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for you.

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and human development.

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Also have florida international

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university, the institute for

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civic leadership.

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Miami dade college institute

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for civic engagement and

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democracy.

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The clio institute.

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Miami workers center.

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Hispanic unity of florida.

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Again, the mexican american

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council for getting the youth

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engaged.

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And we also have the prosperity

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social and community

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development group.

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Thank you to the community

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partners for making this

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happen.

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The mayor and the chair, the

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mayor will read it for you so

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you know what it says.

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>>mayor cava: for the photos

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you can take off your yellow

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stickers, that was to get you

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in the building and guess what?

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You arrived so that's great.

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To each of these fine

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organizations we say many

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appreciation, much

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appreciation, this is our

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certificate of appreciation, on

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behalf of the board and

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residents of miami dade county

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+3 million I take pleasure in

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presenting the certificate to

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you in recognition of your

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valuable contributions to our

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community and for your support

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and dedication in bringing

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miami-dade county next academy

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to life on this first day of

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the month of SEPTEMBER 2026

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miami dade county florida

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signed by commissioner bastien,

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CHAIRMAN Anthony rodriguez and

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myself as mayor.

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>>mayor cava: so where did

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these classes take place, how

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many of you attended in person?

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And where did you go?

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And what's the common

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denominator?

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Libraries.

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All right, and we are so

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pleased our library director

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lydia lopez is with us, please

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join us up here.

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Because our libraries are truly

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our most democratic

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institutions.

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available to support our

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community so let's give a round

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of applause again to our

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libraries.

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All of our graduates.

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>>mayor cava: all right all you

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wonderful graduates, so good.

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We will take it.

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Are we going to need 2, shall

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we put all people behind?

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You tell us, there is armando,

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she will direct us what we need

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away, like al did this change

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your life or your approach or

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your plans, what was your

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biggest take away, anyone want

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My name is tanisha paul and I

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lead a company called civico

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due to the flexibility of

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miami-dade county I had my

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little ones, but that being

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said one of the great takeaways

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for me was section 2. When we

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talk about community from a

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design standpoint that being

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the infrastructure, the

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institution, the people and I

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laugh a little because one of

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the great exercises was asset

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mapping.

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With the asset mapping which I

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did twice, but with the asset

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mapping it allowed me to map

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out something we're working on

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about place-based investment

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and redevelopment.

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that because I love the elders

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feedback but the program is

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great, all sections were cool

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but section 2 is near and dear

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>> my name is arianna, a public

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servant and I work with the

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department of transportation

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and I also am part of nonprofit

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organizations, one of them

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being women in transportation

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where we work with the youth,

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k-12 students and lead them

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through career pathways and the

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most significant part of this

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civics academy was the

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networking with other people

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created during the civics

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academy will help me build a

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better future and to lift up

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the nonprofit organizations I

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>> I'm bone needed jones

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peabody it was an amazing

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brownsville civic neighborhood

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association, I have a

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non-for-profit, education means

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more access for pregnant teen

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moms but what it did for me was

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opportunity came when someone

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asked me again having been part

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of this, I relished the

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opportunity to do it so now I'm

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running for office.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm in the runoff so see you in

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NOVEMBER, thank you.

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breakfast but this is the

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perfect opportunity.

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stay if there are issues you

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are speaking on show them all

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the amazing things.

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mary, are you good morning,

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thank you for being here.

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Oday of course is SEPTEMBER 1

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which kicks off many things

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including childhood cancer

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awareness month and we have 2

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incredible organizations here

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this morning and we will start

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with mystic forest.

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As we know, the mystic forest

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foundation was founded 18 years

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ago in honor of salvador funny

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and is dedicated to supporting

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children and families affected

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by pediatric cancer through

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advocacy awareness amenity

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outreach programs that provide

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hold assistance and comfort

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throughout their cancer

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continues to raise awareness on

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childhood cancer, provide

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support for families and

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inspire communities to fight

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against pediatric cancer

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through compassion service and

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advocacy so therefore on behalf

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of our mayor whose right here

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our entire board of county

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commissioners and the community

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here we do proclaim, the month

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of SEPTEMBER 2026 as childhood

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cancer awareness month in

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miami-dade county.

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Why don't you come up here and

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I'll have the mayor say a few

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words and we would like to hear

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from you as well.

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>>mayor cava: I'm very pleased

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to join our wonderful

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commissioner mickey steinberg

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with this presentation and let

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me say mysteriously behind us

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as arrived this glorious

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bouquet which was presented to

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me and I had no idea it was

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this big.

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I said to bring it down but I

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think it's very fitting we

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should have this beautiful,

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vibrant bouquet of life and I'm

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wearing my butterfly for a

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ascendance so that is what this

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program as I said earlier.

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our children on their way to

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provide support because we know

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it's not just the medicine,

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it's the heart, it's the

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caring.

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It's the pouring love to those

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who've gone through challenging

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times that helps them on their

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way to fight back and win so

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thank you and congratulations

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and to the two young men who

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are here celebrating their own

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journey we congratulate you, we

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celebrate you and we give

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thanks to those who are here to

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embrace you on the way, thank

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you commission.

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>>commissioner steinberg: thank

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you for supporting our

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children, my journey started 18

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years ago when my baby was

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years, a devastating and

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torturous treatment for him but

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the one thing you always, his

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spirit was about always having

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fun and being able to enjoy

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life every moment that he

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For that us that is what we

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bring to our children,

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celebrating every day, giving

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them back some of the childhood

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that is always lost to a

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childhood cancer diagnosis and

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our children are in the

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hospital for a day or two,

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these children battled cancer

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for years they become part of

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our own family.

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The support we get from our

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community is truly exceptional

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and not seen anywhere in the

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Miami dade county, south

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florida is the most caring and

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wonderful community literally

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in the world and we are so

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thankful for all the support we

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>>commissioner steinberg: our

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next presentation is also to a

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wonderful organizationand

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childhood cancer awareness week

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is observed each SEPTEMBER and

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the live like bella childhood

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cancer foundation was

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established in memory of bella

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rodriguez torres and is

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dedicated to changing childhood

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cancer from a terminal

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diagnosis to a treatable and

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curable disease by funding

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research, providing financial

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emotional support to families

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The live like bella foundation

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impact supporting families

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through their cancer journey,

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advancing cancer research

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raising awareness and insuring

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children and their families

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have access to resources care

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and support they need so

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whereas miami dade counties

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does proclaim on behalf of the

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mayor, county commission and

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everybody SEPTEMBER 2026 as

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childhood cancer awareness

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month in honor of the live like

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bella and with that I will pass

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it to the mayor as well.

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>>mayor cava: thank you for

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making sure we pay tribute to

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the organizations that take

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care of our children during

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their greatest time of need.

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I have been part of this great

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organization for many years,

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bella was a resident of

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district 8 as well and of

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course we named a park in honor

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of bella in again district 8,

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these were things I got to do,

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so proud to do during my time

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as commissioner and since then

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we know the organization is

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grown to be a tremendous force

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for not only family support,

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child support but research and

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has been able to raise dollars

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and have breakthroughs for our

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children through that research

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so providing so much hope and

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every year with the run and the

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gala, many other events people

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are joining the movement

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because they see and are

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inspired by the great work of

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the family and the organization

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so congratulations.

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>> just want to say thank you

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again so much mayor and to

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reiterate what some of you

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mentioned miami is thankful

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your for your support efforts

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and awareness for our children

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battling cancer.

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Bella fought for 6 years before

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she passed away in 2013 and the

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support while she was fighting

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was so overwhelming and a

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blessing and the fact that the

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city and community are still

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supporting pediatric cancer

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awareness and funding and

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research is humbling and we are

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thankful and appreciative and i

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think bella's sister reynaud

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wants to say something.

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>> it's incredible to be here

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to stand alongside my mom and

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it's incredible what you're

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doing and we will continue to

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build and continue to live like

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bella until we find a cure.

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>>mayor cava: for anyone who

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knew bella, it was her spirit

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that moved people, so and

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really she is looking down on

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all of us this week on behalf

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of our children who make great

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progress and she's a special

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spirit, thank you and GOD

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bless.

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>>commissioner steinberg: a

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picture with both amazing

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organizations, why don't you

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tell us what's happening.

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>> this week we have our ninth

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annual childhood awareness gold

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ribbon parade, it's the largest

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parade in the world.

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Dedicated to childhood cancer.

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We have over 100 gold ribbon

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police cars, 50 police

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motorcycles.

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It is a police escorted caravan

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from nicholas children's

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hospital past hold children's

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hospital and alex's place,

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ronald Mcdonald house and joe

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dimaggio children's hospital.

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It's police escorted so you can

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see it on cbs news but also

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check out our social media and

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finally viewing routes.

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>>commissioner steinberg: now

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our final presentation, where

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acknowledging hunger action.

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So miami-dade county is

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altering well, feeding south

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florida for those who MAY not

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know I've been around since

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1981.

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And have worked to address food

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and hunger insecurity in

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miami-dade county providing the

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community with immediate access

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to nutritious food and other

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vital resources and support.

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Feeding south florida weaves on

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their efforts while

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transforming lives through

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innovative programming and

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provides economic growth and

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overall well-being so SEPTEMBER

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is also hunger action month on

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behalf of our mayor and county

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commission we do proclaim

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SEPTEMBER as hunger action

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month.

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>>mayor cava: in a former life,

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I my work was about connecting

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people to resources they needed

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especially in times of great

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need and food obviously is

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number one.

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Feeding south florida is our

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premier south florida

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00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,130
organization located in the

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south day providing those

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services and it also provides

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it not just in miami-dade but

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around the state so we are very

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proud of the work and of the

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partnership between miami-dade

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county and feeding south

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00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,100
florida and we know that

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whenever help is needed feeding

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south florida steps up,

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congratulations and thank you.

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00:29:50,214 --> 00:29:52,840
>> good morning everyone.

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My name is cosmo and I'm the

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director of strategic efforts

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in miami-dade county and on

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behalf of our team I'd like to

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thank the city commissioners

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for recognizing SEPTEMBER.

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Feeding south florida is the

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relieving relief organization

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00:30:09,634 --> 00:30:10,535
in palm beach broward

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00:30:10,535 --> 00:30:12,535
miami-dade.

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00:30:15,174 --> 00:30:17,142
E serve 1.7

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00:30:17,142 --> 00:30:19,110
million individuals and here in

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00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:21,110
miami-dade we provide

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00:30:21,130 --> 00:30:22,150
nutritious services for 553,000

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00:30:22,150 --> 00:30:23,149
households.

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00:30:23,149 --> 00:30:24,160
through our new direct

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programs.

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Our work goes beyond food

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distribution, the community

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00:30:29,121 --> 00:30:31,900
pantries ensure families have

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access to nutritious food, our

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school pantries for kids make

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sure children don't go hungry

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00:30:36,129 --> 00:30:39,129
in the classroom, for older

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00:30:41,268 --> 00:30:43,270
adults our benefits in outreach

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00:30:43,270 --> 00:30:45,372
stretch two brothers, we invest

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in long-term stability to

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prepare individuals for careers

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in housing and logistics.

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These programs reflect our

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commitment not just to feeding

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families today but also to live

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a stronger hunger free south

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florida.

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We are grateful to the city of

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miami for this recognition and

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for your ongoing partnerships

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and helping us move closer to a

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community where no one will

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wonder where their next meal

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00:31:20,107 --> 00:31:22,107
will come from.

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>>mayor cava: some might not be

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00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:25,979
aware but there are changes at

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00:31:25,979 --> 00:31:27,248
the federal level in the snap

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00:31:27,248 --> 00:31:30,248
program and many families are

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00:31:30,383 --> 00:31:31,585
losing their snap formerly

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00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:33,421
called food stamp benefits so

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00:31:33,421 --> 00:31:34,555
our food banks are more

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00:31:34,555 --> 00:31:36,491
critical than ever to assist

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00:31:36,491 --> 00:31:39,491
our families and it really

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00:31:50,171 --> 00:31:53,171
needs our support, thank you.

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Since

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>>.

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[Break]

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>> we will start in spanish

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00:33:08,952 --> 00:33:10,952
with catalina.

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00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:55,965
[Speaking spanish]

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00:33:57,769 --> 00:34:00,471
>> I'm one of the elders and

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00:34:00,471 --> 00:34:04,710
this weekend we did the parade

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00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:13,917
in wynnewood.

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00:34:13,917 --> 00:34:15,919
It's a facility that takes

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00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:17,870
place every year in the city of

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columbia where we will end

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00:34:18,922 --> 00:34:20,123
actually this arrangement is

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made by people in the forums

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00:34:21,925 --> 00:34:23,926
outside the city where they

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00:34:23,926 --> 00:34:25,194
used to come and carry their

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products to the city but later

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00:34:27,129 --> 00:34:29,640
on the they proceed with doing

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a festivity with them and be

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recognized because of their

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hard work.

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So they do this arrangement

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once a year so they go through

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00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,840
the streets of the city and

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it's an honor for us to be here

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presenting this arrangement

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that was especially made for

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the mayor of miami-dade county.

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00:35:10,536 --> 00:35:12,438
>> this was a surprise, they

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00:35:12,438 --> 00:35:13,673
contacted me and said the

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flowers were not going to last

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much longer.

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00:35:16,575 --> 00:35:18,444
They wanted to give me flowers

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and I said I would be here

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00:35:19,545 --> 00:35:20,512
today, I have no idea.

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00:35:20,512 --> 00:35:22,447
What this was.

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00:35:22,447 --> 00:35:22,714
I'm really so honored and

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grateful.

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00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:26,451
So we know what's happening in

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columbia right now.

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E are

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00:35:28,553 --> 00:35:32,153
doing our best to recover from

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00:35:40,831 --> 00:35:42,766
the devastating earthquake.

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This country, this county

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especially as was said for

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00:35:46,636 --> 00:35:47,804
children with cancer is always

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00:35:47,804 --> 00:35:49,639
showing care and we have been

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00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:50,907
sending care and relief to

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columbia but we know it will be

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00:35:51,875 --> 00:35:53,776
a long recovery.

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00:35:53,776 --> 00:35:55,778
The city of medellin was not

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affected but the whole country

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00:35:57,747 --> 00:36:01,347
is in mourning and we stand

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00:36:01,650 --> 00:36:03,585
with the colombian people and I

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00:36:03,585 --> 00:36:05,620
want to acknowledge on saturday

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00:36:05,620 --> 00:36:07,422
I attended the 50th anniversary

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00:36:07,422 --> 00:36:09,822
of the colombian american

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00:36:17,310 --> 00:36:20,310
chamber of commerce in miami.

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00:36:38,484 --> 00:36:39,652
[Speaking spanish] So

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00:36:39,652 --> 00:36:41,453
incredible, did we get enough

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00:36:41,453 --> 00:36:41,688
pictures of this beautiful

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00:36:41,688 --> 00:36:43,688
display?

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00:36:50,695 --> 00:36:51,864
Thank you armando and I don't

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00:36:51,864 --> 00:36:53,765
know what we are going to do

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00:36:53,765 --> 00:36:55,600
now because obviously this will

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00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,602
dominate the morning if it's

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00:36:57,602 --> 00:36:58,603
left here so we need to find an

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00:36:58,603 --> 00:37:00,603
appropriate place.

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00:37:01,972 --> 00:37:03,274
Maybe we could put it in the

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00:37:03,274 --> 00:37:05,142
hallway to greet people as they

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00:37:05,142 --> 00:37:06,977
come in and they will see this

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00:37:06,977 --> 00:37:09,377
beautiful display, you have

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00:37:49,917 --> 00:37:51,917
something here?

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00:37:58,258 --> 00:37:59,760
And you know, columbia produces

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00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,610
most of the flowers that come

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00:38:01,610 --> 00:38:03,461
into the united states.

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00:38:06,399 --> 00:38:07,567
Mother's day, valentine's day

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00:38:07,567 --> 00:38:09,402
and I think it was something

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00:38:09,402 --> 00:38:11,270
like 90% of the flowers for

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00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:13,670
those holidays come through

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00:38:15,207 --> 00:38:17,207
miami international airport.

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00:38:19,979 --> 00:38:24,779
So it's a great joy for us to

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00:38:32,290 --> 00:38:34,290
celebrate columbia's flowers.

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00:38:37,762 --> 00:38:39,763
I think so, I'm not in the

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00:38:39,763 --> 00:38:40,998
charge of this space but in the

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00:38:40,998 --> 00:38:43,834
hallway outside, I will go with

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00:38:43,834 --> 00:38:45,736
you to show.

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00:38:45,736 --> 00:38:49,936
I think the rest of the meeting

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00:59:03,287 --> 00:59:05,287
[Break]

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00:59:14,132 --> 00:59:17,132
>>chair: all right guys, take

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00:59:20,339 --> 00:59:22,240
your seats, find a seat.

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00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,242
Unless you are press or law

579
00:59:24,242 --> 00:59:25,143
enforcement you should not be

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00:59:25,143 --> 00:59:27,143
standing up.

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00:59:27,947 --> 00:59:31,547
And I need the podiums placed

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,840
where they go.

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All right clerk please call the

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roll.

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>> clerk's office has received

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notification commissioner

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bastien will be absent from

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today's meeting.

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Cohen higgins period yay.

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>>senator garcia:

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>>commissioner gilbert:

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>>commissioner gonzalez:

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01:00:00,346 --> 01:00:01,981
>>commissioner hardemon:

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>>commissioner lopez:

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>>commissioner milian orbis:

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01:00:06,753 --> 01:00:08,753
>>commissioner regalado:

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>>commissioner steinberg:

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>>commissioner mcghee:

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>>chair: present.

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>> we only have six members

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01:00:31,578 --> 01:00:31,745
present, we don't have a quorum

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01:00:31,745 --> 01:00:33,580
um.

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01:00:33,580 --> 01:00:34,781
>>chair: while we wait for a

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01:00:34,781 --> 01:00:38,981
quorum I'm going to ask you all

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01:00:42,923 --> 01:00:44,240
to pleasell to please stand up

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01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,600
quietly for that invocation

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,929
this morning given by pastor

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carson of the granada church at

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the invitation of commissioner

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milian orbis followed by the

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pledge of allegiance led by

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commissioner r gilbert.

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Thank you for the invitation to

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pray with you today.

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Let's close our eyes, bow our

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heads and let's pray.

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We heads and let's pray.

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We seek your faith today on

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behalf of our community

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miami-dade county for all the

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live work and serve here, we

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give you thanks for this

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beautiful place we call home

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and for all who give themselves

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for the good of our community.

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Especially we pray for our

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mayor, for family, for our

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commissioners, thank you for

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their willingness to serve for

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the e responsibilities they

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lities they

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carry and the

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families who support lies who

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support them.

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Lord as they undertake the

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difficult work today especially

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the work of preparing for a

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,965
budget grant them wisdom,

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01:01:55,965 --> 01:01:57,199
patience and discernment.

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When resources are limited help

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them recognize what matters.

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01:02:01,304 --> 01:02:02,939
Give them courage to make

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difficult decisions, humility

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01:02:04,173 --> 01:02:06,109
to listen well and the grace to

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when compromise will serve the

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common good.

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01:02:08,978 --> 01:02:10,790
Help them work together with

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respect even when they

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disagree.

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01:02:12,115 --> 01:02:14,830
We pray also for all who have

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01:02:14,830 --> 01:02:16,152
come today to speak, to listen,

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01:02:16,152 --> 01:02:18,880
to participate, help us see one

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,230
another not as opponents but as

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neighbors and fellow members of

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this community each seeking

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01:02:23,193 --> 01:02:25,194
it's good and when today's work

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01:02:25,194 --> 01:02:27,970
is done help us to entrust what

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01:02:27,970 --> 01:02:29,333
has been decided to you, MAY

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01:02:29,333 --> 01:02:31,134
the work done one here

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01:02:31,134 --> 01:02:32,335
contribute to peace,

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01:02:32,335 --> 01:02:34,170
flourishing in the well-being

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01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:35,138
of all who call miami-dade

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county home.

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For this place, for these

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01:02:38,175 --> 01:02:39,376
people, for the privilege of

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serving one another we give you

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thanks so lord and we pray in

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01:02:41,745 --> 01:02:43,413
your name, amen.

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>> I pledge of allegiance to

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the flag of the united states

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of america and to the republic

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01:02:49,186 --> 01:02:51,188
for which it stands, one nation

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under GOD indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>>chair: you MAY be seated.

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01:03:02,833 --> 01:03:04,350
All right.

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01:03:04,350 --> 01:03:06,137
Welcome back guys, do we have

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01:03:06,137 --> 01:03:08,106
quorum now?

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01:03:08,106 --> 01:03:12,306
Let me see, before we do the

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quorum call?

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All right clerk, please call

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the rule.

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01:03:42,608 --> 01:03:43,608
>>commissioner bermudez:

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present.

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01:03:45,611 --> 01:03:46,612
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

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01:03:46,612 --> 01:03:48,612
present.

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01:03:48,648 --> 01:03:50,616
>>senator garcia:

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01:03:50,616 --> 01:03:52,616
>>commissioner gilbert:

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01:03:52,618 --> 01:03:54,219
>>commissioner gonzalez:

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01:03:54,219 --> 01:03:56,219
>>commissioner hardemon:

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01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:59,190
>>commissioner lopez: here.

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01:03:59,192 --> 01:04:01,192
>>commissioner milian orbis:

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01:04:01,194 --> 01:04:02,194
>>commissioner regalado:

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01:04:02,194 --> 01:04:04,194
present.

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01:04:04,196 --> 01:04:06,320
>>commissioner steinberg:

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,320
>>commissioner mcghee:

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>>chair: I'm here.

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01:04:11,671 --> 01:04:12,805
>> we have nine members

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01:04:12,805 --> 01:04:14,674
present, we have a quorum.

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01:04:14,674 --> 01:04:17,740
>>chair: thank you, madam

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attorney, is it in order to

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01:04:23,282 --> 01:04:24,183
admit reasonable opportunity at

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01:04:24,183 --> 01:04:26,183
this time.

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01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:32,359
>> yes MR. Chair, good morning.

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01:04:32,359 --> 01:04:34,394
>>chair: I will open up

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reasonable opportunity for the

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01:04:35,496 --> 01:04:37,398
public to be heard, please

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01:04:37,398 --> 01:04:39,366
state your name and address and

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01:04:39,366 --> 01:04:40,567
the item on which you are

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01:04:40,567 --> 01:04:44,167
speaking of and you will have 1

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01:04:44,471 --> 01:04:45,673
minute to speak.

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01:04:45,673 --> 01:04:47,675
Victor antennas, please line

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01:04:47,675 --> 01:04:49,543
up, approached the podium and

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01:04:49,543 --> 01:04:50,578
as I call your name line up

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01:04:50,578 --> 01:04:52,578
beside each file.

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01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:58,750
[Reading names] None of these

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01:04:58,853 --> 01:05:00,853
people are here.

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01:05:02,857 --> 01:05:04,857
They are here.

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01:05:19,507 --> 01:05:23,107
Need you guys to approach the

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podium.

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01:05:37,626 --> 01:05:39,628
>>public speaker: hello, my

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01:05:39,628 --> 01:05:40,729
name is nicole, I live at 795

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01:05:40,729 --> 01:05:42,597
southwest. 110th avenue.

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I'm a student at florida

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01:05:53,108 --> 01:05:55,108
international university,

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01:05:55,110 --> 01:05:57,113
sustainability meeting we are

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01:05:57,113 --> 01:05:58,314
protecting the environment for

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01:05:58,314 --> 01:06:00,316
future generations which this

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01:06:00,316 --> 01:06:02,318
item does the exact opposite of

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01:06:02,318 --> 01:06:03,319
that, paving over wetlands or

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01:06:03,319 --> 01:06:05,220
our own convenience.

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01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:05,488
And I believe we should stop

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01:06:05,488 --> 01:06:07,290
all this.

734
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:09,258
I believe all of us can agree

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01:06:09,258 --> 01:06:11,260
we don't need any more houses,

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01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:13,129
we don't need any more homes,

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01:06:13,129 --> 01:06:15,970
there are so many vacant homes

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01:06:15,970 --> 01:06:16,299
in florida and warehouses and

739
01:06:16,299 --> 01:06:18,268
beige buildings and as I miami

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01:06:18,268 --> 01:06:19,502
born represent resident we

741
01:06:19,502 --> 01:06:22,105
don't want any more money going

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01:06:22,105 --> 01:06:24,400
to this so thank you.

743
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,876
>>public speaker: I am elena

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01:06:25,876 --> 01:06:28,876
lopez, 23rd avenue and I'm

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01:06:29,546 --> 01:06:30,680
speaking on this item, 4b which

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,680
proposes altering the

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01:06:42,459 --> 01:06:44,427
construction of our city.

748
01:06:44,427 --> 01:06:46,364
We have to be very aware of the

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01:06:46,364 --> 01:06:47,598
overwhelming construction that

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01:06:47,598 --> 01:06:49,633
has already been happening and

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01:06:49,633 --> 01:06:51,402
all the taxpayer dollars, where

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01:06:51,402 --> 01:06:53,370
that has been going to.

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01:06:53,370 --> 01:06:54,604
The community is listening, the

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01:06:54,604 --> 01:06:55,707
youth is paying attention to

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01:06:55,707 --> 01:06:57,475
your every decision.

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01:06:57,475 --> 01:06:59,477
I came here on behalf of my

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01:06:59,477 --> 01:07:01,378
students, family members, loved

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01:07:01,378 --> 01:07:04,378
ones that share the same

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01:07:05,115 --> 01:07:07,510
opinions as me.

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01:07:07,510 --> 01:07:09,200
Please make responsible

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01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,287
decisions, use taxpayer dollars

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01:07:10,287 --> 01:07:12,123
responsibly and listen to the

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01:07:12,123 --> 01:07:13,323
what the people have to say

764
01:07:13,323 --> 01:07:16,323
will give you your positions

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01:07:16,661 --> 01:07:18,563
and thank you.

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01:07:18,563 --> 01:07:19,797
>>public speaker: my name is

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01:07:19,797 --> 01:07:21,666
dave ian, 54791 northwest.

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01:07:21,666 --> 01:07:25,266
Second street, we are here to

769
01:07:31,576 --> 01:07:33,511
speak on 4b.

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01:07:33,511 --> 01:07:35,514
We want to talk about general

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01:07:35,514 --> 01:07:36,715
development happening in

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01:07:36,715 --> 01:07:38,650
florida especially over nature

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01:07:38,650 --> 01:07:40,519
and taking our trees and the

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01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:41,787
community does not want this.

775
01:07:41,787 --> 01:07:43,655
O matter what development it

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01:07:43,655 --> 01:07:45,524
is, the amount of jobs do not

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01:07:45,524 --> 01:07:46,692
reverse the damage that would

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01:07:46,692 --> 01:07:48,527
happen to our animals,

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01:07:48,527 --> 01:07:50,927
especially in the everglades.

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01:07:56,202 --> 01:07:57,269
We just want our community to

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01:07:57,269 --> 01:07:59,138
benefit and our future

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01:07:59,138 --> 01:08:01,140
generations are just going to

783
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:03,142
look over a concrete jungle and

784
01:08:03,142 --> 01:08:04,209
wonder what happened so your

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01:08:04,209 --> 01:08:05,378
honor, the position to

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01:08:05,378 --> 01:08:07,146
represent us so represent us

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01:08:07,146 --> 01:08:08,314
and our needs over the

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01:08:08,314 --> 01:08:09,248
corporations wants, thank you

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01:08:09,248 --> 01:08:11,117
for your time.

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01:08:11,117 --> 01:08:12,284
>>public speaker: hello

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01:08:12,284 --> 01:08:14,284
commissioners and CHAIRMAN,

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01:08:14,286 --> 01:08:16,286
sophia mayor, 1172 fountain

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01:08:17,490 --> 01:08:18,691
blue boulevard miami florida

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01:08:18,691 --> 01:08:20,493
and I wanted to speak about

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01:08:20,493 --> 01:08:21,761
item at 4b and warden board

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01:08:21,761 --> 01:08:23,663
members to be educated about

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01:08:23,663 --> 01:08:25,698
our agenda item being voted on,

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01:08:25,698 --> 01:08:27,666
every vote matters because we

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01:08:27,666 --> 01:08:29,602
need positive impacts that will

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01:08:29,602 --> 01:08:31,503
benefit residents, great power

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01:08:31,503 --> 01:08:33,503
comes responsibility.

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01:08:33,505 --> 01:08:34,740
Taking accountability with

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01:08:34,740 --> 01:08:36,641
integrity and compassion is

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01:08:36,641 --> 01:08:38,510
vital for making an impact

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01:08:38,510 --> 01:08:39,678
whether that's creating

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01:08:39,678 --> 01:08:41,678
affordable housing, protecting

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01:08:42,480 --> 01:08:44,482
first amendment expressions and

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01:08:44,482 --> 01:08:46,617
preserving our environment from

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01:08:46,617 --> 01:08:48,485
harmful developments such as

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01:08:48,485 --> 01:08:49,820
kelly tractors and etc. The

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01:08:49,820 --> 01:08:51,655
existing udp boundaries there

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01:08:51,655 --> 01:08:53,590
to protect the last remaining

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01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:55,492
wetland so what does that send

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01:08:55,492 --> 01:08:57,492
from elected officials,

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01:08:57,494 --> 01:08:58,695
businesses can drive but it

816
01:08:58,695 --> 01:09:02,295
shouldn't be at the expense of

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01:09:04,901 --> 01:09:05,902
wildlife and wetlands we need

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01:09:05,902 --> 01:09:07,803
and benefit from.

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01:09:07,803 --> 01:09:09,400
If there's something I want

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01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:10,973
commissioners to remember is

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01:09:10,973 --> 01:09:12,808
that we can all work together

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01:09:12,808 --> 01:09:14,420
and reach a common ground, we

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01:09:14,420 --> 01:09:16,110
don't have to see each other as

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01:09:16,110 --> 01:09:16,945
a burden but an outlet for

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01:09:16,945 --> 01:09:17,946
change.

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01:09:17,946 --> 01:09:19,815
It's never too late to care

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01:09:19,815 --> 01:09:21,149
about each other and rc.

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01:09:21,149 --> 01:09:22,951
>>chair: is that it?

829
01:09:22,951 --> 01:09:24,819
I have joseph and victor.

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01:09:24,819 --> 01:09:27,219
Going once, going twice.

831
01:09:31,925 --> 01:09:33,894
Then I have our tax collector,

832
01:09:33,894 --> 01:09:35,729
dario fernandez who is not able

833
01:09:35,729 --> 01:09:36,931
to have made it but he has a

834
01:09:36,931 --> 01:09:38,165
prepared video to share during

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01:09:38,165 --> 01:09:40,565
his moment of opportunity.

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01:09:53,846 --> 01:09:54,460
Do you want to say something

837
01:09:54,460 --> 01:09:54,313
first.

838
01:09:54,313 --> 01:09:56,810
Go ahead.

839
01:09:56,810 --> 01:09:58,500
> met on that mayor my name

840
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:00,190
is andrew lopez, director of

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01:10:00,190 --> 01:10:01,920
motor services at the office of

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,855
the miami-dade county tax

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01:10:03,855 --> 01:10:04,990
collector and on behalf of the

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01:10:04,990 --> 01:10:06,958
dario fernandez we have an

845
01:10:06,958 --> 01:10:09,958
important video message we like

846
01:10:16,434 --> 01:10:18,402
to share with this board.

847
01:10:18,402 --> 01:10:19,603
>> good morning mayor and

848
01:10:19,603 --> 01:10:21,472
residents of miami dade county,

849
01:10:21,472 --> 01:10:22,373
I have miami-dade county tax

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01:10:22,373 --> 01:10:24,373
collector.

851
01:10:24,375 --> 01:10:25,375
german rodriguez thank you for

852
01:10:25,375 --> 01:10:26,577
working with me.

853
01:10:26,577 --> 01:10:27,411
And my team on this important

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01:10:27,411 --> 01:10:29,411
issue.

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01:10:29,413 --> 01:10:30,580
Today I am confirming that our

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01:10:30,580 --> 01:10:32,549
roadways commission under the

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01:10:32,549 --> 01:10:34,417
approved school board millage

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01:10:34,417 --> 01:10:35,618
for the year 2026 2027.

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01:10:35,618 --> 01:10:37,487
This will save miami-dade

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01:10:37,487 --> 01:10:37,720
county residents more than 30

861
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,720
million.

862
01:10:40,389 --> 01:10:41,657
I asked the commission to use

863
01:10:41,657 --> 01:10:44,657
this savings for property tax

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01:10:46,762 --> 01:10:48,630
relief and to protect police

865
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:49,798
fire rescue and emergency

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01:10:49,798 --> 01:10:50,632
response and other essential

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01:10:50,632 --> 01:10:51,767
services.

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01:10:51,767 --> 01:10:54,167
His year we expect

869
01:10:54,603 --> 01:10:56,604
97 million to be returned to

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01:10:56,604 --> 01:10:58,173
all taxing authorities

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01:10:58,173 --> 01:10:59,307
including 84 million that will

872
01:10:59,307 --> 01:11:00,174
benefit miami dade county

873
01:11:00,174 --> 01:11:02,174
residents.

874
01:11:03,144 --> 01:11:05,544
This includes that 20 million

875
01:11:09,683 --> 01:11:10,884
returned hourly in APRIL and 64

876
01:11:10,884 --> 01:11:13,620
million expected to be returned

877
01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:14,821
at the end of the fiscal year.

878
01:11:14,821 --> 01:11:16,821
Miami's financial management

879
01:11:17,724 --> 01:11:19,592
has allowed us to operate

880
01:11:19,592 --> 01:11:21,992
without requesting up to 24

881
01:11:24,997 --> 01:11:26,132
million in advances that we

882
01:11:26,132 --> 01:11:28,670
were entitled to receive.

883
01:11:28,670 --> 01:11:31,670
Our office also does not

884
01:11:31,570 --> 01:11:33,572
collect the 2% commission of

885
01:11:33,572 --> 01:11:35,572
incorporated areas under

886
01:11:36,674 --> 01:11:38,674
municipalities.

887
01:11:38,676 --> 01:11:39,845
3% is 40 million in savings for

888
01:11:39,845 --> 01:11:41,845
miami-dade county residents.

889
01:11:43,248 --> 01:11:45,316
Let me be very clear, no other

890
01:11:45,316 --> 01:11:46,840
tax collector in florida does

891
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,190
this.

892
01:11:48,190 --> 01:11:51,619
And all of these savings are

893
01:11:55,659 --> 01:11:56,827
being achieved without

894
01:11:56,827 --> 01:11:58,827
affecting our services.

895
01:11:59,663 --> 01:12:01,665
I believe it's important to do

896
01:12:01,665 --> 01:12:05,265
everything we can to help our

897
01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:08,638
residents while continuing to

898
01:12:08,638 --> 01:12:09,471
provide a quality service they

899
01:12:09,471 --> 01:12:11,471
depend on.

900
01:12:11,574 --> 01:12:13,476
To the residents of miami-dade

901
01:12:13,476 --> 01:12:15,377
county, we are coming here to

902
01:12:15,377 --> 01:12:17,379
lower your taxes supporting our

903
01:12:17,379 --> 01:12:18,447
public schools, protecting our

904
01:12:18,447 --> 01:12:20,847
police and keeping the

905
01:12:23,151 --> 01:12:25,860
important service you depend on

906
01:12:25,860 --> 01:12:26,321
300 thank you GOD bless

907
01:12:26,321 --> 01:12:29,321
miami-dade county and GOD bless

908
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,962
the united states of america.

909
01:12:34,962 --> 01:12:36,997
>> we submitted a letter to the

910
01:12:36,997 --> 01:12:39,833
clerk to distribute to everyone

911
01:12:39,833 --> 01:12:41,680
of you detailing everything MR.

912
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:42,903
Fernandez covered in the video

913
01:12:42,903 --> 01:12:44,838
and if you have questions we

914
01:12:44,838 --> 01:12:46,390
are here to respond.

915
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:47,974
>>chair: the mayor and myself

916
01:12:47,974 --> 01:12:49,843
have been speaking with the tax

917
01:12:49,843 --> 01:12:51,440
collector and we wrote him a

918
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:52,912
letter to try to get him and

919
01:12:52,912 --> 01:12:56,512
he's agreed so this as you

920
01:12:57,250 --> 01:12:59,850
mentioned is $13 million that

921
01:12:59,850 --> 01:13:00,152
will be outlined in the the

922
01:13:00,152 --> 01:13:02,152
mayor's change memo.

923
01:13:02,187 --> 01:13:04,230
So personally I'd like to thank

924
01:13:04,230 --> 01:13:05,124
the tax collector for his

925
01:13:05,124 --> 01:13:07,125
partnership and commitment as

926
01:13:07,125 --> 01:13:08,960
he did last year working with

927
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,194
the county to deliver the

928
01:13:09,194 --> 01:13:10,362
savings.

929
01:13:10,362 --> 01:13:12,970
Thank you MR. Tax collector.

930
01:13:12,970 --> 01:13:15,697
MADAM Attorney is it in order

931
01:13:17,602 --> 01:13:19,704
to set the agenda at this time.

932
01:13:19,704 --> 01:13:21,505
>> I apologize but I have just

933
01:13:21,505 --> 01:13:22,573
received some additional

934
01:13:22,573 --> 01:13:23,541
requests and need a few

935
01:13:23,541 --> 01:13:25,541
minutes.

936
01:13:40,422 --> 01:13:41,657
>>chair: take your time.

937
01:13:41,657 --> 01:13:44,657
>>chair: I also need director

938
01:13:45,227 --> 01:13:46,362
lord is to read a statement.

939
01:13:46,362 --> 01:13:49,362
>> that can be read now.

940
01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:51,400
>> is the director in the

941
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,400
building.

942
01:13:55,570 --> 01:13:58,339
While we have the attorneys

943
01:13:58,339 --> 01:14:00,739
summarize the agenda changes.

944
01:14:04,450 --> 01:14:05,546
Director I know it's just a

945
01:14:05,546 --> 01:14:07,214
protocol stating you need to

946
01:14:07,214 --> 01:14:11,414
read, if you could go ahead and

947
01:14:12,819 --> 01:14:14,788
put that notice on the record.

948
01:14:14,788 --> 01:14:16,690
>> lourdes gomez, rer, 6.800

949
01:14:16,690 --> 01:14:18,692
florida statutes requires a

950
01:14:18,692 --> 01:14:20,694
notice of public hearing on a

951
01:14:20,694 --> 01:14:21,928
resolution designating a

952
01:14:21,928 --> 01:14:23,897
brownfield area be announced at

953
01:14:23,897 --> 01:14:25,698
a scheduled meeting before the

954
01:14:25,698 --> 01:14:27,698
actual public hearing.

955
01:14:29,401 --> 01:14:31,337
This announcement serves as

956
01:14:31,337 --> 01:14:32,438
notice a public hearing on the

957
01:14:32,438 --> 01:14:34,339
resolution relating to a

958
01:14:34,339 --> 01:14:35,574
proposed brownfield area

959
01:14:35,574 --> 01:14:37,509
designation is being planned

960
01:14:37,509 --> 01:14:38,343
for this board's OCTOBER 6

961
01:14:38,343 --> 01:14:40,343
meeting.

962
01:14:40,345 --> 01:14:41,613
The proposed designation is for

963
01:14:41,613 --> 01:14:44,130
the property at 7248 southwest

964
01:14:45,583 --> 01:14:45,817
42nd terrace, miami-dade

965
01:14:45,817 --> 01:14:47,817
county.

966
01:14:50,254 --> 01:14:53,854
All right, met an attorney I'm

967
01:15:11,674 --> 01:15:14,740
ready when you're ready.

968
01:15:15,177 --> 01:15:17,577
And while we wait.

969
01:15:22,451 --> 01:15:24,453
While we wait I want to

970
01:15:24,453 --> 01:15:25,620
recognize vice-mayor rhonda

971
01:15:25,620 --> 01:15:27,622
anderson from coral gables, I

972
01:15:27,622 --> 01:15:28,656
believe she's in the chamber,

973
01:15:28,656 --> 01:15:30,558
welcome to our chamber.

974
01:15:30,558 --> 01:15:31,659
I'm sure you're here for a

975
01:15:31,659 --> 01:15:34,659
specific item are you in

976
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,990
support or against an item.

977
01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:40,934
>> in support of an item and if

978
01:15:40,934 --> 01:15:42,936
I MAY, rhonda anderson.

979
01:15:42,936 --> 01:15:44,137
Vice-mayor city of coral gables

980
01:15:44,137 --> 01:15:46,137
business address 284 minard

981
01:16:14,366 --> 01:16:16,234
avenue, 2015 hernando street.

982
01:16:16,234 --> 01:16:17,335
Thank you chair for the

983
01:16:17,335 --> 01:16:18,369
recognition, mayor and

984
01:16:18,369 --> 01:16:19,403
commissioners for the

985
01:16:19,403 --> 01:16:21,239
opportunity to speak.

986
01:16:21,239 --> 01:16:22,306
I came here to thank

987
01:16:22,306 --> 01:16:24,208
commissioner orbis for

988
01:16:24,208 --> 01:16:26,210
entertaining the resolution I

989
01:16:26,210 --> 01:16:27,478
brought to extend the life of

990
01:16:27,478 --> 01:16:29,346
trolleys in our city and for

991
01:16:29,346 --> 01:16:31,381
other municipalities as well.

992
01:16:31,381 --> 01:16:33,216
As the daughter of an airline

993
01:16:33,216 --> 01:16:34,384
mechanic and automotive

994
01:16:34,384 --> 01:16:36,386
mechanic unaware of the test

995
01:16:36,386 --> 01:16:38,354
used to develop the viability

996
01:16:38,354 --> 01:16:40,223
of engines beyond the 15 year

997
01:16:40,223 --> 01:16:41,424
previous mark and I would

998
01:16:41,424 --> 01:16:43,392
appreciate your support in

999
01:16:43,392 --> 01:16:45,294
helping our city of taxpayer

1000
01:16:45,294 --> 01:16:46,462
dollars by extending them to 20

1001
01:16:46,462 --> 01:16:47,329
years, thank you for your time

1002
01:16:47,329 --> 01:16:49,329
all right.

1003
01:16:49,365 --> 01:16:51,333
I think we have another meeting

1004
01:16:51,333 --> 01:16:53,235
do on thursday so I won't get a

1005
01:16:53,235 --> 01:16:54,336
head of my colleague but wish

1006
01:16:54,336 --> 01:16:54,603
everybody a happy rosh

1007
01:16:54,603 --> 01:16:56,371
hashanah.

1008
01:16:56,371 --> 01:16:58,240
We still have another meeting

1009
01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,441
before it starts officially.

1010
01:16:59,441 --> 01:17:00,241
We still see each other before

1011
01:17:00,241 --> 01:17:02,241
then.

1012
01:17:13,153 --> 01:17:15,550
Yes, sure.

1013
01:17:15,550 --> 01:17:17,157
MADAM Clerk, if you'd like to

1014
01:17:17,157 --> 01:17:19,250
make the announcement at this

1015
01:17:19,250 --> 01:17:22,625
time as we await the attorney.

1016
01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:25,965
>> the villalobos award

1017
01:17:25,965 --> 01:17:27,166
recognizes parents who been

1018
01:17:27,166 --> 01:17:29,680
inspired by the memory of a

1019
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,103
lost child and have it taken

1020
01:17:31,103 --> 01:17:32,971
action to influence the munity.

1021
01:17:32,971 --> 01:17:34,106
Pursuant to the award

1022
01:17:34,106 --> 01:17:35,974
procedures for the second

1023
01:17:35,974 --> 01:17:37,974
nomination for 2026 vice

1024
01:17:37,976 --> 01:17:39,978
CHAIRMAN Mcgee nominates tracy

1025
01:17:39,978 --> 01:17:41,790
lyons and commissioner

1026
01:17:41,790 --> 01:17:42,948
steinberg nominates sherry

1027
01:17:42,948 --> 01:17:44,115
silverman on behalf of the

1028
01:17:44,115 --> 01:17:45,449
organization we play for.

1029
01:17:45,449 --> 01:17:47,385
The presentations of the

1030
01:17:47,385 --> 01:17:50,385
vilomah awards will take place

1031
01:17:51,389 --> 01:17:53,389
tuesday, OCTOBER 6.

1032
01:17:54,992 --> 01:17:57,992
>>chair: thank you MADAM Clerk.

1033
01:18:04,801 --> 01:18:05,100
MADAM Attorney are we almost

1034
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:06,870
there?

1035
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:10,373
Let me welcome also our MADAM

1036
01:18:10,373 --> 01:18:12,275
Sheriff to our chamber.

1037
01:18:12,275 --> 01:18:14,843
Thank you for being here for a

1038
01:18:14,843 --> 01:18:16,440
special recognition we have

1039
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:17,947
today and hopefully we will be

1040
01:18:17,947 --> 01:18:18,147
passing it as an item in short

1041
01:18:18,147 --> 01:18:20,150
order.

1042
01:18:20,150 --> 01:18:21,650
MADAM Sheriff I wonder whenever

1043
01:18:21,650 --> 01:18:24,219
there is business that needs to

1044
01:18:24,219 --> 01:18:27,522
be done here you really fill

1045
01:18:27,522 --> 01:18:28,890
this room with your officers

1046
01:18:28,890 --> 01:18:33,900
and I cannot help but think who

1047
01:18:35,330 --> 01:18:37,298
is safeguarding our streets

1048
01:18:37,298 --> 01:18:39,200
because every officer in miami

1049
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,800
seems to be in this chamber

1050
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:45,205
right now.

1051
01:18:45,205 --> 01:18:47,240
>> thank you MR. Chair.

1052
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,640
>>chair: MADAM Attorney go

1053
01:18:49,642 --> 01:18:50,777
ahead.

1054
01:18:50,777 --> 01:18:52,612
>> we have a number of

1055
01:18:52,612 --> 01:18:55,120
requested changes to your

1056
01:19:05,858 --> 01:19:07,859
agenda, item 3a1, senator

1057
01:19:07,859 --> 01:19:08,994
garcia and commissioners

1058
01:19:08,994 --> 01:19:10,929
bermudez and milian orbis are

1059
01:19:10,929 --> 01:19:12,831
adding this item to the whole

1060
01:19:12,831 --> 01:19:14,650
list, 382 ended supplements

1061
01:19:14,650 --> 01:19:15,934
senator garcia and bermudez add

1062
01:19:15,934 --> 01:19:17,836
their names to the pull list.

1063
01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:19,700
Item 4c, prime sponsor has

1064
01:19:19,700 --> 01:19:21,380
requested deferral of this item

1065
01:19:21,380 --> 01:19:21,272
to the OCTOBER 6 commission

1066
01:19:21,272 --> 01:19:23,700
meeting.

1067
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:25,700
Have some requests

1068
01:19:31,248 --> 01:19:31,448
to bifurcate public hearing

1069
01:19:31,448 --> 01:19:33,383
items.

1070
01:19:33,383 --> 01:19:35,783
5e substitute, senator garcia

1071
01:19:36,253 --> 01:19:37,787
and commissioners bermudez and

1072
01:19:37,787 --> 01:19:39,456
regalado wish to bifurcate and

1073
01:19:39,456 --> 01:19:41,457
that is true for 5e substitute,

1074
01:19:41,457 --> 01:19:43,126
5f substitute, 5g substitute

1075
01:19:43,126 --> 01:19:45,526
and 5h substitute, 5m,

1076
01:19:52,334 --> 01:19:54,103
commissioner tran seven, 5p and

1077
01:19:54,103 --> 01:19:56,103
5u just bifurcate,

1078
01:19:56,104 --> 01:19:57,339
commissioners gonzalez and

1079
01:19:57,339 --> 01:20:00,339
regalado wish to bifurcate as

1080
01:20:01,750 --> 01:20:03,770
well as 5y ended supplement, a

1081
01:20:03,770 --> 01:20:05,477
request to bifurcate items

1082
01:20:16,556 --> 01:20:18,558
first second reading, 7a, 7d,

1083
01:20:18,558 --> 01:20:20,560
senator garcia is requesting to

1084
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,562
bifurcate but the sponsor has

1085
01:20:22,562 --> 01:20:23,763
requested deferral to know date

1086
01:20:23,763 --> 01:20:25,565
certain so the board would

1087
01:20:25,565 --> 01:20:26,699
decide how it wishes to

1088
01:20:26,699 --> 01:20:29,990
proceed, that's item 7d.

1089
01:20:29,569 --> 01:20:30,703
7e and supplements commissioner

1090
01:20:30,703 --> 01:20:31,737
gonzales and lopez wish to

1091
01:20:31,737 --> 01:20:33,737
bifurcate this item.

1092
01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:36,375
7f and supplements commissioner

1093
01:20:36,375 --> 01:20:38,444
regalado wishes to bifurcate.

1094
01:20:38,444 --> 01:20:40,844
8a3, commissioner regalado adds

1095
01:20:41,413 --> 01:20:45,130
this item to the pull list.

1096
01:20:47,786 --> 01:20:50,622
8a4 ended supplement and 8a5

1097
01:20:50,622 --> 01:20:51,856
ended supplement commissioner

1098
01:20:51,856 --> 01:20:53,570
bermudez is adding these items

1099
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:55,457
to the pull list.

1100
01:20:58,762 --> 01:20:58,963
8g1, senator garcia pulls this

1101
01:20:58,963 --> 01:21:00,963
item.

1102
01:21:00,965 --> 01:21:03,365
8k1, commissioner gilbert is

1103
01:21:04,668 --> 01:21:06,668
pulling this item.

1104
01:21:06,736 --> 01:21:09,136
8n5, commissioner regalado is

1105
01:21:12,809 --> 01:21:13,900
adding this item to the pull

1106
01:21:13,900 --> 01:21:15,900
list.

1107
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:16,879
8p1, commissioners bermudez and

1108
01:21:16,879 --> 01:21:19,810
milian orbis at this item to

1109
01:21:19,810 --> 01:21:21,810
the pull list.

1110
01:21:21,183 --> 01:21:23,252
11a1, commissioner bermudez is

1111
01:21:23,252 --> 01:21:25,252
pulling the item.

1112
01:21:26,154 --> 01:21:28,554
11a3, commissioner steinberg is

1113
01:21:31,793 --> 01:21:32,961
pulling the item and 11a4,

1114
01:21:32,961 --> 01:21:34,896
commissioner regalado is

1115
01:21:34,896 --> 01:21:36,798
pulling this item and I have a

1116
01:21:36,798 --> 01:21:38,766
request for cosponsorship, 3a2

1117
01:21:38,766 --> 01:21:40,766
commissioner regalado, 5c

1118
01:21:44,371 --> 01:21:46,771
commissioner steinberg, 5x and

1119
01:21:47,474 --> 01:21:49,474
5y, commissioner regalado.

1120
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,550
8h2, commissioner regalado and

1121
01:22:03,550 --> 01:22:05,910
10a2 commissioner lopez, items

1122
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:07,920
to be considered on today's

1123
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:08,961
meeting will be those listed in

1124
01:22:08,961 --> 01:22:09,995
the final printed agenda with

1125
01:22:09,995 --> 01:22:11,930
additions deferrals and

1126
01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:13,932
scriveners errors noted in the

1127
01:22:13,932 --> 01:22:15,660
CHAIRMAN's memorandum and the

1128
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:16,935
items I mentioned we had

1129
01:22:16,935 --> 01:22:18,136
commission will approve all

1130
01:22:18,136 --> 01:22:20,138
items by a single low setting

1131
01:22:20,138 --> 01:22:22,730
the agenda except ordinances

1132
01:22:22,730 --> 01:22:23,941
for first reading, public

1133
01:22:23,941 --> 01:22:25,943
hearings, item 6a1 to reduce

1134
01:22:25,943 --> 01:22:27,780
inefficiencies at procurement,

1135
01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:29,478
ordinances set for second

1136
01:22:29,513 --> 01:22:30,747
reading, items 8p2 and 8p3,

1137
01:22:30,747 --> 01:22:32,650
airport contracts which must be

1138
01:22:32,650 --> 01:22:34,518
voted on separately and are not

1139
01:22:34,518 --> 01:22:38,118
on your pull list on the

1140
01:22:38,187 --> 01:22:40,587
following pull list items.

1141
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:44,127
3a1 ended supplement, 3a2 ended

1142
01:22:44,127 --> 01:22:46,127
supplement.

1143
01:22:49,565 --> 01:22:52,565
Requests to bifurcate our 5e

1144
01:22:52,702 --> 01:22:55,102
substitute, 5f substitute, 5g

1145
01:23:06,614 --> 01:23:07,715
substitute, 5m, 5u, 5y ended

1146
01:23:07,715 --> 01:23:09,617
supplements, 7d and on 7d

1147
01:23:09,617 --> 01:23:10,718
senator garcia wishes to

1148
01:23:10,718 --> 01:23:13,718
bifurcate but there is a

1149
01:23:13,854 --> 01:23:14,880
deferral requested to know date

1150
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,560
certain.

1151
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:17,992
he's released his request so

1152
01:23:17,992 --> 01:23:19,859
with the setting of the agenda

1153
01:23:19,859 --> 01:23:23,459
7d will be deferred, 7e ended

1154
01:23:23,563 --> 01:23:25,563
supplements, 7f.

1155
01:23:31,871 --> 01:23:34,271
8a3 ended supplements, 8g1,

1156
01:23:38,577 --> 01:23:39,745
8k1, 11a1, 11a4, I will read

1157
01:23:39,745 --> 01:23:43,345
that item with the other first

1158
01:23:45,517 --> 01:23:48,517
readings, 14a2, 14a3 is a

1159
01:24:01,365 --> 01:24:03,267
public hearing and 14a4, a

1160
01:24:03,267 --> 01:24:04,168
motion to set the agenda is in

1161
01:24:04,168 --> 01:24:06,168
order.

1162
01:24:06,170 --> 01:24:07,171
>>chair: motion by commissioner

1163
01:24:07,171 --> 01:24:08,472
gonzalez, second by

1164
01:24:08,472 --> 01:24:10,339
commissioner steinberg, those

1165
01:24:10,339 --> 01:24:12,275
in favor of setting the agenda

1166
01:24:12,275 --> 01:24:14,144
with every single item being

1167
01:24:14,144 --> 01:24:14,310
pulled, signified by saying

1168
01:24:14,310 --> 01:24:16,145
aye.

1169
01:24:16,145 --> 01:24:17,146
Opposed, nay. Should show the

1170
01:24:17,146 --> 01:24:19,146
agenda hereby set.

1171
01:24:19,148 --> 01:24:20,283
>>commissioner gilbert: I had a

1172
01:24:20,283 --> 01:24:22,151
question on 8k1 I had my

1173
01:24:22,151 --> 01:24:22,384
question answered so I will

1174
01:24:22,384 --> 01:24:24,286
release.

1175
01:24:24,286 --> 01:24:25,287
>> it will pass as soon as you

1176
01:24:25,287 --> 01:24:27,156
take a motion.

1177
01:24:27,156 --> 01:24:29,157
>>chair: we all voted.

1178
01:24:29,157 --> 01:24:31,193
>>commissioner gilbert: I move

1179
01:24:31,193 --> 01:24:32,460
8k1.

1180
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:34,162
>>chair: all in favor signify

1181
01:24:34,162 --> 01:24:36,162
by saying aye.

1182
01:24:36,631 --> 01:24:36,831
Opposed, nay., show 8k1 past as

1183
01:24:36,831 --> 01:24:38,831
well.

1184
01:24:49,243 --> 01:24:49,576
I'm going to go into first

1185
01:24:49,576 --> 01:24:51,445
reading items.

1186
01:24:51,445 --> 01:24:52,412
At this time since this should

1187
01:24:52,412 --> 01:24:54,347
be quick.

1188
01:24:54,347 --> 01:24:56,215
So MADAM Attorney please read

1189
01:24:56,215 --> 01:24:58,615
the first reading items.

1190
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,320
And any bifurcations we have.

1191
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,966
>> 4a establishes section 2 436

1192
01:25:13,966 --> 01:25:15,133
of the code creating a

1193
01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:17,133
behavioral health advisory

1194
01:25:17,969 --> 01:25:19,971
board trust fund and providing

1195
01:25:19,971 --> 01:25:21,973
severability inclusion in the

1196
01:25:21,973 --> 01:25:23,975
code and an effective date, 4b

1197
01:25:23,975 --> 01:25:25,430
relates to comprehensive

1198
01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:27,430
development master plan

1199
01:25:55,674 --> 01:25:57,674
providing disposition of

1200
01:25:57,676 --> 01:25:59,676
application cdmp 2021 between

1201
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:00,846
southwest 272 street and 278

1202
01:26:00,846 --> 01:26:02,882
street and between southwest

1203
01:26:02,882 --> 01:26:04,816
157 avenue and 159 avenue filed

1204
01:26:04,816 --> 01:26:06,685
by lennar homes llc and the

1205
01:26:06,685 --> 01:26:08,687
cycle to an end the counties

1206
01:26:08,687 --> 01:26:10,687
comprehensive delegate master

1207
01:26:10,723 --> 01:26:12,692
plan providing severability

1208
01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:14,693
exclusion from the code and an

1209
01:26:14,693 --> 01:26:16,195
effective date, 4 deed grants

1210
01:26:16,195 --> 01:26:17,863
petition of acacia grove

1211
01:26:17,863 --> 01:26:19,766
community development district

1212
01:26:19,766 --> 01:26:21,701
generally bounded as amended on

1213
01:26:21,701 --> 01:26:22,935
the north by southwest 336

1214
01:26:22,935 --> 01:26:24,871
street on the east by southwest

1215
01:26:24,871 --> 01:26:26,706
192 avenue and on the sxsw 340

1216
01:26:26,706 --> 01:26:28,207
street and on the west by

1217
01:26:28,207 --> 01:26:29,876
southwest 197 avenue amending

1218
01:26:29,876 --> 01:26:31,778
the boundaries of the district

1219
01:26:31,778 --> 01:26:33,713
to expand its total acreage by

1220
01:26:33,713 --> 01:26:35,713
approximately 9.88 acres

1221
01:26:35,715 --> 01:26:37,684
providing severability,

1222
01:26:37,684 --> 01:26:38,500
exclusion from the code and an

1223
01:26:38,500 --> 01:26:39,820
effective date.

1224
01:26:39,820 --> 01:26:42,689
4e grants petition of newton

1225
01:26:42,689 --> 01:26:44,689
road community development

1226
01:26:48,862 --> 01:26:50,764
district bounded on the north

1227
01:26:50,764 --> 01:26:51,932
amending the boundaries of the

1228
01:26:51,932 --> 01:26:53,867
district to expand its total

1229
01:26:53,867 --> 01:26:55,867
acreage by approximately 20.87

1230
01:26:56,770 --> 01:26:58,770
acres providing severability

1231
01:26:58,772 --> 01:26:59,940
exclusion from the code and an

1232
01:26:59,940 --> 01:27:01,775
effective date and 14 a one

1233
01:27:01,775 --> 01:27:02,910
relates to zoning and

1234
01:27:02,910 --> 01:27:04,778
out-of-the-way plan in the

1235
01:27:04,778 --> 01:27:05,846
incorporated area amending

1236
01:27:05,846 --> 01:27:07,748
section 133 of the code

1237
01:27:07,748 --> 01:27:09,748
providing reduced minimum

1238
01:27:09,784 --> 01:27:10,985
street with requirements in the

1239
01:27:10,985 --> 01:27:12,987
right-of-way plan for southwest

1240
01:27:12,987 --> 01:27:14,889
47 avenue from southwest 72

1241
01:27:14,889 --> 01:27:16,757
street to southwest 82 street

1242
01:27:16,757 --> 01:27:18,757
providing severability

1243
01:27:18,759 --> 01:27:20,762
exclusion in the code and an

1244
01:27:20,762 --> 01:27:22,960
effective date, those are your

1245
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:23,765
first reading items.

1246
01:27:23,765 --> 01:27:25,765
>>chair: any bifurcations,

1247
01:27:25,867 --> 01:27:26,767
seeing no bifurcations we have

1248
01:27:26,767 --> 01:27:28,767
a motion.

1249
01:27:28,936 --> 01:27:30,938
Moved by commissioner gonzalez,

1250
01:27:30,938 --> 01:27:32,874
second by commissioner regalado

1251
01:27:32,874 --> 01:27:34,742
cohen higgins, clerk please

1252
01:27:34,742 --> 01:27:36,742
call the roll.

1253
01:27:36,744 --> 01:27:38,460
>>commissioner bermudez:

1254
01:27:38,460 --> 01:27:38,212
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

1255
01:27:38,212 --> 01:27:40,212
for.

1256
01:27:40,782 --> 01:27:42,782
>>senator garcia:

1257
01:27:42,784 --> 01:27:44,784
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

1258
01:27:44,953 --> 01:27:46,788
>>commissioner gilbert:

1259
01:27:46,788 --> 01:27:48,788
>>commissioner hardemon: for.

1260
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:50,790
>>commissioner lopez: yes.

1261
01:27:50,793 --> 01:27:52,793
>>commissioner milian orbis:

1262
01:27:52,794 --> 01:27:54,794
>>commissioner regalado: yes.

1263
01:27:54,796 --> 01:27:55,864
>>commissioner steinberg:

1264
01:27:55,864 --> 01:27:57,799
>>chair: I vote yes.

1265
01:27:57,799 --> 01:27:59,340
>> motion passes unanimously.

1266
01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:00,870
>>chair: show first reading

1267
01:28:00,870 --> 01:28:02,805
items past, I'm going to get

1268
01:28:02,805 --> 01:28:04,600
into public hearing items and

1269
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:04,807
take them a little bit out of

1270
01:28:04,807 --> 01:28:06,700
order.

1271
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:07,809
We will do public hearing as

1272
01:28:07,809 --> 01:28:08,911
though order comes as well

1273
01:28:08,911 --> 01:28:10,779
rather than in front.

1274
01:28:10,779 --> 01:28:14,979
I'm going to start if you can

1275
01:28:21,924 --> 01:28:23,580
read 5x and five

1276
01:28:23,580 --> 01:28:24,894
>> yes MR. Chair, 5x is a

1277
01:28:24,894 --> 01:28:26,894
resolution code designating

1278
01:28:26,895 --> 01:28:28,897
that portion of southwest 132nd

1279
01:28:28,897 --> 01:28:30,660
avenue between 104th street and

1280
01:28:30,660 --> 01:28:32,350
south colusa club drive as

1281
01:28:32,350 --> 01:28:33,269
deputy sheriff devon matthew

1282
01:28:33,269 --> 01:28:35,400
way and it supplement.

1283
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,390
And 5y names the football field

1284
01:28:37,390 --> 01:28:38,975
at devon airpark as the deputy

1285
01:28:38,975 --> 01:28:39,910
sheriff devon matthew field and

1286
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:41,910
it supplement.

1287
01:28:41,912 --> 01:28:45,512
And this is a public hearing

1288
01:28:46,150 --> 01:28:47,160
items, I do have requests to

1289
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,217
bifurcate.

1290
01:28:48,217 --> 01:28:50,200
>>chair: I will open public

1291
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,200
hearing at this time, don't

1292
01:28:57,928 --> 01:28:59,129
have anyone signed up to speak

1293
01:28:59,129 --> 01:29:00,970
but if the sheriff wants to say

1294
01:29:00,970 --> 01:29:01,932
a few words.

1295
01:29:01,932 --> 01:29:03,900
If the family wants to say a

1296
01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:05,101
few words this would be the

1297
01:29:05,101 --> 01:29:07,370
opportunity for you all to say

1298
01:29:07,370 --> 01:29:09,500
a couple words, MADAME Sheriff.

1299
01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:10,908
>> good morning CHAIRMAN, good

1300
01:29:10,908 --> 01:29:12,142
morning all commissioners

1301
01:29:12,142 --> 01:29:14,440
elected officials and everyone

1302
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:17,440
who came here this morning.

1303
01:29:20,285 --> 01:29:21,419
This is an important moment for

1304
01:29:21,419 --> 01:29:22,286
us and our agency and our

1305
01:29:22,286 --> 01:29:23,521
community.

1306
01:29:23,521 --> 01:29:25,489
Devon jaramillo gave his life

1307
01:29:25,489 --> 01:29:27,358
in service to this community

1308
01:29:27,358 --> 01:29:28,726
and this is a small moment we

1309
01:29:28,726 --> 01:29:30,395
can honor him, honor his

1310
01:29:30,395 --> 01:29:31,830
family, honor his sacrifice and

1311
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:35,430
his memory for years to come.

1312
01:29:44,809 --> 01:29:46,711
We are very grateful for this

1313
01:29:46,711 --> 01:29:46,977
board to consider this

1314
01:29:46,977 --> 01:29:48,881
proposal.

1315
01:29:48,881 --> 01:29:50,883
And I humbly ask on behalf of

1316
01:29:50,883 --> 01:29:52,784
the family, on behalf of every

1317
01:29:52,784 --> 01:29:54,686
man and woman who works for the

1318
01:29:54,686 --> 01:29:55,854
miami-dade sheriff's office

1319
01:29:55,854 --> 01:29:57,789
that you approve and move

1320
01:29:57,789 --> 01:29:58,957
forward with the naming of the

1321
01:29:58,957 --> 01:30:00,859
street and of the park for

1322
01:30:00,859 --> 01:30:01,793
devon jaramillo, thank you very

1323
01:30:01,793 --> 01:30:03,695
much.

1324
01:30:03,695 --> 01:30:04,863
>>chair: does anyone from the

1325
01:30:04,863 --> 01:30:06,832
family want to say anything.

1326
01:30:06,832 --> 01:30:09,832
>> good morning, my name is

1327
01:30:10,569 --> 01:30:11,637
david jaramillo, the father of

1328
01:30:11,637 --> 01:30:13,637
devon matthew jaramillo.

1329
01:30:15,507 --> 01:30:17,507
CHAIRMAN Rodriguez and

1330
01:30:19,846 --> 01:30:21,681
commissioner regalado, I want

1331
01:30:21,681 --> 01:30:25,281
to thank you all for taking

1332
01:30:29,622 --> 01:30:31,457
this motion into consideration,

1333
01:30:31,457 --> 01:30:33,526
and ask the support you guys

1334
01:30:33,526 --> 01:30:35,895
and the community have given to

1335
01:30:35,895 --> 01:30:39,495
the family in keeping my son's

1336
01:30:40,667 --> 01:30:44,867
spirit alive and I just want to

1337
01:30:44,938 --> 01:30:46,390
say thank you on behalf of his

1338
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:49,639
mother and the rest of our

1339
01:30:50,944 --> 01:30:52,979
family here and our brothers

1340
01:30:52,979 --> 01:30:54,981
and sisters in the back, thank

1341
01:30:54,981 --> 01:30:58,718
you so much and I hope you will

1342
01:30:58,718 --> 01:30:58,885
pass this unanimously, thank

1343
01:30:58,885 --> 01:31:00,885
you.

1344
01:31:04,191 --> 01:31:06,360
>>chair: thank you david.

1345
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,360
So public hearing is officially

1346
01:31:12,366 --> 01:31:13,601
closed, I'm sure that your

1347
01:31:13,601 --> 01:31:14,501
cosponsor, I will recognize you

1348
01:31:14,501 --> 01:31:16,501
in a minute.

1349
01:31:18,171 --> 01:31:22,371
I want to say devon wasn't just

1350
01:31:23,944 --> 01:31:25,913
born here and raised here but

1351
01:31:25,913 --> 01:31:27,815
he ultimately gave his life

1352
01:31:27,815 --> 01:31:28,816
protecting this community that

1353
01:31:28,816 --> 01:31:29,684
he so very loved.

1354
01:31:29,684 --> 01:31:32,684
Service was in his blood.

1355
01:31:34,221 --> 01:31:36,257
He grew up in law enforcement

1356
01:31:36,257 --> 01:31:38,250
they law enforcement family and

1357
01:31:38,250 --> 01:31:39,193
followed in the footsteps of

1358
01:31:39,193 --> 01:31:42,193
his father david a retired

1359
01:31:44,650 --> 01:31:45,967
police detective and devon went

1360
01:31:45,967 --> 01:31:47,268
on to proudly wear his father's

1361
01:31:47,268 --> 01:31:49,170
badge number 1765.

1362
01:31:49,170 --> 01:31:52,170
That david, you carried your

1363
01:32:05,687 --> 01:32:07,556
whole career.

1364
01:32:07,556 --> 01:32:09,558
His heart for helping others

1365
01:32:09,558 --> 01:32:10,660
started early before becoming a

1366
01:32:10,660 --> 01:32:12,561
deputy volunteer in this

1367
01:32:12,561 --> 01:32:14,561
community including helping

1368
01:32:14,563 --> 01:32:15,764
collect and distribute

1369
01:32:15,764 --> 01:32:17,799
christmas toys to kids in need,

1370
01:32:17,799 --> 01:32:19,569
he served with distinction at

1371
01:32:19,569 --> 01:32:21,671
the coral gables police

1372
01:32:21,671 --> 01:32:22,805
department before joining the

1373
01:32:22,805 --> 01:32:24,706
sheriff's office where he came

1374
01:32:24,706 --> 01:32:26,642
home to serve the kendall

1375
01:32:26,642 --> 01:32:27,843
community where he grew up but

1376
01:32:27,843 --> 01:32:29,745
devon was more than a deputy,

1377
01:32:29,745 --> 01:32:31,649
he was a loving son, a brother,

1378
01:32:31,649 --> 01:32:33,582
friend and colleague and he was

1379
01:32:33,582 --> 01:32:34,783
someone people could count on,

1380
01:32:34,783 --> 01:32:35,818
someone who looked out for the

1381
01:32:35,818 --> 01:32:37,818
people he loved.

1382
01:32:37,820 --> 01:32:39,623
Those who knew him remember the

1383
01:32:39,623 --> 01:32:40,757
simple moments that made him

1384
01:32:40,757 --> 01:32:41,725
who he was.

1385
01:32:41,725 --> 01:32:44,125
Riding motorcycles with his

1386
01:32:58,700 --> 01:32:59,943
dad, stopping for a cafecito

1387
01:32:59,943 --> 01:33:00,244
and spending time with family

1388
01:33:00,244 --> 01:33:01,812
and friends.

1389
01:33:01,812 --> 01:33:02,946
Is life was far

1390
01:33:02,946 --> 01:33:04,470
beyond social work and his

1391
01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:05,949
impact will last forever.

1392
01:33:05,949 --> 01:33:07,817
He represented the best of

1393
01:33:07,817 --> 01:33:08,985
miami-dade, a young man who

1394
01:33:08,985 --> 01:33:10,987
honored his family, loved his

1395
01:33:10,987 --> 01:33:12,923
community and made the ultimate

1396
01:33:12,923 --> 01:33:13,924
sacrifice protecting the place

1397
01:33:13,924 --> 01:33:15,924
he called home.

1398
01:33:15,959 --> 01:33:17,927
We will remember his service,

1399
01:33:17,927 --> 01:33:19,897
remember and honor his service

1400
01:33:19,897 --> 01:33:21,320
and never forget him really we

1401
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:22,800
unfortunately hear about

1402
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,802
passings of law enforcement

1403
01:33:24,802 --> 01:33:25,970
officers, first responders more

1404
01:33:25,970 --> 01:33:27,971
often than we'd like, the

1405
01:33:27,971 --> 01:33:29,808
sheriff was at the forefront

1406
01:33:29,808 --> 01:33:30,975
and it impacts the entire

1407
01:33:30,975 --> 01:33:32,877
community when something

1408
01:33:32,877 --> 01:33:33,978
happens and for me devon was

1409
01:33:33,978 --> 01:33:35,946
the first since I've been

1410
01:33:35,946 --> 01:33:37,815
elected that I knew and called

1411
01:33:37,815 --> 01:33:38,949
friend so it was more personal

1412
01:33:38,949 --> 01:33:40,919
and special to me and he

1413
01:33:40,919 --> 01:33:42,821
definitely hit a different part

1414
01:33:42,821 --> 01:33:44,550
of my heart so that's why

1415
01:33:44,550 --> 01:33:45,923
commissioner regalado and

1416
01:33:45,923 --> 01:33:47,792
myself and this board and this

1417
01:33:47,792 --> 01:33:49,260
commission is honoring him,

1418
01:33:49,260 --> 01:33:52,626
naming a street and a football

1419
01:33:54,465 --> 01:33:56,301
field devon jaramillo away and

1420
01:33:56,301 --> 01:33:58,303
with your support we will get

1421
01:33:58,303 --> 01:34:00,305
that past and with that I will

1422
01:34:00,305 --> 01:34:01,573
transfer to my cosponsor

1423
01:34:01,573 --> 01:34:03,308
commissioner regalado, thank

1424
01:34:03,308 --> 01:34:04,576
you for doing this.

1425
01:34:04,576 --> 01:34:06,511
>>commissioner regalado: thank

1426
01:34:06,511 --> 01:34:08,480
you for your support and to the

1427
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:10,382
family and all the officers

1428
01:34:10,382 --> 01:34:12,317
here and the residence, one of

1429
01:34:12,317 --> 01:34:15,917
the saddest things we do is

1430
01:34:21,527 --> 01:34:23,495
name streets.

1431
01:34:23,495 --> 01:34:23,729
It's usually not for happy

1432
01:34:23,729 --> 01:34:25,397
reasons.

1433
01:34:25,397 --> 01:34:26,532
And for us it's such a

1434
01:34:26,532 --> 01:34:28,466
tremendous loss and as the

1435
01:34:28,466 --> 01:34:30,403
CHAIRMAN Mentioned for those of

1436
01:34:30,403 --> 01:34:31,571
us who knew devon and his

1437
01:34:31,571 --> 01:34:32,371
family he was such an amazing

1438
01:34:32,371 --> 01:34:33,639
light.

1439
01:34:33,639 --> 01:34:35,541
It's an honor to honor him with

1440
01:34:35,541 --> 01:34:37,476
this street and the field and

1441
01:34:37,476 --> 01:34:39,378
my hope is when people drive

1442
01:34:39,378 --> 01:34:43,160
down and see the name on the

1443
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:44,884
street they will google it and

1444
01:34:44,884 --> 01:34:46,886
learn about him and future

1445
01:34:46,886 --> 01:34:48,540
generations will also honor his

1446
01:34:48,540 --> 01:34:49,856
service and for all the kids

1447
01:34:49,856 --> 01:34:51,570
that play on that same field

1448
01:34:51,570 --> 01:34:53,250
they will grow up knowing who

1449
01:34:53,250 --> 01:34:54,294
he was and the great sacrifice

1450
01:34:54,294 --> 01:34:56,294
he made.

1451
01:34:56,296 --> 01:34:58,197
i know nothing can make this

1452
01:34:58,197 --> 01:35:00,767
easier but you have respect and

1453
01:35:00,767 --> 01:35:02,602
admiration for your sacrifice

1454
01:35:02,602 --> 01:35:03,870
and for your families

1455
01:35:03,870 --> 01:35:06,270
dedication to public service.

1456
01:35:22,456 --> 01:35:24,425
He was an outstanding human and

1457
01:35:24,425 --> 01:35:26,260
his parents, that's all we can

1458
01:35:26,260 --> 01:35:28,295
do is raise good humans and

1459
01:35:28,295 --> 01:35:29,530
hope we make the world a better

1460
01:35:29,530 --> 01:35:31,399
place and in this case you did

1461
01:35:31,399 --> 01:35:33,267
that and so much more because

1462
01:35:33,267 --> 01:35:34,535
not only make the world a

1463
01:35:34,535 --> 01:35:36,437
better place, he reminds us all

1464
01:35:36,437 --> 01:35:38,271
of the sacrifice and love and

1465
01:35:38,271 --> 01:35:39,507
heart that goes into serving

1466
01:35:39,507 --> 01:35:40,475
the community so thank you, it

1467
01:35:40,475 --> 01:35:42,277
is an honor.

1468
01:35:42,277 --> 01:35:43,510
District 7 is blessed to have

1469
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:45,279
seen him grow up and honor him

1470
01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:46,514
and his legacy.

1471
01:35:46,514 --> 01:35:48,416
>>chair: do you want to make

1472
01:35:48,416 --> 01:35:50,285
the motion to move 5x and 5y?

1473
01:35:50,285 --> 01:35:52,285
Seconded by commissioner

1474
01:35:52,287 --> 01:35:54,287
steinberg, commissioner

1475
01:35:54,289 --> 01:35:55,823
gonzalez you are recognized.

1476
01:35:55,823 --> 01:35:58,223
>>commissioner gonzalez: I like

1477
01:35:58,292 --> 01:35:59,494
to thank the sponsoring

1478
01:35:59,494 --> 01:36:01,296
commissioner and I would like

1479
01:36:01,296 --> 01:36:02,430
to ask to be included as a

1480
01:36:02,430 --> 01:36:04,266
co-prime sponsor on this and

1481
01:36:04,266 --> 01:36:04,666
I'm sure my colleagues would

1482
01:36:04,666 --> 01:36:06,434
like do the same.

1483
01:36:06,434 --> 01:36:08,336
>commissioner regalado:

1484
01:36:08,336 --> 01:36:09,538
anyone who wants to join as

1485
01:36:09,538 --> 01:36:12,538
cosponsor raise your hand there

1486
01:36:17,145 --> 01:36:18,146
are already 2 co-prime's so

1487
01:36:18,146 --> 01:36:20,146
cosponsor.

1488
01:36:23,190 --> 01:36:24,820
>>chair: if it can be cosponsor

1489
01:36:24,820 --> 01:36:25,988
I'm okay but I'm not sure if

1490
01:36:25,988 --> 01:36:29,588
you can have more than one

1491
01:36:30,192 --> 01:36:31,460
co-prime, so unanimously.

1492
01:36:31,460 --> 01:36:33,295
>>commissioner regalado: if we

1493
01:36:33,295 --> 01:36:35,331
are going to make one more

1494
01:36:35,331 --> 01:36:37,731
person co-prime that didn't

1495
01:36:40,603 --> 01:36:41,470
draft we should make everybody

1496
01:36:41,470 --> 01:36:42,505
co-prime.

1497
01:36:42,505 --> 01:36:43,706
He whole purpose of

1498
01:36:43,706 --> 01:36:45,708
co-prime is you are drafting

1499
01:36:45,708 --> 01:36:49,308
but it's fine if everyone wants

1500
01:36:52,682 --> 01:36:53,917
to be co-prime.

1501
01:36:53,917 --> 01:36:56,652
>>chair: I'm fine with it, this

1502
01:36:56,652 --> 01:36:57,820
is personal to the community so

1503
01:36:57,820 --> 01:36:58,854
everybody who wants to be a

1504
01:36:58,854 --> 01:37:00,691
cosponsor for sure.

1505
01:37:00,691 --> 01:37:04,291
If someone wants to be a

1506
01:37:07,229 --> 01:37:08,398
co-prime, I'm okay with it.

1507
01:37:08,398 --> 01:37:10,233
>>commissioner regalado:

1508
01:37:10,233 --> 01:37:10,433
everyone is co-prime, that's

1509
01:37:10,433 --> 01:37:12,336
fine.

1510
01:37:12,336 --> 01:37:14,237
We all agreed and we should

1511
01:37:14,237 --> 01:37:15,505
just vote.

1512
01:37:15,505 --> 01:37:17,407
>>commissioner gonzalez: if I

1513
01:37:17,407 --> 01:37:17,673
can have a point of personal

1514
01:37:17,673 --> 01:37:19,209
privilege.

1515
01:37:19,209 --> 01:37:21,609
Here's a lot I

1516
01:37:21,612 --> 01:37:22,880
want to say.

1517
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,648
And I wish this would have came

1518
01:37:24,648 --> 01:37:26,648
up sooner.

1519
01:37:33,724 --> 01:37:35,926
I see a lot of deputies here

1520
01:37:35,926 --> 01:37:37,926
today.

1521
01:37:44,735 --> 01:37:45,770
And devon was a young man that

1522
01:37:45,770 --> 01:37:47,770
gave everything.

1523
01:37:48,973 --> 01:37:50,973
For this community.

1524
01:37:51,943 --> 01:37:55,543
Today, we honor his legacy by

1525
01:37:58,515 --> 01:38:02,115
naming a street after a hero.

1526
01:38:04,622 --> 01:38:04,856
But we are not just honoring a

1527
01:38:04,856 --> 01:38:06,691
street.

1528
01:38:06,691 --> 01:38:08,726
We are honoring a legacy that

1529
01:38:08,726 --> 01:38:11,630
he is instilling into this

1530
01:38:11,630 --> 01:38:12,964
community, into this county and

1531
01:38:12,964 --> 01:38:13,999
into every single deputy that

1532
01:38:13,999 --> 01:38:15,999
wears the badge.

1533
01:38:17,435 --> 01:38:19,835
Because bravery doesn't mean

1534
01:38:21,574 --> 01:38:23,974
that you're not afraid.

1535
01:38:27,979 --> 01:38:29,281
Bravery does not mean that you

1536
01:38:29,281 --> 01:38:32,281
don't recognize the risks that

1537
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,520
you take every single day that

1538
01:38:39,526 --> 01:38:41,926
you wear the badge.

1539
01:38:43,562 --> 01:38:47,162
I think the best example of

1540
01:38:48,133 --> 01:38:50,170
that is in the bible.

1541
01:38:50,170 --> 01:38:50,570
Christ is praying in the garden

1542
01:38:50,570 --> 01:38:52,570
of gethsemane.

1543
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:54,400
This is GOD.

1544
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,400
He's praying.

1545
01:38:56,976 --> 01:38:58,845
Nd he's asking

1546
01:38:58,845 --> 01:39:03,450
that if this cup can be taken

1547
01:39:04,984 --> 01:39:05,185
from him, that it please be

1548
01:39:05,185 --> 01:39:07,185
taken.

1549
01:39:07,653 --> 01:39:11,253
But that GOD's will be done.

1550
01:39:12,826 --> 01:39:13,760
And then he goes on to do what

1551
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,194
is necessary.

1552
01:39:15,194 --> 01:39:17,230
That's what it means to wear

1553
01:39:17,230 --> 01:39:19,230
the badge.

1554
01:39:29,944 --> 01:39:30,177
It doesn't mean you're not

1555
01:39:30,177 --> 01:39:32,790
afraid.

1556
01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:34,114
It means despite being afraid

1557
01:39:34,114 --> 01:39:35,949
you run towards danger because

1558
01:39:35,949 --> 01:39:37,184
it's the right thing to do.

1559
01:39:37,184 --> 01:39:37,951
Because it's what the job calls

1560
01:39:37,951 --> 01:39:39,118
for.

1561
01:39:39,118 --> 01:39:40,121
That is a legacy that will

1562
01:39:40,121 --> 01:39:42,890
forever carry on.

1563
01:39:42,890 --> 01:39:45,689
It's not just a street naming.

1564
01:39:48,595 --> 01:39:49,764
Devon will forever be

1565
01:39:49,764 --> 01:39:50,732
remembered because he lived

1566
01:39:50,732 --> 01:39:52,700
that legacy.

1567
01:39:52,700 --> 01:39:54,635
As every single officer that is

1568
01:39:54,635 --> 01:39:56,837
here is in miami-dade and

1569
01:39:56,837 --> 01:39:58,380
across the country and monies

1570
01:39:58,380 --> 01:39:59,941
that legacy and learns from

1571
01:39:59,941 --> 01:40:00,175
that legacy and lives that

1572
01:40:00,175 --> 01:40:02,175
legacy.

1573
01:40:08,549 --> 01:40:08,715
To the family, we mourn with

1574
01:40:08,715 --> 01:40:10,715
you.

1575
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:16,991
We love you.

1576
01:40:16,991 --> 01:40:17,992
And we will forever be indebted

1577
01:40:17,992 --> 01:40:19,992
to devon sacrifice.

1578
01:40:20,129 --> 01:40:20,295
Od bless

1579
01:40:20,295 --> 01:40:22,295
you.

1580
01:40:28,469 --> 01:40:30,406
And thank you.

1581
01:40:30,406 --> 01:40:32,741
>> having a motion and the

1582
01:40:32,741 --> 01:40:36,341
second on the table, all in

1583
01:40:39,114 --> 01:40:41,830
favor of approving 5x and five

1584
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:44,683
line which names the street and

1585
01:40:47,589 --> 01:40:48,757
part signify by saying aye.

1586
01:40:48,757 --> 01:40:50,593
Opposed, nay. Show the item

1587
01:40:50,593 --> 01:40:51,961
passed unanimously,

1588
01:40:51,961 --> 01:40:53,961
congratulations.

1589
01:40:53,963 --> 01:40:56,866
This is not something to

1590
01:40:56,866 --> 01:40:58,834
extremely be happy about find

1591
01:40:58,834 --> 01:41:02,434
happiness in the fact that this

1592
01:41:05,908 --> 01:41:06,275
community honors devon

1593
01:41:06,275 --> 01:41:08,440
jaramillo.

1594
01:41:08,440 --> 01:41:10,460
Don't leave because I'd like to

1595
01:41:10,460 --> 01:41:11,881
see you before you guys leave,

1596
01:41:11,881 --> 01:41:12,810
I will step aside, we love you

1597
01:41:12,810 --> 01:41:13,383
guys.

1598
01:41:13,383 --> 01:41:15,385
Next item that I want to call

1599
01:41:15,385 --> 01:41:18,985
met an attorney if you would

1600
01:41:27,230 --> 01:41:27,396
read it into the record, item

1601
01:41:27,396 --> 01:41:29,396
5c.

1602
01:41:29,433 --> 01:41:31,433
>> resolution code designating

1603
01:41:32,236 --> 01:41:33,404
that portion of southwest 84th

1604
01:41:33,404 --> 01:41:35,238
street between west 97th road

1605
01:41:35,238 --> 01:41:37,638
southwest 103rd avenue as

1606
01:41:43,547 --> 01:41:45,549
sergeant david caruso way.

1607
01:41:45,549 --> 01:41:47,484
>>chair: I need to go ahead and

1608
01:41:47,484 --> 01:41:47,784
open up public hearing at this

1609
01:41:47,784 --> 01:41:49,784
time.

1610
01:41:49,787 --> 01:41:52,787
Registered to speak on public

1611
01:41:56,427 --> 01:41:58,395
hearing but sergeant caruso's

1612
01:41:58,395 --> 01:41:59,464
wife eileen is present, did you

1613
01:41:59,464 --> 01:42:00,498
want to say anything.

1614
01:42:00,498 --> 01:42:02,300
You don't have to.

1615
01:42:02,300 --> 01:42:05,300
But I will take this

1616
01:42:07,271 --> 01:42:08,539
opportunity and I'll recognize

1617
01:42:08,539 --> 01:42:10,375
commissioner gonzalez who is

1618
01:42:10,375 --> 01:42:13,375
my: prime sponsor on this

1619
01:42:20,752 --> 01:42:21,987
side.

1620
01:42:21,987 --> 01:42:23,922
But I was proud to sponsor this

1621
01:42:23,922 --> 01:42:25,890
item as it's in my district.

1622
01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:26,891
Honoring the life and service

1623
01:42:26,891 --> 01:42:28,759
of sergeant caruso.

1624
01:42:28,759 --> 01:42:29,795
Who was tragically killed

1625
01:42:29,795 --> 01:42:30,762
OCTOBER 28, 2025 in a

1626
01:42:30,762 --> 01:42:30,996
motorcycle crash.

1627
01:42:30,996 --> 01:42:32,996
E was just

1628
01:42:34,766 --> 01:42:36,234
33 years old.

