[0:00] One a day, so I
eat candy instead.
[0:03] » We will call the next meeting to order.
We begin with the Pledge of Allegiance
[0:08] and prayer for those who wish to
participate.
[0:12] Pledge allegiance
>> to the flag of the United States of
[0:16] America, and to the republic for which
it stands, one nation under God,
[0:22] indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
[0:26] » Dear heavenly Father, help to guide us
in a way that's pleasing to thee. Help
[0:30] us to watch over the safety and
well-being of the town's people and our
[0:33] employees. Make decisions in your name,
we pray. Amen.
[0:44] We have the memorandums from the
previous meetings.
[0:48] » I make a motion we accept the
memorandums from previous meetings.
[0:52] » I'll second it.
>> We have a motion made and seconded that
[0:55] we approve the minutes of the or the
memorandums from the previous meetings.
[1:00] All those in favor signify by saying
aye.
[1:02] Aye. Aye. Those against signify by
saying nay. Motion carried.
[1:08] Attorney's report.
>> Well, I know you folks Oh, I must talk
[1:13] like this now.
[1:16] I can solve it too.
[1:19] I I know that everybody enjoys these
meetings where I said I don't have a
[1:23] report,
and that is not at all what this meeting
[1:27] is going to be like.
I cleared the topics to talk about. One
[1:30] of them was the topic you asked me to
investigate
[1:34] 2 months ago. I was unable to be at last
month's meeting, so
[1:38] this is
regarding data centers and the ability
[1:42] of the town
to centrally man them from the town
[1:47] itself.
Um
[1:50] the communities
that have banned data centers in in the
[1:56] city of in the past year or so
have all been communities with their own
[2:02] individual zoning structure.
When I say that, Marshall County, it's
[2:07] got Marshall County Plan Commission.
Uh Valparaiso, Valparaiso has Valparaiso
[2:11] City Plan Commission.
So, they all go by their own individual
[2:17] zoning rules.
So, what that means is that to
[2:23] uh
ban uh data centers or limit them based
[2:27] by use of a zoning ordinance would
require the town essentially to get the
[2:32] county to pass a zoning ordinance.
And theoretically, the town could
[2:37] champion such an ordinance. If you wish
to be a leader in trying to get that
[2:41] done, you would have the ability to get
that done, and then that has to do with
[2:45] convincing the powers that be that they
are going to do more than they have
[2:50] already. Right now, the county's zoning
and I've talked to to Matt Sandy about
[2:55] this. Uh
it is a data center is
[2:58] uh a
exceptional use. It requires It would
[3:02] require approval
in order to fit into the industrial
[3:07] heavy industrial district.
But, it would not be it's not
[3:11] automatically banned.
Um so, that's one way that theoretically
[3:17] you could go, but you don't have control
over that. Uh if a zoning request was
[3:23] made for a data center,
they would be asking you for your input
[3:28] as they routinely do with Plan
Commission
[3:31] on on various exceptions for uh
exceptional uses, I guess that's way to
[3:36] put it.
Uh the other way is the town could
[3:40] decide, "Okay, we are going to try to
pass an ordinance that says you cannot
[3:44] have this operation in town, period."
And
[3:50] uh it would be
a again, just a flat ban, but that has
[3:55] not been anything that has been tested
in Indiana law, at least as far as I can
[4:00] see.
Now, there have been tests where towns
[4:06] have attempted to totally ban a
particular operation,
[4:10] but my best advice to you on this is
think of it as if you were trying to
[4:15] pass an ordinance basing vanishing
tanning beds.
[4:20] And there would be some that would be
potentially attacked that by saying, you
[4:24] know, you just can't flatly tell us in
every respect what we can do we cannot
[4:29] do this with our property.
You can put fair restrictions on it. You
[4:33] can put guidelines on it, but you can't
just say we can't have a tanning bed.
[4:38] And that's potentially where litigation
would come out with regard to a flat ban
[4:46] on data centers.
Now, if you
[4:51] if you champion or work to extend the
moratorium with the limitations, I
[4:55] should say it's not a moratorium,
limitations that the county has on it,
[4:59] or have a moratorium for a while while
they look at the rules further,
[5:04] then if litigation occurs over that,
which is doubtful but possible, then it
[5:10] would be the county who would have to
defend that particular action.
[5:15] If you decided to pass an ordinance
flatly banning them, not by using zoning
[5:20] but by simply saying you can't have this
in town like you would with tanning
[5:24] beds,
that would be something that if you were
[5:28] forced to defend it, that would be you
defending that litigation in court
[5:32] because that would be a sound ordinance,
not a zoning ordinance.
[5:39] That's my mouthful explanation of what I
have investigated about data centers.
[5:44] If you have any questions, please feel
free to fire away.
[5:49] What about
a moratorium? Can we enact a moratorium?
[5:55] Could we
>> It's been about right now.
[5:59] » Yeah.
>> Which
[6:01] obviously would probably lead to
litigation eventually.
[6:04] Uh can we say, "Okay, we would like to
create an ordinance that places a
[6:08] moratorium on them for a specific amount
of time?"
[6:11] » No.
>> Okay.
[6:19] So, we're at the mercy of the county.
[6:23] In in any type of
>> I've actually That's the only thing,
[6:26] yeah. You have to decide that we'd have
we'd have no plan commission of our own.
[6:30] » Right.
>> Um and I actually spoke to the county
[6:33] commissioner about this situation.
Um
[6:39] It's an interesting conversation.
[6:43] Um
[6:47] and the county's aware of it, but I
I have to believe that the county
[6:53] um
[6:56] hopefully has the best interest of the
county citizens of the county at heart,
[7:01] but I also think that they see it as a
way to make money.
[7:05] » Well, and
>> which which I'm not saying is a bad
[7:08] thing, but it that could be at the
expense of
[7:12] people in the community where those
places are decided to locate.
[7:15] » And the other thing which is not I don't
think anything controls your decision,
[7:19] but it's something to be aware of is
that I think there's probably some
[7:22] discussion down at the state level
about taking over
[7:27] the
regulation of location of data centers.
[7:31] And of course, if the state takes it
over, then
[7:35] you know, the home rule provisions won't
apply. The state will have been
[7:38] litigating in that area, and therefore,
it's out of your hands totally.
[7:44] » Then it would take it out of the
county's hands as well.
[7:46] » For sure. Yeah, absolutely.
>> Just
[7:48] um
[7:52] So, currently, Jay, the
Board of Zoning
[7:58] Currently, Jay, the Board of Zoning
Appeals would be the one to make that
[8:03] vote.
Correct.
[8:07] If there was a and I
I'm pretty sure I'm generally answering
[8:13] his question in a general way that's
accurate.
[8:16] Uh but uh if it's a question of
exceptional use, the Board of Zoning
[8:19] Appeals make the decision. If it's a
question of kind of rezoning, uh you
[8:23] know, broader sense to restrict it even
further, then that's the Area Planning
[8:27] Commission make the decision. Depends on
whether you're operating under the
[8:30] current ordinance or whether you're
talking about extending and having a
[8:33] different ordinance.
[8:37] » Uh
one of the things
[8:40] One of the things that I spoke with to
that individual is I think that the Area
[8:45] Planning Commission is going to look at
some guidelines
[8:50] for
these types of facilities within the
[8:54] county.
Like I said, I think they're in favor of
[8:57] them to a certain extent, but I think
they want to place some guidelines in
[9:01] front of the businesses that want to
come in and do it
[9:05] to ensure
um
[9:09] a better
situation for everyone involved.
[9:14] » Well, one of the things to remember is
that uh there have been over at least my
[9:19] career over 40 years
uh a couple of instances where
[9:24] uh the local
uh town or the county itself has
[9:28] attempted to uh zone out of business
certain activities they did not like.
