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» See them.

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Are you ready, city manager?

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>> We're ready, may we? Thank you.

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» We're ready, may we? Thank you.

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>> Perfect. It is now 6 pm. I will call the

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» Perfect. It is now 6 pm. I will call the

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August 11th, 2026 city council meeting

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to order, and council member Gobieski

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can lead us in the pledge of allegiance

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this evening.

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Leah, roll call, please.

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>> Mayor Vigny,

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» Mayor Vigny,

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>> here.

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» here.

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>> Mayor PMDuk,

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» Mayor PMDuk,

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>> here.

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» here.

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>> Council member Cavaleri.

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» Council member Cavaleri.

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Council member Steckler,

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>> here.

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» here.

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>> Council member Allison

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» Council member Allison

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>> here.

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» here.

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>> Council member Paddock,

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» Council member Paddock,

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>> present.

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>> Council member Bobki

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» Council member Bobki

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>> here.

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» here.

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Council member Cavaleria told us that he

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would be on vacation this week. Do I

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have a motion to excuse?

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>> So moved. Second.

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» So moved. Second.

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>> I have a motion and a second. All those

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» I have a motion and a second. All those

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in favor say I.

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>> Any against? Any abstensions?

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» Any against? Any abstensions?

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Next up, I'll move on to audience

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communication. Is there anyone in the

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chambers who would like to speak?

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Is there anyone online who would like to

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speak this evening?

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another opportunity to speak at the end

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of the council meeting.

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Next, we will move on to presentations

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and we have a financial and investment

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report for the period ending June 30th,

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and finance director Lumbad is going to

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speak.

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>> Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council.

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» Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council.

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while, so I have three items for you

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tonight. But, uh, to start off, we are

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reviewing the financial and investment

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report for, um, the 18-month period

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ending June 30 of, um, 2026.

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Let me just um get my Oh, may I just uh

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Okay. But anyway, um so to start off, we

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are um going to review um two economic

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indicators. And the reason why I um

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we're reviewing them is because for one,

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the consumer price index um is, you

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know, a measure of price or it's the

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index of price and this affects our

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sales tax. So when the CPI goes up, our

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um sales tax revenue generally tends to

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grow as well. Um but also because it is

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price it's the cost of goods that we buy

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then it also impacts the cost for the

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city including our M. And then for the

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federal so for a consumer price index um

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as of June 2026 the consumer price index

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for the city of for the Seattle and

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Tacoma area which is the orange line is

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at about um 4.1% and then the one uh in

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blue which is the national average is

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right around 3.8.

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this indicator is the cost of um money.

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Um and again it's um helps helps us

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understand why our investment is

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growing. So as that rate goes up um then

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the investment return uh is also higher.

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federal funds rate goes up because of

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this cost of money, the borrowing um

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that affects the our rate revenue, which

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is for mortgage, would also tend to go

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on the opposite side, right? Because if

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mortgage if the 30-year mortgage is

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higher, then there's less um activity in

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the real estate. And so since um

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since let's see June of 2024

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um that rate has been um elevated and

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primarily because uh the federal funds

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of the finance open market committee are

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trying they're trying to set the policy

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to influence the economy so that we can

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hit the 2% target for our CPI. Um but as

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of today um in their last meeting they

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have not changed the federal funds rate.

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to 3.75%.

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Um now for our benchmark we are at 18

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months. So over the 18month period we

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our benchmark would be 75% 75% collected

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or 75% spent. For the general fund

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revenues, we are at 70 almost 71% and

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our expenditure looks as if we are

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spending less, right? Because we are now

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at about 60 um 69% right here.

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revenue um majority of our uh sources of

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revenue are above um or at or above the

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benchmark except for um our interfund or

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intergovernmental revenues which is um

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collected only about 40 um 46%.

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see our in uh excuse me fines and

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penalties and this includes our um

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traffic um infraction collections. Um if

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you recall um a couple of meetings ago

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uh police chief provided you with

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quarter 2 of 2026 and it shows um a

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decline in traffic contacts. That's

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about about 9% or 192% in traffic

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contacts. So that has also reduced um

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started to see a decline in our um

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collections. Um let me just go back to

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the intergovernmental revenue. Recall

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a few months ago um council uh

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authorized the grant for the DOC for the

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climate change. So that increased the

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budget numbers but we it because it's

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reimbursement based that the timing of

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that is the one that's causing us to

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show us if we are not truly or up to

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speed with our benchmark. And then the

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other thing um that's lagging in our uh

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general fund revenue is the interfund

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transfer. So recall that um the uh when

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we received the ARPA funding, we said

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that we were going to transfer any

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interest from the ARPA fund to the

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general fund. But since um March or

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April of last year, we have fully

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exhausted or dispersed all of the ARPA

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fund. So there are no um principal

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amount to be invested in. So there's no

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future transfer of interest from ARPA.

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So, moving Oh, there we go.

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For our sales tax, we were about um a

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little over uh about 76% collected. Um

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2026 the highest um increases in sectors

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from information. Um so you might say or

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what we could say we could tell from the

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um data is that for the construction

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real estate market we are seeing a lot

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more expenses on um DIY projects or

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improvements home improvements. So we're

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see we're seeing some of that numbers

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come through around this time. But also

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for the information um sector this

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increase is primarily um because of the

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change in law. So sometime in July of uh

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2025 after the legislation um session

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ended um they authorized or they RCW was

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revised such that now certain services

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are now uh subject to sales tax retail

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retail sales tax and that would be for

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services or IT services including

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webinars or live presentations. So those

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are now taxable uh services.

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So overall we are um our sales tax is um

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growing. Again this is a factor of the

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the um inflation because of CPI is

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elevated but at the same time there was

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a change in in law uh relating to the IT

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services or the um advertising on the

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internet. So overall, um whether it's

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outside or within the city of Mil Creek,

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uh both um collection from these

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locations are um are up.

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Now on our general fund expenditures, um

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I noted earlier in summary that overall

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we are about 69% spent. Um and this um

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by type we have about 22 million of

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general fund spending of which 62% is

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related to salary and benefits. That's

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about 18 months of it. And our

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maintenance and operations about 34%

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um and this includes this number

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includes our jail cost, our district

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court, our legal cost

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and any other consultants that we may

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have. And then our debt service of about

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1%. Um this is just a uh presentation

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regarding um the uh the change in how we

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report our leases as well as our um

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subscriptionbased um information

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application tech applications. Um and

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then for capital which is 3% this

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includes the um RPB purchase of the snow

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plow. Um on the right hand side by if we

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look at the same set of data which is

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the $22.1 million um it shows that

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uh again we are 69% spent but this

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number both the the the the budget and

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the actual numbers includes certain

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items like uh RPB and the climate

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change. If we remove the RPB cost and

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budget as well as the climate change

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grant and the cost related to that, we

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would be at um about 21 million spent or

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72%. So, a little bit closer than um

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than what we than what it looks like

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Um for the this the um following slides

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departments that are above the benchmark

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and one of them is the city manager's

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office. You could see the blue line is

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the projected budget or spending over

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the 12-month period and the green line

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is the actual number and the um overage

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is primarily from um city attorney cost.

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So, u majority of the city attorney

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costs uh are reported under the city

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manager's office and that may include um

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any of the initiatives that the city has

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done over the past um 18 months

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including any annexation

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um legal advice that we needed, anything

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related to the TBD, to the utility tax,

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any code compliance might be in here as

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well. Um on the HR side, it's the same

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thing. Um the uh we are also over the

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benchmark and that's primarily because

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employment um items are reflected in

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this department including um and just

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also recall that in 2025 we had the

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labor negotiation with um police guild

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and so that is in here as well as the um

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employment settlements that we um had in

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the past year.

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And then for non-EP departmental, non-EP

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departmental includes um you can see the

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spikes here at the beginning of the year

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and sometime in January again of 2026

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when we uh pay out the annual um

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insurance liability to WC WCIA as well

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as some of the annual payments for our

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membership and dues for various

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organizations. But specifically for the

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month of June, um this included um two

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dues that um just because of timing it

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it showed up and those are the uh

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payments that we or assessments paid to

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the Puget Sound Clean Air as well as the

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Puget Sound Regional Council.

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Okay, I will skip then this next slide

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for a bit. I'll just keep going on on

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our other um funds here. Um for the

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citywide legal fees, as of June 30, we

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are about um 1.4

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million spent or about 91% of our by

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annual budget. Um however, if we back

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out [snorts] because this cost again,

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this is citywide cost. So that includes

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our city attorney for Ballard's bar as

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well as the um public defense and the

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indigent um prosecution. Um they're all

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in here. Um the impacts of these um

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would include the um change in the

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standard of of case loads for our

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indigent defense. So recall that within

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the next um 10 years starting 2026 we

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have to start reducing the workload per

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defense attorney from um 90 to now to a

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100 to 40 case loads and then the one

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for misdemeanor is substantially also

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going to change from 300 to 400

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currently down to I want to say 100 case

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loads. So instead of having one um

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defense uh attorney uh we now have to

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contract out more of that.

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Okay. Um now moving on to our REIT fund.

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So REIT um revenues uh we've collected

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71% it is still below the benchmark um

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but that includes both um this number

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includes both the investment as well as

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the read. Um, if we look at the read for

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the six-month period, uh, we've

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collected 402. And if we compare that

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number over a five-year period, um, it's

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about 39%

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um, below the average. So again, that's

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a factor of because the federal funds

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rate are high right now. So as of today,

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um, the average 30-year fixed mortgage

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is about 6.76%.

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Um, but in 2019, right around this time,

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it was at um 3.15%.

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Yes, Council Member Stler.

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>> Quick question. I was noticing the um

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» Quick question. I was noticing the um

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regrowth in 23, 24, 25.

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Um those are obviously full year numbers

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and I assume your 26 number is just a

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six-month number,

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>> correct? Correct. What fueled the growth

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» correct? Correct. What fueled the growth

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in 23 24 25 when the market was still

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pretty soft and interest rates are still

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pretty high? Why was the re up on a

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trend upwards? So I think uh around this

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time our um I think it would just be and

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this is just an assumption for me um

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without looking at the underlying data

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because when I looked at the data I was

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looking more earlier years in 2019 and

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in 2020 2021 but not further down here.

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Um but I believe right around here even

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though the um interest rate was high

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there were still volume um a lot of

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volume. Um but I want to say that

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sometime in between among these three

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years there was one big um transfer of

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uh a real estate transaction. So,

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anything above a a $10 million real

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estate transaction is really going to

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bump us up, right? As opposed to like,

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you know, um um just a million dollar

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transfer versus um let's say a 50

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million transfer. And that um in 2019

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and in 2021, we saw those transfers.

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There were two transfers. Um in 20 2019

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the self storage um was a transaction

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and then in 2021 it was the Monta

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property.

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» Okay. And then so for surface water uh

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they're both below the benchmark. Uh

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revenues are at 4 uh 2% and then our

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expenditure is only 21% spend or 2.9. Um

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but we anticipate that um since the

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start of the summer the um repairs the

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big projects that we uh that we've uh

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moving forward with uh I think it's the

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cash basin. So remember that's a $7

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million project over a two-year period.

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They have initiated or started the

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project as well. Um so we anticipate

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that in the next couple months we're

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going to see a big jump in here. Um,

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and then let me just go back to the RPB.

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So, in your packet as well, I provided

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um a summary of what we've spent so far

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on RPB. Um, and so that we've spent

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about one almost $2 million of it. Um we

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anticipate to carry over about 1.5

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million and the projects that will be be

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carrying over into 202728

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um bianium budget will be in the last

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column right here about 1.5 million.

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Um if there are no questions I'd like to

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move to the investment um item.

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>> Yes, Council Member Stler.

399
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» Yes, Council Member Stler.

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Actually I I I see my answer on this

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chair. Thank you.

402
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>> Okay. Thank you. Okay. So um for our

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» Okay. Thank you. Okay. So um for our

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investment, so as of June 30, uh the

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excess um money that the city has about

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42.5 million is invested between LGIP uh

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about 93% and then US obligations about

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7%. Um to date we have received about

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696

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or 86,000 of interest from LGIP that's

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has been reinvested um into the fund

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whereas for our US um obligations these

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are we have three separate um sec US

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securities that are held in safekeeping

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um and we received about 60,000 of

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interest from that we did not have um

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any new activities there was a maturity

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um in the last six months, but we didn't

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reinvest or buy any new obligations for

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that because we needed the cash flow to

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get us through this six month. Um mayor,

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that concludes my report. If there are

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any other questions,

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>> does anyone have questions?

425
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» Everybody seems quiet. Um I actually

426
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have a question. Um if you could go

427
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back, I should have said something when

428
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you had it up. I have just a quick

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question for my memory on um like the

430
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second back. I was just curious on the

431
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line items when it comes to the flock

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cameras. Um so the next one is that

433
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money that we've already allocated

434
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because where we spent the um we went

435
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ahead and paid up front.

436
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>> Is that what that Okay, that's what I

437
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» Is that what that Okay, that's what I

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thought. But I just wanted to make sure.

439
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>> So there's still remaining the second.

440
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» So there's still remaining the second.

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So you authorized a 2-year trial. It's a

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two-year subscription for it. The 97,000

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that you're seeing would include the

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installation cost plus the first year of

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subscription. Okay. The second year of

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subscription, which is the remaining

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86,000, has not yet been paid out.

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>> Okay, perfect. That's what I thought,

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» Okay, perfect. That's what I thought,

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but I just want to make sure that I was

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thinking right. Did anyone else have any

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questions then?

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>> Nope.

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» Nope.

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All right. Thank you, Arina.

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Let's see. I guess you don't get to go

457
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anywhere because now we're up to new

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business. [laughter] And we have a

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resolution related to US bank custody

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account application and custody

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agreement.

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>> Thank you, mayor. Um so again, I am here

463
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» Thank you, mayor. Um so again, I am here

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tonight because um we're asking council

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to authorize us to um execute a um US

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bank custody account application and

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custody agreement. So currently um the

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investments that we have with US banks

469
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so again we have three US securities and

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according to our um financial management

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policy 300-5

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um any securities that we have must be

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held by an independent third party and

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this in this case it's the US security

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excuse me US bank safekeeping

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operations. However, in April, they told

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us that effective April that they will

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transition us to a new service um

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operations which is the investment

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advisory services group um that has a

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better uh uh or an expanded um services

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for investment as well as they are

483
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supposed to be streamlining their um

484
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their operations for for that.

485
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Um now so uh we have RCW35A.4.05

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that authorizes the investment of any

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excess cash on um um on various um on

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various types of or vehicles and then

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supplemented by the city's investment

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policy. It also note the this policy

491
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provided how diversified or how we can

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um what types of investments we can have

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and so in which case this um policy

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authorized us that hey 100% of your

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excess money you could put it in the

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Washington um state uh local government

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investment plan or you could continue to

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do your own investment you using your US

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Treasury obligations if you were such a

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big agency you could actively do the

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investments. Um, and then all the other,

502
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um, it could be a combination of of any

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of these other investment types.

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Um, and so I wanted to, um, show you as

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uh, I think that says July 31. Um, we

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have $40 million of, um, excess funds.

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Um, and I'm showing you LGIP, we have

508
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37.4 million. US Bank we have three

509
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million with LGIP according to their um

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reports their as of July 31 their in

511
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their portfolio so not just the city of

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Mil Creek but all of their other

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investments that are in there are they

514
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have diversified or they have

515
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investments um allocation as noted here

516
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so they have um agency 30% you know cash

517
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and cash equivalents 9% they have

518
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repurchase agreements um US treasuries

519
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is 9%. Um and so the interest we're

520
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asked uh for our safekeeping again we

521
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have three that's equal to you know 3

522
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million um in in cash and then for 2025

523
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we have a almost a 1.6 earnings um on

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LGIP and 131,000 in US Bank. So if we

525
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compare it's almost the same. it's about

526
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you know about 3 4% um return in

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investment and the annual fees of

528
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between the two is also you know 01% of

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the value of the investment. So in 2025,

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not an issue. They're kind of like

531
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similar. But now when we go to 2026,

532
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um we have um almost exa again exactly

533
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the same. And so if nothing changes

534
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with shifting from safekeeping to the

535
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investment advisory services, there's no

536
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issue. But however, because of the

537
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shift, the cost structure or the fee

538
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structure is also now different. So with

539
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the safekeeping, we were only paying $20

540
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a month or about $400 a year plus a $15,

541
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you know, for every transaction. But now

542
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,600
with the investment with a shift to the

543
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,400
investment advisory, it'll be about

544
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,840
1,500 a year. Um, but it would be

545
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,559
inclusive of all the transactional fees

546
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,520
that we're paying and that's about a

547
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600
273%

548
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,520
increase of the 2026 estimated fees, but

549
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,440
it would include all of these services.

550
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,320
Um so our next steps is we are asking

551
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,320
that you authorize your finance director

552
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480
which is the designated treasury of of

553
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,640
the city to uh authorize to one complete

554
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,279
the account um application for this

555
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:33,440
change as well as to enter into the

556
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,159
custody agreement. Um but we are also

557
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:38,799
recommending at some point to phase out

558
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,240
the individual holdings from um US bank

559
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960
securities by 2027. So the three

560
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,120
investments uh vehicles that we have are

561
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,919
going to mature if they're not called

562
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:53,679
earlier will mature in 2027 at least I

563
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:55,679
want to say September all of them would

564
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:57,919
have matured and so at that at that

565
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:00,480
point then we are recommending not to go

566
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,360
out and invest um separately for

567
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,080
diversification purposes because LGIP

568
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,640
provides the diversification anyway for

569
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,400
the city. Um and then if we do not

570
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,400
diversify and we continue to pay the

571
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,480
higher cost, it will not be

572
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,679
uh I I because the the cost would be 01

573
00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:27,200
with LGIP, but with this new fee, the

574
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,400
cost would be 06. So it's a little bit

575
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,320
higher. Not a lot, but it's still

576
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,440
higher. Um and then we continue to just

577
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,149
invest 100% with LGIP.

578
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:43,520
Um and so for our proposed council

579
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,799
motion is for um council to authorize

580
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,679
the um application to the investment

581
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:52,320
advisory services.

582
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,000
That concludes my report. Mayor, I'm

583
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,200
happy to answer any questions.

584
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,710
>> Sure. Any questions?

585
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,760
» Council Paddock,

586
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,909
>> clarification question. So just to be

587
00:28:01,909 --> 00:28:01,919
» clarification question. So just to be

588
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:03,440
clear,

589
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,200
moving the funds cost us less. we get

590
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,559
more divers diversification.

591
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,240
Um

592
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,720
do you mean after we um after all the uh

593
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,720
after all the investments that we have

594
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,279
now after they mature if we move them to

595
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:25,360
LGIP it would be neutral to us because

596
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,039
LGIP already provides the

597
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,720
diversification that we have so there's

598
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,720
no additional benefit or even increase

599
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,799
in the um uh as it in the return because

600
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:36,960
it's the same but the cost is the one

601
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,880
that's making it now more costly for us

602
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,640
to continue with the individual

603
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,840
investments.

