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That's my son. And that's your car, his car. That's mine. I just like to use it. Well, that's my other. That's my other son who's coming up his mission. That's his car. And so, that he had a case before he got home, so that's over the morning. All right, we went to call the meeting to order sort of Midway City Council Board meeting July 21st, 2026 at 6 o'clock, and we're in the Irish Community Center.

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It is a volunteer to offer our poetry prayer and then we'll get on to the agenda.

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We're only father or brother.

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For this night we can gather, we're grateful for fresh rain that we've been receiving.

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We're grateful for our beautiful city and for our health and ability to be able to gather

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and the freedom to do so.

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So we pray that we can have clarity and understanding for the topics for town square and community

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workforce housing discussions that we can find resolutions that can serve the community

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to continue engagement, continue involvement, continue all the efforts that we put together

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in our efforts to unify all of our citizens.

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We pray for those who couldn't and aren't attending

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for their safety.

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We pray for service members,

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volunteering around the world on behalf

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of our United States and defending our freedoms.

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And for those who have served our veterans,

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bless that, we sincerely pray and ask

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in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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right. I'm excited. Item two, the consent agenda. We have the agenda for tonight meeting.

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The warrant list, minutes from July 7th Council, regular meeting.

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We include the warranty period, and we'll use the remainder of the bond and the water

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calculation, for example, the garage, located in the UID's 250 block.

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So any questions?

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Just a question on the Wittaker farm bond.

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If you are over there looking at a cement issue, do we release,

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or do we hold until,

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I don't want to question specifically

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what the bond is for?

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Yeah, the bond is for your infrastructure and subdivision,

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which would be what you were looking at.

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And that gets you with the curve.

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So I might emotionally approve the consent agenda,

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but not approve the release of the bond until the issue

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is resolved.

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So everything would be correct.

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OK, we have a motion.

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Second, I've been from Andrew.

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I go ahead and start voting.

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Andrew?

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Aye.

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Lisa?

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Aye.

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Andy?

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Aye.

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Kevin?

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It's like Kevin.

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Kevin.

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You know, Kevin?

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About 100 percent.

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Kevin, can you hear us?

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What?

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He's going to be needed.

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Actually, God, I...

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Yeah, he texted me and he said I'd go,

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hey, get me.

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Just hug him, I'm not leaving.

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I'll call you back.

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Pause while we get Kevin on the mic.

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Yeah, I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure.

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I don't know if you can hear him, yeah.

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I'm talking about that.

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I'm going to do it.

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No, this...

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I'm going to do it.

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I'm going to do it.

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I'm going to do it.

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Okay. Try to see something happening.

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No, we can't.

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This would just one more second here.

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Can you hear me out?

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Yep, yep.

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It just popped up.

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Okay, we're good.

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Wow.

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Did you hear that motion in a second?

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I can hear you guys.

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Just go clear.

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And somehow it's in my eyes.

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It was a really bad signal.

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Yes, I did it.

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Okay, so that you did a great job, right?

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You thought I, okay, did you get that right?

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Next, I had a text mic, or if you don't hear,

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but I was really important to get your input on this.

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A discussion about town square.

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Tonight isn't work meeting, so we will discuss it.

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We want ideas.

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We do have a beginning, or a starting point

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with an engineering study that was done years ago.

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and we'll discuss that as some of the other ideas.

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We've got about an hour and a half inside of it.

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It's important for us to always spend any amount of money on the square

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we need to understand what we're spending on.

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Thank you to Nancy and Drew.

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We have some money there to work with.

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And we're running out of time to spend it.

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And so we need to determine what that is.

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Thank you for the effort to get this a little more time.

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You're welcome, and we're going to take you into that and make it work itself.

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He will be sending you a revised contract within the next two weeks.

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Thank you.

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You'll have to sign that I think send it back to you.

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We'll do it immediately.

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Thank you.

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Michael Wolfe, for the presentation over to you.

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Yeah, thank you, Mayor Seidman.

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I'm members of the Council.

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I'm just a public.

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We have a week connection over here, so I hope this works for you, Kevin.

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So we're going to have a discussion tonight about the town square master plan.

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We started this process of master plan 10 square back in 2021.

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The idea was thought out that we should look at our town square and make it more of a

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gathering place for midway.

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That was written into our general plan and so we were following through on following that

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vision that was established in general plan.

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What we did was we hired a company to develop this master plan that ended up being

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IBI, which is a well-known planning organization company, does work all in the United States

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and even outside the United States, so very well-known.

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We did go through an RFP process where we interviewed multiple companies and IBI ended up being

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the one that was chosen for a number of reasons.

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We do feel good about the plan that they created and that did take two years to go through

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that process.

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It was developed in 2021 and 2022.

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We had three goals.

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The first one was design options for opportunities to enhance the use of green spaces in Hamswear.

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It's very important that all the design options us be able to accommodate all existing space

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needs for Swiss data.

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That was thought out from the very beginning as we need to need a town square to function

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for the community.

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but we also have a major event.

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We want to make sure it functions for both things.

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To increase the value of town square

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to the community by creating opportunities

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to enhance the square as a community gathering place

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is providing increased economic growth.

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So in our general plan right now,

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we talk about the town square being a gathering place

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and being really the center of town.

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And we want to have restaurants and retail

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wrapped around the town square.

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So we wanted to be the focal point.

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we have activities, concerts, anything that on the square that's going to gather

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every together, and they have opportunities to go across the street and visit

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different businesses. So that's part of our thought process. And those things have

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happened quite a bit since we even adopted the Junior Plan in 2022. It's much more

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active around town square so that vibrancy and activity has happened. And so we've

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have been very successful in that.

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Number three, Crate and Environment,

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which will provide additional pedestrian traffic

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in and around Main Street and a downtown area.

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So those are the three things that we're looking at

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as we look to redesigning to the town square.

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Some more of the background.

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As part of the process, we form this stakeholder committee

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and that included members of the Midway Boosters,

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members of the Swiss Stays Committee,

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and then also business owners in the downtown area.

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There are also some residents who are included

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in that committee.

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We get reached out to the public

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through two public open houses that were held

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and we had about 60 residents

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that were included in those meetings.

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Everybody was invited.

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We had about 60 show-up to the meetings

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and we gathered their comments.

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We're quite a few dozen comments

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We're gathered from those meetings and so that after we gathered those comments I be a created a couple two plans and

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We took those two plans to the City Council and they chose the one they like the best and when I say chose we discussed them

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We've cited which one was the best but it was never approved by the City Council. There was never a vote to set. We're gonna formally adopt this this

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master plan. We have Andy and Andrew that weren't part of that process but we

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said probably numbers that pretty well and I know I'm correct does. There were a

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couple of sticking points and we'll talk about the design, the proposed design

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for the master plan but it was never formally adopted. We tried twice if I remember

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correctly but there wasn't actually a boat that approved it.

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The grant was awarded for $600,000 if the city would spend $1,000, $1,792,000 or $1,790,000.

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I wish it was $1,000,000, right?

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And we have Nancy O'Toole, our grant writer here who's done a great job for the city.

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She secured this grant for us, but we do have some obligations with this.

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One is to spend the $1,000,000, $1,000,000, but also we have a termination date of December 15th of this year.

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So it would be a total spend of 2.3 on one point before.

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Can I interrupt that?

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It's 1.2 total.

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We have to.

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It's a 5050 match.

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So we got 600,000.

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That means we have to spend 1.2 million.

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It's going to stay away.

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That's interesting.

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That's interesting.

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I think the project is more money than I could get 50% of.

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And that's why there's that difference.

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But we can always scale it down.

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Yeah.

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It looked like from the contract.

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you know the 1.2 wasn't listed but it's because it's because of the way

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rock West and I set up the spreadsheet okay with all the things that were

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included there I'd rather be under than over so that's why I made it bigger

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oh this is what we have Nancy here tonight she can clarify exactly what we do to

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spend so that's that's bigger yeah that helps that does yeah I wanted you know

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that is panicking.

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It's either of them. Yes, it is that total spending

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food money that was spent in the design for that actual improvements to

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the square actual improvements. Now part of our match was part of the design

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cost. You can put some of that in there. I don't have the spreadsheet. I have

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this spreadsheet for the ice rate but not for the building. This is for the

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building. So I do have the spreadsheet. I wish I would have brought it. But it's

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It's mainly for, yeah, yeah, just mainly for the building.

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So I'm glad you did bring it.

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This is design.

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This is concept.

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This is where we kind of started down this path without a vision.

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This was here, but then we don't track somewhere, and we're back on track now, so.

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And it can still be a building, it can still, you can still shift the building.

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You can change these, but you have to build a building.

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And it has to be for recreation and it has to spend 1.2 million to keep the $600,000.

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What they do is they give you the $540,000 up front.

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You've had that for almost 18 months now in your bank and once we complete the project

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then I do a reimbursement and then you get your last $60,000.

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They kind of hold that 10% back to make sure that you follow through the process and that's

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what I do.

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So we need to build a building.

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We can't do anything.

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We can do any type of portables or anything like that.

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That, I asked James about that and he kind of grumbled.

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James is a really nice guy, he's the director of this grant, but he's a stickler for rules.

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And so I said to him, he said, send me your plan.

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So once you get finalized what your plan actually is, cost every, I mean complete plan.

