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right, I'll call this meeting of the

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board of selectment to order. It's 601.

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We'll start with the pledge of

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>> allegiance.

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Algiance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> well it seems that uh the person I was

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expecting isn't quite here. So

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>> Oh, I'd just like to take a quick moment

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to tell the people at home the reason I

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wasn't at the last two meetings is

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because I had a very sick family member

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and they needed medical intervention. So

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I apologize for that and uh I we will

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address some of the issues at those

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meetings another time. Thank you.

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>> And we are short Rachel and Joe. So

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bridge version but anyways

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uh you want to hop right into new

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business Peter what do you think

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>> right so

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>> do appointments

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>> you'll have appointments at your next

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meeting everybody remains in holdover

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status but what you do have in front of

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you are the recommended appointments for

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the police department if you want to

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deal with those this evening and their

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three and one-year terms of the

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individuals uh put forth by chief cooper

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would be comfortable making the

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>> Um, the only thing I'm curious on, you

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during the their last appointments, what

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kind of um

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different classes have they taken,

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certifications have they gotten? I I

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more. That would be great.

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meeting. And

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Chief Coup's um

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head and I think if there was anything

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that was a flag he would have addressed

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it or held their appointment. So

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>> So just for clarification too I think

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the fire is um because we have a strong

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chief these are already appointed.

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of a formality.

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>> Correct. So this this we can just kind

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of take a vote and and recommend or

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appoint. I mean we're not really

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appointing anybody. So

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>> You would be appointing the police.

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>> but you're not appointing the fire

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department.

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table by saying that one's kind of a

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>> I um we we can ask is certifications

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know there were some issues where

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certifications for all staff had or most

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of the staff even the chief had fallen

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out of compliance at one point in very

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recent history and um I just want to

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know that everybody is all set and just

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I know faith is a great thing but fact

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chief on these appointments?

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uh just that he's recommending these and

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it's the team that he's got and uh I

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mean the names I recognize on here are

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» So can I can I make a motion? Are you

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comfortable or do you want to hold?

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>> So if we hold it, it just goes into hold

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over status.

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>> For next meeting.

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>> Yeah. Agenda, are you comfortable?

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motion to appoint. Do we have to

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announce the names? How do you want to

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>> Patrolman Keith Lanigan, three-year term

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expiring 2029. Patrolman Mark Morris,

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three-year term expiring in 2029.

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term expiring 2027. Patrolman Edward

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expiring 2027. Patrolman Henry uh

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Politakis, one-year term expiring 2027.

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if any of those are misspoken. Looking

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for a second.

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would remove them from schedule until

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those things are cleared up. didn't

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happen in the past

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>> So, Peter, would you mind just circling

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back with the chief?

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these folks in the fire department or is

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this information you're comfortable?

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>> Just information.

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>> So, we're done with this.

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Consideration approval of the one day

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liquor license for Earth Ltd. So, we got

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to take a vote on this, didn't we?

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one-day liquor license for a separate

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date July 2nd. All the same materials

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have been updated. So, the one I signed

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this morning was the 11th,

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>> Okay. This is a second. Okay.

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went through the paperwork.

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>> Make a motion to approve the um one day

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liquor license for Earth LTV on July

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2nd, 2026.

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>> I'll give it to you. No,

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>> I'll take a vote. Kristen

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>> And uh I'm going to print because I have

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a doctor signature. I only play one on

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» Are you going to table approvals or do

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is your your July 13th meeting if there

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>> So there's none at this time.

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BOS policies and procedures.

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policy just so you're not doing all of

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from D. Um, I talked to him last week

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activate and start pilot testing as we

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removal. uh the system was put into

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service and the consultant and operator

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data. Now we don't have the most recent

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data report that's been compiled per the

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slightly. Uh on 414 of course everybody

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they intended to lower the chlorine

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levels going into the green sand filters

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of disinfection byproducts. We the D

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concerns about lowering the chlorine

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levels as this has a historically caused

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iron and manganese removal filters to

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not work properly. Uh water becomes

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manufacturer of the total organic carbon

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may be possible to relocate this filter

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to before the point of disinfection and

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TOC is traditionally removed before the

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water is disinfected as the TOC and the

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chlorine are what cause the formation of

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disinfection byproducts. the minimal

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byproducts were forming immediately

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after disinfection and that the current

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disinfection was not adequately reducing

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the disinfection byproducts. this issue

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the TOC filter but the consultant

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was confident this setup would work. So

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filter manufacturer to please reach out

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to their office to discuss. uh they have

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received no response for that and they

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Uh they are receiving a little bit of

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that chlorination. Um but these are not

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uh nothing seems to be bad levels at

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this point. A lot of the issues are

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resolved. M

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>> I talked to James a little bit about the

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prospect long term and it seems that

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everybody's of the same mind that

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long-term we probably would switch to

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just drilling a new well and that's

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something that in my opinion I think the

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board should deeply consider uh we do

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have that grant and funding in place. we

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might want to get ahead of this

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>> and I I think we do have town land if

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we're still own it that's abuing that

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property and in that area there's

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historically to the best of my knowledge

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no no no information that I've ever

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heard of where those wells had issues um

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we could work with the D and site that

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property I talked to James would that be

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a possibility he said absolutely and

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that you know we have that grant in

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process and that may be something that

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town of Millville should consider

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>> and we have to write a scope of work for

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that and go with the bid even though

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it's a grant right

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>> well it's grant is funding it there's

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plenty of money to do that well and

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Mccclure has

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>> been communicating with D on that

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process and the commencement of that

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process because they think you know that

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they're still going back and forth as

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Kristen say on says on

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>> where to locate the TOC filter versus

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where They have it today. They have not

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had I've not had to issue any

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non-compliance

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uh report so far, but uh because they've

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been managing it for the you know the

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water that's ultimately coming out of

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the system. Under the pilot study, they

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do test the water at different other

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spots within the system

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>> and it indic you know it may indicate

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that they've exceeded an MCL within but

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it's then treated before it goes out

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into the

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>> correct. So as it comes into the green

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uh pardon me the sand filters and then

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it goes to the green sand filter there

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is a point of testing before the first

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green sand filter. Then between the next

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that green sand filter and the next

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there's another point of testing. And

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then finally at the end of both green

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sand filters there's a third point of

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testing. So when you have breakthrough

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through the first filter if it were to

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occur it would be in that middle testing

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site and you'd be able to discern that

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prior to exceeding the capacity of the

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second green sand filter. So you would

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never get a breach within the system and

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you'd never get full breakthrough that

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would come to the tap water. And so

347
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that's the logic behind all that

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testing.

349
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>> So by overcllorinating though, don't you

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place the green sand in jeopardy? You

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have to change it.

352
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>> You do. So that what James was speaking

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of is to put the initial chloration

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really before the first sand filters be

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well before the green sand filters. So

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um that would actually stop and start

357
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Those sand filters would help break up

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some of the chlorination. They do the

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job. They capture some of that

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chlorination, reduce the amount that

361
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travels downstream to the green sand

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filters, making them more effective and

363
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less problems on the outside.

364
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>> All right. And the last quarter last

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quarter was passing, Peter.

366
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>> Yeah. I've not had to issue any reports

367
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and they tell me pretty quickly when

368
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it's time.

369
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>> Okay.

370
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>> So, we're we're still good.

371
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>> I don't have any more questions. You

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good?

373
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>> Yeah.

374
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>> All right.

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uh high school update. You want to table

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that since Rachel's not here or unless

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you have an update.

378
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>> She did give me an update, right? Um so

379
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I I'm happy to read that. Pretty pretty

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good one. Um she said that there, you

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know, they at their last meeting of the

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school building committee, there was

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more refining of the building design

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with some more solid estimates. They're

385
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looking at 154 million for construction

386
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hard costs for the project. Those costs

387
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do not include the soft costs, and she

388
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mentions furniture, legal fees, and

389
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consulting fees. There's also a look at

390
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add-ons and alternate addition costs,

391
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including a separate out building with

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bathrooms, lockers, and concessions that

393
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would cost 2.3 million. Football

394
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bleachers at 600K, sports lighting at

395
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1.8 million. And those costs would have

396
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to be funded completely by the towns. It

397
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would not be covered under the MSBA

398
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grant. The um 154 does not include a

399
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contingency and typically that would be

400
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around 10% or an additional 15 million.

401
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The uh range of MSBA reimbursement on

402
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those costs that are covered by them

403
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would be around 59 to 65%.

404
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Again, not on the total cost of the

405
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project. They'll cover about 130,000

406
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square feet of the building, but

407
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currently the proposed building is at

408
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151,000 square feet. So there's 21,000

409
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square feet outside of the MSBA funding.

410
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>> Um, and one of the reasons uh largely

411
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due to uh having the seventh grade

412
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academic wing, which reportedly the

413
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teachers weren't in favor of the 7 to 12

414
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grade design. They're more in favor of

415
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the 8 to 12 and Rachel wanted that to be

416
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mentioned.

417
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>> Um, they're looking to have a vote in

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November on the ballot. I I believe it

419
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also has to be at a special town

420
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meeting. Right. Um, and there's another

421
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meeting this coming Wednesday,

422
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uh, 5:00 pm, and the school building

423
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committee will be voting to submit the

424
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current design package for the MSBA. I

425
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did ask Rachel if there was any estimate

426
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of cost per 100K. They that's still not

427
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available. So, uh, you know, 100K

428
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evaluation, if you will.

429
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>> Cool. So,

430
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>> you kind of have to have your schematic

431
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>> schematic. Thank you. schematic design

432
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um approved and that's what's going for

433
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them and then that will drive the next

434
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those will drive the numbers

435
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>> um so to put numbers out there it they

436
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could change and that they want the

437
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information that goes out there to be

438
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the accurate um information and so the

439
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>> the ballot because you have to vote at

440
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town meeting and on ballot because both

441
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towns obviously it's a state election

442
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>> to get it on the ballot they know the

443
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deadlines they know the information um

444
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they'll work with the town clerks to get

445
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it so that a separate separate election

446
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doesn't need to be held um in both

447
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communities.