[9:34] Uh one of them being, if you come to
close to my house in North Webster and
[9:38] look at the search light, you can figure
that out. And they were not able to do
[9:43] that and partly because generally
speaking, you have to give people some
[9:48] right to take action and do something
somewhere.
[9:52] Uh if you take somebody's rights away to
have any business anywhere in town, uh
[9:57] they have potential to sue you for
what's called inverse condemnation.
[10:01] » Well, what I was speaking to, I don't
think the county's trying to prevent
[10:05] them from doing it. I think they're
trying to create a situation where
[10:10] if someone comes in and try to do this,
it's done in the
[10:14] best way possible for the people of the
community.
[10:16] » Yeah, and that's the basis for them
doing a moratorium in the first place,
[10:19] which is hey, we don't we've got these
data centers springing up
[10:25] anticipating data needs at volumes we
did not anticipate we would need 5 years
[10:30] ago because of uh of AI and the computer
power that's simply needed for that.
[10:36] Uh and so we want to place a moratorium
to try to make sure we do this to rules
[10:42] that make sense. None of those None of
those counties or towns are saying, "We
[10:47] want to have a zoning ordinance that
totally gets rid
[10:50] of data centers." For exactly that
reason.
[10:54] » So I just have a quick question. Um if
the board of zoning says, "Okay, yeah,
[10:59] we're going to grant this special
exception." Does it still go to the
[11:02] commissioners to approve after that or
is it in there?
[11:06] » It's there. The plan commission changes
in the zoning ordinance ultimately have
[11:11] to be approved by by the county
commissioners.
[11:15] Exceptions do not have to be changed.
Approved.
[11:19] » Yeah, that's where I was a little
confused. I didn't know if the exception
[11:21] would have to go there, but if it does,
we're good.
[11:25] » Right.
>> Area plan has to go back to the town.
[11:30] » The
They that area plan commission has to
[11:33] come to to well
if a zoning ordinance is your planning
[11:38] commission
and the county commissioners are in
[11:41] control of passing the county zoning
ordinance.
[11:46] That's their call.
[11:50] » I thought we as town had the last call
on
[11:54] area planning issues and not
>> Well, I don't think on the overall
[11:59] zoning ordinance I don't think you do.
>> No, not on the zoning
[12:02] » Yeah, right. That That's what we're
talking about is the zoning ordinance
[12:05] itself. If they had a change in the
zoning ordinance
[12:09] Yeah. That's them. That's county
commissioners that do that.
[12:12] If it's a BZA thing it's an exception
then
[12:17] they come to you for your opinion and
they get the final word but they've got
[12:21] to have input from you.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[12:23] » We give you credit.
[12:29] Any more questions on my topic number
one here?
[12:36] Okay.
>> I have
[12:38] » Sorry.
>> I guess
[12:41] explained to us the way it was or the
way it is, I think it's probably in the
[12:47] town's best interest to let the county
handle it and
[12:51] see what happens.
Okay.
[12:57] » Okay, so item number two, trails
mediation and condemnation.
[13:02] Um as you may recall we had in
the purchase offers that were made from
[13:10] USI in acquiring property for the trail.
There was one landowner who was not
[13:16] willing to agree and so we had to file a
suit against him
[13:21] in circuit court for condemnation.
Now, condemnation requires first of all,
[13:28] filing a complaint and then letting the
affected party file any objections that
[13:35] they might have to the need for
condemnation.
[13:39] Meaning, somebody can come in and say,
"Well, we think the town's going to put
[13:42] in an ice cream stand." And if the town
doesn't really need an ice cream stand,
[13:46] or that's not an appropriate government
function, or what is There's several
[13:49] different reasons.
Uh and the affected landowner may note
[13:52] such objections.
So, the next step is then to appoint a
[13:58] panel of three appraisers
who uh then value the property.
[14:04] Once that appraisal report is in, if the
town puts the amount of money in that
[14:11] the appraisers say the property is
worth,
[14:15] then the property automatically becomes
the town's.
[14:19] And there would still be litigation
later, potentially, if that guy says,
[14:24] "Yeah, we know the report from the three
appraisers was not sufficient, and I
[14:28] want to argue about the actual value."
But at that point, you own the property,
[14:33] which is part of the what we're trying
to do to get done here, to get the trail
[14:37] project done, uh and uh get get that
done in a timely fashion for grants and
[14:43] all that stuff.
Well, the headache I've had over the
[14:46] last several weeks is finding three
appraisers that would qualify to do the
[14:50] report.
Uh one of them has to be a
[14:56] a just a a free freeholder of the
property, meaning they own land in
[15:01] Kosciusko County.
Well, I got that. That was getting a
[15:05] retired person to do it. The other two,
though, needed to be certified
[15:09] appraisers, one of whom had to live
within at least 50 miles of the affected
[15:13] property.
But there are not of a ton of certified
[15:17] appraisers running around.
And there are even fewer of those that
[15:24] wish to take on this kind of project,
which frankly is a little more
[15:29] complex intellectually and probably a
little bit less lucrative financially
[15:33] than most of the appraisals appraisals
appraisals they're doing for mortgage
[15:38] companies and banks right now.
But I finally found them.
[15:42] Two weeks ago, the judge issued an order
of instructions to them last week.
[15:47] And hopefully we're going to have that
appraisal in before the end of the
[15:53] month.
[15:55] Once that is in, I will file that
appraisal and then the next step will be
[16:01] for the town to
come up with that amount of money.
[16:05] And that's the funding thing with your
consultants. I don't know where that
[16:08] funding money comes from, but
>> I got it.
[16:10] » You got it.
Um and so that'll be the next step in
[16:13] that project. But I wanted to give you
an update on that.
[16:17] Uh the
project the process has not been moving
[16:21] quickly as I like and it's really
because I've had a hard time finding
[16:24] appraisers.
[16:27] Um I I talked to the
one of the folks your consultants uh and
[16:32] he said, "Well, the judge is supposed to
pick those." And I said, "Yeah, but when
[16:35] we have those picked, the judge turns to
me and says,
[16:38] 'Okay, who should they be?'"
The judge doesn't have a whole list of
[16:42] appraisers that he goes out there he's
asking me, "Okay, well, who do you who
[16:46] do you have?"
And
[16:49] that's where that's where the struggle
has been, but I finally got folks that
[16:53] can can and told me they are willing to
do it.
[16:56] » And that amount could come in
the appraisal amount could come in lower
[17:01] than the original offer was or higher
than the original offer.
[17:04] » Sure. I might bet in this case it's
going to come in lower.
[17:09] » That's what my question are we still
obligated to the higher offer that we
[17:13] did do to keep from going court or will
we actually pay what
[17:16] » You will pay what the appraisals
appraisers say is the value of the
[17:22] property that you are receiving.
And you know, you were willing to make a
[17:28] higher offer because you're going to
save costs for Well, for example, doing
[17:33] the litigation that I'm involved with
you in right now.
[17:36] And that money that you would have given
to him is now going to me and to a
[17:40] praiser.
[17:43] » So, effectively, it might be a wash.
Cost wise.
[17:46] » You hope you'll do better.
>> I would hope so.
[17:48] » Hopefully, yes.
>> I think given what I know about the
[17:51] numbers, I think the answer is you're
well likely to do better than
[17:54] that it could be a wash.
[17:57] » Thank you very
>> Okay.
[18:01] Third thing is the
Miller
[18:08] The The Miller
>> Swanson.
[18:10] » Yeah. What's the word I'm thinking of?
Uh it's not condemnation. The the Miller
[18:15] demolition litigation. Uh
and I have an affidavit which I'm going
[18:21] to leave here and our very qualified
pertrazier will round up the uh the
[18:28] building commissioner to sign this
affidavit.
[18:31] I will then tender that with my own
affidavit circuit court and hopefully we
[18:35] will get an order that allows you to
demolish the property.
