[0:15] Good evening everyone.
[0:17] Welcome to
[0:18] Michigan City
[0:19] councils on issues
[0:20] zoning and
[0:20] appeals. Date: 11
[0:22] September 2018. Time:
[0:25] 18:10. And, Mr. New York,
[0:27] please start with
[0:29] personal
[0:29] voting.
[0:33] Mr. Hook
[0:34] present.
[0:38] Mr. Jackson
[0:40] present. Miss Janice
[0:42] present.
[0:43] Mr. Noel
[0:44] present.
[0:46] Mr. Zimmer is absent.
[0:48] Oops. And Mr. Gill
[0:54] missing. We have
[0:58] quorum.
[0:59] Thank you. Thank you
[1:01] to the members of the council. If, uh,
[1:03] no one denies,
[1:04] we will do without
[1:05] reading the rules and
[1:07] meeting procedures and
[1:08] let's go straight to
[1:09] meeting. And if everyone
[1:14] the council members had
[1:15] possibility
[1:16] to get acquainted with
[1:17] protocol
[1:17] last meeting
[1:19] from August 14, I would
[1:20] considered the proposal
[1:21] .
[1:22] So, a suggestion.
[1:23] Second. I have
[1:24] proposal from Mr.
[1:25] Norbella, second from
[1:27] Mr. Hook.
[1:32] Yes.
[1:33] Mr. Jackson,
[1:34] Yes.
[1:35] Miss Janice,
[1:36] Yes.
[1:38] Mr. Mo,
[1:39] Yes.
[1:40] The proposal was approved.
[1:43] Mr. York, if we have
[1:44] there is nothing more,
[1:46] let's go right away
[1:46] let's move on to ours
[1:48] petitions. Our first
[1:53] petition–B-106-18. Bradley
[1:58] Adamsky, lawyer
[1:59] owners
[2:00] Larry's real estate and
[2:01] Joyce Dalton, begging
[2:02] about deviation from
[2:04] building standards,
[2:05] to allow
[2:06] use
[2:06] vacant lot on the East
[2:08] -Barker Avenue,
[2:09] located in
[2:09] residential area, for
[2:11] off-street
[2:11] parking. It
[2:13] continues with
[2:14] August. Good morning
[2:19] p.m. Please,
[2:20] provide your name and
[2:20] address for records. AND
[2:22] Good evening. Me
[2:23] My name is Brad Adamski. I
[2:25] lawyer at the company
[2:26] Drayton Bishi Sugo and Elliot, 820
[2:28] Jefferson Avenue, Leaport, Indiana.
[2:32] And can you
[2:32] tell us about
[2:33] your petition, please
[2:34] affection?
[2:34] Of course. Good morning
[2:36] evening, members
[2:36] rule. Again
[2:37] thank you for your
[2:38] patience for this
[2:39] petitions. We were here.
[2:40] last month and
[2:41] continuing today
[2:42] with the understanding that
[2:43] we are going
[2:44] to meet with
[2:44] city ​​representatives
[2:45] and try
[2:46] to get along with everyone,
[2:47] which I believe we have.
[2:48] Um, this is a two-parter.
[2:50] petition that we
[2:51] actually please
[2:52] to turn into
[2:53] one-part petition
[2:54] . Um, we have two.
[2:56] vacant lots on
[2:57] Barker Avenue. The first of
[2:58] them belongs to me
[3:00] to Larry's clients and
[3:01] Joyce Stalton, who
[3:02] present here in the hall,
[3:04] and the second one, which is
[3:04] the following petition,
[3:06] owned by Sweetwater Indiana LLC
[3:07] , owned by Zak
[3:08] Rinsky also
[3:09] present here. Um, we
[3:11] Please advise.
[3:12] deviation from
[3:13] rules of use,
[3:14] to allow
[3:15] use these
[3:16] two areas as
[3:17] off-street parking
[3:18] in a residential area.
[3:19] First we also
[3:20] submitted a request for
[3:21] deviation from
[3:22] development standards,
[3:23] so that we can
[3:23] use
[3:24] macadam
[3:25] instead of asphalt.
[3:26] Working with the city, we believe that
[3:28] developed a project,
[3:29] which can
[3:29] to meet the city's
[3:30] standards and be
[3:31] approved by the city. It
[3:32] there will be asphalt. So,
[3:34] actually, because we
[3:34] here tonight
[3:35] , discussing the idea
[3:36] cooperation with the city,
[3:37] we withdraw
[3:38] petition regarding
[3:38] deviation from
[3:39] development standards
[3:40] and we just want
[3:41] to advance from
[3:41] deviation from
[3:42] rules of use.
[3:43] So, you are going
[3:44] to make changes to your
[3:45] petitions in the hall to
[3:46] include it in
[3:47] budget.
[3:47] Yes. So, unlike
[3:52] from the petition regarding
[3:53] changes in use
[3:54] and variations and changes
[3:55] development standards,
[3:56] at the moment we just want
[3:58] to advance from
[3:59] petition for change
[4:00] using. Goal
[4:09] parking-
[4:10] serve
[4:14] renovated pub
[4:15] Barker, who is located
[4:17] across the road on
[4:18] Barker Avenue.
[4:20] Because Barker-
[4:20] avenue–narrow street,
[4:22] since the repair
[4:23] restaurant-bar
[4:24] there were problems with
[4:25] parking, and traffic
[4:26] transport
[4:30] improved or started
[4:31] accrue. It
[4:32] led to
[4:33] potential problems
[4:34] security not only because
[4:35] traffic, but also
[4:36] through fire engines,
[4:37] moving upwards and
[4:38] down the road. Ago
[4:39] we are trying
[4:40] reduce this flow,
[4:41] creating
[4:42] off-street parking
[4:43] . I have photos,
[4:44] which I can
[4:45] to present to the council.
[4:46] They are taken from the web
[4:47] the district website, on which
[4:48] these two are shown
[4:49] empty areas in
[4:50] different times, starting
[4:51] since 2008. On each of
[4:52] these photos you will see cars,
[4:54] parked on
[4:55] herbal
[4:55] directly on the platforms
[4:56] now. And this is what
[4:57] is happening. And we don't
[4:58] we can, that is, as long as it
[4:59] works now, it's not
[5:00] may continue.
[5:01] Hmm, obviously these
[5:02] Lawns are not for this.
[5:03] were appointed. They kill the grass. They
[5:05] compact the soil. It
[5:07] not ideal for
[5:08] parking outside
[5:08] street. So we have
[5:10] a plan that I believe
[5:11] was distributed
[5:12] among the council. If not,
[5:13] then I have other ones of his
[5:15] copies. And we have Ryan.
[5:17] Laughlin of Hass and Associates,
[5:18] who developed this
[5:19] plan, if the council has one
[5:20] some specific ones
[5:22] question about what
[5:23] we want to make with
[5:24] improved parking
[5:26] . So, first of all, with the permission of the council, I will give away these photos.
[5:32] here.
[5:46] Well, Larry and Joyce
[5:47] complained, but they
[5:48] did not complain.
[5:51] Oh, okay. Now Larry
[6:01] and Joyce is here,
[6:02] about three rows
[6:03] behind, but one of
[6:04] their concerns
[6:05] is that
[6:06] they own
[6:07] business at
[6:08] 602 East Barker Avenue.
[6:10] Um, and you'll see on
[6:11] photographs,
[6:12] it is obvious that part
[6:13] parking spaces
[6:14] was there for them
[6:15] business, but with
[6:16] improved
[6:17] asphalted
[6:18] parking is also
[6:19] will help their
[6:20] business. So, for the sake of
[6:30] the public, which
[6:32] is present here, and, in
[6:33] the first time I used to
[6:34] asked whether
[6:35] most of these people
[6:36] support the later
[6:37] petition, and all of them
[6:38] raised their hands, I'm fighting
[6:40] institution.
[6:43] I've been to such places before.
[6:44] large halls, but
[6:45] absolutely...Yes. But,
[6:48] Um, I know what's here.
[6:49] people who supported
[6:51] your petition. Simply
[6:53] tell us orally,
[6:54] what should they expect or
[6:56] What do you expect?
[6:58] so that we can, um,
[6:59] and I keep everyone in
[7:00] course.
[7:01] And I don't know, me too
[7:02] shared with some
[7:03] neighbors who are here
[7:04] present, drawing,
[7:05] which you have before
[7:06] yourself.
[7:07] Um, but mostly,
[7:08] what we want
[7:09] to do, this
[7:11] to pave, I think two are empty.
[7:15] plots on this
[7:16] stage. There will be a new one
[7:17] a curb that will come out on
[7:19] Barker Avenue. Um, this is
[7:21] at the request of the city.
[7:24] There will be a fence there, which
[7:26] will pass along,
[7:27] hmm, Dalton's sides,
[7:28] then along
[7:29] alley, and then
[7:30] down along the other
[7:31] side of the plot. So
[7:33] the plot actually
[7:35] will be fenced.
[7:36] One of the concerns
[7:37] some neighbors
[7:38] last time it was that people either through
[7:40] too intense
[7:41] traffic movement. Now
[7:42] the only way there is
[7:43] across the alley, and this one
[7:44] the lane is not
[7:45] intended for
[7:45] this type of movement.
[7:46] In addition, people
[7:47] parked behind
[7:48] houses, walked around
[7:49] their yards,
[7:50] cut through the parking lot.
[7:51] This will soften
[7:52] situation. One more thing
[7:53] the concern is
[7:54] in that although these
[7:55] plots
[7:55] were used
[7:56] for parking
[7:57] for many
[7:58] years, their number
[7:59] was not like that. So, with
[8:00] so many
[8:01] cars, land
[8:02] compacted, and now
[8:04] there are problems with the drain
[8:05] and water. And even
[8:06] recently, of course,
[8:07] due to heavy rains on
[8:08] weekend, arose
[8:09] significant problems with
[8:11] water on some
[8:11] areas. The idea of ​​this
[8:13] improved zone
[8:14] provides in each
[8:15] corner of greenery
[8:16] plantations that
[8:17] will be used
[8:18] for the drain, but also
[8:19] necessary
[8:20] to meet the city's
[8:21] building standards
[8:22] plots. It is obvious that
[8:24] Skyler's department
[8:25] will conduct an inspection,
[8:26] to make sure of
[8:27] proper planning
[8:28] , proper drainage.
[8:29] So, I hope this
[8:30] will ease the problem,
[8:32] which we just saw
[8:33] on weekends. And I think
[8:36] , considering that
[8:37] current project, there
[8:39] will be added in total 21
[8:40] parking space.
[8:42] So this is, you know, on the 21st
[8:43] vehicle
[8:44] less parking
[8:46] along Barker Avenue
[8:47] and loads the street
[8:48] or parked in front of
[8:50] houses in
[8:50] residential area. Or
[8:56] Is there anything else, sir? Besides
[8:58] opportunities
[8:58] to answer any
[8:59] what objections and more
[9:00] to remind you once,
[9:01] that we have an engineer here
[9:02] , in case you have
[9:03] advice will arise
[9:04] specific questions
[9:05] regarding the project.
[9:06] Mr. York, can you have something to add from
[9:07] about this, because I know you have been working.
[9:09] side by side with this.
[9:10] Yes, we are working on it.
[9:11] this has been going on for some time. Ahem
[9:12] , it seems that this is already
[9:13] third or fourth,
[9:14] maybe the fifth
[9:15] the picture that we
[9:16] saw. Hmm, so, hmm,
[9:17] we went from two
[9:19] curb cuts to
[9:20] one that, in my opinion, good. Um, I think that some of
[9:25] main concerns
[9:26] that I heard, for example,
[9:27] talking to
[9:28] some monsters,
[9:29] who visited me,
[9:30] um, literally
[9:31] came to my house
[9:32] office, were connected
[9:33] with people who
[9:33] passed by, and
[9:34] they were very
[9:35] concerned about children on
[9:36] alley. Um, so
[9:37] At first we thought,
[9:38] what makes sense to remove
[9:39] things from this alley
[9:41] , but looking back when we
[9:42] went there,
[9:43] saw this
[9:44] alley, visited
[9:45] neighbors and talked
[9:46] with them when they
[9:47] came in, I think that
[9:48] much smarter
[9:49] just block
[9:50] its. Do not allow
[9:51] access. Um, and
[9:52] potentially if people
[9:53] will know that more
[9:54] can't go there
[9:55] pass, they do not
[9:56] will park at
[9:57] streets and not
[9:57] will walk through the yards
[9:58] people. I think that
[9:59] they probably
[10:00] will walk on the sidewalk. We make them go
[10:02] the sidewalk, in fact,
[10:04] where they should be. Hmm, that slice
[10:08] the curb that you see. So, essentially,
[10:11] What will happen is this,
[10:12] that since this
[10:13] double parking, we
[10:15] merged two into one,
[10:16] and we will place it
[10:17] about 7.5
[10:18] meters behind, so that
[10:20] to prohibit
[10:20] parking, to
[10:21] the inspection triangle was
[10:23] protected. So
[10:25] practically before this
[10:26] You don't have parking.
[10:28] there will be room for
[10:28] parking. This will be
[10:31] a clear overview of this
[10:32] parking. So people don't
[10:34] will run out under
[10:35] machinery. Now the cars
[10:37] parked along
[10:38] her. If they
[10:41] parked here,
[10:42] they go between
[10:43] machines that
[10:43] actually there is more dangerous
[10:45] situation, because, hmm
[10:47] , people don't travel much
[10:48] quickly, but with
[10:49] at a decent speed
[10:50] , and it's quite cramped there.
[10:52] So you don't see them,
[10:54] until they are gone
[10:55] will leave. So, I think,
[10:57] this will solve a lot
[10:58] problems. And, as I already
[10:59] said, we discussed
[11:01] several projects,
[11:02] drawings, sketches
[11:03] etc. So, from the point of
[11:06] in terms of planning, we
[11:07] relatively satisfied
[11:09] hereby. Hmm, I think that's it.
[11:11] will reduce congestion and
[11:12] some problems with
[11:13] parking. And I think that, um, we have
[11:17] there are still some
[11:18] opportunities for
[11:19] green areas and,
[11:20] you know, aesthetic
[11:21] things. But to me
[11:23] I like the fence.
