[2:25] Person right here. [4:25] Hello, and good evening, Everybody welcome tonight. The clerk informs [4:34] me that it's 07:00 p.m.. And we will begin with [4:37] the meeting. We will start with a moment of silent [4:40] reflection. The singing of Old Canada and the traditional land [4:43] acknowledgment please rise. [6:48] We acknowledge that the land we gather on is part [6:51] of the Treaty lands and territory of the mississaugas of [6:53] the Credit First nation. We recognize the traditional territory of [7:02] the huron, vendette and the hodin ashone people. We also [7:06] acknowledge the First Nation, métis and the inuit people who [7:10] live on these lands. Today, we commit to working towards [7:13] reconciliation. Please be seated. Hello, everyone. Welcome to tonight's meeting. [7:23] I'm councilor samira Ali, and I'll be your budget chair [7:26] for tonight's meeting. At this point I will look to [7:31] the clerk to see if she has any advice for [7:33] us. Thank you. In terms of announcements, I wanted to [7:38] note that a revised agenda was posted on Friday, December [7:41] 1, which included the addition of Marshall horner as a [7:45] delegate for this evening's meeting with regard to Staff Report [7:48] Course 57 23 related to the 2024 Capital and Operating [7:52] budget. I wanted to advise that Doug Watson. Has withdrawn [7:57] his registered delegation for this evening's meeting. I also wanted [8:01] to note that the written submission from Hunter, colhane. Regarding [8:05] Staff Report Course 57, 23 2024 Capital and Operating Budget [8:10] was circulated to members of Council in advance of this [8:12] meetings. Thank you, madam clerk, for that update. Are there [8:18] any disclosures of pecuniary interest? Councilor Best? Yes, madam Chair. [8:23] As I discussed with staff earlier, I have declared a [8:26] conflict on the milton Seniors Activity Center part time salaries, [8:31] as my wife is employed there as an instructor. Thank [8:33] you for letting us know. And just for our Council [8:36] members and the audience reference, that will be the. Clause [8:39] for B of the clauses that will be discussed on [8:42] later. Thank you for that declaration councilor. Best at this [8:46] point I've been looking at our cfo to see if [8:49] he has any comments to add. Thank you, Chair. Just [8:53] a couple of minor things just to confirm for Council [8:56] that all of the remaining. Feedback from the let's Talk [8:59] milton page has been received, has been circulated to Council [9:02] this morning along with all of the remaining questions and [9:04] responses from staff. I'd also just like to note that [9:09] similar to prior years, we will be updating Council through [9:11] this meeting with the update as to where the operating [9:14] budget and tax impacts reside along the way. When doing [9:18] so, Council will recall and I'll speak to this a [9:20] little more. In my presentation, there is an updated figure [9:23] from the regional level. That process is not complete yet, [9:26] but there is an updated figure that's been requested. By [9:28] the police board. So for the sake of tonight's discussion, [9:31] we'll refer to the higher number and I'll walk you [9:33] through that in the presentation later on. Thank you. Thank [9:37] you to our cfo for that update. We will now [9:41] move on to the delegate section. Delegation section. Offer agenda [9:46] and I would like to at this point welcome those [9:49] members of the public that have registered as delegates for [9:52] the 2024 budget. I'd also like to remind our delegates [9:55] that they will each have five minutes to provide their [9:58] comments, after which Council may have some questions regarding their [10:01] present. Presentation. And as the clerk has just confirmed that [10:05] one of our delegates has dropped off. So we have [10:09] only one tonight. And that is Mr. Marshall. Please comfort [10:13] Mr. Horner. [10:27] It works. Get myself organized here for a moment. [10:47] My name is Marshall horner. I reside at 524 sunnyvale [10:52] crescent in Milk, in Ontario. Madam Chair, Members of Council [10:59] and staff. On November 20 of this year, I left [11:04] a letter for the Mayor and each member of Council [11:07] expressing my concern of counsel not continuing a program started [11:11] at the 2023 budget meeting of finally ensuring all four [11:16] urban fire stations in milton being completely staffed 24/7 with [11:22] full. Time professional career firefighters. With my calculations, the difference [11:28] between the 9.50% an increase was no specific or transparent [11:34] detail and the 13.6% discussion level recommended by staff. Is [11:42] on our home at 524 sunnyvale Creshen. $60.12. Of that [11:48] amount. $14.0.66 is my cost to provide 24/7 coverage from [11:55] Station three. It may not be sufficient to fully fund [12:00] the staffing, but will it allow me to sleep with [12:04] a clear conscience. Here is my payment. Number of [12:14] years ago, a group of residents seen the need to [12:17] growth in our community. Was going through. Place on the [12:23] current hospital facility. Set about making that need known to [12:26] the provincial government. A campaign of growth was introduced to [12:31] ensure the required services for our new young neighbors would [12:36] need would be here before they arrived. As stated in [12:41] my written presentation, I do not believe that growth pays [12:45] for growth. However. The intent of Bill Three is to [12:50] aggressively increase the number of homes made available in our [12:54] community. A level which will create in the future. A [12:59] unique burden on the residents to support reasonable new infrastructure [13:04] services. As such. The province must accept the responsibility to [13:09] provide the seed money to support that insistent demand for [13:13] housing. They should provide the monies required to ensure safety [13:19] and other services. Are in place as the new communities [13:24] mature to a level to support these amenities. If Council [13:28] stands together to meet our current obligation to fund the [13:32] staffing of Station Three, I believe it becomes incumbent upon [13:36] people such as myself to ensure the higher levels of [13:40] government are made aware of what we feel are their [13:43] oblig. Obligations in helping our communities grow. In a safe [13:51] and secure environment. A challenge if Council tonight supports each [13:56] other in providing equal services to all current residents, I [14:01] will engage in along with encouraging other members of our [14:05] community. Starting tomorrow to impact what we feel for present [14:11] and possible future. Provincial Representatives Obligations to be met. Perhaps [14:18] at this time we replace the postcards used for the [14:21] hospital campaign with modern day social media. To contact all [14:27] political parties to remind them of their responsibility to turn [14:31] growth pays for growth to Growth enhances value. In our [14:36] community. A couple of years ago, I raised the question [14:40] of the actual number of full time, 24, 7365 day [14:45] per year fire units available. And a senior member of [14:50] Council waited until I left the podium before asking a [14:52] member of the fire Department. A question was not. In [14:57] the same vein as my statement, he received a political [15:01] but inaccurate answer. As I had left the podium, I [15:06] was not able to address the false statement. Tonight, I [15:10] would appreciate one of two courtesies. Questions in reference to [15:14] my presentation be addressed before I leave the podium in [15:18] order for me to properly clarify my position and or [15:22] statements. Or any statements made in reference to my presentation [15:27] after I leave the podium, if I stand at my [15:31] seat, I be given a point of order to address [15:34] those statements. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Horner, for your [15:39] delegation and for keeping it within the five minute time [15:42] slot. Are there any members that was difficult. Certainly. And [15:49] appreciate that. Councilor Best has a question for you. Yes. [15:52] Thank you for your presentation and your continued interest in [15:56] the budgets you mentioned about. The previous statement. Could you [16:00] just highlight to Council what that statement was and what [16:04] you thought was incorrect about it. At the time. We [16:08] had one full time fire truck on the streets of [16:12] milton. The question was asked. And it was a chief [16:18] who is no longer here. About the number of vehicles [16:22] that we had. And the answer was that. We had [16:27] a number. We had eight or nine. However. They were [16:31] all part time. Respondents. And as I pointed out in [16:38] my letter that I sent around the time for them [16:42] to respond. Is added dramatically. As I said, right now. [16:50] We're missing eight firefighters. My calculations. And I haven't heard [16:55] anybody dispute them. They may be wrong. Is about 730 [17:00] some odd thousand dollars. It's zero point 87% of your [17:05] budget. Thank you. Councilor culky has a question for you. [17:13] Thanks madam Chair, if you wanted to stick around, there [17:16] will be a resolution on the floor at a moment [17:18] later on in relation to Fire Services. If you want [17:20] to hear that so that way you're not. Thank you. [17:27] I do have some questions with regard to. The presentation [17:33] that was done, I guess last week and the minutes [17:36] that were presented for that. There were some ambiguous. Answers. [17:41] The question itself was ambiguous, and some of the answers [17:44] I feel were ambiguous. One of the people that I [17:48] have a great deal of concern for. And because of [17:52] my age, it may affect me and that's the schlegel, [17:55] retirement people. They may be one of the organizations that [17:59] I'm looking at. To perhaps retire to and one of [18:04] the things I intend to do is to ask them [18:07] where they stand and what information they have available. Thank [18:10] you. Thank you, Mr. Owner. Your comments have been noted [18:13] by our staff and with regards to the comments about [18:17] the budget and the questions you sent earlier, I'm pretty [18:20] sure our staff will reach out to. You and address [18:22] those questions. Thank you for your time tonight. That's fine. [18:27] The questions that I have. I intend. To Slagel because. [18:35] I'm seriously considering, and I want to know what information [18:38] they had available to them. I feel that there's a [18:41] great danger in that fire nation only having. Half staff. [18:49] And. As I said I spent 4 hours driving up [18:54] and down the streets. Thank you. Thanks for letting us [18:59] know. Thank you, thank you. And we had just one [19:09] delegation tonight. And we have no other delegation. So we [19:11] will move on to the presentations part of tonight's agenda. [19:15] And I would like to invite our cfo Glenn Cohen [19:18] to the podium in order to provide a brief presentation [19:20] regarding the 2024 budget. Welcome, Glenn. Thank you, Chair. Good [19:27] evening, everyone. So I will be brief tonight. Just provide [19:31] a summary, more introduction to getting into the deliberation. And [19:36] I'll just touch on a few of the points that [19:37] we did touch on in the workshop as well last [19:39] week, just starting from a process perspective, touching on both. [19:43] Where we have been and where we currently are. The [19:46] process really goes back to the early summer from a [19:49] public engagement perspective, even before that, this year, because we [19:52] did the Citizen Engagement Survey earlier in actually late 2022. [19:57] This is the first budget that we're utilizing those results [20:00] updated results from noting that they've been fairly consistent between [20:03] the different. Studies we've undertaken. More recently, we've had the [20:07] budget workshop and, of course, the release of the proposed [20:09] budget on November 15. This is the first budget process [20:13] that's utilizing the new legislation. So the step we're currently [20:16] in is the 30 day period where Council can make [20:19] amendments to the proposed budget, followed by an opportunity for [20:23] a veto process. And potential override process subject to decisions [20:27] made by Council and the Mayor. In terms of how [20:31] we've come from the September report to the final budget [20:34] that's presented in November. This is just a quick summary [20:37] of some of the larger steps taken to go from [20:40] what was identified as a pressure to ultimately what is [20:43] the recommended budget that is tabled in front of Council. [20:47] Some of the line items are sustainable in terms. Of [20:51] the steps have been taken in terms of finding reductions [20:54] in spending. New revenue sources potentially deferring a couple of [20:58] items before being introduced to the community. Other elements are [21:02] things like the stabilization reserve and the changes made to [21:06] the infrastructure funding, which there is a plan within the [21:09] multi year plan to either phase. Those out or reintroduce [21:12] them in the case of the infrastructure annual funding amount. [21:16] With those changes, the budget that is tabled is a [21:19] $98 million levy. Ultimately, as you can see summarized here [21:22] by Department of Note is from the gross cost. There [21:25] is approximately half of the revenue being nonproperty tax base, [21:29] with user fees being one of the larger sources within [21:32] the various program areas. Also, of Note is the fact [21:35] that in addition. To the town's budget is approval of [21:38] the Dbie budget here tonight. And just as a reminder [21:41] that that was approved by the board. So it's relaying [21:45] the information that's already been board approved for the dbia. [21:48] Within the Budget there are a number of. Ways in [21:52] which the budget is supporting and investing in the Council's [21:55] strategic plan. I won't read the list in front of [21:57] you, which is really itself just. A short and abbreviated [22:01] list of what you'll find in the budget document. But [22:03] certainly it touches on areas that were identified as priority, [22:06] including