1629
01:42:36,234 --> 01:42:36,768
Still had his whole life ahead

1630
01:42:36,768 --> 01:42:38,703
of him.

1631
01:42:38,703 --> 01:42:39,939
He probably served the miami

1632
01:42:39,939 --> 01:42:41,774
beach police department 10

1633
01:42:41,774 --> 01:42:43,709
years and was known for his

1634
01:42:43,709 --> 01:42:45,709
professionalism compassion and

1635
01:42:52,585 --> 01:42:54,587
commitment to his community.

1636
01:42:54,587 --> 01:42:56,422
His fellow officers remember

1637
01:42:56,422 --> 01:42:58,424
him as someone who always

1638
01:42:58,424 --> 01:42:59,525
helped others, offered guidance

1639
01:42:59,525 --> 01:43:01,594
and went the extra mile.

1640
01:43:01,594 --> 01:43:03,663
He understood public safety is

1641
01:43:03,663 --> 01:43:05,498
about more than enforcement,

1642
01:43:05,498 --> 01:43:06,598
it's about trust dignity in

1643
01:43:06,598 --> 01:43:08,534
this very community.

1644
01:43:08,534 --> 01:43:10,437
And beyond the badge he was a

1645
01:43:10,437 --> 01:43:12,439
devoted husband father son

1646
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:13,439
brother and a friend who left a

1647
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,439
lasting impact.

1648
01:43:15,441 --> 01:43:16,709
This resolution code designates

1649
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:18,544
southwest 84th street between

1650
01:43:18,544 --> 01:43:20,944
97th road southwest 103rd

1651
01:43:26,119 --> 01:43:27,287
avenue and commission district

1652
01:43:27,287 --> 01:43:28,320
10 and nine asked sergeant

1653
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,320
david caruso way.

1654
01:43:30,357 --> 01:43:32,292
This is a lasting tribute to a

1655
01:43:32,292 --> 01:43:34,127
man who dedicated his life to

1656
01:43:34,127 --> 01:43:36,396
serving others and ensuring

1657
01:43:36,396 --> 01:43:37,497
service sacrifice and legacy

1658
01:43:37,497 --> 01:43:39,897
will never be forgotten.

1659
01:43:40,267 --> 01:43:42,269
And with that my team has every

1660
01:43:42,269 --> 01:43:43,570
opportunity to visit with the

1661
01:43:43,570 --> 01:43:44,471
family and the beautiful girls,

1662
01:43:44,471 --> 01:43:46,471
is it 2 girls?

1663
01:43:47,774 --> 01:43:52,574
One girl and a boy, I saw them

1664
01:43:54,515 --> 01:43:56,515
riding their bikes.

1665
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:58,519
We keep track through social

1666
01:43:58,519 --> 01:43:59,419
media, that's a powerful tool

1667
01:43:59,419 --> 01:44:01,419
these days.

1668
01:44:03,324 --> 01:44:04,659
Beautiful children that I know

1669
01:44:04,659 --> 01:44:06,227
he was raising very well.

1670
01:44:06,227 --> 01:44:08,627
He will be missed.

1671
01:44:09,531 --> 01:44:11,531
Commissioner gonzalez.

1672
01:44:11,699 --> 01:44:13,699
>>commissioner gonzalez: thank

1673
01:44:14,969 --> 01:44:16,969
you MR. Chair.

1674
01:44:17,710 --> 01:44:20,710
Eileen, I didn't know david.

1675
01:44:24,145 --> 01:44:26,214
I didn't know him.

1676
01:44:26,214 --> 01:44:28,250
But he impacted my life and I'm

1677
01:44:28,250 --> 01:44:29,316
going to tell you why because I

1678
01:44:29,316 --> 01:44:32,254
think you need to know.

1679
01:44:32,254 --> 01:44:34,856
To me personally, the most

1680
01:44:34,856 --> 01:44:39,560
important thing is to try to be

1681
01:44:44,566 --> 01:44:45,767
a good man.

1682
01:44:45,767 --> 01:44:47,669
In the bible it says there is

1683
01:44:47,669 --> 01:44:49,572
no good men but GOD but to try

1684
01:44:49,572 --> 01:44:52,207
to be a person that tries, that

1685
01:44:52,207 --> 01:44:54,760
is a life worth living.

1686
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:55,544
I'm not going to talk about

1687
01:44:55,544 --> 01:44:57,413
dave's career.

1688
01:44:57,413 --> 01:44:58,680
I'm going to talk about the

1689
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,280
impact he made with many people

1690
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,288
that called me and told me how

1691
01:45:06,288 --> 01:45:09,288
he led them to christ.

1692
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:14,931
Not by forcing them, not by

1693
01:45:14,931 --> 01:45:18,531
citing bible verses like I do

1694
01:45:18,767 --> 01:45:22,338
but simply by being a good man.

1695
01:45:22,338 --> 01:45:25,708
That's a legacy for his kids.

1696
01:45:25,708 --> 01:45:28,708
That's legacy for this world.

1697
01:45:29,480 --> 01:45:33,680
And as a man, that's the type

1698
01:45:35,685 --> 01:45:39,885
of legacy I would love to leave

1699
01:45:40,570 --> 01:45:40,291
when I get a chance to go to

1700
01:45:40,291 --> 01:45:42,291
christ.

1701
01:45:45,295 --> 01:45:46,329
there's a story in the bible

1702
01:45:46,329 --> 01:45:48,329
about stephen.

1703
01:45:51,635 --> 01:45:53,571
He's very young.

1704
01:45:53,571 --> 01:45:54,672
He's only mentioned for like 2

1705
01:45:54,672 --> 01:45:56,206
chapters, act six and act

1706
01:45:56,206 --> 01:45:57,274
seven.

1707
01:45:57,274 --> 01:46:00,874
And he makes one of the

1708
01:46:01,345 --> 01:46:01,579
greatest speeches sharing the

1709
01:46:01,579 --> 01:46:03,579
gospel.

1710
01:46:04,582 --> 01:46:08,182
And in the crowd right before

1711
01:46:09,453 --> 01:46:13,653
he passes is a man named saul

1712
01:46:13,891 --> 01:46:16,291
who later becomes paul.

1713
01:46:17,995 --> 01:46:19,998
Writes about 60% of the new

1714
01:46:19,998 --> 01:46:21,566
testament and brings both jews

1715
01:46:21,566 --> 01:46:21,800
and gentiles and romans to

1716
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:23,800
christ.

1717
01:46:29,741 --> 01:46:30,709
2 chapters.

1718
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:31,276
That's impact.

1719
01:46:31,276 --> 01:46:33,276
Dave had impact.

1720
01:46:36,481 --> 01:46:38,817
We feel you, we love you.

1721
01:46:38,817 --> 01:46:42,417
And we will forever be grateful

1722
01:46:42,554 --> 01:46:45,554
for his sacrifice, thank you.

1723
01:46:47,259 --> 01:46:49,659
>>chair: thank you commissioner

1724
01:46:50,290 --> 01:46:52,429
and with that commissioner

1725
01:46:54,990 --> 01:46:55,670
gonzalez would you move the

1726
01:46:55,670 --> 01:46:56,335
item.

1727
01:46:56,335 --> 01:46:56,535
>>commissioner gonzalez: so

1728
01:46:56,535 --> 01:46:58,535
moved.

1729
01:46:59,710 --> 01:47:00,139
>>chair: second by commissioner

1730
01:47:00,139 --> 01:47:01,174
steinberg, you want to

1731
01:47:01,174 --> 01:47:03,174
cosponsor as well?

1732
01:47:04,610 --> 01:47:06,478
The entire dais are cosponsors.

1733
01:47:06,478 --> 01:47:06,645
You guys can prime this one

1734
01:47:06,645 --> 01:47:08,645
too.

1735
01:47:08,981 --> 01:47:12,180
With that all in favor signify

1736
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:14,180
by saying aye.

1737
01:47:19,458 --> 01:47:20,726
Opposed, nay. Show the item

1738
01:47:20,726 --> 01:47:22,462
past and street naming approved

1739
01:47:22,462 --> 01:47:24,462
by unanimous vote.

1740
01:47:28,868 --> 01:47:30,404
With that, I'll have the

1741
01:47:30,404 --> 01:47:32,390
attorney move into the rest of

1742
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:33,306
the five is but I want to thank

1743
01:47:33,306 --> 01:47:35,175
both for being present, I know

1744
01:47:35,175 --> 01:47:36,976
the drive is not easy to come

1745
01:47:36,976 --> 01:47:38,144
up town but it's very

1746
01:47:38,144 --> 01:47:41,144
meaningful that you all drove

1747
01:47:44,184 --> 01:47:45,318
down here so I appreciate it

1748
01:47:45,318 --> 01:47:49,518
and if I'm able to catch a

1749
01:47:51,625 --> 01:47:53,627
couple minutes if I could step

1750
01:47:53,627 --> 01:47:54,327
aside to say goodbye to you

1751
01:47:54,327 --> 01:47:55,596
before you leave.

1752
01:47:55,596 --> 01:47:59,660
Work your way towards the back

1753
01:47:59,660 --> 01:48:01,636
or start, you could stay

1754
01:48:01,636 --> 01:48:04,505
whatever you guys want we will

1755
01:48:04,505 --> 01:48:06,505
be moving on.

1756
01:48:07,975 --> 01:48:11,575
Thank you guys, GOD bless you

1757
01:48:14,282 --> 01:48:14,448
all and I'm glad you guys made

1758
01:48:14,448 --> 01:48:16,350
it.

1759
01:48:16,350 --> 01:48:17,818
MADAM Attorney, should I do

1760
01:48:17,818 --> 01:48:19,286
public hearing for the rest of

1761
01:48:19,286 --> 01:48:20,522
the fives at this time.

1762
01:48:20,522 --> 01:48:24,122
>> would you like me to read

1763
01:48:25,159 --> 01:48:26,327
all the titles?

1764
01:48:26,327 --> 01:48:28,328
MR. Chair, 5a substitute

1765
01:48:28,328 --> 01:48:30,232
relating to hospital mandatory

1766
01:48:30,232 --> 01:48:32,632
payments amending article 4 and

1767
01:48:33,167 --> 01:48:35,167
chapter 18 revising definitions

1768
01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:45,480
authorizing electronic delivery

1769
01:48:45,480 --> 01:48:47,415
of documents, recognizing

1770
01:48:47,415 --> 01:48:49,284
waivers granted by the center

1771
01:48:49,284 --> 01:48:51,287
for medicaid services expanding

1772
01:48:51,287 --> 01:48:52,421
scope of medicaid supplemental

1773
01:48:52,421 --> 01:48:54,289
payment programs revising

1774
01:48:54,289 --> 01:48:56,289
addition review authorizing

1775
01:48:56,291 --> 01:48:58,260
payment plans, authorizing

1776
01:48:58,260 --> 01:49:00,296
suspension or termination of

1777
01:49:00,296 --> 01:49:01,464
payments by resolution making

1778
01:49:01,464 --> 01:49:03,265
technical and conforming

1779
01:49:03,265 --> 01:49:04,433
changes and providing

1780
01:49:04,433 --> 01:49:06,368
severability and an effective

1781
01:49:06,368 --> 01:49:08,270
date and supplement, 5b bruce

1782
01:49:08,270 --> 01:49:09,505
issuance by capital trust

1783
01:49:09,505 --> 01:49:11,474
authority of its revenue bonds

1784
01:49:11,474 --> 01:49:13,342
in an amount not to exceed $155

1785
01:49:13,342 --> 01:49:15,278
million for the benefit of bh

1786
01:49:15,278 --> 01:49:17,278
wellness foundation southern

1787
01:49:17,279 --> 01:49:18,480
wins hospital, southern wins

1788
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:20,383
hospital llc and 4225 llc to

1789
01:49:20,383 --> 01:49:22,352
fund a plan to finance which

1790
01:49:22,352 --> 01:49:24,453
includes acquisition of sinai

1791
01:49:24,453 --> 01:49:26,255
wins hospital, 5d declares

1792
01:49:26,255 --> 01:49:29,255
counties a surplus to include

1793
01:49:30,260 --> 01:49:32,260
such properties authorizing

1794
01:49:32,620 --> 01:49:33,196
conveyance to habitat for

1795
01:49:33,196 --> 01:49:35,640
humanity of greater miami and

1796
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,330
lead equity development

1797
01:49:37,330 --> 01:49:39,680
incorporated for the purpose of

1798
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:40,204
developing affordable housing

1799
01:49:40,204 --> 01:49:43,973
to be sold to low low or

1800
01:49:43,973 --> 01:49:45,973
moderate income households.

1801
01:49:45,975 --> 01:49:48,100
funny e substitute relates to

1802
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:50,100
county procurement implementing

1803
01:49:50,781 --> 01:49:51,949
in whole or part multiple

1804
01:49:51,949 --> 01:49:53,784
recommendations for the final

1805
01:49:53,784 --> 01:49:55,510
report of the special task

1806
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:57,451
force to reduce inefficiencies

1807
01:49:57,788 --> 01:49:58,989
in procurement relating to bid

1808
01:49:58,989 --> 01:49:59,890
protest amending section 2 b

1809
01:49:59,890 --> 01:50:00,858
84

1810
01:50:00,858 --> 01:50:02,860
of the code, directing the

1811
01:50:02,860 --> 01:50:04,795
mayor or designee to create or

1812
01:50:04,795 --> 01:50:05,997
maintain and update a

1813
01:50:05,997 --> 01:50:07,798
centralized portal for use in

1814
01:50:07,798 --> 01:50:09,801
the protest process, in

1815
01:50:09,801 --> 01:50:10,802
coordination with the clerk of

1816
01:50:10,802 --> 01:50:12,803
court, requiring a report

1817
01:50:12,803 --> 01:50:14,710
report providing severability,

1818
01:50:14,710 --> 01:50:15,973
inclusion in and exclusion from

1819
01:50:15,973 --> 01:50:16,173
the code, and an effective

1820
01:50:16,173 --> 01:50:18,173
date.

1821
01:50:18,775 --> 01:50:20,811
5f substitute relates to county

1822
01:50:20,811 --> 01:50:22,811
procurement implementing in

1823
01:50:25,149 --> 01:50:27,118
whole or part recommendations

1824
01:50:27,118 --> 01:50:29,153
from the final report of the

1825
01:50:29,153 --> 01:50:31,156
special task force to reduce

1826
01:50:31,156 --> 01:50:32,390
inefficiencies in procurement

1827
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:35,126
relating to small business and

1828
01:50:35,126 --> 01:50:36,327
local preference requirements

1829
01:50:36,327 --> 01:50:38,327
amending sections to-8.1.1,

1830
01:50:52,744 --> 01:50:54,646
two-8.1.1.2 relating to small

1831
01:50:54,646 --> 01:50:56,140
business architecture and

1832
01:50:56,140 --> 01:50:56,848
engineering program

1833
01:50:56,848 --> 01:50:58,683
requirements, small business

1834
01:50:58,683 --> 01:50:59,852
enterprise service program

1835
01:50:59,852 --> 01:51:01,687
requirements, small business

1836
01:51:01,687 --> 01:51:03,687
enterprise goods program

1837
01:51:03,689 --> 01:51:04,656
requirements local business

1838
01:51:04,656 --> 01:51:06,656
preference, locally

1839
01:51:06,658 --> 01:51:08,658
headquartered business

1840
01:51:08,660 --> 01:51:09,895
preference, local preference

1841
01:51:09,895 --> 01:51:11,731
eligibility and verification,

1842
01:51:11,731 --> 01:51:13,833
small business remedies and

1843
01:51:13,833 --> 01:51:15,668
related procurement policies

1844
01:51:15,668 --> 01:51:16,869
erecting and authorizing the

1845
01:51:16,869 --> 01:51:19,269
mayor to make conforming

1846
01:51:19,672 --> 01:51:21,674
changes and providing providing

1847
01:51:21,674 --> 01:51:23,676
severability, inclusion in and

1848
01:51:23,676 --> 01:51:24,430
exclusion from the code, and an

1849
01:51:24,430 --> 01:51:26,430
effective date.

1850
01:51:26,679 --> 01:51:27,880
5g implements recommendations

1851
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,684
from the final report of a

1852
01:51:30,684 --> 01:51:32,685
special task force to reduce

1853
01:51:32,685 --> 01:51:33,820
inefficiencies in procurement

1854
01:51:33,820 --> 01:51:35,688
amending 211 of the code

1855
01:51:35,688 --> 01:51:37,656
relating to the conflict of

1856
01:51:37,656 --> 01:51:38,925
interest and code of ethics

1857
01:51:38,925 --> 01:51:40,660
ordinance, to-eight relating

1858
01:51:40,660 --> 01:51:41,828
to fair subcontracting

1859
01:51:41,828 --> 01:51:43,828
processes, section 28.1.1 of

1860
01:51:43,830 --> 01:51:45,698
the code relating to the small

1861
01:51:45,698 --> 01:51:47,698
business enterprise services

1862
01:51:47,700 --> 01:51:48,835
program section 28.1.1.2 of the

1863
01:51:48,835 --> 01:51:50,671
code relating to the small

1864
01:51:50,671 --> 01:51:51,938
business enterprise goods

1865
01:51:51,938 --> 01:51:53,773
program, section 2-8.1 of the

1866
01:51:53,773 --> 01:51:55,742
code relating to bids from

1867
01:51:55,742 --> 01:51:57,677
related parties and section 10

1868
01:51:57,677 --> 01:51:58,812
-30.2 of the code relating to

1869
01:51:58,812 --> 01:52:00,881
bids precluded from related

1870
01:52:00,881 --> 01:52:02,816
parties repealing resolution

1871
01:52:02,816 --> 01:52:05,216
are 63-14 requiring certain

1872
01:52:05,686 --> 01:52:07,688
due diligence affidavits in

1873
01:52:07,688 --> 01:52:09,688
procurement, providing

1874
01:52:09,690 --> 01:52:11,692
severability, inclusion in and

1875
01:52:11,692 --> 01:52:12,893
exclusion from the code, and an

1876
01:52:12,893 --> 01:52:15,129
effective date and requiring a

1877
01:52:15,129 --> 01:52:17,164
report, 5h substitute relates

1878
01:52:17,164 --> 01:52:19,132
to multiple recommendations

1879
01:52:19,132 --> 01:52:21,135
from the final report of the

1880
01:52:21,135 --> 01:52:23,137
special task force to reduce

1881
01:52:23,137 --> 01:52:25,137
inefficiencies in procurement

1882
01:52:25,573 --> 01:52:27,541
amending section 2-11.1 of

1883
01:52:27,541 --> 01:52:29,410
the code of miami-dade county

1884
01:52:29,410 --> 01:52:31,412
relating to the cone of silence

1885
01:52:31,412 --> 01:52:33,414
to permit closed recorded oral

1886
01:52:33,414 --> 01:52:35,414
presentations in competitive

1887
01:52:35,416 --> 01:52:37,416
procurements consistent with

1888
01:52:37,418 --> 01:52:39,818
exemption in florida law

1889
01:52:42,857 --> 01:52:44,859
amending and plummeting orders

1890
01:52:44,859 --> 01:52:46,828
three-34 and three-39

1891
01:52:46,828 --> 01:52:48,828
establishing requirements for

1892
01:52:48,830 --> 01:52:50,650
competitive selection committee

1893
01:52:50,650 --> 01:52:52,000
appointments, composition

1894
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,969
scoring training and conflict

1895
01:52:53,969 --> 01:52:55,904
checks creating large lawyer

1896
01:52:55,904 --> 01:52:57,839
employer category relating to

1897
01:52:57,839 --> 01:52:59,700
evaluation scoring and

1898
01:52:59,700 --> 01:53:00,843
acquisition and providing

1899
01:53:00,843 --> 01:53:02,111
providing severability,

1900
01:53:02,111 --> 01:53:04,112
inclusion in and exclusion from

1901
01:53:04,112 --> 01:53:06,140
the code, and an effective date

1902
01:53:06,140 --> 01:53:07,849
5I as a resolution amending

1903
01:53:07,849 --> 01:53:09,852
resolution are 795 tend to

1904
01:53:09,852 --> 01:53:11,530
revise the co-designation of

1905
01:53:11,530 --> 01:53:13,550
that portion of the nation away

1906
01:53:13,550 --> 01:53:16,655
from east san marino island and

1907
01:53:17,793 --> 01:53:19,796
west rivo alto island and

1908
01:53:19,796 --> 01:53:21,798
supplement, 5k establishes a

1909
01:53:21,798 --> 01:53:23,799
special taxing district in the

1910
01:53:23,799 --> 01:53:25,801
county bounded on the north by

1911
01:53:25,801 --> 01:53:27,360
theoretical southwest 325

1912
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,636
street on the east by southwest

1913
01:53:32,976 --> 01:53:34,811
194 avenue and on the south by

1914
01:53:34,811 --> 01:53:35,945
southwest 328 street lucy

1915
01:53:35,945 --> 01:53:37,814
street and on the west by

1916
01:53:37,814 --> 01:53:39,783
southwest 197 avenue richard

1917
01:53:39,783 --> 01:53:41,785
road known and described as

1918
01:53:41,785 --> 01:53:43,785
harmony homes multipurpose

1919
01:53:43,787 --> 01:53:46,187
maintenance and street lighting

1920
01:53:46,723 --> 01:53:47,924
special tasking district and

1921
01:53:47,924 --> 01:53:50,324
affiant identifying services to

1922
01:53:50,694 --> 01:53:52,696
be provided and provide for the

1923
01:53:52,696 --> 01:53:53,863
installation of streetlights,

1924
01:53:53,863 --> 01:53:55,698
approving a street lighting

1925
01:53:55,698 --> 01:53:57,700
agreement with florida power

1926
01:53:57,700 --> 01:53:59,703
and light and authorizing mayor

1927
01:53:59,703 --> 01:54:00,905
or designee to execute the

1928
01:54:00,905 --> 01:54:02,873
agreement waiving revolutions

1929
01:54:02,873 --> 01:54:04,774
of our one 3006 and providing

1930
01:54:04,774 --> 01:54:06,900
exclusion from the code and an

1931
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:07,977
effective date and 8k1 approves

1932
01:54:07,977 --> 01:54:09,847
a preliminary assessment role

1933
01:54:09,847 --> 01:54:11,849
for the district, 5l grants

1934
01:54:11,849 --> 01:54:13,718
sunset opportunities and sunset

1935
01:54:13,718 --> 01:54:14,918
c1 llc for establish on of a

1936
01:54:14,918 --> 01:54:16,854
community bounded district on

1937
01:54:16,854 --> 01:54:18,722
the north side harriet tubman

1938
01:54:18,722 --> 01:54:20,725
highway and on the south by

1939
01:54:20,725 --> 01:54:22,727
south 58th avenue sunset drive

1940
01:54:22,727 --> 01:54:24,727
creating and establishing

1941
01:54:24,729 --> 01:54:27,129
downtown so me community

1942
01:54:32,703 --> 01:54:33,838
development district inviting

1943
01:54:33,838 --> 01:54:35,673
name powers and duties

1944
01:54:35,673 --> 01:54:37,673
providing description of

1945
01:54:37,675 --> 01:54:39,675
boundaries, providing initial

1946
01:54:39,678 --> 01:54:40,845
members of the board of

1947
01:54:40,845 --> 01:54:42,680
supervisors, accepting

1948
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:44,680
proffered declaration of

1949
01:54:44,682 --> 01:54:46,682
restrictive covenants,

1950
01:54:46,684 --> 01:54:47,952
providing severability,

1951
01:54:47,952 --> 01:54:49,855
inclusion in and exclusion from

1952
01:54:49,855 --> 01:54:50,689
the code, and an effective

1953
01:54:50,689 --> 01:54:51,790
date.

1954
01:54:51,790 --> 01:54:53,692
Five and approves 6301

1955
01:54:53,692 --> 01:54:55,827
southwest. 27th street, a

1956
01:54:55,827 --> 01:54:57,829
resolution approving the waiver

1957
01:54:57,829 --> 01:54:59,698
of plat of claudio ortiz garcia

1958
01:54:59,698 --> 01:55:01,834
and giselle betancourt, 5p is a

1959
01:55:01,834 --> 01:55:03,869
resolution approving the waiver

1960
01:55:03,869 --> 01:55:05,837
plat of mosaic andres gonzales,

1961
01:55:05,837 --> 01:55:07,706
5q approves the waiver of plat

1962
01:55:07,706 --> 01:55:08,600
of alliance northwest 60th

1963
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:09,842
street llc.

1964
01:55:09,842 --> 01:55:13,442
Five are approves the plat of

1965
01:55:18,583 --> 01:55:20,586
lions trail subdivision, 5s

1966
01:55:20,586 --> 01:55:21,620
approves the plat of west palm

1967
01:55:21,620 --> 01:55:23,589
villas, five you is a

1968
01:55:23,589 --> 01:55:24,757
resolution approving the plat

1969
01:55:24,757 --> 01:55:27,757
of sunset oaks south, 5v

1970
01:55:46,479 --> 01:55:48,481
approves the plat rumasa

1971
01:55:48,481 --> 01:55:50,617
subdivision, 5x designates that

1972
01:55:50,617 --> 01:55:52,686
portion of southwest 132 second

1973
01:55:52,686 --> 01:55:54,554
avenue between 104th street and

1974
01:55:54,554 --> 01:55:55,689
south colusa club drive, I'm

1975
01:55:55,689 --> 01:55:57,490
sorry, we did that, 1483

1976
01:55:57,490 --> 01:55:59,626
approves as a governmental

1977
01:55:59,626 --> 01:56:01,495
facility development of certain

1978
01:56:01,495 --> 01:56:03,497
new facilities for an

1979
01:56:03,497 --> 01:56:04,698
integrated correctional campus

1980
01:56:04,698 --> 01:56:06,633
at 7000 northwest. 41st street

1981
01:56:06,633 --> 01:56:08,501
and in compliance with section

1982
01:56:08,501 --> 01:56:09,670
33-303 of the code subject to

1983
01:56:09,670 --> 01:56:11,605
certain conditions, those are

1984
01:56:11,605 --> 01:56:13,474
your public hearing items.

1985
01:56:13,474 --> 01:56:15,475
>> public hearing is open, we

1986
01:56:15,475 --> 01:56:16,710
have to that have signed up for

1987
01:56:16,710 --> 01:56:17,544
quasijudicial items 5m and 5s,

1988
01:56:17,544 --> 01:56:18,544
swear in josc

1989
01:56:18,544 --> 01:56:19,580
and sir j to the

1990
01:56:19,580 --> 01:56:20,481
clerk, swear in those

1991
01:56:20,481 --> 01:56:22,382
witnesses.

1992
01:56:22,382 --> 01:56:24,218
>>> do you solemnly swear or

1993
01:56:24,218 --> 01:56:25,385
affirm the testimony you are

1994
01:56:25,385 --> 01:56:27,354
about to give is the truth

1995
01:56:27,354 --> 01:56:29,222
whole truth and nothing but the

1996
01:56:29,222 --> 01:56:31,225
truth so help you GOD, thank

1997
01:56:31,225 --> 01:56:34,225
you you MAY be seated.

1998
01:56:35,563 --> 01:56:36,764
>> if I call your name please

1999
01:56:36,764 --> 01:56:38,566
approach the podium and line up

2000
01:56:38,566 --> 01:56:40,568
in the order your name is

2001
01:56:40,568 --> 01:56:42,570
called, give us your name and

2002
01:56:42,570 --> 01:56:44,500
address and you will have one

2003
01:56:44,500 --> 01:56:46,405
minute, MR. Jared simon,

2004
01:56:46,808 --> 01:56:48,843
jennifer harrison, tom carney,

2005
01:56:48,843 --> 01:56:50,612
eddie arroyo, michelle vargas,

2006
01:56:50,612 --> 01:56:52,612
nina trachtenberg.

2007
01:57:01,490 --> 01:57:03,890
[Reading names] Please state

2008
01:57:05,426 --> 01:57:05,660
your name, you will have one

2009
01:57:05,660 --> 01:57:07,562
minute.

2010
01:57:07,562 --> 01:57:09,962
>>public speaker: jared simon,

2011
01:57:50,173 --> 01:57:52,175
3900 crawford avenue in coconut

2012
01:57:52,175 --> 01:57:54,110
grove and I'm a jewish resident

2013
01:57:54,110 --> 01:57:56,112
of miami-dade born and raised.

2014
01:57:56,112 --> 01:57:58,140
I believe my tax dollars should

2015
01:57:58,140 --> 01:58:00,830
be kept safe and working to

2016
01:58:00,830 --> 01:58:01,985
benefit my community and I also

2017
01:58:01,985 --> 01:58:03,220
believe in democracy, I hoped

2018
01:58:03,220 --> 01:58:05,880
these were values we shared a

2019
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:06,990
few minutes ago you voted

2020
01:58:06,990 --> 01:58:08,491
unanimously to allow the county

2021
01:58:08,491 --> 01:58:09,994
to invest 5% of its portfolio

2022
01:58:09,994 --> 01:58:11,995
of local tax dollars in the

2023
01:58:11,995 --> 01:58:12,296
underrated debt of the israeli

2024
01:58:12,296 --> 01:58:14,296
government.

2025
01:58:14,998 --> 01:58:15,999
An extremely controversial

2026
01:58:15,999 --> 01:58:17,167
choice.

2027
01:58:17,167 --> 01:58:19,135
Take a look at the 700 comments

2028
01:58:19,135 --> 01:58:21,720
on the miami herald article

2029
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,700
that came out yesterday and you

2030
01:58:23,700 --> 01:58:24,174
didn't even allow public

2031
01:58:24,174 --> 01:58:26,900
comment before voting.

2032
01:58:26,900 --> 01:58:27,110
You didn't even discuss it,

2033
01:58:27,110 --> 01:58:28,245
many of you are not even

2034
01:58:28,245 --> 01:58:30,810
listening to me right now.

2035
01:58:30,810 --> 01:58:32,490
Your constituents do not want

2036
01:58:32,490 --> 01:58:33,984
their tax dollars on thing the

2037
01:58:33,984 --> 01:58:35,219
functions of the israeli

2038
01:58:35,219 --> 01:58:37,870
government, they want their

2039
01:58:37,870 --> 01:58:37,321
taxes working for them in this

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01:58:37,321 --> 01:58:39,560
county.

2041
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:40,992
You are here to serve the

2042
01:58:40,992 --> 01:58:42,493
public, you seem to forget it.

2043
01:58:42,493 --> 01:58:43,996
>> next speaker please state

2044
01:58:43,996 --> 01:58:44,996
your name and address.

2045
01:58:44,996 --> 01:58:45,196
Chambers, chambers.

2046
01:58:45,196 --> 01:58:47,196
Hank you

2047
01:58:47,264 --> 01:58:49,100
for those of you joining us for

2048
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:51,200
the first time, we don't

2049
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:52,203
applaud, we raise our hands and

2050
01:58:52,203 --> 01:58:54,105
support, thumbs down if we

2051
01:58:54,105 --> 01:58:55,173
don't support but we don't

2052
01:58:55,173 --> 01:58:57,173
allow applause.

2053
01:58:57,175 --> 01:58:59,109
Your name address and the item

2054
01:58:59,109 --> 01:59:00,212
you are speaking on and I will

2055
01:59:00,212 --> 01:59:02,800
remind you we are here on

2056
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:03,215
public hearing items, 4b is

2057
01:59:03,215 --> 01:59:05,183
listed for you a lot of you as

2058
01:59:05,183 --> 01:59:07,510
the item you are speaking on

2059
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:08,319
but it is not and I repeat 4b

2060
01:59:08,319 --> 01:59:10,989
is not, the israeli bonds item.

2061
01:59:10,989 --> 01:59:12,224
F you start your commentary

2062
01:59:12,224 --> 01:59:14,192
regarding the israeli bonds

2063
01:59:14,192 --> 01:59:16,227
item that already passed, 11a

2064
01:59:16,227 --> 01:59:18,129
you will not be permitted to

2065
01:59:18,129 --> 01:59:20,199
speak, that item has already

2066
01:59:20,199 --> 01:59:22,100
passed, keep your commentary

2067
01:59:22,100 --> 01:59:23,169
limited to the item you are

2068
01:59:23,169 --> 01:59:23,402
honest to speak on which is

2069
01:59:23,402 --> 01:59:25,237
item 4b.

2070
01:59:25,237 --> 01:59:27,500
> 024 cortez street, 33134

2071
01:59:27,500 --> 01:59:27,139
here to address item 4b.

2072
01:59:27,139 --> 01:59:29,700
Hile

2073
01:59:29,700 --> 01:59:30,209
I would need information about

2074
01:59:30,209 --> 01:59:32,780
this item before I could give

2075
01:59:32,780 --> 01:59:34,130
my full support it appears to

2076
01:59:34,130 --> 01:59:35,247
be an excellent example of

2077
01:59:35,247 --> 01:59:37,820
miami-dade county investing its

2078
01:59:37,820 --> 01:59:38,317
money in the local bonds that

2079
01:59:38,317 --> 01:59:39,984
serve the community.

2080
01:59:39,984 --> 01:59:41,119
Rather than the risk risky

2081
01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:43,121
liquid bonds of a foreign

2082
01:59:43,121 --> 01:59:44,880
government in a volatile region

2083
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:46,880
of the world.

2084
01:59:46,124 --> 01:59:48,590
Following hamas heinous attack

2085
01:59:48,590 --> 01:59:49,994
OCTOBER 7 mayor, increased the

2086
01:59:49,994 --> 01:59:51,994
counties investment to

2087
01:59:51,996 --> 01:59:52,997
demonstrate its support for the

2088
01:59:52,997 --> 01:59:54,997
people of israel.

2089
01:59:54,999 --> 01:59:57,100
I respectfully request this

2090
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:58,168
commission to demonstrate their

2091
01:59:58,168 --> 02:00:01,400
support for the people of

2092
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:01,271
palestine in future investments

2093
02:00:01,271 --> 02:00:03,730
decisions.

2094
02:00:03,730 --> 02:00:05,800
>> next speaker, name and

2095
02:00:05,800 --> 02:00:05,242
address and you will have one

2096
02:00:05,242 --> 02:00:07,242
minute.

2097
02:00:11,470 --> 02:00:13,820
>> eddie arroyo, 33127 and died

2098
02:00:13,820 --> 02:00:14,884
in district 5 here to speak on

2099
02:00:14,884 --> 02:00:15,885
senator garcias county

2100
02:00:15,885 --> 02:00:17,860
investment policy.

2101
02:00:17,860 --> 02:00:19,486
>> that item has already

2102
02:00:21,690 --> 02:00:24,690
passed, it's 11a2, you signed

2103
02:00:25,794 --> 02:00:29,994
up to speak on 5b, 11a2 has

2104
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,400
already passed.

2105
02:00:34,402 --> 02:00:36,303
>>public speaker: I still want

2106
02:00:36,303 --> 02:00:40,503
to speak on the item that has

2107
02:00:44,712 --> 02:00:45,913
passed as well.

2108
02:00:45,913 --> 02:00:47,814
>> that's not how it works

2109
02:00:47,814 --> 02:00:49,816
here, the public hearing on the

2110
02:00:49,816 --> 02:00:51,685
item has been opened and closed

2111
02:00:51,685 --> 02:00:53,687
which that instruction was

2112
02:00:53,687 --> 02:00:54,954
given to you downstairs, you

2113
02:00:54,954 --> 02:00:56,856
need to the item you registered

2114
02:00:56,856 --> 02:00:57,924
for, we almost follow the same

2115
02:00:57,924 --> 02:00:59,125
rules, item 5b is what you

2116
02:00:59,125 --> 02:01:00,927
registered to speak on, please

2117
02:01:00,927 --> 02:01:02,610
proceed with 5b.

2118
02:01:02,610 --> 02:01:03,929
>>public speaker: I do not

2119
02:01:03,929 --> 02:01:07,650
approve of this policy and I

2120
02:01:07,650 --> 02:01:09,680
think it is reprehensible that

2121
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:10,269
the public is forbidden from

2122
02:01:10,269 --> 02:01:12,137
speaking even though it's

2123
02:01:12,137 --> 02:01:16,337
passed, I want to put that on

2124
02:01:19,511 --> 02:01:20,511
the record and I find it

2125
02:01:20,511 --> 02:01:22,511
reprehensible.

2126
02:01:22,513 --> 02:01:23,748
>> to our sergeants, we will

2127
02:01:23,748 --> 02:01:25,683
have to order in the chambers.

2128
02:01:25,683 --> 02:01:27,618
If you are standing in the back

2129
02:01:27,618 --> 02:01:29,520
I need you to find a seat.

2130
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:30,687
I need you to find a seat now.

2131
02:01:30,687 --> 02:01:30,921
Lease find a seat within the

2132
02:01:30,921 --> 02:01:32,589
chamber.

2133
02:01:32,589 --> 02:01:34,989
Hese keep order in

2134
02:01:35,325 --> 02:01:38,325
our chambers and please be

2135
02:01:38,995 --> 02:01:40,995
respectful of everyone.

2136
02:01:43,599 --> 02:01:43,866
Are you wrapping up, are you

2137
02:01:43,866 --> 02:01:45,866
finished?

2138
02:01:49,472 --> 02:01:51,674
>> before we move forward.

2139
02:01:51,674 --> 02:01:54,740
>> commissioner, can you please

2140
02:01:59,981 --> 02:02:01,283
ask to be recognized.

2141
02:02:01,283 --> 02:02:03,151
>>commissioner hardemon: we can

2142
02:02:03,151 --> 02:02:05,190
be asked to follow procedures

2143
02:02:05,190 --> 02:02:06,955
of this board but we are not

2144
02:02:06,955 --> 02:02:08,222
doing that, we're not going to

2145
02:02:08,222 --> 02:02:10,910
stand here and allow anyone to

2146
02:02:10,910 --> 02:02:11,959
be intimidated on this day us

2147
02:02:11,959 --> 02:02:13,160
and I don't care what you're

2148
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:15,290
talking about, what subject it

2149
02:02:15,290 --> 02:02:16,967
is you don't like, what you

2150
02:02:16,967 --> 02:02:18,232
care for or don't care for.

2151
02:02:18,232 --> 02:02:20,100
what we are not going to stand

2152
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:21,968
for or people who want to make

2153
02:02:21,968 --> 02:02:23,169
anyone in this room feel

2154
02:02:23,169 --> 02:02:25,710
uncomfortable about where they

2155
02:02:25,710 --> 02:02:26,138
are which they are in this

2156
02:02:26,138 --> 02:02:29,138
place, if you make people

2157
02:02:32,879 --> 02:02:33,879
unsafe you will be removed

2158
02:02:33,879 --> 02:02:35,114
immediately.

2159
02:02:35,114 --> 02:02:36,949
Immediately, we don't care what

2160
02:02:36,949 --> 02:02:38,884
GOD you serve, who your child

2161
02:02:38,884 --> 02:02:39,885
is or not, we don't care if

2162
02:02:39,885 --> 02:02:41,186
you're the mayor or

2163
02:02:41,186 --> 02:02:43,880
commissioner, whoever you are,

2164
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:44,989
if you try to intimidate

2165
02:02:44,989 --> 02:02:46,158
someone on this day us, in this

2166
02:02:46,158 --> 02:02:48,590
crowd, in this place you will

2167
02:02:48,590 --> 02:02:49,961
be removed from this space and

2168
02:02:49,961 --> 02:02:52,961
if you don't understand that,

2169
02:02:57,501 --> 02:02:59,436
please try us.

2170
02:02:59,436 --> 02:03:00,671
>> thank you commissioner

2171
02:03:00,671 --> 02:03:02,473
hardemon, I don't think it was

2172
02:03:02,473 --> 02:03:03,607
caught on the microphones but

2173
02:03:03,607 --> 02:03:05,409
someone spoke out of turn

2174
02:03:05,409 --> 02:03:06,543
without registering and I

2175
02:03:06,543 --> 02:03:08,411
couldn't agree more.

2176
02:03:08,411 --> 02:03:09,579
We will have to order in our

2177
02:03:09,579 --> 02:03:10,413
chambers, welcome back MR.

2178
02:03:10,413 --> 02:03:11,514
CHAIRMAN.

2179
02:03:11,514 --> 02:03:13,514
>>chair: go ahead.

2180
02:03:13,516 --> 02:03:15,418
>>public speaker: I wanted have

2181
02:03:15,418 --> 02:03:16,919
time to speak about that

2182
02:03:16,919 --> 02:03:17,320
particular israeli bond that

2183
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,821
has been passed.

2184
02:03:18,821 --> 02:03:20,823
>>chair: you already spoke,

2185
02:03:20,823 --> 02:03:22,823
thank you.

2186
02:03:32,834 --> 02:03:34,836
>> I want to speak also to the

2187
02:03:34,836 --> 02:03:36,370
egregious nature and fiscal

2188
02:03:36,370 --> 02:03:38,390
misappropriation of agenda item

2189
02:03:38,390 --> 02:03:38,840
11a2 that you unanimously

2190
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:39,941
passed.

2191
02:03:39,941 --> 02:03:41,842
Ou clearly don't have

2192
02:03:41,842 --> 02:03:43,100
the fiscal responsibility to

2193
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:46,610
pass item 5b, they should be

2194
02:03:47,581 --> 02:03:49,449
used for miami-dade county.

2195
02:03:49,449 --> 02:03:51,451
>>chair: we need to speak on

2196
02:03:51,451 --> 02:03:52,185
items on public hearing right

2197
02:03:52,185 --> 02:03:54,185
now.

2198
02:04:00,660 --> 02:04:02,595
So thank you so much.

2199
02:04:02,595 --> 02:04:04,530
I stepped out for 2 seconds and

2200
02:04:04,530 --> 02:04:06,732
I caught the tail end of

2201
02:04:06,732 --> 02:04:08,701
commissioner hardemon's

2202
02:04:08,701 --> 02:04:09,902
comments and commissioner cohen

2203
02:04:09,902 --> 02:04:12,902
higgins and they are right,

2204
02:04:24,648 --> 02:04:26,651
we've got to stay on subject.

2205
02:04:26,651 --> 02:04:27,718
Let's stay on the agenda, guys.

2206
02:04:27,718 --> 02:04:29,653
Let's be courteous and

2207
02:04:29,653 --> 02:04:30,887
respectful of the people that

2208
02:04:30,887 --> 02:04:32,656
drove all the way down here to

2209
02:04:32,656 --> 02:04:34,658
speak on the items on the

2210
02:04:34,658 --> 02:04:35,725
agenda following the rules and

2211
02:04:35,725 --> 02:04:36,660
following what they are

2212
02:04:36,660 --> 02:04:38,660
supposed to do.

2213
02:04:38,662 --> 02:04:39,863
>>public speaker: rochelle

2214
02:04:39,863 --> 02:04:41,665
vargas, 21st street district 5,

2215
02:04:41,665 --> 02:04:41,964
item 4b on bonds and

2216
02:04:41,964 --> 02:04:43,766
investment.

2217
02:04:43,766 --> 02:04:45,668
I'm here to speak about just

2218
02:04:45,668 --> 02:04:48,668
asking the board to consider

2219
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:54,109
how policies are amended and

2220
02:04:54,109 --> 02:04:55,430
written for bonds and

2221
02:04:55,430 --> 02:04:56,378
investments.

2222
02:04:56,378 --> 02:04:58,347
Especially as your duty is to

2223
02:04:58,347 --> 02:05:00,347
protect taxpayer funds.

2224
02:05:05,754 --> 02:05:07,622
Keep them liquid and to protect

2225
02:05:07,622 --> 02:05:08,890
our taxpayer money and

2226
02:05:08,890 --> 02:05:10,792
prioritize this taxpayer money

2227
02:05:10,792 --> 02:05:11,580
and its liquidity over the rate

2228
02:05:11,580 --> 02:05:13,580
of return.

2229
02:05:23,437 --> 02:05:25,305
Ith bonds, always

2230
02:05:25,305 --> 02:05:27,273
want to remind you all we work

2231
02:05:27,273 --> 02:05:28,374
in miami dade county, we work

2232
02:05:28,374 --> 02:05:30,276
with and enjoy miami-dade

2233
02:05:30,276 --> 02:05:32,178
county and we should keep bonds

2234
02:05:32,178 --> 02:05:32,378
local, keep our investments

2235
02:05:32,378 --> 02:05:34,246
local.

2236
02:05:34,246 --> 02:05:36,182
There are many things right now

2237
02:05:36,182 --> 02:05:37,349
being cut in the county budget

2238
02:05:37,349 --> 02:05:39,351
that will benefit the local

2239
02:05:39,351 --> 02:05:41,751
community instead of investing

2240
02:05:46,658 --> 02:05:46,825
in foreign governments, thank

2241
02:05:46,825 --> 02:05:48,660
you.

2242
02:05:48,660 --> 02:05:49,828
>>public speaker: my name is

2243
02:05:49,828 --> 02:05:51,828
mina trachtenberg, northwest

2244
02:05:58,703 --> 02:05:59,804
15th street, florida statutes

2245
02:05:59,804 --> 02:06:01,772
and the investment policy

2246
02:06:01,772 --> 02:06:03,674
itself specifically state their

2247
02:06:03,674 --> 02:06:04,908
top priority is the safety of

2248
02:06:04,908 --> 02:06:06,810
public funds and liquidity of

2249
02:06:06,810 --> 02:06:08,712
public funds above all else yet

2250
02:06:08,712 --> 02:06:10,647
the resolution achieves the

2251
02:06:10,647 --> 02:06:12,649
opposite of that opening the

2252
02:06:12,649 --> 02:06:13,950
door to the purchase of high

2253
02:06:13,950 --> 02:06:15,885
risk even jump quality bonds of

2254
02:06:15,885 --> 02:06:17,754
a foreign entity which is the

2255
02:06:17,754 --> 02:06:19,655
only foreign government miami

2256
02:06:19,655 --> 02:06:20,856
is invested in, items like

2257
02:06:20,856 --> 02:06:22,792
resolution 5b or a resolution

2258
02:06:22,792 --> 02:06:26,392
of how we can handle public

2259
02:06:30,465 --> 02:06:31,466
funds, please divest from

2260
02:06:31,466 --> 02:06:32,868
apartheid.

2261
02:06:32,868 --> 02:06:34,469
>>public speaker: 1617

2262
02:06:34,469 --> 02:06:35,603
southwest. 1/33 street here to

2263
02:06:35,603 --> 02:06:37,472
speak on item 5b, miami's

2264
02:06:37,472 --> 02:06:38,673
investment portfolio, the

2265
02:06:38,673 --> 02:06:40,641
county finds itself in a budget

2266
02:06:40,641 --> 02:06:43,477
crisis and instead of figuring

2267
02:06:43,477 --> 02:06:44,612
out how we can best afford the

2268
02:06:44,612 --> 02:06:46,580
services essential for the

2269
02:06:46,580 --> 02:06:48,649
residence of miami-dade county

2270
02:06:48,649 --> 02:06:50,484
the commission has passed an

2271
02:06:50,484 --> 02:06:52,452
item that would allow for

2272
02:06:52,452 --> 02:06:54,454
further investment in a foreign

2273
02:06:54,454 --> 02:06:55,655
country, investments that

2274
02:06:55,655 --> 02:06:57,591
should have ended long ago.

2275
02:06:57,591 --> 02:06:57,857
This decision puts another

2276
02:06:57,857 --> 02:06:59,692
county-

2277
02:06:59,692 --> 02:07:00,527
>chair: that's not what this

2278
02:07:00,527 --> 02:07:01,461
item is.

2279
02:07:01,461 --> 02:07:02,695
Ma'am,

2280
02:07:02,695 --> 02:07:04,695
>>public speaker: 2141 south

2281
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:17,242
terrace on item 5b, I'll speak

2282
02:07:17,242 --> 02:07:19,770
be speaking to the investments,

2283
02:07:19,770 --> 02:07:21,120
item 5b exists within the

2284
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,140
confines of a budget crisis as

2285
02:07:23,140 --> 02:07:24,282
well as a genocide against

2286
02:07:24,282 --> 02:07:26,170
palestinians in gaza backed by

2287
02:07:26,170 --> 02:07:28,170
the united states.

2288
02:07:28,190 --> 02:07:29,530
>>chair: we are going to do

2289
02:07:29,530 --> 02:07:30,540
something.

2290
02:07:30,540 --> 02:07:31,222
They are not listening so

2291
02:07:31,222 --> 02:07:32,189
sergeants, if they continue

2292
02:07:32,189 --> 02:07:34,189
just escort them.

2293
02:07:35,592 --> 02:07:36,593
Ask them to kindly exit the

2294
02:07:36,593 --> 02:07:38,593
chamber.

2295
02:07:38,629 --> 02:07:39,796
>>public speaker: esteemed

2296
02:07:39,796 --> 02:07:42,196
commissioners and mayor, I'm

2297
02:07:43,466 --> 02:07:46,466
now concerned because I'm a

2298
02:07:49,806 --> 02:07:51,741
palestinian resident here and

2299
02:07:51,741 --> 02:07:53,709
I'm already worried I'm going

2300
02:07:53,709 --> 02:07:54,844
to be escorted out just for

2301
02:07:54,844 --> 02:07:56,844
being palestinian.

2302
02:07:56,845 --> 02:07:59,348
I came here to get information

2303
02:07:59,348 --> 02:08:01,249
on 5b.

2304
02:08:01,249 --> 02:08:02,484
>>chair: you have to follow the

2305
02:08:02,484 --> 02:08:05,887
order and speak on the item, if

2306
02:08:05,887 --> 02:08:07,722
you speak on 5b, if you're

2307
02:08:07,722 --> 02:08:10,191
going to speak on 5b, you can

2308
02:08:10,191 --> 02:08:12,126
speak for your entire minute.

2309
02:08:12,126 --> 02:08:15,126
>>public speaker: I wanted to

2310
02:08:16,630 --> 02:08:17,898
thank the pastor gave this

2311
02:08:17,898 --> 02:08:19,866
lovely christian right at the

2312
02:08:19,866 --> 02:08:20,467
beginning of the commission

2313
02:08:20,467 --> 02:08:22,569
hearing when he said I think

2314
02:08:22,569 --> 02:08:22,836
it's about the humility of

2315
02:08:22,836 --> 02:08:24,836
listening.

2316
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:30,377
Our tax dollars pay for this

2317
02:08:30,377 --> 02:08:30,643
building, it pays for all your

2318
02:08:30,643 --> 02:08:32,643
salaries.

2319
02:08:34,781 --> 02:08:38,981
And in that case I will say

2320
02:08:41,353 --> 02:08:42,354
that 11a2 is an absolute

2321
02:08:42,354 --> 02:08:44,354
disgrace.

2322
02:08:48,393 --> 02:08:50,393
>>chair: sergeants.

2323
02:09:04,141 --> 02:09:04,341
They want their minutes of

2324
02:09:04,341 --> 02:09:06,143
fame.

2325
02:09:06,143 --> 02:09:08,143
>>public speaker: james

2326
02:09:08,144 --> 02:09:08,378
fishback, 177 southwest. Orange

2327
02:09:08,378 --> 02:09:10,213
avenue.

2328
02:09:10,213 --> 02:09:12,249
I assure you I am not here to

2329
02:09:12,249 --> 02:09:14,150
talk about israel, I'm not here

2330
02:09:14,150 --> 02:09:16,152
to talk about the fact this

2331
02:09:16,152 --> 02:09:18,552
commission this morning voted

2332
02:09:31,330 --> 02:09:32,167
unanimously to give $450

2333
02:09:32,167 --> 02:09:33,350
million to the israeli

2334
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:34,350
government.

2335
02:09:34,350 --> 02:09:35,136
Am not here to

2336
02:09:35,136 --> 02:09:37,380
talk about the fact this

2337
02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:38,273
commission has struggled to pay

2338
02:09:38,273 --> 02:09:40,175
the deputies in this county,

2339
02:09:40,175 --> 02:09:42,770
the teachers in this county

2340
02:09:42,770 --> 02:09:44,120
while the fact the commission

2341
02:09:44,120 --> 02:09:45,180
unanimously voted to give $450

2342
02:09:45,180 --> 02:09:47,149
million of money to israel, I

2343
02:09:47,149 --> 02:09:49,170
assure you I am not talking

2344
02:09:49,170 --> 02:09:50,253
about that today because I

2345
02:09:50,253 --> 02:09:52,154
don't want to be escorted out

2346
02:09:52,154 --> 02:09:54,230
by these great men in uniform.

2347
02:09:54,230 --> 02:09:55,230
What this is about simply is

2348
02:09:55,230 --> 02:09:56,191
who do you serve?

2349
02:09:56,191 --> 02:09:57,250
Do you serve the people of

2350
02:09:57,250 --> 02:09:58,193
hialeah?

2351
02:09:58,193 --> 02:09:59,227
do you serve the people of

2352
02:09:59,227 --> 02:10:01,263
aventura or tel aviv?

2353
02:10:01,263 --> 02:10:02,264
Do you serve the people of the

2354
02:10:02,264 --> 02:10:04,200
city or jerusalem?

2355
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:06,202
This money should be invested

2356
02:10:06,202 --> 02:10:09,802
in this community, it should be

2357
02:10:11,141 --> 02:10:12,976
invested in miami-dade county.

2358
02:10:12,976 --> 02:10:15,376
>>public speaker: the people

2359
02:10:24,787 --> 02:10:26,787
here deserve better.

2360
02:10:26,789 --> 02:10:27,757
>>public speaker: america

2361
02:10:27,757 --> 02:10:29,757
first!

2362
02:10:37,634 --> 02:10:39,634
America first!

2363
02:10:39,637 --> 02:10:40,604
>>commissioner gilbert: MR.

2364
02:10:40,604 --> 02:10:42,604
CHAIRMAN.

2365
02:10:42,606 --> 02:10:45,600
>>chair: you are recognized

2366
02:10:45,575 --> 02:10:47,575
commissioner gilbert.

2367
02:10:52,783 --> 02:10:54,170
>>commissioner gilbert: senator

2368
02:10:54,170 --> 02:10:57,170
garcia, we should probably take

2369
02:11:02,893 --> 02:11:03,127
a moment to address a couple of

2370
02:11:03,127 --> 02:11:04,895
things.

2371
02:11:04,895 --> 02:11:06,960
First of all when people say

2372
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:09,960
things like america first, the

2373
02:11:10,301 --> 02:11:11,502
very first amendment in the

2374
02:11:11,502 --> 02:11:13,371
constitution allowed us to

2375
02:11:13,371 --> 02:11:15,273
speak so that's what we allow

2376
02:11:15,273 --> 02:11:17,740
and it allows you to petition

2377
02:11:17,740 --> 02:11:18,175
your government, that's why we

2378
02:11:18,175 --> 02:11:20,780
have procedures but when

2379
02:11:20,780 --> 02:11:22,800
commissioner hardemon spoke he

2380
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:23,314
spoke the way he did because at

2381
02:11:23,314 --> 02:11:26,914
times we are so involved with

2382
02:11:27,485 --> 02:11:28,719
what we believe, we don't

2383
02:11:28,719 --> 02:11:30,622
understand there are folks on

2384
02:11:30,622 --> 02:11:31,656
the other side who believe

2385
02:11:31,656 --> 02:11:33,656
something different.

2386
02:11:37,395 --> 02:11:37,628
We can disagree.

2387
02:11:37,628 --> 02:11:39,397
Civilly.

2388
02:11:39,397 --> 02:11:40,232
E need to disagree

2389
02:11:40,232 --> 02:11:41,433
civilly.

2390
02:11:41,433 --> 02:11:43,368
That conversation can be had,

2391
02:11:43,368 --> 02:11:46,638
the discussion can be had but

2392
02:11:46,638 --> 02:11:46,872
it has to be had in a civil

2393
02:11:46,872 --> 02:11:48,807
manner.

2394
02:11:48,807 --> 02:11:51,207
Because when civil discourse

2395
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:53,245
breaks down we are no longer

2396
02:11:53,245 --> 02:11:54,880
america.

2397
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:58,480
We can't be all america first

2398
02:12:00,386 --> 02:12:01,554
at the same time when it is to

2399
02:12:01,554 --> 02:12:03,954
shout everybody else down.

2400
02:12:05,257 --> 02:12:06,725
This meeting has to operate in

2401
02:12:06,725 --> 02:12:11,525
a way that allows all of us to

2402
02:12:13,499 --> 02:12:14,734
discuss items, hear

2403
02:12:14,734 --> 02:12:15,768
information, make decisions and

2404
02:12:15,768 --> 02:12:16,350
exist afterwards as a

2405
02:12:16,350 --> 02:12:17,837
community.

2406
02:12:17,837 --> 02:12:18,304
That includes information

2407
02:12:18,304 --> 02:12:20,304
that's correct.

2408
02:12:23,743 --> 02:12:26,111
Our board today didn't vote to

2409
02:12:26,111 --> 02:12:29,111
give any money to anyone?

2410
02:12:29,181 --> 02:12:31,581
We said investment criteria.

2411
02:12:34,654 --> 02:12:35,788
So without regard to the

2412
02:12:35,788 --> 02:12:38,788
soundbite you might want to

2413
02:12:44,331 --> 02:12:45,431
generate with your social media

2414
02:12:45,431 --> 02:12:45,699
latform, that's not what

2415
02:12:45,699 --> 02:12:47,534
happened.

2416
02:12:47,534 --> 02:12:49,335
We need to be clear about those

2417
02:12:49,335 --> 02:12:50,537
things because we can have

2418
02:12:50,537 --> 02:12:52,937
different opinions but facts

2419
02:12:56,760 --> 02:12:58,110
are facts.

2420
02:12:58,110 --> 02:13:00,147
The vote didn't give money to

2421
02:13:00,147 --> 02:13:02,983
anyone, it didn't buy anything,

2422
02:13:02,983 --> 02:13:04,985
we established criteria and

2423
02:13:04,985 --> 02:13:06,987
changed percentage and while I

2424
02:13:06,987 --> 02:13:08,155
appreciate everyone's opinion,

2425
02:13:08,155 --> 02:13:09,123
it is important you disagree

2426
02:13:09,123 --> 02:13:11,123
civilly.

2427
02:13:14,128 --> 02:13:15,363
Because I know I speak for my

2428
02:13:15,363 --> 02:13:17,298
colleagues when I say no one on

2429
02:13:17,298 --> 02:13:19,300
this board intends to let this

2430
02:13:19,300 --> 02:13:21,202
meeting evolve into anything

2431
02:13:21,202 --> 02:13:22,437
remotely similar to some of the

2432
02:13:22,437 --> 02:13:24,138
stuff we see online.

2433
02:13:24,138 --> 02:13:25,373
That won't be here in

2434
02:13:25,373 --> 02:13:27,341
miami-dade county so we should

2435
02:13:27,341 --> 02:13:30,212
all just probably called down.

2436
02:13:30,212 --> 02:13:32,800
Thank you MR. CHAIRMAN.

2437
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:34,800
>>chair: senator garcia.

2438
02:13:37,218 --> 02:13:39,870
>>senator garcia: we don't want

2439
02:13:39,870 --> 02:13:40,956
to belabor it and the item

2440
02:13:40,956 --> 02:13:43,956
already past and there was

2441
02:13:45,993 --> 02:13:47,996
opportunity to testify on this

2442
02:13:47,996 --> 02:13:49,230
item given to the public and I

2443
02:13:49,230 --> 02:13:51,133
understand we are using another

2444
02:13:51,133 --> 02:13:53,100
item to testify but I want to

2445
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:56,104
be clear what this is, the

2446
02:13:56,104 --> 02:13:58,390
reality is they passed a new

2447
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:59,207
regulatory scheme for

2448
02:13:59,207 --> 02:14:01,430
investments, we are following

2449
02:14:01,430 --> 02:14:01,277
state law based on what was

2450
02:14:01,277 --> 02:14:02,344
passed.

2451
02:14:02,344 --> 02:14:07,744
i have a hold on a lot of these

2452
02:14:08,817 --> 02:14:10,817
state requirements

2453
02:14:10,820 --> 02:14:12,210
implementations which therefore

2454
02:14:12,210 --> 02:14:12,822
that's why we're sponsoring

2455
02:14:12,822 --> 02:14:14,822
this.

2456
02:14:21,630 --> 02:14:22,765
When we look at investments we

2457
02:14:22,765 --> 02:14:24,667
tried to tell the public we

2458
02:14:24,667 --> 02:14:25,768
should not be investing in one

2459
02:14:25,768 --> 02:14:27,603
fund or another fund, the

2460
02:14:27,603 --> 02:14:29,603
county has $9 billion.

2461
02:14:29,606 --> 02:14:29,773
Our pension is invested in the

2462
02:14:29,773 --> 02:14:30,873
frs.

2463
02:14:30,873 --> 02:14:32,208
We use these investments to

2464
02:14:32,208 --> 02:14:34,210
make sure we have a greater set

2465
02:14:34,210 --> 02:14:37,647
of money in the bank account so

2466
02:14:37,647 --> 02:14:38,815
we can fund our police and

2467
02:14:38,815 --> 02:14:40,684
firefighters and fund the

2468
02:14:40,684 --> 02:14:40,884
operation of governments as

2469
02:14:40,884 --> 02:14:42,719
well.

2470
02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:47,519
So to call out and say just for

2471
02:15:01,105 --> 02:15:03,400
soundbites I agree with you

2472
02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:04,209
commissioner oliver gilbert.

2473
02:15:04,209 --> 02:15:06,143
Let's get stick to the facts

2474
02:15:06,143 --> 02:15:07,440
and say what this is and what

2475
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:08,245
this isn't.

2476
02:15:08,245 --> 02:15:10,181
The reality is we are running

2477
02:15:10,181 --> 02:15:12,490
these investments and I want to

2478
02:15:12,490 --> 02:15:13,217
make sure what we have here

2479
02:15:13,217 --> 02:15:15,119
working with the clerk gives

2480
02:15:15,119 --> 02:15:17,210
more flexibility and more

2481
02:15:17,210 --> 02:15:17,321
liquidity to some of our

2482
02:15:17,321 --> 02:15:19,223
investments.

2483
02:15:19,223 --> 02:15:20,240
It doesn't mandate us doing one

2484
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:21,159
thing.

2485
02:15:21,159 --> 02:15:23,270
It gives a clerk and our

2486
02:15:23,270 --> 02:15:24,194
investment personnel of

2487
02:15:24,194 --> 02:15:26,300
flexibility to pick the best

2488
02:15:26,300 --> 02:15:28,199
return on heels for this

2489
02:15:28,199 --> 02:15:29,133
community and that's all this

2490
02:15:29,133 --> 02:15:31,169
does, thank you MR. Chair.

2491
02:15:31,169 --> 02:15:33,370
>>vice chair mcghee: senator

2492
02:15:33,370 --> 02:15:34,239
let me take my hat off because

2493
02:15:34,239 --> 02:15:36,107
everyone knows this was already

2494
02:15:36,107 --> 02:15:38,507
made public knowledge and

2495
02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:42,948
individuals had the knowledge

2496
02:15:42,948 --> 02:15:44,849
that we discussed today at this

2497
02:15:44,849 --> 02:15:45,985
particular meeting and I agree

2498
02:15:45,985 --> 02:15:48,985
with my colleagues, to take

2499
02:16:06,371 --> 02:16:08,273
this particular item to make a

2500
02:16:08,273 --> 02:16:10,509
political position to do what i

2501
02:16:10,509 --> 02:16:11,377
believe is an active engagement

2502
02:16:11,377 --> 02:16:13,245
to click is in my humble

2503
02:16:13,245 --> 02:16:14,480
opinion one of the most

2504
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:16,382
disgraceful things we can do so

2505
02:16:16,382 --> 02:16:18,250
you continuously stand by what

2506
02:16:18,250 --> 02:16:19,384
you believe and this board is

2507
02:16:19,384 --> 02:16:21,353
standing with you and the

2508
02:16:21,353 --> 02:16:23,222
reality is they had issues with

2509
02:16:23,222 --> 02:16:24,423
this before they would have

2510
02:16:24,423 --> 02:16:26,225
made their position known early

2511
02:16:26,225 --> 02:16:27,493
on so thank you so much.

2512
02:16:27,493 --> 02:16:29,295
>>commissioner bermudez: ditto

2513
02:16:29,295 --> 02:16:31,231
to all the comments of my

2514
02:16:31,231 --> 02:16:32,432
colleagues to make sure these

2515
02:16:32,432 --> 02:16:34,400
meetings are run efficiently

2516
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:36,435
the right way and obviously

2517
02:16:36,435 --> 02:16:38,337
america was based on respecting

2518
02:16:38,337 --> 02:16:40,307
other people's opinions even

2519
02:16:40,307 --> 02:16:42,242
when we disagree with you but

2520
02:16:42,242 --> 02:16:44,244
for thursday night because

2521
02:16:44,244 --> 02:16:45,311
everybody's going to be back

2522
02:16:45,311 --> 02:16:47,347
that we are all taxpayers, all

2523
02:16:47,347 --> 02:16:49,248
of us are taxpayers of miami

2524
02:16:49,248 --> 02:16:51,251
dade county sometimes I think

2525
02:16:51,251 --> 02:16:52,318
individuals that come to see us

2526
02:16:52,318 --> 02:16:54,321
forget we pay taxes.

2527
02:16:54,321 --> 02:16:56,256
Unless one of you served in the

2528
02:16:56,256 --> 02:16:57,490
military and had an exemption

2529
02:16:57,490 --> 02:16:59,593
you pay property taxes to so if

2530
02:16:59,593 --> 02:17:01,228
you don't let me know because

2531
02:17:01,228 --> 02:17:02,596
that's incredible but the

2532
02:17:02,596 --> 02:17:04,397
suffering that everybody feels

2533
02:17:04,397 --> 02:17:06,232
in this community we feel and

2534
02:17:06,232 --> 02:17:07,334
I'm saying this because

2535
02:17:07,334 --> 02:17:09,235
thursday night while

2536
02:17:09,235 --> 02:17:11,238
everybody's home watching T.V.

2537
02:17:11,238 --> 02:17:12,473
Or we are getting into college

2538
02:17:12,473 --> 02:17:14,375
football season we will be on a

2539
02:17:14,375 --> 02:17:16,243
from 6:00 P.M. Until one in the

2540
02:17:16,243 --> 02:17:17,511
morning and we had a number of

2541
02:17:17,511 --> 02:17:19,312
people say I'm a taxpayer and I

2542
02:17:19,312 --> 02:17:22,912
hope we remind them we are

2543
02:17:24,718 --> 02:17:26,654
taxpayers two.

2544
02:17:26,654 --> 02:17:26,887
>>chair: the first 10 were

2545
02:17:26,887 --> 02:17:28,887
called.

2546
02:17:55,850 --> 02:17:58,850
I've got geneva class, [Reading

2547
02:18:03,325 --> 02:18:04,559
names] You MAY approach the

2548
02:18:04,559 --> 02:18:06,461
well, say your name and address

2549
02:18:06,461 --> 02:18:08,363
and you have a minute to speak

2550
02:18:08,363 --> 02:18:09,732
and as you wait list, please

2551
02:18:09,732 --> 02:18:11,700
stay on topic.

2552
02:18:11,700 --> 02:18:12,768
>>public speaker: my name is

2553
02:18:12,768 --> 02:18:13,802
rachel, 1865 79th street

2554
02:18:13,802 --> 02:18:15,802
causeway.

2555
02:18:18,730 --> 02:18:19,207
I want to point out that the

2556
02:18:19,207 --> 02:18:21,177
display was from someone not

2557
02:18:21,177 --> 02:18:24,177
called and was not registered

2558
02:18:26,115 --> 02:18:28,830
to speak.

2559
02:18:28,830 --> 02:18:30,190
His name was not called by the

2560
02:18:30,190 --> 02:18:31,254
chair, I believe he's also

2561
02:18:31,254 --> 02:18:34,854
running for public office and I

2562
02:18:41,931 --> 02:18:43,933
don't think anyone wants to be

2563
02:18:43,933 --> 02:18:44,300
associated with that kind of

2564
02:18:44,300 --> 02:18:46,102
heinous display.

2565
02:18:46,102 --> 02:18:48,700
I want to comment on hospitals.

2566
02:18:48,700 --> 02:18:49,940
I think they are a great thing

2567
02:18:49,940 --> 02:18:51,942
for public investment of our

2568
02:18:51,942 --> 02:18:53,944
taxpayer dollars and as the

2569
02:18:53,944 --> 02:18:55,111
commissioners said you all are

2570
02:18:55,111 --> 02:18:57,790
taxpayers, we are taxpayers

2571
02:18:57,790 --> 02:18:59,479
investing in hospitals, that's

2572
02:19:04,454 --> 02:19:06,456
the kind of things bonds can

2573
02:19:06,456 --> 02:19:07,691
fund, municipal bonds can fund

2574
02:19:07,691 --> 02:19:09,593
roads, these are the things we

2575
02:19:09,593 --> 02:19:10,594
want to be investing in common

2576
02:19:10,594 --> 02:19:12,463
you further things.

2577
02:19:12,463 --> 02:19:14,431
Want to be investing in so I

2578
02:19:14,431 --> 02:19:16,433
want to ask the question who is

2579
02:19:16,433 --> 02:19:17,567
calling your offices, what are

2580
02:19:17,567 --> 02:19:19,436
they asking for and if you

2581
02:19:19,436 --> 02:19:20,637
think when people are asking

2582
02:19:20,637 --> 02:19:22,673
you and this time when people

2583
02:19:22,673 --> 02:19:24,608
are struggling and can't afford

2584
02:19:24,608 --> 02:19:26,510
to live hear what are the kinds

2585
02:19:26,510 --> 02:19:28,445
of things positively and want

2586
02:19:28,445 --> 02:19:29,714
you to invest in both with the

2587
02:19:29,714 --> 02:19:31,616
pensions that we want the money

2588
02:19:31,616 --> 02:19:32,617
we invest to make money, of

2589
02:19:32,617 --> 02:19:34,452
course we want that.

2590
02:19:34,452 --> 02:19:35,653
We can do that ethically,

2591
02:19:35,653 --> 02:19:37,555
financially responsibly.

2592
02:19:37,555 --> 02:19:39,456
We can do that so I want

2593
02:19:39,456 --> 02:19:40,659
everyone to reflect on what

2594
02:19:40,659 --> 02:19:42,527
your constituents want you to

2595
02:19:42,527 --> 02:19:46,564
invest in and I know it's not

2596
02:19:46,564 --> 02:19:47,798
foreign governments.

2597
02:19:47,798 --> 02:19:49,668
>>public speaker: peace be with

2598
02:19:49,668 --> 02:19:50,635
you all, my address is 18810

2599
02:19:50,635 --> 02:19:52,635
northwest 78 way.

2600
02:20:05,851 --> 02:20:07,752
My family has lived and paid

2601
02:20:07,752 --> 02:20:08,687
taxes in miami-dade county the

2602
02:20:08,687 --> 02:20:09,889
last 50 years.

2603
02:20:09,889 --> 02:20:11,891
I'm also an alumni of fiu and

2604
02:20:11,891 --> 02:20:13,826
an active member at the islamic

2605
02:20:13,826 --> 02:20:15,694
center of greater miami glad to

2606
02:20:15,694 --> 02:20:16,828
be back here at the annual

2607
02:20:16,828 --> 02:20:18,697
budget meeting and we have

2608
02:20:18,697 --> 02:20:18,897
always made our positions

2609
02:20:18,897 --> 02:20:20,799
clear.

2610
02:20:20,799 --> 02:20:22,535
We have shown up, this isn't

2611
02:20:22,535 --> 02:20:23,702
the first time we've spoke on

2612
02:20:23,702 --> 02:20:25,671
5b, bonds and investments.

2613
02:20:25,671 --> 02:20:27,573
And I agree with the beautiful

2614
02:20:27,573 --> 02:20:29,474
prayer made earlier today that

2615
02:20:29,474 --> 02:20:32,474
the decisions you make today

2616
02:20:34,914 --> 02:20:37,160
should bring peace to all the

2617
02:20:37,160 --> 02:20:38,500
miami-dade residents here today

2618
02:20:38,500 --> 02:20:40,500
and our neighbors.

2619
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:43,356
We are not sleepless to know

2620
02:20:43,356 --> 02:20:46,356
the investments being made by

2621
02:20:57,937 --> 02:20:59,138
this commission are $151

2622
02:20:59,138 --> 02:21:01,410
million of our taxpayers are

2623
02:21:01,410 --> 02:21:02,943
going to israeli bonds which

2624
02:21:02,943 --> 02:21:04,177
are funding a genocide in gaza

2625
02:21:04,177 --> 02:21:06,112
and you want to talk facts on

2626
02:21:06,112 --> 02:21:07,981
the investment end of it, this

2627
02:21:07,981 --> 02:21:08,915
is not a sound bite, it's a bad

2628
02:21:08,915 --> 02:21:09,983
investment.

2629
02:21:09,983 --> 02:21:11,983
>>chair: appreciate it.

2630
02:21:18,291 --> 02:21:20,291
Go ahead.

2631
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:22,229
>>public speaker: good morning,

2632
02:21:22,229 --> 02:21:23,664
my name is sebastian gill, a

2633
02:21:23,664 --> 02:21:25,232
high school junior and my

2634
02:21:25,232 --> 02:21:27,632
address is protected from

2635
02:21:35,509 --> 02:21:37,478
disclosure.

2636
02:21:37,478 --> 02:21:38,612
I'm here in support of item 5d

2637
02:21:38,612 --> 02:21:40,615
which can transfer certain

2638
02:21:40,615 --> 02:21:42,617
county owned properties for $10

2639
02:21:42,617 --> 02:21:44,485
to habitat for humanity greater

2640
02:21:44,485 --> 02:21:46,487
miami and delete equity

2641
02:21:46,487 --> 02:21:47,688
development to build affordable

2642
02:21:47,688 --> 02:21:49,490
homes for lower income and

2643
02:21:49,490 --> 02:21:50,692
moderate income families.

2644
02:21:50,692 --> 02:21:53,461
As a high school student I'm

2645
02:21:53,461 --> 02:21:55,463
not buying a house today but my

2646
02:21:55,463 --> 02:21:56,664
generation will live with the

2647
02:21:56,664 --> 02:21:56,864
housing decisions you make

2648
02:21:56,864 --> 02:21:58,700
today.

2649
02:21:58,700 --> 02:22:01,700
I support using public lands

2650
02:22:11,313 --> 02:22:13,248
for affordable homeownership a

2651
02:22:13,248 --> 02:22:15,500
$10 transfer should come with a

2652
02:22:15,500 --> 02:22:16,319
clear public return.

2653
02:22:16,319 --> 02:22:18,119
Homes built on a clear timeline

2654
02:22:18,119 --> 02:22:20,560
and kept affordable for the

2655
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:20,256
people this program is meant to

2656
02:22:20,256 --> 02:22:22,240
serve.

2657
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:24,590
Because the resolution also

2658
02:22:24,590 --> 02:22:25,294
waives normal property transfer

2659
02:22:25,294 --> 02:22:27,162
procedures I asked the board to

2660
02:22:27,162 --> 02:22:29,640
ensure strong deadlines, clear

2661
02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:30,333
affordability requirements and

2662
02:22:30,333 --> 02:22:32,201
real accountability.

2663
02:22:32,201 --> 02:22:34,103
I don't want to live with my

2664
02:22:34,103 --> 02:22:36,380
parents until I'm 30 years old

2665
02:22:36,380 --> 02:22:37,239
so please support item 5d so

2666
02:22:37,239 --> 02:22:39,141
for years from now we can see

2667
02:22:39,141 --> 02:22:41,430
real homes built for real

2668
02:22:41,430 --> 02:22:42,545
people, thank you.

2669
02:22:42,545 --> 02:22:44,460
>>commissioner gilbert: thank

2670
02:22:44,460 --> 02:22:45,148
you MR. Gill.

2671
02:22:45,148 --> 02:22:47,490
>>chair: sebastian gill.

2672
02:22:47,490 --> 02:22:49,449
I have dorothy brown.

2673
02:23:21,452 --> 02:23:22,486
[Reading names] You are

2674
02:23:22,486 --> 02:23:23,653
recognized.

2675
02:23:23,653 --> 02:23:25,488
>>public speaker: thank you

2676
02:23:25,488 --> 02:23:28,324
chair and mayor, I'm here on

2677
02:23:28,324 --> 02:23:32,524
items 5b, 5x, 5g and 5h, I'm

2678
02:23:35,866 --> 02:23:37,167
against all of those yet I know

2679
02:23:37,167 --> 02:23:39,200
you stripped the task force but

2680
02:23:39,200 --> 02:23:42,200
I wish you appointed small

2681
02:23:52,217 --> 02:23:54,218
business advocates such as

2682
02:23:54,218 --> 02:23:55,386
myself, 4649 northwest. Second

2683
02:23:55,386 --> 02:23:57,221
avenue miami florida.

2684
02:23:57,221 --> 02:23:58,389
I believe as a small business

2685
02:23:58,389 --> 02:24:00,492
advocate we've been advocating

2686
02:24:00,492 --> 02:24:02,326
for decades for positive change

2687
02:24:02,326 --> 02:24:04,328
for small businesses which

2688
02:24:04,328 --> 02:24:06,397
included increasing the limited

2689
02:24:06,397 --> 02:24:08,365
revenues for trade contractors

2690
02:24:08,365 --> 02:24:10,202
from 5 million to 10 million,

2691
02:24:10,202 --> 02:24:11,403
same thing for general

2692
02:24:11,403 --> 02:24:13,372
contractors from 10 million to

2693
02:24:13,372 --> 02:24:15,206
50 million but now with the

2694
02:24:15,206 --> 02:24:17,206
strict recommendation is

2695
02:24:17,208 --> 02:24:17,442
increasing it from 250 up to 8

2696
02:24:17,442 --> 02:24:19,210
million.

2697
02:24:19,210 --> 02:24:20,379
The other thing we have been

2698
02:24:20,379 --> 02:24:22,214
advocating for is positive

2699
02:24:22,214 --> 02:24:23,415
changes in the construction

2700
02:24:23,415 --> 02:24:25,815
industry for small businesses

2701
02:24:31,357 --> 02:24:31,590
where we don't have any rights

2702
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:33,359
anymore.

2703
02:24:33,359 --> 02:24:35,461
We can have contracts taken

2704
02:24:35,461 --> 02:24:37,429
from us by general contractors,

2705
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:39,364
we also have been advocating

2706
02:24:39,364 --> 02:24:41,267
for payment for decades through

2707
02:24:41,267 --> 02:24:42,435
various administration

2708
02:24:42,435 --> 02:24:44,470
including software, that has

2709
02:24:44,470 --> 02:24:46,338
not happened and in the local

2710
02:24:46,338 --> 02:24:48,340
preferences where you have

2711
02:24:48,340 --> 02:24:49,609
small businesses that are micro

2712
02:24:49,609 --> 02:24:51,410
small businesses where they MAY

2713
02:24:51,410 --> 02:24:52,445
only have the owner and one

2714
02:24:52,445 --> 02:24:53,613
employee now that

2715
02:24:53,613 --> 02:24:55,515
recommendation is saying they

2716
02:24:55,515 --> 02:24:55,782
have to have a minimum of three

2717
02:24:55,782 --> 02:24:57,350
employees.

2718
02:24:57,350 --> 02:24:58,517
Ask you to not

2719
02:24:58,517 --> 02:25:00,353
move forward with this, we

2720
02:25:00,353 --> 02:25:02,355
should have had input with

2721
02:25:02,355 --> 02:25:04,357
small businesses in thank you.

2722
02:25:04,357 --> 02:25:06,357
>>public speaker: brenda

2723
02:25:10,931 --> 02:25:12,899
bettencourt, I am referencing 5

2724
02:25:12,899 --> 02:25:13,934
eat to reduce inefficiencies in

2725
02:25:13,934 --> 02:25:15,135
procurement.

2726
02:25:15,135 --> 02:25:16,936
Something we need to make sure

2727
02:25:16,936 --> 02:25:18,138
is when we apply to be a

2728
02:25:18,138 --> 02:25:22,338
provider or to ask for an sb

2729
02:25:22,776 --> 02:25:24,645
for the county, sometimes it's

2730
02:25:24,645 --> 02:25:26,513
too many steps to follow.

2731
02:25:26,513 --> 02:25:28,515
I have applied from the

2732
02:25:28,515 --> 02:25:29,717
provider as a primary care and

2733
02:25:29,717 --> 02:25:30,618
we've been trying, the system

2734
02:25:30,618 --> 02:25:32,618
doesn't work.

2735
02:25:34,788 --> 02:25:36,790
You go to check what is what

2736
02:25:36,790 --> 02:25:36,990
you need and the system doesn't

2737
02:25:36,990 --> 02:25:38,990
work.

2738
02:25:43,264 --> 02:25:45,232
You call and sometimes you get

2739
02:25:45,232 --> 02:25:47,167
somebody who answers the phone

2740
02:25:47,167 --> 02:25:48,135
but most of the time you don't

2741
02:25:48,135 --> 02:25:50,135
get an answer.

2742
02:25:50,738 --> 02:25:52,607
You do events of procurement

2743
02:25:52,607 --> 02:25:54,642
.You bring other cities or

2744
02:25:54,642 --> 02:25:56,610
other departments it's not

2745
02:25:56,610 --> 02:25:58,546
actually a procurement when you

2746
02:25:58,546 --> 02:25:58,879
need as a small business as an

2747
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:00,879
organization.

2748
02:26:01,549 --> 02:26:04,549
So is this new legislature

2749
02:26:09,658 --> 02:26:11,693
actually going to work?

2750
02:26:11,693 --> 02:26:12,861
100% I am for the person before

2751
02:26:12,861 --> 02:26:15,563
me, you need small businesses

2752
02:26:15,563 --> 02:26:16,765
to be part of that committee to

2753
02:26:16,765 --> 02:26:20,365
understand what we have to go

2754
02:26:21,470 --> 02:26:21,637
through for us to apply, thank

2755
02:26:21,637 --> 02:26:23,637
you.

2756
02:26:26,808 --> 02:26:28,777
>> ralph ferrera, 7520 south

2757
02:26:28,777 --> 02:26:32,377
railroad miami and we are also

2758
02:26:33,315 --> 02:26:34,516
certified small business

2759
02:26:34,516 --> 02:26:36,418
enterprise having been quoted

2760
02:26:36,418 --> 02:26:38,320
in miami-dade county and I

2761
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:40,720
respectfully express our strong

2762
02:26:43,492 --> 02:26:45,494
opposition to items 5f, g and h

2763
02:26:45,494 --> 02:26:45,828
which is scheduled for second

2764
02:26:45,828 --> 02:26:47,828
reading today.

2765
02:27:08,985 --> 02:27:10,954
The proposed elimination of the

2766
02:27:10,954 --> 02:27:12,923
firm level commitments and

2767
02:27:12,923 --> 02:27:14,924
small business advisory boards

2768
02:27:14,924 --> 02:27:16,126
would significantly reduce

2769
02:27:16,126 --> 02:27:17,927
opportunities and protections

2770
02:27:17,927 --> 02:27:19,280
for small businesses.

2771
02:27:19,280 --> 02:27:20,934
These measures have long

2772
02:27:20,934 --> 02:27:22,932
insured accountability,

2773
02:27:22,932 --> 02:27:24,101
meaningful participation and a

2774
02:27:24,101 --> 02:27:25,935
voice for the small business

2775
02:27:25,935 --> 02:27:27,935
community and counties

2776
02:27:27,938 --> 02:27:29,380
procurement process, finally we

2777
02:27:29,380 --> 02:27:31,750
know no certified small

2778
02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:32,943
business representative served

2779
02:27:32,943 --> 02:27:33,944
on the task force that

2780
02:27:33,944 --> 02:27:34,945
developed these

2781
02:27:34,945 --> 02:27:36,945
recommendations.

2782
02:27:36,947 --> 02:27:38,140
Changes of this magnitude would

2783
02:27:38,140 --> 02:27:39,116
include input from the

2784
02:27:39,116 --> 02:27:40,500
businesses most directly

2785
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:42,500
affected by it.

2786
02:27:42,119 --> 02:27:43,954
We respectfully urge the board

2787
02:27:43,954 --> 02:27:45,222
of county commissioners, the

2788
02:27:45,222 --> 02:27:47,900
mayor to reject this ordinance

2789
02:27:47,900 --> 02:27:49,260
on second reading and engage

2790
02:27:49,260 --> 02:27:50,962
the small business community in

2791
02:27:50,962 --> 02:27:52,964
any future reform efforts.

2792
02:27:52,964 --> 02:27:54,165
>>chair: anyone speaking in the

2793
02:27:54,165 --> 02:27:56,100
same line, anyone speaking in

2794
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:57,968
the same line make sure you all

2795
02:27:57,968 --> 02:27:59,971
read the substitute item

2796
02:27:59,971 --> 02:28:01,973
because I've removed everything

2797
02:28:01,973 --> 02:28:03,241
referencing, anything that is

2798
02:28:03,241 --> 02:28:05,760
against or not in favor of

2799
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:06,978
small businesses, that's been

2800
02:28:06,978 --> 02:28:08,112
removed from the item so make

2801
02:28:08,112 --> 02:28:09,146
sure you read the latest

2802
02:28:09,146 --> 02:28:11,490
version of the item.

2803
02:28:11,490 --> 02:28:12,951
Because I don't think you would

2804
02:28:12,951 --> 02:28:14,219
be up here asking for us to

2805
02:28:14,219 --> 02:28:16,187
oppose it if you saw this item

2806
02:28:16,187 --> 02:28:18,220
and it makes no reference to

2807
02:28:18,220 --> 02:28:19,123
the a lot of the things you

2808
02:28:19,123 --> 02:28:21,123
guys have mentioned.

2809
02:28:21,259 --> 02:28:23,228
But ma'am.

2810
02:28:23,228 --> 02:28:25,330
>>public speaker: I am with js

2811
02:28:25,330 --> 02:28:27,730
door installations, a certified

2812
02:28:28,366 --> 02:28:28,666
small business specialty

2813
02:28:28,666 --> 02:28:30,503
contractor.

2814
02:28:30,503 --> 02:28:32,371
And I support making the county

2815
02:28:32,371 --> 02:28:34,771
procurement faster and more

2816
02:28:41,113 --> 02:28:43,150
efficient but I am concerned

2817
02:28:43,150 --> 02:28:44,950
the file 26 1351 eliminates the

2818
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:46,952
small business advisory board.

2819
02:28:46,952 --> 02:28:49,952
And the small business project

2820
02:28:59,732 --> 02:29:01,732
review functions.

2821
02:29:02,569 --> 02:29:04,604
For a large county construction

2822
02:29:04,604 --> 02:29:05,838
project our specialty trade

2823
02:29:05,838 --> 02:29:07,707
might be a small percentage of

2824
02:29:07,707 --> 02:29:09,574
the total contract but that

2825
02:29:09,574 --> 02:29:11,577
percentage can represent a

2826
02:29:11,577 --> 02:29:13,580
significant opportunity for a

2827
02:29:13,580 --> 02:29:14,814
local small business, an

2828
02:29:14,814 --> 02:29:16,716
opportunity that creates local

2829
02:29:16,716 --> 02:29:17,583
jobs and keeps dollars in our

2830
02:29:17,583 --> 02:29:18,751
community.

2831
02:29:18,751 --> 02:29:20,721
For these projects go to the

2832
02:29:20,721 --> 02:29:23,590
market someone needs to ask are

2833
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:24,791
there qualified miami-dade

2834
02:29:24,791 --> 02:29:26,593
certified small businesses

2835
02:29:26,593 --> 02:29:27,693
capable of doing this work?

