[0:13] Welcome to [0:15] Tuesday, September 15, [0:17] Council meeting [0:18] voters of the middle class [0:19] gender. Kind regards [0:20] We invite guests to [0:21] audience. Um, we announce the meeting [0:25] at 5:01 p.m. Hello, Larry. IN [0:27] we have Larry online. AND [0:29] we have several people [0:30] online. And for those who [0:32] interested [0:33] to speak, simply, uh [0:34] , make sure you [0:35] Say your name, huh? [0:36] -eh, and raise yours, [0:38] uh, virtual hand [0:39] or your hand here. AND [0:40] we will try to follow [0:41] behind you, if you have [0:42] questions will arise. [0:43] Um, so our first [0:45] task - to congratulate [0:46] and present [0:47] our new [0:48] urban [0:48] administrator, [0:49] Liam Abeit. So we [0:51] very excited. [0:52] Liam, you started it. [0:54] yesterday. [0:56] Hello everyone. [0:57] Yes. And why would you? [0:58] just don't tell [1:00] we have two seconds [1:01] who are you, where are you from? [1:02] Um, yes, I started. [1:03] to work as a city worker [1:04] administrator [1:05] yesterday. I have [1:06] four years of experience [1:07] regional work [1:08] planner in [1:08] Northeastern [1:09] Kingdom, and I [1:10] Glad to be here. [1:10] Perfectly. [1:11] Incredible. [1:12] Thank you. Thank you very much and [1:13] Welcome. Ahem, [1:15] so, we are going [1:16] approve the protocol [1:18] regular meeting [1:19] board from 1 [1:20] September 2026. Ahem, [1:22] is there a proposal for [1:23] approval [1:24] protocol for 1 [1:25] September? I contribute [1:26] proposal. [1:27] Zara's offer. THERE ARE [1:28] offer? [1:30] And Stacey's suggestion. [1:31] Everyone who supports [1:32] approval [1:33] protocol for 1 [1:34] September, they say... [1:35] I... [1:37] OK. Eyes not yet [1:38] saw. Hmm, here we go. [1:40] approval of the order [1:41] daytime on [1:42] today, 15 [1:43] September 2026. AND [1:45] consideration of any [1:46] amendments to the order [1:47] daytime. Are there any [1:48] amendments to the order [1:49] daytime? I think [1:52] just like [1:53] reminder, we [1:53] Let's write this down in our notes. [1:55] in the correspondence section, [1:56] to discuss, um, [1:57] email from [1:58] Elliott about tennis [1:59] courts and what we know approximately about [2:02] tennis courts. [2:03] Yes. [2:04] Um, I got it too [2:05] today electronic [2:06] letters that I even [2:07] didn't look, um, they [2:09] regarding the update [2:10] regarding the.org migration [2:11] on gov. So we can [2:13] just quickly [2:13] view them and [2:14] look at them [2:15] also. Hmm, is there [2:16] proposal regarding [2:17] approval of the order [2:18] daytime on September 15? [2:19] All offer. Sarah [2:21] walks. Any second thoughts? [2:22] Everyone second thoughts. [2:23] And Paul second opinion. All [2:25] Those who are "for" say "I do." [2:27] I. [2:27] OK. The eyes have it. [2:29] OK. So, we [2:32] received a report on [2:33] highway condition [2:35] from Eric, um, yes [2:36] FEMA update from Zara [2:37] , as well as any [2:38] update on [2:40] ANR directives. So, [2:43] Eric, take it. [2:44] Of course. So, uh, in [2:46] mainly we [2:47] finished, uh, the farm [2:49] Daniel. Uh, done. [2:51] there are some grooves and [2:52] coating restoration [2:53] last week. Uh, in [2:55] I had a meeting with, uh [2:57] -uh, by Jordan with, uh, [3:02] Fitzgerald and, uh [3:04] , designers [3:05] Geotech for the old [3:06] project. Uh, we [3:09] finally decided, [3:10] uh, they had a lot [3:12] different options [3:13] projects with which [3:14] they had [3:14] concern. So we [3:15] finally decided [3:17] with the final [3:17] a project that [3:18] will include some [3:19] nails to the ground. Uh, [3:21] soil of what? [3:22] Ground nails. On [3:23] essentially, gigantic [3:24] rods into the ground to [3:25] help keep [3:26] soil from collapse. [3:27] O. E- [3:28] er, and small, er, [3:29] block wall closer [3:31] to the top, uh, through [3:32] The slope, it's so beautiful. THERE ARE- [3:36] uh, so these final [3:37] projects will be [3:38] ready by the end of the week [3:39] . Um, they still are. [3:41] preparing for [3:42] construction in [3:42] mid-October. [3:45] Also at the same time [3:46] working on the farm [3:48] Daniel. [3:49] Okay, Daniel. [3:54] Perfectly. [3:57] Okay, FEMA. [3:58] Regarding FEMA, our [3:59] state representative and, [4:00] uh, federal [4:01] representative were in [4:02] on vacation, so in [4:03] I have no updates. [4:04] from FEMA because we don't [4:05] met one and a half [4:07] weeks. [4:07] Good. Uh, and work with [4:10] Colbert box, [4:11] repair work. [4:13] Any updates on [4:14] this? Uh, we have more. [4:16] something to work with, uh, [4:17] edited by Rachel. [4:19] Good. We hope [4:21] we will make it [4:22] to do to [4:23] snowfall? [4:24] Yes. Good. Uh, okay. [4:27] I think we have some [4:28] question to the city [4:29] regarding roads or FEMA? Therefore [4:35] , this year [4:36] we are finishing [4:36] farm construction [4:37] Daniel at Old Brook, a [4:38] next year we will do [4:39] in French and [4:40] bulldog farms [4:41] . Good. Uh, [4:44] and I'll just add, uh, [4:46] as a continuation of, uh [4:47] , the last [4:48] council meeting [4:49] directors when we [4:50] talked about, uh [4:51] invoices and [4:52] engineer's drawing- [4:54] consultant from Novaya [4:55] England. Um, Zara and I, [5:01] Eric and Liam [5:02] met today [5:03] during the day, so that [5:09] to review, uh, [5:10] invoices and [5:11] drawings, and we [5:12] determined what was [5:13] four drawings that [5:15] were acceptable, uh, [5:16] for which they received [5:17] permission, uh, to [5:18] work done. Um, [5:25] so I replied, uh, [5:26] Nick from New England Consulting [5:27] Engineer and sent him [5:29] four drawings [5:30] along with the bills- [5:31] invoices that we [5:33] sent first. AND [5:37] I said that, uh, we [5:39] are willing to pay these [5:40] four bills- [5:41] invoices, and whether he [5:42] will recycle, that is, these [5:43] four, uh, drawings [5:45] , and will he recycle [5:46] invoices to reflect intelligently [5:49] price for four [5:50] drawing? Um, so, [5:51] I hope we will receive from him [5:53] the answer, and we [5:54] Let's just do it. [5:57] and we will move on. [5:59] Um, so we'll see. Yes. [6:01] For context, [6:02] the invoice was [6:03] on the number [6:04] similar drawings? [6:05] Well, it was, uh, so in [6:07] invoices [6:10] nothing really [6:11] it was said. There [6:12] it was simply written [6:13] "hidden". [6:14] How much product [6:15] they sent us and [6:16] what is the cost [6:17] product, we say, [6:18] what we really are [6:19] do we benefit? Ahem, [6:21] it's a little more complicated, [6:22] because he first [6:23] sent us two [6:24] accounts in which [6:25] were actually [6:26] specified [6:26] culverts. [6:28] Yes. [6:28] No, no numbers or [6:29] something like that. 44,900 [6:31] , and then the second [6:32] account, where also [6:33] it was stated [6:34] culverts [6:36] for 9,000. I asked them [6:37] give a breakdown. IN [6:39] the breakdown was [6:40] generally something on [6:41] like 107,000, but there were percentages [6:43] completed work. So [6:47] it was not for [6:47] hidden amount, and [6:49] according to the positions that [6:50] would happen if there was [6:51] contract used [6:52] . And since [6:54] there was no contract, and [6:55] some of the things that are here, [6:56] actually weren't [6:58] completed. [6:59] Ahem, [6:59] but let's say this, um, I think that's not quite it. [7:02] yes, I didn't put that [7:04] question to the best [7:05] in a way. For example, [7:06] they gave us, apparently, [7:08] 10 projects, 20 [7:09] projects? If there is, then [7:11] they gave us six. [7:13] So, if we divide [7:14] total volume [7:15] work for six, and they say we pay [7:18] for four out of six, or [7:19] it is more difficult, [7:21] because they build us, [7:21] as you can see in [7:22] this list, there are a bunch [7:23] things for which they [7:24] build us, and which [7:25] they never did [7:26] , as in [7:26] pre-construction [7:27] meetings. [7:28] Of course. Of course. [7:29] Um, and so on, and [7:30] designing [7:31] hidden rooms [7:32] , which were not, they already are [7:33] were designed [7:34] by us. [7:35] Good. I would just [7:37] asked if they didn't [7:38] perceive [7:39] offer from [7:40] outstretched [7:41] hugs, rainbows [7:42] and the sun, what are we talking about [7:43] Rob was informed. I [7:45] assured. But, uh, and [7:46] I wrote to him in [7:47] copies of electronic [7:48] letter. I wrote to him. [7:49] in a copy of the electronic [7:51] a letter to all of us and to him. [7:52] So you guys, [7:53] copy this from [7:54] Stacey. [7:54] Yes. And I hope so. I really hope so. [7:56] based on my [7:57] conversations with him. I hope they will come up with something [8:00] reasonable, why are we will be ready [8:01] pay. And I said [8:02] in an email, [8:03] that we will consider it [8:04] account on our [8:05] next meeting. [8:06] So we can, er, we won't just pay [8:08] its based on the new [8:10] account. We also [8:11] we will consider [8:11] bill. So, um, [8:14] to be updated [8:15] regarding this. Hmm, something [8:18] yet? There are other questions. [8:21] of... [8:22] No. And I am happy [8:23] I'll figure it out for you. [8:24] more details offline, [8:25] if you want. [8:25] Yes, of course. [8:27] Sorry. I am not [8:28] reviewed my [8:28] emails for [8:29] the last few days. [8:30] No. And I just sent [8:31] it's literally like this: [8:32] Yes, we just [8:33] gathered for this. [8:34] Good. [8:35] So, um, we [8:36] a little ahead [8:37] schedule, but we are here [8:38] equipment required. [8:40] Hmm, gentlemen, isn't it? [8:41] would you like [8:42] share with us? [8:46] Good. So, um, [8:47] total number [8:48] challenges this year [8:50] is 68. Um, we have [8:51] there were only three calls [8:53] during this period. AT. [8:54] Hmm, day off [8:55] mutual aid was [8:56] zero. Incoming [8:57] mutual aid was [8:58] zero. Our [8:59] maximum [8:59] number of responses [9:00] There were four members. [9:01] Our minimum, um, [9:03] unfortunately, I got it mixed up [9:04] their. Sorry. Our [9:06] The maximum was, um, [9:07] four. Our [9:08] was minimal [9:08] zero, and in [9:09] average two. Ahem, [9:10] one engine went out [9:11] okay once. Engine [9:13] the sixth one broke down [9:14] zero times. Ahem, [9:14] One tanker left. [9:15] out of order zero times. [9:16] Rescue machine [9:17] zero is out of order [9:18] times. Truck 14 [9:19] zero is out of order [9:20] times. And we have [9:21] four challenges [9:21] personal [9:22] transport. Uh, on [9:23] number 820 with us [9:24] worked [9:25] alarm on [9:26] route 2. At 8:23 we [9:27] worked [9:28] alarm on [9:29] North Bear Road [9:30] Swamp Road, and on 98th, e- [9:31] Well, we had a good trip. [9:33] - a traffic accident [9:34] on route 2, uh, but [9:35] the call was canceled, [9:36] because of the actual [9:38] There was no accident. Uh, in [9:39] there were nine of us [9:40] emergency calls [9:41] departments, eight of [9:42] which were only [9:42] medical, and this [9:43] we have passed the month [9:44] updating [9:45] briefing with [9:46] fire hydrant. [9:48] Perfectly. Uh, Sam and [9:50] Brendan, you're here. [9:51] to get acquainted with [9:52] Liam, our new [9:53] urban [9:53] administrator? [9:54] No. [9:55] Good. Greetings. Greetings. [9:56] So, uh, uh, that is [9:58] Sam and Brendan [9:58] working in our [10:00] voluntary [10:00] fire department, and, eh [10:02] -eh, maybe you will someday [10:03] visit the fire station [10:04] part. Perhaps, [10:05] any of you guys, [10:07] I don't know if he wants to. [10:07] guide him [10:08] a tour or something [10:09] similar. [10:10] Yes. Yes. [10:11] Uh, and just [10:12] to introduce him to [10:13] the world of firefighting [10:15] . And maybe he is too [10:16] wants to become [10:16] voluntary [10:17] firefighter. Liam, [10:20] I won't be with you for now. [10:21] to throw this. [10:22] Good. Hmm, thank you, [10:25] guys. Hmm, does anyone have one? [10:28] question to [10:29] fire department? [10:32] Thank you. Thank you. [10:34] I appreciate it. Um, we [10:35] just moving [10:37] further. Um, Mark again [10:38] no. [10:39] Matt will take over [10:40] management. [10:40] Oh, Matt will take over. [10:42] management. Good. Ahem, [10:44] he was going [10:44] join or something [10:45] like this? We shouldn't [10:47] wait. Good. Therefore, [10:48] hm, you have something for us [10:49] sent, right? [10:50] It's right here. [10:51] I can do it. Yes [10:53] . So [10:53] I suggest to you, [10:54] Guys, put [10:55] question. We have [10:56] four points that we [10:57] would like to discuss with [10:58] you. What I am [10:59] sent, maybe [10:59] one of the points on [11:00] which we want [11:01] concentrate, maybe [11:02] and no. But [11:02] good, [11:03] from the point of view of what [11:04] we hoped [11:05] to discuss, [11:05] let me [11:06] outline four [11:07] points. [11:08] One of them is a sheet, [11:09] which I was talking about, the capital plan, [11:11] some big expenses, [11:13] what do we have for the next [11:14] 15 years. You know, we have [11:15] there is enough ahead [11:16] big bill. But [11:18] apart from this, [11:19] maybe we should [11:20] start discussing, [11:21] seems to be the past [11:22] previous meeting [11:23] we talked about whether [11:24] should budget [11:25] committee to take a bigger one [11:26] participation in the process [11:27] budgeting, [11:28] to hold seminars [11:29] and meetings with [11:30] departments, [11:31] considering that we already [11:32] early [11:33] budget season. [11:35] If that's what he wants [11:36] from us, the electoral council, [11:37] we will need this [11:38] to know and start [11:39] act. Hmm, so I wanted to [11:40] would start with further [11:41] conversations, and then, [11:42] after we are [11:43] this will clarify, we can do more [11:45] to talk about [11:45] interesting topics, [11:46] related to capital [11:47] . [11:47] Good. So now you [11:48] would like us to [11:49] spent it [11:50] discussion? I would [11:51] said "yes". [11:52] Yes. That is, you ask if it is possible [11:55] budget committee [11:56] to participate more in [12:02] working with [12:03] departments to [12:04] present budgets [12:05] or even [12:06] prepare them for [12:07] press presentations. AND [12:11] just as historical [12:12] Wait a minute, Liam. [12:13] starting in October, [12:14] we invite us [12:16] to have such a schedule [12:17] meetings of our [12:18] electoral council. So, [12:20] like, okay, we [12:21] let's meet this [12:22] Tuesday with the fire department [12:24] service and, uh, [12:25] committee on [12:26] rest, right? AND [12:28] they will come, they [12:29] will be a point [12:30] agenda for [12:31] meeting of our [12:32] elected council, and they [12:33] present to us [12:34] your budget, and it's not [12:36] when we, you know, him [12:37] Are we confirming something? [12:38] like this. We just [12:39] we listen and say: " [12:40] Okay, that sounds... [12:41] you know, okay", or in [12:43] we may arise [12:44] question. But then [12:45] this money they gave us [12:47] they say how they [12:48] want to spend on [12:49] articles, then [12:50] are invested in [12:50] bigger, larger [12:51] city ​​budget. Um, so what? [12:55] so budget [12:56] committee, and then, [12:57] at the end, after [12:58] the way we have it, [12:59] budget committee [13:00] looks at these numbers and [13:02] , uh, looking at things [13:03] and finds out where we are [13:04] we can reduce, and [13:05] where we can add, [13:07] or what we need [13:08] to do with our [13:09] budget. So they [13:11] asking if they can [13:12] they be more [13:13] involved in this [13:14] process? Um, I would too. [13:17] said, of course, [13:18] you know, I think that's [13:19] it would be useful, [13:23] and how do you imagine it? [13:24] For example, whether [13:25] Do you imagine that you [13:26] meet them [13:28] separately? [13:28] Yes, I think we offer and what we [13:30] discussed, this is what shall we start [13:31] invite [13:32] department heads [13:33] to the meeting [13:34] budget committee. [13:35] We can [13:35] plan more [13:36] budget meetings [13:37] committee so that we [13:38] could catch them [13:38] to spend earlier. We [13:39] also probably [13:40] we will spend more [13:41] seminars on [13:42] the coverage we [13:43] let's discuss so that we [13:44] could spend some [13:46] the conversations we had [13:47] this year from certain [13:48] topics as early as possible. [13:50] Good, [13:51] perfectly. [13:55] And then, uh, what's yours? [13:56] vision, uh, meetings [13:58] elected council and our [13:59] past, uh, role in [14:00] listening to these [14:02] committees and [14:03] meetings with [14:03] committees? I think [14:07] that the elected members of the council, [14:08] obviously, [14:09] are