[0:00] All
[0:02] right, I'll call this meeting of the
[0:03] board of selectment to order. It's 601.
[0:05] We'll start with the pledge of
[0:06] >> allegiance.
[0:10] Algiance to the flag of the United
[0:12] States of America and to the republic
[0:15] for which it stands, one nation under
[0:18] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:21] justice for all.
[0:24] >> All right.
[0:25] Um
[0:27] >> well it seems that uh the person I was
[0:30] expecting isn't quite here. So
[0:32] >> Oh, I'd just like to take a quick moment
[0:33] to tell the people at home the reason I
[0:36] wasn't at the last two meetings is
[0:38] because I had a very sick family member
[0:40] and they needed medical intervention. So
[0:43] I apologize for that and uh I we will
[0:47] address some of the issues at those
[0:48] meetings another time. Thank you.
[0:50] >> And we are short Rachel and Joe. So
[0:53] >> we are unfortunately
[0:54] >> we are going to do a little bit of an a
[0:56] bridge version but anyways
[0:58] uh you want to hop right into new
[1:00] business Peter what do you think
[1:02] >> right so
[1:03] >> do appointments
[1:04] >> you'll have appointments at your next
[1:05] meeting everybody remains in holdover
[1:07] status but what you do have in front of
[1:09] you are the recommended appointments for
[1:11] the police department if you want to
[1:13] deal with those this evening and their
[1:16] three and one-year terms of the
[1:19] individuals uh put forth by chief cooper
[1:22] So, I see nothing here surprising and I
[1:24] would be comfortable making the
[1:25] appointment.
[1:28] >> Um, the only thing I'm curious on, you
[1:31] know, is
[1:34] during the their last appointments, what
[1:37] kind of um
[1:40] different classes have they taken,
[1:42] certifications have they gotten? I I
[1:44] just would like to know a little bit
[1:45] more. That would be great.
[1:50] You want to table that till the next uh
[1:52] meeting. And
[1:53] >> I don't have a problem with I I trust
[1:56] Chief Coup's um
[1:58] >> we can
[1:59] >> professionalism and being a department
[2:00] head and I think if there was anything
[2:02] that was a flag he would have addressed
[2:05] it or held their appointment. So
[2:06] >> So just for clarification too I think
[2:08] the fire is um because we have a strong
[2:10] chief these are already appointed.
[2:12] They're already appointed. This is more
[2:13] of a formality.
[2:15] >> Correct. So this this we can just kind
[2:17] of take a vote and and recommend or
[2:19] appoint. I mean we're not really
[2:20] appointing anybody. So
[2:21] >> just continue on.
[2:23] >> You would be appointing the police.
[2:25] >> No, I know,
[2:25] >> but you're not appointing the fire
[2:27] department.
[2:27] >> I was just taking the easy one off the
[2:29] table by saying that one's kind of a
[2:30] given. So
[2:32] >> I um we we can ask is certifications
[2:34] pertaining to post or
[2:37] >> Yeah. uh cons well concerning everything
[2:39] with the police department because I
[2:41] know there were some issues where
[2:42] certifications for all staff had or most
[2:46] of the staff even the chief had fallen
[2:48] out of compliance at one point in very
[2:50] recent history and um I just want to
[2:53] know that everybody is all set and just
[2:56] I know faith is a great thing but fact
[2:59] is better.
[3:01] >> Did you have a conversation with the
[3:02] chief on these appointments?
[3:05] uh just that he's recommending these and
[3:07] it's the team that he's got and uh I
[3:09] didn't get into what Kristen's
[3:11] >> and this isn't the whole team, but I
[3:12] mean the names I recognize on here are
[3:14] usually pretty good. So
[3:17] >> yeah.
[3:22] » So can I can I make a motion? Are you
[3:24] comfortable or do you want to hold?
[3:25] >> I'm I'm not, but that's you're the
[3:28] chair.
[3:29] >> So if we hold it, it just goes into hold
[3:30] over status.
[3:31] >> Yes.
[3:32] >> For next meeting.
[3:33] >> Yeah. Agenda, are you comfortable?
[3:35] >> I'm comfortable voting. Yep.
[3:37] >> All right. I'm I'm going to make the
[3:38] motion to appoint. Do we have to
[3:41] announce the names? How do you want to
[3:42] do this? Can we just
[3:43] >> Patrolman Keith Lanigan, three-year term
[3:45] expiring 2029. Patrolman Mark Morris,
[3:49] three-year term expiring in 2029.
[3:51] Patrolman Jonathan Schuman, one-year
[3:53] term expiring 2027. Patrolman Edward
[3:56] Delarm, one-year term expiring 2027.
[3:59] Patrolman Paul Gurin, one-year term
[4:02] expiring 2027. Patrolman Henry uh
[4:04] Politakis, one-year term expiring 2027.
[4:07] Uh my apologies for hacking those names
[4:09] if any of those are misspoken. Looking
[4:11] for a second.
[4:12] >> Second.
[4:13] >> Take a vote.
[4:15] >> Nay.
[4:16] >> I
[4:17] >> Okay, so that passes two to one.
[4:19] >> And if for any reason something is out
[4:21] of compliance that they would be
[4:23] >> Well, no.
[4:24] >> Yeah. Well, I'm just saying the chief
[4:26] would remove them from schedule until
[4:27] those things are cleared up. didn't
[4:29] happen in the past
[4:30] >> at all.
[4:31] >> So, Peter, would you mind just circling
[4:32] back with the chief?
[4:33] >> I sure will.
[4:33] >> Okay, I sure will.
[4:34] >> Um, and do you need a motion um for
[4:36] these folks in the fire department or is
[4:38] this information you're comfortable?
[4:39] >> Just information.
[4:40] >> So, we're done with this.
[4:40] >> Okay, great.
[4:41] >> Okay.
[4:43] Consideration approval of the one day
[4:44] liquor license for Earth Ltd. So, we got
[4:47] to take a vote on this, didn't we?
[4:49] >> No, that's this a separate date. It's a
[4:51] one-day liquor license for a separate
[4:52] date July 2nd. All the same materials
[4:55] have been updated. So, the one I signed
[4:57] this morning was the 11th,
[4:58] >> like the 15th or 11th, something like
[5:01] that.
[5:01] >> Okay. This is a second. Okay.
[5:02] >> Yes.
[5:04] >> And uh they provide certifications. I
[5:06] went through the paperwork.
[5:07] >> Yes. It's all
[5:08] >> I'm comfortable.
[5:09] >> Same as last time. Yeah.
[5:10] >> Yep.
[5:11] >> Make a motion to approve the um one day
[5:13] liquor license for Earth LTV on July
[5:17] 2nd, 2026.
[5:19] >> Second.
[5:19] >> I'll give it to you. No,
[5:20] >> I'll second that motion.
[5:21] >> I'll take a vote. Kristen
[5:22] >> I Jen
[5:24] >> I
[5:24] >> There we go. So, we can sign that.
[5:27] >> Okay.
[5:32] » All three of you might as well sign it.
[5:34] >> And uh I'm going to print because I have
[5:35] a doctor signature. I only play one on
[5:38] TV.
[5:40] >> Okay.
[5:47] » Are you going to table approvals or do
[5:49] we have to do that?
[5:49] >> Yes, I have nothing further on that. Um,
[5:52] so that would be the last date to do it
[5:53] is your your July 13th meeting if there
[5:56] are any.
[5:57] >> So there's none at this time.
[5:59] >> There are none at this time.
[6:00] >> Okay.
[6:01] >> Um, I was thinking we would table the
[6:02] BOS policies and procedures.
[6:04] >> Okay.
[6:04] >> So we have a full board.
[6:06] >> Mhm.
[6:07] >> Was that a split that I provided good?
[6:10] And you know you wanted a I'm just doing
[6:12] 1 through 11. So the
[6:15] >> it was ma very manageable.
[6:17] >> Okay. Good.
[6:18] >> What is this 1 through 11? of the uh of
[6:20] the bylaws p sorry policy and procedures
[6:23] policy just so you're not doing all of
[6:25] them at once.
[6:26] >> Yep. So we review one through 11 then
[6:28] we'll talk about it. We'll come back
[6:29] with a full board.
[6:30] >> Oh that would be lovely because I have
[6:31] some notes on that and I'd love to
[6:33] share.
[6:34] >> Sure. So we'll talk about 1 through 11
[6:35] and uh we'll table it for this.
[6:37] >> That sounds fantastic.
[6:40] >> Um
[6:41] >> oh business uh mees water status update.
[6:46] So, I have an update from James Lions
[6:50] from D. Um, I talked to him last week
[6:54] and Mass D issued activation approval to
[6:57] activate and start pilot testing as we
[7:00] know and that was on 220 of 26. Uh, the
[7:03] treatment addition included total
[7:05] organic carbon removal of the PFAS
[7:08] removal. uh the system was put into
[7:11] service and the consultant and operator
[7:13] Mccclure engineering started collecting
[7:15] data. Now we don't have the most recent
[7:18] data report that's been compiled per the
[7:21] last time I talked to James. So we are
[7:24] just waiting you know the data has been
[7:26] collected. It just hasn't been compiled
[7:28] completely yet and we should get that I
[7:31] would assume in the next week maybe
[7:33] slightly. Uh on 414 of course everybody
[7:37] knows the consultant Mccclure
[7:39] Engineering sent an email indicating
[7:42] they intended to lower the chlorine
[7:44] levels going into the green sand filters
[7:46] in order to try to reduce the formation
[7:48] of disinfection byproducts. We the D
[7:52] responded by stating that they had
[7:55] concerns about lowering the chlorine
[7:56] levels as this has a historically caused
[7:59] iron and manganese removal filters to
[8:02] not work properly. Uh water becomes
[8:04] discolored.
[8:06] Uh D asked that they please contact the
[8:09] manufacturer of the total organic carbon
[8:11] uh remove a filter system and see if it
[8:14] may be possible to relocate this filter
[8:16] to before the point of disinfection and
[8:19] add a prefilter to pro to protect the
[8:22] TOC.