2836
02:29:27,693 --> 02:29:29,596
An we create a fair

2837
02:29:29,596 --> 02:29:29,830
opportunity for them to

2838
02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:31,598
compete?

2839
02:29:31,598 --> 02:29:33,600
If the current process is

2840
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:35,602
inefficient please improve it,

2841
02:29:35,602 --> 02:29:36,703
consolidated it, established

2842
02:29:36,703 --> 02:29:38,572
deadlines we had used

2843
02:29:38,572 --> 02:29:38,872
technology and hold the process

2844
02:29:38,872 --> 02:29:40,774
accountable.

2845
02:29:40,774 --> 02:29:42,743
>> rick brooks, waterford

2846
02:29:42,743 --> 02:29:44,578
district drive miami florida.

2847
02:29:44,578 --> 02:29:45,679
I am a proud graduate of

2848
02:29:45,679 --> 02:29:47,648
miami-dade county small

2849
02:29:47,648 --> 02:29:51,248
business program so I'm here to

2850
02:29:54,555 --> 02:29:56,524
speak in favor of maintaining

2851
02:29:56,524 --> 02:29:58,458
the small business advisory

2852
02:29:58,458 --> 02:30:00,361
board as well as hearing some

2853
02:30:00,361 --> 02:30:02,163
of their other concerns, these

2854
02:30:02,163 --> 02:30:03,531
substitutes did address some of

2855
02:30:03,531 --> 02:30:04,498
the issues but there are still

2856
02:30:04,498 --> 02:30:06,367
issues pending.

2857
02:30:06,367 --> 02:30:07,501
I want to applaud you all for

2858
02:30:07,501 --> 02:30:09,437
the substitute that removed

2859
02:30:09,437 --> 02:30:09,603
strict recommendation 33 and

2860
02:30:09,603 --> 02:30:11,373
35.

2861
02:30:11,373 --> 02:30:13,373
Those affect locally

2862
02:30:13,374 --> 02:30:14,575
headquartered businesses like

2863
02:30:14,575 --> 02:30:18,175
myself and that's it, thank you

2864
02:30:18,546 --> 02:30:20,546
very much.

2865
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:24,484
>>public speaker: good morning,

2866
02:30:24,586 --> 02:30:27,586
armando rodriguez and I support

2867
02:30:32,494 --> 02:30:34,496
your principal to incentivized

2868
02:30:34,496 --> 02:30:35,496
headquarters in district 7 in

2869
02:30:35,496 --> 02:30:37,496
miami-dade county.

2870
02:30:40,335 --> 02:30:42,204
I have not created any changes

2871
02:30:42,204 --> 02:30:43,439
but I want to make sure you

2872
02:30:43,439 --> 02:30:45,307
understand what is happening.

2873
02:30:45,307 --> 02:30:47,209
I'm here to oppose f, g and h,

2874
02:30:47,209 --> 02:30:49,609
these organizations have a

2875
02:30:52,114 --> 02:30:54,116
negative impact on our goals,

2876
02:30:54,116 --> 02:30:56,516
eliminating their commitment in

2877
02:30:56,652 --> 02:30:57,653
dissolving a small business

2878
02:30:57,653 --> 02:30:59,656
advisory board and opening

2879
02:30:59,656 --> 02:31:02,560
locally business benefits to

2880
02:31:03,926 --> 02:31:05,926
nonlocal firms.

2881
02:31:10,467 --> 02:31:10,767
That will overpower our local

2882
02:31:10,767 --> 02:31:12,767
businesses.

2883
02:31:13,436 --> 02:31:15,772
This was composed entirely for

2884
02:31:15,772 --> 02:31:18,172
non-fee representatives I have

2885
02:31:18,975 --> 02:31:19,843
strict protections from local

2886
02:31:19,843 --> 02:31:21,843
maintenance.

2887
02:31:23,680 --> 02:31:25,648
Not a single local business

2888
02:31:25,648 --> 02:31:28,480
representative was invited to

2889
02:31:28,510 --> 02:31:29,452
participate despite the county

2890
02:31:29,452 --> 02:31:31,852
being a local business.

2891
02:31:37,527 --> 02:31:38,795
That is placing a conflict of

2892
02:31:38,795 --> 02:31:39,562
interest where recommendations

2893
02:31:39,562 --> 02:31:41,562
can-

2894
02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:46,970
>>chair: thank you sir, ma'am.

2895
02:31:46,970 --> 02:31:48,720
>>public speaker: my name is

2896
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:49,974
maria and I live at 2271

2897
02:31:49,974 --> 02:31:52,974
southwest. 122nd court and I'm

2898
02:31:55,579 --> 02:31:56,747
here to speak on behalf of of

2899
02:31:56,747 --> 02:31:58,581
that small business community

2900
02:31:58,581 --> 02:31:59,784
because this particular

2901
02:31:59,784 --> 02:32:02,184
ordinance is very detrimental

2902
02:32:03,121 --> 02:32:05,122
to us, particularly the part

2903
02:32:05,122 --> 02:32:07,522
where it eliminates basically

2904
02:32:07,958 --> 02:32:10,358
the locally headquartered part

2905
02:32:11,662 --> 02:32:13,665
of the ordinance and also it

2906
02:32:13,665 --> 02:32:14,832
reduces the participation of

2907
02:32:14,832 --> 02:32:16,734
small business to a specified

2908
02:32:16,734 --> 02:32:20,334
number but it doesn't give any

2909
02:32:23,941 --> 02:32:25,210
leeway and lastly I want to

2910
02:32:25,210 --> 02:32:27,450
talk about the issue where if

2911
02:32:27,450 --> 02:32:30,450
you have less than three

2912
02:32:30,449 --> 02:32:32,383
employees you don't count it as

2913
02:32:32,383 --> 02:32:33,518
being at all which is

2914
02:32:33,518 --> 02:32:35,520
detrimental to me because I

2915
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:37,722
have less then three employees

2916
02:32:37,722 --> 02:32:39,725
and that's just an operation.

2917
02:32:39,725 --> 02:32:40,893
You need to think about whether

2918
02:32:40,893 --> 02:32:42,728
you're trying to help the

2919
02:32:42,728 --> 02:32:43,996
community or help large

2920
02:32:43,996 --> 02:32:45,130
businesses from some other area

2921
02:32:45,130 --> 02:32:48,130
of the country, thank you.

2922
02:32:49,735 --> 02:32:51,703
>>chair: thank you, sir.

2923
02:32:51,703 --> 02:32:52,938
>>public speaker: I'm a

2924
02:32:52,938 --> 02:32:55,338
principal with maduro group.

2925
02:32:57,443 --> 02:32:59,444
A PRESIDENT Of miami county

2926
02:32:59,444 --> 02:33:01,444
9935 northwest. 28th terrace.

2927
02:33:04,717 --> 02:33:05,718
I'm here to speak in support of

2928
02:33:05,718 --> 02:33:07,860
the sbe and locally

2929
02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:07,353
headquartered business

2930
02:33:07,353 --> 02:33:09,188
community.

2931
02:33:09,188 --> 02:33:11,858
I don't know if you know about

2932
02:33:11,858 --> 02:33:14,594
the majority of the employment

2933
02:33:14,594 --> 02:33:17,594
in miami-dade county is medium

2934
02:33:29,743 --> 02:33:31,645
to small sized firms.

2935
02:33:31,645 --> 02:33:32,846
So that strict committee

2936
02:33:32,846 --> 02:33:34,846
recommendations that impact

2937
02:33:35,615 --> 02:33:37,617
sbe's as well as the locally

2938
02:33:37,617 --> 02:33:39,617
headquartered business are

2939
02:33:39,619 --> 02:33:41,620
effective in destroying your

2940
02:33:41,620 --> 02:33:41,921
locally headquartered

2941
02:33:41,921 --> 02:33:43,458
businesses.

2942
02:33:43,458 --> 02:33:45,424
Why would you do that?

2943
02:33:45,424 --> 02:33:46,525
It's a question I asked you

2944
02:33:46,525 --> 02:33:48,360
please consider.

2945
02:33:48,360 --> 02:33:49,428
Why are we making the

2946
02:33:49,428 --> 02:33:51,363
requirements harder for

2947
02:33:51,363 --> 02:33:53,365
companies that are already

2948
02:33:53,365 --> 02:33:54,633
headquartered, chose to be

2949
02:33:54,633 --> 02:33:56,368
headquartered in miami-dade

2950
02:33:56,368 --> 02:33:58,403
county and creating a more

2951
02:33:58,403 --> 02:33:59,571
accessible pathway for firms

2952
02:33:59,571 --> 02:34:01,406
headquartered elsewhere.

2953
02:34:01,406 --> 02:34:02,607
You are one of the major

2954
02:34:02,607 --> 02:34:04,542
counties in the nation, you

2955
02:34:04,542 --> 02:34:06,611
want to attract big companies

2956
02:34:06,611 --> 02:34:08,546
to become locally headquartered

2957
02:34:08,546 --> 02:34:10,380
here, this is the big game and

2958
02:34:10,380 --> 02:34:12,416
if this as it is stands today

2959
02:34:12,416 --> 02:34:13,617
it will destroy your local

2960
02:34:13,617 --> 02:34:15,617
headquartered businesses as

2961
02:34:18,188 --> 02:34:20,900
well and is your sbe's.

2962
02:34:20,900 --> 02:34:23,900
As well as the production

2963
02:34:28,131 --> 02:34:30,132
capacity of your system.

2964
02:34:30,132 --> 02:34:32,100
>>public speaker: good morning

2965
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:35,100
staff, my name is franco

2966
02:34:38,907 --> 02:34:39,207
antonio, regional director for

2967
02:34:39,207 --> 02:34:40,975
engineering.

2968
02:34:40,975 --> 02:34:42,911
I want to talk to you about a

2969
02:34:42,911 --> 02:34:44,846
locally headquartered firms and

2970
02:34:44,846 --> 02:34:47,846
respectfully ask you to reject

2971
02:34:55,122 --> 02:34:57,240
recommendations 16, 25, 33,

2972
02:34:57,240 --> 02:34:57,324
3435 and 37, thank you and I'm

2973
02:34:57,324 --> 02:34:59,159
an engineer.

2974
02:34:59,159 --> 02:35:00,994
The small business cannot

2975
02:35:00,994 --> 02:35:03,394
survive on 10 or 15% number

2976
02:35:05,565 --> 02:35:06,766
one, number two the locally

2977
02:35:06,766 --> 02:35:08,668
headquarters are a bridge for

2978
02:35:08,668 --> 02:35:10,637
small businesses, I used to be

2979
02:35:10,637 --> 02:35:12,572
a small business and when you

2980
02:35:12,572 --> 02:35:14,572
are small business

2981
02:35:14,573 --> 02:35:16,750
undergraduate nobody wants to

2982
02:35:16,750 --> 02:35:17,776
work with you anymore because

2983
02:35:17,776 --> 02:35:19,711
the big companies compete in

2984
02:35:19,711 --> 02:35:23,311
the little ones don't want you

2985
02:35:30,355 --> 02:35:32,357
to compete so there's a little

2986
02:35:32,357 --> 02:35:33,524
sized where the locally

2987
02:35:33,524 --> 02:35:35,360
headquartered was created and

2988
02:35:35,360 --> 02:35:36,527
that's a bridge to go from a

2989
02:35:36,527 --> 02:35:38,396
small business to a midsized

2990
02:35:38,396 --> 02:35:40,330
business and hopefully in the

2991
02:35:40,330 --> 02:35:40,598
future grow into a large

2992
02:35:40,598 --> 02:35:42,399
business.

2993
02:35:42,399 --> 02:35:44,334
And I'm an engineer so I've got

2994
02:35:44,334 --> 02:35:47,934
to do the numbers rip current

2995
02:35:47,938 --> 02:35:49,906
locally headquartered ordinance

2996
02:35:49,906 --> 02:35:51,908
we have in place works perfect.

2997
02:35:51,908 --> 02:35:53,943
Let me tell you how it works,

2998
02:35:53,943 --> 02:35:55,778
it's perfect, whoever did it

2999
02:35:55,778 --> 02:35:56,879
did and excellent job.

3000
02:35:56,879 --> 02:35:58,814
It's 55% for the large

3001
02:35:58,814 --> 02:35:59,982
companies, they only have to

3002
02:35:59,982 --> 02:36:00,816
give to the local and small

3003
02:36:00,816 --> 02:36:02,816
55%.

3004
02:36:02,818 --> 02:36:03,986
Small companies 25% and locally

3005
02:36:03,986 --> 02:36:05,854
headquartered 20 and it's

3006
02:36:05,854 --> 02:36:07,790
perfect, everybody works and we

3007
02:36:07,790 --> 02:36:07,956
grow local headquarters, thank

3008
02:36:07,956 --> 02:36:09,956
you.

3009
02:36:15,897 --> 02:36:17,866
>>chair: MR. Zach,

3010
02:36:17,866 --> 02:36:19,100
>>public speaker: 235 north

3011
02:36:19,100 --> 02:36:20,835
miami avenue on behalf of my

3012
02:36:20,835 --> 02:36:21,135
client jen moore and

3013
02:36:21,135 --> 02:36:23,400
associates.

3014
02:36:23,400 --> 02:36:24,972
Janet moore was my first client

3015
02:36:24,972 --> 02:36:28,572
in my business and I've been

3016
02:36:35,849 --> 02:36:36,820
representing him since we

3017
02:36:36,820 --> 02:36:37,951
started.

3018
02:36:37,951 --> 02:36:38,284
And I'm proud to represent them

3019
02:36:38,284 --> 02:36:39,119
for that time.

3020
02:36:39,119 --> 02:36:41,200
Hey started

3021
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:42,888
their business in south florida

3022
02:36:42,888 --> 02:36:44,890
miami-dade and broward county.

3023
02:36:44,890 --> 02:36:45,958
Hey had an atr in miami-dade

3024
02:36:45,958 --> 02:36:47,993
county for the entirety of the

3025
02:36:47,993 --> 02:36:49,895
time and existed and there very

3026
02:36:49,895 --> 02:36:51,864
proud to have started in your

3027
02:36:51,864 --> 02:36:52,898
small business program and

3028
02:36:52,898 --> 02:36:54,990
graduated from it.

3029
02:36:54,990 --> 02:36:55,334
What I encourage you to do if

3030
02:36:55,334 --> 02:36:57,168
you look at all these changes

3031
02:36:57,168 --> 02:36:59,104
and not only these changes but

3032
02:36:59,104 --> 02:37:00,305
your current ordinances on the

3033
02:37:00,305 --> 02:37:02,206
books, some of them need to be

3034
02:37:02,206 --> 02:37:04,108
changed to really think about

3035
02:37:04,108 --> 02:37:05,243
whether or not they actually

3036
02:37:05,243 --> 02:37:07,111
increase efficiency in the

3037
02:37:07,111 --> 02:37:07,411
procurement process, I submit

3038
02:37:07,411 --> 02:37:09,313
they don't.

3039
02:37:09,313 --> 02:37:11,713
They probably invite preemption

3040
02:37:18,210 --> 02:37:19,222
from the state.

3041
02:37:19,222 --> 02:37:21,240
And the people you are leaving

3042
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:23,260
behind are the ones that

3043
02:37:23,260 --> 02:37:24,227
started their businesses here.

3044
02:37:24,227 --> 02:37:26,162
Graduate from the program as

3045
02:37:26,162 --> 02:37:28,298
you intend them to do as they

3046
02:37:28,298 --> 02:37:29,320
are supposed to do and then

3047
02:37:29,320 --> 02:37:29,999
grow.

3048
02:37:29,999 --> 02:37:30,199
>>chair: thank you.

3049
02:37:30,199 --> 02:37:32,199
Ll right.

3050
02:37:39,341 --> 02:37:40,441
I have let me see, this is

3051
02:37:40,441 --> 02:37:41,543
tricky because a lot of them

3052
02:37:41,543 --> 02:37:44,543
tried to sign up twice.

3053
02:37:48,516 --> 02:37:50,516
Deborah swain.

3054
02:37:58,659 --> 02:37:58,859
Did I already call alejandra?

3055
02:37:58,859 --> 02:38:00,859
Angel.

3056
02:38:30,922 --> 02:38:32,791
[Reading names]

3057
02:38:32,791 --> 02:38:34,791
>>public speaker: deborah

3058
02:38:34,792 --> 02:38:35,994
swain, pages business addresses

3059
02:38:35,994 --> 02:38:37,895
20625 southwest. 32nd avenue

3060
02:38:37,895 --> 02:38:39,865
and I'm here to speak on three

3061
02:38:39,865 --> 02:38:41,330
different items, 5f, 5g and 5h

3062
02:38:41,330 --> 02:38:42,934
and I wonder if I need to do

3063
02:38:42,934 --> 02:38:43,969
them all at the same time or

3064
02:38:43,969 --> 02:38:45,969
can I continue?

3065
02:38:45,971 --> 02:38:49,571
I'll be as brief as possible

3066
02:38:49,808 --> 02:38:51,777
risk with respect to the entire

3067
02:38:51,777 --> 02:38:53,812
process that came up with the

3068
02:38:53,812 --> 02:38:54,813
recommendations from the strict

3069
02:38:54,813 --> 02:38:56,470
committee to reduce

3070
02:38:56,470 --> 02:38:58,160
inefficiency in procurements,

3071
02:38:58,160 --> 02:38:59,785
as you heard there were no sbe

3072
02:38:59,785 --> 02:39:01,200
firms and no locally

3073
02:39:01,200 --> 02:39:02,955
headquartered firms represented

3074
02:39:02,955 --> 02:39:04,923
on the task force but however

3075
02:39:04,923 --> 02:39:06,892
many recommendations are on the

3076
02:39:06,892 --> 02:39:07,893
back of those particular types

3077
02:39:07,893 --> 02:39:09,796
of firms here.

3078
02:39:09,796 --> 02:39:11,797
I want to address

3079
02:39:11,797 --> 02:39:13,799
recommendation number nine for

3080
02:39:13,799 --> 02:39:15,801
example, elimination of firm

3081
02:39:15,801 --> 02:39:16,969
level commitments eliminates

3082
02:39:16,969 --> 02:39:18,803
protections in place to

3083
02:39:18,803 --> 02:39:21,803
individual firms in the event

3084
02:39:23,743 --> 02:39:24,977
they failed to honor their

3085
02:39:24,977 --> 02:39:26,746
commitments to these firms,

3086
02:39:26,746 --> 02:39:27,847
there is no consequence.

3087
02:39:27,847 --> 02:39:29,749
My recommendation is to

3088
02:39:29,749 --> 02:39:30,984
eliminate it and work with the

3089
02:39:30,984 --> 02:39:32,885
small business community to

3090
02:39:32,885 --> 02:39:35,755
come up with a way to address

3091
02:39:35,755 --> 02:39:37,755
this, recommendation number 10

3092
02:39:37,757 --> 02:39:38,924
eliminates the process for

3093
02:39:38,924 --> 02:39:40,924
establishing small business

3094
02:39:40,927 --> 02:39:42,762
goals reading this a standard

3095
02:39:42,762 --> 02:39:43,963
was put in place I understand

3096
02:39:43,963 --> 02:39:45,899
from staff it was intended to

3097
02:39:45,899 --> 02:39:46,165
be a minimum, can I go to the

3098
02:39:46,165 --> 02:39:47,967
next item.

3099
02:39:47,967 --> 02:39:48,801
>chair: that was your time,

3100
02:39:48,801 --> 02:39:50,771
thank you.

3101
02:39:50,771 --> 02:39:52,739
>>public speaker: my name is

3102
02:39:52,739 --> 02:39:54,274
juan presley, northeast 26th

3103
02:39:54,274 --> 02:39:56,642
terrace and I'm the owner of an

3104
02:39:56,642 --> 02:39:59,479
sp firm and today I'm speaking

3105
02:39:59,479 --> 02:40:00,140
as a chairperson with the sbe

3106
02:40:00,140 --> 02:40:00,748
architectural engineering

3107
02:40:00,748 --> 02:40:02,748
applied board.

3108
02:40:05,152 --> 02:40:07,120
This board consists of has been

3109
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:08,955
in existence for five years and

3110
02:40:08,955 --> 02:40:10,955
consists of 14 members,

3111
02:40:11,125 --> 02:40:13,127
presently there's three same

3112
02:40:13,127 --> 02:40:15,127
architects, for practicing

3113
02:40:15,129 --> 02:40:17,164
engineers and one fiu engineer

3114
02:40:17,164 --> 02:40:19,564
professional we have successful

3115
02:40:20,801 --> 02:40:23,201
rated advanced sounding boards

3116
02:40:23,904 --> 02:40:26,304
sbe issues and recommendation,

3117
02:40:27,808 --> 02:40:30,808
solutions to spd spd prepares

3118
02:40:34,349 --> 02:40:36,349
outreach certifications and

3119
02:40:36,417 --> 02:40:37,518
unit utilization as we advised

3120
02:40:37,518 --> 02:40:39,918
people on those reports.

3121
02:40:43,258 --> 02:40:44,559
On our last board meeting JULY

3122
02:40:44,559 --> 02:40:47,795
29 I'd like to point out about

3123
02:40:47,795 --> 02:40:49,795
the certified directory.

3124
02:40:54,102 --> 02:40:57,102
There are a total of 247.

3125
02:40:58,139 --> 02:40:59,374
>>chair: your minute is up.

3126
02:40:59,374 --> 02:41:01,744
The clock is they are, you are

3127
02:41:01,744 --> 02:41:03,744
over by 15 seconds.

3128
02:41:34,911 --> 02:41:36,911
Sir, hello.

3129
02:41:36,979 --> 02:41:38,781
>>public speaker: good morning,

3130
02:41:38,781 --> 02:41:39,949
mayor, distinguished

3131
02:41:39,949 --> 02:41:41,785
commissioners, my name is

3132
02:41:41,785 --> 02:41:42,952
angel, I'm a humble architect.

3133
02:41:42,952 --> 02:41:44,854
Will abide by the rules

3134
02:41:44,854 --> 02:41:45,922
today just in case, thank you

3135
02:41:45,922 --> 02:41:47,790
to our officers for our

3136
02:41:47,790 --> 02:41:49,325
service, I'd like to keep

3137
02:41:49,325 --> 02:41:50,927
things simple, that's the way

3138
02:41:50,927 --> 02:41:52,796
I've been since I've been a

3139
02:41:52,796 --> 02:41:53,931
young man, since I had dark

3140
02:41:53,931 --> 02:41:54,131
hair in those days.

3141
02:41:54,131 --> 02:41:55,965
Y office

3142
02:41:55,965 --> 02:41:57,934
is at 1236-year-old southwest

3143
02:41:57,934 --> 02:41:59,970
132nd court and this weekend

3144
02:41:59,970 --> 02:42:01,805
I'm a grandfather of one little

3145
02:42:01,805 --> 02:42:03,400
boy but this weekend I was told

3146
02:42:03,400 --> 02:42:04,908
both my daughters are pregnant

3147
02:42:04,908 --> 02:42:05,108
with two little girls a month

3148
02:42:05,108 --> 02:42:06,877
apart.

3149
02:42:06,877 --> 02:42:08,440
I've got to tell you, the

3150
02:42:08,440 --> 02:42:09,814
reason I'm here to talk about

3151
02:42:09,814 --> 02:42:11,820
these small business

3152
02:42:11,820 --> 02:42:12,983
administration or enterprise

3153
02:42:12,983 --> 02:42:14,885
deals is because you're going

3154
02:42:14,885 --> 02:42:16,190
to need more milk in the house.

3155
02:42:16,190 --> 02:42:16,253
A lot of you have seen me

3156
02:42:16,253 --> 02:42:18,550
around.

3157
02:42:18,550 --> 02:42:19,891
I am as a small business

3158
02:42:19,891 --> 02:42:21,893
architect here in the county

3159
02:42:21,893 --> 02:42:23,527
for 55 years, second generation

3160
02:42:23,527 --> 02:42:24,728
architect and I am the

3161
02:42:24,728 --> 02:42:26,564
architect of the westchester

3162
02:42:26,564 --> 02:42:28,532
library health and wellness

3163
02:42:28,532 --> 02:42:29,701
center which commissioner

3164
02:42:29,701 --> 02:42:31,803
rodriguez was there on the

3165
02:42:31,803 --> 02:42:33,771
grand opening and architect of

3166
02:42:33,771 --> 02:42:34,772
the james e scott restoration,

3167
02:42:34,772 --> 02:42:35,973
tremendous project,

3168
02:42:35,973 --> 02:42:36,173
commissioner hardemon was

3169
02:42:36,173 --> 02:42:37,875
there.

3170
02:42:37,875 --> 02:42:39,875
Ery emotional, fire

3171
02:42:43,181 --> 02:42:43,381
station 71 which mayor cava was

3172
02:42:43,381 --> 02:42:45,183
there.

3173
02:42:45,183 --> 02:42:46,417
I thought you were following

3174
02:42:46,417 --> 02:42:48,319
the rules, you'd better say

3175
02:42:48,319 --> 02:42:51,919
thank you, you got us excited.

3176
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:04,202
We will be making a difference.

3177
02:43:04,202 --> 02:43:07,500
>>public speaker: I am a high

3178
02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:09,740
school senior and cofounder of

3179
02:43:09,740 --> 02:43:11,900
miami-dade commission watch and

3180
02:43:11,900 --> 02:43:12,144
my address is protected from

3181
02:43:12,144 --> 02:43:14,130
disclosure, here to support

3182
02:43:14,130 --> 02:43:15,180
item 5f, 5f improves

3183
02:43:15,180 --> 02:43:17,216
accountability for small and

3184
02:43:17,216 --> 02:43:19,150
big businesses like across the

3185
02:43:19,150 --> 02:43:21,530
county, for example the county

3186
02:43:21,530 --> 02:43:23,220
has the ability to audit if a

3187
02:43:23,220 --> 02:43:25,240
company is local, expanding the

3188
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:26,158
process for companies across

3189
02:43:26,158 --> 02:43:27,993
the county but one rule is

3190
02:43:27,993 --> 02:43:29,996
missing, 5f deletes the line

3191
02:43:29,996 --> 02:43:31,998
that reserves contracts over

3192
02:43:31,998 --> 02:43:33,998
250,004 small businesses, the

3193
02:43:34,667 --> 02:43:36,568
introduction says a new rule

3194
02:43:36,568 --> 02:43:37,769
will replace it but lacks a

3195
02:43:37,769 --> 02:43:39,773
clear deadline and since 2024

3196
02:43:39,773 --> 02:43:41,708
the county doesn't publish any

3197
02:43:41,708 --> 02:43:43,743
of those awards so my ask is

3198
02:43:43,743 --> 02:43:45,611
simple, codify it and accounted

3199
02:43:45,611 --> 02:43:46,779
but put a deadline in the

3200
02:43:46,779 --> 02:43:49,582
ordinance in the same matter

3201
02:43:49,582 --> 02:43:50,850
today's public hearings provide

3202
02:43:50,850 --> 02:43:52,819
transparency and accountability

3203
02:43:52,819 --> 02:43:54,687
to local governments I ask you

3204
02:43:54,687 --> 02:43:56,589
uphold counties to the same

3205
02:43:56,589 --> 02:43:57,824
standards, thank you for your

3206
02:43:57,824 --> 02:43:59,693
time and please listen to the

3207
02:43:59,693 --> 02:44:00,594
words of your residence, thank

3208
02:44:00,594 --> 02:44:01,862
you.

3209
02:44:01,862 --> 02:44:02,696
>>commissioner gilbert: point

3210
02:44:02,696 --> 02:44:04,598
of order.

3211
02:44:04,598 --> 02:44:05,232
The point of order is I want

3212
02:44:05,232 --> 02:44:07,234
everybody to be quiet.

3213
02:44:07,234 --> 02:44:09,168
He was speaking and making some

3214
02:44:09,168 --> 02:44:12,768
great points and there's a lot

3215
02:44:17,244 --> 02:44:19,179
of conversations.

3216
02:44:19,179 --> 02:44:21,820
I know we haven't seen each

3217
02:44:21,820 --> 02:44:23,170
other in a wild, calm down so

3218
02:44:23,170 --> 02:44:26,617
we can pay attention to the

3219
02:44:28,888 --> 02:44:29,924
speakers, thank you.

3220
02:44:29,924 --> 02:44:31,826
>>chair: ma'am.

3221
02:44:31,826 --> 02:44:33,828
>>public speaker: thank you

3222
02:44:33,828 --> 02:44:35,830
commissioners, mayor kava, my

3223
02:44:35,830 --> 02:44:38,230
address is 1431 ne. 201st

3224
02:44:41,235 --> 02:44:43,170
terrace miami florida and I'm

3225
02:44:43,170 --> 02:44:44,339
the owner of grimes consulting

3226
02:44:44,339 --> 02:44:46,173
and sbe certified firm in

3227
02:44:46,173 --> 02:44:47,341
miami-dade county and I issued

3228
02:44:47,341 --> 02:44:49,510
a statement summary for your

3229
02:44:49,510 --> 02:44:49,845
review, you should have in

3230
02:44:49,845 --> 02:44:50,411
front of you.

3231
02:44:50,411 --> 02:44:52,314
Our ask is simple.

3232
02:44:52,314 --> 02:44:54,182
On this item we urge you to

3233
02:44:54,182 --> 02:44:56,184
defer it and require a public

3234
02:44:56,184 --> 02:44:57,285
small business analysis,

3235
02:44:57,285 --> 02:44:59,685
efficiency matters and I

3236
02:45:04,292 --> 02:45:06,328
support that but so does

3237
02:45:06,328 --> 02:45:08,296
injuring local businesses have

3238
02:45:08,296 --> 02:45:08,563
meaningful access to county

3239
02:45:08,563 --> 02:45:10,332
contracts.

3240
02:45:10,332 --> 02:45:11,467
Before changing these

3241
02:45:11,467 --> 02:45:13,368
protections small business

3242
02:45:13,368 --> 02:45:16,368
owners need to understand who

3243
02:45:21,110 --> 02:45:22,978
benefits, who loses opportunity

3244
02:45:22,978 --> 02:45:23,279
and how accountability will be

3245
02:45:23,279 --> 02:45:25,800
maintained.

3246
02:45:25,800 --> 02:45:26,915
Do not consider 5f until the

3247
02:45:26,915 --> 02:45:28,150
county releases a small

3248
02:45:28,150 --> 02:45:30,153
business impact analysis and

3249
02:45:30,153 --> 02:45:32,121
hold meaningful consultations

3250
02:45:32,121 --> 02:45:32,989
with affected businesses.

3251
02:45:32,989 --> 02:45:34,924
thank you.

3252
02:45:34,924 --> 02:45:36,910
>>chair: thank you ma'am.

3253
02:45:36,910 --> 02:45:38,491
I've got mark drummond.

3254
02:45:40,296 --> 02:45:40,463
Mark and marianna.

3255
02:45:40,463 --> 02:45:42,463
Josc

3256
02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:47,100
[Reading names] Those are my

3257
02:45:54,810 --> 02:45:57,210
last 4. Mark drummond, sir.

3258
02:45:59,810 --> 02:46:01,840
>>public speaker: mark drummond

3259
02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:04,840
, we are a certified small

3260
02:46:06,823 --> 02:46:08,691
business in the county.

3261
02:46:08,691 --> 02:46:09,860
We want to express our strong

3262
02:46:09,860 --> 02:46:11,795
opposition to the proposed

3263
02:46:11,795 --> 02:46:14,195
ordinance impacting amd forms.

3264
02:46:14,931 --> 02:46:15,980
I've publicly spoken about it,

3265
02:46:15,980 --> 02:46:17,670
5g.

3266
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:20,638
I think it would be detrimental

3267
02:46:20,638 --> 02:46:22,473
to small business.

3268
02:46:22,473 --> 02:46:24,475
While it's presented the

3269
02:46:24,475 --> 02:46:25,609
measure to improve procurement

3270
02:46:25,609 --> 02:46:27,478
efficiency and many of its

3271
02:46:27,478 --> 02:46:29,878
provisions will have the

3272
02:46:33,684 --> 02:46:35,684
opposite effect creating

3273
02:46:35,686 --> 02:46:37,686
significant disadvantages for

3274
02:46:37,721 --> 02:46:38,922
local small businesses while

3275
02:46:38,922 --> 02:46:40,691
disproportionately benefiting

3276
02:46:40,691 --> 02:46:41,892
large multinational

3277
02:46:41,892 --> 02:46:43,694
organizations, most concerning

3278
02:46:43,694 --> 02:46:44,929
is those changes appear to

3279
02:46:44,929 --> 02:46:47,329
undermine decades of successful

3280
02:46:47,698 --> 02:46:48,699
small business participation on

3281
02:46:48,699 --> 02:46:50,699
county projects.

3282
02:46:51,703 --> 02:46:53,571
It's particularly worrisome of

3283
02:46:53,571 --> 02:46:53,771
the composition of the task

3284
02:46:53,771 --> 02:46:55,540
force.

3285
02:46:55,540 --> 02:46:57,475
Not a single member of the

3286
02:46:57,475 --> 02:46:59,760
246th certified amd small

3287
02:46:59,760 --> 02:47:00,679
businesses or on that committee

3288
02:47:00,679 --> 02:47:02,547
and only three of its four key

3289
02:47:02,547 --> 02:47:02,747
members currently represent amd

3290
02:47:02,747 --> 02:47:04,747
firms.

3291
02:47:05,116 --> 02:47:08,716
We hope you would consider this

3292
02:47:22,701 --> 02:47:23,702
and vote to eliminate those

3293
02:47:23,702 --> 02:47:25,671
provisions.

3294
02:47:25,671 --> 02:47:26,971
>>public speaker: good morning

3295
02:47:26,971 --> 02:47:28,874
everyone, delta consultants, I

3296
02:47:28,874 --> 02:47:29,809
am a small business owner in

3297
02:47:29,809 --> 02:47:31,809
miami-dade county.

3298
02:47:31,877 --> 02:47:33,846
Home address is 4841 northwest.

3299
02:47:33,846 --> 02:47:35,781
First avenue and I come here to

3300
02:47:35,781 --> 02:47:36,949
second basically I think my

3301
02:47:36,949 --> 02:47:38,784
colleagues have mentioned the

3302
02:47:38,784 --> 02:47:40,687
small business community and a

3303
02:47:40,687 --> 02:47:41,854
and the world in this county.

3304
02:47:41,854 --> 02:47:43,789
It's extremely important.

3305
02:47:43,789 --> 02:47:44,924
Not only to develop the local

3306
02:47:44,924 --> 02:47:46,692
workforce but also it helps

3307
02:47:46,692 --> 02:47:48,693
keep and maintains and

3308
02:47:48,693 --> 02:47:49,762
accessibility to the county for

3309
02:47:49,762 --> 02:47:51,697
local firms that are

3310
02:47:51,697 --> 02:47:52,832
knowledgeable of the issues

3311
02:47:52,832 --> 02:47:54,701
within miami-dade county

3312
02:47:54,701 --> 02:47:55,868
itself, more than any other

3313
02:47:55,868 --> 02:47:57,837
company that can come from

3314
02:47:57,837 --> 02:47:59,873
outside of the local county.

3315
02:47:59,873 --> 02:48:03,473
We as the sp community together

3316
02:48:08,681 --> 02:48:09,816
months ago a letter to all of

3317
02:48:09,816 --> 02:48:10,951
you that was sent out and

3318
02:48:10,951 --> 02:48:12,886
signed by over 100 firms.

3319
02:48:12,886 --> 02:48:14,854
I urge you to look into those

3320
02:48:14,854 --> 02:48:17,854
letters and read it carefully.

3321
02:48:22,963 --> 02:48:24,970
This was sent back in MARCH 11

3322
02:48:24,970 --> 02:48:24,898
it was signed by over 100

3323
02:48:24,898 --> 02:48:26,133
firms.

3324
02:48:26,133 --> 02:48:28,101
Today I asked we both know or

3325
02:48:28,101 --> 02:48:28,902
at least defer items 5f, 5g and

3326
02:48:28,902 --> 02:48:30,710
5h.

3327
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:32,600
These items should not pass

3328
02:48:32,600 --> 02:48:33,908
without meaningful impact from

3329
02:48:33,908 --> 02:48:34,174
the sp community.

3330
02:48:34,174 --> 02:48:36,430
>>.

3331
02:48:36,430 --> 02:48:37,440
>>public speaker: josc process

3332
02:48:37,440 --> 02:48:39,444
here for item 5m.

3333
02:48:42,283 --> 02:48:44,151
This is a plot waiver.

3334
02:48:44,151 --> 02:48:45,353
This is started three years

3335
02:48:45,353 --> 02:48:47,188
ago, the first time the public

3336
02:48:47,188 --> 02:48:49,891
gets to hear about it read

3337
02:48:49,891 --> 02:48:51,250
every time I've asked about it

3338
02:48:51,250 --> 02:48:52,894
and I've knocked on all the

3339
02:48:52,894 --> 02:48:57,940
doors as some of you I'm proud

3340
02:49:07,975 --> 02:49:09,176
to see you in front of this

3341
02:49:09,176 --> 02:49:11,790
dais and I'm proud you are up

3342
02:49:11,790 --> 02:49:13,480
here and I thank you for your

3343
02:49:13,480 --> 02:49:14,983
service because I know this is

3344
02:49:14,983 --> 02:49:16,985
difficult but I've knocked on

3345
02:49:16,985 --> 02:49:18,119
doors and nobody wants this

3346
02:49:18,119 --> 02:49:19,220
development and this

3347
02:49:19,220 --> 02:49:21,123
development is basically a

3348
02:49:21,123 --> 02:49:23,250
condo association in the middle

3349
02:49:23,250 --> 02:49:24,193
of a single-family own

3350
02:49:24,193 --> 02:49:26,600
community, they say it's two

3351
02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:26,962
duplexes but these units are up

3352
02:49:26,962 --> 02:49:28,830
or $1.85 million each townhome.

3353
02:49:28,830 --> 02:49:30,800
On the corner of 63rd avenue

3354
02:49:30,800 --> 02:49:32,835
and 27th street, this is total

3355
02:49:32,835 --> 02:49:34,703
villains, this is total terrace

3356
02:49:34,703 --> 02:49:35,400
as we like to call it

3357
02:49:35,400 --> 02:49:36,806
eastchester.

3358
02:49:36,806 --> 02:49:37,939
This is a single-family home

3359
02:49:37,939 --> 02:49:39,374
community over 100 years old

3360
02:49:39,374 --> 02:49:41,374
built by veterans.

3361
02:49:41,711 --> 02:49:42,440
We would ask that you keep it

3362
02:49:42,440 --> 02:49:43,879
single-family.

3363
02:49:43,879 --> 02:49:45,715
I am so happy all of you voted

3364
02:49:45,715 --> 02:49:45,915
against this plot waiver in

3365
02:49:45,915 --> 02:49:47,850
JULY.

3366
02:49:47,850 --> 02:49:49,719
The gentleman asked what is

3367
02:49:49,719 --> 02:49:50,887
proverbial but with this board

3368
02:49:50,887 --> 02:49:52,789
and go ahead and continued

3369
02:49:52,789 --> 02:49:55,789
building until it's off, thank

3370
02:50:01,297 --> 02:50:03,199
you for being on time.

3371
02:50:03,199 --> 02:50:04,200
>> survey palm beach speaking

3372
02:50:04,200 --> 02:50:06,202
about the blue nest

3373
02:50:06,202 --> 02:50:07,370
developments, obviously lunesta

3374
02:50:07,370 --> 02:50:09,205
has developed a lot of areas

3375
02:50:09,205 --> 02:50:11,605
around here, wild florida

3376
02:50:30,394 --> 02:50:32,429
growth has a lot of concerns

3377
02:50:32,429 --> 02:50:34,365
but massive builds, whatever it

3378
02:50:34,365 --> 02:50:36,366
is, blue nest is at the core of

3379
02:50:36,366 --> 02:50:37,401
that but not the only one.

3380
02:50:37,401 --> 02:50:39,403
It's unfortunate there is

3381
02:50:39,403 --> 02:50:41,239
limited opportunity to speak on

3382
02:50:41,239 --> 02:50:42,339
the elements like this,

3383
02:50:42,339 --> 02:50:44,241
furthermore item of kelly

3384
02:50:44,241 --> 02:50:45,442
tractor as we talked about for

3385
02:50:45,442 --> 02:50:47,278
the eighth time but technically

3386
02:50:47,278 --> 02:50:48,512
we are not allowed to talk on

3387
02:50:48,512 --> 02:50:50,214
it but it's a huge development

3388
02:50:50,214 --> 02:50:51,415
in the everglades and

3389
02:50:51,415 --> 02:50:53,415
functioning everglades.

3390
02:50:53,416 --> 02:50:55,485
We have clean water over there,

3391
02:50:55,485 --> 02:50:57,287
it cleans herons, gators, all

3392
02:50:57,287 --> 02:50:59,221
that beautiful wildlife and

3393
02:50:59,221 --> 02:51:00,323
kelly tractor is going on the

3394
02:51:00,323 --> 02:51:02,225
wrong side of the urban

3395
02:51:02,225 --> 02:51:03,326
development boundary item

3396
02:51:03,326 --> 02:51:05,228
should never have been

3397
02:51:05,228 --> 02:51:06,395
considered because it's on the

3398
02:51:06,395 --> 02:51:08,296
wrong side of the boundary

3399
02:51:08,296 --> 02:51:10,232
should have been look on the

3400
02:51:10,232 --> 02:51:12,234
other side where you have

3401
02:51:12,234 --> 02:51:13,435
permitted development and

3402
02:51:13,435 --> 02:51:15,237
residential dense housing and

3403
02:51:15,237 --> 02:51:16,405
not just put the wild

3404
02:51:16,405 --> 02:51:18,306
everglades at risk of rural

3405
02:51:18,306 --> 02:51:19,441
areas and it must not happen as

3406
02:51:19,441 --> 02:51:21,375
bc wild florida develop it

3407
02:51:21,375 --> 02:51:21,643
should not be approved today,

3408
02:51:21,643 --> 02:51:23,344
thank you.

3409
02:51:23,344 --> 02:51:25,344
>chair: your name.

3410
02:51:25,446 --> 02:51:27,381
>>public speaker: I registered

3411
02:51:27,381 --> 02:51:28,249
but for some reason I wasn't

3412
02:51:28,249 --> 02:51:29,350
called.

3413
02:51:29,350 --> 02:51:30,584
>>chair: did I call sean?

3414
02:51:30,584 --> 02:51:32,419
You can approach as well.

3415
02:51:32,419 --> 02:51:34,288
>public speaker: CHAIRMAN,

3416
02:51:34,288 --> 02:51:36,223
mayor and as I said my name is

3417
02:51:36,223 --> 02:51:36,523
andrea's, 5875 77th terrace in

3418
02:51:36,523 --> 02:51:38,225
south miami.

3419
02:51:38,225 --> 02:51:41,694
I am also a member of

3420
02:51:41,694 --> 02:51:43,563
leadership miami class xlviii,

3421
02:51:43,563 --> 02:51:44,764
I came to miami to earn my

3422
02:51:44,764 --> 02:51:47,567
masters degree at fiu so I've

3423
02:51:47,567 --> 02:51:51,167
been part of the community, I

3424
02:51:52,671 --> 02:51:53,806
settled my roots here and not

3425
02:51:53,806 --> 02:51:55,674
experienced what these

3426
02:51:55,674 --> 02:51:58,176
humidities have done from my

3427
02:51:58,176 --> 02:51:59,344
growth and that's why I

3428
02:51:59,344 --> 02:52:01,279
recognizemaking a long-term

3429
02:52:01,279 --> 02:52:03,882
impact for some of the large

3430
02:52:03,882 --> 02:52:05,830
companies is a benefit for the

3431
02:52:05,830 --> 02:52:07,886
community and I am one example

3432
02:52:07,886 --> 02:52:10,421
of those, I contributed back

3433
02:52:10,421 --> 02:52:11,522
and I continue to do it so I

3434
02:52:11,522 --> 02:52:13,424
support the large local

3435
02:52:13,424 --> 02:52:13,858
designation and I ask you to do

3436
02:52:13,858 --> 02:52:16,258
the same, thank you.

3437
02:52:22,366 --> 02:52:24,368
>>chair: thank you, sir.

3438
02:52:24,368 --> 02:52:26,135
>> sean lozano, I reside at

3439
02:52:26,135 --> 02:52:28,535
9160 royal palm boulevard and

3440
02:52:38,413 --> 02:52:40,416
is speaking about 5h, financial

3441
02:52:40,416 --> 02:52:42,484
equity is the equivalent of

3442
02:52:42,484 --> 02:52:43,619
financial responsibility and as

3443
02:52:43,619 --> 02:52:45,621
a former police officer I'd

3444
02:52:45,621 --> 02:52:47,556
like to remind this commission

3445
02:52:47,556 --> 02:52:49,490
and people of dade county of

3446
02:52:49,490 --> 02:52:51,426
the 210 disaster which was the

3447
02:52:51,426 --> 02:52:52,427
improper invocation of

3448
02:52:52,427 --> 02:52:54,395
financial urgency.

3449
02:52:54,395 --> 02:52:56,397
It cost first responders

3450
02:52:56,397 --> 02:52:58,399
thousands if not hundreds of

3451
02:52:58,399 --> 02:52:59,600
thousands in benefit and income

3452
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:01,602
and they are still picking up

3453
02:53:01,602 --> 02:53:03,604
the pieces of that today and I

3454
02:53:03,604 --> 02:53:06,400
urge this powerful commission

3455
02:53:06,406 --> 02:53:07,607
to do more than platitudes,

3456
02:53:07,607 --> 02:53:09,609
something I would say all the

3457
02:53:09,609 --> 02:53:11,545
time I would hear politicians

3458
02:53:11,545 --> 02:53:13,413
say we back the blue but how do

3459
02:53:13,413 --> 02:53:14,647
you back the blue red the

3460
02:53:14,647 --> 02:53:16,549
commissioners on this council

3461
02:53:16,549 --> 02:53:18,484
and that the blue by taking

3462
02:53:18,484 --> 02:53:20,420
action to invest locally in the

3463
02:53:20,420 --> 02:53:21,587
best of us which is our first

3464
02:53:21,587 --> 02:53:23,488
responders men and women in

3465
02:53:23,488 --> 02:53:24,289
blue and red and those who will

3466
02:53:24,289 --> 02:53:26,158
do what others cannot.

3467
02:53:26,158 --> 02:53:27,393
>>chair: those are the names I

3468
02:53:27,393 --> 02:53:28,326
have, anybody that I did not

3469
02:53:28,326 --> 02:53:30,326
call their name?

3470
02:53:37,535 --> 02:53:37,768
So public hearing is now

3471
02:53:37,768 --> 02:53:39,704
closed.

3472
02:53:39,704 --> 02:53:42,390
Does anyone wish to bifurcate

3473
02:53:42,390 --> 02:53:43,207
any items?

3474
02:53:43,207 --> 02:53:45,207
Commissioner cohen higgins,

3475
02:53:50,814 --> 02:53:52,814
which ones.

3476
02:53:52,816 --> 02:53:53,950
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

3477
02:53:53,950 --> 02:53:55,952
bifurcate 5d for a motion.

3478
02:53:55,952 --> 02:53:58,952
If the attorneys can please

3479
02:54:00,357 --> 02:54:02,292
read my motion on 5d.

3480
02:54:02,292 --> 02:54:03,426
>>chair: I was going to but

3481
02:54:03,426 --> 02:54:05,826
give me a second.

3482
02:54:19,774 --> 02:54:21,420
Any, commissioner regalado.

3483
02:54:21,420 --> 02:54:22,944
>>commissioner regalado: there

3484
02:54:22,944 --> 02:54:24,946
was a request at the beginning

3485
02:54:24,946 --> 02:54:26,848
of the meeting to bifurcate

3486
02:54:26,848 --> 02:54:28,882
some of the fives so if we can

3487
02:54:28,882 --> 02:54:30,784
have the attorneys repeat that,

3488
02:54:30,784 --> 02:54:31,986
specifically I think we've

3489
02:54:31,986 --> 02:54:33,920
divided all the procurement

3490
02:54:33,920 --> 02:54:34,855
ones up so we can go through

3491
02:54:34,855 --> 02:54:36,957
them one by one.

3492
02:54:36,957 --> 02:54:38,792
>> I had request to bifurcate

3493
02:54:38,792 --> 02:54:39,993
5d just now by commissioner

3494
02:54:39,993 --> 02:54:41,995
cohen higgins, 5f substitute,

3495
02:54:41,995 --> 02:54:43,863
5g substitute, 5h substitute,

3496
02:54:43,863 --> 02:54:48,630
5m, 5p, 5u so those would be

3497
02:54:51,637 --> 02:54:54,637
the ones that are bifurcated.

3498
02:54:56,275 --> 02:54:59,875
5m, the five are bifurcated, 5m

3499
02:55:00,946 --> 02:55:03,946
as in mary, and 5u.

3500
02:55:13,291 --> 02:55:14,525
>> that is just to vote no.

3501
02:55:14,525 --> 02:55:18,725
>> I have 5m and I like to

3502
02:55:20,197 --> 02:55:21,432
speak on.

3503
02:55:21,432 --> 02:55:23,832
So commissioner gilbert moves

3504
02:55:24,101 --> 02:55:26,103
5p and youth, seconded by

3505
02:55:26,103 --> 02:55:28,103
commissioner higgins, clerk

3506
02:55:36,179 --> 02:55:38,579
please call the gold.

3507
02:55:43,419 --> 02:55:43,585
Please call the roll on 5p and

3508
02:55:43,585 --> 02:55:45,585
5u.

3509
02:55:49,725 --> 02:55:51,459
>>senator garcia: no.

3510
02:55:51,459 --> 02:55:53,459
>>commissioner hardemon:

3511
02:56:13,713 --> 02:56:14,681
>>commissioner lopez: motion

3512
02:56:14,681 --> 02:56:16,583
passes 11 to 1.

3513
02:56:16,583 --> 02:56:18,584
>>chair: I will entertain a

3514
02:56:18,584 --> 02:56:21,921
motion on the remainder of the

3515
02:56:21,921 --> 02:56:22,955
items not bifurcated.

3516
02:56:22,955 --> 02:56:25,955
We have a motion by

3517
02:56:26,391 --> 02:56:28,391
commissioner cohen higgins.

3518
02:56:30,262 --> 02:56:32,262
>> I thought 5e.

3519
02:56:36,902 --> 02:56:37,969
Those were all bifurcated MADAM

3520
02:56:37,969 --> 02:56:40,369
Attorney, were they not?

3521
02:56:40,905 --> 02:56:43,905
>> I read those as bifurcated.

3522
02:56:48,446 --> 02:56:49,580
>> I said the non-bifurcated

3523
02:56:49,580 --> 02:56:51,582
items so we have a motion,

3524
02:56:51,582 --> 02:56:53,550
second by commissioner gilbert.

3525
02:56:53,550 --> 02:56:55,452
A clerk please call the roll.

3526
02:56:55,452 --> 02:56:57,452
>> senator garcia.

3527
02:57:14,970 --> 02:57:16,970
Commissioner gilbert.

3528
02:57:18,440 --> 02:57:20,440
Motion passes unanimously.

3529
02:57:26,381 --> 02:57:27,382
>>chair: you are recognized on

3530
02:57:27,382 --> 02:57:29,382
5d.

3531
02:57:29,384 --> 02:57:30,618
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

3532
02:57:30,618 --> 02:57:32,520
want to recognize the young man

3533
02:57:32,520 --> 02:57:34,388
that came, the 11th grader

3534
02:57:34,388 --> 02:57:35,623
sebastian gill, thank you for

3535
02:57:35,623 --> 02:57:37,458
your testimony in support of 5d

3536
02:57:37,458 --> 02:57:39,392
and I want to reassure the

3537
02:57:39,392 --> 02:57:41,395
young man who did an excellent

3538
02:57:41,395 --> 02:57:44,331
job that 5d does have strong

3539
02:57:44,331 --> 02:57:45,532
deadlines and accountability in

3540
02:57:45,532 --> 02:57:47,932
accordance to offering some

3541
02:57:48,301 --> 02:57:49,535
real affordable homeownership

3542
02:57:49,535 --> 02:57:51,337
opportunities in district 8 so

3543
02:57:51,337 --> 02:57:53,372
thank you to the young man MR.

3544
02:57:53,372 --> 02:57:56,372
Sebastian gill to the attorney

3545
02:57:59,211 --> 02:58:01,146
can you read my motion on 5d.

3546
02:58:01,146 --> 02:58:02,314
>> moved to amend agenda item

3547
02:58:02,314 --> 02:58:04,283
5d to remove the property

3548
02:58:04,283 --> 02:58:06,683
currently bearing folio number

3549
02:58:08,887 --> 02:58:10,880
1078 1200706 40 from

3550
02:58:10,880 --> 02:58:12,880
consideration for conveyance

3551
02:58:16,160 --> 02:58:18,162
habitat for humanity of greater

3552
02:58:18,162 --> 02:58:19,229
miami and of florida not for

3553
02:58:19,229 --> 02:58:21,165
profit and delete all

3554
02:58:21,165 --> 02:58:22,333
references to such folio to the

3555
02:58:22,333 --> 02:58:26,533
end of the item and make any

3556
02:58:30,907 --> 02:58:32,907
necessary conforming changes.

3557
02:58:32,909 --> 02:58:34,909
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

3558
02:58:34,911 --> 02:58:36,450
there are other folios, they

3559
02:58:36,450 --> 02:58:37,914
requested removal of this

3560
02:58:37,914 --> 02:58:39,182
particular parcel which became

3561
02:58:39,182 --> 02:58:40,883
difficult for them to construct

3562
02:58:40,883 --> 02:58:42,118
on so they requested this

3563
02:58:42,118 --> 02:58:44,860
particular folio you removed

3564
02:58:44,860 --> 02:58:46,486
from consideration, thank you

3565
02:58:54,862 --> 02:58:56,764
MR. Chair.

3566
02:58:56,764 --> 02:58:57,999
>>chair: seconded by

3567
02:58:57,999 --> 02:58:58,766
commissioner gilbert, roll

3568
02:58:58,766 --> 02:58:59,967
call.

3569
02:58:59,967 --> 02:59:01,869
Ll in favor signify by

3570
02:59:01,869 --> 02:59:02,203
saying aye, opposed, nay. Show

3571
02:59:02,203 --> 02:59:03,700
the item past.

3572
02:59:03,700 --> 02:59:05,700
Ommissioner on

3573
02:59:15,982 --> 02:59:17,917
5 and.

3574
02:59:17,917 --> 02:59:19,119
>> is came to my attention in

3575
02:59:19,119 --> 02:59:21,540
APRIL at which time I requested

3576
02:59:21,540 --> 02:59:22,880
a deferral because I got a lot

3577
02:59:22,880 --> 02:59:23,923
of feedback.

3578
02:59:23,923 --> 02:59:25,925
I went myself by this

3579
02:59:25,925 --> 02:59:27,159
neighborhood schenley park, I'm

3580
02:59:27,159 --> 02:59:28,994
familiar with his neighborhood

3581
02:59:28,994 --> 02:59:30,896
and when I found out it was a

3582
02:59:30,896 --> 02:59:32,970
proposal were two duplexes on

3583
02:59:32,970 --> 02:59:34,990
these small parcels of land it

3584
02:59:34,990 --> 02:59:36,680
didn't make sense or conform to

3585
02:59:36,680 --> 02:59:38,102
the neighborhood so I asked for

3586
02:59:38,102 --> 02:59:40,500
a deferral we could figure out

3587
02:59:40,500 --> 02:59:41,906
what we could do and in doing

3588
02:59:41,906 --> 02:59:43,908
my research I found out where

3589
02:59:43,908 --> 02:59:45,142
along the line there was an

3590
02:59:45,142 --> 02:59:47,542
ordinance change that allowed

3591
02:59:47,912 --> 02:59:49,914
this type of use to be done

3592
02:59:49,914 --> 02:59:50,915
administratively and basically

3593
02:59:50,915 --> 02:59:52,149
doesn't give us any

3594
02:59:52,149 --> 02:59:54,510
jurisdiction over the matter so

3595
02:59:54,510 --> 02:59:55,953
I want to ask the county

3596
02:59:55,953 --> 02:59:57,387
attorneys can you explain why I

3597
02:59:57,387 --> 02:59:58,922
keep being told this has to

3598
02:59:58,922 --> 03:00:00,900
pass and I have a few

3599
03:00:00,900 --> 03:00:01,992
questions, can we defer it

3600
03:00:01,992 --> 03:00:06,192
today and if not, why and what

3601
03:00:06,695 --> 03:00:06,929
is the appropriate cause for

3602
03:00:06,929 --> 03:00:08,697
denial.

3603
03:00:08,697 --> 03:00:10,666
>> class items under florida

3604
03:00:10,666 --> 03:00:11,900
law must be approved unless

3605
03:00:11,900 --> 03:00:13,836
there is evidence showing they

3606
03:00:13,836 --> 03:00:15,638
don't comply with the criteria

3607
03:00:15,638 --> 03:00:17,573
in the statutes and this is

3608
03:00:17,573 --> 03:00:18,640
pursuant to florida supreme

3609
03:00:18,640 --> 03:00:19,774
court decision this is

3610
03:00:19,774 --> 03:00:22,174
quasijudicial so that limits

3611
03:00:30,785 --> 03:00:31,520
how many times it will be

3612
03:00:31,520 --> 03:00:32,954
deferred.

3613
03:00:32,954 --> 03:00:34,922
>> what is the proper evidence.

3614
03:00:34,922 --> 03:00:36,791
>> evidence showing it doesn't

3615
03:00:36,791 --> 03:00:37,992
comply with the criteria in

3616
03:00:37,992 --> 03:00:39,793
chapter 28 of the county code.

3617
03:00:39,793 --> 03:00:40,961
And I defer to our er to

3618
03:00:40,961 --> 03:00:42,796
explain those technical

3619
03:00:42,796 --> 03:00:43,864
criteria but they relate to

3620
03:00:43,864 --> 03:00:45,799
public improvements and

3621
03:00:45,799 --> 03:00:47,670
dedications of right-of-way.

3622
03:00:47,670 --> 03:00:49,670
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

3623
03:01:03,117 --> 03:01:04,585
can we have our er expand?

3624
03:01:04,585 --> 03:01:06,219
>> good morning commissioners.

3625
03:01:06,219 --> 03:01:08,121
For this plan generally for a

3626
03:01:08,121 --> 03:01:09,223
plat the rules relate to the

3627
03:01:09,223 --> 03:01:11,920
subdivision of land sold

3628
03:01:11,920 --> 03:01:12,293
confirm the size of the

3629
03:01:12,293 --> 03:01:15,293
property meets code and confirm

3630
03:01:29,711 --> 03:01:30,946
the utilities are in place.

3631
03:01:30,946 --> 03:01:32,848
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

3632
03:01:32,848 --> 03:01:34,683
I'm asking these questions

3633
03:01:34,683 --> 03:01:35,850
because we have a resident

3634
03:01:35,850 --> 03:01:37,785
who's against this and I've

3635
03:01:37,785 --> 03:01:39,688
received numerous phone calls

3636
03:01:39,688 --> 03:01:41,690
and emails against this plat.

3637
03:01:41,690 --> 03:01:43,692
I wanted the resident to

3638
03:01:43,692 --> 03:01:44,826
understand I have been the last

3639
03:01:44,826 --> 03:01:46,761
couple of months trying to

3640
03:01:46,761 --> 03:01:46,995
figure out how we can do right

3641
03:01:46,995 --> 03:01:48,896
by them.

3642
03:01:48,896 --> 03:01:50,866
My question to the attorneys is

3643
03:01:50,866 --> 03:01:51,667
what happens today if we vote

3644
03:01:51,667 --> 03:01:53,667
this down?

3645
03:01:53,836 --> 03:01:55,671
>> that could be grounds for an

3646
03:01:55,671 --> 03:01:56,905
appeal of the board's decision.

3647
03:01:56,905 --> 03:01:58,874
It could be the applicant or

3648
03:01:58,874 --> 03:02:00,843
anyone else who has appeared at

3649
03:02:00,843 --> 03:02:02,812
this hearing and objected.

3650
03:02:02,812 --> 03:02:03,846
>> the 11th judicial circuit

3651
03:02:03,846 --> 03:02:04,680
appellate division.

3652
03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:06,215
>>.

3653
03:02:06,215 --> 03:02:08,615
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

3654
03:02:10,753 --> 03:02:12,722
am not comfortable with this

3655
03:02:12,722 --> 03:02:13,923
and hearing our residents are

3656
03:02:13,923 --> 03:02:15,791
against this I know I've spoken

3657
03:02:15,791 --> 03:02:16,858
on this before as this item has

3658
03:02:16,858 --> 03:02:18,827
come up, shelby park is

3659
03:02:18,827 --> 03:02:20,827
entirely single-family homes.

3660
03:02:20,896 --> 03:02:22,832
Although the designs proposed

3661
03:02:22,832 --> 03:02:24,734
are beautiful I don't think

3662
03:02:24,734 --> 03:02:25,968
they conform with the

3663
03:02:25,968 --> 03:02:27,837
neighborhood I am okay with it

3664
03:02:27,837 --> 03:02:28,937
going through the process and I

3665
03:02:28,937 --> 03:02:30,907
would motion to deny it.

3666
03:02:30,907 --> 03:02:31,875
>> there is a motion and there

3667
03:02:31,875 --> 03:02:33,843
is a second.

3668
03:02:33,843 --> 03:02:34,944
So motion and a second to deny,

3669
03:02:34,944 --> 03:02:36,944
you are recognized.

3670
03:02:37,130 --> 03:02:39,750
>> thank you MR. Chair, I think

3671
03:02:39,750 --> 03:02:42,750
I raise an interesting issue

3672
03:02:49,580 --> 03:02:51,610
because nowhere in the item has

3673
03:02:51,610 --> 03:02:53,164
anyone the administration, the

3674
03:02:53,164 --> 03:02:55,265
attorneys articulated this very

3675
03:02:55,265 --> 03:02:57,670
important piece of information

3676
03:02:57,670 --> 03:02:57,367
shared with us on the

3677
03:02:57,367 --> 03:02:59,690
microphone.

3678
03:02:59,690 --> 03:03:00,304
I.E. This is not a

3679
03:03:00,304 --> 03:03:02,206
discretionary item for us to

3680
03:03:02,206 --> 03:03:04,740
vote up or down, we're saying

3681
03:03:04,740 --> 03:03:05,275
if it needs statutory

3682
03:03:05,275 --> 03:03:06,310
requirements we are mandated by

3683
03:03:06,310 --> 03:03:08,710
law to approve this.

3684
03:03:09,790 --> 03:03:10,281
I'm not sure why that critical

3685
03:03:10,281 --> 03:03:13,281
information is not included in

3686
03:03:22,560 --> 03:03:24,562
the item because our residents

3687
03:03:24,562 --> 03:03:26,530
read these items, they organize

3688
03:03:26,530 --> 03:03:28,399
the petitioner office as they

3689
03:03:28,399 --> 03:03:29,835
should do and we are here to

3690
03:03:29,835 --> 03:03:31,403
reflect the voices of our

3691
03:03:31,403 --> 03:03:32,703
residents which is what the

3692
03:03:32,703 --> 03:03:34,406
district is trying to do so

3693
03:03:34,406 --> 03:03:36,407
this puts us in an awkward

3694
03:03:36,407 --> 03:03:38,409
position and I don't understand

3695
03:03:38,409 --> 03:03:39,610
why that level of critical

3696
03:03:39,610 --> 03:03:40,578
information is not included in

3697
03:03:40,578 --> 03:03:42,414
an item like this.

3698
03:03:42,414 --> 03:03:43,548
Why are we learning of this

3699
03:03:43,548 --> 03:03:45,450
requirement at this juncture.

3700
03:03:45,450 --> 03:03:46,417
The final hearing to the

3701
03:03:46,417 --> 03:03:48,417
attorneys.

3702
03:03:48,453 --> 03:03:49,587
>> happy to work with you and

3703
03:03:49,587 --> 03:03:51,490
menstruation moving forward to

3704
03:03:51,490 --> 03:03:52,390
ensure approval for items like

3705
03:03:52,390 --> 03:03:54,390
this.

3706
03:03:54,393 --> 03:03:56,394
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

3707
03:03:56,394 --> 03:03:57,562
don't know that needs to be a

3708
03:03:57,562 --> 03:03:59,397
policy decision or an item,

3709
03:03:59,397 --> 03:04:00,566
that's just the level of

3710
03:04:00,566 --> 03:04:02,566
transparency our residents

3711
03:04:02,601 --> 03:04:04,470
deserve so they can understand

3712
03:04:04,470 --> 03:04:06,405
what the position we're in and

3713
03:04:06,405 --> 03:04:08,139
the discretion we have or don't

3714
03:04:08,139 --> 03:04:09,976
have which is applicable in

3715
03:04:09,976 --> 03:04:11,977
this instance, I support the

3716
03:04:11,977 --> 03:04:13,913
district commissioner and her

3717
03:04:13,913 --> 03:04:14,914
decision to say this is not

3718
03:04:14,914 --> 03:04:16,181
conforming with the

3719
03:04:16,181 --> 03:04:18,830
neighborhood or appropriate in

3720
03:04:18,830 --> 03:04:19,986
the neighborhood, I'm not sure

3721
03:04:19,986 --> 03:04:21,921
where it takes us legally and

3722
03:04:21,921 --> 03:04:23,550
it's not advisable for us to

3723
03:04:23,550 --> 03:04:24,924
have conversations on the

3724
03:04:24,924 --> 03:04:26,926
microphone but if the

3725
03:04:26,926 --> 03:04:27,927
commissioner doesn't support it

3726
03:04:27,927 --> 03:04:29,940
I don't either.

3727
03:04:29,940 --> 03:04:30,897
>> I wanted to add I've been

3728
03:04:30,897 --> 03:04:32,932
working with the county

3729
03:04:32,932 --> 03:04:34,167
attorneys on legislation that

3730
03:04:34,167 --> 03:04:36,690
would change this in the future

3731
03:04:36,690 --> 03:04:37,970
so that it would come to us so

3732
03:04:37,970 --> 03:04:39,500
we can have jurisdiction for

3733
03:04:39,500 --> 03:04:40,907
these types of flats.

3734
03:04:40,907 --> 03:04:42,108
I'm working on already for the

3735
03:04:42,108 --> 03:04:43,910
county attorney's office

3736
03:04:43,910 --> 03:04:45,144
because to me it was offensive

3737
03:04:45,144 --> 03:04:47,130
to find out about this just on

3738
03:04:47,130 --> 03:04:48,915
the agenda and to be told

3739
03:04:48,915 --> 03:04:50,170
there's nothing you can do

3740
03:04:50,170 --> 03:04:51,840
about this, it has to go

3741
03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:52,986
forward when all these

3742
03:04:52,986 --> 03:04:54,870
residents are not okay with it

3743
03:04:54,870 --> 03:04:54,921
and it doesn't with the

3744
03:04:54,921 --> 03:04:56,220
neighbor.

3745
03:04:56,220 --> 03:04:57,924
>>chair: thank you,

3746
03:04:57,924 --> 03:04:59,159
commissioner regalado.

3747
03:04:59,159 --> 03:05:01,159
>>commissioner regalado: thank

3748
03:05:01,428 --> 03:05:02,930
you MR. Chair. I have questions

3749
03:05:02,930 --> 03:05:04,131
in terms of compliance and I

3750
03:05:04,131 --> 03:05:05,999
agree with my colleagues, i

3751
03:05:05,999 --> 03:05:07,167
don't want to get into a whole

3752
03:05:07,167 --> 03:05:09,102
conversation about our rules

3753
03:05:09,102 --> 03:05:10,904
and quasijudicial but in terms

3754
03:05:10,904 --> 03:05:12,906
of another deferral or a

3755
03:05:12,906 --> 03:05:14,740
denial, are we limited in the

3756
03:05:14,740 --> 03:05:16,100
number of deferrals since the

3757
03:05:16,100 --> 03:05:19,100
maker has mentioned that she's

3758
03:05:23,151 --> 03:05:24,985
working on something?

3759
03:05:24,985 --> 03:05:26,870
And if so can we leave it

3760
03:05:26,870 --> 03:05:28,210
because it's our rule.

3761
03:05:28,210 --> 03:05:29,290
If there is a limitation on

3762
03:05:29,290 --> 03:05:31,920
federal can we waive our rule

3763
03:05:31,920 --> 03:05:33,270
to defer it again as she

3764
03:05:33,270 --> 03:05:34,228
continues to work on an item

3765
03:05:34,228 --> 03:05:35,229
instead of a denial that would

3766
03:05:35,229 --> 03:05:37,229
trigger court action?

3767
03:05:37,231 --> 03:05:39,000
>> there is no limitation in

3768
03:05:39,000 --> 03:05:40,680
this board's procedures

3769
03:05:40,680 --> 03:05:41,203
limiting the number of

3770
03:05:41,203 --> 03:05:43,400
procedures.

3771
03:05:43,400 --> 03:05:44,205
>>commissioner regalado: just

3772
03:05:44,205 --> 03:05:46,241
putting that out there since

3773
03:05:46,241 --> 03:05:48,109
you're working on something, it

3774
03:05:48,109 --> 03:05:50,120
will come up again and again

3775
03:05:50,120 --> 03:05:51,246
but you could defer it for a

3776
03:05:51,246 --> 03:05:53,181
period of time depending on

3777
03:05:53,181 --> 03:05:55,217
what you're working on and then

3778
03:05:55,217 --> 03:05:57,850
it's not foreclosed completely,

3779
03:05:57,850 --> 03:05:58,190
it's still difficult but not

3780
03:05:58,190 --> 03:05:59,220
foreclosed.

3781
03:05:59,220 --> 03:06:02,820
>> I'd be happy to entertain a

3782
03:06:07,950 --> 03:06:08,964
motion to defer and I want to

3783
03:06:08,964 --> 03:06:10,833
add my staff brought up to me

3784
03:06:10,833 --> 03:06:12,100
and I did notice because I

3785
03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:13,969
drive by there all the time

3786
03:06:13,969 --> 03:06:15,971
these developers have already

3787
03:06:15,971 --> 03:06:17,971
begun construction, they've

3788
03:06:18,106 --> 03:06:19,976
begun laying the foundation for

3789
03:06:19,976 --> 03:06:21,844
this property and without

3790
03:06:21,844 --> 03:06:22,913
knowing if they were going to

3791
03:06:22,913 --> 03:06:24,180
get an approval or not.

3792
03:06:24,180 --> 03:06:26,150
That is astounding.

3793
03:06:26,150 --> 03:06:27,850
It is terrible we are basically

3794
03:06:27,850 --> 03:06:28,170
bound by this and we have no

3795
03:06:28,170 --> 03:06:29,853
say.

3796
03:06:29,853 --> 03:06:31,854
That speaks volumes of what the

3797
03:06:31,854 --> 03:06:33,389
expectations are for these

3798
03:06:33,389 --> 03:06:35,789
applications, they are assuming

3799
03:06:37,493 --> 03:06:39,395
we are going to approve it.

3800
03:06:39,395 --> 03:06:40,430
>> have these two second

3801
03:06:40,430 --> 03:06:42,430
approval.

3802
03:06:43,400 --> 03:06:44,901
>>chair: commissioner bermudez.

3803
03:06:44,901 --> 03:06:46,636
>>commissioner bermudez: I'm

3804
03:06:46,636 --> 03:06:50,236
going to support the county but

3805
03:06:54,578 --> 03:06:55,478
I am a little bit, actually I'm

3806
03:06:55,478 --> 03:06:57,313
very confused.

3807
03:06:57,313 --> 03:06:58,581
A lot of times and we got a

3808
03:06:58,581 --> 03:06:59,616
friend to your right that says

3809
03:06:59,616 --> 03:07:01,452
no to every plat.

3810
03:07:01,452 --> 03:07:03,320
A lot of times that plat is

3811
03:07:03,320 --> 03:07:04,387
just administrative.

3812
03:07:04,387 --> 03:07:06,323
How did we get here to

3813
03:07:06,323 --> 03:07:07,524
something that changes the

3814
03:07:07,524 --> 03:07:09,392
community and changes the

3815
03:07:09,392 --> 03:07:10,594
makeup of the community, how

3816
03:07:10,594 --> 03:07:12,463
did we get to the plat before

3817
03:07:12,463 --> 03:07:14,331
we got to a decision on that.

3818
03:07:14,331 --> 03:07:14,598
I'd like to know how that

3819
03:07:14,598 --> 03:07:16,400
happened.

3820
03:07:16,400 --> 03:07:19,971
Did this get through before or

3821
03:07:19,971 --> 03:07:22,371
what's the reasoning there?

3822
03:07:22,873 --> 03:07:24,875
>> commissioner the zoning was

3823
03:07:24,875 --> 03:07:27,275
previously approved for this

3824
03:07:28,145 --> 03:07:29,380
property.

3825
03:07:29,380 --> 03:07:30,181
>>commissioner bermudez: when

3826
03:07:30,181 --> 03:07:32,181
was it?

3827
03:07:32,517 --> 03:07:34,118
>> I defer to rer on that.

3828
03:07:34,118 --> 03:07:35,753
>> this property is in a

3829
03:07:35,753 --> 03:07:38,153
neighborhood that's zoned re-1

3830
03:07:39,858 --> 03:07:41,920
but this application came

3831
03:07:41,920 --> 03:07:44,920
through which allows for a

3832
03:07:45,463 --> 03:07:46,698
duplex on the property.

3833
03:07:46,698 --> 03:07:49,980
>>commissioner bermudez: so it

3834
03:07:49,100 --> 03:07:51,100
was approved administratively.

3835
03:07:51,436 --> 03:07:55,636
In general I think as we move

3836
03:07:59,100 --> 03:08:00,179
forward and I'm in support of

3837
03:08:00,179 --> 03:08:02,114
commissioner milian orbis but

3838
03:08:02,114 --> 03:08:03,982
there are plaques who are just

3839
03:08:03,982 --> 03:08:05,250
plat and truthfully there is

3840
03:08:05,250 --> 03:08:07,850
not much we can do about it but

3841
03:08:07,850 --> 03:08:08,986
the reality is they are just

3842
03:08:08,986 --> 03:08:10,989
plats, there's others like this

3843
03:08:10,989 --> 03:08:13,580
one that are apparently was

3844
03:08:13,580 --> 03:08:14,994
approved administratively but

3845
03:08:14,994 --> 03:08:17,394
the commissioner of the

3846
03:08:17,796 --> 03:08:18,997
district I'm sure were not

3847
03:08:18,997 --> 03:08:19,799
aware until it got in front of

3848
03:08:19,799 --> 03:08:21,799
us.

3849
03:08:21,801 --> 03:08:23,803
When you work on the policy if

3850
03:08:23,803 --> 03:08:24,970
anything pops up like that the

3851
03:08:24,970 --> 03:08:26,805
administration and director

3852
03:08:26,805 --> 03:08:28,807
should at the very least let

3853
03:08:28,807 --> 03:08:30,709
the commissioner know when it's

3854
03:08:30,709 --> 03:08:32,879
in the process so I'll leave my

3855
03:08:32,879 --> 03:08:33,450
piece at that one and support

3856
03:08:33,450 --> 03:08:35,450
you.

3857
03:08:35,881 --> 03:08:37,881
>>chair: commissioner hardemon.

3858
03:08:37,883 --> 03:08:39,883
>>commissioner hardemon: is

3859
03:08:41,387 --> 03:08:43,289
this in an unincorporated area

3860
03:08:43,289 --> 03:08:46,492
and I don't know if you are

3861
03:08:46,492 --> 03:08:50,692
aware of this but when I was

3862
03:08:53,366 --> 03:08:54,567
serving as the city of miami

3863
03:08:54,567 --> 03:08:56,369
commissioner we about the

3864
03:08:56,369 --> 03:08:57,537
county so the county made

3865
03:08:57,537 --> 03:09:01,137
changes long before any of us

3866
03:09:03,744 --> 03:09:04,811
were on the dais but they made

3867
03:09:04,811 --> 03:09:06,746
changes where in the

3868
03:09:06,746 --> 03:09:07,947
unincorporated areas it allowed

3869
03:09:07,947 --> 03:09:09,716
for the development of duplexes

3870
03:09:09,716 --> 03:09:11,919
and the single-family zoned

3871
03:09:11,919 --> 03:09:13,754
areas which sounds like that's

3872
03:09:13,754 --> 03:09:14,888
exactly what this is.

3873
03:09:14,888 --> 03:09:17,888
Although they are a program

3874
03:09:19,729 --> 03:09:21,562
that's transferred, etc. But

3875
03:09:21,562 --> 03:09:23,597
that was a big thing to have

3876
03:09:23,597 --> 03:09:25,599
been done especially in areas

3877
03:09:25,599 --> 03:09:26,800
where you have communities that

3878
03:09:26,800 --> 03:09:30,400
look for a way where most

3879
03:09:30,871 --> 03:09:33,875
people would like to stay sort

3880
03:09:33,875 --> 03:09:36,875
of as natural as possible.

3881
03:09:38,779 --> 03:09:40,480
The single-family zoned areas

3882
03:09:40,480 --> 03:09:41,683
probably are the most

3883
03:09:41,683 --> 03:09:44,683
protective space we have in

3884
03:09:45,520 --> 03:09:47,521
miami-dade county, most of our

3885
03:09:47,521 --> 03:09:48,723
lots are 5000 feetb2, you have

3886
03:09:48,723 --> 03:09:50,659
single zoned areas much larger

3887
03:09:50,659 --> 03:09:53,528
and people want to make changes

3888
03:09:53,528 --> 03:09:54,696
to that and it involves lots of

3889
03:09:54,696 --> 03:09:56,698
discussion when you intensify

3890
03:09:56,698 --> 03:09:57,999
the use of single-family zoned

3891
03:09:57,999 --> 03:10:00,999
areas where you have 5000 feetb2

3892
03:10:02,437 --> 03:10:03,205
and you allow for cafc

3893
03:10:03,205 --> 03:10:05,140
or

3894
03:10:05,140 --> 03:10:07,800
whatever new terminology that's

3895
03:10:07,800 --> 03:10:09,945
been made you intensify use,

3896
03:10:09,945 --> 03:10:12,945
more people, more parking, etc.

3897
03:10:14,316 --> 03:10:16,318
So if we are to consider for

3898
03:10:16,318 --> 03:10:17,519
instance what you're going

3899
03:10:17,519 --> 03:10:20,519
through right now we probably

3900
03:10:23,893 --> 03:10:25,761
should consider the law that we

3901
03:10:25,761 --> 03:10:26,895
have on the books right now

3902
03:10:26,895 --> 03:10:29,230
that makes those types of

3903
03:10:29,230 --> 03:10:30,432
changes because I can tell you

3904
03:10:30,432 --> 03:10:32,168
for instance in my district we

3905
03:10:32,168 --> 03:10:33,202
have a lot of vacant

3906
03:10:33,202 --> 03:10:35,104
single-family zoned lots.

3907
03:10:35,104 --> 03:10:39,304
And many of those spots we give

3908
03:10:52,656 --> 03:10:54,524
to people to develop so they

3909
03:10:54,524 --> 03:10:56,392
are going to intensify those

3910
03:10:56,392 --> 03:10:57,527
communities and sometimes in

3911
03:10:57,527 --> 03:10:58,528
these neighborhoods people

3912
03:10:58,528 --> 03:11:00,430
don't have voices.

3913
03:11:00,430 --> 03:11:01,598
Certainly when those things

3914
03:11:01,598 --> 03:11:03,833
were passed I had no voice in

3915
03:11:03,833 --> 03:11:05,502
the matter, I wasn't a resident

3916
03:11:05,502 --> 03:11:07,504
of those unincorporated areas

3917
03:11:07,504 --> 03:11:08,738
and the commission at the time

3918
03:11:08,738 --> 03:11:10,641
was all for what was happening.

3919
03:11:10,641 --> 03:11:12,576
T didn't change necessarily,

3920
03:11:12,576 --> 03:11:14,411
we didn't get a bunch of houses

3921
03:11:14,411 --> 03:11:15,645
built but when we did get

3922
03:11:15,645 --> 03:11:18,415
houses built they were duplexes

3923
03:11:18,415 --> 03:11:19,549
and now it's a different

3924
03:11:19,549 --> 03:11:21,418
experience for the people

3925
03:11:21,418 --> 03:11:23,420
living there so there's a space

3926
03:11:23,420 --> 03:11:24,588
for all types of development,

3927
03:11:24,588 --> 03:11:26,389
there's a space for duplexes

3928
03:11:26,389 --> 03:11:26,657
and tall buildings and short

3929
03:11:26,657 --> 03:11:28,525
buildings.

3930
03:11:28,525 --> 03:11:29,693
And no buildings at all but if

3931
03:11:29,693 --> 03:11:31,595
we don't, if this matters to

3932
03:11:31,595 --> 03:11:33,430
all of us we should probably

3933
03:11:33,430 --> 03:11:35,432
reconsider the entirety of the

3934
03:11:35,432 --> 03:11:36,700
ordinance we have in place that

3935
03:11:36,700 --> 03:11:38,402
allows this to occur naturally

3936
03:11:38,402 --> 03:11:40,402
and by right.

3937
03:11:41,406 --> 03:11:42,673
>>chair: commissioner gilbert.

3938
03:11:42,673 --> 03:11:44,542
>>commissioner gilbert: thank

3939
03:11:44,542 --> 03:11:46,410
you MR. Chair. This is not as

3940
03:11:46,410 --> 03:11:48,412
simple for me and I'll support

3941
03:11:48,412 --> 03:11:50,812
the district commissioner but

3942
03:11:56,200 --> 03:11:58,155
let's just be mindful that the

3943
03:11:58,155 --> 03:12:00,155
housing affordability problem

3944
03:12:00,158 --> 03:12:02,270
that essentially occurs because

3945
03:12:02,270 --> 03:12:05,270
of supply and demand didn't

3946
03:12:15,941 --> 03:12:17,941
happen overnight.

3947
03:12:18,777 --> 03:12:19,945
It's single determinations so

3948
03:12:19,945 --> 03:12:22,140
if we stand by the principle

3949
03:12:22,140 --> 03:12:23,782
that neighborhoods should never

3950
03:12:23,782 --> 03:12:25,784
change in character and

3951
03:12:25,784 --> 03:12:26,951
anything that's a change to the

3952
03:12:26,951 --> 03:12:28,854
character shouldn't be built,

3953
03:12:28,854 --> 03:12:30,790
then we lock ourselves into an

3954
03:12:30,790 --> 03:12:31,957
affordability quagmire that's

3955
03:12:31,957 --> 03:12:33,792
very difficult to overcome.

3956
03:12:33,792 --> 03:12:34,993
So I think that's why I

3957
03:12:34,993 --> 03:12:36,895
promoted the rtc density and

3958
03:12:36,895 --> 03:12:38,864
high faa ours on our major

3959
03:12:38,864 --> 03:12:40,199
corridors because ultimately we

3960
03:12:40,199 --> 03:12:41,834
have to increase supply.

3961
03:12:41,834 --> 03:12:43,102
So these policies were put in

3962
03:12:43,102 --> 03:12:45,805
place so that with some degree

3963
03:12:45,805 --> 03:12:48,805
of certainty people could buy

3964
03:12:50,877 --> 03:12:52,745
properties of a certain size in

3965
03:12:52,745 --> 03:12:53,913
a certain area and instead of

3966
03:12:53,913 --> 03:12:55,815
building one house, not build

3967
03:12:55,815 --> 03:12:56,983
an apartment but build 2,

3968
03:12:56,983 --> 03:12:58,818
that's why the policies were

3969
03:12:58,818 --> 03:13:00,530
put in place and I'm not

3970
03:13:00,530 --> 03:13:01,954
defending the policy is perfect

3971
03:13:01,954 --> 03:13:03,823
I understand why it exists yet

3972
03:13:03,823 --> 03:13:04,991
if this board wants to be in

3973
03:13:04,991 --> 03:13:06,893
the business of saying hey,,

3974
03:13:06,893 --> 03:13:08,828
we're going to say that policy

3975
03:13:08,828 --> 03:13:09,996
doesn't exist, okay, we can do

3976
03:13:09,996 --> 03:13:12,232
that but let me suggest those

3977
03:13:12,232 --> 03:13:14,234
are the types of decisions that

3978
03:13:14,234 --> 03:13:16,403
makes tallahassee come in with

3979
03:13:16,403 --> 03:13:18,271
stuff like live local.

3980
03:13:18,271 --> 03:13:19,539
Those are the types of

3981
03:13:19,539 --> 03:13:21,939
decisions because ultimately we

3982
03:13:25,445 --> 03:13:27,414
are safeguarding what was and

3983
03:13:27,414 --> 03:13:28,381
we are foreclosing our self

3984
03:13:28,381 --> 03:13:30,781
from what can be.

3985
03:13:31,786 --> 03:13:34,786
What in isolation this duplex,

3986
03:13:36,123 --> 03:13:37,357
I'm okay with, you know the

3987
03:13:37,357 --> 03:13:39,761
district better than I do and

3988
03:13:39,761 --> 03:13:42,161
I'll see to that.

3989
03:13:42,296 --> 03:13:44,698
But understand the gravity of

3990
03:13:44,698 --> 03:13:47,698
the aggregated effect of the

3991
03:13:49,804 --> 03:13:50,939
decisions we make as this body

3992
03:13:50,939 --> 03:13:52,807
because people who came here

3993
03:13:52,807 --> 03:13:55,807
before us made decisions just

3994
03:14:01,983 --> 03:14:03,918
like this.

3995
03:14:03,918 --> 03:14:05,119
So I'm always cognizant of

3996
03:14:05,119 --> 03:14:06,954
decisions we make that are just

3997
03:14:06,954 --> 03:14:08,890
like this because we are a

3998
03:14:08,890 --> 03:14:10,910
different board than prior

3999
03:14:10,910 --> 03:14:12,270
commissions but to the extent

4000
03:14:12,270 --> 03:14:13,895
we make decisions that allow,

4001
03:14:13,895 --> 03:14:15,960
and kind of require us to

4002
03:14:15,960 --> 03:14:17,320
maintain whatever is and what

4003
03:14:17,320 --> 03:14:18,900
isn't can't become then we are

4004
03:14:18,900 --> 03:14:21,300
perpetuating a problem created

4005
03:14:25,107 --> 03:14:27,800
by someone else.

4006
03:14:27,800 --> 03:14:28,143
So if we need to have a

4007
03:14:28,143 --> 03:14:30,120
conversation about what our

4008
03:14:30,120 --> 03:14:30,212
plan is for housing overall

4009
03:14:30,212 --> 03:14:30,346
than

4010
03:14:30,346 --> 03:14:32,346
.

4011
03:14:33,515 --> 03:14:35,584
If we want to reinvest in some

4012
03:14:35,584 --> 03:14:38,584
people have complied with the

4013
03:14:41,891 --> 03:14:42,992
rtc, others have not.

4014
03:14:42,992 --> 03:14:44,960
The rtz is a great way to

4015
03:14:44,960 --> 03:14:47,960
protect wetlands and stuff out

4016
03:14:52,101 --> 03:14:54,103
west and it's a great way to

4017
03:14:54,103 --> 03:14:55,304
protect the sanctity of our

4018
03:14:55,304 --> 03:14:57,704
single-family homes because we

4019
03:14:58,107 --> 03:14:59,341
are building along commercial

4020
03:14:59,341 --> 03:15:01,770
corridors but let me suggest we

4021
03:15:01,770 --> 03:15:02,245
can't have it both ways.

