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Employee pension, important set of plans. So there's an item on the agenda this evening to approve membership in Colorado retirement association.

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What this is is we've been looking for quite a while now, about a year and a half, for a different pension administrator.

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We've been with AIG Valid. It's now corporate financial since about 2006.

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We're looking for something that I guess may be better for us as a service,

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as well as more options for our employees, as well as cheaper fees.

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Colorado Tire and Association checked all the boxes.

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And so, we'd like to move forward with changing our current pension points.

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Pensions plan administrative from corporate front to CRA or other part of the system.

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CRA has been in business since 1968.

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They have 235 member organizations.

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They have about 35,000 individual people with money in their pension points.

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and everyone who talked to them, they're very pleased with Colorado Retirement Association.

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And so that's kind of just a background on what this is.

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There's no cost to the town. There's no cost to the member, municipalities, counties, special services.

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No cost. All the cost is on the retiree employee accounts.

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similar to what it's like with AIG, but the fees are substantially less for our police.

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So that's where we would like to go.

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I think we need a little background on that and answer questions before I throw it all out.

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get the term meaning. So it's better for you and the cost for us. Yes sir. And how many

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did you say and how many were the employees? Yeah. I mean they're based right here, they're

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based right here in Lakewood. They'll, they will meet with employees. The one thing for

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me personally that's missing is our current. I have control over my money. I have talked

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often are at and then he puts it where I want to put it in this way, I as well as any other employee that wants to,

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will have the ability to go in and manage their own funds.

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Within reason, we give them a certain number of funds or types of funds that they can invest,

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but then they can do what they want with those funds.

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It gives you the employees a little bit more power.

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If they want, you know, the CR would be there if you need to make a phone call or send an e-mail.

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They'll be there, and it's even better because they're right here.

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So they have like groups which are the aggressive, the more safe, the bombs.

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Well, they're rather than making up a meet with you guys.

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I'm sorry.

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Well, they've said it.

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Yes.

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They're going to send it in.

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Yeah.

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They're going to send it in.

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People are going to kind of get it all over the place.

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How the process is, is we need kind of politely said that they don't think that they're

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ever not a free one.

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But, yeah.

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Well, and I think that it is.

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Become Muslim right now.

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As long as you get everything lined up the way they like it, it'll be okay.

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But then after that, we'll schedule a time.

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They'll come out and we'll meet with employees.

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They'll meet with us as a group.

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And then they'll break up on individuals as they want.

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The advantage of it is our employees don't really have to do anything.

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They have to set up an account and then CRI will take them over.

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They'll work with the previous administrators because the money will go over.

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So there's a very, very little actual involvement from the staff until everything is set up

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and they can go in and do it.

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So will our employees have like online access to observe there?

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And then do they get regular statements?

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But you can think you can offer the option to have a set of ADSL.

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Do they offer the service where they do modeling so the employee can see in the future, kind of estimate what gap you may have when you retire at 55, 65?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And they're kind of a total picture organization

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because people, if they have an retirement from military,

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they might not have an retirement from a loved one, too.

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And so what CRA does is if you allow them to see all that,

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they'll bring it all in together and help you decide

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what you need to be.

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an example like, which was really kind of funny, so our current representative with corporate

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research called me about three, four months ago, and said, hey, now, because you're doing

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a list of retirement, I would suggest that you move your money to an IRA,

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and so we

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talked about it.

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So it's a little thing like that where we're going to get, we're going to keep, and actually

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the plan is very simple, both plans, the 401A as well as which is required, but we're

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But they're actually very simple plans, but we now like, yeah, you can roll this stuff over to the appropriate RRAs and that type of stuff.

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And we've lined all that out.

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gives you some options to potentially, you know,

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use it as a contract position to potentially, you know,

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contribute more than the standard claim now to retire,

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to a total of 1A, you know, those types of things.

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It gives us a little more latitude to work within the rules

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His, you know, it's all federal government law, but they just don't help us get there better.

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Any, I've got a couple of questions.

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One is, have the employees, you talked with the employees about it?

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Not at this point.

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We want to get to the point where we are sure it's going to happen before we talk with them.

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But yeah, that's all on this, so I mean, yeah, yeah.

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OK, I think I'm going to like those things because the document was something new.

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What was going on ahead?

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Well, we talked about it within our staff meeting with our department directors

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and I'm sure some of that information got, you know, sent out.

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Mostly employees, I mean, as long as there's a respective account in the place,

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you know, they're happy.

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But we need to know more and we need to make sure that the board would be, you know,

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and says the way to them saying this is what we're going to do and then find out no or not.

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Yeah, so I see what you're saying.

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Yeah, I don't know what you're saying but there are going to be any negatives associated

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You can transfer any fees or exempt fees back and forth.

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What we're going to do is, I won't say no.

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There is a possibility that what we'll do is,

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so say you have to be in a certain fund with AIG through September 30.

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We won't transfer that money out of AIG until we can avoid that debt.

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So, yeah, so we're already aware that there is that potential.

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There's, I believe there's a one fine line that has that.

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But we're just trying to figure out who's there's any investors in that.

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Yeah, yeah, so that, yeah, we're trying not, the goal we need not have any of that hurt.

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The other thing they can do is, with information from the account owner,

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You can transfer it to a student that they need to acknowledge, they're going to need to feed you and all that stuff, but if they want all of their money in one place at one time, that will be an option.

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As

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I explained with the employees, he's been, you know, I don't know, you know,

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away contact and trying to get him out here and, you know, the company has changed so many times.

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So this one, after speaking to a lot of local menace colleagues that used this one,

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we met at CML last year. This is where we found them.

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They're pleased, and that's a big part of it, because like me, I don't follow the stock

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market.

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I don't, you know, there's only 20 hours a day, knowledge available.

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So I need that guide, since I'm here, our guide, it's supposed to guide us, calls

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me, doesn't even understand our plan, and tells me to do something now, then I can't

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He would do another five hours, you know?

