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Good evening ladies and gentlemen I would ask that you

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please take your seats. We are going to begin with

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special presentations in advance of the council meeting tonight. Council

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Members please come to the well. It is the well.

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It's a well of the chamber. All right. So with

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that tonight we are here to honor or we're going

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to start our night by honoring some special individuals. Two

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of whom gave their lives to Public Service in the

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form of providing Public Safety to the community, not only

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in Miami Lakes, but beyond. And also to the Ruiz

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family that our legends here in the town. So with

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that we're going to get started. We're going to take

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them one at a time in turn. And I want

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to begin with Deputy Carlos Ortiz. If you would please

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come up here. Deputy Ortiz has

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been with us since we were founded. So basically since

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2001, right, we were founded December 5th 2000, you know,

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but obviously it takes a little time to start putting

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the organization together. So he's one of what the kids

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would say the OG's here. So. With that in recognition

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of your many years of service, we're issuing you a

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proclamation, making August 20th, 2026 Deputy Carlos Ortiz Day in

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this town. And the Proclamation reads, whereas Deputy Carlos Ortiz

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began his law enforcement career on January 22nd, 1996 in

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the Cutler Ridge District as a road patrol officer and

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later transferred to the newly formed Town of Miami Lakes

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in 2001, continuing his service in road patrol, whereas Deputy

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Ortiz later served the Special Services Unit, now the neighborhood

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resources unit as a bicycle officer strengthening community partnerships and

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enhancing Public Safety through numerous town - sponsored events, including

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Battle of the Stars Football Tournament, Hurricane Irma Recovery Efforts,

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post - COVID food distributions, the culinary bike ride, the

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Reindeer run. The Veterans Day Parade, the 4th of July

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event, the bike rodeo, the spring fling, the Birona Vegaria

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5k and coffee with the cop. Whereas Deputy Ortiz, are

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you sure you didn't miss one there? Whereas Deputy Ortiz

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served as a police explorer advisor from 2007 to 2013.

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And again, from 2021 to 2026, a member of the

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Honor Guard from 2021 to 2025 and received over 50

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commendations for his professionalism dedication and exemplary service. Whereas throughout

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his career, Deputy Ortiz received numerous honors, including a recognition

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of exemplary performance, five certificates of commendation, a recommendation for

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department award, officer of the quarter, and police officer of

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the month. And, and his last one, whereas after 30

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years of dedicated Public Service, we congratulate Deputy Carlos Ortiz

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on his well - earned retirement and wisher many joyful

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years ahead with his beloved wife, daughter, and son. Now,

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I, Joshua Diego, is by virtue of the authority vested

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in me as the mayor of the town of Miami

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Lakes. And on behalf of the town council and 33,

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000 Miami Lakers, do hear by proclaim August 20th, 2026,

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as Deputy Carlos Diaz'day. Part of so please. Sorry, we're

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going to have to change that out. There's a little

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misprint at the end there. So sorry about that. Here,

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come join us over here in a second. And then.

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One brother.

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Next up. We have retiring from the Tanami Lakes another

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OG in the town police department. Sergeant George Soto, please

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come up. We recognized. Congrats, man. So that way, this

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way you don't have to fight with him. You know,

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we gave you a separate day. So. The proclamation for

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Sergeant Soto reads, whereas Sergeant George Soto began his law

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enforcement career on September, excuse me, everyone, please take your

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seats quietly. We are honoring our law enforcement officers who

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are retiring. Mr. Barron, please take a seat when you

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can. Thank you. All right, whereas Sergeant George Soto began

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his law enforcement career on September 25, 1995, serving in

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road patrol in the northwest district before assignments to the

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priority services unit and the community - oriented policing squad.

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Whereas in 2001, Sergeant Soto joined the newly formed town

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of Miami Lakes as a bicycle officer continuing his commitment

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to community - oriented policing and Public Safety. Whereas promoted

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to Sergeant in 2005, Sergeant Soto served as a road

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patrol supervisor before joining the neighborhood resources unit. Where he

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served as a unit and administrative sergeant organizing and overseeing

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numerous town - sponsored events, including the Battle of the

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Stars football tournament, Hurricane Irma Recovery Efforts, post - COVID

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food distributions, the colonate bike ride, the reindeer run, the

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veterans they parade, the fourth of July event among others.

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You guys are in a competition then. You know, whereas

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throughout his career, Sergeant George Soto received over 60 commendations,

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recognizing his rapid response, dedication to duty, teamwork, astute powers

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of observation, and enthusiasm, and professionalism, along with numerous recognitions,

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including police officer of the year finalist, multiple officer of

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the court of recognitions, and a recognition for exemplary performance

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from Miami - Dade Police Department, director Carlos Alvarez, and

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whereas after more than 30 years of dedicated Public Service,

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we congratulate Sergeant George Soto on his well - earned

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retirement and wish him. Many joyful years ahead with his

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beloved wife and two daughters. Now, therefore, I, Joshua Diego's,

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by virtue of the authority vested in me as the

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mayor of the Town of My Lakes, and on behalf

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of the town council in 33, 000 Miami Lakers, do

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hereby proclaim August 21st, 2026 as Sergeant George Soto Day.

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You want to say anything.

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Thank you both for your service to the community.

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At this time, and everyone, please keep your volume low.

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We are in the process of honoring members of our

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community, please. So please keep your conversation to a minimum.

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Okay. I may have to use the gavel here. Okay,

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I'm going to invite Richard Ruiz to please come up

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here with the family. Anyone else that is with you?

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For those who don't know, his father, Mara Ruiz, was

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recently passed away, unfortunately. He cut many of our hairs

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here in the town, including mine when I was a

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kid. So the Miami - League's barbershop has been a

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staple of the community for many, many years. And so

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it was a fitting honor to go ahead and recognize

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the contributions of his father. They brought an image here

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as well for those who maybe want to put a

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face to their name. And I'm sorry for your lost,

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though. Sincerely. We are proclaiming August, 2026, the entire month

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as Mario Ree's Month in the town of Miami -

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Lakes. Whereas Mar Ruiz was born on January 19, 1934.

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In Placeta's Cuba, and later immigrated to the United States

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in the 1950s, building a new life and raising a

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family, whereas Mario dedicated his new home and career in

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the United States to the barbering profession, eventually proudly owning

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and operating his own business. Whereas in the 1960s, alongside

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his brother, Mario opened his barbershop in the town of

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Miami Lakes. Please, I would ask everyone, please cease your

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conversations. Thank you. Whereas outside of work, or pardon me,

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in the 1960s, alongside his brother, Mario opened his barbershop

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in the town of Miami Lakes, where it became a

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cherished gathering place for community leaders, neighbors, and locals alike.

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That made everyone who visited feel welcomed. Whereas outside of

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work, Mario's faith was central to him with being a

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member of Immaculate Conception Catholic Church serving as an usher,

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and later as an active member of Our Lady of

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the Lakes Catholic Church. And whereas Mario made a lasting

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impact on his community and leads behind the legacy of

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love, service, and a family that includes his wife Hilda,

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his four children, five grandchildren, and five great - grandchildren.

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His memory will continue to live in the hearts of

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all who had the privilege of knowing him. Now, I,

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Joshua Diego's, by virtue of the authority vested in me

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as the mayor of the Town of Miami Lakes, and

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on behalf of the town council and 33, 000 Miami

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Lakers do hear by proclaim the month of August, 2026,

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as Mario Ruiz Month. Congratulations, Richard. And I'm sorry again

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for your loss.

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Good afternoon, on behalf of my family. I want to

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sincerely thank our community and everyone who made this special

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honor possible. Today's in a motion today for us. My

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dad. Was not only a great father. And a loved

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one, but also business man who was proud of his

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community. He worked hard to build, relationship. And served others.

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And giving back to the place he called home. Although

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he's no longer with us. Seeing him honored. With this

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proclamation reminds us of the impact of a person's life

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continues long after they're gone. His business was more than

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just a livelihood. He was part of the connection to

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this community. And to the many people he met and

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helped and worked alongside throughout the years. I noticed the

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community meant everything to my dad, and I can only

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imagine how proud and humbled he will be to receive

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this recognition. To everyone who supported his business believed him,

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worked with him, became his friend, and helped make this

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honor possible. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

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That we miss you every day. We're incredibly proud of

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what you, and we'll continue to carry your memory and

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your legacy with us. Thank you very much. Congrats, ma'am.

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Thank you. That concludes the Special presentations. We will start

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promptly at 6. 30 p. m.

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All right, one. Minute.

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Ready? 6. 30. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. The time

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is 6. 30. I am now calling this regular council

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meeting of the town council to order, Madam Clerk. Please

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call the roll. Councilmember Quadra Garcia. Council Member Fernandez. President.

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Councilmember Garcia. Present. Councilmember Herrsberg. Council Member Sanchez. Present. Vice

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Mayor Morera. Present. Mayor Diegas. Here. Mayor, you have quorum.

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Excellent. And Major Ulloa, please make sure that all the

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doors are closed because the noise is going to filter

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in here and it's going to interrupt our proceedings. With

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that, everyone please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance, which

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will be led by Councilman Sanchez.

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Thank you. Please remain standing for the Moment of Silence,

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which we'll be led by Councilmember J. C. Fernandez. Please

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bow our heads. Heavenly Father, we come before you with

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humble hearts, asking for wisdom, clarity, and unity as this

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council gathers to serve. Guide our minds to seek truth.

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Our words to build up and our actions to serve

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with integrity and grace. Help us listen well, to respect

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one another, and to pursue the common good. We ask

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these things in your name. Amen. Amen. Thank you. You

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may all be seated. Councillor, we're now in the order

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of business. Um, before I get there, I was just

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approached by Miss Soto asking that because her son is

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sick to move up. The education advisory board report to

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before Public comments. So that's one change there. Does anyone

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else have additional changes? Yes, Mayor. Councilman Garcia. Like to

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move new business item. If it's okay with the Vice

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Mayor, because Jakey's family's here. Number J of New Business

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Items. So after Public Commons. Or actually after the education

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board, does it? So before Public comments, but after the

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Education Advisor Board? Yes. And also my item as well.

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Which is in the same vein. I don't see it

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here. K, okay. Okay. Adam K as well? Can you

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say the names again? Uh, in the order that you

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want them, or the item numbers? Your J and K.

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16j. 16 Jay and 16K. Yeah, right after. At the

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Education Advisor Board Report. So, um, and then I device

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mayor since we're both items are almost the same. Would

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you like to combine them, sir? We can combine them,

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and I was going to invite the entire council to

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co - sponsor. Absolutely. Co - sponsor, absolutely. Okay, so

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16J and K will be heard together. Um, after item

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10A counts, I think it's H and K. H and

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K, okay. Okay, so. Yeah, H and K. Okay, so

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H and K, 16 H and K will be heard

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together after 10A. And then I propose moving the items

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related to the Gratiny ramp to immediately after Public comment.

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Um, so that would be, let me pull them up

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again. There we go. 16a and B. And wait, wasn't

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the third one related to the. Well, related to the

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cutter traffic. Which one was that? Because they should be

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taken up. Okay, got it. Okay, counts. I'm going to

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read it back. So the changes we are making is

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immediately following this, uh, motion. We have item 10a, 16h,

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and K, then Public comments, and then following Public comments,

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we have 16a, B, and I. Anything else. Okay, see,

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none is their emotion. It's been moved. It's just a

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second. Seconded. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All

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oppose no. You guys have it, the motion carries, and

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the item, or the agenda is amended as stated. With

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that, Madam Clerk, we are now in Public Comments. Go

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ahead and read the rules into the record. Good evening.

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Welcome to the regular council meeting. If you're here and

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you would like to provide public comments, please, you may

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do so now. You just... I apologize, Madam Clerk. Again,

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I'm just force of habit because this is normally the

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technique, but I just rewritten. Let's begin with Miss Soto

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from the Education Advisory Board to go ahead and present

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her report so we can handle that. My apologies.

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Okay, good evening, Council Members. Thank you so much for

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letting me go. Um, so for the education advisory board,

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for our, so far, our Proof Budget is a thousand

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dollars, which covers our spelling bee, which has been very

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successful. And the educational awards of excellence at the end

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of the year in May. And we have two proposed

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new initiatives. The first one would be for a Miami

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Lake School Olympian, which would be a field day event

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at Roberto Alonso Community Center, the month of February to

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highlight and showcase the six schools on their educational programs

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in the community. It's only going to be around 500

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dollars really for us, maybe less, because most of the

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expenses will be covered by the schools themselves. And our

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fundraising from the graduate banners that we've been doing and

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the food that we will sell at the event. And

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the book fair, which I believe you approved already, which

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is coming up would be for November 7th. That's the

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second initiative. And that's run by the good news book

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fair, a nonprofit that promotes the joy of reading and

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young children through clean reads that promote virtue and love

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of country. And that one's going to be held at

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the Mary Collins Center on the 7th of October. I

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may have November, excuse me. I moved to approve both

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of the events. Is there a second? Also, I can

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for discussion. Second day by Conspence for discussion. We go

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to you to begin the discussion. Thank you, Ms. Horror.

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Good to see you. Um, for the Olympiad, it sounds

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more like a school fair where parents can come and

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see what potential schools their kids can be going to.

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And Olympia to me is more of a event where

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schools compete against each other, like a spelling beach. There

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will be. There will be a competition between the schools.

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So it's a combination really of both. Do you have

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categories more or less of what they're going to be

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competing with? We're going to have a meeting, a subcommittee

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meeting on Monday of next week, and that's where we're

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going to finalize all those little details once you all

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approve for it to go forward. Yes. Would it be

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both mental challenges as well as business? Yes, we're going

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to try to have both for a variety to meet

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a different needs. Yes, absolutely. We'll not just be physical.

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Okay. Yeah. The number, thank you. Any other discussion on

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this item. KC, none, all those in favor say aye.

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Aye. All oppose no. The eyes have it. The motion

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carries. Anything else? That's it. Thank you so much. Have

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a good evening. I'm wishing your son of Speedy Recovery.

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Next up, we have 16H. You're recognized to go ahead

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and introduce the item. Oh, first and foremost, I'll actually

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just move a waiver of Section 7. 2 of the

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Specials of Order. Alright, the emotions are second on the

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way. And solely on the issue of the waiver, all

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those in favor of say aye. Aye. All opposed no.

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The ayes have it. The rule is waived. Thank you,

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Mayor. Um, I think most of you took the opportunity

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to read my item. And obviously, uh, this was written

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at a time where the statue of Jakey Duke was

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still missing. I did want, if it's okay with you,

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Mayor, uh, to open the floor to the Duke family,

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who I believe wanted to make a statement, uh, so

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at this time, I'd like to invite them to the

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podium. Yeah, yeah, they can come on up and present

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here at the podium. Are they here? Oh, I think

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they were right outside of someone who wants to call

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them in. Hey, can somebody get the Duke family, please?

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And let them know that we're, thank you, uh, director

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Bagdam. Oh, perfect. Excellent. Welcome guys. Come on. Up. The

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mic should already be on, by the way. We just

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wanted to say thank you personally. Um, the amount of

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man hours technology, just how many hours were spent, um,

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recovering Jakey Statue, Jake Easter, is of our son, but

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it, um, means so much to Miami Lakes. I think

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it was a representation of that logo. And that's how

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cliche I heart Miami leaks. My Malyks has big heart.

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And that's what this was about this Sergeant James, Detective

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Morales and the entire team, the outpour of people that

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literally would drive down and just like in disbelief. The

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amount of tips. The outpour that we got and we

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continue to get, we wanted to say thank you personally

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because it means a lot to us and it doesn't

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go unanswered. Um, Jakey started a big movement and tugged

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at so many people's hearts. And we see that and

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it continues. So we are very adamant to say that

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this isn't our park. And I think it's evident. And

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we just wanted to say thank you. I don't know.

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Appreciate it. Of course. We're glad that the, that it

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was recovered. And we look forward to when we reinstall

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it with appropriate security measures moving forward, um, to also

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go ahead and have a nice community event with you

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guys, um, we'll coordinate that as soon as possible. Yeah.

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Um, about that. I know that the officers and observation

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of all this lighting and surveillance is super important in

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that area. So we definitely want to see if we

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can have help with that. And I did talk to

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Lopsy Dobsy from Joe Di Majo. And she's on board

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for the re - unveiling of the park and is

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ready to do it. Um, and bring back to RDA

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Lakes, Jakey, where he belongs in the park. Awesome. Thank

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you. Thank you. God bless you guys. Likewise.

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Because no, what we said was to combine H and

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K. Or yeah. So number one, I wanted to thank

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the Duke family for coming out. Obviously, this was important

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to them. This was important to our town. That's why

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the new business item for it. But that's also why

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there was so much discussion online on the Facebook groups,

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uh, on WhatsApp chats, uh, I saw all sorts of

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community involvement on this. And I will say, right on

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the one hand, this act of stealing the statute shows

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potentially some of the worst that our society has to

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offer, right? Someone of that level of a depraved mind

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taking stealing the Statute of a child in fiber member

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correctly. There's a little plaque that says exactly what happened

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with Jakey. And that that would be there and that

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they would still make the decision to take it. It

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just shows that the brave state of mind. But at

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the same time, this also shows us the best of

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our times, right? When this family, this community came together,

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uh, to, to look out for the Duque family to

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submit the tips, assist law enforcement and ultimately arresting the

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suspects. And it was really very much a looking out

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for your neighbors kind of, uh, ordeal. But that being

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said, my item, uh, is primarily related to, I'm not

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going to lie to you. I didn't think that statue

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was coming back. Uh, I thought it was a goner.

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And I'm incredibly happy that I was wrong about that.

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Um, but I, the intention of my item, it was

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originally going to be to make an insurance claim because

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it is an expensive statue to make an insurance claim

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and get the ball rolling as something that you guys

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know how government is. Government doesn't work. Today shipping like

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Amazon. So we take long to do things. So I

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wanted to get the ball rolling on an insurance claim,

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get it funded and get it replaced as quickly as

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possible. Thankfully, we no longer really need to do that.

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Um, but I do want to have a discussion amongst

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my colleagues, uh, potentially any repairs or changes that are

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needed to the statute, uh, because I did see in

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a photo the fish that he was holding was separated.

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I don't know if that's that it's broken or what

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it is. What needs to be done to bring it

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back, but also any potential modifications that need to be

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made to it, to accommodate extra security, uh, measures that

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are going to be discussed today. And thank you for

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bringing your item because it's more up to date with

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the current events, right? Of, let's specifically look at, um,

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lighting, security, cameras. I think we already, Mr. Manager, do

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we already have power at that little park. I don't

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think so, Jeremy, right? No. But there may be other

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alternatives, solar power. And some, there's some solutions that maybe

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will not require actual power there. Okay. So, so I

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think at this point we'd be simply, I'm going to

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move to direct the manager to explore all options. But

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I'm willing to hear from my colleagues what options they

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would like to see him come back to us. And

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I would like to see it come back at the

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September council meeting. Is there a second? Second. It's been

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seconded and we'll go to Councilman Garcia. Thank you so

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much. Thank you Vice Mayor. Again, I want to thank

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the family. God heard their prayers and the town's prayers

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to bring back the statue. And as the Vice Mayor

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said, we can always find something good out of this.

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And I believe the re unveiling of the statue, um,

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will bring attention and much needed funds to, uh, childhood

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cancer and with the Joe DiMagio, um, hospital and whatever

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we can do as a town to continue to remind

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us that life is fragile. And we need to protect

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it and do everything we can. So the Vice Mayor

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mentioned and I would love all my colleagues to co

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- sponsor this. Um, if you can. We'd love to

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see what we can do. We need to get lighting

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at that park. We need to get cameras at that

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park. And we need to do anything we can to

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strengthen the base so that won't happen again. So that

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would be an additional motion or adding to the Vice

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Mayor's motion to make sure that doesn't happen again. And

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also I noticed, uh, the issues with the fencing and

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some issues at the park that need addressing. Perhaps we

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can take opportunity there to also make sure that park

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is at the standards that the Duke family deserves. And

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Miami Lakes deserves. So that would be my motion at

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the time. I'll second. And co - sponsores and co

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- sponsor. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on guys. Remember like,

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you know, to give me a chance to catch up.

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So with that, uh, it's been seconded by Conspend Sanchez

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and Madam Clerk, please let the record reflect that we

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are all co - sponsors on this item. Are there

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any other, is there any more discussion on this item.

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And I would ask that everyone, please silence your cell

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phones. Thank you. It's gone off a few times with

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that. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Polo Pose.

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No. The ayes have it. And the motion carries. Congratulations,

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gentlemen. Okay. Before we go. Can I make one? I

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know. I'm going to reopen the. No, no, but the

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ROS. Okay. There are apparently some folks that, uh, somehow

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got, uh, were parking over here in the, uh, eastern

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parking lot inside the black gate. That's the police parking

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area. And they need, if you're parked in there, they

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need you to go over there now and move your

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car. They, uh, may start towing cars in about 15

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minutes. So. If you're parked over here on the east

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side, inside the black gates, that is a restricted parking

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area only for law enforcement vehicles. Thank you, Mr. Manager.

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With that, I'm going to move to reopen the order

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of business in order to, well, let me start there.

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It's in second divided by the Vice Mayor. All his

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in favor of CI. All opposed no. The ads have

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it. Hey, the Sports Hall of Fame Committee would like

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to also move up their presentation. So item 10 B,

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um, I would like to hear it now so we

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can allow them to go home already. Um, is there

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with that? That is my motion. Second. And seconded, uh,

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all those in favor of say aye. Aye. Aye. All

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opposed no. You guys have it. The agenda is amended

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as stated. And we now go to the sports Hall

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of Fame committee to make their recommendations. Why does it

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feel like this.

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Good evening. Mayor Vice Mayor, Town Council. Mr. Manager, Ms.

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Clerk. Thank you for having us this evening. My name

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is Roman Garcia. I'm honored to serve as the chairman

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of the Sports Hall of Fame Committee. This will be

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our 10th year in existence. And we look forward. We

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will be recommending our ninth class for induction. Um, this

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year we have the honor of, by the way, I'm

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joined by my secretary and council and committee Jim Hamilton

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and our vice chair Miriam Ochoa was trying to make

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it, but she's running a little bit behind. We've met

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numerous times over the last couple of months trying to

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secure our class for 2026. And at the last meeting,

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we were able to come up what we feel is

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a very solid class for our ninth induction ceremony in

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December. So, uh, I'd like to present to you guys,

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um, the nominees for induction. Our first nominee is a

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former coach at both college and pro levels, including being

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the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals from 92 to

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00:47:09,850 --> 00:47:13,989
96. And he's the son of former of a member

469
00:47:14,010 --> 00:47:16,709
of the first pastor of the Hall of Fame. David

470
00:47:16,730 --> 00:47:20,549
Schule will be our first inductee this season, this year.

471
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:23,349
Our second inductee this year is a former professional football

472
00:47:23,389 --> 00:47:26,549
player who crafted his game at highly at Miami Lakes

473
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:29,533
High School. Uh, went on to play at Penn State

474
00:47:29,634 --> 00:47:33,133
where he won a national title holds numerous track and

475
00:47:33,133 --> 00:47:37,373
field records in NCAA, including a national championship in football

476
00:47:37,474 --> 00:47:40,253
with Penn State in 1986, went on to play in

477
00:47:40,253 --> 00:47:43,853
the NFL for the Patriots, among other teams. His name

478
00:47:43,853 --> 00:47:48,490
is Michael Timson. Our third inductee this year is a

479
00:47:48,511 --> 00:47:52,570
former quarterback at HML. Went on to play four seasons

480
00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:56,293
at the University of Miami. And his name is Ryan

481
00:47:56,333 --> 00:48:01,792
Collins. And our last inductee this year is a community

482
00:48:01,832 --> 00:48:06,392
builder who willingness to volunteer leads into this honor. He

483
00:48:06,453 --> 00:48:09,632
was an assistant coach just to be around his kids,

484
00:48:09,632 --> 00:48:11,912
led him to become a head coach. From there, he

485
00:48:11,912 --> 00:48:14,112
became the commissioner of the soccer program here in the

486
00:48:14,152 --> 00:48:17,392
town, uh, became the commissioner for the Miami Lakes Optimus

487
00:48:17,392 --> 00:48:19,552
Club at the time. From then to become the tournament

488
00:48:19,592 --> 00:48:22,432
director at the junior Orange Bowl where he led it

489
00:48:22,432 --> 00:48:25,312
to where it is nowaday. And his name is Don

490
00:48:25,352 --> 00:48:28,992
Tufts. Um, so that would be our recommendation for a

491
00:48:29,032 --> 00:48:32,432
class. Our event will be on the second Saturday of

492
00:48:32,472 --> 00:48:35,152
December. December 12th, I believe it is at the Optimus

493
00:48:35,192 --> 00:48:37,772
Park. We would love to see you guys there. Um,

494
00:48:38,453 --> 00:48:40,752
and I am here and Jim's here for any questions

495
00:48:40,853 --> 00:48:46,757
on, on these nominations. Any questions. Seeing none, I moved

496
00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:49,797
to accept the denominations. Is there a second? Second. I'll

497
00:48:49,837 --> 00:48:54,517
second all those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed

498
00:48:54,538 --> 00:48:57,157
no. The nominations are accepted. Thank you very much gentlemen.

499
00:48:57,197 --> 00:49:00,037
Thank you. Thank you. Have a wonderful evening. Now Madam

500
00:49:00,077 --> 00:49:02,437
Clerk, we move to you for Public comments and to

501
00:49:02,437 --> 00:49:04,597
read the rules into the record. Thank you. Good evening.

502
00:49:04,618 --> 00:49:08,437
And welcome to the regular council meeting. As always going

503
00:49:08,437 --> 00:49:11,397
to state earlier, all the Public comments will be heard

504
00:49:11,437 --> 00:49:14,037
now at the beginning of the meeting and three minutes

505
00:49:14,218 --> 00:49:18,037
will be afforded to each speaker. Old Comments and Questions

506
00:49:18,077 --> 00:49:21,317
from this Public shall be directed to the mayor in

507
00:49:21,338 --> 00:49:25,237
a court's tone and to ensure the orderly conduct and

508
00:49:25,277 --> 00:49:29,757
efficiency of a meeting three minutes maximum per person. As

509
00:49:29,757 --> 00:49:33,877
well, I always welcome the people, the individuals that are

510
00:49:33,877 --> 00:49:39,397
participating online via remote Public comments. And we will begin

511
00:49:39,498 --> 00:49:43,397
now. Just approach the podium state your name and address

512
00:49:43,658 --> 00:49:48,479
for the record. And welcome. Good evening. Mayor, vice mayor

513
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:51,759
members of the town council, William Perez 7280 Miami Lakeway

514
00:49:51,860 --> 00:49:54,479
South. I'm going to do a closing argument. I'm going

515
00:49:54,479 --> 00:49:59,190
to present five reasonable doubts against this project. Each one

516
00:49:59,190 --> 00:50:03,404
of these reasonable doubt is enough to vote no. Reasonable

517
00:50:03,425 --> 00:50:08,064
doubt number one. What is geomex's motive and intent. When

518
00:50:08,104 --> 00:50:11,104
I was at the meeting with Councilman Sanchez, he asked

519
00:50:11,125 --> 00:50:14,763
a direct question about removing the two exit lanes. The

520
00:50:14,763 --> 00:50:18,059
two expert ramps. And GMX said we'll have to look

521
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,026
whether or not it is profitable. Because they profit off

522
00:50:23,066 --> 00:50:27,852
of toll revenue. Their whole business model is to make

523
00:50:28,353 --> 00:50:33,409
money from tolls. So that tells you something huge. That

524
00:50:33,590 --> 00:50:36,209
tells you that GMX's business model is about maximizing total

525
00:50:36,249 --> 00:50:39,801
revenue. It's not about a leaving any traffic. They hope

526
00:50:39,982 --> 00:50:44,373
that traffic becomes more congested on 67. They hope it'll

527
00:50:44,373 --> 00:50:46,776
be thousands of vehicles. The one thing we haven't seen

528
00:50:46,797 --> 00:50:49,736
is the monetary business model. They didn't include that in

529
00:50:49,736 --> 00:50:52,472
the package. But they have one because they have to

530
00:50:52,472 --> 00:50:54,432
analyze whether or not removing those except ramps will make

531
00:50:54,472 --> 00:50:59,827
it fiscally feasible now. Reasonable doubt number two. What happens

532
00:51:00,088 --> 00:51:03,877
to the property values in that area. The realtor knows

533
00:51:03,877 --> 00:51:08,197
what happens. With more noise, more congestion, more activity surrounding

534
00:51:08,237 --> 00:51:13,315
those neighborhood, those property values are going to sync. It

535
00:51:13,336 --> 00:51:15,875
would affect quality of life. And when a quality of

536
00:51:15,875 --> 00:51:19,795
life declines, property values decline. And people lose their life

537
00:51:19,835 --> 00:51:24,026
savings that was built in that equity. We should not

538
00:51:25,167 --> 00:51:30,426
approve a project that creates a foreseeable reduction in property

539
00:51:30,447 --> 00:51:37,229
value. Reasonable doubt. Number three. What happens to crooked palm.

540
00:51:39,590 --> 00:51:42,901
Crook of Palm will be blocked in. When the GMX

541
00:51:42,922 --> 00:51:46,721
engineer was asked about that, his response was, we'll put

542
00:51:47,482 --> 00:51:51,515
a streetlight, put a signal light. One asked about who

543
00:51:51,536 --> 00:51:54,955
funds that. He said the county. We all know the

544
00:51:54,976 --> 00:51:59,301
county is broke. We know it. I mean, I found

545
00:51:59,301 --> 00:52:02,821
out, I took chamber meeting. They told me directly, we're

546
00:52:02,821 --> 00:52:07,049
broke. So, and also you got to ask yourself, why

547
00:52:07,070 --> 00:52:11,196
would a county fix something. That we created. We create

548
00:52:11,236 --> 00:52:13,916
that problem and we expect the county to fix it.

549
00:52:13,916 --> 00:52:16,636
So GMX saying that they want to help us approach

550
00:52:16,676 --> 00:52:20,725
the county and stuff like that. It's empty promises. Reasonable

551
00:52:20,906 --> 00:52:26,076
doubt number four. Excessive noise. I really appreciated the, uh,

552
00:52:26,117 --> 00:52:28,496
engineer talking to me. I got the environmental report that

553
00:52:28,496 --> 00:52:31,296
they had. I read the entire environment report. It identified

554
00:52:31,717 --> 00:52:35,536
67 areas where the noise level will meet or exceed

555
00:52:35,797 --> 00:52:40,142
the legal threshold. They admit that due to the residential

556
00:52:40,163 --> 00:52:44,202
area and due to the topography of the area, but

557
00:52:44,202 --> 00:52:49,015
their mitigation will be minimally effective. The other thing they

558
00:52:49,015 --> 00:52:52,535
emitted, and this is a councilman sound's question, which was

559
00:52:52,556 --> 00:52:55,495
really a good one was when he asked, have you

560
00:52:55,495 --> 00:52:59,335
done similar projects to find out if I've made, just

561
00:52:59,335 --> 00:53:01,815
got one more 10 seconds to conclude your remarks. Thanks.

562
00:53:02,866 --> 00:53:05,325
If they could find similar projects that could, that they

563
00:53:05,325 --> 00:53:07,965
did noise studies on after they've built them, they said,

564
00:53:07,965 --> 00:53:12,387
no, they don't do that. Reasonable doubt number five, uh,

565
00:53:13,208 --> 00:53:17,807
recourse for predictable secondary effects. The impact and traffic, the

566
00:53:17,807 --> 00:53:20,607
people running shortcuts will go through my Malikway South. And

567
00:53:20,607 --> 00:53:22,067
the way to address that. Thank you. Thank you very

568
00:53:22,067 --> 00:53:24,467
much. Thank you. And that additional 10 seconds will be

569
00:53:24,467 --> 00:53:34,288
afforded. An additional 10 seconds will be afforded to everyone.

570
00:53:34,288 --> 00:53:36,688
Um, as well so that we are fair with the

571
00:53:36,949 --> 00:53:40,028
time allotted. But keep in mind that as, you know,

572
00:53:40,028 --> 00:53:41,448
because the so many of us in this room, we

573
00:53:41,448 --> 00:53:43,088
need to be considered to our other neighbors and give

574
00:53:43,088 --> 00:53:45,808
them an opportunity to speak. So please try to adhere

575
00:53:46,469 --> 00:53:49,008
within the time frame. So thank you very much. Madam

576
00:53:49,048 --> 00:53:52,368
Clerk. The timer is set for three. No, no, that's

577
00:53:52,368 --> 00:53:55,208
fine. I will manually, you know, in my mind, I

578
00:53:55,208 --> 00:53:57,008
will go ahead and do the countdown. But again, I

579
00:53:57,269 --> 00:53:59,568
want to afford everybody opportunity to have a little extra

580
00:53:59,589 --> 00:54:01,248
attempt to conclude. But again, we have a lot of

581
00:54:01,288 --> 00:54:03,088
people, as you can see in the room. So in

582
00:54:03,088 --> 00:54:06,128
order to hear everyone, um, you know, I ask you,

583
00:54:06,128 --> 00:54:09,488
please be considered to our fellow residents. Go ahead, please

584
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:11,408
state your name and address for the record and you

585
00:54:11,408 --> 00:54:16,448
may proceed. Thank you. Lattice Almagear 14008 Lake George Court.

586
00:54:19,726 --> 00:54:23,225
Thank you everybody for being here. Uh, I was supposed

587
00:54:23,265 --> 00:54:26,345
to go first, by the way, um, because tonight the

588
00:54:26,385 --> 00:54:30,745
speakers are longtime residents, business owners, parents and grandparents and

589
00:54:30,745 --> 00:54:34,965
neighborhoods. Uh, they're not pay consultants. They're not lobbyists. Uh,

590
00:54:35,166 --> 00:54:40,905
they've spent countless of hours reviewing engineering studies, environmental studies,

591
00:54:40,905 --> 00:54:44,665
traffic reports, analysis and scientific data. Not because they were

592
00:54:44,665 --> 00:54:48,521
paid, but because they have something to lose. Their concern

593
00:54:48,561 --> 00:54:52,201
is not opposing progress. It's not a desire to stop

594
00:54:52,382 --> 00:54:55,705
Miami Lakes from growing. It is a commitment to ensuring

595
00:54:55,726 --> 00:55:00,546
that growth is responsible. But engineers are supposed and meant

596
00:55:00,727 --> 00:55:05,588
to solve problems, not create one. The proposal does not

597
00:55:05,588 --> 00:55:09,031
simply address the congestion somewhere else. It is creating a

598
00:55:09,052 --> 00:55:13,271
new expressway axis at northwest 67th Avenue. It will bring

599
00:55:13,452 --> 00:55:16,551
additional traffic lines into Miami Lakes and place new pressures

600
00:55:17,212 --> 00:55:20,551
on the streets that serve our homes, our community and

601
00:55:20,551 --> 00:55:24,391
our neighborhoods essentially. You cannot introduce additional vehicles into a

602
00:55:24,412 --> 00:55:28,151
residential community and call the resulting contrassion and improvement. That

603
00:55:28,172 --> 00:55:30,391
is not solving a problem. It is creating a new

604
00:55:30,412 --> 00:55:34,471
one. Good engineering are supposed to accommodate growth while protecting

605
00:55:34,511 --> 00:55:37,351
the community that that growth is meant to serve. You

606
00:55:37,532 --> 00:55:41,031
will hear about the concerns of increased crime along with

607
00:55:41,052 --> 00:55:44,391
noise, the pollution and the loss of simple of the

608
00:55:44,431 --> 00:55:48,791
peaceful character, the Miami Lakes has been defined for generations.

609
00:55:48,812 --> 00:55:51,591
You will also hear about the birth century and the

610
00:55:51,692 --> 00:55:54,791
environmental resources that can no longer, and cannot simply be

611
00:55:54,892 --> 00:55:58,545
replaced once they're lost. And as well as potential impact

612
00:55:59,126 --> 00:56:02,785
on our property values. For many families here, their home

613
00:56:03,206 --> 00:56:06,167
is their largest investment that they will ever make. They

614
00:56:06,207 --> 00:56:08,167
should not be asked to place that investment at risk

615
00:56:08,508 --> 00:56:12,691
for no benefit. Above all, listen carefully when they speak

616
00:56:12,792 --> 00:56:17,048
about the safety of our children. Buried within GMAX, PDNET

617
00:56:17,048 --> 00:56:19,688
study. It's a word that should concern everybody in this

618
00:56:19,728 --> 00:56:23,419
room. Is the word fair. That is the rating assigned

619
00:56:23,419 --> 00:56:27,819
to a child's safety. Fair. Not good, not excellent, fair.

620
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,899
Every school day, children walk through the area that it's

621
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,736
affected by this proposal. Summer is young at six years

622
00:56:35,776 --> 00:56:39,862
old. No parent should ever accept. Fair as an adequate

623
00:56:40,043 --> 00:56:43,368
standard for their child safety. And nobody here should do

624
00:56:43,368 --> 00:56:47,825
that. When you're designing infrastructure for around children, fair is

625
00:56:47,865 --> 00:56:53,745
not enough. If they cannot simply rate our child safeties

626
00:56:53,846 --> 00:56:59,928
higher than that should have serious consideration. The additional traffic

627
00:56:59,968 --> 00:57:02,808
will be here. The noise will be here. The environmental

628
00:57:02,909 --> 00:57:07,821
impacts will be here. Safety concerns will be here. Now

629
00:57:08,642 --> 00:57:10,861
this does not mean the Miami Lakes cannot grow. Of

630
00:57:10,861 --> 00:57:15,421
course it can grow. But community. Thank you. A community

631
00:57:15,442 --> 00:57:20,221
that can grow without surrendering what it's worth protecting. They're

632
00:57:20,261 --> 00:57:22,701
asking you to find a new solution, not to create

633
00:57:23,522 --> 00:57:26,061
a new problem. They will speak carefully. They will speak

634
00:57:26,101 --> 00:57:28,621
respectfully and with evidence. Please listen to them. Thank you

635
00:57:28,661 --> 00:57:31,269
very much. Jose, you want to come up?

636
00:57:39,550 --> 00:57:45,230
Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Council members and staff. My name

637
00:57:45,230 --> 00:57:50,430
is Jose Soberan. I live at 6870 bamboo street. And,

638
00:57:50,430 --> 00:57:53,150
uh, I'm at Lake Hilda resident for the last 37

639
00:57:53,171 --> 00:57:57,732
years where I raised our family. Uh, I want to

640
00:57:57,732 --> 00:58:01,787
state my opposition to the Gratiny Expansion Project. For many

641
00:58:01,808 --> 00:58:06,555
reasons. Uh, this project has very limited physical space to

642
00:58:06,576 --> 00:58:09,661
get everything that they want to build. Starting with a

643
00:58:09,661 --> 00:58:13,141
staging area that is in a very limited space. I

644
00:58:13,141 --> 00:58:15,049
don't know how they're going to do it. But it's

645
00:58:15,089 --> 00:58:18,729
going to be very hard. And also, um, through a

646
00:58:18,729 --> 00:58:22,809
build what they propose is already a lot of restrictions

647
00:58:22,849 --> 00:58:27,289
to the space and things that can be damaged irrepublique.

648
00:58:27,289 --> 00:58:31,449
So, um, they have not provided us with Lancer race.

649
00:58:32,683 --> 00:58:38,679
No tree surveys. Uh, to see what is being affected.

650
00:58:38,780 --> 00:58:41,799
The drawings that they have provided lack many dimensions and

651
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:45,399
specifications as to the space taken. And it's very critical

652
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:48,199
because it's a lack of space. So anytime you're going

653
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:51,719
to move a canal towards the lake and the buffer

654
00:58:51,759 --> 00:58:55,059
zones are there with trees and, you know, a lot

655
00:58:55,059 --> 00:58:58,599
of space that is very limited. And you start bringing

656
00:58:58,620 --> 00:59:02,899
them through together and putting a ramp, uh, with, um,

657
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:07,639
several lanes. That's going to bring a lot of problems.

658
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:12,652
Um. They also, I said the drawings, they also like

659
00:59:13,313 --> 00:59:17,772
many dimensions provided for specification. Like in the bulkhead walls,

660
00:59:17,812 --> 00:59:20,492
retention walls and this kind of thing. Uh, one important

661
00:59:20,532 --> 00:59:24,677
item is pile driving. Pile driving is going to be

662
00:59:24,698 --> 00:59:29,075
done extensively. There's sheet files made out of steel. Or

663
00:59:29,096 --> 00:59:31,535
pretty large and they get driven into the ground. And

664
00:59:31,535 --> 00:59:36,104
they also have four by four. I'm sorry two by

665
00:59:36,125 --> 00:59:39,064
two pilings made out of pre - stress concrete and

666
00:59:39,104 --> 00:59:43,304
reinforced seal. Those are square in the size of a

667
00:59:43,344 --> 00:59:47,384
telephone pole. Big ones. So that's a problem when they

668
00:59:47,384 --> 00:59:51,064
start driving those a good word for driving is hammering.

669
00:59:52,327 --> 00:59:53,706
Cause that's what they're going to do. They're going to

670
00:59:53,847 --> 00:59:57,186
take through the ground and pound it until it mechanically

671
00:59:57,367 --> 01:00:01,906
enters. That causes vibrations and it causes waves to travel.

672
01:00:02,683 --> 01:00:07,702
Through the land. That reminds me of what's happening through

673
01:00:07,702 --> 01:00:13,081
our neighbors in the West. With dynamite. And the actual

674
01:00:13,182 --> 01:00:19,161
blasting. So we can anticipate, you know, by the shaking

675
01:00:19,201 --> 01:00:27,161
that takes place. We can anticipate foundation damage walls cracks.

676
01:00:27,161 --> 01:00:30,201
That could happen anywhere. Um, so that's one of the

677
01:00:30,302 --> 01:00:35,481
problems. A very serious problem because it's very costly illustrate

678
01:00:35,521 --> 01:00:41,161
homes and make them less valuable. Also that traffic that

679
01:00:41,161 --> 01:00:44,361
is being brought closer to us is going to be

680
01:00:44,361 --> 01:00:49,661
very hard. There's also that I think more seconds. Just

681
01:00:49,762 --> 01:00:52,621
eight more seconds. Eight, I'll do that. Look at the

682
01:00:52,621 --> 01:00:55,821
room. There's, I know. There's the land taking that is

683
01:00:55,821 --> 01:01:00,841
going to take place. Uh, at the end of, um,

684
01:01:01,442 --> 01:01:06,301
of the lake. And that's going to, um, that's on

685
01:01:06,301 --> 01:01:11,021
a ramp from the sidewalk at 67th Avenue. I really

686
01:01:11,061 --> 01:01:13,821
got to move on. Just property you're talking about from

687
01:01:13,861 --> 01:01:15,421
when we were at your house yesterday. You're talking about

688
01:01:15,442 --> 01:01:18,461
the last house, the townhouse theory in crooked poem. Yeah.

689
01:01:18,461 --> 01:01:20,781
So they're taking the land there and it's a sloping.

690
01:01:20,781 --> 01:01:22,781
So whatever they bring, it's down the slope closer to

691
01:01:22,821 --> 01:01:25,981
the, um, thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Jose. And I'm

692
01:01:25,981 --> 01:01:31,292
sorry about that. Next speaker, please. Either side, either side.

693
01:01:34,019 --> 01:01:40,662
Perfect. Yes. Good evening to Mr. Mayor. Council Vice President,

694
01:01:40,662 --> 01:01:45,438
Kenneth Wilcox won 39 20 Lake Kendall accord. When it

695
01:01:45,438 --> 01:01:48,718
was brought to my attention about a GMX project, took

696
01:01:48,718 --> 01:01:51,828
into consideration. I looked at a lot of factors. Being

697
01:01:51,828 --> 01:01:53,748
that I'm a police officer for 24 years for the

698
01:01:53,748 --> 01:01:56,955
city of high Aaliyah. Uh, I know what the traffic

699
01:01:56,995 --> 01:02:01,904
congestion will do to 67th Avenue. I've monitored with my

700
01:02:01,904 --> 01:02:04,624
unit. We come here, we travel down 67th Avenue a

701
01:02:04,624 --> 01:02:08,524
lot. Just trying to commute from 57th Avenue. That runs

702
01:02:08,524 --> 01:02:11,724
into Miami Lakes East. You know, we run into traffic.

703
01:02:11,724 --> 01:02:13,564
I've monitored the traffic in the morning time going to

704
01:02:13,604 --> 01:02:17,917
work day shift now. Uh, one thing that's been a

705
01:02:17,957 --> 01:02:21,677
first responder and worked whether you work in as a

706
01:02:21,677 --> 01:02:27,722
police officer. You working as paramedic. When we get calls,

707
01:02:27,722 --> 01:02:29,562
especially when it's the emergency call, sometime we run into

708
01:02:29,583 --> 01:02:33,060
issues with traffic. And believe me. The last thing you

709
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:37,300
want to do is be stuck in traffic, run an

710
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:39,540
emergency calls. That puts a lot of stress on the

711
01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:41,780
police officer. It puts a lot of stress on the

712
01:02:41,780 --> 01:02:43,940
fire personnel, especially when you're trying to get to a

713
01:02:43,980 --> 01:02:46,955
call. For the citizens. I bought a home here in

714
01:02:46,955 --> 01:02:49,781
the town of Miami Lakes. I was a police explorer

715
01:02:49,802 --> 01:02:52,581
here in the town of Miami leaks in 1986, graduated

716
01:02:52,621 --> 01:02:55,901
from Miami Lake Senior High. What tomamic senior? I mean,

717
01:02:56,042 --> 01:02:59,281
Senior High School and graduated from the police academy. But

718
01:02:59,281 --> 01:03:01,861
when I did decide to buy a house here, I

719
01:03:02,282 --> 01:03:06,964
choose several cities. In Miami Lake's was where I wanted

720
01:03:07,305 --> 01:03:09,604
to have my home at because it's probably one of

721
01:03:09,604 --> 01:03:13,044
the safest communities. And if you look at statistics and

722
01:03:13,145 --> 01:03:16,304
you compare statistics with, I mean, Ed County, what the

723
01:03:16,304 --> 01:03:18,564
city of Hialeth is probably the safest place to travel

724
01:03:18,905 --> 01:03:22,109
in a rollway here. Okay. The last thing we want

725
01:03:22,109 --> 01:03:26,429
to do is have citizens here get hurt, okay? Because

726
01:03:26,530 --> 01:03:29,149
what happens is when people are pressed for time, people

727
01:03:29,410 --> 01:03:32,669
usually have times when they try to go from point

728
01:03:32,669 --> 01:03:34,669
A to point B, whether it's a parent dropping off

729
01:03:34,669 --> 01:03:36,589
a child to school or just trying to get to

730
01:03:36,610 --> 01:03:39,584
work to a doctor's appointment. And I know that because

731
01:03:39,584 --> 01:03:41,424
I give a lot of citations. I stop people always

732
01:03:41,464 --> 01:03:43,744
afford doing opportunity to explain to me what was the

733
01:03:43,744 --> 01:03:45,824
purpose of you driving faster. What was the purpose of

734
01:03:45,824 --> 01:03:47,803
you doing what you did. And they tell me, Hey,

735
01:03:47,803 --> 01:03:49,323
I'm just trying to get to work. And I understand

736
01:03:49,363 --> 01:03:51,995
that. So, you know, the last thing I want to

737
01:03:51,995 --> 01:03:54,355
do is see the citizens here in the, in the

738
01:03:54,395 --> 01:03:56,135
town of Miami Lakes, where we put a lot of

739
01:03:56,136 --> 01:04:00,956
trust in law enforcement. To begin cited. Accidents is going

740
01:04:00,956 --> 01:04:04,556
to happen if we have more traffic coming out, 67th

741
01:04:04,577 --> 01:04:06,636
Avenue. And if you look at when you get to

742
01:04:06,737 --> 01:04:09,796
Miami League's drive, okay, how congested it was. When I

743
01:04:09,796 --> 01:04:11,436
came over here today, I looked at the traffic and

744
01:04:11,436 --> 01:04:13,516
it was horrendous. So the last thing we need is

745
01:04:13,556 --> 01:04:15,516
more traffic over here. All he's going to do is

746
01:04:15,537 --> 01:04:17,596
create more accidents. And most of the acts that you

747
01:04:17,697 --> 01:04:20,316
see happen out here when people are traveling, whether they

748
01:04:20,356 --> 01:04:23,674
going north, you should have a rear end accents. And

749
01:04:23,855 --> 01:04:26,314
what does that happen? It's because either the traffic up

750
01:04:26,354 --> 01:04:28,794
front was congested and a vehicle in front of the

751
01:04:28,794 --> 01:04:30,914
other vehicle stopped. The other driver wasn't paying attention. If

752
01:04:30,914 --> 01:04:34,554
you got commercial vehicles coming through here and God forbid

753
01:04:34,575 --> 01:04:35,994
if it's in the school zone. And I know because

754
01:04:35,994 --> 01:04:38,554
I work traffic unless you stood out there and you've

755
01:04:38,554 --> 01:04:40,694
been on the busy area and you direct traffic, you

756
01:04:40,694 --> 01:04:42,897
wouldn't really know what it is. It's very dangerous. So

757
01:04:44,038 --> 01:04:48,177
please accept you taking consideration that, uh, to reevaluate this

758
01:04:48,678 --> 01:04:51,377
project, you know, for the safety of the citizens of

759
01:04:51,398 --> 01:04:53,537
the town of Miami leaks. And I think it's probably

760
01:04:53,537 --> 01:04:55,137
one of the best places to live at in the

761
01:04:55,137 --> 01:04:57,697
safest place. Crying rate is very low here. So that's

762
01:04:57,737 --> 01:05:00,852
something we got to take in accountability. Thank you, sir.

763
01:05:10,399 --> 01:05:12,858
Good evening Mayor Council and members. My name is Patrice

764
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:16,218
Morales. I live at 6291 Lake Butcher Shadrive. Thank you

765
01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:20,298
all for your service and GMX for the project that

766
01:05:20,338 --> 01:05:24,697
they've completed. Um, I'm here tonight asking the council to

767
01:05:24,878 --> 01:05:28,057
oppose the Gratini interchange at 67th. I understand this project

768
01:05:28,398 --> 01:05:32,297
stems from efforts 10 years ago. And with past counsels

769
01:05:32,878 --> 01:05:37,497
as a result of the continued construction and development by

770
01:05:37,537 --> 01:05:40,777
our developers. However, a decision of the past does not

771
01:05:40,817 --> 01:05:45,657
have to dictate a decision today. After reviewing the GMEX

772
01:05:45,838 --> 01:05:50,417
Public Hearing Materials and its detailed interchange justification report, I

773
01:05:50,417 --> 01:05:54,617
believe GMX's own numbers raise a fundamental question about this

774
01:05:54,718 --> 01:05:58,946
project. The project at the interchange will increase traffic on

775
01:05:59,287 --> 01:06:04,626
67th Avenue, 8 percent resulting in thousands of additional cars

776
01:06:04,887 --> 01:06:08,546
passing through there every day. Likely non - residential and

777
01:06:08,586 --> 01:06:12,626
commercial coming off at 57th cutting into 67th. At the

778
01:06:12,626 --> 01:06:19,586
same time, GMX projects modest reductions at 5726 and 154,

779
01:06:19,586 --> 01:06:22,306
combined for an average of 6. 7 percent. So the

780
01:06:22,407 --> 01:06:27,426
project does provide benefits. However, only by redistributing the traffic

781
01:06:28,007 --> 01:06:33,053
onto 67th Avenue, neighborhoods, and to the elementary school. So

782
01:06:34,594 --> 01:06:38,813
that raises an important question. If the congestion, the town

783
01:06:38,834 --> 01:06:44,173
is trying to relieve is primarily west of 67th Avenue,

784
01:06:44,173 --> 01:06:49,213
an associated with access to the Palmetto Expressway, why is

785
01:06:49,253 --> 01:06:52,893
it proposed solution and interchange at 67th? We don't have

786
01:06:53,154 --> 01:06:57,729
a problem there, so why add one now. Why isn't

787
01:06:58,150 --> 01:07:02,689
Northwest 87th Avenue interchange that's part of the master plan,

788
01:07:02,689 --> 01:07:06,049
the furthest west where the actual congestion exists, not the

789
01:07:06,089 --> 01:07:11,422
priority. This is an important because the residents of Patricia

790
01:07:11,923 --> 01:07:15,342
Hilda and Catherine will have to live with the consequences

791
01:07:15,683 --> 01:07:19,662
every day of increased traffic, changes in access, cut -

792
01:07:19,662 --> 01:07:23,102
through traffic of hundreds of cars a day, noise, pollution,

793
01:07:23,203 --> 01:07:27,102
exposure to pedestrian, bicyclists, including our own police officers on

794
01:07:27,123 --> 01:07:31,582
bicycles, right? This, in addition to property values, I believe

795
01:07:31,603 --> 01:07:36,542
the council should require answers to two questions. First, why

796
01:07:36,582 --> 01:07:40,782
should 67th Avenue accept the eight percent traffic increase to

797
01:07:40,782 --> 01:07:47,422
achieve relatively modest reductions elsewhere? Second, Y is 67th Avenue,

798
01:07:47,422 --> 01:07:51,502
the location when the congestion being addressed is further west

799
01:07:52,723 --> 01:07:57,610
and why the alternatives, including 87th Avenue. Are not the

800
01:07:57,650 --> 01:08:02,790
priority. Miami - late should solve the congestion where the

801
01:08:02,891 --> 01:08:06,070
problem exists, not simply relocate it from one part of

802
01:08:06,070 --> 01:08:09,990
the community to another until it is demonstrated that the

803
01:08:10,030 --> 01:08:14,590
benefits clearly outweigh the impacts on our residential communities. I

804
01:08:14,590 --> 01:08:17,590
respectfully ask the council to oppose the project. Thank you.

805
01:08:17,851 --> 01:08:27,782
Thank you. Before you speak, Mr. Manager has

806
01:08:27,883 --> 01:08:31,542
their final vehicle, move their car. I got a text

807
01:08:31,582 --> 01:08:32,982
from you saying that there was one more. Yeah, there

808
01:08:32,982 --> 01:08:36,902
was one more car, a Mazda, a black Mazda CX5

809
01:08:37,483 --> 01:08:40,506
is still in the police parking lot. Unless you want

810
01:08:40,506 --> 01:08:43,706
it to be towed, you please need to get out

811
01:08:43,706 --> 01:08:45,706
there and move it away from the law enforcement parking.

812
01:08:45,727 --> 01:08:49,146
Okay, well, with that, thank you very much. Welcome, please

813
01:08:49,146 --> 01:08:53,786
state your name and address. Thank you. Mary Lorenzo14365 Lake

814
01:08:53,826 --> 01:08:58,426
Candlewood Court. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Member Town

815
01:08:58,687 --> 01:09:01,786
Clerk. I'm speaking today as a Miami - electric resident,

816
01:09:01,786 --> 01:09:04,966
a homeowner, a real estate broker, a mortgage broker, and

817
01:09:04,966 --> 01:09:08,266
most importantly a mother. I strongly oppose a proposed entrance

818
01:09:08,287 --> 01:09:12,186
and exit ramps connecting the Gratiny Parkway to northwest 67th

819
01:09:12,186 --> 01:09:14,986
Avenue. As a real estate and mortgage professional, I see

820
01:09:15,026 --> 01:09:18,506
every day how important property values are to a family's

821
01:09:18,506 --> 01:09:22,506
financial future. A home is not simply where we live.

822
01:09:22,506 --> 01:09:25,786
For most families, is their largest investment. Their equity, their

823
01:09:25,807 --> 01:09:30,275
retirement security, and an important source of generational wealth. This

824
01:09:30,296 --> 01:09:33,635
is why I'm extremely concerned about the huge impact. They

825
01:09:33,635 --> 01:09:36,835
increased traffic will have on our property values. There's research

826
01:09:36,936 --> 01:09:40,675
supporting this concern. A study conducted by James E. Larson

827
01:09:40,776 --> 01:09:46,835
of Rights State University examined 9, 670 single family homes,

828
01:09:46,835 --> 01:09:50,115
home sales in catering Ohio from January 1998 through March

829
01:09:50,456 --> 01:09:54,115
2011. The study found that homes located on or adjacent

830
01:09:54,155 --> 01:09:56,675
to high traffic streets sold for an average of 8.

831
01:09:56,856 --> 01:09:59,764
1 percent less. I am not suggesting that Miami -

832
01:09:59,764 --> 01:10:02,404
leg's home will automatically lose April 1 percent. Our market

833
01:10:02,425 --> 01:10:05,844
is different, but we cannot ignore evidence that increased traffic

834
01:10:06,025 --> 01:10:11,364
and negatively affect residential property values. Homeria are valued at

835
01:10:11,385 --> 01:10:19,844
about 800, 000 dollars in value

836
01:10:23,705 --> 01:10:25,924
As the mortgage broker, I also know that property value

837
01:10:25,945 --> 01:10:29,604
affects power in power. A reduction in value can mean

838
01:10:29,644 --> 01:10:35,124
less equity available for refinancing, education, retirement, investment, or emergencies.

839
01:10:35,164 --> 01:10:38,164
This is not only about money. My oldest daughter recently

840
01:10:38,204 --> 01:10:40,724
started driving. And as a mother, that changes the way

841
01:10:40,764 --> 01:10:44,241
I look at traffic and safety in our community. Every

842
01:10:44,262 --> 01:10:46,641
time she gets behind the wheel, I worry. We can

843
01:10:46,681 --> 01:10:49,841
teach our children to drive carefully, sell their phones, watch

844
01:10:49,841 --> 01:10:52,001
their speed. You can tell how emotional arm about this.

845
01:10:52,342 --> 01:10:55,281
What we cannot control the drivers around them, adding highway

846
01:10:55,302 --> 01:10:59,601
access at Northwest 67th could change or will change traffic

847
01:10:59,601 --> 01:11:02,961
patterns and potentially bring more vehicles and cut through traffic

848
01:11:03,062 --> 01:11:05,681
onto the residential streets. I'm on Lake Countywood right by

849
01:11:05,721 --> 01:11:08,801
there. Once this runs are built, we cannot easily undo

850
01:11:08,841 --> 01:11:12,481
the consequences. Miami - Lakes families has spent decades building

851
01:11:12,521 --> 01:11:15,521
this community and investing in their homes. We should not

852
01:11:15,521 --> 01:11:18,721
be asked to risk our safety, our quality of life,

853
01:11:18,721 --> 01:11:21,521
and hundreds of thousands of dollars in family equity to

854
01:11:21,542 --> 01:11:25,841
solve a traffic problem. Please find another solution. Protect our

855
01:11:25,881 --> 01:11:29,201
neighborhoods, protect our property values, protect our families and our

856
01:11:29,201 --> 01:11:29,761
children. Thank you.

