[0:39] [clears throat]
[0:41] All right. The September 8th uh Mbury
Town Council meeting will be called to
[0:45] order. Please rise for the pledge of
>> allegiance.
[0:48] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:53] republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:00] justice for all.
[1:05] » Sorry.
[1:08] » Kent Kaufman
>> here.
[1:09] » Mike Holloway
>> here.
[1:10] » Gary K
>> here.
[1:12] » Carl Miller
>> here.
[1:13] » And Kevin Miller
>> here.
[1:15] » All right. the we have the minutes for
the August 17th and August 24th
[1:19] meetings.
>> I'll make a motion that we accept the
[1:22] minutes of the August 17th and the
August 24th, 2026 meetings uh minutes as
[1:27] presented.
>> Second.
[1:28] » I have a motion and a second. Any
comments or questions?
[1:32] All in favor?
>> I I
[1:35] » All right. This time we'll open the
floor for public comments.
[1:44] Mary Ktown of Mbury. Um I just wanted to
um thank the city of Gan and also to
[1:51] thank Niblock um excavating last week.
Um Selge construction hit the live force
[1:58] man. Um we didn't know the the locations
of these two force mains that go down
[2:04] Orpha Drive. The asbuilts were not
necessarily correct. Um there was a lot
[2:10] of they're deep and were even deeper
with the gravity. Um but Gan jumped into
[2:18] play. We had an extra vector truck
because we needed to in order to keep up
[2:23] with Spring Valley since school was in
session.
[2:26] Um and then we needed an ex a piece of
HCP pipe. Um we didn't have any on our
[2:32] yard. Selge didn't have any because
they're using PVC and um so Niblock
[2:40] Adam Clark with Niblock jumped in and
brought us over a piece of pipe. So and
[2:44] then Robert's guys um Robert
brought out two couplers. Um it it was a
[2:52] mess. Um Selj's guys did a great job
getting it put back together, but it was
[2:58] a really stinky, ugly mess. [laughter]
So anyway, and our wastewater guys were
[3:03] on it with getting the pump shut down at
the Spring Valley lift station to stop
[3:08] the flow. So anyway, I just wanted to
say thank you and they did a great job.
[3:13] » How deep was that?
>> The force man is um about 9 to 10 ft.
[3:20] » Wow.
>> And then we're um
[3:22] » all that water in there.
>> Well, and we're at that location, we
[3:26] were Selj was about 22 or 23 feet deep.
Holy cow.
[3:30] » Um, so they were trying to like they're
they're three trench boxes deep and then
[3:35] they also have sheeting. Um, so anyway,
it it's some pretty tough construction.
[3:42] Um, yeah, just
it's tough.
[3:48] » It worked out.
>> It did work out.
[3:50] » The guy down in the hole.
>> The guy The guy down in the hole. Yeah,
[3:54] he with that saw and cutting through
that force mane pipe with it being full
[4:00] of stuff. Yeah, it was it was ugly.
>> The fine stuff. [laughter]
[4:05] » Yeah. So, anyway, not
>> Thank you, Mary.
[4:11] » Thank you, Mary. Uh, I do have a
comment. Um, I'll do that from over here
[4:16] if nobody minds. Carl Millard, um, I'm a
Middlebury resident. Very proud. I'm I'm
[4:23] proud of the community, the way they all
came together. Um local businesses and
[4:30] volunteers. Uh if you've not been out to
the memorial wall, that is a thing of
[4:37] beauty and [snorts] it is a sight to
behold. It's it truly is a work of art
[4:42] and it's it's quite a tribute to those
who have served.
[4:45] » Um thank you, Robert, for bringing the
idea in
[4:49] » and bringing that to life.
>> Thank you. And uh I I know I'm going to
[4:53] miss somebody. I know Dodie was involved
with the committee and Mary and Mike and
[5:00] Kevin and
>> Jesse kept us all alive.
[5:02] » Yes.
It's it's an amazing project and it
[5:06] really is beautiful. I just wanted to
make sure everybody knows that.
[5:09] » Yeah. Jesse is so extremely organized.
It's not even funny.
[5:14] » Yeah. And and if I can add to that, so
uh Friday, September the 11th at 6 p.m.
