346 --> 03:35:07,247 matter of law. 6180 03:35:07,247 --> 03:35:08,248 Each municipality would 6181 03:35:08,248 --> 03:35:08,882 have to take an 6182 03:35:08,882 --> 03:35:09,749 affirmative step to opt in 6183 03:35:09,749 --> 03:35:10,416 after, you know, after 6184 03:35:10,416 --> 03:35:10,917 reviewing the ordinance. 6185 03:35:10,917 --> 03:35:12,917 >> MR. Chair? 6186 03:35:15,521 --> 03:35:16,189 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6187 03:35:16,189 --> 03:35:16,890 hold on. 6188 03:35:16,890 --> 03:35:17,457 You still have the floor. 6189 03:35:17,457 --> 03:35:18,358 Are you done? 6190 03:35:18,358 --> 03:35:20,358 >> I'm watching 6191 03:35:32,873 --> 03:35:33,807 commissioner steinberg and 6192 03:35:33,807 --> 03:35:34,507 it doesn't seem that 6193 03:35:34,507 --> 03:35:34,974 reflects what she was 6194 03:35:34,974 --> 03:35:35,810 trying to accomplish. 6195 03:35:35,810 --> 03:35:36,610 I'm trying to understand 6196 03:35:36,610 --> 03:35:37,143 if there was a vehicle to 6197 03:35:37,143 --> 03:35:38,112 reflect what the 6198 03:35:38,112 --> 03:35:38,345 commissioner specifically 6199 03:35:38,345 --> 03:35:39,213 stated. 6200 03:35:39,213 --> 03:35:39,813 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6201 03:35:39,813 --> 03:35:40,347 commissioner steinberg. 6202 03:35:40,347 --> 03:35:40,780 >> right. 6203 03:35:40,780 --> 03:35:41,682 My intent wasn't 6204 03:35:41,682 --> 03:35:44,820 necessarily to have this 6205 03:35:47,621 --> 03:35:47,888 blanket countywide 6206 03:35:47,888 --> 03:35:48,589 language. 6207 03:35:48,589 --> 03:35:49,223 It was more the ability to 6208 03:35:49,223 --> 03:35:49,790 have municipalities opt in 6209 03:35:49,790 --> 03:35:50,624 or districts opt in where 6210 03:35:50,624 --> 03:35:51,580 now we are thinking about 6211 03:35:51,580 --> 03:35:51,759 it with maybe the 6212 03:35:51,759 --> 03:35:52,559 unincorporated areas MAY 6213 03:35:52,559 --> 03:35:53,193 want to have some of this 6214 03:35:53,193 --> 03:35:53,794 regulation as well, but 6215 03:35:53,794 --> 03:35:54,394 ultimately was specific 6216 03:35:54,394 --> 03:35:54,995 and minor to allow for an 6217 03:35:54,995 --> 03:35:57,995 opt in motion, but maybe 6218 03:36:03,537 --> 03:36:04,838 at this time I'm happy and 6219 03:36:04,838 --> 03:36:05,907 I appreciate the line of 6220 03:36:05,907 --> 03:36:06,141 questioning, commissioner 6221 03:36:06,141 --> 03:36:06,841 higgins. 6222 03:36:06,841 --> 03:36:07,341 I think I'm happy to bring 6223 03:36:07,341 --> 03:36:10,341 -- by the way, does 6224 03:36:12,746 --> 03:36:13,248 anybody have a hold on 6225 03:36:13,248 --> 03:36:13,781 this? 6226 03:36:13,781 --> 03:36:14,315 I want to make sure if I 6227 03:36:14,315 --> 03:36:15,490 bring something forward 6228 03:36:15,490 --> 03:36:17,919 that I'll actually be able 6229 03:36:17,919 --> 03:36:18,953 to bring it forward 6230 03:36:18,953 --> 03:36:19,787 because can the attorneys 6231 03:36:19,787 --> 03:36:22,187 maybe draft something and 6232 03:36:56,858 --> 03:36:57,859 we have something today? 6233 03:36:57,859 --> 03:36:58,693 >> to the attorneys -- 6234 03:36:58,693 --> 03:36:59,270 well, go ahead and answer 6235 03:36:59,270 --> 03:36:59,761 that question. 6236 03:36:59,761 --> 03:37:00,461 The same way you were 6237 03:37:00,461 --> 03:37:02,630 saying we could amend it 6238 03:37:02,630 --> 03:37:02,730 to say this applies 6239 03:37:02,730 --> 03:37:03,565 countywide with an opt in, 6240 03:37:03,565 --> 03:37:04,365 we can amend it by saying 6241 03:37:04,365 --> 03:37:05,199 not apply countywide and 6242 03:37:05,199 --> 03:37:06,660 we would have, you know, 6243 03:37:06,660 --> 03:37:06,567 basically interlocal's 6244 03:37:06,567 --> 03:37:07,235 allowing for 6245 03:37:07,235 --> 03:37:08,102 municipalities to opt in 6246 03:37:08,102 --> 03:37:08,836 to the attorneys, so my 6247 03:37:08,836 --> 03:37:09,670 question is specific. 6248 03:37:09,670 --> 03:37:10,237 I'm asking you whether the 6249 03:37:10,237 --> 03:37:10,771 inverse of what you 6250 03:37:10,771 --> 03:37:12,573 proposed is possible. 6251 03:37:12,573 --> 03:37:13,540 Instead of saying we want 6252 03:37:13,540 --> 03:37:14,108 this to apply countywide, 6253 03:37:14,108 --> 03:37:14,775 we want to instead give 6254 03:37:14,775 --> 03:37:15,309 municipalities by local 6255 03:37:15,309 --> 03:37:16,176 interest we represent a 6256 03:37:16,176 --> 03:37:16,610 lot of municipalities that 6257 03:37:16,610 --> 03:37:16,720 MAY want to opt in. 6258 03:37:16,720 --> 03:37:17,377 S 6259 03:37:17,377 --> 03:37:17,678 that language a 6260 03:37:17,678 --> 03:37:18,312 possibility? 6261 03:37:18,312 --> 03:37:18,845 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6262 03:37:18,845 --> 03:37:19,112 you're recognized to the 6263 03:37:19,112 --> 03:37:19,713 attorneys. 6264 03:37:19,713 --> 03:37:21,713 > commissioner, I want 6265 03:37:22,181 --> 03:37:22,982 to be clear I understand 6266 03:37:22,982 --> 03:37:23,850 your question. 6267 03:37:23,850 --> 03:37:24,150 Can I kindly ask you to 6268 03:37:24,150 --> 03:37:24,617 repeat that? 6269 03:37:24,617 --> 03:37:25,351 >> absolutely. 6270 03:37:25,351 --> 03:37:26,850 You proposed having the 6271 03:37:26,850 --> 03:37:28,485 ordinance amended to apply 6272 03:37:33,759 --> 03:37:35,600 countywide with an opt in 6273 03:37:35,600 --> 03:37:35,794 by the municipalities. 6274 03:37:35,794 --> 03:37:36,562 The commissioner that made 6275 03:37:36,562 --> 03:37:37,290 the original request, 6276 03:37:37,290 --> 03:37:37,696 instead what I was 6277 03:37:37,696 --> 03:37:39,696 requesting his language 6278 03:37:47,272 --> 03:37:48,606 allowing specific 6279 03:37:48,606 --> 03:37:49,140 municipalities to opt in 6280 03:37:49,140 --> 03:37:49,307 should they desire to do 6281 03:37:49,307 --> 03:37:49,841 so. 6282 03:37:49,841 --> 03:37:50,708 It's taking the proposal 6283 03:37:50,708 --> 03:37:51,309 you made and creating the 6284 03:37:51,309 --> 03:37:52,343 inverse of that proposal. 6285 03:37:52,343 --> 03:37:52,552 My question is a simple 6286 03:37:52,552 --> 03:37:54,552 one. 6287 03:37:55,479 --> 03:37:56,714 Is that possible? 6288 03:37:56,714 --> 03:37:57,114 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6289 03:37:57,114 --> 03:37:58,248 yes, commissioner. 6290 03:37:58,248 --> 03:37:58,849 >> it is possible, so what 6291 03:37:58,849 --> 03:37:59,850 is the downside then of 6292 03:37:59,850 --> 03:38:01,752 including that language in 6293 03:38:01,752 --> 03:38:02,419 the ordinance considering 6294 03:38:02,419 --> 03:38:05,419 the lives that it saves, 6295 03:38:08,958 --> 03:38:09,793 the work it's done 6296 03:38:09,793 --> 03:38:10,426 applauding the work. 6297 03:38:10,426 --> 03:38:11,394 I represent -- what if 6298 03:38:11,394 --> 03:38:12,228 they want to be included? 6299 03:38:12,228 --> 03:38:15,228 I don't understand why we 6300 03:38:17,699 --> 03:38:18,900 would want to wait months 6301 03:38:18,900 --> 03:38:19,602 and months for a simple 6302 03:38:19,602 --> 03:38:20,703 item that essentially 6303 03:38:20,703 --> 03:38:21,603 could be accomplished here 6304 03:38:21,603 --> 03:38:22,137 via a simple amendment, 6305 03:38:22,137 --> 03:38:22,571 which is what I wanted to 6306 03:38:22,571 --> 03:38:24,571 clarify through the 6307 03:38:41,321 --> 03:38:42,389 attorneys whether that 6308 03:38:42,389 --> 03:38:43,290 amendment was possible. 6309 03:38:43,290 --> 03:38:43,791 >> if I could clarify, 6310 03:38:43,791 --> 03:38:44,458 commissioner, this 6311 03:38:44,458 --> 03:38:44,891 amendment only applies to 6312 03:38:44,891 --> 03:38:45,559 county roads. 6313 03:38:45,559 --> 03:38:46,293 >> we understand that. 6314 03:38:46,293 --> 03:38:46,560 I don't think anybody is 6315 03:38:46,560 --> 03:38:47,294 confused. 6316 03:38:47,294 --> 03:38:47,828 >> for the entire road 6317 03:38:47,828 --> 03:38:48,395 network within the 6318 03:38:48,395 --> 03:38:48,929 municipality, just wanted 6319 03:38:48,929 --> 03:38:49,295 to be clear. 6320 03:38:49,295 --> 03:38:51,295 >> thank you. 6321 03:39:10,482 --> 03:39:11,517 To respond to that 6322 03:39:11,517 --> 03:39:12,830 question, my concern is 6323 03:39:12,830 --> 03:39:12,984 notice and litigation. 6324 03:39:12,984 --> 03:39:13,819 As we work through this, 6325 03:39:13,819 --> 03:39:14,452 we dealt with a lot of 6326 03:39:14,452 --> 03:39:15,860 individuals that did not 6327 03:39:15,860 --> 03:39:15,887 agree with this ordinance, 6328 03:39:15,887 --> 03:39:16,388 but we had a series of 6329 03:39:16,388 --> 03:39:16,988 public meetings and we 6330 03:39:16,988 --> 03:39:17,589 worked through it to 6331 03:39:17,589 --> 03:39:18,389 ensure that the county 6332 03:39:18,389 --> 03:39:19,560 would not enter into 6333 03:39:19,560 --> 03:39:19,591 litigation as a result. 6334 03:39:19,591 --> 03:39:20,580 There is a reason the 6335 03:39:20,580 --> 03:39:21,590 governor vetoed it. 6336 03:39:21,590 --> 03:39:21,659 There is a group of humans 6337 03:39:21,659 --> 03:39:22,460 who did not want this type 6338 03:39:22,460 --> 03:39:23,270 of limitation to micro 6339 03:39:23,270 --> 03:39:25,427 mobility, and while this 6340 03:39:28,432 --> 03:39:29,433 gives some notice to the 6341 03:39:29,433 --> 03:39:30,670 municipalities, it does 6342 03:39:30,670 --> 03:39:30,768 not give them notice that 6343 03:39:30,768 --> 03:39:31,401 an item speaking 6344 03:39:31,401 --> 03:39:32,200 countywide would give. 6345 03:39:32,200 --> 03:39:32,936 Also, if you amended it 6346 03:39:32,936 --> 03:39:33,904 this way, you're focusing, 6347 03:39:33,904 --> 03:39:34,771 it's rickenbacker focused. 6348 03:39:34,771 --> 03:39:35,439 There's different county 6349 03:39:35,439 --> 03:39:37,107 roads with different 6350 03:39:37,107 --> 03:39:37,641 speeds and different 6351 03:39:37,641 --> 03:39:38,174 modalities and the 6352 03:39:38,174 --> 03:39:38,875 ordinance speaks to the 6353 03:39:38,875 --> 03:39:39,609 rickenbacker and crandon, 6354 03:39:39,609 --> 03:39:40,343 which is a different road 6355 03:39:40,343 --> 03:39:40,543 than a lot of county owned 6356 03:39:40,543 --> 03:39:41,111 roads. 6357 03:39:41,111 --> 03:39:41,678 Inally, we then 6358 03:39:41,678 --> 03:39:42,345 have to deal with the 6359 03:39:42,345 --> 03:39:45,945 issue of what we would do 6360 03:39:57,793 --> 03:39:58,960 in terms of -- for cities 6361 03:39:58,960 --> 03:39:59,594 for this prohibition on 6362 03:39:59,594 --> 03:40:00,295 county roads, then we need 6363 03:40:00,295 --> 03:40:00,962 a vehicle for this board 6364 03:40:00,962 --> 03:40:01,529 in terms of our county 6365 03:40:01,529 --> 03:40:03,529 roads. 6366 03:40:12,106 --> 03:40:13,174 Unincorporated is mainly 6367 03:40:13,174 --> 03:40:13,974 all county roads. 6368 03:40:13,974 --> 03:40:14,808 So that's why the 6369 03:40:14,808 --> 03:40:15,275 rickenbacker is different 6370 03:40:15,275 --> 03:40:15,909 because of the speeds. 6371 03:40:15,909 --> 03:40:17,377 It is the highway. 6372 03:40:17,377 --> 03:40:18,450 That's what I would 6373 03:40:18,450 --> 03:40:18,912 caution you, and I'm happy 6374 03:40:18,912 --> 03:40:19,813 to work on a comprehensive 6375 03:40:19,813 --> 03:40:20,280 item that really covers 6376 03:40:20,280 --> 03:40:21,810 this, but you need to 6377 03:40:21,810 --> 03:40:21,447 cover the speed, the size, 6378 03:40:21,447 --> 03:40:23,447 the cost. 6379 03:40:29,355 --> 03:40:30,223 This is very particular to 6380 03:40:30,223 --> 03:40:30,857 the rickenbacker and you 6381 03:40:30,857 --> 03:40:31,457 need to have public 6382 03:40:31,457 --> 03:40:31,991 meetings and bake that 6383 03:40:31,991 --> 03:40:32,892 into the process. 6384 03:40:32,892 --> 03:40:33,993 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6385 03:40:33,993 --> 03:40:34,627 hold on. 6386 03:40:34,627 --> 03:40:35,161 Commissioner gilbert, 6387 03:40:35,161 --> 03:40:36,610 you're recognized. 6388 03:40:36,610 --> 03:40:37,620 >> Oliver Gilbert: at the 6389 03:40:37,620 --> 03:40:37,729 risk of agreeing with 6390 03:40:37,729 --> 03:40:39,729 commissioner regalado 6391 03:40:42,300 --> 03:40:43,268 twice, I think she's 6392 03:40:43,268 --> 03:40:44,200 likely right on this. 6393 03:40:44,200 --> 03:40:47,200 And I think that it 6394 03:40:56,514 --> 03:40:57,581 actually came through 6395 03:40:57,581 --> 03:40:58,215 transportation. 6396 03:40:58,215 --> 03:40:59,116 And so the reason why it 6397 03:40:59,116 --> 03:40:59,783 passed through the 6398 03:40:59,783 --> 03:41:00,618 transportation committee 6399 03:41:00,618 --> 03:41:02,485 was because like it did 6400 03:41:02,485 --> 03:41:02,719 was because of its limited 6401 03:41:02,719 --> 03:41:03,286 nature. 6402 03:41:03,286 --> 03:41:03,821 This board can broaden it 6403 03:41:03,821 --> 03:41:04,454 if you'd like, but let's 6404 03:41:04,454 --> 03:41:05,355 be clear we do have a 6405 03:41:05,355 --> 03:41:05,589 committee process for a 6406 03:41:05,589 --> 03:41:06,560 reason. 6407 03:41:06,560 --> 03:41:09,560 This broad of an item 6408 03:41:12,829 --> 03:41:13,830 would have been treated 6409 03:41:13,830 --> 03:41:14,664 differently in committee. 6410 03:41:14,664 --> 03:41:17,534 So listen, I think that 6411 03:41:17,534 --> 03:41:18,467 the notice requirement is 6412 03:41:18,467 --> 03:41:19,402 a significant thing. 6413 03:41:19,402 --> 03:41:20,870 There are people who don't 6414 03:41:20,870 --> 03:41:21,403 agree with this. 6415 03:41:21,403 --> 03:41:23,803 While I do and 6416 03:41:24,606 --> 03:41:25,507 commissioner steinberg, 6417 03:41:25,507 --> 03:41:27,409 there are residents who 6418 03:41:27,409 --> 03:41:28,410 might have chosen to be 6419 03:41:28,410 --> 03:41:31,450 heard on this item in 6420 03:41:31,450 --> 03:41:32,614 committee had it -- it was 6421 03:41:32,614 --> 03:41:34,614 postured like this. 6422 03:41:35,820 --> 03:41:38,820 I would caution us about 6423 03:41:41,922 --> 03:41:42,923 changing something so 6424 03:41:42,923 --> 03:41:43,791 substantially at the board 6425 03:41:43,791 --> 03:41:44,458 level on an item that has 6426 03:41:44,458 --> 03:41:45,725 gone through committee, 6427 03:41:45,725 --> 03:41:46,994 MR. CHAIRMAN. 6428 03:41:46,994 --> 03:41:47,494 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6429 03:41:47,494 --> 03:41:49,494 okay. 6430 03:41:55,669 --> 03:41:56,670 Senator garcia. 6431 03:41:56,670 --> 03:41:57,672 >> Rene Garcia: I agree 6432 03:41:57,672 --> 03:41:58,105 with everything that's 6433 03:41:58,105 --> 03:41:58,639 being said, but the 6434 03:41:58,639 --> 03:41:58,906 request is an opt in 6435 03:41:58,906 --> 03:41:59,473 provision. 6436 03:41:59,473 --> 03:42:02,473 It's opting into the rules 6437 03:42:04,411 --> 03:42:05,645 that are being established 6438 03:42:05,645 --> 03:42:07,645 by the municipalities. 6439 03:42:12,419 --> 03:42:12,620 I get it's specific to the 6440 03:42:12,620 --> 03:42:13,587 road. 6441 03:42:13,587 --> 03:42:14,421 I get that it went through 6442 03:42:14,421 --> 03:42:15,550 the committee process, but 6443 03:42:15,550 --> 03:42:19,255 at the end of the day we 6444 03:42:22,496 --> 03:42:22,730 are representatives of the 6445 03:42:22,730 --> 03:42:23,297 people. 6446 03:42:23,297 --> 03:42:24,310 Think it's incumbent on 6447 03:42:24,310 --> 03:42:26,310 the municipality itself 6448 03:42:38,580 --> 03:42:39,414 that wants to opt in to do 6449 03:42:39,414 --> 03:42:40,480 what they need to do for 6450 03:42:40,480 --> 03:42:40,682 their municipality, but I 6451 03:42:40,682 --> 03:42:41,449 don't see a problem with 6452 03:42:41,449 --> 03:42:41,617 having municipalities opt 6453 03:42:41,617 --> 03:42:42,417 in. 6454 03:42:42,417 --> 03:42:42,917 We are not even pushing 6455 03:42:42,917 --> 03:42:43,650 anything on anyone. 6456 03:42:43,650 --> 03:42:43,918 E 6457 03:42:43,918 --> 03:42:44,452 created this law, you 6458 03:42:44,452 --> 03:42:45,153 understand? 6459 03:42:45,153 --> 03:42:45,954 There's some limitations 6460 03:42:45,954 --> 03:42:49,825 to it, but you can use the 6461 03:42:49,825 --> 03:42:50,191 parameters to apply it to 6462 03:42:50,191 --> 03:42:50,959 ur constituency. 6463 03:42:50,959 --> 03:42:51,726 I am perfectly fine with 6464 03:42:51,726 --> 03:42:52,326 seconding the amendment 6465 03:42:52,326 --> 03:42:52,827 and trying to get this 6466 03:42:52,827 --> 03:42:53,828 moving forward. 6467 03:42:53,828 --> 03:42:55,828 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6468 03:43:11,380 --> 03:43:12,247 sub itself, but as 6469 03:43:12,247 --> 03:43:14,647 amended, but hold on. 6470 03:43:16,186 --> 03:43:16,886 I have commissioner -- I 6471 03:43:16,886 --> 03:43:19,855 have gonzalez in the queue 6472 03:43:19,855 --> 03:43:23,455 and I will go to lopez. 6473 03:43:30,966 --> 03:43:31,534 >> Roberto Gonzalez: 6474 03:43:31,534 --> 03:43:32,502 thank you, MR. Chair. 6475 03:43:32,502 --> 03:43:34,203 I do appreciate 6476 03:43:34,203 --> 03:43:34,704 commissioner regalado's 6477 03:43:34,704 --> 03:43:35,371 explanation of the 6478 03:43:35,371 --> 03:43:35,839 complexity of how this was 6479 03:43:35,839 --> 03:43:36,473 brought forward. 6480 03:43:36,473 --> 03:43:38,873 I think it's something 6481 03:43:43,580 --> 03:43:44,614 that was very much needed. 6482 03:43:44,614 --> 03:43:45,247 However, there is 6483 03:43:45,247 --> 03:43:46,150 something the county 6484 03:43:46,150 --> 03:43:46,683 attorney said really 6485 03:43:46,683 --> 03:43:47,250 caught my attention and 6486 03:43:47,250 --> 03:43:47,851 that was that this was 6487 03:43:47,851 --> 03:43:48,185 only applicable to county 6488 03:43:48,185 --> 03:43:50,185 roads. 6489 03:44:06,738 --> 03:44:08,390 And so from what I 6490 03:44:08,390 --> 03:44:08,706 understand, commissioner 6491 03:44:08,706 --> 03:44:09,273 steinberg was requesting 6492 03:44:09,273 --> 03:44:10,107 that the amendment apply 6493 03:44:10,107 --> 03:44:11,410 if, and correct me if I'm 6494 03:44:11,410 --> 03:44:11,642 wrong, commissioner 6495 03:44:11,642 --> 03:44:12,276 steinberg, if it passes 6496 03:44:12,276 --> 03:44:13,177 through the municipality. 6497 03:44:13,177 --> 03:44:14,211 I think of it went through 6498 03:44:14,211 --> 03:44:15,120 a municipality, logically, 6499 03:44:15,120 --> 03:44:15,612 and a municipality had 6500 03:44:15,612 --> 03:44:17,982 noticed hearings and a 6501 03:44:17,982 --> 03:44:19,160 municipality voted to have 6502 03:44:19,160 --> 03:44:19,650 municipal roads engaged in 6503 03:44:19,650 --> 03:44:20,318 something similar, I think 6504 03:44:20,318 --> 03:44:23,318 that what you were trying 6505 03:44:30,595 --> 03:44:32,630 to do is, since those 6506 03:44:32,630 --> 03:44:32,630 municipal roads within the 6507 03:44:32,630 --> 03:44:33,598 municipality that had 6508 03:44:33,598 --> 03:44:34,131 those public hearings have 6509 03:44:34,131 --> 03:44:34,832 adopted it for the 6510 03:44:34,832 --> 03:44:35,599 municipality, perhaps they 6511 03:44:35,599 --> 03:44:36,167 can just opt in so that 6512 03:44:36,167 --> 03:44:38,567 the county roads are 6513 03:44:42,730 --> 03:44:42,674 applicable as well. 6514 03:44:42,674 --> 03:44:43,508 I think that that would 6515 03:44:43,508 --> 03:44:44,750 solve the issue with 6516 03:44:44,750 --> 03:44:46,475 public notice along with 6517 03:44:55,587 --> 03:44:56,622 the issues of speed and 6518 03:44:56,622 --> 03:44:57,289 the discrepancies as to 6519 03:44:57,289 --> 03:44:57,689 whether the notice had to 6520 03:44:57,689 --> 03:44:59,689 be heard here. 6521 03:44:59,858 --> 03:45:00,826 I don't know if you want 6522 03:45:00,826 --> 03:45:04,426 to continue, but I think I 6523 03:45:32,825 --> 03:45:33,920 would be supportive of an 6524 03:45:33,920 --> 03:45:33,926 amendment. 6525 03:45:33,926 --> 03:45:34,760 >> MR. Chair? 6526 03:45:34,760 --> 03:45:35,327 >> Vicki Lopez: thank 6527 03:45:35,327 --> 03:45:35,862 you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 6528 03:45:35,862 --> 03:45:36,129 I just -- I have a quick 6529 03:45:36,129 --> 03:45:36,929 question. 6530 03:45:36,929 --> 03:45:37,797 I have been dealing with 6531 03:45:37,797 --> 03:45:38,264 this as a state rep, but I 6532 03:45:38,264 --> 03:45:38,832 have a question. 6533 03:45:38,832 --> 03:45:39,332 In the case of key 6534 03:45:39,332 --> 03:45:40,330 biscayne, it banned all 6535 03:45:40,330 --> 03:45:40,466 micro mobility devices on 6536 03:45:40,466 --> 03:45:41,300 their own streets. 6537 03:45:41,300 --> 03:45:42,100 The only one that runs 6538 03:45:42,100 --> 03:45:42,435 through the village is 6539 03:45:42,435 --> 03:45:43,136 crandon boulevard. 6540 03:45:43,136 --> 03:45:46,136 It is a county road. 6541 03:45:48,275 --> 03:45:48,842 So despite whatever a 6542 03:45:48,842 --> 03:45:49,743 municipality MAY or MAY 6543 03:45:49,743 --> 03:45:50,577 not do with their roads, I 6544 03:45:50,577 --> 03:45:51,410 believe the question here 6545 03:45:51,410 --> 03:45:51,911 is about what to do with a 6546 03:45:51,911 --> 03:45:52,779 county road that runs 6547 03:45:52,779 --> 03:45:53,513 through a municipality, 6548 03:45:53,513 --> 03:45:54,130 whether they do anything 6549 03:45:54,130 --> 03:45:56,413 or they don't, right? 6550 03:46:15,335 --> 03:46:17,104 i don't know, and this is 6551 03:46:17,104 --> 03:46:17,705 a question to commissioner 6552 03:46:17,705 --> 03:46:18,339 regalado, if her item -- 6553 03:46:18,339 --> 03:46:19,173 because I know this item 6554 03:46:19,173 --> 03:46:19,340 was introduced two years 6555 03:46:19,340 --> 03:46:20,107 ago. 6556 03:46:20,107 --> 03:46:20,674 It was sunset. 6557 03:46:20,674 --> 03:46:21,275 So the question is are the 6558 03:46:21,275 --> 03:46:22,776 regulations, are the rules 6559 03:46:22,776 --> 03:46:23,577 governing the right of 6560 03:46:23,577 --> 03:46:24,378 ways and speed limits and 6561 03:46:24,378 --> 03:46:25,450 all of that, is that 6562 03:46:25,450 --> 03:46:25,612 specific to key biscayne? 6563 03:46:25,612 --> 03:46:26,514 Because if it is, I don't 6564 03:46:26,514 --> 03:46:27,150 know how you would allow 6565 03:46:27,150 --> 03:46:27,682 another municipality to 6566 03:46:27,682 --> 03:46:28,116 opt in because you would 6567 03:46:28,116 --> 03:46:28,716 be asking every 6568 03:46:28,716 --> 03:46:29,517 municipality to comply 6569 03:46:29,517 --> 03:46:30,785 with what key biscayne 6570 03:46:30,785 --> 03:46:32,785 decided. 6571 03:46:41,128 --> 03:46:42,263 Is that true? 6572 03:46:42,263 --> 03:46:43,640 >> yes, it is specific to 6573 03:46:43,640 --> 03:46:43,564 key biscayne as are the 6574 03:46:43,564 --> 03:46:44,232 penalty amounts and the 6575 03:46:44,232 --> 03:46:45,320 understanding of the speed 6576 03:46:45,320 --> 03:46:45,700 based on the roads. 6577 03:46:45,700 --> 03:46:46,568 That's what I was saying 6578 03:46:46,568 --> 03:46:47,235 if we are going to do 6579 03:46:47,235 --> 03:46:47,836 something that is broader 6580 03:46:47,836 --> 03:46:48,537 than this, I'm happy to 6581 03:46:48,537 --> 03:46:49,170 draft something, but it 6582 03:46:49,170 --> 03:46:50,905 would have to have 6583 03:46:50,905 --> 03:46:51,973 different categories for 6584 03:46:51,973 --> 03:46:52,707 different types of roads 6585 03:46:52,707 --> 03:46:53,207 that have different 6586 03:46:53,207 --> 03:46:54,442 speeds, different 6587 03:46:54,442 --> 03:46:54,976 sidewalks, and you would 6588 03:46:54,976 --> 03:46:55,576 have to have different 6589 03:46:55,576 --> 03:46:55,878 pricing for the 6590 03:46:55,878 --> 03:46:56,378 violations. 6591 03:46:56,378 --> 03:46:56,845 His is built 6592 03:46:56,845 --> 03:46:57,479 specifically for 6593 03:46:57,479 --> 03:46:59,479 rickenbacker and crandon. 6594 03:47:10,910 --> 03:47:10,859 >> if I MAY, I think I 6595 03:47:10,859 --> 03:47:11,827 have an idea. 6596 03:47:11,827 --> 03:47:12,794 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6597 03:47:12,794 --> 03:47:13,328 yes, but one second. 6598 03:47:13,328 --> 03:47:13,828 Commissioner cohen 6599 03:47:13,828 --> 03:47:14,128 higgins, you're 6600 03:47:14,128 --> 03:47:14,963 recognized. 6601 03:47:14,963 --> 03:47:15,831 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 6602 03:47:15,831 --> 03:47:17,433 to the sponsor of the 6603 03:47:17,433 --> 03:47:18,401 item, section 5 of the 6604 03:47:18,401 --> 03:47:18,768 item says enforcement by 6605 03:47:18,768 --> 03:47:19,468 municipalities. 6606 03:47:19,468 --> 03:47:20,135 A municipality MAY upon 6607 03:47:20,135 --> 03:47:23,135 approval of the board of 6608 03:47:31,447 --> 03:47:32,140 county commissioners as it 6609 03:47:32,140 --> 03:47:32,948 relates to roads within 6610 03:47:32,948 --> 03:47:33,282 the boundaries of said 6611 03:47:33,282 --> 03:47:34,116 municipality. 6612 03:47:34,116 --> 03:47:34,984 The agenda item approving 6613 03:47:34,984 --> 03:47:35,919 such agreement shall be 6614 03:47:35,919 --> 03:47:37,620 sponsored by a district 6615 03:47:37,620 --> 03:47:38,488 commissioner in whose 6616 03:47:38,488 --> 03:47:39,220 district any portion of 6617 03:47:39,220 --> 03:47:39,589 such municipality lies. 6618 03:47:39,589 --> 03:47:42,589 So it's already in the 6619 03:47:57,274 --> 03:47:58,442 ordinance. 6620 03:47:58,442 --> 03:47:59,443 We're talking about this 6621 03:47:59,443 --> 03:48:00,377 being rickenbacker and key 6622 03:48:00,377 --> 03:48:00,977 biscayne specifically, but 6623 03:48:00,977 --> 03:48:01,945 there's section 5, section 6624 03:48:01,945 --> 03:48:02,345 6 enforcement talks about 6625 03:48:02,345 --> 03:48:02,579 municipality. 6626 03:48:02,579 --> 03:48:04,180 Ection 6d, 6627 03:48:04,180 --> 03:48:05,348 a municipality entering 6628 03:48:05,348 --> 03:48:05,950 into a local agreement as 6629 03:48:05,950 --> 03:48:06,383 provided in this section 6630 03:48:06,383 --> 03:48:07,170 MAY provide for 6631 03:48:07,170 --> 03:48:07,885 enforcement in accordance 6632 03:48:07,885 --> 03:48:08,385 with its own procedures. 6633 03:48:08,385 --> 03:48:08,919 And then section 7 6634 03:48:08,919 --> 03:48:09,386 entirely speaks to 6635 03:48:09,386 --> 03:48:09,987 specific language. 6636 03:48:09,987 --> 03:48:12,987 I don't know how the 6637 03:48:21,331 --> 03:48:22,800 question that the 6638 03:48:22,800 --> 03:48:23,333 commissioner really baked 6639 03:48:23,333 --> 03:48:24,100 into the ordinance, which 6640 03:48:24,100 --> 03:48:24,801 is why many of us found it 6641 03:48:24,801 --> 03:48:25,269 extremely difficult to 6642 03:48:25,269 --> 03:48:25,936 understand how this 6643 03:48:25,936 --> 03:48:26,504 ordinance could not have 6644 03:48:26,504 --> 03:48:30,704 an opt in so much so that 6645 03:48:40,752 --> 03:48:41,180 is already built into the 6646 03:48:41,180 --> 03:48:42,252 ordinance. 6647 03:48:42,252 --> 03:48:42,720 >> MR. Chair, if I can 6648 03:48:42,720 --> 03:48:43,387 respond to that. 6649 03:48:43,387 --> 03:48:44,389 >> is that accurate? 6650 03:48:44,389 --> 03:48:45,289 >> commissioner, section 2 6651 03:48:45,289 --> 03:48:45,957 a identifies the 6652 03:48:45,957 --> 03:48:46,491 applicability of the code 6653 03:48:46,491 --> 03:48:47,291 provision itself. 6654 03:48:47,291 --> 03:48:47,926 It says that this section 6655 03:48:47,926 --> 03:48:48,760 shall be applicable to 6656 03:48:48,760 --> 03:48:49,293 crandon boulevard between 6657 03:48:49,293 --> 03:48:49,994 the village of key 6658 03:48:49,994 --> 03:48:50,828 biscayne to accomplish 6659 03:48:50,828 --> 03:48:52,664 what commissioner cohen 6660 03:48:52,664 --> 03:48:53,931 higgins is suggesting 6661 03:48:53,931 --> 03:48:55,466 would just require either 6662 03:48:55,466 --> 03:48:57,866 a deletion or modification 6663 03:49:05,543 --> 03:49:05,844 of 2 a to broaden that 6664 03:49:05,844 --> 03:49:07,120 definition. 6665 03:49:07,120 --> 03:49:07,479 >> MR. Chair, if I can 6666 03:49:07,479 --> 03:49:08,460 explain? 6667 03:49:08,460 --> 03:49:08,547 Several times I've brought 6668 03:49:08,547 --> 03:49:08,981 items and we've had 6669 03:49:08,981 --> 03:49:09,715 questions about the 6670 03:49:09,715 --> 03:49:10,549 language of the ordinance 6671 03:49:10,549 --> 03:49:12,949 and that's because time 6672 03:49:16,880 --> 03:49:16,655 and time again our county 6673 03:49:16,655 --> 03:49:17,523 attorneys tell us that we 6674 03:49:17,523 --> 03:49:18,324 cannot draft something 6675 03:49:18,324 --> 03:49:21,324 that is hyper specific to 6676 03:49:29,201 --> 03:49:30,335 an area, that it must 6677 03:49:30,335 --> 03:49:31,237 further back to the entire 6678 03:49:31,237 --> 03:49:31,704 code and then get specific 6679 03:49:31,704 --> 03:49:32,571 in the body. 6680 03:49:32,571 --> 03:49:33,171 I am not doing anything 6681 03:49:33,171 --> 03:49:33,605 that everyone doesn't do 6682 03:49:33,605 --> 03:49:34,340 in a single item. 6683 03:49:34,340 --> 03:49:36,910 In fact, when we suspended 6684 03:49:36,910 --> 03:49:37,744 the cra that we are going 6685 03:49:37,744 --> 03:49:38,444 to visit tonight, it had 6686 03:49:38,444 --> 03:49:40,844 language that applied to 6687 03:49:53,993 --> 03:49:55,127 everyone and specified 6688 03:49:55,127 --> 03:49:55,661 that this is only for -- 6689 03:49:55,661 --> 03:49:56,463 because this is what the 6690 03:49:56,463 --> 03:49:57,960 county attorneys tell us 6691 03:49:57,960 --> 03:49:57,964 we need to do so as not to 6692 03:49:57,964 --> 03:49:58,231 create anomalies inside 6693 03:49:58,231 --> 03:49:58,965 the code. 6694 03:49:58,965 --> 03:49:59,533 I have to bring an item 6695 03:49:59,533 --> 03:50:00,200 that complies with the 6696 03:50:00,200 --> 03:50:00,467 entire code of miami-dade 6697 03:50:00,467 --> 03:50:01,501 county. 6698 03:50:01,501 --> 03:50:01,968 That's why it refers back 6699 03:50:01,968 --> 03:50:03,968 to those pieces. 6700 03:50:15,715 --> 03:50:17,510 i cannot create a vehicle 6701 03:50:17,510 --> 03:50:17,585 for the acceptance of an 6702 03:50:17,585 --> 03:50:18,218 interlocal that is 6703 03:50:18,218 --> 03:50:19,860 different from the general 6704 03:50:19,860 --> 03:50:19,720 rules of how an interlocal 6705 03:50:19,720 --> 03:50:20,688 is accepted for any other 6706 03:50:20,688 --> 03:50:21,880 modality or purpose in 6707 03:50:21,880 --> 03:50:21,722 miami-dade county. 6708 03:50:21,722 --> 03:50:22,455 So no, the item is not in 6709 03:50:22,455 --> 03:50:24,191 conflict with itself, but 6710 03:50:24,191 --> 03:50:24,657 it is specific to key 6711 03:50:24,657 --> 03:50:25,158 biscayne as are the 6712 03:50:25,158 --> 03:50:25,692 penalties that were 6713 03:50:25,692 --> 03:50:26,360 negotiated with the 6714 03:50:26,360 --> 03:50:26,894 residents of key biscayne 6715 03:50:26,894 --> 03:50:27,662 and the village. 6716 03:50:27,662 --> 03:50:28,495 And again, I'm happy to 6717 03:50:28,495 --> 03:50:28,929 add to this ordinance with 6718 03:50:28,929 --> 03:50:30,929 a separate item. 6719 03:50:40,274 --> 03:50:41,375 I would ask that it had 6720 03:50:41,375 --> 03:50:42,210 meetings and discussions. 6721 03:50:42,210 --> 03:50:42,843 I don't think that we 6722 03:50:42,843 --> 03:50:44,478 should amend this so that 6723 03:50:44,478 --> 03:50:45,120 a municipality passes 6724 03:50:45,120 --> 03:50:45,613 something and all the 6725 03:50:45,613 --> 03:50:46,247 sudden there's a county 6726 03:50:46,247 --> 03:50:46,981 road that prohibits this 6727 03:50:46,981 --> 03:50:47,715 type of modality because 6728 03:50:47,715 --> 03:50:49,584 it is really far-reaching 6729 03:50:49,584 --> 03:50:50,485 and what it will do is go 6730 03:50:50,485 --> 03:50:51,119 in the other direction and 6731 03:50:51,119 --> 03:50:52,860 get as preempted when it 6732 03:50:52,860 --> 03:50:52,387 comes to these types of 6733 03:50:52,387 --> 03:50:53,530 regulations. 6734 03:50:53,530 --> 03:50:53,588 >> to the attorneys 6735 03:50:53,588 --> 03:50:54,355 because now I want 6736 03:50:54,355 --> 03:50:56,355 clarification because both 6737 03:51:05,333 --> 03:51:06,135 are making a good 6738 03:51:06,135 --> 03:51:06,769 argument. 6739 03:51:06,769 --> 03:51:07,636 It's not even an argument. 6740 03:51:07,636 --> 03:51:08,270 One is making an argument, 6741 03:51:08,270 --> 03:51:08,937 one is reading straight 6742 03:51:08,937 --> 03:51:09,337 out of the item, which is 6743 03:51:09,337 --> 03:51:09,871 very clear to me. 6744 03:51:09,871 --> 03:51:10,772 So which is it? 6745 03:51:10,772 --> 03:51:11,706 Can it be done today per 6746 03:51:11,706 --> 03:51:15,306 the item already or is it 6747 03:51:17,179 --> 03:51:18,147 specific only and 6748 03:51:18,147 --> 03:51:18,714 exclusively to key 6749 03:51:18,714 --> 03:51:19,315 biscayne and the 6750 03:51:19,315 --> 03:51:19,715 rickenbacker and all that 6751 03:51:19,715 --> 03:51:21,183 stuff? 6752 03:51:21,183 --> 03:51:21,750 Which one is it? 6753 03:51:21,750 --> 03:51:22,317 >> the item could be 6754 03:51:22,317 --> 03:51:22,884 amended today if it's the 6755 03:51:22,884 --> 03:51:23,752 will of the board. 6756 03:51:23,752 --> 03:51:24,319 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6757 03:51:24,319 --> 03:51:24,853 okay, but that doesn't 6758 03:51:24,853 --> 03:51:26,853 answer my question. 6759 03:51:35,364 --> 03:51:36,298 >> let me just bring it in 6760 03:51:36,298 --> 03:51:36,966 because I brought this up. 6761 03:51:36,966 --> 03:51:37,533 >> I'm sorry, I didn't get 6762 03:51:37,533 --> 03:51:38,401 that part because the item 6763 03:51:38,401 --> 03:51:39,680 is written in the 6764 03:51:39,680 --> 03:51:40,200 applicability section. 6765 03:51:40,200 --> 03:51:42,200 The applicability section 6766 03:51:49,145 --> 03:51:50,246 is narrowed to key 6767 03:51:50,246 --> 03:51:51,800 boulevard in key biscayne. 6768 03:51:51,800 --> 03:51:51,647 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6769 03:51:51,647 --> 03:51:52,581 it's not open to everyone 6770 03:51:52,581 --> 03:51:53,282 even though it reads that 6771 03:51:53,282 --> 03:51:54,160 it is, but it's tricky and 6772 03:51:54,160 --> 03:51:54,750 you guys figure it out. 6773 03:51:54,750 --> 03:51:56,750 Ommissioner steinberg, 6774 03:52:00,656 --> 03:52:01,825 you're recognized. 6775 03:52:01,825 --> 03:52:02,592 >> Micky Steinberg: I 6776 03:52:02,592 --> 03:52:03,259 just want to back it up. 6777 03:52:03,259 --> 03:52:04,127 Y intention was to back 6778 03:52:04,127 --> 03:52:04,360 it up and give it the 6779 03:52:04,360 --> 03:52:04,860 ability. 6780 03:52:04,860 --> 03:52:05,294 I want to thank my 6781 03:52:05,294 --> 03:52:06,163 colleagues because 6782 03:52:06,163 --> 03:52:08,563 obviously the section you 6783 03:52:09,199 --> 03:52:10,567 read is what prompted the 6784 03:52:10,567 --> 03:52:11,167 whole initiation of 6785 03:52:11,167 --> 03:52:12,350 wanting to have other 6786 03:52:12,350 --> 03:52:12,702 cities because it said it 6787 03:52:12,702 --> 03:52:15,702 there I'm not an attorney. 6788 03:52:44,101 --> 03:52:44,668 I spoke to the attorney 6789 03:52:44,668 --> 03:52:44,935 yesterday. 6790 03:52:44,935 --> 03:52:45,369 He said yes, 6791 03:52:45,369 --> 03:52:46,137 we can broaden it. 6792 03:52:46,137 --> 03:52:46,971 I didn't think it would 6793 03:52:46,971 --> 03:52:47,238 have a broader impact in 6794 03:52:47,238 --> 03:52:47,938 that way. 6795 03:52:47,938 --> 03:52:48,473 I was trying to do 6796 03:52:48,473 --> 03:52:49,173 something to help 6797 03:52:49,173 --> 03:52:49,940 municipalities regulate on 6798 03:52:49,940 --> 03:52:50,574 their county road. 6799 03:52:50,574 --> 03:52:51,542 Having said that, being 6800 03:52:51,542 --> 03:52:52,142 that commissioner lopez 6801 03:52:52,142 --> 03:52:53,440 did bring up the type of 6802 03:52:53,440 --> 03:52:53,711 speed limit that could 6803 03:52:53,711 --> 03:52:55,711 potentially be slightly 6804 03:52:55,746 --> 03:52:56,481 different, I would ask my 6805 03:52:56,481 --> 03:52:57,349 colleagues for the support 6806 03:52:57,349 --> 03:52:57,916 to waive the rules and let 6807 03:52:57,916 --> 03:52:59,317 me at least have the 6808 03:52:59,317 --> 03:53:00,217 ability to work on almost 6809 03:53:00,217 --> 03:53:00,752 an amendment to this item 6810 03:53:00,752 --> 03:53:01,686 so that we can bring 6811 03:53:01,686 --> 03:53:02,219 something forward that MAY 6812 03:53:02,219 --> 03:53:02,787 also want to help the 6813 03:53:02,787 --> 03:53:03,287 unincorporated areas, I 6814 03:53:03,287 --> 03:53:03,955 don't know. 6815 03:53:03,955 --> 03:53:04,922 That way I'm not going to 6816 03:53:04,922 --> 03:53:05,489 be blocked from bringing 6817 03:53:05,489 --> 03:53:06,325 something because someone 6818 03:53:06,325 --> 03:53:07,292 MAY have a hold on them. 6819 03:53:07,292 --> 03:53:07,793 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6820 03:53:07,793 --> 03:53:10,793 okay, so let's do this. 6821 03:53:28,647 --> 03:53:30,782 That works for me, too, so 6822 03:53:30,782 --> 03:53:31,650 let's take a vote on this 6823 03:53:31,650 --> 03:53:32,584 item 1st and if there's no 6824 03:53:32,584 --> 03:53:33,218 further discussion on it 6825 03:53:33,218 --> 03:53:34,860 and I'll entertain the 6826 03:53:34,860 --> 03:53:34,720 motion from commissioner 6827 03:53:34,720 --> 03:53:35,587 steinberg on if it exists. 6828 03:53:35,587 --> 03:53:36,322 There MAY not be a hold on 6829 03:53:36,322 --> 03:53:36,789 it, but if there is, waive 6830 03:53:36,789 --> 03:53:37,222 the rules to -- 6831 03:53:37,222 --> 03:53:38,157 >> shall it. 6832 03:53:38,157 --> 03:53:39,158 >> Raquel Regalado: it's 6833 03:53:39,158 --> 03:53:39,792 been moved by commissioner 6834 03:53:39,792 --> 03:53:40,159 regalado, seconded by the 6835 03:53:40,159 --> 03:53:40,693 vice chair. 6836 03:53:40,693 --> 03:53:40,893 Clerk, please call the 6837 03:53:40,893 --> 03:53:41,860 roll. 6838 03:53:41,860 --> 03:53:42,227 >> commissioner gonzalez. 6839 03:53:42,227 --> 03:53:44,227 >> for. 6840 03:53:51,637 --> 03:53:52,271 [Roll call] 6841 03:53:52,271 --> 03:53:53,105 >> I thought it was gonna 6842 03:53:53,105 --> 03:53:53,939 be a skinny minute, but 6843 03:53:53,939 --> 03:53:56,339 the answer was yes. 6844 03:54:00,880 --> 03:54:01,714 >> chairmann rodriguez. 6845 03:54:01,714 --> 03:54:01,981 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 6846 03:54:01,981 --> 03:54:02,782 vote yes. 6847 03:54:02,782 --> 03:54:03,349 >> Mayor Levine Cava: now 6848 03:54:03,349 --> 03:54:04,217 commissioner steinberg 6849 03:54:04,217 --> 03:54:06,617 moves in the event 6850 03:54:16,528 --> 03:54:16,728 necessary, but moves to -- 6851 03:54:16,728 --> 03:54:17,429 jerry? 6852 03:54:17,429 --> 03:54:17,629 >> CHAIRMAN, point of 6853 03:54:17,629 --> 03:54:18,130 order. 6854 03:54:18,130 --> 03:54:18,930 If she just brought an 6855 03:54:18,930 --> 03:54:19,597 item, and then if there 6856 03:54:19,597 --> 03:54:20,650 was a hold, her bringing 6857 03:54:20,650 --> 03:54:20,632 in item would've 6858 03:54:20,632 --> 03:54:21,433 eliminated the hold. 6859 03:54:21,433 --> 03:54:24,433 Somebody else might have a 6860 03:54:28,906 --> 03:54:29,640 hold. 6861 03:54:29,640 --> 03:54:30,140 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6862 03:54:30,140 --> 03:54:30,941 jerry, is there -- 6863 03:54:30,941 --> 03:54:31,609 >> we don't know if there 6864 03:54:31,609 --> 03:54:32,176 is a hold, but all she is 6865 03:54:32,176 --> 03:54:32,976 saying she would like to 6866 03:54:32,976 --> 03:54:33,577 work on an item amending 6867 03:54:33,577 --> 03:54:34,311 this one, so to the extent 6868 03:54:34,311 --> 03:54:35,120 the board waives the rules 6869 03:54:35,120 --> 03:54:38,612 to allow her to work on 6870 03:54:40,984 --> 03:54:41,918 that item. 6871 03:54:41,918 --> 03:54:42,485 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6872 03:54:42,485 --> 03:54:42,852 it's been moved, it's been 6873 03:54:42,852 --> 03:54:43,860 seconded. 6874 03:54:43,860 --> 03:54:43,720 Ll in favor 6875 03:54:43,720 --> 03:54:44,187 say aye say aye. 6876 03:54:44,187 --> 03:54:44,988 >> aye. 6877 03:54:44,988 --> 03:54:47,388 >> so we just placed 6878 03:54:59,468 --> 03:54:59,635 steinberg in first place 6879 03:54:59,635 --> 03:55:00,302 now? 6880 03:55:00,302 --> 03:55:01,690 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: we 6881 03:55:01,690 --> 03:55:01,703 did on that one item, so 6882 03:55:01,703 --> 03:55:02,571 congrats to steinberg. 6883 03:55:02,571 --> 03:55:03,205 Vice chair, do you want to 6884 03:55:03,205 --> 03:55:04,539 take a point of privilege 6885 03:55:04,539 --> 03:55:07,539 to recognize some of your 6886 03:55:13,247 --> 03:55:14,150 interns? 6887 03:55:14,150 --> 03:55:14,414 >> thank you, MR. 6888 03:55:14,414 --> 03:55:14,949 CHAIRMAN. 6889 03:55:14,949 --> 03:55:15,516 Today we have the future 6890 03:55:15,516 --> 03:55:16,384 of america sitting here in 6891 03:55:16,384 --> 03:55:17,510 the chambers and I'm going 6892 03:55:17,510 --> 03:55:17,785 to ask those young lady 6893 03:55:17,785 --> 03:55:18,352 and young men who have 6894 03:55:18,352 --> 03:55:19,286 been interning in my 6895 03:55:19,286 --> 03:55:19,586 office to stand up and be 6896 03:55:19,586 --> 03:55:20,287 recognized. 6897 03:55:20,287 --> 03:55:21,155 Ladies and gentlemen, 6898 03:55:21,155 --> 03:55:23,555 these are the future 6899 03:55:45,611 --> 03:55:45,911 interns. 6900 03:55:45,911 --> 03:55:46,778 [Applause] 6901 03:55:46,778 --> 03:55:47,712 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 6902 03:55:47,712 --> 03:55:48,613 MR. CHAIRMAN, I have the 6903 03:55:48,613 --> 03:55:49,347 honor and privilege of 6904 03:55:49,347 --> 03:55:50,115 actually representing 6905 03:55:50,115 --> 03:55:50,715 these young individuals, 6906 03:55:50,715 --> 03:55:51,415 but they represent the 6907 03:55:51,415 --> 03:55:52,116 community and there are a 6908 03:55:52,116 --> 03:55:52,751 total of 21 of them 6909 03:55:52,751 --> 03:55:53,418 working out of our office. 6910 03:55:53,418 --> 03:55:54,251 Each year we have at least 6911 03:55:54,251 --> 03:55:55,252 20 interns, so each year 6912 03:55:55,252 --> 03:55:55,820 we try to show the force 6913 03:55:55,820 --> 03:55:56,587 of what the future is 6914 03:55:56,587 --> 03:55:57,622 going to look like by way 6915 03:55:57,622 --> 03:55:58,255 of these individuals, so 6916 03:55:58,255 --> 03:55:59,123 thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 6917 03:55:59,123 --> 03:55:59,724 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6918 03:55:59,724 --> 03:56:00,391 thank you all for being 6919 03:56:00,391 --> 03:56:00,925 here today and being 6920 03:56:00,925 --> 03:56:01,125 interns for the vice 6921 03:56:01,125 --> 03:56:01,725 chair. 6922 03:56:01,725 --> 03:56:02,193 Ll right, moving 6923 03:56:02,193 --> 03:56:02,793 on with our list. 6924 03:56:02,793 --> 03:56:03,193 I've got is 5f next? 6925 03:56:03,193 --> 03:56:03,927 >> yes. 6926 03:56:03,927 --> 03:56:05,927 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 6927 03:56:07,764 --> 03:56:08,198 I'll entertain nationain a 6928 03:56:08,198 --> 03:56:08,899 motion. 6929 03:56:08,899 --> 03:56:10,899 Seconded by commissioner 6930 03:56:22,245 --> 03:56:22,778 lopez and then 6931 03:56:22,778 --> 03:56:23,713 commissioner regalado? 6932 03:56:23,713 --> 03:56:24,246 >> Raquel Regalado: point 6933 03:56:24,246 --> 03:56:25,114 of privilege, I just want 6934 03:56:25,114 --> 03:56:25,647 to make sure that the 6935 03:56:25,647 --> 03:56:26,148 attorneys had that vote 6936 03:56:26,148 --> 03:56:26,782 for also 11 a 24. 6937 03:56:26,782 --> 03:56:27,820 The two of them went 6938 03:56:27,820 --> 03:56:27,549 together. 6939 03:56:27,549 --> 03:56:28,217 Don't know if 6940 03:56:28,217 --> 03:56:28,417 they read it they said 6941 03:56:28,417 --> 03:56:30,417 that. 6942 03:56:43,300 --> 03:56:43,631 That's why we pooled it so 6943 03:56:43,631 --> 03:56:44,599 it could go together. 6944 03:56:44,599 --> 03:56:45,499 >> we did not, but I mean, 6945 03:56:45,499 --> 03:56:45,933 we could do it now at the 6946 03:56:45,933 --> 03:56:46,667 chairs discretion. 6947 03:56:46,667 --> 03:56:47,468 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 6948 03:56:47,468 --> 03:56:48,102 we'll take it in a second 6949 03:56:48,102 --> 03:56:48,669 because I already have a 6950 03:56:48,669 --> 03:56:49,470 motion and second on 5f. 6951 03:56:49,470 --> 03:56:50,570 You are recognized, 6952 03:56:50,570 --> 03:56:51,271 regalado. 6953 03:56:51,271 --> 03:56:52,390 >> Raquel Regalado: go to 6954 03:56:52,390 --> 03:56:53,400 5f and come back. 6955 03:56:53,400 --> 03:56:53,674 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 6956 03:56:53,674 --> 03:56:56,674 already have a motion and 6957 03:57:09,880 --> 03:57:10,189 a second, so. 6958 03:57:10,189 --> 03:57:10,823 >> Raquel Regalado: so on 6959 03:57:10,823 --> 03:57:11,423 5f, I just want to mention 6960 03:57:11,423 --> 03:57:12,191 something to the board 6961 03:57:12,191 --> 03:57:12,424 just to give you some 6962 03:57:12,424 --> 03:57:12,892 numbers. 6963 03:57:12,892 --> 03:57:16,492 We have a lot of bond 6964 03:57:28,339 --> 03:57:28,906 items that were added to 6965 03:57:28,906 --> 03:57:29,774 this agenda and I want to 6966 03:57:29,774 --> 03:57:30,341 speak a little bit later 6967 03:57:30,341 --> 03:57:30,941 specifically about the 6968 03:57:30,941 --> 03:57:31,475 ports one, but just to 6969 03:57:31,475 --> 03:57:32,376 give you an idea on the 6970 03:57:32,376 --> 03:57:33,100 number, if you combine all 6971 03:57:33,100 --> 03:57:33,511 these items, you get in 6972 03:57:33,511 --> 03:57:35,911 this agenda alone we're 6973 03:58:00,235 --> 03:58:00,869 drawing down or 6974 03:58:00,869 --> 03:58:01,703 authorizing $1.7 billion. 6975 03:58:01,703 --> 03:58:02,371 We have 5p that is the 6976 03:58:02,371 --> 03:58:03,204 transit for 35 million. 6977 03:58:03,204 --> 03:58:03,739 We have 5f, 38 million for 6978 03:58:03,739 --> 03:58:04,106 capital that we're 6979 03:58:04,106 --> 03:58:04,773 discussing now. 6980 03:58:04,773 --> 03:58:05,406 We have 5g 35 million for 6981 03:58:05,406 --> 03:58:06,441 general obligation. 6982 03:58:06,441 --> 03:58:06,941 We have public facilities 6983 03:58:06,941 --> 03:58:07,776 and 5h, 275 million. 6984 03:58:07,776 --> 03:58:08,643 We have 5I, which is the 6985 03:58:08,643 --> 03:58:09,100 one I'm most interested 6986 03:58:09,100 --> 03:58:09,811 in, 700 million. 6987 03:58:09,811 --> 03:58:10,345 We have 5j, 480 million. 6988 03:58:10,345 --> 03:58:12,745 And the total is 2.1 6989 03:58:20,554 --> 03:58:21,222 billion, but then you back 6990 03:58:21,222 --> 03:58:22,890 out what we are paying 6991 03:58:22,890 --> 03:58:22,556 down for debt that we 6992 03:58:22,556 --> 03:58:23,257 already issued. 6993 03:58:23,257 --> 03:58:23,824 This particular one, it's 6994 03:58:23,824 --> 03:58:24,591 a little concerning 6995 03:58:24,591 --> 03:58:27,127 because this is the one 6996 03:58:27,127 --> 03:58:27,728 that functions a little 6997 03:58:27,728 --> 03:58:28,328 bit like a credit card, 6998 03:58:28,328 --> 03:58:29,696 and I just want everyone 6999 03:58:29,696 --> 03:58:30,330 to understand that a, 7000 03:58:30,330 --> 03:58:33,330 we're drawing down at a 7001 03:58:42,508 --> 03:58:43,750 time where interest rates 7002 03:58:43,750 --> 03:58:43,675 are very high. 7003 03:58:43,675 --> 03:58:44,442 B, we can continue to the 7004 03:58:44,442 --> 03:58:44,910 way we've been doing it 7005 03:58:44,910 --> 03:58:45,411 with the short-term 7006 03:58:45,411 --> 03:58:45,978 financing. 7007 03:58:45,978 --> 03:58:46,645 We don't know what's going 7008 03:58:46,645 --> 03:58:47,446 to happen with property 7009 03:58:47,446 --> 03:58:48,513 taxes and all of this 7010 03:58:48,513 --> 03:58:48,980 impacts our debt 7011 03:58:48,980 --> 03:58:49,480 financing, so debt 7012 03:58:49,480 --> 03:58:51,480 financing goes up. 7013 03:58:57,922 --> 03:58:58,856 This is a lot of drawdown. 7014 03:58:58,856 --> 03:58:59,824 You know, everybody wants 7015 03:58:59,824 --> 03:59:00,557 to be a fiscal 7016 03:59:00,557 --> 03:59:01,580 conservative. 7017 03:59:01,580 --> 03:59:01,626 I'm not against some of 7018 03:59:01,626 --> 03:59:05,826 these, but it is a lot of 7019 03:59:13,137 --> 03:59:13,471 money that we're drawing 7020 03:59:13,471 --> 03:59:13,905 down. 7021 03:59:13,905 --> 03:59:14,205 Looked at the 7022 03:59:14,205 --> 03:59:15,600 programming. 7023 03:59:15,600 --> 03:59:15,539 Some of it is good, some 7024 03:59:15,539 --> 03:59:16,208 of it when we talk about 7025 03:59:16,208 --> 03:59:17,800 the ports, I disagree with 7026 03:59:17,800 --> 03:59:17,642 you given everything 7027 03:59:17,642 --> 03:59:18,176 that's happening there, 7028 03:59:18,176 --> 03:59:19,100 but I think we should all 7029 03:59:19,100 --> 03:59:21,790 be very mindful of the 7030 03:59:21,790 --> 03:59:21,679 impact that this amount of 7031 03:59:21,679 --> 03:59:22,347 drawdown is going to have 7032 03:59:22,347 --> 03:59:22,947 on next year's budget 7033 03:59:22,947 --> 03:59:25,347 specifically on the debt 7034 03:59:28,153 --> 03:59:28,620 financing aspect and what 7035 03:59:28,620 --> 03:59:29,221 we're paying. 7036 03:59:29,221 --> 03:59:29,855 We are pushing this out 30 7037 03:59:29,855 --> 03:59:33,455 years and in many cases we 7038 03:59:38,297 --> 03:59:38,931 are paying over a 6%. 7039 03:59:38,931 --> 03:59:39,298 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7040 03:59:39,298 --> 03:59:39,798 all right. 7041 03:59:39,798 --> 03:59:40,499 MADAME Mayor? 7042 03:59:40,499 --> 03:59:40,766 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 7043 03:59:40,766 --> 03:59:41,599 yes. 7044 03:59:41,599 --> 03:59:42,670 Thank you, MR. Chair. 7045 03:59:42,670 --> 03:59:42,567 I just want to say I 7046 03:59:42,567 --> 03:59:43,268 utilize my prerogative 7047 03:59:43,268 --> 03:59:46,268 under the charter to put 7048 03:59:46,739 --> 03:59:47,239 in item on the agenda 7049 03:59:47,239 --> 03:59:47,873 today that actually 7050 03:59:47,873 --> 03:59:49,800 addresses this very issue, 7051 03:59:49,800 --> 03:59:49,475 but because it wasn't 7052 03:59:49,475 --> 03:59:51,475 pooled by any 7053 03:59:52,911 --> 03:59:53,912 commissioner, it's not on 7054 03:59:53,912 --> 03:59:54,179 any of your discussion 7055 03:59:54,179 --> 03:59:56,179 sections. 7056 04:00:09,862 --> 04:00:10,630 I would like to highlight 7057 04:00:10,630 --> 04:00:11,264 for you what we've been 7058 04:00:11,264 --> 04:00:12,164 able to do with our credit 7059 04:00:12,164 --> 04:00:12,398 rating and bonds in the 7060 04:00:12,398 --> 04:00:12,932 county. 7061 04:00:12,932 --> 04:00:13,699 Since I've become mayor. 7062 04:00:13,699 --> 04:00:14,467 I'm extremely proud of 7063 04:00:14,467 --> 04:00:15,200 this fact and that's why I 7064 04:00:15,200 --> 04:00:16,236 put together the report 7065 04:00:16,236 --> 04:00:19,236 for you and it underscores 7066 04:00:21,708 --> 04:00:22,475 our strong financial 7067 04:00:22,475 --> 04:00:22,976 decision, policy 7068 04:00:22,976 --> 04:00:23,710 effectiveness, and 7069 04:00:23,710 --> 04:00:23,943 transparent governance 7070 04:00:23,943 --> 04:00:24,510 profile. 7071 04:00:24,510 --> 04:00:25,244 N fact, we have 7072 04:00:25,244 --> 04:00:25,979 saved as of the last count 7073 04:00:25,979 --> 04:00:26,679 $800 million of taxpayer 7074 04:00:26,679 --> 04:00:29,679 money because we have been 7075 04:00:52,473 --> 04:00:53,140 able to renegotiate 13 7076 04:00:53,140 --> 04:00:53,974 credit rating upgrades and 7077 04:00:53,974 --> 04:00:54,775 we have consistently 7078 04:00:54,775 --> 04:00:55,509 strong across multiple 7079 04:00:55,509 --> 04:00:55,977 credits from the national 7080 04:00:55,977 --> 04:00:56,844 rating agency. 7081 04:00:56,844 --> 04:00:57,378 Obviously, when they give 7082 04:00:57,378 --> 04:00:58,120 us those ratings and we 7083 04:00:58,120 --> 04:00:59,130 are able to negotiate our 7084 04:00:59,130 --> 04:00:59,580 bonds favorably, that's 7085 04:00:59,580 --> 04:01:00,480 because they look at our 7086 04:01:00,480 --> 04:01:00,748 policies and they feel 7087 04:01:00,748 --> 04:01:01,515 confident. 7088 04:01:01,515 --> 04:01:02,149 I just wanted to let you 7089 04:01:02,149 --> 04:01:02,750 know that yes, of course 7090 04:01:02,750 --> 04:01:03,617 we have to be mindful of 7091 04:01:03,617 --> 04:01:04,518 how much money we borrow. 7092 04:01:04,518 --> 04:01:07,255 We also know that if tax 7093 04:01:07,255 --> 04:01:07,922 reform passes that will 7094 04:01:07,922 --> 04:01:08,756 compromise our ability, so 7095 04:01:08,756 --> 04:01:09,357 that is something to be 7096 04:01:09,357 --> 04:01:10,291 mindful of looking ahead, 7097 04:01:10,291 --> 04:01:10,958 but we have one of the 7098 04:01:10,958 --> 04:01:11,792 strongest ratings anywhere 7099 04:01:11,792 --> 04:01:12,493 in the country, so I think 7100 04:01:12,493 --> 04:01:13,940 we should be very proud of 7101 04:01:13,940 --> 04:01:16,940 that and because it has 7102 04:01:19,934 --> 04:01:20,501 not been an official 7103 04:01:20,501 --> 04:01:21,236 regular report to the 7104 04:01:21,236 --> 04:01:21,536 board, I commend to you 7105 04:01:21,536 --> 04:01:22,360 item 2b 14. 7106 04:01:22,360 --> 04:01:22,670 Please look at it. 7107 04:01:22,670 --> 04:01:23,504 We have our bond leader, 7108 04:01:23,504 --> 04:01:23,705 alyssa would, with us 7109 04:01:23,705 --> 04:01:25,705 here. 7110 04:01:32,580 --> 04:01:33,448 She has won the national 7111 04:01:33,448 --> 04:01:34,480 bond, I don't want to call 7112 04:01:34,480 --> 04:01:34,849 her council, the counsel 7113 04:01:34,849 --> 04:01:35,783 of the year and went to 7114 04:01:35,783 --> 04:01:36,252 washington, dc to receive 7115 04:01:36,252 --> 04:01:38,652 that prize last year. 7116 04:01:40,155 --> 04:01:40,656 We have very strong fiscal 7117 04:01:40,656 --> 04:01:41,590 -- in the county. 7118 04:01:41,590 --> 04:01:42,224 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7119 04:01:42,224 --> 04:01:42,991 we're good. 7120 04:01:42,991 --> 04:01:45,391 Clerk, these call the 7121 04:01:48,631 --> 04:01:49,231 roll. 7122 04:01:49,231 --> 04:01:49,564 >> commissioner lopez. 7123 04:01:49,564 --> 04:01:50,132 >> yes. 7124 04:01:50,132 --> 04:01:50,399 > commissioner 7125 04:01:50,399 --> 04:01:52,399 regalado. 7126 04:01:52,401 --> 04:01:52,767 >> Raquel Regalado: no on 7127 04:01:52,767 --> 04:01:53,769 this one. 7128 04:01:53,769 --> 04:01:55,337 >> commissioner steinberg. 7129 04:01:55,337 --> 04:01:57,337 Commissioner bastien. 7130 04:02:06,149 --> 04:02:06,583 Commissioner bermudez. 7131 04:02:06,583 --> 04:02:06,850 Commissioner cohen 7132 04:02:06,850 --> 04:02:07,784 higgins. 7133 04:02:07,784 --> 04:02:08,830 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 7134 04:02:08,830 --> 04:02:08,751 for. 7135 04:02:08,751 --> 04:02:09,752 >> commissioner gilbert. 7136 04:02:09,752 --> 04:02:10,119 >> Oliver Gilbert: yes on 7137 04:02:10,119 --> 04:02:12,119 this one. 7138 04:02:15,191 --> 04:02:15,758 >> commissioner gonzalez.. 7139 04:02:15,758 --> 04:02:16,660 Vice-CHAIRMAN Mcghee. 7140 04:02:16,660 --> 04:02:18,660 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 7141 04:02:29,807 --> 04:02:30,707 yes, not to this one. 7142 04:02:30,707 --> 04:02:31,341 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez. 7143 04:02:31,341 --> 04:02:31,607 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 7144 04:02:31,607 --> 04:02:31,875 vote yes. 7145 04:02:31,875 --> 04:02:32,776 All right. 7146 04:02:32,776 --> 04:02:33,476 5g and 5h, commissioner 7147 04:02:33,476 --> 04:02:33,910 regalado, you bifurcated 7148 04:02:33,910 --> 04:02:34,477 both of them. 7149 04:02:34,477 --> 04:02:35,378 I don't know if you want 7150 04:02:35,378 --> 04:02:37,778 to speak on them 7151 04:02:48,325 --> 04:02:48,859 separately. 7152 04:02:48,859 --> 04:02:49,493 I think it was you. 7153 04:02:49,493 --> 04:02:50,294 First I'll entertain a 7154 04:02:50,294 --> 04:02:51,280 motion on 5g and 5h. 7155 04:02:51,280 --> 04:02:51,661 Commissioner regalado, 7156 04:02:51,661 --> 04:02:52,196 you're recognized. 7157 04:02:52,196 --> 04:02:53,300 >> I'm fine. 7158 04:02:53,300 --> 04:02:53,864 I mean, I think the ad 7159 04:02:53,864 --> 04:02:54,531 valorem is the bigger 7160 04:02:54,531 --> 04:02:55,198 issue because of the 7161 04:02:55,198 --> 04:02:55,498 impact it has on the debt 7162 04:02:55,498 --> 04:02:57,498 service. 7163 04:03:11,215 --> 04:03:11,782 I think we're paying down 7164 04:03:11,782 --> 04:03:12,683 some of it and we are 7165 04:03:12,683 --> 04:03:13,384 still pulling down a lot, 7166 04:03:13,384 --> 04:03:14,151 but I looked over the list 7167 04:03:14,151 --> 04:03:14,618 and it's not agree just. 7168 04:03:14,618 --> 04:03:15,452 So happy to move it. 7169 04:03:15,452 --> 04:03:15,954 > it's been moved, it's 7170 04:03:15,954 --> 04:03:16,754 been seconded. 7171 04:03:16,754 --> 04:03:17,288 Clerk, please call the 7172 04:03:17,288 --> 04:03:20,288 roll on 5g and h. 7173 04:03:29,600 --> 04:03:30,101 >> commissioner 7174 04:03:30,101 --> 04:03:30,735 steinberg. 7175 04:03:30,735 --> 04:03:31,669 Commissioner bastien. 7176 04:03:31,669 --> 04:03:32,637 >> Marleine Bastien: yes. 7177 04:03:32,637 --> 04:03:33,104 >> commissioner cohen 7178 04:03:33,104 --> 04:03:33,771 higgins. 7179 04:03:33,771 --> 04:03:34,205 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 7180 04:03:34,205 --> 04:03:34,705 for. 7181 04:03:34,705 --> 04:03:35,606 >> senator garcia. 7182 04:03:35,606 --> 04:03:36,275 Commissioner gilbert. 7183 04:03:36,275 --> 04:03:37,142 Commissioner gonzalez. 7184 04:03:37,142 --> 04:03:38,110 >> Roberto Gonzalez: for. 7185 04:03:38,110 --> 04:03:38,977 >> commissioner lopez. 7186 04:03:38,977 --> 04:03:39,444 >> Vicki Lopez: yes. 7187 04:03:39,444 --> 04:03:40,145 CHAIRMAN Rodriquez. 7188 04:03:40,145 --> 04:03:40,412 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 7189 04:03:40,412 --> 04:03:41,146 vote yes. 7190 04:03:41,146 --> 04:03:44,146 I'll entertain a motion on 7191 04:03:45,216 --> 04:03:45,717 5l moved by commissioner 7192 04:03:45,717 --> 04:03:46,585 bastien seconded by 7193 04:03:46,585 --> 04:03:48,585 commissioner gilbert. 7194 04:03:52,591 --> 04:03:53,191 I have commissioners 7195 04:03:53,191 --> 04:03:53,825 bastien and orbis 7196 04:03:53,825 --> 04:03:54,325 bifurcating the item just 7197 04:03:54,325 --> 04:03:55,930 to vote no. 7198 04:03:55,930 --> 04:03:55,594 Clerk, please call the 7199 04:03:55,594 --> 04:03:57,463 roll. 7200 04:03:57,463 --> 04:03:59,463 >>. 7201 04:04:31,831 --> 04:04:31,998 [Roll call] Motion passes 7202 04:04:31,998 --> 04:04:32,599 7-5. 7203 04:04:32,599 --> 04:04:34,599 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7204 04:04:35,601 --> 04:04:35,768 I'll entertain a motion on 7205 04:04:35,768 --> 04:04:37,768 5I. 7206 04:04:41,675 --> 04:04:42,509 You want to bifurcate? 7207 04:04:42,509 --> 04:04:43,543 >> 5I was bifurcated. 7208 04:04:43,543 --> 04:04:43,876 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7209 04:04:43,876 --> 04:04:44,444 okay. 7210 04:04:44,444 --> 04:04:48,440 I didn't have it on my 7211 04:04:50,417 --> 04:04:51,118 list, but 5I. 7212 04:04:51,118 --> 04:04:53,820 We also need to go back 7213 04:04:53,820 --> 04:04:54,521 and take that other one? 7214 04:04:54,521 --> 04:04:57,521 Let's take that vote that 7215 04:05:24,651 --> 04:05:24,819 goes with what's the other 7216 04:05:24,819 --> 04:05:25,619 one? 7217 04:05:25,619 --> 04:05:25,820 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 11 7218 04:05:25,820 --> 04:05:26,687 a 24. 7219 04:05:26,687 --> 04:05:27,389 >> so it's been moved by 7220 04:05:27,389 --> 04:05:28,189 commissioner regalado, 7221 04:05:28,189 --> 04:05:28,423 seconded by commissioner 7222 04:05:28,423 --> 04:05:28,857 gilbert. 7223 04:05:28,857 --> 04:05:29,290 Is that a roll call? 7224 04:05:29,290 --> 04:05:29,858 No, right? 7225 04:05:29,858 --> 04:05:30,725 That's a voice vote. 7226 04:05:30,725 --> 04:05:31,590 All in favor say aye five 7227 04:05:31,590 --> 04:05:31,726 by saying aye. 7228 04:05:31,726 --> 04:05:32,260 All opposed, was 5I 7229 04:05:32,260 --> 04:05:32,526 bifurcated? 7230 04:05:32,526 --> 04:05:32,994 It was not bifurcated. 7231 04:05:32,994 --> 04:05:33,794 It already past. 7232 04:05:33,794 --> 04:05:34,361 >> I do not show it as 7233 04:05:34,361 --> 04:05:34,795 bifurcated, but the board 7234 04:05:34,795 --> 04:05:35,429 can discuss. 7235 04:05:35,429 --> 04:05:35,864 >> I'm going to vote no 7236 04:05:35,864 --> 04:05:36,731 and discuss it. 7237 04:05:36,731 --> 04:05:37,332 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7238 04:05:37,332 --> 04:05:38,166 the thing is already past, 7239 04:05:38,166 --> 04:05:41,166 so we need to reconsider 7240 04:05:41,936 --> 04:05:42,671 the whole. 7241 04:05:42,671 --> 04:05:43,471 We can discuss it, I think 7242 04:05:43,471 --> 04:05:44,105 you can change your vote 7243 04:05:44,105 --> 04:05:44,972 with the clerk, right? 7244 04:05:44,972 --> 04:05:45,640 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7245 04:05:45,640 --> 04:05:46,108 okay, so it is a public 7246 04:05:46,108 --> 04:05:47,760 hearing item. 7247 04:05:47,760 --> 04:05:47,676 If the board wishes to 7248 04:05:47,676 --> 04:05:48,243 reconsider it, it would 7249 04:05:48,243 --> 04:05:49,770 have to be notice. 7250 04:05:49,770 --> 04:05:49,845 we are past that item. 7251 04:05:49,845 --> 04:05:51,845 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 7252 04:06:02,624 --> 04:06:03,525 we are not doing that. 7253 04:06:03,525 --> 04:06:04,260 Can you change your vote 7254 04:06:04,260 --> 04:06:04,926 with the clerk? 7255 04:06:04,926 --> 04:06:05,126 >> she can change her 7256 04:06:05,126 --> 04:06:05,594 vote. 7257 04:06:05,594 --> 04:06:06,528 What I would suggest 7258 04:06:06,528 --> 04:06:07,960 though is because we have 7259 04:06:07,960 --> 04:06:07,730 moved on we would have to 7260 04:06:07,730 --> 04:06:08,497 waive the rules to allow 7261 04:06:08,497 --> 04:06:12,970 her to change her vote and 7262 04:06:14,470 --> 04:06:15,237 record it as a no. 7263 04:06:15,237 --> 04:06:15,737 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 7264 04:06:15,737 --> 04:06:16,606 we could do that. 7265 04:06:16,606 --> 04:06:17,730 Are we okay with that for 7266 04:06:17,730 --> 04:06:18,700 purposes of the vote? 7267 04:06:18,700 --> 04:06:18,307 >> I want to discuss it. 7268 04:06:18,307 --> 04:06:18,708 I pulled it. 7269 04:06:18,708 --> 04:06:19,800 I don't know what 7270 04:06:19,800 --> 04:06:19,208 happened. 7271 04:06:19,208 --> 04:06:19,508 T's on my 7272 04:06:19,508 --> 04:06:21,508 list. 7273 04:06:31,554 --> 04:06:32,421 I even mentioned itt with 7274 04:06:32,421 --> 04:06:33,322 the port director that it 7275 04:06:33,322 --> 04:06:33,889 was on here, so I don't 7276 04:06:33,889 --> 04:06:34,123 know where the disconnect 7277 04:06:34,123 --> 04:06:34,724 is, but. 7278 04:06:34,724 --> 04:06:35,157 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7279 04:06:35,157 --> 04:06:35,926 I'm not doubting it. 7280 04:06:35,926 --> 04:06:36,560 I'm just not opening 7281 04:06:36,560 --> 04:06:37,427 public hearing because 7282 04:06:37,427 --> 04:06:37,661 some folks MAY have left 7283 04:06:37,661 --> 04:06:38,428 already. 7284 04:06:38,428 --> 04:06:38,995 >> but we don't have to 7285 04:06:38,995 --> 04:06:39,662 open public hearing -- 7286 04:06:39,662 --> 04:06:40,430 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7287 04:06:40,430 --> 04:06:40,997 she can still discuss it 7288 04:06:40,997 --> 04:06:41,464 without me opening up 7289 04:06:41,464 --> 04:06:41,798 public hearing? 7290 04:06:41,798 --> 04:06:42,531 >> yes. 7291 04:06:42,531 --> 04:06:43,990 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7292 04:06:43,990 --> 04:06:43,700 you want to do a motion on 7293 04:06:43,700 --> 04:06:44,500 five a so you can record 7294 04:06:44,500 --> 04:06:45,468 your no vote? 7295 04:06:45,468 --> 04:06:46,300 All in favorite of that 7296 04:06:46,300 --> 04:06:48,403 signify by saying aye. 7297 04:06:58,215 --> 04:06:58,749 All opposed, nay. Now do 7298 04:06:58,749 --> 04:06:59,717 I need the item again? 7299 04:06:59,717 --> 04:07:02,717 Now you can discuss 5I. 7300 04:07:18,970 --> 04:07:19,704 >> all right. 7301 04:07:19,704 --> 04:07:20,471 5I, I just want to mention 7302 04:07:20,471 --> 04:07:20,838 a few things on 5I that I 7303 04:07:20,838 --> 04:07:21,505 find concerning. 7304 04:07:21,505 --> 04:07:22,206 I understand we are 7305 04:07:22,206 --> 04:07:23,730 retiring the outstanding. 7306 04:07:23,730 --> 04:07:23,640 I have no issue with the 7307 04:07:23,640 --> 04:07:24,241 200 million for that. 7308 04:07:24,241 --> 04:07:25,109 This is a common vehicle 7309 04:07:25,109 --> 04:07:25,609 and the interest rate is 7310 04:07:25,609 --> 04:07:26,177 fine. 7311 04:07:26,177 --> 04:07:29,177 My concern with this item, 7312 04:07:35,186 --> 04:07:35,753 which is 700 in total, is 7313 04:07:35,753 --> 04:07:36,321 the 380 million for a 7314 04:07:36,321 --> 04:07:37,289 series of projects. 7315 04:07:37,289 --> 04:07:37,922 The projects, unlike many 7316 04:07:37,922 --> 04:07:38,390 of the other items, do not 7317 04:07:38,390 --> 04:07:40,390 have the amounts. 7318 04:07:57,109 --> 04:07:57,776 If you go through the item 7319 04:07:57,776 --> 04:07:58,510 in exhibit a in particular 7320 04:07:58,510 --> 04:07:58,810 you can figure out what 7321 04:07:58,810 --> 04:07:59,544 they are. 7322 04:07:59,544 --> 04:07:59,878 Some of them we've heard 7323 04:07:59,878 --> 04:08:00,646 about before. 7324 04:08:00,646 --> 04:08:01,513 For example, the new birth 7325 04:08:01,513 --> 04:08:01,780 and 10 terminal t 7326 04:08:01,780 --> 04:08:02,547 expansion. 7327 04:08:02,547 --> 04:08:03,115 Rail and gate expansion, 7328 04:08:03,115 --> 04:08:03,715 the gantry cranes, which 7329 04:08:03,715 --> 04:08:04,215 we've been asking for a 7330 04:08:04,215 --> 04:08:05,160 very long time. 7331 04:08:05,160 --> 04:08:08,616 What is the cost of those? 7332 04:08:26,272 --> 04:08:26,772 There is no enumeration on 7333 04:08:26,772 --> 04:08:27,307 that. 7334 04:08:27,307 --> 04:08:27,874 A lot of these items when 7335 04:08:27,874 --> 04:08:28,441 I went and I compared it 7336 04:08:28,441 --> 04:08:29,275 to the capital plan and 7337 04:08:29,275 --> 04:08:29,709 the other report items, 7338 04:08:29,709 --> 04:08:30,409 there were numbers. 7339 04:08:30,409 --> 04:08:31,310 I think the reason why 7340 04:08:31,310 --> 04:08:32,110 there's no numbers in this 7341 04:08:32,110 --> 04:08:32,878 item is because this item 7342 04:08:32,878 --> 04:08:33,679 also includes the fuel 7343 04:08:33,679 --> 04:08:34,280 facility property. 7344 04:08:34,280 --> 04:08:34,780 So in this item, we are 7345 04:08:34,780 --> 04:08:35,470 drawing down for that 7346 04:08:35,470 --> 04:08:35,481 purchase. 7347 04:08:35,481 --> 04:08:36,490 We are currently in 7348 04:08:36,490 --> 04:08:36,516 litigation for a taking on 7349 04:08:36,516 --> 04:08:37,500 that and I don't 7350 04:08:37,500 --> 04:08:37,884 understand why we're 7351 04:08:37,884 --> 04:08:38,451 drawing down without 7352 04:08:38,451 --> 04:08:39,850 specificity because we 7353 04:08:39,850 --> 04:08:39,285 cannot put a number on 7354 04:08:39,285 --> 04:08:41,285 that. 7355 04:08:43,890 --> 04:08:44,590 I think that given the 7356 04:08:44,590 --> 04:08:45,391 litigation and everything 7357 04:08:45,391 --> 04:08:46,126 that's happening at the 7358 04:08:46,126 --> 04:08:46,893 port, we should continue 7359 04:08:46,893 --> 04:08:47,527 financing with commercial 7360 04:08:47,527 --> 04:08:48,395 paper and wait for us to 7361 04:08:48,395 --> 04:08:48,995 have an actual number 7362 04:08:48,995 --> 04:08:51,395 before we draw down. 7363 04:08:52,432 --> 04:08:53,660 Specifically in terms of 7364 04:08:53,660 --> 04:08:53,633 the current market 7365 04:08:53,633 --> 04:08:55,633 conditions, you know, 7366 04:09:04,311 --> 04:09:04,544 right now muniz have 7367 04:09:04,544 --> 04:09:05,311 flooded. 7368 04:09:05,311 --> 04:09:05,946 While I agree with the 7369 04:09:05,946 --> 04:09:06,380 mayor that we have been 7370 04:09:06,380 --> 04:09:08,780 able to save by 7371 04:09:14,354 --> 04:09:15,221 restructuring our debt as 7372 04:09:15,221 --> 04:09:15,890 in the case of the transit 7373 04:09:15,890 --> 04:09:16,724 item, I do not believe 7374 04:09:16,724 --> 04:09:16,991 that this is the case with 7375 04:09:16,991 --> 04:09:17,725 this item. 7376 04:09:17,725 --> 04:09:18,325 This item is being done 7377 04:09:18,325 --> 04:09:21,325 this way so that the 7378 04:09:37,178 --> 04:09:37,745 county has access to 7379 04:09:37,745 --> 04:09:38,479 funding that this board 7380 04:09:38,479 --> 04:09:39,213 then has to approve and I 7381 04:09:39,213 --> 04:09:39,881 think that we should wait 7382 04:09:39,881 --> 04:09:40,682 for this board to approve 7383 04:09:40,682 --> 04:09:41,249 that because we are 7384 04:09:41,249 --> 04:09:41,682 putting the cart in front 7385 04:09:41,682 --> 04:09:42,183 of the horse. 7386 04:09:42,183 --> 04:09:42,483 E have a 7387 04:09:42,483 --> 04:09:43,251 litigation. 7388 04:09:43,251 --> 04:09:43,817 We haven't decided on a 7389 04:09:43,817 --> 04:09:44,652 price and now we are 7390 04:09:44,652 --> 04:09:45,252 drawing down money just to 7391 04:09:45,252 --> 04:09:45,853 have it there at a very 7392 04:09:45,853 --> 04:09:46,688 high cost to the county. 7393 04:09:46,688 --> 04:09:50,288 And the fact that the port 7394 04:10:10,479 --> 04:10:11,460 is an enterprise fund 7395 04:10:11,460 --> 04:10:11,780 doesn't remediate the 7396 04:10:11,780 --> 04:10:12,647 issue that we're approving 7397 04:10:12,647 --> 04:10:13,482 a bond that does not have 7398 04:10:13,482 --> 04:10:13,748 numbers attached to these 7399 04:10:13,748 --> 04:10:14,249 projects. 7400 04:10:14,249 --> 04:10:15,830 it is very fungible. 7401 04:10:15,830 --> 04:10:16,520 And I don't understand why 7402 04:10:16,520 --> 04:10:16,285 we are doing this at this 7403 04:10:16,285 --> 04:10:16,652 moment. 7404 04:10:16,652 --> 04:10:17,553 This can wait. 7405 04:10:17,553 --> 04:10:18,200 We can continue having 7406 04:10:18,200 --> 04:10:18,554 commercial paper. 7407 04:10:18,554 --> 04:10:19,155 The port leadership is 7408 04:10:19,155 --> 04:10:20,890 currently in position. 7409 04:10:20,890 --> 04:10:20,689 Today, we hired a new 7410 04:10:20,689 --> 04:10:21,323 director, so why are we 7411 04:10:21,323 --> 04:10:22,224 doing this without waiting 7412 04:10:22,224 --> 04:10:22,824 for that director to 7413 04:10:22,824 --> 04:10:23,458 determine what exactly 7414 04:10:23,458 --> 04:10:23,692 needs to be done at the 7415 04:10:23,692 --> 04:10:24,226 port? 7416 04:10:24,226 --> 04:10:24,726 I think part of the 7417 04:10:24,726 --> 04:10:25,394 problem here is we 7418 04:10:25,394 --> 04:10:26,262 continue to run port miami 7419 04:10:26,262 --> 04:10:26,762 as if there's no problems 7420 04:10:26,762 --> 04:10:27,196 even though there's a 7421 04:10:27,196 --> 04:10:27,297 million problems. 7422 04:10:27,297 --> 04:10:27,930 Ne 7423 04:10:27,930 --> 04:10:28,798 last issue I want to point 7424 04:10:28,798 --> 04:10:29,332 out here is included in 7425 04:10:29,332 --> 04:10:30,199 this list of issues of 7426 04:10:30,199 --> 04:10:30,733 projects that we're going 7427 04:10:30,733 --> 04:10:31,233 to fund is the connection 7428 04:10:31,233 --> 04:10:33,633 to, you know, the 7429 04:10:34,637 --> 04:10:37,637 connection that we did at 7430 04:10:45,514 --> 04:10:46,160 the port, the shore power 7431 04:10:46,160 --> 04:10:46,583 and I want some 7432 04:10:46,583 --> 04:10:47,584 information from our 7433 04:10:47,584 --> 04:10:47,784 attorneys regarding short 7434 04:10:47,784 --> 04:10:48,618 power. 7435 04:10:48,618 --> 04:10:49,218 I don't understand why we 7436 04:10:49,218 --> 04:10:51,618 are still talking about 7437 04:10:54,157 --> 04:10:54,757 short power. 7438 04:10:54,757 --> 04:10:55,391 Brian -- we now have to 7439 04:10:55,391 --> 04:10:56,126 look at everything that 7440 04:10:56,126 --> 04:10:56,359 has to do with green 7441 04:10:56,359 --> 04:10:57,127 energy. 7442 04:10:57,127 --> 04:11:00,127 Shore power was way more 7443 04:11:28,960 --> 04:11:29,794 expensive than what we 7444 04:11:29,794 --> 04:11:30,427 were originally told. 7445 04:11:30,427 --> 04:11:31,362 Now we are drawing down 7446 04:11:31,362 --> 04:11:31,962 money to extend a program 7447 04:11:31,962 --> 04:11:32,896 that I think we're going 7448 04:11:32,896 --> 04:11:33,430 to be prohibited from 7449 04:11:33,430 --> 04:11:33,897 doing at the port because 7450 04:11:33,897 --> 04:11:34,531 of its high cost. 7451 04:11:34,531 --> 04:11:35,365 Short power has ended up 7452 04:11:35,365 --> 04:11:36,340 being more expensive to 7453 04:11:36,340 --> 04:11:36,868 the cruise lines than the 7454 04:11:36,868 --> 04:11:37,501 other alternatives and I 7455 04:11:37,501 --> 04:11:38,336 don't think that we should 7456 04:11:38,336 --> 04:11:39,700 draw down for short power. 7457 04:11:39,700 --> 04:11:39,971 We need actual numbers on 7458 04:11:39,971 --> 04:11:40,471 what short power has cost. 7459 04:11:40,471 --> 04:11:41,372 If this was electric 7460 04:11:41,372 --> 04:11:41,839 buses, everyone would be 7461 04:11:41,839 --> 04:11:42,306 hair on fire. 7462 04:11:42,306 --> 04:11:42,573 Short power is no 7463 04:11:42,573 --> 04:11:44,573 different. 7464 04:11:55,353 --> 04:11:56,880 So you know, we can't keep 7465 04:11:56,880 --> 04:11:57,550 making the same mistake. 7466 04:11:57,550 --> 04:11:57,756 The only thing I asked the 7467 04:11:57,756 --> 04:11:58,223 administration is to make 7468 04:11:58,223 --> 04:11:59,124 different mistakes. 7469 04:11:59,124 --> 04:12:00,158 On this particular one we 7470 04:12:00,158 --> 04:12:00,725 know that short power is 7471 04:12:00,725 --> 04:12:00,959 problematic, so why is it 7472 04:12:00,959 --> 04:12:01,659 on here? 7473 04:12:01,659 --> 04:12:02,294 If the attorneys could 7474 04:12:02,294 --> 04:12:03,940 speak a little bit as two 7475 04:12:03,940 --> 04:12:03,695 short power and if we've 7476 04:12:03,695 --> 04:12:04,295 made a determination as to 7477 04:12:04,295 --> 04:12:04,829 its applicability given 7478 04:12:04,829 --> 04:12:05,296 the state law that 7479 04:12:05,296 --> 04:12:05,964 recently asked us to 7480 04:12:05,964 --> 04:12:06,832 scrutinize these projects 7481 04:12:06,832 --> 04:12:07,366 in terms of their return 7482 04:12:07,366 --> 04:12:08,233 on investment. 7483 04:12:08,233 --> 04:12:08,500 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7484 04:12:08,500 --> 04:12:08,834 thank you. 7485 04:12:08,834 --> 04:12:09,100 All right. 7486 04:12:09,100 --> 04:12:09,734 5o. 7487 04:12:09,734 --> 04:12:10,235 >> he has to respond. 7488 04:12:10,235 --> 04:12:10,702 We are waiting for the 7489 04:12:10,702 --> 04:12:11,469 response there. 7490 04:12:11,469 --> 04:12:12,103 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7491 04:12:12,103 --> 04:12:12,871 what was the question? 7492 04:12:12,871 --> 04:12:14,706 > county attorney? 7493 04:12:14,706 --> 04:12:15,306 On short power? 7494 04:12:15,306 --> 04:12:17,306 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7495 04:12:20,212 --> 04:12:20,579 you can respond and then, 7496 04:12:20,579 --> 04:12:22,579 yeah. 7497 04:12:23,915 --> 04:12:27,515 Speed as to the net than 7498 04:12:38,531 --> 04:12:39,165 that zero legislation is 7499 04:12:39,165 --> 04:12:39,999 actions of the county 7500 04:12:39,999 --> 04:12:40,533 government or state 7501 04:12:40,533 --> 04:12:41,133 governments are 7502 04:12:41,133 --> 04:12:41,967 problematic if it's solely 7503 04:12:41,967 --> 04:12:42,468 in advance of the net zero 7504 04:12:42,468 --> 04:12:43,350 policy. 7505 04:12:43,350 --> 04:12:43,602 If there are other reasons 7506 04:12:43,602 --> 04:12:44,236 or considerations, even 7507 04:12:44,236 --> 04:12:47,236 reasons that does not make 7508 04:12:52,344 --> 04:12:52,645 the actions or the 7509 04:12:52,645 --> 04:12:53,346 policies -- 7510 04:12:53,346 --> 04:12:54,380 >> what about the 7511 04:12:54,380 --> 04:12:55,140 requirement of return on 7512 04:12:55,140 --> 04:12:55,348 investments in terms of 7513 04:12:55,348 --> 04:12:56,160 the cost? 7514 04:12:56,160 --> 04:12:56,449 >> we'll get back to you 7515 04:12:56,449 --> 04:12:58,449 on that. 7516 04:13:05,291 --> 04:13:06,260 >> thank you. 7517 04:13:06,260 --> 04:13:06,427 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7518 04:13:06,427 --> 04:13:07,394 all right. 7519 04:13:07,394 --> 04:13:07,828 I'll entertain a motion on 7520 04:13:07,828 --> 04:13:09,828 5 capital zero? 7521 04:13:10,630 --> 04:13:10,797 It's been motioned by 7522 04:13:10,797 --> 04:13:11,640 cohen higgins seconded by 7523 04:13:11,640 --> 04:13:13,640 garcia. 7524 04:13:15,535 --> 04:13:16,360 >> it's in my district. 7525 04:13:16,360 --> 04:13:16,603 I wanted to state 7526 04:13:16,603 --> 04:13:19,300 something on the record. 7527 04:13:21,740 --> 04:13:21,575 I had deferred at this 7528 04:13:21,575 --> 04:13:22,750 item twice and I 7529 04:13:22,750 --> 04:13:22,676 understand is 7530 04:13:22,676 --> 04:13:24,676 quasijudicial, but that's 7531 04:13:32,352 --> 04:13:33,353 because it's an 7532 04:13:33,353 --> 04:13:33,654 administrative item, as I 7533 04:13:33,654 --> 04:13:34,354 understand. 7534 04:13:34,354 --> 04:13:34,955 I just wanted to ensure 7535 04:13:34,955 --> 04:13:35,522 that the residents that 7536 04:13:35,522 --> 04:13:36,570 live adjacent to this 7537 04:13:36,570 --> 04:13:38,457 property or parcel were 7538 04:13:43,731 --> 04:13:44,565 aware of what was coming 7539 04:13:44,565 --> 04:13:45,650 to their neighborhood and 7540 04:13:45,650 --> 04:13:45,599 that they had an 7541 04:13:45,599 --> 04:13:46,300 opportunity to express 7542 04:13:46,300 --> 04:13:46,968 their concerns. 7543 04:13:46,968 --> 04:13:47,602 I understand that the 7544 04:13:47,602 --> 04:13:48,502 administration has reached 7545 04:13:48,502 --> 04:13:48,970 out and notified them 7546 04:13:48,970 --> 04:13:50,970 because it's very 7547 04:13:58,513 --> 04:13:59,381 important for me to let 7548 04:13:59,381 --> 04:13:59,948 the constituents know when 7549 04:13:59,948 --> 04:14:00,448 a change like this is 7550 04:14:00,448 --> 04:14:00,848 coming to their 7551 04:14:00,848 --> 04:14:01,490 neighborhood. 7552 04:14:01,490 --> 04:14:01,616 Ith that, 7553 04:14:01,616 --> 04:14:02,450 thank you, MR. Chair. 7554 04:14:02,450 --> 04:14:02,684 I have no further comments 7555 04:14:02,684 --> 04:14:03,551 on this. 7556 04:14:03,551 --> 04:14:04,285 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7557 04:14:04,285 --> 04:14:04,985 thank you, commissioner. 7558 04:14:04,985 --> 04:14:05,319 And commissioner garcia. 7559 04:14:05,319 --> 04:14:05,987 No? 7560 04:14:05,987 --> 04:14:08,987 Clerk, please -- are you 7561 04:14:14,662 --> 04:14:14,896 supportive, commissioner 7562 04:14:14,896 --> 04:14:15,763 orbis? 7563 04:14:15,763 --> 04:14:16,665 >> Natalie Milian Orbis: 7564 04:14:16,665 --> 04:14:17,299 I'm not really, but from 7565 04:14:17,299 --> 04:14:18,200 what I understand it's 7566 04:14:18,200 --> 04:14:20,600 quasijudicial, so we can't 7567 04:14:23,738 --> 04:14:24,239 -- I'm okay with it. 7568 04:14:24,239 --> 04:14:24,539 I'll be a no. 7569 04:14:24,539 --> 04:14:25,273 That's okay. 7570 04:14:25,273 --> 04:14:26,242 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7571 04:14:26,242 --> 04:14:28,642 ,please call the roll. 7572 04:14:35,284 --> 04:14:36,185 >> commissioner steinberg. 7573 04:14:36,185 --> 04:14:36,719 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7574 04:14:36,719 --> 04:14:37,653 it's been moved and 7575 04:14:37,653 --> 04:14:39,653 seconded, yes. 7576 04:14:48,598 --> 04:14:48,931 >>. 7577 04:14:48,931 --> 04:14:50,931 [Roll call]. 7578 04:15:17,194 --> 04:15:19,594 [Roll call] Motion fails 7579 04:15:28,372 --> 04:15:28,539 I'll entertain a motion on 7580 04:15:28,539 --> 04:15:29,339 5u. 7581 04:15:29,339 --> 04:15:29,906 Senator garcia, you are -- 7582 04:15:29,906 --> 04:15:30,374 okay, clerk, please call 7583 04:15:30,374 --> 04:15:30,641 the roll. 7584 04:15:30,641 --> 04:15:32,641 >>. 7585 04:16:01,390 --> 04:16:01,339 [Roll call]Motion passes 7586 04:16:01,339 --> 04:16:02,390 11-1. 7587 04:16:02,390 --> 04:16:02,907 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7588 04:16:02,907 --> 04:16:05,307 MR. MADAME attorney, is 7589 04:16:23,361 --> 04:16:23,862 that it for the public 7590 04:16:23,862 --> 04:16:24,195 hearing items? 7591 04:16:24,195 --> 04:16:24,896 >> yes. 7592 04:16:24,896 --> 04:16:25,496 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7593 04:16:25,496 --> 04:16:26,165 before we get into second 7594 04:16:26,165 --> 04:16:26,999 reading items, I'm going 7595 04:16:26,999 --> 04:16:27,500 to pull some from the item 7596 04:16:27,500 --> 04:16:28,660 reading list. 7597 04:16:28,660 --> 04:16:28,667 As I understand, some 7598 04:16:28,667 --> 04:16:29,635 folks are here for this. 7599 04:16:29,635 --> 04:16:30,169 I'm going to pull 11 a 14, 7600 04:16:30,169 --> 04:16:31,690 15, 16, 17, and 20, which 7601 04:16:31,690 --> 04:16:31,303 are the charter review 7602 04:16:31,303 --> 04:16:33,303 ballots. 7603 04:16:34,606 --> 04:16:34,940 And I have some pooling 7604 04:16:34,940 --> 04:16:35,640 commissioners. 7605 04:16:35,640 --> 04:16:39,240 I'm going to go ahead and 7606 04:17:05,671 --> 04:17:06,139 take them up one by one. 7607 04:17:06,139 --> 04:17:06,640 Regalado? 7608 04:17:06,640 --> 04:17:07,174 >> Raquel Regalado: 7609 04:17:07,174 --> 04:17:08,800 flipping through. 7610 04:17:08,800 --> 04:17:08,341 By the way, I have an 7611 04:17:08,341 --> 04:17:08,942 airport item. 7612 04:17:08,942 --> 04:17:13,142 I hope we can take it up. 7613 04:17:17,951 --> 04:17:18,819 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7614 04:17:18,819 --> 04:17:19,520 we are going to get to all 7615 04:17:19,520 --> 04:17:19,386 of them. 7616 04:17:19,386 --> 04:17:20,120 E are going to 7617 04:17:20,120 --> 04:17:20,520 get to kelly tractor even. 7618 04:17:20,520 --> 04:17:21,454 I promise. 7619 04:17:21,454 --> 04:17:23,454 >> Raquel Regalado: okay. 7620 04:17:23,756 --> 04:17:24,557 So this was 11 a 14. 7621 04:17:24,557 --> 04:17:25,158 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7622 04:17:25,158 --> 04:17:27,558 yes, it's a charter 7623 04:17:27,861 --> 04:17:28,862 review. 7624 04:17:28,862 --> 04:17:30,862 Ballot recommendations 7625 04:17:37,871 --> 04:17:38,839 from the task force. 7626 04:17:38,839 --> 04:17:39,406 >> Raquel Regalado: they 7627 04:17:39,406 --> 04:17:42,406 were added late, so it's 7628 04:17:50,417 --> 04:17:51,218 not on this one. 7629 04:17:51,218 --> 04:17:52,520 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 11 7630 04:17:52,520 --> 04:17:54,520 a 15, commissioner vice 7631 04:17:54,555 --> 04:17:55,522 CHAIRMAN, you are the one 7632 04:17:55,522 --> 04:17:57,292 pulling commissioner on 11 7633 04:17:57,292 --> 04:17:59,292 a 15. 7634 04:18:05,832 --> 04:18:06,635 You're recognized. 7635 04:18:06,635 --> 04:18:06,902 >> thank you, MR. 7636 04:18:06,902 --> 04:18:07,636 CHAIRMAN. 7637 04:18:07,636 --> 04:18:08,736 Just wanted to hear from 7638 04:18:08,736 --> 04:18:09,370 the sponsor what this item 7639 04:18:09,370 --> 04:18:11,370 seeks to do. 7640 04:18:12,707 --> 04:18:15,107 >> what this item seeks 7641 04:19:02,558 --> 04:19:02,725 to do. 7642 04:19:02,725 --> 04:19:03,125 No? 7643 04:19:03,125 --> 04:19:03,859 You go ahead. 7644 04:19:03,859 --> 04:19:04,660 >> MR. Vice chair, this is 7645 04:19:04,660 --> 04:19:05,940 one of the 7646 04:19:05,940 --> 04:19:05,694 recommendations. 7647 04:19:05,694 --> 04:19:06,629 Currently, the charter 7648 04:19:06,629 --> 04:19:07,130 provides that an 7649 04:19:07,130 --> 04:19:07,597 individual who wants to 7650 04:19:07,597 --> 04:19:08,164 run for district 7651 04:19:08,164 --> 04:19:08,865 commission seat has to 7652 04:19:08,865 --> 04:19:09,632 reside within the district 7653 04:19:09,632 --> 04:19:10,333 for at least six months 7654 04:19:10,333 --> 04:19:11,134 prior to the election. 7655 04:19:11,134 --> 04:19:11,668 This would increase the 7656 04:19:11,668 --> 04:19:12,268 requirement so an 7657 04:19:12,268 --> 04:19:13,136 individual would have to 7658 04:19:13,136 --> 04:19:13,803 reside within the district 7659 04:19:13,803 --> 04:19:14,670 for at least a year before 7660 04:19:14,670 --> 04:19:14,904 being eligible to run for 7661 04:19:14,904 --> 04:19:15,404 office. 7662 04:19:15,404 --> 04:19:16,673 >> vice CHAIRMAN? 7663 04:19:16,673 --> 04:19:17,207 >> thank you to the county 7664 04:19:17,207 --> 04:19:18,108 attorney for the answer. 7665 04:19:18,108 --> 04:19:18,708 My follow-up question is 7666 04:19:18,708 --> 04:19:19,509 is it the same in broward 7667 04:19:19,509 --> 04:19:20,210 county and palm beach or 7668 04:19:20,210 --> 04:19:20,844 do they have six months or 7669 04:19:20,844 --> 04:19:21,644 do they have a year and 7670 04:19:21,644 --> 04:19:22,211 how are we looking to the 7671 04:19:22,211 --> 04:19:22,545 south of us in monroe 7672 04:19:22,545 --> 04:19:23,313 county? 7673 04:19:23,313 --> 04:19:24,247 >> vice chair, I do not 7674 04:19:24,247 --> 04:19:24,513 have the answer to that 7675 04:19:24,513 --> 04:19:25,470 question. 7676 04:19:25,470 --> 04:19:25,548 I would have to do some 7677 04:19:25,548 --> 04:19:26,183 research, and I can do 7678 04:19:26,183 --> 04:19:26,917 that now while the 7679 04:19:26,917 --> 04:19:27,718 commission deliberates. 7680 04:19:27,718 --> 04:19:28,285 >> my next question is 7681 04:19:28,285 --> 04:19:29,252 also to will there be a 7682 04:19:29,252 --> 04:19:29,920 financial impact to the 7683 04:19:29,920 --> 04:19:32,920 county as it relates to 7684 04:19:33,490 --> 04:19:34,424 this particular item? 7685 04:19:34,424 --> 04:19:37,424 >> I'll leave it to the 7686 04:19:41,640 --> 04:19:43,640 administration to answer. 7687 04:19:55,879 --> 04:19:56,414 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: it 7688 04:19:56,414 --> 04:19:56,981 seems like they are 7689 04:19:56,981 --> 04:19:57,548 nodding their heads. 7690 04:19:57,548 --> 04:19:58,216 To you guys want to 7691 04:19:58,216 --> 04:19:58,583 actually acknowledge and 7692 04:19:58,583 --> 04:19:59,550 say no? 7693 04:19:59,550 --> 04:20:00,217 >> I know there was 7694 04:20:00,217 --> 04:20:00,718 substantial discussion 7695 04:20:00,718 --> 04:20:01,652 about all of this. 7696 04:20:01,652 --> 04:20:02,530 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7697 04:20:02,530 --> 04:20:02,319 come on up. 7698 04:20:02,319 --> 04:20:03,153 You're up. 7699 04:20:03,153 --> 04:20:03,520 We always love to have you 7700 04:20:03,520 --> 04:20:03,954 in our chamber. 7701 04:20:03,954 --> 04:20:05,954 Questions specific. 7702 04:20:07,591 --> 04:20:09,991 Shall this charter review 7703 04:20:15,199 --> 04:20:16,101 recommendation have a 7704 04:20:16,101 --> 04:20:16,335 fiscal impact on the 7705 04:20:16,335 --> 04:20:17,690 county? 7706 04:20:17,690 --> 04:20:18,103 >> I'm sorry, this is 7707 04:20:18,103 --> 04:20:20,103 about the qualifying 7708 04:20:48,701 --> 04:20:49,401 period? 