[11:25] and the buffer between
[11:25] houses and protection,
[11:27] which she offers
[11:28] to these people. Lanterns in
[11:29] their front
[11:30] window, lights in
[11:32] window, etc. By the way
[11:33] about lighting, um, or
[11:35] there will be lights on this
[11:36] parking lot?
[11:39] I don't think there is now.
[11:40] some design, and I don't
[11:41] I think there are some
[11:42] fires, but apparently
[11:43] it will be
[11:44] designed by
[11:45] standards.
[11:45] We are engaged in
[11:46] lighting. Um, we,
[11:48] probably we will,
[11:49] because it is residential
[11:50] area. I mean,
[11:51] that I don't want this
[11:53] it was like that, I don't want to disturb the neighbors
[11:55] here. So, it probably has
[11:57] to be somewhat weak
[11:58] lighting. Um, that is,
[11:59] there are standards that
[12:00] set out in our
[12:01] zoning code
[12:02] , for example, what is this
[12:03] foot candelabra,
[12:04] lumens, etc. Um, and
[12:05] the height of these elements
[12:06] and their shielding,
[12:07] so that they were
[12:08] shielded so as not to
[12:09] overflow. Hmm, we have
[12:11] These standards already exist.
[12:13] I think there is
[12:14] balance between security,
[12:15] obviously parking lots
[12:16] and so that it doesn't
[12:17] to insult the neighbors
[12:18] houses.
[12:18] Absolutely.
[12:19] Very good.
[12:22] Board members, there are more
[12:24] any questions?
[12:26] Question? Thank you, sir.
[12:30] Friends, on this day
[12:31] the moment we are going
[12:32] open this for
[12:33] public
[12:33] discussion.
[12:34] Public
[12:35] discussion of this
[12:36] petitions. Is there anyone
[12:37] who wants to come forward
[12:38] and express publicly
[12:39] discussion?
[12:41] Come to
[12:42] microphone.
[12:50] I need yours.
[12:51] name and address for
[12:52] recording, please.
[12:53] Good. I'm Matthew Payne. I live at Beld-
[12:56] Street, 607. It's right behind
[12:58] the area where it stands
[12:59] my house. I saw
[13:00] a copy of this, and I think
[13:01] that's pretty good
[13:02] picture. It seems that
[13:03] It will be beautiful there. Now
[13:05] me the most
[13:06] worries about entering and leaving
[13:07] my driveway
[13:08] . My lane is
[13:09] shared lane with
[13:10] neighbors or shared
[13:11] driveway from
[13:12] neighbors, and she is like that
[13:13] cramped. Therefore, when
[13:14] I am leaving in the back.
[13:15] I sometimes
[13:16] I'm stopping by.
[13:17] area approximately
[13:18] per foot, maybe two, and
[13:19] Yes. So, you are not
[13:20] Do you want to crash into
[13:21] fence.
[13:22] Good.
[13:23] Yes. Where there is a fence,
[13:24] he will be right on
[13:25] alley. It seems...So,
[13:26] hmm, I'm worried about that
[13:27] I will have to go in reverse
[13:29] or it will be difficult for me
[13:30] to enter and leave,
[13:31] or, you know, my garage
[13:32] is directly
[13:33] there, in the alley.
[13:34] Someone is coming in, they
[13:35] will not be able to enter and
[13:35] to go out, crash into
[13:36] my car, maybe
[13:37] bump into someone
[13:38] another.
[13:38] So, you don't necessarily
[13:39] against that
[13:40] offered
[13:40] tonight,
[13:41] if we can
[13:42] do it where you are
[13:43] You can come by.
[13:43] Looks like
[13:44] good. Looks better
[13:45] than now, because you know what a flood is,
[13:48] and I think it will be
[13:48] a big improvement,
[13:49] if drainage
[13:50] will work properly
[13:51] in a way.
[13:51] Good. And, uh, a fence
[13:52] will work. I have on
[13:54] mind you, I want
[13:54] put a fence there.
[13:55] To protect yourself,
[13:56] you know, so
[13:56] to provide for oneself
[13:57] some protection. But
[13:58] if we can, I
[13:59] sure that
[14:00] engineer...I
[14:00] I hope he/she
[14:02] is right in doing
[14:03] some notes. Um,
[14:05] I guarantee you that
[14:07] now we probably
[14:08] can we move this
[14:09] fence back to
[14:10] what you need
[14:11] radius. To us
[14:12] will have to do this
[14:12] to consider, but if
[14:13] you don't mind
[14:13] using...
[14:14] guess if you
[14:15] not against
[14:15] use...in
[14:16] basically what to do,
[14:17] if you install it
[14:18] the way it is. I am not
[14:19] against use.
[14:20] It looks like it will be good.
[14:22] You will know what I am for.
[14:23] ...I'm all for business and that's it
[14:24] like this. But as
[14:25] only, you know,
[14:26] drainage and all that
[14:27] it will be fine, and we don't have
[14:29] there will be floods, everything
[14:30] It will be fine.
[14:31] Um, maybe Ryan could
[14:32] I would like to tell you a little bit.
[14:34] about drainage, plan
[14:35] drainage. I don't know.
[14:37] Just give it to us
[14:38] approximately how
[14:39] usually works
[14:39] drainage in parking lots
[14:41] for these people. That
[14:43] they had a certain
[14:44] confidence. I am not
[14:45] I don't know if this is normal.
[14:46] Give us a minute,
[14:48] and we'll see if
[14:49] there will be more people.
[14:50] Thus, you do not
[14:50] will have to do
[14:51] two or three trips.
[14:52] What is your address? 67.
[14:56] And we will check it out.
[14:57] for the radius
[14:58] turning.
[14:59] Make sure that the
[14:59] you have enough space,
[15:00] to get out of there
[15:01] in reverse.
[15:01] Fortunately, I am in control.
[15:02] a large truck.
[15:03] I don't drive a little.
[15:03] tiny.
[15:04] This is normal. All
[15:05] OK. Good.
[15:06] Thank you, Mr. Pei.
[15:08] Thank you.
[15:08] Public discussion
[15:10] . Does anyone else want
[15:11] make public
[15:12] discussion of this
[15:13] petitions? Public
[15:14] discussion.
[15:16] Last call for
[15:17] public
[15:18] discussion.
[15:20] is now closed. Your
[15:23] name and address for
[15:25] records, please. THERE ARE
[15:27] -uh, Ryan Laughlin, uh,
[15:28] 622 Franklin Street.
[15:29] Um, although this
[15:30] preliminary plan, we
[15:32] didn't spend, we didn't
[15:33] investigated and not
[15:34] made a detailed, uh,
[15:36] evaluations or
[15:36] designing or
[15:38] something for drainage.
[15:39] But I can say that
[15:40] , uh, at least
[15:41] it seems preliminary,
[15:43] that this territory
[15:44] mostly sandy, and
[15:45] should be relatively
[15:46] easy to soak
[15:47] part of this runoff,
[15:49] uh, from the parking lot,
[15:50] you know, new
[15:50] impenetrable zone, in
[15:52] part of this soil.
[15:54] Uh, but without
[15:54] additional
[15:55] I couldn't find the information.
[15:56] would say this
[15:57] definitely. Hmm, but
[15:59] you know, usually with
[16:00] such an area of ​​water
[16:01] merges, um, into
[16:02] some local
[16:03] inlets on
[16:04] streets, um, leaf
[16:06] drainage, um, and for
[16:07] necessary, um,
[16:08] may be needed
[16:09] have some intakes
[16:10] holes in some
[16:11] sewer
[16:12] pipes, but it will be
[16:14] necessary, we also
[16:15] could save
[16:16] some probably in these
[16:17] green areas,
[16:18] for example, reduce
[16:20] or something like that,
[16:21] to supplement. I think that beforehand
[16:23] it is definitely possible. Yes.
[16:26] And we'll look at this,
[16:27] when will we get it, when
[16:28] you will do
[16:29] calculations and everything
[16:30] other. So
[16:31] Thank you, sir.
[16:32] Ahem.
[16:38] Okay, Mr. York.
[16:40] Can we go?
[16:41] to, um, reports? This is a report
[16:48] on petition B-106-18. Ahem,
[16:55] and this is, um, Larry and
[16:56] Joyce Dalton is
[16:57] petitioners, whom
[16:58] represents Mr.
[17:00] Adamski. Ahem,
[17:00] Department of Water
[17:02] resources, Randy
[17:03] Russell, Chief, no
[17:04] has objections. Ahem,
[17:05] Arbor-Hi, um, he's not
[17:06] has objections to this
[17:08] time. Um, fire department
[17:10] service, there are none
[17:11] problems with the petition.
[17:13] Uh, department
[17:14] planning, in the petition
[17:15] the applicant wishes
[17:16] to obtain permission for
[17:17] use, which
[17:18] will allow
[17:18] use
[17:19] free area under
[17:20] residential area for
[17:21] parking, as well as
[17:22] building standard,
[17:23] which will not allow
[17:24] to pave the area, and
[17:25] use
[17:26] gravel, which, like you,
[17:27] maybe you remember,
[17:28] they corrected it
[17:29] floor. So we
[17:30] not tonight
[17:31] we are considering this
[17:32] question. Gravel will be
[17:33] paved. Requirements
[17:35] resolutions on
[17:36] zoning.
[17:37] Real estate is zoned
[17:38] as a one-room apartment
[17:39] residential development R1D.
[17:40] Resolution table
[17:41] about zoning 04.02 02,
[17:43] allowed species
[17:44] use for R1D,
[17:45] do not allow
[17:46] requested
[17:46] using.
[17:47] The applicant proposes
[17:48] use
[17:49] real estate for
[17:50] new parking lot
[17:51] playground. Uh, in
[17:51] I am not here.
[17:52] additional
[17:53] comments on this.
[17:55] Therefore, the proposed
[17:56] conclusions. Standards
[17:58] regarding deviation from
[17:59] using
[18:00] are set out below
[18:01] italics and
[18:02] are in
[18:03] section 28.11
[18:03] subdivision A
[18:04] resolutions on
[18:05] zoning. They also
[18:07] contain
[18:07] proposed
[18:08] department's conclusions. On-
[18:09] first, approval is not
[18:11] will cause harm
[18:11] public
[18:12] health, safety,
[18:13] morality and general
[18:14] community well-being.
[18:16] Suggested
[18:16] planning minimizes
[18:18] environmental impact
[18:19] use, as well as
[18:20] will not cause harm
[18:21] public health
[18:22] through the park, because
[18:23] parking
[18:24] will answer all
[18:25] standards and norms.
[18:27] Second,
[18:28] use and
[18:29] the value of the territory,
[18:30] adjacent to
[18:31] property included
[18:32] to the deviation, not
[18:33] undergo significant
[18:34] negative impact
[18:35] because the new
[18:36] parking lot
[18:37] the playground will be
[18:38] built as
[18:39] real parking lot, and
[18:40] not left as
[18:41] an empty lawn that
[18:42] used,
[18:43] for example, like
[18:44] illegal parking
[18:45] . This will also allow
[18:47] to make things easier
[18:48] street parking
[18:49] and create much
[18:50] safer conditions
[18:51] along Barker-Barker
[18:52] in this place.
[18:53] Availability of proper
[18:54] fenced in
[18:55] and landscaped
[18:56] parking lot
[18:56] the site will not be affected
[18:57] negatively on
[18:58] cost
[18:59] surrounding
[18:59] property. Thirdly,
[19:02] necessity
[19:02] deviation from
[19:03] use occurs
[19:04] because of certain
[19:05] features
[19:06] relevant
[19:06] property.
[19:07] The peculiarity is
[19:08] in that the property
[19:09] is associated with very
[19:10] successful business,
[19:11] located across
[19:13] road. The need for
[19:14] parking has increased
[19:15] thanks to success
[19:16] business that
[19:16] is there
[19:17] for many
[19:18] years. Success created
[19:20] dangerous situation
[19:21] with parking along
[19:22] Barker-A and growing
[19:23] concern about
[19:25] security. This will make it easier
[19:26] some problems with
[19:27] parking along
[19:28] Barker-A and surrounding areas
[19:29] residential areas.
[19:30] Number four, strict
[19:32] application of conditions
[19:33] resolutions on
[19:34] zoning will lead
[19:35] to unnecessary
[19:36] difficulties, if any
[19:37] apply to
[19:38] property for which
[19:39] requested
[19:40] deviation.
[19:41] Approval is not
[19:42] will allow the owner
[19:43] use
[19:44] property as
[19:45] parking and
[19:46] will offer
[19:46] relief for Barker A
[19:47] and the district by
[19:48] consolidation
[19:49] parking.
[19:54] Use also
[19:55] will allow business,
[19:56] who serves
[19:57] parking, stay
[19:58] functional and
[19:59] minimize the impact
[20:00] to the district. Number five,
[20:06] approval substantially
[20:07] does not interfere in
[20:08] comprehensive plan
[20:09] buildings, because
[20:10] the plan provides for
[20:11] promotion
[20:11] commercial
[20:12] development and
[20:13] support for existing
[20:14] districts and the existing
[20:15] population.
[20:16] Recommendation.
[20:17] Department
[20:18] will recommend
[20:19] approval
[20:20] deviation from
[20:21] use, register
[20:22] B. Registry number B-106-18.
[20:24] Sorry, I had this.
[20:25] to fix. 17 is 18 for
[20:27] such conditions.
[20:29] Final project,
[20:29] planning,
[20:30] landscape design
[20:31] and lighting
[20:32] are subject to
[20:32] standards of the resolution
[20:33] about zoning and
[20:34] final
[20:35] approval
[20:35] staff with
[20:36] planning for
[20:36] beginning of construction.
[20:38] And number two, the project
[20:38] parking has
[20:39] stay
[20:40] asphalted and not
[20:41] use
[20:42] gravel. Thank you, sir.
[20:45] York. Board members
[20:47] , is there any further
[20:48] discussion of the petition?
[20:50] Any further
[20:51] discussion or
[20:52] offer? Is there
[20:53] proposal regarding this
[20:54] petitions? I would like to make a proposal
[21:01] about us
[21:02] adopted conclusions
[21:03] about the facts, uh,
[21:04] various reports, about
[21:06] what this petition has
[21:07] to be approved together with
[21:11] recommendations.