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Send it to me and then I will send it to James and we'll probably have a meeting with the mayor

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and myself and whoever needs to be there so he can review that with us.

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We can answer the questions and then they'll approve that one.

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So they've only approved an extension of the contract right now, that's it, nothing else.

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If we want to make changes to the actual building and what I designed and everything, then

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that's another layer that we have to go through.

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What's the new date?

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We'll be six months after that day, and they're not really talking about asking for another

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extension.

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So do we need to be completed?

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Completed in the next six months. Yes, and the next year. Yeah, so June of

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2027, you scared me. Sorry. Yeah, you threw me there. I read this contract.

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It scared me. So, I'm thankful that you were able to secure that. We'll get

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after it and then see if we can get him to stop rumbling and figure out something.

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Well, if we show a plan and it's still a building, it still does recreation.

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It still holds some skate rinks, you know, and the ice skating, then it's fine.

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He just has to bring it to the, he cannot make a decision himself.

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He takes it to the board.

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They meet the first of every month and there's a board of 12 people and they're all legislators

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and other people and they scrutinize it, look at it, and then give you a check mark.

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and I'm sure they will if we do.

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Through theologians, I'm sure they will. Well, I would love to have this done in like two or three weeks so that we've got a little bit of time before that first. Yeah, because you're going to get one contract and then when you do one, once we change the design, then you're going to get a second contract that says, okay, this is the changes in your contract. The building is not this now. It is this. They're very sicklers for that. This is a lot of money. So there. Is this a single purpose building that it's only to benefit the ice.

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It's going no you can have stuff in this summertime. You can rent it out. I put I made it very broad

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I did that on purpose because I didn't know what you guys wanted. So I left it that way

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So did you say I may be able to give another extension past the June day? No, I can get um, that's a hard day

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That's a hard day. They're really sticklers about that. It'll be but I can get what we'll have to do is once we sign that contract

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That day will be fixed and then we'll have to go back to him and say okay

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These are the changes for the buildings and then that contract the next one will still show that extended date

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But then it'll also show the changes that we're making on the building. Does that make sense? Yeah, okay

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So there will be two changes and two contracts

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But we want to get this first one done and get that that date set

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Yeah, you know for the extension or within a year. Yeah, and to be able to go in and build this building by that date

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is going to be challenging. Let's get to work. Yeah, we need something approved

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quickly on it. We'll do that.

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Okay. Yeah, thank you, Nancy.

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So we're going to go over the proposed master plan.

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Now we couldn't, we can't say any action on this master plan tonight.

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The idea here is we give you a good background on what is in the master plan.

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But we'll need to put this on another agenda in order for us to approve the master plan.

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And that doesn't necessarily mean we can't move forward

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from building.

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This is just our guiding light for improvements

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on the town square helps us organize a timeline.

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And then we can start budgeting for it.

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But if we need to move forward on the building,

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we don't necessarily need to adopt this plan to do that.

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And that's a council decision to move forward on that building

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itself.

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So this is the town square master plan.

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I've got all the sheets here.

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We won't spend a lot of time on, especially

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of these worthy ones. I did include it in your in your packets. You have a chance to read everything.

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Some of the guiding principles enhance the town square as a central gathering place for Midway

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residents. Better connect to the the square to Main Street and the surrounding town center.

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Emphasize Midway's history and culture and embrace Midway's Swiss thing. Also support a year-round

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celebration of the seasons. Optimized community events for large formal events, and from large formal

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events, so Swiss days to small informal events like maybe nine in the square or concerts that we have.

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The square should maintain a feeling of being green and open. Add elements to make the square more

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functional, so benches, restrooms, yeah there's just not a lot of places to sit around the square,

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that's something we need to do a better job of. Add elements that make the square more

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more interesting experience, enhance landscaping,

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ornamental plantings, financial water features,

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add value to the town's centers around new properties,

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increase the embrace of use of the mountains,

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implement solutions that are economically responsible

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and environmentally sustainable,

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ensure all improvements can be properly maintained.

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I get our general principles for the town square

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for looking at.

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So this was the proposed master plan.

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Again, there were two options.

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this is the one that was the preferred option.

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And we're going to go over all of these different elements right here.

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So number one, this is this promenade in this area.

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Design inspired by the Swiss flagged and North South East West pedestrian promenades

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and a forerquade resembling the cross of the flagged Swiss heritage of the community.

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I think the biggest part of that's not so much the symbolism,

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but it's moving people north to south and east to west.

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We have a lot of people walking around the square right now.

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They visit businesses on the south, they go to businesses on the west,

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they go to businesses on the north.

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And they pretty much make this round.

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But there are constantly people walking through what's our parking lot right now.

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Yeah, it's never ending.

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And so I think it's important that we have good sidewalks all the way around the square.

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But being able to cross right through a beautiful town square

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is probably one of the most important things with this.

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And so the common odds are very important.

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Creates that local point, and adds for the ability

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to move through the area.

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And you'll notice the one thing that's

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out of the middle of this is a big parking area.

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We are, this plan would move parking

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to that upper right-hand corner.

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So we'd still have it, but it wouldn't be

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in the very middle of the square, which

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is probably the most important thing

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that the green area that we can have

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is right in the center of the square.

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So if there's one thing this plan does is it helps move people around the square much better, much more accessible, instead of walking through a parking lot and walking on sidewalks at 90 to returns that are only 4 feet wide.

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So that's one of the biggest things.

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So, the second number one up there, problem knots connect highlight and organize the pedestrian

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experience within the town square providing better access and circulation including loop

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perimeter walks and crosswalks in intersections and two centennial parks. So, if we have centennial

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park over here, there is a way to get over and cross over to centennial right there. We've got a nice

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bridge. It's nice to have these two green areas close together, so we want to connect them

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together better, and the promenodes help us do that.

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But if third number one, reduced pedestrian

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vehicular conflict by removing internal drive and

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replace with promenodes, which are designed to accommodate

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emergency access and event setup.

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So event setup, we're going to talk about number four right here.

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This is set up for food trucks in this area so that we will drive in

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and that we hookups here, and that will create a really nice

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situation, especially for our concerts in the park, right in the center of the town square.

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Number two, addition of more event and space along promenades, doubling

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access for online, interpretive walk, reflecting the heritage of midway community.

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So number two here, here, all the way through.

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Number three, perimeter street gateway entries to enhance visual access and draw more

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pedestrians into the town square celebrating the heritage and color with flower beds and signage.

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So really widening up the tent square, I have a directional signage, finding signage,

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things that will again allow us to really use this property more properly.

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Number four central gathering plaza at the east end of the ice ring designed to be flexible

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both the sport, food trucks, temperate fire pits, seeding, or concert stage for events.

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I'm actually going to jump forward real quick so we can look at that.

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So this is what this is here.

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You've really enhanced the experience of community gatherings.

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May I ask a question?

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I don't mean to interrupt.

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Oh yeah, go ahead.

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I've been asked a question.

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When we did win through the land and water conservation issue, Mayor, does that plan,

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that first page, conformed?

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Correct.

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That's what I thought. I wanted to make sure because we had two plans to the lady and I wanted to make sure that one that you're talking about

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Is the one that she approved correct that I apologize

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That's good thing to bring up because we were there were two. Oh, yeah, because of that

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Federal

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And we have sent this to them

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Yeah, that's what I thought. You said that. That one. Okay. And you mentioned it earlier. It's all about recreation. So that's our focus. Okay. Then I don't know where he's that was one that I was worried about.

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And that's when we started. I mean, they we've got full support. Okay. Yeah, I think two things with this is important is we're seeding on the square.

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There's just a lot of places you can sit.

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And number two is having some shaded areas too.

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We've got some large trees on this side,

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but that's about it for the terrors square.

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So having a place for people to sit, have some shade.

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And I think that's an important thing for us.

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That's the, we've got number five,

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which is iconic water feature reflecting

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pool adjacent to the central plaza

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and tradition reflect the western mountain view.

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So that's right here in the center.

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What are we going to do that?

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Yeah, a lot of cities and even, you know, you'll be a shirt, it turned off the water for you because of this prolonged drought.

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And so it's one of those things that people will put back on if they feel stronger about the water situation.

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So that to me is the lowest priority I think of this list.

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I agree. I think we end up having that. It'll be it. So it's how useless. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's just to water every day. It's really expensive. I'm glad you made it. It's not worth it.

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The only thing you've made in the other meeting about it is it's like it's only pool.

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It's sick. Exactly. I like it so many pool. Even get algae. You can get art sorts of things.

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Kids with their soap and this, you know, lotion. And it's yeah. It's sick. Expensive to maintain.

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Yeah, I have a lot of feature on the west side too.

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Yeah, there's a lot there.

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They want to get wet.

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Yeah, number six, resurfaced ice ring to minimize fall risk and encourage multipurpose year-round use.

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Games are our installation during summer months.

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Yeah, it is falling.

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Yeah, that's an issue.

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but it also has a primal slippery in this and the sauna when it gets wet.

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So one of the things we have to be careful, it's not as easy as resurfacing a cement driveway

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because of the chiller system underneath.

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The more layers you add on top, the harder it is to be to maintain the ice.

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So I think we need to dig into that a little bit more, more in the middle of that.

