[0:01] Have you seen
>> Do you have any comments?
[0:05] » What's that?
[0:09] » So is
it was developed through quite a bit of
[0:13] discussion?
>> Okay. Are you develop
[0:21] I think some of your staff needs to
I
[0:27] make a comment
the company not the county is
[0:31] responsible for
improvements and repairs.
[0:43] This is the one that's on the block.
There are 10 different
[0:52] » trans west.
It's a trans
[1:11] I
don't see a lot of responsibility that
[1:16] we wouldn't norally with them with
me responsible for getting engineer the
[1:26] thing that needed to be changed and they
had to pay for the improvements. It's I
[1:32] think I think our department heads need
to look at it. Yeah, folks involved
[1:37] because they'll give us some more heads
up than what we want. So
[1:41] » yeah, I agree and so we haven't done
that previously. So that for a minute
[1:46] » maybe right now we go on to the next
item or I'll just go to the next item.
[1:51] » Okay, I'll move to go to the next item
on the agenda. 10:30.
[1:56] Uh we're starting 10:25
10:40
[2:00] discussion possible approval letter of
support for Kash Band Indians community
[2:05] development block grant application.
Um,
[2:10] so I had a phone call the other day. The
uh Kamosh banded tribunal, the travel
[2:19] plaza down there by Co for um they're
looking for a grant. They want to expand
[2:24] that that gas station, that service
center on the west side, I believe, of
[2:28] the freeway. Um, just from
talking to him, it sounds like they want
[2:34] to make it more of a truck type stop and
add full service showers, B more
[2:39] bathrooms,
um, RV an RV spot. Um, I I I think it's
[2:46] just to expand it into more of a full on
truck stop than than anything. So,
[2:51] they're looking for a grant to
uh
[2:57] to help with that. And so they they
drafted a letter for us to sign um
[3:04] to help them in that grant process.
[3:09] So we are
[3:13] trying
um they don't have a representative
[3:18] here.
>> No, they don't have a representative
[3:20] here.
>> Okay.
[3:21] » So it's just
>> Yeah, I don't see any problem with that.
[3:26] I don't know if you want if you want to
look through that letter real quick.
[3:29] That's gives you a better idea. But
[3:52] where's the letter at? Um,
you get the No, I think I just sent it
[3:58] to
you.
[4:12] » John, if it's approved at Marquee, I
don't know if you could get our
[4:15] signatures on it and send it back to
that.
[4:17] » Yeah, I'll put it on letter head and
then this down.
[4:20] » Yeah, if you could if it's
>> Here's the letter.
[4:22] » Want to review a little bit? Yeah,
as a mom.
[4:27] » Yeah, it is.
[4:33] » Well, the the only thing I ask, they're
allowed on reservations to do some
[4:38] things that's really not I wouldn't say
inconsistent with state law. Is that
[4:43] what they're proposing?
>> They're not doing fireworks or
[4:47] maybe just bathrooms, showers.
>> Okay, I'm good.
[4:53] added added fuel service station for I
think like semis.
[4:57] » Yeah.
>> So So where's that at? At on the It's on
[5:01] that exit. It's on the south exit. I see
there's a little
[5:05] » No, it's on the north exit,
but it's on the west side of the
[5:09] freeway. That's the single gas station.
>> It's on the north of that middle there.
[5:13] No,
>> no, it's I4.
[5:18] Okay.
>> Yeah. West that new gas is that newer
[5:22] gas station on the west side of the
road. Okay. Freeway.
[5:25] » Are they ask businesses for them because
they're part of the reservation?
[5:32] » H
>> I looked into a lot of things on that
[5:34] because there's a you might need to look
into a few things because there's a I've
[5:39] gotten flagged on a few things from the
state tax commission people saying I
[5:43] need to look into that. But is that my
tax realm?
[5:49] cuz I I don't know if it's not on the
reservation.
[5:54] » So I would I would say they need it. Now
if it was on the reservation I I doubt
[5:59] we would have that any jurisdiction to
do that. But since do they have to go I
[6:05] mean the properties have to go through
planning and zoning and conditional use
[6:11] permit.
They got
[6:16] um they might have to go through that.
They're just trying to get the grant
[6:19] right now.
>> Oh, they're working for a grant. Okay.
[6:21] » Yeah, they're working on they're not
they haven't started anything.
[6:23] » They haven't started anything.
>> No, they're just they're trying to get
[6:25] this grant.
>> They're exploring it. They want some
[6:28] support.
>> Yeah. So, they apply for a grant.
[6:31] » They not do any of it. They haven't done
any of the permitting stuff.
[6:34] » I'm I'm good at them exploring it. Then
we can make all those decisions.
[6:38] » So, is that a motion?
>> Yeah. I will move that we give them the
[6:42] letter to explore some development over
there to support the grant.
[6:47] » Yeah.
>> Okay. I'll second it. All
[6:50] » favor.
[6:54] Yeah.
>> No, that works. Yeah.