[18:40] Uh if we do not uh
and then I'm sure the judge will set it
[18:44] for a hearing on whether we're entitled
to get that. And that will just happen
[18:49] as soon as possible.
When I say that
[18:52] might happen, it's because something
very unusual happened in this case. We
[18:57] talked about it a couple months ago,
which is somebody purporting to be the
[19:01] defendant's attorney in fact decided to
file an answer, but they're not really
[19:06] an attorney.
So, it's actually it's an illegal
[19:09] practice of a to do that.
and the logic of that is fairly clear,
[19:15] which is if you could just pass your own
ability on to represent you to anybody
[19:19] else, well, there'd be a lot of folks
doing that, and there wouldn't be many
[19:23] of us having jobs anymore.
Uh so,
[19:27] that that I don't know what the judge is
going to do with that particular thing.
[19:32] I have no idea. I have no question about
what I would do if I were the judge, but
[19:36] I'm not the judge, so that's why I
wouldn't let him do that. But, I'm going
[19:39] to bring this down to Trisha here after
I get done talking, and I'm going to
[19:43] assume that you can arrange for
Scott to come in and sign that. If you
[19:47] have any issues, just give me a call.
>> Okay.
[19:49] » So, that's the update on that. I know
you all wanted an update on that as
[19:52] well.
>> Jay, I assume then will if we take on
[19:55] the demolition and pay for the
demolition, we'll put a lien on the
[19:58] property to retrieve those costs.
>> That is an expense that you can tax onto
[20:03] the real estate, absolutely.
>> What about the other properties? Is
[20:07] there any word on them?
>> Where are they?
[20:10] » No, no, I haven't the
I assume you're talking about the other
[20:13] properties that we've sent letters to
and have sent the reports to.
[20:17] » Yeah.
>> I'll take that. Sure thing.
[20:20] » I thought you were going to take my
microphone.
[20:22] » Nope.
>> Okay.
[20:23] There you go.
>> The one on Main Street and Fourth
[20:26] Street.
>> Yeah.
[20:28] on that, but the means to go about the
idea I think is you need to have a
[20:32] building inspector that can look at it.
And last I heard, that was lacking.
[20:37] I'm not qualified to go and take a look
at it and say whether this person is
[20:41] complying with the orders or not.
So, until you have somebody that can
[20:45] say, "Yeah, he did comply." or "No, he
didn't comply."
[20:49] I'm kind of stuck. There's not much I
can do after this.
[20:51] » So, nothing's been done at all. Is that
don't matter? You need a building
[20:55] inspector.
>> Yeah, there's nothing I can do. I I
[20:58] mean, the only way I can answer that
question is you go down there and look
[21:00] at it yourself and see if anything's
been done, but legally, there's nothing
[21:03] I can do because I have to have somebody
that can say, "Hey, that building
[21:08] inspector's report was not abided by."
And then if if if I get that, then there
[21:15] are things that I can tell you you can
do. But I'm not going to tell you you've
[21:20] got rights to do anything until somebody
knows more about those buildings or
[21:23] buildings in general than I do says,
"Yeah, okay. This is the things that we
[21:28] asked to be done aren't done yet."
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[21:35] » So, that was a lot. Do you have anything
else? That's all I've got. Do you have
[21:38] anything else for me?
>> Yeah, anything else for the attorney?
[21:45] » Keep up the good work.
>> Thank you.
[21:48] » I guess we make a public service
announcement that if there are any
[21:51] building inspectors out there who would
like
[21:54] to come and inspect some properties,
we'd like to hire them.
[22:00] Okay.
Anything else for the attorney? We're
[22:03] moving on to public input.
>> Mr. Wyatt?
[22:08] » Up.
>> You want Mike?
[22:10] » I do.
And Mike, you're up.
[22:17] You're right, but
[22:20] » I have two items for you tonight. Uh the
first is a pay application on division A
[22:26] waste water water treatment plant
project. This is pay application number
[22:30] 12. Um
On this pay application is more of the
[22:33] continued progress on that project. A
lot of it is internal plumbing, some of
[22:37] the fixtures.
Um
[22:39] this one's a little bit smaller than the
previous ones uh for $60,584.22.
[22:46] $584.22.
And we recommend approval.
[22:51] » Once again, I'll ask you to do that fall
within the guidelines of what we had.
[22:55] » Yeah, everything out here is part of the
bid prices.
[22:58] » Okay, thank you.
>> I make a motion we
[23:02] pay that bill.
>> I'll second.
[23:05] » You hear a motion made and seconded. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
[23:09] Aye. Opposed same sign. Motion carried.
>> And then the uh second item this is for
[23:15] um
proposed change order number three on
[23:18] that same project. There's four items on
this change order. I'll just go through
[23:22] each one individually.
Uh first um would be to install a new
[23:27] hydrants on the system side of the
treatment plant.
[23:31] Um
this kind of provides benefit for
[23:34] uh establishing um and setting up the
entire treatment plant. Gives them
[23:39] another uh point of flushing. Um kind of
also helps uh long term to have a second
[23:45] uh hydrant. They now got hydrants on
both sides.
[23:48] The well side and the city side of the
treatment plant.
[23:53] Uh second is uh adding a sample tap
inside the uh waste water treat
[24:00] inside the water treatment plant. Um
right off the raw water uh line.
[24:04] Um this would effectively
um make taking raw water samples easier
[24:11] uh for the town rather than having to go
to the well building like you do now.
[24:16] Uh third uh would be replacement of the
VFDs on both existing supply well pumps.
[24:23] Um this is kind of something that's come
up during the project as we thought
[24:29] about how to accomplish
uh demoing the wall that is within the
[24:35] existing well building. Um one of the
VFDs is on that wall.
[24:40] Our contractor has basically concluded
that can be done. We can demo the wall
[24:45] and relocate that VFD while while
keeping um the other live. Uh but uh you
[24:51] know, more discussion with the town. The
thought was well, these VFDs are pushing
[24:56] 10 years old.
It's not beyond their useful life, but
[24:59] it's approaching it.
Um and if we did replace them, then we
[25:03] have the ability to relocate them into
the new uh water treatment plant
[25:07] building. So, there's a long-term value
uh to that as well.
[25:12] Uh and then lastly,
if you recall, I mean I believe it was
[25:17] change order one when we added exterior
painting uh to the treatment plans.
[25:22] Um that was
an add of $20,580.
[25:26] Well, since that time, um ARRO Odor has
gone back to their
[25:31] uh supplier and manufacturer of the
block to further investigate why it was
[25:36] having moisture coming through. You
know, if you recall at that time, we
[25:41] couldn't really determine if it was a
short-term thing, if it was going to be
[25:43] a long-term thing. We had a wet spring.
The block was allegedly wet when it was
[25:49] sitting on pallets ready to be
installed.
[25:52] Um
they weren't really able to determine
[25:55] that there was any issue with the block,
uh but they also weren't able to
[26:00] completely eliminate the possibility,
either.
[26:03] Um and again, the
the issue or the the issue in question
[26:06] isn't necessarily the structural
integrity of the block, it's just its
[26:09] waterproofness.
Um so, with amongst themselves, they
[26:14] weren't really able to satisfy their own
curiosity and the the material the block
[26:20] supplier was willing to maintain a good
relationship with the town, cover the
[26:24] cost of that exterior painting. So,
that's the fourth item here is to be
[26:29] essentially deduct that value back out
of the project. Um you know, and it's
[26:34] money saved in in your guys's case.
So, all four of those items uh come to a
[26:40] total change order net increase of
$39,715.00.
[26:47] Also in this change order is a change
a change in contract time, so it's an
[26:52] add of 56 calendar days. That's
essentially
[26:56] because of the scheduling of needing to
replace those VFDs.