transit investment in technology, in facilities and in people. [22:11] And we continue some of the processes for planning those [22:14] next phases of growth with the work that's anticipated in [22:17] 2024 as well. Getting to what it means from a [22:21] final tax rate perspective. So this first slide is the [22:23] one that will reflect what's in the budget document in [22:26] front of you. So based on what was known at [22:28] the time of the budget call report in September, and [22:31] based on. The still existing guidance that was given at [22:35] the regional level, the proposed budget would result in, from [22:40] a local perspective, a nine and a half percent change [22:43] in. Our budget. But when we look at all three [22:46] levels of government and the blended rate, what was anticipated [22:49] to be 5.37% total, which is really what the bottom [22:53] line from a property taxpayer would look like on the [22:56] residential side. And you can see here as well. It [22:59] would translate to around $39 per 100,000 of assessment. So [23:04] the change I mentioned in the introductory comments is that [23:07] as the region and the police continue to work through [23:10] their own process, we do know that there is a [23:12] potential for a higher number at their level. From a [23:16] timing perspective, their budget will be passed after ours. I [23:19] believe they have a committee meeting this week and a [23:21] Council meeting next week. So as you can see here [23:25] with the revised budget as it's currently being presented at [23:28] that level. It would be 5.6% change combined at the [23:33] regional level. So with what is proposed in our budget, [23:37] what the bottom line on the property tax bill would [23:39] be would be in the order of 5.78%. So as [23:42] we provide updates tonight, it'll be on the basis of [23:45] this 5.6% at the regional level that we'll speak to [23:49] once all process. Processes are done and the region has [23:52] finalized theirs. We will also be updating the figures and [23:56] the final approved budget document that will be available to [23:59] the public will reflect the final amounts from each level. [24:02] So beyond the current year budget pressure included within our [24:07] forecast is the next two years as well as you [24:10] can see here. The pressure continues what we were discussing [24:15] back in September. Is an order of magnitude. What the [24:20] starting points for the next two years could look like [24:22] based on what we currently know, it's a continuation of [24:25] inflation, albeit not necessarily at as high of a level [24:28] as what we see today. But continuing to work in [24:31] the inflationary pressures that are on the non residential construction [24:35] and capital side will take us a few budget cycles [24:38] to fully reflect those. It also. Includes the resumption of [24:42] funding for the infrastructure deficit, as well as phase out [24:45] of the stabilization Reserve in these years, plus some of [24:48] the new growth initiatives that are either anticipated within our [24:51] budget or based on when we believe we'll assume various [24:54] infrastructure and assets through subdivision agreements. In terms of. A [25:01] comparison from a property tax perspective. I'll just share this [25:05] one graph tonight, noting there's some others available within the [25:07] budget document. This is. The total amount for the average [25:12] house. From the most recent bma study. And you can [25:15] see milton's position here. And just as a reminder, when [25:19] we talk about the per $100,000 numbers to get to [25:21] the average, it's a factor of six. So based on [25:25] the existing returned rule that we use $600,000 is an [25:29] approximate average from a residential perspective. So you can see [25:33] here. It's about a $600 per house differential to the [25:36] next municipality in our comparator group. And that $600, even [25:41] though. What the totals here are reflective of the town, [25:45] the region, and the school boards did. The difference in [25:48] the 600 is entirely at the local level. Aside from [25:51] the operating budget, also included in tonight's agenda is the [25:55] Capital Program. So this is just presenting at a summary [25:58] level what's included within the 2024 budget. The one note [26:02] that maybe makes this slightly different from a normal year [26:04] would really be with respect to funding, you would see [26:07] that this year, especially there's slightly a little more. Waiting [26:11] than what we would be normally used to seeing with [26:14] respect to the non growth investment. It's around two thirds [26:17] of the overall program. When in a normal year we [26:19] would see growth being around two thirds. So that's reflected [26:23] in the combination of the different reserves that are proposed [26:27] to fund the program. From an investment perspective, you can [26:30] see no surprise. Roads and facilities. Are generally our largest [26:34] areas of investment and there'll be no different in 2024. [26:39] So with that, I'm happy to take any questions now [26:41] or through the discussion. And I appreciate the time. Thank [26:44] you so much, Glenn, for your presentation. I have councilor [26:47] best as the first speaker. Yes. A couple of questions. [26:50] Ben. Thanks for your presentation. The work that your staff [26:53] have done regarding the Bill 23, the reductions in development [26:57] charges. How much of an impact is that having on. [26:59] Your budget. So I'll speak to this from two perspectives. [27:07] The immediate pressure from a budget perspective with respect to [27:09] development charge exemptions. We are including a small increase, $200,000 [27:14] within the property tax increase next year. For that. Really [27:17] we do need to accelerate the additional amounts we add [27:20] in future years. For that, it is expected that we're [27:23] going to spend around $5 million a year over. The [27:28] next number of years on exemptions. Those really relate largely. [27:31] And the reason we've seen the increase is because of [27:34] secondary units and the fact that those do need to [27:36] be funded from a non growth source. So we've been [27:40] slowly ramping up the amount in property taxes to fund [27:43] those kind of exemptions. From the time we started till [27:46] now, we're probably slightly short of $2 million of what [27:49] we've been accumulating. But to close the rest of the [27:51] gap to that 5 million spend before we draw on [27:54] the reserves too significantly, we are going to need to [27:57] increase the annual investment, probably in the order of around [27:59] half million dollars a year. The more recent legislative changes [28:03] in development charges affect. A number of different other areas. [28:07] We haven't been affected as significantly yet by those the [28:10] two most significant that have the most significant potential for [28:14] us would be the next time we open our development [28:16] charge bylaw in 2026. If we have to introduce the [28:19] phasing, there's a potential for the need to fund that [28:23] which would be significant because we'd be talking out of [28:25] the in the first year. Alone, 20% of all development [28:28] charge revenue and then it would be phasing down over [28:30] five years from there. Other areas where they haven't enacted [28:34] the regulations yet would be the cost of land. As [28:37] an example. So there are going to be more impacts [28:40] down the road. There isn't anything included in the property [28:42] tax increase we're proposing for next year related to those [28:45] yet, but we will continue to monitor and certainly by [28:47] the time we're in our next development charge file update, [28:50] we may be talking about what's needed to address some [28:52] of those future pressures. Thank you information. And if you [28:56] had your information back from any provincial staff regarding the [29:00] Province's commitment to making Municipalities whole, and how would you [29:03] treat. If the money was received in the province in [29:08] whatever form. So nothing specific as to what that could [29:11] look like. There has been announcement of funding such as. [29:16] I want to get the name right here, the Building [29:18] Community Fund, the one where if we exceed your growth [29:20] target, there would be funding available for municipalities. That's the [29:23] closest I've seen for something directly related to that. But [29:27] we're still at such an early stage of knowing what [29:29] the dollars could actually look like and whether it would [29:31] actually resolve some of those other pressures. And if you [29:35] were to receive this money, either from the Province or [29:37] from Builders, how would you treat that additional revenue. We [29:42] would have to look at the specific guidelines that are [29:44] provided with it to see how prescriptive they may be. [29:50] Certainly where we've had these pressures. I mentioned having to [29:52] get up to that 5 million a year. That would [29:54] be a great starting point. But we would have to [29:56] look to Council as to where the investment is best [29:58] made. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor best. Are there any [30:05] other questions to our cfo? I'm not seeing any so [30:08] thank you so much for your presentation. Okay. Well, we [30:12] will now get down to business, which is the business [30:15] of the budget. And we are going to now put [30:23] all of the recommendations from Report crs 57, two, three [30:28] on the floor. In order to allow deliberation. Once on [30:31] the floor, we will deliberate each recommendation clause individually. But [30:39] withhold the final vote to the very end such that [30:42] they can be voted on in their entirety. We will [30:46] approach it this way just in case any amendments arise [30:50] from the operating budget that affect the capital budget or [30:53] vice versa. We will also address the conflict of interest [30:57] momentarily. And to that effect, I have a nation that [31:01] has been moved by councilor Malbols and seconded by councilor [31:04] kalki to put the ten recommendations from Report Co. R. [31:08] S. On the floor for deliberation. So that is where [31:13] we will start. And due to the declared conflict of [31:17] councilor best, we will need to have a housekeeping amendment [31:20] to the wording of recommendation Number Four in order for [31:24] clarity for Counsel and the public recommendation for will now [31:29] read as follows. Four, a. That the 2024 operating budget [31:36] for Town and library. Resulting in a net tax levy [31:41] of $98,502,101, assuming 2.29. Net assessment growth as [31:51] outlined on appendix Four of this report, save and accept [31:55] the portion of the Seniors Program salaries and benefits. Be [31:59] received for review and any amendments made by Council for [32:02] B. That the 2024 operating budget for Seniors, Program salaries [32:06] and benefits in the amount of $39,512. We receive a [32:11] review on any amendments made by Council. Are there any [32:15] concerns or questions on this matter from many members of [32:18] Council councilor Chaliner? Thanks, madam Chair, I just had a [32:22] question about procedure. So I know there's a number of [32:27] amendments that have been put forward by various members of [32:31] Council for discussion. At what point are we discussing those. [32:35] I will defer to the clerk to answer that question. [32:38] Those will be forthcoming. Really, this is a housekeeping amendment [32:42] that we need to make in order to reflect the [32:45] declared conflict. So as councilor Ali noted earlier on in [32:48] the meeting, we'll have to vote separately on four B [32:51] just due to the conflict. So we'll proceed through and [32:54] address those. Clauses just as soon as we get going [32:59] with the rest of the recommendation here. So for this [33:02] purpose, this is just for housekeeping at this moment. Okay, [33:05] because I think it's fairly obvious to everybody that four [33:08] A is a bit of a problem. If you're bringing [33:09] forward amendments, you're putting the cart before the horse to [33:13] even vote on it. Four B. I get it. There's [33:15] a conflict of interest. At this point, it's not approving [33:18] any motions, just ensuring that Council is okay with splitting [33:22] out four into two clauses, four A, and four B, [33:25] which will be considered later on in the meeting. Okay. [33:29] Thank you. I'm really happy you asked that question because [33:32] it is a little bit confusing. And as we go [33:34] along clause by clause, we will achieve more clarity on [33:38] this. So seeing as there are no other questions to [33:41] this, we will proceed with the required amendments. And now [33:45] proceed through the individual recommendations. And address any motions to [33:50] amend that Council may want to consider. So I'm going [33:54] to clause one now so you can follow along. Clause [34:03] One States that the 2024 capital Budget with a gross [34:08] amount of $83,660,103 as outlined in appendix Two and the [34:15] Capital Forecast with a gross amount of 1,369,298,807. Dollars as [34:24] outlined in appendix Three of this Report be received for [34:27] review and any amendments made by Council. And as we [34:31] discussed before, this is Clause One, I have an amendment [34:34] to this clause, which is a motion. And it is [34:38] moved by councilor culkin and seconded by councilor best that [34:43] a new capital project be added to the 2024 budget [34:46] for a stop sign beacon pilot project with a funding [34:50] of $72,512 provided from the Studies and other nongrowth capital [34:57] res. Reserve and that the pilot provide for the installation. [35:02] At one always stop intersection per Ward in 2024. I [35:08] have read the motion. I will now go to the [35:10] mover and the secondary for any comments. Mover. Councilor kalki, [35:14] thank you, madam Chair. So, this motion is in relation [35:17] to some common road safety concerns and inquiries I received [35:20] from residents, particularly for motorists that fail to stop at [35:24] stop signs, which in turn usually results in collisions, near [35:27] misses and. Ultimately puts other road