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My uncle Turner's
daughter Leroy. Did you see Marjorie

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lost her husband? Marie Turner.
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» So, at 6:01

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joint meeting of the town school board
and the town select board.

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We'll have an agenda review about the
flag. We'll do updates for both sides

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and then go over preliminary budget
factors

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comments and motion to agenda. Do we
have any changes to the agenda?

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To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it

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stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.

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Um, welcome Diane. I think you're the
only new person at the table, but you're

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not new. But,
um, okay. Do you guys want to start with

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updates?
>> Um, well, we could do several updates.

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Talk about common updates. We could also
about the school um act 73 a little bit

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um and that process is moving along um
down in the state house. Uh I do know

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that the districting task force had
another meeting today. Uh the couple

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things that I've heard coming from the
school districtricting task force is um

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one of their uh thought processes was
around um using county lines you know 14

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or 15 county 14 or 15 districts but I
think today they were going to discuss

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more about
utilizing the CTE more as kind of parts

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of the districts.
probably about 17 roughly 17 at that

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point. I know is just as tuned in or
maybe even more at times tuned in than I

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am process but um that's just something
that I heard about that now starting to

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talk talk about the CP process become a
very central part of education at this

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point connecting the districts to the CP
is something that they're starting to

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explore

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everything else on that side it's really
going to alling on these maps coming

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through and the legislation actually
deciding on a map

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if any of the three maps are acceptable
to move forward.

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On the town side, we're still moving
forward on some projects. We're moving

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forward on the hourglass that seems to
be uh still on schedule for 2026 coming

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up next construction season.
There will be some traffic delays and

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traffic pattern changes around Route 7
and the hourglass area. Um, from what I

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hear, they are planning on trying to
keep at least one lane open on Route 7

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at all times coming through that area.
Um, the north is open and the southbound

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is utilized going around the new road.
That's preliminary kind of process on

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that.
We're still on the town site discussing

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a multigenerational recreation facility.
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bit to where I've been discussing with a
couple different groups

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to maybe different ways we can partner
with them and have them involved in

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either everything from groundbreaking to
management or just management. So I have

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two different companies I've been talks
with them about. hasn't gone very far

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where they received our feasibility
study and now on our side I believe

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we're coming up with an RFP and start
exploring more on how we actually want

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to move forward with the project we want
private partnership which I think really

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is the most feasible way for us to
actually get this done or how we want to

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go through so there'll be more
discussions

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with myself and the select board on
exactly the process that we take care of

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but that's still well in the works and
we still really looking forward to

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seeing how we can make that happen for

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one of the and also it's not directly
but it directly very directly affects

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the new interstate
rebuild um that's literally a year ahead

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of time that was not scheduled to be
done till next year and I can't

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officially say that it will be done this
year but if you all look at it it's

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» that whole new bridge and all that.
Yeah. So that to me I could see them

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being done in a couple of weeks because
they're tearing up the last bits and

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pieces that are not going to be used any
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Like for instance, the the southbound
entrance to 89 coming from Chimney

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Corners is literally a clover on the
inside of the old

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rerouted coming off
the roof.

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So, uh that's a change. So, you know,
left.

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So, yeah. And uh um That's good news.

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» Amy and Chris and anybody else who wants
to jump into this deep end of the court,

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but do we have any sense as to how the
new legislation is going to impact,

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you know, the traditional December 1st
time frame as when the tax department,

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» there shouldn't be any impact. They're
saying December 1st. So I don't see

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anything coming from the state

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» positively.

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» Right. Now I know that the actual tax
rate was less

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» last year.

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Wild card.
I think that's going to also depend on

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the state level that's going to be
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that was from two different sources put
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tax rate if you would.
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on that whether that happens again in
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We were told not to I was just going to
say on it.

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» We're seeing the agency of
transportation really in a deficit with

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their budget now. So money just like on
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going to be some very hard decision
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28 28 28 so there's a couple years more
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yeah, pretty much this year 27. Yeah. So
we'd have

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» Yeah. One more fiscal year of something
needing to be done or you could see

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another.
Yeah. Actually two reality.

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So, it's not likely going to be
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taxes at 2026 costs.
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this current Yes. the next one or two as

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a wild card
that's the most I want to I guess

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it depends there's a lot too on December
3rd we all go down for a

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annual uh really you know they call it a
budget over it's really it's like a the

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state economists come in and give kind
of like a health of the of the state

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budget and what what revenues look Are
they up now? Good news is this last

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couple few years well all the way back
or forward have been in the positive

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direction. Um but you can't hear that on
December 3rd. I don't like

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transportation for instance if you all
saw took a hit just recently because um

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truck sales are down. Literally I was
talking transportation and that's that's

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a big factor with truck sales down
because the cost of living trucks. So so

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high
on grand.

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So it's had a profound impact.
You got vehicle payment as much as your

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mortgage.

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» They do so far. In a couple months that
could could change, but hopefully not.

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in your circles, have you heard any
glimmers of hope?

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you know, there's the federal title of
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likely we have just what we
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it's likely that many of those title
funds will be eliminated or

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reduced
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you know I think
we all know that healthare is up again.