invited to any [14:10] what sessions, what we are conducting. We must [14:12] provide updated [14:13] information, I think, [14:14] after each session, [14:15] which we then [14:16] regular [14:17] we will send you in writing. You [14:19] we don't need to [14:20] performed, but we will provide it. [14:22] Good. And then [14:25] budget committee, [14:26] probably, [14:27] present to us [14:32] actual budget, [14:33] which one will we sit down next? [14:34] and consider how [14:35] elected council. Yes, I am. [14:36] I think we will try. [14:37] do it as much as possible [14:38] faster, but partly [14:39] this will be a conversation with [14:40] all leaders [14:41] departments and [14:42] as soon as possible this [14:43] let's find out whether [14:44] wrong? This is probably [14:45] will be earlier than in [14:46] January. Yes, because [14:47] publishing and [14:49] all that. [14:49] Yes, because the book [14:50] it turns out. [14:51] Yes. And we need, [14:53] so that she gets in [14:54] to the printing house to [14:56] end of January. Yes. [14:58] Good. Um, [15:00] I also think that we [15:01] let's meet with [15:02] election commissions, [15:03] if they have any. [15:06] Um, I don't know if Liam [15:07] will bring this up for consideration. [15:10] He will try to be [15:11] present at all [15:12] budget meetings [15:14] , but, uh, do you have [15:15] any plans for that? [15:16] what would you like [15:17] see in the budget? Or [15:20] Do we want this? Or [15:21] Do we want that? What are you [15:23] eagerly [15:24] waiting for something [15:25] similar. However, if [15:27] you change the way, [15:28] what will we be [15:29] to assign personnel [15:30] , [15:31] that was the main thing [15:32] a matter of the past [15:33] the year when it was [15:34] added at the end. So, [15:36] Okay, I predict, [15:37] that this will also be [15:38] meeting with the election commission [15:40] by commission. They had [15:41] something is okay [15:42] daytime, about what [15:43] We don't know. [15:45] Good. List of everything, [15:46] what do we need, [15:47] for example, a bridge [15:48] Woodrow, what are we doing? [15:49] maybe we can [15:50] find a grant, but what, [15:51] if not? [15:52] Good. So, these are the ones [15:53] things that [15:53] will be useful [15:54] to the budget committee. [15:57] So I'm wondering if there is [15:58] committee on [15:59] good group of roads [16:00] for a meeting with [16:01] budget committee? [16:02] Yes, I think we should. [16:03] at least it is necessary [16:04] to invite. Hey, you have [16:06] there is an answer to this [16:07] question? I think that [16:08] if the committee on [16:09] The road answered "yes", [16:10] That's okay. [16:10] I mean, this is [16:11] main event, who [16:13] We will know about all this. Em [16:14] , I don't know if it has [16:15] to be a matter for the committee [16:16] on road issues, but, [16:17] of course, Eric has [16:18] sit down with the budget [16:19] committee, and I will...and [16:20] I'll go with Eric as [16:21] chairman of the committee on [16:22] road issues, [16:23] Yes? Because another thing, [16:25] about which we also [16:26] need to talk, [16:27] It almost sounds like this, [16:28] like it's Liam or Liam, [16:29] and someone from the council [16:30] directors will come [16:31] especially for the evening [16:33] council meeting [16:33] directors. Yes. [16:35] Because we need [16:36] will talk about [16:37] circle and [16:38] absolutely everything like that. [16:40] Yes. I don't think we can take all your [16:42] work, but we want [16:42] take as much as possible [16:43] previous work. [16:44] Of course. [16:45] Yes. Please, [16:48] if you could just [16:50] give us five things, [16:51] and we could. [16:54] Um, if you need [16:55] suggestion, I would make [16:56] a proposal that [16:57] so that the budget [16:58] the committee expanded [16:59] my, uh, sphere [17:00] activities to [17:01] embrace it. [17:01] Yes, that sounds right. [17:02] fun. [17:03] Of course. [17:03] Indeed, I think that [17:04] we just... [17:05] Yes, I don't think we should. [17:05] need...I don't think so [17:06] what do we need [17:07] vote on this [17:07] reason. I think [17:08] we didn't want the council [17:09] state [17:09] management shouted [17:10] on us. [17:10] Yes. Like you [17:11] Are you doing? This was ours. [17:12] work. You took this. [17:13] with us. [17:13] What do you think, guys? [17:15] with this. [17:15] Um, yes, I agree. IN [17:17] I had a question. [17:18] regarding the survey, which [17:19] is that okay with you [17:20] daytime. [17:21] Yes. [17:21] Hmm, so what are your plans? [17:23] on this? [17:24] Good. So, if [17:25] you can go back to [17:25] that I...it seems, [17:26] I sent...I [17:27] sent [17:27] email [17:28] today, and probably [17:29] no one had time [17:30] look at this, but [17:31] each of you must [17:32] have it under your back [17:33] this [17:33] thing. [17:33] Yes. Yes. This [17:34] double-sided sheet. [17:36] So that everyone is on [17:37] one wave. [17:40] I don't know how it is. [17:44] to name. [17:46] I think I'm out of [17:47] home. On high [17:50] levels, during [17:51] the last two or [17:52] three meetings [17:53] budget committee, [17:54] one of the topics we [17:56] discussed, was that [17:57] how we finance [17:58] large assets and things [17:59] , which we, we, you know, whether [18:01] then road [18:02] trucks, fire trucks [18:03] cars, um, all kinds [18:04] assets that are simply [18:05] need to be done regularly [18:06] update. What is certain? [18:09] way emphasized on [18:10] the first diagram, yes [18:11] this is what during [18:13] the next 15 years for us [18:14] need to spend [18:15] about 5.9 million [18:17] on these various assets. Ahem [18:18] , only the next one [18:19] year, if we [18:20] adhered to [18:21] the graphics we have [18:22] in our inventory [18:24] capital assets, [18:25] which includes the fire department [18:26] car and some others [18:27] assets, we need [18:29] would be to spend 1.44 [18:30] a million dollars, that, [18:31] uh, now, everyone [18:32] our funds with us [18:33] only 340 thousand; ago [18:35] for this [18:35] will require considerable [18:36] number of loans. To [18:38] things I don't [18:39] I want to spend now. [18:40] too much time, that's what [18:41] that it seems to us not [18:42] need to repeat [18:43] , or maybe we don't [18:44] need to be replaced [18:45] a fire engine, and this [18:46] the conversation we had [18:47] need to lead with [18:48] fire. So some of [18:49] those that are marked [18:50] next year, [18:51] may not be [18:52] next year. They [18:53] may be in three [18:54] years. They can [18:55] be any. But [18:56] let's leave it [18:57] aside some [18:58] question. Uh, because there is [19:00] 5.9 million dollars, [19:01] which, I am sure, [19:02] will be spent [19:03] within the next 15 [19:05] years. This does not include [19:06] city ​​garage, city [19:09] town hall or something, about [19:11] what we don't have [19:12] exact numbers. It [19:13] simply assets that [19:14] there are us, like ours [19:16] trucks and everything [19:17] something else that arises. It [19:19] quite big [19:20] score. Uh, now, [19:23] if excluded [19:23] interest on debts for [19:25] floods and payments for [19:26] loans, I think that [19:27] about six [19:28] percent of our [19:29] of the budget will go to [19:30] interest payments. It [19:33] True. In context [19:34] that the Bank [19:35] Vermont bonds [19:36] recommends that cities [19:37] such as, not [19:38] exceed this amount. [19:40] And so, now we have [19:41] question: can we [19:42] continue as is, and [19:43] can we [19:44] continue that [19:45] will have consequences for [19:47] percent. And if we [19:49] Let's turn this around, I [19:50] made a breakdown, [19:51] modeled on [19:52] based on these 15 years [19:53] down. We can [19:54] borrow only 4.5 [19:55] a million dollars. [19:57] In the end we will pay [19:58] 1.1 million percent [19:59] . We can borrow [20:00] 2.9 billion dollars, [20:01] that is 100 thousand [20:02] percent. We have [20:03] several different [20:04] options for that [20:05] How much will we start? [20:06] increase our [20:07] taxes now, so [20:08] they went to ours [20:09] capital funds, [20:10] so that we either borrow [20:11] more or less. Uh, [20:13] and so it seems that this [20:14] the big question is, [20:15] will affect tax [20:17] everyone's obligation [20:18] a city dweller as [20:19] next year, yes [20:20] and after 10 years. Um, we [20:23] wanted to [20:23] the discussion was [20:25] like this: we wanted to [20:26] you spent [20:27] survey to get a certain [20:28] information and [20:29] understand what they think [20:31] people about to keep one's own [20:33] tax expenses [20:34] as long as possible, for [20:35] unlike that [20:36] pay more to [20:37] avoid paying [20:38] percent, and so on [20:40] ...here [20:40] my short [20:41] story about [20:42] conversation. Stacy, I don't [20:43] I know if I answered. [20:44] to your question. Ahem, [20:46] but that was the introduction [20:47] the word I wanted [20:48] hear before we [20:49] moved to [20:49] poll. Of [20:50] survey details, [20:51] the budget committee still [20:52] undecided about [20:53] to say: "This is the one [20:54] survey option, [20:56] which we want." On [20:57] our meeting [20:57] earlier today we [20:59] discussed that two of [21:00] we will be united by our [21:01] thoughts and will move on to [21:02] of a different form. There are some [21:03] reviews about what is in [21:04] ideals we want to have [21:05] a few basic [21:06] questions, two or [21:07] very short chapters, [21:08] to get as much as possible [21:09] more reviews, but [21:11] then probably have [21:12] some more content that [21:13] is in some of these [21:14] questions like [21:14] additional things, to [21:15] which people are increasing [21:16] your knowledge. Because [21:18] we suspect that [21:19] there will be letters, different [21:20] equal percentages, and [21:21] some expenses for [21:22] loans that have [21:23] cities, can be [21:24] a surprise for [21:25] news, so you want [21:26] structure them so that we can get [21:28] answers to [21:29] questions that we put, and also [21:31] to provide more for...this [21:35] it was a long time, it was [21:36] many words for me, [21:38] but it's a certain feeling [21:39] how budgetary [21:40] the committee is thinking about this [21:41] problem [21:41] capital [21:42] financing and how [21:43] receive a contribution from [21:44] cities. We would like [21:46] to invite, I think, [21:47] less, we are interested in [21:49] feedback on issues [21:50] survey, but we also want [21:52] understand what he is thinking [21:53] election commission about [21:54] conducting such [21:55] kind of survey. AND [21:56] when we talk about [21:57] survey coverage [21:58] , this is really important, [21:59] and getting as much as possible [22:00] more quantity [22:01] responses from [22:02] as much as possible [22:03] number of different [22:04] people is very important. THERE ARE- [22:05] e, mailing list [22:06] would be ideal. You [22:07] send this [22:08] to every voter in [22:09] city, you get [22:10] answer, then no [22:11] there are questions about [22:12] who can get up to [22:13] this access. [22:13] It is obvious that for [22:14] some people online [22:15] easier. I think we [22:17] happy to do it. But [22:18] if we did this [22:19] online only, occurs [22:20] question, how are any of them [22:21] is leaving. Therefore, [22:22] if you send this [22:23] by mail, you need [22:24] send this [22:25] in about an hour and a half [22:26] a month before you [22:26] do you want them to do this [22:27] received. [22:30] And I only have a quick one [22:31] questions about [22:32] interest rates. You know what we [22:35] return interest [22:37] for the flood of 2023. We [22:39] already received checks for [22:40] it's by mail. And the only one [22:41] the reason why we don't [22:43] paid for 4810 for 2024 [22:44] year, is that [22:46] what do we need [22:47] to repair more roads. So in [22:51] it has a number, I don't [22:52] I know how much we [22:53] took out loans now. [22:55] But you are talking about [22:56] future. You are not [22:58] rule this out, I think, except, perhaps, [23:00] interest payments [23:01] for the next year or [23:02] two where we have " [23:03] OK". [23:04] So this month 5.9 is not [23:05] has nothing in common [23:07] with " [23:07] OK". Just wanted to make sure that, on [23:11] my opinion, [23:12] the most important thing is that [23:13] need to be conveyed to [23:14] people, this is an opportunity [23:15] to convey interest in [23:16] short-term [23:17] stay [23:18] compared with [23:19] long-term [23:20] a larger payout, [23:21] because, in my opinion, [23:22] everyone who sees this [23:23] in front of you, maybe [23:24] to see this [23:25] correlation. So for [23:28] This is huge for me. [23:29] advantage. We would like [23:30] reduce our annual [23:31] budget. How many of us [23:32] we save in the future, or what [23:34] is this the cost? [23:35] I think it's complicated. [23:36] question. Yes, [23:37] we know what we will hear [23:39] from people in the city who [23:40] , perhaps not planning to live here for a long time, or, [23:42] maybe they just [23:43] think that they already [23:44] paid for all this and [23:46] don't want to pay for [23:47] all this in advance. [23:48] So this is one of the really [23:49] important reasons why [23:50] we want to spend [23:51] survey, is [23:52] understand whether everyone [23:53] agree, and whether [23:54] we really don't [23:55] need a lot [23:56] to worry about it, [23:57] are there more topics for [23:58] discussion. [23:59] Well, and I think that now [24:00] there is also concern [24:01] regarding interest [24:02] pond, right? [24:03] Bond market [24:04] quite volatile, and [24:05] then loans, you know, [24:06] loan rate [24:07] for banks. [24:08] We talked about this with [24:09] many people, and we believe that this [24:11] conservative, but, [24:12] probably, [24:13] conservative estimates [24:14] , taking into account everything in today's dollars [24:16] , I think it's great. Yes. [24:21] I mean that [24:22] public [24:23] the publication of this, [24:24] well, you know, any [24:26] means, I have [24:27] mind you, I think that [24:28] mailing list [24:29] wonderful only because [24:31] it involves everyone. It [24:33] involves everyone [24:34] much more. [24:36] The cost in the end [24:38] is growing, and [24:39] I think that if we [24:39] made a postal [24:40] mailing list, then perhaps [24:41] we could add [24:42] more information, [24:43] for example, about our [24:44] new addresses [24:45] email, [24:46] or about some others [24:47] the main things we want you to know [24:48] the wider community, we [24:49] could just go to them [24:51] add. [24:51] And I think if you, [24:52] guys, open to [24:53] this, if there are others [24:54] options [24:54] use, I think [24:55] that is worth thinking about [24:56] which one is correct [24:57] the way we want [24:58] begin? We can [24:59] somehow add [25:00] poll. But, one [25:01] of things that I also [25:02] I would like to avoid this. [25:03] what I don't know about [25:04] what others think [25:05] committees on [25:05] meetings, gatherings [25:06] reviews. We are not [25:07] we want the city [25:08] sent 20 [25:09] surveys. So, [25:10] just make sure [25:11] that there is some kind of serum [25:12] if we do this, [25:13] to contact [25:15] people, make sure [25:16] that it is connected with everything [25:17] to others, that I...therefore, I think the question is, [25:25] which one I would like [25:25] get an answer, [25:27] if it's okay, [25:28] is: Can [25:29] Special date advice [25:30] we have an idea about your [25:31] objection to [25:32] poll? I think [25:33] what is our process [25:34] the thinking was [25:35] so that two members [25:36] the councils united [25:37] around the project. We will hold a meeting [25:39] budget committee, [25:39] to say that everyone [25:40] to members of the budget [25:41] the committee likes it [25:42] this project. Then we [25:43] Let's share it with you. [25:44] . I think we are a perfect match [25:46] to the process, and yet you, [25:47] guys, it seems [25:48] we agree to [25:49] open meeting [25:50] and decide how to do it [25:51] send out. What [25:51] related to logistics [25:53] , I believe that [25:53] logistics here [25:54] important. There is a separate [25:55] question by mail, which I [25:56] I'll leave it to you guys. Or [25:57] The city is ready for this. [25:58] pay from the point [25:59] from the perspective of the workforce? We can become [26:01] volunteers. I will do it. [26:03] everything necessary for this [26:04] happened. Another question [26:06] : November 5, if [26:07] we could, perhaps, [26:08] should have [26:09] survey when