604
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,669
>> Got it. So, it's cheaper for us to go

605
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:43,679
» Got it. So, it's cheaper for us to go

606
00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:45,679
into the more diversified area.

607
00:28:45,679 --> 00:28:46,950
>> Okay, that's what I was asking. I just

608
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:46,960
» Okay, that's what I was asking. I just

609
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,399
wanted to confirm I heard that right.

610
00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:49,360
Okay,

611
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,870
>> thank you.

612
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:50,880
» thank you.

613
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,909
>> Any other questions?

614
00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:59,600
» Mayor, I'll make a motion. I

615
00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:59,990
>> Okay,

616
00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:00,000
» Okay,

617
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,669
>> it does right

618
00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:01,679
» it does right

619
00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:03,350
>> adopt uh I make a motion to adopt a

620
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:03,360
» adopt uh I make a motion to adopt a

621
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,640
resolution authorizing the finance

622
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,120
director to execute the US bank custody

623
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,360
account application and custody

624
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,320
agreement.

625
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,110
>> Second. I have a motion and a second.

626
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:13,120
» Second. I have a motion and a second.

627
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,480
Would you like to speak to the motion,

628
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,520
council member Stackler? I

629
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,190
>> think it's pretty self-explanatory and

630
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:17,200
» think it's pretty self-explanatory and

631
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,720
and Armenia has done a great job. Our

632
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,240
finance director explained that to us

633
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,440
the benefits of this.

634
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,029
>> Thank you. All right. Would the would

635
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:23,039
» Thank you. All right. Would the would

636
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,279
council member goes like to speak to the

637
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,440
motion? All right.

638
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Would anyone else like to discuss the

639
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,679
motion?

640
00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:33,919
All right. All those in favor say I.

641
00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:34,389
>> I.

642
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:34,399
» I.

643
00:29:34,399 --> 00:29:35,029
>> I.

644
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:35,039
» I.

645
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:38,710
>> Any against? Any abstensions? Motion

646
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:38,720
» Any against? Any abstensions? Motion

647
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,549
passes. 6. Thank you.

648
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,200
Next up, we have a study session for

649
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,360
code enforcement staffing discussion.

650
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360
Did I skip something? I'm skipping

651
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,000
straight down. Sorry. Next up, we have a

652
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
resolution related to amendment number

653
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080
one to the building official plan review

654
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640
and inspection services contract with

655
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Safeuilt Washington LLC. Jeff Ryan, our

656
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,840
community development and planning

657
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,200
director will lead us in that

658
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,520
presentation. Sorry, I jumped straight

659
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840
down to Jeff but in the wrong spot.

660
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,389
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening,

661
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:14,399
» Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening,

662
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:17,760
council, Mayor, Mayor Pert. Um today I'm

663
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,000
going to be bringing forward you a quick

664
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,399
um presentation on our building services

665
00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:24,399
professional services agreement. Um we

666
00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:27,760
have to which we'll dive into. Um so the

667
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,679
goal today is to understand how we

668
00:30:29,679 --> 00:30:31,840
outsource our building services to

669
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520
through safeuilt and um and go through

670
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240
the amendment that extends the amount of

671
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640
um not to exceed amount as part of that

672
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880
contract.

673
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,679
So, just as a quick reminder, um the

674
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:48,000
city of Mil Creek does not employ a

675
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,679
building official and we do not have

676
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,480
plans reviewers. Um and so that means

677
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,960
all these critical functions that uh

678
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,960
have to be performed by state law, um we

679
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,559
have someone else do it for us. So,

680
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,760
every time there's a someone opens a new

681
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,200
business and they have to go and make

682
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,640
sure that everything is built safely,

683
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,240
that's a building official. Every time

684
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,399
someone wants to put in a water heater

685
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,159
and make sure it's installed correctly,

686
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:14,000
we have to send an inspector to do that.

687
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,600
Every time someone wants to build an

688
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,480
ADU, um, someone has to review the

689
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360
actual blueprints to make sure that that

690
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,559
is being built to, you know, safe

691
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,000
standards. It's not going to blow up in

692
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,679
the event of an earthquake or something.

693
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:29,360
Um, so that's what the plan review,

694
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,720
building official, and inspection

695
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,760
services are. Um in 20 the uh earlier

696
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,039
this year as part of 2026 1984 we

697
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,200
entered in a contract with Safeuilt who

698
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,000
has been our contracted provider for oh

699
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,600
I would say five seven years now. Um,

700
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,960
and the original amount was purposely

701
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,039
kept at a small level because we weren't

702
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,600
really sure at the time what was going

703
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,519
to happen with this possible code

704
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,440
enforcement/insspector position that

705
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,000
might have impacted the safeu contract,

706
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,399
which we'll go into in the future study

707
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:06,880
session. Um, and then the other reason

708
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,679
why that we blew through the initial

709
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:12,000
aotted funds for this is inspection

710
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,360
costs have been significantly higher

711
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,760
than expected. Um and um we we can kind

712
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,760
of go into more about that. Um and the

713
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,080
other thing to know about this is um

714
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,840
this is necessary work. Cities are

715
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,360
required to do permitting. They're

716
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,799
required to do inspections and stuff

717
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,320
like that. And we have no one on staff

718
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,039
that is certified to do that work. Um so

719
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,480
escalating cost. So just a quick note

720
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,720
about this. Um since Q1 2025, um plan

721
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120
review fees kind of bounce on a pretty

722
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,279
predictable basis. Usually you get a lot

723
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:42,720
of plan reviews in the spring because

724
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,880
people want to build in the summer. Um,

725
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,120
but you would normally expect your

726
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,760
inspection services to kind of bounce

727
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,440
delayed like that, right? Where they're

728
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,120
going to be more busy in the summer when

729
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,120
everyone's doing their roofing work and

730
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,799
less busy in the winter because no one's

731
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,480
building. But what we're seeing actually

732
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
is a consistent climb in our overall

733
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,679
inspection costs. Um, part of this is

734
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:05,440
because of um, safe builds building

735
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,039
practices. They've changed the some of

736
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,960
their niches of their contract. Some of

737
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,480
this because of higher fees with current

738
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,640
scheduling. Um and then also growing

739
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,640
demand for building code administration.

740
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760
By that I mean um you know every time

741
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,000
there's a change of use for a building

742
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,360
um we have to have a building official

743
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,799
look at that and every time they look at

744
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,919
it that's you know 140 bucks. Um so

745
00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,240
that's something um that drives up those

746
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,360
inspection costs. Um without further ado

747
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,600
um so the fiscal impact on this um no

748
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,159
budget amendment is is required for this

749
00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:38,720
is already budgeted and also just a

750
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,320
thing to keep in mind with building

751
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,000
services all costs are always offset by

752
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,559
revenue. Um this is taking like for

753
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,480
example plan review when we pay safe

754
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880
bill 65% of all of our plan review

755
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320
checks that we take so for every dollar

756
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,039
that we send safe that we collect from a

757
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,679
plan review check safe bill will take 65

758
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:03,279
cents um and the inspection the ratio it

759
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,880
is about for every dollar we make on

760
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760
permitting they take about 30 cents um

761
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,720
for the actual inspections part. So, um,

762
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:13,040
all this to say is that all costs are

763
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,800
offset by building permit revenue. So,

764
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,119
this isn't necessarily a a net negative

765
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,040
to the city and that everything is

766
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,480
budgeted for. Um, with that, happy to

767
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,560
entertain um any discussion or answer

768
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,520
any questions and um hopefully a motion.

769
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,790
>> Any questions?

770
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:32,800
» Any questions?

771
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,030
>> No questions.

772
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:35,040
» No questions.

773
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,399
I'll move to adopt a resolution

774
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:38,159
authorizing the city manager to execute

775
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,839
agreement number one to the professional

776
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:41,679
services agreement with Safeuilt

777
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,159
Washington LLC increasing the contracts

778
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,599
not to exceed amount $100,000 for

779
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,679
building official plan review and

780
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,280
inspection services.

781
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,750
>> Second. I have a motion and a second.

782
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:53,760
» Second. I have a motion and a second.

783
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,320
Would you like to speak to the motion?

784
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,040
No. Would you like to speak?

785
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Would anyone like to comment on the

786
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,160
motion? We are chatty this evening. All

787
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,680
those in favor say I.

788
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:05,990
>> I.

789
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:06,000
» I.

790
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,710
>> I.

791
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:06,720
» I.

792
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,390
>> Any against? Any abstensions? Motion

793
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:10,400
» Any against? Any abstensions? Motion

794
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,640
passes. 6.

795
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Thank you. Now we will move down to the

796
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,280
exciting study session. Um code

797
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,040
enforcement staffing discussion.

798
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,670
>> Sure. Thank you, mayor. Um again, Jeff

799
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:23,680
» Sure. Thank you, mayor. Um again, Jeff

800
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,440
Ryan, uh director of community

801
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,599
development planning. Um so this is

802
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:28,960
probably the fourth time I've come to

803
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,640
talk to you about this issue. Um

804
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,920
hopefully the last um the last time few

805
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,160
couple times we talked about it the main

806
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,320
kind of the cliffhanger we kind of left

807
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,520
it on is we do a part-time position, do

808
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,440
we do full-time or do we just do

809
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,640
maintain the status quo. Um so the the

810
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,720
ultimate aim of today's study session is

811
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:53,520
to um seek direction from council on

812
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,520
what kind of position you would like to

813
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,960
have considered as part of next year's

814
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,880
as part of the benium budgeting process.

815
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,640
So it's not necessarily you'd be

816
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480
authorizing the creation of the new

817
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
position tonight but rather you would be

818
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,280
directing us to in conclude it in our

819
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,440
budget deliberations and our forthcoming

820
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,240
budget deliberations. Um, so on the

821
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,160
agenda today, we'll be understand

822
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,240
hopefully reviewing how code enforcement

823
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,920
in Mil Creek works and review ways to

824
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,920
improve code enforcement outcomes by

825
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,920
reviewing the background status quo and

826
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,040
then what exactly would be the jobs of

827
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,880
these part-time position and this

828
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,359
full-time position? How does the RPO,

829
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:33,359
the rental registration impact this? And

830
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:35,040
then what would the costs be?

831
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,430
>> Yeah.

832
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:35,440
» Yeah.

833
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,470
>> Yes, sir.

834
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:36,480
» Yes, sir.

835
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,030
>> Quick question. Um,

836
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:39,040
» Quick question. Um,

837
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,200
why would we need to approve your adding

838
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,640
a position into the budget? Isn't that

839
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,839
your you're right when you put together

840
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:47,200
your budget to present to us that we're

841
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,560
going to add these positions here and

842
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,960
here? Why why do we need to approve this

843
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,320
one? Is there something special?

844
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,910
>> Um, I would just like to get your input.

845
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:53,920
» Um, I would just like to get your input.

846
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,079
I would like to have a a strong

847
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:57,839
understanding of what council's desire

848
00:36:57,839 --> 00:36:59,760
is and how he would like for me to plan

849
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,839
for addressing code enforcement and

850
00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:04,160
potentially inspection services. Um,

851
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,000
mostly, you know, I just want to make

852
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,400
sure that when we bring forward that

853
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,400
position as part of the banning budget,

854
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,359
I've done so at your direction and had

855
00:37:13,359 --> 00:37:14,960
your opportunity to have your formal

856
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,160
input and guidance.

857
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,670
>> Okay, fair enough.

858
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:17,680
» Okay, fair enough.

859
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,150
>> Um, just as a quick reminder, um, we've

860
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:20,160
» Um, just as a quick reminder, um, we've

861
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,880
had an increased volume of permitting

862
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,240
134% since 2023. Um, planners are acting

863
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,680
as stop gap field enforcers. Um and then

864
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,599
um every time we have planners working

865
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,119
on that um it's um also displacing our

866
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,359
statuto permitting work and also

867
00:37:37,359 --> 00:37:38,880
planners are not trained in code

868
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,440
enforcement um in any sense of the word.

869
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,240
Um inspection services also contemplate

870
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,760
as we discuss this is inspection

871
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920
services. We just talked about safe

872
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,040
built and how they provide that

873
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,480
inspection services. Um, the issue that

874
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,560
I wanted to flag to the council, as I've

875
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,160
previously discussed, is that, um, the

876
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,680
guy that comes to your house to make

877
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,680
sure the AC is installed correctly is

878
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,160
often the city's first point of contact

879
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,560
with the public and the residents. Um,

880
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560
that's someone that you want to be under

881
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,960
your control fully in terms of customer

882
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,880
service, expectations, training, stuff

883
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,119
like that. And um you know there is some

884
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:20,480
um risk that comes with off outsourcing

885
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,560
the person who is going into our

886
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040
resident's homes. Um also there is a

887
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,079
significant res um loss revenue that

888
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,880
happens. So like I said before about 30

889
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,079
cents to the dollar is paid roughly for

890
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,119
every building permit that we issue um

891
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:38,560
is diverted to this third party

892
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,079
provider. Um, and you'll see that's

893
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:41,760
where our cost savings come when we talk

894
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,359
about the full-time versus the part-time

895
00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:45,200
inspection. And then also there is

896
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,800
service gaps. I mentioned before that

897
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,800
there um having no house no in-house

898
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,800
inspector means that we don't have

899
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,800
anyone on hand that can answer questions

900
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,599
about the the the building code or

901
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,680
attend preapp meetings for that. By that

902
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,880
I mean, you know, Justin and Serena, my

903
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,720
my planners are terrific at answering

904
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,560
questions about zoning, right? We can

905
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,160
tell you all we can talk all day about

906
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,839
setbacks and where buildings are

907
00:39:11,839 --> 00:39:14,240
supposed to go on a site plan, but we

908
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,560
cannot tell you what kind of nut is

909
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,400
required to secure a water heater

910
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,359
safely. No idea. I cannot tell you what

911
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:26,000
kind of joist is required for what kind

912
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,640
of roofs. Not our bag. That is something

913
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,079
that's a special training and

914
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,839
requirement we do not have. And

915
00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:33,440
presently, every time we get those

916
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,000
questions, we have to refer to our our

917
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,440
um thirdparty provider, which I

918
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
mentioned before. One of the changes

919
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,599
that we've had and why you're seeing an

920
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,800
increase in cost is um they used to have

921
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,320
a good old just put it plainly, there

922
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,800
used to be a different person in safe

923
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,240
who would answer a lot of these

924
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,720
questions just out of the goodness of

925
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,960
his heart. And that's changed now. Um

926
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,040
and they've changed the way that they're

927
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,119
counting service questions and stuff

928
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,119
like that. So that means every little

929
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:08,400
question like that is available now. Um

930
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,359
so that means that also um there are

931
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:13,359
also other ancillary issues like for

932
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:16,800
example um visibility on certain

933
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,839
business licenses and for like being

934
00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:22,640
able to ensure that when someone says

935
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,920
that their their business that might be

936
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,200
originally have a certificate of

937
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,800
occupancy for a cafe that ensures that

938
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,560
the new business in there has the same

939
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960
kind of occupancy status and not like I

940
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,800
don't know a church or something that's

941
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,240
going to change the way that everything

942
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,720
has to be sight and so that's and so

943
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:42,320
whenever we get those we have to refer

944
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,960
those also to the third party provider

945
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,680
by not having someone on h inhouse on

946
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,880
staff to be able to answer those

947
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040
questions instead of just saying hey you

948
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,400
know hey John can we um can this guy do

949
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,680
this no okay okay that's it that process

950
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,280
now is um you know billable hours um so

951
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160
that does u create a bit of a service

952
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,079
gap for us the other issue this is

953
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:07,680
important is pre-applications. I

954
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,319
gravitate on that is preapps in the

955
00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:12,319
development process are very important

956
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:14,319
because what that means is let's say

957
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:15,599
someone let's say you really want to

958
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,920
build an ADU in your backyard. What that

959
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,560
means is

960
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,319
instead of just rolling the dice and

961
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:23,760
submitting your application and hoping

962
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,640
everything is good, you can just have a

963
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,319
meeting with the city and we'll tell

964
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:29,920
you, oh no, no, no, no. You need to have

965
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,200
this report, you need to have this

966
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,640
things, this things. you can have all

967
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,119
the documents lined up so that when you

968
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:36,880
submit your application, you don't have

969
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,160
to worry about it getting kicked back

970
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560
and that creates a significant amount of

971
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,640
time for developers and for for

972
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,079
homeowners they're looking to get their

973
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:47,040
projects done. Um, every time that we

974
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,359
have a preapp and we want the building

975
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:51,839
official to be there, again, it's a free

976
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:54,319
service we offer to the community. Um,

977
00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:57,520
but it ain't free to us. Um, so that is

978
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,200
something that comes with not being able

979
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,760
to have that in-house expertise.

980
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,760
that is difficult to calculate in terms

981
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,839
of like um overall costs and

982
00:42:05,839 --> 00:42:07,920
quantifiable hours. Um there's also

983
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520
operational considerations. Like I said

984
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,359
before, a lack of dedicated code and

985
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:12,720
building staff creates operational

986
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,560
efficiencies. You know, being able to

987
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
say, you know, hey Mark, is this cool?

988
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,760
No. Okay, that's a lot faster than

989
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,040
formally going through reporting

990
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,800
channels and stuff like that. And being

991
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,319
able to have people in the right room in

992
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:26,480
the meeting, it's creates efficiencies.

993
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,119
Um there's also no single point of

994
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,280
contact for complaints or building code

995
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,960
questions and that requires a lot more

996
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,480
coordination from our permit cores to

997
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,800
figure out ah who's who's who who can

998
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,319
answer this question and like things

999
00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:41,599
like that. Um but again there's also

1000
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:43,920
information gaps. Um every time we have

1001
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,680
to answer that question we have to go

1002
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,800
through a code that we're not familiar

1003
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040
or qualified to answer and so it takes

1004
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,560
us a lot more time just to be able to

1005
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,520
answer basic questions. So that being

1006
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,119
said, that's the quote, that's kind of

1007
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,839
the background on um why inspections are

1008
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:00,240
factoring into this. Currently, our

1009
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,319
current code enforcement.

1010
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:05,680
Um there's kind of four four buckets.

1011
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,520
The way that we do it right now, um

1012
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,440
there's the type of there's the parts of

1013
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,880
the Mil Creek code that the community

1014
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,560
development department handles. That's

1015
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,240
what's often called the land development

1016
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,599
code stuff. Title 14, 17, 18. That's the

1017
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,680
zoning. You know, you can have a

1018
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,319
business. The good example of this would

1019
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,040
be yes, your business is allowed to sell

1020
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,800
cars at this location. Um, public works

1021
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,720
is the public rights away. This would be

1022
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,720
no, you're not allowed to sell your car

1023
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,400
on the side of the street or no, you're

1024
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,079
not allowed to park your car on the

1025
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:39,359
driveway on the sidewalk. And then the

1026
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:41,280
police function on this would be no,

1027
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,960
you're not allowed to sell stolen cars

1028
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,960
or no, you're not allowed to have dog

1029
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,319
fighting rings and stuff like that,

1030
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:47,839
right? like that's the code that the

1031
00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:51,119
police enforces or um and then then you

1032
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:52,560
have some stuff that has multiple

1033
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,920
departments that might be involved,

1034
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,839
right? Title business title 15 is a

1035
00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:00,800
great example. Title 15 is um no, you

1036
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,560
can't dump your raw sewage into a city

1037
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,560
municipal storm water system, right?