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both how to surface, color, notify the tubes below who got some experts on ice

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rings that are going to give us some suggestions the boosters are involved as

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well and the intent is to we have a functioning rank for the first time in probably a

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seven to ten years it's working well there's some work of these we've done on

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but the rank is with the surface of the remove,

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repaint, resurface, it will still continue to work

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and we've got experts that know how to do this.

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So we'll be getting bids and information on that.

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It was 150 grand, two years ago.

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I'm assuming that we'll go up a little bit

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so we're waiting for some quotes.

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We also have some other experts in the world

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of ice rink design and operation

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that we'll be engaging to, so.

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Okay, Mayor, I'm sorry, I can't help you.

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You did get a grant for that, so the table.

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Okay, you got a grant for that, that's an RR1,

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so you got 250,000, again, this is a 50, 50 matching.

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So you have to spend 500,000 to get that 250,

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just so you know, 28 months.

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We just signed the contract in June, so we have 28 months.

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But you do have to, it's good, 50,000.

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And that was for the chiller box, the top,

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and also to put that major sidewalk

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all the way around it, right?

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So we've got that in the budget for this, okay.

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Okay.

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Number seven, updated chiller building for the ice shrink.

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So part of that, I think, is to create a stop at Dan Bowen

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on the north end.

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Yeah, on the north end, where that shadow

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is, so I'll be able to bring the Zamboni

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off and on to the ice.

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the area to the south of it where it's certainly being stored in where it's

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been used and been affecting the header and that's been a lot of those

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different areas. So if we get the Zamboni up there coming on the ice in the

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appropriate location the header will be continuing to work with it's working

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that and we replace those headers in recent years so it's been an

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I don't wish you had a nightmare for the boosters as they've been operating this, but it's working now.

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Number eight,

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a multipurpose, a couple of these I'm going to bring it on here.

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Just above where you were at the children building.

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Oh, can't right there.

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Yeah.

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And that's right.

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The multi-purpose entertainment plus it optimized spectator line seating to embrace mountain

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views.

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This is the west.

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I leveraged ice facility for sporting structures so picture of that.

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So that's one view of it right there.

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There's

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another view of it.

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So as we've made our signs and I've talked about this a little bit, there may be other options

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for this.

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It looks like three options overall to probably could put some type of flatwork like this with

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some chain structure that would house entertainment.

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It could be some type of a stand there.

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But the one that's shown on here is in that corner,

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just north of the children building.

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Again, right here.

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Other options may be to put it down here,

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so it's facing this direction,

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or somewhere over here on this, the smaller area there.

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So in thinking of Swiss days and how all the vendors

475
00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:26,590
Are we going to be reducing the number of benders by?

476
00:29:27,970 --> 00:29:28,450
No,

477
00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:31,410
it's pretty fly high.

478
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:32,050
I don't think so.

479
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:35,530
The ribbon around the right will definitely not do it.

480
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:41,190
Some poles to work on.

481
00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:43,710
Depends on what we designed for that.

482
00:29:44,890 --> 00:29:45,790
We're going to stage there.

483
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,640
I think it makes more sense to put it down below up here.

484
00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:52,980
From the exterior.

485
00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:55,480
I don't even know what the key is.

486
00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:57,800
So you have the same angle, right?

487
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,980
So that's where you face...

488
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:03,960
So

489
00:30:08,150 --> 00:30:14,310
you're looking a little bit off of the sun in the audience, as opposed to those performing.

490
00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:24,430
I have a key goal that can be removed or moved. Yeah, there's multiple options for that.

491
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:31,830
Item number nine, which is here. So enchanted for us to highlight and protect existing row of

492
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:37,330
whatever agrees with the condition of the Andrew Path double-card and nature-blade element.

493
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:39,510
So we've got these ever greener right here.

494
00:30:40,050 --> 00:30:41,990
You can't just be the chair of the board.

495
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:42,570
Yeah.

496
00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:45,970
I don't know why I don't know the Swiss-based chair sports.

497
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:48,070
I don't know.

498
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:48,670
I'm zero, they say.

499
00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:49,490
That's the big one.

500
00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:50,110
I'm zero.

501
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:51,110
I'm zero.

502
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:52,030
Yeah, I agree.

503
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:53,470
So it's the big one.

504
00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:58,570
Back when Mayor Tann was mayor, I needed help when he was after these six, two years ago.

505
00:30:58,570 --> 00:31:05,210
So we had an arborist come in and look at this growth trees and they said, well, if you

506
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:08,790
want to keep this growth here, what you want to do is plant some new trees in between

507
00:31:08,790 --> 00:31:09,450
the older trees.

508
00:31:10,150 --> 00:31:11,530
So that's what we did back then.

509
00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:16,150
You can see these trees that are actually pretty large now in between the older trees.

510
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:22,450
So as the older trees died and we did have one die a few years ago and it was taken out, we

511
00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:24,130
have these new trees that will take their place.

512
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:28,290
It doesn't mean we need to keep them here, but some thought has been put into keeping

513
00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:30,110
the team this growth for the long term.

514
00:31:32,370 --> 00:31:33,370
We're a tree city.

515
00:31:35,390 --> 00:31:35,850
USA.

516
00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:43,090
Number 10, so that is a restroom facility to catch the midway to the office building.

517
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:46,470
So that would be in addition to our current city offices right there.

518
00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:52,230
And the reason why that would be needed is if this building is removed, which is our,

519
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:58,050
I would call that the shelter right now that has bathrooms on that west side so those

520
00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:00,230
would be replaced if that were to happen.

521
00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:04,770
So let me ask you this question, restroom for the outside, but could you add more

522
00:32:04,770 --> 00:32:08,530
restroom so that people inside could benefit from them?

523
00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:10,770
Inside the city offices?

524
00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:13,530
There's one in one.

525
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:20,010
Next more than not in the, yeah, two, three in the women's.

526
00:32:20,010 --> 00:32:26,010
I think if you're going to head on to that building, you could do that if you wanted to have some more restrooms on the inside and also

527
00:32:26,010 --> 00:32:29,050
separate ones coming from the outside, so it makes sense.

528
00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:33,470
I still don't think we should get rid of this shelter, but it's crazy.

529
00:32:35,790 --> 00:32:42,030
Number U-Leaven, which is this area right here where the existing shelter is.

530
00:32:42,490 --> 00:32:46,450
The addition of Memorial Grove near Midway City Office is providing additional shade.

531
00:32:46,450 --> 00:32:49,570
they can carry a flower garden's pathways and remember

532
00:32:49,570 --> 00:32:51,190
in keeping the figures of the past.

533
00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:56,450
And then 12, which would be right up here.

534
00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:01,270
Open air multi-purpose, the bill is a barbecue pit

535
00:33:01,270 --> 00:33:03,990
with perimeter access and mountain views

536
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:06,650
for family reunions, create events, and date, date, date, date.

537
00:33:06,790 --> 00:33:10,110
So really removing the existing shelter

538
00:33:10,110 --> 00:33:12,190
and having this new facility on the north end

539
00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:15,090
and moving the current barbecue pit to the north

540
00:33:15,090 --> 00:33:16,970
they're also getting rid of it.

541
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,050
How often are those views?

542
00:33:21,330 --> 00:33:23,990
They are views, not the pavilions.

543
00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:26,830
When I've been in the mornings usually,

544
00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:27,930
somebody on there.

545
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:28,970
I was not saying this.

546
00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:31,530
If they are everything, I use them.

547
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:34,970
So they are views, but we do have other courts in town.

548
00:33:35,550 --> 00:33:38,090
We've spent money up in Bergeo Park,

549
00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:39,630
and we've got nice courts there.

550
00:33:40,010 --> 00:33:43,050
We've also spent money over in Southville Park

551
00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:48,410
pick a whole court so we have there's other places where people can play but

552
00:33:48,410 --> 00:33:57,110
these are used I do see people often the question is do we need it do we

553
00:33:57,110 --> 00:34:01,670
need a tennis court on the town square probably not it isn't an official

554
00:34:01,670 --> 00:34:06,130
size either that's one thing is it's kind of tight so I think a lot of tennis

555
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:11,370
players use competitive they don't use these courts use it for practice

556
00:34:11,370 --> 00:34:11,910
usually.

557
00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:19,270
And then the last one, number 13, town square

558
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:23,290
lodge, repurposed the community center into destination support facility for the

559
00:34:23,290 --> 00:34:27,750
Swiss, for the town square, include public restrooms, ice skating, support

560
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:33,910
recessions, multi-purpose community space storage and maintenance. So yeah, one

561
00:34:33,910 --> 00:34:39,890
thought was to put an addition on to our current, well, this actually shows a

562
00:34:39,890 --> 00:34:41,590
completely new building.

563
00:34:43,290 --> 00:34:45,790
Another option was keeping this community

564
00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:48,770
center the way it is and just adding another building

565
00:34:48,770 --> 00:34:50,750
right outside this room to notice what it would be.

566
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:54,510
And restaurants, if I remember correctly,

567
00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:56,190
would be back-to-back to these restaurants.

568
00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:57,250
Yeah, yeah.

569
00:34:58,430 --> 00:35:01,830
And so, yeah, we looked at a number of different options.

570
00:35:01,830 --> 00:35:04,010
I think that was one of the major sticking points

571
00:35:04,010 --> 00:35:04,890
that we ran into.

