[10:51] calling in to order the wynwood [10:53] design review committee meeting [10:57] for SEPTEMBER 8th 2026. Start [11:02] with a call to order. Tom [11:07] dunlop is absent. Allen kent [11:11] present kathy leff zion mass [11:17] present. Miguel amar absent. [11:19] Heidi. Heidi. Wiegand. [11:22] >> jared brunvand here. Thank [11:27] you. We have quorum. Okay so [11:29] any person who is a lobbyist [11:30] pursuant to chapter two article [11:32] six of the city code must [11:33] register with the city clerk [11:34] and comply with the related [11:35] city requirements for lobbyists [11:36] before appearing before the [11:37] wynwood design review [11:38] committee. A person MAY not [11:39] lobby a city official, board [11:41] member or staff member until [11:43] registering a copy of the city [11:44] code section about lobbyists is [11:45] available in the city clerk's [11:47] office or online at w w [11:48] municode.Com. 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The [12:58] meeting can be viewed live on [13:01] miami tv. Miami.Com backslash [13:03] tv or comcast channel 77 within [13:05] the city of miami the broadcast [13:06] will also have closed [13:10] captioning. Thank you. Are [13:14] there any public comments? No. [13:15] Okay. There are no public [13:19] comments. We can move on. Do we [13:21] have any requests for absence [13:26] waivers? Yes we do chair um. [13:32] Dunlap requested. Okay. Do we [13:34] need to have any action around [13:37] that? Yes. Okay. So a motion [13:38] for approve. [13:43] >> his waiver. Move to approve [13:45] the waiver. I second that [13:47] second. Okay. All in favor? [13:51] Aye. Thank you. Motion is [13:55] approved. Next we have the [14:00] minutes approval. Approval of [14:02] the minutes of the previous [14:05] meeting I second all in favor? [14:08] Aye aye. Minutes approved has [14:19] been passed. [14:23] Thank you. Before we go into [14:25] our first agenda item of today, [14:28] I wanted to brief you a little [14:30] bit on the wynwood vision plan [14:32] that's been ongoing over the [14:35] summer. So we are. Not halfway [14:36] we're beyond the halfway point [14:39] but before the final outcome of [14:41] the report. So we want to come [14:43] for the next meeting which will [14:45] be OCTOBER 13th. Uh so it will [14:47] be I'm going to email everybody [14:49] to just make you you know, like [14:50] remember like so that you can [14:52] remember to come but it's [14:53] important for you all to be [14:54] here on the next meeting. We're [14:56] going to circulate the [14:57] materials at least ten days [14:59] before so that you get a chance [15:00] to see what we're coming up [15:02] with the design. Guidelines. [15:03] >> the. Recommendations. [15:04] >> what's working, what's not [15:06] working. So that next meeting [15:08] we have a session with gensler [15:10] and we can provide comments [15:12] feedback and use our time for [15:14] that one. So just fyi that's [15:15] going to come into your email [15:22] soon. Thank you. Okay. Our [15:25] first item today minute track [15:29] id one nine. 800. Is our [15:33] 2027wdrc. Meeting. Dates for [15:35] next year, so we have to. [15:38] Approve the calendar for next [15:42] year. That's the first item for [15:50] today. Okay, does everybody see [15:53] the dates? My thing isn't [16:03] opening. I'm sorry. Are. [16:04] >> there any uh any. [16:05] >> comments from anybody? It's. [16:08] >> the same same tuesday yeah [16:12] yes I can I can uh briefly [16:14] quickly show you JANUARY 12th [16:17] at 10 A.M.. FEBRUARY 9th at 10 [16:21] a.M.. MARCH 9th at ten. APRIL [16:26] 13th. MAY 11th. JUNE 8th. JULY [16:27] 13th. SEPTEMBER 14th. [16:29] >> OCTOBER 12th. [16:31] >> NOVEMBER 9th. DECEMBER 14th [16:34] 26. Yeah for next year. Oh [16:35] this. [16:38] >> is we have. 26. But I guess [16:39] yeah so it's. [16:40] >> basically. [16:42] >> the the second. [16:43] >> tuesday it looks like of [16:46] every month. Any comments [16:49] anybody. Motion to approve. I. [16:51] Approve. [16:54] >> second. All in favor. All in [16:56] favor aye aye aye. Thank you. [17:02] >> thank you item number two [17:05] minute track id 19763. A [17:06] resolution of the wynwood [17:07] design review committee [17:09] recommending approval of to the [17:11] director of planning department [17:13] for the project known from [17:14] sunlife. Organics. [17:15] >> sign. [17:17] >> located at. 2200 northwest [17:30] first avenue. Thank you. [17:32] I think he has the first few [17:42] items. [17:49] Yes this applicant is also. [17:54] >> doing items number 19738. [17:56] Same property address. 