[21:14] Mr. Norville,
[21:15] when will you do it, or
[21:16] Can you please specify that?
[21:17] this is an amended petition,
[21:18] because she
[21:19] actually changed from
[21:20] amendments,
[21:20] made from gravel.
[21:21] Yes.
[21:22] Good.
[21:23] So, I have
[21:24] proposal from Mr.
[21:25] Norala. Second.
[21:26] I will support.
[21:27] The second one is from Mr. Hook.
[21:30] Mr. York. Mr. Hook.
[21:31] Yes. Sir
[21:33] Jackson.
[21:34] Yes. Miss Janice. Yes.
[21:36] Mr. Noville.
[21:37] Yes.
[21:38] The proposal was approved.
[21:44] Mr. York. Petition B
[21:46] 107-18, which was the second
[21:47] half of this, is there
[21:49] she is now a petition
[21:50] about debt, is it
[21:51] will also be
[21:52] to be considered in that
[21:54] the part that
[21:55] we must also
[21:56] hear, and we
[21:57] need
[21:57] vote for her
[21:58] separately, because it
[22:00] two separate parcels. THERE ARE-
[22:01] uh, but would you like to,
[22:02] uh, Mr. Gill said
[22:03] I want to ask you whether
[22:04] would you like to do
[22:06] instead of
[22:07] to do the same
[22:07] presentation, or
[22:08] Would you like to enter this?
[22:10] presentation to
[22:10] protocol as yours
[22:11] presentation?
[22:12] Yes, including
[22:13] amended petition or
[22:14] amendment to the petition
[22:15] about what we
[22:16] withdraw the request for
[22:17] deviation from
[22:18] development standards.
[22:19] Absolutely.
[22:20] Very good.
[22:21] Therefore,
[22:22] board members, there are
[22:23] any questions?
[22:24] So, I think we should
[22:25] still needed
[22:26] to hold public
[22:27] hearing, etc., etc.
[22:28] Thank you. Public
[22:31] discussion.
[22:34] . As before,
[22:35] only better.
[22:36] Public discussion
[22:37] . Last call for
[22:39] public
[22:40] discussion.
[22:42] closed. Mr. York,
[22:45] I'm actually going to read the same ones, uh,
[22:48] facts, conclusions and
[22:49] include them in
[22:51] main points.
[22:52] Uh, yes, I can. Thank you
[22:55] for the question. Uh, this is
[22:57] Applicant report B-
[22:59] 10718, uh, Sweetwater LLC. Uh,
[23:02] this is about the deviation
[23:03] from standards
[23:04] using. Uh, this is
[23:06] essentially the same facts,
[23:07] that were included in
[23:08] protocol of the past
[23:10] once. Absolutely so
[23:12] themselves. Uh, and I would just
[23:13] asked that
[23:14] recommendation...I
[23:15] just read
[23:16] recommendation. AND
[23:17] the recommendation is
[23:19] in order for us to
[23:20] approved, um,
[23:21] requested change in
[23:23] used for 107-18,
[23:25] um, B-107-18 under these conditions
[23:28] . Final design
[23:29] plots, planning,
[23:30] landscape design
[23:31] and lighting
[23:32] must comply
[23:32] zoning standards
[23:33] and be final
[23:34] approved
[23:35] staff with
[23:35] planning for
[23:36] beginning of construction.
[23:37] And secondly, design
[23:38] parking has
[23:39] remain
[23:39] asphalted and not
[23:40] use
[23:41] gravel. And, um, if you
[23:43] decide to contribute
[23:44] petition for
[23:45] approval, please
[23:46] , um, make sure,
[23:47] that you added the modified one,
[23:49] um petition to your
[23:50] suggestions.
[23:51] Okay, members.
[23:52] board, is there any
[23:53] discussion of this
[23:54] petitions? Is there any
[23:56] discussion whether there is
[23:57] petition regarding this
[23:58] petitions? I would like to file a petition
[24:05] on approval B 107-18
[24:06] together with
[24:07] recommendations U and
[24:08] amendments. I support this.
[24:13] I have a request.
[24:14] from Mr. Norell,
[24:15] the second from Miss Janice,
[24:18] Mr. York,
[24:20] Mr. Hook,
[24:20] Yes.
[24:22] Mr. Jackson,
[24:23] Yes.
[24:24] Miss Janice,
[24:25] Yes.
[24:26] Mr. Novo,
[24:27] Yes.
[24:27] The request is approved.
[24:33] Thank you,
[24:37] Mr. York. Everything is fine.
[25:08] Mr. York, our
[25:09] the next petition that
[25:10] I would like to submit, this is B
[25:12] 112-18.
[25:14] Good. Uh, this is a petition
[25:17] B-12-18. Um, Michael Connor
[25:19] asks to provide
[25:20] special right to
[25:21] using
[25:22] Big B Coffee coffee shops,
[25:23] located behind
[25:24] address Franklin-
[25:25] Street, 3401.
[25:26] Is there anyone here who
[25:27] can come up with this
[25:28] petition?
[25:29] He will be represented by
[25:30] er, Mr. Connor himself.
[25:31] Good,
[25:39] Sir, please
[25:40] enter your name and
[25:42] address for recording.
[25:43] Michael Connor, Tryon-
[25:45] Road, 11:30, Michigan-
[25:47] City, Indiana. I, uh,
[25:49] here tonight,
[25:51] to discuss
[25:52] real estate in
[25:53] Michigan City on
[25:54] Franklin Street,
[25:56] known as Franklin-
[25:57] Street, 3401. This is an old, uh-
[25:59] e, commercial building
[26:01] . Uh, she is
[26:03] used in
[26:05] for several different purposes
[26:06] for probably 40
[26:07] or 50 years. The main
[26:11] was used
[26:13] or a car repair shop, THERE ARE-
[26:18] Well, the building was
[26:19] purchased for the purpose of
[26:20] is called
[26:21] adaptive repeat
[26:22] using. Therefore,
[26:24] What is adaptive?
[26:25] repeated
[26:25] using? Ahem,
[26:28] adaptive evolution
[26:29] repeated
[26:30] use is
[26:31] in order to find
[26:32] purpose for
[26:33] buildings,
[26:34] the use of which
[26:35] now obsolete.
[26:37] Right? It was
[26:38] thriving business
[26:39] for a while. Someone
[26:40] many years
[26:41] was engaged in repairs
[26:42] cars there. Um,
[26:44] bought a building and, uh,
[26:45] appointed her for
[26:46] retail trade,
[26:47] which could be
[26:48] transfer to this
[26:49] plot, instead of
[26:50] car repair shops,
[26:51] auto repair shops or
[26:52] auto repair shop, which
[26:53] historically was
[26:54] quite unattractive
[26:55] place in this area
[26:57] Franklin Street. So
[27:01] , uh, we went to the market,
[27:02] placed
[27:03] announcement and, uh,
[27:04] received a lot
[27:05] various requests, none
[27:06] of which was not interesting
[27:07] for owners, right?
[27:09] Yes? To us
[27:10] called
[27:11] very wealthy
[27:12] evacuation companies
[27:13] from Gary, Indiana,
[27:14] who wanted
[27:14] use this
[27:16] place, uh, like a place for
[27:17] conducting AAA, and we have
[27:18] there would be cars there
[27:19] , and we would have there
[27:20] tow trucks, and they
[27:21] were ready
[27:22] pay enough
[27:23] a decent amount
[27:24] money for this
[27:24] rooms. Um, us too
[27:26] refused them, and we
[27:27] waited, and we waited, uh,
[27:29] and we kissed a lot
[27:30] frogs, until they are found
[27:31] right for him
[27:32] using,
[27:33] the right tenant
[27:34] . So we held on
[27:36] it. Um, made some
[27:38] improvement. If
[27:40] let me give it away
[27:41] you a photo
[27:42] buildings. So now
[28:09] you should be
[28:09] of course. What is this?
[28:11] building, right? Therefore,
[28:15] about 9 or 10
[28:16] months ago
[28:17] franchise
[28:18] a company from Michigan,
[28:19] uh, started
[28:20] negotiations with us
[28:21] through your broker with
[28:22] Lansing, State
[28:23] Michigan, regarding
[28:24] franchising,
[28:25] retail
[28:26] use of this
[28:27] real estate. AND
[28:30] the reason why they do this
[28:31] attracted, was like that
[28:33] well, like me, was lying
[28:34] in that I wanted to
[28:35] someone from retail
[28:36] trade came to this
[28:38] building, so that
[28:38] use
[28:39] garage door how
[28:40] part of your
[28:41] retail business.
[28:42] Of course they would have
[28:43] men's door, so
[28:44] to get inside,
[28:46] but they
[28:46] would use
[28:47] brand new
[28:48] commercial garages
[28:49] gate for
[28:49] retail trade
[28:50] on your side
[28:51] buildings, that is, from
[28:52] left side of the building,
[28:53] Where do you see that?
[28:54] piece of meat
[28:55] windows. They
[28:56] would use, uh-
[28:57] e, modernized
[28:58] garage doors for
[28:59] commercial
[29:00] uses that
[29:01] would rise and
[29:02] dropped in the summer, and
[29:03] in winter, of course,
[29:05] were falling. And they
[29:07] would use this
[29:08] like, uh, retail
[29:09] business. And the tenant is
[29:13] Big B Coffee. Big B Coffee is
[29:14] retailer
[29:16] from Lansing. They have 300
[29:17] coffee shops all over
[29:18] country, one of
[29:19] fastest growing
[29:20] franchise
[29:21] coffee shop, which
[29:22] tries
[29:23] compete with Starbucks.
[29:25] Uh, located in
[29:26] Lansing. So, uh,
[29:29] their broker started
[29:31] talk to us, and
[29:32] then we agreed, uh-
[29:33] uh, start
[29:34] negotiations with them and
[29:35] started what I told you
[29:37] I'll tell you now, and
[29:38] it is the repair of this
[29:39] real estate within the framework
[29:40] our negotiations with...
[30:06] So, we concluded the letter
[30:07] about intentions, uh, ah
[30:08] then, finally,
[30:09] rental agreement with Bigby,
[30:11] and, uh, they were trying, uh,
[30:12] in a few
[30:13] negotiations with the city,
[30:15] uh, about that, for
[30:16] Why are we here today?
[30:17] in the evening, namely, uh,
[30:19] Bigby wouldn't sign
[30:20] rental agreement for
[30:21] location in Michigan-
[30:23] Cities without a drive-thru. Through
[30:27] a few repetitions, uh,
[30:28] drive-thru concepts with
[30:30] Craig and the
[30:30] Skyler, we've arrived.
[30:32] agreement that you have in front of you
[30:34] now about the drive-thru. Uh,
[30:38] they signed a 15-year
[30:39] rental agreement for this
[30:41] real estate. They
[30:43] will occupy the left
[30:44] part of the plot. Them
[30:46] was needed
[30:47] three-phase
[30:48] wiring,
[30:49] which was not in place,
[30:50] and what Nipkco is now
[30:51] brought to the site.
[30:53] They did it, uh,
[30:54] based on a 15-year
[30:55] rental agreement for
[30:56] modernization
[30:57] power grid in
[30:58] buildings. And, uh, Big B, we
[31:02] requested, uh, permission
[31:03] from the state of Indiana to
[31:05] use of this
[31:06] real estate for
[31:07] commercial purposes and
[31:08] for retail
[31:09] trade on this
[31:10] area. This is permission.
[31:12] for design, or
[31:14] right, Skyler? It
[31:15] is called permission
[31:16] for design. IN
[31:17] we have permission to
[31:17] design from
[31:18] of the state of Indiana, which
[31:19] approves of this place for
[31:21] retail trade.
[31:23] Uh, Big B later
[31:24] received permission from
[31:25] Michigan City and
[31:27] started his work
[31:28] on the site, which are
[31:29] large-scale. Their, uh
[31:32] , part of the work on
[31:33] buildings, uh, for
[31:34] construction only
[31:35] half of this
[31:37] buildings, probably
[31:38] will exceed the pair
[31:39] hundreds of thousands, only
[31:40] for internal
[31:41] repair of the site. It
[31:43] not taking into account that
[31:44] will be done on
[31:45] external side
[31:46] buildings. So, this is, uh,
[31:48] our proposal, which
[31:49] you are considering
[31:50] today. uh, this is
[31:52] adaptive repeat
[31:53] using one
[31:54] from buildings,
[31:54] the use of which
[31:55] became obsolete.
[31:57] The goal is not to
[31:58] in order to demolish
[31:59] buildings, but in order to
[32:00] try to find
[32:01] more intelligent
[32:02] repeated
[32:03] using the old one
[32:04] buildings. And that was it.
[32:06] perfect combination
[32:07] between retail
[32:08] the seller who
[32:09] Got it, uh, place
[32:10] for selling coffee here.
[32:12] In my opinion, they
[32:13] ideally located
[32:14] between Lakeshore Coffee, which
[32:15] is located on
[32:15] Fourth Street,
[32:16] Fourth or Fifth
[32:18] streets, and Starbucks in
[32:19] southern part
[32:20] cities. I think that this
[32:21] will serve
[32:22] many residents in
[32:23] downtown Michigan City,
[32:24] who don't want to drive
[32:25] all the way to the south
[32:26] parts or go to
[32:27] Lakeshore Coffee. I think that
[32:29] it's great from them
[32:31] side, and we are glad to see
[32:32] their tenants in
[32:33] Michigan City. I am from
[32:36] I will be happy to answer.
[32:37] any questions.
[32:39] Thank you, sir. Members
[32:40] board, are there any
[32:42] question? Some
[32:44] question to the gentleman
[32:45] Horse? Are they going to
[32:53] they are posted here
[32:54] coffee? Yes.
[32:57] The plan, as you can see,
[32:58] involves travel from
[32:59] by car, they
[33:00] will go around the building with
[33:01] north end,
[33:03] will gather there and
[33:04] will be on the south
[33:05] ends of the building. They
[33:06] will come and pick up
[33:07] their cars with
[33:08] drive-through windows with
[33:09] south end
[33:10] buildings. They
[33:11] will make one circle,
[33:12] but there is also
[33:13] parking for people
[33:14] who want
[33:15] to park on
[33:16] building area.