1038
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,800
That would be a public works issue. But

1039
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,480
also in title 15 is you can't build this

1040
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,560
without a permit. That would be a

1041
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,280
planning department function or um

1042
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,520
health and safety. This is one where you

1043
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,400
know some of the like abatement of some

1044
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,079
like health issues could fall under

1045
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,079
public works. Sometimes some they can

1046
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:27,760
fall under the police. There's a lot of

1047
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,960
different enforcement when it comes to

1048
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,599
these multiple department ones. Um as of

1049
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:33,920
right now, safe bill only covers

1050
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,800
violations of title 14 and some titles

1051
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,520
of 15. So that means all other code

1052
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,520
enforcement here is covered exclusively

1053
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,599
by city Mil Creek staff. Um the other

1054
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:46,800
thing I wanted to bring your attention

1055
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,800
before we go into these job descriptions

1056
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,520
is rental registration and inspection.

1057
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,760
Um so we have a draft language we'll be

1058
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,839
presenting if you guys like it. We will

1059
00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:57,440
present the formal draft ordinance to

1060
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
you at a later date. But just to kind of

1061
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520
give you a preview of what's going to be

1062
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,359
established by this should we see

1063
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:05,599
proceed with the rental registration is

1064
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,160
it would require CI rental registration

1065
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,880
um it would require annual registrations

1066
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,640
for um uh for the property and at a

1067
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,440
perunit basis we would establish the fee

1068
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,599
on a annual uh as part of the master fee

1069
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,520
schedule. We would use our existing

1070
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,599
online portal so there's no new software

1071
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,760
acquisitions or anything like that. we

1072
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,280
already have the technical chops to be

1073
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,440
able to build the program inhouse. So

1074
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,920
there's no necessarily big cost

1075
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,240
associated with onboarding the system.

1076
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,800
Um it would include some inspection

1077
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,760
requirements. Um so you know making sure

1078
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,240
that properties are safe and maintained

1079
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,119
and well maint and wellkept. Um, the

1080
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:46,880
ordinance will include enforcement

1081
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,119
language and this ordinance would also

1082
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,720
be comprehensive enough to include

1083
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,560
short-term rentals as well as long-term

1084
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,160
rentals. So, just so we can make sure

1085
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,599
that we have visibility on all

1086
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,599
short-term rentals and we can also use

1087
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,560
that as the platform for um creating

1088
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,240
additional requirements for short-term

1089
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,800
rentals like requiring on street like

1090
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,880
requiring off- streetet parking versus

1091
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,960
on street parking. Again, this rental

1092
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,040
registration isn't necessarily part of

1093
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,599
today's presentation in full, and I'm

1094
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,280
excited to bring that full ordinance to

1095
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,960
you at a later date, but I just wanted

1096
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,280
to bring you um your attention that

1097
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,720
depending on how we define those

1098
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,040
revenues, it could generate between 62

1099
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,680
and $94,000 a year based on the amount

1100
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,359
of rental properties we have within the

1101
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:31,200
city. Um so, the positions, what would

1102
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,599
these positions include? Um obviously, I

1103
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:34,720
won't talk about status quo because

1104
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,560
that's already where we're at. Um, but

1105
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,119
for part-time staff positions, uh, this

1106
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:40,560
would be someone who would work, you

1107
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,160
know, up to whatever the maximum, I

1108
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,720
think, 24 hours or something. Um, so it

1109
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,200
would be proactive code enforcement

1110
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,000
based on that workload. Uh, they might

1111
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,280
be able to do title 17 and 18. So

1112
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,040
they'll be able to do all the planning

1113
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,560
stuff and then be able to do a lot of

1114
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,599
the title eight stuff. So like graffiti,

1115
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,359
um, shopping carts, that could all be

1116
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:04,400
within the um, this part-time component.

1117
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Another part of their job duties would

1118
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,240
be public education. They would be, you

1119
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,359
know, when they're not doing code

1120
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:10,880
enforcement and stuff like that, they

1121
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,599
would be working on letter campaigns and

1122
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,359
doing public education on what code

1123
00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,680
enforcement is and what the expectations

1124
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,079
are just so we can have better outreach.

1125
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,800
Um, the cost of this new staff would be

1126
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,480
estimated around $70,000 per year. Um

1127
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,119
but when you layer that on top of the

1128
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:30,720
inspections that we pay safe built

1129
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,079
roughly we pay 70,000 and then 72,500 in

1130
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:37,200
plan review um the all-in cost here is

1131
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,200
about um yeah about 215 grand. Um

1132
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,440
however with an RPO that would be

1133
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,720
reduced to about um if you were to adopt

1134
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,480
an RPO it would be an additional

1135
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,839
$140,000. The cost would be $140,000.

1136
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:53,359
Um,

1137
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:55,920
for the full-time position, there are

1138
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,839
some cost savings that come here by

1139
00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:01,119
being able to shed our cost that we're

1140
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,560
sending safe bill every year. Um, so in

1141
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,000
uh, but we'll get into that later. The

1142
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,839
actual position itself would be focused

1143
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:09,760
on proactive enforcement of titles 8.

1144
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,960
They'd be doing some right-of-way

1145
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,359
enforcement. They'd be doing everything

1146
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:17,119
14, 15, 16, 17, 18, everything. Um, so

1147
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,800
they'd be doing all the dip codes.

1148
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,960
They'd also be doing public education.

1149
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,319
And then finally, they would also be

1150
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:24,000
doing some building inspection services

1151
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,839
as well as building code customer

1152
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:29,760
service. Um, we do not think that there

1153
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,760
is enough work for full-time code

1154
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,440
enforcement, just doing only code

1155
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,359
enforcement stuff. We also don't think

1156
00:48:35,359 --> 00:48:37,040
that there's a full workload to do only

1157
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,040
inspections. However, if you combine

1158
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,559
these two positions, which is a common

1159
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,480
thing in a lot of cities, that your

1160
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,240
inspector is doing code enforcement and

1161
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,760
inspections, um, it's a natural uh,

1162
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,319
combination of these two things. Um, and

1163
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:52,960
then once you factor in the full cost of

1164
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,520
this position at 130 and then you factor

1165
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,640
in the plan review um, cost, the

1166
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,680
subtotal is 22,000 which is a increase

1167
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,440
over a status quo. However, if you

1168
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,440
adopted the RPO, we would actually be

1169
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,200
saving money relative to what we're

1170
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,880
currently paying now because again,

1171
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,440
we're able to shed that uh, safe built

1172
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,359
um, cost.

1173
00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:15,200
Um, so here's just a comparison of all

1174
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,040
the numbers. Um, you see them all

1175
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,559
stacked together.

1176
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,200
um you have this part-time position that

1177
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,800
you will get, you know, there is a

1178
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,480
potential for some like a slight cost

1179
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,920
savings um if you adopted an RPO, but

1180
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,440
then you'd have a more substantial cost

1181
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,960
savings if you adopt an RPO at the

1182
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,520
full-time. Um but the part-time is only

1183
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,599
focusing on code enforcement proactive

1184
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,079
and then full-time would also be able to

1185
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:41,280
realize um some savings by providing

1186
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,000
limited building services and um as well

1187
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,440
as the code enforcement. Um, I threw a

1188
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,200
lot of numbers at you guys. So, if you

1189
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,359
guys want to ask any questions, I'm

1190
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:53,280
happy to. Or if you want me to, um,

1191
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,720
shoot me a shot and go to the staff

1192
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,240
recommendation, happy to.

1193
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,549
>> Council member Gobies has a question.

1194
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:58,559
» Council member Gobies has a question.

1195
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:01,030
>> I have a couple questions. Um, the first

1196
00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:01,040
» I have a couple questions. Um, the first

1197
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,960
one, I just want to make sure I

1198
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,280
understand this item versus the last

1199
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,079
one. So, we just approved an increase

1200
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:09,599
because this obviously isn't happening

1201
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,880
right away. So, when is our current

1202
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,760
contract with Safeuilt up that we could

1203
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,480
cancel it?

1204
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,349
>> December 31st, 2026.

1205
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:19,359
» December 31st, 2026.

1206
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:21,109
>> Perfect. Okay, that was question one.

1207
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:21,119
» Perfect. Okay, that was question one.

1208
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:24,240
Question two, if if we go with this

1209
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,040
full-time inspector, code enforcement

1210
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,079
person and we cancel the safe contract,

1211
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,119
is there a plan B if all of these jobs

1212
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,720
don't mesh together to make a full-time

1213
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,400
and like there's more than they can do

1214
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,240
in their week? Mhm.

1215
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,150
>> We wouldn't have that like backup of

1216
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:40,160
» We wouldn't have that like backup of

1217
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,720
being able to use the other service.

1218
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,309
>> Yeah. Okay. I think I understand your

1219
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:44,319
» Yeah. Okay. I think I understand your

1220
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:47,760
question. Um in the event of um oh my

1221
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,040
god, there's a lot of stuff we got to

1222
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,440
do. We don't have we got one guy. Um we

1223
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,119
have two options. Either we come back

1224
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,000
and we talk about position or we still

1225
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,760
have to subcontract out with a third

1226
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,200
party provider. Okay.

1227
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,030
>> Right. Um right now it's safe built.

1228
00:51:01,030 --> 00:51:01,040
» Right. Um right now it's safe built.

1229
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,319
There's a number of other companies that

1230
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:04,160
could be um potential alternatives that

1231
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,640
we're exploring too. Um, it could just

1232
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,240
be a small contract and used for

1233
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,400
overflow. Um, it's interesting if you

1234
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,880
look at the history of Mil Creek in the

1235
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,160
history of the building official

1236
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,640
position. There used to be a building

1237
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,280
official in Mil Creek um, like in 2018

1238
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,559
and before that there was always a

1239
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,319
building official here, but they had

1240
00:51:22,319 --> 00:51:24,319
issues filling the position. And when

1241
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:25,920
Safe Built was brought on as the

1242
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,800
building official services, it was

1243
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,960
brought on as a stop gap measure until

1244
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,599
they could secure a building official.

1245
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,800
And then um you know code enforcement

1246
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,319
happened and um some former leadership

1247
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:43,200
philosophy on staffing kind of had some

1248
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,119
impacts on some of this stuff and so but

1249
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,040
this used to be a thing that we had.

1250
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,359
Okay.

1251
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,589
>> And it was originally it was when it was

1252
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:49,599
» And it was originally it was when it was

1253
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,240
they created the safe bill contract it

1254
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,880
was never anticipated to be a a

1255
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,800
full-time thing. And even in the event

1256
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,240
that we do bring on a full-time

1257
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,880
inspector um and the workload is too

1258
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,920
much, again, all revenues are offset,

1259
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,400
all expenses would be offset by revenue.

1260
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,349
>> Is there some sort of like ad hoc

1261
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:09,359
» Is there some sort of like ad hoc

1262
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:11,119
inspecting service that you could use

1263
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:16,630
that wouldn't requ.

1264
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,160
» No. Well, so that's the way it works.

1265
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,000
The way that the contract works is it's

1266
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,240
an on call contract. Okay? it's as we

1267
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,960
get work we send it to them but because

1268
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,720
we have no one else to do the work all

1269
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,280
the work goes to them. So um we could

1270
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,440
certainly maintain a small a small

1271
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,520
contract or you know some contract of

1272
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,680
some sort will be maintained but um

1273
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,000
again all extra cost would be offset by

1274
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,720
revenue.

1275
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:43,270
>> Thanks.

1276
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,520
» Oh um council member Allison and then

1277
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,319
council member Suckler.

1278
00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:50,480
Yeah, I'm looking for that slide that

1279
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,559
showed the the dip

1280
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:57,599
and how that would be alleviated by

1281
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:01,839
having somebody or or managed

1282
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:04,880
by having a full-time person on board.

1283
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,040
So if there were let's say

1284
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,480
the building services

1285
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,640
volume was really high would that mean

1286
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,119
the code enforcement would have to you

1287
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:21,510
know be less

1288
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,599
the lesser of the two buckets of work.

1289
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:28,069
>> Right. Well I think that's a that's a

1290
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:28,079
» Right. Well I think that's a that's a

1291
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:29,520
good consideration and I think that's a

1292
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,800
policy determination would have to be

1293
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,440
determined by the city. I think from my

1294
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,960
view, I would see the um if you have a

1295
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,559
contract available to handle those

1296
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:40,960
overflow situations, I would still want

1297
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,599
to prioritize code enforcement as the

1298
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,079
primary issue because um clean and safe

1299
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:48,880
is one of the city's key priorities. Um

1300
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,280
it's, you know, it's in our strategic

1301
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,040
plan. It's in our core values and

1302
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,599
missions. So I think for me to meet that

1303
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,440
clean and safe expectation, I would

1304
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,240
still in the event if you have x amount

1305
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:01,680
of workload and we have to choose one or

1306
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,839
the other, I would prioritize code

1307
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:05,920
enforcement and then use that overflow

1308
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,400
contract to provide those inspections as

1309
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,040
needed for in those in those events.

1310
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,950
>> Okay. And if you're looking at the

1311
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:12,960
» Okay. And if you're looking at the

1312
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,599
volume of those two,

1313
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:18,000
you know, how likely is it that we would

1314
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,160
still need to have a contract and have a

1315
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,400
considerable spend with that service

1316
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960
provider? Well, the we will always have

1317
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,760
to have a contract um for two reasons.

1318
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,520
One, we still don't have a plans

1319
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,760
examiner. We don't have anyone on staff

1320
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,720
that can review things for, you know,

1321
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,480
review the actual blueprints. That's

1322
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,480
something that we don't have on staff.

1323
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,400
So, that's something we still have to

1324
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,520
outsource. And this would be outsourcing

1325
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,119
only the people who are actually going

1326
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,359
out and checking to make sure that the

1327
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,680
joists are correct and the building

1328
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,160
structures are being physically built

1329
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,880
correctly. Um and the second element it

1330
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,800
would be we wouldn't we would still have

1331
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,079
to maintain some contract with them

1332
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,440
because this person would be an

1333
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,040
inspector but not a full building

1334
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,440
official. a full building official would

1335
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,800
be um a much higher would be not a much

1336
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,319
higher but it would be a higher salary

1337
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:12,880
cost. And so what we're trying to do is

1338
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,640
thread the needle between um what can be

1339
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,960
done by getting a full-time inspector

1340
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,800
and still balancing our code enforcement

1341
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,839
needs and be able to get a good chunk of

1342
00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:26,559
our building official costs out of the

1343
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,880
way. but recognizing that there at the

1344
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,200
end of the day to sign off on a complete

1345
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,280
certificate of occupancy, it needs to be

1346
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,440
a building official. Um, and so we

1347
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,200
wouldn't be able to be free of it fully

1348
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,280
yet. You know, maybe, you know, if I

1349
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,960
know Thomas, maybe there's a way that we

1350
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,720
can figure out a way to get there, but

1351
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:45,520
until then, this is the um the way that

1352
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,359
we could find the best way to maximize

1353
00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:51,200
savings to the city um while still

1354
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,880
dealing with the staff that we have. So,

1355
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,559
hypothetically, the the contract would

1356
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:58,799
maybe be half as expensive as it is

1357
00:55:58,799 --> 00:55:59,520
today.

1358
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,309
>> That's the idea.

1359
00:56:00,309 --> 00:56:00,319
» That's the idea.

1360
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:00,630
>> Okay.

1361
00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:00,640
» Okay.

1362
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,549
>> Instead of asking for a $200,000

1363
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:02,559
» Instead of asking for a $200,000

1364
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:04,640
contract, we'd only ask for a $100,000

1365
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,599
contract.

1366
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:10,710
>> Um, yeah.

1367
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,480
» Um, Council Member Stuckler and after

1368
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,640
him, Council Member Paddock.

1369
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,630
>> So, one quick question, then I have a

1370
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:16,640
» So, one quick question, then I have a

1371
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,640
thought, you know, study session, maybe

1372
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,880
some impact. Um the the cost that you

1373
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,119
have here of 7130 I assume the 70 is a

1374
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:24,480
fully loaded because part-time no

1375
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,160
benefits but how about your full-time is

1376
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,359
that a fully loaded number?

1377
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:28,630
>> Yes, that would be this that's what we

1378
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:28,640
» Yes, that would be this that's what we

1379
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,760
estimate to be the fully loaded.

1380
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,670
>> Really? Okay. So this person would be

1381
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:31,680
» Really? Okay. So this person would be

1382
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,799
somewhere in the 80 85. Okay. Um you

1383
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:40,000
know when I when I look at this um

1384
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,200
there's two thoughts that come to my

1385
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,119
mind. I look at our current situation

1386
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,799
and I look at what's going to be coming

1387
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:46,319
down the road with regards to

1388
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:47,920
inspections.

1389
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,680
There is no question that coming down

1390
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,200
the road with all the plans that we're

1391
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,520
putting in place that we're you're going

1392
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,440
to have this huge onslaught and there is

1393
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,559
no question in anybody's mind that

1394
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:58,640
you're going to need a person, you know,

1395
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,640
at at that point. The question is trying

1396
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,960
to justify the position at this point

1397
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,680
before all that development kicks in. It

1398
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,920
looks like we're still better off with

1399
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,720
this safe build contract. Even if with a

1400
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,160
part-timer, it's going to cost us more

1401
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,520
because we don't know enough. We don't

1402
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,599
see enough to say, "Hey, we need to take

1403
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:19,359
care of these pieces are coming down.

1404
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:21,040
This information is coming down." We

1405
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,960
don't know that. So, you know, when I

1406
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,799
look at this and if you wanted to know

1407
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:26,240
and you could help more more time to

1408
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,559
help educate me as to why right now with

1409
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,079
a little bit information and a little

1410
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:31,920
bit of mind that I've got, I would say

1411
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,920
it doesn't make sense to approve a

1412
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,119
position like this now.

1413
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:38,470
>> Knowing full well we are going to

1414
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:38,480
» Knowing full well we are going to

1415
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,880
approve a position like this when we

1416
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,040
start kicking up Southtown Center, we uh

1417
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,079
the uh all that all that development is

1418
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:49,920
is going to we might need two three

1419
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,280
people. Who knows? because the the

1420
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,960
volume and stuff. Right now, you can't

1421
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,480
really point to that for at least a few

1422
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,079
years. So, I don't see the the the

1423
00:57:58,079 --> 00:57:59,839
reason we went with safely I thought

1424
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:02,880
back when we did it was we had developed

1425
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,319
all the land in Mil Creek and we weren't

1426
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,400
expecting a lot of development costs to

1427
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,839
come in anymore and that's why we didn't

1428
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:09,119
want to replace the position and why we

1429
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,280
went with a vendor that could be on call

1430
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,799
and it looks like we're still kind of in

1431
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:14,559
that that position based on the little

1432
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:15,839
bit information I see today.