7709 04:20:49,401 --> 04:20:50,202 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7710 04:20:50,202 --> 04:20:50,669 this is the qualifying 7711 04:20:50,669 --> 04:20:51,203 period. 7712 04:20:51,203 --> 04:20:51,904 >> yes, we did not 7713 04:20:51,904 --> 04:20:52,738 specifically discuss that 7714 04:20:52,738 --> 04:20:53,572 at the charter review 7715 04:20:53,572 --> 04:20:53,972 process, but I don't 7716 04:20:53,972 --> 04:20:54,606 believe it would. 7717 04:20:54,606 --> 04:20:55,207 There's no additional 7718 04:20:55,207 --> 04:20:55,807 money to be spent whether 7719 04:20:55,807 --> 04:20:56,342 someone made this six 7720 04:20:56,342 --> 04:20:57,243 months or years before. 7721 04:20:57,243 --> 04:20:57,910 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7722 04:20:57,910 --> 04:20:58,277 you're still an attorney, 7723 04:20:58,277 --> 04:20:58,811 managed to 7724 04:20:58,811 --> 04:20:59,679 >> by the way for the 7725 04:20:59,679 --> 04:21:00,479 record, dennis here as the 7726 04:21:00,479 --> 04:21:01,130 chair of the charter of 7727 04:21:01,130 --> 04:21:01,513 the task force. 7728 04:21:01,513 --> 04:21:02,248 If I could just take a 7729 04:21:02,248 --> 04:21:02,915 second to thank of course 7730 04:21:02,915 --> 04:21:03,382 the mayor and all of you 7731 04:21:03,382 --> 04:21:03,949 for your support 7732 04:21:03,949 --> 04:21:06,349 throughout the process and 7733 04:21:09,856 --> 04:21:10,323 the sponsor commissioner 7734 04:21:10,323 --> 04:21:11,156 cohen higgins. 7735 04:21:11,156 --> 04:21:11,757 >> dennis, the next 7736 04:21:11,757 --> 04:21:12,658 question is do we know 7737 04:21:12,658 --> 04:21:13,292 what's happening to the 7738 04:21:13,292 --> 04:21:13,826 north of us, to the south 7739 04:21:13,826 --> 04:21:14,760 of us, and to the west? 7740 04:21:14,760 --> 04:21:16,329 Are other counties doing 7741 04:21:16,329 --> 04:21:18,729 this exact same thing? 7742 04:21:19,799 --> 04:21:19,999 Is it six months, is it a 7743 04:21:19,999 --> 04:21:20,800 year? 7744 04:21:20,800 --> 04:21:22,800 Where are we? 7745 04:21:26,440 --> 04:21:27,700 >> during our 7746 04:21:27,700 --> 04:21:27,908 deliberations, I don't 7747 04:21:27,908 --> 04:21:28,909 think we had information 7748 04:21:28,909 --> 04:21:30,909 specifically looking the 7749 04:21:42,155 --> 04:21:42,623 other counties to see what 7750 04:21:42,623 --> 04:21:43,256 they were doing. 7751 04:21:43,256 --> 04:21:44,240 This was an item brought 7752 04:21:44,240 --> 04:21:44,624 by one of the task force 7753 04:21:44,624 --> 04:21:45,292 members and we briefly 7754 04:21:45,292 --> 04:21:46,930 discussed the concept of 7755 04:21:46,930 --> 04:21:46,694 it being good to be in the 7756 04:21:46,694 --> 04:21:47,528 district for longer. 7757 04:21:47,528 --> 04:21:48,262 But there were other items 7758 04:21:48,262 --> 04:21:49,630 that had a comparison 7759 04:21:49,630 --> 04:21:49,663 where staff had done 7760 04:21:49,663 --> 04:21:49,830 research, this was not 7761 04:21:49,830 --> 04:21:50,631 one. 7762 04:21:50,631 --> 04:21:53,310 >> I'm just asking a 7763 04:22:01,642 --> 04:22:03,642 question because it's 7764 04:22:03,677 --> 04:22:03,877 going from six months to a 7765 04:22:03,877 --> 04:22:04,445 year. 7766 04:22:04,445 --> 04:22:05,145 And I'm sure it's a state 7767 04:22:05,145 --> 04:22:05,846 law or something, but I'm 7768 04:22:05,846 --> 04:22:08,549 just trying to figure out 7769 04:22:08,549 --> 04:22:10,284 why now? 7770 04:22:10,284 --> 04:22:11,850 Specifically, why this? 7771 04:22:11,850 --> 04:22:13,850 What happened? 7772 04:22:13,153 --> 04:22:14,550 Something triggered this. 7773 04:22:14,550 --> 04:22:16,455 >> there wasn't a specific 7774 04:22:17,692 --> 04:22:19,594 event. 7775 04:22:19,594 --> 04:22:20,950 It was a discussion from 7776 04:22:20,950 --> 04:22:21,429 one of the members. 7777 04:22:21,429 --> 04:22:22,263 I believe it was mayor 7778 04:22:22,263 --> 04:22:25,263 lauzon or that would be 7779 04:22:30,500 --> 04:22:31,740 required in the minutes, 7780 04:22:31,740 --> 04:22:32,140 but I wouldn't have that 7781 04:22:32,140 --> 04:22:33,241 memorized. 7782 04:22:33,241 --> 04:22:33,808 That's since we were 7783 04:22:33,808 --> 04:22:34,375 looking at the charter and 7784 04:22:34,375 --> 04:22:35,410 making changes and making 7785 04:22:35,410 --> 04:22:37,410 qualifying and other 7786 04:22:37,412 --> 04:22:37,646 municipal election and 7787 04:22:37,646 --> 04:22:38,413 issues. 7788 04:22:38,413 --> 04:22:42,130 That was one of the ideas 7789 04:22:45,319 --> 04:22:47,719 that was brought up. 7790 04:22:51,930 --> 04:22:54,930 >> on 11 k 14, I know -- 7791 04:23:08,511 --> 04:23:09,779 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7792 04:23:09,779 --> 04:23:10,213 all in favor say aye five 7793 04:23:10,213 --> 04:23:12,213 by saying aye. 7794 04:23:14,383 --> 04:23:16,383 All opposed, nay. 7795 04:23:23,920 --> 04:23:23,693 >> no. 7796 04:23:23,693 --> 04:23:24,393 >> I want to thank 7797 04:23:24,393 --> 04:23:26,393 everyone who participated 7798 04:23:28,498 --> 04:23:29,198 in the charter review. 7799 04:23:29,198 --> 04:23:29,966 And I know that one of the 7800 04:23:29,966 --> 04:23:32,366 things that was mentioned 7801 04:23:39,843 --> 04:23:40,811 was either increase the 7802 04:23:40,811 --> 04:23:41,378 time or the pay and I wish 7803 04:23:41,378 --> 04:23:42,460 we would have chosen 7804 04:23:42,460 --> 04:23:45,460 increase the time and the 7805 04:23:58,329 --> 04:23:58,896 reason for that is anepa 7806 04:23:58,896 --> 04:23:59,497 takes 10 years and eight 7807 04:23:59,497 --> 04:24:00,264 years is not enough for 7808 04:24:00,264 --> 04:24:00,898 someone to finalize a 7809 04:24:00,898 --> 04:24:01,765 large-scale project. 7810 04:24:01,765 --> 04:24:02,333 What's happening to us 7811 04:24:02,333 --> 04:24:02,900 time and time again is 7812 04:24:02,900 --> 04:24:03,800 that whenever you're at 7813 04:24:03,800 --> 04:24:04,334 the end of something 7814 04:24:04,334 --> 04:24:04,568 someone hits the reset 7815 04:24:04,568 --> 04:24:05,435 button. 7816 04:24:05,435 --> 04:24:09,350 I think that the salary on 7817 04:24:24,589 --> 04:24:25,356 the ballot when not going 7818 04:24:25,356 --> 04:24:26,580 to be in support of this. 7819 04:24:26,580 --> 04:24:26,691 I don't think this is the 7820 04:24:26,691 --> 04:24:27,459 right time for anyone to 7821 04:24:27,459 --> 04:24:28,590 raise their salaries 7822 04:24:28,590 --> 04:24:28,693 including the board of 7823 04:24:28,693 --> 04:24:29,594 county commissioners. 7824 04:24:29,594 --> 04:24:33,194 I think we all need to 7825 04:24:35,266 --> 04:24:36,835 tighten our belts. 7826 04:24:36,835 --> 04:24:37,469 I think it's going to be 7827 04:24:37,469 --> 04:24:38,103 poorly received and we 7828 04:24:38,103 --> 04:24:38,937 need to do everything we 7829 04:24:38,937 --> 04:24:39,404 can to reflect that we are 7830 04:24:39,404 --> 04:24:40,500 conscious of the 7831 04:24:40,500 --> 04:24:40,872 tremendous need there is 7832 04:24:40,872 --> 04:24:43,872 in our community, so I 7833 04:24:57,790 --> 04:24:58,390 made no on his. 7834 04:24:58,390 --> 04:24:59,225 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7835 04:24:59,225 --> 04:24:59,725 I'm gonna not say what I 7836 04:24:59,725 --> 04:25:00,426 wanted to say. 7837 04:25:00,426 --> 04:25:00,729 >> I'm gonna say what I 7838 04:25:00,729 --> 04:25:00,959 want to say. 7839 04:25:00,959 --> 04:25:01,793 Laughter] 7840 04:25:01,793 --> 04:25:02,428 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7841 04:25:02,428 --> 04:25:03,161 that's a great talking 7842 04:25:03,161 --> 04:25:03,495 point, but we get paid 7843 04:25:03,495 --> 04:25:04,620 $6000 a year. 7844 04:25:04,620 --> 04:25:04,796 I'm happy to exempt myself 7845 04:25:04,796 --> 04:25:05,430 from it moving forward, 7846 04:25:05,430 --> 04:25:08,430 but what's right is right 7847 04:25:10,936 --> 04:25:11,503 and this is supposed to be 7848 04:25:11,503 --> 04:25:12,380 a part-time job and it's 7849 04:25:12,380 --> 04:25:12,505 full-time over time and 7850 04:25:12,505 --> 04:25:13,105 all the times. 7851 04:25:13,105 --> 04:25:13,939 So I don't know, it's 7852 04:25:13,939 --> 04:25:14,639 great for campaign and all 7853 04:25:14,639 --> 04:25:14,907 of that, but it's not 7854 04:25:14,907 --> 04:25:15,674 realistic. 7855 04:25:15,674 --> 04:25:18,740 Where the largest county 7856 04:25:20,112 --> 04:25:23,112 in the state of florida. 7857 04:25:35,361 --> 04:25:36,129 We have a 16, of florida. 7858 04:25:36,129 --> 04:25:37,300 We have a 16, 17,017 7859 04:25:37,300 --> 04:25:37,631 billion-dollar budget. 7860 04:25:37,631 --> 04:25:38,164 We get paid $6000 a year. 7861 04:25:38,164 --> 04:25:38,665 Commissioner cohen 7862 04:25:38,665 --> 04:25:39,990 higgins, I'm gonna 7863 04:25:39,990 --> 04:25:39,633 recognize you first 7864 04:25:39,633 --> 04:25:40,367 because you are the 7865 04:25:40,367 --> 04:25:42,367 sponsoring commissioner, 7866 04:25:45,204 --> 04:25:45,604 but we got a list of folks 7867 04:25:45,604 --> 04:25:46,974 who want to speak. 7868 04:25:46,974 --> 04:25:47,808 >> regarding the timeframe 7869 04:25:47,808 --> 04:25:50,208 for commissioners, you all 7870 04:25:56,750 --> 04:25:57,853 recommended that you bring 7871 04:25:57,853 --> 04:25:58,719 that when? 7872 04:25:58,719 --> 04:25:59,286 >> we recommended that 7873 04:25:59,286 --> 04:25:59,887 that come in the next 7874 04:25:59,887 --> 04:26:00,754 election cycle, 2028. 7875 04:26:00,754 --> 04:26:01,388 >> that's reflected in the 7876 04:26:01,388 --> 04:26:01,922 report that's on the 7877 04:26:01,922 --> 04:26:02,722 agenda today? 7878 04:26:02,722 --> 04:26:05,122 That's coming in the 7879 04:26:05,625 --> 04:26:06,794 future. 7880 04:26:06,794 --> 04:26:07,395 I want to be clear 7881 04:26:07,395 --> 04:26:08,262 regarding the salary 7882 04:26:08,262 --> 04:26:09,230 commission that was 7883 04:26:09,230 --> 04:26:09,763 recommended by the charter 7884 04:26:09,763 --> 04:26:12,163 review task force, it's 7885 04:26:13,300 --> 04:26:14,835 entirely possible that the 7886 04:26:14,835 --> 04:26:15,502 commission can recommend a 7887 04:26:15,502 --> 04:26:16,300 lower salary, is that 7888 04:26:16,300 --> 04:26:16,538 correct? 7889 04:26:16,538 --> 04:26:17,505 >> that is correct. 7890 04:26:17,505 --> 04:26:18,873 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 7891 04:26:18,873 --> 04:26:20,873 commissioner bermudez, 7892 04:26:41,762 --> 04:26:42,997 you're recognized. 7893 04:26:42,997 --> 04:26:43,964 16 I thank you very much 7894 04:26:43,964 --> 04:26:44,632 for taking the time to do 7895 04:26:44,632 --> 04:26:45,330 public service and come up 7896 04:26:45,330 --> 04:26:45,566 with this. 7897 04:26:45,566 --> 04:26:46,167 We are not approving a 7898 04:26:46,167 --> 04:26:46,969 salary increase here. 7899 04:26:46,969 --> 04:26:47,202 We are putting it to the 7900 04:26:47,202 --> 04:26:47,870 voters. 7901 04:26:47,870 --> 04:26:48,470 The CHAIRMAN Correctly 7902 04:26:48,470 --> 04:26:49,371 pointed out that most 7903 04:26:49,371 --> 04:26:49,871 other counties including 7904 04:26:49,871 --> 04:26:51,706 the one directly to the 7905 04:26:51,706 --> 04:26:52,574 north which has part-time 7906 04:26:52,574 --> 04:26:52,974 commissioners uses 7907 04:26:52,974 --> 04:26:53,475 population to pay 7908 04:26:53,475 --> 04:26:54,900 themselves and I'm not 7909 04:26:54,900 --> 04:26:54,576 going to talk about what 7910 04:26:54,576 --> 04:26:57,576 they get because they get 7911 04:27:00,149 --> 04:27:00,749 a **** a lot more, but 7912 04:27:00,749 --> 04:27:03,749 the problem is the fact 7913 04:27:03,852 --> 04:27:06,852 that this was created when 7914 04:27:09,492 --> 04:27:10,793 we became a charter 7915 04:27:10,793 --> 04:27:11,694 county, it's a great 7916 04:27:11,694 --> 04:27:12,294 political talking point. 7917 04:27:12,294 --> 04:27:12,995 Nobody wants to give 7918 04:27:12,995 --> 04:27:13,696 politicians more salary 7919 04:27:13,696 --> 04:27:15,696 because nobody likes 7920 04:27:19,235 --> 04:27:19,902 lawyers and politicians. 7921 04:27:19,902 --> 04:27:20,469 Having said that, I have 7922 04:27:20,469 --> 04:27:22,869 won elections because I've 7923 04:27:23,506 --> 04:27:24,840 been very straightforward 7924 04:27:24,840 --> 04:27:25,674 and it's a lot better to 7925 04:27:25,674 --> 04:27:29,274 give it to a commission to 7926 04:27:48,265 --> 04:27:49,499 determine whether it has 7927 04:27:49,499 --> 04:27:50,366 as commissioner cohen 7928 04:27:50,366 --> 04:27:50,834 higgins said, maybe less, 7929 04:27:50,834 --> 04:27:51,167 maybe more. 7930 04:27:51,167 --> 04:27:51,935 I don't know. 7931 04:27:51,935 --> 04:27:52,102 Be careful what you wish 7932 04:27:52,102 --> 04:27:52,936 for. 7933 04:27:52,936 --> 04:27:53,469 The main thing I want to 7934 04:27:53,469 --> 04:27:54,700 point out is I did not 7935 04:27:54,700 --> 04:27:54,871 have a chance because I 7936 04:27:54,871 --> 04:27:55,538 actually have to work and 7937 04:27:55,538 --> 04:27:56,373 that is one of the things 7938 04:27:56,373 --> 04:27:56,674 that the public needs to 7939 04:27:56,674 --> 04:27:57,374 understand. 7940 04:27:57,374 --> 04:27:58,800 This is a very, as the 7941 04:27:58,800 --> 04:27:58,442 CHAIRMAN Said, it is a 7942 04:27:58,442 --> 04:28:00,442 very difficult job. 7943 04:28:12,560 --> 04:28:13,357 Besides the constituent 7944 04:28:13,357 --> 04:28:13,757 services, it takes a lot 7945 04:28:13,757 --> 04:28:14,491 of time. 7946 04:28:14,491 --> 04:28:15,225 Later this afternoon I'm 7947 04:28:15,225 --> 04:28:15,992 going to be in -- with 7948 04:28:15,992 --> 04:28:16,760 some of my colleagues. 7949 04:28:16,760 --> 04:28:16,960 Yes, I will be there at 7950 04:28:16,960 --> 04:28:17,761 6:00. 7951 04:28:17,761 --> 04:28:18,395 I will be there because we 7952 04:28:18,395 --> 04:28:18,995 will be sitting as the cra 7953 04:28:18,995 --> 04:28:19,762 for that community and a 7954 04:28:19,762 --> 04:28:22,762 lot of times in this 7955 04:28:24,434 --> 04:28:26,350 county it's always what 7956 04:28:26,350 --> 04:28:26,302 sounds good as a 7957 04:28:26,302 --> 04:28:27,690 soundbite. 7958 04:28:27,690 --> 04:28:28,370 Trust me, there's a lot of 7959 04:28:28,370 --> 04:28:28,704 county commissioners that 7960 04:28:28,704 --> 04:28:29,572 I maybe didn't like in the 7961 04:28:29,572 --> 04:28:32,407 past, but I always felt 7962 04:28:32,407 --> 04:28:32,708 that they certainly it 7963 04:28:32,708 --> 04:28:34,176 wasn't fair. 7964 04:28:34,176 --> 04:28:35,430 As commissioner moss once 7965 04:28:35,430 --> 04:28:35,711 said, you know, all those 7966 04:28:35,711 --> 04:28:36,712 years and the amount that 7967 04:28:36,712 --> 04:28:39,112 he technically got every 7968 04:28:42,517 --> 04:28:43,218 year was a minimal amount. 7969 04:28:43,218 --> 04:28:43,652 So I want to thank you 7970 04:28:43,652 --> 04:28:44,185 guys for the work. 7971 04:28:44,185 --> 04:28:47,185 I'm going to support it 7972 04:29:03,270 --> 04:29:03,870 because it's -- if the 7973 04:29:03,870 --> 04:29:04,538 voters decide no, then 7974 04:29:04,538 --> 04:29:05,305 they will decide know as 7975 04:29:05,305 --> 04:29:05,839 they have in the past, 7976 04:29:05,839 --> 04:29:06,406 which is their true 7977 04:29:06,406 --> 04:29:08,608 democracy, which is the 7978 04:29:08,608 --> 04:29:09,800 way it should be, okay? 7979 04:29:09,800 --> 04:29:09,609 And that is fine. 7980 04:29:09,609 --> 04:29:10,242 Probably half the people 7981 04:29:10,242 --> 04:29:10,777 here move to broward -- 7982 04:29:10,777 --> 04:29:13,177 no, I'm just kidding. 7983 04:29:18,150 --> 04:29:19,752 But the bottom line is it 7984 04:29:19,752 --> 04:29:20,318 is not, you know, whether 7985 04:29:20,318 --> 04:29:20,518 it's three terms or two 7986 04:29:20,518 --> 04:29:21,253 terms. 7987 04:29:21,253 --> 04:29:21,887 A lot of these things will 7988 04:29:21,887 --> 04:29:22,870 never get done in our 7989 04:29:22,870 --> 04:29:22,754 time. 7990 04:29:22,754 --> 04:29:25,754 One of the reasons we 7991 04:29:41,205 --> 04:29:42,973 haven't been able to pass 7992 04:29:42,973 --> 04:29:43,407 some transportation, some 7993 04:29:43,407 --> 04:29:44,400 of the things on 7994 04:29:44,400 --> 04:29:44,841 transportation we need to 7995 04:29:44,841 --> 04:29:45,410 pass is because, guess 7996 04:29:45,410 --> 04:29:45,809 what? 7997 04:29:45,809 --> 04:29:46,343 As I said ad nausea him in 7998 04:29:46,343 --> 04:29:47,100 2003, there was a smart 7999 04:29:47,100 --> 04:29:47,877 plan, everybody liked it. 8000 04:29:47,877 --> 04:29:49,746 we sit here today and 2026 8001 04:29:49,746 --> 04:29:50,313 and we are still talking 8002 04:29:50,313 --> 04:29:51,147 about the same thing. 8003 04:29:51,147 --> 04:29:51,881 So I don't know if two 8004 04:29:51,881 --> 04:29:52,615 terms or three terms will 8005 04:29:52,615 --> 04:29:53,115 make a difference, but I 8006 04:29:53,115 --> 04:29:53,216 will tell you this. 8007 04:29:53,216 --> 04:29:53,850 Do 8008 04:29:53,850 --> 04:29:54,651 think this group of 8009 04:29:54,651 --> 04:29:55,285 people, and I served on it 8010 04:29:55,285 --> 04:29:55,952 in 2012 where senator 8011 04:29:55,952 --> 04:29:58,952 garcia was the vice chair 8012 04:30:10,465 --> 04:30:11,466 and we proposed anything 8013 04:30:11,466 --> 04:30:12,670 to the county commission 8014 04:30:12,670 --> 04:30:12,968 including many ethical 8015 04:30:12,968 --> 04:30:13,634 reforms that did not pass, 8016 04:30:13,634 --> 04:30:14,102 but there were certain 8017 04:30:14,102 --> 04:30:14,703 things that did pass 8018 04:30:14,703 --> 04:30:15,537 including term limits. 8019 04:30:15,537 --> 04:30:16,710 One of the things that is 8020 04:30:16,710 --> 04:30:16,637 important is to allow the 8021 04:30:16,637 --> 04:30:17,138 voters in miami-dade 8022 04:30:17,138 --> 04:30:18,390 county to decide. 8023 04:30:18,390 --> 04:30:20,700 The chances of it passing 8024 04:30:20,700 --> 04:30:21,209 are probably almost as 8025 04:30:21,209 --> 04:30:22,430 good as cape verde 8026 04:30:22,430 --> 04:30:22,643 actually winning the world 8027 04:30:22,643 --> 04:30:23,277 cup, but the fact is it's 8028 04:30:23,277 --> 04:30:26,877 up to the voters and I 8029 04:30:37,657 --> 04:30:39,125 don't want anybody quoting 8030 04:30:39,125 --> 04:30:39,992 us saying that voting for 8031 04:30:39,992 --> 04:30:40,693 this is an increase in 8032 04:30:40,693 --> 04:30:41,561 salaries because it's not. 8033 04:30:41,561 --> 04:30:42,161 It is a vote to put it in 8034 04:30:42,161 --> 04:30:43,290 front of the voters. 8035 04:30:43,290 --> 04:30:43,729 By the way, most of us 8036 04:30:43,729 --> 04:30:44,530 including me probably 8037 04:30:44,530 --> 04:30:45,640 won't be around to see the 8038 04:30:45,640 --> 04:30:45,731 benefits of it. 8039 04:30:45,731 --> 04:30:47,733 The point is, if there are 8040 04:30:47,733 --> 04:30:48,834 any, the bottom line is 8041 04:30:48,834 --> 04:30:49,680 thank you for your 8042 04:30:49,680 --> 04:30:49,802 service. 8043 04:30:49,802 --> 04:30:50,502 I served on the prior 8044 04:30:50,502 --> 04:30:51,370 charter review committee 8045 04:30:51,370 --> 04:30:54,370 within senator -- I guess 8046 04:30:58,944 --> 04:31:00,111 I still got to call him 8047 04:31:00,111 --> 04:31:00,645 senator. 8048 04:31:00,645 --> 04:31:01,179 I thank you for your time 8049 04:31:01,179 --> 04:31:01,880 because I know it takes a 8050 04:31:01,880 --> 04:31:02,580 lot of time and a lot of 8051 04:31:02,580 --> 04:31:03,581 effort and I know you guys 8052 04:31:03,581 --> 04:31:05,981 were well thought-out and 8053 04:31:08,185 --> 04:31:09,687 went through a very let's 8054 04:31:09,687 --> 04:31:10,254 call it difficult process 8055 04:31:10,254 --> 04:31:11,154 and it's not easy to 8056 04:31:11,154 --> 04:31:11,822 submit these things to the 8057 04:31:11,822 --> 04:31:14,190 county commission and it's 8058 04:31:14,190 --> 04:31:15,626 not easy for this body to 8059 04:31:15,626 --> 04:31:16,226 take a vote putting it to 8060 04:31:16,226 --> 04:31:16,860 the voters, but it's 8061 04:31:16,860 --> 04:31:19,260 probably our obligation to 8062 04:31:23,660 --> 04:31:24,734 do it. 8063 04:31:24,734 --> 04:31:25,268 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 8064 04:31:25,268 --> 04:31:26,169 and on that note before I 8065 04:31:26,169 --> 04:31:27,136 recognize commissioner 8066 04:31:27,136 --> 04:31:27,670 gilbert, thank you dennis 8067 04:31:27,670 --> 04:31:28,204 for leaving this charter 8068 04:31:28,204 --> 04:31:28,404 task force and the vice 8069 04:31:28,404 --> 04:31:30,404 chair. 8070 04:31:50,525 --> 04:31:50,725 Speaker designate for the 8071 04:31:50,725 --> 04:31:51,459 house. 8072 04:31:51,459 --> 04:31:52,590 You all gave your time in 8073 04:31:52,590 --> 04:31:52,693 addition to the other 8074 04:31:52,693 --> 04:31:53,528 charter task force members 8075 04:31:53,528 --> 04:31:54,610 that participated, so 8076 04:31:54,610 --> 04:31:54,528 thank you all for your 8077 04:31:54,528 --> 04:31:55,196 time on this. 8078 04:31:55,196 --> 04:31:55,996 This is something that we 8079 04:31:55,996 --> 04:31:56,597 do every several years and 8080 04:31:56,597 --> 04:31:57,198 it's very important for 8081 04:31:57,198 --> 04:31:57,564 our county, so appreciate 8082 04:31:57,564 --> 04:31:58,231 that. 8083 04:31:58,231 --> 04:31:59,199 Commissioner gilbert? 8084 04:31:59,199 --> 04:31:59,767 >> Oliver Gilbert: thank 8085 04:31:59,767 --> 04:32:00,601 you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 8086 04:32:00,601 --> 04:32:01,168 It's my understanding this 8087 04:32:01,168 --> 04:32:02,102 is going valid in 2028? 8088 04:32:02,102 --> 04:32:02,836 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 8089 04:32:02,836 --> 04:32:03,690 the ones we are discussing 8090 04:32:03,690 --> 04:32:03,603 are now. 8091 04:32:03,603 --> 04:32:04,237 Here was a 8092 04:32:04,237 --> 04:32:05,138 question about term limits 8093 04:32:05,138 --> 04:32:07,538 being extended and that 8094 04:32:08,208 --> 04:32:08,408 will be in the ballot on 8095 04:32:08,408 --> 04:32:09,175 2028. 8096 04:32:09,175 --> 04:32:09,742 All of these are going to 8097 04:32:09,742 --> 04:32:09,943 be on the ballot this 8098 04:32:09,943 --> 04:32:10,710 year. 8099 04:32:10,710 --> 04:32:11,710 >> Oliver Gilbert: mr. 8100 04:32:11,710 --> 04:32:12,645 chairman, I don't have any 8101 04:32:12,645 --> 04:32:15,450 objection to letting the 8102 04:32:16,582 --> 04:32:17,216 voters decide. 8103 04:32:17,216 --> 04:32:18,117 What we did in miami 8104 04:32:18,117 --> 04:32:18,617 gardens in my city is our 8105 04:32:18,617 --> 04:32:20,285 charter was actually 8106 04:32:20,285 --> 04:32:20,886 modeled after the county's 8107 04:32:20,886 --> 04:32:21,420 charter on salaries and 8108 04:32:21,420 --> 04:32:21,653 put salaries in the 8109 04:32:21,653 --> 04:32:23,653 charter. 8110 04:32:25,657 --> 04:32:26,291 On my way out I actually 8111 04:32:26,291 --> 04:32:27,893 sponsored the item so that 8112 04:32:27,893 --> 04:32:30,893 it would affect them not 8113 04:32:32,300 --> 04:32:32,630 because I needed more 8114 04:32:32,630 --> 04:32:33,198 money but I needed to 8115 04:32:33,198 --> 04:32:33,698 structurally make 8116 04:32:33,698 --> 04:32:35,990 leadership and public 8117 04:32:35,990 --> 04:32:37,499 service more available to 8118 04:32:39,604 --> 04:32:40,504 more people. 8119 04:32:40,504 --> 04:32:41,720 We have this conversation 8120 04:32:41,720 --> 04:32:41,705 because we have in the 8121 04:32:41,705 --> 04:32:44,705 context of the people who 8122 04:32:56,986 --> 04:32:57,586 are here, and we are all 8123 04:32:57,586 --> 04:32:58,521 politicians, we are all 8124 04:32:58,521 --> 04:32:58,688 elected officials right 8125 04:32:58,688 --> 04:32:59,589 now. 8126 04:32:59,589 --> 04:33:00,156 I was thinking when I left 8127 04:33:00,156 --> 04:33:01,230 miami gardens in terms of 8128 04:33:01,230 --> 04:33:01,724 the people who could 8129 04:33:01,724 --> 04:33:03,724 serve, so realistically 8130 04:33:04,826 --> 04:33:05,861 could folks who aren't 8131 04:33:05,861 --> 04:33:06,362 professional and have 8132 04:33:06,362 --> 04:33:06,862 independent source of 8133 04:33:06,862 --> 04:33:09,262 income before to serve, 8134 04:33:09,898 --> 04:33:11,199 could teachers really just 8135 04:33:11,199 --> 04:33:11,633 really afford to serve on 8136 04:33:11,633 --> 04:33:13,633 this council? 8137 04:33:33,860 --> 04:33:33,320 Could some blue-collar 8138 04:33:33,320 --> 04:33:33,920 workers? 8139 04:33:33,920 --> 04:33:34,220 These are things that I 8140 04:33:34,220 --> 04:33:34,721 ask myself. 8141 04:33:34,721 --> 04:33:35,489 So when we look at the 8142 04:33:35,489 --> 04:33:36,890 type of public servants 8143 04:33:36,890 --> 04:33:36,690 that we have, it's in 8144 04:33:36,690 --> 04:33:37,591 large part it's dictated 8145 04:33:37,591 --> 04:33:38,158 by the framework of public 8146 04:33:38,158 --> 04:33:38,825 service that we create. 8147 04:33:38,825 --> 04:33:39,526 And so I wanted to give 8148 04:33:39,526 --> 04:33:41,926 the voters of miami 8149 04:33:50,536 --> 04:33:51,903 gardens an opportunity to 8150 04:33:51,903 --> 04:33:52,337 actually have their say on 8151 04:33:52,337 --> 04:33:52,871 it. 8152 04:33:52,871 --> 04:33:53,380 Independently have their 8153 04:33:53,380 --> 04:33:53,772 say. 8154 04:33:53,772 --> 04:33:54,339 In the interim, what I did 8155 04:33:54,339 --> 04:33:55,307 was I went out with a 8156 04:33:55,307 --> 04:33:55,574 camera and I asked people 8157 04:33:55,574 --> 04:33:56,274 questions. 8158 04:33:56,274 --> 04:33:56,875 I said how much do you 8159 04:33:56,875 --> 04:33:57,476 think the mayor makes? 8160 04:33:57,476 --> 04:33:57,942 And we got all these 8161 04:33:57,942 --> 04:33:59,942 wonderful answers. 8162 04:34:11,689 --> 04:34:11,956 It was like $300,000 and 8163 04:34:11,956 --> 04:34:12,723 $400,000. 8164 04:34:12,723 --> 04:34:13,424 You would say back then it 8165 04:34:13,424 --> 04:34:14,191 was $42,000 and they were 8166 04:34:14,191 --> 04:34:14,892 all completely shocked. 8167 04:34:14,892 --> 04:34:15,359 Nd I say how much do you 8168 04:34:15,359 --> 04:34:15,793 think a city counsel 8169 04:34:15,793 --> 04:34:16,360 person makes? 8170 04:34:16,360 --> 04:34:17,227 And they would say 8171 04:34:17,227 --> 04:34:18,962 $100,000 and then when you 8172 04:34:18,962 --> 04:34:19,496 told them it was $1000 a 8173 04:34:19,496 --> 04:34:19,896 month, they were all 8174 04:34:19,896 --> 04:34:20,530 shocked. 8175 04:34:20,530 --> 04:34:21,970 That was the entirety of 8176 04:34:21,970 --> 04:34:21,898 the campaign. 8177 04:34:21,898 --> 04:34:22,232 I didn't ask them to vote 8178 04:34:22,232 --> 04:34:22,866 for anything. 8179 04:34:22,866 --> 04:34:25,266 I just simply took 8180 04:34:39,982 --> 04:34:41,149 campaign money and 8181 04:34:41,149 --> 04:34:42,500 educated them. 8182 04:34:42,500 --> 04:34:42,784 This is what actually 8183 04:34:42,784 --> 04:34:43,118 happens, this is what they 8184 04:34:43,118 --> 04:34:43,719 actually make. 8185 04:34:43,719 --> 04:34:44,352 I don't know what the 8186 04:34:44,352 --> 04:34:44,853 voters will do if we put 8187 04:34:44,853 --> 04:34:45,754 this before them. 8188 04:34:45,754 --> 04:34:46,388 I do know that somewhere, 8189 04:34:46,388 --> 04:34:46,854 somehow we have to make 8190 04:34:46,854 --> 04:34:47,489 public service more 8191 04:34:47,489 --> 04:34:49,889 accessible to people who 8192 04:34:55,162 --> 04:34:56,163 aren't professional or 8193 04:34:56,163 --> 04:34:56,864 independently wealthy or 8194 04:34:56,864 --> 04:34:57,297 entrepreneurs who can take 8195 04:34:57,297 --> 04:34:57,865 the time off. 8196 04:34:57,865 --> 04:35:00,865 We have to make this 8197 04:35:11,440 --> 04:35:12,110 full-time job have a 8198 04:35:12,110 --> 04:35:12,712 full-time compensation so 8199 04:35:12,712 --> 04:35:13,580 that the vast majority of 8200 04:35:13,580 --> 04:35:14,147 the residents of 8201 04:35:14,147 --> 04:35:14,547 miami-dade county, it 8202 04:35:14,547 --> 04:35:15,140 actually becomes 8203 04:35:15,140 --> 04:35:15,109 accessible to them. 8204 04:35:15,109 --> 04:35:15,748 O 8205 04:35:15,748 --> 04:35:18,748 right now I don't feel 8206 04:35:20,860 --> 04:35:21,820 like it is and you know, 8207 04:35:21,820 --> 04:35:22,621 we'll sit here and we talk 8208 04:35:22,621 --> 04:35:22,955 -- we pass union contracts 8209 04:35:22,955 --> 04:35:23,522 all the time. 8210 04:35:23,522 --> 04:35:24,323 Ask yourself could allot 8211 04:35:24,323 --> 04:35:27,323 of the members of unite 8212 04:35:37,468 --> 04:35:39,360 here actually afford to be 8213 04:35:39,360 --> 04:35:39,737 a county commissioner with 8214 04:35:39,737 --> 04:35:40,605 the time that it takes and 8215 04:35:40,605 --> 04:35:41,572 the money that it pays and 8216 04:35:41,572 --> 04:35:42,730 their obligations still to 8217 04:35:42,730 --> 04:35:42,773 their families. 8218 04:35:42,773 --> 04:35:45,773 Those are the questions I 8219 04:35:52,480 --> 04:35:52,382 ask myself when I consider 8220 04:35:52,382 --> 04:35:52,949 these. 8221 04:35:52,949 --> 04:35:53,583 When I did it in miami 8222 04:35:53,583 --> 04:35:54,517 gardens, I did it on my 8223 04:35:54,517 --> 04:35:54,684 way out so it won't affect 8224 04:35:54,684 --> 04:35:55,352 me. 8225 04:35:55,352 --> 04:35:55,585 This won't affect me 8226 04:35:55,585 --> 04:35:56,119 either. 8227 04:35:56,119 --> 04:35:56,586 I'm very comfortable 8228 04:35:56,586 --> 04:35:56,886 putting this to the 8229 04:35:56,886 --> 04:35:58,886 voters. 8230 04:36:02,425 --> 04:36:03,593 Hank you, 8231 04:36:03,593 --> 04:36:04,920 commissioner. 8232 04:36:04,920 --> 04:36:04,360 >> thank you, MR. 8233 04:36:04,360 --> 04:36:05,127 CHAIRMAN. 8234 04:36:05,127 --> 04:36:05,361 I have a question for 8235 04:36:05,361 --> 04:36:05,894 dennis. 8236 04:36:05,894 --> 04:36:06,195 What was the denison in 8237 04:36:06,195 --> 04:36:06,728 this item? 8238 04:36:06,728 --> 04:36:07,630 I'm just curious. 8239 04:36:07,630 --> 04:36:08,864 >> one of the topics we 8240 04:36:08,864 --> 04:36:10,532 had set out in the 8241 04:36:10,532 --> 04:36:11,233 beginning to discuss was 8242 04:36:11,233 --> 04:36:12,167 commission salaries. 8243 04:36:12,167 --> 04:36:15,167 For exactly the reasons as 8244 04:36:15,570 --> 04:36:17,272 commissioner gilbert and 8245 04:36:17,272 --> 04:36:17,872 commissioner bermudez 8246 04:36:17,872 --> 04:36:20,272 articulated and the chair. 8247 04:36:42,829 --> 04:36:44,630 The concern about making 8248 04:36:44,630 --> 04:36:45,164 sure it was possible for 8249 04:36:45,164 --> 04:36:45,398 people to serve, a broad 8250 04:36:45,398 --> 04:36:46,132 variety. 8251 04:36:46,132 --> 04:36:46,733 So the question has become 8252 04:36:46,733 --> 04:36:47,333 how to achieve that. 8253 04:36:47,333 --> 04:36:48,200 We know that having the 8254 04:36:48,200 --> 04:36:50,469 number in the charter was 8255 04:36:50,469 --> 04:36:51,360 a problem, but replacing a 8256 04:36:51,360 --> 04:36:51,270 number with a number was a 8257 04:36:51,270 --> 04:36:52,400 problem. 8258 04:36:52,400 --> 04:36:52,504 We looked at formulas and 8259 04:36:52,504 --> 04:36:53,138 commissioner moss was 8260 04:36:53,138 --> 04:36:54,730 actually the one who was 8261 04:36:54,730 --> 04:36:54,940 the genesis of this idea 8262 04:36:54,940 --> 04:36:55,607 of let's create a process 8263 04:36:55,607 --> 04:36:56,141 and that got the consensus 8264 04:36:56,141 --> 04:36:57,476 among the task force 8265 04:36:57,476 --> 04:36:59,770 members that this, if we 8266 04:36:59,770 --> 04:36:59,745 replace the number with a 8267 04:36:59,745 --> 04:37:00,612 process, that MAY be more 8268 04:37:00,612 --> 04:37:01,212 palatable with the voters 8269 04:37:01,212 --> 04:37:03,212 especially given the 8270 04:37:13,230 --> 04:37:14,425 composition of the voters 8271 04:37:14,425 --> 04:37:15,125 >> so it was in keeping 8272 04:37:15,125 --> 04:37:15,459 with what commissioner 8273 04:37:15,459 --> 04:37:15,793 gilbert said? 8274 04:37:15,793 --> 04:37:16,627 >> yes. 8275 04:37:16,627 --> 04:37:17,661 >> there was concern that 8276 04:37:17,661 --> 04:37:20,610 not just anyone could 8277 04:37:22,466 --> 04:37:23,330 serve as a commissioner 8278 04:37:23,330 --> 04:37:23,566 because of the $6000 8279 04:37:23,566 --> 04:37:24,200 annual salary. 8280 04:37:24,200 --> 04:37:24,701 >> yes. 8281 04:37:24,701 --> 04:37:26,701 >> interesting. 8282 04:37:38,447 --> 04:37:38,747 Was there consensus on the 8283 04:37:38,747 --> 04:37:39,447 commission? 8284 04:37:39,447 --> 04:37:39,881 >> I believe it passed 8285 04:37:39,881 --> 04:37:40,616 unanimously once we 8286 04:37:40,616 --> 04:37:41,116 coalesced around the idea 8287 04:37:41,116 --> 04:37:42,500 of salary commission. 8288 04:37:42,500 --> 04:37:42,985 >> was there public input 8289 04:37:42,985 --> 04:37:43,185 regarding this particular 8290 04:37:43,185 --> 04:37:43,986 issue? 8291 04:37:43,986 --> 04:37:46,386 >> we had numerous public 8292 04:37:48,489 --> 04:37:49,858 meetings. 8293 04:37:49,858 --> 04:37:50,759 Every meeting was public 8294 04:37:50,759 --> 04:37:51,250 and we occasionally had 8295 04:37:51,250 --> 04:37:51,726 speakers. 8296 04:37:51,726 --> 04:37:52,260 I don't specifically 8297 04:37:52,260 --> 04:37:53,995 remember that. 8298 04:37:53,995 --> 04:37:54,562 >> do you recall anyone 8299 04:37:54,562 --> 04:37:55,960 opposing the idea of the 8300 04:37:55,960 --> 04:37:55,530 salary commission? 8301 04:37:55,530 --> 04:37:56,363 >> no. 8302 04:37:56,363 --> 04:37:56,631 >> thank you, MR. 8303 04:37:56,631 --> 04:37:57,364 CHAIRMAN. 8304 04:37:57,364 --> 04:37:59,764 I don't doubt anything 8305 04:38:13,246 --> 04:38:13,446 that commissioner gilbert 8306 04:38:13,446 --> 04:38:14,247 said. 8307 04:38:14,247 --> 04:38:15,480 I think you're absolutely 8308 04:38:15,480 --> 04:38:16,820 right, if you want to have 8309 04:38:16,820 --> 04:38:16,783 more people interested in 8310 04:38:16,783 --> 04:38:17,617 running, then I think we 8311 04:38:17,617 --> 04:38:18,551 need to make sure they are 8312 04:38:18,551 --> 04:38:19,185 compensated appropriately. 8313 04:38:19,185 --> 04:38:19,819 However, when we decided 8314 04:38:19,819 --> 04:38:22,540 to brun, this board 8315 04:38:22,540 --> 04:38:23,220 decided to run, we knew 8316 04:38:23,220 --> 04:38:23,321 what the compensation 8317 04:38:23,321 --> 04:38:24,156 package was. 8318 04:38:24,156 --> 04:38:25,240 I think I have no problem 8319 04:38:25,240 --> 04:38:25,523 for it going to the 8320 04:38:25,523 --> 04:38:27,590 voters. 8321 04:38:27,590 --> 04:38:27,726 However, it should be 8322 04:38:27,726 --> 04:38:28,260 something that should not 8323 04:38:28,260 --> 04:38:29,610 be self serving. 8324 04:38:29,610 --> 04:38:32,163 For me, when would this go 8325 04:38:32,163 --> 04:38:33,798 into effect? 8326 04:38:33,798 --> 04:38:34,466 >> this one as drafted 8327 04:38:34,466 --> 04:38:36,866 would go into effect 8328 04:38:51,810 --> 04:38:51,314 immediately upon being 8329 04:38:51,314 --> 04:38:52,883 drafted. 8330 04:38:52,883 --> 04:38:53,450 >> the only way I would 8331 04:38:53,450 --> 04:38:54,184 support this is it does 8332 04:38:54,184 --> 04:38:54,984 not go into effect until 8333 04:38:54,984 --> 04:38:55,452 after the current board is 8334 04:38:55,452 --> 04:38:55,952 here. 8335 04:38:55,952 --> 04:38:56,453 I find it a little 8336 04:38:56,453 --> 04:38:57,320 self-serving for us to 8337 04:38:57,320 --> 04:38:58,154 vote for something. 8338 04:38:58,154 --> 04:38:58,388 It goes to the voters, I 8339 04:38:58,388 --> 04:38:59,188 get it. 8340 04:38:59,188 --> 04:38:59,856 But it needs to be 8341 04:38:59,856 --> 04:39:00,690 something that should not 8342 04:39:00,690 --> 04:39:01,624 affect me or anyone on 8343 04:39:01,624 --> 04:39:03,920 this board because when we 8344 04:39:03,920 --> 04:39:05,795 ran for office, we ran 8345 04:39:05,795 --> 04:39:06,328 with the understanding 8346 04:39:06,328 --> 04:39:06,729 that we were being 8347 04:39:06,729 --> 04:39:08,729 compensated for. 8348 04:39:11,333 --> 04:39:12,468 That's my only objection 8349 04:39:12,468 --> 04:39:13,502 to the item. 8350 04:39:13,502 --> 04:39:15,360 and I hate to vote against 8351 04:39:15,360 --> 04:39:15,637 an item because it does go 8352 04:39:15,637 --> 04:39:18,637 to the voters and we 8353 04:39:19,574 --> 04:39:21,176 should never take the 8354 04:39:21,176 --> 04:39:21,910 voters rights away, but it 8355 04:39:21,910 --> 04:39:23,911 should not be something 8356 04:39:23,911 --> 04:39:25,613 self serving. 8357 04:39:25,613 --> 04:39:26,247 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 8358 04:39:26,247 --> 04:39:26,581 commissioner or the vice 8359 04:39:26,581 --> 04:39:28,581 chair? 8360 04:39:38,225 --> 04:39:39,693 No? 8361 04:39:39,693 --> 04:39:40,493 Commissioner regalado. 8362 04:39:40,493 --> 04:39:41,194 >> Raquel Regalado: I 8363 04:39:41,194 --> 04:39:41,761 have a question, dennis. 8364 04:39:41,761 --> 04:39:42,529 You have the two issues 8365 04:39:42,529 --> 04:39:43,620 and the reason that you 8366 04:39:43,620 --> 04:39:43,663 all suggested that the 8367 04:39:43,663 --> 04:39:46,320 term limits should go 8368 04:39:46,320 --> 04:39:47,366 later is so that it 8369 04:39:47,366 --> 04:39:47,967 wouldn't apply to us. 8370 04:39:47,967 --> 04:39:48,701 So I'm glad that was one 8371 04:39:48,701 --> 04:39:49,569 of the conversations was 8372 04:39:49,569 --> 04:39:50,403 the applicability. 8373 04:39:50,403 --> 04:39:53,403 I maintain that we should 8374 04:40:02,447 --> 04:40:03,915 consider putting term 8375 04:40:03,915 --> 04:40:04,582 limits and then having it 8376 04:40:04,582 --> 04:40:04,849 applied to the next round 8377 04:40:04,849 --> 04:40:05,516 of humans. 8378 04:40:05,516 --> 04:40:06,500 I think we can still do 8379 04:40:06,500 --> 04:40:09,500 that and I agree with 8380 04:40:16,227 --> 04:40:16,894 senator garcia that it's 8381 04:40:16,894 --> 04:40:17,728 interesting that the logic 8382 04:40:17,728 --> 04:40:18,395 that was used on the term 8383 04:40:18,395 --> 04:40:19,229 limits was the board of 8384 04:40:19,229 --> 04:40:19,863 county commissioners shall 8385 04:40:19,863 --> 04:40:20,464 not put something on the 8386 04:40:20,464 --> 04:40:21,298 ballot that would extend 8387 04:40:21,298 --> 04:40:24,898 their time on the board of 8388 04:40:47,822 --> 04:40:49,590 county commissioners, but 8389 04:40:49,590 --> 04:40:50,250 yet when it came to the 8390 04:40:50,250 --> 04:40:50,525 salary, because you 8391 04:40:50,525 --> 04:40:51,920 created another entity 8392 04:40:51,920 --> 04:40:51,693 that would in theory make 8393 04:40:51,693 --> 04:40:52,260 the decision, then it was 8394 04:40:52,260 --> 04:40:53,127 perfectly fine for us to 8395 04:40:53,127 --> 04:40:53,761 put something on the 8396 04:40:53,761 --> 04:40:54,295 ballot that would adhere 8397 04:40:54,295 --> 04:40:55,229 to our benefit. 8398 04:40:55,229 --> 04:40:55,863 I don't think that either 8399 04:40:55,863 --> 04:40:56,330 of them should adhere to 8400 04:40:56,330 --> 04:40:57,231 our benefit. 8401 04:40:57,231 --> 04:40:57,932 I think that really does 8402 04:40:57,932 --> 04:40:58,366 change the very nature of 8403 04:40:58,366 --> 04:40:59,233 charter reform. 8404 04:40:59,233 --> 04:40:59,934 I think that anything that 8405 04:40:59,934 --> 04:41:00,401 we change should be moving 8406 04:41:00,401 --> 04:41:01,350 forward, and to the 8407 04:41:01,350 --> 04:41:03,435 senator's point, we all 8408 04:41:03,504 --> 04:41:04,305 ran with a clear 8409 04:41:04,305 --> 04:41:04,838 understanding of the 8410 04:41:04,838 --> 04:41:05,505 benefits and timing was. 8411 04:41:05,505 --> 04:41:06,720 In terms of the term 8412 04:41:06,720 --> 04:41:07,700 limits, why did you all 8413 04:41:07,700 --> 04:41:07,574 make the recommendation to 8414 04:41:07,574 --> 04:41:08,410 have that during the 8415 04:41:08,410 --> 04:41:08,675 presidential? 8416 04:41:08,675 --> 04:41:09,543 The other thing here is 8417 04:41:09,543 --> 04:41:10,310 what questions are going 8418 04:41:10,310 --> 04:41:11,440 to go in a gubernatorial 8419 04:41:11,440 --> 04:41:11,578 and what questions are 8420 04:41:11,578 --> 04:41:11,911 going to go in a 8421 04:41:11,911 --> 04:41:12,646 presidential? 8422 04:41:12,646 --> 04:41:13,546 >> we weren't thinking of 8423 04:41:13,546 --> 04:41:15,948 it as a discussion on 8424 04:41:15,948 --> 04:41:16,282 gubernatorial or 8425 04:41:16,282 --> 04:41:17,116 presidential. 8426 04:41:17,116 --> 04:41:17,951 It was which one should go 8427 04:41:17,951 --> 04:41:18,451 first and which one we 8428 04:41:18,451 --> 04:41:20,851 think should go second. 8429 04:41:29,328 --> 04:41:30,620 We were just certain they 8430 04:41:30,620 --> 04:41:30,362 should not both be on the 8431 04:41:30,362 --> 04:41:31,163 same ballot. 8432 04:41:31,163 --> 04:41:32,640 >> Raquel Regalado: okay. 8433 04:41:32,640 --> 04:41:32,764 >> if I could add a little 8434 04:41:32,764 --> 04:41:33,632 context on the difference 8435 04:41:33,632 --> 04:41:36,201 of why one wouldn't apply 8436 04:41:36,201 --> 04:41:36,401 right away and this one 8437 04:41:36,401 --> 04:41:37,202 would. 8438 04:41:37,202 --> 04:41:37,702 When we first started this 8439 04:41:37,702 --> 04:41:38,703 discussion before we 8440 04:41:38,703 --> 04:41:41,103 coherent around the salary 8441 04:41:42,807 --> 04:41:44,175 discussion, the 8442 04:41:44,175 --> 04:41:44,809 conversation had been it 8443 04:41:44,809 --> 04:41:45,709 shouldn't apply to anyone 8444 04:41:45,709 --> 04:41:46,610 who is currently sitting. 8445 04:41:46,610 --> 04:41:47,178 We had some discussions. 8446 04:41:47,178 --> 04:41:50,178 But when it became a 8447 04:41:52,115 --> 04:41:53,817 process with independent 8448 04:41:53,817 --> 04:41:54,718 -- with independent board 8449 04:41:54,718 --> 04:41:55,252 members or commissioners 8450 04:41:55,252 --> 04:41:56,185 who could also take into 8451 04:41:56,185 --> 04:41:57,854 account what your current 8452 04:41:57,854 --> 04:41:59,289 packages are and deciding 8453 04:41:59,289 --> 04:42:00,123 what the salaries should 8454 04:42:00,123 --> 04:42:03,723 be, we didn't think it was 8455 04:42:07,129 --> 04:42:08,564 as significantly knowing 8456 04:42:08,564 --> 04:42:09,131 that it would ultimately 8457 04:42:09,131 --> 04:42:09,932 be up to this board 8458 04:42:09,932 --> 04:42:10,499 whether you thought it was 8459 04:42:10,499 --> 04:42:11,433 significant to say it will 8460 04:42:11,433 --> 04:42:13,602 apply to immediately or 8461 04:42:13,602 --> 04:42:15,537 should be deferred to a 8462 04:42:15,537 --> 04:42:16,471 later effective date, but 8463 04:42:16,471 --> 04:42:16,772 that was part of the 8464 04:42:16,772 --> 04:42:17,439 discussion. 8465 04:42:17,439 --> 04:42:17,606 >> Raquel Regalado: thank 8466 04:42:17,606 --> 04:42:19,341 you. 8467 04:42:19,341 --> 04:42:21,341 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 8468 04:42:21,342 --> 04:42:24,846 I want to call a vote, but 8469 04:42:24,846 --> 04:42:25,790 here's -- here's the 8470 04:42:25,790 --> 04:42:27,790 problem. 8471 04:42:29,383 --> 04:42:30,384 O commissioner 8472 04:42:30,384 --> 04:42:32,384 bermudez's point about 8473 04:42:33,988 --> 04:42:34,722 soundbites. 8474 04:42:34,722 --> 04:42:35,456 Unfortunately, those that 8475 04:42:35,456 --> 04:42:37,456 report the soundbites 8476 04:42:55,974 --> 04:42:57,342 often don't do due 8477 04:42:57,342 --> 04:42:57,876 diligence. 8478 04:42:57,876 --> 04:42:58,770 They don't put in the 8479 04:42:58,770 --> 04:42:58,911 work. 8480 04:42:58,911 --> 04:42:59,645 For lack of better terms, 8481 04:42:59,645 --> 04:43:00,212 they are often lazy. 8482 04:43:00,212 --> 04:43:01,790 You know, it's easy -- 8483 04:43:01,790 --> 04:43:01,546 yeah, he's one of the ones 8484 04:43:01,546 --> 04:43:02,114 I'm talking about. 8485 04:43:02,114 --> 04:43:02,714 Here's the thing. 8486 04:43:02,714 --> 04:43:03,615 It's easy to say that, 8487 04:43:03,615 --> 04:43:03,815 that this shouldn't apply 8488 04:43:03,815 --> 04:43:04,516 to me. 8489 04:43:04,516 --> 04:43:05,183 I would support it. 8490 04:43:05,183 --> 04:43:05,884 But the reality is that 8491 04:43:05,884 --> 04:43:06,384 before my time on the 8492 04:43:06,384 --> 04:43:07,152 board four years or so 8493 04:43:07,152 --> 04:43:10,752 ago, there was an item on 8494 04:43:15,226 --> 04:43:15,859 this board that passed to 8495 04:43:15,859 --> 04:43:16,427 increase benefits to 8496 04:43:16,427 --> 04:43:17,228 commissioners and some 8497 04:43:17,228 --> 04:43:17,861 that are still sitting on 8498 04:43:17,861 --> 04:43:18,462 this board voted no on it, 8499 04:43:18,462 --> 04:43:19,530 but took the benefits. 8500 04:43:19,530 --> 04:43:19,930 you could -- you could opt 8501 04:43:19,930 --> 04:43:21,930 out of them. 8502 04:43:30,440 --> 04:43:31,740 So the same thing applies 8503 04:43:31,740 --> 04:43:31,941 to this very charter. 8504 04:43:31,941 --> 04:43:32,775 If you don't want it to 8505 04:43:32,775 --> 04:43:33,376 apply to your self, opt 8506 04:43:33,376 --> 04:43:34,430 out, but don't just give a 8507 04:43:34,430 --> 04:43:34,610 soundbite because that's 8508 04:43:34,610 --> 04:43:35,377 what's going to be tweeted 8509 04:43:35,377 --> 04:43:36,450 about were written about 8510 04:43:36,450 --> 04:43:39,582 and you could go say I 8511 04:43:39,582 --> 04:43:40,149 didn't support it. 8512 04:43:40,149 --> 04:43:40,683 No, you did support it 8513 04:43:40,683 --> 04:43:40,883 because you took the 8514 04:43:40,883 --> 04:43:42,883 money. 8515 04:43:46,154 --> 04:43:46,688 Ome of us might 8516 04:43:46,688 --> 04:43:47,289 not actually take the 8517 04:43:47,289 --> 04:43:48,256 money because we have 8518 04:43:48,256 --> 04:43:48,490 other businesses, we don't 8519 04:43:48,490 --> 04:43:50,158 need it. 8520 04:43:50,158 --> 04:43:50,792 But if you took it and 8521 04:43:50,792 --> 04:43:53,192 there is no difference. 8522 04:43:55,630 --> 04:43:55,796 So I understand the 8523 04:43:55,796 --> 04:43:58,320 so I understand the soundbites 8524 04:43:58,320 --> 04:43:58,666 from some of my colleagues. 8525 04:43:58,666 --> 04:43:59,667 Some of them were on this board 8526 04:43:59,667 --> 04:44:00,100 at that time four b 8527 04:44:00,100 --> 04:44:00,734 five years 8528 04:44:00,734 --> 04:44:03,971 ago. It was right before I got 8529 04:44:03,971 --> 04:44:08,171 on the board. And voted no and 8530 04:44:12,879 --> 04:44:13,580 still took it. So I appreciate 8531 04:44:13,580 --> 04:44:14,615 it but I'm with bermuda on 8532 04:44:14,615 --> 04:44:15,382 this. Let the voters decide 8533 04:44:15,382 --> 04:44:16,783 and gilbert let the voters 8534 04:44:16,783 --> 04:44:20,383 decide what they want to do 8535 04:44:20,720 --> 04:44:21,354 with our compensation and then 8536 04:44:21,354 --> 04:44:24,954 it doesn't end there. Then it 8537 04:44:26,425 --> 04:44:29,995 goes to another task force or 8538 04:44:29,995 --> 04:44:30,562 another committee that is 8539 04:44:30,562 --> 04:44:31,930 non-interested parties to 8540 04:44:31,930 --> 04:44:35,530 decide what is the most fair 8541 04:44:35,600 --> 04:44:38,000 compensation package for the 8542 04:44:39,738 --> 04:44:40,338 elected officials that 8543 04:44:40,338 --> 04:44:41,239 represent over 2.8 million 8544 04:44:41,239 --> 04:44:43,441 residents. The largest county 8545 04:44:43,441 --> 04:44:44,342 in the state of florida with 8546 04:44:44,342 --> 04:44:46,742 the lowest salary. That 8547 04:44:51,810 --> 04:44:52,490 doesn't -- does a lot of things 8548 04:44:52,490 --> 04:44:54,985 that were not talking about on 8549 04:44:54,985 --> 04:44:55,719 this dais. It is a devises 8550 04:44:55,719 --> 04:44:58,719 elected officials to have side 8551 04:44:59,389 --> 04:45:02,989 gigs, it is sent divide is 8552 04:45:04,394 --> 04:45:07,394 there -- incentivizes show they 8553 04:45:07,830 --> 04:45:10,230 have a reasonable, appropriate 8554 04:45:11,700 --> 04:45:12,434 salary, they MAY stick to what 8555 04:45:12,434 --> 04:45:16,340 they are doing. And focus on 8556 04:45:17,907 --> 04:45:18,574 that. Feel passionate about 8557 04:45:18,574 --> 04:45:19,342 this because I am with gilbert. 8558 04:45:19,342 --> 04:45:21,545 I think we need to open up the 8559 04:45:21,545 --> 04:45:24,414 pool of candidates to be able 8560 04:45:24,414 --> 04:45:28,614 to qualify and be able to take 8561 04:45:31,356 --> 04:45:32,256 on a roll of this magnitude to 8562 04:45:32,256 --> 04:45:33,124 the very same workers and 8563 04:45:33,124 --> 04:45:33,825 caliber of folks that he just 8564 04:45:33,825 --> 04:45:36,825 brought up. The blue color, 8565 04:45:37,729 --> 04:45:39,898 the teachers a lot of very well 8566 04:45:39,898 --> 04:45:40,866 educated folks that otherwise 8567 04:45:40,866 --> 04:45:44,466 cannot afford to sit on this 8568 04:45:45,104 --> 04:45:48,104 dais. Not own businesses like 8569 04:45:48,408 --> 04:45:49,342 myself, not all have other jobs 8570 04:45:49,342 --> 04:45:52,342 like others here and they 8571 04:45:56,785 --> 04:45:57,685 cannot afford it if it is not 8572 04:45:57,685 --> 04:45:58,786 for that. I understand this is 8573 04:45:58,786 --> 04:45:59,454 not on one particular person or 8574 04:45:59,454 --> 04:46:00,321 the other. The reality is if 8575 04:46:00,321 --> 04:46:02,657 you do not agree with it, if 8576 04:46:02,657 --> 04:46:03,658 you do not agree with the 8577 04:46:03,658 --> 04:46:04,359 voters, I mean it is almost 8578 04:46:04,359 --> 04:46:06,128 hypocritical. Let the voters 8579 04:46:06,128 --> 04:46:08,528 decide. And you're right 8580 04:46:10,332 --> 04:46:10,934 commissioner, it MAY not pass. 8581 04:46:10,934 --> 04:46:13,770 It just MAY not pass. The 8582 04:46:13,770 --> 04:46:14,804 rhetoric is going to be here 8583 04:46:14,804 --> 04:46:17,804 are the commissioners trying to 8584 04:46:18,876 --> 04:46:19,810 give themselves a raise. But 8585 04:46:19,810 --> 04:46:20,778 if someone took the time or the 8586 04:46:20,778 --> 04:46:21,879 effort or the investment to do 8587 04:46:21,879 --> 04:46:24,279 the campaign that commissioner 8588 04:46:31,230 --> 04:46:31,857 gilbert did and folks realize 8589 04:46:31,857 --> 04:46:32,558 that we do not get paid $1000 8590 04:46:32,558 --> 04:46:33,492 per month we get paid $500 a 8591 04:46:33,492 --> 04:46:34,526 month. Managing the largest 8592 04:46:34,526 --> 04:46:37,526 local budget in the entire 8593 04:46:38,631 --> 04:46:39,332 state of florida and larger 8594 04:46:39,332 --> 04:46:41,732 than 22 different states. We 8595 04:46:42,302 --> 04:46:45,302 have a larger budget then 20 8596 04:46:45,372 --> 04:46:46,340 something different states in 8597 04:46:46,340 --> 04:46:47,275 the entire country. I think 8598 04:46:47,275 --> 04:46:49,675 they would think differently 8599 04:46:51,313 --> 04:46:51,880 about that rhetoric of the 8600 04:46:51,880 --> 04:46:52,714 commissioners or the 8601 04:46:52,714 --> 04:46:54,782 politicians are trying to give 8602 04:46:54,782 --> 04:46:57,782 themselves a raise. I disagree 8603 04:47:00,122 --> 04:47:00,823 with those folks that spoke 8604 04:47:00,823 --> 04:47:04,394 against it. It is leaving it 8605 04:47:04,394 --> 04:47:04,994 up to the voters to decide. 8606 04:47:04,994 --> 04:47:06,994 Commissioner and then 8607 04:47:07,397 --> 04:47:09,397 steinberg. 8608 04:47:10,634 --> 04:47:11,368 >> I was listening to you guys 8609 04:47:11,368 --> 04:47:12,269 and I have news for you. Very 8610 04:47:12,269 --> 04:47:14,939 few people believe that we are 8611 04:47:14,939 --> 04:47:17,939 only make $6000 a year. Very 8612 04:47:22,347 --> 04:47:23,480 few. I agree with commissioner 8613 04:47:23,480 --> 04:47:24,583 gilbert on this because not 8614 04:47:24,583 --> 04:47:27,753 only that we need to make sure 8615 04:47:27,753 --> 04:47:30,924 we opened the doors for other 8616 04:47:30,924 --> 04:47:33,193 folks and commissioner gilbert 8617 04:47:33,193 --> 04:47:35,193 mentioned teachers, organizers 8618 04:47:35,528 --> 04:47:38,999 and all that we forgot the 8619 04:47:38,999 --> 04:47:39,900 young leaders. Look at the 8620 04:47:39,900 --> 04:47:42,900 young leaders sitting here. We 8621 04:47:43,304 --> 04:47:46,904 would like to create a space 8622 04:47:49,478 --> 04:47:50,612 where they would decide to 8623 04:47:50,612 --> 04:47:51,280 become a commissioner. We need 8624 04:47:51,280 --> 04:47:54,349 young voices, we need to open 8625 04:47:54,349 --> 04:47:55,251 up spaces for young voices. I 8626 04:47:55,251 --> 04:47:55,919 am comfortable with the fact 8627 04:47:55,919 --> 04:47:56,853 that the voters will decide. 8628 04:47:56,853 --> 04:48:00,323 But I believe also that there 8629 04:48:00,323 --> 04:48:01,191 has to be some real education 8630 04:48:01,191 --> 04:48:05,391 because I am telling you and I 8631 04:48:05,830 --> 04:48:06,531 am serious. Commissioner, you 8632 04:48:06,531 --> 04:48:10,131 are making all of this money 8633 04:48:11,536 --> 04:48:12,237 and they really believe that. 8634 04:48:12,237 --> 04:48:13,204 We are making a lot of money 8635 04:48:13,204 --> 04:48:16,204 like $100,000 a year. So there 8636 04:48:19,778 --> 04:48:20,546 has to be some kind of 8637 04:48:20,546 --> 04:48:21,448 education and to make sure that 8638 04:48:21,448 --> 04:48:22,314 the voters go to vote they know 8639 04:48:22,314 --> 04:48:25,314 what they are voting for. 8640 04:48:38,733 --> 04:48:39,601 Right now most of the people 8641 04:48:39,601 --> 04:48:40,368 when I tell them what I make 8642 04:48:40,368 --> 04:48:41,136 they do not believe me. $6000 8643 04:48:41,136 --> 04:48:42,370 a year, that is not true. They 8644 04:48:42,370 --> 04:48:42,837 don't believe it. I'm 8645 04:48:42,837 --> 04:48:43,638 comfortable with the fact that 8646 04:48:43,638 --> 04:48:44,573 the voters will decide that 8647 04:48:44,573 --> 04:48:45,675 they have to be educated. They 8648 04:48:45,675 --> 04:48:46,576 have to be informed. Out reach 8649 04:48:46,576 --> 04:48:47,430 would play an important role. 8650 04:48:47,430 --> 04:48:48,440 thank you so much. 8651 04:48:48,440 --> 04:48:49,345 >> thank you commissioner. 8652 04:48:49,345 --> 04:48:50,120 >> I want clarity to put it 8653 04:48:50,120 --> 04:48:50,613 into posture, this is not about 8654 04:48:50,613 --> 04:48:51,248 any sort of salary. This is 8655 04:48:51,248 --> 04:48:54,248 just about taking the ability 8656 04:48:54,451 --> 04:48:55,118 and the charting today for the 8657 04:48:55,118 --> 04:48:58,118 people to vote on whatever 8658 04:48:58,856 --> 04:49:02,456 salary would be. I am putting 8659 04:49:02,727 --> 04:49:03,394 it in a separate commission. 8660 04:49:03,394 --> 04:49:03,961 None of this other stuff I just 8661 04:49:03,961 --> 04:49:07,499 want to make clear is that 8662 04:49:07,499 --> 04:49:08,330 correct? 8663 04:49:08,330 --> 04:49:09,000 >> it is correct. 8664 04:49:09,000 --> 04:49:11,000 >> thank you. 8665 04:49:18,780 --> 04:49:19,713 >> anyone else? Seeing none 8666 04:49:19,713 --> 04:49:20,346 all in for in favor signify the 8667 04:49:20,346 --> 04:49:22,182 same aye. All opposed say nay. 8668 04:49:22,182 --> 04:49:25,782 Show the item passes. You got 8669 04:49:27,355 --> 04:49:29,755 them? 11 a 16. I have 8670 04:49:29,824 --> 04:49:31,824 commissioner from district 4 8671 04:49:35,630 --> 04:49:35,764 and from district 8. You 8672 04:49:35,764 --> 04:49:36,732 recognize that mike recognized. 8673 04:49:36,732 --> 04:49:40,332 >> I would like to defer to 8674 04:49:44,274 --> 04:49:44,974 the commissioner who sponsored 8675 04:49:44,974 --> 04:49:45,943 and then I will make my remark. 8676 04:49:45,943 --> 04:49:46,877 >> thank you MR. Chair and 8677 04:49:46,877 --> 04:49:47,844 thank you commissioner 8678 04:49:47,844 --> 04:49:48,912 steinberg. I do have a brief 8679 04:49:48,912 --> 04:49:50,881 amendment to the item hopefully 8680 04:49:50,881 --> 04:49:51,883 we will address potentially 8681 04:49:51,883 --> 04:49:52,449 commissioner steinberg. With 8682 04:49:52,449 --> 04:49:54,849 the attorney please read 8683 04:49:56,254 --> 04:49:57,422 amendment. 8684 04:49:57,422 --> 04:49:59,422 >> commissioner cohen higgins 8685 04:50:01,660 --> 04:50:04,660 to amend the proposed changes 8686 04:50:06,633 --> 04:50:07,500 to 6.08 of the homeroom charter 8687 04:50:07,500 --> 04:50:08,601 attachment eight will take 8688 04:50:08,601 --> 04:50:10,436 effect on JUNE 1, 2027 rather 8689 04:50:10,436 --> 04:50:11,380 than immediately following the 8690 04:50:11,380 --> 04:50:11,605 2026 general election. The 8691 04:50:11,605 --> 04:50:13,606 county attorney is hereby 8692 04:50:13,606 --> 04:50:16,600 directly to make conforming 8693 04:50:19,345 --> 04:50:20,347 change, ballot language and 8694 04:50:20,347 --> 04:50:22,716 legally for the effective date. 8695 04:50:22,716 --> 04:50:23,951 >> it came from the league of 8696 04:50:23,951 --> 04:50:24,918 cities indicating that 8697 04:50:24,918 --> 04:50:27,318 apparently certain dates had 8698 04:50:32,560 --> 04:50:33,360 already been published for 8699 04:50:33,360 --> 04:50:34,127 their upcoming municipal 8700 04:50:34,127 --> 04:50:35,620 elections. We wanted to amend 8701 04:50:35,620 --> 04:50:35,863 it to allow a later start date 8702 04:50:35,863 --> 04:50:38,265 so they would not have to 8703 04:50:38,265 --> 04:50:39,320 republish those election dates. 8704 04:50:39,320 --> 04:50:40,468 Thank you MR. Chair and I move 8705 04:50:40,468 --> 04:50:41,469 11 816. 8706 04:50:41,469 --> 04:50:44,469 >> it has been moved and 8707 04:50:49,777 --> 04:50:50,712 seconded as amended. And 8708 04:50:50,712 --> 04:50:51,460 commissioner steinberg you are 8709 04:50:51,460 --> 04:50:51,946 recognized. 8710 04:50:51,946 --> 04:50:52,714 >> we are dealing with I think 8711 04:50:52,714 --> 04:50:55,383 one of the most important 8712 04:50:55,383 --> 04:50:58,383 questions because this is going 8713 04:50:59,686 --> 04:51:00,355 to come up more often as we 8714 04:51:00,355 --> 04:51:01,590 have term limits. This is a 8715 04:51:01,590 --> 04:51:03,258 great items I want to commend 8716 04:51:03,258 --> 04:51:06,258 dennis and everybody worked on 8717 04:51:08,596 --> 04:51:09,964 the board on the task force for 8718 04:51:09,964 --> 04:51:10,465 the charter review committee. 8719 04:51:10,465 --> 04:51:13,465 Our charter is the most 8720 04:51:13,735 --> 04:51:14,369 important thing and you will 8721 04:51:14,369 --> 04:51:15,270 see, I pulled a lot of this 8722 04:51:15,270 --> 04:51:16,905 items because I feel like it 8723 04:51:16,905 --> 04:51:17,572 required a time. Only because 8724 04:51:17,572 --> 04:51:20,572 this is the most important 8725 04:51:23,845 --> 04:51:24,813 document that we have. The 8726 04:51:24,813 --> 04:51:25,781 chart is very important and the 8727 04:51:25,781 --> 04:51:26,447 only way to change a charter is 8728 04:51:26,447 --> 04:51:27,382 by a vote of the people. We 8729 04:51:27,382 --> 04:51:28,316 need to make sure we are really 8730 04:51:28,316 --> 04:51:29,217 being thoughtful what we put 8731 04:51:29,217 --> 04:51:30,953 forward. And in this case, I 8732 04:51:30,953 --> 04:51:31,520 think this is a really great 8733 04:51:31,520 --> 04:51:32,454 example of giving the 8734 04:51:32,454 --> 04:51:34,454 commission flexibility to 8735 04:51:38,600 --> 04:51:38,994 actually allow for a feeling of 8736 04:51:38,994 --> 04:51:39,661 a vacancy with an election. 8737 04:51:39,661 --> 04:51:41,730 Right? This is a wonderful 8738 04:51:41,730 --> 04:51:45,330 piece of item to put forward. 8739 04:51:45,901 --> 04:51:47,903 Having said that, I wanted to 8740 04:51:47,903 --> 04:51:51,503 get a little clarity because I 8741 04:51:55,144 --> 04:51:56,450 love the amendment that you 8742 04:51:56,450 --> 04:51:56,646 made commissioner cohen 8743 04:51:56,646 --> 04:51:57,413 higgins. There are other 8744 04:51:57,413 --> 04:51:58,314 cities that get caught in this. 8745 04:51:58,314 --> 04:52:01,914 This is really the spirit of 8746 04:52:05,855 --> 04:52:06,823 debris -- to run for the state. 8747 04:52:06,823 --> 04:52:07,489 To make the determination at 8748 04:52:07,489 --> 04:52:08,324 the right time that we can't 8749 04:52:08,324 --> 04:52:10,724 piggyback an election as 8750 04:52:18,134 --> 04:52:19,350 opposed to it coming up at some 8751 04:52:19,350 --> 04:52:19,802 other time and then we are left 8752 04:52:19,802 --> 04:52:20,671 with less option. This gives 8753 04:52:20,671 --> 04:52:21,605 us flexibility. We can still 8754 04:52:21,605 --> 04:52:22,206 appoint if we want to but it 8755 04:52:22,206 --> 04:52:23,140 does give us the ability to 8756 04:52:23,140 --> 04:52:24,700 have an election. But because 8757 04:52:24,700 --> 04:52:24,675 you have municipalities that 8758 04:52:24,675 --> 04:52:25,542 also have elections in odd 8759 04:52:25,542 --> 04:52:27,277 years which really I think this 8760 04:52:27,277 --> 04:52:28,511 would cover I was wondering if 8761 04:52:28,511 --> 04:52:32,111 you all would be amenable to 8762 04:52:33,500 --> 04:52:33,784 striking the language of the 8763 04:52:33,784 --> 04:52:34,752 qualifying mayor cava update so 8764 04:52:34,752 --> 04:52:38,952 it truly align so we are not 8765 04:52:40,230 --> 04:52:40,725 tied into changing 30 other 8766 04:52:40,725 --> 04:52:41,258 municipal charters who MAY have 8767 04:52:41,258 --> 04:52:43,658 their qualifying date to 8768 04:52:44,195 --> 04:52:46,529 change. So is still states 8769 04:52:46,529 --> 04:52:50,129 with the. -- spirit of the 8770 04:52:51,302 --> 04:52:52,303 item. Without having 8771 04:52:52,303 --> 04:52:53,337 unintended consequences of the 8772 04:52:53,337 --> 04:52:54,371 charters of municipalities that 8773 04:52:54,371 --> 04:52:57,971 MAY have not been thought of. 8774 04:53:02,147 --> 04:53:03,810 Would you commissioner cohen 8775 04:53:03,810 --> 04:53:03,848 higgins be amenable? It 8776 04:53:03,848 --> 04:53:04,649 doesn't change any of the items 8777 04:53:04,649 --> 04:53:05,183 except it strikes out the 8778 04:53:05,183 --> 04:53:05,316 conforming of the 70 b 8779 04:53:05,316 --> 04:53:07,316 84. 8780 04:53:08,452 --> 04:53:11,323 What is the language again? 8781 04:53:11,323 --> 04:53:13,323 >> your proposed amendment 8782 04:53:17,161 --> 04:53:18,162 4-1-1 a 16 to eliminate the 8783 04:53:18,162 --> 04:53:18,796 minimal municipal and remove 8784 04:53:18,796 --> 04:53:21,196 the qualifying changes to 6.08 8785 04:53:22,568 --> 04:53:23,100 of the homeroom charter shown 8786 04:53:23,100 --> 04:53:23,935 in section a. 8787 04:53:23,935 --> 04:53:26,871 >> the reason I say this is 8788 04:53:26,871 --> 04:53:27,772 because my only concern is that 8789 04:53:27,772 --> 04:53:28,740 we are still going to have a 8790 04:53:28,740 --> 04:53:31,430 situation. I will use one of 8791 04:53:31,430 --> 04:53:32,244 the cities I represent. They 8792 04:53:32,244 --> 04:53:33,245 have elections in NOVEMBER 8793 04:53:33,245 --> 04:53:34,120 cities I represent. They have 8794 04:53:34,120 --> 04:53:36,120 elections in NOVEMBER 2027. 8795 04:53:37,849 --> 04:53:38,583 The qualifying isn't until 8796 04:53:38,583 --> 04:53:39,651 SEPTEMBER. This will move them 8797 04:53:39,651 --> 04:53:40,319 to an AUGUST qualifying. Okay? 8798 04:53:40,319 --> 04:53:42,719 What happens if the 8799 04:53:43,890 --> 04:53:45,489 commissioner wants or anybody 8800 04:53:45,624 --> 04:53:48,393 or maybe we had a situation 8801 04:53:48,393 --> 04:53:50,940 with miami recently. There is 8802 04:53:50,940 --> 04:53:53,940 a qualifying from when they 8803 04:53:56,635 --> 04:53:57,470 submit the note. That will 8804 04:53:57,470 --> 04:53:58,437 make it so that now they are 8805 04:53:58,437 --> 04:53:59,471 qualifying is going to be in 8806 04:53:59,471 --> 04:54:00,500 AUGUST. If you have a NOVEMBER 8807 04:54:00,500 --> 04:54:01,700 election based on our 8808 04:54:01,700 --> 04:54:02,909 guidelines, we would have to 8809 04:54:02,909 --> 04:54:05,909 force them to have their 8810 04:54:08,814 --> 04:54:09,815 qualifying in AUGUST which MAY 8811 04:54:09,815 --> 04:54:10,750 work for some. But then we are 8812 04:54:10,750 --> 04:54:11,451 going to have to have a special 8813 04:54:11,451 --> 04:54:12,418 meeting in AUGUST which I am 8814 04:54:12,418 --> 04:54:14,688 happy to do. I want everybody 8815 04:54:14,688 --> 04:54:15,688 to know what the domino effect 8816 04:54:15,688 --> 04:54:17,456 of that could be. When make it 8817 04:54:17,456 --> 04:54:18,224 easier for us to be able to 8818 04:54:18,224 --> 04:54:20,160 fill with an election but I 8819 04:54:20,160 --> 04:54:22,462 want to make sure we do it with 8820 04:54:22,462 --> 04:54:24,862 that in our forefront. 8821 04:54:25,432 --> 04:54:27,432 >> all right so. 8822 04:54:29,335 --> 04:54:31,735 >> I am totally confused. 8823 04:54:32,873 --> 04:54:33,907 This is totally confusing. 8824 04:54:33,907 --> 04:54:36,976 Listen, if I MAY MR. Chair? My 8825 04:54:36,976 --> 04:54:39,976 question is because now I'm 8826 04:54:41,480 --> 04:54:44,648 very confused. Is it our job 8827 04:54:46,530 --> 04:54:46,820 if someone wants to run for one 8828 04:54:46,820 --> 04:54:47,688 of these position is protected? 8829 04:54:47,688 --> 04:54:49,222 I don't think so with respect 8830 04:54:49,222 --> 04:54:50,191 to the league of cities. I 8831 04:54:50,191 --> 04:54:53,791 don't think it is our job 8832 04:54:55,463 --> 04:54:56,296 personally. Number two, I am 8833 04:54:56,296 --> 04:54:56,964 going to support the memo 8834 04:54:56,964 --> 04:55:00,564 because there seems to be a 8835 04:55:00,869 --> 04:55:01,436 reason the league has spoken to 8836 04:55:01,436 --> 04:55:03,436 commissioner. This is 8837 04:55:06,741 --> 04:55:07,475 basically saying and you know 8838 04:55:07,475 --> 04:55:08,309 unfortunately or fortunately 8839 04:55:08,309 --> 04:55:09,843 some of you have been here that 8840 04:55:09,843 --> 04:55:12,843 have been appointed. Some of 8841 04:55:13,748 --> 04:55:14,549 you have not and some of us 8842 04:55:14,549 --> 04:55:15,250 have not and that is the way 8843 04:55:15,250 --> 04:55:17,180 goes. In the long run this 8844 04:55:17,180 --> 04:55:18,553 will lead to this body saying 8845 04:55:18,553 --> 04:55:22,753 okay there's going to be in an 8846 04:55:26,594 --> 04:55:27,228 election in a certain time 8847 04:55:27,228 --> 04:55:28,163 period. How does this bring 8848 04:55:28,163 --> 04:55:31,763 into is somebody in the cities 8849 04:55:32,267 --> 04:55:33,268 that want to run? In there is 8850 04:55:33,268 --> 04:55:34,369 any of you leaving so I can be 8851 04:55:34,369 --> 04:55:35,303 with you? Truthfully because 8852 04:55:35,303 --> 04:55:38,506 it is really confusing to me. 8853 04:55:38,506 --> 04:55:42,106 I don't understand how we got 8854 04:55:42,811 --> 04:55:43,110 into this municipal aspect of 8855 04:55:43,110 --> 04:55:44,313 it? 8856 04:55:44,313 --> 04:55:47,913 >> no, I think the impetus is 8857 04:55:48,416 --> 04:55:49,417 that there were many different 8858 04:55:49,417 --> 04:55:50,253 items that they found over the 8859 04:55:50,253 --> 04:55:53,853 years that they have been able 8860 04:55:58,660 --> 04:55:59,395 to fix in terms of feeling of 8861 04:55:59,395 --> 04:56:00,620 vacancy. One thing that was 8862 04:56:00,620 --> 04:56:01,664 overlooked was feeling a 8863 04:56:01,664 --> 04:56:02,298 vacancy and I do not want to 8864 04:56:02,298 --> 04:56:02,932 speak with the sponsor for the 8865 04:56:02,932 --> 04:56:03,499 board and maybe dennis you want 8866 04:56:03,499 --> 04:56:04,133 to give us some of the 8867 04:56:04,133 --> 04:56:04,867 background? It is to give us 8868 04:56:04,867 --> 04:56:07,867 before when you submitted your 8869 04:56:15,545 --> 04:56:16,412 your -- dear revocable letter 8870 04:56:16,412 --> 04:56:17,413 of resignation, we were not 8871 04:56:17,413 --> 04:56:18,314 able to call a timely election 8872 04:56:18,314 --> 04:56:19,248 to piggyback on what was 8873 04:56:19,248 --> 04:56:21,618 happening. Okay? This gives 8874 04:56:21,618 --> 04:56:22,552 us the flexibility to be able 8875 04:56:22,552 --> 04:56:26,523 to do that. This is a good 8876 04:56:26,523 --> 04:56:27,190 piece of an amendment having 8877 04:56:27,190 --> 04:56:30,560 said that taking a closer look 8878 04:56:30,560 --> 04:56:34,697 at the maybe perhaps we want to 8879 04:56:34,697 --> 04:56:35,399 take away another impediment of 8880 04:56:35,399 --> 04:56:36,366 windows qualifying dates or 8881 04:56:36,366 --> 04:56:37,534 others will be? If we fill the 8882 04:56:37,534 --> 04:56:41,734 vacancy here it is just to fill 8883 04:56:43,400 --> 04:56:43,974 the vacancy here. It is fine 8884 04:56:43,974 --> 04:56:44,775 if you want to keep it with the 8885 04:56:44,775 --> 04:56:45,809 effective date. Maybe dennis 8886 04:56:45,809 --> 04:56:49,409 you can give us some clarity? 8887 04:56:49,813 --> 04:56:52,213 >> yes commissioner. So this 8888 04:56:55,119 --> 04:56:55,753 sleight of amendments was 8889 04:56:55,753 --> 04:56:56,620 actually occasioned by an 8890 04:56:56,620 --> 04:56:57,387 occurrence during our 8891 04:56:57,387 --> 04:56:59,220 deliberation which was the city 8892 04:56:59,220 --> 04:56:59,723 of miami elections and 8893 04:56:59,723 --> 04:57:02,126 appointment on this site. The 8894 04:57:02,126 --> 04:57:02,994 work discussions about how to 8895 04:57:02,994 --> 04:57:05,620 handle that for the future to 8896 04:57:05,620 --> 04:57:06,330 make sure that there was time 8897 04:57:06,330 --> 04:57:08,730 for the county commission 8898 04:57:09,533 --> 04:57:13,133 should it want to hold an 8899 04:57:13,271 --> 04:57:13,905 election rather than 8900 04:57:13,905 --> 04:57:14,872 appointment to have time to 8901 04:57:14,872 --> 04:57:17,740 line up with the election that 8902 04:57:17,740 --> 04:57:18,800 was going rather than have to 8903 04:57:18,800 --> 04:57:21,790 doing it at a special day. 8904 04:57:21,790 --> 04:57:24,115 This was a reaction to an 8905 04:57:24,115 --> 04:57:25,350 occurrence. By the way do 8906 04:57:25,350 --> 04:57:29,550 credit to iris who was the one 8907 04:57:34,127 --> 04:57:34,760 who led these amendments. 8908 04:57:34,760 --> 04:57:35,760 Since I'm giving credit to 8909 04:57:35,760 --> 04:57:37,595 other task force members. This 8910 04:57:37,595 --> 04:57:40,595 was a package. These two 8911 04:57:44,703 --> 04:57:45,703 worked together to make sure 8912 04:57:45,703 --> 04:57:46,571 that this board has the ability 8913 04:57:46,571 --> 04:57:48,407 to call an election that is 8914 04:57:48,407 --> 04:57:49,107 aligned with the already 8915 04:57:49,107 --> 04:57:51,107 scheduled general election. 8916 04:57:51,444 --> 04:57:54,346 Which was unable to be done 8917 04:57:54,346 --> 04:57:58,546 with the city of miami. I know 8918 04:57:59,510 --> 04:57:59,718 other supervisor counsel is 8919 04:57:59,718 --> 04:58:00,686 here if you have question that 8920 04:58:00,686 --> 04:58:04,286 you want to direct them, they 8921 04:58:04,323 --> 04:58:04,957 have more technical input on 8922 04:58:04,957 --> 04:58:05,558 it. That was the genesis of it 8923 04:58:05,558 --> 04:58:05,791 so it was very much a package 8924 04:58:05,791 --> 04:58:07,791 deal. 8925 04:58:16,301 --> 04:58:16,602 >> okay all right commissioner 8926 04:58:16,602 --> 04:58:17,436 bermudez. 8927 04:58:17,436 --> 04:58:18,303 >> cities have their own 8928 04:58:18,303 --> 04:58:19,438 charters and I just want to be 8929 04:58:19,438 --> 04:58:22,438 clear. If anybody in a 8930 04:58:24,311 --> 04:58:25,344 municipality, it is not ours 8931 04:58:25,344 --> 04:58:26,120 possibility to change their 8932 04:58:26,120 --> 04:58:26,879 charter. It is the citizens of 8933 04:58:26,879 --> 04:58:29,549 those cities as they did in 8934 04:58:29,549 --> 04:58:30,417 miami gardens and they changed 8935 04:58:30,417 --> 04:58:32,953 the charter after the fact that 8936 04:58:32,953 --> 04:58:35,953 they show choose. Just one 8937 04:58:38,491 --> 04:58:39,158 last thing commissioner 8938 04:58:39,158 --> 04:58:40,194 steinberg the most important 8939 04:58:40,194 --> 04:58:43,163 part of our charters the bill 8940 04:58:43,163 --> 04:58:46,763 of rights. Being one of the 8941 04:58:50,700 --> 04:58:50,971 few lawyers that sued over the 8942 04:58:50,971 --> 04:58:52,600 bill of rights I think that is 8943 04:58:52,600 --> 04:58:52,973 the most important part of this 8944 04:58:52,973 --> 04:58:55,373 charter. It gives citizens 10 8945 04:58:57,344 --> 04:58:57,944 points that they are very clear 8946 04:58:57,944 --> 04:58:58,812 that the user charter when 8947 04:58:58,812 --> 04:59:00,715 asked the question that the 8948 04:59:00,715 --> 04:59:01,482 weight is body on the mayor 8949 04:59:01,482 --> 04:59:03,183 operates. To me that is the 8950 04:59:03,183 --> 04:59:03,451 most horton part of the 8951 04:59:03,451 --> 04:59:05,451 charter. 8952 04:59:08,355 --> 04:59:09,289 >> all right so we have it 8953 04:59:09,289 --> 04:59:10,570 moved by commissioner cohen 8954 04:59:10,570 --> 04:59:13,657 higgins as amended and we have 8955 04:59:17,732 --> 04:59:18,799 a second by, you amended it? 8956 04:59:18,799 --> 04:59:19,533 >> she amended it to change 8957 04:59:19,533 --> 04:59:21,533 the effective date. 8958 04:59:21,970 --> 04:59:23,204 > all right moved by you 8959 04:59:23,204 --> 04:59:24,172 but amended and seconded by 8960 04:59:24,172 --> 04:59:26,207 commissioner bermudez. Are we 8961 04:59:26,207 --> 04:59:28,509 good? All in favor signify by 8962 04:59:28,509 --> 04:59:29,760 saying aye. 8963 04:59:29,760 --> 04:59:30,945 >> aye. 8964 04:59:30,945 --> 04:59:33,945 >> all opposed say nay. Show 8965 04:59:38,253 --> 04:59:39,420 it pass. We have steinberg 8966 04:59:39,420 --> 04:59:41,420 commissioner regalado and 8967 04:59:41,457 --> 04:59:43,457 garcia. 8968 04:59:44,860 --> 04:59:45,827 >> and by the way I will say 8969 04:59:45,827 --> 04:59:48,227 they are both important 8970 04:59:48,997 --> 04:59:51,997 documents, I agree. Which one 8971 04:59:53,680 --> 04:59:54,360 is this one? 8972 04:59:54,360 --> 04:59:55,738 >> annexations. 8973 04:59:55,738 --> 04:59:58,738 >> yes, okay. So that's when 8974 05:00:02,445 --> 05:00:03,379 I thought was very interesting. 8975 05:00:03,379 --> 05:00:04,346 I can support it in a form to 8976 05:00:04,346 --> 05:00:08,546 place in the charter for a few 8977 05:00:12,288 --> 05:00:12,989 reasons. One is that we have 8978 05:00:12,989 --> 05:00:13,856 currently have a planning and 8979 05:00:13,856 --> 05:00:16,580 zoning board that deal with 8980 05:00:16,580 --> 05:00:16,625 these issues already. Now we 8981 05:00:16,625 --> 05:00:18,894 are going to create another 8982 05:00:18,894 --> 05:00:19,495 board to deal with this? And 8983 05:00:19,495 --> 05:00:23,950 then is going to happen every 8984 05:00:25,802 --> 05:00:26,769 three years. Sometimes I feel 8985 05:00:26,769 --> 05:00:27,737 like some of these things come 8986 05:00:27,737 --> 05:00:28,271 up before three year cycles and 8987 05:00:28,271 --> 05:00:29,205 we want to have these 8988 05:00:29,205 --> 05:00:30,273 discussions. And then there is 8989 05:00:30,273 --> 05:00:31,174 another issue that I feel that 8990 05:00:31,174 --> 05:00:31,975 now we are also giving weight 8991 05:00:31,975 --> 05:00:35,575 to MAY be some property owners 8992 05:00:36,212 --> 05:00:36,846 that by the way should have a 8993 05:00:36,846 --> 05:00:39,616 stake in this. But we are 8994 05:00:39,616 --> 05:00:42,616 taking away more of the 8995 05:00:44,354 --> 05:00:45,210 resident voice. By putting it 8996 05:00:45,210 --> 05:00:45,889 in this manner. I don't know I 8997 05:00:45,889 --> 05:00:46,857 can support something that is 8998 05:00:46,857 --> 05:00:47,457 going to in my mind we can some 8999 05:00:47,457 --> 05:00:50,457 of the residential voices on 9000 05:00:59,469 --> 05:01:00,103 whether or not they want 9001 05:01:00,103 --> 05:01:00,938 annexations. And by the way 9002 05:01:00,938 --> 05:01:01,639 today we do it by ordinance. 9003 05:01:01,639 --> 05:01:02,473 This goes into the charter. If 9004 05:01:02,473 --> 05:01:03,374 you ever want to change this 9005 05:01:03,374 --> 05:01:04,107 again had to go back out to the 9006 05:01:04,107 --> 05:01:06,310 people to change it. We don't 9007 05:01:06,310 --> 05:01:07,277 have that flexibility to see 9008 05:01:07,277 --> 05:01:12,770 where we want to go in terms of 9009 05:01:13,884 --> 05:01:14,619 these issues. For those 9010 05:01:14,619 --> 05:01:15,419 reasons, I can't support it in 9011 05:01:15,419 --> 05:01:16,420 this form. Thank you. 9012 05:01:16,420 --> 05:01:17,121 >> commissioner from district 9013 05:01:17,121 --> 05:01:19,121 7, you are recognized. 9014 05:01:21,593 --> 05:01:24,593 >> I think to mickey! The 9015 05:01:26,330 --> 05:01:27,398 situation with the annexation 9016 05:01:27,398 --> 05:01:27,999 is already complicated enough. 9017 05:01:27,999 --> 05:01:28,866 I feel like we are doing 9018 05:01:28,866 --> 05:01:31,866 another thing. I said it 9019 05:01:31,869 --> 05:01:32,370 before if we want to do a 9020 05:01:32,370 --> 05:01:33,304 moratorium let's do a 9021 05:01:33,304 --> 05:01:36,304 moratorium. If you want to 9022 05:01:38,142 --> 05:01:38,976 change the roach -- rules, 9023 05:01:38,976 --> 05:01:40,110 change the rules. Another 9024 05:01:40,110 --> 05:01:43,110 thing that will accommodate the 9025 05:01:45,350 --> 05:01:45,917 situation, again we had these 9026 05:01:45,917 --> 05:01:46,818 issues term limits where 9027 05:01:46,818 --> 05:01:47,886 lingers for years and years. 9028 05:01:47,886 --> 05:01:51,900 It seems to be another way to 9029 05:01:51,900 --> 05:01:51,790 further complicate the 9030 05:01:51,790 --> 05:01:53,258 situation. I am a no on this 9031 05:01:53,258 --> 05:01:55,258 one. 9032 05:01:59,970 --> 05:02:00,166 >> senator. 9033 05:02:00,166 --> 05:02:02,566 >> thank you MR. Commissioner 9034 05:02:02,701 --> 05:02:06,301 for the same reasons I think 9035 05:02:06,839 --> 05:02:10,439 that when we look at annexation 9036 05:02:14,546 --> 05:02:15,448 think the process is obligated 9037 05:02:15,448 --> 05:02:16,810 enough. We have safeguards in 9038 05:02:16,810 --> 05:02:17,160 place and it is adding more 9039 05:02:17,160 --> 05:02:19,619 hurdles and making it more 9040 05:02:19,619 --> 05:02:22,190 difficult for municipalities to 9041 05:02:26,391 --> 05:02:27,125 annex I think this is an 9042 05:02:27,125 --> 05:02:27,892 overreach to put that in the 9043 05:02:27,892 --> 05:02:28,426 charter and it will make it 9044 05:02:28,426 --> 05:02:29,461 more difficult for 9045 05:02:29,461 --> 05:02:32,461 municipalities to try to create 9046 05:02:32,463 --> 05:02:32,897 annexations. So I too will be 9047 05:02:32,897 --> 05:02:34,966 a no on this one. 9048 05:02:34,966 --> 05:02:37,966 > thank you senator I will 9049 05:02:41,905 --> 05:02:42,606 have commissioner from district 9050 05:02:42,606 --> 05:02:43,574 6. Next thank you MR. Chair. I 9051 05:02:43,574 --> 05:02:44,441 have a question for dennis. 9052 05:02:44,441 --> 05:02:45,142 What was the rationale from the 9053 05:02:45,142 --> 05:02:48,142 task force from removing it 9054 05:02:57,120 --> 05:02:57,954 from the planning advisory 9055 05:02:57,954 --> 05:02:58,821 board and creating a separate 9056 05:02:58,821 --> 05:02:59,588 boundary commission? 9057 05:02:59,588 --> 05:03:00,756 >> the planning board already 9058 05:03:00,756 --> 05:03:01,690 have a lot of responsibilities. 9059 05:03:01,690 --> 05:03:02,491 The idea was have one body that 9060 05:03:02,491 --> 05:03:03,125 is charged with giving a 9061 05:03:03,125 --> 05:03:04,590 comprehensive review of 9062 05:03:04,590 --> 05:03:05,160 whatever is pending. We went 9063 05:03:05,160 --> 05:03:06,161 through different iterations of 9064 05:03:06,161 --> 05:03:07,129 how long the cycle should be. 9065 05:03:07,129 --> 05:03:08,300 The idea was to have one body 9066 05:03:08,300 --> 05:03:11,300 that is experienced with the 9067 05:03:13,335 --> 05:03:14,469 boundary change procedures and 9068 05:03:14,469 --> 05:03:15,336 the incorporation procedures 9069 05:03:15,336 --> 05:03:16,400 and issues to look at it 9070 05:03:16,400 --> 05:03:16,904 countywide to be able to say 9071 05:03:16,904 --> 05:03:17,739 maybe it makes sense to move 9072 05:03:17,739 --> 05:03:21,339 here maybe not here want to 9073 05:03:21,542 --> 05:03:24,542 balance it out. And that 9074 05:03:27,314 --> 05:03:28,115 should be done on a three-year 9075 05:03:28,115 --> 05:03:29,490 cycle so this board can get a 9076 05:03:29,490 --> 05:03:29,750 comprehensive report of 9077 05:03:29,750 --> 05:03:30,284 everything that is pending. 9078 05:03:30,284 --> 05:03:32,284 >> thank you. 9079 05:03:33,219 --> 05:03:35,619 >> I have commissioner from 9080 05:03:42,661 --> 05:03:43,329 district 12. And I am going to 9081 05:03:43,329 --> 05:03:44,230 one and then vice chair. 9082 05:03:44,230 --> 05:03:45,798 >> MR. Chair, thank you. I 9083 05:03:45,798 --> 05:03:48,798 was going into this but 9084 05:03:50,135 --> 05:03:51,169 commissioner steinberg has 9085 05:03:51,169 --> 05:03:54,506 convinced me to go to the other 9086 05:03:54,506 --> 05:03:56,906 direction. With her points. 9087 05:03:59,411 --> 05:04:00,278 And let me tell you and why 9088 05:04:00,278 --> 05:04:02,678 replacing the plan advisory 9089 05:04:04,449 --> 05:04:05,450 board? When I was the plan 9090 05:04:05,450 --> 05:04:07,850 advisory board they voted 6/1 9091 05:04:09,753 --> 05:04:11,355 to incorporate or to move 9092 05:04:11,355 --> 05:04:14,355 forward and collect the two 9093 05:04:15,726 --> 05:04:16,627 cities to get out in the county 9094 05:04:16,627 --> 05:04:17,260 and then give the owners an 9095 05:04:17,260 --> 05:04:20,163 opportunity to add least weigh 9096 05:04:20,163 --> 05:04:21,131 in. I would appreciate 9097 05:04:21,131 --> 05:04:22,332 commissioner regalado who came 9098 05:04:22,332 --> 05:04:25,301 up with an ordinance subsequent 9099 05:04:25,301 --> 05:04:25,868 to that to at least take a 9100 05:04:25,868 --> 05:04:28,268 non-binding pole of the 9101 05:04:30,172 --> 05:04:31,107 business owners. At that point 9102 05:04:31,107 --> 05:04:31,874 the city of sweetwater which is 9103 05:04:31,874 --> 05:04:34,610 growing by more than double in 9104 05:04:34,610 --> 05:04:37,610 size took over the largest 9105 05:04:37,946 --> 05:04:40,946 commercial area that the money 9106 05:04:44,853 --> 05:04:45,787 went directly to his county. 9107 05:04:45,787 --> 05:04:48,787 Dennis, you have a great 9108 05:04:54,195 --> 05:04:54,895 committee. I agreed with 9109 05:04:54,895 --> 05:04:55,796 probably everything else. But 9110 05:04:55,796 --> 05:04:56,697 this one the more I think about 9111 05:04:56,697 --> 05:04:57,431 it and the more I hear my 9112 05:04:57,431 --> 05:04:58,599 colleagues, I got to be honest 9113 05:04:58,599 --> 05:04:59,566 with you. I think that this 9114 05:04:59,566 --> 05:05:00,200 body when you were here as an 9115 05:05:00,200 --> 05:05:02,350 attorney on many occasions 9116 05:05:02,350 --> 05:05:05,500 going back as far as 2002 had 9117 05:05:05,500 --> 05:05:06,907 looked at full incorporation of 9118 05:05:06,907 --> 05:05:08,410 the county. But to have 9119 05:05:08,410 --> 05:05:10,410 municipalities cherry pick 9120 05:05:11,477 --> 05:05:15,770 their remainder of the parts of 9121 05:05:18,884 --> 05:05:19,585 the county that provides blue 9122 05:05:19,585 --> 05:05:21,820 lagoon for example. It is not 9123 05:05:21,820 --> 05:05:24,489 in my district. The largest 9124 05:05:24,489 --> 05:05:26,591 corporate park that we have. 9125 05:05:26,591 --> 05:05:28,560 And the city of miami did try 9126 05:05:28,560 --> 05:05:33,360 one point to make it a part of 9127 05:05:37,235 --> 05:05:38,680 the city of miami. I think 9128 05:05:38,680 --> 05:05:38,803 that pab can handle it. 9129 05:05:38,803 --> 05:05:39,703 They're not that busy. They 9130 05:05:39,703 --> 05:05:40,704 don't appear to be a visit. 9131 05:05:40,704 --> 05:05:41,705 Abby remembers and she is back 9132 05:05:41,705 --> 05:05:43,373 there somewhere. They weren't 9133 05:05:43,373 --> 05:05:46,343 that busy to make decisions on 9134 05:05:46,343 --> 05:05:48,845 other things. I think that the 9135 05:05:48,845 --> 05:05:51,845 real frank discussion we should 9136 05:05:55,180 --> 05:05:55,919 have at one point is what type 9137 05:05:55,919 --> 05:05:56,953 of county do we want to be? Is 9138 05:05:56,953 --> 05:05:57,820 it half unincorporated and half 9139 05:05:57,820 --> 05:05:58,554 incorporated? And by the way 9140 05:05:58,554 --> 05:06:02,154 this whole vote in NOVEMBER MAY 9141 05:06:02,825 --> 05:06:03,559 give us or MAY eliminate 9142 05:06:03,559 --> 05:06:05,828 cities. We MAY have to take 9143 05:06:05,828 --> 05:06:07,896 them over. The reverse MAY 9144 05:06:07,896 --> 05:06:08,597 happen. They MAY actually 9145 05:06:08,597 --> 05:06:11,597 cease to exist because they 9146 05:06:15,136 --> 05:06:16,170 cannot function and provide for 9147 05:06:16,170 --> 05:06:17,710 the security of the people in 9148 05:06:17,710 --> 05:06:17,972 that area. And you know who's 9149 05:06:17,972 --> 05:06:21,572 going to be responsible? It is 9150 05:06:26,480 --> 05:06:27,348 going to be us. I am going to 9151 05:06:27,348 --> 05:06:28,248 agree with my colleagues and be 9152 05:06:28,248 --> 05:06:29,160 a no on this one. Just because 9153 05:06:29,160 --> 05:06:29,717 if we ever talk about 9154 05:06:29,717 --> 05:06:30,784 annexations and incorporation 9155 05:06:30,784 --> 05:06:31,618 in all of this wonderful thing, 9156 05:06:31,618 --> 05:06:33,621 we need to have a real frank 9157 05:06:33,621 --> 05:06:34,588 discussion. And I want to say 9158 05:06:34,588 --> 05:06:35,322 what nobody ever wants to say. 9159 05:06:35,322 --> 05:06:37,524 The biggest city that is not a 9160 05:06:37,524 --> 05:06:40,524 city is kendall. And if 9161 05:06:41,427 --> 05:06:42,295 kendall ever incorporate the 9162 05:06:42,295 --> 05:06:43,128 gig is over. This county is 9163 05:06:43,128 --> 05:06:46,399 going to have to really deal 9164 05:06:46,399 --> 05:06:47,433 with issues. 9165 05:06:47,433 --> 05:06:49,833 >> not going to happen. 9166 05:06:52,871 --> 05:06:53,839 >> I have heard it is not 9167 05:06:53,839 --> 05:06:54,473 going to happen. What I am 9168 05:06:54,473 --> 05:06:55,440 trying to say that is the 9169 05:06:55,440 --> 05:06:58,430 reality. Sometimes we sit here 9170 05:06:58,430 --> 05:06:58,676 because I mean really it brings 9171 05:06:58,676 --> 05:07:01,813 headaches to all of us to a 9172 05:07:01,813 --> 05:07:04,813 certain extent. I agreed with 9173 05:07:05,550 --> 05:07:07,950 what now ambassador cabrera 9174 05:07:10,154 --> 05:07:12,389 said. The bigger his 9175 05:07:12,389 --> 05:07:14,491 ambassadors always say and they 9176 05:07:14,491 --> 05:07:16,891 don't -- [Indiscernible]. The 9177 05:07:22,833 --> 05:07:23,734 millage rate goes up higher 9178 05:07:23,734 --> 05:07:24,702 than other municipalities. I 9179 05:07:24,702 --> 05:07:25,402 represent sweetwater so I am 9180 05:07:25,402 --> 05:07:26,704 happy for them and GOD blessed 9181 05:07:26,704 --> 05:07:29,573 them. But okay when we make 9182 05:07:29,573 --> 05:07:31,973 these decisions, it impacts 9183 05:07:32,477 --> 05:07:33,411 people who own businesses and 9184 05:07:33,411 --> 05:07:35,880 most that live in this county. 