[27:01] That's going to be the very last thing
they do. Demolishing that wall within
[27:04] the well building, switching those VFDs
into the treatment plant building.
[27:08] So, our contractor is requesting some
additional time to do that.
[27:12] Um, we've made it clear that the intent
isn't to slow down any other work, um,
[27:16] to, you know, to block their schedule.
Um, it's just the VFD the installation
[27:20] that would go into that time. And I do
believe that 56 days is probably
[27:24] conservative, but, um,
you know, we'd rather them ask for the
[27:29] appropriate amount of time rather than,
you know, exceed their their time
[27:32] allowed. So, that's part of this change
order as well.
[27:35] Um,
yes, we've reviewed it. All of the
[27:38] costs, um,
[27:41] we've got, uh, no issues there. Uh, we
recommend approval if that's, um, if
[27:46] these are all items that the town would
be interested in. As far as the overall
[27:49] project, we've got about $150,000 in
contingency on the project as well. So,
[27:56] these added costs would be part of the
the, uh, the SRF funds.
[28:03] Happy to take any questions.
>> Question, Ryan.
[28:06] Does the 56-day extension create any
create any issues with the grant itself?
[28:15] » No. No, the time frame with SRF is not
an issue, no.
[28:19] » Okay.
>> No, they they typically SRF usually
[28:21] states that they like all funds to be
spent within 2 years, but historically
[28:25] they never penalize when something gets
added and that extends the time frame.
[28:30] They know a lot of these projects, while
they have very long construction
[28:33] durations, you add work to them, that's
obviously going to impact the schedule.
[28:37] So, no, there's not going to be any
issues with
[28:40] with the time frame from SRF, no.
>> Ryan, I think I can speak loudly enough.
[28:44] I don't need a microphone. That's good.
So, backwash tank, where are you on
[28:49] that?
Where are they on that?
[28:51] » Yeah, the the issue with that has been
>> the water.
[28:55] » that.
>> Yes.
[28:56] So, we talked about it a little bit at
the last progress meeting. Um,
[29:00] a good amount and then Stephen gave an
kind of another update today.
[29:05] Um, essentially
they've been going on this for 3 to 4
[29:09] months.
Um,
[29:11] That's why you see
Yeah, going back 3 to 4 months, very
[29:15] wet. Uh, the ground water was higher
than typical.
[29:19] Uh, when we originally when we designed
the project, we took soil borings and
[29:23] those soil borings logged uh, ground
water depth of about 7 to 8 ft deep.
[29:28] So, that's what they're, you know, uh,
basically told to anticipate in a normal
[29:33] water condition at the time of the year
that those borings uh, were taken.
[29:38] Um,
probably their initial attempt at
[29:41] dewatering, which was essentially a
trash pump in its zone, was
[29:46] insufficient. You know, a couple months
went by,
[29:49] you know, we did have very heavy rains
so they weren't exactly incentivized to
[29:52] hurry things up because of the driving
weather.
[29:55] Uh, but it simply wasn't successful.
Didn't get the pit dry enough to put
[30:00] backfill, actually do this is a this is
a a cast in place tank so they need
[30:05] time to to uh, have it all formed and
and dry for an extended period of time.
[30:10] About, uh, I would say 2 to 3 weeks ago
they got
[30:15] a different company to do the
dewatering. They set up well points
[30:19] um, with a much, much larger pump. Uh,
if you've been to the site you've seen
[30:23] it. Um, it's basically a kind of like a
a little trailer but uh, much larger
[30:28] pump, much more capable of dewatering as
they need to. Uh, they did successfully
[30:33] dewater um, down to the depths they
needed uh, but then they
[30:38] probably, I don't know, this is more of
an opinion thing but lacked uh,
[30:43] sufficient earth retention to keep the
sides from caving in. Cuz now you've
[30:46] kind of taken a lot of that moisture
that's kind of holding a lot of that
[30:49] sand back.
So, they've had
[30:53] I believe it's the north side of their
excavation cave in and that knocked out
[30:58] some of their their well points. And
basically they had to shut down their
[31:02] pumps and then so the water came back
up. So, they're basically reestablishing
[31:06] their excavation now.
They've got the right method of of
[31:11] dewatering in place
and can continue to proceed with
[31:15] actually getting it suitable to start
forming up and placing that backwash
[31:20] tank. So, they've noted that's been a
a point of delay for them.
[31:26] Now, at what point does it become a
critical path thing where it actually
[31:30] slows the completion of the project? I'm
not certain we're at that point. At our
[31:34] last progress meeting they didn't say we
were at that point.
[31:37] Um
but
[31:39] you know, it's just that there's not a
whole lot of other items that are
[31:42] impacted by the backwash tank. It's kind
of its own
[31:46] thing. All of the work with the
treatment plant keeps, you know,
[31:48] » No, I understand that.
>> Yeah. But that's that's as much as
[31:52] I know.
At least in my opinion, they didn't
[31:56] really have the right method at the
beginning.
[31:59] But I think they're on the right track
now.
[32:02] Yeah.
>> Do you see them sticking with that plan
[32:05] or is there a possibility they would
have There would have to be some
[32:08] re-engineering take place
to make something work?
[32:11] » No, I think
>> My concern is
[32:13] are are we going to end up seeing a bill
because
[32:16] whoever didn't do it properly
>> Yeah, that's a problem. That's a
[32:20] reasonable concern, but no. Every I
think that they've never asked for any
[32:23] costs or anything ahead of that and they
really don't have any grounds to.
[32:26] » That's what I wanted to make sure of.
>> Basically, the way our construction
[32:30] drawings show this is what you should
expect the ground water to be at. It
[32:33] does give recommendations for
dewatering, for earth retention.
[32:37] whether or not they they use all those
recommendations, that's that's that's
[32:42] their methods and that's their report.
>> Okay, thank you.
[32:45] » Brian, I got a question going back to
the 150,000.
[32:49] » Please use the microphone. Thank you.
>> When you said we had 150,000, that was a
[32:55] surplus and we're going to take
basically the 30,000 off of that. So,
[33:00] » Yes. 40,000 I should say.
[33:04] » There you
I'm not used to this, but anyway. Uh
[33:07] » Yes, that's exactly right.
>> So, that takes us down to 110, but we're
[33:10] still at a surplus.
>> Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Um the
[33:13] project after one it closed with us
around had a 5% contingency. So, that's
[33:18] the amount that every change order we
add to it each project comes out. It's
[33:23] so it's dollars that are in the loan,
but not allocated to anything.
[33:27] » And it was actually 59,000, but we got
20,000 credit for the paint. Then they
[33:31] decided to take care of it for us.
>> That's exactly right.
[33:34] » I just want to make sure my
understanding was correct.
[33:36] » Yeah, and to give you a
even bigger picture too on division B,
[33:41] the water main and service project, um
we're looking to assemble a change order
[33:46] for that one, but it will be a change
order to use unused dollars on that one.
[33:50] It won't the the the point the the
target isn't to exceed that original
[33:55] contract amount with that. So, um
yeah,
[33:59] you you you'd still have about 110,000
that's unallocated to anything.
[34:05] » All right, thank you.
[34:13] » Any other questions?
[34:18] » I'll make a motion we pay the uh
I'll make a motion we pay the 39,000
[34:23] and some change.
>> I'll second.
[34:26] » What was the exact number?
>> $39,715.00
[34:33] » $39,715.00
[34:36] » Zero.
>> Zero.
[34:37] » Zero cents.
>> Be a motion made and a second. All those
[34:41] in favor signify by saying aye.
>> Aye.
[34:44] » The votes are inside. Motion carried.
>> Thank you.
[34:54] » Any other questions for Robert?
[34:58] You got the good one.
[35:01] Moving on to WHR Home Insurance.
>> All right. So, we have our general
[35:07] insurance renewal that is up.
Yeah.