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So that's what we're trying to run

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by me with doing business.

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I think it'll be a much better service.

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Oh, I don't think it's a bad thing.

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I just had my, my perspective.

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Right.

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But we had to talk about it in our department director's

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meetings quite a bit.

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Because ever since we found him at CML last year.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah, so that's been his thing.

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Yeah, sounds like it's going to move our employees, so.

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Are we happy with that?

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couple of times that we've changed your videos.

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This, since I've been here, this is twice.

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Maybe three times.

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I think we were with nationwide financial when I started,

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and then it went to Nexus Financial,

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And then we went to ballot or AAG, whatever it was at the time, and nothing's changed since 2006.

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You'll have to do both, Brian.

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Brian Carey is saying you have to do both.

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This is new for me to be on Zoom with the back, so...

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Sure.

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Hopefully I can do it.

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Okay, sure.

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Too many parts.

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Thank you.

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Well, thank you.

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Very good.

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There's a couple of things we wanted to talk about one that Matt wants to talk about regarding impact fees.

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Well, give me a minute.

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We were also talking, just adding on to what we had on here since we don't have a millhouse here.

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But if you want to discuss some of that, you can.

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It seems like it won't be until January that the library moves out of that facility to the former middle school.

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So, and there's time, but my thoughts around it are releases is coming up, and it may have

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to be adjusted once again once that happens, and so

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currently they pay us $350 a month

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and that includes everything.

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everything.

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And I don't know what you're feeling is, is that needs to go up a bit.

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And they need to pay the utilities.

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Definitely pay the utilities.

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And so, you know, we kind of figured that out as well.

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I had asked Wade, and we had to actually go back and pull the utility bills for last year.

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you know I mean and just electric and gas alone last year we spent just short of

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$3,600 for the air and and in water utilities it was just short of $900 so

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So the rent hasn't even covered their utilities.

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Right now.

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No, but part of it is because of the library.

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Yeah, I was kind of worried about that.

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Right, and the library is an amenity for the residents

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here, which I'm worried to be at,

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because they were going to leave.

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So we kept them here.

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Now they're going to expand.

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So that's a big plus.

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But they don't use as much utility as mailbox users.

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No, but it's hard to...

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So, what I would recommend is...

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any two of these.

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We write in on such and such a day, the utilities will start being charged, and make that $0.7, I think the life line will be gone by $0.7.

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You have to put a percentage on that in the total.

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Oh, because yeah, I don't think that.

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Yeah, so we're going to get started with all the utilities, we can estimate how much, and then how much the rent will increase.

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Because, I'm sorry, isn't it, when it expires, I think it expires early?

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Um, and in May.

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So, is it, does it go one to month?

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No, here, here you go.

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But there's no month to month without a renewal in the lease?

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No, we don't have.

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I don't believe there's a month a month in here.

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It's a license agreement is what is called.

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I think the terminating on those is what it is.

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But I'm just saying, we can't just leave that lease

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in place until the library is out and then do a new one.

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But I think it would be easy enough to do, OK,

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We're just going to go down here and then upon the date that the...

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Can we do a portion of the utilities?

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Does it fill the library room some?

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It's hard to know what that exact portion is.

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Even if you just split it down a little.

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We'll do 50% of it.

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One of the things is though, is there's no commissary agreement.

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There are a lot to use in the kitchen.

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But along with that, they're getting the trash services, the use of the dishwasher, the oven, and those things.

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So that's why I would not like to at least run.

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And then it needs to be one minute.

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Yeah, because it has to, we have to start considering the cover of their work with the trash that they use.

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So the tax payers should not be paying for a business to run?

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No, they shouldn't be subsidizing.

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The reason why we did it in the first place was just to get something active in there to increase the people coming into the library.

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So that's worthwhile for the last three years or whatever it's been.

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but it should still layer that it's obviously a successful business.

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What's the commercial square footage rate in the town?

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That's what I was going to ask.

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I don't know how that is.

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I was going to check with them.

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Yeah, if you could check out the different events.

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I know what I paid, and I know what I paid across the street.

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So when we rented where Colic and Joseph's, we paid $6,500 a month and now we left in 2015, so 10 years ago, $6,600 a month.

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I don't remember what the square footage was.

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Because you've got the square footage up and down.

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Yeah, I pay $5,500 for my little tiny space where I'm at right now.

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And then in Trader's Junction, there are like, like, re-gallicisms.

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Yeah, but that's secret in the Metro District too, except on that.

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No? Trader's Junction?

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Yeah.

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They were there before the Metro District came in?

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No.

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They're part of the Metro District.

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They carry...

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When?

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When is it all over?

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Yeah, but I'm not in the Metro District.

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00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:44,800
No, you're not there.

235
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,140
No.

236
00:18:45,460 --> 00:18:46,280
Oh, I'm not.

237
00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:47,060
In my house as well.

238
00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:58,860
It doesn't have anything to do with the type of house bill. It has to do with the way

239
00:18:58,860 --> 00:19:01,140
they need the district or something.

240
00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:06,420
No.

241
00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:09,380
No.

242
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:09,620
No.

243
00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:11,880
What does that mean for the residents of town?

244
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,040
Well, the biggest thing I see is not only is the space,

245
00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:18,260
they're all the additional uses of the kitchen equipment.

246
00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:21,680
And obviously, that equipment is there.

247
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,320
They're other illnesses, but the increase used

248
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,600
is going to cause the town to need to buy a new place

249
00:19:29,140 --> 00:19:30,800
to be able to replace it.

250
00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:33,740
And it's not really going to, you know,

251
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,200
we just need to be in a position

252
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,180
to replace that equipment with it.

253
00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:46,760
We don't need to make money out of the house, but we need to make sure that things are being paid for.

254
00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:54,700
I think the 25% of the electric bill and then the gas and water would be reasonable at this point

255
00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:59,140
because there's four refrigerators or free refrigerators.