9185 05:07:35,880 --> 05:07:38,382 Just because they are business 9186 05:07:38,382 --> 05:07:40,782 owners small, intermediate and 9187 05:07:42,687 --> 05:07:43,421 large is not make it right to 9188 05:07:43,421 --> 05:07:44,522 disregard their point of view. 9189 05:07:44,522 --> 05:07:47,925 The last time when the example 9190 05:07:47,925 --> 05:07:48,559 I gave you happened it was 9191 05:07:48,559 --> 05:07:50,462 disregarded and the pab was 9192 05:07:50,462 --> 05:07:52,462 disregarded because the 9193 05:07:58,603 --> 05:07:59,370 CHAIRMAN. It wasn't one of my 9194 05:07:59,370 --> 05:08:00,372 mayors and wanted sweetwater. 9195 05:08:00,372 --> 05:08:01,206 That is all that happened. 9196 05:08:01,206 --> 05:08:02,141 There was nothing else and 9197 05:08:02,141 --> 05:08:06,341 sorry abby I had to bring bad 9198 05:08:12,284 --> 05:08:13,185 memories for you. The bottom 9199 05:08:13,185 --> 05:08:14,153 line is let's be frank when we 9200 05:08:14,153 --> 05:08:14,720 talk about these things. I am 9201 05:08:14,720 --> 05:08:15,621 going to be a no because I 9202 05:08:15,621 --> 05:08:16,355 think if we want to talk about 9203 05:08:16,355 --> 05:08:17,222 annexation and incorporation 9204 05:08:17,222 --> 05:08:18,156 let's sit down and talk about 9205 05:08:18,156 --> 05:08:18,890 what type of county do we want? 9206 05:08:18,890 --> 05:08:19,724 Are we going to be like other 9207 05:08:19,724 --> 05:08:20,293 counties like broward that has 9208 05:08:20,293 --> 05:08:22,293 full incorporation? 9209 05:08:23,829 --> 05:08:24,730 Practically 99.9%. Or are we 9210 05:08:24,730 --> 05:08:28,930 going to be like we are which 9211 05:08:32,771 --> 05:08:33,706 is the exception to the rule. 9212 05:08:33,706 --> 05:08:34,307 It MAY have been hit in the 9213 05:08:34,307 --> 05:08:35,274 1960s but it is now. The 9214 05:08:35,274 --> 05:08:36,142 bottom line is to me and by the 9215 05:08:36,142 --> 05:08:37,109 way the rest of the state and 9216 05:08:37,109 --> 05:08:38,430 you can correct me commissioner 9217 05:08:38,430 --> 05:08:38,944 lopez since you were there the 9218 05:08:38,944 --> 05:08:40,180 rest of the state doesn't go 9219 05:08:40,180 --> 05:08:42,480 through incorporation through 9220 05:08:42,480 --> 05:08:44,117 its commission. That is not 9221 05:08:44,117 --> 05:08:48,317 the way it works. We are the 9222 05:08:50,880 --> 05:08:50,824 only county that ever created 9223 05:08:50,824 --> 05:08:51,691 mitigation. Yes, I remember I 9224 05:08:51,691 --> 05:08:52,592 haven't forgot dennis. I like 9225 05:08:52,592 --> 05:08:53,326 you but I haven't forgotten. 9226 05:08:53,326 --> 05:08:54,195 Mitigation, we have created all 9227 05:08:54,195 --> 05:08:58,395 of these of the rules and I 9228 05:08:58,431 --> 05:09:02,310 think that, I think it is 9229 05:09:07,474 --> 05:09:08,441 important when we talk about an 9230 05:09:08,441 --> 05:09:09,208 issue like annexations and 9231 05:09:09,208 --> 05:09:10,177 incorporation that there is not 9232 05:09:10,177 --> 05:09:11,780 a confusion. I'm going to tell 9233 05:09:11,780 --> 05:09:12,145 you what the citizens of some 9234 05:09:12,145 --> 05:09:12,946 of the cities of hard to say. 9235 05:09:12,946 --> 05:09:13,613 They're going to use it 9236 05:09:13,613 --> 05:09:14,515 politically at some of these 9237 05:09:14,515 --> 05:09:18,115 mayors of the cities. We want 9238 05:09:23,524 --> 05:09:24,900 that part. We want the 9239 05:09:24,900 --> 05:09:25,250 wonderful area that they 9240 05:09:25,250 --> 05:09:25,726 represent that is the largest 9241 05:09:25,726 --> 05:09:26,627 corporate park that the county 9242 05:09:26,627 --> 05:09:27,527 has remaining offices. What 9243 05:09:27,527 --> 05:09:29,162 are you going to say to the 9244 05:09:29,162 --> 05:09:29,429 citizens of miami? Coral 9245 05:09:29,429 --> 05:09:30,164 gables? 9246 05:09:30,164 --> 05:09:31,165 >> you can't have it. 9247 05:09:31,165 --> 05:09:33,565 >> you don't need those 9248 05:09:35,269 --> 05:09:35,969 headaches because it is an 9249 05:09:35,969 --> 05:09:37,705 unfair analysis of the issue. 9250 05:09:37,705 --> 05:09:39,106 because nobody is asking what 9251 05:09:39,106 --> 05:09:42,106 about the survival of the 9252 05:09:45,313 --> 05:09:46,470 county that provides the 9253 05:09:46,470 --> 05:09:47,148 service to all of the residents 9254 05:09:47,148 --> 05:09:47,748 of miami-dade county? I am 9255 05:09:47,748 --> 05:09:51,152 going to vote no. Maybe you 9256 05:09:51,152 --> 05:09:52,200 can convince me but the 9257 05:09:52,200 --> 05:09:53,555 citizens bill of rights is 9258 05:09:53,555 --> 05:09:55,555 still important. 9259 05:09:56,900 --> 05:09:58,260 >> MR. CHAIRMAN? 9260 05:09:58,260 --> 05:10:00,260 >> yes. 9261 05:10:07,535 --> 05:10:08,403 >> I'm going to add you to the 9262 05:10:08,403 --> 05:10:09,303 list commissioner. I'm going 9263 05:10:09,303 --> 05:10:09,837 to have district one, vice 9264 05:10:09,837 --> 05:10:10,506 chair. 9265 05:10:10,506 --> 05:10:12,908 >> MR. CHAIRMAN I am doing 9266 05:10:12,908 --> 05:10:13,608 some rough, first of all the 9267 05:10:13,608 --> 05:10:16,545 people to my left could stop 9268 05:10:16,545 --> 05:10:17,211 talking that is the airport 9269 05:10:17,211 --> 05:10:18,460 people your airport items are 9270 05:10:18,460 --> 05:10:19,470 gone. If you cannot be quiet 9271 05:10:19,470 --> 05:10:22,470 in the chambers leave the 9272 05:10:30,927 --> 05:10:31,627 chambers. Can we do that? MR. 9273 05:10:31,627 --> 05:10:35,827 Chair a rough count would be a 9274 05:10:36,231 --> 05:10:36,832 lot of no on this kind. If we 9275 05:10:36,832 --> 05:10:39,832 let the dead horse die? 9276 05:10:40,737 --> 05:10:41,537 >> I'm good with that. Vice 9277 05:10:41,537 --> 05:10:43,937 chair everybody that is 9278 05:10:45,740 --> 05:10:47,676 pending? It has been moved by 9279 05:10:47,676 --> 05:10:48,610 senator garcia and seconded by 9280 05:10:48,610 --> 05:10:50,180 commissioner lopez for a vote 9281 05:10:50,180 --> 05:10:53,180 purpose. Are you good with 9282 05:10:54,217 --> 05:10:57,817 that vice chair? All in favor 9283 05:11:05,462 --> 05:11:06,363 signify the same aye. It is 9284 05:11:06,363 --> 05:11:07,630 not to kill it, it is a vote. 9285 05:11:07,630 --> 05:11:07,997 You cool kill it. Right now it 9286 05:11:07,997 --> 05:11:08,932 is to pass it. If you are in 9287 05:11:08,932 --> 05:11:11,932 favor signify by saying aye. 9288 05:11:11,969 --> 05:11:13,937 All opposed, nay. This charter 9289 05:11:13,937 --> 05:11:17,537 review task force item does not 9290 05:11:21,712 --> 05:11:22,713 exist. It cannot move forward. 9291 05:11:22,713 --> 05:11:23,647 >> just as a point of personal 9292 05:11:23,647 --> 05:11:24,581 privilege on this, I think that 9293 05:11:24,581 --> 05:11:25,549 we should all consider some of 9294 05:11:25,549 --> 05:11:28,549 the things that were mentioned 9295 05:11:29,419 --> 05:11:30,254 here. Because for example and 9296 05:11:30,254 --> 05:11:30,922 we have talked about this 9297 05:11:30,922 --> 05:11:31,855 before jc gets triggered when 9298 05:11:31,855 --> 05:11:33,424 we talk about this issue. We 9299 05:11:33,424 --> 05:11:34,910 have talked about how the 9300 05:11:34,910 --> 05:11:36,491 applications should speak to 9301 05:11:37,661 --> 05:11:38,429 the broader issue and not just 9302 05:11:38,429 --> 05:11:40,832 the area and the fiscal impact. 9303 05:11:40,832 --> 05:11:41,833 And I can tell you when south 9304 05:11:41,833 --> 05:11:44,833 miami came with an application 9305 05:11:47,638 --> 05:11:48,606 that they wanted to take dave, 9306 05:11:48,606 --> 05:11:49,506 I said no. I think we need to 9307 05:11:49,506 --> 05:11:52,610 take some of these ideas and 9308 05:11:52,610 --> 05:11:53,144 maybe incorporate them into our 9309 05:11:53,144 --> 05:11:53,811 process. 9310 05:11:53,811 --> 05:11:55,460 >> I think that is fair. 9311 05:11:55,460 --> 05:11:56,470 >> thank you dennis. 9312 05:11:56,470 --> 05:11:59,470 >> thank you dennis for that, 9313 05:12:01,486 --> 05:12:04,486 I appreciate it. 11 a 20. I 9314 05:12:06,357 --> 05:12:09,761 will take a motion on 11 a 20. 9315 05:12:09,761 --> 05:12:13,361 I have him motion and seconded. 9316 05:12:16,568 --> 05:12:17,435 You are recognized on b7. 9317 05:12:17,435 --> 05:12:18,136 >> I have a friendly amendment 9318 05:12:18,136 --> 05:12:19,770 that might help. In my prior 9319 05:12:19,770 --> 05:12:23,370 life as a school board member, 9320 05:12:27,245 --> 05:12:28,246 I worked on advertising at our 9321 05:12:28,246 --> 05:12:28,947 schools. One of the biggest 9322 05:12:28,947 --> 05:12:29,915 complaints that miami-dade 9323 05:12:29,915 --> 05:12:30,883 county public schools received 9324 05:12:30,883 --> 05:12:31,984 and I still receive as a county 9325 05:12:31,984 --> 05:12:34,384 commissioner are the horrible 9326 05:12:37,156 --> 05:12:37,823 banners that the school 9327 05:12:37,823 --> 05:12:38,724 district puts around the 9328 05:12:38,724 --> 05:12:39,625 schools. Everybody hates them 9329 05:12:39,625 --> 05:12:40,960 and I was against them. I 9330 05:12:40,960 --> 05:12:42,940 tried to limit them when I was 9331 05:12:42,940 --> 05:12:45,310 there. It is a constant issue. 9332 05:12:45,310 --> 05:12:48,631 I appreciate that we are going 9333 05:12:48,968 --> 05:12:49,635 to do some advertising in our 9334 05:12:49,635 --> 05:12:52,635 parks because we want to 9335 05:12:53,406 --> 05:12:54,400 increase revenue. But I do not 9336 05:12:54,400 --> 05:12:56,743 want to have those banners 9337 05:12:56,743 --> 05:13:00,943 around the parks that we see at 9338 05:13:01,148 --> 05:13:02,480 our school district. So it 9339 05:13:02,480 --> 05:13:05,885 doesn't speak to it, it is very 9340 05:13:05,885 --> 05:13:06,852 broad. So I wonder if there's 9341 05:13:06,852 --> 05:13:10,452 something that we can amend to 9342 05:13:10,891 --> 05:13:13,891 ensure that it doesn't happen. 9343 05:13:15,328 --> 05:13:16,363 >> I agree. I can't stand it. 9344 05:13:16,363 --> 05:13:17,630 I don't know if it is an 9345 05:13:17,630 --> 05:13:17,931 unincorporated thing or it 9346 05:13:17,931 --> 05:13:20,634 happens everywhere but it is 9347 05:13:20,634 --> 05:13:21,368 ridiculous. That is something 9348 05:13:21,368 --> 05:13:22,135 that I discussed with the 9349 05:13:22,135 --> 05:13:24,938 attorneys to add in here. 9350 05:13:24,938 --> 05:13:25,806 purposely left it out to have 9351 05:13:25,806 --> 05:13:30,600 it as a matter of policy for 9352 05:13:51,933 --> 05:13:52,967 this board if it gets approved 9353 05:13:52,967 --> 05:13:53,902 by the voters. As a matter of 9354 05:13:53,902 --> 05:13:54,802 policy this board, this is just 9355 05:13:54,802 --> 05:13:55,436 to open up so that the 9356 05:13:55,436 --> 05:13:56,304 advertisement can exist. 9357 05:13:56,304 --> 05:13:57,400 Really the intent is digital. 9358 05:13:57,400 --> 05:13:57,905 It is not banners and I do not 9359 05:13:57,905 --> 05:13:58,773 want banners because it irks 9360 05:13:58,773 --> 05:13:59,407 me. I wanted to be a matter of 9361 05:13:59,407 --> 05:14:00,308 policy of this for what is 9362 05:14:00,308 --> 05:14:01,509 allowed and what is not. Maybe 9363 05:14:01,509 --> 05:14:02,143 we can limit sizes. We don't 9364 05:14:02,143 --> 05:14:02,811 want us completely say you can 9365 05:14:02,811 --> 05:14:03,478 put a small banner somewhere. 9366 05:14:03,478 --> 05:14:04,378 It makes sense. I appreciate 9367 05:14:04,378 --> 05:14:05,279 that. I think people will vote 9368 05:14:05,279 --> 05:14:05,980 against this is that is not 9369 05:14:05,980 --> 05:14:08,750 clarified. So many people hate 9370 05:14:08,750 --> 05:14:09,583 the banners around the schools 9371 05:14:09,583 --> 05:14:10,618 that I think when they see 9372 05:14:10,618 --> 05:14:11,320 parks and advertising that is 9373 05:14:11,320 --> 05:14:12,120 going to come up. I appreciate 9374 05:14:12,120 --> 05:14:12,820 that we do the policy 9375 05:14:12,820 --> 05:14:13,755 afterwards I think it is going 9376 05:14:13,755 --> 05:14:17,355 to hurt its ability to pass. 9377 05:14:19,127 --> 05:14:20,940 >> it was part of something I 9378 05:14:20,940 --> 05:14:21,960 discussed with attorneys and we 9379 05:14:21,960 --> 05:14:21,797 opted to take it out. I am not 9380 05:14:21,797 --> 05:14:25,397 entirely opposed to it. I do 9381 05:14:26,168 --> 05:14:26,868 not want to limit something, I 9382 05:14:26,868 --> 05:14:27,735 want to limit 1000 banners on 9383 05:14:27,735 --> 05:14:28,603 the fence. That I do want to 9384 05:14:28,603 --> 05:14:29,638 limit. I don't want to limit 9385 05:14:29,638 --> 05:14:32,140 the potential of one banner or 9386 05:14:32,140 --> 05:14:33,420 two banners at a baseball field 9387 05:14:33,420 --> 05:14:36,642 if they are sponsoring a game 9388 05:14:38,146 --> 05:14:39,470 or something like that. By 9389 05:14:39,470 --> 05:14:40,516 putting it in the charter I 9390 05:14:40,516 --> 05:14:44,116 think it prohibits us from the 9391 05:14:49,910 --> 05:14:49,958 type of policy. I am with you 9392 05:14:49,958 --> 05:14:50,827 on the intent of what you are 9393 05:14:50,827 --> 05:14:51,494 saying. I don't know if we 9394 05:14:51,494 --> 05:14:54,364 want to tie the hands of 9395 05:14:54,364 --> 05:14:55,331 potential income. 9396 05:14:55,331 --> 05:14:56,232 >> my friendly amendment would 9397 05:14:56,232 --> 05:15:00,432 be too speak to the fencing and 9398 05:15:02,172 --> 05:15:03,173 maybe a percentage. 9399 05:15:03,173 --> 05:15:03,506 >> do you have something 9400 05:15:03,506 --> 05:15:05,506 drafted? 9401 05:15:12,349 --> 05:15:13,917 >> no. If there's fencing you 9402 05:15:13,917 --> 05:15:14,551 can't cover more than 25% of 9403 05:15:14,551 --> 05:15:15,485 the fence and that way you can 9404 05:15:15,485 --> 05:15:16,386 put a banner. You can't wrap a 9405 05:15:16,386 --> 05:15:16,619 park. The issue is the wrap a 9406 05:15:16,619 --> 05:15:18,619 park. 9407 05:15:21,592 --> 05:15:22,659 >> I am fine with that. That 9408 05:15:22,659 --> 05:15:23,393 would be a friendly amendment. 9409 05:15:23,393 --> 05:15:24,294 I do not want banners at all. 9410 05:15:24,294 --> 05:15:24,961 I was still like, I guess 9411 05:15:24,961 --> 05:15:28,561 here's the question if we do 9412 05:15:28,865 --> 05:15:29,566 that, can we still as a matter 9413 05:15:29,566 --> 05:15:30,468 of policy of this board come 9414 05:15:30,468 --> 05:15:34,680 back later and say, we don't 9415 05:15:38,741 --> 05:15:39,643 want any banners offenses at 9416 05:15:39,643 --> 05:15:40,244 all? Can we go stricter than 9417 05:15:40,244 --> 05:15:41,245 the charter amendment? 9418 05:15:41,245 --> 05:15:42,460 >> you absolutely can. 9419 05:15:42,460 --> 05:15:43,470 >> I am okay with the language 9420 05:15:43,470 --> 05:15:46,470 of no banner advertisement to 9421 05:16:00,265 --> 05:16:01,766 exceed 25% of linear footage. 9422 05:16:01,766 --> 05:16:02,667 >> it is the fence. The issue 9423 05:16:02,667 --> 05:16:04,301 is the fence. I think you have 9424 05:16:04,301 --> 05:16:05,236 to specifically speak to the 9425 05:16:05,236 --> 05:16:06,700 fence because that is what the 9426 05:16:06,700 --> 05:16:07,204 voters are going to think 9427 05:16:07,204 --> 05:16:07,805 about. They are going to think 9428 05:16:07,805 --> 05:16:08,239 about the school district in 9429 05:16:08,239 --> 05:16:09,207 the fence. 9430 05:16:09,207 --> 05:16:10,107 >> exterior fence. So no 9431 05:16:10,107 --> 05:16:11,109 advertisement shall be in the 9432 05:16:11,109 --> 05:16:13,509 form of fence banners 9433 05:16:18,116 --> 05:16:19,117 encompassing over 25% of 9434 05:16:19,117 --> 05:16:20,118 exterior fencing. Some version 9435 05:16:20,118 --> 05:16:20,486 of that. Do you want to clean 9436 05:16:20,486 --> 05:16:21,620 that up? 9437 05:16:21,620 --> 05:16:22,254 >> MR. Chair would be possible 9438 05:16:22,254 --> 05:16:25,854 since it relates to the ballot 9439 05:16:26,891 --> 05:16:27,526 question and changes need to be 9440 05:16:27,526 --> 05:16:28,326 made if we can move on to 9441 05:16:28,326 --> 05:16:31,926 another item we can work on 9442 05:16:35,900 --> 05:16:36,535 drafting language presented to 9443 05:16:36,535 --> 05:16:37,135 you and we can come back to 9444 05:16:37,135 --> 05:16:37,803 this item? 9445 05:16:37,803 --> 05:16:38,470 >> absolutely. Let me get 9446 05:16:38,470 --> 05:16:39,437 input from the rest of the 9447 05:16:39,437 --> 05:16:42,437 commissioners in case they want 9448 05:16:45,440 --> 05:16:45,277 to add stuff to it. I am open 9449 05:16:45,277 --> 05:16:46,111 to it. 9450 05:16:46,111 --> 05:16:46,679 >> this is the last item. 9451 05:16:46,679 --> 05:16:48,679 >> is it though? 9452 05:16:51,484 --> 05:16:52,752 >> are we still on the last 9453 05:16:52,752 --> 05:16:53,486 item MR. Chair? 9454 05:16:53,486 --> 05:16:54,553 >> yes, we are still on item. 9455 05:16:54,553 --> 05:16:56,856 >> when I have a chance I want 9456 05:16:56,856 --> 05:16:57,857 to add something. 9457 05:16:57,857 --> 05:17:01,460 >> first of all I want to say 9458 05:17:01,460 --> 05:17:02,428 that I appreciate the intent of 9459 05:17:02,428 --> 05:17:03,996 creating new funding 9460 05:17:03,996 --> 05:17:04,630 opportunities for our parks so 9461 05:17:04,630 --> 05:17:08,230 thank you CHAIRMAN. But I do 9462 05:17:12,906 --> 05:17:13,873 believe we need to proceed with 9463 05:17:13,873 --> 05:17:14,574 caution and establish clear 9464 05:17:14,574 --> 05:17:15,408 guardrails before we move 9465 05:17:15,408 --> 05:17:16,376 forward. In its form today I 9466 05:17:16,376 --> 05:17:18,711 will not be supporting this 9467 05:17:18,711 --> 05:17:19,679 item. Because I think that we 9468 05:17:19,679 --> 05:17:22,679 need the legal framework first 9469 05:17:24,151 --> 05:17:25,180 before we put it out to -- I 9470 05:17:25,180 --> 05:17:25,719 know you can do it after. I 9471 05:17:25,719 --> 05:17:26,553 understand that. I think there 9472 05:17:26,553 --> 05:17:30,153 are too many concerns that I 9473 05:17:36,863 --> 05:17:37,664 have that maybe others will 9474 05:17:37,664 --> 05:17:38,298 share. I think we need to 9475 05:17:38,298 --> 05:17:39,299 think beyond today's 9476 05:17:39,299 --> 05:17:39,899 intentions. With this policy 9477 05:17:39,899 --> 05:17:40,735 look like in five years? 10 9478 05:17:40,735 --> 05:17:43,370 years? 15 years? I do not 9479 05:17:43,370 --> 05:17:43,704 doubt -- want to see 9480 05:17:43,704 --> 05:17:45,704 consequences. The community 9481 05:17:47,441 --> 05:17:48,475 that bears the impact should 9482 05:17:48,475 --> 05:17:49,176 receive the benefit. Which is 9483 05:17:49,176 --> 05:17:52,776 I know something that maybe is 9484 05:17:57,551 --> 05:17:58,518 not in this. If history is an 9485 05:17:58,518 --> 05:17:59,253 indication of how the county 9486 05:17:59,253 --> 05:18:00,288 negotiated things in the past, 9487 05:18:00,288 --> 05:18:01,189 I don't really have a lot of 9488 05:18:01,189 --> 05:18:01,723 real sense of what that is 9489 05:18:01,723 --> 05:18:05,920 going to look like in the 9490 05:18:05,920 --> 05:18:08,329 future. So let me just go to 9491 05:18:08,329 --> 05:18:09,620 my points really quickly. 9492 05:18:09,620 --> 05:18:12,330 Because the parks were going to 9493 05:18:12,330 --> 05:18:13,680 have advertisement so they are 9494 05:18:13,680 --> 05:18:16,680 going to shoulder that burden. 9495 05:18:18,272 --> 05:18:18,873 But then I don't know what kind 9496 05:18:18,873 --> 05:18:19,774 of commercial activity or 9497 05:18:19,774 --> 05:18:20,742 visual impact it is going to 9498 05:18:20,742 --> 05:18:24,790 be? What does that look like? 9499 05:18:24,790 --> 05:18:24,813 So they should see directly 9500 05:18:24,813 --> 05:18:25,780 investment if they are going to 9501 05:18:25,780 --> 05:18:27,749 have to shoulder the burden. I 9502 05:18:27,749 --> 05:18:30,749 also think that we haven't 9503 05:18:36,491 --> 05:18:37,425 fully explored all of a sudden 9504 05:18:37,425 --> 05:18:38,360 I was told by the parks 9505 05:18:38,360 --> 05:18:38,960 department and by the county 9506 05:18:38,960 --> 05:18:39,861 attorney's office that 9507 05:18:39,861 --> 05:18:40,596 sponsorship opportunities are 9508 05:18:40,596 --> 05:18:43,399 now no longer running afoul 9509 05:18:43,399 --> 05:18:44,233 with the charter with article 7 9510 05:18:44,233 --> 05:18:44,866 such as capital improvement 9511 05:18:44,866 --> 05:18:46,866 sponsorship, philanthropic 9512 05:18:48,770 --> 05:18:49,438 donations. Those we had to 9513 05:18:49,438 --> 05:18:52,438 explore, what does that look 9514 05:18:59,681 --> 05:19:00,583 like? So I am concerned about 9515 05:19:00,583 --> 05:19:01,251 opening up the door. You just 9516 05:19:01,251 --> 05:19:02,118 talk about banners, I had not 9517 05:19:02,118 --> 05:19:03,860 thought about banners. I was 9518 05:19:03,860 --> 05:19:03,820 thinking are we going to allow 9519 05:19:03,820 --> 05:19:07,420 digital? Are we are going to 9520 05:19:10,794 --> 05:19:11,728 loud -- allow billboards? Can 9521 05:19:11,728 --> 05:19:12,562 this lead to advertising 9522 05:19:12,562 --> 05:19:14,962 associated with other things? 9523 05:19:20,702 --> 05:19:21,337 I have so many questions 9524 05:19:21,337 --> 05:19:22,204 because the park is also a 9525 05:19:22,204 --> 05:19:22,905 beach, what does that mean? 9526 05:19:22,905 --> 05:19:23,839 Can we exempt maybe waterfront 9527 05:19:23,839 --> 05:19:24,840 parks because those have unique 9528 05:19:24,840 --> 05:19:25,441 issues? They are going to bear 9529 05:19:25,441 --> 05:19:26,909 a lot of this and what does 9530 05:19:26,909 --> 05:19:30,509 that look like? So I support 9531 05:19:31,813 --> 05:19:36,130 and I and wearing green and I 9532 05:19:38,190 --> 05:19:39,200 support parks and you can adopt 9533 05:19:39,200 --> 05:19:39,854 two trees at various locations 9534 05:19:39,854 --> 05:19:41,689 throughout the county. We want 9535 05:19:41,689 --> 05:19:45,289 to support our parks. As we 9536 05:19:45,659 --> 05:19:46,193 are going for new revenue 9537 05:19:46,193 --> 05:19:46,794 streams I don't want have 9538 05:19:46,794 --> 05:19:48,794 consequences that permanently 9539 05:19:51,531 --> 05:19:52,199 change the parks or dictate 9540 05:19:52,199 --> 05:19:53,330 what belongs in our public 9541 05:19:53,330 --> 05:19:53,767 spaces and the people's public 9542 05:19:53,767 --> 05:19:54,634 spaces. What I don't want to 9543 05:19:54,634 --> 05:19:58,234 see is all over turn into 9544 05:20:08,147 --> 05:20:09,148 nascar venue. By the way being 9545 05:20:09,148 --> 05:20:09,781 consistent on advertisement. 9546 05:20:09,781 --> 05:20:10,883 Anybody who knows me I have 9547 05:20:10,883 --> 05:20:11,850 concerns about advertisement. 9548 05:20:11,850 --> 05:20:12,718 I just wanted to put that out 9549 05:20:12,718 --> 05:20:13,418 there. I appreciate where this 9550 05:20:13,418 --> 05:20:14,253 is coming from but that is why 9551 05:20:14,253 --> 05:20:15,187 I can't support it. I don't 9552 05:20:15,187 --> 05:20:16,121 know if their ideas to make it 9553 05:20:16,121 --> 05:20:16,821 so that we tighten it even 9554 05:20:16,821 --> 05:20:17,655 further. Those are my thoughts 9555 05:20:17,655 --> 05:20:17,889 at this time. Thank you so 9556 05:20:17,889 --> 05:20:19,889 much. 9557 05:20:21,926 --> 05:20:23,926 >> I respect that 9558 05:20:24,996 --> 05:20:27,396 commissioner. This is very 9559 05:20:28,466 --> 05:20:29,333 simple for me. I am trying and 9560 05:20:29,333 --> 05:20:31,635 I thought of this to come up 9561 05:20:31,635 --> 05:20:32,302 with revenue sources when 9562 05:20:32,302 --> 05:20:34,605 property taxes are being 9563 05:20:34,605 --> 05:20:38,205 reformed. It is the talk of 9564 05:20:38,375 --> 05:20:42,575 the town. It is one of the 9565 05:20:43,646 --> 05:20:44,347 highest most impacted 9566 05:20:44,347 --> 05:20:45,148 departments in our county and 9567 05:20:45,148 --> 05:20:45,915 it is important to our 9568 05:20:45,915 --> 05:20:47,830 community. It's funny you said 9569 05:20:47,830 --> 05:20:49,510 that because one of the points 9570 05:20:49,510 --> 05:20:52,651 you said because I actually the 9571 05:20:52,788 --> 05:20:53,422 original form and I amended it 9572 05:20:53,422 --> 05:20:55,724 in committee. The original 9573 05:20:55,724 --> 05:20:59,324 form of this item had so 9574 05:21:03,398 --> 05:21:04,298 wherever the advertisement took 9575 05:21:04,298 --> 05:21:05,299 place the funds remained in 9576 05:21:05,299 --> 05:21:05,900 that park. Working with the 9577 05:21:05,900 --> 05:21:08,300 parks department director we 9578 05:21:09,604 --> 05:21:10,471 actually amended that out so 9579 05:21:10,471 --> 05:21:13,471 because there's a lot of 9580 05:21:17,344 --> 05:21:18,120 community parks that MAY be 9581 05:21:18,120 --> 05:21:18,846 some folks MAY not want to 9582 05:21:18,846 --> 05:21:19,513 advertise. We don't want them 9583 05:21:19,513 --> 05:21:20,380 to be left out. I did however 9584 05:21:20,380 --> 05:21:24,580 place a hold to come back to 9585 05:21:25,618 --> 05:21:26,586 the board and maybe create 9586 05:21:26,586 --> 05:21:27,988 regions. Not necessarily that 9587 05:21:27,988 --> 05:21:31,588 the money stays in a particular 9588 05:21:35,595 --> 05:21:36,562 park but create regions. The 9589 05:21:36,562 --> 05:21:37,730 regions are not going to be 9590 05:21:37,730 --> 05:21:38,697 districts, commission districts 9591 05:21:38,697 --> 05:21:39,632 it could be the south, central 9592 05:21:39,632 --> 05:21:40,232 and north region. It's still 9593 05:21:40,232 --> 05:21:41,233 encompasses most of it and 9594 05:21:41,233 --> 05:21:43,869 everyone gets their fair share. 9595 05:21:43,869 --> 05:21:44,836 I agree with your mindset of 9596 05:21:44,836 --> 05:21:48,436 they should stay in the park. 9597 05:21:54,245 --> 05:21:55,280 I understand parks concerned 9598 05:21:55,280 --> 05:21:55,947 with it and the administration 9599 05:21:55,947 --> 05:21:56,781 concern with it. And it is a 9600 05:21:56,781 --> 05:21:57,715 real one by the way. I was 9601 05:21:57,715 --> 05:21:58,415 amenable to amending that out. 9602 05:21:58,415 --> 05:21:59,250 I do have a hold on policy to 9603 05:21:59,250 --> 05:22:01,180 implement some sort of 9604 05:22:01,180 --> 05:22:02,553 framework to maintain it. I 9605 05:22:02,553 --> 05:22:06,560 could earn your support on it 9606 05:22:06,560 --> 05:22:09,656 because it is one way to 9607 05:22:11,795 --> 05:22:12,462 generate revenue for our parks 9608 05:22:12,462 --> 05:22:13,263 department in a time when we 9609 05:22:13,263 --> 05:22:15,265 need it. I understand of 9610 05:22:15,265 --> 05:22:15,565 course and respect your 9611 05:22:15,565 --> 05:22:17,565 position. 9612 05:22:18,267 --> 05:22:21,267 >> I don't have county parks 9613 05:22:29,845 --> 05:22:30,579 in my district unfortunately. 9614 05:22:30,579 --> 05:22:31,480 I want to caution I have had a 9615 05:22:31,480 --> 05:22:32,381 lot of issues in my district 9616 05:22:32,381 --> 05:22:33,515 with digital signs. And the 9617 05:22:33,515 --> 05:22:34,816 way to residential communities 9618 05:22:34,816 --> 05:22:35,350 view them. You MAY want to 9619 05:22:35,350 --> 05:22:36,151 consider should this past 9620 05:22:36,151 --> 05:22:38,551 during the implementation of 9621 05:22:41,622 --> 05:22:42,323 this to potentially exclude 9622 05:22:42,323 --> 05:22:43,925 digital signs. A lot of our 9623 05:22:43,925 --> 05:22:46,925 county parks are in residential 9624 05:22:46,927 --> 05:22:50,527 areas. You just have to see 9625 05:22:52,399 --> 05:22:53,300 what that looks like at night. 9626 05:22:53,300 --> 05:22:55,936 With the lights, you will have 9627 05:22:55,936 --> 05:22:57,404 the same problem I had in my 9628 05:22:57,404 --> 05:22:59,804 district with digital signage 9629 05:23:05,611 --> 05:23:06,679 in the urban area and how was 9630 05:23:06,679 --> 05:23:09,790 impacting my residence. Would 9631 05:23:12,384 --> 05:23:13,520 it be digital etc. And I 9632 05:23:13,520 --> 05:23:15,254 realize I have been struggling 9633 05:23:15,254 --> 05:23:15,988 with digital signs of my 9634 05:23:15,988 --> 05:23:17,880 district and it does impact 9635 05:23:17,880 --> 05:23:17,622 residential. I am supportive 9636 05:23:17,622 --> 05:23:18,423 of this item because I do 9637 05:23:18,423 --> 05:23:22,623 believe we are going to need to 9638 05:23:24,950 --> 05:23:25,960 have some revenue stream for 9639 05:23:25,960 --> 05:23:26,640 parks especially since they are 9640 05:23:26,640 --> 05:23:26,597 so important to our county. 9641 05:23:26,597 --> 05:23:28,997 Thank you MR. Chair. 9642 05:23:31,680 --> 05:23:31,935 >> it is not the issue that 9643 05:23:31,935 --> 05:23:35,535 you're having, it is not the 9644 05:23:36,540 --> 05:23:37,441 big billboards at all. It is 9645 05:23:37,441 --> 05:23:41,410 more like the kiosk that you 9646 05:23:46,850 --> 05:23:47,850 see in coral gables small kiosk 9647 05:23:47,850 --> 05:23:48,551 throughout the park that served 9648 05:23:48,551 --> 05:23:49,585 multi-purposes. It is not just 9649 05:23:49,585 --> 05:23:50,520 an advertisement mechanism, it 9650 05:23:50,520 --> 05:23:51,354 has access to dial 9-1-1 9651 05:23:51,354 --> 05:23:52,210 emergency services if your 9652 05:23:52,210 --> 05:23:55,157 phone run out and he could 9653 05:23:55,157 --> 05:23:56,250 charge her phone. It is 9654 05:23:56,250 --> 05:23:56,792 telling that you are standing 9655 05:23:56,792 --> 05:23:57,726 here and this is what is around 9656 05:23:57,726 --> 05:23:59,280 the park. These are the 9657 05:23:59,280 --> 05:23:59,595 restaurants nearby. It is not 9658 05:23:59,595 --> 05:24:00,262 billboards it is more of a 9659 05:24:00,262 --> 05:24:02,662 kiosk. It can generate 9660 05:24:03,899 --> 05:24:04,732 revenue. I haven't forgot you 9661 05:24:04,732 --> 05:24:07,235 mme. Mayor. I'm going to you 9662 05:24:07,235 --> 05:24:10,204 in a second. Just one second. 9663 05:24:10,204 --> 05:24:11,139 The idea is to have digital 9664 05:24:11,139 --> 05:24:14,739 signs and not have the banners 9665 05:24:16,760 --> 05:24:16,977 that do make it at times ugly 9666 05:24:16,977 --> 05:24:18,790 throughout the park. I want to 9667 05:24:18,790 --> 05:24:20,548 say once again a lot of the 9668 05:24:20,548 --> 05:24:21,649 concerns brought up or 9669 05:24:21,649 --> 05:24:23,651 something that would be 9670 05:24:23,651 --> 05:24:27,251 discussed as a matter of policy 9671 05:24:27,521 --> 05:24:31,121 of this board shall this past 9672 05:24:33,261 --> 05:24:34,262 by the voters. And so we will 9673 05:24:34,262 --> 05:24:37,262 be having this discussion at 9674 05:24:40,636 --> 05:24:41,370 some point shall it pass. Go 9675 05:24:41,370 --> 05:24:42,271 ahead thank you MR. Chair. And 9676 05:24:42,271 --> 05:24:44,671 to commissioner lopez this 9677 05:24:49,243 --> 05:24:51,130 point the city of miami opted 9678 05:24:51,130 --> 05:24:51,646 out of ladybird. It is a very 9679 05:24:51,646 --> 05:24:52,815 different situation. We do not 9680 05:24:52,815 --> 05:24:53,449 have an opt out of ladybird. 9681 05:24:53,449 --> 05:24:54,216 Irrespective of this, we cannot 9682 05:24:54,216 --> 05:24:55,117 do the things that the city of 9683 05:24:55,117 --> 05:24:57,986 miami does. We talk about 9684 05:24:57,986 --> 05:24:59,200 digital signing, it is very 9685 05:24:59,200 --> 05:25:00,590 different conversation to the 9686 05:25:00,590 --> 05:25:01,223 chair! It is about finding 9687 05:25:01,223 --> 05:25:03,250 similar to what we approved 9688 05:25:03,250 --> 05:25:05,425 that the underlying that 9689 05:25:06,761 --> 05:25:07,396 provides people with 9690 05:25:07,396 --> 05:25:08,463 information and some 9691 05:25:08,463 --> 05:25:09,970 advertising. Our rules are a 9692 05:25:09,970 --> 05:25:12,201 lot different from the city of 9693 05:25:12,201 --> 05:25:13,350 miami. We say digital signage, 9694 05:25:13,350 --> 05:25:16,635 it is very different from when 9695 05:25:21,243 --> 05:25:22,212 the city of miami say digital 9696 05:25:22,212 --> 05:25:22,879 signage. They opted out of 9697 05:25:22,879 --> 05:25:23,746 ladybird. That is a federal 9698 05:25:23,746 --> 05:25:24,414 issue and has nothing to do 9699 05:25:24,414 --> 05:25:25,281 with us. We cannot go as far 9700 05:25:25,281 --> 05:25:26,416 as they have gone without an 9701 05:25:26,416 --> 05:25:28,317 opt out which would be very 9702 05:25:28,317 --> 05:25:30,317 complex. 9703 05:25:38,361 --> 05:25:39,262 >> mme. Mayor? Let me finish 9704 05:25:39,262 --> 05:25:40,129 with the board that is okay? 9705 05:25:40,129 --> 05:25:40,430 Do you want to input on some of 9706 05:25:40,430 --> 05:25:42,430 the stuff? 9707 05:25:42,866 --> 05:25:43,600 >> yes of course. 9708 05:25:43,600 --> 05:25:44,668 >> I do think it is important 9709 05:25:44,668 --> 05:25:44,967 for you to hear from the parks 9710 05:25:44,967 --> 05:25:46,967 department. 9711 05:25:51,642 --> 05:25:53,100 >> we are not stopping the 9712 05:25:53,100 --> 05:25:53,744 conversation until we hear from 9713 05:25:53,744 --> 05:25:54,344 you all. Let me finish with 9714 05:25:54,344 --> 05:25:55,445 the board. 9715 05:25:55,445 --> 05:25:56,246 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. 9716 05:25:56,246 --> 05:25:56,880 I do have, I appreciate what 9717 05:25:56,880 --> 05:25:57,748 you're trying to do. I get 9718 05:25:57,748 --> 05:25:59,649 this. We are in a time where 9719 05:25:59,649 --> 05:26:00,653 we are having financial 9720 05:26:00,653 --> 05:26:01,385 constraints and it becomes more 9721 05:26:01,385 --> 05:26:02,319 difficult and we need to raise 9722 05:26:02,319 --> 05:26:05,880 money and I get that. That is 9723 05:26:05,880 --> 05:26:06,824 admirable. One of the issues 9724 05:26:06,824 --> 05:26:11,624 that I do have is that we can 9725 05:26:12,263 --> 05:26:13,231 put up banners and so forth for 9726 05:26:13,231 --> 05:26:15,631 sponsorships. It is the 9727 05:26:18,936 --> 05:26:19,703 advertisement. We live in a 9728 05:26:19,703 --> 05:26:20,438 world where it is hyper 9729 05:26:20,438 --> 05:26:21,405 advertisement. Everywhere we 9730 05:26:21,405 --> 05:26:24,405 go everywhere we look somebody 9731 05:26:25,176 --> 05:26:25,877 is showing something out his. 9732 05:26:25,877 --> 05:26:26,744 I find that our parks should be 9733 05:26:26,744 --> 05:26:27,644 our sanctuaries. Our parks 9734 05:26:27,644 --> 05:26:31,149 should be somewhere we can go 9735 05:26:31,149 --> 05:26:32,150 and get away from the crazy and 9736 05:26:32,150 --> 05:26:35,750 the noise that we face every 9737 05:26:36,654 --> 05:26:38,220 day. I look at what happens at 9738 05:26:38,220 --> 05:26:38,656 the park and I think about what 9739 05:26:38,656 --> 05:26:41,960 we have in creating these trees 9740 05:26:41,960 --> 05:26:42,828 to make sure that we have a 9741 05:26:42,828 --> 05:26:45,828 place that people can feel 9742 05:26:47,165 --> 05:26:47,799 comfortable and walk on the 9743 05:26:47,799 --> 05:26:48,633 walkways and be one with 9744 05:26:48,633 --> 05:26:51,633 themselves and the creator and 9745 05:26:53,472 --> 05:26:54,339 GOD. And we are going to open 9746 05:26:54,339 --> 05:26:54,973 social where we have 9747 05:26:54,973 --> 05:26:55,674 advertisement thrown their way. 9748 05:26:55,674 --> 05:26:58,276 I think this was put in the 9749 05:26:58,276 --> 05:26:59,144 charter for a reason. Unless 9750 05:26:59,144 --> 05:27:00,312 we can find a way to modify 9751 05:27:00,312 --> 05:27:03,912 some of this, just don't know. 9752 05:27:04,350 --> 05:27:05,250 MR. CHAIRMAN I hate to do this 9753 05:27:05,250 --> 05:27:05,984 but I don't know if I can 9754 05:27:05,984 --> 05:27:08,320 support this at this time. I 9755 05:27:08,320 --> 05:27:09,221 think it is just or cumbersome 9756 05:27:09,221 --> 05:27:10,155 and I appreciate what you're 9757 05:27:10,155 --> 05:27:14,355 trying to do. I don't know if 9758 05:27:15,940 --> 05:27:15,394 I can do this at this time. 9759 05:27:15,394 --> 05:27:16,562 Thank you. 9760 05:27:16,562 --> 05:27:17,496 >> I understand, senator I do 9761 05:27:17,496 --> 05:27:18,970 understand what you're saying 9762 05:27:18,970 --> 05:27:21,697 and I agree. Some of the 9763 05:27:22,268 --> 05:27:23,236 concerns is what commissioner 9764 05:27:23,236 --> 05:27:23,903 regalado was speaking to of the 9765 05:27:23,903 --> 05:27:27,503 banners and keeping it as a 9766 05:27:28,600 --> 05:27:28,674 sanctuary. The difficulty is, 9767 05:27:28,674 --> 05:27:32,612 I don't think it is that per 9768 05:27:32,612 --> 05:27:33,312 se, I think it is more 9769 05:27:33,312 --> 05:27:35,712 regulated thing. I understand. 9770 05:27:38,170 --> 05:27:38,751 And I am not calling out the 9771 05:27:38,751 --> 05:27:42,351 atomic bomb but the reality is 9772 05:27:45,191 --> 05:27:45,992 some of these parks and 9773 05:27:45,992 --> 05:27:46,693 certainly the programs can 9774 05:27:46,693 --> 05:27:48,428 cease to exist if we don't 9775 05:27:48,428 --> 05:27:51,428 start to monetize the different 9776 05:27:54,501 --> 05:27:55,368 options. That is not me saying 9777 05:27:55,368 --> 05:27:58,968 babies are going to die, that 9778 05:27:59,500 --> 05:28:00,600 is just a reality. That is not 9779 05:28:00,600 --> 05:28:01,808 me doing fear tactics, it is 9780 05:28:01,808 --> 05:28:03,510 reality. I don't see shutting 9781 05:28:03,510 --> 05:28:05,450 down parks but programs can 9782 05:28:05,450 --> 05:28:08,645 suffer as a result of funding 9783 05:28:10,451 --> 05:28:11,152 issues. Look, I understand it 9784 05:28:11,152 --> 05:28:12,653 is not ideal but it is also the 9785 05:28:12,653 --> 05:28:14,755 idea is that if you have a nice 9786 05:28:14,755 --> 05:28:18,355 kiosk that is a wayfinder that 9787 05:28:18,992 --> 05:28:19,960 allows you to call. It 9788 05:28:19,960 --> 05:28:21,262 circulates a couple nearby 9789 05:28:21,262 --> 05:28:21,896 restaurants that are across the 9790 05:28:21,896 --> 05:28:24,896 street from the park or 9791 05:28:27,100 --> 05:28:27,935 something like that I think it 9792 05:28:27,935 --> 05:28:28,636 is very amenable and doable. I 9793 05:28:28,636 --> 05:28:30,839 respect what you're saying. 9794 05:28:30,839 --> 05:28:32,839 Vice chair? 9795 05:28:32,907 --> 05:28:34,509 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. 9796 05:28:34,509 --> 05:28:38,109 First of all let me just 9797 05:28:38,880 --> 05:28:39,880 publicly say thank you for 9798 05:28:39,880 --> 05:28:42,280 allowing the modification of 9799 05:28:43,285 --> 05:28:44,520 the original language. The 9800 05:28:44,520 --> 05:28:46,452 modification that you made 9801 05:28:56,598 --> 05:28:57,565 allow for the funding that is 9802 05:28:57,565 --> 05:28:58,499 captured now to be used in our 9803 05:28:58,499 --> 05:28:59,133 parks throughout the county. 9804 05:28:59,133 --> 05:28:59,801 So I take my hat off to you on 9805 05:28:59,801 --> 05:29:03,401 that. Secondly, I am not quite 9806 05:29:06,641 --> 05:29:07,609 sure if we will have the same 9807 05:29:07,609 --> 05:29:10,609 number of interest in certain 9808 05:29:14,116 --> 05:29:15,484 districts in this county to 9809 05:29:15,484 --> 05:29:16,840 advertise a certain parks. The 9810 05:29:16,840 --> 05:29:16,785 demographics are different. 9811 05:29:16,785 --> 05:29:17,719 The impact on the revenue would 9812 05:29:17,719 --> 05:29:19,288 be different. But more than 9813 05:29:19,288 --> 05:29:20,223 anything there are a majority 9814 05:29:20,223 --> 05:29:23,823 not the majority but there are 9815 05:29:24,493 --> 05:29:25,194 quite a few parks that are 9816 05:29:25,194 --> 05:29:26,228 currently not receiving any 9817 05:29:26,228 --> 05:29:28,864 attention as we speak. The 9818 05:29:28,864 --> 05:29:31,864 programs, the parks, they are 9819 05:29:33,360 --> 05:29:35,738 deplorable. And asking us to 9820 05:29:35,738 --> 05:29:39,338 take the sanctuary and turn it 9821 05:29:41,244 --> 05:29:43,644 it to an advertisement 9822 05:29:43,713 --> 05:29:46,113 situation where people can 9823 05:29:46,649 --> 05:29:47,717 actually promote to certain 9824 05:29:47,717 --> 05:29:50,117 people certain products and 9825 05:29:53,190 --> 05:29:53,824 certain items, I do believe 9826 05:29:53,824 --> 05:29:54,658 certain communities will be 9827 05:29:54,658 --> 05:29:55,358 left out. This is not 9828 05:29:55,358 --> 05:29:56,526 something I am just saying just 9829 05:29:56,526 --> 05:30:00,126 to say it. But if you 9830 05:30:00,497 --> 05:30:03,497 currently look at areas now 9831 05:30:04,340 --> 05:30:06,303 where there are a majority of 9832 05:30:06,303 --> 05:30:09,903 parks, you will see the huge 9833 05:30:18,148 --> 05:30:19,116 difference between parks and 9834 05:30:19,116 --> 05:30:20,490 parks and municipalities. You 9835 05:30:20,490 --> 05:30:20,751 will also see where people are 9836 05:30:20,751 --> 05:30:21,619 willing to spend their money. 9837 05:30:21,619 --> 05:30:22,386 I doubt if I get the same 9838 05:30:22,386 --> 05:30:25,386 advertisers to come to district 9839 05:30:33,798 --> 05:30:34,599 9 and advertise in district 9 9840 05:30:34,599 --> 05:30:35,366 parks. Because district 9 9841 05:30:35,366 --> 05:30:36,167 parks still have buildings that 9842 05:30:36,167 --> 05:30:37,101 were built in the 1940s and 9843 05:30:37,101 --> 05:30:37,802 1950s and we haven't seen any 9844 05:30:37,802 --> 05:30:38,602 major updates to actually 9845 05:30:38,602 --> 05:30:39,603 invite people into the 9846 05:30:39,603 --> 05:30:40,705 neighborhood to discuss 9847 05:30:40,705 --> 05:30:41,339 advertisement opportunities. 9848 05:30:41,339 --> 05:30:42,173 Lastly let me just say this, I 9849 05:30:42,173 --> 05:30:44,800 am totally in support of 9850 05:30:44,800 --> 05:30:47,800 finding another way to generate 9851 05:30:47,445 --> 05:30:48,312 revenue for our parks. But I 9852 05:30:48,312 --> 05:30:51,312 think the equity argument has 9853 05:30:52,840 --> 05:30:52,717 to be at the forefront. 9854 05:30:52,717 --> 05:30:56,317 Currently it is not at the 9855 05:31:02,461 --> 05:31:03,395 forefront and currently where 9856 05:31:03,395 --> 05:31:04,329 you find dilapidated parks, you 9857 05:31:04,329 --> 05:31:04,997 also see a correlation of 9858 05:31:04,997 --> 05:31:05,931 crime. Not just crime but 9859 05:31:05,931 --> 05:31:06,931 higher crime. And not just 9860 05:31:06,931 --> 05:31:08,132 higher crime, grotesque crimes. 9861 05:31:08,132 --> 05:31:08,667 And not those grotesque crimes 9862 05:31:08,667 --> 05:31:11,203 but you also find trauma 9863 05:31:11,203 --> 05:31:13,603 induced behaviors because there 9864 05:31:17,109 --> 05:31:17,976 aren't places where people who 9865 05:31:17,976 --> 05:31:18,610 are already struggling to 9866 05:31:18,610 --> 05:31:19,478 survive and make it in this 9867 05:31:19,478 --> 05:31:20,880 county that they can just go 9868 05:31:20,880 --> 05:31:22,481 and find solitude. It is 9869 05:31:22,481 --> 05:31:25,351 impossible to do that where you 9870 05:31:25,351 --> 05:31:28,351 have communities that have been 9871 05:31:29,555 --> 05:31:30,590 begging for parks to be 9872 05:31:30,590 --> 05:31:31,291 modified to fit today's 9873 05:31:31,291 --> 05:31:33,291 environment. And unfortunately 9874 05:31:36,940 --> 05:31:39,694 we add on the idea that 9875 05:31:40,333 --> 05:31:42,733 property taxes modifying that 9876 05:31:43,603 --> 05:31:46,806 area of revenue MAY have a huge 9877 05:31:46,806 --> 05:31:50,900 impact on parks. The fact of 9878 05:31:50,900 --> 05:31:54,809 the matter is if it has a huge 9879 05:31:55,315 --> 05:31:55,949 impact on parks in coral 9880 05:31:55,949 --> 05:31:59,549 gables, it is going to destroy 9881 05:31:59,686 --> 05:32:00,687 those parks that are already in 9882 05:32:00,687 --> 05:32:01,454 dilapidated communities where 9883 05:32:01,454 --> 05:32:02,222 communities have shown no love 9884 05:32:02,222 --> 05:32:05,222 for their parks. If you're 9885 05:32:05,258 --> 05:32:07,658 really talking about generating 9886 05:32:08,428 --> 05:32:09,362 revenue, we need to talk about 9887 05:32:09,362 --> 05:32:12,900 allowing for there to be a 9888 05:32:12,900 --> 05:32:13,901 sliding scale. And that 9889 05:32:13,901 --> 05:32:15,369 sliding scale should begin with 9890 05:32:15,369 --> 05:32:20,169 if we make money in one part of 9891 05:32:21,442 --> 05:32:22,410 e-town that has more 9892 05:32:22,410 --> 05:32:24,810 opportunities to get greater 9893 05:32:26,447 --> 05:32:27,247 investors into these 9894 05:32:27,247 --> 05:32:28,115 advertisement apparatuses then 9895 05:32:28,115 --> 05:32:31,715 we should begin with the parks 9896 05:32:34,922 --> 05:32:36,256 that are already struggling to 9897 05:32:36,256 --> 05:32:36,891 keep its doors open along with 9898 05:32:36,891 --> 05:32:37,825 the programs and those monies 9899 05:32:37,825 --> 05:32:38,327 should go there first. I do 9900 05:32:38,327 --> 05:32:39,393 not believe that this 9901 05:32:39,393 --> 05:32:42,393 particular moment that we have 9902 05:32:44,332 --> 05:32:45,400 arrived to that position that I 9903 05:32:45,400 --> 05:32:46,300 have just announced. For those 9904 05:32:46,300 --> 05:32:48,703 reasons I do believe today I 9905 05:32:48,703 --> 05:32:49,704 will be a know until we 9906 05:32:49,704 --> 05:32:52,707 actually get a formula in place 9907 05:32:52,707 --> 05:32:56,307 that would allow for equity to 9908 05:32:56,311 --> 05:32:56,978 be had across the board and 9909 05:32:56,978 --> 05:32:59,113 particularly in the communities 9910 05:32:59,113 --> 05:33:02,113 where the median income and 9911 05:33:02,751 --> 05:33:03,452 where the majority of the folks 9912 05:33:03,452 --> 05:33:05,320 traveling to find a place to 9913 05:33:05,320 --> 05:33:06,821 have that quiet moment that 9914 05:33:06,821 --> 05:33:09,691 can't afford to go to places 9915 05:33:09,691 --> 05:33:13,495 like a sky zone or a bigger 9916 05:33:13,495 --> 05:33:14,363 park where they can take the 9917 05:33:14,363 --> 05:33:15,998 kids on go carts. Until those 9918 05:33:15,998 --> 05:33:20,134 things happen I will have to be 9919 05:33:20,134 --> 05:33:21,403 a no on this. I trust you and 9920 05:33:21,403 --> 05:33:22,505 I believe you but I do not 9921 05:33:22,505 --> 05:33:25,374 believe that the end result 9922 05:33:25,374 --> 05:33:28,430 will meet the expectations that 9923 05:33:28,430 --> 05:33:28,610 you are seeking when you're 9924 05:33:28,610 --> 05:33:31,100 pushing this piece of 9925 05:33:32,915 --> 05:33:33,883 legislation. 9926 05:33:33,883 --> 05:33:34,183 >> thank you vice chair. 9927 05:33:34,183 --> 05:33:36,180 Mcnamara? 9928 05:33:36,180 --> 05:33:37,153 >> thank you MR. Chair. So I 9929 05:33:37,153 --> 05:33:40,753 briefly want to say of course 9930 05:33:44,126 --> 05:33:45,600 we want to raise revenue. 9931 05:33:45,600 --> 05:33:48,600 There were some changes made 9932 05:33:53,369 --> 05:33:54,304 that was appreciative. Our 9933 05:33:54,304 --> 05:33:55,400 parks director want to speak 9934 05:33:55,400 --> 05:33:58,400 briefly on concerns about being 9935 05:33:58,474 --> 05:33:59,409 too specific at this point and 9936 05:33:59,409 --> 05:34:00,310 as much as possible mean more 9937 05:34:00,310 --> 05:34:02,710 to and implementing order 9938 05:34:03,213 --> 05:34:04,140 should it pass public scrutiny. 9939 05:34:04,140 --> 05:34:07,614 It would address some of the 9940 05:34:07,951 --> 05:34:11,288 details of what signage is more 9941 05:34:11,288 --> 05:34:13,688 aesthetically appropriate us as 9942 05:34:19,329 --> 05:34:20,630 well as -- [Indiscernible]. 9943 05:34:20,630 --> 05:34:20,965 With that if we could allow her 9944 05:34:20,965 --> 05:34:22,399 to say a few words please? 9945 05:34:22,399 --> 05:34:25,399 >> sure christina. As you do 9946 05:34:25,669 --> 05:34:26,803 the attorneys have come to tell 9947 05:34:26,803 --> 05:34:29,803 me they have an amendment 9948 05:34:31,410 --> 05:34:32,760 prepared based on commissioner 9949 05:34:32,760 --> 05:34:33,377 regalado concerns. It is in 9950 05:34:33,377 --> 05:34:34,145 the middle of what commissioner 9951 05:34:34,145 --> 05:34:36,547 regalado said and what you are 9952 05:34:36,547 --> 05:34:37,448 about to say. So I think it 9953 05:34:37,448 --> 05:34:38,282 MAY cover what you are about to 9954 05:34:38,282 --> 05:34:39,717 say. Go ahead and say it 9955 05:34:39,717 --> 05:34:40,718 anyway we will hear the final 9956 05:34:40,718 --> 05:34:44,318 verdict of the lawyers on what 9957 05:34:49,930 --> 05:34:50,600 they recommend. 9958 05:34:50,600 --> 05:34:51,129 >> good afternoon MR. Chair 9959 05:34:51,129 --> 05:34:51,930 and commissioners. Christina 9960 05:34:51,930 --> 05:34:52,530 white director I am 9961 05:34:52,530 --> 05:34:53,164 appreciative of this 9962 05:34:53,164 --> 05:34:53,998 conversation. Because of 9963 05:34:53,998 --> 05:34:54,732 course as parks director I am 9964 05:34:54,732 --> 05:34:55,566 very thankful to hear there are 9965 05:34:55,566 --> 05:34:57,680 some regulation that MAY be we 9966 05:34:57,680 --> 05:35:00,680 are talking about doing and 9967 05:35:03,842 --> 05:35:04,442 seeing. But we also understand 9968 05:35:04,442 --> 05:35:05,343 that the economic times are 9969 05:35:05,343 --> 05:35:06,277 what they are and all ideas for 9970 05:35:06,277 --> 05:35:06,945 revenues are welcome. As the 9971 05:35:06,945 --> 05:35:07,946 mayor said, I just wanted to 9972 05:35:07,946 --> 05:35:11,546 put my concerns on the record 9973 05:35:19,724 --> 05:35:20,626 about being too specific in the 9974 05:35:20,626 --> 05:35:21,193 charter. The charter as 9975 05:35:21,193 --> 05:35:22,960 everybody knows is very 9976 05:35:22,960 --> 05:35:22,761 difficult to change in the 9977 05:35:22,761 --> 05:35:23,695 future. We don't know what 9978 05:35:23,695 --> 05:35:24,363 will happen in five, 10, 15 9979 05:35:24,363 --> 05:35:25,297 years from now. To be specific 9980 05:35:25,297 --> 05:35:26,165 of what we are going to allow 9981 05:35:26,165 --> 05:35:26,865 could end up locking us or 9982 05:35:26,865 --> 05:35:27,532 boxing us in these restrictions 9983 05:35:27,532 --> 05:35:31,132 in the future. Not just from 9984 05:35:34,206 --> 05:35:35,700 the revenue perspective but 9985 05:35:35,700 --> 05:35:35,874 also practical concerns. Such 9986 05:35:35,874 --> 05:35:36,741 as tournaments that goes on 9987 05:35:36,741 --> 05:35:39,141 right now, soccer, football, 9988 05:35:39,711 --> 05:35:40,379 baseball that do exist. We do 9989 05:35:40,379 --> 05:35:42,140 allow banners to go up during 9990 05:35:42,140 --> 05:35:42,648 those. If we start restricting 9991 05:35:42,648 --> 05:35:43,850 how much can go up then we're 9992 05:35:43,850 --> 05:35:46,850 going to start having problems 9993 05:35:47,419 --> 05:35:48,220 with what we allow within our 9994 05:35:48,220 --> 05:35:50,790 parks. What I wanted to 9995 05:35:50,790 --> 05:35:51,791 suggest if the board was going 9996 05:35:51,791 --> 05:35:55,391 to move forward with this item 9997 05:35:57,863 --> 05:35:58,698 is to have it be general 9998 05:35:58,698 --> 05:35:59,365 however you see fit. And we do 9999 05:35:59,365 --> 05:36:00,267 come back as we have been 10000 05:36:00,267 --> 05:36:01,201 talking about a committee and 10001 05:36:01,201 --> 05:36:01,835 otherwise with follow-up 10002 05:36:01,835 --> 05:36:02,536 legislation and internal 10003 05:36:02,536 --> 05:36:05,405 procedures to put in those 10004 05:36:05,405 --> 05:36:06,500 additional restrictions that 10005 05:36:06,500 --> 05:36:08,405 you all see fit. 10006 05:36:12,790 --> 05:36:13,130 >> thank you director. If the 10007 05:36:13,130 --> 05:36:13,647 attorneys can bring up the 10008 05:36:13,647 --> 05:36:16,647 amendment that they have I 10009 05:36:16,950 --> 05:36:17,851 think it will give you ease to 10010 05:36:17,851 --> 05:36:19,152 commissioner regalado concern. 10011 05:36:19,152 --> 05:36:21,152 Go ahead. 10012 05:36:25,625 --> 05:36:26,493 >> chair moved to amend 11 820 10013 05:36:26,493 --> 05:36:27,494 that all advertising must be 10014 05:36:27,494 --> 05:36:28,495 consistent with standards 10015 05:36:28,495 --> 05:36:31,495 established by ordinance of the 10016 05:36:34,300 --> 05:36:35,235 board. And that will be added 10017 05:36:35,235 --> 05:36:35,935 to the charter and to the 10018 05:36:35,935 --> 05:36:36,836 ballot language we would figure 10019 05:36:36,836 --> 05:36:37,670 out how to put the ballot 10020 05:36:37,670 --> 05:36:40,106 language to include that. This 10021 05:36:40,106 --> 05:36:41,107 would essentially not allow the 10022 05:36:41,107 --> 05:36:41,674 advertising to occur until you 10023 05:36:41,674 --> 05:36:43,275 establish standards by 10024 05:36:43,275 --> 05:36:44,900 ordinance. 10025 05:36:44,900 --> 05:36:47,900 >> it doesn't say the fencing 10026 05:36:47,146 --> 05:36:48,113 on the charter so it is still 10027 05:36:48,113 --> 05:36:51,713 the same issue of the voters 10028 05:37:02,590 --> 05:37:03,928 MAY not be too clear on it. It 10029 05:37:03,928 --> 05:37:04,495 clearly states that we can't do 10030 05:37:04,495 --> 05:37:05,196 anything until this board 10031 05:37:05,196 --> 05:37:06,463 adopts. It is not that it is 10032 05:37:06,463 --> 05:37:07,231 going to happen automatically. 10033 05:37:07,231 --> 05:37:09,233 When it passes we have to take 10034 05:37:09,233 --> 05:37:09,833 action and adopt an ordinance 10035 05:37:09,833 --> 05:37:10,400 surrounding that before they 10036 05:37:10,400 --> 05:37:11,401 can go out and advertise. 10037 05:37:11,401 --> 05:37:12,302 >> I appreciate that. My 10038 05:37:12,302 --> 05:37:13,904 issue is that my residents 10039 05:37:13,904 --> 05:37:17,504 absolutely hate the ads on the 10040 05:37:22,110 --> 05:37:23,646 fences. And to christina! -- 10041 05:37:23,646 --> 05:37:26,460 christina's point. I don't 10042 05:37:31,954 --> 05:37:32,988 think that would impact that. 10043 05:37:32,988 --> 05:37:33,756 I can't support it with that. 10044 05:37:33,756 --> 05:37:34,456 I don't think it will pass 10045 05:37:34,456 --> 05:37:35,256 without speaking to this issue 10046 05:37:35,256 --> 05:37:37,125 because the advertising on 10047 05:37:37,125 --> 05:37:40,280 school sites is so hated by so 10048 05:37:40,280 --> 05:37:41,362 many residents. I want it to 10049 05:37:41,362 --> 05:37:45,562 past which is why I think we 10050 05:37:46,834 --> 05:37:47,835 need to deal with this issue. 10051 05:37:47,835 --> 05:37:48,603 Every resident that I have 10052 05:37:48,603 --> 05:37:49,637 spoken to about advertising in 10053 05:37:49,637 --> 05:37:50,371 our parks the first question 10054 05:37:50,371 --> 05:37:52,506 has been, are you going to do 10055 05:37:52,506 --> 05:37:55,506 with the school district does 10056 05:37:57,477 --> 05:37:58,312 and if so, no. I think given 10057 05:37:58,312 --> 05:38:01,312 what the school district has 10058 05:38:04,160 --> 05:38:04,851 done this is our biggest hurdle 10059 05:38:04,851 --> 05:38:05,552 in order to get support. We 10060 05:38:05,552 --> 05:38:06,386 have so many parks that are 10061 05:38:06,386 --> 05:38:07,553 directly adjacent to 10062 05:38:07,553 --> 05:38:08,421 single-family homes. And just 10063 05:38:08,421 --> 05:38:09,210 like the schools, they hate 10064 05:38:09,210 --> 05:38:12,210 seeing all of those ants. 10065 05:38:16,195 --> 05:38:18,195 >> -- ads. 10066 05:38:22,434 --> 05:38:23,468 >> I am open to it. What I'm 10067 05:38:23,468 --> 05:38:24,269 hearing is it is too specific. 10068 05:38:24,269 --> 05:38:25,236 I am okay with what 10069 05:38:25,236 --> 05:38:26,337 commissioner regalado is 10070 05:38:26,337 --> 05:38:29,337 saying. I understand it is 10071 05:38:29,340 --> 05:38:32,340 restrictive so if it doesn't 10072 05:38:32,576 --> 05:38:33,277 pass and the owners don't see 10073 05:38:33,277 --> 05:38:34,312 the benefit of private revenue 10074 05:38:34,312 --> 05:38:37,312 to offset a shortfall of 10075 05:38:38,349 --> 05:38:41,349 taxpayer dollars we can only 10076 05:38:43,987 --> 05:38:44,621 take the horse to the lake. If 10077 05:38:44,621 --> 05:38:46,523 you don't want to drink the 10078 05:38:46,523 --> 05:38:47,490 water we can't force them to. 10079 05:38:47,490 --> 05:38:50,490 I am comfortable with that 10080 05:38:51,270 --> 05:38:53,427 amendment. Gilbert, I would 10081 05:38:55,231 --> 05:38:56,265 like to call a vote on it. 10082 05:38:56,265 --> 05:38:59,265 >> MR. CHAIRMAN thank you. On 10083 05:39:01,337 --> 05:39:02,271 just a couple of points and 10084 05:39:02,271 --> 05:39:02,938 your voters MAY not be okay 10085 05:39:02,938 --> 05:39:04,390 with that. I don't know if I 10086 05:39:04,390 --> 05:39:05,674 have heard that complaint. We 10087 05:39:05,674 --> 05:39:06,641 have had advertisements around 10088 05:39:06,641 --> 05:39:09,641 parks and schools around miami 10089 05:39:13,481 --> 05:39:14,349 gardens and we haven't had the 10090 05:39:14,349 --> 05:39:15,116 complaint. Everything has to 10091 05:39:15,116 --> 05:39:16,500 be relative to the other thing. 10092 05:39:16,500 --> 05:39:16,918 We are going to have no money 10093 05:39:16,918 --> 05:39:18,886 for parks. Are they okay with 10094 05:39:18,886 --> 05:39:22,486 hiring to vent -- higher rental 10095 05:39:28,595 --> 05:39:29,262 fees? In an ideal world we 10096 05:39:29,262 --> 05:39:30,230 would do it. We are not in an 10097 05:39:30,230 --> 05:39:32,499 ideal world. We are going to a 10098 05:39:32,499 --> 05:39:33,199 less ideal world. And with 10099 05:39:33,199 --> 05:39:35,435 regards to vice CHAIRMAN, i 10100 05:39:35,435 --> 05:39:38,938 agree with him but I don't 10101 05:39:38,938 --> 05:39:39,839 think the answer is not putting 10102 05:39:39,839 --> 05:39:40,473 the item before the voters. 10103 05:39:40,473 --> 05:39:42,141 When it comes back to this 10104 05:39:42,141 --> 05:39:45,141 board making sure that the 10105 05:39:45,210 --> 05:39:46,145 money is distributed in a way 10106 05:39:46,145 --> 05:39:48,545 that helps everyone. The 10107 05:39:49,882 --> 05:39:50,749 reason why we changed it in 10108 05:39:50,749 --> 05:39:52,851 committee and you change in a 10109 05:39:52,851 --> 05:39:55,851 committee was because, we have 10110 05:39:58,790 --> 05:39:59,490 invested our general dollars 10111 05:39:59,490 --> 05:40:00,158 our general fund dollars and 10112 05:40:00,158 --> 05:40:03,158 parks. It has been everybody's 10113 05:40:04,228 --> 05:40:04,895 money was been infected -- 10114 05:40:04,895 --> 05:40:07,895 invested in the parks. It 10115 05:40:14,370 --> 05:40:14,971 would be fair to actually take 10116 05:40:14,971 --> 05:40:15,939 the profit and keep it in that 10117 05:40:15,939 --> 05:40:16,606 area. We understood that and 10118 05:40:16,606 --> 05:40:17,440 that is why the item was 10119 05:40:17,440 --> 05:40:18,141 amended. I think this item 10120 05:40:18,141 --> 05:40:19,109 should go forward and I think 10121 05:40:19,109 --> 05:40:20,110 we should be able to advertise 10122 05:40:20,110 --> 05:40:22,678 to the greatest extent possible 10123 05:40:22,678 --> 05:40:23,279 that is not completely 10124 05:40:23,279 --> 05:40:24,180 offensive. We have to be 10125 05:40:24,180 --> 05:40:26,916 serious about finding ways to 10126 05:40:26,916 --> 05:40:29,916 offset the looming budget hold 10127 05:40:32,588 --> 05:40:36,188 that already exist in parks. I 10128 05:40:38,160 --> 05:40:39,394 moved this item. 10129 05:40:39,394 --> 05:40:41,394 >> commissioner regalado you 10130 05:40:45,667 --> 05:40:46,501 are still a no? We will remove 10131 05:40:46,501 --> 05:40:47,101 the memory. All in favor 10132 05:40:47,101 --> 05:40:47,468 signify by saying aye. 10133 05:40:47,468 --> 05:40:49,468 >> aye. 10134 05:40:51,720 --> 05:40:53,640 >> all opposed say nay. See 10135 05:40:53,640 --> 05:40:57,240 the item pass. Back on two 10136 05:41:01,715 --> 05:41:02,716 reading items. MR. Or turning? 10137 05:41:02,716 --> 05:41:03,750 >> MR. Chair if I MAY? I was 10138 05:41:03,750 --> 05:41:06,750 advised by the county attorney 10139 05:41:11,490 --> 05:41:11,891 that I had to risk it -- 10140 05:41:11,891 --> 05:41:12,992 reconsider 5.0. 10141 05:41:12,992 --> 05:41:15,227 >> show 5.0 and seconded by 10142 05:41:15,227 --> 05:41:16,950 commissioner gonzales. Signify 10143 05:41:16,950 --> 05:41:19,950 by saying aye. Show it 10144 05:41:20,799 --> 05:41:21,767 reconsider. Mdm. Attorney? 10145 05:41:21,767 --> 05:41:22,767 >> this item to be 10146 05:41:22,767 --> 05:41:23,969 re-advertising it will come 10147 05:41:23,969 --> 05:41:25,337 back in the SEPTEMBER 1 agenda 10148 05:41:25,337 --> 05:41:27,271 to be voted on to either 10149 05:41:27,271 --> 05:41:29,271 approve or deny. 10150 05:41:30,409 --> 05:41:31,377 >> is there any action I need 10151 05:41:31,377 --> 05:41:34,977 to be taken by the commission? 10152 05:41:36,815 --> 05:41:37,716 >> no MR. Chair. 10153 05:41:37,716 --> 05:41:37,949 >> we are onto the second 10154 05:41:37,949 --> 05:41:38,950 reading. 10155 05:41:38,950 --> 05:41:39,717 >> with the airport item if we 10156 05:41:39,717 --> 05:41:40,753 could do a real quick? If I 10157 05:41:40,753 --> 05:41:44,353 can have the attorneys read the 10158 05:41:45,524 --> 05:41:47,524 airport motion? 10159 05:41:51,363 --> 05:41:54,963 >> you can read it go ahead. 10160 05:41:56,669 --> 05:41:57,602 Aviation item. 10161 05:41:57,602 --> 05:41:57,803 >> one second, we will get 10162 05:41:57,803 --> 05:41:58,637 that. 10163 05:41:58,637 --> 05:42:01,370 >> MR. CHAIRMAN can I 10164 05:42:01,474 --> 05:42:02,542 recognize my interns? 10165 05:42:02,542 --> 05:42:04,542 >> yes. 10166 05:42:09,810 --> 05:42:10,149 >> are these separate? 10167 05:42:10,149 --> 05:42:11,840 >> they are leaving and they 10168 05:42:11,840 --> 05:42:12,520 have to go back to the district 10169 05:42:12,520 --> 05:42:13,190 to get some work done. Text 10170 05:42:13,190 --> 05:42:13,586 this is separate from the youth 10171 05:42:13,586 --> 05:42:15,288 engagement program? 10172 05:42:15,288 --> 05:42:18,288 >> yes. We would like to 10173 05:42:21,194 --> 05:42:21,862 recognize and thank allison 10174 05:42:21,862 --> 05:42:23,196 reyes, alan sanchez for their 10175 05:42:23,196 --> 05:42:26,796 help and support in our office 10176 05:42:29,369 --> 05:42:30,271 and internship program. They 10177 05:42:30,271 --> 05:42:30,571 are right back here. 10178 05:42:30,571 --> 05:42:32,571 [Applause] 10179 05:42:33,106 --> 05:42:34,740 I like it. It is worth it. 10180 05:42:34,740 --> 05:42:35,742 >> are the youth engagement 10181 05:42:35,742 --> 05:42:38,742 program students can you all 10182 05:42:40,948 --> 05:42:43,348 stand up? All right. 10183 05:42:44,184 --> 05:42:45,185 [Applause] 10184 05:42:45,185 --> 05:42:46,219 You can stay standing up for a 10185 05:42:46,219 --> 05:42:49,219 second. This is the second 10186 05:42:49,956 --> 05:42:50,724 year that we have the youth 10187 05:42:50,724 --> 05:42:51,559 engagement program ran by our 10188 05:42:51,559 --> 05:42:53,559 intergovernmental affairs team. 10189 05:43:04,872 --> 05:43:05,740 I see if -- a new. We cannot 10190 05:43:05,740 --> 05:43:06,440 keep up. We had over 50 10191 05:43:06,440 --> 05:43:07,375 applications this year. I told 10192 05:43:07,375 --> 05:43:08,175 him this one I went to speak to 10193 05:43:08,175 --> 05:43:09,143 them last week. You are 10194 05:43:09,143 --> 05:43:11,212 fortunate and should be honored 10195 05:43:11,212 --> 05:43:14,812 to know that you were selected 10196 05:43:15,616 --> 05:43:16,584 among several others about 10197 05:43:16,584 --> 05:43:17,485 double the amount that made the 10198 05:43:17,485 --> 05:43:19,485 cut. Congratulation. This 10199 05:43:20,355 --> 05:43:22,755 particular class and last 10200 05:43:26,494 --> 05:43:27,195 year's class was great. It 10201 05:43:27,195 --> 05:43:28,290 will be a class that I remember 10202 05:43:28,290 --> 05:43:31,290 it was the inaugural class. 10203 05:43:33,502 --> 05:43:34,136 This class is extremely, 10204 05:43:34,136 --> 05:43:34,970 extremely smart, educated, 10205 05:43:34,970 --> 05:43:35,537 polished. They asked all the 10206 05:43:35,537 --> 05:43:36,905 right questions. I was 10207 05:43:36,905 --> 05:43:37,772 surprised to hear as many 10208 05:43:37,772 --> 05:43:40,172 questions. I understand there 10209 05:43:48,500 --> 05:43:49,170 is one particular student who 10210 05:43:49,170 --> 05:43:49,918 is leading the way with others 10211 05:43:49,918 --> 05:43:50,553 and has encouraged others to 10212 05:43:50,553 --> 05:43:52,953 start podcasts. Because she 10213 05:43:54,256 --> 05:43:55,257 has one of her own and folks 10214 05:43:55,257 --> 05:43:57,590 are trying to ask parents to 10215 05:43:57,590 --> 05:43:58,427 buy them recording equipment 10216 05:43:58,427 --> 05:43:59,628 and broadcast equipment. So 10217 05:43:59,628 --> 05:44:01,331 congratulations. But honestly 10218 05:44:01,331 --> 05:44:03,833 all of you have led the way. I 10219 05:44:03,833 --> 05:44:06,833 would've never thought in a 10220 05:44:12,842 --> 05:44:13,442 million the years to do what 10221 05:44:13,442 --> 05:44:13,910 you guys are doing so 10222 05:44:13,910 --> 05:44:14,844 congratulations. 10223 05:44:14,844 --> 05:44:15,578 >> I actually want to thank 10224 05:44:15,578 --> 05:44:16,145 you for putting this program 10225 05:44:16,145 --> 05:44:18,545 together. You have the 10226 05:44:21,985 --> 05:44:22,853 foresight to do so to help 10227 05:44:22,853 --> 05:44:23,587 shape the next generation of 10228 05:44:23,587 --> 05:44:24,321 leaders. I know last year and 10229 05:44:24,321 --> 05:44:26,856 this year both of the 10230 05:44:26,856 --> 05:44:29,256 appointments that were for 10231 05:44:34,731 --> 05:44:35,765 district 4 found it 10232 05:44:35,765 --> 05:44:36,433 immeasurably interested in 10233 05:44:36,433 --> 05:44:37,366 everything that we are doing. 10234 05:44:37,366 --> 05:44:38,367 Before it wasn't on the radar. 10235 05:44:38,367 --> 05:44:38,902 I want to thank you for putting 10236 05:44:38,902 --> 05:44:40,902 this forward. 10237 05:44:42,906 --> 05:44:44,410 >> thank you commissioner. 10238 05:44:44,410 --> 05:44:45,800 >> congratulations. This is a 10239 05:44:45,800 --> 05:44:46,442 great deal and it gets these 10240 05:44:46,442 --> 05:44:47,177 kids involved in government and 10241 05:44:47,177 --> 05:44:50,777 understand what they can do if 10242 05:44:51,480 --> 05:44:52,616 they actually speak up. And 10243 05:44:52,616 --> 05:44:56,120 from district 13 and it is the 10244 05:44:56,120 --> 05:44:57,721 best one. Josc garcia, are you 10245 05:44:57,721 --> 05:45:00,721 there? Thank you so much. 10246 05:45:03,361 --> 05:45:05,361 Congratulations. 10247 05:45:10,435 --> 05:45:13,435 >> they are all wonderful. I 10248 05:45:15,673 --> 05:45:18,730 democrats I question district 10249 05:45:20,144 --> 05:45:20,779 13 is the best one. 10250 05:45:20,779 --> 05:45:21,713 >> they are all good. 10251 05:45:21,713 --> 05:45:22,914 >> it is not all true. Not 10252 05:45:22,914 --> 05:45:23,848 everybody is the same. Some 10253 05:45:23,848 --> 05:45:27,180 parents will tell you that but 10254 05:45:27,180 --> 05:45:27,752 not everybody is the same. 10255 05:45:27,752 --> 05:45:31,352 Everyone is love and care for 10256 05:45:31,590 --> 05:45:34,590 but different. Yeah, I know 10257 05:45:35,460 --> 05:45:37,620 right. Senator garcia has 10258 05:45:37,620 --> 05:45:39,462 experienced in the legislator 10259 05:45:43,668 --> 05:45:44,469 such as lopez and vice chair 10260 05:45:44,469 --> 05:45:45,404 mcghee. This is something that 10261 05:45:45,404 --> 05:45:48,540 the state legislature does as a 10262 05:45:48,540 --> 05:45:49,274 program. All my kids all 10263 05:45:49,274 --> 05:45:52,874 through my kids have done the 10264 05:45:54,413 --> 05:45:55,281 program for several years in 10265 05:45:55,281 --> 05:45:56,348 the state legislature. The 10266 05:45:56,348 --> 05:45:59,348 amount of information they have 10267 05:46:00,987 --> 05:46:01,921 learned and gathered from it 10268 05:46:01,921 --> 05:46:03,220 has been very very helpful. In 10269 05:46:03,220 --> 05:46:03,623 fact they have learned things 10270 05:46:03,623 --> 05:46:07,223 there that they did not learn 10271 05:46:07,325 --> 05:46:07,993 from their own dad. And their 10272 05:46:07,993 --> 05:46:08,927 dad is in government. I think 10273 05:46:08,927 --> 05:46:09,928 it will take a lot out of this 10274 05:46:09,928 --> 05:46:11,300 and make sure you soak it all 10275 05:46:11,300 --> 05:46:13,300 up. Congratulations. 10276 05:46:17,105 --> 05:46:18,871 [Applause] 10277 05:46:18,871 --> 05:46:21,410 Mme. Attorney are we ready with 10278 05:46:21,410 --> 05:46:21,341 the motion by commissioner 10279 05:46:21,341 --> 05:46:22,909 regalado? 10280 05:46:22,909 --> 05:46:24,909 >> commissioner regalado moves 10281 05:46:26,546 --> 05:46:26,813 to amend r 1234 b 10282 05:46:26,813 --> 05:46:27,413 25 which 10283 05:46:27,413 --> 05:46:29,810 approved the purchase of 10284 05:46:29,810 --> 05:46:31,385 certain real property rights 10285 05:46:31,385 --> 05:46:33,785 pursuant to the proposed 10286 05:46:34,521 --> 05:46:36,921 amended lease agreement between 10287 05:46:37,190 --> 05:46:38,900 miami-dade county and miami llc 10288 05:46:38,900 --> 05:46:41,900 for airport property to offer 10289 05:46:41,928 --> 05:46:42,596 as a county mayor to eliminate 10290 05:46:42,596 --> 05:46:43,297 the provision draft amended 10291 05:46:43,297 --> 05:46:45,697 agreement requiring the lessee 10292 05:46:48,401 --> 05:46:51,401 to pay additional monthly -- 10293 05:46:51,739 --> 05:46:53,739 [Indiscernible]. Rental will 10294 05:46:54,908 --> 05:46:55,809 be paid. 10295 05:46:55,809 --> 05:46:56,810 >> it has been moved by 10296 05:46:56,810 --> 05:46:58,810 commissioner regalado and 10297 05:46:59,790 --> 05:47:01,479 seconded by commissioner lopez. 10298 05:47:02,550 --> 05:47:03,117 Any discussion on the motion? 10299 05:47:03,117 --> 05:47:06,117 Seeing none all in favor 10300 05:47:11,692 --> 05:47:12,226 signify by saying aye. Show 10301 05:47:12,226 --> 05:47:14,226 that motion passes. 10302 05:47:15,396 --> 05:47:16,163 Congratulations. We already 10303 05:47:16,163 --> 05:47:16,831 had the reconsideration and 10304 05:47:16,831 --> 05:47:19,831 emotion so now onto second 10305 05:47:24,205 --> 05:47:25,206 reading items. Do I have does 10306 05:47:25,206 --> 05:47:25,773 the attorney need to read all 10307 05:47:25,773 --> 05:47:26,641 of the items? 10308 05:47:26,641 --> 05:47:29,641 >> yes. I will read them 10309 05:47:32,413 --> 05:47:33,470 quickly. Amending sections 10310 05:47:33,470 --> 05:47:33,181 amending sections 30 3c b 10311 05:47:33,181 --> 05:47:34,820 two. 10312 05:47:34,820 --> 05:47:37,820 And 3.3 of the code expanding 10313 05:47:38,486 --> 05:47:39,220 the smart sub zone of the -- 10314 05:47:39,220 --> 05:47:41,220 [Indiscernible]. Southwest. 10315 05:47:42,891 --> 05:47:43,792 27th avenue and southwest. 28th 10316 05:47:43,792 --> 05:47:44,692 ln. Located within a 10317 05:47:44,692 --> 05:47:46,394 quarter-mile of a public 10318 05:47:46,394 --> 05:47:47,295 transit station dividing 10319 05:47:47,295 --> 05:47:49,130 inclusion in the code and an 10320 05:47:49,130 --> 05:47:51,130 effective date. Ordinance 10321 05:47:52,401 --> 05:47:53,680 relating to the rapid transit 10322 05:47:53,680 --> 05:47:53,836 system section 30 3c of the 10323 05:47:53,836 --> 05:47:56,380 code amending the metro sub 10324 05:47:56,380 --> 05:47:59,380 zone of the rapid transient 10325 05:47:59,607 --> 05:48:02,607 zone providing inclusion in the 10326 05:48:04,380 --> 05:48:05,470 cone and an effective date. 10327 05:48:05,470 --> 05:48:09,247 7d, we are going to get back 10328 05:48:18,427 --> 05:48:19,395 to. And and 7d, requiring the 10329 05:48:19,395 --> 05:48:20,396 county mayor doesn't need to 10330 05:48:20,396 --> 05:48:21,130 develop and implement same-day 10331 05:48:21,130 --> 05:48:23,530 permitting program for certain 10332 05:48:24,200 --> 05:48:25,680 permit applications for certain 10333 05:48:25,680 --> 05:48:25,702 residential products. Provide 10334 05:48:25,702 --> 05:48:26,536 reports every six months 10335 05:48:26,536 --> 05:48:27,537 providing severability 10336 05:48:27,537 --> 05:48:28,204 inclusion in the code in an 10337 05:48:28,204 --> 05:48:31,204 effective date. I have a 10338 05:48:31,875 --> 05:48:32,843 request to bifurcate 7b by 10339 05:48:32,843 --> 05:48:35,243 lopez and by commissioner 10340 05:48:39,148 --> 05:48:40,183 regalado. 10341 05:48:40,183 --> 05:48:40,850 >> can I have a motion on the 10342 05:48:40,850 --> 05:48:43,850 remainder of the items? Moved 10343 05:48:43,887 --> 05:48:46,287 by commissioner gonzalez and 10344 05:48:46,623 --> 05:48:47,590 seconded by commissioner and 10345 05:48:47,590 --> 05:48:50,590 clerk please call the role. 10346 05:48:55,265 --> 05:48:56,332 >> senator garcia. 10347 05:48:56,332 --> 05:48:57,934 >> commissioner gilbert? 10348 05:48:57,934 --> 05:48:58,735 >> commissioner lopez. 10349 05:48:58,735 --> 05:49:00,735 >> yes. 10350 05:49:05,342 --> 05:49:07,111 >> commissioner regalado, yes. 10351 05:49:07,111 --> 05:49:07,275 >> commissioner steinberg, yes 10352 05:49:07,275 --> 05:49:09,275 . 10353 05:49:09,680 --> 05:49:12,800 >> vice chair mcghee, yes. 10354 05:49:12,683 --> 05:49:14,683 >> chair rodriguez, yes. 10355 05:49:18,989 --> 05:49:21,989 >> you are recognize on d. 10356 05:49:35,600 --> 05:49:37,600 >> -- [Indiscernible]. 10357 05:49:38,343 --> 05:49:40,743 Correct the map graphical 10358 05:49:41,413 --> 05:49:42,381 depictions property on 6th 10359 05:49:42,381 --> 05:49:45,981 street. It is not within the 10360 05:49:46,170 --> 05:49:49,617 rtc but erroneously on the map. 10361 05:49:51,890 --> 05:49:52,891 >> MR. CHAIRMAN I would like 10362 05:49:52,891 --> 05:49:55,930 to put my comments on the 10363 05:49:55,930 --> 05:49:58,930 record. Don't know if everyone 10364 05:49:59,231 --> 05:50:00,131 has been following in the urban 10365 05:50:00,131 --> 05:50:02,301 area we have very little green 10366 05:50:02,301 --> 05:50:05,301 space. These two parcels that 10367 05:50:06,205 --> 05:50:08,674 I am removing from the rtc zone 10368 05:50:08,674 --> 05:50:10,910 is because they are the 10369 05:50:10,910 --> 05:50:13,310 traditional allen morris park. 10370 05:50:13,646 --> 05:50:15,247 There was a contention around 10371 05:50:15,247 --> 05:50:18,247 what would be happening to 10372 05:50:24,157 --> 05:50:25,570 those to -- two parcels. They 10373 05:50:25,570 --> 05:50:25,758 have been considered a park 10374 05:50:25,758 --> 05:50:28,758 over the years. This will 10375 05:50:30,950 --> 05:50:30,797 return it back and I am not 10376 05:50:30,797 --> 05:50:31,697 accepting them into the rtc. 10377 05:50:31,697 --> 05:50:32,532 It will go to miami permitting 10378 05:50:32,532 --> 05:50:33,299 process. I think the real 10379 05:50:33,299 --> 05:50:34,167 issue was the trees. What 10380 05:50:34,167 --> 05:50:35,902 happened to all of the trees on 10381 05:50:35,902 --> 05:50:38,902 the property? The city of 10382 05:50:40,600 --> 05:50:43,606 miami has a huge issue with 10383 05:50:45,245 --> 05:50:45,912 tree permits. Some are 10384 05:50:45,912 --> 05:50:46,846 residents expressed a lot of 10385 05:50:46,846 --> 05:50:49,846 concerns about him moving into 10386 05:50:51,151 --> 05:50:52,520 the rtc where there wouldn't be 10387 05:50:52,520 --> 05:50:53,530 the same protections for the 10388 05:50:53,530 --> 05:50:56,653 trees. I have agreed to remove 10389 05:50:56,756 --> 05:50:57,724 them from the rtc. 10390 05:50:57,724 --> 05:51:00,724 >> it has been moved the 10391 05:51:03,664 --> 05:51:04,665 second and, all in favor of 10392 05:51:04,665 --> 05:51:04,998 that item is a minute signify 10393 05:51:04,998 --> 05:51:06,998 the same aye. 10394 05:51:07,000 --> 05:51:08,702 >> aye. 10395 05:51:08,702 --> 05:51:11,102 >> please call the role. 10396 05:51:13,974 --> 05:51:15,974 >> commissioner. 10397 05:51:17,778 --> 05:51:19,790 >> senator garcia? X 10398 05:51:19,790 --> 05:51:21,790 commissioner gilbert. 10399 05:51:22,150 --> 05:51:24,150 >> commissioner gonzalez? 10400 05:51:25,619 --> 05:51:27,619 >> commissioner lopez, yes. 10401 05:51:27,721 --> 05:51:29,721 >> commissioner regalado? 10402 05:51:32,928 --> 05:51:33,940 >> commissioner steinberg, 10403 05:51:33,940 --> 05:51:35,940 yes. 10404 05:51:36,798 --> 05:51:38,798 >> vice CHAIRMAN. 10405 05:51:41,169 --> 05:51:43,169 >> chair rodriguez, yes. 10406 05:51:47,975 --> 05:51:48,910 >> a motion on 7e. Seconded 10407 05:51:48,910 --> 05:51:49,811 by commissioner lopez from 10408 05:51:49,811 --> 05:51:50,111 districts avenue are 10409 05:51:50,111 --> 05:51:50,946 recognized. 10410 05:51:50,946 --> 05:51:51,880 >> I have a question for her 10411 05:51:51,880 --> 05:51:54,415 on this. I remember we did 10412 05:51:54,415 --> 05:51:55,917 some of this already and the 10413 05:51:55,917 --> 05:51:59,517 city of miami actually is now 10414 05:52:00,489 --> 05:52:01,456 copying what we did. So I 10415 05:52:01,456 --> 05:52:03,325 think this is codifying some of 10416 05:52:03,325 --> 05:52:06,325 the things that already exist. 10417 05:52:10,132 --> 05:52:11,000 What is new here? So we can 10418 05:52:11,000 --> 05:52:11,700 put it on the record? 10419 05:52:11,700 --> 05:52:15,300 >> it is codifying a lot of 10420 05:52:20,877 --> 05:52:21,644 things that we do already so it 10421 05:52:21,644 --> 05:52:22,478 can't be changed. 10422 05:52:22,478 --> 05:52:22,945 >> when I read it we actually 10423 05:52:22,945 --> 05:52:23,846 do this already. 10424 05:52:23,846 --> 05:52:24,814 >> we do most of it, yes. 10425 05:52:24,814 --> 05:52:25,380 Codifying all of it and maybe 10426 05:52:25,380 --> 05:52:25,981 adding a couple of little 10427 05:52:25,981 --> 05:52:26,882 things. But yes they are 10428 05:52:26,882 --> 05:52:27,850 currently implementing some of 10429 05:52:27,850 --> 05:52:28,551 it. I don't know the actually 10430 05:52:28,551 --> 05:52:32,151 keep it to one day. Sometimes 10431 05:52:39,328 --> 05:52:39,762 it goes two b 10432 05:52:39,762 --> 05:52:40,831 four days. We 10433 05:52:40,831 --> 05:52:41,832 are making restricted 24 hours. 10434 05:52:41,832 --> 05:52:42,199 >> that is fine. I am happy 10435 05:52:42,199 --> 05:52:43,199 to support. 10436 05:52:43,199 --> 05:52:43,900 >> we have a motion in the 10437 05:52:43,900 --> 05:52:44,300 second all in favor signify the 10438 05:52:44,300 --> 05:52:44,834 same aye. 10439 05:52:44,834 --> 05:52:45,701 >> aye. 10440 05:52:45,701 --> 05:52:46,350 >> all oppose -- please call 10441 05:52:46,350 --> 05:52:47,336 the role. 10442 05:52:47,336 --> 05:52:49,336 >> senator garcia. 10443 05:52:50,407 --> 05:52:52,407 >> commissioner gilbert? 10444 05:52:53,744 --> 05:52:55,744 >> commissioner gonzalez? 10445 05:52:58,281 --> 05:52:59,249 >> commissioner lopez, yes. 10446 05:52:59,249 --> 05:53:00,250 >> commissioner, yes. 10447 05:53:00,250 --> 05:53:02,250 >> commissioner regalado, yes. 10448 05:53:02,853 --> 05:53:03,153 >> commissioner steinberg, 10449 05:53:03,153 --> 05:53:05,153 yes. 10450 05:53:05,188 --> 05:53:07,188 >> commissioner? 10451 05:53:09,125 --> 05:53:10,728 >> commissioner bermudez, yes. 10452 05:53:10,728 --> 05:53:12,728 >> commissioner? 10453 05:53:13,998 --> 05:53:15,998 >> vice chair mcghee. 10454 05:53:16,266 --> 05:53:18,266 >> chair rodriguez, yes. 10455 05:53:27,445 --> 05:53:28,145 >> mme. Attorney bypassing the 10456 05:53:28,145 --> 05:53:30,580 discussion items can we move 10457 05:53:30,580 --> 05:53:31,415 into the pool list? Then we 10458 05:53:31,415 --> 05:53:34,415 will go back to discussion 10459 05:53:37,254 --> 05:53:38,154 items afterwards. 10460 05:53:38,154 --> 05:53:38,655 >> would you like to go in 10461 05:53:38,655 --> 05:53:39,355 order? 10462 05:53:39,355 --> 05:53:39,556 >> are there any releases at 10463 05:53:39,556 --> 05:53:41,556 all? 10464 05:53:44,494 --> 05:53:45,270 >> we have one release. There 10465 05:53:45,270 --> 05:53:45,995 MAY be others. 10466 05:53:45,995 --> 05:53:47,290 >> we have 3700 pulled items. 10467 05:53:47,290 --> 05:53:48,631 >> senator garcia is the only 10468 05:53:48,631 --> 05:53:49,265 pulling commissioner for 10469 05:53:49,265 --> 05:53:52,265 commissioner for 8f1 he is 10470 05:53:53,402 --> 05:53:55,402 releasing that item. 10471 05:54:06,470 --> 05:54:09,470 >> eight f1 lightspeed. And I 10472 05:54:16,560 --> 05:54:16,990 will release 11, eight, 25. I 10473 05:54:16,990 --> 05:54:21,190 was going to add some stuff to 10474 05:54:22,462 --> 05:54:26,620 it. Do I have an amendment 10475 05:54:28,670 --> 05:54:31,670 prepared? I will release it 10476 05:54:33,306 --> 05:54:34,206 with a cosponsorship. 11, 10477 05:54:34,206 --> 05:54:36,606 eight, 25. Senator garcia is 10478 05:54:37,843 --> 05:54:41,443 reading eight f1 and then eight 10479 05:54:42,147 --> 05:54:44,147 and eight. 10480 05:54:45,450 --> 05:54:47,850 >> 95. I would like to 10481 05:54:51,122 --> 05:54:51,889 cosponsor it because that is 10482 05:54:51,889 --> 05:54:53,257 something that came about with 10483 05:54:53,257 --> 05:54:56,257 a combination of something in 10484 05:54:56,327 --> 05:54:59,327 my district and her district. 10485 05:55:07,237 --> 05:55:08,170 >> if that -- is that okay for 10486 05:55:08,170 --> 05:55:08,905 him to cosponsor it? 10487 05:55:08,905 --> 05:55:09,906 >> absolutely not. [Laughter] 10488 05:55:09,906 --> 05:55:10,874 >> it has been released and 10489 05:55:10,874 --> 05:55:14,474 cope arms. We will entertain a 10490 05:55:18,213 --> 05:55:19,148 motion on eight f1, 985, 11 825 10491 05:55:19,148 --> 05:55:19,381 and there was another one, 10492 05:55:19,381 --> 05:55:20,783 jerry? 10493 05:55:20,783 --> 05:55:21,483 >> eight and eight. 10494 05:55:21,483 --> 05:55:24,483 >> eight and eight. It has 10495 05:55:24,520 --> 05:55:27,520 been moved by lopez and 10496 05:55:29,558 --> 05:55:30,525 seconded by gonzales. All in 10497 05:55:30,525 --> 05:55:33,294 favor signify the same aye. 10498 05:55:33,294 --> 05:55:36,894 All opposed, nay. So the item 10499 05:55:41,100 --> 05:55:43,401 the four past. 2b5 10500 05:55:44,672 --> 05:55:45,372 commissioner from districts 10501 05:55:45,372 --> 05:55:46,406 five you are recognized. 10502 05:55:46,406 --> 05:55:47,174 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. I 10503 05:55:47,174 --> 05:55:49,142 just wanted to say I am 10504 05:55:49,142 --> 05:55:51,542 grateful for the information 10505 05:55:52,779 --> 05:55:53,646 that was given to us but it was 10506 05:55:53,646 --> 05:55:54,548 not what I was looking for at 10507 05:55:54,548 --> 05:55:56,549 all. Here's what I was looking 10508 05:55:56,549 --> 05:56:00,850 for when it comes to cbo 10509 05:56:00,850 --> 05:56:00,987 funding. I was looking for the 10510 05:56:00,987 --> 05:56:01,821 name of the organization, how 10511 05:56:01,821 --> 05:56:04,221 much money they receive 10512 05:56:08,660 --> 05:56:09,261 federally, state, and locally? 10513 05:56:09,261 --> 05:56:10,629 And how many years they have 10514 05:56:10,629 --> 05:56:13,290 been receiving funding? I 10515 05:56:15,600 --> 05:56:16,668 think that this was a good 10516 05:56:16,668 --> 05:56:17,335 start but it is missing so much 10517 05:56:17,335 --> 05:56:18,136 information that I would like 10518 05:56:18,136 --> 05:56:20,536 to work with the 10519 05:56:20,638 --> 05:56:21,605 administration. I think at 10520 05:56:21,605 --> 05:56:25,205 least how I read the resolution 10521 05:56:25,209 --> 05:56:26,900 that was passed that generated 10522 05:56:26,900 --> 05:56:26,877 this report there was a lot 10523 05:56:26,877 --> 05:56:29,877 more that we requested didn't 10524 05:56:30,614 --> 05:56:34,551 get sent to us. So I would and 10525 05:56:34,551 --> 05:56:38,751 I looked here, this was a good 10526 05:56:39,122 --> 05:56:42,722 overall picture of some of the 10527 05:56:43,560 --> 05:56:46,950 cbo's. I am just curious when 10528 05:56:46,950 --> 05:56:50,295 we will have a much more deeper 10529 05:56:51,400 --> 05:56:52,134 dive into every single cbo that 10530 05:56:52,134 --> 05:56:55,734 refund? That is a question for 10531 05:56:59,541 --> 05:57:00,575 the administration. 10532 05:57:00,575 --> 05:57:01,276 >> through the chair I would 10533 05:57:01,276 --> 05:57:02,770 like to recognize ray baker. 10534 05:57:02,770 --> 05:57:05,677 There are two reports and I 10535 05:57:06,147 --> 05:57:07,148 think he can help clarify. 10536 05:57:07,148 --> 05:57:07,815 >> director baker you are 10537 05:57:07,815 --> 05:57:08,816 recognized for a response. 10538 05:57:08,816 --> 05:57:10,218 >> good afternoon. There are 10539 05:57:10,218 --> 05:57:10,952 two reports. Two b5 is a 10540 05:57:10,952 --> 05:57:13,952 report card that will required 10541 05:57:15,189 --> 05:57:16,156 to submit. 14 b2 would be the 10542 05:57:16,156 --> 05:57:16,890 one that is the response to the 10543 05:57:16,890 --> 05:57:18,892 resolutions that you are 10544 05:57:18,892 --> 05:57:20,892 referring to. 10545 05:57:26,466 --> 05:57:27,199 >> does that item show me 10546 05:57:27,199 --> 05:57:28,101 complete details and the number 10547 05:57:28,101 --> 05:57:29,680 of years we have been funding 10548 05:57:29,680 --> 05:57:29,936 them? Where they get their 10549 05:57:29,936 --> 05:57:33,306 funding? That is what I am 10550 05:57:33,306 --> 05:57:34,307 looking for. 10551 05:57:34,307 --> 05:57:35,740 >> I don't believe that was 10552 05:57:35,740 --> 05:57:35,941 called for the request but we 10553 05:57:35,941 --> 05:57:36,308 can certainly provide that to 10554 05:57:36,308 --> 05:57:38,308 you. 10555 05:57:39,278 --> 05:57:40,145 >> I guess to help us during 10556 05:57:40,145 --> 05:57:43,582 the budget even though I know 10557 05:57:43,582 --> 05:57:47,182 the mayor has kept the cbo's 10558 05:57:47,252 --> 05:57:50,252 held harmless, I still think 10559 05:57:52,957 --> 05:57:53,858 that we have to understand, 10560 05:57:53,858 --> 05:57:54,792 what are our priorities as a 10561 05:57:54,792 --> 05:57:55,793 commission? What do we want to 10562 05:57:55,793 --> 05:57:56,393 fund? In order to make those 10563 05:57:56,393 --> 05:57:58,793 decisions, we need to 10564 05:58:05,235 --> 05:58:06,103 understand every single cbo 10565 05:58:06,103 --> 05:58:07,400 that is funded and where they 10566 05:58:07,400 --> 05:58:08,400 are getting their money? How 10567 05:58:08,400 --> 05:58:08,672 much do they get the from the 10568 05:58:08,672 --> 05:58:09,506 federal government? How much 10569 05:58:09,506 --> 05:58:10,439 do they get from the state 10570 05:58:10,439 --> 05:58:11,240 government? How many years we 10571 05:58:11,240 --> 05:58:12,241 have we been funding them? How 10572 05:58:12,241 --> 05:58:14,777 many people do they serve? I 10573 05:58:14,777 --> 05:58:18,977 know this is a big item of 10574 05:58:19,150 --> 05:58:21,415 discussion last budget cycle 10575 05:58:23,180 --> 05:58:26,188 but I can't imagine me being 10576 05:58:26,188 --> 05:58:27,623 able to make any decisions 10577 05:58:27,623 --> 05:58:30,258 based on cbo funding without 10578 05:58:30,258 --> 05:58:33,858 all of that information. I am 10579 05:58:34,964 --> 05:58:35,998 hopeful within the next month, 10580 05:58:35,998 --> 05:58:38,901 I will be able to review that. 10581 05:58:38,901 --> 05:58:41,901 Because I think certainly the 10582 05:58:43,172 --> 05:58:43,973 committee that commissioner and 10583 05:58:43,973 --> 05:58:46,410 I chair would be very 10584 05:58:46,410 --> 05:58:49,410 interested in drilling down to 10585 05:58:53,830 --> 05:58:54,170 the absolute detail. Because 10586 05:58:54,170 --> 05:58:54,951 they are matching funds as well 10587 05:58:54,951 --> 05:58:57,119 and I would like to know how 10588 05:58:57,119 --> 05:58:58,540 much? This is the process at 10589 05:58:58,540 --> 05:58:58,788 the state level. We ask how 10590 05:58:58,788 --> 05:59:02,125 much matching funds do you have 10591 05:59:02,125 --> 05:59:03,590 from anyone? Who is that? Is 10592 05:59:03,590 --> 05:59:04,694 it a private foundation? Is it 10593 05:59:04,694 --> 05:59:05,662 a private organization? Is it 10594 05:59:05,662 --> 05:59:08,397 federal grants? Is it state 10595 05:59:08,397 --> 05:59:11,997 grants? We get a lot of 10596 05:59:12,102 --> 05:59:13,436 request at the state level to 10597 05:59:13,436 --> 05:59:16,436 fund projects. We call through 10598 05:59:17,807 --> 05:59:18,875 them specifically every single 10599 05:59:18,875 --> 05:59:21,875 request. And we make decisions 10600 05:59:23,580 --> 05:59:24,314 based on the kind of 10601 05:59:24,314 --> 05:59:25,249 information and that data. I 10602 05:59:25,249 --> 05:59:26,820 was hoping that we would be 10603 05:59:26,820 --> 05:59:26,683 able to get that for every 10604 05:59:26,683 --> 05:59:27,584 single cbo that has been 10605 05:59:27,584 --> 05:59:29,190 included in the budget this 10606 05:59:29,190 --> 05:59:31,190 year. 10607 05:59:32,890 --> 05:59:35,890 >> through the chair? I want 10608 05:59:38,195 --> 05:59:38,995 to indicate in addition to ray 10609 05:59:38,995 --> 05:59:39,696 we have dan wall. Dan wall has 10610 05:59:39,696 --> 05:59:42,696 been leading on the nonprofits 10611 05:59:43,367 --> 05:59:45,602 for 30 years or something like 10612 05:59:45,602 --> 05:59:49,202 that. I actually had a large 10613 05:59:50,740 --> 05:59:51,760 role to play and having him 10614 05:59:51,760 --> 05:59:51,676 hired by a predecessor. 