857
01:11:39,601 --> 01:11:42,700
Good evening, Mayor Vice Mayor, and members of the Town

858
01:11:42,721 --> 01:11:47,733
Council. My name is Joanne Ewert, my address is 14021

859
01:11:48,394 --> 01:11:51,013
Lake Candlewood Court, and I am asking you to deny

860
01:11:51,053 --> 01:11:55,813
that GMX Gratiny Project at Northwest 67th Avenue. I come

861
01:11:55,853 --> 01:11:58,593
before you not only as a resident and mother, but

862
01:11:58,714 --> 01:12:01,493
as a Public School Teacher who has served children and

863
01:12:01,514 --> 01:12:05,093
families for over 26 years. I understand what it means

864
01:12:05,194 --> 01:12:09,253
to make decisions that affect children's daily lives. Their safety

865
01:12:09,434 --> 01:12:12,213
and their future. That is why this project is deeply

866
01:12:12,394 --> 01:12:16,133
personal to me. My son attended highly am I Milake

867
01:12:16,173 --> 01:12:19,813
Senior High School, or I played on the basketball team.

868
01:12:19,813 --> 01:12:21,893
On game days, he and his teammates would often walk

869
01:12:21,933 --> 01:12:25,413
to Dominico's restaurant for a slice of pizza, and then

870
01:12:25,413 --> 01:12:28,773
continue their walk to our home. Those were ordinary, beautiful

871
01:12:28,794 --> 01:12:31,253
moments in a community where young people should be able

872
01:12:31,253 --> 01:12:35,653
to walk, gather, and get home safely. A highway ramp

873
01:12:35,674 --> 01:12:38,453
project that brings more fast - moving traffic into this

874
01:12:38,474 --> 01:12:42,613
area makes those ordinary moments less safe. This is not

875
01:12:42,634 --> 01:12:46,533
just about convenience, it is about risk. The Miami Herald

876
01:12:46,554 --> 01:12:51,333
Article titled Florida Second Deadliest State for Pedestrians rising toll

877
01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:54,373
and epidemic reported that Miami Dade in Broward are among

878
01:12:54,373 --> 01:12:58,113
the most dangerous places in the county for pedestrians, and

879
01:12:58,113 --> 01:13:01,493
that the Miami, Fort Lauderdale Pompano Beach Area ranked 14th

880
01:13:01,533 --> 01:13:05,413
among the 100 largest metro areas where pedestrians are most

881
01:13:05,453 --> 01:13:08,533
likely to be struck and killed by a driver. The

882
01:13:08,794 --> 01:13:12,293
Article also reported that the greater Miami, Fort Lauderdale area

883
01:13:12,394 --> 01:13:16,933
had a total of 954 pedestrian deaths from 2016 through

884
01:13:17,274 --> 01:13:23,698
2020. Florida Atlantic Universities, April 27, 26 study found that

885
01:13:23,879 --> 01:13:30,898
pedestrian and bicycle assess of risen and now account for

886
01:13:30,898 --> 01:13:33,618
about one in five traffic deaths and posing a far

887
01:13:33,719 --> 01:13:38,018
higher risk per mile traveled than driving. That describes exactly

888
01:13:38,279 --> 01:13:41,218
the concern here. This area is not just a roadway

889
01:13:41,319 --> 01:13:44,238
on a map, it is near schools, homes, restaurants, and

890
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,418
the past our children's and families use. GMX says this

891
01:13:48,458 --> 01:13:52,818
project will improve and provide congestion relief for my molylakes

892
01:13:52,839 --> 01:13:56,658
and hialia, but the verifiable Public Reporting I found is

893
01:13:56,658 --> 01:14:00,898
not give a clear percentage of traffic alleviation for Miami

894
01:14:00,938 --> 01:14:03,378
Lakes. What it does say is that the project is

895
01:14:03,418 --> 01:14:07,538
intended to accommodate a projected 17 percent increase in traffic

896
01:14:07,719 --> 01:14:14,057
over 25 years. I respectfully ask this council to stand

897
01:14:14,057 --> 01:14:17,257
with residents, family, students and homeowners, please do not approve

898
01:14:17,358 --> 01:14:20,697
a project that may shift regional traffic burdens into a

899
01:14:20,697 --> 01:14:24,155
local community. The decisions you make today will help shape

900
01:14:24,416 --> 01:14:26,555
Miami Lakes for decades to come. This is part of

901
01:14:26,595 --> 01:14:29,595
the legacy you will leave behind. The true measure of

902
01:14:29,635 --> 01:14:32,315
that legacy will not be how many vehicles move through

903
01:14:32,336 --> 01:14:35,035
our town, but how well you protected the people who

904
01:14:35,216 --> 01:14:40,167
call it home. For these reasons, I respectfully urge you

905
01:14:40,167 --> 01:14:44,887
to deny that GMX Gratny Project at Northwest 67th Avenue.

906
01:14:58,031 --> 01:15:02,090
Good afternoon. Uh, my name is Maximo Alvarez and I

907
01:15:02,090 --> 01:15:06,330
am a resident. I'm a resident and registered voter that

908
01:15:06,370 --> 01:15:09,450
lives on Lake Counterwood Court. I actually recognize some of

909
01:15:09,471 --> 01:15:12,310
your faces because they came knocking on my door, uh,

910
01:15:12,431 --> 01:15:15,050
during election time. So now here I come knocking on

911
01:15:15,050 --> 01:15:23,237
your door asking for your help. My company Sunshine Gasoline

912
01:15:23,258 --> 01:15:25,877
is the owner and operator of the mobile gas station

913
01:15:25,917 --> 01:15:29,797
on 13901 Northwest 67th Avenue. It used to be an

914
01:15:29,837 --> 01:15:32,117
Exon station, but if you haven't been by there recently,

915
01:15:32,117 --> 01:15:36,737
we converted it to mobile. Uh, I'm standing here opposed

916
01:15:38,038 --> 01:15:41,137
as a business owner and a resident of Miami -

917
01:15:41,137 --> 01:15:47,177
Lakes to the proposed 924 Grattenge Parkway Partial Interchange. On

918
01:15:47,177 --> 01:15:50,577
the basis of how it will drastically harm our business.

919
01:15:50,617 --> 01:15:53,297
Looking at the proposal for Rent B exit, we see

920
01:15:53,297 --> 01:15:57,457
that GMX has proposed to close driveway A and driveway

921
01:15:57,497 --> 01:15:59,617
B of the shopping center and limiting it to a

922
01:15:59,638 --> 01:16:02,737
single entrance between the mobile station and the shopping center.

923
01:16:03,721 --> 01:16:08,435
This will effectively kill our business. And our service station.

924
01:16:08,435 --> 01:16:13,555
The ingress and egress of any gas station that equally

925
01:16:13,595 --> 01:16:16,835
important is pricing and location. Our business model is predicated

926
01:16:16,875 --> 01:16:22,195
on ease of access the property known as the convenience

927
01:16:22,216 --> 01:16:25,732
part of the convenience tour. Simply put, if we make

928
01:16:25,772 --> 01:16:27,972
it inconvenient for our customers to get in and out

929
01:16:27,972 --> 01:16:30,452
of the site, we lose business. This has been proven

930
01:16:30,473 --> 01:16:34,323
time and time again in our retail industry. In addition,

931
01:16:34,344 --> 01:16:38,643
GMAX also plans to build a protruding median along 67th

932
01:16:38,643 --> 01:16:41,283
Avenue that will present left - turned into the site

933
01:16:41,944 --> 01:16:47,698
and outside. This is going to definitely negatively impact the

934
01:16:47,799 --> 01:16:51,459
rest of the tenant adjacent to the shopping center. Not

935
01:16:51,459 --> 01:16:53,379
just for us, but for other, the tenants there are

936
01:16:53,419 --> 01:16:55,699
the shopping center as well. We are projecting up to

937
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,565
a 65 percent decrease because of these restrictions. The harm

938
01:17:00,605 --> 01:17:05,577
of these proposals cannot be overstated. Sunshine gasoline has made

939
01:17:05,598 --> 01:17:09,417
significant investment in the property between the remodeling upgrade, dispenser,

940
01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:12,617
fueling equipment, overhauled car wash tunnel. Our company has spent

941
01:17:12,657 --> 01:17:15,257
well over a million dollars in arena and renovations on

942
01:17:15,358 --> 01:17:19,071
this one location alone. These improvements were based on the

943
01:17:19,071 --> 01:17:24,599
current traffic count. Had the GMX project gone out sooner,

944
01:17:24,599 --> 01:17:27,699
we would have never spent this kind of money. Into

945
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,336
this site. Please take these points into consideration. And also

946
01:17:32,677 --> 01:17:35,776
one last thing that my neighbor Jose brought to my

947
01:17:35,776 --> 01:17:38,336
attention that I was not aware of. We have three

948
01:17:38,357 --> 01:17:42,982
underground storage tanks. 10, 000, 12, 000, 20, 000 gasoline

949
01:17:43,022 --> 01:17:46,582
and diesel. These tanks were not rated for any type

950
01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:52,483
of shockwave damage of low frequency shockwaves. If there is

951
01:17:52,483 --> 01:17:55,203
any kind of rupture, I would not want to be

952
01:17:55,304 --> 01:17:58,243
held liable for any underground contamination as this site has

953
01:17:58,283 --> 01:18:00,403
had before, which we had had to clean up when

954
01:18:00,424 --> 01:18:05,397
we bought the property. Thank you for your time. Thank

955
01:18:05,437 --> 01:18:15,139
you. Next speaker. Mr. Mayor

956
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:19,732
Town Council, town manager. And Madam Clerk. My name is

957
01:18:19,913 --> 01:18:24,452
Jim Hamilton. I live at 8528 Glenn Karen, Lane and

958
01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:28,125
Miami Lakes. I am here tonight with my neighbors to

959
01:18:28,165 --> 01:18:33,085
strongly oppose the expansion of the Gratinae Expressway to 67th

960
01:18:33,125 --> 01:18:39,777
Avenue. We understand the urge to optimize traffic flow and

961
01:18:39,817 --> 01:18:43,889
expand the feeder system for commuters. But convenience for passing

962
01:18:44,230 --> 01:18:48,369
motorists cannot come at this steep, permanent, expense of the

963
01:18:48,409 --> 01:18:53,730
people who actually live here. Quality of life must take

964
01:18:53,770 --> 01:18:58,930
a priority over a minor reduction in traffic times. There

965
01:18:58,970 --> 01:19:03,570
are 76 townhomes in Lake Hilda with a resident count

966
01:19:03,591 --> 01:19:09,521
of 222. Many of these homeowners are retired and never

967
01:19:09,561 --> 01:19:14,679
thought they would be challenged like this project presents. Currently

968
01:19:14,780 --> 01:19:17,719
it is difficult to enter and exit the Lake Hill

969
01:19:17,759 --> 01:19:21,678
the Townhouse section. But it would be a nightmare if

970
01:19:21,678 --> 01:19:26,567
this Project were approved. Between a median, the increasing heavy

971
01:19:26,607 --> 01:19:29,447
traffic flow and the closing of an entrance to the

972
01:19:29,708 --> 01:19:33,847
Lake Patricia's Shopping Center would make it impossible to turn

973
01:19:33,948 --> 01:19:39,702
left and head north. This alone should be a non

974
01:19:39,883 --> 01:19:45,046
- starter for the proposed road expansion. Lake Hilda Townhouses

975
01:19:45,467 --> 01:19:48,646
are the closest to the project and will suffer the

976
01:19:48,686 --> 01:19:54,586
most damage as presented tonight. Now Miami Lakes prides itself

977
01:19:54,687 --> 01:19:59,273
with a slogan growing beautifully. But it should not grow

978
01:19:59,374 --> 01:20:04,233
over the residents with detrimental projects that downgrade our quality

979
01:20:04,233 --> 01:20:08,941
of life. The human element is missing in this decision,

980
01:20:08,941 --> 01:20:12,141
but it should be the first and most important part

981
01:20:12,162 --> 01:20:16,301
of a formula to protect the homeowner while looking for

982
01:20:16,322 --> 01:20:21,810
ways to improve Miami Lakes. This road expansion has too

983
01:20:21,810 --> 01:20:26,850
many unanswered questions, and we the homeowners respectively request you

984
01:20:26,850 --> 01:20:32,199
to vote no on this road expansion project. Thank you.

985
01:20:41,266 --> 01:20:46,983
Good evening. Gentlemen. My name is Maggie Caceres. Oh, sorry.

986
01:20:48,465 --> 01:20:53,164
Maggie Caeras, and I reside at 14131 Lake Candlewood Court.

987
01:20:55,351 --> 01:20:58,690
I want to continue with everyone's conversation. So as if

988
01:20:58,730 --> 01:21:02,290
all of that, we're not enough. Um, what's already been

989
01:21:02,290 --> 01:21:06,814
mentioned. You know, I want to talk about the Graham

990
01:21:06,835 --> 01:21:10,778
Derrick Canal. So as you know, most of the man

991
01:21:10,799 --> 01:21:13,738
- made canals or lakes in Miami - Lakes are

992
01:21:13,839 --> 01:21:17,566
drainage stitches. But the Graham Dair Canal is different. The

993
01:21:17,907 --> 01:21:22,606
Gram Dairy Canal influences our local waterway sits above and

994
01:21:22,627 --> 01:21:26,286
connects hydrologically to the Biscane aquifer and feeds into the

995
01:21:26,387 --> 01:21:31,006
Florida everglades watershed boundaries. Realigning it, which basically means moving

996
01:21:31,667 --> 01:21:36,538
it over. And adding several acres of impervious ramp service

997
01:21:37,599 --> 01:21:41,418
alongside it changes how water will move through this basin.

998
01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:44,538
This realignment will not only eliminate some of our precious

999
01:21:44,639 --> 01:21:47,738
decades - old canopy and brush. It will destroy local

1000
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:53,098
urban wildlife and sensitive migratory corridors that tie back to

1001
01:21:53,098 --> 01:21:56,778
the Everglade system. I'd like to mention I wasn't going

1002
01:21:56,778 --> 01:22:02,038
to get into detail, but there have been, you know,

1003
01:22:02,038 --> 01:22:08,218
documented sightings of Bald Eagles, adult and minor, along hunting

1004
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:11,258
along the Grand Derrick Canal on the side of Lake

1005
01:22:11,298 --> 01:22:14,218
Patricia. And on the side of Lake Hilda, we actually

1006
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:18,058
have videos from a neighbor and pictures of manatees in

1007
01:22:18,058 --> 01:22:21,218
the water. Both of those are federally protected species. So

1008
01:22:21,218 --> 01:22:23,722
that's something that we need to keep in mind. Okay?

1009
01:22:25,898 --> 01:22:29,237
Okay, so this build also puts us at risk of

1010
01:22:29,418 --> 01:22:32,757
severe local flooding and contamination of the canal and our

1011
01:22:32,797 --> 01:22:38,110
lakes could be adversely affected. And affecting the receiving waters,

1012
01:22:38,110 --> 01:22:44,110
which are the biscane aquifer and the protected Florida everglades.

1013
01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:47,790
As you know, in order to protect our sensitive ecosystem,

1014
01:22:47,790 --> 01:22:51,230
we have reached out to local conservation advocacy groups for

1015
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:55,437
assistance. We needed to do that. But let's take a

1016
01:22:55,437 --> 01:23:00,077
step back for a second. And just bird's eye view

1017
01:23:00,077 --> 01:23:04,253
this whole thing. So aside from endangering our children. Lowering

1018
01:23:04,274 --> 01:23:07,853
our property values, increasing traffic by turning the heart of

1019
01:23:07,954 --> 01:23:11,853
Miami - lakes into a release valve for 57th Avenue,

1020
01:23:12,114 --> 01:23:17,496
Commercial and Non - residential traffic. Trapping and ruining the

1021
01:23:17,517 --> 01:23:21,656
quality of Lake Hilda residents ruining the quality of life

1022
01:23:22,157 --> 01:23:25,096
for the Lake Patricia Section 1, and that is Via

1023
01:23:25,136 --> 01:23:27,176
Noise, because I have it in my backyard. And I'm

1024
01:23:27,176 --> 01:23:31,357
going to even that close. I'm midway through. And also

1025
01:23:31,458 --> 01:23:34,797
ruining the Lake Catherine, which is here represented, they decided

1026
01:23:34,797 --> 01:23:39,597
to join us. Um, damaging the small businesses and causing

1027
01:23:39,778 --> 01:23:43,757
local job losses in the Lake Patricia Center basically just

1028
01:23:43,757 --> 01:23:48,313
turning. The beloved East side of Miami Lakes into an

1029
01:23:48,334 --> 01:23:52,953
undesirable place to live. We are treading on thin ice

1030
01:23:52,953 --> 01:23:56,073
when we threaten our federally protected waterways and wildlife. Thank

1031
01:23:56,073 --> 01:24:05,868
you. Thank you. Thank you. Before I

1032
01:24:05,889 --> 01:24:10,428
begin, we're going to be putting a video on while

1033
01:24:10,428 --> 01:24:20,319
I speak. He's getting it ready. There we go. Okay,

1034
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:29,623
Alex Ariano. Lake Lanellan. Ordinance 23 - 315 was codified

1035
01:24:29,644 --> 01:24:32,903
to make sure that my Emile Lakes continues to be

1036
01:24:33,564 --> 01:24:40,685
a recognized as bird sanctuary. A local photographer captured the

1037
01:24:41,026 --> 01:24:44,765
bird species. We are blessed with from an Osprey by

1038
01:24:44,765 --> 01:24:49,325
the lake to the 2015 story of nesting Bald Eagles

1039
01:24:49,506 --> 01:24:54,045
that halted the 87th Avenue expansion and roadway improvement project

1040
01:24:54,066 --> 01:25:02,042
on 181st Street. Hope still remembers nesting owls that used

1041
01:25:02,082 --> 01:25:05,242
to be underneath the Palmetto Expressway, never to be seen

1042
01:25:05,282 --> 01:25:10,870
again. Falcons, Egyptian geese, birds that spread their wings to

1043
01:25:10,891 --> 01:25:14,870
capture our sun ray as they dry after fishing in

1044
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:19,083
our lakes. Trees and birds, their habitat and tree canopy

1045
01:25:19,184 --> 01:25:25,078
loss along the canal corridor would be devastating. The canal

1046
01:25:25,259 --> 01:25:30,038
corridor and the adjacent tree and brush ecosystems function as

1047
01:25:30,059 --> 01:25:35,638
an urban wildlife refuge supporting mammals, species, and resident and

1048
01:25:35,638 --> 01:25:42,374
migratory birds. Canopy removal, brush clearing, and heavy construction activity

1049
01:25:42,475 --> 01:25:47,094
will displace the wildlife and will not be reversed by

1050
01:25:47,355 --> 01:25:52,125
replacing trees after the fact. When homes were originally purchased

1051
01:25:52,386 --> 01:25:56,745
in the first communities Lake Patricia Hilda and Catherine, the

1052
01:25:56,745 --> 01:26:01,986
beauty and tranquility of our surroundings was sincerely appreciated. We

1053
01:26:02,247 --> 01:26:05,826
want you to resolve to be against Ramps on or

1054
01:26:05,927 --> 01:26:10,294
off. At 67th Avenue. You may have campaigned to resolve

1055
01:26:10,475 --> 01:26:14,934
traffic concerns, but the council continued to approve developer projects

1056
01:26:15,355 --> 01:26:22,135
which increase our traffic. GMX chief operation officer clearly said

1057
01:26:22,556 --> 01:26:26,375
on record that GMX would not proceed and go elsewhere

1058
01:26:27,196 --> 01:26:30,375
if the council or the residents were against the project.

1059
01:26:37,967 --> 01:26:42,676
Well. Property owners are a hundred percent against it. Please

1060
01:26:42,697 --> 01:26:46,596
hear us and represent our interest, leaving no doubt that

1061
01:26:46,777 --> 01:26:50,816
after the due diligence done by the property owners, you

1062
01:26:50,816 --> 01:26:55,476
understand the serious issues that would surface otherwise, the unified

1063
01:26:55,977 --> 01:27:00,356
homeowners and residents of Miami Lakes are against GMX ramps.

1064
01:27:02,005 --> 01:27:02,544
Just say no.

1065
01:27:13,401 --> 01:27:17,059
Good evening. Mr. Mayor and council members. My name is

1066
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:22,099
Juliana Colombo. I live at 14031 leg candle with core.

1067
01:27:22,099 --> 01:27:25,619
I'm a retired pharmacist, healthcare is very important to me.

1068
01:27:25,619 --> 01:27:29,219
And I moved here into Miami Lakes because Miami Lakes

1069
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:33,539
and the Graham Company build an excellent community master plan

1070
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:39,539
community that was renowned with envy of many developers winding

1071
01:27:39,579 --> 01:27:45,439
roads, quiet, uh, friendly place to raise your children. And

1072
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,819
that's why I bought here. I didn't buy for noise.

1073
01:27:48,819 --> 01:27:51,219
I want to explain to you and I hope that

1074
01:27:51,259 --> 01:27:56,735
you hear me. What noise does. The biggest study on

1075
01:27:56,756 --> 01:28:01,215
noise was done by the World Health Organization. It was

1076
01:28:01,316 --> 01:28:06,415
a study that involved 53 countries. And it was over

1077
01:28:06,836 --> 01:28:11,515
39 years. They actually followed patients for 20 years. The

1078
01:28:11,636 --> 01:28:17,055
result of that study is that continuous noise 65 decibels

1079
01:28:17,396 --> 01:28:22,815
and over leads to is linked to cardiovascular disease. Type

1080
01:28:22,836 --> 01:28:30,716
2 diabetes, insomnia, dementia. Uh, weight gain. Uh, and in

1081
01:28:30,756 --> 01:28:37,418
children, a loss of learning ability. Loss of memory, permanently

1082
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:44,899
autistic children are severely impacted by noise. This just on

1083
01:28:44,899 --> 01:28:49,859
that alone, this project should be rejected completely. They will

1084
01:28:49,899 --> 01:28:53,299
not do a noise abatement that's going to reduce that

1085
01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:59,939
noise below 65. In fact, according to their draft, which

1086
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,499
I looked over, it's a draft. Okay. First of all,

1087
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,939
the numbers are inaccurate. Why are they inaccurate? The rush

1088
01:29:09,979 --> 01:29:13,619
hour is 7 to 9. 30 in the morning. And

1089
01:29:13,659 --> 01:29:17,299
4 to 7. If you look at what they at

1090
01:29:17,339 --> 01:29:23,299
their numbers, they took most of them at 9 something

1091
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:29,379
in the morning, 9 45 at 6 52 way past

1092
01:29:29,419 --> 01:29:34,927
the rush hour. And even so they documented right there

1093
01:29:34,927 --> 01:29:39,567
on that intersection where the, um, gas station is 77.

1094
01:29:41,005 --> 01:29:43,944
And that's an inaccurate number because it was done at

1095
01:29:44,125 --> 01:29:48,904
652 in the evening. That means and their conclusion of

1096
01:29:49,165 --> 01:29:52,664
the study is that there will be no further noise

1097
01:29:52,664 --> 01:29:56,344
abatement done on the gratiny. Only on the ramp going

1098
01:29:56,384 --> 01:30:01,944
up. And that by the noise abatement criteria only has

1099
01:30:01,944 --> 01:30:08,068
to go down seven decimals to two sectors. Two sectors.

1100
01:30:08,068 --> 01:30:15,076
That's it. So of the 229 residences that are going

1101
01:30:15,076 --> 01:30:19,356
to be impacted, you're talking maybe 11 are going to

1102
01:30:19,356 --> 01:30:24,276
be, um, have a noise abatement of less than seven.

1103
01:30:24,276 --> 01:30:27,876
If you're hitting a noise level of 80 minus seven

1104
01:30:27,916 --> 01:30:31,796
is 73. That's way above 65. Okay. Thank you.

1105
01:30:40,178 --> 01:30:44,877
Good evening. I'm Sam Bud Long. I live at 14411

1106
01:30:44,978 --> 01:30:49,837
Lake Child's court. I am 72 years old, a baby

1107
01:30:49,877 --> 01:30:54,166
boomer and a child of the 1960s. My parents fought

1108
01:30:54,427 --> 01:30:57,364
in World War II. A part of America's greatest generation.

1109
01:30:59,346 --> 01:31:04,445
People who sacrificed wore their country and then rebuilt America

1110
01:31:04,466 --> 01:31:09,858
for the greater good. People of strong character. Hard work

1111
01:31:10,519 --> 01:31:15,451
and substance. They understood their meaning of doing the right

1112
01:31:15,552 --> 01:31:21,691
thing. Something deeply ingrained in me. The 60s were a

1113
01:31:21,691 --> 01:31:25,611
decade of great turbulence. Unrest and challenged for our country.

1114
01:31:26,255 --> 01:31:32,121
I saw a president get his head blown off. His

1115
01:31:32,142 --> 01:31:37,823
brother. Shot and killed at point blank range. I saw

1116
01:31:37,924 --> 01:31:44,423
the greatest American advocate. For civil rights murdered. I saw

1117
01:31:44,444 --> 01:31:51,096
Detroit decimated. By violence. Brought on by police brutality. I

1118
01:31:51,197 --> 01:31:54,607
joined a half a million brothers and sisters. Protesting the

1119
01:31:54,628 --> 01:31:59,436
Vietnam War. In front of the United's. Oh. And I

1120
01:31:59,436 --> 01:32:02,636
also got to see the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and

1121
01:32:02,676 --> 01:32:04,476
managed to attend a festival you may have heard of

1122
01:32:04,977 --> 01:32:10,178
Woodstock. The 60s were a time of great pain and

1123
01:32:10,279 --> 01:32:14,978
violence for Americans. And peaceful protests throughout the land emerged.

1124
01:32:15,884 --> 01:32:22,567
Seeking change. They sought a better direction. A better life.

1125
01:32:23,874 --> 01:32:29,956
Better Governmental Rentation of the will of the people. These

1126
01:32:30,457 --> 01:32:35,293
people, these peaceful protests came to find four words. That

1127
01:32:35,554 --> 01:32:39,373
were used again and again and again to put into

1128
01:32:39,413 --> 01:32:46,776
perspective what we, the people wanted. Peace. Fairness to others,

1129
01:32:46,776 --> 01:32:48,616
and that our voices were not just to be heard.

1130
01:32:48,976 --> 01:32:54,694
But to be acted upon by those of authority. I

1131
01:32:54,875 --> 01:32:58,018
want to say those four words. And I ask that

1132
01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:02,098
after I say them, those of you here tonight, who,

1133
01:33:02,098 --> 01:33:05,538
like me, wish to deny the Gratiny Project, raise up

1134
01:33:05,578 --> 01:33:10,459
the paper with this symbol. And phrase. And repeat with

1135
01:33:10,459 --> 01:33:13,499
me, as I say those words, three more times, those

1136
01:33:13,499 --> 01:33:18,299
four words are power to the people, power to the

1137
01:33:18,339 --> 01:33:20,779
people, and power to the people.

1138
01:33:32,924 --> 01:33:37,543
Now you gentlemen know a little bit about what it

1139
01:33:37,543 --> 01:33:41,983
was like to be in the 1960s. It was a

1140
01:33:41,983 --> 01:33:44,063
great time to be an American standing up for what

1141
01:33:44,103 --> 01:33:46,223
the Bill of Rights tells us whom we are to

1142
01:33:46,263 --> 01:33:50,744
the core. We are here to ask, help, to help

1143
01:33:50,784 --> 01:33:54,664
us 60 years later, to remember those four words and

1144
01:33:54,704 --> 01:33:59,464
act as your constituents'voices beckon the right thing to be

1145
01:33:59,504 --> 01:34:03,898
done. Show us your character, your substance. And vote unanimously

1146
01:34:03,938 --> 01:34:06,378
for the right thing and deny this project. Remember the

1147
01:34:06,418 --> 01:34:09,258
word spoken last month at 7. 50 p. m. by

1148
01:34:09,519 --> 01:34:13,578
GMXC0 Claudio DS Fario. It won't happen unless we get

1149
01:34:13,618 --> 01:34:20,350
the support of the council. The time pass, correct? I

1150
01:34:20,350 --> 01:34:23,070
do have one sec. I have one sentence for the

1151
01:34:23,091 --> 01:34:28,457
clerk. I will end my comments by asking Madam Clerk,

1152
01:34:28,457 --> 01:34:30,617
please read into the record all the names of emails

1153
01:34:30,958 --> 01:34:34,377
opposing the Gratiny Project at 67th Avenue. Thank you very

1154
01:34:34,377 --> 01:34:44,338
much. Thank you. Well, I don't think I'm going

1155
01:34:44,338 --> 01:34:48,178
to top that, but I have some comments. Uh, my

1156
01:34:48,178 --> 01:34:52,658
name is Karina Nogueras. My address is 7014 Holly Road.

1157
01:34:52,658 --> 01:34:56,098
Good evening, town manager, mayor and members of the town

1158
01:34:56,119 --> 01:34:59,458
council. I am here tonight to strongly oppose the Gratiny

1159
01:34:59,559 --> 01:35:03,218
partial interchange on 67th Avenue. As is evident from the

1160
01:35:03,218 --> 01:35:05,618
number of Redis and who have spoken tonight, I am

1161
01:35:05,618 --> 01:35:08,498
not alone. You have heard from many residents tonight who

1162
01:35:08,599 --> 01:35:12,098
do not want this expansion in their community, each with

1163
01:35:12,098 --> 01:35:15,138
their own valid reason. We have yet to hear from

1164
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:24,995
a resident that supports it. People choose to live in

1165
01:35:24,995 --> 01:35:28,275
Miami Lakes because of its small town character. It's tree

1166
01:35:28,296 --> 01:35:30,995
- lined streets and its well - kept neighborhoods. Those

1167
01:35:31,096 --> 01:35:35,955
things don't just happen. They exist because the town's administration.

1168
01:35:35,955 --> 01:35:38,755
It's elected body and residents. Have time and time again

1169
01:35:39,336 --> 01:35:43,635
chosen to embrace our town slogan growing beautifully. While development

1170
01:35:43,656 --> 01:35:47,555
and change in South Florida is inevitable, this proposed interchange

1171
01:35:47,595 --> 01:35:51,395
comes at the expense of the town's identity. Instead, it

1172
01:35:51,576 --> 01:35:55,075
risks what is now a welcoming gateway into a small

1173
01:35:55,096 --> 01:35:58,515
town highlighting the difference between our neighbor to the south

1174
01:35:59,256 --> 01:36:02,595
into a gridlock afterthought, like we see in Hialiyah where

1175
01:36:02,635 --> 01:36:06,721
developments are approved without a second thought. The people who

1176
01:36:06,742 --> 01:36:10,001
purchased homes here did not choose Miami - Lakes because

1177
01:36:10,102 --> 01:36:13,361
it looks and feels like every part of my. They

1178
01:36:13,361 --> 01:36:16,801
chose it because it doesn't. The difference is stark and

1179
01:36:16,801 --> 01:36:20,001
the premium, in my opinion, is worth it. We should

1180
01:36:20,041 --> 01:36:23,761
not be asking not only whether this project can accommodate

1181
01:36:23,801 --> 01:36:27,681
more traffic, but whether it is compatible with a community,

1182
01:36:27,681 --> 01:36:30,241
so many before me, have worked so hard to preserve.

1183
01:36:30,982 --> 01:36:35,521
The proposed project contradicts the motto growing beautifully, entirely, creating

1184
01:36:35,622 --> 01:36:40,081
an eyesore of an interchange that will fundamentally change the

1185
01:36:40,262 --> 01:36:42,801
town's character that makes people want to live here in

1186
01:36:42,801 --> 01:36:45,681
the first place. Again, you have heard from so many

1187
01:36:45,862 --> 01:36:49,601
residents who oppose this project and not one comment and

1188
01:36:49,601 --> 01:36:52,561
support. I trust that you will consider our comments when

1189
01:36:52,742 --> 01:36:54,801
a resolution is brought up for a vote. Thank you.

1190
01:37:03,244 --> 01:37:10,841
Hello, Derek Cintron14821, Lewis Road. Greetings everybody. And thank you

1191
01:37:11,042 --> 01:37:13,181
so much for those of you who wrote me back.

1192
01:37:14,587 --> 01:37:18,326
From the email I sent out. I really appreciate that.

1193
01:37:18,326 --> 01:37:22,060
Um. This is so much to say, but a lot

1194
01:37:22,060 --> 01:37:25,120
of people have said it so eloquently before, so I'll

1195
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,160
try to stick to something that hasn't really been mentioned

1196
01:37:28,501 --> 01:37:34,151
a lot. Um, they're all, there are alternatives to this,

1197
01:37:34,151 --> 01:37:35,991
as you know, because I've talked with you about them.

1198
01:37:37,517 --> 01:37:40,856
That will work better for our traffic situation that will

1199
01:37:40,896 --> 01:37:43,865
work much better. Right now what's going to happen if

1200
01:37:43,865 --> 01:37:45,945
you put in these ramps, even just the on -

1201
01:37:45,945 --> 01:37:50,985
ramps is people are going to either, if you put

1202
01:37:50,985 --> 01:37:52,745
on the off - ramps too, they're going to get

1203
01:37:52,785 --> 01:37:56,064
off on 67th instead of 57th. And they're going to

1204
01:37:56,285 --> 01:37:59,864
drive into town and they're going to turn west on

1205
01:37:59,965 --> 01:38:03,064
Miami Lakes drive, and they're then going to be at

1206
01:38:03,104 --> 01:38:05,944
the same intersection. That is the heart of all of

1207
01:38:05,944 --> 01:38:10,424
our problems, which is the Palmetto and Miami Lakes Drive.

1208
01:38:10,990 --> 01:38:14,409
That is the worst intersection by far in this town.

1209
01:38:14,409 --> 01:38:17,449
And it is created because it is the only conduit

1210
01:38:18,030 --> 01:38:21,932
between the East and West sides. So no matter where

1211
01:38:21,953 --> 01:38:25,772
you put a connection to the Gretignee, those people will

1212
01:38:25,953 --> 01:38:28,972
still have to make their way over to my Emile

1213
01:38:29,012 --> 01:38:34,812
Lakes drive. Now, if you connect 87th Avenue to I

1214
01:38:34,852 --> 01:38:38,522
- 75. You take thousands of cars. Out of the

1215
01:38:38,562 --> 01:38:43,482
equation for the intersection of the Palmetto and Miami Lakes

1216
01:38:43,522 --> 01:38:49,002
Drive. If you put in ramps on our side on

1217
01:38:49,263 --> 01:38:52,122
170th to connect with I - 75. And on the

1218
01:38:52,223 --> 01:38:57,402
highlight side, 154th, you have no pass - through traffic

1219
01:38:57,743 --> 01:39:00,122
yet you still have access if people want to go

1220
01:39:00,122 --> 01:39:02,842
through the towns and just discourages them from going through

1221
01:39:02,882 --> 01:39:05,802
the town to pick up the Palmetto. They can just

1222
01:39:05,842 --> 01:39:08,202
get on I - 75 and then get to the

1223
01:39:08,383 --> 01:39:16,723
Palmetto. So these three things that are relatively easy constructions,

1224
01:39:16,723 --> 01:39:20,243
it's just a ramp up to a bridge, which has

1225
01:39:20,243 --> 01:39:24,643
already existing. And that's it. A light at that intersection,

1226
01:39:24,643 --> 01:39:26,883
and it's a done deal. These are very simple construction

1227
01:39:27,064 --> 01:39:32,866
projects. As far as roads are concerned. And, um, they

1228
01:39:32,887 --> 01:39:38,226
would do 10, 000 times more to relieve all the

1229
01:39:38,247 --> 01:39:44,300
pressure in my Emile Lakes traffic. And I know there,

1230
01:39:44,300 --> 01:39:45,800
you know, oh, well, what if they start, you know,

1231
01:39:45,921 --> 01:39:49,020
overdeveloping the middle of town or, you know, the development

1232
01:39:49,041 --> 01:39:52,269
that happens on the east side. That can also be

1233
01:39:52,290 --> 01:40:00,829
addressed by this, because as you reclaim those points of,

1234
01:40:00,829 --> 01:40:04,909
well, you'd have to also, you'd have to also synchronize

1235
01:40:04,930 --> 01:40:09,266
the lights on 67th and 57th. So that they, they

1236
01:40:09,306 --> 01:40:12,706
have better access there to the Palmetto, but you'd now

1237
01:40:12,706 --> 01:40:16,386
have three reclaimed intersections to the Palmetto, and you wouldn't

1238
01:40:16,487 --> 01:40:20,786
need the Gretignee. The second technique connection, because we already

1239
01:40:20,826 --> 01:40:23,787
have one. On 57th. Okay, thank you, sorry. No, appreciate

1240
01:40:23,808 --> 01:40:24,027
it.

1241
01:40:35,495 --> 01:40:41,100
Good evening, Mr. Mayor Weiss, and on the councilman. I

1242
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:47,166
am resident, Lenelland. Long time. And this time not only

1243
01:40:47,187 --> 01:40:52,886
come for myself on behalf of all my friends, my

1244
01:40:52,947 --> 01:40:56,126
residents, all the living here. The problem we have with

1245
01:40:56,147 --> 01:41:01,086
the date county, which cannot take no longer exercise classes.

1246
01:41:02,305 --> 01:41:05,315
And we need that. Most of them, most of us

1247
01:41:05,976 --> 01:41:10,032
have no rights. Cannot drive, and does the program we

1248
01:41:10,072 --> 01:41:15,817
like it. And we requested to you and the console

1249
01:41:15,817 --> 01:41:20,457
of the Miami Lake, please take apart and continue this

1250
01:41:20,497 --> 01:41:26,265
program. For us. We need it. Okay, we need that

1251
01:41:26,366 --> 01:41:29,145
program because of most of them is just cannot even

1252
01:41:29,326 --> 01:41:32,405
drive it there. And we need for our, you know,

1253
01:41:32,606 --> 01:41:36,025
like keep us in our health, in shape. And we

1254
01:41:36,025 --> 01:41:39,545
need that. And we hope very hopefully with the Mr.

1255
01:41:39,585 --> 01:41:43,305
Mayor that you can support us and take the cause

1256
01:41:43,406 --> 01:41:47,145
of the program. And we'll be very thankful and we'll

1257
01:41:47,145 --> 01:41:50,505
be very happy. If you give us a chance again,

1258
01:41:50,505 --> 01:41:52,665
and we count on you, we love you, we love

1259
01:41:52,766 --> 01:41:56,265
our town. We love Miami. And then hopefully in the

1260
01:41:56,265 --> 01:41:58,745
future, we're going to look further for you, for your

1261
01:41:58,745 --> 01:42:01,945
help, your cooperation. Yeah, no, can you say your address

1262
01:42:01,985 --> 01:42:08,556
for the record? Okay. We were missing that, yeah. Your

1263
01:42:08,556 --> 01:42:11,138
name and address. Okay, and here are you. Your name

1264
01:42:11,159 --> 01:42:14,514
and address. Okay. See, there is something wrong. With that.

1265
01:42:14,535 --> 01:42:19,072
Give it to you. No, just say it out loud.

1266
01:42:19,093 --> 01:42:27,792
Yeah, my name is ASLMKNCont151303FINTRY PL place, ma'am illeg, Florida

1267
01:42:28,053 --> 01:42:32,352
33016. Please, and I receive your letter to appreciate for

1268
01:42:32,373 --> 01:42:35,632
that letter. Yeah, no, and again, sorry, there must be

1269
01:42:35,632 --> 01:42:37,872
something going on here with the mic. I don't know.

1270
01:42:37,872 --> 01:42:40,912
You know, but that said, it directed back down. It's

1271
01:42:40,912 --> 01:42:42,592
going to meet with you to address that. I know

1272
01:42:42,613 --> 01:42:44,592
that was some of our programs. We've had some issues

1273
01:42:45,253 --> 01:42:48,032
with certain partners not signing off when they need to.

1274
01:42:48,032 --> 01:42:50,832
Um, but absolutely. We're here for you and the director

1275
01:42:50,872 --> 01:42:52,432
will take care of you. He's the gentleman right over

1276
01:42:52,472 --> 01:42:56,992
there in the green blazer. Thank you very much again.

1277
01:42:57,093 --> 01:42:59,872
No, of course. Recorrence. We appreciate that. No, thank you

1278
01:42:59,872 --> 01:43:08,349
so much. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Council, my name is

1279
01:43:08,389 --> 01:43:14,587
Sean Schwinghammer. I live at 14501 Dade Pine Avenue. The

1280
01:43:14,627 --> 01:43:18,874
older I get, the younger the council gets. Um. But

1281
01:43:19,295 --> 01:43:21,194
a little word of advice from when I was elected

1282
01:43:21,295 --> 01:43:25,174
in this city, uh, 25 years ago or whatever, um,

1283
01:43:25,295 --> 01:43:26,934
look to the gray hairs. And there are a lot

1284
01:43:26,934 --> 01:43:29,434
of gray hairs here, including me, um, we've been around

1285
01:43:29,535 --> 01:43:32,314
a long time. We've seen all these things before. We've

1286
01:43:32,354 --> 01:43:34,634
had a lot of things hyped up to be great.

1287
01:43:34,634 --> 01:43:36,874
You know, we were going to have Texas turnarounds on,

1288
01:43:36,874 --> 01:43:40,154
uh, 67th Avenue at 57th Avenue as well. That didn't

1289
01:43:40,194 --> 01:43:43,594
happen. This monstrosity on the golf course, where's the right

1290
01:43:43,695 --> 01:43:45,514
- hand turn lane that we were promised in all

1291
01:43:45,514 --> 01:43:48,374
the beautiful pictures? That's not happening. We promised a lot

1292
01:43:48,374 --> 01:43:49,594
of other things as well. I don't want to get

1293
01:43:49,594 --> 01:43:52,954
too much into it, but the reality is, we all

1294
01:43:52,994 --> 01:43:55,274
accept that growth happens. But one of the reasons that

1295
01:43:55,314 --> 01:43:57,914
we created this town was to make sure that the

1296
01:43:57,954 --> 01:43:59,914
burdens of others don't fall upon us and that we

1297
01:43:59,914 --> 01:44:02,714
don't change as a community because of the problems and

1298
01:44:02,714 --> 01:44:06,415
the paddling planning problems of other areas. And it's, I

1299
01:44:06,415 --> 01:44:08,775
think it's incumbent upon anyone in elected office to see

1300
01:44:08,815 --> 01:44:11,555
where we came from and decide where we're going. Um,

1301
01:44:11,756 --> 01:44:15,095
and I'm, I was, I didn't want to repeat what

1302
01:44:15,116 --> 01:44:17,395
everyone, the wonderful statistics and everyone put out there, but

1303
01:44:17,395 --> 01:44:18,855
I kept looking up at the logo. And I asked

1304
01:44:18,855 --> 01:44:20,455
you to look at our town logo as well. Cause

1305
01:44:20,455 --> 01:44:22,775
I remember when it was drafted, I remember the different

1306
01:44:22,815 --> 01:44:25,495
decisions. And the one that we chose, we chose a

1307
01:44:25,495 --> 01:44:28,775
logo that didn't represent where we were at the time

1308
01:44:29,116 --> 01:44:31,735
or even our past. We chose the logo and someone

1309
01:44:31,735 --> 01:44:33,575
said, this is what I want Miami Lakes to be

1310
01:44:34,396 --> 01:44:39,641
until I die. And that was Mary Collins. She said,

1311
01:44:39,641 --> 01:44:41,401
this is what we're looking for is to preserve this

1312
01:44:41,822 --> 01:44:45,561
and Oasis in Northwest state county. Now things do change.

1313
01:44:45,561 --> 01:44:50,132
There are things we need to do. But I ask

1314
01:44:50,153 --> 01:44:54,292
that your number one responsibility be to preserve the legacy

1315
01:44:54,332 --> 01:44:56,372
that was handed to you. And you get to, you

1316
01:44:56,412 --> 01:44:58,612
were lucky enough to serve us and we're grateful that

1317
01:44:58,713 --> 01:45:02,292
you serve us. But we elected you to keep the

1318
01:45:02,313 --> 01:45:05,252
other people's problems away and to preserve what we are.

1319
01:45:05,252 --> 01:45:07,452
And I look at that entrance in 67th Avenue. I

1320
01:45:07,452 --> 01:45:09,092
say, my goodness, every time you walk into my legs,

1321
01:45:09,092 --> 01:45:12,052
you go under the dungeon that is the parkway. And

1322
01:45:12,052 --> 01:45:13,652
then you've got the lake on this side, the canal

1323
01:45:13,673 --> 01:45:15,892
on this side. And you see more trees in most

1324
01:45:15,932 --> 01:45:18,932
places. This project eliminates the view of the canal on

1325
01:45:18,932 --> 01:45:21,412
the right eliminates the view of the Cadalon left destroys

1326
01:45:21,433 --> 01:45:23,652
even more trees, puts an extra lights and blocks off

1327
01:45:23,913 --> 01:45:28,372
one of our oldest business operations in Miami Lakes. That's

1328
01:45:28,412 --> 01:45:30,772
not the legacy some of us are looking to preserve.

1329
01:45:30,772 --> 01:45:32,292
And I don't think it's a legacy you want to.

1330
01:45:32,292 --> 01:45:34,212
So when you look back and you're a legacy, when

1331
01:45:34,212 --> 01:45:36,292
you're my age, you say, wow, I really got that

1332
01:45:36,633 --> 01:45:39,412
eight percent traffic better on 57th Avenue. Is that what

1333
01:45:39,412 --> 01:45:40,212
you're going to think about? Are you going to think

1334
01:45:40,212 --> 01:45:42,852
about? I preserved the essence of our community. And that's

1335
01:45:42,852 --> 01:45:44,372
what I'm asking you to think about now. Thank you

1336
01:45:44,372 --> 01:45:44,612
guys.

1337
01:45:58,074 --> 01:46:01,253
Hello, my name is Lourdes Tayyin. I live at 1

1338
01:46:01,293 --> 01:46:05,730
43 11 like child's court, Lake Patricia. Of course my

1339
01:46:05,751 --> 01:46:10,050
area is going to be very, um, impacted by these

1340
01:46:10,311 --> 01:46:14,770
ramps, which I strongly oppose. So I stand with everyone

1341
01:46:14,871 --> 01:46:18,450
here who has given a lot of facts and a

1342
01:46:18,450 --> 01:46:21,410
lot of opinions that are very valid. I'm not going

1343
01:46:21,410 --> 01:46:23,490
to go over that again. I think they've all done

1344
01:46:23,991 --> 01:46:28,370
a wonderful presentation. And I hope that the council is

1345
01:46:28,791 --> 01:46:31,490
listening to us and our concerns. I don't know how

1346
01:46:31,511 --> 01:46:34,130
many of you live in Miami Lakes. And if that's

1347
01:46:34,391 --> 01:46:37,730
a requirement to be a council member. So great. I

1348
01:46:37,730 --> 01:46:42,607
don't know how many of you live east. Of, okay,

1349
01:46:42,647 --> 01:46:45,247
great. So you will know what that's going to do

1350
01:46:45,287 --> 01:46:48,767
to us. So I do oppose it for the very

1351
01:46:49,188 --> 01:46:54,207
many reasons, good reasons that have been expressed here already.

1352
01:46:54,207 --> 01:46:57,787
Uh, I have another reason why I'm here today. And

1353
01:46:57,908 --> 01:47:01,487
I appeared here at the last council meeting. And I

1354
01:47:01,527 --> 01:47:05,967
received a very nice letter from Mr. Hursberg. Thanking me

1355
01:47:05,967 --> 01:47:10,527
for being here. And the topic and the problem that

1356
01:47:10,567 --> 01:47:13,167
I presented to counsel the last time I was here

1357
01:47:13,908 --> 01:47:19,247
is the lack of, um, services in the sense of,

1358
01:47:19,247 --> 01:47:23,567
um, classes for the elderly, for the seniors. I'm a

1359
01:47:23,567 --> 01:47:28,247
senior. And our classes exercise classes have been suspended. Of

1360
01:47:28,247 --> 01:47:32,847
course, those, I understand are funded by the school board.

1361
01:47:32,847 --> 01:47:38,946
And apparently they're not very, uh, reliable. And they have,

1362
01:47:38,946 --> 01:47:43,506
um, not even advised the teachers. Now we were supposed

1363
01:47:43,546 --> 01:47:47,746
to start classes again yesterday. And they don't even know

1364
01:47:47,767 --> 01:47:51,986
why we're not having that classes. So we're all wanting

1365
01:47:52,007 --> 01:47:55,186
to know what's going on with that. And I thank

1366
01:47:55,607 --> 01:47:59,586
the council for giving us one week here. And we

1367
01:47:59,626 --> 01:48:02,606
did the exercise right here. It was very nice. Um,

1368
01:48:02,606 --> 01:48:05,986
but what are your plans to be able to help

1369
01:48:06,007 --> 01:48:10,226
us the seniors, not only the exercise classes, but the

1370
01:48:10,226 --> 01:48:14,766
other classes that are very important to the seniors. And

1371
01:48:15,447 --> 01:48:21,106
the computing, the sowing, there's many classes that apparently the

1372
01:48:21,106 --> 01:48:24,786
seniors are not getting, um, so please look into it.

1373
01:48:24,887 --> 01:48:27,826
Uh, your letter, Mr. Hurstburg says that you were going

1374
01:48:27,826 --> 01:48:31,826
to work diligently towards seeing if there's something that can

1375
01:48:31,866 --> 01:48:37,266
be done funding. So I hope the council finds funding

1376
01:48:37,306 --> 01:48:42,513
for us to seniors who are taxpayers. And I don't

1377
01:48:42,513 --> 01:48:46,978
know about the school board. They forget about us. You

1378
01:48:46,978 --> 01:48:49,845
know, in our taxes, we fund them. So where is

1379
01:48:49,845 --> 01:48:53,448
the funding for the seniors. Very good question. So please

1380
01:48:53,469 --> 01:48:57,585
consider it. And please, I would like to know what

1381
01:48:57,926 --> 01:49:02,008
your thoughts are, what you're planning to do. Well, just

1382
01:49:02,048 --> 01:49:04,088
so you know, we do not go into a back

1383
01:49:04,128 --> 01:49:06,408
and forth during public comments. Of course, we will be

1384
01:49:06,408 --> 01:49:08,728
more than happy to, uh, happy to work with you.

1385
01:49:08,909 --> 01:49:12,148
Jeremy, just to just off top of my head, the

1386
01:49:12,148 --> 01:49:13,928
issue that we had with some of these classes was

1387
01:49:13,949 --> 01:49:15,528
that there was a school board official that had not

1388
01:49:15,549 --> 01:49:18,673
signed off timely on, on these classes. All I know

1389
01:49:18,673 --> 01:49:24,515
is that there was a. Signatory issue. On there. Anyway.

1390
01:49:24,515 --> 01:49:27,357
Okay. Okay. Yeah. So the issue is not even funding.

1391
01:49:27,357 --> 01:49:29,277
The issue is just the school board dragging its feet.

1392
01:49:30,385 --> 01:49:33,964
I know. They're very inconsistent with the services to the

1393
01:49:34,004 --> 01:49:38,124
seniors. So maybe Miami Lakes, the town of Miami Lakes

1394
01:49:38,164 --> 01:49:40,744
can do something for the seniors that live here. And

1395
01:49:40,744 --> 01:49:45,643
I have a lot of my. Friends. And again, I

1396
01:49:45,643 --> 01:49:47,483
was, I was with you guys. We did an exercise

1397
01:49:47,584 --> 01:49:50,523
and I'm telling you the issue is unfortunately the school

1398
01:49:50,523 --> 01:49:53,323
board is probably the worst bureaucracy that exists in my

1399
01:49:53,323 --> 01:49:56,363
opinion. Hopefully with any superintendent, we'll see some changes. You

1400
01:49:56,403 --> 01:49:58,363
got it. But yeah. But from you guys from the

1401
01:49:58,464 --> 01:50:00,763
council, when can we hear whether you can do something

1402
01:50:00,784 --> 01:50:06,283
about it. Through Miami Lakes, not the board? Got it.

1403
01:50:06,384 --> 01:50:08,763
Yeah. Um, but we'll have to address that at another

1404
01:50:08,803 --> 01:50:11,643
time. Uh, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you.

1405
01:50:17,373 --> 01:50:23,310
Speranza Rentals 8465 Mindy Esteres. Last June 29th was my

1406
01:50:24,131 --> 01:50:28,350
57th anniversary of arrival in the United States. On that

1407
01:50:28,350 --> 01:50:32,430
day, some bot long asked for my support against highway

1408
01:50:32,531 --> 01:50:36,970
entry and exit ramps on 67th Avenue. I replied, why

1409
01:50:36,970 --> 01:50:39,470
would I get involved? We can even resolve our own

1410
01:50:39,571 --> 01:50:43,390
special tax and district issues. But Mr. Butler inspired me

1411
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:46,990
to help East Side Property owners. And I have met

1412
01:50:47,011 --> 01:50:54,190
many intelligent dedicated and passionate individuals. Over 30 published articles.

1413
01:50:54,451 --> 01:50:58,990
Countless GMX Serio Hialea and Town of Miami Lakes Public

1414
01:50:59,011 --> 01:51:02,350
Records Request to date. Last night we learned new insight

1415
01:51:02,371 --> 01:51:08,030
from Jose Soberon who explained how ramps are built. Cruise,

1416
01:51:08,030 --> 01:51:14,030
remove rocks, trees, and old buildings from the construction zone.

1417
01:51:14,030 --> 01:51:18,670
Bulldozers and excavators move dirt around to create the correct

1418
01:51:18,851 --> 01:51:23,150
slope. Workers back down layers of crushed stone and gravel

1419
01:51:23,331 --> 01:51:27,710
for a strong road foundation. Bridges and walls go over

1420
01:51:28,051 --> 01:51:33,150
and under another road. Workers build concrete pillars and said

1421
01:51:33,411 --> 01:51:38,590
giant steels on concrete bridges beams in place. Pounding noise

1422
01:51:39,011 --> 01:51:42,750
pollution, a direct conflict with the existing layout of the

1423
01:51:42,851 --> 01:51:47,310
local waterway. In fact, it will require a complete realignment

1424
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:50,510
of the Graham Derrick and Al. Everyone on this council

1425
01:51:50,531 --> 01:51:55,390
has been involved with blasting issues. And what with an

1426
01:51:55,390 --> 01:51:58,670
ongoing legal case, we're willing to create the same trauma

1427
01:51:59,411 --> 01:52:04,030
on eSIT properties. Why would Lester Collins say about tampering

1428
01:52:04,030 --> 01:52:09,902
with leg patricia his first 1962 drawing. What would the

1429
01:52:10,003 --> 01:52:14,382
Graham founders think of our evolution? Over 400 Miami Lakers

1430
01:52:14,422 --> 01:52:18,062
have signed the petition to stop this project on the

1431
01:52:18,062 --> 01:52:23,902
record GMS Chief Operating Officer Claudio Diaferia said that GMX

1432
01:52:24,003 --> 01:52:27,982
will not do something that is against the wishes of

1433
01:52:28,003 --> 01:52:30,382
the council, nor the residents. So hold them to that

1434
01:52:30,422 --> 01:52:34,302
promise. So what is our hope and prayer since you

1435
01:52:34,302 --> 01:52:40,382
don't like hope and change for tonight. Wave section 7.

1436
01:52:40,422 --> 01:52:42,942
2 of the Special Rules of Order, which we frequently

1437
01:52:43,123 --> 01:52:47,422
listen to. Motion second and unanas may lead past a

1438
01:52:47,422 --> 01:52:53,422
resolution against GMXON and Off Ramps project as it has

1439
01:52:53,462 --> 01:52:56,942
not achieved the consent of the Government. Times of the

1440
01:52:56,982 --> 01:53:06,125
Essence. Procurement of Design Building Team is scheduled to be

1441
01:53:06,165 --> 01:53:11,103
completed by FOL 2026. So just say no. If anyone

1442
01:53:11,143 --> 01:53:14,223
is not sure where the community is saying, just answer

1443
01:53:14,324 --> 01:53:23,000
straightforward. What part of no don't you understand? Next speaker,

1444
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:29,960
please. Come on up. I don't. Want this. Good evening

1445
01:53:30,861 --> 01:53:33,800
Mayor Vice Mayor and Council Member. My name is Maria

1446
01:53:33,901 --> 01:53:38,840
Santelices. I live in Lakeland Island 15205 Don't Barton Place.

1447
01:53:39,558 --> 01:53:42,577
I am completely, completely. I'm going to speak as a

1448
01:53:42,577 --> 01:53:49,469
teacher. Completely against the MGEX project. I taught at Miami

1449
01:53:49,650 --> 01:53:52,349
Lakes K3 Center for over 30 years. I am a

1450
01:53:52,450 --> 01:53:55,789
retired teacher from that school. But it's not only the

1451
01:53:55,970 --> 01:54:01,342
Hayalea Miami Lake Sr. School. It is my school. It

1452
01:54:01,403 --> 01:54:04,182
is Legal and Ellen. It is the middle of Miami

1453
01:54:04,203 --> 01:54:07,382
- Lakes Middle. But the other one is also the

1454
01:54:07,403 --> 01:54:11,462
Optimus Park. That that part have the kids at night

1455
01:54:12,043 --> 01:54:15,062
and he's seven and ten o'clock from 10 from nine

1456
01:54:15,062 --> 01:54:19,434
to 10 o'clock at night plane. And lately. I've also

1457
01:54:19,535 --> 01:54:25,756
seen coming from the Shula Gym people running. All over

1458
01:54:25,937 --> 01:54:31,471
and taking 67th Avenue. To do their running exercise, whatever

1459
01:54:31,471 --> 01:54:38,351
it is, to me it is dangerous. Okay. But my

1460
01:54:38,391 --> 01:54:43,791
thing besides completely against this on 67th Street, I think

1461
01:54:43,791 --> 01:54:48,174
you should take time to look at 154th Street. Okay.

1462
01:54:48,515 --> 01:54:54,017
Because it's getting jam - packed. That traffic is horrendous.

1463
01:54:54,758 --> 01:55:01,697
They're building that horrible looking building at Miami. What is

1464
01:55:01,737 --> 01:55:05,780
that called? The golf course. Okay? They have built it

1465
01:55:05,780 --> 01:55:09,780
right at the sidewalk. Anybody can go. Then I was

1466
01:55:09,961 --> 01:55:12,820
counting from there. They have to put a traffic like

1467
01:55:12,841 --> 01:55:17,700
at the entrance. From there, 282nd Montreals wrote. It is

1468
01:55:18,201 --> 01:55:23,431
seven traffic lights. Okay. Something needs to be done on

1469
01:55:23,692 --> 01:55:27,671
154th. I don't recall the exact number, but I think

1470
01:55:27,671 --> 01:55:32,151
we have five more years before opening 154th all the

1471
01:55:32,172 --> 01:55:37,539
way over to 1005. Okay. And then the other stuff

1472
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:44,179
that happened when we were presenting the senior building that

1473
01:55:44,179 --> 01:55:48,469
they were going to supposed to construct back there. They

1474
01:55:48,509 --> 01:55:52,309
kept saying about how much will they will be sold.

1475
01:55:53,142 --> 01:55:55,281
And we were told that it was not being sold.

1476
01:55:55,281 --> 01:55:58,161
That it was be rental. So I imagine all the

1477
01:55:58,262 --> 01:56:02,881
541 apartments that are going to be built are rental.

1478
01:56:02,881 --> 01:56:06,401
And the answer from one of the grand people were

1479
01:56:06,401 --> 01:56:09,706
here to make money. That was their answer. And I

1480
01:56:09,706 --> 01:56:14,271
walked out. And then the other stuff that, um, was

1481
01:56:14,372 --> 01:56:16,511
brought up, and I have it in my little notes

1482
01:56:16,511 --> 01:56:21,871
about the seniors, things that we've been taken away from.