[5:21] is the dedication ceremony and so pass
that word around. I know it's the fall
[5:26] festival going on, but [snorts]
>> coming night too
[5:30] » home, of course. Uh but it's at 6:00. Um
so, um it would be great to see a large
[5:37] turnout for that. U
went into it. a lot of volunteers,
[5:42] [snorts] a lot of companies donating
time, materials. Um, we had we had
[5:50] companies donating material. We had
companies donating time on stuff that's
[5:54] not their material.
>> Like, right, come we had Well, we'll
[5:58] come do that.
So, it's just it's been a great um
[6:05] uh it's been a great thing to see the
community rally behind it. And it is
[6:09] truly an honor to the veterans that are
buried in that cemetery and will be. I
[6:17] was taking my grandsons by and um we
drove by and one of the young ones said
[6:23] in the back said, "Paby, are you on that
wall?" I said, "Not till I'm dead."
[6:27] [laughter]
[6:30] But it is it's it's it's it was great.
It's really great.
[6:34] » It is beautiful.
[6:38] All right. [snorts] Uh, moving on to
expense vouchers.
[6:41] » I'll make a motion that we approve for
dispersement the expense vouchers as
[6:45] presented.
>> Second.
[6:47] » I have a motion in a second. Any
comments or questions?
[6:51] » All in favor?
>> I
[6:53] » I
>> I.
[6:55] Uh, no unfinished business today.
Uh, request for payment to FCI
[7:01] Construction for pay application number
13.
[7:05] So pay application number 13 from FCI
Construction is in the amount of
[7:10] $54,47049
[7:13] um for the water treatment plant
improvements and it's the work that's
[7:17] been done between August 1st and August
31st. So we're asking for council's
[7:23] review and consideration for approval so
that way the clerk can send it to um
[7:29] Indiana Finance Authority for payment.
We'll make a motion that we approve pay
[7:34] application number 13 from FCI
Construction in the amount of 54,47049
[7:41] cent for the water treatment plant
improvements. This is for work done
[7:45] August the 1st, 2026 through August
31st, 2026.
[7:50] » I'll [snorts] second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[7:53] comments or questions? All in favor?
>> I I
[7:58] » All right. Request for payment to
Niblock Excavating. Pay application
[8:02] number one for Highland Hills Valving
for upper pressure zone.
[8:06] » Yeah. So, this pay application number
one from Niblock is in the amount of
[8:10] $29,940
[8:13] and it is for that valving that we need
to um replace up there in Highland Hills
[8:18] in for the upper pressure zone. Um there
is actually no work. This is for
[8:23] materials that are stored on site. And
so, um, I think that their work will
[8:29] either be this fall or early next
spring. Um,
[8:33] » and this is part of contract C, right?
>> Right.
[8:35] » Yeah.
>> Yep.
[8:38] » So, it's the same thing. It um has to be
approved before it can be submitted to
[8:44] um IFA.
>> I will make a motion that we approve pay
[8:48] application number one from Niblock
Excavating, the amount of $29,940.28
[8:53] 28 cent for the Highland Hills valving
for upper pressure zone. This is for
[8:59] work done through a or done August 4th
for materials to be stored on hand.
[9:04] » I'll second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Any comments
[9:08] or questions? All in favor?
>> I I
[9:12] » I.
>> All right. County Road 20, utility
[9:16] extensions to MSSE closeout.
So, as requested, we're just bringing
[9:21] this forward so that way you can see
where we ended up from the original
[9:25] contract to the um actual cost of what
it the project cost was. So, the
[9:32] original bid was $35,985.
[9:36] we're um we were able to shorten up some
of the water main run um because we
[9:41] didn't want to have a long dead end to
just dead end um and the water not get
[9:46] used in that section of pipe. Um and
then we were also I think we modified a
[9:51] little bit of the sanitary sewer. So it
reduced the cost down to $237,605.
[9:59] So the difference in that is the
$68,924.95.
[10:05] So, and the rest of it is um a summary
of because that was an interlocal
[10:10] agreement with Oakart County. They um
then gave like deposited the money. Then
[10:16] what we do is we make sure that we
verify with Elcart County Redevelopment
[10:20] Commission um that all of our numbers
are correct. We give them all the
[10:24] invoices, everything. And then once they
verify and they say that we agree with
[10:29] you, then we'll cut a check back to them
um for the difference. So, just so you
[10:35] know how that all works.
>> Okay, this I like this part. This is the
[10:40] first one I've seen actually under.
>> This is the second one under.
[10:44] » It was the first one I've seen like
that. Oh,
[10:46] » that I that I remember.