256
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,580
There's one refrigerator upstairs in the kitchen up here.

257
00:20:03,580 --> 00:20:05,860
There's like, we're freezers downstairs for the record.

258
00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,820
At LL, says the library.

259
00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,080
At LL, it's in the basement, yeah.

260
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,980
So I wanted to go to my personal library.

261
00:20:12,620 --> 00:20:14,980
Well, we can't gauge how much the library.

262
00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,820
But since the library has refrigerators and refrigerators,

263
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,220
I'm sorry, what does the library have refrigerators and refrigerators?

264
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,060
I don't know.

265
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,420
Pretty low, old-fashioned.

266
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:24,620
Yeah.

267
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,460
It's the same.

268
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,400
It's the same.

269
00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:26,860
It's the same.

270
00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:27,080
It's the same.

271
00:20:28,780 --> 00:20:33,040
And so, 50% of LL, I would say, if we went on 52%.

272
00:20:33,820 --> 00:20:38,280
I think that's fair. If I were a businessman, I'd weigh that.

273
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,780
75 percent.

274
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,320
We're going to get to 100 percent.

275
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,940
On top of that, they're using the town hall resources as well.

276
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:55,840
It's not just liable, so 50, and I think that's more than reasonable.

277
00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:59,680
I mean, I didn't even see the fans.

278
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:12,880
I would say that if you don't know the word about a business owner, it's a business,

279
00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:18,060
they have three years to build a business.

280
00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:24,140
And so if they can't afford to pay to be a business then they shouldn't be a business.

281
00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:52,780
The building itself, you know, it's town halls, you know, we're not paying a mortgage on

282
00:22:22,780 --> 00:22:24,980
I would say it's 4,000.

283
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,460
I would say it's 255,000.

284
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:28,880
Wait, wait.

285
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,420
300, they're going to be 3.3 million.

286
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,040
Hey, they're going to be 3,000.

287
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,040
This is 3,000.

288
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,780
Okay, so this is the average.

289
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,120
The month-long average for utilities.

290
00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:40,600
So we would start our charge.

291
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,180
$350 per month.

292
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,980
So currently right now, with that,

293
00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:46,580
we're just covering utilities.

294
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,300
Right, right.

295
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,800
Right, right.

296
00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:49,620
That's what I'm saying.

297
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:50,440
Yeah, that's that.

298
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,160
will be taken in the water on top of it.

299
00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:54,380
No, I have it.

300
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:56,460
I have it for the water on the first floor.

301
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:56,920
Okay.

302
00:22:57,620 --> 00:22:59,080
Did they go go right there?

303
00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,600
No.

304
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,200
Water comes from the building.

305
00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:09,740
So, yeah, I think it's easy to start the territory.

306
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,880
15% with the new lease.

307
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,900
And then come October, go 75, and then January, 100%.

308
00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:26,620
A step down? I think a step down is more because didn't they can start changing and just be re-evaluating?

309
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,680
I don't know if January is the time to enter.

310
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,800
It's into final step down.

311
00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:35,600
Because I think it shouldn't be about movement.

312
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,120
High value.

313
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,380
So a lot of people would be high value, right? January, right?

314
00:23:42,660 --> 00:23:43,040
Yeah, yeah.

315
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,860
But it's also high value.

316
00:23:45,060 --> 00:23:46,480
I mean there's nothing here in here in the county.

317
00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:48,820
So if people are down as much.

318
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:51,900
Yeah, the whole thing is though.

319
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,180
They do a lot of catering.

320
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,100
Yeah, they do a lot of catering.

321
00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:58,120
Yeah, but you see the catering.

322
00:23:58,460 --> 00:24:00,040
Yeah, she is.

323
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,080
So that's a lot.

324
00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:04,340
That's a lot.

325
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:08,740
So when we looked behind Pelican Joe's,

326
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,860
we were looking for church off the space,

327
00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:14,360
and it's 1376 square feet

328
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,880
at $10 per square foot.

329
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,600
but it's what they're going to see support.

330
00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:22,720
So $10 per square foot, and that was in 2021.

331
00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:24,280
How many squares was left?

332
00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:26,940
It's small.

333
00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:27,740
What is that?

334
00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:28,340
Turn number?

335
00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:31,300
I think the total square foot is 1243 for that one,

336
00:24:31,460 --> 00:24:32,060
that's the upper and the lower.

337
00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:33,380
Up and down, down, down.

338
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,300
We didn't measure out anything there.

339
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,740
Not the whites, I think, all I am.

340
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,440
Yeah, yeah.

341
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,060
So I think that percentage agencies in the rent

342
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,600
Let's start talking about utilities.

343
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:48,060
Do you think that's the only option?

344
00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:49,100
I think that's the only option.

345
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:50,580
You think it's the only one?

346
00:24:50,580 --> 00:24:50,880
No, no.

347
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:51,800
Six hundred square feet.

348
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,400
No, no.

349
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,620
Six hundred square feet.

350
00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:58,660
One hundred twenty-four square feet is for the Millicent events.

351
00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,980
And that's...

352
00:24:59,980 --> 00:25:00,440
Hold on a minute.

353
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,440
Am I going to go up there?

354
00:25:02,380 --> 00:25:02,860
Yeah.

355
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,000
Come on, Harry.

356
00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:07,160
Because my house is eleven hundred.

357
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:07,740
Yeah.

358
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,720
Each floor.

359
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:09,500
Oh.

360
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:14,660
And my first floor is way bigger than my third.

361
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,220
What happened to the floor?

362
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,160
How much?

363
00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:19,300
1,544 pounds.

364
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,000
Total top and bottom or just top?

365
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,460
No.

366
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,600
It doesn't have anything to do with it.

367
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:25,960
Oh, we have it.

368
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,460
We usually have an ASU assessment.

369
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,660
I don't know.