1433
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:17,430
>> Right. So if I could respond to that

1434
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:17,440
» Right. So if I could respond to that

1435
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,160
please. Um so when that transition was

1436
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,119
happened there were a lot of things that

1437
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:25,680
stopped occurring that needed to be

1438
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,960
done. For example um like reviewing of

1439
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,680
business licenses and um in-depth review

1440
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,280
of of uh certificates of occupancy and

1441
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,760
stuff like that. There's a pretty large

1442
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
record gap that we have where that kind

1443
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,160
of work and services wasn't being

1444
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,599
performed. um and that's necessary. Um

1445
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,680
that also relates to like other kinds of

1446
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,640
just other kinds of projects like that.

1447
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,240
The other thing I would also note is

1448
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,200
that during this pro during this period

1449
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,200
we also had have seen a substantial I

1450
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,599
would say loss of visibility on

1451
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:03,760
permanent activity and stuff that's

1452
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,960
happening in the community that we don't

1453
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,119
even know about we you know a potential

1454
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:08,880
increase of unpermitted activity because

1455
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,799
we don't have that visible presence

1456
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:13,119
that's proactively looking for work. So

1457
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:17,119
there's potentially a an iceberg, right,

1458
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:20,319
of you don't see, you know, what's

1459
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:21,599
dangerous about an iceberg is what you

1460
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:24,240
don't see. And I think that's so I guess

1461
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,240
what I'm trying to say is um more

1462
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,880
succinctly is we might be seeing a

1463
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,079
little bit of survivor bias where right

1464
00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:34,319
now we're seeing only the influence uh

1465
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:36,880
the impact on permits that are being

1466
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,079
permitted uh correctly and we're only

1467
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:41,760
seeing the charges of things that are

1468
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,640
being tracked by building officials that

1469
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,200
should be tracked but that are currently

1470
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,559
being tracked. But what we're not seeing

1471
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,880
is all the activities that haven't been

1472
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,680
happening that need to happen or should

1473
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,760
be would be better if we were doing it.

1474
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,190
>> Was that our responsibility or is that

1475
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:57,200
» Was that our responsibility or is that

1476
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,640
safe build's responsibility?

1477
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,230
>> Um little bit of column A, a little bit

1478
01:00:00,230 --> 01:00:00,240
» Um little bit of column A, a little bit

1479
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,200
of column B. Um and that's that's why I

1480
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,559
was saying that they have the increase

1481
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:07,599
of inspection costs because as we're

1482
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:09,760
identifying these tasks that need to be

1483
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,240
performed, it's only increasing those

1484
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,200
costs um annually. And that's why you've

1485
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,640
seen the substantial increase in

1486
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,040
inspections despite, as you say, you

1487
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,119
know, we didn't expect Mil Creek was

1488
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:24,400
fully built out, but um we're still

1489
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,319
seeing you're still seeing a constant

1490
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:28,480
quarterly increase of inspection

1491
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,640
services regardless of that. And I'd

1492
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,440
also um point out that it's true that

1493
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,960
there isn't a lot of green field

1494
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,920
opportunity, but a substantial green

1495
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,799
field in the development world means um

1496
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:43,200
a development track where there's

1497
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,880
nothing on it. It's just a patch of

1498
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,880
grass, right? And that's that's a green

1499
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,240
field development. It's the best it's

1500
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,440
the best thing in the world because you

1501
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,400
can build whatever on it and you don't

1502
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,079
have to do anything with it.

1503
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:54,549
>> But what you do also have in Mil Creek

1504
01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:54,559
» But what you do also have in Mil Creek

1505
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,400
is a substantial number of buildings

1506
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,200
that are over 40 years old, which in

1507
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,880
real estate world means that they're

1508
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,280
past their useful life. And that hurts

1509
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,799
me to say because I'm turning 40 this

1510
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:07,040
year. Um, so

1511
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,430
>> yeah.

1512
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:07,440
» yeah.

1513
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,589
>> So, but I hate to think about myself as

1514
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:09,599
» So, but I hate to think about myself as

1515
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,920
an example. But what that means is it's

1516
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,839
true that there isn't a lot of green

1517
01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:15,280
field sites, but there is a lot of

1518
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,599
redevelopment sites in the city. And

1519
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:19,280
that I think also reflects in our

1520
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,880
buildable lands analysis that was part

1521
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,359
of the 2024 comp plan. The final thing I

1522
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:25,359
would like to point out is that the

1523
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:26,960
primary the primary thing that we're

1524
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,480
pointing talking about here is code

1525
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,400
enforcement and how um

1526
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,079
even if we accept that the idea that

1527
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:37,440
there's nowhere to build and there's not

1528
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,680
a lot of permit volume, there is still

1529
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,680
an increasing need for code enforcement

1530
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,640
need. And the way that

1531
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,240
um in my mission to council, as I

1532
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,040
understand it, is to find ways to save a

1533
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,599
dollar in as many ways as humanly

1534
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,319
possible um so that we can meet our core

1535
01:01:56,319 --> 01:01:58,400
services and still be good fiscal

1536
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,720
stewards to the community. And the way

1537
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,920
that um we were able to find the most

1538
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,799
fis like fiscally forward way of doing

1539
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:08,640
that is if we got it if was if we

1540
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,000
thought about the positions and we're

1541
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,160
like well if we can get rid of this

1542
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,880
element of this contract and couple that

1543
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,880
with code enforcement then we can

1544
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,119
provide this service that's needed right

1545
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:20,720
code enforcement where no one's doing it

1546
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,839
really to the level that the city

1547
01:02:21,839 --> 01:02:25,040
deserves and you can couple it with

1548
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,359
savings found in the safe bill contract

1549
01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:29,520
and then together that's how you're able

1550
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,960
to fine. I think you know a you are able

1551
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,119
to find a pathway forward to finding

1552
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,520
savings at least if you adopt an RPO.

1553
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,200
Keeping in mind this desire to save

1554
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,400
money obviously would it not make more

1555
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,559
sense to better manage the safeuilt

1556
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:48,480
relationship and consultant agreement

1557
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,880
and you know understand from them what's

1558
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,240
happening what's out there what are we

1559
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,440
missing so that there's data specific

1560
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,680
examples of why we need to we need to do

1561
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,839
this ourselves in house I I still don't

1562
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:04,960
see the desire to do this inhouse uh the

1563
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,640
I see the desire to do this in house I

1564
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,440
don't see the the the data to support

1565
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,799
doing this in house. That's why I don't

1566
01:03:10,799 --> 01:03:11,520
see

1567
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,710
>> um well as it relates to code

1568
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:12,720
» um well as it relates to code

1569
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,720
enforcement um safe bill does not do

1570
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,839
code enforcement. Um it is not in their

1571
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:19,359
contract. It is not within their

1572
01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:21,760
services. We have been talking

1573
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:22,870
>> I'm sorry but I was talking about the

1574
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:22,880
» I'm sorry but I was talking about the

1575
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,680
stuff that you mentioned

1576
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:24,950
>> the actual inspection services.

1577
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:24,960
» the actual inspection services.

1578
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,150
>> You said there's there's stuff out there

1579
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:26,160
» You said there's there's stuff out there

1580
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,839
in inspections and plant briefs that

1581
01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:29,119
we're not aware of.

1582
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:31,270
>> Correct. because that's under I'm sorry

1583
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:31,280
» Correct. because that's under I'm sorry

1584
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,400
to interrupt you but that was that

1585
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,079
that's under their regalia and we're not

1586
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:37,920
privy to that or we're not aware of that

1587
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,680
or we're not where we would be if we had

1588
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:40,720
our own person in there. Is that

1589
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,039
correct?

1590
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,109
>> So Safe Builds contract is only to

1591
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:43,119
» So Safe Builds contract is only to

1592
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:45,680
respond to when we schedule an

1593
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,559
inspection. Um they do not have a dude

1594
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,720
on a truck that's driving around looking

1595
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,520
for anything. They're they're they're

1596
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,359
they are an on call contract. Um, we've

1597
01:03:57,359 --> 01:03:59,760
priced out models to have someone just

1598
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,839
sitting in our office and um

1599
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:04,559
it's not

1600
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:05,430
>> I seem to remember that

1601
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:05,440
» I seem to remember that

1602
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,430
>> it's not cost effective.

1603
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:07,440
» it's not cost effective.

1604
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,190
>> Um, at least compared to the models that

1605
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:09,200
» Um, at least compared to the models that

1606
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,319
we're looking at now.

1607
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:12,150
>> Now the model we've got now is the most

1608
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:12,160
» Now the model we've got now is the most

1609
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,920
cost effective. True. Agreed. Um, not

1610
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,880
the one for the future. Yeah. just to,

1611
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,280
you know, kind of having that dialogue

1612
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,839
in a study session of, you know, if I

1613
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:26,319
came back and asked you what would I

1614
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:28,079
need to bring you back to win you over

1615
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:30,480
to my side to bring us an inspector.

1616
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,760
Now, that that's kind of the point of

1617
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,760
what I wanted to bring on is that I I

1618
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,440
don't think we're there yet,

1619
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,950
>> but um you and I and I think just but we

1620
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:38,960
» but um you and I and I think just but we

1621
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,480
do need to take real good care of of

1622
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,760
managing that that that safe asset. Make

1623
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,440
sure we collected all the data. we know

1624
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,319
what's going on. Uh so that that might

1625
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:52,559
give us a better path to where what's

1626
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:54,400
the justification for hiring a position.

1627
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,710
>> Sure. Um I think one last point if I

1628
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:56,720
» Sure. Um I think one last point if I

1629
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,160
could uh is also um

1630
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,000
every year we don't have this in-house

1631
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,559
service. When we do stand up the

1632
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:08,000
in-house service, that's a year lost of

1633
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,200
institutional knowledge.

1634
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,990
>> Sure.

1635
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:10,000
» Sure.

1636
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,750
>> And there is an institutional knowledge

1637
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:11,760
» And there is an institutional knowledge

1638
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,400
piece that that can be considered as

1639
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,559
well, especially as we pivot towards the

1640
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:22,630
future and look at different models.

1641
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,240
» Council member Paddock and then after

1642
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,599
that, Mayor Prom.

1643
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,589
>> Thank you. Uh, first of all, I really

1644
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:27,599
» Thank you. Uh, first of all, I really

1645
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,960
appreciate the deliberative and detailed

1646
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,319
process that you've kind of walked

1647
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:33,839
through with us. I think you said four

1648
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:38,319
times and and it it shows and I just

1649
01:05:38,319 --> 01:05:40,160
riffing off of I think a response you

1650
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,240
actually had about the tip of the

1651
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,640
iceberg and there's there's too much

1652
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,799
that we we're not seeing and that's not

1653
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:48,559
getting done because Safe Build isn't

1654
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:50,799
doing it. um has been something that

1655
01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:53,359
stuck in my mind and I think I mentioned

1656
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:54,960
this in the last discussion that we had

1657
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,480
and I and I still feel the same way that

1658
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,960
there is a significant

1659
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,000
need and opportunity to have that

1660
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,839
proactive enforcement that proactive

1661
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:10,079
um engagement with the community that

1662
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:12,319
that that is just not what Safe Build

1663
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:15,920
does. At the same time, I I do have some

1664
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,920
similar concerns that have been um

1665
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,920
voiced and I again I think we brought

1666
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,760
this up in the last uh discussion on

1667
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,720
this that jumping straight to a

1668
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,069
full-time

1669
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,559
ties our hands a little bit if we find

1670
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:32,160
out that that's actually not what we

1671
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,319
need or that it's more expensive than we

1672
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:38,240
thought etc. And I would look at maybe

1673
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,559
there's a middle ground of let's try

1674
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,039
this as a part-time, which again you've

1675
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:45,039
you've you've laid that as an option.

1676
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:46,799
Let's try this as a part-time for all

1677
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:48,319
the benefits that part-time and

1678
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:51,039
flexibility give us. It's not the best

1679
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:53,680
long term, but to me it would be the

1680
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,359
best iterative step to say, "Yep, we

1681
01:06:57,359 --> 01:07:00,319
validated the the assumptions. let's

1682
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:02,079
let's bring that person or another

1683
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:06,160
person full-time and go versus waiting

1684
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,480
to see what happens and we probably

1685
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,839
wouldn't actually see what happens

1686
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:12,319
because that's not going to be until

1687
01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:14,559
Southtown Center gets going, etc. So,

1688
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:16,240
that feels to me like an iterative

1689
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,480
middle ground that I could that I could

1690
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,720
get behind as as feedback and just

1691
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:25,109
sharing with my peers.

1692
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:27,119
» Mayor Patton,

1693
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:31,190
>> thank you so much. um the background of

1694
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:31,200
» thank you so much. um the background of

1695
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,799
the type of employee you're looking for

1696
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:35,920
for full-time um versus part-time. I'm

1697
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,599
assuming it's not entry level. I mean,

1698
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:40,960
what's the kind of um what what's the

1699
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,400
what are you looking for?

1700
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,710
>> Um early to mid career.

1701
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:44,720
» Um early to mid career.

1702
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:45,910
>> Early to midcareer. Yeah.

1703
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:45,920
» Early to midcareer. Yeah.

1704
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,430
>> Okay. So, early is

1705
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:47,440
» Okay. So, early is

1706
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:47,750
>> Yeah.

1707
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:47,760
» Yeah.

1708
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,750
>> potentially that I would I wouldn't say

1709
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:49,760
» potentially that I would I wouldn't say

1710
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,920
entry level, but I wouldn't say senior.

1711
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,280
I guess I would say probably mid-level

1712
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,160
career maybe.

1713
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,270
>> That's what it sounded like when you

1714
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:55,280
» That's what it sounded like when you

1715
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,400
were talking about it. So, I was just

1716
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,319
curious about it. um because based off

1717
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,319
of years of experience um in your

1718
01:08:00,319 --> 01:08:01,520
looking into this because I know you

1719
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,680
mentioned other cities um how many

1720
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,960
cities have uh this type of role still

1721
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,200
because the you've explained clearly

1722
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,119
that the we had a building

1723
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:14,960
we had we had a building official.

1724
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,589
>> Yeah.

1725
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:15,599
» Yeah.

1726
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:17,590
>> I don't know if we had a code

1727
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:17,600
» I don't know if we had a code

1728
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,920
enforcement specific person. Did we have

1729
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,480
that as well?

1730
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:21,590
>> I had code enforcement.

1731
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:21,600
» I had code enforcement.

1732
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,110
>> So it was two separate positions that

1733
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:23,120
» So it was two separate positions that

1734
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,799
were here in the city of Mil Creek. How

1735
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:27,440
many cities um in your and maybe you

1736
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:28,719
don't have this information today, but

1737
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:30,719
how many of these cities currently have

1738
01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:32,799
so those two types of positions?

1739
01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:35,829
>> Um I would say that a vast majority of

1740
01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:35,839
» Um I would say that a vast majority of

1741
01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:38,799
all cities have both a building official

1742
01:08:38,799 --> 01:08:41,440
and co and code enforcement officers.

1743
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:43,759
Your typical planning department is

1744
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:47,440
comprised of um maybe you have three or

1745
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:50,159
four plan like of of a city of 20,000 of

1746
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:52,480
Mil Creek size. Typically, you have a

1747
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,799
building official, you have a couple

1748
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:57,359
inspectors, a a couple plan reviewers,

1749
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:58,799
and some permit techs. That's your

1750
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:00,640
building services. And then you have

1751
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,480
your planners, long range planners, and

1752
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,640
current planners. U Michael Tio, for

1753
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,000
example, has about eight or nine

1754
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,759
full-time FTEEs. Um half of those are a

1755
01:09:09,759 --> 01:09:11,440
mixture of building officials,

1756
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:16,719
inspectors, and um permit techs. Um

1757
01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:19,120
using the Mil Creek model and our our

1758
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,759
staffing model and stuff like that. Um,

1759
01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:23,279
I think we could still provide

1760
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,319
outstanding service to the customers um

1761
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,440
by providing some things like full-time

1762
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:31,279
inspec, like having inspection services

1763
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:33,440
be in house, but some things you could

1764
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:36,000
probably delay on sharing like a plans

1765
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,600
reviewer. But to answer your question

1766
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,719
specifically, um, many cities will often

1767
01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:43,040
have your inspectors or your building

1768
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,920
official do both code enforcement and

1769
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,279
um, inspections. Um, but most most

1770
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:52,400
cities of our size and um you typically

1771
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,719
have a building official as a full-time

1772
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:57,040
position and a code enforcement as a

1773
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,640
full-time position. as a full-time

1774
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,320
position. And I really appreciate you um

1775
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,000
sharing that information cuz you know

1776
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,239
for me obviously we're talking about the

1777
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,719
the building and the and the official

1778
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:08,159
you know in terms of inspections and all

1779
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:11,600
that but I've been really

1780
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,199
keeping an eye on this because for me

1781
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:15,920
the importance of the code enforcement

1782
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,239
that's kind of been you know like I in

1783
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,640
an ideal world would like a full-time

1784
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,600
just code enforcer enforcement whether

1785
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,159
that's um financially available for

1786
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:27,520
where we are all that but there's so

1787
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,159
many things that we get constantly asked

1788
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,239
about or worked on or you know any of

1789
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:35,199
those things in terms of what makes Mil

1790
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,520
Creek the city that it is would be under

1791
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,159
that and so I I I definitely think code

1792
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:41,920
enforcement as its own position makes a

1793
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,840
lot of sense why sharing um what council

1794
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,520
um had mentioned for me I because I see

1795
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,600
it as a full-time position I can get

1796
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,360
behind a full-time that has half um

1797
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,159
building inspection responsibilities and

1798
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:00,960
half code enforcement because maybe we

1799
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,040
don't actually as like an an in an

1800
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,520
introduction into this is maybe we don't

1801
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,760
actually need that much code enforcement

1802
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,080
as I keep hearing that we do or seeing

1803
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,239
you know where we are in our path. So I

1804
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:13,600
could see like well then there's the

1805
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,760
part-time plus we're also doing this

1806
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,360
which is also another need. So I find

1807
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,000
that is my kind of happy medium which

1808
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,760
sounds like a full-time position here.

1809
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,920
So I I thank you for um providing that

1810
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:24,560
background.

1811
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,470
>> Thank you Mayor Berten. Um I guess one

1812
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:26,480
» Thank you Mayor Berten. Um I guess one

1813
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:30,000
comment I would have to that is um

1814
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,840
there's also a good conversation that we

1815
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,800
can have as a community of you know to

1816
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,400
put it um as seriously as possible. Do

1817
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,159
you want code enforcement?

1818
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:40,390
>> Yeah.

1819
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:40,400
» Yeah.

1820
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,990
>> Or do you want code enforcement?

1821
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:42,000
» Or do you want code enforcement?

1822
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:42,390
>> Yeah.

1823
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:42,400
» Yeah.

1824
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,669
>> You know like there's there's a way you

1825
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:45,679
» You know like there's there's a way you

1826
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:47,520
know for example in our code you can't

1827
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,080
have a hedge that's greater than the

1828
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,040
height of a fence.