2200 [17:57] northwest first avenue. Also [18:01] item number. 19736. [18:14] >> and item number 19737. [18:44] On our screen. He just went. [19:27] Okay good morning everyone. My [19:29] name is andre. I'm from I'm [19:31] representing molex company [19:33] signage company located here in [19:34] miami. So I'm presenting the [19:36] project is online organic at [19:38] jules house. This project is [19:40] composed by four zero signage. [19:43] So basically we're doing like [19:45] two signs per facade. So it's [19:47] it's located in the corner. The [19:49] location is well the location [19:55] number one permit number is. [19:57] bd26012432001 and the building [20:00] is located at. 2200 northwest [20:03] first avenue, miami, florida [20:05] 33127. So the location number [20:08] one. Is basically. Located at [20:13] the sulfa side which is facing [20:15] the northwest. 2220 second [20:16] street. [20:17] >> and. [20:22] >> this is. 40ft wide. The this [20:23] is a hanging sign. This sign [20:25] will be installed by center at [20:28] the entrance of the retail [20:30] which is um nine feet height. [20:31] So it's following the [20:34] regulations for clearance for [20:37] the pedestrians. The dimension [20:44] of this sign is. 2404 by 78. So [20:48] basically like. 127 like. 13ft2 [20:50] and the signs will be as I [20:52] mentioned installed in center [20:54] with the glass windows. The [20:57] setback in interior is. [20:58] >> two feet. [21:00] >> from the glass area there [21:03] like a main entrance and the [21:06] entrance will be like a [21:08] identify with design. The [21:10] illumination of design is from [21:13] lit channel letters and face [21:15] illumination and the material [21:17] is aluminum structure with [21:19] acrylic on the face and to [21:20] project the illumination and [21:23] the graphic will be like print [21:25] or vinyl on top of the on the [21:27] acrylic so that way create like [21:29] the the logo so represent the [21:31] logo and as I mentioned design [21:33] will be hanging. So we were [21:35] proposing a aluminum structure [21:38] to to create like the to [21:40] implement the letters plus the [21:43] image following the branding [21:46] regulations. So this is like [21:47] the dimension and the format of [21:51] the structure. And as I [21:53] mentioned this sign is hanging [21:54] its interior but it's [21:56] projecting to the street. So [21:57] basically you can see from the [21:58] street during the day and [22:01] during the night and all the [22:02] electrical components will be [22:04] like concealed interior and the [22:06] aluminum structure will be like [22:10] the way I mean like the [22:12] elements to where we can hide [22:13] all the electrical components [22:16] and all the gearbox and [22:18] electrical connection will be [22:21] like internal so nobody can see [22:23] everything will be clean um [22:26] plain and this is like a render [22:28] with the daylight view and [22:30] night night view. So basically [22:32] as I mentioned interior but [22:33] exterior since the illumination [22:35] is and design is project from [22:38] the street. This is another [22:42] reference. And this is just [22:44] like reference from the area [22:46] and this is the location number [22:52] one. Just want to quickly [22:56] remind everybody that uh we got [22:57] miguel here. [22:59] >> good morning. Apologies for [23:05] my being late. I um thanks for [23:08] presenting your sign today. I [23:10] think this is one of my [23:11] favorite signs that you've [23:13] presented so far. You've done a [23:14] really good job here. There's a [23:17] lot of details that you thought [23:19] about the side of the sign [23:23] where it's located, um, how [23:25] you've you know, brought in the [23:26] electrical through the [23:29] structure. Uh, first question I [23:32] have is the structure that you [23:34] have the sign hanging from. [23:36] Have you guys thought about the [23:38] color and how it relates to [23:40] maybe the window mullions, [23:42] maybe