[8:24] And that filter if it's protected
[8:27] there's reason for the request that the
[8:29] TOC is traditionally removed before the
[8:31] water is disinfected as the TOC and the
[8:34] chlorine are what cause the formation of
[8:37] disinfection byproducts. the minimal
[8:40] amount of pilot data that they have
[8:42] received show that disinfection
[8:44] byproducts were forming immediately
[8:46] after disinfection and that the current
[8:48] location of TOC filter downstream of
[8:51] disinfection was not adequately reducing
[8:53] the disinfection byproducts. this issue
[8:56] was raised in the permit process that
[8:59] they um had sent to the manufacturer of
[9:03] the TOC filter but the consultant
[9:06] indicated that the filter manufacturer
[9:08] was confident this setup would work. So
[9:10] they did ask that once the consultant
[9:13] had discussed the issue with the TOC
[9:16] filter manufacturer to please reach out
[9:18] to their office to discuss. uh they have
[9:21] received no response for that and they
[9:24] have followed up on different occasions
[9:26] with that. So I think where we're at now
[9:29] is they're not receiving breakthrough.
[9:32] Uh they are receiving a little bit of
[9:34] that chlorination. Um but these are not
[9:37] uh nothing seems to be bad levels at
[9:40] this point. A lot of the issues are
[9:42] resolved. M
[9:45] >> I talked to James a little bit about the
[9:47] prospect long term and it seems that
[9:51] everybody's of the same mind that
[9:53] long-term we probably would switch to
[9:56] just drilling a new well and that's
[9:59] something that in my opinion I think the
[10:00] board should deeply consider uh we do
[10:03] have that grant and funding in place. we
[10:07] might want to get ahead of this
[10:09] >> and I I think we do have town land if
[10:11] we're still own it that's abuing that
[10:13] property and in that area there's
[10:17] historically to the best of my knowledge
[10:18] no no no information that I've ever
[10:21] heard of where those wells had issues um
[10:25] we could work with the D and site that
[10:28] property I talked to James would that be
[10:30] a possibility he said absolutely and
[10:33] that you know we have that grant in
[10:34] process and that may be something that
[10:36] town of Millville should consider
[10:40] >> and we have to write a scope of work for
[10:41] that and go with the bid even though
[10:42] it's a grant right
[10:44] >> well it's grant is funding it there's
[10:46] plenty of money to do that well and
[10:48] Mccclure has
[10:50] >> been communicating with D on that
[10:53] process and the commencement of that
[10:56] process because they think you know that
[10:58] they're still going back and forth as
[11:00] Kristen say on says on
[11:02] >> where to locate the TOC filter versus
[11:05] where They have it today. They have not
[11:08] had I've not had to issue any
[11:11] non-compliance
[11:13] uh report so far, but uh because they've
[11:16] been managing it for the you know the
[11:19] water that's ultimately coming out of
[11:21] the system. Under the pilot study, they
[11:24] do test the water at different other
[11:26] spots within the system
[11:28] >> and it indic you know it may indicate
[11:30] that they've exceeded an MCL within but
[11:33] it's then treated before it goes out
[11:34] into the
[11:35] >> correct. So as it comes into the green
[11:38] uh pardon me the sand filters and then
[11:40] it goes to the green sand filter there
[11:42] is a point of testing before the first
[11:44] green sand filter. Then between the next
[11:47] that green sand filter and the next
[11:49] there's another point of testing. And
[11:51] then finally at the end of both green
[11:54] sand filters there's a third point of
[11:56] testing. So when you have breakthrough
[11:59] through the first filter if it were to
[12:00] occur it would be in that middle testing
[12:03] site and you'd be able to discern that
[12:05] prior to exceeding the capacity of the
[12:08] second green sand filter. So you would
[12:10] never get a breach within the system and
[12:13] you'd never get full breakthrough that
[12:15] would come to the tap water. And so
[12:17] that's the logic behind all that
[12:19] testing.
[12:19] >> So by overcllorinating though, don't you
[12:21] place the green sand in jeopardy? You
[12:23] have to change it.
[12:24] >> You do. So that what James was speaking
[12:26] of is to put the initial chloration
[12:30] really before the first sand filters be
[12:34] well before the green sand filters. So
[12:37] um that would actually stop and start
[12:39] Those sand filters would help break up
[12:42] some of the chlorination. They do the
[12:43] job. They capture some of that
[12:45] chlorination, reduce the amount that
[12:48] travels downstream to the green sand
[12:50] filters, making them more effective and
[12:52] less problems on the outside.
[12:54] >> All right. And the last quarter last
[12:56] quarter was passing, Peter.
[12:58] >> Yeah. I've not had to issue any reports
[13:00] and they tell me pretty quickly when
[13:01] it's time.
[13:02] >> Okay.
[13:02] >> So, we're we're still good.
[13:04] >> I don't have any more questions. You
[13:06] good?
[13:06] >> Yeah.
[13:07] >> All right.
[13:08] uh high school update. You want to table
[13:10] that since Rachel's not here or unless
[13:11] you have an update.
[13:12] >> She did give me an update, right? Um so
[13:14] I I'm happy to read that. Pretty pretty
[13:17] good one. Um she said that there, you
[13:19] know, they at their last meeting of the
[13:21] school building committee, there was
[13:23] more refining of the building design
[13:25] with some more solid estimates. They're
[13:27] looking at 154 million for construction
[13:30] hard costs for the project. Those costs
[13:33] do not include the soft costs, and she
[13:36] mentions furniture, legal fees, and
[13:38] consulting fees. There's also a look at
[13:40] add-ons and alternate addition costs,
[13:44] including a separate out building with
[13:46] bathrooms, lockers, and concessions that
[13:48] would cost 2.3 million. Football
[13:51] bleachers at 600K, sports lighting at
[13:54] 1.8 million. And those costs would have
[13:56] to be funded completely by the towns. It
[13:59] would not be covered under the MSBA
[14:00] grant. The um 154 does not include a
[14:04] contingency and typically that would be
[14:06] around 10% or an additional 15 million.
[14:09] The uh range of MSBA reimbursement on
[14:12] those costs that are covered by them
[14:15] would be around 59 to 65%.
[14:18] Again, not on the total cost of the
[14:20] project. They'll cover about 130,000
[14:23] square feet of the building, but
[14:24] currently the proposed building is at
[14:26] 151,000 square feet. So there's 21,000
[14:30] square feet outside of the MSBA funding.
[14:34] >> Um, and one of the reasons uh largely
[14:37] due to uh having the seventh grade
[14:39] academic wing, which reportedly the
[14:42] teachers weren't in favor of the 7 to 12
[14:45] grade design. They're more in favor of
[14:47] the 8 to 12 and Rachel wanted that to be
[14:49] mentioned.
[14:50] >> Um, they're looking to have a vote in
[14:53] November on the ballot. I I believe it
[14:55] also has to be at a special town
[14:57] meeting. Right. Um, and there's another
[15:01] meeting this coming Wednesday,
[15:03] uh, 5:00 pm, and the school building
[15:06] committee will be voting to submit the
[15:08] current design package for the MSBA. I
[15:10] did ask Rachel if there was any estimate
[15:13] of cost per 100K. They that's still not
[15:16] available. So, uh, you know, 100K
[15:19] evaluation, if you will.
[15:20] >> Cool. So,
[15:21] >> you kind of have to have your schematic
[15:24] >> schematic. Thank you. schematic design
[15:26] um approved and that's what's going for
[15:28] them and then that will drive the next
[15:30] those will drive the numbers
[15:32] >> um so to put numbers out there it they
[15:35] could change and that they want the
[15:36] information that goes out there to be
[15:38] the accurate um information and so the
[15:41] >> the ballot because you have to vote at
[15:43] town meeting and on ballot because both
[15:45] towns obviously it's a state election
[15:47] >> to get it on the ballot they know the
[15:49] deadlines they know the information um
[15:51] they'll work with the town clerks to get
[15:53] it so that a separate separate election
[15:56] doesn't need to be held um in both
[15:59] communities.
[15:59] >> Great.
[16:00] >> So speaking of that, actually squirrel
[16:01] moment here. Um June 30th, the
[16:04] appointment for the town clerk was until
[16:05] that point and we don't have a meeting
[16:06] between now and then. So
[16:08] >> So she would be in holdover status and
[16:11] she would be returning
[16:14] her note that says she wants to be
[16:16] appointed. Okay. So she plans to okay
[16:18] >> seek reappointment by you. Um, and so
[16:21] all of the parties are in holdover
[16:24] status. It's taken a while to get all
[16:26] the records coordinated so that letters
[16:28] could go out. They went out last week to
[16:30] ask folks if they want to re-up and then
[16:33] from there you'll see a schedule that
[16:35] says okay so and so to be reappointed.
[16:37] >> I said want to be left without a town
[16:38] clerk.
[16:38] >> No, we won't. And uh part of the
[16:40] negotiation of
[16:43] her includes the the space in the old
[16:46] town hall that we'll be
[16:48] >> she'll be getting.
[16:50] >> Ah okay.
[16:51] >> Okay.
[16:52] >> Uh the essentials office.
[16:54] >> Yes.
[16:56] >> All right.
[16:57] Uh old town hall repair reuse. So before
[17:00] that I also had you have in there the
[17:02] MSBA letter sorry
[17:04] >> has information on this uh regarding the
[17:07] um Maloney school which is being taken
[17:09] out of service for educational purposes
[17:12] by the town of Blackstone. And so what's
[17:16] left is some amount of funding due back
[17:19] to MSBA uh 27,000 approximately. Right.
[17:23] And what MSBA in this letter that's in
[17:25] your packets is saying that they would
[17:28] add that cost or they would reduce the
[17:31] amount that they would reimburse on the
[17:33] high school project. So the only thing I
[17:35] would point out is the 207 is a
[17:39] Blackstone cost
[17:40] >> but by reducing the reimbursement on the
[17:43] high school project it then becomes a
[17:46] reduction in reimbursement for Milville.