10615 05:59:51,676 --> 05:59:52,610 Because we needed to have 10616 05:59:52,610 --> 05:59:55,610 somebody to help us maximize 10617 05:59:56,781 --> 05:59:57,448 federal and state dollars and 10618 05:59:57,448 --> 05:59:58,416 dan was hired for that purpose. 10619 05:59:58,416 --> 05:59:59,784 If he doesn't know the answer, 10620 05:59:59,784 --> 06:00:03,984 he will get it. If you would 10621 06:00:06,891 --> 06:00:07,792 allow him to say -- 10622 06:00:07,792 --> 06:00:08,459 >> the information you 10623 06:00:08,459 --> 06:00:09,293 reference on the information 10624 06:00:09,293 --> 06:00:09,994 that was required in the 10625 06:00:09,994 --> 06:00:13,594 legislation is in that at all 10626 06:00:17,769 --> 06:00:18,636 report 14 b2. 10627 06:00:18,636 --> 06:00:19,337 >> I appreciate that. 10628 06:00:19,337 --> 06:00:20,237 Remember when we fund things 10629 06:00:20,237 --> 06:00:20,906 like I have had cbo say to me, 10630 06:00:20,906 --> 06:00:24,409 if you do not fund me that I 10631 06:00:24,409 --> 06:00:25,177 will lose the matching funds 10632 06:00:25,177 --> 06:00:26,780 from the federal grant that we 10633 06:00:26,780 --> 06:00:26,912 have. Those are important 10634 06:00:26,912 --> 06:00:28,547 decisions to make because 10635 06:00:28,547 --> 06:00:31,217 obviously we are able to 10636 06:00:31,217 --> 06:00:32,218 maximize funding from other 10637 06:00:32,218 --> 06:00:36,418 sources to be able to fund. I 10638 06:00:38,723 --> 06:00:39,691 still look at a lot of this 10639 06:00:39,691 --> 06:00:40,292 asked, what are the priorities 10640 06:00:40,292 --> 06:00:43,892 that we want to be funding? 10641 06:00:45,564 --> 06:00:46,265 What areas? Is it vulnerable 10642 06:00:46,265 --> 06:00:47,233 populations? Is it elderly and 10643 06:00:47,233 --> 06:00:50,833 young children? For me to make 10644 06:00:54,741 --> 06:00:55,508 the decisions, it is very 10645 06:00:55,508 --> 06:00:56,409 difficult based on what I have. 10646 06:00:56,409 --> 06:00:57,209 I will get that item and if I 10647 06:00:57,209 --> 06:00:58,100 have for the request, I will 10648 06:00:58,100 --> 06:00:58,711 make sure to pass those on to 10649 06:00:58,711 --> 06:00:59,745 you. Thank you so much. 10650 06:00:59,745 --> 06:01:03,345 >> we are going to meet with 10651 06:01:06,119 --> 06:01:07,860 all of you shortly. Within a 10652 06:01:07,860 --> 06:01:08,320 couple of weeks or three weeks 10653 06:01:08,320 --> 06:01:08,921 to go through in more detail of 10654 06:01:08,921 --> 06:01:11,491 the questions that have been 10655 06:01:11,491 --> 06:01:12,225 raised at the various 10656 06:01:12,225 --> 06:01:13,600 committees this past week and 10657 06:01:13,600 --> 06:01:15,228 make sure you have all the 10658 06:01:15,228 --> 06:01:15,795 information you need to make 10659 06:01:15,795 --> 06:01:17,795 informed choices. 10660 06:01:20,834 --> 06:01:21,201 >> I am going to take up item 10661 06:01:21,201 --> 06:01:23,201 14 b2. 10662 06:01:25,405 --> 06:01:26,306 >> and give us a chair and to 10663 06:01:26,306 --> 06:01:28,706 the commissions who requested 10664 06:01:32,646 --> 06:01:33,614 this report. To allow to see 10665 06:01:33,614 --> 06:01:34,415 what the cbo dollars are going 10666 06:01:34,415 --> 06:01:38,150 and how they are being spent. 10667 06:01:38,351 --> 06:01:42,551 On on on 2b5 there are number 10668 06:01:45,392 --> 06:01:46,160 cbo*color coded with both 10669 06:01:46,160 --> 06:01:46,894 yellow and red indicating five 10670 06:01:46,894 --> 06:01:49,294 or more instances of 10671 06:01:49,396 --> 06:01:50,970 noncompliance and receiving a 10672 06:01:50,970 --> 06:01:50,932 suspension that has since been 10673 06:01:50,932 --> 06:01:52,233 resolved are any number of 10674 06:01:52,233 --> 06:01:54,633 instances of noncompliance or 10675 06:01:56,837 --> 06:01:58,939 payment suspension. Are those 10676 06:01:58,939 --> 06:02:00,740 yellow and red coated cbo's 10677 06:02:00,740 --> 06:02:02,474 included in the upcoming 10678 06:02:03,711 --> 06:02:05,711 proposed budget? 10679 06:02:09,383 --> 06:02:10,719 >> you are recognized. 10680 06:02:10,719 --> 06:02:11,720 >> office of management and 10681 06:02:11,720 --> 06:02:14,120 budget. Yes, commissioner the 10682 06:02:15,290 --> 06:02:18,890 yellow coded had a number of 10683 06:02:21,263 --> 06:02:21,563 findings as per I/o three b 10684 06:02:21,563 --> 06:02:22,331 15 10685 06:02:22,331 --> 06:02:23,565 required a yellow rating. They 10686 06:02:23,565 --> 06:02:24,299 have subsequently submitted a 10687 06:02:24,299 --> 06:02:25,670 corrective action plan that 10688 06:02:25,670 --> 06:02:28,670 have all been clear. There 10689 06:02:29,370 --> 06:02:30,204 were three with a red 10690 06:02:30,204 --> 06:02:32,607 designation. One of them was 10691 06:02:32,607 --> 06:02:35,700 able to successfully clear 10692 06:02:37,645 --> 06:02:38,513 their corrective action plan. 10693 06:02:38,513 --> 06:02:39,114 One, the contract was 10694 06:02:39,114 --> 06:02:40,583 terminated for lack of 10695 06:02:40,583 --> 06:02:41,250 performance. And the third one 10696 06:02:41,250 --> 06:02:43,650 , they declined the funding 10697 06:02:54,297 --> 06:02:54,897 this year. The current year 10698 06:02:54,897 --> 06:02:55,831 monitoring because this is 10699 06:02:55,831 --> 06:02:56,765 looking back a year, the 10700 06:02:56,765 --> 06:02:57,500 current year monitoring is 10701 06:02:57,500 --> 06:02:58,400 happening right now. I am 10702 06:02:58,400 --> 06:02:59,301 pleased to report knock on wood 10703 06:02:59,301 --> 06:02:59,768 that we have no suspensions to 10704 06:02:59,768 --> 06:03:00,503 date so far. 10705 06:03:00,503 --> 06:03:03,503 >> thank you. I'm glad you're 10706 06:03:06,676 --> 06:03:07,643 pleased to report that. I 10707 06:03:07,643 --> 06:03:08,344 however am looking at this 10708 06:03:08,344 --> 06:03:09,211 report carefully for those that 10709 06:03:09,211 --> 06:03:10,790 are noncompliant in any way 10710 06:03:10,790 --> 06:03:11,114 especially when funding is as 10711 06:03:11,114 --> 06:03:14,551 tight as it is. I would find 10712 06:03:14,551 --> 06:03:15,452 it where there are instances 10713 06:03:15,452 --> 06:03:18,221 higher than five. I will be 10714 06:03:18,221 --> 06:03:18,921 taking a closer look at those 10715 06:03:18,921 --> 06:03:20,156 as we move into our budget. 10716 06:03:20,156 --> 06:03:20,824 Thank you for the acclimation 10717 06:03:20,824 --> 06:03:21,658 regarding but we have been 10718 06:03:21,658 --> 06:03:23,226 including in our proposed 10719 06:03:23,226 --> 06:03:25,626 annual budget moving forward. 10720 06:03:26,696 --> 06:03:27,731 Nothing for -- further MR. 10721 06:03:27,731 --> 06:03:28,965 Chair. 10722 06:03:28,965 --> 06:03:30,965 >> commissioner? 10723 06:03:33,370 --> 06:03:36,970 >> thank you MR. Chair. I am 10724 06:03:41,445 --> 06:03:41,979 going to report -- refer to 10725 06:03:41,979 --> 06:03:42,446 2b5. What constitutes a 10726 06:03:42,446 --> 06:03:44,446 violation for these 10727 06:03:46,250 --> 06:03:48,650 organizations? Why is the 10728 06:03:48,852 --> 06:03:50,860 threshold five? That they are 10729 06:03:50,860 --> 06:03:53,860 allowed to do five violations 10730 06:03:55,293 --> 06:03:58,293 before they get action taken 10731 06:04:03,635 --> 06:04:04,669 against corrective action? 10732 06:04:04,669 --> 06:04:05,636 >> to your first question, 10733 06:04:05,636 --> 06:04:06,403 what constitutes a violation? 10734 06:04:06,403 --> 06:04:07,604 They are not in compliance with 10735 06:04:07,604 --> 06:04:08,372 one of the many terms and 10736 06:04:08,372 --> 06:04:10,842 conditions in the contract. It 10737 06:04:10,842 --> 06:04:13,842 could be from, they lack 10738 06:04:14,879 --> 06:04:15,880 programmatic records. They 10739 06:04:15,880 --> 06:04:17,282 lack financial records. Or it 10740 06:04:17,282 --> 06:04:20,282 could be something small like 10741 06:04:23,656 --> 06:04:24,456 they failed to submit their 10742 06:04:24,456 --> 06:04:26,358 continuity of operations plan 10743 06:04:26,358 --> 06:04:28,193 on an annual basis. It is any 10744 06:04:28,193 --> 06:04:30,593 instance of noncompliance with 10745 06:04:31,263 --> 06:04:33,499 the contract. And the numbers 10746 06:04:33,499 --> 06:04:36,499 that were determined by the 10747 06:04:40,706 --> 06:04:41,273 board are outlined in a bowl 10748 06:04:41,273 --> 06:04:41,407 three b 10749 06:04:41,407 --> 06:04:42,740 15. 10750 06:04:42,740 --> 06:04:42,908 >> okay, is it per fiscal 10751 06:04:42,908 --> 06:04:43,242 year? 10752 06:04:43,242 --> 06:04:45,242 >> yes. 10753 06:04:49,215 --> 06:04:50,115 >> violations could be five 10754 06:04:50,115 --> 06:04:50,917 violations in a year? Is it 10755 06:04:50,917 --> 06:04:51,784 every time they apply? How do 10756 06:04:51,784 --> 06:04:54,784 you keep track of that? 10757 06:05:00,493 --> 06:05:01,494 >> it is an annual monitoring. 10758 06:05:01,494 --> 06:05:02,395 They can submit a corrective 10759 06:05:02,395 --> 06:05:03,128 action plan. They clear that 10760 06:05:03,128 --> 06:05:03,997 or not. And next year we go 10761 06:05:03,997 --> 06:05:04,864 out a fresh set of eyes and 10762 06:05:04,864 --> 06:05:05,398 look again. There could be 10763 06:05:05,398 --> 06:05:07,798 anywhere from zero b 10764 06:05:09,935 --> 06:05:11,935 one. Two 10765 06:05:12,138 --> 06:05:14,538 commissioner cohen higgins some 10766 06:05:20,146 --> 06:05:20,647 of these organizations are 10767 06:05:20,647 --> 06:05:22,820 smaller cbo's that lack 10768 06:05:22,820 --> 06:05:22,749 capacity. So there's a lot of 10769 06:05:22,749 --> 06:05:23,283 work that goes on with a 10770 06:05:23,283 --> 06:05:24,985 separate team working in 10771 06:05:24,985 --> 06:05:25,651 conjunction with their 10772 06:05:25,651 --> 06:05:28,510 contracts officer to provide 10773 06:05:28,721 --> 06:05:29,789 capacity building technical 10774 06:05:29,789 --> 06:05:32,789 assistance on an ongoing basis. 10775 06:05:34,228 --> 06:05:36,628 >> the corrective action is 10776 06:05:37,197 --> 06:05:37,797 complying with what they were 10777 06:05:37,797 --> 06:05:40,197 missing? What is the 10778 06:05:43,170 --> 06:05:44,104 corrective actions? 10779 06:05:44,104 --> 06:05:44,805 >> it can be all of those 10780 06:05:44,805 --> 06:05:48,405 things. You didn't do this and 10781 06:05:53,914 --> 06:05:54,848 explain why? Give us your plan 10782 06:05:54,848 --> 06:05:55,683 for correction. By when are 10783 06:05:55,683 --> 06:05:56,317 you going to do it? Or you 10784 06:05:56,317 --> 06:05:57,351 failed to provide me this 10785 06:05:57,351 --> 06:05:58,251 document, provide the document 10786 06:05:58,251 --> 06:05:58,685 now. It is the combination of 10787 06:05:58,685 --> 06:05:59,820 those things. 10788 06:05:59,820 --> 06:06:02,189 >> is there a certain point 10789 06:06:02,189 --> 06:06:03,124 where you say this organization 10790 06:06:03,124 --> 06:06:04,491 has noncompliant and we are no 10791 06:06:04,491 --> 06:06:06,891 longer going to recommend 10792 06:06:09,697 --> 06:06:10,765 funding for them? Or are they 10793 06:06:10,765 --> 06:06:11,466 continue having violations and 10794 06:06:11,466 --> 06:06:14,466 correcting them over and over 10795 06:06:14,836 --> 06:06:15,303 and continue receiving funding 10796 06:06:15,303 --> 06:06:17,303 from the county? 10797 06:06:19,173 --> 06:06:19,907 >> the answer to your 10798 06:06:19,907 --> 06:06:22,907 question, no they are not 10799 06:06:25,480 --> 06:06:26,348 allowed to continue. 10800 06:06:26,348 --> 06:06:26,681 >> is a three strikes and 10801 06:06:26,681 --> 06:06:28,681 you're out? 10802 06:06:39,861 --> 06:06:40,529 > we submit a monitoring 10803 06:06:40,529 --> 06:06:41,530 report to them. We give them 10804 06:06:41,530 --> 06:06:42,364 an opportunity to submit a 10805 06:06:42,364 --> 06:06:43,332 corrective action plan. We 10806 06:06:43,332 --> 06:06:43,999 reviewed that, we MAY negotiate 10807 06:06:43,999 --> 06:06:45,340 back and forth with that. We 10808 06:06:45,340 --> 06:06:45,934 MAY say it is not sufficient 10809 06:06:45,934 --> 06:06:46,868 and you need to provide more 10810 06:06:46,868 --> 06:06:49,868 documentation. But no as I 10811 06:06:50,673 --> 06:06:51,340 indicated previously one of the 10812 06:06:51,340 --> 06:06:52,174 three red was not able to 10813 06:06:52,174 --> 06:06:53,175 submit a corrective action 10814 06:06:53,175 --> 06:06:53,742 plan. And so we terminated the 10815 06:06:53,742 --> 06:06:54,710 agreement for lack of 10816 06:06:54,710 --> 06:06:55,410 performance. That was based on 10817 06:06:55,410 --> 06:06:59,100 the one year. Looking back at 10818 06:06:59,715 --> 06:07:00,750 the agency, they had a track 10819 06:07:00,750 --> 06:07:01,384 record of difficulty leading up 10820 06:07:01,384 --> 06:07:02,185 to that. It was technically 10821 06:07:02,185 --> 06:07:05,185 within that one year. And 10822 06:07:05,955 --> 06:07:07,323 another way of doing it is, we 10823 06:07:07,323 --> 06:07:09,959 will not execute a current year 10824 06:07:09,959 --> 06:07:10,660 contract until they have 10825 06:07:10,660 --> 06:07:12,660 submitted that corrective 10826 06:07:13,129 --> 06:07:14,130 action plan for the prior year 10827 06:07:14,130 --> 06:07:14,397 and it has been approved by the 10828 06:07:14,397 --> 06:07:16,397 county. 10829 06:07:19,702 --> 06:07:20,704 >> okay so that continuing the 10830 06:07:20,704 --> 06:07:21,438 example of that organization, I 10831 06:07:21,438 --> 06:07:22,739 don't know which one it is. 10832 06:07:22,739 --> 06:07:23,406 Would they be allowed to 10833 06:07:23,406 --> 06:07:26,406 reapply in the next fiscal 10834 06:07:28,278 --> 06:07:29,780 year? Are they done receiving, 10835 06:07:29,780 --> 06:07:29,512 do they have to start over? 10836 06:07:29,512 --> 06:07:31,912 How does it work? 10837 06:07:35,685 --> 06:07:36,319 >> if there was a new 10838 06:07:36,319 --> 06:07:37,187 solicitation, they will be 10839 06:07:37,187 --> 06:07:38,188 eligible to apply. They would 10840 06:07:38,188 --> 06:07:41,358 have to speak to their track 10841 06:07:41,358 --> 06:07:42,426 record in their proposal. But 10842 06:07:42,426 --> 06:07:43,293 if it is continuation funding, 10843 06:07:43,293 --> 06:07:46,893 we will not continue. Even if 10844 06:07:48,310 --> 06:07:49,650 the board has them on the list 10845 06:07:49,650 --> 06:07:49,732 because at the time the list is 10846 06:07:49,732 --> 06:07:50,668 generated they MAY be working 10847 06:07:50,668 --> 06:07:51,569 through corrective action plan. 10848 06:07:51,569 --> 06:07:52,570 If they do not successfully 10849 06:07:52,570 --> 06:07:53,604 clear that corrective action 10850 06:07:53,604 --> 06:07:55,806 plan with the county, we would 10851 06:07:55,806 --> 06:07:56,106 not execute the subsequent year 10852 06:07:56,106 --> 06:07:58,106 agreement. 10853 06:07:58,575 --> 06:08:02,175 >> okay. I think it would be 10854 06:08:03,130 --> 06:08:03,648 helpful as commissioner lopez 10855 06:08:03,648 --> 06:08:04,549 said to have some of that 10856 06:08:04,549 --> 06:08:06,817 information as we go into the 10857 06:08:06,817 --> 06:08:09,817 budget season. To have that 10858 06:08:10,200 --> 06:08:10,889 included in the report or the 10859 06:08:10,889 --> 06:08:13,289 information we are considering 10860 06:08:16,561 --> 06:08:17,694 looking at the cbo's. 10861 06:08:17,694 --> 06:08:17,862 >> commissioner from district 10862 06:08:17,862 --> 06:08:19,630 7? 10863 06:08:19,630 --> 06:08:22,630 >> thank you. And look I 10864 06:08:23,702 --> 06:08:24,269 appreciate what we were 10865 06:08:24,269 --> 06:08:25,203 provided. I have two 10866 06:08:25,203 --> 06:08:25,770 recommendations very similar to 10867 06:08:25,770 --> 06:08:26,871 what other folks are 10868 06:08:26,871 --> 06:08:29,871 mentioning. First, I think we 10869 06:08:33,845 --> 06:08:34,846 should have a distinction for 10870 06:08:34,846 --> 06:08:35,880 noncompliance. So if it is 10871 06:08:35,880 --> 06:08:38,280 noncompliance for not providing 10872 06:08:39,317 --> 06:08:40,180 financials, that is very 10873 06:08:40,180 --> 06:08:40,852 different from noncompliance 10874 06:08:40,852 --> 06:08:42,955 for not sending a form or 10875 06:08:42,955 --> 06:08:43,956 sending a form late. So I 10876 06:08:43,956 --> 06:08:46,956 would appreciate if we broke 10877 06:08:53,650 --> 06:08:53,999 the noncompliance into 10878 06:08:53,999 --> 06:08:54,733 actionable. That would give us 10879 06:08:54,733 --> 06:08:55,567 a little bit more information. 10880 06:08:55,567 --> 06:08:56,534 I am more concerned with a 10881 06:08:56,534 --> 06:08:57,502 nonprofit that is not providing 10882 06:08:57,502 --> 06:08:58,270 financial information or 10883 06:08:58,270 --> 06:09:00,270 programming information or 10884 06:09:00,873 --> 06:09:02,174 attendance information. Then 10885 06:09:02,174 --> 06:09:04,877 someone who sent a document in 10886 06:09:04,877 --> 06:09:08,477 late. To your point they are 10887 06:09:09,314 --> 06:09:10,490 new to this and some have been 10888 06:09:10,490 --> 06:09:13,649 doing this for a long time. 10889 06:09:13,820 --> 06:09:14,453 Some have staff, some don't. 10890 06:09:14,453 --> 06:09:15,287 So I think we need to break 10891 06:09:15,287 --> 06:09:16,550 down the noncompliance. I 10892 06:09:16,550 --> 06:09:17,923 would like the yellow and the 10893 06:09:17,923 --> 06:09:18,924 red. I think that works. 10894 06:09:18,924 --> 06:09:21,324 Within the noncompliance, I 10895 06:09:21,494 --> 06:09:22,662 would like a type a and a type 10896 06:09:22,662 --> 06:09:25,620 b of noncompliance. Number 10897 06:09:29,402 --> 06:09:30,303 two, I think I understand it is 10898 06:09:30,303 --> 06:09:31,337 annual. But one of the things 10899 06:09:31,337 --> 06:09:32,105 we try to get people to 10900 06:09:32,105 --> 06:09:35,705 understand here is, it is okay 10901 06:09:37,510 --> 06:09:38,511 to make a mistake. Just make 10902 06:09:38,511 --> 06:09:39,145 the same mistakes over and over 10903 06:09:39,145 --> 06:09:40,112 again. If someone is making 10904 06:09:40,112 --> 06:09:43,712 the same mistakes over and over 10905 06:09:44,510 --> 06:09:44,952 I would like to know. And so 10906 06:09:44,952 --> 06:09:45,952 while you are providing this 10907 06:09:45,952 --> 06:09:46,652 with annual information, I 10908 06:09:46,652 --> 06:09:48,355 think it would be beneficial 10909 06:09:48,355 --> 06:09:51,892 for the board to see in an 10910 06:09:51,892 --> 06:09:52,760 exhibit 5 years back. And flag 10911 06:09:52,760 --> 06:09:55,760 anyone that has committed the 10912 06:09:57,831 --> 06:09:58,832 same mistake. Again, okay with 10913 06:09:58,832 --> 06:09:59,866 new mistakes but it is the same 10914 06:09:59,866 --> 06:10:01,669 mistakes. If you have not 10915 06:10:01,669 --> 06:10:04,669 submitted your financials in a 10916 06:10:05,606 --> 06:10:06,540 timely fashion for two or three 10917 06:10:06,540 --> 06:10:08,475 years, I think that is 10918 06:10:08,475 --> 06:10:09,810 important. Even that got you a 10919 06:10:09,810 --> 06:10:12,280 yellow because it shows a much 10920 06:10:12,280 --> 06:10:14,949 bigger issue. That I think the 10921 06:10:14,949 --> 06:10:15,917 board needs to consider when 10922 06:10:15,917 --> 06:10:17,985 providing funding. Those would 10923 06:10:17,985 --> 06:10:20,385 be my two recommendations. 10924 06:10:21,220 --> 06:10:22,230 Thank you. 10925 06:10:22,230 --> 06:10:24,230 >> vice-CHAIRMAN? 10926 06:10:26,600 --> 06:10:26,861 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. 10927 06:10:26,861 --> 06:10:27,862 Thank you MR. Wall for 10928 06:10:27,862 --> 06:10:29,496 everything you have done and 10929 06:10:29,496 --> 06:10:30,197 continue doing the great work 10930 06:10:30,197 --> 06:10:33,797 you do. Just a quick question 10931 06:10:34,602 --> 06:10:37,338 as it relates to the report? 10932 06:10:37,338 --> 06:10:41,109 What does it mean in terms of 10933 06:10:41,109 --> 06:10:42,143 the color coding that we are 10934 06:10:42,143 --> 06:10:45,143 seeing here? Are we saying 10935 06:10:46,280 --> 06:10:49,416 that many of the legacy cbo's 10936 06:10:49,416 --> 06:10:51,840 that you engaged with are in 10937 06:10:51,840 --> 06:10:52,819 compliance, noncompliance or is 10938 06:10:52,819 --> 06:10:56,419 there a mixture? X is a 10939 06:10:59,626 --> 06:11:00,560 mixture. -- 10940 06:11:00,560 --> 06:11:01,127 >> it is a mixture. Greenwood 10941 06:11:01,127 --> 06:11:02,280 state they are in good 10942 06:11:02,280 --> 06:11:05,280 standing. Yellow there are a 10943 06:11:11,336 --> 06:11:12,337 number of findings as per 803 b 10944 06:11:12,337 --> 06:11:13,205 15 requiring is possible 10945 06:11:13,205 --> 06:11:14,339 suspension or hold placed on 10946 06:11:14,339 --> 06:11:15,573 their payments until they 10947 06:11:15,573 --> 06:11:17,973 resolve their corrective action 10948 06:11:19,711 --> 06:11:23,311 plan and read this is serious 10949 06:11:25,183 --> 06:11:28,520 violent -- violations where was 10950 06:11:28,520 --> 06:11:31,520 it resolved. This report card 10951 06:11:31,388 --> 06:11:33,788 you have 117 organizations of 10952 06:11:39,196 --> 06:11:40,197 which 114 received -- I'm 10953 06:11:40,197 --> 06:11:42,597 sorry. 104 received a green 10954 06:11:45,502 --> 06:11:46,402 rating. 100 and 4/17. 19 were 10955 06:11:46,402 --> 06:11:49,305 yellow and three were red. Of 10956 06:11:49,305 --> 06:11:52,905 the three cents the time this 10957 06:11:54,376 --> 06:11:55,177 report was issued one has 10958 06:11:55,177 --> 06:11:55,978 resolved it and converted from 10959 06:11:55,978 --> 06:11:58,580 red to yellow. One has the 10960 06:11:58,580 --> 06:12:00,980 contract has been terminated 10961 06:12:02,250 --> 06:12:04,850 and one declined funding. 10962 06:12:04,850 --> 06:12:07,685 >> thank you so much. I asked 10963 06:12:20,434 --> 06:12:22,834 that question because in 10964 06:12:22,936 --> 06:12:25,305 reviewing this memo, it is 10965 06:12:25,305 --> 06:12:28,905 almost as if this is a 10966 06:12:30,209 --> 06:12:31,100 vindication from the cbo's who 10967 06:12:31,100 --> 06:12:34,100 was pretty much tarnished with 10968 06:12:37,283 --> 06:12:38,117 the perception that they were 10969 06:12:38,117 --> 06:12:39,118 not being in compliance with 10970 06:12:39,118 --> 06:12:41,186 the counties requirements. But 10971 06:12:41,186 --> 06:12:41,954 it is also a great indicator 10972 06:12:41,954 --> 06:12:43,455 that not only should we 10973 06:12:43,455 --> 06:12:45,855 continue the funding and 10974 06:12:45,890 --> 06:12:46,658 continue watching over these 10975 06:12:46,658 --> 06:12:50,258 cbo's to ensure that they do 10976 06:12:50,896 --> 06:12:51,829 the right thing. But it is the 10977 06:12:51,829 --> 06:12:55,429 very reason I stated before and 10978 06:12:55,500 --> 06:12:56,134 I will say it again that cbo's 10979 06:12:56,134 --> 06:12:58,534 in miami-dade county should 10980 06:13:01,405 --> 06:13:03,807 have their own trust fund that 10981 06:13:03,807 --> 06:13:04,475 would allow for them to receive 10982 06:13:04,475 --> 06:13:08,110 funding that they do not have 10983 06:13:08,110 --> 06:13:08,912 to compete with other buckets 10984 06:13:08,912 --> 06:13:11,148 and pots of money within 10985 06:13:11,148 --> 06:13:13,548 miami-dade county. When this 10986 06:13:17,120 --> 06:13:18,210 proposal was first made, I 10987 06:13:18,210 --> 06:13:20,421 sought to get clarification 10988 06:13:22,825 --> 06:13:26,425 because of the rumor mill that 10989 06:13:28,497 --> 06:13:29,164 consuming the air that cbo's in 10990 06:13:29,164 --> 06:13:31,164 miami-dade county didn't 10991 06:13:36,671 --> 06:13:37,405 deserve the money or they 10992 06:13:37,405 --> 06:13:38,740 should go out and raise their 10993 06:13:38,740 --> 06:13:39,707 own funds. Or they ship pulled 10994 06:13:39,707 --> 06:13:40,308 themselves up by their own 10995 06:13:40,308 --> 06:13:40,808 bootstraps. In my humbling 10996 06:13:40,808 --> 06:13:43,808 opinion is a form of 10997 06:13:44,378 --> 06:13:45,450 vindication that should say to 10998 06:13:45,450 --> 06:13:47,381 the cbo's not only have you 10999 06:13:47,381 --> 06:13:48,249 been vindicated by the counties 11000 06:13:48,249 --> 06:13:50,384 research, not only have you 11001 06:13:50,384 --> 06:13:51,318 vindicated by the counties in 11002 06:13:51,318 --> 06:13:53,987 depth research, but you have 11003 06:13:53,987 --> 06:13:54,588 been vindicated because you 11004 06:13:54,588 --> 06:13:56,890 have been doing the right 11005 06:13:56,890 --> 06:13:59,659 thing. And I am going to 11006 06:13:59,659 --> 06:14:02,495 continuously push and I hope 11007 06:14:02,495 --> 06:14:03,362 that one day this item becomes 11008 06:14:03,362 --> 06:14:06,833 part of the law in miami-dade 11009 06:14:06,833 --> 06:14:09,833 county. That cbo's should be 11010 06:14:10,703 --> 06:14:11,403 allowed to have its own trust 11011 06:14:11,403 --> 06:14:15,440 fund to fund it. I think this 11012 06:14:15,440 --> 06:14:17,176 is a great starting point so we 11013 06:14:17,176 --> 06:14:20,176 can have that discussion. And 11014 06:14:24,616 --> 06:14:25,282 thirdly, let me publicly's -- 11015 06:14:25,282 --> 06:14:26,217 publicly say it. She has been 11016 06:14:26,217 --> 06:14:28,686 one of the greatest advocates 11017 06:14:28,686 --> 06:14:32,289 for ceos. And I thank you for 11018 06:14:32,289 --> 06:14:33,991 hearing us and ensuring part of 11019 06:14:33,991 --> 06:14:34,725 the budget that they are 11020 06:14:34,725 --> 06:14:38,495 restored and what you did and I 11021 06:14:38,495 --> 06:14:39,196 can tell you by the meetings we 11022 06:14:39,196 --> 06:14:42,265 have had with the cbo's they 11023 06:14:42,265 --> 06:14:44,600 are truly thankful to you and 11024 06:14:44,600 --> 06:14:47,236 for you for doing this. But at 11025 06:14:47,236 --> 06:14:49,772 the same time I also understand 11026 06:14:49,772 --> 06:14:53,372 that with the cbo's lack a 11027 06:14:54,310 --> 06:14:57,910 clear line as it relates to 11028 06:15:03,552 --> 06:15:04,453 receiving funding, it creates 11029 06:15:04,453 --> 06:15:05,153 havoc with not only their 11030 06:15:05,153 --> 06:15:06,210 funders but whether or not they 11031 06:15:06,210 --> 06:15:06,954 are going to be able to carry 11032 06:15:06,954 --> 06:15:07,589 forth the programs that they 11033 06:15:07,589 --> 06:15:11,158 are doing now into the near 11034 06:15:11,158 --> 06:15:13,194 future. So I say with this 11035 06:15:13,194 --> 06:15:16,794 report did and said what I 11036 06:15:18,632 --> 06:15:19,333 figured it would say. That 11037 06:15:19,333 --> 06:15:20,233 these cbo's are doing well and 11038 06:15:20,233 --> 06:15:21,680 the legacy cbo's and lastly I 11039 06:15:21,680 --> 06:15:24,680 do not believe that this 11040 06:15:26,840 --> 06:15:27,541 particular point farm share 11041 06:15:27,541 --> 06:15:28,474 should be included into the 11042 06:15:28,474 --> 06:15:29,109 legacy cbo's. I think farm 11043 06:15:29,109 --> 06:15:32,109 share should be a separate 11044 06:15:32,312 --> 06:15:32,946 item. That allow for us to 11045 06:15:32,946 --> 06:15:33,880 fund it like we fund other 11046 06:15:33,880 --> 06:15:34,713 items separately where they do 11047 06:15:34,713 --> 06:15:36,783 not have to compete for 11048 06:15:36,783 --> 06:15:37,483 funding. I can never 11049 06:15:37,483 --> 06:15:41,830 understand why is it that we 11050 06:15:41,121 --> 06:15:41,788 are asking an organization like 11051 06:15:41,788 --> 06:15:44,557 farm share that feeds the 11052 06:15:44,557 --> 06:15:45,625 majority of the people were 11053 06:15:45,625 --> 06:15:48,250 struggling to survive in 11054 06:15:50,864 --> 06:15:51,732 miami-dade county, where 11055 06:15:51,732 --> 06:15:52,398 pitting them up against other 11056 06:15:52,398 --> 06:15:53,300 cbo's for funding. If we are 11057 06:15:53,300 --> 06:15:57,500 going to fund and take care of 11058 06:16:01,875 --> 06:16:02,576 the people who are least lost 11059 06:16:02,576 --> 06:16:03,577 and sometimes left out because 11060 06:16:03,577 --> 06:16:04,578 a policy, not because of their 11061 06:16:04,578 --> 06:16:05,379 own volition but because of 11062 06:16:05,379 --> 06:16:06,460 policy. We should at least 11063 06:16:06,460 --> 06:16:07,470 identify the fact that farm 11064 06:16:07,470 --> 06:16:09,616 share should not be competing 11065 06:16:09,616 --> 06:16:10,918 for funding. Farm share should 11066 06:16:10,918 --> 06:16:14,121 be a source of income that will 11067 06:16:14,121 --> 06:16:17,491 always be there each and every 11068 06:16:17,491 --> 06:16:18,392 year so they know exactly how 11069 06:16:18,392 --> 06:16:19,293 many more people they would 11070 06:16:19,293 --> 06:16:23,493 need to feed in order to make 11071 06:16:27,340 --> 06:16:27,935 those people whole again as it 11072 06:16:27,935 --> 06:16:28,969 relates to their ability to 11073 06:16:28,969 --> 06:16:29,670 provide a quality of life for 11074 06:16:29,670 --> 06:16:30,505 themselves. So publicly MR. 11075 06:16:30,505 --> 06:16:31,573 Wall I want to publicly say, 11076 06:16:31,573 --> 06:16:32,440 thank you. You have always 11077 06:16:32,440 --> 06:16:33,700 been there every time I have 11078 06:16:33,700 --> 06:16:34,800 called. Your work is 11079 06:16:34,800 --> 06:16:35,443 impeccable and I just hope this 11080 06:16:35,443 --> 06:16:36,511 becomes the foundational point 11081 06:16:36,511 --> 06:16:38,679 when discussions are going to 11082 06:16:38,679 --> 06:16:41,883 be had that really goes to the 11083 06:16:41,883 --> 06:16:44,886 quality of life for people in 11084 06:16:44,886 --> 06:16:47,886 our community. That is it. 11085 06:16:48,189 --> 06:16:48,623 >> all right so we've got 11086 06:16:48,623 --> 06:16:50,623 commissioner? 11087 06:16:51,760 --> 06:16:55,931 >> I like to make sure that I 11088 06:16:55,931 --> 06:16:58,331 agree with commissioner lopez 11089 06:17:05,173 --> 06:17:06,107 1000%. Whatever you give her 11090 06:17:06,107 --> 06:17:06,741 an commissioner from the 11091 06:17:06,741 --> 06:17:07,376 committee that you provide. I 11092 06:17:07,376 --> 06:17:08,844 do not have a problem with 11093 06:17:08,844 --> 06:17:11,847 cbo's. I do think we have a 11094 06:17:11,847 --> 06:17:14,247 whole department which is 11095 06:17:18,520 --> 06:17:19,187 amazing to me. Yet to monitor 11096 06:17:19,187 --> 06:17:20,880 them and make sure they are 11097 06:17:20,880 --> 06:17:23,880 doing what they're supposed to. 11098 06:17:29,310 --> 06:17:29,965 As commissioner lopez said, we 11099 06:17:29,965 --> 06:17:30,767 have to see are there getting 11100 06:17:30,767 --> 06:17:31,501 federal and state grants where 11101 06:17:31,501 --> 06:17:32,135 is the money coming from? 11102 06:17:32,135 --> 06:17:33,136 They're good cbo's and bad 11103 06:17:33,136 --> 06:17:34,300 cbo's like there is good people 11104 06:17:34,300 --> 06:17:34,670 and bad people. I think we 11105 06:17:34,670 --> 06:17:35,505 have an obligation to look at 11106 06:17:35,505 --> 06:17:36,572 that annually actually. I 11107 06:17:36,572 --> 06:17:37,239 would like whatever numbers you 11108 06:17:37,239 --> 06:17:38,908 provide to the commissioner 11109 06:17:38,908 --> 06:17:41,878 lopez that you could provide it 11110 06:17:41,878 --> 06:17:42,879 to the rest of us? 11111 06:17:42,879 --> 06:17:45,879 >> through the chair at the 11112 06:17:51,221 --> 06:17:51,888 report we are referencing this 11113 06:17:51,888 --> 06:17:53,190 agenda item 14 b2. It is about 11114 06:17:53,190 --> 06:17:56,790 60 pages so we are happy to 11115 06:17:56,859 --> 06:17:57,393 supplement and we are taking 11116 06:17:57,393 --> 06:17:57,894 copious notes of the 11117 06:17:57,894 --> 06:17:58,528 recommendations and 11118 06:17:58,528 --> 06:17:59,929 suggestions. Thank you. 11119 06:17:59,929 --> 06:18:03,529 >> I am going to continue a 11120 06:18:04,234 --> 06:18:07,834 motion on 2b5. It has been 11121 06:18:08,838 --> 06:18:09,806 moved by the vice chair and 11122 06:18:09,806 --> 06:18:12,806 signified by st. Aye. All 11123 06:18:14,545 --> 06:18:17,545 opposed, nay. Show 2b5 and 14 11124 06:18:17,915 --> 06:18:22,715 b past. I am going to take a 11125 06:18:23,954 --> 06:18:24,622 item 8k1 for a floor amendment 11126 06:18:24,622 --> 06:18:24,855 if the county attorney can 11127 06:18:24,855 --> 06:18:26,855 read 11128 06:18:36,167 --> 06:18:38,167 it?? 8k1. 11129 06:18:41,940 --> 06:18:44,940 >> amend item 8 k1 on page 031 11130 06:18:49,213 --> 06:18:50,140 exhibit c reduced 273,000 b 11131 06:18:50,140 --> 06:18:52,140 $300,000. The recapture 11132 06:18:58,356 --> 06:18:59,900 community develop block grant 11133 06:18:59,900 --> 06:19:00,124 from district 10. From 11134 06:19:00,124 --> 06:19:01,930 miami-dade county housing and 11135 06:19:01,930 --> 06:19:02,127 community development for 11136 06:19:02,127 --> 06:19:03,128 economic development 11137 06:19:03,128 --> 06:19:05,528 activities. On page mdc 035 11138 06:19:11,770 --> 06:19:13,272 exhibit d for the recommended 11139 06:19:13,272 --> 06:19:14,306 amount of reallocated community 11140 06:19:14,306 --> 06:19:15,700 development block grant commits 11141 06:19:15,700 --> 06:19:15,941 tradition funds from district 11142 06:19:15,941 --> 06:19:16,775 10 miami-dade county community 11143 06:19:16,775 --> 06:19:17,276 services department for the 11144 06:19:17,276 --> 06:19:18,277 district 10 housing 11145 06:19:18,277 --> 06:19:19,100 beautification rehabilitation 11146 06:19:19,100 --> 06:19:22,100 program. On page mdc zero 25 11147 06:19:25,551 --> 06:19:26,452 exhibit a remove the 11148 06:19:26,452 --> 06:19:27,520 recommendation to award 11149 06:19:27,520 --> 06:19:28,200 $126,570 of community 11150 06:19:28,200 --> 06:19:30,200 development block grant. 11151 06:19:34,126 --> 06:19:35,940 Commission district community 11152 06:19:35,940 --> 06:19:36,620 services department for housing 11153 06:19:36,620 --> 06:19:38,620 beautification rehabilitation 11154 06:19:46,472 --> 06:19:47,406 services in district 10. On 11155 06:19:47,406 --> 06:19:48,107 page mdc zero 18 exhibit a 11156 06:19:48,107 --> 06:19:48,941 increase from $408,000 b 11157 06:19:48,941 --> 06:19:49,542 $508,000 the funding 11158 06:19:49,542 --> 06:19:50,911 recommendation for county 11159 06:19:50,911 --> 06:19:51,611 housing community development 11160 06:19:51,611 --> 06:19:54,611 service. On page mdc zero 18 11161 06:19:55,448 --> 06:19:56,349 exhibit a increase from zero 18 11162 06:19:56,349 --> 06:19:56,649 exhibit a increase from 11163 06:19:56,649 --> 06:19:58,649 $171,990 b 11164 06:20:04,558 --> 06:20:05,258 $198,501 the funding 11165 06:20:05,258 --> 06:20:06,559 recommendation for miami-dade 11166 06:20:06,559 --> 06:20:07,594 county community development 11167 06:20:07,594 --> 06:20:09,280 economic development housing 11168 06:20:09,280 --> 06:20:09,662 public facilities and capital 11169 06:20:09,662 --> 06:20:10,598 improvements. And a conforming 11170 06:20:10,598 --> 06:20:10,831 changes to resolution and 11171 06:20:10,831 --> 06:20:11,932 title. 11172 06:20:11,932 --> 06:20:12,699 >> I will entertain a motion. 11173 06:20:12,699 --> 06:20:15,168 Vice chair moves it and 11174 06:20:15,168 --> 06:20:15,903 seconded by commissioner 11175 06:20:15,903 --> 06:20:17,671 gonzales. All in favor signify 11176 06:20:17,671 --> 06:20:21,271 by st. Aye. All opposed, not 11177 06:20:26,279 --> 06:20:29,879 nay. -- all opposed, nay. I 11178 06:20:30,785 --> 06:20:33,185 have eating commissioners. I 11179 06:20:35,256 --> 06:20:39,456 am going to skip and let's go 11180 06:20:41,629 --> 06:20:42,463 to and let's go to and let's go 11181 06:20:42,463 --> 06:20:44,863 to 2b8. Commissioner from 11182 06:20:45,633 --> 06:20:48,330 district 5 are you here? 11183 06:20:50,772 --> 06:20:51,506 Commissioner from district 8? 11184 06:20:51,506 --> 06:20:51,940 >> I can take mine which one 11185 06:20:51,940 --> 06:20:53,940 do you have? 11186 06:20:59,800 --> 06:21:00,470 >> let's take up 2b6. 11187 06:21:00,470 --> 06:21:03,470 >> it is really quick. We 11188 06:21:05,654 --> 06:21:06,320 talked about this at transit 11189 06:21:06,320 --> 06:21:07,355 committee. I just wanted to 11190 06:21:07,355 --> 06:21:08,322 mention it again. I appreciate 11191 06:21:08,322 --> 06:21:09,357 the report on the electric 11192 06:21:09,357 --> 06:21:11,660 buses. I really think that we 11193 06:21:11,660 --> 06:21:12,694 need an update of what is 11194 06:21:12,694 --> 06:21:14,796 happening with the litigation 11195 06:21:14,796 --> 06:21:18,396 and the bankruptcy and all of 11196 06:21:19,568 --> 06:21:20,502 that. I am happy to move it. 11197 06:21:20,502 --> 06:21:21,470 >> moved by commissioner 11198 06:21:21,470 --> 06:21:24,470 regalado and seconded by vice 11199 06:21:26,575 --> 06:21:27,409 chair. All in favor signify by 11200 06:21:27,409 --> 06:21:30,409 st. Aye. All opposed nay. 11201 06:21:30,980 --> 06:21:32,181 Show it passes. 2b 10 11202 06:21:32,181 --> 06:21:34,181 commissioner from district 7. 11203 06:21:41,591 --> 06:21:42,291 >> 2b 10. I appreciate the 11204 06:21:42,291 --> 06:21:43,159 report. Only thing I think we 11205 06:21:43,159 --> 06:21:44,160 should reconsider when we do 11206 06:21:44,160 --> 06:21:44,827 this report is also evaluating 11207 06:21:44,827 --> 06:21:46,929 our lobbyist. We changed the 11208 06:21:46,929 --> 06:21:47,697 way that we hired our lobbyist 11209 06:21:47,697 --> 06:21:50,697 this last time around. There 11210 06:21:55,604 --> 06:21:56,539 were a lot of expectations and 11211 06:21:56,539 --> 06:21:57,173 I know that it was a difficult 11212 06:21:57,173 --> 06:21:58,141 session but we have had two 11213 06:21:58,141 --> 06:21:59,141 difficult sessions. So I think 11214 06:21:59,141 --> 06:22:02,741 moving forward we should have a 11215 06:22:03,880 --> 06:22:04,481 postmortem and really look at 11216 06:22:04,481 --> 06:22:06,182 how people did so we can use 11217 06:22:06,182 --> 06:22:07,383 that to inform our decisions 11218 06:22:07,383 --> 06:22:10,383 when we choose our lobbying 11219 06:22:10,554 --> 06:22:11,870 team for the next year. I am 11220 06:22:11,870 --> 06:22:13,487 happy to move it. 11221 06:22:22,633 --> 06:22:23,600 >> it has been moved by 11222 06:22:23,600 --> 06:22:24,568 commissioner regalado and 11223 06:22:24,568 --> 06:22:25,569 seconded by vice chair. All in 11224 06:22:25,569 --> 06:22:26,270 favor signify by st. Aye. All 11225 06:22:26,270 --> 06:22:28,270 opposed, nay. Charlotte 11226 06:22:34,780 --> 06:22:34,979 passed. 2b8. 11227 06:22:34,979 --> 06:22:35,579 >> thank you so much MR. 11228 06:22:35,579 --> 06:22:36,580 Terman. I have a quick 11229 06:22:36,580 --> 06:22:37,447 question. I noted we have $525 11230 06:22:37,447 --> 06:22:38,482 million in outstanding county 11231 06:22:38,482 --> 06:22:40,317 debt as of last year. So my 11232 06:22:40,317 --> 06:22:41,850 question is a couple of things 11233 06:22:41,850 --> 06:22:45,285 and if you don't have it, you 11234 06:22:46,223 --> 06:22:47,124 can certainly get it to me. 11235 06:22:47,124 --> 06:22:47,825 How long has this debt been 11236 06:22:47,825 --> 06:22:48,325 outstanding? It is almost and 11237 06:22:48,325 --> 06:22:50,325 a half $1 billion. 11238 06:22:51,396 --> 06:22:52,330 >> through the chair the 11239 06:22:52,330 --> 06:22:52,864 director of internal 11240 06:22:52,864 --> 06:22:54,864 compliance. 11241 06:22:56,601 --> 06:22:58,703 >> I'm director of internal 11242 06:22:58,703 --> 06:22:59,770 compliance. The current 11243 06:22:59,770 --> 06:23:02,170 collection division falls under 11244 06:23:03,740 --> 06:23:06,740 me. Actually the county with 11245 06:23:07,745 --> 06:23:08,680 the team we collect accounts 11246 06:23:08,680 --> 06:23:09,614 that are older than four years 11247 06:23:09,614 --> 06:23:11,150 old usually and up to probably 11248 06:23:11,150 --> 06:23:14,886 30 years old. So it is a very 11249 06:23:14,886 --> 06:23:15,620 long outstanding debt that we 11250 06:23:15,620 --> 06:23:17,288 collect on behalf of not just 11251 06:23:17,288 --> 06:23:18,890 county departments but also 11252 06:23:18,890 --> 06:23:20,890 jackson health system. 11253 06:23:21,360 --> 06:23:23,950 >> okay as a follow-up 11254 06:23:23,950 --> 06:23:24,897 question so I know that 11255 06:23:24,897 --> 06:23:26,897 commissioner cohen higgins 11256 06:23:28,667 --> 06:23:29,567 passed a resolution to see if a 11257 06:23:29,567 --> 06:23:32,567 third party could do better 11258 06:23:39,244 --> 06:23:40,312 than we are doing. I noted 11259 06:23:40,312 --> 06:23:40,947 that you said that only 8% you 11260 06:23:40,947 --> 06:23:41,747 thought were eligible for sale 11261 06:23:41,747 --> 06:23:42,748 to third-party collection 11262 06:23:42,748 --> 06:23:45,618 agencies. Then you went on to 11263 06:23:45,618 --> 06:23:46,519 say this was based on legal 11264 06:23:46,519 --> 06:23:47,486 risks, data validation 11265 06:23:47,486 --> 06:23:48,487 challenges and impacts to 11266 06:23:48,487 --> 06:23:49,955 constituent services. I don't 11267 06:23:49,955 --> 06:23:52,355 understand that only because 11268 06:23:55,461 --> 06:23:56,696 there is lots of doctor offices 11269 06:23:56,696 --> 06:23:57,730 that have lots of confidential 11270 06:23:57,730 --> 06:23:59,832 information and always send the 11271 06:23:59,832 --> 06:24:00,566 receivables out to a third 11272 06:24:00,566 --> 06:24:04,400 party. Can you expand as to 11273 06:24:04,400 --> 06:24:05,939 why only 8% to be sent to a 11274 06:24:05,939 --> 06:24:06,873 third party for collection? 11275 06:24:06,873 --> 06:24:09,273 >> great question. So this 11276 06:24:09,942 --> 06:24:10,844 report the way it was directed 11277 06:24:10,844 --> 06:24:13,844 to the administration was to 11278 06:24:13,846 --> 06:24:16,246 not include jackson health. 11279 06:24:19,919 --> 06:24:20,588 This does not include the 11280 06:24:20,588 --> 06:24:21,422 physicians or the hospital 11281 06:24:21,422 --> 06:24:22,990 bills. This balances for 11282 06:24:22,990 --> 06:24:24,291 county departments. With the 11283 06:24:24,291 --> 06:24:26,691 county departments there is 11284 06:24:30,498 --> 06:24:31,465 compliance. It is not just the 11285 06:24:31,465 --> 06:24:32,660 collection we do, we will work 11286 06:24:32,660 --> 06:24:32,966 closely with the county 11287 06:24:32,966 --> 06:24:35,366 departments to have to 11288 06:24:38,438 --> 06:24:39,439 effectuate compliance along 11289 06:24:39,439 --> 06:24:40,441 with this outstanding amount. 11290 06:24:40,441 --> 06:24:41,750 >> so the $525 million 11291 06:24:41,750 --> 06:24:41,342 includes jackson or does not 11292 06:24:41,342 --> 06:24:41,976 include? 11293 06:24:41,976 --> 06:24:42,910 >> does not. 11294 06:24:42,910 --> 06:24:43,377 >> do you have what jackson's 11295 06:24:43,377 --> 06:24:45,377 that is? 11296 06:24:46,246 --> 06:24:47,414 >> about $2 billion. 11297 06:24:47,414 --> 06:24:49,414 >> 2 billion? 11298 06:24:53,888 --> 06:24:54,889 >> yes. 11299 06:24:54,889 --> 06:24:55,456 >> you can imagine why I am 11300 06:24:55,456 --> 06:24:57,558 somewhat stunned by these 11301 06:24:57,558 --> 06:24:58,526 numbers especially when we are 11302 06:24:58,526 --> 06:25:00,926 struggling to find revenue 11303 06:25:02,197 --> 06:25:05,197 streams. What is jackson doing 11304 06:25:06,201 --> 06:25:06,934 to collect its $2 billion? Do 11305 06:25:06,934 --> 06:25:09,334 you have any idea? 11306 06:25:11,606 --> 06:25:12,641 >> we are not in close contact 11307 06:25:12,641 --> 06:25:13,975 with jackson. We are actually 11308 06:25:13,975 --> 06:25:16,375 their tertiary collector. So 11309 06:25:16,845 --> 06:25:17,812 they have an in-house 11310 06:25:17,812 --> 06:25:18,346 collector. They also have 11311 06:25:18,346 --> 06:25:20,549 another set of outside 11312 06:25:20,549 --> 06:25:21,517 collectors along with us as a 11313 06:25:21,517 --> 06:25:23,180 tertiary collector for them. 11314 06:25:23,180 --> 06:25:24,686 So they do have some efforts to 11315 06:25:24,686 --> 06:25:26,655 collect their own debt. 11316 06:25:26,655 --> 06:25:29,658 >> so at what point do we 11317 06:25:29,658 --> 06:25:32,658 write off bad debt? You're 11318 06:25:38,567 --> 06:25:39,267 telling me 30 years at some 11319 06:25:39,267 --> 06:25:40,269 juncture and I am an accountant 11320 06:25:40,269 --> 06:25:41,637 by trade, I do not understand 11321 06:25:41,637 --> 06:25:42,638 any of this. 11322 06:25:42,638 --> 06:25:45,638 >> we are in conversation with 11323 06:25:46,608 --> 06:25:50,208 them because they are where it 11324 06:25:51,314 --> 06:25:52,582 limits us for collect up to 11325 06:25:52,582 --> 06:25:56,182 three years. We are working to 11326 06:25:59,121 --> 06:26:00,189 understand them better. They 11327 06:26:00,189 --> 06:26:01,570 do recall accounts often from 11328 06:26:01,570 --> 06:26:01,658 us when they are not deemed 11329 06:26:01,658 --> 06:26:02,192 collectible. So we work 11330 06:26:02,192 --> 06:26:04,192 closely with them. 11331 06:26:04,861 --> 06:26:08,461 >> can you provide me with the 11332 06:26:11,835 --> 06:26:12,235 amounts that are four years or 11333 06:26:12,235 --> 06:26:13,169 five years? 11334 06:26:13,169 --> 06:26:13,503 >> we can provide that to you 11335 06:26:13,503 --> 06:26:14,204 separately. 11336 06:26:14,204 --> 06:26:15,672 > separate them from 11337 06:26:15,672 --> 06:26:18,410 jackson and county. I would 11338 06:26:18,410 --> 06:26:20,441 urge my colleagues -- 11339 06:26:22,612 --> 06:26:24,130 >> can we have silence while 11340 06:26:24,130 --> 06:26:26,130 the commissioners speaking? 11341 06:26:28,518 --> 06:26:29,119 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. I 11342 06:26:29,119 --> 06:26:32,119 think these are very large 11343 06:26:34,158 --> 06:26:35,192 numbers. Clearly, $2 billion 11344 06:26:35,192 --> 06:26:38,192 from jackson and happy billion 11345 06:26:39,495 --> 06:26:40,498 for the county departments. At 11346 06:26:40,498 --> 06:26:41,165 some juncture we either have to 11347 06:26:41,165 --> 06:26:43,400 collect this or we have to 11348 06:26:43,400 --> 06:26:47,000 write it off. But we can't 11349 06:26:49,706 --> 06:26:50,708 continue to carry this kind of 11350 06:26:50,708 --> 06:26:51,742 huge collectibles. They are 11351 06:26:51,742 --> 06:26:54,742 receivables are they are not 11352 06:26:56,413 --> 06:26:57,348 receivables. At this point I 11353 06:26:57,348 --> 06:26:58,182 don't know anymore. Thank you 11354 06:26:58,182 --> 06:27:00,582 so much MR. CHAIRMAN. 11355 06:27:03,421 --> 06:27:04,550 >> thank you commissioner. 11356 06:27:04,550 --> 06:27:06,550 Commissioner cohen higgins? 11357 06:27:13,898 --> 06:27:14,899 >> thank you commissioner 11358 06:27:14,899 --> 06:27:15,467 lopez for your line of 11359 06:27:15,467 --> 06:27:16,401 questioning. When these 11360 06:27:16,401 --> 06:27:17,368 numbers were brought to my 11361 06:27:17,368 --> 06:27:18,369 attention when I asked for this 11362 06:27:18,369 --> 06:27:19,700 report sometimes ago, I don't 11363 06:27:19,700 --> 06:27:19,970 remember of the date of the 11364 06:27:19,970 --> 06:27:23,570 report. It was quite some time 11365 06:27:25,710 --> 06:27:26,711 ago. I was to -- surprised by 11366 06:27:26,711 --> 06:27:27,379 the numbers. Jackson was 11367 06:27:27,379 --> 06:27:28,212 excluded because you all 11368 06:27:28,212 --> 06:27:28,780 advised me that jackson 11369 06:27:28,780 --> 06:27:29,748 essentially needed to be 11370 06:27:29,748 --> 06:27:30,315 excluded that you were the 11371 06:27:30,315 --> 06:27:31,250 absolute final stop for 11372 06:27:31,250 --> 06:27:32,417 jackson. For whatever reason 11373 06:27:32,417 --> 06:27:34,817 selling jackson's debt was 11374 06:27:39,557 --> 06:27:40,458 nothing there not -- not 11375 06:27:40,458 --> 06:27:44,580 feasible for you to do. You 11376 06:27:45,830 --> 06:27:46,831 also mean jackson had to be 11377 06:27:46,831 --> 06:27:47,398 excluded and so just to clarify 11378 06:27:47,398 --> 06:27:48,650 regarding the line of 11379 06:27:48,650 --> 06:27:50,650 questioning with commissioner 11380 06:27:56,306 --> 06:27:56,940 lopez so let's remove the $2 11381 06:27:56,940 --> 06:27:57,808 billion not saying that we 11382 06:27:57,808 --> 06:27:58,442 should but assuming that the 11383 06:27:58,442 --> 06:27:59,375 guidance that I was given is 11384 06:27:59,375 --> 06:28:00,310 accurate and there's tons of of 11385 06:28:00,310 --> 06:28:01,278 supporting information as to 11386 06:28:01,278 --> 06:28:04,878 why we would need to exclude $2 11387 06:28:05,810 --> 06:28:05,949 billion. We had $500 million 11388 06:28:05,949 --> 06:28:06,716 that is old to miami-dade 11389 06:28:06,716 --> 06:28:09,180 county. This report says as 11390 06:28:09,180 --> 06:28:09,651 you already reticulated 11391 06:28:09,651 --> 06:28:10,586 commissioner lopez only of 11392 06:28:10,586 --> 06:28:12,586 fractional percentage is 11393 06:28:17,359 --> 06:28:18,127 somehow valid or viable to be 11394 06:28:18,127 --> 06:28:19,610 sold to a third party. I know 11395 06:28:19,610 --> 06:28:20,395 it has been a long time since 11396 06:28:20,395 --> 06:28:23,395 we have engaged with or 11397 06:28:30,471 --> 06:28:31,372 solicited or entertain the idea 11398 06:28:31,372 --> 06:28:32,106 of utilizing a third-party 11399 06:28:32,106 --> 06:28:33,700 service. But it has also been 11400 06:28:33,700 --> 06:28:33,908 a long time since we have been 11401 06:28:33,908 --> 06:28:34,875 in a financial position in 11402 06:28:34,875 --> 06:28:35,910 miami-dade county. If you 11403 06:28:35,910 --> 06:28:38,910 represent in this report a $40 11404 06:28:40,981 --> 06:28:41,648 million is viable or legit to 11405 06:28:41,648 --> 06:28:42,616 potentially be sold on the 11406 06:28:42,616 --> 06:28:43,517 third market, I will take it. 11407 06:28:43,517 --> 06:28:47,117 Let's start there. If we can 11408 06:28:47,354 --> 06:28:48,355 sell $40 million of old age 11409 06:28:48,355 --> 06:28:49,322 debt for 10 or $20 million, I 11410 06:28:49,322 --> 06:28:53,522 will take it. I will take it. 11411 06:28:53,793 --> 06:28:54,494 And so I would like an to the 11412 06:28:54,494 --> 06:28:55,327 attorneys and assuming 11413 06:28:55,327 --> 06:28:56,395 obviously I want to hear from 11414 06:28:56,395 --> 06:28:59,395 my colleagues if they are 11415 06:29:01,600 --> 06:29:02,334 supportive of this? This is 11416 06:29:02,334 --> 06:29:03,202 simply report and you all do 11417 06:29:03,202 --> 06:29:04,269 not take the next step two out 11418 06:29:04,269 --> 06:29:07,869 and find a third-party to try 11419 06:29:09,607 --> 06:29:11,476 and sell a very fraction is the 11420 06:29:11,476 --> 06:29:12,377 debt that we can sell. I want 11421 06:29:12,377 --> 06:29:13,511 you to take it further. We 11422 06:29:13,511 --> 06:29:16,647 need the money. What do I need 11423 06:29:16,647 --> 06:29:17,782 to do assuming the support of 11424 06:29:17,782 --> 06:29:20,510 my colleagues to actually 11425 06:29:20,510 --> 06:29:23,651 trigger you all going out and 11426 06:29:24,321 --> 06:29:25,255 making the effort to sell that 11427 06:29:25,255 --> 06:29:26,190 debt? And again we are just 11428 06:29:26,190 --> 06:29:28,725 talking about a universe of $40 11429 06:29:28,725 --> 06:29:29,793 million. 11430 06:29:29,793 --> 06:29:30,694 >> just some clarification. 11431 06:29:30,694 --> 06:29:31,595 There was $41 million in the 11432 06:29:31,595 --> 06:29:33,995 market our understanding is 11433 06:29:37,300 --> 06:29:38,234 that the return is a penny to 11434 06:29:38,234 --> 06:29:38,968 five cents on the dollar. So 11435 06:29:38,968 --> 06:29:42,400 the return in the market could 11436 06:29:42,400 --> 06:29:42,471 be around $410,000 b 11437 06:29:42,471 --> 06:29:44,471 $2 million 11438 06:29:45,410 --> 06:29:46,750 for that $41 million. The 11439 06:29:46,750 --> 06:29:48,100 county with our collectors that 11440 06:29:48,100 --> 06:29:50,712 we have in-house, I will give 11441 06:29:50,712 --> 06:29:51,346 you an example to date we have 11442 06:29:51,346 --> 06:29:53,346 collected about $21 million 11443 06:29:56,384 --> 06:29:58,784 gross. That represents the 11444 06:29:59,387 --> 06:30:00,455 referred amount to us from the 11445 06:30:00,455 --> 06:30:01,389 referred department. I want to 11446 06:30:01,389 --> 06:30:03,157 clarify those are not our 11447 06:30:03,157 --> 06:30:05,557 receivables. It started at 11448 06:30:09,630 --> 06:30:09,963 departments and we don't carry 11449 06:30:09,963 --> 06:30:10,631 receivables from my department. 11450 06:30:10,631 --> 06:30:11,498 it is on behalf of someone 11451 06:30:11,498 --> 06:30:12,499 else. I will give you an 11452 06:30:12,499 --> 06:30:14,635 example. Today we have 11453 06:30:14,635 --> 06:30:17,350 collected $21 million of gross. 11454 06:30:17,403 --> 06:30:18,238 We distribute 70% of money 11455 06:30:18,238 --> 06:30:20,638 directly to departments and 11456 06:30:26,879 --> 06:30:27,880 jackson. The original amount 11457 06:30:27,880 --> 06:30:28,480 was about $42 million. So that 11458 06:30:28,480 --> 06:30:30,880 represents that we are 11459 06:30:33,185 --> 06:30:34,186 collecting 51% of this money 11460 06:30:34,186 --> 06:30:34,920 that has been outstanding. So 11461 06:30:34,920 --> 06:30:35,888 that is why we caution instead 11462 06:30:35,888 --> 06:30:37,656 of selling it to a third party, 11463 06:30:37,656 --> 06:30:38,523 we believe that our department 11464 06:30:38,523 --> 06:30:42,123 can do much better. We can 11465 06:30:42,294 --> 06:30:43,328 also provide the direct service 11466 06:30:43,328 --> 06:30:45,728 to our constituents. Instead 11467 06:30:46,597 --> 06:30:47,532 of a third-party trying to 11468 06:30:47,532 --> 06:30:49,100 collect this money from the 11469 06:30:49,100 --> 06:30:51,500 residence. The other factor 11470 06:30:54,505 --> 06:30:55,205 for the departments in the 11471 06:30:55,205 --> 06:30:56,600 county, it is not just 11472 06:30:56,600 --> 06:30:57,574 collecting money, it is also 11473 06:30:57,574 --> 06:30:59,900 making sure that they are in 11474 06:30:59,900 --> 06:31:02,900 compliance with whatever it is 11475 06:31:03,113 --> 06:31:06,683 that initiated a fee or a code 11476 06:31:06,683 --> 06:31:07,717 compliance that was issued to 11477 06:31:07,717 --> 06:31:08,517 the resident or the business. 11478 06:31:08,517 --> 06:31:10,917 >> thank you for that 11479 06:31:13,222 --> 06:31:14,257 explanation. I am perplexed. 11480 06:31:14,257 --> 06:31:16,580 You are representing your 11481 06:31:16,580 --> 06:31:16,926 department has a 50% collection 11482 06:31:16,926 --> 06:31:18,460 rate of all debts that you all 11483 06:31:18,460 --> 06:31:20,460 collect for? 11484 06:31:22,431 --> 06:31:26,310 >> as jackson as an amount and 11485 06:31:28,737 --> 06:31:29,604 I'm referring to this fiscal 11486 06:31:29,604 --> 06:31:30,572 year what we have done to date. 11487 06:31:30,572 --> 06:31:31,440 >> you are collecting $20 11488 06:31:31,440 --> 06:31:32,173 million not on $40 million over 11489 06:31:32,173 --> 06:31:32,873 your collecting $20 million on 11490 06:31:32,873 --> 06:31:34,873 what aggregate number? 11491 06:31:53,793 --> 06:31:54,761 >> that represents about $41 11492 06:31:54,761 --> 06:31:55,628 million. As the accounts come 11493 06:31:55,628 --> 06:31:56,329 in they get referred to our 11494 06:31:56,329 --> 06:31:57,196 collectors and the collectors 11495 06:31:57,196 --> 06:31:58,164 handle them as files on the 11496 06:31:58,164 --> 06:31:58,497 desk. That is what we do 11497 06:31:58,497 --> 06:31:59,298 internally. 11498 06:31:59,298 --> 06:32:00,332 >> what is the number of the 11499 06:32:00,332 --> 06:32:01,333 $2 billion and the 500 million? 11500 06:32:01,333 --> 06:32:02,268 what is it that your collecting 11501 06:32:02,268 --> 06:32:02,535 on $2 billion in the $500 11502 06:32:02,535 --> 06:32:03,302 million? 11503 06:32:03,302 --> 06:32:04,269 >> that is collected all of 11504 06:32:04,269 --> 06:32:04,937 the files are brought into our 11505 06:32:04,937 --> 06:32:05,837 system that we manage in-house 11506 06:32:05,837 --> 06:32:06,705 and we allocate the collected 11507 06:32:06,705 --> 06:32:07,639 amounts to our collectors and 11508 06:32:07,639 --> 06:32:08,340 that is what they do on a daily 11509 06:32:08,340 --> 06:32:09,140 basis. The reach out and we 11510 06:32:09,140 --> 06:32:10,142 also send letters. 11511 06:32:10,142 --> 06:32:12,542 >> this is not particularly 11512 06:32:23,721 --> 06:32:24,622 complex at all. You 11513 06:32:24,622 --> 06:32:25,322 represented that your 11514 06:32:25,322 --> 06:32:26,123 collection rate is at 50% and 11515 06:32:26,123 --> 06:32:27,124 that you have collected $21 11516 06:32:27,124 --> 06:32:28,125 million to date. What is being 11517 06:32:28,125 --> 06:32:28,826 eliminated is the other very 11518 06:32:28,826 --> 06:32:29,793 important number. I'm just 11519 06:32:29,793 --> 06:32:30,727 trying to get with that number 11520 06:32:30,727 --> 06:32:32,329 is. You're presented that 11521 06:32:32,329 --> 06:32:33,296 there's $2 billion in 11522 06:32:33,296 --> 06:32:34,264 outstanding debt service for 11523 06:32:34,264 --> 06:32:35,265 jackson alone and $500 million 11524 06:32:35,265 --> 06:32:36,299 countywide. I don't understand 11525 06:32:36,299 --> 06:32:36,967 how you represent the $21 11526 06:32:36,967 --> 06:32:38,100 million as a 50% collection 11527 06:32:38,100 --> 06:32:41,100 rate. I'm trying to understand 11528 06:32:44,474 --> 06:32:45,475 the math is not working. 11529 06:32:45,475 --> 06:32:46,176 >> let me try to explain it a 11530 06:32:46,176 --> 06:32:49,176 different way. Let's say we 11531 06:32:54,585 --> 06:32:55,285 get referred on a daily basis 11532 06:32:55,285 --> 06:32:56,186 on 1000 accounts. On a daily 11533 06:32:56,186 --> 06:32:57,540 basis we get 1000 accounts with 11534 06:32:57,540 --> 06:32:57,754 an amount attached to it. 11535 06:32:57,754 --> 06:32:58,755 Those accounts come into our 11536 06:32:58,755 --> 06:32:59,589 system that we hold in-house 11537 06:32:59,589 --> 06:33:03,189 and we allocate it to our 11538 06:33:03,961 --> 06:33:04,962 collectors. They are allocated 11539 06:33:04,962 --> 06:33:05,830 as files and that is what they 11540 06:33:05,830 --> 06:33:06,997 have to collect. They go to 11541 06:33:06,997 --> 06:33:07,831 the files on their system and 11542 06:33:07,831 --> 06:33:09,299 they can have 5000 files at a 11543 06:33:09,299 --> 06:33:12,299 time. They act on those 11544 06:33:17,575 --> 06:33:18,242 collections. But our inventory 11545 06:33:18,242 --> 06:33:19,176 is the big dollars that you 11546 06:33:19,176 --> 06:33:20,478 see. We are actively trying to 11547 06:33:20,478 --> 06:33:22,878 collect on that inventory. 11548 06:33:23,214 --> 06:33:26,814 That is sitting in our system. 11549 06:33:27,452 --> 06:33:30,789 So it is in the aggregate. 11550 06:33:30,789 --> 06:33:31,790 >> so here's the thing. I am 11551 06:33:31,790 --> 06:33:34,992 going to yield the floor to my 11552 06:33:34,992 --> 06:33:35,660 colleagues. The vice CHAIRMAN 11553 06:33:35,660 --> 06:33:36,528 Has a gavel. I'm going to 11554 06:33:36,528 --> 06:33:40,728 yield the floor because I see a 11555 06:33:41,667 --> 06:33:42,634 lot of -- I'm not sure the 11556 06:33:42,634 --> 06:33:45,404 question that I asked has been 11557 06:33:45,404 --> 06:33:46,171 answered. And again I think 11558 06:33:46,171 --> 06:33:49,171 michael has been crystal clear 11559 06:33:49,441 --> 06:33:54,241 on this for the 6 and a half or 11560 06:33:57,349 --> 06:33:57,916 eight and nine wants to -- 11561 06:33:57,916 --> 06:33:59,250 months that we have been 11562 06:33:59,250 --> 06:34:02,850 working on this. Resale of the 11563 06:34:03,723 --> 06:34:04,756 time the mayor is the ceo of a 11564 06:34:04,756 --> 06:34:06,756 $17 billion corporation. We 11565 06:34:09,994 --> 06:34:10,697 use that analogy frequently. 11566 06:34:10,697 --> 06:34:11,631 If we have this much debt on 11567 06:34:11,631 --> 06:34:12,532 our books and the director of 11568 06:34:12,532 --> 06:34:13,499 the department charged with 11569 06:34:13,499 --> 06:34:14,500 collecting the debt is making a 11570 06:34:14,500 --> 06:34:15,434 public representation on the 11571 06:34:15,434 --> 06:34:16,969 record that your collection 11572 06:34:16,969 --> 06:34:19,471 rate is 50% and that is $21 11573 06:34:19,471 --> 06:34:21,871 million annually, two things 11574 06:34:26,120 --> 06:34:26,913 can -- can't be true at the 11575 06:34:26,913 --> 06:34:29,913 same time. It will be $40 11576 06:34:31,117 --> 06:34:31,818 million and I am not math 11577 06:34:31,818 --> 06:34:33,853 inclined I am a lawyer. 11578 06:34:33,853 --> 06:34:36,253 Numbers don't necessarily make 11579 06:34:37,556 --> 06:34:38,491 sense to me. This at the most 11580 06:34:38,491 --> 06:34:42,910 basic level does. I asked you 11581 06:34:44,310 --> 06:34:44,898 a number of different times 11582 06:34:44,898 --> 06:34:45,866 essentially the same thing what 11583 06:34:45,866 --> 06:34:46,466 is I believe is a simple 11584 06:34:46,466 --> 06:34:47,133 question. I'm not sure why I 11585 06:34:47,133 --> 06:34:47,834 am not getting a response to 11586 06:34:47,834 --> 06:34:51,434 what I think is a simple 11587 06:34:51,806 --> 06:34:52,740 question. To me it yields what 11588 06:34:52,740 --> 06:34:56,940 I think is an even greater need 11589 06:34:57,778 --> 06:34:58,812 to consider using third parties 11590 06:34:58,812 --> 06:35:00,581 to collect our debt. Thank you 11591 06:35:00,581 --> 06:35:02,581 MR. Chair. 11592 06:35:06,887 --> 06:35:07,688 >> we understand there is 11593 06:35:07,688 --> 06:35:08,355 confusing information we are 11594 06:35:08,355 --> 06:35:09,389 trying to make it clear. 11595 06:35:09,389 --> 06:35:10,958 Because obviously by mentioning 11596 06:35:10,958 --> 06:35:14,558 half a million she is confusing 11597 06:35:18,980 --> 06:35:18,933 what the total amount of 11598 06:35:18,933 --> 06:35:19,600 payments versus what is not 11599 06:35:19,600 --> 06:35:22,600 collected. We just need to 11600 06:35:23,204 --> 06:35:26,804 clarify that. If paul can take 11601 06:35:31,790 --> 06:35:32,213 a second to clarify? 11602 06:35:32,213 --> 06:35:33,810 >> go ahead and clarify that 11603 06:35:33,810 --> 06:35:33,882 and commissioner gilbert is 11604 06:35:33,882 --> 06:35:34,215 going to come in on that one 11605 06:35:34,215 --> 06:35:36,215 after that. 11606 06:35:36,317 --> 06:35:39,317 >> I think director was saying 11607 06:35:40,589 --> 06:35:41,390 of the $42 million that they 11608 06:35:41,390 --> 06:35:44,390 were collecting, they were able 11609 06:35:49,430 --> 06:35:51,430 to collect $21 million. 11610 06:35:52,601 --> 06:35:53,469 >> one second. Listen 11611 06:35:53,469 --> 06:35:56,672 everyone we are going to do 11612 06:35:56,672 --> 06:36:00,872 this in order. I know this is 11613 06:36:01,410 --> 06:36:02,344 an exciting topic, please come 11614 06:36:02,344 --> 06:36:05,581 back quickly. Clear up the air 11615 06:36:05,581 --> 06:36:06,582 and then we will give the 11616 06:36:06,582 --> 06:36:08,160 microphone over to commissioner 11617 06:36:08,160 --> 06:36:10,160 gilbert. 11618 06:36:11,220 --> 06:36:13,122 >> the total outstanding debt 11619 06:36:13,122 --> 06:36:16,122 for the county is over $500 11620 06:36:17,459 --> 06:36:19,859 million. Or $400 million. Of 11621 06:36:20,930 --> 06:36:23,930 the 41 of the $41 million that 11622 06:36:27,503 --> 06:36:28,204 the staff was collecting and 11623 06:36:28,204 --> 06:36:29,205 issuing the letters they were 11624 06:36:29,205 --> 06:36:31,605 able to collect $21 million. 11625 06:36:31,741 --> 06:36:33,710 That is why she is saying -- 11626 06:36:33,710 --> 06:36:35,710 >> just stop please. 11627 06:36:39,782 --> 06:36:40,751 >> no no no listen guys we are 11628 06:36:40,751 --> 06:36:42,190 going to do this in order. 11629 06:36:42,190 --> 06:36:45,190 We're going to get there. 11630 06:36:50,393 --> 06:36:53,363 Please come back to the podium. 11631 06:36:53,363 --> 06:36:56,330 I apologize. You are going to 11632 06:36:56,330 --> 06:37:00,233 be fine trust me on this one. 11633 06:37:01,605 --> 06:37:02,306 If you can repeat what you 11634 06:37:02,306 --> 06:37:04,475 stated and then I am going to 11635 06:37:04,475 --> 06:37:06,376 refer to commissioner gilbert 11636 06:37:06,376 --> 06:37:07,411 for questioning and then we 11637 06:37:07,411 --> 06:37:08,312 will go down the line for other 11638 06:37:08,312 --> 06:37:08,945 question. But I want to give 11639 06:37:08,945 --> 06:37:11,582 you that respect. Let's try 11640 06:37:11,582 --> 06:37:13,884 that again. Repeat the numbers 11641 06:37:13,884 --> 06:37:14,552 and then if someone has 11642 06:37:14,552 --> 06:37:16,530 questions, we will get those 11643 06:37:16,530 --> 06:37:18,530 questions answered. 11644 06:37:19,456 --> 06:37:21,856 >> of the $42 million staff 11645 06:37:23,328 --> 06:37:26,300 was able to get $21 million. 11646 06:37:26,300 --> 06:37:27,310 So approximately 50% that is 11647 06:37:27,310 --> 06:37:30,310 what the director was saying. 11648 06:37:31,302 --> 06:37:31,770 >> excuse me, I do have 11649 06:37:31,770 --> 06:37:33,770 clarification. 11650 06:37:42,414 --> 06:37:43,116 >> mme. Mayor give me one 11651 06:37:43,116 --> 06:37:44,150 second. Let me go around the 11652 06:37:44,150 --> 06:37:44,215 board. It is getting away from 11653 06:37:44,215 --> 06:37:45,500 us. 11654 06:37:45,500 --> 06:37:45,917 >> I have one number to give 11655 06:37:45,917 --> 06:37:46,951 you. She is only talking about 11656 06:37:46,951 --> 06:37:47,652 the parts that are in active 11657 06:37:47,652 --> 06:37:48,519 collection. The rest of the 11658 06:37:48,519 --> 06:37:51,923 money yes of course we are 11659 06:37:51,923 --> 06:37:52,791 still billing. But the active 11660 06:37:52,791 --> 06:37:53,825 collection she is saying when 11661 06:37:53,825 --> 06:37:54,492 they assign a case for active 11662 06:37:54,492 --> 06:37:54,860 collection they are receiving 11663 06:37:54,860 --> 06:37:55,960 50% back. 11664 06:37:55,960 --> 06:37:59,530 >> thank you mme. Mayor. I am 11665 06:37:59,530 --> 06:38:03,730 going to say this like not an 11666 06:38:05,471 --> 06:38:06,138 accountant. This $500 million 11667 06:38:06,138 --> 06:38:07,720 that is owed to us. Out of the 11668 06:38:07,720 --> 06:38:07,939 500 million there is only 11669 06:38:07,939 --> 06:38:10,939 working on around this year 11670 06:38:13,779 --> 06:38:14,647 they're working on $42 million 11671 06:38:14,647 --> 06:38:15,548 of it. Because they do not 11672 06:38:15,548 --> 06:38:16,481 have enough people to work on 11673 06:38:16,481 --> 06:38:18,383 all $500 million at the same 11674 06:38:18,383 --> 06:38:21,983 time. So what they are working 11675 06:38:25,524 --> 06:38:26,358 on is $42 million of the $500 11676 06:38:26,358 --> 06:38:27,393 million. Of the $42 million 11677 06:38:27,393 --> 06:38:30,393 they have assigned, they have 11678 06:38:30,530 --> 06:38:32,530 collected $21 million. Thus 11679 06:38:35,340 --> 06:38:35,835 the 50% of collections recovery 11680 06:38:35,835 --> 06:38:38,235 of what they're actually 11681 06:38:39,338 --> 06:38:40,306 working on when they finish and 11682 06:38:40,306 --> 06:38:41,575 they clear a new file then they 11683 06:38:41,575 --> 06:38:43,777 add another file to it because 11684 06:38:43,777 --> 06:38:46,777 they are working within the 11685 06:38:53,119 --> 06:38:53,787 confines of their personnel. 11686 06:38:53,787 --> 06:38:54,588 And so they do not have 1000 11687 06:38:54,588 --> 06:38:55,288 people to collect the debt. 11688 06:38:55,288 --> 06:38:56,122 They have a very specific 11689 06:38:56,122 --> 06:38:56,790 number. That is how you are 11690 06:38:56,790 --> 06:38:58,910 getting to the 50%. That is 11691 06:38:58,910 --> 06:39:01,910 how you get there without 11692 06:39:03,330 --> 06:39:04,640 sounding like that. 11693 06:39:04,640 --> 06:39:06,640 >> thank you commissioner, 11694 06:39:11,539 --> 06:39:12,206 give me one second. District 5 11695 06:39:12,206 --> 06:39:13,107 you are next. It sounds like 11696 06:39:13,107 --> 06:39:13,741 if you are going at this rate 11697 06:39:13,741 --> 06:39:16,741 they are going to hit $250 11698 06:39:17,978 --> 06:39:18,912 million in collection -- 11699 06:39:18,912 --> 06:39:21,912 collections which is a great 11700 06:39:25,452 --> 06:39:25,686 number at 50%. Commissioner 11701 06:39:25,686 --> 06:39:26,520 lopez? 11702 06:39:26,520 --> 06:39:30,120 >> I guess I would argue if 11703 06:39:30,224 --> 06:39:30,992 you have $525 million that is 11704 06:39:30,992 --> 06:39:33,992 outstanding. And you only have 11705 06:39:35,530 --> 06:39:36,831 so much personnel to do $41 11706 06:39:36,831 --> 06:39:38,165 million right now. Here's the 11707 06:39:38,165 --> 06:39:40,565 question, is the receivable 11708 06:39:47,975 --> 06:39:48,876 amount actually real back 11709 06:39:48,876 --> 06:39:49,811 because if it is 30 years old I 11710 06:39:49,811 --> 06:39:50,444 am going to argue, you're 11711 06:39:50,444 --> 06:39:51,380 probably not going to get it. 11712 06:39:51,380 --> 06:39:52,113 Which is why I asked for the 11713 06:39:52,113 --> 06:39:55,113 aging. As an accountant that 11714 06:40:03,992 --> 06:40:04,893 is what we do. We look at 11715 06:40:04,893 --> 06:40:05,494 receivables and we look at 11716 06:40:05,494 --> 06:40:06,161 aging. We say, that is 11717 06:40:06,161 --> 06:40:06,961 probably now going to be a bad 11718 06:40:06,961 --> 06:40:07,662 debt. You write it off as 11719 06:40:07,662 --> 06:40:08,963 uncollectible. I don't know 11720 06:40:08,963 --> 06:40:09,564 that $525 million is actually 11721 06:40:09,564 --> 06:40:10,265 receivables. I get what 11722 06:40:10,265 --> 06:40:11,467 commissioner gilbert said, it 11723 06:40:11,467 --> 06:40:12,234 is a great clarification of 11724 06:40:12,234 --> 06:40:15,804 what they are doing. Until I 11725 06:40:15,804 --> 06:40:16,538 get an aging, I as an 11726 06:40:16,538 --> 06:40:17,439 accountant can't make sentence 11727 06:40:17,439 --> 06:40:18,306 of this number. And that is 11728 06:40:18,306 --> 06:40:22,506 all I have asked for. Now I 11729 06:40:26,882 --> 06:40:27,850 recognize that we haven't even 11730 06:40:27,850 --> 06:40:28,483 touched jackson and I don't 11731 06:40:28,483 --> 06:40:29,418 know why we haven't touched 11732 06:40:29,418 --> 06:40:30,385 jackson. That is another story 11733 06:40:30,385 --> 06:40:31,540 to be discovered further on 11734 06:40:31,540 --> 06:40:31,988 down the line. Currently, I 11735 06:40:31,988 --> 06:40:32,855 want to know the aging of the 11736 06:40:32,855 --> 06:40:36,455 $525 million and how it came to 11737 06:40:39,195 --> 06:40:40,196 be that only 8% were decided 11738 06:40:40,196 --> 06:40:43,196 that those were the ones. 11739 06:40:44,100 --> 06:40:44,868 Hopefully those are the ones 11740 06:40:44,868 --> 06:40:45,802 that are current that you think 11741 06:40:45,802 --> 06:40:48,802 you might get it. Obviously 11742 06:40:52,142 --> 06:40:53,420 with 50% of success MAY be so. 11743 06:40:53,420 --> 06:40:55,845 I am still not convinced it is 11744 06:40:55,845 --> 06:40:56,779 $525 million. 11745 06:40:56,779 --> 06:40:57,480 >> thank you commissioner. To 11746 06:40:57,480 --> 06:40:59,880 the administration why hasn't 11747 06:41:01,185 --> 06:41:01,952 she received the aging request 11748 06:41:01,952 --> 06:41:05,552 that she made? That is a 11749 06:41:07,891 --> 06:41:08,959 simple question. 11750 06:41:08,959 --> 06:41:09,592 >> through the vice chair. My 11751 06:41:09,592 --> 06:41:10,828 understanding the request was 11752 06:41:10,828 --> 06:41:12,196 just made. If you look at the 11753 06:41:12,196 --> 06:41:15,332 table that is in the memo we 11754 06:41:15,332 --> 06:41:16,660 actually do list the average 11755 06:41:16,660 --> 06:41:19,660 age with the active balances. 11756 06:41:19,602 --> 06:41:20,471 And then we give a percentage 11757 06:41:20,471 --> 06:41:22,306 or proportion of what is 11758 06:41:22,306 --> 06:41:24,706 actually collectible based on 11759 06:41:26,643 --> 06:41:27,878 the benchmarks in the industry. 11760 06:41:27,878 --> 06:41:31,478 And so our team is actually 11761 06:41:31,916 --> 06:41:32,917 exceeding the benchmarks for 11762 06:41:32,917 --> 06:41:36,517 collections of their age. I do 11763 06:41:40,659 --> 06:41:41,626 agree I think commissioner 11764 06:41:41,626 --> 06:41:42,660 gilbert said it very well and 11765 06:41:42,660 --> 06:41:43,327 eloquently. We are working at 11766 06:41:43,327 --> 06:41:44,829 capacity. Greater capacity 11767 06:41:44,829 --> 06:41:46,798 give you greater opportunity. 11768 06:41:46,798 --> 06:41:50,398 However, there is a variable in 11769 06:41:56,307 --> 06:41:57,275 their which is the age and 11770 06:41:57,275 --> 06:41:57,976 likelihood of collecting. Just 11771 06:41:57,976 --> 06:41:59,410 adding people don't necessarily 11772 06:41:59,410 --> 06:42:00,444 result in the quality of that 11773 06:42:00,444 --> 06:42:02,844 product being delivered. And 11774 06:42:05,917 --> 06:42:06,852 so we have maximized our 11775 06:42:06,852 --> 06:42:07,852 potential. We are exceeding 11776 06:42:07,852 --> 06:42:09,154 benchmarks in the area of 11777 06:42:09,154 --> 06:42:11,230 collections. Financially if 11778 06:42:11,230 --> 06:42:11,724 there were more resources 11779 06:42:11,724 --> 06:42:14,724 available at an earlier point 11780 06:42:16,327 --> 06:42:17,229 in time than some of these 11781 06:42:17,229 --> 06:42:18,300 things MAY not get to age. To 11782 06:42:18,300 --> 06:42:20,198 the point of jackson, jackson 11783 06:42:20,198 --> 06:42:23,798 actually comes to us as their 11784 06:42:24,870 --> 06:42:25,904 last resort. So they try to do 11785 06:42:25,904 --> 06:42:28,373 everything they can to collect 11786 06:42:28,373 --> 06:42:30,809 the debt. And then as opposed 11787 06:42:30,809 --> 06:42:32,678 to just saying nevermind it is 11788 06:42:32,678 --> 06:42:35,314 bad debt, they say can your 11789 06:42:35,314 --> 06:42:37,490 team take one last try? As of 11790 06:42:37,490 --> 06:42:39,985 today I believe we have 11791 06:42:39,985 --> 06:42:42,385 collected about $2 million for 11792 06:42:44,157 --> 06:42:45,580 jackson. And so that is bad 11793 06:42:45,580 --> 06:42:48,580 debt that they probably would 11794 06:42:49,795 --> 06:42:50,697 not have gotten because they 11795 06:42:50,697 --> 06:42:51,598 had exhausted their other 11796 06:42:51,598 --> 06:42:52,365 resources and have seen the 11797 06:42:52,365 --> 06:42:55,965 capacity of our team to collect 11798 06:42:59,872 --> 06:43:00,607 with compassion within our 11799 06:43:00,607 --> 06:43:01,642 values and to help families who 11800 06:43:01,642 --> 06:43:02,409 might be out of compliance or 11801 06:43:02,409 --> 06:43:05,545 in a bad spot to find 11802 06:43:05,545 --> 06:43:06,179 resources. That is the 11803 06:43:06,179 --> 06:43:06,680 difference between us and a 11804 06:43:06,680 --> 06:43:07,380 collection agency. 11805 06:43:07,380 --> 06:43:08,470 >> thank you so much. 11806 06:43:08,470 --> 06:43:10,470 Commissioner gonzales? 11807 06:43:10,718 --> 06:43:13,718 >> thank you so much MR. 11808 06:43:14,588 --> 06:43:18,291 Chair. I will -- I think we 11809 06:43:18,291 --> 06:43:19,159 should probably put forward a 11810 06:43:19,159 --> 06:43:22,159 motion to deem her and 11811 06:43:22,329 --> 06:43:23,264 commissioner gilbert our 11812 06:43:23,264 --> 06:43:25,264 official accounting 11813 06:43:25,532 --> 06:43:27,532 translators. That was 11814 06:43:29,269 --> 06:43:30,672 fantastic. However, to 11815 06:43:30,672 --> 06:43:32,672 commissioner lopez and 11816 06:43:37,545 --> 06:43:38,445 commissioner regalado's point 11817 06:43:38,445 --> 06:43:42,645 this is what we are trying to 11818 06:43:44,485 --> 06:43:45,219 get to. To the chief point 11819 06:43:45,219 --> 06:43:46,255 there is some debt that perhaps 11820 06:43:46,255 --> 06:43:47,870 can be deemed uncollectible. 11821 06:43:47,870 --> 06:43:50,870 The director made a good 11822 06:43:51,326 --> 06:43:51,960 analysis because I have seen 11823 06:43:51,960 --> 06:43:52,794 debt collection in the past 11824 06:43:52,794 --> 06:43:54,896 through the legal field. 11825 06:43:54,896 --> 06:43:55,730 Sometimes you can only sell it 11826 06:43:55,730 --> 06:43:56,764 on pennies to the dollar. 11827 06:43:56,764 --> 06:44:00,364 Perhaps an analysis can be made 11828 06:44:01,690 --> 06:44:01,769 to that debt that we deem 11829 06:44:01,769 --> 06:44:04,169 uncollectible. We don't have 11830 06:44:05,841 --> 06:44:06,875 to expend resources on people 11831 06:44:06,875 --> 06:44:07,942 that could be collecting 11832 06:44:07,942 --> 06:44:10,942 collectible debt and rather we 11833 06:44:17,285 --> 06:44:18,190 might be able to commissioner 11834 06:44:18,190 --> 06:44:18,987 regalado's point to sell the 11835 06:44:18,987 --> 06:44:19,821 collectible that even if it is 11836 06:44:19,821 --> 06:44:22,257 pennies on the dollar. Because 11837 06:44:22,257 --> 06:44:22,992 we are going to get something. 11838 06:44:22,992 --> 06:44:24,260 The new debt that is coming in 11839 06:44:24,260 --> 06:44:27,260 if we are getting a 50% 11840 06:44:28,960 --> 06:44:30,198 turnaround on that then we need 11841 06:44:30,198 --> 06:44:33,798 to expand all resources on the 11842 06:44:34,937 --> 06:44:37,740 new debt analyzed the debt and 11843 06:44:37,740 --> 06:44:41,940 sell that. I do not want to 11844 06:44:43,179 --> 06:44:44,130 speak for commissioner lopez 11845 06:44:44,130 --> 06:44:45,470 but that is why we are trying 11846 06:44:45,470 --> 06:44:46,415 to go with this. It would be a 11847 06:44:46,415 --> 06:44:48,484 great idea to get something. 11848 06:44:48,484 --> 06:44:50,884 Thank you MR. Chair. 11849 06:44:55,425 --> 06:44:56,392 >> thank you. 11850 06:44:56,392 --> 06:44:57,627 >> my original point I was 11851 06:44:57,627 --> 06:44:58,528 going to make on the debt is 11852 06:44:58,528 --> 06:45:02,728 just a couple of things to the 11853 06:45:04,367 --> 06:45:05,302 folks. We can do on this body 11854 06:45:05,302 --> 06:45:08,902 and we vote. Some of the 11855 06:45:13,510 --> 06:45:14,511 statuses on what people 11856 06:45:14,511 --> 06:45:15,211 actually need. When they use 11857 06:45:15,211 --> 06:45:16,113 humane collection, what we are 11858 06:45:16,113 --> 06:45:17,747 saying that some of our debt 11859 06:45:17,747 --> 06:45:18,548 like people who water gets 11860 06:45:18,548 --> 06:45:22,148 turned off for a lack of 11861 06:45:23,530 --> 06:45:23,721 payment. People need water to 11862 06:45:23,721 --> 06:45:26,121 live. Sometimes people don't 11863 06:45:28,910 --> 06:45:30,600 have money to pay for water. 11864 06:45:30,600 --> 06:45:34,260 And so I think that let's just 11865 06:45:35,232 --> 06:45:36,133 be mindful we go forward 11866 06:45:36,133 --> 06:45:38,533 assigning these things to 11867 06:45:38,902 --> 06:45:39,903 collection agencies. That we 11868 06:45:39,903 --> 06:45:41,706 are collecting some of these 11869 06:45:41,706 --> 06:45:44,106 collections are against our 11870 06:45:44,909 --> 06:45:47,909 residents. For stuff that they 11871 06:45:49,120 --> 06:45:52,120 actually need and they might 11872 06:45:52,830 --> 06:45:55,720 not be able to pay for by no 11873 06:45:55,720 --> 06:45:56,654 fault of their own. I just 11874 06:45:56,654 --> 06:46:00,659 want us to be mindful of that. 11875 06:46:00,659 --> 06:46:03,895 And also we got on the road of 11876 06:46:03,895 --> 06:46:05,496 bringing someone to collect on 11877 06:46:05,496 --> 06:46:09,960 that, I would prefer them not 11878 06:46:09,500 --> 06:46:10,401 collect or us not assigned gets 11879 06:46:10,401 --> 06:46:14,601 to them where we have a lever 11880 06:46:18,309 --> 06:46:19,244 to push. What is a good -- 11881 06:46:19,244 --> 06:46:19,911 what is a good example. 11882 06:46:19,911 --> 06:46:20,746 Ultimately if you are still 11883 06:46:20,746 --> 06:46:21,413 living in a place we have 11884 06:46:21,413 --> 06:46:22,248 something we can do to you to 11885 06:46:22,248 --> 06:46:24,149 actually compel you to pay. 11886 06:46:24,149 --> 06:46:25,500 That debt is a lot more 11887 06:46:25,500 --> 06:46:27,450 recoverable. Let's not sell 11888 06:46:32,191 --> 06:46:32,891 that or sign that out to a debt 11889 06:46:32,891 --> 06:46:33,792 collection agency. I just want 11890 06:46:33,792 --> 06:46:37,696 us to be careful because we do 11891 06:46:37,696 --> 06:46:38,397 need money but remember these 11892 06:46:38,397 --> 06:46:39,431 debts a lot of them could be 11893 06:46:39,431 --> 06:46:42,468 against a group of people who 11894 06:46:42,468 --> 06:46:44,637 we all acknowledge don't have a 11895 06:46:44,637 --> 06:46:46,505 lot of money to give. 11896 06:46:46,505 --> 06:46:48,505 >> thank you. Commissioner 11897 06:46:51,770 --> 06:46:52,450 regalado? 11898 06:46:52,450 --> 06:46:52,778 >> I was going to say almost 11899 06:46:52,778 --> 06:46:53,780 exactly that. The only thing i 11900 06:46:53,780 --> 06:46:57,784 was going to add is that unlike 11901 06:46:57,784 --> 06:46:58,684 debt collectors and some of 11902 06:46:58,684 --> 06:46:59,819 these debts, we have the 11903 06:46:59,819 --> 06:47:02,219 opportunity to collect more 11904 06:47:03,623 --> 06:47:04,524 even though it is over a long 11905 06:47:04,524 --> 06:47:05,224 period time when the individual 11906 06:47:05,224 --> 06:47:08,824 comes back to open an account 11907 06:47:13,933 --> 06:47:14,534 to get a permit to have service 11908 06:47:14,534 --> 06:47:15,535 at jackson. That is a 11909 06:47:15,535 --> 06:47:16,436 different situation if we sell 11910 06:47:16,436 --> 06:47:20,360 it and get pennies on the 11911 06:47:23,277 --> 06:47:24,177 dollar. It does not harm us to 11912 06:47:24,177 --> 06:47:24,878 hold that debt for a long 11913 06:47:24,878 --> 06:47:29,490 period of time if what we are 11914 06:47:29,490 --> 06:47:30,500 going to receive is so much 11915 06:47:30,500 --> 06:47:31,118 larger than the sale minus the 11916 06:47:31,118 --> 06:47:32,530 profit that a company is going 11917 06:47:32,530 --> 06:47:34,288 to make. I understand how on 11918 06:47:34,288 --> 06:47:34,955 paper it MAY look very 11919 06:47:34,955 --> 06:47:37,355 attractive but you should 11920 06:47:48,802 --> 06:47:49,870 consider that as a county we 11921 06:47:49,870 --> 06:47:50,471 actually win in some cases by 11922 06:47:50,471 --> 06:47:51,406 holding it longer. Because 11923 06:47:51,406 --> 06:47:52,240 when they come in, they have to 11924 06:47:52,240 --> 06:47:52,907 pay all of it in order to 11925 06:47:52,907 --> 06:47:53,808 continue the process with us. 11926 06:47:53,808 --> 06:47:54,809 I think some of that have been 11927 06:47:54,809 --> 06:47:57,809 lost in the translation here. 11928 06:48:01,283 --> 06:48:02,117 And to commissioner gilbert 11929 06:48:02,117 --> 06:48:02,684 point these are human beings 11930 06:48:02,684 --> 06:48:03,718 and these services are 11931 06:48:03,718 --> 06:48:04,619 necessary services. That being 11932 06:48:04,619 --> 06:48:07,619 said I think the administration 11933 06:48:07,789 --> 06:48:10,358 has clearly heard of what the 11934 06:48:10,358 --> 06:48:13,358 board believes. What I would 11935 06:48:21,704 --> 06:48:22,704 recommend is an exercise for 11936 06:48:22,704 --> 06:48:23,372 the establishment of what is 11937 06:48:23,372 --> 06:48:24,206 uncollectible debt? That is 11938 06:48:24,206 --> 06:48:24,973 really what we are talking 11939 06:48:24,973 --> 06:48:25,841 about. Separate and apart from 11940 06:48:25,841 --> 06:48:26,808 the sale and what you MAY or 11941 06:48:26,808 --> 06:48:27,742 MAY not think is the value of 11942 06:48:27,742 --> 06:48:28,743 the debt. Should we have a 11943 06:48:28,743 --> 06:48:32,343 vehicle where at some point we 11944 06:48:33,582 --> 06:48:34,583 determine it uncollectible and 11945 06:48:34,583 --> 06:48:35,584 then it can go somewhere. As 11946 06:48:35,584 --> 06:48:38,487 opposed to us making that 11947 06:48:38,487 --> 06:48:39,487 determination without the data. 11948 06:48:39,487 --> 06:48:41,256 I would recommend that the 11949 06:48:41,256 --> 06:48:44,256 administration go back and kind 11950 06:48:47,429 --> 06:48:48,197 of bring us some parameters for 11951 06:48:48,197 --> 06:48:49,231 a determination of 11952 06:48:49,231 --> 06:48:51,200 uncollectible. That will make 11953 06:48:51,200 --> 06:48:52,101 everyone feel a lot better and 11954 06:48:52,101 --> 06:48:52,501 address some of the concerns. 11955 06:48:52,501 --> 06:48:54,501 Thank you. 11956 06:48:56,380 --> 06:48:58,380 >> commissioner bermudez? 