>> There should be cake or something.
[10:50] » We have cheesecake in the first.
[laughter]
[10:52] » Yeah. Okay.
[snorts]
[10:56] » I like that. That's good news.
Um, do we need to uh
[11:01] » It's just a This is really just for
information because you know so many
[11:06] times um you guys only see change order
after change order or different things
[11:10] like that and so
>> well thanks for bringing this highlight
[11:13] to us.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
[11:15] » Well, I think we mentioned that at some
point. It'd be nice to know once they're
[11:17] wrapped up project is complete.
>> Yeah. Tada. There it is.
[11:21] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. The last one I think was the
[11:25] community crossings, the paving package
that we did. It came in under two.
[11:30] » All [snorts] right. Well,
uh, small purchase for maintenance on
[11:35] well number eight.
>> So, um,
[11:39] yeah, this is small purchase. Um
[11:46] they had their original small purchase
for well number eight was in the amount
[11:50] of with parentless Midwest was in the
amount of $24,740
[11:55] and the quote for
um well number eight soft starter was in
[12:00] the amount of $10,990.
Um
[12:04] so this that would be an additional on
to what the original was. Um because it
[12:10] was after they had pulled and done the
initial service for the pumping
[12:15] equipment, it's discovered that the soft
start um which is like some controls was
[12:22] needed. Um and Steve's here if if you
have any specific questions. Um so this
[12:29] is asking for consideration to approve
the $10,990
[12:35] for the additional work that's needed.
I know they told us up front that
[12:40] there'd probably be more coming down.
I'll make a motion that we just add on
[12:45] the $10,990
to the small purchase plan for the well.
[12:50] » I'll second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[12:53] comments or questions?
All in favor?
[12:56] » I I
>> All right. Uh small purchase for
[13:02] cemetery paving invoice.
>> Okay. So, um we brought the cemetery
[13:07] paving um for the cemeter for the road
repairs on that um north south road on
[13:15] the east side of the cemetery. The
surface material was 27,488.
[13:22] I'm sorry that's wrong.
[snorts]
[13:28] Was $28,168.
Um and then but prior to that we had had
[13:34] some patching done because it was like a
roller coaster. So that patching amount
[13:39] is was not included in that total. So
we're asking for consideration of
[13:44] proving $4,320. [clears throat]
Um and below there's a breakdown of the
[13:52] the various funds that it's coming out
of. So the the east west road at the
[13:58] very north end would be coming out of
the veterans memorial wall because that
[14:02] was part of the project. Um and then
this would just be that north south so
[14:08] surface and the asphalt base um to patch
so we could get it so it wasn't a roller
[14:14] coaster.
>> So the approval request is for the 4320.
[14:19] » Correct. Yep. Now, I'll make a motion
that we approve the additional amount of
[14:23] $4,320
uh paid using the cemetery road repairs.
[14:28] » I'll second.
>> Have a motion and a second. Any comments
[14:31] or questions? All in favor?
>> I
[14:34] » I
>> All right. Uh small purchase for easy
[14:38] valve and tap and sleeve.
>> Do you want me to continue?
[14:43] » You're on a roll.
So, this is for the purchase and
[14:47] installation of a 10-in easy valve at
9:15 South Main Street. Um,
[14:55] we did the
install a
[14:59] It was a tap on a 10 a 10 x 10 tap,
right?
[15:03] » Well, you still val
there's two different things. You're
[15:08] right.
[15:14] Okay,
we should have broken this down probably
[15:17] into two different sites. I apologize.
Um, so
[15:23] yeah, we we were working down with um,
Jacob
[15:27] and they needed to have a um, we needed
to have an easy valve installed so that
[15:32] way then they could tap, right? They
didn't tap. I'm getting stuff confused
[15:38] right now. The valve was broke fire
valve going into Jgo. So we had to have
[15:42] an isolation point because all the other
valves south there were broke.
[15:47] » That's correct.
[15:52] » Water.
>> So in order Yeah. In order for Jacob to
[15:57] do what they needed to do, we needed to
install an easy valve because the other
[16:02] valves that are down there were
installed by another company
[16:06] and they do not work. Um, we can't we
can't get even close to 95% shutdown in
[16:16] order to like
do what we need to do. So that that was
[16:21] that part.
>> Sorry, Mary, if I can. So, the correct
[16:25] me if I'm wrong, the easy valve is in
the amount of $15,550.