448
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>> Great.

449
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>> So speaking of that, actually squirrel

450
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moment here. Um June 30th, the

451
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appointment for the town clerk was until

452
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that point and we don't have a meeting

453
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between now and then. So

454
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>> So she would be in holdover status and

455
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she would be returning

456
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her note that says she wants to be

457
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appointed. Okay. So she plans to okay

458
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>> seek reappointment by you. Um, and so

459
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all of the parties are in holdover

460
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status. It's taken a while to get all

461
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the records coordinated so that letters

462
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could go out. They went out last week to

463
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ask folks if they want to re-up and then

464
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from there you'll see a schedule that

465
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says okay so and so to be reappointed.

466
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>> I said want to be left without a town

467
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clerk.

468
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>> No, we won't. And uh part of the

469
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negotiation of

470
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her includes the the space in the old

471
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town hall that we'll be

472
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>> she'll be getting.

473
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>> Ah okay.

474
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>> Okay.

475
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>> Uh the essentials office.

476
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>> Yes.

477
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>> All right.

478
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Uh old town hall repair reuse. So before

479
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that I also had you have in there the

480
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MSBA letter sorry

481
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>> has information on this uh regarding the

482
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um Maloney school which is being taken

483
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out of service for educational purposes

484
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by the town of Blackstone. And so what's

485
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left is some amount of funding due back

486
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to MSBA uh 27,000 approximately. Right.

487
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And what MSBA in this letter that's in

488
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your packets is saying that they would

489
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add that cost or they would reduce the

490
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amount that they would reimburse on the

491
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high school project. So the only thing I

492
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would point out is the 207 is a

493
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Blackstone cost

494
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>> but by reducing the reimbursement on the

495
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high school project it then becomes a

496
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reduction in reimbursement for Milville.

497
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So Mil Mill would be paying for

498
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>> indirectly

499
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>> 25% of that cost indirectly.

500
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>> So indirectly. Yeah.

501
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>> So that's something to think about how

502
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you want to

503
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>> maybe consider dealing with that.

504
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>> I think we definitely have to.

505
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>> Yes.

506
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,000
>> We we should talk about it. Yeah. I I

507
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thought

508
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>> we owe zero

509
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>> correct

510
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>> is what we owe. And so we're not going

511
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to owe a third of or a quarter of

512
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>> 207.

513
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>> Yeah. 207. So that's going to have to be

514
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a conversation we have with the district

515
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in Blackstone.

516
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,640
>> Yeah. What is their logic behind us

517
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owing a quarter

518
00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:22,400
of of that? It

519
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,080
>> Well, they're just using, you know, in

520
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other words, MSBA says, "Okay, the

521
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district owes us this back."

522
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,799
>> Sure.

523
00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:30,480
>> And I think they're the way they look

524
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must look at is independent of the lease

525
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agreements the town ha each town has.

526
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Okay.

527
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>> For the buildings each town owns, which

528
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would be the elementary schools. So,

529
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>> they may not be aware of that fact.

530
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,080
>> Yeah. that those buildings were owned

531
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separately and and drived separately

532
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prior to our joint agreement. And so,

533
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:48,880
yeah,

534
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>> even though the school takes out the

535
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loan

536
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,600
>> through MSBA,

537
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,880
>> um it's kind of within the community

538
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that it's housed in is is paying that

539
00:18:58,799 --> 00:18:59,919
loan back

540
00:18:59,919 --> 00:19:00,960
>> loan holders. Yeah.

541
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>> Um so, when I say a quarter to a third,

542
00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:05,440
that's our enrollment. That's our piece

543
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,080
of the budget.

544
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,280
>> I figured that's where that number. So

545
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,440
when I say like I mean really this is

546
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,240
Blackstone's loan that that the school

547
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,080
manages through MSBA.

548
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,559
>> Yeah.

549
00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,200
>> But we we our name besides being part of

550
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,720
the regional district shouldn't be on

551
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,440
there.

552
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:19,760
>> Right.

553
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,520
>> Yeah. I was hoping to have a guest star

554
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,280
tonight to at least clarify some of

555
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,360
those points but we didn't have

556
00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:28,080
somebody. So but my understanding was

557
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,480
the initial costs were not going to be

558
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,960
uh formed by Milville. But if they're

559
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,799
going to be in effect in an indirect

560
00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:35,840
way, then

561
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,480
>> out of

562
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,840
>> we need to have further discussions.

563
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,400
Yeah.

564
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:38,640
>> Yep.

565
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,160
>> So, I just want to point that out from

566
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,799
that.

567
00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:42,559
>> I again I thought we'd have some

568
00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:44,880
clarification, but maybe at a future

569
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,679
meeting.

570
00:19:45,679 --> 00:19:47,520
>> Okay.

571
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,919
>> All right. So, we've uh we've killed

572
00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:50,559
that for now.

573
00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:51,360
>> Town hall.

574
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,400
Yeah.

575
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,000
>> Let's talk about that.

576
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,480
>> Yeah.

577
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,559
>> Town hall. Yeah. So, uh

578
00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:58,799
>> the assessor's office.

579
00:19:58,799 --> 00:19:59,679
>> I'm sorry.

580
00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:00,880
>> He yelled something about the assessor

581
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,559
office. office. The first I heard about

582
00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:03,679
that information.

583
00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:05,679
>> Yeah. The first he's hearing about cuz I

584
00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:08,799
was just going to ask um if the people

585
00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:10,720
everyone who has space, are they getting

586
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,679
equal space at the next place? Cuz you

587
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:15,200
get accustomed to what you're living in.

588
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,320
Yeah. And

589
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,480
>> and so is everybody's space equal? Like

590
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,720
>> I think there's a planagram, right? That

591
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,000
>> Yeah. So we've been working through

592
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,080
that, right? And it's still in a bit of

593
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,919
flux. And so we've had movers come in

594
00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:32,480
and remove.

595
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,400
There's my guest star.

596
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,240
>> Do you want to do you want to backtrack

597
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,360
real quick or

598
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:38,000
>> do you mind

599
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,400
>> before we open that discussion? Hey Dan,

600
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,919
>> Mr. Keith, do you mind coming up? I I

601
00:20:41,919 --> 00:20:44,480
was holding this for you. So

602
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,320
>> we were hoping to just clarify uh the

603
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,559
JFK Maloney School. Um

604
00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:51,360
>> Yes.

605
00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:54,000
>> And so before you walked in, Peter was

606
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,760
um just telling me uh I'm Russell.

607
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,200
>> No, you win.

608
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,080
>> You'd win.

609
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,520
>> So, our understanding is that the

610
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,039
initial cost would be worn by

611
00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:04,880
Blackstone, but that there may be an

612
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,240
impact to the MSBA loan.

613
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,840
>> So, I just shared that letter that's in

614
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,039
the board's packet, right?

615
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,280
>> Yes. What you received and the MSBA was

616
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,320
so No. Yes. The letter is accurate. So,

617
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,440
the town of Blackstone's full intent

618
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,880
is to pay that off.

619
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,440
>> So, it had no effect on the upcoming

620
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,240
>> school project.

621
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,559
>> Yes.

622
00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:24,159
>> So, you're going to pay that in front.

623
00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:24,480
Okay.

624
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,760
>> Yeah. That was part of the town meeting

625
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,760
vote on the 1.5 million.

626
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,240
>> Yeah.

627
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,760
>> Okay.

628
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,280
I thought that was kind of the case, but

629
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,720
I I was hoping you could clarify that,

630
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,159
but then when Peter presented that, I

631
00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:34,880
wasn't sure. So,

632
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,640
>> yeah. So, and so article I think it was

633
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,400
articles 8, nine, and 10 or somewhere

634
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,320
around there. So, those are all town

635
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,120
articles and those were all re and so I

636
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,360
know that may have been Mr. Finn was a

637
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:46,880
little concerned that I was speaking on

638
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,320
behalf of the district. That was

639
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,640
completely all town related. So, when I

640
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,159
said we will be would be on the hook, I

641
00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:53,520
meant the town of Blackstone. It's tough

642
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,799
when you have many hats.

643
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,039
>> Well, yeah. I was figured it would be

644
00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,440
pretty clear that we was a town meeting.

645
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,000
>> Yeah. In

646
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,440
>> Blackstone Town related, but Yeah.

647
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,480
>> Yeah. So, and it's been it's been um

648
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840
stated plenty of times in the uh select

649
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,280
men's meeting in Blackstone and in the

650
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,440
school committee that the town's

651
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,799
>> burden alone.

652
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:13,440
>> Okay.

653
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,520
>> Yeah. And so there's no um so we did get

654
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,760
the uh our payoff on it just while while

655
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,320
I'm here. Uh the town's payoff on the

656
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,880
MSBA portion is 26,000.

657
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,360
>> Okay.

658
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,720
>> And we had 129,000

659
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,880
uh left over the next up until 2029

660
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,960
anyhow to pay. So that was it's all so

661
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,840
it's all covered.

662
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,480
>> Gotcha. Okay.

663
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,200
>> So we're waiting on the next steps to

664
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,480
hear back from MSBA. Then this will go

665
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,520
still goes in front of the school

666
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,200
committee and things like that. So the

667
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,799
town meeting and vote is essentially to

668
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:48,720
get all the provisions in place. The

669
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,880
first two articles were legal ease of

670
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,679
removing it from the lease part and the

671
00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:56,240
second part was

672
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,640
um well first one I think was separating

673
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,400
the building. Second part was removing

674
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,159
that portion of it from the lease.

675
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:02,960
>> Okay.

676
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,440
>> And the third part was for funding for

677
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,360
retrofitting.