1483
01:56:21,871 --> 01:56:25,391
And I enjoy it. I look forward for social and

1484
01:56:25,431 --> 01:56:29,753
mental. Exercise. So I wish you'd do something, but please

1485
01:56:29,793 --> 01:56:36,920
keep 67 completely off. And start 154th. Thank you. Okay.

1486
01:56:37,101 --> 01:56:46,854
You're welcome. Good evening. My name is Rick

1487
01:56:46,875 --> 01:56:52,191
Comaz. I'm at 6335 Lake Patricia. I too am opposed

1488
01:56:52,191 --> 01:56:57,142
to the 67th Project. Maybe not so much the on

1489
01:56:57,163 --> 01:57:00,902
- ramps, but definitely the off - ramps cannot be

1490
01:57:02,203 --> 01:57:07,302
approved or shouldn't be approved. Um, the other item that

1491
01:57:07,342 --> 01:57:09,382
I would like to talk about, I know this might

1492
01:57:09,422 --> 01:57:11,222
not be the appropriate time, but I want to put

1493
01:57:11,262 --> 01:57:15,702
the seed in your mind is I am really focused

1494
01:57:16,923 --> 01:57:19,542
the remaining of the year and next year on trying

1495
01:57:19,582 --> 01:57:26,022
to modify the rules of having your boat on your

1496
01:57:26,123 --> 01:57:29,708
property for 24 hours. I would like to extend it

1497
01:57:29,748 --> 01:57:34,531
to 36 or 48. There's many reasons why people that

1498
01:57:34,571 --> 01:57:38,258
have campers, people have boats. Uh, we're not allowed to

1499
01:57:38,298 --> 01:57:40,780
keep them on the property. But we should be able

1500
01:57:40,780 --> 01:57:43,900
to keep it a little bit more than 24 hours.

1501
01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:48,442
When 12 of the hours is nighttime. So if you're

1502
01:57:48,442 --> 01:57:50,282
going to work with that, I'd be grateful. Thank you.

1503
01:57:50,863 --> 01:57:57,238
Thank you. Next speaker. All right. Good afternoon guys. Alex

1504
01:57:57,259 --> 01:58:03,957
Degani 6920 bamboo street. May it please the council. Some

1505
01:58:03,957 --> 01:58:07,877
attorney jokes. Okay. Um, I, um, I'm here on behalf

1506
01:58:07,917 --> 01:58:10,037
of a lot of neighbors of mine, people that live

1507
01:58:10,218 --> 01:58:14,177
on bamboo street along the canal and my community. Um,

1508
01:58:14,177 --> 01:58:16,437
I understand and I don't think the person here that's

1509
01:58:16,477 --> 01:58:19,557
against progress. I don't think the person here that loves

1510
01:58:19,578 --> 01:58:22,437
traffic, right? I think traffic is an issue. Obviously everybody

1511
01:58:22,618 --> 01:58:24,037
can see it. It took some time to get here

1512
01:58:24,058 --> 01:58:26,837
for God's sakes, you know? But at the end of

1513
01:58:26,877 --> 01:58:30,117
the day, you know, there, you know, you guys were

1514
01:58:30,157 --> 01:58:34,037
the ones that ultimately decide whether sometimes the juice is

1515
01:58:34,037 --> 01:58:38,037
ultimately worth the squeeze. Right. And I think, and I've

1516
01:58:38,077 --> 01:58:41,377
heard a lot about, you know, reports and, you know,

1517
01:58:41,418 --> 01:58:44,597
citing numbers and percentages like gospel, right? You know, that

1518
01:58:44,637 --> 01:58:47,477
we got a GMX report. We got six million dollars

1519
01:58:47,498 --> 01:58:51,317
from Renee Garcia to get a DOT report. And it's,

1520
01:58:51,317 --> 01:58:53,717
you know, by golly, it's awesome. Right. At the end

1521
01:58:53,717 --> 01:58:57,157
of the day, the numbers that are thrown around and

1522
01:58:57,157 --> 01:58:58,837
sometimes, you know, you got to go ahead and look

1523
01:58:58,837 --> 01:59:01,317
at who drafts these numbers, who are behind somebody that

1524
01:59:01,317 --> 01:59:03,157
is numbers. I think, I think the good colonel here

1525
01:59:03,338 --> 01:59:05,637
a little while ago just specified that GMX was a

1526
01:59:05,637 --> 01:59:08,597
good part of a lot of these reports. And go

1527
01:59:08,597 --> 01:59:12,437
figure they're recommending it a certain way. Right. Shocker, right?

1528
01:59:12,437 --> 01:59:14,517
Um, and my line of business, that's called the conflict

1529
01:59:14,557 --> 01:59:18,157
of interest. So, um, you know, and I remember, I

1530
01:59:18,157 --> 01:59:20,037
think some of you here have experience, I guess in

1531
01:59:20,037 --> 01:59:22,277
the white quarry, you know, issues, you know, back in

1532
01:59:22,277 --> 01:59:24,357
those days. And I remember a lot of those reports

1533
01:59:24,618 --> 01:59:27,717
and nobody mentioned an explosions and damage that cracks the

1534
01:59:27,717 --> 01:59:30,357
houses and all that. Uh, you know, so I mean,

1535
01:59:30,357 --> 01:59:33,557
here we are and it's almost like deja vu. We're

1536
01:59:33,557 --> 01:59:36,837
talking about another project that a lot of people that

1537
01:59:36,877 --> 01:59:40,677
stand to make a lot of money are ultimately recommending

1538
01:59:40,858 --> 01:59:42,517
and saying that nothing's going to happen to those people.

1539
01:59:43,093 --> 01:59:44,992
And then ultimately at the end of the day when

1540
01:59:45,013 --> 01:59:47,712
things ultimately do happen to people, things that are exploding,

1541
01:59:47,893 --> 01:59:51,821
cracks start happening. Insurance is don't cover it. We have

1542
01:59:51,922 --> 01:59:53,901
committees. And then you got a lot more people over

1543
01:59:53,922 --> 01:59:57,821
here making complaints and more Laker columns. At the end

1544
01:59:57,821 --> 01:59:59,181
of the day, we have an opportunity to go ahead

1545
01:59:59,202 --> 02:00:01,101
and see if we can stop it. I frankly am

1546
02:00:01,202 --> 02:00:05,181
concerned about the noise, right? A lot of people, we've

1547
02:00:05,181 --> 02:00:06,541
heard a lot about a lot of things in here,

1548
02:00:06,541 --> 02:00:09,721
but nobody's really talking about the potential noise issue. The

1549
02:00:09,721 --> 02:00:11,901
noise pollution and the quality of life of some of

1550
02:00:11,901 --> 02:00:15,501
these people who live along this roadway, right? At the

1551
02:00:15,501 --> 02:00:16,981
end of the day, I mean, I don't know if

1552
02:00:16,981 --> 02:00:19,181
you guys know this, but construction workers don't typically work

1553
02:00:19,202 --> 02:00:22,638
during the day. It's too damn hot. They work at

1554
02:00:22,638 --> 02:00:31,898
night. We all sleep at night. That is what a

1555
02:00:31,898 --> 02:00:34,138
lot of us are going to be hearing. Not for

1556
02:00:34,178 --> 02:00:37,018
one month, not for two months, but for quite a

1557
02:00:37,018 --> 02:00:39,658
while, I'm actually know a couple of people in here.

1558
02:00:39,658 --> 02:00:41,338
One of them has a three month old, four month

1559
02:00:41,338 --> 02:00:42,938
old. These are kids. Some of these people couldn't be

1560
02:00:42,938 --> 02:00:45,978
here because they're taking care of their little kids. They

1561
02:00:45,978 --> 02:00:48,218
have a hard enough time keeping those kids asleep at

1562
02:00:48,258 --> 02:00:53,278
night, let alone with. All right. So that's an issue.

1563
02:00:55,641 --> 02:00:59,620
Fascination, that's an obvious concern. I understand progress, but I

1564
02:00:59,620 --> 02:01:03,540
don't know how much of 154th is going to get

1565
02:01:03,580 --> 02:01:08,180
alleviated by this monstrosity. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't.

1566
02:01:08,180 --> 02:01:10,980
But at the end of the day, I personally think

1567
02:01:10,980 --> 02:01:14,980
you might be just because alleviating eight percent there to

1568
02:01:14,980 --> 02:01:17,440
increase traffic on 67 by quite a bit, you know?

1569
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:26,686
Thank you. Mr. Coot. Welcome back, Mr. Coop. Mr. Mayor,

1570
02:01:26,686 --> 02:01:31,144
Mr. Vice Mayor, council members, Mr. Town Manager. Madam Clerk.

1571
02:01:32,449 --> 02:01:35,913
Mr. Town attorney, and our law enforcement. Good evening. My

1572
02:01:35,953 --> 02:01:39,153
name is Michael Coot. I live in Miami Lakes. My

1573
02:01:39,153 --> 02:01:42,718
address is protected by 119. Let me say to some

1574
02:01:42,718 --> 02:01:47,610
degree. I understand the argument in favor of the project.

1575
02:01:47,610 --> 02:01:52,170
Insofar as a proposed interchange may relieve congestion at some

1576
02:01:52,210 --> 02:01:57,530
locations, including traffic approaching the existing, Gratini and Palmetto connections.

1577
02:01:59,001 --> 02:02:01,125
Having said that. The point I would like to make

1578
02:02:01,306 --> 02:02:04,813
is a simple one. What is good for the regional

1579
02:02:04,853 --> 02:02:08,247
traffic network. Is not necessarily good for the people who

1580
02:02:08,348 --> 02:02:18,182
live in Miami leaks. I reviewed the GMX Traffic Presentation

1581
02:02:18,683 --> 02:02:22,143
and one number really caught my attention. GMX own study

1582
02:02:22,164 --> 02:02:26,863
project that the proposed interchange will put an additional 1,

1583
02:02:26,863 --> 02:02:31,023
000 to 2, 500 vehicles per day on to 67th

1584
02:02:31,063 --> 02:02:35,412
Avenue. An increase of three to eight percent. And this

1585
02:02:35,513 --> 02:02:39,549
isn't just a theoretical concern by GMX's own account. It's

1586
02:02:39,650 --> 02:02:43,469
a traffic analysis that shows that conditions a key intersections

1587
02:02:43,509 --> 02:02:48,109
within Miami Lakes at 154th Miami Lakes Drive and Northwest

1588
02:02:48,130 --> 02:02:54,239
67th. We'll actually worsen with the interchange. So while this

1589
02:02:54,279 --> 02:02:57,439
project may improve traffic in some places, it will make

1590
02:02:57,460 --> 02:03:00,399
traffic conditions worst here on the east side of Miami

1591
02:03:00,580 --> 02:03:05,119
Lakes. Those cars don't disappear when they leave the expressway.

1592
02:03:05,119 --> 02:03:08,592
They enter our town. They enter a road network that

1593
02:03:08,613 --> 02:03:12,272
was designed for a relatively low density community and they

1594
02:03:12,312 --> 02:03:16,032
will have to go somewhere onto 67th Avenue, past the

1595
02:03:16,032 --> 02:03:20,592
Miami Lakes K through eighth school onto Miami Lakeway South.

1596
02:03:20,592 --> 02:03:23,792
Miami Lake Strive and other roads that are residents use

1597
02:03:23,813 --> 02:03:26,356
every day. And that's where I think we need to

1598
02:03:26,377 --> 02:03:30,116
think beyond the immediate benefit of relieving congestion somewhere else.

1599
02:03:30,767 --> 02:03:34,586
Are we relieving congestion or we simply moving regional traffic

1600
02:03:34,767 --> 02:03:38,055
into my Abbey Lakes. There's another issue, I think, that

1601
02:03:38,076 --> 02:03:43,575
deserves a very serious answer. GMX is using 2025 traffic

1602
02:03:43,615 --> 02:03:48,295
conditions as its existing baseline projecting conditions out to 2050.

1603
02:03:51,108 --> 02:03:57,408
The presentation anticipates substantial growth, including 21 percent population. But

1604
02:03:57,429 --> 02:04:01,488
Miami Lakes is already experienced significant residential and commercial construction.

1605
02:04:01,739 --> 02:04:06,758
We have 541 residential units approved on the West 278

1606
02:04:07,099 --> 02:04:11,969
residential units with commercial development on this side. We're all

1607
02:04:11,969 --> 02:04:16,129
of those already approved and underway developments incorporated into the

1608
02:04:16,150 --> 02:04:19,569
traffic projections. Or are we looking at even greater numbers.

1609
02:04:20,995 --> 02:04:23,134
So because if we're going to make a decision about

1610
02:04:23,235 --> 02:04:27,134
transportation infrastructure that affects us a community, I think we

1611
02:04:27,134 --> 02:04:30,734
need to, one last point, and that is we need

1612
02:04:30,734 --> 02:04:34,852
to consider induced demand. When you make access to an

1613
02:04:34,873 --> 02:04:38,532
expressway easier, you don't necessarily just redistribute the traffic that

1614
02:04:38,713 --> 02:04:42,692
already exists. You create new travel patterns and attract additional

1615
02:04:42,732 --> 02:04:45,812
traffic onto roads that feed into the interchange. Thank you,

1616
02:04:45,852 --> 02:04:47,492
Mike. I'm sorry. But I do want to cut you

1617
02:04:47,492 --> 02:04:55,367
off there. Thank you. Anyone else in chain? Is there

1618
02:04:55,367 --> 02:04:57,607
anyone else in chambers wishing to speak? Welcome. Thank you.

1619
02:04:58,355 --> 02:05:02,616
Good evening. Mayor, vice mayor council. My name is Gonzalo

1620
02:05:02,637 --> 02:05:05,576
Guna. I live on one four 111 Lake Serenack Avenue.

1621
02:05:06,810 --> 02:05:09,109
And I like to thank some of you because you

1622
02:05:09,130 --> 02:05:11,444
replied to my email and I appreciate that. Appreciate your

1623
02:05:11,484 --> 02:05:14,804
time and support. I moved into my Emile Lakes about

1624
02:05:15,145 --> 02:05:18,413
30 plus years because this is a town. Not a

1625
02:05:18,413 --> 02:05:22,129
city. And it's a beautiful town with a lot of

1626
02:05:22,290 --> 02:05:26,999
parks, a lot of bike waves. If you know where

1627
02:05:27,039 --> 02:05:31,465
Lake Serenac is, I'm right by 67. And actually traffic

1628
02:05:31,726 --> 02:05:35,705
as it stands, take my road to miss the school.

1629
02:05:36,771 --> 02:05:39,390
And miss the traffic. So I can only imagine with

1630
02:05:39,390 --> 02:05:43,009
this project we'll do. My kids live here now, my

1631
02:05:43,009 --> 02:05:45,941
grandkids live here. We go to the park. I have

1632
02:05:46,042 --> 02:05:54,717
two parks straight. I bike. My kid's bike. I'm not

1633
02:05:54,757 --> 02:05:57,298
sure this project is going to benefit that. And so

1634
02:05:58,119 --> 02:06:01,618
I diddle wet a lot of my residents or should

1635
02:06:01,618 --> 02:06:06,234
I save my neighbors, residents, community. But I please, I

1636
02:06:06,234 --> 02:06:10,238
plead you to hear us. Um, been involved in other

1637
02:06:10,278 --> 02:06:13,478
presentations with a gram and it's never been positive. So

1638
02:06:13,478 --> 02:06:16,017
I hope this is not a done deal. And we

1639
02:06:16,038 --> 02:06:20,549
voiced because we live here. And I actually commute an

1640
02:06:20,549 --> 02:06:22,949
hour and 15 minutes every day because I work downtown.

1641
02:06:23,769 --> 02:06:25,268
And the reason why I do it is because I

1642
02:06:25,268 --> 02:06:27,645
come back home to my town. And I don't have

1643
02:06:27,645 --> 02:06:31,636
to worry about traffic here. I thank you. And please

1644
02:06:31,676 --> 02:06:36,693
hear us. Thank you very much. Are there any other

1645
02:06:36,794 --> 02:06:42,032
speakers in chambers. Seeing none, Madam Clerk? Is there anyone

1646
02:06:42,133 --> 02:06:46,272
online that wishes to speak? Yes, we have several participants

1647
02:06:46,453 --> 02:06:48,832
and I'm going to be calling their name as I

1648
02:06:48,853 --> 02:06:53,072
see them in my screen. The first one is Miss

1649
02:06:53,072 --> 02:06:56,752
Amy. No last name. And I see your hand is

1650
02:06:56,752 --> 02:07:01,214
raised. Good evening. Amy. Aye. Can you hear me? Yes,

1651
02:07:01,214 --> 02:07:05,774
we do. Go ahead. I'm Amy Lipsa Morales. I live

1652
02:07:05,774 --> 02:07:10,814
at 6944 bottle brush drive. Uh, good evening everybody. I'm

1653
02:07:10,814 --> 02:07:13,614
speaking tonight as a parent and I honestly cannot understand

1654
02:07:13,875 --> 02:07:16,894
how we are even considering taking one of our towns

1655
02:07:17,315 --> 02:07:21,294
traffic problems and deliberately redirecting it into a residential community

1656
02:07:21,635 --> 02:07:26,254
and practically into a K8 school zone. The proposed Gratiny

1657
02:07:26,355 --> 02:07:28,894
ramp would put cars and trucks coming off an expressway

1658
02:07:28,915 --> 02:07:31,774
within about a block of a 15 mile per hour

1659
02:07:32,035 --> 02:07:35,294
school zone. So think about that. Drivers would come off

1660
02:07:35,395 --> 02:07:38,654
and expressway and almost immediately be expected to recognize that

1661
02:07:38,835 --> 02:07:41,774
they are entering a school zone and slow from 40

1662
02:07:41,814 --> 02:07:45,134
miles per hour to 15 in an area where children

1663
02:07:45,315 --> 02:07:48,414
are crossing 67th Avenue. There's a bus stop directly across

1664
02:07:48,435 --> 02:07:52,414
from the school and pedestrian. Sorry, I got so nervous.

1665
02:07:52,414 --> 02:07:56,334
Traffic is extremely high during arrival and dismissal. What are

1666
02:07:56,374 --> 02:07:59,534
the odds that every driver unfamiliar with the area realizes

1667
02:07:59,574 --> 02:08:02,014
where they are and slows from 40 to 15 in

1668
02:08:02,035 --> 02:08:06,014
time? Why would we intentionally create that risk? And that

1669
02:08:06,035 --> 02:08:09,934
concern is in hypothetical. Research using insurance institute for highway

1670
02:08:09,955 --> 02:08:14,734
safety analysis of federal fatality data has identified pedestrian and

1671
02:08:14,774 --> 02:08:19,134
bicycle fatalities occurring in the vicinity of highway entrance and

1672
02:08:19,174 --> 02:08:25,237
exit ramps. Research also shows pedestrian fatalities are heavily concentrated

1673
02:08:25,258 --> 02:08:28,757
on major arterial roads. So why would we introduce an

1674
02:08:28,778 --> 02:08:32,037
expressway ramp practically at the edge of an active K8

1675
02:08:32,138 --> 02:08:37,300
school zone. But here's what should concern every resident. We

1676
02:08:37,521 --> 02:08:40,860
haven't even experienced the traffic we're planning around yet. The

1677
02:08:40,881 --> 02:08:43,740
shuler's golf course development is in finished hundreds of additional

1678
02:08:43,921 --> 02:08:47,180
residential units are still coming online and the Palmetto exit

1679
02:08:47,220 --> 02:08:50,300
is already a mess. We know that situation is only

1680
02:08:50,340 --> 02:08:53,820
going to become worse once that development is fully occupied.

1681
02:08:53,820 --> 02:08:56,700
But the congestion of the palm metal is concentrated at

1682
02:08:56,801 --> 02:09:01,260
a major expressway interchange away from residential neighborhoods and away

1683
02:09:01,300 --> 02:09:04,780
from the school zone. Trying to alleviate that congestion by

1684
02:09:04,881 --> 02:09:08,060
dumping it into a residential area is not a solution.

1685
02:09:08,060 --> 02:09:11,660
It is unfair and it is irresponsible. These ramps would

1686
02:09:11,700 --> 02:09:14,620
create an obvious alternative route for that additional traffic through

1687
02:09:14,641 --> 02:09:19,420
Miami Lakeway South directly past Miami Lakes K8 and onto

1688
02:09:19,521 --> 02:09:22,940
67th Avenue toward the proposed ramps. We would literally be

1689
02:09:22,980 --> 02:09:25,820
creating the cut through ourselves. So think about what we

1690
02:09:25,860 --> 02:09:30,220
would be concentrating in this small area. Existing commuter traffic

1691
02:09:30,881 --> 02:09:33,580
freight traffic cars coming on and off the Gratiny hundreds

1692
02:09:33,580 --> 02:09:37,020
of additional residential units feeding traffic into the area school

1693
02:09:37,060 --> 02:09:42,380
traffic buses pedestrians. And most importantly children crossing the street.

1694
02:09:42,380 --> 02:09:46,380
So before we even contemplate something this traffic, what happened

1695
02:09:46,420 --> 02:09:49,020
to the traffic improvements that were already supposed to mitigate

1696
02:09:49,121 --> 02:09:52,140
the shuler development? What is the status of the two

1697
02:09:52,140 --> 02:09:54,780
additional right - turn lanes that were reportedly funded through

1698
02:09:55,201 --> 02:09:58,300
escrow? When are those being built and will a signal

1699
02:09:58,300 --> 02:10:01,260
be reconfigured so vehicles going straight or turning left don't

1700
02:10:01,260 --> 02:10:04,380
prevent writing traffic from reaching those two lanes and continuing

1701
02:10:04,641 --> 02:10:08,140
backing traffic toward the Palmetto? Why aren't we implementing these

1702
02:10:08,241 --> 02:10:12,220
improvements fixing the existing traffic flow and evaluating their effectiveness

1703
02:10:12,641 --> 02:10:16,860
before even entertaining an entirely new interchange into a residential

1704
02:10:17,041 --> 02:10:20,620
in school area? This is not about moving cars. This

1705
02:10:20,620 --> 02:10:23,900
is about more traffic. More freight trucks, more noise, more

1706
02:10:24,081 --> 02:10:29,932
exhaust, more cutthroat traffic, pedestrian safety. Thank you. I'm sorry.

1707
02:10:30,113 --> 02:10:32,172
That was an additional second. I just want you to

1708
02:10:32,172 --> 02:10:37,748
know that. No worries. Yeah. Um, I do want to

1709
02:10:37,788 --> 02:10:39,908
ask all the members of the audience is not to

1710
02:10:39,929 --> 02:10:41,988
clap while they're speaking because it makes it very hard

1711
02:10:42,028 --> 02:10:44,288
for us to be able to hear their input. Um,

1712
02:10:44,288 --> 02:10:48,148
so keep your, your applause for after they speak, that

1713
02:10:48,148 --> 02:10:51,028
helps us out. Uh, with that, my next speaker. I

1714
02:10:51,049 --> 02:10:53,748
will call the next speaker and IT. I will ask

1715
02:10:53,748 --> 02:10:58,628
you to please time so that participant online can see

1716
02:10:58,668 --> 02:11:03,767
it as well. Please use the timer. Mr. Frank Pellegrino.

1717
02:11:05,928 --> 02:11:07,907
Hi, hi. Can you hear me? Good evening. We hear

1718
02:11:07,947 --> 02:11:12,083
you, sir. Awesome. Uh, thank you for the time. Frank

1719
02:11:12,083 --> 02:11:18,243
Pellegrino14851ubis Road Miami's Florida 33014. Um, I just want to

1720
02:11:18,243 --> 02:11:21,443
say acknowledging all the concerns raised here today. I still

1721
02:11:21,483 --> 02:11:24,483
find it important to think about the average Miami Lakes

1722
02:11:24,523 --> 02:11:28,643
Communer. For example, every evening my commute home requires me

1723
02:11:28,643 --> 02:11:32,083
to decide whether I'll take the exit Off I -

1724
02:11:32,083 --> 02:11:36,083
75 via a 26 Northamp into Miami Lakes. We're continuing

1725
02:11:36,083 --> 02:11:40,563
on the Gratiny to exit 57th. An additional exit off

1726
02:11:40,603 --> 02:11:44,643
the Gratiny at 67th, the proposed project would be, would

1727
02:11:44,643 --> 02:11:47,123
save an invaluable amount of time each day. That would

1728
02:11:47,123 --> 02:11:49,043
allow me to return home to my wife and soon

1729
02:11:49,043 --> 02:11:54,807
to be newborn baby. Um, all that being said, honestly,

1730
02:11:54,807 --> 02:11:56,967
I would rather have to park my car on I

1731
02:11:57,007 --> 02:11:59,527
- 75 and Miami Gardens Drive, be given a broken

1732
02:11:59,708 --> 02:12:02,947
Pogo stick and forced to Pogo myself all the way

1733
02:12:02,947 --> 02:12:05,447
home to Lake Catherine rather than see this project to

1734
02:12:05,447 --> 02:12:10,403
prove. I say all that to demonstrate given the Spectrum

1735
02:12:10,403 --> 02:12:13,603
of concerns raised here tonight with Public Safety on the

1736
02:12:13,603 --> 02:12:16,704
most significant end, good business sense in the middle. And

1737
02:12:16,704 --> 02:12:21,222
commuter, convenience on the least significant end. There aren't really

1738
02:12:21,243 --> 02:12:24,322
any tangible benefits to be gained from this project. And

1739
02:12:24,322 --> 02:12:27,302
I don't think it takes a structural engineer to say

1740
02:12:27,302 --> 02:12:31,935
that. Um. My, my family's been a part of this

1741
02:12:31,935 --> 02:12:34,415
community for the last 57 years. And I know all

1742
02:12:34,455 --> 02:12:37,395
it takes to see. The lack of benefits from this

1743
02:12:37,395 --> 02:12:40,899
project are well - intentioned. Miami likes residents. That's see

1744
02:12:40,899 --> 02:12:43,719
this community for what it is, their family and their

1745
02:12:43,759 --> 02:12:46,999
home. So I respectfully requests that you give this project

1746
02:12:48,060 --> 02:12:52,659
a seriousness. It deserves. Um, and not approve it. Thank

1747
02:12:52,699 --> 02:12:59,637
you. Thank you. Madam Clerk, any of the speakers? The

1748
02:12:59,978 --> 02:13:02,677
next speaker. I don't say a name, but it's a

1749
02:13:02,778 --> 02:13:10,562
telephone number 786. 602. And it ends at 47. I

1750
02:13:10,583 --> 02:13:14,422
see the hand race. So I assume you want to

1751
02:13:14,422 --> 02:13:19,907
speak. Again, it's a telephone number

1752
02:13:21,128 --> 02:13:30,547
78660. And it ends in 47. The hand is raised,

1753
02:13:30,547 --> 02:13:33,267
which means that you would like to participate in Public

1754
02:13:33,307 --> 02:13:41,623
comments. Just unmute yourself. Okay. Moving on. The next speaker

1755
02:13:42,044 --> 02:13:48,646
is Mr. Oscar. R. Corvera. If you want to speak,

1756
02:13:48,646 --> 02:13:51,966
please just unmute yourself and welcome to the meeting. If

1757
02:13:52,107 --> 02:13:55,206
not, I will continue down the list of names that

1758
02:13:55,246 --> 02:14:03,540
I see of participants. Yeah. We're just here for that.

1759
02:14:04,110 --> 02:14:10,525
No question. We hear you very. You're very muffled. Yeah.

1760
02:14:11,799 --> 02:14:15,362
It's not very clear. Mr. Corvera, do you want to

1761
02:14:15,362 --> 02:14:21,690
participate in public comments. I'm not sure if you can

1762
02:14:21,690 --> 02:14:26,501
hear me a little clearer. No, no. We hear you,

1763
02:14:26,501 --> 02:14:29,440
but thank you. We're moving on with the list. Mr.

1764
02:14:29,941 --> 02:14:39,195
Ben Pierce. Next Speaker, Mr. Adonis

1765
02:14:39,536 --> 02:14:44,371
Sardinias. I'm just making sure that I don't leave anyone

1766
02:14:44,392 --> 02:14:47,811
out. I'm calling everyone by the name that I see

1767
02:14:47,851 --> 02:14:51,737
on the screen. Uh, no, I'm good. Okay. Thank you,

1768
02:14:51,737 --> 02:15:01,685
sir. Mr. Keith Henning. Okay. Again,

1769
02:15:01,725 --> 02:15:05,125
if you are in remote public comments and you want

1770
02:15:05,125 --> 02:15:08,245
to participate, it is the time now to unmute yourself.

1771
02:15:08,245 --> 02:15:10,565
I have called everyone. I just don't want to leave

1772
02:15:10,746 --> 02:15:14,005
anyone out. So I just want to make sure if

1773
02:15:14,005 --> 02:15:16,405
you want to participate, just unmute yourself and welcome to

1774
02:15:16,426 --> 02:15:24,481
the meeting. Okay. Mayor. I don't think anyone else participating

1775
02:15:24,521 --> 02:15:28,321
online, but I do have a long list of emails

1776
02:15:28,582 --> 02:15:30,801
that were sent that I need to read into the

1777
02:15:30,841 --> 02:15:34,187
record as I always do. We only read the names

1778
02:15:34,528 --> 02:15:37,627
and the subject matter. So I'm going to start with

1779
02:15:38,448 --> 02:15:44,693
Jennifer Rodero. In Opposition to the proposed Offramp. State Route

1780
02:15:44,714 --> 02:15:50,312
924 Gratny Parkway interchange. And again, let the record reflect

1781
02:15:50,413 --> 02:15:53,672
that all these emails that I'm reading the name and

1782
02:15:53,672 --> 02:15:58,299
the subject matter. We're shared with the town council. Mr.

1783
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:06,523
Frank Murphy. In opposition to the Gratiny 67th Avenue. Mr.

1784
02:16:06,704 --> 02:16:12,683
Franke Murphy and Josefina Murphy. Two different emails. Mesayana Colombo

1785
02:16:13,904 --> 02:16:22,362
in opposition to GMX project. Ms. Ileana Hamilton. In opposition

1786
02:16:22,402 --> 02:16:28,513
to the proposed exit. Ramps onto 67th Avenue. Madam Clerk.

1787
02:16:28,553 --> 02:16:32,273
Yes. I apologize. But because there are those that spoke

1788
02:16:32,374 --> 02:16:34,753
that are being repeated in those names and we really

1789
02:16:34,934 --> 02:16:36,953
got to get moving with this meeting. I'm going to

1790
02:16:36,953 --> 02:16:40,113
ask that we dispense with the reading of the names.

1791
02:16:40,113 --> 02:16:42,193
And I don't know if perhaps, uh, you know, we'll

1792
02:16:42,233 --> 02:16:44,273
get started in the discussion. And at some point you

1793
02:16:44,313 --> 02:16:47,633
can just tally the number four and the number against.

1794
02:16:47,633 --> 02:16:50,273
That'll make it easier. That'll just, you know, uh, you

1795
02:16:50,273 --> 02:16:52,433
know, for, for our purposes, obviously this is a public

1796
02:16:52,473 --> 02:16:56,593
record, you know, so anyone that wants to see where

1797
02:16:56,593 --> 02:16:58,913
the emails broke down and more detail can request that.

1798
02:16:58,913 --> 02:17:01,213
But otherwise we're going to spend another half hour, you

1799
02:17:01,213 --> 02:17:04,812
know, just, well, I can state from memory. That all

1800
02:17:04,812 --> 02:17:09,292
of them were in opposition with the exception from Mr.

1801
02:17:09,713 --> 02:17:13,532
Louis O'Martinez from the Grams Company. He's in support of

1802
02:17:13,572 --> 02:17:22,563
the project. And. Excuse me. And, um, former Vice Mayor

1803
02:17:22,584 --> 02:17:28,083
Jeffrey Rodriguez. He specifically stated that he's in favor in

1804
02:17:28,083 --> 02:17:32,843
support of Mayor Diegas item 16a. And as well, I

1805
02:17:32,843 --> 02:17:37,368
need to read this into the record. He is in

1806
02:17:37,368 --> 02:17:40,648
support of the item that just got approved earlier tonight.

1807
02:17:40,648 --> 02:17:45,928
The Jakey Dookie Memorial Statue as well. We received an

1808
02:17:45,928 --> 02:17:52,845
email from Mr. Albert Aguiar. Again, questioning questions about the

1809
02:17:53,026 --> 02:18:02,238
police budget. Mr. Sorry. Mr.

1810
02:18:02,739 --> 02:18:08,958
Bryan Patchen in support of the Jackie Dookie Memorial item.

1811
02:18:09,637 --> 02:18:17,136
Miss Eli Simon. Also in support of Jake Duke Park.

1812
02:18:18,514 --> 02:18:21,213
And again, what I always do, I include the names

1813
02:18:21,474 --> 02:18:25,431
of all these individuals in the minutes. What I can

1814
02:18:25,431 --> 02:18:28,071
do for this time, if it is your wish of

1815
02:18:28,172 --> 02:18:31,731
the council, I can include the names, but I can

1816
02:18:31,731 --> 02:18:35,303
also include the emails. They can be part of the

1817
02:18:35,564 --> 02:18:38,737
minutes. I don't mind at all. Maybe that's more fair

1818
02:18:38,758 --> 02:18:41,617
so that people see it. The councilman Herzberg. Um, I

1819
02:18:41,617 --> 02:18:44,017
think it's a good idea. First, we all got the

1820
02:18:44,057 --> 02:18:47,457
emails. I agree with your recollection, the vast majority were

1821
02:18:47,638 --> 02:18:49,777
in opposition. So I think you should just add the

1822
02:18:49,817 --> 02:18:53,057
emails to the minutes. That's a Public Record anyway. And

1823
02:18:53,057 --> 02:18:55,377
then it will be clear on the record, uh, who

1824
02:18:55,417 --> 02:18:59,902
opposed or didn't. Very well. I will do that in

1825
02:19:00,003 --> 02:19:04,322
the minutes from this meeting. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Thank

1826
02:19:04,362 --> 02:19:08,962
you. All right. So we're now done with Public Compton.

1827
02:19:08,962 --> 02:19:11,842
Unfortunately, I see a big chunk of the crowd has

1828
02:19:11,882 --> 02:19:13,842
dispersed, which I think is unfortunate because part of our

1829
02:19:13,863 --> 02:19:18,242
job here is to not only debate these things among

1830
02:19:18,242 --> 02:19:22,162
ourselves, but also to provide an education function as well.

1831
02:19:23,494 --> 02:19:25,833
So, but before I continue with that, I want to

1832
02:19:25,974 --> 02:19:28,193
first thank the Soberons for inviting me to their home

1833
02:19:28,233 --> 02:19:31,073
yesterday and to meet with the residents and for taking

1834
02:19:31,073 --> 02:19:34,033
the time to educate me some more about the construction

1835
02:19:34,294 --> 02:19:36,753
side of the project, which has prompted me to ask

1836
02:19:37,254 --> 02:19:39,313
some more questions about that. We do have a representative

1837
02:19:39,334 --> 02:19:42,513
of GMX here that at some point, I hope would

1838
02:19:42,513 --> 02:19:43,953
address some of those concerns and some of the other

1839
02:19:43,993 --> 02:19:46,593
concerns that he's heard. But before I get there, I

1840
02:19:46,633 --> 02:19:48,513
need to introduce my item to get us in the

1841
02:19:48,513 --> 02:19:52,377
proper posture for discussion. And before I begin, I want

1842
02:19:52,377 --> 02:19:55,497
to also start up by reminding everyone that I am

1843
02:19:55,678 --> 02:19:59,417
also a lifelong Miami Laker. I have been here with

1844
02:19:59,438 --> 02:20:03,337
my family since 1989. My office is here. My family

1845
02:20:03,598 --> 02:20:06,857
continues to live here. My kids, my kids, not yet.

1846
02:20:06,857 --> 02:20:10,137
But my, my nephews and my niece play in our

1847
02:20:10,137 --> 02:20:13,737
parks. Those are my priorities. And to preserve that small

1848
02:20:13,758 --> 02:20:17,177
town feel that I grew up with, right? Going again,

1849
02:20:17,177 --> 02:20:20,297
I've brought up before, but I'll reiterate it again. I

1850
02:20:20,398 --> 02:20:22,857
still remember having the arts and craft show there on

1851
02:20:22,897 --> 02:20:24,777
Main Street by my pop guns in the sand art

1852
02:20:24,798 --> 02:20:27,017
and everything with my family. As my mom would buy

1853
02:20:27,057 --> 02:20:30,377
orchids. Those were the special core memories for me that

1854
02:20:30,398 --> 02:20:33,177
I remember growing up here. I remember looking at my

1855
02:20:33,198 --> 02:20:38,137
window. I grew up at 7220 Point Sienna Corps. Right.

1856
02:20:38,137 --> 02:20:40,937
And I was there until I was 30 years or

1857
02:20:40,958 --> 02:20:43,257
so old when I could afford my own place. Cause

1858
02:20:43,257 --> 02:20:45,577
obviously it's not cheap to buy here Miami Lakes. Right.

1859
02:20:45,678 --> 02:20:49,497
So growing up there, I also saw much of the

1860
02:20:49,598 --> 02:20:52,217
wildlife, right? At night you see the possums during the

1861
02:20:52,217 --> 02:20:54,337
day. You can see the mockingbirds of blue jays. I

1862
02:20:54,337 --> 02:20:57,497
even saw Baltimore Orioles, at least one outside my window

1863
02:20:57,598 --> 02:21:01,474
growing up there in my corner room. I have a

1864
02:21:01,495 --> 02:21:04,834
deep loving abide. Don't you give me that smile? I

1865
02:21:04,874 --> 02:21:08,354
have a deep loving abide for this community. The idea

1866
02:21:08,375 --> 02:21:11,714
that any one of us would want to do something

1867
02:21:11,735 --> 02:21:14,874
that is going to take away from that. I think

1868
02:21:15,175 --> 02:21:17,234
just, uh, you know, I understand that there are many

1869
02:21:17,274 --> 02:21:19,634
people who are frustrated, but I need to dissuade you

1870
02:21:19,815 --> 02:21:24,274
from believing that way. Right. We're here. And you know,

1871
02:21:24,274 --> 02:21:25,874
obviously many people are not going to put themselves up

1872
02:21:25,914 --> 02:21:28,834
here in the day is to, you know, be pylorid,

1873
02:21:28,834 --> 02:21:30,434
you know, just because they enjoy it. They're doing it

1874
02:21:30,455 --> 02:21:34,994
because they care. And the truth is that I want

1875
02:21:35,034 --> 02:21:37,554
to clear up something about development in this town that

1876
02:21:37,815 --> 02:21:40,434
unfortunately many people don't understand because many of the laws

1877
02:21:40,474 --> 02:21:44,274
are actually written Tallahassee far away from public view, right?

1878
02:21:44,295 --> 02:21:46,514
Here you can come to town hall. You can see

1879
02:21:46,554 --> 02:21:49,874
us. You can talk to us. But with Tallahassee, you

1880
02:21:49,874 --> 02:21:51,634
know, who's going to drive up there in most cases,

1881
02:21:51,634 --> 02:21:54,135
right? But here's the reality. In the state of Florida

1882
02:21:55,276 --> 02:21:57,815
and in terms of the recent projects that you've seen,

1883
02:21:57,836 --> 02:22:01,415
there is a trend to benefit the developers, unfortunately. Right.

1884
02:22:02,029 --> 02:22:05,288
The most recent law is live local. Whichever year they

1885
02:22:05,328 --> 02:22:08,568
continue to tighten. And the gist of that law is

1886
02:22:08,909 --> 02:22:12,248
in essence to allow developers, if they meet certain requirements,

1887
02:22:12,269 --> 02:22:15,688
do bypass local Governing Boards like us to be able

1888
02:22:15,688 --> 02:22:18,648
to develop these projects. And these are not low -

1889
02:22:18,648 --> 02:22:21,288
income projects, right? These aren't Section 8 projects. And they're

1890
02:22:21,549 --> 02:22:23,988
not, and in some cases, there were force housing, but

1891
02:22:24,109 --> 02:22:27,128
in other cases, it's just, uh, whenever a project has

1892
02:22:27,469 --> 02:22:31,288
rents that reach a certain percentage of what's called area,

1893
02:22:31,288 --> 02:22:34,888
medium income, right? So it's not low income. I just

1894
02:22:35,069 --> 02:22:37,928
want to, you know, reiterate that. And you'd be surprised

1895
02:22:38,189 --> 02:22:41,268
how many of the grand properties actually, even with the

1896
02:22:41,469 --> 02:22:43,688
rents that they charged now, as high as they are,

1897
02:22:43,688 --> 02:22:45,848
you know, a mortgage payment in many cases, not more

1898
02:22:45,848 --> 02:22:49,752
than a mortgage payment, actually qualify for that standard. And

1899
02:22:49,792 --> 02:22:51,832
again, as long as they meet that standard, they can

1900
02:22:51,872 --> 02:22:55,752
bypass public approvals. They don't have to sit here and

1901
02:22:55,773 --> 02:22:58,532
hear what you have to say about the project. And

1902
02:22:58,532 --> 02:23:01,272
they also are entitled to all sorts of tax benefits

1903
02:23:01,272 --> 02:23:03,072
in the process that can range, I think it's from

1904
02:23:03,293 --> 02:23:07,112
25 percent all the way to 75 percent for their

1905
02:23:07,152 --> 02:23:11,032
projects for a period of 30 years or so. And,

1906
02:23:11,032 --> 02:23:13,112
you know, that's an example of just how bad things

1907
02:23:13,152 --> 02:23:16,072
are getting in Tallahassee. The word is preemption. They are

1908
02:23:16,112 --> 02:23:20,232
literally preempting us from being able to control local development.

1909
02:23:20,232 --> 02:23:22,872
And it's getting, unfortunately, worse a year after year. That's

1910
02:23:22,912 --> 02:23:26,921
number one. And with that frame of mind, I want

1911
02:23:26,921 --> 02:23:30,400
to agree with you. That the numbers are off on

1912
02:23:30,661 --> 02:23:36,374
these studies. They're way off. Why? Because they're accounting for

1913
02:23:36,414 --> 02:23:40,854
conditions today. And the population growth that those studies are

1914
02:23:40,875 --> 02:23:44,614
accounting for don't include projects that are not permitted or,

1915
02:23:44,654 --> 02:23:46,854
or, or, or going through that process. Isn't that correct

1916
02:23:46,955 --> 02:23:49,814
that, for example, um, well, I'll come back to you

1917
02:23:49,854 --> 02:23:51,654
in a second, sir. You know, and I, when I

1918
02:23:51,654 --> 02:23:53,394
ask you to come up and please explain it, but

1919
02:23:53,755 --> 02:23:56,694
to my knowledge, these studies don't account for the courtyard

1920
02:23:56,734 --> 02:23:59,734
department. That would be the older apartments right next to

1921
02:23:59,774 --> 02:24:01,734
the Catholic church, you know, right next to our Lady,

1922
02:24:01,734 --> 02:24:05,174
the lakes, that the grams have acquired. And currently sits

1923
02:24:05,275 --> 02:24:11,174
at, I just had it here at 448 units. If

1924
02:24:11,174 --> 02:24:14,134
the numbers I got from staffer correct, you know, under

1925
02:24:14,174 --> 02:24:16,934
the Town Center district, which was approved also in around

1926
02:24:16,974 --> 02:24:21,014
the 2015, 2016 era, they can redevelop that project to

1927
02:24:21,035 --> 02:24:25,174
bring it up to 800, or pardon me, to 900

1928
02:24:25,214 --> 02:24:28,694
units. So from 448 to a maximum of 900, even

1929
02:24:28,694 --> 02:24:30,294
if they go lower, do the math on that, multiply

1930
02:24:30,334 --> 02:24:33,094
that by at least two people, right? And without our

1931
02:24:33,094 --> 02:24:35,574
approval, because they already have that zoning change. So they

1932
02:24:35,574 --> 02:24:37,094
don't, they would only be coming to us for what's

1933
02:24:37,094 --> 02:24:39,654
called a site plan approval, which is basically the placement

1934
02:24:39,694 --> 02:24:41,454
of things on the property. It has nothing to do

1935
02:24:41,755 --> 02:24:45,809
with the scale of the development itself. Additionally, the executive

1936
02:24:45,910 --> 02:24:48,209
apartments right next to the current golf course project that's

1937
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:50,529
going on. And it's, I think they're oldest project right

1938
02:24:50,529 --> 02:24:53,169
now. You know, from there, they're in a, what's called

1939
02:24:53,169 --> 02:24:56,769
a BU2 district. That is a commercial district. Exactly the

1940
02:24:56,769 --> 02:24:58,529
sort of district that a live local project can go

1941
02:24:58,529 --> 02:25:03,549
into. That current district is approximately, I believe, RM36, Mr.

1942
02:25:03,549 --> 02:25:07,229
Attorney, correct? That's correct. Currently they have 158 units, Mr.

1943
02:25:07,229 --> 02:25:10,209
Mayor, and they can go up to 366. You know,

1944
02:25:10,209 --> 02:25:13,329
so, so these are, and again, as somebody said it,

1945
02:25:13,329 --> 02:25:16,429
and, you know, I forgot where she went. It was

1946
02:25:16,429 --> 02:25:19,489
actually, um, one of my friends from the other first

1947
02:25:19,529 --> 02:25:23,089
committee, but the grams, you know, they are in business

1948
02:25:23,129 --> 02:25:27,109
to make money. It's just a fact. So, you know,

1949
02:25:27,230 --> 02:25:30,009
the, and the reality is that again, laws in Tallahassee

1950
02:25:30,049 --> 02:25:32,271
are not making things easier for us. And we have

1951
02:25:32,271 --> 02:25:34,751
to live within that framework. And again, I just gave

1952
02:25:34,751 --> 02:25:37,631
you two projects that are primed for redevelopment. So I

1953
02:25:37,631 --> 02:25:40,911
just want you to also think about the other projects

1954
02:25:40,932 --> 02:25:45,551
within this area, like born apartments, metal walk, uh, new

1955
02:25:45,572 --> 02:25:48,431
barn, you know, and think about potentially what could be

1956
02:25:48,532 --> 02:25:51,391
coming our way there. With that frame of mind, looking

1957
02:25:52,292 --> 02:25:55,471
five to 10 to 15 years from now, thinking about

1958
02:25:55,511 --> 02:25:57,231
the town we want to be. And if we want

1959
02:25:57,231 --> 02:25:59,631
to preserve our character, we have to start getting serious

1960
02:25:59,652 --> 02:26:02,671
about how we address traffic. And to me, I understand

1961
02:26:02,932 --> 02:26:06,591
the concerns, but it would be irresponsible not to seriously

1962
02:26:06,631 --> 02:26:12,238
consider this potential option. And I want to also, as

1963
02:26:12,238 --> 02:26:14,918
part of that, address a couple of things, right? And

1964
02:26:15,499 --> 02:26:17,958
Conspensa's eventually I'll get to the motion, but if you

1965
02:26:17,958 --> 02:26:20,118
don't mind, I'm going to kind of amend mine to

1966
02:26:20,158 --> 02:26:25,534
incorporate with your item ones. Well, just one of them,

1967
02:26:25,534 --> 02:26:28,598
the remove over MP. Um, but what I want to

1968
02:26:28,638 --> 02:26:32,438
bring up in particular as well is that we don't

1969
02:26:32,539 --> 02:26:35,798
have to go to Ohio to look at those studies,

1970
02:26:35,798 --> 02:26:38,518
you know, to know what's going to happen to property

1971
02:26:38,619 --> 02:26:42,781
values here. Miami is ultimately a different community. Just look

1972
02:26:42,781 --> 02:26:45,821
at what happened at the northwest 170th Street Bridge when

1973
02:26:45,821 --> 02:26:49,100
that opened up. I guarantee you property values have not

1974
02:26:49,281 --> 02:26:51,953
tanked there. You know, and I think that that would

1975
02:26:51,953 --> 02:26:59,153
be probably the closest correlation and similarity in terms of

1976
02:26:59,414 --> 02:27:03,833
examples of what would happen. I, I don't believe, I

1977
02:27:03,833 --> 02:27:06,113
actually believe it would be worse for a property value

1978
02:27:06,214 --> 02:27:07,873
to sit back and do nothing. This is the second

1979
02:27:07,894 --> 02:27:11,793
time now over multiple generations that this project has been

1980
02:27:11,833 --> 02:27:16,690
rejected. If we've rejected now, I highly doubt. In fact,

1981
02:27:17,031 --> 02:27:18,850
the executive director has said they won't be coming back

1982
02:27:18,890 --> 02:27:20,690
for a third. So we could be missing the boat

1983
02:27:20,730 --> 02:27:25,570
here and dooming ourselves to a very sad polluted future.

1984
02:27:30,218 --> 02:27:33,717
Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm addressing you. And so

1985
02:27:33,717 --> 02:27:36,677
I'm asking you to please let me finish my thoughts.

1986
02:27:36,778 --> 02:27:39,717
We were here listening to all of you. And I

1987
02:27:39,717 --> 02:27:44,237
think to be honest with you, I respectfully disagree. As

1988
02:27:44,237 --> 02:27:46,277
somebody again who grew up here lives on the east

1989
02:27:46,277 --> 02:27:48,917
side still by the way, you know, and it has

1990
02:27:48,917 --> 02:27:51,477
been studying this issue for some time. And the most

1991
02:27:51,578 --> 02:27:54,117
common thing I want to bring up is that it

1992
02:27:54,117 --> 02:27:56,997
seems as if the concern from most of you even

1993
02:27:57,037 --> 02:28:00,117
now has to do with what's called ramp B. That

1994
02:28:00,117 --> 02:28:03,567
would be the off ramp onto 67th Avenue. I would

1995
02:28:03,607 --> 02:28:06,527
like to go ahead, and this was accountsman sanchez have

1996
02:28:06,527 --> 02:28:10,287
proposed and give direction to the manager to go ahead

1997
02:28:10,628 --> 02:28:14,367
and add and request that, uh, GMX go ahead and

1998
02:28:15,668 --> 02:28:19,567
redo the traffic study. But without rant B. And to

1999
02:28:19,567 --> 02:28:22,127
come back and also to incorporate all the Resident concerns

2000
02:28:22,167 --> 02:28:25,307
that we have heard throughout this public hearing process, not

2001
02:28:25,307 --> 02:28:28,447
only in our council meetings, but in their Public Churettes.

2002
02:28:28,447 --> 02:28:31,087
And also to come back with a recommendation as to,

2003
02:28:31,087 --> 02:28:33,247
you know, whether they would move forward without Rent B

2004
02:28:33,287 --> 02:28:36,367
or not. And again, but again, showing us some strong

2005
02:28:36,407 --> 02:28:39,647
numbers as for Rampy. Again, it doesn't mean that it's

2006
02:28:39,687 --> 02:28:43,407
moving forward. That is just getting even more information. I

2007
02:28:43,508 --> 02:28:45,407
thanks to the soberunds. I want to get more information

2008
02:28:45,748 --> 02:28:49,887
on what the construction impact would be to their homes.

2009
02:28:49,887 --> 02:28:51,887
You know, if this were to move forward. But again,

2010
02:28:51,908 --> 02:28:56,127
we need to really think about this and not just

2011
02:28:56,167 --> 02:28:58,687
let it go. Because we are one community at the

2012
02:28:58,687 --> 02:29:02,348
end of the day, right? You know, what happens on

2013
02:29:02,348 --> 02:29:04,108
Miami Lake's drive will affect you. I mean, just look

2014
02:29:04,129 --> 02:29:07,733
at how bad today was. Right? So we need to

2015
02:29:07,834 --> 02:29:11,253
really look at all these options seriously. Again, I even

2016
02:29:11,253 --> 02:29:13,573
gave you some numbers again. These are numbers. And at

2017
02:29:13,573 --> 02:29:16,693
some point, I don't know when these, these communities will

2018
02:29:16,714 --> 02:29:20,084
be redeveloped. And then work, you know, the reality is

2019
02:29:20,425 --> 02:29:22,324
they're having a ramp on the west side, which we

2020
02:29:22,324 --> 02:29:24,404
are working on, right, is not going to be enough

2021
02:29:24,444 --> 02:29:26,812
to resolve traffic here on the east side. And by

2022
02:29:26,852 --> 02:29:29,491
then, that ship may have sailed. But that is my

2023
02:29:29,592 --> 02:29:34,051
motion. Um, and I'll open it up for a rather,

2024
02:29:34,051 --> 02:29:36,131
is there a second? I'll second. It's been seconded by

2025
02:29:36,392 --> 02:29:40,111
Councilman Sanchez. Um, go ahead and, uh, and, and, you

2026
02:29:40,111 --> 02:29:43,411
know, kick us off in discussion. Sure. So I was

2027
02:29:43,411 --> 02:29:47,251
here for the Public Workshop that GMX did about a

2028
02:29:47,251 --> 02:29:49,711
month and a half ago. And I saw everything and

2029
02:29:49,732 --> 02:29:52,111
I, during public comments, I got up and spoke about

2030
02:29:52,612 --> 02:29:56,041
the Offer and specifically in 67th Avenue. We also had

2031
02:29:56,041 --> 02:29:59,200
a traffic today on 67th Avenue going northbound. Today was

2032
02:29:59,240 --> 02:30:01,280
a bit of an outlier just because it was an

2033
02:30:01,320 --> 02:30:03,200
accident in front of already the leaks. But even on

2034
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:06,400
a regular school day, we're outside of summer already. We're

2035
02:30:06,400 --> 02:30:09,520
back in the normal routine. Everybody's back to school. Everybody's

2036
02:30:09,560 --> 02:30:11,520
back to work. It's we're getting back into the flow

2037
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:15,740
of things. North of Miami Leake's drive toward 67th, the

2038
02:30:15,740 --> 02:30:19,821
backup is just not fair. To get out of my

2039
02:30:20,002 --> 02:30:22,621
Emile Lakes. Right. When you're going north on 67th Avenue.

2040
02:30:22,621 --> 02:30:25,261
So to add more cars into 67th Avenue from that

2041
02:30:25,282 --> 02:30:28,461
off ramp, just doesn't make any sense. On a street,

2042
02:30:28,461 --> 02:30:31,341
that's already ready between a DNF, which they rate A,

2043
02:30:31,341 --> 02:30:34,541
B, C, D, E, and F. Dnf is just bad

2044
02:30:34,562 --> 02:30:36,503
no matter what time of day that you're in. To

2045
02:30:36,543 --> 02:30:39,303
add more cars to that, just doesn't make sense. In

2046
02:30:39,324 --> 02:30:41,623
addition to that, it was brought up earlier the gas

2047
02:30:41,663 --> 02:30:44,023
station that the Lake Patricia shopping Center. I'm happy to

2048
02:30:44,063 --> 02:30:48,343
hear from Sunshine Gass about how they are opposed. They

2049
02:30:48,343 --> 02:30:51,383
didn't have their contact information. However, Lake Patricia Shopping Center

2050
02:30:51,484 --> 02:30:54,503
is owned by those of you that had a little

2051
02:30:54,503 --> 02:30:56,503
bit of a response to it by the Graham company

2052
02:30:56,684 --> 02:30:59,863
and Louis Martinez. So the email that he sent in

2053
02:30:59,903 --> 02:31:02,343
reply to being in favor of it was in Representation

2054
02:31:02,444 --> 02:31:06,903
of the Lake Patricia shopping Center. However, that is very

2055
02:31:06,924 --> 02:31:10,163
true. The Grams do own Lake Patricia shopping Center. The

2056
02:31:10,163 --> 02:31:11,703
gas station, they do not, but they do own the

2057
02:31:11,743 --> 02:31:14,983
shopping center with Chase and Viggy Bakery and the barbershop.

2058
02:31:16,274 --> 02:31:18,739
So. One of my biggest things has always been since

2059
02:31:18,779 --> 02:31:21,219
I've been up here. And even before is traffic mitigation.

2060
02:31:22,207 --> 02:31:25,146
During my prayer at the last council meeting, I said

2061
02:31:25,167 --> 02:31:28,506
specifically, let us represent the needs of the many over

2062
02:31:28,527 --> 02:31:31,025
the needs of the few. I said that and I

2063
02:31:31,025 --> 02:31:35,218
was applauded for it. We need to see this as

2064
02:31:35,719 --> 02:31:39,390
a macroscope instead of a microscope. Of the four of

2065
02:31:39,390 --> 02:31:41,310
us that live up here and that live on the

2066
02:31:41,350 --> 02:31:42,990
east side of the tunnel of my mid - aches,

2067
02:31:42,990 --> 02:31:45,647
I am one of them. I didn't grow up in

2068
02:31:45,647 --> 02:31:47,567
Miami - Lakes, but I've spent more than half my

2069
02:31:47,567 --> 02:31:50,047
life here after I've returned from the U. S. military

2070
02:31:50,087 --> 02:31:53,557
from the Navy. I grew up next door in Hyalea.

2071
02:31:53,557 --> 02:31:55,077
And my goal was always to be in Miami -

2072
02:31:55,077 --> 02:31:57,557
Lakes because of what it is, the jewel that it

2073
02:31:57,557 --> 02:32:00,320
is. But it can, right now my Emilyx was good

2074
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:04,620
and it could be great. We, my item specifically of

2075
02:32:04,660 --> 02:32:06,860
the three ramps, the two on - ramps and the

2076
02:32:06,881 --> 02:32:09,260
Off - ramp completely eliminates the off - run because

2077
02:32:09,260 --> 02:32:11,340
we know exactly how fast cars come off of a

2078
02:32:11,340 --> 02:32:15,129
highway, especially in two school zone. Into Miami - X

2079
02:32:15,129 --> 02:32:19,367
- Kade Center. My son 20K Center, my father, now

2080
02:32:19,408 --> 02:32:21,707
he's much elderly. Was his cool crossing guard at Miami

2081
02:32:21,888 --> 02:32:25,748
Lakes Cade Center. My kids are here. My entire family,

2082
02:32:25,748 --> 02:32:30,478
we're here on the east side. West of 67th and

2083
02:32:30,478 --> 02:32:34,844
just north of Miami Lakeway South. So this isn't falling

2084
02:32:34,884 --> 02:32:38,044
on deaf ears. Now, I had a meeting with GMX

2085
02:32:38,465 --> 02:32:40,764
where Colonel Bull Perez was present, as he mentioned at

2086
02:32:40,764 --> 02:32:43,399
the beginning of his comments. And a lot of questions

2087
02:32:43,500 --> 02:32:47,239
were asked about sound mitigation, about traffic concerns for later

2088
02:32:47,340 --> 02:32:50,039
on for crooked palm. And I also have an item

2089
02:32:50,060 --> 02:32:53,239
here in the agenda for tonight instructing staff to work

2090
02:32:53,279 --> 02:32:58,359
with FDOT, the county, NGMX, on traffic mitigation solutions for

2091
02:32:58,700 --> 02:33:02,839
Lake Saronak for many streets where cutthroughs could be possible.

2092
02:33:03,287 --> 02:33:06,066
But even those cutters would be possible would be made

2093
02:33:06,066 --> 02:33:08,946
by town residents. But there is one factor that isn't

2094
02:33:08,986 --> 02:33:12,262
being spoken about. And it's related to the schools. And

2095
02:33:12,443 --> 02:33:14,342
like the mayor says there is decisions that are made

2096
02:33:14,382 --> 02:33:16,822
up in Tallahassee that we do not control down here.