[17:48] So Mil Mill would be paying for
[17:50] >> indirectly
[17:51] >> 25% of that cost indirectly.
[17:53] >> So indirectly. Yeah.
[17:54] >> So that's something to think about how
[17:56] you want to
[17:57] >> maybe consider dealing with that.
[18:00] >> I think we definitely have to.
[18:01] >> Yes.
[18:02] >> We we should talk about it. Yeah. I I
[18:04] thought
[18:04] >> we owe zero
[18:05] >> correct
[18:06] >> is what we owe. And so we're not going
[18:07] to owe a third of or a quarter of
[18:10] >> 207.
[18:11] >> Yeah. 207. So that's going to have to be
[18:13] a conversation we have with the district
[18:15] in Blackstone.
[18:16] >> Yeah. What is their logic behind us
[18:18] owing a quarter
[18:20] of of that? It
[18:22] >> Well, they're just using, you know, in
[18:24] other words, MSBA says, "Okay, the
[18:26] district owes us this back."
[18:27] >> Sure.
[18:28] >> And I think they're the way they look
[18:30] must look at is independent of the lease
[18:32] agreements the town ha each town has.
[18:35] Okay.
[18:35] >> For the buildings each town owns, which
[18:37] would be the elementary schools. So,
[18:39] >> they may not be aware of that fact.
[18:42] >> Yeah. that those buildings were owned
[18:44] separately and and drived separately
[18:46] prior to our joint agreement. And so,
[18:48] yeah,
[18:48] >> even though the school takes out the
[18:50] loan
[18:51] >> through MSBA,
[18:53] >> um it's kind of within the community
[18:56] that it's housed in is is paying that
[18:58] loan back
[18:59] >> loan holders. Yeah.
[19:00] >> Um so, when I say a quarter to a third,
[19:03] that's our enrollment. That's our piece
[19:05] of the budget.
[19:06] >> I figured that's where that number. So
[19:07] when I say like I mean really this is
[19:09] Blackstone's loan that that the school
[19:12] manages through MSBA.
[19:14] >> Yeah.
[19:14] >> But we we our name besides being part of
[19:17] the regional district shouldn't be on
[19:18] there.
[19:19] >> Right.
[19:19] >> Yeah. I was hoping to have a guest star
[19:21] tonight to at least clarify some of
[19:23] those points but we didn't have
[19:25] somebody. So but my understanding was
[19:28] the initial costs were not going to be
[19:30] uh formed by Milville. But if they're
[19:32] going to be in effect in an indirect
[19:34] way, then
[19:35] >> out of
[19:36] >> we need to have further discussions.
[19:37] Yeah.
[19:38] >> Yep.
[19:38] >> So, I just want to point that out from
[19:40] that.
[19:40] >> I again I thought we'd have some
[19:42] clarification, but maybe at a future
[19:44] meeting.
[19:45] >> Okay.
[19:47] >> All right. So, we've uh we've killed
[19:49] that for now.
[19:50] >> Town hall.
[19:51] Yeah.
[19:52] >> Let's talk about that.
[19:54] >> Yeah.
[19:54] >> Town hall. Yeah. So, uh
[19:56] >> the assessor's office.
[19:58] >> I'm sorry.
[19:59] >> He yelled something about the assessor
[20:00] office. office. The first I heard about
[20:02] that information.
[20:03] >> Yeah. The first he's hearing about cuz I
[20:05] was just going to ask um if the people
[20:08] everyone who has space, are they getting
[20:10] equal space at the next place? Cuz you
[20:13] get accustomed to what you're living in.
[20:15] Yeah. And
[20:16] >> and so is everybody's space equal? Like
[20:20] >> I think there's a planagram, right? That
[20:22] >> Yeah. So we've been working through
[20:24] that, right? And it's still in a bit of
[20:26] flux. And so we've had movers come in
[20:29] and remove.
[20:32] There's my guest star.
[20:34] >> Do you want to do you want to backtrack
[20:36] real quick or
[20:37] >> do you mind
[20:38] >> before we open that discussion? Hey Dan,
[20:40] >> Mr. Keith, do you mind coming up? I I
[20:41] was holding this for you. So
[20:44] >> we were hoping to just clarify uh the
[20:48] JFK Maloney School. Um
[20:50] >> Yes.
[20:51] >> And so before you walked in, Peter was
[20:54] um just telling me uh I'm Russell.
[20:57] >> No, you win.
[20:59] >> You'd win.
[21:00] >> So, our understanding is that the
[21:01] initial cost would be worn by
[21:03] Blackstone, but that there may be an
[21:04] impact to the MSBA loan.
[21:06] >> So, I just shared that letter that's in
[21:07] the board's packet, right?
[21:09] >> Yes. What you received and the MSBA was
[21:11] so No. Yes. The letter is accurate. So,
[21:14] the town of Blackstone's full intent
[21:17] is to pay that off.
[21:18] >> So, it had no effect on the upcoming
[21:21] >> school project.
[21:22] >> Yes.
[21:22] >> So, you're going to pay that in front.
[21:24] Okay.
[21:24] >> Yeah. That was part of the town meeting
[21:25] vote on the 1.5 million.
[21:27] >> Yeah.
[21:28] >> Okay.
[21:29] I thought that was kind of the case, but
[21:31] I I was hoping you could clarify that,
[21:32] but then when Peter presented that, I
[21:34] wasn't sure. So,
[21:34] >> yeah. So, and so article I think it was
[21:36] articles 8, nine, and 10 or somewhere
[21:38] around there. So, those are all town
[21:40] articles and those were all re and so I
[21:43] know that may have been Mr. Finn was a
[21:45] little concerned that I was speaking on
[21:46] behalf of the district. That was
[21:48] completely all town related. So, when I
[21:50] said we will be would be on the hook, I
[21:52] meant the town of Blackstone. It's tough
[21:53] when you have many hats.
[21:54] >> Well, yeah. I was figured it would be
[21:57] pretty clear that we was a town meeting.
[21:59] >> Yeah. In
[22:00] >> Blackstone Town related, but Yeah.
[22:01] >> Yeah. So, and it's been it's been um
[22:04] stated plenty of times in the uh select
[22:07] men's meeting in Blackstone and in the
[22:09] school committee that the town's
[22:11] >> burden alone.
[22:12] >> Okay.
[22:13] >> Yeah. And so there's no um so we did get
[22:17] the uh our payoff on it just while while
[22:19] I'm here. Uh the town's payoff on the
[22:22] MSBA portion is 26,000.
[22:24] >> Okay.
[22:25] >> And we had 129,000
[22:28] uh left over the next up until 2029
[22:32] anyhow to pay. So that was it's all so
[22:34] it's all covered.
[22:35] >> Gotcha. Okay.
[22:36] >> So we're waiting on the next steps to
[22:39] hear back from MSBA. Then this will go
[22:42] still goes in front of the school
[22:43] committee and things like that. So the
[22:45] town meeting and vote is essentially to
[22:46] get all the provisions in place. The
[22:48] first two articles were legal ease of
[22:50] removing it from the lease part and the
[22:53] second part was
[22:56] um well first one I think was separating
[22:58] the building. Second part was removing
[23:00] that portion of it from the lease.
[23:02] >> Okay.
[23:02] >> And the third part was for funding for
[23:05] retrofitting.
[23:07] >> Makes that makes sense to me. Anybody
[23:09] have any questions about that?
[23:10] >> No.
[23:10] >> And it's going to be paid off before the
[23:12] um school building project goes forward.
[23:15] >> Yes. Yes. So he doesn't have any however
[23:18] we would like to pay it off. However,
[23:20] the MSBA sets it up, but we're very
[23:23] clear that so
[23:25] the superintendent is setting up is
[23:27] attempting to set up a call. So we have
[23:30] to respond. I think it in the letter is
[23:31] June 25th and
[23:33] >> and so the superintendent has a response
[23:37] ready
[23:38] >> um that it has no impact on the current
[23:42] um ongoing building proposal. uh for the
[23:46] high school.
[23:48] Um it's just a matter of
[23:51] the um technicality of how how we pay it
[23:54] off. We will the town of Blackstoneone
[23:57] can pay that off um as of June 1, July
[24:00] 1st. It's we have authorization to pay
[24:03] that off as of July 1st. I think the
[24:05] date on that was for July 5th. The the
[24:07] actually the payoff
[24:10] amount is from July 15, 2025.
[24:14] H
[24:15] number so they went back to last July
[24:18] and we're not debating that because that
[24:20] building was empty in July 15th of 2025.
[24:24] So we're not argu we it came in under
[24:27] what we expected for the payoff anyhow.
[24:29] So,
[24:30] >> and moving forward, um we'll have
[24:32] conversations
[24:34] um
[24:36] based on this, you know, based on the
[24:37] square footage because there's heating
[24:40] and um electrical costs that Milville
[24:43] pays a portion to through the district
[24:45] that we want to make sure that Milville
[24:47] is not paying
[24:49] >> at all, you know, and that's the town of
[24:50] Blackstone doesn't want we own we'll own
[24:53] that that obligation. So it may start
[24:56] off as
[24:58] a base with an agreement with the town
[25:00] of Milville based on a formula of square
[25:02] footage until we can get some type of
[25:03] meat because unfortunately there's not two electrical meters
[25:07] there's one
[25:07] >> separation is not clean.
[25:09] >> Yeah and and and so but we will ensure
[25:12] that
[25:13] >> can you submeter that? I so we are
[25:16] looking into that now um
[25:18] >> to get a better um uh reading on I guess
[25:24] without anything else the fairest way is
[25:26] like what's the building operating under
[25:28] based on square footage we've taken this
[25:31] square footage back
[25:32] >> but we'll we'll try to quickly get a um
[25:35] >> yeah if you separate the if you can see
[25:37] the separation of the services before it
[25:39] enters the main you can just put a
[25:41] submeter on that and those will
[25:43] digitally calculate
[25:45] you know, in real time. So, we're
[25:47] actually separated instead of because
[25:49] you could use more power one place or
[25:51] the other and and that would be then
[25:53] offset by us paying, you know, by
[25:57] percentage of square foot instead. This
[25:59] would be a true separation through
[26:00] submarine.