people [26:10] they will come, this is another one [26:12] a platform for [26:13] so that people know about it, [26:14] what could be good [26:15] a goal that can be achieved [26:16] strive. [26:17] So, I think that's what scares the cycle? Well, [26:21] at least for me, [26:22] one of the common [26:24] the topics we heard [26:25] last year, was [26:26] transparency, right? [26:27] And this is very common. [26:28] term, but [26:29] transparency and how we make these decisions [26:32] as a group. So for me [26:34] it's like this: if people or [26:35] worried, or [26:36] want to have more [26:37] information about this, [26:38] quote, transparency and [26:40] the direction in which we move, then this [26:42] Now is your chance. And we can only [26:44] to impose this on people [26:45] possibility so much [26:47] as far as we [26:48] physically able. And I would [26:49] said that on this day [26:50] this moment [26:51] most comprehensive [26:52] the way we can do it. [26:56] So I support everything, [26:58] What will you guys do? [26:59] together to make it happen [27:00] people have the opportunity to [27:01] make. Yes. Because [27:05] I think it will be [27:06] important, and I think that [27:07] people will hear their [27:08] thoughts, they will have [27:10] a small contribution, [27:11] you know. Yes. Um, I would too. [27:16] also said that [27:17] people's attention level [27:18] extremely low, [27:20] therefore in this [27:20] the survey you [27:22] spent, many words. [27:26] Yes. [27:26] And we talked about [27:27] how to simplify it. [27:28] So, I think that one [27:29] from the tricks on which [27:30] we will focus on [27:31] reviews that we [27:32] they said it would be, [27:33] probably two or three [27:34] questions, these are: " [27:35] Learn about [27:36] survey that we [27:37] "We ask you," and then, [27:38] if you are interested [27:39] respond to [27:39] additional questions [27:40] or do you want to read [27:41] more, there will be something on [27:42] like a continuation, [27:43] but it has to be [27:44] page of two [27:46] questions. [27:48] Yes, it is. [27:50] not an easy topic to [27:51] do it right, [27:52] we just know that [27:53] is happening, [27:54] for example, how would you [27:55] summed it up at [27:56] one page. [27:58] But I mean that [27:59] me, and I didn't have [28:00] possibilities...I even [28:01] I didn't see this letter. [28:02] still. But the point is, [28:05] borrow now, [28:06] pay later or [28:07] pay now, [28:08] borrow less [28:09] later? [28:11] I think that when this [28:12] more than three questions, [28:14] this is what you think, how [28:15] the city pays for it [28:16] now? Just so [28:18] to understand that, on [28:19] people's opinion, [28:20] is happening, and what would [28:21] you would prefer to have lower [28:23] payments during [28:24] a longer period [28:25] and potentially [28:26] to spend more than [28:27] something. Um, but then, [28:28] if and what happened, then [28:29] okay, here are a few [28:30] different ways, like [28:31] we could actually [28:32] to do this with [28:33] actual figures from [28:34] actual purchases [28:35] , and you know, do you want [28:37] Are you doing this now? [28:37] later. Uh, I think [28:41] what from the point of view [28:42] tax accounts, [28:43] for me it's what we [28:44] let's try to do this [28:46] when we get to [28:47] a specific amount, [28:48] you know, it's the sum of x times 100 [28:49] 000 or some other [28:50] the easiest way [28:52] consideration, you know, [28:53] when there is another way [28:54] cost of media housing [28:56] equals x, media- [28:57] housing–this is it [28:57] increase for this [28:59] factory compared to [29:00] this factory, and we are in [29:01] ultimately [29:02] we spend x on [29:03] percent, and in [29:04] the result is [29:05] something general. Yes, I am. [29:09] I think we still have [29:10] a lot is needed [29:11] to make it so [29:12] liked the most [29:13] interested, but this [29:15] what we are asking. [29:17] This is what the council [29:18] directors throughout my life [29:19] history in the council [29:20] directors, this is one of [29:22] those things that we [29:23] weighed over time, [29:24] because it is also [29:25] depends on [29:26] what interest rates, [29:27] isn't that right? So, when [29:28] interest rates for [29:30] low loans, loan [29:31] is acceptable for [29:33] people because you know what you will get [29:35] fixed rate on x [29:36] number of years, [29:37] for example, at the level of 2%. [29:40] As soon as it starts [29:42] to grow, to arise [29:43] dilemma: "Do I want [29:44] pay this higher [29:45] interest rate? [29:50] Or, you know, because [29:51] we do not invest our [29:53] money when we take [29:55] bank account, [29:57] isn't that right? [29:57] And this, I think, is completely [29:59] another conversation we had [30:00] must lead. Now [30:01] we have money that [30:02] stay afloat, [30:03] and they constitute [30:04] about 5%or 5%, and we [30:05] could translate them [30:06] somewhere and get 3%, [30:07] so we have to do this [30:08] to do, forgetting about [30:10] poll, [30:10] there are some basic [30:12] mechanisms. [30:13] And in general, I think that [30:14] the whole point of the plan [30:15] raising capital [30:16] is to know what will happen next, and [30:18] then plan like this, [30:19] so that we can [30:20] to equalize taxes [30:21] rates. We don't want to [30:22] so that taxes increase [30:23] one year, and [30:24] the next fell; [30:25] the presence of a certain [30:26] amount of money in reserve [30:27] gives us a choice [30:28] to borrow money or not. [30:29] If in [30:30] We don't have any money. [30:30] funds, we don't have [30:32] choice. We are in debt. [30:33] Yes. And that's why I think that [30:35] if everything looked like [30:37] , you know, from 2011 to 2020 [30:38] year, that's not very [30:40] conversation, right? [30:41] Good. We borrow, [30:43] This is normal. Doesn't have [30:44] value. [30:45] As for your opinion, Liz, [30:46] we never had [30:48] so many extras [30:49] funds. We didn't have [30:50] CIP funds that we have five today [30:53] years ago. I have on [30:55] mind, we built, we [30:57] added to them, and we are trying [30:59] accumulate these funds. [31:01] I think that's all. [31:02] goal. So, when we are going to buy [31:04] a fire engine or [31:06] road truck, [31:07] instead of [31:08] borrow 350,000, you know, [31:12] we can either [31:13] to pay for it [31:14] immediately, or even [31:15] reduce the amount we borrow, you know, this [31:18] its purpose. [31:18] And there are government programs [31:20] , isn't it? I think that [31:21] he doesn't remember what it is [31:22] Secretary of State [31:23] or something like that. If in [31:24] you are there, you can [31:25] to borrow, I think, to [31:26] 200 thousand; they have [31:27] zero percent. [31:28] If we have [31:29] enough of these funds, [31:31] then we will have a better [31:32] position for [31:32] making purchases from [31:34] ...that is, it increases [31:37] opportunities, but for [31:38] our account...one [31:41] the moment I wanted [31:42] would like to point out regarding [31:43] point of 2011, this is what are we considering [31:45] the remaining interest [31:46] pond; never them [31:47] actually it wasn't, or [31:48] wrong? So we just [31:49] we don't want [31:50] use very [31:51] low interest rates [31:52] bets, right? [31:53] And you made a comment [31:55] , I just want [31:56] to make sure that [31:57] I understand this correctly. [31:58] mathematics, which, um, [31:59] for the city budget, 6%- [32:01] this is a kind of [32:02] the maximum you [32:03] must have from your [32:04] budget that should go [32:06] for interest payments [32:07] for bonds, [32:08] loans [32:08] in general. [32:10] Yes. Um, and I can [32:11] to provide you with accurate [32:12] the wording of this [32:13] questions, but there are certain [32:14] instructions, [32:14] and we are at it now, [32:16] although we get...we [32:17] we know that we are coming back. [32:18] Yes. I don't know. I am not [32:20] I know. I don't have [32:21] an idea of ​​why we still have loans. I think because we have it was necessary, but we will receive soon [32:26] a million dollars. [32:27] No, no, but even [32:28] if not taken into account [32:29] FEMA matters, I know, in [32:29] we have loans for [32:30] trucks that we [32:31] bought. We have loans [32:32] that are burning. We have [32:34] just eat [32:35] debt service [32:36] . [32:36] Yes. You said somewhere, [32:37] What percentage are we may be in debt, [32:40] if we just borrow [32:41] everything that awaits us, or [32:42] wrong? Isn't it? Yes, [32:44] it would be above 10%, I think. Well, and then with [32:48] growth [32:48] interest rates this [32:49] the number will be slow [32:51] or quickly, [32:52] and I don't think mine [32:53] main idea [32:53] is that we don't want to try [32:56] to fight with [32:56] financial years [32:57] around maximization [32:58] , you know, ours [32:59] compromise and [33:00] percent, because in [33:01] We also have inflation. [33:02] We want to talk. [33:03] about things that really [33:04] we will be hit, [33:05] but inflation [33:06] trucks, inflation [33:07] heavy equipment, [33:08] simply [33:08] postponing it [33:10] per year can cost [33:11] we have 10%, because the prices [33:12] growing so fast. [33:13] Uh, so I think that [33:14] these are all wonderful things, [33:15] if we could sit down [33:16] yes indeed [33:17] optimize them, but [33:18] we should have more [33:19] fundamental [33:19] the question of whether [33:20] wrong? [33:21] Well, I also think that [33:22] maybe something [33:23] average, right? [33:24] It seems like the best thing [33:25] what's there, you can [33:26] to do both [33:27] at the same time and be [33:28] financially [33:29] responsible. [33:30] This could be the case if [33:32] we returned to [33:33] that list, we don't have [33:34] there would be these costs [33:35] in advance. But if in [33:37] we have expenses upfront [33:38] where we are meeting [33:39] spend, you know, 2 [33:40] millions of dollars [33:41] during the next [33:42] three to five years, in [33:44] there won't be many of us [33:45] options if we don't [33:46] Let's begin. [33:47] Well, we saw [33:47] result of failure [33:48] from the chest. Here [33:50] We are here. [33:51] And how many do we have in [33:53] our CIP for, um, for [33:54] savings? Not [33:56] How many? [33:57] 340. It's nothing. [34:00] We asked...How much? [34:01] we asked for the past [34:02] year? It was just [34:03] about 50? I [34:05] more than that. [34:06] Good. [34:08] Um, okay. Are there any more? [34:13] something about [34:14] you want to talk, [34:15] Matt? [34:16] I think we all [34:17] considered. Question [34:18] regarding your thoughts on [34:19] surveys? This is something. [34:22] Yes. [34:22] How about a timeline? [34:24] ? What about you guys, of course? [34:26] , now we are preparing for you [34:27] a certain forecast. What are you [34:29] thinking about time [34:30] framework? I think that in [34:32] ideal scenario [34:33] we would appoint our [34:34] the next budget [34:35] meeting until October 6th. [34:37] We would consider some [34:39] recommendations from the NCA [34:40] for budget [34:41] committee. Then we would [34:43] also identified them to [34:44] this week. This is what [34:47] we would like to do, [34:48] if in [34:49] Larry has a question. [34:53] Yes. Matt, where are you? [34:54] suggest, hmm, [34:55] publish [34:56] poll? It's simple. [34:58] forum on the main page, do we have, [35:00] as I have noticed in some [35:01] surveys that we [35:03] spent with others [35:04] topics or [35:04] committees, where, [35:05] you know, we get [35:07] on average from 50 to [35:08] 100 people. Do we have [35:09] some way [35:10] promote it more [35:11] or attract more [35:12] people to participate? [35:14] I think the question is [35:15] how do we get [35:16] good [35:17] representative [35:18] sample? I really wanted to [35:19] would that the selection [35:20] the commission said that [35:21] we can do [35:21] mailing list, and if there is [35:22] other information that [35:23] you want to send, [35:24] I think we should [35:25] to do it. I think [35:26] what if we sent [35:27] by mail to everyone, and then [35:28] conducted online [35:29] informational [35:29] explanatory [35:30] work that does nothing [35:31] costs, it is probably [35:32] would provide us [35:33] best coverage [35:34] . [35:34] Also regarding October 6, and [35:36] if you guys [35:37] you can approve up to 5 [35:38] November, if we [35:39] could have here [35:40] hard copies, hmm, [35:42] when people come [35:43] vote, we too [35:44] we have, you know, something [35:46] this is it, and we ask people [35:47] to remember about [35:48] poll. It, [35:49] probably between mailings [35:50] by mail and [35:51] informational [35:52] explanatory [35:53] work per day [35:53] elections, I think it's [35:55] will give us the best [35:56] chance to get on [35:57] Olympics. [35:57] What is in [35:58] middle box? [36:00] It depends. I have on [36:02] meaning that postal [36:03] expenses constantly [36:04] are growing. So, I think that postcards [36:06] even too much [36:07] expensive. Well, [36:12] Yes, [36:13] I brought, [36:14] and I don't know if it is [36:15] preferably, but if you [36:16] want to lower [36:16] postage cost, you [36:17] could have a postcard [36:18] with information about [36:19] what are we doing [36:20] survey, and online [36:21] -link and say [36:22] that if you want [36:23] a paper copy, you can visit [36:25] city [36:25] administration. [36:26] Good. [36:27] Or asked, [36:28] Yes? Or [36:29] call us. IN [36:31] you may also be QR- [36:32] code, perhaps for [36:33] people. I mean, [36:34] because most [36:35] people have expensive [36:36] phones. [36:37] We talked about it. IN [36:38] you are also there for [36:39] large group [36:40] population that does not [36:41] uses [36:42] electronics. They are not [36:43] know what a QR code is. [36:45] I know that I always [36:46] has to explain on [36:47] exhibition. So, [36:49] you know, I think we want to be able to cover everyone. [36:54] Therefore, I think we, [36:55] maybe you will have to [36:56] do more [36:57] one option. [36:58] I mean, online [37:00] I really can if [37:01] everyone is comfortable, I can [37:02] post online. I can do this. [37:04] available. I can [37:05] post this on [37:06] affiliated website. [37:08] I will pay 10 dollars. [37:09] per domain, for example, [37:10] this is electronic [37:11] the side that does nothing [37:12] it won't cost us anything, [37:14] but to cover enough [37:15] number of people and [37:16] to make sure that we cover the correct [37:19] distribution [37:19] demographic groups, [37:20] This is the hardest part, I think. [37:22] that it is small [37:22] vulnerable or [37:23] most affected [37:25] population group is that [37:26] , which probably [37:29] it will be the hardest [37:30] to convey this, yes, yes, [37:31] Well, [37:32] and explain this too, I mean, this is [37:34] difficult for anyone [37:36] . Right. [37:37] Yes. [37:37] I think the explanation is, [37:38] which we can [37:39] to get if [37:40] we can reach [37:41] to the people, we will do [37:41] everything possible to [37:42] explain this, and I think [37:43] that there is an opportunity for [37:44] feedback from [37:45] about this. Um, we [37:46] Sam and I will [37:47] hard [37:48] to work for something [37:49] get. [37:50] And then you are going [37:52] professionally [37:52] print them somewhere, [37:54] these postcards, or this [37:55] something we can [37:56] do it now? So I have no idea. [37:58] We could, that is, yes, [38:00] we could, this, [38:01] probably, [38:01] will cost more. [38:03] Yes. I don't see us [38:04] created postcards [38:05] from here. Yes. [38:06] Is the city, uh, that is, we send things [38:08] by mail from the city? So, [38:09] do we get one [38:11] of these, uh, [38:11] non-profit [38:12] postal services that [38:13] we pay [38:14] to the post office [38:15] ? [38:15] Our car is not [38:16] set up for this. [38:17] You will have to address, uh, you can use [38:20] postal service, which [38:21] will do it for you, or [38:23] something like that. And this [38:24] maybe [38:24] the simplest [38:25] way. [38:26] So you just [38:26] send things [38:27] through our mail [38:28] service. Yes, that's right. [38:30] you do this because the whole [38:31] our mail goes through our little [38:34] postal counter [38:35] below, and this...Hers [38:36] counting, I think [38:37] , we pay, perhaps, [38:39] three cents less, [38:40] than the usual rate, [38:41] or 5 cents less, [38:43] than the usual rate, [38:44] something like that. [38:45] I would also ask [38:46] your printing house, is it [38:47] something that they [38:48] provide, for example, [38:50] they would