2097
02:33:16,923 --> 02:33:20,066
That's called school choice. We have the blessing of having

2098
02:33:20,087 --> 02:33:22,466
some of the best schools in Miami - Dade County.

2099
02:33:23,343 --> 02:33:26,602
And even then, some schools in Miami - Dade County

2100
02:33:26,642 --> 02:33:30,273
are currently closing. But our schools are still to a

2101
02:33:30,273 --> 02:33:33,153
good amount of capacity because we have A schools in

2102
02:33:33,153 --> 02:33:36,813
Miami - Lakes, which drives individuals from other areas, not

2103
02:33:36,813 --> 02:33:40,193
even just state county, from Hollywood. My son's go to

2104
02:33:40,233 --> 02:33:42,913
school in Miami - Lakes. They have classmates from Hollywood

2105
02:33:43,014 --> 02:33:46,833
Beach, from Miramar, from Purmoke Pines. ADRIVESTO's cars into Miami

2106
02:33:46,934 --> 02:33:49,038
- Lakes. Those border schools that we used to have

2107
02:33:49,379 --> 02:33:52,558
when we went to grade school no longer exist. You

2108
02:33:52,558 --> 02:33:54,478
can go to any school you want to. And because

2109
02:33:54,478 --> 02:33:57,438
of the accidents that we have, we drive those cars

2110
02:33:57,438 --> 02:34:02,027
into Miami Lakes. Yes, we had a project years ago,

2111
02:34:02,027 --> 02:34:04,667
and that was on the horizon to do Texas futures

2112
02:34:04,667 --> 02:34:08,507
on 57th Avenue to extend 167th Street from the west

2113
02:34:08,547 --> 02:34:10,027
side of Miami - Lakes into the east side into

2114
02:34:10,067 --> 02:34:12,587
the perimeter road. Unfortunately, that was put on the back

2115
02:34:12,627 --> 02:34:15,623
burner due to some gas line issues. And who was

2116
02:34:15,644 --> 02:34:18,159
going to pay the Moose gas lines. But if we

2117
02:34:18,159 --> 02:34:21,919
don't do something now, what is there later on when

2118
02:34:22,020 --> 02:34:27,119
every single industrial commercial zone can potentially turn into a

2119
02:34:27,159 --> 02:34:29,359
live local, which completely bypasses every single one of us

2120
02:34:29,399 --> 02:34:35,065
here and the county. They have every single company or

2121
02:34:35,065 --> 02:34:38,425
every developer that owns an industrial commercial zone doesn't have

2122
02:34:38,425 --> 02:34:41,865
to come to the town of Amuleakes, or even the

2123
02:34:41,865 --> 02:34:44,824
Board of County Commissioners. To ask them, can we build

2124
02:34:44,864 --> 02:34:47,944
this? They completely bypass us. So what's going to happen,

2125
02:34:47,944 --> 02:34:50,824
for example, the Senior Village that right now has 540

2126
02:34:50,824 --> 02:34:53,464
units. That was 22 acres of industrial commercial that could

2127
02:34:53,464 --> 02:34:56,313
have been 1, 100 units. What's to say that they're

2128
02:34:56,313 --> 02:34:58,553
going to come back to us later on and say,

2129
02:34:58,574 --> 02:35:00,073
nevermind, we're going to do it. We're going to do

2130
02:35:00,073 --> 02:35:01,993
it anyways. They can't do it anymore because we resounded

2131
02:35:02,033 --> 02:35:04,553
to Residential. They can no longer do it. But there's

2132
02:35:04,553 --> 02:35:06,233
still a lot of Miami - Lakes, especially here on

2133
02:35:06,233 --> 02:35:09,113
the east side between 67 and 57. That is zoned

2134
02:35:09,214 --> 02:35:14,933
industrial commercial. And in business, we all know everything can

2135
02:35:14,954 --> 02:35:16,773
change from one month to the next from one owner

2136
02:35:16,773 --> 02:35:20,936
to the next. So my idea is to have them.

2137
02:35:20,936 --> 02:35:23,256
This is not going to happen from today tomorrow. What

2138
02:35:23,256 --> 02:35:25,656
we're asking GMX to do by eliminating the off -

2139
02:35:25,656 --> 02:35:27,496
ramp is giving us a buffer of three to four

2140
02:35:27,496 --> 02:35:29,884
months while they do that research. To come back to

2141
02:35:29,884 --> 02:35:32,124
us. And that buffer of time gives us more time

2142
02:35:32,164 --> 02:35:35,867
to do or due diligence. To come back with f

2143
02:35:35,968 --> 02:35:40,027
dot and the county to do traffic mitigations. Does it

2144
02:35:40,027 --> 02:35:44,987
take like they do on coral gables, the roundabouts in

2145
02:35:45,027 --> 02:35:47,227
streets that enhance the image of Miami Lakes with plants.

2146
02:35:48,742 --> 02:35:51,361
What things can we do? Are police officers can enforce

2147
02:35:52,102 --> 02:35:56,355
our traffic. You haven't heard it tonight, but after this,

2148
02:35:56,355 --> 02:35:57,715
our police major is going to give us a full

2149
02:35:57,755 --> 02:36:00,195
rundown of how many tickets have been given. What is

2150
02:36:00,195 --> 02:36:02,355
crime like in Miami Lakes? That's going to happen right

2151
02:36:02,376 --> 02:36:05,909
after we have this vote. So that's why I second

2152
02:36:06,650 --> 02:36:09,669
my original motion that the mayor brought forward to let's

2153
02:36:09,669 --> 02:36:11,909
look at the numbers once they come back with the

2154
02:36:11,909 --> 02:36:14,346
removal of the off - ramp. To not have those

2155
02:36:14,447 --> 02:36:17,288
cars coming off of the Gratiny. And give us a

2156
02:36:17,288 --> 02:36:22,248
chance. Instead of taking seven streetlights to get from Miami

2157
02:36:22,349 --> 02:36:25,288
Lakeway South to the Palmetto to be able to get

2158
02:36:25,549 --> 02:36:27,288
on top of Pometo and get out of Miami Lakes.

2159
02:36:28,251 --> 02:36:29,510
Give us a chance to be able to get onto

2160
02:36:29,550 --> 02:36:32,882
the Gratini and alleviate traffic. For the east side to

2161
02:36:32,922 --> 02:36:35,646
get to the Pulmetto. And from those that are going

2162
02:36:36,067 --> 02:36:42,526
northbound. And for those that are going northbound together. So

2163
02:36:42,707 --> 02:36:46,039
please, I need you just to let him speak. We

2164
02:36:46,140 --> 02:36:49,959
had the Public Opportunity to be heard. At this time,

2165
02:36:49,959 --> 02:36:52,679
the councilman has the floor. Thank you. Thank you, Mr.

2166
02:36:52,700 --> 02:36:55,959
Mayor. Now somebody brought up the idea of an exit

2167
02:36:55,999 --> 02:37:00,209
on 87th Avenue. If you bring up over the bridge

2168
02:37:00,249 --> 02:37:02,769
that crosses into Hyalea, if you low an aerial view

2169
02:37:03,350 --> 02:37:07,489
on that bridge, 10 feet away from the that underpass,

2170
02:37:07,489 --> 02:37:10,289
you have an exit on to 138th Street. It's way

2171
02:37:10,329 --> 02:37:14,331
too close. They won't have thought will not approve that

2172
02:37:14,371 --> 02:37:17,051
exit. That entrance being so close to an on -

2173
02:37:17,091 --> 02:37:21,799
ramp. 1070th Street. One of the first things that we

2174
02:37:21,900 --> 02:37:23,959
introduced when I came on this day is was a

2175
02:37:23,959 --> 02:37:26,919
Resolution supporting on - ramps onto I - 75 at

2176
02:37:26,959 --> 02:37:29,639
the bridge on 170th. Little did I know that was

2177
02:37:29,639 --> 02:37:30,919
a project that was already in the works for quite

2178
02:37:30,959 --> 02:37:33,799
some time. And earlier this year, we received six million

2179
02:37:33,839 --> 02:37:38,359
dollars from representative from Congressman, Moreald to start the PDNE

2180
02:37:38,399 --> 02:37:40,599
study to create those on - ramps to help the

2181
02:37:40,599 --> 02:37:44,625
West side. That's already in the works. But what's in

2182
02:37:44,625 --> 02:37:47,745
front of us now gives all of us the entire

2183
02:37:47,926 --> 02:37:51,800
town, 35, 000 residents. Those parents that are at home

2184
02:37:51,800 --> 02:37:54,200
right now because their kids are working on their school

2185
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:59,022
assignments. And can't be here. But they call. We're here

2186
02:37:59,443 --> 02:38:05,798
for them. It's all encompassing. It's all encompassing. We are

2187
02:38:05,838 --> 02:38:11,407
here to represent you. We are here. If I may

2188
02:38:12,228 --> 02:38:14,447
just for a moment. Actually. We are here. I need

2189
02:38:14,447 --> 02:38:18,567
you to suspect. I need there to be order. If

2190
02:38:18,567 --> 02:38:21,087
you cannot be part of this meeting, then I need

2191
02:38:21,087 --> 02:38:23,887
you to please step outside. If not, the Sergeant at

2192
02:38:23,887 --> 02:38:26,047
Arms will have to maintain order. We need to allow

2193
02:38:26,228 --> 02:38:29,818
others to speak. Thank you. We are here to represent

2194
02:38:29,839 --> 02:38:33,743
you. But you equals 35, 000 residents of the tunnel

2195
02:38:33,743 --> 02:38:36,751
Miami - likes. 35, 000 residents that when they leave

2196
02:38:36,791 --> 02:38:39,791
their homes by Royal Oaks Park on 87th Avenue, takes

2197
02:38:39,791 --> 02:38:43,832
them 45 minutes to reach the Palmetto. We are here

2198
02:38:43,933 --> 02:38:46,312
to represent the residents in this town that when they

2199
02:38:46,312 --> 02:38:49,032
try to go north on 67, 512, get on the

2200
02:38:49,072 --> 02:38:52,632
A26 highway to go either southbound or eastbound to get

2201
02:38:52,632 --> 02:38:55,423
to I - 95 or the Golden Glaze interchange. Takes

2202
02:38:55,423 --> 02:38:58,936
them an extended amount of time. But doing it in

2203
02:38:58,957 --> 02:39:04,058
a safe and proper way. There's no blocking white. It's

2204
02:39:04,058 --> 02:39:07,302
doing it in a safe and proper way. As doing

2205
02:39:07,302 --> 02:39:10,022
it in a way that it's beneficial for all -

2206
02:39:10,022 --> 02:39:18,939
encompassing. And not just a few. Excuse me. Sir, I'm

2207
02:39:18,939 --> 02:39:21,279
sorry. But I cannot have these outbursts. I don't know

2208
02:39:21,279 --> 02:39:23,119
how many times I've had to say it. Okay. We

2209
02:39:23,159 --> 02:39:26,639
are all adults here. We are all capable of just

2210
02:39:26,900 --> 02:39:29,439
listening to one another. Okay. We were listening to you.

2211
02:39:30,039 --> 02:39:31,858
And so now I'm asking you to let us have

2212
02:39:31,959 --> 02:39:35,378
our deliberations. And, you know, to hear us out because

2213
02:39:35,378 --> 02:39:37,538
we are trying to address your concerns as best as

2214
02:39:37,578 --> 02:39:42,151
possible. Thank you. I've traveled the world. I see I've

2215
02:39:42,151 --> 02:39:44,685
seen how bad the world can be. I've seen it.

2216
02:39:45,848 --> 02:39:48,387
On deployment, even on visiting pork countries that you would

2217
02:39:48,387 --> 02:39:50,933
assume were nice for vacation. And I've seen things there

2218
02:39:50,973 --> 02:39:54,822
that I don't want to see here. Miami - lakes

2219
02:39:54,862 --> 02:39:57,342
is a jewel. It will always be a jewel. It

2220
02:39:57,342 --> 02:39:59,142
will continue to be a jewel. But the quality of

2221
02:39:59,182 --> 02:40:03,062
life is also in the balance here. If it gets

2222
02:40:03,062 --> 02:40:05,382
to the point where we go from 35, 000 residents

2223
02:40:05,723 --> 02:40:08,582
and live local affects it to get to 45, 50,

2224
02:40:08,582 --> 02:40:12,925
000 residents. What then? It's going to take an hour,

2225
02:40:12,946 --> 02:40:16,257
hour and a half to get to the Palmetto. So

2226
02:40:16,598 --> 02:40:19,777
it's an all - encompassing. It's an ecosystem with many

2227
02:40:19,878 --> 02:40:27,071
layers. That's what I have to say about this. Thank

2228
02:40:27,071 --> 02:40:30,571
you. Next we go to Councilman Garcia. Thank you. And

2229
02:40:30,571 --> 02:40:33,231
I want to thank everybody for being here. Taking time

2230
02:40:33,332 --> 02:40:36,191
of your busy lives. This is very important. The ton

2231
02:40:36,191 --> 02:40:38,671
of Miami Lakes. I'm going to keep it simple. Um,

2232
02:40:38,711 --> 02:40:40,991
I'm against the Off - Framps and the on -

2233
02:40:41,031 --> 02:40:45,933
ramps. And I'll tell you why. We just celebrated one

2234
02:40:45,973 --> 02:40:50,173
of the oldest businesses in the town. Um, my leaks

2235
02:40:50,213 --> 02:40:55,833
Barbershop that the one of the oldest shopping center, the

2236
02:40:55,833 --> 02:40:59,533
oldest neighborhoods, uh, I've talked to people in those neighborhoods,

2237
02:40:59,533 --> 02:41:03,077
crooked palm. There are two schools. Even if we just

2238
02:41:03,117 --> 02:41:09,317
do the on - ramps, which vice mayor, Cuyazo fought

2239
02:41:09,338 --> 02:41:11,397
a long time, and so did I to get the

2240
02:41:11,578 --> 02:41:14,357
school zone extended to crook it palm? Because people were

2241
02:41:14,378 --> 02:41:18,677
racing through there. Um, and then the kids coming from,

2242
02:41:18,677 --> 02:41:19,957
you know, highly in Miami Lakes, they're trying to cross

2243
02:41:19,997 --> 02:41:23,317
back into our town. We put off ramps there. It's

2244
02:41:23,317 --> 02:41:25,317
going to make it a lot more difficult. It's just

2245
02:41:25,338 --> 02:41:29,671
way too much infrastructure for that little space. And the

2246
02:41:29,671 --> 02:41:32,711
one thing that I know every town member loves is

2247
02:41:32,732 --> 02:41:35,831
leaving the town. Coming back to the town. And once

2248
02:41:35,831 --> 02:41:37,831
you get under the underpasses, you know you're in Miami

2249
02:41:37,852 --> 02:41:41,563
Lakes. Because of the trees, because of the lakes, because

2250
02:41:41,584 --> 02:41:44,923
of the canals. If we had underpasses, I mean, on

2251
02:41:45,024 --> 02:41:47,803
ramps and off ramps, that's just going to kill that.

2252
02:41:47,843 --> 02:41:49,403
Plus, we don't know what's going to happen to the

2253
02:41:49,424 --> 02:41:52,283
Lake Patricia area. People cutting through. What's going to happen

2254
02:41:52,304 --> 02:41:56,589
with that traffic that we just can't see. To me,

2255
02:41:56,930 --> 02:41:59,309
it's just not the area to put it in because

2256
02:41:59,309 --> 02:42:03,389
we have 57th Avenue entrance to the Gratiny, less than

2257
02:42:03,389 --> 02:42:06,420
a mile away. If we didn't have that, then I

2258
02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:11,308
would say maybe the on - ramps. But it's just,

2259
02:42:11,308 --> 02:42:13,708
that area is just too tight, too close to homes.

2260
02:42:15,788 --> 02:42:20,067
The noise mitigation is not guaranteed. But I agree, and

2261
02:42:20,067 --> 02:42:22,567
I understand everything the mayor said and my colleagues say

2262
02:42:22,607 --> 02:42:26,007
about that, you know, if it was any other area,

2263
02:42:26,007 --> 02:42:27,427
or if it was on the other side in the

2264
02:42:27,427 --> 02:42:29,927
highly area and wouldn't affect us too much, but it's

2265
02:42:29,967 --> 02:42:32,227
just going to destroy the character of one of the

2266
02:42:32,227 --> 02:42:35,687
oldest neighborhoods, the oldest neighborhood and the oldest shopping center.

2267
02:42:35,687 --> 02:42:38,247
And it's going to be horrible for people in crooked

2268
02:42:38,268 --> 02:42:40,887
palm won't be able to get out. So I'll be

2269
02:42:40,908 --> 02:42:43,287
against that. Uh, I'm going to let my colleagues speak.

2270
02:42:44,089 --> 02:42:49,348
But I'm going to, before the motion that we tell

2271
02:42:49,369 --> 02:42:51,428
GMX, and by the way, thank you for coming, because

2272
02:42:51,428 --> 02:42:52,648
they spent a lot of time and a lot of

2273
02:42:52,648 --> 02:42:56,148
effort to explain to us. But it's just way too

2274
02:42:56,148 --> 02:42:57,988
much right now. But I'm going to be putting emotion

2275
02:42:57,988 --> 02:43:01,268
later on to just put a resolution to say we're

2276
02:43:01,308 --> 02:43:06,854
against the entrances and the exits. All right. Catherine Herzberg.

2277
02:43:10,693 --> 02:43:14,112
Thank you, Mayor. First, thank you for coming. Uh, it's

2278
02:43:14,152 --> 02:43:18,272
important that residents participate. It's nice to see people come

2279
02:43:18,312 --> 02:43:23,566
and speak. Uh, I will tell you that. Right now,

2280
02:43:23,566 --> 02:43:27,006
the way the project is, whether with or without Offrams,

2281
02:43:27,006 --> 02:43:31,406
I was told that GMX would want to answer today.

2282
02:43:31,406 --> 02:43:34,601
However. And I'm not going to vote for a project

2283
02:43:34,702 --> 02:43:39,423
without the numbers, right? That's my problem. The numbers we

2284
02:43:39,423 --> 02:43:42,143
have right now, I don't like the project. I don't

2285
02:43:42,183 --> 02:43:45,903
think it provides enough mitigation. I don't think it solves

2286
02:43:45,924 --> 02:43:51,343
the real problems. Like 154th and a 26, uh, one

2287
02:43:51,343 --> 02:43:53,583
of the numbers is a 12 second and a 15

2288
02:43:53,764 --> 02:43:57,663
second AM and PN savings. I'll rather sit in traffic

2289
02:43:57,703 --> 02:44:00,943
for 15 seconds and then build, build on ramps or

2290
02:44:00,983 --> 02:44:07,745
off ramps. But, um, the, the question is. If we

2291
02:44:07,846 --> 02:44:11,425
move forward with the mayor's item is GMX going to

2292
02:44:11,465 --> 02:44:13,725
come back to us and give us the data. For

2293
02:44:13,725 --> 02:44:15,905
example, I don't believe this data, I had a discussion

2294
02:44:16,006 --> 02:44:17,985
at the Town Planner. I don't believe this data shows

2295
02:44:17,985 --> 02:44:21,185
us, is there savings for Northbound in 675? Which is

2296
02:44:21,225 --> 02:44:24,092
a choke point too. I don't have the numbers here.

2297
02:44:24,092 --> 02:44:26,216
So I can't vote for it without the numbers. If

2298
02:44:26,237 --> 02:44:29,656
it's a matter of GMX coming back and saying, well,

2299
02:44:29,757 --> 02:44:31,656
here are the numbers for just on - ramps because

2300
02:44:31,656 --> 02:44:33,096
I am a hundred percent against the off - ramp.

2301
02:44:35,186 --> 02:44:38,205
Is useless, especially 57th Avenues right there. I've never had

2302
02:44:38,245 --> 02:44:41,837
issues of 57th Avenue. A little bit of the irony

2303
02:44:41,877 --> 02:44:43,757
is a lot of the people that would benefit the

2304
02:44:43,757 --> 02:44:46,157
most from these ramps are the people that live here,

2305
02:44:46,157 --> 02:44:47,917
live in the area. And a lot of them don't

2306
02:44:48,018 --> 02:44:52,157
want these ramps too, right? But I understand traffic is

2307
02:44:52,197 --> 02:44:57,874
regional. And we have very, very limited tools as a

2308
02:44:57,914 --> 02:45:00,434
town, especially a town of our tax base and our

2309
02:45:00,474 --> 02:45:06,460
low tax rate to fix traffic. So these ideas that

2310
02:45:06,460 --> 02:45:09,580
say, Hey, let's do 875. Let's do I - 75.

2311
02:45:09,580 --> 02:45:12,540
Those are massive projects. We don't have the money for

2312
02:45:12,641 --> 02:45:16,909
those. Those are different levels of projects that we have

2313
02:45:16,930 --> 02:45:19,229
no idea if they'll ever come to us. And if

2314
02:45:19,229 --> 02:45:22,029
the opportunity to mitigate traffic, we have to take it

2315
02:45:22,069 --> 02:45:24,749
very seriously. And that's something I've done. I've looked at

2316
02:45:24,789 --> 02:45:27,709
the numbers over and over and over again. I spoke

2317
02:45:27,730 --> 02:45:32,994
into a lot of residents. About it. If the vote

2318
02:45:33,034 --> 02:45:35,914
today is to vote on the project on itself, I

2319
02:45:35,914 --> 02:45:38,586
would just vote no all around. If the vote today

2320
02:45:38,687 --> 02:45:43,066
is to have GMX come back with real numbers, with

2321
02:45:43,066 --> 02:45:45,866
a no off - rant project, then I'm okay with

2322
02:45:45,967 --> 02:45:48,146
looking at more numbers. I'm not promising I'm going to

2323
02:45:48,146 --> 02:45:50,802
vote for it. Because I do believe there's a character

2324
02:45:50,983 --> 02:45:55,015
of the area issue. You know, I studied geography in

2325
02:45:55,055 --> 02:46:00,118
GW. It's funny. One of my projects in my senior

2326
02:46:00,118 --> 02:46:03,558
year was discussing the history of trans in Washington, DC.

2327
02:46:03,558 --> 02:46:07,318
And there was this big fight express or metro lines.

2328
02:46:07,318 --> 02:46:08,598
I get it. That's not, it's not that big of

2329
02:46:08,598 --> 02:46:12,509
a fight. But DC made the right choice. They didn't,

2330
02:46:12,509 --> 02:46:14,669
they didn't choose expressway. It's cutting through their cities, right?

2331
02:46:15,010 --> 02:46:17,508
Here the express rates are already there. This is about

2332
02:46:18,489 --> 02:46:22,068
whether or not it makes sense to add more cars.

2333
02:46:22,068 --> 02:46:23,988
Cause no matter what we do, more cars will be

2334
02:46:23,988 --> 02:46:27,668
added to 67th Ave. It's what relief does it provide.

2335
02:46:28,557 --> 02:46:32,296
So if JMX wants to come back to us and

2336
02:46:32,336 --> 02:46:35,656
say, here's the data, here's why the two on -

2337
02:46:35,656 --> 02:46:37,896
ramps with no off - ramps work. I'll look at

2338
02:46:37,896 --> 02:46:40,939
the numbers. I'm not promising anything. The numbers need to

2339
02:46:41,120 --> 02:46:43,339
make max. The numbers here don't make sense for me.

2340
02:46:44,443 --> 02:46:48,742
It's just too little of mitigation at choke points and

2341
02:46:48,782 --> 02:46:52,582
adding too many cars. I assume when you get rid

2342
02:46:52,582 --> 02:46:55,302
of the off ramp, adding the cards to the area

2343
02:46:55,323 --> 02:46:58,292
should go down. I don't know. Um, and that the

2344
02:46:58,292 --> 02:47:01,492
good point about the population studies and what type of

2345
02:47:02,073 --> 02:47:04,452
numbers they're using in their traffic data, because we want

2346
02:47:04,473 --> 02:47:07,720
accurate numbers. And the mayor you made of a good

2347
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:11,800
point that we can't control the future development on the

2348
02:47:11,840 --> 02:47:15,000
East or West side for the majority of our zoning,

2349
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:20,498
right? That's just what Tallahassee has given us, unfortunately. So

2350
02:47:22,119 --> 02:47:25,099
I will allow GMX to come back to us. If

2351
02:47:25,139 --> 02:47:27,019
GMX says, no, we don't want to come back, then

2352
02:47:27,019 --> 02:47:28,859
I'll just say no, because I don't have the numbers

2353
02:47:28,880 --> 02:47:31,659
to be able to prove to any resident, whether they're

2354
02:47:31,659 --> 02:47:33,499
on the West side or the east side that this

2355
02:47:33,499 --> 02:47:35,955
makes sense. If we can get numbers that prove it,

2356
02:47:35,955 --> 02:47:38,115
I'll look at it again. I can't tell you if

2357
02:47:38,155 --> 02:47:41,209
I'm a yes or no in the future. But right

2358
02:47:41,209 --> 02:47:45,049
now the numbers just don't make any sense. So they

2359
02:47:45,049 --> 02:47:46,629
want to give us new numbers. It makes sense. And

2360
02:47:46,629 --> 02:47:54,172
I'll take a look at it. Calcioenquadra Garcia. I'm not

2361
02:47:54,673 --> 02:47:57,452
going to speak much. I'm a no - nonsense person.

2362
02:48:00,023 --> 02:48:08,009
After listening on these two sessions, to our residents. Okay?

2363
02:48:08,110 --> 02:48:10,489
I have traveled through the area. I live in the

2364
02:48:10,670 --> 02:48:16,981
West Side. I go pick up my pizza, Domenico. I

2365
02:48:17,021 --> 02:48:20,541
have not seen any issues the need for it. So

2366
02:48:20,541 --> 02:48:25,701
my philosophy is, if it ain't broken, we don't need

2367
02:48:25,962 --> 02:48:30,160
to fix it. And that is the bottom line. And

2368
02:48:30,261 --> 02:48:33,909
I will not support. I will listen to what the

2369
02:48:33,949 --> 02:48:37,074
people want. And we'll need to figure something out, but

2370
02:48:37,074 --> 02:48:37,894
it's a no for me.

2371
02:48:48,472 --> 02:48:56,021
Mr. Vice Fair. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I want to

2372
02:48:56,021 --> 02:48:58,861
start off by thanking the residents for coming for all

2373
02:48:58,861 --> 02:49:02,061
the emails. The text messages, Ms. Colombo, I got all

2374
02:49:02,061 --> 02:49:04,701
those text messages. Uh, while I was on my cruise.

2375
02:49:06,380 --> 02:49:10,933
I, it's important that you come out here. Because I

2376
02:49:10,933 --> 02:49:13,093
don't want you to think that you're hearing what some

2377
02:49:13,093 --> 02:49:15,093
of our colleagues are saying up here and that that

2378
02:49:15,093 --> 02:49:19,173
doesn't mean you were heard. It simply means that we

2379
02:49:19,194 --> 02:49:23,413
do have considerations beyond one particular area or one particular

2380
02:49:23,594 --> 02:49:28,213
person's opinion. Sometimes even contrary to our own. And I'll

2381
02:49:28,253 --> 02:49:29,653
be one of those that puts their hands up and

2382
02:49:29,653 --> 02:49:31,333
say, I live on the east side. I live on

2383
02:49:31,354 --> 02:49:35,253
Lake Hilda. I am directly affected by this. Um, but

2384
02:49:35,354 --> 02:49:38,293
I'm reminded of another time in our town's history when

2385
02:49:38,474 --> 02:49:42,453
this desire to let, let's, what was the word someone

2386
02:49:42,474 --> 02:49:46,910
said, preserve the essence of our community. Or keep our

2387
02:49:46,931 --> 02:49:50,430
town small, which for no one here is increasing the

2388
02:49:50,470 --> 02:49:52,270
size of our town. At least nothing in this decision

2389
02:49:52,531 --> 02:49:55,070
is increasing the size of our town. Uh, it's simply

2390
02:49:55,491 --> 02:49:59,310
addressing the way in which our town addresses the fact

2391
02:49:59,731 --> 02:50:05,395
that we have already grown. I'm reminded of a different

2392
02:50:05,395 --> 02:50:08,435
time. And that's back when this town had the opportunity

2393
02:50:08,536 --> 02:50:13,166
to annex what is now the high Aaliyah annex. When

2394
02:50:13,166 --> 02:50:15,566
we had the opportunity to take over all that land

2395
02:50:16,067 --> 02:50:18,686
to the west of I - 75. And we said,

2396
02:50:18,686 --> 02:50:21,643
nope. And why did we say no? Because we wanted

2397
02:50:21,664 --> 02:50:25,753
to stay small. Well, as a direct result of us

2398
02:50:25,774 --> 02:50:29,273
taking that position, the city of Hialeah said, okay, we'll

2399
02:50:29,313 --> 02:50:33,126
take that. And then they decided to sell almost every

2400
02:50:33,227 --> 02:50:37,566
inch. Of those hundreds, if not thousands of acres to

2401
02:50:37,587 --> 02:50:42,366
Lenar to build the most high density possible, uh, housing

2402
02:50:42,366 --> 02:50:45,006
that they could, how many residents are there? Like 10,

2403
02:50:45,006 --> 02:50:47,761
000 plus. More than that? I'm sorry. Uh, I thought

2404
02:50:47,761 --> 02:50:52,001
I was being conservative. Uh, 10, 000 plus, uh, units

2405
02:50:52,102 --> 02:50:56,161
being built out there clogging up our roadways because then

2406
02:50:56,161 --> 02:50:58,881
they forced the opening of 170th on us. And then

2407
02:50:59,062 --> 02:51:01,841
every single one of those cars on that side started

2408
02:51:01,862 --> 02:51:06,865
crossing 170th. On to 87th Avenue and then making a

2409
02:51:06,905 --> 02:51:09,345
left on 154th and clogging up that intersection even more

2410
02:51:09,345 --> 02:51:13,665
than it already was. And we're all kicking ourselves because

2411
02:51:13,686 --> 02:51:19,742
hindsight is 2020. Well, doing nothing on this. Is absolutely

2412
02:51:19,763 --> 02:51:25,262
one of those things that not tomorrow, not even two

2413
02:51:25,302 --> 02:51:26,942
to three years from now, are we going to be

2414
02:51:26,963 --> 02:51:30,062
seeing the fruits of what we do here, but rather

2415
02:51:30,803 --> 02:51:34,462
10 to 15 years from now. Because I guarantee you,

2416
02:51:34,462 --> 02:51:39,102
you will see population increases in this town. And you

2417
02:51:39,102 --> 02:51:41,662
will see the redevelopments that the mayor was talking about.

2418
02:51:41,662 --> 02:51:43,102
By the way, he left out, if you look at

2419
02:51:43,102 --> 02:51:45,742
that map over there, you see all those little white

2420
02:51:45,782 --> 02:51:49,822
squares on the bottom right side of that map. That's

2421
02:51:49,822 --> 02:51:53,662
60th Avenue. That's those big warehouses on 60th Avenue, very

2422
02:51:53,662 --> 02:51:55,902
close to the cemetery, like half of that is owned

2423
02:51:55,902 --> 02:51:59,502
by the grams. That can also be redeveloped into multifamily

2424
02:51:59,523 --> 02:52:03,182
residential, just like what you have around the golf course.

2425
02:52:03,182 --> 02:52:05,422
Just all those recent developments, they can do those there

2426
02:52:05,683 --> 02:52:09,576
too. There's a lot that they can do, unfortunately, our

2427
02:52:09,616 --> 02:52:12,936
legislature has handcuffed us in the ability to protect you

2428
02:52:13,037 --> 02:52:18,089
from that. That being said, I am more than open

2429
02:52:18,510 --> 02:52:23,369
to listening to the residents. And I am more than,

2430
02:52:23,369 --> 02:52:28,089
um, hesitant on the off - ramp, on ramp B.

2431
02:52:29,972 --> 02:52:32,271
My issue with the off - ramp, uh, for my

2432
02:52:32,271 --> 02:52:39,311
colleagues is, number one, the apparent taking of private property.

2433
02:52:42,098 --> 02:52:46,798
Or not taking, let me, let me rephrase. Obstructing, because

2434
02:52:46,798 --> 02:52:49,278
it would involve the closure of one of the entrances

2435
02:52:49,299 --> 02:52:53,806
to the gas station. Um, and I actually do agree

2436
02:52:54,067 --> 02:52:58,751
with the owner of, um. Sunshine. Thank you. Uh, of

2437
02:52:58,772 --> 02:53:02,991
the gas station that it would truly detrimentally harm that

2438
02:53:03,012 --> 02:53:06,977
gas station, the exit ramp specifically. Almost every single one

2439
02:53:07,017 --> 02:53:10,577
of the concerns that have been raised here are directly

2440
02:53:10,617 --> 02:53:15,942
addressed by removing the off ramp. Noise, the noise, if

2441
02:53:15,942 --> 02:53:17,822
you look at the two on ramps, they don't really

2442
02:53:18,403 --> 02:53:21,822
change the shape of the, uh, well, first of all,

2443
02:53:21,822 --> 02:53:24,042
one of them is in high Aaliyah. One of the

2444
02:53:24,042 --> 02:53:25,662
on - ramps is in high Aaliyah. So it really

2445
02:53:25,702 --> 02:53:29,022
doesn't affect us at all. The other one maintains the

2446
02:53:29,043 --> 02:53:33,062
exact shape and contour of the Gratiny and, at least

2447
02:53:33,062 --> 02:53:36,702
in the current renderings, has a very large, I think

2448
02:53:36,702 --> 02:53:43,022
it was like eight or 15 feet sound walls. So,

2449
02:53:43,022 --> 02:53:46,382
and I believe in the most recent versions from my

2450
02:53:46,382 --> 02:53:48,862
meetings, it was a, like half of it would be

2451
02:53:49,523 --> 02:53:51,502
the concrete, the other half would actually be a visual

2452
02:53:51,523 --> 02:53:54,862
screen, but it has the same sound properties. That's at

2453
02:53:54,862 --> 02:53:57,546
least what I was told. Like I said, I live

2454
02:53:57,586 --> 02:54:01,546
on Lake Hilda. I'm not trying to increase any amount

2455
02:54:01,647 --> 02:54:05,466
of noise. Because I hear it, it bounces off of

2456
02:54:05,506 --> 02:54:08,586
the lake. And it actually, the lake serves to increase

2457
02:54:09,647 --> 02:54:12,746
the sound. Um, so I'm not trying to do anything

2458
02:54:12,847 --> 02:54:15,786
that would increase that. But to try to argue that

2459
02:54:16,207 --> 02:54:20,186
the on ramp, either one would increase noise in our

2460
02:54:20,186 --> 02:54:24,872
town. I think that that's superfluous argument. However, the off

2461
02:54:24,912 --> 02:54:27,592
- ramp, it really needs to be looked at. I

2462
02:54:27,592 --> 02:54:29,672
was also, by the way, told that there was some

2463
02:54:29,712 --> 02:54:33,352
sort of deadline. So I would like some clarification on

2464
02:54:33,352 --> 02:54:36,712
that. If the gentleman from GMX wants to clarify, well,

2465
02:54:36,712 --> 02:54:38,472
actually, or are you talking about the email that we

2466
02:54:38,512 --> 02:54:41,412
received? Oh, no, not, not from anything today. It was

2467
02:54:41,412 --> 02:54:43,672
actually during my meeting. Hey, Mr. Manager, can you address

2468
02:54:43,693 --> 02:54:47,192
that? Repeat the question, please. Is there some sort of

2469
02:54:47,293 --> 02:54:52,792
deadline on us saying yay or nay or one ramp,

2470
02:54:52,792 --> 02:54:55,672
two ramp, three ramp to GMX? I think that they

2471
02:54:55,672 --> 02:54:59,592
are looking to move forward. Uh, I think a difference

2472
02:54:59,592 --> 02:55:02,312
of a month or two would not jeopardize the project.

2473
02:55:03,783 --> 02:55:06,722
So, I mean, if you tell them, uh, you know,

2474
02:55:06,722 --> 02:55:08,282
we want to tell you a year from now, I

2475
02:55:08,282 --> 02:55:10,642
think that they would move on and redirect the money

2476
02:55:10,743 --> 02:55:17,005
to some other project within their network. So just to

2477
02:55:17,045 --> 02:55:21,325
make it, can you clarify or restate your motion real

2478
02:55:21,325 --> 02:55:24,125
quick? Just, uh, can I just basically, you know, telling

2479
02:55:24,125 --> 02:55:27,005
them that we won't accept, you know, this ramp, unless

2480
02:55:28,946 --> 02:55:31,245
project, and let's Rent B is taken away and that

2481
02:55:31,245 --> 02:55:32,845
we want to study and they would have to do

2482
02:55:32,946 --> 02:55:35,565
the study anyway to come back to us with what

2483
02:55:35,605 --> 02:55:38,685
that change looks like. Because their main concern is additional

2484
02:55:38,706 --> 02:55:42,445
traffic coming to the town. Obviously without the offer, that

2485
02:55:42,445 --> 02:55:44,765
solves most of the issues we're having. Certainly solves Mr.

2486
02:55:44,866 --> 02:55:48,445
Alvarez's concern with the gas station. So, you know, we,

2487
02:55:48,445 --> 02:55:50,445
but we need to know what those numbers are right,

2488
02:55:50,445 --> 02:55:51,965
you know, and they need to know what those numbers

2489
02:55:52,146 --> 02:55:53,805
are too, to make sure that they can make it

2490
02:55:53,805 --> 02:55:56,125
make sense on their end as well. Um, and then

2491
02:55:56,386 --> 02:55:59,405
obviously I also wanted them to include all the feedback

2492
02:55:59,586 --> 02:56:02,685
that we have had in these meetings, our town meetings

2493
02:56:03,186 --> 02:56:06,365
and their Public Shahurets. That is what the motion was

2494
02:56:06,365 --> 02:56:09,965
about. Thank you. So, so just to be crystal clear,

2495
02:56:09,965 --> 02:56:12,285
yes or no, yours is right now as of right

2496
02:56:12,285 --> 02:56:14,685
now, if we were to vote yes, it's, we, we

2497
02:56:14,725 --> 02:56:20,125
do oppose, uh, any solution for now that includes the

2498
02:56:20,226 --> 02:56:22,765
off firm. Yes. We're opposed to anything that, that includes

2499
02:56:23,186 --> 02:56:26,925
Rampy. Okay. So that to me is the most important

2500
02:56:27,426 --> 02:56:32,685
thing because I don't see a gigantic. During my meeting,

2501
02:56:32,685 --> 02:56:36,725
I even started already discussing other options with them. If

2502
02:56:36,725 --> 02:56:39,725
we were to proceed forward with the on - ramp

2503
02:56:39,765 --> 02:56:43,085
only design, including doing something like what was done on

2504
02:56:43,085 --> 02:56:46,445
57 with the always go lanes, um, you know, the

2505
02:56:46,445 --> 02:56:49,085
ones that are like the green arrows, uh, with the

2506
02:56:49,266 --> 02:56:53,719
protected left turn. For the people coming north, that way

2507
02:56:54,460 --> 02:56:58,348
it's, cause I'm trying to minimize the traffic light. Because

2508
02:56:58,348 --> 02:57:00,588
the last thing I want to see this town council

2509
02:57:00,628 --> 02:57:03,228
make the mistake of doing is what happened on 154th

2510
02:57:03,569 --> 02:57:07,148
with 47 intersections, you know, lined up right next to

2511
02:57:07,188 --> 02:57:09,948
each other. Uh, I don't want to see that on

2512
02:57:10,209 --> 02:57:14,988
67th. Already adding one very close to the 138th intersection

2513
02:57:15,169 --> 02:57:17,868
is already kind of making me cringe. The thought of

2514
02:57:17,969 --> 02:57:22,428
potentially having to add one, uh, Lake Patricia. That scares

2515
02:57:22,609 --> 02:57:25,548
the daylights out of me. Um, and I don't like

2516
02:57:25,588 --> 02:57:29,148
how nonchalantly that was thrown out by GMX because again,

2517
02:57:29,148 --> 02:57:31,948
it's kind of like not their problem, not their concern.

2518
02:57:31,948 --> 02:57:35,788
Um, but it's very, very much our concern. Um, so

2519
02:57:35,889 --> 02:57:41,474
yeah, as long as we're voting on no. Off ramp,

2520
02:57:41,474 --> 02:57:45,154
no RAM B, then I'm okay with that. Yeah. No

2521
02:57:45,194 --> 02:57:47,634
ramp B. And before we, we go to our second

2522
02:57:47,655 --> 02:57:50,594
round, um, I would like to invite the gentleman from

2523
02:57:50,615 --> 02:57:52,754
GMX to come up and address some of the concerns

2524
02:57:53,015 --> 02:57:55,394
that have been raised for example. You have a fellow

2525
02:57:55,495 --> 02:57:59,554
engineer in Jose Soberan here who has concerns about what

2526
02:57:59,594 --> 02:58:03,554
the impact would be with the pylons, you know, and

2527
02:58:03,575 --> 02:58:07,154
the impact on those adjacent homes along the Gratiny there

2528
02:58:07,175 --> 02:58:10,594
on bamboo street. And again, just please address a couple

2529
02:58:10,594 --> 02:58:12,914
other things. Mr. Alvarez, I did want to go ahead

2530
02:58:12,935 --> 02:58:15,714
and also you ask me yesterday, Max, you had asked

2531
02:58:15,714 --> 02:58:18,674
me if, um, uh, if the town would have to

2532
02:58:18,695 --> 02:58:20,754
issue a permit, we do not have to issue permits.

2533
02:58:20,754 --> 02:58:22,254
So I just want to be clear about that. But

2534
02:58:22,855 --> 02:58:24,674
sir, if you can to the best, I know there

2535
02:58:24,714 --> 02:58:27,154
was a lot mentioned here today, but to the best

2536
02:58:27,815 --> 02:58:30,034
as you can, if you can alleviate as many concerns

2537
02:58:30,375 --> 02:58:32,114
and answer as many questions, I think that would go

2538
02:58:32,135 --> 02:58:36,913
a long way. Thank you, Mr. Maya. My name is

2539
02:58:37,094 --> 02:58:39,633
Ed Godfrey Lamke. I'm actually a business known in Mami

2540
02:58:39,633 --> 02:58:44,273
Lakes. My office is in a 14750, notice 77 car

2541
02:58:44,294 --> 02:58:48,193
Miami Lakes, 32016. So I'm pretty much, I use the

2542
02:58:48,214 --> 02:58:53,713
Roadsier every day. Um, as far as the construction, this

2543
02:58:53,734 --> 02:58:57,313
project basically is going to be, uh, is being designed

2544
02:58:57,494 --> 02:59:01,393
based on the FDOT standards. GMX, you know, follows the

2545
02:59:01,414 --> 02:59:05,713
FDOT, all the FDOT processes. Currently, where we are, we

2546
02:59:05,814 --> 02:59:10,033
are in the project development environment steady phase. And basically

2547
02:59:10,054 --> 02:59:14,913
what that phase is looking at different alternatives. We have,

2548
02:59:14,913 --> 02:59:18,113
you know, the concept that we have currently is one

2549
02:59:18,113 --> 02:59:22,113
of the alternative that we chose as the prefeit alternative.

2550
02:59:22,113 --> 02:59:26,353
However, we always listen to what's the residents as well

2551
02:59:26,393 --> 02:59:30,513
as the electoral officials also have in place. And then

2552
02:59:30,513 --> 02:59:33,233
we take some of those. And then we add that

2553
02:59:33,334 --> 02:59:36,913
as part of our final, uh, evaluation to determine what

2554
02:59:36,934 --> 02:59:39,873
is the best option to go with as far as

2555
02:59:39,894 --> 02:59:42,593
a project is concerned. So by no means is this

2556
02:59:42,614 --> 02:59:47,233
project at its being basically like finalized. It's something that

2557
02:59:47,414 --> 02:59:49,233
is still ongoing. And that is why we keep coming

2558
02:59:49,334 --> 02:59:51,713
to you all to be able to understand and get

2559
02:59:51,734 --> 02:59:55,793
input from you and understand your positions. Now, as far

2560
02:59:55,833 --> 03:00:00,273
as the construction is concerned, FDUT, as I mentioned, GMX

2561
03:00:00,294 --> 03:00:04,113
follows FDOT. And FDOT has a process in a way

2562
03:00:04,153 --> 03:00:08,193
construction, uh, is basically when they are doing construction, that

2563
03:00:08,193 --> 03:00:13,863
involves pile driving. That requires them to monitor. You know,

2564
03:00:13,863 --> 03:00:16,583
the buildings that are, you know, within the media vicinity

2565
03:00:16,924 --> 03:00:19,943
of that area, uh, so they have, you know, vibration

2566
03:00:19,964 --> 03:00:24,023
monitoring as well as also settlement mode monitoring. All of

2567
03:00:24,023 --> 03:00:27,863
these are taken into consideration any projects in ODAT involves

2568
03:00:27,884 --> 03:00:30,983
any POW driving or anything that goes into the ground.

2569
03:00:30,983 --> 03:00:33,623
So all of that processes will be followed. These are

2570
03:00:33,724 --> 03:00:37,383
done for any projects, you know, that involves any bridge

2571
03:00:37,404 --> 03:00:41,943
construction of, you know, as I mentioned, pile driving or

2572
03:00:42,124 --> 03:00:45,223
sheet piles or anything like that. So the project would

2573
03:00:45,263 --> 03:00:48,263
follow that process. If it gets into construction to make

2574
03:00:48,263 --> 03:00:52,263
sure that it ensures that we are not going beyond,

2575
03:00:52,263 --> 03:00:57,063
we are not causing any settlements or any vibrations that

2576
03:00:57,564 --> 03:01:00,183
are, you know, beyond what it needs to be. They

2577
03:01:00,223 --> 03:01:03,683
ask standards that I established based on FDOT specifications. And

2578
03:01:03,683 --> 03:01:06,150
that is what we follow. And that is done throughout

2579
03:01:06,171 --> 03:01:11,225
the state. Um, I know there were a couple of

2580
03:01:12,966 --> 03:01:16,705
other questions that were asked as it pertains to the

2581
03:01:16,705 --> 03:01:22,307
traffic. Traffic is original. Okay. So as far as the

2582
03:01:22,328 --> 03:01:27,107
traffic is concerned, if you have different connections, the issue

2583
03:01:27,448 --> 03:01:29,907
that currently is faced in Miami Lakes is they are

2584
03:01:29,947 --> 03:01:35,427
very few access points. From the town. And I think

2585
03:01:35,427 --> 03:01:38,307
we all know that. As I said, I work here.

2586
03:01:38,524 --> 03:01:40,743
I own a business here and I come here every

2587
03:01:40,783 --> 03:01:46,183
day. Today, um, 87th, I have no 154th was basically

2588
03:01:46,524 --> 03:01:50,183
jammed from 87th Avenue all the way to Palmeira. Same

2589
03:01:50,183 --> 03:01:53,343
thing coming up here to this meeting, 67th Avenue, as

2590
03:01:53,343 --> 03:01:56,595
you mentioned, it was all jumped. Okay. We need to

2591
03:01:56,616 --> 03:02:02,595
have the way you help alleviate traffic. It's by providing

2592
03:02:03,256 --> 03:02:07,075
additional access points. So that the traffic basically does not

2593
03:02:07,496 --> 03:02:10,595
off funnel through one point. They go through different points.

2594
03:02:10,595 --> 03:02:12,835
And that is pretty much the essence of this project

2595
03:02:13,256 --> 03:02:16,035
to be able to have that redistribution of the traffic

2596
03:02:16,696 --> 03:02:21,075
to ensure that all the major roads are able to,

2597
03:02:21,075 --> 03:02:23,475
you know, handle some amount of the traffic and not

2598
03:02:23,656 --> 03:02:25,955
all funneling to just one point. Same thing you did

2599
03:02:25,995 --> 03:02:30,115
mention, uh, I 75. That is currently in the PDNE

2600
03:02:30,115 --> 03:02:32,915
study right now. Uh, similar to what we are doing.

2601
03:02:32,915 --> 03:02:35,275
They're a little behind us. But they're also going to

2602
03:02:35,275 --> 03:02:38,015
be looking at different ramps. That connects to, you know,

2603
03:02:38,056 --> 03:02:40,835
178th as well as also, I believe, uh, there was

2604
03:02:40,835 --> 03:02:42,675
a time they were looking at 154 as well. So

2605
03:02:43,256 --> 03:02:46,595
having all these different access points helps to redistribute the

2606
03:02:46,595 --> 03:02:49,155
traffic. And this project, what it does is not a

2607
03:02:49,195 --> 03:02:52,515
capacity improvement project. It is a project that redistributes the

2608
03:02:52,555 --> 03:02:56,835
traffic. You have some alleviation at 57th Avenue as well

2609
03:02:56,835 --> 03:02:59,795
as also 150 folds, you know, so. And I know

2610
03:02:59,835 --> 03:03:03,315
you did mention about the, um, having only just a

2611
03:03:03,315 --> 03:03:07,315
few seconds, but just consider that it's only per vehicle.

2612
03:03:08,449 --> 03:03:12,268
If you account for all the vehicles that use that,

2613
03:03:12,289 --> 03:03:14,348
that is a lot of time that is being saved

2614
03:03:15,089 --> 03:03:18,028
as well as if you convert that to travel time

2615
03:03:18,049 --> 03:03:21,628
savings, uh, monetize it. That is a lot of money

2616
03:03:21,649 --> 03:03:25,068
on an all basis. So this project basically is not

2617
03:03:25,108 --> 03:03:33,868
just, uh, going to provide just impact on 67th Avenue.

2618
03:03:33,868 --> 03:03:36,348
But it's basically looking at the entire area to be

2619
03:03:36,348 --> 03:03:39,848
able to redistribute that traffic and help alleviates, you know,

2620
03:03:39,889 --> 03:03:43,868
traffic for the entire Miami Lex Tanamilix. Thank you. What

2621
03:03:43,969 --> 03:03:47,948
is a good email perhaps that the residents can email

2622
03:03:47,988 --> 03:03:50,348
you their questions directly out? Cause I know again, I

2623
03:03:50,449 --> 03:03:54,088
know Mr. Jose Sobron has a lot of questions. And

2624
03:03:54,088 --> 03:03:57,128
I think that's more detail on some. They have, um,

2625
03:03:57,969 --> 03:04:03,908
Teregacia. She is the PIO, the Publican World Officer. I

2626
03:04:03,908 --> 03:04:05,448
have to look it up. But I think a lot

2627
03:04:05,448 --> 03:04:10,668
of the residents have been emailing her. And Jose Jambari

2628
03:04:11,489 --> 03:04:15,308
has the emails. So she have the contact. You have

2629
03:04:15,308 --> 03:04:16,908
it. Okay. Can you read it, read into the record

2630
03:04:17,009 --> 03:04:19,868
just so that for those, like for Jose and others.

2631
03:04:19,868 --> 03:04:24,438
So the email for TED Garcia is T Garcia. At

2632
03:04:25,259 --> 03:04:33,272
GMX. - way WAY. com. So I know you have

2633
03:04:33,293 --> 03:04:35,912
a bunch of questions, a lot of, uh, variables that

2634
03:04:35,912 --> 03:04:38,952
you wanted them to, you know, actually home in on

2635
03:04:39,773 --> 03:04:41,512
that. So I would recommend that you get into contact

2636
03:04:41,533 --> 03:04:43,512
with Terry and, you know, she can probably guide you

2637
03:04:43,512 --> 03:04:47,592
better. But for now, again, this is about opposition to

2638
03:04:48,173 --> 03:04:51,972
ramp B, right, and, and getting the study, you know,

2639
03:04:51,972 --> 03:04:56,112
that is without it. You know, so we're going to

2640
03:04:56,112 --> 03:04:57,832
begin our second round. We're going to start with constant

2641
03:04:57,853 --> 03:04:59,512
sanctions. And he had asked me before we went to

2642
03:04:59,533 --> 03:05:01,752
the gentleman here. And then we'll go to you, Mr.

2643
03:05:01,773 --> 03:05:05,672
Vice Mayor. And then, uh, we'll go to Councilman Herzburg

2644
03:05:05,712 --> 03:05:08,952
and to Consume Garcia. So to what the Vice Mayor's

2645
03:05:08,992 --> 03:05:11,192
point earlier about, if this is going to extend the

2646
03:05:11,232 --> 03:05:13,392
timeline, one of my questions during my one - on

2647
03:05:13,392 --> 03:05:16,312
- one session with the GMX team was if the

2648
03:05:16,653 --> 03:05:19,752
Off - ramp component is removed, what happens then? They

2649
03:05:19,792 --> 03:05:21,872
said they would go back to the drawing table. It

2650
03:05:21,872 --> 03:05:24,152
would take somewhere between the two to four month range

2651
03:05:24,573 --> 03:05:27,512
for them to do the complete analysis to see the

2652
03:05:27,693 --> 03:05:29,672
toll gantry where it would be located, things of that

2653
03:05:29,712 --> 03:05:32,232
nature before they would come back and say, yes, it's

2654
03:05:32,232 --> 03:05:34,392
feasible. Yes, it's not feasible, which is why I brought

2655
03:05:34,432 --> 03:05:36,952
up the whole thing about this just, this isn't a

2656
03:05:36,952 --> 03:05:38,792
decision saying, yes, we're going to do this right now.

2657
03:05:38,792 --> 03:05:40,792
It's for them to do that study and come back

2658
03:05:40,832 --> 03:05:42,872
to us at a later date to see if this

2659
03:05:42,893 --> 03:05:46,525
is something that can work for all parties involved. That

2660
03:05:46,525 --> 03:05:48,045
was the one point that I wanted to touch on.

2661
03:05:48,045 --> 03:05:49,245
And you were part of that meeting as well. Yes,

2662
03:05:49,245 --> 03:05:52,925
correct. Thank you, Councilman Sanchez. I'll go ahead and come

2663
03:05:52,965 --> 03:05:57,245
over to me. Um, my question is actually, it seems

2664
03:05:57,245 --> 03:06:03,325
like one of the biggest impediments towards feasibility of the

2665
03:06:03,426 --> 03:06:07,725
removal of ramp B seems to be the relocation of

2666
03:06:07,746 --> 03:06:12,045
the toe gantry. However, I don't see how the removal

2667
03:06:12,306 --> 03:06:16,285
ramp B at all affects the location of the TOGA

2668
03:06:16,285 --> 03:06:19,865
entry. Right now you're renderings and your plans show, uh,

2669
03:06:20,226 --> 03:06:25,608
a new TOG entry on the entrance ramp A. It

2670
03:06:25,648 --> 03:06:30,728
does not show one on RAMP C, but it says

2671
03:06:30,768 --> 03:06:35,830
here a existing mainline tolling gantry to be relocated. But

2672
03:06:36,011 --> 03:06:37,830
it kind of seems like you guys are relocating it

2673
03:06:37,870 --> 03:06:42,870
because you feel like it because it's way after Ramsey,

2674
03:06:42,870 --> 03:06:44,870
like way after. So I don't think that that needs

2675
03:06:44,870 --> 03:06:48,150
to be real. If you're relocating it, fine. But it's

2676
03:06:48,190 --> 03:06:51,110
not because the rams are making you do it. And

2677
03:06:51,110 --> 03:06:54,950
then I see no toll gantry on rant B. Most

2678
03:06:54,950 --> 03:06:58,630
importantly of all. So how exactly would the removal ramp

2679
03:06:58,670 --> 03:07:03,830
B affect to use a vulgar term? The profitability of

2680
03:07:04,171 --> 03:07:06,630
GMX's project because it doesn't seem like it would at

2681
03:07:06,630 --> 03:07:11,030
all when it comes to the financial, that is beyond

2682
03:07:11,051 --> 03:07:19,510
my, but let me explain to you how the Sogantry

2683
03:07:19,550 --> 03:07:23,603
gets affected. So rump B. In order to be able

2684
03:07:23,603 --> 03:07:27,843
to have an exit ramp coming off from the freeway.

2685
03:07:27,843 --> 03:07:30,963
You need to have what we call a deceleration lane.

2686
03:07:30,963 --> 03:07:34,803
So basically cast coming off from the, let's say they

2687
03:07:34,843 --> 03:07:38,003
go in westbound, you know, as they get to the

2688
03:07:38,184 --> 03:07:41,283
ramp, they have to decelerate. You say maybe you are

2689
03:07:41,304 --> 03:07:45,283
doing 65, 70 on a, uh, Gratine. As you get

2690
03:07:45,323 --> 03:07:47,923
to the ramp, you automatically slow down. So the way

2691
03:07:47,944 --> 03:07:50,643
we design it is that we need to have a

2692
03:07:50,643 --> 03:07:53,559
deceleration lane so that the cast can slow down. Before

2693
03:07:53,980 --> 03:07:59,559
they get to, you know, the intersection. So that deceleration

2694
03:07:59,559 --> 03:08:04,499
lane requires additional, um, whitening of the main line. And

2695
03:08:04,499 --> 03:08:06,919
that white hand of the main line is what affects

2696
03:08:07,740 --> 03:08:11,939
the toe country. So that is why you'd need, you

2697
03:08:11,939 --> 03:08:15,219
know, to relocate that to organic. Because that is, you

2698
03:08:15,219 --> 03:08:18,359
know, where it is located right now, it is actually,

2699
03:08:18,359 --> 03:08:21,159
uh, in the way of the deceleration lane. Same thing

2700
03:08:21,199 --> 03:08:25,159
with the Isbound on ramp. When you are getting onto

2701
03:08:25,740 --> 03:08:29,399
an expressway, you need to accelerate. We need to provide

2702
03:08:29,500 --> 03:08:32,999
you that additional room to be able to accelerate and

2703
03:08:32,999 --> 03:08:37,859
almost, you know, be equal with the mainline speeds. And

2704
03:08:37,859 --> 03:08:40,419
that is the additional lane that we also provide. And

2705
03:08:40,460 --> 03:08:43,639
that also impacts the toe gun tree that is on

2706
03:08:43,679 --> 03:08:46,519
the mainline as well. So that is why we needed

2707
03:08:46,559 --> 03:08:49,559
to relocate the two country because it's in the way

2708
03:08:49,599 --> 03:08:59,230
of those acceleration ramps. Just to be clear, and I

2709
03:08:59,230 --> 03:09:02,270
don't know how much this really, the location of the

2710
03:09:02,291 --> 03:09:05,870
toll entry goes into engineering, which I know is your

2711
03:09:05,910 --> 03:09:11,969
forte. But again, just the way I see it. In

2712
03:09:11,969 --> 03:09:15,249
this most recent version, I guess I'm looking at the

2713
03:09:15,270 --> 03:09:19,329
TOG entry at the deceleration. I guess what you're saying

2714
03:09:19,329 --> 03:09:22,449
is I can see how, how maybe saying that the

2715
03:09:22,630 --> 03:09:27,321
Tolga entry would need to be modified. Maybe, but not,

2716
03:09:27,361 --> 03:09:29,721
it doesn't need to be relocated. It would probably just

2717
03:09:30,062 --> 03:09:33,241
need a minor modification to extend it, make it a

2718
03:09:33,241 --> 03:09:36,921
little wider so that it catches that deceleration lane so

2719
03:09:36,921 --> 03:09:38,761
that you're trying to get off. Sorry. You're still getting

2720
03:09:38,801 --> 03:09:42,041
charged. I get it. You know, you guys got to

2721
03:09:42,041 --> 03:09:47,241
pay for that. Um, but, um, I just don't, what

2722
03:09:47,241 --> 03:09:49,081
I don't want to hear right is I don't want

2723
03:09:49,081 --> 03:09:51,321
to hear this come back in a few months or

2724
03:09:51,502 --> 03:09:55,881
whenever and say it's not feasible because of a financial

2725
03:09:55,921 --> 03:10:00,101
issue because of the location of the toga entry. I'm

2726
03:10:00,101 --> 03:10:03,161
saying, I'm calling as the young kids would say now

2727
03:10:03,342 --> 03:10:07,141
cap on that. That is not, uh, at all, uh,

2728
03:10:07,182 --> 03:10:11,561
the case. You already have an incoming TOG entry on

2729
03:10:11,822 --> 03:10:15,001
ramp A. Ramp C would be covered by the existing

2730
03:10:15,262 --> 03:10:20,721
total grand tree as modified. Actually even more so ramp

2731
03:10:20,761 --> 03:10:26,251
B being there negates the need to relocate. So again,

2732
03:10:26,251 --> 03:10:28,731
I don't see, you just actually said it yourself, nevermind.