1829
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,214
>> Yeah. um

1830
01:11:53,214 --> 01:11:53,224
» Yeah. um

1831
01:11:53,224 --> 01:11:53,760
[laughter]

1832
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,350
>> how many properties

1833
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:55,360
» how many properties

1834
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,470
>> would we

1835
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:56,480
» would we

1836
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,110
>> yeah I don't want

1837
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:57,120
» yeah I don't want

1838
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,550
>> be going after right and so I think

1839
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:58,560
» be going after right and so I think

1840
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,159
there's a question of you know there's a

1841
01:12:00,159 --> 01:12:02,080
science there's an art form to code

1842
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,159
enforcement in terms of how you apply it

1843
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:06,080
how you don't apply it and there's some

1844
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,920
some considerations that we want to have

1845
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,600
in terms of how aggressive we get on

1846
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,120
code enforcement and what are the things

1847
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,000
we're aggressive about

1848
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,149
>> I I really appreciate that um that

1849
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:14,159
» I I really appreciate that um that

1850
01:12:14,159 --> 01:12:16,800
example if it's okay because for me I

1851
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,000
would also see the code enforcement

1852
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,320
person saying looking at what we have

1853
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,199
and saying we just don't this isn't okay

1854
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:24,880
or just questioning like do you know

1855
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,520
that we have this we should bring this

1856
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,520
to council with a recommendation of like

1857
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,719
how we need to do or the planning

1858
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:32,159
commission you know like whatever the

1859
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,320
right um avenue is I think that's an

1860
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,520
important part because we just don't

1861
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,520
have the bandwidth for someone to take a

1862
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,320
look at those things um and I think it's

1863
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,159
important to do so before we start

1864
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,360
adding on all the additional annexation

1865
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,600
and additional areas of people and

1866
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,400
population or businesses that are you

1867
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,000
know that we're hoping to attract here

1868
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,679
is that we actually have all of our

1869
01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:56,159
stuff nice and clean and to the point

1870
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:57,840
where we can adapt as new things are

1871
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,159
coming, but we're not tracing back to

1872
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:02,159
something from 1998. And

1873
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:05,189
>> and to your point, the um the subtotal

1874
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:05,199
» and to your point, the um the subtotal

1875
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:07,840
without the RPO, a full-time position,

1876
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,199
what you're contemplating is still

1877
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,520
cheaper than just bringing on a

1878
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,679
part-time person. It would still be a

1879
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:15,840
less cost burden to the city to go

1880
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,080
full-time.

1881
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,640
Um, city manager would like to speak.

1882
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,320
Has I'm assuming speak, not a question.

1883
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,950
>> Yeah, I have a comment about uh just the

1884
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:26,960
» Yeah, I have a comment about uh just the

1885
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,159
fact that we're we're talking about

1886
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:29,760
full-time and part-time. Just to keep in

1887
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,679
mind that the full-time, we're not

1888
01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:33,120
talking about just 20 hours a week.

1889
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,480
That's what we're referring to right

1890
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:36,640
here. [clears throat] But also just

1891
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,040
considering that

1892
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,440
is there an actual need out there in our

1893
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:44,640
community for a full-time or a part-time

1894
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,400
uh existing right now. The reason why we

1895
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,800
have claims we're in litigation, we have

1896
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,880
complaints about junk cars or septic

1897
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,880
tanks is because we don't have code

1898
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,159
enforcement. Somebody out that was

1899
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:55,760
proactively addressing a lot of these

1900
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,480
issues. Um,

1901
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:00,400
Director Ryan did did talk about in

1902
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,800
itself the full-time is without the RPO

1903
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,800
is less expensive. That's another

1904
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,400
comment I I wanted to make and and

1905
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,880
reinforced. Um the part-time is 20 hours

1906
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,760
a week and it's further limits the

1907
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,239
ability to provide code enforcement,

1908
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:19,920
plan review and inspections. Um you got

1909
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,080
to think about what this person will do.

1910
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,320
Not only drive around and look at

1911
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,199
enforce code and update director Ryan,

1912
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:29,520
but this person will also write letters.

1913
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,280
This person will make phone calls. this

1914
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,960
person will do the whole scope of

1915
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,640
services um

1916
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,040
that that person's responsibility you

1917
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,199
know will will be and and right now a

1918
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:42,960
lot of staff we're taking on those types

1919
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,040
of roles we're talking about letters we

1920
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,719
have our management analyst right now

1921
01:14:46,719 --> 01:14:48,159
writing letters about graffiti and

1922
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,280
encampments um that cannot transfer yet

1923
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,880
to director's Ryan team until we have

1924
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,679
that code enforcement person um I'm

1925
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:57,120
trying to capture the scope of kind of

1926
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,440
what this person will do I've talked

1927
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:02,960
about litigation Um,

1928
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,400
I've talked about the existing things

1929
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,239
that are out there already and I think

1930
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:09,679
that's pretty much kind of the um

1931
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:11,199
comments that I want to make in terms of

1932
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:13,920
I what I believe that this this we've

1933
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,120
already talked about this we've been

1934
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,280
talking about this for over a year now

1935
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,960
um about the need and as we continue to

1936
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,320
wait on this type of full-time position

1937
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,960
um the issues continue to grow and uh we

1938
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,239
haven't done anything about it just

1939
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:31,120
because We we don't have that full-time

1940
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,960
position. I do not believe a part-time

1941
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,120
position is going to handle uh the need

1942
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,030
out there. Thank you.

1943
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,760
» Um I have a question. Um and I

1944
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,480
I have a migraine so things are not

1945
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:49,600
clicking I think. So when you explain

1946
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,600
can you go back and explain to me the um

1947
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,920
the full time is 130. Well that's

1948
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,120
obvious but why? So they're taking on

1949
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,199
the inspections, right? So that's why we

1950
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:04,960
don't have the 725 there. It's going up

1951
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,040
into the 130 basically.

1952
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,390
>> Correct. So um the reason why this is

1953
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:10,400
» Correct. So um the reason why this is

1954
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,440
less is because you're removing the

1955
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:16,800
inspections charge. And the other thing

1956
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,600
to note is that these these this

1957
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,520
contract amount is based on the 2025

1958
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,840
2026 allocations for um safe built um

1959
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,880
and in the next budget and you know

1960
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,040
we'll go through that process but those

1961
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,480
numbers could be higher too.

1962
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,550
>> And so the part-time person we'd have to

1963
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:36,560
» And so the part-time person we'd have to

1964
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,280
hire the part-time person and they would

1965
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,760
be handling

1966
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:42,719
code enforcement.

1967
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:43,750
>> Correct.

1968
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:43,760
» Correct.

1969
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,840
And then we'd still be needing to pay

1970
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,560
safe bill for the inspections and the

1971
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,960
plan review. Okay, I do understand. I

1972
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,320
just want to make sure I did understand

1973
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,120
since yeah,

1974
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:54,790
>> I've got a migraine and I wasn't sure if

1975
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:54,800
» I've got a migraine and I wasn't sure if

1976
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,800
it was clicking. Perfect. Thank you.

1977
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:03,110
>> Any other questions?

1978
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,520
So, I think you want direction from us

1979
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,400
tonight um on which direction we would

1980
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,199
like to go um whether or not we

1981
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,360
recommend a full-time or a part-time

1982
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,000
budget. So, I think as as discussion

1983
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,000
bared out, um staff recommendation is

1984
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,679
for a full-time position. Um and um to

1985
01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:23,520
be and again, we're not asking for

1986
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,960
authorization of the full position

1987
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,360
tonight, but we're asking for a

1988
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,440
recommendation to have this further

1989
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:33,199
studied and proposed as part of the 2728

1990
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:37,360
benium budget process so that we can um

1991
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,040
you know, just provide what is your

1992
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,400
preference going into that? maybe not

1993
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,400
preference, but what is if we were going

1994
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,080
to do it, this is how we prefer to do it

1995
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,159
and then we can provide that costing

1996
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:46,880
model. Okay.

1997
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,470
>> Um or if you prefer a part-time that

1998
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:50,480
» Um or if you prefer a part-time that

1999
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,560
whatever consideration that you have, we

2000
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:53,840
would just like to have some formal

2001
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,480
direction on picking one. Um or if you

2002
01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:58,560
want us to bring both forward, that's

2003
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:03,669
fine, too. I just looking for direction.

2004
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:05,920
» Um Council Member Goeski,

2005
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,189
>> I just didn't know did you want like

2006
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:07,199
» I just didn't know did you want like

2007
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:10,320
each of us to chime in? Were we

2008
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,110
>> or does somebody want

2009
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:11,120
» or does somebody want

2010
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,310
>> We're not We're not like voting on this.

2011
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:14,320
» We're not We're not like voting on this.

2012
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,110
>> No, not really. It was just a

2013
01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:17,120
» No, not really. It was just a

2014
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,110
>> All right. Do you want each one of us to

2015
01:18:19,110 --> 01:18:19,120
» All right. Do you want each one of us to

2016
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,800
make our to tell you how we feel about

2017
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,400
it or

2018
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,910
>> Yeah, that's fine.

2019
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:23,920
» Yeah, that's fine.

2020
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,229
>> However, Yeah. I think if you just want

2021
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:26,239
» However, Yeah. I think if you just want

2022
01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:27,760
to each just tell me what your

2023
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,440
preference was, that would be helpful

2024
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:33,040
and then I would know um better.

2025
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,310
>> All right. Um

2026
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:34,320
» All right. Um

2027
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,070
>> let's go this way. I know I was like not

2028
01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:36,080
» let's go this way. I know I was like not

2029
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,360
to speak for them, but I think they've

2030
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,800
told this, but um council member

2031
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,440
Paddock,

2032
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:42,550
>> again, I I wholly uh agree with what the

2033
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:42,560
» again, I I wholly uh agree with what the

2034
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,640
city manager the part-time is not going

2035
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,560
to do the whole job, but it's going to

2036
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,199
give us data to determine whether or not

2037
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:50,800
we need a whole job and what that's

2038
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,320
going to look like. So,

2039
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,790
>> um all in for part-time.

2040
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:54,800
» um all in for part-time.

2041
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,470
>> Yeah.

2042
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:56,480
» Yeah.

2043
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,070
>> Yeah. I don't feel we have I don't have

2044
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:58,080
» Yeah. I don't feel we have I don't have

2045
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,760
enough data to justify a full-time

2046
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,199
position at this time. So,

2047
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:03,189
>> but based on what's being said, yeah, I

2048
01:19:03,189 --> 01:19:03,199
» but based on what's being said, yeah, I

2049
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:04,640
think a part-time position might make

2050
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,679
sense because it could help us to

2051
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:07,760
collect the data that we need to really

2052
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,199
justify full-time position going

2053
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:11,840
forward. But right now, I I I wouldn't

2054
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,719
support anything more than a part-time.

2055
01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:18,470
>> Um, I would lean towards um the

2056
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:18,480
» Um, I would lean towards um the

2057
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,880
full-time position because it is going

2058
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,800
to cost less than the part-time position

2059
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,120
when we are looking at the budget and we

2060
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,360
really do need some code enforcement

2061
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,520
desperately. So, that would be my

2062
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,800
preference to look at in the budget. Um,

2063
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,080
Mayor Pam,

2064
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,110
>> full-time position.

2065
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:37,120
» full-time position.

2066
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,830
>> Council member Allison, I'm torn, but

2067
01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:39,840
» Council member Allison, I'm torn, but

2068
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,480
I'm leaning more towards the full-time.

2069
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:46,320
Um, I think you've explained that that

2070
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,440
full-time person could be

2071
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:52,719
full up with statement of work and

2072
01:19:52,719 --> 01:19:55,120
the comment you made about the

2073
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,520
institutional knowledge.

2074
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,480
um before we consider annexations. That

2075
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:03,360
means a lot to me.

2076
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,030
>> Council member Gobies,

2077
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:05,040
» Council member Gobies,

2078
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,189
>> I'm definitely on board for a full-time

2079
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:07,199
» I'm definitely on board for a full-time

2080
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:09,199
position. I think the um the cost

2081
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:11,520
savings is there. The customer service

2082
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,679
element of having somebody that is a

2083
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:17,280
city employee be the the face of both of

2084
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,920
those aspects. Um I think as we move

2085
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,760
into annexation,

2086
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,239
that is a better position to be building

2087
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:27,120
from. Um, additionally, and and I may be

2088
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,400
way off base, I feel like it's a better

2089
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,040
job position for to find somebody who's

2090
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,280
good at it would want a full-time

2091
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,520
position. And so, it feels like it would

2092
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,880
be more likely to get a good hire, um,

2093
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,760
to use their skill set correctly. Um,

2094
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,760
and also that they would have this sort

2095
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,719
of broad scope of things to do to fill

2096
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:50,880
the time, whereas I don't really know

2097
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,280
how a part-time

2098
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,199
fluctuates, you know, as the things

2099
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:57,040
fluctuate from week to week. So, I I

2100
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,679
would I would say full-time.

2101
01:20:59,679 --> 01:21:00,229
>> Thank you.

2102
01:21:00,229 --> 01:21:00,239
» Thank you.

2103
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:03,910
>> You're welcome.

2104
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,920
» All right. Next up, we have the consent

2105
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,880
agenda. Approval of checks number 70644

2106
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,199
through 70688

2107
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:15,876
and AC wire transfers in the amount of

2108
01:21:15,876 --> 01:21:17,440
[clears throat]

2109
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,520
1 million6

2110
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:25,830
Wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah. 1,6,593.81.

2111
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,159
Um myself and council member Allison

2112
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:30,400
were the audit committee. Um any

2113
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,040
exceptions?

2114
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,229
>> No exceptions.

2115
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:32,239
» No exceptions.

2116
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,110
>> No exceptions. And we also have the city

2117
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:35,120
» No exceptions. And we also have the city

2118
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,199
council meeting minutes of July 28th,

2119
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:39,920
2026. Do I have a motion to approve the

2120
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,440
consent agenda?

2121
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:43,189
>> So moved.

2122
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:43,199
» So moved.

2123
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:43,990
>> Second.

2124
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:44,000
» Second.

2125
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,149
>> I have a motion and a second. All those

2126
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:46,159
» I have a motion and a second. All those

2127
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:47,440
in favor say I.

2128
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:47,750
>> I.

2129
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:47,760
» I.

2130
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,630
>> I.

2131
01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:48,640
» I.

2132
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,750
>> Any against? Any abstensions? Motion

2133
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:51,760
» Any against? Any abstensions? Motion

2134
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,920
passes 6.

2135
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,239
Next up, we have um reports. City

2136
01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:57,440
manager.

2137
01:21:57,440 --> 01:21:59,750
>> Thank you, mayor. We have three reports,

2138
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:59,760
» Thank you, mayor. We have three reports,

2139
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,520
and I'll start off with the first one.

2140
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,199
Uh yesterday our city clerk had the

2141
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:05,760
opportunity to send you uh my report for

2142
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,080
second quarter 2026.

2143
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,080
It is lengthy. It's 12 pages. I'm going

2144
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,840
to cut it short. I'm going to give you a

2145
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,159
high level of the strategic plan and

2146
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,560
cover some key accomplishments across

2147
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,440
our department. So um just keeping in

2148
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,520
mind that's a three-year plan 2025 to

2149
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,400
2027. Um and I'll start with Southtown

2150
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,639
Center. Um much of the weight in South

2151
01:22:26,639 --> 01:22:28,239
Town Center according to the rubric that

2152
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:30,800
I put together on the report shows that

2153
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,120
we are aiming for uh September 9th for

2154
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,320
the adoption of the plan. Um some of the

2155
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,360
key things that were moving in 2026 is

2156
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,520
uh a strateg economic development

2157
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,199
strategy. We have a draft now based on

2158
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:44,719
the framework that you had seen in the

2159
01:22:44,719 --> 01:22:47,360
past u by director Ryan and we're going

2160
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,960
to move that forward putting it on the

2161
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,800
shelf until we get some direction on

2162
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,880
annexation and um completion of the

2163
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,199
master plans. Uh we'll continue

2164
01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:56,960
engagement with property owners uh

2165
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:01,360
private property owners and uh and um

2166
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,280
those types of partners going forward as

2167
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,280
we start to uh move into the

2168
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,960
infrastructure development down the

2169
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,120
road. Um some of the next um things that

2170
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,800
are going to advance with South is the

2171
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,360
imple implementation of an overlay zone.

2172
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,040
Those designations that are over and

2173
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,280
above the existing uh zoning that is

2174
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,239
within the 55 acres. Uh the other piece

2175
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:25,679
is infrastructure planning. Um as if you

2176
01:23:25,679 --> 01:23:27,520
recall back on the draft that you had

2177
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,080
seen on the 28th of CIP uh there was

2178
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,679
about a million for each the

2179
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:34,639
transportation component and the surface

2180
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:37,440
uh surface water uh drainage. Uh that's

2181
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:42,480
for the design um of both the

2182
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:43,920
um surface water and transportation in

2183
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,760
Southtown center. That might shift um

2184
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,760
later on down, but it's on there right

2185
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,760
now. Um uh just as a temporary plan.

2186
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,600
This is a six-year project out to 2030

2187
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,840
um for the engineers. Uh DRCC

2188
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,120
and stop me if you have any questions.

2189
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,880
DRCC um lot of moving parts here. We are

2190
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,639
uh at the same time working on a lot of

2191
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:11,040
things in parallel and not just concept

2192
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,120
design but uh looking at components um

2193
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,960
of that area based on council's

2194
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,800
preferences. Uh we are

2195
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,520
uh looking at the um how to fund the

2196
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,600
project

2197
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,040
and also we engaged initial uh meetings

2198
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,760
with our potential partners. All these

2199
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,280
things are going on at the same time and

2200
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,719
we're going to start working with

2201
01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:37,440
council and in small teams uh before our

2202
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:39,600
next presentation, Director Ryan and

2203
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,360
Deputy City Manager and myself to keep

2204
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,120
things moving forward and give council

2205
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,000
an opportunity behind the scenes to talk

2206
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,800
about all these different aspects of the

2207
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,120
DRCC concept. And so when you come into

2208
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,480
council, you have an opportunity to talk

2209
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:54,880
about it in session. I'm not going to

2210
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960
talk about much about annexation. a good

2211
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,960
meeting with 1961 to start bringing

2212
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,719
forward um council's questions that you

2213
01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:05,760
had uh regarding the last discussion. Uh

2214
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,920
we'll repackage some of those um areas

2215
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,760
and then bring forward financials around

2216
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,840
that. We'll bring forward GMA impact um

2217
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,320
from annexation. you had asked about

2218
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,639
maze pond fire impact um BRB

2219
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:24,880
impact um and also uh mapping out

2220
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,480
utilities and districts too and kind of

2221
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:28,960
finding um how those are going to impact

2222
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,239
annexation. Um not going to talk much

2223
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,719
about uh recclarifying and meeting city

2224
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:36,080
standards for one maintain public

2225
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,719
outdoor spaces. Uh I'll go over that in

2226
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:40,960
the operations piece when I talk about

2227
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,360
the public works key accomplishments

2228
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,199
increasing community engagement. Um that

2229
01:25:47,199 --> 01:25:49,280
uh keeping up with the creek uh has

2230
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,080
about 2400 subscribers now. That was a

2231
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,000
key program

2232
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,400
uh deliverable for the Southtown Center.