[33:28] So, in the summer...Yes,
[33:30] Something happened there. There is more
[33:32] some
[33:33] questions, members
[33:34] rule? Are there any more?
[33:36] question?
[33:38] Thank you, Mr. Connie.
[33:39] Thank you.
[33:42] Ladies and gentlemen, now
[33:43] we open it for
[33:45] public
[33:45] discussion. If there is
[33:47] public
[33:47] discussion of this
[33:48] petitions, please
[33:50] come to
[33:50] microphone.
[34:02] Good evening. Your
[34:04] name and address for
[34:05] records, please.
[34:06] Uh, Scott Roberts, uh
[34:08] , I Street, 309. I have
[34:09] business in the neighborhood.
[34:12] And I think that I
[34:13] The only thing that worries me is that I don't
[34:14] saw any scheme or
[34:16] something other than
[34:17] where the flow will be
[34:18] transport. Uh, mine
[34:20] driveway too
[34:22] runs along
[34:23] the entire back
[34:24] parts of them
[34:24] property. So I don't
[34:26] I was sure, you know,
[34:27] Where exactly will the flow go?
[34:29] transport. And I am a little
[34:31] concerned that
[34:32] happening in front
[34:33] where my
[34:34] clients. That's where it's from.
[34:36] their will come out
[34:37] clients. So I didn't know.
[34:38] , will something happen
[34:39] to share our
[34:40] territory. Or
[34:42] they will establish
[34:43] a chain or something like that,
[34:44] so that people don't come in
[34:46] on my side, right?
[34:48] Could you, sir?
[34:49] Connor, step back here,
[34:50] Please?
[34:52] And just stay.
[34:53] here,
[34:56] because you don't see it,
[34:58] and I would like him to
[34:59] took it
[35:01] and showed him that we
[35:02] could answer
[35:03] question, dispel
[35:05] all doubts and everything
[35:06] another so that everyone can
[35:07] to see that
[35:08] is happening. Therefore,
[35:20] the place where we are bordering where ours is.
[35:22] the territory touches
[35:23] his property,
[35:24] really uplifting
[35:25] the right moment if
[35:27] you will not be careful
[35:28] . Uh, we created
[35:31] enough space for
[35:33] so that the machine
[35:34] could go next to
[35:35] this lane, right?
[35:36] There's enough space there,
[35:37] because, according to
[35:38] by survey, there
[35:39] approximately 17 by 18
[35:40] feet. So, this is
[35:43] small, uh, area
[35:44] open to him on
[35:46] his parking lot, and if
[35:47] this will help him and me
[35:48] I think that's probably it.
[35:50] , will help us both,
[35:51] if there was any
[35:52] barrier that would
[35:53] suited us both,
[35:54] to stop the cars
[35:56] from, perhaps,
[35:56] installing the tire on
[35:58] its area or
[35:59] even from driving in case of emergency
[36:01] situations. There is a place,
[36:04] someone panics, they
[36:05] will be on it
[36:06] area. So, I don't
[36:07] I think this is bad.
[36:09] the idea is to limit it. Yes,
[36:11] but he also
[36:12] worried about
[36:13] rear cross section
[36:14] parts of the property.
[36:15] Right.
[36:21] That's all, all
[36:22] this parking lot
[36:23] is on this,
[36:25] Nothing is outside
[36:27] territory. All
[36:28] is located on
[36:29] own property.
[36:30] I didn't know if you know about this.
[36:32] Yes. And we are not on.
[36:35] So, in this area
[36:36] there are actually four
[36:37] curb exits, and you
[36:38] actually going to
[36:39] give up two
[36:40] of them. The one who
[36:41] closest to yours
[36:42] entrance, will be
[36:43] refused.
[36:44] He is no more.
[36:45] Yes, it is no longer available.
[36:46] will be. Just so you
[36:47] knew about it. AND
[36:48] Yes,
[36:51] no, Skyler wanted
[36:55] you blocked it.
[36:58] So your people
[36:59] come out of here, and these
[37:00] people will come out.
[37:02] Yes. Of course. It was
[37:03] part of the agreements that we
[37:04] Let's close some of them.
[37:06] I don't know why they have
[37:06] there were so many
[37:07] curb exits.
[37:08] There were about seven of them.
[37:09] Yes, they were everywhere.
[37:10] So,
[37:11] just a little
[37:12] remove it to
[37:13] it was easy
[37:13] orientate,
[37:14] to enter and exit,
[37:16] and so that it does not affect
[37:17] at your entrance and exit.
[37:18] That was right.
[37:19] remark, because
[37:20] both of these trips
[37:21] correct.
[37:24] Anything else, sir?
[37:28] No. The only thing I haven't done yet
[37:31] I know, do you know?
[37:32] when Palix and
[37:34] they covered all this
[37:35] gravel, you know, it
[37:36] there were about 8 tons. I am not
[37:39] I know if they had it,
[37:40] are they really
[37:41] have you examined this?
[37:42] they probably
[37:43] leveled everything down.
[37:45] They wanted this.
[37:46] take.
[37:47] Yes. And you now.
[38:02] OK. Of course.
[38:11] OK. So, when
[38:12] I don't care if it is
[38:14] actually better, but
[38:15] I just because it is
[38:16] it was faster. Now you
[38:18] Do you want to move?
[38:18] Well, can you tell me?
[38:19] help? Can you help me
[38:21] pay for it?
[38:22] Well, because I
[38:23] ordered now
[38:24] lay asphalt. So
[38:25] ,
[38:25] seriously?
[38:26] Yes. Do you want
[38:27] asphalt on your side
[38:29] on me? It's easy. I
[38:32] asked
[38:33] to apologize for that
[38:34] was on your
[38:35] property, but was
[38:36] there. There were many
[38:37] things for
[38:37] alignment and
[38:38] removal from the site, but,
[38:39] uh, better than it was.
[38:40] Good. Four curves
[38:42] excavations and gravel. It
[38:43] quite a good deal.
[38:45] Yes. Something else?
[38:48] Good.
[38:50] Thank you,
[38:53] Ladies and gentlemen.
[38:54] More public
[38:55] discussion.
[38:59] . Public
[39:01] discussion now
[39:02] closed. Mr. Connor,
[39:04] You came off easy.
[39:07] Mr. York, can we, please,
[39:09] to get acquainted with
[39:10] your reports?
[39:10] Of course. Of course.
[39:12] Hmm, this is a report for
[39:14] petition B-112-18. Michael
[39:19] Connor, uh, or Big B
[39:21] Coffee. Uh,
[39:22] Department of Water
[39:23] resources, Randy
[39:24] Russell, no objection.
[39:25] Sanitation, er,
[39:26] also does not deny. THERE ARE-
[39:28] uh, the fire department is not
[39:29] denies. Uh,
[39:30] department
[39:31] planning, applicants,
[39:32] which require
[39:32] special exception
[39:34] for a restaurant with
[39:34] service
[39:35] by car in
[39:36] zoning district
[39:37] B2. Requirements of the resolution
[39:38] about zoning. Dana
[39:39] property
[39:40] is located in zone B2,
[39:41] general
[39:42] commercial district.
[39:43] A resolution is needed.
[39:44] about zoning 7.02 in
[39:45] Table 7.02 requires
[39:46] from restaurants with
[39:47] service
[39:48] by car
[39:49] to apply for
[39:50] special exception
[39:51] through BZA so that they
[39:52] responded
[39:53] additional requirements,
[39:54] contained in
[39:55] proposed
[39:56] section 14.06
[39:56] Subdivision B
[39:57] provisions on
[39:58] using.
[39:59] The applicant proposes
[40:00] open a coffee shop with
[40:01] service
[40:02] by car for
[40:03] new coffee shop in
[40:04] this place. uh,
[40:05] comments. The only one
[40:06] the remark that I
[40:07] I'm going to do it, and I
[40:08] did, perhaps,
[40:09] realizing this, this
[40:11] that new coffee shop
[40:12] almost completely
[40:13] will use
[40:14] parking spaces
[40:15] here, as well as mandatory,
[40:16] and I in more detail
[40:17] I will tell you about it.
[40:18] later. Therefore,
[40:19] parking required
[40:20] for this coffee shop
[40:22] is approximately
[40:23] 13 places currently
[40:24] exhausts to the maximum
[40:25] parking spaces on
[40:27] territory. Therefore,
[40:28] proposed
[40:28] using,
[40:29] proposed
[40:30] conclusions regarding
[40:31] special
[40:31] exceptional
[40:32] using,
[40:33] standards
[40:33] special
[40:34] exceptional
[40:35] using
[40:35] set out below and
[40:36] contained in
[40:37] zoning
[40:38] at the disposal of 24.05, and
[40:39] department conclusions
[40:40] planning is given
[40:41] lower. Number one-
[40:42] general welfare.
[40:44] The offer is not
[40:45] will cause harm
[40:45] health, safety and
[40:47] general welfare
[40:48] communities. Repeated
[40:49] use of this
[40:50] buildings and crossing
[40:51] from the platform for
[40:52] used cars
[40:53] and auto repair shops to
[40:54] new commercial
[40:55] The coffee shop won't hurt.
[40:56] harm to the public
[40:57] health and safety
[40:58] and general
[40:59] community well-being.
[41:00] Number two - surrounding
[41:01] property.
[41:02] Special exceptional
[41:03] use not
[41:04] will cause harm
[41:04] use and
[41:05] using another
[41:06] property in
[41:07] direct
[41:07] proximity for already
[41:08] permitted purpose, and
[41:09] also not significantly
[41:10] will reduce or not
[41:11] will worsen the cost
[41:12] real estate in this
[41:13] district. Installation
[41:14] special exception
[41:15] regarding the use of not
[41:16] will hinder
[41:17] normal and
[41:17] orderly
[41:18] improvement
[41:19] surrounding
[41:19] real estate for
[41:20] using,
[41:21] permitted in the district.
[41:22] This is the use
[41:23] similar to others
[41:24] types of use,
[41:25] located
[41:26] near and
[41:26] directly
[41:27] adjacent to this
[41:28] real estate.
[41:29] Danger number three.
[41:31] Special exception
[41:32] regarding the use of not
[41:33] should be
[41:34] dangers for
[41:35] neighboring
[41:36] real estate or
[41:37] comprise
[41:37] using,
[41:38] activity,
[41:39] materials or
[41:40] equipment that
[41:40] will cause harm
[41:41] health, safety and
[41:43] the well-being of people or
[41:44] property due to excessive
[41:45] noise generation from
[41:46] traffic, smoke
[41:47] or smell, exhaust
[41:49] gases or glare.
[41:50] This is the use
[41:51] similar to others
[41:51] types of use,
[41:52] located in
[41:53] direct
[41:54] proximity to this
[41:55] real estate.
[41:56] Public facilities and
[41:57] services.
[41:58] The use will be
[41:59] properly
[42:00] to be served
[42:00] important
[42:01] public
[42:02] objects and
[42:02] services such as
[42:03] highways,
[42:04] streets, police and
[42:05] fire protection,
[42:06] drainage structures,
[42:07] water supply and
[42:08] sewage, buildings,
[42:09] waste disposal
[42:10] and schools. Was it or
[42:12] appropriate measures will be taken
[42:13] measures for
[42:14] securing entry
[42:15] and departure in this way
[42:16] to minimize
[42:17] traffic jams on
[42:18] public streets.
[42:20] This area has all the
[42:21] necessary public
[42:22] objects
[42:23] directly next to,
[42:24] and within the framework
[42:24] preparatory work for
[42:26] construction of a new wells
[42:28] there will be no sewage system,
[42:29] but everything was...they
[42:30] passed through the department
[42:31] sewage and
[42:32] sanitation, received
[42:33] all permissions for their
[42:34] siphons and the like. I
[42:35] should have said that...
[42:36] all other important
[42:37] public facilities are
[42:39] sufficient for this
[42:40] places. Number five,
[42:41] building requirements.
[42:43] Development of the site
[42:44] will respond
[42:45] the purpose of the requirements for
[42:46] buildings,
[42:47] established by this
[42:48] resolution for
[42:49] similar
[42:49] using.
[42:51] The building will be
[42:51] designed,
[42:52] built,
[42:53] exploited,
[42:54] to be served and
[42:55] will be compatible with
[42:55] existing or
[42:56] predictable
[42:57] the nature of the general
[42:58] neighborhood, based on
[42:59] comprehensive plan
[43:00] land management of the district, and
[43:01] will not change it
[43:03] significantly. This building
[43:04] fits the purpose
[43:05] comprehensive plan
[43:06] land management, which
[43:07] provides
[43:08] self-oriented
[43:09] business along
[43:10] street corridor
[43:11] Franklin, 421. Room
[43:12] six, intention
[43:13] resolutions. Granting
[43:16] special exception
[43:17] for use not
[43:18] will contradict
[43:19] general goals, which
[43:20] this resolution serves,
[43:21] and will not harm
[43:22] permanent damage
[43:23] other property or
[43:24] use in the same
[43:25] zoning district
[43:26] and nearby. Approval
[43:27] this special
[43:28] exception for
[43:29] use not
[43:30] will change constantly
[43:31] building scheme that
[43:32] is in this
[43:33] street area
[43:34] Franklin, 421. Room
[43:35] seven, development plan
[43:36] lands of the district.
[43:37] Suggested
[43:38] use will be
[43:39] answer
[43:39] nature of zoning
[43:40] the area in which it is
[43:41] located, according to
[43:43] recommendations of the plan
[43:44] land development
[43:45] district. Request for
[43:47] special exception
[43:48] will respond
[43:49] character and purpose
[43:50] relevant
[43:51] zoning of the area and
[43:52] development plan
[43:53] lands of the district. Number
[43:56] eight, rules
[43:57] using. Where
[43:58] there are specific rules
[43:59] use that
[44:00] contained in Article 14,
[44:02] special exception
[44:03] you must
[44:03] apply together
[44:04] with all the rules that
[44:06] apply to
[44:07] use according to
[44:11] with subdivision B. eh,
[44:12] restaurants with
[44:13] drive-through services
[44:14] must comply
[44:15] next additional
[44:17] requirements. Number one,
[44:20] drive-through facility
[44:21] should be
[44:22] located on
[44:22] side or rear
[44:23] part of the building to
[44:24] minimize
[44:25] visual visibility
[44:26] from public and
[44:27] private road.