678
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,120
>> Makes that makes sense to me. Anybody

679
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:10,240
have any questions about that?

680
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,559
>> No.

681
00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,880
>> And it's going to be paid off before the

682
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,520
um school building project goes forward.

683
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,559
>> Yes. Yes. So he doesn't have any however

684
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:20,720
we would like to pay it off. However,

685
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,360
the MSBA sets it up, but we're very

686
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,840
clear that so

687
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,760
the superintendent is setting up is

688
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000
attempting to set up a call. So we have

689
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,840
to respond. I think it in the letter is

690
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,760
June 25th and

691
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,120
>> and so the superintendent has a response

692
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:38,880
ready

693
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,960
>> um that it has no impact on the current

694
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,240
um ongoing building proposal. uh for the

695
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,080
high school.

696
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,440
Um it's just a matter of

697
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,799
the um technicality of how how we pay it

698
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:57,120
off. We will the town of Blackstoneone

699
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,960
can pay that off um as of June 1, July

700
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280
1st. It's we have authorization to pay

701
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,039
that off as of July 1st. I think the

702
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,840
date on that was for July 5th. The the

703
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,480
actually the payoff

704
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,080
amount is from July 15, 2025.

705
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,679
H

706
00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:18,000
number so they went back to last July

707
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,720
and we're not debating that because that

708
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,559
building was empty in July 15th of 2025.

709
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:27,279
So we're not argu we it came in under

710
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,520
what we expected for the payoff anyhow.

711
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,720
So,

712
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720
>> and moving forward, um we'll have

713
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,640
conversations

714
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,240
um

715
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,919
based on this, you know, based on the

716
00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:40,320
square footage because there's heating

717
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,279
and um electrical costs that Milville

718
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,279
pays a portion to through the district

719
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,520
that we want to make sure that Milville

720
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,120
is not paying

721
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,640
>> at all, you know, and that's the town of

722
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,200
Blackstone doesn't want we own we'll own

723
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,559
that that obligation. So it may start

724
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:58,799
off as

725
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:00,640
a base with an agreement with the town

726
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,240
of Milville based on a formula of square

727
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,600
footage until we can get some type of

728
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,120
meat because unfortunately there's not two electrical meters

729
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:07,919
there's one

730
00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:09,279
>> separation is not clean.

731
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:12,720
>> Yeah and and and so but we will ensure

732
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,440
that

733
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,880
>> can you submeter that? I so we are

734
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,799
looking into that now um

735
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:24,799
>> to get a better um uh reading on I guess

736
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:26,559
without anything else the fairest way is

737
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,960
like what's the building operating under

738
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520
based on square footage we've taken this

739
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,960
square footage back

740
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,200
>> but we'll we'll try to quickly get a um

741
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,120
>> yeah if you separate the if you can see

742
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,120
the separation of the services before it

743
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,360
enters the main you can just put a

744
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,520
submeter on that and those will

745
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,039
digitally calculate

746
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:47,200
you know, in real time. So, we're

747
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,679
actually separated instead of because

748
00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:51,840
you could use more power one place or

749
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,919
the other and and that would be then

750
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:57,120
offset by us paying, you know, by

751
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,200
percentage of square foot instead. This

752
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,720
would be a true separation through

753
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,120
submarine.

754
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:01,840
>> That's the goal.

755
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,640
>> Yeah, I like that.

756
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640
>> And yes, that was one of the first

757
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,039
things uh we looked into as well as um

758
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,440
>> the um you know, some of it some of

759
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,279
those rooms will have mini splits and

760
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:14,960
things like that. So we'll be offsetting

761
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760
even the the the heating system coming

762
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,480
in. So but in in the meanwhile we I my

763
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,000
thought and I think I may have mentioned

764
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,360
this to you is um whatever that offset

765
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,080
is that Blackstone is paying I'd like

766
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,240
the town of Milville to see that monthly

767
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,760
or whatever when the bills are being

768
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,840
paid so that you see that you're not

769
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,480
paying uh that that that cost is being

770
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,480
borne by the entirely by the town of

771
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:40,960
Blackstone.

772
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,840
>> That' be great. Thank you.

773
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,360
>> That's great to have clarity. Thank you

774
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,200
for that. That's that's really being

775
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,240
upfront. Thank you.

776
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,760
>> Thank you for swinging by unless Okay.

777
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,880
Hate making you come all this way.

778
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Unless you have anything else you want

779
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,320
to add.

780
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,559
>> I don't think I do.

781
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,159
>> Still want to arm wrestle though, do

782
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:54,480
you?

783
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,559
>> I mean, we'll save it. It's been a long

784
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:57,520
day.

785
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760
>> Well, listen, actually, I got to pause

786
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600
you. I mean, we did have a UF UFC fight

787
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,200
on the White House line. I mean, we

788
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,159
could potentially do this.

789
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:04,720
Extraordinary.

790
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,080
>> I mean, it's not on the agenda, but I

791
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,200
mean, we could do it.

792
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,640
>> Things not anticipated.

793
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,799
>> I tell you, I'm 48 hours a meeting.

794
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,080
>> I'm really not interested. who

795
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,880
anticipated

796
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,799
>> hurt me more than I can hurt anybody

797
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:15,120
else.

798
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,880
>> He is a strong guy, you know. So,

799
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,039
>> yeah, I don't think is going to cover

800
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,400
that, Dan. I think you're

801
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,840
>> want to hurt me and I don't want to hurt

802
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,960
him.

803
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,000
>> All right.

804
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,640
>> And yeah, that's um I think that's all I had.

805
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,720
>> Um Oh, and we um the Millville Water.

806
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,559
I'm not asking for an update on it, but

807
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,600
we I'm on an email with a resident that

808
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,640
is looking for um updates in uh through the school

809
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,360
district. Um and so if um

810
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,200
you are are you the point person?

811
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,080
>> I I am. Yeah.

812
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,159
>> All right. So if I we can we just attach

813
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:54,000
that stuff and send it.

814
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
>> So I've asked I've asked Mccclure to

815
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,240
summarize it because that attaching that

816
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,279
stuff there's a ton of stuff. I've asked

817
00:28:01,279 --> 00:28:03,279
them to put a summary together

818
00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,120
>> and to be able to, you know, provide

819
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,600
that information based on Kristen had

820
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,919
sent that over from the residents. So,

821
00:28:09,919 --> 00:28:11,679
I'm waiting on Mccclure

822
00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:14,000
>> to uh address that. Frankly,

823
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,360
>> I would prefer like and anyone asking

824
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:18,880
for water updates

825
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,159
>> instead of going through the school,

826
00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:21,760
they should probably just go right to

827
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,480
you guys are the water. Yeah. So, so if

828
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,559
there's no objection like I I don't

829
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:28,640
think the school should be

830
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,279
>> giving what we have no problem posting

831
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:32,559
stuff on the website,

832
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:33,600
>> but but I I

833
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,640
>> haven't talked to the experts.

834
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,039
>> I want Mccclure to provide the summary

835
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,919
information for you all as well, right?

836
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:42,159
So, it' be the same info and we we're

837
00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:44,000
happy to give it. I don't have that yet.

838
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,799
those of us who have shallower lives

839
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,559
that watch our each other's meetings and

840
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,279
stuff, right, are up to are up to speed

841
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,320
on the water stuff, you know, and and so

842
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,720
um

843
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,279
>> is that can we post that on our town

844
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,399
website? Water information uh you know,

845
00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:04,320
a summary and with dates for each

846
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,799
update. That way anybody from either

847
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:08,960
town can quickly go on and find it.

848
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,399
>> Yeah. So we have

849
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:12,480
>> we haven't had anything recent, you

850
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,840
know, but that would be the type of

851
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,600
information that would go on the section

852
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,840
of the website that we have a ton of

853
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,440
water information

854
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,679
>> currently you know but I don't have the

855
00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:24,399
summary of the latest pilot test

856
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:24,799
>> right

857
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,159
>> data which is voluminous

858
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:30,000
>> right there's a lot

859
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760
>> summary because they're testing here

860
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,440
there everywhere every day you know to

861
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,799
be compliant yeah I mean they're still

862
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,320
they're testing actual part the the

863
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,840
water that's being trucked in as well,

864
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,520
right? I mean, through different

865
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,799
>> They did previously.

866
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,120
>> Yeah. So, it's it's so it's there's a

867
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,520
lot of

868
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,200
>> It was skewed, but it's we're past that

869
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,679
now, right?

870
00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:49,200
>> We are. We are. It's not local.

871
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,600
>> You're on the pilot plan. you you may be

872
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,799
drilling a new well, you may not.

873
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,440
There's a lot of things in that. So it's

874
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,640
>> it's um

875
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,559
>> but I wanted a summary from Mccclure

876
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,240
which addressed some of the things that

877
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,200
you know uh we're Kristen updated

878
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,320
earlier you know that says hey we're

879
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,799
>> we're dealing with D on the location of

880
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,520
this and the way we treat this and geez

881
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760
the you know we're tweaking the chlorine

882
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,640
and

883
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,600
>> PAS results are this and

884
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,039
>> disinfection byproducts are this

885
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:22,640
>> people should know you're also

886
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,640
potentially getting ahead the PAS with

887
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,440
this project.

888
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760
>> Oh, I think so. Yeah, for sure.

889
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,399
>> We just did a $10 million water

890
00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:32,080
filtration system and it's we're

891
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,039
probably going to have to put another

892
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,080
four or five into that to deal with the

893
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320
upcoming PAS regulations.

894
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,440
>> I have to start selling lemonade over

895
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,159
there in Blackstone.

896
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,240
>> Have to do something. So,

897
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,200
>> well, thank you for coming.

898
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,480
>> All right. All right. Thank you for

899
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,039
having me.

900
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:45,840
>> Thank you.

901
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,279
>> Have a good evening. I promised I

902
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:48,240
wouldn't have you waiting.