[16:31] » Um, I think it's also So, the easy valve
was $10,65.
[16:37] » Okay.
>> So, the labor was the five
[16:39] » labor was
>> and then labor. Yep.
[16:41] » Okay.
>> This one.
[16:44] » It's Yeah, this one and the one breaks
down the valve the valve price and then
[16:48] the labor price.
>> Okay. Thank Thank you.
[16:53] So, and then that so we had to have two
taps at the water tower site. One was a
[17:00] 10-in tap at the booster station and one
was an 8 in tap
[17:06] um
because there's two separate lines that
[17:10] we needed to connect up to. So those
were one the 10 in was 1,600 and the 8
[17:19] in was 1360
>> or a total of 15550.
[17:25] » Yes.
>> Okay. Thank thank you.
[17:26] » There's just been a lot going on here
lately
[17:29] » with the labor.
>> Yep.
[17:36] Uh, I'll make a motion that we approve
the small purchase for the easy valve
[17:40] and the tap and the sleeve
uh to be in the amount of $15,550
[17:50] um, forgive me. Payable to who?
>> Uh, EJ Prescott. Thank Thank you.
[17:57] » I'll second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[18:00] comments or questions?
All in favor? I
[18:04] » I I
>> All right. Agreement with Aban Marsh for
[18:09] river riverbend pedestrian bridge
replacement.
[18:14] » So um attached is a an agreement with
Aban Marsh for professional design
[18:20] services for the pedestrian bridge um
replacement. Um if you've been out
[18:26] there, the bridge is um not in the best
of shape
[18:31] and so and it's over the little Okart
River, which is how we connect the
[18:34] downtown area um over to Riverbend Park.
So, um,
[18:44] Aban Marsh had it broke down, um, the
different services there, survey,
[18:48] design,
um, bank stabilization,
[18:52] um, permitting,
bid documents. So, it all totals
[18:56] $40,000.
Um, but there is alternate tasks because
[19:00] we're not 100% sure if we're going to
need some of these other items. Um a lot
[19:06] of it's dependent upon the the uh
permitting agency's IDM you know once
[19:14] they get it into their review.
So if we need those alternate tasks then
[19:19] the total would be 55,800.
Um so parks um has submitted a grant
[19:26] application and they've also worked with
friends of the Middlebury parks. Um each
[19:31] of those agencies um have agreed to gift
$5,000 towards the design of this. Um
[19:39] parks budget has $22,000 to put around
22,000 to put towards it. So then we
[19:45] would need additional funds from CEDIT
or CCD in the amount of $23,800
[19:52] but that that includes the alternate um
amount of 15,800.
[20:00] So, um, we're asking for your review and
consideration. Um,
[20:06] you know, even if this doesn't move
forward immediately because we're going
[20:10] to have to find the funds for
construction next, that's going to be
[20:14] the next hoop that we'll have to jump
through, but the design will be solid.
[20:18] It can sit, you know, for a year or two
if we need to. Um,
[20:24] but that's the first step in order to
make this project happen.
[20:28] So,
[20:32] » so, so we're looking for approval to
spend for the um engineering and design.
[20:39] » Yes.
>> Yes.
[20:40] » Okay. This would be
towards a new bridge.
[20:46] » Towards a new bridge. Yeah. The other
one is leaning so bad and the railroad
[20:49] ties have shifted even more. Um Tom's
got it roped off. Um trying
[20:56] [clears throat] to keep people off from
it. That's
[20:59] can be a chore in itself.
>> There's no way to salvage what's
[21:03] currently out there for safety purposes,
>> right?
[21:08] We've had a couple engineering companies
out there
[21:12] contract.
[21:26] So, we just be throwing good money after
bad.
[21:28] » Yeah. So, for those
>> band-aid
[21:30] » Yeah. For those online.
>> Yeah.
[21:32] » For those online, just to summarize what
um Tom and Wright with our parks
[21:37] department just said, they've had
engineers out there. They've had
[21:40] contractors out there to look at it. Um
and just the way that the bridge has
[21:45] shifted even more um over the summer. Um
it just ha it'll have to be removed and
[21:52] replaced um with a more secure
structure.
[21:56] How old is that bridge? The old one?
Nobody knows?
[21:59] » I have no clue. Do you have any idea how
old it is?
[22:03] » Yeah, it's been there for a while.