[44:28] The plot must be
[44:29] oriented towards this
[44:30] so that the lanes for
[44:31] driveway and windows
[44:32] there were no landings
[44:33] a noticeable part
[44:34] buildings. You can
[44:35] notice that he
[44:36] located on
[44:36] south side
[44:37] object, and the scoreboard
[44:38] orders
[44:39] located closer
[44:40] to the back
[44:41] buildings. So,
[44:42] this is respected. Service
[44:44] travel from
[44:44] cars has
[44:45] to be fenced off
[44:46] from the neighbors
[44:47] residential premises
[44:48] solid
[44:49] shielding walls,
[44:50] according to the resolution
[44:53] 17.03, so that
[44:55] this had no effect on
[44:56] use and
[44:57] pleasure from
[44:58] residential real estate
[45:00] . Adjacent rooms
[45:03] in the north, south and
[45:04] behind is commercial
[45:05] real estate zone B2. AND
[45:08] then we can
[45:09] work through some
[45:10] extra things
[45:11] ahead, perhaps, for us
[45:13] will have to be planted
[45:14] some shrubs
[45:15] in front to shade
[45:16] these lights that shine.
[45:19] This is the only thing I wanted.
[45:21] would add. Thirdly,
[45:24] must be ensured
[45:25] clear demarcation
[45:27] between travel from
[45:27] cars and
[45:28] parking lot
[45:29] playground. You may notice that
[45:32] this was adhered to.
[45:33] See the plan
[45:34] plots. Must be
[45:36] at least 10 seats
[45:37] for stacking. I know that this is not the case here.
[45:41] shown, but we
[45:42] measured, and probably
[45:43] there are more than 10
[45:44] parking spaces,
[45:45] which extend
[45:46] from the lane to
[45:47] back to
[45:48] actual
[45:49] front
[45:50] north corner.
[45:52] Probably more like 15
[45:54] places. Um, number five,
[45:59] every checkpoint
[46:00] must have a stripe
[46:01] evacuation so that others
[46:02] vehicles
[46:03] could bypass those,
[46:04] who is waiting for
[46:05] service. Um,
[46:06] you may notice,
[46:07] What does he have, uh,
[46:08] opportunity to do
[46:09] two evacuation lanes,
[46:10] one of the northern
[46:11] sides and one of
[46:12] southern. Uh,
[46:13] north side
[46:14] was what we were working on
[46:15] worked. She was
[46:16] narrower, but we really
[46:18] we believe that there should be
[46:19] way to get around
[46:20] both sides. Therefore,
[46:21] it was done. Um,
[46:24] will be provided
[46:25] only one access per
[46:26] any street. It
[46:28] was completed.
[46:29] See the plan
[46:29] plots. Uh, they
[46:31] provide access
[46:32] along 4 US 429 Franklin Street
[46:34] and access along Chestnut
[46:35] , and also close, uh
[46:37] , two existing curbs,
[46:38] which ones are there now, about which ones
[46:40] we talked before. THERE ARE-
[46:41] uh, closing these two.
[46:44] Uh, number seven, where
[46:45] restaurant built
[46:46] next to commercial
[46:47] use, will be
[46:49] direct installed
[46:50] transport connection
[46:51] with the neighbor
[46:52] plot, if it is
[46:52] perhaps. Um, we just
[46:54] received
[46:54] message from
[46:55] owner of the neighboring
[46:56] plots. Um, if they
[46:58] wish to continue
[46:59] sharing, um, me
[47:00] I will say that this is now.
[47:02] exists, but can also be
[47:05] saved in
[47:06] future through
[47:07] easement, uh, some kind
[47:08] access agreement. It
[47:09] to you guys,
[47:10] decide whether you want
[47:11] you continue
[47:12] shared use
[47:13] , or sharing,
[47:15] but I'll let you decide
[47:16] you. It's not something that isn't there.
[47:17] requirement. It's simple.
[47:19] proposal, this
[47:20] recommendation. Uh,
[47:21] department
[47:22] would recommend
[47:23] approve
[47:24] proposed
[47:25] special exception
[47:26] for use B-112-8
[47:28] under such conditions. It
[47:32] approval
[47:32] applies only
[47:34] to the use that
[47:35] is the subject of a petition,
[47:36] and any extension
[47:37] this use
[47:38] or other
[47:39] use on this
[47:40] property will require
[47:42] , uh, providing
[47:42] additional
[47:43] parking space
[47:44] according to the article
[47:45] 18 resolutions on
[47:46] zoning to
[47:47] settlement. And I wanted
[47:48] would be a little more detailed
[47:50] explain this. I know,
[47:51] who hinted at this on
[47:52] beginning, uh, reading
[47:54] it. Uh, for now
[47:55] the party that
[47:56] used, uh
[47:57] , we calculate, uh,
[47:59] parking based
[48:00] square feet, uh,
[48:02] essentially, uh, areas for
[48:03] service
[48:04] customers. So, this is not
[48:07] includes rear
[48:07] part of the restaurant or
[48:09] coffee shops. So it's not
[48:11] includes, uh, where
[48:12] They are making coffee. It
[48:13] includes a place where
[48:15] are clients.
[48:16] So it's not really
[48:17] very large space
[48:18] now. So it turns out
[48:20] approximately 13 seats. Hmm,
[48:23] and if you noticed,
[48:24] there were about 14
[48:26] places. So, hmm,
[48:27] additional
[48:28] using,
[48:29] let's say, from the right
[48:30] side of the building or from
[48:31] north side
[48:32] buildings, will require
[48:33] additional
[48:34] parking if
[48:35] only this is not
[48:36] use that is not
[48:37] needs parking,
[48:38] what can't I do
[48:39] to think of something not
[48:40] needs parking.
[48:41] You know, I
[48:42] sure that they can
[48:43] be one or two. Hmm,
[48:45] but for this
[48:46] an easement will be needed
[48:47] with a neighbor, uh,
[48:48] buying land, simply
[48:49] search for parking in
[48:51] radius around this
[48:52] buildings that we allow the code.
[48:54] So, I just wanted to
[48:56] explain this a little,
[48:57] to clarify a little. Therefore,
[48:58] at the moment they
[49:00] meet the requirements
[49:01] regarding parking.
[49:03] Thank you, Mr. York.
[49:05] Board members, are there any?
[49:06] some discussion
[49:07] this petition or
[49:08] suggestions? would like
[49:18] to make a proposal
[49:19] about acceptance
[49:26] conclusions regarding
[49:28] facts, reports and
[49:29] approval of petition B
[49:31] 12-18 together with
[49:32] recommendations. IN
[49:37] I have an offer from
[49:38] Mr. Norbell. THERE ARE
[49:40] friend?
[49:41] I support her.
[49:42] Second offer from
[49:44] Miss Janice.
[49:45] You wanted to read
[49:46] recommendations, sir
[49:48] Norville? Are you okay?
[49:49] I'm fine.
[49:50] Good.
[49:53] So, we have
[49:53] recommendation and, uh,
[49:55] condition, as well as
[49:56] part of the approval.
[49:57] Good. Simply
[49:58] make sure.
[49:59] Good.
[50:00] Mr. York, the count
[50:02] , please.
[50:05] Mr. Hook.
[50:06] Yes.
[50:08] Mr. Jackson.
[50:09] Yes.
[50:11] Miss Janice. Yes.
[50:14] Mr. Noel.
[50:15] Yes.
[50:16] The proposal was approved.
[50:17] Congratulations, sir.
[50:19] Thank you.
[50:24] Um, Mr. Connor, we are
[50:25] we can work
[50:26] over additional
[50:27] things in advance, I want to make sure that
[50:29] we are not shining
[50:30] with lights directly on
[50:31] you, and I think we
[50:32] must do this,
[50:33] even if you
[50:34] achieved significant
[50:35] improvement, because
[50:36] this is not a car
[50:37] parking. Thank you. Thank you.
[50:51] Okay, Mr. York, our
[50:53] the next petition,
[50:54] Please. Good. It
[50:58] petition B-11-18 regarding
[51:02] interfaith
[51:04] public
[51:04] shelters, in which
[51:05] permission requested
[51:07] for use
[51:08] real estate for
[51:09] community center,
[51:10] located behind
[51:11] at West 8th street, 101. I don't
[51:13] sure who exactly
[51:15] will speak
[51:16] tonight.
[51:20] Good evening, sir.
[51:22] Please provide
[51:23] your name and address
[51:24] for records.
[51:25] My name is John Wra. I live at the address
[51:28] 109 Beverly Court,
[51:29] Michigan City, and I am
[51:30] lawyer on issues
[51:32] interfaith
[51:33] public
[51:34] shelters and sisters
[51:35] Gary. Besides me,
[51:38] tonight at
[51:39] I will be two.
[51:40] speakers from
[51:40] evidence on
[51:41] support our
[51:42] petitions. What for those of
[51:46] you, who are not familiar,
[51:48] Gary's sisters own
[51:49] this property, and
[51:50] this property is
[51:52] old church of St.
[51:53] Hearts at West
[51:55] -street, 100001, Michigan-
[51:56] City. Gary's Sisters
[52:00] own all
[52:01] Catholic
[52:02] churches, all over
[52:03] parish
[52:03] property, all
[52:04] schools and secondary schools in Michigan-
[52:07] City. Interfaith
[52:09] public shelters
[52:10] –it is the only one in the district
[52:13] Liport program
[52:14] temporary
[52:14] emergency housing as
[52:16] for men, and
[52:17] for women. AND
[52:17] abbreviation PAD
[52:18] decoded as "
[52:20] public action delivering shelter"
[52:21] public action that
[52:22] provides shelter).
[52:24] And here we are today
[52:25] in the evening, and we ask
[52:26] about special
[52:27] exception for
[52:27] using. Property,
[52:30] old church
[52:31] the property belongs to the Daskese family from Gary
[52:33] . Relative of Dasqueze
[52:35] ready to sacrifice
[52:37] this property
[52:37] interfaith
[52:42] public facilities,
[52:43] for construction
[52:44] community center,
[52:45] and we are looking for
[52:46] special exception,
[52:47] therefore the first witness,
[52:48] whom I will invite,
[52:49] Mr. Rojak, you
[52:50] agree that you will ask for
[52:51] special exception
[52:52] for use
[52:53] tonight,
[52:53] special
[52:54] exception for
[52:54] using,
[52:55] special
[52:55] exception for
[52:56] using,
[52:57] yes, I just want to
[52:58] this was recorded in
[52:59] protocol,
[52:59] the first witness, whom
[53:00] we will have here
[53:01] tonight,
[53:02] will be Mr. Harrison
[53:03] Holt Kemp, whom I
[53:04] I'm going to call.
[53:05] Um, Mr. Holt Kemp.
[53:17] Good evening. Your
[53:18] name and address for
[53:19] records, please.
[53:20] My name is Harrison.
[53:22] Holamp, 7871 West 400
[53:23] North, Michigan City.
[53:26] Mr. Holtamp, you
[53:27] director
[53:27] interfaith
[53:28] public roads? I
[53:30] director.
[53:31] And how long have you been
[53:32] director?
[53:34] I have been a director for three years.
[53:35] , and I'm a volunteer there already
[53:37] 17 years old.
[53:39] And does it provide
[53:40] interfaith
[53:41] community emergency
[53:42] shelter for
[53:42] men and women,
[53:44] who do not have
[53:44] affordable housing?
[53:46] We provide.
[53:48] And what other services
[53:49] interfaith
[53:50] the community provides
[53:51] community and guests
[53:52] institution?
[53:53] So, when the guests
[53:54] we are arriving,
[53:55] of course, we give them
[53:56] shelter. We also
[53:58] We provide them with food.
[54:00] We provide
[54:01] help so that others
[54:02] agencies could
[54:03] to help our
[54:04] guests to leave
[54:05] homelessness.
[54:07] And is there an Interfaith
[54:08] community as one
[54:09] emergency shelter
[54:10] in Leeport County for
[54:11] men and women?
[54:12] Er, for men–
[54:13] Yes. For women, yes. THERE ARE
[54:15] and other agencies that
[54:16] offer emergency
[54:17] help. Uh, we
[54:18] the only emergency
[54:19] shelter for
[54:20] men and women,
[54:21] which works constantly.
[54:22] How many months
[54:23] year working male
[54:24] shelter?
[54:25] Men now
[54:26] six are working
[54:27] months in our
[54:27] program. Six
[54:28] months in the program
[54:30] The Salvation Army.
[54:32] And next to the property,
[54:33] regarding which we ask
[54:35] petition, at 10:01 West 8, or
[54:37] Is there a women's shelter?
[54:39] There is a women's and a family one
[54:41] shelter, Sun Castle.
[54:42] And how long is this
[54:43] Does the shelter exist?
[54:44] I think Castle
[54:45] is there
[54:46] about 5 years,
[54:47] maybe six. And how
[54:50] is working now
[54:50] men's shelter.
[54:52] Can you describe?
[54:53] to the members of the council on issues
[54:54] zoning like this
[54:55] works and how is it
[54:56] worked during
[54:57] the last 17 years?
[54:58] So, we invite
[54:59] our guests. Hmm, near
[55:01] There is a small entrance
[55:02] protection. Actually,
[55:03] there are many at the entrance
[55:04] security. So we check their
[55:06] things. We examine them,
[55:07] and this year we are going
[55:08] to provide an overview,
[55:09] metal detector everyone
[55:10] their things. Not that
[55:11] we ever
[55:12] there were problems, but we want to provide
[55:14] the safety of our place
[55:14] and their safety. We also offer
[55:16] breathalyzer near
[55:17] entrance, not for that,
[55:18] to exclude people,
[55:19] and in order to
[55:20] actually
[55:20] diagnose people.