903
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,279
>> No, thank you.

904
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,200
>> That door is locked, by the way.

905
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,320
Sorry.

906
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,000
>> But that wasn't

907
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,399
>> that was

908
00:30:56,399 --> 00:30:57,279
>> that wasn't that was

909
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:58,399
>> that's usually bad.

910
00:30:58,399 --> 00:30:58,799
>> Really?

911
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,720
>> You know what? Security we it's high

912
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,159
priority here. So,

913
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:03,360
>> thank you. Have a good night.

914
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,480
>> Thank you.

915
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,240
>> All right. Back to the old town hall.

916
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,799
>> Yes. So, there's still repairs uh going

917
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,960
on there. There's painting. There's

918
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,200
flooring upgrades. There's stuff like

919
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,520
that.

920
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,120
>> So, just to clarify, my joke about the

921
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,559
assessor's office was tongue and cheek.

922
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,799
not to be taken seriously, but I I

923
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,799
assure that Maggie has a planagram. I

924
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,880
have not taken uh I haven't looked at

925
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,440
it.

926
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:25,919
>> So,

927
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:27,919
>> I just want to make sure that the people

928
00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:30,799
who have space, you know, if they have

929
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,080
five file cabinets here or four

930
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,799
cupboards and a desk and I

931
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:37,440
>> Yeah,

932
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,000
>> that's going to be difficult to

933
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,880
>> So, we think we

934
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600
>> to to match. And if we do have to

935
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,600
downsize, then we should be downsizing

936
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080
through everybody and not expecting one

937
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480
or two departments to significantly

938
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,360
decrease their square footage.

939
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,799
>> Yeah. So, I don't think we're

940
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:58,399
necessarily doing that.

941
00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:00,559
>> Tim disagrees.

942
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,240
>> I hear.

943
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,080
So, um, and we have movers that have

944
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,159
disassembled a row,

945
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:10,720
>> the planner and the assessor's row

946
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,960
>> to put into the big open space to make

947
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,559
sure it's in the right spot and we have

948
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,799
the right number of rows and the right

949
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:22,320
persons assigned to the spots in that

950
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,919
space. And I think we're pretty good in

951
00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:27,120
terms of of that. Um, and then

952
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360
separately we have some others that it

953
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,679
will only be the first floor that's open

954
00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:34,960
because we have yet to get the elevator

955
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,799
sorted out in terms of what needs to be

956
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,039
done to get that operating. So, the

957
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,039
public will only have access to the

958
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:43,200
first floor.

959
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,200
>> There may be some other spots up uh you

960
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,039
know that folks will be upstairs for

961
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:50,559
example. Um,

962
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,640
>> what what's going on with the elevator?

963
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,480
I has anybody called an elevator?

964
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320
>> We have Otis elevator come in I think

965
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,519
it's this week to

966
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,480
>> Thursday to see about uh what's going to

967
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,840
be involved in

968
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,200
>> reactivating that.

969
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,519
>> Yeah.

970
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:06,480
>> And that

971
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,720
>> we may find that that's pretty expensive

972
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,200
or it's not. We we don't know that yet.

973
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Right. And if it's pretty expensive then

974
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,039
that's a future funding challenge for

975
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,840
the town. We're trying to do what we can

976
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,080
within essentially 400 grand that we

977
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,039
have available for this project and

978
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,720
we're we're doing that with what we've

979
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,240
got. Um

980
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640
>> where are we within the scope of the

981
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,159
project? Where are we financially in

982
00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:35,760
that 400 400,000?

983
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,080
>> So we have about I'm going to say 50

984
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,640
grand left to play with which we think

985
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,880
will cover some of the moving costs.

986
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,200
We'll cover some of the technology

987
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,880
connections and things like that. I

988
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,320
think it's 50 grand. I'm just

989
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,159
ballparking based on what we've probably

990
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:54,080
incurred from what we have. Um, so

991
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,080
again, there's repairs being done. You

992
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,240
know, Joe was in there three days this

993
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,679
weekend doing a lot of like flooring and

994
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:04,240
some uh, you know, final painting and

995
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,039
things like that.

996
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,279
>> I think we owe him a great

997
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,119
>> I keep telling him his name should go on

998
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:10,560
that building. He's unbelievable.

999
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,440
>> Really? If it wasn't for him, it it

1000
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,200
never it would have been trashed.

1001
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,839
>> Yeah. know

1002
00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:17,919
>> I mean it was really falling apart

1003
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:18,879
literally.

1004
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:22,720
>> Yeah. So it's uh so we're you know where

1005
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,520
the you know the number of connections

1006
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,159
coming out of the ceiling drops for

1007
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,639
connecting someone's computer someone's

1008
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,720
phone someone's printer that sort of

1009
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,280
thing remains to you know still being

1010
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,919
worked out with the the proper folks uh

1011
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:41,040
including our Jack our electrical

1012
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,359
inspector who's done some of the work so

1013
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:49,520
far. So then there's a deep clean. Um we were over there today and we've

1014
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,720
decided some of the rugs that we were

1015
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:54,560
hoping to live with, we probably would

1016
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,359
be better to put down some sort of

1017
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:59,520
flooring, remove the rugs, put some

1018
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,079
flooring down. It's it's fairly

1019
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,040
inexpensive money that gives, you know,

1020
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,760
gives the the place a bit a good look.

1021
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,400
you know, the the ladies were not

1022
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,400
thrilled with the way the lady's

1023
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,040
restroom was. That's now been sorted

1024
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,839
out, and so I think it gets the

1025
00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:20,079
>> at least it gets the Maggie seal of

1026
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:24,079
approval, which is important. Um

1027
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,440
>> um to circle back on the right size

1028
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,079
office space for individuals.

1029
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,320
>> Um

1030
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,800
I don't want I want to make sure moving

1031
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,160
forward through this that we're not

1032
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040
marginalizing any individual that

1033
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,200
everybody has enough space for all their

1034
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,880
equipment. And um are you finding any

1035
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,079
challenges with that? Because I Hey Joe,

1036
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:52,160
I am kind of concerned with just

1037
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,320
everybody's got the ability to function.

1038
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,400
Well, I I know it's it's an old

1039
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,359
building, so it's not uh it's like it's

1040
00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:01,599
not going to be, you know, a square hole

1041
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:03,359
in a round peg type thing.

1042
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:05,839
>> Well, it's going to require folks to

1043
00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:09,359
have some flexibility and some of the

1044
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:12,000
things will be sorted out even when we

1045
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,560
get in there because we just,

1046
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,599
>> you know, there's just so many

1047
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,240
unforeseen things. But I think it it's

1048
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,359
nearly ready for things to start moving

1049
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,359
in. Folks have been starting to pack

1050
00:36:23,359 --> 00:36:27,440
things and um you know that's all good.

1051
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,040
Uh great work. Again, Joe working his

1052
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,760
tail off.

1053
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,680
>> Peter, if somebody is having a problem,

1054
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,920
would you keep the entire board a breast

1055
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,720
of that and the details of it so

1056
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,880
>> you know we can at least be considerate

1057
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,359
and and responsive if if we have the

1058
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:48,240
ability to do so. Um and and help

1059
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:48,720
comfortable.

1060
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,400
>> Yeah, I think Maggie's got a planagram

1061
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,839
that she's been working on. Is that

1062
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:52,720
correct?

1063
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,440
>> It's in process. Changes every day. But

1064
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,800
yes, that's the idea. We're working on

1065
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,320
trying to identify exactly where

1066
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,720
everyone's going to be located. And

1067
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,400
>> um I think every time we look at it, we

1068
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,720
make a few tweaks to it, but until we

1069
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,480
start getting the furniture in there, I

1070
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,079
think it's hard to really get a sense of

1071
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,000
the space. But we're we're making

1072
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,000
progress for sure. lots of file

1073
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,760
cabinets, you know, and where they're

1074
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,880
located,

1075
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,599
>> things like that.

1076
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:18,000
>> Are we using that basement ground floor

1077
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,040
as well or

1078
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,880
>> right now? No.

1079
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,400
>> Okay. So, is that going to be future

1080
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,480
space for town hall employees or

1081
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,320
>> So, the intent of that space was for the

1082
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960
police department satellite operation

1083
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,920
with ladies facilities, you know, female

1084
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,320
facilities and so forth, but that's not

1085
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,000
part of the funding that we have

1086
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,760
available to do what we're doing right

1087
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,320
now. So, Folks might have to come back

1088
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,320
uh you know come back to

1089
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,560
>> revisit that. Exactly. You know, we're

1090
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640
going to put in right now it has uh

1091
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,320
we're going to need to get some air

1092
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,040
condition window air conditioning units

1093
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,480
um for the time being. Um

1094
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,400
I don't know what else there is. Again,

1095
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Joe's

1096
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,599
>> Oh, I had one final question. I'm so

1097
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,280
sorry. That's all right.

1098
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,440
>> There had been a big room to the right

1099
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,320
at the top of the stairs and on the

1100
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,520
second floor of course and um I remember

1101
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,400
a long time ago um our historian Mr.

1102
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Berthallet had said he'd really like

1103
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,480
that room to be able to make a like a

1104
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,280
mini museum. Yeah. With displays and

1105
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,400
>> he was asking me.

1106
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,079
>> Is that still a possibility? I haven't

1107
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:27,040
talked to him in years.