572
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:09,090
We had a local architect show us some plans,

573
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:15,050
more than once, but we never got very far with those plans. We had to state

574
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:19,790
doubt one time. We had a city council take a look at the location that we'd

575
00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:24,230
never pull the trigger on actually hiring. Moving forward with that plan and then

576
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:29,910
hiring a contractor to build it. So that's kind of where we stalled out. Other

577
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:34,610
sticking points I would say we had quite a discussion on the parking and then we

578
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:38,290
also had quite a bit of discussion about removing this building and adding this

579
00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:42,710
I think those were the three main issues that I recall. Do you remember any other's Lisa?

580
00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:47,770
No, I think that's it. So, well, and cost.

581
00:35:48,990 --> 00:35:49,130
Yeah.

582
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:53,170
I mean, to do all of these things is a lot more than you want point two.

583
00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:54,630
Oh, absolutely.

584
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:55,890
There's grants out there.

585
00:35:55,890 --> 00:36:03,230
So, I mean, the bottom line is we don't have the money to do all of that anyway.

586
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:09,090
It would take quite a bit of time to do all of these improvements.

587
00:36:09,350 --> 00:36:12,470
So we got to pick and choose what's the most important to start with.

588
00:36:14,890 --> 00:36:22,510
If we agree that what it should be like, I totally agree with the mayor, I think that

589
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:32,390
the water feature we'd rather have more, I would rather have more green space than a water

590
00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:41,690
feature. But I'm speaking for myself. But there's a lot of different things. I'll just run through

591
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:45,910
these pictures. We can come back to these, but I want to show you the proposed phasing plan

592
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:54,730
that runs into budgeting issues with this. So that that's a lot of feature that IBI proposed.

593
00:36:59,610 --> 00:37:01,550
We have two.

594
00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:05,490
There are also places to park bikes, that type of thing on here.

595
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:10,290
A lot of people are using bikes nowadays, we've got all these trails connecting the center

596
00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:12,370
channel, I'll make sure people can utilize it.

597
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:24,270
And this is the enchanted course, the south of the office building.

598
00:37:24,490 --> 00:37:25,950
So those would be the restrooms over there.

599
00:37:25,950 --> 00:37:26,950
So,

600
00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:40,690
the other thing is with the building that was proposed and designed, there were bathrooms

601
00:37:41,230 --> 00:37:41,630
outside.

602
00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:50,850
So, now, if you put them back at the offices and you put the ones outside, I mean, I personally

603
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:58,570
think that's overkill of the bathrooms because they're a bathroom building attached to

604
00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:04,690
the offices and a bathroom building attached to this building is kind of to me. I don't know.

605
00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:08,890
Yeah. Just my thoughts that maybe that could be one of the other.

606
00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:17,530
It depends on what's going on. I mean, we've had more and more events. We got concerts through the summer.

607
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:23,130
We got the link to bathrooms to support people are not enough. Particularly with the events that have

608
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:37,050
How many bathrooms I thought on that, when the building was put out here, the outside entrance to the bathrooms, I thought there was a lot of stalls in those bathrooms.

609
00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:44,230
I thought they were big bathrooms. So that's my thing is, if it's two bathrooms, yeah. But if it's big bathrooms.

610
00:38:46,690 --> 00:38:52,690
I think we're on the right track in the sense that at least tracking back to a master plan,

611
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:57,570
just speaking from building and I've got clients that have more money than to do with

612
00:38:57,570 --> 00:39:03,310
that are just making it up as they go, and it just to have a plan, this is just that

613
00:39:03,310 --> 00:39:09,330
perfect example and I'm interjecting now because we say, well, we need bathrooms because

614
00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:14,470
growth, well, they can be on an addition here, they can be here, they can be both, but I think

615
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:20,310
if we really are going, we can go down a road to understand how this phases, then we can,

616
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:25,510
we can really have a plan that makes sense instead of peace-mealing it and hydrating it.

617
00:39:25,950 --> 00:39:27,710
That's exactly where we're going.

618
00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:29,030
So go back on, please.

619
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:29,950
Good job.

620
00:39:30,570 --> 00:39:37,810
So the current building is right here somewhere, and the idea you're going to have to go is to

621
00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:43,810
this here and not connected. This is completely integrated into the current roof.

622
00:39:44,570 --> 00:39:51,390
The other one was separate. It created an ILA, an alley here, which just doesn't make any sense at all.

623
00:39:52,270 --> 00:39:59,450
And so this building can be enhanced. Right now, it's a church. It feels like a church. It needs to

624
00:39:59,450 --> 00:40:02,930
feel like a community building, a community center. So part of this,

625
00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:09,890
It's amazing in addition to having what we need for the race is to have a useful building

626
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:10,190
here.

627
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:11,410
And I knew the sod.

628
00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:18,030
We actually kind of started, this whole thing kind of started because when I was over

629
00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:25,570
the buildings and we had a sod that was kind of like a drawing that Michael had in his office,

630
00:40:25,570 --> 00:40:31,010
that was going to be put on the front to make it look more like a community center.

631
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:34,990
And then it just kind of morphed in grew, and here we are.

632
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:37,730
Yeah, it's a needs more than a face left out.

633
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:42,710
And we have a basement that is not utilized by the city.

634
00:40:43,050 --> 00:40:48,430
It's used by other entities that go in about a week.

635
00:40:49,390 --> 00:40:51,230
So all the stuff in the basement will come out

636
00:40:51,230 --> 00:40:53,070
when those are using it.

637
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:58,570
Down here, there's eight rooms and chairs are reused.

638
00:40:59,650 --> 00:41:03,010
Yes, so this slide talks about the parking modification.

639
00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:08,150
So moving that central parking area over to that northeaster corner, that you can see

640
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:08,490
up here.

641
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:10,610
So currently we've got four seats.

642
00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:11,950
So the city office is building that.

643
00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:12,730
Yes, the city office.

644
00:41:12,930 --> 00:41:14,530
So this is where it's on the left.

645
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:24,050
So I feel like just I'm filling in for you guys in this particular case where we really

646
00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:33,250
do need parking in right here that the handicap accessible doors were moved out of here parking

647
00:41:33,250 --> 00:41:40,150
is out of here right now but I think this should go unwrap around in an L. I know it's beautiful

648
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:46,350
and it's got flowers or whatever but we need parking so bad and we're taking all of this out of here

649
00:41:46,350 --> 00:41:53,730
I think that the responsible thing to do is to study who really needs parking is to take that

650
00:41:53,730 --> 00:41:59,430
and go to here and have it be around and people can come into the handicap

651
00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:05,390
parking and go right into the building on the handicap accessible doors but with

652
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:11,450
this and this it will really I think it really helps our parking issue so there

653
00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:15,770
are a couple of things to think about with this and those are good points what

654
00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:22,150
is our existing stalls at that 46 internal studies that are 102 on the out the

655
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:24,230
the perimeter of the dam square.

656
00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:26,550
With this proposal, we would reduce

657
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:29,030
and installs dam from 46 to 25.

658
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:31,470
And then for 100 and 2 dam to 80.

659
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:33,790
So we lose some, but we also have some other options

660
00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:34,750
that we've talked about in the past

661
00:42:34,750 --> 00:42:36,450
of creating more parking in Centennial.

662
00:42:37,130 --> 00:42:38,150
And that's quite a few stalls.

663
00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:39,570
That's not too far away.

664
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:44,430
But there also is an option with the end dam square

665
00:42:45,630 --> 00:42:47,950
of maybe putting some parking in this area.

666
00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:49,330
If we don't feel like that can be,

667
00:42:49,330 --> 00:42:54,970
is this area is not so useful we could put another parking area there and

668
00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:58,470
that would make it so we don't actually lose any stalls. For south of the

669
00:42:59,570 --> 00:43:03,390
proposed restrooms there number 10 and then leave that multiple of those

670
00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:08,710
multiple of the other area right there. So we've been here saying take the shelter

671
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:14,090
out. Yeah I'm like taking the shelter out great. And we're moving the idea here

672
00:43:14,090 --> 00:43:16,070
to move it up, it's number 12 this year.

673
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:20,210
Not moving it, it's taking it out and building

674
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:21,690
just a picnic to it.

675
00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:22,930
So then I do it this year.

676
00:43:22,990 --> 00:43:23,930
There's two totally different things.

677
00:43:24,350 --> 00:43:27,150
Are you envisioning then the food going along 100 North?

678
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:29,770
And have vendors along 100 West?

679
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:31,950
Move for what?

680
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:32,990
Swiss Day, sorry.

681
00:43:33,790 --> 00:43:34,010
Come on.

682
00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:35,290
You use that same marionette.

683
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:36,430
Yeah, you can probably see it all.

684
00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:39,170
But then your taco booth is up here

685
00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:41,130
and all of your other food is down there.

686
00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:45,610
and your tractor trailers or also that won't change.

687
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:47,750
Maybe put it in a tent into the taco booth

688
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:48,750
or something like that,

689
00:43:49,050 --> 00:43:50,070
instead of using the lanterns.

690
00:43:50,350 --> 00:43:52,970
Gas, intense, and the refrigerator.

691
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:58,850
And you've got all the turquid, the memorial for it

692
00:43:58,850 --> 00:44:00,370
is the way they're coming in there.

693
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:00,930
I don't know.