[26:01] >> That's the goal.
[26:01] >> Yeah, I like that.
[26:02] >> And yes, that was one of the first
[26:04] things uh we looked into as well as um
[26:09] >> the um you know, some of it some of
[26:11] those rooms will have mini splits and
[26:13] things like that. So we'll be offsetting
[26:14] even the the the heating system coming
[26:17] in. So but in in the meanwhile we I my
[26:22] thought and I think I may have mentioned
[26:24] this to you is um whatever that offset
[26:27] is that Blackstone is paying I'd like
[26:30] the town of Milville to see that monthly
[26:32] or whatever when the bills are being
[26:33] paid so that you see that you're not
[26:35] paying uh that that that cost is being
[26:38] borne by the entirely by the town of
[26:40] Blackstone.
[26:40] >> That' be great. Thank you.
[26:41] >> That's great to have clarity. Thank you
[26:43] for that. That's that's really being
[26:45] upfront. Thank you.
[26:46] >> Thank you for swinging by unless Okay.
[26:47] Hate making you come all this way.
[26:48] Unless you have anything else you want
[26:49] to add.
[26:50] >> I don't think I do.
[26:52] >> Still want to arm wrestle though, do
[26:54] you?
[26:54] >> I mean, we'll save it. It's been a long
[26:56] day.
[26:57] >> Well, listen, actually, I got to pause
[26:59] you. I mean, we did have a UF UFC fight
[27:01] on the White House line. I mean, we
[27:03] could potentially do this.
[27:04] Extraordinary.
[27:04] >> I mean, it's not on the agenda, but I
[27:06] mean, we could do it.
[27:07] >> Things not anticipated.
[27:08] >> I tell you, I'm 48 hours a meeting.
[27:10] >> I'm really not interested. who
[27:12] anticipated
[27:12] >> hurt me more than I can hurt anybody
[27:14] else.
[27:15] >> He is a strong guy, you know. So,
[27:16] >> yeah, I don't think is going to cover
[27:19] that, Dan. I think you're
[27:20] >> want to hurt me and I don't want to hurt
[27:21] him.
[27:22] >> All right.
[27:24] >> And yeah, that's um I think that's all I had.
[27:28] >> Um Oh, and we um the Millville Water.
[27:32] I'm not asking for an update on it, but
[27:34] we I'm on an email with a resident that
[27:37] is looking for um updates in uh through the school
[27:42] district. Um and so if um
[27:47] you are are you the point person?
[27:49] >> I I am. Yeah.
[27:50] >> All right. So if I we can we just attach
[27:52] that stuff and send it.
[27:54] >> So I've asked I've asked Mccclure to
[27:56] summarize it because that attaching that
[27:58] stuff there's a ton of stuff. I've asked
[28:01] them to put a summary together
[28:03] >> and to be able to, you know, provide
[28:05] that information based on Kristen had
[28:07] sent that over from the residents. So,
[28:09] I'm waiting on Mccclure
[28:11] >> to uh address that. Frankly,
[28:14] >> I would prefer like and anyone asking
[28:17] for water updates
[28:18] >> instead of going through the school,
[28:20] they should probably just go right to
[28:21] you guys are the water. Yeah. So, so if
[28:24] there's no objection like I I don't
[28:26] think the school should be
[28:28] >> giving what we have no problem posting
[28:31] stuff on the website,
[28:32] >> but but I I
[28:33] >> haven't talked to the experts.
[28:34] >> I want Mccclure to provide the summary
[28:37] information for you all as well, right?
[28:39] So, it' be the same info and we we're
[28:42] happy to give it. I don't have that yet.
[28:44] those of us who have shallower lives
[28:46] that watch our each other's meetings and
[28:48] stuff, right, are up to are up to speed
[28:51] on the water stuff, you know, and and so
[28:54] um
[28:54] >> is that can we post that on our town
[28:57] website? Water information uh you know,
[29:00] a summary and with dates for each
[29:04] update. That way anybody from either
[29:06] town can quickly go on and find it.
[29:08] >> Yeah. So we have
[29:10] >> we haven't had anything recent, you
[29:12] know, but that would be the type of
[29:13] information that would go on the section
[29:15] of the website that we have a ton of
[29:17] water information
[29:19] >> currently you know but I don't have the
[29:21] summary of the latest pilot test
[29:24] >> right
[29:24] >> data which is voluminous
[29:28] >> right there's a lot
[29:30] >> summary because they're testing here
[29:31] there everywhere every day you know to
[29:35] be compliant yeah I mean they're still
[29:36] they're testing actual part the the
[29:38] water that's being trucked in as well,
[29:39] right? I mean, through different
[29:41] >> They did previously.
[29:42] >> Yeah. So, it's it's so it's there's a
[29:45] lot of
[29:45] >> It was skewed, but it's we're past that
[29:47] now, right?
[29:47] >> We are. We are. It's not local.
[29:49] >> You're on the pilot plan. you you may be
[29:51] drilling a new well, you may not.
[29:52] There's a lot of things in that. So it's
[29:55] >> it's um
[29:56] >> but I wanted a summary from Mccclure
[29:58] which addressed some of the things that
[30:00] you know uh we're Kristen updated
[30:03] earlier you know that says hey we're
[30:06] >> we're dealing with D on the location of
[30:08] this and the way we treat this and geez
[30:11] the you know we're tweaking the chlorine
[30:13] and
[30:14] >> PAS results are this and
[30:17] >> disinfection byproducts are this
[30:21] >> people should know you're also
[30:22] potentially getting ahead the PAS with
[30:24] this project.
[30:25] >> Oh, I think so. Yeah, for sure.
[30:27] >> We just did a $10 million water
[30:30] filtration system and it's we're
[30:32] probably going to have to put another
[30:33] four or five into that to deal with the
[30:36] upcoming PAS regulations.
[30:38] >> I have to start selling lemonade over
[30:39] there in Blackstone.
[30:40] >> Have to do something. So,
[30:42] >> well, thank you for coming.
[30:43] >> All right. All right. Thank you for
[30:44] having me.
[30:45] >> Thank you.
[30:45] >> Have a good evening. I promised I
[30:47] wouldn't have you waiting.
[30:48] >> No, thank you.
[30:51] >> That door is locked, by the way.
[30:53] Sorry.
[30:54] >> But that wasn't
[30:56] >> that was
[30:56] >> that wasn't that was
[30:57] >> that's usually bad.
[30:58] >> Really?
[30:58] >> You know what? Security we it's high
[31:00] priority here. So,
[31:02] >> thank you. Have a good night.
[31:03] >> Thank you.
[31:06] >> All right. Back to the old town hall.
[31:08] >> Yes. So, there's still repairs uh going
[31:10] on there. There's painting. There's
[31:12] flooring upgrades. There's stuff like
[31:15] that.
[31:15] >> So, just to clarify, my joke about the
[31:17] assessor's office was tongue and cheek.
[31:18] not to be taken seriously, but I I
[31:20] assure that Maggie has a planagram. I
[31:22] have not taken uh I haven't looked at
[31:24] it.
[31:25] >> So,
[31:25] >> I just want to make sure that the people
[31:27] who have space, you know, if they have
[31:30] five file cabinets here or four
[31:34] cupboards and a desk and I
[31:36] >> Yeah,
[31:37] >> that's going to be difficult to
[31:40] >> So, we think we
[31:40] >> to to match. And if we do have to
[31:43] downsize, then we should be downsizing
[31:45] through everybody and not expecting one
[31:48] or two departments to significantly
[31:50] decrease their square footage.
[31:53] >> Yeah. So, I don't think we're
[31:54] necessarily doing that.
[31:58] >> Tim disagrees.
[32:00] >> I hear.
[32:02] So, um, and we have movers that have
[32:06] disassembled a row,
[32:08] >> the planner and the assessor's row
[32:10] >> to put into the big open space to make
[32:14] sure it's in the right spot and we have
[32:16] the right number of rows and the right
[32:18] persons assigned to the spots in that
[32:22] space. And I think we're pretty good in
[32:23] terms of of that. Um, and then
[32:27] separately we have some others that it
[32:29] will only be the first floor that's open
[32:31] because we have yet to get the elevator
[32:34] sorted out in terms of what needs to be
[32:36] done to get that operating. So, the
[32:39] public will only have access to the
[32:41] first floor.
[32:43] >> There may be some other spots up uh you
[32:47] know that folks will be upstairs for
[32:49] example. Um,
[32:50] >> what what's going on with the elevator?
[32:52] I has anybody called an elevator?
[32:56] >> We have Otis elevator come in I think
[32:58] it's this week to
[32:59] >> Thursday to see about uh what's going to
[33:02] be involved in
[33:03] >> reactivating that.
[33:05] >> Yeah.
[33:05] >> And that
[33:06] >> we may find that that's pretty expensive
[33:08] or it's not. We we don't know that yet.
[33:11] Right. And if it's pretty expensive then
[33:14] that's a future funding challenge for
[33:17] the town. We're trying to do what we can
[33:19] within essentially 400 grand that we
[33:22] have available for this project and
[33:25] we're we're doing that with what we've
[33:26] got. Um
[33:28] >> where are we within the scope of the
[33:30] project? Where are we financially in
[33:34] that 400 400,000?
[33:35] >> So we have about I'm going to say 50
[33:38] grand left to play with which we think
[33:40] will cover some of the moving costs.
[33:42] We'll cover some of the technology
[33:45] connections and things like that. I
[33:46] think it's 50 grand. I'm just
[33:48] ballparking based on what we've probably
[33:50] incurred from what we have. Um, so
[33:54] again, there's repairs being done. You
[33:56] know, Joe was in there three days this
[33:58] weekend doing a lot of like flooring and
[34:01] some uh, you know, final painting and
[34:04] things like that.
[34:05] >> I think we owe him a great
[34:07] >> I keep telling him his name should go on
[34:09] that building. He's unbelievable.