4022
03:15:02,245 --> 03:15:05,845
We are going to allow and

4023
03:15:07,283 --> 03:15:08,484
require density and high faa

4024
03:15:08,484 --> 03:15:11,221
are along those corridors along

4025
03:15:11,221 --> 03:15:12,456
all of the county not just the

4026
03:15:12,456 --> 03:15:14,324
unincorporated parts, the

4027
03:15:14,324 --> 03:15:16,226
cities also or at some point

4028
03:15:16,226 --> 03:15:18,228
that urban sprawl will spill

4029
03:15:18,228 --> 03:15:20,230
out into our pristine

4030
03:15:20,230 --> 03:15:21,298
agricultural areas and into

4031
03:15:21,298 --> 03:15:23,298
single-family homes but

4032
03:15:23,300 --> 03:15:25,235
somewhere supply has to be met

4033
03:15:25,235 --> 03:15:27,635
or this becomes, further

4034
03:15:31,509 --> 03:15:33,377
becomes a community that people

4035
03:15:33,377 --> 03:15:35,478
cannot afford to live in.

4036
03:15:35,478 --> 03:15:37,347
We are a tourism-based economy

4037
03:15:37,347 --> 03:15:38,515
fueled by small businesses.

4038
03:15:38,515 --> 03:15:38,715
People don't make a lot of

4039
03:15:38,715 --> 03:15:40,351
money.

4040
03:15:40,351 --> 03:15:42,751
We need more supply.

4041
03:15:42,987 --> 03:15:44,922
Thank you.

4042
03:15:44,922 --> 03:15:48,522
>>chair: I have the vice chair

4043
03:15:50,428 --> 03:15:52,397
and senator garcia.

4044
03:15:52,397 --> 03:15:54,398
>>vice chair mcghee: if I'm

4045
03:15:54,398 --> 03:15:56,398
hearing the commissioners

4046
03:15:56,400 --> 03:15:57,601
position if I'm hearing this

4047
03:15:57,601 --> 03:15:59,136
correctly two things happen.

4048
03:15:59,136 --> 03:16:01,380
A decision was made 1 and

4049
03:16:01,380 --> 03:16:02,740
number two notice was never

4050
03:16:02,740 --> 03:16:04,709
given to her to have input and

4051
03:16:04,709 --> 03:16:07,709
i'm wondering to the county

4052
03:16:17,121 --> 03:16:19,900
attorney as relates to her

4053
03:16:19,900 --> 03:16:20,993
issue because it seems it would

4054
03:16:20,993 --> 03:16:23,996
now apply or has always applied

4055
03:16:23,996 --> 03:16:25,197
to all the commission districts

4056
03:16:25,197 --> 03:16:27,131
especially when we are making

4057
03:16:27,131 --> 03:16:29,969
the intent to honor the wishes

4058
03:16:29,969 --> 03:16:31,137
of a particular commissioner or

4059
03:16:31,137 --> 03:16:32,971
petitioner district.

4060
03:16:32,971 --> 03:16:34,173
Is there a way where we can

4061
03:16:34,173 --> 03:16:36,975
mandate notice to be given to

4062
03:16:36,975 --> 03:16:38,276
the particular commissioner of

4063
03:16:38,276 --> 03:16:40,179
that district whenever there's

4064
03:16:40,179 --> 03:16:42,800
an administrative decision as

4065
03:16:42,800 --> 03:16:44,917
relates to this particular type

4066
03:16:44,917 --> 03:16:46,917
of item?

4067
03:16:46,918 --> 03:16:48,821
>> as commissioner milian orbis

4068
03:16:48,821 --> 03:16:50,823
mentioned she has legislation

4069
03:16:50,823 --> 03:16:52,825
that would require notice for

4070
03:16:52,825 --> 03:16:53,826
workforce housing density bonus

4071
03:16:53,826 --> 03:16:55,795
applications.

4072
03:16:55,795 --> 03:16:56,862
>>vice chair mcghee: if I heard

4073
03:16:56,862 --> 03:16:58,798
you correctly these are

4074
03:16:58,798 --> 03:17:01,798
important enough where it has

4075
03:17:02,335 --> 03:17:02,502
to go through based upon state

4076
03:17:02,502 --> 03:17:04,337
law.

4077
03:17:04,337 --> 03:17:07,937
>> that is for plat items, not

4078
03:17:09,608 --> 03:17:11,545
for the density workforce.

4079
03:17:11,545 --> 03:17:14,545
>> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN and

4080
03:17:20,420 --> 03:17:21,655
commissioner milian orbis thank

4081
03:17:21,655 --> 03:17:24,424
you for bringing this item and

4082
03:17:24,424 --> 03:17:25,625
I agree with your stance and

4083
03:17:25,625 --> 03:17:27,694
positioning and I understand

4084
03:17:27,694 --> 03:17:29,596
the argument we have about

4085
03:17:29,596 --> 03:17:30,764
ensuring that the community is

4086
03:17:30,764 --> 03:17:32,599
changing and we need more

4087
03:17:32,599 --> 03:17:33,734
workforce housing or more

4088
03:17:33,734 --> 03:17:35,602
housing in general but the

4089
03:17:35,602 --> 03:17:36,870
reality is we have to be

4090
03:17:36,870 --> 03:17:37,871
careful how we proceed with

4091
03:17:37,871 --> 03:17:39,774
some of these items.

4092
03:17:39,774 --> 03:17:42,174
Seeing what commissioner milian

4093
03:17:47,381 --> 03:17:49,382
orbis brought to us will

4094
03:17:49,382 --> 03:17:51,252
really, does not go along with

4095
03:17:51,252 --> 03:17:53,287
the integrity of that community

4096
03:17:53,287 --> 03:17:54,589
itself, it's not along a rapid

4097
03:17:54,589 --> 03:17:56,457
transit zone.

4098
03:17:56,457 --> 03:17:57,724
It doesn't go along with some

4099
03:17:57,724 --> 03:17:59,693
of the rules we have as relates

4100
03:17:59,693 --> 03:18:03,893
to housing, this is why we have

4101
03:18:04,198 --> 03:18:05,333
to be careful, commissioner

4102
03:18:05,333 --> 03:18:06,200
gilbert on how we proceed

4103
03:18:06,200 --> 03:18:07,368
forward.

4104
03:18:07,368 --> 03:18:11,568
Not too long ago we passed an

4105
03:18:16,578 --> 03:18:18,613
ordinance allowing for in the

4106
03:18:18,613 --> 03:18:20,449
law corridors in unincorporated

4107
03:18:20,449 --> 03:18:22,351
dade and we talked about this

4108
03:18:22,351 --> 03:18:23,552
and this could be a problem

4109
03:18:23,552 --> 03:18:26,354
because we're going to add more

4110
03:18:26,354 --> 03:18:28,754
people into these single-family

4111
03:18:33,662 --> 03:18:33,962
residence communities that we

4112
03:18:33,962 --> 03:18:35,731
all cherish.

4113
03:18:35,731 --> 03:18:36,898
So that is an issue we went

4114
03:18:36,898 --> 03:18:38,833
through and I still think it

4115
03:18:38,833 --> 03:18:40,703
was the wrong policy for us but

4116
03:18:40,703 --> 03:18:41,771
when we have those policies in

4117
03:18:41,771 --> 03:18:43,739
one area this is what it

4118
03:18:43,739 --> 03:18:45,140
affects in other areas and this

4119
03:18:45,140 --> 03:18:46,742
is why we have to be careful

4120
03:18:46,742 --> 03:18:48,643
how we do this and I'm all

4121
03:18:48,643 --> 03:18:49,812
about density along the rapid

4122
03:18:49,812 --> 03:18:51,714
transit zone and I think we

4123
03:18:51,714 --> 03:18:52,915
should encourage that but we

4124
03:18:52,915 --> 03:18:54,683
have to take a pause when we

4125
03:18:54,683 --> 03:18:55,851
look at our residential

4126
03:18:55,851 --> 03:18:57,820
communities and we do need to

4127
03:18:57,820 --> 03:18:59,789
speak up and voice it because I

4128
03:18:59,789 --> 03:19:01,791
get growth happens, we have to

4129
03:19:01,791 --> 03:19:02,925
have responsible growth but at

4130
03:19:02,925 --> 03:19:05,995
what expense are we going to

4131
03:19:05,995 --> 03:19:07,196
now start saying, not saying

4132
03:19:07,196 --> 03:19:08,998
this issue is doing that or any

4133
03:19:08,998 --> 03:19:10,200
else are saying that.

4134
03:19:10,200 --> 03:19:14,400
But we have to try to protect,

4135
03:19:14,837 --> 03:19:17,237
have some conservative ideals

4136
03:19:25,482 --> 03:19:26,716
and values when it comes to

4137
03:19:26,716 --> 03:19:29,485
properties, we should do our

4138
03:19:29,485 --> 03:19:31,488
best to protect some of these

4139
03:19:31,488 --> 03:19:32,656
neighborhoods, some of these

4140
03:19:32,656 --> 03:19:34,657
neighborhoods are the fabric

4141
03:19:34,657 --> 03:19:36,593
and existence of our people so

4142
03:19:36,593 --> 03:19:38,461
I was happy to seconded, to not

4143
03:19:38,461 --> 03:19:40,464
only defer it but to deny the

4144
03:19:40,464 --> 03:19:41,665
item but I understand the

4145
03:19:41,665 --> 03:19:43,467
policy that exists here right

4146
03:19:43,467 --> 03:19:44,601
now but I still stand by my

4147
03:19:44,601 --> 03:19:48,201
second and we will let the

4148
03:19:57,447 --> 03:19:58,682
courts decide.

4149
03:19:58,682 --> 03:20:00,652
>>commissioner milian orbis:

4150
03:20:00,652 --> 03:20:02,653
I'm happy to do the deferral as

4151
03:20:02,653 --> 03:20:04,522
i'm working on the legislation

4152
03:20:04,522 --> 03:20:05,689
and I would request it to the

4153
03:20:05,689 --> 03:20:07,591
second meeting in OCTOBER to

4154
03:20:07,591 --> 03:20:09,726
allow time to work on that and

4155
03:20:09,726 --> 03:20:11,629
to commissioner gilberts, what

4156
03:20:11,629 --> 03:20:16,300
he just said I agree we need to

4157
03:20:16,300 --> 03:20:18,302
work on the affordability

4158
03:20:18,302 --> 03:20:20,305
process 100% but these are not

4159
03:20:20,305 --> 03:20:21,573
affordable homes, these are

4160
03:20:21,573 --> 03:20:23,441
million-dollar duplexes so I

4161
03:20:23,441 --> 03:20:24,476
don't know that we are helping

4162
03:20:24,476 --> 03:20:26,511
anybody in this case.

4163
03:20:26,511 --> 03:20:28,446
We are not helping a first-time

4164
03:20:28,446 --> 03:20:29,714
family buying a hold because

4165
03:20:29,714 --> 03:20:31,483
nobody can afford that.

4166
03:20:31,483 --> 03:20:33,485
This is a different situation

4167
03:20:33,485 --> 03:20:35,620
but I agree and I do think we

4168
03:20:35,620 --> 03:20:36,588
need to look at it overall in

4169
03:20:36,588 --> 03:20:38,289
general and fix this, thank you

4170
03:20:38,289 --> 03:20:40,289
MR. CHAIRMAN.

4171
03:20:40,292 --> 03:20:41,360
>>chair: we are going to be

4172
03:20:41,360 --> 03:20:43,295
deferring it so you are

4173
03:20:43,295 --> 03:20:44,463
withdrawing your motion and

4174
03:20:44,463 --> 03:20:46,298
making a motion to defer to

4175
03:20:46,298 --> 03:20:48,300
know date certain, second

4176
03:20:48,300 --> 03:20:49,802
OCTOBER meeting seconded by

4177
03:20:49,802 --> 03:20:50,803
commissioner regalado so on the

4178
03:20:50,803 --> 03:20:52,104
deferral.

4179
03:20:52,104 --> 03:20:54,600
>>commissioner regalado: I want

4180
03:20:54,600 --> 03:20:55,908
to add really quick since he is

4181
03:20:55,908 --> 03:20:57,809
working on the item and we have

4182
03:20:57,809 --> 03:20:59,100
sunshine issues and I'm glad

4183
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:00,280
she brought up the point these

4184
03:21:00,280 --> 03:21:02,140
are not affordable.

4185
03:21:02,140 --> 03:21:03,816
And it 761 of the situations

4186
03:21:03,816 --> 03:21:05,170
we're seeing as buying

4187
03:21:05,170 --> 03:21:06,819
single-family homes and buying

4188
03:21:06,819 --> 03:21:08,200
duplexes that are

4189
03:21:08,200 --> 03:21:09,823
multi-million-dollar duplexes,

4190
03:21:09,823 --> 03:21:11,823
not affordable homes.

4191
03:21:11,824 --> 03:21:13,260
I live in the pines, in a

4192
03:21:13,260 --> 03:21:15,260
single-family home surrounded

4193
03:21:15,270 --> 03:21:16,896
by duplexes for the same reason

4194
03:21:16,896 --> 03:21:18,970
and I don't know if she's been

4195
03:21:18,970 --> 03:21:21,697
invaded by the sugar cubes like

4196
03:21:21,868 --> 03:21:22,680
I have been but that's the

4197
03:21:22,680 --> 03:21:23,970
deal.

4198
03:21:23,970 --> 03:21:25,380
The other thing I would say is

4199
03:21:25,380 --> 03:21:27,730
when we look at this to

4200
03:21:27,730 --> 03:21:30,730
consider for comp plan purposes

4201
03:21:34,140 --> 03:21:35,215
that you look at the adjacent

4202
03:21:35,215 --> 03:21:37,830
properties and the one across.

4203
03:21:37,830 --> 03:21:39,510
What we are seeing is if you

4204
03:21:39,510 --> 03:21:40,254
have a series of duplexes and

4205
03:21:40,254 --> 03:21:42,560
your adding another duplex then

4206
03:21:42,560 --> 03:21:45,656
that MAY be a buffer of

4207
03:21:56,703 --> 03:21:58,705
duplexes as you go from our 1

4208
03:21:58,705 --> 03:22:00,641
to something more substantial

4209
03:22:00,641 --> 03:22:01,776
but if you have an area where

4210
03:22:01,776 --> 03:22:04,176
you only have single-family

4211
03:22:04,512 --> 03:22:05,713
homes and now you're buying a

4212
03:22:05,713 --> 03:22:07,748
single-family home and tearing

4213
03:22:07,748 --> 03:22:09,516
it down and using this to put a

4214
03:22:09,516 --> 03:22:11,519
duplex there you have

4215
03:22:11,519 --> 03:22:12,687
substantially changed the

4216
03:22:12,687 --> 03:22:14,889
character of that block so

4217
03:22:14,889 --> 03:22:15,756
similar to what you do for live

4218
03:22:15,756 --> 03:22:17,658
local which is you looked at

4219
03:22:17,658 --> 03:22:19,527
both sides live local should

4220
03:22:19,527 --> 03:22:20,595
look across the street that's a

4221
03:22:20,595 --> 03:22:22,631
story for another day.

4222
03:22:22,631 --> 03:22:24,532
I think a comp plan change that

4223
03:22:24,532 --> 03:22:25,767
has you looking at what is

4224
03:22:25,767 --> 03:22:27,535
adjacent and what is across in

4225
03:22:27,535 --> 03:22:28,769
terms of the change would

4226
03:22:28,769 --> 03:22:30,672
alleviate some of the concerns.

4227
03:22:30,672 --> 03:22:32,541
As we comply in a way that is

4228
03:22:32,541 --> 03:22:34,509
aligned with the states

4229
03:22:34,509 --> 03:22:35,510
requirement to provide more

4230
03:22:35,510 --> 03:22:37,510
affordability.

4231
03:22:37,512 --> 03:22:39,512
>>chair: commissioner lopez.

4232
03:22:39,514 --> 03:22:41,517
>>commissioner lopez: I want to

4233
03:22:41,517 --> 03:22:42,684
applaud commissioner milian

4234
03:22:42,684 --> 03:22:44,520
orbis because in my district

4235
03:22:44,520 --> 03:22:46,521
you'll see all these duplexes

4236
03:22:46,521 --> 03:22:48,523
in the middle of these old

4237
03:22:48,523 --> 03:22:49,724
characteristic neighborhoods in

4238
03:22:49,724 --> 03:22:51,760
district 5 and they are so out

4239
03:22:51,760 --> 03:22:53,662
of character and you're right,

4240
03:22:53,662 --> 03:22:55,631
they are over $1 million.

4241
03:22:55,631 --> 03:22:57,532
I called to see because there

4242
03:22:57,532 --> 03:22:58,700
was a group of duplexes for

4243
03:22:58,700 --> 03:23:00,403
sale in my district and they

4244
03:23:00,403 --> 03:23:02,438
where a million, 4 and it was

4245
03:23:02,438 --> 03:23:04,340
shocking because I said first

4246
03:23:04,340 --> 03:23:06,342
of all their out of character,

4247
03:23:06,342 --> 03:23:07,443
they are two stories, not just

4248
03:23:07,443 --> 03:23:08,610
duplexes that look like

4249
03:23:08,610 --> 03:23:10,446
single-family homes read they

4250
03:23:10,446 --> 03:23:11,581
are literally buildings that

4251
03:23:11,581 --> 03:23:13,517
have somewhat destroyed not

4252
03:23:13,517 --> 03:23:17,117
only the character of the block

4253
03:23:20,560 --> 03:23:21,124
but the character of the

4254
03:23:21,124 --> 03:23:21,391
neighborhood so I'm so

4255
03:23:21,391 --> 03:23:23,226
grateful.

4256
03:23:23,226 --> 03:23:25,280
I remember this item thinking

4257
03:23:25,280 --> 03:23:26,295
how did we not know this

4258
03:23:26,295 --> 03:23:28,231
beforehand and I know you did

4259
03:23:28,231 --> 03:23:30,100
not know that and that's why

4260
03:23:30,100 --> 03:23:31,268
you were forced to defer it but

4261
03:23:31,268 --> 03:23:33,360
I'm grateful for your

4262
03:23:33,360 --> 03:23:34,237
leadership taking on this

4263
03:23:34,237 --> 03:23:36,390
project because in fact it has

4264
03:23:36,390 --> 03:23:38,390
really impacted district 5

4265
03:23:38,410 --> 03:23:40,440
which is some of the oldest

4266
03:23:40,440 --> 03:23:42,679
neighborhoods in the city of

4267
03:23:42,679 --> 03:23:44,715
miami so thank you for that.

4268
03:23:44,715 --> 03:23:45,916
>>commissioner milian orbis: to

4269
03:23:45,916 --> 03:23:47,817
the attorneys are they doing

4270
03:23:47,817 --> 03:23:49,686
work on the property already

4271
03:23:49,686 --> 03:23:52,623
and if so this is deferred

4272
03:23:52,623 --> 03:23:54,558
until mid OCTOBER.

4273
03:23:54,558 --> 03:23:56,593
I'm not sure they are doing the

4274
03:23:56,593 --> 03:23:57,828
construction appropriately but

4275
03:23:57,828 --> 03:23:59,729
what I don't want especially if

4276
03:23:59,729 --> 03:24:03,329
that skips appealed is for them

4277
03:24:03,367 --> 03:24:05,302
to incur expenses and then come

4278
03:24:05,302 --> 03:24:07,204
back to us and have an issue

4279
03:24:07,204 --> 03:24:08,405
created there getting to these

4280
03:24:08,405 --> 03:24:10,208
details so is it appropriate

4281
03:24:10,208 --> 03:24:12,210
for them to have begun

4282
03:24:12,210 --> 03:24:13,410
construction on this property,

4283
03:24:13,410 --> 03:24:15,412
that's question number one.

4284
03:24:15,412 --> 03:24:17,315
>> construction has started but

4285
03:24:17,315 --> 03:24:19,183
they're required to enter into

4286
03:24:19,183 --> 03:24:20,451
a hold harmless with the

4287
03:24:20,451 --> 03:24:21,419
county, they are tentative at

4288
03:24:21,419 --> 03:24:23,288
the plat stage.

4289
03:24:23,288 --> 03:24:25,256
>> can we enforce that so

4290
03:24:25,256 --> 03:24:27,191
further construction does not

4291
03:24:27,191 --> 03:24:28,192
commence to preserve the status

4292
03:24:28,192 --> 03:24:29,427
quo.

4293
03:24:29,427 --> 03:24:31,296
>>commissioner bermudez: my

4294
03:24:31,296 --> 03:24:33,365
point was going to be the same

4295
03:24:33,365 --> 03:24:35,100
as commissioner cohen higgins

4296
03:24:35,100 --> 03:24:37,680
but moving forward the fact

4297
03:24:37,680 --> 03:24:38,669
that someone start construction

4298
03:24:38,669 --> 03:24:41,690
without a final decision

4299
03:24:41,240 --> 03:24:44,240
knowingly approved by this body

4300
03:24:44,509 --> 03:24:46,244
is, and I know it's permitted,

4301
03:24:46,244 --> 03:24:49,481
we need to look at that and

4302
03:24:49,481 --> 03:24:52,351
also make sure these things

4303
03:24:52,351 --> 03:24:55,951
don't happen so I'm hoping you

4304
03:25:03,428 --> 03:25:04,629
guys review it and finally I'm

4305
03:25:04,629 --> 03:25:06,598
going to do a plug for what I

4306
03:25:06,598 --> 03:25:08,499
said earlier on this dais talk

4307
03:25:08,499 --> 03:25:10,434
about affordable housing, we

4308
03:25:10,434 --> 03:25:11,602
need to talk about your

4309
03:25:11,602 --> 03:25:13,537
affordable housing boundary

4310
03:25:13,537 --> 03:25:15,439
from aventura to florida city

4311
03:25:15,439 --> 03:25:19,390
and let us have everybody stop

4312
03:25:20,610 --> 03:25:21,611
getting us testimony that isn't

4313
03:25:21,611 --> 03:25:22,779
accurate.

4314
03:25:22,779 --> 03:25:23,747
>>chair: we have a motion to

4315
03:25:23,747 --> 03:25:25,747
defer, second.

4316
03:25:25,782 --> 03:25:27,617
All in favor of the deferral

4317
03:25:27,617 --> 03:25:28,785
signify by saying aye.

4318
03:25:28,785 --> 03:25:31,785
Opposed, nay. Show the item

4319
03:25:34,657 --> 03:25:34,890
deferred until the mid OCTOBER

4320
03:25:34,890 --> 03:25:36,691
meeting.

4321
03:25:36,691 --> 03:25:38,627
So now I'm going to take up

4322
03:25:38,627 --> 03:25:39,828
together if anybody needs to

4323
03:25:39,828 --> 03:25:41,730
split afterwards for voting

4324
03:25:41,730 --> 03:25:43,632
purposes we can and I'm going

4325
03:25:43,632 --> 03:25:44,866
to take together the strict

4326
03:25:44,866 --> 03:25:48,466
task force items which is 5f,

4327
03:25:50,400 --> 03:25:51,205
5f and 5h substitute.

4328
03:25:51,205 --> 03:25:54,805
At the appropriate time to make

4329
03:25:56,143 --> 03:25:58,145
it easier I've heard all of the

4330
03:25:58,145 --> 03:25:59,713
concerns and discussions of

4331
03:25:59,713 --> 03:26:01,150
those that came up to speak.

4332
03:26:01,150 --> 03:26:04,615
And so at the appropriate time

4333
03:26:06,286 --> 03:26:09,886
I'll ask the attorneys to guide

4334
03:26:11,324 --> 03:26:13,193
me so I can bifurcate or remove

4335
03:26:13,193 --> 03:26:15,593
5f, number nine, 10, 11 which

4336
03:26:16,696 --> 03:26:19,565
will essentially fix the few

4337
03:26:19,565 --> 03:26:19,765
concerns that were spoken

4338
03:26:19,765 --> 03:26:21,734
about.

4339
03:26:21,734 --> 03:26:25,334
I had already removed prior to

4340
03:26:27,773 --> 03:26:29,700
today in the substitute but we

4341
03:26:29,700 --> 03:26:32,607
will go ahead and remove nine,

4342
03:26:33,911 --> 03:26:35,780
10 and 11 from item 5f and work

4343
03:26:35,780 --> 03:26:37,782
on that with the sp community

4344
03:26:37,782 --> 03:26:37,982
and bring it back as a separate

4345
03:26:37,982 --> 03:26:39,982
item.

4346
03:26:46,457 --> 03:26:47,691
But when we created the task

4347
03:26:47,691 --> 03:26:49,760
force, the special task force

4348
03:26:49,760 --> 03:26:51,695
year to reduce inefficiencies

4349
03:26:51,695 --> 03:26:53,530
and procurement or strip as we

4350
03:26:53,530 --> 03:26:55,498
call it back in MAY 2025, the

4351
03:26:55,498 --> 03:26:56,666
goal was to take a hard look at

4352
03:26:56,666 --> 03:26:59,660
our procurement system and

4353
03:27:00,803 --> 03:27:01,971
identify opportunities to

4354
03:27:01,971 --> 03:27:03,940
improve, develop practical

4355
03:27:03,940 --> 03:27:06,809
solutions that make the process

4356
03:27:06,809 --> 03:27:08,809
more efficient, transparent,

4357
03:27:08,811 --> 03:27:10,813
competitive and accountable and

4358
03:27:10,813 --> 03:27:11,980
after months of work and many

4359
03:27:11,980 --> 03:27:14,980
meetings this task force had

4360
03:27:16,785 --> 03:27:17,919
with public hearing to come

4361
03:27:17,919 --> 03:27:19,788
from the public as well the

4362
03:27:19,788 --> 03:27:20,889
task force has completed its

4363
03:27:20,889 --> 03:27:23,291
charge and it delivered to my

4364
03:27:23,291 --> 03:27:25,291
office 59 final recommendations

4365
03:27:29,963 --> 03:27:31,999
that provides this board with a

4366
03:27:31,999 --> 03:27:33,133
roadmap for meaningful

4367
03:27:33,133 --> 03:27:34,968
procurement reform, something

4368
03:27:34,968 --> 03:27:35,169
that has not been done in

4369
03:27:35,169 --> 03:27:36,970
years.

4370
03:27:36,970 --> 03:27:38,271
We've touched procurement

4371
03:27:38,271 --> 03:27:40,106
throughout the years but not in

4372
03:27:40,106 --> 03:27:42,506
a holistic overall reform.

4373
03:27:46,179 --> 03:27:47,380
Most importantly these 59

4374
03:27:47,380 --> 03:27:49,380
recommendations when applied

4375
03:27:57,689 --> 03:27:57,956
into law and is passed will be

4376
03:27:57,956 --> 03:27:59,691
measured.

4377
03:27:59,691 --> 03:28:01,694
It will have a measurable

4378
03:28:01,694 --> 03:28:02,694
impact on the procurement

4379
03:28:02,694 --> 03:28:04,694
timeline.

4380
03:28:04,696 --> 03:28:05,864
Currently the estimated

4381
03:28:05,864 --> 03:28:06,698
procurement process takes 349

4382
03:28:06,698 --> 03:28:07,865
days.

4383
03:28:07,865 --> 03:28:10,101
That's the average and as we

4384
03:28:10,101 --> 03:28:11,769
know sometimes it goes way over

4385
03:28:11,769 --> 03:28:13,704
that number, rarely does it go

4386
03:28:13,704 --> 03:28:14,973
beyond 349 days is a

4387
03:28:14,973 --> 03:28:16,807
conservative average number.

4388
03:28:16,807 --> 03:28:18,208
By implementing these items

4389
03:28:18,208 --> 03:28:20,144
that came out of strip that

4390
03:28:20,144 --> 03:28:22,145
will bring it down and reduce

4391
03:28:22,145 --> 03:28:25,145
it to somewhere between 120 to

4392
03:28:28,180 --> 03:28:29,252
100 50 days, that's over 60%

4393
03:28:29,252 --> 03:28:31,120
reduction in time savings and

4394
03:28:31,120 --> 03:28:33,523
as we discussed before when the

4395
03:28:33,523 --> 03:28:35,491
strip committee was passed time

4396
03:28:35,491 --> 03:28:37,891
reduction also means taxpayers

4397
03:28:42,997 --> 03:28:44,866
save money, costs stay of the

4398
03:28:44,866 --> 03:28:45,867
original price, it does not

4399
03:28:45,867 --> 03:28:47,102
continue to raise.

4400
03:28:47,102 --> 03:28:48,690
Unless change orders, less

4401
03:28:48,690 --> 03:28:50,690
price adjustments.

4402
03:28:50,872 --> 03:28:52,872
It maintains transparency,

4403
03:28:53,141 --> 03:28:54,776
competition and accountability.

4404
03:28:54,776 --> 03:28:56,711
I want to thank every member of

4405
03:28:56,711 --> 03:28:57,378
the task force for their time,

4406
03:28:57,378 --> 03:28:59,347
expertise and dedication.

4407
03:28:59,347 --> 03:29:02,347
I know some people mentioned

4408
03:29:03,484 --> 03:29:05,385
there was sbe on there, there

4409
03:29:05,385 --> 03:29:06,720
was a locally headquartered

4410
03:29:06,720 --> 03:29:08,621
companies on their.

4411
03:29:08,621 --> 03:29:10,891
I know for a fact there were

4412
03:29:10,891 --> 03:29:12,920
three locally headquartered

4413
03:29:12,920 --> 03:29:15,920
companies but at least three

4414
03:29:16,462 --> 03:29:18,462
that I remember.

4415
03:29:18,464 --> 03:29:22,664
But I want to commend them for

4416
03:29:31,644 --> 03:29:31,876
striking a balanced work

4417
03:29:31,876 --> 03:29:33,678
product.

4418
03:29:33,678 --> 03:29:35,647
Demanding professionalism,

4419
03:29:35,647 --> 03:29:36,914
professional schedules and

4420
03:29:36,914 --> 03:29:38,783
professional recommendations

4421
03:29:38,783 --> 03:29:40,651
and it's difficult when you're

4422
03:29:40,651 --> 03:29:41,853
there and you work for a

4423
03:29:41,853 --> 03:29:43,754
company and it's hard to be

4424
03:29:43,754 --> 03:29:46,257
unbiased but I think they did a

4425
03:29:46,257 --> 03:29:48,125
decent job at doing that, every

4426
03:29:48,125 --> 03:29:49,192
member and I want to give a

4427
03:29:49,192 --> 03:29:51,127
special thanks to our

4428
03:29:51,127 --> 03:29:53,130
CHAIRWOMAN Diana mendez who is

4429
03:29:53,130 --> 03:29:54,364
here today I believe, thank you

4430
03:29:54,364 --> 03:29:56,266
for chairing the committee and

4431
03:29:56,266 --> 03:29:58,201
I have some members of the

4432
03:29:58,201 --> 03:30:00,137
committee present so I want to

4433
03:30:00,137 --> 03:30:01,138
specifically thank those that

4434
03:30:01,138 --> 03:30:02,306
made it out today.

4435
03:30:02,306 --> 03:30:03,307
I have aaron, let me see, I

4436
03:30:03,307 --> 03:30:05,707
have my list here.

4437
03:30:14,485 --> 03:30:14,785
I have aaron, thank you for

4438
03:30:14,785 --> 03:30:16,553
being here.

4439
03:30:16,553 --> 03:30:17,654
I see rudy from afar, thank you

4440
03:30:17,654 --> 03:30:19,389
for being here.

4441
03:30:19,389 --> 03:30:19,590
Anyone else from the committee

4442
03:30:19,590 --> 03:30:21,525
here?

4443
03:30:21,525 --> 03:30:25,125
Thank you for coming out today

4444
03:30:25,563 --> 03:30:25,796
and thank you for having

4445
03:30:25,796 --> 03:30:27,565
served.

4446
03:30:27,565 --> 03:30:31,235
I know all your time and those

4447
03:30:31,235 --> 03:30:32,470
of the committee are very

4448
03:30:32,470 --> 03:30:34,372
impressed yet you still make it

4449
03:30:34,372 --> 03:30:36,273
to the committee and make it

4450
03:30:36,273 --> 03:30:39,873
happened and I had faith in

4451
03:30:40,450 --> 03:30:41,980
you, MADAM Mayor.

4452
03:30:41,980 --> 03:30:44,916
>>mayor cava: I wanted to add

4453
03:30:44,916 --> 03:30:48,186
we thank the staff members I

4454
03:30:48,186 --> 03:30:50,880
will wait.

4455
03:30:50,880 --> 03:30:53,688
>>chair: I want to take a

4456
03:30:59,697 --> 03:31:00,832
moment and thank namita, are

4457
03:31:00,832 --> 03:31:02,667
you here, I'm sure you are.

4458
03:31:02,667 --> 03:31:06,267
Thank you as well because I

4459
03:31:10,976 --> 03:31:12,244
know even for yourself it was

4460
03:31:12,244 --> 03:31:14,146
difficult and challenging to

4461
03:31:14,146 --> 03:31:15,948
deal with all the committee

4462
03:31:15,948 --> 03:31:17,490
members, striking a balance

4463
03:31:17,490 --> 03:31:18,950
between of course the

4464
03:31:18,950 --> 03:31:20,950
administrations priorities with

4465
03:31:20,987 --> 03:31:22,989
some of the recommendations and

4466
03:31:22,989 --> 03:31:24,156
honestly I could not think more

4467
03:31:24,156 --> 03:31:26,910
highly of you after this strip

4468
03:31:26,910 --> 03:31:28,160
has concluded so thank you for

4469
03:31:28,160 --> 03:31:30,560
being honest, being balanced

4470
03:31:32,965 --> 03:31:34,901
and neutral in your work.

4471
03:31:34,901 --> 03:31:36,302
I appreciate you and of course

4472
03:31:36,302 --> 03:31:37,870
your entire team, to the

4473
03:31:37,870 --> 03:31:39,370
mayor's point all the staff

4474
03:31:39,370 --> 03:31:40,873
that worked on this including

4475
03:31:40,873 --> 03:31:42,420
staff at the office of the

4476
03:31:42,420 --> 03:31:44,100
chair and the bcc that was

4477
03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:46,460
involved from thea to jasmine

4478
03:31:46,460 --> 03:31:47,947
to christina and I know I'm

4479
03:31:47,947 --> 03:31:49,883
missing a few but thank you all

4480
03:31:49,883 --> 03:31:53,483
that played a role in this.

4481
03:32:03,163 --> 03:32:05,132
These recommendations will help

4482
03:32:05,132 --> 03:32:07,000
create clear timelines, reduce

4483
03:32:07,000 --> 03:32:09,000
unnecessary delays and

4484
03:32:09,200 --> 03:32:10,400
bureaucracy, increase

4485
03:32:10,400 --> 03:32:11,172
transparency and

4486
03:32:11,172 --> 03:32:13,700
accountability, make the

4487
03:32:13,700 --> 03:32:14,241
process easier and more

4488
03:32:14,241 --> 03:32:16,210
predictable for businesses,

4489
03:32:16,210 --> 03:32:18,211
make it easier for businesses

4490
03:32:18,211 --> 03:32:20,148
to do business with miami-dade

4491
03:32:20,148 --> 03:32:22,490
county and at the same time I

4492
03:32:22,490 --> 03:32:23,116
have heard as mentioned

4493
03:32:23,116 --> 03:32:25,152
directly from the small

4494
03:32:25,152 --> 03:32:27,210
business community I've spoken

4495
03:32:27,210 --> 03:32:29,220
to them prior to today's

4496
03:32:29,220 --> 03:32:30,291
meeting and received several

4497
03:32:30,291 --> 03:32:32,126
calls and emails and heard them

4498
03:32:32,126 --> 03:32:33,994
come up to the podium so as I

4499
03:32:33,994 --> 03:32:35,229
said I will be removing from 5f

4500
03:32:35,229 --> 03:32:37,131
those three numbers that sbe's.

4501
03:32:37,131 --> 03:32:39,330
i want to bring that back once

4502
03:32:39,330 --> 03:32:40,101
we can connect with them and

4503
03:32:40,101 --> 03:32:42,360
engage some of the strip

4504
03:32:42,360 --> 03:32:44,380
committee members to assist

4505
03:32:44,380 --> 03:32:45,173
with that and reengage on that

4506
03:32:45,173 --> 03:32:47,800
but I want to make sure we

4507
03:32:47,800 --> 03:32:50,800
finalize a complete package of

4508
03:32:55,917 --> 03:32:57,886
procurement reform.

4509
03:32:57,886 --> 03:32:59,787
I've always talked about this,

4510
03:32:59,787 --> 03:33:00,889
many of us say this, something

4511
03:33:00,889 --> 03:33:02,824
you here often but small

4512
03:33:02,824 --> 03:33:03,925
businesses are the backbone of

4513
03:33:03,925 --> 03:33:05,894
our community and I believe

4514
03:33:05,894 --> 03:33:07,795
that as a small business owner

4515
03:33:07,795 --> 03:33:09,797
myself so the last thing I want

4516
03:33:09,797 --> 03:33:11,800
to do is change anything in the

4517
03:33:11,800 --> 03:33:12,901
item that has any unintended

4518
03:33:12,901 --> 03:33:14,803
consequences so we will

4519
03:33:14,803 --> 03:33:16,400
continue working on it but I

4520
03:33:16,400 --> 03:33:17,973
want to make sure we pass the

4521
03:33:17,973 --> 03:33:19,808
stuff that does not affect it

4522
03:33:19,808 --> 03:33:21,100
because we can get to work

4523
03:33:21,100 --> 03:33:22,812
right away, save time right

4524
03:33:22,812 --> 03:33:24,813
away and cut down on the

4525
03:33:24,813 --> 03:33:26,150
timeline and I.E. Start saving

4526
03:33:26,150 --> 03:33:28,415
taxpayer dollars right away.

4527
03:33:28,817 --> 03:33:30,787
Our reforms should never

4528
03:33:30,787 --> 03:33:32,787
unintentionally create barriers

4529
03:33:32,789 --> 03:33:33,322
that make it harder for small

4530
03:33:33,322 --> 03:33:35,124
businesses to succeed and

4531
03:33:35,124 --> 03:33:36,250
that's what I want to work on

4532
03:33:36,250 --> 03:33:38,250
it carefully.

4533
03:33:38,930 --> 03:33:40,300
These recommendations are an

4534
03:33:40,300 --> 03:33:42,310
important first step towards a

4535
03:33:42,310 --> 03:33:43,199
clear and more user-friendly

4536
03:33:43,199 --> 03:33:45,599
procurement manual, one that

4537
03:33:48,400 --> 03:33:49,906
provides better guidance, make

4538
03:33:49,906 --> 03:33:51,908
those easier to understand and

4539
03:33:51,908 --> 03:33:53,109
gives business greater clarity

4540
03:33:53,109 --> 03:33:54,911
about working with the county.

4541
03:33:54,911 --> 03:33:56,780
This is about more than

4542
03:33:56,780 --> 03:33:58,881
changing a process on paper,

4543
03:33:58,881 --> 03:34:00,884
it's about saving time reducing

4544
03:34:00,884 --> 03:34:02,190
bureaucracy increasing

4545
03:34:02,190 --> 03:34:03,887
accountability and making

4546
03:34:03,887 --> 03:34:05,880
miami-dade county easier to do

4547
03:34:05,880 --> 03:34:06,890
business with you and I look

4548
03:34:06,890 --> 03:34:08,892
forward to work with my

4549
03:34:08,892 --> 03:34:09,994
colleagues and share the next

4550
03:34:09,994 --> 03:34:11,895
steps in the months ahead.

4551
03:34:11,895 --> 03:34:13,130
with that I'd like to call up

4552
03:34:13,130 --> 03:34:14,998
first CHAIRWOMAN Diana mendez

4553
03:34:14,998 --> 03:34:16,900
to share a few remarks about

4554
03:34:16,900 --> 03:34:18,902
the task force and its final

4555
03:34:18,902 --> 03:34:20,905
report and if you wanted to be

4556
03:34:20,905 --> 03:34:22,273
recognized of course we can

4557
03:34:22,273 --> 03:34:23,974
recognize you as well.

4558
03:34:23,974 --> 03:34:26,760
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN collects good

4559
03:34:26,760 --> 03:34:27,877
morning commissioners, diana

4560
03:34:27,877 --> 03:34:29,120
mendez at the government

4561
03:34:29,120 --> 03:34:32,120
contracts group and for the

4562
03:34:33,150 --> 03:34:35,186
past year I've had the honor of

4563
03:34:35,186 --> 03:34:37,154
chairing the special task force

4564
03:34:37,154 --> 03:34:38,389
to reduce inefficiencies in

4565
03:34:38,389 --> 03:34:41,389
procurement and also I'm part

4566
03:34:42,493 --> 03:34:44,893
of the association model

4567
03:34:45,129 --> 03:34:46,230
procurement revision so both

4568
03:34:46,230 --> 03:34:47,832
projects have been very

4569
03:34:47,832 --> 03:34:49,500
important for me the past year,

4570
03:34:49,500 --> 03:34:51,900
bringing knowledge from the

4571
03:34:54,172 --> 03:34:55,974
nation to miami-dade county and

4572
03:34:55,974 --> 03:34:57,608
likewise bringing the

4573
03:34:57,608 --> 03:35:00,800
experience of miami-dade county

4574
03:35:05,217 --> 03:35:05,483
to the water procurement

4575
03:35:05,483 --> 03:35:07,419
community.

4576
03:35:07,419 --> 03:35:10,419
So following the mandate given

4577
03:35:14,959 --> 03:35:16,862
to us by this board, and the

4578
03:35:16,862 --> 03:35:18,830
resolution that of course was

4579
03:35:18,830 --> 03:35:20,833
sponsored by CHAIRMAN Anthony

4580
03:35:20,833 --> 03:35:22,835
rodriguez, for about a year the

4581
03:35:22,835 --> 03:35:24,837
task force on average twice a

4582
03:35:24,837 --> 03:35:26,104
month to learn from each other,

4583
03:35:26,104 --> 03:35:27,906
collaborate from each other and

4584
03:35:27,906 --> 03:35:29,842
of course from staff to

4585
03:35:29,842 --> 03:35:31,844
recommend changes to the

4586
03:35:31,844 --> 03:35:33,450
counties procurement process

4587
03:35:33,450 --> 03:35:35,445
that enhanced the efficiency

4588
03:35:39,651 --> 03:35:41,651
without sacrificing the

4589
03:35:41,654 --> 03:35:42,855
fairness and transparency which

4590
03:35:42,855 --> 03:35:44,824
is the ultimate goal of any

4591
03:35:44,824 --> 03:35:46,759
public procurement framework.

4592
03:35:46,759 --> 03:35:47,893
That requires as the chair

4593
03:35:47,893 --> 03:35:50,893
mentioned a lot of balance.

4594
03:35:55,680 --> 03:35:56,235
As you can see from the task

4595
03:35:56,235 --> 03:35:58,700
force members who are here

4596
03:35:58,700 --> 03:36:00,730
today, our task force members

4597
03:36:00,730 --> 03:36:00,374
come from many different

4598
03:36:00,374 --> 03:36:02,241
industries.

4599
03:36:02,241 --> 03:36:05,780
We have members that came from

4600
03:36:05,780 --> 03:36:07,780
the development industry,

4601
03:36:07,790 --> 03:36:09,790
procurement attorneys with

4602
03:36:09,810 --> 03:36:11,481
decades of experience in

4603
03:36:12,619 --> 03:36:13,687
procurement, consultants and of

4604
03:36:13,687 --> 03:36:15,622
course members of the

4605
03:36:15,622 --> 03:36:16,823
architects and engineering

4606
03:36:16,823 --> 03:36:18,625
community, some of which have

4607
03:36:18,625 --> 03:36:19,826
grown from being small

4608
03:36:19,826 --> 03:36:20,628
businesses to large businesses

4609
03:36:20,628 --> 03:36:22,628
today.

4610
03:36:22,630 --> 03:36:23,864
And while we had many different

4611
03:36:23,864 --> 03:36:25,699
views and a lot of disagreement

4612
03:36:25,699 --> 03:36:27,634
there is something I know we

4613
03:36:27,634 --> 03:36:28,902
all share and that is an

4614
03:36:28,902 --> 03:36:30,138
appreciation for the importance

4615
03:36:30,138 --> 03:36:32,500
that procurement has in

4616
03:36:32,500 --> 03:36:34,405
everything our county does.

4617
03:36:39,120 --> 03:36:40,281
From staff to industry we all

4618
03:36:40,281 --> 03:36:42,150
understand how important that

4619
03:36:42,150 --> 03:36:44,185
is and for that reason we are

4620
03:36:44,185 --> 03:36:46,200
very thankful to you CHAIRMAN

4621
03:36:46,200 --> 03:36:48,420
Rodriguez for creating this

4622
03:36:50,992 --> 03:36:52,227
initiative, to mayor cava for

4623
03:36:52,227 --> 03:36:54,620
sharing all the resources you

4624
03:36:54,620 --> 03:36:55,263
are able to give us, the

4625
03:36:55,263 --> 03:36:57,265
knowledge that staff was able

4626
03:36:57,265 --> 03:36:59,700
to provide us, director namita

4627
03:36:59,700 --> 03:37:02,704
and staff were there each way

4628
03:37:02,704 --> 03:37:04,706
of the process and their

4629
03:37:04,706 --> 03:37:05,840
dedication and concern for

4630
03:37:05,840 --> 03:37:07,840
improving the county

4631
03:37:30,666 --> 03:37:32,501
procurement process was visible

4632
03:37:32,501 --> 03:37:33,769
and its visible not only

4633
03:37:33,769 --> 03:37:35,704
through all the accolades that

4634
03:37:35,704 --> 03:37:37,506
are procurement department

4635
03:37:37,506 --> 03:37:38,640
receives from national

4636
03:37:38,640 --> 03:37:40,510
organizations but it was

4637
03:37:40,510 --> 03:37:41,711
visible to us throughout this

4638
03:37:41,711 --> 03:37:42,678
procurement even in times when

4639
03:37:42,678 --> 03:37:44,613
we disagreed.

4640
03:37:44,613 --> 03:37:46,515
The recommendations you will

4641
03:37:46,515 --> 03:37:47,650
find in our report, many of

4642
03:37:47,650 --> 03:37:49,618
which were included in the

4643
03:37:49,618 --> 03:37:51,521
items sponsored by the chair

4644
03:37:51,521 --> 03:37:52,688
were the result of a careful

4645
03:37:52,688 --> 03:37:54,657
examination of each phase of

4646
03:37:54,657 --> 03:37:56,657
the procurement process.

4647
03:37:56,659 --> 03:37:58,527
That means that we studied

4648
03:37:58,527 --> 03:37:59,796
issues that go beyond

4649
03:37:59,796 --> 03:38:01,698
architectural engineers items

4650
03:38:01,698 --> 03:38:03,700
or small businesses and we had

4651
03:38:03,700 --> 03:38:04,667
really went from each, we

4652
03:38:04,667 --> 03:38:05,635
studied each part of the

4653
03:38:05,635 --> 03:38:07,603
procurement process.

4654
03:38:07,603 --> 03:38:09,509
We analyzed how this focus

4655
03:38:09,509 --> 03:38:10,707
develops, that's a part that

4656
03:38:10,707 --> 03:38:13,510
sometimes is not as visible but

4657
03:38:13,510 --> 03:38:14,744
it's one of the important parts

4658
03:38:14,744 --> 03:38:16,513
because it's the foundation of

4659
03:38:16,513 --> 03:38:17,647
the whole procurement.

4660
03:38:17,647 --> 03:38:19,516
So we studied the scope,

4661
03:38:19,516 --> 03:38:20,784
studied the evaluations

4662
03:38:20,784 --> 03:38:22,653
process, what improvements we

4663
03:38:22,653 --> 03:38:24,521
can make all the way through

4664
03:38:24,521 --> 03:38:25,722
how we look at the issues that

4665
03:38:25,722 --> 03:38:27,624
came up through at issues that

4666
03:38:27,624 --> 03:38:29,659
came up in procurement as well

4667
03:38:29,659 --> 03:38:31,528
as improvements we can make to

4668
03:38:31,528 --> 03:38:34,310
the award process and beyond

4669
03:38:34,310 --> 03:38:37,310
which is the performance of

4670
03:38:38,335 --> 03:38:40,735
vendors and contractors during

4671
03:38:43,975 --> 03:38:44,207
their contract years with the

4672
03:38:44,207 --> 03:38:46,177
county.

4673
03:38:46,177 --> 03:38:47,978
So with that we hope you will

4674
03:38:47,978 --> 03:38:49,978
find these recommendations

4675
03:38:52,951 --> 03:38:54,885
useful and I'm happy to answer

4676
03:38:54,885 --> 03:38:56,870
any questions any of the

4677
03:38:56,870 --> 03:38:57,922
commissioners MAY have about

4678
03:38:57,922 --> 03:39:00,922
this process, not an mayor

4679
03:39:01,626 --> 03:39:02,794
anyone please use us as a

4680
03:39:02,794 --> 03:39:04,629
resource and we are happy to

4681
03:39:04,629 --> 03:39:06,397
provide our knowledge and

4682
03:39:06,397 --> 03:39:08,397
resource, thank you.

4683
03:39:08,533 --> 03:39:12,133
>> I alluded to it earlier but

4684
03:39:14,306 --> 03:39:17,306
I will reiterate all the

4685
03:39:22,214 --> 03:39:23,448
members here from strikeforce

4686
03:39:23,448 --> 03:39:25,350
are included in this comment

4687
03:39:25,350 --> 03:39:27,185
and some not here as well but

4688
03:39:27,185 --> 03:39:28,420
one of my biggest fears that

4689
03:39:28,420 --> 03:39:32,620
want to make sure my team kept

4690
03:39:37,629 --> 03:39:39,598
tabs on is that at no time many

4691
03:39:39,598 --> 03:39:41,467
of the strip committee members

4692
03:39:41,467 --> 03:39:42,702
would put their personal

4693
03:39:42,702 --> 03:39:44,570
interests before that of the

4694
03:39:44,570 --> 03:39:48,770
county and I will tell you not

4695
03:39:48,874 --> 03:39:50,810
just because they've told me,

4696
03:39:50,810 --> 03:39:52,110
because of hearsay but I've

4697
03:39:52,110 --> 03:39:52,946
seen it first hand in the item

4698
03:39:52,946 --> 03:39:54,213
that's in here.

4699
03:39:54,213 --> 03:39:56,782
But all these committee members

4700
03:39:56,782 --> 03:39:58,918
and the vast majority of them

4701
03:39:58,918 --> 03:40:00,918
supported recommendations out

4702
03:40:07,693 --> 03:40:09,728
of strip that were unfavorable

4703
03:40:09,728 --> 03:40:11,631
to their organizations.

4704
03:40:11,631 --> 03:40:13,500
But they all agreed it was the

4705
03:40:13,500 --> 03:40:14,701
right thing to do for the

4706
03:40:14,701 --> 03:40:17,270
county as a whole so I thank

4707
03:40:17,270 --> 03:40:18,404
you and I think everyone has as

4708
03:40:18,404 --> 03:40:20,273
much faith in you all as

4709
03:40:20,273 --> 03:40:21,475
perhaps we did over here and

4710
03:40:21,475 --> 03:40:23,343
those that were nominated, some

4711
03:40:23,343 --> 03:40:25,278
of you but you guys did an

4712
03:40:25,278 --> 03:40:26,846
excellent job so thank you for

4713
03:40:26,846 --> 03:40:30,446
doing that twice a month and

4714
03:40:33,200 --> 03:40:34,188
next time well spent on what's

4715
03:40:34,188 --> 03:40:36,890
been an important issue so

4716
03:40:36,890 --> 03:40:39,290
thank you MADAM CHAIRMAN.

4717
03:40:43,431 --> 03:40:44,498
>> thank you to you for taking

4718
03:40:44,498 --> 03:40:45,599
on this ambitious task,

4719
03:40:45,599 --> 03:40:47,501
certainly something I will be

4720
03:40:47,501 --> 03:40:48,669
for the benefit of not only our

4721
03:40:48,669 --> 03:40:50,669
administration, the

4722
03:40:55,309 --> 03:40:56,444
commissioners and the public in

4723
03:40:56,444 --> 03:40:58,379
facilitating the process.

4724
03:40:58,379 --> 03:41:00,315
As you think the members to

4725
03:41:00,315 --> 03:41:02,317
acknowledge it was a tremendous

4726
03:41:02,317 --> 03:41:03,718
amount of work, they took it on

4727
03:41:03,718 --> 03:41:05,386
diligently, our staffs

4728
03:41:05,386 --> 03:41:07,321
expertise very critical to the

4729
03:41:07,321 --> 03:41:08,322
process and especially to the

4730
03:41:08,322 --> 03:41:10,322
CHAIRWOMAN.

4731
03:41:24,500 --> 03:41:24,940
Facilitated with grace and

4732
03:41:24,940 --> 03:41:26,107
great skill.

4733
03:41:26,107 --> 03:41:28,809
To get to the finish line.

4734
03:41:28,809 --> 03:41:30,790
I want to thank you as well for

4735
03:41:30,790 --> 03:41:32,130
acknowledging some of the items

4736
03:41:32,130 --> 03:41:32,981
that need to be considered

4737
03:41:32,981 --> 03:41:33,848
further.

4738
03:41:33,848 --> 03:41:35,170
I do want to also

4739
03:41:35,170 --> 03:41:36,818
acknowledge some of the items

4740
03:41:36,818 --> 03:41:38,860
were already underway

4741
03:41:38,860 --> 03:41:39,989
administratively through our

4742
03:41:39,989 --> 03:41:41,824
staffs efforts and the staff is

4743
03:41:41,824 --> 03:41:42,992
eager to proceed to turn all

4744
03:41:42,992 --> 03:41:44,927
these into a single volume if

4745
03:41:44,927 --> 03:41:46,829
you will that will make it easy

4746
03:41:46,829 --> 03:41:48,831
leave, readily accessible to

4747
03:41:48,831 --> 03:41:50,833
everyone to understand the

4748
03:41:50,833 --> 03:41:52,680
myriad rules that we do have.

4749
03:41:52,680 --> 03:41:53,903
Overall this will save us time,

4750
03:41:53,903 --> 03:41:55,710
save us money and lead to

4751
03:41:55,710 --> 03:41:58,710
better outcomes so thank you

4752
03:41:59,141 --> 03:42:01,143
very much MR. Chair.

4753
03:42:01,143 --> 03:42:03,111
>>chair: I guess two or three

4754
03:42:03,111 --> 03:42:05,460
members bifurcated items but

4755
03:42:05,460 --> 03:42:06,447
start I'll entertain a motion

4756
03:42:06,447 --> 03:42:09,447
on the, all the items.

4757
03:42:13,254 --> 03:42:15,222
>> I move 5 feet through 5h.

4758
03:42:15,222 --> 03:42:18,222
And its substitute in the

4759
03:42:18,426 --> 03:42:20,361
removal of 5f, 910 and 11.

4760
03:42:20,361 --> 03:42:22,761
>>chair: motion, second by

4761
03:42:29,502 --> 03:42:30,703
commissioner orbis.

4762
03:42:30,703 --> 03:42:31,605
Commissioner, I'm going to go

4763
03:42:31,605 --> 03:42:33,506
to you last.

4764
03:42:33,506 --> 03:42:34,774
Happy to go first but I don't

4765
03:42:34,774 --> 03:42:35,742
want you to jump back in later,

4766
03:42:35,742 --> 03:42:37,742
it's your decision.

4767
03:42:38,511 --> 03:42:39,512
I want to start with you then,

4768
03:42:39,512 --> 03:42:41,512
commissioner lopez.

4769
03:42:41,514 --> 03:42:42,748
>> I want to thank you first of

4770
03:42:42,748 --> 03:42:43,883
all for hearing some of the

4771
03:42:43,883 --> 03:42:45,500
concerns, certainly this

4772
03:42:45,500 --> 03:42:48,500
committee did an amazing job

4773
03:42:49,554 --> 03:42:51,423
and it's undertaking anything

4774
03:42:51,423 --> 03:42:54,423
like this isn't always fixed

4775
03:43:07,104 --> 03:43:08,906
one time and I love that you're

4776
03:43:08,906 --> 03:43:10,730
going to continue to work

4777
03:43:10,730 --> 03:43:11,908
particularly with my small

4778
03:43:11,908 --> 03:43:13,143
businesses and in district 5

4779
03:43:13,143 --> 03:43:15,780
small businesses are not only

4780
03:43:15,780 --> 03:43:16,120
the foundation but I profiled

4781
03:43:16,120 --> 03:43:17,914
them every week.

4782
03:43:17,914 --> 03:43:19,915
I tried to find a small

4783
03:43:19,915 --> 03:43:21,884
business because government

4784
03:43:21,884 --> 03:43:23,919
shouldn't be an event to small

4785
03:43:23,919 --> 03:43:25,154
businesses, it should be a

4786
03:43:25,154 --> 03:43:27,230
motivating small businesses not

4787
03:43:27,230 --> 03:43:28,891
only to begin but to grow.

4788
03:43:28,891 --> 03:43:30,920
I want to thank you for the

4789
03:43:30,920 --> 03:43:31,994
removal of nine, 10, 11, 33,

4790
03:43:31,994 --> 03:43:33,929
3435 and 37, great job that

4791
03:43:33,929 --> 03:43:35,970
those are things that I have a

4792
03:43:35,970 --> 03:43:36,898
lot of concerns about and I

4793
03:43:36,898 --> 03:43:40,498
want to thank you for your

4794
03:43:44,906 --> 03:43:46,740
leadership on that but I do

4795
03:43:46,740 --> 03:43:47,909
want my small businesses to

4796
03:43:47,909 --> 03:43:49,810
know I will continue to work

4797
03:43:49,810 --> 03:43:51,120
with them in this commission

4798
03:43:51,120 --> 03:43:53,130
because it's the one thing I

4799
03:43:53,130 --> 03:43:55,480
want to do and have emphasized

4800
03:43:55,480 --> 03:43:57,170
since I became commissioner.

4801
03:43:57,170 --> 03:43:58,985
my support for small businesses

4802
03:43:58,985 --> 03:44:00,820
is a high priority in district

4803
03:44:00,820 --> 03:44:02,550
5 so I'm looking forward to

4804
03:44:02,550 --> 03:44:03,990
continuing to work with you but

4805
03:44:03,990 --> 03:44:05,825
this is the start of many good

4806
03:44:05,825 --> 03:44:07,827
things to come so thank you.

4807
03:44:07,827 --> 03:44:09,610
>>chair: on this side,

4808
03:44:09,610 --> 03:44:11,300
commissioner.

4809
03:44:11,300 --> 03:44:12,640
>>commissioner gilbert: I guess

4810
03:44:12,640 --> 03:44:13,999
15h could we delete the

4811
03:44:13,999 --> 03:44:16,100
requirement to drop the lowest

4812
03:44:16,100 --> 03:44:17,200
selection committee score from

4813
03:44:17,200 --> 03:44:18,137
procurement.

4814
03:44:18,137 --> 03:44:20,600
Because that's one of the

4815
03:44:20,600 --> 03:44:20,205
things that in case you're

4816
03:44:20,205 --> 03:44:22,107
with.

4817
03:44:22,107 --> 03:44:22,340
>>chair: if the director could

4818
03:44:22,340 --> 03:44:24,340
come up.

4819
03:44:24,542 --> 03:44:26,411
Can you address.

4820
03:44:26,411 --> 03:44:28,411
>> through the chair,

4821
03:44:28,413 --> 03:44:30,414
commissioner the yes, the

4822
03:44:30,414 --> 03:44:33,414
requirement to draw the low

4823
03:44:49,766 --> 03:44:51,766
score for architecture

4824
03:44:51,768 --> 03:44:53,769
engineering solicitations is no

4825
03:44:53,769 --> 03:44:54,904
longer the requirement so we

4826
03:44:54,904 --> 03:44:56,772
won't be dropping if this

4827
03:44:56,772 --> 03:44:58,774
passes, the reason being is as

4828
03:44:58,774 --> 03:44:59,975
a part of the efficiency we are

4829
03:44:59,975 --> 03:45:01,910
reducing the number of members

4830
03:45:01,910 --> 03:45:03,779
from 5 to 3. Up to $20 million

4831
03:45:03,779 --> 03:45:04,980
so if you drop the scores the

4832
03:45:04,980 --> 03:45:06,882
lowest there would be only two

4833
03:45:06,882 --> 03:45:07,115
people whose scores would be

4834
03:45:07,115 --> 03:45:08,883
counted.

4835
03:45:08,883 --> 03:45:10,785
And still we are going to do

4836
03:45:10,785 --> 03:45:11,986
the variation study of if the

4837
03:45:11,986 --> 03:45:13,954
scores deviate by 30% people

4838
03:45:13,954 --> 03:45:15,790
have to justify on the record.

4839
03:45:15,790 --> 03:45:17,792
So I think the safeguards are

4840
03:45:17,792 --> 03:45:19,260
in place to not to do that.

4841
03:45:19,260 --> 03:45:20,928
>>commissioner gilbert: you

4842
03:45:20,928 --> 03:45:22,290
said this but the answer is no

4843
03:45:22,290 --> 03:45:23,899
it has not been deleted.

4844
03:45:23,899 --> 03:45:26,899
So removal from the item.

4845
03:45:27,401 --> 03:45:29,302
I have an issue with that, plus

4846
03:45:29,302 --> 03:45:31,671
it's one of the things I think

4847
03:45:31,671 --> 03:45:33,506
we put in recently.

4848
03:45:33,506 --> 03:45:35,506
Because previously those

4849
03:45:37,210 --> 03:45:38,378
procurements, sometimes they

4850
03:45:38,378 --> 03:45:40,378
are extraordinary outliers.

4851
03:45:40,379 --> 03:45:43,480
not to say that anyone would do

4852
03:45:43,480 --> 03:45:45,480
it on purpose.

4853
03:45:45,830 --> 03:45:47,850
But sometimes people are taking

4854
03:45:47,850 --> 03:45:48,253
a score on purpose so there's a

4855
03:45:48,253 --> 03:45:51,253
reason we put that in.

4856
03:45:51,323 --> 03:45:52,524
So I wouldn't want to

4857
03:45:52,524 --> 03:45:54,492
disapprove of that and also on

4858
03:45:54,492 --> 03:45:56,892
the sunset small business

4859
03:45:59,196 --> 03:46:01,165
enterprise advisory board I'll

4860
03:46:01,165 --> 03:46:03,100
keep looking at that later but

4861
03:46:03,100 --> 03:46:05,690
it's my understanding that's

4862
03:46:05,690 --> 03:46:07,400
the board that sets the goals.

4863
03:46:07,400 --> 03:46:09,807
>> that's the board that sets

4864
03:46:09,807 --> 03:46:11,942
periodically, they just look at

4865
03:46:11,942 --> 03:46:13,877
how small businesses are doing,

4866
03:46:13,877 --> 03:46:15,812
what can they do differently to

4867
03:46:15,812 --> 03:46:17,470
give suggestions and ideas.

4868
03:46:17,470 --> 03:46:19,470
>>commissioner gilbert: who

4869
03:46:19,782 --> 03:46:21,717
would do that if they didn't do

4870
03:46:21,717 --> 03:46:22,952
it.

4871
03:46:22,952 --> 03:46:24,821
>> the german has withdrawn

4872
03:46:24,821 --> 03:46:26,689
that requirement but absent

4873
03:46:26,689 --> 03:46:29,791
that what we committed was we

4874
03:46:29,791 --> 03:46:30,960
will still need with industry

4875
03:46:30,960 --> 03:46:32,928
leaders, whoever does this

4876
03:46:32,928 --> 03:46:35,597
every month, every two months,

4877
03:46:35,597 --> 03:46:37,532
one meeting for any, one

4878
03:46:37,532 --> 03:46:39,467
meeting for construction to get

4879
03:46:39,467 --> 03:46:40,468
their ideas and feedback and

4880
03:46:40,468 --> 03:46:42,237
continue to work

4881
03:46:42,237 --> 03:46:43,270
collaboratively to implement

4882
03:46:43,270 --> 03:46:44,472
those.

4883
03:46:44,472 --> 03:46:46,472
>>commissioner gilbert: I'm

4884
03:46:46,474 --> 03:46:48,342
fine with that and I appreciate

4885
03:46:48,342 --> 03:46:49,510
you all being willing to meet

4886
03:46:49,510 --> 03:46:51,278
the reason why we have systems

4887
03:46:51,278 --> 03:46:53,247
and a lot of things.

4888
03:46:53,247 --> 03:46:56,183
That's not required with the

4889
03:46:56,183 --> 03:46:58,840
benevolence of administration.

4890
03:46:58,840 --> 03:47:02,284
So I would think that it's kind

4891
03:47:02,757 --> 03:47:03,958
of difficult to value our small

4892
03:47:03,958 --> 03:47:06,358
businesses that we actually

4893
03:47:09,964 --> 03:47:11,165
talk to them and they meet so I

4894
03:47:11,165 --> 03:47:12,934
think those are challenging

4895
03:47:12,934 --> 03:47:15,569
things to say together but

4896
03:47:15,569 --> 03:47:15,836
those are my observations MR.

4897
03:47:15,836 --> 03:47:17,605
CHAIRMAN.

4898
03:47:17,605 --> 03:47:18,706
I understand reducing the

4899
03:47:18,706 --> 03:47:20,706
amount of people.

4900
03:47:20,842 --> 03:47:22,430
I don't know reducing them is

4901
03:47:22,430 --> 03:47:24,412
the right move either but to

4902
03:47:24,412 --> 03:47:27,412
the extent, having been here

4903
03:47:31,953 --> 03:47:33,822
for a while you can see people

4904
03:47:33,822 --> 03:47:34,823
with scores life let's give

4905
03:47:34,823 --> 03:47:36,823
examples of 80, 80, 21.

4906
03:47:38,590 --> 03:47:41,590
That's just kind of crazy.

4907
03:47:41,930 --> 03:47:43,650
So that's why we put that in

4908
03:47:43,650 --> 03:47:45,330
there so I think that's

4909
03:47:45,330 --> 03:47:46,268
probably something that needs

4910
03:47:46,268 --> 03:47:48,268
to be addressed.

4911
03:47:49,972 --> 03:47:52,972
>>chair: when we went over

4912
03:47:53,542 --> 03:47:54,109
something that's something I

4913
03:47:54,109 --> 03:47:55,677
addressed.

4914
03:47:55,677 --> 03:47:59,877
The reason we added that in I

4915
03:48:00,416 --> 03:48:03,416
do understand it is reducing

4916
03:48:03,485 --> 03:48:07,850
from five members to three so

4917
03:48:07,623 --> 03:48:08,857
it's two numbers and that's why

4918
03:48:08,857 --> 03:48:12,457
they wanted to account for 3 so

4919
03:48:13,696 --> 03:48:17,296
in theory I agree with dropping

4920
03:48:17,466 --> 03:48:21,660
the last or lowest score but

4921
03:48:22,138 --> 03:48:23,406
bringing it down to three

4922
03:48:23,406 --> 03:48:25,806
members it's challenging to

4923
03:48:26,976 --> 03:48:28,978
drop one of them.

4924
03:48:28,978 --> 03:48:31,378
>>commissioner gilbert: what if

4925
03:48:32,882 --> 03:48:35,282
you have an outlier?

4926
03:48:39,122 --> 03:48:40,991
>> the current safeguard is we

4927
03:48:40,991 --> 03:48:43,160
do the average scores and if

4928
03:48:43,160 --> 03:48:44,696
somebody scores 33% or more

4929
03:48:44,696 --> 03:48:45,862
deviated from the average score

4930
03:48:45,862 --> 03:48:49,462
we ask that committee member to

4931
03:48:54,438 --> 03:48:55,572
either explain what the

4932
03:48:55,572 --> 03:48:57,441
rationale is and have a

4933
03:48:57,441 --> 03:48:58,674
discussion and sometimes they

4934
03:48:58,674 --> 03:49:02,813
MAY realize I made a mistake or

4935
03:49:02,813 --> 03:49:04,140
MAY say we keep it but the

4936
03:49:04,140 --> 03:49:07,140
deviation analysis is done for

4937
03:49:12,656 --> 03:49:13,858
all committee members.

4938
03:49:13,858 --> 03:49:15,659
>>commissioner gilbert: if

4939
03:49:15,659 --> 03:49:17,661
that's the option then I'd

4940
03:49:17,661 --> 03:49:18,862
rather stay with five members

4941
03:49:18,862 --> 03:49:21,320
because were saying if there is

4942
03:49:21,320 --> 03:49:22,967
an outlier we ask them about it

4943
03:49:22,967 --> 03:49:26,567
and they can't explain it, they

4944
03:49:27,271 --> 03:49:29,307
can stick to that score.

4945
03:49:29,307 --> 03:49:30,542
But it takes a lot to submit

4946
03:49:30,542 --> 03:49:32,510
these proposals.

4947
03:49:32,510 --> 03:49:36,110
So the reason why it's in

4948
03:49:36,581 --> 03:49:39,581
their, like you don't want

4949
03:49:41,686 --> 03:49:42,888
those scores that are

4950
03:49:42,888 --> 03:49:45,230
significantly below to be

4951
03:49:45,230 --> 03:49:48,230
counted because that one person

4952
03:49:52,764 --> 03:49:53,310
can tank somebody's entire

4953
03:49:53,310 --> 03:49:54,933
submittal.

4954
03:49:54,933 --> 03:49:56,935
And the reason why it exists is

4955
03:49:56,935 --> 03:49:59,935
because we saw it happening.

4956
03:50:04,543 --> 03:50:06,545
That's why that was in there.

4957
03:50:06,545 --> 03:50:07,646
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

4958
03:50:07,646 --> 03:50:09,646
MADAME CHAIRWOMAN, diana.

4959
03:50:12,117 --> 03:50:15,117
I know the specific portion

4960
03:50:21,361 --> 03:50:22,495
past 8 to 0. Can you walk us

4961
03:50:22,495 --> 03:50:25,495
through why we're we were

4962
03:50:28,367 --> 03:50:29,502
reducing it and the second

4963
03:50:29,502 --> 03:50:31,371
piece was reduced but the

4964
03:50:31,371 --> 03:50:32,172
reason for the objection is

4965
03:50:32,172 --> 03:50:35,172
it's so hard to get.

4966
03:50:35,875 --> 03:50:38,275
>> that's right MR. Chair.

4967
03:50:47,487 --> 03:50:49,489
It takes a lot to assemble an

4968
03:50:49,489 --> 03:50:50,624
evaluation committee.

4969
03:50:50,624 --> 03:50:52,626
Sometimes it's the little

4970
03:50:52,626 --> 03:50:54,528
procedural things nobody thinks

4971
03:50:54,528 --> 03:50:56,463
of that takes so much time but

4972
03:50:56,463 --> 03:50:57,597
they do and I see it all the

4973
03:50:57,597 --> 03:50:59,466
time, making public records

4974
03:50:59,466 --> 03:51:01,469
request and it's trying to

4975
03:51:01,469 --> 03:51:02,736
schedule one meeting because

4976
03:51:02,736 --> 03:51:04,672
everything of course needs to

4977
03:51:04,672 --> 03:51:06,607
be done under the sunshine so

4978
03:51:06,607 --> 03:51:08,608
we selected it based on that

4979
03:51:08,608 --> 03:51:10,711
certain thresholds for larger

4980
03:51:10,711 --> 03:51:13,614
contracts but you still have

4981
03:51:13,614 --> 03:51:15,115
the five-member committee, for

4982
03:51:15,115 --> 03:51:16,784
smaller contracts we concluded

4983
03:51:16,784 --> 03:51:17,684
that a three panel committee

4984
03:51:17,684 --> 03:51:19,684
would suffice.

4985
03:51:22,123 --> 03:51:25,126
But that entailed MR. Chair as

4986
03:51:25,126 --> 03:51:27,940
you mentioned we couldn't drop

4987
03:51:27,940 --> 03:51:30,694
the lowest score at that point

4988
03:51:37,205 --> 03:51:39,600
because then at that point the

4989
03:51:39,600 --> 03:51:40,242
selected proposer would be

4990
03:51:40,242 --> 03:51:42,210
selected based on the scores of

4991
03:51:42,210 --> 03:51:44,112
only 2 evaluation committee

4992
03:51:44,112 --> 03:51:46,140
members which defeats the whole

4993
03:51:46,140 --> 03:51:48,150
purpose of having one third

4994
03:51:48,150 --> 03:51:48,216
evaluation committee member

4995
03:51:48,216 --> 03:51:50,850
there.

4996
03:51:50,850 --> 03:51:52,200
>>chair: are we only if it's if

4997
03:51:52,200 --> 03:51:52,220
it's one there for the five as

4998
03:51:52,220 --> 03:51:54,220
well?

4999
03:51:57,292 --> 03:51:59,160
And probably namita should stay

5000
03:51:59,160 --> 03:52:01,960
at one podium, this is a big

5001
03:52:01,960 --> 03:52:04,366
package so we're going to have

5002
03:52:04,366 --> 03:52:06,301
a lot of questions.

5003
03:52:06,301 --> 03:52:08,170
>> the requirement is getting

5004
03:52:08,170 --> 03:52:09,171
eliminated from all

5005
03:52:09,171 --> 03:52:11,171
procurements.

5006
03:52:18,580 --> 03:52:20,550
Regardless of the threshold.

5007
03:52:20,550 --> 03:52:21,818
>>chair: would you feel

5008
03:52:21,818 --> 03:52:24,587
comfortable to remove it from

5009
03:52:24,587 --> 03:52:25,655
the smaller procurements, add

5010
03:52:25,655 --> 03:52:27,590
it back to the small

5011
03:52:27,590 --> 03:52:28,791
procurements but keep it off

5012
03:52:28,791 --> 03:52:32,391
from the bigger ones and have

5013
03:52:32,428 --> 03:52:34,396
five numbers.

5014
03:52:34,396 --> 03:52:35,565
>>commissioner gilbert: I was

5015
03:52:35,565 --> 03:52:37,399
interested in what you said

5016
03:52:37,399 --> 03:52:38,567
because you said we could

5017
03:52:38,567 --> 03:52:40,570
remove it, you'd be dropping

5018
03:52:40,570 --> 03:52:42,472
the third one and you couldn't

5019
03:52:42,472 --> 03:52:43,673
just have it based on the 2 but

5020
03:52:43,673 --> 03:52:45,541
even in that scenario if it

5021
03:52:45,541 --> 03:52:47,377
were larger you'd be dropping

5022
03:52:47,377 --> 03:52:48,677
the 50 it would still be

5023
03:52:48,677 --> 03:52:50,514
happening just on 4, still an

5024
03:52:50,514 --> 03:52:52,516
average of those scores so that

5025
03:52:52,516 --> 03:52:54,384
in and of itself it was a fake

5026
03:52:54,384 --> 03:52:56,386
company that it was some

5027
03:52:56,386 --> 03:52:57,254
unfairness, it really didn't

5028
03:52:57,254 --> 03:52:59,254
actually change anything.

5029
03:52:59,289 --> 03:53:01,258
It's still significant and let

5030
03:53:01,258 --> 03:53:03,227
me add those small contracts

5031
03:53:03,227 --> 03:53:04,295
small procurements are really

5032
03:53:04,295 --> 03:53:06,695
big to small businesses.

5033
03:53:08,498 --> 03:53:11,502
It's small in comparison to our

5034
03:53:11,502 --> 03:53:12,503
multibillion-dollar budget.

5035
03:53:12,503 --> 03:53:14,903
But not to them.

5036
03:53:18,675 --> 03:53:18,976
That would make me more

5037
03:53:18,976 --> 03:53:20,878
comfortable.

5038
03:53:20,878 --> 03:53:22,847
I think probably I'm okay with

5039
03:53:22,847 --> 03:53:25,847
that average, dropping it and

5040
03:53:31,155 --> 03:53:33,124
taking the average of 2.

5041
03:53:33,124 --> 03:53:34,392
I'm okay with that because what

5042
03:53:34,392 --> 03:53:36,227
we're saying is this person was

5043
03:53:36,227 --> 03:53:37,328
way out of line and in some

5044
03:53:37,328 --> 03:53:38,529
instances they dropped the

5045
03:53:38,529 --> 03:53:40,332
highest and the lowest.

5046
03:53:40,332 --> 03:53:43,332
In some instances that's what

5047
03:53:56,447 --> 03:53:58,383
happens in procurement, you

5048
03:53:58,383 --> 03:53:59,383
require more people so that's

5049
03:53:59,383 --> 03:54:00,586
different.

5050
03:54:00,586 --> 03:54:02,487
I understand the scheduling,

5051
03:54:02,487 --> 03:54:04,522
also if what we're saying is we

5052
03:54:04,522 --> 03:54:06,558
make this accommodation because

5053
03:54:06,558 --> 03:54:08,593
it difficult to get people in

5054
03:54:08,593 --> 03:54:09,394
place and together I understand

5055
03:54:09,394 --> 03:54:10,463
that.

5056
03:54:10,463 --> 03:54:12,398
Let me suggest to the

5057
03:54:12,398 --> 03:54:13,565
ministration since that time

5058
03:54:13,565 --> 03:54:14,599
these are the times you would

5059
03:54:14,599 --> 03:54:16,568
do a procurement.

5060
03:54:16,568 --> 03:54:17,602
You block these times off, they

5061
03:54:17,602 --> 03:54:19,571
worked here for us.

5062
03:54:19,571 --> 03:54:21,407
Show up, it's part of your job.

5063
03:54:21,407 --> 03:54:21,607
This is where you report to

5064
03:54:21,607 --> 03:54:23,509
them.

5065
03:54:23,509 --> 03:54:24,510
This is where you report, this

5066
03:54:24,510 --> 03:54:26,411
is what you do today.

5067
03:54:26,411 --> 03:54:27,546
That's not that complicated.

5068
03:54:27,546 --> 03:54:29,415
I did at miami gardens.

5069
03:54:29,415 --> 03:54:30,583
If you're going to be here

5070
03:54:30,583 --> 03:54:32,418
you're going to do this and

5071
03:54:32,418 --> 03:54:33,619
whatever your normal duty is

5072
03:54:33,619 --> 03:54:35,521
this is your normal duty today

5073
03:54:35,521 --> 03:54:37,623
but to rewrite the system based

5074
03:54:37,623 --> 03:54:39,524
on the calendar availability

5075
03:54:39,524 --> 03:54:40,727
it's almost something we should

5076
03:54:40,727 --> 03:54:44,327
be hesitant to admit in public.

5077
03:54:48,200 --> 03:54:50,700
>>chair: can't we amend, it's a

5078
03:54:50,700 --> 03:54:51,400
lot more than just their

5079
03:54:51,400 --> 03:54:53,400
calendar.

5080
03:54:56,376 --> 03:54:58,111
It's qualifications, and then

5081
03:54:58,111 --> 03:54:59,412
that adds time to procurement

5082
03:54:59,412 --> 03:55:01,348
so that's how we are able to

5083
03:55:01,348 --> 03:55:04,948
reduce, that MAY not be the 60%

5084
03:55:04,985 --> 03:55:06,919
reducing but that's 5%.

5085
03:55:06,919 --> 03:55:08,888
It all adds up, a lot of little

5086
03:55:08,888 --> 03:55:11,124
things we're changing at up to

5087
03:55:11,124 --> 03:55:13,124
the 60% time reduction.

5088
03:55:13,126 --> 03:55:16,290
So that's why we need to bring

5089
03:55:16,290 --> 03:55:17,630
it down to the three member

5090
03:55:17,630 --> 03:55:19,630
evaluation committee.

5091
03:55:22,670 --> 03:55:24,571
Small procurement and I agree,

5092
03:55:24,571 --> 03:55:25,839
they are big procurements but

5093
03:55:25,839 --> 03:55:26,907
smaller in the grand scheme of

5094
03:55:26,907 --> 03:55:28,907
all the contracts.

5095
03:55:32,460 --> 03:55:33,981
So I agree with both sides.

5096
03:55:33,981 --> 03:55:38,181
It's a question of can we maybe

5097
03:55:38,385 --> 03:55:40,210
drop it to commissioner

5098
03:55:40,210 --> 03:55:43,210
gilbert's point, drop it if

5099
03:55:44,392 --> 03:55:44,659
it's only that 33% that we

5100
03:55:44,659 --> 03:55:46,659
discussed.

5101
03:55:48,462 --> 03:55:50,432
>> we could do that.

5102
03:55:50,432 --> 03:55:51,633
>> instead of having them

5103
03:55:51,633 --> 03:55:55,233
explain, just drop it at least

5104
03:55:56,370 --> 03:55:57,972
if it goes over 33.

5105
03:55:57,972 --> 03:56:00,342
>> if your score is beyond the

5106
03:56:00,342 --> 03:56:02,742
33% deviation, yes that could

5107
03:56:09,617 --> 03:56:10,786
be a recommendation.

5108
03:56:10,786 --> 03:56:12,621
And that would be standard

5109
03:56:12,621 --> 03:56:13,756
practice across all

5110
03:56:13,756 --> 03:56:15,756
procurements I guess,

5111
03:56:18,493 --> 03:56:20,496
regardless of the dollar value.

5112
03:56:20,496 --> 03:56:22,498
>>commissioner gilbert: that is

5113
03:56:22,498 --> 03:56:23,699
substantially better and I want

5114
03:56:23,699 --> 03:56:25,601
us to remember we are looking

5115
03:56:25,601 --> 03:56:27,503
at categories here and some

5116
03:56:27,503 --> 03:56:28,737
things like what I've noticed

5117
03:56:28,737 --> 03:56:30,706
about one of our procurements

5118
03:56:30,706 --> 03:56:33,900
right now is there shouldn't be

5119
03:56:33,900 --> 03:56:34,143
that type of deviation in

5120
03:56:34,143 --> 03:56:36,110
certain categories so for

5121
03:56:36,110 --> 03:56:36,579
instance if you have the price

5122
03:56:36,579 --> 03:56:37,646
is a category.

5123
03:56:37,646 --> 03:56:40,646
The cost is a category.

5124
03:56:43,719 --> 03:56:45,621
So if you are the cheapest then

5125
03:56:45,621 --> 03:56:47,490
you get all the points, if you

5126
03:56:47,490 --> 03:56:48,824
are the next cheapest you get

5127
03:56:48,824 --> 03:56:51,824
less points but you shouldn't

5128
03:56:52,629 --> 03:56:53,863
have people getting the same

5129
03:56:53,863 --> 03:56:55,732
amount of points for instance

5130
03:56:55,732 --> 03:56:58,732
for cost because the other

5131
03:56:59,535 --> 03:57:00,771
stuff is also a category like

5132
03:57:00,771 --> 03:57:02,706
experience and quality, all

5133
03:57:02,706 --> 03:57:04,641
that stuff is also a category

5134
03:57:04,641 --> 03:57:06,543
but if you can factor all those

5135
03:57:06,543 --> 03:57:07,744
things into whether this costs

5136
03:57:07,744 --> 03:57:09,545
more because we think it's

5137
03:57:09,545 --> 03:57:11,548
better than the other

5138
03:57:11,548 --> 03:57:11,748
categories you're counting that

5139
03:57:11,748 --> 03:57:13,748
twice.

5140
03:57:15,685 --> 03:57:17,654
So the fact that there is that

5141
03:57:17,654 --> 03:57:19,990
type of deviation, I say that

5142
03:57:19,990 --> 03:57:23,590
to mean it's relative to where

5143
03:57:28,398 --> 03:57:30,334
the points deviated.

5144
03:57:30,334 --> 03:57:30,567
Because some things are just

5145
03:57:30,567 --> 03:57:32,369
numbers.

5146
03:57:32,369 --> 03:57:36,569
It's just it should be if you

5147
03:57:53,324 --> 03:57:55,326
charge $100 and think you are

5148
03:57:55,326 --> 03:57:56,527
confident in submittal and you

5149
03:57:56,527 --> 03:57:58,396
charge $100 and that's the

5150
03:57:58,396 --> 03:58:00,365
cheapest price and you get all

5151
03:58:00,365 --> 03:58:01,333
those points the next person

5152
03:58:01,333 --> 03:58:02,334
charges $105.

5153
03:58:02,334 --> 03:58:04,302
Those things can be

5154
03:58:04,302 --> 03:58:04,569
standardized, there should be

5155
03:58:04,569 --> 03:58:06,504
deviation.

5156
03:58:06,504 --> 03:58:06,671
Those are things we should look

5157
03:58:06,671 --> 03:58:08,473
at.

5158
03:58:08,473 --> 03:58:10,309
As for 33% how did you come up

5159
03:58:10,309 --> 03:58:11,510
with that number, I would be

5160
03:58:11,510 --> 03:58:12,444
substantially more comfortable

5161
03:58:12,444 --> 03:58:14,312
with 25%.

5162
03:58:14,312 --> 03:58:16,314
I'm thinking I break everything

5163
03:58:16,314 --> 03:58:17,448
into dollars because I don't

5164
03:58:17,448 --> 03:58:18,449
have a lot of money so 75,

5165
03:58:18,449 --> 03:58:20,319
that's 25, 50 $75.

5166
03:58:20,319 --> 03:58:21,453
I'm saying if something is on

5167
03:58:21,453 --> 03:58:23,322
dollar and someone else is

5168
03:58:23,322 --> 03:58:23,622
saying that it's 45, 55, 65

5169
03:58:23,622 --> 03:58:25,622
$0.70 under.

5170
03:58:27,826 --> 03:58:28,260
Those deviations are way out of

5171
03:58:28,260 --> 03:58:29,761
range.

5172
03:58:29,761 --> 03:58:30,929
And so I just want to be

5173
03:58:30,929 --> 03:58:32,832
mindful because I know what's

5174
03:58:32,832 --> 03:58:36,432
going to happen and GOD willing

5175
03:58:36,435 --> 03:58:36,669
I won't be here when it

5176
03:58:36,669 --> 03:58:38,570
happens.

5177
03:58:38,570 --> 03:58:41,707
But there's going to be a small

5178
03:58:41,707 --> 03:58:41,941
business that's harmed by this

5179
03:58:41,941 --> 03:58:43,876
process.

5180
03:58:43,876 --> 03:58:45,911
And they're going to come here

5181
03:58:45,911 --> 03:58:47,813
and complain about these bids

5182
03:58:47,813 --> 03:58:49,715
and we're going to feel very

5183
03:58:49,715 --> 03:58:50,950
sympathetic because it's going

5184
03:58:50,950 --> 03:58:52,852
to affect their business and

5185
03:58:52,852 --> 03:58:56,452
it's a decision we are making

5186
03:58:57,223 --> 03:58:58,391
right now.

5187
03:58:58,391 --> 03:59:00,293
This decision will live on

5188
03:59:00,293 --> 03:59:02,228
beyond this moment, it will be

5189
03:59:02,228 --> 03:59:04,364
something written in paper but

5190
03:59:04,364 --> 03:59:05,398
something written in somebody's

5191
03:59:05,398 --> 03:59:07,398
bank account.

5192
03:59:07,566 --> 03:59:09,435
Or their mortgage payment.

5193
03:59:09,435 --> 03:59:10,604
And it's going to exist in

5194
03:59:10,604 --> 03:59:14,204
different ways so I would be

5195
03:59:14,674 --> 03:59:16,609
more comfortable with 25%.

5196
03:59:16,609 --> 03:59:17,810
>>chair: I'm good with doing

5197
03:59:17,810 --> 03:59:19,746
that, for the three members you

5198
03:59:19,746 --> 03:59:23,346
keep it for the three unless

5199
03:59:24,785 --> 03:59:25,886
it's over, you're suggesting

5200
03:59:25,886 --> 03:59:27,886
25% is your reason.