2733
03:10:30,420 --> 03:10:35,359
Taking out Rambini completely, we have to go back and,

2734
03:10:35,359 --> 03:10:36,959
as you said, as I said earlier, we have to

2735
03:10:36,959 --> 03:10:40,239
go back. It makes the project a lot cheaper. Yes,

2736
03:10:40,239 --> 03:10:44,479
it would make the project a lot cheaper. And we

2737
03:10:44,479 --> 03:10:47,279
would have to look at whether we can save the

2738
03:10:47,319 --> 03:10:50,932
toe gantry if we take out Run B. Yes. Yes.

2739
03:10:50,932 --> 03:10:54,004
I can answer that one for you. You could definitely

2740
03:10:54,044 --> 03:10:55,444
can save the TOG entry as long as it's working

2741
03:10:55,465 --> 03:10:57,564
today, which I'm pretty sure it charged me today. So

2742
03:10:57,564 --> 03:11:01,127
it's working. All right, all you. With that, we go

2743
03:11:01,148 --> 03:11:05,697
to Councilman Herzberg. Thank you, Mayor. A few questions. You

2744
03:11:05,718 --> 03:11:09,217
mentioned the vibration monitors and things like that. How is

2745
03:11:09,217 --> 03:11:11,137
that done? Is that done on site? Do you provide

2746
03:11:11,638 --> 03:11:17,457
vibration monitors to the homes nearby? What precautions are taken,

2747
03:11:17,457 --> 03:11:20,417
because that's something I know that interest them. Yeah, they

2748
03:11:20,417 --> 03:11:27,144
do install monitors. To be able to monetize the vibrations.

2749
03:11:27,144 --> 03:11:29,204
You know, that is not my area of expertise, but

2750
03:11:29,204 --> 03:11:34,024
I do know that they do install monitors so that

2751
03:11:34,064 --> 03:11:37,464
they, and they, you know, as on a daily basis,

2752
03:11:37,885 --> 03:11:41,224
they would, you know, get readings from all these monitors

2753
03:11:41,224 --> 03:11:43,784
to see what's the level of vibration, what is the

2754
03:11:43,824 --> 03:11:47,904
level of settlement or anything like that. You know, so

2755
03:11:47,904 --> 03:11:50,384
that is something that is done on any projects. As

2756
03:11:50,384 --> 03:11:54,664
I said, most of the big projects have that's provisions.

2757
03:11:54,704 --> 03:11:57,544
Right. I guess now ask somebody else, but you just

2758
03:11:57,584 --> 03:12:01,144
don't know if they install them only at the project

2759
03:12:01,565 --> 03:12:05,589
and certain geographical location away from the project. There is

2760
03:12:05,629 --> 03:12:11,589
typically, that they typically go. I don't recall that of

2761
03:12:11,589 --> 03:12:13,589
the top of my head, but there is a buffer

2762
03:12:13,629 --> 03:12:17,029
zone the way they monitor all the properties in those

2763
03:12:17,069 --> 03:12:20,069
areas so that they can be able to determine what

2764
03:12:20,109 --> 03:12:22,069
is the level of vibration and settlements that is going

2765
03:12:22,069 --> 03:12:26,467
on. Okay. And again, this is a big concern of

2766
03:12:26,488 --> 03:12:29,267
mine on what this motion is. I don't know if

2767
03:12:29,288 --> 03:12:32,944
you have the answer to that. The direction I'm okay

2768
03:12:32,944 --> 03:12:36,944
with giving is that you look at the project, determine,

2769
03:12:36,944 --> 03:12:38,864
take rid of Rent B because I think that's off

2770
03:12:38,904 --> 03:12:42,464
the table for us. I believe it is. And come

2771
03:12:42,464 --> 03:12:45,104
back to us. And then we can deceive the figures.

2772
03:12:45,104 --> 03:12:46,544
Do you have any idea how long that would take

2773
03:12:46,584 --> 03:12:50,384
to provide different traffic data on that? I think we

2774
03:12:51,125 --> 03:12:53,584
had mentioned in some of our discussions with you all

2775
03:12:54,005 --> 03:12:55,904
that you're going to be looking at maybe three to

2776
03:12:55,925 --> 03:12:59,264
four months to get a good assessment because the way

2777
03:12:59,365 --> 03:13:01,184
it's going to be is when you take out the

2778
03:13:01,285 --> 03:13:05,226
ramp, we use the original model. That is, this was

2779
03:13:05,226 --> 03:13:07,446
the model that is used by all three of the

2780
03:13:07,446 --> 03:13:10,986
tricouunity. Mommy date broward and push county. It's the same

2781
03:13:10,986 --> 03:13:15,866
model, all three counties use. And that model basically has

2782
03:13:16,127 --> 03:13:19,466
all the, you know, the roadway network, developments that are

2783
03:13:19,506 --> 03:13:21,786
ongoing, all the new projects and everything. And that is

2784
03:13:21,786 --> 03:13:23,786
what we use to fork as a traffic. So if

2785
03:13:23,786 --> 03:13:25,466
we want to know how traffic is going to get

2786
03:13:25,487 --> 03:13:29,066
redistributed, you add a link into that model. And then

2787
03:13:29,066 --> 03:13:32,106
the model will tell you basically, okay, when you add

2788
03:13:32,127 --> 03:13:33,546
this link, this is the amount of traffic that is

2789
03:13:33,546 --> 03:13:36,646
going to get diverted. And it's all based on, you

2790
03:13:36,646 --> 03:13:40,666
know, traffic. Basically, everybody's looking for what is the fastest

2791
03:13:40,706 --> 03:13:42,666
way. Can I get from point A to point B?

2792
03:13:42,666 --> 03:13:44,966
So that's what the model does. The model has, you

2793
03:13:44,966 --> 03:13:47,546
know, different things in there. And it's able to determine,

2794
03:13:47,546 --> 03:13:49,466
you know, what will be the fastest way, what will

2795
03:13:49,466 --> 03:13:51,226
be the best route to use. And it reroutes a

2796
03:13:51,226 --> 03:13:53,226
traffic redistribute them. And that's what we use for this.

2797
03:13:53,247 --> 03:13:55,386
So when we take that ramp out, we have to

2798
03:13:55,407 --> 03:13:58,106
rerun the model again to understand it. And do you

2799
03:13:58,127 --> 03:14:01,706
believe that, or is it common for projects at the

2800
03:14:01,706 --> 03:14:04,506
scale to move forward with, for example, a four to

2801
03:14:04,607 --> 03:14:11,226
six percent savings or do projects typically proceed with those

2802
03:14:11,266 --> 03:14:14,586
type of numbers? Well, for this, you know, for this

2803
03:14:14,626 --> 03:14:18,586
project, we are able to demonstrate that we can be

2804
03:14:18,586 --> 03:14:23,146
able to provide benefits. Okay. Now ask to level of

2805
03:14:23,186 --> 03:14:24,986
servers just looking at level of service and stuff like

2806
03:14:24,986 --> 03:14:28,026
that. You know, they are some intersections that you need

2807
03:14:28,066 --> 03:14:29,786
to do a lot more to be able to get

2808
03:14:29,887 --> 03:14:31,866
it to work. For example, I'll give you a very

2809
03:14:31,866 --> 03:14:37,066
good example on this project. 138 and 67th avenue. That

2810
03:14:37,066 --> 03:14:40,266
is a major intersection that if you don't do anything,

2811
03:14:40,266 --> 03:14:42,666
no matter what you, you know, just the traffic growing

2812
03:14:42,706 --> 03:14:44,666
by itself, it's going to be failing. Right now it's

2813
03:14:44,666 --> 03:14:48,906
failing. This proposed project is adding additional lens to that

2814
03:14:48,927 --> 03:14:51,866
intersection to make it operate from a level of service

2815
03:14:51,967 --> 03:14:53,946
F all the way, I believe, to a level of

2816
03:14:54,047 --> 03:14:57,226
service D or something like that. So that's a huge

2817
03:14:57,266 --> 03:15:02,426
improvement. Another intersection is 138 and 57th Avenue. You also

2818
03:15:02,687 --> 03:15:07,306
experience significance improvements as well as also, um, the Miami

2819
03:15:07,487 --> 03:15:12,426
- Leakes drive and the palmital rum terminals. So these

2820
03:15:12,466 --> 03:15:15,306
are all improvements that we have. You know, that shows

2821
03:15:15,327 --> 03:15:18,462
that this project is viable. And that is really what

2822
03:15:18,502 --> 03:15:20,942
we look out for on any project, the viability of

2823
03:15:21,043 --> 03:15:26,967
the projects. Thank you. Before we go there, again, Mr.

2824
03:15:27,068 --> 03:15:28,647
Peterman, I just came over and I just asked you

2825
03:15:29,388 --> 03:15:32,007
about, if we can get more detail about that home

2826
03:15:32,007 --> 03:15:34,967
monitoring and everything else and count spin, Herzberg was asking,

2827
03:15:34,967 --> 03:15:37,207
I think we're all interested in the answer to that.

2828
03:15:37,207 --> 03:15:39,607
So just if you can BCC, the council on that.

2829
03:15:39,607 --> 03:15:41,687
Account spin Garcia. And then we're going to bring this

2830
03:15:41,708 --> 03:15:44,007
in for a landing. Thank you, Mayor. Um, thank you

2831
03:15:44,007 --> 03:15:45,927
for being here again. I have a question on the

2832
03:15:45,967 --> 03:15:51,229
entire Gratny ecosystem. Are there any exits or entrances that

2833
03:15:51,490 --> 03:15:55,094
are 100 feet. From a end of a school zone

2834
03:15:55,275 --> 03:16:01,277
or 100 yards less to a school. I'm not aware

2835
03:16:01,698 --> 03:16:04,357
of there is any, you know, on the Gratin. I

2836
03:16:04,357 --> 03:16:07,997
mean, the Gratine basically has 57th Avenue and then 37th

2837
03:16:08,037 --> 03:16:12,877
Avenue. 37th Avenue is practically next to the Miami -

2838
03:16:12,877 --> 03:16:15,437
Date college. It's not a K2A. Well, no, I mean,

2839
03:16:15,477 --> 03:16:17,997
they call it pretty far away. Yeah, so it's a

2840
03:16:18,037 --> 03:16:20,717
no. So I'm not aware. Let's put it like that.

2841
03:16:20,818 --> 03:16:24,192
I'm not aware. In the entire, um, GMX system. Well,

2842
03:16:24,213 --> 03:16:27,952
the entire exits that are 100 feet from a school

2843
03:16:28,533 --> 03:16:31,072
zone or less than 100 words. I'm not a way

2844
03:16:31,112 --> 03:16:34,672
at the moment. The answer is probably no as well.

2845
03:16:34,672 --> 03:16:38,752
I mean, we can look, but my, again, is it

2846
03:16:39,093 --> 03:16:40,752
can it help? Will it help a little bit? Yes.

2847
03:16:41,770 --> 03:16:44,629
Is it even the entrant ramps? Is it too close.

2848
03:16:45,066 --> 03:16:48,325
To a neighborhood and a schools? Highly a Miami Lakes

2849
03:16:48,986 --> 03:16:53,255
entrance. On the other side, on the Hyale side or

2850
03:16:53,356 --> 03:16:55,975
our side, it's just way too close to a school

2851
03:16:56,015 --> 03:16:59,346
zone way too close to a neighborhood. Way too much

2852
03:16:59,447 --> 03:17:02,626
infrastructure. The pile driving, the moving of the canal is

2853
03:17:02,666 --> 03:17:06,386
just honestly, to me, that is my issue with, with

2854
03:17:06,426 --> 03:17:10,066
that. Um, and I already did some of the research.

2855
03:17:10,066 --> 03:17:12,366
And I looked at maps for, for a while. And

2856
03:17:12,366 --> 03:17:14,626
I couldn't see a school zone that close or school

2857
03:17:14,727 --> 03:17:18,251
that close to an entrance or an exit. And that

2858
03:17:18,291 --> 03:17:21,051
would be my, uh, and I would ask the mayor,

2859
03:17:21,051 --> 03:17:22,571
would you rather wait to all of us speak before

2860
03:17:22,832 --> 03:17:24,571
I make a motion or would you rather me make

2861
03:17:24,592 --> 03:17:26,171
a motion now? I want to make it as easy.

2862
03:17:26,912 --> 03:17:28,171
Like I said, I want to bring you for a

2863
03:17:28,171 --> 03:17:31,011
landing. So I don't want to waste anybody's time. I

2864
03:17:31,011 --> 03:17:32,731
don't want to, GMX's time, which you've done a great

2865
03:17:32,731 --> 03:17:36,571
job in educating everybody. And the residents. My motion right

2866
03:17:36,571 --> 03:17:39,431
now is to not only include the exit ramp, but

2867
03:17:39,431 --> 03:17:43,371
also the entrance ramp. And at this time, not approve

2868
03:17:43,392 --> 03:17:46,811
or not as a council, not approve an entrance or

2869
03:17:46,851 --> 03:17:50,011
an exit ramp to the phrasing that we're not approving

2870
03:17:50,051 --> 03:17:52,971
anything. It's about a recommendation, a favorable recommendation or not.

2871
03:17:53,232 --> 03:17:56,491
A recommendation not to accept an entrance or an exit

2872
03:17:56,531 --> 03:18:04,209
at this time. Is there a second. Promotion dies for

2873
03:18:04,209 --> 03:18:09,739
lack of a second. Anything else, Conspecia. Okay. Madam Clerk,

2874
03:18:09,739 --> 03:18:15,977
please call the roll. So when the motion by Mayor

2875
03:18:16,017 --> 03:18:21,337
Diegas, which was seconded by council member Sanchez, council member

2876
03:18:21,518 --> 03:18:30,979
Garcia. No. Councilmember Cuadra Garcia. No. Councilmember Hersberg. Yes.

2877
03:18:33,270 --> 03:18:41,823
Council member Sanchez. Yes. Councilmember Fernandez. No. Vice Mayor Morera.

2878
03:18:41,823 --> 03:18:46,063
Yes. Mayor Diegas. Yes. The motion passes. Thank you by

2879
03:18:46,063 --> 03:18:48,303
your vote. The motion carries and we now move to

2880
03:18:48,804 --> 03:18:54,302
16i by Council Member Sanchez. Yeah. That would be the,

2881
03:18:54,302 --> 03:18:57,262
uh, the road improvements to the, uh, the Lake Patricia

2882
03:18:57,302 --> 03:19:01,595
area. Thank you very much, sir, for your time. Thank

2883
03:19:01,595 --> 03:19:03,995
you. Appreciate it. All right. So to speak a little

2884
03:19:03,995 --> 03:19:05,675
bit on the background of this is, has to do

2885
03:19:05,675 --> 03:19:08,635
with the atom that we just voted on is anticipated.

2886
03:19:09,925 --> 03:19:13,264
Please, please pause, Councilman Sanchez, while we wait for the

2887
03:19:13,365 --> 03:19:22,986
chambers to Empty. Oh, we before. 7. 2. Oh, okay.

2888
03:19:24,287 --> 03:19:27,106
Yeah. So I need to take care of that. Go

2889
03:19:27,106 --> 03:19:30,186
ahead. A motion of section 7. 2 of the Special

2890
03:19:30,207 --> 03:19:34,026
Rules of Order. There's a motion to wave section 7.

2891
03:19:34,047 --> 03:19:36,266
2 of the Special Rules of Order. There's been a

2892
03:19:36,306 --> 03:19:38,186
second by the Vice Mayor. All those in favor say

2893
03:19:38,226 --> 03:19:41,626
aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed no. The ayes have it.

2894
03:19:42,889 --> 03:19:45,428
And the rule is waived. Go ahead. Thank you. So

2895
03:19:45,609 --> 03:19:49,268
the proposed GMX interchange that we just discussed project is

2896
03:19:49,308 --> 03:19:52,788
anticipated to result in an increase of vehicular volume and

2897
03:19:52,809 --> 03:19:57,108
elevated vehicle speeds along Miami Lakeway north and south. Lake

2898
03:19:57,148 --> 03:20:01,708
Patricia Drive Lake Saronak Avenue and Lake Candawood Court. At

2899
03:20:01,708 --> 03:20:05,908
present, no traffic calming infrastructure exists in these corridors, leaving

2900
03:20:05,908 --> 03:20:09,588
police enforcement as the soul means of speed mitigation. It

2901
03:20:09,628 --> 03:20:14,948
is recommended that the town council spent councilmen. Again, if

2902
03:20:15,449 --> 03:20:18,268
you're having conversations and chambers, that includes you, David, I

2903
03:20:18,268 --> 03:20:23,129
see you. I'm sorry. Please move outside. Thank you. All

2904
03:20:23,129 --> 03:20:32,669
right. You may resume. An anticipation and to get ahead

2905
03:20:32,690 --> 03:20:36,029
of what could possibly be. It is recommended that the

2906
03:20:36,069 --> 03:20:38,509
town council direct the Public Works Department to coordinate with

2907
03:20:38,610 --> 03:20:41,549
Miami - Dade County to evaluate the implementation of appropriate

2908
03:20:41,650 --> 03:20:45,789
traffic calming measures, including, but not limited to Speed Humps

2909
03:20:46,050 --> 03:20:50,189
roundabouts or other engineers in the affected corridors. In order

2910
03:20:50,189 --> 03:20:54,429
to proactively mitigate, anticipated increases in traffic volume and vehicle

2911
03:20:54,850 --> 03:21:00,989
speed resulting from the possible GMX interchange project. Second. All

2912
03:21:00,989 --> 03:21:03,509
right. It's been moved in second. Mr. Vice Mayor, do

2913
03:21:03,509 --> 03:21:06,429
you have any discussion? Just to say, as far as

2914
03:21:07,250 --> 03:21:10,749
Miami - Lake Wade, north and south, I definitely think

2915
03:21:10,789 --> 03:21:14,169
that we've already seen an uptick and speed there. Uh,

2916
03:21:14,169 --> 03:21:16,669
so I think that this is very beneficial for that.

2917
03:21:16,669 --> 03:21:19,069
Um, I do want to just point out, I also

2918
03:21:19,069 --> 03:21:21,183
don't think that we need to. How do I say

2919
03:21:21,604 --> 03:21:25,183
answer a problem that doesn't yet exist as far as

2920
03:21:25,684 --> 03:21:29,423
some of the other streets mentioned Lake Patricia, uh, drive

2921
03:21:29,524 --> 03:21:33,903
Lake Saranak Ave and Lake Handlewood Port. Those were referenced

2922
03:21:33,924 --> 03:21:39,263
by several members of the several residents that live in

2923
03:21:39,263 --> 03:21:41,983
those areas as though those were going to be used

2924
03:21:42,164 --> 03:21:47,983
as back alley speedways for people avoiding traffic on 67.

2925
03:21:47,983 --> 03:21:51,503
And as someone who loves back alley Speedways, I have

2926
03:21:51,503 --> 03:21:53,823
a lot of experience in this. Those streets do not

2927
03:21:53,823 --> 03:21:57,583
make turns as back alley speedways. They're kind of like

2928
03:21:57,844 --> 03:22:00,703
off the beaten path. But just also, but I only

2929
03:22:00,703 --> 03:22:03,263
say that in the sense of, I don't think we

2930
03:22:03,263 --> 03:22:05,503
need to rack our brains over it, but as far

2931
03:22:05,503 --> 03:22:08,783
as your motion is asking for the manager to look

2932
03:22:08,804 --> 03:22:11,823
into potential options that we have there, I'm not going

2933
03:22:11,823 --> 03:22:15,023
to oppose that at all. Right. Uh, always give me

2934
03:22:15,063 --> 03:22:18,143
more information rather than less. Um, but, but I also

2935
03:22:18,324 --> 03:22:20,303
just want to caution my colleagues on kind of going

2936
03:22:20,324 --> 03:22:25,423
crazy and trying to do all the mitigations when it

2937
03:22:25,423 --> 03:22:29,023
really might be overkill. Miami Lakeway North and South have

2938
03:22:29,284 --> 03:22:32,143
already been requesting this kind of relief. So I definitely

2939
03:22:32,143 --> 03:22:34,543
agree with moving forward on that. And I would only

2940
03:22:34,583 --> 03:22:39,183
ask that in the research that the manager includes more

2941
03:22:39,223 --> 03:22:43,823
than just merely speed bumps, that that includes potentially adding,

2942
03:22:43,823 --> 03:22:48,303
uh, three or four way stops were applicable. Um, as

2943
03:22:48,303 --> 03:22:51,503
well as maybe small roundabouts where the right of way

2944
03:22:51,524 --> 03:22:54,783
is large enough for it, I can never say this

2945
03:22:54,783 --> 03:23:02,703
word right chickens, which naturally possibly also, um, curbing to

2946
03:23:02,804 --> 03:23:08,463
narrow the road. All of that, which naturally reduces the

2947
03:23:08,503 --> 03:23:11,303
speed of traffic rather than just speed humps. Cause I

2948
03:23:11,303 --> 03:23:12,943
can tell you as someone who used to live in

2949
03:23:13,044 --> 03:23:15,343
Satori and had to take 13 speed bumps to get

2950
03:23:15,524 --> 03:23:19,809
in and out every single time. It sucks. And so,

2951
03:23:19,809 --> 03:23:23,169
uh, we don't want to also cause an unenjoyable ride

2952
03:23:23,350 --> 03:23:26,269
in and out of town for our residents. So, you

2953
03:23:26,269 --> 03:23:27,889
know, Mr. Manager, if you heard me, just consider non

2954
03:23:28,230 --> 03:23:32,689
- Speedbump options non - speed bump options. Yeah. Also

2955
03:23:32,729 --> 03:23:35,249
consider Speed Bums were applicable, but don't make that like

2956
03:23:35,270 --> 03:23:39,089
the limit of exploration. If I may, one thing that

2957
03:23:39,510 --> 03:23:42,049
you want to just may want to start to think,

2958
03:23:42,049 --> 03:23:44,449
you don't have to decide today is some of these

2959
03:23:44,470 --> 03:23:48,129
areas have already been assessed for speed humps. For instance,

2960
03:23:48,150 --> 03:23:52,529
Lake Candlewood was a speed study was done. It qualified.

2961
03:23:52,529 --> 03:23:56,289
But when we went to get concurrence from the residents,

2962
03:23:56,310 --> 03:23:59,249
they said no. So not today, but at some point

2963
03:23:59,270 --> 03:24:01,329
when we report back to you, you have to consider

2964
03:24:01,990 --> 03:24:04,769
whether you want, because that's a self - imposed restriction,

2965
03:24:04,769 --> 03:24:07,529
right? That we get concurrence from the neighboring residence. So

2966
03:24:07,529 --> 03:24:08,929
one of the things that you're going to have to

2967
03:24:08,969 --> 03:24:12,049
consider is whether we want to put them in, whether

2968
03:24:12,070 --> 03:24:15,709
people say yes or no. So just future decision. And

2969
03:24:15,709 --> 03:24:17,569
just to be clear, if we were to say no

2970
03:24:17,670 --> 03:24:20,689
because we don't want to overrule the residents on that,

2971
03:24:20,689 --> 03:24:23,409
uh, that nothing stops that if somehow this project does

2972
03:24:23,430 --> 03:24:27,249
get built and it does suddenly start creating back alley

2973
03:24:27,289 --> 03:24:29,489
speedways, they can come back and ask for it again.

2974
03:24:29,529 --> 03:24:35,169
We're not prohibiting that. Right. Okay. Councilman Fernandez. So this

2975
03:24:35,209 --> 03:24:39,329
item actually, I was waiting for something like this because

2976
03:24:40,070 --> 03:24:42,209
I had a meeting with my brother. My brother lives

2977
03:24:42,209 --> 03:24:45,889
on Lake Crescent Place. And these were the streets actually

2978
03:24:45,990 --> 03:24:48,369
that he all, he brought up. I mean, I spent

2979
03:24:48,470 --> 03:24:51,969
two hours with him. So I was waiting for, for

2980
03:24:51,969 --> 03:24:54,089
this project to whether or not we were going to

2981
03:24:54,089 --> 03:24:56,209
know if it was going to move forward or not.

2982
03:24:56,209 --> 03:24:59,009
But I do think that even though we may not

2983
03:24:59,030 --> 03:25:04,449
have gotten the some agreements from some of the residents,

2984
03:25:04,449 --> 03:25:06,289
if it did move forward, I think. And I think

2985
03:25:06,289 --> 03:25:09,169
that we could find some of them. There may be

2986
03:25:09,169 --> 03:25:11,489
some that opposed putting in speed bones, but I think

2987
03:25:11,489 --> 03:25:15,009
we could find residents, it would be okay with them

2988
03:25:15,510 --> 03:25:17,169
if they had the one that I know for a

2989
03:25:17,169 --> 03:25:19,329
fact that we did it and we couldn't get candle.

2990
03:25:19,329 --> 03:25:21,249
It was Lake Candlewood. So some of we'll assess all

2991
03:25:21,249 --> 03:25:23,649
of them and work with the county and seeing what

2992
03:25:23,670 --> 03:25:27,169
other alternatives other than speed humps may be available. Some

2993
03:25:27,169 --> 03:25:29,969
of them may be costly roundabouts or not cheap. Right.

2994
03:25:29,969 --> 03:25:33,009
A lot more than speed humps. But you know, the

2995
03:25:33,670 --> 03:25:37,409
space there, especially on Miami Lakeway South, that the space

2996
03:25:37,409 --> 03:25:41,969
there that could tolerate a roundabout. I would include also

2997
03:25:42,710 --> 03:25:46,109
the no left. So what he included in, you know,

2998
03:25:46,109 --> 03:25:51,489
regarding roundabouts regarding speed humps, speed bumps. And also no

2999
03:25:51,529 --> 03:25:54,929
left turns because that would actually deter people from using

3000
03:25:55,110 --> 03:25:58,689
those cut through to be able to move further north

3001
03:25:58,689 --> 03:26:01,569
and south on 67th Avenue. A left turn off of

3002
03:26:01,670 --> 03:26:04,289
Lake Patricia. No left turn on Lake Patricia. It was

3003
03:26:04,390 --> 03:26:07,329
installed at one point. My brother brought that up in

3004
03:26:07,369 --> 03:26:09,729
my meeting with him. But it somehow it fell down

3005
03:26:09,990 --> 03:26:12,169
and it was removed and it was never reinstalled. So

3006
03:26:12,169 --> 03:26:13,569
I think that would be. Yeah. And it could be

3007
03:26:13,590 --> 03:26:17,089
something that's time sensitive, right? So only two or three

3008
03:26:17,089 --> 03:26:19,489
hours in the afternoon or those kinds of things, those

3009
03:26:19,489 --> 03:26:25,385
restrictions. We can look at all that. Okay. Okay. Any

3010
03:26:25,486 --> 03:26:28,843
countsman sanchez. Just to get back us, the reason why

3011
03:26:28,883 --> 03:26:31,723
I put these items into those specific streets, Mr. Vice

3012
03:26:31,763 --> 03:26:35,723
Mayor is because of the experience with Royal Oaks being

3013
03:26:35,824 --> 03:26:38,283
used 79th Avenue as a cutthrougth. For those individuals that

3014
03:26:38,323 --> 03:26:41,883
go down 82nd Avenue Cut into Royal Oaks and they

3015
03:26:41,923 --> 03:26:44,403
speed down 79th to get to my Miliks Drive. So

3016
03:26:44,403 --> 03:26:46,363
the path that I see here is if individuals are

3017
03:26:46,403 --> 03:26:48,683
trying to get to the Gretni Expressway, for example, from

3018
03:26:48,944 --> 03:26:51,303
Eagle Nest, they wouldn't have to go all the way

3019
03:26:51,303 --> 03:26:54,923
to 67th Avenue. They would cut through possibly my Molecoi

3020
03:26:54,963 --> 03:26:57,403
South and into all those streets. They kind of were

3021
03:26:57,424 --> 03:27:00,843
like Patricia. Um, and use those streets to get into

3022
03:27:00,883 --> 03:27:03,483
an easier access, especially in the morning rush hour when

3023
03:27:03,523 --> 03:27:05,883
there's a school zone right at the intersection of Miami

3024
03:27:06,064 --> 03:27:09,403
at Qua, um, south and 67, 000. That's why I

3025
03:27:09,443 --> 03:27:12,203
included those in there as a precautionary. Yes. North and

3026
03:27:12,243 --> 03:27:14,923
South? Absolutely. But I added those just because of the

3027
03:27:14,963 --> 03:27:21,329
experience from 79th Avenue inside of Roilos. Anyone else? Councilman

3028
03:27:21,369 --> 03:27:25,009
Herzberg and the Councilman Quadra Garcia. Thank you, Mayor. So,

3029
03:27:25,009 --> 03:27:28,209
um, one thing I want to talk about just on

3030
03:27:28,209 --> 03:27:29,649
this, and you're going to hear about it from next

3031
03:27:29,649 --> 03:27:34,209
month is the timeline for improvement, ASAP, two reasons why.

3032
03:27:34,230 --> 03:27:35,809
One, I think we got to make sure to give

3033
03:27:35,910 --> 03:27:40,169
the manager an idea. And two, maybe this is a

3034
03:27:40,169 --> 03:27:43,409
good idea regardless, but obviously there's no guarantee that the

3035
03:27:43,670 --> 03:27:45,889
Gratini Project moves forward by the GMX comes back to

3036
03:27:45,929 --> 03:27:47,489
us or even We Vote for it. I was really

3037
03:27:47,489 --> 03:27:50,209
being really serious about that. I really, it's difficult for

3038
03:27:50,209 --> 03:27:52,689
me to vote for the project. But, um, that's why

3039
03:27:52,790 --> 03:27:54,689
I just want to make sure that we're using resources

3040
03:27:54,950 --> 03:28:00,029
correctly. Regardless, there's a speed issue in Lakeway anyway. And

3041
03:28:00,029 --> 03:28:02,849
I do want to look at other, other mitigation efforts

3042
03:28:02,889 --> 03:28:05,569
other than just speed bumps. Because the Speed Bums, they're

3043
03:28:05,569 --> 03:28:08,129
okay. They can work in smaller streets, but maybe the

3044
03:28:08,169 --> 03:28:11,793
things, but of course, the cost. May I rip it.

3045
03:28:13,762 --> 03:28:17,421
To respond, yes. So the implementation is not the implementation

3046
03:28:17,461 --> 03:28:21,981
of the actual barriers is the implementation of them going

3047
03:28:22,082 --> 03:28:25,421
out to get the ideas. No, I understand that. Because

3048
03:28:25,421 --> 03:28:26,861
I know it's not going to take from one day

3049
03:28:26,861 --> 03:28:29,021
to the next. Agreed. You'll, you'll hear from me next

3050
03:28:29,021 --> 03:28:32,780
month about on that that issue. Okay. Thank you, counseling.

3051
03:28:33,521 --> 03:28:36,380
Councilman Quadra Garcia. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Chair. Um,

3052
03:28:36,420 --> 03:28:41,839
you guys, uh, took, uh, my word away roundabouts. You

3053
03:28:41,839 --> 03:28:45,919
get to see them in different parts of the county.

3054
03:28:45,919 --> 03:28:48,939
Coral Gables. You need to, uh, look into these, uh,

3055
03:28:48,939 --> 03:28:53,798
roundabouts there. They're going to be, they're the things that

3056
03:28:53,979 --> 03:28:57,076
will help us with the issue of the speeding. So

3057
03:28:57,417 --> 03:29:01,076
that's, that's the key right there. Roundabouts. It'll be my,

3058
03:29:01,076 --> 03:29:09,215
uh, next meetings MBI. I put it in roundabouts. Yep.

3059
03:29:09,236 --> 03:29:12,330
Anyone else. All right. Out those in favor say aye.

3060
03:29:12,330 --> 03:29:15,130
Aye. All opposed no. The ayes have it. The item

3061
03:29:15,551 --> 03:29:19,990
passes. That was 16i. We are now on appointments, uh,

3062
03:29:20,591 --> 03:29:24,650
being appointed to appoint it and sworn in, we have

3063
03:29:24,690 --> 03:29:29,050
Audrey Tomlinson, the blasting advisory board by Councilman Steven Herzberg.

3064
03:29:29,508 --> 03:29:32,607
We have two individuals who resigned. We have an individual

3065
03:29:32,628 --> 03:29:37,247
who was removed due to absences. And we have an

3066
03:29:37,247 --> 03:29:40,687
individual who requires a waiver. That is Mr. Eddie Mena,

3067
03:29:40,687 --> 03:29:42,767
who is right here to the Veteran Affairs Committee by

3068
03:29:42,948 --> 03:29:46,647
Council Member JC Fernandez, Councilman Fernandez is currently awake. So

3069
03:29:46,647 --> 03:29:49,727
I will go ahead and move the waiver. I want

3070
03:29:49,727 --> 03:29:52,247
to note that he is a veteran as well. So

3071
03:29:52,247 --> 03:29:55,407
even though he may not live within our town boundaries,

3072
03:29:55,407 --> 03:29:58,587
just like Mr. Uh, cardinals, you know, Gary Cardenas, uh,

3073
03:29:58,788 --> 03:30:01,887
he is somebody who obviously cares about that community a

3074
03:30:01,887 --> 03:30:04,767
whole lot. So with that, that is my, uh, second.

3075
03:30:05,348 --> 03:30:07,967
I will second for discussion. Okay. Oh, I won. Well,

3076
03:30:08,007 --> 03:30:09,327
what do you want to do? I have to correct

3077
03:30:09,508 --> 03:30:13,487
the mayor and calling Mr. Manna a veteran. Mr. Mena

3078
03:30:13,487 --> 03:30:19,112
is a Marine. And one submarine always a maringy. There

3079
03:30:19,112 --> 03:30:21,412
you go. Okay. I'm sorry. Fred Navy Marine guys, you

3080
03:30:21,412 --> 03:30:26,527
know, like go figure. But with that said, um, it

3081
03:30:26,567 --> 03:30:28,367
was seconded by the Vice Mayor. All those in favor

3082
03:30:28,407 --> 03:30:32,367
of the waivers say. All opposed no. The ayes haven't.

3083
03:30:32,367 --> 03:30:35,247
And congratulations, Eddie. Welcome to the well, yeah, the club.

3084
03:30:35,247 --> 03:30:41,316
I mean, you're always here anyway. So. Sure. Absolutely. Eddie,

3085
03:30:41,316 --> 03:30:44,276
you want to say anything really quick? I'm sorry. No.

3086
03:30:44,377 --> 03:30:46,196
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Vice Mayor. Thank you. Council

3087
03:30:46,236 --> 03:30:51,260
people. Thank you, the manager. Uh, I've been part of

3088
03:30:51,441 --> 03:30:53,340
Mammy League's for a long time. I used to live

3089
03:30:53,380 --> 03:30:55,020
here in Miami Lake. So you used to live in

3090
03:30:55,121 --> 03:30:59,340
Wimbled Gate. I got married, moved to Hyale. But I

3091
03:30:59,601 --> 03:31:03,100
am very, very active, very, very active here in Miami

3092
03:31:03,201 --> 03:31:07,320
Leagues. I'm involved with the church. Lady the leaks. I'm

3093
03:31:07,320 --> 03:31:11,420
involved with the veterans Day Parade. I'm involved with the

3094
03:31:11,441 --> 03:31:13,660
forfeit of July party. I always bring people there. I've

3095
03:31:13,660 --> 03:31:16,900
been doing that for 20, I think 24 years. So

3096
03:31:17,041 --> 03:31:19,880
yeah, I'm a very active person. You're Remy Lakes. And

3097
03:31:19,880 --> 03:31:22,780
I do care about Miami Lakes a lot. And I

3098
03:31:22,820 --> 03:31:25,900
am honored to be, uh, in the veterans board committee.

3099
03:31:27,081 --> 03:31:29,780
And I would do my best to help out the

3100
03:31:30,121 --> 03:31:36,564
Resident Mami Lakes. The thank you once again. Councilman Garcia.

3101
03:31:36,564 --> 03:31:38,404
You're going to thank you. My son's a Marine. He's

3102
03:31:38,585 --> 03:31:41,904
a Norway right now training with NATO. Yeah. And, um,

3103
03:31:42,665 --> 03:31:46,484
you know, he's, he's loving it, man. I was in

3104
03:31:46,665 --> 03:31:50,244
for 84 through 88. Awesome. So yeah, I traveled the

3105
03:31:50,244 --> 03:31:52,084
world as well. So it was pretty cool. He's loving

3106
03:31:52,105 --> 03:31:53,924
it, man. Not that long ago. He's a strong height

3107
03:31:53,924 --> 03:31:55,604
right now. He's loves it. Norway is beautiful, he says.

3108
03:31:55,625 --> 03:31:57,764
Oh, that is a beautiful place. Yeah. And I'll tell

3109
03:31:57,764 --> 03:32:00,644
you, by the way, just as the last concluder point,

3110
03:32:00,644 --> 03:32:03,044
um, and I'm sure councilman Sanchez will echo my statement

3111
03:32:03,044 --> 03:32:05,509
here. It's the same statement I've made to every single

3112
03:32:05,610 --> 03:32:07,909
member of the of the VC, which is you need

3113
03:32:07,909 --> 03:32:10,389
something. Let me know. And I'm sure he'll echo my

3114
03:32:10,429 --> 03:32:13,109
sentiment on that. All of us really. It's one of

3115
03:32:13,149 --> 03:32:15,909
our, our several. We have a lot of little treasures,

3116
03:32:15,909 --> 03:32:18,149
but that one we hold really close to us. It's

3117
03:32:18,149 --> 03:32:21,669
hard to your car. Yeah. Very close to our heart.

3118
03:32:21,669 --> 03:32:23,898
So thank you for serving. Thank you. And both the

3119
03:32:23,938 --> 03:32:26,538
military and in our committee. Thank you once again. All

3120
03:32:26,538 --> 03:32:29,338
righty with that, we are on to the next item,

3121
03:32:29,338 --> 03:32:31,818
which is the monthly police report.

3122
03:32:40,754 --> 03:32:45,602
Oh, good evening all. For the month of July. Obviously

3123
03:32:45,623 --> 03:32:49,042
our numbers continue to stay down, uh, we're currently at

3124
03:32:49,063 --> 03:32:55,362
a 38 percent deficit crimes within the town. Um, as

3125
03:32:55,402 --> 03:32:57,842
a part of like the mitigation process in reference to,

3126
03:32:57,842 --> 03:32:59,842
I know a lot of concerns obviously were traffic related.

3127
03:33:01,124 --> 03:33:07,823
We issued 176 citations. And also, uh, educated a total

3128
03:33:07,823 --> 03:33:10,623
of 88 times in reference to the drivers for any

3129
03:33:10,663 --> 03:33:14,223
infractions that they may have caused, tolding to 264 contacts

3130
03:33:14,263 --> 03:33:17,933
for the month of July. Um, uh, besides obviously the

3131
03:33:18,034 --> 03:33:20,733
obvious that we had, obviously, uh, you know, last week

3132
03:33:20,773 --> 03:33:25,193
of the Statura theft, I'm really happy, obviously, that, uh,

3133
03:33:25,193 --> 03:33:28,253
the community came together and our guys did a magnificent

3134
03:33:28,293 --> 03:33:31,293
job in reference closing out that case. And, uh, you

3135
03:33:31,293 --> 03:33:33,293
know, obviously we continue to do the very best that

3136
03:33:33,333 --> 03:33:35,133
we can in reference to mitigate any issues that you

3137
03:33:35,133 --> 03:33:43,133
guys bring upon. Sanchez. You recognize. Well, as always, outstanding

3138
03:33:43,133 --> 03:33:45,053
job and great job on the first day back to

3139
03:33:45,074 --> 03:33:47,593
school. I know the street lights were a little bit

3140
03:33:47,714 --> 03:33:51,353
of a, uh, of a nightmare there on 79th. But

3141
03:33:51,714 --> 03:33:54,653
you know, the whole department handled it the way that

3142
03:33:54,653 --> 03:33:58,173
we know the ecclesia gold standard. That is Miami Dade

3143
03:33:58,213 --> 03:34:01,453
County. And you're the crown jewel of Miami Dean County.

3144
03:34:02,332 --> 03:34:05,991
On Saturday, though, around 3 p. m. I was coming

3145
03:34:06,031 --> 03:34:09,111
off the Palmetto heading home. And I dialed 911 because

3146
03:34:09,132 --> 03:34:12,498
of what I saw. There were a group of about

3147
03:34:12,679 --> 03:34:17,424
20 to 30 teenagers on dirt bikes doing wheaties. Passing

3148
03:34:17,424 --> 03:34:19,686
in front of the golf course, heading westbound. I know

3149
03:34:19,707 --> 03:34:22,246
the item later on on the agenda that addresses it

3150
03:34:22,267 --> 03:34:26,567
from Councilman Garcia about creating a task force. Are there

3151
03:34:26,607 --> 03:34:28,567
different things that we can do to try to mitigate

3152
03:34:29,468 --> 03:34:33,047
that just before we get to the task force item?

3153
03:34:33,047 --> 03:34:34,327
Or is just 911 the best thing that we can

3154
03:34:34,327 --> 03:34:38,167
do. I mean, absolutely. I mean, um, you know, comedy

3155
03:34:38,428 --> 03:34:40,647
is the truth of the matter is, is like when

3156
03:34:40,647 --> 03:34:43,207
it comes to like anything referenced the bikes, dirt bikes,

3157
03:34:43,207 --> 03:34:46,007
whatever. Those are all traffic mitigation issues. Right. Uh, so

3158
03:34:46,028 --> 03:34:49,527
those get addressed the same exact way as speeding car

3159
03:34:50,188 --> 03:34:53,527
or illegal U - turns. It's, it's really mitigating no

3160
03:34:53,567 --> 03:34:57,207
different. Um, obviously, you know, more eyes and ears obviously

3161
03:34:57,247 --> 03:34:59,847
better for us. Um, obviously, you know, like everybody knows

3162
03:35:00,028 --> 03:35:02,407
we can't be everywhere at once. And obviously, you know,

3163
03:35:02,508 --> 03:35:07,987
we drive big Christmas trees with lights on top. Uh,

3164
03:35:07,987 --> 03:35:10,967
so obviously when they see us anywhere near, they typically

3165
03:35:10,988 --> 03:35:12,807
don't do it. And they just kind of write along

3166
03:35:13,068 --> 03:35:18,967
like they're supposed to. And when obviously mommy and daddy

3167
03:35:19,007 --> 03:35:22,727
are not around, obviously they, they act accordingly, I guess.

3168
03:35:22,727 --> 03:35:24,727
So with that being said, I mean, obviously, you know,

3169
03:35:24,828 --> 03:35:29,607
the best router obviously is obviously called dispatch. Obviously to

3170
03:35:29,628 --> 03:35:32,567
do it in a timely manner, obviously. Um, you know,

3171
03:35:32,607 --> 03:35:34,727
and I know that obviously the concerns in reverence to

3172
03:35:34,748 --> 03:35:38,887
e - bikes and scooters and, and eMotos, et cetera.

3173
03:35:38,887 --> 03:35:41,767
But again, those are all like factions that we have

3174
03:35:41,767 --> 03:35:45,207
to deal with no different than any traffic concern. Because

3175
03:35:45,468 --> 03:35:48,247
again, it just runs into the same issues that we

3176
03:35:48,287 --> 03:35:50,487
always run. It's, they're allowed to be on the road.

3177
03:35:50,487 --> 03:35:52,487
Obviously they're not allowed to do Willie's and that kind

3178
03:35:52,487 --> 03:35:55,107
of stuff. That's a different, that's totally different animal. But

3179
03:35:55,107 --> 03:35:57,927
nonetheless, you know, the mere fact that they're on sidewalks

3180
03:35:58,028 --> 03:36:01,127
or on the road and writing, unfortunately enough, that is

3181
03:36:01,148 --> 03:36:03,367
part of what is allowed and references to the state

3182
03:36:03,388 --> 03:36:06,487
laws. Um, you know, and obviously I understand the whole

3183
03:36:06,748 --> 03:36:11,047
task force aspect of it, obviously for safety reasons. But,

3184
03:36:11,047 --> 03:36:12,567
you know, unfortunately enough, a lot of those things are

3185
03:36:13,068 --> 03:36:16,007
tied into traffic mitigation issues. The worst thing we can

3186
03:36:16,007 --> 03:36:18,887
do ourselves is take physical action. We cannot go after

3187
03:36:18,927 --> 03:36:22,307
them. Obviously law enforcement. We are now law enforcement, new

3188
03:36:22,307 --> 03:36:25,167
or law enforcement. Right. Okay. Yeah. I mean, like, I

3189
03:36:25,167 --> 03:36:28,727
mean, a lot of like, um, like, you know, some

3190
03:36:28,767 --> 03:36:31,107
towns like Palmetto Bay. I know that Dave, you know,

3191
03:36:31,148 --> 03:36:33,607
tried to do like educational campaigns in reference to like

3192
03:36:33,607 --> 03:36:34,807
the e - bikes and stuff like that. I mean,

3193
03:36:34,807 --> 03:36:37,447
that should be something that we should probably look into.

3194
03:36:37,487 --> 03:36:41,287
I figure like what, you know, the Public Safety Committee.

3195
03:36:41,287 --> 03:36:42,727
Now those are things that we can obviously work with.

3196
03:36:42,727 --> 03:36:46,007
I know that, uh, just like golf carts, no different.

3197
03:36:46,007 --> 03:36:48,327
Like golf cart safety. You know, these are the same

3198
03:36:48,348 --> 03:36:51,527
exact same exact things, you know, and unfortunately enough. They

3199
03:36:51,567 --> 03:36:56,308
are part of traffic mitigation. Thank you, Major. Any other

3200
03:36:56,348 --> 03:37:00,468
comments or questions? Councilman Bada Garcia. Thank you, Mr. Major.

3201
03:37:00,468 --> 03:37:06,228
Uh, great work. Congratulations on the team effort of getting

3202
03:37:06,249 --> 03:37:10,708
that stature back. I thought it wasn't, uh, wasn't going

3203
03:37:10,708 --> 03:37:15,894
to be recuperated, but it was great job. I had,

3204
03:37:15,894 --> 03:37:19,814
I had an encounter with those, uh, those gentlemen. Actually,

3205
03:37:19,915 --> 03:37:23,574
not one time, but two times with these gentlemen's popping

3206
03:37:23,675 --> 03:37:29,671
willies going northbound on 79. And literally just popping the

3207
03:37:29,711 --> 03:37:31,831
wheelie and I'm going like, okay, where are you guys

3208
03:37:31,831 --> 03:37:34,071
going? And they're doing this to me. Yeah. I mean,

3209
03:37:34,071 --> 03:37:37,671
literally doing the birdie and I'm going, okay, so my

3210
03:37:37,772 --> 03:37:42,471
wife is, so I happened to, I happened to be

3211
03:37:42,471 --> 03:37:43,991
able to talk to one of them. And I said,

3212
03:37:43,991 --> 03:37:48,151
well, I'm sure that your mom and dad educated you

3213
03:37:48,191 --> 03:37:50,551
a little more. Why don't you tell me where your

3214
03:37:50,551 --> 03:37:52,711
mom and dad are? She says, come on, follow me.

3215
03:37:53,612 --> 03:37:55,431
So they took me all the way into the guard

3216
03:37:55,471 --> 03:37:59,431
gate and passed JC's street there and they made elect

3217
03:37:59,471 --> 03:38:02,871
there. But what happened is the dead end, the dead

3218
03:38:02,871 --> 03:38:05,351
end, right? So right, I said, well, where do you,

3219
03:38:05,351 --> 03:38:07,031
what are you guys taking me? Are we close to

3220
03:38:07,071 --> 03:38:10,047
your house. And right when we got to the dead

3221
03:38:10,087 --> 03:38:14,527
end, they just left through the dead end. Have you

3222
03:38:14,527 --> 03:38:17,327
seen them before these kids that are popping the wheelies?

3223
03:38:17,428 --> 03:38:20,687
I mean, we see them around the town, obviously, but,

3224
03:38:20,687 --> 03:38:23,967
um, there's been, there's been instances where, for example, I've

3225
03:38:23,988 --> 03:38:26,687
addressed it, like seeing it at Main Street. Like obviously

3226
03:38:26,948 --> 03:38:29,247
I live in the town as well. So those are

3227
03:38:29,247 --> 03:38:32,287
things that I've been able to, you know, mitigating address

3228
03:38:32,308 --> 03:38:36,447
at that moment. But once they're gone, they go right

3229
03:38:36,487 --> 03:38:38,207
back to it. And it is, it is a social

3230
03:38:38,207 --> 03:38:42,367
media trend. You know, there is like a very cult

3231
03:38:42,407 --> 03:38:44,287
following in reference to what these kids are doing on

3232
03:38:44,327 --> 03:38:47,327
the bikes and reference to Willis. So it's, it's, it's

3233
03:38:47,508 --> 03:38:51,387
more geared to a trend more so than, you know,

3234
03:38:51,508 --> 03:38:59,388
them being rembunctious in reality. So. Councilman Herzberg. Thank you

3235
03:38:59,409 --> 03:39:01,668
very much, Mayor. And you just said Main Street. So

3236
03:39:01,668 --> 03:39:04,108
reminded me, I got a phone call for my resident

3237
03:39:04,108 --> 03:39:06,908
about Minshire. I think you might have been on Thursday,

3238
03:39:06,908 --> 03:39:09,708
but it was sort of during summertime. They said there's

3239
03:39:09,748 --> 03:39:12,028
just a lot of teenagers out there past 8 p.

3240
03:39:12,028 --> 03:39:14,908
m. 10 p. m. Obviously that's a private property rule.

3241
03:39:14,908 --> 03:39:18,188
I think the curfew's 11 p. m. right on weekdays?

3242
03:39:18,228 --> 03:39:21,868
Well, so in reference to the private property, the grant

3243
03:39:21,868 --> 03:39:24,028
of property is private property. Yeah. But the Grams Institute

3244
03:39:24,529 --> 03:39:29,688
have added, I mean, and obviously Garcia knows this, um,

3245
03:39:30,289 --> 03:39:33,628
their curfew's APM, but they have to enforce that. Right.

3246
03:39:33,628 --> 03:39:37,148
Uh, they're security. No, because we have to go based

3247
03:39:37,148 --> 03:39:39,628
off state law now since it is private property. What

3248
03:39:39,628 --> 03:39:42,188
we do is that we, we're like a secondary line

3249
03:39:42,228 --> 03:39:44,988
of defense for them. So if they, if they're enforcing

3250
03:39:45,249 --> 03:39:48,588
their, their curfews, um, and they encounter issues. And obviously

3251
03:39:48,689 --> 03:39:51,788
then at that point we trespass Warren and do that,

3252
03:39:51,788 --> 03:39:55,788
that backend, because it is private property. But somewhere is

3253
03:39:55,788 --> 03:39:58,428
over now, so weekday shouldn't be an issue. I know

3254
03:39:58,609 --> 03:40:01,388
on Friday and Saturdays, usually some units there. I assume

3255
03:40:01,428 --> 03:40:04,028
those are overtime. Those are off duties that are hired

3256
03:40:04,068 --> 03:40:06,988
by the Grand Company. But those are only on Fridays

3257
03:40:07,009 --> 03:40:09,468
and Saturdays? Fridays and Saturdays, correct. And so in the

3258
03:40:09,468 --> 03:40:13,468
summer, we have a bigger footprint. So it turns out

3259
03:40:13,508 --> 03:40:16,348
to be more officers on Friday, Saturdays and they add

3260
03:40:16,449 --> 03:40:20,348
Sundays during the summer. We do that also during spring

3261
03:40:20,348 --> 03:40:23,068
break. So winter break, those are times when the kids

3262
03:40:23,068 --> 03:40:26,748
are out of school, obviously, you know, obviously they support

3263
03:40:26,849 --> 03:40:29,628
us in that end. And it obviously helps a lot.

3264
03:40:29,628 --> 03:40:32,828
Um, unfortunately enough, it's like, it's the same thing. It's

3265
03:40:32,828 --> 03:40:36,748
like the footprint typically concentrates itself on the main portion

3266
03:40:36,748 --> 03:40:40,428
of Main Street itself. And I have to obviously, you

3267
03:40:40,428 --> 03:40:42,668
know, send my guys over to like the Park at

3268
03:40:42,708 --> 03:40:45,708
Milowak, et cetera, because obviously when we start giving them

3269
03:40:45,748 --> 03:40:47,308
a hard time that they have to leave and they're

3270
03:40:47,409 --> 03:40:50,988
being, you know, pushed out, they just scattered to other,

3271
03:40:50,988 --> 03:40:54,588
to other locations. And so it's, you know, it's just

3272
03:40:54,588 --> 03:40:55,788
kind of like a kind of mouse game with them

3273
03:40:55,809 --> 03:40:58,416
the entire time. Okay. Perfect. Just want to get some

3274
03:40:58,456 --> 03:41:02,256
details on that. Thank you. You're welcome. Any other comments.

3275
03:41:02,256 --> 03:41:07,136
Just, you know, great job on getting the statue back.

3276
03:41:07,136 --> 03:41:09,696
I know, like he said, I thought it was gone.

3277
03:41:09,696 --> 03:41:13,856
Um, and I think I saw some of our detectives

3278
03:41:13,877 --> 03:41:17,656
were involved directly and figuring out where it was, as

3279
03:41:17,656 --> 03:41:20,736
well as accumulating all the tips and all that stuff.

3280
03:41:20,736 --> 03:41:22,176
So, you know, thank you guys for everything you guys

3281
03:41:22,176 --> 03:41:26,416
done and for the numbers, which still do not lie.

3282
03:41:26,416 --> 03:41:28,016
Uh, thank you. And shows that you guys are doing

3283
03:41:28,016 --> 03:41:30,176
a phenomenal job. Thank you. Thank you so much. All

3284
03:41:30,176 --> 03:41:32,850
right. Have a good evening. Thank you. All righty. We

3285
03:41:32,850 --> 03:41:38,010
are on to 8b Public Works Monthly Infrastructure Report. Director

3286
03:41:38,191 --> 03:41:45,516
Santos. Good evening, Council.

3287
03:41:49,500 --> 03:41:53,879
So I'll go ahead and highlight two items. First one

3288
03:41:54,540 --> 03:41:58,679
is the Miami Lakes Drive Traffic Ops and Feasibility Analysis.

3289
03:41:59,777 --> 03:42:03,676
That report has been completed. The manager distributed to the

3290
03:42:03,697 --> 03:42:06,916
council just to get a quick review. And then we

3291
03:42:06,916 --> 03:42:10,156
plan to, we're planning to bring the consultant to do

3292
03:42:10,156 --> 03:42:14,876
a formal presentation during the next meeting. Just some highlights.

3293
03:42:14,876 --> 03:42:18,476
The consultant concluded that the four options are feasible to

3294
03:42:18,497 --> 03:42:22,904
some point. And they, they do recommend proceeding with the

3295
03:42:22,944 --> 03:42:26,744
next phase of doing a further analysis to determine if

3296
03:42:27,485 --> 03:42:30,667
they are completely feasible to get to a construction. Um,

3297
03:42:30,667 --> 03:42:34,987
but we'll go into more detail as far as the

3298
03:42:35,168 --> 03:42:39,373
findings of the, of the analysis during the presentation. Omar,

3299
03:42:39,373 --> 03:42:41,933
before you leave that item, I just want to talk

3300
03:42:41,954 --> 03:42:44,653
to the council. And I may have mentioned it to

3301
03:42:44,693 --> 03:42:47,973
some of you in our briefings is my intent, as

3302
03:42:47,973 --> 03:42:51,133
long as there's no objection is with that feasibility study

3303
03:42:51,474 --> 03:42:56,413
since it is four different options is to get a

3304
03:42:56,453 --> 03:43:01,293
developer, a field trip with all of the stakeholders, FDOT,

3305
03:43:01,333 --> 03:43:07,353
TPO, Date County Public Works, you, obviously the council, our

3306
03:43:07,394 --> 03:43:12,253
county, uh, elected official, our state officials and get them

3307
03:43:12,293 --> 03:43:16,713
out there so they could see it in person. And

3308
03:43:16,713 --> 03:43:20,413
that way whenever we go to take the eventual hopefully

3309
03:43:20,413 --> 03:43:24,413
next step, which is for asking for assistance with appropriations

3310
03:43:24,754 --> 03:43:28,093
with funding some of these, uh, alternatives that they have

3311
03:43:28,114 --> 03:43:30,253
a much better grasp on what it is that we're

3312
03:43:30,253 --> 03:43:32,953
talking about. So as long as there's no objection, I'm

3313
03:43:32,953 --> 03:43:38,832
going to start working towards that, uh, that end. Okay.

