1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:13:14,690 2 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:15,190 All right. 3 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:16,270 Good morning. 4 00:13:16,270 --> 00:13:18,410 I am sorry so much to keep you waiting. 5 00:13:18,410 --> 00:13:20,390 And hopefully you all won't be too warm today. 6 00:13:20,390 --> 00:13:23,560 They are doing everything they can about the air conditioners 7 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:24,650 and the power issues. 8 00:13:24,650 --> 00:13:26,780 So we apologize also for the dim lighting, 9 00:13:26,780 --> 00:13:30,980 but I've been made aware that everybody at home can see us. 10 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:33,520 So we're thankful, obviously, for those of you folks 11 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,070 that are here. 12 00:13:34,070 --> 00:13:36,940 But we're also thankful for our faithful attendees 13 00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:38,450 online that aren't able to be here, 14 00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:40,570 but that depend on the live stream 15 00:13:40,570 --> 00:13:41,930 to be able to get their information. 16 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:45,940 So in Santa Rosa County, we are very fortunate to start 17 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:48,020 every meeting with prayer. 18 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:49,280 And then we go to pledge. 19 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,070 And I'd like to ask pastor Owens, 20 00:13:52,070 --> 00:13:54,880 he's with the replicate church if he would lead us 21 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,100 in prayer because that would be far 22 00:13:57,100 --> 00:13:58,790 better than hearing one of us. 23 00:13:58,790 --> 00:14:01,570 And then afterwards, I'll ask Commissioner Wright 24 00:14:01,570 --> 00:14:03,500 if he'll lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. 25 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,080 So good morning, Pastor. 26 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,600 If y'all will just rise. 27 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,100 Good morning. 28 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:08,500 Thank you guys. 29 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,340 Heavenly Father, we come to you this morning, 30 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:13,890 Lord, and just acknowledging your sovereignty and your grace, 31 00:14:13,890 --> 00:14:16,190 Lord, that we're all breathing this morning 32 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:19,220 because you deemed us worthy to take breath today, Lord. 33 00:14:19,220 --> 00:14:21,390 And I just pray that you would be with us in this meeting, 34 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:23,300 Lord, that your Holy Spirit would just 35 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:25,580 guide the conversation, Lord, and just help us to have 36 00:14:25,580 --> 00:14:28,350 the best interest of Santa Rosa County in mind, Lord, 37 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:29,550 that you would guide these leaders, 38 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:31,860 you would guide those in public office, Lord, 39 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:34,410 and they would just make the best decisions possible. 40 00:14:34,410 --> 00:14:37,460 God you would just give them the wisdom and discernment to do so. 41 00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:38,770 And God, we just surrender this time to 42 00:14:38,770 --> 00:14:40,170 and we just pray these things in your son. 43 00:14:40,170 --> 00:14:40,980 Jesus's name. 44 00:14:40,980 --> 00:14:42,090 Amen Amen. 45 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:45,830 Amen please join me in the Pledge. 46 00:14:45,830 --> 00:14:50,600 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America 47 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,070 and to the Republic for which it stands. 48 00:14:53,070 --> 00:14:56,130 One nation under God, indivisible, 49 00:14:56,130 --> 00:14:59,100 with liberty and justice for all. 50 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:01,230 Thank you. 51 00:15:01,230 --> 00:15:04,220 I know Commissioner rights, right. 52 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:05,450 When commissioner rice. 53 00:15:05,450 --> 00:15:07,870 When he says that it's definitely 54 00:15:07,870 --> 00:15:11,240 better when we have more folks here to join us in the Pledge. 55 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,020 So again, appreciate y'all being here. 56 00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:16,970 As we move down for agenda approval, 57 00:15:16,970 --> 00:15:18,530 I'm going to ask my fellow commissioners, 58 00:15:18,530 --> 00:15:20,410 I'll start to my right with Commissioner Smith. 59 00:15:20,410 --> 00:15:23,410 Is there any modifications to today's 60 00:15:23,410 --> 00:15:26,410 agenda that need to be made. 61 00:15:26,410 --> 00:15:27,160 No, sir. 62 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Commissioner eddington? 63 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,000 No, sir. 64 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,500 Commissioner Calkins. 65 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,750 No Mr. chair and Commissioner. 66 00:15:32,750 --> 00:15:33,710 No changes. 67 00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:34,660 All right. 68 00:15:34,660 --> 00:15:36,500 Brad or Tom, are you all good. 69 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,850 Any add-ons or changes. 70 00:15:37,850 --> 00:15:38,450 Seeing none. 71 00:15:38,450 --> 00:15:38,950 All right. 72 00:15:38,950 --> 00:15:40,910 We'll move forward as presented. 73 00:15:40,910 --> 00:15:42,800 There's no minutes for approval. 74 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,140 And first we've got up here the public hearing 75 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:51,100 for establishment of the MSRB for street lighting services. 76 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:54,820 This is a request from Bay Ridge Park first edition 77 00:15:54,820 --> 00:15:58,390 and Emmeline gardens subdivisions. 78 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:00,800 Do we have any representatives from those 79 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,500 that are here today that maybe to speak for the group. 80 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:04,000 All right. 81 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,740 Do we have anyone in opposition to those street lighting. 82 00:16:09,740 --> 00:16:10,500 All right. 83 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:15,170 And the District Commissioner on this would be it's mine 84 00:16:15,170 --> 00:16:16,380 and I have no concerns. 85 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:19,880 OK So then we will. 86 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,890 You want to make a motion to approve. 87 00:16:21,890 --> 00:16:25,670 Yeah, I'd move to approve the establishment of MSRB 88 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:27,570 for street lighting services for Bay Ridge Park. 89 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:31,900 First edition, Emily gardens, subdivisions with no objection. 90 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:32,400 All right. 91 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Hearing no objection, those are approved. 92 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,410 And next is approval of Amendment 93 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:42,860 to ordinance 20 2013, which establishes nature 94 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:45,350 Cove street lighting msvu. 95 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:48,240 And it's got a corrected boundary map of the subdivision, 96 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,800 including all parcels receiving direct benefit 97 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,400 from existing MSP. 98 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,860 Do we have anyone here to speak about that. 99 00:16:55,860 --> 00:16:59,360 MSRB for lighting at nature's Cove. 100 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:00,840 All right, hearing none. 101 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,360 District commissioner. 102 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,550 In that case, I'll make a motion to approve without objection. 103 00:17:07,550 --> 00:17:09,630 Hearing no objection, that item is approved. 104 00:17:09,630 --> 00:17:10,569 Thank you. 105 00:17:10,569 --> 00:17:11,069 All right. 106 00:17:11,069 --> 00:17:16,710 Next, we go to a public forum and again is just a couple 107 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:18,680 of housekeeping reminders. 108 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,790 It's always good for us to check as well. 109 00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:24,589 Just please make sure if you have a cell phone or any kind 110 00:17:24,589 --> 00:17:27,260 of electronic device, if you will, just please put that 111 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:29,930 on vibrate or silent just so that we 112 00:17:29,930 --> 00:17:32,750 don't accidentally disturb a speaker while they're up. 113 00:17:32,750 --> 00:17:37,010 And then if you have something in particular that's 114 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:39,300 on the agenda that you're here to speak about, 115 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:41,240 it may be a little more pertinent to wait 116 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,230 until that moment to speak on it, 117 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:46,340 but you're more than welcome to come up during the public forum 118 00:17:46,340 --> 00:17:47,810 section, if you will. 119 00:17:47,810 --> 00:17:51,660 All right, we're going to start here with the sign in list. 120 00:17:51,660 --> 00:17:53,143 We've got Pauline Grimes. 121 00:17:53,143 --> 00:18:05,250 122 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:05,860 I don't know. 123 00:18:05,860 --> 00:18:08,130 Where's the light. 124 00:18:08,130 --> 00:18:09,570 It's on. 125 00:18:09,570 --> 00:18:11,000 ? 126 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,030 it's on. 127 00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:13,390 It's on for you there. 128 00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:14,770 It's right below the screen. 129 00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:15,370 But it's on. 130 00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:18,910 131 00:18:18,910 --> 00:18:21,560 I'm here on behalf of the animals. 132 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,620 God made them to enjoy. 133 00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:26,660 And the view the builders investors are destroying that. 134 00:18:26,660 --> 00:18:30,910 Whoever come up with the law to build the houses up. 135 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,360 I beg you to stop. 136 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:36,440 I'm down there in Avalon beach, 5387 Santa Cruz Boulevard. 137 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,380 My neighbor's building a shed. 138 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:40,100 He had to bring in dirt. 139 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:42,230 The rain we had a few weeks ago. 140 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:43,390 It flooded. 141 00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:44,240 And guess what. 142 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,340 It flooded the other day. 143 00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:47,900 We had that 30 minute, he said. 144 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:49,850 They got to stop building the houses up. 145 00:18:49,850 --> 00:18:52,660 They put the two on Glade and it never 146 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:55,960 flooded back there until they built those houses up. 147 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,100 I met someone from South Florida, 148 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:00,920 moved here because of the building nightmare down there. 149 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,540 I said, well, welcome to the club, 150 00:19:02,540 --> 00:19:04,190 he said, they cram it down our throats. 151 00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:07,430 And we can't say a word I read in the daily bread. 152 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:08,540 Centuries ago. 153 00:19:08,540 --> 00:19:11,200 Church leaders in Ethiopia insist 154 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,800 that watching over the trees is part of the obedience to God 155 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,520 as stewards of his creation. 156 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,450 It was 40% Now it's 4% Clearing the land. 157 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:23,840 A man on the news saying one day there will 158 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,470 be no land for the animals. 159 00:19:25,470 --> 00:19:28,830 Once the wildlife is gone, it's not coming back. 160 00:19:28,830 --> 00:19:31,490 They are going to deeper in the woods. 161 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:33,060 But that's why. 162 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:37,220 Because they keep driving them out like the Sharks 163 00:19:37,220 --> 00:19:39,090 attack this their habitat. 164 00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:41,550 And we need to be careful when we go into the water, 165 00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:44,550 like the woods, the deer, the Bears, that's their habitat. 166 00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:47,100 We are destroying that, my neighbor said. 167 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,600 I hope they don't clear Furlong. 168 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,560 That's next to me. 169 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,920 There's a stream that runs there and the animals love it. 170 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,950 I talked to a surveyor. 171 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:57,150 They said four houses to an acre. 172 00:19:57,150 --> 00:19:59,810 I called the Health department and they 173 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:05,240 need to put the septic up because of the tanks and the. 174 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,490 And he said, I don't understand why they're 175 00:20:07,490 --> 00:20:09,260 building the houses up, though. 176 00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:11,900 I got a call from Santa Rosa and we had all that rain. 177 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:13,920 Few weeks I was in a flood zone. 178 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,330 Never had that. 179 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:19,120 If they build all the houses on Furlong. 180 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,210 Four to an acre. 181 00:20:20,210 --> 00:20:22,250 That's 3 and 1/2 acres. 182 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:23,540 Guess where I'm going to be. 183 00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:24,380 Down here. 184 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:25,700 And I will flood. 185 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:29,440 I never got that call because of all the houses built. 186 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 I beg, please build a house. 187 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:35,270 Leave some land for the animals, please. 188 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:37,700 If not, you're saying you don't care. 189 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:38,870 Action! speak. 190 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:40,430 The trees help the wind. 191 00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:43,090 They soak up the water. 192 00:20:43,090 --> 00:20:46,520 They are putting a light at Del Monte and Avalon. 193 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,460 When the lady called, she said, Thank 194 00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:50,450 you for being very concerned. 195 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:53,980 It will be a while, but we will put a light 196 00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:55,910 at Avalon and Del Monte. 197 00:20:55,910 --> 00:20:59,420 My husband said one day back in the 60s. 198 00:20:59,420 --> 00:21:02,410 Now mankind is going to destroy himself 199 00:21:02,410 --> 00:21:04,610 and money will rule their lives. 200 00:21:04,610 --> 00:21:06,340 And I would not be in their shoes 201 00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:08,415 for all the money in the world. 202 00:21:08,415 --> 00:21:11,870 203 00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:13,870 Thank you, Ms Grimes. 204 00:21:13,870 --> 00:21:14,370 All right. 205 00:21:14,370 --> 00:21:15,850 Next, we've got Cynthia Smith. 206 00:21:15,850 --> 00:21:20,040 207 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,350 Cynthia Smith pace. 208 00:21:22,350 --> 00:21:24,820 I just want to praise the art department. 209 00:21:24,820 --> 00:21:26,280 Jared Lowe. 210 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,730 I give you credit. 211 00:21:27,730 --> 00:21:30,490 I'm now into the system and it's a blessing. 212 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:31,736 Thank you all for everything. 213 00:21:31,736 --> 00:21:34,320 214 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,270 Woo hoo. 215 00:21:36,270 --> 00:21:37,920 Thank you, Ms Smith. 216 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Shari Chapman. 217 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:50,130 218 00:21:50,130 --> 00:21:52,020 Sherri Chapman peerage. 219 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:54,130 There's two things that I'd like to speak on. 220 00:21:54,130 --> 00:21:57,820 First of all is on the connector road. 221 00:21:57,820 --> 00:22:00,670 The speed limit is 35 miles an hour. 222 00:22:00,670 --> 00:22:03,150 No one goes 35. 223 00:22:03,150 --> 00:22:08,580 And why with one subdivision, do we have a cut through road 224 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:12,560 to slow traffic down. 225 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,590 I'd like to recommend that it be put up to 45 226 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:17,730 until there's a problem. 227 00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:20,400 I know you can't go over 45 because are sidewalks, 228 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 but there's no reason for that to maintain. 229 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:29,630 And who maintains the grass and cutting and all 230 00:22:29,630 --> 00:22:31,650 that on the connector road. 231 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:35,780 Because that connector road gets done twice before anything else 232 00:22:35,780 --> 00:22:38,180 gets done around the County. 233 00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:42,050 So the favoritism, I'm not sure exactly why 234 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:45,620 that's the most favorite road. 235 00:22:45,620 --> 00:22:50,330 Mr Parker, I wanted to bring something up at the last meeting 236 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:51,820 down in Navarre. 237 00:22:51,820 --> 00:22:55,800 I had said something about you trying to help Mr. Griswold out, 238 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,370 who was a person that was giving you. 239 00:22:58,370 --> 00:23:00,440 I called it a fund. 240 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,930 You called it an event. 241 00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:06,180 I think it was splitting hairs either way, 242 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:10,550 because it did in some way politically benefit you 243 00:23:10,550 --> 00:23:15,110 to have a community fish fry. 244 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:18,110 There was no remark on there saying 245 00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:23,780 no funding or no donations will be allowed or taken 246 00:23:23,780 --> 00:23:25,620 or anything to that sort. 247 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:30,920 So the public that I asked out of 40 people, everybody 248 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,760 confirmed that it was. 249 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,760 In some way a political benefit, and they would consider 250 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,970 it a political fish fry. 251 00:23:39,970 --> 00:23:42,610 And the thing that the reason that I brought that up 252 00:23:42,610 --> 00:23:46,150 is because this gentleman came before the board 253 00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:51,170 wanting to make a smaller hole by digging out dirt. 254 00:23:51,170 --> 00:23:54,200 This was back out in out in tamaqua. 255 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,000 Well, I don't know who came up with that. 256 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,490 Every time I dig a hole, it makes a hole bigger 257 00:24:00,490 --> 00:24:02,180 when I take more dirt out. 258 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:05,260 These people need to get their land fixed 259 00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:07,390 or they want to get it fixed now that they've 260 00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:09,000 made money off of it. 261 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,820 So is what we need to do is stay out of their private business 262 00:24:12,820 --> 00:24:17,530 and stop trying to fix their past mistakes to take more 263 00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:24,810 dirt out as the residents around it said in their piece of life. 264 00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:27,920 So we need to tell them this is a problem. 265 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,020 Your family created. 266 00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:31,100 This is a family. 267 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:32,510 You've got to this is a problem. 268 00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:33,540 You've got to fix. 269 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:35,480 It's not up to the County to make 270 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,560 special regulations to fix because we might 271 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,760 need red dirt to build homes. 272 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,930 Now, let's face it, that's what a lot of it's about. 273 00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:50,000 These people that live around there first before they 274 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,670 wanted to start making this big pit. 275 00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:57,830 So we need to just absolutely step away from that. 276 00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:59,990 Thank you, Ms Chapman. 277 00:24:59,990 --> 00:25:01,580 And Thank you to the hundreds of people 278 00:25:01,580 --> 00:25:04,310 that have helped me on my re-election campaign so far. 279 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:07,430 You all can remember that this is an important primary election 280 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:09,260 coming up on August. 281 00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:10,195 Jennie Weber. 282 00:25:10,195 --> 00:25:18,070 283 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:18,800 Good morning. 284 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,510 Jennie Weber, environmental advocate 285 00:25:22,510 --> 00:25:24,510 and Santa Rosa County voter. 286 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:26,770 I understand what I'm about to say 287 00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:31,070 is more of a staff level issue and I'll be glad to fix that up. 288 00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:34,210 But I wanted to just put my just put 289 00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:37,000 my concerns on public record. 290 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,050 The County issued a co a certificate of occupancy 291 00:25:41,050 --> 00:25:44,800 to keep Santa Rosa beautiful, and that 292 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,210 was done without any stormwater protection plan. 293 00:25:49,210 --> 00:25:53,350 Not even one engineered, not one submitted, and certainly not 294 00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:55,690 anything that was implemented. 295 00:25:55,690 --> 00:25:59,530 So I'd like to know how and why that co was issued 296 00:25:59,530 --> 00:26:01,280 prior to that being done. 297 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,360 That's according to our code. 298 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,690 Also, it was waved in front of the city council 299 00:26:07,690 --> 00:26:11,560 because the code was issued, you probably seen it in the news 300 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,620 that they were given an extension, 65 301 00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:16,770 day extension for that program. 302 00:26:16,770 --> 00:26:21,530 And that co was issued the day before the council 303 00:26:21,530 --> 00:26:24,210 even voted on this issue. 304 00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:28,550 So it kind of looked like an endorsement from the County 305 00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:31,250 that, hey, they already have this co 306 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,680 so if the County doesn't care, why should you 307 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,030 and that vote was only four to 3. 308 00:26:36,030 --> 00:26:38,450 So I wonder if one or two of those votes 309 00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:43,130 might have been swayed by having that co in front of their face. 310 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:46,100 Obviously, I think that you should revoke the co 311 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,910 at this time until the stormwater protection 312 00:26:49,910 --> 00:26:52,790 plan is fully implemented and that they 313 00:26:52,790 --> 00:26:55,490 comply with the whole code. 314 00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:57,660 But I'd like to follow up with staff. 315 00:26:57,660 --> 00:27:01,340 And I just don't know who that would be so I can get some more 316 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:06,320 information on the how and the why and how they 317 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,890 were able to circumvent this. 318 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:11,390 So I did put in a public records request 319 00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:16,560 to see how the conversation went and who was involved. 320 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,080 So if someone would please contact me. 321 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,690 Mr Baker Thank you. 322 00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:23,520 Thank you, Ms Weber. 323 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,350 And if you will, just for double assurance after you 324 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:29,900 exit the boardroom today, if you'll go to our office 325 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,840 and give grab either Ashley or Tom and make sure 326 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,680 they have your contact information. 327 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,400 And that way we can have a second check to make sure 328 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,740 they're able to get with you. 329 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:39,240 Yes, sir. 330 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,750 I'm on speed dial. 331 00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:46,120 OK, we have Jasmine Johnson. 332 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:55,580 333 00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:56,810 Good morning. 334 00:27:56,810 --> 00:27:58,880 My name is Jasmine Johnson. 335 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,050 Navarre, Florida. 336 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:01,860 Commissioner Eddington's district. 337 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:04,260 Here to talk about Avenue today. 338 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:06,920 So first, I want to say Thank you 339 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,950 to staff the board for the time last week discussing the issue. 340 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:18,380 The reason I am here today is to ask if the board will direct 341 00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:22,400 staff to come up with a permanent resolution for avenida 342 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,445 de sole outside of FEMA funding. 343 00:28:24,445 --> 00:28:27,800 344 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,490 That's why I'm here. 345 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:35,120 OK you're done for the second. 346 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,650 OK all right. 347 00:28:37,650 --> 00:28:39,270 Let me finish through public forum 348 00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:40,830 and then we'll address that. 349 00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:43,360 OK Chris curb. 350 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:53,410 351 00:28:53,410 --> 00:28:53,910 Come on. 352 00:28:53,910 --> 00:28:54,580 Good morning, Chris. 353 00:28:54,580 --> 00:29:01,460 Curb flood defenders panhandle last Friday. 354 00:29:01,460 --> 00:29:07,040 Went to the Northwest Florida Regional Resilience Seminar 355 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,000 and the keynote speaker was Wes Brooks, 356 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,275 the state resilience officer for the state of Florida. 357 00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:16,850 358 00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:21,170 Y'all had some few folks from Santa Rosa County staff that was 359 00:29:21,170 --> 00:29:26,630 there at the meeting and a lot of different speakers talking 360 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:28,020 about different funding. 361 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:32,960 And that came out through the Senate 362 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,140 Bill 1954, which was in 2021. 363 00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,550 I've spoken about that up here several times. 364 00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:41,300 Just a resiliency grant funding. 365 00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:44,180 I think Santa Rosa County has gotten some of that grant 366 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:49,040 funding on a few different projects, 367 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,150 like to encourage you all to pursue more of those FDEP 368 00:29:53,150 --> 00:29:55,860 resilient grants funding. 369 00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:59,450 I know you think you're working on a vulnerability assessment 370 00:29:59,450 --> 00:30:02,210 right now under that grant program. 371 00:30:02,210 --> 00:30:05,750 Escambia County is too. 372 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:09,410 You might be able to do some of these projects 373 00:30:09,410 --> 00:30:15,630 like Williams Creek basin study or Navarre second edition, 374 00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:19,790 where the Johnsons live at, and maybe restore some 375 00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:21,420 of the drainage in that area. 376 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:23,450 So they won't they don't have as much 377 00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:27,890 flooding in that neighborhood. 378 00:30:27,890 --> 00:30:30,160 It's a good funding source. 379 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,660 Of course. 380 00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:35,810 It requires 50% match funding, and most of your grants 381 00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:42,380 have match funding and which comes up to your budget today. 382 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:44,070 I think you all have that at 1:00. 383 00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:48,950 I hope you all put enough money aside for these projects 384 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:49,847 for grant funding. 385 00:30:49,847 --> 00:31:00,090 386 00:31:00,090 --> 00:31:01,360 You got Matt Posner. 387 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,660 He spoke at the Northwest Florida Regional 388 00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:09,570 Resilience Seminar, too, with the perdido Bay estuary program. 389 00:31:09,570 --> 00:31:11,860 And you've been doing working on that for six years. 390 00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:19,230 There's a $50 million grant from NOAA that is in the works. 391 00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:22,320 I think it's going to provide some drainage projects 392 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,500 and study for pine Creek in Santa Rosa County. 393 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,630 That's good. 394 00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:31,560 Something I always hear when we're talking about these grants 395 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,620 is you've got to have skin in the game. 396 00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:40,690 I believe that you have to get started somewhere. 397 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:44,640 And doing drainage projects, drainage studies, 398 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,390 that's how you start doing it. 399 00:31:46,390 --> 00:31:49,950 And you get your list together, your plan together, 400 00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:52,500 all your project needs. 401 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:56,320 Williams Creek should be on your budget, I think, in my opinion. 402 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,420 But just one last note. 403 00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:03,900 I asked Escambia County a few weeks 404 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:07,270 ago about how many projects, how much money they got in budget, 405 00:32:07,270 --> 00:32:09,600 and they got $106 million in grant 406 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,220 funding going on right now. 407 00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:15,150 So a lot of money that don't even include their restore. 408 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:16,620 Thank you, Mr Hur. 409 00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:19,620 18.5 million of it is buyouts. 410 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:20,290 Yes, sir. 411 00:32:20,290 --> 00:32:22,010 Thank you. 412 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:22,510 All right. 413 00:32:22,510 --> 00:32:24,060 I don't have anybody else who signed up 414 00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:27,010 on this general public forum section. 415 00:32:27,010 --> 00:32:29,970 Is there anybody else that was here to speak on a non agenda 416 00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:32,130 item before we move forward. 