11957 06:49:01,144 --> 06:49:02,112 >> I will be brief. I agree 11958 06:49:02,112 --> 06:49:02,778 with commissioner lopez that 11959 06:49:02,778 --> 06:49:04,514 this huge debt is obviously 11960 06:49:04,514 --> 06:49:07,514 something and I agree with 11961 06:49:10,419 --> 06:49:11,455 commissioner gilbert that the 11962 06:49:11,455 --> 06:49:12,189 administration statement of 11963 06:49:12,189 --> 06:49:14,589 collecting with compassion is 11964 06:49:14,791 --> 06:49:16,593 fair. There's nothing wrong 11965 06:49:16,593 --> 06:49:17,360 with combining two things. The 11966 06:49:17,360 --> 06:49:19,495 work we have from the 11967 06:49:19,495 --> 06:49:21,895 department MAY be some 11968 06:49:23,500 --> 06:49:25,500 collection getting something 11969 06:49:27,470 --> 06:49:28,271 back 10% of something is better 11970 06:49:28,271 --> 06:49:29,500 than 0%. I don't think that 11971 06:49:29,500 --> 06:49:31,709 every collection agency and I 11972 06:49:31,709 --> 06:49:33,343 don't have one and I'm not 11973 06:49:33,343 --> 06:49:36,343 involved in one necessarily is 11974 06:49:38,682 --> 06:49:39,716 not compassionate. I just 11975 06:49:39,716 --> 06:49:40,718 think there's nothing wrong I 11976 06:49:40,718 --> 06:49:41,752 just want administration to 11977 06:49:41,752 --> 06:49:42,753 know there's nothing wrong with 11978 06:49:42,753 --> 06:49:46,353 a mix between one and the 11979 06:49:48,292 --> 06:49:49,226 other. I think that is what 11980 06:49:49,226 --> 06:49:50,628 some of my colleagues was 11981 06:49:50,628 --> 06:49:51,462 saying. Let's look at what we 11982 06:49:51,462 --> 06:49:53,331 can get back even if we don't 11983 06:49:53,331 --> 06:49:56,331 have to add additional staff. 11984 06:49:57,234 --> 06:49:58,202 Then it will be a cost. That 11985 06:49:58,202 --> 06:50:01,172 is it and that is all I have to 11986 06:50:01,172 --> 06:50:05,372 say. I hope we can and that 11987 06:50:06,210 --> 06:50:06,911 doesn't mean we still can't be 11988 06:50:06,911 --> 06:50:07,745 compassionate even if it is 11989 06:50:07,745 --> 06:50:10,145 outsourced to somebody else. 11990 06:50:17,688 --> 06:50:18,622 >> thank you commissioner. 11991 06:50:18,622 --> 06:50:19,290 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. 11992 06:50:19,290 --> 06:50:20,224 Thank you chief for pointing 11993 06:50:20,224 --> 06:50:21,159 out the chart. I will give you 11994 06:50:21,159 --> 06:50:21,893 a perfect example. There are 11995 06:50:21,893 --> 06:50:24,293 10 accounts under public works. 11996 06:50:24,296 --> 06:50:27,296 It totals $64 million and it 11997 06:50:27,298 --> 06:50:30,298 has been 30 years. It is 10 11998 06:50:30,335 --> 06:50:33,335 accounts. I'm pretty sure that 11999 06:50:34,139 --> 06:50:34,840 we can probably say I'm should 12000 06:50:34,840 --> 06:50:36,475 administration can tell us the 12001 06:50:36,475 --> 06:50:40,750 number of hours they have spent 12002 06:50:42,948 --> 06:50:43,883 trying to collect them over the 12003 06:50:43,883 --> 06:50:44,550 30 years? This is a perfect 12004 06:50:44,550 --> 06:50:45,383 example of the kind of thing 12005 06:50:45,383 --> 06:50:46,385 you would send to a third 12006 06:50:46,385 --> 06:50:47,520 party. Because either they get 12007 06:50:47,520 --> 06:50:50,289 pennies to the dollar and we 12008 06:50:50,289 --> 06:50:53,289 get something because so far 10 12009 06:50:53,459 --> 06:50:54,326 accounts have been outstanding 12010 06:50:54,326 --> 06:50:56,610 to the tune of $64 million for 12011 06:50:56,610 --> 06:50:58,130 30 years. That is only point I 12012 06:50:58,130 --> 06:51:01,201 was trying to make as an 12013 06:51:01,201 --> 06:51:02,568 accountant. That you have to 12014 06:51:02,568 --> 06:51:06,168 make a decision whether or not 12015 06:51:10,911 --> 06:51:11,912 after all of your efforts for 12016 06:51:11,912 --> 06:51:12,879 30 years you have not been able 12017 06:51:12,879 --> 06:51:13,747 to collect it. Maybe somebody 12018 06:51:13,747 --> 06:51:14,514 can get his pennies on the 12019 06:51:14,514 --> 06:51:15,315 dollar. That is what you do. 12020 06:51:15,315 --> 06:51:16,616 That doesn't mean you're not 12021 06:51:16,616 --> 06:51:18,616 being compassionate. That 12022 06:51:20,453 --> 06:51:21,870 means that for 30 years 10 12023 06:51:21,870 --> 06:51:24,870 accounts have decided not to 12024 06:51:25,325 --> 06:51:26,293 pay us. And if you take it to 12025 06:51:26,293 --> 06:51:26,893 a third party and they can't 12026 06:51:26,893 --> 06:51:30,493 collect any of it, it is 12027 06:51:31,198 --> 06:51:31,932 written off as a bad debt. 12028 06:51:31,932 --> 06:51:32,899 Although I would tell you that 12029 06:51:32,899 --> 06:51:35,402 no accountant would allow you 12030 06:51:35,402 --> 06:51:36,360 to carry this receivable on 12031 06:51:36,360 --> 06:51:38,436 their books for 30 years. 12032 06:51:41,909 --> 06:51:42,843 There is not an accounting -- 12033 06:51:42,843 --> 06:51:43,477 accountant that would allow 12034 06:51:43,477 --> 06:51:44,945 that. I'm looking at the next 12035 06:51:44,945 --> 06:51:48,545 level lx accounts in our er 12036 06:51:55,122 --> 06:51:55,789 totaling 15 million has been 12037 06:51:55,789 --> 06:51:56,623 outstanding for 21 years. 12038 06:51:56,623 --> 06:51:57,291 Again, if you have tried to 12039 06:51:57,291 --> 06:52:00,891 collect it and you have done 12040 06:52:05,366 --> 06:52:06,234 all you could for 21 years 12041 06:52:06,234 --> 06:52:07,301 there are 60 accounts that 12042 06:52:07,301 --> 06:52:07,969 someone can get his pennies to 12043 06:52:07,969 --> 06:52:08,869 the dollar. That is only point 12044 06:52:08,869 --> 06:52:09,737 I was trying to make. Because 12045 06:52:09,737 --> 06:52:12,737 the aging tells the story. 12046 06:52:16,430 --> 06:52:16,477 That alone should tell us 12047 06:52:16,477 --> 06:52:17,478 something. 12048 06:52:17,478 --> 06:52:18,112 >> thank you commissioner. Do 12049 06:52:18,112 --> 06:52:22,312 we have a motion to move this 12050 06:52:23,618 --> 06:52:24,619 report? One moment. 12051 06:52:24,619 --> 06:52:26,821 >> thank you to my colleagues 12052 06:52:26,821 --> 06:52:29,821 on the conversations. What are 12053 06:52:30,659 --> 06:52:31,426 we doing? Are we going to get 12054 06:52:31,426 --> 06:52:33,261 another report just to be clear 12055 06:52:33,261 --> 06:52:33,896 to the administration are we 12056 06:52:33,896 --> 06:52:36,664 going to get a subsequent 12057 06:52:36,664 --> 06:52:38,664 report? 12058 06:52:41,437 --> 06:52:42,438 >> we will provide the aging 12059 06:52:42,438 --> 06:52:45,438 report as requested. I think 12060 06:52:50,880 --> 06:52:52,114 we will clarifying some of this 12061 06:52:52,114 --> 06:52:52,715 discussion because clearly when 12062 06:52:52,715 --> 06:52:53,416 it was presented it wasn't 12063 06:52:53,416 --> 06:52:54,316 clear as it could have been. 12064 06:52:54,316 --> 06:52:55,351 We want make sure we have that 12065 06:52:55,351 --> 06:52:56,252 correct information. We will 12066 06:52:56,252 --> 06:52:56,785 give you the aging information 12067 06:52:56,785 --> 06:52:57,419 and will also make a 12068 06:52:57,419 --> 06:53:00,419 recommendation as to how long 12069 06:53:03,250 --> 06:53:03,926 we should carry that debt 12070 06:53:03,926 --> 06:53:06,926 versus selling it for pennies 12071 06:53:07,129 --> 06:53:08,197 on the dollar. Absolutely. 12072 06:53:08,197 --> 06:53:09,765 >> the conversations in the 12073 06:53:09,765 --> 06:53:10,767 comments that have been made 12074 06:53:10,767 --> 06:53:12,635 these are the conversations we 12075 06:53:12,635 --> 06:53:16,139 have to make. Because as we 12076 06:53:16,139 --> 06:53:19,139 enter budget season number of 12077 06:53:25,382 --> 06:53:26,115 us have communicated our 12078 06:53:26,115 --> 06:53:26,949 intentioned but we can keep 12079 06:53:26,949 --> 06:53:27,951 saying we need to make tough 12080 06:53:27,951 --> 06:53:28,618 decisions while simultaneously 12081 06:53:28,618 --> 06:53:29,552 saying that we are not willing 12082 06:53:29,552 --> 06:53:30,954 to collect on $2.5 billion 12083 06:53:30,954 --> 06:53:33,954 worth of debt. Something has 12084 06:53:35,392 --> 06:53:36,226 to give at some point. I 12085 06:53:36,226 --> 06:53:39,226 believe there is a universe 12086 06:53:40,330 --> 06:53:41,310 where we can use an agency that 12087 06:53:41,310 --> 06:53:43,431 engages with the compassion 12088 06:53:43,734 --> 06:53:47,334 that we require. That we can 12089 06:53:52,143 --> 06:53:52,943 collect as much of this money 12090 06:53:52,943 --> 06:53:53,644 in addition to what the 12091 06:53:53,644 --> 06:53:54,678 department is doing and is 12092 06:53:54,678 --> 06:53:55,312 doing a great job. I'm looking 12093 06:53:55,312 --> 06:53:56,146 to complement not to replace. 12094 06:53:56,146 --> 06:53:56,847 I want to make a very very 12095 06:53:56,847 --> 06:53:57,881 clear. If your capacity is 12096 06:53:57,881 --> 06:53:58,748 only giving you the ability to 12097 06:53:58,748 --> 06:54:02,348 work on $40 million at a time 12098 06:54:05,189 --> 06:54:06,223 when we have $2.5 billion 12099 06:54:06,223 --> 06:54:06,823 clearly help is necessary. And 12100 06:54:06,823 --> 06:54:07,691 help is necessary in that 12101 06:54:07,691 --> 06:54:10,910 department help is necessary 12102 06:54:14,865 --> 06:54:15,566 without budget issues. I'm 12103 06:54:15,566 --> 06:54:16,534 looking forward to with the 12104 06:54:16,534 --> 06:54:17,568 subsequent report and hopefully 12105 06:54:17,568 --> 06:54:20,568 we can get greater percentages 12106 06:54:22,574 --> 06:54:23,341 of the dollars collected. 12107 06:54:23,341 --> 06:54:24,308 >> thank you MR. Chair. Just 12108 06:54:24,308 --> 06:54:25,243 to add on what everybody said, 12109 06:54:25,243 --> 06:54:26,678 I know you are going to include 12110 06:54:26,678 --> 06:54:27,679 the aging and the memo and the 12111 06:54:27,679 --> 06:54:28,513 report that is coming back. 12112 06:54:28,513 --> 06:54:29,146 Can we get the categories of 12113 06:54:29,146 --> 06:54:31,850 the type of debt? And the 12114 06:54:31,850 --> 06:54:32,350 likelihood of collection. I 12115 06:54:32,350 --> 06:54:35,350 know that is in your 12116 06:54:35,420 --> 06:54:36,221 recommendation. Historically, 12117 06:54:36,221 --> 06:54:37,788 what have you seen that you 12118 06:54:37,788 --> 06:54:39,457 have been able to collect? 12119 06:54:39,457 --> 06:54:43,570 Over the last 20 or 30 years if 12120 06:54:43,295 --> 06:54:44,229 we have that data? If we could 12121 06:54:44,229 --> 06:54:48,429 also get the type of debt that 12122 06:54:49,401 --> 06:54:50,340 would be great? 12123 06:54:50,340 --> 06:54:50,603 >> yes. 12124 06:54:50,603 --> 06:54:51,137 >> okay, thank you. 12125 06:54:51,137 --> 06:54:52,400 Commissioner gonzales? 12126 06:54:52,400 --> 06:54:53,806 >> I would like to piggyback 12127 06:54:53,806 --> 06:54:56,806 of what the commissioner said. 12128 06:54:58,844 --> 06:54:59,544 I do appreciate the mayor's 12129 06:54:59,544 --> 06:55:00,312 comments. They are diligently 12130 06:55:00,312 --> 06:55:01,470 taking notes on this 12131 06:55:01,470 --> 06:55:03,447 conversation but perhaps it 12132 06:55:04,250 --> 06:55:07,119 would be good for the county 12133 06:55:07,119 --> 06:55:10,119 attorney's office to give us 12134 06:55:12,558 --> 06:55:13,926 more of a narrow instruction so 12135 06:55:13,926 --> 06:55:17,526 that there is no confusion. By 12136 06:55:19,310 --> 06:55:19,765 the time the administration 12137 06:55:19,765 --> 06:55:20,734 comes back with a report, they 12138 06:55:20,734 --> 06:55:24,334 are not left with coming up 12139 06:55:26,739 --> 06:55:27,640 short. I love the fact that 12140 06:55:27,640 --> 06:55:28,441 you said we should have 12141 06:55:28,441 --> 06:55:29,408 categories. I definitely think 12142 06:55:29,408 --> 06:55:31,845 we should have categories. I 12143 06:55:31,845 --> 06:55:32,846 want to hear from commissioner 12144 06:55:32,846 --> 06:55:33,847 lopez and commissioner cohen 12145 06:55:33,847 --> 06:55:34,581 higgins. We definitely want 12146 06:55:34,581 --> 06:55:37,581 categories in one identify how 12147 06:55:38,551 --> 06:55:39,352 long the debt has been 12148 06:55:39,352 --> 06:55:41,752 uncollected? Perhaps it would 12149 06:55:44,157 --> 06:55:47,627 be a good idea to include how 12150 06:55:47,627 --> 06:55:50,598 many attempts have been made so 12151 06:55:50,598 --> 06:55:54,134 that we can then decide hey, we 12152 06:55:54,134 --> 06:55:55,350 are spending x amount of money 12153 06:55:55,350 --> 06:55:57,638 and this is where we should 12154 06:55:57,638 --> 06:55:59,940 stop. I would like to get the 12155 06:55:59,940 --> 06:56:01,940 administration's recommendation 12156 06:56:02,844 --> 06:56:03,844 on debt they deem this is 12157 06:56:03,844 --> 06:56:06,244 uncollectible. This is not 12158 06:56:06,814 --> 06:56:07,681 something that we are probably 12159 06:56:07,681 --> 06:56:10,184 ever going to collect. So if 12160 06:56:10,184 --> 06:56:10,785 anything this is debt that you 12161 06:56:10,785 --> 06:56:12,785 should probably consider 12162 06:56:19,427 --> 06:56:20,294 selling. Those are my two 12163 06:56:20,294 --> 06:56:20,995 cents. I don't know if my 12164 06:56:20,995 --> 06:56:21,930 colleagues want to add anything 12165 06:56:21,930 --> 06:56:22,797 else? That way we can narrow 12166 06:56:22,797 --> 06:56:23,498 the scope of what is going to 12167 06:56:23,498 --> 06:56:24,299 come back to us and we can all 12168 06:56:24,299 --> 06:56:27,299 be happy with the results. 12169 06:56:32,307 --> 06:56:33,241 >> thank you commissioner. It 12170 06:56:33,241 --> 06:56:33,975 has been moved by commissioner 12171 06:56:33,975 --> 06:56:34,409 lopez all in favor moving the 12172 06:56:34,409 --> 06:56:34,943 report? 12173 06:56:34,943 --> 06:56:35,743 >> can we get the 12174 06:56:35,743 --> 06:56:36,100 clarification before we vote 12175 06:56:36,100 --> 06:56:37,178 though? 12176 06:56:37,178 --> 06:56:38,312 >> give me one second. 12177 06:56:38,312 --> 06:56:40,215 Commissioner gonzales asked for 12178 06:56:40,215 --> 06:56:42,615 clarification. Were they taken 12179 06:56:43,986 --> 06:56:45,520 down? 12180 06:56:45,520 --> 06:56:47,880 >> thank you. We have 12181 06:56:47,880 --> 06:56:48,456 summarized that information in 12182 06:56:48,456 --> 06:56:52,656 the report that you have but we 12183 06:56:54,429 --> 06:56:55,130 will also detail and we are 12184 06:56:55,130 --> 06:56:58,130 absolutely in agreement that we 12185 06:57:01,237 --> 06:57:02,138 should look at the debt and 12186 06:57:02,138 --> 06:57:03,105 getting it into the market. We 12187 06:57:03,105 --> 06:57:03,672 also believe that the debt that 12188 06:57:03,672 --> 06:57:06,740 is not marketable, we can 12189 06:57:06,740 --> 06:57:09,740 continue what we are doing. 12190 06:57:09,378 --> 06:57:10,111 Which is being the last mile 12191 06:57:10,111 --> 06:57:13,711 and trying to collect it. We 12192 06:57:14,850 --> 06:57:15,551 are exceptionally good at 12193 06:57:15,551 --> 06:57:16,485 collecting the last mile debts 12194 06:57:16,485 --> 06:57:18,254 that no one else wants. But we 12195 06:57:18,254 --> 06:57:19,221 absolutely agree with the 12196 06:57:19,221 --> 06:57:21,621 sponsoring commissioner of the 12197 06:57:23,590 --> 06:57:25,461 item yourself that the debt 12198 06:57:25,461 --> 06:57:26,395 that somebody can do a better 12199 06:57:26,395 --> 06:57:29,995 job than as we should explore 12200 06:57:30,299 --> 06:57:31,234 that. 12201 06:57:31,234 --> 06:57:32,235 >> chief, I would like to add 12202 06:57:32,235 --> 06:57:34,137 because I have seen debt 12203 06:57:34,137 --> 06:57:35,171 collection through the legal 12204 06:57:35,171 --> 06:57:36,139 field in the past. There some 12205 06:57:36,139 --> 06:57:38,539 third-party companies that will 12206 06:57:38,641 --> 06:57:41,410 probably purchase a marketable 12207 06:57:44,414 --> 06:57:45,282 debt just to be able to say 12208 06:57:45,282 --> 06:57:46,160 that they are collecting debt 12209 06:57:46,160 --> 06:57:46,850 from miami-dade county. I'm 12210 06:57:46,850 --> 06:57:47,830 just going to throw that out 12211 06:57:47,830 --> 06:57:48,510 there. 12212 06:57:48,510 --> 06:57:49,285 >> thank you commissioner. 12213 06:57:49,285 --> 06:57:51,422 Did that satisfy your request? 12214 06:57:51,422 --> 06:57:55,622 All in favor of the item? All 12215 06:58:02,533 --> 06:58:02,767 against? Item passes. Next up 12216 06:58:02,767 --> 06:58:03,734 2b 12. 12217 06:58:03,734 --> 06:58:04,568 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. 12218 06:58:04,568 --> 06:58:05,969 This has been the item that I 12219 06:58:05,969 --> 06:58:09,472 have been following since I was 12220 06:58:09,472 --> 06:58:11,976 in the house. As you all know 12221 06:58:11,976 --> 06:58:12,877 we appropriate funds to begin 12222 06:58:12,877 --> 06:58:15,877 in the fiscal year beginning 12223 06:58:18,115 --> 06:58:18,749 JULY 1. I am always in awe 12224 06:58:18,749 --> 06:58:20,785 over the fact that we don't 12225 06:58:20,785 --> 06:58:21,752 sign contracts for six months 12226 06:58:21,752 --> 06:58:24,752 with the recipient of funds. 12227 06:58:25,923 --> 06:58:27,391 So now I am finding this item 12228 06:58:27,391 --> 06:58:30,391 that we still have outstanding 12229 06:58:32,970 --> 06:58:33,831 items from 2024 legislative 12230 06:58:33,831 --> 06:58:35,600 session as well as 2025. I 12231 06:58:35,600 --> 06:58:39,800 guess I would like to know, I 12232 06:58:41,440 --> 06:58:42,240 want to be helpful. In making 12233 06:58:42,240 --> 06:58:42,874 sure the monies that are 12234 06:58:42,874 --> 06:58:43,809 appropriated to the county 12235 06:58:43,809 --> 06:58:45,610 actually come to the county so 12236 06:58:45,610 --> 06:58:48,947 that we can do the work that we 12237 06:58:48,947 --> 06:58:50,281 have requested the legislature 12238 06:58:50,281 --> 06:58:51,716 to fund it. I am beginning to 12239 06:58:51,716 --> 06:58:54,253 wonder how much of this is our 12240 06:58:54,253 --> 06:58:57,253 fault? Because when I talked 12241 06:58:57,823 --> 06:58:58,423 to state agencies they will say 12242 06:58:58,423 --> 06:58:59,291 they didn't provide the right 12243 06:58:59,291 --> 06:59:00,792 information. Other times it is 12244 06:59:00,792 --> 06:59:03,792 because the state agency hasn't 12245 06:59:04,864 --> 06:59:05,597 done its job in getting the 12246 06:59:05,597 --> 06:59:08,597 contracts to the recipient in 12247 06:59:11,104 --> 06:59:11,737 time. I just want to make sure 12248 06:59:11,737 --> 06:59:15,410 that we don't wait to bring 12249 06:59:15,410 --> 06:59:15,708 these things to the commission. 12250 06:59:15,708 --> 06:59:16,308 if there is an item for 12251 06:59:16,308 --> 06:59:18,708 instance there has been 12252 06:59:19,110 --> 06:59:21,110 appropriations done in 2026 12253 06:59:26,185 --> 06:59:27,253 session. We are now in JULY. 12254 06:59:27,253 --> 06:59:28,870 So all of those appropriations 12255 06:59:28,870 --> 06:59:30,489 took effect on JULY 1. I would 12256 06:59:30,489 --> 06:59:31,224 like to get a report because I 12257 06:59:31,224 --> 06:59:34,224 am already seeing this report. 12258 06:59:36,996 --> 06:59:37,964 Which brings me great 12259 06:59:37,964 --> 06:59:38,664 discomfort. Because we are 12260 06:59:38,664 --> 06:59:39,732 expecting to get those funds 12261 06:59:39,732 --> 06:59:40,466 and somehow the state agency 12262 06:59:40,466 --> 06:59:41,134 isn't doing its job or we are 12263 06:59:41,134 --> 06:59:45,370 not doing our job. I do not 12264 06:59:45,370 --> 06:59:46,600 want to look back although I am 12265 06:59:46,600 --> 06:59:46,739 going to take this to the 12266 06:59:46,739 --> 06:59:47,373 appropriations staff in the 12267 06:59:47,373 --> 06:59:50,373 house. And tell them exactly 12268 06:59:50,443 --> 06:59:51,312 so I would like lots of detail 12269 06:59:51,312 --> 06:59:52,579 here so I can tell the 12270 06:59:52,579 --> 06:59:54,979 appropriations staff this is 12271 07:00:03,791 --> 07:00:04,425 not yet been, it was 12272 07:00:04,425 --> 07:00:05,358 appropriated but it has not 12273 07:00:05,358 --> 07:00:06,326 been contractual with the 12274 07:00:06,326 --> 07:00:07,600 county. So sometimes they can 12275 07:00:07,600 --> 07:00:08,280 help move the agency along if 12276 07:00:08,280 --> 07:00:08,929 it is the agency's problem. In 12277 07:00:08,929 --> 07:00:12,529 the future I would like very 12278 07:00:18,638 --> 07:00:19,406 much to know of all of our 12279 07:00:19,406 --> 07:00:20,307 appropriations currently. It 12280 07:00:20,307 --> 07:00:21,275 took place on JULY 1, how long 12281 07:00:21,275 --> 07:00:21,909 is it taking? Let's not wait 12282 07:00:21,909 --> 07:00:22,777 until the end of the year to 12283 07:00:22,777 --> 07:00:26,977 tell me that. Tell me now as 12284 07:00:30,484 --> 07:00:31,486 we move along how many 12285 07:00:31,486 --> 07:00:32,220 contracts are coming along from 12286 07:00:32,220 --> 07:00:33,121 the agencies and how many are 12287 07:00:33,121 --> 07:00:33,988 not? So I will make the calls. 12288 07:00:33,988 --> 07:00:34,555 I think it is outrageous that 12289 07:00:34,555 --> 07:00:35,523 we make a request for 12290 07:00:35,523 --> 07:00:36,491 legislature appropriates it and 12291 07:00:36,491 --> 07:00:37,525 then executive agency doesn't 12292 07:00:37,525 --> 07:00:38,225 enter into the contract as the 12293 07:00:38,225 --> 07:00:39,930 recipient of those funds. That 12294 07:00:39,930 --> 07:00:39,760 is my only point and I will 12295 07:00:39,760 --> 07:00:41,760 move the item. 12296 07:00:42,464 --> 07:00:45,464 >> we have a second? Second 12297 07:00:45,533 --> 07:00:47,533 by commissioner bermudez. 12298 07:00:53,308 --> 07:00:53,942 >> I had a brief comment is 12299 07:00:53,942 --> 07:00:54,976 the vice chair. I want to 12300 07:00:54,976 --> 07:00:55,811 thank commissioner because I 12301 07:00:55,811 --> 07:00:56,812 have been involved in some of 12302 07:00:56,812 --> 07:00:57,678 those negotiations which have 12303 07:00:57,678 --> 07:01:00,780 been extremely difficult with 12304 07:01:06,755 --> 07:01:07,723 executive agencies. Sometimes 12305 07:01:07,723 --> 07:01:08,290 there is blame on our side but 12306 07:01:08,290 --> 07:01:09,257 there's also a lot of 12307 07:01:09,257 --> 07:01:10,225 challenge. I would very much 12308 07:01:10,225 --> 07:01:10,826 welcome the opportunity to work 12309 07:01:10,826 --> 07:01:11,927 with you. Thank you. 12310 07:01:11,927 --> 07:01:14,296 >> all against? Item passes. 12311 07:01:14,296 --> 07:01:15,640 Next, we have 3b2. It looks 12312 07:01:15,640 --> 07:01:16,998 like you again commissioner 12313 07:01:16,998 --> 07:01:18,998 lopez? 12314 07:01:22,710 --> 07:01:22,905 >> I have a quick question on 12315 07:01:22,905 --> 07:01:25,641 3b2. We entered into a 12316 07:01:25,641 --> 07:01:27,641 contract with microsoft 12317 07:01:27,676 --> 07:01:28,711 licensing the nonprofit 12318 07:01:28,711 --> 07:01:31,711 licensing because there was an 12319 07:01:31,715 --> 07:01:32,749 emergency situation. I'm 12320 07:01:32,749 --> 07:01:34,217 curious why we would enter into 12321 07:01:34,217 --> 07:01:37,817 one for three years as opposed 12322 07:01:40,791 --> 07:01:41,525 to a shorter period of time to 12323 07:01:41,525 --> 07:01:42,526 address the emergency? That is 12324 07:01:42,526 --> 07:01:42,926 the only question I have of the 12325 07:01:42,926 --> 07:01:44,926 administration. 12326 07:01:45,228 --> 07:01:47,730 > we wanted to make sure we 12327 07:01:47,730 --> 07:01:49,966 locked in pricing and that is 12328 07:01:49,966 --> 07:01:52,966 where we landed with microsoft 12329 07:01:58,474 --> 07:01:59,174 and to ensure we did have a 12330 07:01:59,174 --> 07:01:59,975 massive escalation of pricing 12331 07:01:59,975 --> 07:02:00,442 as we continue to explore 12332 07:02:00,442 --> 07:02:01,443 different options. 12333 07:02:01,443 --> 07:02:01,676 >> thank you. I will move the 12334 07:02:01,676 --> 07:02:03,676 item. 12335 07:02:04,446 --> 07:02:05,380 >> do we have a second? A 12336 07:02:05,380 --> 07:02:06,147 second by commissioner 12337 07:02:06,147 --> 07:02:06,648 gonzales. All in favor? Hold 12338 07:02:06,648 --> 07:02:08,648 on. Discussion? 12339 07:02:11,285 --> 07:02:11,986 >> actually have a question on 12340 07:02:11,986 --> 07:02:13,321 actually have a question on 12341 07:02:13,321 --> 07:02:15,790 3b2. I know we have had many 12342 07:02:15,790 --> 07:02:18,790 issues with microsoft having to 12343 07:02:21,361 --> 07:02:22,290 work with us on the issues that 12344 07:02:22,290 --> 07:02:25,629 are specific to what we need 12345 07:02:27,334 --> 07:02:28,268 for the libraries. What is the 12346 07:02:28,268 --> 07:02:29,269 plan moving forward? Right now 12347 07:02:29,269 --> 07:02:30,203 this is an emergency contract. 12348 07:02:30,203 --> 07:02:33,506 If they are not willing to 12349 07:02:33,506 --> 07:02:34,440 adhere to the conditions that 12350 07:02:34,440 --> 07:02:34,941 are just not as it is state law 12351 07:02:34,941 --> 07:02:36,941 what happens? 12352 07:02:39,770 --> 07:02:40,846 >> you are recognized. 12353 07:02:40,846 --> 07:02:43,246 >> that is an excellent 12354 07:02:45,217 --> 07:02:46,218 question. When your colleague 12355 07:02:46,218 --> 07:02:46,785 commissioner gilbert as many 12356 07:02:46,785 --> 07:02:47,719 times the staff has been 12357 07:02:47,719 --> 07:02:48,687 directed to start looking for 12358 07:02:48,687 --> 07:02:51,523 plan b. We have found that 12359 07:02:51,523 --> 07:02:52,290 microsoft has been difficult at 12360 07:02:52,290 --> 07:02:54,690 best particularly around this 12361 07:02:58,395 --> 07:02:59,970 issue. It was not unique to 12362 07:02:59,970 --> 07:02:59,897 miami-dade county. This was a 12363 07:02:59,897 --> 07:03:00,898 policy they put in place 12364 07:03:00,898 --> 07:03:01,599 nationally that change the 12365 07:03:01,599 --> 07:03:03,999 definition of a nonprofit. 12366 07:03:04,468 --> 07:03:05,469 That impacted our libraries. 12367 07:03:05,469 --> 07:03:09,690 So staff has been directed to 12368 07:03:09,907 --> 07:03:10,907 look at what we would do in the 12369 07:03:10,907 --> 07:03:11,641 future. Three years gives us 12370 07:03:11,641 --> 07:03:15,678 time. As you all know we have 12371 07:03:15,678 --> 07:03:16,412 been using microsoft for very 12372 07:03:16,412 --> 07:03:19,916 very long time. I will not be 12373 07:03:19,916 --> 07:03:20,917 a smoother easy transition if 12374 07:03:20,917 --> 07:03:22,852 we are unable to negotiate with 12375 07:03:22,852 --> 07:03:25,852 them. And have defined a 12376 07:03:27,322 --> 07:03:29,322 different resource. 12377 07:03:33,128 --> 07:03:33,862 >> so it has been moved by 12378 07:03:33,862 --> 07:03:36,262 commissioner lopez and seconded 12379 07:03:37,310 --> 07:03:37,866 by commissioner gilbert. 12380 07:03:37,866 --> 07:03:40,702 Signify the same aye. All 12381 07:03:40,702 --> 07:03:44,302 opposed nay. We still have a 12382 07:03:45,239 --> 07:03:46,107 very long pool list. Unless 12383 07:03:46,107 --> 07:03:47,800 you want to come into our 12384 07:03:47,800 --> 07:03:47,575 backup meeting which is an 12385 07:03:47,575 --> 07:03:48,776 AUGUST. I suggest we start 12386 07:03:48,776 --> 07:03:51,776 getting through this. I am 12387 07:03:55,849 --> 07:03:56,683 good for the AUGUST meeting. 12388 07:03:56,683 --> 07:03:57,317 3b5. Commissioner from 12389 07:03:57,317 --> 07:03:58,180 district 5 year recognized on 12390 07:03:58,180 --> 07:04:00,180 the miami foundation. 12391 07:04:00,220 --> 07:04:02,620 >> a question to the 12392 07:04:02,622 --> 07:04:03,556 administration with regards to 12393 07:04:03,556 --> 07:04:06,556 getting grant funding from the 12394 07:04:08,161 --> 07:04:08,861 miami foundation or any other 12395 07:04:08,861 --> 07:04:09,662 organization to fund the 12396 07:04:09,662 --> 07:04:12,620 operations and activities of 12397 07:04:12,798 --> 07:04:13,465 the department of cultural 12398 07:04:13,465 --> 07:04:14,433 affairs. Is this something 12399 07:04:14,433 --> 07:04:15,300 that happened before? Is this 12400 07:04:15,300 --> 07:04:17,569 a pattern where we get grant 12401 07:04:17,569 --> 07:04:20,171 money to pay for operations? 12402 07:04:20,171 --> 07:04:22,106 >> through the chair? Last 12403 07:04:22,106 --> 07:04:25,706 year when we weren't looking at 12404 07:04:28,312 --> 07:04:29,470 ways that we could come in with 12405 07:04:29,470 --> 07:04:32,647 a balanced budget, we look at 12406 07:04:34,418 --> 07:04:35,486 how we could reduce possibly 12407 07:04:35,486 --> 07:04:36,186 through some general fund 12408 07:04:36,186 --> 07:04:39,186 reduction in arts and culture. 12409 07:04:39,556 --> 07:04:42,920 At the time the art community 12410 07:04:42,920 --> 07:04:42,859 art donors stepped forward and 12411 07:04:42,859 --> 07:04:45,859 wanted to be helpful. From 12412 07:04:46,796 --> 07:04:47,764 that comes this grant. 12413 07:04:47,764 --> 07:04:48,231 >> thank you I will move the 12414 07:04:48,231 --> 07:04:48,898 item. 12415 07:04:48,898 --> 07:04:51,434 >> and has been moved and 12416 07:04:51,434 --> 07:04:52,501 seconded by commissioner all in 12417 07:04:52,501 --> 07:04:55,501 favor signify the same aye. 12418 07:04:57,973 --> 07:05:00,373 All opposed nay. Commissioner 12419 07:05:02,444 --> 07:05:04,844 bermudez retake up 7d. 12420 07:05:06,470 --> 07:05:08,416 >> 70 I made a motion. 12421 07:05:08,416 --> 07:05:10,816 However, since commissioner is 12422 07:05:10,919 --> 07:05:15,119 not here and I would like a 12423 07:05:15,256 --> 07:05:16,190 full body we need a full body 12424 07:05:16,190 --> 07:05:16,824 to make a decision on this. I 12425 07:05:16,824 --> 07:05:19,493 do not believe as attorneys 12426 07:05:19,493 --> 07:05:21,893 clarified because it impacts 12427 07:05:23,130 --> 07:05:27,330 emp we have an ability to defer 12428 07:05:27,500 --> 07:05:28,568 it to the full body is here to 12429 07:05:28,568 --> 07:05:31,568 move it along for another 12430 07:05:33,573 --> 07:05:34,374 deferral until the full body is 12431 07:05:34,374 --> 07:05:36,374 here SEPTEMBER 1. 12432 07:05:38,277 --> 07:05:41,277 >> show it defer to SEPTEMBER 12433 07:05:47,185 --> 07:05:47,853 1. All opposed nay. Show it 12434 07:05:47,853 --> 07:05:49,254 for SEPTEMBER 1. Commissioner 12435 07:05:49,254 --> 07:05:51,654 from district 12 you are 12436 07:05:57,929 --> 07:05:59,929 recognized. Super sisters? 12437 07:06:01,232 --> 07:06:05,432 >> I think this one is the one 12438 07:06:05,702 --> 07:06:06,637 that I have an amendment. I 12439 07:06:06,637 --> 07:06:08,705 don't know if the attorneys 12440 07:06:08,705 --> 07:06:11,105 want to read it? 12441 07:06:17,814 --> 07:06:18,515 >> substitute the landlord's 12442 07:06:18,515 --> 07:06:19,782 name in the mayor's memorandum. 12443 07:06:19,782 --> 07:06:20,516 The title and section one of 12444 07:06:20,516 --> 07:06:23,186 the resolution to reflect the 12445 07:06:23,186 --> 07:06:25,586 current property owner as 4106 12446 07:06:28,991 --> 07:06:29,692 in place of three super sisters 12447 07:06:29,692 --> 07:06:32,920 corporation. And to substitute 12448 07:06:34,329 --> 07:06:35,960 the least -- lease agreement 12449 07:06:35,960 --> 07:06:38,960 with a similar lease executed 12450 07:06:38,767 --> 07:06:41,767 by 4106. The air by reflecting 12451 07:06:48,209 --> 07:06:49,376 the new landlord's name. 12452 07:06:49,376 --> 07:06:50,277 >> is basically a technicality 12453 07:06:50,277 --> 07:06:51,178 MR. Chair. As much as I love 12454 07:06:51,178 --> 07:06:52,146 the super sisters because I 12455 07:06:52,146 --> 07:06:52,913 have three daughters the 12456 07:06:52,913 --> 07:06:55,549 reality is the property where 12457 07:06:55,549 --> 07:06:56,216 we are actually leasing the 12458 07:06:56,216 --> 07:06:58,552 owners is now 4106 llc. It is 12459 07:06:58,552 --> 07:06:59,452 the corrected technicality. In 12460 07:06:59,452 --> 07:07:03,520 between the time period I guess 12461 07:07:05,240 --> 07:07:06,392 it started. 12462 07:07:06,392 --> 07:07:07,126 >> seconded by commissioner 12463 07:07:07,126 --> 07:07:10,126 gilbert. All in favor signify 12464 07:07:10,262 --> 07:07:13,862 by saying aye. Show the item 12465 07:07:14,667 --> 07:07:17,667 passes amended. 8k for an 12466 07:07:23,208 --> 07:07:25,410 eight in -- n7. 12467 07:07:25,410 --> 07:07:27,779 >> ak for my question was why 12468 07:07:27,779 --> 07:07:30,779 the ta need folks social 12469 07:07:34,285 --> 07:07:35,860 security numbers? I know why 12470 07:07:35,860 --> 07:07:36,860 we need it and sending 12471 07:07:36,860 --> 07:07:36,687 information but I don't know 12472 07:07:36,687 --> 07:07:40,287 why they need it? I didn't 12473 07:07:40,690 --> 07:07:41,225 really I wasn't providing on 12474 07:07:41,225 --> 07:07:43,593 that portion of it. 12475 07:07:43,593 --> 07:07:45,993 >> attorneys, is there a 12476 07:07:46,296 --> 07:07:47,297 reason? 12477 07:07:47,297 --> 07:07:49,697 >> I believe the property 12478 07:07:51,634 --> 07:07:52,301 appraiser is here. They are 12479 07:07:52,301 --> 07:07:53,870 supposed to be here to answer 12480 07:07:53,870 --> 07:07:54,837 the question. 12481 07:07:54,837 --> 07:07:55,771 >> somebody from the property 12482 07:07:55,771 --> 07:07:58,171 appraiser's office in the 12483 07:08:03,445 --> 07:08:04,546 chamber? 12484 07:08:04,546 --> 07:08:05,213 >> he is in the building if 12485 07:08:05,213 --> 07:08:06,480 you can give him a few minutes? 12486 07:08:06,480 --> 07:08:10,248 >> we can come back to it if 12487 07:08:17,910 --> 07:08:19,920 necessary. Eight and seven 12488 07:08:19,920 --> 07:08:21,920 commissioner from district 1. 12489 07:08:24,531 --> 07:08:25,866 >> we all know, we do not have 12490 07:08:25,866 --> 07:08:29,466 to guess about this. I just 12491 07:08:35,207 --> 07:08:36,175 want to say I am going to come 12492 07:08:36,175 --> 07:08:37,176 I don't know what you all would 12493 07:08:37,176 --> 07:08:37,810 say give me credit. Give me 12494 07:08:37,810 --> 07:08:38,578 credit for putting this on the 12495 07:08:38,578 --> 07:08:39,612 agenda. Transportation and 12496 07:08:39,612 --> 07:08:40,913 getting it out of committee. 12497 07:08:40,913 --> 07:08:45,113 To stacy miller, I am -- and 12498 07:08:46,852 --> 07:08:47,786 able director and they both did 12499 07:08:47,786 --> 07:08:50,186 their tedious early morning 12500 07:08:51,289 --> 07:08:52,257 calls lobbying for this item. 12501 07:08:52,257 --> 07:08:52,924 It is before the board so you 12502 07:08:52,924 --> 07:08:57,724 all can pass it. I am going to 12503 07:08:58,563 --> 07:08:59,364 vote no on this. I understand 12504 07:08:59,364 --> 07:09:00,131 why needs to pass. 12505 07:09:00,131 --> 07:09:00,998 Fundamentally understand what 12506 07:09:00,998 --> 07:09:04,598 we are doing. We are giving 12507 07:09:06,504 --> 07:09:07,371 money to complete an asset that 12508 07:09:07,371 --> 07:09:08,339 we are going to build that is 12509 07:09:08,339 --> 07:09:11,939 going to be managed by someone 12510 07:09:16,980 --> 07:09:17,681 else was going to use those 12511 07:09:17,681 --> 07:09:18,615 resources. When he took public 12512 07:09:18,615 --> 07:09:19,616 money to build it up for people 12513 07:09:19,616 --> 07:09:20,516 in this specific place. That 12514 07:09:20,516 --> 07:09:21,517 is what is going to happen. 12515 07:09:21,517 --> 07:09:22,518 That is what happens in the 12516 07:09:22,518 --> 07:09:24,518 underlying and substantially 12517 07:09:26,550 --> 07:09:26,822 different. It is substantially 12518 07:09:26,822 --> 07:09:27,723 different and how it operates. 12519 07:09:27,723 --> 07:09:28,624 I just want to put that out 12520 07:09:28,624 --> 07:09:30,590 there because sometimes we 12521 07:09:30,590 --> 07:09:31,260 wonder why we have areas of the 12522 07:09:31,260 --> 07:09:33,950 haves and have-nots. They have 12523 07:09:33,950 --> 07:09:36,310 and have-nots happen in votes 12524 07:09:36,310 --> 07:09:39,367 just like this one we allocate 12525 07:09:39,367 --> 07:09:40,335 no extra money. The money is 12526 07:09:40,335 --> 07:09:42,937 within the contingency of the 12527 07:09:42,937 --> 07:09:43,838 contract. I had the problem 12528 07:09:43,838 --> 07:09:46,838 with the original contract. I 12529 07:09:46,840 --> 07:09:47,541 obviously have a problem now. 12530 07:09:47,541 --> 07:09:49,541 With exercising contingency. 12531 07:09:49,677 --> 07:09:51,677 Thank you. 12532 07:10:03,957 --> 07:10:04,691 >> seconded by commissioner. 12533 07:10:04,691 --> 07:10:05,959 You are recognized. 12534 07:10:05,959 --> 07:10:06,693 >> thank you MR. Chair. What 12535 07:10:06,693 --> 07:10:09,693 department does this money come 12536 07:10:10,863 --> 07:10:12,863 out of? 12537 07:10:13,499 --> 07:10:15,499 >> yes, direct of 12538 07:10:16,702 --> 07:10:18,702 transportation. 12539 07:10:18,871 --> 07:10:20,572 >> this come out of the 12540 07:10:20,572 --> 07:10:22,572 department of transportation 12541 07:10:26,878 --> 07:10:27,878 and public works? 12542 07:10:27,878 --> 07:10:28,847 >> stacy miller director and 12543 07:10:28,847 --> 07:10:29,781 ceo of the department of 12544 07:10:29,781 --> 07:10:30,148 transportation and public 12545 07:10:30,148 --> 07:10:30,848 works. Yes. 12546 07:10:30,848 --> 07:10:31,582 >> the total contract value 12547 07:10:31,582 --> 07:10:33,317 you are extending this is $8.2 12548 07:10:33,317 --> 07:10:35,317 million? 12549 07:10:35,853 --> 07:10:36,153 >> for the cei inspection 12550 07:10:36,153 --> 07:10:38,153 services. 12551 07:10:40,592 --> 07:10:43,592 >> I guess a newer section? 12552 07:10:49,933 --> 07:10:50,967 >> it is an x police active 12553 07:10:50,967 --> 07:10:51,434 section that is currently under 12554 07:10:51,434 --> 07:10:52,435 construction. 12555 07:10:52,435 --> 07:10:53,436 >> this is to complete the 12556 07:10:53,436 --> 07:10:53,970 construction that is already 12557 07:10:53,970 --> 07:10:54,403 underway? 12558 07:10:54,403 --> 07:10:55,138 >> correct. 12559 07:10:55,138 --> 07:10:55,938 >> how much is in your budget 12560 07:10:55,938 --> 07:10:56,939 aside from this item to 12561 07:10:56,939 --> 07:10:57,973 complete the underlying whether 12562 07:10:57,973 --> 07:10:58,174 it is under construction or 12563 07:10:58,174 --> 07:11:00,174 not? 12564 07:11:04,580 --> 07:11:05,447 >> 'sit is $8 million how much 12565 07:11:05,447 --> 07:11:06,381 is in your budget to complete 12566 07:11:06,381 --> 07:11:08,781 the underlying whether under 12567 07:11:11,119 --> 07:11:12,119 construction or not? 12568 07:11:12,119 --> 07:11:12,688 >> we have an available budget 12569 07:11:12,688 --> 07:11:13,721 of $2.7 million. 12570 07:11:13,721 --> 07:11:16,357 >> 2.7 that is all that is 12571 07:11:16,357 --> 07:11:17,692 left in order to allocate to 12572 07:11:17,692 --> 07:11:19,193 the underlying to finish the 12573 07:11:19,193 --> 07:11:20,194 construction? 12574 07:11:20,194 --> 07:11:23,794 >> we have already come to you 12575 07:11:25,332 --> 07:11:26,330 with our last extension for 12576 07:11:26,330 --> 07:11:26,967 construction and this is our 12577 07:11:26,967 --> 07:11:29,169 last extension request for the 12578 07:11:29,169 --> 07:11:31,205 cei which is in concert with 12579 07:11:31,205 --> 07:11:33,205 the approved construction 12580 07:11:33,406 --> 07:11:33,974 extension. We anticipate no 12581 07:11:33,974 --> 07:11:35,974 further request. 12582 07:11:36,910 --> 07:11:40,510 >> the on this one and the 2 12583 07:11:41,247 --> 07:11:41,547 million that you just 12584 07:11:41,547 --> 07:11:42,140 discussed? 12585 07:11:42,140 --> 07:11:44,140 >> yes, ma'am. 12586 07:11:46,752 --> 07:11:50,352 >> we need a second. We need 12587 07:11:51,690 --> 07:11:53,791 a second by commissioner lopez. 12588 07:11:53,791 --> 07:11:56,791 All opposed, nay. Show the 12589 07:12:00,865 --> 07:12:01,766 item past reflecting two no. 12590 07:12:01,766 --> 07:12:04,166 Commissioner from district 12 I 12591 07:12:11,475 --> 07:12:12,376 am going to call up and you are 12592 07:12:12,376 --> 07:12:13,277 the pulling commission on all 12593 07:12:13,277 --> 07:12:13,910 three items. You MAY speak on 12594 07:12:13,910 --> 07:12:14,711 them all together. 82, 83, 84. 12595 07:12:14,711 --> 07:12:16,646 >> I want to make comments 12596 07:12:16,646 --> 07:12:20,246 about the change orders. It is 12597 07:12:22,218 --> 07:12:23,152 a bad policy and sometimes it 12598 07:12:23,152 --> 07:12:24,621 is warranted. This always cost 12599 07:12:24,621 --> 07:12:25,488 us more money. If it is 12600 07:12:25,488 --> 07:12:27,888 estimated mistakes then we 12601 07:12:29,580 --> 07:12:29,992 should know. I think one of 12602 07:12:29,992 --> 07:12:30,860 these things has 112 trees or 12603 07:12:30,860 --> 07:12:33,860 something. But we really need 12604 07:12:33,962 --> 07:12:36,498 to evaluate these contracts. I 12605 07:12:36,498 --> 07:12:40,698 am going to vote for them all 12606 07:12:44,272 --> 07:12:45,173 three. MR. CHAIRMAN I have to 12607 07:12:45,173 --> 07:12:45,807 come in on all three. It is 12608 07:12:45,807 --> 07:12:46,507 bad policy to have change 12609 07:12:46,507 --> 07:12:48,507 orders constantly. 12610 07:12:48,709 --> 07:12:51,709 >> I have a quick question. 12611 07:12:58,185 --> 07:12:59,190 >> I need a motion. You are 12612 07:12:59,190 --> 07:12:59,986 recognized for a question. 12613 07:12:59,986 --> 07:13:00,754 >> I have a question on 804 12614 07:13:00,754 --> 07:13:03,754 because the work was completed 12615 07:13:05,525 --> 07:13:06,559 in 2025. But the payment 12616 07:13:06,559 --> 07:13:08,294 wasn't issued. We are seeing 12617 07:13:08,294 --> 07:13:10,663 the change order dated MARCH 12618 07:13:10,663 --> 07:13:13,663 2026. Was there a reason why 12619 07:13:13,799 --> 07:13:17,999 we have over a year from when 12620 07:13:20,172 --> 07:13:22,572 the work was completed? 12621 07:13:23,800 --> 07:13:26,800 >> j was the director. When 12622 07:13:27,745 --> 07:13:28,813 the work is complete they are 12623 07:13:28,813 --> 07:13:30,748 still closed out. There's not 12624 07:13:30,748 --> 07:13:32,748 on negotiation -- 12625 07:13:34,218 --> 07:13:36,354 [Indiscernible]. It takes a 12626 07:13:36,354 --> 07:13:40,554 matter of months to get on the 12627 07:13:42,326 --> 07:13:43,393 agenda to hear for the vote. I 12628 07:13:43,393 --> 07:13:44,261 don't have answers to the exact 12629 07:13:44,261 --> 07:13:44,828 timeline on the delay but I do 12630 07:13:44,828 --> 07:13:45,963 know it takes time. 12631 07:13:45,963 --> 07:13:46,863 >> I appreciate that but a 12632 07:13:46,863 --> 07:13:50,463 year and three months is a 12633 07:13:51,935 --> 07:13:52,602 little bit more in than what we 12634 07:13:52,602 --> 07:13:53,436 usually see here in terms of 12635 07:13:53,436 --> 07:13:54,700 closeout. But yes, I am happy 12636 07:13:54,700 --> 07:13:54,871 to support it. I think we 12637 07:13:54,871 --> 07:13:55,872 should be mindful of the time. 12638 07:13:55,872 --> 07:14:00,672 I know it takes a while to get 12639 07:14:01,770 --> 07:14:01,977 on the agenda. I think a year 12640 07:14:01,977 --> 07:14:02,211 and a few months is a long 12641 07:14:02,211 --> 07:14:04,211 time. 12642 07:14:05,681 --> 07:14:08,681 >> all signify the same aye. 12643 07:14:08,750 --> 07:14:11,150 All opposed, nay. Say 802803 12644 07:14:12,587 --> 07:14:16,187 and 84 passed by this boat. -- 12645 07:14:18,125 --> 07:14:19,930 vote. 12646 07:14:19,930 --> 07:14:19,694 >> I am going to support it 12647 07:14:19,694 --> 07:14:20,394 again but I'm going to make 12648 07:14:20,394 --> 07:14:23,394 some comments. This reminds me 12649 07:14:24,664 --> 07:14:25,599 of the other agreement with the 12650 07:14:25,599 --> 07:14:27,635 airport people here. I still 12651 07:14:27,635 --> 07:14:31,235 have the answer from the first 12652 07:14:32,406 --> 07:14:33,139 agreement. Let me go through 12653 07:14:33,139 --> 07:14:37,110 MR. Redd and MR. Gold and I 12654 07:14:37,110 --> 07:14:37,811 know you are watching. And the 12655 07:14:37,811 --> 07:14:38,711 lobbyists and I'm sure there 12656 07:14:38,711 --> 07:14:42,311 are watching and one of them 12657 07:14:44,483 --> 07:14:45,217 was here. I think it is bad 12658 07:14:45,217 --> 07:14:48,817 policy and this better be a 12659 07:14:50,222 --> 07:14:51,156 clear transparent process for 12660 07:14:51,156 --> 07:14:52,570 the contract at the airport 12661 07:14:52,570 --> 07:14:53,250 because it wasn't last time. I 12662 07:14:53,250 --> 07:14:57,225 have a problem with it. I am 12663 07:15:01,266 --> 07:15:01,966 going to be watching like a 12664 07:15:01,966 --> 07:15:02,867 hawk and like white on rice I 12665 07:15:02,867 --> 07:15:03,468 am going to be on you guys. I 12666 07:15:03,468 --> 07:15:04,335 want to know that the process 12667 07:15:04,335 --> 07:15:05,269 is fair to the businesses of 12668 07:15:05,269 --> 07:15:06,671 miami-dade county and across 12669 07:15:06,671 --> 07:15:07,705 the country and it is a 12670 07:15:07,705 --> 07:15:10,705 national vendor. It is not 12671 07:15:11,709 --> 07:15:14,109 particularly for anybody in 12672 07:15:15,145 --> 07:15:15,979 particular so that is my 12673 07:15:15,979 --> 07:15:18,181 comment. I am going to support 12674 07:15:18,181 --> 07:15:19,150 it because the sponsor laid it 12675 07:15:19,150 --> 07:15:23,215 out well. I do want to make 12676 07:15:24,554 --> 07:15:25,388 sure that this gets done the 12677 07:15:25,388 --> 07:15:26,589 right way with clear 12678 07:15:26,589 --> 07:15:29,325 transparency for all of us. 12679 07:15:29,325 --> 07:15:30,526 >> moved by commissioner cohen 12680 07:15:30,526 --> 07:15:32,926 higgins and seconded by 12681 07:15:41,690 --> 07:15:43,690 commissioner lopez. 12682 07:15:52,947 --> 07:15:53,981 >> thank you MR. Chair and 12683 07:15:53,981 --> 07:15:54,949 commissioner bermudez. I share 12684 07:15:54,949 --> 07:15:55,616 those concerns and I wanted to 12685 07:15:55,616 --> 07:15:56,450 eliminate the fact that this 12686 07:15:56,450 --> 07:15:57,818 award and the airport can 12687 07:15:57,818 --> 07:15:58,786 correct me if I am wrong. It 12688 07:15:58,786 --> 07:15:59,453 is an entirely new company that 12689 07:15:59,453 --> 07:16:00,420 has never been in our airport 12690 07:16:00,420 --> 07:16:01,540 before. So talk about allowing 12691 07:16:01,540 --> 07:16:04,540 new opportunity and not having 12692 07:16:04,991 --> 07:16:06,326 the same cabal continue to come 12693 07:16:06,326 --> 07:16:08,862 back to us to occupy spaces. I 12694 07:16:08,862 --> 07:16:13,620 am with you and this is the 12695 07:16:13,466 --> 07:16:14,467 first time we have offered 12696 07:16:14,467 --> 07:16:15,201 concession opportunities in a 12697 07:16:15,201 --> 07:16:16,202 very long time in his county to 12698 07:16:16,202 --> 07:16:17,837 an entirely new company. So I 12699 07:16:17,837 --> 07:16:18,370 echo your sentiments. Thank 12700 07:16:18,370 --> 07:16:20,370 you MR. Chair. 12701 07:16:24,420 --> 07:16:24,976 >> all in favor signify by 12702 07:16:24,976 --> 07:16:27,976 saying aye. All opposed nay. 12703 07:16:29,381 --> 07:16:30,140 Show that item passing. Vice 12704 07:16:30,140 --> 07:16:30,381 chair on ap nine you are 12705 07:16:30,381 --> 07:16:32,381 recognized. 12706 07:16:34,952 --> 07:16:37,352 >> I'll be withdrawing my 12707 07:16:40,691 --> 07:16:41,659 pool. 12708 07:16:41,659 --> 07:16:42,393 >> seconded by commissioner 12709 07:16:42,393 --> 07:16:43,227 gilbert. Signify the same aye. 12710 07:16:43,227 --> 07:16:46,227 All opposed nay. Show it 12711 07:16:50,200 --> 07:16:52,600 passing. I've got 95 was 12712 07:16:53,838 --> 07:16:54,738 released or no? 95 was 12713 07:16:54,738 --> 07:16:57,738 released in the past that 12714 07:17:03,748 --> 07:17:04,649 already? I have 11 a one. 12715 07:17:04,649 --> 07:17:05,683 >> thank you very much MR. 12716 07:17:05,683 --> 07:17:08,683 CHAIRMAN. I just wanted to 12717 07:17:10,555 --> 07:17:11,189 congratulate commissioner, she 12718 07:17:11,189 --> 07:17:12,560 is the chair of the housing 12719 07:17:12,560 --> 07:17:13,358 committee. She has done an 12720 07:17:13,358 --> 07:17:14,759 amazing job on median income. 12721 07:17:14,759 --> 07:17:18,620 I'm grateful to see this item 12722 07:17:18,620 --> 07:17:19,497 come before us. I will say 12723 07:17:19,497 --> 07:17:20,699 that even within my commission 12724 07:17:20,699 --> 07:17:22,500 district and I think it is 12725 07:17:22,500 --> 07:17:26,100 important that we know that the 12726 07:17:27,972 --> 07:17:28,973 report calls for them to do ami 12727 07:17:28,973 --> 07:17:29,807 by commission district. I 12728 07:17:29,807 --> 07:17:33,407 would almost say you have to 12729 07:17:38,983 --> 07:17:39,951 drill down even further. So 12730 07:17:39,951 --> 07:17:40,920 brickle and little havana or 12731 07:17:40,920 --> 07:17:41,687 contiguous communities. The 12732 07:17:41,687 --> 07:17:42,588 ami and brickle is not the same 12733 07:17:42,588 --> 07:17:43,589 as the ami in little havana. 12734 07:17:43,589 --> 07:17:46,592 As you move around my district 12735 07:17:46,592 --> 07:17:47,626 and I'm sure that the same goes 12736 07:17:47,626 --> 07:17:48,527 for your districts. My 12737 07:17:48,527 --> 07:17:50,927 district is incredibly diverse 12738 07:17:53,632 --> 07:17:54,733 and the ami within my district 12739 07:17:54,733 --> 07:17:55,801 is really something that I have 12740 07:17:55,801 --> 07:17:56,635 been struggling with. And so 12741 07:17:56,635 --> 07:17:57,369 hopefully as we drove down for 12742 07:17:57,369 --> 07:17:59,769 this item by commission 12743 07:18:01,541 --> 07:18:02,942 district that maybe we will get 12744 07:18:02,942 --> 07:18:05,942 census tracts or zip codes. 12745 07:18:08,914 --> 07:18:09,948 Honestly it has been incredibly 12746 07:18:09,948 --> 07:18:10,583 hard to say that the ami is the 12747 07:18:10,583 --> 07:18:12,118 same. It is not. I look 12748 07:18:12,118 --> 07:18:14,118 forward working with 12749 07:18:14,854 --> 07:18:15,755 commissioner and she can just 12750 07:18:15,755 --> 07:18:18,155 there continues her work 12751 07:18:24,464 --> 07:18:25,431 leading the discussion on ami. 12752 07:18:25,431 --> 07:18:25,698 >> MAY I be added as a sponsor 12753 07:18:25,698 --> 07:18:27,698 please? 12754 07:18:32,272 --> 07:18:35,272 >> yes. Show as a sponsor. 12755 07:18:35,942 --> 07:18:36,877 We have a motion and a second. 12756 07:18:36,877 --> 07:18:39,877 A motion by commissioner lopez 12757 07:18:41,480 --> 07:18:42,349 and second by gilbert. All in 12758 07:18:42,349 --> 07:18:45,349 favor signify by saying aye. 12759 07:18:50,891 --> 07:18:51,258 All opposed nay. Show it 12760 07:18:51,258 --> 07:18:52,259 passed. 12761 07:18:52,259 --> 07:18:52,760 >> there's someone here from 12762 07:18:52,760 --> 07:18:53,794 the pa's office. 12763 07:18:53,794 --> 07:18:57,394 >> made the person from the pa 12764 07:19:09,343 --> 07:19:10,912 office approach on ak four. 12765 07:19:10,912 --> 07:19:14,512 That would be you. Please say 12766 07:19:14,982 --> 07:19:18,582 her name. And title. And we 12767 07:19:21,122 --> 07:19:22,256 have a question for you on ak 12768 07:19:22,256 --> 07:19:24,656 four. Commissioner gilbert you 12769 07:19:25,360 --> 07:19:25,527 are recognized for q&a clicks 12770 07:19:25,527 --> 07:19:27,527 -- 12771 07:19:39,207 --> 07:19:40,208 >> we are going to be sharing 12772 07:19:40,208 --> 07:19:42,608 social security numbers with 12773 07:19:44,460 --> 07:19:48,246 you. I am told that you need 12774 07:19:50,170 --> 07:19:50,853 that to do what? 12775 07:19:50,853 --> 07:19:51,487 >> first of all good 12776 07:19:51,487 --> 07:19:52,421 afternoon. Thank you for 12777 07:19:52,421 --> 07:19:55,124 waiting for us. We were on our 12778 07:19:55,124 --> 07:19:58,724 way down. Typically we do have 12779 07:19:59,327 --> 07:20:00,328 social security number. The 12780 07:20:00,328 --> 07:20:01,960 reason why we are requesting 12781 07:20:01,960 --> 07:20:03,532 this is because we need to 12782 07:20:03,532 --> 07:20:05,935 match what we have in existence 12783 07:20:05,935 --> 07:20:06,769 in our records with what they 12784 07:20:06,769 --> 07:20:09,169 can give us. Basically 12785 07:20:10,472 --> 07:20:11,740 determine if they are in 12786 07:20:11,740 --> 07:20:13,474 compliance or not in 12787 07:20:15,111 --> 07:20:17,460 compliance. This already we 12788 07:20:17,460 --> 07:20:20,646 had in the past this agreement 12789 07:20:20,984 --> 07:20:24,584 with pa cd. It was in 2013 12790 07:20:29,910 --> 07:20:29,725 when our office became 12791 07:20:29,725 --> 07:20:30,594 constitutional. We need a 12792 07:20:30,594 --> 07:20:31,295 memorandum or agreement 12793 07:20:31,295 --> 07:20:33,330 basically that is why we are 12794 07:20:33,330 --> 07:20:34,265 here. Was already approved and 12795 07:20:34,265 --> 07:20:34,931 the solution is there but we 12796 07:20:34,931 --> 07:20:35,765 were basically expanding a 12797 07:20:35,765 --> 07:20:38,768 little bit more to include a 12798 07:20:38,768 --> 07:20:41,168 couple of extra items. 12799 07:20:42,500 --> 07:20:44,875 >> I am not sure that actually 12800 07:20:44,875 --> 07:20:47,110 answered the question why you 12801 07:20:47,110 --> 07:20:49,510 need social security numbers. 12802 07:20:57,387 --> 07:20:58,388 Because you always had them. 12803 07:20:58,388 --> 07:20:59,220 >> we have on our records the 12804 07:20:59,220 --> 07:21:00,290 social security numbers of 12805 07:21:00,290 --> 07:21:00,992 every individual requesting and 12806 07:21:00,992 --> 07:21:01,892 receiving exemption benefits. 12807 07:21:01,892 --> 07:21:02,827 The subsection provides voucher 12808 07:21:02,827 --> 07:21:06,427 program and all of that and 12809 07:21:08,432 --> 07:21:08,599 provides landlords and tenants 12810 07:21:08,599 --> 07:21:09,366 -- 12811 07:21:09,366 --> 07:21:12,366 >> guys can we lower the 12812 07:21:14,405 --> 07:21:15,172 chatter in the back from staff? 12813 07:21:15,172 --> 07:21:16,730 Even us on the dais cannot hit 12814 07:21:16,730 --> 07:21:16,407 the gentleman. Continue 12815 07:21:16,407 --> 07:21:18,407 please. 12816 07:21:20,879 --> 07:21:21,813 >> and then we get this 12817 07:21:21,813 --> 07:21:25,413 information from pa cd and we 12818 07:21:25,750 --> 07:21:27,185 can verify the landlords are 12819 07:21:27,185 --> 07:21:29,185 claiming homestead exemption 12820 07:21:29,453 --> 07:21:32,453 present that my pretending they 12821 07:21:42,834 --> 07:21:43,769 are homestead when they are 12822 07:21:43,769 --> 07:21:44,769 renting it out to the program. 12823 07:21:44,769 --> 07:21:45,804 The only way to identify the 12824 07:21:45,804 --> 07:21:46,438 individuals and situations is 12825 07:21:46,438 --> 07:21:47,372 through the social security 12826 07:21:47,372 --> 07:21:48,273 numbers. We already have the 12827 07:21:48,273 --> 07:21:48,873 social security numbers and 12828 07:21:48,873 --> 07:21:49,540 besides it is required by law 12829 07:21:49,540 --> 07:21:50,508 by statute. 12830 07:21:50,508 --> 07:21:51,510 >> that is not the only way. 12831 07:21:51,510 --> 07:21:52,544 I can think of one way almost 12832 07:21:52,544 --> 07:21:55,130 immediately if someone list a 12833 07:21:55,130 --> 07:21:56,381 homestead with an address and 12834 07:21:56,381 --> 07:21:59,981 that address is also listed on 12835 07:22:05,591 --> 07:22:06,325 a voucher, you know there is an 12836 07:22:06,325 --> 07:22:07,259 inconsistency and you could do 12837 07:22:07,259 --> 07:22:08,930 it without a social security 12838 07:22:08,930 --> 07:22:09,600 number. You do not need a 12839 07:22:09,600 --> 07:22:09,294 social security number for 12840 07:22:09,294 --> 07:22:11,294 that. 12841 07:22:16,680 --> 07:22:16,936 >> it is in the statute 196 11 12842 07:22:16,936 --> 07:22:17,836 the department of revenue 12843 07:22:17,836 --> 07:22:18,537 implemented this in 2001 so we 12844 07:22:18,537 --> 07:22:19,405 collect the social security 12845 07:22:19,405 --> 07:22:20,373 numbers. This one of the ways 12846 07:22:20,373 --> 07:22:23,373 exactly as you are saying. 12847 07:22:25,344 --> 07:22:25,945 However, we could risk finding 12848 07:22:25,945 --> 07:22:27,945 someone improperly because 12849 07:22:28,748 --> 07:22:29,482 there is mistakes, the name 12850 07:22:29,482 --> 07:22:30,216 sometimes it could be a mistake 12851 07:22:30,216 --> 07:22:33,216 with the names. Or something 12852 07:22:36,550 --> 07:22:36,822 like that. The homes said is 12853 07:22:36,822 --> 07:22:39,222 individual not necessarily in 12854 07:22:43,563 --> 07:22:44,231 the property could be multiple 12855 07:22:44,231 --> 07:22:45,640 individuals in the homestead 12856 07:22:45,640 --> 07:22:45,665 exemption could belong to one 12857 07:22:45,665 --> 07:22:46,566 of them and not the whole 12858 07:22:46,566 --> 07:22:47,500 household. Therefore we need 12859 07:22:47,500 --> 07:22:51,100 to know who is the one 12860 07:22:55,408 --> 07:22:56,410 violating if that is the case. 12861 07:22:56,410 --> 07:22:57,177 And the best identifier is a 12862 07:22:57,177 --> 07:22:58,780 social security number which by 12863 07:22:58,780 --> 07:22:59,779 the way I mentioned before we 12864 07:22:59,779 --> 07:23:00,781 already have this with pa cd. 12865 07:23:00,781 --> 07:23:01,148 The only reason why we are here 12866 07:23:01,148 --> 07:23:03,148 every -- 12867 07:23:08,922 --> 07:23:09,822 >> I appreciate that you have 12868 07:23:09,822 --> 07:23:10,792 always gotten this and now it 12869 07:23:10,792 --> 07:23:11,459 is before us and I am reviewing 12870 07:23:11,459 --> 07:23:12,260 it and I've no if you actually 12871 07:23:12,260 --> 07:23:14,280 need it to do what you're 12872 07:23:14,280 --> 07:23:18,228 saying you do what you need to 12873 07:23:19,767 --> 07:23:20,802 do. If you're giving them who 12874 07:23:20,802 --> 07:23:22,103 has vouchers for housing and 12875 07:23:22,103 --> 07:23:25,703 you want to check it versus 12876 07:23:26,841 --> 07:23:27,575 someone who is claiming 12877 07:23:27,575 --> 07:23:28,442 homestead almost directly line 12878 07:23:28,442 --> 07:23:30,979 from point a to point b is 12879 07:23:30,979 --> 07:23:33,148 actual address. And so I get 12880 07:23:33,148 --> 07:23:35,483 what you are saying. Are you 12881 07:23:35,483 --> 07:23:36,383 telling us the statute require 12882 07:23:36,383 --> 07:23:36,818 us to give you a social 12883 07:23:36,818 --> 07:23:38,818 security number? 12884 07:23:40,956 --> 07:23:42,956 >> it requires it? 12885 07:23:43,892 --> 07:23:45,892 >> it requires it. 12886 07:23:48,662 --> 07:23:49,263 >> if it doesn't require it 12887 07:23:49,263 --> 07:23:52,534 and I'm going to call the 12888 07:23:52,534 --> 07:23:53,268 attorneys and their going to 12889 07:23:53,268 --> 07:23:54,360 tell me if it requires us to 12890 07:23:54,360 --> 07:23:56,436 give the social security 12891 07:24:03,145 --> 07:24:04,145 number? 12892 07:24:04,145 --> 07:24:05,114 >> what I said is the statute 12893 07:24:05,114 --> 07:24:05,848 requires that the property 12894 07:24:05,848 --> 07:24:06,781 appraiser's office collect the 12895 07:24:06,781 --> 07:24:07,749 social security numbers before 12896 07:24:07,749 --> 07:24:08,650 giving an exemption to anybody 12897 07:24:08,650 --> 07:24:12,250 else. So what I'm saying is 12898 07:24:13,422 --> 07:24:14,222 that is the best identifier for 12899 07:24:14,222 --> 07:24:15,157 us to determine who is in 12900 07:24:15,157 --> 07:24:15,892 violation. Because the 12901 07:24:15,892 --> 07:24:16,892 property by the address could 12902 07:24:16,892 --> 07:24:19,892 be in violation but many 12903 07:24:21,130 --> 07:24:22,310 household members we don't know 12904 07:24:22,310 --> 07:24:24,431 the social security number 12905 07:24:25,935 --> 07:24:26,936 associated with the exemption. 12906 07:24:26,936 --> 07:24:29,336 >> moved to different and 12907 07:24:31,474 --> 07:24:32,142 second. All in favor of a 12908 07:24:32,142 --> 07:24:34,542 deferral please signify by 12909 07:24:34,878 --> 07:24:37,878 saying aye. All opposed nay. 12910 07:24:38,681 --> 07:24:42,881 Show ak four is for the next 12911 07:24:49,192 --> 07:24:50,590 bcc meeting. I've got 11 h 13 12912 07:24:50,590 --> 07:24:52,529 supplement. I am going to 12913 07:24:52,529 --> 07:24:53,497 start with senator garcia is 12914 07:24:53,497 --> 07:24:54,264 not just the pulling 12915 07:24:54,264 --> 07:24:57,264 commissioner but the sponsor of 12916 07:24:58,334 --> 07:25:00,734 the item. Senator garcia? 12917 07:25:00,838 --> 07:25:03,838 >> MR. CHAIRMAN I think we 12918 07:25:07,770 --> 07:25:08,450 have seen this item before. It 12919 07:25:08,450 --> 07:25:08,678 was to address some of the 12920 07:25:08,678 --> 07:25:09,479 concerns that were brought up 12921 07:25:09,479 --> 07:25:10,480 at the last county 12922 07:25:10,480 --> 07:25:13,480 commissioner. It has to do 12923 07:25:14,485 --> 07:25:15,519 with the truck parking. I know 12924 07:25:15,519 --> 07:25:16,486 commissioner bermudez has 12925 07:25:16,486 --> 07:25:18,886 serious reservations for it 12926 07:25:19,223 --> 07:25:21,759 because it is in his district. 12927 07:25:21,759 --> 07:25:22,693 We are making the amendment to 12928 07:25:22,693 --> 07:25:25,596 ensure that we don't violate 12929 07:25:25,596 --> 07:25:26,797 the law but give flexibility to 12930 07:25:26,797 --> 07:25:29,197 the administration to ensure 12931 07:25:30,467 --> 07:25:34,670 that we use the connection of 12932 07:25:37,208 --> 07:25:37,942 different parcels to meet the 12933 07:25:37,942 --> 07:25:38,843 letter of the law as it relates 12934 07:25:38,843 --> 07:25:39,777 to the 10 acres. When we look 12935 07:25:39,777 --> 07:25:40,745 back in history, we look at the 12936 07:25:40,745 --> 07:25:42,914 study that was conducted some 12937 07:25:42,914 --> 07:25:46,514 years ago where they said where 12938 07:25:52,624 --> 07:25:53,525 the administration said they 12939 07:25:53,525 --> 07:25:54,493 need a number of acreage to 12940 07:25:54,493 --> 07:25:55,160 satisfy parking would have been 12941 07:25:55,160 --> 07:25:55,927 2 acres. Obviously, we went up 12942 07:25:55,927 --> 07:25:58,327 to 10 acres from minimum 12943 07:26:00,599 --> 07:26:01,300 parking. The reality is 12944 07:26:01,300 --> 07:26:02,267 members is that we had a back 12945 07:26:02,267 --> 07:26:03,268 and forth and I see this really 12946 07:26:03,268 --> 07:26:05,370 as a battle between david and 12947 07:26:05,370 --> 07:26:05,670 goliath. This is the issue 12948 07:26:05,670 --> 07:26:06,838 that we have before you and 12949 07:26:06,838 --> 07:26:07,806 this is why you see this 12950 07:26:07,806 --> 07:26:10,206 substitute amendment that is 12951 07:26:14,130 --> 07:26:14,613 before you. It is to vote up 12952 07:26:14,613 --> 07:26:17,150 or down and I'm sure 12953 07:26:17,150 --> 07:26:19,415 commissioner bermudez is going 12954 07:26:24,790 --> 07:26:25,725 to have something on this. 12955 07:26:25,725 --> 07:26:26,425 >> I have a lot to say MR. 12956 07:26:26,425 --> 07:26:27,660 Chair. Thank you senator, I 12957 07:26:27,660 --> 07:26:31,260 have a lot to say. Let's 12958 07:26:33,990 --> 07:26:34,330 begin. Let's begin by this. 12959 07:26:34,330 --> 07:26:34,967 These are the records from the 12960 07:26:34,967 --> 07:26:35,601 court cases that this county 12961 07:26:35,601 --> 07:26:37,903 has had reference to the 12962 07:26:37,903 --> 07:26:40,903 particular group that has led 12963 07:26:41,608 --> 07:26:42,375 to this item. So the narrative 12964 07:26:42,375 --> 07:26:46,575 you MAY have heard is that this 12965 07:26:49,215 --> 07:26:50,820 is about helping small truck 12966 07:26:50,820 --> 07:26:50,750 parking because they are 12967 07:26:50,750 --> 07:26:51,718 operating illegally because 12968 07:26:51,718 --> 07:26:52,585 they did not meet the 10 acre 12969 07:26:52,585 --> 07:26:53,620 requirement. By the way I was 12970 07:26:53,620 --> 07:26:57,220 not here when the take10 acre 12971 07:26:59,920 --> 07:26:59,993 requirement was voted. I know 12972 07:26:59,993 --> 07:27:00,994 that we want to paint it as 12973 07:27:00,994 --> 07:27:03,394 david versus goliath. Small 12974 07:27:03,897 --> 07:27:04,765 acreage versus large acreage 12975 07:27:04,765 --> 07:27:07,765 operators. If this was only 12976 07:27:11,539 --> 07:27:12,606 issue, I would not be so 12977 07:27:12,606 --> 07:27:13,641 opposed respectfully. It goes 12978 07:27:13,641 --> 07:27:14,541 far beyond that. First this is 12979 07:27:14,541 --> 07:27:15,542 an issue that primarily impacts 12980 07:27:15,542 --> 07:27:16,143 my district is item clearly 12981 07:27:16,143 --> 07:27:19,143 states it seeks to allow 12982 07:27:20,800 --> 07:27:21,215 commercial vehicles to storage 12983 07:27:21,215 --> 07:27:24,215 of the turnpike by aggregating 12984 07:27:26,420 --> 07:27:27,121 parcels that is at least 40 12985 07:27:27,121 --> 07:27:27,921 acres in size. Second, we 12986 07:27:27,921 --> 07:27:30,921 would be directing staff to 12987 07:27:30,991 --> 07:27:31,859 file an application on behalf 12988 07:27:31,859 --> 07:27:32,527 of a group of private 12989 07:27:32,527 --> 07:27:34,610 individuals who are engaging 12990 07:27:34,610 --> 07:27:37,610 not only in illegal truck 12991 07:27:41,350 --> 07:27:41,536 parking operations but who have 12992 07:27:41,536 --> 07:27:42,236 numerous egregious 12993 07:27:42,236 --> 07:27:43,137 environmental violations 12994 07:27:43,137 --> 07:27:46,137 spanning decades some as early 12995 07:27:46,541 --> 07:27:47,375 as 2007. Where are you 12996 07:27:47,375 --> 07:27:48,376 reynolds? The majority of 12997 07:27:48,376 --> 07:27:50,776 these operations are under 12998 07:27:52,347 --> 07:27:54,747 multiple degrees -- decrees 12999 07:27:56,484 --> 07:27:58,884 such as unpermitted underground 13000 07:28:00,756 --> 07:28:03,756 base for performing on trucks. 13001 07:28:13,969 --> 07:28:15,700 It has electable service, and 13002 07:28:15,700 --> 07:28:16,400 proper disposal of hazardous 13003 07:28:16,400 --> 07:28:16,871 materials in liquid waste such 13004 07:28:16,871 --> 07:28:17,906 as motor all, antifreeze, and 13005 07:28:17,906 --> 07:28:18,640 holding tanks filled with an 13006 07:28:18,640 --> 07:28:19,875 identified look will attached 13007 07:28:19,875 --> 07:28:20,575 to mobile homes, paving with 13008 07:28:20,575 --> 07:28:21,377 apartments and best of all this 13009 07:28:21,377 --> 07:28:22,378 has been done and truly 13010 07:28:22,378 --> 07:28:24,313 environmental sensitive wetland 13011 07:28:24,313 --> 07:28:25,681 areas. Not like some where we 13012 07:28:25,681 --> 07:28:27,983 approve applicants that have 13013 07:28:27,983 --> 07:28:31,583 appeared in front of us. So 13014 07:28:42,565 --> 07:28:43,299 why is there no outreach? In 13015 07:28:43,299 --> 07:28:44,500 essence where directing staff 13016 07:28:44,500 --> 07:28:45,168 to file ac dmp application that 13017 07:28:45,168 --> 07:28:46,300 will be a text amendment 13018 07:28:46,300 --> 07:28:46,669 outside the you to be 13019 07:28:46,669 --> 07:28:47,637 legalizing these illegal 13020 07:28:47,637 --> 07:28:48,504 operators who have been blaming 13021 07:28:48,504 --> 07:28:49,505 engaging in violating all land 13022 07:28:49,505 --> 07:28:50,172 use zoning and environmental 13023 07:28:50,172 --> 07:28:53,172 relations. This is not about 13024 07:28:54,911 --> 07:28:55,612 equity. If it was about 13025 07:28:55,612 --> 07:28:56,546 fairness I would be in favor of 13026 07:28:56,546 --> 07:28:57,480 this. But it is not, it is not 13027 07:28:57,480 --> 07:28:58,514 about fairness or equity. It 13028 07:28:58,514 --> 07:28:59,449 not only enables bad actors, it 13029 07:28:59,449 --> 07:29:01,485 legitimizes them. We are 13030 07:29:01,485 --> 07:29:02,219 sending a clear message to them 13031 07:29:02,219 --> 07:29:03,153 keep doing what you're doing. 13032 07:29:03,153 --> 07:29:04,187 We don't care. We changed the 13033 07:29:04,187 --> 07:29:04,954 rules for you. That appears to 13034 07:29:04,954 --> 07:29:05,622 be with her attorney said 13035 07:29:05,622 --> 07:29:06,756 before I get into what the 13036 07:29:06,756 --> 07:29:10,356 judge said. Do you think this 13037 07:29:10,393 --> 07:29:11,394 is going to encourage somebody 13038 07:29:11,394 --> 07:29:13,363 who hasn't taken care of these 13039 07:29:13,363 --> 07:29:16,133 issues since the year 2019 at a 13040 07:29:16,133 --> 07:29:19,133 minimum? To do anything? No. 13041 07:29:20,805 --> 07:29:21,806 We are going to instruct staff 13042 07:29:21,806 --> 07:29:22,640 even the legal proceedings that 13043 07:29:22,640 --> 07:29:23,273 I am going to get to in a 13044 07:29:23,273 --> 07:29:25,809 second. So we are telling the 13045 07:29:25,809 --> 07:29:29,409 people and of this county those 13046 07:29:30,247 --> 07:29:31,182 that don't follow our rules 13047 07:29:31,182 --> 07:29:31,883 hey, don't follow the rules. 13048 07:29:31,883 --> 07:29:34,518 And those that invest and 13049 07:29:34,518 --> 07:29:35,352 follow the rules hey, it 13050 07:29:35,352 --> 07:29:36,870 doesn't pay to follow the 13051 07:29:36,870 --> 07:29:37,421 rules. After all all you have 13052 07:29:37,421 --> 07:29:42,221 to do is go to the board of 13053 07:29:45,530 --> 07:29:46,130 county commissioners and we 13054 07:29:46,130 --> 07:29:46,997 will figure out a way to 13055 07:29:46,997 --> 07:29:47,698 satisfy it. I would expect the 13056 07:29:47,698 --> 07:29:48,532 mayor to veto this. I want to 13057 07:29:48,532 --> 07:29:49,200 touch upon something that is 13058 07:29:49,200 --> 07:29:50,330 really really important. I 13059 07:29:50,330 --> 07:29:51,703 have given you a copy of the 13060 07:29:51,703 --> 07:29:54,103 hon. Judge jason demetri's 13061 07:29:57,208 --> 07:29:58,176 most recent hearing. I am 13062 07:29:58,176 --> 07:30:02,376 going to start by the fact on 13063 07:30:04,549 --> 07:30:05,554 his ruling. Instead she is 13064 07:30:05,554 --> 07:30:06,251 interested for political favors 13065 07:30:06,251 --> 07:30:07,850 to allow her to continue 13066 07:30:07,850 --> 07:30:09,485 destroying the environment and 13067 07:30:10,923 --> 07:30:11,690 violating clear requirements. 13068 07:30:11,690 --> 07:30:15,127 Okay and we had our attorneys 13069 07:30:15,127 --> 07:30:18,630 at the hearing. So because her 13070 07:30:18,630 --> 07:30:19,630 attorney and his or her utmost 13071 07:30:19,630 --> 07:30:20,666 knowledge the board of county 13072 07:30:20,666 --> 07:30:23,135 commissioners they are going to 13073 07:30:23,135 --> 07:30:26,710 take care of it. And this is a 13074 07:30:26,710 --> 07:30:29,710 quote from the hon. George 13075 07:30:30,242 --> 07:30:31,544 jason demetri's. This is a 13076 07:30:31,544 --> 07:30:32,578 case of a defining conducting 13077 07:30:32,578 --> 07:30:34,978 unpermitted activity from the 13078 07:30:36,820 --> 07:30:36,749 beginning and continually 13079 07:30:36,749 --> 07:30:37,583 promising to work towards 13080 07:30:37,583 --> 07:30:38,617 compliance. But instead 13081 07:30:38,617 --> 07:30:41,170 containing doing to further 13082 07:30:43,155 --> 07:30:44,123 violate with virtually no 13083 07:30:44,123 --> 07:30:44,857 apparent effort to remedy the 13084 07:30:44,857 --> 07:30:48,457 situation. It is clear to the 13085 07:30:56,569 --> 07:30:57,570 court that the defendant has no 13086 07:30:57,570 --> 07:30:58,371 interest or had no interest in 13087 07:30:58,371 --> 07:30:59,339 remedying the situation except 13088 07:30:59,339 --> 07:31:00,206 to violating and accepting rent 13089 07:31:00,206 --> 07:31:01,541 for the trucks and violating 13090 07:31:01,541 --> 07:31:02,208 the counties requirements and 13091 07:31:02,208 --> 07:31:04,608 her own agreement. From 2019 13092 07:31:05,878 --> 07:31:06,980 by the way which is the time 13093 07:31:06,980 --> 07:31:07,781 and 2021 entered an agreement 13094 07:31:07,781 --> 07:31:10,781 still do not comply. Again 13095 07:31:22,430 --> 07:31:23,464 quoting the judge that the 13096 07:31:23,464 --> 07:31:24,465 defendant cannot take money to 13097 07:31:24,465 --> 07:31:25,465 illegal activity and simply 13098 07:31:25,465 --> 07:31:26,567 collecting the money while 13099 07:31:26,567 --> 07:31:27,434 continuing violations and claim 13100 07:31:27,434 --> 07:31:28,468 the defense in his is a 13101 07:31:28,468 --> 07:31:29,169 difficult situation and is in 13102 07:31:29,169 --> 07:31:30,103 compliance. I am not going to 13103 07:31:30,103 --> 07:31:31,500 get into the numbers that were 13104 07:31:31,500 --> 07:31:31,939 found because there was no 13105 07:31:31,939 --> 07:31:32,607 difficult situation for 13106 07:31:32,607 --> 07:31:33,473 payment. Except to say that 13107 07:31:33,473 --> 07:31:34,274 she seeks to continue contact 13108 07:31:34,274 --> 07:31:35,943 the collecting money so she has 13109 07:31:35,943 --> 07:31:38,846 no entry -- interest to follow 13110 07:31:38,846 --> 07:31:41,846 the rules. She denied the 13111 07:31:44,518 --> 07:31:45,453 county inspectors access in 13112 07:31:45,453 --> 07:31:47,853 AUGUST 2025 required that they 13113 07:31:51,259 --> 07:31:52,160 take pictures through a fence. 13114 07:31:52,160 --> 07:31:52,827 This is after numerous 13115 07:31:52,827 --> 07:31:53,628 violations. That does not 13116 07:31:53,628 --> 07:31:54,229 suggest someone who is 13117 07:31:54,229 --> 07:31:56,629 attempting to come into 13118 07:31:56,898 --> 07:31:57,798 compliance. That is suggesting 13119 07:31:57,798 --> 07:31:58,699 someone who is doing their part 13120 07:31:58,699 --> 07:31:59,833 to avoid compliance. She 13121 07:31:59,833 --> 07:32:00,434 failed to send a check for 5000 13122 07:32:00,434 --> 07:32:03,434 by JUNE 2025. She failed to 13123 07:32:09,476 --> 07:32:10,378 send a check for $1000 by JUNE 13124 07:32:10,378 --> 07:32:11,313 20 25. She failed to send a 13125 07:32:11,313 --> 07:32:12,948 $10,000 check to our er. She 13126 07:32:12,948 --> 07:32:16,548 allowed asphalt to be used as 13127 07:32:24,326 --> 07:32:24,993 unclean filled against wetland 13128 07:32:24,993 --> 07:32:25,794 requirements. All of these 13129 07:32:25,794 --> 07:32:26,794 violations into tightly are 13130 07:32:26,794 --> 07:32:27,795 clearly all of these are bio 13131 07:32:27,795 --> 07:32:29,640 relations in totality are 13132 07:32:29,640 --> 07:32:29,698 obviously made willfully. She 13133 07:32:29,698 --> 07:32:30,499 has the money and resources and 13134 07:32:30,499 --> 07:32:33,969 she showed no effort. She so 13135 07:32:33,969 --> 07:32:35,104 no interest in obstructing the 13136 07:32:35,104 --> 07:32:36,370 counties ability to investigate 13137 07:32:36,370 --> 07:32:39,370 and proceed. She has done 13138 07:32:39,874 --> 07:32:40,876 everything she could do to 13139 07:32:40,876 --> 07:32:41,611 delay as soon as possible. Of 13140 07:32:41,611 --> 07:32:44,611 course. The court assumes that 13141 07:32:45,181 --> 07:32:45,848 was to get this to the county 13142 07:32:45,848 --> 07:32:46,749 commission meeting where she 13143 07:32:46,749 --> 07:32:51,540 can make an attempt to do a run 13144 07:32:51,540 --> 07:32:51,721 around and that has now failed. 13145 07:32:51,721 --> 07:32:54,424 So this is not about david 13146 07:32:54,424 --> 07:32:55,124 versus goliath with all due 13147 07:32:55,124 --> 07:32:57,524 respect to my colleagues 13148 07:32:58,427 --> 07:32:59,128 senator garcia. This is about 13149 07:32:59,128 --> 07:33:02,320 people who have violated for 13150 07:33:02,320 --> 07:33:05,320 over seven years. Over seven 13151 07:33:09,572 --> 07:33:10,540 years. I wish laura reynolds 13152 07:33:10,540 --> 07:33:11,375 was here because she has not 13153 07:33:11,375 --> 07:33:14,975 talked about this young he has 13154 07:33:20,985 --> 07:33:22,190 talked about other projects. 13155 07:33:22,190 --> 07:33:22,653 In sensitive areas and laughed 13156 07:33:22,653 --> 07:33:23,454 at us and says no I'm not going 13157 07:33:23,454 --> 07:33:24,221 to do what you say. I'm not 13158 07:33:24,221 --> 07:33:25,155 going to let the inspectors in. 13159 07:33:25,155 --> 07:33:26,123 We spent hours and hours and 13160 07:33:26,123 --> 07:33:27,570 our attorneys have had to go to 13161 07:33:27,570 --> 07:33:27,757 try to make them comply. But 13162 07:33:27,757 --> 07:33:29,726 this is about, I'm sorry this 13163 07:33:29,726 --> 07:33:30,593 is about changing the rules. 13164 07:33:30,593 --> 07:33:32,296 This is not about equity. It 13165 07:33:32,296 --> 07:33:35,896 is not about justice. It was 13166 07:33:37,334 --> 07:33:38,302 it would be a different story. 13167 07:33:38,302 --> 07:33:41,902 The quality of life of the 13168 07:33:41,939 --> 07:33:42,974 people in this county was one 13169 07:33:42,974 --> 07:33:43,640 of and I was not here when some 13170 07:33:43,640 --> 07:33:44,441 of these changes were made. I 13171 07:33:44,441 --> 07:33:45,810 believe it was 10 acres. And 13172 07:33:45,810 --> 07:33:49,410 the bottom line is whether it 13173 07:33:49,813 --> 07:33:51,783 was 10 acres or four or 15 13174 07:33:51,783 --> 07:33:55,383 whatever number it is there is 13175 07:34:03,761 --> 07:34:04,629 no way in this world that some 13176 07:34:04,629 --> 07:34:05,597 of you would stay silent and 13177 07:34:05,597 --> 07:34:06,264 said okay this is a great 13178 07:34:06,264 --> 07:34:07,232 runaround on our rules and 13179 07:34:07,232 --> 07:34:08,990 laws. Because this is what it 13180 07:34:08,990 --> 07:34:08,733 is. This is what it is so 13181 07:34:08,733 --> 07:34:09,600 everybody is going to come 13182 07:34:09,600 --> 07:34:13,200 around and say, at this point 13183 07:34:15,173 --> 07:34:16,107 if we are going to amend this, 13184 07:34:16,107 --> 07:34:18,943 I'm not going to get into the 13185 07:34:18,943 --> 07:34:19,777 fact that it is in my district. 13186 07:34:19,777 --> 07:34:23,377 I am the one impacted. The 13187 07:34:24,449 --> 07:34:25,117 easiest thing for me is to be 13188 07:34:25,117 --> 07:34:26,418 is to go along to get along. 13189 07:34:26,418 --> 07:34:28,954 Like I said the other day when 13190 07:34:28,954 --> 07:34:31,354 commissioner gilbert we were 13191 07:34:35,600 --> 07:34:35,994 saying the early goodbye to him 13192 07:34:35,994 --> 07:34:36,595 when we honored him the other 13193 07:34:36,595 --> 07:34:40,598 day. I don't go along to get 13194 07:34:40,598 --> 07:34:41,467 along. I don't go along to get 13195 07:34:41,467 --> 07:34:42,969 along. Because this is not 13196 07:34:42,969 --> 07:34:45,104 about fairness and justice. 13197 07:34:45,104 --> 07:34:46,438 Think of the message you guys 13198 07:34:46,438 --> 07:34:50,380 will be sending. Think of the 13199 07:34:51,844 --> 07:34:52,812 message, he looks good on that 13200 07:34:52,812 --> 07:34:57,120 one. The bottom line is if you 13201 07:35:00,754 --> 07:35:01,655 want to -- listen. We're going 13202 07:35:01,655 --> 07:35:02,689 to end up on whatever that is. 13203 07:35:02,689 --> 07:35:05,658 I'm going to tell you right now 13204 07:35:05,658 --> 07:35:08,427 if we do this, we are sending 13205 07:35:08,427 --> 07:35:09,795 the wrong message to the people 13206 07:35:09,795 --> 07:35:12,732 of this county. Break the 13207 07:35:12,732 --> 07:35:15,635 rules, break the laws and you 13208 07:35:15,635 --> 07:35:16,536 can get away with it. Again, I 13209 07:35:16,536 --> 07:35:20,206 hope and I guess they are all 13210 07:35:20,206 --> 07:35:23,206 gone because after all, guess 13211 07:35:24,711 --> 07:35:25,679 they're all gone. The wetlands 13212 07:35:25,679 --> 07:35:28,679 is apparently I don't know 13213 07:35:32,653 --> 07:35:33,787 maybe I will have to find out 13214 07:35:33,787 --> 07:35:34,688 what the everglades foundation 13215 07:35:34,688 --> 07:35:35,622 defined as wetlands. You have 13216 07:35:35,622 --> 07:35:38,392 somebody who is violating our 13217 07:35:38,392 --> 07:35:39,226 wetlands and violating the 13218 07:35:39,226 --> 07:35:42,226 rules taken our attorneys time. 13219 07:35:43,598 --> 07:35:44,532 Denying our code compliance, 13220 07:35:44,532 --> 07:35:45,499 our officers from going in and 13221 07:35:45,499 --> 07:35:48,499 taking the pictures. And we're 13222 07:35:48,769 --> 07:35:51,372 going to say, okay, yes. There 13223 07:35:51,372 --> 07:35:53,641 was a movie maybe before some 13224 07:35:53,641 --> 07:35:57,841 of your time but it is about 13225 07:35:58,712 --> 07:35:59,413 vietnam called apocalypse now. 13226 07:35:59,413 --> 07:36:03,130 The guy says oh the horror. 13227 07:36:04,285 --> 07:36:05,320 When I said, the horror. In my 13228 07:36:05,320 --> 07:36:06,854 district with all due respect 13229 07:36:06,854 --> 07:36:10,454 somebody comes in and says this 13230 07:36:21,202 --> 07:36:22,700 is going to be it is about 13231 07:36:22,700 --> 07:36:22,738 equity and david versus 13232 07:36:22,738 --> 07:36:23,405 goliath. It is not about david 13233 07:36:23,405 --> 07:36:24,306 versus goliath, it is about the 13234 07:36:24,306 --> 07:36:25,206 right and wrong thing. What is 13235 07:36:25,206 --> 07:36:25,874 right is right and what is 13236 07:36:25,874 --> 07:36:26,808 wrong is wrong. If you guys 13237 07:36:26,808 --> 07:36:27,709 want to change that is fine. 13238 07:36:27,709 --> 07:36:31,130 But I am voting no, no and 13239 07:36:31,130 --> 07:36:31,981 double no. You will forever 13240 07:36:31,981 --> 07:36:32,715 make sure that the attorneys to 13241 07:36:32,715 --> 07:36:33,782 represent us will never be able 13242 07:36:33,782 --> 07:36:34,716 to enforce some of these 13243 07:36:34,716 --> 07:36:36,351 things. Because the excuse is 13244 07:36:36,351 --> 07:36:37,190 always going to be the same. 13245 07:36:37,190 --> 07:36:40,321 I'm just going to figure out a 13246 07:36:40,321 --> 07:36:41,523 way around it. Through changes 13247 07:36:41,523 --> 07:36:44,523 of the county commissions. And 13248 07:36:46,395 --> 07:36:47,362 that to me is not the reason I 13249 07:36:47,362 --> 07:36:48,330 was elected. Again, if it was 13250 07:36:48,330 --> 07:36:49,598 fairness and equity I will be 13251 07:36:49,598 --> 07:36:53,198 more than happy to say yes. 13252 07:37:00,710 --> 07:37:03,450 But it is not. It just doesn't 13253 07:37:03,450 --> 07:37:03,212 make any sense and on this one 13254 07:37:03,212 --> 07:37:05,212 -- 13255 07:37:05,748 --> 07:37:07,748 >> commissioner steinberg was 13256 07:37:09,885 --> 07:37:11,421 wondering if you were a yes, or 13257 07:37:11,421 --> 07:37:15,210 a no on this one. [Laughter] 13258 07:37:19,280 --> 07:37:19,729 What did you say? It is 13259 07:37:19,729 --> 07:37:22,466 getting late it is going to be 13260 07:37:22,466 --> 07:37:23,766 almost 4:00 pm. I understand 13261 07:37:23,766 --> 07:37:25,680 and I'm going to recognize my 13262 07:37:25,680 --> 07:37:26,303 colleagues to speak of course. 13263 07:37:26,303 --> 07:37:29,903 I'm sure senator garcia want to 13264 07:37:32,242 --> 07:37:36,442 speak at the end. First of all 13265 07:37:38,815 --> 07:37:39,716 I understand what you're saying 13266 07:37:39,716 --> 07:37:40,350 commissioner bermudez and I 13267 07:37:40,350 --> 07:37:41,185 agree with a lot of it. I 13268 07:37:41,185 --> 07:37:45,385 think I am not here to defend 13269 07:37:48,258 --> 07:37:50,260 senator garcia area we -- . I 13270 07:37:50,260 --> 07:37:52,660 think people circumventing and 13271 07:37:54,765 --> 07:37:55,466 coming to us they're never 13272 07:37:55,466 --> 07:37:56,333 going to stop that. That is 13273 07:37:56,333 --> 07:38:00,403 what the body is here for her 13274 07:38:00,403 --> 07:38:01,720 to legislate. The district 13275 07:38:01,720 --> 07:38:01,706 thing, can see that and I can 13276 07:38:01,706 --> 07:38:05,306 also see the argument of this 13277 07:38:14,986 --> 07:38:15,720 is a countywide issue or some 13278 07:38:15,720 --> 07:38:16,621 dialogue should have happened. 13279 07:38:16,621 --> 07:38:20,221 The wetlands and all that good 13280 07:38:21,226 --> 07:38:21,860 stuff so let's go to 13281 07:38:21,860 --> 07:38:22,894 commissioner regalado. 13282 07:38:22,894 --> 07:38:23,662 >> thank you MR. Chair. I'm 13283 07:38:23,662 --> 07:38:27,164 going to echo some of my 13284 07:38:27,164 --> 07:38:28,165 colleagues points. I 13285 07:38:28,165 --> 07:38:30,565 appreciate persistence and you 13286 07:38:30,936 --> 07:38:31,837 brought this items many many 13287 07:38:31,837 --> 07:38:32,705 times. The last time he came 13288 07:38:32,705 --> 07:38:36,305 before us we brought up the 13289 07:38:38,209 --> 07:38:39,110 point that this particular that 13290 07:38:39,110 --> 07:38:39,778 this was being moved by 13291 07:38:39,778 --> 07:38:40,612 particular actor. And that 13292 07:38:40,612 --> 07:38:41,347 this actor had a series of 13293 07:38:41,347 --> 07:38:42,615 violations. Since then we have 13294 07:38:42,615 --> 07:38:45,615 a lot more information. This 13295 07:38:47,886 --> 07:38:48,920 is a particularly egregious 13296 07:38:48,920 --> 07:38:49,855 case. The county commission 13297 07:38:49,855 --> 07:38:51,424 spent a lot of time with staff 13298 07:38:51,424 --> 07:38:52,491 stamps in the room and that 13299 07:38:52,491 --> 07:38:53,626 rule establishes a particular 13300 07:38:53,626 --> 07:38:56,626 acreage. And also other rules 13301 07:39:01,202 --> 07:39:02,135 that have to be followed. 13302 07:39:02,135 --> 07:39:03,360 People have paid a lot of money 13303 07:39:03,360 --> 07:39:03,703 and going through a very 13304 07:39:03,703 --> 07:39:04,537 complex process in order to 13305 07:39:04,537 --> 07:39:05,538 have truck parking. Now we 13306 07:39:05,538 --> 07:39:08,400 have this one particular bad 13307 07:39:08,400 --> 07:39:11,400 actor and my favorite quote 13308 07:39:12,479 --> 07:39:13,120 from the judge is, that in this 13309 07:39:13,120 --> 07:39:13,980 case the defendant is 13310 07:39:13,980 --> 07:39:16,448 attempting to change the law 13311 07:39:16,448 --> 07:39:17,383 instead of her conduct. I 13312 07:39:17,383 --> 07:39:18,117 really think that is what this 13313 07:39:18,117 --> 07:39:22,317 is about. This is a bad actor 13314 07:39:25,225 --> 07:39:25,859 who has time and time and time 13315 07:39:25,859 --> 07:39:26,726 again violated our wetland 13316 07:39:26,726 --> 07:39:29,726 rules. When we talk about 13317 07:39:30,263 --> 07:39:30,864 wetlands I will say this, it is 13318 07:39:30,864 --> 07:39:31,731 important because it impacts 13319 07:39:31,731 --> 07:39:35,331 the OCTOBER water line. It is 13320 07:39:36,403 --> 07:39:37,337 important because this type of 13321 07:39:37,337 --> 07:39:38,400 complete and total blatant 13322 07:39:38,400 --> 07:39:40,339 disregard for what should be 13323 07:39:40,339 --> 07:39:43,339 happening in that area, it 13324 07:39:52,620 --> 07:39:53,420 hurts our water. I understand 13325 07:39:53,420 --> 07:39:54,121 they MAY not agree with the 13326 07:39:54,121 --> 07:39:55,122 decision that was made. But a 13327 07:39:55,122 --> 07:39:56,560 lot of people are complying. 13328 07:39:56,560 --> 07:39:56,990 Why can't this person comply? 13329 07:39:56,990 --> 07:39:57,891 What we are doing here is not 13330 07:39:57,891 --> 07:39:59,793 only giving a bad actor a 13331 07:39:59,793 --> 07:40:00,661 windfall, we are changing this 13332 07:40:00,661 --> 07:40:04,261 for no reason. Because we have 13333 07:40:16,544 --> 07:40:17,478 yet to determine other than 13334 07:40:17,478 --> 07:40:18,312 this particular person is short 13335 07:40:18,312 --> 07:40:19,120 and acre. What the reason is 13336 07:40:19,120 --> 07:40:20,140 for changing the rules? In 13337 07:40:20,140 --> 07:40:20,949 fact the rules were established 13338 07:40:20,949 --> 07:40:21,983 because of the turning radius 13339 07:40:21,983 --> 07:40:22,817 and the importance of having a 13340 07:40:22,817 --> 07:40:23,518 particular size in order for 13341 07:40:23,518 --> 07:40:24,286 those trucks to be able to get 13342 07:40:24,286 --> 07:40:25,860 in and out. It wasn't an 13343 07:40:25,860 --> 07:40:25,787 arbitrary decision. It was a 13344 07:40:25,787 --> 07:40:26,821 decision that was bought out 13345 07:40:26,821 --> 07:40:27,355 and made with the industry. 