694
00:44:01,130 --> 00:44:01,690
I just don't know.

695
00:44:01,690 --> 00:44:02,150
It's the right one.

696
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:03,870
I don't like it.

697
00:44:04,270 --> 00:44:06,030
Is that in front of the city office

698
00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:07,030
that force you?

699
00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:07,890
Is that a driveway?

700
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:10,170
That's the sidewalk.

701
00:44:10,170 --> 00:44:16,610
Yeah, I think it's really pedestrian walkway. It's not set up for cars to drive up to it. It's what I understand with it

702
00:44:16,610 --> 00:44:19,130
I don't think isn't it just what's there now?

703
00:44:19,330 --> 00:44:24,690
No, that's there. Yeah, that would wall we do. We have one walk side up up the middle right now.

704
00:44:25,150 --> 00:44:28,230
Oh, yeah, you made it a horseshoe. You probably could put some handicap

705
00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:30,130
closer to the building

706
00:44:30,970 --> 00:44:35,170
Yeah, well, well, but it's just sidewalk. So you'd have to walk

707
00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:40,810
I'm going to change the sidewalk to a driveway to give you the same feel.

708
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:45,570
I just think that we're cutting out, we're taking all of the parking out you've got.

709
00:44:46,310 --> 00:44:50,110
In the winter that fills up with the skating rink you've got.

710
00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:57,950
And I just think that to cut as the city, we're telling this isn't everybody else, we need

711
00:44:57,950 --> 00:44:59,890
parking but we're going to

712
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,960
That's our, I just think that. Well, it also looks like we're bringing mainstream to it and you're taking it more. Oh, that's, that's already there. But yeah, that's the, oh, not number three. That were the number three is. Yeah, I think you probably lose two or three parking spots there. If it, if it's green there. I mean, we do pick up some stalls in the asphalt right there on the road. What about parking on the north?

713
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:35,980
talking about mainstream. Yeah, we can add parking up here. That's again, we've looked at that recently. There's quite a few stalls over

714
00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:39,800
around some places. You know, people's on park there and they're going to be.

715
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Will the parking be eliminated on 100 North? We should be able to have, I mean, we can have as much parking.

716
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,360
We have to have an entryway here, another one over here, but we could line it up all the way through here if we wanted to.

717
00:45:54,360 --> 00:46:00,360
Well, what we need to do is encourage employees, not city employees, but other employees taking

718
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,560
out those spaces for eight hours a day.

719
00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:06,340
The first north is filled up.

720
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,060
A couple of years ago, that wasn't used to go on.

721
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,620
Yeah.

722
00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:11,260
And it's used very heavily now.

723
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:11,680
No.

724
00:46:15,460 --> 00:46:22,740
So moving forward to just to finish talking about the plan, we'll look at the facing and then

725
00:46:22,740 --> 00:46:24,620
we can go back and talk about all these different items,

726
00:46:24,860 --> 00:46:27,200
but I was proposed for the phasing plan.

727
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,020
So phase one, I'm going to put in the south promenade right here.

728
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:38,240
And then also the main street's gateway, which is right here,

729
00:46:38,820 --> 00:46:40,780
and then the ice ring plaza resurfacing.

730
00:46:41,020 --> 00:46:43,420
So, and that's what they were proposed for phase one.

731
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,740
And some of these things have to happen in order,

732
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,020
for instance, moving the parking.

733
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,820
So, phase two would be moving the parking to this spot, and that would allow us to move

734
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:58,900
on to phase three, which would be to continue that promenade all the way to the North, but

735
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,840
also part of phase two is building the new for the old game.

736
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,520
Again, phase three was the rest of the promenade, and water features included in there, but

737
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,340
they could be taken out.

738
00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:19,000
Phase four, east promenade, memorial garter, it's an multipurpose and then patio, so the

739
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:27,900
And then the last phase, the last promodot over in this area, and the town square

740
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:32,860
lodge and enchanted for us. So that's what was proposed. Again, this could be

741
00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:37,160
switched up. We've discussed all those different items. We can do what makes sense

742
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,860
for moving forward and then also seeing how much we can put towards this each year

743
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:47,460
in our budget. Again, it's going to take a while to build all of this. It's it's

744
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:54,280
expensive as for sure well qualifying Nancy's point about the grant going to a

745
00:47:54,280 --> 00:48:01,780
building there's not a building until phase five or so how does that yeah Michael

746
00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:06,400
talked to us about how that what does that have to do with phase one or phase two

747
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,800
that are that are walkways and resurfacing a rank in not a building yes so adopting

748
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,160
the master plan gives us some framework for moving forward and so that helps us

749
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,820
to be able to budget and plan but we need to spend money on that building now and so we're

750
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:28,000
going to jump ahead and start on that building and hopefully adopt a master plan that we'll

751
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,180
follow as we continue moving forward but as of right now that building needs to happen you know

752
00:48:33,180 --> 00:48:37,380
before phase one basically that's the number one item so we always have my stuff on the two.

753
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:44,520
Right so I guess what I'm getting at is this is a nice talking point from maybe 2000

754
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:51,520
in 2021, but for 2026 right now with money in hand, that's not a thing.

755
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Yeah, yeah, this is going to have to change that for sure.

756
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:55,760
Yeah, that's why we're here.

757
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:57,480
Just one thing to think about.

758
00:48:57,580 --> 00:48:58,580
I just want to throw this out.

759
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:00,560
I can't help it because I got to tell you about the grants.

760
00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:03,960
But U.D. opened up a grant.

761
00:49:04,060 --> 00:49:06,900
It's called the Health Wellness Something Something.

762
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:10,300
And it was through the Department of the Health and Services.

763
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,880
And what they did is they gave the money to U.D.

764
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,860
So this year we got 11 million and we got another 11 million for the next five years.

765
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,920
No match and it has stuff in there that it's just amazing.

766
00:49:24,140 --> 00:49:26,320
We could do half this project with this grant.

767
00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:31,440
You have to apply it each year and it's only good for rural counties.

768
00:49:31,860 --> 00:49:36,280
So Utah counties out, Ubers out, Salt Lake is out, and Twilla is out.

769
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,460
So that gives us some playing field for the rural communities for us to apply for.

770
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:43,980
and then they made it no match because a lot of us don't have money in the

771
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:47,480
world communities. So they're allowing playground equipment, they're

772
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,700
allowing soft trails, hard trails, parking lots. I mean it's amazing. I gave you

773
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:57,880
the list. And this year we did a lot. Wes and I got about $700,000. We're going to

774
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,380
try and work on that and get that set in. But next year we really do need to think

775
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:05,360
about this because there are things that we can do on here with each phase with

776
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,920
the next five years and get the least a good portion of this funded by the U

777
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:19,020
This year was maintenance, sidewalks, resurfacing, so it plays in well.

778
00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:21,780
It plays perfectly into this.

779
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:23,680
This is a fucking gift.

780
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,440
It's Christmas for now.

781
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,140
Christmas for me.

782
00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:29,260
It's like no matching funds.

783
00:50:30,140 --> 00:50:32,200
And it's going to be a very simple grant.

784
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,280
They don't want to make it hard.

785
00:50:33,660 --> 00:50:35,060
They want it for the rural communities.

786
00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:37,860
And it's 11 million per year for five years.

787
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,720
That's a lot of money.

788
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:43,240
Especially when there's no now they may change the match down the road to make the money stretch more

789
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:48,100
But right now the way the federal government has it is that they've given it to them. This is the way it's set up

790
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:53,940
Just so you know something to think about when we start planning for these phases and what we want to apply for

791
00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:59,720
When do you hear about that one? I haven't submitted it yet. I'm gonna get everything in this week

792
00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:05,000
And then we'll know and then they're gonna kind of set up the program in the next four or five months

793
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,460
We meet with you Dawes in September. That'll be a good time to talk to them about that.

794
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,020
Okay.

795
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:15,060
But I think that's something that we really do need to look at. There's a lot of grants we can give some money.

796
00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:17,140
At least, cut your funding in half.

797
00:51:17,740 --> 00:51:25,320
Oh, it's great. We appreciate that effort too. We, Wes and I, did sit down and go through two approaches.

798
00:51:25,620 --> 00:51:29,000
One is maintenance for this next year. One is when this happens.

799
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:29,780
Yep.

800
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,700
And then the next four years after that.

801
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,240
Excellent.

802
00:51:34,780 --> 00:51:39,380
We need to get through the next year, so we've got to figure out how to utilize what's

803
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:40,520
there so we don't lose the money.

804
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,580
Additionally, you don't want to ask for money and then not use it.

805
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:45,940
That's not good in Nancy's world.

806
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:55,200
And so we'll find a way between the rate and other improvements that makes no sense to move

807
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,540
forward on this without a plan.