3314
03:43:38,853 --> 03:43:42,572
The next one would be our 59 52 project. Our

3315
03:43:42,572 --> 03:43:46,032
consultant has already responded to FDOT comments. We're waiting for

3316
03:43:46,773 --> 03:43:48,752
the feedback on that. So yeah, we can close out

3317
03:43:49,013 --> 03:43:52,032
this review phase. And the same has occurred for the

3318
03:43:52,293 --> 03:43:56,672
county DTPW reviews. Uh, those have been uploaded into the

3319
03:43:56,712 --> 03:43:59,232
portals and we're currently waiting for feedback to see if

3320
03:43:59,232 --> 03:44:02,512
we could wrap up this phasing continuing to our 90

3321
03:44:02,552 --> 03:44:05,473
percent. And then the last project I would like to

3322
03:44:05,513 --> 03:44:07,953
highlight is like I did last time as our Park

3323
03:44:07,953 --> 03:44:11,713
West, we've completed our negotiation face of the CEI and

3324
03:44:11,713 --> 03:44:15,953
currently in the process of getting the contract executed to

3325
03:44:15,953 --> 03:44:19,033
begin construction soon when the next few months. And that's

3326
03:44:19,033 --> 03:44:24,149
it. Comments questions through the chair. Councilman Fernandez. It's not

3327
03:44:24,189 --> 03:44:27,149
a common related to anything that you brought up. I

3328
03:44:27,149 --> 03:44:29,669
just wanted to state this on the record that I

3329
03:44:29,770 --> 03:44:32,789
got a phone call from a resident in Royal Oaks

3330
03:44:33,210 --> 03:44:37,789
where he reported Sinkhole in front of his house, or

3331
03:44:37,789 --> 03:44:40,549
at least something that could be developing. Um, I brought

3332
03:44:40,570 --> 03:44:44,149
it up to O Morrent Santos as well. I copied

3333
03:44:44,250 --> 03:44:47,909
the manager. And I'm not, I'm not even not exaggerating,

3334
03:44:47,909 --> 03:44:51,749
but an hour maybe within an hour, I happen to

3335
03:44:51,789 --> 03:44:54,149
drive by. I wanted to see whether it was present

3336
03:44:54,189 --> 03:44:57,669
from the 82nd Avenue. And there was already a cone

3337
03:44:59,370 --> 03:45:02,469
placed on where the supposed sinkhole is. So it was

3338
03:45:02,509 --> 03:45:06,069
just addressed immediately. And I think that that shows the

3339
03:45:06,090 --> 03:45:10,251
staff and specifically you, the great job you're doing. Thank

3340
03:45:10,251 --> 03:45:14,243
you. Councilman Quadra Garcia. I don't know. It's for public

3341
03:45:14,264 --> 03:45:18,883
works, but I sent a pictures to our town manager

3342
03:45:18,923 --> 03:45:24,723
this morning reference to how the area over at advanced

3343
03:45:24,744 --> 03:45:28,883
auto part area starting to look. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Manager,

3344
03:45:28,883 --> 03:45:30,723
did you see them? He started to look like a

3345
03:45:30,824 --> 03:45:33,896
pig pen over there. Yes. Really bad. That wouldn't be

3346
03:45:34,077 --> 03:45:37,736
Public Works. That would be code enforcement. But would you,

3347
03:45:37,736 --> 03:45:40,776
uh, look into that, please? Yes. Thank you. But now

3348
03:45:40,776 --> 03:45:44,821
that I've got, uh, the director here. Where we at

3349
03:45:45,002 --> 03:45:50,047
with, uh, my baby, the canal. So like I mentioned,

3350
03:45:50,047 --> 03:45:53,247
we are in the process of developing NITB, which was

3351
03:45:53,428 --> 03:45:59,552
the, I guess, the consensus during our last discussions. So

3352
03:46:01,733 --> 03:46:04,832
to get a contract for repair and maintenance. And then

3353
03:46:04,832 --> 03:46:07,872
we would budget, which we already, already made a note

3354
03:46:07,893 --> 03:46:10,272
to have in our allocation and repair at maintenance budget.

3355
03:46:10,984 --> 03:46:15,294
To do repairs on the canal bank. Okay. So basically

3356
03:46:15,955 --> 03:46:18,014
let's say we approve the budget and all the good

3357
03:46:18,014 --> 03:46:21,534
stuff. What warranty, what warranty are we going to get.

3358
03:46:22,879 --> 03:46:25,098
Are we going to get a great warranty? So part

3359
03:46:25,098 --> 03:46:28,438
of the repair would be a documentation of findings. And

3360
03:46:28,639 --> 03:46:32,218
that we would determine if the cost for action against

3361
03:46:32,258 --> 03:46:35,578
the warranty. And okay. No, but if we do decide

3362
03:46:35,618 --> 03:46:39,418
to do the maintenance that you're stating that are we

3363
03:46:39,418 --> 03:46:41,258
going to have a better warranty than the one that

3364
03:46:41,258 --> 03:46:45,658
we have now, typically the standard warranty on labor and

3365
03:46:45,658 --> 03:46:50,685
materials of the year. So. Okay. So we're working. We're

3366
03:46:50,706 --> 03:46:56,781
working on it. Yes. Thank you. Um, vice Mayor. Bounceman

3367
03:46:56,781 --> 03:46:58,701
Hermit. I guess let me clear up. So I make

3368
03:46:58,701 --> 03:47:02,461
sure I'm the same page. Maintenance there usually isn't a

3369
03:47:02,461 --> 03:47:05,101
warranty on the maintenance. Right. We're just repairing it or

3370
03:47:05,141 --> 03:47:08,301
we're getting a contractor to make actual repairs that they

3371
03:47:08,341 --> 03:47:11,981
would then warrant for a year. Yes. It's like our,

3372
03:47:12,021 --> 03:47:16,141
our, our roadway contract. If they have the patches that

3373
03:47:16,181 --> 03:47:18,461
we've done in several areas, so that fails within a

3374
03:47:18,461 --> 03:47:20,461
year, we will go look at it. It's a due

3375
03:47:20,642 --> 03:47:23,785
to the workmanship or the material that they use. So

3376
03:47:23,825 --> 03:47:26,025
then we request for them to replace it. If it's

3377
03:47:26,025 --> 03:47:27,705
not, if it's a truck fell on it, then it's

3378
03:47:27,705 --> 03:47:31,305
something different. Right. So, so the, the actual areas of

3379
03:47:31,305 --> 03:47:35,065
the canal bank that are repaired, replaced, repaired. Those would

3380
03:47:35,065 --> 03:47:39,385
be under a year warranty. And of course, of course,

3381
03:47:39,425 --> 03:47:41,785
it depends on how it's used. And the funding for

3382
03:47:42,046 --> 03:47:44,985
the maintenance comes from stormwater, right? Stormwater, correct. Okay. Perfect.

3383
03:47:44,985 --> 03:47:47,465
So you got a year to look at them, right?

3384
03:47:47,465 --> 03:47:49,305
To make sure they're doing a good job. Got it.

3385
03:47:49,305 --> 03:47:53,333
Thank you. When we actually get started, let me take

3386
03:47:53,434 --> 03:47:58,613
one more privilege. Give me one second, Target. And it's,

3387
03:47:58,613 --> 03:48:04,543
I just don't recall. Voting in favor of the repair

3388
03:48:04,564 --> 03:48:07,183
part. I remember, yeah, the maintenance. Yeah. Obviously we maintain

3389
03:48:07,223 --> 03:48:10,943
what's ours. But I don't remember voting for the, like

3390
03:48:10,983 --> 03:48:15,503
the piece by piece. I remember me moving, uh, the

3391
03:48:15,543 --> 03:48:19,025
canal bank stabilization project. And then getting voted down, including

3392
03:48:19,206 --> 03:48:22,625
by Councilman Clarcia. So like that's what I just remember

3393
03:48:22,726 --> 03:48:25,585
that getting shut down. So, so what project are we

3394
03:48:25,585 --> 03:48:28,385
doing here? So it's not a project. So there was

3395
03:48:28,385 --> 03:48:30,945
an extensive discussion. And at the end, the agreement was

3396
03:48:30,966 --> 03:48:33,585
we have to do something. So one of the things

3397
03:48:33,625 --> 03:48:36,545
I mentioned was we can do an invitation to bid

3398
03:48:36,726 --> 03:48:41,265
to have a, uh, on an ass needed basis repairing

3399
03:48:41,286 --> 03:48:45,025
maintenance contract. Similar to how we have in the roadway.

3400
03:48:45,025 --> 03:48:47,585
My understanding that the agreement was yes, let's proceed with

3401
03:48:47,625 --> 03:48:51,025
that. And then we would budget to determine when it

3402
03:48:51,025 --> 03:48:55,967
becomes needed. Well, we know the need for repair now.

3403
03:48:55,967 --> 03:48:58,447
So we'll have that just add up to more than

3404
03:48:58,788 --> 03:49:02,285
whatever was the proposal that got shot down. Over time.

3405
03:49:02,869 --> 03:49:06,751
No. If I may. So the numbers were there. I

3406
03:49:06,791 --> 03:49:09,631
remember one number is like 700, 000. Another one number

3407
03:49:09,652 --> 03:49:11,151
was about a hundred thousand a year or something like

3408
03:49:11,151 --> 03:49:13,391
that. That was your estimate. That was an all -

3409
03:49:13,391 --> 03:49:16,329
in approach. The 700 was all in. Yes. So this

3410
03:49:16,329 --> 03:49:18,329
would be on an ass needed basis. So we would

3411
03:49:18,369 --> 03:49:22,851
determine based on what is approved. The budget every year.

3412
03:49:22,851 --> 03:49:25,571
Like priority, this is what needs to be repaired first.

3413
03:49:25,571 --> 03:49:27,491
And here's your hundred thousand. I mean, for all I

3414
03:49:27,531 --> 03:49:28,851
know, you might run out of the money in the

3415
03:49:28,891 --> 03:49:32,211
first three months based off the condition. We would do

3416
03:49:32,211 --> 03:49:33,651
it in sections. We'll say if we only have enough

3417
03:49:33,691 --> 03:49:35,731
to do the first 30 feet, we'll do the first

3418
03:49:35,752 --> 03:49:37,491
30 feet. So I guess right now we don't even

3419
03:49:37,491 --> 03:49:40,451
have this item budgeted. We would be budgeting it in

3420
03:49:40,451 --> 03:49:42,851
this fiscal year now. Right. And but in stormwater. Yes.

3421
03:49:42,952 --> 03:49:50,687
Out of stormwater. Okay. All right. Councilman Gladiator Garcia. What

3422
03:49:50,788 --> 03:49:53,607
does it cost us every time we do, I don't

3423
03:49:53,607 --> 03:49:56,847
know if you call it flag or a piece of

3424
03:49:56,948 --> 03:50:00,447
concrete. I think some people call it a flag. Some

3425
03:50:00,447 --> 03:50:03,737
call it a slab. So every time we do a

3426
03:50:03,918 --> 03:50:08,857
slab because a root is lifting it up. What are

3427
03:50:08,857 --> 03:50:14,132
we roughly pay whatever contractor. I'm going to hit you

3428
03:50:14,132 --> 03:50:18,367
with some numbers of Yahweh Calculator pull it up. Heach

3429
03:50:18,407 --> 03:50:22,687
five by five flag is about 2. 78 square yards.

3430
03:50:22,687 --> 03:50:25,807
I think right now our contract don't quote me on

3431
03:50:25,807 --> 03:50:28,607
this. But well, quote me for now, but I'll double

3432
03:50:28,607 --> 03:50:31,487
check. Thing is around 55 dollars a square yard plus

3433
03:50:31,527 --> 03:50:34,027
a 10 percent mobilization fee. So from that you can

3434
03:50:34,068 --> 03:50:38,910
get your Pur flag cost. Okay. No, it's not too

3435
03:50:38,950 --> 03:50:46,750
dollar per square foot flag. Five by five per five

3436
03:50:46,750 --> 03:50:49,390
by five. But these are these flags are not five

3437
03:50:49,390 --> 03:50:53,150
by five. The typical ones are yes. The residential ones.

3438
03:50:53,150 --> 03:50:55,390
The only ones you get bigger are like commerce way.

3439
03:50:55,390 --> 03:50:58,199
Miami Lake where you get some bigger ones. That's super

3440
03:50:58,239 --> 03:51:01,484
cheap. Okay. All I can tell you is that I'm

3441
03:51:01,484 --> 03:51:03,564
up. Okay. So all I can tell you is that

3442
03:51:04,305 --> 03:51:06,604
there's a lot of them that are being done and

3443
03:51:06,625 --> 03:51:11,884
they're not even a year old and they're cracking. They're

3444
03:51:11,884 --> 03:51:15,724
lifting up because the roots are doing it again. We're

3445
03:51:15,745 --> 03:51:19,324
not putting root barriers. So we're going to be talking

3446
03:51:19,324 --> 03:51:22,444
about those root berries real soon again. But have you

3447
03:51:22,484 --> 03:51:24,364
recall, I don't know if you were a council member

3448
03:51:24,385 --> 03:51:27,644
by them, but we discussed this in several meetings in

3449
03:51:27,644 --> 03:51:31,524
the past. Depending on the size of the tree, we

3450
03:51:31,524 --> 03:51:34,884
may not be able to install a root barrier. And

3451
03:51:34,924 --> 03:51:37,524
that's something we can discuss later. I'm going to more

3452
03:51:37,564 --> 03:51:39,444
detail instead of, you know, taking over the time here.

3453
03:51:39,444 --> 03:51:42,164
But if you want, we can discuss that later. Beautiful.

3454
03:51:42,585 --> 03:51:46,404
Um, like Councilman Fernandez, my point is not really one

3455
03:51:46,404 --> 03:51:49,764
of the things that are mentioned here. And you can

3456
03:51:49,785 --> 03:51:53,444
feel free to keep your answers brief as you want.

3457
03:51:53,444 --> 03:51:56,324
And we can discuss it more offline. But it's something

3458
03:51:56,364 --> 03:51:59,764
you said earlier about the options on Miami Lakes drive

3459
03:51:59,865 --> 03:52:01,884
kind of just jog my memory. That time that we

3460
03:52:01,884 --> 03:52:06,964
met and discussed the whole AI timing thing with the

3461
03:52:07,385 --> 03:52:10,292
synchronization of the lights. The last I heard about that

3462
03:52:10,713 --> 03:52:13,412
was like a while ago. And we were still waiting

3463
03:52:13,513 --> 03:52:16,292
to hear back on some permits from Miami Dade County.

3464
03:52:16,292 --> 03:52:19,172
What has happened since then? Has it finally gone active?

3465
03:52:19,172 --> 03:52:21,412
What's going on? So since then the county, we had

3466
03:52:21,412 --> 03:52:24,362
to do some leg work on our end. The county

3467
03:52:24,402 --> 03:52:27,882
has approved our documentation. And the final part is for

3468
03:52:27,922 --> 03:52:31,802
the contractor to schedule an inspection on site with the

3469
03:52:31,823 --> 03:52:35,602
Miami - Dade County inspector. They'll close our permit. As

3470
03:52:35,602 --> 03:52:39,882
far as that portion going live, that is something the

3471
03:52:39,903 --> 03:52:45,016
county would work on. I know they've been upgrading the

3472
03:52:45,277 --> 03:52:51,468
cabinets with new hardware. You know, I don't know if

3473
03:52:51,849 --> 03:52:53,908
the ultimate goal is to get that live in the

3474
03:52:53,908 --> 03:52:55,908
Miami - Lex area, but they haven't working on upgrades

3475
03:52:55,929 --> 03:53:01,016
to the system. Does that, when you say the hardware?

3476
03:53:01,016 --> 03:53:04,056
Does that mean essentially that whatever we paid for as

3477
03:53:04,096 --> 03:53:07,336
a town, the whole AI thing was basically just a

3478
03:53:07,336 --> 03:53:09,736
waste or is not a hundred percent? Well, not a

3479
03:53:09,736 --> 03:53:11,656
hundred percent. That's what I'm not understanding. Yeah. Some of

3480
03:53:11,656 --> 03:53:13,416
the things we did understand what exactly we paid for

3481
03:53:14,397 --> 03:53:16,696
and what's going to happen when it goes active and

3482
03:53:16,717 --> 03:53:19,021
will it ever go active. That I would have to

3483
03:53:19,061 --> 03:53:24,141
get the answer about the adaptive civilization. That's what you're

3484
03:53:24,141 --> 03:53:27,101
talking about. But other things that the town worked on

3485
03:53:27,202 --> 03:53:29,181
were the cameras that are currently be used by police.

3486
03:53:29,501 --> 03:53:32,440
I don't see those being taken out by the county

3487
03:53:32,480 --> 03:53:34,200
as part of the work they're doing now. And they

3488
03:53:34,240 --> 03:53:39,320
are being used. Okay. Alrighty. Any other questions? Go ahead.

3489
03:53:41,707 --> 03:53:46,251
Keep it. Short. Coming from my house on 79th, going

3490
03:53:46,352 --> 03:53:52,171
towards 154th Street. You've got the hotel there. I call

3491
03:53:52,171 --> 03:53:57,904
it the Motel. What's it called? The kinta. I called

3492
03:53:57,904 --> 03:54:00,224
it the Kinta Motel. Right there, when you get to

3493
03:54:00,264 --> 03:54:04,071
the light. To make a left, it doesn't even give

3494
03:54:04,092 --> 03:54:07,080
you a minute. To be able to make a left.

3495
03:54:08,224 --> 03:54:10,603
And it just backs up there. What is going on?

3496
03:54:11,104 --> 03:54:13,083
Isn't Eli supposed to give you at least a minute

3497
03:54:13,344 --> 03:54:16,134
for cars to be able to turn. That would be

3498
03:54:16,134 --> 03:54:19,174
up to the county traffic timing engineer to determine what's

3499
03:54:19,275 --> 03:54:24,622
appropriate timing for those movements. And it may change on

3500
03:54:24,662 --> 03:54:28,302
the time of the day. Rush hour, uh, midday and

3501
03:54:28,302 --> 03:54:32,942
afternoon rush hour, it changes. Uh, JC, you live Councilor

3502
03:54:32,942 --> 03:54:35,662
McJ. You live in my, have you experienced the same

3503
03:54:35,683 --> 03:54:39,863
issue. Make it rough, but I think that it's not

3504
03:54:40,044 --> 03:54:43,623
really through the town that makes those moves on the

3505
03:54:43,644 --> 03:54:46,103
timing. I think it has to do with the county.

3506
03:54:46,103 --> 03:54:49,623
So if they're having an issue, which we sometimes I

3507
03:54:49,623 --> 03:54:52,103
feel it, sometimes I don't. It depends on the time

3508
03:54:52,103 --> 03:54:54,583
of day. But, uh, but I think we got to

3509
03:54:54,583 --> 03:54:56,823
take that up with the county. It's early in the

3510
03:54:56,823 --> 03:55:00,983
morning. I've had the residents. Tell me. Sorry to interrupt,

3511
03:55:00,983 --> 03:55:01,943
but that's what I was going to mention. Have you

3512
03:55:01,983 --> 03:55:04,423
ever specific time? We could always send the questions to

3513
03:55:04,423 --> 03:55:07,303
the county. So, I mean, the specific time is always

3514
03:55:07,324 --> 03:55:10,183
because when I'm driving a nine, 10 o'clock at night,

3515
03:55:10,364 --> 03:55:14,023
it just makes no sense. Obviously in the morning we

3516
03:55:14,044 --> 03:55:16,583
hear from residents a lot, I'm thankfully avoid that area

3517
03:55:16,604 --> 03:55:20,823
in the morning. But I think on the Saturday at

3518
03:55:20,844 --> 03:55:23,383
10. 30 at night, I get off, I get a

3519
03:55:23,383 --> 03:55:25,063
ride, it goes too green, then it's red again. It

3520
03:55:25,164 --> 03:55:28,103
makes zero sense. I mean, in my opinion, there's been

3521
03:55:28,604 --> 03:55:33,063
absolutely monkey is deciding the timing change because nothing makes

3522
03:55:33,103 --> 03:55:37,143
sense. And I feel like it's different every single day.

3523
03:55:37,164 --> 03:55:40,263
I know it's not, but it just, it doesn't make

3524
03:55:40,284 --> 03:55:42,983
any sense. And I would love for there just to

3525
03:55:42,983 --> 03:55:45,343
be, I like that at night when they used to

3526
03:55:45,343 --> 03:55:47,463
turn the lights off. I don't know why Dake County

3527
03:55:47,463 --> 03:55:49,863
stopped doing that. I guess it was a safety thing.

3528
03:55:49,863 --> 03:55:51,943
It made a lot of sense. Yeah. That was great.

3529
03:55:51,943 --> 03:55:54,583
I mean, I feel like it, the few lights in

3530
03:55:54,583 --> 03:55:57,063
town that do it, but not many. Most lights stay

3531
03:55:57,063 --> 03:55:58,803
on. I don't know why the need for a lot

3532
03:55:58,803 --> 03:56:02,503
of these stoplights at night. But I would love to

3533
03:56:02,543 --> 03:56:05,303
just, how do we see, isn't there like, can't we

3534
03:56:05,303 --> 03:56:08,103
ask the county for like, this is the current signalization

3535
03:56:08,124 --> 03:56:10,703
plan? Or is it just random, like I think it

3536
03:56:10,703 --> 03:56:15,657
is. A question. Is there a way for the town

3537
03:56:16,798 --> 03:56:20,057
through the manager to ask the county, like, what is

3538
03:56:20,078 --> 03:56:25,542
their plan. For this? There's got to be a number.

3539
03:56:25,542 --> 03:56:27,942
Oh, what's the setup? Right. It's got something that says

3540
03:56:29,163 --> 03:56:30,982
seven and nine. This is what the timing is between

3541
03:56:31,163 --> 03:56:33,302
10 and 12. I would love to just see that

3542
03:56:33,483 --> 03:56:36,342
and then say, well, this doesn't make sense. Is you

3543
03:56:36,382 --> 03:56:39,942
just going back to the both items, the concerns specifically

3544
03:56:39,942 --> 03:56:43,382
to the 795 new intersection or just that entire? It's

3545
03:56:43,382 --> 03:56:44,822
a whole thing. In my opinion. I'm going to ask

3546
03:56:45,163 --> 03:56:48,022
this last question and then I think we really should

3547
03:56:48,062 --> 03:56:52,742
just move this into a sunshine, honestly. Because I think

3548
03:56:52,763 --> 03:56:57,542
this is actually a very prudent discussion. Um, and it's,

3549
03:56:57,542 --> 03:56:59,942
could something be done sort of like what was done

3550
03:56:59,942 --> 03:57:04,262
with the speed bumps where maybe the town, sorry, the

3551
03:57:04,262 --> 03:57:07,302
county relinquishes that very tight grasp that they have over

3552
03:57:07,323 --> 03:57:10,742
the signals and allows us to do it under certain

3553
03:57:10,763 --> 03:57:13,302
criteria. The way it is with the speed bones where

3554
03:57:13,723 --> 03:57:16,022
we don't have free reign to its stall speed bunts

3555
03:57:16,022 --> 03:57:18,062
wherever we want. We have to do the study. We

3556
03:57:18,062 --> 03:57:21,142
have to meet all the criteria as the manager said

3557
03:57:21,182 --> 03:57:24,262
earlier about, uh, I forgot which street it was met

3558
03:57:24,283 --> 03:57:27,302
the criteria for it. And if it doesn't, then, then

3559
03:57:27,323 --> 03:57:30,102
we can't do it without the county's approval. Can we

3560
03:57:30,102 --> 03:57:34,182
have something like that with this? My initial thought is

3561
03:57:34,523 --> 03:57:37,268
no but. We can always ask a question, but the

3562
03:57:37,268 --> 03:57:40,548
reason I would say no, it's because that is equipment.

3563
03:57:40,548 --> 03:57:43,668
A software system that they manage internally. So that was

3564
03:57:43,668 --> 03:57:49,108
essentially mean they would give the town authority to access

3565
03:57:49,108 --> 03:57:52,548
their system to control the lights within the town. And

3566
03:57:52,548 --> 03:57:55,668
then we wouldn't know how that impacts traffic coming from

3567
03:57:55,769 --> 03:57:59,428
IA type of. So that's the difficulty. And that's why

3568
03:57:59,609 --> 03:58:05,828
they, they maintained this umbrella coverage or authority. I think

3569
03:58:05,868 --> 03:58:07,508
that it's a fruitful discussion to be able to do

3570
03:58:08,249 --> 03:58:11,508
make the ask, right? Uh, like if they say no,

3571
03:58:11,508 --> 03:58:13,668
they say no, but, but I think that that you're

3572
03:58:13,668 --> 03:58:16,228
saying about the concern about how it affects highalio or

3573
03:58:16,249 --> 03:58:18,308
unincorporated data or whatever. I think that that's where the

3574
03:58:18,489 --> 03:58:21,268
criteria come in. Obviously we cannot set all of our

3575
03:58:21,369 --> 03:58:24,388
lights to permanent green so that we're just jamming up

3576
03:58:24,409 --> 03:58:28,388
all of Hyalea streets, obviously. There has to be as

3577
03:58:28,388 --> 03:58:31,268
great as that would be just getting, but, but at

3578
03:58:31,268 --> 03:58:33,188
the end of the day, we can ask. And if

3579
03:58:33,228 --> 03:58:35,748
they say no, we say no. And we, and we

3580
03:58:35,748 --> 03:58:38,948
move on. All right. Thank you, Director Santos. Anything else

3581
03:58:38,988 --> 03:58:43,883
from your report. No? No. All righty. Connect. Well, the

3582
03:58:43,883 --> 03:58:47,263
mayor's back, but we're on to the next manager's report,

3583
03:58:47,263 --> 03:58:50,783
which is the chamber display and dias presentation AV enhancements.

3584
03:58:52,782 --> 03:58:55,881
Mr. Cure, welcome back to the podium. It's been a

3585
03:58:55,881 --> 03:58:55,961
minute.

3586
03:59:05,884 --> 03:59:10,023
Very nice. Yeah. It goes hard to find something like

3587
03:59:10,364 --> 03:59:15,145
what's good. Uh, Goodybring Council member, staff. Member of the

3588
03:59:15,346 --> 03:59:18,765
Public, uh, this is Herman Cure, Technology Officer for the

3589
03:59:18,765 --> 03:59:22,845
Etano Miami Leaks. Before you, uh, is the report that

3590
03:59:22,885 --> 03:59:26,605
provides modern upgrade options and codes estimates for improving visibility

3591
03:59:27,106 --> 03:59:31,165
presentation capabilities. And there were all meeting experience within the

3592
03:59:31,205 --> 03:59:35,767
council chambers. These reports followed in 16C from the May

3593
03:59:35,948 --> 03:59:41,609
agenda presented by councilmember Garcia. During the discussion of that

3594
03:59:41,609 --> 03:59:45,209
item, additional input was received from the council members regarding

3595
03:59:45,230 --> 03:59:49,801
opportunities to improve related aspects of the chambers. Including displays

3596
03:59:49,841 --> 03:59:55,184
at the dais and podium. Additional ideas were incorporating this

3597
03:59:55,224 --> 03:59:59,457
report. So that we could evaluate improvements as one comprehensive

3598
03:59:59,718 --> 04:00:03,411
effort. The goal of this report is to provide counsel.

3599
04:00:03,411 --> 04:00:06,691
We're available options and estimated costs to help guide the

3600
04:00:06,712 --> 04:00:10,531
location of funds when they cancel determine it is appropriate.

3601
04:00:12,294 --> 04:00:16,753
So the report is divided in three main areas. Chambers

3602
04:00:16,793 --> 04:00:24,640
display options. Dias display enhancements and podium displays improvements. On

3603
04:00:24,680 --> 04:00:28,160
page one and two, we have a summarize each area.

3604
04:00:29,865 --> 04:00:33,444
Starting with the chamber display options, we evaluated four potential

3605
04:00:34,025 --> 04:00:38,965
approaches. Number one, install TV monitors on each side of

3606
04:00:38,965 --> 04:00:43,371
the seating area behind you. Number two will be installing

3607
04:00:43,472 --> 04:00:46,694
two projectors on each side of the chambers. Which is

3608
04:00:46,795 --> 04:00:51,771
an alternative display solution to the monitors. Number three will

3609
04:00:51,771 --> 04:00:54,999
be installed in three projectors. To projectors on the rear

3610
04:00:55,020 --> 04:00:59,530
wall behind the council. For viewing by the Public and

3611
04:00:59,530 --> 04:01:02,490
one projector facing the AV room to provide display for

3612
04:01:02,671 --> 04:01:06,771
the council members. And the four options is using rolling

3613
04:01:06,811 --> 04:01:14,851
TV displays. Any questions on the first? Through the chair.

3614
04:01:14,851 --> 04:01:17,171
Yeah. Councilman Garcia, but I just want to state for

3615
04:01:17,211 --> 04:01:20,051
all my colleagues. We now have less than an hour

3616
04:01:20,632 --> 04:01:23,151
before we need to start having motions to extend. And

3617
04:01:23,151 --> 04:01:25,491
remember that Purt of Charter, we have a hard cutoff

3618
04:01:25,512 --> 04:01:28,451
at midnight and we still have, uh, a lot to

3619
04:01:28,491 --> 04:01:30,451
cover in the agenda. So let's just keep our, our

3620
04:01:30,491 --> 04:01:33,651
discussions brief and to the point. Councilman Garcia. Thank you

3621
04:01:33,832 --> 04:01:36,051
Mayor. And I will be brief. And I, Mont, thank

3622
04:01:36,051 --> 04:01:37,331
you for much for taking the time and doing this.

3623
04:01:39,222 --> 04:01:43,341
I mean, the options look great. What I have an

3624
04:01:43,341 --> 04:01:46,195
incredible trouble with is the price. I'm on the best

3625
04:01:46,296 --> 04:01:49,555
buy website. There's a hundred inch TV for less than

3626
04:01:49,595 --> 04:01:53,786
a thousand dollars. They're correct. Yes. Okay. You have two

3627
04:01:53,807 --> 04:01:59,432
TVs here. That and a rolling cart for 6, 000

3628
04:01:59,432 --> 04:02:02,963
dollars. I don't know where you got that. Those prices

3629
04:02:02,984 --> 04:02:05,043
I love to ask you. But Best Buy is telling

3630
04:02:05,043 --> 04:02:06,883
me I can get a hundred inch TV for a

3631
04:02:06,883 --> 04:02:08,901
thousand bucks. And I'm sure a cart is not more

3632
04:02:08,922 --> 04:02:12,487
than 200 bucks. So if I look at what's on

3633
04:02:12,508 --> 04:02:14,087
Best Buy and what I can get compared to the

3634
04:02:14,127 --> 04:02:17,527
prices. And these are rolling carts which require Wi -

3635
04:02:17,527 --> 04:02:20,407
Fi. No connections. It's 6, 000 dollars. Can you explain

3636
04:02:21,068 --> 04:02:23,367
that the disparity between what I can get at Best

3637
04:02:23,367 --> 04:02:32,748
Buy. And what I get for probably cables or anything

3638
04:02:32,788 --> 04:02:36,908
like that? Where's the disparity and the cost? It varies.

3639
04:02:36,929 --> 04:02:40,908
Yes. You can get from Best Buy from a CW

3640
04:02:41,169 --> 04:02:45,388
from any suppliers. Uh, copro items or things that you

3641
04:02:45,388 --> 04:02:47,668
have to keep in mind, you know, is going to

3642
04:02:47,668 --> 04:02:49,548
be these places are going to be turning on and

3643
04:02:49,588 --> 04:02:51,628
off. You're going to be stay on for a long

3644
04:02:51,628 --> 04:02:56,268
time. Uh, number of output or input that you need.

3645
04:02:56,268 --> 04:03:02,108
So yes, you might find something, no really good feed

3646
04:03:02,148 --> 04:03:05,388
for the town. Probably 2000 dollars will be more in

3647
04:03:05,428 --> 04:03:09,708
range of what we'll require. So of course if the

3648
04:03:09,708 --> 04:03:12,028
decision is made, we will look for the best price,

3649
04:03:12,028 --> 04:03:14,428
but this is like an overall. Also one thing that

3650
04:03:14,609 --> 04:03:18,108
drives a lot is technology is very in a lot.

3651
04:03:18,108 --> 04:03:20,188
So I can say a thousand dollars now with a

3652
04:03:20,188 --> 04:03:21,388
time that I'm going to place the order is going

3653
04:03:21,388 --> 04:03:24,668
to be 1500. So 2007 within this is a very

3654
04:03:24,708 --> 04:03:29,148
conservative numbers. And rolling cards. Yes. Again, you can find

3655
04:03:29,249 --> 04:03:32,863
some very sturdy. Something cheaply made. So at the Initiative

3656
04:03:32,884 --> 04:03:35,451
number that we have in there. You're telling me that

3657
04:03:35,952 --> 04:03:39,611
6, 000 dollars for 200 inch TVs and two cards.

3658
04:03:39,611 --> 04:03:43,371
6, 000 dollar is a conservative number. Yes. You have

3659
04:03:43,411 --> 04:03:46,731
to, uh, run some maybe electrical. We have to find

3660
04:03:46,771 --> 04:03:51,990
it. We have an outlist close by. So, okay. One

3661
04:03:51,990 --> 04:03:55,030
more question. Sorry, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Because I think this

3662
04:03:55,051 --> 04:03:57,650
is an eye opener to all of us here. And

3663
04:03:57,771 --> 04:04:00,390
no disrespect because I know this is your, you're an

3664
04:04:00,390 --> 04:04:02,647
expert. You're just me in this. The whole point of

3665
04:04:02,668 --> 04:04:06,087
my item was to help the audience. You saw today

3666
04:04:06,588 --> 04:04:09,287
they had to be looking sideways and backwards. Right. And

3667
04:04:09,287 --> 04:04:11,687
that's very uncomfortable, especially if you're a senior, you have

3668
04:04:11,727 --> 04:04:14,769
problems with your neck. So I'm willing just to do

3669
04:04:14,769 --> 04:04:17,129
that little, um, you know, the rolling cards or for

3670
04:04:17,129 --> 04:04:20,489
the presenters, that little arm with a 22 inch thing.

3671
04:04:20,489 --> 04:04:21,849
So they can see what they're doing here in the

3672
04:04:21,849 --> 04:04:23,929
podium. Yeah. The cost for that is a thousand dollars.

3673
04:04:28,645 --> 04:04:31,904
With an arm is a thousand dollars. Just the money

3674
04:04:31,925 --> 04:04:35,024
throws himself. It could be 600 dollars more or less.

3675
04:04:35,024 --> 04:04:36,464
And then you have to add the labor. How can

3676
04:04:36,645 --> 04:04:40,544
a 22 inch monitor cost 600 dollars when a hundred

3677
04:04:40,544 --> 04:04:44,944
inch monitor cost? I'm just maybe because I'm not into

3678
04:04:44,984 --> 04:04:50,224
that. But again, electronics, the wiring. You have wiring installation

3679
04:04:50,325 --> 04:04:53,824
and cabling 21, 000 almost two thirds of the cost

3680
04:04:53,824 --> 04:04:57,264
of the actual upgrades. If we put two screens which

3681
04:04:57,264 --> 04:05:01,364
are projectors up here. Yes. We can get a local

3682
04:05:01,705 --> 04:05:03,444
AV guy from Best Buy to come on. This is

3683
04:05:03,484 --> 04:05:06,564
a local AB guy. What drives the most of the

3684
04:05:06,745 --> 04:05:10,724
calls on this installation? Hardware is a small percentage. Labor

3685
04:05:10,764 --> 04:05:13,284
is the big ticket admin here. If you see this

3686
04:05:13,324 --> 04:05:19,444
building, when it was constructor, usually fine in new construction

3687
04:05:19,545 --> 04:05:23,124
that you are forcing the future expansion. So all these

3688
04:05:23,124 --> 04:05:25,844
cable has to be run. It's a pretty high building.

3689
04:05:25,844 --> 04:05:28,404
Uh, you have maybe a lifter or two. And you

3690
04:05:28,404 --> 04:05:30,724
have to run all the warnings from here all the

3691
04:05:30,724 --> 04:05:32,644
way back to the other room. And that includes also

3692
04:05:33,385 --> 04:05:37,364
electricity and everything cabling and anything related to the AV

3693
04:05:37,404 --> 04:05:41,524
connection. Okay. What I would ask is obviously we're not

3694
04:05:41,524 --> 04:05:43,943
going to spend all that money. But I honestly think

3695
04:05:43,983 --> 04:05:48,103
that this is way, way out of line of costs

3696
04:05:48,604 --> 04:05:50,403
that, I mean, honestly, I know what you're saying, but

3697
04:05:51,164 --> 04:05:55,783
two hundred inch televisions on two, what was it, two

3698
04:05:55,823 --> 04:05:58,023
cards? Roaring cards, yes. Man, that shouldn't be more than

3699
04:05:58,044 --> 04:06:01,863
two grand. And I think that, you know, I can't,

3700
04:06:02,204 --> 04:06:04,583
we need this here. But even that, even that little

3701
04:06:04,623 --> 04:06:07,976
arm with the 22 inch, I'm sorry, man. What if

3702
04:06:08,237 --> 04:06:10,296
I go by a 22 inch TV with an arm

3703
04:06:11,677 --> 04:06:13,816
and get it for 400 bucks? Would you install it?

3704
04:06:13,837 --> 04:06:18,067
Of course. So if I can do it, that's what.

3705
04:06:18,067 --> 04:06:21,187
No, if you find it, yes. Yeah. I just found

3706
04:06:21,227 --> 04:06:22,627
our best spot. I'm just saying guys. I'm a little

3707
04:06:22,627 --> 04:06:25,747
frustrated with the exaggerated cost. There has to be local

3708
04:06:26,008 --> 04:06:30,627
construction guy, electrolectrical guy that'll give us a better price

3709
04:06:30,968 --> 04:06:35,347
than almost 25, 000 dollars, 21, 000 dollars for installation.

3710
04:06:36,242 --> 04:06:39,821
Now when the building was built, and this wasn't considered

3711
04:06:40,562 --> 04:06:43,901
possible future AV conduits or anything like that, was it

3712
04:06:43,901 --> 04:06:46,141
put in? No, that's what I'm saying that everything has

3713
04:06:46,141 --> 04:06:49,217
to be built for a scratch. Okay. I don't want

3714
04:06:49,217 --> 04:06:53,612
to waste your time. Guys, my colleagues, is anybody else

3715
04:06:53,713 --> 04:06:57,532
who feels, and I know that this is just way,

3716
04:06:57,633 --> 04:07:00,036
way too much. For stuff that we can get for

3717
04:07:00,137 --> 04:07:05,024
a third to price on the stream. Mr. Mayor, real

3718
04:07:05,024 --> 04:07:07,744
quick, I know we're pressed for time. I'll take seconds.

3719
04:07:08,005 --> 04:07:09,824
We're going to go, we're going to go, uh, still

3720
04:07:09,824 --> 04:07:11,904
in order. I'm still, I wasn't trying to say that

3721
04:07:11,944 --> 04:07:14,704
we need to rush like through everything at the speed

3722
04:07:14,704 --> 04:07:16,784
of light, but let's also just be cognizant of how

3723
04:07:16,784 --> 04:07:19,184
much time we're taking. I will come to you now.

3724
04:07:19,184 --> 04:07:20,264
Let's begin with the vice mayor and then we'll go

3725
04:07:20,325 --> 04:07:22,704
to Councillor Quadra Garcia. I don't know if Councilman Hersburg

3726
04:07:22,744 --> 04:07:26,316
had anything to add. Okay. Fine. So we'll after consent

3727
04:07:26,337 --> 04:07:31,234
quadration. Go ahead. I'm not going to, I actually don't

3728
04:07:31,735 --> 04:07:36,274
think the price is that crazy. Um, I've, I've seen

3729
04:07:36,775 --> 04:07:40,354
IT costs before. They do seem that way. Right. To

3730
04:07:40,394 --> 04:07:47,530
the average person. In option one, for example, 14, 464

3731
04:07:47,631 --> 04:07:52,090
dollars out of, uh, out of the, they're charging 17,

3732
04:07:52,591 --> 04:07:58,650
000 for, for, for the hardware plus the AV upgrades

3733
04:07:59,151 --> 04:08:01,850
plus the accessories. What exactly are the AV upgrades and

3734
04:08:01,850 --> 04:08:03,930
the accessories that we're talking about there? That's a good

3735
04:08:03,930 --> 04:08:06,090
question. Uh, if you see how many TVs we have

3736
04:08:06,130 --> 04:08:09,850
here, we have one, two, three here outside, inside the

3737
04:08:09,850 --> 04:08:12,330
room probably have an over two or three. Uh, everything

3738
04:08:12,591 --> 04:08:16,250
that connects to the AV switch is already maxed out.

3739
04:08:16,250 --> 04:08:18,570
So there is a need to fix, I'm sorry, to

3740
04:08:18,570 --> 04:08:24,278
upgrade data AV switch. Okay. So, so my, my experience

3741
04:08:25,739 --> 04:08:28,598
in my own purchasing for like my law firm is

3742
04:08:29,179 --> 04:08:31,798
quality in these kinds of things matters. The last thing

3743
04:08:31,838 --> 04:08:34,118
you want, especially, and personally, I just have to say,

3744
04:08:34,139 --> 04:08:37,478
I don't like the projector option. It is the most

3745
04:08:37,659 --> 04:08:41,158
expensive option. Um, and I just don't like the idea

3746
04:08:41,259 --> 04:08:44,998
of having a projector hung 20 feet down from the

3747
04:08:45,038 --> 04:08:48,598
ceiling. It's just going to look weird. Um, the, the,

3748
04:08:48,598 --> 04:08:52,198
the TV option is far superior. But then now you

3749
04:08:52,198 --> 04:08:57,438
have to wonder if very considerable period of time, it

3750
04:08:57,438 --> 04:09:00,998
is going to literally show something that looks like that.

3751
04:09:00,998 --> 04:09:03,718
Right. Kind of like a placeholder image. The last thing

3752
04:09:03,718 --> 04:09:06,038
you want, you buy a bad quality TV. It's going

3753
04:09:06,038 --> 04:09:09,158
to burn the image into that TV. And it will

3754
04:09:09,198 --> 04:09:13,558
never come off. And then it'll look like bad quality.

3755
04:09:13,598 --> 04:09:15,558
This is one of those areas where I'm just trying

3756
04:09:15,558 --> 04:09:21,555
to say honestly we're not poor. We're really not. And

3757
04:09:21,595 --> 04:09:24,835
I do really appreciate you originally bringing this item up,

3758
04:09:24,835 --> 04:09:27,315
but this is now a council item. And I'll just

3759
04:09:27,315 --> 04:09:28,995
go ahead and do it just to sake of moving

3760
04:09:29,035 --> 04:09:32,115
time. Uh, I'm going to move option one for the

3761
04:09:32,155 --> 04:09:38,429
chamber display. And I'm going to move option. Whoa, option

3762
04:09:38,429 --> 04:09:41,929
one, the only one for the dais display options. And

3763
04:09:41,929 --> 04:09:47,229
I'm going to move the C podium display, alter them.

3764
04:09:48,528 --> 04:09:52,107
All right. Is there a second? Second. It's been seconded

3765
04:09:52,147 --> 04:09:57,947
by, uh, the, uh, by consent member for hand is,

3766
04:09:57,947 --> 04:10:01,067
can you go again now? So option one. Option one,

3767
04:10:01,067 --> 04:10:05,147
which is the two TVs for 30, 000. Okay. Yeah.

3768
04:10:05,168 --> 04:10:07,387
One, one and one. Yeah. In each category. In each

3769
04:10:07,387 --> 04:10:11,547
category. Personally, I'm not crazy though. Even about the TVs.

3770
04:10:11,547 --> 04:10:12,947
I mean, for all the money that we're going to

3771
04:10:12,947 --> 04:10:16,267
spend there, I mean, you know, like, and the truth

3772
04:10:16,267 --> 04:10:19,307
is like, look, even, even I, you know, from here,

3773
04:10:19,307 --> 04:10:20,987
I have that TV right there, you know, I can

3774
04:10:20,987 --> 04:10:23,627
see, you know, what's going on. I mean, to me,

3775
04:10:23,667 --> 04:10:25,867
it just, if it's going to cost as much, we're

3776
04:10:25,867 --> 04:10:27,227
better off just not doing it at all. I mean,

3777
04:10:27,488 --> 04:10:29,307
that's just my two cents, but I understand where you're

3778
04:10:29,307 --> 04:10:30,467
coming from. Like you said, we were just trying to

3779
04:10:30,467 --> 04:10:34,427
move this forward. A constant quadriccia and then councilman's Herzberg.

3780
04:10:34,448 --> 04:10:39,627
Thank you. Um, Hanaman, I know you love this town.

3781
04:10:41,251 --> 04:10:43,710
If we can't do better, if we can't shop and

3782
04:10:43,710 --> 04:10:46,170
get a better deal, I'm going to agree with, uh,

3783
04:10:47,011 --> 04:10:50,590
with the, uh, with a mayor, it's either a better

3784
04:10:50,611 --> 04:10:54,865
deal or nothing. So try, if we're going to have

3785
04:10:54,905 --> 04:10:58,225
it, try to, try to do the negotiation and try

3786
04:10:58,225 --> 04:11:00,505
to get us a little better deal. Of course. We

3787
04:11:00,505 --> 04:11:04,065
always do. Yeah. Thank you. Councilman Herzberg. So, um, I

3788
04:11:04,105 --> 04:11:06,345
don't, I don't, I don't even like option one. I

3789
04:11:06,345 --> 04:11:07,745
don't like the look of it. And I really don't

3790
04:11:07,745 --> 04:11:09,585
think how much we're going to use it. I'm all

3791
04:11:09,625 --> 04:11:12,785
four option four. I think it is a little overpriced.

3792
04:11:12,785 --> 04:11:17,025
I think we would get a decent quality TV, which

3793
04:11:17,025 --> 04:11:22,065
should cost between 1500 dollars each four is a conservative

3794
04:11:22,086 --> 04:11:24,625
number. I agree if you, it's definitely not what I

3795
04:11:24,665 --> 04:11:27,425
would expect the town to spend on it. Uh, but

3796
04:11:27,446 --> 04:11:29,985
I understand, you know, wife sometimes you want to put

3797
04:11:30,166 --> 04:11:34,845
conservative numbers. Uh, but I honestly don't like having, and

3798
04:11:34,845 --> 04:11:36,545
God, we trust a seal, nothing else. I don't want

3799
04:11:36,545 --> 04:11:39,905
to put TVs behind us. I don't see the need.

3800
04:11:39,905 --> 04:11:44,145
How often we go use this for site plan reviews.

3801
04:11:44,185 --> 04:11:47,145
Someone has a presentation. Uh, I don't even see, I

3802
04:11:47,145 --> 04:11:48,865
mean, I have my computer here. I can just log

3803
04:11:48,886 --> 04:11:51,585
on to, uh, wherever I need to go where, where

3804
04:11:51,625 --> 04:11:53,585
the manager can just provide us the PowerPoint ahead of

3805
04:11:53,585 --> 04:11:56,465
time. Right. I do believe, right, no, but I'm, that's

3806
04:11:56,505 --> 04:11:58,305
why I've said, I think option four is good to

3807
04:11:59,126 --> 04:12:01,778
when we need it. You bring it out when you

3808
04:12:01,778 --> 04:12:03,698
don't need it. We don't have it. And then I

3809
04:12:03,879 --> 04:12:05,538
put a hundred percent we got to put something on

3810
04:12:05,538 --> 04:12:09,218
the podium. The people that present to us should have

3811
04:12:09,218 --> 04:12:11,778
that benefit. So do you have an amendment? Yeah. All

3812
04:12:11,818 --> 04:12:14,338
men. I would amend the motion to then go with

3813
04:12:14,679 --> 04:12:17,778
instead of option one, option four, um, I don't believe

3814
04:12:17,799 --> 04:12:22,418
we need any, um, dais visibility. We all have our

3815
04:12:22,418 --> 04:12:25,858
own computers and iPads and then go with, um, the

3816
04:12:25,959 --> 04:12:30,738
podium visibility. So option four for chamber display and option

3817
04:12:30,759 --> 04:12:33,858
one for summary for podium display. I'll second that. It's

3818
04:12:33,898 --> 04:12:35,938
been seconded by council member Garcia. I have a question

3819
04:12:36,039 --> 04:12:40,178
before, uh, we continue though. What are we solving again

3820
04:12:40,279 --> 04:12:42,898
by putting it at the podium? Is that for presenters?

3821
04:12:42,898 --> 04:12:45,378
Is that okay. Okay. Okay. Because now they're looking sideways.

3822
04:12:45,378 --> 04:12:47,298
They can't see either. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I just

3823
04:12:47,298 --> 04:12:49,258
wanted to clarify that. Okay. Uh, Vice Bear Mordead. I

3824
04:12:49,258 --> 04:12:51,218
believe you had your hand though. Yeah. Out of all

3825
04:12:51,258 --> 04:12:54,578
the options. That's not my least favorite because my least

3826
04:12:54,599 --> 04:12:58,418
favorite is the projectors, but it's very close to being,

3827
04:12:58,418 --> 04:13:01,378
uh, tied for my least favorite primarily because I don't

3828
04:13:01,378 --> 04:13:04,178
know. It just gives me PTSD from school when they

3829
04:13:04,178 --> 04:13:08,018
just rolled in the little TV cart. But also I

3830
04:13:08,018 --> 04:13:10,658
think it's a gigantic waste of space in our council

3831
04:13:10,658 --> 04:13:13,098
chambers, whether you put it there. Also, where are you

3832
04:13:13,098 --> 04:13:16,078
going to store it? Because, um, we have a lot

3833
04:13:16,078 --> 04:13:19,378
of special events in this chambers. And that thing's going

3834
04:13:19,378 --> 04:13:22,018
to break if you just leave it out here. So,

3835
04:13:22,039 --> 04:13:25,298
so you could try in there, nothing fits in there.

3836
04:13:25,399 --> 04:13:28,098
Yeah. I'm into the amendment. No, I'm just saying I'm

3837
04:13:28,098 --> 04:13:30,658
going to vote no on the amount of. Okay. Yeah.

3838
04:13:30,679 --> 04:13:32,978
Sora shit is a challenge for those TVs. If you

3839
04:13:32,978 --> 04:13:35,858
see the room is already packed. Thank you, Hey Man.

3840
04:13:35,858 --> 04:13:37,998
Uh, Madam Clerk, please call the role on the, uh,

3841
04:13:38,279 --> 04:13:43,328
on the amendment. The amendment by. Council member Hersburg seconded

3842
04:13:43,368 --> 04:13:47,528
by council member Garcia. Council member quadra Garcia. It's a

3843
04:13:47,528 --> 04:13:52,228
big no. Council Member Garcia. It's a yes. If you

3844
04:13:52,228 --> 04:13:57,311
can find a better price. Council member Fernandez. Yes. Council

3845
04:13:57,332 --> 04:14:07,136
member Sanchez. No. Council member Hersberg. Yes. Vice Mayor Morera?

3846
04:14:07,136 --> 04:14:12,035
No. Mayor Diegas. No. The motion fails. Thank you. All

3847
04:14:12,035 --> 04:14:14,115
right. So that's an amendment. I'll try one more amendment,

3848
04:14:14,115 --> 04:14:17,715
which is just to do the podium display. Second. Okay.

3849
04:14:17,736 --> 04:14:21,615
It's been seconded by. No, no, no. Let's move on.

3850
04:14:21,615 --> 04:14:23,455
Let's move on. All right. So it's been second of

3851
04:14:23,455 --> 04:14:25,935
a councilman Hersberg. All those Madam Creek, please call the

3852
04:14:25,975 --> 04:14:28,335
road just on my, on my amendment, which is a

3853
04:14:28,356 --> 04:14:31,695
strike all amendment just to do, uh, item C, option

3854
04:14:31,695 --> 04:14:37,555
one. The thousand dollars for the podium, uh, and who

3855
04:14:37,576 --> 04:14:40,435
seconded the amendment by me. That's been Herzberg. Oh, okay.

3856
04:14:40,435 --> 04:14:48,296
Perfect. Council member Hersberg? Yes. Councilmember Sanchez? No. A council

3857
04:14:48,336 --> 04:14:56,990
member quadra Garcia. Councilmember Fernandez? Yes. Councilmember Garcia. Yes. Vice

3858
04:14:56,990 --> 04:15:01,150
Mayor Morera. Yes. Mayor Tiegez. Yes. The motion passes. Thank

3859
04:15:01,190 --> 04:15:03,230
you. Now on final passage of the of the main

3860
04:15:03,411 --> 04:15:06,030
motion as amended, uh, all his in favor say aye.

3861
04:15:06,051 --> 04:15:10,414
Aye. Holopose no. The ayes have it. The motion carries.

3862
04:15:10,414 --> 04:15:13,614
All right. So it's just a podium item. Just a

3863
04:15:13,614 --> 04:15:21,210
podium. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you. Okay. Too late now.

3864
04:15:23,459 --> 04:15:26,638
All right. So with that, we are now on protecting

3865
04:15:26,659 --> 04:15:29,998
the town's tree canopies. And I know director backdown will

3866
04:15:29,998 --> 04:15:31,838
do a good job at moving us as quickly as

3867
04:15:31,838 --> 04:15:36,798
possible through this. Good evening Mayor and council director Parks

3868
04:15:36,838 --> 04:15:38,958
Mercuryation. Jeremy back down. The Adam B had before you

3869
04:15:38,958 --> 04:15:41,038
is coming off of direction from the council to look

3870
04:15:41,038 --> 04:15:44,318
at ways to establish potentially a policy and fines for

3871
04:15:44,419 --> 04:15:47,598
vendors that do harm to our trees. Um, unknowingly to

3872
04:15:47,638 --> 04:15:50,718
the residents that hired them. Essentially the report in front

3873
04:15:50,718 --> 04:15:52,638
of you goes out. All the due diligence done by

3874
04:15:52,678 --> 04:15:55,118
the town and by staff to look at different various

3875
04:15:55,539 --> 04:15:57,958
permits that are issued by the county, other types of

3876
04:15:58,019 --> 04:16:00,878
programs that have been done in the past by other,

3877
04:16:00,878 --> 04:16:04,958
um, communities of high standards for their arbor, um, management

3878
04:16:06,739 --> 04:16:08,958
and existing town limitations as far as what we can

3879
04:16:09,059 --> 04:16:12,318
already do. Um, in review of that, essentially what you'll

3880
04:16:12,318 --> 04:16:16,398
see in the report is the, um, recommendation, um, due

3881
04:16:16,438 --> 04:16:19,358
to some florid statutes and due to some, um, prohibitions

3882
04:16:19,358 --> 04:16:21,998
on what we can and cannot license or create a

3883
04:16:21,998 --> 04:16:26,478
registry that requires these levels of standards. We would look

3884
04:16:26,518 --> 04:16:30,958
to develop and coordinate a educational initiative that looks at

3885
04:16:30,958 --> 04:16:34,238
getting ahead of before any resonance higher any of these

3886
04:16:34,278 --> 04:16:37,598
landscapers. Kind of some quick facts, some flyers that we

3887
04:16:37,598 --> 04:16:39,998
can develop, some social media, uh, campaigns that we can

3888
04:16:40,038 --> 04:16:43,518
push around that looks at educating our residents to what

3889
04:16:43,518 --> 04:16:45,498
we should be looking for, what are some of the

3890
04:16:45,539 --> 04:16:52,798
town standards as far as the vendor's we use. Documents,

3891
04:16:52,798 --> 04:16:55,978
uh, these social media campaigns and even printed documents, um,

3892
04:16:56,739 --> 04:17:00,238
at our community meetings, our HOA meetings, tax and district

3893
04:17:00,278 --> 04:17:02,238
meetings and kind of getting the word out about different

3894
04:17:02,499 --> 04:17:04,958
ways that looking at how you should be looking at

3895
04:17:04,998 --> 04:17:07,299
the vendors that you were hiring. And that is the

3896
04:17:07,339 --> 04:17:10,339
report. Are there any questions? Councilman Garcia will go to

3897
04:17:10,360 --> 04:17:12,099
you since this is partly your item. Thank you so

3898
04:17:12,099 --> 04:17:14,159
much. I appreciate the time you put into this. And

3899
04:17:14,159 --> 04:17:17,779
the whole point of this was to avoid poor citizens

3900
04:17:17,819 --> 04:17:21,619
getting, um, bamboozled into cutting a tree when the actual,

3901
04:17:21,619 --> 04:17:23,759
you know, landscaper knows you can't do that here. Um,

3902
04:17:24,600 --> 04:17:27,859
so as far as the encouraging use of tree care

3903
04:17:27,899 --> 04:17:30,179
professionals and recognizing that, what are we going to do

3904
04:17:30,280 --> 04:17:31,999
as a town? I know we already do something, but

3905
04:17:32,280 --> 04:17:34,259
to make sure that, uh, we have a list of

3906
04:17:34,520 --> 04:17:38,319
recognized landscapers that we approve. So we do have, um,

3907
04:17:39,000 --> 04:17:42,259
it's a voluntary program at looking at tree trimming vendors

3908
04:17:42,299 --> 04:17:44,419
within the town that have met all of our standards.

3909
04:17:44,419 --> 04:17:46,899
They would meet the same standards that are contractors do,

3910
04:17:46,899 --> 04:17:49,119
uh, that are licensed to trim on the town. And

3911
04:17:49,119 --> 04:17:51,059
essentially our goal here would be to go out and

3912
04:17:51,080 --> 04:17:54,019
solicit more vendors that we know are of statute that

3913
04:17:54,019 --> 04:17:56,819
have these accreditations that maintain the criteria and looking at

3914
04:17:56,859 --> 04:17:58,579
putting them on our website. The more vendors were able

3915
04:17:58,579 --> 04:18:01,379
to get to buy in to the process, the more

3916
04:18:01,379 --> 04:18:03,539
options our town residents can look at different vendors that

3917
04:18:03,539 --> 04:18:06,419
we know won't create these types of issues. Yeah. So

3918
04:18:06,459 --> 04:18:08,719
that's great. So I know my colleagues have questions, but

3919
04:18:08,760 --> 04:18:10,739
at this point I like to go ahead and move

3920
04:18:10,779 --> 04:18:15,619
that we accept your recommendations and develop the protector canopy

3921
04:18:15,659 --> 04:18:18,179
education initiative, including all the bullet points that you've included

3922
04:18:18,219 --> 04:18:23,059
here. Second. I'll second. It's been second of a consentz.

3923
04:18:23,099 --> 04:18:25,432
Is there really any discussion on this. Okay. All those

3924
04:18:25,472 --> 04:18:28,472
in favor of say aye. Aye. All opposed no. The

3925
04:18:28,512 --> 04:18:31,272
ayes have it. Motion carries. Thank you very much director.

3926
04:18:31,272 --> 04:18:33,512
Excellent job. All right. We're now in the attorney's report.

3927
04:18:34,013 --> 04:18:37,112
Mr. Attorney. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council. I have nothing

3928
04:18:37,152 --> 04:18:40,632
to report. Amazing. All right. We're now in the consent

3929
04:18:40,672 --> 04:18:45,855
calendar. Is there motion. It's been moved by Council Member

3930
04:18:45,895 --> 04:18:48,015
Fernandez. I'll second it all those in favor. Say aye.

3931
04:18:48,516 --> 04:18:51,615
Aye. All opposed no. The ayes have it. The motion

3932
04:18:51,636 --> 04:18:53,775
cares and deconst calendar is passed. We now move to

3933
04:18:53,876 --> 04:18:57,675
13a ordinances on first reading employee performance review policy. Mr.

3934
04:18:57,716 --> 04:19:00,767
Turney read the ordinance to the record. Thank you, Mr.