[35:12] Um and so, our agent is here and our
agent's assistant.
[35:18] » Perfect.
>> I know, right? Um are here and I will
[35:20] let them introduce themselves. Um
basically, we have our renewal amount
[35:24] and he spoke to my folks, but he'll tell
you the details.
[35:29] Blue for all of us.
>> What's that?
[35:31] » The microphone is new for all of us.
>> All right. Good evening. Uh thanks for
[35:36] having us. Peter Shepherd and Mike Hall
from Billyard Hall Insurance.
[35:40] Uh thank you for your partnership.
I I really appreciate it. Um here to
[35:44] kind of go over uh the '26-'27
uh year for your insurance. Um
[35:51] kind of give you a high-level overview
of what we got. Um
[35:55] we can certainly spend a lot of time in
the details. Um
[35:58] I've sent Trisha a proposal. Uh looks
like this.
[36:02] I've spent the last uh couple months
here putting together some numbers. Uh
[36:06] so, kind of give you a brief out-
outline.
[36:09] In totality, the policy from last year
to the upcoming year increased about 6%,
[36:15] which is about $4,000 of premium.
Uh we all felt comfortable with this
[36:20] renewal percentage. Um
the market is seeing anywhere from 10 to
[36:23] 15%.
Um that's after speaking with the
[36:27] underwriter multiple times again over
the last couple months. Um,
[36:31] it's kind of an indication of what the
market is doing.
[36:34] Uh, it's shifted to become a soft
market. Things will start to be more
[36:38] competitive, rates coming down. Uh, so I
think in tandem with soft market,
[36:43] um, and your your percentage
year-to-year both in percentage and
[36:47] premium wise, we felt comfortable. Uh,
however, to make sure that it's
[36:51] competitive for you and it's,
uh, aligned with what you want, um, in
[36:56] terms of cost,
uh, I spent some time going out to
[36:59] market to re-market the account, uh,
which is pretty standard. So,
[37:03] um, went out to a couple different
markets.
[37:06] All came back not competitive, either at
what this renewal was or more.
[37:11] Um, and so again,
kind of solidify that point, we felt
[37:14] like,
uh, the insurance renewal was
[37:17] competitive. So,
[37:21] that's kind of a high-level overview. I
said, "Okay, answer questions my client
[37:25] might have to, um, like I said, thanks,
but
[37:28] that's kind of what we
had presented.
[37:32] » And I just have to say like Peter
tolerates me, I'm sure at best, but
[37:37] we've gone through a lot of the
different parts of the policy with the
[37:40] clients who's calling and has found some
other things, um, along the way, and
[37:45] he's always, uh, looked into it,
resolved the issue that we had, and
[37:49] we've been able to work through some of
the challenges, um, but making sure that
[37:53] our policy is
correct, and we're actually covered for
[37:57] all the appropriate things is a lot of
work. So, we meet like every quarter and
[38:01] go over a different aspect of it because
it's very time consuming for both of us.
[38:05] And so, I just wanted to tell you guys
how much I appreciate how much time he
[38:09] puts in to make sure that our stuff is
accurate because he doesn't technically
[38:13] have to, but
if he wants to keep our business, he
[38:15] does, you know, that. But,
we we just want to stop encountering
[38:20] some of these problems that we've been
encountering. So, um I just wanted to
[38:23] let you guys know that I appreciate his
help with that.
[38:31] » I have one question.
Um
[38:36] you're calling our water treatment
plant, I'm assuming our new facility. Is
[38:40] that what's on this policy?
>> Correct.
[38:43] » And the those replacement costs are
reflective of
[38:48] what it would cost to replace that
facility?
[38:51] » Yeah.
So in the report that I have, there's a
[38:54] statement of values, and so we can we
can reference that if you'd like, but
[38:59] » Well, I I Well, I you're the personal
property, is that the equipment inside
[39:03] the building?
>> Yeah, so any any piece of equipment or
[39:06] anything that's movable within buildings
can be put under what we call business
[39:10] personal property.
>> Well, I have an issue with that because
[39:14] the one component in there is 4.5
million dollars.
[39:17] And your your replacement cost is far
more
[39:20] » It's not the new filtration plant.
>> Oh, okay, I'm sorry. That's That was
[39:24] what I wanted to clarify.
>> We will have to add that one to it goes
[39:27] live.
>> Okay, once it goes live. And have me
[39:30] » Cuz you have to have the construction
finished. Like right now it's in
[39:33] construction.
>> That's That was my That was my concern
[39:36] and my question.
>> Yeah, I assume you have what's called a
[39:38] builder's risk policy. I don't think
that's a separate policy that covers
[39:43] whatever it is you're building.
>> Okay. I I'm just This is going to She
[39:48] just made She clarified the biggest
question I had. It is not covered yet.
[39:53] » Correct.
>> That is That is the question because
[39:55] this didn't make any sense at all. For
that.
[39:59] » Yep.
>> No offense, but
[40:00] » No.
>> That's all I That was it.
[40:06] » Yeah, I'll just add a secondary note. Um
in this proposal document, um
[40:11] I've also towards the end made some
considerations, so things that I would
[40:15] want to bring to the table just for you
to consider.
[40:18] Um so you can take a deeper dive into
that and have any answered questions at
[40:20] a different time. But um something that
I
[40:24] uh in talking with my colleagues um
wanted to make a mention of what's
[40:27] called social engineering and invoice
manipulation.
[40:31] Uh with the increase in all of AI that
is about to
[40:34] uh be fold on onto us. Um
there's some things that I think
[40:39] I'd like to talk about or discuss at
some point uh just so you can think
[40:43] think about um
going in the future. So I I paid a note
[40:47] of that consideration at the end of the
document. So
[40:58] » Do we have any other questions for the
insurance people?
[41:04] If not, do we have a motion to adopt?
>> I make a motion we renew our insurance.
[41:10] » I'll second it.
>> Being a motion made and seconded, all
[41:13] those in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.
[41:16] » Opposed, same sign. Motion carries.
>> I'd like to just say thank you for
[41:20] allowing us to help for all these years.
So we appreciate
[41:24] the opportunity that you give to us and
if you have any questions, just please
[41:28] let us know.
>> Thank you.
[41:31] » Thank you very much.
[41:44] » You're welcome.
>> Uh first of all, the Milford Lions Club
[41:48] would like to
thank Brenda and Trisha. We called in an
[41:52] emergency last week when we saw the
weather might be raining Saturday and we
[41:57] don't need a bunch of elders out trying
to get in the pavilion during the storm.
[42:01] So we were able to heat the building and
we ended up using it. So we just wanted
[42:05] to say thank you from the Milford Lions
Club. I know you guys have a lot going
[42:09] on, but
you saved our butts on that one.
[42:12] Appreciate it.
Second of all, I just want to let
[42:15] everybody know about our fish fry this
Saturday. It's a drive-thru fish fry.
[42:21] It's to support the Milford Lions Club
and the Milford Lions Festival
[42:26] because Milford Lions Club used to earn
its money for our Christmas party and
[42:30] everything from Polk Auction. Polk
Auction is no longer Polk Auction, so we
[42:34] don't have that ability to earn the
money. So, this is our first fish fry
[42:38] we're trying with the Eagles from
Syracuse helping us
[42:42] and we're splitting the profits 50/50
and we encourage people to come out and
[42:46] help us and support us.
And that's all I got.
[42:51] It's at Mr. Ruedisueli.
The drive-thru. Mr. Ruedisueli is
[42:55] letting us use their electricity to fry
it and we'll have an entrance off of 15
[43:01] and an exit out the side of Mr.
Ruedisueli and that way we keep traffic
[43:04] flowing. It's carryout only. Seven
pieces of fish for $15 or four pieces
[43:11] for $10 and we'll have baked beans for
$4 as a side.
[43:15] » And as a side note, too, you can get
pre-sent tickets.