2233
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,360
I'm sorry for the uh um increasing

2234
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,360
community engagement. But as you're

2235
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:02,719
probably already aware, uh, community

2236
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:04,960
development planning, um, I mean, I'm

2237
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,320
sorry, um, communications and marketing,

2238
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,480
um, has done a lot of things so far that

2239
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:12,480
also is has to be considered as a

2240
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,000
comprehensive

2241
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,520
plan on how they're executing things

2242
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,040
that also bring community engagement to

2243
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:21,120
the community. So, um, I'm hoping to get

2244
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,920
a little more hits on that u um,

2245
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,360
newsletter, probably hopefully about

2246
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,560
3,000 by the end of the year. Um so

2247
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,360
that's really kind of very high level

2248
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,199
the uh strategic plan everything's

2249
01:26:33,199 --> 01:26:35,520
moving forward. Um, with that, the only

2250
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,760
concern I have right now is ensuring

2251
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,800
that our um, asset management GIS

2252
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,880
systems are continue to move forward and

2253
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,679
we'll be working with uh, their public

2254
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:48,000
works director and our city engineer to

2255
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,400
see if we can budget some money and time

2256
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,000
to to further implement that system or

2257
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,360
enhance that system so we can start

2258
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,639
using that before we start working on

2259
01:26:56,639 --> 01:26:59,120
long-term projects and and then keeping

2260
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,280
start leveraging that system to uh, do

2261
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,080
the daily maintenance and operations.

2262
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,280
um key accomplishments across the city,

2263
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,040
executive office, uh deputy city

2264
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,719
manager, myself, we're really focusing

2265
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:13,040
on uh strengthening leadership and

2266
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,800
employee management, holding employees

2267
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,600
accountable and ourselves as well u on

2268
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,120
performance evals and we've made

2269
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,960
significant progress on keeping those up

2270
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,239
to date. Still a few um past too, but

2271
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:26,560
we're keep trying to keep those current.

2272
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,280
Um work plans is a big thing. having

2273
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,199
employees uh really update their work

2274
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:33,360
plans and ensuring that those are in

2275
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,960
alignment with the council's five

2276
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,000
priorities as well as um uh our other

2277
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,080
long-term plans. Um some key highlights

2278
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,760
from the executive office is our

2279
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,639
management analysts who um initiated

2280
01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:48,239
meetings with Congresswoman Dell Benny's

2281
01:27:48,239 --> 01:27:50,480
office and Senator Patty Murray's office

2282
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:52,080
started talking to them about grants and

2283
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,760
so then now you know Mil Creek's on on

2284
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,600
the on the landscape for grants going

2285
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,719
forward. Uh 4 million asked with Senator

2286
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:00,639
Patty Mary's office for cash basins was

2287
01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:03,760
denied. Uh the 4 million asked for North

2288
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,600
Creek Trail with Senate uh Congresswoman

2289
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:09,280
Del Benny's office. Um U got reduced

2290
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,080
about 1.25 million. That's uh in route

2291
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,000
with the feds right now. Hopefully

2292
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,600
that'll be approved in October, but

2293
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,159
we're waiting to see. Uh thanks to our

2294
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:20,239
management analysts, we are now uh we

2295
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:22,239
did receive approval the of the

2296
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,800
completed 2021 title six report from

2297
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,280
WASHDOT. Uh that's that's pretty it's

2298
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,840
relevant for us to start to continue

2299
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,639
applying for grants moving forward. Um

2300
01:28:32,639 --> 01:28:34,639
we're starting to build out the 500,000

2301
01:28:34,639 --> 01:28:37,280
for city hall north roof repair. Uh

2302
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,400
that's about 95% complete and then also

2303
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,120
the other money from uh Representative

2304
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,440
Berg 350 for sidewalk repairs we're

2305
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:48,400
billing out for that as well. So um good

2306
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,480
work on the management analyst part. Not

2307
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:51,760
gonna say much about communications,

2308
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,719
marketing, about 100,000 hits, website

2309
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:57,600
visits. Now, that does include staff.

2310
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,840
Um, so, uh, we can't break that out

2311
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,520
between who's external, internal, but it

2312
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,360
gives you a sense that our website's

2313
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,120
being heavily used whether it's internal

2314
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,320
or both internal and external. I talked

2315
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,040
about the quarterly newsletter hits. Um,

2316
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,360
113 classes

2317
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,679
right now, 884 program uh, enrollments.

2318
01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:20,239
Although um Jod and team are keeping up

2319
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:22,800
on their recreation program. I won't

2320
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,440
talk much about major events. Uh one new

2321
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:28,320
one's a FIFA World Cup um event that

2322
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,880
that Jod executed and thanks to PD who

2323
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,600
supported her on that one. Um can't go

2324
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,840
without saying how important Barb Idle

2325
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,800
is. Um I meet her with her monthly to

2326
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,320
get an idea of how the volunteer

2327
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,400
program's going and uh 2026

2328
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,520
uh 442 hours to date.

2329
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,280
um from volunteers. So, it gives you a

2330
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,159
sense of kind of uh you know, translate

2331
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:53,360
that into dollars. They put a

2332
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,360
considerable amount of time in aligning

2333
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,560
themselves with our public works

2334
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,920
department, keeping the city clean. Um

2335
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:01,920
can't say enough about how much support

2336
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,960
Jod gives uh our departments. And on

2337
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,639
your on the report, you'll see a whole

2338
01:30:06,639 --> 01:30:09,840
list of of um

2339
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,320
um areas where she's supporting all

2340
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,800
departments to either get ahead of of

2341
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,440
messaging on the projects that are about

2342
01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:20,320
to take place or just communicating with

2343
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,080
even external parties like girls on the

2344
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,800
run to make sure that um uh they're

2345
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,960
executing the projects well. Uh

2346
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,719
congratulations so far to the city

2347
01:30:28,719 --> 01:30:31,199
clerk. uh she's uh getting close to

2348
01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:33,440
moving clo uh to certification as a an

2349
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:36,719
official municipal clerk. So um she's

2350
01:30:36,719 --> 01:30:40,159
advancing her career um that will

2351
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,560
increase her credibility and and provide

2352
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,000
us with additional knowledge on how to

2353
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,040
move forward um

2354
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,199
as she continues to support all of you

2355
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:51,280
on the legislative side as well as all

2356
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,199
of us on the executive side. Um

2357
01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:58,000
and one big uh big improvement is

2358
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,520
improving the speed at which records are

2359
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,400
released as well. So uh kudos to the

2360
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,520
clerk's office. Uh on the police side,

2361
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:06,880
you've already seen the report by Chief

2362
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,280
White about the reduction in crime uh

2363
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,639
direct correlation to how they're

2364
01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:12,960
managing the teams and and our kudos to

2365
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,159
all our police officers as well. Um it's

2366
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:19,840
reduced all across the board. So um

2367
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,719
they've done a great job. Uh we've still

2368
01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:25,679
negotiating the police manual. Um still

2369
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:28,400
working with uh guild's attorney and

2370
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:29,600
we'll keep you updated on that.

2371
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,880
Hopefully we'll shoot for by the end of

2372
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:35,199
the year. Um the big ask for police uh

2373
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:37,280
the other unfunded item unfunded item

2374
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,520
besides code enforcement position is

2375
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,639
body warrant cameras. Um, we've all

2376
01:31:42,639 --> 01:31:44,400
talked about false complaints, use of

2377
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,120
force, evidence collection, prosecution,

2378
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,280
holding both

2379
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,120
uh

2380
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,040
our community and our police accountable

2381
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,840
for the actions that occur in those

2382
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,159
inter, you know, when they when they do

2383
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:00,480
interact. So, um I do think that's

2384
01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:02,480
important. Uh we're going to try and fun

2385
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:04,880
find money in the budget to fund that in

2386
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,159
the next bianium. Um you'll soon uh see

2387
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:10,480
a presentation by either Chief White or

2388
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:12,639
deputy director on on a study session on

2389
01:32:12,639 --> 01:32:14,000
on body warn. So you'll have an

2390
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,440
opportunity to kind of weigh in on what

2391
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:18,400
you think as well. Um, public works.

2392
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,639
can't say enough about

2393
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:23,440
uh public works with uh resignation of

2394
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:27,280
director Todd and our interim uh public

2395
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,960
works director who's doing an excellent

2396
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,480
job

2397
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:33,760
uh not only managing

2398
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,040
uh engineers and maintenance operations

2399
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,000
but

2400
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,480
thinking about the fundamental shift

2401
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:45,199
between just thinking about C CIP and M

2402
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:47,920
and starting to think about utilities

2403
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,239
transportation, parks and trails,

2404
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:52,080
facilities,

2405
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,520
garbage and recycling, and how

2406
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:54,960
engineering supports all those different

2407
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,040
divisions. So, it's a different way of

2408
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,719
thinking, but it's it's it's a better

2409
01:32:58,719 --> 01:33:01,679
way to execute um public works

2410
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:03,679
department. Um I'm not going to go over

2411
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:05,920
the whole list of projects, but you see

2412
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:10,639
them in the report. Um

2413
01:33:10,639 --> 01:33:12,480
yeah, everything's everything's moving

2414
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:15,760
forward on this list. Um, one thing I I

2415
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,840
do want to mention, shaving and panel

2416
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,480
replacement, that's about 80% complete.

2417
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:23,120
Um, I think 7 out of 10, 70%, but I

2418
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,120
think it's a little further than that.

2419
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,600
Uh, 70. Um, uh, keep in mind panel

2420
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,639
contract is coming in 2027. Although the

2421
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:35,920
team uh replaced 92 deteriorated

2422
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,760
sidewalk panels, those were emergent

2423
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,760
panels. Um, it take us probably 10 years

2424
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,960
to finish all of them. So, we're going

2425
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:46,000
to bring forward a contract to to handle

2426
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,639
all the other panels across uh the city

2427
01:33:48,639 --> 01:33:51,199
that precision precision concrete had

2428
01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:57,830
identified as needing replacement. Um

2429
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,000
uh let's see what else. Um Trillium

2430
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,480
Design um significant comments from our

2431
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:07,760
public and from uh council. We're going

2432
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:11,520
to revisit uh and reassess um the design

2433
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,280
of Trillium internally. We're talking

2434
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,600
about that right now. So, uh more to

2435
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:20,000
come there and uh um I think you'll um

2436
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,679
we'll explore that and bring back um

2437
01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:25,120
some ideas we have in terms of how to um

2438
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:29,199
just reassess that that design. So, um

2439
01:34:29,199 --> 01:34:32,480
but we're silly is in the works. Um uh

2440
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:34,000
we're the consultant still out there

2441
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,159
trying to I think I'm not sure where she

2442
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:38,639
where they're at with the um assessment

2443
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:40,239
of the public facility, but I know they

2444
01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:43,920
made contact with the owner. So um more

2445
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,880
information is to come on that. Um

2446
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,920
community development

2447
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,000
trying to stay within my 15 so I'm I'm

2448
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,199
trying to go a little bit faster but

2449
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:55,120
community development planning. Thanks

2450
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:56,960
for director Ryan for one of the few

2451
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,639
who's actually put together an SOP to

2452
01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:00,800
improve the workflow of the permitting

2453
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,080
process. Um it's in place, it's working.

2454
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,440
Engineers are um doing their job and in

2455
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:10,239
and um accomplishing their task and

2456
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:11,679
timelines in terms of the perming that

2457
01:35:11,679 --> 01:35:13,760
it's been a big issue in the past about

2458
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,520
how long it's been take to get a permit

2459
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,280
issued. And so um that workflow is

2460
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,639
improving. Um the Keslock property, the

2461
01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:24,639
planned residential development behind

2462
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:26,639
Lowe's. Uh we're excited about getting

2463
01:35:26,639 --> 01:35:28,800
development revenues coming in for that

2464
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,040
onetime revenues. Um just give you an

2465
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,360
example of what those revenues

2466
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,679
um what we can do with those revenues.

2467
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:37,440
Of course, they're designated for

2468
01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:41,040
planning purposes, but there may be some

2469
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,239
ways that it would help our budget. So,

2470
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:47,520
just wanted to bring that up. um about

2471
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,159
the onetime plans. Oh, we two vacancies

2472
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:51,520
were filled, senior planner and the

2473
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,120
planner. So, we're excited to have um uh

2474
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,199
Justin upgraded to a senior planner and

2475
01:35:57,199 --> 01:35:59,840
then we have Serena as our new new

2476
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,639
planner. Um information technology. I

2477
01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:03,760
don't know if you've noticed those

2478
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,040
things sticking out of the ceiling in

2479
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,600
some places, but we've improved the

2480
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,400
wireless infrastructure and data um

2481
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,800
wireless access points across the city.

2482
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,199
And so, um, you can see them in in in

2483
01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:18,639
the office, but, um, kudos to our IT

2484
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:20,800
team for doing that. We're we switched

2485
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,159
from Verizon to T-Mobile. Um, uh, big

2486
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,480
move based on quality of service and and

2487
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:28,719
the cost as well. So, um, not

2488
01:36:28,719 --> 01:36:30,639
everybody's happy about iPhones, but,

2489
01:36:30,639 --> 01:36:33,360
uh, it's easier for our department to

2490
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,440
manage. So, um, finance

2491
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:38,880
um, kicked off, thanks to our finance

2492
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,040
director, we kicked off the 2728 budget

2493
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:45,750
discussions. Um

2494
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,320
biggest challenges are not a surprise

2495
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,239
attributed to significant increases in

2496
01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:52,480
in mainly three areas in our budget.

2497
01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:54,800
You're all familiar with the WCIA costs

2498
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,040
of our um yearly premiums. Uh finance

2499
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:00,480
director mentioned prosecuting attorney

2500
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:03,199
fees and and jail cost too. Uh things

2501
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:05,119
that we cannot control and you'll hear

2502
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:06,400
more about that as we start talking

2503
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,280
about the budget discussions uh coming

2504
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,480
up in in a month or so. Um the finance

2505
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:14,239
department also completed two reports

2506
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:16,719
including the the state and local uh

2507
01:37:16,719 --> 01:37:18,800
fiscal recovery funds report and the

2508
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,480
2025 financial report to the state

2509
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:23,440
auditor's office. So thanks to to the

2510
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:25,280
finance department. We're still working

2511
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,440
on type plus executing that across

2512
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:30,639
departments. Um and and so that that

2513
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:32,560
that'll probably be done by the end of

2514
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,679
the year. Um

2515
01:37:35,679 --> 01:37:38,239
financial condition uh just briefly

2516
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:42,960
reserve levels about 8 million uh

2517
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,119
including the 4.7 which meets that 15

2518
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:47,119
minute minimum requirement. So there's a

2519
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:49,280
surplus about 3.3.

2520
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,719
Um bank capacity is about 2.3.

2521
01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:54,880
Um so just give you a sense of the

2522
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,639
number of levers that we do have moving

2523
01:37:56,639 --> 01:37:58,880
forward uh to make financial decisions.

2524
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,800
So we are in a good position I think

2525
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,280
moving forward. Um, with that, I'll just

2526
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,280
mention that just last Friday, we asked

2527
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,960
our department heads to cut another 5%

2528
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,320
of our budget. So, we're trying to be

2529
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,520
responsible, ensuring that we balance 27

2530
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,840
and 28. It's not easy to find, but we

2531
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,360
will figure out how to do that. Um,

2532
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,080
uh, so just a lot of moving moving parts

2533
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,800
on the finance side of things. Um,

2534
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,960
finance, future needs, and challenges. I

2535
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,600
did mention bodywork cameras and the,

2536
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,159
uh, code inspector position. Um, those

2537
01:38:30,159 --> 01:38:32,719
are the two key two key items that uh

2538
01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:35,840
that I'm focusing on for 2728 that are

2539
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:40,400
not currently in the budget. Um,

2540
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,760
and I think that's it, mayor. Um,

2541
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,520
oh,

2542
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,119
finance director will report on the

2543
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:52,149
municipal adviser. But, um,

2544
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:55,280
any questions on the on the

2545
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,109
>> um, first, Council Member Kobesky,

2546
01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:57,119
» um, first, Council Member Kobesky,

2547
01:38:57,119 --> 01:38:58,400
you're still lit up. Did I just forget

2548
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,400
to clear you? Okay. Just want to make

2549
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,639
sure I wasn't um Did anyone else have

2550
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:04,480
any questions?

2551
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:06,159
Council member Stackler,

2552
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:08,229
>> I just had one. Um and it was on the

2553
01:39:08,229 --> 01:39:08,239
» I just had one. Um and it was on the

2554
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:12,960
DRCC. Um I I was a little bit unclear

2555
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,600
about expectations at the end of the

2556
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:16,800
year. You know, what what are we

2557
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:19,913
expecting to have completed? And and

2558
01:39:19,913 --> 01:39:20,880
[clears throat] this might have been an

2559
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,639
act of communication or it could be this

2560
01:39:22,639 --> 01:39:25,600
incredibly tiny type face that you have

2561
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,480
in here that's almost impossible for old

2562
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:32,239
people to read. But it looked like

2563
01:39:32,239 --> 01:39:34,000
at the I I was under the impression at

2564
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,480
the end of this year we will have

2565
01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:40,639
reached a conclusion as to the um

2566
01:39:40,639 --> 01:39:44,960
concepts and and and planning for DRCC.

2567
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,239
we would know exactly what we're going

2568
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:50,719
to have and then in 2027 we can now move

2569
01:39:50,719 --> 01:39:53,199
forward and and and build and come up

2570
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:54,800
with the money and that type of thing.

2571
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,239
But when I was reading some of this in

2572
01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:58,560
here, it looks like there will be

2573
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,320
development planning that will occur in

2574
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,159
2027.

2575
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:04,880
Um, and actual development will commence

2576
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:09,199
past 2027. I assume that means 2028. So,

2577
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:11,360
it seemed like DRCC is getting pushed

2578
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,600
out again further. And I I was a little

2579
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,480
concerned if that was my misinformation.

2580
01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:19,199
I thought we were going to be

2581
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:22,719
moving forward next year in 2027.

2582
01:40:22,719 --> 01:40:24,159
You know, we would know what we want. We

2583
01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:25,760
know what it want to look like. We're in

2584
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,880
agreement on the council and you know,

2585
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,159
the next step is not planning but more

2586
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:35,040
building financing.

2587
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,030
>> Did I get that wrong?

2588
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:37,040
» Did I get that wrong?