370
00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:30,180
I don't know.

371
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:33,890
That's great.

372
00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:35,350
You can figure it out now.

373
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:36,850
So the schoolhouse.

374
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:40,910
Yeah, the schoolhouse is approximately 50 by 22.

375
00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:43,650
And so that's 1100 square feet.

376
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:46,070
And that's smaller than the rest of the whole house.

377
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:48,830
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

378
00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:51,770
We paid 1300 for this.

379
00:25:52,790 --> 00:25:54,110
And we don't have the food.

380
00:25:54,550 --> 00:26:00,190
We don't have the basic access as a simple house that has a lot of storage stuff.

381
00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:01,090
Oh, really?

382
00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:02,170
But, but.

383
00:26:02,170 --> 00:26:04,010
I would have a hundred square feet of permit.

384
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:05,350
Not that much.

385
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:06,610
This is that one.

386
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:07,070
Right.

387
00:26:08,290 --> 00:26:08,530
Yeah.

388
00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:10,410
So we'll come up with something.

389
00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:13,590
That definitely needs to come up to market value.

390
00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:18,270
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that much business,

391
00:26:18,670 --> 00:26:20,290
but if they're good business people,

392
00:26:20,350 --> 00:26:21,250
then they'll make it work.

393
00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:23,570
And it's going to be very, very, very successful.

394
00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:25,490
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be very, very successful.

395
00:26:25,810 --> 00:26:27,610
I've been in business for a long, long time.

396
00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:31,670
I mean, let's put it honest, the last three to four years

397
00:26:31,670 --> 00:26:33,430
have done a pretty great job.

398
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:33,970
Oh, that's right.

399
00:26:34,550 --> 00:26:35,130
Pretty much.

400
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:35,510
Oh, yeah.

401
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:36,390
Never, never, never.

402
00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:39,130
Maybe 99% probably until this stuff.

403
00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:44,050
I mean, I think the town town board board can be used in this situation.

404
00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:44,890
Yeah, yeah.

405
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Anyway, anyway.

406
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:57,400
And then, um, oh, oh, just really quick, quick.

407
00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:58,500
So, um,

408
00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:04,000
the last thing we kind of spoke about that, that piece of property we own, you know?

409
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,980
And so I did reach out and I'm really good at it.

410
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,800
Anyway, I'll talk to my head.

411
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,360
I just didn't want to share it with you.

412
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:36,480
I reached out to Kaylee Redbundom,

413
00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:38,300
who was a guardian of that piece of property,

414
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,020
and she was telling me about another property

415
00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:43,580
that had sold, and I think it was in the settlers,

416
00:27:44,540 --> 00:27:49,560
not too long ago, for, I think it was $45,000

417
00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:51,600
for that piece of property,

418
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,300
but it wasn't nearly as desirable as this one.

419
00:27:55,460 --> 00:27:55,920
Here it is.

420
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,280
Yep, I'm remembering stuff, my goodness, yeah?

421
00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:10,140
The original list for 68 was at five Sunday morning stage coach, and it was a smaller

422
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:12,760
lot at 6,134.

423
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:20,820
This one is at 7,755, and it's a corner lot, and in some 10 to 12 hours.

424
00:28:21,820 --> 00:28:29,680
Her suggestion, and she owed her to doing some research on this lot, it can also be

425
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,120
I saw it after by buyers, I was advised a lot,

426
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,160
lot of people listed around 75,000,

427
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,960
I was going to count in the complete town,

428
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,180
but you get it sold, so she did say there was some,

429
00:28:47,470 --> 00:28:52,210
I think there was some listed out in Sunfield at 150,000,

430
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440
so and it's up to you.

431
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Are you going to go to Centennial Farm?

432
00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:00,940
No, no.

433
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:03,300
Yes, yes.

434
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:03,960
Oh, oh.

435
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Yes?

436
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,520
There is.

437
00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:07,400
Don't you own a house there?

438
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:07,780
Yeah.

439
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,240
So it's piecemeal, all three of them.

440
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Oh.

441
00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:14,580
So the only thing that's property is not my subdivision.

442
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:14,900
Okay.

443
00:29:15,140 --> 00:29:16,820
Is there a metro from that line?

444
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,360
Yeah.

445
00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:23,740
Because that would affect the price to me, because if there's no metro, that's awesome.

446
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,520
And I'm not saving the price.

447
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Yes.

448
00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:28,960
1398 south, I really carry it.

449
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,840
It's like you think so much.

450
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,660
changing the previous to do another project? Well, we were talking about the last meeting,

451
00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:41,800
you know, we talked about doing the Well County Road 44 from 21 to 19.

452
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,800
But because of all the construction work we have done on County Road 21,

453
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:58,180
that road is going to need to be redone. Just to put it back better, but I mean it's a total

454
00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:59,220
sample right now.

455
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:11,800
So I think that whole stretch from 19 down 44 and curve around to from on 21 all the way down to Inaz is going to have to be redone.

456
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:20,520
So something like this could go towards that. I mean, it's a drop in the bucket, but it certainly helps.

457
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:27,880
And it's something that the whole town uses instead of a lot that sits there that we maintain

458
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,900
That's really not bringing the town any value

459
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:41,160
You try to see and then there's some cost savings as well with because don't we

460
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Contract out like rating for all those different

461
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,400
Sure

462
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,640
Sure.

463
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:46,820
Yeah.

464
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,780
It would take a long time for that to make it.

465
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:54,580
Yeah, my teacher comes out on the weekends and grades the roads.

466
00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:58,040
So there will be cost savings there, yes.

467
00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:00,000
And that's fresh.

468
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,040
44.

469
00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:04,120
So there will be some there.

470
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,660
Oh, does he not need 21?

471
00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:10,020
21 was chipped already.

472
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,140
No.

473
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:19,240
You might do around the corner, down to Wildcat, and then from Wildcat down to Forty-Civics.