808
00:51:57,220 --> 00:52:03,900
And so that's that's the intent here and then so think about this go away with some ideas

809
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,180
You know we can we can pull another hour out of a meeting and have you come with

810
00:52:10,660 --> 00:52:12,200
YouTube never seen this before

811
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:21,240
So going back to the building and needs to be filled we don't have plans. We don't have anything

812
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:26,100
We have well, yes, but no work. We don't have a copy of a plan

813
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,600
Yeah, there have been plans developed. We've been involved for those plans. We don't have

814
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:37,780
any plans. We have to go for it. Yes. We've never got anything, so we never paid the bill,

815
00:52:37,940 --> 00:52:42,520
so we'll make it, but it doesn't make sense. We didn't get what we asked for. Right? We've

816
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:48,920
been in the town on the donkey over a number. And all these warm and fuzzy ideas, but ultimately,

817
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:54,900
we need a building that's going to fit into this use meeting, not just the ice ring, but

818
00:52:54,900 --> 00:53:02,460
around the need. Bathrooms. So starting with a plan for the square makes total sense and then

819
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:10,460
augment, fix, design something that works within the funding tools that we have.

820
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:18,800
And that's what worries me if we have 11 months before the grant runs out and we don't have anything

821
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:28,620
conceptually started. It's not realistic to have something design and built in that deadline.

822
00:53:28,940 --> 00:53:36,020
Possibly. The range, the killer building, the band mound, the resurfacing, a lot of that,

823
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:44,000
which is part of it. But yeah, how we connect this, remodel this. We've got to figure that out.

824
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:51,500
It would make sense to put the building and the ice skating rink is one contractor, one

825
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:54,480
mobilization, one contractor, do both at the same time.

826
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,140
That's what we planned last time with that bush.

827
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,440
They were going to do the building, or I think was Russ Watson, who's been due to building

828
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,840
and BD Bush was going to do the ice skating rink.

829
00:54:05,220 --> 00:54:05,700
I think that was it.

830
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:06,940
Wasn't that the last time that we...

831
00:54:06,940 --> 00:54:07,820
I know Russ for sure.

832
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:09,420
He was the one we got lined up for.

833
00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:10,060
I don't remember.

834
00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:10,900
I can't remember.

835
00:54:11,380 --> 00:54:11,580
I'm really excited.

836
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,360
I know.

837
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,560
Yeah, they were trying to do both of them at the same time.

838
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,760
was still on board to help yeah that's excellent he was ready last year I

839
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:25,280
actually think you have a really good point but there are a lot of people who

840
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:31,260
have been watching this and ready to jump in if we get something out works the

841
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:38,400
problem is yeah the problem is is that every time we ask it it just kind of

842
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,840
fell flat because it wasn't what we needed well so the process we started with this

843
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:49,000
small building. We got input from the boosters and the idea of a rather

844
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,320
range that makes some sense. But then we didn't have much year-round use and then

845
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,400
the thing scaled up to a one point. So you wanted a $1.5 million build and it was

846
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:04,460
almost two point. I think of the students. I thought it was 1.3. Maybe it was 1.3. I

847
00:55:04,460 --> 00:55:07,260
think it was 1.3. Because that's why I was calculating in my head.

848
00:55:12,580 --> 00:55:13,820
It's gone

849
00:55:13,820 --> 00:55:20,820
angles. The range fixes it's critical it's important and we have some time to do what we want to do

850
00:55:20,820 --> 00:55:26,360
most of it. The second part now below because we can use the trailers for another year.

851
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,020
I got to

852
00:55:29,020 --> 00:55:35,600
commit but from boosters. Yes, but if you do that we're not going to have time to get the building done

853
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,100
before to get the money. We use the trailers and start another building or

854
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,860
Okay, so you're not putting the trailers right there. You're just going to use them in the trailers that we've been told could be on the north side.

855
00:55:47,980 --> 00:55:49,460
Where? Yeah, there's concrete.

856
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,520
So there's a few issues with the with the rain. One is the spalling.

857
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:58,660
It's working. We've got to spend the time on the trailer building. We've got to extend it.

858
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:05,620
If you look out there, you've got to open the bow. We got birds and rats and whatever else is in there, we'll stop them from coming.

859
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:12,480
the cellar will be fine for a while. We won't bother with the header at all by

860
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:17,960
bringing the Zamboni off the north and that's fixed. So then we move forward

861
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:24,860
with temporary trailers. Hopefully we can get a blessing and allow us to buy

862
00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:30,880
two new trailers with an observation deck on top and I would think so. I would think

863
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,100
so with that money and then you can just put the trailers in and be done and do it

864
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:39,140
same time with our ice rating week. I think if you plan directly and give me a nice proposal

865
00:56:39,140 --> 00:56:44,300
we will go before James and talk with him because it is a huge change or what we applied for.

866
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:49,180
It is currently we're putting things here, right? Right. They could go here temporarily,

867
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:55,600
right? But if we've got this band here it makes it much easier for the for the rent to operate.

868
00:56:55,860 --> 00:57:00,060
At the same time, if this is here and that's there we can start whatever design

869
00:57:00,060 --> 00:57:05,420
with these new trailers. And they're not going to look like trailers. They're going to be nice.

870
00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:11,740
So it's not going to be a double-white model. When you're talking about those bands,

871
00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:17,160
are we taking the bands all the way to second-west so people can cross and do in crosswalks?

872
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,440
But we're only going to the... Yeah, a trail. This is for the rink, yeah.

873
00:57:22,780 --> 00:57:28,940
Okay. But they're not nice bands. They're just concrete. When you said

874
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:32,320
Ribbon, you said, maybe I heard it.

875
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Concrete.

876
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:37,320
Jungle.

877
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:46,380
But surfacing that and hearing that those paths that they need to use for this

878
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:51,460
skating ring then can be put down and if Эngson's better.

879
00:57:51,620 --> 00:57:55,400
And Majors and what we need to have activities there.

880
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,620
We've got to find a solution.

881
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,520
George Trump, I get to work on something.

882
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,440
I'm trying to capitalize on what we have.

883
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,820
But it needs to be part of a bigger plan.

884
00:58:09,260 --> 00:58:12,200
Otherwise, we're doing the same game we did to your program again.

885
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,960
And we're not going to do that.

886
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:14,680
Thank God.

887
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:16,520
Yeah.

888
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,620
So what we'll do is, again, this is kind of new to our council members,

889
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,880
is we'll put this on a future regular city council agenda.

890
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,420
But we need some thoughts on this.

891
00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:31,640
we can come up with a phasing plan to make sense.

892
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,420
Also, we need to change the overall

893
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:42,260
master plan. We need to know about that sooner than later, but we'll plan in August, at

894
00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:44,200
least one of the time meetings we've got in August.

895
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:50,740
Yes, we leave the second meeting in August then. So, is there anything that we haven't covered?

896
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,780
I've got your list. I'm well aware of it. Trying to represent without the problem we did last year,

897
00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:01,680
we focused too much on the ring because there was so much that needed to be done that we forgot

898
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:07,520
about the rest of the square. So we're going to take a bigger look at the whole square

899
00:59:08,260 --> 00:59:09,940
understanding what boosters needs.

900
00:59:10,220 --> 00:59:13,080
No, we don't forget, just a minute or two.

901
00:59:13,580 --> 00:59:16,960
Well, it didn't happen there. It didn't happen there.

902
00:59:17,140 --> 00:59:23,300
The only other thing that I just forgot about this is in the $600,000 we did set aside $40,000

903
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:26,920
to upgrade to Wi-Fi outside the buildings.

904
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,460
JC and I talked about this and him and I worked through it

905
00:59:30,460 --> 00:59:33,740
because we have so many problems with readers and stuff like that

906
00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:35,640
and you have so many problems with your Wi-Fi.

907
00:59:35,820 --> 00:59:38,660
When I included the building, the building was 560

908
00:59:39,260 --> 00:59:41,820
and the Wi-Fi upgrade was 40,000.

909
00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:43,260
It just came to my head, sorry.

910
00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:45,740
It just came, 40,000 is for an upgrade

911
00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:47,400
and that's something that you do need outside.

912
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:49,160
So think about that one.

913
00:59:49,180 --> 00:59:51,620
Where we've found some money elsewhere.

914
00:59:51,620 --> 00:59:55,960
excellent as well good as good because I don't know if the foreigner will be

915
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,880
about to know any we're already we're in the middle of that so that

916
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,100
I think we'll be the spend and then we can use this as a match. Okay. Because it's going to be the entire square. That'd be great. Including the buildings, including the rank. Okay. We don't have this nonsense anymore. It's ridiculous. We can't make it. Yeah. That's what JC and I knew, you know, three years ago. I was specced out. Jeff Curry got involved. JC got involved. They came out and did, you know, there was a boy, Wonder Boy. Where do we have say but where we're not? And we know now.

917
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,660
and use them to contact two days ago to get them back.

918
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,840
Okay, we'll keep track of the funds because then we can use that as

919
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,040
national funds for them. Yeah, go really.

920
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:38,500
Good.

921
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,480
I should tell you not that.

922
01:00:42,060 --> 01:00:46,380
To change our ask regarding the grant, we need some documents that will show

923
01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:48,820
the new buildings that we want to equip the staff.

924
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,580
Design, I mean, you know, if it's, you're getting a design something that I need the

925
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:53,960
engineering.

926
01:00:54,260 --> 01:00:57,140
If you're just going to put through two areas and put it facing around it,

927
01:00:57,140 --> 01:00:59,740
and tie in to sewer system, you don't have bathrooms.

928
01:01:00,140 --> 01:01:01,660
I just need something with details.

929
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,740
We'll have that to you by the first.

930
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:05,600
But give it a couple of weeks.

931
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:10,180
Let's get that first contract signed and get that settled.

932
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,960
And I already told James and we're going to be changing the building a little bit.