consider using the same [23:44] color as the window mullions or [23:46] maybe making it all black or [23:48] really think about what the [23:50] structure looks like and the [23:52] construction of this of of the [23:54] structure, you know, is it [23:56] welded? Is it screwed on? I [23:58] think that you know, you have [24:00] such a beautiful sign that [24:02] thinking about how this thing [24:04] is hung and if you don't really [24:07] think about how thick each tube [24:10] is, it'll stand out. [24:11] Absolutely. People will say, oh [24:13] what a beautiful sign. But the [24:15] structure is a little bit. Yes [24:16] actually that one of them like [24:18] the idea the intention I keep [24:20] it like clean and like blend [24:23] the area. So probably if the [24:25] glass is like let's say smoke [24:27] so we can replicate a similar [24:28] color to the glass or the [24:29] mullions as you mentioned, [24:32] probably the way the design the [24:33] structure blend during the [24:35] night will be visible because [24:36] the illumination will be like [24:38] project design. So the idea [24:40] could find like a color format [24:41] that. Yeah. [24:44] >> it seems like your client [24:47] probably has, you know, pushed [24:49] you guys to make sure that the [24:51] sign is beautiful. So also it's [24:53] um, engineering like situation [24:54] like we're creating this [24:57] structure in engineering terms. [25:00] So that's why but yes, we can [25:02] play with the color and find a [25:09] solution. Any other comments? [25:11] >> are we approving one sign at [25:12] a time or are all three at [25:16] once? Did you present all [25:17] three? So can you continue with [25:19] the next okay perfect. So this [25:21] is the location number one. [25:23] Location number two is [25:25] basically the same project just [25:27] a different sign. This sign is [25:30] located is also a hanging sign. [25:33] Let me check something okay the [25:35] location number one is the same [25:38] I presenting for signs two sign [25:39] two signs are the same sign and [25:41] the other two signs are the [25:42] signs like since are two [25:44] entrances one is in a corner so [25:46] both signs are exactly the same [25:48] sign but located in different [25:49] corner and the other two signs [25:50] are blade signs. So the [25:52] location number two is [25:53] basically the same sign just [25:58] located at the um its facade [26:00] which is the northwest first [26:01] avenue but basically the same [26:03] situation same electrical [26:04] components, same logo, same [26:06] dimensions everything. So [26:10] basically the same. So let's go [26:12] to the location number three [26:15] this is the other option the [26:16] other presentation. So location [26:17] number three and location [26:21] number four are blade signs so. [26:23] The location number three is a [26:24] blade sign not illuminated. [26:26] This sign will be installed at [26:29] the studio as you can see here [26:30] the intention of design is [26:32] installed next to the entrance [26:36] to the closest light column. So [26:38] that way it's very visible from [26:41] both sides. It's also installed [26:43] the ideas like the interior [26:46] sign like hanging sign and [26:48] blade sign they like keep it [26:50] like center together so both [26:51] sign will be installed at the [26:53] same height. So it will be [26:56] clear like a visual line. So [26:58] design is fabricated in [27:00] aluminum with a printed panel [27:02] graphic like this where um [27:03] including the logo of the [27:05] branding of the company. Um [27:07] this is a blade sign but is [27:09] composed by two aluminum like [27:11] plates in the middle like like [27:14] a structure like a bullseye [27:17] both panels it's very light [27:18] very simple. These are similar [27:21] like reference we have in the [27:22] area. But yes this is the [27:24] intention is not illuminated as [27:25] I mentioned the illuminator [27:26] will be the hanging sign. This [27:28] is just like pedestrian like [27:29] when you're walking from both [27:31] sides you can have like a [27:33] visual of the entrance. So this [27:35] is the location number three [27:37] and location number four is [27:39] basically the same as I [27:40] mentioned same situation same [27:41] components same