474
00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:21,100
I

475
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:33,080
think it would provide better surfacing for these areas, you know, enhance them a little bit.

476
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,260
Instead of less than a piece of property.

477
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Well, there's a number of projects I could use, some of them.

478
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,540
Yeah.

479
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:50,580
Spend a will.

480
00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:51,200
Sure.

481
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,340
That's what Mike had brought up last week.

482
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Yeah, sure.

483
00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:01,980
That's...

484
00:32:01,980 --> 00:32:03,280
I guess it was next steps.

485
00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:09,260
You can get hold of a real estate agent, and it lists the same thing as you.

486
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:09,980
Yeah.

487
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,340
Oh, oops.

488
00:32:12,340 --> 00:32:17,080
And there is no metro, she said, so I think that's a huge problem.

489
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,660
Probably need to figure out what's the price.

490
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,800
I guess we should come back back forward with that.

491
00:32:21,540 --> 00:32:22,140
I would.

492
00:32:22,420 --> 00:32:23,540
I would make that decision.

493
00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:25,040
You could leave me with that on the title, right?

494
00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:25,880
No, I don't know.

495
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,260
I mean, but he does.

496
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,020
Now we're going to figure out the metro.

497
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,140
Yeah, I'm just kidding.

498
00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:30,720
Yeah.

499
00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:36,390
But I just wanted to find out what everybody thought,

500
00:32:36,530 --> 00:32:38,550
and I wanted to have some number to give you,

501
00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:40,090
based on that for sure.

502
00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:48,340
What are you going to tell us about that?

503
00:32:48,340 --> 00:32:49,600
Okay, next topic.

504
00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:55,300
So I discovered this, I confess, about a week or two ago.

505
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,320
This is a bill that was passed through the legislature

506
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560
back in May of 2024, and to the economists.

507
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,760
What it does is it gives emergency services districts

508
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,780
the ability to directly impose impact fees,

509
00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:13,320
and also sales taxes.

510
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:24,120
We have an IGA with our local emergency services district, and it essentially says that we will impose that tax.

511
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:33,100
This bill took the power of a municipality to impose an impact fee for an emergency services district away.

512
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,480
So you can look at the bottoms of the first page on the top of the second page, and I hope I didn't lose the tape here.

513
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:45,900
It used to say, a local government may impose an impact fee or other similar development

514
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:52,560
charge to fund expenditure by, and then it goes and says, or a fire and emergency services

515
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,140
provider.

516
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,240
Well that's been deleted.

517
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,360
It used to have express authorization on the statute for municipality to impose, that's

518
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,180
an important word I think, an impact fee for the benefit of the local district.

519
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,500
It's gone.

520
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,100
They now have had power to do that themselves.

521
00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:12,740
And I have touched base with the lawyer

522
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,580
for front-run experiment rescue about this.

523
00:34:16,660 --> 00:34:19,120
I've also touched base with town attorney for Johnstown

524
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680
and everybody's kind of nonchalant about this

525
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,320
as long as all we do is collect it,

526
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:26,500
but it makes me nervous that strictly speaking,

527
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,640
I think the town is imposing this fee.

528
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,720
I think they need to impose it themselves

529
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,860
and there's a process for that.

530
00:34:32,860 --> 00:34:35,680
That involves giving us notice 60 days

531
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,460
any opportunity to go and tell them if we think it's a valid fee.

532
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:45,080
The other thing is if a fee is imposed by the district that isn't properly

533
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,180
substantiated, they are subject to a lawsuit by somebody who pays the impact fee.

534
00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:54,480
I don't want to put the town down in the middle of that.

535
00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:00,260
So I want to make you aware of this bill and the conversations that we're having,

536
00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:06,480
I'm sure I think you're probably going to have coffee with the other guys soon, Frank.

537
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,220
So I'm encouraging you to make me bring this up.

538
00:35:10,260 --> 00:35:14,540
But I think what we really want to do is we want to adjust our impact fee agreement

539
00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:16,820
so that it's simply a collection service.

540
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,620
If we even want to do that.

541
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,020
And I think we need to probably modify our code where it talks about the fee.

542
00:35:25,020 --> 00:35:29,100
In our nearest code, it doesn't say that we impose a fee.

543
00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:35,380
It says, accept the way we're referred, as otherwise permitted by law, by the IGA.

544
00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:42,720
All residential and non-residential development shall be subject to the payment of an emergency services impact fee

545
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,260
during the development or amendment application process.

546
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,100
Well, I think that that needs to be requirement of the impose.

547
00:35:48,660 --> 00:35:52,680
So I think there's some changes to our code that need to be made.

548
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,260
and we need to modify the IGA.

549
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,240
Most importantly, I think we need

550
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,600
to persuade our districts that once this fee,

551
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,400
therefore, we need to take action by resolution

552
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,260
and impose those fee and take that responsibility.

553
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,860
That's the discussion.

554
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Of course, the fact that they can impose sales taxes now

555
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,760
is a completely different thing.

556
00:36:11,260 --> 00:36:13,000
As long as they still have a sales tax factor,

557
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,920
but it's conceivable that at some point in time,

558
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,780
we could be in competition with them

559
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:19,800
for sales tax dollars.

560
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,920
So, I think it's in our interest to continue supporting their collection.

561
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,300
Our collection process is pretty simple right now.

562
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:32,920
I think pepper gets extracted and may be able to do the district and deliver it.

563
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,660
So it doesn't go through our accounts.

564
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,980
I don't think there's anything about the physical process that needs to change,

565
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,660
but I'd like to go down and take this to change.

566
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,420
That's the topic.

567
00:36:45,490 --> 00:36:52,190
But their district is obviously much larger than Fort Millicent, and so, like I clearly

568
00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:59,940
remember, voting is the only one we don't have, if they're literally to impose additional

569
00:36:59,940 --> 00:37:00,500
taxes.

570
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:01,300
Like sale taxes?