417 00:32:32,130 --> 00:32:34,200 All right. 418 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,780 And let me ask real quick just for planning purposes, 419 00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:42,920 is Commissioner Eddington, is Mr Calvin Sullivan, is he here. 420 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,420 No, sir. 421 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:44,010 He just. 422 00:32:44,010 --> 00:32:44,950 OK no, sir. 423 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:45,790 He's at work. 424 00:32:45,790 --> 00:32:48,670 I was going to bump it above number two if he was here. 425 00:32:48,670 --> 00:32:50,200 But either way, we'll be fine. 426 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,240 Thank you. 427 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,790 All right. 428 00:32:51,790 --> 00:32:54,450 That takes us to Commissioner item number one. 429 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:56,170 I'm going to turn it over to Commissioner Smith. 430 00:32:56,170 --> 00:32:58,610 And Thank you for the pictures in the backup. 431 00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:01,200 It's always great to be able to see the amazing stuff they're 432 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,700 doing. 433 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:03,070 So take it away. 434 00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:07,990 Well, no Thanks to me, that was our wonderful PIO, 435 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:09,170 Sarah Whitfield. 436 00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:09,920 She did that. 437 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,200 And I appreciate the job she did on this. 438 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,870 But Yes, a lot of you guys know how much 439 00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:22,630 and how excited trash pickup makes me. 440 00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:24,860 It just warms my heart. 441 00:33:24,860 --> 00:33:27,700 And we have a church in East Middleton 442 00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:32,920 that I'm proud to say is they're the greatest 443 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,850 example of the local church. 444 00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:37,820 And I don't want to go off on my local church tangent, 445 00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:45,280 but pastor Jared Owens of replicate church in East 446 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,920 Middleton he has done a great job as far 447 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:57,190 as rallying the people of his church to come together 448 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:58,900 to do good in the community. 449 00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:00,720 And one of the things that I want to highlight 450 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,990 is the trash pickup. 451 00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:07,000 And Yes, and you'll see by Sarah's display here, 452 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,170 this is a trash pickup. 453 00:34:08,170 --> 00:34:10,840 This is the second trash pickup they've done. 454 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,090 I participated in the first one. 455 00:34:13,090 --> 00:34:15,840 But a lot of times we like to do these trash 456 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,480 pickups before it gets too hot. 457 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,260 Now, it's blazing hot. 458 00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:22,830 I know it's going to be the hardest time of the year for us 459 00:34:22,830 --> 00:34:25,679 to try to get people to get out and do trash pickups unless 460 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,280 it's 4:00 in the morning. 461 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,600 But if you see the amount of outpouring and the work 462 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,460 that this church has done, and it's not only that, 463 00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:42,100 it's the community service they do as far as the food giveaways, 464 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:45,760 the just bringing the community together. 465 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,570 And I love East Milton and I know Pastor Jared. 466 00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:52,710 He loves East Milton and this is the kind of stuff 467 00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:55,120 that it just makes me proud. 468 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,740 One of the things I used to say when I'd get up to that podium 469 00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:03,130 and gripe at this board was Kerry Smith East Milton 470 00:35:03,130 --> 00:35:05,710 because there is such a pride in East Milton 471 00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:07,070 and what we do over there. 472 00:35:07,070 --> 00:35:13,030 And I just wanted to point out pastor Jared's his dedication 473 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:15,160 to the community, and his church's 474 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,720 dedication to this community. 475 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,460 And I love them dearly. 476 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:22,480 And pastor, if you and Mike would walk up 477 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,180 to give us a little bit of your time, 478 00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:27,800 I know you're a public speaker. 479 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,930 Maybe we can get Mike to say something, too. 480 00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:35,080 But just like to this was something that's 481 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,500 been on my heart for a while is OK, 482 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:41,110 you've got local government giving 483 00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:44,530 you some recognition, but. 484 00:35:44,530 --> 00:35:48,220 This is the stuff I would love to see 485 00:35:48,220 --> 00:35:51,050 other churches in the community Follow suit with you. 486 00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:54,100 And I just I just love the fact that you guys have stepped 487 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,440 up and done what you've done. 488 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,590 Thank you, Commissioner Smith. 489 00:35:57,590 --> 00:35:59,860 Well when we planted the church we 490 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:01,970 got the God's given two commands, 491 00:36:01,970 --> 00:36:03,410 love, God, love people. 492 00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:05,080 And we committed to being a church 493 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,980 that if we closed up our shop tomorrow, 494 00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:09,040 people would notice we wouldn't be the building where 495 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,090 people say a year from now. 496 00:36:11,090 --> 00:36:13,360 There used to be a church there because there's a for sale sign. 497 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,310 And so part of the way we've decided to love people 498 00:36:15,310 --> 00:36:16,280 is love our city. 499 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,350 We want to be rooted in East Milton. 500 00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:20,920 We've had opportunities to get buildings and other spaces 501 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,610 and I said, no, we want to be in East Milton, 502 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:25,690 we want to love East Milton and just fill that gap 503 00:36:25,690 --> 00:36:26,630 wherever there's a need. 504 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:30,070 So right now we're about to do a special needs 505 00:36:30,070 --> 00:36:32,660 karate camp for kids that don't normally get invited to stuff. 506 00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:35,020 And so we're looking to always fill those gaps. 507 00:36:35,020 --> 00:36:37,630 Kyle Holly has been a great asset to us 508 00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:40,490 and helping us fill in those gaps in the community out there. 509 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:42,890 And so we're just looking forward to more opportunities. 510 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:45,030 And Mike is our youth pastor. 511 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:46,680 His wife leads our kids ministry. 512 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,920 And so we're excited for anybody who wants to come check us out 513 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,090 in East Milton and the lovely pole barn at the agriplex 514 00:36:52,090 --> 00:36:52,590 out there. 515 00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:54,980 So love to see you guys out there, but Thank 516 00:36:54,980 --> 00:36:57,290 you, Commissioner Smith. 517 00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:58,820 Well, I want to point out didn't get 518 00:36:58,820 --> 00:37:01,970 to bring too much of your flock to this event 519 00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:03,660 because everybody's got a job. 520 00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:04,220 Yes, sir. 521 00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:08,460 Even one of the guys that Will Gordon Taylor is my neighbor. 522 00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:10,220 He lives across the canal from me 523 00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:12,320 and couldn't even get him to go because he 524 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,740 had too much going on. 525 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:14,930 Everybody has to work. 526 00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:16,070 Yes, sir. 527 00:37:16,070 --> 00:37:17,070 I appreciate it, Commissioner. 528 00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:17,430 Thank you. 529 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:17,930 Thank you. 530 00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:24,620 And Yeah, who's I mean, who's the gentleman 531 00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:26,460 Is this associate pastor here. 532 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:28,740 No, that's a youth leader. 533 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:29,880 All right, I got you. 534 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,420 What I wanted to do is though, is we want to do a presentation 535 00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:33,070 and get a picture. 536 00:37:33,070 --> 00:37:33,570 So don't go. 537 00:37:33,570 --> 00:37:34,920 Yeah, don't get too far. 538 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,390 Listen, there is no more noble cause than I hear telling 539 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:39,360 people about the gospel. 540 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:39,860 So we do. 541 00:37:39,860 --> 00:37:41,030 Amen Amen. 542 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:42,740 I'm glad he's got that because we were going to get 543 00:37:42,740 --> 00:37:43,940 y'all to come up here and we'll take 544 00:37:43,940 --> 00:37:45,780 a picture in front of the seal. 545 00:37:45,780 --> 00:37:46,280 All right. 546 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,300 If you would come on up. 547 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:48,650 We'll get these chairs out of the way. 548 00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:57,330 549 00:37:57,330 --> 00:38:06,780 He passed sweat money, a World War I war tax. 550 00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:50,880 551 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,470 I love highlighting the good things. 552 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:55,410 The good things. 553 00:38:55,410 --> 00:38:56,335 This is the good stuff. 554 00:38:56,335 --> 00:39:01,810 555 00:39:01,810 --> 00:39:03,970 Let's compliment and Commissioner 556 00:39:03,970 --> 00:39:05,130 Eddington on his tie. 557 00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:08,170 There I said it looked like Auburn colors. 558 00:39:08,170 --> 00:39:09,770 We almost had a fistfight up here. 559 00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:10,730 He reminded me. 560 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:15,340 I forgot this was a Tennessee Vols fella, but it looks great. 561 00:39:15,340 --> 00:39:17,990 I thought it was Florida chairman. 562 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:18,500 Go ahead. 563 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:19,000 If you'd like. 564 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,210 The Tennessee color. 565 00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:22,900 The lady right there in the orange. 566 00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:24,890 Yeah, the fourth row back. 567 00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:26,360 That's Tennessee orange. 568 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,860 All right. 569 00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:30,180 570 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:33,820 I think y'all are more famous now than anything for that new 571 00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:37,420 country song you got with the girl singing about her 572 00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:39,790 going to the Tennessee game. 573 00:39:39,790 --> 00:39:41,110 All right. 574 00:39:41,110 --> 00:39:43,730 That Thank you, Commissioner Smith, 575 00:39:43,730 --> 00:39:46,720 for making sure we were able to all learn about the good things 576 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:47,950 they're doing. 577 00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:50,570 Next, we're going to go to item number two. 578 00:39:50,570 --> 00:39:51,500 Commissioner Calkins. 579 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:52,510 I'll turn it over to you. 580 00:39:52,510 --> 00:39:54,760 And then we do. 581 00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,730 I'll let you go and then we'll call the agenda speakers up. 582 00:40:00,730 --> 00:40:02,220 OK Thank you, Mr Chair. 583 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:04,250 I'm sure most of you all had an opportunity 584 00:40:04,250 --> 00:40:06,120 to read the resolution. 585 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,450 I'd like to since we got some comments on this, 586 00:40:09,450 --> 00:40:12,890 I'd like to invite the speakers to start out 587 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:15,810 and then I can go about reading the resolution. 588 00:40:15,810 --> 00:40:17,690 And we'll. 589 00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:21,020 Yeah, you could call them and then we'll call them all up 590 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:24,590 and then I'll go into reading the resolution 591 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,350 and board discussion. 592 00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:30,900 Yeah, you all are welcome to come up and speak on this. 593 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,030 We'll read the resolution. 594 00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:35,530 I was going to wait until they finished. 595 00:40:35,530 --> 00:40:36,030 All right. 596 00:40:36,030 --> 00:40:37,520 I thought would be all right. 597 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,500 We'll per commissioner Calkins request. 598 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,650 We'll go ahead and I'll call the agenda speaker 599 00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:43,860 turn your mic off for me. 600 00:40:43,860 --> 00:40:45,090 We don't get an echo. 601 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:48,540 I'll call the agenda speakers, folks, that have signed up, 602 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:49,980 so I'll start in order. 603 00:40:49,980 --> 00:40:51,406 Ms grace McCaffrey. 604 00:40:51,406 --> 00:40:55,210 605 00:40:55,210 --> 00:40:56,270 Yeah, that's fine. 606 00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:57,520 Yeah, absolutely. 607 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,110 And the. 608 00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:03,160 609 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,920 Hey, and and I think I actually forgot earlier today 610 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,770 and I some of the people that came up. 611 00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:12,440 Sorry Can you give me just a moment, if you will, 612 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,640 and I apologize. 613 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,280 I had told Mr Johnson we would direct his issue, 614 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,710 if you'll give me just a second because I 615 00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:25,130 know that him and his family and fellow servicemen are here. 616 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:25,850 I apologize. 617 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:27,350 I'm glad I caught you, if you all will. 618 00:41:27,350 --> 00:41:31,030 Just because I think we might have lengthy discussion. 619 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:33,640 Mr Johnson, as you all I think every commissioner 620 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,910 had an opportunity to. 621 00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:36,340 To meet with him and his neighbors. 622 00:41:36,340 --> 00:41:37,070 Is that correct. 623 00:41:37,070 --> 00:41:38,390 Just by kind of a head nod. 624 00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:40,240 And I know this is in Commissioner 625 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,440 Eddington's district. 626 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,450 And so I will definitely ask you, 627 00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:51,310 but I will tell you that I fully support, if we could give staff 628 00:41:51,310 --> 00:41:55,820 direction to between now and the next set of meeting, 629 00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:56,720 allow staff. 630 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,100 I know there's some questions and information that we did not 631 00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:03,710 have when I met with them, but if we could allow staff to work 632 00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:07,040 towards as a resolution to this problem to try to help 633 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,160 these families out, I will I'll definitely 634 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,290 say it is some unique circumstances is why that. 635 00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:17,660 But that's where I'm at. 636 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,890 Commissioner Eddington, I know this is in your district, 637 00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:21,590 but I know they're here today asking us 638 00:42:21,590 --> 00:42:24,530 if we'll look at asking staff to move 639 00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:26,850 forward to working with them on some issue on this. 640 00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:32,630 And I just wanted to give them some. 641 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:33,320 Go ahead. 642 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,990 Yes, sir. 643 00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:37,080 I don't mind going with the staff looking at stuff, 644 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,050 but no, my feelings. 645 00:42:40,050 --> 00:42:43,010 I do feel sorry for the people. 646 00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:44,900 We need to look at something that we 647 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:46,940 can help drainage and stuff like that 648 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:49,640 for these people in the future. 649 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,770 But buying these houses out right now, 650 00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:54,220 I wouldn't go with that. 651 00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:56,990 652 00:42:56,990 --> 00:43:00,620 I think I should go back to the real estate people is they 653 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:02,510 should enclose all this, let these people 654 00:43:02,510 --> 00:43:04,260 know if it floods and stuff. 655 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:07,640 But I'm willing to work with the staff and let them look at it 656 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,250 and see what we can do to help these people. 657 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:13,100 And there were some creative ideas 658 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,090 that we were able to come up with when we met that I will 659 00:43:17,090 --> 00:43:18,980 absolutely share more with staff online 660 00:43:18,980 --> 00:43:20,670 and I hope that you all would too. 661 00:43:20,670 --> 00:43:23,990 And some of the things we looked at that could become much 662 00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:26,300 more economically feasible is if we're 663 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:29,600 able to work with those mortgage companies on maybe 664 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,200 a tremendous reduction. 665 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,030 Obviously, the values have been diminished. 666 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:36,440 And if we could work with that rather than say, the purchase 667 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,600 price that they had paid for it, there 668 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,550 might be some opportunities where we could help them 669 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:42,060 and it'd be a lot less pain point. 670 00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:45,800 But at the end of the day, I know both of these gentlemen 671 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,780 are looking at potentially they could 672 00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:51,390 be deployed at any moment with our Special Operations group. 673 00:43:51,390 --> 00:43:53,840 And quite frankly, I want to try to do 674 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,600 anything that would be prudent and responsible that we can. 675 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,770 So if the rest of the board is comfortable with that direction, 676 00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:03,870 that Commissioner Eddington and I think, 677 00:44:03,870 --> 00:44:07,550 have both voiced that we could allow staff to engage with them 678 00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:10,470 and work as expeditiously as possible. 679 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:12,660 And I know I can pledge with you, 680 00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:16,100 I'll make myself available to staff or to you on any questions 681 00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:19,770 and we will try to come up with something. 682 00:44:19,770 --> 00:44:22,760 And so I think it seems like the board's pretty 683 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,820 solid on that direction to staff and Brad Mr Chairman, 684 00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:27,660 we'll work on that. 685 00:44:27,660 --> 00:44:30,380 I would say let's just set that to bring something 686 00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:33,470 back to the board at the July 22 meeting that'll give us a little 687 00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:36,560 more time to pull all the data and compare it 688 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,570 to other counties, et cetera. 689 00:44:38,570 --> 00:44:41,520 And we'll make sure that at least once a week, 690 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,420 we're giving you an update. 691 00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:44,160 I mean, it is going to be a little complex, 692 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,420 but hopefully that'll at least give a little guidance there. 693 00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:50,520 And so we're trying to get to it. 694 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,100 And again, Thank you, gentlemen, for your service. 695 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,770 And the wives, I know they really 696 00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:56,690 have a harder job than you keeping the home front 697 00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:57,480 while you are gone. 698 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,420 So thank you, ladies, as well. 699 00:44:59,420 --> 00:45:03,350 OK miss McCaffrey, if you want to come forward 700 00:45:03,350 --> 00:45:07,290 and again, I apologize for that little pause there, 701 00:45:07,290 --> 00:45:08,930 but I wanted to make sure these gentlemen were 702 00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:11,150 able to in case they needed to get to work today 703 00:45:11,150 --> 00:45:13,490 would to do that if you. 704 00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:18,120 And just tell you, this is what I reminded of earlier to you. 705 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,810 Anybody that wants to speak today, just when you come up, 706 00:45:21,810 --> 00:45:22,710 try to remember. 707 00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:25,970 In case I forget to remind you, just give us your name 708 00:45:25,970 --> 00:45:27,860 at the beginning of when you're speaking 709 00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:29,320 and then what area you're from. 710 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,820 It's fine. 711 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:31,590 You don't have to give us an exact address. 712 00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:34,200 It could be Milton pavements or whatever. 713 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,810 And that way when they take minutes to record the meeting, 714 00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:37,530 we'll just have that. 715 00:45:37,530 --> 00:45:38,407 So good morning. 716 00:45:38,407 --> 00:45:39,240 Thank you for being here. 717 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,880 And if you'll just give us that. 718 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,970 Good morning. 719 00:45:41,970 --> 00:45:47,540 Absolutely may I quickly ask why we're going out of procedure 720 00:45:47,540 --> 00:45:51,200 for this, why you're wanting us to speak 721 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,790 before the it's resolution is that commissioners item. 722 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:58,280 OK So basically what I wanted to do 723 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,720 is did you all read the resolution online. 724 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:04,500 Yes and I. Assume most of the fellow board members 725 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:05,940 read the resolution online. 726 00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:09,030 I wanted to hear all y'all's opinion 727 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:11,640 and then so I can come back and address 728 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,000 any concerns that you have. 729 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,580 That's why I wanted to let you all speak first. 730 00:46:15,580 --> 00:46:18,760 And so if you read the resolution already, 731 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,910 there's no sense in reading it first 732 00:46:20,910 --> 00:46:22,600 and then coming back later. 733 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,830 I just I want to hear from you all first as long as you've read 734 00:46:25,830 --> 00:46:28,710 it and then I can read it, I want to make sure 735 00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:33,000 we're not getting set up for more political theater, sir. 736 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,070 My name is Grace Resendez McCaffrey. 737 00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:37,360 I've been publishing I'm sorry. 738 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,910 I'm from Escambia County. 739 00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:40,350 I live in Escambia County. 740 00:46:40,350 --> 00:46:43,620 I've been publishing local news in Spanish and English 741 00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:47,290 since 2005 and founded the Hispanic Resource Center, 742 00:46:47,290 --> 00:46:50,460 serving people from 21 Spanish speaking countries in Northwest 743 00:46:50,460 --> 00:46:53,250 Florida and South Alabama. 744 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:55,090 Though we're growing and thriving, 745 00:46:55,090 --> 00:46:57,060 progress takes a step backward when 746 00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,190 political stunts use immigration or rather 747 00:46:59,190 --> 00:47:01,830 immigrants as a platform. 748 00:47:01,830 --> 00:47:03,850 These measures affect everyone that 749 00:47:03,850 --> 00:47:06,950 benefit from industries such as hospitality, 750 00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:09,260 construction, agriculture. 751 00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:11,230 That's pretty much, everyone. 752 00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:14,590 I'm here today to ask you to stop the immigration resolution 753 00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:18,010 published by Mr corkins and to introduce 754 00:47:18,010 --> 00:47:23,620 some people that the proposed resolution affects most. 755 00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:26,980 Immigration is a complex system. 756 00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:28,970 Policies are constantly changing, 757 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:30,970 as are immigrant statuses. 758 00:47:30,970 --> 00:47:32,800 Even immigrants that enter the country 759 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,780 legally can lose their immigration status 760 00:47:34,780 --> 00:47:36,650 by simply missing an appointment, 761 00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:39,520 a requirement that is hindered by transportation 762 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,320 and financial issues. 763 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,250 We do not have immigration check in facilities in Northwest 764 00:47:45,250 --> 00:47:49,520 Florida as undocumented immigrant statuses change, 765 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,900 they become students. 766 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:54,430 Business owners, teachers, doctors, lawyers and even 767 00:47:54,430 --> 00:47:57,590 military serve in our military. 768 00:47:57,590 --> 00:48:00,040 There are such former undocumented immigrants 769 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,870 in this room with us today. 770 00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:07,720 Immigrants are also victimized by violence against Latinos 771 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:12,100 is not uncommon, especially when provoked by fear and hatred. 772 00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:16,990 I'm haunted by the 2019 mass shooting at a Walmart store 773 00:48:16,990 --> 00:48:19,150 in my neighborhood in Texas. 774 00:48:19,150 --> 00:48:22,810 One of my classmates wrote me this weekend. 775 00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:25,660 It's no secret that the monster that walked into Walmart 776 00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:30,230 that August morning had hatred towards Mexicans and immigrants, 777 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:34,275 fueled by rhetoric people he'd never met. 778 00:48:34,275 --> 00:48:38,170 779 00:48:38,170 --> 00:48:39,670 We might think that something like this 780 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:41,630 could never happen here, but it has. 781 00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:46,390 In 2019, Benny Danny Baker warned his Miramar Beach 782 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:49,240 neighbors to get immigrants out of their homes 783 00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:53,050 as he was about to begin the revolution, as he said. 784 00:48:53,050 --> 00:48:56,140 He then shot into a townhouse of 20 college students 785 00:48:56,140 --> 00:49:00,640 from Bolivia and Chile while celebrating their youth. 786 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,060 Four were injured. 787 00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:03,290 Two were killed. 788 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:06,020 Baker did not care what country they came from. 789 00:49:06,020 --> 00:49:08,360 He did not ask their immigration status. 790 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,750 He only knew that they spoke Spanish. 791 00:49:10,750 --> 00:49:15,430 Francisco cofré lost his girlfriend that day, 792 00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:21,010 an eye hearing in one ear and had a bullet lodged in his neck. 793 00:49:21,010 --> 00:49:24,490 I spent the following weeks assisting his father, 794 00:49:24,490 --> 00:49:28,260 apologizing that my community failed to take care of his son. 795 00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:31,280 796 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,130 If ever there were a true public safety concern related 797 00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:36,090 to the Hispanic and/or immigrant community, 798 00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:39,440 I trust that Sheriff Johnson would reach out to us so that we 799 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,900 can work on things together, just as we do with emergency 800 00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:44,840 management because that's what effective community 801 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,780 leaders do failures in immigration reform 802 00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:49,610 are frustrating. 803 00:49:49,610 --> 00:49:54,270 This is a global issue affecting borders around the world. 804 00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:56,510 And I plead you to not complicate 805 00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:58,710 an already difficult situation. 806 00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:59,380 Thank you. 807 00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:02,210 Thank you, Ms McCaffrey. 808 00:50:02,210 --> 00:50:07,850 All right, Esmeralda, I'm going to let you tell 809 00:50:07,850 --> 00:50:09,140 me how you pronounce your last name 810 00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:10,440 just so I don't get it wrong. 811 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,140 Good morning. 812 00:50:11,140 --> 00:50:12,200 Good morning. 813 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,660 Esmeralda Aguilar Quiroz. 814 00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:17,480 OK Thank you. 815 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,730 I am a resident of the Santa Rosa County 816 00:50:19,730 --> 00:50:22,280 and homeowners in the Santa Rosa area. 817 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,460 I am originally from Houston, Texas. 