give it something [38:51] there, and... [38:52] Yes, we did that. [38:53] You worked in the mail, [38:55] Sandy, right? Yes. [38:56] I think we can...we can [38:58] come, we can [38:59] find the cheapest [39:00] way to do it... [39:01] important, and we can [39:02] to give you this rating. [39:03] I haven't decided yet, [39:04] I think it's more like...yes, [39:05] we would like to do [39:06] mailing list, but [39:07] we need an assessment, [39:08] you know, we need [39:10] cost. [39:10] I would appreciate it if this [39:11] will cost [39:12] at least 1800 with all [39:14] expenses, postcard [39:15] and mailing, [39:18] it would seem [39:19] intelligent, [39:19] actually yes, I am [39:20] I think it will be [39:22] Less, [39:22] Well, I'm just saying that. [39:23] because before I [39:24] sent by mail to [39:25] autumn lunch with [39:26] harvest, and I [39:27] sent to everyone in the city [39:28] , and I did it through [39:30] post office, [39:31] it was a cheap way [39:32] , and for this you need [39:33] there was permission. I have on [39:34] mind you, it was from [39:35] hands, it was about 10 [39:37] years ago, and this [39:38] It cost 1400 dollars. [39:40] Yes. [39:40] So, I don't think that's it. [39:41] will be so, [39:42] two thousand. [39:43] A couple of thousand. Yes. [39:44] I would...I don't think so. [39:45] there should be much [39:46] more than two thousand, [39:47] but [39:48] Yes. Well, I mean [39:49] that I am completely for it, [39:51] because, you know, we want to be [39:52] maximum [39:53] transparent. Well, we [39:56] also planned, and you [39:57] just talked about [39:58] this, um, to spend [39:59] public meetings, [40:00] you know something like [40:02] : "Come to our [40:03] public meeting regarding [40:04] budget", but something on [40:05] like: "We will have [40:06] community forum with [40:07] cookies, and we [40:08] let's talk about [40:09] budget". Kind regards [40:14] please. We are very happy. [40:15] to do it. I think [40:16] what are we planning [40:17] to hold some [40:18] seminar like [40:19] this. I think that [40:22] the budget committee does not [40:23] wants to decide how [40:24] tell people, here [40:26] where should they come from, [40:27] here is the place, here is how [40:28] to provide [40:29] food, etc. [40:31] Yes. Not to mention [40:32] this time of year. Sorry. [40:34] We have a long way to go. [40:35] November and December, and [40:36] then January, when we have to develop [40:37] budget. [40:38] No, no. I think that in [40:39] We will be gone, [40:41] but [40:41] I think you want [40:42] to be a little later, [40:43] when we will have, [40:44] for example, [40:45] preliminary budget. [40:46] Yes, you have a previous one. [40:47] planning, [40:48] and then, and then, [40:49] their invitation, and that's it [40:50] then they can [40:51] discuss this and [40:52] provide feedback or [40:53] something like that, and then [40:54] decisions committee [40:55] helps to plan [40:56] west, or [40:57] wrong? [40:57] But it's not far, [40:59] guys. [41:00] That's why we're here. [41:01] the following. [41:02] It's something like [41:03] what we should [41:04] to plan backwards, or [41:05] wrong? For example, [41:06] when should it be [41:07] Has the budget been approved? [41:08] When we, you know, [41:09] need to be warned [41:10] about this and all that, and [41:11] yes, that's why I think that [41:12] bottleneck now [41:13] will be what we want [41:14] will have to sit down with [41:15] department, or not [41:16] Yes? So now, when [41:17] we will be the ones who do it [41:18] come on, we can do anything [41:19] plan it, then [41:20] easier to achieve [41:20] perfection. I like it. [41:22] Good, [41:23] so just hold on [41:24] let us know when, on [41:26] in your opinion, you will [41:27] ready for one, or [41:28] invite a selection [41:30] I'm glad to come and [41:30] to share, [41:31] for example, oh, us [41:32] need a cola and everything [41:33] like this. Um, and then, after- [41:35] second, when will you be [41:36] ready, come to [41:38] us and present that, [41:39] What do you have? [41:40] us too [41:40] will be useful [41:41] financial reports. Um, [41:44] we will have to contact you, [41:46] Guys, you are not [41:47] you will receive from [41:48] We have news. I think [41:50] that there will be a lot of things, and [41:52] this [41:52] idea for you too. [41:54] So earlier Cheryl [41:54] just small [41:55] spreadsheet [41:56] and entered the numbers. You, [41:57] Guys, are you going to do this? [41:59] do? [42:00] I'll talk to Cheryl, [42:01] but yes. I think that [42:02] she will be too [42:03] satisfied. I think [42:04] that's right. [42:05] Okay, great. Good. [42:07] Still have questions? Larry, in [42:08] Do you have any more questions? No. [42:10] Good. There are still questions. [42:12] from someone? Good. What [42:14] Well, thank you very much. It was [42:15] very useful. [42:16] And thank you, guys, [42:17] for coming out, [42:18] you know, supported [42:19] us in this way. I think it will be very [42:22] useful. [42:23] Um, okay. Um, [42:26] now we are back. [42:28] You can stay, [42:29] while we talk [42:30] about the price of improvement [42:32] premises. [42:33] Wait, we wanted to [42:35] know, Liam, and I [42:36] wanted to know what [42:37] means "T". [42:38] Improvement Team [42:39] premises. [42:40] So the team from [42:40] pull-ups, about which [42:42] Zara told me [42:42] this morning, I didn't [42:43] remembered. [42:44] Good. [42:45] From suitability. Good. [42:48] So, who is this...Oh, this, um, [42:50] we...we [42:52] got the name you [42:54] came up with. [42:54] I will ask. Good, [42:58] You can take it. [42:59] Okay, we have Dave here. [43:00] Makita. He is old. [43:04] city ​​volunteer. Liam, [43:06] and he enters [43:07] committee on [43:08] suitability, and he [43:09] going a little [43:10] tell us about it [43:11] . He is the chairman of the committee. [43:12] from suitability. [43:14] Thank you. I will ask. [43:15] Erica help me. [43:17] Before we move on [43:18] to the details, I want [43:19] to talk about [43:20] recommendations that we [43:21] developed for themselves, and [43:22] about how we approach [43:23] projects and [43:24] we determine [43:24] priorities. Security [43:25] life activities are [43:26] number one. Number two- [43:28] these are problems with norms [43:29] . Building damage or [43:32] her absence. [43:35] Equipment failure [43:36] or lack thereof. [43:38] So unique [43:39] opportunity to decide [43:40] problems for [43:41] at an attractive price. [43:43] Nevertheless, we are a little [43:44] the last ones had fun [43:45] several months. We [43:49] learned that [43:50] expansion [43:51] swampy [43:51] garage areas already [43:53] provided for by the project [43:54] . So, the entire territory, [43:59] which we are considering, [44:00] no longer open [44:03] for expansion. [44:04] Eric tomorrow [44:05] meets with [44:06] state representatives [44:08] about what we can do [44:10] legally. One of [44:12] questions that I [44:13] I'm going to her. [44:13] to put, that's what [44:14] because our [44:15] the building is located [44:16] in the buffer zone, [44:20] how much we care [44:21] about conservation [44:22] buildings there and [44:22] use...This [44:26] one of the questions, one of the [44:27] many questions that [44:28] I can have it. [44:32] Just hypothetically, [44:33] can you demolish [44:34] building and [44:35] build a new one on [44:36] in the same place? I am not like that. [44:38] I think because [44:39] part of the building [44:40] is in [44:41] buffer zone, therefore [44:42] right. [44:44] Plus it's unnecessary, [44:45] because the building is in [44:46] order. We need [44:48] more space for [44:49] more quantity [44:49] vehicles [44:51] . [44:51] Yes. [44:52] So now we are working [44:53] above the plan [44:54] consider the existing [44:55] a building that we really like [44:56] examined in detail, [44:57] some engineers [44:58] inspect it to [44:59] get a price for [45:00] repair and [45:01] modernization [45:02] existing garage, so that [45:03] to make it [45:04] safe and well [45:05] ventilated. [45:07] Solve problems with [45:08] norms, and then [45:09] create a working [45:10] environment that [45:11] much better for [45:12] employees. They are not [45:13] must work in that environment, in [45:15] who they work for [45:16] now. It's simple. [45:17] dangerously. It [45:18] need to be decided. [45:19] So we quickly [45:20] we continue working [45:21] over this. Our plan [45:22] is to [45:23] Eric made a list, [45:27] some prices, got [45:28] some requests [45:29] suggestions and time to [45:30] you included this in, [45:31] sorry, voting [45:33] city ​​council for [45:36] improvement of the existing [45:38] garage. [45:40] Do we need [45:41] to do it on city roads [45:42] meeting, can we [45:43] Is it advisable to do this? [45:44] I think that this [45:44] depends on the price. [45:46] Yes, [45:46] it depends on [45:47] money, or [45:48] wrong? I think that [45:49] the minimum that we need to do this [45:51] to resolve the issue with [45:53] doors and gaping [45:54] the holes that are there. [45:56] Seal everything, [45:57] so that we don't lose [45:58] warm. [45:59] I have to believe in [46:00] head that we [46:01] exceeded this threshold. [46:04] What is the threshold? [46:05] Er, 25,000 [46:09] not in order to go to the city. [46:11] No, that would just be [46:12] for the chosen ones. [46:13] Yes. [46:14] This is only for [46:15] of what the city has [46:16] approximately 200. You [46:17] remember that in our [46:18] procurement policy, [46:19] what, um, [46:20] Oh, what does it require? [46:21] conducting auctions? [46:22] Yes. [46:22] What? No. What does it require? [46:25] special meeting [46:26] for the whole city, so that, [46:27] um... [46:30] Well, I don't know. I don't think so. [46:31] , that... [46:32] I thought it was 30,000. This is [46:36] to approve the choice. [46:38] Yes. for approval [46:39] choice [46:46] from this. [46:46] But money can be [46:48] taken from the construction site [46:49] fund. I mean, [46:50] What do you take away from [46:52] any money that [46:53] postpone for [46:54] future building. But [46:56] we need [46:57] do this first [46:58] building safe. [46:59] Yes. [47:00] Before we begin [47:01] construction of a new [47:02] buildings. So without any [47:04] what approval, [47:05] except yours, on [47:06] spending these [47:07] money, they can [47:08] to get out of control, [47:11] and that's it, and that's it, [47:14] How much is in this fund? [47:15] ? Um, [47:16] I'm thinking about it. [47:18] even if it's simple [47:19] about... [47:21] Um, I have [47:23] numbers. [47:26] Well, she's considering it. [47:28] Some of you have already heard [47:29] about the project we are working on [47:30] we want to attack [47:30] existing garage, but I think Eric should [47:32] to spend time to [47:33] he you because of this [47:34] spent. So, the main [47:35] things we want [47:37] solve. [47:37] Yes. Therefore, [47:39] priority will be [47:40] door and entrance, and [47:41] make sure that they [47:42] hermetic. Past [47:46] Larry came every week. [47:47] with several members [47:48] energy [47:49] committee and spoke [47:50] about adding [47:51] additional insulation [47:52] to the walls, not to the ceiling, but [47:53] to the walls. And, perhaps, [47:57] about installation [47:58] fan, which would [48:04] cleaned the air, um, and, [48:06] in fact, made it easier [48:07] heating so that we don't [48:08] spent so much [48:09] energy. Currently we can't anymore [48:14] to insulate the ceiling [48:15] through structural [48:16] problems. But I think [48:20] that the very shell of the walls [48:21] could be strengthened [48:22] so that we don't waste [48:24] so much energy. [48:26] Yes. But we, [48:27] considering that [48:29] we spend, [48:29] we save a lot [48:31] heat that just blows [48:32] from holes in the building. [48:33] Yes. And regardless of what will happen to [48:36] this building, if [48:37] we will build a new one, this [48:39] anyway three years from [48:40] too much. [48:40] Yes. [48:41] So until then something [48:43] It has to happen. And, on my [48:45] view, in any [48:46] In this case, this area [48:47] now considered [48:48] outside our borders [48:49] opportunities to build [48:50] further. So this building [48:52] has value for us, [48:53] even with a new one [48:54] building on another [48:55] place. This is true because if [48:56] we need [48:57] remote building, [48:58] you know, remote [48:59] place, [48:59] additional storage. [49:01] Yes. I mean, [49:02] for me, regardless [49:02] from the circumstances, [49:03] real estate has [49:04] serious value. We own buildings. [49:06] I am 100%. [49:08] And that also helped. [49:09] we would reduce the size [49:10] any new [49:11] buildings, or [49:12] wrong? So we don't [49:13] need to build [49:13] some massive [49:14] design so that everything [49:15] to accommodate. We can [49:16] build small, but [49:17] then finish building. IN [49:18] there may be us [49:19] heated storage, [49:20] which you will not be [49:20] to keep things to oneself [49:21] , which are not [49:22] use every day [49:23] . IN [49:23] one of the other areas [49:24] I want to decide [49:24] electricity issue. [49:25] Yes, [49:26] we have a very hard time for [49:27] them now it [49:27] use. [49:28] Constantly disappearing [49:29] documents. [49:30] Yes, this indicates [49:31] problems. [49:32] Some problems. [49:34] So what is this we have? [49:35] figure? Um, as of [49:38] the end of December was 36 [49:39] 000, and then we, uh, [49:41] contributed 5,000 to the budget [49:43] CIP for the current year. [49:45] Probably not yet. And I don't [49:48] I know, is any of this [49:50] it came out from that time, [49:52] but this, you know, [49:53] the last digit I [49:54] had, was for December [49:55] 40-41, maybe. Yes. Unless [49:58] that something happened [49:58] spent [49:59] in advance. So [50:00] everything would just go away [50:01] regular budget [50:03] on the highway. [50:03] Yes. Nothing worked out. [50:05] from the budget to [50:05] construction, or [50:06] wrong? [50:09] I want to take a chance. [50:10] to guess how much [50:12] this could cost us [50:13] . Engineers not yet. [50:14] A lot will depend [50:15] from how much [50:16] construction work [50:17] necessary. This is expensive. [50:22] So we plan to [50:24] mid-December. [50:25] Oh, I hope so. [50:26] before, or [50:27] wrong? So the final [50:28] midterm [50:29] December, if you [50:29] do you want this [50:30] taken to the city [50:31] meeting. Right. [50:32] I, again, I don't [50:33] I think we should [50:34] need to take this out [50:35] at the town meeting. I think that's it. [50:39] just at your discretion. I think it's simple. [50:41] one of those things that [50:42] are included in our [50:43] powers regarding [50:44] expenses. We may [50:45] will have to get [50:46] competitive [50:47] offers through [50:48] amount. If she [50:48] exceeds 30,000, we have [50:50] requirement to participate in [50:51] tender. Yes. But is [50:52] We ask the voters [50:54] approve of this, it's like this [50:55] or not. You know, if we [50:58] let's post this as ours [50:59] bulletin if we [51:00] let's put this on [51:01] floor plan, uh, [51:02] but remember, uh, and [51:04] I don't remember why. [51:05] we had to do this [51:06] make. We had to put an excavator [51:09] . The city had to approve [51:11] excavator. [51:17] This is a big loan. [51:18] And this is not...We are not [51:19] we are talking about such [51:20] big expenses. No. AT, [51:21] no, no, no. [51:23] Oh, okay. [51:23] Or [51:24] are not considered [51:25] improvement of urban [51:26] garage capital [51:27] expenses? [51:28] No, they are considered. [51:30] But the question here is [51:31] so, will it be, I think it will be [51:33] at least over 75 [51:35] thousands. Maybe 200. That's [51:36] loan exhibition or [51:38] something like that. I think this is [51:41] loan because we [51:42] borrowed this 250,000 or [51:44] How many were there? [51:45] And we spent money [51:47] to separate us. [51:48] Oh, that's right. So, these [51:50] The money has arrived. I am not [51:51] I remember how much it is. [51:52] was, but [51:53] 35,000. [51:54] So we probably just [51:56] close [51:56] 35,000. [51:59] So, we need [52:00] determine the amount to do as much as possible [52:02] more work on this [52:03] scale. [52:05] 35,000 if you don't [52:06] you will find money [52:07] elsewhere, but this is what it is [52:09] in this fund. [52:10] Or, should we [52:11] get the price [52:12] execution of all this [52:13] work? Are we too? [52:16] include in your [52:17] budget, for example, [52:18] repair work that [52:19] exceed normal [52:20] to add, to [52:21] mitigate this? [52:22] will be necessary...Yes [52:23] , it will be in the budget [52:24] next