933
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:17,500
He's like, okay, let's hold off and do this first.

934
01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:19,800
Then you and I will meet with him.

935
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:21,740
That's we'll have to do that because you're in the mayor.

936
01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:23,840
And then we can change that.

937
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,680
Okay.

938
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,660
The intent here is take back what's in the packet.

939
01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:28,920
Look at it.

940
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,880
You've seen it a lot more than you two have, Kevin, and JC are aware of this as well

941
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,320
from the things we went through.

942
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,240
The goal is to come up with a plan, and some of these things, they're not negotiable.

943
01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:43,440
We're going to have a rink.

944
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,460
That's not going anywhere.

945
01:01:44,860 --> 01:01:48,780
We need buildings that are functional, which means they're going to be, this building is

946
01:01:48,780 --> 01:01:52,080
not historical in the way that you don't know this.

947
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,600
We're not much of that thing at all, we're going to...

948
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,680
No, but I want to be able to bring the velvet, is this?

949
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,160
We have the velvet.

950
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,780
Hamlet is going to be wrong, too.

951
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,200
Yes.

952
01:02:03,740 --> 01:02:09,640
Can I ask you a question, Craig, you've talked about, so your thought is instead of putting

953
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:15,480
the building and adding it to this, that you just bring in two trailers and put a facade

954
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,800
on them, is that what you're saying?

955
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,500
Possibly, because they will move.

956
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:20,380
Okay.

957
01:02:20,380 --> 01:02:29,040
So we can use the square for recreation that's they can move they can move they have to be recreation year-round

958
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,660
Remember we talked about that in the summer. We're gonna have roller skating and so the boosters we we talked about that

959
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:38,600
It has to be here year-round it can't be moved

960
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:43,340
Yeah, because you're not using it in the summer for recreation if you've got a move in a storage summer

961
01:02:43,340 --> 01:02:45,100
I've never seen this idea here

962
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:47,280
So I'd like to explore that a little bit.

963
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,960
That was actually tear this building down.

964
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,280
That's a whole new building.

965
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,020
So we also want to re-purpose this one

966
01:02:55,020 --> 01:02:56,720
and maybe add onto it actually.

967
01:02:56,940 --> 01:02:57,080
Right.

968
01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:58,440
It was our neighborhood.

969
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,580
That's why it's a completely different shape than that.

970
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,360
Yeah, it was tear it down.

971
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,400
Whatever we do is got to connect to this building and make sense.

972
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,840
And what we have before doing.

973
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,280
And connect to this building.

974
01:03:10,780 --> 01:03:11,260
Function.

975
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,780
I mean, all that we did was sit next to this building.

976
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:21,620
I didn't really connect on one wall and you couldn't get from once the other.

977
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:31,200
That's the next step after I would suggest those ones is plan and let's get that designed

978
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,760
to figure it out and the rate and the building.

979
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,020
The other stuff can fall out.

980
01:03:39,020 --> 01:03:45,660
Well, but you don't lose it with the building though you're you're using losing your parking

981
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:51,700
Are you so you'll have to have some parking at all to do all of that. Yeah, okay, but we need a plan

982
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:58,140
We've got to share what we're having towards, right? Yeah, this isn't in a word. It's got to have some adjustments

983
01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,420
All set

984
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:05,760
So new to it. We'll bring it back in August. Please put some kind of into this

985
01:04:09,220 --> 01:04:12,280
We'll bring the doasters in at the ice experts.

986
01:04:12,620 --> 01:04:20,200
We have some contractors of well and it will help us with that part of it whether it's

987
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,580
the surface having it.

988
01:04:23,060 --> 01:04:25,520
The other thing people freak out of them.

989
01:04:26,260 --> 01:04:28,880
Anyway, cover that thing so it could be as you're out.

990
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,580
It could be temporary.

991
01:04:30,780 --> 01:04:31,340
It could be moved.

992
01:04:31,620 --> 01:04:32,940
It could leave it up after Swiss days.

993
01:04:32,940 --> 01:04:34,720
We could put it up before this phase.

994
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:35,800
There's other problems.

995
01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:36,760
Is it about the ice frame?

996
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:37,420
Yeah.

997
01:04:38,140 --> 01:04:43,440
The color we looked at, Wes and I looked at that $1,000,000 to cover it.

998
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,040
It is a cantilever and it can does this and because of the snow load and what we have,

999
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,720
the engineering is about $700,000 and then the cantilever and that they move like this

1000
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,860
close and open is about $1,000,000.

1001
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:02,020
So that was three years ago that we did that design that Wes and I looked at and it was

1002
01:05:02,020 --> 01:05:03,060
outrageously expensive.

1003
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,960
I'm sure it's better now and there's better ideas, but that was kind of a starting point.

1004
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:12,460
We were thinking about that because that way we could have in the summertime wouldn't be so hot, but the content is outrageous.

1005
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:19,480
This is a looser home arc fail. I think that's why we wanted it to open and close, you know, and open and I know.

1006
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:27,920
But we were trying to say, yeah, it's that open, I know, up in there, I agree, and yeah, I just, I, just, I, to me, that,

1007
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:36,660
the level side of the box a little bit, see what we come up with, and then as a group will decide, but some of this is, we got to get on it.

1008
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:41,000
Brad, can you add that to the second August meeting?

1009
01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:46,190
If you have questions, reach out to Michael and me and I,

1010
01:05:47,290 --> 01:05:51,050
this is all talking about it, but we are always walking.

1011
01:05:51,590 --> 01:05:54,250
And I think that night, it might not be a bad idea to start

1012
01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:56,290
on it early, I must walk the square.

1013
01:05:57,430 --> 01:06:00,290
So, come on, your ideas and then let's go for a walk about it.

1014
01:06:00,310 --> 01:06:01,990
We did that now, mainstreamed that out a little bit.

1015
01:06:02,270 --> 01:06:03,470
So, let's do that on the square.

1016
01:06:03,950 --> 01:06:06,830
Well, we've done it out here when they state the building

1017
01:06:06,830 --> 01:06:07,590
that they wanted.

1018
01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:13,230
that's when I it wasn't really sold on it anyway but when you actually saw the

1019
01:06:13,230 --> 01:06:20,510
size and what it would do it was like you know okay yeah I was

1020
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:27,710
gonna say it just

1021
01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:41,410
did that that just yeah yeah that was just a second ago any comments from the

1022
01:06:41,410 --> 01:06:49,430
I was thinking through this and working with events like I do the part the area back here

1023
01:06:50,260 --> 01:07:00,270
back here yeah where we have the parking by the shelter um that when you're having events

1024
01:07:00,270 --> 01:07:08,650
that's a very dangerous spot and even like during the winter when people or yeah down by the ring

1025
01:07:09,150 --> 01:07:14,890
When people, you know, they come in to drop their kids off, and I see it. I'm here every day all the time.

1026
01:07:15,610 --> 01:07:21,750
They drive in, kids, you know, get out of the car right across. And that kind of people use that as a thoroughfare.

1027
01:07:23,590 --> 01:07:33,650
And I've seen so many close calls in there. When we do events, we have to close off so many different ways to try to keep people from coming down in there.

1028
01:07:33,650 --> 01:07:41,730
So just keep that in mind as you look at it as because we're getting more events, they're

1029
01:07:41,730 --> 01:07:48,710
getting bigger, we have to think about safety for people and you know they come around

1030
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:54,270
this corner, they come in the driveway behind the town hall, come around that corner and

1031
01:07:54,270 --> 01:07:58,690
you can't, if there's cars parked there, you can't see and there's kids going across to

1032
01:07:58,690 --> 01:08:06,450
under the restrooms and yeah it can be a little bit tricky down in there and it's hard to keep

1033
01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:12,050
people out of there when you're having an event to try to keep it clear so it's safe because we

1034
01:08:12,050 --> 01:08:18,030
have two entrances and people just like to use that as a cut-through so think about that when you're

1035
01:08:18,030 --> 01:08:23,050
looking at it. And so from your experience you've got this this plan here where that heart needs

1036
01:08:23,050 --> 01:08:27,250
removed. We've got a new parking area, but people would be basically walking from

1037
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:32,030
first to last or from first North, maybe from main street. That would take away

1038
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:38,890
that interface with the public. And I think that work. Like Michael said, I mean

1039
01:08:38,890 --> 01:08:43,250
just come to our office every day that it's like a thoroughfare that are out of

1040
01:08:43,250 --> 01:08:47,430
people walking. I mean that's, you know, they go day and pair and then they cut

1041
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:51,990
straight cross to go cross to go to Valorina Farm. They don't want to walk clear

1042
01:08:51,990 --> 01:09:00,630
out and around. They're just going to walk right to the parking lot. So can I ask you a question?