users at risk as [35:31] well. I'll be the first person to say that the [35:32] best way to change driver behavior for this particular offense [35:36] is through police enforcement. However, the police can't be everywhere [35:39] at once, and I felt that there was still an [35:41] opportunity to do more on the town end, and as [35:43] a result of that, began speaking with staff to look [35:46] into additional alternatives to increase the chances of. Motor Vehicle [35:49] Compliance would stop. Signs I was able to obtain collision [35:53] data for Always stop signs in all four of our [35:55] awards in the community dating back to collisions that have [35:58] occurred within a five year period. The most collision prone [36:01] intersections are as follows in Word One, the intersection of [36:04] Commercial Street and Pine Street saw six collisions in Ward [36:07] Two. The intersection of Five Side Road and Boston Church [36:10] Road saw 17 collisions. And Ward Three, the intersection of [36:13] cleric boulevard and Bennett boulevard saw seven collisions. And in [36:16] word four, the intersection of farmstead Drive in mclaughlin Avenue [36:20] saw seven collisions. So within a five year period, these [36:23] are the intersections in each part of each of our [36:26] awards that have the most collisions. And having said that [36:29] the intent of this resolution is to have flashing red. [36:32] Beacons mounted on top of all Waste Stop signs at [36:35] our four most. Collision prone intersections in all of our [36:38] wards as a one year pilot program in an effort [36:40] to reduce collisions and increased stop sign compliance, as per [36:44] the Ontario Traffic Manual, flashing red beacons are unceded to [36:46] be used in areas that have poor stop sign compliance [36:49] and a collision history with the collision data that we [36:52] do have that I mentioned a moment ago. This resolution, [36:55] if passed, would be a data driven. Approach towards furthering [36:57] our efforts to improve road safety. And I'm hoping I [37:00] can get Council support for this. Thank you, madam chair. [37:03] Thank you, councilor kalki, councilor best. Yes, madam Chair. I [37:07] fully support councilor Kelkey's recommendation. As some of us might [37:12] remember, there was a number of these. Stop red beacons [37:16] in the rural area over the years and bring them [37:19] into the urban area would also assist because unfortunately there's [37:24] the three ease of traffic enforcement, engineering and education. Unfortunately, [37:30] the provinces from my opinion, has been lacked in terms [37:34] of education. We have to. Step it up in terms [37:36] of enforcement. And engineering. We've had a real traffic issue [37:41] throughout. The ones as you mentioned here by the councilor [37:46] highlight how dangerous it is. When you have every two [37:50] months. And actually almost every three weeks happening in these [37:54] intersections, we need to find better ways. To enforce our [37:59] traffic laws and let people know that there is stopplace. [38:03] We've had numerous fatalities in this community due to people [38:07] not obeying subsigns. Thank you, Councilor. Best. Certainly. Visibility is [38:13] important. I have a speaker's list to this motion. Councilor [38:16] tesser dixon is next. Thank you, madam Chair. Just a [38:20] question of clarity to the mover and second or through [38:22] you, madam Chair, is it part of the motion that [38:25] those specific intersections will be the ones that receive the [38:28] pilot? Or that'll be something we can discuss. Councilor kalki. [38:32] Yeah. Through you, madam Chair. No, that can still be [38:35] discussed. The motion is simply to get funding secured from [38:38] our Capital Program project to be able to fund the [38:40] fact that we can do four intersections, one in each [38:43] Ward. And these are numbers that I got from collision [38:46] data within the past five years. But it's still up [38:48] to each Council to have a say in which stop [38:50] sign or intersection they would like to see. These at. [38:54] Thank you, madam Chair. Through you. I appreciate that because [38:57] the volume of accidents is startling. However, we have other [39:00] intersections where the volume may not be as high, but [39:03] the severity of the accidents can be much more serious, [39:06] mostly in our rural areas. So I like the fact [39:09] that that would be left up to the individual counselors [39:12] and traffic staff. Councilor kolki yeah. Thanks, madam Chair. And [39:15] also further to that these are collisions that get reported [39:18] and are actually documented. There's also collisions that might not [39:20] get reported. So there's that element as well. Thank you, [39:26] Councilor cocky. Anything further? Councilor tesser. Okay, going on to [39:29] the next speaker. Councilor malbos. Thank you, madam. Chair. Yeah, [39:35] I'll be supporting us in Ward four. Intersection mentioned by [39:40] the counselor zim Ward 417 basically double of any of [39:45] the other locations. So I'll support this as a pilot [39:50] project. And I would be pushing that into section be [39:53] the one in our Ward. John and I board that [39:57] have that beacon stop sign so that we can monitor [40:00] see basically what impact it does have and does it [40:03] help solve the problem or mitigate the problem? So I'll [40:05] be supporting this. Thank. You, councilor Malbout. I have councilor [40:10] Jazz. Next. Thank you, madam Chair. Prioritizing. The safety of [40:12] our residents is of utmost importance and in this pursuit, [40:16] I support this motion. By investing in this targeted safety [40:19] measure, we commit to fostering a secure environment for our [40:21] community, addressing critical aspects of road safety and safeguarding the [40:25] well being of our residents. Due to this. Reason I [40:29] support this motion. Thank you very much. Thank you, councilor [40:32] Jazz. Next I have councilor chalender. Thanks, madam Chair. In [40:36] principle, I am supportive of what is being proposed, but [40:39] I need to hear from staff in terms. Of. The [40:44] human resource implications for this. It wasn't something that was [40:47] planned for this year. And I also want to know [40:50] if they're comfortable with proceeding with it generally. Because the [40:56] cost is one thing. But who's going to do the [40:59] work? So that's my question to engineering. Okay. I think [41:03] Commissioner Hogan will answer this question. Thank you for the [41:07] question. Councilor, challenge. We do have the people power to [41:12] implement this and we are definitely supportive of it. Great, [41:17] thank you. Thank you, councilors. Any other comments or questions. [41:23] I don't see any. So I will call the vote. [41:24] Now on this motion. All those in favor. Please raise [41:28] your hand. And it is carried. [41:43] At this point I would like to ask my colleagues [41:45] on Council if there are any further motions to be [41:48] considered in relation to Clause One of the 2024 Capital [41:51] Budget and forecast. I do not see any, so I'm [41:55] going to move on to clause two. Now. Clause two [42:00] States that in accordance with. Ss 51 of the Development [42:04] Charges Act of 1997. And S. Five of Ontario, Regulation [42:10] 82, 98. It is Council's clear intention that any eligible [42:15] excess capacity provided by the 2024 Capital Program will be [42:19] paid for by future development charges. That is, clause Two. [42:24] Are there any motions to be considered in relation to [42:27] this clause. Seeing none. I will owe councilor Sorry, Mayor [42:32] Krant. No amendments to that madam Chair. And again, through [42:38] you to Glenn to drill exactly right down. Really? What [42:43] does this mean? Bottom line, I guess a little bit [42:45] of clarity just on clause, too. As I understand, I [42:48] want to be correct in my understanding of it. Thank [42:51] you, Mayor Kranst. Glenn will answer that. Both clause two [42:55] and three are really housekeeping items based on the legislation, [42:59] by having Council's clear intention. It'll make sure that we [43:04] have the opportunity to maximize our development charge utilization in [43:07] the future and make sure that we get the revenue [43:10] where we need it. Anything further, Mr. Mayor? Okay, well, [43:15] as I'm seeing no other motions to this clause, I'm [43:18] going to move to clause three. Clause three States that [43:21] any donations, grants, or subsidies applied in the 2024 Capital [43:25] Program to projects with development charges, funding are to offset [43:29] the nongrow. Nongrowthrelated cost of those projects, unless otherwise specified. [43:36] Are there any motions to be considered in relation to [43:39] this clause from any of my colleagues on Council. I [43:42] am seeing none. So I'm now going to move on [43:44] to clause four, which is as clerk advised before, has [43:48] been divided into two A and B because of the [43:51] conflict of English declared earlier in the meeting. So going [43:55] to clause for a clause for A as amended, States [43:59] that the 2024 operating budget for Town and. Library Consulting [44:04] Sorry, resulting in a net tax levy of $98,582,101, assuming [44:14] 2.29%. Net assessment growth as outlined on appendix Four of [44:19] this report, save and accept a portion of the seniors. [44:22] Program salaries and benefits be received for review and any [44:26] amendments made by Council. And to that effect. On clause [44:32] for a I have a number of motions. And the [44:36] first motion before me is moved by councilor kulki and [44:40] seconded by councilor best. That a senior transportation planning technologist [44:47] won full time employee be added to the 2024 operating [44:51] budget with funding from the tax levy of $155,055. I [44:58] will now go to the mover of the motion to [45:01] speak to it. Thanks, madam Chair. I just want to [45:04] start off by talking about the recent strategic planning that [45:07] we did. And one of the first imperatives that we [45:10] established through that planning process was that we would be [45:12] investing in people. And this is what this motion really [45:16] speaks to. And the fact that the intent is to [45:18] secure funding to hire a senior transportation technologist. This role [45:22] would provide the town. With a lead person who will [45:24] work on the Transportation Master Plan study and facilitate the [45:28] implementation of it. The position is really important because it [45:31] would play a key role in creating further active transportation [45:33] initiatives, townwide and work towards making cycling and walking a [45:37] safe and desirable alternative to driving. In addition, this position [45:41] would review the high profile. Development applications that we receive, [45:45] including those high density, mixed use developments where balancing both [45:49] vehicle and pedestrian traffic is really critical and important. This [45:52] position would also be the lead for all halton Region [45:55] Road environmental assessments and will ensure that milton has a [45:58] strong voice at that table. One of the key parts, [46:01] like I said of our strategic plan was to invest [46:03] in people and in order for us to serve milton [46:05] residents appropriately, we must make investments like these right now [46:08] rather than deferring them. To ensure we have applicable resources [46:12] in town staffing to help. Deliver positive results for our [46:14] community. Thank you. Thank you, councilor Jazz councilor best as [46:19] the seconder yes, just echoing the comments as we've seen [46:23] with. A recent high density applications. We need to have [46:28] the staff there to plan and anticipate traffic projections because [46:32] we cannot rely on consultants alone and who knows who [46:35] might even reduce costs in the future, because as we [46:38] saw in the discussions on Thompson Road and Ontario Street [46:42] and the impact of additional traffic, we need. To know [46:45] the implications and also plan ahead in terms of our [46:48] capital budgets, to make sure that we have the appropriate [46:51] traffic and also transit coordination as well. Thank you, councilor. [46:57] Best I have speakers list now. Councilor ijazz is first. [47:01] Thank you, madam. Chair. The incorporation of a senior Transportation [47:05] planning technologist into the 2024 Operations budget would exceed the [47:09] 9.5% tax increase outlined in the mayor's proposed 2024 budget, [47:13] which aligns with Council's request budget direction. To this reason, [47:17] I cannot support this motion. Thank you very much. Thank [47:20] you, councilor. Jazz, councilor challenge. The next speaker. Thanks, madam. [47:24] Chair, I can't support this motion, either. There's a couple [47:28] of things. That I think about. When I hear this. [47:34] The second thing is, Well, the first thing is we [47:36] are investing in terms of people. There's 20 new hires [47:40] coming on this year. If this budget is approved. The [47:43] fact is. That when you look at those things that [47:48] drive revenue in this Corporation. We aren't where we need [47:52] to be, whether it's housing starts or other revenue. Our [47:58] population isn't where it was projected to be. And so [48:02] the need isn't immediate. And I think staff recognized that [48:06] in not bringing it forward into the budget this year. [48:08] And I think that needs to be respected. The other [48:11] thing is. That we are way over in terms of. [48:16] A budget. That, quite frankly is satisfactory to the majority [48:20] of miltonians we're in a recession. Interest rates are high. [48:24] Mortgage defaults are increasing. People not paying their taxes is [48:30] increasing. I think 2024 is going to be like 2023. [48:36] And for that reason. I think that. We need to [48:40] really put the foot on the brake and not the [48:42] gas pedal in 2024. If we have to wait another [48:47] twelve months for this position to be filled. In my [48:50] mind that's just common sense. The need is not there [48:54] this year. Thanks. Thank you, councilor Chaliner first time Speaker [49:00] Mayor Grant. Yeah. Thank you, madam Chair Nagay. And I [49:04] cannot and will not support. The request there as well. [49:09] But just a little bit of clarity, as I recall. [49:13] The report that's going forward to Council suggest 20 new [49:18] staff people on the assumption that this was to pass [49:22] and on the assumption that the nexon was to pass. [49:24] We're talking about. 