[6:59] Okay.
10:30 public hearing for the purpose of
[7:04] receiving public comment on the C2
conditions permit application Z 2025 444
[7:10] solar energy system on property located
approximately V8
[7:17] miles west of Clear Lake near Pop
Mountain Road and State Highway 257
[7:23] Neptune Solar Energy Park LLC is the
applicant.
[7:30] You're going to need that to proceed.
And somebody is somebody here from the
[7:37] Okay. You can get up and explain it
then. Yeah. For public comment.
[7:44] Sorry. Can I get a motion?
>> I make a motion to go to a public
[7:47] hearing. Are you sure?
All in favor?
[7:51] » I just want to state your name with
Yeah. My name is Robert Wilson. I'm
[7:56] senior development manager with
Renewables. We are a kind of sister
[8:01] company for the entity Q cells a
domestic solar panel manufacturer and
[8:07] EPC contractor.
Okay. Um you want to just explain about
[8:13] the project that we're uh solar energy
park is a 199 megawatt uh for voltaic
[8:20] solar energy facility. Um we haven't
executed interconnection agreement with
[8:25] Pacific or Rocky Mountain Power. Um it's
cited on BLM lands. We're just about to
[8:33] enter in the neoscoping period for an
environmental assessment and we've
[8:37] completed the variance process under
which we did all of our habitat surveys
[8:43] um wetland delineations
um biological studies and all that uh to
[8:48] research the site. Um the project would
provide power to roughly 40,000 uh Utah
[8:55] homes um and would tap into the Black
Rock substation right there uh just
[9:01] north or northeast of uh Pot Mountain.
[9:09] » How many acres do you plan on covering
with these solar panels?
[9:12] » Roughly 1,000 acres. I think it's 1,32
on the side just north of it.
[9:20] Did you say you manufacture these?
>> Yep. We've got two facilities in Georgia
[9:26] that manufacture solar panels um in the
United States. Um they're a sister
[9:32] company called QELS uh owned by Hanwa
Group and uh we are the developers for
[9:38] the utility scale solar energy projects.
Okay.
[9:41] » I guess I should let the public go
first.
[9:44] » Yeah. Sorry. That's all right. I don't
know if there's any public here. So,
[9:49] uh, any public comment?
Okay. If not, I'll entertain a motion to
[9:54] leave.
>> I'll make a motion close public hearing.
[9:58] I say,
>> all in favor?
[9:59] » I I Okay. Uh discussion and possible
approval of C2 conditional use permit Z
[10:06] 202545
for a solar energy system
[10:12] uh on property located 8 mi west of
Clear Lake near Pop Mountain Road and
[10:16] State Highway 257 Neptune Solar Park LLC
applicant
[10:22] commissioner. Now you can
>> I'm assuming you have approximately
[10:27] 10,32 acres. This is coming,32.
What?
[10:31] » 1,032.
>> Yeah, they will be leased from the BLM.
[10:35] » Okay. Is this
um just on the west side of 257 or just
[10:41] on the east side of 257?
>> West. Just on just on the west side
[10:45] there.
>> You know where Sunstone is? No.
[10:47] » Like if you looked across. I mean, it's
so far as to say they throw a stone, but
[10:50] » there's kind of those DS like those
trains. There's some type of little
[10:55] converter station or there's a bunch of
lines. Not a bunch of lines.
[10:58] » Yeah.
>> It's about a mile and a half west off of
[11:02] the highway. Okay.
So question
[11:08] to get the lease agreement with BLM.
>> So a record of decision is what the BLM
[11:15] will issue after we finish the roughly
12 month environmental assessment. Okay.
[11:21] » Uh NEPA scoping. The next question.
So we're down over reversal.
[11:28] » Yeah. Um
we submitted our application to the BLM
[11:34] about 2 years ago. Um we've completed
the variance process in which we meet
[11:40] with the BLM on a regular basis. We
still have monthly meetings with them.
[11:44] Um right now we're just waiting for the
Department of Interior's approval to
[11:51] enter the NEPA scoping period. And under
current rules that can take no longer
[11:57] than 12 months.
>> So you're agreeing with Rocky Mountain
[12:01] Power,
>> the interconnection agreement, right?
[12:03] From Utah Power.
>> Yeah.
[12:05] » Okay. So how do you get it from there
back to the Russia? Just real quickly.
[12:10] » From there back to where?
>> Yeah. Where do you work on back to front
[12:14] power you produce?
>> So it taps into the Black Rock
[12:17] substation.
>> Black Rock.
[12:18] » Yeah. and and then it goes into Pacific
Corpse interconnection system.
[12:23] » Okay.