[55:21] Hmm, in the warmer months,
[55:22] when the temperature
[55:23] above 40 °, we do not
[55:24] we allow guests in
[55:25] intoxicated
[55:25] drunkenness brothers
[55:26] participation in our
[55:27] program. But when
[55:28] temperature below 40 °
[55:29] , for their sake
[55:30] security we really them
[55:31] we let in. They
[55:32] are in
[55:32] a small area where they
[55:33] not allowed
[55:34] communicate with
[55:34] other guests
[55:35] for several
[55:36] hours. So, they
[55:36] receive a small
[55:38] respite for
[55:38] adults, um, for their own
[55:40] guilt. We also
[55:41] we have the opportunity
[55:42] talk to them, and
[55:43] we pass on their
[55:44] wrong numbers,
[55:45] their numbers displayed
[55:46] consultants and
[55:47] their affairs in Keys to
[55:48] Hope.
[55:50] And what about
[55:51] number of institutions
[55:52] men's shelter,
[55:53] which is now in
[55:54] Michigan City, how much?
[55:55] institutions you
[55:56] Do you use?
[55:58] Um, now we have
[55:59] eight churches that
[56:00] cooperate with our
[56:01] male and female
[56:03] programs.
[56:05] And these churches
[56:06] located on
[56:07] throughout the center
[56:08] Michigan City. Ahem,
[56:10] six of them
[56:11] are in the center
[56:12] cities. Yes, six of them are in
[56:13] the city center, and two of
[56:14] them now
[56:15] are on
[56:15] south side
[56:16] cities.
[56:16] Is it used?
[56:17] Sacred Heart for some
[56:19] parts of operations
[56:20] now in this season?
[56:21] Sacred Heart, because they
[56:22] derived from
[56:23] operation. Now
[56:24] they are not part of
[56:25] our operations, but
[56:26] last year they
[56:27] were, five nights at
[56:28] week. Before this,
[56:29] only two, up to five between
[56:31] both programs.
[56:32] They are very important for
[56:34] us. And did they arise?
[56:36] any problems with
[56:37] operations at Sacred Heart?
[56:39] Well, what about yours?
[56:41] activities at Sacred Heart?
[56:42] No. No. Sacred Heart has it all
[56:44] perfectly. This is perfect.
[56:46] place.
[56:50] Is it interfaith?
[56:51] community annually
[56:52] provides approximately
[56:53] 7000 nights of accommodation,
[56:56] including
[56:57] six months old
[56:57] men's program and
[56:59] annual year-round
[57:00] women's program? If
[57:01] name one person,
[57:02] who sleeps one night,
[57:03] at night, then for the last
[57:05] we recorded the year
[57:06] over 7000 nights.
[57:09] And do you work without
[57:10] government grants?
[57:11] We don't get
[57:12] no state
[57:13] grants. We get
[57:14] some local grants
[57:16] from Unity Foundation, MCCE,
[57:17] other similar ones
[57:17] organizations,
[57:18] mostly from
[57:19] charitable donations
[57:20] in its natural form.
[57:23] Can you estimate,
[57:24] How many guests are you?
[57:25] served on time
[57:26] your volunteer
[57:27] work as a director?
[57:29] So, ever since I
[57:30] became director, in
[57:31] there were on average 10 of us
[57:33] about 85-85 receptions
[57:34] for men
[57:35] programs in the first year
[57:37] when I was 16-17
[57:38] years; next
[57:39] this figure increased
[57:41] up to about 90, and
[57:42] last year in
[57:43] men's program
[57:45] there were about 119 people.
[57:47] In the women's program,
[57:48] because this is all new
[57:49] in the first year, hmm,
[57:51] we registered
[57:52] about 40 people between
[57:53] summer and winter
[57:54] shelters; it
[57:55] includes children.
[57:58] Can you tell me?
[58:00] that was a lot
[58:00] success stories
[58:01] some people who
[58:02] died during your
[58:03] programs?
[58:04] Oh, I have a lot.
[58:05] success stories. IN
[58:06] I probably have several.
[58:07] success stories here in
[58:08] the crowd behind me.
[58:09] Hmm, one that falls
[58:10] in our opinion, hmm
[58:11] the first woman in our
[58:13] women's shelter
[58:14] came to the second
[58:15] day. On the first day in
[58:16] our female
[58:16] We don't have a shelter.
[58:17] there were guests, and I thought I did.
[58:19] a huge mistake,
[58:20] but on the second night it
[58:20] there was a mother who came out
[58:21] from the bus, which
[58:22] runs right in front
[58:23] shelter at Sacred Heart with my little 5-
[58:25] one-year-old daughter, and
[58:25] they stayed on
[58:26] night. They were ours.
[58:27] the first guests, and
[58:28] during the week they
[58:29] got into another one
[58:30] asylum programs,
[58:31] what we are working on
[58:32] side by side with CCH, Citizens
[58:33] Concerned for the Homeless, and they
[58:34] run Sandcastle. They
[58:35] were participants in this
[58:36] programs, and during
[58:37] two weeks in
[58:38] They are back at Sandcastle
[58:39] were in their own
[58:39] apartment with
[58:40] agencies with which
[58:41] we cooperate,
[58:42] especially when people
[58:42] submit applications themselves.
[58:43] This is really
[58:44] happens quickly,
[58:45] and in this area there is
[58:46] many agencies that
[58:47] help us, and we work closely with
[58:49] them.
[58:50] Is the property Sacred?
[58:52] Heart on the bus
[58:53] route? He is on
[58:54] bus route
[58:55] every half hour
[58:57] in front of this building at
[58:58] 8:00 p.m., at 8:00 p.m., and at 10:00 a.m.
[58:59] And why the bus?
[59:00] Is the route important?
[59:01] So some of our
[59:02] it is difficult for guests
[59:03] to move around on foot
[59:04] Some of our guests
[59:05] actually
[59:06] returning from
[59:06] works, and they,
[59:07] probably don't have
[59:08] machinery. In our
[59:09] the program is very small
[59:10] drivers. But also
[59:11] it is important simply
[59:12] to reach others
[59:13] services, which, again,
[59:14] yes, if in Michigan-
[59:15] The city has services that everyone
[59:16] separated, and
[59:16] bus route
[59:17] actually connects them
[59:18] all together. Therefore, when
[59:19] I create websites and
[59:20] I'm trying to ask.
[59:21] other churches to become
[59:21] part of our
[59:22] programs, I am sure that they
[59:23] on the bus
[59:24] route, because it is
[59:25] vital for
[59:25] our program. For
[59:26] our guests life
[59:28] it is important to move around
[59:29] city.
[59:30] You belong to
[59:31] correct
[59:32] religious community?
[59:34] You are asking about
[59:35] deviation from
[59:36] special
[59:36] using?
[59:39] Yes.
[59:40] And with this deviation
[59:41] from special
[59:42] use, or
[59:43] undertakes
[59:44] organizer
[59:44] donate to you
[59:45] real estate?
[59:47] Yes. Within the framework
[59:55] preparation for
[59:56] today's
[59:57] in the evening you ask
[1:00:03] me to get thoughts
[1:00:04] regarding any
[1:00:08] economic impact
[1:00:09] this property on
[1:00:11] owners of the neighboring
[1:00:12] real estate in this
[1:00:13] district. I did it.
[1:00:15] And I show you
[1:00:16] document marked
[1:00:17] as proof number one.
[1:00:19] Can you describe,
[1:00:20] What kind of document is this? There
[1:00:21] written "Service
[1:00:23] "Leeport County Assessments"
[1:00:24] . It looks like this, hmm,
[1:00:26] meeting minutes
[1:00:27] of
[1:00:27] location "
[1:00:28] Sacred Heart". Uh,
[1:00:32] he essentially expresses,
[1:00:34] hmm, how much space is there,
[1:00:41] how many, hmm, are there
[1:00:42] parking spaces,
[1:00:43] hmm, what is it really from?
[1:00:45] composes itself
[1:00:46] community, and it doesn't have to,
[1:00:47] hmm, negative
[1:00:48] impact on existing
[1:00:49] neighbors or the area, and
[1:00:50] also provides
[1:00:51] humanitarian and
[1:00:52] charitable services
[1:00:53] outraged and most
[1:00:54] our needy
[1:00:55] communities.
[1:00:59] So, this is professional
[1:01:00] Mr. Lewis's opinion
[1:01:01] Assessment error
[1:01:02] district, that this
[1:01:03] will not have shelter
[1:01:04] no negative
[1:01:06] impact on existing
[1:01:07] neighbors or neighborhood. I see this for the first time, and,
[1:01:11] Of course. Yes.
[1:01:13] Excuse me, gentlemen. Sir
[1:01:15] Wait, can you?
[1:01:16] please,
[1:01:17] read this to
[1:01:18] protocol?
[1:01:19] If you are going to do this
[1:01:20] to lift...Yes, I want to, have this read to
[1:01:22] protocol, please
[1:01:23] . I apologize, friends,
[1:01:24] but
[1:01:25] I just want
[1:01:26] make sure that this
[1:01:27] Yes.
[1:01:27] Good. Letters to me,
[1:01:30] um, at the meeting from 10
[1:01:31] September 2018 regarding
[1:01:33] Sacred Heart Church
[1:01:34] at 101 West H
[1:01:36] Street. The question that
[1:01:37] they put me,
[1:01:38] is whether
[1:01:39] proposed change
[1:01:40] using
[1:01:41] will harm the area.
[1:01:42] As far as I understand,
[1:01:43] Dasseze with Gary,
[1:01:44] the current owner has
[1:01:46] intention to convey
[1:01:47] organization building
[1:01:48] called Interface City Pads
[1:01:50] . Historically Hitter Interfaith
[1:01:52] City Pads managed
[1:01:53] a refuge for
[1:01:53] homeless men
[1:01:55] within six
[1:01:56] months per year,
[1:01:56] spending one night in
[1:01:58] seven local
[1:01:59] churches of various
[1:01:59] religious
[1:02:00] beliefs and
[1:02:01] denominations, including
[1:02:02] existing church
[1:02:03] Sacred Heart.
[1:02:04] As far as I understand,
[1:02:05] you are applying for
[1:02:06] receiving benefits for
[1:02:07] special
[1:02:08] use to seven
[1:02:09] churches could
[1:02:09] use
[1:02:10] Church of the Sacred Heart
[1:02:11] seven days a week
[1:02:12] as a shelter for
[1:02:13] homeless men.
[1:02:15] It should be noted that
[1:02:16] emergency points
[1:02:17] worked during
[1:02:18] many years without
[1:02:19] incidents. Object
[1:02:21] Sacred Heart
[1:02:21] consists of two
[1:02:22] areas where
[1:02:23] church is located
[1:02:25] building and another one
[1:02:26] disorderly
[1:02:26] area. Existing
[1:02:28] The building has an area of ​​5644
[1:02:29] square feet and
[1:02:31] approximately 12,700
[1:02:32] square feet
[1:02:33] asphalt
[1:02:34] coating. Existing
[1:02:36] the area is assigned to
[1:02:37] R1D zones as
[1:02:37] single-family
[1:02:38] residential building on
[1:02:39] residential areas
[1:02:40] medium size.
[1:02:42] In my opinion, this
[1:02:42] complex enough
[1:02:43] big and has
[1:02:44] sufficient quantity
[1:02:45] heat sources to
[1:02:46] more than
[1:02:47] to satisfy one's own
[1:02:48] using. According to
[1:02:49] with the R1D district, churches,
[1:02:50] chapels, temples,
[1:02:51] community centers
[1:02:52] need
[1:02:53] special
[1:02:54] options
[1:02:54] use, but
[1:02:55] such use as
[1:02:57] rule, allowed as
[1:02:58] part of the housing
[1:02:59] complex and is
[1:03:00] ubiquitous in
[1:03:01] most areas
[1:03:02] Michigan City. On mine
[1:03:04] opinion, use
[1:03:06] men's shelter
[1:03:07] doesn't have much
[1:03:08] harmful effects on
[1:03:09] existing neighbors or
[1:03:10] district, but provides
[1:03:11] humanitarian and
[1:03:12] compassionate help
[1:03:13] needy and
[1:03:14] the most needy
[1:03:15] of our community. Except
[1:03:17] moreover, the use
[1:03:18] this object
[1:03:19] will prevent
[1:03:20] vandalism and
[1:03:21] crimes that are often
[1:03:23] occur in
[1:03:23] buildings that are less common
[1:03:25] populated, respectively,
[1:03:26] submitted by Lewis Pazudo,
[1:03:27] certified
[1:03:28] residential appraiser
[1:03:29] state real estate
[1:03:30] Indiana. To the letter
[1:03:33] attached
[1:03:34] Mr. qualification
[1:03:35] Pizudo. There are two more or
[1:03:55] three more letters. Hmm, one
[1:03:58] from the Social Group
[1:03:59] justice of the city
[1:04:00] Michigan, one from
[1:04:08] home team
[1:04:09] district coordinator,
[1:04:11] one from
[1:04:11] public fund.
[1:04:12] Do you want me too?
[1:04:14] Did you read them?
[1:04:16] If the letters are
[1:04:17] filed as public
[1:04:19] document, yes, I am
[1:04:20] I want these people here.
[1:04:21] heard exactly what
[1:04:22] I just did it.
[1:04:23] I mean, I
[1:04:24] I'm sorry, friends, but
[1:04:26] I think you all
[1:04:26] deserve to hear
[1:04:28] everything we see that
[1:04:29] we see and what we hear.
[1:04:30] This next letter,
[1:04:32] which we call
[1:04:33] proof two, from
[1:04:34] Social groups
[1:04:35] justice of the city
[1:04:36] Michigan. Please,
[1:04:37] accept our
[1:04:38] support for the application for
[1:04:39] interfaith
[1:04:40] public ways for
[1:04:41] use on
[1:04:42] area at the address
[1:04:43] West A Street, 10001,
[1:04:44] former church
[1:04:45] Sacred Heart.