818 00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:28,890 I graduated high school in San Antonio, Texas. 819 00:50:28,890 --> 00:50:31,380 Family of five beautiful children and married 820 00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:33,300 to an amazing, hardworking husband 821 00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:37,020 named Juan Ramon Quiroz Ramirez. 822 00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:41,220 That is originally from arandas, Jalisco, Mexico. 823 00:50:41,220 --> 00:50:42,730 I came here today. 824 00:50:42,730 --> 00:50:44,730 I asked to please not pass a resolution 825 00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:48,720 that make immigrants unwelcome to the Santa Rosa County. 826 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,720 I came here not to fight, but for peace. 827 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,540 Once I heard Santa Rosa, Commissioner James Calkins said 828 00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:56,940 that alleles are not welcomed is not only 829 00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:59,640 going to make undocumented people unwelcome, 830 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,190 it made me unwelcomed. 831 00:51:02,190 --> 00:51:04,900 I am a proud United States citizen, 832 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:07,380 but I don't forget where my roots come from. 833 00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:09,970 My mother is originally from Houston, Texas, 834 00:51:09,970 --> 00:51:13,170 and my father is from San Luis Potosi, Mexico. 835 00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:14,830 It makes me so unwelcomed. 836 00:51:14,830 --> 00:51:17,490 And not only that, my children. 837 00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:19,750 What would I do if the resolution passes. 838 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:23,220 Would they see us differently or would they treat us differently. 839 00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:25,390 Would they treat my kids differently at school. 840 00:51:25,390 --> 00:51:27,540 Because how we look. 841 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:30,180 Will we be able to speak Spanish without somebody 842 00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:31,780 saying, get out of our country. 843 00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:33,810 You are not welcomed. 844 00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:36,150 My husband, Ramon, is undocumented. 845 00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:38,440 He was brought as a child by his parents. 846 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040 Now as an adult and father, he continues to try 847 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,650 to fix his immigration status. 848 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:46,050 In this process, we became victims of someone 849 00:51:46,050 --> 00:51:48,330 who took advantage of our desire to get my husband's 850 00:51:48,330 --> 00:51:49,980 documents in order. 851 00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:53,760 We were scammed out of more than $25,000. 852 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,010 The process has been difficult, but 853 00:51:56,010 --> 00:51:58,620 learning that my husband got approved for his I-130 854 00:51:58,620 --> 00:52:00,300 gave us hope. 855 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:03,450 Thanks to the newspaper and the community where Ms grace does 856 00:52:03,450 --> 00:52:06,990 to bring us together, I learned of the Ramirez Raza Law Group 857 00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:08,970 and ended up getting an appointment three years ago 858 00:52:08,970 --> 00:52:11,290 with Aida Ramirez and my husband, 859 00:52:11,290 --> 00:52:14,370 Ramon could finally do his legal process through Aida. 860 00:52:14,370 --> 00:52:17,220 We are hopeful that the most recent immigration law passed 861 00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:20,190 last week will finally end our journey 862 00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:23,560 and allow our family to share the same nationality. 863 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,920 My family and I ask for patience and appreciate respect 864 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,630 for all of us that we can live in peace 865 00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:32,520 in the Santa Rosa County. 866 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,820 Thank you for your time. 867 00:52:33,820 --> 00:52:34,420 Yes, ma'am. 868 00:52:34,420 --> 00:52:37,500 Thank you for your comments. 869 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,390 Is there anybody else. 870 00:52:39,390 --> 00:52:41,927 And I'm asking because I've got a couple of other names, 871 00:52:41,927 --> 00:52:43,260 but is there anybody else that's already 872 00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:46,070 standing here that was wanting to speak that had signed up. 873 00:52:46,070 --> 00:52:47,400 OK go ahead and just give me your name 874 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,750 and I'll check you off. 875 00:52:48,750 --> 00:52:49,950 Did you sign up. 876 00:52:49,950 --> 00:52:50,470 I did. 877 00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:56,040 OK my name is Lucia Trejo and I live in Escambia County. 878 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,100 I was invited by Grace. 879 00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:04,950 I want to let you guys know a little bit about me. 880 00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:07,080 I am a recipient of DACA. 881 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,820 I came here in 1999. 882 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:12,060 I graduated in North Carolina. 883 00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:16,240 After I graduated, I got my legal status, 884 00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,610 but not because I was legal. 885 00:53:18,610 --> 00:53:23,490 I was still targeted because of my color of my skin. 886 00:53:23,490 --> 00:53:29,670 I was not welcomed to a lot of places because I spoke Spanish. 887 00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:32,760 It was very hard for me to learn English. 888 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:39,230 And I hope one day we can all stand up there and take 889 00:53:39,230 --> 00:53:42,140 a picture like day celebrating or work 890 00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:44,630 or hard work of my community. 891 00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:47,730 That is, I've never seen that recognized. 892 00:53:47,730 --> 00:53:52,470 And I've seen a lot of my people fainting, 893 00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:53,820 getting heat, strokes and everything. 894 00:53:53,820 --> 00:54:04,230 And nobody recognizes that and sorry, I get very emotional. 895 00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:10,010 When my mother died, I wasn't able to go back home and give 896 00:54:10,010 --> 00:54:13,730 her a burial because of my legal status 897 00:54:13,730 --> 00:54:16,100 when I got my legal status. 898 00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:21,800 Honestly, it was very sad for me because it came too late. 899 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,690 So the laws change every day and a lot of people 900 00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:30,470 come over here to give a better life back. 901 00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:31,920 Their home countries. 902 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,300 Most of them don't make it up here, 903 00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:42,440 and I feel that a lot of people live here and with this law, 904 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,020 they have nowhere to go or they don't 905 00:54:45,020 --> 00:54:47,250 have the funds to move out. 906 00:54:47,250 --> 00:54:50,330 A lot of people have buy their houses here 907 00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:53,240 and everything and they everything is here. 908 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,820 So he forces them to leave. 909 00:54:55,820 --> 00:55:01,550 And I really hope Mr Hawking's to rethink 910 00:55:01,550 --> 00:55:03,800 what you've presented. 911 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,110 Thank you. 912 00:55:06,110 --> 00:55:09,420 Thank you for your comments. 913 00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:12,480 Anybody else wanted to speak. 914 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,810 And just so I can check off. 915 00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:14,980 Did you sign the sheet. 916 00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:15,740 Yes, I did. 917 00:55:15,740 --> 00:55:16,610 Good morning. 918 00:55:16,610 --> 00:55:17,780 Good morning, staff. 919 00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:20,200 My name is Caridad Galvan Jones. 920 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,340 I'm a resident of Santa Rosa County since 2009. 921 00:55:24,340 --> 00:55:28,620 I'm a business owner, but I'm also a court interpreter 922 00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:34,890 for the First Circuit, where I extend the assistance 923 00:55:34,890 --> 00:55:39,690 of language for people like my parents 924 00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:41,610 that did not know the language when 925 00:55:41,610 --> 00:55:48,360 they were in front of anyone, a judge or a doctor or anyone. 926 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,500 I'm here today to ask the panel, as well as Mr Calkins, 927 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:57,600 to reconsider this proposal. 928 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:04,830 Not everyone that looks like me should be dressed in orange 929 00:56:04,830 --> 00:56:08,560 or be booked in the Santa Rosa County Jail. 930 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,230 Not anyone that looks like me should be a target 931 00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:17,110 for young people to say. 932 00:56:17,110 --> 00:56:22,170 As I was said at one time, go back home while I'm picking 933 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:24,900 up my mail at the mailbox. 934 00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:26,580 That's not fair. 935 00:56:26,580 --> 00:56:27,880 I was born here. 936 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,510 I was fortunate enough to be born here in the United 937 00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:32,900 States, the land of the free. 938 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:36,360 Remember where we have constitutional rights. 939 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,960 Well, I asked Mr Culkin, I direct myself to you 940 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,550 because you are the person that brought up this agenda 941 00:56:44,550 --> 00:56:52,020 to reconsider these stories and to reconsider where we are from 942 00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:56,910 and what is the true calling of our agenda here. 943 00:56:56,910 --> 00:57:02,010 I've had young people come up to me on a street light 944 00:57:02,010 --> 00:57:08,920 with a certain flag that we all in a rusty old red truck 945 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,790 telling me to go back home. 946 00:57:12,790 --> 00:57:13,990 It's not fair. 947 00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:15,950 It's not fair to none of us. 948 00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:17,320 Where is home. 949 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,710 Where are all from. 950 00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:20,040 A different place. 951 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,170 We're all from different countries. 952 00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:25,360 Our ancestors. 953 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,570 Why is it that we are as a Hispanic, 954 00:57:29,570 --> 00:57:36,010 targeted to be left out to be go home. 955 00:57:36,010 --> 00:57:40,390 As you heard the stories of my friends here. 956 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:44,980 Everyone is entitled to a chance, even those 957 00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:49,870 that I interpret for in the First Circuit dressed in orange 958 00:57:49,870 --> 00:57:53,890 because they made a mistake just like a Caucasian brother 959 00:57:53,890 --> 00:57:55,900 or a Black brother. 960 00:57:55,900 --> 00:57:57,500 They have a right. 961 00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:00,080 Mr Cochran, to be heard in court. 962 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,510 And I am their voice when they speak to our honorable judges. 963 00:58:04,510 --> 00:58:11,120 And I ask you to be a here to adhere to our voices. 964 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,690 And to reconsider this can of worms 965 00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:18,320 that you're trying to open because it's affecting everyone, 966 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:23,810 not only alleles, as you call it, but also the alleles, 967 00:58:23,810 --> 00:58:26,530 the people that are from here, the people that 968 00:58:26,530 --> 00:58:29,410 have status in this country. 969 00:58:29,410 --> 00:58:34,330 We are being judged by the color of our skins and our last names. 970 00:58:34,330 --> 00:58:37,930 And I need you to take a step back 971 00:58:37,930 --> 00:58:42,640 and look at this very carefully before you sign off on this. 972 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,510 I Thank you. 973 00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:45,250 Thank you, Ms Jones. 974 00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:48,520 All right, sir. 975 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,580 Anybody else that wish to speak on this. 976 00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:52,720 Do you want to speak. 977 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,420 Yes, go ahead. 978 00:58:55,420 --> 00:58:58,900 My name is Teodoro aqua. 979 00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:02,050 I've been here for resident for 29 years in Pensacola. 980 00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:03,800 Thank God I've never been arrested. 981 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,980 I have no problems at all. 982 00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:11,380 But like we said we also trust in God. 983 00:59:11,380 --> 00:59:14,220 We believe in God. 984 00:59:14,220 --> 00:59:19,980 We suffer like everybody else, but we suffer the most. 985 00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:23,880 It seems like we are not welcome. 986 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:32,160 We have so much on our backs, but we still believe in God. 987 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:38,190 We do the hard work and we are not wanted. 988 00:59:38,190 --> 00:59:44,850 Only people that own business, they understand the people 989 00:59:44,850 --> 00:59:52,770 that works, the people that hardly ever go to the doctor, 990 00:59:52,770 --> 00:59:58,170 regardless whether they have money or not. 991 00:59:58,170 --> 01:00:05,105 But my other thing is in the future days, I would like to. 992 01:00:05,105 --> 01:00:08,490 993 01:00:08,490 --> 01:00:13,810 Like you guys I mean, we have a preacher here this morning, 994 01:00:13,810 --> 01:00:15,880 and I'm glad that this happens. 995 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,740 It's all about relating to God, right. 996 01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:22,770 I believe. 997 01:00:22,770 --> 01:00:27,030 But in the future days, I would like to hear or see 998 01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:40,140 a preacher, a pastor, a priest to step up and see for those who 999 01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:48,000 came recently or like this lady, she was born here 1000 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,750 and she's still discriminated. 1001 01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:53,110 1002 01:00:53,110 --> 01:00:56,560 How often do you see a priest or a preacher 1003 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:02,530 talking about this issue that we're dealing with right now. 1004 01:01:02,530 --> 01:01:04,240 Not much. 1005 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,620 We go outside, we clean the streets, 1006 01:01:06,620 --> 01:01:10,100 we get credits and get awards. 1007 01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:12,950 But I haven't seen much. 1008 01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:14,283 And I don't want to offend nobody. 1009 01:01:14,283 --> 01:01:17,890 1010 01:01:17,890 --> 01:01:22,450 God brought me to this point and this that I'm wearing. 1011 01:01:22,450 --> 01:01:24,640 It's not today. 1012 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,550 I wear it on a daily basis. 1013 01:01:27,550 --> 01:01:31,750 I'm not impressing anybody. 1014 01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:39,640 I just like to have this new law or whatever 1015 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:45,010 it is to be modified to deal with the heart of God 1016 01:01:45,010 --> 01:01:48,280 before you do anything with it. 1017 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,900 I mean, Thank you, sir. 1018 01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:50,400 Thank you. 1019 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,880 Thank you. 1020 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,320 All right. 1021 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,470 I want to do a closing remark. 1022 01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:57,250 Yes, ma'am. 1023 01:01:57,250 --> 01:01:58,110 My name is Alma. 1024 01:01:58,110 --> 01:01:59,720 I live here in Santa Rosa County. 1025 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,210 And pace our stories. 1026 01:02:02,210 --> 01:02:04,970 Those of us of undocumented individuals, 1027 01:02:04,970 --> 01:02:08,710 of perseverance and dedication can inspire others and highlight 1028 01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:11,620 the diverse fabric of American society, 1029 01:02:11,620 --> 01:02:14,780 showing that anyone, regardless of their origins, 1030 01:02:14,780 --> 01:02:17,990 can make a meaningful impact. 1031 01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:22,610 The written portion of your proposal, Mr Caulkins, it's. 1032 01:02:22,610 --> 01:02:25,880 It's well said, but you end in a bad note 1033 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,890 after hearing all of the stories of everybody 1034 01:02:27,890 --> 01:02:29,290 that has come up today. 1035 01:02:29,290 --> 01:02:31,290 I hope you take everything into consideration. 1036 01:02:31,290 --> 01:02:37,010 And how you're opening the possibility of profiling anyone 1037 01:02:37,010 --> 01:02:42,290 that has our skin color and that has last names 1038 01:02:42,290 --> 01:02:45,320 that are of Hispanic origin. 1039 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,770 That's it. 1040 01:02:47,770 --> 01:02:49,750 Thank you, ma'am. 1041 01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:50,270 All right. 1042 01:02:50,270 --> 01:02:52,590 I'm going to go to our next speaker. 1043 01:02:52,590 --> 01:02:54,160 I do want to explain to you the handouts 1044 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,740 that I placed at your seats. 1045 01:02:57,740 --> 01:03:00,130 They are copies of the newspaper that 1046 01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:04,750 show work that we do with Santa Rosa County, as well 1047 01:03:04,750 --> 01:03:10,960 as public safety and celebrate education with our families 1048 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,670 in the community. 1049 01:03:12,670 --> 01:03:15,700 There's also a Spanish language disaster guide that we've been 1050 01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:17,980 publishing for several years. 1051 01:03:17,980 --> 01:03:20,230 My background is working in emergency management 1052 01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:22,720 with originally with American Red Cross 1053 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,680 work for Escambia County as well. 1054 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,660 And I dedicate my every day in helping 1055 01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:31,510 this community stay safe. 1056 01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:32,790 That's why we're here. 1057 01:03:32,790 --> 01:03:37,510 That last the print out there is a photo of Francisco Crawford 1058 01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:41,830 that I spoke about that had the bullet go through his eye 1059 01:03:41,830 --> 01:03:45,400 and hit his ear and lodged in his neck. 1060 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:53,330 He's been back to visit to heal himself emotionally. 1061 01:03:53,330 --> 01:03:55,700 The article was the only one I could find. 1062 01:03:55,700 --> 01:04:00,950 That was from an English publication, English language 1063 01:04:00,950 --> 01:04:02,540 publication, available online. 1064 01:04:02,540 --> 01:04:05,160 So you can see what happened there. 1065 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,260 But it was a devastating situation. 1066 01:04:08,260 --> 01:04:08,910 Thank you. 1067 01:04:08,910 --> 01:04:12,660 And I will say, your reputation precedes you. 1068 01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:15,890 And so I know that there are a tremendous amount of people 1069 01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:17,960 that you'll never meet personally that are extremely 1070 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,380 thankful, especially for the information 1071 01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:23,160 that you want to put out. 1072 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,260 And so we really appreciate what you do on that. 1073 01:04:25,260 --> 01:04:25,950 Yes, ma'am. 1074 01:04:25,950 --> 01:04:29,540 1075 01:04:29,540 --> 01:04:30,120 All right. 1076 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,300 I've got a mystery. 1077 01:04:31,300 --> 01:04:33,370 Chapman also on the list for this item. 1078 01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:39,500 1079 01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:43,140 Sherri Chapman, Pea Ridge. 1080 01:04:43,140 --> 01:04:43,640 What? 1081 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,150 I saw this resolution. 1082 01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:49,400 I was stunned. 1083 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,910 First of all, preaching from the diocese 1084 01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:56,930 about no, about less government, less government. 1085 01:04:56,930 --> 01:04:59,310 Do this is more government. 1086 01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:01,700 This is just the opposite. 1087 01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:06,800 And because it's a campaign time and there's not really anything 1088 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,160 that you can stand out with. 1089 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,510 We have two of you running on this platform 1090 01:05:14,510 --> 01:05:17,960 right here saying that you're going 1091 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,540 to work on illegal all this. 1092 01:05:21,540 --> 01:05:23,550 Read your campaign mail outs. 1093 01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:24,384 They're ridiculous. 1094 01:05:24,384 --> 01:05:27,020 1095 01:05:27,020 --> 01:05:35,690 Our governor put forth SB 1718 to guide municipalities and 1096 01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:39,840 cities on how to handle things. 1097 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:47,010 It's not to go out and look at somebody and decide. 1098 01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:50,110 It's clear guidelines. 1099 01:05:50,110 --> 01:05:51,700 It puts it on hospitals. 1100 01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:54,120 They can't refuse care. 1101 01:05:54,120 --> 01:06:01,050 So this is not one that chastises alleles 1102 01:06:01,050 --> 01:06:02,790 that the government made. 1103 01:06:02,790 --> 01:06:09,630 This does this is crazy to say on a campaign card 1104 01:06:09,630 --> 01:06:13,960 that you're going to fix illegal immigration. 1105 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,090 The only thing that we can do as a County 1106 01:06:18,090 --> 01:06:21,730 is let the Sheriff handle it. 1107 01:06:21,730 --> 01:06:25,870 If there is an infraction on the law, then he will handle it. 1108 01:06:25,870 --> 01:06:28,060 But we don't go out to job sites. 1109 01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:30,330 We don't go out hunting for people 1110 01:06:30,330 --> 01:06:33,900 and saying, hey, are you illegal. 1111 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:37,590 This promotes people to be hateful. 1112 01:06:37,590 --> 01:06:40,690 All these things, when I read some of them, 1113 01:06:40,690 --> 01:06:42,780 I just absolutely could not believe 1114 01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:45,770 I was in the United States of America and Santa Rosa County. 1115 01:06:45,770 --> 01:06:50,940 1116 01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:55,423 Santa Rosa County does not welcome illegal aliens. 1117 01:06:55,423 --> 01:06:58,800 1118 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:05,760 Mr Calkins, I believe your wife came from Russia. 1119 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,070 I'm glad that she had the money back 1120 01:07:08,070 --> 01:07:12,600 in her and political influence to get 1121 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,300 in and be a citizen faster than people 1122 01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:17,990 that have been here 20 years. 1123 01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:21,840 So you think about that. 1124 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,080 Thank you for your comments. 1125 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,930 I don't have any other folks signed up 1126 01:07:27,930 --> 01:07:29,380 to speak on this agenda item. 1127 01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:31,410 Was there anybody else that wanted to speak 1128 01:07:31,410 --> 01:07:33,350 on this particular agenda item. 1129 01:07:33,350 --> 01:07:41,290 1130 01:07:41,290 --> 01:07:42,230 Jerry Cooley. 1131 01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:43,010 Milton, Florida. 1132 01:07:43,010 --> 01:07:45,520 1133 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:50,950 I doubt if anybody is in favor of illegal immigration, 1134 01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:55,120 but let me help you since you seem to be struggling, James. 1135 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,670 We have a Sheriff's department. 1136 01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:59,800 That's their job. 1137 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,460 Ice that's their job. 1138 01:08:03,460 --> 01:08:06,970 This resolution reminds me of the signs that we have up all 1139 01:08:06,970 --> 01:08:11,250 over the place that says fined for littering. 1140 01:08:11,250 --> 01:08:13,550 If people are going to break the law, 1141 01:08:13,550 --> 01:08:16,899 this resolution is not going to stop them from doing it. 1142 01:08:16,899 --> 01:08:22,910 And I've been silent on some of your actions, 1143 01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:25,630 but I'm not going to be silent on this one. 1144 01:08:25,630 --> 01:08:29,439 Everyone knows what this is. 1145 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,630 This is rhetoric. 1146 01:08:31,630 --> 01:08:34,479 This is dog whistle stuff. 1147 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,779 The board of County Commissioners, your job 1148 01:08:37,779 --> 01:08:41,600 is to fund the Sheriff's Department, which you've done. 1149 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,720 Your job is to have conversations with the Sheriff's 1150 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,540 Department periodically to encourage 1151 01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:52,700 them to make sure they're getting that job done. 1152 01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:57,590 You should have already had that conversation with them, 1153 01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:59,390 to be quite honest. 1154 01:08:59,390 --> 01:09:02,300 I have a list that shows that there's 1155 01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:06,890 at least a handful of folks that have been arrested by ICE. 1156 01:09:06,890 --> 01:09:10,130 So the system is working. 1157 01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:14,569 Everybody sees this for what it is. 1158 01:09:14,569 --> 01:09:18,290 And I'm going to say it today. 1159 01:09:18,290 --> 01:09:23,330 Three of you need to say no to this. 1160 01:09:23,330 --> 01:09:26,310 Three of you need to push this to the side. 1161 01:09:26,310 --> 01:09:28,200 We have a good Sheriff. 1162 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,969 He has a marvelous staff, and they're keeping us safe. 1163 01:09:33,969 --> 01:09:37,200 1164 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,179 I need three of you to say no to this. 1165 01:09:39,179 --> 01:09:39,679 Thank you. 1166 01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:44,020 1167 01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:44,520 All right. 1168 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,310 Is there any other speakers on this agenda item. 1169 01:09:48,310 --> 01:09:48,810 All right. 1170 01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:51,020 Seeing none, I'll go back to Commissioner Collins. 1171 01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:52,470 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 1172 01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:54,990 I appreciate all the public input on it. 1173 01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:59,000 And I want you all to know that this is something 1174 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,970 that I worked really hard on. 1175 01:10:00,970 --> 01:10:06,330 I worked with our County attorney and he helped. 1176 01:10:06,330 --> 01:10:08,510 I also. 1177 01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:10,970 The Sheriff was brought up. 1178 01:10:10,970 --> 01:10:13,490 I talked to the Sheriff about this 1179 01:10:13,490 --> 01:10:16,820 and whether he would support this resolution. 1180 01:10:16,820 --> 01:10:23,240 Well, he told me he fully supports this resolution. 1181 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:29,750 Illegal immigration is a serious problem in Santa Rosa County 1182 01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:32,780 and the United States of America. 1183 01:10:32,780 --> 01:10:35,990 And for a speaker to come up here and say everything's 1184 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:42,360 OK, that we don't have a problem is totally wrong. 1185 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,490 We have a major problem in this country 1186 01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:46,960 right now with illegal immigration, 1187 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,780 with crimes being committed by illegal immigrants and people 1188 01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:53,180 not following the law. 1189 01:10:53,180 --> 01:10:55,420 It's a serious problem. 1190 01:10:55,420 --> 01:10:59,190 And we need to do what we can as commissioners to help 1191 01:10:59,190 --> 01:11:01,865 stop it with what we can do. 1192 01:11:01,865 --> 01:11:04,840 1193 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:10,640 I put forth a resolution that's very, very simple. 1194 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,380 And basically, I'm going to read it. 1195 01:11:14,380 --> 01:11:15,910 And I want to make something clear. 1196 01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:20,430 This resolution in no way affects or says 1197 01:11:20,430 --> 01:11:25,000 anything about legal immigrants, about folks who follow the law. 1198 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,760 It specifically says it in here. 1199 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,730 What this resolution addresses is illegal aliens, 1200 01:11:30,730 --> 01:11:32,910 illegal immigration. 1201 01:11:32,910 --> 01:11:35,610 That's what we at Santa Rosa County commissioners 1202 01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:36,730 need to say. 1203 01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:39,210 Unacceptable if you break the law, 1204 01:11:39,210 --> 01:11:41,880 it should never be acceptable to break the law 1205 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,300 anywhere in the United States. 1206 01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:47,030 We have a nation of laws. 1207 01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:51,540 So I'm going to read the resolution right here. 1208 01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:55,740 A resolution declaring that Santa Rosa County, Florida, does 1209 01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:58,180 not welcome illegal aliens. 1210 01:11:58,180 --> 01:12:01,320 Whereas Santa Rosa County welcomes 1211 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,420 and honors legal immigrants. 1212 01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:07,380 And whereas, legal immigration is 1213 01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:11,130 vital to the economic, technological and strategic 1214 01:12:11,130 --> 01:12:12,970 strength of our country. 1215 01:12:12,970 --> 01:12:16,200 And whereas, Santa Rosa County is committed 1216 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,980 to supporting lawful immigration and providing opportunities 1217 01:12:19,980 --> 01:12:22,260 for legal immigrants who contribute 1218 01:12:22,260 --> 01:12:24,580 positively to our community. 1219 01:12:24,580 --> 01:12:27,420 And whereas, currently the federal government 1220 01:12:27,420 --> 01:12:31,110 is intentionally violating asylum laws and spending 1221 01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:33,450 billions of dollars in taxpayer funds 1222 01:12:33,450 --> 01:12:38,490 to admit illegal immigrants, many who are serious criminals. 1223 01:12:38,490 --> 01:12:42,360 And whereas the safety and security of the citizens 1224 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,810 of Santa Rosa County is of utmost importance 1225 01:12:45,810 --> 01:12:49,290 and illegal immigration poses significant challenges 1226 01:12:49,290 --> 01:12:53,380 to public safety, public health, and the economic well-being 1227 01:12:53,380 --> 01:12:54,500 of our community. 1228 01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:57,610 And whereas the rule of law must be 1229 01:12:57,610 --> 01:13:00,490 upheld to ensure the fair and just 1230 01:13:00,490 --> 01:13:03,050 treatment of all individuals. 1231 01:13:03,050 --> 01:13:05,380 Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Board 1232 01:13:05,380 --> 01:13:08,150 of County Commissioners of Santa Rosa County, Florida. 1233 01:13:08,150 --> 01:13:12,460 Section 1 Santa Rosa County does not welcome illegal aliens 1234 01:13:12,460 --> 01:13:16,000 and stands in support of federal and state laws 1235 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,770 designed to prevent illegal immigration. 1236 01:13:18,770 --> 01:13:19,910 Section 2. 1237 01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:23,770 Santa Rosa County will cooperate fully with federal and state 1238 01:13:23,770 --> 01:13:26,470 authorities to enforce immigration laws 1239 01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:29,860 and ensure illegal immigration is not tolerated 1240 01:13:29,860 --> 01:13:31,520 within our jurisdiction. 