materials same [27:44] logo just located at the [27:46] northwest first avenue. So [27:48] basically that's the those are [27:54] the four signs. Thank you. Any [28:01] any comments from the board? I, [28:06] I move to approve with comments [28:09] um the comments are to consider [28:11] the structure in the design and [28:13] make sure that you know there's [28:15] thought put into it the [28:17] thickness of the structure how [28:18] it's attached. Absolutely. [28:21] >> yeah that kind of stuff. And [28:24] then also to make sure that all [28:26] the signs have the same foot [28:28] candles and the illumination to [28:31] reconsider 3500 kelvin and [28:32] maybe move to something a [28:34] little bit warmer. Okay. Around [28:37] the range of 2000 and 2500 [28:48] kelvin. I'll second the motion. [28:48] Okay. [28:55] >> all in favor? Aye I. Are [28:58] those conditions clear? We need [29:01] to do a motion for for each [29:02] therefore applications okay [29:04] running under the same building [29:06] I believe the condition was for [29:09] the last one. The yeah the [29:12] approval is for all of them to [29:15] have they're all approved with [29:17] the condition that they all [29:20] have the same calvin correct. [29:22] And that they to reconsider the [29:24] 3000 kelvin to something lower [29:28] and warmer between 2000 and [29:29] 25,000 kelvin. Okay. [29:31] >> and that the structure for [29:34] the main sign to be considered [29:34] into the design. [29:37] >> okay, perfect. The blade [29:38] signs aren't illuminated [29:41] correct. The illuminated. The [29:43] blade it's only the two [29:44] storefront signs. Just the [29:48] hanging sign. Even better. [29:51] Yeah. Okay. Okay, so the motion [29:56] is now for approval of item [30:02] number 19736. With the [30:07] condition that the structure is [30:11] of equal measurement or less [30:13] no. Be considered in the design [30:14] that they really think about [30:16] the thickness of the structure [30:18] as it as it pertains to the [30:21] sign and how it's uh assembled. [30:24] Okay, so with the consideration [30:27] of the structure and its [30:29] thickness and how it's [30:32] assembled and as it relates to [30:34] the other signs. To the actual [30:36] sign that it's holding up. Okay [30:36] . [30:40] >> is that clear enough? Yeah, [30:41] I'm writing it down and I'm [30:44] going to read the sentence so [30:56] that we are clear on that one. [31:16] Okay, so these have all been [31:18] approved with the following [31:20] condition all signs to have the [31:21] same lighting intensity and the [31:23] placement of the sign to be [31:25] considered of the structure and [31:27] thickness as it relates to the [31:31] facade. Thank you. Okay. [31:35] >> thank you. And so MAY we [31:37] have a motion for approval of [31:38] the sign with the conditions [31:42] for 19736. We have to do this [31:47] one at a time correct? No. You [31:49] could do an omnibus motion as [31:51] to all of them. Okay so let's [31:55] do that. Yeah so we'll do a [31:57] motion to approve all the signs [31:59] with the conditions set forth. [32:02] An omnibus. Omnibus motion [32:04] omnibus nice word omnibus [32:06] motion to approve the four [32:10] signs presented. MAY I have a [32:14] motion to approve please. I [32:19] approve. Second second. All in [32:22] favor aye aye. Motion is passed [32:26] and approved. Thank you luis [32:29] motion. Thank you so much. 6 to [32:29] 0. [32:40] >> thank you. [32:51] Item number five. Minute track [33:07] id. 19789. The location is nrd1 [33:12] wynwood new construction fence. [33:24] Thank you. Good morning.. [33:25] >> good morning. Jonathan [33:28] treston I am vp of legal and [33:30] asset management for more [33:32] development. Um you guys all [33:34] know my colleague tom dunlap as [33:36] our vice CHAIRMAN. Um he's not [33:39] here today. Um so I have [33:40] prepared a little presentation [33:41] just to walk you through this [33:42] this fence upgrade that we're [33:44] doing. It's a gate and a fence [33:46] replacement on one of our [33:47] properties here. It's located [33:48] on northwest first place. Um, [33:51] just to orient you of the area [33:52] we're talking about here this [33:55] is a google maps screenshot the [33:57] little um building in the [33:59] center that has the little [34:01] office icon on it. Um right [34:03] here is where we're talking [34:05] about um we own a lot of [34:06] property in the southern end of [34:08] wynwood here bordering north of [34:10] northwest 20th on both sides of [34:12] second avenue northwest first [34:15] place and so on. Um these [34:18] buildings right here are being [34:19] used currently as they exist [34:22] and adaptively reused and what [34:25] you see is that we had um this [34:26] is the fence that we're talking [34:27] about that we're replacing. [34:29] I'll show you some other photos [34:30] in a second. This is a survey [34:33] showing the property. Um so one [34:36] of these properties in the [34:37] bottom the there's like four [34:39] it's like four separate folios [34:40] actually make up this one [34:42] building essentially and the [34:44] second from the bottom where it [34:45] says one story building is [34:47] where our offices are. And we [34:49] came before this board a few [34:50] years ago for the approval of [34:52] that fence and the little [34:53] courtyard that you'll see in [34:54] some of these photos. What [34:56] we're essentially trying to do [34:57] is replace an old gate and [34:58] fence that's just down the [34:59] street next to the other [35:01] building in front of the other [35:02] courtyard with something that [35:04] looks exactly the same that's [35:07] more artistically um attractive [35:10] and um the esthetics would be [35:11] you know, to match right. The [35:14] other fence um what we're doing [35:15] in general in the neighborhood [35:17] is we're trying to kind of [35:19] improve and adaptively reuse a [35:21] lot of the existing structures [35:23] and to try to create a [35:25] neighborhood vibe and [35:26] neighborhood energy. We are [35:27] trying to have a lot of the [35:29] things match right? So similar [35:30] landscaping on the same [35:31] property. So you'll know when [35:33] you go to our area oh you're in [35:35] you're in you're in the soy [35:36] area right? Which is what we [35:38] call our our little area of [35:41] wynwood. Um so if anybody has [35:43] any questions about the fence [35:44] itself and the construction of [35:46] it, I have our contractor here. [35:48] I'd like to just skip forward [35:49] to some of these photos. So [35:52] this is the existing fence in [35:54] front of our office as it [35:56] exists today we came before the [35:57] board. We originally had a [35:58] different design. The louvers [35:59] were a little bit more [36:01] concealing the board wanted at [36:03] the time it was a different [36:05] board but the board wanted um [36:07] more more see through to to be [36:09] more inviting. So when the gate [36:11] is closed you could see through [36:13] the courtyard and when it's and [36:14] then during the day it's [36:17] typically open. Um it's not a [36:18] public courtyard but you know [36:20] it's open like this as you see [36:21] in this picture and you could [36:22] kind of see the murals and you [36:24] could see the landscape behind [36:26] it. So the idea is to do [36:27] something similar on the one [36:28] that's just next door. We [36:31] actually um have some tenants [36:33] that are operating in those [36:34] spaces that you'll see when I [36:37] get to that photo. Um here this [36:39] is the existing fence as it was [36:40] when we bought the property. It [36:42] has this sheet metal kind of [36:43] covering from being able to see [36:45] in we got all these murals [36:46] painted. We have beautiful art [36:48] on the walls but you kind of [36:49] can't see it now even when this [36:52] gate is open. Um it's partially [36:53] concealed. The entrance to one [36:55] of the retail spaces is [36:57] actually behind that fence. Um [36:59] we just rented it to a tenant [37:01] who's moving in now. Um there's [37:03] a nail salon in there and then [37:04] we have some interest in the [37:05] space that's right here. So [37:07] we're trying to kind of create [37:09] a nice courtyard area for all [37:10] the tenants to use. And then [37:11] one of the spaces is actually [37:14] still used by us as a as a [37:15] satellite office for our design [37:18] team. Um and so the the idea [37:20] this is what the courtyard [37:21] looks like today, right? The [37:25] idea is to replace this fence [37:27] with um something