3935
04:19:00,767 --> 04:19:03,587
Mayor. Um, boy performance review policy and ordinance of the

3936
04:19:04,088 --> 04:19:06,547
council, the town of Miami Lakes, Florida. I'm ending chapter

3937
04:19:06,587 --> 04:19:09,667
two administration article three officers and employees of the town

3938
04:19:09,667 --> 04:19:11,907
of Miami Leafs Code of Ordinances creating Section 2 -

3939
04:19:11,928 --> 04:19:15,347
57 titled Employee and Performance Reviews providing for a baseline

3940
04:19:15,448 --> 04:19:18,947
performance review requirement, providing for an ongoing review schedule, providing

3941
04:19:19,048 --> 04:19:22,147
for town manager discretion and delegation, providing for outcomes and

3942
04:19:22,147 --> 04:19:24,547
review to remain within the discretion of the town manager,

3943
04:19:24,547 --> 04:19:26,867
providing inclusion to the code, providing for repeal award instances

3944
04:19:26,888 --> 04:19:29,427
and conflict, providing for severability and providing for an effective

3945
04:19:29,467 --> 04:19:33,263
date. Thank you. And I remind everybody that this is

3946
04:19:33,303 --> 04:19:35,503
first reading, but I go now to Councilman Herzberg to

3947
04:19:35,503 --> 04:19:38,965
go ahead and make his motion. We already approved the

3948
04:19:39,146 --> 04:19:42,785
concept that just the minimum, uh, standard for employee, any

3949
04:19:42,785 --> 04:19:45,525
reviews of town managers already implementing his own standard, which

3950
04:19:45,866 --> 04:19:48,325
meets this ordinance once it's passed. So I move that

3951
04:19:48,325 --> 04:19:51,827
we passed ordinance. Excellent. Second. Second if I count member

3952
04:19:51,867 --> 04:19:55,347
Fernandez, uh, Madam Clerk, please call the role. Ordinance in

3953
04:19:55,387 --> 04:20:01,747
first reading item 13a. Council member Hersberg. Yes. Councilmember Fernandez.

3954
04:20:01,747 --> 04:20:07,987
Yes. Council member Guadalajara Garcia. Council member Garcia. Yes. Councilmember

3955
04:20:08,168 --> 04:20:13,107
Sanchez. Yes. Vice Mayor Morera is absent Mayor Diegas. Yes.

3956
04:20:13,208 --> 04:20:16,707
The origins and first reading item 13 A passes. Excellent.

3957
04:20:16,728 --> 04:20:19,587
We are now on ordinances on in second reading beginning

3958
04:20:19,587 --> 04:20:23,667
with 14A modification of chapter 35 article two. Utility facilities

3959
04:20:24,248 --> 04:20:27,827
in Public Rights of Way by Directors. But first Mr.

3960
04:20:27,867 --> 04:20:29,807
Turning Reed, the ordinance of the record. Thank you, Mr.

3961
04:20:29,807 --> 04:20:31,507
Mayor. And ordinance of the town council, the town of

3962
04:20:31,547 --> 04:20:34,867
Miami League's Florida. I'm ending chapter 35 Utilities Article 2,

3963
04:20:34,867 --> 04:20:37,267
Utility Facilities in Public Rights of Way of the Talon

3964
04:20:37,307 --> 04:20:39,747
Code of Ordinances to align with the town regulation covering

3965
04:20:39,787 --> 04:20:42,787
the installation maintenance and removal of utility facilities within the

3966
04:20:42,787 --> 04:20:45,427
rights of way with current Florida statutes providing for amendments

3967
04:20:45,608 --> 04:20:51,427
of definitions, registrations, insurance, identifications, terminations, permitting, and other related

3968
04:20:51,448 --> 04:20:54,867
provisions providing for severability, providing for collusion to the code,

3969
04:20:54,867 --> 04:20:57,827
providing for complex and providing for an effective day. Excellent.

3970
04:20:57,867 --> 04:21:01,587
Thank you. This being, um, a public hearing. I'm opening

3971
04:21:01,768 --> 04:21:05,859
the Public Hearing. Seeing no members of the Publican Chambers,

3972
04:21:05,859 --> 04:21:10,648
Madam Clerk, anyone online. I say two individuals. I'm just

3973
04:21:10,648 --> 04:21:12,628
going to ask. They don't have their hands raised, but

3974
04:21:12,628 --> 04:21:17,768
I'm going to ask if anyone is participating online. Remote

3975
04:21:17,789 --> 04:21:24,728
Public Commons for ordinance in Second Reading 14 - 8.

3976
04:21:24,728 --> 04:21:27,848
Please unmute yourself now. It is the opportunity to speak

3977
04:21:28,269 --> 04:21:36,608
right now. Okay. The Public hearing is now closed. Directors,

3978
04:21:36,608 --> 04:21:39,008
you're recognized to introduce the item and then we'll have

3979
04:21:39,008 --> 04:21:42,128
a long - term motions from there. Okay, good evening.

3980
04:21:42,128 --> 04:21:44,608
So this item, like I mentioned in the last meeting,

3981
04:21:44,608 --> 04:21:47,728
it's more of a cleanup item for chapter 35 article

3982
04:21:47,909 --> 04:21:51,408
two. Our attorneys did a review of the item and

3983
04:21:51,408 --> 04:21:54,928
to make sure it's in compliance occurred in Florida statute.

3984
04:21:54,928 --> 04:21:57,088
And the changes that you see reflected are here are

3985
04:21:57,189 --> 04:22:02,438
based on that. Thank you. Is there a motion. I'll

3986
04:22:02,438 --> 04:22:04,998
move it. Moved by Councilmember Garcia. Is there a second?

3987
04:22:05,179 --> 04:22:10,118
Second. Second did by Councilman Sanchez. Madam Clerk, any discussion?

3988
04:22:10,118 --> 04:22:13,398
Okay. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please call the role. Ordinance

3989
04:22:13,438 --> 04:22:18,438
and second reading item 14. 8 council member Garcia. Yes.

3990
04:22:18,779 --> 04:22:25,638
Councilmember Kwadragarcia. Council member Sanchez. Yes. Council member Hersberg. Yes.

3991
04:22:25,819 --> 04:22:31,558
Councilmember Fernandez. Yes. Vice Mayor Morera is absent Mayor Diaguez.

3992
04:22:31,558 --> 04:22:35,238
Yes. The ordinance in second reading item 14. 8 passes.

3993
04:22:35,259 --> 04:22:37,798
Excellent. We're now taking up 14 B amending chapter 38

3994
04:22:37,819 --> 04:22:40,678
of the town code Special Tax and Districts abide director

3995
04:22:40,718 --> 04:22:43,918
back down. Mr. Attorney. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Inordinate to

3996
04:22:43,918 --> 04:22:46,118
the town council of town of Miami Leaks, Florida. I'm

3997
04:22:46,158 --> 04:22:49,398
ending chapter 38 Special Taxing Districts of the town Code

3998
04:22:49,438 --> 04:22:52,758
Awardances. Amending section 38 - 2 to provide a definition

3999
04:22:52,758 --> 04:22:55,558
of capital improvements and to establish a uniform process for

4000
04:22:55,598 --> 04:22:58,678
the adoption of special assessments for capital improvement projects within

4001
04:22:58,718 --> 04:23:01,958
the town Special Tax and Districts, providing for severability, providing

4002
04:23:01,998 --> 04:23:04,758
for inclusion to the code, providing for conflicts and providing

4003
04:23:04,779 --> 04:23:09,198
for an effective day. Mr. Director, you may proceed. Good

4004
04:23:09,238 --> 04:23:11,678
evening, Mayor and Council. Um, the Adam before you and

4005
04:23:11,678 --> 04:23:13,838
its second reading is essentially looking at cleaning up chapter

4006
04:23:13,859 --> 04:23:17,438
38 and adding the definition of a capital improvement defining

4007
04:23:18,819 --> 04:23:21,438
its parameters as well as going ahead and creating an

4008
04:23:21,438 --> 04:23:25,838
establishing the same policy identical to adjusting the ordinance itself.

4009
04:23:25,838 --> 04:23:27,518
But in order to create a one - time assessment

4010
04:23:27,939 --> 04:23:31,278
or a capital improvement, um, the process for approving a

4011
04:23:31,278 --> 04:23:35,746
capital improvement project. At this time, I'm opening up the

4012
04:23:35,786 --> 04:23:39,346
Public hearing, seeing no one in chambers, Madam Clerk, anyone

4013
04:23:39,346 --> 04:23:42,866
online, just the same two. Same individuals. Okay, we'll give

4014
04:23:42,906 --> 04:23:46,023
them five seconds for one of the. Listening to the

4015
04:23:46,204 --> 04:23:49,303
remote Public comments right now, section of the agenda. Please

4016
04:23:49,404 --> 04:23:53,143
unmute yourself if you want to participate and provide feedback,

4017
04:23:53,143 --> 04:23:58,550
provide public comments. On 14B. On 14B, yes. Ordinance in

4018
04:23:58,590 --> 04:24:02,470
second reading, amending the town code for special taxing districts

4019
04:24:03,371 --> 04:24:08,310
definition. Okay. No one. Closing the Public hearing. And with

4020
04:24:08,310 --> 04:24:11,430
that, um, I'll go ahead and move it. Is there

4021
04:24:11,430 --> 04:24:14,150
a second? Second. It's been seconded by Conspend of Garcia.

4022
04:24:14,150 --> 04:24:16,950
Any discussion. Seeing none, Madam Clerk, please call the role

4023
04:24:16,990 --> 04:24:21,110
on this item. Ordinance in second reading item 14b, council

4024
04:24:21,291 --> 04:24:28,070
member Hersberg. Yeah. Council member Fernandez. Yes. Councilmember Cuadra Garcia,

4025
04:24:28,070 --> 04:24:32,790
council member Garcia. Yes. Councilmember Sanchez. Yes. Vice Mayor Morera

4026
04:24:33,211 --> 04:24:37,430
is absent. Mayor Diagus. Yes. Ordinance in Second Reading item

4027
04:24:37,451 --> 04:24:40,870
14 B passes. Excellent. We are now on 14C budget

4028
04:24:40,870 --> 04:24:45,430
amendment for contribution of 1. 56 million for Senior Center

4029
04:24:45,430 --> 04:24:49,590
Project provided by the Grams. This is between Ms. Director

4030
04:24:49,611 --> 04:24:54,930
Grant and director Hernandez over there. Uh, with that, Mr.

4031
04:24:54,930 --> 04:24:57,590
Attorney, go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. In order to

4032
04:24:57,630 --> 04:25:00,550
the town of Miami - Leafs, Florida, amending ordinance 2025,

4033
04:25:00,550 --> 04:25:05,430
346, approving fiscal year 2025, 2026 annual operating budgets recognize

4034
04:25:05,531 --> 04:25:08,230
an appropriate contribution from the Graham companies in the amount

4035
04:25:08,270 --> 04:25:11,590
of 1, 560, 000. For the construction of a Senior

4036
04:25:11,590 --> 04:25:15,190
Center Project, providing for increased capital funds, park improvements, revenues,

4037
04:25:15,190 --> 04:25:21,350
and appropriations in the amount of 1, 560, 000 dollars,

4038
04:25:21,350 --> 04:25:24,150
providing for implementation, providing for a repeal of ordinances and

4039
04:25:24,150 --> 04:25:27,430
conflict, providing for severability, providing for inclusion, and providing for

4040
04:25:27,430 --> 04:25:30,943
an effective date. Okay. Um, well, you know what? Uh,

4041
04:25:31,444 --> 04:25:33,903
does anybody really want to need them to present it?

4042
04:25:33,903 --> 04:25:36,463
Again, this is just, yeah. All right, so perfect. Uh,

4043
04:25:36,484 --> 04:25:38,303
so with that, I'll move it. Is there a second?

4044
04:25:38,484 --> 04:25:41,743
Second. It's been seconded. Oh, wait, before I forget, just

4045
04:25:41,743 --> 04:25:45,313
proceed to be correct. The Public Common is now, or

4046
04:25:45,313 --> 04:25:47,993
the Public hearing is now open. Seeing no one in

4047
04:25:47,993 --> 04:25:50,633
chambers, Madam Clerk, once again, nobody online willing to comment

4048
04:25:50,814 --> 04:25:54,828
on 14C. Nope. I don't see anyone. But again, I'm

4049
04:25:55,089 --> 04:25:59,388
all just stress. If anyone is participating online and wants

4050
04:25:59,428 --> 04:26:03,708
to provide public comments in ordinance in second reading, item

4051
04:26:04,049 --> 04:26:09,686
14C, please unmute yourself now. Okay, Public Comics now closed.

4052
04:26:09,726 --> 04:26:12,086
It's been moved in seconded already, actually. So with that,

4053
04:26:12,107 --> 04:26:15,046
any discussion, seeing none, Mattler, please call the Royal Corking

4054
04:26:15,086 --> 04:26:20,514
Seat. 14C, Ordinance in Second Reading, Council Member Sanchez. Yes.

4055
04:26:20,695 --> 04:26:26,994
Councilmember Guada Garcia. Council Member Herrsburg. Yes. Councilmember Garcia. Yes.

4056
04:26:27,095 --> 04:26:31,794
Council Member Fernandez. Yes. Vice Mayor Morera is absent, Mayor

4057
04:26:31,834 --> 04:26:35,794
Diagon. Yes. Ordinance in Second Reading, item 14, C passes.

4058
04:26:35,815 --> 04:26:39,554
Excellent. Okay. We are now on 15A. Authorization to apply

4059
04:26:39,735 --> 04:26:44,434
to the Florida Recruition Development Assistance Grant Program by Ms.

4060
04:26:44,535 --> 04:26:49,614
Shock. Go ahead. Shock us. Hi there. So this would

4061
04:26:49,614 --> 04:26:51,294
be a grant program that we were looking to apply

4062
04:26:51,395 --> 04:26:54,974
to read you two of the pocket parks, replace Playground

4063
04:26:54,995 --> 04:26:58,414
Equipment, um, at P79 in 83. This would be 50,

4064
04:26:58,454 --> 04:27:03,534
000 dollars each program. Excellent. I'll move it. Is there

4065
04:27:03,534 --> 04:27:06,421
a second? Second. It's been second that any discussion. Seeing

4066
04:27:06,421 --> 04:27:09,381
none, all in favor say aye. Aye. I'll post no.

4067
04:27:09,402 --> 04:27:12,661
You guys have it, 15A passes. You're back up, Miss

4068
04:27:12,661 --> 04:27:15,461
Shock, for the authorization to apply to the Resilient Florida

4069
04:27:15,482 --> 04:27:20,678
implementation grant program, Lakeland Island phase. Of phase one. Again,

4070
04:27:20,939 --> 04:27:24,118
that's 15b. I'll go ahead. Yeah, absolutely. So again, this

4071
04:27:24,118 --> 04:27:27,798
is a drainage improvement project that would provide for a

4072
04:27:27,838 --> 04:27:30,438
construction of a new drainage system over in the Lake

4073
04:27:30,438 --> 04:27:33,158
Glen Ellen neighborhood. Project map is attached. Um, this is

4074
04:27:33,179 --> 04:27:35,798
a program requires a 50 percent cost match with a

4075
04:27:35,798 --> 04:27:40,078
total cost being 1 million 638, 000. So that'd be

4076
04:27:40,078 --> 04:27:43,078
819 coming from the grant and 819 from the town

4077
04:27:43,259 --> 04:27:47,958
out of stormwater maintenance fund. Excellent. Okay. I'll move it.

4078
04:27:48,379 --> 04:27:51,958
Second. It's been seconded by somebody here. Tay, take, take

4079
04:27:51,958 --> 04:27:55,318
your pickle. Council Member Grossia. All right. Any discussion seeing

4080
04:27:55,318 --> 04:27:58,438
none. All this various AI. Aye. Aye. All opposed no.

4081
04:27:59,176 --> 04:28:00,915
The ayes have it. 15 B passes and we are

4082
04:28:00,915 --> 04:28:04,115
now on 15 C once again by director shock authorization

4083
04:28:04,155 --> 04:28:08,115
to apply to the Biscuit Bay water quality improvement grant

4084
04:28:08,136 --> 04:28:12,115
for Florinda Estates. I have my two in the wrong

4085
04:28:12,115 --> 04:28:16,355
order. Sorry. So for Florinda Estates, there we go. Um,

4086
04:28:16,376 --> 04:28:19,555
this one is again, this program is for, again, drainage

4087
04:28:19,595 --> 04:28:24,835
improvements, same lower scope replacing a drainage infrastructure along in

4088
04:28:24,835 --> 04:28:27,684
the Florida state's neighborhood. Um, this was a total project

4089
04:28:27,705 --> 04:28:32,484
cost of one million seven hundred ninety six, And this

4090
04:28:32,524 --> 04:28:41,204
program requires a 20 percent cost share match. Again out

4091
04:28:41,244 --> 04:28:45,622
of stormwater funds. Thank you. It's been moved by the

4092
04:28:45,662 --> 04:28:48,742
vice marriage. Second, seconded by who was it again? A

4093
04:28:48,742 --> 04:28:52,402
council member Garcia. All right. Any discussions seen none, all

4094
04:28:52,402 --> 04:28:55,542
those favorites say aye. Aye. All opposed no. The ads

4095
04:28:55,582 --> 04:28:58,742
have it by your vote 15 C passes. And we're

4096
04:28:58,782 --> 04:29:01,942
now in 15 D authorization to apply to the Biscayne

4097
04:29:01,982 --> 04:29:05,782
Bay water quality improvement grant for rural gardens estates. Go

4098
04:29:05,782 --> 04:29:08,662
ahead. Yep. So same thing as the last one same

4099
04:29:08,683 --> 04:29:11,542
grant program just again in the Royal Gardens neighborhood again

4100
04:29:11,563 --> 04:29:15,302
draining improvement infrastructure. Similar twenty percent cost match. So this

4101
04:29:15,323 --> 04:29:18,102
is about 1. 6 million in total cost 1. 2

4102
04:29:18,203 --> 04:29:21,062
coming from the grant and about 321 coming from the

4103
04:29:21,102 --> 04:29:23,062
town. So we're going to set a stormwater maintenance or

4104
04:29:23,102 --> 04:29:26,022
a stormwater. Second. If that counts memory grecia, he was

4105
04:29:26,062 --> 04:29:29,142
fast when he brought me interest. Sorry. Um, with that

4106
04:29:29,243 --> 04:29:31,942
any discussion seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

4107
04:29:32,443 --> 04:29:36,742
Aye. All opposed. No. Dyes have it. Item 15 D

4108
04:29:36,742 --> 04:29:39,622
passes. And thankfully we are now on 15 or yeah,

4109
04:29:39,622 --> 04:29:43,622
15 eauthorization to apply to the Florida local Government Cybersecurity

4110
04:29:43,643 --> 04:29:46,342
Grant Program. Go ahead. So this one just provides the

4111
04:29:46,443 --> 04:29:50,182
town with cybersecurity software. Proof point email protection software that

4112
04:29:50,182 --> 04:29:52,262
we've been, we were rewarded this grant about two years

4113
04:29:52,262 --> 04:29:54,662
ago. So we've been operating with that software. We didn't

4114
04:29:54,683 --> 04:29:56,422
receive it last year, but we'd like to apply again

4115
04:29:56,523 --> 04:29:59,622
to receive this. There's no funding and no match source

4116
04:29:59,622 --> 04:30:02,422
for this. Again, it's just for the software license. I'll

4117
04:30:02,422 --> 04:30:05,349
move. On that one council member Fernandez. I think that's

4118
04:30:05,349 --> 04:30:07,909
where our second. But all right. Second hit by the

4119
04:30:07,949 --> 04:30:13,029
Vice Mayor. All those in favor say aye. All opposed

4120
04:30:13,130 --> 04:30:15,989
no. The ads have it. 15 he passes. And thankfully

4121
04:30:16,010 --> 04:30:20,629
we are now in 16 C by Councilman Hersberg Commercial

4122
04:30:20,890 --> 04:30:25,953
Waste franchise fee. Okay. Here we go. Fun. Um, well

4123
04:30:26,214 --> 04:30:30,158
everyone loves fees, right? Listen, I don't like bringing this

4124
04:30:30,158 --> 04:30:35,073
up. I don't take pleasure in saying let's charge a

4125
04:30:35,113 --> 04:30:39,073
fee, but it's the fiscal reality we might be in

4126
04:30:39,574 --> 04:30:43,466
come November. Um, I've had discussions with the town manager.

4127
04:30:43,466 --> 04:30:45,466
I mean, there is an argument to just do this

4128
04:30:45,567 --> 04:30:49,626
regardless. My position is we implement this if amendment three

4129
04:30:49,626 --> 04:30:52,586
passes because that is the consequence. And I've been telling

4130
04:30:52,607 --> 04:30:56,028
people that. People talk to me. I said listen there's

4131
04:30:56,529 --> 04:30:59,308
pauses and negatives of amendment three. It's up to the

4132
04:30:59,329 --> 04:31:01,668
voters. They can decide. This is what going to be

4133
04:31:01,668 --> 04:31:04,668
one of the consequences of amendment three because we have

4134
04:31:04,929 --> 04:31:07,308
police officers in UVPAID. We have roads that need to

4135
04:31:07,308 --> 04:31:11,948
be paved. Um, so I think it's responsible for us

4136
04:31:12,049 --> 04:31:15,228
to at least get the wheels moving on a waste

4137
04:31:15,268 --> 04:31:19,702
franchise fee. Uh, in this town. The ordinance is already

4138
04:31:19,742 --> 04:31:24,127
there. There needs to be some touching up. My position

4139
04:31:24,468 --> 04:31:27,647
personally. I don't know what you guys feel is we

4140
04:31:27,748 --> 04:31:30,367
implement this if amendment three passes because we're going to

4141
04:31:30,388 --> 04:31:33,567
have a budget deficit. It's going to the money just

4142
04:31:33,607 --> 04:31:35,055
won't isn't going to go be there next year. Uh,

4143
04:31:35,095 --> 04:31:38,335
and this will help soften the blow and allow us

4144
04:31:38,335 --> 04:31:41,055
to continue to, to provide the services. We just heard

4145
04:31:41,396 --> 04:31:47,955
from residents. They want us to fund services. Right. That's,

4146
04:31:47,995 --> 04:31:52,035
that's, this is what it takes. Right. So, um, my

4147
04:31:52,136 --> 04:31:56,938
motion is to. Have a direct staff to proceed with

4148
04:31:57,919 --> 04:32:01,012
drafting the ordinance. I think staff could come back to

4149
04:32:01,012 --> 04:32:06,372
us next, next meeting with a draft ordinance for first

4150
04:32:06,372 --> 04:32:10,292
reading. And then we can discuss in more detail or

4151
04:32:10,292 --> 04:32:11,892
we can discuss it now. The biggest issue would be

4152
04:32:13,593 --> 04:32:15,812
what is the percentage that we want to charge, what

4153
04:32:15,812 --> 04:32:19,652
is typical, um, in Day County. But that's my motion

4154
04:32:20,073 --> 04:32:23,652
to have staff come back to us with an ordinance.

4155
04:32:23,652 --> 04:32:26,612
I can, sorry Councilman Fernandez. Get him next time. All

4156
04:32:26,612 --> 04:32:30,772
right. Discussion beginning with the Vice Mayor. Yeah. I definitely

4157
04:32:31,513 --> 04:32:34,852
think that this is a more likely than not something

4158
04:32:34,852 --> 04:32:37,932
that it's regardless of what happens with the amendment. I

4159
04:32:37,932 --> 04:32:40,992
agree. Um, and, and the primary reason is, you know,

4160
04:32:41,113 --> 04:32:43,892
we see what's been happening with our police budget. It's

4161
04:32:43,913 --> 04:32:48,052
just ballooning. And it's not really a cost that we're

4162
04:32:48,052 --> 04:32:52,372
able to control. Um, so I do see this as,

4163
04:32:52,372 --> 04:32:55,172
you know, a secondary source of funding to possibly fill

4164
04:32:55,172 --> 04:32:57,572
some gaps. The only question I really had was whether

4165
04:32:57,593 --> 04:33:01,012
we knew whether we know or have any estimates of

4166
04:33:01,052 --> 04:33:07,966
what that would generate. Yeah. We did some, uh, estimating

4167
04:33:08,627 --> 04:33:11,006
extrapolating from some information that we got from some of

4168
04:33:11,006 --> 04:33:15,886
the bigger, uh, entities in the town that used private

4169
04:33:15,987 --> 04:33:21,166
haulers. We believe that the revenue should be somewhere in

4170
04:33:21,166 --> 04:33:24,286
the neighborhood of between four and 500, 000 dollars And

4171
04:33:24,286 --> 04:33:27,486
that's why it may be something in order to truly

4172
04:33:27,667 --> 04:33:31,406
budget this and really have a better idea. My personal

4173
04:33:31,507 --> 04:33:34,526
recommendation would be to implement it no matter what, like

4174
04:33:34,526 --> 04:33:36,766
you were saying. That way we can get a track

4175
04:33:36,806 --> 04:33:41,246
record and see what the, uh, what it'll be. Because

4176
04:33:41,246 --> 04:33:46,126
currently in our current version of the budget, there is

4177
04:33:46,126 --> 04:33:49,886
no allocation for funding of the sinking fund. And last

4178
04:33:49,886 --> 04:33:53,406
year the sinking fund was underfunded by over 200, 000

4179
04:33:53,446 --> 04:33:56,366
dollars. So this could be something that could be targeted

4180
04:33:57,027 --> 04:33:59,326
for the sinking fund. And that way you're not really

4181
04:33:59,987 --> 04:34:04,206
altering operations, but you're at least funding the sinking fund.

4182
04:34:04,206 --> 04:34:07,166
And then, uh, we can have several months of track

4183
04:34:07,206 --> 04:34:09,166
record be able to know what the revenues are truly

4184
04:34:09,206 --> 04:34:12,286
going to be. So through the mayor to Councilman Herzburg,

4185
04:34:12,307 --> 04:34:16,446
was the motion tied to the amendment? No, honestly, the

4186
04:34:16,467 --> 04:34:18,446
motion is for staff to come back with an ordinance

4187
04:34:19,347 --> 04:34:24,046
regardless. We can decide, um, well, I mean, we can

4188
04:34:24,086 --> 04:34:26,606
decide if, if the will of the council is to

4189
04:34:26,606 --> 04:34:28,526
just push it through October, like we'll vote second reading

4190
04:34:28,566 --> 04:34:31,246
October, then the, we don't know the results of the

4191
04:34:31,286 --> 04:34:33,406
map. Hold on. The Town attorney's kind of question. Just

4192
04:34:33,406 --> 04:34:35,806
through the mayor council member. We already have an ordinance

4193
04:34:35,806 --> 04:34:37,166
on the book. So it would be just to kind

4194
04:34:37,166 --> 04:34:40,136
of tweak it and bring it back. Right. But, but

4195
04:34:40,557 --> 04:34:43,816
to clarity, my, my, that is my personal take is

4196
04:34:43,816 --> 04:34:46,136
on the Mem in three. If the will of the

4197
04:34:46,136 --> 04:34:48,456
council or someone can convince me that we're ready, just

4198
04:34:48,456 --> 04:34:51,416
do it regardless, which honestly, it's not a terrible idea.

4199
04:34:51,517 --> 04:34:55,736
Based off our budget, that's something we can discuss in

4200
04:34:55,776 --> 04:34:59,656
second reading, honestly, on the, that's what I wanted to

4201
04:34:59,656 --> 04:35:02,616
stress is that, you know, look, regardless of, of whether

4202
04:35:02,656 --> 04:35:05,016
he meant it to only be conditional on amendment three

4203
04:35:05,056 --> 04:35:08,536
passing or whether in the case as you pointed out,

4204
04:35:08,536 --> 04:35:11,016
um, and others, I'm sure that we should do it

4205
04:35:11,016 --> 04:35:14,056
regardless. And we will have plenty of opportunities to hammer

4206
04:35:14,096 --> 04:35:17,176
that out. Uh, we remember first and second reading to

4207
04:35:17,197 --> 04:35:22,119
Hammer the South. All right. Council Member Fernandez. Well, no,

4208
04:35:22,119 --> 04:35:24,999
I was going to suggest that exactly that we just,

4209
04:35:24,999 --> 04:35:28,679
that we move it. And if we have, if we

4210
04:35:28,940 --> 04:35:32,199
want to remove it or later on, um, you know,

4211
04:35:32,199 --> 04:35:34,439
just pull it back. We could do that in first,

4212
04:35:34,439 --> 04:35:35,799
second reading. But I do think that we should move

4213
04:35:35,839 --> 04:35:40,519
it. Um, to ask staff to come back with, uh,

4214
04:35:40,700 --> 04:35:43,079
I think is just tweaking of the, of the current

4215
04:35:43,100 --> 04:35:47,170
ordinance right now. Yeah. If I may, Mayor. Absolutely. Go

4216
04:35:47,210 --> 04:35:49,570
ahead. The biggest question I have, and I think staff

4217
04:35:49,570 --> 04:35:53,311
should have is what's the percentage. What's the tax percentage

4218
04:35:53,412 --> 04:35:55,791
that they're going to come back with first or maybe

4219
04:35:56,212 --> 04:35:58,151
staff can tell you what their position is? Yeah, I

4220
04:35:58,151 --> 04:36:02,351
mean, I've shared some of it with councilman Hersburg is

4221
04:36:02,372 --> 04:36:06,651
we've done some analysis of what other municipalities do. And

4222
04:36:06,852 --> 04:36:08,791
it's, it's a little bit of a wide range. I

4223
04:36:08,791 --> 04:36:11,911
would say they range somewhere between 15 to 25. So

4224
04:36:12,212 --> 04:36:16,911
our recommendation would be to come back with this. In

4225
04:36:16,911 --> 04:36:20,451
our code. At 15 percent, I recommend that we put

4226
04:36:20,472 --> 04:36:24,211
it at 20 percent of where most of the cities

4227
04:36:24,211 --> 04:36:27,091
are. And I think that's the estimate that we use

4228
04:36:27,352 --> 04:36:29,811
or the percentage that we use to estimate the four

4229
04:36:29,811 --> 04:36:35,737
to 500, 000 dollar potential revenue. Council member Fernandez. So

4230
04:36:35,777 --> 04:36:38,817
I just, in thinking about this, who is going to

4231
04:36:38,817 --> 04:36:40,297
be paying for it? I mean, somebody ends up paying

4232
04:36:40,318 --> 04:36:46,673
for it. Commercial owners. And the consumers will. Right? Consumers

4233
04:36:46,854 --> 04:36:48,753
or whenever we go and we shop and we spend

4234
04:36:48,753 --> 04:36:52,593
money in the retail spaces. So, you know, we'll end

4235
04:36:52,633 --> 04:36:54,753
up paying for it. But it's not going to be

4236
04:36:54,793 --> 04:36:58,472
attached to our tax bill. Yeah. And, and look, I'm

4237
04:36:58,573 --> 04:37:01,352
interested in this. This was something that was previously passed.

4238
04:37:01,352 --> 04:37:02,872
It just, we, you know, it was paused on the

4239
04:37:02,872 --> 04:37:06,392
collection side. And to me as another opportunity to eventually

4240
04:37:06,493 --> 04:37:09,192
provide tax relief and become less relent on property taxes

4241
04:37:09,213 --> 04:37:12,312
anyway, uh, I think this is worth exploring. So with

4242
04:37:12,352 --> 04:37:15,432
that, all those in favor say aye. Aye. All of

4243
04:37:15,432 --> 04:37:20,312
those no. No one know, Madam Clerk. And with that,

4244
04:37:20,312 --> 04:37:23,352
um, okay, preventing illegal use of vehicles on our roads

4245
04:37:23,392 --> 04:37:26,100
for council member Garcia. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I'll

4246
04:37:26,140 --> 04:37:28,020
try to be as brief as possible. I think we've

4247
04:37:28,041 --> 04:37:30,900
all seen what's happening in our streets nationwide. We've seen

4248
04:37:30,940 --> 04:37:35,780
it on Instagram and Facebook, illegal writers or writing legal

4249
04:37:35,820 --> 04:37:39,460
vehicles, uh, not following laws. So what I'd like to

4250
04:37:39,460 --> 04:37:41,540
do in order to save a life before it becomes

4251
04:37:41,540 --> 04:37:43,780
a tragedy here in Northwest Date is coordinate with the

4252
04:37:43,820 --> 04:37:47,940
Sheriff's Office, coordinate with, um, our colleagues, Mr. Mayor. Perhaps

4253
04:37:47,940 --> 04:37:50,340
we can coordinate with the League of Cities as well.

4254
04:37:50,340 --> 04:37:51,940
And put it together a task force to see what

4255
04:37:51,980 --> 04:37:55,460
we can do not only to strengthen the choices that

4256
04:37:56,121 --> 04:37:58,980
our police officers have given them more tools, make any

4257
04:37:59,020 --> 04:38:01,380
changes to our ordinance to beef them up, to be

4258
04:38:01,401 --> 04:38:05,460
given them the maximum amount of leeway to do what

4259
04:38:05,460 --> 04:38:07,620
they have to do. Work with the county and also

4260
04:38:07,961 --> 04:38:11,620
our at Tallahassee to strengthen these laws. Because again, not

4261
04:38:11,641 --> 04:38:15,280
only do we have children writing these illegal vehicles, but

4262
04:38:15,481 --> 04:38:19,700
they're also writing legal vehicles illegally, but also, uh, we

4263
04:38:19,801 --> 04:38:23,260
start, we got to start holding parents available accountable. If

4264
04:38:23,260 --> 04:38:25,780
a parent buys a quad or a dirt bike for

4265
04:38:25,820 --> 04:38:27,620
a 12 year old, he's running around the streets and

4266
04:38:27,620 --> 04:38:30,180
something happens. God forbid to that child or God forbid

4267
04:38:30,220 --> 04:38:33,040
to a citizen. We've seen cars being hit. They get

4268
04:38:33,040 --> 04:38:35,460
out. They complain. They get attacked. The parent should be

4269
04:38:35,500 --> 04:38:39,860
held responsible. They should also, uh, you know, get fined.

4270
04:38:39,860 --> 04:38:41,940
And that vehicle should be confiscated. And that money should

4271
04:38:41,980 --> 04:38:44,880
be taken to be used for police, uh, police, uh,

4272
04:38:45,641 --> 04:38:49,220
for this, this actual enforcement, uh, when it comes to

4273
04:38:49,220 --> 04:38:52,900
stopping this. So I guess it's to ask the town,

4274
04:38:52,900 --> 04:38:54,580
talk to the major, see what we can do to

4275
04:38:54,681 --> 04:38:58,500
talk to other towns like Miami Gardens, hi Ailea, Hyalia

4276
04:38:58,500 --> 04:39:01,140
Gardens in our area to strengthen our position and give

4277
04:39:01,140 --> 04:39:03,220
the police officers everything they need to stop to set

4278
04:39:03,220 --> 04:39:06,340
from happening. And also an education program. So we can

4279
04:39:06,361 --> 04:39:10,340
quickly identify these, these number of writers and have police

4280
04:39:10,361 --> 04:39:13,860
officers come out and try to stop them or try

4281
04:39:13,881 --> 04:39:18,020
to, uh, use some, um, they're there. They flesh the

4282
04:39:18,020 --> 04:39:20,180
lights. They're going to go away. So I was talking

4283
04:39:20,220 --> 04:39:24,140
for discussion. It's seconded by council member sanchez, counseling. So

4284
04:39:24,761 --> 04:39:26,660
I love the spirit of this hand. I really do

4285
04:39:26,660 --> 04:39:29,380
account some of Garcia. I just, I see this more

4286
04:39:29,401 --> 04:39:32,580
fitting with endoscope and the mission statement of the Public

4287
04:39:32,580 --> 04:39:35,140
Safety Committee. They love to do publicity. They love to

4288
04:39:35,140 --> 04:39:37,540
do those trainings types of videos where they can reach

4289
04:39:37,641 --> 04:39:40,180
out to those other municipalities, especially with the success that

4290
04:39:40,180 --> 04:39:42,340
we had last year with Cars for Heroes where we

4291
04:39:42,380 --> 04:39:45,700
had first responders from as far as Homestead come to

4292
04:39:45,700 --> 04:39:48,180
our town. Um, so I really do believe instead of

4293
04:39:48,180 --> 04:39:51,300
doing a separate body in its own is feeding this

4294
04:39:51,300 --> 04:39:53,700
through the Public Safety Committee and developing it through that

4295
04:39:54,201 --> 04:39:56,980
methodology. And I understand that. Um, and I agree that

4296
04:39:57,001 --> 04:39:59,060
that's part of their, their scope. And they should be

4297
04:39:59,100 --> 04:40:02,580
part of this. However, this has become a huge national

4298
04:40:02,601 --> 04:40:04,820
and regional problem. And I think it's to the point

4299
04:40:04,841 --> 04:40:08,340
where regular citizens and ourselves are tired of it. We

4300
04:40:08,361 --> 04:40:10,020
got to stop it. The only way to do that

4301
04:40:10,060 --> 04:40:11,460
is get to the next level. And the other way

4302
04:40:11,460 --> 04:40:13,060
to get to the next level is talk to our,

4303
04:40:13,081 --> 04:40:17,220
our town, our county, our representatives in Tallahassee and strengthen

4304
04:40:17,260 --> 04:40:19,380
the laws to give the police officers the ability to

4305
04:40:19,401 --> 04:40:22,340
stop this. And if someone runs away from a police

4306
04:40:22,521 --> 04:40:24,500
officer and given a lawful order, even if it's on

4307
04:40:24,521 --> 04:40:28,060
a tricycle, a bike, a skateboard, a roller skates, a

4308
04:40:28,060 --> 04:40:30,740
roller blades, they should be held accountable. And that has

4309
04:40:30,780 --> 04:40:32,260
to stop. We have to stop this here. We should

4310
04:40:32,300 --> 04:40:33,860
be, I think we should take, I know you like

4311
04:40:33,860 --> 04:40:35,620
to take leadership and a lot of things. And if

4312
04:40:35,660 --> 04:40:37,860
we can all co - sponsor this and as a

4313
04:40:37,860 --> 04:40:40,020
town, take leadership in our area of northwest Miami -

4314
04:40:40,020 --> 04:40:42,400
Dade and maybe make this a county - wide. And

4315
04:40:42,400 --> 04:40:46,500
I reached out to Pembroke Pines, Councilman Fernandez up there.

4316
04:40:46,500 --> 04:40:49,140
He also was trying to pass an ordinance as well

4317
04:40:49,180 --> 04:40:50,980
to beef it up for the police. Maybe we can

4318
04:40:51,020 --> 04:40:52,820
make a regional as well. So just take a leadership

4319
04:40:52,841 --> 04:40:56,180
position. But I understand that our safety committee should be

4320
04:40:56,201 --> 04:41:00,660
part of the education part of it. Yeah. Councilman, Quadric

4321
04:41:00,700 --> 04:41:06,647
Garcia. All right. Anybody else. Anyone else? Okay. Uh, all

4322
04:41:06,647 --> 04:41:09,207
those in favor say aye. Aye. All of those. No.

4323
04:41:09,308 --> 04:41:15,881
The ayes have it. Sorry. Um, the, uh, I have

4324
04:41:15,921 --> 04:41:18,821
it. The item passes. And we are now on, uh,

4325
04:41:19,502 --> 04:41:23,521
16E by accountsman quadriga request for improved street lighting. A

4326
04:41:23,521 --> 04:41:25,881
jacar in the lane and my live grade south intersection.

4327
04:41:28,403 --> 04:41:31,882
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Basically, I just want to, uh,

4328
04:41:33,043 --> 04:41:38,302
when we're talking, my apologies, that requires aware of 7.

4329
04:41:38,342 --> 04:41:46,467
2nd. Thanks in favor, say, all right. Can you, Mr.

4330
04:41:46,467 --> 04:41:49,367
Mayor? Olipos no. The ayes have it, the world is

4331
04:41:49,388 --> 04:41:59,365
weight. I have secondhand embarrassment. Is it Danny Angel's beautiful

4332
04:41:59,405 --> 04:42:06,044
shirt. Ah, now I got it. I'm slowing. I got

4333
04:42:06,065 --> 04:42:13,103
it. You got at least where I at least robbie

4334
04:42:13,103 --> 04:42:19,032
some fun, right? Okay. Um, basically, um. After getting several

4335
04:42:19,373 --> 04:42:26,792
calls from residents in that Jacaranda, um, street of having,

4336
04:42:26,792 --> 04:42:32,472
um, guys, please, this is serious. Mr. Mayor, this is,

4337
04:42:32,472 --> 04:42:34,312
you know, when, when a resident calls me and tells

4338
04:42:34,312 --> 04:42:38,712
me they're cats, they're animals. They're like part of our

4339
04:42:38,813 --> 04:42:45,412
family. They've been killed due to light outage there, you

4340
04:42:45,412 --> 04:42:48,766
know. Basically what I'm asking that when we are in

4341
04:42:48,806 --> 04:42:52,926
the process of a budgeting that we can budget to

4342
04:42:52,926 --> 04:42:55,886
get a couple of light poles in that area to

4343
04:42:55,907 --> 04:42:59,326
get better lighting right there at that intersection of Jack

4344
04:42:59,326 --> 04:43:04,202
Aranda. There has been four accidents. For Christ. So do

4345
04:43:04,202 --> 04:43:11,599
you have a motion. My emotion is to request. Funding

4346
04:43:12,180 --> 04:43:16,648
to get better lighting in that area. Second. It's been

4347
04:43:16,669 --> 04:43:19,928
second of a constant Hersberg. Discussion beginning with constant Herzberg.

4348
04:43:22,515 --> 04:43:27,819
No, I don't have. I'm supposed. So, uh, Mr. Weisman,

4349
04:43:27,819 --> 04:43:29,419
go ahead. Just a friendly amendment to go along with

4350
04:43:29,419 --> 04:43:33,579
it is just to have the staff, uh, analyze and

4351
04:43:33,600 --> 04:43:37,819
check out that intersection. See if there are existing lights

4352
04:43:37,819 --> 04:43:41,259
that may potentially be out and need repair or replacement.

4353
04:43:41,259 --> 04:43:44,299
Um, if not, what the cost would be to get

4354
04:43:44,320 --> 04:43:47,419
power to that area. And what exactly would be needed

4355
04:43:47,459 --> 04:43:50,859
to properly illuminate that intersection. And then potentially present it

4356
04:43:50,859 --> 04:43:53,739
to us in time for the budget season. I'll second

4357
04:43:53,739 --> 04:43:56,699
that motion. All right. That's been seconded on the amendment.

4358
04:43:56,699 --> 04:43:59,179
All those in favor say aye. Aye. I'll oppose no

4359
04:43:59,360 --> 04:44:02,939
any discussion on the main motion as amend. The count

4360
04:44:02,979 --> 04:44:07,499
spin sanches. Yes. Councilman Angelo Guadal Garcia. The four accidents,

4361
04:44:07,499 --> 04:44:09,339
three of them were in the daytime. One of them

4362
04:44:09,339 --> 04:44:11,179
was in the nighttime and it's been over in the

4363
04:44:11,219 --> 04:44:14,139
span of four years. So adding lights for the, it

4364
04:44:14,179 --> 04:44:15,859
would really be for one accident in the span of

4365
04:44:15,859 --> 04:44:20,699
four years. Now, if I'm a councilman quadra Garcia, there's

4366
04:44:20,720 --> 04:44:23,499
also, you know, there's, there's a few of us that

4367
04:44:23,539 --> 04:44:26,699
live right along that street. And I drive it every

4368
04:44:26,699 --> 04:44:29,399
single night. Yes, there are parts that are dimmer, but

4369
04:44:29,399 --> 04:44:32,539
there's also the neighboring, um, the people that live in

4370
04:44:32,539 --> 04:44:35,979
that neighborhood, like on Jacaranda and on Big Cyprus that

4371
04:44:36,019 --> 04:44:39,899
enjoy literally that darkness. Now for those residents that led

4372
04:44:39,939 --> 04:44:42,059
their animals free Rome, I do remind that we have

4373
04:44:42,160 --> 04:44:44,859
ordinances where your animals are supposed to be leashed when

4374
04:44:44,859 --> 04:44:46,699
they are not within the home. If they are letting

4375
04:44:46,739 --> 04:44:49,739
them roam free, that's kind of their, they're willing to

4376
04:44:49,779 --> 04:44:53,099
take that risk of animals crossing to street and cars

4377
04:44:53,139 --> 04:44:56,299
coming along. Because even if there are lights, the amount

4378
04:44:56,400 --> 04:44:59,179
of speed, um, even going at 20 miles an hour

4379
04:44:59,520 --> 04:45:02,459
and an animal darts out, it's very unlikely you'll be

4380
04:45:02,459 --> 04:45:06,059
able to fast enough in order to prevent hitting that

4381
04:45:06,099 --> 04:45:09,099
animal. But do we remember that we do have ordinances

4382
04:45:09,200 --> 04:45:11,179
county ordinance? Is where animals do need to be leached

4383
04:45:11,520 --> 04:45:13,419
when they are not within the home. So we also

4384
04:45:13,440 --> 04:45:16,699
have to make the owner somewhat responsible for what happens

4385
04:45:16,720 --> 04:45:18,939
to their animals when they're not doing their proper methodology.

4386
04:45:20,593 --> 04:45:23,052
Can I rebuttal on that one? Yes. Yes. I agree

4387
04:45:23,092 --> 04:45:26,652
with you. We have 15 minutes. Yes. I agree with

4388
04:45:26,692 --> 04:45:32,010
you. But it is extremely too dark over there. Let's

4389
04:45:32,010 --> 04:45:40,974
consider looking on getting more light. Mr. Manager. Yeah. We

4390
04:45:41,014 --> 04:45:44,174
can do an assessment of the lighting and that corner

4391
04:45:44,595 --> 04:45:47,934
and then come back with a recommendation. Thank you. Okay.

4392
04:45:48,115 --> 04:45:51,454
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Pose no. The

4393
04:45:51,454 --> 04:45:54,094
ayes have it. The item passes and we are now

4394
04:45:54,515 --> 04:45:58,414
moving on to item 16 F. License plate reader cameras

4395
04:45:58,595 --> 04:46:02,654
inquiry staff response and proposed resolution, which this requires a

4396
04:46:02,675 --> 04:46:06,014
waiver of 7. 2. It's been moved by advice mayor.

4397
04:46:06,014 --> 04:46:09,674
Is there a second? Second. Second by Councilman Garcia. All

4398
04:46:09,674 --> 04:46:12,574
those in favor of the waiver's AI. All opposed no.

4399
04:46:12,574 --> 04:46:14,894
The ayes have it. The rule is waived. And Mr.

4400
04:46:14,915 --> 04:46:17,534
Vice Mirror recognized proceed. Thank you Mr. Mayor. I'm going

4401
04:46:17,534 --> 04:46:19,454
to try to make this as brief as possible and

4402
04:46:19,494 --> 04:46:23,134
not completely long winded like my NBI is. Um, and

4403
04:46:23,155 --> 04:46:25,214
I hope, uh, you all had a chance to kind

4404
04:46:25,214 --> 04:46:30,094
of review it. This is basically a constitutional protection scheme.

4405
04:46:30,094 --> 04:46:32,974
Right. Um, we have seen the proliferation of flock style

4406
04:46:32,974 --> 04:46:37,134
cameras throughout the country and the privacy concerns that arise

4407
04:46:37,395 --> 04:46:40,814
with their proliferation. Um, this is aim that number one

4408
04:46:40,995 --> 04:46:44,454
ensuring that the concern originally arose in me, Hey, we

4409
04:46:44,454 --> 04:46:47,374
have these LPR cameras that were incredibly proud of and

4410
04:46:47,374 --> 04:46:51,614
they serve a very legitimate law enforcement function. However, my

4411
04:46:51,635 --> 04:46:54,174
concern was, okay, well, what's being done with the information

4412
04:46:54,835 --> 04:46:58,814
that is being collected from these cameras and can that

4413
04:46:58,835 --> 04:47:03,694
information potentially be fed and turned into flock style surveillance.

4414
04:47:03,694 --> 04:47:08,094
Um, my, that definitely got a lot louder. Uh, my,

4415
04:47:08,195 --> 04:47:13,214
my, um, understanding from the response from, from the town

4416
04:47:13,235 --> 04:47:17,454
staff is under the current contract with the privacy policy

4417
04:47:17,555 --> 04:47:20,574
that is in place, the answer is no. Um, you

4418
04:47:20,595 --> 04:47:22,894
guys know very much though that I like to make

4419
04:47:22,894 --> 04:47:27,054
sure that this council, which is smarter than all future

4420
04:47:27,054 --> 04:47:30,814
councils ties the hands of future councils, uh, so that

4421
04:47:30,814 --> 04:47:34,654
they can't create flux style cameras or at least they

4422
04:47:34,654 --> 04:47:39,134
have to go through some loopholes or through hoops. Thank

4423
04:47:39,134 --> 04:47:41,374
you. Uh, in order to do so. So that's why

4424
04:47:41,414 --> 04:47:45,694
I presented the attached resolution where basically the town council

4425
04:47:45,795 --> 04:47:50,334
affirms that Public Safety is the primary paramount concern of

4426
04:47:50,334 --> 04:47:54,334
this council. However, not at the cost of essential liberties.

4427
04:47:54,334 --> 04:47:56,814
And so with that, I will move the option of

4428
04:47:56,854 --> 04:48:00,014
the resolution. The second that by consumer fernandez. Oh, good

4429
04:48:00,014 --> 04:48:03,054
job. All right. Uh, any discussion on this. Yeah. Really

4430
04:48:03,054 --> 04:48:06,734
quick. Consume Garcia and Coutzberg. Is your concern that of

4431
04:48:06,734 --> 04:48:09,214
course any, any video or data is only used by

4432
04:48:09,315 --> 04:48:13,189
our police officers. Not sure what the general public. To

4433
04:48:13,229 --> 04:48:16,229
strengthen those, those rules here. And for any contracts we

4434
04:48:16,269 --> 04:48:21,509
have with these camera with LPRs or with simple manner.

4435
04:48:21,509 --> 04:48:23,829
Yes. Okay. I just, the only thing I don't want

4436
04:48:23,829 --> 04:48:25,829
to do is tie the hands of our police officers

4437
04:48:26,170 --> 04:48:28,929
who can use it as tools that are, you know,

4438
04:48:28,929 --> 04:48:31,029
cameras are used as tools and they're able to trace

4439
04:48:31,029 --> 04:48:33,549
back even when they don't have OPRs. They able to

4440
04:48:33,610 --> 04:48:37,349
trace back, uh, suspects walking through neighborhoods, driving through parking

4441
04:48:37,389 --> 04:48:39,989
lots and a lot of, a lot of suspects of

4442
04:48:39,989 --> 04:48:41,509
it. So I just don't want to make sure that

4443
04:48:41,530 --> 04:48:44,389
anything we do doesn't tie the hands of my understanding

4444
04:48:44,490 --> 04:48:47,429
is that as it stands, they cannot do that. That

4445
04:48:47,429 --> 04:48:50,149
they can, they only really have live pings of the

4446
04:48:50,330 --> 04:48:53,109
license plate readers. No, don't talk about the LPRs. You're

4447
04:48:53,109 --> 04:48:54,789
talking about flock cameras. Those are two different things. Well,

4448
04:48:55,930 --> 04:48:58,309
what I this all started because my concern was that

4449
04:48:58,490 --> 04:49:03,429
the data from the LPRs could, in theory, be manipulated

4450
04:49:03,770 --> 04:49:07,109
and turned into flock. Okay. So this is specifically aimed

4451
04:49:07,130 --> 04:49:10,149
at preventing flock. It doesn't tie their hands at all.

4452
04:49:10,250 --> 04:49:12,069
That makes sense. Like the mosaic theory that we learned

4453
04:49:12,109 --> 04:49:15,889
in law school, you know, they're the Fourth Amendment. All

4454
04:49:15,889 --> 04:49:19,349
right. So with that, if nobody's a second, I forgot

4455
04:49:19,349 --> 04:49:22,209
that. I forgot the council Herzberg also had something. You

4456
04:49:22,209 --> 04:49:25,189
good? No, yeah. I have a comment. Thank you, Mayor.

4457
04:49:25,189 --> 04:49:29,669
All right. Um, first I appreciate the Ben Franklin quote.

4458
04:49:29,669 --> 04:49:31,509
That's nice. I'm more of a Madison guy, but Ben

4459
04:49:31,549 --> 04:49:36,149
Franklin's a good one too. Um, I, I'm going, obviously

4460
04:49:36,330 --> 04:49:38,389
I'm going to approve this, but I would like to

4461
04:49:38,429 --> 04:49:42,251
see this come back as an ordinance. Resolution, we could

4462
04:49:42,251 --> 04:49:44,571
say, I don't care what they did 10 years ago.

4463
04:49:44,571 --> 04:49:47,611
So my recommendation, I'm not making amendment. I would like

4464
04:49:47,792 --> 04:49:50,171
you to bring this back as an ordinance as well.

4465
04:49:50,211 --> 04:49:52,091
We really want to, it still doesn't, it still doesn't

4466
04:49:52,352 --> 04:49:54,811
codify. It still isn't tight. A council's hand, but then

4467
04:49:54,811 --> 04:49:58,251
they got to go through two readings. Right now all

4468
04:49:58,291 --> 04:49:59,771
they have to do is in 10 years from now

4469
04:50:00,672 --> 04:50:02,731
flocks are the best thing ever. And let's just ignore

4470
04:50:02,771 --> 04:50:05,131
the resolution. So I would like you to bring back

4471
04:50:05,392 --> 04:50:08,251
an ordinance on the same time. But moving in front

4472
04:50:08,251 --> 04:50:11,131
of the majority requirement. Yeah. Exactly. So let's, let's bring

4473
04:50:11,312 --> 04:50:13,211
an ordinance back on this. So are you unmenting the

4474
04:50:13,251 --> 04:50:16,677
motion. No, I'm just going to ask him to bring

4475
04:50:16,677 --> 04:50:19,237
back to ordinance. Well, okay. We were going to bring

4476
04:50:19,277 --> 04:50:21,637
it back anyways because that's been the practice of the

4477
04:50:21,738 --> 04:50:25,237
council, even when Resolutions ordinances are attached. We always bring

4478
04:50:25,338 --> 04:50:28,197
it back similar to like the ordinance on the employee

4479
04:50:30,138 --> 04:50:33,477
policy. So we can bring this back, we can massage

4480
04:50:33,477 --> 04:50:36,277
it into an ordinance instead of a resolution. And we'll

4481
04:50:36,277 --> 04:50:39,317
bring it back next month. Okay. Yeah. As long as

4482
04:50:39,317 --> 04:50:40,837
the vice mayor is okay. It's his item. Then let's

4483
04:50:40,837 --> 04:50:44,117
do that. Matt will also give us to council member

4484
04:50:44,138 --> 04:50:47,157
Garcia's point. That'll give us an opportunity to really look

4485
04:50:47,197 --> 04:50:49,957
at the fine print with the Miami - Dade Sheriff's

4486
04:50:49,997 --> 04:50:53,049
Office and make sure that we're good. Okay. All those

4487
04:50:53,089 --> 04:50:56,169
in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. The ayes

4488
04:50:56,169 --> 04:50:58,569
have it. And we are now on 16J Veterans Memorial

4489
04:50:58,609 --> 04:51:02,969
at Veterans Park, which requires a 7. 2 waiver. Some

4490
04:51:02,969 --> 04:51:06,089
of them. Wait, what? Gary Cardenas, the veterans commit. Oh,

4491
04:51:06,129 --> 04:51:10,809
my apologies. Yes. You are correct. Okay. So let's go

4492
04:51:10,809 --> 04:51:14,169
back to 16G. I crossed it off by accident and

4493
04:51:14,169 --> 04:51:16,969
anticipation of it being next. So that's what happened on

4494
04:51:17,009 --> 04:51:21,929
my list. All right. So 16G, Gary Cardenas VC. So

4495
04:51:21,969 --> 04:51:26,089
waiver. Yes, I need a weaver. Okay. Two by the

4496
04:51:26,129 --> 04:51:28,809
Vice Mayor second. Second. Second. Second hit by Council Member

4497
04:51:28,849 --> 04:51:32,089
Garcia. All those in favor of the waiver aye. Opposed

4498
04:51:32,190 --> 04:51:36,329
no. Ayes have it. Rule is waved. Go ahead, countsman.

4499
04:51:36,369 --> 04:51:39,849
So Doodle, a personal family health related issues. Gary Cardenos

4500
04:51:39,950 --> 04:51:42,249
missed several meetings with cause causes removal from the Veterans

4501
04:51:42,289 --> 04:51:46,009
Committee. Since then, his situation, his family situation has improved

4502
04:51:46,830 --> 04:51:50,489
quite well. Um, and it is my recommendation that Gary

4503
04:51:51,470 --> 04:51:54,009
comes back to the committee with a waiver of committee

4504
04:51:54,030 --> 04:51:59,091
rule 11h due to the 180 day requirement. I'll second

4505
04:51:59,131 --> 04:52:02,092
your motion. And we'll start with you for discussion if

4506
04:52:02,092 --> 04:52:04,012
there is any. All right. Does anyone have discussion? All

4507
04:52:04,012 --> 04:52:07,932
right. All those in favor of CI. I'll oppose no.

4508
04:52:07,932 --> 04:52:10,572
The ayes have it. And the motion carries, which brings

4509
04:52:10,572 --> 04:52:13,932
us now to 16J, veterans or more of veterans Park,

4510
04:52:13,932 --> 04:52:17,252
which requires 07. 2 waiver. So moved. So moved. Is

4511
04:52:17,252 --> 04:52:19,452
there a second? Second. It's been seconded. All those in

4512
04:52:19,452 --> 04:52:22,572
favor of the waivers say aye. Opposed no. The ayes

4513
04:52:22,572 --> 04:52:24,492
have it. The rule is weight. Ms. Vice Mayor. Thank

4514
04:52:24,492 --> 04:52:28,892
you Mr. Mayor again. Uh, this, uh, NBI speaks for

4515
04:52:28,932 --> 04:52:32,332
itself as written. But I did just kind of want

4516
04:52:32,332 --> 04:52:34,092
to give the quick background that I was approached by

4517
04:52:34,193 --> 04:52:38,732
the kernel, uh, at the last, um, Miami - Dakes

4518
04:52:38,732 --> 04:52:43,812
chamber of Commerce Luncheon, at which Mr. Brian Avila, as

4519
04:52:43,812 --> 04:52:46,632
well as Tom Fabricio and Alex Rizzo were present. And

4520
04:52:46,632 --> 04:52:52,332
apparently he was able to actually get Senator Avila to

4521
04:52:52,753 --> 04:52:55,692
commit, hey, if you guys make the request, we can

4522
04:52:55,732 --> 04:52:58,252
probably get you the money right now, better in items

4523
04:52:58,353 --> 04:53:02,012
are kind of hot and not getting the veto pen.

4524
04:53:02,012 --> 04:53:08,732
So, so, uh, if we amend our appropriations priorities to

4525
04:53:08,732 --> 04:53:11,252
include this, that the solid chance of getting it. So

4526
04:53:11,473 --> 04:53:14,892
this is simply that, uh, again, I provided a proposed

4527
04:53:14,913 --> 04:53:18,892
resolution if the town staff wants to massage it. They're

4528
04:53:18,892 --> 04:53:21,372
more than welcome to. Also second, okay, perfect. I'll give

4529
04:53:21,412 --> 04:53:24,012
it a councilman sanchez and discussion. Do you mind if

4530
04:53:24,052 --> 04:53:26,332
we co - sponsor it with you? I mean, it's

4531
04:53:26,332 --> 04:53:28,972
going to be part of our amended list. I'd love

4532
04:53:28,972 --> 04:53:32,012
to call it. Madam Kirk Reflect the entire council as

4533
04:53:32,033 --> 04:53:34,012
a sponsor on this. With that, all those in favor

4534
04:53:34,052 --> 04:53:37,692
of say aye. All opposed no. You guys have it.

4535
04:53:37,692 --> 04:53:40,292
The motion carries. And before I continue, I'm going to

4536
04:53:40,513 --> 04:53:44,572
ask for a motion to extend to 11 10 p.