22 additional. Full time individuals correct me [49:30] if I'm wrong. Maybe our cfo can respond to that. [49:34] That's correct. Recently we were circulated with a document. [49:44] That suggests there's many people in the employee of the [49:48] town that makes over $100,000. I believe that's correct. So [49:53] I'm just assuming that those additional people will be $100,000. [49:58] So really, what we're talking about here. Is $2,200,000. In [50:05] new employees. For taxes forever. Is that what we're talking [50:11] about? Correct me if I'm wrong on that assumption. Rounding [50:14] that off at $100,000, an additional 2 million. If I [50:19] can, I'll answer that in two parts from the perspective [50:23] that what's in the tax rate in front of you [50:25] now, before these new positions for the 20 that we [50:28] identified in the book, it's around $850,000. The reason for [50:33] that is because. There are revenues from other sources. There [50:40] were contract savings, and there was some reprioritizations. There was [50:43] also some positions that won't start until October next year. [50:47] To your point, though, about what the gross cost is, [50:49] I do think the 2 million is a fair. I [50:52] don't have the exact tally for the 20 positions, but [50:54] that would be a more fair representation of the total. [50:58] Just noting, though, that. A significant amount is identified in [51:00] other forms. So I think, madam Chair, I've made my [51:04] point. And I'm well aware there may not be hired [51:06] until June or July or next October. But let me [51:10] assure you, 2025. This Council will still be here. It's [51:15] going to be felt dramatically then. And I know what's [51:18] being projected right now. As at least at twelve or [51:21] 14% increase at this point for 2025 and probably just [51:26] as much if not more for 2026. I'm talking about [51:30] the term of this Council, and I know this is [51:32] not the time for statements, but I just want to [51:34] be very clear as to what we're doing, adding more [51:38] on to the future. I make my point. Thank you, [51:41] Mr. Mayor. First time Speakers List councilor tesser dirkson is [51:46] next. Thank you, madam. Chair. A question. About long term [51:52] staffing. So in traffic. And this might be a question [51:56] that our cao answers. About. How the movement of staff [52:01] that are currently in traffic would be affected by this [52:03] position? Would it be affected? How. Would this position integrate [52:08] with the staffing plans for the rest of the Council [52:10] term, for example. Looking at our Co for response. I [52:14] mean, I can answer it, or our Commissioner can answer [52:15] it, but there's no impact on any other. It's an [52:18] additional capacity with an expertise that we don't presently don't [52:22] have in that Department. Okay, thank you. We have Councilor [52:28] Melbores as the first time. Oh, Councilor. Has a floor [52:34] and has a follow up question. I do. Thanks, Glenn. [52:38] Could you tell us what the dollar impact would be. [52:41] For this. So it would be $155,000 investment, which would [52:48] be on a per $100,000 basis. Fifty one cents. At [52:52] a local level, it would be a zero point 17% [52:55] increase on the blended. It would be 0.7%. Sorry. I'm [53:00] trying to do quick math. So on the average mpac [53:04] assessed home of $600,000 annually, it would be around $3. [53:09] Okay. Thank you. Anything further? Councilor Tesserkson. Okay, good. So [53:14] I have Councilor Melbourne next. Thank you, madam chair. I'll [53:19] not be supporting this motion. For. The reason Echo the [53:24] comments made by councilor Chaloner. Staff didn't see the need [53:30] or the priority to include this in the budget, so [53:34] I don't see it as a major priority or an [53:37] issue. And my other concern is if we brought on [53:40] this extra fte for the senior traffic strategy. I suspect [53:44] that when we look at it, we're going to hire [53:46] an outside consultant anyway. Just like we do with everything [53:49] else. So I'll not be supporting that. Thank you. I [53:53] have councilor kalki next. Thanks, madam Chair. I'm just wondering [53:57] if we could get the Commissioner, Commissioner Hogan, to speak [54:00] about the importance and this role a bit further in [54:02] relation to what it would offer, what it would provide. [54:06] Missionar Hogan. Thank you, councilor calkey. It is a senior [54:11] level position. And as the cao said, we currently don't [54:14] have that level of expertise in our division. And it's [54:17] really a holistic position that would look at milton as [54:21] a whole from a transportation planning perspective. With an eye. [54:27] To. Implement and be the lead on our broader transportation [54:31] Master Plan and all of the active transportation initiatives and [54:35] making all of those connections throughout town. As councilor culky [54:39] also said, we do have a number of very complex. [54:43] Mixed use, higher density development applications, and those reviews do [54:48] require a level of expertise that we don't currently have. [54:52] We're making things work, but I think a position such [54:56] as this could make things better. The goal is not [55:02] to retain consultants, to do this type of work and [55:05] to do it in house. And I do foresee potential [55:07] savings in that regard. Moving forward. Thank you. Thank you, [55:11] Commissioner. I have Councilor. Clark, he still has the floor. [55:15] Yes. Thank you, madam Chair. And also when we get [55:18] to the point for voting, if this could be a [55:19] recorded vote just so that's noted down. And Secondly, again, [55:22] for the cost it was mentioned, it's going to be [55:24] at the $600,003.06 in turn. Like Commissioner said, it's going [55:28] to be investing back into the community for things like [55:30] active transportation, cycling, creating those walkable communities that. We all [55:35] want to do with these high densities coming in these [55:38] new developments. It's a really important position. I feel that [55:41] we need to incorporate. Thank you, Councilor cocky. I have [55:46] Councilor challoner as the next speaker. Yeah, just very quickly. [55:51] We do have a requirement. To have the applicant get [55:55] involved in this process by hiring their own consultant. Maybe [56:01] that's going to change. I don't know. I haven't talked [56:03] to the Commissioner about it. She may not be in [56:05] a position to answer that question tonight. But at any [56:09] rate. When I see the decline right now. In high [56:14] density construction in our community. Where cranes are being pulled [56:18] down. I don't think. It's important this year. I'm not [56:22] saying that it's never important. What I'm saying is, let's [56:24] talk about it in 2025, because we have enough on [56:28] our plate in this budget. And at any rate I [56:32] will be curious down the road to see how this [56:35] position integrates. With the development community is required to do [56:40] by our Corporation today. Thanks. Thank you, councilor Chalner. I [56:44] have councilor tesser Jrkson. Next. Thank you, madam. Chair. Two [56:49] questions. Firstly, do comparator municipalities. At the same level of [56:55] progression as we are with respect to our development and [56:57] growth. Have this type of position or a comparable position. [57:01] Second. Question, and you may not be able to answer [57:04] this, but do staff foresee a savings as a result [57:07] of this position in the future. Is there a benefit [57:12] to spending the money now. The first part of your [57:16] question. Sorry if comparator municipalities. I just wrote down Yes. [57:26] Comparable municipalities would have a position of this nature in [57:31] terms of future cost savings. I do think we would [57:34] have the ability to leverage this position to reduce consulting [57:38] fees. Councilor challenger is correct. The development industry does do [57:45] their own traffic impact studies. This position would lead more [57:49] of the town initiated work, including the Transportation Master Plan [57:53] and active transportation Strategy. Moving forward. Councilor Tesla I was [57:58] debating whether to ask this question or not. Why did [58:01] staff not put this position in their proposal. Commissioner Hogan. [58:10] Thank you for the question. It was a position that [58:13] I did put forward originally in the budget and due [58:16] to other competing interests, it was not put forward. Anything [58:21] further? Councilor. Tessa. Drikson. Okay. Does the cio want to [58:28] add a comment. Okay. I'm seeing no other speakers to [58:33] this motion. So a recorded vote has been asked for, [58:36] and so I will leave it to the clerk to [58:37] deal with that. Thank you for this recorded vote. I [58:42] will ask all members. In favor of the motion to [58:47] please stand. And I will recognize you standing as in [58:50] favor. Thank you. I'm seeing Councilor culky in favor. Councilor [58:56] best in favor. Councilor Marshall in favor Councilor tesser dirkson [59:00] in favor and Councilor elite in favor. Thank you. Be [59:07] seated. I'll now ask members opposed to Please stand. I'm [59:11] seeing Mayor krantz opposed Councilor chalin are opposed. Councilor Melbourne [59:16] opposed Councilor Jazz opposed that motion is carried. Thank you, [59:22] madam chit, clerk. We will now move on to the [59:28] Second Amendment to the Clause. It's a motion moved by [59:31] councilor kalki, seconded by councilor Malbouth that a platoon chief, [59:37] one full time employee be added to the 2024 operating [59:40] budget with funding from the tax levy of. $186,723. I [59:50] will go to councilor kalki as the mover of the [59:52] motion to speak. Thank you, madam. Chair. Obviously, in the [59:55] start, we heard a delegation advocating for fire services as [59:59] well. So anyways, to move forward with this one, I [1:00:02] think it's important as well as one of the key [1:00:04] items identified in our current fire master plan was the [1:00:07] fact that we need to hire up to a total [1:00:09] of four platoon fire Chiefs in response to our forecasted, [1:00:12] municipal and Department growth. We currently have two platoon fire [1:00:15] Chiefs, and the objective towards getting towards a total of [1:00:18] four would secure sufficient. Incident Command on a 24/7 basis, [1:00:23] I want to highlight the importance of ensuring that we [1:00:25] remain on track with this particular item given that all [1:00:27] of us have rapid growth coming into our communities with [1:00:30] particular means of growth being by way of high density [1:00:33] development. It worries me when items like these are deferred, [1:00:35] and I believe that it's important to ensure that we [1:00:37] remain committed to our forecasted plans, especially as it pertains. [1:00:41] To our emergency services. Having said that the importance of [1:00:44] having sufficient incident command when responding to and dealing with [1:00:47] an emergency situation is vital towards contributing towards the overall [1:00:51] safety and well being of our community. Having strong incident [1:00:54] command allows for an emergency response to become more efficient, [1:00:57] improves communication span of control, and allows for. A more [1:01:01] organized and structured response to an emergency. I'm proud of [1:01:04] the investments we've made thus far into fire. However, I [1:01:07] feel like we need to move further right now, like [1:01:11] I said, to ensure we have better staffing for our [1:01:13] fire Department to reach the targets outlined in our fire [1:01:16] master plan. Thank you. Thank you. Councilor palky. Councilor Malbol [1:01:20] says the secondary. Right. Thank you, madam. Chair. I'm having [1:01:24] a second and support this nation number one priority. Of [1:01:30] this Council is not only the safety protection of our [1:01:32] residents, but of our employees as well. This position was [1:01:38] included in our Fire Master plan. That we had approved [1:01:42] and should have been included in this budget. Removing this [1:01:46] position to save $186,000 while we're spending nearly $1 million [1:01:51] on an arts center to me, doesn't make sense, but [1:01:55] maybe I have my priorities wrong. So I would ask [1:01:59] this Council to support this motion and support our fire [1:02:02] Department. Thank you, Councilor Malbout. I have a Speaker Councilor [1:02:07] challenge. Next. Thanks madam Chair, I won't be supporting the [1:02:12] motion. The Fire Master plan. Is Unfortunately. I don't want [1:02:20] to say that it's completely irrelevant, but it's becoming irrelevant. [1:02:24] As I explained earlier when I was asked about supporting [1:02:27] this motion. The six individuals who are now a part [1:02:31] of the 911 program were not a part of that [1:02:35] Master plan. Things have changed, and the master plan needs [1:02:39] to be changed to reflect that. Unfortunately. And again I [1:02:43] go back. To. We don't have the population. We don't [1:02:49] have the level of development of activity. We have a [1:02:54] fire station that isn't being fully utilized today. And we [1:02:59] can't wait twelve months to reconsider this. When staff have [1:03:05] recommended that it be put off for twelve months, that's [1:03:08] all they're asking us to do. And that's all we're [1:03:11] asking of ourselves. And when you look at the metrics, [1:03:14] the metrics don't support. Today, the demand for this position [1:03:19] immediately. The metrics today support the need for six people [1:03:24] to get us into the 21st century with a 911 [1:03:27] system that wasn't contemplated in the last fire Master plan. [1:03:31] So in addition to that, I go back to and [1:03:34] I'm sorry if it comes across as a harangue, but [1:03:37] our current economic situation. Demands that we be fiscally responsible [1:03:43] more so than ever before. And it's not going to [1:03:47] make a difference in twelve months. We're