year. [52:25] In the budget of the next [52:27] year, right? So you [52:28] are you trying to do this? [52:29] in the current year, [52:31] certainly, that much, [52:32] as much as we can [52:33] make. Interesting. [52:34] So, in essence, we take from [52:35] our construction [52:37] fund, [52:37] and then from what [52:38] anything else, [52:39] or maybe we have [52:40] there are still some [52:41] freedom of action or not [52:42] freedom of action, but, hmm, [52:44] reserve fund, in case there is [52:47] cheaper to do [52:48] as many jobs as possible [52:49] and just put them aside [52:50] at different stages. [52:52] We have open [52:53] things, and it's time [52:54] to resolve the issue [52:55] electricians, as well as [52:56] wall structures. [52:57] That was the question I asked. [52:58] Dave about [52:59] electricians. Did you want [53:01] would we have a full update? [53:02] I think, no, I don't think so. [53:03] what we need [53:04] full update. I think we need to [53:06] for an electrician to come [53:08] and said, "Okay, this one [53:09] section needed [53:10] to recycle". [53:10] Good. In the shield, maybe [53:12] , something like that, or us [53:13] the volume is suitable [53:14] service. I don't even know. [53:16] How many amps do we have? [53:17] for maintenance. [53:18] Service, I think it's normal. I think that on our [53:25] far walls from [53:26] shield needed [53:27] to recycle the cable- [53:28] channel. [53:28] Yes. [53:30] Leading equipment. [53:32] Yes. [53:34] Good. [53:36] So you can't [53:37] connect nothing, no [53:38] charging it. So [53:42] this renovation at the town hall, [53:44] in our opinion, it is worth [53:45] several dozen [53:46] thousands. [53:50] Perhaps, [53:51] even less, maybe [53:53] and less. [53:54] I wanted to say that [53:56] everything is worth it today [53:57] so expensive, 000. Just [54:00] tell us what it is [54:01] wetlands. [54:02] Yes. [54:05] I think you [54:06] exceeded 50. Me too [54:07] I think so, and that's why I want to worry about whether [54:10] this will cost [54:11] more expensive than what we have in [54:12] our construction [54:14] fondue, because we have [54:15] and other things, [54:16] for example, ours [54:17] the town hall needs [54:18] another fund. [54:20] Oh, right? [54:20] Yes. [54:21] Good. I thought that was it. [54:22] also in construction [54:23] fondue. This is the town hall. [54:25] My plan is to [54:26] in order to collect this [54:27] list with [54:28] prices so that you have [54:29] exact number. [54:30] Good. And maybe this [54:31] something that you...Yes. I have [54:32] I mean, I don't know. [54:33] And hire an electrician, [54:34] also give us...In [54:35] there are many of us [54:36] electricians in the city. [54:37] Yes, there is. But we have [54:38] a few good ones... [54:39] I'm not asking now. [54:40] to make a decision, but [54:41] I just [54:41] I agree. [54:42] I inform you that we will work on [54:44] list, [54:44] but we are going [54:45] attack and evaluate [54:46] cost... [54:47] Yes. And are we getting warm? [54:48] Are we fuel oil? [54:49] Propane. [54:49] Because mine [54:51] friend paid 6 dollars [54:52] per gallon. [54:52] Yes. For oil. [54:53] Yes. [54:54] No, it's propane. [54:56] Eric, could you [54:56] committee to give you [54:57] rough estimate [54:58] that, on their part [54:59] opinion, in percentage [55:00] they can do [55:02] for improvements, [55:02] for example, what are they [55:04] can achieve? [55:05] He really doesn't [55:06] called the number. Good. [55:08] Um, but there were types [55:09] settings that we [55:10] could add etc. [55:14] You know, maybe we [55:16] could do something [55:17] from this and with a few [55:18] volunteers. [55:20] I believe there is 10% [55:22] values. [55:24] You just need [55:25] know [55:26] all day, because [55:27] insulation on walls [55:28] very... [55:29] Yes. [55:30] Ventilation today- [55:31] these are targets in the wall. [55:32] Right. [55:33] Please. No, I have [55:35] I mean, I'm looking at [55:37] it. I'm just kidding. I see that there is some [55:41] profitability [55:42] investments in [55:43] heating. You know, [55:44] when Liz talks about [55:46] $6 per gallon, [55:47] so I think 10 is 15 [55:49] %. Start sharing this. [55:50] I bet that [55:51] there are many. Yes, [55:52] I would put [55:53] at least 10-12%. [55:55] Yes, I agree. [55:56] Because I have [55:56] Time is running out. [55:57] No, sorry. [55:58] Good. It's just important. [56:01] to know that if there are any [56:02] more than 30, we [56:03] need 30 [56:04] competitive [56:05] proposals, where it is [56:06] perhaps. So, if you can only get [56:09] two, okay, but in [56:10] ideals, you know, we want to see [56:12] at least three. [56:13] Ahem, [56:13] let's see what's up [56:14] This will work. [56:15] But it's like one job. [56:16] I wanted to say that we [56:17] hired two or three [56:19] , for example, if we [56:20] hired an electrician, [56:21] the price would be the same, but [56:22] someone else. So you don't [56:24] would be a company with [56:25] selling doors, was [56:26] someone else would. So [56:27] materials we would [56:28] received. This is not that. [56:29] we are hiring project [56:31] worth $75,000. [56:33] We are hiring 10. [56:34] Let's see what's up. [56:35] This will work. [56:36] Yes. Good. [56:37] Maybe for us [56:38] best to work [56:39] as one channel. [56:42] Well, no, if we do it [56:43] let's do it, you know, [56:44] electrician, and then in [56:46] we are not there [56:46] general [56:47] contractor, it can [56:48] be easier. [56:50] We don't really [56:50] we want the city [56:51] was general [56:52] contractor. Hmm, [56:54] maybe I would prefer [56:55] consider it as [56:56] peaceful option [56:57] solution, for example, [56:59] to attract small [57:00] contractors to [57:01] execution of this [57:02] work. Hmm, I don't know. [57:06] I think so, but I don't. [57:07] I like the idea that [57:08] 5000 here, 6000 here [57:09] keep it within limits [57:11] expenditure threshold, so that [57:12] avoid the tender. Hmm, [57:15] me too [57:16] like [57:16] responsibility for [57:18] what will go wrong. [57:20] It is obvious that if [57:21] you are a general [57:22] contractor, that is, someone, [57:23] who can [57:24] translate yours [57:25] risk for the performed [57:26] work and equipment, [57:27] for example, for quality [57:28] performance of work, not [57:30] the one who controls and [57:31] improves work. If [57:33] we have an electrician who [57:35] will come and do it, [57:36] if we have a volunteer, [57:37] who will come and do [57:39] this...Hmm, so from the point [57:40] vision loss [57:41] risk [57:41] responsibility, I would [57:43] preferred [57:44] general [57:44] to the contractor, but, [57:45] obviously, it can [57:47] to be more expensive than [57:48] to patch, to patch. Here [57:50] this is how we do things, like [57:51] volunteers and, um, [57:52] adhesive tape. Hmm, [57:54] so that's okay. [57:58] If that's the case, then so be it. [57:59] will be. I just want [58:00] make sure that everyone [58:02] are aware of the risks [58:03] and the consequences of such [58:04] approach, and that I would [58:05] did not support that [58:06] normally. I only [58:07] one person. Hmm, but [58:09] it looks like a repair [58:10] really important, and I appreciate the work you do. [58:13] to determine [58:14] what needs to be done. [58:17] Also, please don't [58:18] ask no one [58:19] nothing to do until [58:20] you will not get [58:21] written contract, [58:22] signed by everyone. [58:24] Hmm, so we can, uh, [58:25] to make sure that we [58:26] all on the same wavelength [58:27] about what we are talking about [58:29] we agree. IN [58:30] We are a good team. [58:31] Yes, of course. Our [58:33] The team is experienced. [58:35] Hmm, [58:36] continue if you [58:37] There is something else for you. [58:38] Sorry. IN [58:39] Is there anything else for you? [58:40] discussion? Yes, [58:43] this is also important. But [58:45] about the things you [58:47] want to have, what are we want to have... [58:49] Well, basically, yes, I am. [58:50] I mean that [58:51] Eventually, we outgrew it. [58:52] building, regardless [58:53] from its shape. Just in [58:54] we are not less [58:55] places. Uh, us [58:56] must have [58:57] possibility of safety [58:58] work with our [58:59] equipment. We are not [59:00] we can do this. [59:01] So this is the conversation that [59:02] need to be taken out [59:03] consideration of the city. This is what are we in [59:08] We live now. [59:14] So, having in [59:15] mainly two places, [59:22] Where is everything in your mouth? [59:23] OK. [59:24] Oh yes, the district. I think [59:27] that would make sense. Yes, it is. [59:29] would certainly be [59:31] the cheapest and [59:31] most accessible [59:32] the option they have. [59:37] Yes, I don't think so. [59:38] you will arise [59:39] permission problems, [59:40] which is a big question [59:42] , you know, just for [59:43] start of laying [59:44] foundation. [59:45] This may sound like [59:46] discussion of sensations [59:47] because it's a sand quarry. [59:48] Are there any concerns? [59:50] regarding wetlands [59:51] lands? [59:51] No. [59:51] Okay, okay. [59:53] No, it's such a big area. [59:55] This is such a large area. [59:56] gravel and sand. Yes. [59:59] I think we probably should [1:00:00] will have to spend [1:00:01] public hearings, [1:00:02] because it changes [1:00:04] the nature of the road and its [1:00:05] using, [1:00:06] neighbors, etc. [1:00:08] Oh, of course. So this is [1:00:09] also worth taking [1:00:10] attention, [1:00:11] but I just, you know, [1:00:12] I share ideas. This is what do we know? [1:00:17] And Dave, is there [1:00:17] potential for [1:00:18] inclusion of a new [1:00:19] town hall to this [1:00:20] plots? [1:00:22] Let's talk about this. [1:00:23] Good. Because that's what [1:00:24] about what [1:00:25] we are not going yet [1:00:26] give recommendations. [1:00:27] Doctor, [1:00:28] Carol, can you [1:00:29] include in [1:00:30] something about the protocol [1:00:31] necessity [1:00:32] public hearings? [1:00:33] Because, [1:00:36] if we really [1:00:36] we are considering March [1:00:38] as time for [1:00:38] voting for...What are we voting? [1:00:41] March... [1:00:42] We can't [1:00:43] vote for [1:00:43] bond...No, we still [1:00:44] this one hasn't gone far [1:00:45] way. [1:00:46] We are not that we don't [1:00:46] passed, or [1:00:47] wrong? So I don't think so. [1:00:48] what do we really need [1:00:49] something needs to be done [1:00:50] at the town meeting [1:00:51] of... [1:00:51] I thought we were just [1:00:52] let's raise this issue, [1:00:53] you know, like a conversation. [1:00:54] This could be possible. [1:00:55] to bring up as a conversation. [1:00:56] This may be in our [1:00:59] council report [1:01:00] directors or in [1:01:01] status report [1:01:01] highways, but [1:01:03] if we want to have [1:01:04] this place and explore [1:01:05] its as a place, it is [1:01:06] should be public [1:01:07] hearing. And then, [1:01:13] Eventually, we will move on. [1:01:14] to, you know, [1:01:15] potential [1:01:16] association with... [1:01:17] we have an idea about [1:01:20] a new garage, or [1:01:22] wrong? I mean, [1:01:23] that there is a lot between this [1:01:24] steps before we can reach [1:01:25] at this moment. [1:01:26] Yes. Good. Only [1:01:28] earthworks and [1:01:29] engineering, and [1:01:30] yes, just to know, on [1:01:31] what we really are [1:01:32] we will get a bond, [1:01:34] because we are not [1:01:36] we will be a bond, [1:01:37] but you can [1:01:38] need money [1:01:39] during the next [1:01:41] year for some design [1:01:42] , well, this is another one [1:01:43] thing, municipal [1:01:44] planning grant [1:01:45] must be paid 30 [1:01:46] October 15th, Liam or [1:01:47] On the 31st, [1:01:48] I think the 31st, [1:01:49] okay, so this can [1:01:50] be like this when we [1:01:51] were engaged in the city, [1:01:52] remember when we [1:01:53] were engaged in urban [1:01:53] building, we did [1:01:54] something from [1:01:55] municipal [1:01:55] grant for [1:01:56] planning as ours [1:01:57] first step with BIA, right? [1:01:58] They spent, um, [1:01:59] scoping study [1:02:00] works. [1:02:00] Yes. [1:02:01] So, if you do this [1:02:02] Do you want to? [1:02:02] you only get them once [1:02:04] for a year, right now [1:02:05] time to do it- [1:02:06] use this [1:02:06] municipal grant [1:02:08] on planning as [1:02:09] scoping study [1:02:10] works for the city [1:02:11] garage. [1:02:12] Um, basically, [1:02:14] this will be for Town [1:02:16] at the Sand, new. Yes, [1:02:19] new, completely new [1:02:20] construction. [1:02:21] So, Liz, I don't [1:02:22] I'm trying to stir up trouble. [1:02:24] water. But let me [1:02:27] I should continue. [1:02:32] This would mean that we want to use [1:02:34] money for something, about [1:02:36] we have not yet reported [1:02:37] city. For example, [1:02:41] if we were going to do this [1:02:42] to do, it would be great if the city [1:02:44] agreed that this is the one [1:02:45] the direction in which we want to move. [1:02:47] Now let's [1:02:48] we will spend [1:02:48] scoping study [1:02:49] works. What worries me is that we haven't reached yet [1:02:52] the moment when we, [1:02:53] probably not even [1:02:54] we know if it is already [1:02:55] decision? [1:02:56] Well, isn't it? I feel like we took [1:02:58] city ​​to our attention [1:02:59] problem. Let's, [1:03:01] Sandy. [1:03:04] Um, I suggest if [1:03:05] you are going [1:03:06] to apply for [1:03:07] planning grant, [1:03:08] take a step back and [1:03:10] to look at where in the city it can be, and [1:03:12] not to assume that this [1:03:13] will be in this place. [1:03:18] Yes, it is. [1:03:20] if nothing else, [1:03:21] um, this place is not [1:03:22] a place that is designated [1:03:23] in our city [1:03:24] plan where we want [1:03:26] place [1:03:26] municipal buildings [1:03:28] , [1:03:30] and how something [1:03:31] corresponds to the city [1:03:32] plan, is one of [1:03:33] criteria for [1:03:34] receiving [1:03:34] municipal [1:03:35] grant, [1:03:36] the main criterion. [1:03:38] Yes. So I'm curious, [1:03:40] can you have [1:03:41] just a plan [1:03:46] expenses. I mean [1:03:50] , which I wonder if there is, [1:03:52] um, momentum for [1:03:53] carrying out [1:03:53] volume research [1:03:55] works, or is there [1:03:56] opportunity for [1:03:57] cost determination [1:03:58] the building itself, the place [1:03:59] whose location is still [1:04:00] not defined. But I mean that [1:04:06] one of the advantages [1:04:07] planning grant [1:04:09] is that it includes [1:04:10] work and experts, [1:04:11] which will perform [1:04:12] part of this work, [1:04:13] to spend [1:04:13] informational [1:04:14] explanatory [1:04:15] work. I mean [1:04:16] the work you do [1:04:17] you will hear from me, [1:04:17] the work we do for this [1:04:19] public forum, [1:04:20] largely [1:04:20] performs regional [1:04:21] planning commission. [1:04:22] They spent [1:04:23] poll. They [1:04:24] organize [1:04:25] public forum. [1:04:26] So I [1:04:28] could join because [1:04:29] this is part [1:04:30] next step. To us [1:04:32] This needs to be resolved. [1:04:34] Yes, [1:04:34] but it will take some time. I think that if [1:04:37] you will apply to [1:04:38] October, there will be no grant [1:04:39] granted until spring. So [1:04:40] no, it will be sooner. IN [1:04:42] December. Good. Work [1:04:43] begins in the spring. [1:04:45] Good. [1:04:45] Work begins [1:04:46] already January 1st. [1:04:47] Good. And then you have [1:04:48] a year to complete it, [1:04:49] or two years to complete it. [1:04:51] I mean, I mean, what is this, I think 10% [1:04:54] co-financing for [1:04:55] of this grant. [1:04:56] Yes. [1:04:57] And if you can [1:04:58] receive $30,000, [1:05:00] otherwise we [1:05:00] will have to wait [1:05:01] all year long. Good. So [1:05:03] I think we really [1:05:04] it is worth using this [1:05:05] for this, if people [1:05:06] agree that this [1:05:07] worthy use. [1:05:08] Hmm, Zara, and then Matt, [1:05:10] I will say: yes, it is worthy. [1:05:11] using. And also [1:05:17] , Larry is cooking now, [1:05:18] hmm, some words to [1:05:19] we could start [1:05:20] warn the community [1:05:22] about what he does [1:05:23] improvement team [1:05:24] objects, hmm, where are we, [1:05:25] you know why, [1:05:26] stopped at the Notch, [1:05:28] because we own it and [1:05:29] other places, we [1:05:31] would have to buy [1:05:32] land, hmm, and start [1:05:33] conversation with [1:05:34] the public, hmm, and [1:05:35] keep doing [1:05:36] this is regular. So I know that Mary is now [1:05:44] is preparing something. Mette, [1:05:47] simply put how [1:05:48] city ​​representative, I think the idea of [1:05:51] that we found a place, [1:05:52] which