that will [37:28] look very similar. This is just [37:30] to give you a view of the [37:32] street vibes that we have here [37:33] with all the murals, right? So [37:35] there's a lot of art on the [37:36] walls. This is the existing [37:39] fence here. And then if we [37:41] replace the other fence with [37:43] the similar this is a rendering [37:44] of what we're looking to do [37:46] with the courtyard. So it'll [37:48] open up you'll be able to see [37:49] into it we're going to [37:51] landscape it um put some [37:53] benches um this doesn't show it [37:54] but probably some shade sails [37:55] to give it a little bit more [37:57] shade in the courtyard as well. [37:59] And this is another rendering [38:01] to kind of show you know what [38:03] the the fence would look like [38:04] the esthetic right open and [38:07] closed. Um it's also um better [38:09] for security reasons as well. [38:11] The current fence is is [38:12] difficult for employees to open [38:14] and close and the way that it [38:16] locks you have your back to the [38:18] street as opposed to this will [38:20] be able to get in and out a lot [38:24] easier. Um so um that's that's [38:26] basically it um as far as the [38:28] design and everything, um you [38:31] know, we felt that by having [38:33] the fences match um that the [38:35] esthetic itself is the artistic [38:37] part of it right and that [38:39] you'll be able to now see all [38:40] these beautiful murals that are [38:47] behind it. Thank you. Any [38:51] comments from the board? I [38:53] wanted to give a little bit of [38:54] background on that text [38:57] amendment in 2025. So back then [38:59] the park that was sitting here [39:01] made a recommendation to the [39:02] planning department to increase [39:05] the purview of the park so that [39:07] any new fence or wall in the [39:09] public right of way will come [39:10] here and get a recommendation [39:13] on the art and but that was [39:14] basically for new developments, [39:16] right? This is like a project [39:17] like this like jonathan is [39:19] bringing today it's adaptive [39:21] reuse that they're making a [39:22] change to improve their [39:23] property but they still comply [39:25] with coming and you know, [39:27] presenting his work and see how [39:29] it fits into the rest of his [39:31] development area. But just for [39:33] you guys to understand why why [39:34] he's here. Understood. [39:37] >> and we I appreciate the the [39:39] proposal and the effort to open [39:42] it up for public view. I think [39:44] the murals that you have [39:45] obviously spent a lot of time [39:46] in curating them and [39:48] maintaining them and so to be [39:49] able to share that with the [39:51] public I think is a benefit to [39:52] the neighborhood. Yeah. [39:57] >> thank you. So I will say ask [40:04] for a motion to approve. I [40:07] second that approval. All in [40:11] favor. Aye aye. Motions passed [40:15] for item number 19789 of the [40:16] fence. Thank you so much. Thank [40:18] you very much. Approve as [40:30] presented. Thank you very much. [40:35] Okay I heard his voice. No [40:37] that's. It yeah. Any other [40:40] items on the agenda? Uh no more [40:41] items on the agenda. Just [40:43] friendly reminder that the [40:44] vision plan vision plan will be [40:46] here as a discussion item on [40:47] the next meeting OCTOBER 13th [40:49] we're going to circulate the [40:51] materials before the end of the [40:52] month so that you have time to [40:54] look at the content and provide [40:56] feedback. So please be here on [40:58] the next meeting please. We [40:59] need your opinion, your [41:01] feedback, your engagement so [41:03] that we can work on it as we [41:05] finalize the vision plan. How [41:06] soon are you going to send the [41:08] material over? Uh we have a [41:10] draft but I'm going to give [41:11] gensler a few days to wrap it [41:13] up and then send it to you [41:14] ideally before, you know, like [41:16] two weeks before the actual [41:18] meeting on OCTOBER 13th. So you [41:19] have time to take a look. [41:21] >> and is this a public meeting [41:22] or is this internal? [41:23] >> no, it will be a public [41:24] meeting here. Yeah. [41:24] >> all right. Okay. [41:27] >> meeting adjourned. Thank [41:28] you, thank you. [41:41] >> thank you thank you. [Music]