5201
03:59:31,559 --> 03:59:32,893
so the committee claps to

5202
03:59:32,893 --> 03:59:35,893
clarify 20% over and below is

5203
03:59:47,374 --> 03:59:49,243
that the intention.

5204
03:59:49,243 --> 03:59:51,212
>> I have to check back, I

5205
03:59:51,212 --> 03:59:52,347
think it's low scores but

5206
03:59:52,347 --> 03:59:54,315
deviation could be offered

5207
03:59:54,315 --> 03:59:56,217
lower usually is on the lower

5208
03:59:56,217 --> 03:59:57,484
side but I have to check back.

5209
03:59:57,484 --> 03:59:58,486
>> if it's over 25% deviation

5210
03:59:58,486 --> 04:00:00,886
and is not counted.

5211
04:00:01,890 --> 04:00:02,991
Go ahead.

5212
04:00:02,991 --> 04:00:04,992
>> to clarify this was an

5213
04:00:04,992 --> 04:00:06,992
amendment to recommendation 16

5214
04:00:07,462 --> 04:00:09,930
so what I have down here is

5215
04:00:09,930 --> 04:00:11,132
keep eliminating dropping low

5216
04:00:11,132 --> 04:00:14,132
scores except if the lowest

5217
04:00:16,471 --> 04:00:18,871
score deviates 25% or more

5218
04:00:19,741 --> 04:00:19,975
average score for all committee

5219
04:00:19,975 --> 04:00:21,744
members.

5220
04:00:21,744 --> 04:00:23,744
That's the recommendation

5221
04:00:30,686 --> 04:00:31,921
currently over 65, then that we

5222
04:00:31,921 --> 04:00:33,789
are changing the recommendation

5223
04:00:33,789 --> 04:00:35,658
to keep and drop the lowest

5224
04:00:35,658 --> 04:00:36,625
score except the score deviates

5225
04:00:36,625 --> 04:00:38,625
25% or more.

5226
04:00:39,528 --> 04:00:40,963
>>chair: senator garcia.

5227
04:00:40,963 --> 04:00:43,963
>>senator garcia: thank you MR.

5228
04:00:44,433 --> 04:00:47,569
Chair. And by the way I

5229
04:00:47,569 --> 04:00:47,769
appreciate what you're doing

5230
04:00:47,769 --> 04:00:49,638
here.

5231
04:00:49,638 --> 04:00:51,541
I'm just throwing that out to

5232
04:00:51,541 --> 04:00:53,476
thank you for bringing up some

5233
04:00:53,476 --> 04:00:57,760
of those and resolving some of

5234
04:00:59,482 --> 04:01:00,750
those issues that are

5235
04:01:00,750 --> 04:01:02,519
outstanding that will go a long

5236
04:01:02,519 --> 04:01:03,653
way to help our small

5237
04:01:03,653 --> 04:01:05,555
businesses, I have one more

5238
04:01:05,555 --> 04:01:06,823
question if I MAY and it has to

5239
04:01:06,823 --> 04:01:09,823
do with the startup businesses.

5240
04:01:14,498 --> 04:01:18,980
E have moved, we went from,

5241
04:01:20,304 --> 04:01:22,306
we should not have a

5242
04:01:22,306 --> 04:01:23,507
requirement on timing staff

5243
04:01:23,507 --> 04:01:25,907
members for startup businesses.

5244
04:01:27,100 --> 04:01:29,110
When you have started

5245
04:01:29,110 --> 04:01:31,140
businesses especially since we

5246
04:01:31,140 --> 04:01:32,149
talked about engineering and

5247
04:01:32,149 --> 04:01:34,149
architecture firms, that's

5248
04:01:34,318 --> 04:01:35,486
usually one employee, is there

5249
04:01:35,486 --> 04:01:37,387
a rationale for that, can we

5250
04:01:37,387 --> 04:01:39,222
look into that as well because

5251
04:01:39,222 --> 04:01:41,926
when we are the neck right now

5252
04:01:41,926 --> 04:01:43,828
of startups.

5253
04:01:43,828 --> 04:01:46,228
Inviting private investors to

5254
04:01:46,263 --> 04:01:49,863
come up here and usually most

5255
04:01:52,704 --> 04:01:56,304
of these startups are 1 or two

5256
04:01:57,842 --> 04:01:58,109
employees, help me with that

5257
04:01:58,109 --> 04:01:59,978
rationale.

5258
04:01:59,978 --> 04:02:01,880
>> through the chair, senator

5259
04:02:01,880 --> 04:02:04,880
we did not change any

5260
04:02:05,830 --> 04:02:06,284
requirements to be a small

5261
04:02:06,284 --> 04:02:08,850
business from one employee or

5262
04:02:08,850 --> 04:02:09,620
two employees are three

5263
04:02:09,620 --> 04:02:09,921
employees, there is no

5264
04:02:09,921 --> 04:02:11,723
requirement.

5265
04:02:11,723 --> 04:02:15,323
Like you have to have three

5266
04:02:29,774 --> 04:02:30,420
employees to certify a small

5267
04:02:30,420 --> 04:02:31,977
business.

5268
04:02:31,977 --> 04:02:34,377
The three employee requirement

5269
04:02:34,780 --> 04:02:35,981
has been the long-standing

5270
04:02:35,981 --> 04:02:37,849
policy to get local preference.

5271
04:02:37,849 --> 04:02:39,885
And if you want to qualify for

5272
04:02:39,885 --> 04:02:41,787
local preference you have to

5273
04:02:41,787 --> 04:02:42,988
have three employees, that was

5274
04:02:42,988 --> 04:02:44,924
the policy adopted eight or 10

5275
04:02:44,924 --> 04:02:46,825
years ago by the board but if

5276
04:02:46,825 --> 04:02:47,993
you're a small business you

5277
04:02:47,993 --> 04:02:50,797
don't have to do that either.

5278
04:02:50,797 --> 04:02:51,897
You need three employees to be

5279
04:02:51,897 --> 04:02:53,800
local preference so that

5280
04:02:53,800 --> 04:02:55,801
requirement has not changed.

5281
04:02:55,801 --> 04:02:56,935
>>chair: I am becoming more

5282
04:02:56,935 --> 04:02:58,837
confused right now so for,

5283
04:02:58,837 --> 04:02:59,137
let's talk about local

5284
04:02:59,137 --> 04:03:00,907
preference.

5285
04:03:00,907 --> 04:03:01,908
The definition of the small

5286
04:03:01,908 --> 04:03:03,908
business is what?

5287
04:03:03,976 --> 04:03:06,976
>> there is a dollar threshold

5288
04:03:13,190 --> 04:03:15,210
for your business income, gross

5289
04:03:15,210 --> 04:03:15,288
income and you don't need

5290
04:03:15,288 --> 04:03:17,230
employees.

5291
04:03:17,230 --> 04:03:19,250
There is a confusion in

5292
04:03:19,250 --> 04:03:20,327
industry, their thinking we are

5293
04:03:20,327 --> 04:03:21,294
changing the requirement to be

5294
04:03:21,294 --> 04:03:23,230
a small business.

5295
04:03:23,230 --> 04:03:25,980
We did not so the requirement

5296
04:03:25,980 --> 04:03:27,330
stays as is, you can have one

5297
04:03:27,330 --> 04:03:28,340
employee or your owner

5298
04:03:28,340 --> 04:03:29,235
yourself.

5299
04:03:29,235 --> 04:03:31,171
>>senator garcia: that's for

5300
04:03:31,171 --> 04:03:33,400
the small business and now for

5301
04:03:33,400 --> 04:03:34,241
local preference, local

5302
04:03:34,241 --> 04:03:36,209
preference what is it?

5303
04:03:36,209 --> 04:03:37,377
Claps to qualify for local

5304
04:03:37,377 --> 04:03:39,279
preference you have to have a

5305
04:03:39,279 --> 04:03:41,215
business tax receipt issued by

5306
04:03:41,215 --> 04:03:42,450
miami-dade counties tax

5307
04:03:42,450 --> 04:03:44,385
collector's office and you have

5308
04:03:44,385 --> 04:03:46,453
to have three employees.

5309
04:03:46,453 --> 04:03:48,221
If you are a small business

5310
04:03:48,221 --> 04:03:49,222
already you don't need that

5311
04:03:49,222 --> 04:03:50,391
three employees.

5312
04:03:50,391 --> 04:03:52,293
>>senator garcia: you can

5313
04:03:52,293 --> 04:03:52,493
qualify as a small business and

5314
04:03:52,493 --> 04:03:54,228
local.

5315
04:03:54,228 --> 04:03:56,230
That's fair, I think that

5316
04:03:56,230 --> 04:03:57,231
addresses my concerns and I'm

5317
04:03:57,231 --> 04:03:57,431
fairly comfortable.

5318
04:03:57,431 --> 04:03:59,233
Hank you

5319
04:03:59,233 --> 04:04:02,233
for what you are doing.

5320
04:04:03,671 --> 04:04:03,805
>>chair: commissioner steinberg

5321
04:04:03,805 --> 04:04:05,673
.

5322
04:04:05,673 --> 04:04:07,673
>>commissioner steinberg:

5323
04:04:07,675 --> 04:04:09,677
clarification on the local

5324
04:04:09,677 --> 04:04:10,879
preference, generally speaking

5325
04:04:10,879 --> 04:04:13,648
we have a core eligibility

5326
04:04:13,648 --> 04:04:16,517
issue and we know one of them

5327
04:04:16,517 --> 04:04:19,517
is supporting local jobs, so

5328
04:04:22,560 --> 04:04:23,225
what are we doing to advance

5329
04:04:23,225 --> 04:04:25,590
belief because we have two

5330
04:04:25,590 --> 04:04:26,361
different versions of this

5331
04:04:26,361 --> 04:04:29,961
relief, can you please give me

5332
04:04:37,673 --> 04:04:39,641
some clarification.

5333
04:04:39,641 --> 04:04:40,777
Claps to qualify for local

5334
04:04:40,777 --> 04:04:42,678
preference or enhance

5335
04:04:42,678 --> 04:04:45,780
encouraging business with the

5336
04:04:47,850 --> 04:04:49,117
local company?

5337
04:04:49,117 --> 04:04:51,530
Commissioner, I think in 2016,

5338
04:04:51,530 --> 04:04:52,922
20 17th this board or the prior

5339
04:04:52,922 --> 04:04:54,957
board adopted changes to the

5340
04:04:54,957 --> 04:04:56,858
local preference program which

5341
04:04:56,858 --> 04:04:58,260
changed the requirement to have

5342
04:04:58,260 --> 04:04:59,862
one employee to a three

5343
04:04:59,862 --> 04:05:01,831
employees you have to have a

5344
04:05:01,831 --> 04:05:03,980
local business tax receipt and

5345
04:05:03,980 --> 04:05:05,100
contribute to the local economy

5346
04:05:05,100 --> 04:05:07,360
in miami-dade by either renting

5347
04:05:07,360 --> 04:05:10,636
or by renting office space so

5348
04:05:14,344 --> 04:05:15,545
you have to have local

5349
04:05:15,545 --> 04:05:17,346
preference but in addition to

5350
04:05:17,346 --> 04:05:19,346
that there's locally

5351
04:05:19,348 --> 04:05:20,617
headquartered programs where if

5352
04:05:20,617 --> 04:05:22,552
you are nerve center business

5353
04:05:22,552 --> 04:05:24,354
is in miami-dade county then

5354
04:05:24,354 --> 04:05:25,555
you also get additional

5355
04:05:25,555 --> 04:05:27,423
preference whether regardless

5356
04:05:27,423 --> 04:05:29,359
of the type of procurement and

5357
04:05:29,359 --> 04:05:31,359
in certain architecture

5358
04:05:31,362 --> 04:05:32,562
engineering procurements there

5359
04:05:32,562 --> 04:05:34,598
are more, if you subcontract

5360
04:05:34,598 --> 04:05:36,533
with a locally headquartered

5361
04:05:36,533 --> 04:05:38,335
firm you are eligible for more

5362
04:05:38,335 --> 04:05:39,436
points as a scoring criteria

5363
04:05:39,436 --> 04:05:40,604
and in addition we have

5364
04:05:40,604 --> 04:05:44,204
invested under the mayor a lot

5365
04:05:46,710 --> 04:05:48,612
of resources in creating

5366
04:05:48,612 --> 04:05:49,746
training programs through our

5367
04:05:49,746 --> 04:05:51,682
vendor academy we launched

5368
04:05:51,682 --> 04:05:53,551
under the mayor in 2023 to give

5369
04:05:53,551 --> 04:05:54,718
local companies and small

5370
04:05:54,718 --> 04:05:56,754
companies resources they need

5371
04:05:56,754 --> 04:05:58,555
to do business with miami-dade

5372
04:05:58,555 --> 04:05:59,690
county other it's we do

5373
04:05:59,690 --> 04:06:01,690
registration boot camps,

5374
04:06:07,731 --> 04:06:09,566
walking in through different

5375
04:06:09,566 --> 04:06:10,769
classes, free classes.

5376
04:06:10,769 --> 04:06:12,570
English, spanish and creole,

5377
04:06:12,570 --> 04:06:13,738
we've created a youtube

5378
04:06:13,738 --> 04:06:15,639
training program so they can

5379
04:06:15,639 --> 04:06:17,575
watch their own time and we

5380
04:06:17,575 --> 04:06:17,777
have opened offices in the

5381
04:06:17,777 --> 04:06:19,577
south.

5382
04:06:19,577 --> 04:06:21,646
We go there and also cater to

5383
04:06:21,646 --> 04:06:22,747
the businesses himself so there

5384
04:06:22,747 --> 04:06:24,582
are efforts we are coming up

5385
04:06:24,582 --> 04:06:25,817
with and recently we also

5386
04:06:25,817 --> 04:06:27,585
launched the comprehensive

5387
04:06:27,585 --> 04:06:28,753
small and local business

5388
04:06:28,753 --> 04:06:30,689
development program which there

5389
04:06:30,689 --> 04:06:32,658
are departments in the county

5390
04:06:32,658 --> 04:06:34,559
have benefits or the they

5391
04:06:34,559 --> 04:06:35,560
offered to small local

5392
04:06:35,560 --> 04:06:36,761
companies so we are

5393
04:06:36,761 --> 04:06:38,563
incorporating that there is a

5394
04:06:38,563 --> 04:06:40,320
single resource or single

5395
04:06:40,320 --> 04:06:43,320
document for any small and

5396
04:06:43,802 --> 04:06:45,737
local company to see what kind

5397
04:06:45,737 --> 04:06:47,739
of benefits they could get from

5398
04:06:47,739 --> 04:06:49,540
the county in addition to doing

5399
04:06:49,540 --> 04:06:51,410
business with the county.

5400
04:06:51,410 --> 04:06:54,410
>>chair: vice chair, did you

5401
04:07:07,459 --> 04:07:09,459
have anything?

5402
04:07:09,461 --> 04:07:10,697
>>vice chair mcghee: let me say

5403
04:07:10,697 --> 04:07:11,464
to both of you thank you so

5404
04:07:11,464 --> 04:07:12,732
much.

5405
04:07:12,732 --> 04:07:14,567
It's obvious the work that went

5406
04:07:14,567 --> 04:07:16,469
into this produced a great

5407
04:07:16,469 --> 04:07:18,471
product where we can hang our

5408
04:07:18,471 --> 04:07:20,474
hats on it and appreciate the

5409
04:07:20,474 --> 04:07:22,442
system even more and to the

5410
04:07:22,442 --> 04:07:23,610
administration thank you for

5411
04:07:23,610 --> 04:07:25,544
making sure this is something

5412
04:07:25,544 --> 04:07:26,779
that again would right the

5413
04:07:26,779 --> 04:07:28,681
ship, get us where we need to

5414
04:07:28,681 --> 04:07:30,484
be as relates to procurement

5415
04:07:30,484 --> 04:07:31,685
and thank you for your

5416
04:07:31,685 --> 04:07:31,918
leadership in pushing us

5417
04:07:31,918 --> 04:07:33,487
forward.

5418
04:07:33,487 --> 04:07:34,688
Have a few

5419
04:07:34,688 --> 04:07:36,723
concerns, I'd like to address

5420
04:07:36,723 --> 04:07:38,624
but address it technically,

5421
04:07:38,624 --> 04:07:40,628
each line by line and I would

5422
04:07:40,628 --> 04:07:42,496
issue some statements and asked

5423
04:07:42,496 --> 04:07:42,763
for clarity as I make my

5424
04:07:42,763 --> 04:07:44,698
position.

5425
04:07:44,698 --> 04:07:46,566
The first thing that strikes me

5426
04:07:46,566 --> 04:07:47,767
the most is the fact that you

5427
04:07:47,767 --> 04:07:49,502
all have been working on this

5428
04:07:49,502 --> 04:07:50,871
for over a year.

5429
04:07:50,871 --> 04:07:52,740
Meeting twice a month, giving

5430
04:07:52,740 --> 04:07:54,678
up your time, your quality time

5431
04:07:54,678 --> 04:07:55,509
with your family and just wing

5432
04:07:55,509 --> 04:07:56,710
time in.

5433
04:07:56,710 --> 04:07:58,612
What bothers me the most though

5434
04:07:58,612 --> 04:08:00,815
is the fact that there were

5435
04:08:00,815 --> 04:08:01,150
substitutes filed on these

5436
04:08:01,150 --> 04:08:03,150
items.

5437
04:08:04,351 --> 04:08:07,351
At the very last minute.

5438
04:08:11,359 --> 04:08:12,527
And when you look at the

5439
04:08:12,527 --> 04:08:14,495
substitutes as they work file

5440
04:08:14,495 --> 04:08:18,695
as it pertains to each one of

5441
04:08:19,660 --> 04:08:20,101
the items, these are no small

5442
04:08:20,101 --> 04:08:22,700
items to overlook.

5443
04:08:22,700 --> 04:08:23,138
It takes time to flesh it out

5444
04:08:23,138 --> 04:08:24,205
to see how is it going to

5445
04:08:24,205 --> 04:08:26,605
affect this or that.

5446
04:08:26,941 --> 04:08:28,676
I would have preferably

5447
04:08:28,676 --> 04:08:30,579
requested, and I'm I haven't

5448
04:08:30,579 --> 04:08:33,648
said yet but I think I will, I

5449
04:08:33,648 --> 04:08:34,849
would prefer to defer these

5450
04:08:34,849 --> 04:08:38,152
items to give me an opportunity

5451
04:08:38,152 --> 04:08:39,386
to really meet with

5452
04:08:39,386 --> 04:08:42,986
stakeholders to see if in fact

5453
04:08:43,458 --> 04:08:44,660
this is what they had bargained

5454
04:08:44,660 --> 04:08:45,527
for or they are willing to

5455
04:08:45,527 --> 04:08:47,527
bargain for.

5456
04:08:49,197 --> 04:08:50,833
What I heard from those podiums

5457
04:08:50,833 --> 04:08:54,433
earlier, I didn't hear them say

5458
04:08:57,539 --> 04:08:58,540
they had a comfort level with

5459
04:08:58,540 --> 04:09:00,443
the substitutes.

5460
04:09:00,443 --> 04:09:04,430
What I heard was that they

5461
04:09:04,280 --> 04:09:05,481
needed more time to review the

5462
04:09:05,481 --> 04:09:07,449
substitute so they could make

5463
04:09:07,449 --> 04:09:10,449
an informed decision about the

5464
04:09:21,631 --> 04:09:22,632
proposed changes that they just

5465
04:09:22,632 --> 04:09:23,733
received midnight.

5466
04:09:23,733 --> 04:09:25,733
Including your self.

5467
04:09:25,768 --> 04:09:27,770
I was prepared to vote one way

5468
04:09:27,770 --> 04:09:29,705
based on the original waivers

5469
04:09:29,705 --> 04:09:29,972
because I had it all lined up,

5470
04:09:29,972 --> 04:09:31,775
we had it.

5471
04:09:31,775 --> 04:09:33,943
But it just strikes me as odd

5472
04:09:33,943 --> 04:09:35,945
to receive these substitutes,

5473
04:09:35,945 --> 04:09:37,213
midnight on something that is

5474
04:09:37,213 --> 04:09:39,949
so huge that's going to change

5475
04:09:39,949 --> 04:09:41,151
the trajectory of business and

5476
04:09:41,151 --> 04:09:42,953
procurement in miami-dade

5477
04:09:42,953 --> 04:09:45,155
county, it strikes me and

5478
04:09:45,155 --> 04:09:47,570
forces me to ask the question

5479
04:09:47,570 --> 04:09:48,291
why not simply the furthest to

5480
04:09:48,291 --> 04:09:50,194
the next meeting so we can have

5481
04:09:50,194 --> 04:09:52,280
time to flesh out the issues we

5482
04:09:52,280 --> 04:09:53,230
heard from that podium.

5483
04:09:53,230 --> 04:09:55,199
And I'm wondering and asking

5484
04:09:55,199 --> 04:09:58,199
this question MISS Mendez, is

5485
04:10:13,851 --> 04:10:15,820
there a reason why we should

5486
04:10:15,820 --> 04:10:17,822
actually move forward right now

5487
04:10:17,822 --> 04:10:19,890
as opposed to waiting till the

5488
04:10:19,890 --> 04:10:20,959
next meeting to give those of

5489
04:10:20,959 --> 04:10:22,827
us who are entrenched and

5490
04:10:22,827 --> 04:10:24,950
really supportive of small

5491
04:10:24,950 --> 04:10:25,897
businesses, is there a reason

5492
04:10:25,897 --> 04:10:27,640
why we can't wait until the

5493
04:10:27,640 --> 04:10:29,000
next meeting so we can flesh

5494
04:10:29,000 --> 04:10:30,835
out these things and meet with

5495
04:10:30,835 --> 04:10:32,700
the stakeholders, will

5496
04:10:32,700 --> 04:10:34,500
something got lost in the fray,

5497
04:10:34,500 --> 04:10:35,840
will there be a cost that we

5498
04:10:35,840 --> 04:10:37,800
must bear if we were to just

5499
04:10:37,800 --> 04:10:38,909
simply push this to the next

5500
04:10:38,909 --> 04:10:39,844
meeting, just asking that one

5501
04:10:39,844 --> 04:10:41,460
question.

5502
04:10:41,460 --> 04:10:41,246
>>chair: I think that's for

5503
04:10:41,246 --> 04:10:43,246
diana.

5504
04:10:43,849 --> 04:10:45,160
>vice chair mcghee: whoever

5505
04:10:45,160 --> 04:10:46,851
wants to answer the question

5506
04:10:46,851 --> 04:10:47,852
but if you want to that would

5507
04:10:47,852 --> 04:10:49,530
be great.

5508
04:10:49,530 --> 04:10:50,989
>>chair: you can't wait until

5509
04:10:50,989 --> 04:10:52,925
next meeting because this is

5510
04:10:52,925 --> 04:10:54,393
real people's money we are

5511
04:10:54,393 --> 04:10:56,270
talking about, taxpayers money

5512
04:10:56,270 --> 04:10:57,963
we are talking about and then

5513
04:10:57,963 --> 04:10:59,864
the only thing that was removed

5514
04:10:59,864 --> 04:11:01,660
is those substitutes is a

5515
04:11:01,660 --> 04:11:02,902
removal of anything pertaining

5516
04:11:02,902 --> 04:11:04,103
to small business, nothing was

5517
04:11:04,103 --> 04:11:06,380
changed so the same item about

5518
04:11:06,380 --> 04:11:07,973
a week ago you have before you

5519
04:11:07,973 --> 04:11:09,410
today was just removed, nothing

5520
04:11:09,410 --> 04:11:10,977
was changed.

5521
04:11:10,977 --> 04:11:12,845
There were no games so you've

5522
04:11:12,845 --> 04:11:14,113
embedded it's true then you

5523
04:11:14,113 --> 04:11:15,948
have it all, the numbers called

5524
04:11:15,948 --> 04:11:18,817
out were just extracted from

5525
04:11:18,817 --> 04:11:19,985
the items so here we have it,

5526
04:11:19,985 --> 04:11:21,855
senator garcia often brings

5527
04:11:21,855 --> 04:11:23,756
that point up in the other

5528
04:11:23,756 --> 04:11:24,924
items in it makes sense, things

5529
04:11:24,924 --> 04:11:26,825
are dramatically changed.

5530
04:11:26,825 --> 04:11:28,394
It was just removed from the

5531
04:11:28,394 --> 04:11:29,595
item to further elaborate on

5532
04:11:29,595 --> 04:11:32,595
discussions on what they spoke

5533
04:11:34,134 --> 04:11:36,200
about at the podium today but I

5534
04:11:36,200 --> 04:11:36,336
see no reason it cannot wait

5535
04:11:36,336 --> 04:11:38,336
another month.

5536
04:11:38,438 --> 04:11:40,440
The reason that it skipped

5537
04:11:40,440 --> 04:11:42,442
committee is because we are

5538
04:11:42,442 --> 04:11:43,509
having this discussion amongst

5539
04:11:43,509 --> 04:11:45,412
the entire board.

5540
04:11:45,412 --> 04:11:49,516
And I want the entire board to

5541
04:11:49,516 --> 04:11:50,651
discuss it and there were in

5542
04:11:50,651 --> 04:11:53,510
excess of 20 to 25 meetings

5543
04:11:57,900 --> 04:11:58,225
held at any time, they were

5544
04:11:58,225 --> 04:12:00,127
sunshine meetings at any

5545
04:12:00,127 --> 04:12:01,295
commissioner could have taken

5546
04:12:01,295 --> 04:12:03,163
time if they had an interest in

5547
04:12:03,163 --> 04:12:06,763
showing up and spoken to the

5548
04:12:12,473 --> 04:12:14,542
committee at that time.

5549
04:12:14,542 --> 04:12:16,477
>>vice chair mcghee: appreciate

5550
04:12:16,477 --> 04:12:18,345
my position not to say there

5551
04:12:18,345 --> 04:12:19,613
was funny business going on

5552
04:12:19,613 --> 04:12:21,482
behind the scenes or someone at

5553
04:12:21,482 --> 04:12:24,482
a position that would benefit

5554
04:12:25,887 --> 04:12:27,887
another person.

5555
04:12:27,955 --> 04:12:29,890
My position has always been the

5556
04:12:29,890 --> 04:12:31,760
same and it will be the same,

5557
04:12:31,760 --> 04:12:33,270
it's really about transparency

5558
04:12:33,270 --> 04:12:34,996
at this point because at the

5559
04:12:34,996 --> 04:12:36,864
end of the day we prepared, we

5560
04:12:36,864 --> 04:12:37,999
were briefed but at the last

5561
04:12:37,999 --> 04:12:39,767
minute we feel as if things

5562
04:12:39,767 --> 04:12:40,902
were injected into a

5563
04:12:40,902 --> 04:12:42,771
conversation and it forced

5564
04:12:42,771 --> 04:12:43,871
those to come to the podium

5565
04:12:43,871 --> 04:12:45,400
without adequately being

5566
04:12:45,400 --> 04:12:46,975
prepared with the new changes

5567
04:12:46,975 --> 04:12:48,909
so you're asking not you but we

5568
04:12:48,909 --> 04:12:50,779
are asking individuals who MAY

5569
04:12:50,779 --> 04:12:51,947
or MAY not be affected to

5570
04:12:51,947 --> 04:12:54,947
on-the-fly look at this with

5571
04:12:56,785 --> 04:12:58,653
the lens of you know, whether

5572
04:12:58,653 --> 04:12:59,821
it's the corridor work or

5573
04:12:59,821 --> 04:13:01,724
whether it hurts the business

5574
04:13:01,724 --> 04:13:05,227
or whether or not it moves the

5575
04:13:05,227 --> 04:13:06,428
agenda forward away it is, I'm

5576
04:13:06,428 --> 04:13:08,397
simply asking the question if

5577
04:13:08,397 --> 04:13:11,997
we've already waited a year and

5578
04:13:12,334 --> 04:13:14,336
to wait an additional 20 days,

5579
04:13:14,336 --> 04:13:16,238
would it really cost that much

5580
04:13:16,238 --> 04:13:19,838
money to give comfort to the

5581
04:13:44,834 --> 04:13:46,703
people who came to the podium

5582
04:13:46,703 --> 04:13:48,705
who raised the concerns that

5583
04:13:48,705 --> 04:13:49,906
there MAY be something there

5584
04:13:49,906 --> 04:13:51,808
that they need to understand

5585
04:13:51,808 --> 04:13:52,750
and let's be clear, I am an

5586
04:13:52,750 --> 04:13:52,809
attorney.

5587
04:13:52,809 --> 04:13:54,711
By trade.

5588
04:13:54,711 --> 04:13:55,946
That's what I do, I read

5589
04:13:55,946 --> 04:13:57,914
documents quickly, I get to the

5590
04:13:57,914 --> 04:13:59,716
point, identify the issues, do

5591
04:13:59,716 --> 04:14:00,918
the analysis and do the

5592
04:14:00,918 --> 04:14:02,786
conclusion but we are talking

5593
04:14:02,786 --> 04:14:03,987
about small business for who

5594
04:14:03,987 --> 04:14:05,923
are as equally intelligent as

5595
04:14:05,923 --> 04:14:07,891
we are but they're asking for

5596
04:14:07,891 --> 04:14:09,826
more time so they can make sure

5597
04:14:09,826 --> 04:14:11,829
what they're reading is what

5598
04:14:11,829 --> 04:14:12,963
they're reading because if they

5599
04:14:12,963 --> 04:14:14,832
have an issue with it and we

5600
04:14:14,832 --> 04:14:16,700
work for them we are simply

5601
04:14:16,700 --> 04:14:17,868
saying give them more time to

5602
04:14:17,868 --> 04:14:21,710
read it, just defer till the

5603
04:14:21,710 --> 04:14:21,872
next meeting and if that's not

5604
04:14:21,872 --> 04:14:23,808
something the board wishes to

5605
04:14:23,808 --> 04:14:25,710
do I'm okay but I want to make

5606
04:14:25,710 --> 04:14:27,711
sure I put this on the record

5607
04:14:27,711 --> 04:14:29,246
and I will be voting no on all

5608
04:14:29,246 --> 04:14:30,915
these items, the ones that have

5609
04:14:30,915 --> 04:14:32,851
had the substitute applied to

5610
04:14:32,851 --> 04:14:34,719
it at the very last minute

5611
04:14:34,719 --> 04:14:35,920
because I do not believe that

5612
04:14:35,920 --> 04:14:37,722
the good faith I can hang my

5613
04:14:37,722 --> 04:14:39,724
vote on something that very

5614
04:14:39,724 --> 04:14:41,590
well MAY screw over the small

5615
04:14:41,590 --> 04:14:42,694
businesses down the road

5616
04:14:42,694 --> 04:14:43,895
because this has not been

5617
04:14:43,895 --> 04:14:45,830
properly invented and I do

5618
04:14:45,830 --> 04:14:47,865
believe there is a world where

5619
04:14:47,865 --> 04:14:50,350
small businesses are going to

5620
04:14:50,350 --> 04:14:50,969
be screwed because we rushed

5621
04:14:50,969 --> 04:14:52,837
this at the last minute when in

5622
04:14:52,837 --> 04:14:54,706
fact we could have easily

5623
04:14:54,706 --> 04:14:55,941
postponed it for one month to

5624
04:14:55,941 --> 04:14:57,875
give everybody a comfort level

5625
04:14:57,875 --> 04:14:59,711
so they can meet with folks and

5626
04:14:59,711 --> 04:14:59,878
get their issues out of the

5627
04:14:59,878 --> 04:15:00,980
way.

5628
04:15:00,980 --> 04:15:02,815
So those are my positions on

5629
04:15:02,815 --> 04:15:04,916
the record MR. CHAIRMAN so is

5630
04:15:04,916 --> 04:15:06,818
nothing against you, nothing to

5631
04:15:06,818 --> 04:15:08,720
suggest something funny went

5632
04:15:08,720 --> 04:15:09,954
behind the scenes, it's simply

5633
04:15:09,954 --> 04:15:11,724
saying you don't, we don't drop

5634
04:15:11,724 --> 04:15:12,958
this amount of change at

5635
04:15:12,958 --> 04:15:14,893
midnight on and tell us it's

5636
04:15:14,893 --> 04:15:16,829
okay, these are the things we

5637
04:15:16,829 --> 04:15:18,697
want to remove without knowing

5638
04:15:18,697 --> 04:15:20,700
whether or not it's going to

5639
04:15:20,700 --> 04:15:21,767
affect monetarily those small

5640
04:15:21,767 --> 04:15:23,703
businesses who are the

5641
04:15:23,703 --> 04:15:25,704
backbones of our community so

5642
04:15:25,704 --> 04:15:26,839
those are my positions for the

5643
04:15:26,839 --> 04:15:28,707
record so thank you to the

5644
04:15:28,707 --> 04:15:29,942
ladies and the administration

5645
04:15:29,942 --> 04:15:31,877
and to you MR. CHAIRMAN, you

5646
04:15:31,877 --> 04:15:33,846
did a great job and that's a

5647
04:15:33,846 --> 04:15:35,140
lot of work that you all did on

5648
04:15:35,140 --> 04:15:36,715
this project and again I take

5649
04:15:36,715 --> 04:15:37,716
my hat off to you.

5650
04:15:37,716 --> 04:15:38,951
>> commissioner.

5651
04:15:38,951 --> 04:15:40,787
>> thank you MR. Chair, I want

5652
04:15:40,787 --> 04:15:41,888
to be brief in my remarks and

5653
04:15:41,888 --> 04:15:44,288
thanking you for your

5654
04:15:48,994 --> 04:15:50,230
leadership on this.

5655
04:15:50,230 --> 04:15:52,999
I was running my first campaign

5656
04:15:52,999 --> 04:15:54,167
and I think the business

5657
04:15:54,167 --> 04:15:55,168
communities loudest complaint

5658
04:15:55,168 --> 04:15:57,168
was procurement.

5659
04:15:57,971 --> 04:16:01,571
We need to get procurement in

5660
04:16:09,582 --> 04:16:11,384
order in miami dade county and

5661
04:16:11,384 --> 04:16:13,352
when the ambassador and my

5662
04:16:13,352 --> 04:16:14,553
friend forever commissioner

5663
04:16:14,553 --> 04:16:16,455
cabrera was here we took a stab

5664
04:16:16,455 --> 04:16:18,357
at it and this is an issue

5665
04:16:18,357 --> 04:16:19,592
we've dealt with for a very

5666
04:16:19,592 --> 04:16:21,460
long time and I'm very grateful

5667
04:16:21,460 --> 04:16:23,362
to you MR. Chair and your

5668
04:16:23,362 --> 04:16:25,762
leadership in putting together

5669
04:16:25,797 --> 04:16:27,365
such a comprehensive approach.

5670
04:16:27,365 --> 04:16:28,567
I'm grateful to our

5671
04:16:28,567 --> 04:16:30,435
administration, if you've not

5672
04:16:30,435 --> 04:16:32,370
seen namita binder of the

5673
04:16:32,370 --> 04:16:33,638
procurement ordinances that we

5674
04:16:33,638 --> 04:16:35,573
have passed as a board that she

5675
04:16:35,573 --> 04:16:37,575
and her team are required to

5676
04:16:37,575 --> 04:16:39,476
follow then every procurement

5677
04:16:39,476 --> 04:16:41,345
it would blow you away.

5678
04:16:41,345 --> 04:16:42,446
The binder is about this being

5679
04:16:42,446 --> 04:16:44,348
and I know the task force

5680
04:16:44,348 --> 04:16:45,549
tackle that and hopefully it

5681
04:16:45,549 --> 04:16:47,350
will substantially reduce that

5682
04:16:47,350 --> 04:16:49,352
binder making things more

5683
04:16:49,352 --> 04:16:50,454
streamlined and efficient and

5684
04:16:50,454 --> 04:16:52,355
hopefully finding more

5685
04:16:52,355 --> 04:16:53,589
businesses to do business with

5686
04:16:53,589 --> 04:16:55,492
miami-dade county and I want to

5687
04:16:55,492 --> 04:16:57,427
thank the task force members.

5688
04:16:57,427 --> 04:16:58,594
Meeting twice a month for 12

5689
04:16:58,594 --> 04:17:00,396
months is not a small ask.

5690
04:17:00,396 --> 04:17:02,365
I know a number of board

5691
04:17:02,365 --> 04:17:03,966
members are parents, have young

5692
04:17:03,966 --> 04:17:05,201
children in school, some lives

5693
04:17:05,201 --> 04:17:07,970
out of the county so you're not

5694
04:17:07,970 --> 04:17:09,171
doing this for compensation,

5695
04:17:09,171 --> 04:17:11,106
you're doing this because you

5696
04:17:11,106 --> 04:17:13,142
care and I'm grateful for you

5697
04:17:13,142 --> 04:17:14,976
investing that much time to

5698
04:17:14,976 --> 04:17:16,144
sit, govern, chair meetings and

5699
04:17:16,144 --> 04:17:17,979
volunteer your time to get to

5700
04:17:17,979 --> 04:17:19,981
the point where we are today.

5701
04:17:19,981 --> 04:17:22,981
t is greatly appreciated so

5702
04:17:25,552 --> 04:17:27,387
thank you for that and

5703
04:17:27,387 --> 04:17:29,389
regarding the small business

5704
04:17:29,389 --> 04:17:30,524
concerns I'm grateful for the

5705
04:17:30,524 --> 04:17:32,359
efforts made to remove

5706
04:17:32,359 --> 04:17:33,393
provisions our community said

5707
04:17:33,393 --> 04:17:34,661
where a concern.

5708
04:17:34,661 --> 04:17:38,861
That's the fair thing to do and

5709
04:17:41,134 --> 04:17:43,200
if there is an amended item I

5710
04:17:43,200 --> 04:17:44,170
look forward to that but this

5711
04:17:44,170 --> 04:17:46,500
needs to pass today so we can

5712
04:17:46,500 --> 04:17:47,206
get the ball rolling.

5713
04:17:47,206 --> 04:17:49,107
Appreciate the savings of

5714
04:17:49,107 --> 04:17:52,107
dollars are community will pass

5715
04:17:56,748 --> 04:17:58,750
on to our residents and

5716
04:17:58,750 --> 04:17:59,984
appreciate the reduction in

5717
04:17:59,984 --> 04:18:02,200
procurement time, 60% is not a

5718
04:18:02,200 --> 04:18:03,922
small number so congratulations

5719
04:18:03,922 --> 04:18:05,824
to all of you and I'm happy to

5720
04:18:05,824 --> 04:18:06,791
support the item, thank you MR.

5721
04:18:06,791 --> 04:18:08,760
Chair.

5722
04:18:08,760 --> 04:18:09,760
>>chair: commissioner milian

5723
04:18:09,760 --> 04:18:10,995
orbis.

5724
04:18:10,995 --> 04:18:12,763
>>commissioner milian orbis:

5725
04:18:12,763 --> 04:18:15,763
thank you MR. Chair. I

5726
04:18:21,204 --> 04:18:22,973
obviously agree with the task

5727
04:18:22,973 --> 04:18:24,241
force recommendations.

5728
04:18:24,241 --> 04:18:26,760
You've worked diligently the

5729
04:18:26,760 --> 04:18:27,977
past year on hopefully fixing

5730
04:18:27,977 --> 04:18:28,111
our procurement system.

5731
04:18:28,111 --> 04:18:29,945
E get

5732
04:18:29,945 --> 04:18:31,947
so many complaints, one of

5733
04:18:31,947 --> 04:18:33,149
those we've received as

5734
04:18:33,149 --> 04:18:35,151
commissioners and I'm glad we

5735
04:18:35,151 --> 04:18:36,952
were able to address those, I'm

5736
04:18:36,952 --> 04:18:38,153
glad we were able to assist

5737
04:18:38,153 --> 04:18:39,955
them so thank you for moving

5738
04:18:39,955 --> 04:18:41,955
this forward.

5739
04:18:42,958 --> 04:18:44,259
>>chair: commissioner bermudez.

5740
04:18:44,259 --> 04:18:46,127
>>commissioner bermudez: I have

5741
04:18:46,127 --> 04:18:47,963
a lot to say, let me start by

5742
04:18:47,963 --> 04:18:49,970
thanking you because your

5743
04:18:49,970 --> 04:18:51,320
efforts are efforts that I

5744
04:18:51,320 --> 04:18:52,967
think a number of us share but

5745
04:18:52,967 --> 04:18:54,969
you all shared which is to make

5746
04:18:54,969 --> 04:18:56,971
things more efficient in the

5747
04:18:56,971 --> 04:18:58,973
county not only for the large

5748
04:18:58,973 --> 04:19:00,174
businesses but small businesses

5749
04:19:00,174 --> 04:19:02,900
and I applaud your effort and

5750
04:19:02,900 --> 04:19:03,943
thank you for even though i

5751
04:19:03,943 --> 04:19:05,178
agree with the vice chair but I

5752
04:19:05,178 --> 04:19:07,948
don't like things being dropped

5753
04:19:07,948 --> 04:19:09,749
at 11 o'clock I appreciate the

5754
04:19:09,749 --> 04:19:10,917
fact you've taken steps to

5755
04:19:10,917 --> 04:19:13,917
clarify some of those things

5756
04:19:18,124 --> 04:19:19,926
and it's appreciate.

5757
04:19:19,926 --> 04:19:21,160
But effectiveness and

5758
04:19:21,160 --> 04:19:23,950
efficiency we've always shared

5759
04:19:23,950 --> 04:19:24,930
that and I applaud you as chair

5760
04:19:24,930 --> 04:19:25,197
for trying to move us in that

5761
04:19:25,197 --> 04:19:27,132
direction.

5762
04:19:27,132 --> 04:19:29,100
Not always as we had somebody

5763
04:19:29,100 --> 04:19:31,200
here earlier was a candidate

5764
04:19:31,200 --> 04:19:32,938
for lieutenant governor and

5765
04:19:32,938 --> 04:19:34,138
used the words nobody wants to

5766
04:19:34,138 --> 04:19:37,138
repeat, nobody was removed so

5767
04:19:37,475 --> 04:19:39,410
don't worry about it.

5768
04:19:39,410 --> 04:19:42,446
I probably want to support the

5769
04:19:42,446 --> 04:19:44,381
others and I'll tell you why.

5770
04:19:44,381 --> 04:19:47,981
When you were kind enough to

5771
04:19:48,185 --> 04:19:50,585
create the committee, namita

5772
04:20:01,264 --> 04:20:02,698
which by the way is an

5773
04:20:02,698 --> 04:20:04,400
improvement, she said 72 days

5774
04:20:04,400 --> 04:20:06,469
was the average and now it's 39

5775
04:20:06,469 --> 04:20:07,436
so it's a bit of an increase.

5776
04:20:07,436 --> 04:20:09,371
He also pointed out there

5777
04:20:09,371 --> 04:20:11,240
were 177 to 179 ordinances that

5778
04:20:11,240 --> 04:20:12,374
they tried to make the changes.

5779
04:20:12,374 --> 04:20:15,374
To decrease it to fewer

5780
04:20:18,680 --> 04:20:19,681
ordinances so it would be more

5781
04:20:19,681 --> 04:20:21,681
effective.

5782
04:20:21,683 --> 04:20:23,683
Increasing transparency and

5783
04:20:23,685 --> 04:20:25,685
decreasing bureaucracy and

5784
04:20:25,687 --> 04:20:26,854
being more efficient is always

5785
04:20:26,854 --> 04:20:29,854
something that is very very

5786
04:20:37,960 --> 04:20:39,980
important but looking at 5g in

5787
04:20:39,980 --> 04:20:41,101
particular, transparency is a

5788
04:20:41,101 --> 04:20:42,335
word used by many people.

5789
04:20:42,335 --> 04:20:44,337
Accountability is used by many

5790
04:20:44,337 --> 04:20:46,272
people especially in politics.

5791
04:20:46,272 --> 04:20:47,106
We are removing the collusion

5792
04:20:47,106 --> 04:20:49,106
portion.

5793
04:20:50,843 --> 04:20:52,745
From our ordinance.

5794
04:20:52,745 --> 04:20:54,647
So what type of message do we

5795
04:20:54,647 --> 04:20:55,814
send to the public, the

5796
04:20:55,814 --> 04:20:57,649
citizens at large and small

5797
04:20:57,649 --> 04:20:58,651
business we remove the

5798
04:20:58,651 --> 04:20:59,651
collusion portion?

5799
04:20:59,651 --> 04:21:01,651
Of the ordinance?

5800
04:21:03,822 --> 04:21:04,990
And don't think I didn't catch

5801
04:21:04,990 --> 04:21:06,825
it namita because I did, it's

5802
04:21:06,825 --> 04:21:07,826
not on the recommendations

5803
04:21:07,826 --> 04:21:09,930
because it wasn't a

5804
04:21:09,930 --> 04:21:11,329
recommendation and thank you to

5805
04:21:11,329 --> 04:21:12,290
the committee, appreciate the

5806
04:21:12,290 --> 04:21:14,980
work all you did.

5807
04:21:14,980 --> 04:21:16,634
We have a small business owner

5808
04:21:16,634 --> 04:21:18,502
to my left and I know bills

5809
04:21:18,502 --> 04:21:21,380
isn't a small business but we

5810
04:21:21,380 --> 04:21:23,438
are appreciative but the

5811
04:21:23,540 --> 04:21:24,641
collusion portion, removing

5812
04:21:24,641 --> 04:21:27,410
that bids precluded from

5813
04:21:33,816 --> 04:21:34,490
related parties.

5814
04:21:34,490 --> 04:21:35,818
Really?

5815
04:21:35,818 --> 04:21:37,386
If you're going to talk the

5816
04:21:37,386 --> 04:21:37,586
talk you've got to walk the

5817
04:21:37,586 --> 04:21:39,586
walk.

5818
04:21:44,920 --> 04:21:44,326
This department needs to be

5819
04:21:44,326 --> 04:21:46,161
changed.

5820
04:21:46,161 --> 04:21:48,229
Namita is a wonderful lady, the

5821
04:21:48,229 --> 04:21:49,330
administration has done a great

5822
04:21:49,330 --> 04:21:51,332
job but as many times as we say

5823
04:21:51,332 --> 04:21:53,201
it doesn't mean anything you do

5824
04:21:53,201 --> 04:21:55,690
the right job because at this

5825
04:21:55,690 --> 04:21:57,538
point my concern which is

5826
04:21:57,538 --> 04:22:00,875
whether you are large or small,

5827
04:22:00,875 --> 04:22:02,877
that we do things right.

5828
04:22:02,877 --> 04:22:05,877
The CHAIRWOMAN And many of

5829
04:22:06,613 --> 04:22:10,213
those members which by the way

5830
04:22:15,855 --> 04:22:16,990
they should be, they should

5831
04:22:16,990 --> 04:22:18,825
talk the talk, they should

5832
04:22:18,825 --> 04:22:19,158
really walk the walk after they

5833
04:22:19,158 --> 04:22:21,158
talk the talk.

5834
04:22:22,495 --> 04:22:24,430
We are sending the message and

5835
04:22:24,430 --> 04:22:25,664
I'm going to leave it with this

5836
04:22:25,664 --> 04:22:27,533
because I'm going to vote no on

5837
04:22:27,533 --> 04:22:30,268
the last three but I will

5838
04:22:30,268 --> 04:22:32,237
support you on the first one.

5839
04:22:32,237 --> 04:22:32,537
I think 20 days does not make a

5840
04:22:32,537 --> 04:22:34,537
difference.

5841
04:22:34,605 --> 04:22:37,500
20 days gives the opportunity

5842
04:22:39,811 --> 04:22:41,120
to all these people that spoke

5843
04:22:41,120 --> 04:22:42,513
on behalf of small businesses

5844
04:22:42,513 --> 04:22:46,113
and by the way the gentleman

5845
04:22:48,885 --> 04:22:50,854
who got a little bit emotional,

5846
04:22:50,854 --> 04:22:52,689
it's a second-generation small

5847
04:22:52,689 --> 04:22:55,890
business in miami-dade county,

5848
04:23:01,531 --> 04:23:02,765
needs an architect and I

5849
04:23:02,765 --> 04:23:04,634
thought senator garcia talks

5850
04:23:04,634 --> 04:23:06,569
about those startups, that's

5851
04:23:06,569 --> 04:23:08,738
great, we can get startups but

5852
04:23:08,738 --> 04:23:09,738
let's get people that can start

5853
04:23:09,738 --> 04:23:11,540
their own law firms, people

5854
04:23:11,540 --> 04:23:12,508
that construct their own

5855
04:23:12,508 --> 04:23:14,508
businesses going.

5856
04:23:14,510 --> 04:23:15,744
I have a problem with really

5857
04:23:15,744 --> 04:23:18,547
truthful like a problem with

5858
04:23:18,547 --> 04:23:19,714
the lack of transparency and

5859
04:23:19,714 --> 04:23:21,716
accountability on the issues

5860
04:23:21,716 --> 04:23:23,684
that make it more transparent

5861
04:23:23,684 --> 04:23:25,620
and accountable and he's not

5862
04:23:25,620 --> 04:23:27,521
sitting there now but I know

5863
04:23:27,521 --> 04:23:28,623
he's listening.

5864
04:23:28,623 --> 04:23:30,524
Commissioner soon to be

5865
04:23:30,524 --> 04:23:30,825
congressman gilbert, I'm going

5866
04:23:30,825 --> 04:23:32,593
to MISS Him.

5867
04:23:32,593 --> 04:23:34,528
I'm going to MISS Him a lot

5868
04:23:34,528 --> 04:23:35,996
because he's one of the guys I

5869
04:23:35,996 --> 04:23:37,531
count on that always checks

5870
04:23:37,531 --> 04:23:38,532
those details with the

5871
04:23:38,532 --> 04:23:39,733
administration.

5872
04:23:39,733 --> 04:23:41,535
Because we get told in the six

5873
04:23:41,535 --> 04:23:42,769
months later nothing has

5874
04:23:42,769 --> 04:23:44,738
happened but he's the one guy I

5875
04:23:44,738 --> 04:23:48,938
can count on that will say wait

5876
04:23:53,212 --> 04:23:55,147
a minute, did this happen, you

5877
04:23:55,147 --> 04:23:57,160
said this so I'm going to MISS

5878
04:23:57,160 --> 04:23:59,170
You because when you're gone

5879
04:23:59,170 --> 04:24:00,252
and I know the gentleman who

5880
04:24:00,252 --> 04:24:02,120
replaces you is a wonderful guy

5881
04:24:02,120 --> 04:24:04,220
but your zealousness to make

5882
04:24:04,220 --> 04:24:05,223
sure when the administration

5883
04:24:05,223 --> 04:24:06,123
talks the talk they should walk

5884
04:24:06,123 --> 04:24:08,260
the walk.

5885
04:24:08,260 --> 04:24:09,270
Has always been important to

5886
04:24:09,270 --> 04:24:11,270
this commission.

5887
04:24:14,198 --> 04:24:16,330
So oliver, I hope it's not just

5888
04:24:16,330 --> 04:24:17,901
a matter of you're going to

5889
04:24:17,901 --> 04:24:21,501
have other problems but I hope

5890
04:24:23,507 --> 04:24:27,107
that this commission if we keep

5891
04:24:27,177 --> 04:24:28,345
on using this term is

5892
04:24:28,345 --> 04:24:31,314
effective, and yes, if it can

5893
04:24:31,314 --> 04:24:35,514
be reduced I'm fine but we have

5894
04:24:37,860 --> 04:24:38,354
to monitor that whether in the

5895
04:24:38,354 --> 04:24:41,457
public it looks like it's going

5896
04:24:41,457 --> 04:24:43,459
to pass or whether there is an

5897
04:24:43,459 --> 04:24:44,726
extension, it's going to pass

5898
04:24:44,726 --> 04:24:46,561
eventually but I would like to

5899
04:24:46,561 --> 04:24:47,696
make sure we monitor this,

5900
04:24:47,696 --> 04:24:49,696
really monitor this.

5901
04:24:50,565 --> 04:24:52,500
i can't now that oliver is

5902
04:24:52,500 --> 04:24:54,502
going either that or I'm going

5903
04:24:54,502 --> 04:24:57,500
to have to get a cost and sit

5904
04:24:57,500 --> 04:24:58,172
in my office over here and it's

5905
04:24:58,172 --> 04:25:00,208
crazy so I want to make sure

5906
04:25:00,208 --> 04:25:03,808
these things get done and the

5907
04:25:08,615 --> 04:25:10,483
removal of section 2 11, I

5908
04:25:10,483 --> 04:25:11,885
don't think it's a good thing.

5909
04:25:11,885 --> 04:25:13,453
It sends the wrong message to

5910
04:25:13,453 --> 04:25:15,853
all the businesses, small

5911
04:25:22,728 --> 04:25:24,497
medium and large that the game

5912
04:25:24,497 --> 04:25:26,532
is, I don't know.

5913
04:25:26,532 --> 04:25:28,932
Everybody understands there's a

5914
04:25:29,340 --> 04:25:29,301
process and I've always been

5915
04:25:29,301 --> 04:25:31,102
confused.

5916
04:25:31,102 --> 04:25:31,336
All I want is fairness and

5917
04:25:31,336 --> 04:25:33,171
clarity.

5918
04:25:33,171 --> 04:25:36,107
The world is not perfect.

5919
04:25:36,107 --> 04:25:38,900
It isn't, not everybody's fair

5920
04:25:38,900 --> 04:25:39,777
but this is not just about us

5921
04:25:39,777 --> 04:25:40,144
as a commission, it's about the

5922
04:25:40,144 --> 04:25:41,846
administration.

5923
04:25:41,846 --> 04:25:43,281
We saw earlier today the

5924
04:25:43,281 --> 04:25:46,281
commission of a district could

5925
04:25:51,889 --> 04:25:53,900
have been facing tremendous

5926
04:25:53,900 --> 04:25:53,257
backlash and that just popped

5927
04:25:53,257 --> 04:25:55,580
up.

5928
04:25:55,580 --> 04:25:56,960
So I'm going to vote no on the

5929
04:25:56,960 --> 04:25:59,329
three others, I applaud you

5930
04:25:59,329 --> 04:26:00,497
again and don't take it

5931
04:26:00,497 --> 04:26:02,398
personally love the things I

5932
04:26:02,398 --> 04:26:04,334
said but I applaud the fact you

5933
04:26:04,334 --> 04:26:06,335
at least were willing to tackle

5934
04:26:06,335 --> 04:26:07,537
this subject, it's an important

5935
04:26:07,537 --> 04:26:09,405
subject and it just so happens

5936
04:26:09,405 --> 04:26:11,740
I'm not going to do three of

5937
04:26:11,740 --> 04:26:13,740
the items.

5938
04:26:17,546 --> 04:26:18,547
>>chair: you need to do

5939
04:26:18,547 --> 04:26:20,820
something?

5940
04:26:20,820 --> 04:26:22,482
>>commissioner gonzalez: if I

5941
04:26:23,785 --> 04:26:26,185
can remove cosponsorship 8 k5.

5942
04:26:30,725 --> 04:26:32,725
>>chair: anyone else?

5943
04:26:35,296 --> 04:26:37,696
Hardemon, are you getting?

5944
04:26:42,736 --> 04:26:43,970
I mean,

5945
04:26:43,970 --> 04:26:45,970
>>commissioner hardemon: you

5946
04:26:47,207 --> 04:26:49,209
know we can talk.

5947
04:26:49,209 --> 04:26:52,612
>>chair: I'm trying to say if

5948
04:26:52,612 --> 04:26:53,846
raquel speaks first and you say

5949
04:26:53,846 --> 04:26:56,246
something that triggers her

5950
04:26:56,615 --> 04:26:57,616
she's going to want to speak

5951
04:26:57,616 --> 04:26:59,616
twice.

5952
04:26:59,618 --> 04:27:00,919
>>commissioner hardemon: that's

5953
04:27:00,919 --> 04:27:02,854
how this works, we each other

5954
04:27:02,854 --> 04:27:03,788
and say what we believe, we

5955
04:27:03,788 --> 04:27:07,388
don't create a game and call

5956
04:27:07,792 --> 04:27:09,600
the player.

5957
04:27:09,600 --> 04:27:11,600
>>commissioner regalado: thank

5958
04:27:11,620 --> 04:27:13,310
you to my colleagues, I wish

5959
04:27:13,310 --> 04:27:14,198
glad some of my concerns were

5960
04:27:14,198 --> 04:27:15,299
mentioned and I'm going to

5961
04:27:15,299 --> 04:27:18,299
start with the easy stuff.

5962
04:27:19,670 --> 04:27:21,605
In 5g there is one of the

5963
04:27:21,605 --> 04:27:22,706
recommendations is to develop a

5964
04:27:22,706 --> 04:27:22,973
standard ground lease

5965
04:27:22,973 --> 04:27:24,973
agreement.

5966
04:27:30,480 --> 04:27:31,614
I would like this to have

5967
04:27:31,614 --> 04:27:31,781
parity with what we did for

5968
04:27:31,781 --> 04:27:33,582
hud.

5969
04:27:33,582 --> 04:27:35,485
What we did is we said where

5970
04:27:35,485 --> 04:27:36,180
going to have a standard ground

5971
04:27:36,180 --> 04:27:37,186
lease and when you apply

5972
04:27:37,186 --> 04:27:39,689
whatever you don't object to

5973
04:27:39,689 --> 04:27:42,689
you are barred from objecting

5974
04:27:43,726 --> 04:27:45,194
to it.

5975
04:27:45,194 --> 04:27:46,795
So I think you should add that

5976
04:27:46,795 --> 04:27:47,896
on here because that's really

5977
04:27:47,896 --> 04:27:49,164
when we study why broward and

5978
04:27:49,164 --> 04:27:52,764
other places do it faster it's

5979
04:27:54,350 --> 04:27:55,937
because we have a template,

5980
04:27:55,937 --> 04:27:57,710
whatever you disagree with in

5981
04:27:57,710 --> 04:28:00,671
that template if you do not

5982
04:28:12,619 --> 04:28:14,620
submit your objection when you

5983
04:28:14,620 --> 04:28:16,622
submit your response, you are

5984
04:28:16,622 --> 04:28:17,757
foreclosed from bringing it up

5985
04:28:17,757 --> 04:28:19,625
during negotiations so that

5986
04:28:19,625 --> 04:28:20,727
would be my recommendation for

5987
04:28:20,727 --> 04:28:22,628
parity with what we do in

5988
04:28:22,628 --> 04:28:23,862
affordable housing so

5989
04:28:23,862 --> 04:28:24,697
everything kind of lines up the

5990
04:28:24,697 --> 04:28:26,632
same way.

5991
04:28:26,632 --> 04:28:27,867
We spent a lot of time doing

5992
04:28:27,867 --> 04:28:29,768
that so I don't know, you are

5993
04:28:29,768 --> 04:28:29,935
cool with that, that's an easy

5994
04:28:29,935 --> 04:28:31,703
one.

5995
04:28:31,703 --> 04:28:33,639
The other one I wanted to

5996
04:28:33,639 --> 04:28:34,739
mention unfortunately I can

5997
04:28:34,739 --> 04:28:36,808
never forget and item.

5998
04:28:36,808 --> 04:28:37,776
I appreciated the five day

5999
04:28:37,776 --> 04:28:39,644
objection period.

6000
04:28:39,644 --> 04:28:40,645
And the changes to the

6001
04:28:40,645 --> 04:28:41,846
objection period.

6002
04:28:41,846 --> 04:28:43,881
But I can think off the top of

6003
04:28:43,881 --> 04:28:46,881
my head of seven procurements

6004
04:28:47,585 --> 04:28:47,852
where there was not an

6005
04:28:47,852 --> 04:28:49,654
objection.

6006
04:28:49,654 --> 04:28:51,655
Yet when it came to the board

6007
04:28:51,655 --> 04:28:53,557
of county commissioners we were

6008
04:28:53,557 --> 04:28:54,758
inundated with letters drafted

6009
04:28:54,758 --> 04:28:56,693
exactly like objections.

6010
04:28:56,693 --> 04:28:58,628
So I think we need to draw a

6011
04:28:58,628 --> 04:29:00,564
hard line here because what we

6012
04:29:00,564 --> 04:29:03,564
MAY be doing is incentivizing

6013
04:29:04,634 --> 04:29:05,868
people to not object and then

6014
04:29:05,868 --> 04:29:07,403
send a letter and turn us into

6015
04:29:07,403 --> 04:29:09,338
the selection committee.

6016
04:29:09,338 --> 04:29:12,338
It's happened too many times

6017
04:29:14,677 --> 04:29:16,712
and I did watch by the way,

6018
04:29:16,712 --> 04:29:18,881
they were fascinating, a lot of

6019
04:29:18,881 --> 04:29:20,682
the points that were made were

6020
04:29:20,682 --> 04:29:21,850
great points but this was not

6021
04:29:21,850 --> 04:29:23,651
tackled because it's not

6022
04:29:23,651 --> 04:29:24,953
something you all see, it's

6023
04:29:24,953 --> 04:29:26,854
something we see.

6024
04:29:26,854 --> 04:29:28,220
So I don't know if you want to

6025
04:29:28,220 --> 04:29:29,900
deal with that now, I have

6026
04:29:29,900 --> 04:29:29,891
suggestions.

6027
04:29:29,891 --> 04:29:31,250
I think again

6028
04:29:31,250 --> 04:29:33,261
similar to what I'm saying

6029
04:29:33,261 --> 04:29:35,262
about the contracts, if there

6030
04:29:35,262 --> 04:29:36,430
has to be a determination, if

6031
04:29:36,430 --> 04:29:39,800
you send a letter when this

6032
04:29:39,800 --> 04:29:41,802
comes to the board and there is

6033
04:29:41,802 --> 04:29:44,202
a determination that whatever

6034
04:29:54,514 --> 04:29:56,482
arguments you are making could

6035
04:29:56,482 --> 04:29:57,683
help make an objection those

6036
04:29:57,683 --> 04:29:59,485
arguments should be stricken

6037
04:29:59,485 --> 04:30:00,753
when it is presented to the

6038
04:30:00,753 --> 04:30:02,621
board because you're choosing

6039
04:30:02,621 --> 04:30:04,489
not to go down one path so you

6040
04:30:04,489 --> 04:30:08,689
can take a second bite at the

6041
04:30:10,940 --> 04:30:12,300
apple or worse you know both

6042
04:30:12,300 --> 04:30:13,998
and all we are doing is delete

6043
04:30:13,998 --> 04:30:15,990
relitigating the objection and

6044
04:30:15,990 --> 04:30:17,990
complicating things more.

6045
04:30:17,134 --> 04:30:19,300
I think if we are going to draw

6046
04:30:19,300 --> 04:30:20,137
a line that it should cover

6047
04:30:20,137 --> 04:30:22,600
everything and not create

6048
04:30:22,600 --> 04:30:24,600
unintended consequences by

6049
04:30:24,800 --> 04:30:24,241
incentivizing people not to

6050
04:30:24,241 --> 04:30:26,900
object.

6051
04:30:26,900 --> 04:30:28,110
>>chair: I agree, how do we?

6052
04:30:28,110 --> 04:30:30,411
>>commissioner regalado: how we

6053
04:30:35,718 --> 04:30:37,653
effectuate would be when we get

6054
04:30:37,653 --> 04:30:38,854
a letter, when the agenda item

6055
04:30:38,854 --> 04:30:40,756
publishes we get the letters.

6056
04:30:40,756 --> 04:30:41,890
When we get the letters they

6057
04:30:41,890 --> 04:30:43,726
are made part of the record

6058
04:30:43,726 --> 04:30:44,860
here and usually passed out.

6059
04:30:44,860 --> 04:30:46,795
What I would say is, and

6060
04:30:46,795 --> 04:30:48,664
usually procurements is copied.

6061
04:30:48,664 --> 04:30:49,865
When they get those letters

6062
04:30:49,865 --> 04:30:51,800
then they have to give it to

6063
04:30:51,800 --> 04:30:53,668
our legal department and they

6064
04:30:53,668 --> 04:30:56,668
have to say these arguments

6065
04:31:03,110 --> 04:31:04,145
could have been.

6066
04:31:04,145 --> 04:31:04,445
An objection to the

6067
04:31:04,445 --> 04:31:05,146
procurement.

6068
04:31:05,146 --> 04:31:07,114
O those

6069
04:31:07,114 --> 04:31:09,116
arguments are taken out because

6070
04:31:09,116 --> 04:31:11,850
you had your chance to object.

6071
04:31:11,850 --> 04:31:12,987
And you didn't object and your

6072
04:31:12,987 --> 04:31:14,222
placing those objections in a

6073
04:31:14,222 --> 04:31:16,900
correspondence so you can have

6074
04:31:16,900 --> 04:31:16,290
a second bite at the apple

6075
04:31:16,290 --> 04:31:17,992
here.

6076
04:31:17,992 --> 04:31:19,193
In the same way when we

6077
04:31:19,193 --> 04:31:21,960
function because I judicially

6078
04:31:21,960 --> 04:31:22,164
that things are stricken then

6079
04:31:22,164 --> 04:31:24,131
that should be stricken.

6080
04:31:24,131 --> 04:31:26,000
That would be my legal advice.

6081
04:31:26,000 --> 04:31:29,600
>>chair: do you see an issue

6082
04:31:40,115 --> 04:31:42,115
with that?

6083
04:31:42,117 --> 04:31:43,318
>> it sounds fair but the whole

6084
04:31:43,318 --> 04:31:45,287
idea is the further you advance

6085
04:31:45,287 --> 04:31:47,122
into the process the more

6086
04:31:47,122 --> 04:31:48,590
entrenched you are into the

6087
04:31:48,590 --> 04:31:50,292
process so the idea of creating

6088
04:31:50,292 --> 04:31:52,294
another level of an objection

6089
04:31:52,294 --> 04:31:54,163
is precisely to do that, if

6090
04:31:54,163 --> 04:31:55,330
there's anything that needs to

6091
04:31:55,330 --> 04:31:57,990
be changed about the process

6092
04:31:57,990 --> 04:31:58,166
that staff and the

6093
04:31:58,166 --> 04:31:59,368
administration have the

6094
04:31:59,368 --> 04:32:01,270
opportunity to do so before it

6095
04:32:01,270 --> 04:32:02,371
is another year before it comes

6096
04:32:02,371 --> 04:32:04,106
here for you.

6097
04:32:04,106 --> 04:32:05,340
>>chair: you're saying

6098
04:32:05,340 --> 04:32:07,109
specifically just to arguments

6099
04:32:07,109 --> 04:32:09,111
that could have been.

6100
04:32:09,111 --> 04:32:10,313
>>commissioner regalado: things

6101
04:32:10,313 --> 04:32:13,313
that should have been, what

6102
04:32:18,554 --> 04:32:20,390
could have fallen within an

6103
04:32:20,390 --> 04:32:21,658
objection to that procurement

6104
04:32:21,658 --> 04:32:23,560
which now they are relitigating

6105
04:32:23,560 --> 04:32:25,528
in correspondence to the lord

6106
04:32:25,528 --> 04:32:27,463
of county commissioners instead

6107
04:32:27,463 --> 04:32:29,398
of officially filing an

6108
04:32:29,398 --> 04:32:30,634
objection or they did file an

6109
04:32:30,634 --> 04:32:32,402
objection, it was rejected and

6110
04:32:32,402 --> 04:32:32,602
now we are bringing it up

6111
04:32:32,602 --> 04:32:34,471
again.

6112
04:32:34,471 --> 04:32:36,406
>>chair: I'm fine with it, but

6113
04:32:36,406 --> 04:32:37,874
let's say we implement that,

6114
04:32:37,874 --> 04:32:39,750
they send us the letter.

6115
04:32:39,750 --> 04:32:40,879
We it becomes part of the

6116
04:32:40,879 --> 04:32:41,145
record, we give it to the

6117
04:32:41,145 --> 04:32:42,913
attorney.

6118
04:32:42,913 --> 04:32:46,513
They say what you just said

6119
04:32:50,210 --> 04:32:50,287
that it could have been

6120
04:32:50,287 --> 04:32:52,189
objective.

6121
04:32:52,189 --> 04:32:54,191
What happens after that because

6122
04:32:54,191 --> 04:32:57,191
as commissioners you can still

6123
04:33:06,700 --> 04:33:07,710
bring it up, they still kind of

6124
04:33:07,710 --> 04:33:08,572
accomplish.

6125
04:33:08,572 --> 04:33:10,208
>>commissioner regalado: yes

6126
04:33:10,208 --> 04:33:12,760
but on the record it will be

6127
04:33:12,760 --> 04:33:13,244
said this argument could have

6128
04:33:13,244 --> 04:33:15,146
been part of an official

6129
04:33:15,146 --> 04:33:15,379
objection and they chose not to

6130
04:33:15,379 --> 04:33:17,181
do that.

6131
04:33:17,181 --> 04:33:19,830
If we still want to go down

6132
04:33:19,830 --> 04:33:21,860
that rabbit hole we can but at

6133
04:33:21,860 --> 04:33:22,253
least there is on the record a

6134
04:33:22,253 --> 04:33:24,289
statement that they chose to

6135
04:33:24,289 --> 04:33:26,124
not use the vehicle provided to

6136
04:33:26,124 --> 04:33:27,325
them by our procurement.

6137
04:33:27,325 --> 04:33:30,925
>>chair: I don't see an issue

6138
04:33:32,831 --> 04:33:34,799
with it.

6139
04:33:34,799 --> 04:33:36,801
>> as mayor you reserve the

6140
04:33:36,801 --> 04:33:38,200
right to listen to it but you

6141
04:33:38,200 --> 04:33:39,871
acknowledge it was something I

6142
04:33:39,871 --> 04:33:41,306
could have been cured in an

6143
04:33:41,306 --> 04:33:43,750
earlier portion of the board

6144
04:33:43,750 --> 04:33:43,909
was given the opportunity at

6145
04:33:43,909 --> 04:33:45,844
that time.

6146
04:33:45,844 --> 04:33:47,812
>>chair: it doesn't change the

6147
04:33:47,812 --> 04:33:49,130
outcome on our end at least but

6148
04:33:49,130 --> 04:33:50,783
I'm fine with it because it

6149
04:33:50,783 --> 04:33:51,984
doesn't change what the

6150
04:33:51,984 --> 04:33:54,984
committee puts on the record

6151
04:33:55,687 --> 04:33:56,955
and they could have objected.

6152
04:33:56,955 --> 04:33:58,790
>>commissioner regalado: what

6153
04:33:58,790 --> 04:34:00,692
I'm saying is I think the

6154
04:34:00,692 --> 04:34:01,894
restrictions we are placing on

6155
04:34:01,894 --> 04:34:03,695
objections, I don't want people

6156
04:34:03,695 --> 04:34:06,732
to then send letters as a

6157
04:34:06,732 --> 04:34:08,732
because I objection.

6158
04:34:08,733 --> 04:34:10,637
I'm trying to hold everyone to

6159
04:34:10,637 --> 04:34:12,538
that rule and I think this

6160
04:34:12,538 --> 04:34:14,540
allows us then to look at those

6161
04:34:14,540 --> 04:34:15,541
arguments in the context of not

6162
04:34:15,541 --> 04:34:17,541
choosing to object.

6163
04:34:17,543 --> 04:34:18,544
>>chair: she still has the

6164
04:34:18,544 --> 04:34:19,979
floor.

6165
04:34:19,979 --> 04:34:21,548
>>commissioner gilbert: I

6166
04:34:21,548 --> 04:34:23,550
follow what you say

6167
04:34:23,550 --> 04:34:24,751
commissioner regalado but the

6168
04:34:24,751 --> 04:34:26,786
CHAIRMAN's point is well taken

6169
04:34:26,786 --> 04:34:28,721
because you're saying that

6170
04:34:28,721 --> 04:34:31,721
would just be cosmetic because

6171
04:34:36,462 --> 04:34:38,398
we could still always consider

6172
04:34:38,398 --> 04:34:39,565
and any other thing would be a

6173
04:34:39,565 --> 04:34:41,301
limitation on our ability to

6174
04:34:41,301 --> 04:34:42,369
take whatever comes into

6175
04:34:42,369 --> 04:34:44,304
purview into making our

6176
04:34:44,304 --> 04:34:45,538
decisions and we have that

6177
04:34:45,538 --> 04:34:46,473
discretion unless it's because

6178
04:34:46,473 --> 04:34:48,473
I judicial.

6179
04:34:54,848 --> 04:34:56,850
I think it's just cosmetic.

6180
04:34:56,850 --> 04:34:58,510
>>commissioner regalado: it's a

6181
04:34:58,510 --> 04:34:59,953
clarification on the record

6182
04:34:59,953 --> 04:35:01,855
because I can think of three

6183
04:35:01,855 --> 04:35:02,957
times it's happened where we

6184
04:35:02,957 --> 04:35:04,858
put our attorneys in a

6185
04:35:04,858 --> 04:35:06,590
difficult spot because then we

6186
04:35:06,590 --> 04:35:09,590
asked the question could this

6187
04:35:13,683 --> 04:35:14,835
have been an objection?

6188
04:35:14,835 --> 04:35:16,771
If it's already comes to us

6189
04:35:16,771 --> 04:35:18,639
with the determination saying

6190
04:35:18,639 --> 04:35:19,807
they didn't file an objection

6191
04:35:19,807 --> 04:35:21,843
or they did file an objection

6192
04:35:21,843 --> 04:35:23,711
and what's in this letter is a

6193
04:35:23,711 --> 04:35:24,846
repeat of that objection or

6194
04:35:24,846 --> 04:35:26,748
they could have filed, maybe

6195
04:35:26,748 --> 04:35:28,615
they mentioned five things,

6196
04:35:28,615 --> 04:35:30,180
they could have filed

6197
04:35:30,180 --> 04:35:31,686
objections for 1, 2 and three

6198
04:35:31,686 --> 04:35:32,854
they didn't and now four and

6199
04:35:32,854 --> 04:35:34,622
five that would have fallen

6200
04:35:34,622 --> 04:35:35,856
outside the scope, we can

6201
04:35:35,856 --> 04:35:37,792
consider all of it but at least

6202
04:35:37,792 --> 04:35:39,627
the record is clear as to their

6203
04:35:39,627 --> 04:35:41,630
decision to not file an

6204
04:35:41,630 --> 04:35:42,797
objection to be held to the

6205
04:35:42,797 --> 04:35:44,632
existing standard and if we

6206
04:35:44,632 --> 04:35:45,800
want to then step into that

6207
04:35:45,800 --> 04:35:47,635
space we do so knowingly

6208
04:35:47,635 --> 04:35:48,736
without turning it into a

6209
04:35:48,736 --> 04:35:50,639
commissioner has to ask the

6210
04:35:50,639 --> 04:35:51,640
question in order to have that

6211
04:35:51,640 --> 04:35:52,875
clarified.

6212
04:35:52,875 --> 04:35:54,609
>>commissioner gilbert: but

6213
04:35:54,609 --> 04:35:55,777
that's why it's cosmetic

6214
04:35:55,777 --> 04:35:57,746
because it doesn't actually

6215
04:35:57,746 --> 04:35:59,814
change anything, that's almost

6216
04:35:59,814 --> 04:36:01,817
the definition of cosmetic.

6217
04:36:01,817 --> 04:36:03,618
It doesn't change anything so

6218
04:36:03,618 --> 04:36:04,920
what they can say.

6219
04:36:04,920 --> 04:36:07,320
>>commissioner regalado: I hope

6220
04:36:07,623 --> 04:36:09,624
it does incentivizing them.

6221
04:36:09,624 --> 04:36:10,827
>>commissioner gilbert: so it's

6222
04:36:10,827 --> 04:36:12,795
lipgloss and not lipstick, I

6223
04:36:12,795 --> 04:36:13,729
don't get that but you accepted

6224
04:36:13,729 --> 04:36:15,729
it, let's roll.

6225
04:36:15,798 --> 04:36:17,633
>>chair: commissioner bermudez

6226
04:36:17,633 --> 04:36:18,834
to that point.

6227
04:36:18,834 --> 04:36:20,637
>>commissioner bermudez: I

6228
04:36:20,637 --> 04:36:22,637
agree with commissioner

6229
04:36:22,638 --> 04:36:23,806
gilbert, it's totally cosmetic

6230
04:36:23,806 --> 04:36:25,775
because some of the people on

6231
04:36:25,775 --> 04:36:27,643
that committee do this all the

6232
04:36:27,643 --> 04:36:28,844
time, we get a letter and an

6233
04:36:28,844 --> 04:36:30,714
elective decision was taken by

6234
04:36:30,714 --> 04:36:32,682
the committee and they might

6235
04:36:32,682 --> 04:36:34,150
lose a procurement here and

6236
04:36:34,150 --> 04:36:35,752
then they come in front of us,

6237
04:36:35,752 --> 04:36:37,620
I have no problem with it.

6238
04:36:37,620 --> 04:36:38,855
My only suggestion would be

6239
04:36:38,855 --> 04:36:41,855
since I believe legally they

6240
04:36:45,628 --> 04:36:47,530
still have the ability to bring

6241
04:36:47,530 --> 04:36:49,432
it in front of us whether we

6242
04:36:49,432 --> 04:36:51,435
like it or not it's up to us to

6243
04:36:51,435 --> 04:36:53,303
say you didn't follow the rules

6244
04:36:53,303 --> 04:36:55,305
and what I suggest is we also

6245
04:36:55,305 --> 04:36:56,539
add some language the county

6246
04:36:56,539 --> 04:36:58,408
attorney's office has to put a

6247
04:36:58,408 --> 04:36:59,542
line or a copy of it is in an

6248
04:36:59,542 --> 04:37:02,542
instance that they did not

6249
04:37:06,383 --> 04:37:08,318
appeal x, y, and z here.

6250
04:37:08,318 --> 04:37:09,453
But put it in writing because

6251
04:37:09,453 --> 04:37:11,289
we all know how the game is

6252
04:37:11,289 --> 04:37:12,490
played, they didn't get it,

6253
04:37:12,490 --> 04:37:14,291
they hired ex-, x lobby sauce

6254
04:37:14,291 --> 04:37:15,326
and tries to change the

6255
04:37:15,326 --> 04:37:16,393
decision.

6256
04:37:16,393 --> 04:37:18,295
If we are clear at the very

6257
04:37:18,295 --> 04:37:19,596
least we do it as a body and

6258
04:37:19,596 --> 04:37:21,366
accepted because you have a

6259
04:37:21,366 --> 04:37:23,300
right to come in front of us.

6260
04:37:23,300 --> 04:37:27,500
But I want the attorneys to add

6261
04:37:29,673 --> 04:37:31,676
least put it in writing.

6262
04:37:31,676 --> 04:37:32,844
>>commissioner regalado: this

6263
04:37:32,844 --> 04:37:34,745
would allow us to quantify it

6264
04:37:34,745 --> 04:37:37,748
and if people keep doing it we

6265
04:37:37,748 --> 04:37:39,650
can do something about it

6266
04:37:39,650 --> 04:37:40,852
because right now it's kind of

6267
04:37:40,852 --> 04:37:42,820
left to our memory to remember

6268
04:37:42,820 --> 04:37:44,723
how many times it's happened

6269
04:37:44,723 --> 04:37:45,657
because it's not something we

6270
04:37:45,657 --> 04:37:45,924
considered.

6271
04:37:45,924 --> 04:37:47,924
Next one.

6272
04:37:50,896 --> 04:37:52,970
To commissioner gilbert's point

6273
04:37:52,970 --> 04:37:53,898
about deviations, one of the

6274
04:37:53,898 --> 04:37:56,801
things I was hoping to find

6275
04:37:56,801 --> 04:37:57,969
here and I didn't find was more

6276
04:37:57,969 --> 04:38:00,369
accountability in terms of

6277
04:38:11,500 --> 04:38:13,500
change orders.

6278
04:38:13,520 --> 04:38:14,530
I would separate change orders

6279
04:38:14,530 --> 04:38:16,210
into 2 buckets.

6280
04:38:16,210 --> 04:38:17,923
Change orders as a result of a

6281
04:38:17,923 --> 04:38:19,925
change in scope which don't

6282
04:38:19,925 --> 04:38:21,160
concern me because that is a

6283
04:38:21,160 --> 04:38:22,461
department driven change order

6284
04:38:22,461 --> 04:38:24,430
versus change orders that you

6285
04:38:24,430 --> 04:38:26,298
didn't really know the market.

6286
04:38:26,298 --> 04:38:27,533
And now you're coming back.

6287
04:38:27,533 --> 04:38:29,335
Guess somewhere in the middle

6288
04:38:29,335 --> 04:38:32,935
there is change orders as a

6289
04:38:45,418 --> 04:38:47,320
result of time.

6290
04:38:47,320 --> 04:38:48,554
This board has already dealt

6291
04:38:48,554 --> 04:38:50,324
with that him and the majority

6292
04:38:50,324 --> 04:38:51,592
of our contracts saying if

6293
04:38:51,592 --> 04:38:53,560
there is a delay and a change

6294
04:38:53,560 --> 04:38:55,395
in pricing of materials or

6295
04:38:55,395 --> 04:38:56,563
labor we will add that to the

6296
04:38:56,563 --> 04:38:58,398
price so we've already done

6297
04:38:58,398 --> 04:39:00,334
that in the majority of our

6298
04:39:00,334 --> 04:39:01,501
departments so that doesn't

6299
04:39:01,501 --> 04:39:03,337
concern me nor does the scope

6300
04:39:03,337 --> 04:39:04,471
because sometimes the scope

6301
04:39:04,471 --> 04:39:06,474
changes and you get a scope

6302
04:39:06,474 --> 04:39:08,442
change order but in the case of

6303
04:39:08,442 --> 04:39:10,411
change orders that are, their

6304
04:39:10,411 --> 04:39:12,346
nature is derived from their

6305
04:39:12,346 --> 04:39:13,547
inability to quote the price

6306
04:39:13,547 --> 04:39:15,449
correctly, I think that there

6307
04:39:15,449 --> 04:39:17,451
should be an accounting of that

6308
04:39:17,451 --> 04:39:19,353
in our procurement system when

6309
04:39:19,353 --> 04:39:20,555
you look at these deviations.

6310
04:39:20,555 --> 04:39:22,323
I don't think you should look

6311
04:39:22,323 --> 04:39:23,558
at the deviations of that

6312
04:39:23,558 --> 04:39:25,493
contract, I think there should

6313
04:39:25,493 --> 04:39:27,328
be some information provided

6314
04:39:27,328 --> 04:39:29,330
regarding is this a serial

6315
04:39:29,330 --> 04:39:30,532
change order situation and

6316
04:39:30,532 --> 04:39:32,466
namita you and I have talked

6317
04:39:32,466 --> 04:39:34,335
about the serial change orders.

6318
04:39:34,335 --> 04:39:34,602
There are some people this is

6319
04:39:34,602 --> 04:39:36,404
their mo.

6320
04:39:36,404 --> 04:39:37,606
I would suggest as we look at

6321
04:39:37,606 --> 04:39:39,506
dropping the lowest we also

6322
04:39:39,506 --> 04:39:41,409
have some information about the

6323
04:39:41,409 --> 04:39:44,409
change order history of the

6324
04:39:57,580 --> 04:39:58,960
people that are being right

6325
04:39:58,960 --> 04:40:00,862
because if it's a scope thing

6326
04:40:00,862 --> 04:40:02,970
we change the scope, if it's a

6327
04:40:02,970 --> 04:40:03,865
time thing we've already dealt

6328
04:40:03,865 --> 04:40:05,867
with it but if this is a

6329
04:40:05,867 --> 04:40:07,869
situation in which you are

6330
04:40:07,869 --> 04:40:09,700
consistently underpricing in

6331
04:40:09,700 --> 04:40:10,973
order to hit us with change

6332
04:40:10,973 --> 04:40:12,875
orders this is the time to deal

6333
04:40:12,875 --> 04:40:14,760
with that and not later in the

6334
04:40:14,760 --> 04:40:15,770
process.

6335
04:40:15,770 --> 04:40:15,978
>>chair: namita, how can we

6336
04:40:15,978 --> 04:40:17,978
address that?

6337
04:40:18,460 --> 04:40:20,150
>> when the selection committee

6338
04:40:20,150 --> 04:40:21,951
is scoring you want them to

6339
04:40:21,951 --> 04:40:23,185
have information about the

6340
04:40:23,185 --> 04:40:26,185
change order history for each

6341
04:40:30,590 --> 04:40:31,327
of the companies?

6342
04:40:31,327 --> 04:40:33,262
>>commissioner regalado: when

6343
04:40:33,262 --> 04:40:35,231
we look at dropping the lowest,

6344
04:40:35,231 --> 04:40:37,199
I think that's when you should

6345
04:40:37,199 --> 04:40:39,134
look at change order history.

6346
04:40:39,134 --> 04:40:41,710
I'm happy to include it also as

6347
04:40:41,710 --> 04:40:42,238
a selection committee but they

6348
04:40:42,238 --> 04:40:44,730
will say that's different.

6349
04:40:44,730 --> 04:40:46,750
If you include it in the

6350
04:40:46,750 --> 04:40:47,343
selection committees decision

6351
04:40:47,343 --> 04:40:49,478
making regarding that, it might

6352
04:40:49,478 --> 04:40:51,415
be prejudicial but as you

6353
04:40:51,415 --> 04:40:52,548
decide to drop folks, that's

6354
04:40:52,548 --> 04:40:54,417
something you might want to

6355
04:40:54,417 --> 04:40:55,618
consider and definitely

6356
04:40:55,618 --> 04:40:57,487
something the board should have

6357
04:40:57,487 --> 04:40:58,387
access to as we look at those

6358
04:40:58,387 --> 04:41:00,387
decisions.

6359
04:41:00,691 --> 04:41:02,692
>>chair: can we lower our

6360
04:41:02,692 --> 04:41:03,694
voices, it's getting louder in

6361
04:41:03,694 --> 04:41:04,695
the background.

6362
04:41:04,695 --> 04:41:05,796
Guys in the back,

6363
04:41:05,796 --> 04:41:07,796
commissioners, staff.

6364
04:41:22,546 --> 04:41:24,515
Go ahead.

6365
04:41:24,515 --> 04:41:26,416
>> I'll have to look how we can

6366
04:41:26,416 --> 04:41:28,452
implement this, I don't want to

6367
04:41:28,452 --> 04:41:30,455
commit because collecting that

6368
04:41:30,455 --> 04:41:31,589
information means if there's 10

6369
04:41:31,589 --> 04:41:33,424
companies I have to collect

6370
04:41:33,424 --> 04:41:35,424
that information from

6371
04:41:35,459 --> 04:41:36,594
departments monitoring those

6372
04:41:36,594 --> 04:41:38,663
contracts and come back to

6373
04:41:38,663 --> 04:41:40,432
either selection committee so

6374
04:41:40,432 --> 04:41:41,599
it could be adding more time.

6375
04:41:41,599 --> 04:41:43,535
I'm happy to work with you

6376
04:41:43,535 --> 04:41:45,603
separately apart from the items

6377
04:41:45,603 --> 04:41:47,605
to incorporate how we make sure

6378
04:41:47,605 --> 04:41:49,440
the change orders are only as a

6379
04:41:49,440 --> 04:41:50,676
result of the county changes

6380
04:41:50,676 --> 04:41:52,770
and things like that but not

6381
04:41:52,770 --> 04:41:53,278
vendor driven.