[34:10] >> Really? If it wasn't for him, it it
[34:13] never it would have been trashed.
[34:15] >> Yeah. know
[34:15] >> I mean it was really falling apart
[34:17] literally.
[34:18] >> Yeah. So it's uh so we're you know where
[34:22] the you know the number of connections
[34:25] coming out of the ceiling drops for
[34:28] connecting someone's computer someone's
[34:30] phone someone's printer that sort of
[34:32] thing remains to you know still being
[34:35] worked out with the the proper folks uh
[34:37] including our Jack our electrical
[34:41] inspector who's done some of the work so
[34:43] far. So then there's a deep clean. Um we were over there today and we've
[34:49] decided some of the rugs that we were
[34:52] hoping to live with, we probably would
[34:54] be better to put down some sort of
[34:57] flooring, remove the rugs, put some
[34:59] flooring down. It's it's fairly
[35:02] inexpensive money that gives, you know,
[35:05] gives the the place a bit a good look.
[35:07] you know, the the ladies were not
[35:10] thrilled with the way the lady's
[35:12] restroom was. That's now been sorted
[35:15] out, and so I think it gets the
[35:17] >> at least it gets the Maggie seal of
[35:20] approval, which is important. Um
[35:24] >> um to circle back on the right size
[35:27] office space for individuals.
[35:30] >> Um
[35:32] I don't want I want to make sure moving
[35:34] forward through this that we're not
[35:36] marginalizing any individual that
[35:39] everybody has enough space for all their
[35:41] equipment. And um are you finding any
[35:44] challenges with that? Because I Hey Joe,
[35:48] I am kind of concerned with just
[35:52] everybody's got the ability to function.
[35:54] Well, I I know it's it's an old
[35:56] building, so it's not uh it's like it's
[35:59] not going to be, you know, a square hole
[36:01] in a round peg type thing.
[36:03] >> Well, it's going to require folks to
[36:05] have some flexibility and some of the
[36:09] things will be sorted out even when we
[36:12] get in there because we just,
[36:14] >> you know, there's just so many
[36:15] unforeseen things. But I think it it's
[36:18] nearly ready for things to start moving
[36:21] in. Folks have been starting to pack
[36:23] things and um you know that's all good.
[36:27] Uh great work. Again, Joe working his
[36:31] tail off.
[36:31] >> Peter, if somebody is having a problem,
[36:33] would you keep the entire board a breast
[36:35] of that and the details of it so
[36:38] >> you know we can at least be considerate
[36:40] and and responsive if if we have the
[36:43] ability to do so. Um and and help
[36:48] comfortable.
[36:48] >> Yeah, I think Maggie's got a planagram
[36:50] that she's been working on. Is that
[36:51] correct?
[36:52] >> It's in process. Changes every day. But
[36:55] yes, that's the idea. We're working on
[36:56] trying to identify exactly where
[36:58] everyone's going to be located. And
[37:00] >> um I think every time we look at it, we
[37:02] make a few tweaks to it, but until we
[37:04] start getting the furniture in there, I
[37:06] think it's hard to really get a sense of
[37:08] the space. But we're we're making
[37:10] progress for sure. lots of file
[37:12] cabinets, you know, and where they're
[37:13] located,
[37:14] >> things like that.
[37:15] >> Are we using that basement ground floor
[37:18] as well or
[37:19] >> right now? No.
[37:20] >> Okay. So, is that going to be future
[37:24] space for town hall employees or
[37:26] >> So, the intent of that space was for the
[37:28] police department satellite operation
[37:30] with ladies facilities, you know, female
[37:33] facilities and so forth, but that's not
[37:36] part of the funding that we have
[37:38] available to do what we're doing right
[37:39] now. So, Folks might have to come back
[37:42] uh you know come back to
[37:44] >> revisit that. Exactly. You know, we're
[37:46] going to put in right now it has uh
[37:48] we're going to need to get some air
[37:50] condition window air conditioning units
[37:53] um for the time being. Um
[37:56] I don't know what else there is. Again,
[37:58] Joe's
[37:59] >> Oh, I had one final question. I'm so
[38:01] sorry. That's all right.
[38:03] >> There had been a big room to the right
[38:05] at the top of the stairs and on the
[38:08] second floor of course and um I remember
[38:11] a long time ago um our historian Mr.
[38:14] Berthallet had said he'd really like
[38:16] that room to be able to make a like a
[38:20] mini museum. Yeah. With displays and
[38:23] >> he was asking me.
[38:24] >> Is that still a possibility? I haven't
[38:26] talked to him in years.
[38:27] >> So that's not ready for move in for
[38:28] that. Right. Okay. Okay. But that
[38:30] because that there's still some work
[38:31] that needs to happen with the ceilings
[38:33] and that sort of thing. But that's where
[38:35] the structural repairs for the roof were
[38:38] >> done. Okay. And that is the whole the
[38:41] game plan to have, you know, the
[38:43] displays and so forth along the lines of
[38:45] the museum. Separately up there is a
[38:47] room
[38:49] probably twothirds of the size of this
[38:51] room which is like a training room or
[38:53] meeting room. that's, you know, uh
[38:57] there's no real plan for that other than
[38:59] that's a great space to use for training
[39:02] or meeting and so forth. So, uh but
[39:05] again, not for the public at this stage
[39:08] because we don't have the elevator
[39:10] >> elevator. Peter, I hope
[39:12] >> can can we stop this? Can we ask Tim? He
[39:14] seems to have some commentary. So, do we
[39:16] want to include him in this conversation
[39:19] >> because um my patience is starting to
[39:20] wear thin.
[39:22] >> It's about out. I'll
[39:23] >> stop. I promise.
[39:25] Okay.
[39:26] >> Okay.
[39:26] >> Because if you got something to say,
[39:27] we're more than welcome.
[39:28] >> I emailed you all.
[39:29] >> You emailed us all.
[39:31] >> Yep.
[39:32] >> Okay.
[39:32] >> No response.
[39:34] >> Well, we're in the middle of
[39:35] discussions.
[39:37] So,
[39:38] >> okay.
[39:38] >> Well, I just heard.
[39:40] >> Okay. So, um I'm glad that the elevator
[39:43] is going to be dealt with. I I would
[39:45] like to see handicap accessible
[39:47] throughout the whole building. I think
[39:48] that's essential. and that one space you
[39:51] said uh that's like a meeting room
[39:53] that's a little bit bigger. I I hope
[39:56] that you and Maggie in your
[39:57] consideration of space if anybody does
[40:00] feel that they're not able to fully
[40:02] function within the space they're
[40:04] allotted that perhaps that or a portion
[40:07] of that space could be considered um for
[40:10] their use because I I really don't want
[40:12] to see people marginalized.
[40:13] >> I understand that. I don't think there's
[40:15] any intent of that. Uh there are, you
[40:17] know, there are also offices up there
[40:19] and semi cubicles outside those offices
[40:22] which are actually great spaces, but
[40:25] again not open to the public. Okay.
[40:27] >> Correct. Yeah.
[40:28] >> Um separately the window grant, right?
[40:31] We're we've been back and forth with the
[40:34] folks on that thing.
[40:36] >> Do you need help with Gloria on that?
[40:38] >> Well, so here's where they're at. Okay.
[40:40] Um they um we went out to bid twice on
[40:45] that thing and got no response. We've
[40:48] >> solicited chase people down. No
[40:50] response. They've come back and said we
[40:53] could, you know, hey, we thought, hey,
[40:55] what if we just bought the windows?
[40:57] Because nobody really wanted the 50
[40:59] grand project of windows and
[41:02] installation, you know, using under
[41:04] prevailing wages. So, we asked about
[41:08] buying the windows and installing them
[41:11] ourselves at our leisure, right?
[41:13] >> Mhm.
[41:14] >> And
[41:16] they came back with the caveat that the
[41:18] if you install yourselves, you still got
[41:22] to follow prevailing wages. Now, we
[41:24] haven't closed the loop on that because
[41:25] I would object to that. I haven't yet.
[41:28] Uh but anyway, our deadline they you
[41:31] know we look for an exp extension
[41:33] that's
[41:35] it it may not get us to where we need to
[41:37] be.
[41:38] >> Can I ask you because I I understand the
[41:40] grant in what I wrote. So within it we
[41:44] talked about the efficiency of a triple
[41:47] glaze.
[41:48] >> It did not the grant did not then
[41:50] dictate that those windows had to be
[41:52] triple glazed. we
[41:53] >> you it would still meet, you know,
[41:57] because we were talking about wind
[41:58] flection and everything else and and
[42:00] super efficiency. It still would be a
[42:02] much better envelope if we had which is
[42:05] fairly standard, a double glaze.
[42:08] >> Um, is that what you're going out to
[42:09] bid, a double or a triple?
[42:10] >> No, triple. Because they would only let
[42:13] us do the triple. We asked repeatedly,
[42:15] >> do you want me to talk to them to try to
[42:18] explain because they had trouble
[42:20] understanding the physics behind the
[42:22] windshare and the glass flexion for seal
[42:26] and and efficiency and I had to explain
[42:29] all that to them and the calculations.
[42:31] >> I would be more than glad if you need
[42:33] assistance to explain it to them again.
[42:36] >> Okay.
[42:37] >> And that it's not necessary. We're the
[42:39] triple the triple glaze is really for
[42:42] scenarios. We are not in Alaska. We are
[42:44] not high on a mountain. This is not
[42:47] Mount Washington. Um we are not on the
[42:49] shoreline. Uh those are for different
[42:52] scenarios. And yes, I did use those
[42:54] calculations to talk about efficiency,
[42:57] but it it's not what's governing this
[43:01] and and the essence of this and and what
[43:03] would make the most.
[43:04] >> Right. So I the only other thing I'll
[43:06] say I your help certainly is welcome. Um
[43:09] I don't again because of the time frames
[43:12] that were you know we've tried and tried without success and we tried
[43:17] to get it removed from the triple pane
[43:20] requirement. Couldn't do it. Um the only
[43:24] other thing I'll say is if you look at
[43:25] the windows they're actually pretty darn
[43:27] good that are there. They've have been
[43:29] replaced at some time in the past.