[22:14] » So, the amount we're looking for is the
amount with the contingencies. Is that
[22:18] correct?
>> Yeah, that's the 238.
[22:22] The
>> 55858.
[22:23] Yeah.
Oh yeah. Um but the additional funds
[22:27] from town funds
>> Oh, would be the 238.
[22:31] » 238.
>> Yeah,
[22:33] » got it.
[22:38] Um
[22:42] and then um
>> and I mean if this is something that the
[22:45] board wants to think about and you know
discuss I mean we can
[22:50] I I don't think that it's it's not like
it's going to get built this year.
[22:54] » You're right. [laughter]
>> So right
[22:56] » I mean if it's perfectly fine to hold on
>> what's the possibility if we delay on
[23:02] this that the costs are going to go up?
Um, I would say if you delayed like, you
[23:06] know, two weeks or a month or whatever,
that's one thing. But if you're going to
[23:11] delay longer,
>> six months or something like that, it
[23:14] could go up
>> until next year. um are are um because
[23:18] of the style of bridge uh where it is
those kinds of things are tiff funds
[23:24] available to assist
[23:30] its infrastructure.
Is that something that we can at least
[23:35] [laughter]
take to the RDC to see if it's
[23:38] » even permissible from for tiff? I think
that we would need an attorney's
[23:44] position on that.
>> I'm not sure exactly where it's located.
[23:48] Is it in
>> It's in Riverbend Park just south of
[23:50] East Warren Street. So, um
>> right next to the road.
[23:54] » It's more so in it. It could be um
contributing to the downtown tiff, but
[24:02] it's more so in the Mbury East TIFF,
which is a county tiff.
[24:12] Is that at the end of Lawrence? Is that
where it's at?
[24:16] » Yes.
>> Yeah.
[24:18] » Yeah. Right here. Well, just a little
bit.
[24:25] » Make the picture go up.
>> Make the picture
[24:27] » go up. [laughter]
>> Okay. Then Lawrence Street. Oops. Now
[24:30] it's too small. I can't even There we
go. It's right in here. Right there it
[24:34] is.
>> Comes back and then here's the river.
[24:37] So, it's right back in here. M
>> there's a pathway that anybody from this
[24:41] town can ride their bikes or walk over
it to get into the park without going
[24:45] » and we can discuss it further Jackson so
that way because
[24:50] it might be stretching it.
>> Yeah. But the question is it's a little
[24:54] far down.
>> Okay.
[24:59] » In her ask didn't cause us a thing.
That's the question.
[25:02] » Okay.
>> Right.
[25:07] Well, you knowing that we're going to do
this uh and not knowing what all the
[25:11] contingencies would be. I mean, I think
right now it makes sense to approve that
[25:15] greater amount and see once the project
is ready to go. I mean, we've at least
[25:23] set it aside. Um,
I mean I So I'm going to make a motion
[25:29] that we approve the $23,800
toward the Abon Marsh Engineering for uh
[25:36] the Riverbend Pedestrian Bridge over the
Little Oakart River.
[25:40] » I'll second.
>> I have a motion and a second. Any
[25:43] comments or questions?
All in favor? I I
[25:48] » Then I think what we'll need is um an
approval of the agreement itself.
[25:55] the agreement. Oh,
>> okay. Marsh. Okay.
[25:57] » Because it'll be an agreement between
the town and Aan Marsh.
[26:01] » Yeah.
>> Well, then I will make an a motion that
[26:04] we uh approve the agreement with Avon
Marsh for consulting and engineering for
[26:10] the pedestrian bridge at the Little
Elcart River at Riverbend.
[26:15] » I'll go ahead Ken.
>> Got it.
[26:18] » I'll second.
>> I have a motion in two seconds. Any
[26:21] comments, [laughter] questions?
All in
[26:24] » favor? I
>> I
[26:25] » I
>> All right. Uh 2027 town council meeting
[26:32] schedule.
>> Looks fine to me.
[26:37] » I'll make a motion that we approve the
2027 town council meeting schedule as
[26:42] presented.
>> Second.
[26:44] » Have a motion and a second. Any comments
or questions?
[26:47] All in favor? I
>> I
[26:51] » All right. Uh while we're on that kind
of loop here, how about the 2027 paid
[26:56] holiday schedule?
>> I'll make a motion that we approve the
[26:59] 2027 holiday schedule. Uh paid holiday
schedule as presented.