1241 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,520 Section 3. 1242 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:33,910 The board of County Commissioners 1243 01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:37,720 encourages all residents to respect the rule of law 1244 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,270 and support lawful immigration processes. 1245 01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:45,160 Folks, that is the resolution clear as day. 1246 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,020 It's about illegal immigration. 1247 01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:54,100 And it also says that we support legal immigrants and our country 1248 01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,420 was founded on immigration. 1249 01:13:56,420 --> 01:13:58,490 We are all immigrants, we acknowledge, 1250 01:13:58,490 --> 01:14:03,870 but we have the rule of law that we need to stand in support of. 1251 01:14:03,870 --> 01:14:08,010 And this is a major issue in Santa Rosa County, 1252 01:14:08,010 --> 01:14:11,980 and we need a show. 1253 01:14:11,980 --> 01:14:13,220 Our citizens. 1254 01:14:13,220 --> 01:14:17,660 We need to show the country that we're taking a stand. 1255 01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:19,390 It's kind of like having a no trespassing 1256 01:14:19,390 --> 01:14:22,410 sign in front of your house. 1257 01:14:22,410 --> 01:14:25,450 Yeah, people can still cross the line. 1258 01:14:25,450 --> 01:14:27,280 They can still violate that. 1259 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,280 But at least we're putting a no trespassing 1260 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,950 sign for all illegal activity in Santa Rosa County. 1261 01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:34,120 That's what this is about. 1262 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:35,560 And this will have an effect. 1263 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,090 And again, Sheriff Bob Johnson told me 1264 01:14:39,090 --> 01:14:40,800 that I'm allowed to say that he fully 1265 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,850 supports this at this meeting. 1266 01:14:42,850 --> 01:14:50,430 So I'm prepared to make a motion unless there's any questions. 1267 01:14:50,430 --> 01:14:53,420 1268 01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:55,680 Any questions or comments by any fellow board members. 1269 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,230 Commissioner Wright. 1270 01:14:57,230 --> 01:15:00,170 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 1271 01:15:00,170 --> 01:15:02,930 May I ask Commissioner Calkins a questions for a simple answer 1272 01:15:02,930 --> 01:15:04,390 and then I'll move on to some comments. 1273 01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:07,310 1274 01:15:07,310 --> 01:15:12,860 James my question will be why this. 1275 01:15:12,860 --> 01:15:15,050 And as a follow up, why not create 1276 01:15:15,050 --> 01:15:19,620 a resolution for everything that is possibly illegal out there. 1277 01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:23,430 Board of County Commissioners resolution against shoplifting. 1278 01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:26,370 Resolution against drinking and driving. 1279 01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:29,670 A simple question, and I'd like to hear your response 1280 01:15:29,670 --> 01:15:33,110 and then I'll follow up with some comments. 1281 01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:34,190 Thank you. 1282 01:15:34,190 --> 01:15:37,810 This was an issue addressed to me by Citizens. 1283 01:15:37,810 --> 01:15:38,630 It was. 1284 01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:39,980 It was a problem. 1285 01:15:39,980 --> 01:15:45,700 I got a message probably about three weeks ago 1286 01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:48,940 that there was this was going out on social media 1287 01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:50,170 and it was a message. 1288 01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:51,170 I'm going to read the message. 1289 01:15:51,170 --> 01:15:54,620 It says approximately 120 what looked like illegal aliens, 1290 01:15:54,620 --> 01:15:56,560 military age men without families 1291 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,650 dropped off by a bus at Love's on I-10 in Bagdad, Florida, 1292 01:16:00,650 --> 01:16:02,800 right by Milton last night. 1293 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,410 So I got this message and me as a County commissioner. 1294 01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:09,270 What can I do about that. 1295 01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:10,970 We can. 1296 01:16:10,970 --> 01:16:13,140 We can only do so much. 1297 01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:16,600 But at least we can put out a message saying that no, no, no. 1298 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,040 Illegal aliens are not welcome in Santa Rosa County. 1299 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,030 That is where it could have an effect. 1300 01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:24,630 Maybe they'll skip Santa Rosa County because they heard 1301 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:26,050 that we don't support this. 1302 01:16:26,050 --> 01:16:28,880 So that's the way it could help. 1303 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,940 This issue is about. 1304 01:16:31,940 --> 01:16:32,880 Illegal immigration. 1305 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,090 And I also want to say this isn't something 1306 01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:37,770 that just came up now. 1307 01:16:37,770 --> 01:16:43,110 I have fought in 2002 1,000, around 2010, 1308 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:46,827 I went to the legislators, spoke up in favor of e-verify. 1309 01:16:46,827 --> 01:16:48,060 And you know what the legislator did. 1310 01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:49,580 They voted it down. 1311 01:16:49,580 --> 01:16:52,580 OK I went up to the legislator and spoke 1312 01:16:52,580 --> 01:16:55,070 in front of the legislator saying 1313 01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:59,240 we need to go against college tuition for illegal immigrants. 1314 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,530 What the legislator did. 1315 01:17:00,530 --> 01:17:04,010 They voted for college tuition for illegal immigrants. 1316 01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:06,680 OK I went to the legislator and spoke 1317 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,210 out against driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. 1318 01:17:09,210 --> 01:17:10,030 What they did. 1319 01:17:10,030 --> 01:17:12,630 They voted for driver's license for illegal immigrants. 1320 01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:15,180 And there was one vote that voted against it, one vote. 1321 01:17:15,180 --> 01:17:17,670 That was Matt Gaetz. 1322 01:17:17,670 --> 01:17:19,480 And his dad, Don Gaetz. 1323 01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:21,760 And what is that. 1324 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,100 So Thank. 1325 01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,210 I'm so thankful for President Trump. 1326 01:17:25,210 --> 01:17:27,240 I'm thankful for Governor Ron DeSantis 1327 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,240 because if we didn't have them because later on down the line, 1328 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,480 they started getting tough on illegal immigration. 1329 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:39,983 They started e-verify, finally became law, the sanctuary city. 1330 01:17:39,983 --> 01:17:41,250 Let me to interrupt you, but you still 1331 01:17:41,250 --> 01:17:44,220 didn't answer the question. 1332 01:17:44,220 --> 01:17:47,460 I mean, that was I mean, that was magnificent. 1333 01:17:47,460 --> 01:17:48,190 I get it. 1334 01:17:48,190 --> 01:17:51,010 You dropped lots of names and went on and on and on. 1335 01:17:51,010 --> 01:17:52,980 And I'm sorry for everyone, but this 1336 01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:56,940 is going to be a long meeting, all because of this one issue. 1337 01:17:56,940 --> 01:18:00,780 But I'm going to give you a lesson in leadership. 1338 01:18:00,780 --> 01:18:05,100 So you did not answer the question why 1339 01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:07,580 this and not every other thing. 1340 01:18:07,580 --> 01:18:09,270 OK, I know why. 1341 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:10,330 OK because you didn't answer. 1342 01:18:10,330 --> 01:18:11,710 So you obviously don't have an answer. 1343 01:18:11,710 --> 01:18:15,420 I know why the answer is because you don't care. 1344 01:18:15,420 --> 01:18:17,610 You don't care about all of these things. 1345 01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:19,450 This is simply a political stunt. 1346 01:18:19,450 --> 01:18:20,560 I'm sick and tired of it. 1347 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:30,990 This Good Lord knows that when bad things happen, 1348 01:18:30,990 --> 01:18:32,640 things in life that I think are negative, 1349 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,230 I always try to view them as an opportunity. 1350 01:18:34,230 --> 01:18:35,460 And that's exactly what this is. 1351 01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:37,160 This is an opportunity. 1352 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,460 I am done. 1353 01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:41,360 And just so everyone is prepared in the media and out there 1354 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,450 in the public, when the attacks start coming at me, when you 1355 01:18:44,450 --> 01:18:47,780 start seeing mail pieces, advertisements in digital form 1356 01:18:47,780 --> 01:18:51,830 and on television come from his grandmother's pack, 1357 01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:53,690 you'll know why. 1358 01:18:53,690 --> 01:18:56,430 But you're right, it is politics, James. 1359 01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:57,510 It is politics. 1360 01:18:57,510 --> 01:18:59,090 And I'm sick of it. 1361 01:18:59,090 --> 01:19:01,460 As someone who comes from Irish heritage 1362 01:19:01,460 --> 01:19:03,920 and knows what the Irish people dealt 1363 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,660 with in this country and the discrimination that happened, 1364 01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:08,090 that's a problem. 1365 01:19:08,090 --> 01:19:09,990 It's a problem for the Hispanics. 1366 01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:11,040 It's a problem for Blacks. 1367 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,440 It's a problem for Asians, a problem for everybody. 1368 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:15,890 And this business about I talked to the Sheriff 1369 01:19:15,890 --> 01:19:17,640 and the Sheriff 100% supports this. 1370 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,120 I'm telling you, folks, someone is lying or not 1371 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,710 being fully honest, because I've spoken with the Sheriff to 1372 01:19:24,710 --> 01:19:26,510 and they are the Sheriff told me he thought 1373 01:19:26,510 --> 01:19:27,730 this was a harebrained idea. 1374 01:19:27,730 --> 01:19:30,730 1375 01:19:30,730 --> 01:19:32,650 And the Sheriff's department does 1376 01:19:32,650 --> 01:19:36,280 not enforce immigration law. 1377 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,070 Ice does. 1378 01:19:37,070 --> 01:19:39,950 And the feds do. 1379 01:19:39,950 --> 01:19:42,740 What the Sheriff's Department can enforce 1380 01:19:42,740 --> 01:19:46,170 is human trafficking. 1381 01:19:46,170 --> 01:19:49,410 In any number of other issues out there. 1382 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:51,390 Now, as a commissioner who has worked closely 1383 01:19:51,390 --> 01:19:55,890 with the Sheriff's Department on human trafficking issues, 1384 01:19:55,890 --> 01:19:59,340 that, Yes, does have to deal with illegal immigration, 1385 01:19:59,340 --> 01:20:01,320 it also has to do with people being 1386 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,080 trafficked for other parts of the world 1387 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,170 and sold into the sex slave. 1388 01:20:08,170 --> 01:20:11,690 But there's a difference in actually working with people, 1389 01:20:11,690 --> 01:20:14,980 building relationships and trying to accomplish something 1390 01:20:14,980 --> 01:20:18,700 rather than put some resolution together to try to gain 1391 01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:20,980 votes and get attention. 1392 01:20:20,980 --> 01:20:24,440 From day one, you've done this time and time and time again, 1393 01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:27,020 you've brought something forward to create chaos, 1394 01:20:27,020 --> 01:20:30,640 to get some name recognition and put this board, whether it be 1395 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,750 these five here, the four of us or the four that were here 1396 01:20:34,750 --> 01:20:38,350 before, in a tough position to try to leverage us 1397 01:20:38,350 --> 01:20:41,660 and to try to make us vote for something so we don't look bad. 1398 01:20:41,660 --> 01:20:43,070 We don't look like we're not American. 1399 01:20:43,070 --> 01:20:45,910 We don't look like we're not patriotic. 1400 01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:46,830 And the precious. 1401 01:20:46,830 --> 01:20:50,860 1402 01:20:50,860 --> 01:20:53,810 There is no doubt that America is a melting pot. 1403 01:20:53,810 --> 01:20:56,020 Look, you're not going to find anyone 1404 01:20:56,020 --> 01:20:57,310 in this room that thinks Yeah, it's 1405 01:20:57,310 --> 01:21:00,520 a great idea to break the law. 1406 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:01,820 Breaking the law is a good idea. 1407 01:21:01,820 --> 01:21:04,630 We approve illegal immigration. 1408 01:21:04,630 --> 01:21:09,390 No one thinks that's a great idea. 1409 01:21:09,390 --> 01:21:10,760 Not one of us. 1410 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,850 So on that, we agree. 1411 01:21:13,850 --> 01:21:17,100 Illegal immigration is probably not a good thing. 1412 01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:26,710 But immigration is a very, very, very complicated 1413 01:21:26,710 --> 01:21:29,080 and bureaucratic thing. 1414 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,190 We just from the County level here. 1415 01:21:31,190 --> 01:21:35,530 How difficult it is to handle issues, 1416 01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:39,770 how difficult it is to just build a house, build a road, 1417 01:21:39,770 --> 01:21:41,060 create a park. 1418 01:21:41,060 --> 01:21:45,310 It's sausage making and it's bureaucratic 1419 01:21:45,310 --> 01:21:47,410 and it takes way too long. 1420 01:21:47,410 --> 01:21:50,580 I think we can agree on that. 1421 01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:52,420 And every level of government you go up, 1422 01:21:52,420 --> 01:21:56,090 it gets worse and worse and worse. 1423 01:21:56,090 --> 01:21:58,160 And one of the reasons immigration 1424 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:03,110 is so complicated is because of people on both sides that 1425 01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:06,110 use this ridiculous rhetoric and not a damn one of them 1426 01:22:06,110 --> 01:22:09,760 actually wants to solve a problem. 1427 01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,387 It's the same kind of stuff that happens in this boardroom. 1428 01:22:12,387 --> 01:22:13,720 It's the same kind of stuff that happens 1429 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,670 in Tallahassee and every other level of government. 1430 01:22:16,670 --> 01:22:19,680 1431 01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,420 And I stepped up a few years ago to try to solve some problems. 1432 01:22:24,420 --> 01:22:25,660 Staff knows this. 1433 01:22:25,660 --> 01:22:26,920 I think most of the people know this. 1434 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,430 The people that disagree with my decisions I think still 1435 01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:32,560 can understand that I'm just trying to solve a problem. 1436 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,820 And that's what I'm hoping all five of us are trying to do. 1437 01:22:35,820 --> 01:22:39,080 But in my experience. 1438 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,210 I haven't seen a situation where you've actually 1439 01:22:41,210 --> 01:22:43,220 tried to solve a problem and there's not a problem you're 1440 01:22:43,220 --> 01:22:44,305 trying to solve with this. 1441 01:22:44,305 --> 01:22:46,880 1442 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,680 This is just an effort to divide people, to create discontent, 1443 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,130 to create hate, and to label people. 1444 01:22:52,130 --> 01:22:55,050 And you and you disguised it as well. 1445 01:22:55,050 --> 01:22:57,650 We're for we're for illegal immigration 1446 01:22:57,650 --> 01:22:59,670 and it's for the safety and security of the citizens. 1447 01:22:59,670 --> 01:23:01,053 And it's all empty words. 1448 01:23:01,053 --> 01:23:04,820 1449 01:23:04,820 --> 01:23:08,960 And on a morning like today where there's a traffic fatality 1450 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,470 on Highway 98 in Okaloosa County, 1451 01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:17,540 that is severely disrupting the mission of Hurlburt Field, 1452 01:23:17,540 --> 01:23:19,190 Eglin Air Force base, and the lives 1453 01:23:19,190 --> 01:23:22,010 of numerous thousands of Santa Rosa County citizens 1454 01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:23,005 trying to get to work. 1455 01:23:23,005 --> 01:23:26,920 1456 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,260 And we have issues like that and whether 1457 01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:33,090 or not we can try to do some kind of bypass road. 1458 01:23:33,090 --> 01:23:35,740 To help the nation's security. 1459 01:23:35,740 --> 01:23:38,430 The safety of our citizens, the safety of our citizens 1460 01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:40,950 is in this safety and security of the citizens of Santa Rosa 1461 01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:44,080 County is of utmost importance. 1462 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,100 Challenges to public safety, public health, 1463 01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:48,160 economic well-being of our community. 1464 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:53,200 The same lines could be tied to the traffic issue on Highway 98 1465 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,290 going to Hurlburt Field. 1466 01:23:55,290 --> 01:23:57,690 Our nation's security is part of that. 1467 01:23:57,690 --> 01:23:59,070 We have two people in this audience 1468 01:23:59,070 --> 01:24:02,760 that are part of the Special Operations community. 1469 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,860 It drives me crazy that we're not 1470 01:24:04,860 --> 01:24:06,310 working on something like that. 1471 01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:10,440 If you would put 5% of the effort 1472 01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,000 that you put into this kind of stuff 1473 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,700 into actually doing the work, building a relationship. 1474 01:24:16,700 --> 01:24:18,720 Talking to these people, working with FDOT, 1475 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,070 working with the Air Force, working with anyone 1476 01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:24,760 to try to solve something. 1477 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,950 We'd be in a much better place today. 1478 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:33,700 So you and your people can say whatever they want about me. 1479 01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:35,440 I welcome the attacks. 1480 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:36,790 My wife is prepared for it. 1481 01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:38,320 My family is prepared for it. 1482 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,700 You can make up all the lies you want, including the stuff you've 1483 01:24:41,700 --> 01:24:44,680 done, the candidates you've put in the race against me, 1484 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:45,820 all this stuff. 1485 01:24:45,820 --> 01:24:47,740 You're the one that made this political. 1486 01:24:47,740 --> 01:24:50,340 And this is not about me, but this 1487 01:24:50,340 --> 01:24:53,010 is about doing the right thing and shutting this kind of crap 1488 01:24:53,010 --> 01:24:53,680 down. 1489 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:54,970 And I'm voting no. 1490 01:24:54,970 --> 01:24:56,830 Even if I'm 4 to 1, I don't care. 1491 01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:58,590 This is wrong. 1492 01:24:58,590 --> 01:25:03,940 And I'm absolutely against illegal immigration. 1493 01:25:03,940 --> 01:25:06,340 Any other crime, anything that's wrong out there. 1494 01:25:06,340 --> 01:25:08,290 But this is empty. 1495 01:25:08,290 --> 01:25:09,890 This is absolutely empty. 1496 01:25:09,890 --> 01:25:13,040 1497 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,940 And when you actually work to do something to solve a problem, 1498 01:25:16,940 --> 01:25:18,890 I'll help you out. 1499 01:25:18,890 --> 01:25:20,280 Mr Chairman. 1500 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,850 You're going to have a chance to talk. 1501 01:25:21,850 --> 01:25:24,580 I want to thank you. 1502 01:25:24,580 --> 01:25:26,310 All right. 1503 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:29,700 I would like to say that every one of us 1504 01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:34,090 included, ran as a conservative Republican. 1505 01:25:34,090 --> 01:25:37,140 You actually put on your mailout that you support 1506 01:25:37,140 --> 01:25:38,770 gun rights when you ran. 1507 01:25:38,770 --> 01:25:40,270 You put out that you support gun rights. 1508 01:25:40,270 --> 01:25:43,620 And then on the first item I put on the agenda 1509 01:25:43,620 --> 01:25:48,810 when I got elected was to support constitutional carry. 1510 01:25:48,810 --> 01:25:49,900 And you know what you said. 1511 01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:52,140 You said, we don't have anything to do with this. 1512 01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:53,710 It's never going to pass. 1513 01:25:53,710 --> 01:25:54,870 It's never going to do. 1514 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:58,520 You just objected it. 1515 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,550 And guess what. 1516 01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:05,290 We were the first County to support that. 1517 01:26:05,290 --> 01:26:08,620 Send it to the Senate President, send it to the speaker. 1518 01:26:08,620 --> 01:26:09,610 And guess what. 1519 01:26:09,610 --> 01:26:11,820 The governor of our state of Florida 1520 01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:17,130 signed into law constitutional carry. 1521 01:26:17,130 --> 01:26:20,080 So what we do at a County level does have an effect, 1522 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,770 but it takes leaders to step out and show 1523 01:26:22,770 --> 01:26:25,430 we need we mean business. 1524 01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:29,570 You used you ran as a conservative. 1525 01:26:29,570 --> 01:26:31,760 You're no conservative, Colton, right. 1526 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,740 You are a full blown rhino liberal. 1527 01:26:34,740 --> 01:26:40,860 And its actions, you're against a common sense led resolution. 1528 01:26:40,860 --> 01:26:44,960 I can guarantee you 75% of Santa Rosa County residents 1529 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,320 would vote for this guaranteed. 1530 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,810 And I can tell you that this will 1531 01:26:50,810 --> 01:26:54,290 be a big issue because it shows it shows 1532 01:26:54,290 --> 01:26:57,150 who stands against illegal. 1533 01:26:57,150 --> 01:26:59,280 There are folks in Washington. 1534 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,450 There are local level people that don't want to do anything 1535 01:27:02,450 --> 01:27:04,290 about illegal immigration. 1536 01:27:04,290 --> 01:27:06,270 They want to do absolutely nothing. 1537 01:27:06,270 --> 01:27:08,450 They want to sit there while illegal immigrants come 1538 01:27:08,450 --> 01:27:12,020 across the border, kill people. 1539 01:27:12,020 --> 01:27:14,790 There is murders by illegal immigrants. 1540 01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:18,270 That girl in Georgia. 1541 01:27:18,270 --> 01:27:21,240 We are the people are losing their lives 1542 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,900 over illegal immigrants. 1543 01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:24,460 And you know why that's happening. 1544 01:27:24,460 --> 01:27:27,540 Because there are people that run as Republicans 1545 01:27:27,540 --> 01:27:28,870 that don't take a stand. 1546 01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:30,820 There's another commissioner, Kerry Smith, 1547 01:27:30,820 --> 01:27:33,490 who actually replaced a good Republican, 1548 01:27:33,490 --> 01:27:37,450 replace a good Republican and put a Democrat on a board. 1549 01:27:37,450 --> 01:27:38,870 And you voted for it. 1550 01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:39,760 Colton right. 1551 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:44,700 We have pure and full blown rhinos up here that vote 1552 01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:48,570 with the Democrat agenda that are for that are against gun 1553 01:27:48,570 --> 01:27:52,620 rights, that are against. 1554 01:27:52,620 --> 01:27:54,760 They sit there and say, they're there. 1555 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,330 They're against illegal immigration, 1556 01:27:56,330 --> 01:28:03,420 yet they won't even vote for an item that basically says. 1557 01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:06,430 That Santa Rosa County does not welcome illegal aliens. 1558 01:28:06,430 --> 01:28:09,050 Well, sir, that means you welcome illegal aliens. 1559 01:28:09,050 --> 01:28:10,590 That's what that means. 1560 01:28:10,590 --> 01:28:12,970 You said it. 1561 01:28:12,970 --> 01:28:18,390 So that's the message that's going to get out there. 1562 01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:21,270 Folks I ran as a conservative. 1563 01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:22,780 I'm still a conservative. 1564 01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:24,520 I didn't change when I got elected. 1565 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,830 And I've been fighting for conservative values. 1566 01:28:26,830 --> 01:28:30,960 I've been fighting to make sure that this board is 1567 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,980 not hijacked and taken over by liberal Democrats. 1568 01:28:33,980 --> 01:28:35,200 Folks, we're close. 1569 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,730 We're about. 1570 01:28:36,730 --> 01:28:39,370 We're about one vote away from this board 1571 01:28:39,370 --> 01:28:42,050 having a liberal majority. 1572 01:28:42,050 --> 01:28:49,540 And these are the kind of things that are so simple. 1573 01:28:49,540 --> 01:28:52,370 Easy easy to pass. 1574 01:28:52,370 --> 01:28:54,390 And all I can do. 1575 01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:55,230 I'm one commissioner. 1576 01:28:55,230 --> 01:28:56,280 I have one vote. 1577 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,150 I hope the rest of the board. 1578 01:28:59,150 --> 01:29:05,330 I hope we can get this passed and and I'll respect whatever 1579 01:29:05,330 --> 01:29:06,390 the will of the board because. 1580 01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:07,440 But the people will know. 1581 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,600 The people will know how we stand on this issue. 1582 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,770 It's very important. 1583 01:29:10,770 --> 01:29:12,800 It's one of the top issues. 1584 01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:19,730 So commissioner, one last thing. 1585 01:29:19,730 --> 01:29:21,860 The people know where I stand because I support 1586 01:29:21,860 --> 01:29:24,600 the Sheriff's Department. 1587 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,780 Time and time again. 1588 01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:29,190 I've been part of funding the Sheriff's Department. 1589 01:29:29,190 --> 01:29:30,870 Happy to do so. 1590 01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:32,130 Their budget has increased and we've 1591 01:29:32,130 --> 01:29:35,290 given them proper pay and the proper tools to do their job. 1592 01:29:35,290 --> 01:29:37,170 If you talk about gun rights, there's 1593 01:29:37,170 --> 01:29:39,180 my concealed carry permit. 1594 01:29:39,180 --> 01:29:42,790 There's my lifetime NRA membership. 1595 01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:46,060 Anytime you want to go shooting, come with me. 1596 01:29:46,060 --> 01:29:48,360 We can have a little contest if you want. 1597 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,230 If it's going to turn into a game, 1598 01:29:50,230 --> 01:29:52,720 we can talk about who has more guns, who has more ammunition. 1599 01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,010 This is ridiculous. 1600 01:29:54,010 --> 01:29:54,810 You objected. 1601 01:29:54,810 --> 01:30:00,760 This is ridiculous because the County does not control it. 1602 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,310 What we control is the Sheriff's budget. 1603 01:30:03,310 --> 01:30:04,120 It's simple. 1604 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,360 This is simple civics. 1605 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,150 It's civics. 1606 01:30:10,150 --> 01:30:15,310 Now what my incoming freshman daughter could not do 1607 01:30:15,310 --> 01:30:19,540 is school you on the game of politics. 1608 01:30:19,540 --> 01:30:21,870 That's a fact. 1609 01:30:21,870 --> 01:30:26,630 Because she's disgusted by what she sees at 14 years old. 1610 01:30:26,630 --> 01:30:29,330 But what she can do is she can school you 1611 01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:33,200 on civics and the separations of government 1612 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,840 and the different branches, whether it 1613 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,510 be at the federal level or the local level. 1614 01:30:38,510 --> 01:30:41,970 And the fact is you and this board, 1615 01:30:41,970 --> 01:30:44,150 we should be focused on an ordinance 1616 01:30:44,150 --> 01:30:46,130 that makes a difference. 1617 01:30:46,130 --> 01:30:47,540 The land development code where it 1618 01:30:47,540 --> 01:30:50,670 makes a difference, investing in recreation, 1619 01:30:50,670 --> 01:30:52,910 investing in infrastructure. 1620 01:30:52,910 --> 01:30:54,280 That's our job. 1621 01:30:54,280 --> 01:31:00,950 That is our job where we get involved in federal issues 1622 01:31:00,950 --> 01:31:05,320 is when we start talking about how does our County help. 1623 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:09,220 Support our local military bases from an infrastructure 1624 01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:11,900 standpoint, from a funding standpoint. 1625 01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:13,640 How do we support our veterans. 1626 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:18,400 It's what this board can actually to do that, though. 1627 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,080 Not put useless words on a sheet of paper. 1628 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,450 And that's why I know you're going to use 1629 01:31:22,450 --> 01:31:23,780 this to attack everybody. 1630 01:31:23,780 --> 01:31:24,550 I'm a rhino. 1631 01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:26,540 You like to say that stuff all the time. 1632 01:31:26,540 --> 01:31:28,930 I'm a proud Reagan Republican. 1633 01:31:28,930 --> 01:31:30,670 And you can. 1634 01:31:30,670 --> 01:31:31,790 This is ridiculous. 1635 01:31:31,790 --> 01:31:33,550 This doesn't even need to be partisan. 1636 01:31:33,550 --> 01:31:38,530 But do not question my Second Amendment bona fides. 1637 01:31:38,530 --> 01:31:40,790 You objected the constitutional carry. 1638 01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:42,800 So that's actions speak louder than words. 1639 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,140 Commissioner Parker, are we going 1640 01:31:44,140 --> 01:31:46,210 to be able to discuss this or is this going 1641 01:31:46,210 --> 01:31:48,640 to be a back and forth between. 1642 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:50,780 I think Commissioner Wright is finished. 1643 01:31:50,780 --> 01:31:52,633 I just wanted to allow him to get 1644 01:31:52,633 --> 01:31:53,600 through his train of thought. 1645 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,350 Go ahead, Commissioner Smith. 1646 01:31:55,350 --> 01:31:56,480 I want to do this. 1647 01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:59,210 And don't touch your little button there, 1648 01:31:59,210 --> 01:32:04,130 James, but well, it's not your turn. 1649 01:32:04,130 --> 01:32:06,370 I know you don't know the rules and how 1650 01:32:06,370 --> 01:32:09,020 to operate a proper meeting. 1651 01:32:09,020 --> 01:32:11,740 And it's just obvious even more. 1652 01:32:11,740 --> 01:32:15,460 You came out attacking me, and you can shut up. 1653 01:32:15,460 --> 01:32:17,335 I'll tell you to shut up from here. 1654 01:32:17,335 --> 01:32:19,940 1655 01:32:19,940 --> 01:32:23,020 I can't tell you politely. 1656 01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:27,680 I mean, get it, dude, and turn your microphone off. 1657 01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:28,900 You should be polite. 1658 01:32:28,900 --> 01:32:30,140 I'm trying to be. 1659 01:32:30,140 --> 01:32:30,920 But you can't. 1660 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,640 You can't keep your mouth shut. 1661 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,620 And it's just embarrassing. 1662 01:32:35,620 --> 01:32:37,400 I've had enough of it. 1663 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,620 I think this board's had enough of it. 1664 01:32:39,620 --> 01:32:42,730 We've had our fill of you doing these little stunts. 1665 01:32:42,730 --> 01:32:44,240 Congratulations you. 1666 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,060 You succeeded in your little stunt of. 1667 01:32:47,060 --> 01:32:49,420 Hey, if they go against it, I'm going to make 1668 01:32:49,420 --> 01:32:51,140 it look them against me. 1669 01:32:51,140 --> 01:32:53,930 I'm the only true conservative on this board. 1670 01:32:53,930 --> 01:32:57,110 You are far from being the true conservative on this board. 1671 01:32:57,110 --> 01:33:01,430 You have no clue of how to even govern anything you don't know. 1672 01:33:01,430 --> 01:33:04,270 You don't even know what your job is, sir. 1673 01:33:04,270 --> 01:33:09,680 And I say that with the I'm not saying that as a Gotcha. 1674 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:14,170 I'm saying that as an embarrassing fact. 1675 01:33:14,170 --> 01:33:17,080 It's embarrassing. 1676 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,240 What you do and do not know. 1677 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:25,233 And to do these kinds of things, it just blows me away. 1678 01:33:25,233 --> 01:33:27,200 And then all of a sudden you're going to come out and start 1679 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:33,210 talking about me appointing a Democrat to a board, 1680 01:33:33,210 --> 01:33:35,100 the Marine advisory board. 