6382
04:41:53,278 --> 04:41:55,180
>>commissioner regalado: I

6383
04:41:55,180 --> 04:41:56,281
would say maybe go back five

6384
04:41:56,281 --> 04:41:58,183
years and just look at the

6385
04:41:58,183 --> 04:41:59,350
vendor driven and when it comes

6386
04:41:59,350 --> 04:42:01,253
to the board, not as part of

6387
04:42:01,253 --> 04:42:03,222
the selection process but when

6388
04:42:03,222 --> 04:42:05,900
it comes to the board because

6389
04:42:05,900 --> 04:42:05,357
that's when the rubber meets

6390
04:42:05,357 --> 04:42:07,920
the road.

6391
04:42:07,920 --> 04:42:08,259
I don't want to jam up the

6392
04:42:08,259 --> 04:42:09,861
selection committee process but

6393
04:42:09,861 --> 04:42:11,630
that's information we need to

6394
04:42:11,630 --> 04:42:13,640
make a final determination.

6395
04:42:13,640 --> 04:42:14,933
If it's a serial change because

6396
04:42:14,933 --> 04:42:16,835
we are the ones that have to

6397
04:42:16,835 --> 04:42:18,804
approve the change order not

6398
04:42:18,804 --> 04:42:19,805
the selection committee claps

6399
04:42:19,805 --> 04:42:21,807
that could be done.

6400
04:42:21,807 --> 04:42:23,375
>>commissioner regalado: thank

6401
04:42:23,375 --> 04:42:23,542
you, now to the board a complex

6402
04:42:23,542 --> 04:42:24,643
one.

6403
04:42:24,643 --> 04:42:28,243
So one of the things we've

6404
04:42:28,780 --> 04:42:29,915
talked about that are part of

6405
04:42:29,915 --> 04:42:34,115
this is how we make up the

6406
04:42:41,761 --> 04:42:42,896
selection committee and I've

6407
04:42:42,896 --> 04:42:44,764
talked about this before.

6408
04:42:44,764 --> 04:42:46,764
Selection committees were

6409
04:42:46,799 --> 04:42:48,801
created by this board over two

6410
04:42:48,801 --> 04:42:49,935
decades ago when there was an

6411
04:42:49,935 --> 04:42:51,772
administration that did not

6412
04:42:51,772 --> 04:42:53,773
trust staff and over the years

6413
04:42:53,773 --> 04:42:54,941
we now have selection

6414
04:42:54,941 --> 04:42:56,843
committees made up of staff.

6415
04:42:56,843 --> 04:42:58,811
So the interesting, how the

6416
04:42:58,811 --> 04:42:59,111
pendulum has moved is very

6417
04:42:59,111 --> 04:43:01,111
interesting.

6418
04:43:02,416 --> 04:43:04,251
One of these changes changes

6419
04:43:04,251 --> 04:43:06,152
the makeup and I think that

6420
04:43:06,152 --> 04:43:07,320
there's been a lot of concerns

6421
04:43:07,320 --> 04:43:09,155
about the makeup of selection

6422
04:43:09,155 --> 04:43:09,422
committee in terms of their

6423
04:43:09,422 --> 04:43:11,258
expertise.

6424
04:43:11,258 --> 04:43:14,858
I appreciate that but at the

6425
04:43:20,301 --> 04:43:21,568
same time as someone who gets

6426
04:43:21,568 --> 04:43:23,968
frustrated when you're waiting

6427
04:43:24,305 --> 04:43:25,472
for something to get through a

6428
04:43:25,472 --> 04:43:27,341
department because the human

6429
04:43:27,341 --> 04:43:29,443
who has to approve it is on a

6430
04:43:29,443 --> 04:43:31,311
selection committee and another

6431
04:43:31,311 --> 04:43:33,314
selection committee and as a

6432
04:43:33,314 --> 04:43:34,515
result of the vacation time we

6433
04:43:34,515 --> 04:43:36,317
give them there are situations

6434
04:43:36,317 --> 04:43:37,518
in which the humans that are

6435
04:43:37,518 --> 04:43:39,320
supposed to be at their desk

6436
04:43:39,320 --> 04:43:40,488
are gone for a long time.

6437
04:43:40,488 --> 04:43:42,523
One of the things I discussed

6438
04:43:42,523 --> 04:43:45,523
that obviously we couldn't do

6439
04:43:48,396 --> 04:43:50,231
because of strip with namita

6440
04:43:50,231 --> 04:43:52,167
and staff was instead of

6441
04:43:52,167 --> 04:43:54,169
randomly picking individuals to

6442
04:43:54,169 --> 04:43:56,171
serve on the selection

6443
04:43:56,171 --> 04:43:57,405
committees and giving them

6444
04:43:57,405 --> 04:43:59,507
vacation time for it and having

6445
04:43:59,507 --> 04:44:01,176
them go out and come back,

6446
04:44:01,176 --> 04:44:02,377
tracking it and people are gone

6447
04:44:02,377 --> 04:44:04,312
for a long time as a result of

6448
04:44:04,312 --> 04:44:06,281
this process, consider having

6449
04:44:06,281 --> 04:44:08,183
the department select a group

6450
04:44:08,183 --> 04:44:09,317
of people that are there

6451
04:44:09,317 --> 04:44:11,253
selection committee people.

6452
04:44:11,253 --> 04:44:12,488
These are there experts and to

6453
04:44:12,488 --> 04:44:14,289
commissioner gilbert's point,

6454
04:44:14,289 --> 04:44:18,489
it is their job to show up.

6455
04:44:29,871 --> 04:44:31,707
And their workload is adjusted

6456
04:44:31,707 --> 04:44:32,942
as a result of that.

6457
04:44:32,942 --> 04:44:34,877
And we eliminate this vacation

6458
04:44:34,877 --> 04:44:36,711
time nonsense because it's not

6459
04:44:36,711 --> 04:44:37,913
working out for us.

6460
04:44:37,913 --> 04:44:40,717
Although only thing giving them

6461
04:44:40,717 --> 04:44:42,719
more vacation time is doing is

6462
04:44:42,719 --> 04:44:44,720
incentivizing a small group of

6463
04:44:44,720 --> 04:44:46,722
people to participate in

6464
04:44:46,722 --> 04:44:47,890
selection committees and they

6465
04:44:47,890 --> 04:44:48,891
go on vacation.

6466
04:44:48,891 --> 04:44:50,827
I would rather have a group of

6467
04:44:50,827 --> 04:44:52,729
people that we know are going

6468
04:44:52,729 --> 04:44:54,731
to be spending time in

6469
04:44:54,731 --> 04:44:55,932
selection committees and we

6470
04:44:55,932 --> 04:44:57,900
adjust their work accordingly

6471
04:44:57,900 --> 04:44:59,835
so I don't have something

6472
04:44:59,835 --> 04:45:01,705
sitting on their desk for five

6473
04:45:01,705 --> 04:45:01,938
months as we wait for them to

6474
04:45:01,938 --> 04:45:03,840
return.

6475
04:45:03,840 --> 04:45:05,709
And I think that we are losing

6476
04:45:05,709 --> 04:45:06,900
not winning on this vacation

6477
04:45:06,900 --> 04:45:07,710
time thing.

6478
04:45:07,710 --> 04:45:07,877
I would, we tried it.

6479
04:45:07,877 --> 04:45:09,877
Don't

6480
04:45:09,879 --> 04:45:11,782
think it's necessarily working.

6481
04:45:11,782 --> 04:45:13,717
We have people showing up at

6482
04:45:13,717 --> 04:45:14,885
selection committees saying I

6483
04:45:14,885 --> 04:45:16,853
didn't read this or have the

6484
04:45:16,853 --> 04:45:17,821
chance to read it, that happens

6485
04:45:17,821 --> 04:45:19,723
all the time.

6486
04:45:19,723 --> 04:45:21,725
So I think we need to really

6487
04:45:21,725 --> 04:45:23,727
look at who's serving on these

6488
04:45:23,727 --> 04:45:24,928
selection committees, let the

6489
04:45:24,928 --> 04:45:25,896
department pick the people best

6490
04:45:25,896 --> 04:45:27,764
suited for this.

6491
04:45:27,764 --> 04:45:29,732
Create a pool, remove the

6492
04:45:29,732 --> 04:45:30,601
vacation time situation and

6493
04:45:30,601 --> 04:45:32,636
adjust their work accordingly

6494
04:45:32,636 --> 04:45:34,572
so if they are not available to

6495
04:45:34,572 --> 04:45:36,507
do that work it can be given to

6496
04:45:36,507 --> 04:45:37,674
someone else and we don't have

6497
04:45:37,674 --> 04:45:39,109
to wait two or three months to

6498
04:45:39,109 --> 04:45:41,109
get something signed.

6499
04:45:41,412 --> 04:45:42,580
>>chair: we addressed this to

6500
04:45:42,580 --> 04:45:44,980
some level, which everyone,

6501
04:46:02,834 --> 04:46:04,803
this was talked about.

6502
04:46:04,803 --> 04:46:06,370
>> the selection committee

6503
04:46:06,370 --> 04:46:07,939
process has been revamped since

6504
04:46:07,939 --> 04:46:09,807
we last discussed and part of

6505
04:46:09,807 --> 04:46:10,976
the consideration as we

6506
04:46:10,976 --> 04:46:12,844
developed an ai tool that's

6507
04:46:12,844 --> 04:46:13,145
looking into the expertise of

6508
04:46:13,145 --> 04:46:14,912
the county.

6509
04:46:14,912 --> 04:46:16,781
We dumped the scope of work in

6510
04:46:16,781 --> 04:46:17,949
that ai tool that takes the

6511
04:46:17,949 --> 04:46:19,784
names of the people who have

6512
04:46:19,784 --> 04:46:20,986
expertise and takes into

6513
04:46:20,986 --> 04:46:22,988
account if they are serving on

6514
04:46:22,988 --> 04:46:24,790
another selection committee,

6515
04:46:24,790 --> 04:46:26,580
they are active county

6516
04:46:26,580 --> 04:46:27,959
employees and if they have done

6517
04:46:27,959 --> 04:46:29,895
the training so the workload

6518
04:46:29,895 --> 04:46:31,797
balance, there was a time when

6519
04:46:31,797 --> 04:46:32,998
people are getting appointed

6520
04:46:32,998 --> 04:46:34,867
multiple selection committees

6521
04:46:34,867 --> 04:46:36,802
so that has been addressed and

6522
04:46:36,802 --> 04:46:38,300
if I'm serving into selection

6523
04:46:38,300 --> 04:46:40,500
committees I'm not going to be

6524
04:46:40,500 --> 04:46:41,909
put in one third one because we

6525
04:46:41,909 --> 04:46:43,776
are trying to balance their

6526
04:46:43,776 --> 04:46:44,977
regular work with the selection

6527
04:46:44,977 --> 04:46:46,779
committee so that process, I

6528
04:46:46,779 --> 04:46:47,913
used to receive a lot of

6529
04:46:47,913 --> 04:46:49,882
complaints but now it has

6530
04:46:49,882 --> 04:46:51,985
smoothed over I haven't heard

6531
04:46:51,985 --> 04:46:53,886
any complaints where people are

6532
04:46:53,886 --> 04:46:55,210
saying I'm overdone on this

6533
04:46:55,210 --> 04:46:56,889
because we are spreading the

6534
04:46:56,889 --> 04:46:58,791
work on all departments plus

6535
04:46:58,791 --> 04:46:59,925
department directors are

6536
04:46:59,925 --> 04:47:01,895
recommending names for the

6537
04:47:01,895 --> 04:47:02,963
committee so let's say if it's

6538
04:47:02,963 --> 04:47:04,797
a five person selection

6539
04:47:04,797 --> 04:47:06,650
committee three people are

6540
04:47:06,650 --> 04:47:08,670
recommended by departments and

6541
04:47:08,670 --> 04:47:09,802
we try to find sometimes four

6542
04:47:09,802 --> 04:47:11,400
but trying to find the

6543
04:47:11,400 --> 04:47:12,339
remaining expertise from other

6544
04:47:12,339 --> 04:47:13,540
county departments so the

6545
04:47:13,540 --> 04:47:15,609
process is working much better

6546
04:47:15,609 --> 04:47:17,476
ever since we implemented the

6547
04:47:17,476 --> 04:47:21,760
ai tool and taken into account

6548
04:47:21,314 --> 04:47:22,583
their workload.

6549
04:47:22,583 --> 04:47:24,417
>>commissioner regalado: but

6550
04:47:24,417 --> 04:47:26,319
what about the vacation time

6551
04:47:26,319 --> 04:47:27,487
and cost of that and the loss

6552
04:47:27,487 --> 04:47:30,324
of that employee for that?

6553
04:47:30,324 --> 04:47:33,324
>> we were struggling with the

6554
04:47:42,360 --> 04:47:43,938
participation but I think it's

6555
04:47:43,938 --> 04:47:45,906
an incentive because people are

6556
04:47:45,906 --> 04:47:47,141
reading these proposals either

6557
04:47:47,141 --> 04:47:48,909
during their work or they keep

6558
04:47:48,909 --> 04:47:50,760
taking home there are five

6559
04:47:50,760 --> 04:47:52,460
proposals, eight proposals.

6560
04:47:52,460 --> 04:47:53,914
If you ask me I have no choice

6561
04:47:53,914 --> 04:47:55,115
but to take them home and read

6562
04:47:55,115 --> 04:47:57,510
them on the weekend so this is

6563
04:47:57,510 --> 04:47:58,919
to incentivize people, you do

6564
04:47:58,919 --> 04:48:00,122
get one day whether it's five

6565
04:48:00,122 --> 04:48:02,570
proposal rates, it has changed

6566
04:48:02,570 --> 04:48:03,910
the mindset that there's

6567
04:48:03,910 --> 04:48:04,926
something in return.

6568
04:48:04,926 --> 04:48:06,928
I think it's working.

6569
04:48:06,928 --> 04:48:08,620
>>commissioner regalado: but

6570
04:48:08,620 --> 04:48:10,980
namita, to my point we have

6571
04:48:10,980 --> 04:48:11,166
cases where people are walking

6572
04:48:11,166 --> 04:48:13,101
in saying they haven't even

6573
04:48:13,101 --> 04:48:14,350
read the executive summary,

6574
04:48:14,350 --> 04:48:15,971
that is a thing.

6575
04:48:15,971 --> 04:48:17,906
We get complaints about it all

6576
04:48:17,906 --> 04:48:21,430
the time it's not a new

6577
04:48:21,430 --> 04:48:23,450
complaint, is an ongoing

6578
04:48:23,450 --> 04:48:24,246
complaint and I appreciate the

6579
04:48:24,246 --> 04:48:26,114
directors are now participating

6580
04:48:26,114 --> 04:48:28,160
in the selection but it's

6581
04:48:28,160 --> 04:48:29,117
challenging for us to know that

6582
04:48:29,117 --> 04:48:31,187
they are not there desk.

6583
04:48:31,187 --> 04:48:33,220
There getting vacation time and

6584
04:48:33,220 --> 04:48:36,425
say they are not prepared or

6585
04:48:36,425 --> 04:48:38,327
they haven't read.

6586
04:48:38,327 --> 04:48:39,528
>>chair: instance we should

6587
04:48:39,528 --> 04:48:43,128
keep record in the person that

6588
04:48:44,300 --> 04:48:46,302
says they cannot read or review

6589
04:48:46,302 --> 04:48:48,137
the information should never be

6590
04:48:48,137 --> 04:48:49,271
part of one again for sure

6591
04:48:49,271 --> 04:48:50,273
because they said it on the

6592
04:48:50,273 --> 04:48:51,341
record.

6593
04:48:51,341 --> 04:48:53,309
They said it and it's recorded

6594
04:48:53,309 --> 04:48:54,276
so I agree with at least

6595
04:48:54,276 --> 04:48:56,312
keeping record but the other

6596
04:48:56,312 --> 04:48:59,912
thing what I would suggest on

6597
04:49:01,551 --> 04:49:02,852
the rest of it is let this play

6598
04:49:02,852 --> 04:49:04,821
out for a couple months, see if

6599
04:49:04,821 --> 04:49:06,622
it works a lot of these things

6600
04:49:06,622 --> 04:49:07,790
we MAY not need to revisit but

6601
04:49:07,790 --> 04:49:09,725
it's changed a little bit,

6602
04:49:09,725 --> 04:49:13,925
let's see what works now and if

6603
04:49:15,898 --> 04:49:17,934
not we revisit it.

6604
04:49:17,934 --> 04:49:19,680
>>commissioner regalado: there

6605
04:49:19,680 --> 04:49:21,370
certain departments we need

6606
04:49:21,370 --> 04:49:22,940
these people to approve these

6607
04:49:22,940 --> 04:49:24,107
so they need to get back to

6608
04:49:24,107 --> 04:49:25,976
their desk read the procurement

6609
04:49:25,976 --> 04:49:27,911
part is important but so is the

6610
04:49:27,911 --> 04:49:29,478
everyday work of miami dade

6611
04:49:29,478 --> 04:49:32,349
county and when you combine all

6612
04:49:32,349 --> 04:49:32,583
these things it gets a little

6613
04:49:32,583 --> 04:49:34,351
complex.

6614
04:49:34,351 --> 04:49:35,518
I hope, I think this idea of

6615
04:49:35,518 --> 04:49:37,354
reporting back on this and

6616
04:49:37,354 --> 04:49:37,621
saying how it's working is a

6617
04:49:37,621 --> 04:49:39,621
good idea.

6618
04:49:40,424 --> 04:49:43,424
I think having the directors

6619
04:49:51,602 --> 04:49:52,837
participate, having some

6620
04:49:52,837 --> 04:49:54,638
accountability and making sure

6621
04:49:54,638 --> 04:49:56,607
someone is not overly

6622
04:49:56,607 --> 04:49:58,607
participating in selection

6623
04:49:58,609 --> 04:49:59,777
committees because some of the

6624
04:49:59,777 --> 04:50:01,780
complaints I got is the same

6625
04:50:01,780 --> 04:50:03,615
people not reading, not knowing

6626
04:50:03,615 --> 04:50:05,616
but racking up all the vacation

6627
04:50:05,616 --> 04:50:07,618
time and disappearing so I'm

6628
04:50:07,618 --> 04:50:08,853
glad the ai or however we are

6629
04:50:08,853 --> 04:50:10,755
doing will try to curtail that

6630
04:50:10,755 --> 04:50:12,791
but I think the board should

6631
04:50:12,791 --> 04:50:14,626
also be aware of the reporting

6632
04:50:14,626 --> 04:50:15,627
on this in case we need to

6633
04:50:15,627 --> 04:50:17,627
course correct.

6634
04:50:19,630 --> 04:50:21,630
That's it.

6635
04:50:25,670 --> 04:50:27,672
>>chair: any other discussions?

6636
04:50:27,672 --> 04:50:30,720
Commissioner steinberg said she

6637
04:50:30,209 --> 04:50:31,377
wants double, you want to time

6638
04:50:31,377 --> 04:50:32,844
commissioner regalado?

6639
04:50:32,844 --> 04:50:33,780
I know there was a motion

6640
04:50:33,780 --> 04:50:35,780
already.

6641
04:50:35,914 --> 04:50:40,714
To move them all but I think I

6642
04:50:45,824 --> 04:50:46,124
don't know, I will take them up

6643
04:50:46,124 --> 04:50:48,124
separately.

6644
04:50:52,331 --> 04:50:53,332
Okay, go ahead commissioner

6645
04:50:53,332 --> 04:50:54,567
steinberg.

6646
04:50:54,567 --> 04:50:56,435
>>commissioner steinberg: I

6647
04:50:56,435 --> 04:50:57,569
think it's very important since

6648
04:50:57,569 --> 04:50:59,505
we are making some changes

6649
04:50:59,505 --> 04:51:01,407
today we get a lot of feedback

6650
04:51:01,407 --> 04:51:02,709
and I appreciate some of the

6651
04:51:02,709 --> 04:51:05,709
amendments that this does come

6652
04:51:06,946 --> 04:51:07,179
back in some form of a further

6653
04:51:07,179 --> 04:51:09,140
update.

6654
04:51:09,140 --> 04:51:10,951
I don't know if you feel six

6655
04:51:10,951 --> 04:51:15,151
months or a year is enough time

6656
04:51:21,461 --> 04:51:23,463
so we can incorporate and

6657
04:51:23,463 --> 04:51:25,465
fine-tune to make sure we are

6658
04:51:25,465 --> 04:51:26,566
cognizant of everything we are

6659
04:51:26,566 --> 04:51:28,668
doing so we can try to

6660
04:51:28,668 --> 04:51:29,702
eliminate as many unintended

6661
04:51:29,702 --> 04:51:31,739
consequences as possible so I

6662
04:51:31,739 --> 04:51:33,574
make that into a recommendation

6663
04:51:33,574 --> 04:51:35,475
or amendment into what we do.

6664
04:51:35,475 --> 04:51:36,543
>>chair: commissioner cohen

6665
04:51:36,543 --> 04:51:38,478
higgins.

6666
04:51:38,478 --> 04:51:40,480
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

6667
04:51:40,480 --> 04:51:41,849
move 5e and any amendments.

6668
04:51:41,849 --> 04:51:43,483
>>chair: seconded by

6669
04:51:43,483 --> 04:51:45,483
commissioner gonzalez.

6670
04:51:45,485 --> 04:51:47,485
>>commissioner regalado:

6671
04:51:47,488 --> 04:51:48,655
commissioner steinberg made a

6672
04:51:48,655 --> 04:51:50,591
good point, we need a report,

6673
04:51:50,591 --> 04:51:51,592
are we running it staff through

6674
04:51:51,592 --> 04:51:52,693
all of them?

6675
04:51:52,693 --> 04:51:55,693
I'm happy to second her

6676
04:51:56,997 --> 04:51:58,997
friendly amendment.

6677
04:51:59,166 --> 04:52:02,166
>>chair: what did you suggest?

6678
04:52:02,370 --> 04:52:05,706
Procurement takes a bit so I

6679
04:52:05,706 --> 04:52:07,608
think that the 12 month mark

6680
04:52:07,608 --> 04:52:10,800
and just because procurement

6681
04:52:10,712 --> 04:52:14,912
takes a bit so at 12 months we

6682
04:52:17,510 --> 04:52:19,754
need namita a report and make

6683
04:52:19,754 --> 04:52:20,922
the adjustments as needed so as

6684
04:52:20,922 --> 04:52:23,992
amended for all of them with

6685
04:52:23,992 --> 04:52:25,600
the reporting so there is a

6686
04:52:25,600 --> 04:52:27,460
motion which was it?

6687
04:52:32,767 --> 04:52:33,360
Seconded by commissioner

6688
04:52:33,360 --> 04:52:35,360
gonzalez.

6689
04:52:38,806 --> 04:52:40,410
So item 5e substitute,

6690
04:52:40,410 --> 04:52:41,843
>>chair: likely amendment on

6691
04:52:41,843 --> 04:52:43,843
the floor.

6692
04:52:46,849 --> 04:52:48,160
>> amend 5e to require

6693
04:52:48,160 --> 04:52:49,851
disclosure of whether a

6694
04:52:49,851 --> 04:52:51,621
protester objected to issues

6695
04:52:51,621 --> 04:52:52,655
raised during a procurement

6696
04:52:52,655 --> 04:52:54,623
process.

6697
04:52:54,623 --> 04:52:57,226
>>chair: yes, okay, call the

6698
04:52:57,226 --> 04:52:59,226
roll.

6699
04:53:06,303 --> 04:53:07,570
>>commissioner gilbert:

6700
04:53:07,570 --> 04:53:09,970
>>commissioner gilbert: this is

6701
04:53:10,640 --> 04:53:13,400
a cosmetic change, yes.

6702
04:53:13,643 --> 04:53:15,611
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

6703
04:53:15,611 --> 04:53:17,611
>>commissioner hardemon:

6704
04:53:17,646 --> 04:53:19,646
>>commissioner lopez:

6705
04:53:19,648 --> 04:53:20,917
>>commissioner milian orbis:

6706
04:53:20,917 --> 04:53:22,917
>>commissioner regalado: yes,

6707
04:53:23,587 --> 04:53:24,854
and it's data, not cosmetic.

6708
04:53:24,854 --> 04:53:25,622
>>commissioner gilbert:

6709
04:53:25,622 --> 04:53:27,590
lipgloss.

6710
04:53:27,590 --> 04:53:29,590
>>commissioner steinberg:

6711
04:53:29,826 --> 04:53:31,595
>>commissioner bermudez:

6712
04:53:31,595 --> 04:53:32,729
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

6713
04:53:32,729 --> 04:53:34,598
>>senator garcia:

6714
04:53:34,598 --> 04:53:35,932
>>vice chair mcghee:

6715
04:53:35,932 --> 04:53:38,332
>>chair: I vote yes.

6716
04:53:38,604 --> 04:53:40,604
>> motion passes unanimously.

6717
04:53:40,604 --> 04:53:42,473
>>chair: commissioner cohen

6718
04:53:42,473 --> 04:53:43,707
higgins.

6719
04:53:43,707 --> 04:53:45,442
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

6720
04:53:45,442 --> 04:53:47,842
5f and any agreed-upon

6721
04:53:48,311 --> 04:53:50,311
amendments.

6722
04:53:50,515 --> 04:53:52,283
>>chair: second by commissioner

6723
04:53:52,283 --> 04:53:52,583
lopez, want to be the

6724
04:53:52,583 --> 04:53:54,583
amendments?

6725
04:53:56,253 --> 04:53:58,550
Want to read the amendments.

6726
04:53:58,550 --> 04:53:59,323
>> amended to remove

6727
04:53:59,323 --> 04:54:01,323
implementation recommendations

6728
04:54:05,763 --> 04:54:07,698
910 and 11, currently sections

6729
04:54:07,698 --> 04:54:09,600
12 and three of the item were

6730
04:54:09,600 --> 04:54:11,603
amended to amend the

6731
04:54:11,603 --> 04:54:12,604
corresponding code provisions

6732
04:54:12,604 --> 04:54:13,604
implementing those

6733
04:54:13,604 --> 04:54:15,604
recommendations.

6734
04:54:15,606 --> 04:54:16,607
They also have reporting

6735
04:54:16,607 --> 04:54:18,607
requirements.

6736
04:54:18,609 --> 04:54:20,612
>>chair: please call the roll.

6737
04:54:20,612 --> 04:54:22,612
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

6738
04:54:22,614 --> 04:54:24,614
>>commissioner hardemon:

6739
04:54:24,616 --> 04:54:26,616
>>commissioner lopez: yes.

6740
04:54:26,684 --> 04:54:28,653
>>commissioner milian orbis:

6741
04:54:28,653 --> 04:54:30,589
>>commissioner regalado: yes.

6742
04:54:30,589 --> 04:54:32,589
>>commissioner steinberg:

6743
04:54:32,624 --> 04:54:34,624
>>commissioner bermudez: no.

6744
04:54:34,626 --> 04:54:34,793
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

6745
04:54:34,793 --> 04:54:36,793
for.

6746
04:54:37,595 --> 04:54:39,595
>>senator garcia:

6747
04:54:40,666 --> 04:54:42,634
>>commissioner gilbert: yes.

6748
04:54:42,634 --> 04:54:44,470
>>vice chair mcghee: no.

6749
04:54:44,470 --> 04:54:46,470
>>chair: yes.

6750
04:54:49,307 --> 04:54:51,307
>> motion passes 1010 2.

6751
04:54:51,310 --> 04:54:54,310
>> we move 5g substitute and

6752
04:55:02,321 --> 04:55:04,321
agreed-upon amendments.

6753
04:55:04,390 --> 04:55:06,291
>> amend section 1 to require

6754
04:55:06,291 --> 04:55:08,260
applicants for the leasing of

6755
04:55:08,260 --> 04:55:09,428
county owned property to object

6756
04:55:09,428 --> 04:55:11,364
to terms of the counties

6757
04:55:11,364 --> 04:55:13,266
standard ground lease where the

6758
04:55:13,266 --> 04:55:15,266
applicant has foreclosed

6759
04:55:15,268 --> 04:55:16,435
releasing objections during

6760
04:55:16,435 --> 04:55:18,270
negotiation and adding a

6761
04:55:18,270 --> 04:55:20,270
one-year requirement.

6762
04:55:20,273 --> 04:55:22,275
>>chair: clerk please call the

6763
04:55:22,275 --> 04:55:25,275
roll, moved and seconded by

6764
04:55:25,611 --> 04:55:26,846
commissioner regalado.

6765
04:55:26,846 --> 04:55:27,613
>>commissioner hardemon:

6766
04:55:27,613 --> 04:55:29,613
against.

6767
04:55:29,615 --> 04:55:31,615
>>commissioner lopez: yes.

6768
04:55:31,618 --> 04:55:33,618
>>commissioner milian orbis:

6769
04:55:33,653 --> 04:55:35,622
>>commissioner regalado: yes.

6770
04:55:35,622 --> 04:55:36,790
>>commissioner steinberg:

6771
04:55:36,790 --> 04:55:38,790
>>commissioner bermudez:

6772
04:55:41,528 --> 04:55:43,530
english no, spanish no, no.

6773
04:55:43,530 --> 04:55:45,530
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

6774
04:55:45,999 --> 04:55:47,999
>>senator garcia:

6775
04:55:48,635 --> 04:55:50,635
>>commissioner gilbert: yes.

6776
04:55:51,605 --> 04:55:54,500
>>vice chair mcghee: no.

6777
04:55:56,710 --> 04:55:58,710
>>chair: yes.

6778
04:56:02,283 --> 04:56:04,251
>> motion passes 8 to 4.

6779
04:56:04,251 --> 04:56:06,253
>> move 5h substitute and any

6780
04:56:06,253 --> 04:56:08,253
agreed-upon amendments.

6781
04:56:15,830 --> 04:56:17,310
>>chair: seconded by gonzalez.

6782
04:56:17,310 --> 04:56:18,799
>> eliminating dropping the

6783
04:56:18,799 --> 04:56:20,000
lowest score, keep that

6784
04:56:20,000 --> 04:56:21,870
recommendation a set if the

6785
04:56:21,870 --> 04:56:23,805
lowest score deviates 25% or

6786
04:56:23,805 --> 04:56:24,972
more from the average score

6787
04:56:24,972 --> 04:56:26,807
awarded this score shall be

6788
04:56:26,807 --> 04:56:29,207
dropped, also having a

6789
04:56:30,946 --> 04:56:31,947
reporting requirement within a

6790
04:56:31,947 --> 04:56:33,181
year.

6791
04:56:33,181 --> 04:56:34,949
>>commissioner regalado: we

6792
04:56:34,949 --> 04:56:36,500
talked about providing

6793
04:56:36,500 --> 04:56:38,520
information to the board

6794
04:56:38,520 --> 04:56:41,520
regarding change orders in this

6795
04:56:45,727 --> 04:56:47,762
one when it comes to the board.

6796
04:56:47,762 --> 04:56:50,232
>> it was directed to staff to

6797
04:56:50,232 --> 04:56:53,232
approve the agenda to include

6798
04:56:53,736 --> 04:56:56,136
it in the agenda.

6799
04:56:56,672 --> 04:56:57,606
>>chair: clerk please call the

6800
04:56:57,606 --> 04:56:59,606
roll.

6801
04:56:59,608 --> 04:57:01,608
>>commissioner lopez: yes.

6802
04:57:01,610 --> 04:57:03,610
>>commissioner milian orbis:

6803
04:57:03,612 --> 04:57:05,130
>>commissioner regalado: yes.

6804
04:57:05,130 --> 04:57:07,130
>>commissioner steinberg:

6805
04:57:07,816 --> 04:57:09,816
>>commissioner bermudez: no.

6806
04:57:09,818 --> 04:57:11,421
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

6807
04:57:11,421 --> 04:57:13,421
for.

6808
04:57:13,790 --> 04:57:15,790
>>senator garcia:

6809
04:57:16,759 --> 04:57:18,759
>>commissioner gilbert: yes.

6810
04:57:19,228 --> 04:57:20,630
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

6811
04:57:20,630 --> 04:57:22,630
>>commissioner hardemon:

6812
04:57:23,566 --> 04:57:25,966
>>vice chair mcghee: yes.

6813
04:57:27,703 --> 04:57:29,703
>>chair: yes.

6814
04:57:31,675 --> 04:57:33,643
>> motion passes 9 to 3.

6815
04:57:33,643 --> 04:57:36,513
>>chair: is that concluding our

6816
04:57:36,513 --> 04:57:37,713
public hearing items?

6817
04:57:37,713 --> 04:57:39,515
MADAM Attorney or MR. Attorney

6818
04:57:39,515 --> 04:57:43,115
if you can read now second

6819
04:58:09,146 --> 04:58:11,490
reading items.

6820
04:58:11,490 --> 04:58:14,649
>> you'd like for me to read

6821
04:58:14,986 --> 04:58:16,986
them all?

6822
04:58:16,987 --> 04:58:18,189
>>chair: yes please if you have

6823
04:58:18,189 --> 04:58:19,957
any bifurcation requests you

6824
04:58:19,957 --> 04:58:22,600
can read those as well.

6825
04:58:22,600 --> 04:58:25,660
>> seven a relates two for hire

6826
04:58:37,842 --> 04:58:39,744
motor vehicles amending 3183

6827
04:58:39,744 --> 04:58:40,879
and 304 of the code revising

6828
04:58:40,879 --> 04:58:42,781
provisions relating to the

6829
04:58:42,781 --> 04:58:44,150
temporary permanent removal of

6830
04:58:44,150 --> 04:58:45,750
chauffeurs from the ambassador

6831
04:58:45,750 --> 04:58:47,750
cab program providing

6832
04:58:47,752 --> 04:58:49,752
eligibility requirements

6833
04:58:49,754 --> 04:58:50,956
providing conditions under

6834
04:58:50,956 --> 04:58:52,925
which chauffeurs removed from

6835
04:58:52,925 --> 04:58:54,893
the ambassador cab program MAY

6836
04:58:54,893 --> 04:58:56,728
regain eligibility to apply to

6837
04:58:56,728 --> 04:58:58,730
operate and ambassador cab,

6838
04:58:58,730 --> 04:59:00,732
making technical and conforming

6839
04:59:00,732 --> 04:59:02,732
changes providing separability

6840
04:59:02,734 --> 04:59:03,935
inclusion in the code and an

6841
04:59:03,935 --> 04:59:05,737
effective date, 7b relates to

6842
04:59:05,737 --> 04:59:08,137
rules of procedure amending

6843
04:59:13,446 --> 04:59:15,381
section 2-one revising

6844
04:59:15,381 --> 04:59:17,381
requirements related to

6845
04:59:17,383 --> 04:59:18,450
notification provided by the

6846
04:59:18,450 --> 04:59:20,386
mayor's designee to all

6847
04:59:20,386 --> 04:59:22,386
district commissioners of

6848
04:59:22,389 --> 04:59:24,624
matters originating with the

6849
04:59:24,624 --> 04:59:26,392
administration providing

6850
04:59:26,392 --> 04:59:28,394
separability inclusion in the

6851
04:59:28,394 --> 04:59:30,363
code and an effective date, 7c

6852
04:59:30,363 --> 04:59:31,531
relates to passenger motor

6853
04:59:31,531 --> 04:59:33,400
carrier vehicles amending

6854
04:59:33,400 --> 04:59:35,368
section 31 102 and 31 107 of

6855
04:59:35,368 --> 04:59:36,502
the code revising vehicle age

6856
04:59:36,502 --> 04:59:38,373
requirements for certain

6857
04:59:38,373 --> 04:59:40,373
passenger motor vehicles

6858
04:59:40,373 --> 04:59:41,574
amending definitions making

6859
04:59:41,574 --> 04:59:43,574
technical and conforming

6860
04:59:44,377 --> 04:59:46,377
changes providing separability

6861
04:59:46,379 --> 04:59:46,746
inclusion in the code and an

6862
04:59:46,746 --> 04:59:48,581
effective date.

6863
04:59:48,581 --> 04:59:50,384
7e is an ordinance relating to

6864
04:59:50,384 --> 04:59:51,785
fire prevention amending

6865
04:59:51,785 --> 04:59:53,387
chapter 14 of the code,

6866
04:59:53,387 --> 04:59:55,387
updating title, amending

6867
04:59:55,389 --> 04:59:56,490
definitions, changing

6868
04:59:56,490 --> 04:59:58,391
requirements for an owner

6869
04:59:58,391 --> 04:59:59,726
statement, amending procedures

6870
04:59:59,726 --> 05:00:01,362
for reveals of fire code

6871
05:00:01,362 --> 05:00:03,397
violations, providing for the

6872
05:00:03,397 --> 05:00:05,365
recording of consent agreements

6873
05:00:05,365 --> 05:00:07,367
and notices of violation,

6874
05:00:07,367 --> 05:00:08,835
requiring building owners and

6875
05:00:08,835 --> 05:00:10,371
occupants notify the chief

6876
05:00:10,371 --> 05:00:11,572
official for correction of

6877
05:00:11,572 --> 05:00:13,441
certain violations, authorizing

6878
05:00:13,441 --> 05:00:15,375
the chief fire official to

6879
05:00:15,375 --> 05:00:17,375
order disconnection of

6880
05:00:19,312 --> 05:00:20,515
utilities and structures,

6881
05:00:20,515 --> 05:00:22,915
upending fire code violations

6882
05:00:23,317 --> 05:00:24,552
under specific circumstances,

6883
05:00:24,552 --> 05:00:26,420
making technical amendments to

6884
05:00:26,420 --> 05:00:28,322
the fire prevention code

6885
05:00:28,322 --> 05:00:29,656
updating the fire alarm

6886
05:00:29,656 --> 05:00:31,326
ordinance providing for the

6887
05:00:31,326 --> 05:00:32,594
sale of exempt fireworks in

6888
05:00:32,594 --> 05:00:34,562
accordance with section 791.04

6889
05:00:34,562 --> 05:00:36,530
of the statutes, providing for

6890
05:00:36,530 --> 05:00:38,366
the designation and posting to

6891
05:00:38,366 --> 05:00:40,302
identify structures sharing a

6892
05:00:40,302 --> 05:00:42,302
street address updating

6893
05:00:42,304 --> 05:00:43,438
requirements for submittal and

6894
05:00:43,438 --> 05:00:45,339
review of emergency action

6895
05:00:45,339 --> 05:00:47,308
plans, providing for the

6896
05:00:47,308 --> 05:00:49,310
testing of lighting equipment,

6897
05:00:49,310 --> 05:00:51,513
providing for the reporting of

6898
05:00:51,513 --> 05:00:53,315
required maintenance activities

6899
05:00:53,315 --> 05:00:54,549
for fire protection systems,

6900
05:00:54,549 --> 05:00:56,949
fighting for the installation

6901
05:00:57,319 --> 05:00:58,553
of emergency power systems and

6902
05:00:58,553 --> 05:01:00,523
installation of water supply

6903
05:01:00,523 --> 05:01:02,491
for firefighting outside the

6904
05:01:02,491 --> 05:01:04,491
urban development boundary,

6905
05:01:04,526 --> 05:01:06,395
making technical and conforming

6906
05:01:06,395 --> 05:01:08,330
changes amending section 8 ml

6907
05:01:08,330 --> 05:01:10,299
and vote imposing civil

6908
05:01:10,299 --> 05:01:12,299
penalties and providing

6909
05:01:12,301 --> 05:01:14,336
separability inclusion in the

6910
05:01:14,336 --> 05:01:17,936
code and an effective date and

6911
05:01:34,657 --> 05:01:36,626
7 a supplements, 7f relates to

6912
05:01:36,626 --> 05:01:38,460
the comprehensive development

6913
05:01:38,460 --> 05:01:39,729
master plan providing

6914
05:01:39,729 --> 05:01:41,497
disposition of application see

6915
05:01:41,497 --> 05:01:43,433
dmv 2113 located west of

6916
05:01:43,433 --> 05:01:45,435
northwest 137 avenue and sr 836

6917
05:01:45,435 --> 05:01:47,437
interchange and north side of

6918
05:01:47,437 --> 05:01:48,671
theoretical northwest 6th

6919
05:01:48,671 --> 05:01:50,607
street filed by kelly tractor

6920
05:01:50,607 --> 05:01:53,443
in the MAY 2023 cycle to amend

6921
05:01:53,443 --> 05:01:54,544
the counties comprehensive

6922
05:01:54,544 --> 05:01:56,446
development master plan

6923
05:01:56,446 --> 05:01:58,446
providing separability

6924
05:01:58,448 --> 05:01:59,649
exclusion from the code and an

6925
05:01:59,649 --> 05:02:00,551
effective date and supplements

6926
05:02:00,551 --> 05:02:02,453
1, 2 and 3.

6927
05:02:02,453 --> 05:02:04,455
Those are your second reading

6928
05:02:04,455 --> 05:02:05,589
items and I have a request to

6929
05:02:05,589 --> 05:02:07,691
bifurcate items 7e and did

6930
05:02:07,691 --> 05:02:08,725
supplements as well as 7a.

6931
05:02:08,725 --> 05:02:09,593
Then the only requests are 7e

6932
05:02:09,593 --> 05:02:11,428
and 7f.

6933
05:02:11,428 --> 05:02:13,431
>>chair: do I have a motion on

6934
05:02:13,431 --> 05:02:14,598
the remainder of non-bifurcated

6935
05:02:14,598 --> 05:02:16,998
items, second by gonzalez,

6936
05:02:17,434 --> 05:02:19,469
clerk please call the roll.

6937
05:02:19,469 --> 05:02:21,439
>>commissioner milian orbis:

6938
05:02:21,439 --> 05:02:23,439
>>commissioner regalado:

6939
05:02:23,441 --> 05:02:25,441
>>commissioner steinberg:

6940
05:02:25,443 --> 05:02:27,443
>>commissioner bermudez:

6941
05:02:29,179 --> 05:02:29,396
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

6942
05:02:29,396 --> 05:02:31,396
for.

6943
05:02:31,416 --> 05:02:33,416
>>senator garcia:

6944
05:02:36,487 --> 05:02:38,487
>>commissioner gilbert: yes.

6945
05:02:38,489 --> 05:02:40,489
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

6946
05:02:40,492 --> 05:02:42,492
>>commissioner hardemon:

6947
05:02:42,894 --> 05:02:44,862
>>commissioner lopez: yes.

6948
05:02:44,862 --> 05:02:46,664
>>vice chair mcghee:

6949
05:02:46,664 --> 05:02:49,640
>>chair: I vote yes.

6950
05:02:52,270 --> 05:02:53,572
>> motion passes unanimously.

6951
05:02:53,572 --> 05:02:55,972
>>commissioner gilbert: show me

6952
05:02:56,608 --> 05:02:59,800
as cosponsor on 7a.

6953
05:03:00,111 --> 05:03:03,111
>>chair: 7e was bifurcated by

6954
05:03:04,783 --> 05:03:06,685
commissioner lopez.

6955
05:03:06,685 --> 05:03:08,685
You are recognized.

6956
05:03:08,687 --> 05:03:11,870
>>commissioner lopez: thank you

6957
05:03:15,860 --> 05:03:17,830
MR. Chair. I have an issue with

6958
05:03:17,830 --> 05:03:19,831
the supplement that removes the

6959
05:03:19,831 --> 05:03:21,670
proposed recordkeeping

6960
05:03:21,670 --> 05:03:23,350
requirement that was intended

6961
05:03:23,350 --> 05:03:24,870
to ensure certain fireworks

6962
05:03:24,870 --> 05:03:27,870
sales are being conducted in

6963
05:03:31,878 --> 05:03:33,460
accordance with the florida

6964
05:03:33,460 --> 05:03:34,881
statute, I was in the house

6965
05:03:34,881 --> 05:03:35,882
when we decided it was

6966
05:03:35,882 --> 05:03:37,882
important to ensure

6967
05:03:37,883 --> 05:03:39,510
accountability because we have

6968
05:03:39,510 --> 05:03:40,954
exemptions of the types of

6969
05:03:40,954 --> 05:03:43,123
fireworks that can be sold and

6970
05:03:43,123 --> 05:03:45,910
it's only through recordkeeping

6971
05:03:45,910 --> 05:03:47,260
we can keep people accountable

6972
05:03:47,260 --> 05:03:48,895
so I'd like to, I can't vote on

6973
05:03:48,895 --> 05:03:50,620
the item if they don't replace

6974
05:03:50,620 --> 05:03:52,620
the record-keeping document

6975
05:03:52,899 --> 05:03:53,900
which is the big accountability

6976
05:03:53,900 --> 05:03:55,900
provision.

6977
05:03:56,903 --> 05:03:58,171
>>chair: commissioner gonzalez.

6978
05:03:58,171 --> 05:04:00,171
>>commissioner gonzalez: first

6979
05:04:00,908 --> 05:04:02,910
to the county attorney's office

6980
05:04:02,910 --> 05:04:04,440
there's an amendment or

6981
05:04:04,440 --> 05:04:06,913
something you need to add.

6982
05:04:06,913 --> 05:04:08,915
>> commissioner gonzalez as an

6983
05:04:08,915 --> 05:04:10,150
amendment and he moves to amend

6984
05:04:10,150 --> 05:04:13,220
agenda item 7e to this item and

6985
05:04:13,220 --> 05:04:14,221
adopt agenda item 7e as

6986
05:04:14,221 --> 05:04:16,221
amended.

6987
05:04:16,223 --> 05:04:17,357
>>commissioner gonzalez: to

6988
05:04:17,357 --> 05:04:19,225
commissioner lopez, I don't

6989
05:04:19,225 --> 05:04:21,229
disagree, I think you're right

6990
05:04:21,229 --> 05:04:22,363
thank you for bringing it up.

6991
05:04:22,363 --> 05:04:24,231
The reason we took it out

6992
05:04:24,231 --> 05:04:26,631
initially, we had extensive

6993
05:04:28,869 --> 05:04:30,700
conversations with fire along

6994
05:04:30,700 --> 05:04:32,400
with the county attorney's

6995
05:04:32,400 --> 05:04:33,841
office and they can explain it

6996
05:04:33,841 --> 05:04:35,420
better than I but it seems

6997
05:04:35,420 --> 05:04:36,944
there might be a preemptive

6998
05:04:36,944 --> 05:04:39,120
issue here it seems like it

6999
05:04:39,120 --> 05:04:40,114
might arise litigation because

7000
05:04:40,114 --> 05:04:41,916
of some clarity that's needed

7001
05:04:41,916 --> 05:04:43,510
in the statute.

7002
05:04:43,510 --> 05:04:45,530
That's the reason we took it

7003
05:04:45,530 --> 05:04:46,120
out, I don't disagree with you

7004
05:04:46,120 --> 05:04:48,856
and I be happy to put it back

7005
05:04:48,856 --> 05:04:50,525
in but I'm told it could cause

7006
05:04:50,525 --> 05:04:51,626
possible litigation, that's

7007
05:04:51,626 --> 05:04:54,260
what I've been told.

7008
05:04:57,264 --> 05:04:57,499
I'm sure they can explain

7009
05:04:57,499 --> 05:04:59,400
further.

7010
05:04:59,400 --> 05:05:01,903
>> we've been together with the

7011
05:05:01,903 --> 05:05:03,838
fire department in

7012
05:05:03,838 --> 05:05:05,340
conversations with different

7013
05:05:05,340 --> 05:05:07,740
stakeholders on this issue.

7014
05:05:15,317 --> 05:05:17,285
The statute is less then clear

7015
05:05:17,285 --> 05:05:18,653
about what the department as in

7016
05:05:18,653 --> 05:05:21,530
this particular area, 99% of

7017
05:05:21,223 --> 05:05:22,491
this ordinance is unrelated to

7018
05:05:22,491 --> 05:05:24,426
fireworks, it's local fire code

7019
05:05:24,426 --> 05:05:26,595
so this is just one piece where

7020
05:05:26,595 --> 05:05:31,395
as of today I don't want to get

7021
05:05:33,936 --> 05:05:35,137
into the different litigation

7022
05:05:35,137 --> 05:05:36,972
strategies but the only two

7023
05:05:36,972 --> 05:05:38,974
things the statute is clear

7024
05:05:38,974 --> 05:05:40,750
about number one it's law

7025
05:05:40,750 --> 05:05:41,944
enforcement tasked with

7026
05:05:41,944 --> 05:05:43,112
enforcing statute, number two

7027
05:05:43,112 --> 05:05:44,247
you can use not a model of

7028
05:05:44,247 --> 05:05:46,215
clarity but we want to be clear

7029
05:05:46,215 --> 05:05:46,382
what the regulatory authority

7030
05:05:46,382 --> 05:05:48,382
is.

7031
05:05:49,719 --> 05:05:52,789
We differ to the warm-up to

7032
05:05:52,789 --> 05:05:55,258
talk about this issue but

7033
05:05:55,258 --> 05:05:55,525
that's where we are on the

7034
05:05:55,525 --> 05:05:57,525
legality.

7035
05:05:58,961 --> 05:06:00,831
>> I can't imagine asking

7036
05:06:00,831 --> 05:06:03,533
someone to keep records of

7037
05:06:03,533 --> 05:06:06,533
their litigation, that is what

7038
05:06:19,115 --> 05:06:21,520
the legislative intent was.

7039
05:06:21,520 --> 05:06:23,530
It's all because we have

7040
05:06:23,530 --> 05:06:24,288
exemptions of certain types of

7041
05:06:24,288 --> 05:06:26,256
fireworks that can be sold so

7042
05:06:26,256 --> 05:06:29,590
in order for us to understand

7043
05:06:29,590 --> 05:06:30,600
whether or not they are going

7044
05:06:30,600 --> 05:06:31,295
to do the right thing

7045
05:06:31,295 --> 05:06:34,640
record-keeping is the thing so

7046
05:06:34,640 --> 05:06:36,464
I disagree wholeheartedly with

7047
05:06:41,500 --> 05:06:42,106
the county attorney's

7048
05:06:42,106 --> 05:06:43,208
perception or the fire

7049
05:06:43,208 --> 05:06:45,208
department's perception.

7050
05:06:45,209 --> 05:06:47,178
i know what the legislature

7051
05:06:47,178 --> 05:06:49,460
meant and I believe asking

7052
05:06:49,460 --> 05:06:51,490
someone to keep records so we

7053
05:06:51,490 --> 05:06:53,510
can ensure they are selling the

7054
05:06:53,510 --> 05:06:53,952
appropriate fireworks and not

7055
05:06:53,952 --> 05:06:55,853
those that are illegal

7056
05:06:55,853 --> 05:06:57,788
shouldn't arise to any kind of

7057
05:06:57,788 --> 05:06:59,791
mitigation and if that were the

7058
05:06:59,791 --> 05:07:00,926
case we have to get rid of all

7059
05:07:00,926 --> 05:07:02,926
record-keeping for anyone,

7060
05:07:03,795 --> 05:07:05,290
that's absurd in my opinion.

7061
05:07:05,290 --> 05:07:06,864
>>chair: so what are we doing

7062
05:07:06,864 --> 05:07:11,640
here, you want to say it for

7063
05:07:12,971 --> 05:07:14,206
all the commissioners.

7064
05:07:14,206 --> 05:07:16,107
>>commissioner gonzalez: I'm

7065
05:07:16,107 --> 05:07:18,430
happy to work with fire in the

7066
05:07:18,430 --> 05:07:19,978
county attorney's office to

7067
05:07:19,978 --> 05:07:21,460
figure out because she makes a

7068
05:07:21,460 --> 05:07:22,146
valid point she was in

7069
05:07:22,146 --> 05:07:23,948
tallahassee when this was

7070
05:07:23,948 --> 05:07:25,948
getting done.

7071
05:07:25,950 --> 05:07:27,118
But per the conversation we had

7072
05:07:27,118 --> 05:07:29,420
I will move it as is, would

7073
05:07:29,420 --> 05:07:31,210
love to work with commissioner

7074
05:07:31,210 --> 05:07:32,957
lopez office to make sure we

7075
05:07:32,957 --> 05:07:35,357
remedy the record-keeping at

7076
05:07:39,329 --> 05:07:41,329
some point.

7077
05:07:42,232 --> 05:07:42,665
>>chair: clerk please call the

7078
05:07:42,665 --> 05:07:44,665
roll.

7079
05:07:47,437 --> 05:07:47,570
>>chair: we don't have a quorum

7080
05:07:47,570 --> 05:07:49,570
.

7081
05:07:51,274 --> 05:07:53,242
>>chair: second by commissioner

7082
05:07:53,242 --> 05:07:55,477
cohen higgins, call the roll,

7083
05:07:55,477 --> 05:07:57,477
commissioner hardemon.

7084
05:07:57,479 --> 05:07:59,879
>>commissioner hardemon: is the

7085
05:08:02,717 --> 05:08:04,686
amendment accepted?

7086
05:08:04,686 --> 05:08:05,887
But they are required to do it

7087
05:08:05,887 --> 05:08:08,122
right now, they are required to

7088
05:08:08,122 --> 05:08:10,570
keep records now.

7089
05:08:10,570 --> 05:08:13,570
>>chair: you MAY, yes, just

7090
05:08:14,729 --> 05:08:15,896
answer.

7091
05:08:15,896 --> 05:08:17,864
>> there is no requirement

7092
05:08:17,864 --> 05:08:19,933
under state law for companies

7093
05:08:19,933 --> 05:08:21,768
selling under this exemption to

7094
05:08:21,768 --> 05:08:24,768
keep any records at all.

7095
05:08:28,140 --> 05:08:30,430
Relating to this.

7096
05:08:30,430 --> 05:08:33,430
>> how are you removing it

7097
05:08:45,791 --> 05:08:47,791
then?

7098
05:08:47,793 --> 05:08:48,960
>>commissioner hardemon: I will

7099
05:08:48,960 --> 05:08:50,829
allow commissioner lopez to

7100
05:08:50,829 --> 05:08:52,797
engage further because as I

7101
05:08:52,797 --> 05:08:53,998
understand if they are allowed

7102
05:08:53,998 --> 05:08:55,867
now and I have an issue with

7103
05:08:55,867 --> 05:08:57,350
keeping the record because in

7104
05:08:57,350 --> 05:08:58,870
the district I represent we

7105
05:08:58,870 --> 05:09:00,805
have a lot of things that go

7106
05:09:00,805 --> 05:09:01,939
bang in the middle of the night

7107
05:09:01,939 --> 05:09:02,773
that cause great injury to

7108
05:09:02,773 --> 05:09:04,773
people.

7109
05:09:04,775 --> 05:09:07,811
And we have a proliferation of

7110
05:09:07,811 --> 05:09:09,746
tenants that are put up and

7111
05:09:09,746 --> 05:09:11,681
they sell what is deemed to be

7112
05:09:11,681 --> 05:09:13,516
fireworks or explosive devices.

7113
05:09:13,516 --> 05:09:15,351
So it's a mystery for me as an

7114
05:09:15,351 --> 05:09:17,353
individual and the people who

7115
05:09:17,353 --> 05:09:20,656
live in the community to have

7116
05:09:20,656 --> 05:09:22,592
to deal with this especially

7117
05:09:22,592 --> 05:09:24,992
having these illegal things

7118
05:09:26,662 --> 05:09:28,497
that go bang in the night if

7119
05:09:28,497 --> 05:09:30,320
that's your technical

7120
05:09:30,320 --> 05:09:33,320
definition but people use them

7121
05:09:33,602 --> 05:09:35,536
in ways in which they are

7122
05:09:35,536 --> 05:09:36,671
deleterious to our community

7123
05:09:36,671 --> 05:09:38,606
because they throw them at

7124
05:09:38,606 --> 05:09:38,840
houses, cars and things of that

7125
05:09:38,840 --> 05:09:40,608
nature.

7126
05:09:40,608 --> 05:09:44,208
If we knew where they were

7127
05:09:49,830 --> 05:09:50,317
buying them from or we knew

7128
05:09:50,317 --> 05:09:52,218
people selling these things

7129
05:09:52,218 --> 05:09:54,870
that go bang in the middle of

7130
05:09:54,870 --> 05:09:56,550
the night if they kept proper

7131
05:09:56,550 --> 05:09:57,557
record we checked those records

7132
05:09:57,557 --> 05:09:59,580
because I was told the fire

7133
05:09:59,580 --> 05:10:00,326
department checks but if they

7134
05:10:00,326 --> 05:10:01,261
are checking it doesn't really

7135
05:10:01,261 --> 05:10:03,229
do us any good.

7136
05:10:03,229 --> 05:10:03,396
This part of it really concerns

7137
05:10:03,396 --> 05:10:05,231
me.

7138
05:10:05,231 --> 05:10:07,660
I too share the same sentiment

7139
05:10:07,660 --> 05:10:10,403
that MISS Lopez shares and I

7140
05:10:10,403 --> 05:10:10,603
want to have that added to

7141
05:10:10,603 --> 05:10:12,603
this.

7142
05:10:15,908 --> 05:10:16,410
>>chair: commissioner steinberg

7143
05:10:16,410 --> 05:10:17,909
.

7144
05:10:17,909 --> 05:10:19,770
>>commissioner steinberg: I

7145
05:10:19,770 --> 05:10:21,120
understand this is 1% of the

7146
05:10:21,120 --> 05:10:24,120
overall item, however I don't

7147
05:10:27,618 --> 05:10:30,521
know that it's, I haven't heard

7148
05:10:30,521 --> 05:10:30,788
we are absolutely preempted or

7149
05:10:30,788 --> 05:10:32,723
required.

7150
05:10:32,723 --> 05:10:32,890
i haven't heard that.

7151
05:10:32,890 --> 05:10:34,890
Would

7152
05:10:35,593 --> 05:10:38,829
say we keep it in their.

7153
05:10:38,829 --> 05:10:42,429
And you know, let them figure

7154
05:10:43,320 --> 05:10:45,320
it out.

7155
05:10:45,350 --> 05:10:48,350
But what is tallahassee going

7156
05:10:54,430 --> 05:10:55,440
to do, I'm asking for

7157
05:10:55,440 --> 05:10:56,312
record-keeping.

7158
05:10:56,312 --> 05:10:57,246
>>commissioner gonzalez: can I

7159
05:10:57,246 --> 05:10:59,480
be recognized?

7160
05:10:59,480 --> 05:11:00,282
I'm not opposed to it.

7161
05:11:00,282 --> 05:11:03,180
I mean, I would like to leave

7162
05:11:03,180 --> 05:11:07,218
it in but I'm deferring to the

7163
05:11:08,890 --> 05:11:10,890
county attorney's office.

7164
05:11:10,910 --> 05:11:12,920
>>commissioner regalado: if I

7165
05:11:12,920 --> 05:11:14,610
could proffer a solution we all

7166
05:11:14,610 --> 05:11:15,263
agree is not expressed but

7167
05:11:15,263 --> 05:11:16,564
that's their legal opinion so

7168
05:11:16,564 --> 05:11:18,232
I'd tell you to leave it in.

7169
05:11:18,232 --> 05:11:21,232
You could maintain or enhance

7170
05:11:22,603 --> 05:11:24,271
reporting unless expressly

7171
05:11:24,271 --> 05:11:24,438
prohibited by existing state

7172
05:11:24,438 --> 05:11:26,438
law.

7173
05:11:28,207 --> 05:11:30,760
And then your good.

7174
05:11:30,760 --> 05:11:30,677
Because if it's expressly

7175
05:11:30,677 --> 05:11:33,213
prohibited by state law, but

7176
05:11:33,213 --> 05:11:35,613
give yourself the flexibility

7177
05:11:38,150 --> 05:11:40,553
of being able to do that.

7178
05:11:40,553 --> 05:11:44,153
>>chair: cho it amended and I

7179
05:11:48,526 --> 05:11:50,428
will call commissioner lopez.

7180
05:11:50,428 --> 05:11:52,828
Seconded, it was already

7181
05:11:54,799 --> 05:11:56,340
seconded I guess.

7182
05:11:56,340 --> 05:11:57,869
>>commissioner bermudez: I

7183
05:11:57,869 --> 05:12:00,869
agree with the amendment and

7184
05:12:02,390 --> 05:12:04,700
also commissioner lopez.

7185
05:12:04,700 --> 05:12:05,208
>> we are including it with the

7186
05:12:05,208 --> 05:12:06,110
caveat as long as it's allowed

7187
05:12:06,110 --> 05:12:08,110
by the state.

7188
05:12:11,782 --> 05:12:13,490
For as long as it's legal.

7189
05:12:13,490 --> 05:12:15,490
>>commissioner regalado: as

7190
05:12:15,819 --> 05:12:17,253
long as it's not expressly

7191
05:12:17,253 --> 05:12:20,253
prohibited, it has to be

7192
05:12:26,862 --> 05:12:28,831
expressly prohibited.

7193
05:12:28,831 --> 05:12:30,365
>>commissioner bermudez: the

7194
05:12:30,365 --> 05:12:32,340
governor and his buddies can do

7195
05:12:32,340 --> 05:12:33,969
a lot of things so I've got to

7196
05:12:33,969 --> 05:12:35,837
make sure it's expressly stated

7197
05:12:35,837 --> 05:12:37,105
here that it allowed, we have a

7198
05:12:37,105 --> 05:12:38,840
former state representative

7199
05:12:38,840 --> 05:12:40,750
here and if she feels

7200
05:12:40,750 --> 05:12:42,100
comfortable I will be more than

7201
05:12:42,100 --> 05:12:44,845
happy to support it I have the

7202
05:12:44,845 --> 05:12:46,800
same concerns as commissioner

7203
05:12:46,800 --> 05:12:48,150
hardemon and that commissioner

7204
05:12:48,150 --> 05:12:49,917
lopez had which is if it's not

7205
05:12:49,917 --> 05:12:51,852
there, okay, that's fine but

7206
05:12:51,852 --> 05:12:53,821
just to be clear because it

7207
05:12:53,821 --> 05:12:54,821
comes to tallahassee doesn't

7208
05:12:54,821 --> 05:12:56,821
make it right.

7209
05:12:56,823 --> 05:12:57,240
>>chair: clerk please call the

7210
05:12:57,240 --> 05:12:57,991
roll.

7211
05:12:57,991 --> 05:12:59,991
No, no.

7212
05:13:04,563 --> 05:13:06,566
Hold on, it's gilbert.

7213
05:13:06,566 --> 05:13:07,834
>>commissioner gilbert: I'm

7214
05:13:07,834 --> 05:13:09,635
curious because when this issue

7215
05:13:09,635 --> 05:13:11,570
was put to me earlier I asked

7216
05:13:11,570 --> 05:13:12,771
the attorney about that vary

7217
05:13:12,771 --> 05:13:14,540
solution and the attorney's

7218
05:13:14,540 --> 05:13:15,741
office I think had a problem

7219
05:13:15,741 --> 05:13:17,543
with that as a solution.

7220
05:13:17,543 --> 05:13:19,943
Because it wasn't that

7221
05:13:20,178 --> 05:13:22,113
difficult to get to.

7222
05:13:22,113 --> 05:13:23,348
So I asked about that solution

7223
05:13:23,348 --> 05:13:25,250
and they had a problem so I

7224
05:13:25,250 --> 05:13:27,118
want to make sure we are clear

7225
05:13:27,118 --> 05:13:28,286
and I don't know whether part

7226
05:13:28,286 --> 05:13:31,286
of the language they read

7227
05:13:34,558 --> 05:13:36,493
didn't say if there was

7228
05:13:36,493 --> 05:13:38,495
preempted but we are being told

7229
05:13:38,495 --> 05:13:39,730
we are preempting so is there a

7230
05:13:39,730 --> 05:13:41,632
general preemption with regard

7231
05:13:41,632 --> 05:13:42,499
to fireworks or what is the

7232
05:13:42,499 --> 05:13:44,499
preemption?

7233
05:13:45,702 --> 05:13:46,136
There is preemptive language

7234
05:13:46,136 --> 05:13:47,704
somewhere.

7235
05:13:47,704 --> 05:13:48,905
Where is the preemptive

7236
05:13:48,905 --> 05:13:51,305
language because I'm pretty

7237
05:14:01,216 --> 05:14:01,383
sure they're not just making it

7238
05:14:01,383 --> 05:14:02,784
up.

7239
05:14:02,784 --> 05:14:04,419
>> there is language, if I MAY.

7240
05:14:04,419 --> 05:14:06,321
Nytime that we take action

7241
05:14:06,321 --> 05:14:06,655
or we put something in code

7242
05:14:06,655 --> 05:14:08,223
there is risk.

7243
05:14:08,223 --> 05:14:09,424
Here is no

7244
05:14:09,424 --> 05:14:11,393
express preemption on this in

7245
05:14:11,393 --> 05:14:13,227
our opinion, there is language

7246
05:14:13,227 --> 05:14:15,229
in the statute that says a

7247
05:14:15,229 --> 05:14:16,397
county or municipality cannot

7248
05:14:16,397 --> 05:14:18,299
directly interfere with the

7249
05:14:18,299 --> 05:14:20,233
city on fireworks, that is in

7250
05:14:20,233 --> 05:14:21,769
statute, whether record-keeping

7251
05:14:21,769 --> 05:14:24,838
falls into that relation is an

7252
05:14:24,838 --> 05:14:26,106
open question.

7253
05:14:26,106 --> 05:14:27,841
>>commissioner gilbert: thank

7254
05:14:27,841 --> 05:14:27,975
you commissioner lopez.

7255
05:14:27,975 --> 05:14:29,843
Hat's

7256
05:14:29,843 --> 05:14:31,843
not a preemption.

7257
05:14:35,314 --> 05:14:36,315
That's not a preemption to

7258
05:14:36,315 --> 05:14:37,483
record-keeping.

7259
05:14:37,483 --> 05:14:39,252
This sale is not a preemption,

7260
05:14:39,252 --> 05:14:41,652
that shouldn't be acknowledged

7261
05:14:43,255 --> 05:14:43,422
so I think we can hand it back

7262
05:14:43,422 --> 05:14:45,422
in.

7263
05:14:50,662 --> 05:14:51,630
>>chair: clerk call the roll.

7264
05:14:51,630 --> 05:14:53,630
As excluded.

7265
05:14:54,366 --> 05:14:56,367
Clerk call the roll please.

7266
05:14:56,367 --> 05:14:58,367
>>commissioner regalado:

7267
05:14:58,369 --> 05:15:00,369
>>commissioner steinberg:

7268
05:15:00,471 --> 05:15:02,471
>>commissioner bermudez: as

7269
05:15:02,673 --> 05:15:03,407
amended as commissioner

7270
05:15:03,407 --> 05:15:05,407
steinberg said.

7271
05:15:05,409 --> 05:15:07,409
>>commissioner lopez:

7272
05:15:08,779 --> 05:15:10,581
>>senator garcia: aye.

7273
05:15:10,581 --> 05:15:12,581
>>commissioner gilbert:

7274
05:15:13,216 --> 05:15:15,185
>>commissioner gonzalez:

7275
05:15:15,185 --> 05:15:16,286
>>commissioner hardemon: for as

7276
05:15:16,286 --> 05:15:18,188
amended.

7277
05:15:18,188 --> 05:15:20,188
>>commissioner lopez:

7278
05:15:21,900 --> 05:15:23,590
>>commissioner milian orbis:

7279
05:15:23,590 --> 05:15:24,293
>>vice chair mcghee: yes, as

7280
05:15:24,293 --> 05:15:24,560
included according to nikki

7281
05:15:24,560 --> 05:15:26,495
steinberg.

7282
05:15:26,495 --> 05:15:28,895
>>chair: I vote yes.

7283
05:15:41,776 --> 05:15:43,745
>> motion passes unanimously.

7284
05:15:43,745 --> 05:15:45,713
>>commissioner bermudez: can I

7285
05:15:45,713 --> 05:15:46,947
release, my question about

7286
05:15:46,947 --> 05:15:49,717
square footage was answered, we

7287
05:15:49,717 --> 05:15:50,918
will talk about that later.

7288
05:15:50,918 --> 05:15:52,918
>>commissioner regalado: I

7289
05:15:52,987 --> 05:15:54,210
would like to release 2.

7290
05:15:54,210 --> 05:15:54,888
>>chair: are you guys leaving

7291
05:15:54,888 --> 05:15:56,888
or something?

7292
05:15:59,192 --> 05:16:01,192
So 7f.

7293
05:16:01,261 --> 05:16:02,162
Does the director need to read

7294
05:16:02,162 --> 05:16:03,363
anything?

7295
05:16:03,363 --> 05:16:03,997
Anything needs to be read on

7296
05:16:03,997 --> 05:16:05,997
the record?

7297
05:16:09,635 --> 05:16:09,802
Public hearing has already been

7298
05:16:09,802 --> 05:16:11,670
had.

7299
05:16:11,670 --> 05:16:13,172
Motion to approve, all right, i

7300
05:16:13,172 --> 05:16:15,172
have a motion.

7301
05:16:21,646 --> 05:16:24,646
Motion to reset, hold on.

7302
05:16:25,383 --> 05:16:29,583
>> I want to clarify, I have a

7303
05:16:32,123 --> 05:16:34,123
tooth fusing stat.

7304
05:16:34,992 --> 05:16:36,594
>>chair: what do you want to do

7305
05:16:36,594 --> 05:16:38,594
first?

7306
05:16:38,628 --> 05:16:41,280
>> I defer to commissioner

7307
05:16:45,902 --> 05:16:47,137
bermudez.

7308
05:16:47,137 --> 05:16:48,872
>>chair: there is a motion to

7309
05:16:48,872 --> 05:16:49,873
move the item, gilbert

7310
05:16:49,873 --> 05:16:51,873
seconded.

7311
05:16:56,512 --> 05:16:58,481
Commissioner steinberg.

7312
05:16:58,481 --> 05:16:59,949
>>commissioner steinberg: I was

7313
05:16:59,949 --> 05:17:01,583
saying at the conclusion of

7314
05:17:01,583 --> 05:17:01,884
this item I would like to be

7315
05:17:01,884 --> 05:17:03,884
recognized.

7316
05:17:08,924 --> 05:17:10,425
>> my understanding is it's a

7317
05:17:10,425 --> 05:17:11,593
motion to approve the staff

7318
05:17:11,593 --> 05:17:13,595
report and changes reference

7319
05:17:13,595 --> 05:17:15,330
with exceptions for covenant.

7320
05:17:15,330 --> 05:17:17,198
And standard conditions that

7321
05:17:17,198 --> 05:17:18,432
the applicant would be prepared

7322
05:17:18,432 --> 05:17:20,635
to submit the executed covenant

7323
05:17:20,635 --> 05:17:20,835
and sufficient opinion of

7324
05:17:20,835 --> 05:17:22,803
title.

7325
05:17:22,803 --> 05:17:25,203
Any necessary rejoinders within

7326
05:17:30,444 --> 05:17:31,645
seven days of the application.

7327
05:17:31,645 --> 05:17:34,470
>>chair: that's one motion for

7328
05:17:34,470 --> 05:17:36,470
the supplements.

7329
05:17:36,490 --> 05:17:37,160
All right, so it's been moved,

7330
05:17:37,160 --> 05:17:39,160
it's been seconded.

7331
05:17:39,652 --> 05:17:40,653
T

7332
05:17:40,653 --> 05:17:41,921
commissioner.

7333
05:17:41,921 --> 05:17:44,321
>>commissioner regalado: I want

7334
05:17:44,623 --> 05:17:48,223
to clarify a few things with

7335
05:17:52,864 --> 05:17:54,132
staff because we've made

7336
05:17:54,132 --> 05:17:56,340
changes to the application and

7337
05:17:56,340 --> 05:17:57,869
get something on the record so

7338
05:17:57,869 --> 05:17:59,103
I want to thank everyone that

7339
05:17:59,103 --> 05:18:00,938
came out and has reached out to

7340
05:18:00,938 --> 05:18:04,475
talk about this, I want to

7341
05:18:04,475 --> 05:18:05,610
thank the applicant in its

7342
05:18:05,610 --> 05:18:07,511
current form it is best in

7343
05:18:07,511 --> 05:18:08,679
class in terms of wetland

7344
05:18:08,679 --> 05:18:10,514
protection and for the folks

7345
05:18:10,514 --> 05:18:14,114
who have spoken against this I

7346
05:18:21,825 --> 05:18:22,825
want to say concern is not

7347
05:18:22,825 --> 05:18:24,260
conservation.

7348
05:18:24,260 --> 05:18:25,828
Talking about preserving

7349
05:18:25,828 --> 05:18:26,963
wetlands and actually

7350
05:18:26,963 --> 05:18:28,831
preserving wetlands are two

7351
05:18:28,831 --> 05:18:30,320
very different things.

7352
05:18:30,320 --> 05:18:31,834
The covenant does the second

7353
05:18:31,834 --> 05:18:33,836
one and that's why

7354
05:18:33,836 --> 05:18:34,360
uncomfortable supporting it

7355
05:18:34,360 --> 05:18:35,837
today.

7356
05:18:35,837 --> 05:18:37,839
It puts 80 acres of wetlands

7357
05:18:37,839 --> 05:18:39,841
into public ownership on any

7358
05:18:39,841 --> 05:18:41,843
new program permanently with

7359
05:18:41,843 --> 05:18:43,845
the money to maintain it and it

7360
05:18:43,845 --> 05:18:45,813
does it on the record with an

7361
05:18:45,813 --> 05:18:46,948
enforceable instrument only

7362
05:18:46,948 --> 05:18:48,950
this board can change.

7363
05:18:48,950 --> 05:18:50,918
The designation based on the

7364
05:18:50,918 --> 05:18:52,819
wetland protection is a wish

7365
05:18:52,819 --> 05:18:54,210
and a parcel with an owner,

7366
05:18:54,210 --> 05:18:55,923
maintenance plan in perpetuity

7367
05:18:55,923 --> 05:18:57,925
and funding mechanism is a

7368
05:18:57,925 --> 05:18:59,826
management plan and that's what

7369
05:18:59,826 --> 05:19:00,270
we need here is a management

7370
05:19:00,270 --> 05:19:01,828
plan.

7371
05:19:01,828 --> 05:19:03,290
This land is not christine,

7372
05:19:03,290 --> 05:19:04,964
commissioner cohen higgins has

7373
05:19:04,964 --> 05:19:07,233
told us time and again, part of

7374
05:19:07,233 --> 05:19:08,401
it is under covenant, city and

7375
05:19:08,401 --> 05:19:10,203
privately held with no public

7376
05:19:10,203 --> 05:19:12,238
assets and no dedicated

7377
05:19:12,238 --> 05:19:13,406
maintenance dollars, the rest

7378
05:19:13,406 --> 05:19:15,241
is being torn up by atvs every

7379
05:19:15,241 --> 05:19:16,342
weekend and nobody is

7380
05:19:16,342 --> 05:19:17,209
accountable for the damage

7381
05:19:17,209 --> 05:19:18,410
being done.

7382
05:19:18,410 --> 05:19:20,379
Last time we talked about this

7383
05:19:20,379 --> 05:19:22,213
we had so many people speak on

7384
05:19:22,213 --> 05:19:23,382
it and I wanted to give an

7385
05:19:23,382 --> 05:19:26,382
example that drives home what

7386
05:19:27,552 --> 05:19:29,487
condition this land is in.

7387
05:19:29,487 --> 05:19:30,588
So I offer to you the exempt

7388
05:19:30,588 --> 05:19:31,556
item, bird island is a

7389
05:19:31,556 --> 05:19:33,556
cautionary tale.

7390
05:19:34,491 --> 05:19:36,493
Nobody disputes it deserves

7391
05:19:36,493 --> 05:19:38,462
protection, and it's being this

7392
05:19:38,462 --> 05:19:40,497
void anyway by jet skis because

7393
05:19:40,497 --> 05:19:42,897
protection without funding and

7394
05:19:45,535 --> 05:19:46,769
enforcement is dust a talking

7395
05:19:46,769 --> 05:19:48,638
point and not preservation.

7396
05:19:48,638 --> 05:19:50,573
What this application does

7397
05:19:50,573 --> 05:19:51,974
after our amendments I think is

7398
05:19:51,974 --> 05:19:54,374
very important to highlight.

7399
05:20:10,425 --> 05:20:12,327
We are talking about 63 acres

7400
05:20:12,327 --> 05:20:14,262
preserved on site, right of way

7401
05:20:14,262 --> 05:20:15,463
does not count towards it, if a

7402
05:20:15,463 --> 05:20:17,365
road or expressly eats into it

7403
05:20:17,365 --> 05:20:18,233
we have to add acreage on the

7404
05:20:18,233 --> 05:20:20,233
property.

7405
05:20:20,234 --> 05:20:21,402
Of these 21 acres are preserved

7406
05:20:21,402 --> 05:20:23,304
off-site and when we talked

7407
05:20:23,304 --> 05:20:24,405
about mitigation credits we

7408
05:20:24,405 --> 05:20:26,307
changed it so it would be

7409
05:20:26,307 --> 05:20:28,242
within miami-dade county and

7410
05:20:28,242 --> 05:20:29,409
this doesn't end up somewhere

7411
05:20:29,409 --> 05:20:31,809
else, conveyance is important

7412
05:20:33,380 --> 05:20:35,215
in terms of the program and at

7413
05:20:35,215 --> 05:20:37,584
no cost to the county because

7414
05:20:37,584 --> 05:20:37,884
it comes with maintenance in

7415
05:20:37,884 --> 05:20:39,419
perpetuity.

7416
05:20:39,419 --> 05:20:41,454
I don't think moving forward we

7417
05:20:41,454 --> 05:20:43,222
have should have conversations

7418
05:20:43,222 --> 05:20:44,390
about wetlands without

7419
05:20:44,390 --> 05:20:46,225
including ownership of these

7420
05:20:46,225 --> 05:20:48,227
wetlands and if there's

7421
05:20:48,227 --> 05:20:50,229
anything we've learned time and

7422
05:20:50,229 --> 05:20:52,231
again that a covenant is just

7423
05:20:52,231 --> 05:20:54,232
that, something someone can

7424
05:20:54,232 --> 05:20:55,233
overturn but the ownership is

7425
05:20:55,233 --> 05:20:56,435
something that is

7426
05:20:56,435 --> 05:20:58,369
transformative and a standard

7427
05:20:58,369 --> 05:21:00,305
we should move forward.

7428
05:21:00,305 --> 05:21:02,240
One of the things included on

7429
05:21:02,240 --> 05:21:02,540
here that is important is a

7430
05:21:02,540 --> 05:21:04,308
conveyance.

7431
05:21:04,308 --> 05:21:06,277
This is not a promise but

7432
05:21:06,277 --> 05:21:07,444
something we will hold them to

7433
05:21:07,444 --> 05:21:09,413
before they open their doors.

7434
05:21:09,413 --> 05:21:11,382
We have a funding mechanism

7435
05:21:11,382 --> 05:21:13,250
that funds maintenance and we

7436
05:21:13,250 --> 05:21:14,351
know we have issues with eo, I

7437
05:21:14,351 --> 05:21:15,252
look forward to that

7438
05:21:15,252 --> 05:21:16,520
conversation.

7439
05:21:16,520 --> 05:21:18,388
We're going to maintain it in

7440
05:21:18,388 --> 05:21:20,323
its natural state free of any

7441
05:21:20,323 --> 05:21:22,359
exotic vegetation under the

7442
05:21:22,359 --> 05:21:22,692
maintenance plan or er would

7443
05:21:22,692 --> 05:21:24,260
approve that.

7444
05:21:24,260 --> 05:21:26,229
We have illegally a

7445
05:21:26,229 --> 05:21:27,563
conservation easement

7446
05:21:27,563 --> 05:21:28,431
requirement for the

7447
05:21:28,431 --> 05:21:30,499
preservation area pursuant to

7448
05:21:30,499 --> 05:21:31,467
section 204.06 of florida

7449
05:21:31,467 --> 05:21:33,867
statute and the preservation

7450
05:21:34,236 --> 05:21:34,536
area is carved out for district

7451
05:21:34,536 --> 05:21:36,238
boundaries.

7452
05:21:36,238 --> 05:21:38,240
We've also dealt with the

7453
05:21:38,240 --> 05:21:41,240
possibility of it being an

7454
05:21:41,643 --> 05:21:42,944
archaeological site and

7455
05:21:42,944 --> 05:21:45,646
confirmed that there's going to

7456
05:21:45,646 --> 05:21:46,781
be no physical alterations to

7457
05:21:46,781 --> 05:21:47,882
that piece that was one of the

7458
05:21:47,882 --> 05:21:49,751
requirements I think was

7459
05:21:49,751 --> 05:21:51,652
mindful and this is the first

7460
05:21:51,652 --> 05:21:53,654
time we approved a wildlife

7461
05:21:53,654 --> 05:21:53,954
underpass, I think it's very

7462
05:21:53,954 --> 05:21:55,790
thoughtful.

7463
05:21:55,790 --> 05:21:57,625
We spent a lot of time figuring

7464
05:21:57,625 --> 05:21:58,826
out how to do it but I think

7465
05:21:58,826 --> 05:22:00,727
moving forward it's something

7466
05:22:00,727 --> 05:22:02,762
we will be able to require in

7467
05:22:02,762 --> 05:22:04,631
future applications and you can

7468
05:22:04,631 --> 05:22:05,865
check that out in exhibit e.

7469
05:22:05,865 --> 05:22:07,800
The offset acreage goes first

7470
05:22:07,800 --> 05:22:09,636
to the north trail basin second

7471
05:22:09,636 --> 05:22:10,837
to the tribe basin, priority

7472
05:22:10,837 --> 05:22:11,638
order keeps the land under

7473
05:22:11,638 --> 05:22:13,638
lease.

7474
05:22:13,673 --> 05:22:15,541
We've talked so much about this

7475
05:22:15,541 --> 05:22:19,141
and with this ownership we can

7476
05:22:27,653 --> 05:22:28,821
go to the government and talk

7477
05:22:28,821 --> 05:22:30,757
about this and not just wish

7478
05:22:30,757 --> 05:22:31,910
the federal government will

7479
05:22:31,910 --> 05:22:32,659
give us money.

7480
05:22:32,659 --> 05:22:33,927
O one of the

7481
05:22:33,927 --> 05:22:35,862
things we also talked about is

7482
05:22:35,862 --> 05:22:36,762
not exporting our mitigation

7483
05:22:36,762 --> 05:22:38,664
anywhere else.

7484
05:22:38,664 --> 05:22:40,667
We have a signed and sealed

7485
05:22:40,667 --> 05:22:41,801
master plan, threatened and

7486
05:22:41,801 --> 05:22:43,670
endangered species survey

7487
05:22:43,670 --> 05:22:44,771
before any permit or

7488
05:22:44,771 --> 05:22:45,380
development order were

7489
05:22:45,380 --> 05:22:46,873
reviewed.

7490
05:22:46,873 --> 05:22:48,808
The full site plan review for

7491
05:22:48,808 --> 05:22:50,678
the property in all phases

7492
05:22:50,678 --> 05:22:51,812
before any new permits which I

7493
05:22:51,812 --> 05:22:54,812
think is important and no

7494
05:22:56,149 --> 05:22:57,317
commercial vehicle restored

7495
05:22:57,317 --> 05:22:59,252
within 25 feet of wetlands.

7496
05:22:59,252 --> 05:23:01,155
There is no residential units

7497
05:23:01,155 --> 05:23:02,623
except for one unit for

7498
05:23:02,623 --> 05:23:05,230
maintenance and security and

7499
05:23:06,894 --> 05:23:08,795
the ratio is.5.

7500
05:23:08,795 --> 05:23:10,300
the covenant runs with the land

7501
05:23:10,300 --> 05:23:11,999
for 30 years auto renewing and

7502
05:23:11,999 --> 05:23:14,100
it can only but be modified by

7503
05:23:14,100 --> 05:23:17,601
this board and the county can

7504
05:23:24,440 --> 05:23:25,947
pull permits if it is violated,

7505
05:23:25,947 --> 05:23:27,881
that addresses a lot of the

7506
05:23:27,881 --> 05:23:28,983
concerns we have as to what's

7507
05:23:28,983 --> 05:23:30,885
happened not in this

7508
05:23:30,885 --> 05:23:32,885
application what other

7509
05:23:32,887 --> 05:23:34,356
applications and beyond the

7510
05:23:34,356 --> 05:23:35,857
environmental protections we

7511
05:23:35,857 --> 05:23:37,859
will also add some very

7512
05:23:37,859 --> 05:23:39,600
thoughtful protections for our

7513
05:23:39,600 --> 05:23:41,630
county for all our residents

7514
05:23:41,630 --> 05:23:42,864
and I'm proud of the workforce

7515
05:23:42,864 --> 05:23:43,965
training including neuro-

7516
05:23:43,965 --> 05:23:45,901
divergent students and

7517
05:23:45,901 --> 05:23:48,301
emergency access to heavy

7518
05:23:51,573 --> 05:23:53,542
equipment is a game changer.

7519
05:23:53,542 --> 05:23:54,642
I was in broward talking with

7520
05:23:54,642 --> 05:23:56,578
some folks and they had an

7521
05:23:56,578 --> 05:23:58,446
issue with this, broward wanted

7522
05:23:58,446 --> 05:24:00,449
to know why miami-dade was

7523
05:24:00,449 --> 05:24:01,817
going to have better access to

7524
05:24:01,817 --> 05:24:03,452
kelly but during a declared

7525
05:24:03,452 --> 05:24:05,452
emergency miami-dade county

7526
05:24:05,454 --> 05:24:06,688
gets access and first priority

7527
05:24:06,688 --> 05:24:08,557
access to the tractors, not

7528
05:24:08,557 --> 05:24:10,460
their contractors, not their

7529
05:24:10,460 --> 05:24:12,462
vendors, miami dade county,

7530
05:24:12,462 --> 05:24:13,663
this is heavy equipment on the

7531
05:24:13,663 --> 05:24:15,598
ground the day after a storm

7532
05:24:15,598 --> 05:24:17,466
this is something that will be

7533
05:24:17,466 --> 05:24:18,434
important as we deal with

7534
05:24:18,434 --> 05:24:19,601
natural disasters.

7535
05:24:19,601 --> 05:24:21,504
The last thing is there is

7536
05:24:21,504 --> 05:24:25,104
another property in one of the

7537
05:24:31,470 --> 05:24:33,160
additions that's mindful given

7538
05:24:33,160 --> 05:24:34,984
what has happened to this board

7539
05:24:34,984 --> 05:24:36,819
in recent history in terms of

7540
05:24:36,819 --> 05:24:37,954
ownership of parcels that MAY

7541
05:24:37,954 --> 05:24:39,822
meet our expansion, before

7542
05:24:39,822 --> 05:24:41,240
listing the current

7543
05:24:41,240 --> 05:24:42,826
headquarters which is 41 x 24

7544
05:24:42,826 --> 05:24:43,960
acres plus the 9.43 acres

7545
05:24:43,960 --> 05:24:45,895
adjacent to the parcel,

7546
05:24:45,895 --> 05:24:47,797
miami-dade county mayor will be

7547
05:24:47,797 --> 05:24:49,832
giving notice at 120 days and

7548
05:24:49,832 --> 05:24:51,101
copying for the listing, that's

7549
05:24:51,101 --> 05:24:53,103
important what's happened to us

7550
05:24:53,103 --> 05:24:55,400
that we are also modifying this

7551
05:24:55,400 --> 05:24:56,806
to include if that property

7552
05:24:56,806 --> 05:24:58,700
does move forward miami-dade

7553
05:24:58,700 --> 05:24:59,800
county has the ability to

7554
05:24:59,800 --> 05:25:00,945
purchase that first.