[27:05] » Second.
Go ahead. No. [laughter]
[27:08] » I have a motion and a second. Any
comments or questions? All in favor? I
[27:14] » I
>> All right.
[27:18] Jaylee um you have some deep thinking
for us to go into here
[27:22] » before we do budget. Um Jackson, did you
bring the salary amendment? Can we do a
[27:28] salary amendment from the hiring of
Dustin Dilks at the last council
[27:32] meeting?
>> Um
[27:33] » Oh, that's right.
>> So I for kind of spaced it and then
[27:38] after the fact I was like, "Oh yeah, we
needed that on the agenda."
[27:43] So, uh, what we'd be looking at is
ordinance 724-f
[27:48] amending the salary ordinance to,
>> um, [clears throat] set the labor 3B,
[27:56] » okay,
>> which was previously vacant
[27:58] » and um notating that's no longer vacant
and will be paid at a rate of $25 an
[28:03] hour.
>> No other changes. Effective September
[28:07] 8th.
That was 724F as in Frank.
[28:13] » Yes.
>> I'll make a motion to approve
[28:18] ordinance 724F as presented by Jackson.
>> Second.
[28:24] » I have a motion and a second. Any
comments or questions? All in favor?
[28:29] » I I
>> Okay. Now, budget. Um,
[28:35] » do we have to
>> I
[28:38] have not gotten a lot of input this year
on budget um from pretty much everybody.
[28:46] So, I am slowly working on budget, but
I'm kind of just
[28:54] shooting in the dark right now. So, if
there's anything in particular that you
[29:00] want to see, please let me know so that
I can get that done. Um, salaries, I'm
[29:06] kind of doing a 3%
uh across the board.
[29:11] » Those will be based on reviews this
year.
[29:14] » I have those reviews if I don't I don't
I don't know if you've seen any of them
[29:20] or not.
>> Haven't yet. So,
[29:24] um,
>> Robert and I have been, as far as the
[29:27] public works, Robert and I have been in
discussions already on the budget. So,
[29:30] we'll be meeting here in the next couple
weeks to to go over that.
[29:35] » Okay.
>> We've got some preliminary numbers in.
[29:37] » Same with me and the marshall. We've
been in discussion.
[29:41] » Okay. So,
>> Derek or Steve, if you need anything,
[29:45] let me know and I'll come down. We'll
talk about it. So, just let me know if
[29:48] you got something in mind and I'll glad
to come to you guys.
[29:53] » I'm kind of just comparing things with
capital plan to figure out where to put
[29:58] some money aside for different projects.
I know obviously like the pedestrian
[30:03] bridge is something that we'll need to
talk about. I don't know if that's going
[30:06] to be next year either. Um or maybe it's
worth having the money there in case we
[30:12] can encumber it at the end of the year
possibly. I'm not sure. I don't know
[30:16] what other bigger items you might have
coming up. Um, so that's just kind of
[30:23] where I'm at. Um, but just know we need
to have that adopted, fully adopted by
[30:29] the end of October, no later. So my my
goal is that second October meeting,
[30:35] which means that that that first October
meeting, we have to have our public
[30:40] hearing.
>> Yeah. So, which means I also have to
[30:44] advertise it two weeks before that. So,
we're getting down to crunch time.
[30:49] » Are you saying you need to know like
within a week?
[30:52] » Preferably
>> each of us. [laughter]
[30:55] » Um or at least maybe by the next council
meeting and then I can kind of give you
[31:01] guys numbers of how it's going and how
it's looking. Um,
[31:07] yeah. I'm just I'm again I'm kind of
looking at last year's budget, this
[31:12] year's budget. Um, looking at those
numbers, kind of seeing how much money
[31:16] we might have to play with. Um, because
again,
[31:21] » I'm sure [clears throat] that bridge, if
that's the design cost, [laughter]
[31:24] » we still don't really know what
>> what's coming down the line with sea one
[31:29] and lit and all of that good stuff. um
the like that the county has we we did
[31:36] our must meeting
um we we have a plan in place. It's as
[31:43] far as I know has not been accepted yet
by the state. I don't know if it will
[31:46] get accepted. I don't know if it doesn't
get accepted, if we'll still play by
[31:50] what we wanted um or if we're going to
have to put our little bucket out for
[31:55] the county to go beg for some of that
share.