[1:04:46] Michigan City has
[1:04:47] great need for
[1:04:47] permanent shelter
[1:04:48] for men, women
[1:04:49] and families who
[1:04:50] suffer from
[1:04:51] homelessness. Daily
[1:04:53] relocation of the shelter
[1:04:54] from church to church is
[1:04:55] logistically difficult
[1:04:56] for our members
[1:04:57] communities that
[1:04:58] use
[1:04:59] services that
[1:05:00] makes it difficult to search and
[1:05:01] volunteer support
[1:05:02] and demands more
[1:05:03] resources and
[1:05:04] materials in different
[1:05:05] places. Permanent
[1:05:08] location
[1:05:09] will provide greater
[1:05:10] stability
[1:05:10] volunteers and the best
[1:05:11] services for our
[1:05:12] residents who
[1:05:13] most in need
[1:05:14] this type of shelter.
[1:05:15] In our city
[1:05:16] observed
[1:05:17] increase in number
[1:05:18] families looking for
[1:05:19] shelter in the near future
[1:05:20] years, and we must
[1:05:21] to provide
[1:05:21] permanent option
[1:05:22] emergency shelter,
[1:05:23] who can
[1:05:24] expand, not
[1:05:25] the one who constantly
[1:05:26] tries
[1:05:26] to provide sufficient
[1:05:28] the number of churches that
[1:05:29] participate, and
[1:05:29] trying to find
[1:05:30] more resources and
[1:05:31] donations. None
[1:05:33] need to work
[1:05:34] more when
[1:05:34] available more
[1:05:35] permanent option. It
[1:05:37] better for ours
[1:05:37] residents,
[1:05:38] volunteers and communities
[1:05:39] in general. When
[1:05:40] services are available
[1:05:41] confused and
[1:05:42] inconsistent,
[1:05:43] more people
[1:05:43] find themselves on the street.
[1:05:45] We ask you
[1:05:45] approve the application
[1:05:46] interfaith
[1:05:47] public
[1:05:48] pillow on
[1:05:48] deviation from
[1:05:49] use for
[1:05:50] former church
[1:05:51] Sacred Heart. It
[1:05:52] second proof. Third
[1:05:55] proof, um, provided
[1:05:56] home team
[1:05:57] Leeport County or
[1:05:58] continuous
[1:05:59] care. Um, here's theirs.
[1:06:02] letter of support regarding
[1:06:03] deviation from
[1:06:04] using
[1:06:04] former church
[1:06:05] Sacred Heart.
[1:06:06] Delivery team
[1:06:07] services consists of
[1:06:08] 30 suppliers
[1:06:09] services, government officials,
[1:06:10] educators,
[1:06:11] representatives
[1:06:12] religious
[1:06:12] organizations and
[1:06:13] caring people who
[1:06:14] monthly
[1:06:15] meet for
[1:06:16] communication and
[1:06:16] cooperation on
[1:06:17] projects,
[1:06:18] aimed at
[1:06:19] plan advancement
[1:06:20] Leeport County regarding
[1:06:21] overcoming
[1:06:21] homelessness.
[1:06:22] Delivery team
[1:06:23] services recognizes
[1:06:24] effort
[1:06:25] interfaith
[1:06:25] public
[1:06:26] shelters,
[1:06:27] aimed at
[1:06:27] software
[1:06:28] emergency shelter
[1:06:29] for the most
[1:06:30] vulnerable citizens
[1:06:31] our community, and
[1:06:32] the greatest benefit
[1:06:33] from use
[1:06:34] church buildings
[1:06:35] Sacred Heart,
[1:06:35] helping them
[1:06:36] to do one's duty
[1:06:37] mission. Building
[1:06:38] serves spiritual and
[1:06:39] material
[1:06:40] community needs
[1:06:41] over a hundred years. This
[1:06:43] community during
[1:06:44] the last 18 years
[1:06:45] places
[1:06:45] interfaith
[1:06:46] public
[1:06:47] men's shelter.
[1:06:49] Various uses
[1:06:50] will not cause harm
[1:06:51] public
[1:06:52] health, safety,
[1:06:53] morality or general
[1:06:54] well-being and will
[1:06:55] useful for the community
[1:06:56] in all aspects.
[1:06:57] The need for constant
[1:06:58] shelter for
[1:06:59] homeless
[1:06:59] men and women
[1:07:00] has increased over the last 18
[1:07:01] years since
[1:07:02] establishment
[1:07:03] interfaith
[1:07:03] public
[1:07:04] men's shelter
[1:07:05] a group of locals
[1:07:06] churches under
[1:07:06] led by Dorothy
[1:07:07] Miller and Nancy
[1:07:08] Bracken. Primary
[1:07:09] shelter program,
[1:07:10] what was offered,
[1:07:11] was staffed
[1:07:12] volunteers and
[1:07:13] alternated with
[1:07:13] church basements-
[1:07:14] participants during
[1:07:15] cold months with
[1:07:16] October to April,
[1:07:17] but served
[1:07:18] only men. Interfaith
[1:07:19] serves as
[1:07:20] men, and
[1:07:22] women since their
[1:07:23] registration and
[1:07:24] obtaining 501c3 status
[1:07:26] The tax service in
[1:07:27] 2017. With each
[1:07:28] It gets harder every year.
[1:07:29] find enough
[1:07:30] number of volunteers
[1:07:31] for maintenance
[1:07:33] places of refuge and
[1:07:34] searching for churches that
[1:07:35] want and can
[1:07:35] participate. If in
[1:07:37] we will run out
[1:07:38] volunteers and churches-
[1:07:39] participants, then housing
[1:07:40] for the homeless now
[1:07:41] will be a problem for
[1:07:42] religious community
[1:07:43] Michigan City, and this
[1:07:44] will be a problem for
[1:07:45] city
[1:07:46] administration
[1:07:46] Michigan. Permanent
[1:07:47] place will mean
[1:07:48] less spending on
[1:07:49] supply, less
[1:07:50] food waste due to
[1:07:51] absence
[1:07:52] refrigeration
[1:07:52] equipment. It
[1:07:53] will mean easier
[1:07:54] communication with
[1:07:55] city ​​police and
[1:07:56] emergency service
[1:07:57] assistance,
[1:07:57] will need less
[1:07:58] staff and
[1:07:59] staff,
[1:07:59] will provide
[1:08:00] a stable base
[1:08:00] activities for
[1:08:01] men and women,
[1:08:02] who seek
[1:08:03] improve your life
[1:08:04] and move forward to
[1:08:05] permanent residence. It
[1:08:06] will mean that
[1:08:07] religious community
[1:08:08] will be able to continue
[1:08:09] serve our
[1:08:10] homeless population
[1:08:11] with the support of the city
[1:08:12] administration in
[1:08:13] the following years.
[1:08:14] The Holy Building
[1:08:14] Hearts will provide
[1:08:16] permanent place.
[1:08:16] Please approve.
[1:08:18] their application for
[1:08:19] deviation from
[1:08:19] using.
[1:08:21] Final letter from
[1:08:22] District Unity Fund
[1:08:23] Liport. This will be ours.
[1:08:24] Exhibit 4. Dear
[1:08:25] BZA members, please
[1:08:27] accept this letter
[1:08:28] support application for
[1:08:29] interfaith
[1:08:30] public pads
[1:08:31] to deviate from
[1:08:32] using
[1:08:33] real estate for
[1:08:33] address: Street A, 10001,
[1:08:35] formerly known as
[1:08:36] Church of the Sacred Heart.
[1:08:37] This building served
[1:08:38] spiritual
[1:08:38] material
[1:08:39] community needs
[1:08:40] over 100 years.
[1:08:41] Over the past 18
[1:08:42] years here
[1:08:43] was located
[1:08:43] interfaith
[1:08:44] public
[1:08:45] men's shelter,
[1:08:46] to ensure
[1:08:47] life and safety
[1:08:48] people until they
[1:08:49] will find housing.
[1:08:50] The need for constant
[1:08:51] shelter for
[1:08:52] homeless men
[1:08:53] and women have always been
[1:08:54] necessary.
[1:08:55] Interfaith
[1:08:56] public shelter
[1:08:57] was founded 18
[1:08:58] years ago by a group
[1:08:59] local churches under
[1:09:00] led by Dorothy
[1:09:02] Miller and Nancy Brack,
[1:09:03] and the initial grant
[1:09:04] from the Unity Fund and
[1:09:06] the pillow was
[1:09:06] provided by Franciscan Health. IN
[1:09:08] 2004 Unity Fund
[1:09:09] together with the mayor of the city
[1:09:10] Michigan Chuck
[1:09:11] Overberly, Council
[1:09:12] health care
[1:09:13] Dunan and United Way
[1:09:14] started discussing
[1:09:15] housing issues and
[1:09:16] homelessness.
[1:09:18] Known as home
[1:09:18] team, we are together
[1:09:19] studied and learned
[1:09:20] housing issues and
[1:09:21] homelessness, so that
[1:09:21] try to solve
[1:09:22] housing problems and
[1:09:23] homelessness
[1:09:24] the most effective and
[1:09:25] the smartest
[1:09:25] way. By
[1:09:26] Corporation support
[1:09:27] economic
[1:09:28] city ​​development
[1:09:29] Michigan, Mystetsky
[1:09:30] Uptown District and
[1:09:31] grant from the Foundation
[1:09:32] health care with
[1:09:33] Liport, we were looking for
[1:09:34] ways to improve
[1:09:35] our system
[1:09:36] emergency housing.
[1:09:39] One thing is clear:
[1:09:40] permanent place
[1:09:41] the location is
[1:09:42] critically important
[1:09:43] pillar of effective
[1:09:44] systems. Permanent
[1:09:54] location
[1:09:55] will provide
[1:09:56] a stable base
[1:09:57] activities for
[1:09:57] men and women,
[1:09:59] who need
[1:09:59] emergency housing, and
[1:10:00] will also help
[1:10:01] find a constant
[1:10:02] supportive housing. It
[1:10:03] will mean that
[1:10:04] religious community
[1:10:05] will be able to continue
[1:10:06] to serve our
[1:10:07] homeless. Good.
[1:10:50] Special, for
[1:10:51] except that there is
[1:10:52] deviation from
[1:10:53] special
[1:10:54] the use you make
[1:10:55] you ask. Or
[1:10:55] Do you think that this is not
[1:10:57] will threaten
[1:10:57] public safety
[1:10:58] health, morals,
[1:10:59] comfort and
[1:11:00] general welfare
[1:11:01] ?
[1:11:01] No.
[1:11:02] Good. And regarding the question
[1:11:04] public
[1:11:04] health, then during
[1:11:09] 17 years old, what, uh,
[1:11:10] are functioning
[1:11:11] interfaith
[1:11:12] public shelters,
[1:11:13] you follow
[1:11:15] programs for
[1:11:15] preservation and
[1:11:16] promoting cleanliness,
[1:11:17] including the following.
[1:11:19] Right. Each
[1:11:20] the place is being cleaned
[1:11:21] every evening.
[1:11:22] Right.
[1:11:22] There is a mandatory
[1:11:23] procedure, according to
[1:11:24] which guests should
[1:11:24] take a shower
[1:11:25] at least twice
[1:11:26] per week and
[1:11:26] follow
[1:11:27] personal hygiene, and
[1:11:27] also monitor that
[1:11:28] so that their clothes are
[1:11:29] washed. Actually,
[1:11:30] our guests must
[1:11:31] take a shower every day.
[1:11:32] They must walk.
[1:11:33] to Keys to Hope, where
[1:11:34] located
[1:11:35] public showers, and
[1:11:36] Director of Keys to Hope
[1:11:37] sends me every day
[1:11:38] or electronically
[1:11:39] by mail a list of those
[1:11:40] who actually performed
[1:11:42] requirements. We are definitely
[1:11:43] We know who does what.
[1:11:44] And if they are not in
[1:11:45] this list, they definitely won't come.
[1:11:49] And after the guest
[1:11:50] used the dryer
[1:11:51] , Keys to Hope checks
[1:11:52] lint filter.
[1:11:53] You know, I...can't.
[1:11:55] to say that
[1:11:55] is happening. I...Keys to
[1:11:57] Hope. I...I don't...We
[1:11:58] we work with them. I am not
[1:11:59] ...I'm not on theirs
[1:12:00] place...I...I'm too
[1:12:01] I know theirs well.
[1:12:02] protocol. Or
[1:12:03] it would be correct
[1:12:04] the statement that
[1:12:05] interfaith
[1:12:05] activity contributes
[1:12:06] lifestyle,
[1:12:07] including rest
[1:12:08] , correct
[1:12:08] food,
[1:12:09] maintaining cleanliness?
[1:12:10] Absolutely. Absolutely.
[1:12:14] Regarding safety,
[1:12:15] your activities
[1:12:16] religious community...
[1:12:17] Hmm, is that clear?
[1:12:18] installed
[1:12:19] behavior that
[1:12:20] prohibits the use
[1:12:21] alcohol and
[1:12:22] drugs?
[1:12:24] Of course.
[1:12:25] Is it threatening?
[1:12:26] aggressive behavior,
[1:12:27] directed against
[1:12:28] other guests?
[1:12:29] Absolutely.
[1:12:31] And what guests are present?
[1:12:33] at the establishment every night? Or
[1:12:34] they are watching over them
[1:12:35] volunteers or
[1:12:36] control them?
[1:12:37] We work all the time,
[1:12:39] while we're there. We work as volunteers.
[1:12:41] Hmm, even at night when
[1:12:42] Everyone is sleeping, nothing is happening.
[1:12:44] It
[1:12:45] the hardest change. We
[1:12:46] staffed
[1:12:47] staff.
[1:12:49] And is it provided?
[1:12:51] moral
[1:12:51] well-being through
[1:12:55] rules and procedures
[1:12:56] works that
[1:12:57] prohibit certain
[1:12:58] types of behavior and
[1:12:59] substances?
[1:13:00] Absolutely. Absolutely.
[1:13:02] So, they can't
[1:13:03] to carry
[1:13:03] smuggling. We have
[1:13:04] list of things that are
[1:13:05] smuggling. We search them, and, uh,
[1:13:07] if we believe that they
[1:13:09] we can't have this, we
[1:13:10] We're confiscating this. If
[1:13:11] this is something that, in our opinion, may constitute
[1:13:13] danger to our
[1:13:14] guests, we keep
[1:13:15] this is until next time
[1:13:16] in the morning and return them
[1:13:17] next day. We
[1:13:18] necessarily
[1:13:19] we provide
[1:13:20] safe place.