[43:19] » Yes.
>> So, Mr. Smiley
[43:21] » I have plenty of them.
>> And they're going to get food truck
[43:23] Friday tickets.
>> All right. We will be selling food truck
[43:26] Friday tickets for food truck Friday
because we Milford lets us be there and
[43:30] we appreciate all their help. We're just
We only ordered 175 lb of fish and I've
[43:36] sold 11 lb so far and four other pounds
have been sold. That's where we're at.
[43:41] So, we can use all the help we can get
to
[43:44] blow this one out of the water and start
making it a tradition to make money for
[43:48] the Lions Club because we need to have a
way to support our Lions Club where we
[43:53] can keep supporting our community.
>> What are the times?
[43:57] » 11:00 to 4:00.
Pre-sold tickets are good till 2:00 p.m.
[44:03] And we're having it rain or or because
we don't know what the weather is, cuz
[44:07] they don't know what it is.
>> And when you say you're splitting the
[44:11] amount 50/50, who's the two 50/50?
>> 50% to the Milford Lions administration
[44:19] fund. That's how we have our Christmas
party and everything. We have two funds
[44:22] since we're nonprofit. We have a fund
where we earn money, we can actually
[44:27] have like our Christmas party and pay
for it cuz we
[44:31] that's our biggest thing for the the
Lions Club itself is in the families
[44:35] because
we get Santa Claus
[44:38] kids and it's a big thing and it costs a
lot of money. Well, Polk Auction used to
[44:43] pay us twice a year to go out there and
set and we would check tickets when
[44:46] people would leave the auction to make
sure they paid for what they were
[44:50] getting. Well, Polk Auction is no longer
there.
[44:54] So, we no longer have that availability
to earn the money. So, we're trying to
[44:58] do this as a new way to earn money.
And we're hoping it is a success and we
[45:03] do it next year.
Luckily, we have the Eagles from
[45:07] Syracuse helping us do this and it helps
keep our costs down.
[45:11] » So, the Eagles are getting the other
50%?
[45:14] » No. No, the Eagles do not get one penny.
Let me make They actually help donate
[45:18] the fish. Last time they donated the
chicken.
[45:21] The Milford Lions Club general fund will
get 50% of the profit and the Milford
[45:25] Lions Festival for 2027 will get the
other 50% of the profit. The Eagles are
[45:31] not taking anything at all.
[45:35] And we're just hoping for it to be a
success.
[45:39] » Perfect.
>> Thank you.
[45:44] » Thank you, Jerem.
Yeah, I know.
[45:47] Want everybody to support the Lions Club
here.
[45:51] Uh do we have any other public input
before we get to departmental reports?
[45:59] Okay, Fire Department.
[46:03] » I have nothing.
[46:13] » Anything for the Fire Department?
>> Keep up good work.
[46:16] » Thanks.
>> Keep up the good work.
[46:18] » Thank you.
>> Police Department
[46:22] » I just have one item for discussion.
We are currently
[46:28] » Mr. White
>> with uh
[46:30] the school for a new contract.
>> New contract?
[46:34] » For the SRO.
And while we are in that process, we
[46:40] have money left over from
the
[46:43] previous year
[46:47] from the council
to use those funds under the old
[46:52] contract
from the previous year until we
[46:55] establish the new contract.
[46:59] » Town
>> Do you foresee it taking
[47:02] longer than we have money to pay an SRO?
>> No.
[47:05] » Okay.
[47:13] » I'll put a motion if we have the money
left over that we pay it. We need that
[47:19] have it in there
then when the school catches up, if they
[47:23] do catch up.
Not to exceed 90 days right now though
[47:27] because I don't know how much money we
have in there
[47:32] left.
>> 90 days is a good estimate.
[47:34] » Just over $4,000, isn't it?
>> It's actually almost six, but
[47:38] » Okay.
>> As the current
[47:40] contract or previous year contract, what
is left in the funds will cover about 3
[47:45] months. So, 90 days is appropriate.
>> Well, I'll I'll put it for 90 days.
[47:50] » I'll second.
>> We have a motion made and seconded to
[47:54] allow the payment to occur for 90 days.
All those in favor signify by saying I.
[47:59] » I.
>> Opposed?
[48:01] Opposed say sign. Motion carried.
>> Is there anything else?
[48:06] » Okay, good work.
[48:09] Wastewater.
[48:18] I don't know if you guys know this or
not, but the main lift rehab structure
[48:22] has been completed.
Um they just need to pick up their
[48:25] equipment for the bypass they had. They
haven't done that yet.
[48:30] But uh Ken Long stopped in and took a
look at it. It looks real good and they
[48:34] can.
>> Yeah.
[48:36] Interesting.
>> Yeah, it's interesting how they do that.
[48:40] Um also um somehow within the last month
or so, we ended up losing our wastewater
[48:47] treatment sign out there out front of
our wastewater department.
[48:52] So, I am looking into replacing it.
So, you might be seeing a quote for the
[48:59] next meeting on that one.
I've looked the stream, the fields, rode
[49:04] around in my side-by-side out in the
field behind my house. I cannot find it.
[49:07] So, I think maybe it
grew a pair of legs.
[49:14] Okay, underneath the street department,
uh reminder of everybody to everybody
[49:20] that our fall clean up in 20 2026 is
September 24th through the 26th.
[49:27] Any information that you need to get on
that, which I have some flyers that you
[49:32] will have here
what, beginning of September?
[49:36] At town hall, so you can read those.
Also,
[49:41] this is an asking for DLZ. DLZ is the
general contractor that will be building
[49:47] the new post office.
Um they are out asking if they can block
[49:52] the parking spots on the west M line, on
west M line next to the new post office
[49:58] project. So, those ones there on the
north side of M line, those four parking
[50:04] lots, and I think there's a couple of
non-parking areas.
[50:08] They want to place a storage
construction container there.
[50:12] So, they can put their stuff in there
cuz there won't be any room
[50:16] inside there when they're demoing.
So, they're asking the board if they can
[50:22] do that, and it They're saying something
somewhere around 4 to 5 months. So, then
[50:28] I'm assuming they're going to have it
out there the whole time.
[50:34] » What's that going to do for plow and
snow?
[50:38] » Well, we'll just have to plow around
them, I guess, Tony.
[50:42] You won't be able to plow the snow in
that area. Nobody will be allowed to
[50:45] park there, so
>> Well, I'm not
[50:47] I don't want friction from them because
because we have to plow snow around that
[50:52] container, and it
very well might They might have to dig
[50:55] it or something.
>> dig it out. They might have to take a
[50:58] pail or not a pail or but
shovel or something,
[51:02] but shovel and clean that out.
>> That was
[51:06] my question, too. Is I got I mean, are
you guys going to backdrag so they can
[51:09] get in the doors, or are we going to be
responsible We'll have that time.
[51:12] » going to try our best not to bury the
entrance to it. Now, along the side,
[51:18] that would be different, but to the
entrance to it, you know, we can try our
[51:21] best
you know, plow it in.
[51:25] » So, what you don't think that's going to
interfere with your time doing that? Cuz
[51:28] backdragging takes more, we know.
>> Yeah, I think we'll be just fine. We got
[51:31] to backdrag some of those areas anyway,
so
[51:35] » If they don't like it, they can move it.
>> Okay, make a motion.
[51:40] » I'll make a motion we allow them to have
it.
[51:43] Um,
put the storage container in the parking
[51:46] spots there
on the north side of the demolition area
[51:50] for the demolition crew.
>> It'll be on the south side of the
[51:54] demolition area on ML Street.
[51:58] » South side, yeah.
>> North side of ML Street.
[52:01] » Could I
modify that just a little bit? I want
[52:06] you, Stephen, to work with them and tell
them, "Okay, I We want it here."