not at risk [1:03:52] if we were at any kind of risk. We'd be [1:03:56] hearing from the insurance companies of Canada, and we'd be [1:03:59] hearing from our residents because the cost of ensuring their [1:04:03] homes and their businesses would be going up. They aren't [1:04:05] as a result of our fire service support in this [1:04:09] community, we have excellent fire service support. We can wait [1:04:13] until the 2025 budget to look at. This. And as [1:04:17] I indicated, and as we all know, things have changed. [1:04:20] Thank you. Thank you, councilor Chaliner. I have councilor adil [1:04:24] kalki. Next. Thanks, madam Chair frankenstein to maybe ask the [1:04:28] questions to the fire Chief if he could further speak [1:04:30] to the importance of what this rule would entail if [1:04:34] it was added back into the budget. And given the [1:04:36] fact that it's not in the budget as it stands [1:04:38] right now. If we weren't funding the communication staff, would [1:04:42] we still be having this investment being put into the [1:04:45] budget if that wasn't there. Thank you, Chief ghetto, I [1:04:50] see you at the podium. Please proceed. Thank you, madam. [1:04:53] Chair to the role of Platoon Chief. Platoon Chief reports [1:04:57] directly to the Deputy Fire Chief. Functions as a Supervisor [1:05:00] who coordinates supervisors and participates in firefighting related activities and [1:05:05] coordinates between the other divisions. Public Education, prevention. Training and [1:05:10] other activities. Platoon chief's primary role is emergency response. I [1:05:14] think that was already discussed. And they improved the scene [1:05:17] through communication span of control and they delineate honesty and [1:05:21] personnel's roles and responsibilities. Platoon chief, specialize. They're specialized experts [1:05:28] in leadership and instant command. They manage complex instance. A [1:05:33] complex incident would be a high rise fire, a large [1:05:35] industrial fire. A firefighter May day or rescue, and they [1:05:40] ultimately contribute to the overall safety and well being of [1:05:43] our community. They also have administrative tasks that offset the [1:05:48] workload of the Deputy Chiefs. They improve also our effective [1:05:52] response force because it allows the captives to work at [1:05:56] a tactical level, while an instant commander works at a [1:05:58] strategic level and also creates an extra layer. Of management [1:06:03] during large. Scale Disasters and Supports our Emergency Operations Center. [1:06:09] Thank you, Chief. Anything further, Councilor kulfi? Yes. Thank you, [1:06:12] Chief, for that. So obviously that right there speaks to [1:06:15] the gravity of what this rule would entail and how [1:06:18] important it is and making sure we get to where [1:06:21] we need to be will help us get to that [1:06:22] point where we have 24/7 incident command and adequate emergency [1:06:26] response. Again, emergency. Services, they get paid for what they're [1:06:31] expected to do many of the times compared to what [1:06:33] they're actually doing. And when an emergency happens, which is [1:06:36] obviously hard to predict. It's really, really important that we [1:06:40] have those resources. This would bring us a step closer [1:06:42] towards fulfilling our requirements under the Master Plan, which was [1:06:45] created obviously for a particular reason to satisfy the growth [1:06:50] that we're seeing in the community. Thank you, Council. Cookie. [1:06:53] Thank you, chief. Next on my Speaker's list is councilor [1:06:57] Best. Yes. Thank you, madam Chair. And I support the [1:07:02] motion here and especially accounts for Malhos comments as well. [1:07:07] Staff have presented the budget and the best their ability. [1:07:10] We have to look at it. And not only how [1:07:13] much, but also where we're spending our money. I initially [1:07:16] would have supported six firefighters, as the chief mentioned, unfortunately, [1:07:20] wasn't able to get that in in time, but I [1:07:22] certainly support the one platoon chief, but I could sympathize [1:07:25] with councilor Chowner's concerns. It may be reduced and residential, [1:07:31] but all you have to do is call along James [1:07:32] Snow parkway in Fifth Line and see the millions of [1:07:35] square feet of construction going on right now from large [1:07:38] corporations with buildings. That when a firefighter gets there, we [1:07:42] don't know what's in there unless they have the planning [1:07:45] and the staffing ahead of time to plan out how [1:07:48] to fight a fire. Because when you have a million [1:07:50] square foot building as we've seen. By some on browning [1:07:54] Street North recently, you don't know what's in there. And [1:07:58] unless you have the staff that have the experience in [1:08:01] training, you might be sending someone in there to be [1:08:04] injured or killed if you don't know how to do [1:08:06] it right. So I certainly support this. And I support [1:08:10] anticipating ahead of time, not reacting after the fact. Thank [1:08:13] you, Councilor. Best Councilor Jazz is next. Thank you, madam [1:08:16] Chair, this is a question for staff, the six firefighters, [1:08:19] the individuals that are being added to Ng, 911. When [1:08:26] do they start. Do they get employed in the upcoming [1:08:30] year, or. When the program goes to. So of the [1:08:36] six, there are two that are expected to be part [1:08:38] of the project implementation, so they would start earlier in [1:08:40] the year in February, and they're funded from capital. The [1:08:45] tax dollars for all six positions begins at the start [1:08:47] of October next year, and then annualizes fully in 2025. [1:08:53] Anything further? Councilor. Jess. Thank you, madam chair. Councilor cokey's. [1:08:59] Next. Thanks, madam Chair. Two things. One again recorded vote [1:09:02] for this one as well, please. And two, it wasn't [1:09:05] brought up by any of the other Council, but I [1:09:06] want to talk about the cost associated to this in [1:09:08] gwen. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here. [1:09:10] But what I have here is this would impact the [1:09:13] overall rate by zero point 21%. Change the blended to [1:09:16] 0.8%. Which would equate to a 60 residential assessment value [1:09:22] increase. So if my math is correct here at that [1:09:24] 600,000 number, it'll be three point sixty six cents to [1:09:27] fund this particular position. Is that correct on your end [1:09:31] as well? Correct. Okay. I'm glad we have that clarity. [1:09:35] Now. I'm looking around and seeing if any of my [1:09:36] other colleagues have any questions. I'm seeing none. So a [1:09:41] recorded work has been called and I will leave it [1:09:43] to the clerk to take it from here. Thank you. [1:09:46] I'd like to ask all members who are in favor [1:09:48] of the motion to please stand. I see Councilor [1:09:58] cokey in favor of a motion. Councilor Best in favor [1:10:01] of the motion. Councilor Marshall in favor of the motion. [1:10:04] Councilor Malbuff in favor of the motion. Councilor tesser dirkson [1:10:07] in favor of the motion. Councilor Jazz in favor of [1:10:11] the motion. Can I now, please ask. Members to be [1:10:15] seated. Councilor elite. Excuse me in favor of the motion. [1:10:19] Can I now ask for members who are opposed. Please [1:10:22] stand. And I'm seeing councilor chalin are opposed, and Mayor [1:10:26] cramps opposed. That motion is carried. Thank you, Colleagues. That [1:10:32] motion is carried. As the clerks just mentioned, we will [1:10:35] move on to the next. Motion, which is basically an [1:10:42] amendment to clause four, a. It is moved by councilor [1:10:45] tesser, dirkson, and seconded by councilor. Oh, I see the. [1:10:51] Apologize. Yeah. Just before you move on, madam Chair there [1:10:56] with regards to what just happened in those two or [1:10:59] three previous motions, I'd like to know the total and [1:11:03] what impact that has, because the next two are reasonably [1:11:07] complicated. I think I've got it figured out. But I [1:11:09] think. It's important on bottom line. Where we're presently at. [1:11:14] Because I think we're getting very close to double digits. [1:11:18] 9.5 is close enough for me to call it double [1:11:21] digits, but I think we're inching closer to it. So [1:11:24] good. Gosh only knows on the next two motions. But [1:11:27] may or may not happen. So little clarity on what [1:11:32] the possibility is on the assumption that the next two [1:11:35] motions were to pass, and if they didn't pass, what [1:11:39] impacted is this already got on what we just passed. [1:11:43] Thank you, Mayor Cranza. I know that I saw our [1:11:46] financial team crunching numbers all along, so I'm pretty sure [1:11:48] they have a number ready for us. We do at [1:11:51] the local level. We are sitting at 9.88%. On the [1:11:56] blended level. We're at 5.93%. We've added dollar and assessment. [1:12:04] So $6.0.66 on an average house. Madam Chair. Thank You, [1:12:09] Mr. Mayor. Any other questions or comments from my colleagues. [1:12:16] Seeing none. I will move on. To the next motion, [1:12:20] which is moved by councilor tesser dirkson and seconded by [1:12:23] councilor Marshall that the transfer from the Tax stabilization Reserve [1:12:28] to the 2024 operating Budget be reduced by $750,000. With [1:12:35] an equivalent increase in the net tax levy in order [1:12:38] to fund the related ongoing expenses. I've read the motion. [1:12:43] I will go to the mover of the motion. Councilor. [1:12:45] Tesser. Dirkson. Now, thank you, madam Chair. Will. This motion [1:12:49] certainly isn't as shiny as the other two. It's a [1:12:53] little bit dry, but frankly, it's a motion about sound [1:12:57] financial management. And in reviewing the budget, I had noticed [1:13:00] that 1.7 million was being transferred from the tax rate [1:13:02] stabilization. Reserve Fund in order to mitigate the impact to [1:13:06] taxpayers. That bothered me a little bit going into the [1:13:10] projections for next year and the year after that and [1:13:12] the year after that. In speaking to Staff originally, this [1:13:16] motion, I was debating 1.5 million. And when we looked [1:13:22] at the numbers. We just had to take into consideration [1:13:25] what kind of impact that was going to have on [1:13:27] the average person. So the figure we arrived at was [1:13:30] $750,000. And to continue to pull from the tax rate [1:13:35] stabilization Reserve bothers me for a number of reasons. Number [1:13:37] one, it doesn't align with our financial management policies, which [1:13:40] we have committed, to which we have. And we have [1:13:44] significant pressures going into next year. We've already heard 2023 [1:13:46] and 2024 going to be similar. 2025, 2026. Probably worse. [1:13:52] And I have heard some talk that 2027 2028 is [1:13:55] going to level out. I don't have a Crystal ball. [1:13:57] All it takes is another pandemic. Another war that affects [1:14:01] supply chain inflation. I don't want to kick this can [1:14:05] down the road. I want us to stare it in [1:14:08] the face and make the difficult decision to be shouldn't [1:14:12] be a difficult decision to make a sound financial decisions [1:14:15] for our residents and for ourselves. So that's the basis [1:14:18] of this motion. As far as a dollar amount, I'm [1:14:21] really focused on the dollar impact, the wallet impact to [1:14:24] the average person. And we figured that it was $14.68, [1:14:29] I believe. For the average home per year. That averages [1:14:34] out to I think a dollar 22 a month. In [1:14:38] order for us to say to our residents that we [1:14:40] thought hard and long about how we're managing their money, [1:14:43] how we're managing our reserves. And I think it's something [1:14:46] that I can certainly justify to residence. And I'm sure [1:14:48] others can, too. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor. Just the [1:14:52] secondary of the motion. Councilor Marshall. So christina, councilor Tesla [1:14:57] had the chance. To take all the excellent talking points. [1:15:02] But I just want to remind everybody that when we [1:15:05] looked at this exact thing last year, that we said [1:15:08] we were going to defer payment until this year, and [1:15:10] now we're here. So I want everybody to just remember [1:15:14] what type of planning was intended at this time last [1:15:18] year, before deciding. What to do this year? And is [1:15:22] it actually worth deferring this till next year or the [1:15:25] year after when we've already seen what those potential impacts [1:15:29] are going to be. Thank you, councilor Marshall. I'm looking [1:15:34] around to see if any of my other colleagues have [1:15:36] any comments to add. Councilor Chaliner has a comment. Thanks [1:15:41] madam Chair, I won't be supporting the motion. And. I [1:15:49] really wish individual members of Council would get away from [1:15:52] what this is costing per unit or per program or [1:15:57] per individual because. Taxpayers look at the cumulative effect. The [1:16:03] bottom line. And at this point. We're going to be [1:16:07] well over 6% well over 10% if we do this. [1:16:12] Is not good financial management. To not use this without [1:16:17] something to replace it with it's. Poor financial management. And. [1:16:24] I indicated and I don't know how many people read [1:16:26] the Q and a's. But you'll recall if you attended [1:16:29] the last meeting. I talked to the Treasurer about establishing [1:16:34] two income funds. Essentially. To. Replace. The Tax stabilization rate. [1:16:42] Reserve. As a revenue source for the operating budget. And [1:16:47] to replace the non growth reserve with an income fund [1:16:51] so that it is funded that way and not through [1:16:55] the operating budget. That's good financial management. We have a [1:17:00] revenue problem and. We have done nothing in this budget [1:17:05] to address that. And it's the second time that we've [1:17:08] had this in the last three years. I'd forgotten about [1:17:12] 2021, but we had a problem then, too. It was [1:17:15] fairly obvious what it was. In my view. If Council [1:17:21] Marshall and councilor tesser dirkson said this is