[32:02] um you have comment Mary
[snorts]
[32:07] » and one thing I guess to keep in mind is
we've talked about um getting an
[32:12] inspector
you know if we would get an inspector on
[32:17] full-time here um instead of like having
all these different contracts
[32:23] um plus there's a vested interest if we
do have somebody in house um so anyway
[32:29] an inspector obviously would need a
vehicle. Um, so there's more expense
[32:35] than just,
you know, hiring an inspector. And,
[32:40] » you know, that some of it can come from
water, some from sewer possibly. And
[32:44] then, you know, if we do it a third, a
third, a third, some of that would need
[32:48] to come out of tax revenue.
>> Um, there's a lot of projects coming,
[32:54] » but that could save us a lot of money in
the long run.
[32:57] » Yeah. Um, we'll still need the engineers
to like help with review of shop
[33:01] drawings and make sure that everything
that they're supplying is correct, but
[33:06] um, I think it could be beneficial.
>> Well, are you talking full-time then or
[33:11] part time?
>> Full time.
[33:13] » There that there's that much that we can
keep somebody busy full-time,
[33:17] » I believe. So, at least for
>> at least the next five or six years.
[33:21] » At least for the next
>> I'm not doubting. I'm just, you know,
[33:24] sometimes it just blows my mind.
>> So, yeah. So when they do like even when
[33:29] INDOT does um state road 13 in 2030 and
2031 and possibly going into 2032
[33:38] um we have water and sanitary sewer and
it's just all going to be part of the
[33:43] project. Well the INDOT inspectors I'm
I'm not saying anything against them but
[33:50] they don't they don't run into that a
lot. that's not in their their
[33:54] wheelhouse of knowing what needs to be
done 100%. So, it's it's part of the
[34:01] bid, but
>> um it's just better if we have somebody
[34:04] there watching um and making sure that
they're
[34:07] » it's not going to make a conflict with
their within DOT's people. Good.
[34:11] » No, no, they
>> Well, because the contractor does it
[34:14] now. So, like so the contractor provides
it and not cheaply. they've partnered
[34:20] with, you know, like a lot of
communities partner with INDOT and have
[34:24] inspectors there. Um, they just work
together
[34:28] um [clears throat]
because, you know, you respect INDOT for
[34:32] what they have. They they've got the
knowledge there with building roadways
[34:36] and [clears throat]
>> stuff. So,
[34:39] » and like that on on top of that too, you
know, GIS is having issues with their or
[34:45] GIS our locators [laughter]
are having issues with one of their
[34:50] vehicles, so they've been borrowing
public works truck. Um, I know that they
[34:55] kind of want to get something anyway
that they might be able to use to sort
[35:00] of keep their stuff in instead of always
hauling it in and out of the building.
[35:04] Um, I still don't know if that's
feasible even in the winter time just
[35:07] because it does get cold. Um, and we
don't have a place where they can park
[35:12] it to keep
keep the paint from freezing and things
[35:17] like that. But there's just all these
little small things that are starting to
[35:21] creep up and
the money's starting to get a little
[35:26] limited it feels like. So, um, it's just
a little challenging this year. Well, we
[35:32] also have um the technology plan that
we're working on. There's more licenses
[35:36] that we need for the GIS in order to
make all of that um really operate. Um
[35:43] so there's licenses, there's different
levels of licenses. Um, but they're kind
[35:49] of what they're creating is you have
your base GIS um, maps and everything,
[35:54] but then as the guys are out in the
field, say if they they fix something
[35:59] that like they just knew about and it
needed fixed, they can go in and do um a
[36:06] a work
>> order
[36:08] » work order um, and say it's finished
once they get it done. but say they
[36:12] didn't have time, they can just create a
work order, assign it to whatever
[36:16] department it is, and it sits there
until then it does get done. Um, so that
[36:22] that's really nice. And then we also
have another element of when residents
[36:27] call in if they have an issue, um, you
know, say
[36:33] say that their water pressure is low.
Um, sometimes that can be caused by a
[36:38] water softener. it. There's different
reasons for why their water pressure
[36:42] might be low. So, if the guys go out and
that's kind of like a service call. So,
[36:47] that's a whole another separate program,
but like the work orders get tied to
[36:51] that specific point. So, if it's like
maybe a fire hydrant that they've um
[36:58] replaced,
you know, replaced a part on it or they
[37:01] painted it or whatever, it becomes a log
of everything that you've done to that
[37:06] that piece of equipment. Um, so you can
look back and see, um,
[37:12] you know, maybe they're turning valves,
exercising the valves to make sure that
[37:16] they're going up and down, and maybe one
breaks in the closed position. That can
[37:20] be noted right there. So, we know we
need to replace it. So, it it's a pretty
[37:25] powerful um
the Ezra is pretty powerful with
[37:31] everything that it can do and what
they're doing and setting us up for.