571
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:01,820
Yeah.

572
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:03,220
I haven't even done that.

573
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,620
I'm not aware that they're pursuing that.

574
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,140
Yeah.

575
00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:08,620
I'm just just...

576
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:08,860
Yeah.

577
00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:09,500
Yeah.

578
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:09,760
Yeah.

579
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,840
Yeah.

580
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:19,260
Yeah, but I get their annual report noise and then, you know, there's the cost of the equipment

581
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:29,440
and what it cost to outfit a fire fire was like $24,000 and, you know, they're just growing

582
00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:32,920
and I can see that happening.

583
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,840
You know, it was worrisome to me because when we were talking about it, you know,

584
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,140
was what, what, two, three years ago, whatever it was.

585
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,680
20, 20.

586
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040
We approved DMTAC fee and IGN for 2020.

587
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,300
But when we went to Bobo,

588
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,600
in regards to increased our sales tax,

589
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,140
because our sales tax is very low, very low,

590
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,060
and we couldn't get buy-in on it,

591
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,920
even though, you know, we tried saying

592
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,120
people passing through,

593
00:38:01,460 --> 00:38:04,240
people stopping at 7-Eleven, Dollar,

594
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:05,640
I'm only, you know, these are folks.

595
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:17,560
Well, yeah, and everybody goes to all these other places or money outside of town and pays their sales tax rate, we will pay our sales, we won't increase our sales tax.

596
00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:20,740
Then we end up trying to...

597
00:38:20,740 --> 00:38:22,800
Well, they end up trying to do this.

598
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,920
And sales tax is on money spent, not just on assets.

599
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,760
So that's the frustrating thing that people don't actually understand is, you know,

600
00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:37,660
it's on money you're choosing to spend rather than something you already know.

601
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,380
One thing that's helped us is because a lot of the Amazon deliveries were for sale.

602
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,960
That's a shopping mall of choice.

603
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,820
And a lot of people are having delivery at home and grocery delivery now.

604
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:52,960
All of that helps.

605
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:53,820
That helps.

606
00:38:53,820 --> 00:39:02,580
But again, if people realize that they're paying less sales tax because they're having to deliver to Milliken, I mean, you know, I mean...

607
00:39:02,580 --> 00:39:02,820
Yeah, yeah.

608
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040
I mean, that'll mean an economic program.

609
00:39:06,860 --> 00:39:08,080
Pay less is my opinion.

610
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:08,900
Yeah, yeah.

611
00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:11,040
Ship it to Milliken.

612
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:15,460
But, you know, it's a nice part of Yale to do.

613
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:17,400
My services have their stuff.

614
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,200
We have a lot of people passing through town.

615
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:26,620
you know, people that are kids that are at the rec center, you know, when they have

616
00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:32,260
sacrilegies and whatever, and mom and dad stops because it's our way to bring, you know,

617
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:38,180
mid-game snack or drink. Didn't have time to get it, so let's stop the job, though.

618
00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:40,100
In general, pick it up on our way there.

619
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:46,260
What was our last increase? Because I remember we, in, we opened the restaurant in 2012.

620
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,000
The sales tax is the same thing as it is now.

621
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,900
It has been a long time.

622
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,900
We've tried right a couple of times.

623
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480
The only thing you're successful in is keeping that tax,

624
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,740
send sales tax for the signal light.

625
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,440
What do you want to ask?

626
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:10,580
I want to go back to the impact of these taxes.

627
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:11,160
Yes, yes.

628
00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:14,060
I think we need to do it however,

629
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:21,000
I think that I would like to see larger communities perfect processes before we do it.

630
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,500
That's fine. What makes me nervous is there's no need.

631
00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:34,380
As far as I can tell, I didn't reach out to CML, the General Counsel, and Rachel Bender of the Art of Art, but this is my intention.

632
00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:43,680
And they said this was really, really surprised CML opposed us to, they tried to explain that you're taking away an express power that used to be there.

633
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:50,000
So, I mean, that's your judgment. It makes me nervous though that we are imposing.

634
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:58,380
I understand. I just, a lot of communities are going to be in this, and right now we're not doing a lot of building permits, are we?

635
00:40:58,620 --> 00:40:59,540
No, not a lot.

636
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,760
So I'm not real nervous about it because we're not, if we were doing lots and lots, I would be more concerned.

637
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:11,940
But I don't want to be beginning big to figure it out, is what I'm saying.

638
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:15,520
I'd like some other community to figure it out and we can copy it.

639
00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:20,020
I mean, I don't think it's terribly complicated and I think a lot of terms on two things.

640
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,600
How is another community's impact the agreement worded?

641
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,400
It might be worded differently than average, and also what does the code say?

642
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,060
I don't think this is terribly complicated, we just need to...

643
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:37,440
There's already a lot of municipalities that are not collecting those fees.

644
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,760
A lot of them are.

645
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Right.

646
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,920
Even Gilchrist has his own nerve books to collect.

647
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:50,640
I'm not sure how to find that information other than maybe putting something out on

648
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,620
in terms of this server.

649
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,940
But I don't see the change as being that challenging.

650
00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:59,960
We've already reached out to the attorney

651
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:03,760
and he's open to the idea of some pretty simple revisions.

652
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:06,300
I just haven't gotten him tuned in yet

653
00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:10,100
to the need for the district to actually pass a resolution.

654
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,340
I sent an email this morning and signaled that.

655
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:15,240
I mean, I'm personally just at a legal risk.

656
00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:17,880
I'm on the verge of saying, pepper, stop it,

657
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,740
because I don't want to expose the town.

658
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:26,520
Well, you would think that they would be okay with not having a middleman, right?

659
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,500
Because that's what we are right now.

660
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,500
I think the middleman part is fine.

661
00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:32,920
It's just that it's really good in a language.

662
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:40,160
And the nice part is that we know it's been paid for, you know, as far as part of the permanent process.