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I think our revenues look pretty steady

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and we've already started back and forth
with the state around our numbers. So,

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those aren't matching and they usually
don't. We have to go through a very

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lengthy process of back and forth.

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We have some other school updates. It
was a fabulous start to the school year.

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our work with um you know our teachers
collaboration

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professional development that's
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instruction

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we had a very successful summer on our
project speak to that a little bit

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» yeah all the storm water work is
complete you guys have storm water that

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you have

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a couple projects here and there.

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» Yeah, we um you know they just they did
their own bidding process and picked a

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contractor and we got one from Fairfield
called who did an excellent job. And the

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thing that I don't normally see out of
contractors which was much appreciated

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is at the end of the day they were
sweeping Avenue.

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» Nice. 5 5:30 at night after they had
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So, I thought that was it was nice that
they hired someone local for us, but it

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was also nice that they were just taking
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I thought that was cool. Um, and the
roof is done. Um, and that came in under

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budget, which was great. Um, so, um,
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we're just in the process of planning
what we're going to get done next

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summer. You know, we really only have an
8week in the summer and we need to

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increase the amperage coming into the
building. Um so that's going to be the

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first piece of next summer before we can
really do anything in there. Um because

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we have we're running sort of that
maximum capacity of what that building

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can handle. Um so that's going to be
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moving. So that'll start literally the
day school is up. It's a three-we

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process. you can't do it like during
vacation or and it's big cables, you

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know. So, um
time we have so we're gonna we may lose

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a little bit of time um in the beginning
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have to have a lot of people bring power
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We essentially have three more summers
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we're doing. So, we're going to try to
knock out as much of it as possible. Um

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All the windows will be delivered
shortly and they'll be ready to go. And

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they're going to start going in whenever
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Christmas week, they're going to put a
couple room windows in in February break

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and April. So the window projects going
really well. I'm just happy the roof got

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on before school opened and that storm
water project was really really good and

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easy to do. So good luck with yours. I'm
assuming yours are more widespread than

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just
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» it's all consuming right now.

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» No, honestly, there's really not. I
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hoping that, you know, insurance come
out. It's a struggle right now. We have

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obviously like everybody we have certain
regulations that we have to follow

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that we have to meet

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» a lot of it is public works.

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When is the first bond payment due on
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year one is just interest and year two
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between that will be adding 400k to the
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» what we're trying to do
some of our um storm

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and looking forward to being through the
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get 60 or 90 days now to we have some
money that we have set aside that is

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going to seed that fund utilizing
all our options and how we're going to

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» We were actually program. Our work was
350k and we only pay 35 of it which was

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great. And they also refunded us like
the permit fees which were about 5,000

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for even 6,000 for there.
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had to commit. You had to they were
running out of money

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» and only the people who were ready to do
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done because it's a fivey year window
that started last year. So because we

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were ready to go, we were able to access
that. also recently been uh we've had

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some grants that we've had to turn to
turn down due to not being reimbured.

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So even when you get grant money, it's
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schools as well.

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» Bouncing back to the whole
redistricting, do you guys have a

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preferred plan in place or you just kind
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» Well, you know, it's it's interesting
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you know, one they haven't
So we did a lot of work last spring and

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association said we'll come to you with
some proposals based on what we know

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about building usage and programming and
demographics and um transportation.

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They weren't interested and um and now
it it looks like there's been some

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movement of some districts, you know, to
sort of partner with other districts and

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then present their proposals
um to the task force, but to me it seems

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like it's not they're not interested,
right? Like if they were interested,

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they would have asked us, right?

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CTE

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customer of all three.
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» Are we primary to ethics? Is that how
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» Not necessarily. No.

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So, and you know, as we know,
um, even with having access to the CTS,

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we often still have students that are
waiting

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» really.
>> So, and that's common across many of the

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high schools that those CTS.
So, that's concerning to us that the CT,

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you know, divide Bington into one
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still.

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» No, but we do have some.

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» Yeah, it's not.
It's Fair. It's

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nursing
kids.

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I I don't know.
>> Cool. Okay. That was an option.

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» We don't go down there,
>> but we have students that go to St.

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» Yeah, we do. She played on the team. the
other team the other day. I saw it.

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Yeah. How does that work? I've never
heard of that.

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» We get a bill. We get a tuition bill
from them

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that we have to pay just like people in
North Georgia.

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» When I was on the school board, if you
didn't have a student coming from there

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to here and there to there to make it
even, you couldn't do it. So now you can

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pay for it.
>> Well, change.

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» Yes. So the new law is that
There's a lottery system where students

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can apply in a given time frame to
students from can apply to go to a

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different school within the lottery
system. The school doesn't have to

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accept them as long as they have so many
students participating in the lottery

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and
they um they say our student

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so
that works.

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» Oh, so even though this student's going
to say, "Oh, then she'll have to

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graduate with the milk."
>> No, but she's counted in our

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» So, we pay for it even though there's
not somebody coming here.

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» Yes.

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» Well, it's not. We We get the ADM, so we
get to count them as part of our advert.

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» So, no, we're not paying money.
>> Okay.