1681 01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:39,810 That's when we have repairs done on boat ramps. 1682 01:33:39,810 --> 01:33:42,300 It's nothing more than that. 1683 01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:42,930 I did not. 1684 01:33:42,930 --> 01:33:43,525 Shut up. 1685 01:33:43,525 --> 01:33:47,740 1686 01:33:47,740 --> 01:33:48,710 I'm sorry. 1687 01:33:48,710 --> 01:33:49,810 I can't. 1688 01:33:49,810 --> 01:33:53,800 It's like talking to a child. 1689 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,450 You replaced a Republican and put a Democrat, 1690 01:33:56,450 --> 01:33:59,590 and the man you replace is an honorable man. 1691 01:33:59,590 --> 01:34:00,680 I don't care what they were. 1692 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:04,100 1693 01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,440 The guy didn't show up to the meetings. 1694 01:34:06,440 --> 01:34:08,970 I replaced him with a marine biologist. 1695 01:34:08,970 --> 01:34:10,980 I didn't ask for her party affiliation. 1696 01:34:10,980 --> 01:34:12,120 I didn't care. 1697 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,550 These are not the kid grief guy. 1698 01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:18,960 Lee, man, you are just insufferable. 1699 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:19,620 I can't. 1700 01:34:19,620 --> 01:34:22,250 I don't know what else to do because you 1701 01:34:22,250 --> 01:34:24,330 can't keep your finger off your microphone. 1702 01:34:24,330 --> 01:34:25,830 You've got to start interjecting. 1703 01:34:25,830 --> 01:34:29,900 You've got to start your debate Follow the rules. 1704 01:34:29,900 --> 01:34:32,000 I know you want to aspire to get to Florida 1705 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,130 and do get in the legislature. 1706 01:34:35,130 --> 01:34:36,870 They'll boot you right out on your butt. 1707 01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:38,070 You start doing that stuff. 1708 01:34:38,070 --> 01:34:39,930 So let me give you a little lesson on that. 1709 01:34:39,930 --> 01:34:46,430 So some of the things that you're proposing. 1710 01:34:46,430 --> 01:34:48,450 They're ridiculous. 1711 01:34:48,450 --> 01:34:53,540 And when you brought up the point with the 120 1712 01:34:53,540 --> 01:34:58,020 legal immigrants that were at the Love's truck stop, for one, 1713 01:34:58,020 --> 01:34:59,610 looked into this. 1714 01:34:59,610 --> 01:35:04,040 For one had a state representative, the Sheriff's 1715 01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,380 Department and some citizens that 1716 01:35:06,380 --> 01:35:09,600 brought this to my attention in the conference room. 1717 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,390 And we ascertained that these were 1718 01:35:11,390 --> 01:35:15,770 people coming in on an h-1a or an h-2a visa 1719 01:35:15,770 --> 01:35:19,250 just coming through town. 1720 01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:22,250 But you're going to use it as a spark. 1721 01:35:22,250 --> 01:35:24,530 We're getting invaded. 1722 01:35:24,530 --> 01:35:27,590 They were stopping to use the restroom on their way 1723 01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:30,130 to South Florida. 1724 01:35:30,130 --> 01:35:34,030 So these are the things that are just when you come up 1725 01:35:34,030 --> 01:35:36,010 and you start shooting from the hip. 1726 01:35:36,010 --> 01:35:37,700 I did do the work. 1727 01:35:37,700 --> 01:35:43,040 I did hear the complaints and I did set up the meetings. 1728 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:47,150 So when we have these discussions, 1729 01:35:47,150 --> 01:35:49,230 this is really doing work. 1730 01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:55,320 Tom was on vacation last week. 1731 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,110 I don't know if he even answered the phone 1732 01:35:57,110 --> 01:35:58,790 and but I'm probably pretty sure he just 1733 01:35:58,790 --> 01:36:01,580 kept legally out of trouble. 1734 01:36:01,580 --> 01:36:05,600 He didn't do he didn't do any more than that. 1735 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,310 And for you to say that the Sheriff's 1736 01:36:07,310 --> 01:36:09,450 Office fully endorses this. 1737 01:36:09,450 --> 01:36:11,510 He just didn't see a problem. 1738 01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:14,330 Would you sink in his ship. 1739 01:36:14,330 --> 01:36:15,960 You're just doing what you do. 1740 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:21,710 James, this is your seventh resolution in 3 and 1/2 years. 1741 01:36:21,710 --> 01:36:23,160 I've got them all up here. 1742 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,160 Here Your predecessor of 20 years. 1743 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,810 I guarantee you he doesn't have seven resolutions 1744 01:36:29,810 --> 01:36:32,550 because he knew how to govern. 1745 01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:36,780 He knew how to direct policy to help his district. 1746 01:36:36,780 --> 01:36:39,390 He knew how to be a County commissioner. 1747 01:36:39,390 --> 01:36:40,675 Then why did he not get elected. 1748 01:36:40,675 --> 01:36:43,660 1749 01:36:43,660 --> 01:36:44,930 How do you know. 1750 01:36:44,930 --> 01:36:49,380 1751 01:36:49,380 --> 01:36:51,180 Again, James. 1752 01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:52,450 Again, James. 1753 01:36:52,450 --> 01:36:55,600 You just keep showing people. 1754 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,160 Your inability to follow directions. 1755 01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,130 The simplest direction. 1756 01:37:01,130 --> 01:37:03,230 How can you just. 1757 01:37:03,230 --> 01:37:04,820 I'm telling you. 1758 01:37:04,820 --> 01:37:06,750 I'm telling you right out of the gate. 1759 01:37:06,750 --> 01:37:10,190 And then have you checked with the HbA1c as to what you're 1760 01:37:10,190 --> 01:37:13,550 trying to accomplish here. 1761 01:37:13,550 --> 01:37:14,620 Good grief. 1762 01:37:14,620 --> 01:37:17,880 No, you can answer them in a block. 1763 01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,680 OK I'll let you answer them in a block, 1764 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,800 but you won't answer them anyway. 1765 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,880 You'll skirt around and you'll start preaching. 1766 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,220 Trump I'll tell you where I was January 6. 1767 01:37:27,220 --> 01:37:27,970 Where were you. 1768 01:37:27,970 --> 01:37:29,970 So you want to listen, man. 1769 01:37:29,970 --> 01:37:32,615 Sam seriously, can you say what it is. 1770 01:37:32,615 --> 01:37:35,340 1771 01:37:35,340 --> 01:37:37,680 So you want me to ask the HbA1c, the home 1772 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:41,190 builders association, what they thought about this immigration. 1773 01:37:41,190 --> 01:37:43,090 I can tell you they don't support it. 1774 01:37:43,090 --> 01:37:45,810 I could tell you a lot of folks that take American jobs 1775 01:37:45,810 --> 01:37:48,520 and hire illegal immigrants aren't going to support this. 1776 01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,230 But you want to ask the hba? 1777 01:37:50,230 --> 01:37:50,920 I'll tell you what. 1778 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,330 I'm going to take a restroom break. 1779 01:37:52,330 --> 01:37:53,950 And when you guys are ready to vote, 1780 01:37:53,950 --> 01:37:55,330 I've said all I'm going to say. 1781 01:37:55,330 --> 01:37:58,890 I'm not going to partake with this little Monkey Business, 1782 01:37:58,890 --> 01:38:01,000 of how he runs a meeting. 1783 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,550 And by the way, this is the guy that's 1784 01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:07,750 going to be our chairman in July because he's the vice chair. 1785 01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:10,500 Is this the kind of crap we're going to deal with. 1786 01:38:10,500 --> 01:38:12,250 I'm telling you, I'm taking a restroom break. 1787 01:38:12,250 --> 01:38:18,870 When you guys are ready to vote, I'll come back to you. 1788 01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:21,630 Commissioner Eddington. 1789 01:38:21,630 --> 01:38:26,490 Mr Ryan, I want to thank you for what you said about 98 1790 01:38:26,490 --> 01:38:28,440 working with the military and stuff. 1791 01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:33,150 I have worked with Eglin, Herbert about the connector 1792 01:38:33,150 --> 01:38:35,470 ever since I've been on this board, 1793 01:38:35,470 --> 01:38:38,580 still working with these people. 1794 01:38:38,580 --> 01:38:41,040 I'm not against these people coming in as long 1795 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,520 as they come in legal. 1796 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,220 That's the right thing to a matter of fact, 1797 01:38:45,220 --> 01:38:49,660 I got two in my house every day taking care of my grandson. 1798 01:38:49,660 --> 01:38:50,980 They are doing the right thing. 1799 01:38:50,980 --> 01:38:54,190 They are applied for American citizenship. 1800 01:38:54,190 --> 01:38:55,510 They're doing the paperwork. 1801 01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:57,810 They're doing great. 1802 01:38:57,810 --> 01:38:58,990 I have a problem with that. 1803 01:38:58,990 --> 01:39:00,660 No, I do not. 1804 01:39:00,660 --> 01:39:05,370 I'd do anything for these two ladies today. 1805 01:39:05,370 --> 01:39:07,750 And I have done some stuff for one of them. 1806 01:39:07,750 --> 01:39:08,580 Last week. 1807 01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:10,290 She needed some help. 1808 01:39:10,290 --> 01:39:12,300 I was there. 1809 01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:15,150 I took my truck and we moved a lady. 1810 01:39:15,150 --> 01:39:18,300 That's what it should be. 1811 01:39:18,300 --> 01:39:22,150 I don't look at color, race, nothing. 1812 01:39:22,150 --> 01:39:27,090 I have got friends from ever all over this United States 1813 01:39:27,090 --> 01:39:28,240 and out of this country. 1814 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,300 I've got some friends. 1815 01:39:30,300 --> 01:39:31,660 Would I turn on them. 1816 01:39:31,660 --> 01:39:34,440 No and I don't think they would turn on me. 1817 01:39:34,440 --> 01:39:36,230 You talk about the Democrats. 1818 01:39:36,230 --> 01:39:39,470 As I've told you before, my parents were Democrats. 1819 01:39:39,470 --> 01:39:41,710 I voted Democrat the first time. 1820 01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:43,340 I am a Republican now. 1821 01:39:43,340 --> 01:39:46,460 My dad got mad at me, didn't speak to me for a long time. 1822 01:39:46,460 --> 01:39:48,610 But we got he got over it. 1823 01:39:48,610 --> 01:39:52,250 We got good people on every side. 1824 01:39:52,250 --> 01:39:54,220 We got bad people. 1825 01:39:54,220 --> 01:39:56,990 We just got to work together and quit talking about it. 1826 01:39:56,990 --> 01:40:00,320 We want to not let this one come into this state. 1827 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,140 We don't want these here, this County. 1828 01:40:03,140 --> 01:40:07,180 We should be letting the state and federal people handle 1829 01:40:07,180 --> 01:40:09,320 that stuff, not the County. 1830 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,090 That's state and federal. 1831 01:40:11,090 --> 01:40:13,100 I read all of it. 1832 01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:15,340 Believe me, I've read it. 1833 01:40:15,340 --> 01:40:18,770 James, me and you friends, I like everybody on this board. 1834 01:40:18,770 --> 01:40:23,120 But I will not vote for that because we. 1835 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:27,640 You don't know who's the bad ones coming in. 1836 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,430 Well, you don't know if they might be illegal, 1837 01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:34,250 but they might be here trying to get citizenship. 1838 01:40:34,250 --> 01:40:35,510 We don't James. 1839 01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:39,720 We really don't know because you've 1840 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,010 got to give them a change. 1841 01:40:41,010 --> 01:40:42,690 They are some bad people, believe 1842 01:40:42,690 --> 01:40:44,880 me, coming across that border. 1843 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,560 No doubt about it. 1844 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,890 Drug addicts, drug pushers, people 1845 01:40:49,890 --> 01:40:53,820 getting kids doing stuff they shouldn't be doing with kids. 1846 01:40:53,820 --> 01:40:55,750 I got a grandson in a wheelchair. 1847 01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:59,610 That And these ladies takes care of my grandson 1848 01:40:59,610 --> 01:41:01,740 like you wouldn't believe. 1849 01:41:01,740 --> 01:41:03,520 They are not from the United States, 1850 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,580 but they want to be because it's a better 1851 01:41:05,580 --> 01:41:11,260 place to be because that's what it's a free country here. 1852 01:41:11,260 --> 01:41:14,040 And we are giving them the right to come here and live 1853 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:18,340 a good life in the United States, here in Santa Rosa, 1854 01:41:18,340 --> 01:41:19,350 everywhere. 1855 01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:21,640 But James, please don't push it. 1856 01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,790 Let's hold off and let the state and the federal people do this. 1857 01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:25,570 Please, sir. 1858 01:41:25,570 --> 01:41:31,580 1859 01:41:31,580 --> 01:41:33,410 All right, Commissioner. 1860 01:41:33,410 --> 01:41:34,200 Thank you. 1861 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:35,035 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 1862 01:41:35,035 --> 01:41:37,670 1863 01:41:37,670 --> 01:41:40,070 I said it and I said it again. 1864 01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:43,370 I believe this is what the people of Santa Rosa County 1865 01:41:43,370 --> 01:41:45,330 want. 1866 01:41:45,330 --> 01:41:52,410 This is a clear, absolute 100% majority of Santa Rosa counties 1867 01:41:52,410 --> 01:41:54,930 wants this. 1868 01:41:54,930 --> 01:41:58,290 A resolution declaring that Santa Rosa County, Florida, does 1869 01:41:58,290 --> 01:42:00,215 not welcome illegal aliens. 1870 01:42:00,215 --> 01:42:03,850 1871 01:42:03,850 --> 01:42:06,700 It's plain as day. 1872 01:42:06,700 --> 01:42:07,960 Think about. 1873 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:09,730 It's clear. 1874 01:42:09,730 --> 01:42:14,940 And what I would like to say is it's time to take a vote, 1875 01:42:14,940 --> 01:42:16,640 I can tell you. 1876 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,450 The citizens will know about this resolution, what it says. 1877 01:42:20,450 --> 01:42:23,060 The citizens will know how we vote. 1878 01:42:23,060 --> 01:42:27,000 And I think it will be a very important issue. 1879 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,710 So I absolutely want to show the citizens of Santa Rosa County 1880 01:42:30,710 --> 01:42:36,740 that Santa Rosa County cares and that they truly. 1881 01:42:36,740 --> 01:42:40,220 Are against illegal immigration, but we 1882 01:42:40,220 --> 01:42:43,110 also support legal immigration. 1883 01:42:43,110 --> 01:42:48,500 So I'm going to make a motion to approve asking for a second. 1884 01:42:48,500 --> 01:42:51,620 Yeah Thank you. 1885 01:42:51,620 --> 01:42:54,300 I know I've lost a little weight recently, guys, 1886 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:55,560 but I'm still sitting here. 1887 01:42:55,560 --> 01:43:01,070 I still like the opportunity to speak as one of five. 1888 01:43:01,070 --> 01:43:03,560 First of all, I'll try to keep my train of thought 1889 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,120 here from the bottom of my heart. 1890 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,780 I want to Thank Commissioner Eddington and Commissioner 1891 01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:10,310 Colton, obviously. 1892 01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:11,220 Commissioner Wright. 1893 01:43:11,220 --> 01:43:13,020 I'm sorry, I actually wrote ray and Colton, 1894 01:43:13,020 --> 01:43:14,520 but I'm trying to be respectful here. 1895 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,070 Commissioner Eddington and Commissioner Wright 1896 01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:18,600 for your work on Highway 98. 1897 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,750 As you all have mentioned, that in our thoughts and prayers 1898 01:43:20,750 --> 01:43:24,630 are with those families that have suffered that tragedy. 1899 01:43:24,630 --> 01:43:28,280 We also are extremely thankful for the work that the men 1900 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,390 and women of our United States Air Force, 1901 01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:33,860 specifically Hurlburt Field and Eglin and the leadership, as 1902 01:43:33,860 --> 01:43:39,150 well as our state delegation and Congressman Matt 1903 01:43:39,150 --> 01:43:41,700 Gaetz and meetings that I know myself 1904 01:43:41,700 --> 01:43:44,730 and Commissioner Wright have attended about the highway 98 1905 01:43:44,730 --> 01:43:45,550 alternate route. 1906 01:43:45,550 --> 01:43:48,010 So I do appreciate you all stepping on that, 1907 01:43:48,010 --> 01:43:49,200 touching on that, and I appreciate 1908 01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,500 your hard work on that. 1909 01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:56,330 And I also want to make a comment because this is actually 1910 01:43:56,330 --> 01:44:01,230 an issue that early on in the year that I had 1911 01:44:01,230 --> 01:44:03,690 kind of solidified a train of thought 1912 01:44:03,690 --> 01:44:06,060 after gathering information that nobody's 1913 01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:08,400 really touched on today. 1914 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,610 I want to say unequivocally I'm thankful for the instrumental 1915 01:44:11,610 --> 01:44:18,450 role that hundreds of thousands, if not millions of immigrants 1916 01:44:18,450 --> 01:44:20,200 play in our country's economy. 1917 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,190 And especially when you talk about Florida 1918 01:44:23,190 --> 01:44:27,360 and our construction and our agriculture industries. 1919 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:34,300 And that really cannot be overstated, especially if folks, 1920 01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:40,260 that are working in the citrus industries or other 1921 01:44:40,260 --> 01:44:43,110 agriculture things, or especially 1922 01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:45,720 in the construction industry. 1923 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,870 I'm going to give you a little perspective of I 1924 01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:54,210 think I probably share some cross thoughts of all five 1925 01:44:54,210 --> 01:44:56,670 of you gentlemen on the board. 1926 01:44:56,670 --> 01:44:58,480 I absolutely agree. 1927 01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:01,920 And I think everybody on this board and in the audience 1928 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:09,060 would agree with the fact that drug overdoses and deaths are 1929 01:45:09,060 --> 01:45:10,870 at an alarming rate throughout the country, 1930 01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:12,130 especially here in Florida. 1931 01:45:12,130 --> 01:45:15,840 I mean, you've got rapes and murders of young girls 1932 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,800 that you're hearing about on the National news, 1933 01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,860 which seems to be at an unprecedented rate 1934 01:45:19,860 --> 01:45:21,070 in the past few months. 1935 01:45:21,070 --> 01:45:24,360 And, of course, I mean, we're going off of reports that we've 1936 01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:30,850 heard that it is unfortunately seems to be violent crime, 1937 01:45:30,850 --> 01:45:32,910 especially towards younger females 1938 01:45:32,910 --> 01:45:36,120 being highlighted at an alarming rate that's 1939 01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:39,270 occurring from folks that have come across the border 1940 01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:40,440 illegally. 1941 01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:46,960 But I will lay blame at where I see blame 100% 1942 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,250 And that's at the feet of President Joe Biden. 1943 01:45:50,250 --> 01:45:53,340 Quite frankly, President Biden went in office 1944 01:45:53,340 --> 01:45:55,480 and he repealed executive orders. 1945 01:45:55,480 --> 01:45:57,120 And he had no problem doing that, things 1946 01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,130 that were securing the border. 1947 01:45:59,130 --> 01:46:02,920 And I've got a good friend of mine right now. 1948 01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:04,530 He's a Santa Rosa County resident 1949 01:46:04,530 --> 01:46:06,940 and he's a Florida Highway patrolman. 1950 01:46:06,940 --> 01:46:10,770 And he's over at the border right now. 1951 01:46:10,770 --> 01:46:12,750 And I've been able to talk with him on the phone 1952 01:46:12,750 --> 01:46:14,790 as he's been over there in Texas. 1953 01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:18,540 And he shared things that really solidified 1954 01:46:18,540 --> 01:46:23,710 a lot of what I've speculated from watching the news. 1955 01:46:23,710 --> 01:46:26,730 But you never really know until you're either there 1956 01:46:26,730 --> 01:46:28,240 or talk with somebody that's there. 1957 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,660 And even state representative Michelle Salzman 1958 01:46:30,660 --> 01:46:36,330 that recently took a trip down there and the difficult, 1959 01:46:36,330 --> 01:46:39,570 the difficult thread to weave about this issue 1960 01:46:39,570 --> 01:46:42,180 that Commissioner Caulkins has brought up 1961 01:46:42,180 --> 01:46:44,820 and that we're all hearing about on the news every day 1962 01:46:44,820 --> 01:46:51,490 is the fact that it is a tough issue to think. 1963 01:46:51,490 --> 01:46:59,430 Do you vilify the folks coming across the border 1964 01:46:59,430 --> 01:47:02,520 and call them a criminal in circumstances 1965 01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:07,260 where you have federal government, law enforcement 1966 01:47:07,260 --> 01:47:13,920 employees waving them to come placing them in line, 1967 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,360 putting them on air conditioned buses, 1968 01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,760 driving them to processing centers, 1969 01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,620 asking them where they want to go, 1970 01:47:20,620 --> 01:47:23,130 and then providing them with bus tickets or in some cases 1971 01:47:23,130 --> 01:47:27,090 plane tickets and dispersing them throughout the country. 1972 01:47:27,090 --> 01:47:29,970 I've shared with my wife this is something where I said months 1973 01:47:29,970 --> 01:47:31,360 ago, I actually had prayed. 1974 01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,330 I said, God, please soften my heart 1975 01:47:33,330 --> 01:47:36,010 and help me not to feel bitter or angered. 1976 01:47:36,010 --> 01:47:37,160 Towards people that are doing that 1977 01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,860 because again, as I will say, that blame 1978 01:47:39,860 --> 01:47:41,470 is on President Joe Biden. 1979 01:47:41,470 --> 01:47:49,100 It's one thing when you scale a wall or tunnel under a barrier 1980 01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:52,530 or try to evade law enforcement. 1981 01:47:52,530 --> 01:47:56,210 But when you have federal law enforcement and this 1982 01:47:56,210 --> 01:47:59,810 is from talking with my friend that's in Texas right now. 1983 01:47:59,810 --> 01:48:02,720 When you have federal law enforcement officers waving 1984 01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:07,190 people across the border and you think someone's 1985 01:48:07,190 --> 01:48:11,210 trying to get to a place where they can provide 1986 01:48:11,210 --> 01:48:12,920 better for their family. 1987 01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:14,920 How do you criminalize that. 1988 01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,270 How do you even find fault in that. 1989 01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:21,860 I know that if I thought there was a better opportunity for me 1990 01:48:21,860 --> 01:48:26,570 and my children and my wife, somewhere, I 100% 1991 01:48:26,570 --> 01:48:29,250 would do things that I could to improve that. 1992 01:48:29,250 --> 01:48:34,670 And the fact of the matter is, it's kind of like speeding. 1993 01:48:34,670 --> 01:48:38,610 Somebody mentioned the speed limit earlier. 1994 01:48:38,610 --> 01:48:43,890 If you have a speed limit of 35 and you drive down the road 1995 01:48:43,890 --> 01:48:45,760 and you see a deputy part there and you say, 1996 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:50,490 hey, speed limit is 35, but is it OK if I go 45. 1997 01:48:50,490 --> 01:48:54,430 And the deputy says, absolutely, it's OK, you can go 45. 1998 01:48:54,430 --> 01:48:57,780 I know the speed limit says 35, but you can go 45 1999 01:48:57,780 --> 01:48:59,170 and you drive 45. 2000 01:48:59,170 --> 01:49:01,560 Does that make you a criminal or are you following what 2001 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:02,890 the law enforcement told you. 2002 01:49:02,890 --> 01:49:06,600 And I think that is where it becomes 2003 01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:11,320 a difficult situation to navigate because quite frankly. 2004 01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,170 And I think our Florida Highway patrolman, 2005 01:49:14,170 --> 01:49:15,970 I think our Texas National Guard, 2006 01:49:15,970 --> 01:49:21,010 I think our governor for trying to support Greg Abbott in this, 2007 01:49:21,010 --> 01:49:22,720 it's not happening where they're at, 2008 01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,700 but they can't control federal law enforcement. 2009 01:49:24,700 --> 01:49:26,230 And again, that's where I say it. 2010 01:49:26,230 --> 01:49:29,620 I place the blame solely at the feet of our current president, 2011 01:49:29,620 --> 01:49:30,490 Joe Biden. 2012 01:49:30,490 --> 01:49:34,570 I do not condone illegal immigration. 2013 01:49:34,570 --> 01:49:36,870 And I don't condone the federal government 2014 01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:39,850 not only ignoring the immigration laws, 2015 01:49:39,850 --> 01:49:43,140 but actively undermining them. 2016 01:49:43,140 --> 01:49:45,660 And that is where I see the problem 2017 01:49:45,660 --> 01:49:51,030 more so than the majority of folks that are coming across 2018 01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:53,460 that probably I think we could accurately say 2019 01:49:53,460 --> 01:49:57,930 don't necessarily engage in criminal behavior, especially 2020 01:49:57,930 --> 01:49:59,320 violent criminal behavior. 2021 01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:03,900 But I will say that. 2022 01:50:03,900 --> 01:50:05,380 You can't. 2023 01:50:05,380 --> 01:50:09,750 You cannot ignore the fact that even right here in Santa Rosa 2024 01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:18,150 County, as of last week, we have had a significant rise 2025 01:50:18,150 --> 01:50:21,360 of the number of drug related overdoses 2026 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,140 and Meth that's happening with this fentanyl. 2027 01:50:23,140 --> 01:50:24,790 And it's been directly linked. 2028 01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:27,090 I mean, even here at a local level, 2029 01:50:27,090 --> 01:50:29,380 through cooperation with federal agencies, 2030 01:50:29,380 --> 01:50:33,000 it's been directly linked to fentanyl and other drugs 2031 01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,020 coming across the Southern border. 2032 01:50:35,020 --> 01:50:38,770 And so Yes, it is a major issue. 2033 01:50:38,770 --> 01:50:42,250 Just like Commissioner right said what. 2034 01:50:42,250 --> 01:50:44,230 I'm proud of the fact that in eight years, 2035 01:50:44,230 --> 01:50:45,780 every year we've been able to increase 2036 01:50:45,780 --> 01:50:47,880 our Sheriff's budgets to where he can combat 2037 01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,720 crime and provide safety. 2038 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,440 But even especially today, we're going to have a budget hearing 2039 01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:55,560 to where the proposal is going to be to fund almost 2040 01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,830 another $9.5 million to our Sheriff's Office 2041 01:50:58,830 --> 01:51:03,350 so that he can have the budget to not only have the personnel, 2042 01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:05,500 but the equipment that he needs to help 2043 01:51:05,500 --> 01:51:07,640 fight the mess happening. 2044 01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:10,810 And even if you talk with the Sheriff, 2045 01:51:10,810 --> 01:51:14,780 things like the human trafficking are extremely hard. 2046 01:51:14,780 --> 01:51:16,070 But you've heard Commissioner right. 2047 01:51:16,070 --> 01:51:19,310 For years has actually he's been an advocate against that. 2048 01:51:19,310 --> 01:51:24,370 He's even talked about some of these, stay open all night 2049 01:51:24,370 --> 01:51:26,030 massage parlors and different things. 2050 01:51:26,030 --> 01:51:30,160 So I have zero doubt that the men on this board 2051 01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:32,570 share the heart of wanting to stop this. 2052 01:51:32,570 --> 01:51:35,510 And I know when I was a Sheriff's deputy, 2053 01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:38,600 it wasn't happening near at the volume that it's happening now. 2054 01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:40,660 But it definitely created a problem 2055 01:51:40,660 --> 01:51:43,270 when you would deal with folks and they 2056 01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:47,240 would have whatever fabricated ID that they put together. 2057 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:51,820 And you have no way of acknowledging who this person 2058 01:51:51,820 --> 01:51:52,790 is you're dealing with. 2059 01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:54,520 I can personally say I have arrested 2060 01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:58,730 people that bonded out of jail. 2061 01:51:58,730 --> 01:52:02,170 And then the next day when the IFUs hit came back 2062 01:52:02,170 --> 01:52:04,780 on their fingerprints, they were wanted for violent crimes 2063 01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:06,310 in other states. 2064 01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:08,000 But we didn't know that at the time. 2065 01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:09,650 And we had no way to prove who they were. 2066 01:52:09,650 --> 01:52:14,180 I mean, it is lunacy in the United States of America, 2067 01:52:14,180 --> 01:52:17,350 arguably the most technologically advanced country 2068 01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:24,160 in the world, that as a citizen that's born here to do almost 2069 01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,560 anything, you've got to provide as an adult documentation, 2070 01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,310 a birth certificate to get a driver's license and Social 2071 01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:33,520 Security number and sign up for selective service 2072 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,770 and all these other things. 2073 01:52:35,770 --> 01:52:40,610 But the federal government under the current president, 2074 01:52:40,610 --> 01:52:42,910 can have people walk across the border 2075 01:52:42,910 --> 01:52:44,680 and tell you whatever name and identity 2076 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:48,220 that they want to assume, then without any documentation 2077 01:52:48,220 --> 01:52:51,830 to know if that's true, they can go in here right now. 2078 01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:55,030 And Thank you to our governor and our state delegation that's 2079 01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:57,880 working with the Florida Sheriffs Association 2080 01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:02,620 to try to end the loophole that for me, born right here in Santa 2081 01:53:02,620 --> 01:53:07,000 Rosa County 40 years ago, to go get a tag for a vehicle 2082 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,700 that I purchased, I've got to provide not only my driver's 2083 01:53:09,700 --> 01:53:12,140 license, but I have to provide proof of insurance, 2084 01:53:12,140 --> 01:53:16,590 and that's to protect all the motorists on the road. 2085 01:53:16,590 --> 01:53:20,320 But yet you can have someone waved across the border. 2086 01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:23,760 They go to a processing center, get a passport 2087 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,880 and whatever name that they decide to assume because there's 2088 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,800 no birth certificate required like there are 2089 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,300 for naturally born citizens. 2090 01:53:31,300 --> 01:53:33,600 And then they can come out here and get a tag to a vehicle 2091 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:34,750 and go out here and drive. 2092 01:53:34,750 --> 01:53:36,700 It's happening right here in Santa Rosa County. 2093 01:53:36,700 --> 01:53:39,130 I think the Sheriff's Office said as of last week, 2094 01:53:39,130 --> 01:53:42,540 if I remember right, at least 100 cases or more 2095 01:53:42,540 --> 01:53:45,250 of out here driving without a license, 2096 01:53:45,250 --> 01:53:47,010 I hear getting in wrecks. 2097 01:53:47,010 --> 01:53:49,560 And then our citizens are victimized 2098 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,190 because they didn't have insurance, 2099 01:53:51,190 --> 01:53:52,300 but it wasn't required. 2100 01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:54,270 It's not the tax collector's fault. 2101 01:53:54,270 --> 01:53:57,960 It's a breakdown in state law. 2102 01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:02,080 My last point, and I'll say this, I really again, 2103 01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:04,980 I think I know all you gentlemen enough to know that I 2104 01:54:04,980 --> 01:54:07,120 share thoughts with you all. 2105 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,600 And I will. 2106 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:11,370 This is the moment where I'll say 2107 01:54:11,370 --> 01:54:16,060 I'm going to try to lean into maybe a little bit of longevity 2108 01:54:16,060 --> 01:54:18,987 and on the board and collegiate to. 2109 01:54:18,987 --> 01:54:22,110 2110 01:54:22,110 --> 01:54:23,680 With these comments. 2111 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,610 I know the board has passed ceremonial resolutions 2112 01:54:26,610 --> 01:54:34,350 in the past and I 100% support sending a strong message 2113 01:54:34,350 --> 01:54:37,870 to President Joe Biden and the elected officials in Washington, 2114 01:54:37,870 --> 01:54:42,580 DC, that says this cannot continue. 2115 01:54:42,580 --> 01:54:44,650 This is breaking the back of our country. 2116 01:54:44,650 --> 01:54:48,250 It's breaking the back of the resources. 