[1:13:21] And does it provide
[1:13:22] certain level
[1:13:23] your comfort
[1:13:24] guests, providing
[1:13:25] shelter above the roof and
[1:13:26] protection from rain,
[1:13:27] snow and bad weather
[1:13:28] during the next
[1:13:29] six months?
[1:13:30] Absolutely. You never
[1:13:31] didn't think 4 inches
[1:13:32] the substrates are as follows
[1:13:33] convenient. Hmm, what
[1:13:37] concerns
[1:13:37] general welfare
[1:13:39] , is food provided
[1:13:40] to your guests?
[1:13:41] So, we get
[1:13:42] donated meals.
[1:13:43] We manage the so-called
[1:13:44] heated kitchen.
[1:13:45] So the food is for us
[1:13:46] sacrifice. Perhaps,
[1:13:47] we will have to them
[1:13:48] to warm up, but,
[1:13:49] most likely, they
[1:13:50] are ready to serve.
[1:13:51] Hmm, our volunteers
[1:13:52] they know for sure, oh
[1:13:52] What time are we?
[1:13:53] serve our dinners.
[1:13:54] They bring them
[1:13:55] in time. We also
[1:13:56] we provide them
[1:13:57] breakfast. Sometimes
[1:13:58] a light breakfast,
[1:13:59] sometimes wonderful
[1:14:00] breakfast. Uh, yes.
[1:14:01] just like we usually do.
[1:14:05] you think that
[1:14:06] if provided
[1:14:07] special permit
[1:14:08] use, then
[1:14:09] the petition is not
[1:14:10] will hinder
[1:14:11] orderly
[1:14:12] development of neighboring
[1:14:13] objects?
[1:14:14] Definitely not.
[1:14:15] Again
[1:14:17] Well, we're already 17 years old.
[1:14:18] We work in that church.
[1:14:19] , and most people
[1:14:20] can tell you,
[1:14:21] that they probably
[1:14:22] didn't even know about
[1:14:24] our existence or
[1:14:25] saw very little
[1:14:26] activities, except
[1:14:27] morning traffic entrance and
[1:14:28] Entrance. Hmm, we definitely
[1:14:29] held on
[1:14:30] unnoticed. You are very
[1:14:32] well remembered. Which
[1:14:33] work schedule?
[1:14:34] We say from 7:00 pm
[1:14:36] until 7:00 am. Our
[1:14:38] volunteers are coming
[1:14:39] at 5:30 in the winter, so
[1:14:40] start cooking
[1:14:41] plot. It's hard to get through.
[1:14:43] past people when they
[1:14:44] standing at the door at
[1:14:45] 5:30 to go in. We can start
[1:14:47] let them in a little
[1:14:48] earlier, but we say
[1:14:49] from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. This can
[1:14:50] be from 6:00 to 7:00, but
[1:14:52] in general, from 7:00 to 7:00 is
[1:14:53] our work schedule,
[1:14:54] full all the time
[1:14:55] personnel. What
[1:14:57] concerns
[1:14:59] using
[1:15:00] safe, withdrawn
[1:15:01] from operation
[1:15:02] territory. There are proper
[1:15:03] utilities
[1:15:05] and access roads that
[1:15:06] leading from Ace Street
[1:15:08] Y, and drainage, that's all.
[1:15:09] Never on the territory
[1:15:10] there were no problems with
[1:15:11] drainage. We have
[1:15:12] many roads around
[1:15:13] of this building. On this
[1:15:14] plot 26
[1:15:15] parking spaces. THERE ARE
[1:15:16] the alley that surrounds it.
[1:15:18] Hmm, that's perfect. She
[1:15:20] really well-equipped
[1:15:20] for what we are looking for, and what are they
[1:15:22] offer.
[1:15:23] And most of your
[1:15:23] guests probably won't
[1:15:24] they go there by car
[1:15:25] .
[1:15:26] Most of them are not
[1:15:27] are traveling. Only a handful.
[1:15:28] And if this petition about
[1:15:30] the deviation will be
[1:15:31] satisfied, or
[1:15:34] you will have some
[1:15:35] support from
[1:15:36] communities regarding
[1:15:37] modernization,
[1:15:38] improvement
[1:15:39] plumbing and other
[1:15:40] infrastructure
[1:15:41] church?
[1:15:41] This is what we are already working on.
[1:15:43] we are working. We know,
[1:15:44] that we are in this
[1:15:45] The building is 17 years old.
[1:15:46] We know that
[1:15:47] need to be done with
[1:15:48] this building. We know what the city
[1:15:50] expects from us from
[1:15:50] this building, and we strive
[1:15:52] adhere to 100%.
[1:15:53] We want
[1:15:53] make sure that everyone
[1:15:55] satisfied with what we do, and we believe,
[1:15:57] that this is correct, and, uh
[1:15:58] , absolutely. So
[1:15:59] community of us
[1:16:00] will support. We
[1:16:01] are sure of this. Hmm,
[1:16:03] we are sure that
[1:16:05] construction
[1:16:05] fundamentally strong
[1:16:06] .
[1:16:07] Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
[1:16:09] In fact, we had
[1:16:10] engineer who does everything
[1:16:11] looked around, and, uh, he
[1:16:12] said everything was great,
[1:16:13] ready to work.
[1:16:14] It's amazing that they
[1:16:15] did 100 years ago.
[1:16:17] Do you also believe that on
[1:16:19] there will be no street
[1:16:19] traffic jams as a result
[1:16:21] ...
[1:16:21] Absolutely not.
[1:16:32] And you believe that if
[1:16:33] permission will be granted for
[1:16:35] special
[1:16:35] use, then it
[1:16:37] will meet the conditions
[1:16:38] , set out in
[1:16:39] provisions on
[1:16:40] city ​​zoning
[1:16:41] Michigan City?
[1:16:42] Absolutely. Because it is
[1:16:45] will be public
[1:16:46] center of institutional
[1:16:48] type.
[1:16:48] Of course. Yes, it is.
[1:16:50] right.
[1:16:58] And that's why you are here today.
[1:16:59] in the evening ask for
[1:17:02] special permit
[1:17:03] using. It
[1:17:04] right?
[1:17:05] That's right.
[1:17:06] And you have a presentation,
[1:17:07] which one would you like
[1:17:08] show, right?
[1:17:10] So instead of
[1:17:11] listen to me, everyone,
[1:17:11] nobody wants me
[1:17:12] listen. I ask
[1:17:13] volunteers a whole
[1:17:14] day. They want
[1:17:15] Listen to me. We have
[1:17:16] a short video when
[1:17:17] we show it
[1:17:18] churches, and we love
[1:17:19] show it for
[1:17:20] you to show who
[1:17:21] we, what we are and what we are engaged. So, this is
[1:17:23] three minutes of yours
[1:17:24] time, and
[1:17:25] then...Yes, in
[1:17:26] there is only one of us
[1:17:27] interrupt. Father
[1:17:28] Heavenly.
[1:17:41] Good evening, Father.
[1:17:42] Your name and address?
[1:17:44] Of course. My name is
[1:17:45] Father Kevin Huber. Uh-huh
[1:17:47] , 606 South Woodland-
[1:17:48] Avenue, Michigan City.
[1:17:51] Father Kevin, you
[1:17:52] church pastor
[1:17:53] Queen of All Saints.
[1:17:55] Right.
[1:17:55] And you
[1:17:57] appointed
[1:17:57] administrator
[1:17:58] Church of Saint Mary
[1:18:00] and the church of St.
[1:18:01] Hearts. Is that correct?
[1:18:02] Right.
[1:18:03] And you are here today as
[1:18:04] official
[1:18:05] representative of Dasis
[1:18:06] Gary. Is that correct?
[1:18:08] Right.
[1:18:09] And Dacis Gary's position
[1:18:11] is that
[1:18:12] they will agree
[1:18:13] to hand over the building
[1:18:14] Sacred Heart Church
[1:18:15] interfaith
[1:18:16] community, provided that
[1:18:17] what this advice will provide
[1:18:18] special
[1:18:19] using.
[1:18:21] As far as I understand.
[1:18:22] Yes. We still can
[1:18:42] see.
[1:18:43] You must have
[1:18:43] the opportunity to see. You
[1:18:45] must have
[1:18:45] the opportunity to see.
[1:18:46] Yes, we can. AT,
[1:18:59] Nancy Bracken and
[1:19:00] Dorothy Miller. They
[1:19:01] saw people who
[1:19:02] live on the streets.
[1:19:03] They thought, "We
[1:19:04] should do something about this
[1:19:05] make". So they
[1:19:06] created
[1:19:06] Interfaith
[1:19:07] shelter for
[1:19:08] men who
[1:19:09] actually there is
[1:19:09] PADS program, which
[1:19:10] every night takes turns in
[1:19:11] various basements
[1:19:12] churches.
[1:19:12] We will offer
[1:19:14] eat food twice. We will offer them
[1:19:15] dinner and a small
[1:19:16] breakfast.
[1:19:17] People become
[1:19:17] homeless, and they
[1:19:18] come out of this
[1:19:19] situations. And this
[1:19:20] applies not only to
[1:19:21] people with mental
[1:19:22] disorders or
[1:19:22] dependencies. It
[1:19:23] people they are
[1:19:24] pay alimony.
[1:19:26] They lose.
[1:19:27] work. They don't have
[1:19:28] no income. Some
[1:19:32] had a bad time
[1:19:33] paid work,
[1:19:34] which did not allow them
[1:19:35] to have a little one
[1:19:36] apartment or
[1:19:37] apartment in the area.
[1:19:40] I met with
[1:19:41] Interfaith two years ago. THERE ARE
[1:19:43] -uh, I worked at
[1:19:44] retail trade.
[1:19:45] They received a letter.
[1:19:46] from the corporation, in
[1:19:47] who was informed,
[1:19:48] what will they have to do
[1:19:49] to release a lot
[1:19:50] employees, and, on
[1:19:51] Sorry, I wasn't there.
[1:19:52] so long. So I was
[1:19:54] at the lowest level.
[1:19:56] We are actually
[1:19:57] filling the void
[1:19:58] , which is needed in
[1:19:59] community. Uh, no.
[1:20:00] emergency shelter
[1:20:01] for men, and
[1:20:03] also for women.
[1:20:05] To advance
[1:20:06] forward in life,
[1:20:07] you need to have a base
[1:20:08] activities, and people,
[1:20:09] who live on the streets,
[1:20:10] can't do anything
[1:20:11] make. And that's why
[1:20:14] it is important to have
[1:20:15] shelter.
[1:20:15] I knew that mine
[1:20:16] the situation will be
[1:20:17] temporary. It's simple.
[1:20:19] a temporary thing. You know
[1:20:20] , I know I can't
[1:20:21] let me do this
[1:20:22] upset.
[1:20:23] They feel that
[1:20:24] can come and
[1:20:25] to talk to someone,
[1:20:26] to open up to someone, and
[1:20:27] this person can eat
[1:20:28] help.
[1:20:30] While I was a participant
[1:20:31] programs moved
[1:20:33] persons, uh, Army
[1:20:34] Salvation for that time
[1:20:35] lost several
[1:20:36] their employees
[1:20:37] who worked in
[1:20:38] night shelter.
[1:20:42] They came to me.
[1:20:43] and asked whether
[1:20:44] I am against working for
[1:20:45] them. I tell everyone: no
[1:20:48] Be afraid to take it.
[1:20:49] If you feel
[1:20:51] need to contact
[1:20:53] to interfaith
[1:20:54] community, please
[1:20:55] , please contact me, because this
[1:20:56] will be, um, one of
[1:20:57] the best steps that
[1:20:58] you can do.
[1:20:59] Constant struggle—
[1:21:00] it is a struggle to
[1:21:01] find volunteers,
[1:21:02] who are ready
[1:21:02] dedicate a few
[1:21:03] hours per week. AND
[1:21:04] actually volunteers
[1:21:05] get from this
[1:21:06] much more than
[1:21:07] they suspected,
[1:21:08] when they started, so
[1:21:09] that there are men who
[1:21:10] rely on you,
[1:21:12] and now it's up to you
[1:21:12] will rely
[1:21:13] men and women.
[1:21:14] If I had to do it again, I would
[1:21:16] did it without hesitation.
[1:21:18] I had so much fun.
[1:21:19] I am so much
[1:21:20] learned. This is for
[1:21:23] everyone. If you can
[1:21:25] become a volunteer
[1:21:27] just one evening at
[1:21:28] month, it's worth it.
[1:21:29] It's about
[1:21:30] give honor,
[1:21:31] you know, and that's why I think that everyone
[1:21:33] should become
[1:21:34] volunteer. Don't do it.
[1:21:35] this and sacrifice.
[1:21:36] If you can
[1:21:37] sacrifice,
[1:21:38] donate.
[1:21:38] They can
[1:21:39] donate to us
[1:21:40] goods. We have
[1:21:40] huge list
[1:21:41] necessary things that
[1:21:42] we usually buy,
[1:21:43] that is, things that you, can probably find
[1:21:45] in my pantry at home.
[1:21:46] They can
[1:21:46] donate to us
[1:21:47] funds. Of course,
[1:21:48] public program
[1:21:50] gaskets now
[1:21:51] developed, and
[1:21:51] Harrison is great.
[1:21:52] works because it
[1:21:53] leads us to
[1:21:54] 501c3 position as
[1:21:55] corporation so that we
[1:21:56] could accept
[1:21:57] more donations. I see the difference in
[1:21:59] community. I feel
[1:22:01] what's happening
[1:22:02] difference, and I feel it,
[1:22:04] that in time she will be
[1:22:05] even bigger. In the community
[1:22:08] there will always be a need for
[1:22:09] emergency shelter.
[1:22:11] Uh, regardless of
[1:22:12] whether it's 30 people on
[1:22:13] night, or four people
[1:22:14] for the night, we would like
[1:22:15] to have permanent places
[1:22:16] for men and for
[1:22:18] women. Move
[1:22:19] him in some way
[1:22:19] temporary housing or
[1:22:20] something like that, but you know,
[1:22:22] we are going
[1:22:22] to hang a curtain from a horse
[1:22:24] here. Now we have
[1:22:25] simply extraordinary
[1:22:26] situation.