the last [1:17:25] year. I would support that. But at this point, that's [1:17:29] not what they're asking. We simply can't afford to do [1:17:33] that. And please. Don't. Say things like it's only $14 [1:17:38] a month or whatever it is, it's meaningless. What is [1:17:41] the cumulative effect of this budget on taxpayers? Everything else [1:17:45] is pointless. Mindless, quite frankly, and insulting. If they said [1:17:49] this is the last year they've got my support. Because [1:17:54] in January, we're going to have as a counsel a [1:17:56] workshop where we're going to discuss these income funds and [1:17:59] how they could replace the Tax stabilization Reserve. I agree [1:18:03] with councilor tesser dirkson. This is not how it should [1:18:06] be used. The Treasurer knows that I've made that clear. [1:18:09] It's here to deal with end of year balance issues. [1:18:14] Yes, you can use it for the purpose. We've been [1:18:15] using it for the last ten years, but it's not [1:18:17] good fiscal management. And so I can't support. This. I [1:18:22] have thought long and hard about an alternative. I've been [1:18:25] discussing it with the cao and the Treasurer since the [1:18:28] summertime. This is a serious issue. And what is being [1:18:34] proposed is not good financial management. What we will discuss [1:18:37] in January is a move in the right direction towards [1:18:40] good financial management. And I hope it's something that happens [1:18:43] so I can't support this. I apologize. Thank you, councilor [1:18:47] chaloner. I have councilor just as the next speaker. Thank [1:18:50] you, madam Chair. I respectfully disagree with the proposal to [1:18:53] reduce the transfer from the Tax stabilization Reserve to the [1:18:56] 2024 operating budget by $750,000. With an equivalent increase in [1:19:03] the net tax levy. This adjustment will result in a [1:19:05] higher tax increase for milton residents, placing an added burden [1:19:09] on taxpayers. On a separate note, we started with the [1:19:11] mayor's budget, which aligns seamlessly with the Council's requested budget [1:19:15] direction of 9.5%. Now with the previous additions, the tax [1:19:19] increase is standing at nine point. 88% that can support [1:19:23] that, but anything above this. 9.88%. I cannot support. Thank [1:19:27] you, madam Chair. Thank you for your comments. Councilor Jazz, [1:19:31] I have Councilor kalki next. Thanks, madam Chair. Just wondering [1:19:34] if cfo can comment on. This particular item and how [1:19:38] it is in terms of financial management, the particular move [1:19:41] that's being made here. So the biggest effect of this [1:19:45] if it were approved, would be the relief in future [1:19:48] years budgets where we are forecasting pressures that are higher [1:19:50] than what is currently being contemplated for approval for 2024. [1:19:57] I do think that as recommended, it is a reasonable [1:20:01] and appropriate use of stabilization fund if there is a [1:20:05] concrete plan to unwind it while they're still funding in [1:20:07] that reserve balance. But ultimately from a revenue perspective, looking [1:20:12] at service levels and sustainable revenue sources, it really is [1:20:16] only meant to bridge. From what the tax rate currently [1:20:19] is, to what it needs to be to support the [1:20:21] service levels that there are as to how quickly we [1:20:24] go there. It really is a decision of counsel weighing [1:20:27] the factors such as what is a reasonable change at [1:20:30] the property tax base, what service levels are expected, and [1:20:34] how long we can sustain drawings in that stabilization reserve, [1:20:38] right. Now you'll see in the forecast. It is shown [1:20:41] to go from right now around the target balance around [1:20:43] $8 million to around 4.6 million after we've used this [1:20:48] for a few years of phasing it out. One of [1:20:51] the benefits of this motion would be is additional funding [1:20:54] in that stabilization reserve balance closer to the target. When [1:20:57] we come out of the next few years of pressures. [1:21:00] So ultimately. There is a number of different answers here, [1:21:05] and ultimately, Council can decide which is the most appropriate. [1:21:10] Thank you to our cfo for that answer. Councilor. Ijaz [1:21:13] is next. Thank you, madam Chair. This is a question [1:21:16] for Glenn. If this motion were to pass, what would [1:21:19] that 9.88% increase to. So the 9.88 would become ten [1:21:26] point 72. From a local tax rate change perspective, the [1:21:30] blended total would become 6.27%, which is $46 per 100,000 [1:21:36] of assessment. And started scrolling down $276 from an average [1:21:45] house perspective. Thank you, madam. Chair. Thank you, councilor Jeff. [1:21:52] Any other speakers to the motion. Councilor best. Yeah. Just [1:21:57] as councilor Chowner raised some interesting points here regarding our [1:22:01] reserves. What is the return that we're getting on our [1:22:04] reserves and reserve funds? I take it they are all [1:22:08] invested. I just want to see how that compares with [1:22:11] a potential income fund. Looking at the cfo for a [1:22:14] response. So within the budget, we've assumed from the overall [1:22:20] portfolio perspective, a total return averaging 3.95% next year. That [1:22:25] would be the highest amount we realized in recent years, [1:22:28] in part because we're going to be starting the year [1:22:30] with the relatively high rates that we have today, especially [1:22:33] on the shorter term investments. Keeping in mind that. The [1:22:37] portfolio is a mix of the more liquid funding that [1:22:40] we have. In those savings accounts versus the longer term [1:22:44] investments that were already locked into. In terms of that [1:22:47] income, funds. I do think and our suggestion was to [1:22:51] explore that further in the workshop setting so we could [1:22:54] make sure. We're addressing Council's intentions with it. The thing [1:22:58] will have to be balancing in that is that the [1:22:59] seed funding for that fund is likely to come from [1:23:02] those existing reserves which are already being invested and ideally [1:23:06] to maximize the return that we can get given when [1:23:08] the timing of the draw on those reserves. Maybe. Thank [1:23:12] you for the answer. Just the last question in terms [1:23:15] of provincial regulations. What are the limitations we have on [1:23:20] investments. So the primary investment tool for municipalities are areas [1:23:25] in fixed income. In terms of especially in the bond [1:23:29] market. There has been introductions to allow for equity in [1:23:32] one of two ways, either through the One fund, which [1:23:35] is a professionally managed investment tool for municipalities. That's the [1:23:38] one that our current. Town bylaw currently allows for and [1:23:44] then separately, there's the prudent Investment standard, which we're not [1:23:48] entertaining at this stage, given the size of our portfolio [1:23:51] and the cost and the process involved. We also do [1:23:55] invest in other investment tools, such as the Savings Account [1:23:59] Reference gics. But it's very much just fixed income oriented [1:24:03] strategy. And then within our own town guidelines are the [1:24:05] limitations in terms of how much exposure to federal provincial [1:24:09] notes, how much. To the corporate and banking sector and [1:24:13] the overall balance that we're allowed to work with him. [1:24:17] Thank you very much. Thank you. Councilor. Best I have [1:24:20] councilor tessard next. Thank you very much, madam Chair. Just [1:24:24] to note, councilor Chalner is correct in that there's nothing [1:24:27] wrong with looking for additional revenue sources. And I'm fully [1:24:30] fully supportive of that. If we find a way to [1:24:32] fund an income reserve or an income fund. I would [1:24:36] be supportive if it was reasonable and made sense. However, [1:24:41] like I said, I don't want to kick this down [1:24:43] the can because an income reserve is not guaranteed. We [1:24:46] don't know where we're going to get the seed money [1:24:48] from. If the Income Reserve Fund works out great, we'll [1:24:52] have an easier year next year in addition to this [1:24:55] motion. And if it doesn't go ahead, we'll still have [1:24:58] an easier time next year because of this motion. Thank [1:25:04] you, councilor tesser Jackson. I have councilor Chaliner. Next. Thanks. [1:25:11] So again it's in the notes. The cfo talked about [1:25:15] a one fund and the return on that is significant [1:25:18] compared to the investments. We currently have. Double of many [1:25:24] of them. The seed money, yes, would come from our [1:25:28] current reserves. But for example, if it came from. A [1:25:34] GIC that was maturing at 1.5%. You're far better off [1:25:40] taking that ten or $15 million and putting it into [1:25:43] the One fund because you're going to see a pretty [1:25:47] rapid return. Within twelve months. And there are other funds [1:25:53] as well. I'm sure the cfo is looking at contemplating [1:25:58] my questions. The main issue. I have. Is. [1:26:08] Yes, we are kicking the can down the road. We've [1:26:10] been kicking it down the road for the last decade [1:26:13] again. There's a table in there that shows what we've [1:26:15] been doing. I'm not confident that. Without an income fund [1:26:24] or a revenue source that we won't kick the can [1:26:27] down next year because. What I see too much of [1:26:32] is a lack of fiscal discipline. And it's a shared [1:26:37] responsibility. It starts with senior Staff and it concludes around [1:26:44] this table. And quite frankly. The most important place that [1:26:49] has to occur is here. And I don't see that [1:26:51] happening. I don't have that confidence. And. I think that [1:26:59] simple logic and common sense is you ended as soon [1:27:02] as. You have a plan to end it with and [1:27:08] I'm hoping. That in January, we put the pins in [1:27:12] place as a Council to provide financial stability for future [1:27:16] generations by considering. Would I been proposing to Senior staff. [1:27:22] Because I'm as frustrated by this as anybody else around [1:27:26] this table is maybe even more. I go back. I [1:27:29] reflect on the time my 1st 15 years here. We [1:27:32] never did this kind of stuff. We didn't blend our [1:27:38] tax rate with the region. We stood up and we [1:27:40] managed budgets as they were. We didn't look. For any [1:27:47] kind of subsidy within or without. And we need to [1:27:51] get back. To as much of that as we possibly [1:27:55] can. Because we don't know what's ahead of us. Councilor [1:27:58] tesser Durkson is exactly right. We don't know what's going [1:28:04] to happen in the next couple of years. I don't [1:28:07] have confidence, quite frankly. That any of our future projections [1:28:11] are accurate. And I don't know how they can be [1:28:14] unless you've got some sort of special Crystal ball. And [1:28:17] so I'm not criticizing the cfo. He's doing the best [1:28:20] job he possibly can under. Very difficult circumstances. But what [1:28:24] that demands is. A plan that brings in revenue on [1:28:29] a consistent basis where you aren't robbing Peter to pay [1:28:34] Paul, which is exactly what we're doing with the stabilization [1:28:37] reserve. So my message suck it up for one more [1:28:42] year. Let's figure it out in January, and let's get [1:28:45] going. But I'm not in favor of this motion. Thank [1:28:50] you, councilor Chalner. I'm looking around to see if any [1:28:53] of my other colleagues have any comments. Questions to add. [1:28:58] I'm seeing none. So no recorded vote has been called [1:29:01] for, so I'm going to call the vote. Now, all [1:29:03] those in favor of this motion, please raise your hand. [1:29:07] All those opposed. Motion fails. We are now moving on [1:29:16] to the next motion, which will be the last motion [1:29:19] to clause for a. And it is moved by councilor [1:29:29] chaloner and seconded by councilor malbos. Whereas the proposed town [1:29:34] of milton 2024 property tax increase when blended with the [1:29:39] regional municipality of halton and School board's 2024 operating budgets [1:29:44] will net out at Five point. 