1043
01:09:01,470 --> 01:09:13,770
The reason to remove the shelter is what? No, but for those who want to remove it,

1044
01:09:13,970 --> 01:09:19,430
what is that argument? I know it's an older building. I know at one point I'm

1045
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:25,970
bug probes and I had a really cool idea to refurbish it, make it, you know, the old pot

1046
01:09:25,970 --> 01:09:32,190
rock. I'm just wondering if there's a reason. I'm trying to, you said, noodle it and kind

1047
01:09:32,190 --> 01:09:40,290
of get your opinion. I just wonder if there's any. Well, but I just wonder if there's a reason

1048
01:09:40,290 --> 01:09:45,710
that I can maybe lose my emotional tie as somebody can tell me if there was, was it just the

1049
01:09:45,710 --> 01:09:51,010
engineer's thought it should go up here because it's better because to me you

1050
01:09:51,010 --> 01:09:56,550
put some really we have some really cool ideas for the inside and you have

1051
01:09:56,550 --> 01:10:01,230
the pot rack on the outside you get the roll-up doors instead of the tracks the

1052
01:10:01,230 --> 01:10:07,930
way they are and the building that's there could be really nice but if there's a

1053
01:10:07,930 --> 01:10:13,510
reason okay I just want to get there was a reason okay I just it was presented

1054
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:14,850
And nothing more than that.

1055
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:18,230
Well, what they did is they took those three guiding principles

1056
01:10:18,750 --> 01:10:21,810
and then added these things in here, whether, I mean,

1057
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:25,250
we have more on the, oh, we don't have more on the road.

1058
01:10:25,490 --> 01:10:25,650
Yeah.

1059
01:10:26,210 --> 01:10:26,670
That's a good one.

1060
01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:30,530
We got to stat you when we moved it from here to here.

1061
01:10:30,710 --> 01:10:31,630
And maybe we'll stick it here.

1062
01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:37,190
But it's, yeah, I just, I just have to give you, if I missed

1063
01:10:37,190 --> 01:10:40,470
somewhere along the line somewhere that said,

1064
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:45,750
And it needs to go because that's my question.

1065
01:10:46,690 --> 01:10:53,470
It's okay to have an emotional high because that ring is a big emotional time.

1066
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:57,450
I do take the logic in mind, that thing would be gone.

1067
01:10:57,870 --> 01:11:06,390
And the shelter building, my dad, Gene Probe, they all built it.

1068
01:11:06,730 --> 01:11:09,230
That's part rock from midway, that's, you know.

1069
01:11:09,230 --> 01:11:12,990
And so if there is kind of an emotional type of that,

1070
01:11:12,990 --> 01:11:17,070
it's a historical done by people who love people.

1071
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:18,150
So I look back.

1072
01:11:18,710 --> 01:11:22,390
And if there's a reason, then maybe I could get over it.

1073
01:11:22,590 --> 01:11:25,490
But if there's, if it's just because somebody said,

1074
01:11:25,490 --> 01:11:28,590
well, it would be better if we just had a picnic shelter

1075
01:11:28,590 --> 01:11:31,690
up here and got rid of that so that we could put a room

1076
01:11:31,690 --> 01:11:32,770
around the road there.

1077
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:35,930
But to me, that's just not.

1078
01:11:36,270 --> 01:11:38,830
And the tennis court galley isn't the best use in the space.

1079
01:11:38,830 --> 01:11:44,570
the barbecue is in the most wrong place as well right I mean it makes more sense

1080
01:11:44,570 --> 01:11:45,450
to have it up there.

1081
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:50,550
Put it at Centennial Parks and that's the other thing is

1082
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:54,570
the continuation over to Centennial. I mean we've talked before man we should

1083
01:11:54,570 --> 01:12:05,670
about those two houses. We have a coolest square you know. We blew that. But yeah they were they were but the

1084
01:12:05,670 --> 01:12:11,010
The barbecue pit isn't used by people in the shelter.

1085
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:12,590
I mean, it's used as Swiss days.

1086
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:14,030
People don't rent that.

1087
01:12:14,110 --> 01:12:16,470
I mean, when they rent, we don't let them go and use it.

1088
01:12:17,410 --> 01:12:20,290
Yeah, but it makes sense.

1089
01:12:20,430 --> 01:12:22,070
Go put it at Centennial Park.

1090
01:12:22,250 --> 01:12:24,430
It doesn't need to be right in the middle of this part

1091
01:12:24,430 --> 01:12:25,190
of the town square.

1092
01:12:25,650 --> 01:12:30,270
It was right kind of in a Nellman's land that wasn't used.

1093
01:12:30,710 --> 01:12:35,070
So I'm sure it is.

1094
01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:41,530
Can I just make a comment to just remind you that if we have a snow year like we did three

1095
01:12:41,530 --> 01:12:46,190
or four years ago, whenever it was, we had a heavy snow, we have to blow all that snow

1096
01:12:46,190 --> 01:12:49,010
off the ring to the north of the ring.

1097
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:52,670
So those trees are there, they look pretty, but they're not going to work.

1098
01:12:52,990 --> 01:12:57,050
We need open space there that we can blow that snow off the ring.

1099
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:58,330
Good point.

1100
01:12:58,890 --> 01:12:59,210
Good morning.

1101
01:12:59,530 --> 01:12:59,670
Yeah.

1102
01:12:59,670 --> 01:13:00,730
Temporary footing.

1103
01:13:01,970 --> 01:13:06,690
I'm not sitting tied to the pretty inside of the door, because it's your house.

1104
01:13:07,570 --> 01:13:09,390
The rest of that will be at it.

1105
01:13:09,850 --> 01:13:10,690
It's just a...

1106
01:13:10,690 --> 01:13:11,190
It's me.

1107
01:13:11,450 --> 01:13:12,230
Open up.

1108
01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:14,190
I like it open.

1109
01:13:14,930 --> 01:13:15,070
You know?

1110
01:13:15,630 --> 01:13:17,250
It's our little square.

1111
01:13:18,130 --> 01:13:19,610
You see that in the cemetery.

1112
01:13:19,870 --> 01:13:21,370
You don't plant trees in the middle of it.

1113
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:21,630
Right.

1114
01:13:21,730 --> 01:13:22,890
If you want people to get out of it.

1115
01:13:22,910 --> 01:13:23,070
Right.

1116
01:13:23,690 --> 01:13:24,890
That's how I felt, too.

1117
01:13:25,290 --> 01:13:25,830
I have a question.

1118
01:13:26,270 --> 01:13:28,610
Is the city interested in...

1119
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:28,790
No.

1120
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:35,410
Doing more Christmas lights on the square like I would be we have some great way that we could potentially and they can't go

1121
01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:38,650
I mean that we can help provide paid by those lights

1122
01:13:38,650 --> 01:13:41,130
I mean you'd have to then see with the figure out of

1123
01:13:41,130 --> 01:13:45,970
Paying about every year, but it doesn't mean you're interested in sure

1124
01:13:45,970 --> 01:13:49,870
I have always thought it would be such a cool thing to have Christmas lights on this square and

1125
01:13:50,670 --> 01:13:53,190
It's just a thing to park yet. It's really cool walking

1126
01:13:59,470 --> 01:14:02,910
Absolutely, we are allowed. I didn't want to, like, do you do a long time job?

1127
01:14:02,930 --> 01:14:04,830
So it's not a heavy 10th grade.

1128
01:14:04,850 --> 01:14:05,510
Oh, I have your 10th grade job.

1129
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:06,810
I need to request, okay.

1130
01:14:07,290 --> 01:14:08,230
I can do that one.

1131
01:14:11,410 --> 01:14:12,530
We'll take your money down.

1132
01:14:13,130 --> 01:14:14,770
We'll take your money down.

1133
01:14:14,770 --> 01:14:15,890
We'll take your money down.

1134
01:14:15,890 --> 01:14:16,530
We'll take your money down.

1135
01:14:16,830 --> 01:14:17,470
We'll take your money down.

1136
01:14:17,470 --> 01:14:18,170
We'll take your money down.

1137
01:14:18,170 --> 01:14:28,770
We'll take your money down.

1138
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:30,850
Okay. Yeah, perfect. Thank you, everybody.

1139
01:14:31,730 --> 01:14:32,570
So what is Kevin?

1140
01:14:38,010 --> 01:14:43,410
So on the second order to come back with our ideas, we're going to talk about it and vote that night on it.

1141
01:14:43,810 --> 01:14:45,650
Or are we just going to talk about it again?

1142
01:14:45,850 --> 01:14:47,890
We're going to talk about it and get enough of a plan.

1143
01:14:47,990 --> 01:14:49,390
Do we need to be ready to vote?

1144
01:14:49,390 --> 01:14:50,290
Yeah, we can hear you.

1145
01:14:50,370 --> 01:14:52,110
I just want you to be ready to vote.

1146
01:14:52,350 --> 01:14:52,930
Yeah, we can hear you.

1147
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:54,390
We need to discuss it and have to.

1148
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:55,570
You always need to be ready to vote.

1149
01:14:55,850 --> 01:14:56,810
Well, you know what I mean.

1150
01:14:58,250 --> 01:14:58,730
I do.

1151
01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:14,420
Thank you, everybody else have a problem. Thank you a lot. Thanks, guys. Bye, down line. Bye, down line, see ya.

1152
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:26,320
Thanks for having us. Thank you. Nice to see you. I'll be bugging you in heavy tech. You said I could have money.

1153
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:35,140
Okay. I'm after it. Okay, before we start this, can I get a motion to use the jet brake?

1154
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,500
Oh, it's early.

1155
01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:41,880
That motion, yeah, it's in the brake.

1156
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:42,940
So moved, son.

1157
01:15:43,460 --> 01:15:43,900
Okay,

1158
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,340
Kevin, I'm going to mute for just a minute so we come back.