2117 01:54:48,250 --> 01:54:49,660 And we're talking about law enforcement. 2118 01:54:49,660 --> 01:54:53,460 But folks, let's not forget, if you haven't traveled 2119 01:54:53,460 --> 01:54:56,110 to any major Metropolitan area recently, 2120 01:54:56,110 --> 01:54:58,840 you can ask a friend who has or turn on the news. 2121 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,490 These cities are being overwhelmed. 2122 01:55:02,490 --> 01:55:05,500 It's not a Republican or Democrat issue anymore. 2123 01:55:05,500 --> 01:55:08,700 It's the fact that you're having thousands of people 2124 01:55:08,700 --> 01:55:12,000 show up in the Metropolitan areas with 0 2125 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:17,130 means to support themselves and depending on local governments 2126 01:55:17,130 --> 01:55:19,050 to take care of them. 2127 01:55:19,050 --> 01:55:22,280 The fact is Florida right now, I think, 2128 01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:25,100 is number two in the whole country. 2129 01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:27,840 As far as a state that's suffering from this. 2130 01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,120 We are seeing things here locally. 2131 01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,060 And I know every one of you gentlemen have probably 2132 01:55:32,060 --> 01:55:34,490 had an opportunity to talk with the Sheriff's Office 2133 01:55:34,490 --> 01:55:37,910 or at least listen to interviews that chief TIFF have done 2134 01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:39,210 did last week. 2135 01:55:39,210 --> 01:55:41,820 It is a problem right here in Santa Rosa County. 2136 01:55:41,820 --> 01:55:47,180 But in an attempt to try to unify this board as well 2137 01:55:47,180 --> 01:55:50,690 as place blame directly, where I feel like blame 2138 01:55:50,690 --> 01:55:52,610 should be placed. 2139 01:55:52,610 --> 01:55:56,460 I would because I don't like to see a divided board. 2140 01:55:56,460 --> 01:56:01,130 I don't like to see men that I character wise on this board 2141 01:56:01,130 --> 01:56:05,240 possibly put into a put into a category 2142 01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,790 that I don't think maybe accurately identifies them. 2143 01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:12,020 But I do think that the citizens it's kind of like I've got 2144 01:56:12,020 --> 01:56:13,550 a guy right now in my district, we're 2145 01:56:13,550 --> 01:56:16,310 trying to work with him, getting his internet back 2146 01:56:16,310 --> 01:56:18,710 up after this storm from AT&T, and he 2147 01:56:18,710 --> 01:56:20,720 knows it's not my wheelhouse. 2148 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:23,280 He says, I know there's nothing you can do, 2149 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,220 but I know you have a stronger voice than I have. 2150 01:56:26,220 --> 01:56:27,450 Can you please help work on this. 2151 01:56:27,450 --> 01:56:30,840 And I'll say, even the folks at FPL, 2152 01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,430 because of those connections and that opportunity 2153 01:56:34,430 --> 01:56:36,810 I have to serve as an elected leader. 2154 01:56:36,810 --> 01:56:40,130 We definitely got quicker results from him than for him 2155 01:56:40,130 --> 01:56:41,220 than he was getting himself. 2156 01:56:41,220 --> 01:56:44,580 So in that effort to try to help, what I have, 2157 01:56:44,580 --> 01:56:48,010 undoubtedly I know that every man on this board, I 2158 01:56:48,010 --> 01:56:50,690 know that probably every person in this audience 2159 01:56:50,690 --> 01:56:53,750 and the overwhelming majority of people in the community 2160 01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:55,650 understand that it's a problem. 2161 01:56:55,650 --> 01:56:58,490 I would propose that we could do a slight modification of 2162 01:56:58,490 --> 01:57:00,890 the language to the resolution. 2163 01:57:00,890 --> 01:57:04,190 And I've and I've made a few minor critiques 2164 01:57:04,190 --> 01:57:07,790 that I think after hearing the robust comments that I make 2165 01:57:07,790 --> 01:57:09,300 would make sense. 2166 01:57:09,300 --> 01:57:13,220 And then hopefully we could pass it and join other elected 2167 01:57:13,220 --> 01:57:16,190 officials all throughout this country that have already called 2168 01:57:16,190 --> 01:57:19,140 for President Joe Biden to secure the Southern border, 2169 01:57:19,140 --> 01:57:21,350 stop illegal immigration that's leading 2170 01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:24,680 to the rise in violent crime and drug deaths in our country, 2171 01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,660 and quite frankly, negatively affecting us right 2172 01:57:27,660 --> 01:57:28,870 here in the state of Florida. 2173 01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:31,300 And I think it goes back to as I say, 2174 01:57:31,300 --> 01:57:33,750 those ceremonial resolutions, which we have passed 2175 01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:35,500 a lot of meaningful ones. 2176 01:57:35,500 --> 01:57:39,120 Even when I was on the board with Commissioner Salter, 2177 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:40,920 Commissioner Hawkins predecessor made 2178 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:43,380 me think of that because sometimes it's just 2179 01:57:43,380 --> 01:57:46,560 to send that message of, hey, I know this may not 2180 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,220 be directly in my wheelhouse. 2181 01:57:48,220 --> 01:57:49,780 It is in our wheelhouse, obviously, 2182 01:57:49,780 --> 01:57:51,910 to approve the Sheriff's proposed budget, 2183 01:57:51,910 --> 01:57:54,340 a 9 and 1/2 million dollar increase later today. 2184 01:57:54,340 --> 01:57:59,830 But if nothing else, to join with the many, 2185 01:57:59,830 --> 01:58:03,330 many other local and state elected leaders 2186 01:58:03,330 --> 01:58:07,860 throughout this entire country that are calling for Washington 2187 01:58:07,860 --> 01:58:09,400 to do something to stop this. 2188 01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:13,170 And they 100% can do something to stop this. 2189 01:58:13,170 --> 01:58:17,160 My suggestion of trying to unify the board and send that signal 2190 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:20,440 would be, I think if we made the modification of wording. 2191 01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:24,900 Commissioner Calkins, if you would consider where it to where 2192 01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:27,600 it could read a resolution declaring that Santa Rosa 2193 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:32,910 County, Florida, does not support illegal immigration 2194 01:58:32,910 --> 01:58:36,960 because again, the tough part, and I understand 2195 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:38,590 might give me a second to finish. 2196 01:58:38,590 --> 01:58:41,040 I understand the hearts of what you're saying. 2197 01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:44,130 There's undoubtedly we have people here right now in Santa 2198 01:58:44,130 --> 01:58:46,290 Rosa County that are contributing 2199 01:58:46,290 --> 01:58:48,940 to our economy every day and that aren't committing crime, 2200 01:58:48,940 --> 01:58:52,270 but they're not here through the legal Avenue. 2201 01:58:52,270 --> 01:58:56,630 But I can tell you, through being around construction sites. 2202 01:58:56,630 --> 01:58:58,910 These men will share the same stories that I 2203 01:58:58,910 --> 01:59:00,060 just told you about my friend. 2204 01:59:00,060 --> 01:59:03,150 That's a highway patrolman that in their mind, 2205 01:59:03,150 --> 01:59:05,340 it wasn't even really criminal in their mind. 2206 01:59:05,340 --> 01:59:08,590 It was the federal government inviting them in. 2207 01:59:08,590 --> 01:59:10,640 I mean, they transported them here 2208 01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:12,180 on behalf of the tax dollars. 2209 01:59:12,180 --> 01:59:17,360 But I think if that language clarifies that we don't support 2210 01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,480 illegal immigration, and then if we modified section 1 to say 2211 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:25,680 Santa Rosa County does not support illegal immigration, 2212 01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,060 the rest of the wording would be fine. 2213 01:59:28,060 --> 01:59:31,740 It's really it's changing the name of welcome to support. 2214 01:59:31,740 --> 01:59:34,860 But I think that words do have meaning. 2215 01:59:34,860 --> 01:59:37,860 And I think that I know sometimes I get long winded, 2216 01:59:37,860 --> 01:59:41,840 but I'm really trying to make a stand for. 2217 01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,570 Like I said, I don't want to see any of my fellow board members 2218 01:59:44,570 --> 01:59:46,610 try to be compartmentalized into something 2219 01:59:46,610 --> 01:59:49,670 that I know they those are not that's not 2220 01:59:49,670 --> 01:59:52,860 how I characterize these fine gentlemen that I serve beside. 2221 01:59:52,860 --> 01:59:56,580 And we could add a section number 4 after Section 3 2222 01:59:56,580 --> 01:59:57,730 to some effect. 2223 01:59:57,730 --> 02:00:00,330 But the notes I took as I listened to you gentlemen just 2224 02:00:00,330 --> 02:00:03,450 said, the Board of County Commissioners 2225 02:00:03,450 --> 02:00:07,920 encourages President Biden to use all available options 2226 02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:10,380 to immediately secure the Southern border 2227 02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:14,580 and stop facilitating the relocation of illegal immigrants 2228 02:00:14,580 --> 02:00:16,270 throughout the United States of America. 2229 02:00:16,270 --> 02:00:18,730 Because I think that is something we can all agree on, 2230 02:00:18,730 --> 02:00:21,660 is that's the last thing that we want ourselves 2231 02:00:21,660 --> 02:00:24,690 or our children as they won doubtedly 2232 02:00:24,690 --> 02:00:26,830 have to tackle the rising debt. 2233 02:00:26,830 --> 02:00:29,490 To think that we're paying to transport folks 2234 02:00:29,490 --> 02:00:33,210 to cities that are begging for help if you 2235 02:00:33,210 --> 02:00:34,540 haven't seen it on the news. 2236 02:00:34,540 --> 02:00:36,730 But that would be my suggestion. 2237 02:00:36,730 --> 02:00:41,380 I believe in that intent that I describe. 2238 02:00:41,380 --> 02:00:43,650 I believe I think that every you've already 2239 02:00:43,650 --> 02:00:45,550 heard these gentlemen and how they feel. 2240 02:00:45,550 --> 02:00:47,110 We've heard from citizens. 2241 02:00:47,110 --> 02:00:49,990 And I think everybody in this room, 2242 02:00:49,990 --> 02:00:51,700 probably even the folks that spoke, would say, 2243 02:00:51,700 --> 02:00:56,100 Yes, we don't agree with criminals 2244 02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:59,160 and we don't but we don't agree with what President 2245 02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:01,840 Biden is allowing to happen. 2246 02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,010 That is at the root of that. 2247 02:01:03,010 --> 02:01:08,370 And instead of doing anything that could disparage 2248 02:01:08,370 --> 02:01:14,250 and otherwise, fantastic, hardworking person 2249 02:01:14,250 --> 02:01:17,340 that's right here in our community. 2250 02:01:17,340 --> 02:01:20,130 And that's why I shared that robust background 2251 02:01:20,130 --> 02:01:22,930 because like I said, I've got a friend out there on the border. 2252 02:01:22,930 --> 02:01:25,660 And I just there's no other way I to look at it. 2253 02:01:25,660 --> 02:01:28,650 So I don't know if you would entertain 2254 02:01:28,650 --> 02:01:30,370 making those few modifications. 2255 02:01:30,370 --> 02:01:32,020 I think it sends the same message. 2256 02:01:32,020 --> 02:01:34,980 I think it sends actually a stronger message 2257 02:01:34,980 --> 02:01:39,240 because if we put that in there, we could 100% send this 2258 02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,730 to our federal elected leaders. 2259 02:01:42,730 --> 02:01:46,150 I know that Senator Scott, from listening to him, 2260 02:01:46,150 --> 02:01:48,570 I think would be glad to take this 2261 02:01:48,570 --> 02:01:50,650 in his office and Congressman Gaetz, 2262 02:01:50,650 --> 02:01:55,930 and we could send it 100% to the White House 2263 02:01:55,930 --> 02:01:58,650 because again, it's one of those where if we can join 2264 02:01:58,650 --> 02:02:01,240 with other elected officials around the country, 2265 02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:04,020 we can become that echo chamber that maybe is loud enough 2266 02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:06,150 that either he'll fix it or that the folks will 2267 02:02:06,150 --> 02:02:07,320 turn out in November and we'll have 2268 02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:08,440 a change in the White House. 2269 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:10,620 But that would be my suggestion. 2270 02:02:10,620 --> 02:02:13,950 Commissioner chairman commissioner Parker. 2271 02:02:13,950 --> 02:02:14,950 Well, wait a minute. 2272 02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:17,160 I mean, let me get Commissioner Smith. 2273 02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:22,120 Commissioner Smith, I appreciate your attempt to do this, 2274 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,320 but I'm going to tell you right now, 2275 02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:25,380 there's no way I'm for any of this 2276 02:02:25,380 --> 02:02:27,370 because this is a half assed. 2277 02:02:27,370 --> 02:02:28,330 And I'm sorry. 2278 02:02:28,330 --> 02:02:29,910 I'm going to have to get my wife hitting 2279 02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:31,630 me on the head for saying that. 2280 02:02:31,630 --> 02:02:33,260 But this is a half cocked. 2281 02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:35,900 2282 02:02:35,900 --> 02:02:39,900 Resolution put together prior to a mail out. 2283 02:02:39,900 --> 02:02:41,710 And this is all it is. 2284 02:02:41,710 --> 02:02:43,040 I'm going to call it out for what 2285 02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,040 it is I'm against how Joe Biden's 2286 02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,370 handling this 100% We all are. 2287 02:02:49,370 --> 02:02:52,230 But for him to get up here and start his shouting and stuff, 2288 02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:53,280 what he's done. 2289 02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,410 No, I say we throw this out. 2290 02:02:55,410 --> 02:02:56,530 Go to the next item. 2291 02:02:56,530 --> 02:02:59,310 2292 02:02:59,310 --> 02:03:03,180 Share this, I. Let me get Commissioner right. 2293 02:03:03,180 --> 02:03:05,950 Mr Chairman, I circle back since it's your resolution. 2294 02:03:05,950 --> 02:03:11,220 So I appreciate your attempt to try to make sure 2295 02:03:11,220 --> 02:03:14,400 that I and others don't get painted into a corner 2296 02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,100 by some folks. 2297 02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:18,730 I think that damage is already done, 2298 02:03:18,730 --> 02:03:20,520 and I already know that ship is coming 2299 02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:23,100 and those attacks are on their way. 2300 02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:25,010 They were on their way before today. 2301 02:03:25,010 --> 02:03:30,700 2302 02:03:30,700 --> 02:03:32,950 The facts say otherwise, James. 2303 02:03:32,950 --> 02:03:43,730 So what I would 100% support is if you want to work with staff, 2304 02:03:43,730 --> 02:03:48,340 Mr Chairman, to draft a letter and then bring that back 2305 02:03:48,340 --> 02:03:55,370 to the board for us to all sign in unison in solidarity, 2306 02:03:55,370 --> 02:03:58,610 that we think that the president, Joe Biden, 2307 02:03:58,610 --> 02:04:01,420 has done a terrible job and we think 2308 02:04:01,420 --> 02:04:03,800 there are numerous improvements that can be made. 2309 02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:10,780 I will 100% support that and I'll be glad to sign that. 2310 02:04:10,780 --> 02:04:15,640 I just can't be part of this stunt. 2311 02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:17,510 And that's just what it is. 2312 02:04:17,510 --> 02:04:20,300 It's not about what the resolution says. 2313 02:04:20,300 --> 02:04:20,920 It's not. 2314 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:22,960 I just I can't be comfortable just tweaking it 2315 02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:27,040 because all this is an effort for one person 2316 02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,360 to try to make themselves look good 2317 02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:33,170 and to try to make others look bad. 2318 02:04:33,170 --> 02:04:36,030 And he's trying to pigeonhole you into a bad spot. 2319 02:04:36,030 --> 02:04:38,330 He's done it to Commissioner Eddington, to Commissioner Smith 2320 02:04:38,330 --> 02:04:39,980 and to me. 2321 02:04:39,980 --> 02:04:43,180 And it's also an effect to pigeonhole staff. 2322 02:04:43,180 --> 02:04:45,890 2323 02:04:45,890 --> 02:04:48,200 And we've seen what happens in the past 2324 02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:53,360 when people feel bullied into doing something they know based 2325 02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,700 on the history of what's happened for many years, 2326 02:04:56,700 --> 02:04:59,580 that if they don't go along with certain things, 2327 02:04:59,580 --> 02:05:01,920 that they will be stabbed in the back. 2328 02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:04,310 There will be a line of people at the podium 2329 02:05:04,310 --> 02:05:08,040 to demand their firing and their resignation. 2330 02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:09,323 Facebook will go crazy. 2331 02:05:09,323 --> 02:05:12,260 2332 02:05:12,260 --> 02:05:16,190 I wish this board had a more collegiate and professional 2333 02:05:16,190 --> 02:05:18,830 way of doing things. 2334 02:05:18,830 --> 02:05:23,300 And I think generally speaking, we try to do that. 2335 02:05:23,300 --> 02:05:28,610 But time and time again, there are efforts to disrupt 2336 02:05:28,610 --> 02:05:31,010 that and create the chaos. 2337 02:05:31,010 --> 02:05:34,640 And I will not be part of the chaos any longer. 2338 02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:36,350 I cannot do it. 2339 02:05:36,350 --> 02:05:37,980 It's not good for me. 2340 02:05:37,980 --> 02:05:39,720 It's not good for the staff. 2341 02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:41,430 It's not good for everybody else here. 2342 02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:44,900 And it's darn sure not good for them. 2343 02:05:44,900 --> 02:05:49,150 I absolutely support a letter and I will make a motion to. 2344 02:05:49,150 --> 02:05:53,350 2345 02:05:53,350 --> 02:05:54,850 Did I hear a second. 2346 02:05:54,850 --> 02:05:58,360 OK, go ahead, Mr Chairman. 2347 02:05:58,360 --> 02:05:59,810 Let commissioner Collins speak. 2348 02:05:59,810 --> 02:06:02,020 And I know Commissioner Eddington wants to speak. 2349 02:06:02,020 --> 02:06:04,930 I don't think we need to rush to cut 2350 02:06:04,930 --> 02:06:06,400 another one off at this point. 2351 02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:07,310 Got to raise your hand. 2352 02:06:07,310 --> 02:06:07,810 All right. 2353 02:06:07,810 --> 02:06:08,560 So I'm. 2354 02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:11,960 I'm just one vote here. 2355 02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:16,180 But I'm willing to work with the rest of the board. 2356 02:06:16,180 --> 02:06:22,850 And I actually commend Mr Chairman for actually. 2357 02:06:22,850 --> 02:06:28,550 For actually trying to adjust and make this to where some 2358 02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:30,900 of you all may jump on board. 2359 02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:38,570 But there is a clear ideological difference between all 2360 02:06:38,570 --> 02:06:39,570 of us board members. 2361 02:06:39,570 --> 02:06:42,860 There is a clear as day ideology. 2362 02:06:42,860 --> 02:06:46,860 There are some board members here that are to the left. 2363 02:06:46,860 --> 02:06:49,400 And there are some board members that are to the right. 2364 02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:53,210 And it's clear as day because the resolution, the resolution 2365 02:06:53,210 --> 02:06:55,110 speaks for itself. 2366 02:06:55,110 --> 02:06:57,290 It's very simple. 2367 02:06:57,290 --> 02:06:59,250 You vote Yes or you vote no. 2368 02:06:59,250 --> 02:07:00,740 Now, what. 2369 02:07:00,740 --> 02:07:06,380 Chairman Parker did was actually try to make it to where 2370 02:07:06,380 --> 02:07:09,120 we could work together. 2371 02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,870 He's a lot more polite maybe than I 2372 02:07:11,870 --> 02:07:13,410 am with some of these things. 2373 02:07:13,410 --> 02:07:16,273 But that's why we all have to work together and. 2374 02:07:16,273 --> 02:07:18,810 2375 02:07:18,810 --> 02:07:22,390 So I'm going to say that I will. 2376 02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:23,340 I will. 2377 02:07:23,340 --> 02:07:27,120 I had a motion on the floor and I 2378 02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:32,580 will amend my motion to add what Commissioner Parker 2379 02:07:32,580 --> 02:07:36,870 has put in the resolution. 2380 02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:39,780 I think that he really tried. 2381 02:07:39,780 --> 02:07:43,950 To win over another board member. 2382 02:07:43,950 --> 02:07:46,120 And this is your opportunity. 2383 02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,280 I do think this needs to be voted on. 2384 02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:51,570 And it is the board's opportunity 2385 02:07:51,570 --> 02:07:55,590 right now to show that they stand 2386 02:07:55,590 --> 02:07:57,520 against illegal immigration. 2387 02:07:57,520 --> 02:08:02,040 So what Commissioner Parker put on here a resolution declaring. 2388 02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:06,540 The Santa Rosa County, Florida, does not 2389 02:08:06,540 --> 02:08:09,150 support illegal immigration. 2390 02:08:09,150 --> 02:08:11,030 It's very simple. 2391 02:08:11,030 --> 02:08:15,420 It's very and to Commissioner Addington. 2392 02:08:15,420 --> 02:08:17,490 Respectfully, Commissioner Addington. 2393 02:08:17,490 --> 02:08:20,460 It's kind of what I think Commissioner Parker probably 2394 02:08:20,460 --> 02:08:23,940 listened to your verbiage and it's 2395 02:08:23,940 --> 02:08:26,190 kind of what you were saying when you were saying 2396 02:08:26,190 --> 02:08:28,780 your speech on this issue. 2397 02:08:28,780 --> 02:08:30,995 It kind of fit in line with that. 2398 02:08:30,995 --> 02:08:33,680 2399 02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:37,550 I think that this is good and we could 2400 02:08:37,550 --> 02:08:39,100 this is what the citizens want. 2401 02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:41,130 This is truly what the citizens want. 2402 02:08:41,130 --> 02:08:46,100 And I think what Commissioner Parker did was he 2403 02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:50,100 added another section here on. 2404 02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:54,390 President Biden to use all available options to immediately 2405 02:08:54,390 --> 02:08:56,610 secure the Southern border and stop facilitating 2406 02:08:56,610 --> 02:08:58,290 the relocation of illegal immigrants 2407 02:08:58,290 --> 02:08:59,860 throughout the United States of America. 2408 02:08:59,860 --> 02:09:02,120 This is called working together. 2409 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:03,980 This is called trying. 2410 02:09:03,980 --> 02:09:07,790 To uphold the will of the people. 2411 02:09:07,790 --> 02:09:09,360 So I highly recommend. 2412 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:13,360 My motion stands as amended. 2413 02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,820 Asking for a second. 2414 02:09:15,820 --> 02:09:19,490 And then we and then we move to discussion. 2415 02:09:19,490 --> 02:09:25,710 But I highly believe that we need to show the public that. 2416 02:09:25,710 --> 02:09:28,800 This is something that we care about 2417 02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,780 and the public cares about. 2418 02:09:30,780 --> 02:09:34,990 So I knew you were looking to speak a second ago. 2419 02:09:34,990 --> 02:09:37,600 Did you have a comment. 2420 02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:41,800 It puts us in a hardship between all of us. 2421 02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,460 I think we should not vote for that right now. 2422 02:09:45,460 --> 02:09:48,290 Like Mr Wright said, I just work with the staff. 2423 02:09:48,290 --> 02:09:52,510 Let's get the right words put in there because I 2424 02:09:52,510 --> 02:09:57,010 do not feel like all these people is bad people 2425 02:09:57,010 --> 02:09:58,790 and they are not bad. 2426 02:09:58,790 --> 02:10:01,490 We got there's a bunch of good ones. 2427 02:10:01,490 --> 02:10:04,320 And I believe we can work with some of this stuff. 2428 02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:07,960 We just got to really sit down with the staff 2429 02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:11,620 and try to word this stuff correctly and not 2430 02:10:11,620 --> 02:10:14,410 make it look bad on all of us. 2431 02:10:14,410 --> 02:10:18,550 Not going with you or we do go with you, 2432 02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:20,370 but we want to do the right thing. 2433 02:10:20,370 --> 02:10:23,020 Let's all sit down and think about this, how we 2434 02:10:23,020 --> 02:10:24,390 really want to word this stuff. 2435 02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:26,980 2436 02:10:26,980 --> 02:10:29,680 I'll just say this. 2437 02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:31,010 I passed that. 2438 02:10:31,010 --> 02:10:34,000 You can see the changes. 2439 02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:36,950 I can't say anything else that I haven't spoken 2440 02:10:36,950 --> 02:10:38,880 already from the heart on this. 2441 02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:41,470 But I will say. 2442 02:10:41,470 --> 02:10:45,410 As a Santa Rosa County resident and elected official. 2443 02:10:45,410 --> 02:10:48,090 I do. 2444 02:10:48,090 --> 02:10:49,370 I do not want to. 2445 02:10:49,370 --> 02:10:51,030 The reason I tried to write something 2446 02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:55,470 to build some alliance, something that there 2447 02:10:55,470 --> 02:10:57,040 was some palatability towards. 2448 02:10:57,040 --> 02:11:04,660 And I. 100% sympathize with comments that were made and. 2449 02:11:04,660 --> 02:11:07,120 I don't want to send the message either that 2450 02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:10,180 Santa Rosa County couldn't. 2451 02:11:10,180 --> 02:11:12,310 It's almost like we're standing on the train 2452 02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:13,670 track at this moment. 2453 02:11:13,670 --> 02:11:16,910 And that's probably not a good analogy. 2454 02:11:16,910 --> 02:11:20,380 But if it's been put in front of us, I don't want it 2455 02:11:20,380 --> 02:11:25,370 to go down as, hey, we didn't. 2456 02:11:25,370 --> 02:11:30,650 The message of Santa Rosa County didn't support this, I think. 2457 02:11:30,650 --> 02:11:33,590 I acknowledge the heartfelt feelings 2458 02:11:33,590 --> 02:11:35,190 that have been stated today. 2459 02:11:35,190 --> 02:11:40,370 And there's undoubtedly extreme political tension 2460 02:11:40,370 --> 02:11:43,430 between members of this board. 2461 02:11:43,430 --> 02:11:46,490 And that's why I've tried to navigate a thread that I thought 2462 02:11:46,490 --> 02:11:50,770 would be graceful and accurate. 2463 02:11:50,770 --> 02:11:53,650 I hate to send the message to Santa Rosa County 2464 02:11:53,650 --> 02:11:57,870 now that this is in our laps that. 2465 02:11:57,870 --> 02:12:01,510 This is not so I guess, Commissioner. 2466 02:12:01,510 --> 02:12:05,620 I'm kind of asking you because look, 2467 02:12:05,620 --> 02:12:07,020 I'm your I'm your I'm commissioner 2468 02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:07,867 right's biggest advocate. 2469 02:12:07,867 --> 02:12:09,600 I'm going to give me a button that says commissioner 2470 02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,120 rights number one fan. 2471 02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:16,380 He's been an extremely levelheaded. 2472 02:12:16,380 --> 02:12:17,590 Commissioner on the board. 2473 02:12:17,590 --> 02:12:19,210 And I understand everything you said. 2474 02:12:19,210 --> 02:12:20,020 I think that. 2475 02:12:20,020 --> 02:12:22,310 I think that. 2476 02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:26,090 I understand what you're saying. 2477 02:12:26,090 --> 02:12:27,980 I'm just. 2478 02:12:27,980 --> 02:12:29,160 That's one thing I'm looking at. 2479 02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:31,070 I don't know if you would consider looking at this 2480 02:12:31,070 --> 02:12:32,430 or I heard what you said. 2481 02:12:32,430 --> 02:12:37,040 I just kind of hate the message not only here locally, but even 2482 02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:42,770 to our leaders to be that Santa Rosa County couldn't come 2483 02:12:42,770 --> 02:12:44,520 to an agreement on this issue. 2484 02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:45,740 Now that it's in front of us. 2485 02:12:45,740 --> 02:12:47,330 Well, Mr. chairman, what I did not hear 2486 02:12:47,330 --> 02:12:48,600 is I did not hear a second. 2487 02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:51,290 So if I may just make a couple comments. 2488 02:12:51,290 --> 02:12:52,885 I didn't hear a second. 2489 02:12:52,885 --> 02:12:57,250 2490 02:12:57,250 --> 02:12:59,230 What I'm just. 2491 02:12:59,230 --> 02:13:00,850 Are you talking about for discussion. 2492 02:13:00,850 --> 02:13:01,990 He's just wanting to. 2493 02:13:01,990 --> 02:13:02,830 I just can't. 2494 02:13:02,830 --> 02:13:03,890 I can't handle this. 2495 02:13:03,890 --> 02:13:06,960 This talking off the mic like a child. 2496 02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:07,460 It just. 2497 02:13:07,460 --> 02:13:09,500 It's on and on and on and on and on. 2498 02:13:09,500 --> 02:13:12,550 And this is what I'm getting at. 2499 02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:15,790 Obviously, tensions are high, and I'm 2500 02:13:15,790 --> 02:13:17,950 a little fired up this morning. 2501 02:13:17,950 --> 02:13:19,100 More than normal. 2502 02:13:19,100 --> 02:13:27,310 But it's because it's cheap talk. 2503 02:13:27,310 --> 02:13:30,050 You have made an effort, Mr Chairman, 2504 02:13:30,050 --> 02:13:32,270 to try to provide a solution. 2505 02:13:32,270 --> 02:13:36,923 And I 100% understand and support your efforts. 2506 02:13:36,923 --> 02:13:39,490 2507 02:13:39,490 --> 02:13:43,680 Please, James, if you can't shut your mouth. 2508 02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:44,730 Just go ahead and key the mic. 2509 02:13:44,730 --> 02:13:48,050 Every time you're going to say something, just go ahead. 2510 02:13:48,050 --> 02:13:48,895 You might as well. 2511 02:13:48,895 --> 02:13:56,450 2512 02:13:56,450 --> 02:14:03,050 So I can appreciate Commissioner Calkins 2513 02:14:03,050 --> 02:14:08,920 comments about working together and finding a solution. 2514 02:14:08,920 --> 02:14:11,470 I heard him. 2515 02:14:11,470 --> 02:14:16,490 But what I believe in my heart is there empty words. 2516 02:14:16,490 --> 02:14:19,700 And the reason I say that it goes back to my comments 2517 02:14:19,700 --> 02:14:24,230 earlier is things like this get laid in our lap 2518 02:14:24,230 --> 02:14:26,640 time and time and time again. 2519 02:14:26,640 --> 02:14:28,160 And if there was really an effort 2520 02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:31,340 to do something productive and try to work 2521 02:14:31,340 --> 02:14:36,390 together and find a solution. 2522 02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:38,880 And that would have been done with staff 2523 02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:41,280 and worked by communicating through staff 2524 02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:44,310 to commissioners to try to find a solution 2525 02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:47,780 and then bring it to the board. 2526 02:14:47,780 --> 02:14:50,870 Not throw something out on a Thursday afternoon. 2527 02:14:50,870 --> 02:14:52,670 Here's the agenda that's published and put 2528 02:14:52,670 --> 02:14:55,070 everyone on their heels. 2529 02:14:55,070 --> 02:14:58,260 And then have everyone spend all weekend going geez, 2530 02:14:58,260 --> 02:14:59,870 I wonder what's going to happen Monday. 2531 02:14:59,870 --> 02:15:01,560 It's going to be chaos in the boardroom. 2532 02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:08,180 We have a two page agenda, two pages of actual County business, 2533 02:15:08,180 --> 02:15:09,690 but a commissioner item on the front, 2534 02:15:09,690 --> 02:15:11,450 it's going to dominate the whole day. 2535 02:15:11,450 --> 02:15:13,140 It's going to dominate the news cycle. 2536 02:15:13,140 --> 02:15:14,790 It's going to dominate Facebook. 2537 02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:17,870 And it's only done. 2538 02:15:17,870 --> 02:15:19,950 For that one individual's benefit. 2539 02:15:19,950 --> 02:15:22,530 It's not done for the benefit of anyone in this audience, 2540 02:15:22,530 --> 02:15:24,720 not done for the benefit of anyone watching, 2541 02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:27,360 not a single center as a County citizen. 2542 02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:28,740 It's not done for anyone's benefit, 2543 02:15:28,740 --> 02:15:35,430 and his political desires and the hunger for power. 2544 02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:36,600 And I'm just over it. 2545 02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:40,720 If I don't get elected, God be God, whatever. 2546 02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,940 I've got more character and integrity. 2547 02:15:43,940 --> 02:15:45,340 Then this kind of stuff. 2548 02:15:45,340 --> 02:15:45,840 I just. 2549 02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:46,680 I can't do it. 2550 02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:48,470 I've told you time and time again 2551 02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:52,820 that you keep pushing too far and you're not a man of Honor. 2552 02:15:52,820 --> 02:15:54,180 And that's a fact. 2553 02:15:54,180 --> 02:15:56,760 And, Mr Chairman, I'm sorry for having to go that route, 2554 02:15:56,760 --> 02:16:00,270 but that's the position that we keep getting put in. 2555 02:16:00,270 --> 02:16:02,030 And if we continue to allow it like we've done 2556 02:16:02,030 --> 02:16:04,070 for the last 3 and 1/2 years, it's going 2557 02:16:04,070 --> 02:16:05,580 to continue to happen. 2558 02:16:05,580 --> 02:16:10,500 And I'm not going to be bullied anymore. 2559 02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:16,080 And once again, I absolutely appreciate your attempt, 2560 02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:20,610 but because I think that's what a chairman is supposed to do 2561 02:16:20,610 --> 02:16:24,480 is try to guide the meeting and try to bring everyone to a place 2562 02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:25,810 to get something done. 2563 02:16:25,810 --> 02:16:28,410 And as someone who has consistently 2564 02:16:28,410 --> 02:16:30,840 tried to solve a problem and bring people together 2565 02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:35,309 to do so and understand compromise, what he's 2566 02:16:35,309 --> 02:16:38,469 done to us today is not an effort to solve anything, 2567 02:16:38,469 --> 02:16:41,760 not an effort to compromise, not an effort 2568 02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:44,010 to work together, regardless of what he says 2569 02:16:44,010 --> 02:16:46,030 now after the proposed changes. 