2589
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,709
>> No, you did not actually. The most

2590
01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:38,719
» No, you did not actually. The most

2591
01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:39,840
significant challenge ahead is

2592
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:41,440
developing a financing strategy that

2593
01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:43,600
aligns

2594
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,400
your long-term projects with our capital

2595
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,239
needs as well, infrastructure and

2596
01:40:48,239 --> 01:40:50,639
everything. Uh master planning will be

2597
01:40:50,639 --> 01:40:53,520
done by the end of the year and both

2598
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,719
South Center and DRCC. Uh annexation,

2599
01:40:56,719 --> 01:40:58,159
you'll have a we'll have a decision on

2600
01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:01,920
that in October. uh DRCC originally was

2601
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,520
planned there's one item on there on

2602
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,679
that strategic plan in 27 where it did

2603
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:08,960
say development to start in 27

2604
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:12,709
>> that is not feasible um after we

2605
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:12,719
» that is not feasible um after we

2606
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:14,400
complete the master planning there has

2607
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:18,880
to be a design stage of the actual

2608
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:22,560
infrastructure where we would get it to

2609
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,920
uh what we call development ready

2610
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,350
>> I thought that's this year this year was

2611
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:27,360
» I thought that's this year this year was

2612
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,560
the design stage Uh well, it may have

2613
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,480
been on that, but what we're trying to

2614
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:35,199
do is look at the entire three years as

2615
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:36,719
an opportunity to accomplish these

2616
01:41:36,719 --> 01:41:40,800
tasks. Uh not just um hold these tasks

2617
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,400
to the year which they were written. Um

2618
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,360
we have capacity strains across the

2619
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,280
teams to try to maintain our daily

2620
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,840
operations and we're working on. But um

2621
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,480
I think it's a huge accomplishment to

2622
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:57,360
stay within those three years. Um so you

2623
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,159
are correct. It did say develop in 2027,

2624
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:04,639
but um there has to be a design stage um

2625
01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:07,360
as it lists on the CIP plan for 27 and

2626
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,440
then as we move forward, we'll start to

2627
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:12,239
develop and maybe I'm guessing probably

2628
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:16,470
late 28 2 and 29.

2629
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:16,960
Go ahead.

2630
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,870
>> The fact that this is this is our oldest

2631
01:42:18,870 --> 01:42:18,880
» The fact that this is this is our oldest

2632
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,719
project, right?

2633
01:42:20,719 --> 01:42:22,070
>> PRCC.

2634
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:22,080
» PRCC.

2635
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:22,950
>> Yeah. Which

2636
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:22,960
» Yeah. Which

2637
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,109
>> that goes back over, you know, 10 years.

2638
01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:25,119
» that goes back over, you know, 10 years.

2639
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:25,520
Yeah,

2640
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,070
>> that is correct. So, it's it's the you

2641
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:28,080
» that is correct. So, it's it's the you

2642
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,159
know there shouldn't it be one that we

2643
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:32,719
want to move forward with sooner rather

2644
01:42:32,719 --> 01:42:35,199
than later? I mean, Southtown Center,

2645
01:42:35,199 --> 01:42:38,719
yes, we've got 2040 deadlines of getting

2646
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:39,520
that.

2647
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,830
>> I recommend not looking at DRC in a

2648
01:42:41,830 --> 01:42:41,840
» I recommend not looking at DRC in a

2649
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,520
silo. Um you're going to see that all

2650
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:46,800
these projects going to have a

2651
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:50,639
significant cost. Um it's important to

2652
01:42:50,639 --> 01:42:52,320
stage

2653
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:55,360
um annexations at Southtown Center,

2654
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,320
DRCC. Uh you want Trillium and Silver

2655
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,960
Crest Drive uh done in all the other

2656
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,360
projects, the public works facility. So

2657
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:04,560
we're going to have to sit down. The

2658
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,760
staff is already starting to discuss um

2659
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:09,600
and we set up meetings to start to bring

2660
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,440
forward a draft of what we think may be

2661
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:15,679
a good staging for the city. Um we we we

2662
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:17,920
live this every single day.

2663
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,560
And uh but we will bring something to

2664
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,320
council so you have an opportunity to

2665
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,239
make a decision on what you think should

2666
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,880
be staged and how it should be staged.

2667
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,400
Um

2668
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,080
so there has to be trade-offs. You have

2669
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,080
to look at trade-offs. Our good bonding

2670
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,560
capacity is 100 million. Now that that's

2671
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,280
just the tip of the iceberg of what I

2672
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,800
think we need to to move all these

2673
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:42,000
things forward. Um

2674
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,760
hopefully that gives you a sense is it's

2675
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,360
a trade-off. It's really a trade-off

2676
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,679
discussion. Um, and we haven't gotten

2677
01:43:47,679 --> 01:43:49,280
there yet. We're just not going to build

2678
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,679
the DRCC and be done with it. We got to

2679
01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:54,080
think about the impact of of what

2680
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,600
annexation could provide in terms of

2681
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,600
bonding capacity going forward if we do

2682
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:01,119
grow as well. And so, um, I know kind of

2683
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:02,639
bit across the board on a lot of things,

2684
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:05,119
but so there's the quick things that

2685
01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:06,480
come to mind at the moment.

2686
01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:07,830
>> Yeah. Um, deputy [clears throat]

2687
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:07,840
» Yeah. Um, deputy [clears throat]

2688
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,239
director wanted to say something or

2689
01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:11,920
deputy city manager

2690
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,470
>> after our next meeting. There might be a

2691
01:44:14,470 --> 01:44:14,480
» after our next meeting. There might be a

2692
01:44:14,480 --> 01:44:16,560
little bit more consensus across council

2693
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:21,280
on when DRCC moves forward. Um, just

2694
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,480
because of the possible impact on taxes

2695
01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:26,719
with the bonding capacity and the funds

2696
01:44:26,719 --> 01:44:30,239
needed to execute DRCC. More than

2697
01:44:30,239 --> 01:44:32,159
likely, it would take nearly all of our

2698
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:35,600
bonding capacity. And so that would the

2699
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,560
bond payment for that would be a

2700
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,320
substantial tax increase

2701
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,629
>> of our current

2702
01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:42,639
» of our current

2703
01:44:42,639 --> 01:44:44,159
Mil Creek but not correct

2704
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:47,270
>> the future annexed Mil Creek would be a

2705
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:47,280
» the future annexed Mil Creek would be a

2706
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,199
much higher bonding capacity. It would

2707
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:51,119
be a higher bonding capacity if we

2708
01:44:51,119 --> 01:44:53,920
annex, but it's still going to be a

2709
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,510
>> fairly

2710
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:55,520
» fairly

2711
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,159
high tax increase to make the bond

2712
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:00,719
payment each year

2713
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:04,149
>> just because of I think it's going to be

2714
01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:04,159
» just because of I think it's going to be

2715
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:09,109
very eye opening when we see numbers.

2716
01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:12,159
I'm I'm just um yeah, I guess I'm I'm

2717
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:15,199
I'm disappointed when we set goals and

2718
01:45:15,199 --> 01:45:18,560
deadlines and then we say, "Well, we're

2719
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:19,840
we're not going to make them. We're

2720
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,920
going to" and this is something we

2721
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:23,520
discussed last year was when we didn't

2722
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,199
move forward on DRCC that we wanted to

2723
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:28,400
just move forward on DRCC and now we're

2724
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,080
not not doing that. So, I'm

2725
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:31,600
disappointed. I guess you'll have to

2726
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,679
give me better information then maybe

2727
01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:36,080
our next meeting I'll understand better.

2728
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,159
But I I've you know when when I look

2729
01:45:38,159 --> 01:45:40,080
back at all of the projects that we've

2730
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,000
got here, yeah, they all need to be done

2731
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,480
at the same time. I understand that. But

2732
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:45,920
some of these have, you know, been on

2733
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,239
the shelf for so long that, you know,

2734
01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:50,000
they're just definitely going to

2735
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,510
>> die of old age before they ever get

2736
01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:51,520
» die of old age before they ever get

2737
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:52,159
born.

2738
01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:54,149
>> We will be ready for development. The

2739
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:54,159
» We will be ready for development. The

2740
01:45:54,159 --> 01:45:56,080
design has to happen first. And I think

2741
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:57,840
one thing I want to make sure we put in

2742
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,880
record is that for the future of this

2743
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,800
city,

2744
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,880
everybody made a decision that one of

2745
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,639
the key principles is financial

2746
01:46:06,639 --> 01:46:08,719
viability.

2747
01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:10,470
>> And the truth is,

2748
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:10,480
» And the truth is,

2749
01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:11,750
>> I'm sorry, what was the word?

2750
01:46:11,750 --> 01:46:11,760
» I'm sorry, what was the word?

2751
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:12,790
>> Financial viability.

2752
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:12,800
» Financial viability.

2753
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:13,750
>> Financial viability.

2754
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:13,760
» Financial viability.

2755
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,470
>> Right.

2756
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:16,480
» Right.

2757
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:19,750
>> The DRCC is an important project. the

2758
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:19,760
» The DRCC is an important project. the

2759
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,400
Southtown Center as well. The Southtown

2760
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:26,880
Center is more of an economic play. Um,

2761
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,760
annexation provides

2762
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,920
uh the needed net positive revenue to

2763
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,400
move things forward. And so that's how

2764
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,880
I'm thinking in terms of it's not what's

2765
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:38,400
important, rather what is our financing

2766
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,480
strategy moving forward to accomplish

2767
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:42,639
all the things that you want to have

2768
01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:44,239
done. And so that's kind of what I'm

2769
01:46:44,239 --> 01:46:47,360
thinking in terms of um it's not

2770
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,239
prioritizing

2771
01:46:50,239 --> 01:46:52,960
So pri prioritizing or putting something

2772
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,560
after another does not mean it's less

2773
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:56,960
important to me. It's making sure that

2774
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,360
we have a game plan to to get there. And

2775
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,520
so that's the way I'm thinking. It's

2776
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,280
it's not that the DRCC is less

2777
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,000
important. Um but it's just that's how

2778
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,000
the cards are playing right now anyway.

2779
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:08,639
But

2780
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:10,550
>> will the DRCC

2781
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:10,560
» will the DRCC

2782
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,560
design be completed by the end of the

2783
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:12,880
year? Can

2784
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,030
>> I say something quick?

2785
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:15,040
» I say something quick?

2786
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,510
>> Forget the financial. Well, the design

2787
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:17,520
» Forget the financial. Well, the design

2788
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,040
and elements that we originally agreed

2789
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:20,560
upon, will those those be completed by

2790
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:21,280
the end of the year?

2791
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,109
>> Yeah, we

2792
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:23,119
» Yeah, we

2793
01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:26,870
>> can I say something real quick on this

2794
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:26,880
» can I say something real quick on this

2795
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,520
because I think

2796
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,440
we're having a communication

2797
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:33,199
complication

2798
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:35,360
and I think

2799
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,880
we are believing that a master plan

2800
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,800
is possibly something that technically a

2801
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,199
master plan is not.

2802
01:47:43,199 --> 01:47:45,040
And so

2803
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,600
I think council

2804
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,639
believes we're at one place

2805
01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:52,000
when we're really at somewhere

2806
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,520
different.

2807
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:54,880
And I think we're trying to have this

2808
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,560
communication

2809
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:02,229
and it's just not working. And

2810
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:04,320
it's getting

2811
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:09,280
this chasm is getting bigger

2812
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,520
because I keep bringing up things and

2813
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,520
we're not listening.

2814
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:17,280
And I think what Council Member Steckler

2815
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:18,880
is

2816
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,560
bringing to light is that we think we're

2817
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,719
doing one thing. And so I really think

2818
01:48:26,719 --> 01:48:28,960
that we need to make sure that we're

2819
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,600
talking to all of council and getting

2820
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:34,800
everybody on board with where where

2821
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,400
we're at and what we're looking at

2822
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,400
because I really don't think that we

2823
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,000
have a clear picture of what's going on.

2824
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,719
So we need to fix that communication.

2825
01:48:44,719 --> 01:48:47,600
Would it help if we gave in uh just a

2826
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,080
quick overview of what master planning

2827
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:53,760
is going to accomplish or

2828
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,590
what?

2829
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,159
So, yeah. So, we're on the same page as

2830
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:04,310
uh

2831
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,080
what is going to be accomplished by the

2832
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:09,669
end of the year.

2833
01:49:09,679 --> 01:49:11,520
That's probably a great first step

2834
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:12,880
because that's what brought up my

2835
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:13,920
question

2836
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,229
>> was we had agreement as to what would be

2837
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:16,239
» was we had agreement as to what would be

2838
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:19,840
done by the end of this year for DRCC

2839
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:21,600
and now for the first time I'm hearing

2840
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,119
that's not going to happen by the end of

2841
01:49:23,119 --> 01:49:24,560
this year or may not happen by the end

2842
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,000
of this year. It may double over to next

2843
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:27,679
year and there'll be more planning in

2844
01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:30,000
the next year and that's the first time

2845
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,760
I've heard that. So that's why I'm

2846
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:35,760
bringing it up now at this update. Um, I

2847
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,840
I don't understand why we can't We've

2848
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,639
hired a consultant to put together this

2849
01:49:40,639 --> 01:49:43,520
plan to help us with that. Why can't we

2850
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,119
get it done by the end of the year?

2851
01:49:45,119 --> 01:49:46,950
>> The master plan will be done. That

2852
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:46,960
» The master plan will be done. That

2853
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,520
That's clear. Correct.

2854
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,790
>> Okay. The line in here that says

2855
01:49:52,790 --> 01:49:52,800
» Okay. The line in here that says

2856
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,679
there'll be more planning in 2027. So if

2857
01:49:55,679 --> 01:49:59,199
I could um interject quickly. So I think

2858
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:00,880
maybe one of the disconnects might be

2859
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:03,199
what is a master plan and what is what

2860
01:50:03,199 --> 01:50:05,520
do we mean by like a site design, right?

2861
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,080
Or like a design for a project, right?

2862
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:11,760
So a a master plan per the RFP that I

2863
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,480
presented to council and um brought back

2864
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:16,960
with the contract. A master plan is

2865
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:18,880
something that determines what are the

2866
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,040
uses are going to go there and where the

2867
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,520
buildings generally going to go and

2868
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,520
where are the roads we'd like for it to

2869
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:29,040
go. The actual design of those roads and

2870
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:30,960
those sidewalks like what grade they

2871
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,119
walk at, where the water technically

2872
01:50:33,119 --> 01:50:35,600
goes and get built, that's in the actual

2873
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,280
engineering drawings and that's in the

2874
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,840
actual arch architectural drawings.

2875
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:43,040
That's a technical process that is part

2876
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:44,719
of the entitlements process of a

2877
01:50:44,719 --> 01:50:46,960
project. Um, if you recall the Southtown

2878
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:48,880
Center, same thing. The master plan

2879
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,400
determined where is the road alignment

2880
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:51,600
going to go, where are the buildings

2881
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:52,960
going to type, and what's the uses

2882
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:55,920
there. But the actual technical design

2883
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,560
of the storm water system is something

2884
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,679
that is developed after you adopt a

2885
01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:03,280
master plan. And it's same thing with

2886
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,480
the DRCC. We this process is developing.

2887
01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:08,560
Okay. Well, we're going to put X, Y, and

2888
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,800
Z uses there, and the buildings are

2889
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,040
generally going to go right here. But in

2890
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,280
terms of that doesn't mean that we've

2891
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,080
designed the actual architectural plans

2892
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,000
that are going to be built as part of

2893
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,960
that process. That's um that's in the

2894
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,800
next phase of the development. Um, and I

2895
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:28,320
believe that's consistent with that's

2896
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:30,960
with uh what was previously brought

2897
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,080
forward in uh

2898
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,679
with when I when we brought forward the

2899
01:51:35,679 --> 01:51:38,080
RFP and then uh also the contract with

2900
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:39,599
Elellman. Does that answer your

2901
01:51:39,599 --> 01:51:40,960
question, Councilman Steckler?

2902
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,910
>> No. No, not at all. I'm I'm still very

2903
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:43,920
» No. No, not at all. I'm I'm still very

2904
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,119
confused as to what we said we were

2905
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:48,719
going to have and what we now say we're

2906
01:51:48,719 --> 01:51:51,679
going to have and the fact that we you

2907
01:51:51,679 --> 01:51:53,760
know what I what I think I'm what I'm

2908
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,000
starting to hear me personally one

2909
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,840
person from the council is we've done

2910
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,679
such a great job of planning here over

2911
01:51:59,679 --> 01:52:01,520
the next you know 101 15 years of what

2912
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,360
we're going to be doing here in our city

2913
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,080
that it it almost creates a paralysis of

2914
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,480
being able to move forward and you know

2915
01:52:08,480 --> 01:52:10,800
what what I would like to see is you

2916
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,800
know I wanted to see us move forward on

2917
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,280
one of our projects. And I wanted to be

2918
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,159
DRCC because granted, yeah, the

2919
01:52:18,159 --> 01:52:20,239
economics of Southtown Center, what

2920
01:52:20,239 --> 01:52:21,760
that's going to be are wonderful for our

2921
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,360
city. I'm worried about our citizens

2922
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,520
right now moving forward, giving giving

2923
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,119
back to them and creating that community

2924
01:52:27,119 --> 01:52:28,719
that, you know, we want to try to

2925
01:52:28,719 --> 01:52:31,119
create. Um, and I I thought we had

2926
01:52:31,119 --> 01:52:33,440
gained when I heard master plan that

2927
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:36,080
includes the utilization, what it's

2928
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:37,920
going to be, what the components going

2929
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:40,480
to be, that's what I understood maybe.

2930
01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:42,880
Yeah. Okay. not an architectural drawing

2931
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,119
of the square footage and you know uh

2932
01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:47,119
but it was going to be the questions

2933
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:49,599
that are still up here. We still are not

2934
01:52:49,599 --> 01:52:51,760
in agreement as to what is going to be

2935
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:55,040
in DRCC. What is it going what is DRCC

2936
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:56,800
going to be comprised of? we still

2937
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,520
haven't moved forward on that and to be

2938
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:03,760
at this stage seems to be um extremely

2939
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,880
frustrating to to me and I thought I was

2940
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,360
holding true on by the end of this year

2941
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,360
all those questions will be asked the

2942
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,639
only thing left is going to be to

2943
01:53:12,639 --> 01:53:16,880
develop or andor find the money and

2944
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,280
again finding the money first is always

2945
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:20,639
going to be the the one thing that will

2946
01:53:20,639 --> 01:53:23,360
stop us from moving forward always and

2947
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:24,960
we said that way back in the beginning

2948
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:26,239
when we started

2949
01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:28,560
All those years ago, remember Mayor

2950
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,119
Holtzclaw said, "If we if we if we focus

2951
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:33,280
on the funding first, we won't build

2952
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,599
anything. There's just too much money

2953
01:53:35,599 --> 01:53:37,520
and there's no way, you know, first we

2954
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,119
got to find out what we want, then we

2955
01:53:39,119 --> 01:53:40,239
find out how to fund it."