663
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:48,160
Now, there's another piece of this, and that is that the district approached us with a proposal for a higher impact fee,

664
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,400
I think towards the end of last year, okay?

665
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,520
And we haven't really taken any action on that.

666
00:42:53,860 --> 00:42:55,220
No, it is a war.

667
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:57,260
I don't think we did, I think.

668
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,060
So we may have it in the past,

669
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,440
but we haven't recently, like in 2024.

670
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:06,960
So they, one of the things that we lose here

671
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,140
is the war reviews the request

672
00:43:10,140 --> 00:43:13,420
and either a prisoner denies it or we lose that, okay?

673
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,600
We do have the right to notice

674
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,820
before they take action on approving a new one under the new statute.

675
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,740
But, uh, one of my concerns has been supervision

676
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:29,080
and to a degree we lose that. But that's the statute, so...

677
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,900
Now, if we collected it for in town,

678
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,640
I mean, I'm sure it's certainly there isn't as much built-in outside of town,

679
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,980
but how did they collect it for out of town?

680
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:09,050
I don't know how much of the expression that this is supposed to on hats isn't count.

681
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:11,890
Yeah, so I just, you know, I don't know.

682
00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:16,050
They may have one. I don't know. I'm just asking the...

683
00:44:16,830 --> 00:44:21,110
Yeah, because the county is into putting in subdivisions and all this and that.

684
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:25,790
I know that they have a similar arrangement with Johnstown, but some of them don't.

685
00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:32,070
I think that they do, I think they address the impact fees as a county because, particularly in schools,

686
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:45,250
The schools are going to let all those impacties slide by in school outside of municipalities, I don't think, and I think County has some of the vision.

687
00:44:45,490 --> 00:44:52,090
I'm just curious about non-municipal uses, i.e.

688
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:58,670
But the last couple of counties we've been to, they're really discouraged building in the county.

689
00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:59,830
They wanted me.

690
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,360
They want to know. They want to know, but they're still rural, but there are, still rural developments.

691
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:13,900
According to this, it does say that New York County fires and tax fees are collected by the local fire district.

692
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:27,340
So, this might be a way of streamlining it, so I was thinking, fire districts would just as soon recollect it, so they don't have to hassle with it.

693
00:45:27,340 --> 00:45:28,380
I suspect that it would be.

694
00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:31,440
But if the county requires that the public

695
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,360
it would just imply both to have them come and compare them

696
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,940
every week.

697
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,660
It's definitely interesting to know what they do

698
00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:41,060
because I like to do it on county.

699
00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:45,100
Of course.

700
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,280
And it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't

701
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,980
need to be based on each jurisdiction,

702
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:50,960
but it's for the most part, you don't have to do it.

703
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,260
They shouldn't have something in play like this.

704
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,120
They don't know what they're going to do.

705
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,840
At home.

706
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:04,600
So if anyone wants to look through this, the markups are mine, just notes that I made through

707
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:10,780
reading this whole bill. Most of the content, really, is in about our first three pages,

708
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,880
and there's some repetition, and they separate out ambulance districts, and then they get

709
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,760
it in sales taxes, and there's either four different provisions related to sales taxes.

710
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,860
So, feel free to take the 3-3-1-2s lead back.

711
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,940
The decision of what is the immediate concern is the impact of the imposition.

712
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:33,320
The impact of what it does is if we stop collecting it, what's the ownership of the builders?

713
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,980
Before they come by for a building in the first town, they have to provide us a receipt

714
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:43,080
that they can make fire in the school district to be used, and it makes them responsible

715
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,880
about the town.

716
00:46:44,060 --> 00:46:45,560
So that's kind of what I agree with that.

717
00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:46,360
Yeah.

718
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,820
I don't have a problem doing it, but going through it the first time, I know it's simple

719
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:59,700
but they're going to be glitched as it goes through the first time.

720
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:06,940
You know what I can do is ask Chief Sleep who's the CML general counsel and Rachel Bender,

721
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:09,060
if they know anybody that's already addressed.

722
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,460
That's all I'm looking for.

723
00:47:13,460 --> 00:47:18,040
If somebody else beat the train or blazer, we can jump in my room behind them.

724
00:47:21,340 --> 00:47:22,820
Like a hobo in a real life.

725
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,060
Just to be prepared.

726
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,400
A lot of times it could be different, you know.

727
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:28,640
Just because you're preparing.

728
00:47:39,380 --> 00:47:43,700
Is that all the words for today?

729
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:47,260
No, so I wanted to talk about one other thing.

730
00:47:48,260 --> 00:48:01,920
because we talked about the former mobile home park and using it as a food truck place.

731
00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:08,340
So back in, I don't know when it was, 2021,

732
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,820
the goal, maybe that was still meeting, did

733
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:23,760
I did suggest that and then some schematic was sent to Matt Arsenault with the state

734
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,720
that kind of receives what we can and can't be there.

735
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:32,160
He didn't have a problem with food truck place because it's all available.

736
00:48:33,580 --> 00:48:40,720
But what he did say here in the letter back was

737
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,420
Because you'd

738
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:50,560
ensure that there's no grading on this deep restricted land that would affect

739
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,960
flow, flood, water, or debris on the land.

740
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Mound or bridges would be against the deep restrictions on the restricted land.

741
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,720
Concrete or impervious surfaces must not be used or minimized.

742
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Whatever is on the land they want to minimize floaters, things that can be moved by water

743
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,840
and cause damage to surrounding homes and infrastructure.

744
00:49:15,740 --> 00:49:17,640
Any structures that are placed in the land

745
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,860
and the parks and cells cannot receive

746
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,720
future effect of funding in the case

747
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:25,060
of a declared disaster.

748
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,660
So the city would be on their own

749
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:31,720
for the cost of repair area and placement.

750
00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:38,260
You know, his thoughts, so they did his send

751
00:49:38,260 --> 00:49:40,040
And I think this went on.