[43:31] They're not perfect but they have been
[43:33] replaced and they're double pained and
[43:35] you know that sort of thing. You know,
[43:38] Joe could probably talk better on the
[43:39] windows than I can, but that's my
[43:42] layman's approach is we're running out
[43:45] of time on the grant. They won't extend
[43:47] beyond the end of July. Our focus is on
[43:51] getting out of here and in there and the
[43:54] landlord's allowing us
[43:57] through July, which is really wonderful.
[43:59] Okay.
[44:00] >> Um July 1st.
[44:02] >> July 31st. Okay.
[44:04] >> So, that's great because you know there
[44:06] still is work to be done. Sure.
[44:07] >> So, I I ask again, Peter, Richard, do
[44:12] you want me to reach out to Gloria at
[44:14] the state and talk to them about the
[44:16] grant and try to find a a better
[44:18] scenario if possible? I don't know. You
[44:21] know, it's it's worth a shot since you
[44:23] >> I think it's worth a shot. Absolutely.
[44:25] From my perspective.
[44:25] >> If you guys are okay with me doing that.
[44:27] >> Is that all right, Jen?
[44:28] >> Yep.
[44:29] >> Okay,
[44:30] >> that'd be great.
[44:31] >> Then I'll do that.
[44:31] >> Fantastic. Yeah. So, uh, just to kind of
[44:34] close us out, my only other comment was
[44:36] I know that the assessors have been
[44:38] talking about some sort of a mainframe
[44:39] or computer or cloud. Did that get
[44:42] resolved?
[44:42] >> Yes. So, we're on the cloud and but
[44:45] we're also as part of our technology in
[44:48] the town meeting vote.
[44:49] >> We're getting a new server, right? So,
[44:51] it's upgraded. It's
[44:53] >> not 10 12 years old or whatever.
[44:55] >> And you have space for it in this
[44:56] building.
[44:57] >> Well, there's a lot of space in that
[44:59] building. And yes, we do. Yeah.
[45:00] >> Okay.
[45:01] So, I just want to make sure you
[45:02] have enough room wherever it's going to
[45:04] go. So, all right.
[45:06] >> We have more space than we truly need,
[45:07] you know, for the number of people.
[45:10] >> I trust you. I trust Maggie's judgment.
[45:11] I'm sure she's got a plan. Not putting
[45:13] you on the carpet, but I'm sure there's
[45:14] a planagram here somewhere and you guys
[45:15] are still working through it. So,
[45:16] >> with accessible
[45:19] >> space.
[45:19] >> Yeah.
[45:20] >> Like you can't So, I'll just go on the
[45:22] record. I will never drop a dime beyond
[45:25] whatever whatever that grant is. Okay. I
[45:29] totally disagree with the move back
[45:30] there. I was part of the board that that
[45:33] closed that down. Um the report, I don't
[45:36] know if the report was ever seen, but
[45:38] there's a stream that runs underneath
[45:40] the town hall and that's why the
[45:42] basement has had history of black mold
[45:44] has been remedied years and years of
[45:48] documents that was stored there. Um MIMA
[45:50] used to be down there. they removed
[45:52] their technology because of the
[45:53] moisture. Um, the amount of
[45:56] dehumidifiers over the years that have
[45:58] been there, there was dehumidifiers
[45:59] there in 1970 when I had speech down in
[46:03] that back room. So, this is an ongoing
[46:06] issue. Um, accessibility to the third
[46:09] floor, air conditioning units. It's not
[46:12] like you can say, "I'm going to go work
[46:14] in my office on the second floor and put
[46:15] an AC on and have it cool." that room.
[46:19] Those rooms take numerous hours to cool
[46:22] down. I don't believe in the move back
[46:25] there. I I think the town should have
[46:27] looked for other alternatives. Um I will
[46:30] support everything going forward as part
[46:32] of my responsibility.
[46:34] >> But beyond a grant to fix anything, you
[46:36] will always get a no vote from me. I
[46:38] don't believe that we belong in that
[46:40] building. I don't think our staff should
[46:42] be in that building. I don't think it
[46:45] meets the needs of our community. and
[46:47] are operating daytoday. Um, so you know,
[46:52] I sit here listening.
[46:53] >> You know, that's a really some really
[46:55] good comments. Can you give us all the
[46:57] paperwork for that orile?
[46:59] >> Yeah, direct Peter as to where to find
[47:01] that paperwork and we like to review it.
[47:03] I don't want to just talk about things
[47:06] that we think or heard. I want to report
[47:09] Nope. Great. I want to see the actual
[47:11] reports. Peter, would you work with her
[47:13] to find those reports? Maybe she can
[47:15] give you some guidance.
[47:15] >> We'll see what we can find. Yeah, that
[47:17] would be
[47:17] >> When did we move out of there anyways?
[47:20] >> Uh 17
[47:23] years. So we're almost Yeah, I think I'm
[47:25] on 10 years. Yeah.
[47:26] >> Okay. 10 years. 16.
[47:27] >> Um do do we want any commentary from Joe
[47:30] since I see you sitting here?
[47:31] >> Might be helpful.
[47:31] >> Sir, would you mind coming up? Do you
[47:33] have any feedback?
[47:35] >> Yeah. And Peter, I think um Jerry Finn
[47:36] was on that committee.
[47:38] >> Well, you guys did the study.
[47:40] >> Thank you for coming in.
[47:42] >> You might remember the exact dates. So,
[47:44] you heard some concerns about
[47:46] underground rivers and moisture and and
[47:48] you have been the special municipal
[47:50] employee here overseeing that and thank
[47:52] you for doing that.
[47:53] >> So, very much so.
[47:54] >> Part of the problem down there, the
[47:55] moisture was coming up from the where
[47:57] you have a hand dug
[47:59] section of that cellar.
[48:01] >> Okay. Since we fixed the floor, what I
[48:03] had them do is encapsulate that in
[48:05] plastic. So, your moisture level that
[48:08] used to be there dropped dramatically.
[48:11] Okay.
[48:11] >> Okay. I put a commercial I know there
[48:13] was dehumidifiers I seen them all over.
[48:15] I put a commercial one in there and I
[48:17] had to sell it down to 50% humidity. So
[48:21] to get that out of there my suggestion
[48:23] would be to put a air exchanger in that
[48:25] basement exchange air and get it moving
[48:28] and I think it's going to take a lot of thing. I couldn't find a stream
[48:32] that's there is a if you go in the back
[48:34] of that wall down the back where the
[48:36] kiln is.
[48:37] >> Somebody made a French drain or
[48:40] something. There's a sump back there.
[48:42] >> So sump pump's not even working. So it's
[48:44] like you might as well not even bother
[48:46] having it if it's not going to be
[48:47] >> functional. So if that's where the
[48:50] water's coming from, but be honest with
[48:51] you, I try to find a stream they're
[48:53] talking about. I know that the gut is
[48:55] coming down. They got to be rerooed at
[48:57] the bottom. Put longer pipes, get it so
[48:59] it doesn't drain next to the granite
[49:00] foundation. That's going to help a lot,
[49:03] you know, but it's just small stuff like
[49:04] that. I think you're going to get a lot
[49:06] of improvements on it.
[49:08] >> Okay. Like I said, when we looked at the
[49:10] building, there was no other options and
[49:11] you guys had to leave here. So, you were
[49:13] kind of like in a rock and a hard place.
[49:15] >> So, it sounds like there's some things
[49:16] here that we can get still get fixed.
[49:17] >> Mitigate the issues. Yes.
[49:19] >> Sure. Well, it sounds like you already
[49:21] did quite a bit to fix the issue.
[49:23] >> Well, like I said, it's it's an ongoing
[49:25] project. I mean, you
[49:26] >> It's a mountain. You've climbed that
[49:27] mountain.
[49:27] >> You'll get it. Thank you.
[49:28] >> You know, I mean, you just got to stay
[49:30] with it. You can't let the building just
[49:32] go deep under carry. You know, no
[49:34] maintenance on it. That's the worst
[49:36] enemy.
[49:37] >> It's had a good life. It should have
[49:38] been torn down.
[49:39] >> That's my opinion.
[49:41] >> Yeah.
[49:42] >> Well, I thought the same, but after
[49:44] talking to you years ago,
[49:47] >> engineer through the house,
[49:48] >> he seemed to know better.
[49:49] >> Go through the building.
[49:51] >> Here's what you don't, you know, you
[49:53] don't have to rip it down.
[49:55] >> And the problem that you had there, they
[49:56] saying rip it down. Okay. But you got to
[49:58] remember everything there and the fire
[50:00] department are all tied together.
[50:02] >> So the water comes out of the police
[50:04] department. The water comes out of there
[50:06] to do that. the sewer. I would imagine
[50:09] it's hooked in there somehow. So, that's
[50:11] another consideration you got to look
[50:12] at. It's like even if you were to sell
[50:14] the building,
[50:15] >> how do you cut those services now?
[50:17] >> So,
[50:19] >> yeah.
[50:19] >> I mean, that's something that, you know,
[50:22] >> Well, thank you very much for your hard
[50:23] work.
[50:25] >> Couldn't have done it without Joe. It
[50:26] was unbelievable. I think you really
[50:28] ought to think about naming it after
[50:29] him.
[50:30] >> I think we should.
[50:31] >> He's like the I want the new building
[50:32] after this, not this one.
[50:34] >> I think we definitely should. And I did
[50:36] look at the report that was out there
[50:37] and this they wanted $2.5 million to do
[50:40] renovations on it. They want to change
[50:41] the floor space inside
[50:42] >> 10 year old money
[50:43] >> and then they were going to do5 $5
[50:45] million to build you a new one
[50:47] >> and then I looked at the report the
[50:49] state did
[50:50] >> and I'm saying I looked at it in the
[50:52] beginning and I said this is not a big
[50:54] deal you know.