2956
01:53:40,239 --> 01:53:42,390
>> Council member, if I may, um I don't I

2957
01:53:42,390 --> 01:53:42,400
» Council member, if I may, um I don't I

2958
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:43,599
didn't disagree with the single thing

2959
01:53:43,599 --> 01:53:45,520
you just said. Um part of the master

2960
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,360
plan process is going to do that exact

2961
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:51,280
thing. Um that's by December of this

2962
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,840
year. We're going to have a resolution

2963
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,639
adopting a master plan on what are the

2964
01:53:56,639 --> 01:53:58,960
preferred uses, what are the what's the

2965
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,800
overall site plan going to look like,

2966
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,960
what it's what's going to go there, and

2967
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:05,119
then the next phase of the project is

2968
01:54:05,119 --> 01:54:08,560
the technical engineering stuff and like

2969
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,199
the and the stuff that's required for

2970
01:54:11,199 --> 01:54:13,199
the actual like entitlements and

2971
01:54:13,199 --> 01:54:15,599
permitting. So what we're saying is this

2972
01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:17,679
I think maybe we're talking about the

2973
01:54:17,679 --> 01:54:19,760
same thing that that's the actual

2974
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:21,199
conversation about what uses are going

2975
01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:23,840
to go where, what are the partners, all

2976
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,560
that stuff is part of the DRCC process

2977
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,239
that will be completed by December this

2978
01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:30,400
year. That is correct.

2979
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,070
>> Okay.

2980
01:54:32,070 --> 01:54:32,080
» Okay.

2981
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,599
That's not what I saw on this piece of

2982
01:54:33,599 --> 01:54:37,830
paper. That's what caused me a concern

2983
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:41,830
or I was confused.

2984
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:43,599
Okay.

2985
01:54:43,599 --> 01:54:49,109
Any other questions?

2986
01:54:49,119 --> 01:54:53,440
» No. All right, then we will Oh, do you

2987
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,040
have something else, Clinton?

2988
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,310
>> Yeah, I'll just make one last comment.

2989
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:56,320
» Yeah, I'll just make one last comment.

2990
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,480
And when we get together in these little

2991
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,400
groups, it'll give you an opportunity to

2992
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:02,480
kind of weigh in on what you're what

2993
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,320
we're talking about right now, these

2994
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,280
components, the financing piece, the

2995
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:08,800
concepts, and that's the reason why

2996
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:10,639
we're bringing council, as I mentioned

2997
01:55:10,639 --> 01:55:13,040
earlier, bringing you together. So you

2998
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,599
we're all on the same page because this

2999
01:55:15,599 --> 01:55:19,840
project is moving faster than we we we

3000
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,719
have about four months left. And so we

3001
01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:23,920
want to make sure we start to speed

3002
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,280
things up which means that we have to

3003
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:29,040
meet with all of you um on like a two on

3004
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:31,280
two on two basis or two on three basis.

3005
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,199
So um that's yet to come and then I'll

3006
01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:36,480
give you an opportunity to kind of see

3007
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,480
how we're move progressing. So hopefully

3008
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:42,400
that helps a little bit. Um next I'll

3009
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,040
forward this to our um deputy police

3010
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,040
chief to report on national night out

3011
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:51,350
and rescheduling that. Thanks.

3012
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:54,480
Thank you, city manager, council, mayor.

3013
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,639
Um, well, yeah, we had to cancel

3014
01:55:56,639 --> 01:55:58,320
National Night Out because of the air

3015
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,040
quality. Uh, and being an outdoor event,

3016
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,360
it was not the right thing to do. We

3017
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:05,840
thought to be out outside and exposing

3018
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,159
everyone. So, we made that difficult

3019
01:56:08,159 --> 01:56:10,560
decision, but because of our great

3020
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,199
detective Sergeant Fleming and our

3021
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:16,400
volunteer Barb, um, they were able to

3022
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,119
get it rescheduled for the 18th. So, we

3023
01:56:19,119 --> 01:56:21,679
will be having it on the 18th at Buffalo

3024
01:56:21,679 --> 01:56:25,920
Park from 5 to 8. Um, the majority of

3025
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:27,360
our vendors will be there. There'll be

3026
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,199
hot dogs from the chambers and ice

3027
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:32,719
cream. Um, uh, the South County Fire

3028
01:56:32,719 --> 01:56:34,320
will be there as well as, uh, the

3029
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,719
Department of Fish and Wildlife.

3030
01:56:36,719 --> 01:56:40,560
We'll have barb dancing and, uh, a bunch

3031
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,599
of activities that'll be, um, good for

3032
01:56:43,599 --> 01:56:46,080
everybody. I believe um we will be

3033
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,280
taking donations um for school supplies

3034
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,520
and uh the Mil Creek Food Bank will be

3035
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,000
accepting donations as well. So again on

3036
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,719
the 18th 5 to 8 at Buffalo Park.

3037
01:56:56,719 --> 01:56:58,719
Hopefully it's a beautiful night. Thank

3038
01:56:58,719 --> 01:56:59,599
you.

3039
01:56:59,599 --> 01:57:01,589
>> Just a follow up to that. Kowanas also

3040
01:57:01,589 --> 01:57:01,599
» Just a follow up to that. Kowanas also

3041
01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:04,239
has 300 bottles of water in my garage

3042
01:57:04,239 --> 01:57:05,760
ready to be given away free at that

3043
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,719
event. We're ready to go.

3044
01:57:08,719 --> 01:57:10,470
>> Excellent.

3045
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:10,480
» Excellent.

3046
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,080
Thank you.

3047
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:13,360
And the last report is the finance

3048
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:16,320
director will report on uh the contracts

3049
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,440
we will be executing uh financial

3050
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,119
municipal related contracts that will

3051
01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:23,840
help us advise us on the projects that

3052
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:26,480
were we've been speaking about. So

3053
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:27,760
finance director

3054
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,390
>> thank you city manager Yamamoto. Um so

3055
01:57:30,390 --> 01:57:30,400
» thank you city manager Yamamoto. Um so

3056
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,239
we just I just wanted to advise council

3057
01:57:32,239 --> 01:57:34,000
of the three contracts that we are

3058
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,000
working on to help us with the uh

3059
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:39,280
surface water financing. So recall that

3060
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,599
um earlier this year um council

3061
01:57:41,599 --> 01:57:43,599
authorized an inter fund loan from the

3062
01:57:43,599 --> 01:57:46,639
reed fund to surface water so we could

3063
01:57:46,639 --> 01:57:49,599
um fully fund the catch basin project.

3064
01:57:49,599 --> 01:57:51,679
Um but that's primarily because when we

3065
01:57:51,679 --> 01:57:53,440
do when we did the projection the

3066
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,199
surface water will not have enough funds

3067
01:57:55,199 --> 01:57:57,840
to support that project. And so to

3068
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:01,199
advance that um we have already executed

3069
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:04,000
a contract with um the financial

3070
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:06,960
consulting solutions. Um they will do

3071
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,159
the rate um study for us. Um they were

3072
01:58:10,159 --> 01:58:12,560
the same um consultants that did the

3073
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:16,080
2018 rate study for surface water. Um,

3074
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,560
and so we're ready to move forward with

3075
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,520
that contract. That's about a $43,000

3076
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,440
contract. And then we are also

3077
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,320
finalizing a bond council contract as

3078
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,719
well as a municipal advisor contract.

3079
01:58:28,719 --> 01:58:31,520
Um, so with the financing, we anticipate

3080
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,760
um some type of recommendation for

3081
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:36,719
either a bond or a private placement. Um

3082
01:58:36,719 --> 01:58:41,440
and so the this work is um both the uh

3083
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,280
bond council and the mun municipal

3084
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,800
adviser are both about 50,000 um and

3085
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,360
those um contracts will be paid out of

3086
01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:51,920
the bond proceeds. Um that concludes my

3087
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,880
report, city manager. Thank you.

3088
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:56,390
>> We have no other reports, mayor. Thank

3089
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:56,400
» We have no other reports, mayor. Thank

3090
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:57,920
you.

3091
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:01,830
>> Thank you. Um I just have well two

3092
01:59:01,830 --> 01:59:01,840
» Thank you. Um I just have well two

3093
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,320
things. So, one brief thing I am going

3094
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,760
to personally send a letter um over to

3095
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:09,599
council member me this evening ahead of

3096
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:12,000
their discussion tomorrow on the public

3097
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,760
um safety tax um council tax that they

3098
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,599
are discussing and having public comment

3099
01:59:17,599 --> 01:59:20,159
tomorrow. Um, and specifically, I'm

3100
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:23,920
wanting to ask that, um, they consider

3101
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,320
pausing on this vote and considering it

3102
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:29,840
in with their budget. Um, and maybe

3103
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,320
consider doing some things such as not

3104
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,159
raising jail costs if they're going to

3105
01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:38,400
do the do this tax. Um, so I just want

3106
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:39,679
to let you guys know I'm going to do

3107
01:59:39,679 --> 01:59:42,639
this and then ask you, do you want me to

3108
01:59:42,639 --> 01:59:44,880
do it on behalf of the whole council or

3109
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,520
do you want me just do it for myself?

3110
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:48,400
Yes, please.

3111
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,870
>> Council. Okay, perfect. I will do that

3112
01:59:50,870 --> 01:59:50,880
» Council. Okay, perfect. I will do that

3113
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,040
and I did speak to um council member me

3114
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:56,400
this afternoon about it as well. So, um

3115
01:59:56,400 --> 02:00:00,400
second thing was just that um I don't

3116
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,960
remember the exact date yet, but be on

3117
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,719
the lookout because the SCT general

3118
02:00:04,719 --> 02:00:07,679
assembly is going to be um in September

3119
02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:10,159
this year. I think it's the 26th, but

3120
02:00:10,159 --> 02:00:11,920
that might be wrong. Um so, keep an eye

3121
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,080
out. Normally, it's in December. So,

3122
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:15,599
they've moved it up this year. So, we're

3123
02:00:15,599 --> 02:00:17,199
having the general assembly and we'll be

3124
02:00:17,199 --> 02:00:18,639
going through and presenting and talking

3125
02:00:18,639 --> 02:00:20,239
about all the things the exploratory

3126
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:22,400
committee has been going over and where

3127
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,639
we're at and what's been implemented.

3128
02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:26,480
So, just wanted to let you guys know

3129
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:30,400
that. And that's it. So, mayor Tim, I

3130
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,560
have a little bit uh the first I just

3131
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,960
want to say um uh save the date for

3132
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:36,880
September 15th. If you are available,

3133
02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:38,800
please let me know for the Mil Creek

3134
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:40,560
Chamber of Commerce's lunch and learn

3135
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,159
from 11:30 p.m. to 1:00 p.m. Um, I

3136
02:00:44,159 --> 02:00:45,840
wanted to flag the wonderful speaker

3137
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,880
that will be there um that Tuesday and

3138
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,520
that is Jeff Ryan over there. [laughter]

3139
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:55,760
Um, and I had up and then it went away

3140
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,320
the discussion. So, it is to Oh, there

3141
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:00,639
it is. Um, uh, he'll be this is the

3142
02:01:00,639 --> 02:01:02,400
title of it. Improving sign regulations,

3143
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,400
a business community conversation. join

3144
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:06,080
the city for a collaborative discussion

3145
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,159
as we begin work on updating our sign

3146
02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:09,760
regulations. The round table will focus

3147
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:11,199
on how current signage rules affect

3148
02:01:11,199 --> 02:01:13,280
business visibility. But I share this

3149
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:14,400
with you because it's definitely

3150
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:16,000
something that the business community

3151
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,320
and our city has asked for over and over

3152
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:20,719
again um about just understanding better

3153
02:01:20,719 --> 02:01:22,880
rules and and language like that. So I

3154
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,599
really appreciate um Jeff Ryan's um

3155
02:01:25,599 --> 02:01:27,520
opportunity to come and speak and make

3156
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:32,000
it not just a speech speaking like at um

3157
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,760
members. we've really got great feedback

3158
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:37,360
from the two um kind of government

3159
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:38,800
events that we did last year with them

3160
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,040
with the lunch and learn um and so I'm

3161
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,280
really thankful for um his insight and

3162
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:46,159
um and his um willingness to make it a

3163
02:01:46,159 --> 02:01:48,000
conversation. So, thank you very much to

3164
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,480
him. So, if you're available um please

3165
02:01:50,480 --> 02:01:52,719
um sign up to the chambers uh lunch and

3166
02:01:52,719 --> 02:01:56,480
learn meetings. Uh earlier today I had a

3167
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,639
meeting with it's the South Snomish

3168
02:01:58,639 --> 02:02:00,560
County Mayor Promss and Council

3169
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:04,320
Presidents um that we do via Zoom um not

3170
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:06,914
in person like the cool mayors do. Um

3171
02:02:06,914 --> 02:02:07,760
[laughter]

3172
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,840
um and I had two things I wanted to talk

3173
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:11,119
about it that I thought would be helpful

3174
02:02:11,119 --> 02:02:13,520
for for everyone. One actually the mayor

3175
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:16,639
just talked about her request for it. Um

3176
02:02:16,639 --> 02:02:19,360
the city of Lynwood um they motioned to

3177
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:20,880
authorize their council president to

3178
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,280
provide testimony at tomorrow's uh

3179
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,520
county council. Um they're specifically

3180
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,520
asking just just flagging we're

3181
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:29,360
different. We asked for a hold I think

3182
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:31,199
is what she's u mentioning including

3183
02:02:31,199 --> 02:02:33,119
with the budget but they're asking to

3184
02:02:33,119 --> 02:02:35,119
make an amendment so that the money goes

3185
02:02:35,119 --> 02:02:38,000
um um to cities and and there's and I

3186
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,679
can forward with you like the full

3187
02:02:39,679 --> 02:02:42,480
thing. Um, council president Nicole had

3188
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:44,880
a lot to say about it in terms of, you

3189
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:46,239
know, proposing the jail fees and he

3190
02:02:46,239 --> 02:02:47,280
talked about what happened at the

3191
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,960
meeting and so I just did want to flag

3192
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:50,560
that there's a lot of there there, you

3193
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,040
know, we are all trying to um, do

3194
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,199
something with it. Um, and so flagging

3195
02:02:55,199 --> 02:02:56,400
and I'm very thankful for the mayor

3196
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:58,400
being able to um, because he he will be

3197
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:00,080
in attendance. So if anyone else is

3198
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:03,119
available, I want to say it's 10:30 a.m.

3199
02:03:03,119 --> 02:03:04,560
public hearing at the county this

3200
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,679
Tuesday. So, uh, or not Tuesday, sorry.

3201
02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:09,760
But, um,

3202
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,239
tomorrow, yeah, he wrote Tuesday and

3203
02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:13,280
then I read it and I was like, nope,

3204
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,199
today's Tuesday. So, if anyone's around

3205
02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:16,960
or interested, not you don't have to

3206
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:18,560
provide testimony. We have a letter

3207
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,239
being written, but you know, if you're

3208
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:22,159
there for support in whichever way you

3209
02:03:22,159 --> 02:03:23,840
do, um, I just wanted to flag that cuz

3210
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:25,440
that was definitely a point of

3211
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:28,080
conversation about jail costs and on

3212
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,480
those increases. Along with that though,

3213
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:32,719
we definitely did talk about budgets and

3214
02:03:32,719 --> 02:03:35,199
how everyone's doing. um all the cities

3215
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:37,280
around and the one highlight I wanted to

3216
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,679
flag there was many things is I got to

3217
02:03:39,679 --> 02:03:43,199
flag that we have a very strong um

3218
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:46,800
financial city staff um obviously we

3219
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:48,960
have an amazing Arina and then we have

3220
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:50,880
our deputy city manager and we also have

3221
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:52,400
our city manager that are really focused

3222
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:53,840
on it because a lot of the conversation

3223
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:55,679
that you know it's a it's a little bit

3224
02:03:55,679 --> 02:03:57,520
of like why are we in this kind of place

3225
02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:59,360
or where we are there's a lot of changes

3226
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,679
in in different um cities there

3227
02:04:01,679 --> 02:04:03,679
financial directors or not having people

3228
02:04:03,679 --> 02:04:05,280
are leaving or coming back or things

3229
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:06,800
weren't, you know, getting together.

3230
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,800
It's it's, you know, uh, one of the

3231
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:11,440
cities like everyone's gone from their

3232
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:12,800
financial team, so they're all getting

3233
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:14,960
new people who are, you know, maybe the

3234
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:17,280
only ones left are more junior than, um,

3235
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,280
executive level. And so I I flag that we

3236
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,760
have as we're having these hard

3237
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:24,480
conversations about budget and financial

3238
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:27,199
uh, viability um, of the city and moving

3239
02:04:27,199 --> 02:04:31,440
forward, we are um, really well um, um,

3240
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:33,280
directed by our staff. So, I did want to

3241
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,679
say that because I, you know, I did flag

3242
02:04:35,679 --> 02:04:37,679
like, oh, we have a really good staff

3243
02:04:37,679 --> 02:04:39,520
and I felt good about being able to

3244
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,280
share that. Um, and the third thing I

3245
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:42,480
did want to flag, I don't know if you

3246
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,560
guys will end up hearing um from, but I

3247
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:47,599
did uh speak to um uh a city resident uh

3248
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:49,360
today who wanted to talk about the Penny

3249
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,920
Creek Natural Area again and was um

3250
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,080
voicing their frustration that they hope

3251
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:55,920
that this doesn't um we actually used

3252
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:58,800
DRCC as um

3253
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,119
a point of comparison in terms of like

3254
02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:02,960
that it just never gets anywhere because

3255
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,560
it seems like well we haven't so we

3256
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:06,560
don't need to do anything with it. we

3257
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,400
already have like we already have it and

3258
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,159
said it's like let's get this done.

3259
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:13,920
Let's make this um um ownership happen.

3260
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:15,760
Just flagging for all of you. Thank you

3261
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:17,520
very much.

3262
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:21,830
>> Um Council Member Stler,

3263
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,199
» I think everybody's heard enough from me

3264
02:05:23,199 --> 02:05:25,381
today. I have no report. Mayor,

3265
02:05:25,381 --> 02:05:27,750
[laughter]

3266
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,599
» Council Member Allison,

3267
02:05:29,599 --> 02:05:31,910
>> thank you. Um just a huge thanks for

3268
02:05:31,910 --> 02:05:31,920
» thank you. Um just a huge thanks for

3269
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,560
cancing and then rescheduling the the

3270
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:38,400
night out activity. Um that smoke that

3271
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:40,239
night was horrible. So thank you for

3272
02:05:40,239 --> 02:05:43,280
doing that. No more reports.

3273
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:44,470
>> Council member Paddock.

3274
02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:44,480
» Council member Paddock.

3275
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:45,990
>> No report.

3276
02:05:45,990 --> 02:05:46,000
» No report.

3277
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,270
>> Council member Mobeski.

3278
02:05:47,270 --> 02:05:47,280
» Council member Mobeski.

3279
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:48,310
>> No report.

3280
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:48,320
» No report.

3281
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:53,430
>> Wow. All right. With that we will move

3282
02:05:53,430 --> 02:05:53,440
» Wow. All right. With that we will move

3283
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:56,880
on down to audience communication. So is

3284
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:58,000
there anyone in the audience that would

3285
02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,920
like to speak? No report from the

3286
02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:02,080
audience either, huh? All right. Is

3287
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:03,760
there anyone online that would like to

3288
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:06,320
speak this evening? All right. There is

3289
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:09,760
no executive session. So with that, the

3290
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:12,880
meeting will be adjourned at 8:05 p.m.

3291
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:16,400
Have a good evening, everyone.