is suitable for [1:05:53] receiving a grant for [1:05:54] planning, and we can just [1:05:56] to implement it, [1:05:57] taking into account all [1:05:58] uncertainty and [1:05:59] question here. I like it. [1:06:01] seems very [1:06:02] optimistic. [1:06:03] It seems [1:06:04] optimistic. Yes. [1:06:05] Well, [1:06:06] seems [1:06:06] optimistic, [1:06:07] probably in a bad way [1:06:08] meaning. [1:06:08] Yes. Yes. I just [1:06:10] I would like the city to [1:06:11] was able to do this year. I just [1:06:14] I don't know if I'm 100% [1:06:15] sure that [1:06:16] city ​​garage [1:06:17] need more [1:06:18] places, and I think there are [1:06:19] the general task that [1:06:21] this particular place is [1:06:22] the right place [1:06:23] for starters [1:06:24] spending money on [1:06:25] planning. [1:06:26] It seems [1:06:27] optimistic, [1:06:28] but I still think that [1:06:29] we could [1:06:30] use this [1:06:31] planning grant [1:06:32] just for [1:06:32] scoping study [1:06:33] construction, [1:06:34] regardless of whether [1:06:35] Where is it located? [1:06:36] This is great. [1:06:37] If possible, [1:06:38] I would anyway [1:06:40] started working there [1:06:41] , or [1:06:41] wrong? Yes. Um, I [1:06:42] tried [1:06:43] to call, and [1:06:44] I had to me [1:06:45] include, but unfortunately [1:06:46] , I couldn't [1:06:47] to call. Um, me too [1:06:48] I didn't do much with it, [1:06:49] but when I spent [1:06:50] research on [1:06:52] plots for [1:06:52] burial, where we do all the work [1:06:55] with lifts, uh, [1:06:56] the plot belonged to [1:06:57] city, and I don't [1:06:58] sure how many of [1:06:59] left side [1:07:00] flower shop [1:07:01] ...I don't know if it's an acre [1:07:02] or two. Is this something that [1:07:04] Can it be built? [1:07:06] They just bought this, [1:07:08] and I think they [1:07:09] bought this so that no one [1:07:10] I didn't build there. Not [1:07:11] worth talking about [1:07:15] left. [1:07:16] Good. On the other hand. [1:07:17] Yes. Because I know that [1:07:19] we own [1:07:20] property on the left [1:07:21] side of what you bought [1:07:22] Balen, but we also [1:07:23] we own through [1:07:24] road, for example, from [1:07:25] left side [1:07:26] flower shop, [1:07:27] hmm, where was it once [1:07:28] police station, and [1:07:29] you received [1:07:30] flower shop, and [1:07:31] then when we [1:07:32] conducted [1:07:32] research, there was, [1:07:33] I don't know if it's an acre or not. [1:07:35] two. I would include this, [1:07:39] but I don't know if it is [1:07:40] something for us, because in [1:07:44] you will arise [1:07:45] problems with that [1:07:46] they bought a flower garden, [1:07:47] bought warehouses [1:07:48] buildings and all that, and [1:07:50] the only way, in my opinion, get [1:07:52] access to property, [1:07:53] which belongs to the city [1:07:54] behind her, it's to pass [1:07:56] through other property, [1:07:57] to see her from [1:08:03] road, looking at [1:08:04] that mountain. You need [1:08:05] will get permission. [1:08:06] You will have to. Yes. [1:08:08] But I don't know, because [1:08:09] an acre or two will do [1:08:10] sufficient property [1:08:11] , [1:08:12] because you have to ride one's own [1:08:14] trucks. [1:08:15] Yes. Another thing I want to point out that this is [1:08:17] that Liam and I [1:08:18] today [1:08:18] met with [1:08:19] Mike Klein, and [1:08:20] when we talked about [1:08:21] municipal [1:08:21] water supply and [1:08:22] municipal [1:08:23] sewerage, this, [1:08:24] most likely, the place, [1:08:25] where we will place [1:08:25] municipal [1:08:26] sewerage [1:08:27] and housing [1:08:30] for housing, so that we have [1:08:31] there was more housing in [1:08:32] the village, right there, [1:08:33] probably will be [1:08:34] a septic tank is located. [1:08:38] Yes, Liam. Then [1:08:39] What? [1:08:42] No. Um, that is. [1:08:44] the consensus is [1:08:46] because the grant for [1:08:47] planning will be on [1:08:48] volume research [1:08:49] construction of the city [1:08:50] garage, without specifying [1:08:51] location? [1:08:54] Yes. So, if this [1:08:56] possible to determine, [1:08:58] Is it possible? Yes, [1:08:59] Sandy, [1:09:01] I would also advise you [1:09:02] look at the place [1:09:03] arrangement, [1:09:04] discuss where it is located. [1:09:06] This may be part of [1:09:07] volume determination [1:09:08] works. [1:09:09] Yes. Yes. Of course. [1:09:10] That's a good idea. So [1:09:12] let me [1:09:13] to quickly ask if there is [1:09:14] near the fire station [1:09:15] parts place? Or [1:09:16] we own the land, [1:09:17] which is enough for [1:09:18] buildings? [1:09:20] We own the land. [1:09:21] all the way to the river, [1:09:23] Where is the park? [1:09:25] behind her. [1:09:28] I'm not quoting myself, but, [1:09:29] as far as I understand, [1:09:30] there were some [1:09:31] Native American artifacts [1:09:33] . I don't think so. [1:09:36] flooding zone, [1:09:37] Eric? What do you think? [1:09:38] that lower field where [1:09:39] there are gazebos [1:09:40] ? I have never seen [1:09:41] to flood it. [1:09:43] This does not mean that it is not [1:09:44] worth remembering, [1:09:45] for example, I know that [1:09:47] the fire station is already [1:09:48] there, but with all [1:09:49] oil and others [1:09:50] things that come out of [1:09:52] our trucks, [1:09:53] next to the building, [1:09:54] but [1:09:56] I don't know if it's there. [1:09:58] will be, [1:09:59] Yes, [1:10:00] and you probably want to, [1:10:01] so that there is room [1:10:02] enough to be able to [1:10:03] was to put it there [1:10:05] sand, right? I have [1:10:06] meaning that it has [1:10:07] be [1:10:08] Eric, and I...Sorry. [1:10:10] Yes, [1:10:10] this very conversation for us [1:10:11] need to be held in [1:10:12] future. [1:10:13] Yes, [1:10:14] look at the others [1:10:15] possible places. [1:10:16] Additional small [1:10:17] area is that, [1:10:18] how far are we now [1:10:19] big. Let's [1:10:20] we will get the exact [1:10:21] information about [1:10:22] what the building will be like, [1:10:23] what size [1:10:23] room for us [1:10:24] needed for [1:10:25] placement of this [1:10:26] social [1:10:26] trucks. [1:10:30] Maybe that's where we are [1:10:31] now we will. [1:10:33] Are you going? [1:10:33] call to [1:10:34] school ever? Are you [1:10:36] were not going to [1:10:36] call us, [1:10:37] to learn about [1:10:38] tennis courts? Well, [1:10:39] let's also [1:10:40] we'll find out how long [1:10:41] we will be there because it [1:10:43] will be [1:10:43] last on the list. [1:10:44] You will talk about [1:10:45] school. [1:10:46] I spoke. [1:10:47] Yes. If you want [1:10:48] just a few minutes, [1:10:49] so that we can, then we [1:10:51] let's also talk about [1:10:52] improvement for [1:10:53] city ​​council. [1:10:55] The committee reached [1:10:55] conclusion that we are not [1:10:56] we will build [1:10:57] the nearest town hall [1:10:58] sometimes. So, we have [1:11:00] good luck in [1:11:01] implementation of projects with [1:11:02] split in this [1:11:03] buildings with the help of [1:11:04] volunteers. It [1:11:05] worked very well [1:11:06] good. People have fulfilled [1:11:08] a lot of work. Big [1:11:09] the credit goes to [1:11:10] Kevin. [1:11:11] Yes. [1:11:12] And Lowry and ours [1:11:13] a team of volunteers. THERE ARE [1:11:14] another list of things, [1:11:15] what we want to do [1:11:16] , and we can do [1:11:18] separately. If possible, I [1:11:19] I'll tell you something. I know where we found it. [1:11:23] Um, one thing I [1:11:24] talked to Liam, and I think you passed. [1:11:26] would this be a committee of [1:11:27] eligibility, this is a grant [1:11:28] Paul Brun, who [1:11:29] it would be possible [1:11:30] use for...uh, [1:11:31] this is a grant for [1:11:32] preservation [1:11:32] historical heritage. [1:11:33] These grants include [1:11:35] a lot of money, but, uh- [1:11:36] eh, they could be [1:11:37] use. Larry [1:11:38] looked at it and [1:11:39] thought: you know, this is in [1:11:40] registry, right? [1:11:41] Sandy? I think we [1:11:42] agreed, right? [1:11:43] Or [1:11:44] I thought the town hall wasn't [1:11:45] in the registry, but the garage- [1:11:46] This is a garage year. [1:11:48] I don't know. [1:11:49] I remember that it was [1:11:51] opportunity when we [1:11:52] worked with BIA, so [1:11:53] what I think they are [1:11:54] considered this [1:11:55] question. But if this [1:12:01] insulation hire [1:12:02] the lower part, because [1:12:04] this is one of the parameters [1:12:05] grant, hmm, uh, [1:12:06] is that [1:12:07] it can be [1:12:08] use for [1:12:09] insulation, and work, [1:12:10] which was not fulfilled, [1:12:12] it was, um, [1:12:12] excavation [1:12:13] outer part [1:12:15] and installation [1:12:16] insulation, hmm, what was it [1:12:17] a kind of hope [1:12:18] Lowry and volunteers, [1:12:19] that it could be [1:12:21] to do, but it's not [1:12:22] was only done [1:12:23] because of time, weather and [1:12:24] resources we will provide [1:12:26] grant application for [1:12:27] insulation, if, if [1:12:28] The stars will align and, hmmm, [1:12:29] parameters [1:12:30] will respond. [1:12:33] We will also consider [1:12:34] this is because I have [1:12:35] mind you, we can't [1:12:36] to paint this place, [1:12:37] because the tree was so rotten. [1:12:39] I don't know if you [1:12:40] understood. [1:12:40] No, we need [1:12:41] new siding. [1:12:43] Look at that one. [1:12:44] wooden frame, [1:12:45] which one are they talking about [1:12:46] they said, what was [1:12:47] fully connected with [1:12:48] tree. Everything you need to have this [1:12:50] brand, it's absolutely [1:12:51] new building, and it [1:12:52] completely wooden. [1:12:53] Yes. So, this building [1:12:55] need a new one [1:12:55] siding. [1:12:57] Yes. [1:13:00] On the spot. Yes. [1:13:01] The wood is rotten. [1:13:02] It takes a lot [1:13:03] work. Yes. [1:13:04] If you want, I'll be quick. [1:13:04] I'll run along this one. [1:13:05] buildings? I can [1:13:06] send to you [1:13:06] by email, [1:13:07] if you, [1:13:08] maybe you can send this [1:13:08] by email, [1:13:09] because we are running out [1:13:10] time. We have a VCA meeting. [1:13:11] Um, uh, or, you know, if [1:13:12] we want to add you [1:13:14] until next time [1:13:14] agenda, so that [1:13:15] discuss the city [1:13:16] town hall. That's good too, [1:13:18] if you want it for 2 [1:13:19] October. Good. I will send you a copy. [1:13:22] documents. I think [1:13:23] That's enough. They [1:13:24] did not return. [1:13:25] Okay, that sounds good. [1:13:27] IN [1:13:27] you had a question [1:13:29] about the run. [1:13:31] Oh, just if you know that Zara and I [1:13:33] always chatted about [1:13:34] that if this school [1:13:36] not used, [1:13:37] this is a great place for [1:13:38] city ​​council. [1:13:39] Yes. [1:13:40] And city offices and everything [1:13:41] such, [1:13:42] and a little space for [1:13:43] sand and trucks, [1:13:44] and [1:13:46] good. [1:13:47] But we don't know. [1:13:48] future Romney, [1:13:49] Yes? So you will call, [1:13:51] Yes? [1:13:51] Well, they won't say. [1:13:52] me, what will it be like [1:13:53] future. I am not [1:13:54] I'm worried about this. I have [1:13:55] I mean, yes. [1:13:58] I mean, we [1:13:59] could turn to [1:14:01] boss [1:14:01] management, [1:14:02] for example, do you have [1:14:03] room for [1:14:04] rent for something. They won't allow it [1:14:06] for small children [1:14:07] to run there, to carry [1:14:08] large trucks and [1:14:09] piles of sand. [1:14:10] Perhaps. [1:14:11] I think they are with this. [1:14:12] will agree. [1:14:13] This is for children [1:14:14] will like it. [1:14:17] That's right. So thank you, [1:14:20] Dave, [1:14:21] for your, um, [1:14:22] information, and we [1:14:23] impatiently [1:14:24] we will wait for [1:14:25] opportunity to read [1:14:26] more about, um, [1:14:28] city ​​hall, but I don't think we should. [1:14:29] worth...I think we should [1:14:30] still needed [1:14:31] continue [1:14:31] to talk about it and [1:14:32] discuss [1:14:33] at least that job, [1:14:34] which one is needed [1:14:34] to perform, especially [1:14:35] during the budget [1:14:36] season, right? I mean, there is [1:14:38] serious work that [1:14:39] need...I have to [1:14:39] meaning that outside [1:14:40] looks terrible, yes [1:14:41] ? [1:14:41] Robots define [1:14:42] for correction. [1:14:44] Good. Yes. Yes. [1:14:46] So yes, [1:14:47] I think that's a request. [1:14:48] will consist in the fact that [1:14:49] so that from the 5th [1:14:50] met us as [1:14:51] budget committee, [1:14:52] when we really want to [1:14:53] have numbers before [1:14:55] we will summarize, [1:14:56] Yes? [1:14:56] Oh, of course. [1:14:58] Uh, really, what [1:14:59] applies to any [1:15:00] what kind of worker [1:15:01] the point that we [1:15:02] determined, of course, [1:15:03] we will do it. [1:15:05] Good. So, Dave, [1:15:07] if you can [1:15:08] send this price list- [1:15:09] letter also to the budget [1:15:10] What is this? Budget middle sex.org. [1:15:16] question now. Good. [1:15:19] So, I want to go [1:15:21] to Sandy from the commission on [1:15:22] planning. Thank you. [1:15:23] Good evening to you, [1:15:24] guys. [1:15:26] Good. [1:15:27] Thank you. I'm just sitting. [1:15:29] there to see you, [1:15:30] The guys are from here. [1:15:31] Thank you. [1:15:32] I'm Sandy Lavin, the chairman. [1:15:34] planning commissions. [1:15:37] Um, to all the floods [1:15:38] planning commission [1:15:39] periodically [1:15:40] met with [1:15:41] the electoral council, and we [1:15:42] considered it useful to [1:15:43] the electoral council knew, [1:15:44] what we do, and [1:15:46] received your feedback from [1:15:47] about this. Were [1:15:50] floods, occurred [1:15:52] other things, and it was [1:15:53] something we haven't done in a long time [1:15:54] met you [1:15:55] everyone. Therefore, I would like to be able to [1:15:59] reconnect and [1:16:00] try [1:16:00] to meet with [1:16:01] electoral council [1:16:02] quarterly or [1:16:03] about that. I would especially like [1:16:06] meet now, [1:16:07] because the commission with [1:16:08] planning works [1:16:10] over community forum 13 [1:16:12] October. I hope [1:16:13] what are you all [1:16:14] register and [1:16:15] come to the forum. [1:16:17] This year we have [1:16:18] planning grant, [1:16:19] to consider [1:16:20] issues of both housing and, uh, resistance to [1:16:23] climate change. We have [1:16:25] There were floods in the city. IN [1:16:27] we were erosion zones, [1:16:28] especially along the Brook- [1:16:30] road. Quite likely [1:16:32] that this once [1:16:33] It will happen again. We don't know when. And what [1:16:36] we can do, [1:16:37] to protect [1:16:38] health, safety and [1:16:39] people's property, and in the future, you know, [1:16:42] zoning and [1:16:42] planning is not [1:16:43] will solve everything, but [1:16:44] can decide [1:16:45] some of these questions. AND [1:16:50] to be a little [1:16:50] proactive, [1:16:51] thinking about it and [1:16:52] combining sustainability [1:16:54] with housing, which is also [1:16:55] great need for [1:16:56] in the city. And we also heard [1:17:00] how people flooded [1:17:01] houses, or they, [1:17:02] maybe they will want to move, because [1:17:04] concerned that [1:17:05] are located like this [1:17:06] close to rivers, but [1:17:07] They have nowhere to go. [1:17:09] So, where in the city are we? [1:17:10] can think about [1:17:11] adding more housing? [1:17:14] What can we do? [1:17:15] with our rules [1:17:16] zoning, our [1:17:17] documents [1:17:18] planning to provide more [1:17:20] housing and more dense [1:17:21] development in some [1:17:22] places that [1:17:22] located closer [1:17:23] to the roads where there is less [1:17:24] probability [1:17:25] flooding and [1:17:26] blurring in [1:17:27] future. Therefore, [1:17:28] That's what this is all about. [1:17:29] directed. On the forum [1:17:31] communities will [1:17:32] experts are present, [1:17:33] which will discuss [1:17:34] housing issues. It [1:17:35] good composition, but this [1:17:37] there won't be just a bunch [1:17:38] talking heads. It will be half an hour [1:17:41] short presentations [1:17:42] so that people know which [1:17:43] The resources are there. AND [1:17:48] next hour we, [1:17:50] hmm, let's split into [1:17:51] small groups that [1:17:52] will consider, [1:17:53] in particular, Brook Road and [1:17:54] Great Brook, question [1:17:56] housing in Great Brook, and [1:17:57] you know about the risks, [1:17:58] what are there, and what we [1:17:59] Can we do something about this? [1:18:04] And then another group [1:18:05] will consider the issue [1:18:07] housing and what we can do [1:18:08] to do with this. We really want [1:18:10] get reviews [1:18:11] communities