1108
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,720
>> So that's not ready for move in for

1109
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,320
that. Right. Okay. Okay. But that

1110
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,680
because that there's still some work

1111
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,359
that needs to happen with the ceilings

1112
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:35,040
and that sort of thing. But that's where

1113
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,079
the structural repairs for the roof were

1114
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,280
>> done. Okay. And that is the whole the

1115
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,200
game plan to have, you know, the

1116
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,599
displays and so forth along the lines of

1117
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,839
the museum. Separately up there is a

1118
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:49,680
room

1119
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,680
probably twothirds of the size of this

1120
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,920
room which is like a training room or

1121
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,440
meeting room. that's, you know, uh

1122
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,440
there's no real plan for that other than

1123
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,400
that's a great space to use for training

1124
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,040
or meeting and so forth. So, uh but

1125
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,240
again, not for the public at this stage

1126
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,560
because we don't have the elevator

1127
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,079
>> elevator. Peter, I hope

1128
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,880
>> can can we stop this? Can we ask Tim? He

1129
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,960
seems to have some commentary. So, do we

1130
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,119
want to include him in this conversation

1131
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:20,720
>> because um my patience is starting to

1132
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,400
wear thin.

1133
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,280
>> It's about out. I'll

1134
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,440
>> stop. I promise.

1135
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,079
Okay.

1136
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:26,560
>> Okay.

1137
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,760
>> Because if you got something to say,

1138
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,720
we're more than welcome.

1139
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:29,920
>> I emailed you all.

1140
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,680
>> You emailed us all.

1141
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,240
>> Yep.

1142
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:32,880
>> Okay.

1143
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,480
>> No response.

1144
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,760
>> Well, we're in the middle of

1145
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
discussions.

1146
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,320
So,

1147
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,640
>> okay.

1148
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,640
>> Well, I just heard.

1149
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,440
>> Okay. So, um I'm glad that the elevator

1150
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,440
is going to be dealt with. I I would

1151
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,200
like to see handicap accessible

1152
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,400
throughout the whole building. I think

1153
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,839
that's essential. and that one space you

1154
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:53,599
said uh that's like a meeting room

1155
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,079
that's a little bit bigger. I I hope

1156
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:57,680
that you and Maggie in your

1157
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,720
consideration of space if anybody does

1158
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,560
feel that they're not able to fully

1159
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,400
function within the space they're

1160
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,119
allotted that perhaps that or a portion

1161
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,079
of that space could be considered um for

1162
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,240
their use because I I really don't want

1163
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:13,920
to see people marginalized.

1164
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,280
>> I understand that. I don't think there's

1165
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,520
any intent of that. Uh there are, you

1166
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,599
know, there are also offices up there

1167
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,800
and semi cubicles outside those offices

1168
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
which are actually great spaces, but

1169
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,359
again not open to the public. Okay.

1170
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:28,320
>> Correct. Yeah.

1171
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,440
>> Um separately the window grant, right?

1172
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,640
We're we've been back and forth with the

1173
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,000
folks on that thing.

1174
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,400
>> Do you need help with Gloria on that?

1175
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,960
>> Well, so here's where they're at. Okay.

1176
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,200
Um they um we went out to bid twice on

1177
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,079
that thing and got no response. We've

1178
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,880
>> solicited chase people down. No

1179
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,839
response. They've come back and said we

1180
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:55,599
could, you know, hey, we thought, hey,

1181
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,599
what if we just bought the windows?

1182
00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:59,760
Because nobody really wanted the 50

1183
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,400
grand project of windows and

1184
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,960
installation, you know, using under

1185
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,319
prevailing wages. So, we asked about

1186
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:11,040
buying the windows and installing them

1187
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,839
ourselves at our leisure, right?

1188
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:14,480
>> Mhm.

1189
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,400
>> And

1190
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480
they came back with the caveat that the

1191
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,240
if you install yourselves, you still got

1192
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,240
to follow prevailing wages. Now, we

1193
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,920
haven't closed the loop on that because

1194
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,720
I would object to that. I haven't yet.

1195
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,119
Uh but anyway, our deadline they you

1196
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,920
know we look for an exp extension

1197
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,599
that's

1198
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,760
it it may not get us to where we need to

1199
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,319
be.

1200
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:40,400
>> Can I ask you because I I understand the

1201
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,480
grant in what I wrote. So within it we

1202
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,520
talked about the efficiency of a triple

1203
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,560
glaze.

1204
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,480
>> It did not the grant did not then

1205
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,480
dictate that those windows had to be

1206
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,839
triple glazed. we

1207
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:57,040
>> you it would still meet, you know,

1208
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,240
because we were talking about wind

1209
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,319
flection and everything else and and

1210
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:02,960
super efficiency. It still would be a

1211
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,520
much better envelope if we had which is

1212
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000
fairly standard, a double glaze.

1213
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,680
>> Um, is that what you're going out to

1214
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,880
bid, a double or a triple?

1215
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,119
>> No, triple. Because they would only let

1216
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,680
us do the triple. We asked repeatedly,

1217
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,160
>> do you want me to talk to them to try to

1218
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,319
explain because they had trouble

1219
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:22,480
understanding the physics behind the

1220
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,000
windshare and the glass flexion for seal

1221
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,040
and and efficiency and I had to explain

1222
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,440
all that to them and the calculations.

1223
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,839
>> I would be more than glad if you need

1224
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:36,880
assistance to explain it to them again.

1225
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,280
>> Okay.

1226
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520
>> And that it's not necessary. We're the

1227
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,400
triple the triple glaze is really for

1228
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,960
scenarios. We are not in Alaska. We are

1229
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,119
not high on a mountain. This is not

1230
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,680
Mount Washington. Um we are not on the

1231
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,400
shoreline. Uh those are for different

1232
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,640
scenarios. And yes, I did use those

1233
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,200
calculations to talk about efficiency,

1234
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,040
but it it's not what's governing this

1235
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,599
and and the essence of this and and what

1236
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:04,480
would make the most.

1237
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,800
>> Right. So I the only other thing I'll

1238
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,760
say I your help certainly is welcome. Um

1239
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,079
I don't again because of the time frames

1240
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:17,200
that were you know we've tried and tried without success and we tried

1241
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,079
to get it removed from the triple pane

1242
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:24,319
requirement. Couldn't do it. Um the only

1243
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:25,839
other thing I'll say is if you look at

1244
00:43:25,839 --> 00:43:27,839
the windows they're actually pretty darn

1245
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:29,599
good that are there. They've have been

1246
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,119
replaced at some time in the past.

1247
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,119
They're not perfect but they have been

1248
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,760
replaced and they're double pained and

1249
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160
you know that sort of thing. You know,

1250
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,920
Joe could probably talk better on the

1251
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,480
windows than I can, but that's my

1252
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,359
layman's approach is we're running out

1253
00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:47,599
of time on the grant. They won't extend

1254
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:51,119
beyond the end of July. Our focus is on

1255
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:54,880
getting out of here and in there and the

1256
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
landlord's allowing us

1257
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,839
through July, which is really wonderful.

1258
00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:00,640
Okay.

1259
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640
>> Um July 1st.

1260
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,240
>> July 31st. Okay.

1261
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,160
>> So, that's great because you know there

1262
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,839
still is work to be done. Sure.

1263
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:12,000
>> So, I I ask again, Peter, Richard, do

1264
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,000
you want me to reach out to Gloria at

1265
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160
the state and talk to them about the

1266
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,880
grant and try to find a a better

1267
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,680
scenario if possible? I don't know. You

1268
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,280
know, it's it's worth a shot since you

1269
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,119
>> I think it's worth a shot. Absolutely.

1270
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:25,920
From my perspective.

1271
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,920
>> If you guys are okay with me doing that.

1272
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,960
>> Is that all right, Jen?

1273
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,839
>> Yep.

1274
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:30,400
>> Okay,

1275
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,200
>> that'd be great.

1276
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,760
>> Then I'll do that.

1277
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,640
>> Fantastic. Yeah. So, uh, just to kind of

1278
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,640
close us out, my only other comment was

1279
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,079
I know that the assessors have been

1280
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:39,760
talking about some sort of a mainframe

1281
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,400
or computer or cloud. Did that get

1282
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,960
resolved?

1283
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,839
>> Yes. So, we're on the cloud and but

1284
00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:48,079
we're also as part of our technology in

1285
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,520
the town meeting vote.

1286
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,359
>> We're getting a new server, right? So,

1287
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:53,119
it's upgraded. It's

1288
00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:55,119
>> not 10 12 years old or whatever.

1289
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:56,400
>> And you have space for it in this

1290
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,599
building.

1291
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,040
>> Well, there's a lot of space in that

1292
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,560
building. And yes, we do. Yeah.

1293
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,280
>> Okay.

1294
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,960
So, I just want to make sure you

1295
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,240
have enough room wherever it's going to

1296
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,000
go. So, all right.

1297
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,920
>> We have more space than we truly need,

1298
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,079
you know, for the number of people.

1299
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:11,839
>> I trust you. I trust Maggie's judgment.

1300
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:13,440
I'm sure she's got a plan. Not putting

1301
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,319
you on the carpet, but I'm sure there's

1302
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:15,680
a planagram here somewhere and you guys

1303
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,960
are still working through it. So,

1304
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,119
>> with accessible

1305
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:19,839
>> space.

1306
00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:20,880
>> Yeah.

1307
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,800
>> Like you can't So, I'll just go on the

1308
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,520
record. I will never drop a dime beyond

1309
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,040
whatever whatever that grant is. Okay. I

1310
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960
totally disagree with the move back

1311
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,200
there. I was part of the board that that

1312
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,560
closed that down. Um the report, I don't

1313
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,160
know if the report was ever seen, but

1314
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,720
there's a stream that runs underneath

1315
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,319
the town hall and that's why the

1316
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:44,480
basement has had history of black mold

1317
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,079
has been remedied years and years of

1318
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:50,640
documents that was stored there. Um MIMA

1319
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,160
used to be down there. they removed

1320
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,920
their technology because of the

1321
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,160
moisture. Um, the amount of

1322
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,000
dehumidifiers over the years that have

1323
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,920
been there, there was dehumidifiers

1324
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,760
there in 1970 when I had speech down in

1325
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,800
that back room. So, this is an ongoing

1326
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,920
issue. Um, accessibility to the third

1327
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,720
floor, air conditioning units. It's not

1328
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,000
like you can say, "I'm going to go work

1329
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,680
in my office on the second floor and put

1330
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,280
an AC on and have it cool." that room.