2570 02:16:46,030 --> 02:16:47,969 So I hope I'm not putting the position 2571 02:16:47,969 --> 02:16:49,823 and three other people on this board 2572 02:16:49,823 --> 02:16:51,090 aren't put in a position where they're 2573 02:16:51,090 --> 02:16:52,840 forced to take a vote on this. 2574 02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:56,410 What I would prefer to see happen is that this gets tabled, 2575 02:16:56,410 --> 02:16:59,760 a letter comes back via staff and the chairman 2576 02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:01,540 and the commissioner that wants it. 2577 02:17:01,540 --> 02:17:04,270 Everyone can review it before it's put on the agenda. 2578 02:17:04,270 --> 02:17:05,969 And we could all be proud to sign 2579 02:17:05,969 --> 02:17:10,240 something that goes to President Biden in the White House. 2580 02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:10,740 Thank you. 2581 02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:12,070 And with that, I'll take what it is. 2582 02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:13,870 If we got to go to a vote, so be it. 2583 02:17:13,870 --> 02:17:14,980 What is the difference. 2584 02:17:14,980 --> 02:17:16,660 You're saying that this is political, 2585 02:17:16,660 --> 02:17:20,170 so what is the difference with what you're trying to do. 2586 02:17:20,170 --> 02:17:21,400 It's the same thing. 2587 02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:25,360 It just I mean, this is a clear resolution. 2588 02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:27,930 You're saying this is all political theater. 2589 02:17:27,930 --> 02:17:30,469 That's what you're saying. 2590 02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:32,870 Well, then what you're doing is the same thing. 2591 02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:35,040 So Yeah. 2592 02:17:35,040 --> 02:17:37,250 Please hold on a minute. 2593 02:17:37,250 --> 02:17:40,320 What I think is going on here, I'm going to say it. 2594 02:17:40,320 --> 02:17:42,530 What I think is going on here. 2595 02:17:42,530 --> 02:17:44,719 And this was a comment that was made earlier 2596 02:17:44,719 --> 02:17:47,450 by Commissioner Kerry Smith. 2597 02:17:47,450 --> 02:17:49,490 Commissioner Kerry Smith asked me 2598 02:17:49,490 --> 02:17:54,260 if I asked the homebuilders association 2599 02:17:54,260 --> 02:17:56,730 if this was OK to do. 2600 02:17:56,730 --> 02:17:58,850 He asked me that earlier, I'm supposed 2601 02:17:58,850 --> 02:18:01,129 to get their permission. 2602 02:18:01,129 --> 02:18:05,299 Well, as you all there are tons of folks 2603 02:18:05,299 --> 02:18:09,500 that are hiring illegal aliens at the expense of hard 2604 02:18:09,500 --> 02:18:12,080 working American taxpayers. 2605 02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:16,100 And what I think is going on here, the majority of this board 2606 02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:18,629 is freaked out right now. 2607 02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:21,379 They don't want to make the homebuilders upset. 2608 02:18:21,379 --> 02:18:26,670 And that is exactly that is exactly what's going on. 2609 02:18:26,670 --> 02:18:28,969 And he was a member of the homebuilders association and 2610 02:18:28,969 --> 02:18:30,639 a sitting realtor, by the way. 2611 02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:34,950 So, listen, I'm here to do what the people want 2612 02:18:34,950 --> 02:18:40,889 and the people want the people want a resolution to basically 2613 02:18:40,889 --> 02:18:43,650 say that Santa Rosa County, Florida, does 2614 02:18:43,650 --> 02:18:45,930 not welcome illegal aliens. 2615 02:18:45,930 --> 02:18:49,490 And what we got. 2616 02:18:49,490 --> 02:18:52,340 We got a majority of this board saying that they 2617 02:18:52,340 --> 02:18:54,000 welcome illegal aliens. 2618 02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:55,410 That's what's going on here. 2619 02:18:55,410 --> 02:18:57,980 That's why they don't want to vote 2620 02:18:57,980 --> 02:19:00,510 for this because the truth is. 2621 02:19:00,510 --> 02:19:02,799 The truth is. 2622 02:19:02,799 --> 02:19:06,070 The truth is, what is the truth. 2623 02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:07,719 What is the truth. 2624 02:19:07,719 --> 02:19:12,490 The truth is this is the same board that voted to replace 2625 02:19:12,490 --> 02:19:14,900 a Republican with a Democrat. 2626 02:19:14,900 --> 02:19:17,620 This is the same board that voted for that. 2627 02:19:17,620 --> 02:19:20,950 So I'm going to say it loud and clear. 2628 02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:21,980 I didn't. 2629 02:19:21,980 --> 02:19:24,790 I did not. 2630 02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:36,129 I did not get elected to sit there and make my fellow board 2631 02:19:36,129 --> 02:19:38,530 members appease. 2632 02:19:38,530 --> 02:19:40,340 I believe this commissioner. 2633 02:19:40,340 --> 02:19:43,480 I'm proud of Mr. chairman here. 2634 02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:48,219 He's actually trying to make an effort of doing something 2635 02:19:48,219 --> 02:19:50,230 and make this go through. 2636 02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:55,520 And James, the thing is that two commissioners. 2637 02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:58,360 Miss Chapman, I'm going to say this because you all have made 2638 02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:00,010 a pure mockery out of this. 2639 02:20:00,010 --> 02:20:04,250 Two commissioners have mail outs that have this subject on it. 2640 02:20:04,250 --> 02:20:07,960 Get a vote and get rid of this subject. 2641 02:20:07,960 --> 02:20:14,410 Well, I can tell you, there was the Santa Rosa County Democratic 2642 02:20:14,410 --> 02:20:17,500 Party, the Santa Rosa County Democratic Party put out 2643 02:20:17,500 --> 02:20:20,540 a they are fully against this. 2644 02:20:20,540 --> 02:20:23,120 They are fully against this resolution. 2645 02:20:23,120 --> 02:20:27,080 So I would like to say that, Commissioner, let me 2646 02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:31,040 just as a conservative Republican, 2647 02:20:31,040 --> 02:20:35,060 as a conservative Republican, I'd like to make a motion. 2648 02:20:35,060 --> 02:20:35,910 Give me just a second. 2649 02:20:35,910 --> 02:20:40,670 Listen, folks, I know these commissioners have had, 2650 02:20:40,670 --> 02:20:43,950 including myself, extremely long dialogue. 2651 02:20:43,950 --> 02:20:47,300 That's because we're a Republic that's 2652 02:20:47,300 --> 02:20:48,960 been elected to make decisions. 2653 02:20:48,960 --> 02:20:52,970 And I do my best, as you've heard fellow commissioners even 2654 02:20:52,970 --> 02:20:56,570 ask Commissioner Calkins about being respectful and not 2655 02:20:56,570 --> 02:20:57,840 interrupting folks. 2656 02:20:57,840 --> 02:21:01,910 So I'll say again, as I've said before, if we could please 2657 02:21:01,910 --> 02:21:05,060 all act to treat each other the way we want to be treated 2658 02:21:05,060 --> 02:21:06,750 are not outbursts and yelling. 2659 02:21:06,750 --> 02:21:09,110 I try not to do that, even if I disagree with what 2660 02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:10,177 you say at the podium. 2661 02:21:10,177 --> 02:21:11,310 I'll let you finish your thoughts. 2662 02:21:11,310 --> 02:21:15,680 And I see I'm asking if we could please maintain civility 2663 02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:18,740 so that we can show folks that, hey, we do know how to act 2664 02:21:18,740 --> 02:21:21,620 in a board room and we don't try to vilify one person 2665 02:21:21,620 --> 02:21:23,730 for acting wrong or whatever. 2666 02:21:23,730 --> 02:21:24,640 So go ahead, Commissioner. 2667 02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:25,140 All right. 2668 02:21:25,140 --> 02:21:26,240 I'm going to I'm going to finish. 2669 02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:31,670 I'm going to finish my I'm going to finish what I'm OK. 2670 02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:34,460 I'm going to make a I'm going to make a motion. 2671 02:21:34,460 --> 02:21:39,030 OK with the amended resolution. 2672 02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:41,690 And I'm going to read it right now. 2673 02:21:41,690 --> 02:21:44,550 A resolution declaring, I'm sorry. 2674 02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:46,350 I just was going to ask one question. 2675 02:21:46,350 --> 02:21:49,230 If beforehand listen, if it comes to a vote, 2676 02:21:49,230 --> 02:21:50,850 obviously on the language that I wrote, 2677 02:21:50,850 --> 02:21:52,320 I'm fully going to support it. 2678 02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:56,030 I mean, I've been abundantly clear on the way I feel, but. 2679 02:21:56,030 --> 02:21:58,890 I'm just asking for consideration before a motion. 2680 02:21:58,890 --> 02:22:01,350 And again, it is unfortunate. 2681 02:22:01,350 --> 02:22:04,700 I'm sitting here as the most tenured member 2682 02:22:04,700 --> 02:22:08,330 to see the board fractured. 2683 02:22:08,330 --> 02:22:12,440 I would like to send a loud I'd love to send 2684 02:22:12,440 --> 02:22:15,470 a unanimous message of support. 2685 02:22:15,470 --> 02:22:18,710 So I'm just floating that as far as if there is something 2686 02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:21,860 you would entertain to if it comes to a vote on the wording 2687 02:22:21,860 --> 02:22:24,290 I put clearly, I'm going to say, Yes, I understand 2688 02:22:24,290 --> 02:22:31,210 all the personalities and the unfortunate that of causing this 2689 02:22:31,210 --> 02:22:31,710 divide. 2690 02:22:31,710 --> 02:22:35,090 I'm just I'm floating that if there's a way that we could have 2691 02:22:35,090 --> 02:22:40,590 the board be through a unanimous Yes on whatever we call it, 2692 02:22:40,590 --> 02:22:43,220 a letter of resolution, I personally 2693 02:22:43,220 --> 02:22:46,790 see no problem with it with the amended language 2694 02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:47,850 that I explained. 2695 02:22:47,850 --> 02:22:50,750 But I'm just that's going to be my last plea. 2696 02:22:50,750 --> 02:22:51,950 If there's something the board could 2697 02:22:51,950 --> 02:22:55,170 do to unify, whether that's today or the label date. 2698 02:22:55,170 --> 02:23:00,020 But I mean, I've been extremely lengthy with my dialogue 2699 02:23:00,020 --> 02:23:04,320 and I mean, I'm unwavering in my thoughts about Yes, 2700 02:23:04,320 --> 02:23:05,610 this is a crisis. 2701 02:23:05,610 --> 02:23:09,290 This is a public health nuisance. 2702 02:23:09,290 --> 02:23:12,560 But again, that was my last plea, Commissioner Caulkins 2703 02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:14,300 and then I won't cut you off. 2704 02:23:14,300 --> 02:23:15,990 OK what I would like to. 2705 02:23:15,990 --> 02:23:21,560 Yeah, Mr Chairman, you are in control of this board. 2706 02:23:21,560 --> 02:23:24,990 These people out here need to be quiet when y'all are speaking. 2707 02:23:24,990 --> 02:23:27,750 But when they speak, we need to be quiet and listen. 2708 02:23:27,750 --> 02:23:29,370 But you are in control. 2709 02:23:29,370 --> 02:23:31,710 And you need to control all of us up here. 2710 02:23:31,710 --> 02:23:35,730 Please step up and tell us if we're in the. 2711 02:23:35,730 --> 02:23:39,380 Be quiet, please, sir, I'm going to have you all sign waivers 2712 02:23:39,380 --> 02:23:40,940 that let me slap somebody in the mouth 2713 02:23:40,940 --> 02:23:42,410 because I don't really know what else to do 2714 02:23:42,410 --> 02:23:45,190 sometimes when but go ahead. 2715 02:23:45,190 --> 02:23:45,690 All right. 2716 02:23:45,690 --> 02:23:47,980 I'm trying to be as polite as possible. 2717 02:23:47,980 --> 02:23:48,480 All right. 2718 02:23:48,480 --> 02:23:50,310 I think Mr Chairman, is doing a good job. 2719 02:23:50,310 --> 02:23:51,600 I just want to say that. 2720 02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:55,920 And I think it's a heated issue. 2721 02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:57,520 It shouldn't be a heated issue. 2722 02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,250 It shouldn't it should have been. 2723 02:23:59,250 --> 02:24:02,070 I'm sure the citizens of Santa Rosa County 2724 02:24:02,070 --> 02:24:04,650 are going to be shocked that this was actually a heated issue 2725 02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:06,540 with the most we live in the most 2726 02:24:06,540 --> 02:24:09,190 conservative County in Florida. 2727 02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:11,670 And the fact that we have opposition 2728 02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:14,610 to saying that illegal aliens aren't welcome in Santa 2729 02:24:14,610 --> 02:24:18,600 Rosa County is stunning. 2730 02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:24,060 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read off 2731 02:24:24,060 --> 02:24:29,590 the resolution with the amended language that Mr Chairman added. 2732 02:24:29,590 --> 02:24:32,710 And then if this passes, it would be great. 2733 02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:35,530 If it doesn't, that's on everybody that votes against it. 2734 02:24:35,530 --> 02:24:37,420 They got to live with the citizens. 2735 02:24:37,420 --> 02:24:40,260 Fine and then we could and then we can. 2736 02:24:40,260 --> 02:24:45,640 Then we can do a motion to do the other things. 2737 02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:49,770 But I'm going to start off with this. 2738 02:24:49,770 --> 02:24:54,150 OK a resolution declaring that Santa Rosa County, Florida, does 2739 02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:58,560 not support illegal immigration, whereas Santa 2740 02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:01,300 Rosa County welcomes and honors legal immigrants. 2741 02:25:01,300 --> 02:25:03,420 And whereas, legal immigration is 2742 02:25:03,420 --> 02:25:06,990 vital to the economic, technological and strategic 2743 02:25:06,990 --> 02:25:08,170 strength of our County. 2744 02:25:08,170 --> 02:25:10,920 And whereas, Santa Rosa County is committed 2745 02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:14,730 to supporting lawful immigration and providing opportunities 2746 02:25:14,730 --> 02:25:16,560 for legal immigrants who contribute 2747 02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:18,220 positively to our community. 2748 02:25:18,220 --> 02:25:21,070 And whereas, currently the federal government 2749 02:25:21,070 --> 02:25:24,460 is intentionally violating asylum laws and spending 2750 02:25:24,460 --> 02:25:26,560 billions of dollars in taxpayer funds 2751 02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:30,410 to admit illegal immigrants, many who are serious criminals. 2752 02:25:30,410 --> 02:25:34,120 And whereas the safety and security of the citizens 2753 02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:37,150 of Santa Rosa County is of utmost importance 2754 02:25:37,150 --> 02:25:40,540 and illegal immigration poses significant challenges 2755 02:25:40,540 --> 02:25:44,800 to public safety, public health, and the economic well-being 2756 02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:45,950 of our community. 2757 02:25:45,950 --> 02:25:48,880 And whereas the rule of law must be 2758 02:25:48,880 --> 02:25:51,190 upheld to ensure the fair and just 2759 02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:53,600 treatment of all individuals. 2760 02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:56,920 Now, therefore be it resolved by the Board of County 2761 02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:58,730 Commissioners of Santa Rosa County, 2762 02:25:58,730 --> 02:26:03,730 Section 1 Santa Rosa County does not support illegal immigration 2763 02:26:03,730 --> 02:26:07,030 and stands in support of federal and state laws 2764 02:26:07,030 --> 02:26:09,510 designed to prevent illegal immigration. 2765 02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:10,320 Section 2. 2766 02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:14,080 Santa Rosa County will cooperate fully with federal and state 2767 02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,690 authorities to enforce immigration laws 2768 02:26:16,690 --> 02:26:19,660 and ensure illegal immigration is not tolerated 2769 02:26:19,660 --> 02:26:21,940 within our jurisdiction. 2770 02:26:21,940 --> 02:26:24,430 Section 3 the Board of County Commissioners 2771 02:26:24,430 --> 02:26:27,790 encourages all residents to respect the rule of law 2772 02:26:27,790 --> 02:26:31,280 and support lawful immigration process. 2773 02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:34,120 Section 4 the Board of County Commissioners 2774 02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:38,230 encourages President Biden to use all available options 2775 02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:40,570 to immediately secure the Southern border 2776 02:26:40,570 --> 02:26:45,040 and stop facilitating the relocation of illegal immigrants 2777 02:26:45,040 --> 02:26:48,400 throughout the United States of America. 2778 02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:52,720 This motion is amended, and I make 2779 02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:58,870 a motion to approve this resolution asking for a second. 2780 02:26:58,870 --> 02:26:59,470 I'm in. 2781 02:26:59,470 --> 02:27:01,360 I'll second it because I drafted language 2782 02:27:01,360 --> 02:27:03,140 and that you were willing to read into there. 2783 02:27:03,140 --> 02:27:08,880 So we've got a motion and a second if for nobody else's. 2784 02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:11,300 Can I speak on something just real quick. 2785 02:27:11,300 --> 02:27:12,283 No, ma'am, not at this point. 2786 02:27:12,283 --> 02:27:13,450 We're going to call a vote and then 2787 02:27:13,450 --> 02:27:15,850 we're going to allow everybody's bladder 2788 02:27:15,850 --> 02:27:17,730 to take a break for 10 minutes. 2789 02:27:17,730 --> 02:27:18,230 All right. 2790 02:27:18,230 --> 02:27:21,160 So we've got a motion and a second 2791 02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:24,720 to pass the resolution on, reflecting the amended language 2792 02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:26,050 that was just read into it. 2793 02:27:26,050 --> 02:27:27,360 And I've got a written staff here 2794 02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,000 that I mean, a written copy that I'll provide 2795 02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:31,600 to staff after the meeting. 2796 02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:33,330 All those in favor of that motion 2797 02:27:33,330 --> 02:27:35,790 signify by raising your right hand. 2798 02:27:35,790 --> 02:27:38,730 All those opposed like sign. 2799 02:27:38,730 --> 02:27:41,230 All right, the motion fails. 2800 02:27:41,230 --> 02:27:42,660 OK that's chair. 2801 02:27:42,660 --> 02:27:47,070 Can I. Can I table it What say it again. 2802 02:27:47,070 --> 02:27:48,630 Am I able to. 2803 02:27:48,630 --> 02:27:50,250 Can I make a motion to. 2804 02:27:50,250 --> 02:27:51,700 To table the. 2805 02:27:51,700 --> 02:27:52,900 No, no, it's. 2806 02:27:52,900 --> 02:27:53,400 We are. 2807 02:27:53,400 --> 02:27:55,060 It already got voted down, Commissioner. 2808 02:27:55,060 --> 02:27:56,710 Mr Chairman. 2809 02:27:56,710 --> 02:27:57,370 Yes, sir. 2810 02:27:57,370 --> 02:28:00,450 If you would like to revisit the topic with staff 2811 02:28:00,450 --> 02:28:04,020 and have staff communicate with the commissioners, 2812 02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:07,350 I think we've given some pretty clear 2813 02:28:07,350 --> 02:28:10,260 direction how we feel about President 2814 02:28:10,260 --> 02:28:12,840 Biden and his policies. 2815 02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:14,420 And I think that's something that if this board 2816 02:28:14,420 --> 02:28:15,520 wants to take up at a later date, 2817 02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,690 I think we'd be happy to do so. 2818 02:28:18,690 --> 02:28:19,450 Thank you. 2819 02:28:19,450 --> 02:28:24,150 And as much as I would love to never broach 2820 02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:26,230 the semantics that we've had today, 2821 02:28:26,230 --> 02:28:27,550 I do believe in what I said. 2822 02:28:27,550 --> 02:28:29,500 And so I appreciate Commissioner, right. 2823 02:28:29,500 --> 02:28:30,780 As you said, because I still think 2824 02:28:30,780 --> 02:28:34,440 sending a strong and unified message about the issue 2825 02:28:34,440 --> 02:28:37,820 could potentially be supportive. 2826 02:28:37,820 --> 02:28:38,320 All right. 2827 02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:42,060 With that, let's grab this last commissioner item 2828 02:28:42,060 --> 02:28:45,280 so at least we can say we finished a section and then 2829 02:28:45,280 --> 02:28:46,970 and then we'll take a restroom break. 2830 02:28:46,970 --> 02:28:48,760 Commissioner Eddington wanted to appoint 2831 02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:51,190 a new zoning board member. 2832 02:28:51,190 --> 02:28:52,630 Commissioner eddington? 2833 02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:53,920 Yes, sir. 2834 02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:57,580 Mr Grimes had to step down because of his new job. 2835 02:28:57,580 --> 02:29:00,560 And I got a gentleman lives in. 2836 02:29:00,560 --> 02:29:03,220 Holly lived there all his life. 2837 02:29:03,220 --> 02:29:08,680 Gene Sullivan, or a long time resident, lived there. 2838 02:29:08,680 --> 02:29:11,360 His parents was the first one ever opened up the gas station, 2839 02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:14,770 a little store in Holly, and I think he'd be a good person 2840 02:29:14,770 --> 02:29:16,870 for the zoning board. 2841 02:29:16,870 --> 02:29:20,020 He started out as an electrician for a contractor. 2842 02:29:20,020 --> 02:29:23,440 Now he's a supervisor for that contractor 2843 02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:25,340 at herbertville and Egeland. 2844 02:29:25,340 --> 02:29:29,500 And I appreciate if you all approve this without objection. 2845 02:29:29,500 --> 02:29:31,480 And I just want to tell you, Thank you 2846 02:29:31,480 --> 02:29:33,740 for finding a fella to do it. 2847 02:29:33,740 --> 02:29:36,250 And from the bottom of my heart, just as I've said, 2848 02:29:36,250 --> 02:29:37,780 almost every one of you gentlemen 2849 02:29:37,780 --> 02:29:41,020 have served on boards of capacity, some of you multiple. 2850 02:29:41,020 --> 02:29:43,570 Thank you to Mr Sullivan. 2851 02:29:43,570 --> 02:29:44,570 I look forward to meeting you. 2852 02:29:44,570 --> 02:29:47,480 But Mr Sullivan, Thank you for your willingness to serve. 2853 02:29:47,480 --> 02:29:48,430 So thank you, Ray. 2854 02:29:48,430 --> 02:29:50,950 I don't see any opposition, so I think 2855 02:29:50,950 --> 02:29:53,000 you made a motion without objection to approve that, 2856 02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:53,960 if I heard you right. 2857 02:29:53,960 --> 02:29:56,750 So there's no objection that passes. 2858 02:29:56,750 --> 02:29:58,880 He's are now our new zoning board member. 2859 02:29:58,880 --> 02:30:01,720 And then before we go to the consent agenda, 2860 02:30:01,720 --> 02:30:03,890 the phone says it's 10:55. 2861 02:30:03,890 --> 02:30:06,830 So how about we come back at 11:05 or 11. 2862 02:30:06,830 --> 02:30:07,400 11, 10. 2863 02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:08,940 Y'all want 10 minutes or 15. 2864 02:30:08,940 --> 02:30:09,440 All right. 2865 02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:12,790 11:05 we'll be good 10 minute break. 2866 02:30:12,790 --> 02:30:13,290 All right. 2867 02:30:13,290 --> 02:35:13,100 2868 02:35:13,100 --> 02:35:14,540 Test 1, 2. 2869 02:35:14,540 --> 02:35:15,840 Testing 1, 2. 2870 02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:23,170 2871 02:35:23,170 --> 02:35:24,795 Test one to test. 2872 02:35:24,795 --> 02:36:43,880 2873 02:36:43,880 --> 02:40:55,990 Now so. 2874 02:40:55,990 --> 02:40:57,190 All right. 2875 02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:58,150 Thank you. 2876 02:40:58,150 --> 02:41:03,400 Thank you for everybody that was able to make it 2877 02:41:03,400 --> 02:41:05,320 through the break and stay with us. 2878 02:41:05,320 --> 02:41:09,010 So hopefully true to normal fashion 2879 02:41:09,010 --> 02:41:12,080 will pass millions of dollars of important infrastructure work, 2880 02:41:12,080 --> 02:41:14,080 probably in just a matter of minutes here. 2881 02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:15,460 All right. 2882 02:41:15,460 --> 02:41:18,700 First is we have the consent agenda. 2883 02:41:18,700 --> 02:41:22,030 Are there any questions or concerns 2884 02:41:22,030 --> 02:41:24,130 that need to be discussed further on the two 2885 02:41:24,130 --> 02:41:25,545 items on the consent agenda. 2886 02:41:25,545 --> 02:41:28,270 2887 02:41:28,270 --> 02:41:28,820 All right. 2888 02:41:28,820 --> 02:41:30,700 I'm seeing none, so I'll make a motion 2889 02:41:30,700 --> 02:41:35,650 to approve both of these items without objection. 2890 02:41:35,650 --> 02:41:37,310 Hearing none, they're approved. 2891 02:41:37,310 --> 02:41:40,520 And again, just Thank you to triumph. 2892 02:41:40,520 --> 02:41:43,540 And Thank you for this ranchettes project 2893 02:41:43,540 --> 02:41:45,380 that's in your district, right, commissioner? 2894 02:41:45,380 --> 02:41:46,270 Yes, sir. 2895 02:41:46,270 --> 02:41:48,710 Mr $3 million drainage project. 2896 02:41:48,710 --> 02:41:50,290 And I told my wife, I said we can 2897 02:41:50,290 --> 02:41:52,240 pass millions of dollars in important stuff 2898 02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:53,120 without discussion. 2899 02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:55,777 So thank you for your work with those folks 2900 02:41:55,777 --> 02:41:56,610 down there, Commissioner. 2901 02:41:56,610 --> 02:41:57,377 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 2902 02:41:57,377 --> 02:41:59,540 And just a reminder, that was started under Commissioner 2903 02:41:59,540 --> 02:42:01,860 Richards when he was at the helm here, 2904 02:42:01,860 --> 02:42:04,860 and that's staff and everyone has worked a long time on that. 2905 02:42:04,860 --> 02:42:06,390 I just realized something. 2906 02:42:06,390 --> 02:42:08,820 If you don't mind, just giving people a reminder in case 2907 02:42:08,820 --> 02:42:10,550 they are watching at home that today 2908 02:42:10,550 --> 02:42:12,060 is our only meeting this week. 2909 02:42:12,060 --> 02:42:12,890 Yes, sir. 2910 02:42:12,890 --> 02:42:15,740 And it's not just a committee meeting No Yes, you're right. 2911 02:42:15,740 --> 02:42:16,650 And I appreciate it. 2912 02:42:16,650 --> 02:42:19,970 And that probably only exasperates sometimes 2913 02:42:19,970 --> 02:42:21,060 coming to a conclusion. 2914 02:42:21,060 --> 02:42:23,690 But Yes, we canceled the Thursday meeting 2915 02:42:23,690 --> 02:42:26,180 because several gentlemen have to travel 2916 02:42:26,180 --> 02:42:27,980 to represent the County. 2917 02:42:27,980 --> 02:42:30,380 So it's obviously always best when we 2918 02:42:30,380 --> 02:42:31,530 can try to have a full board. 2919 02:42:31,530 --> 02:42:32,520 So we canceled Thursday's. 2920 02:42:32,520 --> 02:42:35,180 So today will be the committee and the regular all in one 2921 02:42:35,180 --> 02:42:38,150 or technically we titled The regular and then in case I 2922 02:42:38,150 --> 02:42:41,330 forget at the end, we will reconvene at 1:00 today right 2923 02:42:41,330 --> 02:42:43,230 here for a budget hearing. 2924 02:42:43,230 --> 02:42:45,960 I don't anticipate that will be extremely lengthy, 2925 02:42:45,960 --> 02:42:47,790 but I'm really excited about it. 2926 02:42:47,790 --> 02:42:49,800 And then we'll have the 5 o'clock meeting tonight. 2927 02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:52,230 So don't drive all the way to Navarre, 2928 02:42:52,230 --> 02:42:54,440 the zoning board meeting. 2929 02:42:54,440 --> 02:42:56,970 So you need to stay around Milton. 2930 02:42:56,970 --> 02:42:57,890 So what we're telling you. 2931 02:42:57,890 --> 02:42:59,240 All right. 2932 02:42:59,240 --> 02:43:02,600 So next on the regular agenda under Services 2933 02:43:02,600 --> 02:43:09,170 and community relations report, there are nine items. 2934 02:43:09,170 --> 02:43:12,260 Are there any that need to have further discussion 2935 02:43:12,260 --> 02:43:13,530 or questions answered. 2936 02:43:13,530 --> 02:43:15,410 I'll give you all a minute to look over that because I 2937 02:43:15,410 --> 02:43:17,700 know this is both. 2938 02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:23,240 And as you all look at that, I will say Sarah can Thank you 2939 02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:24,600 and congratulations on. 2940 02:43:24,600 --> 02:43:28,160 It's exciting to see about the opportunity 2941 02:43:28,160 --> 02:43:30,150 to partner with some folks to further educate. 2942 02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:34,550 So that was very interesting to see and we appreciate that. 2943 02:43:34,550 --> 02:43:36,480 Any questions or comments, commissioner? 2944 02:43:36,480 --> 02:43:39,900 Yeah Item number two East mental water request. 2945 02:43:39,900 --> 02:43:42,620 Yes, I'm glad you brought that up 2946 02:43:42,620 --> 02:43:46,830 because we do have a gentleman that has been extremely patient. 2947 02:43:46,830 --> 02:43:48,800 So before we get to that one just 2948 02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:53,040 are there any other ones just so we can mark it and Thank you. 2949 02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:54,870 I forgot to mark my agenda. 2950 02:43:54,870 --> 02:43:57,030 I was going to say we needed to speak on that. 2951 02:43:57,030 --> 02:43:59,900 But Mr Chairman, I was just going to give everyone a heads 2952 02:43:59,900 --> 02:44:03,020 up that DEP water supply grant program 2953 02:44:03,020 --> 02:44:05,210 has been extended to July 15, so we 2954 02:44:05,210 --> 02:44:06,920 might have some additional applicants 2955 02:44:06,920 --> 02:44:09,500 in the first meeting in July. 2956 02:44:09,500 --> 02:44:13,770 OK can I get some clarification on that. 2957 02:44:13,770 --> 02:44:15,650 Do you remember what we were talking about earlier. 2958 02:44:15,650 --> 02:44:20,630 Is that the same situation with DEP that you were talking 2959 02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:23,480 was ending that entire all programs 2960 02:44:23,480 --> 02:44:29,010 within that particular method of submission or extended? 2961 02:44:29,010 --> 02:44:31,460 There's multiple there's six or seven of them grants 2962 02:44:31,460 --> 02:44:34,320 that are extended from June 30, July 15, 2963 02:44:34,320 --> 02:44:35,460 and that falls under it. 2964 02:44:35,460 --> 02:44:35,990 It does. 2965 02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:38,010 And we are getting that application. 2966 02:44:38,010 --> 02:44:38,870 OK Thank you. 2967 02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:39,830 Thank you. 2968 02:44:39,830 --> 02:44:41,870 And the last thing I'll say on that 2969 02:44:41,870 --> 02:44:45,350 is very thankful this is going to be fantastic 2970 02:44:45,350 --> 02:44:48,630 not only for our potable water providers from drinking water, 2971 02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:50,430 obviously, but I'm excited. 2972 02:44:50,430 --> 02:44:51,780 I'll give credit where credit is due. 2973 02:44:51,780 --> 02:44:55,880 Brad Baker was he was the brainchild, even if he doesn't 2974 02:44:55,880 --> 02:44:58,220 think so he was the one that planted the Nugget that talked 2975 02:44:58,220 --> 02:45:03,320 about the need for more fire hydrants 2976 02:45:03,320 --> 02:45:06,650 out there in the rural areas and that conversation and some trips 2977 02:45:06,650 --> 02:45:12,320 to Tallahassee and collaboration with Senator Broxson and folks 2978 02:45:12,320 --> 02:45:15,270 have led to these great applications that we see. 2979 02:45:15,270 --> 02:45:17,400 So, Brad, I'm going to give you all the credit on that. 2980 02:45:17,400 --> 02:45:21,120 It took there was a lot of horses pulling the wagon. 2981 02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:25,220 But I'll say that untied untied the bridle there 2982 02:45:25,220 --> 02:45:26,070 and let them go. 2983 02:45:26,070 --> 02:45:28,950 So we appreciate you, Brad, and your expertise on that. 2984 02:45:28,950 --> 02:45:31,967 So we'll go ahead and pass with the exception of number two, 2985 02:45:31,967 --> 02:45:33,200 that we're about to have a discussion 2986 02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:37,950 on budget items 1 through 9:00, except number two. 2987 02:45:37,950 --> 02:45:38,740 We'll go ahead. 2988 02:45:38,740 --> 02:45:40,470 I'll make a motion to approve those. 2989 02:45:40,470 --> 02:45:43,140 Without objection, hearing none, those are approved. 2990 02:45:43,140 --> 02:45:48,530 And then we've got Cleo here with the East 2991 02:45:48,530 --> 02:45:49,740 Milton water system. 2992 02:45:49,740 --> 02:45:54,760 And I know I'd say I'll probably save you a step. 2993 02:45:54,760 --> 02:45:58,340 I think most people are aware of what they're asking for. 2994 02:45:58,340 --> 02:46:00,920 I know we had broached on a previous meeting. 2995 02:46:00,920 --> 02:46:04,840 I appreciate you being here to answer any questions 2996 02:46:04,840 --> 02:46:06,110 that the board may have. 2997 02:46:06,110 --> 02:46:09,890 I will share with you before I turn it over to any questions. 2998 02:46:09,890 --> 02:46:11,300 The extent of my knowledge. 2999 02:46:11,300 --> 02:46:17,590 We had an opportunity to meet last week and sort 3000 02:46:17,590 --> 02:46:19,400 of through creative brainstorming, 3001 02:46:19,400 --> 02:46:23,410 I will say we came up with an idea 3002 02:46:23,410 --> 02:46:25,030 to bring forward to the Board today 3003 02:46:25,030 --> 02:46:29,380 and really the board action after I give you the idea that I 3004 02:46:29,380 --> 02:46:32,710 told him we probably would be looking for is to give staff 3005 02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:35,020 direction to work on this. 3006 02:46:35,020 --> 02:46:38,840 But clearly they need another well capacity. 3007 02:46:38,840 --> 02:46:40,130 They're not looking to build a tower. 3008 02:46:40,130 --> 02:46:43,180 They need another well, and they do need a bigger office complex. 3009 02:46:43,180 --> 02:46:45,790 Even share with me about some of the troubles 3010 02:46:45,790 --> 02:46:48,400 that are having with staffing places 3011 02:46:48,400 --> 02:46:50,980 and in even record storage. 3012 02:46:50,980 --> 02:46:56,220 We obviously have the challenge of limited industrial property. 3013 02:46:56,220 --> 02:46:58,620 And I appreciate we have Shannon here as well, 3014 02:46:58,620 --> 02:47:00,750 that in case he wanted to chime in on it, 3015 02:47:00,750 --> 02:47:03,270 but there's a map in the backup. 3016 02:47:03,270 --> 02:47:04,410 I online. 3017 02:47:04,410 --> 02:47:08,040 I'm not sure if it's in your paper backup agendas, 3018 02:47:08,040 --> 02:47:12,200 but what we had come up with is that initial parcel 3019 02:47:12,200 --> 02:47:15,120 as you enter the industrial part, we got to looking at it. 3020 02:47:15,120 --> 02:47:17,780 And since we realized that Randy mountain road was going 3021 02:47:17,780 --> 02:47:21,410 to be vacated anyway because we've already had that decision 3022 02:47:21,410 --> 02:47:28,320 made with FPL, there's no reason why if the board said, 3023 02:47:28,320 --> 02:47:29,730 hey, we could allow them to have it, 3024 02:47:29,730 --> 02:47:31,670 I told him I would support allowing them to have 3025 02:47:31,670 --> 02:47:34,400 that Southern portion that includes the road 3026 02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:36,170 and the property all the way to the railroad 3027 02:47:36,170 --> 02:47:38,737 tracks, because originally their proposal, 3028 02:47:38,737 --> 02:47:40,670 they had talked about when they came in front of the board 3029 02:47:40,670 --> 02:47:43,370 a while back and you all probably been contacted by Kyle 3030 02:47:43,370 --> 02:47:46,200 Holley was to not have that portion, 3031 02:47:46,200 --> 02:47:49,230 but frankly, it would be unusable if it was separated. 