13346 07:40:27,355 --> 07:40:28,220 And of course when that 13347 07:40:28,220 --> 07:40:29,324 decision was made there were 13348 07:40:29,324 --> 07:40:29,957 people left out. And that 13349 07:40:29,957 --> 07:40:32,957 always happens. So while i 13350 07:40:33,195 --> 07:40:34,128 understand the chairs point 13351 07:40:34,128 --> 07:40:35,630 people are coming to change the 13352 07:40:35,630 --> 07:40:36,670 rules there's always got to be 13353 07:40:36,670 --> 07:40:37,331 someone that is left out of a 13354 07:40:37,331 --> 07:40:40,331 regulation. And in this case 13355 07:40:41,937 --> 07:40:42,871 it is not just one left out of 13356 07:40:42,871 --> 07:40:46,471 a regulation and they want to 13357 07:40:49,210 --> 07:40:49,845 artificially do their property 13358 07:40:49,845 --> 07:40:50,813 value this is a bad actor. 13359 07:40:50,813 --> 07:40:51,747 Just on that point I hope that 13360 07:40:51,747 --> 07:40:53,716 this is the last time we get 13361 07:40:53,716 --> 07:40:54,416 this item. Because it is 13362 07:40:54,416 --> 07:40:57,416 absurd. There are other people 13363 07:40:59,788 --> 07:41:00,757 that are doing a better job. 13364 07:41:00,757 --> 07:41:01,457 Durham works very hard and so 13365 07:41:01,457 --> 07:41:02,391 does our er. The fact that we 13366 07:41:02,391 --> 07:41:03,259 keep bringing this up in trying 13367 07:41:03,259 --> 07:41:06,259 to allow this person to 13368 07:41:06,295 --> 07:41:07,290 monetize their abuse of the 13369 07:41:07,290 --> 07:41:10,629 system it's always going to be 13370 07:41:17,206 --> 07:41:21,378 a no for me on this one. 13371 07:41:21,378 --> 07:41:24,378 >> if I MAY? Appreciate the 13372 07:41:28,885 --> 07:41:29,885 comments and concerns and 13373 07:41:29,885 --> 07:41:30,854 commissioner bermudez you are 13374 07:41:30,854 --> 07:41:31,555 not far off. In your district 13375 07:41:31,555 --> 07:41:32,422 absolutely there is a lot of 13376 07:41:32,422 --> 07:41:35,422 illegal parking. There is a 13377 07:41:44,534 --> 07:41:45,302 lot of agree -- you have 13378 07:41:45,302 --> 07:41:46,336 trucking and parking that is 13379 07:41:46,336 --> 07:41:47,700 out there. You have the rock 13380 07:41:47,700 --> 07:41:48,710 miners that are out there. 13381 07:41:48,710 --> 07:41:48,738 With so when we talk about 13382 07:41:48,738 --> 07:41:49,539 wetlands, you can't talk about 13383 07:41:49,539 --> 07:41:50,540 picking and choosing what 13384 07:41:50,540 --> 07:41:51,142 wetlands are good and what 13385 07:41:51,142 --> 07:41:51,876 wetlands are not. These are 13386 07:41:51,876 --> 07:41:54,276 between two properties. Two 13387 07:41:56,212 --> 07:41:58,612 properties that are designated 13388 07:41:58,949 --> 07:42:00,350 but they have not been able to 13389 07:42:00,350 --> 07:42:03,350 meet the 10 acreage lot. The 13390 07:42:04,855 --> 07:42:05,756 whole thing the whole genesis 13391 07:42:05,756 --> 07:42:09,956 of this is not just about one 13392 07:42:10,695 --> 07:42:11,629 individual. I like how we try 13393 07:42:11,629 --> 07:42:12,363 to make this about one 13394 07:42:12,363 --> 07:42:13,970 individuals. They are the ones 13395 07:42:13,970 --> 07:42:14,131 that brought this to me 13396 07:42:14,131 --> 07:42:17,731 absolutely. But it is not just 13397 07:42:18,669 --> 07:42:19,603 because of their failure to 13398 07:42:19,603 --> 07:42:20,370 comply. The reality is that we 13399 07:42:20,370 --> 07:42:21,106 have a report before us that 13400 07:42:21,106 --> 07:42:22,974 says we need more truck 13401 07:42:22,974 --> 07:42:23,908 parking. We brought the 13402 07:42:23,908 --> 07:42:25,430 resolution and I brought an 13403 07:42:25,430 --> 07:42:26,440 item before us and we 13404 07:42:26,440 --> 07:42:28,440 bifurcated and commissioner 13405 07:42:28,880 --> 07:42:29,747 rodriguez made a motion to 13406 07:42:29,747 --> 07:42:32,747 separate both items because we 13407 07:42:33,185 --> 07:42:34,152 do need more truck parking area 13408 07:42:34,152 --> 07:42:38,352 and now what I have been able 13409 07:42:45,464 --> 07:42:49,640 to do based on suggestions -- 13410 07:42:55,808 --> 07:42:56,542 we are good and you win. The 13411 07:42:56,542 --> 07:42:57,509 realities is that we need more 13412 07:42:57,509 --> 07:42:58,310 truck parking in his community. 13413 07:42:58,310 --> 07:42:59,440 We do need it. The truck 13414 07:42:59,440 --> 07:42:59,878 parking just make sure we have 13415 07:42:59,878 --> 07:43:02,248 the people that live in my 13416 07:43:02,248 --> 07:43:03,150 district. The people that live 13417 07:43:03,150 --> 07:43:03,949 in your district and the people 13418 07:43:03,949 --> 07:43:05,251 that live in our district to 13419 07:43:05,251 --> 07:43:05,985 make sure they can afford truck 13420 07:43:05,985 --> 07:43:06,986 parking. We have truck parking 13421 07:43:06,986 --> 07:43:09,388 that are huge. It is going to 13422 07:43:09,388 --> 07:43:12,988 cost more money to park their 13423 07:43:20,990 --> 07:43:21,100 trucks. I do agree with you 13424 07:43:21,100 --> 07:43:21,968 that he should have come into 13425 07:43:21,968 --> 07:43:22,502 compliance and that is why did 13426 07:43:22,502 --> 07:43:23,436 look into it. They have 13427 07:43:23,436 --> 07:43:24,136 removed the asphalt and they 13428 07:43:24,136 --> 07:43:25,104 have removed the trucks. They 13429 07:43:25,104 --> 07:43:25,938 are doing a water retention. 13430 07:43:25,938 --> 07:43:27,240 That is one parcel. The 13431 07:43:27,240 --> 07:43:27,973 reality is that we need more. 13432 07:43:27,973 --> 07:43:30,977 What we look at the study and 13433 07:43:30,977 --> 07:43:31,978 when we look at some of the 13434 07:43:31,978 --> 07:43:34,978 comments that were made, we 13435 07:43:37,784 --> 07:43:38,685 don't need them anymore. You 13436 07:43:38,685 --> 07:43:39,752 know why we don't need any more 13437 07:43:39,752 --> 07:43:40,419 truck parking because it is the 13438 07:43:40,419 --> 07:43:41,488 big guys that are out there. 13439 07:43:41,488 --> 07:43:42,289 All these big facilities that 13440 07:43:42,289 --> 07:43:43,223 are investing the money and 13441 07:43:43,223 --> 07:43:43,957 they do not want to do it over 13442 07:43:43,957 --> 07:43:47,557 here. All of us every single 13443 07:43:49,495 --> 07:43:50,430 one of us has been lobbied by 13444 07:43:50,430 --> 07:43:51,465 one side. Because they have 13445 07:43:51,465 --> 07:43:54,465 the money. They have the 13446 07:43:56,837 --> 07:43:57,604 lobbyist. That is what they 13447 07:43:57,604 --> 07:43:58,872 have. But the reality is when 13448 07:43:58,872 --> 07:44:01,309 we look at the study when we 13449 07:44:01,309 --> 07:44:02,176 look and by the way the people 13450 07:44:02,176 --> 07:44:05,176 that are lobbying are my 13451 07:44:06,179 --> 07:44:07,181 friends too. But is trying to 13452 07:44:07,181 --> 07:44:07,814 figure out how do we make this 13453 07:44:07,814 --> 07:44:08,682 happen? How do we make it 13454 07:44:08,682 --> 07:44:10,918 work? The reality is this 13455 07:44:10,918 --> 07:44:14,518 study right here the result in 13456 07:44:16,557 --> 07:44:18,957 truck parking can accommodate 2 13457 07:44:32,207 --> 07:44:33,208 acres per site. It has been, 13458 07:44:33,208 --> 07:44:33,842 all you need is 2 acres. It is 13459 07:44:33,842 --> 07:44:34,642 facilitated folks. I get the 13460 07:44:34,642 --> 07:44:35,510 arguments that you're making 13461 07:44:35,510 --> 07:44:39,710 but the reality is that this is 13462 07:44:41,984 --> 07:44:42,684 a david against goliath. When 13463 07:44:42,684 --> 07:44:44,686 we look at the arguments that 13464 07:44:44,686 --> 07:44:45,687 have been made, we don't need 13465 07:44:45,687 --> 07:44:49,287 to do this. We are giving 13466 07:44:53,629 --> 07:44:54,363 someone special protection. We 13467 07:44:54,363 --> 07:44:55,296 do it all the time and we bring 13468 07:44:55,296 --> 07:44:56,131 a variance to the board. Every 13469 07:44:56,131 --> 07:44:57,650 time we bring a variance to 13470 07:44:57,650 --> 07:44:58,330 board we are giving somebody a 13471 07:44:58,330 --> 07:44:58,667 favor or doing a favor for 13472 07:44:58,667 --> 07:45:01,667 someone. That is exactly what 13473 07:45:07,609 --> 07:45:08,544 it is. I know we have been 13474 07:45:08,544 --> 07:45:09,177 lobbied on this. I get it. I 13475 07:45:09,177 --> 07:45:10,450 get the issue. But it is a 13476 07:45:10,450 --> 07:45:10,779 conscious decision we have to 13477 07:45:10,779 --> 07:45:12,480 make on this. It is whether or 13478 07:45:12,480 --> 07:45:14,251 not to we go ahead and try to 13479 07:45:14,251 --> 07:45:15,117 help? Bermudez is absolutely 13480 07:45:15,117 --> 07:45:17,860 right. They have come back and 13481 07:45:17,860 --> 07:45:17,786 they brought compliance to the 13482 07:45:17,786 --> 07:45:18,620 property. And just remember 13483 07:45:18,620 --> 07:45:22,220 the people that we have out 13484 07:45:24,827 --> 07:45:25,528 there, we have one to the left 13485 07:45:25,528 --> 07:45:26,662 and maybe we have rock miners 13486 07:45:26,662 --> 07:45:27,129 to write. It is simple as 13487 07:45:27,129 --> 07:45:29,331 that. So to use the 13488 07:45:29,331 --> 07:45:30,232 environment to issues when we 13489 07:45:30,232 --> 07:45:32,369 see all these things that are 13490 07:45:32,369 --> 07:45:36,569 happening out there it is a red 13491 07:45:37,907 --> 07:45:38,875 herring. MR. CHAIRMAN I ask 13492 07:45:38,875 --> 07:45:41,875 for your consideration and your 13493 07:45:44,981 --> 07:45:45,882 indulgence. I am bringing this 13494 07:45:45,882 --> 07:45:46,583 item before this board and at 13495 07:45:46,583 --> 07:45:47,484 the end of the day we do need 13496 07:45:47,484 --> 07:45:50,486 and want to reiterate the part 13497 07:45:50,486 --> 07:45:51,288 about the truck parking. We 13498 07:45:51,288 --> 07:45:52,220 need more truck parking as 13499 07:45:52,220 --> 07:45:53,123 simple as that. If we can help 13500 07:45:53,123 --> 07:45:54,240 this group come into compliance 13501 07:45:54,240 --> 07:45:56,693 and we can help them with this 13502 07:45:56,693 --> 07:45:57,427 for this legislation it would 13503 07:45:57,427 --> 07:45:58,295 increase and it is not changing 13504 07:45:58,295 --> 07:46:01,295 the law about the 10 acres. 13505 07:46:01,999 --> 07:46:02,933 All we are doing is asking. We 13506 07:46:02,933 --> 07:46:04,335 are bringing this one person 13507 07:46:04,335 --> 07:46:05,169 into it but the reality what we 13508 07:46:05,169 --> 07:46:08,538 are doing with this is saying 13509 07:46:08,538 --> 07:46:09,239 it is 10 acres. Let's give the 13510 07:46:09,239 --> 07:46:11,239 administration sums flexibility 13511 07:46:14,545 --> 07:46:15,346 as to how we meet the 10 acres. 13512 07:46:15,346 --> 07:46:19,283 At least one parcel has to be 13513 07:46:19,283 --> 07:46:22,283 at least 4 acres. MR. CHAIRMAN 13514 07:46:26,230 --> 07:46:26,957 I asked for the vote. 13515 07:46:26,957 --> 07:46:27,725 >> I have a question but that 13516 07:46:27,725 --> 07:46:31,262 is fine. All in favor signify 13517 07:46:31,262 --> 07:46:34,862 by saying aye. All oppose nay. 13518 07:46:43,541 --> 07:46:44,509 Can I get a roll call vote? I 13519 07:46:44,509 --> 07:46:45,210 have a question but I refrained 13520 07:46:45,210 --> 07:46:46,111 from asking. Do you really 13521 07:46:46,111 --> 07:46:47,278 want to ask because then I want 13522 07:46:47,278 --> 07:46:50,878 to ask? Roll call please? I'm 13523 07:46:52,150 --> 07:46:52,618 sorry? Can you just do the 13524 07:46:52,618 --> 07:46:54,618 roll call? 13525 07:46:56,421 --> 07:46:57,856 >> commissioner gilbert, no. 13526 07:46:57,856 --> 07:46:59,856 >> commissioner gonzales, no. 13527 07:47:00,926 --> 07:47:02,926 >> commissioner lopez, no. 13528 07:47:04,530 --> 07:47:06,530 >> commissioner, no. 13529 07:47:09,901 --> 07:47:11,901 >> commissioner, no. 13530 07:47:14,400 --> 07:47:15,441 >> commissioner bermudez, 13531 07:47:15,441 --> 07:47:17,441 note. 13532 07:47:18,343 --> 07:47:20,343 >> commissioner cohen higgins, 13533 07:47:24,484 --> 07:47:26,884 no bikes senator -- 13534 07:47:35,895 --> 07:47:36,629 >> senator garcia, no but I 13535 07:47:36,629 --> 07:47:39,629 need a second to reconsider. 13536 07:47:41,134 --> 07:47:41,334 >> no, that is what you should 13537 07:47:41,334 --> 07:47:42,202 do. 13538 07:47:42,202 --> 07:47:43,537 >> I am going to vote yes. 13539 07:47:43,537 --> 07:47:44,537 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I do not want 13540 07:47:44,537 --> 07:47:46,239 him to be alone. I can vote 13541 07:47:46,239 --> 07:47:48,239 yes. 13542 07:47:49,809 --> 07:47:53,409 >> I am going to support him 13543 07:47:54,414 --> 07:47:55,415 just to not leave him alone. 13544 07:47:55,415 --> 07:47:56,416 Don't give me the mean mug face 13545 07:47:56,416 --> 07:47:57,583 commissioner bermudez. I am 13546 07:47:57,583 --> 07:47:59,719 going to support my colleague 13547 07:47:59,719 --> 07:48:04,519 so he will not be the only yes. 13548 07:48:05,525 --> 07:48:07,525 >> vice chair mcghee. 13549 07:48:09,296 --> 07:48:12,896 >> you vote yes, sir no i 13550 07:48:13,300 --> 07:48:14,335 don't take it personal. It is 13551 07:48:14,335 --> 07:48:17,935 just the same what is happening 13552 07:48:21,942 --> 07:48:26,142 here but it is what it is. 13553 07:48:26,881 --> 07:48:27,815 >> you can record me as, yes. 13554 07:48:27,815 --> 07:48:32,150 I will tell you why, I don't 13555 07:48:32,287 --> 07:48:32,820 necessarily agree with you. 13556 07:48:32,820 --> 07:48:33,254 Renc 13557 07:48:33,254 --> 07:48:34,255 your argument that a 13558 07:48:34,255 --> 07:48:36,900 variance is basically doing a 13559 07:48:36,900 --> 07:48:38,625 favor for someone that deviates 13560 07:48:38,625 --> 07:48:42,225 from the rule I never thought 13561 07:48:44,650 --> 07:48:44,933 about it like that. That is 13562 07:48:44,933 --> 07:48:46,367 true you all. Every time we 13563 07:48:46,367 --> 07:48:49,170 grant a variance we are 13564 07:48:49,170 --> 07:48:51,570 allowing someone an exception 13565 07:48:53,875 --> 07:48:57,712 to the rule. Rule that we have 13566 07:48:57,712 --> 07:48:58,680 established is the best policy 13567 07:48:58,680 --> 07:48:59,614 for the county. And so I don't 13568 07:48:59,614 --> 07:49:01,650 necessarily agree with this 13569 07:49:01,650 --> 07:49:03,180 project and I don't agree with 13570 07:49:03,180 --> 07:49:06,618 you doing it in his district. 13571 07:49:11,226 --> 07:49:12,128 I don't agree with that. That 13572 07:49:12,128 --> 07:49:12,828 was probably the best argument 13573 07:49:12,828 --> 07:49:13,829 you have ever made in support 13574 07:49:13,829 --> 07:49:15,331 of something. [Laughter] 13575 07:49:15,331 --> 07:49:18,133 That was amazing. It was 13576 07:49:18,133 --> 07:49:19,101 amazing. Like it was amazing, 13577 07:49:19,101 --> 07:49:20,803 senator it was amazing. It was 13578 07:49:20,803 --> 07:49:23,803 really good. It was profound 13579 07:49:27,676 --> 07:49:28,543 and it was true. When I was 13580 07:49:28,543 --> 07:49:29,211 going to ask question I was 13581 07:49:29,211 --> 07:49:30,780 actually going to talk about 13582 07:49:30,780 --> 07:49:32,748 the comments that you were 13583 07:49:32,748 --> 07:49:33,416 making. 13584 07:49:33,416 --> 07:49:34,383 >> they can't go through 13585 07:49:34,383 --> 07:49:35,284 variance because in a variance 13586 07:49:35,284 --> 07:49:36,352 you are following the law. You 13587 07:49:36,352 --> 07:49:36,919 are asking us after you follow 13588 07:49:36,919 --> 07:49:38,654 the law and you pay and you 13589 07:49:38,654 --> 07:49:41,624 come to a hearing that is what 13590 07:49:41,624 --> 07:49:43,624 you do. 13591 07:49:45,962 --> 07:49:47,962 >> after-the-fact permitting. 13592 07:49:50,299 --> 07:49:52,699 We do after-the-fact permitting 13593 07:49:53,637 --> 07:49:54,337 so my point is that it is not 13594 07:49:54,337 --> 07:49:55,238 something. First of all I 13595 07:49:55,238 --> 07:49:57,173 think this is a bad actor so we 13596 07:49:57,173 --> 07:49:58,474 should not reward this level of 13597 07:49:58,474 --> 07:50:01,144 bad acting. As a effect that 13598 07:50:01,144 --> 07:50:03,480 is horrible. This isn't 13599 07:50:03,480 --> 07:50:04,514 something that is beyond the 13600 07:50:04,514 --> 07:50:08,114 scope of something that we have 13601 07:50:09,853 --> 07:50:10,720 done previously. So I do not 13602 07:50:10,720 --> 07:50:11,588 want it to seem like we have 13603 07:50:11,588 --> 07:50:12,623 never done anything like that 13604 07:50:12,623 --> 07:50:16,223 before. Oh yes we have. Yes, 13605 07:50:18,328 --> 07:50:21,865 we have. I am comfortable with 13606 07:50:21,865 --> 07:50:24,265 the results. Very good 13607 07:50:26,770 --> 07:50:29,770 argument though. Hold on. I 13608 07:50:30,775 --> 07:50:31,308 don't remember anything I said 13609 07:50:31,308 --> 07:50:33,708 before, yes we have. 13610 07:50:38,215 --> 07:50:39,250 [Laughter] 13611 07:50:39,250 --> 07:50:39,950 >> I am going to look that up 13612 07:50:39,950 --> 07:50:40,752 because we have to go back to 13613 07:50:40,752 --> 07:50:42,287 2019 to see how many people 13614 07:50:42,287 --> 07:50:43,387 broken rule. 13615 07:50:43,387 --> 07:50:45,787 >> please continue with the 13616 07:50:46,624 --> 07:50:49,293 roll call. Please record is a 13617 07:50:49,293 --> 07:50:51,293 yes. 13618 07:50:52,864 --> 07:50:54,665 >> motion fails 4/8. You 13619 07:50:54,665 --> 07:50:57,535 mentioned that you were a yes. 13620 07:50:57,535 --> 07:51:01,135 >> you are on it, clerk. The 13621 07:51:02,241 --> 07:51:02,907 office is on it. I am going to 13622 07:51:02,907 --> 07:51:05,577 call him let him know his 13623 07:51:05,577 --> 07:51:09,177 office is on it. Motion fails 13624 07:51:10,415 --> 07:51:11,417 but you got more yea than you 13625 07:51:11,417 --> 07:51:13,417 thought. Congratulations or 13626 07:51:21,794 --> 07:51:22,795 whatever. Commissioner from 13627 07:51:22,795 --> 07:51:25,195 district h? Commissioner from 13628 07:51:26,799 --> 07:51:28,799 district 8 on 8 on 1484. 13629 07:51:29,467 --> 07:51:31,467 Housing. 13630 07:51:33,139 --> 07:51:36,420 >> I think this is an 13631 07:51:36,420 --> 07:51:38,442 extension, no? To the 13632 07:51:40,713 --> 07:51:44,313 attorneys did we just passed an 13633 07:51:46,219 --> 07:51:48,821 item on limiting the extensions 13634 07:51:48,821 --> 07:51:49,555 back this seems to be in direct 13635 07:51:49,555 --> 07:51:51,791 contradiction to the ordinance 13636 07:51:51,791 --> 07:51:54,791 that we just past regarding 13637 07:51:58,300 --> 07:52:00,199 extensions on the housing 13638 07:52:00,199 --> 07:52:03,199 program. I think the original 13639 07:52:05,105 --> 07:52:06,500 allocation on this was 2019. I 13640 07:52:06,500 --> 07:52:07,674 could be wrong that is why am 13641 07:52:07,674 --> 07:52:09,674 asking the attorneys. 13642 07:52:11,145 --> 07:52:12,112 >> while she looks it up I 13643 07:52:12,112 --> 07:52:15,112 will say commissioner, yes I 13644 07:52:15,449 --> 07:52:16,116 believe it is as it pertained 13645 07:52:16,116 --> 07:52:19,116 to the ordinance we passed. 13646 07:52:21,220 --> 07:52:21,956 This was already in process 13647 07:52:21,956 --> 07:52:22,589 submitted to the system. It 13648 07:52:22,589 --> 07:52:23,590 was a whole system that we use. 13649 07:52:23,590 --> 07:52:27,790 This was in the process so that 13650 07:52:30,397 --> 07:52:31,990 is why I put it on the agenda. 13651 07:52:31,990 --> 07:52:31,432 Go ahead and ask and you can 13652 07:52:31,432 --> 07:52:32,467 answer. 13653 07:52:32,467 --> 07:52:33,401 >> yes, commissioner this was 13654 07:52:33,401 --> 07:52:35,703 originally submitted from the 13655 07:52:35,703 --> 07:52:36,470 mars committee. The ordinance 13656 07:52:36,470 --> 07:52:37,705 the past allows two extensions. 13657 07:52:37,705 --> 07:52:40,705 One year each. This particular 13658 07:52:45,980 --> 07:52:46,848 item would be the second 13659 07:52:46,848 --> 07:52:47,548 extension. But the first 13660 07:52:47,548 --> 07:52:48,382 extension was for two years and 13661 07:52:48,382 --> 07:52:48,616 this extension is for two 13662 07:52:48,616 --> 07:52:49,349 years. 13663 07:52:49,349 --> 07:52:50,251 >> when was the first 13664 07:52:50,251 --> 07:52:50,885 extension awarded on this 13665 07:52:50,885 --> 07:52:51,820 particular group of parcels? 13666 07:52:51,820 --> 07:52:53,688 >> the first extension for 13667 07:52:53,688 --> 07:52:56,688 this parcel was was JUNE 21, 13668 07:52:57,191 --> 07:52:58,126 2023 and expired in was JUNE 13669 07:52:58,126 --> 07:52:59,260 21, 2023 and expired in MARCH 13670 07:52:59,260 --> 07:53:02,260 27 of this year. And they 13671 07:53:06,133 --> 07:53:06,734 submitted the request prior to 13672 07:53:06,734 --> 07:53:07,340 that termination of that 13673 07:53:07,340 --> 07:53:09,340 extension. 13674 07:53:09,837 --> 07:53:10,704 > they submitted for the 13675 07:53:10,704 --> 07:53:12,973 second extension prior to the 13676 07:53:12,973 --> 07:53:13,673 first extension? 13677 07:53:13,673 --> 07:53:16,673 >> it wasn't due to expire 13678 07:53:17,430 --> 07:53:18,177 until MARCH? 13679 07:53:18,177 --> 07:53:18,945 >> it wasn't due to expire 13680 07:53:18,945 --> 07:53:21,345 until MARCH 2026 and they 13681 07:53:23,649 --> 07:53:24,417 submitted the request in 13682 07:53:24,417 --> 07:53:24,884 OCTOBER 2025. 13683 07:53:24,884 --> 07:53:25,484 >> thank you. 13684 07:53:25,484 --> 07:53:26,151 >> I have a motion by 13685 07:53:26,151 --> 07:53:28,551 commissioner, vice chair and 13686 07:53:30,756 --> 07:53:31,323 second by commissioner. 13687 07:53:31,323 --> 07:53:34,323 Signify by saying aye. All 13688 07:53:35,160 --> 07:53:37,696 opposed nay. District 7 I have 13689 07:53:37,696 --> 07:53:40,298 you on 14 82. In a separate 13690 07:53:40,298 --> 07:53:44,498 item I will call of the next 13691 07:53:58,150 --> 07:53:58,715 one. 14 82. ---- 14 a2. 13692 07:53:58,715 --> 07:54:02,315 >> I am happy to move it. 13693 07:54:06,255 --> 07:54:07,222 >> seconded by commissioner. 13694 07:54:07,222 --> 07:54:08,191 All in favor signify by saying 13695 07:54:08,191 --> 07:54:09,892 aye. All opposed nay. Show it 13696 07:54:09,892 --> 07:54:11,892 passed. 13697 07:54:13,610 --> 07:54:13,629 >> I wanted to say something. 13698 07:54:13,629 --> 07:54:14,530 I want to thank the 13699 07:54:14,530 --> 07:54:16,930 commissioner for bringing the 13700 07:54:20,635 --> 07:54:21,403 item. I know the friends of 13701 07:54:21,403 --> 07:54:22,204 leiden have been working hard 13702 07:54:22,204 --> 07:54:22,904 on this. I am glad to see 13703 07:54:22,904 --> 07:54:23,772 there is a path forward. The 13704 07:54:23,772 --> 07:54:25,390 only thing I would say it is 13705 07:54:25,390 --> 07:54:26,740 also in my district. I 13706 07:54:26,740 --> 07:54:28,276 appreciate that we are moving 13707 07:54:28,276 --> 07:54:32,313 it forward. I hope that we can 13708 07:54:32,313 --> 07:54:33,214 figure out a way to do it 13709 07:54:33,214 --> 07:54:35,614 together. I am little 13710 07:54:48,280 --> 07:54:48,695 concerned about parks doing it 13711 07:54:48,695 --> 07:54:49,596 and the timing. The hopefully 13712 07:54:49,596 --> 07:54:50,597 this will get it done. We have 13713 07:54:50,597 --> 07:54:51,464 been waiting for it for a long 13714 07:54:51,464 --> 07:54:52,165 time. One of the things that I 13715 07:54:52,165 --> 07:54:53,232 mentioned to the groups that I 13716 07:54:53,232 --> 07:54:54,166 met with is the underlying team 13717 07:54:54,166 --> 07:54:55,100 is going to be done in OCTOBER. 13718 07:54:55,100 --> 07:54:55,935 It would make a lot of sense to 13719 07:54:55,935 --> 07:54:56,635 take that team to help. Given 13720 07:54:56,635 --> 07:54:57,603 their expertise. If we decided 13721 07:54:57,603 --> 07:55:02,403 to keep it in parks so be it. 13722 07:55:03,909 --> 07:55:04,542 But there is a group of people 13723 07:55:04,542 --> 07:55:05,444 that have been dealing with a 13724 07:55:05,444 --> 07:55:06,344 lot of these issues inside 13725 07:55:06,344 --> 07:55:07,378 public works. I hope that we 13726 07:55:07,378 --> 07:55:08,246 take some of the lessons 13727 07:55:08,246 --> 07:55:08,880 learned from fdot and the 13728 07:55:08,880 --> 07:55:11,849 underlying so we can expedite 13729 07:55:11,849 --> 07:55:13,849 it. 13730 07:55:17,188 --> 07:55:18,210 >> commissioner gilbert? 13731 07:55:18,210 --> 07:55:18,656 >> me saying take the 13732 07:55:18,656 --> 07:55:21,656 underlying team do you mean 13733 07:55:28,970 --> 07:55:28,532 take the team or the concept? 13734 07:55:28,532 --> 07:55:29,566 What do you mean? 13735 07:55:29,566 --> 07:55:30,233 >> I am talking about irene 13736 07:55:30,233 --> 07:55:31,167 and the folks that have been 13737 07:55:31,167 --> 07:55:32,101 working on the underlying. The 13738 07:55:32,101 --> 07:55:33,690 underline is done in OCTOBER. 13739 07:55:33,690 --> 07:55:33,870 They have a particular 13740 07:55:33,870 --> 07:55:36,870 expertise that would be helpful 13741 07:55:40,743 --> 07:55:41,677 to in israel. 13742 07:55:41,677 --> 07:55:42,711 >> it is telling us one thing 13743 07:55:42,711 --> 07:55:43,512 and charging and I do not want 13744 07:55:43,512 --> 07:55:43,713 them to do that again. Thank 13745 07:55:43,713 --> 07:55:44,546 you. 13746 07:55:44,546 --> 07:55:47,546 >> we have a motion by 13747 07:55:49,617 --> 07:55:50,319 commissioner and a second by 13748 07:55:50,319 --> 07:55:51,186 commissioner cohen higgins. 13749 07:55:51,186 --> 07:55:52,154 All in favor signify by saying 13750 07:55:52,154 --> 07:55:55,754 aye. All opposed nay. Show it 13751 07:55:56,624 --> 07:55:58,624 passed. I got 14. 13752 07:56:13,874 --> 07:56:14,408 >> Chair Rodriguez: -- . Mdm. 13753 07:56:14,408 --> 07:56:14,941 Mayor you like to be 13754 07:56:14,941 --> 07:56:15,675 recognized? 13755 07:56:15,675 --> 07:56:16,543 >> I wanted to thank everybody 13756 07:56:16,543 --> 07:56:17,444 who came here today to speak on 13757 07:56:17,444 --> 07:56:20,346 it. I really appreciate the 13758 07:56:20,346 --> 07:56:21,213 community members that came 13759 07:56:21,213 --> 07:56:22,148 out. And for those who have 13760 07:56:22,148 --> 07:56:25,748 been working on it for many 13761 07:56:30,889 --> 07:56:31,757 years. I appreciate the great 13762 07:56:31,757 --> 07:56:32,724 showing that we have from our 13763 07:56:32,724 --> 07:56:33,191 constituents in our community. 13764 07:56:33,191 --> 07:56:34,226 Thank you so much. 13765 07:56:34,226 --> 07:56:34,760 >> thank you so much for that 13766 07:56:34,760 --> 07:56:35,660 comment. Thank you for 13767 07:56:35,660 --> 07:56:36,361 everyone who came out and 13768 07:56:36,361 --> 07:56:37,295 supported it. Mme. Mayor on 13769 07:56:37,295 --> 07:56:37,695 your report 14 mayor on your 13770 07:56:37,695 --> 07:56:39,695 report 14. 13771 07:56:43,968 --> 07:56:46,368 >> Chair Rodriguez: -- 14 b 13772 07:56:46,471 --> 07:56:48,471 number one. 13773 07:56:49,140 --> 07:56:51,540 >> I will summarize the 13774 07:56:51,842 --> 07:56:53,842 report. 13775 07:56:56,780 --> 07:56:58,780 >> deputy mayor? 13776 07:57:00,417 --> 07:57:02,417 >> roy works better. 13777 07:57:06,789 --> 07:57:07,857 >> dm, run dmc. 13778 07:57:07,857 --> 07:57:10,857 >> whatever you say will be 13779 07:57:13,262 --> 07:57:13,963 the rule. 13780 07:57:13,963 --> 07:57:14,864 >> you have a lights. I 13781 07:57:14,864 --> 07:57:15,731 really like you. I got your 13782 07:57:15,731 --> 07:57:19,931 back I don't care what they say 13783 07:57:20,202 --> 07:57:20,902 about you. [Laughter] 13784 07:57:20,902 --> 07:57:23,902 It doesn't matter what the 13785 07:57:25,373 --> 07:57:26,274 mayor says I have your back. I 13786 07:57:26,274 --> 07:57:26,975 got my coffee and extra whip 13787 07:57:26,975 --> 07:57:30,378 cream on the side. And also 13788 07:57:30,378 --> 07:57:34,578 the sugar and has a mocha and 13789 07:57:37,485 --> 07:57:38,619 we are good. 13790 07:57:38,619 --> 07:57:39,486 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. In 13791 07:57:39,486 --> 07:57:40,187 summary of this item the bottom 13792 07:57:40,187 --> 07:57:41,221 line is about 30 years ago the 13793 07:57:41,221 --> 07:57:42,322 board of county commissioners 13794 07:57:42,322 --> 07:57:42,889 was sued by the federal 13795 07:57:42,889 --> 07:57:43,890 government and the state 13796 07:57:43,890 --> 07:57:45,325 government for violation of the 13797 07:57:45,325 --> 07:57:47,627 clean water act. As a result 13798 07:57:47,627 --> 07:57:51,227 of that sued the board entered 13799 07:57:55,334 --> 07:57:56,235 into a consent decree 13800 07:57:56,235 --> 07:57:56,869 committing to a list of 13801 07:57:56,869 --> 07:57:57,870 projects. They did not fund 13802 07:57:57,870 --> 07:58:01,470 those projects and the plan was 13803 07:58:01,774 --> 07:58:02,875 to fund them yearly as the 13804 07:58:02,875 --> 07:58:04,760 projects were being executed. 13805 07:58:04,760 --> 07:58:04,643 We are about two years away 13806 07:58:04,643 --> 07:58:06,440 from finishing the entire 13807 07:58:06,440 --> 07:58:09,644 consent order if were able to 13808 07:58:14,919 --> 07:58:15,786 continue on our path. We are 13809 07:58:15,786 --> 07:58:16,654 under federal oversight that 13810 07:58:16,654 --> 07:58:17,255 cost us money recently here 13811 07:58:17,255 --> 07:58:18,189 that we would like to see 13812 07:58:18,189 --> 07:58:19,190 ended. In addition to the 13813 07:58:19,190 --> 07:58:20,224 consent order in 2007 the state 13814 07:58:20,224 --> 07:58:22,624 passed legislation that called 13815 07:58:24,795 --> 07:58:25,796 the ocean outfall legislation 13816 07:58:25,796 --> 07:58:29,396 requiring us to reduce the use 13817 07:58:31,535 --> 07:58:32,536 of ocean outfalls of our 13818 07:58:32,536 --> 07:58:33,690 wastewater plants. The same 13819 07:58:33,690 --> 07:58:33,803 thing there the board was 13820 07:58:33,803 --> 07:58:37,403 required by the state to submit 13821 07:58:39,750 --> 07:58:40,760 a plan to dep which they did. 13822 07:58:40,760 --> 07:58:40,777 Committing to compliance again 13823 07:58:40,777 --> 07:58:41,510 without committing the money 13824 07:58:41,510 --> 07:58:45,110 saying we will raise it each 13825 07:58:48,500 --> 07:58:48,784 year as needed. The rate 13826 07:58:48,784 --> 07:58:49,684 increase that has been proposed 13827 07:58:49,684 --> 07:58:53,284 in the mayor's budget and has 13828 07:58:57,892 --> 07:58:58,893 been explained in this report 13829 07:58:58,893 --> 07:58:59,894 is the amount required to go to 13830 07:58:59,894 --> 07:59:00,895 the bond market to raise money 13831 07:59:00,895 --> 07:59:03,297 for this year's bills. It is a 13832 07:59:03,297 --> 07:59:03,998 6% rate increase that will 13833 07:59:03,998 --> 07:59:06,998 ultimately parlay into a bond 13834 07:59:08,469 --> 07:59:09,202 yield of $435 million. That is 13835 07:59:09,202 --> 07:59:11,202 100% for capital improvements 13836 07:59:12,605 --> 07:59:13,607 only no operations money. The 13837 07:59:13,607 --> 07:59:16,607 department has done an amazing 13838 07:59:20,714 --> 07:59:21,781 job through cutting positions. 13839 07:59:21,781 --> 07:59:25,118 >> can we quiet down to listen 13840 07:59:25,118 --> 07:59:26,510 to the deputy mayor? Staff? 13841 07:59:26,510 --> 07:59:26,752 Can we quiet down because I can 13842 07:59:26,752 --> 07:59:29,752 hear him myself. Thank you. 13843 07:59:29,789 --> 07:59:30,656 >> the water and sewer 13844 07:59:30,656 --> 07:59:33,560 department has done an 13845 07:59:36,628 --> 07:59:37,195 excellent job cutting costs 13846 07:59:37,195 --> 07:59:39,310 whether or not asking 13847 07:59:39,310 --> 07:59:39,964 operations so the money will be 13848 07:59:39,964 --> 07:59:42,267 for raising capital. In the 13849 07:59:42,267 --> 07:59:45,867 event the board chooses not to 13850 07:59:46,771 --> 07:59:47,538 approve the mayor's 13851 07:59:47,538 --> 07:59:48,473 recommendation we have provided 13852 07:59:48,473 --> 07:59:51,542 the report the list of projects 13853 07:59:51,542 --> 07:59:52,409 that cannot go forward. There 13854 07:59:52,409 --> 07:59:53,100 is a list of ocean outfall 13855 07:59:53,100 --> 07:59:55,100 projects, consent order 13856 07:59:55,846 --> 07:59:56,847 projects and other capital 13857 07:59:56,847 --> 07:59:59,247 improvement needs that simply 13858 08:00:01,718 --> 08:00:02,419 will have to be delayed or 13859 08:00:02,419 --> 08:00:03,319 canceled. We put that in the 13860 08:00:03,319 --> 08:00:04,187 report. We also have a letter 13861 08:00:04,187 --> 08:00:07,187 that was distributed to you 13862 08:00:09,358 --> 08:00:10,930 earlier today from our bond 13863 08:00:10,930 --> 08:00:10,993 engineer who has reported that 13864 08:00:10,993 --> 08:00:14,593 this is the minimum amount of 13865 08:00:17,733 --> 08:00:18,734 increase to support the capital 13866 08:00:18,734 --> 08:00:19,735 improvement needs. Our bond 13867 08:00:19,735 --> 08:00:20,536 engineering consultant is here 13868 08:00:20,536 --> 08:00:21,236 today if anyone wants to 13869 08:00:21,236 --> 08:00:24,236 question them of how they 13870 08:00:25,173 --> 08:00:25,874 helped us to determine that 13871 08:00:25,874 --> 08:00:26,708 information. We did this 13872 08:00:26,708 --> 08:00:29,430 report and we are happy to 13873 08:00:29,430 --> 08:00:33,243 return at a later date with the 13874 08:00:36,217 --> 08:00:37,151 resolution for your voting on 13875 08:00:37,151 --> 08:00:38,118 it or we are happy to deal with 13876 08:00:38,118 --> 08:00:39,860 it during the budget. We will 13877 08:00:39,860 --> 08:00:40,220 take your direction on that and 13878 08:00:40,220 --> 08:00:41,154 happy to answer any questions. 13879 08:00:41,154 --> 08:00:44,154 >> thank you for that deputy 13880 08:00:48,161 --> 08:00:49,162 mayor. Commissioner cohen 13881 08:00:49,162 --> 08:00:50,300 higgins on the point of order. 13882 08:00:50,300 --> 08:00:53,300 >> point of order that is 13883 08:00:54,330 --> 08:00:54,934 before us is the report. So I 13884 08:00:54,934 --> 08:00:55,802 am trying to understand 13885 08:00:55,802 --> 08:00:58,802 procedurally what is before us? 13886 08:01:23,928 --> 08:01:24,628 It is a report asking making a 13887 08:01:24,628 --> 08:01:25,629 recommendation for 6% increase 13888 08:01:25,629 --> 08:01:26,130 in fees. Is that accurate? It 13889 08:01:26,130 --> 08:01:27,970 is a report. 13890 08:01:27,970 --> 08:01:28,431 >> it is a report explaining 13891 08:01:28,431 --> 08:01:28,999 the necessity of 6% in fees. 13892 08:01:28,999 --> 08:01:29,933 It is not an official vote 13893 08:01:29,933 --> 08:01:30,601 request today. That is why we 13894 08:01:30,601 --> 08:01:31,468 would be more than happy to 13895 08:01:31,468 --> 08:01:32,103 return with the resolution or 13896 08:01:32,103 --> 08:01:32,969 in the project process. 13897 08:01:32,969 --> 08:01:33,670 >> I see. We are having a 13898 08:01:33,670 --> 08:01:34,604 discussion were not taking a 13899 08:01:34,604 --> 08:01:35,505 vote on this is that correct? 13900 08:01:35,505 --> 08:01:36,472 are you having someone move if 13901 08:01:36,472 --> 08:01:40,243 we move the report as listed it 13902 08:01:40,243 --> 08:01:41,210 is not an adoption of the 13903 08:01:41,210 --> 08:01:41,811 recommendation. I want to make 13904 08:01:41,811 --> 08:01:42,645 sure procedurally that is 13905 08:01:42,645 --> 08:01:42,979 accurate. This is for 13906 08:01:42,979 --> 08:01:43,813 discussion? 13907 08:01:43,813 --> 08:01:44,680 >> this is a report only 13908 08:01:44,680 --> 08:01:45,681 today. We will happily take 13909 08:01:45,681 --> 08:01:46,415 the direction to come back in a 13910 08:01:46,415 --> 08:01:47,316 resolution form or just to vote 13911 08:01:47,316 --> 08:01:48,183 on it during the budget private 13912 08:01:48,183 --> 08:01:48,417 -- process. Whatever the board 13913 08:01:48,417 --> 08:01:50,417 wants. 13914 08:01:53,722 --> 08:01:54,690 >> deputy mayor, my question 13915 08:01:54,690 --> 08:01:57,191 is we talked about how that 13916 08:01:57,191 --> 08:01:58,192 consent agreement impacted 13917 08:01:58,192 --> 08:01:59,827 small businesses and put in 13918 08:01:59,827 --> 08:02:01,827 particular small restaurants 13919 08:02:02,530 --> 08:02:06,130 through the fall aspect of it. 13920 08:02:11,238 --> 08:02:11,972 Month to get there -- months 13921 08:02:11,972 --> 08:02:12,839 ago at that point you indicated 13922 08:02:12,839 --> 08:02:13,774 if we needed to get the support 13923 08:02:13,774 --> 08:02:14,808 obviously of the state and the 13924 08:02:14,808 --> 08:02:17,808 federal government who I think 13925 08:02:20,313 --> 08:02:21,140 will be supportive and 13926 08:02:21,140 --> 08:02:21,815 particularly small businesses 13927 08:02:21,815 --> 08:02:22,815 because the restaurants are 13928 08:02:22,815 --> 08:02:23,483 having a very difficult time 13929 08:02:23,483 --> 08:02:25,510 still. When are we going to 13930 08:02:25,510 --> 08:02:27,510 get that report? 13931 08:02:35,460 --> 08:02:36,328 >> you have been provided a 13932 08:02:36,328 --> 08:02:37,280 report on fog. There has not 13933 08:02:37,280 --> 08:02:38,263 been a report when the feds 13934 08:02:38,263 --> 08:02:40,310 would consider changing the 13935 08:02:40,310 --> 08:02:42,310 realizations -- regulations. 13936 08:02:47,104 --> 08:02:48,600 We MAY finish the consent order 13937 08:02:48,600 --> 08:02:48,773 and have the consent order 13938 08:02:48,773 --> 08:02:50,410 retired quicker than we can get 13939 08:02:50,410 --> 08:02:51,442 the answers. We have people in 13940 08:02:51,442 --> 08:02:52,843 atlanta with epa that have told 13941 08:02:52,843 --> 08:02:55,843 us they would consider they 13942 08:02:55,980 --> 08:02:57,648 would respond to any fog 13943 08:02:57,648 --> 08:03:00,480 request that we have. 13944 08:03:01,384 --> 08:03:02,219 >> what is going to continue 13945 08:03:02,219 --> 08:03:05,255 to happen in this county is 13946 08:03:05,255 --> 08:03:05,988 somebody that does shakes is 13947 08:03:05,988 --> 08:03:08,988 going to have to pay $100,000 13948 08:03:09,825 --> 08:03:10,493 to be able to comply with what 13949 08:03:10,493 --> 08:03:11,727 they have to comply with. We 13950 08:03:11,727 --> 08:03:15,327 are basically going to go to 13951 08:03:25,774 --> 08:03:26,741 broward county. I suppose is 13952 08:03:26,741 --> 08:03:27,508 that is what you're telling us? 13953 08:03:27,508 --> 08:03:28,342 >> no, that is not exactly 13954 08:03:28,342 --> 08:03:29,210 what I am saying. Epa eight 13955 08:03:29,210 --> 08:03:30,245 has indicated they have an open 13956 08:03:30,245 --> 08:03:33,845 ear and will consider our ask 13957 08:03:36,517 --> 08:03:37,384 about changing the floor -- fog 13958 08:03:37,384 --> 08:03:38,850 portion of the consent order. 13959 08:03:38,850 --> 08:03:39,200 What I am saying is we make the 13960 08:03:39,200 --> 08:03:39,987 asking we don't get answers 13961 08:03:39,987 --> 08:03:40,888 very quickly. It will take 13962 08:03:40,888 --> 08:03:41,689 time for them to respond as to 13963 08:03:41,689 --> 08:03:42,956 what exactly we are asking for. 13964 08:03:42,956 --> 08:03:45,956 I am suggesting the most 13965 08:03:47,940 --> 08:03:48,610 important thing that we can do 13966 08:03:48,610 --> 08:03:48,762 is finish the consent order 13967 08:03:48,762 --> 08:03:49,362 projects and get the whole 13968 08:03:49,362 --> 08:03:50,463 order lifted because what you 13969 08:03:50,463 --> 08:03:51,565 are mentioning is one impact of 13970 08:03:51,565 --> 08:03:52,198 the consent order that has 13971 08:03:52,198 --> 08:03:54,198 everyone hands tied. 13972 08:03:56,902 --> 08:03:57,603 >> it is impacting the small 13973 08:03:57,603 --> 08:03:58,471 businesses in our community. 13974 08:03:58,471 --> 08:04:01,471 My question would be the 13975 08:04:03,409 --> 08:04:04,430 following, which one 13976 08:04:04,430 --> 08:04:05,511 consultants can we actually 13977 08:04:05,511 --> 08:04:09,111 talk 2 to see if anything could 13978 08:04:12,383 --> 08:04:13,318 happen with epa? It is great 13979 08:04:13,318 --> 08:04:17,518 that you think it is going to 13980 08:04:17,621 --> 08:04:18,456 be two years that is fantastic 13981 08:04:18,456 --> 08:04:19,324 but that doesn't solve the 13982 08:04:19,324 --> 08:04:20,240 problem now for the restaurants 13983 08:04:20,240 --> 08:04:22,359 trying to open up in miami 13984 08:04:22,359 --> 08:04:23,194 gardens for example. They MAY 13985 08:04:23,194 --> 08:04:23,961 have to come up with an 13986 08:04:23,961 --> 08:04:26,961 incredible amount of money and 13987 08:04:32,769 --> 08:04:33,437 is not going to be able to and 13988 08:04:33,437 --> 08:04:34,271 sometimes as been happening 13989 08:04:34,271 --> 08:04:34,971 with you so we had a hearing 13990 08:04:34,971 --> 08:04:35,839 even a gentleman from north 13991 08:04:35,839 --> 08:04:36,773 carolina was trying to open up 13992 08:04:36,773 --> 08:04:37,774 a restaurant. It is 13993 08:04:37,774 --> 08:04:38,374 practically impossible and I 13994 08:04:38,374 --> 08:04:39,309 MAY have to go to another 13995 08:04:39,309 --> 08:04:41,577 county in florida. I'm all for 13996 08:04:41,577 --> 08:04:45,177 complying but I think at least 13997 08:04:45,514 --> 08:04:46,415 I think we have a fighting 13998 08:04:46,415 --> 08:04:47,350 chance with the PRESIDENT Of 13999 08:04:47,350 --> 08:04:48,384 the epa. Number one and number 14000 08:04:48,384 --> 08:04:51,384 two nothing precludes us from 14001 08:04:52,200 --> 08:04:53,540 making because you can amend an 14002 08:04:53,540 --> 08:04:54,990 agreement. As long as the 14003 08:04:54,990 --> 08:04:58,590 parties agree to do so and 14004 08:05:01,162 --> 08:05:04,498 still continue with the rest of 14005 08:05:04,498 --> 08:05:06,234 the consent decree and a couple 14006 08:05:06,234 --> 08:05:08,903 of years on the road we can 14007 08:05:08,903 --> 08:05:11,903 hopefully lift it from the 30 14008 08:05:13,773 --> 08:05:16,310 year situation. I am not going 14009 08:05:16,310 --> 08:05:17,144 to belabor the point. I think 14010 08:05:17,144 --> 08:05:19,579 there's a way we can get this 14011 08:05:19,579 --> 08:05:23,179 done. It is really killing the 14012 08:05:24,851 --> 08:05:25,752 small businesses right now and 14013 08:05:25,752 --> 08:05:26,986 it is just not a good thing. 14014 08:05:26,986 --> 08:05:29,386 >> we agree with you 14015 08:05:30,890 --> 08:05:32,489 commissioner bermudez and they 14016 08:05:34,226 --> 08:05:37,226 have been leading a cost 14017 08:05:38,530 --> 08:05:39,464 department to reduce the cost 14018 08:05:39,464 --> 08:05:43,664 of the way the law is written 14019 08:05:48,539 --> 08:05:49,573 today. And also seeking relief 14020 08:05:49,573 --> 08:05:50,408 from the epa. So I can commit 14021 08:05:50,408 --> 08:05:51,175 to you that is active and going 14022 08:05:51,175 --> 08:05:52,430 on now. We can meet and give 14023 08:05:52,430 --> 08:05:52,944 you separate reports on all of 14024 08:05:52,944 --> 08:05:56,980 the things that he is doing in 14025 08:05:56,980 --> 08:05:57,748 that space. But it is a good 14026 08:05:57,748 --> 08:05:58,683 point to highlight that problem 14027 08:05:58,683 --> 08:05:59,649 isn't going to go away with epa 14028 08:05:59,649 --> 08:06:02,586 as long as we are under consent 14029 08:06:02,586 --> 08:06:03,587 orders. 14030 08:06:03,587 --> 08:06:04,488 >> through the chair I want to 14031 08:06:04,488 --> 08:06:05,880 add a point here. I am 14032 08:06:05,880 --> 08:06:06,222 checking whether a federal 14033 08:06:06,222 --> 08:06:09,222 lobbyists are working on this 14034 08:06:12,895 --> 08:06:13,496 case. Obviously, we support it 14035 08:06:13,496 --> 08:06:14,197 but we do not want to 14036 08:06:14,197 --> 08:06:15,640 compromise our ability to get 14037 08:06:15,640 --> 08:06:16,766 out from under this. But as 14038 08:06:16,766 --> 08:06:18,634 far as being more active and 14039 08:06:18,634 --> 08:06:19,301 promoting that change, we 14040 08:06:19,301 --> 08:06:22,301 certainly will look into that 14041 08:06:23,338 --> 08:06:24,339 and I would like to do that. 14042 08:06:24,339 --> 08:06:25,640 >> all right. Any further 14043 08:06:25,640 --> 08:06:28,400 discussion on the report? 14044 08:06:31,412 --> 08:06:32,380 >> I will move the report. 14045 08:06:32,380 --> 08:06:32,981 And I guess we will have this 14046 08:06:32,981 --> 08:06:33,381 back in SEPTEMBER? Is that 14047 08:06:33,381 --> 08:06:35,381 correct? 14048 08:06:36,317 --> 08:06:37,180 >> as you MAY direct 14049 08:06:37,180 --> 08:06:37,885 commissioner. It can be in 14050 08:06:37,885 --> 08:06:38,986 september as a resolution or in 14051 08:06:38,986 --> 08:06:41,756 the budget however you direct. 14052 08:06:41,756 --> 08:06:44,291 >> to clarify, we would need 14053 08:06:44,291 --> 08:06:47,600 action on the part of the board 14054 08:06:47,600 --> 08:06:50,660 to increase the fee. We also 14055 08:06:51,500 --> 08:06:55,100 want to note that solid waste 14056 08:06:55,868 --> 08:06:56,603 is today the deadline if you 14057 08:06:56,603 --> 08:06:57,503 were to increase solid waste. 14058 08:06:57,503 --> 08:06:59,272 I just put it out there. 14059 08:06:59,272 --> 08:07:02,272 >> can be in the budget? 14060 08:07:04,900 --> 08:07:04,810 >> apparently solid waste we 14061 08:07:04,810 --> 08:07:07,546 learned last night from the 14062 08:07:07,546 --> 08:07:10,546 county attorney, we can only 14063 08:07:15,686 --> 08:07:16,621 decrease we cannot increase it 14064 08:07:16,621 --> 08:07:17,355 if we held it flat which is the 14065 08:07:17,355 --> 08:07:18,223 current status and maybe we can 14066 08:07:18,223 --> 08:07:20,424 ask them to clarify. There 14067 08:07:20,424 --> 08:07:21,359 were any inclination to address 14068 08:07:21,359 --> 08:07:22,260 some of the concerns that have 14069 08:07:22,260 --> 08:07:24,195 been raised about having to cut 14070 08:07:24,195 --> 08:07:25,129 illegal dumping enforcement and 14071 08:07:25,129 --> 08:07:28,729 other items this would be the 14072 08:07:31,335 --> 08:07:32,302 date to do it. 14073 08:07:32,302 --> 08:07:32,536 >> can we first deal with the 14074 08:07:32,536 --> 08:07:33,303 water? 14075 08:07:33,303 --> 08:07:34,300 >> I think the water is 14076 08:07:34,300 --> 08:07:34,571 something that can come in the 14077 08:07:34,571 --> 08:07:36,173 budget right? 14078 08:07:36,173 --> 08:07:38,475 >> in the budget or separate 14079 08:07:38,475 --> 08:07:39,442 resolution however you direct. 14080 08:07:39,442 --> 08:07:42,110 >> is it okay for you to move 14081 08:07:42,110 --> 08:07:43,120 the item just to adopt the 14082 08:07:43,120 --> 08:07:44,580 report? In whatever 14083 08:07:44,580 --> 08:07:46,980 recommendation comes in a 14084 08:07:48,818 --> 08:07:51,530 budget is that fair? 14085 08:07:51,530 --> 08:07:53,453 >> I'm looking to the 14086 08:07:53,822 --> 08:07:54,489 administration to make sure we 14087 08:07:54,489 --> 08:07:54,857 don't jeopardize the dunns 14088 08:07:54,857 --> 08:07:56,857 creek. 14089 08:08:03,464 --> 08:08:04,398 >> we spoke earlier with the 14090 08:08:04,398 --> 08:08:05,300 chair about dealing with a lot 14091 08:08:05,300 --> 08:08:06,330 of these rate increases without 14092 08:08:06,330 --> 08:08:09,330 bogging down the budget. That 14093 08:08:12,606 --> 08:08:13,507 is why we brought these early 14094 08:08:13,507 --> 08:08:14,208 to you. We are happy to stay 14095 08:08:14,208 --> 08:08:15,109 on that path and bring it at 14096 08:08:15,109 --> 08:08:15,976 the next meeting a form of a 14097 08:08:15,976 --> 08:08:17,100 resolution or we can change if 14098 08:08:17,100 --> 08:08:18,780 you'd rather not having a 14099 08:08:18,780 --> 08:08:18,979 separate budget. We are trying 14100 08:08:18,979 --> 08:08:19,980 to keep it from being such a 14101 08:08:19,980 --> 08:08:21,381 time consumption and budget a. 14102 08:08:21,381 --> 08:08:24,918 >> to not tie your hands in 14103 08:08:24,918 --> 08:08:28,518 any direction today if we adopt 14104 08:08:30,560 --> 08:08:30,957 the report and don't direct in 14105 08:08:30,957 --> 08:08:31,658 the form of a resolution on the 14106 08:08:31,658 --> 08:08:32,591 budget is it at your discretion 14107 08:08:32,591 --> 08:08:35,600 how you would like to bring it? 14108 08:08:35,600 --> 08:08:35,294 >> how ever you want us to we 14109 08:08:35,294 --> 08:08:37,294 will. 14110 08:08:40,198 --> 08:08:41,199 >> let's discuss it. 14111 08:08:41,199 --> 08:08:41,700 >> it is reflected in the 14112 08:08:41,700 --> 08:08:42,800 proposed budget. 14113 08:08:42,800 --> 08:08:45,200 >> okay perfect. With that 14114 08:08:47,720 --> 08:08:48,730 there's a motion by 14115 08:08:48,730 --> 08:08:49,240 commissioner steinberg and 14116 08:08:49,240 --> 08:08:51,640 second by commissioner gilbert. 14117 08:08:53,544 --> 08:08:54,245 >> just be mindful if you 14118 08:08:54,245 --> 08:08:57,245 include this in the proposed 14119 08:08:59,116 --> 08:08:59,817 budget if you do decide to 14120 08:08:59,817 --> 08:09:00,651 adopt something that is not in 14121 08:09:00,651 --> 08:09:01,585 the proposed budget, we are 14122 08:09:01,585 --> 08:09:03,954 going to be forced to change it 14123 08:09:03,954 --> 08:09:04,955 on the fly during the 14124 08:09:04,955 --> 08:09:05,655 discussion. That is why the 14125 08:09:05,655 --> 08:09:07,655 resolution is probably 14126 08:09:08,492 --> 08:09:09,392 preferred so the resolution 14127 08:09:09,392 --> 08:09:11,995 then allows them to work and 14128 08:09:11,995 --> 08:09:13,596 what we have said into the 14129 08:09:13,596 --> 08:09:15,310 budget to a balanced budget. I 14130 08:09:15,310 --> 08:09:17,933 am not telling you all how to 14131 08:09:17,933 --> 08:09:22,733 do it but if we get into a 14132 08:09:22,938 --> 08:09:23,706 situation where they put it in 14133 08:09:23,706 --> 08:09:26,706 the proposed budget at 6% and 14134 08:09:26,942 --> 08:09:29,911 we decide to do 2% or 3% or 1% 14135 08:09:29,911 --> 08:09:30,912 or nothing then they are going 14136 08:09:30,912 --> 08:09:33,181 to force a recalculation of 14137 08:09:33,181 --> 08:09:36,781 that budget on the spot. And 14138 08:09:37,618 --> 08:09:41,818 so that is probably not in us 14139 08:09:42,823 --> 08:09:43,524 being efficient and doing stuff 14140 08:09:43,524 --> 08:09:44,725 expeditiously on budget time. 14141 08:09:44,725 --> 08:09:47,861 I would encourage us to do the 14142 08:09:47,861 --> 08:09:48,695 resolution at some point. 14143 08:09:48,695 --> 08:09:49,395 > you are right but for 14144 08:09:49,395 --> 08:09:52,395 every year that happens. On 14145 08:09:53,934 --> 08:09:54,934 different things. And then 14146 08:09:54,934 --> 08:09:55,802 they are going to be prepared 14147 08:09:55,802 --> 08:09:58,710 either way to make adjustments 14148 08:09:58,710 --> 08:09:59,500 that they. I hear you. Again, 14149 08:09:59,500 --> 08:10:02,605 by not doing anything they can 14150 08:10:03,143 --> 08:10:04,100 still bring a resolution. It 14151 08:10:04,100 --> 08:10:05,110 is not preventing you from 14152 08:10:05,110 --> 08:10:06,446 bringing a resolution and 14153 08:10:06,446 --> 08:10:07,415 placing it on the agenda. 14154 08:10:07,415 --> 08:10:09,716 Awesome, sounds good. Over 14155 08:10:09,716 --> 08:10:11,716 motion by commissioner 14156 08:10:12,887 --> 08:10:13,521 steinberg a second by gilbert. 14157 08:10:13,521 --> 08:10:16,257 Signify by saying aye. All 14158 08:10:16,257 --> 08:10:19,257 oppose nay. She'll the report 14159 08:10:22,832 --> 08:10:25,832 adopted. -- show the report 14160 08:10:29,500 --> 08:10:30,600 adopted. He doesn't want to 14161 08:10:30,600 --> 08:10:32,810 adopt the report that is his 14162 08:10:32,810 --> 08:10:33,577 prerogative. That is it for 14163 08:10:33,577 --> 08:10:35,577 the polis right? 14164 08:10:37,916 --> 08:10:39,183 >> do you want us on the solid 14165 08:10:39,183 --> 08:10:43,383 waste item or no? We had an 14166 08:10:44,289 --> 08:10:44,923 item today. 14167 08:10:44,923 --> 08:10:46,923 >> no, go ahead. 14168 08:10:50,362 --> 08:10:51,263 >> I think probably were not 14169 08:10:51,263 --> 08:10:53,366 able to clarify before now is 14170 08:10:53,366 --> 08:10:56,966 that because the solid waste if 14171 08:10:57,200 --> 08:11:00,602 we choose to increase the solid 14172 08:11:11,386 --> 08:11:12,540 waste fee -- [Indiscernible]. 14173 08:11:12,540 --> 08:11:12,855 We can go lower or stay the 14174 08:11:12,855 --> 08:11:13,589 same but since it was 14175 08:11:13,589 --> 08:11:14,456 determined by this board that 14176 08:11:14,456 --> 08:11:15,157 we were not going to raise the 14177 08:11:15,157 --> 08:11:15,991 solid waste fee they have been 14178 08:11:15,991 --> 08:11:16,892 a number of people voiced 14179 08:11:16,892 --> 08:11:17,627 concerns about what cuts are 14180 08:11:17,627 --> 08:11:18,527 coming in solid waste area so 14181 08:11:18,527 --> 08:11:19,428 in full transparency we are 14182 08:11:19,428 --> 08:11:19,695 happy to go forward raising it 14183 08:11:19,695 --> 08:11:20,430 or not. 14184 08:11:20,430 --> 08:11:22,365 >> I will entertain a 14185 08:11:22,365 --> 08:11:25,365 conversation on it. Go ahead. 14186 08:11:27,104 --> 08:11:27,805 >> thank you. Everyone is 14187 08:11:27,805 --> 08:11:28,706 getting tired. On the solid 14188 08:11:28,706 --> 08:11:30,674 waste we really haven't had an 14189 08:11:30,674 --> 08:11:31,342 opportunity to work on the 14190 08:11:31,342 --> 08:11:33,845 budget. The reason I brought 14191 08:11:33,845 --> 08:11:35,313 the item as a flat item is 14192 08:11:35,313 --> 08:11:38,183 because I think that there are 14193 08:11:38,183 --> 08:11:41,183 certain changes to our solid 14194 08:11:44,690 --> 08:11:45,424 waste department that we can 14195 08:11:45,424 --> 08:11:46,225 bring in order to keep it flat. 14196 08:11:46,225 --> 08:11:47,127 I have been working with my 14197 08:11:47,127 --> 08:11:49,527 district about making some 14198 08:11:50,300 --> 08:11:51,310 changes. I think throughout 14199 08:11:51,310 --> 08:11:51,865 the budget process we can show 14200 08:11:51,865 --> 08:11:56,650 how we can do both things. We 14201 08:11:59,140 --> 08:11:59,974 would have to change some of 14202 08:11:59,974 --> 08:12:00,642 the things that we do in solid 14203 08:12:00,642 --> 08:12:01,576 waste but it would not impact 14204 08:12:01,576 --> 08:12:02,478 our ability to pick up solid 14205 08:12:02,478 --> 08:12:04,513 waste. So that is the reason 14206 08:12:04,513 --> 08:12:05,413 why I brought the item for 14207 08:12:05,413 --> 08:12:09,130 flat. Last year you know it 14208 08:12:17,227 --> 08:12:18,295 was all very -- we spent time 14209 08:12:18,295 --> 08:12:19,296 on the solid waste fee. It's 14210 08:12:19,296 --> 08:12:19,997 something that people feel 14211 08:12:19,997 --> 08:12:20,897 strongly about. This year it 14212 08:12:20,897 --> 08:12:21,765 will be the same but I am happy 14213 08:12:21,765 --> 08:12:22,533 to work on it like we did in 14214 08:12:22,533 --> 08:12:25,503 AUGUST. When I don't recommend 14215 08:12:25,503 --> 08:12:26,270 is for us to agree on raising 14216 08:12:26,270 --> 08:12:27,139 it and then to lower it. 14217 08:12:27,139 --> 08:12:28,273 Because the trim is where 14218 08:12:28,273 --> 08:12:31,873 people see. We had this issue 14219 08:12:31,976 --> 08:12:33,879 last year which is why this 14220 08:12:33,879 --> 08:12:36,879 year I brought it flat. 14221 08:12:38,510 --> 08:12:40,510 >> commissioner cohen higgins? 14222 08:12:42,122 --> 08:12:44,224 >> thank you MR. Chair. 14223 08:12:44,224 --> 08:12:46,624 Again, procedurally the item 14224 08:12:55,370 --> 08:12:56,304 past flat, correct? We are 14225 08:12:56,304 --> 08:12:56,938 discussing it because today 14226 08:12:56,938 --> 08:12:57,840 essentially is the deadline 14227 08:12:57,840 --> 08:12:58,774 you're basically sending us 14228 08:12:58,774 --> 08:12:59,808 caution, right? Today is the 14229 08:12:59,808 --> 08:13:01,610 deadline should there be a 14230 08:13:01,610 --> 08:13:02,312 discussion about entertaining a 14231 08:13:02,312 --> 08:13:03,146 potential increase in the solid 14232 08:13:03,146 --> 08:13:04,247 waste fees which is what you 14233 08:13:04,247 --> 08:13:06,248 all have recommended correct? 14234 08:13:06,248 --> 08:13:10,448 In that spirit and you all are 14235 08:13:19,597 --> 08:13:20,598 doing things differently now 14236 08:13:20,598 --> 08:13:21,165 and I have noticed it. You are 14237 08:13:21,165 --> 08:13:22,134 doing it on the water and 14238 08:13:22,134 --> 08:13:23,350 sewer. You did it all solid 14239 08:13:23,350 --> 08:13:23,769 waste. You did on waste to 14240 08:13:23,769 --> 08:13:24,603 energy. You're issuing these 14241 08:13:24,603 --> 08:13:25,637 memo saying this is what is 14242 08:13:25,637 --> 08:13:26,538 going to be cut should you not 14243 08:13:26,538 --> 08:13:27,306 adopt our recommendation. 14244 08:13:27,306 --> 08:13:28,274 Right? I would like for you to 14245 08:13:28,274 --> 08:13:32,440 go over what it is that you all 14246 08:13:32,440 --> 08:13:32,979 are representing will be cut 14247 08:13:32,979 --> 08:13:33,880 from solid waste as a result of 14248 08:13:33,880 --> 08:13:34,614 you all night getting the 14249 08:13:34,614 --> 08:13:35,781 recommended rate increase that 14250 08:13:35,781 --> 08:13:38,180 you all are requesting. I 14251 08:13:38,180 --> 08:13:41,618 think we need to understand and 14252 08:13:44,359 --> 08:13:44,959 digest what it is that you are 14253 08:13:44,959 --> 08:13:45,826 saying or what you all are 14254 08:13:45,826 --> 08:13:46,594 proposing will be lost as a 14255 08:13:46,594 --> 08:13:47,596 result of your recommendation 14256 08:13:47,596 --> 08:13:47,829 are being adopted by this 14257 08:13:47,829 --> 08:13:49,829 board? 14258 08:13:50,665 --> 08:13:54,265 >> while you pull that up I 14259 08:13:58,174 --> 08:13:59,809 think the same could be made 14260 08:13:59,809 --> 08:14:02,809 for water and sewer memo. 14261 08:14:03,847 --> 08:14:05,847 >> it is extraordinarily 14262 08:14:05,849 --> 08:14:08,849 detailed and again these are 14263 08:14:12,657 --> 08:14:13,492 projects. We are not confused 14264 08:14:13,492 --> 08:14:14,250 about the necessity of these 14265 08:14:14,250 --> 08:14:15,600 projects. You all are 14266 08:14:15,600 --> 08:14:17,460 messaging differently. I hear 14267 08:14:18,230 --> 08:14:19,310 you. I understand. If you're 14268 08:14:19,310 --> 08:14:19,664 asking us to essentially 14269 08:14:19,664 --> 08:14:22,100 reconsider what has already 14270 08:14:22,100 --> 08:14:25,601 been passed, a flat rate speak 14271 08:14:31,478 --> 08:14:32,279 to us of what will be affected 14272 08:14:32,279 --> 08:14:33,281 should the rate stay flat. 14273 08:14:33,281 --> 08:14:36,281 >> we issued a memo about $4.6 14274 08:14:37,485 --> 08:14:38,319 million in cost reductions that 14275 08:14:38,319 --> 08:14:39,754 we would have to achieve. 1.5 14276 08:14:39,754 --> 08:14:41,589 million of that was illegal 14277 08:14:41,589 --> 08:14:43,989 dumping and homeless encampment 14278 08:14:47,430 --> 08:14:48,430 program. A million for code 14279 08:14:48,430 --> 08:14:49,431 enforcement in several hundred 14280 08:14:49,431 --> 08:14:51,431 thousand litter pickup. 14281 08:14:52,936 --> 08:14:53,637 $900,000 in training, 14282 08:14:53,637 --> 08:14:54,470 accounting and $500,000 in 14283 08:14:54,470 --> 08:14:57,470 capital projects is what we 14284 08:15:01,780 --> 08:15:01,378 would not do this year at a 14285 08:15:01,378 --> 08:15:02,212 flat rate. 14286 08:15:02,212 --> 08:15:03,800 > and that is a result of 14287 08:15:03,800 --> 08:15:04,915 you still having funds in your 14288 08:15:04,915 --> 08:15:05,850 carryover account that can't 14289 08:15:05,850 --> 08:15:07,351 cover those costs? I want to 14290 08:15:07,351 --> 08:15:09,351 be clear. 14291 08:15:09,921 --> 08:15:12,590 >> I'm not sure the question. 14292 08:15:12,590 --> 08:15:13,324 We have reserves but our 14293 08:15:13,324 --> 08:15:16,324 reserves are low. There still 14294 08:15:18,262 --> 08:15:19,630 money reserves but we believe 14295 08:15:19,630 --> 08:15:21,650 our reserves need to be added 14296 08:15:21,650 --> 08:15:23,465 to considering the situation 14297 08:15:35,614 --> 08:15:36,314 with epa now and with fema over 14298 08:15:36,314 --> 08:15:37,616 any hurricanes we are expected 14299 08:15:37,616 --> 08:15:38,283 to have a higher portion of the 14300 08:15:38,283 --> 08:15:39,184 cost. We think we need to add 14301 08:15:39,184 --> 08:15:40,118 more to the reserve. We did 14302 08:15:40,118 --> 08:15:40,752 not consider taking money from 14303 08:15:40,752 --> 08:15:41,119 reserves to pay operating 14304 08:15:41,119 --> 08:15:42,120 costs. 14305 08:15:42,120 --> 08:15:43,121 >> was the percent increase 14306 08:15:43,121 --> 08:15:43,621 that passed last year for solid 14307 08:15:43,621 --> 08:15:44,355 waste? 14308 08:15:44,355 --> 08:15:47,955 >> I think it was about one. 14309 08:15:55,801 --> 08:15:56,702 I don't remember the exact 14310 08:15:56,702 --> 08:15:57,670 number. I think it was a 0.7. 14311 08:15:57,670 --> 08:15:58,637 >> this year you are 14312 08:15:58,637 --> 08:15:58,937 recommending what percent 14313 08:15:58,937 --> 08:15:59,671 increase? 14314 08:15:59,671 --> 08:16:00,372 >> we brought an item for 2% 14315 08:16:00,372 --> 08:16:01,239 because the board previously 14316 08:16:01,239 --> 08:16:01,974 directed us to bring an item to 14317 08:16:01,974 --> 08:16:02,774 you for cpi. We brought you an 14318 08:16:02,774 --> 08:16:05,211 item for 2% even though our 14319 08:16:05,211 --> 08:16:05,878 actual cost of operation 14320 08:16:05,878 --> 08:16:06,912 exceeded 2%. We found cost 14321 08:16:06,912 --> 08:16:07,747 savings and cuts to get it down 14322 08:16:07,747 --> 08:16:08,714 to the 2% cpi that the board 14323 08:16:08,714 --> 08:16:09,682 directed us to bring. So we 14324 08:16:09,682 --> 08:16:13,151 can meet all of our obligations 14325 08:16:13,151 --> 08:16:13,752 at 2% anything less there has 14326 08:16:13,752 --> 08:16:16,152 to be something cuts. 14327 08:16:18,391 --> 08:16:19,910 > the 2% represent the $4.6 14328 08:16:19,910 --> 08:16:19,892 million that you ran off the 14329 08:16:19,892 --> 08:16:23,492 list of items that would be 14330 08:16:25,932 --> 08:16:26,733 cut? But service like trash 14331 08:16:26,733 --> 08:16:27,100 collection and pickup would not 14332 08:16:27,100 --> 08:16:28,340 be impacted? 14333 08:16:28,340 --> 08:16:28,935 >> we will continue to pick up 14334 08:16:28,935 --> 08:16:31,103 trash it is the ancillary 14335 08:16:31,103 --> 08:16:33,103 service and enforcement. 14336 08:16:40,313 --> 08:16:41,414 >> the list you enumerated is 14337 08:16:41,414 --> 08:16:42,248 in consideration of what we 14338 08:16:42,248 --> 08:16:43,316 have talked about on previous 14339 08:16:43,316 --> 08:16:43,950 budget conversations I.E. 14340 08:16:43,950 --> 08:16:45,190 Salary staying flat going into 14341 08:16:45,190 --> 08:16:46,353 the next fiscal year? What's 14342 08:16:46,353 --> 08:16:47,354 that is correct. We have 14343 08:16:47,354 --> 08:16:48,288 accounted for zero increases in 14344 08:16:48,288 --> 08:16:48,989 salaries in our budget. 14345 08:16:48,989 --> 08:16:51,389 >> thank you MR. Chair. 14346 08:16:56,597 --> 08:16:57,231 >> commissioner gilbert? You 14347 08:16:57,231 --> 08:16:59,231 are recognized. 14348 08:16:59,900 --> 08:17:02,900 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. We 14349 08:17:05,573 --> 08:17:06,207 struggled with this every year 14350 08:17:06,207 --> 08:17:09,207 and I understand why we 14351 08:17:11,245 --> 08:17:12,179 struggle with it every year. 14352 08:17:12,179 --> 08:17:13,247 It is not necessarily that 14353 08:17:13,247 --> 08:17:15,183 complicated especially when we 14354 08:17:15,183 --> 08:17:17,583 bring back recommendations and 14355 08:17:20,421 --> 08:17:21,522 the administration brings back 14356 08:17:21,522 --> 08:17:23,922 recommendations that ally with 14357 08:17:26,928 --> 08:17:30,528 the cpi. -- align with the 14358 08:17:31,733 --> 08:17:32,700 cpi. The gas goes up for the 14359 08:17:32,700 --> 08:17:33,534 trucks it cost more to operate 14360 08:17:33,534 --> 08:17:37,134 the trucks. It cost more to 14361 08:17:40,675 --> 08:17:44,275 pick up the garbage. If our 14362 08:17:44,378 --> 08:17:47,820 labor costs go up for the 14363 08:17:47,820 --> 08:17:50,820 people who operate the trucks 14364 08:17:50,652 --> 08:17:54,852 that the gas went up than the 14365 08:17:56,458 --> 08:18:00,658 cost to pick up trash goes up. 14366 08:18:00,795 --> 08:18:03,732 It is a fee driven system. I 14367 08:18:03,732 --> 08:18:07,203 do not want to pay more. But 14368 08:18:07,203 --> 08:18:10,203 what this board did that 14369 08:18:15,277 --> 08:18:15,945 addressed years of imbalance 14370 08:18:15,945 --> 08:18:17,581 was bring the rate back in 14371 08:18:17,581 --> 08:18:21,181 alignment. I think we did that 14372 08:18:23,285 --> 08:18:23,986 two years ago. It might seems 14373 08:18:23,986 --> 08:18:27,586 like a little bit now because 14374 08:18:27,590 --> 08:18:28,357 it is they are recommending 2% 14375 08:18:28,357 --> 08:18:29,525 and you want to keep it flat, 14376 08:18:29,525 --> 08:18:31,360 is no big deal it is just $4.6 14377 08:18:31,360 --> 08:18:34,360 million. It doesn't seem like 14378 08:18:34,697 --> 08:18:36,533 that but it probably did not 14379 08:18:36,533 --> 08:18:37,233 seem like that to prior 14380 08:18:37,233 --> 08:18:40,233 commissions when they did it 14381 08:18:41,971 --> 08:18:43,973 also. And the aggregate effect 14382 08:18:43,973 --> 08:18:47,573 of years of not doing that 14383 08:18:51,948 --> 08:18:52,749 placed our system in the rears. 14384 08:18:52,749 --> 08:18:55,686 And the future commission it 14385 08:18:55,686 --> 08:18:56,353 was his this time and it will 14386 08:18:56,353 --> 08:18:59,953 be someone else the next time 14387 08:19:02,125 --> 08:19:02,859 had to make a really big 14388 08:19:02,859 --> 08:19:06,163 increase. And so let me just 14389 08:19:06,163 --> 08:19:06,797 suggest that we are not being 14390 08:19:06,797 --> 08:19:10,768 when we do that. We are not 14391 08:19:10,768 --> 08:19:13,768 being fair the future rate 14392 08:19:16,307 --> 08:19:17,241 payers. Because they are going 14393 08:19:17,241 --> 08:19:21,441 to have to absorb the cost at 14394 08:19:23,814 --> 08:19:24,782 some point for the increase in 14395 08:19:24,782 --> 08:19:25,483 gas and labor this year. We're 14396 08:19:25,483 --> 08:19:26,417 going to have to make up the 14397 08:19:26,417 --> 08:19:27,318 money at some point. We will 14398 08:19:27,318 --> 08:19:31,518 trim some down and then we will 14399 08:19:33,658 --> 08:19:34,558 not be able to anymore. Then 14400 08:19:34,558 --> 08:19:35,226 we don't want to cut service 14401 08:19:35,226 --> 08:19:36,561 because people are used to two 14402 08:19:36,561 --> 08:19:39,561 pickups a week. People still 14403 08:19:40,365 --> 08:19:41,332 want illegal dumping picked up. 14404 08:19:41,332 --> 08:19:41,933 People still want code 14405 08:19:41,933 --> 08:19:42,767 enforcement and people still 14406 08:19:42,767 --> 08:19:43,668 want these things. And so at 14407 08:19:43,668 --> 08:19:46,380 some point you will have to 14408 08:19:46,380 --> 08:19:47,272 reduce the service or you will 14409 08:19:47,272 --> 08:19:47,906 have to make an adjustment to 14410 08:19:47,906 --> 08:19:50,906 align the service with the 14411 08:19:57,216 --> 08:19:58,216 feet. -- fee. We can do 14412 08:19:58,216 --> 08:20:00,616 whatever the board's pleasure 14413 08:20:00,919 --> 08:20:04,220 is. I am always intrigued by 14414 08:20:04,220 --> 08:20:04,789 commissioner regalado 14415 08:20:04,789 --> 08:20:08,389 proposition by I can find ways 14416 08:20:10,290 --> 08:20:10,929 to reduce and it is always 14417 08:20:10,929 --> 08:20:11,630 interesting how her and 14418 08:20:11,630 --> 08:20:12,564 demonstration get together and 14419 08:20:12,564 --> 08:20:13,565 it always comes back somewhere 14420 08:20:13,565 --> 08:20:17,165 like in between what they said 14421 08:20:18,738 --> 08:20:21,740 and what she said. But if you 14422 08:20:21,740 --> 08:20:25,340 set the rate today and you 14423 08:20:31,884 --> 08:20:32,818 can't go any higher than 14424 08:20:32,818 --> 08:20:33,686 whether the cpi ends of being, 14425 08:20:33,686 --> 08:20:34,386 we know the cpi something the 14426 08:20:34,386 --> 08:20:36,589 matter with the cut is. The 14427 08:20:36,589 --> 08:20:37,624 cpi has to be something. Even 14428 08:20:37,624 --> 08:20:38,591 though they are reduced in some 14429 08:20:38,591 --> 08:20:40,293 areas they are saying it is 14430 08:20:40,293 --> 08:20:40,993 already reduced. That is fine, 14431 08:20:40,993 --> 08:20:44,563 okay. So right now they are 14432 08:20:44,563 --> 08:20:45,465 asking for 2% even though it is 14433 08:20:45,465 --> 08:20:47,167 technically more than 2%. 14434 08:20:47,167 --> 08:20:50,767 Let's say she is a brilliant 14435 08:20:54,207 --> 08:20:55,750 cutter and making things 14436 08:20:55,750 --> 08:20:56,760 efficient and she could stand 14437 08:20:56,760 --> 08:20:57,770 in half, it is still 1% and you 14438 08:20:57,770 --> 08:21:00,470 have left the system and 14439 08:21:00,470 --> 08:21:01,148 balanced. And so I just want 14440 08:21:01,148 --> 08:21:03,983 us to appreciate the fact that 14441 08:21:03,983 --> 08:21:05,586 sometimes being fiscally 14442 08:21:05,586 --> 08:21:07,986 conservative means you actually 14443 08:21:10,457 --> 08:21:13,894 figure out what the actual cost 14444 08:21:13,894 --> 08:21:16,894 is and charge it. Because 14445 08:21:18,565 --> 08:21:19,433 there's a component of being 14446 08:21:19,433 --> 08:21:20,334 fiscally conservative and that 14447 08:21:20,334 --> 08:21:21,835 means you are being fiscally 14448 08:21:21,835 --> 08:21:24,235 responsible. So they really 14449 08:21:26,640 --> 08:21:27,942 want to be responsible -- so if 14450 08:21:27,942 --> 08:21:30,278 you really want to be 14451 08:21:30,278 --> 08:21:33,278 responsible and they cut the 14452 08:21:35,883 --> 08:21:38,186 fee, the residents if you 14453 08:21:38,186 --> 08:21:40,521 really want to do that and say 14454 08:21:40,521 --> 08:21:44,721 this is all we are willing for 14455 08:21:47,662 --> 08:21:48,296 this fee to be, what can you do 14456 08:21:48,296 --> 08:21:49,431 with this? They reduces 14457 08:21:49,431 --> 08:21:50,164 services and we go from there. 14458 08:21:50,164 --> 08:21:50,832 The problem is that is every 14459 08:21:50,832 --> 08:21:53,501 year they will have to reduce 14460 08:21:53,501 --> 08:21:56,501 the services more. That is 14461 08:21:57,672 --> 08:22:00,108 going to be the challenge so 14462 08:22:00,108 --> 08:22:00,809 this is more a philosophical 14463 08:22:00,809 --> 08:22:02,610 conversation that we probably 14464 08:22:02,610 --> 08:22:05,147 should and we did address when 14465 08:22:05,147 --> 08:22:09,347 we told them to bring us back 14466 08:22:09,451 --> 08:22:10,152 the recommendation of cpi. I 14467 08:22:10,152 --> 08:22:13,888 was going to say what we should 14468 08:22:13,888 --> 08:22:14,589 have this philosophical 14469 08:22:14,589 --> 08:22:15,391 conversation but we did have 14470 08:22:15,391 --> 08:22:17,391 this philosophical 14471 08:22:20,596 --> 08:22:21,530 conversation. And so now they 14472 08:22:21,530 --> 08:22:22,397 are bringing us back what we 14473 08:22:22,397 --> 08:22:25,997 told them to bring us back 14474 08:22:26,969 --> 08:22:27,670 after they cut and we are 14475 08:22:27,670 --> 08:22:30,390 saying we still won't do it. 14476 08:22:30,390 --> 08:22:31,974 And so that is the challenge 14477 08:22:31,974 --> 08:22:34,374 that puts the administration 14478 08:22:40,282 --> 08:22:40,917 and it puts us where we have 14479 08:22:40,917 --> 08:22:42,985 the exact same conversation 14480 08:22:42,985 --> 08:22:45,755 every year. I guess it might 14481 08:22:45,755 --> 08:22:49,355 not be insanity even though we 14482 08:22:51,127 --> 08:22:52,195 say it is. 14483 08:22:52,195 --> 08:22:53,170 >> commissioner, let's move 14484 08:22:53,170 --> 08:22:57,370 on. Here's what we can do. We 14485 08:23:01,271 --> 08:23:01,905 can move on or we can 14486 08:23:01,905 --> 08:23:02,772 reconsider what we approved 14487 08:23:02,772 --> 08:23:03,439 earlier on the flat rate. And 14488 08:23:03,439 --> 08:23:06,439 have it re-notice and we 14489 08:23:06,810 --> 08:23:09,810 discussed it on first -- 14490 08:23:09,913 --> 08:23:10,914 SEPTEMBER 1. We can move on 14491 08:23:10,914 --> 08:23:13,914 with what we approved today 14492 08:23:27,999 --> 08:23:28,933 which is a five letter n. I 14493 08:23:28,933 --> 08:23:29,633 will encourage we make a 14494 08:23:29,633 --> 08:23:30,134 decision on what direction we 14495 08:23:30,134 --> 08:23:31,135 want to go in. 14496 08:23:31,135 --> 08:23:32,169 >> I get it and I appreciate 14497 08:23:32,169 --> 08:23:33,170 that commissioner gilbert. We 14498 08:23:33,170 --> 08:23:34,138 always have this conversation. 14499 08:23:34,138 --> 08:23:34,939 Last year we got the department 14500 08:23:34,939 --> 08:23:35,907 to make some cuts. I think 14501 08:23:35,907 --> 08:23:36,908 this year we have to get the 14502 08:23:36,908 --> 08:23:37,608 department to change the way it 14503 08:23:37,608 --> 08:23:38,542 does certain things and hasn't 14504 08:23:38,542 --> 08:23:39,410 done that. I brought a lot of 14505 08:23:39,410 --> 08:23:40,770 items asking this department to 14506 08:23:40,770 --> 08:23:40,912 make more revenue and it is 14507 08:23:40,912 --> 08:23:41,912 going to take something like 14508 08:23:41,912 --> 08:23:42,913 this to push them into that 14509 08:23:42,913 --> 08:23:43,547 uncomfortable space. The 14510 08:23:43,547 --> 08:23:46,484 reality is while we talk about 14511 08:23:46,484 --> 08:23:47,352 all the things that are want to 14512 08:23:47,352 --> 08:23:48,686 be cut, I was upset when I 14513 08:23:48,686 --> 08:23:52,286 found out that we ended up 14514 08:23:52,824 --> 08:23:53,691 paying for the city of miami's 14515 08:23:53,691 --> 08:23:56,691 fifa trash. We were not 14516 08:24:01,499 --> 08:24:02,433 obligated to do that. It was 14517 08:24:02,433 --> 08:24:03,401 over $300,000 that we are 14518 08:24:03,401 --> 08:24:04,100 paying. I think we should get 14519 08:24:04,100 --> 08:24:04,903 that back from the city of 14520 08:24:04,903 --> 08:24:05,570 miami. That is one of the 14521 08:24:05,570 --> 08:24:06,505 things that we need to discuss 14522 08:24:06,505 --> 08:24:09,505 because we approved this budget 14523 08:24:10,508 --> 08:24:11,176 and we are giving this 14524 08:24:11,176 --> 08:24:12,144 draconian list of things. 14525 08:24:12,144 --> 08:24:13,110 There are other things. There 14526 08:24:13,110 --> 08:24:14,245 are other revenues that we 14527 08:24:14,245 --> 08:24:15,114 talked about. There's many -- 14528 08:24:15,114 --> 08:24:16,470 many dumps and changing the way 14529 08:24:16,470 --> 08:24:16,749 we do things. There is this 14530 08:24:16,749 --> 08:24:19,149 constant pushback on changing 14531 08:24:19,985 --> 08:24:23,255 the way that we do solid waste. 14532 08:24:23,255 --> 08:24:24,256 I think this year we hold them 14533 08:24:24,256 --> 08:24:27,256 flat and make the changes. 4.6 14534 08:24:30,296 --> 08:24:31,630 is not back -- not that big of 14535 08:24:31,630 --> 08:24:35,263 a deal. If we change some of 14536 08:24:37,804 --> 08:24:38,771 the ways we do this by 14537 08:24:38,771 --> 08:24:39,472 naturally curtail some of the 14538 08:24:39,472 --> 08:24:40,372 illegal dumping in some of the 14539 08:24:40,372 --> 08:24:41,400 things were spending money on. 14540 08:24:41,400 --> 08:24:45,240 I would tell you to hold it 14541 08:24:46,460 --> 08:24:46,880 this is different from water 14542 08:24:46,880 --> 08:24:47,881 and sewer and it is not a 14543 08:24:47,881 --> 08:24:48,647 federal issue and not a consent 14544 08:24:48,647 --> 08:24:52,247 issue. This is choices that we 14545 08:24:54,220 --> 08:24:54,921 are making a solid waste to do 14546 08:24:54,921 --> 08:24:55,822 certain things a certain way. 14547 08:24:55,822 --> 08:24:56,689 There are other options and we 14548 08:24:56,689 --> 08:24:57,357 could do better. We are not 14549 08:24:57,357 --> 08:25:00,357 being pushed to do better. 14550 08:25:00,827 --> 08:25:01,127 >> that said yes commissioner 14551 08:25:01,127 --> 08:25:02,950 steinberg? 14552 08:25:02,950 --> 08:25:05,950 >> I think there are benefits 14553 08:25:05,299 --> 08:25:08,299 in having this conversation. I 14554 08:25:09,350 --> 08:25:10,603 think it is important for us to 14555 08:25:10,603 --> 08:25:11,271 look at all sides of this. I 14556 08:25:11,271 --> 08:25:13,173 guess this is a question for 14557 08:25:13,173 --> 08:25:15,573 the administration or the 14558 08:25:15,943 --> 08:25:18,943 attorneys. If we were to 14559 08:25:25,353 --> 08:25:26,870 reconsider the item in 14560 08:25:26,870 --> 08:25:26,887 SEPTEMBER I think SEPTEMBER 1 14561 08:25:26,887 --> 08:25:27,554 that still gives us time 14562 08:25:27,554 --> 08:25:28,422 because the tram notices 14563 08:25:28,422 --> 08:25:28,722 SEPTEMBER 15 is the deadline 14564 08:25:28,722 --> 08:25:30,722 correct? 14565 08:25:32,590 --> 08:25:32,760 >> it is not the tram, the 14566 08:25:32,760 --> 08:25:35,496 statute that we travel to put 14567 08:25:35,496 --> 08:25:39,696 it on a tax bill and that 14568 08:25:41,235 --> 08:25:41,669 requires to adopt it on 14569 08:25:41,669 --> 08:25:43,669 SEPTEMBER 15. 14570 08:25:44,438 --> 08:25:48,638 >> it has been a long day with 14571 08:25:57,251 --> 08:25:58,219 cream or whatever he got. If 14572 08:25:58,219 --> 08:25:58,853 he were to reconsider to have 14573 08:25:58,853 --> 08:26:01,853 the discussion in full in 14574 08:26:02,523 --> 08:26:05,523 SEPTEMBER could be earmarked to 14575 08:26:07,662 --> 08:26:10,620 commissioner regalado! -- 14b1 14576 08:26:12,133 --> 08:26:13,100 -- 14b1 point and you mentioned 14577 08:26:13,100 --> 08:26:13,668 something about the reserves. 14578 08:26:13,668 --> 08:26:15,637 We don't have any reserves 14579 08:26:15,637 --> 08:26:19,837 right now. We could go to that 14580 08:26:29,618 --> 08:26:30,519 cpi and put a portion of that 14581 08:26:30,519 --> 08:26:31,153 into the reserves that they 14582 08:26:31,153 --> 08:26:33,822 cannot touch until we also 14583 08:26:33,822 --> 08:26:34,389 figure out about better policy 14584 08:26:34,389 --> 08:26:35,258 moving forward and that is 14585 08:26:35,258 --> 08:26:36,910 something we have a discussion 14586 08:26:36,910 --> 08:26:36,759 about. That is my thought 14587 08:26:36,759 --> 08:26:38,127 about maybe we stay flat. We 14588 08:26:38,127 --> 08:26:38,761 are not committing to anything 14589 08:26:38,761 --> 08:26:39,562 but I think that is one reason 14590 08:26:39,562 --> 08:26:40,960 that we can look at is to the 14591 08:26:40,960 --> 08:26:42,960 reconsideration. 14592 08:26:44,990 --> 08:26:47,699 >> I guess this is a question. 14593 08:26:47,770 --> 08:26:48,471 We are all on the same page and 14594 08:26:48,471 --> 08:26:52,710 understand and we have to pay 14595 08:26:53,876 --> 08:26:54,810 for it. It is fairly 14596 08:26:54,810 --> 08:26:55,411 disheartening when we hear 14597 08:26:55,411 --> 08:26:56,212 everything keeps on going up 14598 08:26:56,212 --> 08:26:59,812 but we keep everything flat and 14599 08:27:01,117 --> 08:27:02,180 still of cost to the residents 14600 08:27:02,180 --> 08:27:03,486 and still cause and we have to 14601 08:27:03,486 --> 08:27:07,860 bear it. There are times where 14602 08:27:07,990 --> 08:27:08,857 we need to see change and we 14603 08:27:08,857 --> 08:27:12,457 need to ensure they come back 14604 08:27:12,461 --> 08:27:13,261 with these changes. I agree 14605 08:27:13,261 --> 08:27:14,262 with you that we have asked 14606 08:27:14,262 --> 08:27:17,766 previous times to come up with 14607 08:27:17,766 --> 08:27:18,800 certain changes to the way that 14608 08:27:18,800 --> 08:27:21,602 we try to monetize and collect 14609 08:27:21,602 --> 08:27:22,470 trash. And we haven't seen a 14610 08:27:22,470 --> 08:27:25,470 lot of traction on that. 14611 08:27:27,708 --> 08:27:29,409 However, there has to be 14612 08:27:29,409 --> 08:27:31,478 somewhere to land his plane. 14613 08:27:31,478 --> 08:27:35,678 We do have to be honest with 14614 08:27:38,510 --> 08:27:39,119 our voters. Maybe if we can 14615 08:27:39,119 --> 08:27:40,190 get this administration to come 14616 08:27:40,190 --> 08:27:41,187 back with a different plan from 14617 08:27:41,187 --> 08:27:45,387 here to SEPTEMBER we can try to 14618 08:27:46,292 --> 08:27:47,293 monetize. I am with you 14619 08:27:47,293 --> 08:27:48,260 commissioner steinberg. Maybe 14620 08:27:48,260 --> 08:27:49,261 that is the path that we go 14621 08:27:49,261 --> 08:27:52,164 compressing the time and by 14622 08:27:52,164 --> 08:27:52,831 SEPTEMBER they should come up 14623 08:27:52,831 --> 08:27:53,665 with a plan for us and that 14624 08:27:53,665 --> 08:27:54,633 gives us flexibility to see 14625 08:27:54,633 --> 08:27:58,570 whether or not. I am okay with 14626 08:27:58,570 --> 08:28:02,170 going back to my taxpayers and 14627 08:28:02,741 --> 08:28:03,608 to the voters and asked for an 14628 08:28:03,608 --> 08:28:04,342 increase when there are changes 14629 08:28:04,342 --> 08:28:07,712 on our end. I would hate to go 14630 08:28:07,712 --> 08:28:10,514 back to the voters of hialeah 14631 08:28:10,514 --> 08:28:11,248 and asked for an increase 14632 08:28:11,248 --> 08:28:12,783 anywhere when we haven't done 14633 08:28:12,783 --> 08:28:15,783 any changes. We haven't made 14634 08:28:18,655 --> 08:28:19,289 any movement forward to make 14635 08:28:19,289 --> 08:28:20,190 sure that we are better 14636 08:28:20,190 --> 08:28:21,158 stewards of the money we 14637 08:28:21,158 --> 08:28:23,558 collect. To your point 14638 08:28:24,427 --> 08:28:25,195 commissioner, they MAY be a 14639 08:28:25,195 --> 08:28:25,928 happy medium and maybe you guys 14640 08:28:25,928 --> 08:28:29,528 can help me articulate that and 14641 08:28:32,702 --> 08:28:35,671 we could try to do that. 14642 08:28:35,671 --> 08:28:38,710 >> are we doing this? 14643 08:28:39,975 --> 08:28:42,975 >> just a quick comment. I 14644 08:28:47,882 --> 08:28:48,750 know our committee the one that 14645 08:28:48,750 --> 08:28:51,750 commissioner and I chair has 14646 08:28:52,253 --> 08:28:53,154 decided to take a deep dive 14647 08:28:53,154 --> 08:28:53,921 into all of the departments 14648 08:28:53,921 --> 08:28:56,321 including solid waste. Despite 14649 08:28:58,492 --> 08:28:59,360 the fact it is an enterprise 14650 08:28:59,360 --> 08:28:59,960 fund, we said that is the one 14651 08:28:59,960 --> 08:29:02,960 that gives us the most 14652 08:29:03,430 --> 08:29:04,398 heartburn. And so you're 14653 08:29:04,398 --> 08:29:06,500 committed MR. CHAIRMAN to doing 14654 08:29:06,500 --> 08:29:07,567 that in AUGUST. Remember we 14655 08:29:07,567 --> 08:29:08,435 said we wouldn't take a recess 14656 08:29:08,435 --> 08:29:09,402 because we really wanted to 14657 08:29:09,402 --> 08:29:12,706 look at all of the county 14658 08:29:12,706 --> 08:29:13,740 departments that touch general 14659 08:29:13,740 --> 08:29:16,309 revenue but also this one in 14660 08:29:16,309 --> 08:29:19,178 particular. We are excited to 14661 08:29:19,178 --> 08:29:20,146 do that work and I'm sure we 14662 08:29:20,146 --> 08:29:22,481 are going to find ways in which 14663 08:29:22,481 --> 08:29:23,482 things can change because we 14664 08:29:23,482 --> 08:29:26,652 agree things have to be done 14665 08:29:26,652 --> 08:29:29,520 differently. Unless we explore 14666 08:29:30,255 --> 08:29:32,190 that, we are not being faithful 14667 08:29:32,190 --> 08:29:35,526 to our fiduciary duty. I just 14668 08:29:35,526 --> 08:29:36,127 wanted to point out that is 14669 08:29:36,127 --> 08:29:36,494 what we will be doing in 14670 08:29:36,494 --> 08:29:38,494 AUGUST. 14671 08:29:41,198 --> 08:29:43,434 >> okay so here is what I 14672 08:29:43,434 --> 08:29:47,634 don't want to do. I do not 14673 08:29:48,205 --> 08:29:51,805 want to spend another two hours 14674 08:29:52,109 --> 08:29:52,776 in SEPTEMBER 1. What I will 14675 08:29:52,776 --> 08:29:53,643 suggest is let's take a 14676 08:29:53,643 --> 08:29:56,643 struggle if there's an appetite 14677 08:30:00,383 --> 08:30:01,150 to change. Reconsidering is 14678 08:30:01,150 --> 08:30:03,286 one thing and I think we have 14679 08:30:03,286 --> 08:30:05,200 the votes to reconsider. Is 14680 08:30:05,200 --> 08:30:06,322 there an appetite to actually 14681 08:30:06,322 --> 08:30:09,322 increase anything other than a 14682 08:30:15,430 --> 08:30:16,397 flat rate on solid waste? We 14683 08:30:16,397 --> 08:30:17,320 could do by raise of hands. 14684 08:30:17,320 --> 08:30:20,632 Who has an appetite to even 14685 08:30:20,868 --> 08:30:21,536 discuss the possibility? 14686 08:30:21,536 --> 08:30:22,303 You're not saying you are going 14687 08:30:22,303 --> 08:30:23,538 to increase it but the 14688 08:30:23,538 --> 08:30:24,305 possibility of increase in 14689 08:30:24,305 --> 08:30:27,905 anything over a flat rate for 14690 08:30:27,942 --> 08:30:28,742 solid waste? By show of hands 14691 08:30:28,742 --> 08:30:32,179 is there anyone that would like 14692 08:30:32,179 --> 08:30:33,147 to have a conversation? We 14693 08:30:33,147 --> 08:30:34,914 don't have a report but there's 14694 08:30:34,914 --> 08:30:39,114 no one that is inclined to hear 14695 08:30:39,352 --> 08:30:40,220 when out why discuss it for two 14696 08:30:40,220 --> 08:30:44,257 hours if at the end it is not 14697 08:30:44,257 --> 08:30:44,957 going to happen? 14698 08:30:44,957 --> 08:30:45,725 >> I said it clear in the 14699 08:30:45,725 --> 08:30:48,725 record I am willing to 14700 08:30:54,733 --> 08:30:55,601 entertain it as long as there 14701 08:30:55,601 --> 08:30:56,234 are changes from demonstration 14702 08:30:56,234 --> 08:30:57,302 it comes to the board. 14703 08:30:57,302 --> 08:30:58,203 >> that is what I'm saying. 14704 08:30:58,203 --> 08:30:59,104 You said it right. There some 14705 08:30:59,104 --> 08:30:59,804 that with the right 14706 08:30:59,804 --> 08:31:00,939 recommendations are not going 14707 08:31:00,939 --> 08:31:01,806 to entertain a rate increase. 14708 08:31:01,806 --> 08:31:04,242 I'm sure that gilbert might 14709 08:31:04,242 --> 08:31:05,210 entertain it because he said or 14710 08:31:05,210 --> 08:31:07,145 alluded to it. Senator garcia 14711 08:31:07,145 --> 08:31:10,448 you have alluded to it so that 14712 08:31:10,448 --> 08:31:13,448 is three. I see commissioner 14713 08:31:15,786 --> 08:31:18,786 regalado saying no. I don't 14714 08:31:19,823 --> 08:31:24,623 see it. It is not that I don't 14715 08:31:24,661 --> 08:31:25,562 want it, I don't see it. Let's 14716 08:31:25,562 --> 08:31:26,296 avoid a two hour conversation 14717 08:31:26,296 --> 08:31:29,896 on SEPTEMBER 1 and move on with 14718 08:31:30,366 --> 08:31:31,167 our life. That said, I have 14719 08:31:31,167 --> 08:31:34,167 some motions pending and then 14720 08:31:34,269 --> 08:31:36,572 we have discussion items. 