4537
04:53:44,572 --> 04:53:48,012
m. It's been moved. Well, you mean, uh, yeah, you're

4538
04:53:48,012 --> 04:53:49,532
right. I asked for it. All right. I'll second that.

4539
04:53:50,789 --> 04:53:52,768
And, uh, with that, all those in favor of the

4540
04:53:52,808 --> 04:53:56,448
motion to extend, say aye. Aye. Opposed no. The ideas

4541
04:53:56,448 --> 04:53:59,168
have it. And so we have now then until 11,

4542
04:53:59,168 --> 04:54:01,168
10 to wrap up our business. And the only two

4543
04:54:01,168 --> 04:54:03,328
more left. So we are now on 17 a. Mayor

4544
04:54:03,328 --> 04:54:05,968
and council member reports beginning with the standards of conduct

4545
04:54:05,989 --> 04:54:10,224
and competence. I want to begin by saying that repeatedly

4546
04:54:10,325 --> 04:54:13,504
over the last couple of months, especially the last couple

4547
04:54:13,504 --> 04:54:16,224
of years, I've made a very abundantly clear that there

4548
04:54:16,245 --> 04:54:19,424
is an expectation that we live up to what is

4549
04:54:19,445 --> 04:54:23,024
expected of us as council members and that we comport

4550
04:54:23,024 --> 04:54:26,679
ourselves that way, but also that we are prepared. And

4551
04:54:26,700 --> 04:54:30,439
I have to say respectfully, counseling quadric Garcia, I feel

4552
04:54:30,780 --> 04:54:32,759
as if you have been giving us a lot of

4553
04:54:32,940 --> 04:54:36,359
harburn lately. You did good today. You were with it.

4554
04:54:36,620 --> 04:54:38,919
You know, you weren't, uh, you know, confuse as to

4555
04:54:38,919 --> 04:54:41,619
what we were voting on. And you were not, um,

4556
04:54:42,380 --> 04:54:44,499
you were able to keep up, which I appreciate. But

4557
04:54:44,499 --> 04:54:48,991
we need that effort all the time. More importantly though,

4558
04:54:49,652 --> 04:54:51,791
I was very disappointed. And this is the only chance

4559
04:54:51,831 --> 04:54:53,291
really that I get to speak about it. So, you

4560
04:54:53,291 --> 04:54:54,191
know, I need to bring it up. I was very

4561
04:54:54,212 --> 04:54:56,591
disappointed to read the cease and desist letter that we

4562
04:54:56,631 --> 04:55:00,571
received by the owners of Vister Memorial, uh, gardens. Um,

4563
04:55:00,772 --> 04:55:02,991
and, you know, I, I just want to say that

4564
04:55:03,092 --> 04:55:05,391
I expect so much better out of all of us.

4565
04:55:05,391 --> 04:55:08,351
Okay. When we were the shirt that says council member

4566
04:55:08,452 --> 04:55:11,711
or in my case mayor, we are representing the town.

4567
04:55:11,711 --> 04:55:14,431
Our conduct needs to reflect that. You know, and we

4568
04:55:14,452 --> 04:55:19,631
also need to respect the responsibilities that properly reside with

4569
04:55:19,671 --> 04:55:22,111
the code department and let them, if you have some

4570
04:55:22,132 --> 04:55:25,071
concern about something going on, you communicate it to them

4571
04:55:25,092 --> 04:55:29,311
through the manager, right? But again, that could result, like

4572
04:55:29,332 --> 04:55:31,951
your actions that you took could result in legal jeopardy

4573
04:55:31,951 --> 04:55:34,271
for the talent and is a problem, you know, and

4574
04:55:34,311 --> 04:55:36,671
it's not the first time that I've been contacted by

4575
04:55:36,772 --> 04:55:39,711
the way, you know, and the manager knows what I'm

4576
04:55:39,711 --> 04:55:41,791
talking about, you know, where there have been others that

4577
04:55:41,791 --> 04:55:44,511
have complained about your conduct while you're carrying yourself as

4578
04:55:44,511 --> 04:55:47,631
accounts member. And that is just something that I specifically

4579
04:55:47,671 --> 04:55:50,591
needed to call to your attention to make sure that

4580
04:55:51,492 --> 04:55:56,271
you understand the seriousness of this. Understood. Because again, the

4581
04:55:56,271 --> 04:55:58,431
certain standard that when we are elected, that we are

4582
04:55:58,452 --> 04:56:02,111
expected to hold ourselves to and running around conducting freelance

4583
04:56:02,151 --> 04:56:04,751
inspections, you know, wearing accounts membership is not one of

4584
04:56:04,751 --> 04:56:07,391
them. Right. You know, and it's a violation of their

4585
04:56:07,391 --> 04:56:10,031
fourth amendment right I would add. So from what I

4586
04:56:10,071 --> 04:56:13,427
understand, Mr. Attorney. You know, the attorney, Mr. Yaffe has

4587
04:56:13,448 --> 04:56:16,267
indicated that he is not taking any further action. Is

4588
04:56:16,267 --> 04:56:18,627
that correct? That is correct. At this time, he's not

4589
04:56:18,627 --> 04:56:21,347
thinking any further action. Okay. But you know, that, that

4590
04:56:21,448 --> 04:56:24,947
again, I do not want to see that happen again.

4591
04:56:24,947 --> 04:56:27,667
And I just want to be abundantly clear about that.

4592
04:56:27,667 --> 04:56:34,523
Understood. I think we have, uh, the information totally confused.

4593
04:56:34,523 --> 04:56:38,043
It would take some time. I want to clarify that.

4594
04:56:38,043 --> 04:56:39,563
But it ain't going to be right now. So we

4595
04:56:39,563 --> 04:56:42,443
need to prepare. Sunshine meeting so I can explain everything

4596
04:56:43,104 --> 04:56:45,403
so we can clarify it because I need to make

4597
04:56:45,443 --> 04:56:48,683
it very clear. And basically, and I'll tell you this

4598
04:56:48,683 --> 04:56:51,323
in front of whoever, I am so, I will bring

4599
04:56:51,424 --> 04:56:53,223
the media. You want to that day so we can

4600
04:56:53,223 --> 04:56:56,213
put it on TV. Well, if wing the media then

4601
04:56:56,234 --> 04:56:57,653
do essentially. I mean, when you can just say right

4602
04:56:57,653 --> 04:57:00,533
now on the record. That's good. Let's take it on.

4603
04:57:00,573 --> 04:57:02,693
So let me, let me make sure that I clear

4604
04:57:02,954 --> 04:57:08,373
myself. Okay. There's things going on stating that I have

4605
04:57:08,714 --> 04:57:14,499
a vendetta with this funeral home. Let me tell you

4606
04:57:14,600 --> 04:57:20,811
something real brief. Okay. I do not. But. There are

4607
04:57:21,072 --> 04:57:25,011
numerous, numerous. Pay attention to me because I'm going to

4608
04:57:25,011 --> 04:57:28,171
be very clear now. You opened it up. I'm going

4609
04:57:28,171 --> 04:57:34,769
to close it. Good. Okay. Um, this cemetery has hundreds

4610
04:57:35,430 --> 04:57:41,885
of hundreds of violations. And they have hundreds of letters

4611
04:57:42,306 --> 04:57:45,965
that I can bring them to whoever they want. They

4612
04:57:45,965 --> 04:57:50,134
have numerous complaints. Whoever tells you that a building not

4613
04:57:50,174 --> 04:57:54,374
having proper painting for 35 years is not a violation.

4614
04:57:54,374 --> 04:57:57,014
And having rebar popping out of the concrete is not

4615
04:57:57,054 --> 04:58:00,704
a violation. And let me clear it again. I went

4616
04:58:00,725 --> 04:58:03,824
there and I went there with my shirt. I was

4617
04:58:03,845 --> 04:58:06,304
told by somebody else that I didn't commit a violation

4618
04:58:06,645 --> 04:58:09,984
by using my shirt. Okay. Let's say I use the

4619
04:58:09,984 --> 04:58:12,944
shirt, but I never went there to tell them what

4620
04:58:12,984 --> 04:58:18,241
to do. I went there. Representing myself. My family is

4621
04:58:18,281 --> 04:58:21,121
there. I have over eight family members there. I have

4622
04:58:21,161 --> 04:58:24,401
talked to them in the past. Over 20 years ago,

4623
04:58:24,401 --> 04:58:27,201
I have talked to them. So what actually got me

4624
04:58:27,241 --> 04:58:31,826
upset was so you guys all know it. In 14

4625
04:58:31,866 --> 04:58:36,226
years ago, my little brother died of cancer and I

4626
04:58:36,266 --> 04:58:39,666
call them from hospice. They sent me an individual to

4627
04:58:39,666 --> 04:58:42,626
go pick up my brother six foot three inch body.

4628
04:58:43,359 --> 04:58:44,858
And the gentleman that came to pick up the body

4629
04:58:46,959 --> 04:58:49,810
must have been on some type of meth. I told

4630
04:58:49,831 --> 04:58:51,410
the guy, I said, buddy, you're not picking up my

4631
04:58:51,450 --> 04:58:54,210
brother. Well, make a long story short. He went into

4632
04:58:54,231 --> 04:58:56,290
the room. He didn't listen to me. And he dropped

4633
04:58:56,330 --> 04:59:01,449
my brother's body. From the gurney. Happens to be that

4634
04:59:01,950 --> 04:59:06,009
once he drops my brother's body, he opened a hole

4635
04:59:06,049 --> 04:59:11,898
in my brother's forehead. I did a grieving son. I

4636
04:59:11,898 --> 04:59:14,098
said, and I'm going to follow you. It's two o'clock

4637
04:59:14,138 --> 04:59:15,698
in the morning. I'm going to follow you to the

4638
04:59:15,799 --> 04:59:18,818
cemetery. I'm sorry. I'm a little emotional. And I think

4639
04:59:18,818 --> 04:59:21,778
that if some of you would have passed through this,

4640
04:59:21,778 --> 04:59:24,978
you guys would probably be emotional also. So make a

4641
04:59:24,978 --> 04:59:27,858
long story short. Okay. He made a hole in my

4642
04:59:28,119 --> 04:59:31,456
brother's head. I went to the cemetery. The next day.

4643
04:59:32,216 --> 04:59:35,161
And they, I said, bring all my brother's body. He

4644
04:59:35,262 --> 04:59:38,761
brought my brother's body. I said, this hole wasn't there

4645
04:59:38,761 --> 04:59:42,510
when my brother passed. So they, and I, and I,

4646
04:59:42,550 --> 04:59:44,750
I did what I had to do. I have no

4647
04:59:44,771 --> 04:59:50,523
vendetta with them. Somebody needs to go there. To see

4648
04:59:50,523 --> 04:59:53,723
what I'm talking about. They have the place is falling

4649
04:59:53,984 --> 05:00:00,307
apart. They haven't painted the place in years. And if

4650
05:00:00,307 --> 05:00:04,067
violations aren't what I have videos, pictures of, I have

4651
05:00:04,107 --> 05:00:07,907
pictures of, but listen, I have pictures of right where

4652
05:00:08,168 --> 05:00:10,787
my, where my dad is buried. Listen, this is important.

4653
05:00:11,746 --> 05:00:14,205
Peace is a concrete almost killed my mom one day.

4654
05:00:14,773 --> 05:00:17,952
And I never, so there are violations that we're looking

4655
05:00:19,253 --> 05:00:24,260
and looking and using the blind eye. So you know

4656
05:00:24,260 --> 05:00:27,391
what? I'm going to let it cool down. But somebody

4657
05:00:27,412 --> 05:00:32,151
else is, and I believe that God is going to

4658
05:00:32,151 --> 05:00:34,031
take care of it. But you know what? When somebody

4659
05:00:34,212 --> 05:00:38,064
from here goes there and sees it. We don't need

4660
05:00:38,064 --> 05:00:42,941
to be scared of people. The dead don't scare. The

4661
05:00:42,941 --> 05:00:44,481
live ones are going to scare me, but they are

4662
05:00:44,521 --> 05:00:50,737
violations. They are violations. But to you, it might not

4663
05:00:50,737 --> 05:00:54,897
be a violation. But anyways, um, I never went in

4664
05:00:54,937 --> 05:00:59,197
there to tell them anything I just said, here are

4665
05:00:59,197 --> 05:01:04,017
letters that people have sent in where, um, there's complaints

4666
05:01:04,278 --> 05:01:08,177
on how you've treated their family members. Well, they're going

4667
05:01:08,217 --> 05:01:11,137
through a grievance. And they go, no, no, no, it's

4668
05:01:11,137 --> 05:01:13,857
not here. It's over there. And over there said, no,

4669
05:01:13,857 --> 05:01:17,057
it's over there. We're John is. All I want to

4670
05:01:17,057 --> 05:01:19,912
do is just nicely went to talk to them. And

4671
05:01:20,333 --> 05:01:23,272
just talk to them on my name. I never used

4672
05:01:23,453 --> 05:01:26,526
it down in my name. But the problem is that

4673
05:01:26,547 --> 05:01:30,126
when you're wearing our uniform, regardless of what you intended

4674
05:01:30,387 --> 05:01:33,486
and then you start bringing up legal concepts, like code

4675
05:01:33,486 --> 05:01:37,006
violation, which is not your call to make by the

4676
05:01:37,006 --> 05:01:40,766
way, you know, that creates a problem for us. The

4677
05:01:40,766 --> 05:01:43,246
only issue is that they had an issue. A lady

4678
05:01:43,246 --> 05:01:46,606
told me with an elevator. And they said they took

4679
05:01:46,606 --> 05:01:48,926
care of it. But I never told them, I never

4680
05:01:48,966 --> 05:01:53,406
told them, I never went in there telling them how

4681
05:01:53,446 --> 05:01:56,328
to do things. Um, and if I did use my

4682
05:01:56,429 --> 05:02:00,248
shirt, um, uh, you did use your shirt. You had

4683
05:02:00,349 --> 05:02:02,568
not, that you acknowledge as much. I did use my

4684
05:02:02,608 --> 05:02:06,008
shirt. And I was, I never even intended to even

4685
05:02:06,109 --> 05:02:08,888
use my shirt. I even told Gazzesny, I'm probably not

4686
05:02:08,888 --> 05:02:10,888
even going to wear that shirt anymore. Yeah. And for

4687
05:02:10,928 --> 05:02:13,848
the record, I was already working closely with, uh, Danny

4688
05:02:13,888 --> 05:02:17,848
Angel and the manager and the folks there at Vista

4689
05:02:17,949 --> 05:02:20,728
to resolve that elevator issue. You know, like you did

4690
05:02:20,768 --> 05:02:23,208
not need to go and handle it yourself, right? Their

4691
05:02:23,208 --> 05:02:25,288
appropriate channels to go through. But with that, Mr. Vice

4692
05:02:25,328 --> 05:02:28,168
Mayor, he's been chomping at the bit to add something.

4693
05:02:28,168 --> 05:02:31,528
Yeah. So first and foremost, I want to say at

4694
05:02:31,528 --> 05:02:34,248
a ground level and all this, this is the first

4695
05:02:34,248 --> 05:02:37,048
time I've heard you say what happened with, with your

4696
05:02:37,069 --> 05:02:39,768
brother and the incident with his body. And it's the

4697
05:02:39,768 --> 05:02:42,328
first time I've heard it from you. I won't lie

4698
05:02:42,429 --> 05:02:45,128
though. I'm no problem telling you. I had heard the

4699
05:02:45,168 --> 05:02:47,608
story before from others. Uh, so I had an idea

4700
05:02:47,949 --> 05:02:50,868
of, of what was going on in the background. But

4701
05:02:50,868 --> 05:02:53,608
I also do want to point out that you're saying

4702
05:02:53,629 --> 05:02:56,408
on the one hand that you don't have a vendetta,

4703
05:02:56,408 --> 05:02:58,888
but you quite literally said the words, but what really

4704
05:02:58,928 --> 05:03:01,288
upsets me is and then you began saying the story

4705
05:03:01,288 --> 05:03:05,939
about your brother. So it's quite literally a vendetta. It

4706
05:03:05,960 --> 05:03:11,379
is, I have something against this entity, this, this cemetery,

4707
05:03:11,379 --> 05:03:13,139
because of what they did to my brother. So I

4708
05:03:13,160 --> 05:03:15,139
have an axe to grind with them. And so now

4709
05:03:15,240 --> 05:03:18,419
I'm looking at every single little defect that they could

4710
05:03:18,440 --> 05:03:22,579
potentially have to bring justice, whether that's right or wrong,

4711
05:03:22,579 --> 05:03:25,234
right? Whether that's right or wrong. It is quite literally

4712
05:03:25,975 --> 05:03:29,994
a vendetta. Um, I also want to point out, I

4713
05:03:29,994 --> 05:03:32,514
don't really care whether or not you were wearing your

4714
05:03:32,535 --> 05:03:36,441
shirt. You show up just like we do on almost

4715
05:03:36,462 --> 05:03:39,961
every issue of the Miami Laker. So your face is

4716
05:03:39,982 --> 05:03:44,877
known. People see you and they generally speaking will know

4717
05:03:44,877 --> 05:03:46,877
who you are. They'll know that they at a minimum

4718
05:03:47,378 --> 05:03:49,597
saw you. They know who you're faced from somewhere. And

4719
05:03:49,597 --> 05:03:51,357
then they'll connect the dots. So even if you're not

4720
05:03:51,378 --> 05:03:53,597
wearing your shirt to me whether or not you're wearing

4721
05:03:53,698 --> 05:03:56,637
it, it's kind of irrelevant. It's are you acting in

4722
05:03:56,677 --> 05:03:59,837
your capacity as a member of the council. And everything

4723
05:03:59,858 --> 05:04:02,957
that I saw in that season, the cyst letter indicated

4724
05:04:02,997 --> 05:04:06,557
to me that you absolutely were trying to use your

4725
05:04:06,658 --> 05:04:10,717
position as a member of this council to effectuate some

4726
05:04:10,818 --> 05:04:16,508
behavior or action from the cemetery. I also have to

4727
05:04:16,548 --> 05:04:19,468
say, I did see the pictures that you submitted to

4728
05:04:19,468 --> 05:04:23,468
the town manager and to, uh, the building director and

4729
05:04:23,508 --> 05:04:25,548
building director. You're welcome to chime in if I'm wrong.

4730
05:04:26,412 --> 05:04:29,111
My understanding is you have not yet photographed a single

4731
05:04:29,932 --> 05:04:34,631
actual, actionable violation that is actionable under our town's code.

4732
05:04:35,350 --> 05:04:37,809
There may be certain things that are beyond the town

4733
05:04:37,990 --> 05:04:41,409
code and included in things that are enforced at the

4734
05:04:41,449 --> 05:04:47,249
county level, maybe, uh, from, from, you know, more, what

4735
05:04:47,249 --> 05:04:50,449
is the structural safety point of view? But that's not

4736
05:04:50,470 --> 05:04:53,969
really the towns. The other point that I wanted to

4737
05:04:53,969 --> 05:04:57,969
bring up is that, you know, I think everyone up

4738
05:04:57,969 --> 05:05:02,609
here has run on a small government platform. Right. You

4739
05:05:02,649 --> 05:05:05,489
can't run on a small government platform and then run

4740
05:05:05,489 --> 05:05:10,529
around violating people's constitutional rights. That business is a landowner.

4741
05:05:10,529 --> 05:05:14,209
It is entitled to its fourth amendment protections under the

4742
05:05:14,310 --> 05:05:19,969
Constitution, which you violated because you performed, uh, warrantless inspection.

4743
05:05:20,709 --> 05:05:24,860
And search of their property. Without even notifying us about

4744
05:05:24,900 --> 05:05:30,457
it. And just to be crystal clear, and I'm only

4745
05:05:30,497 --> 05:05:34,617
now saying this because it's been indicated that they don't

4746
05:05:34,638 --> 05:05:37,317
intend to take any legal action. And at the end

4747
05:05:37,317 --> 05:05:39,657
of the day, I also don't find that the town

4748
05:05:39,838 --> 05:05:43,017
has any liability because I think it's been abundantly clear

4749
05:05:43,057 --> 05:05:46,057
that the town did not, does not and does not

4750
05:05:46,398 --> 05:05:49,897
support your actions. Um, as far as the cemetery is

4751
05:05:49,897 --> 05:05:52,377
concerned. And I'm not sure what else the mayor was

4752
05:05:52,417 --> 05:05:56,377
referring to other activities, but, um, you know, you need

4753
05:05:56,377 --> 05:06:01,657
to understand. You have attended those ethics courses with us,

4754
05:06:01,657 --> 05:06:04,617
with me and consuman sanchez. You can't let what you

4755
05:06:04,657 --> 05:06:06,297
hear and there go in one ear and out the

4756
05:06:06,297 --> 05:06:08,857
other. You know, I'm just going to say it out

4757
05:06:08,857 --> 05:06:12,457
there. I need you to also remember what the sunshine

4758
05:06:12,457 --> 05:06:14,297
rule says. I get a lot of phone calls from

4759
05:06:14,337 --> 05:06:16,777
you and I have to constantly stop you, stop you,

4760
05:06:16,817 --> 05:06:21,817
stop you because you're teetering on the line. And it

4761
05:06:21,817 --> 05:06:25,286
gets very draining. At a certain point to have to

4762
05:06:25,286 --> 05:06:28,246
constantly be, you know, when I get phone calls from,

4763
05:06:28,267 --> 05:06:34,966
from Councilman Sanchez or from Mayor Diegas, I don't have

4764
05:06:34,966 --> 05:06:37,126
to have my guard up. They know what they can

4765
05:06:37,147 --> 05:06:39,446
and cannot tell me. And I don't have to have

4766
05:06:39,486 --> 05:06:41,366
my guard up nine times out of 10. If he's

4767
05:06:41,366 --> 05:06:44,566
calling me, it's either some attorney stuff or some scheduling

4768
05:06:44,587 --> 05:06:46,726
stuff because he can't make it somewhere. So he's seeing

4769
05:06:46,747 --> 05:06:49,646
if I can make it, that's what it is. Or

4770
05:06:49,646 --> 05:06:53,106
this one's calling me to tell me about, you know,

4771
05:06:55,067 --> 05:06:58,966
what was it? Well, yeah, when the next cruise is.

4772
05:06:58,966 --> 05:07:01,106
And when his new car is finally coming in, uh,

4773
05:07:01,387 --> 05:07:04,166
but, but, you know, we talk about things other than

4774
05:07:04,166 --> 05:07:05,926
that. And I don't have to worry that he's suddenly

4775
05:07:05,947 --> 05:07:07,686
going to pick up the phone and say, Hey, I

4776
05:07:07,726 --> 05:07:09,326
need to tell you about this issue that's going to

4777
05:07:09,467 --> 05:07:12,646
come up. And I'm like, eh, put the brakes on,

4778
05:07:12,646 --> 05:07:16,806
you know, and that's where it can get a little

4779
05:07:17,147 --> 05:07:19,926
draining. So just, just be on the lookout for it.

4780
05:07:19,926 --> 05:07:23,286
Be cognizant of it and, you know, let's just do

4781
05:07:23,467 --> 05:07:27,126
best so that we can serve the residents within the

4782
05:07:27,227 --> 05:07:31,286
rules established by the state for us serving the residents.

4783
05:07:31,387 --> 05:07:36,776
Councilman Sanchez. Councilman Cuadra Garcia completely understand where you're coming

4784
05:07:36,776 --> 05:07:40,296
from. Okay. Because family means everything to all of us.

4785
05:07:40,296 --> 05:07:41,956
It's not just you. It's to all of us. And

4786
05:07:41,956 --> 05:07:44,436
I can understand the frustrations that you went through. But

4787
05:07:44,436 --> 05:07:46,856
we also have to set aside something that I said

4788
05:07:46,896 --> 05:07:51,052
for a long time. They're professional. From the personal. Okay.

4789
05:07:51,713 --> 05:07:55,468
We are in a position of public trust. Okay. Even

4790
05:07:55,508 --> 05:07:57,968
when I was working for the federal government, I had

4791
05:07:57,968 --> 05:08:00,508
a security clearance. I got to a point of autopsecret

4792
05:08:00,508 --> 05:08:03,068
one, but the first one was a clearance of Public

4793
05:08:03,169 --> 05:08:06,022
Trust. And that word means a lot. The people have

4794
05:08:06,123 --> 05:08:11,036
trusted us, seven, two represent them. But it's not just

4795
05:08:11,137 --> 05:08:14,092
a residence, it's the businesses and everything else. We are

4796
05:08:14,433 --> 05:08:19,812
not overarching the body of authority over Miami Lakes. We

4797
05:08:19,812 --> 05:08:22,572
have law enforcement. Anyway, at the federal level, there's a

4798
05:08:22,593 --> 05:08:27,217
balance. Between judicial legislative and executive. Where the president can't

4799
05:08:27,217 --> 05:08:30,177
even speak to, for example, the Supreme Court justice, right?

4800
05:08:30,177 --> 05:08:36,637
Because the balance of power. For us to say, oh,

4801
05:08:37,058 --> 05:08:39,197
I'm a councilman and I can do this. We can't.

4802
05:08:39,921 --> 05:08:42,700
We can't. We're here to make sure that the body

4803
05:08:42,740 --> 05:08:46,380
of Miami Lakes moves in a positive way. We're here

4804
05:08:46,420 --> 05:08:50,540
to set ordinances and resolutions for others to carry out,

4805
05:08:50,540 --> 05:08:53,380
but not ourselves. So if you feel like therefore, I

4806
05:08:53,380 --> 05:08:55,740
see a neighbor and I feel like his house needs

4807
05:08:55,841 --> 05:08:59,260
pain. It's a violation of ordinance 13 - 1306. Part

4808
05:08:59,260 --> 05:09:02,460
of me, Councilman Mama Bear is watching and reminded me

4809
05:09:02,460 --> 05:09:04,820
that we're one minute away from our time limit. So

4810
05:09:04,820 --> 05:09:06,940
I'm going to move to extend to 1130 just to

4811
05:09:06,940 --> 05:09:08,460
save a second. We know we have that report. Okay.

4812
05:09:08,460 --> 05:09:09,820
It's been moving second. Did it all do in favor

4813
05:09:09,860 --> 05:09:13,340
say aye. Aye. Opposed no. The ayes have it. The

4814
05:09:13,340 --> 05:09:16,140
council meeting is not extended to 11. What'd I say?

4815
05:09:16,180 --> 05:09:19,260
1130? Yeah. 1130 PM. So I don't knock on that

4816
05:09:19,260 --> 05:09:20,780
neighbors door and tell them, Hey, you're pain is bad

4817
05:09:20,820 --> 05:09:23,389
and your roof is dirty. I'm like, you know what?

4818
05:09:23,389 --> 05:09:25,389
This seems a bit suspicious. So I reach out to

4819
05:09:25,429 --> 05:09:27,229
the town manager and he filters it out to the

4820
05:09:27,229 --> 05:09:30,189
proper departments. Or if I see a pot horror lifted

4821
05:09:30,229 --> 05:09:33,823
sidewalk or something that just doesn't look right. But for

4822
05:09:33,924 --> 05:09:35,503
me to say, Hey, or I'm going to pull over

4823
05:09:35,764 --> 05:09:37,503
a car because I see them speeding. We don't have

4824
05:09:37,604 --> 05:09:40,223
the ability to do that. We don't. We're not law

4825
05:09:40,223 --> 05:09:42,943
enforcement. We're not quoting fortunate. We set the guidelines for

4826
05:09:42,943 --> 05:09:47,743
them to do their duties. But we do not carry

4827
05:09:47,844 --> 05:09:54,429
out those students. Now. As a safeguard, okay. Because I

4828
05:09:54,429 --> 05:09:55,709
know that this is going to take some time to

4829
05:09:55,749 --> 05:09:58,749
digest and some acclimating to get used to. As a

4830
05:09:58,789 --> 05:10:02,509
safeguard to protect the town from potential litigation, because if

4831
05:10:02,930 --> 05:10:04,749
as a representative of the town, they can turn around

4832
05:10:04,770 --> 05:10:07,469
and say, the Tanja Millicks is harassing me. For example,

4833
05:10:07,490 --> 05:10:09,629
what happened in a neighboring city with one of their

4834
05:10:09,730 --> 05:10:12,909
county commissioners, I was harassing a restaurant, that restaurant came

4835
05:10:12,949 --> 05:10:16,429
after that city. And it's a very large city in

4836
05:10:16,450 --> 05:10:19,069
South Florida. Okay. And they ended up losing and had

4837
05:10:19,069 --> 05:10:22,881
to pay millions into that restaurant. Okay. I am going

4838
05:10:22,921 --> 05:10:27,717
to move to center that type of conduct. So that

4839
05:10:27,978 --> 05:10:30,517
we cannot go in there and just say, this is

4840
05:10:30,517 --> 05:10:32,277
what we're going to do. And just go the proper

4841
05:10:32,317 --> 05:10:35,077
way of filtering it through the proper departments. I am

4842
05:10:35,117 --> 05:10:41,018
moving to do that tonight. I'll second it. With that,

4843
05:10:41,018 --> 05:10:44,058
any discussion on the censure motion? I just think that

4844
05:10:44,098 --> 05:10:47,658
in general, uh, Central Motion has to specifically mention the

4845
05:10:47,698 --> 05:10:53,298
member that's being censured. Okay. Then to Centrus specifically, a

4846
05:10:53,298 --> 05:10:57,727
councilman quadra Garcia. For that occurred doesn't happen again. Through

4847
05:10:57,727 --> 05:11:02,666
the chair. Councilman Garcia. I appreciate everybody's opinion on this.

4848
05:11:02,666 --> 05:11:06,065
And I'm sorry about your brother. Man, I have my

4849
05:11:06,065 --> 05:11:08,963
whole family's buried there. And to me, it seems like

4850
05:11:09,464 --> 05:11:13,775
it, uh, you're a disgruntled customer. You were, uh, you

4851
05:11:13,815 --> 05:11:15,855
had some issues there, but you did cross the line

4852
05:11:16,036 --> 05:11:20,255
certain things. But I think it's not to the point

4853
05:11:20,356 --> 05:11:24,255
of censure. I think it's to the point of redoing

4854
05:11:24,596 --> 05:11:28,255
some of the, um, ethics training that you have reaching

4855
05:11:28,255 --> 05:11:32,666
out to our attorney. If you're not sure on something,

4856
05:11:33,487 --> 05:11:34,826
you should reach out to the turn. Don't do it

4857
05:11:34,866 --> 05:11:39,126
going forward. But I think century is something that, um,

4858
05:11:40,767 --> 05:11:42,586
is one of the most serious things that this body

4859
05:11:42,626 --> 05:11:44,752
can do. And I'm willing to chalk it up as

4860
05:11:46,293 --> 05:11:49,926
you were emotional. You were not happy with service there

4861
05:11:50,427 --> 05:11:52,646
at that point, which we've all been. I've been at

4862
05:11:52,686 --> 05:11:54,766
restaurants and all in my lakes with my shirt. I

4863
05:11:54,766 --> 05:11:56,646
haven't been happy with service and say, Hey, listen, this

4864
05:11:56,686 --> 05:11:58,886
food is cold. Can you send it back? Does that

4865
05:11:58,886 --> 05:12:02,678
mean that I'm, you know, inspecting their kitchen? No. But

4866
05:12:02,718 --> 05:12:05,318
you need to admit also that maybe, no, maybe you

4867
05:12:05,318 --> 05:12:07,078
took it too far. And then you're going to do

4868
05:12:07,078 --> 05:12:09,798
everything you can as a elected official not to do

4869
05:12:09,798 --> 05:12:13,318
it again. If you give me that, you know, that

4870
05:12:13,358 --> 05:12:16,038
commitment, I'm going to vote no for century because I

4871
05:12:16,038 --> 05:12:20,098
think censure is way too far at this point. Um,

4872
05:12:20,379 --> 05:12:22,758
you continue to do this. And I'll be, I'll be

4873
05:12:22,758 --> 05:12:25,638
the first one to say yes. But I, I, I

4874
05:12:25,678 --> 05:12:27,558
think that two things could be true at the same

4875
05:12:27,558 --> 05:12:32,999
time. You were motion or discontinued customer. You admit you

4876
05:12:32,999 --> 05:12:36,289
took it too far. They're not going to pursue this.

4877
05:12:36,289 --> 05:12:37,709
And you can learn from this and move on. But

4878
05:12:37,990 --> 05:12:43,089
censure to me is saying we have no, um, no

4879
05:12:43,190 --> 05:12:45,969
trust in your abilities to, to, um, to do your

4880
05:12:46,009 --> 05:12:48,449
job. And the only person I think the only people

4881
05:12:48,489 --> 05:12:51,329
that can actually make that decision, I believe is the

4882
05:12:51,430 --> 05:12:53,916
rotors. And they voted for you. And they voted for

4883
05:12:53,956 --> 05:13:00,211
you overwhelmingly. So. Is that what you're. Planning to. Propose.

4884
05:13:02,822 --> 05:13:06,081
He just made the motion for essentially. Yes. So again,

4885
05:13:06,982 --> 05:13:11,201
I just asked my colleagues. If we do everything we

4886
05:13:11,201 --> 05:13:15,201
can for Mr. Gualer Garcia to make sure that this

4887
05:13:15,302 --> 05:13:19,488
doesn't repeat. And we work with him. And I think

4888
05:13:19,829 --> 05:13:21,328
a century is too far right now. And I think

4889
05:13:21,328 --> 05:13:22,928
the residents are the only people I think they can

4890
05:13:22,968 --> 05:13:25,488
really say, Hey, you're not doing your job. And if

4891
05:13:25,488 --> 05:13:27,008
he decides to run in a couple of years and

4892
05:13:27,029 --> 05:13:29,968
he gets voted out, well, the people have spoken. That's

4893
05:13:30,008 --> 05:13:31,568
just my two cents on this. I'll be voting no

4894
05:13:31,608 --> 05:13:34,608
on the center. I respect where you're coming from Councilman.

4895
05:13:34,608 --> 05:13:36,688
But the reason why I seconded it is because last

4896
05:13:36,728 --> 05:13:39,488
year, the manager and I had to deal with your

4897
05:13:39,488 --> 05:13:41,408
neighbor as well. Also complain about the fact that you

4898
05:13:41,589 --> 05:13:44,608
trespassed unto their property to cut at their tree. They

4899
05:13:44,608 --> 05:13:48,028
showed us the photos. And again, just based, like for

4900
05:13:48,028 --> 05:13:50,608
me, this is why I'm agreeing with the censure. Because

4901
05:13:50,608 --> 05:13:53,088
now this is twice now that, you know, like I

4902
05:13:53,088 --> 05:13:54,608
don't know how else to get you to stop and

4903
05:13:54,608 --> 05:13:56,928
really take it seriously to stop going on people's property

4904
05:13:56,949 --> 05:13:59,568
and doing things you shouldn't be doing. And, you know,

4905
05:13:59,568 --> 05:14:01,808
and, you know, again, I know you're looking at me.

4906
05:14:01,808 --> 05:14:05,168
Like if I'm crazy, but, but the pattern here, there

4907
05:14:05,168 --> 05:14:08,208
is a pattern here. And to me, this is the

4908
05:14:08,248 --> 05:14:11,008
step. You will have your transfers phone. But my point

4909
05:14:11,048 --> 05:14:15,008
is that this is a pattern now that is emerging.

4910
05:14:15,008 --> 05:14:17,168
And this is twice now for me. So that's why

4911
05:14:17,269 --> 05:14:19,968
I'm agreeing with the century here because I don't know

4912
05:14:20,008 --> 05:14:21,928
how else to get you to take it seriously. So

4913
05:14:22,869 --> 05:14:25,568
I just wanted to throw in that context for you.

4914
05:14:25,568 --> 05:14:27,408
I understand where you're coming from. But for me, this

4915
05:14:27,448 --> 05:14:29,568
is becoming a problem. We're now again, we're talking about

4916
05:14:29,608 --> 05:14:33,408
people's property rights being infringed and aside from the privacy

4917
05:14:33,509 --> 05:14:36,668
angle that the vice mayor was angling at earlier. And

4918
05:14:36,668 --> 05:14:39,288
before we get to you to respond to us, a

4919
05:14:39,288 --> 05:14:43,808
councilman Herzberg had a comment. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. So

4920
05:14:44,149 --> 05:14:47,248
first, obviously I was disappointed when I saw the letter.

4921
05:14:48,377 --> 05:14:51,476
Um, I believe even he's a council member of his

4922
05:14:51,516 --> 05:14:54,996
own, that attorney in Bay Harbor. I've met him a

4923
05:14:54,996 --> 05:14:58,776
few times. Uh, I believe you know what you did.

4924
05:14:58,776 --> 05:15:01,176
You took it too far. Right. Uh, what I ask

4925
05:15:01,197 --> 05:15:04,936
you to do is remember that how many votes you

4926
05:15:04,936 --> 05:15:09,259
got. Right? You got to every day, no matter, shirt,

4927
05:15:09,259 --> 05:15:14,199
not shirt here in Publix. You're representing those people, all

4928
05:15:14,199 --> 05:15:17,579
people, but especially someone that, that received so many votes

4929
05:15:17,920 --> 05:15:19,819
and got the trust of the voters like that. Right.

4930
05:15:20,800 --> 05:15:24,939
Um, on the century, I mean, I don't know if

4931
05:15:25,120 --> 05:15:29,419
legal exactly what the procedure or the raffica. I'm, I'm

4932
05:15:29,440 --> 05:15:33,979
torn because I do believe the council member realizes he

4933
05:15:33,979 --> 05:15:37,865
took it too far. I understand the mayor and councilman

4934
05:15:37,886 --> 05:15:41,305
sanchez's point. I also, like I've always said, we're very,

4935
05:15:41,305 --> 05:15:43,865
we're different here. We I think we hold ourselves to

4936
05:15:43,905 --> 05:15:47,505
higher standards and most municipalities. Cause let's be honest, a

4937
05:15:47,505 --> 05:15:51,625
lot worse has happened in other visibilities. But this for

4938
05:15:51,625 --> 05:15:55,626
us, we hold ourselves to a different standard. Uh, the

4939
05:15:55,727 --> 05:15:58,266
highest, right? So I really don't know who I am

4940
05:15:58,447 --> 05:16:01,946
on the center. What exactly, I mean, it's just a

4941
05:16:01,967 --> 05:16:06,998
resolution basically. Is that correct? Through the mayor, uh, councilman,

4942
05:16:06,998 --> 05:16:11,878
the act of century is the act of basically, it's

4943
05:16:11,918 --> 05:16:15,058
a, it's a discipline. It's a discipline among yourselves. And

4944
05:16:15,259 --> 05:16:19,158
you're disciplining the person and the action that they took.

4945
05:16:19,158 --> 05:16:23,918
Um, obviously, uh, it's, you've all discussed it. It's a

4946
05:16:23,918 --> 05:16:26,278
policy issue that you have to decide among yourselves because

4947
05:16:26,278 --> 05:16:28,118
you do discipline yourselves and the charter does provide for

4948
05:16:28,158 --> 05:16:32,198
that. You create your own rules. Um, now the action

4949
05:16:32,219 --> 05:16:35,798
itself, uh, it's important. And that's what we have communicated

4950
05:16:36,139 --> 05:16:38,758
to the other, uh, attorney. That is not an action

4951
05:16:38,798 --> 05:16:42,518
that you sanctioned. Yes. It was, it's you're not allowed

4952
05:16:42,859 --> 05:16:46,838
to go on to the cemetery and be taking photographs.

4953
05:16:46,838 --> 05:16:48,838
That is, as the vice mayor said a fourth amendment

4954
05:16:48,878 --> 05:16:52,198
violation. And that's not something I know this council would.

4955
05:16:52,198 --> 05:16:53,718
I would tell you you can't do it. If you'd

4956
05:16:53,718 --> 05:16:55,398
asked me for opinion, then you want to do a

4957
05:16:55,438 --> 05:16:57,518
resolution and go on there and take that kind of

4958
05:16:57,518 --> 05:16:59,918
action. I would tell you, you can't do it. So

4959
05:17:01,019 --> 05:17:06,278
obviously I know again, and I feel for the pain

4960
05:17:06,299 --> 05:17:11,958
that Councilman Garcia Quadra voiced, uh, but I am not

4961
05:17:11,998 --> 05:17:13,798
here really to be emotional. I'm here to be your

4962
05:17:13,838 --> 05:17:17,158
legal counsel. And so the action is pretty much letting

4963
05:17:17,339 --> 05:17:20,518
the other attorney know the other and Vista know that

4964
05:17:20,699 --> 05:17:23,238
the action of this council was not to allow that

4965
05:17:23,499 --> 05:17:26,998
to have happened. Um, and that's basically what you're doing

4966
05:17:26,998 --> 05:17:31,478
today. Okay. So, um, so I'll, I'll be for just

4967
05:17:31,478 --> 05:17:33,718
because I want to be clear of the high standard

4968
05:17:33,819 --> 05:17:37,284
we expect of everybody here. Right. And, and one thing

4969
05:17:37,385 --> 05:17:39,844
I do ask from you and we, we've had this

4970
05:17:39,884 --> 05:17:43,444
discussion before. I, and I'm sure many others are willing

4971
05:17:43,785 --> 05:17:48,644
to schedule sunshine meetings and discuss the things you want

4972
05:17:48,644 --> 05:17:51,844
to discuss before because I understand we're limited here. Right.

4973
05:17:52,105 --> 05:17:54,064
Uh, and I, and I know you have a lot

4974
05:17:54,064 --> 05:17:57,311
of good ideas that you want to get out. Let's,

4975
05:17:57,351 --> 05:18:01,718
let's schedule sunshine meetings. As so the Public can attend

4976
05:18:01,718 --> 05:18:03,238
if we want. So then we can have those free

4977
05:18:03,259 --> 05:18:06,518
flowing discussions. Could be about anything. So that's, that's my

4978
05:18:06,539 --> 05:18:08,918
ask for you is that we do more of those.

4979
05:18:08,918 --> 05:18:10,598
So then we can really get your ideas out there

4980
05:18:10,699 --> 05:18:14,598
and get them voted on, uh, and be more proactive.

4981
05:18:14,598 --> 05:18:16,198
Because I know you have a lot of good ideas.

4982
05:18:16,198 --> 05:18:19,078
I know that you have, you've had the trust of

4983
05:18:19,078 --> 05:18:20,838
the people. So let's get that working. But I will

4984
05:18:20,878 --> 05:18:24,438
vote for just so we're clear of this standard that

4985
05:18:24,779 --> 05:18:27,997
we're expected here. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Please call the

4986
05:18:28,037 --> 05:18:31,757
roll. Oh, my apologies. You're right. I did. I did

4987
05:18:32,018 --> 05:18:35,997
give you an opportunity to respond. Mr. Mayor, I talk

4988
05:18:36,037 --> 05:18:43,837
with clarity and what you have stated of my neighbor.

4989
05:18:43,837 --> 05:18:48,557
I have asked my neighbor kindly if all his debris,

4990
05:18:48,557 --> 05:18:52,117
all of his trees fall over to my side. I

4991
05:18:52,117 --> 05:18:55,197
have the right to take a picture and I was

4992
05:18:55,218 --> 05:18:59,037
told by the town manager, take a picture. And if

4993
05:18:59,037 --> 05:19:00,637
all his stuff is over on the side, you could

4994
05:19:00,677 --> 05:19:03,997
trim it. So I can't, you know, if you go

4995
05:19:04,037 --> 05:19:09,437
over to his backyard, it looks like a zoo. Okay.

4996
05:19:09,437 --> 05:19:12,317
You could keep your zoom. However, he's got possums in

4997
05:19:12,317 --> 05:19:16,077
there and everything. But he can't be having all his

4998
05:19:16,077 --> 05:19:19,437
trees hanging over to my side. So I have the

4999
05:19:19,458 --> 05:19:22,797
right and I incorrect me, Mr. Manager, if I spoke

5000
05:19:22,837 --> 05:19:25,997
to you about that, you told me, take a picture.

5001
05:19:25,997 --> 05:19:29,117
If those trees are leaning towards your side, you have

5002
05:19:29,117 --> 05:19:32,557
the right to clear them because they're in your side.

5003
05:19:32,557 --> 05:19:36,717
So how can I do, you know, damn, if I

5004
05:19:36,717 --> 05:19:40,317
don't and damn if I do. So I'm actually trimming

5005
05:19:40,338 --> 05:19:43,770
the trees that are on my side. So I don't

5006
05:19:43,951 --> 05:19:47,130
understand how you take side on my neighbor when I've

5007
05:19:47,170 --> 05:19:50,650
talked to my neighbor. I've even said, let me cut

5008
05:19:50,671 --> 05:19:53,130
all the way to the actual tree. No, sir. It

5009
05:19:53,130 --> 05:19:55,610
wasn't just a part that was going over. Mr. Mayor,

5010
05:19:55,650 --> 05:19:58,090
do you let me make sure that I clear this

5011
05:19:58,130 --> 05:20:01,610
with you? Do you have evidence that I did that.

5012
05:20:03,418 --> 05:20:06,117
Do you have the proof that I just admitted that

5013
05:20:06,298 --> 05:20:10,277
that was bothering you. You repeatedly. Mr. Mayor, I'm in

5014
05:20:10,277 --> 05:20:13,157
my property. I'm in my property and it comes over

5015
05:20:13,197 --> 05:20:15,477
to my side. I have to write to trim it.

5016
05:20:15,477 --> 05:20:17,637
Do I have the right to treatment or not? It's

5017
05:20:17,658 --> 05:20:22,521
in my side, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Manager. If the tree

5018
05:20:22,561 --> 05:20:27,018
goes into my yard, can I trim it. And that's

5019
05:20:27,018 --> 05:20:29,978
what I did. That's not what was shown to us.

5020
05:20:29,978 --> 05:20:32,858
And, you know, again, the pattern here. Can we clarify

5021
05:20:32,879 --> 05:20:37,498
that? Can we clarify that? Look, the reason why I

5022
05:20:37,599 --> 05:20:40,218
hadn't brought it up earlier before, right? But I need

5023
05:20:40,258 --> 05:20:41,978
you to know that this is not going to happen

5024
05:20:42,018 --> 05:20:44,538
again, right? So with that, I'm going to go to

5025
05:20:44,559 --> 05:20:46,678
the vice mayor because we got to move on. You

5026
05:20:46,678 --> 05:20:50,858
know, we have the council member Hersberg's report. So we

5027
05:20:50,879 --> 05:20:53,098
have to move on. You're not going to embarrass me,

5028
05:20:53,098 --> 05:20:55,418
Mr. Mayor. I'm not. You're not. But it's called about

5029
05:20:55,418 --> 05:20:57,658
telling the truth. Okay. Okay. You're not going to embarrass

5030
05:20:57,658 --> 05:21:00,618
me. I'm telling you that right now, nobody here on

5031
05:21:00,618 --> 05:21:03,738
this council's respectfully nobody's trying to embarrass you, but you

5032
05:21:03,738 --> 05:21:06,858
are embarrassing yourself. No, I'm so, sir. Okay. Through the

5033
05:21:06,858 --> 05:21:10,458
chair, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Mr. Viceman. So let me,

5034
05:21:10,458 --> 05:21:11,978
let me see if I can put a pin on

5035
05:21:11,978 --> 05:21:15,978
this. Um, first and foremost, ascensure is a slap on

5036
05:21:15,978 --> 05:21:18,618
the wrist. It is, Hey, we don't like what you

5037
05:21:18,618 --> 05:21:21,938
did. It is not a removal from office. Cause I

5038
05:21:21,938 --> 05:21:23,658
think earlier it was kind of meant to seem that

5039
05:21:23,658 --> 05:21:26,538
way. We don't have that power, nor are we trying

5040
05:21:26,538 --> 05:21:29,578
to do that. Uh, nor is there like a three

5041
05:21:29,618 --> 05:21:32,754
century rule and you're out. Like that doesn't exist. This

5042
05:21:33,095 --> 05:21:36,994
is simply just our formal way, our formal mechanisms of

5043
05:21:37,034 --> 05:21:39,634
saying, we don't like what you did. It doesn't go

5044
05:21:39,674 --> 05:21:42,434
with the standards of this body. Please don't do it

5045
05:21:42,434 --> 05:21:44,714
again. That's all it is. So I just want to

5046
05:21:44,714 --> 05:21:47,954
kind of put that out there. Uh, number. I'm still

5047
05:21:47,954 --> 05:21:50,674
speaking. I still have the floor. At this point, I

5048
05:21:50,775 --> 05:21:55,154
also wanted to point out that as far as this

5049
05:21:55,154 --> 05:21:58,994
discussion about the tree, I haven't heard anything that suggests

5050
05:21:59,034 --> 05:22:02,434
that you used your position on the council as it

5051
05:22:02,434 --> 05:22:04,994
relates to that. That kind of seems as though it

5052
05:22:04,994 --> 05:22:07,554
was a neighbor to neighbor dispute just like there are

5053
05:22:07,575 --> 05:22:10,034
thousands throughout the town. So I'm just saying like that

5054
05:22:10,074 --> 05:22:12,274
one's just not convincing to me. There have been others

5055
05:22:12,295 --> 05:22:16,674
that have been other circumstances relating to cause in quadra

5056
05:22:16,674 --> 05:22:18,514
Garcia that are more concerning. I won't bring those up

5057
05:22:18,554 --> 05:22:20,574
because that's not what we're trying to do here. Um,

5058
05:22:20,695 --> 05:22:22,914
but I do just want to ask one thing of

5059
05:22:23,015 --> 05:22:28,568
councilman Guadalajara Garcia. Councilman Garcia said that he won't support

5060
05:22:29,149 --> 05:22:32,658
the censure. If you do X, Y, and Z. Can

5061
05:22:32,658 --> 05:22:41,447
you please repeat the conditions that he said. Counciling Garcia

5062
05:22:41,868 --> 05:22:45,667
said, I don't want you to do X, Y, and

5063
05:22:45,667 --> 05:22:48,487
Z in the future. Uh, or sorry, I would like

5064
05:22:48,527 --> 05:22:50,967
you to do X, Y, and Z as a condition

5065
05:22:51,148 --> 05:22:55,207
of his not supporting the censure. I would like you

5066
05:22:55,308 --> 05:23:00,181
to repeat what those conditions were. Because the reality is

5067
05:23:00,602 --> 05:23:04,581
I heard how quickly you said, sure thing. And I

5068
05:23:04,581 --> 05:23:06,661
don't think you were actually listening, which is something that

5069
05:23:06,762 --> 05:23:09,861
happens a lot, uh, with you on this dais.

5070
05:23:16,504 --> 05:23:20,563
Nobody here is going to embarrass me because I'm an

5071
05:23:20,603 --> 05:23:23,523
adult and I'm here to, but I will tell you

5072
05:23:24,184 --> 05:23:27,923
if next week, somebody decides to state something else about

5073
05:23:27,944 --> 05:23:32,643
me like the tree. Then now there's something else. We

5074
05:23:32,683 --> 05:23:37,537
have to take case by case. And I think that

5075
05:23:37,558 --> 05:23:42,148
it was not fair. What. My colleague, the mayor just

5076
05:23:42,188 --> 05:23:45,908
stated that I went into the gentleman's property. That is,

5077
05:23:45,948 --> 05:23:49,441
that is not fair to say that Mr. Mayor. I

5078
05:23:49,441 --> 05:23:52,321
mean, are you tired of tarnish my name? I've had

5079
05:23:52,321 --> 05:23:54,801
enough of this. Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Through

5080
05:23:54,801 --> 05:23:56,621
the chair, I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. Can I ask? Can

5081
05:23:56,621 --> 05:24:00,401
I please ask for your understanding? I understand. Just say,

5082
05:24:00,401 --> 05:24:03,121
okay. Then I want this to wrap up. It will.

5083
05:24:03,121 --> 05:24:05,121
But, you know, we got to move on. No, understood

5084
05:24:05,161 --> 05:24:07,201
we have to move on. However, this is one of

5085
05:24:07,201 --> 05:24:10,321
the most serious votes we're ever going to take, right?

5086
05:24:10,502 --> 05:24:13,467
Centering a colleague. No, no, I know. You think it's

5087
05:24:13,467 --> 05:24:15,787
clear. I just want to make sure that he as

5088
05:24:15,888 --> 05:24:19,147
a, not only someone who he says an adult, someone

5089
05:24:19,147 --> 05:24:22,347
who's voted in, a member of this body gets every

5090
05:24:22,387 --> 05:24:25,467
opportunity to defend themselves, even to the last second, right?

5091
05:24:25,467 --> 05:24:27,787
So I know you, you might not agree with what

5092
05:24:27,787 --> 05:24:30,222
he says, but I think we all deserve that. The

5093
05:24:30,243 --> 05:24:33,486
question from the Vice Mayor. What I asked you to

5094
05:24:33,486 --> 05:24:38,417
do so this won't happen again. Are three things or

5095
05:24:38,417 --> 05:24:40,797
a couple of things. Is there a common sense things

5096
05:24:40,818 --> 05:24:42,557
that ask you to do? And what's the first thing

5097
05:24:42,658 --> 05:24:46,168
I ask you to do. In regards to what you

5098
05:24:46,168 --> 05:24:49,268
did. Would be what. Now to do it again. Not

5099
05:24:49,308 --> 05:24:53,348
to do it again. Okay. Now, committed to the state.

5100
05:24:53,388 --> 05:24:57,508
Okay. Another thing is, if you have a question about

5101
05:24:57,609 --> 05:24:59,108
something that you're not sure of, what are you going

5102
05:24:59,108 --> 05:25:04,039
to do? You're going to ask. And if you're not

5103
05:25:04,079 --> 05:25:06,415
sure about how the procedures are. Going to ask, you're

5104
05:25:06,415 --> 05:25:08,975
going to ask. Okay. I mean, to me, that's enough

5105
05:25:09,076 --> 05:25:11,455
to say, Hey, he understands he's an adult. He understands

5106
05:25:11,495 --> 05:25:13,735
that. No. That's great. But I just also want to

5107
05:25:13,735 --> 05:25:16,255
remind everyone, right, that the mayor is the one that

5108
05:25:16,295 --> 05:25:18,095
percents with the meetings. If you want to appeal the

5109
05:25:18,095 --> 05:25:19,855
ruling of the chair, you're welcome to. But when I

5110
05:25:19,895 --> 05:25:21,695
say I'm calling the vote, the vote is going to

5111
05:25:21,735 --> 05:25:24,215
move unless you appeal the ruling of the chair. I

5112
05:25:24,215 --> 05:25:26,575
appreciate where your heart is coming from, but we're moving

5113
05:25:26,615 --> 05:25:31,600
on. Madam Clerk, please call the rule. Council member Sanchez.

5114
05:25:31,600 --> 05:25:40,813
Yes. Council Member Herrsberg. Yes. Councilmember Garcia. No. Councilmember

5115
05:25:40,914 --> 05:25:48,923
Fernandez. Yes. Councilmember Guada Garcia. No. Vice Mayor morera. Yes.

5116
05:25:49,264 --> 05:25:53,403
Mayor Diegas. Yes. The motion to censure passes. Thank you.

5117
05:25:53,664 --> 05:25:56,763
With that, Mr. Hersberg, Councilman Herzberg with four minutes to

5118
05:25:56,803 --> 05:25:59,723
go. Yeah. This will be quick. Uh, I've had discussions

5119
05:26:00,144 --> 05:26:03,643
with town manager. We've shared some contracts back and forth.

5120
05:26:03,643 --> 05:26:05,403
The next step, I do want to have a contract

5121
05:26:05,443 --> 05:26:08,763
presented for everybody for approval in September. Uh, I might

5122
05:26:08,763 --> 05:26:11,003
have a few MBIs tied to that contract as well.

5123
05:26:11,003 --> 05:26:13,483
So we're all on the same page moving forward. I

5124
05:26:13,483 --> 05:26:16,443
do want to set a sunshine meeting. So we can,

5125
05:26:16,443 --> 05:26:18,603
uh, and I've asked the town manager not to attend

5126
05:26:18,643 --> 05:26:20,763
so we can have a very good and fluid discussion.

5127
05:26:20,763 --> 05:26:23,083
And he's okay with that. He's actually asked me what

5128
05:26:23,104 --> 05:26:27,723
my preference is. So I appreciate that. Um, about a

5129
05:26:27,723 --> 05:26:29,403
few of the Remaining items. I really do think we're

5130
05:26:29,424 --> 05:26:33,483
close to a final contract. I guess it would make

5131
05:26:33,523 --> 05:26:35,563
sense to provide you that contract once we go through

5132
05:26:35,664 --> 05:26:38,583
one more draft before that meeting so you guys can

5133
05:26:38,583 --> 05:26:42,203
take a look at it. Uh, the Reamey items term,

5134
05:26:42,203 --> 05:26:44,723
um, not salary. There's some benefit issues we want to

5135
05:26:44,723 --> 05:26:49,003
discuss. Uh, I will say the KPI, I've reviewed over

5136
05:26:49,104 --> 05:26:52,843
15 to 20 town manager contracts and date and broward.

5137
05:26:52,843 --> 05:26:56,603
The KPI issue is non - existent in anybody's contracts.

5138
05:26:56,603 --> 05:26:58,603
I did do my best to try to tie the

5139
05:26:58,643 --> 05:27:00,843
contract to some of the grievances that I believe we

5140
05:27:00,843 --> 05:27:03,403
have to make sure that we're on the same page.

5141
05:27:03,403 --> 05:27:05,803
So I'm, I'm excited to share it to you. There's

5142
05:27:05,803 --> 05:27:08,443
a few big two or three big items. We need

5143
05:27:08,443 --> 05:27:11,323
to agree on and then provide it to, uh, to

5144
05:27:11,363 --> 05:27:13,963
vote in September. So I'll ask the town clerk to

5145
05:27:13,963 --> 05:27:15,803
make sure to get you guys sunshine meetings that we

5146
05:27:15,803 --> 05:27:18,583
can all make. So then we can get those, um,

5147
05:27:19,504 --> 05:27:22,123
so I can understand where you're at to complete the

5148
05:27:22,123 --> 05:27:25,649
negotiations. Perfect. Thank you very much for that report with

5149
05:27:25,649 --> 05:27:28,049
that. There've been no further business. This council is a

5150
05:27:28,049 --> 05:27:34,138
journey that 1127 PM. Mayor, I know the meeting is

5151
05:27:34,138 --> 05:27:36,538
over. I just want to. Oh, yes, my apologies. Go

5152
05:27:36,538 --> 05:27:38,778
ahead. I just want to say for the record that

5153
05:27:38,959 --> 05:27:42,778
in the last month, we've had three elected officials with

5154
05:27:43,039 --> 05:27:47,738
birthday starting by council member, Hey Garcia, followed by council

5155
05:27:47,778 --> 05:27:51,898
member Fernandez. And today is a birthday of council member

5156
05:27:51,999 --> 05:27:54,778
Hirschberg. We bought a cake for the three of you.

5157
05:27:54,778 --> 05:28:00,900
So let's sing happy birthday. Ah, baby. Now. I can't

5158
05:28:01,001 --> 05:28:10,511
hear you birthday to you. Happy birthday. Dear Mr. Hirtberg.

5159
05:28:12,355 --> 05:28:17,268
Happy birthday to you. All right. Now, now we're adjourned.