7555
05:25:00,945 --> 05:25:03,814
So I think all these changes

7556
05:25:03,814 --> 05:25:05,480
have dramatically changed this

7557
05:25:05,480 --> 05:25:06,950
application and I hope everyone

7558
05:25:06,950 --> 05:25:08,919
will consider what staff has to

7559
05:25:08,919 --> 05:25:09,986
say and how different it was

7560
05:25:09,986 --> 05:25:11,889
from what was first proposed

7561
05:25:11,889 --> 05:25:13,891
but I'm happy to support it.

7562
05:25:13,891 --> 05:25:15,920
>>chair: clerk, please call the

7563
05:25:15,920 --> 05:25:16,860
roll.

7564
05:25:16,860 --> 05:25:18,829
>>commissioner steinberg: no.

7565
05:25:18,829 --> 05:25:20,829
>>commissioner bermudez: yes.

7566
05:25:20,831 --> 05:25:21,933
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

7567
05:25:21,933 --> 05:25:22,834
vote no.

7568
05:25:22,834 --> 05:25:24,834
>>senator garcia:

7569
05:25:24,836 --> 05:25:26,804
>>commissioner gilbert: yes.

7570
05:25:26,804 --> 05:25:28,804
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.

7571
05:25:28,805 --> 05:25:30,805
>>commissioner hardemon:

7572
05:25:30,842 --> 05:25:32,842
>>commissioner lopez: no.

7573
05:25:33,378 --> 05:25:35,378
>>commissioner milian orbis:

7574
05:25:36,347 --> 05:25:38,347
>>commissioner regalado: yes.

7575
05:25:38,950 --> 05:25:40,950
>>commissioner bastien: yes.

7576
05:25:43,287 --> 05:25:45,287
>>chair: yes.

7577
05:25:47,425 --> 05:25:49,425
>> motion passes 9 3.

7578
05:25:49,460 --> 05:25:51,460
>>chair: congratulations, you

7579
05:25:57,769 --> 05:25:58,970
MAY be recognized.

7580
05:25:58,970 --> 05:26:00,806
>>commissioner steinberg: I

7581
05:26:00,806 --> 05:26:02,741
have a motion I would like the

7582
05:26:02,741 --> 05:26:03,842
attorney to read into the

7583
05:26:03,842 --> 05:26:04,176
record and it's not just

7584
05:26:04,176 --> 05:26:06,176
general funds.

7585
05:26:06,745 --> 05:26:09,745
>>chair: redraw motion onto the

7586
05:26:15,154 --> 05:26:17,154
record.

7587
05:26:17,389 --> 05:26:19,258
>> commissioner steinberg moves

7588
05:26:19,258 --> 05:26:21,126
to direct the county mayor's

7589
05:26:21,126 --> 05:26:22,196
designee to conduct a wetlands

7590
05:26:22,196 --> 05:26:24,129
study to accomplish the

7591
05:26:24,129 --> 05:26:25,330
following goals, one quantify

7592
05:26:25,330 --> 05:26:27,165
and qualify wetland values, to

7593
05:26:27,165 --> 05:26:29,134
evaluate the efficacy of

7594
05:26:29,134 --> 05:26:30,337
regulations intended to protect

7595
05:26:30,337 --> 05:26:32,305
wetland systems, analyze the

7596
05:26:32,305 --> 05:26:34,307
value of functions including

7597
05:26:34,307 --> 05:26:36,408
but not limited to ecosystem

7598
05:26:36,408 --> 05:26:37,577
aquifer recharge, water supply

7599
05:26:37,577 --> 05:26:38,711
and flood mitigation among

7600
05:26:38,711 --> 05:26:40,647
others as well as whether

7601
05:26:40,647 --> 05:26:42,582
particular geographic areas MAY

7602
05:26:42,582 --> 05:26:46,182
be needed to carry out any

7603
05:26:51,859 --> 05:26:53,726
particular benefit or function

7604
05:26:53,726 --> 05:26:55,662
or where those instructions are

7605
05:26:55,662 --> 05:26:57,664
to a greater extent based on

7606
05:26:57,664 --> 05:26:59,666
wetlands as a whole and make

7607
05:26:59,666 --> 05:27:01,666
recommendations related to

7608
05:27:01,669 --> 05:27:02,836
regulatory provisions in the

7609
05:27:02,836 --> 05:27:04,671
policy/proprietary steps to

7610
05:27:04,671 --> 05:27:05,939
retain wetlands needed to

7611
05:27:05,939 --> 05:27:07,807
ensure long-term wetland values

7612
05:27:07,807 --> 05:27:08,909
are sustained including but not

7613
05:27:08,909 --> 05:27:10,878
limited to those values.

7614
05:27:10,878 --> 05:27:12,780
The county mayor's directed to

7615
05:27:12,780 --> 05:27:14,181
develop a scope of services and

7616
05:27:14,181 --> 05:27:15,716
pursue funding for such

7617
05:27:15,716 --> 05:27:17,718
resources other than general

7618
05:27:17,718 --> 05:27:18,819
fund such as federal or state

7619
05:27:18,819 --> 05:27:20,688
grants or other funding

7620
05:27:20,688 --> 05:27:22,688
sources, after completion

7621
05:27:22,690 --> 05:27:24,691
county mayor or designee shall

7622
05:27:24,691 --> 05:27:25,893
prepare a written report and

7623
05:27:25,893 --> 05:27:27,695
recommendations pursuant to

7624
05:27:27,695 --> 05:27:28,963
rule 506j and leave the

7625
05:27:28,963 --> 05:27:30,698
completed report on an agenda

7626
05:27:30,698 --> 05:27:31,866
of the full board.

7627
05:27:31,866 --> 05:27:34,702
>>chair: second by the vice

7628
05:27:34,702 --> 05:27:35,903
chair, commissioner bermudez.

7629
05:27:35,903 --> 05:27:37,903
>>commissioner bermudez: I

7630
05:27:42,511 --> 05:27:43,712
don't want to channel my inner

7631
05:27:43,712 --> 05:27:45,680
mickey steinberg as this was

7632
05:27:45,680 --> 05:27:47,582
proposed by her but the bottom

7633
05:27:47,582 --> 05:27:48,683
line is don't we know where the

7634
05:27:48,683 --> 05:27:50,519
wetlands are or do we not

7635
05:27:50,519 --> 05:27:52,521
known, is it in cdmp, can the

7636
05:27:52,521 --> 05:27:54,521
administration enlighten me?

7637
05:27:54,823 --> 05:27:57,823
Okay, let's see class through

7638
05:28:02,130 --> 05:28:04,166
the chair we will have our part

7639
05:28:04,166 --> 05:28:06,680
er director answer this but I

7640
05:28:06,680 --> 05:28:07,969
want to say it's not just where

7641
05:28:07,969 --> 05:28:09,237
they are, it's the quality of

7642
05:28:09,237 --> 05:28:11,173
the wetlands and the importance

7643
05:28:11,173 --> 05:28:12,975
of maintaining them adequately

7644
05:28:12,975 --> 05:28:14,243
so they will xplain.

7645
05:28:14,243 --> 05:28:16,643
>>commissioner bermudez: if I

7646
05:28:16,845 --> 05:28:18,714
MAY I'm going to try to treat

7647
05:28:18,714 --> 05:28:21,650
you guys, do we know where the

7648
05:28:21,650 --> 05:28:23,650
wetlands are?

7649
05:28:23,719 --> 05:28:25,921
>> there are maps and surveys

7650
05:28:25,921 --> 05:28:27,756
that through the development

7651
05:28:27,756 --> 05:28:27,990
process are reassessed and

7652
05:28:27,990 --> 05:28:29,625
updated.

7653
05:28:29,625 --> 05:28:32,250
There are existing maps.

7654
05:28:33,863 --> 05:28:35,831
>>chair: that is a yes.

7655
05:28:35,831 --> 05:28:36,966
>>commissioner bermudez: you

7656
05:28:36,966 --> 05:28:37,900
provide maps to the 13 people

7657
05:28:37,900 --> 05:28:39,900
on this days?

7658
05:28:44,407 --> 05:28:45,608
My second question would be

7659
05:28:45,608 --> 05:28:47,510
while I have great faith in

7660
05:28:47,510 --> 05:28:49,345
both of you and in the mayor, I

7661
05:28:49,345 --> 05:28:51,480
would like this to be fair and

7662
05:28:51,480 --> 05:28:53,550
not just cited to the people

7663
05:28:53,550 --> 05:28:54,918
that MAY be followers of the

7664
05:28:54,918 --> 05:28:56,918
environmental world.

7665
05:29:02,759 --> 05:29:04,794
As such, I believe especially

7666
05:29:04,794 --> 05:29:06,696
if you're talking about valuing

7667
05:29:06,696 --> 05:29:10,132
the wetlands that you need to

7668
05:29:10,132 --> 05:29:11,268
bring in other sectors of this

7669
05:29:11,268 --> 05:29:13,237
community that can also be a

7670
05:29:13,237 --> 05:29:16,237
part of this process because

7671
05:29:20,945 --> 05:29:22,813
what I would not like to see is

7672
05:29:22,813 --> 05:29:24,480
a committee of individuals made

7673
05:29:24,480 --> 05:29:25,883
up of individuals looking at it

7674
05:29:25,883 --> 05:29:27,818
from one perspective, not

7675
05:29:27,818 --> 05:29:29,190
taking into account other

7676
05:29:29,190 --> 05:29:30,989
aspects that MAY impact this

7677
05:29:30,989 --> 05:29:34,559
county so my question would be

7678
05:29:34,559 --> 05:29:35,793
do you have any ideas or are we

7679
05:29:35,793 --> 05:29:37,694
leaving it up for the mayor who

7680
05:29:37,694 --> 05:29:38,562
will decide who will be on this

7681
05:29:38,562 --> 05:29:39,697
board?

7682
05:29:39,697 --> 05:29:42,670
Oliver will tell you the

7683
05:29:42,670 --> 05:29:44,670
answer, go ahead.

7684
05:29:45,536 --> 05:29:45,770
>> they asked me to bring this

7685
05:29:45,770 --> 05:29:47,770
forward.

7686
05:29:49,273 --> 05:29:51,273
Believe rer, if

7687
05:30:01,520 --> 05:30:03,520
you're up there.

7688
05:30:03,880 --> 05:30:04,956
>> it would be too bring back a

7689
05:30:04,956 --> 05:30:05,957
scope contracted with a

7690
05:30:05,957 --> 05:30:07,192
university entity.

7691
05:30:07,192 --> 05:30:08,960
As part of our evaluations,

7692
05:30:08,960 --> 05:30:11,960
there would be a public

7693
05:30:15,367 --> 05:30:17,367
involvement component and

7694
05:30:17,369 --> 05:30:19,369
consultations with affected

7695
05:30:19,371 --> 05:30:21,373
industries, stakeholders so we

7696
05:30:21,373 --> 05:30:22,574
can certainly be sure that is

7697
05:30:22,574 --> 05:30:24,376
included in the draft scope

7698
05:30:24,376 --> 05:30:25,611
brought before you.

7699
05:30:25,611 --> 05:30:27,579
>>commissioner bermudez: are

7700
05:30:27,579 --> 05:30:29,548
you telling me the scope will

7701
05:30:29,548 --> 05:30:31,351
include all interested parties,

7702
05:30:31,351 --> 05:30:32,852
not just one sector of the

7703
05:30:32,852 --> 05:30:34,353
community that MAY have an

7704
05:30:34,353 --> 05:30:35,554
opinion, as I saw on the prior

7705
05:30:35,554 --> 05:30:37,223
item that MAY have an opinion

7706
05:30:37,223 --> 05:30:39,124
that's already set in stone

7707
05:30:39,124 --> 05:30:40,260
while we are working at the

7708
05:30:40,260 --> 05:30:43,260
wetlands, is that a common

7709
05:30:45,164 --> 05:30:47,166
refrain on the record today?

7710
05:30:47,166 --> 05:30:49,168
>> it would be modeled after

7711
05:30:49,168 --> 05:30:51,238
the agricultural study which

7712
05:30:51,238 --> 05:30:53,206
included outreach to industry

7713
05:30:53,206 --> 05:30:54,307
and stakeholders and of course

7714
05:30:54,307 --> 05:30:56,175
whatever the process is in

7715
05:30:56,175 --> 05:30:58,770
terms of the results will come

7716
05:30:58,770 --> 05:31:01,677
before you and there is always

7717
05:31:04,840 --> 05:31:05,850
further opportunity for that as

7718
05:31:05,850 --> 05:31:06,353
well.

7719
05:31:06,353 --> 05:31:08,353
>>commissioner bermudez: I'll

7720
05:31:09,550 --> 05:31:11,910
be supportive of commissioner

7721
05:31:11,910 --> 05:31:14,910
steinberg motion because I feel

7722
05:31:19,632 --> 05:31:21,636
comfortable I have an answer,

7723
05:31:21,636 --> 05:31:22,837
that this will include all the

7724
05:31:22,837 --> 05:31:24,738
parties that could be impacted

7725
05:31:24,738 --> 05:31:26,607
and concerned, the only other

7726
05:31:26,607 --> 05:31:27,974
thing I would say is when you

7727
05:31:27,974 --> 05:31:30,611
have those maps could you give

7728
05:31:30,611 --> 05:31:32,613
it to 13 AUGUST members of this

7729
05:31:32,613 --> 05:31:33,614
body, 12 AUGUST members and one

7730
05:31:33,614 --> 05:31:35,614
individual.

7731
05:31:35,683 --> 05:31:36,984
>>chair: now he's got all the

7732
05:31:36,984 --> 05:31:37,184
parties, it is officially a

7733
05:31:37,184 --> 05:31:39,184
party.

7734
05:31:39,619 --> 05:31:40,955
>>commissioner gilbert: at the

7735
05:31:40,955 --> 05:31:42,690
risk of being a sidekick here,

7736
05:31:42,690 --> 05:31:43,858
they are going to take all

7737
05:31:43,858 --> 05:31:45,793
input and it's going to come

7738
05:31:45,793 --> 05:31:46,861
back and say exactly what you

7739
05:31:46,861 --> 05:31:48,829
think it's going to say.

7740
05:31:48,829 --> 05:31:50,498
This is going to be written by

7741
05:31:50,498 --> 05:31:52,500
termites so I want to be clear,

7742
05:31:52,500 --> 05:31:52,700
I know what's about to happen

7743
05:31:52,700 --> 05:31:54,469
here.

7744
05:31:54,469 --> 05:31:55,360
This is one of those times I

7745
05:31:55,360 --> 05:31:56,971
can see it.

7746
05:31:56,971 --> 05:31:59,207
And it's completely fine.

7747
05:31:59,207 --> 05:32:02,207
That's what's going to happen.

7748
05:32:03,311 --> 05:32:05,379
But it's going to happen.

7749
05:32:05,379 --> 05:32:08,979
You are trying to guard against

7750
05:32:16,925 --> 05:32:17,162
it and by the record I believe

7751
05:32:17,162 --> 05:32:18,126
you.

7752
05:32:18,126 --> 05:32:20,128
I actually believe you.

7753
05:32:20,128 --> 05:32:21,964
This is not to cast aspersions

7754
05:32:21,964 --> 05:32:24,660
on your honesty, you want to

7755
05:32:24,660 --> 05:32:25,934
include everybody and what's

7756
05:32:25,934 --> 05:32:27,135
going to come that is the

7757
05:32:27,135 --> 05:32:30,135
opinion that we already know

7758
05:32:32,441 --> 05:32:34,410
they have.

7759
05:32:34,410 --> 05:32:36,345
>>chair: I agree but why do you

7760
05:32:36,345 --> 05:32:40,545
need a motion, do you have the

7761
05:32:42,352 --> 05:32:44,353
authority to do this?

7762
05:32:44,353 --> 05:32:46,355
>>mayor cava: through the chair

7763
05:32:46,355 --> 05:32:50,555
I'd like to go back to this

7764
05:32:55,698 --> 05:32:57,600
agricultural study that took

7765
05:32:57,600 --> 05:32:58,601
the board's request to do a

7766
05:32:58,601 --> 05:33:00,601
significant study.

7767
05:33:00,604 --> 05:33:02,506
We do believe we have the funds

7768
05:33:02,506 --> 05:33:03,740
within our proprietary

7769
05:33:03,740 --> 05:33:05,608
departments so we won't have to

7770
05:33:05,608 --> 05:33:08,608
draw from the general fund,

7771
05:33:11,515 --> 05:33:13,515
that's our intention.

7772
05:33:14,351 --> 05:33:16,353
By the way it's information for

7773
05:33:16,353 --> 05:33:16,619
you, it doesn't dictate your

7774
05:33:16,619 --> 05:33:18,588
decisions.

7775
05:33:18,588 --> 05:33:20,457
Just like the agricultural

7776
05:33:20,457 --> 05:33:22,526
report which took many years

7777
05:33:22,526 --> 05:33:24,561
because it didn't move forward,

7778
05:33:24,561 --> 05:33:26,496
it provides you a backdrop so

7779
05:33:26,496 --> 05:33:28,332
when you're making decisions

7780
05:33:28,332 --> 05:33:30,334
you have the information.

7781
05:33:30,334 --> 05:33:31,569
>>chair: I would ask to do a

7782
05:33:31,569 --> 05:33:33,471
friendly amendment now that the

7783
05:33:33,471 --> 05:33:35,339
mayor said something to trigger

7784
05:33:35,339 --> 05:33:36,407
it to make sure it is 100%

7785
05:33:36,407 --> 05:33:37,441
covered, the cost of

7786
05:33:37,441 --> 05:33:39,342
proprietary funds.

7787
05:33:39,342 --> 05:33:40,578
At the time when we are already

7788
05:33:40,578 --> 05:33:42,379
crunching pennies because we're

7789
05:33:42,379 --> 05:33:44,348
doing the budget to go to a

7790
05:33:44,348 --> 05:33:46,350
study that I mean, we know what

7791
05:33:46,350 --> 05:33:48,352
the outcome is going to be so I

7792
05:33:48,352 --> 05:33:49,553
don't want to pay as a taxpayer

7793
05:33:49,553 --> 05:33:52,553
something that I know isn't

7794
05:33:56,600 --> 05:33:57,261
going to be said.

7795
05:33:57,261 --> 05:33:59,620
>>commissioner steinberg:

7796
05:33:59,620 --> 05:34:00,197
specific to the motion no

7797
05:34:00,197 --> 05:34:02,134
general funds will be used

7798
05:34:02,134 --> 05:34:04,690
towards this and attaining any

7799
05:34:04,690 --> 05:34:05,203
federal and state grants as

7800
05:34:05,203 --> 05:34:06,171
well for the offset of any

7801
05:34:06,171 --> 05:34:08,720
additional costs.

7802
05:34:08,720 --> 05:34:10,740
>>chair: as long as that the

7803
05:34:10,740 --> 05:34:11,760
case, I'm good, commissioner

7804
05:34:11,760 --> 05:34:12,711
gonzalez.

7805
05:34:12,711 --> 05:34:15,800
>>commissioner gonzalez: to see

7806
05:34:15,800 --> 05:34:17,820
if we can get both commissioner

7807
05:34:17,820 --> 05:34:18,283
gilbert and commissioner

7808
05:34:18,283 --> 05:34:20,118
bermudez on board I don't know

7809
05:34:20,118 --> 05:34:21,320
if this can be a friendly

7810
05:34:21,320 --> 05:34:23,221
amendment but what if we made

7811
05:34:23,221 --> 05:34:25,190
it so the commission had input

7812
05:34:25,190 --> 05:34:27,920
on who does the study?

7813
05:34:27,920 --> 05:34:29,920
Because the administration

7814
05:34:29,127 --> 05:34:32,727
wants to study, once the study

7815
05:34:34,400 --> 05:34:37,400
to move forward then perhaps

7816
05:34:38,270 --> 05:34:40,500
everybody can be sufficiently

7817
05:34:40,500 --> 05:34:43,500
happy with the fact that

7818
05:34:44,310 --> 05:34:45,511
everybody's included class the

7819
05:34:45,511 --> 05:34:47,279
scope will come before you

7820
05:34:47,279 --> 05:34:48,514
through the interlocal

7821
05:34:48,514 --> 05:34:52,114
agreement so you will be able

7822
05:34:55,121 --> 05:34:57,121
to review it.

7823
05:34:57,123 --> 05:34:59,123
>>commissioner gonzalez: that's

7824
05:34:59,125 --> 05:35:00,560
not what I'm talking about, I'm

7825
05:35:00,560 --> 05:35:02,128
talking about the entity

7826
05:35:02,128 --> 05:35:03,363
because you cited universities

7827
05:35:03,363 --> 05:35:06,963
so the actual entity, if we

7828
05:35:08,368 --> 05:35:10,270
could have a final say as to

7829
05:35:10,270 --> 05:35:11,538
who does that it could be fiu,

7830
05:35:11,538 --> 05:35:13,440
university of miami, it could

7831
05:35:13,440 --> 05:35:15,275
be berkley, 1000 different

7832
05:35:15,275 --> 05:35:16,442
people with 1000 different

7833
05:35:16,442 --> 05:35:18,278
universities but if we could

7834
05:35:18,278 --> 05:35:21,215
have a say as to who does it,

7835
05:35:21,215 --> 05:35:21,415
perhaps more folks would be on

7836
05:35:21,415 --> 05:35:23,383
board.

7837
05:35:23,383 --> 05:35:25,219
>>chair: commissioner regalado,

7838
05:35:25,219 --> 05:35:27,219
I'm sorry.

7839
05:35:29,789 --> 05:35:30,891
>>commissioner regalado: I

7840
05:35:30,891 --> 05:35:32,793
think it's a good item.

7841
05:35:32,793 --> 05:35:36,393
My only concern is whenever we

7842
05:35:40,501 --> 05:35:41,502
do, first of all all love each

7843
05:35:41,502 --> 05:35:43,504
dermites but when we do this we

7844
05:35:43,504 --> 05:35:44,673
don't take into consideration

7845
05:35:44,673 --> 05:35:45,906
ownership so I'm all for a

7846
05:35:45,906 --> 05:35:48,575
valuation but at the heart of

7847
05:35:48,575 --> 05:35:52,175
our problem is holmes so I

7848
05:35:52,714 --> 05:35:55,316
think we make these decisions

7849
05:35:55,316 --> 05:35:58,316
on other people's property and

7850
05:36:08,362 --> 05:36:09,230
i think it needs to the

7851
05:36:09,230 --> 05:36:10,432
ownership.

7852
05:36:10,432 --> 05:36:12,401
And it also needs to the cost

7853
05:36:12,401 --> 05:36:14,402
for restoring the wetlands.

7854
05:36:14,402 --> 05:36:16,237
Because we know that's going to

7855
05:36:16,237 --> 05:36:19,837
be one of the navy issues.

7856
05:36:23,845 --> 05:36:25,747
I'm happy to do an audit so we

7857
05:36:25,747 --> 05:36:26,648
can figure out where the

7858
05:36:26,648 --> 05:36:27,849
wetlands are.

7859
05:36:27,849 --> 05:36:29,651
I'm sure when we get to the

7860
05:36:29,651 --> 05:36:30,886
scope we will talk about its

7861
05:36:30,886 --> 05:36:32,755
basins and its importance to

7862
05:36:32,755 --> 05:36:33,889
the basins but who does it

7863
05:36:33,889 --> 05:36:35,657
belong to, how is it being

7864
05:36:35,657 --> 05:36:36,859
used, what is the current

7865
05:36:36,859 --> 05:36:38,927
condition and what is the cost

7866
05:36:38,927 --> 05:36:40,797
of restoring it because these

7867
05:36:40,797 --> 05:36:42,765
are all factors I think we have

7868
05:36:42,765 --> 05:36:44,666
to discuss and I actually think

7869
05:36:44,666 --> 05:36:45,867
it would be good for the board

7870
05:36:45,867 --> 05:36:47,670
to see that a lot of what is,

7871
05:36:47,670 --> 05:36:49,671
from the common plan

7872
05:36:49,671 --> 05:36:51,674
perspective wetlands is not in

7873
05:36:51,674 --> 05:36:51,941
good shape and needs to be

7874
05:36:51,941 --> 05:36:53,676
restored.

7875
05:36:53,676 --> 05:36:54,877
That's one of the problems

7876
05:36:54,877 --> 05:36:56,812
we're having here in terms of

7877
05:36:56,812 --> 05:36:58,747
the disconnect is there is not

7878
05:36:58,747 --> 05:37:00,684
a complete understanding of the

7879
05:37:00,684 --> 05:37:01,818
quality of the wetlands and the

7880
05:37:01,818 --> 05:37:03,753
money that needs to be put

7881
05:37:03,753 --> 05:37:04,921
towards restoring them and how

7882
05:37:04,921 --> 05:37:06,689
do we preserve them because

7883
05:37:06,689 --> 05:37:08,658
that's the other piece.

7884
05:37:08,658 --> 05:37:11,227
So I'm happy to support

7885
05:37:11,227 --> 05:37:13,230
commissioner steinberg I think

7886
05:37:13,230 --> 05:37:14,231
you should the ownership and

7887
05:37:14,231 --> 05:37:15,799
restoration cost.

7888
05:37:15,799 --> 05:37:18,199
And I appreciate proprietary

7889
05:37:19,350 --> 05:37:20,871
but I don't want it to come

7890
05:37:20,871 --> 05:37:23,874
from the award so as long as

7891
05:37:23,874 --> 05:37:26,274
because it's under proprietary,

7892
05:37:29,846 --> 05:37:31,682
as long as that's not happening

7893
05:37:31,682 --> 05:37:32,850
I'm good and while we're at

7894
05:37:32,850 --> 05:37:34,952
this why don't we consider

7895
05:37:34,952 --> 05:37:37,352
financing mechanisms and other

7896
05:37:41,825 --> 05:37:42,826
options to purchasing,

7897
05:37:42,826 --> 05:37:44,950
maintaining.

7898
05:37:44,950 --> 05:37:45,963
Because what's the point of the

7899
05:37:45,963 --> 05:37:47,965
study if it's going to tell us

7900
05:37:47,965 --> 05:37:50,965
we have these grandiose plans

7901
05:37:53,805 --> 05:37:55,740
for other people's property?

7902
05:37:55,740 --> 05:37:57,675
If we have a plan they are

7903
05:37:57,675 --> 05:37:59,643
valuable to us that proffer us

7904
05:37:59,643 --> 05:38:00,812
some ideas as to how we could

7905
05:38:00,812 --> 05:38:03,812
purchase them, how we could

7906
05:38:11,456 --> 05:38:13,358
covenant them and maintain them

7907
05:38:13,358 --> 05:38:14,625
because that's the second

7908
05:38:14,625 --> 05:38:16,427
conversation we don't have and

7909
05:38:16,427 --> 05:38:18,363
what I don't want is to pay

7910
05:38:18,363 --> 05:38:19,597
money for a study and it gets

7911
05:38:19,597 --> 05:38:21,466
put on some shelf and we MAY or

7912
05:38:21,466 --> 05:38:23,368
MAY not refer to it so that

7913
05:38:23,368 --> 05:38:24,502
would be another friendly

7914
05:38:24,502 --> 05:38:26,438
amendment in terms of the

7915
05:38:26,438 --> 05:38:28,373
financing and purchasing of it.

7916
05:38:28,373 --> 05:38:29,374
>>chair: commissioner cohen

7917
05:38:29,374 --> 05:38:30,643
higgins.

7918
05:38:30,643 --> 05:38:32,578
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

7919
05:38:32,578 --> 05:38:34,379
when was the last time we did a

7920
05:38:34,379 --> 05:38:35,547
wetlands study in miami-dade

7921
05:38:35,547 --> 05:38:37,382
county collects I'm not aware

7922
05:38:37,382 --> 05:38:38,650
we've done one.

7923
05:38:38,650 --> 05:38:40,519
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

7924
05:38:40,519 --> 05:38:42,387
this whole idea came to me one

7925
05:38:42,387 --> 05:38:43,622
time when I was talking about a

7926
05:38:43,622 --> 05:38:45,557
project, I don't think it was

7927
05:38:45,557 --> 05:38:47,459
this project and I was told our

7928
05:38:47,459 --> 05:38:50,459
lead on contamination that it

7929
05:38:51,931 --> 05:38:53,132
would be helpful to have a

7930
05:38:53,132 --> 05:38:54,934
wetlands study that is how the

7931
05:38:54,934 --> 05:38:56,936
idea did not even have to do

7932
05:38:56,936 --> 05:38:58,170
with this particular

7933
05:38:58,170 --> 05:39:01,170
application and that it just

7934
05:39:04,377 --> 05:39:05,378
helps to inform us in our

7935
05:39:05,378 --> 05:39:07,346
decision-making.

7936
05:39:07,346 --> 05:39:09,346
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

7937
05:39:09,382 --> 05:39:10,550
considering we haven't had one

7938
05:39:10,550 --> 05:39:12,452
done in the recent history are

7939
05:39:12,452 --> 05:39:16,520
not sure why there's so much

7940
05:39:23,163 --> 05:39:24,397
pushback on getting information

7941
05:39:24,397 --> 05:39:26,332
reports on the current status

7942
05:39:26,332 --> 05:39:27,133
of wetlands in miami-dade

7943
05:39:27,133 --> 05:39:28,501
county.

7944
05:39:28,501 --> 05:39:29,402
We are flanked by the

7945
05:39:29,402 --> 05:39:31,205
everglades and biscayne bay,

7946
05:39:31,205 --> 05:39:32,672
these decisions affect our

7947
05:39:32,672 --> 05:39:34,241
drinking water and flooding in

7948
05:39:34,241 --> 05:39:36,243
our county of which many

7949
05:39:36,243 --> 05:39:38,245
residents complain all the time

7950
05:39:38,245 --> 05:39:38,445
yet we continue to pay and

7951
05:39:38,445 --> 05:39:40,146
pave.

7952
05:39:40,146 --> 05:39:42,149
I would like to see a wetlands

7953
05:39:42,149 --> 05:39:43,350
study done so we can have the

7954
05:39:43,350 --> 05:39:45,151
information since we haven't

7955
05:39:45,151 --> 05:39:46,420
done one in sense forever to

7956
05:39:46,420 --> 05:39:48,255
add least have a starting point

7957
05:39:48,255 --> 05:39:49,423
on what these wetlands are,

7958
05:39:49,423 --> 05:39:52,159
where they are and we can make

7959
05:39:52,159 --> 05:39:54,161
a firm decision so I'm happy to

7960
05:39:54,161 --> 05:39:56,130
support it commissioner.

7961
05:39:56,130 --> 05:39:58,165
>>chair: my district needs new

7962
05:39:58,165 --> 05:39:59,166
haven, it has potholes

7963
05:39:59,166 --> 05:40:01,135
everywhere.

7964
05:40:01,135 --> 05:40:03,135
>>commissioner cohen higgins:

7965
05:40:03,137 --> 05:40:05,139
that's why we passed the

7966
05:40:05,139 --> 05:40:06,173
improvement ordinance, thank

7967
05:40:06,173 --> 05:40:08,142
you so much.

7968
05:40:08,142 --> 05:40:09,143
>>chair: yes bermudez, second

7969
05:40:09,143 --> 05:40:10,378
bite at the apple.

7970
05:40:10,378 --> 05:40:12,313
>>commissioner bermudez: I'm

7971
05:40:12,313 --> 05:40:14,148
going to vote for it and accept

7972
05:40:14,148 --> 05:40:16,251
for the fact I do think we have

7973
05:40:16,251 --> 05:40:18,152
everybody incorporated in this

7974
05:40:18,152 --> 05:40:19,387
process, there are proprietary

7975
05:40:19,387 --> 05:40:21,289
rights, we need to also include

7976
05:40:21,289 --> 05:40:23,158
them and the final one because

7977
05:40:23,158 --> 05:40:25,558
everything here is political,

7978
05:40:28,463 --> 05:40:30,131
do them dermites or dermians?

7979
05:40:30,131 --> 05:40:33,731
I was watching a taxi episode

7980
05:40:37,872 --> 05:40:38,840
saying are they delaware or

7981
05:40:38,840 --> 05:40:40,840
delawarites?

7982
05:40:41,210 --> 05:40:43,210
Let me know.

7983
05:40:44,112 --> 05:40:47,712
>>chair: we have a second, as

7984
05:40:48,500 --> 05:40:49,951
amended, make sure we are using

7985
05:40:49,951 --> 05:40:52,951
proprietary funds, all in favor

7986
05:40:53,956 --> 05:40:55,124
signify by saying aye.

7987
05:40:55,124 --> 05:40:55,324
Opposed, nay. Show the item

7988
05:40:55,324 --> 05:40:57,126
past.

7989
05:40:57,126 --> 05:40:59,561
Are we in the pulled items at

7990
05:40:59,561 --> 05:41:01,561
this time?

7991
05:41:06,969 --> 05:41:08,204
>> there are a few releases.

7992
05:41:08,204 --> 05:41:10,140
>> we will take the releases in

7993
05:41:10,140 --> 05:41:12,175
a second, I'm going to call 84

7994
05:41:12,175 --> 05:41:14,577
and 85 together if possible, it

7995
05:41:14,577 --> 05:41:18,177
was released by d 13 but I

7996
05:41:20,550 --> 05:41:22,950
still have the 12th.

7997
05:41:26,522 --> 05:41:28,457
So then you already got out of.

7998
05:41:28,457 --> 05:41:30,260
>> I have a possible conflict

7999
05:41:30,260 --> 05:41:32,260
on 85.

8000
05:41:36,566 --> 05:41:38,680
i want to excuse myself.

8001
05:41:38,680 --> 05:41:38,401
Okay, so separate from the

8002
05:41:38,401 --> 05:41:40,401
cosponsorship.

8003
05:41:45,342 --> 05:41:47,244
Got you.

8004
05:41:47,244 --> 05:41:50,348
So we will take a separate but

8005
05:41:50,348 --> 05:41:50,681
discuss them together.

8006
05:41:50,681 --> 05:41:52,681
Commissioner.

8007
05:42:05,830 --> 05:42:07,831
>> I'm not going to discuss 85.

8008
05:42:07,831 --> 05:42:09,990
>>commissioner bermudez: I will

8009
05:42:09,990 --> 05:42:09,300
save the time, I support both

8010
05:42:09,300 --> 05:42:10,935
items.

8011
05:42:10,935 --> 05:42:12,136
He only thing I'd like

8012
05:42:12,136 --> 05:42:13,938
to do is don't do this county

8013
05:42:13,938 --> 05:42:15,840
when somebody admits to doing

8014
05:42:15,840 --> 05:42:16,841
something we must have a

8015
05:42:16,841 --> 05:42:17,842
tracking mechanism.

8016
05:42:17,842 --> 05:42:19,760
His

8017
05:42:19,760 --> 05:42:21,120
administration are all the ones

8018
05:42:21,120 --> 05:42:23,114
I know one of you is involved

8019
05:42:23,114 --> 05:42:25,830
where a future administration

8020
05:42:25,830 --> 05:42:26,851
this needs to be monitored as

8021
05:42:26,851 --> 05:42:28,520
we move forward.

8022
05:42:28,520 --> 05:42:29,887
Because that's the only thing

8023
05:42:29,887 --> 05:42:31,857
I'll say, that was all my

8024
05:42:31,857 --> 05:42:32,924
statements and I'm in support.

8025
05:42:32,924 --> 05:42:34,827
>>chair: 804 moved by

8026
05:42:34,827 --> 05:42:36,827
commissioner cohen higgins,

8027
05:42:37,228 --> 05:42:38,229
seconded by commissioner lopez,

8028
05:42:38,229 --> 05:42:40,980
all in favor say aye.

8029
05:42:40,980 --> 05:42:43,980
Opposed, nay. You can be

8030
05:42:54,580 --> 05:42:55,848
excused now.

8031
05:42:55,848 --> 05:42:57,649
>>commissioner gonzalez: I'm

8032
05:42:57,649 --> 05:42:59,584
going to read this for the

8033
05:42:59,584 --> 05:43:01,587
record, although I have

8034
05:43:01,587 --> 05:43:02,788
discussed it with the county

8035
05:43:02,788 --> 05:43:04,756
attorney's office and they do

8036
05:43:04,756 --> 05:43:06,759
not believe there is a conflict

8037
05:43:06,759 --> 05:43:08,593
of interest I am recusing

8038
05:43:08,593 --> 05:43:09,862
myself on this item in an

8039
05:43:09,862 --> 05:43:11,765
abundance of caution, I MAY

8040
05:43:11,765 --> 05:43:13,599
have conflict of interest

8041
05:43:13,599 --> 05:43:14,833
regarding 85, I'm in business

8042
05:43:14,833 --> 05:43:16,769
with a possible affiliate and

8043
05:43:16,769 --> 05:43:19,338
that is the counties proposed

8044
05:43:19,338 --> 05:43:21,308
tenant, item 8a5 would

8045
05:43:21,308 --> 05:43:22,675
authorize the county to enter

8046
05:43:22,675 --> 05:43:24,511
into a lease agreement and in

8047
05:43:24,511 --> 05:43:26,445
an abundance of caution to

8048
05:43:26,445 --> 05:43:28,314
avoid any appearance I will be

8049
05:43:28,314 --> 05:43:29,515
abstaining from voting on this

8050
05:43:29,515 --> 05:43:32,318
matter and removing myself from

8051
05:43:32,318 --> 05:43:33,320
the chambers when the matter is

8052
05:43:33,320 --> 05:43:35,320
discussed.

8053
05:43:35,322 --> 05:43:37,322
>>chair: commissioner cohen

8054
05:43:37,323 --> 05:43:39,325
higgins moves, second by

8055
05:43:39,325 --> 05:43:41,295
commissioner gilbert, all in

8056
05:43:41,295 --> 05:43:43,330
favor signify by saying aye.

8057
05:43:43,330 --> 05:43:45,332
Opposed, nay. Show 8a5 past and

8058
05:43:45,332 --> 05:43:46,466
commissioner gonzalez can

8059
05:43:46,466 --> 05:43:48,368
reenter the chamber.

8060
05:43:48,368 --> 05:43:51,205
Now, MR. Attorney you can see

8061
05:43:51,205 --> 05:43:53,205
what was released.

8062
05:43:54,410 --> 05:43:56,410
>> commissioners and bermudez

8063
05:44:00,213 --> 05:44:02,613
released 8p1, regalado releases

8064
05:44:04,819 --> 05:44:07,819
8p5 and cosponsor on 11a4.

8065
05:44:13,594 --> 05:44:15,594
>> co-prime.

8066
05:44:15,596 --> 05:44:17,596
>>commissioner regalado: thank

8067
05:44:18,332 --> 05:44:20,302
you, I accept.

8068
05:44:20,302 --> 05:44:22,302
>>commissioner bermudez: was

8069
05:44:28,943 --> 05:44:30,943
that 3a1 and 2?

8070
05:44:35,550 --> 05:44:35,784
What were the releases again,

8071
05:44:35,784 --> 05:44:37,784
please?

8072
05:44:37,786 --> 05:44:39,620
>> commissioner bermudez and

8073
05:44:39,620 --> 05:44:42,620
milian orbis released 8p1 and

8074
05:44:46,995 --> 05:44:48,930
regalado released 8n5.

8075
05:44:48,930 --> 05:44:50,165
>> second, all in favor, all

8076
05:44:50,165 --> 05:44:53,165
against, show the item passes,

8077
05:44:56,672 --> 05:44:56,838
next MADAM Attorney we are at

8078
05:44:56,838 --> 05:44:58,674
3a1.

8079
05:44:58,674 --> 05:45:01,740
>> district 13 you are pulling

8080
05:45:03,179 --> 05:45:05,147
first.

8081
05:45:05,147 --> 05:45:06,382
>>senator garcia: this is the

8082
05:45:06,382 --> 05:45:09,151
naming of a street and just for

8083
05:45:09,151 --> 05:45:10,353
the record for everyone's

8084
05:45:10,353 --> 05:45:13,353
information again what I said

8085
05:45:13,523 --> 05:45:14,524
earlier a lot of these I have a

8086
05:45:14,524 --> 05:45:15,757
state hold so these

8087
05:45:15,757 --> 05:45:18,157
designations will come through

8088
05:45:18,460 --> 05:45:20,460
our office.

8089
05:45:20,797 --> 05:45:24,397
>> were we on 3a1 or 3a2.

8090
05:45:28,704 --> 05:45:29,872
>>senator garcia: 3a1 so this

8091
05:45:29,872 --> 05:45:32,872
is celia cruz, and enduring

8092
05:45:36,446 --> 05:45:39,446
symbol of strength and coming

8093
05:45:43,920 --> 05:45:45,989
together for the community.

8094
05:45:45,989 --> 05:45:47,924
Her voice broke barriers and

8095
05:45:47,924 --> 05:45:51,524
her legacy remains a beacon of

8096
05:45:52,290 --> 05:45:53,964
what it meant to lead with

8097
05:45:53,964 --> 05:45:54,164
artistry, authenticity and

8098
05:45:54,164 --> 05:45:56,164
heart.

8099
05:45:56,967 --> 05:45:59,967
Her trademark phrase became an

8100
05:46:03,307 --> 05:46:05,307
empowering cultural system

8101
05:46:05,309 --> 05:46:05,576
symbol with the afro-cuban

8102
05:46:05,576 --> 05:46:07,378
identity.

8103
05:46:07,378 --> 05:46:09,313
MR. CHAIRMAN that is the

8104
05:46:09,313 --> 05:46:10,581
resolution passed by the

8105
05:46:10,581 --> 05:46:12,417
florida state legislature and

8106
05:46:12,417 --> 05:46:14,318
is before you on this road

8107
05:46:14,318 --> 05:46:15,453
designation designating celia

8108
05:46:15,453 --> 05:46:17,421
cruz away of 103rd street.

8109
05:46:17,421 --> 05:46:18,880
>>vice chair mcghee: do we have

8110
05:46:18,880 --> 05:46:19,890
a second?

8111
05:46:19,890 --> 05:46:21,890
All right.

8112
05:46:21,920 --> 05:46:23,920
>>commissioner bermudez: the

8113
05:46:24,950 --> 05:46:26,630
discussion we can have.

8114
05:46:26,630 --> 05:46:29,630
>>vice chair mcghee: you want

8115
05:46:34,205 --> 05:46:36,141
to coprime or cosponsor?

8116
05:46:36,141 --> 05:46:38,110
MADAM Attorney are you getting

8117
05:46:38,110 --> 05:46:39,430
an entire day us, all of us for

8118
05:46:39,430 --> 05:46:41,430
both of them.

8119
05:46:41,346 --> 05:46:42,280
Is that correct for everyone?

8120
05:46:42,280 --> 05:46:44,182
It's okay.

8121
05:46:44,182 --> 05:46:48,382
And so we are going to call

8122
05:46:48,919 --> 05:46:49,870
them at the same time, 3a1 and

8123
05:46:49,870 --> 05:46:51,870
3a2.

8124
05:47:02,601 --> 05:47:03,636
Let's push 3a1, all in favor.

8125
05:47:03,636 --> 05:47:05,537
Give me one second.

8126
05:47:05,537 --> 05:47:06,838
Seeing the motion the

8127
05:47:06,838 --> 05:47:08,640
resolution was moved do we have

8128
05:47:08,640 --> 05:47:09,675
a second, all in favor.

8129
05:47:09,675 --> 05:47:10,810
All against.

8130
05:47:10,810 --> 05:47:13,512
That item moves and passes.

8131
05:47:13,512 --> 05:47:14,747
> I had a statement by the

8132
05:47:14,747 --> 05:47:15,614
celia cruz estate they asked me

8133
05:47:15,614 --> 05:47:17,516
to read.

8134
05:47:17,516 --> 05:47:21,116
On behalf of the celia cruz

8135
05:47:27,827 --> 05:47:29,761
estate I extend our deepest

8136
05:47:29,761 --> 05:47:31,731
gratitude to senator rizzo and

8137
05:47:31,731 --> 05:47:32,799
the legislature, city of

8138
05:47:32,799 --> 05:47:34,667
hialeah CHAIRMAN Anthony

8139
05:47:34,667 --> 05:47:36,669
rodriguez and every member of

8140
05:47:36,669 --> 05:47:37,837
the miami-dade board of county

8141
05:47:37,837 --> 05:47:39,837
commissioners for honoring

8142
05:47:39,872 --> 05:47:42,872
celia cruz with the designation

8143
05:47:53,987 --> 05:47:56,560
of celia cruz way, this for all

8144
05:47:56,560 --> 05:47:57,224
who cherish her legacy, hialeah

8145
05:47:57,224 --> 05:47:59,920
south florida represent the

8146
05:47:59,920 --> 05:48:01,128
heart of the community cuban

8147
05:48:01,128 --> 05:48:03,970
exile experience and embrace

8148
05:48:03,970 --> 05:48:04,498
her with great love, this last

8149
05:48:04,498 --> 05:48:06,233
thing on earth celebrate not

8150
05:48:06,233 --> 05:48:08,100
only her artistic achievements

8151
05:48:08,100 --> 05:48:09,202
but the joy pride and

8152
05:48:09,202 --> 05:48:11,139
perseverance she represented

8153
05:48:11,139 --> 05:48:12,373
for hispanic and african

8154
05:48:12,373 --> 05:48:14,208
heritage communities.

8155
05:48:14,208 --> 05:48:16,177
We are grateful to everyone who

8156
05:48:16,177 --> 05:48:18,780
MAY distribute possible.

8157
05:48:18,780 --> 05:48:19,213
This is on behalf of omar the

8158
05:48:19,213 --> 05:48:20,113
deal, thank you so much MR.

8159
05:48:20,113 --> 05:48:22,160
Chair.

8160
05:48:22,160 --> 05:48:23,184
>>vice chair mcghee: would you

8161
05:48:23,184 --> 05:48:25,190
like to file that with the

8162
05:48:25,190 --> 05:48:27,210
clerk of court, thank you,

8163
05:48:27,210 --> 05:48:28,255
heading over to 3a2.

8164
05:48:28,255 --> 05:48:30,123
>>commissioner milian orbis:

8165
05:48:30,123 --> 05:48:32,260
thank you, so this is a code

8166
05:48:32,260 --> 05:48:33,228
designation form and obviously

8167
05:48:33,228 --> 05:48:35,290
MR. Reyes left a tremendous

8168
05:48:35,290 --> 05:48:37,310
legacy, he was a fierce

8169
05:48:37,310 --> 05:48:39,330
advocate for the community and

8170
05:48:39,330 --> 05:48:40,268
literally left us while still

8171
05:48:40,268 --> 05:48:42,170
fighting for his community, he

8172
05:48:42,170 --> 05:48:44,390
was loved by all his family

8173
05:48:44,390 --> 05:48:45,273
was, is very special to me, to

8174
05:48:45,273 --> 05:48:47,241
my family myself and I saw his

8175
05:48:47,241 --> 05:48:49,110
son here earlier, I don't know

8176
05:48:49,110 --> 05:48:51,130
if easier but he is a dear

8177
05:48:51,130 --> 05:48:52,247
friend this street closing

8178
05:48:52,247 --> 05:48:54,116
designation is so well-deserved

8179
05:48:54,116 --> 05:48:56,170
and I am so delighted it is in

8180
05:48:56,170 --> 05:48:58,190
district 6. In my research I

8181
05:48:58,190 --> 05:49:00,623
found out all things that come

8182
05:49:00,623 --> 05:49:01,824
from tallahassee that

8183
05:49:01,824 --> 05:49:04,626
commissioner garcia has a hold

8184
05:49:04,626 --> 05:49:05,694
on everything that comes into

8185
05:49:05,694 --> 05:49:07,629
tallahassee and it was

8186
05:49:07,629 --> 05:49:10,629
concerning because I was a

8187
05:49:12,635 --> 05:49:14,537
little concerned that a code

8188
05:49:14,537 --> 05:49:16,538
designation in district 6 was

8189
05:49:16,538 --> 05:49:17,740
handed over to another

8190
05:49:17,740 --> 05:49:19,541
commissioner but nonetheless

8191
05:49:19,541 --> 05:49:21,544
honored to work on this.

8192
05:49:21,544 --> 05:49:25,144
It is literally down the street

8193
05:49:27,116 --> 05:49:28,984
from my district office and I

8194
05:49:28,984 --> 05:49:31,210
did file legislation to make

8195
05:49:31,210 --> 05:49:32,888
sure this doesn't occur anymore

8196
05:49:32,888 --> 05:49:34,958
because it should go to the

8197
05:49:34,958 --> 05:49:36,159
district commissioner when we

8198
05:49:36,159 --> 05:49:38,600
are doing it, he's a big part

8199
05:49:38,600 --> 05:49:39,962
of our community so thank you

8200
05:49:39,962 --> 05:49:41,131
and with that I would love to

8201
05:49:41,131 --> 05:49:42,866
be part of this, so thank you

8202
05:49:42,866 --> 05:49:44,134
so much MR. Chair.

8203
05:49:44,134 --> 05:49:46,136
>>vice chair mcghee: we also

8204
05:49:46,136 --> 05:49:47,170
see district 12 you pull this

8205
05:49:47,170 --> 05:49:49,720
along with district 13.

8206
05:49:49,720 --> 05:49:51,410
>commissioner bermudez: I

8207
05:49:51,410 --> 05:49:52,910
don't know if many is here but

8208
05:49:52,910 --> 05:49:54,878
MR. Reyes was an example of,

8209
05:49:54,878 --> 05:49:56,880
there's a lot of good people in

8210
05:49:56,880 --> 05:49:58,810
politics, ultimately included

8211
05:49:58,810 --> 05:49:59,882
but was very unique in that he

8212
05:49:59,882 --> 05:50:01,840
called it the way it is.

8213
05:50:01,840 --> 05:50:02,953
If you was with you he tell you

8214
05:50:02,953 --> 05:50:04,888
he was always an honest man.

8215
05:50:04,888 --> 05:50:06,390
That's all he's done for any

8216
05:50:06,390 --> 05:50:08,580
ulterior reasons for this one

8217
05:50:08,580 --> 05:50:09,960
is in my opinion even before he

8218
05:50:09,960 --> 05:50:12,663
was an elected official he was

8219
05:50:12,663 --> 05:50:13,831
a fair guy and I also

8220
05:50:13,831 --> 05:50:15,933
understand and I'm going to

8221
05:50:15,933 --> 05:50:18,933
support it, like I said

8222
05:50:21,806 --> 05:50:23,674
hopefully we can co-prime it

8223
05:50:23,674 --> 05:50:26,243
but it is her district and is

8224
05:50:26,243 --> 05:50:27,110
important and we have similar

8225
05:50:27,110 --> 05:50:29,110
feelings on holds.

8226
05:50:35,860 --> 05:50:36,921
Because to me I'm surprised

8227
05:50:36,921 --> 05:50:38,122
because I even doubt the

8228
05:50:38,122 --> 05:50:40,122
constitutionality of multiple

8229
05:50:40,123 --> 05:50:41,226
holes but either way that's the

8230
05:50:41,226 --> 05:50:44,226
rules, I didn't set them.

8231
05:50:48,333 --> 05:50:50,134
I think it's important that and

8232
05:50:50,134 --> 05:50:52,170
again, a lot of good things

8233
05:50:52,170 --> 05:50:53,404
come out of tallahassee,

8234
05:50:53,404 --> 05:50:54,172
senator garcia being one of

8235
05:50:54,172 --> 05:50:55,373
them.

8236
05:50:55,373 --> 05:50:57,373
But through tallahassee.

8237
05:50:57,575 --> 05:51:00,645
But I do think it's important

8238
05:51:00,645 --> 05:51:03,848
that we deal with things in the

8239
05:51:03,848 --> 05:51:05,848
proper way.

8240
05:51:20,800 --> 05:51:21,000
>>chair: give me a second, you

8241
05:51:21,000 --> 05:51:22,935
okay?

8242
05:51:22,935 --> 05:51:24,804
>> I wanted to ask if you can

8243
05:51:24,804 --> 05:51:26,805
clarify and let us know

8244
05:51:26,805 --> 05:51:28,807
specifically that the hold that

8245
05:51:28,807 --> 05:51:29,875
everything that comes out of

8246
05:51:29,875 --> 05:51:31,110
tallahassee goes to one

8247
05:51:31,110 --> 05:51:32,946
commissioner and it has to go

8248
05:51:32,946 --> 05:51:34,180
to that commissioner even if

8249
05:51:34,180 --> 05:51:36,580
it's in her district.

8250
05:51:36,782 --> 05:51:38,817
>> senator garcia has a hold on

8251
05:51:38,817 --> 05:51:39,885
implementing language locally

8252
05:51:39,885 --> 05:51:41,540
for bills that come from

8253
05:51:41,540 --> 05:51:42,220
tallahassee, that's required

8254
05:51:42,220 --> 05:51:44,220
for your rules.

8255
05:51:44,230 --> 05:51:45,825
I know you have a legislative

8256
05:51:45,825 --> 05:51:46,826
request to modify in this

8257
05:51:46,826 --> 05:51:48,826
particular case.

8258
05:51:48,828 --> 05:51:51,980
>>vice chair mcghee: thank you,

8259
05:51:51,980 --> 05:51:53,660
commissioner regalado.

8260
05:51:53,660 --> 05:51:55,680
>>commissioner regalado: I will

8261
05:51:55,680 --> 05:51:57,468
agree with commissioner celia

8262
05:51:58,571 --> 05:52:00,607
cruz, that being said I talked

8263
05:52:00,607 --> 05:52:04,207
to manny and the family about

8264
05:52:05,312 --> 05:52:07,246
it and we are also excited, he

8265
05:52:07,246 --> 05:52:09,115
so deserving of it, such a

8266
05:52:09,115 --> 05:52:09,716
wonderful man but street

8267
05:52:09,716 --> 05:52:12,286
naming's and my district are

8268
05:52:12,286 --> 05:52:14,286
very delicate.

8269
05:52:29,669 --> 05:52:30,872
So I really think that

8270
05:52:30,872 --> 05:52:32,707
upholding the rule that we get

8271
05:52:32,707 --> 05:52:34,575
to decide even when it's a

8272
05:52:34,575 --> 05:52:35,743
tallahassee decision would be

8273
05:52:35,743 --> 05:52:37,578
best because we are the ones

8274
05:52:37,578 --> 05:52:38,746
that have to deal with

8275
05:52:38,746 --> 05:52:40,782
neighbors and the blowback,

8276
05:52:40,782 --> 05:52:42,684
this one is not controversial

8277
05:52:42,684 --> 05:52:44,552
at all, it's fantastic and I

8278
05:52:44,552 --> 05:52:45,720
don't think anyone disagree but

8279
05:52:45,720 --> 05:52:47,655
I've had some in my district

8280
05:52:47,655 --> 05:52:49,557
and I've had to take names off

8281
05:52:49,557 --> 05:52:50,759
streets in my district and

8282
05:52:50,759 --> 05:52:51,727
there's been pushback on

8283
05:52:51,727 --> 05:52:53,562
certain requests.

8284
05:52:53,562 --> 05:52:54,796
On this one not to be

8285
05:52:54,796 --> 05:52:56,698
territorial but we are the ones

8286
05:52:56,698 --> 05:52:57,832
that have to deal with it, we

8287
05:52:57,832 --> 05:52:59,734
are the ones best suited to

8288
05:52:59,734 --> 05:53:00,568
make a decision regarding

8289
05:53:00,568 --> 05:53:01,804
naming.

8290
05:53:01,804 --> 05:53:03,705
So I'm happy to support this

8291
05:53:03,705 --> 05:53:05,573
one, I hope we all get invited

8292
05:53:05,573 --> 05:53:06,808
so we can celebrate with his

8293
05:53:06,808 --> 05:53:08,710
family I think in terms of all

8294
05:53:08,710 --> 05:53:10,579
hold that's that broad, at some

8295
05:53:10,579 --> 05:53:13,215
point you draft and you no

8296
05:53:13,215 --> 05:53:15,500
longer have the hold if it's

8297
05:53:15,500 --> 05:53:16,985
every single implementing that

8298
05:53:16,985 --> 05:53:17,919
never ends, that's the gift

8299
05:53:17,919 --> 05:53:19,788
that keeps giving.

8300
05:53:19,788 --> 05:53:23,388
normally we have to be more

8301
05:53:24,226 --> 05:53:25,461
detailed in our legislative

8302
05:53:25,461 --> 05:53:27,429
request so I hope we can get to

8303
05:53:27,429 --> 05:53:29,298
that at some point because it

8304
05:53:29,298 --> 05:53:30,366
MAY intersect with other

8305
05:53:30,366 --> 05:53:32,201
legislative requests.

8306
05:53:32,201 --> 05:53:34,201
>>vice chair mcghee:

8307
05:53:34,203 --> 05:53:35,471
commissioner gilbert.

8308
05:53:35,471 --> 05:53:37,871
>>commissioner gilbert: I want

8309
05:53:38,207 --> 05:53:40,607
to echo everybody's sentiment

8310
05:53:42,445 --> 05:53:45,445
on manolo reyes, he drove

8311
05:53:55,225 --> 05:53:55,425
through district 1 once or

8312
05:53:55,425 --> 05:53:56,426
twice.

8313
05:53:56,426 --> 05:53:58,227
But he was a good guy.

8314
05:53:58,227 --> 05:53:59,695
Good public servants,

8315
05:53:59,695 --> 05:54:01,365
definitely worthy and we get

8316
05:54:01,365 --> 05:54:03,300
invited to the street naming I

8317
05:54:03,300 --> 05:54:05,202
would appreciate it so thank

8318
05:54:05,202 --> 05:54:06,403
you for allowing me to be

8319
05:54:06,403 --> 05:54:08,271
whatever it is but definitely

8320
05:54:08,271 --> 05:54:10,206
it's do so that's one thing in

8321
05:54:10,206 --> 05:54:11,375
the second thing is I know the

8322
05:54:11,375 --> 05:54:13,209
county attorney said that

8323
05:54:13,209 --> 05:54:15,412
there's a hold on this but I

8324
05:54:15,412 --> 05:54:17,247
think that decision probably

8325
05:54:17,247 --> 05:54:18,448
needs to be something that

8326
05:54:18,448 --> 05:54:20,316
comes from the chair because

8327
05:54:20,316 --> 05:54:21,585
when something is that broad

8328
05:54:21,585 --> 05:54:23,587
where the hold never gets

8329
05:54:23,587 --> 05:54:24,822
exhausted, so typically it's a

8330
05:54:24,822 --> 05:54:26,590
legislative hold, we call it a

8331
05:54:26,590 --> 05:54:26,824
hold but it's a drafting

8332
05:54:26,824 --> 05:54:28,792
request.

8333
05:54:28,792 --> 05:54:29,692
So there's no way to ever draft

8334
05:54:29,692 --> 05:54:31,692
out of this.

8335
05:54:34,198 --> 05:54:34,398
So it literally is an infinity

8336
05:54:34,398 --> 05:54:36,200
door.

8337
05:54:36,200 --> 05:54:40,400
So I don't know if this fits

8338
05:54:44,842 --> 05:54:46,777
within our structure in a way

8339
05:54:46,777 --> 05:54:47,111
that the rule actually

8340
05:54:47,111 --> 05:54:48,879
contemplates.

8341
05:54:48,879 --> 05:54:49,980
And I think some of the holes

8342
05:54:49,980 --> 05:54:51,249
are overbroad and senator

8343
05:54:51,249 --> 05:54:53,118
garcia actually doing this puts

8344
05:54:53,118 --> 05:54:55,620
a finer point on it but it

8345
05:54:55,620 --> 05:54:55,920
needs to be a way because it's

8346
05:54:55,920 --> 05:54:57,920
not a hold.

8347
05:54:58,489 --> 05:54:58,756
You're not holding it, your

8348
05:54:58,756 --> 05:55:00,756
drafting.

8349
05:55:05,300 --> 05:55:06,898
So we use them as holds but

8350
05:55:06,898 --> 05:55:08,990
they are meant to be used as

8351
05:55:08,990 --> 05:55:10,603
drafting so if you can't draft

8352
05:55:10,603 --> 05:55:12,504
your way out of it then it

8353
05:55:12,504 --> 05:55:14,406
might not fit within us, it's

8354
05:55:14,406 --> 05:55:15,407
something you ought to look at

8355
05:55:15,407 --> 05:55:17,407
after JANUARY.

8356
05:55:25,184 --> 05:55:27,152
>> commissioner lopez.

8357
05:55:27,152 --> 05:55:28,387
>>commissioner lopez: I want to

8358
05:55:28,387 --> 05:55:31,387
say manolo reyes was probably

8359
05:55:35,561 --> 05:55:37,396
one of the consonant elected

8360
05:55:37,396 --> 05:55:38,597
officials, I won't even call

8361
05:55:38,597 --> 05:55:40,533
him a politician, his beloved

8362
05:55:40,533 --> 05:55:42,535
in district 5 which he shared

8363
05:55:42,535 --> 05:55:43,603
with me as well not only when I

8364
05:55:43,603 --> 05:55:45,504
was steakhouse member for

8365
05:55:45,504 --> 05:55:47,406
district 13 but I did not get a

8366
05:55:47,406 --> 05:55:48,607
chance to work with him as a

8367
05:55:48,607 --> 05:55:50,443
county commissioner because he

8368
05:55:50,443 --> 05:55:52,412
passed away but I have to say

8369
05:55:52,412 --> 05:55:53,479
that I'm grateful that there

8370
05:55:53,479 --> 05:55:55,381
would be any effort to

8371
05:55:55,381 --> 05:55:57,781
celebrate and honor this

8372
05:56:05,250 --> 05:56:06,926
incredible man.

8373
05:56:06,926 --> 05:56:07,930
So much has been said about

8374
05:56:07,930 --> 05:56:08,928
him.

8375
05:56:08,928 --> 05:56:11,650
He is the one who came to my

8376
05:56:11,650 --> 05:56:12,933
office in tallahassee to remind

8377
05:56:12,933 --> 05:56:14,167
me when I was doing housing

8378
05:56:14,167 --> 05:56:16,200
that the ami in little havana

8379
05:56:16,200 --> 05:56:17,170
was not the same as in her

8380
05:56:17,170 --> 05:56:19,390
field and he had a vision

8381
05:56:19,390 --> 05:56:20,941
around policy that was lost

8382
05:56:20,941 --> 05:56:22,142
amongst many of us and that

8383
05:56:22,142 --> 05:56:24,440
created for me the ability to

8384
05:56:24,440 --> 05:56:25,312
look into something we've

8385
05:56:25,312 --> 05:56:27,712
discussed now recently with

8386
05:56:33,287 --> 05:56:34,488
commissioner bastien's

8387
05:56:34,488 --> 05:56:36,390
leadership on the ami report

8388
05:56:36,390 --> 05:56:38,291
that she's requested so this

8389
05:56:38,291 --> 05:56:39,459
was a man that cared deeply.

8390
05:56:39,459 --> 05:56:41,295
There are still his campaign

8391
05:56:41,295 --> 05:56:42,930
signs in my district as I

8392
05:56:42,930 --> 05:56:44,765
walked up the houses and have

8393
05:56:44,765 --> 05:56:46,667
not and they said there never

8394
05:56:46,667 --> 05:56:47,902
taking it down because of the

8395
05:56:47,902 --> 05:56:49,736
impact he made on the community

8396
05:56:49,736 --> 05:56:50,905
and in particular areas he

8397
05:56:50,905 --> 05:56:51,873
represented so thank you so

8398
05:56:51,873 --> 05:56:52,673
much, I guess renc

8399
05:56:52,673 --> 05:56:54,342
but

8400
05:56:54,342 --> 05:56:56,342
certainly commissioner celia

8401
05:57:10,124 --> 05:57:12,127
cruz, I know how deeply

8402
05:57:12,127 --> 05:57:12,494
impacted your district was and

8403
05:57:12,494 --> 05:57:14,229
how close it is.

8404
05:57:14,229 --> 05:57:16,131
I could not agree more.

8405
05:57:16,131 --> 05:57:17,365
These street meetings happen in

8406
05:57:17,365 --> 05:57:19,134
our districts and asked

8407
05:57:19,134 --> 05:57:20,369
commissioner regalado said we

8408
05:57:20,369 --> 05:57:22,304
are the ones that have to deal

8409
05:57:22,304 --> 05:57:24,273
with the community who wants to

8410
05:57:24,273 --> 05:57:26,275
be involved and if we are not

8411
05:57:26,275 --> 05:57:28,276
involved the commission outside

8412
05:57:28,276 --> 05:57:30,212
the district where the naming

8413
05:57:30,212 --> 05:57:30,446
will take place is leading the

8414
05:57:30,446 --> 05:57:32,348
charge.

8415
05:57:32,348 --> 05:57:34,150
It seems a bit of a disconnect

8416
05:57:34,150 --> 05:57:36,118
but I feel certain we can

8417
05:57:36,118 --> 05:57:38,153
clarify all this so everybody's

8418
05:57:38,153 --> 05:57:40,155
district is at least respected

8419
05:57:40,155 --> 05:57:42,158
these are the things that are

8420
05:57:42,158 --> 05:57:44,160
that deep in the community.

8421
05:57:44,160 --> 05:57:45,328
>>vice chair mcghee: thank you

8422
05:57:45,328 --> 05:57:46,161
senator garcia, I saw your

8423
05:57:46,161 --> 05:57:47,630
hand.

8424
05:57:47,630 --> 05:57:49,198
>>senator garcia: thank you

8425
05:57:49,198 --> 05:57:50,466
CHAIRMAN And I want to tell you

8426
05:57:50,466 --> 05:57:52,168
something that manolo reyes was

8427
05:57:52,168 --> 05:57:52,301
an amazing individual.

8428
05:57:52,301 --> 05:57:54,170
Ll of

8429
05:57:54,170 --> 05:57:55,371
us in the hispanic community

8430
05:57:55,371 --> 05:57:57,339
knew who he was, he was someone

8431
05:57:57,339 --> 05:58:01,539
who stood up for what was right

8432
05:58:03,146 --> 05:58:05,810
and he worked within the rules,

8433
05:58:05,810 --> 05:58:06,249
he's not someone that when he

8434
05:58:06,249 --> 05:58:08,117
made a decision or he took a

8435
05:58:08,117 --> 05:58:09,986
vote you knew where that vote

8436
05:58:09,986 --> 05:58:12,210
was coming from and it was

8437
05:58:12,210 --> 05:58:13,990
coming from a place of honesty

8438
05:58:13,990 --> 05:58:15,158
integrity and making sure he

8439
05:58:15,158 --> 05:58:16,993
stood up for his community.

8440
05:58:16,993 --> 05:58:18,161
He was a man I admired and

8441
05:58:18,161 --> 05:58:20,290
respected just like all of us

8442
05:58:20,290 --> 05:58:21,999
here and when we talk about a

8443
05:58:21,999 --> 05:58:23,133
person that was a voice for the

8444
05:58:23,133 --> 05:58:23,333
voiceless, that was manolo

8445
05:58:23,333 --> 05:58:25,202
reyes.

8446
05:58:25,202 --> 05:58:27,700
He stood up for all those that

8447
05:58:27,700 --> 05:58:31,270
did not have a voice, did not

8448
05:58:33,776 --> 05:58:34,944
care about the color of their

8449
05:58:34,944 --> 05:58:36,879
skin, where you came from,

8450
05:58:36,879 --> 05:58:38,748
where you lived or the amount

8451
05:58:38,748 --> 05:58:39,882
of money you had, that's what

8452
05:58:39,882 --> 05:58:41,784
made him an amazing public

8453
05:58:41,784 --> 05:58:43,752
servant and he 41 every time we

8454
05:58:43,752 --> 05:58:44,920
would take votes in the county

8455
05:58:44,920 --> 05:58:46,922
commission he would come so I

8456
05:58:46,922 --> 05:58:48,890
admired him for the positions

8457
05:58:48,890 --> 05:58:50,759
he took in the city of miami,

8458
05:58:50,759 --> 05:58:51,993
he took some strong positions

8459
05:58:51,993 --> 05:58:55,597
against the powers to be and he

8460
05:58:55,597 --> 05:58:58,597
really always spoke his mind

8461
05:59:13,180 --> 05:59:14,347
and did not care to be on the

8462
05:59:14,347 --> 05:59:15,182
side of those with money and

8463
05:59:15,182 --> 05:59:16,383
power.

8464
05:59:16,383 --> 05:59:18,318
You always stood on the side of

8465
05:59:18,318 --> 05:59:20,220
the people in the city of miami

8466
05:59:20,220 --> 05:59:22,188
was so grateful to have him.

8467
05:59:22,188 --> 05:59:23,289
And one of the biggest lessons

8468
05:59:23,289 --> 05:59:25,291
he left with me and you for

8469
05:59:25,291 --> 05:59:28,291
this many times before, doesn't

8470
05:59:28,827 --> 05:59:30,796
matter who gets the credit.

8471
05:59:30,796 --> 05:59:34,396
It just matters that it gets

8472
05:59:36,635 --> 05:59:38,536
done and if you rule with

8473
05:59:38,536 --> 05:59:41,339
integrity and respect and it

8474
05:59:41,339 --> 05:59:43,174
doesn't matter so to manolo

8475
05:59:43,174 --> 05:59:44,342
reyes and his family wherever

8476
05:59:44,342 --> 05:59:46,176
you are thank you for your

8477
05:59:46,176 --> 05:59:48,576
service to this community.

8478
05:59:58,655 --> 05:59:59,823
You're definitely missed and

8479
05:59:59,823 --> 06:00:01,825
commissioner, know that this

8480
06:00:01,825 --> 06:00:03,727
did not come from any nefarious

8481
06:00:03,727 --> 06:00:05,662
place, it came by following the

8482
06:00:05,662 --> 06:00:06,896
rules in this county commission

8483
06:00:06,896 --> 06:00:08,731
established and I look forward

8484
06:00:08,731 --> 06:00:10,666
to you leading the charge and

8485
06:00:10,666 --> 06:00:11,934
making sure we get this because

8486
06:00:11,934 --> 06:00:13,736
it's not in my district, this

8487
06:00:13,736 --> 06:00:14,904
is exactly where he is.

8488
06:00:14,904 --> 06:00:16,739
Thank you MR. CHAIRMAN and

8489
06:00:16,739 --> 06:00:17,973
thank you commissioners for

8490
06:00:17,973 --> 06:00:20,373
allowing me this opportunity.

8491
06:00:25,313 --> 06:00:27,248
>>.

8492
06:00:27,248 --> 06:00:28,483
>> I believe he died around 80

8493
06:00:28,483 --> 06:00:30,385
years old so he lived a very

8494
06:00:30,385 --> 06:00:33,985
full life there are many people

8495
06:00:36,957 --> 06:00:38,158
who knew him for a long time.

8496
06:00:38,158 --> 06:00:39,960
For he turned 80 years old.

8497
06:00:39,960 --> 06:00:41,940
I was not one of those

8498
06:00:41,940 --> 06:00:42,963
individuals that had the

8499
06:00:42,963 --> 06:00:44,130
pleasure of knowing him in his

8500
06:00:44,130 --> 06:00:45,999
younger years but it was

8501
06:00:45,999 --> 06:00:47,670
awesome to hear his friends

8502
06:00:47,670 --> 06:00:49,467
from then describe him.

8503
06:01:02,470 --> 06:01:03,248
I know, we should live for our

8504
06:01:03,248 --> 06:01:05,250
friends that told us stories

8505
06:01:05,250 --> 06:01:07,119
for us and allow our friends do

8506
06:01:07,119 --> 06:01:08,153
tell terrible stories of us to

8507
06:01:08,153 --> 06:01:10,121
keep us honest.

8508
06:01:10,121 --> 06:01:12,157
You have to add a little bit of

8509
06:01:12,157 --> 06:01:14,910
truth and fiction when you tell

8510
06:01:14,910 --> 06:01:16,270
stories of your friends but one

8511
06:01:16,270 --> 06:01:17,228
thing I remember perfectly

8512
06:01:17,228 --> 06:01:19,129
clear because I was serving on

8513
06:01:19,129 --> 06:01:21,310
the city of miami at the time

8514
06:01:21,310 --> 06:01:22,233
he was elected is he chose his

8515
06:01:22,233 --> 06:01:24,234
office and he chose his office

8516
06:01:24,234 --> 06:01:26,103
he had to do some renovations.

8517
06:01:26,103 --> 06:01:28,380
So when he goes to do the

8518
06:01:28,380 --> 06:01:29,172
renovations he's tearing down

8519
06:01:29,172 --> 06:01:31,141
walls inside of the office.

8520
06:01:31,141 --> 06:01:32,308
And in miami when you start

8521
06:01:32,308 --> 06:01:34,277
ripping down walls sometimes

8522
06:01:34,277 --> 06:01:37,113
you find money, sometimes you

8523
06:01:37,113 --> 06:01:39,150
find rodents.

8524
06:01:39,150 --> 06:01:40,216
You find quite a number of

8525
06:01:40,216 --> 06:01:42,251
things but this much of the

8526
06:01:42,251 --> 06:01:43,452
time there were newspapers

8527
06:01:43,452 --> 06:01:45,354
stuffed into the wall.

8528
06:01:45,354 --> 06:01:47,356
So as he's going through all

8529
06:01:47,356 --> 06:01:49,124
the newspapers stuffed into the

8530
06:01:49,124 --> 06:01:52,124
wall one of the articles

8531
06:01:59,434 --> 06:02:00,635
written in the newspaper was

8532
06:02:00,635 --> 06:02:02,570
about him running for office.

8533
06:02:02,570 --> 06:02:04,404
So if you know him you know he

8534
06:02:04,404 --> 06:02:04,672
ran many times for his

8535
06:02:04,672 --> 06:02:06,540
positions.

8536
06:02:06,540 --> 06:02:06,840
An event like my uncle roy he

8537
06:02:06,840 --> 06:02:08,409
finally won.

8538
06:02:08,409 --> 06:02:10,410
O he was in

8539
06:02:10,410 --> 06:02:12,412
office for a long time, we were

8540
06:02:12,412 --> 06:02:16,120
discussing him as he was this

8541
06:02:18,284 --> 06:02:18,551
perennial lifelong elected

8542
06:02:18,551 --> 06:02:19,452
official.

8543
06:02:19,452 --> 06:02:21,387
He was not that.

8544
06:02:21,387 --> 06:02:21,621
But he worked hard to get where

8545
06:02:21,621 --> 06:02:23,423
he was.

8546
06:02:23,423 --> 06:02:25,391
And I think with how he got to

8547
06:02:25,391 --> 06:02:29,591
where he was, he used his time

8548
06:02:30,496 --> 06:02:32,331
to advocate for people that and

8549
06:02:32,331 --> 06:02:35,331
for people for people that

8550
06:02:36,000 --> 06:02:37,169
where a little unkind.

8551
06:02:37,169 --> 06:02:39,137
So he was a great person to

8552
06:02:39,137 --> 06:02:41,600
work with, you did great things

8553
06:02:41,600 --> 06:02:42,140
during this time but I think

8554
06:02:42,140 --> 06:02:44,540
largely the thing people

8555
06:02:45,743 --> 06:02:46,978
remember most about him is not

8556
06:02:46,978 --> 06:02:48,812
necessarily the highlight of

8557
06:02:48,812 --> 06:02:51,812
his public service it was

8558
06:02:54,840 --> 06:02:55,285
really how he was family, when

8559
06:02:55,285 --> 06:02:57,187
you look at the way his family

8560
06:02:57,187 --> 06:02:59,189
looked on him, I think that's

8561
06:02:59,189 --> 06:03:02,789
the best legacy you could ever

8562
06:03:02,859 --> 06:03:04,627
have so many of us choose to do

8563
06:03:04,627 --> 06:03:05,761
things differently, like I

8564
06:03:05,761 --> 06:03:07,630
would have done things

8565
06:03:07,630 --> 06:03:08,631
differently if I work in

8566
06:03:08,631 --> 06:03:10,631
manolo's choose.

8567
06:03:12,735 --> 06:03:16,935
But what I would wish for my

8568
06:03:24,579 --> 06:03:26,514
life is what manolo reyes had

8569
06:03:26,514 --> 06:03:28,483
which is a family that loved

8570
06:03:28,483 --> 06:03:29,651
him dearly no matter what

8571
06:03:29,651 --> 06:03:31,619
decisions you made so I know

8572
06:03:31,619 --> 06:03:34,890
the people who lost him, or

8573
06:03:34,890 --> 06:03:35,956
family to manolo smile when

8574
06:03:35,956 --> 06:03:36,957
they think about his life over

8575
06:03:36,957 --> 06:03:39,126
the time they had.

8576
06:03:39,126 --> 06:03:40,794
So this is befitting of someone

8577
06:03:40,794 --> 06:03:42,829
who lived a good life.

8578
06:03:42,829 --> 06:03:46,429
So as someone who served within

8579
06:03:47,734 --> 06:03:48,902
I went to say at times we

8580
06:03:48,902 --> 06:03:50,836
agreed, at times we disagree

8581
06:03:50,836 --> 06:03:51,370
but always walking on the right

8582
06:03:51,370 --> 06:03:53,370
path.

8583
06:03:57,643 --> 06:03:59,643
>> commissioner cohen higgins.

8584
06:04:01,213 --> 06:04:03,182
>>.

8585
06:04:03,182 --> 06:04:04,316
>>commissioner bermudez:

8586
06:04:04,316 --> 06:04:06,184
commissioner gilbert

8587
06:04:06,184 --> 06:04:08,186
enlightened us on the definite

8588
06:04:08,186 --> 06:04:10,188
vision of a hold, I'd like to

8589
06:04:10,188 --> 06:04:11,355
make sure we can have that

8590
06:04:11,355 --> 06:04:13,224
discussion based on that the

8591
06:04:13,224 --> 06:04:16,193
second thing MR. CHAIRMAN I

8592
06:04:16,193 --> 06:04:18,129
like to be the first guy to

8593
06:04:18,129 --> 06:04:20,164
declare a hold on all holds but

8594
06:04:20,164 --> 06:04:22,164
commissioner gilbert

8595
06:04:27,671 --> 06:04:29,573
subsequently to generate 2027.

8596
06:04:29,573 --> 06:04:31,575
>> do you want the county

8597
06:04:31,575 --> 06:04:31,842
attorney to answer the first

8598
06:04:31,842 --> 06:04:33,777
question.

8599
06:04:33,777 --> 06:04:36,646
>> I think he made a very valid

8600
06:04:36,646 --> 06:04:36,880
point but the second one I'm

8601
06:04:36,880 --> 06:04:38,880
serious.

8602
06:04:44,487 --> 06:04:46,388
I was the first.

8603
06:04:46,388 --> 06:04:49,988
>> can we get someone to move

8604
06:04:54,196 --> 06:04:54,429
the item amended supplement,

8605
06:04:54,429 --> 06:04:55,330
second.

8606
06:04:55,330 --> 06:04:56,430
Do we have a second?

8607
06:04:56,430 --> 06:04:57,299
All in favor.

8608
06:04:57,299 --> 06:04:59,167
All against.

8609
06:04:59,167 --> 06:05:02,167
Show that item passes, next

8610
06:05:03,805 --> 06:05:06,805
item up is 8a3, commissioner

8611
06:05:17,784 --> 06:05:18,785
from district 7 you pulled this

8612
06:05:18,785 --> 06:05:19,986
item.

8613
06:05:19,986 --> 06:05:21,855
>>commissioner regalado: I

8614
06:05:21,855 --> 06:05:23,789
wanted the director to ed, I'm

8615
06:05:23,789 --> 06:05:24,924
glad we are finally getting to

8616
06:05:24,924 --> 06:05:26,792
the jet fuel storage.

8617
06:05:26,792 --> 06:05:28,260
Ralph has been working on it

8618
06:05:28,260 --> 06:05:29,795
for some time but I believe

8619
06:05:29,795 --> 06:05:32,795
it's worth a quick mentioned.

8620
06:05:33,565 --> 06:05:34,733
>>vice chair mcghee: is there a

8621
06:05:34,733 --> 06:05:36,635
specific question or do you

8622
06:05:36,635 --> 06:05:40,539
want tim to give an overview of

8623
06:05:40,539 --> 06:05:42,600
this item.

8624
06:05:42,600 --> 06:05:43,541
>>commissioner regalado: we

8625
06:05:43,541 --> 06:05:45,543
don't have to get into

8626
06:05:45,543 --> 06:05:46,711
redundancy but just a general

8627
06:05:46,711 --> 06:05:48,746
overview in terms of how it

8628
06:05:48,746 --> 06:05:50,514
gets us closer to compliance

8629
06:05:50,514 --> 06:05:51,515
from an infrastructure

8630
06:05:51,515 --> 06:05:53,515
perspective.

8631
06:05:58,788 --> 06:05:59,990
>> last year we processed 4.3

8632
06:05:59,990 --> 06:06:03,590
billion gallons of jet fuel at

8633
06:06:11,401 --> 06:06:13,269
mia which is a record year for

8634
06:06:13,269 --> 06:06:14,604
us and we currently function 3

8635
06:06:14,604 --> 06:06:16,439
and a half days of reserve so

8636
06:06:16,439 --> 06:06:18,306
if something goes wrong with

8637
06:06:18,306 --> 06:06:20,242
the port everglades pipeline we

8638
06:06:20,242 --> 06:06:20,542
go on reserves for however long

8639
06:06:20,542 --> 06:06:22,444
that takes.

8640
06:06:22,444 --> 06:06:24,479
We have nine tanks which help

8641
06:06:24,479 --> 06:06:26,362
us maintain those reserves and

8642
06:06:26,362 --> 06:06:28,216
this project does all those

8643
06:06:28,216 --> 06:06:29,417
nine tanks yield a 12 billion

8644
06:06:29,417 --> 06:06:31,286
capacity in storage under this

8645
06:06:31,286 --> 06:06:33,220
project does phase one of the

8646
06:06:33,220 --> 06:06:36,220
two-phase project, it adds an

8647
06:06:38,425 --> 06:06:40,425
additional 4 million gallon

8648
06:06:40,427 --> 06:06:41,695
tank that will increase our

8649
06:06:41,695 --> 06:06:43,564
capacity by 4 million gallons

8650
06:06:43,564 --> 06:06:45,432
the following thing phase 2

8651
06:06:45,432 --> 06:06:46,633
will add 2 4 million tanks

8652
06:06:46,633 --> 06:06:48,568
which is 8 million total when

8653
06:06:48,568 --> 06:06:52,768
you add it up it will double

8654
06:06:54,274 --> 06:06:55,474
our storage capacity, phase 1

8655
06:06:55,474 --> 06:06:58,277
and phase 2 which goes a long

8656
06:06:58,277 --> 06:06:59,545
way towards us maintaining our

8657
06:06:59,545 --> 06:07:01,280
reserves and increasing our

8658
06:07:01,280 --> 06:07:03,680
fuel capacity which we

8659
06:07:06,180 --> 06:07:07,218
desperately need and we can't

8660
06:07:07,218 --> 06:07:09,540
talk about the redundancy

8661
06:07:09,540 --> 06:07:10,155
because that's on other

8662
06:07:10,155 --> 06:07:12,570
projects but this as an

8663
06:07:12,570 --> 06:07:13,191
important project because of

8664
06:07:13,191 --> 06:07:16,791
the amount of fuel we are

8665
06:07:18,396 --> 06:07:19,664
processing every year.

8666
06:07:19,664 --> 06:07:21,532
>>commissioner regalado: there

8667
06:07:21,532 --> 06:07:23,534
was going to be a piece of the

8668
06:07:23,534 --> 06:07:25,402
vic so that's why this item is

8669
06:07:25,402 --> 06:07:26,604
different because the bank

8670
06:07:26,604 --> 06:07:28,572
wasn't able to do this piece

8671
06:07:28,572 --> 06:07:30,407
and we've received an item that

8672
06:07:30,407 --> 06:07:31,641
dissolved the electrical and

8673
06:07:31,641 --> 06:07:33,643
all this other stuff so this

8674
06:07:33,643 --> 06:07:35,478
was the missing component in

8675
06:07:35,478 --> 06:07:35,845
terms of infrastructure so

8676
06:07:35,845 --> 06:07:37,647
thank you ralph.

8677
06:07:37,647 --> 06:07:39,549
>>commissioner gonzalez: it

8678
06:07:39,549 --> 06:07:41,417
moved by commissioner regalado

8679
06:07:41,417 --> 06:07:43,419
do we have a second, all in

8680
06:07:43,419 --> 06:07:44,553
favor you all against, show the

8681
06:07:44,553 --> 06:07:46,555
item passes, let's move to 8

8682
06:07:46,555 --> 06:07:47,890
g1, we're almost done, district

8683
06:07:47,890 --> 06:07:49,758
13 you pulled this item.

8684
06:07:49,758 --> 06:07:50,993
>> is a quick question, we

8685
06:07:50,993 --> 06:07:52,794
recently a couple months ago

8686
06:07:52,794 --> 06:07:54,290
passed this budget.

8687
06:07:54,290 --> 06:07:57,290
Because we were having budgets

8688
06:07:58,366 --> 06:07:59,367
coming to us, I want to ask a

8689
06:07:59,367 --> 06:08:00,602
question for the

8690
06:08:00,602 --> 06:08:03,602
administration, if we have what

8691
06:08:19,753 --> 06:08:21,721
is the status of the budgets.

8692
06:08:21,721 --> 06:08:23,623
We had a big sneeze back here.

8693
06:08:23,623 --> 06:08:24,824
>> through the chair george

8694
06:08:24,824 --> 06:08:27,224
fernandez office of management

8695
06:08:36,360 --> 06:08:38,400
and budget, yes we did hold two

8696
06:08:38,400 --> 06:08:40,390
training sessions for the cra

8697
06:08:40,390 --> 06:08:41,174
someone recently as last week

8698
06:08:41,174 --> 06:08:42,943
so that 2627 budgets will

8699
06:08:42,943 --> 06:08:44,111
indeed everything in the

8700
06:08:44,111 --> 06:08:46,460
resolution we've approved.

8701
06:08:46,460 --> 06:08:48,140
>> by then we will have them

8702
06:08:48,140 --> 06:08:49,115
all standardized, all the

8703
06:08:49,115 --> 06:08:51,180
details you asked for.

8704
06:08:51,180 --> 06:08:52,860
>> if not they will not be

8705
06:08:52,860 --> 06:08:53,253
placed on the agenda.

8706
06:08:53,253 --> 06:08:54,955
>> I approve the item.

8707
06:08:54,955 --> 06:08:56,955
> MR. Lopez.

8708
06:08:56,957 --> 06:08:58,125
>> I'll second it but I have a

8709
06:08:58,125 --> 06:09:00,127
question, does that include how

8710
06:09:00,127 --> 06:09:02,964
to create a budget narrative?

8711
06:09:02,964 --> 06:09:04,932
>> you've asked them to include

8712
06:09:04,932 --> 06:09:05,166
additional information in the

8713
06:09:05,166 --> 06:09:07,100
budget.

8714
06:09:07,100 --> 06:09:08,680
>> but have they been told how

8715
06:09:08,680 --> 06:09:09,936
to do a budget, do they

8716
06:09:09,936 --> 06:09:11,390
understand what a budget

8717
06:09:11,390 --> 06:09:12,940
narrative is, do they

8718
06:09:12,940 --> 06:09:14,108
understand when you're

8719
06:09:14,108 --> 06:09:16,143
explaining it such as let's

8720
06:09:16,143 --> 06:09:18,145
take travel and list every

8721
06:09:18,145 --> 06:09:20,470
travel you intend to make, what

8722
06:09:20,470 --> 06:09:21,215
the costs are for airfare,

8723
06:09:21,215 --> 06:09:22,750
hotels, taxis etc. Have they

8724
06:09:22,750 --> 06:09:24,652
learned that.