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» So,
Yeah, it's the lottery and it's very

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it's very small number of students.
>> How many do we have right now currently

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going to other schools that fill us?
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» that's tuition. That's different than
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» lottery.
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It's only high school students that can
participate.

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» It's changed since
It's hard to get in. I mean, there's

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students that apply that

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is very popular, but they're also kind
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seems

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basically two more months.

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have a very limited time frame.

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» So what's the plan after district?

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» Yeah. Once the once the district map is
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um then uh right now at the same time we
just started seeing the u voting wars.

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another committee to start talking about
voting wars within the districts. So

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they in conjunction with task force are
now starting to meet. Um and then after

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the district for when I think it's 2028
is when um the districts the new

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districts are supposed to take over
total

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handling
the school and all that stuff. There's a

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a very strict November 2027 is when they
would do the elections for the new

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boards. That new board will hire a
superintendent

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after the school year after year starts
and then those

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board will start

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» there's no details about how that's
going to happen.

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» Quite honestly, I would not say that
there's a

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very it's going to be fluid I think
>> well it guidance all these collective

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bargaining
right there's there's all sorts of like

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the debt how
service going to work so there's a lot

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of things
all these moving parts are going out

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there
>> five districts

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contract
>> absolutely different term lengths and

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ends
You know, as much as you think that

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might be the hardest part, it's probably
going to be the easiest part to come up

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with figuring out the rest of the
process. I think this year actually is

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going to be much harder than last year.
Last year was

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the process ahead of us is going to be
harder than the process that's

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» Chris. I was under the understanding
that the school board chair at the time

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is the person that's designated. That's
what I was at one meeting I went to that

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the current chair of the individual
schools would be the person that there

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wasn't an election.
>> I don't

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I don't believe that's the case. I know
discussion about that.

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» Yeah.
>> I don't think I don't think that's

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actually kind of set.
>> Okay. But there was discussion.

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» Yes.

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» Okay.

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So on the town um healthare obviously we
do know what our increase is going to be

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already%

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is much better than we were anticipating
a really sad thing to say

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what we thought but if you compound it
with last year we're looking

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health insurance.

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We obviously don't see that going away
anytime soon. It's almost like you can

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establish a 10% increase yearly pretty
much. Um the also a couple of the big

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things on the town side that we have we
have the department of public works

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building bond that's going to start
to make payments on that. Paving costs

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are going through the roof. We're
getting a lot less done, a lot more

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money. And um
staffing staffing is always most

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expensive
part of operation

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making sure our staff is
in a position where they don't want to

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stay working for the county.
>> We have seen

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great success with the police
department. So, are we at full or

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right now?

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» Yep.
Two in the last couple months. One is

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already doing their field training.
>> The hardest part with our with police

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department is a lateral move which from
one police department to another police

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department, you're talking at least six
months of just before they're actually

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an active working officer in the
community. And when we start looking at

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somebody who doesn't have any
credentials and has to go through the

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academy looking

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out there enforcing law
the the pipeline and the time frame of

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that onboarding process is a really hard
thing to plan for when you start

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retirements other

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staff is almost impossible

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much better than where we're at.
>> Much better than where we are. The

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decisions that have been made over the
last couple years with the police

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department have really made it much
easier for them to recruit and

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» at one point we're down to 11 officers
on the road due to injuries and

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retirements
out of the 17 offic.

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They're still doing a good job
>> even though they're down.

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» You wouldn't know it.
>> Back there.

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» The other uh Well, what do you want me
to segue?

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» No, I just want to I was going to segue
into SRO or

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» you ruined it.
>> Sorry.

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» No, no. Obviously, now would be the time
if there was any desire effort to put on

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a second
for us to start considering that

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throwing it out there. There hasn't been
any discussion. Yes or no?

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Right.

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» Agreed. I do think if there's going to
be a year where Congress actually able

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to accomplish some things, I would
expect the city's massive crime bill to

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come out, which I would expect to be a
plus for local police department.

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program.
So I think we should at least be ready

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to jump quickly if there is such an
opportunity in the next year year and a

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half

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if there's going to be any success.
I think it would be around

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the other topic I was hoping to talk a
little bit more about

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mentioned at the last school board
meeting

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looking at some resource sharing
collaboration between the district and

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utilizing each other
more for things that we can obviously

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coming out of the same taxpayers
pockets. Um, and if we can

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» another couple years.
>> Exactly. And if we can eliminate any

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redundancy or you know taking more money
than we need to because we're both doing

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the same thing

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about that next meeting.
from

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where
>> our cabinets.

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» Our cabinets of two
me and two others

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bring down resources. I think that

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at one time it was very successful
remember

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with um sharing electrical work and all
that years ago was when I first got on

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the board we were sharing
>> still

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Yeah, you're
>> always

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the local cont.

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» Yes, unfortunately

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not.

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electrician. We do have a new vehicle
maintenance

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» person

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that
we do have what seven or eight

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» and we have the facilities

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before. So that's certainly an area that
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We get to move to community.
>> Absolutely.

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» Um,
do we have any

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members that want to make comments?
Anything online?

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I will make a motion to

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» I assume we're not meeting on December
29th. That's the next day.

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» I won't be here, but