14721 08:31:36,572 --> 08:31:39,572 Let's do the discussion items. 14722 08:31:41,610 --> 08:31:44,610 We will do motions after. 14723 08:31:48,783 --> 08:31:51,319 Let's do discussion items. 6a 14724 08:31:51,319 --> 08:31:56,119 one is an item I put on the 14725 08:31:56,891 --> 08:31:57,925 agenda to discuss the ev fleet. 14726 08:31:57,925 --> 08:32:01,525 We supported an item today and 14727 08:32:02,129 --> 08:32:03,290 we voted on an item today and 14728 08:32:03,290 --> 08:32:03,697 commissioner regalado spoke on 14729 08:32:03,697 --> 08:32:04,665 it for second and we had a 14730 08:32:04,665 --> 08:32:05,600 discussion item. If you wanted 14731 08:32:05,600 --> 08:32:09,637 to jump in it but I put this on 14732 08:32:09,637 --> 08:32:12,141 just because I think most of my 14733 08:32:12,141 --> 08:32:12,906 colleagues share the same 14734 08:32:12,906 --> 08:32:15,906 sentiment and the mayor shares 14735 08:32:17,779 --> 08:32:18,680 it to that it is frustrating to 14736 08:32:18,680 --> 08:32:20,848 have the experience of having 14737 08:32:20,848 --> 08:32:21,449 gone through what we are going 14738 08:32:21,449 --> 08:32:22,149 through with all of these 14739 08:32:22,149 --> 08:32:25,149 vehicles that are just parked 14740 08:32:26,210 --> 08:32:30,221 in a lot. What is it like 69? 14741 08:32:30,358 --> 08:32:30,892 Right? And maybe last time I 14742 08:32:30,892 --> 08:32:31,590 checked only three b 14743 08:32:31,590 --> 08:32:31,860 five of 14744 08:32:31,860 --> 08:32:34,860 them were operational out of 14745 08:32:35,297 --> 08:32:38,297 the 69? Deputy mayor and or 14746 08:32:44,706 --> 08:32:45,407 the mayor if you can give us a 14747 08:32:45,407 --> 08:32:46,208 brief kind of a summary as to 14748 08:32:46,208 --> 08:32:47,209 where we are? I MAY have 14749 08:32:47,209 --> 08:32:47,943 questions of the attorneys 14750 08:32:47,943 --> 08:32:49,244 thereafter but if you can give 14751 08:32:49,244 --> 08:32:51,312 us an update to where we are? 14752 08:32:51,312 --> 08:32:53,312 Ultimately, the underlying 14753 08:32:54,148 --> 08:32:56,385 sentiment on my end anyways is 14754 08:32:56,385 --> 08:32:59,889 just hurts to have all of this 14755 08:32:59,889 --> 08:33:00,823 money parked in a parking lot. 14756 08:33:00,823 --> 08:33:05,228 I know I am not alone in my 14757 08:33:05,228 --> 08:33:05,928 sentiment. What are our 14758 08:33:05,928 --> 08:33:08,731 options? What can we do? Can 14759 08:33:08,731 --> 08:33:09,431 we sell them for parts? Give 14760 08:33:09,431 --> 08:33:10,399 us the lay of the land of where 14761 08:33:10,399 --> 08:33:13,399 we are today? Some articles 14762 08:33:15,138 --> 08:33:15,905 have come up and there hasn't 14763 08:33:15,905 --> 08:33:16,672 been discussion publicly other 14764 08:33:16,672 --> 08:33:17,240 than the reporter. Can you 14765 08:33:17,240 --> 08:33:20,240 bring us up to speed? 14766 08:33:22,812 --> 08:33:23,446 >> yes MR. CHAIRMAN. Let me 14767 08:33:23,446 --> 08:33:24,280 provide historical facts that 14768 08:33:24,280 --> 08:33:24,948 are important for the 14769 08:33:24,948 --> 08:33:26,249 conversation. In 2018 the 14770 08:33:26,249 --> 08:33:27,417 board of county commissioners 14771 08:33:27,417 --> 08:33:30,417 directed the then mayor to 14772 08:33:33,656 --> 08:33:34,590 increase its electric bus 14773 08:33:34,590 --> 08:33:37,590 fleet. The following year in 14774 08:33:40,229 --> 08:33:40,964 2019 that then mayor 14775 08:33:40,964 --> 08:33:41,865 recommended to the commission 14776 08:33:41,865 --> 08:33:44,265 that approved purchasing these 14777 08:33:44,902 --> 08:33:45,803 buses. The bottom line is the 14778 08:33:45,803 --> 08:33:48,803 pro terra buses the company 14779 08:33:49,339 --> 08:33:50,240 went bankrupt because they were 14780 08:33:50,240 --> 08:33:52,209 failed technology. I will go 14781 08:33:52,209 --> 08:33:53,176 so far to say this is it 14782 08:33:53,176 --> 08:33:55,413 excellent example of how we 14783 08:33:55,413 --> 08:33:57,114 need to be more careful buying 14784 08:33:57,114 --> 08:33:59,514 technology. Clearly the mayor 14785 08:34:07,858 --> 08:34:08,592 at the time on a cutting edge 14786 08:34:08,592 --> 08:34:09,360 technology and it was bleeding 14787 08:34:09,360 --> 08:34:10,610 edge. The company went 14788 08:34:10,610 --> 08:34:10,861 bankrupt and the buses don't 14789 08:34:10,861 --> 08:34:11,862 run. We have a few still 14790 08:34:11,862 --> 08:34:12,863 running. Subsequent to that 14791 08:34:12,863 --> 08:34:13,597 the county did by 100 electric 14792 08:34:13,597 --> 08:34:15,997 buses from another manufacturer 14793 08:34:19,170 --> 08:34:20,137 and their performing 14794 08:34:20,137 --> 08:34:20,871 outstandingly. They're doing a 14795 08:34:20,871 --> 08:34:21,772 fine job. It is not the fact 14796 08:34:21,772 --> 08:34:22,373 that they are electric that 14797 08:34:22,373 --> 08:34:23,241 they are the problem the 14798 08:34:23,241 --> 08:34:26,611 problem is we bought buses from 14799 08:34:26,611 --> 08:34:27,512 an unproven company and they 14800 08:34:27,512 --> 08:34:28,112 failed miserably. Where we 14801 08:34:28,112 --> 08:34:28,947 stand today more to your 14802 08:34:28,947 --> 08:34:32,547 question a lot of the buses 14803 08:34:35,854 --> 08:34:36,754 were purchased with federal 14804 08:34:36,754 --> 08:34:37,755 dollars. The department 14805 08:34:37,755 --> 08:34:38,523 requested permission from the 14806 08:34:38,523 --> 08:34:39,324 federal government to dispose 14807 08:34:39,324 --> 08:34:40,391 of these in some way to give us 14808 08:34:40,391 --> 08:34:40,992 some benefits and we are 14809 08:34:40,992 --> 08:34:41,626 waiting on their answer. In 14810 08:34:41,626 --> 08:34:42,393 the meantime we have a handful 14811 08:34:42,393 --> 08:34:43,261 of buses running and we are 14812 08:34:43,261 --> 08:34:45,464 using the majority of them to 14813 08:34:45,464 --> 08:34:48,464 scavenge parts to keep running. 14814 08:34:50,969 --> 08:34:51,703 So yes the department and the 14815 08:34:51,703 --> 08:34:52,504 county attorney has filed suit 14816 08:34:52,504 --> 08:34:55,504 on our behalf. We are 14817 08:35:01,112 --> 08:35:01,747 chastened lawsuits to try to 14818 08:35:01,747 --> 08:35:02,614 recover money. It is a 14819 08:35:02,614 --> 08:35:03,649 bankrupt company so I don't 14820 08:35:03,649 --> 08:35:04,349 know how much we are going to 14821 08:35:04,349 --> 08:35:05,251 recover. We are chasing that 14822 08:35:05,251 --> 08:35:06,385 and looking for the feds to 14823 08:35:06,385 --> 08:35:06,752 lead us to pose -- dispose of 14824 08:35:06,752 --> 08:35:08,752 the buses. 14825 08:35:09,655 --> 08:35:11,390 >> the vast majority and I 14826 08:35:11,390 --> 08:35:14,359 don't know what the percentage 14827 08:35:14,359 --> 08:35:14,962 is was purchased with federal 14828 08:35:14,962 --> 08:35:15,962 dollars needless to say the 14829 08:35:15,962 --> 08:35:18,362 federal dollars could've been 14830 08:35:19,665 --> 08:35:22,650 implement elsewhere. We are 14831 08:35:23,369 --> 08:35:24,236 not responsible for paying the 14832 08:35:24,236 --> 08:35:26,236 federal dollars right? 14833 08:35:32,678 --> 08:35:33,679 >> not that I am aware. 14834 08:35:33,679 --> 08:35:34,680 >> it is wasted money we 14835 08:35:34,680 --> 08:35:35,315 could've invested elsewhere and 14836 08:35:35,315 --> 08:35:36,149 a lot of it. We do not have to 14837 08:35:36,149 --> 08:35:37,951 repay it right? 14838 08:35:37,951 --> 08:35:38,985 >> to be clear MR. Chair we 14839 08:35:38,985 --> 08:35:39,919 have made the application and 14840 08:35:39,919 --> 08:35:40,820 we have had some positive 14841 08:35:40,820 --> 08:35:42,955 responses. But it has not been 14842 08:35:42,955 --> 08:35:44,156 formally concluded. Bruce, do 14843 08:35:44,156 --> 08:35:45,692 you want to add to that? 14844 08:35:45,692 --> 08:35:48,920 >> MR. CHAIRMAN typically when 14845 08:36:00,374 --> 08:36:01,341 you get fta grant to buy buses, 14846 08:36:01,341 --> 08:36:02,309 you agree to utilize buses for 14847 08:36:02,309 --> 08:36:02,976 the use for life. That depends 14848 08:36:02,976 --> 08:36:03,877 on the type of bus 10 years b 14849 08:36:03,877 --> 08:36:06,614 12 years etc. We are in the 14850 08:36:06,614 --> 08:36:07,314 process and we have applied for 14851 08:36:07,314 --> 08:36:11,514 fta to allow us to retire these 14852 08:36:12,753 --> 08:36:13,587 buses that are not operating. 14853 08:36:13,587 --> 08:36:14,554 Prior to what would have 14854 08:36:14,554 --> 08:36:15,290 normally use of life without 14855 08:36:15,290 --> 08:36:17,580 penalty and without having to 14856 08:36:17,580 --> 08:36:20,580 reimburse fta we have not 14857 08:36:29,360 --> 08:36:29,871 received an official response 14858 08:36:29,871 --> 08:36:30,905 or approval yet. 14859 08:36:30,905 --> 08:36:31,572 >> this is a national problem 14860 08:36:31,572 --> 08:36:32,607 to the commission. We are not 14861 08:36:32,607 --> 08:36:33,574 the only city that experienced 14862 08:36:33,574 --> 08:36:34,508 this. We have been attempting 14863 08:36:34,508 --> 08:36:35,377 to repurposed parts and we 14864 08:36:35,377 --> 08:36:36,411 could give more detail about 14865 08:36:36,411 --> 08:36:36,978 that from our director. But 14866 08:36:36,978 --> 08:36:39,978 obviously we want to do 14867 08:36:43,170 --> 08:36:43,885 everything in our power. We 14868 08:36:43,885 --> 08:36:44,852 also sued the company as you 14869 08:36:44,852 --> 08:36:45,821 know when the company went 14870 08:36:45,821 --> 08:36:46,554 bankrupt there was a successor 14871 08:36:46,554 --> 08:36:49,554 company. We were working with 14872 08:36:52,927 --> 08:36:53,962 them and I -- they provide some 14873 08:36:53,962 --> 08:36:54,495 spare parts but eventually we 14874 08:36:54,495 --> 08:36:56,495 did a lawsuit. 14875 08:37:00,469 --> 08:37:04,690 >> one with -- when was that 14876 08:37:04,206 --> 08:37:05,107 to forgive the timeline and 14877 08:37:05,107 --> 08:37:08,707 allow us to dispose of that? 14878 08:37:09,578 --> 08:37:11,279 >> I attended a meeting a few 14879 08:37:11,279 --> 08:37:15,479 weeks ago but I don't know when 14880 08:37:15,685 --> 08:37:16,686 it was actually submitted. 14881 08:37:16,686 --> 08:37:17,420 >> it has been several months 14882 08:37:17,420 --> 08:37:20,420 we have been working through 14883 08:37:22,157 --> 08:37:24,393 the request to relinquish the 14884 08:37:24,393 --> 08:37:27,230 federal interest on the buses 14885 08:37:27,230 --> 08:37:30,230 that were funded through the 14886 08:37:31,634 --> 08:37:32,635 federal transit administration. 14887 08:37:32,635 --> 08:37:34,803 We have had successful meetings 14888 08:37:34,803 --> 08:37:35,638 but we are still waiting for 14889 08:37:35,638 --> 08:37:37,340 their final response. It has 14890 08:37:37,340 --> 08:37:38,675 been several months where we 14891 08:37:38,675 --> 08:37:41,675 have been interacting with fta 14892 08:37:41,744 --> 08:37:42,311 for them to release their 14893 08:37:42,311 --> 08:37:44,311 financial interest. 14894 08:37:46,950 --> 08:37:47,951 >> I don't know if my 14895 08:37:47,951 --> 08:37:49,352 colleagues have any questions 14896 08:37:49,352 --> 08:37:50,654 on this discussion. Up until 14897 08:37:50,654 --> 08:37:52,455 some resolution is given can we 14898 08:37:52,455 --> 08:37:54,855 receive to the administration 14899 08:37:56,126 --> 08:37:58,526 can we receive quarterly 14900 08:37:59,229 --> 08:38:00,196 reports? Is that fair? 14901 08:38:00,196 --> 08:38:03,196 Quarterly reports on the status 14902 08:38:03,934 --> 08:38:04,534 update? I think I know this 14903 08:38:04,534 --> 08:38:07,237 gets a little trickier but if 14904 08:38:07,237 --> 08:38:10,837 we can also receive some sort 14905 08:38:14,444 --> 08:38:15,212 of safeguard guardrails for 14906 08:38:15,212 --> 08:38:17,140 future purchases of this kind 14907 08:38:17,140 --> 08:38:19,683 so that we don't repeat 14908 08:38:19,683 --> 08:38:23,283 history? And of course that is 14909 08:38:27,580 --> 08:38:30,580 the policy the -- decision. 14910 08:38:30,940 --> 08:38:33,694 Can we have maybe a memo 14911 08:38:33,797 --> 08:38:34,465 establishing recommended 14912 08:38:34,465 --> 08:38:35,366 guardrails to when we make 14913 08:38:35,366 --> 08:38:37,766 these policy decisions and 14914 08:38:41,372 --> 08:38:42,273 directives up here, I know what 14915 08:38:42,273 --> 08:38:42,940 gilbert is thinking don't tell 14916 08:38:42,940 --> 08:38:47,140 us how to govern. But I think 14917 08:38:49,614 --> 08:38:50,615 we need some measures, right? 14918 08:38:50,615 --> 08:38:54,815 As soon not allow history to be 14919 08:38:58,223 --> 08:38:59,123 repeated. As we move forward 14920 08:38:59,123 --> 08:38:59,824 even things outside of 14921 08:38:59,824 --> 08:39:00,625 transportation and outside of 14922 08:39:00,625 --> 08:39:01,393 buses and things of that 14923 08:39:01,393 --> 08:39:02,327 nature. But we are coming up 14924 08:39:02,327 --> 08:39:06,527 not coming up we are here today 14925 08:39:13,772 --> 08:39:14,773 in a world where ai is ever 14926 08:39:14,773 --> 08:39:15,741 changing, technology and we are 14927 08:39:15,741 --> 08:39:16,509 going to be making these 14928 08:39:16,509 --> 08:39:17,343 decision of his investing in a 14929 08:39:17,343 --> 08:39:18,210 lot of new technology. We are 14930 08:39:18,210 --> 08:39:18,944 doing it already and we're 14931 08:39:18,944 --> 08:39:19,878 going to continue doing it. We 14932 08:39:19,878 --> 08:39:20,713 have to do it smartly and with 14933 08:39:20,713 --> 08:39:23,713 the right consultants and the 14934 08:39:23,882 --> 08:39:24,883 right expertise. If we can 14935 08:39:24,883 --> 08:39:25,851 have some sort of guardrail? I 14936 08:39:25,851 --> 08:39:26,686 know it is tricky because 14937 08:39:26,686 --> 08:39:29,860 everything is changing so 14938 08:39:30,389 --> 08:39:31,560 often. If that is feasible 14939 08:39:31,560 --> 08:39:31,690 matter mayor? 14940 08:39:31,690 --> 08:39:32,391 >> thank you MR. Chair. 14941 08:39:32,391 --> 08:39:35,991 Obviously, there's a lot of new 14942 08:39:47,607 --> 08:39:48,508 things in the market place. We 14943 08:39:48,508 --> 08:39:49,108 are always being asking in a 14944 08:39:49,108 --> 08:39:49,876 solid ways and many vendors 14945 08:39:49,876 --> 08:39:50,910 have new ideas. As was 14946 08:39:50,910 --> 08:39:51,544 mentioned by deputy mayor, we 14947 08:39:51,544 --> 08:39:52,378 want make sure there's a track 14948 08:39:52,378 --> 08:39:53,120 record. We do not want to be 14949 08:39:53,120 --> 08:39:54,790 the guinea pigs. In this 14950 08:39:54,790 --> 08:39:55,148 particular case going backwards 14951 08:39:55,148 --> 08:39:56,850 in time, I was a commissioner 14952 08:39:56,850 --> 08:39:57,984 at the time. The company was a 14953 08:39:57,984 --> 08:39:58,919 leader and batteries but not in 14954 08:39:58,919 --> 08:39:59,886 buses. So the company that 14955 08:39:59,886 --> 08:40:00,920 actually did the buses was 14956 08:40:00,920 --> 08:40:01,921 rejected and the company that 14957 08:40:01,921 --> 08:40:02,922 focused on batteries was 14958 08:40:02,922 --> 08:40:03,857 accepted. Under our 14959 08:40:03,857 --> 08:40:06,257 procurement we would always 14960 08:40:09,329 --> 08:40:10,630 have experience, track records, 14961 08:40:10,630 --> 08:40:13,630 performance data and that sort 14962 08:40:15,636 --> 08:40:16,303 of thing. But we can look at 14963 08:40:16,303 --> 08:40:17,237 those criteria and see how we 14964 08:40:17,237 --> 08:40:18,138 can beef them up to make sure 14965 08:40:18,138 --> 08:40:18,372 we don't make mistakes of this 14966 08:40:18,372 --> 08:40:19,773 sort. 14967 08:40:19,773 --> 08:40:22,773 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN. In 14968 08:40:24,477 --> 08:40:25,746 the spirit of guardrails, I 14969 08:40:25,746 --> 08:40:27,480 think probably an appropriate 14970 08:40:27,480 --> 08:40:30,480 standard would be making sure 14971 08:40:32,453 --> 08:40:33,687 some things is agnostic enough 14972 08:40:33,687 --> 08:40:37,887 it is not usable by the vendor 14973 08:40:40,961 --> 08:40:41,729 that we get it from. That is 14974 08:40:41,729 --> 08:40:42,997 probably how we need to look at 14975 08:40:42,997 --> 08:40:43,698 it because I appreciate the 14976 08:40:43,698 --> 08:40:46,698 mayor's position but we won't 14977 08:40:48,690 --> 08:40:48,837 always be in a position where 14978 08:40:48,837 --> 08:40:50,739 we can wait. That is not 14979 08:40:50,739 --> 08:40:52,474 realistic. It is cool to say 14980 08:40:52,474 --> 08:40:55,177 but from our perspective we 14981 08:40:55,177 --> 08:40:57,813 will have to be at some point 14982 08:40:57,813 --> 08:41:00,813 make some decisions where we 14983 08:41:03,484 --> 08:41:06,484 don't know their is enough. 14984 08:41:11,226 --> 08:41:11,926 There is 45 counties but if you 14985 08:41:11,926 --> 08:41:12,861 use technology that is agnostic 14986 08:41:12,861 --> 08:41:15,970 in a way but such that company 14987 08:41:15,970 --> 08:41:17,233 goes out of business, you can 14988 08:41:17,233 --> 08:41:20,233 still actually work with other 14989 08:41:20,703 --> 08:41:24,903 folks. And so I think about it 14990 08:41:27,760 --> 08:41:28,430 in terms of transit, rapid mass 14991 08:41:28,430 --> 08:41:28,644 transit. We don't know we 14992 08:41:28,644 --> 08:41:32,244 change the lpa for the north 14993 08:41:36,386 --> 08:41:37,200 corridor to be elevated fixed 14994 08:41:37,200 --> 08:41:37,954 guideway. We changed it 14995 08:41:37,954 --> 08:41:38,887 because he wanted to be open to 14996 08:41:38,887 --> 08:41:39,555 different technologies and not 14997 08:41:39,555 --> 08:41:40,490 elevated heavy rail. Heavy 14998 08:41:40,490 --> 08:41:41,691 rail is too expensive for us. 14999 08:41:41,691 --> 08:41:44,910 We change fixed guideway 15000 08:41:44,930 --> 08:41:46,930 technologies or new 15001 08:41:46,930 --> 08:41:49,930 technologies. How can we use 15002 08:41:50,600 --> 08:41:51,567 them. We use them by doing a 15003 08:41:51,567 --> 08:41:54,567 fixed guideway that allows for 15004 08:41:57,507 --> 08:41:58,375 other modes so that one doesn't 15005 08:41:58,375 --> 08:41:59,760 work we can still replace it. 15006 08:41:59,760 --> 08:41:59,842 I think that is how we need to 15007 08:41:59,842 --> 08:42:00,744 probably approach our 15008 08:42:00,744 --> 08:42:03,144 procurements when we are 15009 08:42:04,847 --> 08:42:09,470 looking at that and when we are 15010 08:42:09,987 --> 08:42:10,854 evaluating that. What it is 15011 08:42:10,854 --> 08:42:11,487 proposed and what it can be 15012 08:42:11,487 --> 08:42:12,389 used for. I think that is an 15013 08:42:12,389 --> 08:42:14,789 appropriate guardrail to look 15014 08:42:15,559 --> 08:42:17,270 at. MR. CHAIRMAN thank you. 15015 08:42:17,270 --> 08:42:20,270 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN I 15016 08:42:20,197 --> 08:42:23,967 think I am going to borrow a 15017 08:42:23,967 --> 08:42:24,801 quote from our colleague. I'm 15018 08:42:24,801 --> 08:42:26,804 not going to tell you I told 15019 08:42:26,804 --> 08:42:28,272 you so but I told you so. 15020 08:42:28,272 --> 08:42:31,872 Years ago when I was in 15021 08:42:33,243 --> 08:42:35,643 tallahassee I organized the 15022 08:42:38,416 --> 08:42:41,385 leaders to push against forcing 15023 08:42:41,385 --> 08:42:42,850 a mode of transportation 15024 08:42:42,850 --> 08:42:44,485 particularly the crt against 15025 08:42:46,157 --> 08:42:47,925 the wishes of the people. I 15026 08:42:47,925 --> 08:42:49,727 stood there at that podium and 15027 08:42:49,727 --> 08:42:50,295 we had all the research we 15028 08:42:50,295 --> 08:42:52,695 needed to convince the 15029 08:42:54,665 --> 08:42:55,467 commission then that going 15030 08:42:55,467 --> 08:42:58,467 opposite of what the people 15031 08:42:59,170 --> 08:43:02,406 want it was truly going to be a 15032 08:43:02,406 --> 08:43:04,709 disaster. We stood at that 15033 08:43:04,709 --> 08:43:08,909 podium and gave a reason why it 15034 08:43:09,314 --> 08:43:10,480 should have been the preferred 15035 08:43:10,480 --> 08:43:11,749 choice for the folks down 15036 08:43:11,749 --> 08:43:15,287 south. And also we told them 15037 08:43:15,287 --> 08:43:15,988 they should have used that 15038 08:43:15,988 --> 08:43:16,922 opportunity to connect the 15039 08:43:16,922 --> 08:43:20,522 north and the south bar rail. 15040 08:43:23,695 --> 08:43:24,329 We thought opportunity was 15041 08:43:24,329 --> 08:43:26,432 presenting itself at that 15042 08:43:26,432 --> 08:43:29,432 particular moment it was right. 15043 08:43:30,202 --> 08:43:33,472 We were told that we were wrong 15044 08:43:33,472 --> 08:43:34,406 that deals had already been 15045 08:43:34,406 --> 08:43:36,806 made in conversations that 15046 08:43:37,510 --> 08:43:40,413 already been had and the issue 15047 08:43:40,413 --> 08:43:41,413 was over and done with. 15048 08:43:41,413 --> 08:43:43,916 Subsequently I came back and I 15049 08:43:43,916 --> 08:43:46,953 said hey, I think we have more 15050 08:43:46,953 --> 08:43:47,520 problems with these companies 15051 08:43:47,520 --> 08:43:49,520 particularly with their 15052 08:43:49,655 --> 08:43:49,922 financial stability. 15053 08:43:49,922 --> 08:43:51,922 . We were 15054 08:43:56,196 --> 08:43:57,197 told no that is me overlooking 15055 08:43:57,197 --> 08:43:59,597 particular documents that I 15056 08:43:59,999 --> 08:44:02,669 should simply mind my own 15057 08:44:02,669 --> 08:44:06,269 business in so many words. The 15058 08:44:06,473 --> 08:44:07,140 correlation in south dade south 15059 08:44:07,140 --> 08:44:10,243 for both the north and the 15060 08:44:10,243 --> 08:44:13,813 sound but we ended up and was 15061 08:44:13,813 --> 08:44:16,813 told that electric buses that 15062 08:44:17,216 --> 08:44:17,984 have been sitting in this 15063 08:44:17,984 --> 08:44:18,851 graveyard and that is what we 15064 08:44:18,851 --> 08:44:22,451 should call it is a bus 15065 08:44:23,422 --> 08:44:24,189 graveyard. They were going to 15066 08:44:24,189 --> 08:44:25,591 be the answer to save the south 15067 08:44:25,591 --> 08:44:28,591 dade people from misery. I 15068 08:44:31,620 --> 08:44:31,830 then took a trip over to the 15069 08:44:31,830 --> 08:44:32,730 department of transportation 15070 08:44:32,730 --> 08:44:36,330 and had an opportunity to see 15071 08:44:36,634 --> 08:44:39,704 the buses. They were dead then 15072 08:44:39,704 --> 08:44:43,904 as they are dead now. So now 15073 08:44:46,510 --> 08:44:47,478 the question really begun what 15074 08:44:47,478 --> 08:44:48,378 do we go back and tell people 15075 08:44:48,378 --> 08:44:48,946 of the south dade community and 15076 08:44:48,946 --> 08:44:49,913 the people in north dade 15077 08:44:49,913 --> 08:44:51,315 community about whether or not 15078 08:44:51,315 --> 08:44:53,715 their choices were overlooked 15079 08:44:57,120 --> 08:44:57,787 due to other reasons that they 15080 08:44:57,787 --> 08:45:01,987 had no privy to? Why do I 15081 08:45:04,560 --> 08:45:05,561 bring all that up? I am sure 15082 08:45:05,561 --> 08:45:09,161 that there were deals that were 15083 08:45:12,501 --> 08:45:13,502 never made available to the 15084 08:45:13,502 --> 08:45:15,370 people. The deals they had 15085 08:45:15,370 --> 08:45:16,204 information about they would 15086 08:45:16,204 --> 08:45:19,204 have rallied against all of 15087 08:45:21,476 --> 08:45:22,443 this. They would have called 15088 08:45:22,443 --> 08:45:23,344 for resignations. They would 15089 08:45:23,344 --> 08:45:25,379 have called for investigations. 15090 08:45:25,379 --> 08:45:27,715 But we are here now. And I 15091 08:45:27,715 --> 08:45:29,820 have full faith in my mayor, I 15092 08:45:29,820 --> 08:45:30,818 have full faith in this 15093 08:45:30,818 --> 08:45:33,320 commission that we are going to 15094 08:45:33,320 --> 08:45:35,255 do the right thing. Because at 15095 08:45:35,255 --> 08:45:39,455 the end of the day let's be 15096 08:45:39,793 --> 08:45:40,827 absolutely clear, we still need 15097 08:45:40,827 --> 08:45:44,427 the rail down south. I am 15098 08:45:45,732 --> 08:45:46,733 telling you, have said bart was 15099 08:45:46,733 --> 08:45:49,869 the wrong choice then and I am 15100 08:45:49,869 --> 08:45:50,569 telling you it is still the 15101 08:45:50,569 --> 08:45:51,504 wrong choice and I'm telling 15102 08:45:51,504 --> 08:45:55,700 you simply by looking at what 15103 08:45:55,700 --> 08:45:56,700 is going on today by these 15104 08:45:56,700 --> 08:45:59,700 reports, it echoes exactly what 15105 08:46:05,216 --> 08:46:05,917 I have been saying. That it 15106 08:46:05,917 --> 08:46:06,751 was an inside job and it was 15107 08:46:06,751 --> 08:46:07,652 that inside hit on the great 15108 08:46:07,652 --> 08:46:08,319 people of south dade that 15109 08:46:08,319 --> 08:46:09,287 affect the people of north 15110 08:46:09,287 --> 08:46:10,288 dade. At some point we have to 15111 08:46:10,288 --> 08:46:10,888 come to realize that when we 15112 08:46:10,888 --> 08:46:11,656 were calling for the real to 15113 08:46:11,656 --> 08:46:14,656 the south bay community was 15114 08:46:16,560 --> 08:46:17,361 less than $1 billion. When we 15115 08:46:17,361 --> 08:46:21,561 called for it it was less than 15116 08:46:23,100 --> 08:46:24,670 $600 million. Now we are stuck 15117 08:46:24,670 --> 08:46:26,467 with the possibility and 15118 08:46:27,670 --> 08:46:28,605 looking for a rail to the now 15119 08:46:28,605 --> 08:46:29,372 we are stuck with the 15120 08:46:29,372 --> 08:46:30,173 possibility and looking for a 15121 08:46:30,173 --> 08:46:31,574 rail to the s. Somewhere way 15122 08:46:31,574 --> 08:46:33,475 beyond $3 billion. And now we 15123 08:46:33,475 --> 08:46:36,475 are dealing with this bus 15124 08:46:40,282 --> 08:46:41,250 fiasco. Buses that are found 15125 08:46:41,250 --> 08:46:42,840 at a graveyard that is taking 15126 08:46:42,840 --> 08:46:45,684 up space. That we can't get 15127 08:46:49,757 --> 08:46:50,658 our money back. Information we 15128 08:46:50,658 --> 08:46:51,526 had readily available at the 15129 08:46:51,526 --> 08:46:52,227 time we made the decision to 15130 08:46:52,227 --> 08:46:53,161 make this purchase. But again 15131 08:46:53,161 --> 08:46:53,994 I have full faith in my mayor, 15132 08:46:53,994 --> 08:46:54,762 I have full faith in our 15133 08:46:54,762 --> 08:46:55,496 commission that we are going to 15134 08:46:55,496 --> 08:46:56,163 do the right thing and not 15135 08:46:56,163 --> 08:46:59,763 allow this debacle to be the 15136 08:47:05,380 --> 08:47:05,772 face of our transportation 15137 08:47:05,772 --> 08:47:06,573 system. I do have a lot of 15138 08:47:06,573 --> 08:47:07,273 faith and our director who is 15139 08:47:07,273 --> 08:47:08,108 going to get us through it 15140 08:47:08,108 --> 08:47:08,675 because she has been on the 15141 08:47:08,675 --> 08:47:09,609 frontline doing the right 15142 08:47:09,609 --> 08:47:10,276 things. I just wanted to put 15143 08:47:10,276 --> 08:47:11,211 that on the record. Again I am 15144 08:47:11,211 --> 08:47:13,513 not going to say I told you so 15145 08:47:13,513 --> 08:47:16,513 but I told you so. 15146 08:47:17,817 --> 08:47:18,351 >> I have a question because 15147 08:47:18,351 --> 08:47:18,951 I'm a little bit for the 15148 08:47:18,951 --> 08:47:21,220 attorneys. Do we have to 15149 08:47:21,220 --> 08:47:22,121 reimburse the federal 15150 08:47:22,121 --> 08:47:25,121 government on this grant or 15151 08:47:25,391 --> 08:47:27,391 not? 15152 08:47:30,562 --> 08:47:32,562 >> currently, no. 15153 08:47:44,141 --> 08:47:45,420 >> it is yes or no? 15154 08:47:45,420 --> 08:47:45,743 >> you can get the consent 15155 08:47:45,743 --> 08:47:49,343 from fda to retire them early. 15156 08:47:52,949 --> 08:47:54,500 Dtw is not retarded them but is 15157 08:47:54,500 --> 08:47:54,918 asking fda concurrence to allow 15158 08:47:54,918 --> 08:47:55,886 us to retire them early. If we 15159 08:47:55,886 --> 08:47:57,320 get the concurrence we can 15160 08:47:57,320 --> 08:47:57,954 retire them and move them use 15161 08:47:57,954 --> 08:47:58,788 it for scrap metal. If we 15162 08:47:58,788 --> 08:47:59,923 don't either we reimburse the 15163 08:47:59,923 --> 08:48:02,923 federal government at a pro 15164 08:48:05,594 --> 08:48:06,228 rata portion or they would 15165 08:48:06,228 --> 08:48:06,462 either going to service or sit 15166 08:48:06,462 --> 08:48:08,462 there. 15167 08:48:10,132 --> 08:48:13,732 >> as it stands now keeping it 15168 08:48:17,239 --> 08:48:17,572 for the full life 10 b 15169 08:48:17,572 --> 08:48:18,573 15 they 15170 08:48:18,573 --> 08:48:19,507 are not working but we can keep 15171 08:48:19,507 --> 08:48:20,175 them. They could be sitting 15172 08:48:20,175 --> 08:48:21,750 where they sit right now 15173 08:48:21,750 --> 08:48:24,750 everybody can take pictures and 15174 08:48:24,612 --> 08:48:28,812 what a fiasco. If we do have 15175 08:48:35,889 --> 08:48:36,523 that agreement then we would be 15176 08:48:36,523 --> 08:48:37,390 able to do whatever we want 15177 08:48:37,390 --> 08:48:38,910 with them. We can sell them 15178 08:48:38,910 --> 08:48:38,925 for scrap metal, we can sell it 15179 08:48:38,925 --> 08:48:39,559 to the city of miami. I am 15180 08:48:39,559 --> 08:48:40,393 just getting. We can do 15181 08:48:40,393 --> 08:48:40,660 whatever we want with it 15182 08:48:40,660 --> 08:48:42,660 correct? 15183 08:48:49,368 --> 08:48:50,736 >> yes, depending on the terms 15184 08:48:50,736 --> 08:48:52,505 the fda would give. If they 15185 08:48:52,505 --> 08:48:53,139 allow us to retire or dispose 15186 08:48:53,139 --> 08:48:57,939 of them, we could do with it as 15187 08:49:00,120 --> 08:49:03,480 we please, yes. They would rig 15188 08:49:03,480 --> 08:49:04,115 -- relinquish it. 15189 08:49:04,115 --> 08:49:08,315 >> I do not want to impact the 15190 08:49:11,289 --> 08:49:11,956 litigation. It is our feeling 15191 08:49:11,956 --> 08:49:12,857 are understand that the entity 15192 08:49:12,857 --> 08:49:13,524 is no longer viable and they 15193 08:49:13,524 --> 08:49:14,224 have declared bankruptcy is 15194 08:49:14,224 --> 08:49:15,694 that correct? 15195 08:49:15,694 --> 08:49:17,694 >> the original manufacturer 15196 08:49:22,567 --> 08:49:24,680 who delivered the bus it -- 15197 08:49:24,680 --> 08:49:26,468 buses -- [Indiscernible]. They 15198 08:49:32,377 --> 08:49:33,278 filed assume the contract so we 15199 08:49:33,278 --> 08:49:36,278 have terminated and filed suit 15200 08:49:36,815 --> 08:49:37,850 with them. 15201 08:49:37,850 --> 08:49:40,850 >> in that contract with the 15202 08:49:42,421 --> 08:49:43,121 original entity if there was an 15203 08:49:43,121 --> 08:49:44,880 amendment with phoenix was 15204 08:49:44,880 --> 08:49:46,892 there any clause for liquidated 15205 08:49:46,892 --> 08:49:48,494 damages if in fact they were 15206 08:49:48,494 --> 08:49:50,429 not able to provide the service 15207 08:49:50,429 --> 08:49:53,429 that they would able to 15208 08:50:00,500 --> 08:50:01,140 provide? 15209 08:50:01,140 --> 08:50:01,740 >> I have to look into it. I 15210 08:50:01,740 --> 08:50:02,707 do not want to give an answer 15211 08:50:02,707 --> 08:50:05,707 without having the contract in 15212 08:50:07,480 --> 08:50:08,248 front of me. The issue is not 15213 08:50:08,248 --> 08:50:11,848 the delivery of the buses. The 15214 08:50:13,285 --> 08:50:14,860 issue would have been on the 15215 08:50:14,860 --> 08:50:14,720 warranty. The buses were 15216 08:50:14,720 --> 08:50:15,889 delivered. So I need to look 15217 08:50:15,889 --> 08:50:16,656 and see if there was a specific 15218 08:50:16,656 --> 08:50:19,656 damage provision as it pertains 15219 08:50:21,827 --> 08:50:22,261 to warranty. And parts that 15220 08:50:22,261 --> 08:50:23,696 were not provided. 15221 08:50:23,696 --> 08:50:26,696 >> the final question is, do 15222 08:50:26,967 --> 08:50:27,901 you have a timeline on where 15223 08:50:27,901 --> 08:50:30,901 you would expect the federal 15224 08:50:35,643 --> 08:50:36,610 government to respond by? 15225 08:50:36,610 --> 08:50:37,177 >> I would defer to the 15226 08:50:37,177 --> 08:50:38,212 director on the issue. 15227 08:50:38,212 --> 08:50:39,112 >> we would hope they would 15228 08:50:39,112 --> 08:50:39,881 have already responded. They 15229 08:50:39,881 --> 08:50:40,781 came with a few more questions 15230 08:50:40,781 --> 08:50:41,748 that we are answering. So we 15231 08:50:41,748 --> 08:50:44,148 are anticipating within the 15232 08:50:47,187 --> 08:50:48,122 next awfully month or two we 15233 08:50:48,122 --> 08:50:48,822 can get resolution with fda 15234 08:50:48,822 --> 08:50:50,657 regarding their financial 15235 08:50:50,657 --> 08:50:51,625 interest. 15236 08:50:51,625 --> 08:50:54,962 >> when do they come back with 15237 08:50:54,962 --> 08:50:55,696 questions? When did they come 15238 08:50:55,696 --> 08:50:57,696 back with questions? 15239 08:50:57,732 --> 08:50:59,233 >> I believe it was last week 15240 08:50:59,233 --> 08:51:01,402 or the week before last. It 15241 08:51:01,402 --> 08:51:03,837 was within the last two weeks 15242 08:51:03,837 --> 08:51:04,905 that they requested additional 15243 08:51:04,905 --> 08:51:06,441 information and we have been 15244 08:51:06,441 --> 08:51:08,441 corresponding with them. 15245 08:51:11,479 --> 08:51:12,346 >> so essentially we are 15246 08:51:12,346 --> 08:51:13,381 hoping that after we answer the 15247 08:51:13,381 --> 08:51:16,981 questions we will get a final 15248 08:51:19,120 --> 08:51:20,121 response. But there's a 15249 08:51:20,121 --> 08:51:20,655 possibility they MAY ask more 15250 08:51:20,655 --> 08:51:21,656 questions correct? 15251 08:51:21,656 --> 08:51:22,323 >> there is. We had a very 15252 08:51:22,323 --> 08:51:23,324 productive meeting with them a 15253 08:51:23,324 --> 08:51:26,924 few weeks ago. We thought we 15254 08:51:28,363 --> 08:51:29,297 answered all of their questions 15255 08:51:29,297 --> 08:51:30,331 and we are waiting for their 15256 08:51:30,331 --> 08:51:33,331 final response. When they did 15257 08:51:34,636 --> 08:51:35,670 come backs -- come back with 15258 08:51:35,670 --> 08:51:36,438 additional questions. It is 15259 08:51:36,438 --> 08:51:38,720 possible that they can come 15260 08:51:38,720 --> 08:51:38,873 back with additional questions 15261 08:51:38,873 --> 08:51:41,273 it is their prerogative. 15262 08:51:42,344 --> 08:51:43,278 >> it MAY have been the chair 15263 08:51:43,278 --> 08:51:45,681 that said it, we need to be 15264 08:51:45,681 --> 08:51:48,681 updated periodically on this in 15265 08:51:48,784 --> 08:51:51,553 a shorter time period than a 15266 08:51:51,553 --> 08:51:51,953 longer one. It has been going 15267 08:51:51,953 --> 08:51:54,353 on for a while. 15268 08:51:54,856 --> 08:51:55,124 > I am -- we are happy to 15269 08:51:55,124 --> 08:51:57,124 do that. 15270 08:51:58,494 --> 08:52:00,894 >> quarterly are as new 15271 08:52:01,263 --> 08:52:03,263 information becomes available. 15272 08:52:05,468 --> 08:52:07,868 I have tried it. 15273 08:52:11,273 --> 08:52:12,740 >> to follow up with what 15274 08:52:12,740 --> 08:52:13,976 commissioner bermudez was 15275 08:52:13,976 --> 08:52:14,643 saying I think we should make a 15276 08:52:14,643 --> 08:52:17,480 motion to provide air support 15277 08:52:17,480 --> 08:52:18,514 to the department by tasking 15278 08:52:18,514 --> 08:52:20,650 our federal lobbyist to make 15279 08:52:20,650 --> 08:52:22,751 this their number one priority. 15280 08:52:22,751 --> 08:52:25,355 I think that is what we need to 15281 08:52:25,355 --> 08:52:26,289 do. GOD bless them their 15282 08:52:26,289 --> 08:52:26,923 calling in there doing their 15283 08:52:26,923 --> 08:52:30,226 thing that we have a federal 15284 08:52:30,226 --> 08:52:31,895 lobbying team. They could 15285 08:52:31,895 --> 08:52:33,696 help. I think every day that 15286 08:52:33,696 --> 08:52:35,990 we lose on this we lose an 15287 08:52:35,990 --> 08:52:37,499 opportunity to do something 15288 08:52:41,438 --> 08:52:42,472 with these buses. I think we 15289 08:52:42,472 --> 08:52:43,440 should make this a priority for 15290 08:52:43,440 --> 08:52:44,340 our federal lobbying team. 15291 08:52:44,340 --> 08:52:44,941 >> I don't think we need a 15292 08:52:44,941 --> 08:52:47,941 motion for that. Just direct 15293 08:52:48,712 --> 08:52:49,713 our federal lobbying team to 15294 08:52:49,713 --> 08:52:52,113 engage with transportation to 15295 08:52:55,987 --> 08:52:57,210 do that. That definitely 15296 08:52:57,210 --> 08:52:57,621 should be done for sure. In 15297 08:52:57,621 --> 08:52:59,621 collaboration with our 15298 08:53:00,570 --> 08:53:01,580 director. 15299 08:53:01,580 --> 08:53:02,590 >> in terms of the lawsuit i 15300 08:53:02,590 --> 08:53:05,590 just have some questions for 15301 08:53:06,731 --> 08:53:07,765 our attorneys. I think the 15302 08:53:07,765 --> 08:53:08,465 disposition from the fda is 15303 08:53:08,465 --> 08:53:09,533 important because then we have 15304 08:53:09,533 --> 08:53:11,933 the secondary conversation as 15305 08:53:15,407 --> 08:53:16,474 to what we do with those buses. 15306 08:53:16,474 --> 08:53:17,375 Right now without determination 15307 08:53:17,375 --> 08:53:18,343 from fda they are just sitting 15308 08:53:18,343 --> 08:53:19,243 there. They are sitting there 15309 08:53:19,243 --> 08:53:19,910 we are using the opportunity to 15310 08:53:19,910 --> 08:53:20,911 monetize them in terms of 15311 08:53:20,911 --> 08:53:22,213 selling them for parts scrap or 15312 08:53:22,213 --> 08:53:25,813 will fixing them. In terms of 15313 08:53:26,818 --> 08:53:27,452 the lawsuit obviously a lot of 15314 08:53:27,452 --> 08:53:28,320 people are involved and we 15315 08:53:28,320 --> 08:53:31,920 talked about that it is a 15316 08:53:33,791 --> 08:53:34,525 national issue. Have we looked 15317 08:53:34,525 --> 08:53:37,525 at doing anything with these 15318 08:53:38,363 --> 08:53:39,364 buses could impact that 15319 08:53:39,364 --> 08:53:41,764 lawsuit? My understanding is 15320 08:53:47,406 --> 08:53:48,373 that is not the cut -- case. 15321 08:53:48,373 --> 08:53:50,575 One thing is the fta allows us 15322 08:53:50,575 --> 08:53:50,875 to do another thing is the 15323 08:53:50,875 --> 08:53:52,875 buses? 15324 08:53:55,181 --> 08:53:57,483 >> it would be the fta impacts 15325 08:53:57,483 --> 08:53:59,317 the lawsuit either way. 15326 08:53:59,317 --> 08:54:02,317 >> in terms of the lawsuit 15327 08:54:02,454 --> 08:54:04,854 what are your timing 15328 08:54:04,923 --> 08:54:05,625 predictions for that? How long 15329 08:54:05,625 --> 08:54:07,660 ? There are a lot of people 15330 08:54:07,660 --> 08:54:11,260 and involves and that is always 15331 08:54:13,332 --> 08:54:15,332 complicated. 15332 08:54:21,107 --> 08:54:21,941 >> litigation was initiated 15333 08:54:21,941 --> 08:54:22,708 recently and I believe their 15334 08:54:22,708 --> 08:54:22,842 response is due in the next two 15335 08:54:22,842 --> 08:54:24,842 b 15336 08:54:28,681 --> 08:54:29,415 three weeks. We are at the 15337 08:54:29,415 --> 08:54:30,349 front end of the litigation so 15338 08:54:30,349 --> 08:54:31,350 I can give you a timetable 15339 08:54:31,350 --> 08:54:32,518 because it will be a schedule 15340 08:54:32,518 --> 08:54:33,452 in order issued by the court. 15341 08:54:33,452 --> 08:54:37,520 I realistically can give you a 15342 08:54:39,459 --> 08:54:40,527 timetable at the time on when 15343 08:54:40,527 --> 08:54:41,294 the matter would be resolved. 15344 08:54:41,294 --> 08:54:42,950 >> okay. Alright I agree that 15345 08:54:42,950 --> 08:54:45,695 we should take some sort of 15346 08:54:46,433 --> 08:54:47,434 policy decision. Make 15347 08:54:47,434 --> 08:54:48,402 different mistakes and while I 15348 08:54:48,402 --> 08:54:49,435 understand what commissioner 15349 08:54:49,435 --> 08:54:53,350 gilbert is saying in terms of 15350 08:54:53,540 --> 08:54:54,607 swapping out parts, I think 15351 08:54:54,607 --> 08:54:55,275 there are two separate things 15352 08:54:55,275 --> 08:54:56,430 going on. Number one is how 15353 08:54:56,430 --> 08:54:57,645 long has technology been out 15354 08:54:57,645 --> 08:55:00,450 there? Was it demonstrated 15355 08:55:01,348 --> 08:55:02,249 somewhere? Is the technology 15356 08:55:02,249 --> 08:55:05,849 one where we could swap out 15357 08:55:13,293 --> 08:55:14,261 parts? 15358 08:55:14,261 --> 08:55:15,363 >> thank you MR. Chair. I am 15359 08:55:15,363 --> 08:55:15,830 listening diligently to all of 15360 08:55:15,830 --> 08:55:16,764 my colleagues. In 15361 08:55:16,764 --> 08:55:17,331 acknowledging this report there 15362 08:55:17,331 --> 08:55:18,266 are two things that are 15363 08:55:18,266 --> 08:55:21,101 happening here. So the first 15364 08:55:21,101 --> 08:55:22,200 one is past mistakes. I think 15365 08:55:22,200 --> 08:55:23,300 it is important to put on a 15366 08:55:23,300 --> 08:55:25,807 record that the protector issue 15367 08:55:25,807 --> 08:55:26,541 is an issue that affected the 15368 08:55:26,541 --> 08:55:28,541 entire united states. 15369 08:55:28,676 --> 08:55:31,676 Attorneys are not saying this 15370 08:55:31,846 --> 08:55:36,460 it is almost a defraud men that 15371 08:55:46,562 --> 08:55:47,329 happen not only on miami dade 15372 08:55:47,329 --> 08:55:47,996 county but many counties 15373 08:55:47,996 --> 08:55:48,864 throughout florida, texas, 15374 08:55:48,864 --> 08:55:49,865 washington north carolina, 15375 08:55:49,865 --> 08:55:50,866 michigan and wyoming. I like 15376 08:55:50,866 --> 08:55:51,866 the course of action we have 15377 08:55:51,866 --> 08:55:52,500 taken with the lawsuit and 15378 08:55:52,500 --> 08:55:53,468 consulting with the federal 15379 08:55:53,468 --> 08:55:54,335 government to make sure that we 15380 08:55:54,335 --> 08:55:55,337 are able to recoup some of 15381 08:55:55,337 --> 08:55:56,338 these funds and able to move 15382 08:55:56,338 --> 08:55:58,373 forward doing something that 15383 08:55:58,373 --> 08:56:01,973 works. But number two we don't 15384 08:56:06,810 --> 08:56:07,160 make this mistake again. And 15385 08:56:07,160 --> 08:56:07,716 that we go after this company 15386 08:56:07,716 --> 08:56:09,552 and all of these bad actors 15387 08:56:09,552 --> 08:56:10,219 with the furthest extent of the 15388 08:56:10,219 --> 08:56:11,253 law and all options available 15389 08:56:11,253 --> 08:56:13,653 from what I understand 15390 08:56:15,580 --> 08:56:16,590 administration is already in 15391 08:56:16,590 --> 08:56:18,560 that course and I do appreciate 15392 08:56:18,560 --> 08:56:22,160 that. The second thing we have 15393 08:56:27,170 --> 08:56:28,710 to contemplate is what we are 15394 08:56:28,710 --> 08:56:29,380 going to do in the future. I 15395 08:56:29,380 --> 08:56:30,390 think the CHAIRMAN Was already 15396 08:56:30,390 --> 08:56:30,740 alluding to that. We do need 15397 08:56:30,740 --> 08:56:31,640 guardrails and I am currently 15398 08:56:31,640 --> 08:56:32,708 working on legislation that I'm 15399 08:56:32,708 --> 08:56:33,609 putting together to put some of 15400 08:56:33,609 --> 08:56:34,710 these guardrails in place so 15401 08:56:34,710 --> 08:56:37,714 that in the future we don't 15402 08:56:37,714 --> 08:56:40,114 purchase any of these 15403 08:56:41,184 --> 08:56:41,851 technologies without 15404 08:56:41,851 --> 08:56:42,752 understanding what the return 15405 08:56:42,752 --> 08:56:44,220 on investment is. One thing 15406 08:56:44,220 --> 08:56:48,420 that I did take from the report 15407 08:56:50,827 --> 08:56:53,863 is that even now so the pro 15408 08:56:53,863 --> 08:56:55,966 tara issue is different. These 15409 08:56:55,966 --> 08:56:58,936 are buses that are actually 15410 08:56:58,936 --> 08:57:00,837 working. These buses did see 15411 08:57:00,837 --> 08:57:05,370 the report said it is too early 15412 08:57:07,511 --> 08:57:08,412 to determine the new flyer 15413 08:57:08,412 --> 08:57:09,113 fleets overall return on 15414 08:57:09,113 --> 08:57:10,414 investment. Before we continue 15415 08:57:10,414 --> 08:57:11,810 to go down this route, I am not 15416 08:57:11,810 --> 08:57:13,716 saying this is not going to 15417 08:57:13,716 --> 08:57:14,685 work but we do need to 15418 08:57:14,685 --> 08:57:15,353 understand what that return on 15419 08:57:15,353 --> 08:57:16,254 investment is before we 15420 08:57:16,254 --> 08:57:18,654 purchased more of these 15421 08:57:19,356 --> 08:57:22,126 electric buses. That is my two 15422 08:57:22,126 --> 08:57:22,826 cents and I am working on 15423 08:57:22,826 --> 08:57:23,694 legislation to put a pause on 15424 08:57:23,694 --> 08:57:27,294 this so that we can understand 15425 08:57:29,767 --> 08:57:30,835 that it does in fact produce a 15426 08:57:30,835 --> 08:57:31,536 return on investment before we 15427 08:57:31,536 --> 08:57:34,536 move forward. Thank you MR. 15428 08:57:35,340 --> 08:57:36,107 Chair. 15429 08:57:36,107 --> 08:57:39,707 >> thank you MR. Chair and to 15430 08:57:42,613 --> 08:57:43,848 my colleagues for working on 15431 08:57:43,848 --> 08:57:44,415 legislation regarding these 15432 08:57:44,415 --> 08:57:45,117 guardrails that clearly we 15433 08:57:45,117 --> 08:57:45,651 need. This was voted in 15434 08:57:45,651 --> 08:57:46,618 octoberfor working on 15435 08:57:46,618 --> 08:57:47,318 legislation regarding these 15436 08:57:47,318 --> 08:57:48,860 guardrails that clearly we 15437 08:57:48,860 --> 08:57:51,860 need. This was voted in 15438 08:57:54,492 --> 08:57:55,327 OCTOBER 2019 if I am not 15439 08:57:55,327 --> 08:57:55,995 mistaken. Now we are in 2026. 15440 08:57:55,995 --> 08:57:56,695 To the attorneys of 15441 08:57:56,695 --> 08:57:57,662 administration has there been 15442 08:57:57,662 --> 08:58:00,662 any policy implemented by this 15443 08:58:01,166 --> 08:58:01,867 board finding out that this pro 15444 08:58:01,867 --> 08:58:02,768 tara catastrophe took place? 15445 08:58:02,768 --> 08:58:03,635 Has there been any policy 15446 08:58:03,635 --> 08:58:06,350 speaking to this issue 15447 08:58:10,709 --> 08:58:11,610 regarding new technologies? To 15448 08:58:11,610 --> 08:58:12,311 my memory I have not seen any 15449 08:58:12,311 --> 08:58:13,645 legislation. Do you know of 15450 08:58:13,645 --> 08:58:16,645 any legislation that we have 15451 08:58:21,654 --> 08:58:22,621 advanced? 15452 08:58:22,621 --> 08:58:23,321 >> I am not aware of any 15453 08:58:23,321 --> 08:58:24,156 legislation. What I can tell 15454 08:58:24,156 --> 08:58:25,391 you is the administration has 15455 08:58:25,391 --> 08:58:25,992 this issue front of mind. 15456 08:58:25,992 --> 08:58:26,826 Every time a new technology 15457 08:58:26,826 --> 08:58:27,827 comes to the svd and evaluating 15458 08:58:27,827 --> 08:58:30,463 it in the department directors, 15459 08:58:30,463 --> 08:58:34,663 we all say this is not another 15460 08:58:41,374 --> 08:58:42,241 pro tara is it? We have taking 15461 08:58:42,241 --> 08:58:42,942 a beaten we promise there's a 15462 08:58:42,942 --> 08:58:43,944 way this will work. If you can 15463 08:58:43,944 --> 08:58:44,810 show where it works somewhere 15464 08:58:44,810 --> 08:58:45,979 else we are not interested. 15465 08:58:45,979 --> 08:58:46,980 >> I am happy to hear that. 15466 08:58:46,980 --> 08:58:47,680 We get lobbied obviously 15467 08:58:47,680 --> 08:58:51,280 frequently as well. We are too 15468 08:58:52,952 --> 08:58:53,853 big of a county to be a guinea 15469 08:58:53,853 --> 08:58:54,687 pig for any company. Yes, we 15470 08:58:54,687 --> 08:58:55,389 want to implement new 15471 08:58:55,389 --> 08:58:56,190 technologies but we can only 15472 08:58:56,190 --> 08:58:56,892 afford to implement proven 15473 08:58:56,892 --> 08:58:58,725 technologies. And so I know 15474 08:58:58,725 --> 08:59:02,325 there are red flag policies in 15475 08:59:08,369 --> 08:59:09,690 place that commissioner sosa 15476 08:59:09,690 --> 08:59:09,903 has brought before. If you're 15477 08:59:09,903 --> 08:59:10,503 working on the legislation 15478 08:59:10,503 --> 08:59:11,505 whether red flag type of 15479 08:59:11,505 --> 08:59:13,905 warnings and procurement would 15480 08:59:14,608 --> 08:59:15,409 be appropriate here? Where 15481 08:59:15,409 --> 08:59:16,344 there is some sort of a 15482 08:59:16,344 --> 08:59:18,744 disconnect between what the 15483 08:59:19,130 --> 08:59:19,747 company is proposing and their 15484 08:59:19,747 --> 08:59:20,648 actual track record and with 15485 08:59:20,648 --> 08:59:24,248 the actual spend that is being 15486 08:59:24,518 --> 08:59:25,186 proposed here. So something to 15487 08:59:25,186 --> 08:59:26,454 consider because I think a red 15488 08:59:26,454 --> 08:59:29,454 flag during the program and 15489 08:59:29,957 --> 08:59:31,392 progress -- process would've 15490 08:59:31,392 --> 08:59:34,392 been helpful. In 2019 this was 15491 08:59:36,197 --> 08:59:36,931 competitively procured right? 15492 08:59:36,931 --> 08:59:38,165 There were other companies that 15493 08:59:38,165 --> 08:59:39,734 bid on this and somehow this 15494 08:59:39,734 --> 08:59:40,601 company advanced to the top and 15495 08:59:40,601 --> 08:59:42,236 received a recommendation from 15496 08:59:42,236 --> 08:59:44,636 the administration and passed 15497 08:59:45,741 --> 08:59:48,543 at the bcc. So my question is 15498 08:59:48,543 --> 08:59:49,511 have we since finding out about 15499 08:59:49,511 --> 08:59:53,111 this done an internal look at 15500 08:59:54,281 --> 08:59:55,830 either the selection committee, 15501 08:59:55,830 --> 08:59:55,817 internal procurement 15502 08:59:55,817 --> 08:59:58,817 department? I am perplexed as 15503 08:59:59,888 --> 09:00:03,580 to how a spend as high as $70 15504 09:00:03,580 --> 09:00:03,724 million went through a full 15505 09:00:03,724 --> 09:00:05,227 procurement and we have not 15506 09:00:05,227 --> 09:00:07,629 looked at ourselves to say, 15507 09:00:07,629 --> 09:00:11,829 what have we done here to allow 15508 09:00:12,670 --> 09:00:12,734 this much money? How do we get 15509 09:00:12,734 --> 09:00:16,334 the file? If it happens in 15510 09:00:25,782 --> 09:00:26,682 other products of the country 15511 09:00:26,682 --> 09:00:27,350 how to a county as large as we 15512 09:00:27,350 --> 09:00:28,251 are allow for defrauding to 15513 09:00:28,251 --> 09:00:29,118 take place in the tune of $70 15514 09:00:29,118 --> 09:00:30,152 million? If the question is we 15515 09:00:30,152 --> 09:00:30,820 have not looked at ourselves 15516 09:00:30,820 --> 09:00:31,787 internally my ask is a simple 15517 09:00:31,787 --> 09:00:35,387 one. How is it that something 15518 09:00:37,593 --> 09:00:38,194 like this advanced at that 15519 09:00:38,194 --> 09:00:39,950 time? What is even more 15520 09:00:39,950 --> 09:00:41,495 concerning since 2019 there is 15521 09:00:42,131 --> 09:00:42,765 no policy in place currently to 15522 09:00:42,765 --> 09:00:44,100 prevent it from happening 15523 09:00:44,100 --> 09:00:45,102 again. What is our strategic 15524 09:00:45,102 --> 09:00:45,735 procurement department doing 15525 09:00:45,735 --> 09:00:47,637 right now not just talking 15526 09:00:47,637 --> 09:00:49,172 points on a microphone or news 15527 09:00:49,172 --> 09:00:49,973 interviews and different 15528 09:00:49,973 --> 09:00:52,175 articles, what are we doing 15529 09:00:52,175 --> 09:00:55,440 right now to make sure that 15530 09:00:55,440 --> 09:00:57,444 this doesn't happen again 15531 09:00:59,950 --> 09:01:00,583 internally? I know it was big 15532 09:01:00,583 --> 09:01:01,451 and it was a lot simple 15533 09:01:01,451 --> 09:01:04,451 question, have we looked at 15534 09:01:05,489 --> 09:01:06,190 ourselves, the internal 15535 09:01:06,190 --> 09:01:07,558 department and what they did 15536 09:01:07,558 --> 09:01:09,958 toward this contract? Somebody 15537 09:01:11,828 --> 09:01:12,696 made a ton of money off of 15538 09:01:12,696 --> 09:01:16,296 this. I am not suggesting us. 15539 09:01:21,370 --> 09:01:21,704 There were lobbyists involved. 15540 09:01:21,704 --> 09:01:22,538 Somebody made a bag of money 15541 09:01:22,538 --> 09:01:23,572 and we are holding the bag. 15542 09:01:23,572 --> 09:01:24,240 Have we done an internal 15543 09:01:24,240 --> 09:01:25,141 investigation of ourselves? 15544 09:01:25,141 --> 09:01:26,410 >> I think it was the only 15545 09:01:26,410 --> 09:01:26,641 person on the dais who was here 15546 09:01:26,641 --> 09:01:30,241 at the time. I do remember 15547 09:01:30,745 --> 09:01:34,345 very well how heavily this was 15548 09:01:36,918 --> 09:01:37,585 lobbied. I do remember 15549 09:01:37,585 --> 09:01:38,453 difficulties in making a 15550 09:01:38,453 --> 09:01:41,722 decision. I think it is very 15551 09:01:41,722 --> 09:01:45,922 fair to say we should look back 15552 09:01:46,794 --> 09:01:47,761 at the tapes and the records to 15553 09:01:47,761 --> 09:01:49,230 just see exactly what happens. 15554 09:01:49,230 --> 09:01:53,430 Let's be clear, we have a very 15555 09:01:54,340 --> 09:01:55,680 active lobby core. They 15556 09:01:55,680 --> 09:01:58,680 represent clients and they come 15557 09:01:59,806 --> 09:02:00,807 to us with choices. I take 15558 09:02:00,807 --> 09:02:04,643 great pride and I have to tell 15559 09:02:04,643 --> 09:02:07,430 you in our strategic 15560 09:02:07,980 --> 09:02:10,380 procurement director who I 15561 09:02:18,122 --> 09:02:19,123 appointed. I also separate in 15562 09:02:19,123 --> 09:02:20,910 the procurement department. It 15563 09:02:20,910 --> 09:02:20,725 used to be a part of ist. I 15564 09:02:20,725 --> 09:02:21,960 wanted those decisions to go 15565 09:02:21,960 --> 09:02:22,927 more directly to my office. 15566 09:02:22,927 --> 09:02:25,327 Because there were decisions 15567 09:02:28,766 --> 09:02:29,700 that were made that were buried 15568 09:02:29,700 --> 09:02:30,668 inside internal services. I 15569 09:02:30,668 --> 09:02:31,302 wanted them to be more directly 15570 09:02:31,302 --> 09:02:32,536 reporting to the mayor. I 15571 09:02:32,536 --> 09:02:33,404 think you see the work of her 15572 09:02:33,404 --> 09:02:34,405 team and they are very 15573 09:02:34,405 --> 09:02:36,805 thorough. Changes have been 15574 09:02:37,774 --> 09:02:38,508 made, the CHAIRMAN Has just put 15575 09:02:38,508 --> 09:02:39,442 forward first reading items 15576 09:02:39,442 --> 09:02:42,646 that comes out of the script. 15577 09:02:42,646 --> 09:02:45,782 We spent our team spent a lot 15578 09:02:45,782 --> 09:02:48,184 of time that body provided a 15579 09:02:48,184 --> 09:02:49,850 lot of recommendations. Many 15580 09:02:49,850 --> 09:02:51,187 of the things that were adopted 15581 09:02:51,187 --> 09:02:53,956 by that group were things that 15582 09:02:53,956 --> 09:02:54,791 were already changes that have 15583 09:02:54,791 --> 09:02:55,491 been made by the procurement 15584 09:02:55,491 --> 09:02:57,426 department. Our procurement 15585 09:02:57,426 --> 09:02:59,826 department has won national 15586 09:03:00,595 --> 09:03:02,995 awards. I mean national 15587 09:03:05,233 --> 09:03:05,901 awards. I think we are really 15588 09:03:05,901 --> 09:03:08,901 progressing well and to the 15589 09:03:10,171 --> 09:03:10,838 work of strip some of the 15590 09:03:10,838 --> 09:03:11,839 bureaucratic delays and things 15591 09:03:11,839 --> 09:03:12,707 like that have been addressed 15592 09:03:12,707 --> 09:03:13,641 as well as the selection 15593 09:03:13,641 --> 09:03:16,641 committee issues. More to be 15594 09:03:16,911 --> 09:03:17,812 discussed but I do think it 15595 09:03:17,812 --> 09:03:18,712 would be worthwhile to go back 15596 09:03:18,712 --> 09:03:21,712 and look at that particular 15597 09:03:21,748 --> 09:03:22,282 procurement is exactly how we 15598 09:03:22,282 --> 09:03:23,150 went down that path. 15599 09:03:23,150 --> 09:03:25,550 > thank you for saying 15600 09:03:28,989 --> 09:03:29,589 that. I know improvements have 15601 09:03:29,589 --> 09:03:30,623 been made sense and I look 15602 09:03:30,623 --> 09:03:31,524 forward to the script committee 15603 09:03:31,524 --> 09:03:33,590 items as they move through the 15604 09:03:33,590 --> 09:03:33,693 legislative process. I will do 15605 09:03:33,693 --> 09:03:37,293 I will look into that also 15606 09:03:38,797 --> 09:03:39,832 because I just can't understand 15607 09:03:39,832 --> 09:03:40,666 how something this large got as 15608 09:03:40,666 --> 09:03:41,333 far as it did leaving us in 15609 09:03:41,333 --> 09:03:44,236 this position area and so I 15610 09:03:44,236 --> 09:03:45,137 look forward to working with 15611 09:03:45,137 --> 09:03:48,137 you on that matter mayor. 15612 09:03:49,730 --> 09:03:49,741 >> commissioner you are 15613 09:03:49,741 --> 09:03:51,741 recognized. 15614 09:03:56,381 --> 09:03:57,148 >> I have a quick question. 15615 09:03:57,148 --> 09:03:58,490 So when a car breaks down with 15616 09:03:58,490 --> 09:03:58,850 a mechanic. When these buses 15617 09:03:58,850 --> 09:03:59,617 break down do we have a 15618 09:03:59,617 --> 09:04:00,551 technician that works on them? 15619 09:04:00,551 --> 09:04:01,452 Do we report them broken and we 15620 09:04:01,452 --> 09:04:02,620 have to wait for someone like a 15621 09:04:02,620 --> 09:04:03,621 specialist to maintain them? 15622 09:04:03,621 --> 09:04:06,210 >> the challenge with the 15623 09:04:06,857 --> 09:04:09,257 buses have rendered in 15624 09:04:09,660 --> 09:04:12,600 operable. They have software 15625 09:04:12,562 --> 09:04:16,162 issues and it is for priority 15626 09:04:20,469 --> 09:04:21,370 issues and there's no one to 15627 09:04:21,370 --> 09:04:21,871 provide that to us which 15628 09:04:21,871 --> 09:04:22,605 renders them and operable. We 15629 09:04:22,605 --> 09:04:23,506 have software issues and even 15630 09:04:23,506 --> 09:04:25,107 the buses that we have all of 15631 09:04:25,107 --> 09:04:26,800 the buses are the exact same. 15632 09:04:26,800 --> 09:04:26,675 There is actually at least two 15633 09:04:26,675 --> 09:04:29,750 different types of programming 15634 09:04:30,790 --> 09:04:30,946 so one bus can break and parts 15635 09:04:30,946 --> 09:04:32,800 are not interchangeable in the 15636 09:04:32,800 --> 09:04:35,680 same group of buses. It is 15637 09:04:41,890 --> 09:04:41,789 just a complete terrible 15638 09:04:41,789 --> 09:04:42,657 situation that we don't have 15639 09:04:42,657 --> 09:04:43,591 the service available. We 15640 09:04:43,591 --> 09:04:44,292 don't have the software and the 15641 09:04:44,292 --> 09:04:44,759 technicians and it is not 15642 09:04:44,759 --> 09:04:45,727 offered by anybody. 15643 09:04:45,727 --> 09:04:46,927 >> the bus breaks down to get 15644 09:04:46,927 --> 09:04:47,795 hauled and stored away? Ask in 15645 09:04:47,795 --> 09:04:51,395 general of course we have the 15646 09:04:54,435 --> 09:04:55,369 maintenance department. The 15647 09:04:55,369 --> 09:04:56,336 new flyer buses are being 15648 09:04:56,336 --> 09:04:57,700 repaired it's needed by our 15649 09:04:57,700 --> 09:04:59,700 mechanics. These particular 15650 09:05:01,410 --> 09:05:01,741 buses are being repaired 15651 09:05:01,741 --> 09:05:02,542 initially but as across the 15652 09:05:02,542 --> 09:05:03,543 country these buses were 15653 09:05:03,543 --> 09:05:05,511 failing, it overwhelm the 15654 09:05:05,511 --> 09:05:07,546 company. It is reminding me 15655 09:05:07,546 --> 09:05:10,546 that the ceo passed away 15656 09:05:15,888 --> 09:05:16,922 suddenly in 2021 and was just 15657 09:05:16,922 --> 09:05:17,923 44 so the company had a major 15658 09:05:17,923 --> 09:05:18,990 challenge from that. There was 15659 09:05:18,990 --> 09:05:19,892 a lot of customization of the 15660 09:05:19,892 --> 09:05:21,760 buses. There were over there 15661 09:05:21,760 --> 09:05:23,494 beyond their capabilities 15662 09:05:23,494 --> 09:05:24,462 basically. We did the repair 15663 09:05:24,462 --> 09:05:28,620 during the time that they were 15664 09:05:30,201 --> 09:05:30,902 still in business when there 15665 09:05:30,902 --> 09:05:31,769 was a successor company. We 15666 09:05:31,769 --> 09:05:32,669 did get some help with the 15667 09:05:32,669 --> 09:05:35,690 repairs but eventually they 15668 09:05:36,574 --> 09:05:37,441 were not able to perform that 15669 09:05:37,441 --> 09:05:38,442 is why we filed the lawsuit. 15670 09:05:38,442 --> 09:05:39,760 >> do we have someone in house 15671 09:05:39,760 --> 09:05:41,476 that can repair these 15672 09:05:42,212 --> 09:05:42,946 currently? The old ones are 15673 09:05:42,946 --> 09:05:44,848 the new ones or do we need to 15674 09:05:44,848 --> 09:05:46,149 bring in someone from their 15675 09:05:46,149 --> 09:05:48,549 company to repair it? 15676 09:05:55,157 --> 09:05:55,824 >> through the chair. The pro 15677 09:05:55,824 --> 09:05:56,792 terra buses and I'm going to 15678 09:05:56,792 --> 09:05:59,792 speak to them. The blunderbuss 15679 09:06:07,803 --> 09:06:08,703 is we have maintenance staff 15680 09:06:08,703 --> 09:06:09,437 who were well prepared to deal 15681 09:06:09,437 --> 09:06:10,205 with our other parts of our 15682 09:06:10,205 --> 09:06:10,939 feet. Our new flyer fleet 15683 09:06:10,939 --> 09:06:11,806 which are under warranty are 15684 09:06:11,806 --> 09:06:12,707 being serviced as needed. In 15685 09:06:12,707 --> 09:06:13,340 the instance of our pro terra 15686 09:06:13,340 --> 09:06:14,208 fleet there were certain 15687 09:06:14,208 --> 09:06:16,144 components that started 15688 09:06:16,144 --> 09:06:17,120 breaking down that were under 15689 09:06:17,120 --> 09:06:19,281 warranty. Parts of those were 15690 09:06:19,281 --> 09:06:20,349 not things we could readily 15691 09:06:20,349 --> 09:06:22,160 repair. The batteries were not 15692 09:06:22,160 --> 09:06:25,160 things that we had the 15693 09:06:25,754 --> 09:06:28,154 opportunity to repair. There 15694 09:06:29,558 --> 09:06:30,225 were gears that needed to be 15695 09:06:30,225 --> 09:06:31,590 replaced every manufacturers 15696 09:06:31,590 --> 09:06:34,659 those are things that we can 15697 09:06:38,667 --> 09:06:39,201 repair. So with the part of 15698 09:06:39,201 --> 09:06:40,102 the fee that is still 15699 09:06:40,102 --> 09:06:40,769 functioning, we are actually 15700 09:06:40,769 --> 09:06:42,103 ourselves repairing the buses 15701 09:06:42,103 --> 09:06:43,772 and making sure that the small 15702 09:06:43,772 --> 09:06:47,372 number that do function that we 15703 09:06:48,344 --> 09:06:49,278 keep them in use. We are 15704 09:06:49,278 --> 09:06:52,278 pulling other items from the 15705 09:06:52,414 --> 09:06:53,249 buses that aren't functioning 15706 09:06:53,249 --> 09:06:54,683 to make sure we keep a few 15707 09:06:54,683 --> 09:06:55,819 buses running. But the main 15708 09:06:55,819 --> 09:06:58,819 components of the buses that 15709 09:07:00,220 --> 09:07:00,923 were failing were not things 15710 09:07:00,923 --> 09:07:01,824 that we can repair. They had 15711 09:07:01,824 --> 09:07:04,224 to physically be replaced. 15712 09:07:07,931 --> 09:07:09,366 >> do we have the expertise to 15713 09:07:09,366 --> 09:07:09,733 do those repairs the ones that 15714 09:07:09,733 --> 09:07:10,400 we are doing? 15715 09:07:10,400 --> 09:07:10,700 >> we are repairing them 15716 09:07:10,700 --> 09:07:12,202 ourselves. 15717 09:07:12,202 --> 09:07:14,202 >> okay, thank you. 15718 09:07:17,341 --> 09:07:18,875 >> that is that. We're going 15719 09:07:18,875 --> 09:07:19,476 to get the reports quarterly or 15720 09:07:19,476 --> 09:07:22,476 more often when it becomes 15721 09:07:22,745 --> 09:07:25,549 available. We are going to put 15722 09:07:25,549 --> 09:07:26,250 parameters and guardrails to 15723 09:07:26,250 --> 09:07:28,650 prevent this from occurring. 15724 09:07:30,530 --> 09:07:33,653 With that our next disc session 15725 09:07:45,269 --> 09:07:46,170 is 6b1. Commissioner lopez you 15726 09:07:46,170 --> 09:07:47,271 are the sponsor of the site. 15727 09:07:47,271 --> 09:07:48,139 >> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN and 15728 09:07:48,139 --> 09:07:49,400 thank you for placing this 15729 09:07:49,400 --> 09:07:49,740 discussion on the agenda. A 15730 09:07:49,740 --> 09:07:50,808 number of advocacy groups have 15731 09:07:50,808 --> 09:07:51,742 asked me about the implications 15732 09:07:51,742 --> 09:07:52,576 of senate bill 1134 which is 15733 09:07:52,576 --> 09:07:55,280 known as the di bill. The 15734 09:07:55,280 --> 09:07:56,247 impact on the county, it 15735 09:07:56,247 --> 09:07:57,148 doesn't take it into the effect 15736 09:07:57,148 --> 09:07:58,820 until JANUARY one of 2027 but 15737 09:07:58,820 --> 09:07:58,783 that falls within the fiscal 15738 09:07:58,783 --> 09:08:00,751 year of the 2026 27 budget that 15739 09:08:00,751 --> 09:08:01,419 were currently reviewing and 15740 09:08:01,419 --> 09:08:05,190 will take up in SEPTEMBER and 15741 09:08:05,891 --> 09:08:06,525 the 1st and second budget 15742 09:08:06,525 --> 09:08:07,559 hearings. The same advocacy 15743 09:08:07,559 --> 09:08:09,494 groups have expressed concerns 15744 09:08:09,494 --> 09:08:10,361 about the impacts have 15745 09:08:10,361 --> 09:08:13,361 expressed the desire for the 15746 09:08:16,234 --> 09:08:17,268 county to challenge or to seek 15747 09:08:17,268 --> 09:08:18,170 further clarification of senate 15748 09:08:18,170 --> 09:08:19,804 bill 1134. I can tell you it 15749 09:08:19,804 --> 09:08:20,572 is incredibly vague and the 15750 09:08:20,572 --> 09:08:22,972 consequences of being accused 15751 09:08:25,811 --> 09:08:28,447 of being either malfeasance of 15752 09:08:28,447 --> 09:08:32,470 removal office or sued by a 15753 09:08:33,451 --> 09:08:33,785 resident of miami-dade 15754 09:08:33,785 --> 09:08:34,585 . If you 15755 09:08:34,585 --> 09:08:37,585 think we MAY overcorrect or 15756 09:08:40,659 --> 09:08:41,393 under correct given the 15757 09:08:41,393 --> 09:08:42,394 vagueness of the bill. I know 15758 09:08:42,394 --> 09:08:43,228 I county attorney's office have 15759 09:08:43,228 --> 09:08:44,596 spent a considerable amount of 15760 09:08:44,596 --> 09:08:45,364 time on this issue. And 15761 09:08:45,364 --> 09:08:46,399 because of the nature of the 15762 09:08:46,399 --> 09:08:47,600 bill and the possibility of 15763 09:08:47,600 --> 09:08:49,868 legal action it is best that we 15764 09:08:49,868 --> 09:08:52,268 limit our discussions regarding 15765 09:08:59,812 --> 09:09:00,813 senate bill 1134. Those 15766 09:09:00,813 --> 09:09:01,747 discussions in public for that 15767 09:09:01,747 --> 09:09:02,347 reason. If you have any 15768 09:09:02,347 --> 09:09:02,948 questions such as I have been 15769 09:09:02,948 --> 09:09:03,783 working with the county 15770 09:09:03,783 --> 09:09:06,183 attorney's office for month 15771 09:09:06,419 --> 09:09:07,386 since the build -- the bill was 15772 09:09:07,386 --> 09:09:10,923 fine. I would ask that you all 15773 09:09:10,923 --> 09:09:14,523 consider a motion to direct the 15774 09:09:15,862 --> 09:09:16,263 county attorney to research the 15775 09:09:16,263 --> 09:09:17,640 counties ability. 15776 09:09:17,640 --> 09:09:20,664 > if you all can quiet down 15777 09:09:26,673 --> 09:09:27,608 in the back please? 15778 09:09:27,608 --> 09:09:28,275 >> I would move to direct the 15779 09:09:28,275 --> 09:09:29,276 county attorney's office to 15780 09:09:29,276 --> 09:09:30,343 research the counties ability 15781 09:09:30,343 --> 09:09:33,343 to challenge the validity of 15782 09:09:38,850 --> 09:09:39,530 senate bill 1134 or 15783 09:09:39,530 --> 09:09:40,530 alternatively ask the court to 15784 09:09:40,530 --> 09:09:40,687 clarify how it applies to the 15785 09:09:40,687 --> 09:09:41,588 county and brief each 15786 09:09:41,588 --> 09:09:42,689 commissioner individually 15787 09:09:42,689 --> 09:09:43,556 regarding the results of their 15788 09:09:43,556 --> 09:09:46,556 research. I continue to feel 15789 09:09:53,333 --> 09:09:54,670 very uncomfortable about the 15790 09:09:54,670 --> 09:09:54,835 law. I have read it so many 15791 09:09:54,835 --> 09:09:55,837 times as has the county 15792 09:09:55,837 --> 09:09:56,437 attorney's office and it 15793 09:09:56,437 --> 09:09:57,405 continues to give me lots of 15794 09:09:57,405 --> 09:09:58,106 reasons to be concerned. 15795 09:09:58,106 --> 09:09:59,107 Especially since the law is 15796 09:09:59,107 --> 09:10:01,507 specific on promoting directly 15797 09:10:02,309 --> 09:10:03,770 or indirectly any activity or 15798 09:10:03,770 --> 09:10:03,978 program that MAY fall within 15799 09:10:03,978 --> 09:10:05,246 this law. And so that goes for 15800 09:10:05,246 --> 09:10:07,882 not only us but our staff. I 15801 09:10:07,882 --> 09:10:11,482 think it is important that we 15802 09:10:11,786 --> 09:10:12,453 get some clarification and 15803 09:10:12,453 --> 09:10:15,790 often time the only way to do 15804 09:10:15,790 --> 09:10:19,990 so is to go to the courts. 15805 09:10:20,428 --> 09:10:21,262 >> I agree that we need to 15806 09:10:21,262 --> 09:10:22,330 find a way to challenge it. 15807 09:10:22,330 --> 09:10:23,331 I'm trying to figure out the 15808 09:10:23,331 --> 09:10:26,868 best way. I guess I have some 15809 09:10:26,868 --> 09:10:27,869 conversations and we need to 15810 09:10:27,869 --> 09:10:30,338 have questions about what we do 15811 09:10:30,338 --> 09:10:33,938 here. Are we asking for, you 15812 09:10:35,311 --> 09:10:36,178 are asking us to seek -- 15813 09:10:36,178 --> 09:10:37,179 >> to have the county 15814 09:10:37,179 --> 09:10:39,179 attorneys to explore 15815 09:10:40,616 --> 09:10:43,160 declaratory challenge of sorts. 15816 09:10:43,452 --> 09:10:45,852 >> through the chair through 15817 09:10:51,260 --> 09:10:54,860 the attorney, is that a viable 15818 09:10:55,865 --> 09:10:57,433 path? 15819 09:10:57,433 --> 09:10:59,833 >> commissioner, we have been 15820 09:11:00,369 --> 09:11:02,671 reviewing this for quite some 15821 09:11:02,671 --> 09:11:04,139 time. We do think there MAY be 15822 09:11:04,139 --> 09:11:05,742 some challenges with that 15823 09:11:05,742 --> 09:11:08,742 approach. We will continue to 15824 09:11:09,512 --> 09:11:10,446 look at it if that is the 15825 09:11:10,446 --> 09:11:12,470 directive of this board. And 15826 09:11:12,470 --> 09:11:14,950 see what options are available. 15827 09:11:14,950 --> 09:11:17,287 Our preference would be to do 15828 09:11:17,287 --> 09:11:19,588 that and to brief each of you 15829 09:11:19,588 --> 09:11:20,589 individually so you can 15830 09:11:20,589 --> 09:11:22,989 understand the issues. Not 15831 09:11:28,198 --> 09:11:29,320 just any potential challenges 15832 09:11:29,320 --> 09:11:29,733 to the validity or seeking 15833 09:11:29,733 --> 09:11:30,633 clarification but also we would 15834 09:11:30,633 --> 09:11:34,833 like to brief you just on the 15835 09:11:38,142 --> 09:11:38,909 impact of this legislation on 15836 09:11:38,909 --> 09:11:39,776 the day-to-day matter. It is 15837 09:11:39,776 --> 09:11:40,644 our intention to reach out and 15838 09:11:40,644 --> 09:11:41,378 do that with each of you 15839 09:11:41,378 --> 09:11:42,145 individually and AUGUST before 15840 09:11:42,145 --> 09:11:42,445 the budget hearings as 15841 09:11:42,445 --> 09:11:43,280 possible. 15842 09:11:43,280 --> 09:11:46,280 >> so okay CHAIRMAN MAY I 15843 09:11:52,122 --> 09:11:55,122 continue? So how this works 15844 09:11:58,262 --> 09:11:58,995 with the community groups is 15845 09:11:58,995 --> 09:12:01,599 that we won't be able to fund 15846 09:12:01,599 --> 09:12:03,433 some people because of what 15847 09:12:03,433 --> 09:12:05,870 their name is or what they do? 15848 09:12:05,870 --> 09:12:07,505 The population they serve. 15849 09:12:07,505 --> 09:12:10,505 That group will then be 15850 09:12:13,410 --> 09:12:15,280 adversely affected. The reason 15851 09:12:15,280 --> 09:12:19,884 why we won't be able to do that 15852 09:12:19,884 --> 09:12:23,484 is because of the state law. 15853 09:12:27,426 --> 09:12:31,260 They should sue us. I think 15854 09:12:36,702 --> 09:12:37,603 that is probably -- no. I'm 15855 09:12:37,603 --> 09:12:40,972 saying the group should sue us 15856 09:12:40,972 --> 09:12:41,573 and the state would have to 15857 09:12:41,573 --> 09:12:43,973 intervene to defend their 15858 09:12:45,144 --> 09:12:47,544 statute. If they didn't 15859 09:12:47,780 --> 09:12:49,982 intervene to defend the statute 15860 09:12:49,982 --> 09:12:52,382 then we would settle. 15861 09:12:54,219 --> 09:12:55,188 >> let's not say on the record 15862 09:12:55,188 --> 09:12:59,388 that we want anybody to sue us. 15863 09:13:02,328 --> 09:13:05,928 It is not are doing here. 15864 09:13:06,366 --> 09:13:09,366 Obviously it was requested by 15865 09:13:09,902 --> 09:13:10,903 senator lopez. Let's be 15866 09:13:10,903 --> 09:13:13,939 mindful that this MAY go into 15867 09:13:13,939 --> 09:13:14,940 litigation at some point. Be 15868 09:13:14,940 --> 09:13:15,875 mindful of that. I think it is 15869 09:13:15,875 --> 09:13:19,475 important for you all to listen 15870 09:13:27,553 --> 09:13:30,390 to what jerry just very -- over 15871 09:13:30,390 --> 09:13:31,458 the next month and brief us 15872 09:13:31,458 --> 09:13:33,858 individually as to what 15873 09:13:34,727 --> 09:13:36,430 recourses we have. Because I 15874 09:13:36,430 --> 09:13:40,300 think you're right. For us to 15875 09:13:41,568 --> 09:13:45,768 do some sort of lawsuit to the 15876 09:13:46,974 --> 09:13:50,574 state of any capacity is not 15877 09:13:52,245 --> 09:13:52,713 risky but 15878 09:13:52,713 --> 09:13:53,280 >> 15879 09:13:53,280 --> 09:13:54,247 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, was going 15880 09:13:54,247 --> 09:13:54,514 on, I don't think we have 15881 09:13:54,514 --> 09:13:56,514 standing. 15882 09:13:56,717 --> 09:13:58,717 That's the llenge. 15883 09:13:59,753 --> 09:14:00,353 Somebody challenging us. 15884 09:14:00,353 --> 09:14:03,953 I think that's how we get 15885 09:14:04,570 --> 09:14:04,992 before the court. 15886 09:14:04,992 --> 09:14:05,259 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 15887 09:14:05,259 --> 09:14:05,693 all right. 15888 09:14:05,693 --> 09:14:06,627 Vice chair perkins 15889 09:14:06,627 --> 09:14:07,361 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 15890 09:14:07,361 --> 09:14:09,761 thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 15891 09:14:10,965 --> 09:14:14,565 I think it DR. King who 15892 09:14:14,668 --> 09:14:15,700 said an unjust law is no 15893 09:14:15,700 --> 09:14:17,700 law at all. 15894 09:14:17,838 --> 09:14:21,377 And this is one of the 15895 09:14:21,377 --> 09:14:23,777 most ridiculous pieces of 15896 09:14:26,314 --> 09:14:26,882 legislation that could 15897 09:14:26,882 --> 09:14:27,315 have easily passed the 15898 09:14:27,315 --> 09:14:29,315 legislators. 15899 09:14:31,286 --> 09:14:31,986 I think there should be a 15900 09:14:31,986 --> 09:14:32,287 lawsuit against miami-dade 15901 09:14:32,287 --> 09:14:34,122 county. 15902 09:14:34,122 --> 09:14:37,122 I think every that's going 15903 09:14:37,626 --> 09:14:38,293 to be impacted should come 15904 09:14:38,293 --> 09:14:39,160 together, hire one of the 15905 09:14:39,160 --> 09:14:40,262 greatest attorneys in 15906 09:14:40,262 --> 09:14:41,960 miami-dade county to 15907 09:14:41,960 --> 09:14:43,496 represent them and find 15908 09:14:46,769 --> 09:14:47,369 themselves a great firm 15909 09:14:47,369 --> 09:14:48,170 and sued the county and 15910 09:14:48,170 --> 09:14:49,171 force the state to 15911 09:14:49,171 --> 09:14:49,805 intervene similar to what 15912 09:14:49,805 --> 09:14:50,172 commissioner gilbert 15913 09:14:50,172 --> 09:14:51,239 stated. 15914 09:14:51,239 --> 09:14:51,873 But I also understand that 15915 09:14:51,873 --> 09:14:53,909 doing so is going to cost 15916 09:14:53,909 --> 09:14:56,309 some monies and I'm 15917 09:14:56,812 --> 09:14:57,746 prepared for it. 15918 09:14:57,746 --> 09:14:58,714 The fact of the matter is 15919 09:14:58,714 --> 09:15:02,840 there are going to be so 15920 09:15:02,840 --> 09:15:02,618 many organizations out 15921 09:15:02,618 --> 09:15:03,252 there who we are 15922 09:15:03,252 --> 09:15:05,455 responsible in part for 15923 09:15:05,455 --> 09:15:06,622 ensuring they have a voice 15924 09:15:06,622 --> 09:15:09,220 in this community that 15925 09:15:13,495 --> 09:15:14,464 once this, you 15926 09:15:14,464 --> 09:15:16,464 takes effect there's 15927 09:15:20,303 --> 09:15:20,836 possibilitiessome of you 15928 09:15:20,836 --> 09:15:21,604 will be removed from 15929 09:15:21,604 --> 09:15:22,605 office because of the 15930 09:15:22,605 --> 09:15:23,105 teeth that this piece of 15931 09:15:23,105 --> 09:15:25,105 legislation has. 15932 09:15:35,518 --> 09:15:36,186 So I simply say to the 15933 09:15:36,186 --> 09:15:37,870 voters out there listening 15934 09:15:37,870 --> 09:15:37,754 if you feel like you're in 15935 09:15:37,754 --> 09:15:38,388 a be impacted, if you feel 15936 09:15:38,388 --> 09:15:39,222 like you need assistance, 15937 09:15:39,222 --> 09:15:39,890 I think you should find 15938 09:15:39,890 --> 09:15:40,690 yourself an attorney, make 15939 09:15:40,690 --> 09:15:41,391 sure you're prepared to go 15940 09:15:41,391 --> 09:15:42,258 the long haul and sued the 15941 09:15:42,258 --> 09:15:42,592 county and force the state 15942 09:15:42,592 --> 09:15:43,359 to intervene. 15943 09:15:43,359 --> 09:15:44,293 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 15944 09:15:44,293 --> 09:15:44,794 I might -- I might end up 15945 09:15:44,794 --> 09:15:45,496 cutting this short. 15946 09:15:45,496 --> 09:15:47,896 Think it is entirely 15947 09:15:54,404 --> 09:15:55,370 negligent for any of us up 15948 09:15:55,370 --> 09:15:55,839 here to encourage a 15949 09:15:55,839 --> 09:15:56,540 lawsuit against myself 15950 09:15:56,540 --> 09:15:57,475 because I am a taxpayer of 15951 09:15:57,475 --> 09:15:58,410 this county and that will 15952 09:15:58,410 --> 09:15:58,876 be me paying for that 15953 09:15:58,876 --> 09:16:01,276 lawsuit and anyone else 15954 09:16:06,451 --> 09:16:07,418 that's a property owner 15955 09:16:07,418 --> 09:16:08,530 paying property taxes. 15956 09:16:08,530 --> 09:16:08,653 So commissioner gilbert 15957 09:16:08,653 --> 09:16:09,487 and vice chair I think 15958 09:16:09,487 --> 09:16:10,187 it's entirely negligent to 15959 09:16:10,187 --> 09:16:10,788 encourage anyone to sue 15960 09:16:10,788 --> 09:16:11,555 this county whether it is 15961 09:16:11,555 --> 09:16:12,289 a philosophical 15962 09:16:12,289 --> 09:16:14,289 ideological, personal, or 15963 09:16:26,437 --> 09:16:27,272 not, whatever it is, you 15964 09:16:27,272 --> 09:16:27,939 just -- I think it's 15965 09:16:27,939 --> 09:16:28,807 completely -- senator 15966 09:16:28,807 --> 09:16:29,474 garcia, you're not one to 15967 09:16:29,474 --> 09:16:30,141 -- [Laughter] I mean, you 15968 09:16:30,141 --> 09:16:31,410 are not one to correct -- 15969 09:16:31,410 --> 09:16:31,842 I mean, out of everyone up 15970 09:16:31,842 --> 09:16:35,442 here, that was -- I'm not 15971 09:16:36,214 --> 09:16:37,810 gonna say what the word 15972 09:16:37,810 --> 09:16:37,983 is, but look, I think as I 15973 09:16:37,983 --> 09:16:38,616 continue recognizing the 15974 09:16:38,616 --> 09:16:39,830 rest of you, be mindful 15975 09:16:39,830 --> 09:16:40,180 that we are not 15976 09:16:40,180 --> 09:16:40,585 encouraging anyone to sue 15977 09:16:40,585 --> 09:16:41,152 themselves if they are 15978 09:16:41,152 --> 09:16:43,152 property owners because 15979 09:16:45,224 --> 09:16:46,191 this is -- I mean, it's 15980 09:16:46,191 --> 09:16:46,625 just complete me negligent 15981 09:16:46,625 --> 09:16:47,526 to say that. 15982 09:16:47,526 --> 09:16:47,793 I understand the sentiment 15983 09:16:47,793 --> 09:16:49,793 behind it. 15984 09:16:51,496 --> 09:16:52,330 I understand that that 15985 09:16:52,330 --> 09:16:53,231 might be a recourse for us 15986 09:16:53,231 --> 09:16:53,865 to turn around and get the 15987 09:16:53,865 --> 09:16:56,865 state to intervene, but we 15988 09:16:59,338 --> 09:16:59,871 are not encouraging that 15989 09:16:59,871 --> 09:17:00,806 to be the case at all. 15990 09:17:00,806 --> 09:17:01,406 That is not a policy of 15991 09:17:01,406 --> 09:17:02,874 this board, that is not 15992 09:17:02,874 --> 09:17:05,745 where we are going with 15993 09:17:05,745 --> 09:17:06,245 this. 15994 09:17:06,245 --> 09:17:06,746 But, commissioner 15995 09:17:06,746 --> 09:17:07,460 regalado, you're 15996 09:17:07,460 --> 09:17:07,847 recognized. 15997 09:17:07,847 --> 09:17:08,130 >> Raquel Regalado: thank 15998 09:17:08,130 --> 09:17:10,130 you. 15999 09:17:15,622 --> 09:17:16,222 mission or lopez, I 16000 09:17:16,222 --> 09:17:17,560 appreciate that there's a 16001 09:17:17,560 --> 09:17:17,957 lot of organizations that 16002 09:17:17,957 --> 09:17:18,224 want a declaratory 16003 09:17:18,224 --> 09:17:20,224 judgment. 16004 09:17:20,426 --> 09:17:20,759 We would not have standing 16005 09:17:20,759 --> 09:17:22,759 or an injury. 16006 09:17:35,642 --> 09:17:36,276 We just t want because 16007 09:17:36,276 --> 09:17:37,110 there's a million reasons 16008 09:17:37,110 --> 09:17:37,777 why we would not put 16009 09:17:37,777 --> 09:17:38,411 someone in a budget. 16010 09:17:38,411 --> 09:17:39,120 How would you prove that 16011 09:17:39,120 --> 09:17:39,212 it is because of this? 16012 09:17:39,212 --> 09:17:39,879 O 16013 09:17:39,879 --> 09:17:40,714 it's a very complex thing 16014 09:17:40,714 --> 09:17:44,314 to throw us in the mix. 16015 09:17:46,219 --> 09:17:47,154 I think organizations that 16016 09:17:47,154 --> 09:17:47,821 receive government funding 16017 09:17:47,821 --> 09:17:49,156 should challenge this law 16018 09:17:49,156 --> 09:17:51,556 and request a declaratory 16019 09:17:51,658 --> 09:17:52,292 judgment or clarification. 16020 09:17:52,292 --> 09:17:53,793 I think that is -- is the 16021 09:17:53,793 --> 09:17:56,193 most viable path forward 16022 09:18:09,276 --> 09:18:10,243 to use us as a way to not 16023 09:18:10,243 --> 09:18:10,911 pay an attorney, but using 16024 09:18:10,911 --> 09:18:11,545 our attorneys is a whole 16025 09:18:11,545 --> 09:18:12,313 different thing, but we 16026 09:18:12,313 --> 09:18:13,146 would be kicked out 16027 09:18:13,146 --> 09:18:13,614 because of standing 16028 09:18:13,614 --> 09:18:14,147 because of an injury. 16029 09:18:14,147 --> 09:18:14,982 Now, if we were to fund 16030 09:18:14,982 --> 09:18:17,982 and then we were removed, 16031 09:18:19,153 --> 09:18:19,754 that would be a different 16032 09:18:19,754 --> 09:18:20,354 conversation, right? 16033 09:18:20,354 --> 09:18:21,155 But to date we have not 16034 09:18:21,155 --> 09:18:22,690 even established how we 16035 09:18:22,690 --> 09:18:23,900 are going to interpret 16036 09:18:23,900 --> 09:18:25,900 this statute. 16037 09:18:31,731 --> 09:18:32,399 So I agree with you. 16038 09:18:32,399 --> 09:18:33,366 We've all read it and we 16039 09:18:33,366 --> 09:18:34,234 have a million questions. 16040 09:18:34,234 --> 09:18:34,868 It was poorly drafted, 16041 09:18:34,868 --> 09:18:35,702 respectfully, for those of 16042 09:18:35,702 --> 09:18:36,269 you that were part of the 16043 09:18:36,269 --> 09:18:36,903 legislator, one of the 16044 09:18:36,903 --> 09:18:39,303 poorly drafted items that 16045 09:18:41,707 --> 09:18:42,800 come from tallahassee. 16046 09:18:42,800 --> 09:18:42,808 Tallahassee. 16047 09:18:42,808 --> 09:18:43,309 Port drafting seems to be 16048 09:18:43,309 --> 09:18:43,743 the norm, not the 16049 09:18:43,743 --> 09:18:44,310 exception. 16050 09:18:44,310 --> 09:18:45,100 That being said, it needs 16051 09:18:45,100 --> 09:18:47,146 to bear itself out and 16052 09:18:47,146 --> 09:18:50,146 there a lot of impacted 16053 09:18:53,952 --> 09:18:54,553 organizations that should 16054 09:18:54,553 --> 09:18:55,520 ask for clarification. 16055 09:18:55,520 --> 09:18:55,887 We are not the best suited 16056 09:18:55,887 --> 09:18:57,887 to do that. 16057 09:18:59,757 --> 09:19:00,325 Presently, we have to 16058 09:19:00,325 --> 09:19:00,892 evaluate it, take an 16059 09:19:00,892 --> 09:19:03,292 evaluation based on our 16060 09:19:09,767 --> 09:19:10,200 risk, and move forward on 16061 09:19:10,200 --> 09:19:10,868 our budget. 16062 09:19:10,868 --> 09:19:11,635 But even then, it's going 16063 09:19:11,635 --> 09:19:12,202 to be very difficult to 16064 09:19:12,202 --> 09:19:14,602 prove causation and our 16065 09:19:16,506 --> 09:19:17,340 injury and our standing 16066 09:19:17,340 --> 09:19:18,410 are very different from 16067 09:19:18,410 --> 09:19:18,375 their injury and they were 16068 09:19:18,375 --> 09:19:18,908 standing. 16069 09:19:18,908 --> 09:19:19,576 O I appreciate 16070 09:19:19,576 --> 09:19:20,443 that we want to help, but 16071 09:19:20,443 --> 09:19:21,430 for us it's a very, very 16072 09:19:21,430 --> 09:19:23,430 different situation than 16073 09:19:29,352 --> 09:19:29,618 for those that are 16074 09:19:29,618 --> 09:19:30,419 impacted. 16075 09:19:30,419 --> 09:19:30,986 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16076 09:19:30,986 --> 09:19:31,420 commissioner cohen 16077 09:19:31,420 --> 09:19:32,870 higgins. 16078 09:19:32,870 --> 09:19:32,921 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 16079 09:19:32,921 --> 09:19:33,489 thank you, MR. Chair. 16080 09:19:33,489 --> 09:19:36,489 The kind of echoed the 16081 09:19:40,194 --> 09:19:40,362 concerns, please don't sue 16082 09:19:40,362 --> 09:19:40,862 us. 16083 09:19:40,862 --> 09:19:41,696 I don't know if you saw 16084 09:19:41,696 --> 09:19:42,596 our county attorney space 16085 09:19:42,596 --> 09:19:42,964 when that message was 16086 09:19:42,964 --> 09:19:43,631 being advanced. 16087 09:19:43,631 --> 09:19:44,198 Please comment to be 16088 09:19:44,198 --> 09:19:46,598 clear, don't sue us. 16089 09:19:56,760 --> 09:19:56,577 But I think the message is 16090 09:19:56,577 --> 09:19:57,144 one that we need to 16091 09:19:57,144 --> 09:19:57,978 seriously consider. 16092 09:19:57,978 --> 09:19:58,545 We are the largest county 16093 09:19:58,545 --> 09:19:59,146 in miami-dade -- in the 16094 09:19:59,146 --> 09:20:00,130 state of florida. 16095 09:20:00,130 --> 09:20:00,614 We are a donor county, and 16096 09:20:00,614 --> 09:20:01,514 more important we are a 16097 09:20:01,514 --> 09:20:03,514 majority minority county. 16098 09:20:08,321 --> 09:20:09,550 And so it is not -- it is 16099 09:20:09,550 --> 09:20:10,560 right for our residents to 16100 09:20:10,560 --> 09:20:10,857 look for us for leadership 16101 09:20:10,857 --> 09:20:11,727 on this issue and they are 16102 09:20:11,727 --> 09:20:12,625 saying help us because 16103 09:20:12,625 --> 09:20:12,959 this is going to affect us 16104 09:20:12,959 --> 09:20:13,626 come JANUARY. 