[52:13] Because we need to keep it away from the
intersection just a little bit. We don't
[52:17] want to block I understand the
sidewalk's going to be blocked, but
[52:19] we've got kids that walk through there.
I don't want someone to not see a child,
[52:25] so it's going to have to be back far
enough from the intersection
[52:28] that we don't have that situation. So,
they can put it there provided you tell
[52:33] them exactly where they're going to put
it.
[52:35] » Okay. I think
>> I second the motion so amended.
[52:42] » Okay, we have a motion and amendment.
Second. All those in favor signify by
[52:47] saying aye.
>> Aye.
[52:49] » Aye.
>> Opposed same sign. Motion carries.
[52:51] » Obviously, the sidewalk that's right in
front of the building is not going to be
[52:55] walkable anymore, either. I mean, it's
not really walkable now. There isn't
[52:59] much of a room there.
For the public safety, you know, not to
[53:02] go right there in front of the building
while they're
[53:05] demoing it.
Also, on the water department, um
[53:11] our cleaning and inspection of the water
tower is now complete.
[53:15] Um we do have our
mixer running now.
[53:20] So, that is helping with the keeping the
chlorine residuals maintained and also
[53:26] keeping the sediments from building up
on the bottom of that water tower.
[53:30] I have not got that report back yet.
But, just from talking to the guys,
[53:36] they're thinking we could go a few more
years on the paint.
[53:40] So, that's a good thing.
[53:43] Also, moving on to the parks department,
I'm asking permission to purchase a 2016
[53:51] Kawasaki Kawasaki
4010 mule to help the park attendance
[53:58] duties.
Um, for whatever we have had out there
[54:02] now, I think we bought it like in 2008
or 2009 and it was used then.
[54:08] Um, this would help him is actually has
a it's a utility side-by-side.
[54:13] Um, so it has a bed on the back end of
it
[54:17] to help hold the tools and possibly
load, you know, trash or sticks or
[54:22] whatever else in there.
Um, I have two quotes from uh for two
[54:27] different ways on this Kawasaki. Um,
from Lake City Honda Kawasaki of Warsaw.
[54:34] One is with a 3-year service agreement,
which is an extended warranty. Um,
[54:39] that's for $8,999.72.
[54:44] And then with the no service contract,
that's a straight-up as is, uh, it'd be
[54:49] $7,361.72.
[54:55] I have drove the machine. I've inspected
the machine best of my abilities. I
[54:59] didn't see anything with it before they
even cleaned it up and I didn't see any
[55:04] problems with it.
[55:07] And he's got money in the budget for
that.
[55:12] We have any discussion or motion?
[55:18] » Well, between the two of three of us,
what do we think is the best option?
[55:26] » The 3-year service contract included or
without?
[55:29] » I think it's a lot for a 3-year service
contract, my personal opinion.
[55:33] » $1,600?
>> Yeah.
[55:35] » It's a used machine, we take a gamble.
I think it's worth the gamble.
[55:40] » I think it's worth it, too.
I mean, I think if we keep it serviced
[55:45] and all the more it's going to be used,
I don't think it's worth paying $1,600
[55:48] extra.
[55:53] » I would make the motion that the blacks
has got to be sold via to accept the
[55:58] quote for the as is
cost of $7,261.
[56:05] » Something keeps on
>> 300
[56:07] » 300
>> 300
[56:08] » I'll second that motion.
>> Been a motion made and seconded. All of
[56:13] those in favor signify by saying I.
Opposed signify
[56:18] Thank you.
[56:46] » Steven, I have to say I got a grandchild
that's 15 months old
[56:51] and last week my wife wanted to take our
grand baby to the park for the first
[56:55] time.
We went to Syracuse and looked at their
[56:58] parks and they're beautiful parks and
everything, but we couldn't find a swing
[57:03] where a baby could sit in that little
bucket swing
[57:07] till we got to Milford. Now, I didn't
get out and look at every individual
[57:10] thing in Syracuse, but I looked at it
from the road.
[57:13] We could see it clearly from Milford and
that's where she ended up taking our
[57:17] grand baby and I I just thought it was
great that we ended up in our own
[57:20] hometown park because she wanted to go
to Syracuse and I said, "Let's look at
[57:24] them all." And we ended up in Milford.
She did, I didn't, but I just thought it
[57:29] was neat that the park looks good.
>> Thank you.
[57:37] » We have anything else for waste water,
storm water, street water at all?
[57:44] » Keep up the good work.
[57:47] » Moving on to the clerk.
We have a motion to allow me to sign the
[57:52] bank reconciliation statement.
>> I'll make that motion.
[57:55] » I'll second it.
>> You have a motion made and seconded to
[57:58] allow us to pay the Commonwealth
>> Aye.
[58:00] » Aye.
>> Opposed same sign, motion carries.
[58:31] Commonwealth invoice.
>> All right, so I think the right is this
[58:37] way.
Um
[58:39] so this is just the monthly Commonwealth
invoice for the water project
[58:43] uh for the filtration plant.
And it is for $34,377.96.
[58:56] » Do we have a motion to approve the
Commonwealth invoice?
[59:00] » Just one question, Trisha, on the bottom
of the document I have there's an
[59:04] additional 750. Is that second?
>> It's a different
[59:07] » Different coming up.
I make a motion we pay the Commonwealth
[59:11] invoice for 37,000 plus.
>> I'll second it.
[59:16] » You have a motion made and seconded to
allow us to pay the Commonwealth
[59:19] invoice. All those in favor signify by
saying aye.
[59:22] » Aye.
>> Aye.
[59:23] » Opposed same sign, motion carries.
>> Yeah, sorry. I just didn't take that out
[59:27] before I scanned it.
>> No, I didn't know if it was an add-on or
[59:32] » That was the first ever contract that
you guys approved for the water bottle.
[59:35] » Okay, should okay.
[59:38] Okay, ordinance 2026 stage five dealing
with a salary ordinance amendment.
[59:45] » All right, so it's not in here either.
Yeah, nobody leave it only today. No,
[59:48] I'm just kidding. So, this um salary
ordinance is for a 50 cent per hour
[59:54] increase from 5 because he passed his
first license for the pesticide
[59:59] uh training that you guys had approved
at the last meeting. So, this is the
[1:00:02] first of probably hopefully two to come
when he passes the second license, but
[1:00:06] he got that seeding time or about it,
but he got that license.
[1:00:10] » Yeah, he got the core exam. He passed
the core exam, so he did pass half of
[1:00:14] it. So, now he's a registered
technician. He can spray under my
[1:00:19] supervision.
>> I make a motion we raise his pay 50
[1:00:24] cents like we
>> I agree with you.
[1:00:25] » I second.
>> Here's the motion being seconded. All
[1:00:29] those in favor signify by saying aye.
>> Aye.
[1:00:32] » Vote says aye. Motion carries.
[1:00:44] Fiber network at the filtration plant.
>> All right, so this is also kind of a
[1:00:48] joint Steven thing. Steven and Steven
work really, really hard.
[1:00:53] Um so, they want to get fiber at the new
water filtration plant.
[1:00:59] And so, there's a proposal from Goshen
Fiber Network who's really typically
[1:01:03] used for fiber and phone.
Um and there is a
[1:01:08] agreement here that you have to sign.
It's a site upgrade of $1,299
[1:01:14] set fee.
And then there is a monthly fee of $270
[1:01:19] for the lowest of the two options that
they had. and when I talked to him about
[1:01:24] it, he said the lowest option would be
fine, the 250 meg
[1:01:29] thing is the 3-year term that we had to
agree to and since that's more than our
[1:01:34] approval authority, you guys have to
approve of getting that since it's not
[1:01:37] existing.
So, um
[1:01:40] just want to make sure if you guys want
that, but he did talk to Bill Anderson
[1:01:43] about what is needed for the
um
[1:01:47] what do you call it?