8725
06:09:24,652 --> 06:09:25,853
>> I don't know if it will be

8726
06:09:25,853 --> 06:09:28,655
that detailed but we did ask

8727
06:09:28,655 --> 06:09:29,656
for additional details on your

8728
06:09:29,656 --> 06:09:31,656
expenditures.

8729
06:09:34,695 --> 06:09:36,497
>> I would like very much for

8730
06:09:36,497 --> 06:09:37,698
someone to show me what a

8731
06:09:37,698 --> 06:09:39,701
budget narrative looks like.

8732
06:09:39,701 --> 06:09:41,603
If you think it's acceptable

8733
06:09:41,603 --> 06:09:42,804
because it's probably not going

8734
06:09:42,804 --> 06:09:44,739
to be acceptable to me.

8735
06:09:44,739 --> 06:09:46,741
> do you mind reaching out

8736
06:09:46,741 --> 06:09:48,510
and setting up an appointment,

8737
06:09:48,510 --> 06:09:49,577
does that work for you?

8738
06:09:49,577 --> 06:09:51,513
Show the item moved and

8739
06:09:51,513 --> 06:09:53,515
seconded by commissioner lopez,

8740
06:09:53,515 --> 06:09:53,682
all in favor signify by saying

8741
06:09:53,682 --> 06:09:55,551
aye.

8742
06:09:55,551 --> 06:09:56,618
All right, coming home to the

8743
06:09:56,618 --> 06:09:57,519
home stretch, item 11 a1

8744
06:09:57,519 --> 06:09:58,720
district 12.

8745
06:09:58,720 --> 06:10:00,523
Commissioner I believe you

8746
06:10:00,523 --> 06:10:02,491
pulled this item.

8747
06:10:02,491 --> 06:10:05,491
>> I'm supportive, I would like

8748
06:10:06,295 --> 06:10:08,163
to a resolution to be in

8749
06:10:08,163 --> 06:10:09,364
district 12 because we have a

8750
06:10:09,364 --> 06:10:12,364
lot of illegal dumping in

8751
06:10:21,244 --> 06:10:23,146
district 12 so I'd like to take

8752
06:10:23,146 --> 06:10:25,148
a look, if you're looking at

8753
06:10:25,148 --> 06:10:27,148
district 2 and district 12.

8754
06:10:27,183 --> 06:10:28,351
>>vice chair mcghee: it's

8755
06:10:28,351 --> 06:10:29,151
getting loud, we are almost

8756
06:10:29,151 --> 06:10:31,151
done.

8757
06:10:31,154 --> 06:10:32,322
Commissioner gonzales I do

8758
06:10:32,322 --> 06:10:34,157
believe this is your item.

8759
06:10:34,157 --> 06:10:35,625
Trends fives item?

8760
06:10:35,625 --> 06:10:37,160
>>commissioner gonzalez: I

8761
06:10:37,160 --> 06:10:40,631
coprime but she is the main

8762
06:10:40,631 --> 06:10:41,832
sponsor.

8763
06:10:41,832 --> 06:10:43,667
>>commissioner bermudez: I'm

8764
06:10:43,667 --> 06:10:44,901
glad it was cosponsored by

8765
06:10:44,901 --> 06:10:46,670
commissioner gonzalez because

8766
06:10:46,670 --> 06:10:48,605
on the other side it's my

8767
06:10:48,605 --> 06:10:50,600
district, we get encampments so

8768
06:10:50,600 --> 06:10:51,608
she's not here but I be

8769
06:10:51,608 --> 06:10:52,776
surprised if she was bothered

8770
06:10:52,776 --> 06:10:55,879
and if not I will bring one

8771
06:10:55,879 --> 06:10:57,848
next month.

8772
06:10:57,848 --> 06:10:59,490
>>vice chair mcghee: show the

8773
06:10:59,490 --> 06:11:01,786
item amended to include it will

8774
06:11:01,786 --> 06:11:03,788
get a nod from her office,

8775
06:11:03,788 --> 06:11:05,210
commissioner steinberg.

8776
06:11:05,210 --> 06:11:06,791
>>commissioner steinberg: I

8777
06:11:06,791 --> 06:11:08,158
bought out a lot of the

8778
06:11:08,158 --> 06:11:10,127
district to boundaries.

8779
06:11:10,127 --> 06:11:12,130
>>vice chair mcghee: include

8780
06:11:12,130 --> 06:11:13,230
commissioner steinberg in this

8781
06:11:13,230 --> 06:11:15,230
report, anyone else?

8782
06:11:15,366 --> 06:11:17,334
Maybe everybody.

8783
06:11:17,334 --> 06:11:18,502
Commissioner hardemon is

8784
06:11:18,502 --> 06:11:21,205
district also to be included,

8785
06:11:21,205 --> 06:11:23,408
anyone else needs to be

8786
06:11:23,408 --> 06:11:25,243
included, commissioner includes

8787
06:11:25,243 --> 06:11:26,277
her, does anyone else need to

8788
06:11:26,277 --> 06:11:27,478
be included.

8789
06:11:27,478 --> 06:11:29,346
>>commissioner regalado: I am

8790
06:11:29,346 --> 06:11:31,249
good but we will talk about

8791
06:11:31,249 --> 06:11:33,249
this on thursday.

8792
06:11:39,157 --> 06:11:41,126
>>chair:

8793
06:11:41,126 --> 06:11:42,394
>>vice chair mcghee: include

8794
06:11:42,394 --> 06:11:43,295
district 9 also.

8795
06:11:43,295 --> 06:11:45,129
Someone make a motion to

8796
06:11:45,129 --> 06:11:46,297
approve the item, second.

8797
06:11:46,297 --> 06:11:48,233
All in favor of the amended

8798
06:11:48,233 --> 06:11:49,167
version of this item signify by

8799
06:11:49,167 --> 06:11:51,700
saying aye.

8800
06:11:51,700 --> 06:11:52,137
show the item passes, 11a3, I

8801
06:11:52,137 --> 06:11:54,537
believe this was you

8802
06:11:56,708 --> 06:11:58,209
commissioner steinberg.

8803
06:11:58,209 --> 06:11:59,711
>>commissioner steinberg: we

8804
06:11:59,711 --> 06:12:01,714
did not discuss this at

8805
06:12:01,714 --> 06:12:03,716
committee thoroughly, we have

8806
06:12:03,716 --> 06:12:06,716
another item at that committee

8807
06:12:12,491 --> 06:12:14,327
meeting so as I had a chance to

8808
06:12:14,327 --> 06:12:15,561
further dive into this item I

8809
06:12:15,561 --> 06:12:17,296
think the intent is good and I

8810
06:12:17,296 --> 06:12:19,298
have a lot of concerns.

8811
06:12:19,298 --> 06:12:20,499
In my district particularly I

8812
06:12:20,499 --> 06:12:22,402
don't know that we can have a

8813
06:12:22,402 --> 06:12:24,303
blanket more intense use since

8814
06:12:24,303 --> 06:12:25,571
we already have a lot of

8815
06:12:25,571 --> 06:12:27,473
intensity in the district and I

8816
06:12:27,473 --> 06:12:29,408
know the level is very high but

8817
06:12:29,408 --> 06:12:30,577
I am concerned about what

8818
06:12:30,577 --> 06:12:32,512
pandora's box we are going to

8819
06:12:32,512 --> 06:12:35,512
be opening and what constitutes

8820
06:12:37,517 --> 06:12:39,885
this vertical ag use.

8821
06:12:39,885 --> 06:12:43,485
They could all be hydroponic in

8822
06:12:46,126 --> 06:12:47,327
the future, who knows and that

8823
06:12:47,327 --> 06:12:48,127
maybe a good thing or a bad

8824
06:12:48,127 --> 06:12:50,127
thing.

8825
06:12:52,633 --> 06:12:53,800
It's not necessarily regarding

8826
06:12:53,800 --> 06:12:55,635
that but there are a lot of

8827
06:12:55,635 --> 06:12:56,903
unknowns in this and I don't

8828
06:12:56,903 --> 06:12:58,838
know what the parameters will

8829
06:12:58,838 --> 06:13:03,638
be so I know we are asking them

8830
06:13:06,113 --> 06:13:07,247
to bring back something to our

8831
06:13:07,247 --> 06:13:09,149
cdmp and I want to know if we

8832
06:13:09,149 --> 06:13:11,118
can exclude my district because

8833
06:13:11,118 --> 06:13:13,200
I don't think we need to have

8834
06:13:13,200 --> 06:13:14,255
more intensity uses just

8835
06:13:14,255 --> 06:13:16,223
blanketed, that is something we

8836
06:13:16,223 --> 06:13:18,240
are concerned with number two,

8837
06:13:18,240 --> 06:13:18,325
who's going to decide the

8838
06:13:18,325 --> 06:13:20,160
parameters?

8839
06:13:20,160 --> 06:13:21,129
I don't know who can answer

8840
06:13:21,129 --> 06:13:23,129
that.

8841
06:13:23,263 --> 06:13:24,665
>>vice chair mcghee:

8842
06:13:24,665 --> 06:13:26,300
commissioner gonzalez, I

8843
06:13:26,300 --> 06:13:27,434
believe this is your item, are

8844
06:13:27,434 --> 06:13:29,236
you amenable to having her

8845
06:13:29,236 --> 06:13:30,438
district excluded and also

8846
06:13:30,438 --> 06:13:32,838
understanding what the second

8847
06:13:39,914 --> 06:13:41,116
question was, who falls to it.

8848
06:13:41,116 --> 06:13:43,116
>>commissioner gonzalez: I

8849
06:13:43,118 --> 06:13:45,860
would defer to the department,

8850
06:13:45,860 --> 06:13:46,921
do we have someone to speak on

8851
06:13:46,921 --> 06:13:49,891
this item as the request was

8852
06:13:49,891 --> 06:13:51,927
made by commissioner gonzalez.

8853
06:13:51,927 --> 06:13:53,896
>>commissioner steinberg: great

8854
06:13:53,896 --> 06:13:55,300
concept but I don't know how it

8855
06:13:55,300 --> 06:13:56,998
translates to reality.

8856
06:13:56,998 --> 06:13:58,967
>>mayor cava: through the chair

8857
06:13:58,967 --> 06:14:00,100
we are looking for the our er

8858
06:14:00,100 --> 06:14:02,100
director MISS Gomez.

8859
06:14:13,349 --> 06:14:14,650
>> let's, commissioner.

8860
06:14:14,650 --> 06:14:16,552
>>commissioner regalado:,again

8861
06:14:16,552 --> 06:14:18,454
I would like to be excluded, I

8862
06:14:18,454 --> 06:14:19,587
read the item also with some

8863
06:14:19,587 --> 06:14:21,423
concern from a price point a

8864
06:14:21,423 --> 06:14:21,776
few of us might already be

8865
06:14:21,776 --> 06:14:23,459
excluded.

8866
06:14:23,459 --> 06:14:24,860
But that being said I don't

8867
06:14:24,860 --> 06:14:26,280
think it's compatible with the

8868
06:14:26,280 --> 06:14:27,963
uses I have in my district.

8869
06:14:27,963 --> 06:14:29,832
I will say also when reading

8870
06:14:29,832 --> 06:14:31,167
the item I have concerns about

8871
06:14:31,167 --> 06:14:32,135
kind of the intersection of the

8872
06:14:32,135 --> 06:14:34,535
state law on this.

8873
06:14:43,913 --> 06:14:45,915
Like, what is ag for the state

8874
06:14:45,915 --> 06:14:46,182
and designation by the property

8875
06:14:46,182 --> 06:14:47,917
appraiser.

8876
06:14:47,917 --> 06:14:49,520
There's a lot of different

8877
06:14:49,520 --> 06:14:50,921
things, I know when we were

8878
06:14:50,921 --> 06:14:53,921
working on agri-tourism we all

8879
06:14:54,570 --> 06:14:56,590
learned a lot about they wanted

8880
06:14:56,590 --> 06:14:57,260
to do like a high-rise with

8881
06:14:57,260 --> 06:14:59,162
fish, I don't know if you guys

8882
06:14:59,162 --> 06:15:00,163
rumor that there was a fish

8883
06:15:00,163 --> 06:15:02,320
high-rise in there.

8884
06:15:02,320 --> 06:15:03,266
We ended up taking out because

8885
06:15:03,266 --> 06:15:05,202
it was just what it was some of

8886
06:15:05,202 --> 06:15:07,838
this in terms of using height

8887
06:15:07,838 --> 06:15:08,171
so we actually took this out of

8888
06:15:08,171 --> 06:15:09,939
agri-tourism.

8889
06:15:09,939 --> 06:15:11,876
I want to make sure all these

8890
06:15:11,876 --> 06:15:13,777
pieces move together so that

8891
06:15:13,777 --> 06:15:17,377
when staff looks at this they

8892
06:15:19,616 --> 06:15:21,752
look at agri-tourism, the

8893
06:15:21,752 --> 06:15:23,621
property appraiser's definition

8894
06:15:23,621 --> 06:15:25,556
county state designation to

8895
06:15:25,556 --> 06:15:27,224
make sure whatever we are

8896
06:15:27,224 --> 06:15:29,225
agreeing to also matches up

8897
06:15:29,225 --> 06:15:31,196
with the regulations of

8898
06:15:31,196 --> 06:15:33,196
agriculture and specifically

8899
06:15:33,197 --> 06:15:34,365
agri-tourism because there's a

8900
06:15:34,365 --> 06:15:35,199
lot of ways it could go

8901
06:15:35,199 --> 06:15:36,367
sideways.

8902
06:15:36,367 --> 06:15:38,202
And if we are excluding

8903
06:15:38,202 --> 06:15:41,202
districts we will gladly bow

8904
06:15:42,574 --> 06:15:44,542
out of this one.

8905
06:15:44,542 --> 06:15:45,643
>> to clarify the actual

8906
06:15:45,643 --> 06:15:46,544
resolution says where

8907
06:15:46,544 --> 06:15:48,544
compatible.

8908
06:15:56,955 --> 06:15:58,923
With the surrounding areas.

8909
06:15:58,923 --> 06:16:00,859
And I'd still like to defer to

8910
06:16:00,859 --> 06:16:01,160
the department for the

8911
06:16:01,160 --> 06:16:02,961
explanation.

8912
06:16:02,961 --> 06:16:04,863
This was taken word for word

8913
06:16:04,863 --> 06:16:06,932
from the agricultural study,

8914
06:16:06,932 --> 06:16:07,933
this is specifically from the

8915
06:16:07,933 --> 06:16:09,867
agriculture study.

8916
06:16:09,867 --> 06:16:11,370
>> I'll move commissioner

8917
06:16:11,370 --> 06:16:12,938
gilbert while we are waiting

8918
06:16:12,938 --> 06:16:13,872
for lourdes to come to the

8919
06:16:13,872 --> 06:16:15,841
podium.

8920
06:16:15,841 --> 06:16:18,241
>>commissioner gilbert: I was

8921
06:16:22,114 --> 06:16:24,500
there with the commissioner and

8922
06:16:24,500 --> 06:16:25,251
the reason why is I don't know

8923
06:16:25,251 --> 06:16:27,520
that excluding is the answer

8924
06:16:27,520 --> 06:16:29,540
but if something is not

8925
06:16:29,540 --> 06:16:30,255
compatible it should say that

8926
06:16:30,255 --> 06:16:32,158
it's not compatible.

8927
06:16:32,158 --> 06:16:32,409
It is less compatible than

8928
06:16:32,409 --> 06:16:34,600
others.

8929
06:16:34,600 --> 06:16:36,428
If you start excluding

8930
06:16:36,428 --> 06:16:38,297
geographic areas, because

8931
06:16:38,297 --> 06:16:39,365
before they even do the study

8932
06:16:39,365 --> 06:16:40,299
we determined it's not

8933
06:16:40,299 --> 06:16:41,501
compatible.

8934
06:16:41,501 --> 06:16:43,336
Then you're saying to the rest

8935
06:16:43,336 --> 06:16:43,603
of us, they can only do it in

8936
06:16:43,603 --> 06:16:45,603
our areas.

8937
06:16:47,774 --> 06:16:49,575
So if me, I think it's probably

8938
06:16:49,575 --> 06:16:50,811
a better practice for us to

8939
06:16:50,811 --> 06:16:54,411
make them list the criteria and

8940
06:16:58,217 --> 06:17:00,185
say why, and I agree on the

8941
06:17:00,185 --> 06:17:01,388
beach and the gangways will be

8942
06:17:01,388 --> 06:17:03,788
incompatible but list these

8943
06:17:07,928 --> 06:17:09,829
things as practice and why they

8944
06:17:09,829 --> 06:17:11,131
become less compatible so we

8945
06:17:11,131 --> 06:17:12,967
get to see the information as

8946
06:17:12,967 --> 06:17:14,100
it's ranked against the rest of

8947
06:17:14,100 --> 06:17:15,902
the other districts.

8948
06:17:15,902 --> 06:17:18,902
>> thank you, so what you

8949
06:17:24,411 --> 06:17:27,247
missed is there were questions

8950
06:17:27,247 --> 06:17:28,415
as relates to exclusion and

8951
06:17:28,415 --> 06:17:30,350
compatibility and so what I

8952
06:17:30,350 --> 06:17:32,420
would do is turn the floor back

8953
06:17:32,420 --> 06:17:34,422
over to commissioner steinberg

8954
06:17:34,422 --> 06:17:35,255
so she can ask the question

8955
06:17:35,255 --> 06:17:36,724
directly.

8956
06:17:36,724 --> 06:17:38,826
>> so this item I know it's

8957
06:17:38,826 --> 06:17:40,795
about vertical agriculture.

8958
06:17:40,795 --> 06:17:42,730
I already have, we go district

8959
06:17:42,730 --> 06:17:44,632
by district, we don't have

8960
06:17:44,632 --> 06:17:45,833
sprawl and that's okay, we

8961
06:17:45,833 --> 06:17:47,768
balance all of that but in this

8962
06:17:47,768 --> 06:17:49,670
there could be more intense

8963
06:17:49,670 --> 06:17:53,270
uses that I have concerns about

8964
06:18:06,870 --> 06:18:08,156
and also who will be deciding

8965
06:18:08,156 --> 06:18:10,124
the parameters ultimately?

8966
06:18:10,124 --> 06:18:12,270
What is it you are comparing

8967
06:18:12,270 --> 06:18:13,929
with this item to bring back to

8968
06:18:13,929 --> 06:18:15,630
us because everything we read

8969
06:18:15,630 --> 06:18:16,932
whether it was in this

8970
06:18:16,932 --> 06:18:18,990
agriculture study, whether in

8971
06:18:18,990 --> 06:18:18,934
the memo was all very high

8972
06:18:18,934 --> 06:18:20,135
level.

8973
06:18:20,135 --> 06:18:22,700
So I don't know if the reality

8974
06:18:22,700 --> 06:18:23,939
of what we are trying to put

8975
06:18:23,939 --> 06:18:24,206
forward is going to translate

8976
06:18:24,206 --> 06:18:26,740
correctly.

8977
06:18:26,740 --> 06:18:27,943
>> it would ultimately come to

8978
06:18:27,943 --> 06:18:29,144
you for adoption, this is

8979
06:18:29,144 --> 06:18:31,470
directing us to do an analysis

8980
06:18:31,470 --> 06:18:32,949
and to make an evaluation so we

8981
06:18:32,949 --> 06:18:34,183
would prepare a report with our

8982
06:18:34,183 --> 06:18:36,952
findings that any changes would

8983
06:18:36,952 --> 06:18:38,153
come before you in the form of

8984
06:18:38,153 --> 06:18:39,955
comprehensive plan amendments.

8985
06:18:39,955 --> 06:18:41,570
So you would have full

8986
06:18:41,570 --> 06:18:42,325
information as to what

8987
06:18:42,325 --> 06:18:43,960
parameters are being

8988
06:18:43,960 --> 06:18:45,128
recommended, if there were any

8989
06:18:45,128 --> 06:18:46,963
geographic areas, all that

8990
06:18:46,963 --> 06:18:47,196
would come before you for

8991
06:18:47,196 --> 06:18:48,300
action.

8992
06:18:48,300 --> 06:18:49,165
>>.

8993
06:18:49,165 --> 06:18:51,168
>> I understand, so in terms of

8994
06:18:51,168 --> 06:18:52,402
the type of vertical, can you

8995
06:18:52,402 --> 06:18:55,805
give me an example because when

8996
06:18:55,805 --> 06:18:57,805
you're talking about

8997
06:18:57,807 --> 06:18:59,807
compatibility, where exactly,

8998
06:18:59,809 --> 06:19:01,780
obviously is not going to be

8999
06:19:01,780 --> 06:19:04,678
compatible in an area that does

9000
06:19:05,415 --> 06:19:06,315
not have vertical environments.

9001
06:19:06,315 --> 06:19:08,315
Or will it?

9002
06:19:08,485 --> 06:19:11,485
I'm trying to understand what

9003
06:19:13,230 --> 06:19:14,925
the vision is potentially.

9004
06:19:14,925 --> 06:19:16,827
>> I think in the ag study

9005
06:19:16,827 --> 06:19:17,994
there are some industrial

9006
06:19:17,994 --> 06:19:19,994
vertical farming operations

9007
06:19:21,532 --> 06:19:22,632
that I don't know that they

9008
06:19:22,632 --> 06:19:24,535
take in the whole here.

9009
06:19:24,535 --> 06:19:26,503
So it's one way of potentially

9010
06:19:26,503 --> 06:19:28,503
supporting proliferation of

9011
06:19:30,273 --> 06:19:31,342
agriculture in more compact

9012
06:19:31,342 --> 06:19:32,576
spaces which could be

9013
06:19:32,576 --> 06:19:34,976
compatible with different uses,

9014
06:19:35,512 --> 06:19:37,140
we have to look at is this

9015
06:19:37,140 --> 06:19:39,140
something that's more

9016
06:19:40,350 --> 06:19:41,552
appropriate in an industrial

9017
06:19:41,552 --> 06:19:43,421
area, could it be commercial

9018
06:19:43,421 --> 06:19:46,421
areas, that's the purpose of

9019
06:19:46,857 --> 06:19:48,857
the analysis.

9020
06:19:57,535 --> 06:19:58,669
>> vertical farming is

9021
06:19:58,669 --> 06:20:00,606
referenced to be a style of

9022
06:20:00,606 --> 06:20:02,541
growing usually done indoors

9023
06:20:02,541 --> 06:20:04,442
with many levels and it can go

9024
06:20:04,442 --> 06:20:06,178
as high or as low, it's just

9025
06:20:06,178 --> 06:20:07,412
not in the dirt.

9026
06:20:07,412 --> 06:20:09,280
Hydroponic is generally the

9027
06:20:09,280 --> 06:20:11,183
type of farming that occurs.

9028
06:20:11,183 --> 06:20:12,417
It is done now in an

9029
06:20:12,417 --> 06:20:14,152
agricultural area and the scale

9030
06:20:14,152 --> 06:20:15,987
is very expensive.

9031
06:20:15,987 --> 06:20:17,255
We've seen a lot of

9032
06:20:17,255 --> 06:20:19,290
proliferation of that through

9033
06:20:19,290 --> 06:20:22,890
the county and one thing to

9034
06:20:23,950 --> 06:20:24,229
understand is this will have

9035
06:20:24,229 --> 06:20:27,229
impacts with regard to state

9036
06:20:29,568 --> 06:20:30,803
statutes so that does

9037
06:20:30,803 --> 06:20:33,203
preemption if the jurisdiction

9038
06:20:40,647 --> 06:20:41,648
once the property becomes

9039
06:20:41,648 --> 06:20:43,648
agriculture.

9040
06:20:43,650 --> 06:20:44,884
>>commissioner steinberg: is

9041
06:20:44,884 --> 06:20:46,752
another concern I have because

9042
06:20:46,752 --> 06:20:48,654
once we zone areas for these

9043
06:20:48,654 --> 06:20:50,657
uses we can no longer generate

9044
06:20:50,657 --> 06:20:51,891
or curtail or have a say if the

9045
06:20:51,891 --> 06:20:55,491
function is still on the books.

9046
06:20:57,396 --> 06:20:58,631
So I wanted to again,

9047
06:20:58,631 --> 06:20:59,499
conceptually I get where you're

9048
06:20:59,499 --> 06:21:01,499
coming from.

9049
06:21:01,968 --> 06:21:02,202
I just have concerns about the

9050
06:21:02,202 --> 06:21:04,700
reality.

9051
06:21:04,700 --> 06:21:06,380
>> as it relates to sparing

9052
06:21:06,380 --> 06:21:06,372
your district, are you okay

9053
06:21:06,372 --> 06:21:07,730
with that now?

9054
06:21:07,730 --> 06:21:09,730
Kay.

9055
06:21:26,593 --> 06:21:26,860
Commissioner, was your question

9056
06:21:26,860 --> 06:21:28,628
answered,

9057
06:21:28,628 --> 06:21:29,763
>> I'm happy, if we're not

9058
06:21:29,763 --> 06:21:31,598
going to carve out good.

9059
06:21:31,598 --> 06:21:32,833
We will do it altogether.

9060
06:21:32,833 --> 06:21:34,568
I wanted to make sure this came

9061
06:21:34,568 --> 06:21:35,769
up when we were doing

9062
06:21:35,769 --> 06:21:36,636
agri-tourism and remember we

9063
06:21:36,636 --> 06:21:38,572
took it out.

9064
06:21:38,572 --> 06:21:39,806
So I just want to make sure

9065
06:21:39,806 --> 06:21:41,843
that when this comes back to

9066
06:21:41,843 --> 06:21:43,744
us, there's some analysis as to

9067
06:21:43,744 --> 06:21:45,579
all the different triggers.

9068
06:21:45,579 --> 06:21:46,781
So this compliance with the

9069
06:21:46,781 --> 06:21:48,582
state is this, to comply with

9070
06:21:48,582 --> 06:21:50,982
our rules and property

9071
06:21:51,118 --> 06:21:53,118
appraiser's designation says

9072
06:21:53,121 --> 06:21:54,322
this and potentially

9073
06:21:54,322 --> 06:21:56,290
agri-tourism just so we have

9074
06:21:56,290 --> 06:21:58,225
clarity because you'll remember

9075
06:21:58,225 --> 06:22:00,127
this was one of the things that

9076
06:22:00,127 --> 06:22:01,296
was thrown into the

9077
06:22:01,296 --> 06:22:02,163
agri-tourism that we had to

9078
06:22:02,163 --> 06:22:03,131
take out.

9079
06:22:03,131 --> 06:22:04,432
Would like it

9080
06:22:04,432 --> 06:22:06,401
separated into those buckets so

9081
06:22:06,401 --> 06:22:09,137
we know how it intersects with

9082
06:22:09,137 --> 06:22:11,139
all the existing agricultural

9083
06:22:11,139 --> 06:22:13,108
designations, that's all.

9084
06:22:13,108 --> 06:22:15,108
>>vice chair mcghee:

9085
06:22:15,110 --> 06:22:17,145
commissioner gonzalez would you

9086
06:22:17,145 --> 06:22:18,613
like to move the item?

9087
06:22:18,613 --> 06:22:20,248
>>commissioner gonzalez: just

9088
06:22:20,248 --> 06:22:20,449
to be sure you will include

9089
06:22:20,449 --> 06:22:22,151
that?

9090
06:22:22,151 --> 06:22:24,119
I will move the item.

9091
06:22:24,119 --> 06:22:25,153
>>vice chair mcghee: all in

9092
06:22:25,153 --> 06:22:26,221
favor, all against.

9093
06:22:26,221 --> 06:22:28,221
Hank you.

9094
06:22:31,493 --> 06:22:33,462
Item passes, the next item is

9095
06:22:33,462 --> 06:22:34,363
1184, I believe you pull that

9096
06:22:34,363 --> 06:22:36,363
item.

9097
06:22:36,365 --> 06:22:38,765
>>commissioner regalado: I just

9098
06:22:45,808 --> 06:22:47,808
have some questions.

9099
06:22:47,843 --> 06:22:49,744
When we look at our portfolio,

9100
06:22:49,744 --> 06:22:51,648
the iod should be doing this

9101
06:22:51,648 --> 06:22:52,815
already but when we look at our

9102
06:22:52,815 --> 06:22:54,784
portfolio I want to make sure

9103
06:22:54,784 --> 06:22:58,354
that if it's on the master plan

9104
06:22:58,354 --> 06:23:00,322
so for example water and sewer,

9105
06:23:00,322 --> 06:23:02,325
the fact that it is vacant does

9106
06:23:02,325 --> 06:23:04,227
not mean we don't have a plan.

9107
06:23:04,227 --> 06:23:05,428
That's my only issue with the

9108
06:23:05,428 --> 06:23:07,630
way it's written because we

9109
06:23:07,630 --> 06:23:10,663
have a tendency to say vacant

9110
06:23:10,701 --> 06:23:12,636
plan but it MAY be vacant.

9111
06:23:12,636 --> 06:23:14,571
We MAY be using it in three or

9112
06:23:14,571 --> 06:23:14,837
four years and it's part of our

9113
06:23:14,837 --> 06:23:16,837
expansion.

9114
06:23:18,174 --> 06:23:19,442
I think in the case of the

9115
06:23:19,442 --> 06:23:23,420
sheriff and I mention this to

9116
06:23:26,950 --> 06:23:28,852
the sheriff when she spoke

9117
06:23:28,852 --> 06:23:29,953
about her budget, we have an

9118
06:23:29,953 --> 06:23:30,988
oversaturation of sheriff

9119
06:23:30,988 --> 06:23:33,388
assets in that area.

9120
06:23:35,592 --> 06:23:37,594
I think we need to look at

9121
06:23:37,594 --> 06:23:38,862
geographically placing some of

9122
06:23:38,862 --> 06:23:40,832
these things in different parts

9123
06:23:40,832 --> 06:23:42,599
of the county just because that

9124
06:23:42,599 --> 06:23:44,601
is very far from my

9125
06:23:44,601 --> 06:23:45,770
unincorporated area and other

9126
06:23:45,770 --> 06:23:47,605
incorporated areas and while

9127
06:23:47,605 --> 06:23:48,839
there are opportunities there

9128
06:23:48,839 --> 06:23:51,839
particularly with land held by

9129
06:23:53,544 --> 06:23:55,513
solid waste, as long as there

9130
06:23:55,513 --> 06:23:57,448
is compensation to that

9131
06:23:57,448 --> 06:23:59,483
department because that's an

9132
06:23:59,483 --> 06:24:00,718
enterprise department where the

9133
06:24:00,718 --> 06:24:02,587
ratepayers are paying for those

9134
06:24:02,587 --> 06:24:03,788
assets so as long as there is

9135
06:24:03,788 --> 06:24:05,690
compensation I am fine and in

9136
06:24:05,690 --> 06:24:07,592
the case of solid waste water

9137
06:24:07,592 --> 06:24:10,360
and sewer is different because

9138
06:24:10,360 --> 06:24:12,230
of limitations but there should

9139
06:24:12,230 --> 06:24:14,132
be a consideration of other

9140
06:24:14,132 --> 06:24:17,732
areas in the county where some

9141
06:24:22,407 --> 06:24:25,277
of these things could be done.

9142
06:24:25,277 --> 06:24:27,278
I understand proximity is

9143
06:24:27,278 --> 06:24:28,513
important but we have an

9144
06:24:28,513 --> 06:24:30,415
oversaturation in certain areas

9145
06:24:30,415 --> 06:24:32,484
when it comes to public safety

9146
06:24:32,484 --> 06:24:34,353
and as traffic and congestion

9147
06:24:34,353 --> 06:24:35,520
gets more complex maybe it

9148
06:24:35,520 --> 06:24:36,488
would make sense to break this

9149
06:24:36,488 --> 06:24:38,256
up a little bit.

9150
06:24:38,256 --> 06:24:39,391
i did it at the school

9151
06:24:39,391 --> 06:24:41,260
district, I'm not saying

9152
06:24:41,260 --> 06:24:42,528
something I haven't already

9153
06:24:42,528 --> 06:24:44,396
done in terms of transportation

9154
06:24:44,396 --> 06:24:46,265
and policing, just so people

9155
06:24:46,265 --> 06:24:48,265
could respond better.

9156
06:24:48,267 --> 06:24:49,400
Everything from a bus depot to

9157
06:24:49,400 --> 06:24:51,337
policing so I would hope as

9158
06:24:51,337 --> 06:24:53,539
they do this, they look at all

9159
06:24:53,539 --> 06:24:55,539
parcel throughout miami-dade

9160
06:24:56,275 --> 06:24:59,875
county and not just continue to

9161
06:25:11,892 --> 06:25:12,920
concentrate in one geographic

9162
06:25:12,920 --> 06:25:14,270
area.

9163
06:25:14,270 --> 06:25:15,895
>> if we can get chief palmer

9164
06:25:15,895 --> 06:25:17,130
to clarify, I saw the mayor

9165
06:25:17,130 --> 06:25:19,980
raise her hand or their chiefs,

9166
06:25:19,980 --> 06:25:20,901
if they can address that we're

9167
06:25:20,901 --> 06:25:22,903
looking at the county as a

9168
06:25:22,903 --> 06:25:23,113
whole and not looking only at

9169
06:25:23,113 --> 06:25:25,380
doral.

9170
06:25:25,380 --> 06:25:28,380
>> thank you for the question

9171
06:25:29,375 --> 06:25:31,244
and your concerns commissioner.

9172
06:25:31,244 --> 06:25:32,445
What we do understand is this

9173
06:25:32,445 --> 06:25:34,148
is a report we would bring back

9174
06:25:34,148 --> 06:25:36,149
to this board on what

9175
06:25:36,149 --> 06:25:37,384
properties in miami-dade county

9176
06:25:37,384 --> 06:25:38,351
are available for purposes to

9177
06:25:38,351 --> 06:25:40,751
find by the sheriff.

9178
06:25:43,424 --> 06:25:44,625
Those would not only include

9179
06:25:44,625 --> 06:25:46,560
counties assisted properties

9180
06:25:46,560 --> 06:25:48,428
but anything else that MAY or

9181
06:25:48,428 --> 06:25:49,529
MAY not be available based on

9182
06:25:49,529 --> 06:25:50,598
the request she has made.

9183
06:25:50,598 --> 06:25:51,866
I do want to note if we were to

9184
06:25:51,866 --> 06:25:53,734
find something, build something

9185
06:25:53,734 --> 06:25:55,569
or create something for the

9186
06:25:55,569 --> 06:25:57,969
sheriff, even if it's

9187
06:25:58,380 --> 06:26:00,700
proprietary we pay them that

9188
06:26:00,700 --> 06:26:01,376
that money is coming from the

9189
06:26:01,376 --> 06:26:02,177
general fund to cover the

9190
06:26:02,177 --> 06:26:03,478
costs.

9191
06:26:03,478 --> 06:26:04,812
So our desire is always going

9192
06:26:04,812 --> 06:26:07,812
to be too leverage assets.

9193
06:26:07,815 --> 06:26:09,850
That we are already paying for

9194
06:26:09,850 --> 06:26:13,755
so we are not accruing new or

9195
06:26:13,755 --> 06:26:16,755
additional expenses so we meet

9196
06:26:17,725 --> 06:26:19,526
the needs of the sheriff so

9197
06:26:19,526 --> 06:26:21,926
they can continue and

9198
06:26:28,402 --> 06:26:30,402
proliferate their business.

9199
06:26:30,404 --> 06:26:32,404
>>commissioner gonzalez: to

9200
06:26:32,407 --> 06:26:33,575
clarify because commissioner

9201
06:26:33,575 --> 06:26:35,410
regalado pointed this out,

9202
06:26:35,410 --> 06:26:36,478
you're not looking at land

9203
06:26:36,478 --> 06:26:38,413
utilized right now via

9204
06:26:38,413 --> 06:26:39,547
miami-dade county and you're

9205
06:26:39,547 --> 06:26:41,483
not going to look at lamp

9206
06:26:41,483 --> 06:26:43,786
there's a plan for right now in

9207
06:26:43,786 --> 06:26:44,920
miami-dade county collects

9208
06:26:44,920 --> 06:26:46,755
through the chair, per the

9209
06:26:46,755 --> 06:26:48,900
resolution it is available so

9210
06:26:48,900 --> 06:26:50,920
we presume it's available.

9211
06:26:50,920 --> 06:26:52,920
>>vice chair mcghee:

9212
06:26:52,495 --> 06:26:53,996
commissioner hardemon.

9213
06:26:53,996 --> 06:26:55,970
>>commissioner hardemon:

9214
06:26:55,970 --> 06:26:57,320
property is owned by the

9215
06:26:57,320 --> 06:26:59,432
sheriff's office distinct among

9216
06:27:02,338 --> 06:27:04,338
dade county.

9217
06:27:04,374 --> 06:27:06,774
>> through the chair according

9218
06:27:07,209 --> 06:27:10,209
to amendment 10 sheriff is not

9219
06:27:10,580 --> 06:27:11,715
allowed to own real property.

9220
06:27:11,715 --> 06:27:13,583
The county owns any of the

9221
06:27:13,583 --> 06:27:16,583
properties that the sheriff is

9222
06:27:18,921 --> 06:27:20,857
currently utilizing.

9223
06:27:20,857 --> 06:27:22,759
>> so for instance this study

9224
06:27:22,759 --> 06:27:22,959
we are doing, who pays for the

9225
06:27:22,959 --> 06:27:24,959
study?

9226
06:27:31,468 --> 06:27:33,468
>> the county.

9227
06:27:33,503 --> 06:27:34,705
>> so the county charges me to

9228
06:27:34,705 --> 06:27:36,606
pay my facility like I want to

9229
06:27:36,606 --> 06:27:38,441
pave the office that county

9230
06:27:38,441 --> 06:27:39,643
charges me and I know the

9231
06:27:39,643 --> 06:27:42,790
sheriff charges us to utilize

9232
06:27:42,790 --> 06:27:42,245
the sergeant-at-arms, I think

9233
06:27:42,245 --> 06:27:44,245
so.

9234
06:27:51,389 --> 06:27:53,323
So is is within reason to

9235
06:27:53,323 --> 06:27:55,192
charge their sheriff's office

9236
06:27:55,192 --> 06:27:55,525
as well for the services we are

9237
06:27:55,525 --> 06:27:57,361
providing her?

9238
06:27:57,361 --> 06:27:59,396
>>mayor cava: through the

9239
06:27:59,396 --> 06:28:02,967
chair, it's all the same pot of

9240
06:28:02,967 --> 06:28:04,102
money because it's all comes

9241
06:28:04,102 --> 06:28:06,700
from the general fund.

9242
06:28:06,700 --> 06:28:07,872
We do include those things also

9243
06:28:07,872 --> 06:28:09,340
in our agreements with the

9244
06:28:09,340 --> 06:28:11,309
county and we do keep track of

9245
06:28:11,309 --> 06:28:14,909
those things they are part of

9246
06:28:20,384 --> 06:28:22,384
the budget.

9247
06:28:22,487 --> 06:28:24,456
>> I'm trying to conceptualize

9248
06:28:24,456 --> 06:28:25,457
what you're saying, there is a

9249
06:28:25,457 --> 06:28:27,857
budget, it's a pot.

9250
06:28:29,940 --> 06:28:30,228
and in the spot cover a it's a

9251
06:28:30,228 --> 06:28:32,163
certain way, give say for

9252
06:28:32,163 --> 06:28:33,565
instance certain departments or

9253
06:28:33,565 --> 06:28:35,166
offices like the sheriff's

9254
06:28:35,166 --> 06:28:36,401
office as a service of that pot

9255
06:28:36,401 --> 06:28:40,100
which means then we have less

9256
06:28:40,400 --> 06:28:40,238
percentage to use towards other

9257
06:28:40,238 --> 06:28:42,700
things.

9258
06:28:42,700 --> 06:28:45,770
So if we give the sheriff a

9259
06:28:45,770 --> 06:28:48,770
percentage of this time, and

9260
06:28:49,247 --> 06:28:53,447
then we say we're going to do

9261
06:28:59,558 --> 06:29:01,427
this but not charge you, it

9262
06:29:01,427 --> 06:29:02,662
costs money but not from their

9263
06:29:02,662 --> 06:29:04,563
sheriff's portion of the pie so

9264
06:29:04,563 --> 06:29:06,499
the sheriff's got a certain

9265
06:29:06,499 --> 06:29:08,434
percentage plus more because we

9266
06:29:08,434 --> 06:29:09,668
are not using her percentage so

9267
06:29:09,668 --> 06:29:11,571
there's less for other people

9268
06:29:11,571 --> 06:29:11,771
who have the, who don't have as

9269
06:29:11,771 --> 06:29:13,539
much.

9270
06:29:13,539 --> 06:29:14,807
Like when you say to me it's

9271
06:29:14,807 --> 06:29:19,700
all the same fund, but it's not

9272
06:29:19,450 --> 06:29:20,346
coming from her pocket so your

9273
06:29:20,346 --> 06:29:23,946
spending more of the funds that

9274
06:29:27,720 --> 06:29:29,622
we have.

9275
06:29:29,622 --> 06:29:30,824
This is all coming from the

9276
06:29:30,824 --> 06:29:32,726
same pot, is not charging me

9277
06:29:32,726 --> 06:29:33,660
because it's all coming from

9278
06:29:33,660 --> 06:29:35,660
the same pie.

9279
06:29:35,662 --> 06:29:36,863
We've already funded through

9280
06:29:36,863 --> 06:29:38,731
administration to do certain

9281
06:29:38,731 --> 06:29:39,899
things, why charge me from my

9282
06:29:39,899 --> 06:29:40,935
pie to reimburse you for your

9283
06:29:40,935 --> 06:29:43,670
reply so you get more.

9284
06:29:43,670 --> 06:29:44,905
I feel like as commissioner now

9285
06:29:44,905 --> 06:29:46,740
I'm getting the short end of

9286
06:29:46,740 --> 06:29:49,740
the stick because as the

9287
06:30:07,527 --> 06:30:08,562
sheriff raises, she's getting

9288
06:30:08,562 --> 06:30:10,397
branches on her stick.

9289
06:30:10,397 --> 06:30:11,633
That makes no sense.

9290
06:30:11,633 --> 06:30:13,535
You all don't get anything, I'm

9291
06:30:13,535 --> 06:30:15,403
okay with it but I want to make

9292
06:30:15,403 --> 06:30:16,570
sure we are on the same page.

9293
06:30:16,570 --> 06:30:18,572
If you want to make this free

9294
06:30:18,572 --> 06:30:20,642
that's fine, we can do that but

9295
06:30:20,642 --> 06:30:22,544
I want a general understanding

9296
06:30:22,544 --> 06:30:24,379
of when we decide to charge

9297
06:30:24,379 --> 06:30:26,381
people and not because I've

9298
06:30:26,381 --> 06:30:27,548
seen multiple instances where

9299
06:30:27,548 --> 06:30:28,616
certain entities that can

9300
06:30:28,616 --> 06:30:30,552
purport to pay don't pay.

9301
06:30:30,552 --> 06:30:31,386
The entities that can afford to

9302
06:30:31,386 --> 06:30:33,386
pay pay.

9303
06:30:33,388 --> 06:30:33,555
And it just shouldn't be that

9304
06:30:33,555 --> 06:30:35,390
way.

9305
06:30:35,390 --> 06:30:36,591
We should at least be more

9306
06:30:36,591 --> 06:30:38,492
transparent about how we are

9307
06:30:38,492 --> 06:30:40,395
going to go about doing this.

9308
06:30:40,395 --> 06:30:41,597
>>vice chair mcghee: I

9309
06:30:41,597 --> 06:30:43,565
understand click clearly, is

9310
06:30:43,565 --> 06:30:45,533
there a particular question.

9311
06:30:45,533 --> 06:30:46,401
>> I've already asked all the

9312
06:30:46,401 --> 06:30:48,401
charges.

9313
06:30:48,403 --> 06:30:49,604
>> to the administration

9314
06:30:49,604 --> 06:30:50,405
please, we're about to wrap it

9315
06:30:50,405 --> 06:30:52,405
up.

9316
06:30:52,408 --> 06:30:53,642
>> through the chair we do keep

9317
06:30:53,642 --> 06:30:57,242
track of the cost and expenses

9318
06:31:01,951 --> 06:31:03,119
for each department.

9319
06:31:03,119 --> 06:31:04,186
Including those that are

9320
06:31:04,186 --> 06:31:06,880
charged to commissioners.

9321
06:31:06,880 --> 06:31:07,923
Any expenses that are accrued

9322
06:31:07,923 --> 06:31:09,158
by the sheriff we track.

9323
06:31:09,158 --> 06:31:11,270
There are things that are in

9324
06:31:11,270 --> 06:31:12,962
their sheriff's budget like

9325
06:31:12,962 --> 06:31:15,962
there are things in the

9326
06:31:22,205 --> 06:31:23,406
commissioners budgets that we

9327
06:31:23,406 --> 06:31:23,640
then do a cost allocation

9328
06:31:23,640 --> 06:31:25,308
towards.

9329
06:31:25,308 --> 06:31:27,209
Here are often times

9330
06:31:27,209 --> 06:31:29,211
things, that have not been

9331
06:31:29,211 --> 06:31:31,214
budgeted and we make a decision

9332
06:31:31,214 --> 06:31:33,216
based on our financial

9333
06:31:33,216 --> 06:31:34,517
accounting principles on

9334
06:31:34,517 --> 06:31:36,452
whether or not that's something

9335
06:31:36,452 --> 06:31:38,454
we charged to the department or

9336
06:31:38,454 --> 06:31:40,289
is charged to the general fund,

9337
06:31:40,289 --> 06:31:42,326
funds are available to the

9338
06:31:42,326 --> 06:31:44,294
county to address expenses that

9339
06:31:44,294 --> 06:31:45,228
were not previously land so we

9340
06:31:45,228 --> 06:31:47,228
do keep track.

9341
06:31:47,230 --> 06:31:49,232
We keep track of the in-kind

9342
06:31:49,232 --> 06:31:50,233
contributions we make to the

9343
06:31:50,233 --> 06:31:52,233
sheriff's office.

9344
06:31:52,236 --> 06:31:53,504
We keep track of the expenses

9345
06:31:53,504 --> 06:31:55,239
incurred by the county for any

9346
06:31:55,239 --> 06:31:56,440
work we do for the

9347
06:31:56,440 --> 06:31:58,308
constitutional that's not

9348
06:31:58,308 --> 06:32:00,243
budgeted and we keep track of

9349
06:32:00,243 --> 06:32:02,120
course of whether or not they

9350
06:32:02,120 --> 06:32:02,980
are meeting the budget they

9351
06:32:02,980 --> 06:32:04,980
were assigned.

9352
06:32:05,490 --> 06:32:06,984
We do not have the authority to

9353
06:32:06,984 --> 06:32:08,819
say what they do with the money

9354
06:32:08,819 --> 06:32:10,200
they budgeted, they have

9355
06:32:10,200 --> 06:32:12,560
complete authority to use the

9356
06:32:12,560 --> 06:32:13,570
money they've been budgeted the

9357
06:32:13,570 --> 06:32:15,260
way they see fit.

9358
06:32:15,260 --> 06:32:17,426
If there's something overbudget

9359
06:32:19,129 --> 06:32:21,132
then we would accrue those

9360
06:32:21,132 --> 06:32:22,333
funds or apply those funds

9361
06:32:22,333 --> 06:32:24,235
according to where there is

9362
06:32:24,235 --> 06:32:24,469
money available to cover that

9363
06:32:24,469 --> 06:32:26,304
expense.

9364
06:32:26,304 --> 06:32:28,339
This is a report, many times we

9365
06:32:28,339 --> 06:32:30,141
are directed to do reports and

9366
06:32:30,141 --> 06:32:31,276
then we have to find the

9367
06:32:31,276 --> 06:32:33,144
resources to do the reports.

9368
06:32:33,144 --> 06:32:34,412
This does not require us to

9369
06:32:34,412 --> 06:32:36,213
make an expense outside of the

9370
06:32:36,213 --> 06:32:39,917
work it would cost us to do

9371
06:32:39,917 --> 06:32:41,786
this report.

9372
06:32:41,786 --> 06:32:43,786
>>vice chair mcghee:

9373
06:32:43,788 --> 06:32:44,889
commissioner gilbert is next,

9374
06:32:44,889 --> 06:32:46,790
unfollow you but I don't

9375
06:32:46,790 --> 06:32:48,792
believe the question was

9376
06:32:48,792 --> 06:32:50,794
answered away the post but

9377
06:32:50,794 --> 06:32:52,763
commissioner gilbert.

9378
06:32:52,763 --> 06:32:53,997
>>commissioner gilbert: I don't

9379
06:32:53,997 --> 06:32:55,899
think it was either but let me

9380
06:32:55,899 --> 06:32:57,733
say we can't decide when doing

9381
06:32:57,733 --> 06:33:00,733
reports and the human resource

9382
06:33:05,207 --> 06:33:05,508
function of what we do is extra

9383
06:33:05,508 --> 06:33:07,343
allocation.

9384
06:33:07,343 --> 06:33:09,211
I'm thinking back to the cra

9385
06:33:09,211 --> 06:33:09,811
meeting we talked about, I'm

9386
06:33:09,811 --> 06:33:11,580
going to ask the question of

9387
06:33:11,580 --> 06:33:12,781
those items anyway anymore like

9388
06:33:12,781 --> 06:33:17,581
yes so okay, if it is it is.

9389
06:33:22,690 --> 06:33:23,758
It's a human cost, if it's not

9390
06:33:23,758 --> 06:33:24,959
human cost it isn't but

9391
06:33:24,959 --> 06:33:26,794
independent of that this does

9392
06:33:26,794 --> 06:33:30,994
not apply because it is by a

9393
06:33:31,632 --> 06:33:33,701
vote this is happening.

9394
06:33:33,701 --> 06:33:35,568
The commission is sponsoring an

9395
06:33:35,568 --> 06:33:37,437
item that requires staff to do

9396
06:33:37,437 --> 06:33:38,638
a report, it's not something

9397
06:33:38,638 --> 06:33:40,440
that sheriff, it might be

9398
06:33:40,440 --> 06:33:43,440
something she wants but it's

9399
06:33:46,212 --> 06:33:46,379
not something she's having us

9400
06:33:46,379 --> 06:33:48,214
do.

9401
06:33:48,214 --> 06:33:49,415
So you're having us do it.

9402
06:33:49,415 --> 06:33:51,317
It's just like any other thing

9403
06:33:51,317 --> 06:33:53,252
we are having us do, she came

9404
06:33:53,252 --> 06:33:55,254
and said you all have the

9405
06:33:55,254 --> 06:33:56,688
ability to do reports on real

9406
06:33:56,688 --> 06:33:58,289
property in this property I

9407
06:33:58,289 --> 06:34:03,890
want you all to look at and she

9408
06:34:12,236 --> 06:34:14,138
asks us to do that.

9409
06:34:14,138 --> 06:34:15,272
Then yes, we probably have a

9410
06:34:15,272 --> 06:34:17,207
conversation about what we

9411
06:34:17,207 --> 06:34:18,375
should be paying but we are not

9412
06:34:18,375 --> 06:34:20,144
having that conversation.

9413
06:34:20,144 --> 06:34:21,411
This conversation though

9414
06:34:21,411 --> 06:34:23,280
reminds me of I think the item

9415
06:34:23,280 --> 06:34:24,147
of the cars when you invited

9416
06:34:24,147 --> 06:34:25,315
vehicles.

9417
06:34:25,315 --> 06:34:27,150
We go out and buy vehicles

9418
06:34:27,150 --> 06:34:29,152
sometimes we buy vehicles for

9419
06:34:29,152 --> 06:34:31,154
the sheriff's department also.

9420
06:34:31,154 --> 06:34:33,322
So we buy the vehicles for the

9421
06:34:33,322 --> 06:34:35,158
sheriff's department and the

9422
06:34:35,158 --> 06:34:36,359
sheriff's department doesn't

9423
06:34:36,359 --> 06:34:37,326
only vehicles in our general

9424
06:34:37,326 --> 06:34:39,161
bond offerings.

9425
06:34:39,161 --> 06:34:41,163
But we don't we work

9426
06:34:41,163 --> 06:34:42,231
necessarily allocating that

9427
06:34:42,231 --> 06:34:43,298
money as a part of the

9428
06:34:43,298 --> 06:34:45,166
sheriff's budget.

9429
06:34:45,166 --> 06:34:46,368
So I want to make sure we did

9430
06:34:46,368 --> 06:34:48,269
correct that, that we are now

9431
06:34:48,269 --> 06:34:49,403
so if there portion of that

9432
06:34:49,403 --> 06:34:51,373
vehicle by his $70 million,

9433
06:34:51,373 --> 06:34:53,240
that $70 million is included in

9434
06:34:53,240 --> 06:34:55,176
the number we say is in the

9435
06:34:55,176 --> 06:34:56,311
sheriff's budget because they

9436
06:34:56,311 --> 06:34:58,179
are exclusive users of the

9437
06:34:58,179 --> 06:34:59,180
vehicle so I want to make sure

9438
06:34:59,180 --> 06:35:00,381
we fix that first.

9439
06:35:00,381 --> 06:35:02,249
>> I'm not sure I understand

9440
06:35:02,249 --> 06:35:04,184
what you're asking us to fix

9441
06:35:04,184 --> 06:35:05,285
because if there is an expense

9442
06:35:05,285 --> 06:35:07,154
that sheriff has an expense

9443
06:35:07,154 --> 06:35:08,388
that is in their budget that's

9444
06:35:08,388 --> 06:35:10,390
accounted for in their budget.

9445
06:35:10,390 --> 06:35:13,990
>> I know it's an expense in

9446
06:35:20,433 --> 06:35:21,667
their budget but when we buy

9447
06:35:21,667 --> 06:35:23,436
vehicles we are accounting in

9448
06:35:23,436 --> 06:35:24,637
our budget so we were

9449
06:35:24,637 --> 06:35:26,505
accounting for it on our side

9450
06:35:26,505 --> 06:35:27,606
but it wasn't reflective of

9451
06:35:27,606 --> 06:35:30,606
money being used for them.

9452
06:35:32,544 --> 06:35:33,678
If we are doing something for

9453
06:35:33,678 --> 06:35:35,547
them and it might be a

9454
06:35:35,547 --> 06:35:36,748
difference between the

9455
06:35:36,748 --> 06:35:37,682
sheriff's budget is 900,000,900

9456
06:35:37,682 --> 06:35:39,551
70 million.

9457
06:35:39,551 --> 06:35:41,518
But that's 70 million I

9458
06:35:41,518 --> 06:35:43,554
understand it all comes from a

9459
06:35:43,554 --> 06:35:45,623
general fund but it needs to be

9460
06:35:45,623 --> 06:35:47,725
accurately reflected that's for

9461
06:35:47,725 --> 06:35:49,726
our law enforcement function.

9462
06:35:49,726 --> 06:35:51,628
>> absolutely, we are trying to

9463
06:35:51,628 --> 06:35:53,630
create as much transparency on

9464
06:35:53,630 --> 06:35:54,731
how funds are used to support

9465
06:35:54,731 --> 06:35:56,599
the sheriff that would be above

9466
06:35:56,599 --> 06:35:58,568
and beyond the money that's in

9467
06:35:58,568 --> 06:36:02,168
that budget and that is an

9468
06:36:11,447 --> 06:36:12,715
excellent example.

9469
06:36:12,715 --> 06:36:14,683
>>commissioner gilbert: I want

9470
06:36:14,683 --> 06:36:16,752
to make sure we're doing that

9471
06:36:16,752 --> 06:36:18,519
from a financial perspective, I

9472
06:36:18,519 --> 06:36:19,721
want to make sure when we

9473
06:36:19,721 --> 06:36:22,121
identify these real properties

9474
06:36:22,457 --> 06:36:23,658
we keep in mind you ought to be

9475
06:36:23,658 --> 06:36:26,461
indexing, much it costs us to

9476
06:36:26,461 --> 06:36:27,661
the best extent possible to

9477
06:36:27,661 --> 06:36:29,463
maintain, build because the

9478
06:36:29,463 --> 06:36:31,465
sheriff doesn't own real

9479
06:36:31,465 --> 06:36:32,666
property and the sheriff has a

9480
06:36:32,666 --> 06:36:34,568
checkbook written out of the

9481
06:36:34,568 --> 06:36:36,470
general fund so if we're going

9482
06:36:36,470 --> 06:36:37,671
to acquire property or even

9483
06:36:37,671 --> 06:36:39,773
transfer property there is a

9484
06:36:39,773 --> 06:36:39,973
value coming from proprietary

9485
06:36:39,973 --> 06:36:41,775
fund.

9486
06:36:41,775 --> 06:36:43,777
What is it going to take to

9487
06:36:43,777 --> 06:36:45,110
build it out, whatever it takes

9488
06:36:45,110 --> 06:36:46,912
we have to pay for it, whatever

9489
06:36:46,912 --> 06:36:48,781
it takes to ensure it or turn

9490
06:36:48,781 --> 06:36:50,783
electricity we have to do it so

9491
06:36:50,783 --> 06:36:52,180
that want to be a component of

9492
06:36:52,180 --> 06:36:53,886
everything so we understand if

9493
06:36:53,886 --> 06:36:55,754
we do these things eyes wide

9494
06:36:55,754 --> 06:36:57,220
open this is what it costs

9495
06:36:57,220 --> 06:36:57,990
because we are facing general

9496
06:36:57,990 --> 06:36:59,990
fund restrictions.

9497
06:37:11,502 --> 06:37:13,404
>> that's absolutely right and

9498
06:37:13,404 --> 06:37:15,539
the budgets that are approved

9499
06:37:15,539 --> 06:37:17,408
for each constitutional office

9500
06:37:17,408 --> 06:37:18,576
shows what they have control

9501
06:37:18,576 --> 06:37:20,544
overspending but to your point

9502
06:37:20,544 --> 06:37:22,379
there are expenses the county

9503
06:37:22,379 --> 06:37:24,381
occurs in support of each one

9504
06:37:24,381 --> 06:37:25,549
of them specifically that

9505
06:37:25,549 --> 06:37:27,451
sheriff when it comes to

9506
06:37:27,451 --> 06:37:29,386
property that is accounted for

9507
06:37:29,386 --> 06:37:30,587
on the county side of the books

9508
06:37:30,587 --> 06:37:32,522
book attributed to the sheriff

9509
06:37:32,522 --> 06:37:34,557
to fulfill their duties.

9510
06:37:34,557 --> 06:37:35,692
>>vice chair mcghee:

9511
06:37:35,692 --> 06:37:38,920
commissioner regalado then go

9512
06:37:38,393 --> 06:37:39,662
to commissioner gonzalez.

9513
06:37:39,662 --> 06:37:41,597
>>commissioner regalado: while

9514
06:37:41,597 --> 06:37:43,399
I appreciate your answer you

9515
06:37:43,399 --> 06:37:44,566
didn't answer my question

9516
06:37:44,566 --> 06:37:44,767
because I know how the game

9517
06:37:44,767 --> 06:37:46,468
works.

9518
06:37:46,468 --> 06:37:47,402
We are concerned about the

9519
06:37:47,402 --> 06:37:48,637
general fund.

9520
06:37:48,637 --> 06:37:50,471
The portfolio of solid waste,

9521
06:37:50,471 --> 06:37:52,373
there is a large part of that

9522
06:37:52,373 --> 06:37:54,773
portfolio that sits in

9523
06:37:55,777 --> 06:37:57,679
unincorporated miami-dade near

9524
06:37:57,679 --> 06:37:58,912
doral and clearly that

9525
06:37:58,912 --> 06:38:00,815
portfolio is in play which is

9526
06:38:00,815 --> 06:38:02,749
why my question was if you're

9527
06:38:02,749 --> 06:38:04,685
going to take property from an

9528
06:38:04,685 --> 06:38:07,870
enterprise fund, will you be

9529
06:38:07,870 --> 06:38:08,588
reimbursing that enterprise

9530
06:38:08,588 --> 06:38:10,900
fund and your answer was it's

9531
06:38:10,900 --> 06:38:11,291
all the same money.

9532
06:38:11,291 --> 06:38:14,291
It's not because that comes

9533
06:38:18,300 --> 06:38:20,330
from the trash cans and this is

9534
06:38:20,330 --> 06:38:21,267
why we had a consent decree in

9535
06:38:21,267 --> 06:38:23,135
water and sewer so that's why I

9536
06:38:23,135 --> 06:38:25,370
said we don't have to worry

9537
06:38:25,370 --> 06:38:26,305
about that in water and sewer

9538
06:38:26,305 --> 06:38:28,207
because if the government came

9539
06:38:28,207 --> 06:38:30,420
and told us to stop siphoning

9540
06:38:30,420 --> 06:38:31,243
money for the ratepayers,

9541
06:38:31,243 --> 06:38:33,111
they've yet to do that on the

9542
06:38:33,111 --> 06:38:35,546
solid waste side and I've been

9543
06:38:35,546 --> 06:38:37,449
trying to prevent it though I

9544
06:38:37,449 --> 06:38:39,451
want clarity and that I don't

9545
06:38:39,451 --> 06:38:41,419
have a problem with those solid

9546
06:38:41,419 --> 06:38:43,354
waste sites being included,

9547
06:38:43,354 --> 06:38:44,555
there just has to be a monetary

9548
06:38:44,555 --> 06:38:45,556
determination as to the use of

9549
06:38:45,556 --> 06:38:47,524
those properties.

9550
06:38:47,524 --> 06:38:49,527
i think that there's a lot of

9551
06:38:49,527 --> 06:38:51,528
other properties that right now

9552
06:38:51,528 --> 06:38:53,497
we have that we should consider

9553
06:38:53,497 --> 06:38:55,365
in terms of placement without

9554
06:38:55,365 --> 06:38:58,365
poisoning the well and saying

9555
06:39:04,306 --> 06:39:05,507
because it belongs to the

9556
06:39:05,507 --> 06:39:07,310
county and we could make money

9557
06:39:07,310 --> 06:39:08,544
another way and maybe we

9558
06:39:08,544 --> 06:39:10,446
shouldn't consider it, I think

9559
06:39:10,446 --> 06:39:12,314
we should consider the entire

9560
06:39:12,314 --> 06:39:13,482
portfolio because countywide,

9561
06:39:13,482 --> 06:39:15,383
even though it MAY cost us a

9562
06:39:15,383 --> 06:39:17,619
little bit more right now, the

9563
06:39:17,619 --> 06:39:19,554
placement of that outside of

9564
06:39:19,554 --> 06:39:21,422
the general area where it all

9565
06:39:21,422 --> 06:39:23,458
lives right now MAY be too the

9566
06:39:23,458 --> 06:39:23,692
benefit of the public in the

9567
06:39:23,692 --> 06:39:25,692
future.

9568
06:39:34,100 --> 06:39:35,936
I'm just saying, kionne needs a

9569
06:39:35,936 --> 06:39:37,370
response time like the rest of

9570
06:39:37,370 --> 06:39:38,939
us so let's be dynamic and

9571
06:39:38,939 --> 06:39:39,840
honest about the cost and let

9572
06:39:39,840 --> 06:39:41,840
us decide.

9573
06:39:43,900 --> 06:39:44,878
Trash in, trash out and if we

9574
06:39:44,878 --> 06:39:46,779
go in with this mindset of we

9575
06:39:46,779 --> 06:39:48,140
are so concerned about the

9576
06:39:48,140 --> 06:39:49,916
general fund we're not going to

9577
06:39:49,916 --> 06:39:52,916
come out with proper actions

9578
06:39:55,988 --> 06:39:57,222
and I want clarity on the solid

9579
06:39:57,222 --> 06:39:59,910
waste because solid waste is in

9580
06:39:59,910 --> 06:40:00,559
play, it's going to be the

9581
06:40:00,559 --> 06:40:02,694
formula that I predict is most

9582
06:40:02,694 --> 06:40:04,662
in play.

9583
06:40:04,662 --> 06:40:06,598
>>vice chair mcghee: do you

9584
06:40:06,598 --> 06:40:08,600
need answers to those questions

9585
06:40:08,600 --> 06:40:09,734
right now, do you answer those

9586
06:40:09,734 --> 06:40:12,637
questions so we can get this

9587
06:40:12,637 --> 06:40:14,738
out of the way.

9588
06:40:14,738 --> 06:40:16,908
>> the answer to your question

9589
06:40:16,908 --> 06:40:19,743
is yes, sir okay in that there

9590
06:40:19,743 --> 06:40:21,679
were proprietary properties

9591
06:40:21,679 --> 06:40:22,813
explored, we would have to pay

9592
06:40:22,813 --> 06:40:24,813
or reimburse appropriately

9593
06:40:30,187 --> 06:40:30,387
based on the value of that

9594
06:40:30,387 --> 06:40:32,188
land.

9595
06:40:32,188 --> 06:40:34,188
>>vice chair mcghee:

9596
06:40:34,190 --> 06:40:36,159
commissioner regalado does that

9597
06:40:36,159 --> 06:40:38,159
satisfy your request?

9598
06:40:38,194 --> 06:40:40,194
Commissioner gonzalez then

9599
06:40:42,698 --> 06:40:43,966
milian orbis.

9600
06:40:43,966 --> 06:40:45,834
>>commissioner gonzalez: I want

9601
06:40:45,834 --> 06:40:47,670
to thank commissioner regalado

9602
06:40:47,670 --> 06:40:49,671
because that's the broad

9603
06:40:49,671 --> 06:40:50,839
perspective here, the broad

9604
06:40:50,839 --> 06:40:53,641
perspective is to analyze all

9605
06:40:53,641 --> 06:40:54,709
the properties throughout

9606
06:40:54,709 --> 06:40:56,644
miami-dade county, not

9607
06:40:56,644 --> 06:40:57,879
specifically, to commissioner

9608
06:40:57,879 --> 06:40:59,879
gilbert's point specifically

9609
06:40:59,881 --> 06:41:01,649
for the sheriff's function but

9610
06:41:01,649 --> 06:41:03,651
really for a countywide

9611
06:41:03,651 --> 06:41:04,852
response time in public safety

9612
06:41:04,852 --> 06:41:06,720
benefit which is why we are

9613
06:41:06,720 --> 06:41:08,655
doing the study because for

9614
06:41:08,655 --> 06:41:10,657
example I concur with

9615
06:41:10,657 --> 06:41:11,791
commissioner regalado where a

9616
06:41:11,791 --> 06:41:13,660
primary section of what is

9617
06:41:13,660 --> 06:41:16,660
covered by the sheriff and

9618
06:41:16,763 --> 06:41:19,163
services countywide exists in

9619
06:41:20,500 --> 06:41:22,468
doral but to your point it's

9620
06:41:22,468 --> 06:41:25,468
for somebody from your district

9621
06:41:26,940 --> 06:41:28,941
or commissioner cohen higgins's

9622
06:41:28,941 --> 06:41:31,341
district or mickey's district

9623
06:41:34,379 --> 06:41:36,381
to make their way to doral.

9624
06:41:36,381 --> 06:41:38,283
By identifying these plots of

9625
06:41:38,283 --> 06:41:40,251
land we can begin to plan for

9626
06:41:40,251 --> 06:41:42,287
the future so that is the

9627
06:41:42,287 --> 06:41:44,287
overarching concept year.

9628
06:41:52,529 --> 06:41:53,397
>>chair: commissioner milian

9629
06:41:53,397 --> 06:41:54,665
orbis.

9630
06:41:54,665 --> 06:41:57,650
>>commissioner milian orbis: I

9631
06:41:57,401 --> 06:41:58,635
and obviously supportive of the

9632
06:41:58,635 --> 06:42:00,470
item, I asked to cosponsor it

9633
06:42:00,470 --> 06:42:01,605
and would you accept the

9634
06:42:01,605 --> 06:42:03,406
distinction is made in the

9635
06:42:03,406 --> 06:42:04,607
report that commissioner

9636
06:42:04,607 --> 06:42:06,409
regalado essay, the funding is

9637
06:42:06,409 --> 06:42:08,410
coming from so we can keep

9638
06:42:08,410 --> 06:42:10,412
share of those different

9639
06:42:10,412 --> 06:42:11,413
distinctions and parcels being

9640
06:42:11,413 --> 06:42:12,915
identified.

9641
06:42:12,915 --> 06:42:15,915
>>vice chair mcghee: did you

9642
06:42:21,156 --> 06:42:23,158
get that MR. Attorney?

9643
06:42:23,158 --> 06:42:25,160
Seeing no other questions

9644
06:42:25,160 --> 06:42:26,261
commissioner gonzalez would you

9645
06:42:26,261 --> 06:42:27,328
like to move the item?

9646
06:42:27,328 --> 06:42:29,130
Seeing it as moved and

9647
06:42:29,130 --> 06:42:29,363
seconded, all in favor, all

9648
06:42:29,363 --> 06:42:30,298
against.

9649
06:42:30,298 --> 06:42:32,298
Item passes.

9650
06:42:33,167 --> 06:42:35,567
>> we have a cosponsorship

9651
06:42:35,803 --> 06:42:37,771
request.

9652
06:42:37,771 --> 06:42:38,972
>>vice chair mcghee:

9653
06:42:38,972 --> 06:42:39,840
commissioner lopez, cosponsor,

9654
06:42:39,840 --> 06:42:41,776
thank you.

9655
06:42:41,776 --> 06:42:43,778
We have four items left ladies

9656
06:42:43,778 --> 06:42:43,978
and gentlemen we will be out of

9657
06:42:43,978 --> 06:42:45,780
here.

9658
06:42:45,780 --> 06:42:46,781
Two airports items, hp 283 we

9659
06:42:46,781 --> 06:42:47,782
have to call those

9660
06:42:47,782 --> 06:42:48,949
individually.

9661
06:42:48,949 --> 06:42:51,349
Because those are aviation

9662
06:42:52,887 --> 06:42:54,887
items for statute.

9663
06:42:54,923 --> 06:42:56,190
Do we have someone who wants to

9664
06:42:56,190 --> 06:42:57,425
move hp two.

9665
06:42:57,425 --> 06:43:01,250
Someone added, we have a motion

9666
06:43:04,766 --> 06:43:06,868
on the second, all in favor.

9667
06:43:06,868 --> 06:43:08,769
All against, item passes, hp

9668
06:43:08,769 --> 06:43:12,969
three we have a motion and it's

9669
06:43:13,175 --> 06:43:14,176
moved and seconded, all in

9670
06:43:14,176 --> 06:43:16,176
favor.

9671
06:43:16,178 --> 06:43:17,379
>>commissioner regalado: if I

9672
06:43:17,379 --> 06:43:19,914
could have a motion real quick,

9673
06:43:19,914 --> 06:43:21,914
we've already moved.

9674
06:43:25,454 --> 06:43:29,540
Motion for hp three, signify by

9675
06:43:30,492 --> 06:43:30,726
saying gay.

9676
06:43:30,726 --> 06:43:31,627
Against.

9677
06:43:31,627 --> 06:43:33,627
Item passes.

9678
06:43:37,732 --> 06:43:39,340
Your motion.

9679
06:43:39,340 --> 06:43:39,968
>>commissioner regalado: if not

9680
06:43:39,968 --> 06:43:42,368
I will read it.

9681
06:44:07,630 --> 06:44:09,630
Your there.

9682
06:44:09,632 --> 06:44:11,635
>> moved to direct the county

9683
06:44:11,635 --> 06:44:13,637
mayor or designee to organize a

9684
06:44:13,637 --> 06:44:14,905
charrette or similar planning

9685
06:44:14,905 --> 06:44:16,840
exercise for the portion of the

9686
06:44:16,840 --> 06:44:18,742
east kendall area located in

9687
06:44:18,742 --> 06:44:20,644
district 7 approximately bound

9688
06:44:20,644 --> 06:44:21,745
by southwest 88 street kendall

9689
06:44:21,745 --> 06:44:23,647
drive on the north, 120th

9690
06:44:23,647 --> 06:44:24,814
street on the south, southwest

9691
06:44:24,814 --> 06:44:26,750
97th avenue on the west and

9692
06:44:26,750 --> 06:44:28,651
dixie highway and estate road

9693
06:44:28,651 --> 06:44:30,621
826 on the east and in

9694
06:44:30,621 --> 06:44:32,656
accordance to land-use matters

9695
06:44:32,656 --> 06:44:34,658
these exercises should have

9696
06:44:34,658 --> 06:44:35,892
included an assessment of

9697
06:44:35,892 --> 06:44:37,795
infrastructure improvements

9698
06:44:37,795 --> 06:44:39,630
needed to the area for further

9699
06:44:39,630 --> 06:44:40,798
meetings for such exercises

9700
06:44:40,798 --> 06:44:42,633
shall not extend beyond a

9701
06:44:42,633 --> 06:44:43,801
formal duration shall be

9702
06:44:43,801 --> 06:44:45,636
permitted to be conducted

9703
06:44:45,636 --> 06:44:46,637
virtually in accordance with

9704
06:44:46,637 --> 06:44:47,805
all applicable law.

9705
06:44:47,805 --> 06:44:49,807
Ommissioner moves to direct

9706
06:44:49,807 --> 06:44:51,643
the county mayor or designee

9707
06:44:51,643 --> 06:44:53,645
after the completion of the

9708
06:44:53,645 --> 06:44:55,646
charrette or similar planning

9709
06:44:55,646 --> 06:44:57,648
exercises to prepare a written

9710
06:44:57,648 --> 06:44:58,816
report to recommendation

9711
06:44:58,816 --> 06:45:00,652
regarding after mentioned

9712
06:45:00,652 --> 06:45:01,786
directive place a completed

9713
06:45:01,786 --> 06:45:03,654
report on an agenda without

9714
06:45:03,654 --> 06:45:05,656
committee review within six

9715
06:45:05,656 --> 06:45:07,659
months of the effective date

9716
06:45:07,659 --> 06:45:08,826
pursuant to rule 5.0 6j of the

9717
06:45:08,826 --> 06:45:09,895
board's rules of procedure.

9718
06:45:09,895 --> 06:45:11,895
>> all in favor.

9719
06:45:11,896 --> 06:45:13,699
All against, item passes, last

9720
06:45:13,699 --> 06:45:14,866
two items, commissioner I

9721
06:45:14,866 --> 06:45:15,867
believe it's 14 a2 which is

9722
06:45:15,867 --> 06:45:17,735
your interlocal.

9723
06:45:17,735 --> 06:45:17,935
Do we have a second, all in

9724
06:45:17,935 --> 06:45:19,737
favor.

9725
06:45:19,737 --> 06:45:21,674
All against, joe this item

9726
06:45:21,674 --> 06:45:22,841
passes and that's the last one

9727
06:45:22,841 --> 06:45:24,676
on the agenda is 1484, that

9728
06:45:24,676 --> 06:45:25,844
belongs to commissioner

9729
06:45:25,844 --> 06:45:27,779
hardemon, catering renovation

9730
06:45:27,779 --> 06:45:28,813
seconded by commissioner colin

9731
06:45:28,813 --> 06:45:30,650
higgins, all in favor.

9732
06:45:30,650 --> 06:45:31,784
Joe this item passes, MR.

9733
06:45:31,784 --> 06:45:32,752
Attorney any other issues

9734
06:45:32,752 --> 06:45:33,852
before this board?

9735
06:45:33,852 --> 06:45:35,852
Any motions?

9736
06:45:36,655 --> 06:45:38,655
Motion, commissioner gilbert.

9737
06:45:38,656 --> 06:45:40,656
>>commissioner gilbert: county

9738
06:45:41,600 --> 06:45:43,950
attorney as to motions, commit

9739
06:45:43,950 --> 06:45:45,970
mayor turner to the commission

9740
06:45:45,970 --> 06:45:46,966
on enterprise and the third is

9741
06:45:46,966 --> 06:45:48,901
to convey real property in opa

9742
06:45:48,901 --> 06:45:50,102
locka to the county so we could

9743
06:45:50,102 --> 06:45:52,380
see if we can work with their

9744
06:45:52,380 --> 06:45:53,390
cra redevelopment, can be read

9745
06:45:53,390 --> 06:45:55,390
those motions.

9746
06:45:55,740 --> 06:45:56,909
>> moves that this board can

9747
06:45:56,909 --> 06:45:58,911
they stay on real property

9748
06:45:58,911 --> 06:46:00,146
within the city of opa locka to

9749
06:46:00,146 --> 06:46:02,115
miami-dade county for purpose

9750
06:46:02,115 --> 06:46:04,840
of redevelopment, to direct the

9751
06:46:04,840 --> 06:46:05,985
clerk to transmit a certified

9752
06:46:05,985 --> 06:46:07,954
copy of the resolution to the

9753
06:46:07,954 --> 06:46:09,956
governor, PRESIDENT Of the

9754
06:46:09,956 --> 06:46:11,959
senate house speaker and chair

9755
06:46:11,959 --> 06:46:13,927
and members of the legislative

9756
06:46:13,927 --> 06:46:15,962
mission, three direct the state

9757
06:46:15,962 --> 06:46:17,163
lobbyist to advocate for the

9758
06:46:17,163 --> 06:46:18,931
intergovernmental affairs to

9759
06:46:18,931 --> 06:46:20,934
include this item in a 2026

9760
06:46:20,934 --> 06:46:22,350
legislative package when it is

9761
06:46:22,350 --> 06:46:24,710
presented to the board.

9762
06:46:24,710 --> 06:46:25,939
>>vice chair mcghee: second,

9763
06:46:25,939 --> 06:46:27,173
can I have a second, second by

9764
06:46:27,173 --> 06:46:29,173
commissioner trent 25 regalado,

9765
06:46:29,943 --> 06:46:32,343
second motion, MADAM Attorney.

9766
06:46:36,830 --> 06:46:37,351
>>.

9767
06:46:37,351 --> 06:46:39,252
>>commissioner gilbert: I moved

9768
06:46:39,252 --> 06:46:41,189
to appoint jessica meyerson to

9769
06:46:41,189 --> 06:46:43,157
the committee on human rights,

9770
06:46:43,157 --> 06:46:45,580
>>vice chair mcghee: are there

9771
06:46:45,580 --> 06:46:45,760
motions set before this board.

9772
06:46:45,760 --> 06:46:47,760
You have one?

9773
06:46:51,933 --> 06:46:53,801
Senator garcia.

9774
06:46:53,801 --> 06:46:55,200
>> amend resolution are 3526

9775
06:46:55,200 --> 06:46:58,602
which was adopted by this for

9776
06:46:59,673 --> 06:47:01,609
JUNE 16 and women thing certain

9777
06:47:01,609 --> 06:47:03,545
state law changes to the rer be

9778
06:47:03,545 --> 06:47:06,545
scheduled to make the following

9779
06:47:12,540 --> 06:47:13,254
corrections to the influencing

9780
06:47:13,254 --> 06:47:15,256
order which was attached as

9781
06:47:15,256 --> 06:47:17,158
exhibit a to the resolution,

9782
06:47:17,158 --> 06:47:17,358
one a bottom number page 4 of

9783
06:47:17,358 --> 06:47:19,259
the b

9784
06:47:19,259 --> 06:47:21,259
42 include the provisions

9785
06:47:21,296 --> 06:47:23,650
of subsection 2c inadvertently

9786
06:47:23,650 --> 06:47:24,299
shown as deleted as a new

9787
06:47:24,299 --> 06:47:26,168
subsection and on the bottom of

9788
06:47:26,168 --> 06:47:28,360
page 10 amend subsection 6d to

9789
06:47:28,360 --> 06:47:29,204
add the word not so that

9790
06:47:29,204 --> 06:47:31,106
subsection 60 shall read work

9791
06:47:31,106 --> 06:47:33,420
with the canal right-of-way not

9792
06:47:33,420 --> 06:47:34,142
requiring hydraulic analysis

9793
06:47:34,142 --> 06:47:36,780
including analysis or

9794
06:47:36,780 --> 06:47:37,212
evaluation of impacts to canal

9795
06:47:37,212 --> 06:47:39,212
conveyance, staged velocity

9796
06:47:39,247 --> 06:47:41,647
storage, tail water conditions

9797
06:47:47,255 --> 06:47:48,557
or water surface elevations.

9798
06:47:48,557 --> 06:47:50,225
>>vice chair mcghee: do I have

9799
06:47:50,225 --> 06:47:52,225
a second?

9800
06:47:52,228 --> 06:47:52,528
>>commissioner bermudez: I will

9801
06:47:52,528 --> 06:47:54,363
second but

9802
06:47:54,363 --> 06:47:56,298
give me a written report.

9803
06:47:56,298 --> 06:47:58,367
>>vice chair mcghee: all in

9804
06:47:58,367 --> 06:48:00,335
favor, all against, item passes

9805
06:48:00,335 --> 06:48:02,238
and any other motions at this

9806
06:48:02,238 --> 06:48:03,539
particular time.

9807
06:48:03,539 --> 06:48:05,241
>>commissioner regalado: I have

9808
06:48:05,241 --> 06:48:06,509
an appointment.

9809
06:48:06,509 --> 06:48:09,509
>>vice chair mcghee: give me

9810
06:48:11,548 --> 06:48:13,516
one second.

9811
06:48:13,516 --> 06:48:13,883
>>mayor cava: I need to address

9812
06:48:13,883 --> 06:48:15,585
that last item.

9813
06:48:15,585 --> 06:48:17,520
As a reminder we like any

9814
06:48:17,520 --> 06:48:18,721
copies of amendments, it's

9815
06:48:18,721 --> 06:48:20,624
difficult for us to evaluate it

9816
06:48:20,624 --> 06:48:22,526
if we do not see it but I have

9817
06:48:22,526 --> 06:48:24,528
better news which is to thank

9818
06:48:24,528 --> 06:48:25,695
commissioner hardemon and lopez

9819
06:48:25,695 --> 06:48:27,597
who worked together to obtain

9820
06:48:27,597 --> 06:48:29,532
the funding to complete the

9821
06:48:29,532 --> 06:48:30,534
caleb center renovation.

9822
06:48:30,534 --> 06:48:31,835
Appointments.

9823
06:48:31,835 --> 06:48:33,670
>>commissioner regalado: I want

9824
06:48:33,670 --> 06:48:35,506
to appoint erin caesar to the

9825
06:48:35,506 --> 06:48:37,506
biscayne bay shoreline

9826
06:48:44,215 --> 06:48:46,215
development review.

9827
06:48:46,216 --> 06:48:47,451
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I

9828
06:48:47,451 --> 06:48:49,386
have appointments on the behalf

9829
06:48:49,386 --> 06:48:51,356
of CHAIRMAN Rodriguez, amending

9830
06:48:51,356 --> 06:48:52,690
our six 3226 relating to fiscal

9831
06:48:52,690 --> 06:48:53,424
year 2026 action plan funding

9832
06:48:53,424 --> 06:48:54,992
recommendations for funding

9833
06:48:54,992 --> 06:48:57,992
from the united states urban

9834
06:48:59,663 --> 06:49:01,663
development increase

9835
06:49:02,467 --> 06:49:04,867
recommendations on mdc 001 from

9836
06:49:20,284 --> 06:49:21,553
198 thousand $501 to $198,560.

9837
06:49:21,553 --> 06:49:23,953
Four miami-dade county housing

9838
06:49:24,289 --> 06:49:25,524
and urban development economic

9839
06:49:25,524 --> 06:49:27,524
development public facilities

9840
06:49:28,293 --> 06:49:29,761
and capital improvements, if I

9841
06:49:29,761 --> 06:49:31,497
read that correctly it's a

9842
06:49:31,497 --> 06:49:33,298
motion to correct a scriveners

9843
06:49:33,298 --> 06:49:36,898
error or a difference of a

9844
06:49:40,205 --> 06:49:42,174
whopping $50.

9845
06:49:42,174 --> 06:49:43,375
And I have another motion on

9846
06:49:43,375 --> 06:49:45,311
behalf of CHAIRMAN Rodriguez,

9847
06:49:45,311 --> 06:49:47,312
moves pursuant to rule 5.064 of

9848
06:49:47,312 --> 06:49:49,314
this board's rules of procedure

9849
06:49:49,314 --> 06:49:51,150
to extend indefinitely approval

9850
06:49:51,150 --> 06:49:52,284
period for all legislative

9851
06:49:52,284 --> 06:49:54,320
requests eligible for an

9852
06:49:54,320 --> 06:49:56,221
extension made by the CHAIRMAN

9853
06:49:56,221 --> 06:49:57,422
And I have exact same motion so

9854
06:49:57,422 --> 06:50:00,159
I make the same motion pursuant

9855
06:50:00,159 --> 06:50:02,162
to the same rule, thank you.

9856
06:50:02,162 --> 06:50:04,164
>>vice chair mcghee: do we have

9857
06:50:04,164 --> 06:50:05,464
a second, commissioner lopez

9858
06:50:05,464 --> 06:50:07,400
seconds the item.

9859
06:50:07,400 --> 06:50:08,634
Let me get through this motion

9860
06:50:08,634 --> 06:50:10,402
first, all in favor, all

9861
06:50:10,402 --> 06:50:12,472
against, motion is passed.

9862
06:50:12,472 --> 06:50:14,472
MADAM Attorney.

9863
06:50:14,474 --> 06:50:16,342
>> we have two more, pursuant

9864
06:50:16,342 --> 06:50:19,942
to rule 5.026 of the rules of

9865
06:50:27,120 --> 06:50:29,520
procedure vice CHAIRMAN Mcghee

9866
06:50:29,989 --> 06:50:31,959
and commissioner bermudez and

9867
06:50:31,959 --> 06:50:32,993
commissioner gilbert,

9868
06:50:32,993 --> 06:50:34,127
commissioner lopez,

9869
06:50:34,127 --> 06:50:36,163
commissioner cdmp moved to

9870
06:50:36,163 --> 06:50:37,998
extend indefinitely approval

9871
06:50:37,998 --> 06:50:39,199
period for all legislative

9872
06:50:39,199 --> 06:50:41,599
requests for axis extension

9873
06:50:42,200 --> 06:50:43,360
made by each group perspective

9874
06:50:43,360 --> 06:50:44,271
commissioner.

9875
06:50:44,271 --> 06:50:46,173
>>commissioner bermudez: I'm

9876
06:50:46,173 --> 06:50:47,107
sorry but everyone is included

9877
06:50:47,107 --> 06:50:49,107
in this one.

9878
06:50:50,544 --> 06:50:52,480
Motion to pass it.

9879
06:50:52,480 --> 06:50:54,482
>>vice chair mcghee: there are

9880
06:50:54,482 --> 06:50:56,483
actual rules, seeing the items

9881
06:50:56,483 --> 06:50:58,485
are moved do we have a second?

9882
06:50:58,485 --> 06:50:59,620
Second by commissioner lopez.

9883
06:50:59,620 --> 06:51:00,588
Ll against, show the item

9884
06:51:00,588 --> 06:51:02,588
passes.

9885
06:51:05,590 --> 06:51:07,590
Any other motions.

9886
06:51:07,940 --> 06:51:09,290
>> on commissioner gilberts

9887
06:51:09,290 --> 06:51:12,466
motion that would apply to both

9888
06:51:12,466 --> 06:51:14,402
the 26 and 2027 calendar years.

9889
06:51:14,402 --> 06:51:15,937
>>vice chair mcghee: thank you,

9890
06:51:15,937 --> 06:51:17,438
any other issues or business

9891
06:51:17,438 --> 06:51:17,672
before the board before we

9892
06:51:17,672 --> 06:51:19,672
adjourn.

9893
06:51:59,214 --> 06:52:01,214
Motion to adjourn.

9894
06:52:03,953 --> 06:52:05,953
Since