3032 02:47:49,230 --> 02:47:52,340 So I think what we came up with was ballpark 3033 02:47:52,340 --> 02:47:55,910 if the board supported it and they would survey it 3034 02:47:55,910 --> 02:47:58,350 out to roughly 9 to 10 acres. 3035 02:47:58,350 --> 02:48:02,420 And I think that what you'll see there leaves a section 3036 02:48:02,420 --> 02:48:04,880 that's a roughly 3 and 1/2 to four 3037 02:48:04,880 --> 02:48:06,930 acres that they wouldn't touch. 3038 02:48:06,930 --> 02:48:08,750 And my thought process and again, I'm 3039 02:48:08,750 --> 02:48:12,590 just sharing this is just one just me thinking of this 3040 02:48:12,590 --> 02:48:13,920 but ran by them. 3041 02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:16,190 It would give them the land that he 3042 02:48:16,190 --> 02:48:19,200 said would be sufficient for what they want to do. 3043 02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:21,650 But I told him that it would at least 3044 02:48:21,650 --> 02:48:23,520 allow me to maintain a parcel. 3045 02:48:23,520 --> 02:48:27,020 We've got some of our industrial parcels out there in the park 3046 02:48:27,020 --> 02:48:30,560 and our partners that are actually we've 3047 02:48:30,560 --> 02:48:32,370 got a couple that are on one acre parcels, 3048 02:48:32,370 --> 02:48:34,760 but we've got a couple of our small manufacturing companies 3049 02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:36,420 that are on two acre parcels. 3050 02:48:36,420 --> 02:48:39,050 So I felt like that would still leave about a 3 and 1/2 to four 3051 02:48:39,050 --> 02:48:43,520 acre parcel that Shannon and the folks with economic development 3052 02:48:43,520 --> 02:48:48,290 could still try to bring in somebody that would be a proper 3053 02:48:48,290 --> 02:48:50,420 fit for the industrial park but be 3054 02:48:50,420 --> 02:48:52,110 able to fit on that footprint. 3055 02:48:52,110 --> 02:48:54,710 And quite frankly, this is just one of those 3056 02:48:54,710 --> 02:48:55,800 where I know it's challenging. 3057 02:48:55,800 --> 02:48:57,620 I don't like giving away industrial property 3058 02:48:57,620 --> 02:49:01,830 and I say giving away selling it or whatever for non industry. 3059 02:49:01,830 --> 02:49:05,690 But Mr Cleo does drive a pretty good argument 3060 02:49:05,690 --> 02:49:08,960 when he says that they do have to supply the water for all 3061 02:49:08,960 --> 02:49:10,110 of our industrial parks. 3062 02:49:10,110 --> 02:49:13,010 And so this was an idea that I told 3063 02:49:13,010 --> 02:49:15,860 him I would be willing to at least 3064 02:49:15,860 --> 02:49:17,550 float out there to the board. 3065 02:49:17,550 --> 02:49:20,450 I mean, I know this is an obviously 3066 02:49:20,450 --> 02:49:22,383 commissioner Smith's district. 3067 02:49:22,383 --> 02:49:23,550 I didn't want it to seem like that. 3068 02:49:23,550 --> 02:49:25,740 This was just when I had had the opportunity to met with him, 3069 02:49:25,740 --> 02:49:27,860 I said, this is something I would support 3070 02:49:27,860 --> 02:49:30,300 and you could come to the board and see what they say. 3071 02:49:30,300 --> 02:49:34,260 And then I told him the ultimate goal, if the board supported it, 3072 02:49:34,260 --> 02:49:37,400 is just to allow staff then to work those 3073 02:49:37,400 --> 02:49:39,540 what the details would be in it. 3074 02:49:39,540 --> 02:49:41,790 But that's where I'm at on it. 3075 02:49:41,790 --> 02:49:44,450 Gentlemen commissioner Smith, it's your district 3076 02:49:44,450 --> 02:49:46,440 or anybody that has thoughts. 3077 02:49:46,440 --> 02:49:48,050 I know he's here to answer questions 3078 02:49:48,050 --> 02:49:50,400 and we've got Shannon and his folks. 3079 02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:52,180 But that's me. 3080 02:49:52,180 --> 02:49:52,680 That's it. 3081 02:49:52,680 --> 02:49:54,290 That's all I got. 3082 02:49:54,290 --> 02:49:55,500 OK well, Thank you. 3083 02:49:55,500 --> 02:49:57,680 Thank you, Chairman. 3084 02:49:57,680 --> 02:50:01,660 Where I stand on it, it is a valuable piece 3085 02:50:01,660 --> 02:50:03,880 of industrial property. 3086 02:50:03,880 --> 02:50:08,920 And the only way that I would even halfway consider it 3087 02:50:08,920 --> 02:50:13,340 is if we were to if it's an exchange on market value. 3088 02:50:13,340 --> 02:50:20,650 Now we have it at 115,000 per Paul Salter's market opinion. 3089 02:50:20,650 --> 02:50:22,760 But that was six months ago. 3090 02:50:22,760 --> 02:50:24,370 It could be more now. 3091 02:50:24,370 --> 02:50:28,460 So the only way I'm even looking at it, 3092 02:50:28,460 --> 02:50:30,950 I mean, maybe it's not even the best fit. 3093 02:50:30,950 --> 02:50:34,870 Even if they were to pony up the 115 3094 02:50:34,870 --> 02:50:37,880 or be willing to look at a new appraisal. 3095 02:50:37,880 --> 02:50:42,010 But that's where I'm at with that one 3096 02:50:42,010 --> 02:50:48,550 because that's we're at a point right now where 3097 02:50:48,550 --> 02:50:50,680 industrial land in that park and I 3098 02:50:50,680 --> 02:50:54,190 mean I'm even battling with Shannon as far as. 3099 02:50:54,190 --> 02:50:58,330 Identifying something of a need that I'm looking at 3100 02:50:58,330 --> 02:51:00,890 and I'm not able to find it. 3101 02:51:00,890 --> 02:51:08,180 So for us to put as far as an office need I see clear. 3102 02:51:08,180 --> 02:51:10,330 You got a y'all got a location up 3103 02:51:10,330 --> 02:51:12,800 there off of 87 and South Lynn. 3104 02:51:12,800 --> 02:51:15,620 That's a great location for an office. 3105 02:51:15,620 --> 02:51:20,250 I mean, that's a perfect location to put an office. 3106 02:51:20,250 --> 02:51:21,470 It's on a main road. 3107 02:51:21,470 --> 02:51:25,100 It's got a lot of access points as far as an office goes. 3108 02:51:25,100 --> 02:51:26,390 I mean, as far as another. 3109 02:51:26,390 --> 02:51:29,170 Well, I know you already have a well in the park, 3110 02:51:29,170 --> 02:51:32,890 but I don't think we're having an issue with water supply 3111 02:51:32,890 --> 02:51:35,710 for the industrial sector. 3112 02:51:35,710 --> 02:51:37,990 That being said, we know that industrial 3113 02:51:37,990 --> 02:51:41,750 really doesn't use as much water as the housing complex does. 3114 02:51:41,750 --> 02:51:49,430 So I'm mad at I'm looking at it on the holistic point of view. 3115 02:51:49,430 --> 02:51:50,890 I mean, I don't want to look at it 3116 02:51:50,890 --> 02:51:57,470 and just say Yeah, I'm all for this because as I'm hesitating 3117 02:51:57,470 --> 02:52:01,130 to say, I'd even be for it if they were willing to pay market 3118 02:52:01,130 --> 02:52:05,270 value for it because it is a valuable piece of land 3119 02:52:05,270 --> 02:52:08,840 and you are looking at the extension being through there 3120 02:52:08,840 --> 02:52:10,710 eventually one day as well. 3121 02:52:10,710 --> 02:52:15,290 And I appreciate before we go to anybody else, I just tell you, 3122 02:52:15,290 --> 02:52:19,190 I honestly wasn't aware of even other options for the office. 3123 02:52:19,190 --> 02:52:22,300 And I kind of voiced that the last time we talked about it. 3124 02:52:22,300 --> 02:52:27,760 If the well is critical, I would totally support even if it winds 3125 02:52:27,760 --> 02:52:30,350 up being a smaller footprint of having the well, 3126 02:52:30,350 --> 02:52:32,150 but I don't know. 3127 02:52:32,150 --> 02:52:32,990 It's a delicate thing. 3128 02:52:32,990 --> 02:52:34,870 And so that's why I told him we'll bring it back. 3129 02:52:34,870 --> 02:52:36,350 Do you want to speak. 3130 02:52:36,350 --> 02:52:38,270 I don't know if anybody else has an immediate question. 3131 02:52:38,270 --> 02:52:39,170 So if you will. 3132 02:52:39,170 --> 02:52:41,140 Yeah just hit that button and you may want to pull 3133 02:52:41,140 --> 02:52:42,380 it up to where it's closer. 3134 02:52:42,380 --> 02:52:44,000 Just no, not that part. 3135 02:52:44,000 --> 02:52:46,660 It's always so confusing that just grab it right there 3136 02:52:46,660 --> 02:52:48,260 by that green microphone that. 3137 02:52:48,260 --> 02:52:49,400 OK, grab it. 3138 02:52:49,400 --> 02:52:50,480 Grab it right here. 3139 02:52:50,480 --> 02:52:51,530 Look down, grab it. 3140 02:52:51,530 --> 02:52:54,130 No, you see the green light. 3141 02:52:54,130 --> 02:52:54,650 This one. 3142 02:52:54,650 --> 02:52:55,310 Yes, sir. 3143 02:52:55,310 --> 02:52:58,030 OK, just raise that up to where we can hear you better. 3144 02:52:58,030 --> 02:52:58,860 There you go. 3145 02:52:58,860 --> 02:52:59,360 That way. 3146 02:52:59,360 --> 02:53:00,710 I just wanted to make sure we could hear you. 3147 02:53:00,710 --> 02:53:01,210 Go ahead. 3148 02:53:01,210 --> 02:53:03,430 OK how about that. 3149 02:53:03,430 --> 02:53:04,710 OK I'm Cleo Heath. 3150 02:53:04,710 --> 02:53:09,160 I'm from East Milton and I am in Mr Smith's district. 3151 02:53:09,160 --> 02:53:15,340 I like Mr Smith and you all to know that 30 years ago, I tried 3152 02:53:15,340 --> 02:53:17,120 to buy this piece of property. 3153 02:53:17,120 --> 02:53:18,800 Then I'm trying to buy now. 3154 02:53:18,800 --> 02:53:20,960 And they said it was too valuable. 3155 02:53:20,960 --> 02:53:22,870 We got big plans for it. 3156 02:53:22,870 --> 02:53:28,270 OK, so I bought the piece of property on South Airport Road. 3157 02:53:28,270 --> 02:53:35,710 Now, as we speak, I have 3,000 and some houses in my district 3158 02:53:35,710 --> 02:53:37,160 coming in my district. 3159 02:53:37,160 --> 02:53:42,130 Now, besides the industrial stuff you all put on me. 3160 02:53:42,130 --> 02:53:48,610 And if Mr Smith mentioned that the industrial don't use as much 3161 02:53:48,610 --> 02:53:52,450 as the water as the residents, the industrial 3162 02:53:52,450 --> 02:53:56,510 uses twice the amount of water that I use in the residence. 3163 02:53:56,510 --> 02:54:00,440 We have prisons, we have two big prisons out there. 3164 02:54:00,440 --> 02:54:02,260 We have the County jail. 3165 02:54:02,260 --> 02:54:04,570 They're the biggest customers I have 3166 02:54:04,570 --> 02:54:08,230 and they are in the industrial park. 3167 02:54:08,230 --> 02:54:11,240 I have the boat company, the whole 9 yards. 3168 02:54:11,240 --> 02:54:17,330 You sold, y'all agreed to sell a piece of property to the ice 3169 02:54:17,330 --> 02:54:19,370 cream people in the new industrial 3170 02:54:19,370 --> 02:54:25,580 park for $50,000 an acre in the new industrial park. 3171 02:54:25,580 --> 02:54:29,690 OK, this piece of property I'm asking for. 3172 02:54:29,690 --> 02:54:35,780 Here's the new 87 extension North. 3173 02:54:35,780 --> 02:54:39,030 It takes it start from the top. 3174 02:54:39,030 --> 02:54:45,890 It takes feet off of it to 95 to the railroad track. 3175 02:54:45,890 --> 02:54:51,420 I'm still willing to buy it where the $115,000 come up with. 3176 02:54:51,420 --> 02:54:53,270 I have no idea. 3177 02:54:53,270 --> 02:54:59,370 They say somebody else appraised it. 3178 02:54:59,370 --> 02:55:02,340 Everything you have sold anywhere around 3179 02:55:02,340 --> 02:55:05,890 there is $39,000 an acre. 3180 02:55:05,890 --> 02:55:07,480 It's a County record. 3181 02:55:07,480 --> 02:55:10,170 I have proof of it right here. 3182 02:55:10,170 --> 02:55:16,090 My customers bought that piece of property that you're using. 3183 02:55:16,090 --> 02:55:19,980 My 9,200 customers bought that piece of property 3184 02:55:19,980 --> 02:55:24,570 that I'm asking to pay for. 3185 02:55:24,570 --> 02:55:32,320 I'll agree to pay for $50,000 an acre for it, but not 115. 3186 02:55:32,320 --> 02:55:35,260 But if you want me to pay 115 for it, 3187 02:55:35,260 --> 02:55:43,050 you vote on who votes for me to pay 115,000 or where 3188 02:55:43,050 --> 02:55:46,170 you'll sell it to me or not. 3189 02:55:46,170 --> 02:55:50,670 If you all have got any questions that I can answer, 3190 02:55:50,670 --> 02:55:52,570 I'd like to clear something up. 3191 02:55:52,570 --> 02:55:53,950 I know you all right. 3192 02:55:53,950 --> 02:55:58,890 As far as jails because that's a residential, but. 3193 02:55:58,890 --> 02:56:00,670 I want to clarify another thing. 3194 02:56:00,670 --> 02:56:05,910 As far as selling other companies 3195 02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:10,200 land at a discounted price is an incentive. 3196 02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:13,720 It's basically an incentive to bring in these jobs. 3197 02:56:13,720 --> 02:56:17,850 And there there's large job counts involved with that. 3198 02:56:17,850 --> 02:56:23,820 So we don't have to incentivize a local water company 3199 02:56:23,820 --> 02:56:27,780 to move to East Milton because you're here, 3200 02:56:27,780 --> 02:56:28,930 you're already East. 3201 02:56:28,930 --> 02:56:29,640 Milton water. 3202 02:56:29,640 --> 02:56:31,440 You're not going to say, well, we're 3203 02:56:31,440 --> 02:56:34,380 moving our Operation to Birmingham because somebody 3204 02:56:34,380 --> 02:56:36,180 will fill your spot. 3205 02:56:36,180 --> 02:56:40,200 So I'm just wanting to explain to you it's 3206 02:56:40,200 --> 02:56:42,630 not about fairness or unfair. 3207 02:56:42,630 --> 02:56:47,130 It's about getting the best job done for the citizens 3208 02:56:47,130 --> 02:56:50,580 of the County and bringing in New jobs 3209 02:56:50,580 --> 02:56:53,010 and bringing in those types of opportunities 3210 02:56:53,010 --> 02:56:56,670 is where we're stewards for the citizens of the County. 3211 02:56:56,670 --> 02:57:01,310 As far as you getting a new location in for an office, 3212 02:57:01,310 --> 02:57:04,990 I don't think anybody would argue that office space would be 3213 02:57:04,990 --> 02:57:08,980 best fitted just up the road on 87 and South Lynn 3214 02:57:08,980 --> 02:57:11,620 because you've got a nice little area right there. 3215 02:57:11,620 --> 02:57:14,930 That'd be that's a prime little piece of property. 3216 02:57:14,930 --> 02:57:17,140 It as well as I do as far as what 3217 02:57:17,140 --> 02:57:19,000 the future's going to bring. 3218 02:57:19,000 --> 02:57:21,880 So that's where I'm at with that. 3219 02:57:21,880 --> 02:57:25,730 OK let me answer some of your questions, Mr Smith. 3220 02:57:25,730 --> 02:57:29,800 First thing is, I also hire employees 3221 02:57:29,800 --> 02:57:32,200 that belongs to this County. 3222 02:57:32,200 --> 02:57:36,400 The reason why we need this piece of property 3223 02:57:36,400 --> 02:57:39,670 here is we need to put a well on it. 3224 02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:42,490 You and the rest of the board. 3225 02:57:42,490 --> 02:57:47,530 As of right now, I have 3,000 houses coming in my district 3226 02:57:47,530 --> 02:57:50,330 plus all the industrial. 3227 02:57:50,330 --> 02:57:51,650 You all putting in there. 3228 02:57:51,650 --> 02:57:54,040 I can't supply water. 3229 02:57:54,040 --> 02:57:57,920 No commissioner, no Hill builder. 3230 02:57:57,920 --> 02:58:02,110 Nobody has come in East Milton and asked 3231 02:58:02,110 --> 02:58:06,623 for water or a subdivision that I hadn't provided nobody. 3232 02:58:06,623 --> 02:58:09,480 3233 02:58:09,480 --> 02:58:11,950 Now a bottling company. 3234 02:58:11,950 --> 02:58:13,350 Everything coming in. 3235 02:58:13,350 --> 02:58:14,770 I can handle the water. 3236 02:58:14,770 --> 02:58:18,870 We did that by planning for the future. 3237 02:58:18,870 --> 02:58:24,940 If we stay where we're at now, I don't get a new well, 3238 02:58:24,940 --> 02:58:26,260 I don't have no property. 3239 02:58:26,260 --> 02:58:29,170 I can't put a well down there where you're talking about. 3240 02:58:29,170 --> 02:58:31,030 It bleeds off the Hickory Hamlet. 3241 02:58:31,030 --> 02:58:32,860 Well, it's not there. 3242 02:58:32,860 --> 02:58:38,760 My engineer tells me that is the best place for the well. 3243 02:58:38,760 --> 02:58:40,960 So that's one of the things. 3244 02:58:40,960 --> 02:58:44,520 And as far as the Office is not just the office, 3245 02:58:44,520 --> 02:58:47,000 we'll have a warehouse behind it. 3246 02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:52,750 If you go in my district in East Milton on South Airport Road, 3247 02:58:52,750 --> 02:58:58,050 you will see my small building that my office is in. 3248 02:58:58,050 --> 02:59:01,870 Behind that building, you will see a no portable building. 3249 02:59:01,870 --> 02:59:05,100 That's where I have to keep all my EPA records, 3250 02:59:05,100 --> 02:59:09,730 water management records and everything else. 3251 02:59:09,730 --> 02:59:15,940 There's my office in the industrial part. 3252 02:59:15,940 --> 02:59:18,400 Would have a warehouse in the back of it 3253 02:59:18,400 --> 02:59:20,860 to house that and all of our records 3254 02:59:20,860 --> 02:59:24,700 for water management and EPA and anybody else 3255 02:59:24,700 --> 02:59:26,800 that wants to look at them. 3256 02:59:26,800 --> 02:59:32,170 Every building in the industrial park has an office in it. 3257 02:59:32,170 --> 02:59:34,660 Every one of them. 3258 02:59:34,660 --> 02:59:40,150 So I don't see where a office is a problem in industrial park, 3259 02:59:40,150 --> 02:59:46,960 which I will say again, my 9,200 customers 3260 02:59:46,960 --> 02:59:51,310 bought that piece of property to start with their tax money. 3261 02:59:51,310 --> 02:59:55,510 And I would like for you to consider selling it 3262 02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:58,470 to the citizens of East Milton. 3263 02:59:58,470 --> 03:00:02,170 3264 03:00:02,170 --> 03:00:03,680 Want just one more point. 3265 03:00:03,680 --> 03:00:08,450 I just want for you to come and tell me 3266 03:00:08,450 --> 03:00:10,730 you've got a problem with your water pressure 3267 03:00:10,730 --> 03:00:12,090 and you're going to need this. 3268 03:00:12,090 --> 03:00:15,090 Well, I just I would need to work off of a study. 3269 03:00:15,090 --> 03:00:17,750 I'd have to work off of something saying, 3270 03:00:17,750 --> 03:00:20,670 not just hearsay as far as what your engineer said, 3271 03:00:20,670 --> 03:00:24,590 and this is the best place this is. 3272 03:00:24,590 --> 03:00:26,870 I would rather you come up and give us 3273 03:00:26,870 --> 03:00:29,220 something harder than that and just saying, well, 3274 03:00:29,220 --> 03:00:30,297 this is what we need. 3275 03:00:30,297 --> 03:00:31,530 And this is what we're going to need. 3276 03:00:31,530 --> 03:00:33,980 What kind of hardness would you like, Mr Smith. 3277 03:00:33,980 --> 03:00:36,840 Pardon what kind of hardness would you like. 3278 03:00:36,840 --> 03:00:40,860 Hardness well, whatever you said, 3279 03:00:40,860 --> 03:00:45,260 you want some hard information or something. 3280 03:00:45,260 --> 03:00:48,000 Like, I'd like some better facts on it, 3281 03:00:48,000 --> 03:00:50,100 rather than have to cut that microphone. 3282 03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:51,030 We're going to be echoing. 3283 03:00:51,030 --> 03:00:52,730 Just cut it when I'm talking. 3284 03:00:52,730 --> 03:00:56,300 And then when you go to talk, there you go. 3285 03:00:56,300 --> 03:00:59,420 What I'm saying is you coming up and saying your engineers 3286 03:00:59,420 --> 03:01:02,820 say this is the best place that you could get the water. 3287 03:01:02,820 --> 03:01:05,930 And I mean, I'd have to see something 3288 03:01:05,930 --> 03:01:11,300 backing that up rather than just saying, 3289 03:01:11,300 --> 03:01:13,730 I'd like to see it in back up. 3290 03:01:13,730 --> 03:01:17,010 I'm just trying to say I'm not going to do this on the fly. 3291 03:01:17,010 --> 03:01:20,720 This is something that I'm not going to do it on the fly. 3292 03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:22,440 This is something we're going to study. 3293 03:01:22,440 --> 03:01:26,160 Instead of saying Yeah, Cleo needs some land, 3294 03:01:26,160 --> 03:01:27,780 let's go ahead and hand it to him. 3295 03:01:27,780 --> 03:01:31,610 And it's just not that easy because it 3296 03:01:31,610 --> 03:01:37,730 is a little more complicated and that because it's 3297 03:01:37,730 --> 03:01:39,590 not an easy ask. 3298 03:01:39,590 --> 03:01:40,950 I'm sure you have them. 3299 03:01:40,950 --> 03:01:45,210 3300 03:01:45,210 --> 03:01:49,500 Mr Chairman, Mr Ryan did on the I'm 3301 03:01:49,500 --> 03:01:52,090 looking at the diagram that's attached to the back up. 3302 03:01:52,090 --> 03:01:53,560 So it's got a 10 point. 3303 03:01:53,560 --> 03:01:57,730 10.02 acres that's highlighted, but I don't see. 3304 03:01:57,730 --> 03:01:59,550 Can you help me understand. 3305 03:01:59,550 --> 03:02:01,710 You're talking about parsing the couple 3306 03:02:01,710 --> 03:02:04,900 acres off of that 10 10 acres. 3307 03:02:04,900 --> 03:02:06,450 That's highlighted. 3308 03:02:06,450 --> 03:02:07,980 Yeah the. 3309 03:02:07,980 --> 03:02:09,850 And are we talking what's to the Middle East. 3310 03:02:09,850 --> 03:02:13,330 The proposal was if you look at the highlighted part, 3311 03:02:13,330 --> 03:02:18,160 that's basically the square South of the retention pond. 3312 03:02:18,160 --> 03:02:21,035 That is about roughly 9 to 10 acres. 3313 03:02:21,035 --> 03:02:24,060 3314 03:02:24,060 --> 03:02:25,290 All right. 3315 03:02:25,290 --> 03:02:27,730 There's a parcel highlighted and outlined in red, 3316 03:02:27,730 --> 03:02:29,410 but then there's the parcel that's shaded. 3317 03:02:29,410 --> 03:02:32,110 Yeah, the parcel that's shaded the map is inverted. 3318 03:02:32,110 --> 03:02:34,960 It should be rotated 90 degrees to the left. 3319 03:02:34,960 --> 03:02:40,530 But the partial that's shaded the light blue was what I had 3320 03:02:40,530 --> 03:02:43,110 come up with as we were talking about, hey, 3321 03:02:43,110 --> 03:02:46,830 if this met your needs, it would still give us about a 3 and 1/2 3322 03:02:46,830 --> 03:02:50,010 to four acres over there with the road frontage 3323 03:02:50,010 --> 03:02:51,750 beside the retention pond. 3324 03:02:51,750 --> 03:02:55,290 I was just trying to again, be the Waymaker 3325 03:02:55,290 --> 03:02:57,960 of what they needed, but also maintain 3326 03:02:57,960 --> 03:02:59,170 some industrial property. 3327 03:02:59,170 --> 03:03:01,690 And that was the best idea I could come up with. 3328 03:03:01,690 --> 03:03:05,340 Yeah, I just wasn't sure because it didn't specify that 3329 03:03:05,340 --> 03:03:07,950 on the drawing or on the map. 3330 03:03:07,950 --> 03:03:12,810 I appreciate your efforts to try to provide some solution. 3331 03:03:12,810 --> 03:03:15,480 I guess where I have some pause is I do have concern 3332 03:03:15,480 --> 03:03:18,220 about value of land per acre. 3333 03:03:18,220 --> 03:03:20,610 No doubt that the County has the ability 3334 03:03:20,610 --> 03:03:23,710 to make adjustments to that based on the needs 3335 03:03:23,710 --> 03:03:24,890 analysis of the community. 3336 03:03:24,890 --> 03:03:28,810 Whether it be a water purveyor or whether it be the jobs 3337 03:03:28,810 --> 03:03:30,050 that a business will bring in. 3338 03:03:30,050 --> 03:03:32,270 We have the ability to take that into consideration. 3339 03:03:32,270 --> 03:03:35,260 I think we certainly should. 3340 03:03:35,260 --> 03:03:39,430 I will say that our industrial land is highly valuable 3341 03:03:39,430 --> 03:03:42,370 and highly desirable right now. 3342 03:03:42,370 --> 03:03:46,220 So I would have to have some evidence as well. 3343 03:03:46,220 --> 03:03:47,510 And have to have some discussions. 3344 03:03:47,510 --> 03:03:51,190 And, sir, I would just. 3345 03:03:51,190 --> 03:03:52,750 Just my opinion. 3346 03:03:52,750 --> 03:03:55,270 Rather than have this put on the board for discussion 3347 03:03:55,270 --> 03:03:57,640 out in the open where we don't really know 3348 03:03:57,640 --> 03:03:59,560 exactly all the reasons why. 3349 03:03:59,560 --> 03:04:01,330 I would prefer that you come to me 3350 03:04:01,330 --> 03:04:04,000 and have the conversation say, OK, this is what this is all 3351 03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:05,300 of the reasons why we need it. 3352 03:04:05,300 --> 03:04:06,470 So when I come into the board room, 3353 03:04:06,470 --> 03:04:09,980 I have a little bit easier idea to say, hey guys, 3354 03:04:09,980 --> 03:04:11,800 this is why I support it because I've 3355 03:04:11,800 --> 03:04:13,310 been given all of the facts. 3356 03:04:13,310 --> 03:04:14,020 Here's the study. 3357 03:04:14,020 --> 03:04:16,300 So this is where our well needs to be. 3358 03:04:16,300 --> 03:04:18,170 I have some concerns. 3359 03:04:18,170 --> 03:04:20,410 I mean, there's some distances you have to be from a well 3360 03:04:20,410 --> 03:04:21,770 for other development. 3361 03:04:21,770 --> 03:04:23,930 And I wonder if that causes some problems. 3362 03:04:23,930 --> 03:04:27,520 So until we really have all of the information, 3363 03:04:27,520 --> 03:04:29,560 I don't necessarily think this is the best way 3364 03:04:29,560 --> 03:04:31,570 to try to handle it right now. 3365 03:04:31,570 --> 03:04:33,940 So I would just say I would invite you to come back, set 3366 03:04:33,940 --> 03:04:35,740 an appointment with me and provide 3367 03:04:35,740 --> 03:04:38,510 me a list of all your current locations that you have. 3368 03:04:38,510 --> 03:04:41,560 Why your engineer says this is the ideal location 3369 03:04:41,560 --> 03:04:44,590 versus another parcel, and then help 3370 03:04:44,590 --> 03:04:46,420 me become more comfortable on trying 3371 03:04:46,420 --> 03:04:48,580 to make a reasonable decision. 3372 03:04:48,580 --> 03:04:49,490 I'd be glad to. 3373 03:04:49,490 --> 03:04:50,900 Thank you, sir. 3374 03:04:50,900 --> 03:04:53,210 And Mr Wright, I appreciate that. 3375 03:04:53,210 --> 03:04:55,570 Honestly, I thought I was kind of the last one 3376 03:04:55,570 --> 03:04:59,660 to the table as far as maybe those conversations. 3377 03:04:59,660 --> 03:05:03,970 And so I may have speculated wrong, but because I knew it had 3378 03:05:03,970 --> 03:05:05,980 come up a few months ago or something and Kyle Holly 3379 03:05:05,980 --> 03:05:09,710 was working on it, but I fully understand that. 3380 03:05:09,710 --> 03:05:12,880 So Cleo, it may be best then if just today it 3381 03:05:12,880 --> 03:05:16,070 sounds like we take no action. 3382 03:05:16,070 --> 03:05:19,480 But if within this week or next week or I 3383 03:05:19,480 --> 03:05:21,190 mean really on the way out, if you'll go over there 3384 03:05:21,190 --> 03:05:25,120 to our office and try to just get on the calendar for any 3385 03:05:25,120 --> 03:05:27,940 of the commissioners that you haven't met with 3386 03:05:27,940 --> 03:05:29,480 and sit down with them. 3387 03:05:29,480 --> 03:05:33,340 And that way, maybe they have a little bit more 3388 03:05:33,340 --> 03:05:35,000 robust conversation with you. 3389 03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:39,040 I mean, I think there's no doubt everybody on this board 3390 03:05:39,040 --> 03:05:42,880 wants to make sure that we work with you all in any way 3391 03:05:42,880 --> 03:05:47,230 possible to make sure that you can provide water. 3392 03:05:47,230 --> 03:05:49,300 It just sounds like they may not have 3393 03:05:49,300 --> 03:05:52,310 had quite as much information and be able to make 3394 03:05:52,310 --> 03:05:53,640 an important decision. 3395 03:05:53,640 --> 03:05:56,720 So if you'll just go over there and try to get on the calendars 3396 03:05:56,720 --> 03:05:58,610 to meet with these gentlemen and then 3397 03:05:58,610 --> 03:06:01,760 we'll see as far as if this is something 3398 03:06:01,760 --> 03:06:03,730 that we're able to bring back at the July meeting. 3399 03:06:03,730 --> 03:06:06,830 3400 03:06:06,830 --> 03:06:08,180 I'll give her that. 3401 03:06:08,180 --> 03:06:09,000 Yes, sir. 3402 03:06:09,000 --> 03:06:11,510 I'm sorry about holding you up so long today. 3403 03:06:11,510 --> 03:06:13,140 All right, sir. 3404 03:06:13,140 --> 03:06:14,370 Sorry, Cleo. 3405 03:06:14,370 --> 03:06:16,080 He had a quick comment. 3406 03:06:16,080 --> 03:06:16,940 I'm sorry. 3407 03:06:16,940 --> 03:06:17,570 That's OK. 3408 03:06:17,570 --> 03:06:20,000 I will not be here the rest of the week. 3409 03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:23,580 But if you go over to my office and get it set up next week, 3410 03:06:23,580 --> 03:06:25,130 I'll be glad to meet with you. 3411 03:06:25,130 --> 03:06:27,260 I didn't know what you was coming for. 3412 03:06:27,260 --> 03:06:30,780 I know you was wanting some land and put a tower wale there. 3413 03:06:30,780 --> 03:06:32,750 That's all I know about. 3414 03:06:32,750 --> 03:06:34,380 When you ask for something like that, 3415 03:06:34,380 --> 03:06:36,380 it wouldn't hurt to meet with all of us 3416 03:06:36,380 --> 03:06:39,290 so we know more about what you really want. 3417 03:06:39,290 --> 03:06:40,970 OK OK. 3418 03:06:40,970 --> 03:06:41,610 Yes, sir. 3419 03:06:41,610 --> 03:06:42,130 Thank you. 3420 03:06:42,130 --> 03:06:42,630 All right. 3421 03:06:42,630 --> 03:06:45,620 So we'll just take no action on item number two, 3422 03:06:45,620 --> 03:06:51,380 and that takes us to operations and safety report. 3423 03:06:51,380 --> 03:06:55,670 And as you gentlemen look over that, there are six items. 3424 03:06:55,670 --> 03:06:57,560 And I'll give you all just a minute to let me know 3425 03:06:57,560 --> 03:07:01,830 if there are any that need further discussion. 3426 03:07:01,830 --> 03:07:05,310 I do know that if there are questions for Shannon 3427 03:07:05,310 --> 03:07:07,590 and Bridget, they're here. 3428 03:07:07,590 --> 03:07:10,500 I'll just highlight as you all continue to look 3429 03:07:10,500 --> 03:07:11,560 at that for just a moment. 3430 03:07:11,560 --> 03:07:15,870 I just want to say that I am very excited about item number 3431 03:07:15,870 --> 03:07:19,470 3, which is a turn lane construction there on McCullough 3432 03:07:19,470 --> 03:07:21,220 highway at pace road. 3433 03:07:21,220 --> 03:07:26,340 This is one of those things that again, has been many, many years 3434 03:07:26,340 --> 03:07:28,060 of in the making. 3435 03:07:28,060 --> 03:07:34,260 It will not only improve a very serious traffic impediment 3436 03:07:34,260 --> 03:07:38,340 in the morning time when folks are taking their kids to school 3437 03:07:38,340 --> 03:07:42,120 there at SS Dickson, but it will also should greatly improve 3438 03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:44,410 drainage at that intersection. 3439 03:07:44,410 --> 03:07:46,230 But this is just one of the things 3440 03:07:46,230 --> 03:07:47,910 where I tell people a lot of times government 3441 03:07:47,910 --> 03:07:49,500 will get it done. 3442 03:07:49,500 --> 03:07:53,620 It's just not at the speed when folks call you about hey, 3443 03:07:53,620 --> 03:07:56,790 I've got a problem, quite frankly, this is an issue that 3444 03:07:56,790 --> 03:08:02,460 myself and staff, as far back as three public works directors 3445 03:08:02,460 --> 03:08:03,310 ago worked on. 3446 03:08:03,310 --> 03:08:05,200 So it's just it's a heavy lift. 3447 03:08:05,200 --> 03:08:08,193 It seems small because we do bigger ones. 3448 03:08:08,193 --> 03:08:09,660 But any time you talk about something that's 3449 03:08:09,660 --> 03:08:13,560 almost $1 million I just I pretty I appreciate 3450 03:08:13,560 --> 03:08:14,620 you guys supporting it. 3451 03:08:14,620 --> 03:08:18,580 It is obviously this is a local thing for my district. 3452 03:08:18,580 --> 03:08:19,930 It'll affect a lot of people. 3453 03:08:19,930 --> 03:08:23,470 But I just hope that folks will understand about the patience. 3454 03:08:23,470 --> 03:08:28,360 You it takes time to get plans and budget this much money. 3455 03:08:28,360 --> 03:08:31,770 And Michael, thank you for I know you and Rebecca both 3456 03:08:31,770 --> 03:08:33,870 and tangent because like you said this actually 3457 03:08:33,870 --> 03:08:37,740 goes way back to even the days of Roger Blaylock 3458 03:08:37,740 --> 03:08:38,650 working with me on this. 3459 03:08:38,650 --> 03:08:40,320 But commissioner Smith. 3460 03:08:40,320 --> 03:08:46,480 Yes and it's $762,000 for a turn lane. 3461 03:08:46,480 --> 03:08:49,290 That's eye opening for the citizens for them 3462 03:08:49,290 --> 03:08:55,560 to see that road construction is very high. 3463 03:08:55,560 --> 03:09:02,490 1.4 million for mine over there in East Milton at airport 3464 03:09:02,490 --> 03:09:07,810 and highway 90 just for an upgrade to the intersection, 3465 03:09:07,810 --> 03:09:10,270 $1.4 million. 3466 03:09:10,270 --> 03:09:13,920 So when people think that the county has the money 3467 03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:18,600 to go ahead and start jumping on these road projects, 3468 03:09:18,600 --> 03:09:22,890 you better think again because it's a big lift 3469 03:09:22,890 --> 03:09:25,270 to even get a turn lane done. 3470 03:09:25,270 --> 03:09:27,460 So that's my point. 3471 03:09:27,460 --> 03:09:31,230 I appreciate it and Thank you for your work 3472 03:09:31,230 --> 03:09:34,200 being the champion for highway 90 out there 3473 03:09:34,200 --> 03:09:35,320 through East Milton. 3474 03:09:35,320 --> 03:09:39,760 And I can drive a dozer enough just to get it to move. 3475 03:09:39,760 --> 03:09:41,310 I'll volunteer my services whenever 3476 03:09:41,310 --> 03:09:44,140 you get them to give us the go ahead to four lane down there. 3477 03:09:44,140 --> 03:09:47,310 So I'm just letting just floating that out there. 3478 03:09:47,310 --> 03:09:48,430 I'm not going to bite. 3479 03:09:48,430 --> 03:09:49,410 I'm not going to bite. 3480 03:09:49,410 --> 03:09:52,570 Just let me sink in that you can. 3481 03:09:52,570 --> 03:09:53,070 You can. 3482 03:09:53,070 --> 03:09:56,260 You can take up my invitations to come over and work out. 3483 03:09:56,260 --> 03:09:58,750 Now when you get that four lane fixed, 3484 03:09:58,750 --> 03:10:00,990 I'll be able to get there. 3485 03:10:00,990 --> 03:10:01,720 All right. 3486 03:10:01,720 --> 03:10:04,510 Anybody that had any questions or comments, 3487 03:10:04,510 --> 03:10:08,130 things that needed to be discussed on items 1 through 6. 3488 03:10:08,130 --> 03:10:08,740 All right. 3489 03:10:08,740 --> 03:10:11,700 Not seeing any, then we will move without objection 3490 03:10:11,700 --> 03:10:15,660 to approve items 1 through 6 on operation and safety report. 3491 03:10:15,660 --> 03:10:17,740 And again, lastly on the meeting list, 3492 03:10:17,740 --> 03:10:21,360 I've actually covered the two today earlier 3493 03:10:21,360 --> 03:10:24,990 and then the committee, the next committee 3494 03:10:24,990 --> 03:10:30,940 meeting, normal Monday committee meeting will be on July 8. 3495 03:10:30,940 --> 03:10:34,360 And so just remind you, gentlemen, that at 1:00, 3496 03:10:34,360 --> 03:10:37,470 roughly an hour and a half, we will reconvene 3497 03:10:37,470 --> 03:10:41,940 for budget workshop and miss Sabrina will 3498 03:10:41,940 --> 03:10:45,300 be our guest speaker today. 3499 03:10:45,300 --> 03:10:46,980 Our highlight our keynote speaker 3500 03:10:46,980 --> 03:10:48,040 is what I was looking for. 3501 03:10:48,040 --> 03:10:48,310 All right. 3502 03:10:48,310 --> 03:10:49,210 Anything else for you all. 3503 03:10:49,210 --> 03:10:50,170 Finally ready to adjourn? 3504 03:10:50,170 --> 03:10:52,810 This one or two of you all got to broke your jacket off. 3505 03:10:52,810 --> 03:10:55,380 I'm sweating over here like crazy with the ACL. 3506 03:10:55,380 --> 03:10:55,960 All right. 3507 03:10:55,960 --> 03:10:57,790 Thank you, Commissioner Caulkins. 3508 03:10:57,790 --> 03:10:59,410 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 3509 03:10:59,410 --> 03:11:02,490 I just want to make a comment that you're 3510 03:11:02,490 --> 03:11:03,640 running a good meeting. 3511 03:11:03,640 --> 03:11:04,980 You're doing a good job. 3512 03:11:04,980 --> 03:11:07,120 And so I want to compliment you. 3513 03:11:07,120 --> 03:11:11,130 I know it's not easy to be a chairman dealing with fights 3514 03:11:11,130 --> 03:11:14,250 with the board and people yelling out in the audience 3515 03:11:14,250 --> 03:11:15,610 and all of that. 3516 03:11:15,610 --> 03:11:18,430 So to say it's easy, it's not easy. 3517 03:11:18,430 --> 03:11:21,850 And a lot of folks, think they can do it better. 3518 03:11:21,850 --> 03:11:25,080 But I would say I've been a chairman before when 3519 03:11:25,080 --> 03:11:29,940 Bob Cole wasn't here and when Commissioner Parker wasn't here 3520 03:11:29,940 --> 03:11:32,920 and Commissioner Wright was the chairman also. 3521 03:11:32,920 --> 03:11:35,790 And it's not an easy job, but I believe 3522 03:11:35,790 --> 03:11:37,000 that you're doing a good job. 3523 03:11:37,000 --> 03:11:40,140 And I just want to compliment you, Mr Chair. 3524 03:11:40,140 --> 03:11:41,560 Well, I'll take any compliment I can get. 3525 03:11:41,560 --> 03:11:42,770 I appreciate it. 3526 03:11:42,770 --> 03:11:43,270 All right. 3527 03:11:43,270 --> 03:11:44,940 We're going to go ahead and convene the meeting 3528 03:11:44,940 --> 03:11:46,210 and the meeting is adjourned. 3529 03:11:46,210 --> 03:11:47,930 Thank you. 3530 03:11:47,930 --> 03:13:10,000