752
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,900
There was three proposals, one was for kids by track.

753
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:48,620
The other one was for food truck.

754
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,780
And I'm trying to remember what would be a trail,

755
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,540
I think, was the other one.

756
00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:54,740
Yeah.

757
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,800
But since we're talking about food trucks

758
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,940
and then I was talking about a pepper,

759
00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:01,360
this came in light again.

760
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:05,520
So they kind of ascended this schematic of what

761
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,660
And they're kind of thinking.

762
00:50:11,570 --> 00:50:13,770
Thinking that our tests are permanent,

763
00:50:14,810 --> 00:50:16,250
probably should be used.

764
00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:16,990
Right.

765
00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:20,050
But maybe some temporary hay-pick tables or something.

766
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:22,490
Yeah, something you could do that.

767
00:50:22,850 --> 00:50:22,950
Yeah.

768
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:25,590
We're still teaching them how to do that.

769
00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:25,650
Yeah.

770
00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:27,850
I don't think that's political.

771
00:50:28,210 --> 00:50:29,590
I don't think that's political.

772
00:50:29,890 --> 00:50:31,250
Can we stick a poll in the ground?

773
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:32,550
Put it in the solution stuff?

774
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:33,730
Yeah, that's a great question.

775
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:38,510
They have a, not sure how they feel

776
00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:45,370
about that, because, you know, force water as we all realize from that happen, we could

777
00:50:45,370 --> 00:50:51,250
take those down. But, maybe we should take those down, so you have the right to feel

778
00:50:53,370 --> 00:50:59,630
no imperfect surfaces. So, you know what I'm saying? So,

779
00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:04,020
you're most really sure that

780
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:47,080
I think it's a good view to the space, but we need to look at, you know, think out of the box.

781
00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:53,020
It would be nice if the food trucks were obviously a thing. They're a thing everywhere at this point, not just here.

782
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,680
It would be nice to get them off of 660.

783
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,120
Yes.

784
00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:59,320
Well, we can't stop them from being on 660.

785
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:04,700
No, but if they have a place, that's a different place in my hand than if people are going to congregate.

786
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,540
Yeah, people are going to congregate.

787
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:13,500
If there's a table or a nicoce that I'd expect during the summer months, I feel like they'll know.

788
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,480
We really need an office, especially if people are going to run around the first door.

789
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,920
I'm waiting for someone to have an office.

790
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,040
Well, just so you guys can know, we're talking about how to truck.

791
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,460
There's another bill that takes away a lot of authority on how to truck.

792
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,660
You can't tell them where to park, the burners can't tell them when you're on your way, not that way.

793
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:43,960
Yeah, so the state, once again, is trying to...

794
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,060
Well, there has been a whole lot of pushback.

795
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,240
Has there? So we used to go to support.

796
00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:55,400
And we never had any issues, we never had any pushback out of the town.

797
00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:04,540
Well, we don't push back here, you know, so it's not like they're push-push-a-roo, it isn't going to affect our department.

798
00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:08,860
Well, we do have them specified by our fire department.

799
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,780
They're taking that away.

800
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,760
Oh, they're not going to have them specified.

801
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,480
So they do. They inspect everybody.

802
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:17,660
By any distance, they can call the fire department or the fire department.

803
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,820
You have to accept that.

804
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:20,400
Also, they can be accepted.

805
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,460
You have the access to health department protections.

806
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:25,360
Or maybe you're an artist.

807
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,240
Yeah.

808
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:27,580
Yeah.

809
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,500
So, you know, just continuing to take any local authority away from being into the state

810
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:34,800
of.

811
00:53:35,260 --> 00:53:36,240
Across the board.

812
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:36,980
Health.

813
00:53:39,140 --> 00:53:40,920
County health is because you're an inspection.

814
00:53:41,580 --> 00:53:42,080
Yes, yes.

815
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:42,460
Yeah.

816
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,980
So the county health department, your food inspections.

817
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:48,120
It was good for the whole state.

818
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:07,060
So as a resident or an ex, I like that you can't not, that you don't want to go to a

819
00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:07,320
multiple.

820
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:07,980
Right.

821
00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:10,560
And so I actually like that they're editing that.

822
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:17,380
They can't say no, you can't come here just because you're not certified here.

823
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:27,920
Yeah, yeah, like we had issues during the flood after we fed people at Rubber Buds. We went to Longmont, and so we had a mobile food license deal, but one of our other guys

824
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:42,340
did it, and he would give me food away, and he got fine. Boulder County tried to shut down, and so Dan, the big guy at Weld County, like stepped in for us.

825
00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:49,700
But so the county health departments, they're giving you that license.

826
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,800
That's a state-wide license.

827
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,580
It's not just meant for worry about a fire or anything.

828
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,220
Yeah, and I don't care about that.

829
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,120
I just don't like my state coming in.

830
00:55:04,220 --> 00:55:06,500
And once again, you know.

831
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,460
Step it in the post.

832
00:55:08,060 --> 00:55:10,220
Yeah, every local Minnesotaly should

833
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:11,440
to be able to

834
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,860
assess their own guidelines for each of these things.

835
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,280
What's the point of having that?

836
00:55:15,740 --> 00:55:18,040
What's the point of having a little talent government

837
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,600
make it a big part of the organization?

838
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:21,740
We have a lot of staff that are saying

839
00:55:21,740 --> 00:55:23,940
that what works in depth or doesn't work

840
00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:24,860
here at the moment.

841
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:27,180
I wonder if they think about that.

842
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,980
I think they're allowed to do

843
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:32,040
their own thing where the professor does

844
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,600
it right.

845
00:55:33,060 --> 00:55:35,620
So they need to stop and think about that.

846
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,720
I do agree with you guys.

847
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:52,000
Yeah, it's just another, you know, it's like ADUs and parking and, you know, how many people are in a house and what constitutes, yeah, you know, and it's like, so why are we here?