1331
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,720
Those rooms take numerous hours to cool

1332
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,200
down. I don't believe in the move back

1333
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,359
there. I I think the town should have

1334
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:30,079
looked for other alternatives. Um I will

1335
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,319
support everything going forward as part

1336
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:34,160
of my responsibility.

1337
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,880
>> But beyond a grant to fix anything, you

1338
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,960
will always get a no vote from me. I

1339
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,480
don't believe that we belong in that

1340
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960
building. I don't think our staff should

1341
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,280
be in that building. I don't think it

1342
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,839
meets the needs of our community. and

1343
00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:52,400
are operating daytoday. Um, so you know,

1344
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,839
I sit here listening.

1345
00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:55,599
>> You know, that's a really some really

1346
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,440
good comments. Can you give us all the

1347
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,520
paperwork for that orile?

1348
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,359
>> Yeah, direct Peter as to where to find

1349
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:03,520
that paperwork and we like to review it.

1350
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,079
I don't want to just talk about things

1351
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,280
that we think or heard. I want to report

1352
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,520
Nope. Great. I want to see the actual

1353
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,359
reports. Peter, would you work with her

1354
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:15,040
to find those reports? Maybe she can

1355
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,680
give you some guidance.

1356
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,280
>> We'll see what we can find. Yeah, that

1357
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:17,680
would be

1358
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,160
>> When did we move out of there anyways?

1359
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,280
>> Uh 17

1360
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,040
years. So we're almost Yeah, I think I'm

1361
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,000
on 10 years. Yeah.

1362
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,760
>> Okay. 10 years. 16.

1363
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,079
>> Um do do we want any commentary from Joe

1364
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:31,200
since I see you sitting here?

1365
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,920
>> Might be helpful.

1366
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,520
>> Sir, would you mind coming up? Do you

1367
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,200
have any feedback?

1368
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960
>> Yeah. And Peter, I think um Jerry Finn

1369
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,079
was on that committee.

1370
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,720
>> Well, you guys did the study.

1371
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,319
>> Thank you for coming in.

1372
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:44,880
>> You might remember the exact dates. So,

1373
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,160
you heard some concerns about

1374
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,400
underground rivers and moisture and and

1375
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,079
you have been the special municipal

1376
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,000
employee here overseeing that and thank

1377
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,440
you for doing that.

1378
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,640
>> So, very much so.

1379
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,760
>> Part of the problem down there, the

1380
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,200
moisture was coming up from the where

1381
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,680
you have a hand dug

1382
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,599
section of that cellar.

1383
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:03,680
>> Okay. Since we fixed the floor, what I

1384
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,680
had them do is encapsulate that in

1385
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,640
plastic. So, your moisture level that

1386
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,040
used to be there dropped dramatically.

1387
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,359
Okay.

1388
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,839
>> Okay. I put a commercial I know there

1389
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,359
was dehumidifiers I seen them all over.

1390
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:17,440
I put a commercial one in there and I

1391
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,200
had to sell it down to 50% humidity. So

1392
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,920
to get that out of there my suggestion

1393
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,839
would be to put a air exchanger in that

1394
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:28,720
basement exchange air and get it moving

1395
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:32,720
and I think it's going to take a lot of thing. I couldn't find a stream

1396
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,800
that's there is a if you go in the back

1397
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,160
of that wall down the back where the

1398
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,839
kiln is.

1399
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:40,559
>> Somebody made a French drain or

1400
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,640
something. There's a sump back there.

1401
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,240
>> So sump pump's not even working. So it's

1402
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:46,000
like you might as well not even bother

1403
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,839
having it if it's not going to be

1404
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:50,400
>> functional. So if that's where the

1405
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,920
water's coming from, but be honest with

1406
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,359
you, I try to find a stream they're

1407
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:55,280
talking about. I know that the gut is

1408
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,760
coming down. They got to be rerooed at

1409
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,280
the bottom. Put longer pipes, get it so

1410
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,720
it doesn't drain next to the granite

1411
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,280
foundation. That's going to help a lot,

1412
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,880
you know, but it's just small stuff like

1413
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,000
that. I think you're going to get a lot

1414
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,720
of improvements on it.

1415
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:10,160
>> Okay. Like I said, when we looked at the

1416
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,520
building, there was no other options and

1417
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,440
you guys had to leave here. So, you were

1418
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,520
kind of like in a rock and a hard place.

1419
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,559
>> So, it sounds like there's some things

1420
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:17,920
here that we can get still get fixed.

1421
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,520
>> Mitigate the issues. Yes.

1422
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,280
>> Sure. Well, it sounds like you already

1423
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,119
did quite a bit to fix the issue.

1424
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,599
>> Well, like I said, it's it's an ongoing

1425
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:26,400
project. I mean, you

1426
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,680
>> It's a mountain. You've climbed that

1427
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:27,839
mountain.

1428
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:28,960
>> You'll get it. Thank you.

1429
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,960
>> You know, I mean, you just got to stay

1430
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,400
with it. You can't let the building just

1431
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,559
go deep under carry. You know, no

1432
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:36,319
maintenance on it. That's the worst

1433
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:37,119
enemy.

1434
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:38,240
>> It's had a good life. It should have

1435
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,599
been torn down.

1436
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:41,760
>> That's my opinion.

1437
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,640
>> Yeah.

1438
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,800
>> Well, I thought the same, but after

1439
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
talking to you years ago,

1440
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,319
>> engineer through the house,

1441
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:49,200
>> he seemed to know better.

1442
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,599
>> Go through the building.

1443
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,599
>> Here's what you don't, you know, you

1444
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:55,119
don't have to rip it down.

1445
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:56,400
>> And the problem that you had there, they

1446
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,720
saying rip it down. Okay. But you got to

1447
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:00,319
remember everything there and the fire

1448
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:02,000
department are all tied together.

1449
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,480
>> So the water comes out of the police

1450
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,319
department. The water comes out of there

1451
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:09,280
to do that. the sewer. I would imagine

1452
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,359
it's hooked in there somehow. So, that's

1453
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:12,800
another consideration you got to look

1454
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,400
at. It's like even if you were to sell

1455
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,440
the building,

1456
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,839
>> how do you cut those services now?

1457
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,040
>> So,

1458
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,440
>> yeah.

1459
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,319
>> I mean, that's something that, you know,

1460
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:23,760
>> Well, thank you very much for your hard

1461
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,440
work.

1462
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,800
>> Couldn't have done it without Joe. It

1463
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,400
was unbelievable. I think you really

1464
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,680
ought to think about naming it after

1465
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,160
him.

1466
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,280
>> I think we should.

1467
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,800
>> He's like the I want the new building

1468
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,720
after this, not this one.

1469
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,240
>> I think we definitely should. And I did

1470
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,680
look at the report that was out there

1471
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,079
and this they wanted $2.5 million to do

1472
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,520
renovations on it. They want to change

1473
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,720
the floor space inside

1474
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:43,680
>> 10 year old money

1475
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,680
>> and then they were going to do5 $5

1476
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,599
million to build you a new one

1477
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,040
>> and then I looked at the report the

1478
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,480
state did

1479
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,400
>> and I'm saying I looked at it in the

1480
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,960
beginning and I said this is not a big

1481
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,640
deal you know.

1482
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,280
>> Okay.

1483
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,200
>> I mean I've done this stuff for a lot of

1484
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,800
years so I I look at things different

1485
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,880
from other people. So

1486
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,440
>> we love you. That's just my uh

1487
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,880
>> I don't take away from the efforts that

1488
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,319
have been put forth by everyone trying

1489
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:10,079
to make this happen. I just wouldn't

1490
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:12,720
have voted in that that manner.

1491
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,640
>> Well, we're kind of past all that now

1492
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,480
and it sounds like you've overcome the

1493
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,760
issues in

1494
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,640
>> uh and it's it is impressive.

1495
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,040
>> It is absolutely impressive and I think

1496
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,280
we all very much appreciate you.

1497
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,559
>> Thank you.

1498
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:29,359
>> Extraordinary.

1499
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:30,480
>> We appreciate it.

1500
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,280
>> Thanks, Joe.

1501
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,880
>> Thank you, Joe. Thank you for stopping

1502
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,640
by even though you weren't planning on

1503
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,040
speaking.

1504
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,480
>> Yeah, I fig I'd stop and see what's

1505
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,240
going on. Well,

1506
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:38,559
>> could

1507
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:40,480
>> when you get closer to the end on that

1508
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,160
floor space and and plans, can

1509
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,559
>> we have a a glance at it?

1510
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:54,710
>> Sure.

1511
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:59,109
» I

1512
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,400
» not that. So for you to mark up

1513
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,400
But you already have a good

1514
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,280
>> Yeah,

1515
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,640
>> we were talking about a planagram.

1516
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,760
Everybody all the assignments in the

1517
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,319
room.

1518
00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:10,400
>> This was a layout of a building.

1519
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,559
>> So then you plug in what you want.

1520
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:13,200
>> Yeah.

1521
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,160
>> We give you scales.

1522
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,319
>> Okay. Good. Have we killed that? We're

1523
00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:18,480
good.

1524
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,040
>> I think we're good.

1525
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,280
>> All right. Mees generator repair

1526
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,640
replacement. So this is something that

1527
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,119
we asked Peter for a month ago. He has

1528
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:26,640
delivered. This is basically a scope of

1529
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,800
work for repair replacement for the

1530
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,680
generator um at the elementary school.

1531
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,400
So hoping to go out and publish this and

1532
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,200
see what we get.

1533
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,720
>> That's right. So we and it's a

1534
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,640
solicitation because it's a school

1535
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,359
building and the range is 10 to 100

1536
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:43,920
grand. So you solicit three.

1537
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,839
>> We're going to go Yep. Okay.