16105 09:20:13,626 --> 09:20:14,226 So I look forward to the 16106 09:20:14,226 --> 09:20:14,627 conversations we're going 16107 09:20:14,627 --> 09:20:15,361 to have. 16108 09:20:15,361 --> 09:20:16,162 Jerry, I am wondering, 16109 09:20:16,162 --> 09:20:16,362 because it is a discussion 16110 09:20:16,362 --> 09:20:17,950 item. 16111 09:20:17,950 --> 09:20:17,830 Are not as much interested 16112 09:20:17,830 --> 09:20:18,196 in speaking as a 16113 09:20:18,196 --> 09:20:18,897 litigation item. 16114 09:20:18,897 --> 09:20:19,565 I don't think that's the 16115 09:20:19,565 --> 09:20:20,499 path forward for a number 16116 09:20:20,499 --> 09:20:23,499 of reasons, but why can't 16117 09:20:31,175 --> 09:20:31,809 we as a board through 16118 09:20:31,809 --> 09:20:32,243 either our homely charter 16119 09:20:32,243 --> 09:20:32,944 powers, or own 16120 09:20:32,944 --> 09:20:33,711 policymaking decisions as 16121 09:20:33,711 --> 09:20:34,378 a body create something 16122 09:20:34,378 --> 09:20:35,212 that allows us to maneuver 16123 09:20:35,212 --> 09:20:37,782 around this the way that 16124 09:20:37,782 --> 09:20:37,982 we have in so many other 16125 09:20:37,982 --> 09:20:38,816 areas? 16126 09:20:38,816 --> 09:20:41,816 So they passed a poorly 16127 09:20:53,729 --> 09:20:54,664 worded statute that we can 16128 09:20:54,664 --> 09:20:55,331 draft our own ways around 16129 09:20:55,331 --> 09:20:55,898 potentially or can we add 16130 09:20:55,898 --> 09:20:56,432 something to our charter 16131 09:20:56,432 --> 09:20:57,266 that speaks to this? 16132 09:20:57,266 --> 09:20:57,867 I believe today is the 16133 09:20:57,867 --> 09:20:58,734 deadline to get something 16134 09:20:58,734 --> 09:20:59,100 on the ballot come 16135 09:20:59,100 --> 09:20:59,735 NOVEMBER. 16136 09:20:59,735 --> 09:21:00,369 Is there something we can 16137 09:21:00,369 --> 09:21:01,804 write into our charter 16138 09:21:01,804 --> 09:21:02,638 that speaks to this issue, 16139 09:21:02,638 --> 09:21:03,339 and if the answer is no, I 16140 09:21:03,339 --> 09:21:04,139 accept that as well, but I 16141 09:21:04,139 --> 09:21:04,807 think when the state 16142 09:21:04,807 --> 09:21:05,407 passes a law we are forced 16143 09:21:05,407 --> 09:21:07,509 to comply with that we 16144 09:21:07,509 --> 09:21:08,760 don't agree with that has 16145 09:21:08,760 --> 09:21:08,643 consequent is in it as 16146 09:21:08,643 --> 09:21:09,244 great as being removed 16147 09:21:09,244 --> 09:21:12,244 from office that we need 16148 09:21:20,855 --> 09:21:21,388 to get very creative as 16149 09:21:21,388 --> 09:21:21,922 the largest, most 16150 09:21:21,922 --> 09:21:22,789 powerful, most diverse 16151 09:21:22,789 --> 09:21:23,357 county in miami-dade -- in 16152 09:21:23,357 --> 09:21:23,991 the state, excuse me. 16153 09:21:23,991 --> 09:21:24,825 I keep saying miami-dade. 16154 09:21:24,825 --> 09:21:25,426 To put our heads together 16155 09:21:25,426 --> 09:21:27,826 and say essentially we 16156 09:21:34,968 --> 09:21:35,602 can't protect our 16157 09:21:35,602 --> 09:21:36,136 community because that's 16158 09:21:36,136 --> 09:21:36,736 essentially what our 16159 09:21:36,736 --> 09:21:37,537 community is asking us to 16160 09:21:37,537 --> 09:21:38,471 do here because there are 16161 09:21:38,471 --> 09:21:38,705 so many that rely on those 16162 09:21:38,705 --> 09:21:39,472 dollars. 16163 09:21:39,472 --> 09:21:39,739 That's a question to the 16164 09:21:39,739 --> 09:21:40,506 attorneys. 16165 09:21:40,506 --> 09:21:41,507 I don't know that you have 16166 09:21:41,507 --> 09:21:42,410 those answers crafted for 16167 09:21:42,410 --> 09:21:42,642 us as we sit here today, 16168 09:21:42,642 --> 09:21:45,642 but I have to believe 16169 09:22:07,765 --> 09:22:08,366 there's something we can 16170 09:22:08,366 --> 09:22:08,966 use the of the power of 16171 09:22:08,966 --> 09:22:09,866 our pen to craft something 16172 09:22:09,866 --> 09:22:10,701 to help serve our majority 16173 09:22:10,701 --> 09:22:11,100 minority massive county of 16174 09:22:11,100 --> 09:22:11,735 miami-dade. 16175 09:22:11,735 --> 09:22:12,402 And if you answer and say 16176 09:22:12,402 --> 09:22:13,370 actually, the answer is 16177 09:22:13,370 --> 09:22:13,804 no, then I'll accept that 16178 09:22:13,804 --> 09:22:14,671 as well and go back to the 16179 09:22:14,671 --> 09:22:15,239 drawing board, but I want 16180 09:22:15,239 --> 09:22:16,730 to be clear that I don't 16181 09:22:16,730 --> 09:22:16,740 support encouraging 16182 09:22:16,740 --> 09:22:17,340 anybody, community groups, 16183 09:22:17,340 --> 09:22:17,541 individuals, to sue us on 16184 09:22:17,541 --> 09:22:18,375 this. 16185 09:22:18,375 --> 09:22:19,242 Our resources are already 16186 09:22:19,242 --> 09:22:19,909 extremely thin in our 16187 09:22:19,909 --> 09:22:20,243 litigation and attorneys 16188 09:22:20,243 --> 09:22:20,877 office. 16189 09:22:20,877 --> 09:22:21,778 We do not want you to sue 16190 09:22:21,778 --> 09:22:22,345 us, but equally, we are 16191 09:22:22,345 --> 09:22:23,246 looking at this, we are 16192 09:22:23,246 --> 09:22:23,913 trying to figure this out, 16193 09:22:23,913 --> 09:22:24,280 we are our very diverse 16194 09:22:24,280 --> 09:22:24,881 community. 16195 09:22:24,881 --> 09:22:25,481 We haven't figured out a 16196 09:22:25,481 --> 09:22:26,282 path forward yet, but I 16197 09:22:26,282 --> 09:22:26,949 believe we are going to be 16198 09:22:26,949 --> 09:22:27,550 working with you all very 16199 09:22:27,550 --> 09:22:28,484 closely to achieve that. 16200 09:22:28,484 --> 09:22:29,384 So is there an opportunity 16201 09:22:29,384 --> 09:22:30,190 after all, and you MAY say 16202 09:22:30,190 --> 09:22:30,820 yes, generally, or you MAY 16203 09:22:30,820 --> 09:22:31,454 say no to either pin 16204 09:22:31,454 --> 09:22:34,454 something that in any way 16205 09:22:36,692 --> 09:22:37,225 allows us to, you know, to 16206 09:22:37,225 --> 09:22:37,759 circumvent this. 16207 09:22:37,759 --> 09:22:38,393 If the answer is no, 16208 09:22:38,393 --> 09:22:39,261 preemption is preemption. 16209 09:22:39,261 --> 09:22:40,195 Is there anything we can 16210 09:22:40,195 --> 09:22:42,197 put into a charter 16211 09:22:42,197 --> 09:22:42,797 potentially, any 16212 09:22:42,797 --> 09:22:43,664 litigation you all would 16213 09:22:43,664 --> 09:22:44,299 consider that you might be 16214 09:22:44,299 --> 09:22:45,133 able to advise us even if 16215 09:22:45,133 --> 09:22:47,533 it's generally and we'll 16216 09:22:50,571 --> 09:22:51,720 have specific 16217 09:22:51,720 --> 09:22:51,705 conversations come 16218 09:22:51,705 --> 09:22:52,640 SEPTEMBER or AUGUST. 16219 09:22:52,640 --> 09:22:53,274 >> commissioner, we do not 16220 09:22:53,274 --> 09:22:54,241 believe that the charter 16221 09:22:54,241 --> 09:22:55,175 is a vehicle for amending, 16222 09:22:55,175 --> 09:22:55,843 you know, or preempting 16223 09:22:55,843 --> 09:22:56,176 state law at this point in 16224 09:22:56,176 --> 09:22:58,176 time. 16225 09:23:12,525 --> 09:23:13,459 However, we do understand 16226 09:23:13,459 --> 09:23:14,260 the impact that this will 16227 09:23:14,260 --> 09:23:14,627 have on the county's 16228 09:23:14,627 --> 09:23:15,394 operations going forward 16229 09:23:15,394 --> 09:23:16,280 both from the promotion 16230 09:23:16,280 --> 09:23:16,896 standpoint as well as the 16231 09:23:16,896 --> 09:23:17,563 funding standpoint and on 16232 09:23:17,563 --> 09:23:18,430 the community and we have 16233 09:23:18,430 --> 09:23:19,640 been meeting I would say 16234 09:23:19,640 --> 09:23:19,865 at least three times 16235 09:23:19,865 --> 09:23:20,466 weekly some days three 16236 09:23:20,466 --> 09:23:21,467 times daily because the 16237 09:23:21,467 --> 09:23:22,670 breadth of this statute is 16238 09:23:22,670 --> 09:23:24,467 expensive and it will 16239 09:23:24,870 --> 09:23:25,471 touch many areas of this 16240 09:23:25,471 --> 09:23:26,380 county and the way we 16241 09:23:26,380 --> 09:23:26,606 operate in ways people 16242 09:23:26,606 --> 09:23:29,600 maybe have not even 16243 09:23:51,263 --> 09:23:51,898 considered as of yet and I 16244 09:23:51,898 --> 09:23:52,665 just want to pledge to you 16245 09:23:52,665 --> 09:23:53,166 that we've taken it 16246 09:23:53,166 --> 09:23:53,866 seriously and we 16247 09:23:53,866 --> 09:23:54,700 understand what this means 16248 09:23:54,700 --> 09:23:55,301 to the community and we 16249 09:23:55,301 --> 09:23:56,203 will stand ready to speak 16250 09:23:56,203 --> 09:23:56,870 with each of you about any 16251 09:23:56,870 --> 09:23:57,704 options that you all have 16252 09:23:57,704 --> 09:23:58,338 going forward hopefully 16253 09:23:58,338 --> 09:23:58,939 before the budget hearing 16254 09:23:58,939 --> 09:23:59,739 in SEPTEMBER. 16255 09:23:59,739 --> 09:24:00,373 >> and final question. 16256 09:24:00,373 --> 09:24:00,907 Ou mention the budget 16257 09:24:00,907 --> 09:24:01,741 hearing come SEPTEMBER 16258 09:24:01,741 --> 09:24:02,442 because what we adopt in 16259 09:24:02,442 --> 09:24:03,376 SEPTEMBER, I understand 16260 09:24:03,376 --> 09:24:04,343 this will not take effect 16261 09:24:04,343 --> 09:24:04,911 until JANUARY 1, but we're 16262 09:24:04,911 --> 09:24:05,512 gonna pass a budget in 16263 09:24:05,512 --> 09:24:06,347 SEPTEMBER that MAY or MAY 16264 09:24:06,347 --> 09:24:07,247 not include dollars that 16265 09:24:07,247 --> 09:24:07,948 MAY be ineligible come 16266 09:24:07,948 --> 09:24:09,948 JANUARY potentially. 16267 09:24:14,554 --> 09:24:15,189 So anyway, a lot of 16268 09:24:15,189 --> 09:24:16,560 questions I look forward 16269 09:24:16,560 --> 09:24:16,690 to working with you, but I 16270 09:24:16,690 --> 09:24:17,558 just want to make clear I 16271 09:24:17,558 --> 09:24:18,125 share the sentiment that I 16272 09:24:18,125 --> 09:24:19,250 feel like we have a moral 16273 09:24:19,250 --> 09:24:19,626 and potentially legal 16274 09:24:19,626 --> 09:24:20,294 obligation to stand up as 16275 09:24:20,294 --> 09:24:22,195 a county on this issue and 16276 09:24:22,195 --> 09:24:22,829 make our voices heard as 16277 09:24:22,829 --> 09:24:23,196 possible in our lack of 16278 09:24:23,196 --> 09:24:25,196 support. 16279 09:24:30,671 --> 09:24:30,871 Thank you very much, MR. 16280 09:24:30,871 --> 09:24:31,338 Chair. 16281 09:24:31,338 --> 09:24:31,705 >> thank you, 16282 09:24:31,705 --> 09:24:32,273 commissioner. 16283 09:24:32,273 --> 09:24:32,573 You hit the nail on the 16284 09:24:32,573 --> 09:24:34,573 head there. 16285 09:24:38,790 --> 09:24:38,813 It was a good segue. 16286 09:24:38,813 --> 09:24:39,614 So in addition, of course, 16287 09:24:39,614 --> 09:24:40,515 to the countless 16288 09:24:40,515 --> 09:24:41,115 conversations with the 16289 09:24:41,115 --> 09:24:43,115 county attorney's office 16290 09:24:52,293 --> 09:24:53,327 on this topic, the mayor 16291 09:24:53,327 --> 09:24:53,861 and myself has had several 16292 09:24:53,861 --> 09:24:54,528 conversations. 16293 09:24:54,528 --> 09:24:55,330 We've actually rolled up 16294 09:24:55,330 --> 09:24:55,997 our sleeves and I think 16295 09:24:55,997 --> 09:24:56,832 this is a good moment to 16296 09:24:56,832 --> 09:24:57,465 allow and to say to the 16297 09:24:57,465 --> 09:25:00,465 community that we are not 16298 09:25:28,630 --> 09:25:28,731 just taking what the state 16299 09:25:28,731 --> 09:25:29,198 passed and the governor 16300 09:25:29,198 --> 09:25:29,732 signed and blindly 16301 09:25:29,732 --> 09:25:30,566 implement thing it. 16302 09:25:30,566 --> 09:25:31,200 We are rolling up our 16303 09:25:31,200 --> 09:25:32,101 sleeves and we are seeing, 16304 09:25:32,101 --> 09:25:32,768 we are digging deeper and 16305 09:25:32,768 --> 09:25:33,735 seeing what other services 16306 09:25:33,735 --> 09:25:34,636 these organizations offer, 16307 09:25:34,636 --> 09:25:35,304 who they help in our 16308 09:25:35,304 --> 09:25:35,905 community, what larger 16309 09:25:35,905 --> 09:25:36,472 groups that are not just 16310 09:25:36,472 --> 09:25:37,173 one minority group. 16311 09:25:37,173 --> 09:25:37,807 We are not trying to 16312 09:25:37,807 --> 09:25:38,374 circumvent the law, we are 16313 09:25:38,374 --> 09:25:38,908 not trying to find a 16314 09:25:38,908 --> 09:25:39,742 loophole, but we are 16315 09:25:39,742 --> 09:25:40,376 trying to dig deeper and 16316 09:25:40,376 --> 09:25:40,976 see what broader service 16317 09:25:40,976 --> 09:25:42,278 do these organizations 16318 09:25:42,278 --> 09:25:42,812 help fund and support and 16319 09:25:42,812 --> 09:25:43,412 the entire community, not 16320 09:25:43,412 --> 09:25:44,179 just any minority portion 16321 09:25:44,179 --> 09:25:44,946 of it, in order to make 16322 09:25:44,946 --> 09:25:45,782 sure that we can maintain 16323 09:25:45,782 --> 09:25:46,349 some of these services. 16324 09:25:46,349 --> 09:25:46,883 The mayor has been an 16325 09:25:46,883 --> 09:25:49,283 advocate of that since 16326 09:25:59,729 --> 09:26:00,396 this was even a discussion 16327 09:26:00,396 --> 09:26:00,897 prior to being signed by 16328 09:26:00,897 --> 09:26:02,264 the governor. 16329 09:26:02,264 --> 09:26:02,865 And again, we had several 16330 09:26:02,865 --> 09:26:03,766 conversations where we've 16331 09:26:03,766 --> 09:26:04,434 actually discussed this. 16332 09:26:04,434 --> 09:26:05,268 Again, it is not something 16333 09:26:05,268 --> 09:26:05,936 that we are just blindly 16334 09:26:05,936 --> 09:26:06,503 implement thing something 16335 09:26:06,503 --> 09:26:07,271 that the state passed. 16336 09:26:07,271 --> 09:26:08,380 We are exploring all 16337 09:26:08,380 --> 09:26:08,905 options obviously jointly 16338 09:26:08,905 --> 09:26:09,406 with the county attorney's 16339 09:26:09,406 --> 09:26:09,906 office. 16340 09:26:09,906 --> 09:26:10,340 We want to make sure we 16341 09:26:10,340 --> 09:26:10,907 run no fowls here. 16342 09:26:10,907 --> 09:26:11,608 And we are in this 16343 09:26:11,608 --> 09:26:12,475 particular case, and some 16344 09:26:12,475 --> 09:26:13,410 MAY disagree with this one 16345 09:26:13,410 --> 09:26:14,143 word, but we need to be 16346 09:26:14,143 --> 09:26:15,145 conservative because there 16347 09:26:15,145 --> 09:26:15,779 are personal repercussions 16348 09:26:15,779 --> 09:26:19,379 that the state can take on 16349 09:26:26,958 --> 09:26:27,792 this body including I 16350 09:26:27,792 --> 09:26:28,920 believe removal is one of 16351 09:26:28,920 --> 09:26:28,859 them, right? 16352 09:26:28,859 --> 09:26:29,793 So we're making sure we 16353 09:26:29,793 --> 09:26:30,361 run no fowls, but that we 16354 09:26:30,361 --> 09:26:32,361 definitely explore all 16355 09:26:42,139 --> 09:26:42,806 options on this. 16356 09:26:42,806 --> 09:26:43,674 Guys, I'm not changing 16357 09:26:43,674 --> 09:26:44,800 subjects, we are not into 16358 09:26:44,800 --> 09:26:44,341 kindergarten. 16359 09:26:44,341 --> 09:26:45,276 I got you all. 16360 09:26:45,276 --> 09:26:46,210 But they are, if you want 16361 09:26:46,210 --> 09:26:46,878 to kind of address that 16362 09:26:46,878 --> 09:26:47,412 because it was a segue to 16363 09:26:47,412 --> 09:26:47,712 what we've been working 16364 09:26:47,712 --> 09:26:48,379 on. 16365 09:26:48,379 --> 09:26:50,379 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 16366 09:27:00,325 --> 09:27:01,250 thank you so much, MR. 16367 09:27:01,250 --> 09:27:01,859 Chair, and I completely 16368 09:27:01,859 --> 09:27:02,360 agree with how you've 16369 09:27:02,360 --> 09:27:02,927 characterized it. 16370 09:27:02,927 --> 09:27:03,461 We've been looking at 16371 09:27:03,461 --> 09:27:04,950 other counties, other 16372 09:27:04,950 --> 09:27:04,862 cities, other commissions, 16373 09:27:04,862 --> 09:27:05,430 other organizations and 16374 09:27:05,430 --> 09:27:05,664 what actions they are 16375 09:27:05,664 --> 09:27:06,365 taking. 16376 09:27:06,365 --> 09:27:06,998 A lot of people obviously 16377 09:27:06,998 --> 09:27:07,399 trying to figure out how 16378 09:27:07,399 --> 09:27:09,399 to proceed. 16379 09:27:09,568 --> 09:27:10,602 Will during 16380 09:27:10,602 --> 09:27:11,236 our budget briefings share 16381 09:27:11,236 --> 09:27:11,869 some ideas that I have not 16382 09:27:11,869 --> 09:27:12,604 only for nonprofits, but 16383 09:27:12,604 --> 09:27:13,238 for our own internal 16384 09:27:13,238 --> 09:27:15,638 operations, ways that we 16385 09:27:16,107 --> 09:27:16,708 can ensure that community 16386 09:27:16,708 --> 09:27:17,309 voices can still be heard. 16387 09:27:17,309 --> 09:27:18,177 Thank you, MR. Chair. 16388 09:27:18,177 --> 09:27:18,710 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16389 09:27:18,710 --> 09:27:19,644 all right, so I've got 16390 09:27:19,644 --> 09:27:21,460 commissioner from district 16391 09:27:21,460 --> 09:27:23,460 4. Commissioner. 16392 09:27:27,586 --> 09:27:27,986 >> okay, dislike and 16393 09:27:27,986 --> 09:27:29,210 recurring -- 16394 09:27:29,210 --> 09:27:29,622 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: is 16395 09:27:29,622 --> 09:27:30,220 either you or you lose 16396 09:27:30,220 --> 09:27:30,556 your spot. 16397 09:27:30,556 --> 09:27:32,556 >> all right. 16398 09:27:39,298 --> 09:27:39,565 So I want us to just take 16399 09:27:39,565 --> 09:27:40,199 a moment. 16400 09:27:40,199 --> 09:27:40,800 If you look around the 16401 09:27:40,800 --> 09:27:40,999 room, look around this 16402 09:27:40,999 --> 09:27:41,701 dais. 16403 09:27:41,701 --> 09:27:42,301 This bill affects every, 16404 09:27:42,301 --> 09:27:42,834 in some form, in some 16405 09:27:42,834 --> 09:27:44,834 capacity, effects 16406 09:27:56,316 --> 09:27:57,183 everyone of us, us, okay? 16407 09:27:57,183 --> 09:27:57,384 This is such an expansive 16408 09:27:57,384 --> 09:27:57,950 bill. 16409 09:27:57,950 --> 09:27:58,718 You MAY think oh, it's 16410 09:27:58,718 --> 09:27:59,319 some bill that won't 16411 09:27:59,319 --> 09:27:59,919 affect me, but it does. 16412 09:27:59,919 --> 09:28:00,720 But it does because it 16413 09:28:00,720 --> 09:28:01,354 affects every one of us up 16414 09:28:01,354 --> 09:28:01,954 here to some degree. 16415 09:28:01,954 --> 09:28:04,354 That's how broadly this 16416 09:28:07,761 --> 09:28:08,395 bill is written. 16417 09:28:08,395 --> 09:28:09,129 To that, I want to first 16418 09:28:09,129 --> 09:28:09,696 of all thank you, 16419 09:28:09,696 --> 09:28:10,296 commissioner lopez, for 16420 09:28:10,296 --> 09:28:10,931 bringing this forward. 16421 09:28:10,931 --> 09:28:11,664 I think it's important 16422 09:28:11,664 --> 09:28:12,298 that we have this 16423 09:28:12,298 --> 09:28:12,732 conversation, of course 16424 09:28:12,732 --> 09:28:13,399 mindful of the 16425 09:28:13,399 --> 09:28:15,799 conversation because we do 16426 09:28:34,321 --> 09:28:34,955 have our attorneys over 16427 09:28:34,955 --> 09:28:35,623 there, and we do want to 16428 09:28:35,623 --> 09:28:36,324 make sure we put ourselves 16429 09:28:36,324 --> 09:28:36,590 in the best posture 16430 09:28:36,590 --> 09:28:37,391 possible. 16431 09:28:37,391 --> 09:28:37,959 So I just want clarity in 16432 09:28:37,959 --> 09:28:38,826 exactly what you want us 16433 09:28:38,826 --> 09:28:39,793 to try to resolve today or 16434 09:28:39,793 --> 09:28:40,160 give direction with, but I 16435 09:28:40,160 --> 09:28:40,861 will say this. 16436 09:28:40,861 --> 09:28:41,495 We do need to be careful. 16437 09:28:41,495 --> 09:28:42,429 Mean, we can look at 16438 09:28:42,429 --> 09:28:43,970 this through many 16439 09:28:43,970 --> 09:28:43,966 different lenses and I for 16440 09:28:43,966 --> 09:28:44,665 one obviously because 16441 09:28:44,665 --> 09:28:45,466 there's so much ambiguity, 16442 09:28:45,466 --> 09:28:45,967 I would take advantage of 16443 09:28:45,967 --> 09:28:46,467 that ambiguity, 16444 09:28:46,467 --> 09:28:46,968 personally. 16445 09:28:46,968 --> 09:28:47,635 But as they look at me, 16446 09:28:47,635 --> 09:28:48,268 but I do think that, you 16447 09:28:48,268 --> 09:28:49,300 know, to have the 16448 09:28:49,300 --> 09:28:51,403 attorneys explore and come 16449 09:29:07,388 --> 09:29:08,230 back to us individually I 16450 09:29:08,230 --> 09:29:08,223 think is the smart first 16451 09:29:08,223 --> 09:29:08,923 step. 16452 09:29:08,923 --> 09:29:09,524 That way we get as much 16453 09:29:09,524 --> 09:29:10,425 clarity and we can have 16454 09:29:10,425 --> 09:29:11,920 these conversations 16455 09:29:11,920 --> 09:29:11,693 because if we do end up in 16456 09:29:11,693 --> 09:29:12,527 any sort of situation in 16457 09:29:12,527 --> 09:29:13,427 the future, I want to make 16458 09:29:13,427 --> 09:29:14,280 sure that we, again, put 16459 09:29:14,280 --> 09:29:14,562 ourselves in the best 16460 09:29:14,562 --> 09:29:15,164 posture forward. 16461 09:29:15,164 --> 09:29:15,964 CHAIRMAN, I do think if 16462 09:29:15,964 --> 09:29:16,631 that was a motion, just 16463 09:29:16,631 --> 09:29:17,165 rephrase it, I'm happy to 16464 09:29:17,165 --> 09:29:17,999 second that motion. 16465 09:29:17,999 --> 09:29:18,633 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16466 09:29:18,633 --> 09:29:18,967 all right, so is that the 16467 09:29:18,967 --> 09:29:19,334 motion? 16468 09:29:19,334 --> 09:29:19,935 >> it was. 16469 09:29:19,935 --> 09:29:20,635 I will rephrase it to 16470 09:29:20,635 --> 09:29:21,636 direct the county attorney 16471 09:29:21,636 --> 09:29:22,504 to research the county's 16472 09:29:22,504 --> 09:29:23,138 ability to challenge the 16473 09:29:23,138 --> 09:29:25,538 validity of senate bill 34 16474 09:29:26,876 --> 09:29:27,543 or alternatively asked the 16475 09:29:27,543 --> 09:29:28,377 court to clarify and brief 16476 09:29:28,377 --> 09:29:29,378 each commissioner 16477 09:29:29,378 --> 09:29:31,378 individually regarding the 16478 09:29:33,248 --> 09:29:33,615 results of their research. 16479 09:29:33,615 --> 09:29:34,216 >> MAY I? 16480 09:29:34,216 --> 09:29:36,216 >> its order, though. 16481 09:29:50,866 --> 09:29:51,534 It's either or. 16482 09:29:51,534 --> 09:29:52,134 >> just want them to 16483 09:29:52,134 --> 09:29:52,902 research it and get back 16484 09:29:52,902 --> 09:29:53,536 to us individually to let 16485 09:29:53,536 --> 09:29:53,702 us know what our options 16486 09:29:53,702 --> 09:29:54,469 are. 16487 09:29:54,469 --> 09:29:55,700 >> because let me tell you 16488 09:29:55,700 --> 09:29:55,905 one concern of the route 16489 09:29:55,905 --> 09:29:56,573 of just going straight to 16490 09:29:56,573 --> 09:29:57,407 the board is that -- well, 16491 09:29:57,407 --> 09:29:57,974 I don't know legally what 16492 09:29:57,974 --> 09:29:58,908 we can and can't do in 16493 09:29:58,908 --> 09:29:59,909 terms of standing, but 16494 09:29:59,909 --> 09:30:02,909 that's for them to figure 16495 09:30:16,593 --> 09:30:17,227 out. 16496 09:30:17,227 --> 09:30:17,828 You know, I don't want to 16497 09:30:17,828 --> 09:30:18,595 have them determine for 16498 09:30:18,595 --> 09:30:19,262 us, like, I'd rather us 16499 09:30:19,262 --> 09:30:19,896 create our positions. 16500 09:30:19,896 --> 09:30:20,897 What if they are looking 16501 09:30:20,897 --> 09:30:21,631 at other municipalities 16502 09:30:21,631 --> 09:30:22,132 and other counties and 16503 09:30:22,132 --> 09:30:22,699 they are also being 16504 09:30:22,699 --> 09:30:23,266 affected of this up and 16505 09:30:23,266 --> 09:30:23,733 down the coast of this 16506 09:30:23,733 --> 09:30:24,633 wonderful state. 16507 09:30:24,633 --> 09:30:25,235 So what's gonna happen is 16508 09:30:25,235 --> 09:30:26,136 some MAY have a more 16509 09:30:26,136 --> 09:30:26,804 liberal interpretation and 16510 09:30:26,804 --> 09:30:27,638 I don't want to then hurt 16511 09:30:27,638 --> 09:30:28,305 those municipalities or 16512 09:30:28,305 --> 09:30:29,741 counties because now we're 16513 09:30:29,741 --> 09:30:30,273 seeking some sort of 16514 09:30:30,273 --> 09:30:30,807 rendering from a court 16515 09:30:30,807 --> 09:30:31,708 that MAY look at it 16516 09:30:31,708 --> 09:30:32,209 through anymore, as the 16517 09:30:32,209 --> 09:30:32,842 term was used, 16518 09:30:32,842 --> 09:30:33,410 conservative lens, and we 16519 09:30:33,410 --> 09:30:36,410 MAY now hurt maybe some 16520 09:30:50,594 --> 09:30:50,794 other municipality in the 16521 09:30:50,794 --> 09:30:51,194 state. 16522 09:30:51,194 --> 09:30:51,962 So I don't know. 16523 09:30:51,962 --> 09:30:52,630 So I like the idea of 16524 09:30:52,630 --> 09:30:53,970 supporting the direction 16525 09:30:53,970 --> 09:30:53,731 to explore. 16526 09:30:53,731 --> 09:30:54,798 I need to know more about 16527 09:30:54,798 --> 09:30:55,366 it before, so maybe you 16528 09:30:55,366 --> 09:30:56,100 can restate that to say -- 16529 09:30:56,100 --> 09:30:56,968 >> okay, then I'll restate 16530 09:30:56,968 --> 09:30:57,535 it to explore the options 16531 09:30:57,535 --> 09:30:58,369 available to us of the 16532 09:30:58,369 --> 09:30:58,970 impacts of senate bill 16533 09:30:58,970 --> 09:31:01,970 1134 and get back to us 16534 09:31:09,280 --> 09:31:09,447 individually. 16535 09:31:09,447 --> 09:31:10,281 Yes. 16536 09:31:10,281 --> 09:31:10,448 >> with options including 16537 09:31:10,448 --> 09:31:10,915 -- 16538 09:31:10,915 --> 09:31:11,783 >> all options. 16539 09:31:11,783 --> 09:31:12,450 I would say all options. 16540 09:31:12,450 --> 09:31:13,500 >> I think all options 16541 09:31:13,500 --> 09:31:13,851 should be on the table. 16542 09:31:13,851 --> 09:31:14,685 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: we 16543 09:31:14,685 --> 09:31:15,320 got a motion, we got a 16544 09:31:15,320 --> 09:31:16,880 second by commissioner 16545 09:31:16,880 --> 09:31:16,822 steinberg, and 16546 09:31:16,822 --> 09:31:17,322 commissioner gilbert, 16547 09:31:17,322 --> 09:31:17,923 you're still recognized. 16548 09:31:17,923 --> 09:31:18,523 I stripped you from the 16549 09:31:18,523 --> 09:31:19,324 conversation because you 16550 09:31:19,324 --> 09:31:20,992 were talking about 16551 09:31:20,992 --> 09:31:21,693 lawsuits and stuff. 16552 09:31:21,693 --> 09:31:22,493 >> Oliver Gilbert: it was 16553 09:31:22,493 --> 09:31:22,760 a comma and then it was 16554 09:31:22,760 --> 09:31:23,494 a period. 16555 09:31:23,494 --> 09:31:24,129 I don't want people to 16556 09:31:24,129 --> 09:31:24,929 come after us for money, 16557 09:31:24,929 --> 09:31:25,731 but if we createe an 16558 09:31:25,731 --> 09:31:28,131 application process for, I 16559 09:31:47,190 --> 09:31:47,520 don't know, our, you know, 16560 09:31:47,520 --> 09:31:48,120 community-based 16561 09:31:48,120 --> 09:31:49,210 organization funds, money 16562 09:31:49,210 --> 09:31:49,588 that we give out, and for 16563 09:31:49,588 --> 09:31:50,189 instance, some of the 16564 09:31:50,189 --> 09:31:50,990 groups that are affected, 16565 09:31:50,990 --> 09:31:51,790 they apply but we don't 16566 09:31:51,790 --> 09:31:52,591 accept their application 16567 09:31:52,591 --> 09:31:53,225 because we can't under the 16568 09:31:53,225 --> 09:31:54,293 new law, then they get to 16569 09:31:54,293 --> 09:31:54,693 seek declaratory judgment 16570 09:31:54,693 --> 09:31:55,261 against us. 16571 09:31:55,261 --> 09:31:55,628 That's how you get to 16572 09:31:55,628 --> 09:31:56,129 court. 16573 09:31:56,129 --> 09:31:56,696 Faster. 16574 09:31:56,696 --> 09:31:57,300 That's just how you get to 16575 09:31:57,300 --> 09:31:59,300 court faster. 16576 09:32:02,340 --> 09:32:02,602 We -- I appreciate we 16577 09:32:02,602 --> 09:32:03,302 can't -- it's gonna be 16578 09:32:03,302 --> 09:32:04,690 hard for us to sue you, so 16579 09:32:04,690 --> 09:32:07,669 if you want to get to 16580 09:32:08,341 --> 09:32:08,908 court before JANUARY, I 16581 09:32:08,908 --> 09:32:09,509 think that's -- and we 16582 09:32:09,509 --> 09:32:11,911 need somebody to tell us 16583 09:32:11,911 --> 09:32:12,578 how to interpret this 16584 09:32:12,578 --> 09:32:14,978 because, to your credit, 16585 09:32:23,556 --> 09:32:24,190 MR. CHAIRMAN, there's 16586 09:32:24,190 --> 09:32:25,580 peril here for elected 16587 09:32:25,580 --> 09:32:25,759 officials and public 16588 09:32:25,759 --> 09:32:26,293 officials who actually go 16589 09:32:26,293 --> 09:32:26,827 against this statute. 16590 09:32:26,827 --> 09:32:27,594 So it's dangerous. 16591 09:32:27,594 --> 09:32:30,594 I think we create a 16592 09:32:31,731 --> 09:32:32,365 process because they won't 16593 09:32:32,365 --> 09:32:33,300 be able to receive funds 16594 09:32:33,300 --> 09:32:33,800 under that process because 16595 09:32:33,800 --> 09:32:35,800 of the statute. 16596 09:32:40,674 --> 09:32:41,274 They look at it, I mean, 16597 09:32:41,274 --> 09:32:41,908 that's -- now, the other 16598 09:32:41,908 --> 09:32:42,376 route, I don't know if 16599 09:32:42,376 --> 09:32:44,376 this is possible. 16600 09:32:46,647 --> 09:32:47,248 We can also just give all 16601 09:32:47,248 --> 09:32:47,882 of our money for these 16602 09:32:47,882 --> 09:32:48,649 type of events to the 16603 09:32:48,649 --> 09:32:51,490 miami foundation and let 16604 09:32:55,390 --> 09:32:56,570 them administer it. 16605 09:32:56,570 --> 09:32:56,858 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16606 09:32:56,858 --> 09:32:57,492 well, I think it goes 16607 09:32:57,492 --> 09:32:57,859 further than just cbo's, 16608 09:32:57,859 --> 09:32:58,358 though. 16609 09:32:58,358 --> 09:32:58,860 Its departments. 16610 09:32:58,860 --> 09:33:00,940 Is everything. 16611 09:33:00,940 --> 09:33:00,962 >> Oliver Gilbert: we can 16612 09:33:00,962 --> 09:33:01,595 start by doing something 16613 09:33:01,595 --> 09:33:01,795 like that and see if it's 16614 09:33:01,795 --> 09:33:02,163 legal. 16615 09:33:02,163 --> 09:33:04,163 You never know. 16616 09:33:04,798 --> 09:33:05,399 We could start doing 16617 09:33:05,399 --> 09:33:05,967 something like that. 16618 09:33:05,967 --> 09:33:06,301 I think but those are 16619 09:33:06,301 --> 09:33:08,301 options. 16620 09:33:20,810 --> 09:33:20,682 I'm not advocating that 16621 09:33:20,682 --> 09:33:21,583 they sue us for money. 16622 09:33:21,583 --> 09:33:22,217 I'm advocating that we 16623 09:33:22,217 --> 09:33:22,750 need to actually get in 16624 09:33:22,750 --> 09:33:23,584 front of a judge and 16625 09:33:23,584 --> 09:33:24,185 that's probably the 16626 09:33:24,185 --> 09:33:24,986 quickest way for a judge 16627 09:33:24,986 --> 09:33:25,587 to tell us whether this 16628 09:33:25,587 --> 09:33:26,588 law is binding or not. 16629 09:33:26,588 --> 09:33:27,255 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16630 09:33:27,255 --> 09:33:27,989 commissioner from district 16631 09:33:27,989 --> 09:33:28,490 12. 16632 09:33:28,490 --> 09:33:29,124 >> I'll be brief. 16633 09:33:29,124 --> 09:33:29,691 I'm fine with the motion 16634 09:33:29,691 --> 09:33:30,492 because we need to get 16635 09:33:30,492 --> 09:33:31,126 their opinion, but I just 16636 09:33:31,126 --> 09:33:31,726 want to remind this AUGUST 16637 09:33:31,726 --> 09:33:32,360 body that during the 16638 09:33:32,360 --> 09:33:34,360 double taxation, triple 16639 09:33:42,204 --> 09:33:42,804 taxation days, mitigation, 16640 09:33:42,804 --> 09:33:43,438 some of you were here, 16641 09:33:43,438 --> 09:33:44,406 king george, you know who 16642 09:33:44,406 --> 09:33:47,406 he was, and the commission 16643 09:33:50,450 --> 09:33:50,980 that was a bill passed in 16644 09:33:50,980 --> 09:33:51,647 tallahassee eliminating 16645 09:33:51,647 --> 09:33:54,470 mitigation, not making it 16646 09:34:00,456 --> 09:34:01,900 a one county issue because 16647 09:34:01,900 --> 09:34:01,891 that was the issue they 16648 09:34:01,891 --> 09:34:02,324 had to get around, and the 16649 09:34:02,324 --> 09:34:03,250 county sued. 16650 09:34:03,250 --> 09:34:03,392 The county sued over that 16651 09:34:03,392 --> 09:34:05,392 state law. 16652 09:34:10,933 --> 09:34:11,634 Eventually, we reached an 16653 09:34:11,634 --> 09:34:12,435 agreement, king george and 16654 09:34:12,435 --> 09:34:13,690 I, and mitigation was 16655 09:34:13,690 --> 09:34:13,936 given up by the county 16656 09:34:13,936 --> 09:34:14,603 because legally this was 16657 09:34:14,603 --> 09:34:17,603 state law, but the county, 16658 09:34:26,950 --> 09:34:27,890 the county went into the 16659 09:34:27,890 --> 09:34:28,518 courts, first lost at the 16660 09:34:28,518 --> 09:34:29,486 beginning because it was 16661 09:34:29,486 --> 09:34:30,420 in tallahassee and then 16662 09:34:30,420 --> 09:34:31,122 brought it down to a local 16663 09:34:31,122 --> 09:34:31,921 judge here in miami-dade 16664 09:34:31,921 --> 09:34:32,388 county who had once been a 16665 09:34:32,388 --> 09:34:33,220 county attorney. 16666 09:34:33,220 --> 09:34:33,923 So all I'm telling you, 16667 09:34:33,923 --> 09:34:36,923 because I agree with our 16668 09:34:43,667 --> 09:34:44,668 CHAIRMAN That these are 16669 09:34:44,668 --> 09:34:45,202 different times in a 16670 09:34:45,202 --> 09:34:45,736 different world and I do 16671 09:34:45,736 --> 09:34:46,337 think that we have to be 16672 09:34:46,337 --> 09:34:46,871 very smart in the way that 16673 09:34:46,871 --> 09:34:48,172 we deal with the reality 16674 09:34:48,172 --> 09:34:48,706 of what's happening from 16675 09:34:48,706 --> 09:34:49,373 tallahassee, but the fact 16676 09:34:49,373 --> 09:34:50,700 that if the county has an 16677 09:34:50,700 --> 09:34:50,840 opinion on a certain law 16678 09:34:50,840 --> 09:34:53,240 that MAY impact the 16679 09:34:56,447 --> 09:34:57,480 county, the excuse that 16680 09:34:57,480 --> 09:34:57,848 that's not one -- MAY not 16681 09:34:57,848 --> 09:34:58,449 be the best option, MAY 16682 09:34:58,449 --> 09:34:58,983 not be the one you guys 16683 09:34:58,983 --> 09:35:01,383 recommend, but in the 16684 09:35:01,585 --> 09:35:05,122 past, you did sue over a 16685 09:35:05,122 --> 09:35:06,240 state law that was passed. 16686 09:35:06,240 --> 09:35:08,240 That supported 16687 09:35:12,763 --> 09:35:13,397 municipalities because I 16688 09:35:13,397 --> 09:35:13,964 was the one on the other 16689 09:35:13,964 --> 09:35:14,231 side that had to fight 16690 09:35:14,231 --> 09:35:15,233 you. 16691 09:35:15,233 --> 09:35:18,833 I can tell you that's not 16692 09:35:26,177 --> 09:35:26,778 impossible. 16693 09:35:26,778 --> 09:35:27,345 Now, whether that will 16694 09:35:27,345 --> 09:35:27,812 place you in the same 16695 09:35:27,812 --> 09:35:28,313 position as an 16696 09:35:28,313 --> 09:35:29,180 organization that is 16697 09:35:29,180 --> 09:35:29,480 impacted directly, that we 16698 09:35:29,480 --> 09:35:30,181 can debate. 16699 09:35:30,181 --> 09:35:30,815 but when you look at 16700 09:35:30,815 --> 09:35:31,750 these, when you look at 16701 09:35:31,750 --> 09:35:33,151 these cases, I'm gonna ask 16702 09:35:33,151 --> 09:35:33,885 you then why the **** 16703 09:35:33,885 --> 09:35:34,485 did you sue me back in 16704 09:35:34,485 --> 09:35:35,487 2006 because truthfully 16705 09:35:35,487 --> 09:35:36,210 that was a state law that 16706 09:35:36,210 --> 09:35:38,210 was passed bipartisan 16707 09:35:38,590 --> 09:35:39,458 signed by the governor. 16708 09:35:39,458 --> 09:35:39,724 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16709 09:35:39,724 --> 09:35:41,393 all right. 16710 09:35:41,393 --> 09:35:43,793 Vice CHAIRMAN About to 16711 09:35:46,665 --> 09:35:47,533 call a motion. 16712 09:35:47,533 --> 09:35:48,200 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 16713 09:35:48,200 --> 09:35:49,680 thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 16714 09:35:49,680 --> 09:35:50,690 What I'm about to say is 16715 09:35:50,690 --> 09:35:53,690 probably not going to be 16716 09:35:54,172 --> 09:35:54,873 popular, but I am putting 16717 09:35:54,873 --> 09:35:56,873 the county attorney's 16718 09:36:03,982 --> 09:36:04,850 office on notice. 16719 09:36:04,850 --> 09:36:05,117 I'm also putting the state 16720 09:36:05,117 --> 09:36:05,852 on notice. 16721 09:36:05,852 --> 09:36:06,486 ****, I'm putting 16722 09:36:06,486 --> 09:36:07,420 everybody on notice. 16723 09:36:07,420 --> 09:36:08,120 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: as 16724 09:36:08,120 --> 09:36:11,120 a personal person, not as 16725 09:36:11,590 --> 09:36:11,957 a commissioner on this 16726 09:36:11,957 --> 09:36:12,658 body. 16727 09:36:12,658 --> 09:36:13,659 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16728 09:36:13,659 --> 09:36:13,959 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 16729 09:36:13,959 --> 09:36:14,559 correct. 16730 09:36:14,559 --> 09:36:15,462 If removal is what it's 16731 09:36:15,462 --> 09:36:17,862 gonna take, especially for 16732 09:36:26,907 --> 09:36:27,507 those in my districtwho 16733 09:36:27,507 --> 09:36:28,475 are going to be affected, 16734 09:36:28,475 --> 09:36:28,975 if removal is the option 16735 09:36:28,975 --> 09:36:29,609 of the state of the 16736 09:36:29,609 --> 09:36:30,377 governor, then removal 16737 09:36:30,377 --> 09:36:31,377 it's gonna have to be. 16738 09:36:31,377 --> 09:36:33,813 I intend to encourage my 16739 09:36:33,813 --> 09:36:34,447 residents and those who I 16740 09:36:34,447 --> 09:36:35,140 support to break this law. 16741 09:36:35,140 --> 09:36:35,315 I intend -- come on, 16742 09:36:35,315 --> 09:36:35,449 please. 16743 09:36:35,449 --> 09:36:37,449 Lease. 16744 09:36:39,653 --> 09:36:42,653 I intend, if possible, to 16745 09:36:47,461 --> 09:36:48,950 fund organizations that 16746 09:36:48,950 --> 09:36:48,462 support uplifting this 16747 09:36:48,462 --> 09:36:49,196 community. 16748 09:36:49,196 --> 09:36:49,997 And if that is making some 16749 09:36:49,997 --> 09:36:51,997 people uncomfortable, 16750 09:36:52,765 --> 09:36:53,366 well, I believe those in 16751 09:36:53,366 --> 09:36:54,340 tallahassee should have 16752 09:36:54,340 --> 09:36:54,768 thought it through because 16753 09:36:54,768 --> 09:36:57,768 now they are making us 16754 09:37:02,976 --> 09:37:03,777 feel uncomfortable and I 16755 09:37:03,777 --> 09:37:04,378 am not going back to my 16756 09:37:04,378 --> 09:37:05,450 district facing the people 16757 09:37:05,450 --> 09:37:05,846 who put me in office to 16758 09:37:05,846 --> 09:37:06,447 represent their voice and 16759 09:37:06,447 --> 09:37:06,914 their position and tell 16760 09:37:06,914 --> 09:37:09,314 them that they are 16761 09:37:30,605 --> 09:37:31,105 representative chose to 16762 09:37:31,105 --> 09:37:31,973 hold onto a seat as 16763 09:37:31,973 --> 09:37:32,340 opposed to fighting for 16764 09:37:32,340 --> 09:37:32,974 their position. 16765 09:37:32,974 --> 09:37:33,508 So I'm just putting 16766 09:37:33,508 --> 09:37:34,475 everyone on notice I 16767 09:37:34,475 --> 09:37:35,144 intend to encourage a 16768 09:37:35,144 --> 09:37:36,111 different result from many 16769 09:37:36,111 --> 09:37:36,778 up here, but I'm not going 16770 09:37:36,778 --> 09:37:37,613 to back down on this one. 16771 09:37:37,613 --> 09:37:38,180 This is the one where we 16772 09:37:38,180 --> 09:37:38,413 put the flag into the 16773 09:37:38,413 --> 09:37:39,181 ground. 16774 09:37:39,181 --> 09:37:39,447 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16775 09:37:39,447 --> 09:37:40,148 all right. 16776 09:37:40,148 --> 09:37:40,382 I got a motion, we got a 16777 09:37:40,382 --> 09:37:41,149 second. 16778 09:37:41,149 --> 09:37:41,449 All in favor signify by 16779 09:37:41,449 --> 09:37:42,217 saying aye. 16780 09:37:42,217 --> 09:37:42,651 All opposed, nay. Show it 16781 09:37:42,651 --> 09:37:43,151 passed. 16782 09:37:43,151 --> 09:37:43,985 Nonattorney or MR. 16783 09:37:43,985 --> 09:37:44,519 Attorney, there's a motion 16784 09:37:44,519 --> 09:37:45,454 that I have and then 16785 09:37:45,454 --> 09:37:46,388 we're them a go around the 16786 09:37:46,388 --> 09:37:49,388 room for motions, but will 16787 09:37:59,435 --> 09:37:59,668 you start with mine, 16788 09:37:59,668 --> 09:38:00,135 please? 16789 09:38:00,135 --> 09:38:00,936 I have two or three? 16790 09:38:00,936 --> 09:38:01,537 >> are we going to make it 16791 09:38:01,537 --> 09:38:02,171 to -- what's the plan? 16792 09:38:02,171 --> 09:38:02,738 >> vicki lopez to the 16793 09:38:02,738 --> 09:38:03,639 miami river commission. 16794 09:38:03,639 --> 09:38:04,439 > CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16795 09:38:04,439 --> 09:38:05,808 all right. 16796 09:38:05,808 --> 09:38:06,409 Commissioner gonzalez 16797 09:38:06,409 --> 09:38:07,276 moves that item for me, 16798 09:38:07,276 --> 09:38:07,877 seconded by commissioner 16799 09:38:07,877 --> 09:38:08,777 regalado. All in favor 16800 09:38:08,777 --> 09:38:11,777 say aye five by saying 16801 09:38:12,548 --> 09:38:13,115 aye. 16802 09:38:13,115 --> 09:38:13,716 All opposed, nay. 16803 09:38:13,716 --> 09:38:14,550 Show it passed. 16804 09:38:14,550 --> 09:38:15,919 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriguez 16805 09:38:15,919 --> 09:38:19,355 moves to -- to cancel the 16806 09:38:19,355 --> 09:38:19,589 JULY 23, 2026 zoning 16807 09:38:19,589 --> 09:38:20,389 meeting. 16808 09:38:20,389 --> 09:38:21,357 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16809 09:38:21,357 --> 09:38:22,258 this is this thursday's 16810 09:38:22,258 --> 09:38:22,892 meeting. 16811 09:38:22,892 --> 09:38:25,892 We've got on it about, 16812 09:38:34,237 --> 09:38:35,172 like, three items. 16813 09:38:35,172 --> 09:38:35,805 We will just be sending it 16814 09:38:35,805 --> 09:38:36,172 to the very next zoning 16815 09:38:36,172 --> 09:38:37,600 meeting. 16816 09:38:37,600 --> 09:38:37,507 It's been moved by 16817 09:38:37,507 --> 09:38:37,974 commissioner gonzalez, 16818 09:38:37,974 --> 09:38:38,175 seconded by the vice 16819 09:38:38,175 --> 09:38:38,875 chair. 16820 09:38:38,875 --> 09:38:39,242 All in favors signify by 16821 09:38:39,242 --> 09:38:41,242 saying aye. 16822 09:38:44,347 --> 09:38:45,114 All opposed nay. Show 16823 09:38:45,114 --> 09:38:45,849 that meeting canceled and 16824 09:38:45,849 --> 09:38:46,350 the motion passed. Is 16825 09:38:46,350 --> 09:38:47,170 that all for me? 16826 09:38:47,170 --> 09:38:47,551 >> that's all I have for 16827 09:38:47,551 --> 09:38:48,418 you, MR. CHAIRMAN. 16828 09:38:48,418 --> 09:38:49,386 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16829 09:38:49,386 --> 09:38:51,386 commissioner bermudez, 16830 09:38:55,760 --> 09:38:55,993 you'ree recognized for a 16831 09:38:55,993 --> 09:38:56,761 motion? 16832 09:38:56,761 --> 09:38:57,261 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 16833 09:38:57,261 --> 09:38:57,495 yeah, I have three 16834 09:38:57,495 --> 09:38:58,262 motions. 16835 09:38:58,262 --> 09:38:58,863 You guys can read them? 16836 09:38:58,863 --> 09:38:59,464 >> I have two for you, 16837 09:38:59,464 --> 09:39:00,297 commissioner bermudez. 16838 09:39:00,297 --> 09:39:03,897 Would you like me to go 16839 09:39:13,477 --> 09:39:14,111 ahead and read the otion? 16840 09:39:14,111 --> 09:39:14,978 Commissioner bermudez 16841 09:39:14,978 --> 09:39:15,713 does move to direct the 16842 09:39:15,713 --> 09:39:16,681 county mayor doesn't need 16843 09:39:16,681 --> 09:39:17,482 to include the district 12 16844 09:39:17,482 --> 09:39:18,480 of the membership of the 16845 09:39:18,480 --> 09:39:18,649 new airport policy and 16846 09:39:18,649 --> 09:39:19,517 institutional advisory 16847 09:39:19,517 --> 09:39:20,518 committee reference in the 16848 09:39:20,518 --> 09:39:21,252 mayor's JUNE 20 memorandum 16849 09:39:21,252 --> 09:39:23,252 regarding the feasibility 16850 09:39:30,327 --> 09:39:30,795 of creating a new airport 16851 09:39:30,795 --> 09:39:31,429 capability of 16852 09:39:31,429 --> 09:39:32,329 accommodating general 16853 09:39:32,329 --> 09:39:32,863 passengers and general 16854 09:39:32,863 --> 09:39:33,564 aviation activity. 16855 09:39:33,564 --> 09:39:34,364 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 16856 09:39:34,364 --> 09:39:34,932 90% of the county's 16857 09:39:34,932 --> 09:39:35,634 commercial and 100% of 16858 09:39:35,634 --> 09:39:36,468 it's other activities, but 16859 09:39:36,468 --> 09:39:37,102 90% commercial probably is 16860 09:39:37,102 --> 09:39:38,270 coming out of the airport 16861 09:39:38,270 --> 09:39:39,204 to not have district 12 on 16862 09:39:39,204 --> 09:39:39,871 there when all of the 16863 09:39:39,871 --> 09:39:40,772 businesses are in the area 16864 09:39:40,772 --> 09:39:43,172 are directly impacted by 16865 09:39:45,610 --> 09:39:46,111 the airport. 16866 09:39:46,111 --> 09:39:46,678 Obviously, I think 16867 09:39:46,678 --> 09:39:47,112 district 12 should be 16868 09:39:47,112 --> 09:39:47,613 included. 16869 09:39:47,613 --> 09:39:50,130 There's a lot of 16870 09:39:55,554 --> 09:39:56,188 businesses in district 12. 16871 09:39:56,188 --> 09:39:56,588 Good part connected to the 16872 09:39:56,588 --> 09:39:57,389 airport. 16873 09:39:57,389 --> 09:39:57,756 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 16874 09:39:57,756 --> 09:39:58,690 you move -- 16875 09:39:58,690 --> 09:39:59,224 >> Marleine Bastien: in 16876 09:39:59,224 --> 09:39:59,791 yeah, it's just to be 16877 09:39:59,791 --> 09:40:00,359 included in what's it 16878 09:40:00,359 --> 09:40:02,359 called again? 16879 09:40:03,261 --> 09:40:03,762 Membership of the airport 16880 09:40:03,762 --> 09:40:04,663 advisory committee. 16881 09:40:04,663 --> 09:40:05,331 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 16882 09:40:05,331 --> 09:40:05,765 missed it because I was 16883 09:40:05,765 --> 09:40:06,599 being spoken to. 16884 09:40:06,599 --> 09:40:06,799 What is the thing you want 16885 09:40:06,799 --> 09:40:07,633 to do? 16886 09:40:07,633 --> 09:40:09,633 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 16887 09:40:16,509 --> 09:40:17,900 the airport policy 16888 09:40:17,900 --> 09:40:17,877 committee which is 16889 09:40:17,877 --> 09:40:18,478 referenced in the JUNE 30, 16890 09:40:18,478 --> 09:40:19,378 2026 memorandum which 16891 09:40:19,378 --> 09:40:19,979 regards the feasibility of 16892 09:40:19,979 --> 09:40:22,379 creating a new airport 16893 09:40:27,554 --> 09:40:28,554 capable of of -- general 16894 09:40:28,554 --> 09:40:29,255 aviation activities, the 16895 09:40:29,255 --> 09:40:30,156 district most impacted by 16896 09:40:30,156 --> 09:40:30,823 the airport with all due 16897 09:40:30,823 --> 09:40:31,557 respect to districts six 16898 09:40:31,557 --> 09:40:32,225 which is also impacted 16899 09:40:32,225 --> 09:40:34,625 which is district 12, and 16900 09:40:38,431 --> 09:40:39,990 I think we should have a 16901 09:40:39,990 --> 09:40:39,532 position on that board or 16902 09:40:39,532 --> 09:40:40,533 whatever it is. 16903 09:40:40,533 --> 09:40:41,167 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16904 09:40:41,167 --> 09:40:41,634 this is which board? 16905 09:40:41,634 --> 09:40:42,268 The one I created? 16906 09:40:42,268 --> 09:40:42,669 The cares act or is this 16907 09:40:42,669 --> 09:40:43,736 the other one? 16908 09:40:43,736 --> 09:40:44,637 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 16909 09:40:44,637 --> 09:40:45,272 the new airport policy and 16910 09:40:45,272 --> 09:40:45,806 institutional advisory 16911 09:40:45,806 --> 09:40:46,540 committee. 16912 09:40:46,540 --> 09:40:47,941 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16913 09:40:47,941 --> 09:40:48,508 the that when she no 16914 09:40:48,508 --> 09:40:48,942 longer -- that one is 16915 09:40:48,942 --> 09:40:50,942 dismantled. 16916 09:40:56,183 --> 09:40:57,840 Oh, got that's okay. 16917 09:40:57,840 --> 09:40:57,718 So it's been moved, it's 16918 09:40:57,718 --> 09:40:58,180 been seconded by the vice 16919 09:40:58,180 --> 09:40:58,685 chair. 16920 09:40:58,685 --> 09:41:01,850 >> I'd like to piggyback 16921 09:41:02,288 --> 09:41:02,889 on that and get an 16922 09:41:02,889 --> 09:41:03,890 appointment as well. 16923 09:41:03,890 --> 09:41:04,391 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 16924 09:41:04,391 --> 09:41:05,326 think that you are. 16925 09:41:05,326 --> 09:41:08,926 I think that you are on 16926 09:41:11,265 --> 09:41:11,598 it. 16927 09:41:11,598 --> 09:41:12,332 >> okay. 16928 09:41:12,332 --> 09:41:12,966 >> wait, hold on, hold on, 16929 09:41:12,966 --> 09:41:13,767 because I was being asked 16930 09:41:13,767 --> 09:41:14,434 about the range of 16931 09:41:14,434 --> 09:41:17,434 meetings and stuff in the 16932 09:41:17,471 --> 09:41:17,705 back and. 16933 09:41:17,705 --> 09:41:18,506 Hold on. 16934 09:41:18,506 --> 09:41:19,473 This is my item, right? 16935 09:41:19,473 --> 09:41:21,473 >> no multitasking after 5 16936 09:41:23,844 --> 09:41:24,878 pm. 16937 09:41:24,878 --> 09:41:25,480 This is my directive to 16938 09:41:25,480 --> 09:41:28,480 create, was this my thing 16939 09:41:33,687 --> 09:41:34,288 to create -- it was the 16940 09:41:34,288 --> 09:41:35,257 mayor's, but it was based 16941 09:41:35,257 --> 09:41:38,257 on my directive to explore 16942 09:41:45,320 --> 09:41:45,234 different airport matters, 16943 09:41:45,234 --> 09:41:45,734 right? 16944 09:41:45,734 --> 09:41:46,568 Okay yes, so and then 16945 09:41:46,568 --> 09:41:47,135 right now the way it 16946 09:41:47,135 --> 09:41:47,769 stands, the way we did 16947 09:41:47,769 --> 09:41:48,570 this is that each member 16948 09:41:48,570 --> 09:41:49,370 that has an airport has a 16949 09:41:49,370 --> 09:41:49,604 seat on it? 16950 09:41:49,604 --> 09:41:50,271 What's the current 16951 09:41:50,271 --> 09:41:51,139 structure today versus 16952 09:41:51,139 --> 09:41:53,539 what bermudez is trying 16953 09:42:03,585 --> 09:42:04,352 to add to it? 16954 09:42:04,352 --> 09:42:04,852 >> Danielle Cohen Higgins: 16955 09:42:04,852 --> 09:42:05,721 it did not have 12. 16956 09:42:05,721 --> 09:42:05,921 I don't know if six was on 16957 09:42:05,921 --> 09:42:06,655 there. 16958 09:42:06,655 --> 09:42:07,289 Six MAY be on there, but 16959 09:42:07,289 --> 09:42:08,900 the businesses in district 16960 09:42:08,900 --> 09:42:08,290 12 are deeply impacted by 16961 09:42:08,290 --> 09:42:09,191 this. 16962 09:42:09,191 --> 09:42:11,191 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16963 09:42:44,893 --> 09:42:45,562 okay. 16964 09:42:45,562 --> 09:42:46,290 Nothing is being done this 16965 09:42:46,290 --> 09:42:46,897 very second. 16966 09:42:46,897 --> 09:42:47,597 Can we table that motion 16967 09:42:47,597 --> 09:42:48,640 until it comes up like the 16968 09:42:48,640 --> 09:42:48,698 next meeting? 16969 09:42:48,698 --> 09:42:49,432 Because I think we still 16970 09:42:49,432 --> 09:42:50,330 need to discuss with the 16971 09:42:50,330 --> 09:42:50,933 mayor some details on it. 16972 09:42:50,933 --> 09:42:51,501 Let's just -- it doesn't 16973 09:42:51,501 --> 09:42:51,934 matter -- everyone can 16974 09:42:51,934 --> 09:42:52,268 have an input. 16975 09:42:52,268 --> 09:42:53,360 It's not that. 16976 09:42:53,360 --> 09:42:53,636 I don't want to have what 16977 09:42:53,636 --> 09:42:54,170 gonzalez just did, which 16978 09:42:54,170 --> 09:42:55,400 he is already on it. 16979 09:42:55,400 --> 09:42:55,439 He didn't even know he was 16980 09:42:55,439 --> 09:42:56,373 already on it. 16981 09:42:56,373 --> 09:42:56,807 It can't become like the 16982 09:42:56,807 --> 09:42:57,641 wild wild west here. 16983 09:42:57,641 --> 09:42:58,575 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 16984 09:42:58,575 --> 09:42:58,742 I'm gonna make it easy for 16985 09:42:58,742 --> 09:42:59,509 you. 16986 09:42:59,509 --> 09:43:00,477 I'm willing to wait out of 16987 09:43:00,477 --> 09:43:00,978 respect for you, but right 16988 09:43:00,978 --> 09:43:01,545 now thomistic -- 16989 09:43:01,545 --> 09:43:02,178 commission district 7, 16990 09:43:02,178 --> 09:43:02,979 eight, nine my argument 16991 09:43:02,979 --> 09:43:05,979 would be six and 12 should 16992 09:43:11,488 --> 09:43:12,489 be on there. 16993 09:43:12,489 --> 09:43:13,560 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 16994 09:43:13,560 --> 09:43:13,523 agree that six and 12 16995 09:43:13,523 --> 09:43:14,124 should be on there. 16996 09:43:14,124 --> 09:43:14,658 >> chair, through the 16997 09:43:14,658 --> 09:43:15,292 chair -- 16998 09:43:15,292 --> 09:43:15,793 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 16999 09:43:15,793 --> 09:43:16,661 yes, MADAM Mayor. 17000 09:43:16,661 --> 09:43:17,628 >> Mayor Levine Cava: I'm 17001 09:43:17,628 --> 09:43:18,128 very happy to accommodate 17002 09:43:18,128 --> 09:43:18,429 representation from 17003 09:43:18,429 --> 09:43:19,163 district 12. 17004 09:43:19,163 --> 09:43:19,830 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17005 09:43:19,830 --> 09:43:20,631 and six because six has -- 17006 09:43:20,631 --> 09:43:21,131 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 17007 09:43:21,131 --> 09:43:21,832 sure, six and 12. 17008 09:43:21,832 --> 09:43:22,466 The airport in district 6. 17009 09:43:22,466 --> 09:43:25,466 Sorry, I didn't hear that. 17010 09:43:35,112 --> 09:43:35,780 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17011 09:43:35,780 --> 09:43:36,581 let's bring it back, let's 17012 09:43:36,581 --> 09:43:37,149 do it so we can see with 17013 09:43:37,149 --> 09:43:37,749 the right structure is, 17014 09:43:37,749 --> 09:43:38,583 but it's not a big deal. 17015 09:43:38,583 --> 09:43:39,250 It should be fine. 17016 09:43:39,250 --> 09:43:40,184 You have more, though. 17017 09:43:40,184 --> 09:43:40,885 >> what's the next one? 17018 09:43:40,885 --> 09:43:41,619 >> county mayor designate 17019 09:43:41,619 --> 09:43:42,120 to enter into a grant 17020 09:43:42,120 --> 09:43:42,620 agreement with nbc 17021 09:43:42,620 --> 09:43:43,621 universal or its 17022 09:43:43,621 --> 09:43:46,210 subsidiary or affiliate to 17023 09:43:56,802 --> 09:43:57,436 provide a grant of 17024 09:43:57,436 --> 09:43:58,303 $1,020,000 in legally 17025 09:43:58,303 --> 09:43:58,804 general funds originally 17026 09:43:58,804 --> 09:43:59,304 allocated for film 17027 09:43:59,304 --> 09:43:59,905 incentives for the 17028 09:43:59,905 --> 09:44:00,806 production of miami vice 17029 09:44:00,806 --> 09:44:01,406 85 provided the production 17030 09:44:01,406 --> 09:44:01,940 complies with the grant 17031 09:44:01,940 --> 09:44:02,841 agreement and further 17032 09:44:02,841 --> 09:44:03,842 moves to authorize the 17033 09:44:03,842 --> 09:44:04,342 county mayor designate to 17034 09:44:04,342 --> 09:44:05,344 execute the grant 17035 09:44:05,344 --> 09:44:05,845 agreement and exercise the 17036 09:44:05,845 --> 09:44:06,478 provisions therein 17037 09:44:06,478 --> 09:44:07,346 following approval by the 17038 09:44:07,346 --> 09:44:08,180 county attorney's office 17039 09:44:08,180 --> 09:44:08,480 for form and legal 17040 09:44:08,480 --> 09:44:09,114 sufficiency. 17041 09:44:09,114 --> 09:44:09,781 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17042 09:44:09,781 --> 09:44:10,449 this is miami vice movie, 17043 09:44:10,449 --> 09:44:10,682 okay, don't everybody get 17044 09:44:10,682 --> 09:44:11,416 excited. 17045 09:44:11,416 --> 09:44:11,950 And telemundo nbc would 17046 09:44:11,950 --> 09:44:12,984 bring production. 17047 09:44:12,984 --> 09:44:15,588 I think it's hundreds of 17048 09:44:15,588 --> 09:44:15,955 thousands of 17049 09:44:15,955 --> 09:44:16,489 . 17050 09:44:16,489 --> 09:44:19,458 The impact would be over 17051 09:44:19,458 --> 09:44:20,292 $35 million of of stuff 17052 09:44:20,292 --> 09:44:22,292 to miami-dade county. 17053 09:44:30,469 --> 09:44:31,303 >> second that.Cond that. 17054 09:44:31,303 --> 09:44:32,304 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17055 09:44:32,304 --> 09:44:32,605 moved by commissioner 17056 09:44:32,605 --> 09:44:32,971 bermudez -- 17057 09:44:32,971 --> 09:44:33,806 >> if I MAY? 17058 09:44:33,806 --> 09:44:34,773 >> clarification. 17059 09:44:34,773 --> 09:44:35,275 >> Mayor Levine Cava: 17060 09:44:35,275 --> 09:44:36,420 [Indiscernible] 17061 09:44:36,420 --> 09:44:37,277 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: so 17062 09:44:37,277 --> 09:44:40,277 it's been moved, it's been 17063 09:44:47,887 --> 09:44:48,488 seconded.Nded. 17064 09:44:48,488 --> 09:44:49,422 Commissioner garcia, if 17065 09:44:49,422 --> 09:44:50,230 you're asking to have a 17066 09:44:50,230 --> 09:44:50,557 part in the movie, we're 17067 09:44:50,557 --> 09:44:50,757 gonna have to discuss 17068 09:44:50,757 --> 09:44:51,491 that. 17069 09:44:51,491 --> 09:44:52,425 >> it MAY be a part in the 17070 09:44:52,425 --> 09:44:52,925 movie where I have to kill 17071 09:44:52,925 --> 09:44:53,626 someone after. 17072 09:44:53,626 --> 09:44:54,427 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17073 09:44:54,427 --> 09:44:54,660 you are the filmmaker, 17074 09:44:54,660 --> 09:44:55,161 though. 17075 09:44:55,161 --> 09:44:55,929 You are the film guy. 17076 09:44:55,929 --> 09:44:56,496 >> and this is what 17077 09:44:56,496 --> 09:44:58,896 happens when people don't 17078 09:45:04,471 --> 09:45:04,971 have 17079 09:45:04,971 --> 09:45:05,472 >> I'm starving. 17080 09:45:05,472 --> 09:45:06,106 I'm starving here. 17081 09:45:06,106 --> 09:45:06,640 MR. CHAIRMAN, this is part 17082 09:45:06,640 --> 09:45:07,474 of the film incentive 17083 09:45:07,474 --> 09:45:08,108 program that we've been 17084 09:45:08,108 --> 09:45:08,475 working -- that we worked 17085 09:45:08,475 --> 09:45:09,760 on. 17086 09:45:09,760 --> 09:45:09,976 Unfortunately, last year 17087 09:45:09,976 --> 09:45:13,800 we voted to scale back the 17088 09:45:13,800 --> 09:45:13,947 incentives and right now I 17089 09:45:13,947 --> 09:45:14,548 don't think this is an 17090 09:45:14,548 --> 09:45:15,115 appropriate time to move 17091 09:45:15,115 --> 09:45:15,950 forward with this and 17092 09:45:15,950 --> 09:45:16,616 clarify exactly how this 17093 09:45:16,616 --> 09:45:17,251 incentive oral work, so 17094 09:45:17,251 --> 09:45:17,985 I'm going to ask 17095 09:45:17,985 --> 09:45:19,985 commissioner bermudez if 17096 09:45:33,634 --> 09:45:34,501 he could withdraw it. 17097 09:45:34,501 --> 09:45:35,350 I've already spoken to him 17098 09:45:35,350 --> 09:45:35,736 and I think we could 17099 09:45:35,736 --> 09:45:36,504 sunshine it together, you 17100 09:45:36,504 --> 09:45:37,205 could get the part in the 17101 09:45:37,205 --> 09:45:38,390 movie because obviously 17102 09:45:38,390 --> 09:45:38,673 you are movie star looks 17103 09:45:38,673 --> 09:45:39,240 could get you a little 17104 09:45:39,240 --> 09:45:40,410 further, but the reality 17105 09:45:40,410 --> 09:45:40,641 is we need to do it 17106 09:45:40,641 --> 09:45:41,542 quickly because I don't 17107 09:45:41,542 --> 09:45:42,760 want to MISS The 17108 09:45:42,760 --> 09:45:44,476 opportunity to bring this 17109 09:45:47,182 --> 09:45:47,415 much work to miami-dade 17110 09:45:47,415 --> 09:45:48,183 county. 17111 09:45:48,183 --> 09:45:48,483 >> you won't MISS The 17112 09:45:48,483 --> 09:45:49,184 opportunity. 17113 09:45:49,184 --> 09:45:49,784 We've been having some 17114 09:45:49,784 --> 09:45:50,685 conversations and we'll 17115 09:45:50,685 --> 09:45:50,885 get this right back on 17116 09:45:50,885 --> 09:45:52,885 track. 17117 09:45:59,594 --> 09:46:00,262 >> I'm fine doing this and 17118 09:46:00,262 --> 09:46:01,162 getting it all together. 17119 09:46:01,162 --> 09:46:01,730 >> to me, my go to guy for 17120 09:46:01,730 --> 09:46:02,330 film is senator garcia, 17121 09:46:02,330 --> 09:46:03,198 right, as far as he has 17122 09:46:03,198 --> 09:46:06,198 made himself the film king 17123 09:46:15,277 --> 09:46:16,450 and actually advocated to 17124 09:46:16,450 --> 09:46:16,645 even move this under 17125 09:46:16,645 --> 09:46:17,546 office of the chair. 17126 09:46:17,546 --> 09:46:18,147 It was moved over without 17127 09:46:18,147 --> 09:46:18,780 proper funding, but it's 17128 09:46:18,780 --> 09:46:19,248 here and now we're getting 17129 09:46:19,248 --> 09:46:20,490 it, but I would. 17130 09:46:20,490 --> 09:46:20,650 And I see that because 17131 09:46:20,650 --> 09:46:20,849 they reach out to me as 17132 09:46:20,849 --> 09:46:22,849 well. 17133 09:46:35,630 --> 09:46:35,565 I'm sure they reached out 17134 09:46:35,565 --> 09:46:36,199 both of you. 17135 09:46:36,199 --> 09:46:37,660 That's why you're making 17136 09:46:37,660 --> 09:46:37,400 the motion and having 17137 09:46:37,400 --> 09:46:38,670 communication. 17138 09:46:38,670 --> 09:46:38,634 If someone wants to 17139 09:46:38,634 --> 09:46:39,268 approach the well, if 17140 09:46:39,268 --> 09:46:40,103 there's anyone here from 17141 09:46:40,103 --> 09:46:40,403 that's requesting this 17142 09:46:40,403 --> 09:46:41,136 funding -- 17143 09:46:41,136 --> 09:46:41,604 >> I don't think they are 17144 09:46:41,604 --> 09:46:42,171 here today. 17145 09:46:42,171 --> 09:46:42,771 MR. Chair, just to be 17146 09:46:42,771 --> 09:46:43,305 clear, I'm saying it 17147 09:46:43,305 --> 09:46:44,106 probably came to me. 17148 09:46:44,106 --> 09:46:44,640 Not because I have the 17149 09:46:44,640 --> 09:46:45,107 movie star looks of 17150 09:46:45,107 --> 09:46:45,909 senator garcia. 17151 09:46:45,909 --> 09:46:46,610 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: if 17152 09:46:46,610 --> 09:46:49,610 they are not here, they 17153 09:47:01,691 --> 09:47:02,392 are not here. 17154 09:47:02,392 --> 09:47:03,193 If you're both agreeing to 17155 09:47:03,193 --> 09:47:03,793 that, and I imagine you 17156 09:47:03,793 --> 09:47:03,993 know something I don't 17157 09:47:03,993 --> 09:47:04,860 know. 17158 09:47:04,860 --> 09:47:05,195 It's not like a timeframe 17159 09:47:05,195 --> 09:47:05,862 issue. 17160 09:47:05,862 --> 09:47:06,696 There's not a timeline 17161 09:47:06,696 --> 09:47:09,696 they were going to go 17162 09:47:33,757 --> 09:47:34,691 somewhere else. 17163 09:47:34,691 --> 09:47:35,250 It's not necessarily the 17164 09:47:35,250 --> 09:47:35,693 next meeting. 17165 09:47:35,693 --> 09:47:38,693 You guys can make the 17166 09:47:47,872 --> 09:47:48,806 motion at any time. 17167 09:47:48,806 --> 09:47:49,730 Have a little sunshine 17168 09:47:49,730 --> 09:47:49,807 about it. 17169 09:47:49,807 --> 09:47:50,408 >> we can sunshine it. 17170 09:47:50,408 --> 09:47:50,908 The next one I'll read. 17171 09:47:50,908 --> 09:47:51,642 >> MR. Chair? 17172 09:47:51,642 --> 09:47:52,343 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 17173 09:47:52,343 --> 09:47:52,976 I would move that the 17174 09:47:52,976 --> 09:47:53,811 board urged the united 17175 09:47:53,811 --> 09:47:54,578 states congress and donald 17176 09:47:54,578 --> 09:47:55,314 j trump to reinstate tps 17177 09:47:55,314 --> 09:47:57,314 for nationals of 17178 09:48:01,452 --> 09:48:02,353 venezuela, haiti, 17179 09:48:02,353 --> 09:48:02,854 honduras, and any other 17180 09:48:02,854 --> 09:48:03,454 caribbean or latin 17181 09:48:03,454 --> 09:48:04,550 american country from 17182 09:48:04,550 --> 09:48:04,822 which tps status was 17183 09:48:04,822 --> 09:48:07,222 revoked and direct the 17184 09:48:10,629 --> 09:48:11,563 court -- speaker of the us 17185 09:48:11,563 --> 09:48:12,197 house of representatives, 17186 09:48:12,197 --> 09:48:12,764 the PRESIDENT Pro tem of 17187 09:48:12,764 --> 09:48:13,565 the U.S. Senate and 17188 09:48:13,565 --> 09:48:14,265 members of the florida 17189 09:48:14,265 --> 09:48:16,265 congressional delegation 17190 09:48:20,472 --> 09:48:21,106 and direct the county 17191 09:48:21,106 --> 09:48:22,700 lobbyist to advocate for 17192 09:48:22,700 --> 09:48:22,374 the foregoing and direct 17193 09:48:22,374 --> 09:48:23,800 office of 17194 09:48:23,800 --> 09:48:23,842 intergovernmental affairs 17195 09:48:23,842 --> 09:48:24,409 to amend 2026 federal 17196 09:48:24,409 --> 09:48:25,143 legislative package to 17197 09:48:25,143 --> 09:48:25,678 include this item. 17198 09:48:25,678 --> 09:48:28,678 It's just in urging, but 17199 09:48:30,150 --> 09:48:30,816 listen, commissioner 17200 09:48:30,816 --> 09:48:31,830 cohen higgins said 17201 09:48:31,830 --> 09:48:31,817 correctly. 17202 09:48:31,817 --> 09:48:32,510 We are a minority majority 17203 09:48:32,510 --> 09:48:34,510 county. 17204 09:48:38,223 --> 09:48:39,125 Right now, in the 17205 09:48:39,125 --> 09:48:39,792 venezuelan community, the 17206 09:48:39,792 --> 09:48:40,626 haitian community is going 17207 09:48:40,626 --> 09:48:42,628 through one of the most 17208 09:48:42,628 --> 09:48:43,295 difficult, difficult 17209 09:48:43,295 --> 09:48:43,862 situation when it comes to 17210 09:48:43,862 --> 09:48:46,862 being able to work here. 17211 09:48:49,435 --> 09:48:50,102 I know the mayor and 17212 09:48:50,102 --> 09:48:50,937 commissioner bastien 17213 09:48:50,937 --> 09:48:51,637 will be having a 17214 09:48:51,637 --> 09:48:52,438 conversation because so 17215 09:48:52,438 --> 09:48:52,638 many people are employed 17216 09:48:52,638 --> 09:48:53,172 here. 17217 09:48:53,172 --> 09:48:56,772 I think if it moves this 17218 09:48:58,111 --> 09:49:01,111 commission to speak out in 17219 09:49:12,859 --> 09:49:13,326 no more than it's at least 17220 09:49:13,326 --> 09:49:13,960 important to us. 17221 09:49:13,960 --> 09:49:14,828 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17222 09:49:14,828 --> 09:49:15,763 okay, there's a motion and 17223 09:49:15,763 --> 09:49:15,996 second by commissioner 17224 09:49:15,996 --> 09:49:16,863 gilbert. 17225 09:49:16,863 --> 09:49:17,498 If there's cosponsor, add 17226 09:49:17,498 --> 09:49:17,864 me as cosponsor on that as 17227 09:49:17,864 --> 09:49:18,532 well. 17228 09:49:18,532 --> 09:49:18,932 Lopez as well, orbis as 17229 09:49:18,932 --> 09:49:19,466 well, tps. 17230 09:49:19,466 --> 09:49:20,670 Vice chair, dais. 17231 09:49:20,670 --> 09:49:21,134 Let's wrap it up, guys. 17232 09:49:21,134 --> 09:49:24,134 The whole what is it. 17233 09:49:26,400 --> 09:49:26,907 Give me a good model. 17234 09:49:26,907 --> 09:49:30,507 I don't want to mess up 17235 09:49:33,146 --> 09:49:33,580 the word again, senator. 17236 09:49:33,580 --> 09:49:34,114 The whole -- 17237 09:49:34,114 --> 09:49:34,514 >> that's what I was 17238 09:49:34,514 --> 09:49:35,283 looking for. 17239 09:49:35,283 --> 09:49:35,683 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17240 09:49:35,683 --> 09:49:36,250 you see? 17241 09:49:36,250 --> 09:49:36,851 Thank you, orbis. 17242 09:49:36,851 --> 09:49:37,618 Someone had lunch around 17243 09:49:37,618 --> 09:49:39,618 here. 17244 09:49:40,420 --> 09:49:40,788 >> we packed our lunch, 17245 09:49:40,788 --> 09:49:42,788 people. 17246 09:49:43,657 --> 09:49:44,291 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17247 09:49:44,291 --> 09:49:44,691 all in favor say aye five 17248 09:49:44,691 --> 09:49:46,691 by saying aye. 17249 09:49:54,435 --> 09:49:55,370 you got one. 17250 09:49:55,370 --> 09:49:55,971 Bermudez, you got one. 17251 09:49:55,971 --> 09:49:56,538 You're not batting very 17252 09:49:56,538 --> 09:49:57,405 well, but you got one. 17253 09:49:57,405 --> 09:49:58,730 >> Juan Carlos Bermudez: 17254 09:49:58,730 --> 09:49:58,906 I'm very honored to have a 17255 09:49:58,906 --> 09:50:00,906 sunshine with senator 17256 09:50:04,812 --> 09:50:05,314 garcia. 17257 09:50:05,314 --> 09:50:05,814 It's going to be 17258 09:50:05,814 --> 09:50:06,448 wonderful. 17259 09:50:06,448 --> 09:50:06,715 District 12 and 13 working 17260 09:50:06,715 --> 09:50:07,315 together. 17261 09:50:07,315 --> 09:50:08,830 > MR. Chair? 17262 09:50:08,830 --> 09:50:08,817 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: do 17263 09:50:08,817 --> 09:50:09,150 we have any motions or 17264 09:50:09,150 --> 09:50:09,951 appointments? 17265 09:50:09,951 --> 09:50:10,852 >> I have a motion. 17266 09:50:10,852 --> 09:50:11,353 I will have the accounting 17267 09:50:11,353 --> 09:50:13,353 attorneys actually. 17268 09:50:16,758 --> 09:50:17,359 >> commissioner -- 17269 09:50:17,359 --> 09:50:18,193 relating to the amendment 17270 09:50:18,193 --> 09:50:20,593 to the easement agreement 17271 09:50:23,365 --> 09:50:23,999 between miami-dade county 17272 09:50:23,999 --> 09:50:24,566 and the lion miami terrace 17273 09:50:24,566 --> 09:50:25,368 llc for a portion of 17274 09:50:25,368 --> 09:50:26,200 loveland trail adjacent to 17275 09:50:26,200 --> 09:50:28,200 southwest eighth street, 17276 09:50:45,388 --> 09:50:45,922 the easement agreement, to 17277 09:50:45,922 --> 09:50:46,822 authorize county mayor 17278 09:50:46,822 --> 09:50:47,390 mayor designate an 17279 09:50:47,390 --> 09:50:47,991 ordination revise the 17280 09:50:47,991 --> 09:50:48,524 easement agreement 17281 09:50:48,524 --> 09:50:49,240 regarding the county 17282 09:50:49,240 --> 09:50:49,492 default and rights 17283 09:50:49,492 --> 09:50:50,590 provided that the 17284 09:50:50,590 --> 09:50:50,826 provisions do not result 17285 09:50:50,826 --> 09:50:51,460 in any additional 17286 09:50:51,460 --> 09:50:52,395 obligations to the county. 17287 09:50:52,395 --> 09:50:52,828 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: I 17288 09:50:52,828 --> 09:50:53,829 like that. 17289 09:50:53,829 --> 09:50:54,330 Moved by commissioner 17290 09:50:54,330 --> 09:50:54,830 orbis, seconded by 17291 09:50:54,830 --> 09:50:54,930 commissioner lopez. 17292 09:50:54,930 --> 09:50:55,865 Ll 17293 09:50:55,865 --> 09:50:57,233 in favor signify by saying 17294 09:50:57,233 --> 09:50:57,934 aye. 17295 09:50:57,934 --> 09:50:58,768 All opposed, nay. Show 17296 09:50:58,768 --> 09:50:59,468 the motion carries. 17297 09:50:59,468 --> 09:51:00,270 Commissioner regalado, 17298 09:51:00,270 --> 09:51:00,603 you have any motions or 17299 09:51:00,603 --> 09:51:01,337 appointments? 17300 09:51:01,337 --> 09:51:01,971 >> Raquel Regalado: for 17301 09:51:01,971 --> 09:51:02,872 the sunshine meeting, 17302 09:51:02,872 --> 09:51:03,439 grand theft auto the next 17303 09:51:03,439 --> 09:51:05,342 one is going to be in 17304 09:51:05,342 --> 09:51:06,243 miami, through that -- 17305 09:51:06,243 --> 09:51:06,843 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17306 09:51:06,843 --> 09:51:07,711 that's a real life movie. 17307 09:51:07,711 --> 09:51:08,378 >> Raquel Regalado: next 17308 09:51:08,378 --> 09:51:11,378 grand theft auto they are 17309 09:51:17,821 --> 09:51:18,121 picking sitess in miami 17310 09:51:18,121 --> 09:51:18,689 county. 17311 09:51:18,689 --> 09:51:19,122 Grand theft auto, pay 17312 09:51:19,122 --> 09:51:19,856 attention. 17313 09:51:19,856 --> 09:51:20,657 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17314 09:51:20,657 --> 09:51:21,291 what's this whole thing 17315 09:51:21,291 --> 09:51:22,225 people are doing like 17316 09:51:22,225 --> 09:51:22,725 netflix documentaries. 17317 09:51:22,725 --> 09:51:22,993 What's this whole 17318 09:51:22,993 --> 09:51:23,326 movement? 17319 09:51:23,326 --> 09:51:24,194 It's so cute. 17320 09:51:24,194 --> 09:51:27,194 Was yours about, like what 17321 09:51:29,900 --> 09:51:30,100 was the whole -- the yard 17322 09:51:30,100 --> 09:51:30,867 signs? 17323 09:51:30,867 --> 09:51:31,535 >> it's like when you were 17324 09:51:31,535 --> 09:51:32,436 issuing the little babies. 17325 09:51:32,436 --> 09:51:33,360 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17326 09:51:33,360 --> 09:51:33,903 just waiting to see my 17327 09:51:33,903 --> 09:51:34,904 documentary when they are 17328 09:51:34,904 --> 09:51:35,573 stealing my signs, so 17329 09:51:35,573 --> 09:51:36,730 yeah. 17330 09:51:36,730 --> 09:51:37,750 All right. 17331 09:51:37,750 --> 09:51:38,750 Commissioner gonzalez, any 17332 09:51:38,750 --> 09:51:38,576 motions or appointments? 17333 09:51:38,576 --> 09:51:40,576 Commissioner cohen 17334 09:51:47,452 --> 09:51:48,319 higgins? Steinberg? 17335 09:51:48,319 --> 09:51:49,253 >> Micky Steinberg: no, I 17336 09:51:49,253 --> 09:51:49,820 will say commissioner 17337 09:51:49,820 --> 09:51:50,488 bermudez, one year ago 17338 09:51:50,488 --> 09:51:51,422 tomorrow, we are so happy 17339 09:51:51,422 --> 09:51:51,989 you are with us and we do 17340 09:51:51,989 --> 09:51:54,989 like you, believe it or 17341 09:52:08,600 --> 09:52:08,407 not. 17342 09:52:08,407 --> 09:52:09,400 [Laughter] 17343 09:52:09,400 --> 09:52:09,707 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17344 09:52:09,707 --> 09:52:10,475 what's the one year 17345 09:52:10,475 --> 09:52:11,209 anniversary tomorrow? 17346 09:52:11,209 --> 09:52:11,809 >> Micky Steinberg: it 17347 09:52:11,809 --> 09:52:12,644 was one year ago tomorrow 17348 09:52:12,644 --> 09:52:12,844 that he had his health 17349 09:52:12,844 --> 09:52:13,678 issue. 17350 09:52:13,678 --> 09:52:14,479 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17351 09:52:14,479 --> 09:52:15,280 it's funny you bring that 17352 09:52:15,280 --> 09:52:15,947 up, and we are all blessed 17353 09:52:15,947 --> 09:52:16,481 that you're here with us, 17354 09:52:16,481 --> 09:52:17,282 you really came back a 17355 09:52:17,282 --> 09:52:17,949 changed man and I love it. 17356 09:52:17,949 --> 09:52:18,784 You are the funniest 17357 09:52:18,784 --> 09:52:19,510 member of this dais and I 17358 09:52:19,510 --> 09:52:19,851 mean that. 17359 09:52:19,851 --> 09:52:20,419 You give zero cares, you 17360 09:52:20,419 --> 09:52:21,190 give zero cares and you 17361 09:52:21,190 --> 09:52:21,486 just say what's on your 17362 09:52:21,486 --> 09:52:22,721 mind and I love it. 17363 09:52:22,721 --> 09:52:23,187 I couldn't eat it up a 17364 09:52:23,187 --> 09:52:23,855 more. 17365 09:52:23,855 --> 09:52:24,422 Commissioner gilbert, 17366 09:52:24,422 --> 09:52:25,290 motions or appointments? 17367 09:52:25,290 --> 09:52:27,690 >> Oliver Gilbert: I have 17368 09:52:36,567 --> 09:52:37,234 a motion and an 17369 09:52:37,234 --> 09:52:38,350 appointment if they can go 17370 09:52:38,350 --> 09:52:38,235 ahead and read them from 17371 09:52:38,235 --> 09:52:39,360 eight. 17372 09:52:39,360 --> 09:52:40,103 >> with respect to the 17373 09:52:40,103 --> 09:52:40,737 following developers that 17374 09:52:40,737 --> 09:52:41,605 have been conveyed certain 17375 09:52:41,605 --> 09:52:42,606 properties through the 17376 09:52:42,606 --> 09:52:43,106 miami-dade initiative 17377 09:52:43,106 --> 09:52:44,106 program, commissioner 17378 09:52:44,106 --> 09:52:44,608 gilbert moves consistent 17379 09:52:44,608 --> 09:52:45,342 with ordinance 21-80 to 17380 09:52:45,342 --> 09:52:46,109 increase the maximum sales 17381 09:52:46,109 --> 09:52:46,709 price from the 205,000 to 17382 09:52:46,709 --> 09:52:49,780 the current maximum sales 17383 09:52:49,780 --> 09:52:50,120 price pursuant to 17384 09:52:50,120 --> 09:52:50,513 ordinance 21-80 through in 17385 09:52:50,513 --> 09:52:51,214 accordance with the 17386 09:52:51,214 --> 09:52:51,781 housing program further 17387 09:52:51,781 --> 09:52:52,515 listed in the motion that 17388 09:52:52,515 --> 09:52:54,915 was distributed by the 17389 09:52:55,451 --> 09:52:56,180 clerk it is on file -- and 17390 09:52:56,180 --> 09:52:56,819 reflects the portfolios 17391 09:52:56,819 --> 09:52:59,219 for 34 ways foundation and 17392 09:52:59,588 --> 09:53:00,890 11 folios for palmetto 17393 09:53:00,890 --> 09:53:02,890 homes. 17394 09:53:03,358 --> 09:53:05,358 Commissioner gilbert moves 17395 09:53:08,620 --> 09:53:08,897 pursuant to section 125.11 17396 09:53:08,897 --> 09:53:09,597 florida statutes the 17397 09:53:09,597 --> 09:53:11,597 developer identified 17398 09:53:16,337 --> 09:53:16,837 herein for the properties 17399 09:53:16,837 --> 09:53:17,471 identified herein 17400 09:53:17,471 --> 09:53:18,339 following approval by the 17401 09:53:18,339 --> 09:53:19,340 county attorney's office 17402 09:53:19,340 --> 09:53:20,340 in order to effectuate the 17403 09:53:20,340 --> 09:53:21,800 sales price increase to 17404 09:53:21,800 --> 09:53:22,242 authorize the -- exercise 17405 09:53:22,242 --> 09:53:22,776 any and all rights set 17406 09:53:22,776 --> 09:53:25,176 forth in the deeds 17407 09:53:36,890 --> 09:53:36,656 including but not limited 17408 09:53:36,656 --> 09:53:37,190 to after conducting all 17409 09:53:37,190 --> 09:53:37,823 due diligence title 17410 09:53:37,823 --> 09:53:38,724 searches and environments 17411 09:53:38,724 --> 09:53:39,325 will review and three 17412 09:53:39,325 --> 09:53:40,326 direct the county mayor 17413 09:53:40,326 --> 09:53:40,926 mayor designate to provide 17414 09:53:40,926 --> 09:53:41,727 copies of the amended 17415 09:53:41,727 --> 09:53:42,361 deeds to the property 17416 09:53:42,361 --> 09:53:42,995 appraiser record amended 17417 09:53:42,995 --> 09:53:43,796 deeds and provide copies 17418 09:53:43,796 --> 09:53:44,329 of amended deeds to the 17419 09:53:44,329 --> 09:53:45,263 clerk of the board. 17420 09:53:45,263 --> 09:53:47,263 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17421 09:53:47,433 --> 09:53:48,233 all right, we have a 17422 09:53:48,233 --> 09:53:48,800 motion by commissioner 17423 09:53:48,800 --> 09:53:49,434 gilbert, a second by 17424 09:53:49,434 --> 09:53:50,235 commissioner bermudez. 17425 09:53:50,235 --> 09:53:50,535 All in favor signify by 17426 09:53:50,535 --> 09:53:51,603 saying aye. 17427 09:53:51,603 --> 09:53:52,204 All opposed, nay. 17428 09:53:52,204 --> 09:53:54,604 >> yes, I'd like to 17429 09:54:00,478 --> 09:54:00,978 appoint john williams to 17430 09:54:00,978 --> 09:54:01,546 the commission on 17431 09:54:01,546 --> 09:54:02,446 disability issues. 17432 09:54:02,446 --> 09:54:02,980 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17433 09:54:02,980 --> 09:54:03,914 MR. Williams to the 17434 09:54:03,914 --> 09:54:04,415 disability commission. 17435 09:54:04,415 --> 09:54:04,682 Seconded by senator 17436 09:54:04,682 --> 09:54:05,382 garcia. 17437 09:54:05,382 --> 09:54:05,749 All in favor signify by 17438 09:54:05,749 --> 09:54:07,617 saying aye. 17439 09:54:07,617 --> 09:54:09,617 All opposed, nay. 17440 09:54:14,157 --> 09:54:14,791 And senator -- hold on. 17441 09:54:14,791 --> 09:54:15,625 Just one statement. 17442 09:54:15,625 --> 09:54:18,625 And I'm kind of, like, 17443 09:54:22,865 --> 09:54:23,499 bunning my business to 17444 09:54:23,499 --> 09:54:24,367 something that's not our 17445 09:54:24,367 --> 09:54:24,634 business but sort of my 17446 09:54:24,634 --> 09:54:25,368 business. 17447 09:54:25,368 --> 09:54:26,200 We have a cra meeting that 17448 09:54:26,200 --> 09:54:28,402 starts in five minutes. 17449 09:54:34,776 --> 09:54:35,343 none of us are going make 17450 09:54:35,343 --> 09:54:36,211 it in five minutes. 17451 09:54:36,211 --> 09:54:36,878 I don't think it's fair to 17452 09:54:36,878 --> 09:54:37,679 have residents waiting for 17453 09:54:37,679 --> 09:54:38,179 us 40 minutes, 50 minutes 17454 09:54:38,179 --> 09:54:38,747 to get down south. 17455 09:54:38,747 --> 09:54:39,447 If the two cochairs -- 17456 09:54:39,447 --> 09:54:39,814 it's more probably close 17457 09:54:39,814 --> 09:54:40,682 to an hour. 17458 09:54:40,682 --> 09:54:41,349 I don't know if this 17459 09:54:41,349 --> 09:54:42,183 meeting can be canceled. 17460 09:54:42,183 --> 09:54:42,383 It's a whole different 17461 09:54:42,383 --> 09:54:42,917 body. 17462 09:54:42,917 --> 09:54:45,317 Of course the cochairs, 17463 09:54:49,490 --> 09:54:50,124 vice chair Mcghee and 17464 09:54:50,124 --> 09:54:50,991 cochair cohen higgins. 17465 09:54:50,991 --> 09:54:51,992 Isn't something we can 17466 09:54:51,992 --> 09:54:52,293 cancel from this dais or 17467 09:54:52,293 --> 09:54:54,293 reschedule? 17468 09:54:55,895 --> 09:54:56,563 I'm using the wrong, 17469 09:54:56,563 --> 09:54:58,563 surprised senator garcia 17470 09:55:05,271 --> 09:55:05,571 did not correct my 17471 09:55:05,571 --> 09:55:06,272 terminology. 17472 09:55:06,272 --> 09:55:06,972 >> it's just one. 17473 09:55:06,972 --> 09:55:07,773 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17474 09:55:07,773 --> 09:55:08,341 but I don't think we can 17475 09:55:08,341 --> 09:55:08,974 do it as this body, but 17476 09:55:08,974 --> 09:55:09,909 the cochairs are present. 17477 09:55:09,909 --> 09:55:10,843 By the way, I'm butting 17478 09:55:10,843 --> 09:55:11,444 into something that's not 17479 09:55:11,444 --> 09:55:11,844 my -- but we're just not 17480 09:55:11,844 --> 09:55:13,844 gonna make it. 17481 09:55:22,954 --> 09:55:23,588 We're ot gonna start a 17482 09:55:23,588 --> 09:55:24,522 meeting at 7-7:30 P.M. To 17483 09:55:24,522 --> 09:55:25,560 the attorneys, you want to 17484 09:55:25,560 --> 09:55:25,456 respond at least to my 17485 09:55:25,456 --> 09:55:26,124 concerns? 17486 09:55:26,124 --> 09:55:26,958 >> MR. Chair, if you know 17487 09:55:26,958 --> 09:55:28,292 you won't have a quorum at 17488 09:55:28,292 --> 09:55:28,926 the meeting and quorum 17489 09:55:28,926 --> 09:55:31,326 requirement for that, I 17490 09:55:45,175 --> 09:55:46,420 believe it's five members. 17491 09:55:46,420 --> 09:55:46,309 Then the meeting can be 17492 09:55:46,309 --> 09:55:47,110 canceled. 17493 09:55:47,110 --> 09:55:47,310 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17494 09:55:47,310 --> 09:55:47,577 okay. 17495 09:55:47,577 --> 09:55:48,178 All right. 17496 09:55:48,178 --> 09:55:48,811 Again, I don't think 17497 09:55:48,811 --> 09:55:49,780 anybody is going to make 17498 09:55:49,780 --> 09:55:49,679 it. 17499 09:55:49,679 --> 09:55:50,280 it's an hour and and a 17500 09:55:50,280 --> 09:55:50,847 half if you just check 17501 09:55:50,847 --> 09:55:51,581 mapquest or whatever the 17502 09:55:51,581 --> 09:55:51,781 new map system is these 17503 09:55:51,781 --> 09:55:52,348 days. 17504 09:55:52,348 --> 09:55:53,820 >> it's called google. 17505 09:55:53,820 --> 09:55:53,816 You should have lunch. 17506 09:55:53,816 --> 09:55:54,830 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17507 09:55:54,830 --> 09:55:54,717 waze. 17508 09:55:54,717 --> 09:55:55,585 Vice chair, do you want to 17509 09:55:55,585 --> 09:55:55,818 opine since it's your 17510 09:55:55,818 --> 09:55:56,451 meeting? 17511 09:55:56,451 --> 09:55:57,860 >> Vice CHAIRMAN McGhee: 17512 09:55:57,860 --> 09:55:57,853 I don't want to 17513 09:55:57,853 --> 09:55:59,853 inconvenience anyone here, 17514 09:56:01,489 --> 09:56:02,124 but at the same time I do 17515 09:56:02,124 --> 09:56:02,991 know there are -- at the 17516 09:56:02,991 --> 09:56:03,892 same time, I do know there 17517 09:56:03,892 --> 09:56:06,261 are some individuals that 17518 09:56:06,261 --> 09:56:06,964 are there. 17519 09:56:06,964 --> 09:56:07,796 I guess my question is to 17520 09:56:07,796 --> 09:56:08,430 the county attorney to the 17521 09:56:08,430 --> 09:56:10,830 administration, do we have 17522 09:56:13,334 --> 09:56:14,202 to suspend this meeting 17523 09:56:14,202 --> 09:56:14,802 and then bring forth the 17524 09:56:14,802 --> 09:56:17,802 cre meeting right now in 17525 09:56:18,205 --> 09:56:20,205 order to reschedule? 17526 09:56:22,676 --> 09:56:23,143 When is the next tre 17527 09:56:23,143 --> 09:56:25,143 meeting scheduled? 17528 09:56:39,425 --> 09:56:40,125 >> it's up to the cochairs 17529 09:56:40,125 --> 09:56:40,426 of the cra to 17530 09:56:40,426 --> 09:56:41,227 reschedule. 17531 09:56:41,227 --> 09:56:41,761 >> but when is the next 17532 09:56:41,761 --> 09:56:42,628 rescheduled meeting? 17533 09:56:42,628 --> 09:56:42,828 >> we are not aware of 17534 09:56:42,828 --> 09:56:43,696 that. 17535 09:56:43,696 --> 09:56:44,396 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17536 09:56:44,396 --> 09:56:44,863 all right, so we're not -- 17537 09:56:44,863 --> 09:56:45,664 okay, sounds good. 17538 09:56:45,664 --> 09:56:47,499 With that, commissioner 17539 09:56:47,499 --> 09:56:48,100 lopez, any appointments? 17540 09:56:48,100 --> 09:56:48,534 MR. Garcia, you are 17541 09:56:48,534 --> 09:56:49,134 recognized. 17542 09:56:49,134 --> 09:56:50,350 >> monica brown for the 17543 09:56:50,350 --> 09:56:52,350 black affairs advisory 17544 09:56:53,438 --> 09:56:54,139 board. 17545 09:56:54,139 --> 09:56:57,139 Bruce oros to the film 17546 09:57:02,680 --> 09:57:03,548 and entertainment board, 17547 09:57:03,548 --> 09:57:04,181 christine lamera to the 17548 09:57:04,181 --> 09:57:04,782 community citizens board, 17549 09:57:04,782 --> 09:57:08,382 and I do have a motion 17550 09:57:13,900 --> 09:57:14,570 that I would like to read. 17551 09:57:14,570 --> 09:57:14,791 >> senator garcia moves to 17552 09:57:14,791 --> 09:57:15,592 authorize the county mayor 17553 09:57:15,592 --> 09:57:16,593 county mayor's designee to 17554 09:57:16,593 --> 09:57:17,360 negotiate and execute an 17555 09:57:17,360 --> 09:57:18,940 interlocal agreement with 17556 09:57:18,940 --> 09:57:20,940 the children's trust 17557 09:57:25,767 --> 09:57:26,335 filing to provide real 17558 09:57:26,335 --> 09:57:27,360 estate services to the 17559 09:57:27,360 --> 09:57:27,803 trust in connection with 17560 09:57:27,803 --> 09:57:28,304 the trust potential 17561 09:57:28,304 --> 09:57:29,500 acquisition of real 17562 09:57:29,500 --> 09:57:29,438 property and furtherance 17563 09:57:29,438 --> 09:57:30,339 of its mission. 17564 09:57:30,339 --> 09:57:30,806 Services shall include but 17565 09:57:30,806 --> 09:57:31,307 not be limited to 17566 09:57:31,307 --> 09:57:33,307 performing services 17567 09:57:35,410 --> 09:57:36,444 necessary to evaluate the 17568 09:57:36,444 --> 09:57:37,110 property, negotiating a 17569 09:57:37,110 --> 09:57:37,946 purchase agreement and 17570 09:57:37,946 --> 09:57:38,480 shall be provided at the 17571 09:57:38,480 --> 09:57:39,470 same or similarly 17572 09:57:39,470 --> 09:57:39,614 negotiated rate or fee 17573 09:57:39,614 --> 09:57:40,515 schedule charged 17574 09:57:40,515 --> 09:57:41,820 accounting administered of 17575 09:57:41,820 --> 09:57:41,583 departments and/or the 17576 09:57:41,583 --> 09:57:42,550 public health trust. 17577 09:57:42,550 --> 09:57:42,817 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17578 09:57:42,817 --> 09:57:43,751 all right. 17579 09:57:43,751 --> 09:57:44,752 It's been moved, seconded 17580 09:57:44,752 --> 09:57:45,720 by commissioner regalado. 17581 09:57:45,720 --> 09:57:46,654 >> Raquel Regalado: sure. 17582 09:57:46,654 --> 09:57:48,654 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17583 09:57:50,924 --> 09:57:51,292 all in favor signify by 17584 09:57:51,292 --> 09:57:51,792 saying aye. 17585 09:57:51,792 --> 09:57:52,727 All opposed nay. 17586 09:57:52,727 --> 09:57:53,270 Show it passed. Was that 17587 09:57:53,270 --> 09:57:55,270 everything? 17588 09:57:56,330 --> 09:57:57,231 All right. 17589 09:57:57,231 --> 09:57:59,599 >> do we agree on 17590 09:57:59,599 --> 09:58:00,500 rescheduling of the cra? 17591 09:58:00,500 --> 09:58:01,134 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17592 09:58:01,134 --> 09:58:03,503 they are going to figure 17593 09:58:03,503 --> 09:58:04,237 it out. 17594 09:58:04,237 --> 09:58:05,710 They are going reschedule. 17595 09:58:05,710 --> 09:58:05,805 >> hold on, hold on -- 17596 09:58:05,805 --> 09:58:07,574 >> CHAIRMAN Rodriquez: 17597 09:58:07,574 --> 09:58:09,574 show us adjourned. 17598 09:58:13,779 --> 09:58:16,179 Show us adjourned, guys.