[50:56] >> Okay.
[50:57] >> I mean I've done this stuff for a lot of
[50:59] years so I I look at things different
[51:00] from other people. So
[51:02] >> we love you. That's just my uh
[51:05] >> I don't take away from the efforts that
[51:06] have been put forth by everyone trying
[51:08] to make this happen. I just wouldn't
[51:10] have voted in that that manner.
[51:12] >> Well, we're kind of past all that now
[51:14] and it sounds like you've overcome the
[51:16] issues in
[51:17] >> uh and it's it is impressive.
[51:20] >> It is absolutely impressive and I think
[51:23] we all very much appreciate you.
[51:25] >> Thank you.
[51:26] >> Extraordinary.
[51:29] >> We appreciate it.
[51:30] >> Thanks, Joe.
[51:31] >> Thank you, Joe. Thank you for stopping
[51:32] by even though you weren't planning on
[51:34] speaking.
[51:35] >> Yeah, I fig I'd stop and see what's
[51:36] going on. Well,
[51:38] >> could
[51:38] >> when you get closer to the end on that
[51:40] floor space and and plans, can
[51:44] >> we have a a glance at it?
[51:46] >> Sure.
[51:54] » I
[51:59] » not that. So for you to mark up
[52:02] But you already have a good
[52:04] >> Yeah,
[52:05] >> we were talking about a planagram.
[52:06] Everybody all the assignments in the
[52:07] room.
[52:08] >> This was a layout of a building.
[52:10] >> So then you plug in what you want.
[52:12] >> Yeah.
[52:13] >> We give you scales.
[52:16] >> Okay. Good. Have we killed that? We're
[52:18] good.
[52:18] >> I think we're good.
[52:19] >> All right. Mees generator repair
[52:21] replacement. So this is something that
[52:22] we asked Peter for a month ago. He has
[52:25] delivered. This is basically a scope of
[52:26] work for repair replacement for the
[52:28] generator um at the elementary school.
[52:31] So hoping to go out and publish this and
[52:34] see what we get.
[52:35] >> That's right. So we and it's a
[52:36] solicitation because it's a school
[52:38] building and the range is 10 to 100
[52:41] grand. So you solicit three.
[52:43] >> We're going to go Yep. Okay.
[52:45] >> And where do you post this?
[52:47] >> And so we don't even have to post it. We
[52:49] just But it will be on like this is
[52:51] >> right
[52:52] >> almost finalized draft, right? It needs
[52:54] a little tweaking.
[52:55] >> Are you sending this to companies?
[52:57] >> So, we'll send it out. We'll be chasing
[52:58] folks down for this. Yeah.
[53:00] >> And you have a lead. You do have a lead
[53:01] from Mr. Keef.
[53:02] >> We do.
[53:02] >> For us, we do.
[53:04] >> Yeah. We have had some, you know, a
[53:05] couple of people in one group came in.
[53:08] We have yet to hear back from them who
[53:10] looked at all of the options, including
[53:12] replace.
[53:13] >> Um, separately. Last week, we put in,
[53:16] it's still being tweaked a little bit
[53:17] right now, uh, for basically a FEMA
[53:20] grant for the full replacement of the
[53:22] generator. We worked with CMRPC on that.
[53:26] um went in last week. It will be
[53:30] two years before that ultimately is
[53:32] realized, but there's a good shot at. So
[53:33] the repair really makes sense. Repair,
[53:36] replace of the generating piece. And
[53:38] this was crafted up for me by Jack
[53:41] Granga, who actually is in the business.
[53:44] Okay. And I keep asking him if he would
[53:47] bid on this thing himself. Um but
[53:51] I'm not sure he wants to do that. He's
[53:53] our electrical inspector, but he's a
[53:55] generator expert, right? And so he did
[53:58] review, you know, he went in there,
[53:59] looked at the machine, and helped with
[54:01] this based on the specs of what we're
[54:03] looking to do. So,
[54:04] >> perfect. Thank you. So, do you do you
[54:05] know when you'll have a final draft and
[54:06] ready to go?
[54:07] >> Yeah, I think we're going to try to get
[54:08] that out between now and next week.
[54:10] >> Now, when the school closes, do we know
[54:13] if they're returning the rental or if
[54:15] they're going to going to continue in
[54:17] >> I don't know that. I haven't I haven't
[54:19] heard. Is the reverberator tower still
[54:22] reliant on that backup generator or has
[54:25] that received its own backup generator?
[54:27] >> Oh, it is. So, that was part of this
[54:29] grant that we did for FEMA, right, to
[54:31] help sell it, if you will, right? Is
[54:33] that the new uh communication tower is
[54:37] dependent because it's hooked into the
[54:38] school electricity as is the fire
[54:41] department's 60,000galon
[54:44] water tank, fire suppression for the
[54:47] school.
[54:47] >> So, we can't really And I would assume
[54:51] we can't end that rental until we have a
[54:55] repair andor replacement.
[54:57] >> Just have to be aware that that's $5,000
[54:59] per month.
[55:00] >> 6,000. Yeah.
[55:01] >> Yeah. Yeah. And it's Yeah. Mas is also
[55:04] our um
[55:06] >> emergency shelter for school and so
[55:08] therefore having water running and
[55:10] things of that sort if
[55:11] >> you know tornado, bad storm, trees,
[55:13] whatever, whatever.
[55:14] >> Yeah.
[55:15] >> So hopefully we'll get this sorted out
[55:17] and out there. So, this will go out in
[55:18] the next couple weeks.
[55:20] >> Yeah. Within the next week or two. Yep.
[55:22] >> All right.
[55:23] >> And would you mind sending me a link to
[55:25] this posting so I can
[55:25] >> I sure will.
[55:26] >> I just want to share with Dan. Make sure
[55:27] everybody's on on board.
[55:28] >> Yes.
[55:29] >> All right. Great.
[55:32] Departments. Uh Joe, do you have
[55:34] anything you want to add or you're good?
[55:36] >> I got nothing. You guys are good. Okay.
[55:38] Public forum. Don't all stand up at
[55:41] once.
[55:41] >> I know.
[55:42] >> Okay. Announcements.
[55:44] >> Uh just uh let's see. Library. Um,
[55:47] what's our date? The 15th. So, Wednesday
[55:50] this week, June 17th at 4:30 p.m.
[55:52] Creative Club at the library. Thursday,
[55:54] June 25th at 6:30 p.m. book club
[55:57] meeting. Saturday, June 27th,
[56:00] Renaissance Jazz Trio Concert. Um,
[56:03] senior center. Um, Thursday they have
[56:08] five wishes. Aging with dignity,
[56:10] advanced care planning, a lunch for
[56:12] three bucks, and a COA meeting. Um they
[56:15] have on Tuesdays line dance pitch and
[56:18] chair yoga hand knee and foot cards on
[56:21] next Wednesday. Uh next Thursday the
[56:24] 25th they have a movie remark remarkably
[56:26] bright creatures lunch three bucks and
[56:29] June birthday celebrations. On Monday
[56:32] the 29th they have a craft class at
[56:34] 10:00 a.m. And also on Tuesday besides
[56:37] line dance pitch is at 1:00 Tina's
[56:41] retirement party. Ah,
[56:43] >> so
[56:44] >> what was the date on the retirement
[56:45] party?
[56:45] >> That's the 30th,
[56:47] >> Tuesday.
[56:48] >> Okay,
[56:50] >> cool.
[56:51] >> All right.
[56:52] >> Um, correspondence.
[56:54] >> Yeah, I was already You had that in the
[56:56] MSBA thing. Yep.
[56:57] >> Yeah. All right. Uh, minutes.
[57:00] >> Uh, I have I'm told three drafts coming
[57:03] quickly here, but I don't have them yet.
[57:05] Okay.
[57:05] >> Selectment reports.
[57:08] >> So, I just have a couple items. Uh, town
[57:10] report.
[57:12] booklet. Is that available online or
[57:14] >> only online?
[57:15] Okay. Thank you.
[57:16] >> Stop publishing it. Yeah.
[57:17] >> Took that Yeah. budget away.
[57:20] >> Um that $500.
[57:22] >> Yes.
[57:22] >> Yeah. Okay. Um
[57:26] also, um on Saturday, the library
[57:29] celebrated their 40th. Um you were
[57:31] there. I was there.
[57:32] >> I gave out a hug.
[57:33] >> Oh, well, you're better than me. I'm
[57:35] more like a cactus.
[57:36] >> Couple couple handshakes, but I did give
[57:38] out a hug. So, it was a very nice
[57:40] >> Yeah,
[57:40] >> very nice. It was a very nice event. Um
[57:43] they did a very nice job with it and
[57:45] it's nice to see that that department um
[57:48] and the dedication of those members over
[57:50] the years um how deep they go. So I was
[57:53] it was a great celebratory event um
[57:56] >> and it was well attended.
[57:58] Um also just on my part um over the next
[58:02] couple weeks month I'm going to just
[58:04] make myself available to be attending um
[58:06] board and department meetings. I'll be
[58:08] having um some office hours here at the
[58:10] town hall so that if any staff people
[58:13] want to just come to talk to me. If
[58:15] general public wants to talk to me, I'll
[58:16] have some hours here. I'll have some at
[58:18] the library. Um I've done this in the
[58:20] past. Sometimes I have people, sometimes
[58:22] I don't, but it's good that people have
[58:23] a place that they can go and talk face
[58:25] to face with someone. Um so I'll be
[58:28] putting those out and I'll let you know,
[58:30] too. Um but it's just something I've
[58:32] done in the past and I now that my
[58:34] school year is wrapping up and I have
[58:36] some time on my plate. Um, I'll be
[58:38] putting those out there for people. So,
[58:40] that's it.
[58:42] >> Cool.
[58:44] >> Uh, town administrative report.
[58:47] >> You, you two are all set. You're all
[58:49] set. Yeah.