>> telemetry
[1:01:49] » Yeah, telemetry system.
>> telemetry and SCADA
[1:01:52] » Yeah, and SCADA, that's what I was
thinking of.
[1:01:55] Um so, it should be sufficient um
according to Bill Anderson who is our
[1:01:59] installer for those services.
[1:02:04] » Okay, do we have any further discussion
on the fiber network agreement?
[1:02:10] If not, then we have a motion to accept.
[1:02:15] » I make a motion we accept the 250
meg.
[1:02:20] » the lower
>> Yeah.
[1:02:22] » the lower of the two if it's sufficient
and we are
[1:02:25] confident it will service the need.
That makes the most sense. We don't need
[1:02:31] more than we need.
>> It's a 3-year term, correct?
[1:02:35] » Yes.
>> I'll second.
[1:02:38] » Yeah, the motion has been seconded. All
those in favor signify by saying aye.
[1:02:42] Aye. Opposed, signify by saying nay. The
motion carries.
[1:03:07] Okay, next item.
[1:03:13] » All right, so
as part of the construction process, uh
[1:03:17] we have a couple items that we would
request for the council to declare
[1:03:23] excess so that we can
research avenues to install them.
[1:03:27] So, um
Steven might be able to help me out some
[1:03:31] of that, but the
the first item is the generator that is
[1:03:35] at the existing water treatment plant,
right, Steven?
[1:03:39] » Yes.
>> And so, we had discussed previously in
[1:03:42] different meetings that um it was to be
taken offline and we were going to maybe
[1:03:47] use it somewhere else where the town
could use it, but technically even this
[1:03:51] found that can't be used anywhere.
Um potentially, I guess you could say.
[1:03:56] » It's too small for their main lift
station and it's too big for the other
[1:04:01] ones. I mean, it's way over killed.
>> And then the other item that has come up
[1:04:07] is a transformer box.
We are getting a new one in the water
[1:04:13] filtration plant, and so we have an old
one that
[1:04:17] two of them We have two old ones that uh
have some value to someone.
[1:04:25] And so, in order for us to sell those or
get rid of those, um
[1:04:29] we'll have We have to follow certain
processes, but the first part of that
[1:04:32] process is for you guys to
deem it excess and then we can research
[1:04:37] how we're going what process we're going
to use to get rid of it. So, my idea
[1:04:41] would be to check with my preferred
option, right, to see if it can be done
[1:04:45] there, at which time I'll come back to
you guys and see if you want to set a
[1:04:49] reserve,
or we can advertise it and accept bids
[1:04:54] if um M.A.S.K. doesn't want to do that.
And there's other ways that we can do
[1:04:58] it, too, but those probably would be my
top two to look into
[1:05:01] um if you guys are interested in doing
that.
[1:05:04] » My opinion, and my opinion only, would
be that
[1:05:08] we would
look into M.A.S.K.'s selling the items
[1:05:12] in an auction sale for us because
with the amount of traffic they have and
[1:05:18] and advertising of it, I think we get
the highest and greatest value so versus
[1:05:23] trying to advertise ourself and and take
bids.
[1:05:27] » I just have one question about that
generator. This is a
[1:05:35] This is a what is.
Would there be any
[1:05:40] use
for that generator at Farview?
[1:05:45] » Over at the campground.
>> Okay. So, the one you have is sufficient
[1:05:49] for the needs there.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:54] » That was my question.
[1:06:02] » I'll put a motion that we
I'll put a motion that we uh
[1:06:08] get with Mettler and start an auction to
get rid of it instead of losing value
[1:06:13] just sitting around.
>> I'll second.
[1:06:17] » Any motion made and seconded to allow
Mettler's to look into selling those
[1:06:22] items for us?
All those in favor signify by saying
[1:06:25] aye.
>> Aye.
[1:06:26] » Aye.
>> Opposed same sign. Motion carries.
[1:06:29] » Do you guys want to do a reserve at all
or are you
[1:06:35] » I don't know.
>> What do you like to reserve on those
[1:06:38] items?
>> I have no idea what that generator would
[1:06:41] worth. I haven't really researched that
too much.
[1:06:45] » Maybe Stephen and I can talk about it
and then just let you know if we're if
[1:06:49] we feel comfortable setting a reserve.
How about that?
[1:06:52] And then we can talk about the next
meeting. I'm sure it won't be sold in
[1:06:55] the next 30 days.
>> Yeah, we got a full few months yet.
[1:06:58] » Yeah.
>> It's not ready to sell yet, is it?
[1:07:02] » No, no, no.
>> Right.
[1:07:03] » No.
>> Yeah.
[1:07:04] » Just trying to get prepared.
>> No, I understand.
[1:07:09] » And you have an idea of some sort.
>> That's the only adjustments that we
[1:07:15] have, right?
>> Yeah, the generator and the two
[1:07:17] transformers is all that we're talking
about right now.
[1:07:21] » Okay.
And
[1:07:23] you told the adjustments.
>> Um so then the utility adjustments are
[1:07:29] actually a positive
$293.83.
[1:07:36] Um I would say the majority of it is
probably refunds for overpayments, and
[1:07:41] then there were some late fees that were
added and a few were taken away.
[1:07:45] So,
there's not a lot of activity, but just
[1:07:48] a little bit there.
[1:07:50] » Do you have any discussion on the
utility adjustments?
[1:07:53] » I make a motion we accept the utility
adjustments.
[1:07:56] » I'll second it.
Since it's a positive, it's in our
[1:08:00] favor.
>> Yeah, the motion made and seconded. All
[1:08:02] those in favor, signify by saying aye.
>> Aye.
[1:08:05] » All those in favor, the motion carries.
>> Okay, and then I just have one more
[1:08:09] thing that I didn't actually have on the
agenda. And so, thank you for most of
[1:08:14] you, except for Mr. Michael. That was
very gracious
[1:08:18] to um start using the microphone, but
I've actually received a lot of
[1:08:22] complaints about people not being able
to hear.
[1:08:25] Um and so, I want this was like
something that I had in my office that I
[1:08:29] was like, "Let's try this." And see if
it helps, because it's not It's also the
[1:08:34] recording, but also people actually
sitting in the room.
[1:08:37] Like if they're on opposite opposite
sides of the room, they're having
[1:08:40] trouble hearing. So, I just wanted to
try to do a small attempt to set up all
[1:08:44] possible. I know it's kind of clunky,
and we're figuring it out. Maybe I'll
[1:08:48] get some more microphones, but
me These are meat thermometers, so
[1:08:52] they're sitting in my office. So, I
thought let's try and see if this works.
[1:08:55] So, hopefully it helps.
Um I think good.
[1:08:59] And so, that's I I know I just kind of
forced it upon everybody, but I don't
[1:09:03] have a better solution without without
adding a lot of technology know-how and
[1:09:07] that is not me. So,
I just want to say thank you guys for
[1:09:11] humoring me and trying this new way to
do meetings. So,
[1:09:18] thank you.
>> Okay.
[1:09:20] » And not to single Tom out, but just say
but to single Tom out.
[1:09:26] » Do we have anything else for the clerk?
[1:09:32] Keep up the good work.
Moving on to accounts payable vouchers.
[1:09:41] » I make a motion to accept the accounts
payable vouchers.
[1:09:44] » I'll second it.
>> Being a motion made and seconded, all
[1:09:47] those in favor signify by saying aye.
>> Aye.
[1:09:50] » Opposed, same sign. Motion carries.
[1:10:04] There is no further business, do we have
a motion for adjournment?
[1:10:07] » I'll make a motion we adjourn.
>> I'll second.
[1:10:11] » Being a motion made and seconded, all
those in favor signify
[1:10:14] by saying aye.
>> Aye.
[1:10:16] » Opposed, same sign. Motion carries.
>> Thank you.