>> Um similar, you know, it's kind of like
[12:27] dropping a cup of water into a bucket of
water. It just once those kilowatts
[12:32] enter into their interconnection system,
it goes to wherever it's needed. And so
[12:36] it will be um powering Utah homes um
close to California. No, I mean it's um
[12:47] so in in Utah it's a regulated market
and so um the power company or Rocky
[12:54] Mountain Power, Pacific Corp, they're
the only people that can sell power to
[12:57] rate payers. Uh so it's likely that our
power purchase agreement would be with
[13:02] Pacific Corp or Rocky Mountain Power. Um
there are also mechanisms called what we
[13:08] call a green sleeve where you might have
a commercial or industrial customer for
[13:14] example Meta or Microsoft um where they
would essentially be purchasing
[13:20] renewable energy credits from our
project um to essentially offset the
[13:26] power that they consume. But the power
generated from our project would follow
[13:31] the path of least resistance in Pacific
Corp system.
[13:35] » Okay. Sorry. Was that
[13:45] ahead?
>> Yeah.
[13:50] Either Rock Mountain Power or um you
know we we an RFP from a group called
[13:56] Utah Renewable Communities. um they're
kind of a a cooperative in both the
[14:01] Wasatch front and was back and elsewhere
in Utah that kind of come together and
[14:06] then purchase renewable energy. Well, I
know that it matters to this, but
[14:12] there's there's a movement now in the
legislature that obviously Utah's been
[14:18] producer for a lot of other people that
the priority of Utah production should
[14:24] stay in Utah unless there's no place for
it. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I I just
[14:28] attended Mike Lee's um conservative
climate summit and you know, the the
[14:34] broad message that I think is being
pushed in Utah is is an all of the above
[14:39] energy strategy where they're trying to
procure as much as they can, especially
[14:42] with a lot of the new data center demand
and load growth that we're seeing in the
[14:46] west.
>> Open to all kinds of producers,
[14:49] » right? There isn't one that's
prohibited. So, thank you.
[14:53] » Yeah. Just so was your group, the group
I saw down there last spring, white
[14:58] trucks running around. Um, it could have
been. We uh, you know, we have had a lot
[15:03] of surveyors out there, uh, doing
environmental studies, um, habitat
[15:08] assessments. We've also done things like
alta surveys uh, to get property
[15:13] boundaries and that sort of thing. Um,
last September I was with uh the BLM and
[15:20] representatives from the Pyute Indian
tribe doing a cultural resource uh site
[15:24] visit. So we, you know, walked around
Pop Mountain and around the site uh
[15:29] taking pictures and and kind of looking
at some of the some of the areas to see
[15:35] whether they had any cultural
significance to the Pyote Indian tribe.
[15:40] Does
>> it
[15:42] charge you a lease? Yep.
>> Okay. Sim to seller or something.
[15:47] » It would be it's actually what they call
a right of way. Um but
[15:51] » you pay a lease agreement. You pay
actual done.
[15:54] » Yeah.
>> You wouldn't tell us what that was,
[15:56] would you?
>> Um we've we've got like a rough idea
[16:00] kind of a rent calculator. But it
changes every year based on, you know,
[16:04] property values. And then
every four years it seems like the
[16:09] Department of the Interior has a
different way of assessing what what
[16:12] rent they want to
>> change. Yeah. But
[16:15] » yeah, but we we have to have kind of a
placeholder in our model of what we
[16:18] expect to be paying as operational
expenses.
[16:22] » All right. Thank you very much.
>> Maybe just as a quick point of of
[16:25] clarification or or just uh
there are the difference between the two
[16:31] applications. They're very similar. One
is the the generation itself, the solar
[16:36] installation. The other is the
transmission right away. So we treat
[16:39] those as two separate uses, two separate
permits. same project. I probably should
[16:44] have mentioned that at the beginning.
So,
[16:46] » two items. Yeah, we got an item number.
Skip it for now. Open a public hearing
[16:50] again for that one. So, but I'll
entertain a motion to
[16:57] a number of proposed conditions on this
and we've gone back and forth. The
[17:01] planning commission discussed it.
There's this isn't the first solar
[17:06] project we've seen. on about those and
with other projects at this point, but
[17:10] there's uh there's actually quite a a
quick list of them. Um
[17:16] there's uh everything from public safety
and emergency response coordination,
[17:21] road management agreements, site
security plan, fire prevention program,
[17:24] facility reclamation, and I know there
was a little bit of question on on that.
[17:28] » Yeah, I mean our only like we've
reviewed the conditions and we're
[17:31] comfortable with them. They're pretty
standard that we've seen on all of our
[17:34] projects. Um, our only consideration
that we might want to bring up is the
[17:39] BLM does require us to place a
decommissioning and remediation bond.
[17:45] Um, so there will be one in place
already. Uh, so you know you guys
[17:52] » that's the question I would have to
reclaim the bond. We we have to assure
[17:58] reclamation and I believe the question
is whether or not that that we just have
[18:03] that they shall post a bond guaranteeing
the reclamation and all of the
[18:05] improvements and I believe the question
that we will we accept that accept that
[18:14] we defer that um to the attorney's
office to see if that's just references
[18:18] there shall be one.
>> Okay. Go ahead. I was just going to say
[18:22] we