from this [1:18:12] reason and hear that [1:18:13] people think. I think [1:18:15] what is long-term [1:18:17] conversation. Hmm, but we have [1:18:19] there are, you know, some ideas [1:18:21] about what we can do [1:18:23] next year, to [1:18:24] start gradually [1:18:25] work on this. Hmm, [1:18:27] precisely for this and [1:18:28] designated forum [1:18:29] communities. I sent [1:18:33] letters or...I added [1:18:34] a copy of the flyer to [1:18:35] your package. I [1:18:39] sent a copy of that [1:18:40] flyer with order [1:18:41] daytime everyone [1:18:42] residents along [1:18:43] Brook Road. So I was [1:18:44] I'm sure they are. [1:18:45] they will know about it. Um, [1:18:48] and separately we do [1:18:49] forum posts [1:18:51] Front Porch Forum, and, um, in [1:18:52] I have an approximate [1:18:53] list of electronic [1:18:54] addresses of many people [1:18:56] in the city, not everyone. I will send it to them. IN [1:18:59] I have one too. [1:19:00] emails from [1:19:01] many people [1:19:02] along Brook Road. I am this. [1:19:03] I will do it. Um, you know, [1:19:04] everyone who tried [1:19:06] to hold a public [1:19:07] work, knows that [1:19:08] need to do this [1:19:09] a lot and, you know, [1:19:10] encourage people [1:19:11] come. We will have [1:19:12] free pizza, so [1:19:13] I hope people [1:19:14] will come hungry. [1:19:16] Um, we will also have [1:19:17] demonstration table [1:19:18] , which will show how water [1:19:20] moving down the river, and that [1:19:21] happens when in [1:19:23] you have a pinch point, and [1:19:24] Where does this water go? [1:19:25] Do you know? That's it. [1:19:26] one of those sandy ones [1:19:28] tables? Yes. They [1:19:29] simply amazing when [1:19:31] you see how much it is [1:19:32] realistic. [1:19:33] I'm glad you said that. [1:19:34] takes a lot [1:19:35] work for [1:19:35] installation, but I think it will be [1:19:37] really good. [1:19:38] Huge. He [1:19:39] huge. Show [1:19:40] people speed of movement [1:19:41] compared to [1:19:42] in volume–this is probably [1:19:43] the largest part [1:19:44] this. [1:19:44] Yes. Yes. [1:19:46] Hmm, yes. That [1:19:48] takes place in [1:19:49] October. Result [1:19:52] this we will do later [1:19:53] we will use for [1:19:54] work on new [1:19:55] zoning plans, [1:19:56] changes to the city [1:19:57] plan. Hmm, and yes, these [1:20:00] parts for the most part [1:20:02] is our final [1:20:06] product if [1:20:07] you want, and we must [1:20:08] to be completely [1:20:09] finished with it [1:20:10] almost to the end [1:20:11] year. Hmm, and this is probably [1:20:15] most of our [1:20:16] work during [1:20:17] the next 6 months- [1:20:19] year. Other work on [1:20:21] the future is [1:20:21] viewing our [1:20:22] urban plan. He [1:20:24] valid until 2030. [1:20:26] Hmm, that's what it takes [1:20:28] a certain time to put everything together. Uh-huh [1:20:31] , [1:20:33] I would like the choice [1:20:34] new place for [1:20:35] city ​​garage or [1:20:36] the city office was [1:20:37] quick update [1:20:38] urban plan, but [1:20:39] This is not true. I [1:20:40] reviewed the city [1:20:41] plan. It is in several [1:20:42] in different places. But, [1:20:44] you know, of course, this [1:20:45] can be done. It [1:20:46] requires participation [1:20:47] public and [1:20:48] communities. This is not what [1:20:49] planning commission [1:20:51] and the electoral council [1:20:51] do it yourself. [1:20:53] Um, so we're planning [1:20:54] do it after that [1:20:55] how do we end this [1:20:56] grant for [1:20:57] planning. Then, [1:20:58] we hope you have [1:20:59] there will be a grant for [1:21:00] planning a place where [1:21:01] there will be a city garage and, [1:21:03] you know, maybe [1:21:04] city ​​offices. So [1:21:05] next year we will look for a grant for [1:21:07] planning for [1:21:08] plan update [1:21:09] cities. Hmm, so this is [1:21:11] in a couple of years. Ahem, [1:21:15] and other work, on [1:21:17] which we, um, work on. [1:21:21] I shared with you [1:21:22] with all our drafts [1:21:23] worksheet [1:21:24] project. I would be happy. [1:21:26] to answer any [1:21:27] what questions about [1:21:28] this. I would like to [1:21:29] quickly tell you [1:21:30] one, some of you, [1:21:31] maybe they remember, [1:21:32] what we considered [1:21:33] demonstration [1:21:34] a project that we would [1:21:38] allocated to one [1:21:39] short month. [1:21:41] I remember that. [1:21:43] My God. [1:21:43] Where are they in Europe? [1:21:45] everywhere. [1:21:45] I know. I know. [1:21:47] And that was just for one [1:21:49] month, and it was [1:21:50] looks like plastic [1:21:51] barricades that are [1:21:52] temporary, and [1:21:53] how much is the main thing [1:21:54] morning sickness. [1:21:55] Yes. Finally, you know, [1:21:59] in two years we [1:22:00] came up with a design. [1:22:02] They came up with [1:22:03] design that [1:22:04] absolutely nothing [1:22:05] did. And we just, and [1:22:07] they forced us [1:22:08] to do a lot [1:22:09] work, so that at all [1:22:10] to do it. And the commission [1:22:11] from planning simply [1:22:12] said that it wasn't that [1:22:13] worth it. So we [1:22:14] postponed this issue. [1:22:15] I thought, what happened? [1:22:17] with this project. I [1:22:18] thought: aren't we [1:22:19] should have a sidewalk [1:22:20] this summer? [1:22:21] This should have been in the past. [1:22:22] summer. This should have been [1:22:23] this summer. So we, [1:22:24] planning commission, [1:22:26] decided to postpone [1:22:27] this is a question. [1:22:29] We hope this [1:22:30] can be included [1:22:31] to much more [1:22:33] Med- [1:22:34] River, which [1:22:34] extends from [1:22:35] Warren to Middle- [1:22:36] Sex. You know, this [1:22:40] in five years, but [1:22:41] it would be great if this [1:22:43] could help you [1:22:44] to find out about it. So [1:22:46] in [1:22:46] They have a big impulse. [1:22:47] IN [1:22:48] They have a big impulse. [1:22:50] That's where it is. Um, then [1:22:51] the only other aspect- [1:22:52] this is what from the point of view [1:22:53] budget, in our [1:22:54] the budget has always been [1:22:55] provided [1:22:56] co-financing for [1:22:57] municipal [1:22:58] planning grant, [1:22:59] and we expect that [1:23:00] someone in town wants [1:23:01] apply for [1:23:02] municipal grant [1:23:03] for planning. So, [1:23:04] we're probably doing this again [1:23:05] let's turn it on. Um, just [1:23:07] know what it is [1:23:07] usually goes for [1:23:08] budget limits of the commission [1:23:09] from planning. [1:23:10] Oh, okay. [1:23:11] Um, and [1:23:13] when will this happen, [1:23:14] Liam knows that the commission [1:23:16] planning has [1:23:17] approve [1:23:17] municipal grant. [1:23:19] So just give us [1:23:20] him, outline what it is [1:23:21] like this, and I will be happy [1:23:22] to cooperate with [1:23:23] Liam over this. [1:23:24] How often do you guys [1:23:25] Are you meeting? [1:23:26] Once a month. [1:23:27] How many [1:23:27] municipal [1:23:28] grants for [1:23:28] planning you can [1:23:29] to receive within [1:23:30] year? You know, [1:23:31] maximum two [1:23:32] active simultaneously. [1:23:33] That's why I...that's why I [1:23:35] relied on you, [1:23:36] so that you get rid of 25, because [1:23:38] We will have a grant for 26. [1:23:40] We now have 25 and 26. [1:23:41] Yes, in [1:23:42] There are 25 and 26 of us now. I think 25 [1:23:45] ends. Yes, [1:23:47] we are in the middle of 26. So far [1:23:48] we are working on 26, we can apply [1:23:51] and get 27. [1:23:52] Good. They are with more [1:23:53] will likely provide [1:23:55] him, if 25 will be [1:23:55] closed. [1:23:56] Yes, it is...Trust me. [1:23:57] Yes, we will do it. [1:24:00] I can't sign them, [1:24:01] like me. You don't need to, [1:24:03] for me to sign these [1:24:04] documents for 2025, [1:24:05] isn't that right? [1:24:06] I have no idea who [1:24:07] signs them, [1:24:08] because this [1:24:09] that website. [1:24:10] This is a complex website, [1:24:11] which is difficult [1:24:12] press the button. [1:24:14] Yes, that website. Well, [1:24:16] very. Yes. Well, well, well, [1:24:17] they definitely did [1:24:18] his best. But [1:24:19] then, it seems, [1:24:20] The plan was to prepare [1:24:22] Liam so he can [1:24:22] to be a budget employee. [1:24:23] Good. But we really [1:24:24] need to find out [1:24:25] because I think that to [1:24:26] expiration date [1:24:27] planning grant [1:24:28] for 2025? I am not... [1:24:29] culverts. [1:24:31] These were mostly [1:24:32] culverts [1:24:33] and a 5-year plan, so [1:24:34] What do I remember...Yes. I remember that I [1:24:36] had to [1:24:36] sign these [1:24:37] documents at the beginning, [1:24:38] and I did it all the time [1:24:39] wrong or something [1:24:40] like this. [1:24:40] And then you need [1:24:41] sign documents [1:24:43] on the 26th, which is here [1:24:44] like this...Okay. It [1:24:45] housing and...and [1:24:46] right, add this [1:24:47] to your to-do list [1:24:48] which we must [1:24:49] to do together We [1:24:50] could do this [1:24:51] tomorrow when I arrive. [1:24:52] We could go in and [1:24:53] just look where [1:24:54] we are here because it is [1:24:55] also requires [1:24:55] final report, or [1:24:56] Is this already done? [1:24:57] We don't know about [1:24:58] Colbert grant. No, this is [1:25:00] not done. The cat would do it. [1:25:01] did. The cat would do it. [1:25:02] did. [1:25:03] Wait, Kit, [1:25:04] I sent you... [1:25:05] So, I sent you [1:25:06] email [1:25:07] from Keith and all that. [1:25:09] He looks pretty. [1:25:10] completed. [1:25:10] He also looked [1:25:11] quite complete. [1:25:12] So Eric was going [1:25:13] ask Keith, but [1:25:14] if you talk to [1:25:14] By the time the whale was [1:25:15] you ask him, [1:25:16] will this be completed, this [1:25:17] It would be great, right? [1:25:18] wrong? Because, perhaps, [1:25:19] everything we need [1:25:20] to do, this [1:25:20] download plan [1:25:21] Culver and some other [1:25:22] a trifle from him, and [1:25:23] that's all [1:25:23] will end, and we will also get our [1:25:25] final payment, [1:25:26] apparently, [1:25:26] Yes? Yes. You don't know. [1:25:28] I don't know either, but I don't [1:25:29] I can remember. Good. [1:25:31] Yes. Good. So, Liam [1:25:32] learns from Keith, [1:25:33] What is this? We... [1:25:34] let's do this, [1:25:35] and then we too [1:25:36] Let's set you up for this. [1:25:37] system on Gears. Yes. [1:25:38] Perhaps. You already [1:25:40] Do you use Gears? I, probably work at [1:25:42] your account, [1:25:43] but I bet, [1:25:44] what can you do [1:25:45] move it to [1:25:46] your new account [1:25:47] record. [1:25:48] Now you are ours. [1:25:49] I know, but I think... [1:25:49] I will need it. [1:25:50] new account [1:25:51] record. [1:25:51] Good. OK. [1:25:53] Liz, I have one more. [1:25:54] question for Sandy. [1:25:55] So, Sandy, [1:25:56] question about chicken [1:25:57] and an egg. Average [1:25:59] sex recently [1:26:01] very good [1:26:01] tries [1:26:02] to rely on [1:26:03] politics and the like [1:26:04] things about existence [1:26:05] which we did not know. Therefore [1:26:08] , chicken and egg in relation to [1:26:09] city ​​garage and [1:26:10] potential location, and [1:26:12] It's great to have Dave here. [1:26:16] My question [1:26:17] is that [1:26:18] because we are at a very [1:26:20] early stages that we [1:26:21] everyone needs [1:26:22] remember that [1:26:23] will depend on [1:26:24] urban plan, when [1:26:25] we will move [1:26:26] go ahead, just [1:26:27] opening conversations [1:26:28] about places and [1:26:29] potential locations [1:26:30] etc. What are you up to? [1:26:34] are conditions added? Yes. [1:26:36] Of course. And that's why I think: "So, what do we [1:26:39] Are we obligated to do anything? [1:26:40] chained because of our...I [1:26:42] no...I'm not waiting, but [1:26:43] because of how our... [1:26:45] it's hard... [1:26:46] even people in the city [1:26:47] they said they wanted [1:26:48] so that their city offices [1:26:49] were in the village." [1:26:50] Yes, that's right. [1:26:50] It is written that the city [1:26:52] the garage is different [1:26:53] from city offices. [1:26:55] City garage now [1:26:56] not located in the village [1:26:57] . Therefore, I think that on [1:27:00] garages are smaller [1:27:00] restrictions or, you know, [1:27:02] borders than on urban [1:27:03] offices. But when you [1:27:06] started talking about [1:27:08] what, perhaps, this is [1:27:09] good place for [1:27:10] city ​​offices, here [1:27:11] then it will probably be [1:27:12] problem with the current [1:27:13] urban plan. [1:27:14] Good. [1:27:15] So, basically, this is [1:27:16] also applies [1:27:19] receiving grants, [1:27:20] for example, they demand from you [1:27:22] to follow your [1:27:23] urban plan, right? [1:27:24] Yes? And therefore, if we [1:27:26] decided that we wanted to [1:27:27] so that the city no longer [1:27:28] used this [1:27:29] building, us, [1:27:30] It would probably be very [1:27:31] it's hard to get a brand. [1:27:34] Um, if we said, [1:27:35] what we want to transfer [1:27:36] this, you know, to [1:27:37] city ​​garage or [1:27:38] somewhere else, [1:27:39] we could write this off [1:27:40] to the city council. I was thinking rather: [1:27:42] we know what [1:27:43] let's see, approximately [1:27:44] for the next three years, [1:27:45] from about three [1:27:47] up to five years. And if [1:27:48] our plan is not even [1:27:50] ends by 2030 [1:27:51] year, we need [1:27:52] to conduct real [1:27:53] conversations about what [1:27:55] our previous plans [1:27:56] on [1:27:57] What? Well, when...what? [1:27:58] zoning for Knox- [1:27:59] road, right? [1:28:00] Well, I don't think so. [1:28:01] city...city [1:28:01] exempt from [1:28:02] zoning, I think. [1:28:03] Oh, yes. OK. Wow. [1:28:06] It, [1:28:06] I think municipal [1:28:07] buildings. Yes. [1:28:09] Oh, well, that's convenient. Well, [1:28:11] the area is enough [1:28:12] big, [1:28:13] you just don't know...i [1:28:14] I think the residents [1:28:15] this road exactly [1:28:16] will resist. [1:28:18] Well, [1:28:19] residents of any [1:28:20] the roads where we do this [1:28:21] we want. [1:28:23] You know, I think that [1:28:24] all this speaks about [1:28:25] a broader conversation in [1:28:26] community. We need [1:28:28] more space. We are not [1:28:29] we can build on [1:28:30] swampy [1:28:30] territories where now [1:28:31] garage. [1:28:32] So let's look at this. I know, [1:28:33] that the committee of [1:28:34] suitability [1:28:34] considered this. I know, [1:28:36] what have you all been considering [1:28:37] this, but the rest of the people in [1:28:38] To the right...And that's why, [1:28:39] when Larry...that's why, [1:28:40] when Larry writes this, [1:28:41] I mean that [1:28:42] people will understand that [1:28:43] committee on [1:28:43] suitability [1:28:44] is already going [1:28:45] months and says [1:28:46] just about that. So I know it's so annoying. [1:28:48] when any [1:28:49] committee, right? You [1:28:50] come to [1:28:51] presentation, and people [1:28:52] It's like everyone is asking you [1:28:54] these questions that we already [1:28:55] found out during [1:28:56] the first month or [1:28:57] our two meetings. [1:28:59] And I...it's annoying [1:29:00] process, but yes, you [1:29:02] just need [1:29:03] respond to [1:29:03] question, so I think, Larry, you know, [1:29:06] continued monthly [1:29:07] when our committee [1:29:08] tells people that [1:29:10] we do, then this [1:29:11] will be useful from the point of [1:29:12] in terms of selling the idea "it's [1:29:13] what we need" and [1:29:15] "this is where we decided [1:29:16] "place it." [1:29:21] Yes. [1:29:23] Sandy, would you like [1:29:24] share with us [1:29:25] more information? [1:29:26] Good. Yes. [1:29:27] I am interested. [1:29:28] learn about [1:29:29] residential complex, [1:29:30] which fills the area, [1:29:31] development [1:29:31] state toolkit [1:29:32] with visualization [1:29:33] ADU samples for [1:29:34] Middle Sex. Or [1:29:35] Can you do a little? [1:29:35] tell us about it [1:29:36] ? [1:29:37] Yes, we did that. [1:29:37] a few years ago. [1:29:39] The state developed [1:29:39] toolkit. They have [1:29:41] there is a big package [1:29:42] documents, you know, [1:29:43] about housing and ADUs, and one [1:29:45] from such examples [1:29:46] was in the Middle Ages [1:29:47] Sexy. He's on Shady Real. [1:29:50] Hmm, it was there. [1:29:51] highlighted. Hmm, [1:29:53] we considered [1:29:54] development opportunity [1:29:55] this and the conduct [1:29:56] conversations about this in [1:29:57] city-wide, and we [1:29:58] as if they turned this on [1:29:59] work before this [1:30:00] planning grant, [1:30:01] and I see part [1:30:02] our work with [1:30:03] residential [1:30:03] construction, which we [1:30:04] ...So this is [1:30:05] part...Okay, [1:30:06] understood. Good, [1:30:08] steeply. Can [1:30:09] ask a question? [1:30:11] I mean, I don't [1:30:12] I know if this is relevant. [1:30:13] or not, but somehow in Galaxy [1:30:15] one guest said [1:30:16] about construction [1:30:17] housing, but I don't have anything [1:30:18] I heard it was happening. [1:30:21] It... [1:30:22] I don't know. Perhaps, [1:30:23] it would be good [1:30:24] invite Russ [1:30:25] Bennett. [1:30:26] We're actually...Oh, God. [1:30:27] He was here with us, hmm, [1:30:28] only a few months [1:30:30] so, and he for hours [1:30:31] talked about his [1:30:32] projects. Hmm, [1:30:33] but is everything going well, that is [1:30:34] nothing [1:30:35] is happening? [1:30:36] Nothing. [1:30:36] is happening. [1:30:37] No. No. [1:30:38] OK. I just [1:30:39] wanted to buy [1:30:40] real estate near [1:30:41] Center Road. [1:30:44] I mean, I think that in some [1:30:46] moment, yes, there is something there will be, but I don't know what. [1:30:49] No, I just thought, [1:30:50] when you said about [1:30:51] dwelling. [1:30:53] And another problem for [1:30:54] me with this project [1:30:55] specifically consists of [1:30:56] because he says [1:30:57] about, um, family, [1:30:58] for example, about large [1:31:00] families, at least [1:31:01] three-room families. And I think we should too. [1:31:05] needed [1:31:06] one-room [1:31:06] apartments for young people, [1:31:08] to have it available here [1:31:09] housing, and when they [1:31:10] are expanding their family [1:31:11] , they can [1:31:12] buy bigger ones [1:31:13] houses that sell [1:31:14] such [1:31:15] people like me who [1:31:16] are dying. [1:31:17] Right. [1:31:18] Well, in old age [1:31:21] our pensioners [1:31:22] can also [1:31:22] want [1:31:23] one-room [1:31:24] apartments. [1:31:26] Yes. So, in short [1:31:27] saying yes, [1:31:29] we need smaller ones, [1:31:30] than three-room ones. [1:31:31] Perhaps none of [1:31:32] families will not want to live [1:31:34] here if they [1:31:34] will close Rome. [1:31:37] Good. So, if [1:31:39] no more questions, [1:31:40] Are there any more questions? [1:31:41] Sandy regarding the commission [1:31:43] planning? Thank you for [1:31:45] all your work, [1:31:46] Sandy. I know how much [1:31:47] the time you put into this and [1:31:49] into the organization, and you [1:31:50] very, [1:31:51] Thank you. [1:31:52] are an attentive member. So [1:31:53] Thank you. [1:31:54] Okay, so I just [1:31:56] I will briefly tell you about [1:31:57] program [1:31:57] extraordinary [1:31:58] situations with [1:31:59] catchment. So, um, [1:32:03] I like that [1:32:04] this is happening, mmm, [1:32:06] emails [1:32:07] are coming now, but [1:32:08] In the end we had to [1:32:10] m-m write a letter about [1:32:11] continuation of the project [1:32:13] until November 2027 [1:32:14] as our ultimate [1:32:16] term instead of [1:32:17] November 2026. [1:32:24] So now we are in such a situation [1:32:26] condition, um, that all [1:32:27] homeowners who [1:32:28] want to participate, [1:32:29] signed their agreements [1:32:31] about land ownership. [1:32:39] There is, um, permission. So there is [1:32:43] something like that some engineering [1:32:45] firms require [1:32:46] permissions, some not, or [1:32:47] they don't charge for [1:32:48] them a fee. In any case, one of [1:32:54] owners [1:32:54] real estate, that is [1:32:55] one of them has [1:32:56] pay 200 dollars, and [1:32:58] actually the city is [1:32:59] sponsor of these [1:33:00] projects. So we [1:33:06] agreed that the city [1:33:08] carries [1:33:08] responsibility for [1:33:10] payment of this 25%, but we pay for it not with [1:33:12] own funds. We pay for it with [1:33:16] owner's funds [1:33:17] real estate. So we expect the owner [1:33:20] real estate, when [1:33:21] The time will come, and we know how much [1:33:22] we need money [1:33:24] for the project, send [1:33:25] this 25%, which the owner [1:33:26] real estate will send [1:33:27] check to the town of Middlesex. [1:33:28] City [1:33:29] will pay, and then [1:33:30] it will receive [1:33:31] compensation from [1:33:32] of the EWP project. Hmm, well, [1:33:33] Middlesex city [1:33:35] will pay all 100%, but [1:33:36] they will be reimbursed [1:33:38] 75%. Hmm, and 25% will arrive [1:33:40] from the owner of the house. [1:33:43] So, besides [1:33:43] administrative [1:33:44] costs and shipping [1:33:45] checks, city [1:33:46] actually won't have [1:33:47] no costs. Hmm, yes. [1:33:50] permit fee in [1:33:51] amount of 200 dollars. Ahem [1:33:54] , and it seems that [1:33:54] homeowner, um, [1:33:55] willing to pay this [1:33:57] fee, and from my [1:33:58] emails [1:33:59] it follows that we do not [1:34:00] we expect to continue [1:34:01] collection of several [1:34:03] permit fees of 200 [1:34:04] dollars, and then [1:34:05] expectation that [1:34:06] homeowners, you know, [1:34:07] will have such [1:34:08] unforeseen [1:34:09] costs. But in mine [1:34:10] the last one [1:34:11] email [1:34:12] it sounded like [1:34:13] homeowner [1:34:13] corresponds to this [1:34:14] collection. So, [1:34:16] assuming that this [1:34:17] will happen, and the gathering [1:34:18] will be paid, they [1:34:20] hope that, um, [1:34:21] it really is, I think, [1:34:22] um, I don't want to say, [1:34:24] fantasy, but I don't [1:34:25] I think that's it. [1:34:26] will happen this fall, [1:34:28] but, um, because [1:34:29] need to get [1:34:30] too many permissions. [1:34:32] Request for proposals, um, [1:34:33] not yet prepared, [1:34:35] but it is in ours [1:34:36] on the agenda for [1:34:37] meeting on October 5. We [1:34:39] included the item [1:34:39] agenda for, [1:34:40] um, Regional [1:34:41] planning commissions [1:34:42] Central [1:34:43] Vermont. We will prepare a request [1:34:44] proposals. Ahem, [1:34:46] and we just have time, [1:34:47] isn't that right? It's like [1:34:48] the month that you [1:34:49] need to be carried out, [1:34:50] to request a quote [1:34:51] within X days. Yes. [1:34:54] Before you can [1:34:55] accept them. And that's why I think that's it. [1:34:57] postponed if [1:34:59] we will not be great [1:35:00] snowless weather, [1:35:01] you know, until December. Ahem, [1:35:05] this means that we, [1:35:06] probably will have to [1:35:07] put it off until [1:35:08] next summer, because [1:35:09] again, how about [1:35:10] bats? Like, or [1:35:13] is it possible at all [1:35:14] to work when [1:35:15] Are bats settling in? [1:35:16] No, this work has already been done. [1:35:17] We already have it. [1:35:19] done. But I thought, [1:35:20] What is this supposed to be? [1:35:21] was done before, [1:35:22] how bats settled. [1:35:23] April 7, [1:35:24] Yes? So, but how? [1:35:25] only bats [1:35:26] are settling in, is it possible [1:35:27] still working? [1:35:28] Not that it's not on [1:35:29] root ball. You can't cut [1:35:31] tree. Tree, [1:35:32] appropriate cut [1:35:34] there should have been trees already [1:35:36] done. So no worries. [1:35:38] This only applies to [1:35:39] what I just did [1:35:40] remembered about [1:35:40] a serious crime of wood. [1:35:42] Crime because I [1:35:42] just went and [1:35:43] looked at something on [1:35:44] at the place of preparation. [1:35:45] They had to do [1:35:46] cut before it [1:35:47] will become bad. [1:35:47] Good. So we all do this. [1:35:49] done. So, all of this [1:35:50] was it done, right? [1:35:51] what, you know, don't give [1:35:51] Oh my God, there's more. [1:35:52] one tree that [1:35:53] it was necessary [1:35:54] cut down what is possible. [1:35:55] The root ball, which [1:35:56] remained, deleted. [1:35:57] Um, well, it's not a tree. [1:35:58] This is not a treehouse. It [1:36:00] as deletion. [1:36:01] But they need this [1:36:02] make. [1:36:02] Well, this...No, this [1:36:03] there was no...Oh, them [1:36:04] need to do this [1:36:05] earlier. I don't know whether [1:36:06] they need to do this [1:36:07] . Yes, we wanted that. [1:36:08] make the past [1:36:09] year, but then [1:36:10] bats knocked us down [1:36:11] confusion. So, by [1:36:13] In fact, this root [1:36:14] the lump will stop [1:36:15] every tree, and then in [1:36:16] we will be real [1:36:17] stone on this [1:36:18] root ball. All [1:36:20] What I know is that [1:36:21] engineers, I think, [1:36:22] know about this [1:36:23] root ball and [1:36:24] took it into account in any [1:36:26] what plan, [1:36:27] or [1:36:28] I don't see it in this. [1:36:29] nothing bad for [1:36:31] anyone, knowing that [1:36:32] you can apply [1:36:33] on competitive [1:36:34] offers, immediately [1:36:35] start the next one [1:36:36] summer, and in any [1:36:38] in this case you will receive [1:36:39] good turnout. I just [1:36:42] I don't think you [1:36:42] get a good one [1:36:44] turnout at this time of year. [1:36:46] They may not [1:36:47] allow you [1:36:47] to perform such [1:36:48] work, as, in my opinion, [1:36:50] last year, [1:36:51] rivers and streams, I have to believe that [1:36:53] after this moment [1:36:54] you will not be allowed [1:36:55] to perform any [1:36:56] work. [1:36:57] Well, they're all, uh, [1:36:58] communicate with each other [1:37:00] one. Uh, and so on, [1:37:02] but I agree. I am not [1:37:04] I think that's it. [1:37:05] will happen. [1:37:06] I don't give the owners [1:37:07] houses hope that this [1:37:08] will happen this winter. [1:37:10] Uh, but now that's all [1:37:11] ready for request [1:37:13] proposals. So we [1:37:14] we're going anyway [1:37:15] approve request [1:37:16] offers on [1:37:16] next meeting, [1:37:17] to consider and [1:37:18] approve it. Uh, [1:37:20] and, uh, and then we [1:37:21] let's do the next one [1:37:23] step. When we do this [1:37:24] were doing in 2024, was [1:37:26] one person who [1:37:27] submitted an application. [1:37:28] We didn't have it, and I have [1:37:29] meaning that now [1:37:30] other times. Maybe in [1:37:31] there will be a lot of us [1:37:32] more participants [1:37:33] bidding, but we have [1:37:33] one person who [1:37:34] submitted an application. So, eh [1:37:35] -eh, here's an update on [1:37:36] this. Um, we have [1:37:38] update from [1:37:38] city ​​clerk. Ahem, [1:37:40] Bridget provided us with [1:37:41] report. Um, Bridget, [1:37:42] if you don't [1:37:43] you deny, um, you [1:37:44] also sent to us [1:37:45] electronic report [1:37:46] by mail? [1:37:46] We sent. [1:37:47] Good. Because I will add [1:37:49] it to the files, and when [1:37:50] it's time to serve [1:37:52] protocol, I will have [1:37:53] another PDF file that [1:37:54] you can add to [1:37:55] protocol. [1:37:56] Good. Um, so, um, I [1:37:59] I'll tell you quickly. Ahem, [1:38:01] so, as I said, [1:38:02] written report in [1:38:03] your package. He, um [1:38:06] , incorrect. If [1:38:08] someone needs it [1:38:10] copy, I can have it [1:38:11] send. Um, uh, in [1:38:12] basically [1:38:13] focused on 3 [1:38:14] November. Hmm, but [1:38:16] returning to [1:38:17] Wait a minute, uh, [1:38:18] land records, uh, [1:38:19] continue [1:38:20] to be updated. Um, so [1:38:23] we are processing now [1:38:24] them when they [1:38:25] arrive at the office. [1:38:28] Hmm, I still have it. [1:38:29] there are problems with [1:38:31] NUMO availability by [1:38:32] link from our [1:38:33] website. Um, and therefore, [1:38:37] um, I'm working on it. [1:38:41] Um, one minute I can find [1:38:43] documents, and the next [1:38:44] —I can't, and there are two [1:38:45] individual links, and, [1:38:46] um, so I'll be there tomorrow [1:38:47] I'll talk to Cheryl from [1:38:49] about this. Of [1:38:52] elections, we have, um, [1:38:54] ballots for the state, [1:38:55] which have already been sent [1:38:56] by mail, um, or [1:38:57] are sent. Ahem, [1:38:58] deadline [1:38:59] submitting applications for [1:39:00] absentee voting—5 [1:39:02] November. Ahem, [1:39:08] next term for [1:39:09] me now—this is the term [1:39:13] submitting applications for [1:39:13] absentee voting [1:39:14] for the military and [1:39:15] civilians who [1:39:16] live in [1:39:17] across the border. So this is [1:39:18] another step than [1:39:19] just for the state. Ahem, [1:39:20] this will happen this [1:39:22] Fridays. This is the final [1:39:23] term. There will be three [1:39:25] bulletins. I turned on [1:39:26] one of each [1:39:27] ballot in a package. Ahem, [1:39:29] I just got one. [1:39:30] from school [1:39:31] ballots. They [1:39:32] will look like- [1:39:33] different. Two schools, [1:39:35] career center and [1:39:36] ballots for U32, [1:39:37] will look like- [1:39:39] different, on which there will be [1:39:40] third banner. Hmm, and, hmm [1:39:44] , warnings have [1:39:45] be placed up to 4 [1:39:47] October. Um, um, [1:39:49] the question that now [1:39:51] stands before us, [1:39:52] is what [1:39:53] will be our procedure [1:39:54] processing requests for [1:39:55] absentee voting in [1:39:57] these school [1:39:58] ballots? Um, and how are we? [1:40:00] will send them [1:40:02] people? I understood from [1:40:04] other clerks who [1:40:05] they do it on [1:40:06] request. Um, but I [1:40:08] thought we could [1:40:09] start a conversation [1:40:10] about automatic [1:40:11] mailing list, just to [1:40:13] choose one of [1:40:14] options. Um, one of [1:40:16] questions that I would like [1:40:18] to deliver today [1:40:19] in the evening, this, um, it [1:40:20] will arise on, um, [1:40:21] BCA meetings, um, or [1:40:23] can we handle [1:40:24] absentee ballots [1:40:25] earlier than, um, [1:40:26] the night before. [1:40:29] Um, and, um, I'm open. [1:40:30] for any [1:40:31] committee decision. Um, [1:40:34] meeting with the State [1:40:36] not yet a secretary [1:40:37] planned. Their [1:40:38] invited to be [1:40:39] present today [1:40:40] in the evening. Um, but they [1:40:41] really loaded, [1:40:43] um, trying [1:40:44] send all this [1:40:45] mail. So, um, [1:40:46] Sean is going [1:40:47] come back to us. [1:40:48] Another thing about which [1:40:49] spoke parentally [1:40:51] association: it was, uh- [1:40:52] e, a box for [1:40:53] the vote we [1:40:54] would place, perhaps [1:40:55] , along the wall [1:40:56] buildings so that people [1:40:57] could make a loop [1:40:58] and come here, and [1:40:59] then lower yours [1:41:01] bulletin, as if you [1:41:02] put it in [1:41:02] mailbox, and [1:41:04] just continue [1:41:05] voting. Hmm, and [1:41:07] there was a lot [1:41:08] phone tags with [1:41:09] state, and I haven't yet [1:41:10] decided on this. So, [1:41:12] if BCA today [1:41:13] Will look into this tonight. [1:41:15] question, I just [1:41:16] I will ask you. [1:41:16] consider it on [1:41:18] subject to approval. [1:41:19] If we him [1:41:20] we will get it, great. I don't think we should. [1:41:22] you need to do everything [1:41:23] it is possible that it [1:41:24] get, but, um, I think that ideally in [1:41:26] there would be a moment [1:41:27] It's very good to have this. [1:41:30] Hmm, and that's almost it. Hmm, [1:41:34] again, my [1:41:35] reports, uh, a lot [1:41:37] longer than this one. Hmm, yes. [1:41:42] some new news about [1:41:43] that, uh, Supreme [1:41:45] The court voted, uh, [1:41:46] and, uh, this is the last time [1:41:48] was it last night or [1:41:49] the day before yesterday, uh, and [1:41:50] left the block [1:41:52] new rules [1:41:52] voting by mail, e [1:41:54] -uh, exactly as it is [1:41:55] was. No requirements for [1:42:00] our envelopes, [1:42:01] no list for [1:42:02] submission, none [1:42:03] rejected ballots [1:42:04] . And, um, our [1:42:05] Attorney General [1:42:06] was a party to this [1:42:08] case, [1:42:08] so I am from [1:42:09] with pleasure [1:42:09] I will answer any [1:42:10] question. [1:42:11] Perfectly. Thank you, [1:42:12] Bridget. Um, we [1:42:13] let's discuss all this [1:42:14] regarding the elections for [1:42:15] British Council meetings [1:42:17] Colombia. Hmm, is there [1:42:19] some other, um, no [1:42:20] election-related [1:42:21] Question for Bridge? [1:42:24] Good. Thank you, Bridget. [1:42:26] Yes. Um, and we don't have any [1:42:28] treasurer's report, because [1:42:29] she is not here today [1:42:31] . Um, just quickly, [1:42:32] cemetery commission... [1:42:33] seems to be a problem [1:42:34] decided on her own [1:42:35] myself, but I think that [1:42:37] we just need [1:42:38] know about it. What, um, [1:42:39] this also happened with [1:42:40] some FEMA property, [1:42:42] which belongs to us, where in [1:42:43] there were, um, people who [1:42:45] they pitch tents, [1:42:46] um, on the territory. AND [1:42:48] exactly on FEMA territory [1:42:49] no permission; you are not [1:42:51] you can do anything [1:42:52] on FEMA property, um. AND [1:42:54] Zara and I, Zara, [1:42:55] were able to solve this [1:42:57] problem. It was [1:42:58] last summer, right? [1:42:59] Yes? And then this