[58:50] >> Uh, the only thing I wanted to say is
[58:52] that in future meetings, I think we
[58:54] should reuse the podium again for people
[58:57] from the audience who want to come up
[58:58] and talk. I think that was a great way
[59:01] of doing things because at that point
[59:04] they always used to say their name which
[59:07] helps for people at home with continuity
[59:09] or anybody writing minutes and they
[59:12] could just say they live in town
[59:13] although they don't need to get into
[59:15] their full address or anything but that
[59:17] was my thought that we should implement
[59:19] that again so people start following
[59:22] better procedures instead of we've had
[59:25] some meetings where we have a number of
[59:26] people talking from the audience and
[59:28] they have really good points points
[59:29] they're trying to raise.
[59:31] >> I just I think people at home really
[59:33] need to hear it in detail.
[59:35] >> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. For this session here,
[59:37] we didn't have any residents. So,
[59:38] >> no, not this time, but in the future,
[59:40] I'd like to do that. Would that be okay
[59:42] with the board? Does anybody object to
[59:44] that?
[59:45] >> We can try it. I think
[59:47] >> sitting round table gives a a feel of
[59:49] collaboration and equaleness and
[59:52] >> um it takes away a little bit of the
[59:53] formality. Um, but I mean the old town
[59:56] hall, if we're back there and we're
[59:57] using the old selectman table, it comes
[1:00:00] with the podium. Um, and that's how you
[1:00:02] talk because you don't have this uh
[1:00:03] round table type thing. So,
[1:00:04] >> right,
[1:00:05] >> I don't have a problem trying it and
[1:00:06] seeing what the people who come to the
[1:00:08] meeting, what they like.
[1:00:08] >> Let's do it.
[1:00:09] >> Okay, great.
[1:00:12] >> Um,
[1:00:14] so I had one thought on Jen's comment
[1:00:17] about office hours. just a procedural
[1:00:19] and I'm not opposed to the idea, but
[1:00:21] procedurally
[1:00:22] >> doesn't everything get routed through
[1:00:24] the town administrator and then from
[1:00:26] there doesn't the board direct the town
[1:00:28] administrator. So,
[1:00:29] >> well, how many times have you been
[1:00:31] contacted through somebody in town that
[1:00:33] says, "Hey, can you do something about
[1:00:34] this?" This just gives them a place to
[1:00:36] do that.
[1:00:37] >> Those things are always followed up with
[1:00:38] an email and like I spoke to this person
[1:00:40] about this topic and blah blah blah. And
[1:00:42] those things do come back. It's not it's
[1:00:44] just a manner of which to be able to sit
[1:00:46] and talk to people rather than being
[1:00:47] caught at my kids, you know, school
[1:00:50] event or being caught at, you know, the
[1:00:52] library event to talk policy and
[1:00:54] procedure. It just gives an open space.
[1:00:56] >> Peter is the HR person for the staff and you you can't be fielding that kind
[1:01:02] of
[1:01:04] >> you you shouldn't that's pet I am I
[1:01:07] wrong Peter? I mean you are essential
[1:01:09] things.
[1:01:11] >> Yeah. I mean so
[1:01:12] >> why are you fielding that?
[1:01:13] >> Yeah. So for procedural I
[1:01:15] >> asked
[1:01:17] um you should ref
[1:01:18] >> so the way I would they do come back
[1:01:20] advise you is that you're going to
[1:01:24] readopt the policies and procedures and
[1:01:26] in that it's very clear how it works. So
[1:01:29] even if one of you is talking to a
[1:01:32] member of the staff
[1:01:33] >> you you can't direct them. You can
[1:01:35] respond to them but you still got to go
[1:01:37] through the town administrator right
[1:01:40] >> and keep the person informed. So I mean
[1:01:42] I would say that's
[1:01:43] >> a manner in which I go to them and I'm
[1:01:45] directing them. It's a manner in which
[1:01:47] if they feel comfortable with me that
[1:01:48] they can come and
[1:01:50] >> so
[1:01:50] >> let me know what's going on or or and
[1:01:53] then then I can act as a in between to
[1:01:56] bring that issue back to the forefront
[1:01:58] and deal with it without having staff
[1:02:00] people come to the front table before a
[1:02:02] whole board. Right.
[1:02:03] >> It really I mean it doesn't it's not it
[1:02:06] doesn't happen all the time but it does
[1:02:08] happen on occasion.
[1:02:09] >> Yeah. I I just I mean I I I I get why
[1:02:12] you're doing that. I just procedurally I
[1:02:14] was thinking that that might enable some
[1:02:16] staff and maybe some bad behavior where
[1:02:19] Peter is trying to address it and I
[1:02:21] don't want to give folks
[1:02:22] >> that would be a conversation I would say
[1:02:23] I had or an email saying I had a
[1:02:26] conversation and I want to do some
[1:02:27] followup on this topic
[1:02:28] >> just as I would with a a resident
[1:02:30] complaint which I have one
[1:02:32] >> because I was caught at the library
[1:02:34] event.
[1:02:35] So um so yeah it's just
[1:02:41] I'm not going to apologize for putting
[1:02:42] myself out there and having people have
[1:02:45] access to a selectman.
[1:02:47] >> Well, I was just questioning the
[1:02:48] procedurally, you know, the structure of
[1:02:50] having that.
[1:02:50] >> It's not like I'm making commitments.
[1:02:52] I'm just being there for an ear.
[1:02:54] >> No, I again, I was just asking
[1:02:56] procedurally how functions I've actually
[1:02:58] said, oh, there's mass general law or
[1:03:00] there's a town bylaw for that. So,
[1:03:02] really, we're within the
[1:03:04] >> it's within it. So before there's a
[1:03:06] complaint by a resident, they're already
[1:03:09] given the information, which I would do
[1:03:11] anyways. If they called me, if they
[1:03:12] caught me on the street, those are
[1:03:13] things I would do anyways and point them
[1:03:15] in the right direction.
[1:03:17] >> So it's not that I'm out there looking
[1:03:20] to tell people what to do. I'm actually
[1:03:22] there just to listen.
[1:03:25] >> So yeah, I was just asking procedurally.
[1:03:28] So items not reasonably anticipated 48
[1:03:31] hours prior to the meeting.
[1:03:32] >> I didn't do the town administrator
[1:03:33] report.
[1:03:33] >> Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, I skipped right
[1:03:34] over you. I got so excited.
[1:03:36] >> All I have is one item. Okay. I had a
[1:03:38] metacomt meeting this morning. All
[1:03:40] right.
[1:03:41] >> And uh we met with the SEMR board as
[1:03:44] well. So the metacomt board, Semre board
[1:03:46] met
[1:03:47] >> and approved um a joint executive
[1:03:50] director. So the executive director of
[1:03:52] SER will also serve as the executive
[1:03:55] director of Metacama.
[1:03:57] all with the intent and they an IMA an
[1:04:00] intermunicipal agreement was executed
[1:04:02] for that
[1:04:04] >> executive director. Um and the goal is
[1:04:07] to lead towards merger of the two
[1:04:10] entities which as I might have described
[1:04:12] in the past will likely result in lower
[1:04:15] cost to Millville for um you know
[1:04:19] continuing dispatch services. So that's
[1:04:22] really the goal that everybody wants to
[1:04:25] do. Makes good sense. the executive
[1:04:27] director right now, you know, they've
[1:04:30] got this uh World Cup stuff going on.
[1:04:32] So, they're very busy over there. So,
[1:04:33] his term wouldn't start probably until a
[1:04:36] August 1.
[1:04:37] >> And hope that was approved today.
[1:04:39] >> Hope not a reduction in service. Yeah.
[1:04:41] >> No, that's right. And um I'm not I
[1:04:44] wasn't a voting member today, but I I am
[1:04:46] allowed to ask questions, which I do. Um
[1:04:50] but starting July 1st, I become the
[1:04:52] voting member for Amended Millville.
[1:04:54] >> That sounds like fun. Oh, there you go.
[1:04:57] >> Okay.
[1:04:58] All right. Items not reasonably
[1:04:59] anticipated.
[1:05:00] >> Nothing.
[1:05:01] >> All right. We're going to have a next
[1:05:03] regular meeting Monday, July 13th, 2026
[1:05:06] at 6 p.m. Unless we squeeze one in
[1:05:09] before then, but we don't anticipate it.
[1:05:10] >> I don't think you need to. Right.
[1:05:12] >> Okay.
[1:05:13] >> Um,
[1:05:15] yeah. All right. Um, and this typically
[1:05:17] is around vacation time, so any
[1:05:20] potential.
[1:05:21] >> So, there could be remote by some,
[1:05:23] right?
[1:05:24] >> Okay.
[1:05:26] All right, just food for thought since
[1:05:29] uh yeah, we're here. Uh oh, let's enter
[1:05:33] an executive session by roll call.
[1:05:37] All right. I move that the board of
[1:05:39] selectman enter an executive session per
[1:05:40] mass general law chapter 38 subsection
[1:05:42] 21 A3 to discuss strategy relative to
[1:05:45] litigation where discussion of these
[1:05:47] matters in open session would have a
[1:05:48] detrimental effect on the litigating
[1:05:50] position of the town. I move that the
[1:05:52] board of selectman enter an executive
[1:05:53] session per mass general law chapter 30A
[1:05:55] subsection 2182 to discuss strategy
[1:05:58] sessions in preparation for negotiation
[1:06:00] with non-union personnel or to conduct
[1:06:02] collective bargaining sessions or
[1:06:04] contract negotiations with non-UN
[1:06:06] personnel and C move the board of
[1:06:08] selectment enter an executive session
[1:06:09] per master journal law chapter 38
[1:06:11] subsection A21A3 to discuss strategy
[1:06:14] with respect to collective bargaining or
[1:06:15] litigation if an open meeting may have a
[1:06:17] detrimental effect on the bargaining or
[1:06:19] litigating position of the town and the
[1:06:21] chair so declares teams union local 170
[1:06:24] police highway returning to open meeting
[1:06:26] only to adjourn looking for a second
[1:06:29] >> second and we'll take a vote Kristen I
[1:06:31] >> I Jen I
[1:06:33] >> All right you don't have to go