1538
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:47,520
>> And where do you post this?

1539
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,200
>> And so we don't even have to post it. We

1540
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,680
just But it will be on like this is

1541
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,880
>> right

1542
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,800
>> almost finalized draft, right? It needs

1543
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,440
a little tweaking.

1544
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,040
>> Are you sending this to companies?

1545
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,720
>> So, we'll send it out. We'll be chasing

1546
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,000
folks down for this. Yeah.

1547
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,359
>> And you have a lead. You do have a lead

1548
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:02,240
from Mr. Keef.

1549
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:02,640
>> We do.

1550
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,319
>> For us, we do.

1551
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:05,839
>> Yeah. We have had some, you know, a

1552
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:08,240
couple of people in one group came in.

1553
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,640
We have yet to hear back from them who

1554
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,880
looked at all of the options, including

1555
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,920
replace.

1556
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,240
>> Um, separately. Last week, we put in,

1557
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:17,839
it's still being tweaked a little bit

1558
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:20,480
right now, uh, for basically a FEMA

1559
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,960
grant for the full replacement of the

1560
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,400
generator. We worked with CMRPC on that.

1561
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,160
um went in last week. It will be

1562
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,160
two years before that ultimately is

1563
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,920
realized, but there's a good shot at. So

1564
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,480
the repair really makes sense. Repair,

1565
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,960
replace of the generating piece. And

1566
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,920
this was crafted up for me by Jack

1567
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Granga, who actually is in the business.

1568
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,760
Okay. And I keep asking him if he would

1569
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,839
bid on this thing himself. Um but

1570
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:53,440
I'm not sure he wants to do that. He's

1571
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,440
our electrical inspector, but he's a

1572
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,000
generator expert, right? And so he did

1573
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,359
review, you know, he went in there,

1574
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:01,359
looked at the machine, and helped with

1575
00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:03,119
this based on the specs of what we're

1576
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:04,000
looking to do. So,

1577
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,359
>> perfect. Thank you. So, do you do you

1578
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:06,960
know when you'll have a final draft and

1579
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,599
ready to go?

1580
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:08,960
>> Yeah, I think we're going to try to get

1581
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,960
that out between now and next week.

1582
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,839
>> Now, when the school closes, do we know

1583
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:15,760
if they're returning the rental or if

1584
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,520
they're going to going to continue in

1585
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,280
>> I don't know that. I haven't I haven't

1586
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,160
heard. Is the reverberator tower still

1587
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,200
reliant on that backup generator or has

1588
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,440
that received its own backup generator?

1589
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,440
>> Oh, it is. So, that was part of this

1590
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,440
grant that we did for FEMA, right, to

1591
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,680
help sell it, if you will, right? Is

1592
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,200
that the new uh communication tower is

1593
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,800
dependent because it's hooked into the

1594
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,440
school electricity as is the fire

1595
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,240
department's 60,000galon

1596
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:47,200
water tank, fire suppression for the

1597
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:47,839
school.

1598
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:51,280
>> So, we can't really And I would assume

1599
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,599
we can't end that rental until we have a

1600
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:57,520
repair andor replacement.

1601
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,839
>> Just have to be aware that that's $5,000

1602
00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:00,960
per month.

1603
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,920
>> 6,000. Yeah.

1604
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,640
>> Yeah. Yeah. And it's Yeah. Mas is also

1605
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,319
our um

1606
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:08,400
>> emergency shelter for school and so

1607
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,319
therefore having water running and

1608
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:11,839
things of that sort if

1609
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:13,680
>> you know tornado, bad storm, trees,

1610
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,880
whatever, whatever.

1611
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,680
>> Yeah.

1612
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,359
>> So hopefully we'll get this sorted out

1613
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:18,960
and out there. So, this will go out in

1614
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,240
the next couple weeks.

1615
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,800
>> Yeah. Within the next week or two. Yep.

1616
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,520
>> All right.

1617
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,040
>> And would you mind sending me a link to

1618
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:25,920
this posting so I can

1619
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,640
>> I sure will.

1620
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,760
>> I just want to share with Dan. Make sure

1621
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,880
everybody's on on board.

1622
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,440
>> Yes.

1623
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,319
>> All right. Great.

1624
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:34,400
Departments. Uh Joe, do you have

1625
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,559
anything you want to add or you're good?

1626
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:38,960
>> I got nothing. You guys are good. Okay.

1627
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,280
Public forum. Don't all stand up at

1628
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,760
once.

1629
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,480
>> I know.

1630
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,960
>> Okay. Announcements.

1631
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,599
>> Uh just uh let's see. Library. Um,

1632
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,079
what's our date? The 15th. So, Wednesday

1633
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,640
this week, June 17th at 4:30 p.m.

1634
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,960
Creative Club at the library. Thursday,

1635
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,200
June 25th at 6:30 p.m. book club

1636
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,079
meeting. Saturday, June 27th,

1637
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,839
Renaissance Jazz Trio Concert. Um,

1638
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:08,480
senior center. Um, Thursday they have

1639
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,480
five wishes. Aging with dignity,

1640
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
advanced care planning, a lunch for

1641
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,760
three bucks, and a COA meeting. Um they

1642
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,160
have on Tuesdays line dance pitch and

1643
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,280
chair yoga hand knee and foot cards on

1644
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,000
next Wednesday. Uh next Thursday the

1645
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,960
25th they have a movie remark remarkably

1646
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,920
bright creatures lunch three bucks and

1647
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,400
June birthday celebrations. On Monday

1648
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,400
the 29th they have a craft class at

1649
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,920
10:00 a.m. And also on Tuesday besides

1650
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,440
line dance pitch is at 1:00 Tina's

1651
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,599
retirement party. Ah,

1652
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:44,000
>> so

1653
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,040
>> what was the date on the retirement

1654
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:45,440
party?

1655
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,760
>> That's the 30th,

1656
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,640
>> Tuesday.

1657
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,559
>> Okay,

1658
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:51,440
>> cool.

1659
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,640
>> All right.

1660
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,720
>> Um, correspondence.

1661
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,319
>> Yeah, I was already You had that in the

1662
00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:57,680
MSBA thing. Yep.

1663
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,640
>> Yeah. All right. Uh, minutes.

1664
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,520
>> Uh, I have I'm told three drafts coming

1665
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,119
quickly here, but I don't have them yet.

1666
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:05,760
Okay.

1667
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,079
>> Selectment reports.

1668
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:10,000
>> So, I just have a couple items. Uh, town

1669
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,240
report.

1670
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,640
booklet. Is that available online or

1671
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,280
>> only online?

1672
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,640
Okay. Thank you.

1673
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,440
>> Stop publishing it. Yeah.

1674
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,160
>> Took that Yeah. budget away.

1675
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,559
>> Um that $500.

1676
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:22,960
>> Yes.

1677
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,240
>> Yeah. Okay. Um

1678
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,040
also, um on Saturday, the library

1679
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,040
celebrated their 40th. Um you were

1680
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,000
there. I was there.

1681
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,280
>> I gave out a hug.

1682
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,200
>> Oh, well, you're better than me. I'm

1683
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,400
more like a cactus.

1684
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,000
>> Couple couple handshakes, but I did give

1685
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
out a hug. So, it was a very nice

1686
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,319
>> Yeah,

1687
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,200
>> very nice. It was a very nice event. Um

1688
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,920
they did a very nice job with it and

1689
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,319
it's nice to see that that department um

1690
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:50,240
and the dedication of those members over

1691
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,440
the years um how deep they go. So I was

1692
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,480
it was a great celebratory event um

1693
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,720
>> and it was well attended.

1694
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,559
Um also just on my part um over the next

1695
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:04,559
couple weeks month I'm going to just

1696
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:06,799
make myself available to be attending um

1697
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:08,720
board and department meetings. I'll be

1698
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,640
having um some office hours here at the

1699
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,359
town hall so that if any staff people

1700
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:15,280
want to just come to talk to me. If

1701
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,960
general public wants to talk to me, I'll

1702
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,480
have some hours here. I'll have some at

1703
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,480
the library. Um I've done this in the

1704
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,079
past. Sometimes I have people, sometimes

1705
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:23,680
I don't, but it's good that people have

1706
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,599
a place that they can go and talk face

1707
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,720
to face with someone. Um so I'll be

1708
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,640
putting those out and I'll let you know,

1709
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,720
too. Um but it's just something I've

1710
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,960
done in the past and I now that my

1711
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,400
school year is wrapping up and I have

1712
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400
some time on my plate. Um, I'll be

1713
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,160
putting those out there for people. So,

1714
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,319
that's it.

1715
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,880
>> Cool.

1716
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,520
>> Uh, town administrative report.

1717
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,440
>> You, you two are all set. You're all

1718
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,240
set. Yeah.

1719
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,000
>> Uh, the only thing I wanted to say is

1720
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,559
that in future meetings, I think we

1721
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:57,280
should reuse the podium again for people

1722
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,880
from the audience who want to come up

1723
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,920
and talk. I think that was a great way

1724
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,799
of doing things because at that point

1725
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:07,440
they always used to say their name which

1726
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,440
helps for people at home with continuity

1727
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,240
or anybody writing minutes and they

1728
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,920
could just say they live in town

1729
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,200
although they don't need to get into

1730
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,520
their full address or anything but that

1731
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,599
was my thought that we should implement

1732
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,559
that again so people start following

1733
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,280
better procedures instead of we've had

1734
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,960
some meetings where we have a number of

1735
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,480
people talking from the audience and

1736
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,760
they have really good points points

1737
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,200
they're trying to raise.

1738
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,200
>> I just I think people at home really

1739
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,119
need to hear it in detail.

1740
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,359
>> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. For this session here,

1741
00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:38,799
we didn't have any residents. So,

1742
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:40,960
>> no, not this time, but in the future,

1743
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,720
I'd like to do that. Would that be okay

1744
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,799
with the board? Does anybody object to

1745
00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:45,520
that?