37% if the region [1:29:50] and the school board's budgets are approved, as Is and [1:29:53] whereas the proposed 2024 Town of milton property tax increase [1:29:58] when blended with the regional municipality of halton School Boards [1:30:02] and proposed halton Regional Police Services, operating budgets could net [1:30:07] out. At about 5.78% if they are approved as proposed. [1:30:13] And whereas milton is in economic recession, interest rates are [1:30:18] high, food inflation is continuing unabated, and an increasing number [1:30:22] of miltonians are defaulting on their mortgages and not paying [1:30:26] their property taxes. Therefore. Be it result that in order [1:30:32] to provide financial relief to hard hit milton families, the [1:30:36] Town of milton 2024 operating budget achieve a 5% blended [1:30:42] property tax rate objective. And further Be, it resolved that [1:30:48] the 36 million purchased goods and services. Line items in [1:30:51] the 2024 Town of milton operating budget be reduced in [1:30:55] order to achieve a 5% blended tax rate total requiring [1:31:00] an estimated reduction of 825,000. To 1,770,000. Dollars depending on [1:31:10] the final budgets established for halton Region and the halton [1:31:14] Regional Police service. I have read the motion and you [1:31:17] can see it on the screen as well. I will [1:31:19] now go to the mover of the motion to speak [1:31:22] to the motion. Councilor chaloner. Thanks, madam chair. And Council [1:31:28] recall from last year, when I brought this forward. Staff [1:31:33] didn't love this. I can tell you they still don't. [1:31:37] Reluctant was the word. I got back and I understand [1:31:40] that. But. When I saw. Where we were netting out [1:31:46] and when I see where we're netting out tonight. We [1:31:50] don't have the revenue. And when you don't have the [1:31:54] revenue, you've got to do with your expenses as well. [1:31:57] And all of our leading indicators are falling at this [1:32:00] point. And what are we doing. To try to bring [1:32:06] ourselves into balance. And while I support a lot of [1:32:10] the things that are in the new budget. The new [1:32:13] proposed budget. I think we have to take a look [1:32:16] at those auxiliary things that we're spending on. And much [1:32:22] of it is in that $36 million purchase, goods and [1:32:25] services, budget. And take a hard look at it. And [1:32:30] provide some discipline that way. And. This is. The least [1:32:35] challenging way to deal with that. Where does that nation [1:32:38] come from? Well. I spent 40 years in business. Not [1:32:43] all of them were rosy years. I always spent most [1:32:45] of my career in technology in the we had some [1:32:49] pretty tough times, 80s as well. And whenever revenue was [1:32:53] not going to make the expense line, the expense line [1:32:56] had to get cut. You had to balance the budget, [1:32:58] you had to make money. And typically, that's where you [1:33:01] started first. You avoided going to headcount. Sometimes we had [1:33:08] to. And I'm not proposing that this evening. At all. [1:33:17] But. I'm supportive of, for example, of the six positions [1:33:20] to deal with 911, the benefits of that are going [1:33:23] to be groundbreaking. So that is it in a nutshell. [1:33:30] We're in a tough place with our economy. I think [1:33:33] that we need to swing a little bit harder at [1:33:36] our operating budget when we look at places to reduce. [1:33:39] I don't think that we've necessarily looked hard enough. We've [1:33:43] reduced proposed spending, but we haven't reduced actual spending. And [1:33:48] that's why I brought it forward. What is my sense [1:33:51] of optimism about this passing tonight? Low. But I want [1:33:57] you to know that I was thinking about it. That [1:34:01] there are ways around this, but. It takes. A little [1:34:06] creativity. And leadership, quite frankly. And I know there's a [1:34:13] lot of people in milton right now who are hurting. [1:34:15] I hear from them. And they're looking to us to [1:34:20] help them in a very difficult year, which may prove [1:34:23] to be a couple of difficult years. Thanks. Thanks, councilor [1:34:27] Chalner, councilor melbo as a secondary. Thank you, madam Chair. [1:34:32] I agreed to second the motion to get this on [1:34:35] the floor and wanted to see exactly where we were [1:34:37] going. But based on the numbers that are in the [1:34:40] motion and everything else, we're way over that and we're [1:34:42] not going to hit those numbers. So I don't know [1:34:45] if the motion is redundant or what. There are a [1:34:47] lot of areas that. We could be using. To reduce [1:34:53] the tax burden for our residents. Outside consultants. I believe [1:34:58] we spend too much money on outside consultants. There's a [1:35:01] way there. Our facilities, our sports facilities, the art center. [1:35:06] Can't we make those more efficient and cost effective to [1:35:09] reduce the cost on taxpayers. Private sector sports centers break [1:35:15] even or make money for some reason. Our facilities we [1:35:18] lose $4 million a year. We have a transit system [1:35:21] that costs $7.7 million a year. That's used by less [1:35:25] than 2% of our population. That comes out to about [1:35:29] $3,500 a person arriving. We can buy them each a [1:35:33] car for less than that. So there are a lot [1:35:36] of areas, but Unfortunately. I can't see that happening. The [1:35:41] political will is not there. So. We're already at. Almost. [1:35:47] 10%. That's as high as I can go. So I'll [1:35:51] support the budget of the way it stands now, but [1:35:53] hopefully this will be the end of it. Thank you, [1:36:00] Councilor malpa. Councilor Jazz is next. Thank you, madam Chair, [1:36:03] this is a question for Glenn. Glenn, can you tell [1:36:07] us if I saw the blended rate? But what would [1:36:10] be the local rate if this was to happen. So [1:36:14] maybe just quickly before speaking to the rates. One quick [1:36:16] update. So when we provided the range that's in the [1:36:18] motion itself up to 1.77. That was based on what [1:36:24] potential changes could happen at the region. One thing I [1:36:27] hadn't factored in when helping provide that number was what [1:36:30] other decisions may have occurred here tonight. So. With the [1:36:34] two amendments that have been made to date, it would [1:36:36] be a $2.1 million reduction. In the purchase services and [1:36:41] goods to achieve the 5% blended. Assuming again that the [1:36:45] region finalizes at the current number, the ultimate impact of [1:36:49] this motion won't be able to be fully calculated until [1:36:52] after the region has gone through their entire process. But [1:36:54] right now it would be 2.1 million. So on that [1:36:58] basis, what it would mean at a local level would [1:37:00] be a 7.55% change in our local budget with that [1:37:04] $2 million removed, and then the blended would come to [1:37:07] that 5% number that is the intended target. Thank you, [1:37:12] madam Chair. And thank you, Glenn. Thank you, councilor. Jazz. [1:37:15] Next is councilor best. Yes. Thank you, madam Chair. Just [1:37:20] a question regarding this. I understand. Where councilor Melbourne are [1:37:24] coming from, but two staff, either the cio or Treasurer, [1:37:28] the 36 million looking. 2.1. What impact would this have [1:37:33] and what risks you see in this. I'll feel that [1:37:37] one first. I see this significant in order to arrive [1:37:41] at the 36 million, there's already been a number of [1:37:44] reductions not just in purchase goods and services, but across [1:37:46] the board in the budget process, some of the specific [1:37:49] areas that help get us to that million dollar reduction [1:37:52] we're in areas like the utilities that we're purchasing at [1:37:54] the facilities at some of the It contracts. So some [1:37:57] of the very items that are in here. So 2.1 [1:38:00] million out of that 36 when you look at which [1:38:03] services we're spending that external funding on it's in road [1:38:07] operations, it's in transit, it's in our facilities. And it's [1:38:10] in our it is our biggest areas of spend. And [1:38:13] so to achieve 2.1 it would result in service level [1:38:16] impacts. I'm confident in saying that even though we haven't [1:38:19] gone through the exercise yet to identify specifically where we [1:38:23] would go about that because of service level changes being [1:38:26] involved. Ultimately, we would bring that back to Council. As [1:38:29] that's really where service level decisions are best made. Anything [1:38:33] further, Councilor best. Well, maybe the cio could comment on [1:38:36] this. Yeah, I would just add. The most important piece [1:38:39] was the ending to glenn's statement is that we'd be [1:38:42] looking for counsel to identify those service level cuts. Just [1:38:48] to inform counsel that to my knowledge that there is [1:38:51] no more proposed changes at the Regional Council, I don't [1:38:53] believe anyone's adding or subtracting. So what you see. Being [1:38:59] proposed. The Regional Council is what's going to come through. [1:39:03] Fortunately the police are looking at hiring it was a [1:39:06] 48 new officers. So that's where the major increase is [1:39:09] going to be. Plus, we also have inflation. I believe. [1:39:13] Correct hearing from Staff 80% of our budget is due [1:39:16] to inflation and. Having approved two other budgets recently, a [1:39:21] lot of these costs aren't going down. We're going to [1:39:24] be increasing, not decreasing. So looking at some I appreciate [1:39:29] where councilor Chowner is coming from, but it's going to [1:39:32] be very difficult on this unless we're looking at some [1:39:34] major service cuts. Thank you, councilor. Best. Are there any [1:39:39] other comments or questions on this motion? I am seeing [1:39:43] none. So I will call the vote now all those [1:39:45] in favor of this motion. O, councilor chaliner. All those [1:39:51] in favor of this motion. Please raise your hand. All [1:39:53] those opposed. Motion fails. With this. Ladies and gentlemen, we [1:40:03] come to the end of the motions or amendments to [1:40:06] clause four, A, and I can confirm that all motions [1:40:11] on the 2024 operating budget of Town and Library, which [1:40:14] was clause foray are. Now complete. At this point, I'm [1:40:23] going to go to our cfo to see if he [1:40:26] can give us a final number where we are in [1:40:27] the budget, so that all of my Council colleagues. Are [1:40:32] on the same page on the Budget numbers. Yes. So [1:40:37] our local change is a 9.88% change. The blended total [1:40:43] change is 5.93%. The total dollars per 100,000. And this [1:40:49] is including the estimated regional amount would be $43.60 per [1:40:54] 100,000. So for the average house of 600,000, it would [1:40:58] be $261.62. Thank you for that update. Are there any [1:41:05] other staff members who want to speak to any of [1:41:09] these items before we proceed. I'm seeing none. I know [1:41:15] that my colleagues are eager to share their statements on [1:41:18] the budget that will come very in the near future. [1:41:22] But we have to go through many more clauses before [1:41:24] we get to the point. I just wanted to clarify [1:41:26] that I know how eager my colleagues are. With this, [1:41:29] we will now move on to clause four, B. And [1:41:37] this is where councilor best declared a conflict, and you [1:41:40] can see him sliding way back over there. Clause four [1:41:44] B States that the 2024 operating budget for Seniors, program [1:41:49] salaries and benefits in the amount of $39,512 we receive [1:41:55] a review and any amendments made by Council. Are there [1:42:01] any motions to be considered in nation to this clause. [1:42:05] Seeing none. So I'm going to call the vote on [1:42:10] this. No, there's no vote. Yeah. We are going to [1:42:12] move on to clause five. Councilor Best is welcome to [1:42:15] slide right over. Clause Five States that if the actual [1:42:19] net taxable assessment growth is different than 2.29%, any increase [1:42:26] in the tax dollars generated from the town's portion of [1:42:29] assessment growth for 2024 Taxation be transferred to the Tax [1:42:34] Rate stabilization Reserve, or any. Decrease in tax dollars. Generated [1:42:40] from the town portion of Assessment Growth for 2024. Taxation [1:42:45] be funded from the Tax Rate stabilization reserve. And I'm [1:42:49] pretty sure. I have now read that. Are there any [1:42:53] motions to be considered in relation to this clause, which [1:42:57] is clause five? I'm seeing none. I will now move [1:42:59] on to clause six. Clause Six States that the nonunion [1:43:05] salary range adjustment for 2024 be approved at a rate [1:43:08] of 2.1%. Are there any motions to be considered in [1:43:12] relation to this clause? I'm seeing none. So I'm going [1:43:15] to move on to clause seven. Clause Seven States that [1:43:19] the 2025 2026 operating. Forecast for the town, including the [1:43:24] Library, with a combined net increase in the tax levy [1:43:28] of 27.1 million as outlined in appendix Five of this [1:43:32] Report or as potentially revised to be received. And on [1:43:37] this I do have an amendment to the clause, which [1:43:39] is a motion moved by Councillor challoner and seconded by [1:43:43] councilor Marshall. And I'm going to read that motion now. [1:43:48] That staff be directed to prepare a report for Council [1:43:50] that outlines alternatives for a multiyear financial strategy for the [1:43:55] town that can be used as a basis to guide [1:43:57] future budget processes. And that a Council workshop to discuss [1:44:01] the alternatives be held in advance of the presentation of [1:44:04] the report to Council and that the staff report be [1:44:07] presented to. Council for consideration no later than June 2024, [1:44:10] and finally, that an annual financial workshop occurred in June [1:44:15] or July to discuss pertinent financial information. As well as [1:44:20] facilitate pre budget discussions. I have read the motion. I [1:44:23] will go now to the mover of the motion. Councilor [1:44:26] Chaloner. Thanks, madam Chair. I think it's pretty straightforward. I [1:44:32] just want to thank the cfo, the cao, councilor Marshall [1:44:36] and councilor tesser dirkson for their leadership in this discussion. [1:44:40] Thank you, Councilor chandler, Secondary Councilor Marshall. I would agree. [1:44:43] It's pretty straightforward. Thank you, councilor Marshall, are there any [1:44:48] comments or questions on this motion. I'm seeing none. So [1:44:53] I'll call the vote. All those in favor. Motion Passes [1:44:56] unanimously. Are there any further motions to be considered in [1:45:01] relation to Clause Seven related to the 2025 2026 Operating [1:45:05] forecast. I'm seeing no other motions, so I'm going to [1:45:12] move on to Clause Eight, clause Eight States that the [1:45:17] transfers to and from reserves and reserve fronts within the [1:45:20] 2024 Budget, as outlined in appendix Six or as potentially [1:45:24] revised be received. Are there any motions to be considered [1:45:27] in relation to this clause. I see none moving on [1:45:30] to clause nine. Clause Nine States that the milton bia [1:45:35] budget in the gross amount of $487,675, resulting in a [1:45:42] net tax levy of 270,990. Dollars as outlined in appendix [1:45:50] Seven we received for review and any amendments made by [1:45:54] Council. Are there any motions to be considered in relation [1:45:57] to this clause. I am seeing none. Okay. So this [1:46:02] was clause nine. And at this point. I would like [1:46:07] to say that all motions are complete. And now we [1:46:10] will move to vote on the motions as revised. And [1:46:16] in advance of US calling the final vote on the [1:46:18] motions as amended. I will now ask the cfo for [1:46:25] an updated slide on where the numbers for the operating [1:46:28] and capital budget sit. And of course, pursuant to that [1:46:32] will be the opportunity for my colleagues to share their [1:46:35] comments and statements. Glenn. So coming up on the screen [1:46:40] now is a reflection of the figures that we verbally [1:46:43] spoke about just a few moments ago and we can [1:46:46] leave the slide up during the comments just so it's [1:46:48] an easier reference for Council. But as mentioned, it's a [1:46:52] 9.88% change at the local level and a 5.93% projected. [1:46:59] Impact at the total level with the other levels of [1:47:01] government as well, which translates to assessment or. 261 on [1:47:09] the average household. Thank you, Glenn. I am sure my [1:47:14] colleagues had a chance to look at the screen, all [1:47:16] the numbers up there in the graphic. And I will [1:47:19] now go to my colleagues to see if they have [1:47:22] any comments or statements. I have Mayor cranz to my [1:47:25] right, Mr. Mayor, you're absolutely right. The agenda that was [1:47:32] sent out with the recommendations. I don't see. And of [1:47:40] course I know it's changed tonight from 9.5 to 9.88, [1:47:46] and the rest that's in there. How will that be [1:47:49] incorporated. In the staff recommendation there. And those nine points [1:47:54] that you've been alluding to I know in the Executive [1:47:57] Summary, it covers it off, but I want to be [1:47:59] very clear. Because. It's bottom line that I'm concerned about. [1:48:05] And again, I think I've made it very clear to [1:48:07] anybody that wants to listen. But I was never in [1:48:10] support of 9.5 and certainly never in support now of [1:48:13] 9.88 or I'm going to round it off at 10%. [1:48:17] Going around at office. Because there are certain things in [1:48:22] those nine things that I support. But I don't support [1:48:26] 9.88. So I'm not suggesting breaking every one of the [1:48:30] mode again separately and deal with. But bottom line, I [1:48:33] don't support nine, eight, eight. As an example. We were [1:48:38] circulated and Glenn alludes to this earlier on this evening. [1:48:42] Some of the comments from individuals. And these aren't my [1:48:45] words. They're talking about tax increases as unacceptable. More than [1:48:51] once. An outrageous. I could probably add other. Actual as [1:48:58] to what we may be doing here tonight, but I'm [1:49:00] not going to do that. Again. As you know, madam [1:49:03] Chair, I signed off. Of the strong mayors issue, and [1:49:08] the clerk will get to that in just a few [1:49:10] moments on waiving some of the rights that I could [1:49:13] have had, but I did reserve the right to change [1:49:16] my mind at any time. And the clerk knows that [1:49:19] as well. But it's not my intention to do that. [1:49:22] I'm a firm believer in majority rules, and that the [1:49:25] majority of this Council wants to put it up 10%. [1:49:28] So be it. I won't be supporting that. But other [1:49:32] than that, I have no thoughts on it. I just [1:49:35] don't want to be part of. A spend thrift Council. [1:49:39] I'll make that very clear. Co. Is well aware of [1:49:42] that of my sentiment. And growing bureaucracy by leaps and [1:49:48] bounds. In this particular case, 22 additional new people on [1:49:52] top of what, 600, 700 people that's already here. I [1:49:56] was never part of that. Never wanted to be part [1:49:58] of it. Never will be part of growing government. So [1:50:02] other than that, I have no thoughts. So thank you. [1:50:05] Thank you, Mr. Merritt. Thank you for sharing your sentiments [1:50:08] with us. I have councilor Jazz next. Thank you, madam. [1:50:12] Chair. This might be unorthodox, but I put something together. [1:50:16] I think this is the right time to state it. [1:50:17] And the town of milton Worth. Growth unfolds a tale [1:50:20] of inflation its narrative holds infrastructures embrace services, dance yet. [1:50:26] The cost of progress, a circumstance. Inflation whispers through the [1:50:30] bustling streets a reality that municipal balance greets. Taxes rise [1:50:34] unnecessary tune to fortify foundation under the crescent Moon bridges [1:50:39] of progress, roads paved in dreams yet the fiscal river [1:50:42] turbulent. It seems to maintain the heartbeat of the town's [1:50:45] core taxes ascend a fiscal metaphor for. Schools that blumen [1:50:50] parts that thrive. Inflation's challenge. They must survive. Town's embrace [1:50:53] expanding sphere taxes climb a pathway clear and the Echo [1:50:57] of growth a fiscal verse in milton's heartbeat the people's [1:51:01] purse inflation's dance a complex song Taxes rise a town [1:51:06] grows strong. Thank you, councilor jazz. Before I call the [1:51:14] vote on the clauses, we just deliberated. I would wish [1:51:18] to look around again and see if any of my [1:51:21] colleagues have any comments or statements to add. Councilor kolki. [1:51:26] Thanks, madam Chair. I'll just keep it brief. I'm happy [1:51:28] of the investments that we're making here. And appreciate all [1:51:31] those that supported those three motions earlier as well. It's [1:51:34] an investment in road safety, it's an investment in traffic [1:51:37] staffing. It's an investment in fire services, amongst the other [1:51:41] items that are in the budget as it is, I'm [1:51:43] supportive of the budget and I look forward to again [1:51:45] in future budgets, just continuing to be the best advocate [1:51:48] I can be for the community and making investments that [1:51:50] we need. To get to where we need to be [1:51:52] by 2051 thank you. Thank you, councilor kalki. Certainly those [1:51:59] investments have been included in the budget. Mayor krantz. It's [1:52:05] on the overall budget. Madam Chair, I'm calling for a [1:52:08] recorded vote on that as well. Thank you. Clerk has [1:52:12] noted that thank You, Mr. Mayor. I'm seeing none of [1:52:16] my colleagues have any other comments or statements to add. [1:52:20] So a recorded vote has been called and I will [1:52:22] leave it to the clerk to deal with that. So [1:52:26] with respect to clauses one through nine, excluding item Four, [1:52:29] B. I see councilor Best has a comment to that. [1:52:33] I just wanted to make sure you've excluded my conflict. [1:52:36] Thank you. Yes. Thank you, counselor. Thanks for pointing that [1:52:40] out. So again, clauses one through nine, excluding four B [1:52:44] due to the conflict. I would ask all members who [1:52:48] are in favor of the motion to please stand. In [1:52:52] favor. I see councilor culky councilor best. Councilor Marshall [1:53:02] councilor Malbaf councilor tesser dirkson, councilor at Jazz councilor eli. [1:53:08] Thank you. You. Please be seated. Members opposed. Please stand. [1:53:12] Opposed. I'm seeing Mayor krantz and councilor Chalanor that motion [1:53:16] carries. Thank you, madam clerk. We will now call [1:53:26] the vote on clause B separately. Clause Four B separately. [1:53:38] It is moved by councilor malbon. Second, by councilor kalki [1:53:41] that the 2024 operating budget for Seniors, program salaries and [1:53:45] benefits, and the amount of $39,512 we received for review [1:53:49] and any amendments made by Council. All those in favor [1:53:55] of this motion. And that's carried. Thank you. We [1:54:05] have now finalized all nine clauses, including clause four, B. [1:54:09] We will move to clause ten. But the clause ten [1:54:14] will confirm that there are no further amendments for members [1:54:18] of Council. And I will read clause ten, and then [1:54:21] I will go to our cfo to add a little [1:54:23] bit of information to clause Ten for clarification because it [1:54:26] is a little bit confusing here. Boston that for the [1:54:33] purposes of the 2024 Budget, the 30 day period referred [1:54:36] to in subsection six of Ontario Regulation 530. 22 be [1:54:41] shortened such that it is considered expired at the time [1:54:45] of Council approval of this Resolution on December 4. 2023, [1:54:51] Glenn, can you please explain. Yes. So this is a [1:54:54] new resolution this year, specific for the new legislation. In [1:54:58] previous years, the last vote would have been a vote [1:55:00] to approve the entire budget, and the budget process would [1:55:03] have been complete this year. It was only to approve [1:55:06] amendments to the proposed budget. There's still the remaining legislative [1:55:10] timelines. So essentially, with approval of this CL. Clause. And [1:55:14] especially given that there's no further plans Council meetings between [1:55:18] now and when the time period would naturally expire. By [1:55:22] having this vote tonight, it allows us to confirm that [1:55:25] the period for amendments is finalized and proceed with the [1:55:27] remaining legislative steps, the next of which would be the [1:55:31] period the ten day period where the American make vetoes [1:55:34] Merric. Merrickrantz. Yeah, madam Chair, I've already confirmed with the [1:55:38] clerk that I'm signing off on this. And again, I [1:55:42] spoke to it earlier on democracy. Is alive and well [1:55:45] here this evening, even though I lost hope, my wishes. [1:55:49] But that's democracy. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Any [1:55:54] other further questions of clarification to the cfo on this [1:55:57] clause from anybody. I'm seeing none. So I'm going to [1:56:00] call the vote on this. All those in favor of [1:56:04] clause ten. And that is carried. With the approval of [1:56:09] this motion. I can announce that Council's period to amend [1:56:16] the proposed budget, as described in Ontario Regulation 530. 22 [1:56:22] is hereby concluded. And with that members of Council, we [1:56:25] were going to go on a brief recess and we [1:56:28] will reconvene shortly. Thank you. [1:58:45] I would like to request my members of Council colleagues [1:58:49] that we are back from the recess. We are back [1:58:55] from the recess and I have just received. The signed [1:59:01] declaration from the Mayor to shorten the time to veto [1:59:05] any motions such as the Timeline expires on December. Fourth [1:59:11] and at this time through the mayor's signing of the [1:59:15] declaration received by the Town clerk as part of Public [1:59:18] Record, the 2024 budget for the Town of milton is [1:59:22] hereby finalized. And with this, we'll move on to our [1:59:26] regular business items on the agenda. Before me, I have [1:59:31] staff reports. Urs 58, two, three. Ontario Regulation 28409. It [1:59:39] is moved by councilor Malbouls and seconded by councilor kalki [1:59:43] that the compliance report for the expenses excluded from the [1:59:47] 2024 budget outlined in Reports urs 57. Two, three be [1:59:52] approved as a requirement of Ontario Regulation 28409, passed under [1:59:56] the Municipal Act of 2000, and. One. Are there any [2:00:00] questions or comments to this motion? I'm seeing none. So [2:00:03] I'm going to call the vote, all those in favor. [2:00:06] And that passes. With that we move on to the [2:00:09] bylaw section. I have a motion moved by councilor Malbout. [2:00:14] Seconded, by councilor kulki that bylaw number nine, one, 2023, [2:00:18] be read, passed and numbered, and that the Mayor and [2:00:20] the Town clerk be authorized to sign the set bylaw [2:00:23] seal it with the seal of the Corporation, and that [2:00:25] they be engrossed by the bylaw book. Are there. Any [2:00:32] questions and comments from my colleagues on this and seeing [2:00:34] none, I'm going to call the vote. All those in [2:00:36] favor that passes. And with all business concluded for this [2:00:42] agenda, ladies and gentlemen, this meeting is now adjourned. Thank [2:00:48] you. Mr. Mayor has a comment. Just before you adjourn. [2:00:53] I just wanted to thank you, madam Chair, for doing [2:00:56] a nation job on the budget. It's not an easy [2:01:03] job. I know that you've been involved with staff on [2:01:07] getting this whipped into shape for some time. So I [2:01:10] just want to acknowledge that. And Glenn and all the [2:01:14] senior staff has taken a lead role on lotus. Hasn't [2:01:17] been easy and I know staff. I'm working on this [2:01:19] for many weeks and many months. With that, I take [2:01:24] the privilege, and this doesn't have to be an open [2:01:27] session. Of course. But one of your and my colleagues [2:01:31] is celebrating a very special. Day today. And I'm not [2:01:34] sure whether you're aware of or not, but I know [2:01:37] councilor ayjaz has become more mature today because today is [2:01:43] his birthday. Mayor. It's actually my birthday. Council calculate birthday, [2:01:48] not councilor Idaz's birthday. He matured a long time ago. [2:01:55] I still have some work to do. He then as [2:01:59] well become a little bit more mature. The information that [2:02:02] I got was councilor. Ijaz so. I just want to [2:02:07] congratulate councilor coke on becoming more mature as of today. [2:02:12] I think that refers to becoming a little older as [2:02:14] well. Councilor Healthy wanted to share a few sentiments. Absolutely. [2:02:20] Thank you very much for the birthday wish. Much appreciated. [2:02:24] And thank you for recognizing that I've matured. I appreciate [2:02:27] that. Mr. Mayor, I can confirm we can all use [2:02:30] a little bit of maturity here. Thank you. Thank you [2:02:33] so much, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for your comments and [2:02:36] highlighting our colleagues birthday. I have councilor Jazz now wishing [2:02:40] to speak, yeah, wishing to speak and wishing you happy [2:02:43] birthday? Had I known earlier, I would have wrote you [2:02:45] a poem. Thank you, Council Jazz. I would take this [2:02:50] moment to congratulate our staff, especially our senior staff, our [2:02:57] CEO, Andrew Sutila, for running a tight ship here. And [2:03:01] all of our senior management team, all of our commissioners, [2:03:04] all of your directors. You work so hard. And certainly [2:03:10] we see that we work with you. And we appreciate [2:03:13] you all so much and your teams who do all [2:03:15] of the Daily grind. So thank you for that. And [2:03:18] special thanks to cfo Glenn Cohen and his partner in [2:03:23] Crime, Jennifer, who honestly did a wonderful job. Preparing me [2:03:27] for tonight's meeting. And I appreciate the mayor's kind comments [2:03:30] of appreciation. Thank you so much all for attending tonight. [2:03:35] Those of you who are watching online. Thank you for [2:03:37] watching us. And being part of this meeting. With that, [2:03:43] I will now declare this meeting adjourned. Thank you.