[37:35] It's exciting. Um, [clears throat]
so but it comes with a cost. So
[37:42] » how how hard would it be be to know what
we've paid engineering firms for
[37:48] inspection?
>> I can
[37:49] » just the inspection part.
>> I can put a summary together. That would
[37:53] be f because that would tell us like if
we're gonna spend more than our own
[37:57] inspector,
>> that would certainly give us some heads
[38:00] up as to how much how busy, you know,
and the the value of having our own.
[38:06] » Mhm.
>> Plus the intrinsic value of having a
[38:09] somebody that's on our side.
>> Well, right from the beginning.
[38:12] » And it would create uniformity project
to project to project,
[38:15] » right? Yeah.
>> Because we know our specs better than
[38:18] » anybody else.
>> Yeah.
[38:19] » Yeah. Um, we probably would need to like
look and see what we would need to do
[38:23] with the current um, contracts that we
have with like Donny Hugh and Associates
[38:28] for US20. Um, you know, the need for
inspection or having one of their
[38:35] inspectors out that would kind of go
away, but they're still going to need to
[38:39] be involved. Um,
I just I just feel that we when you have
[38:46] somebody that's invested here, it's goes
much better. Um,
[38:56] I can't think of anything else.
>> So, Mary, uh, jumping to streets and
[39:00] roads. I know you had put an email out
regarding community crossing matching
[39:04] grants. Have we applied for those or
>> No, because I need to do estimates and I
[39:10] also need to like figure out how much
that we have that we can al allocate
[39:14] towards that um because like MBH
restricted you have to use that towards
[39:20] um paving roads like it cannot be used
for any other thing. It can't be used
[39:25] for design pavement striping nothing.
It's paving. I I would definitely be in
[39:30] favor of applying for those grants. Um
especially what we have. Yeah. Yeah. For
[39:35] for what's needed. Again, looking at
that PASER schedule. Uh you know, if we
[39:40] can maybe try to get ahead,
>> I'll um
[39:43] » on some of those roads and streets that
need to be, you know, fixed.
[39:46] » I'll try to put some estimates together
before the next meeting and then so that
[39:51] way we can figure out what we're going
to apply for. we might have to call a
[39:56] special meeting just so we can sign a
letter, a financial commitment letter
[40:00] because that has to be signed by the um
town council in order to put it in with
[40:05] the grant application. So there might
need to be one more meeting
[40:08] » at the end of um September.
>> Thank Thank you.
[40:17] » Any other questions? Okay.
>> Thank you.
[40:22] All
right. Are we done with that?
[40:26] » I don't have anything else unless
there's any other questions or comments
[40:31] or concerns or
>> do you want to hear from us before the
[40:35] next town council meeting
>> regarding regarding budget? Okay.
[40:39] » Tonight, [laughter]
[40:42] » we're going to be out of luck.
>> Okay.
[40:44] » So, like like that. that it just gives
me time to at least kind of get it into
[40:48] the system and look and see and make
sure that it's something that actually
[40:52] is fundable as well.
>> Okay.
[40:54] » So,
[40:58] » all right. Uh on to announcements. Uh
Elart County Plant Committee meeting
[41:02] September 10th at 9:00 a.m. at the
Public Services Building.
[41:06] Elart County Plan Commission meeting
September 10th at 9:30 at the Public
[41:11] Services Building. Middbury Park Board
meeting m September 16th at 10:00 a.m.
[41:16] here at the town hall.
Elcart County Board of Zoning hearing
[41:21] officer
at 9:00 a.m. at the public services
[41:25] building.
Elcart County Board of Zoning Appeals
[41:30] September 17th at 9:00 a.m. at the
Public Services Building.
[41:36] Next Middle Rate Town Council meeting
will be September 21st at 6 PM here at
[41:41] the town hall. Um, our memorial wall
dedication is at 6:00 p.m. on September
[41:48] 11th, which is this Friday. Uh, please
attend.
[41:53] And we are adjourned.