1746
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,280
>> We can try it. I think

1747
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,359
>> sitting round table gives a a feel of

1748
00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:52,160
collaboration and equaleness and

1749
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,839
>> um it takes away a little bit of the

1750
00:59:53,839 --> 00:59:56,720
formality. Um, but I mean the old town

1751
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,920
hall, if we're back there and we're

1752
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,240
using the old selectman table, it comes

1753
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,000
with the podium. Um, and that's how you

1754
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,520
talk because you don't have this uh

1755
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,960
round table type thing. So,

1756
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,359
>> right,

1757
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:06,799
>> I don't have a problem trying it and

1758
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:08,000
seeing what the people who come to the

1759
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:08,720
meeting, what they like.

1760
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,599
>> Let's do it.

1761
01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:12,079
>> Okay, great.

1762
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,960
>> Um,

1763
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,040
so I had one thought on Jen's comment

1764
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,760
about office hours. just a procedural

1765
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,440
and I'm not opposed to the idea, but

1766
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,720
procedurally

1767
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,720
>> doesn't everything get routed through

1768
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,480
the town administrator and then from

1769
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,079
there doesn't the board direct the town

1770
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:29,359
administrator. So,

1771
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:31,200
>> well, how many times have you been

1772
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,119
contacted through somebody in town that

1773
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:34,640
says, "Hey, can you do something about

1774
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,319
this?" This just gives them a place to

1775
01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:37,200
do that.

1776
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,880
>> Those things are always followed up with

1777
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,720
an email and like I spoke to this person

1778
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,559
about this topic and blah blah blah. And

1779
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:44,480
those things do come back. It's not it's

1780
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400
just a manner of which to be able to sit

1781
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,839
and talk to people rather than being

1782
01:00:47,839 --> 01:00:50,559
caught at my kids, you know, school

1783
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,880
event or being caught at, you know, the

1784
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,960
library event to talk policy and

1785
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,880
procedure. It just gives an open space.

1786
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:02,640
>> Peter is the HR person for the staff and you you can't be fielding that kind

1787
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,240
of

1788
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,520
>> you you shouldn't that's pet I am I

1789
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,680
wrong Peter? I mean you are essential

1790
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,359
things.

1791
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:12,559
>> Yeah. I mean so

1792
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:13,839
>> why are you fielding that?

1793
01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:15,839
>> Yeah. So for procedural I

1794
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:17,680
>> asked

1795
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,720
um you should ref

1796
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,799
>> so the way I would they do come back

1797
01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:24,000
advise you is that you're going to

1798
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,640
readopt the policies and procedures and

1799
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,520
in that it's very clear how it works. So

1800
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,079
even if one of you is talking to a

1801
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:33,760
member of the staff

1802
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,680
>> you you can't direct them. You can

1803
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,839
respond to them but you still got to go

1804
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:40,079
through the town administrator right

1805
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:42,400
>> and keep the person informed. So I mean

1806
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,359
I would say that's

1807
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:45,520
>> a manner in which I go to them and I'm

1808
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,119
directing them. It's a manner in which

1809
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:48,720
if they feel comfortable with me that

1810
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,480
they can come and

1811
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:50,880
>> so

1812
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,520
>> let me know what's going on or or and

1813
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,640
then then I can act as a in between to

1814
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,720
bring that issue back to the forefront

1815
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,880
and deal with it without having staff

1816
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,640
people come to the front table before a

1817
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:03,680
whole board. Right.

1818
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,720
>> It really I mean it doesn't it's not it

1819
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,559
doesn't happen all the time but it does

1820
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:09,839
happen on occasion.

1821
01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:12,480
>> Yeah. I I just I mean I I I I get why

1822
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,240
you're doing that. I just procedurally I

1823
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,799
was thinking that that might enable some

1824
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:19,119
staff and maybe some bad behavior where

1825
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,280
Peter is trying to address it and I

1826
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,079
don't want to give folks

1827
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:23,599
>> that would be a conversation I would say

1828
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,240
I had or an email saying I had a

1829
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,440
conversation and I want to do some

1830
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,960
followup on this topic

1831
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,640
>> just as I would with a a resident

1832
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,799
complaint which I have one

1833
01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:34,319
>> because I was caught at the library

1834
01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:35,839
event.

1835
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:41,040
So um so yeah it's just

1836
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,720
I'm not going to apologize for putting

1837
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,280
myself out there and having people have

1838
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,280
access to a selectman.

1839
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,319
>> Well, I was just questioning the

1840
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:50,000
procedurally, you know, the structure of

1841
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,799
having that.

1842
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:52,559
>> It's not like I'm making commitments.

1843
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:54,559
I'm just being there for an ear.

1844
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:56,160
>> No, I again, I was just asking

1845
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,559
procedurally how functions I've actually

1846
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:00,480
said, oh, there's mass general law or

1847
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,640
there's a town bylaw for that. So,

1848
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,400
really, we're within the

1849
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,480
>> it's within it. So before there's a

1850
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,119
complaint by a resident, they're already

1851
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:11,200
given the information, which I would do

1852
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,720
anyways. If they called me, if they

1853
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,920
caught me on the street, those are

1854
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,520
things I would do anyways and point them

1855
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,200
in the right direction.

1856
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,559
>> So it's not that I'm out there looking

1857
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,319
to tell people what to do. I'm actually

1858
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:25,119
there just to listen.

1859
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:28,000
>> So yeah, I was just asking procedurally.

1860
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,119
So items not reasonably anticipated 48

1861
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:32,000
hours prior to the meeting.

1862
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,280
>> I didn't do the town administrator

1863
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:33,839
report.

1864
01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:34,960
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, I skipped right

1865
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,000
over you. I got so excited.

1866
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,000
>> All I have is one item. Okay. I had a

1867
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,079
metacomt meeting this morning. All

1868
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:41,440
right.

1869
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,000
>> And uh we met with the SEMR board as

1870
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,400
well. So the metacomt board, Semre board

1871
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,200
met

1872
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,799
>> and approved um a joint executive

1873
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:52,640
director. So the executive director of

1874
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,200
SER will also serve as the executive

1875
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,680
director of Metacama.

1876
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,319
all with the intent and they an IMA an

1877
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:02,799
intermunicipal agreement was executed

1878
01:04:02,799 --> 01:04:04,000
for that

1879
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,280
>> executive director. Um and the goal is

1880
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,079
to lead towards merger of the two

1881
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:12,160
entities which as I might have described

1882
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,599
in the past will likely result in lower

1883
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:19,839
cost to Millville for um you know

1884
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:22,799
continuing dispatch services. So that's

1885
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:25,119
really the goal that everybody wants to

1886
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,359
do. Makes good sense. the executive

1887
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:30,000
director right now, you know, they've

1888
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,160
got this uh World Cup stuff going on.

1889
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,839
So, they're very busy over there. So,

1890
01:04:33,839 --> 01:04:36,000
his term wouldn't start probably until a

1891
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,760
August 1.

1892
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,280
>> And hope that was approved today.

1893
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,280
>> Hope not a reduction in service. Yeah.

1894
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,000
>> No, that's right. And um I'm not I

1895
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,400
wasn't a voting member today, but I I am

1896
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,000
allowed to ask questions, which I do. Um

1897
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,000
but starting July 1st, I become the

1898
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,079
voting member for Amended Millville.

1899
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,039
>> That sounds like fun. Oh, there you go.

1900
01:04:57,039 --> 01:04:58,559
>> Okay.

1901
01:04:58,559 --> 01:04:59,760
All right. Items not reasonably

1902
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:00,880
anticipated.

1903
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:01,839
>> Nothing.

1904
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:03,440
>> All right. We're going to have a next

1905
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,079
regular meeting Monday, July 13th, 2026

1906
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:09,200
at 6 p.m. Unless we squeeze one in

1907
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,880
before then, but we don't anticipate it.

1908
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,319
>> I don't think you need to. Right.

1909
01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:13,599
>> Okay.

1910
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:15,440
>> Um,

1911
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,920
yeah. All right. Um, and this typically

1912
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,720
is around vacation time, so any

1913
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,440
potential.

1914
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,599
>> So, there could be remote by some,

1915
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:24,640
right?

1916
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960
>> Okay.

1917
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,280
All right, just food for thought since

1918
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,280
uh yeah, we're here. Uh oh, let's enter

1919
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:37,510
an executive session by roll call.

1920
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,200
All right. I move that the board of

1921
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,720
selectman enter an executive session per

1922
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,799
mass general law chapter 38 subsection

1923
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:45,520
21 A3 to discuss strategy relative to

1924
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,200
litigation where discussion of these

1925
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,559
matters in open session would have a

1926
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:50,240
detrimental effect on the litigating

1927
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,160
position of the town. I move that the

1928
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,520
board of selectman enter an executive

1929
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,599
session per mass general law chapter 30A

1930
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,240
subsection 2182 to discuss strategy

1931
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,079
sessions in preparation for negotiation

1932
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:02,720
with non-union personnel or to conduct

1933
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,480
collective bargaining sessions or

1934
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,319
contract negotiations with non-UN

1935
01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:08,319
personnel and C move the board of

1936
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:09,599
selectment enter an executive session

1937
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,119
per master journal law chapter 38

1938
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:14,160
subsection A21A3 to discuss strategy

1939
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,920
with respect to collective bargaining or

1940
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,839
litigation if an open meeting may have a

1941
01:06:17,839 --> 01:06:19,839
detrimental effect on the bargaining or

1942
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:21,599
litigating position of the town and the

1943
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:24,559
chair so declares teams union local 170

1944
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:26,640
police highway returning to open meeting

1945
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,119
only to adjourn looking for a second

1946
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,760
>> second and we'll take a vote Kristen I

1947
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,520
>> I Jen I

1948
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,119
>> All right you don't have to go