1 00:00:00,260 --> 00:00:03,260 >> Calling to order the August 2 00:00:03,780 --> 00:00:04,660 3rd. 3 00:00:04,660 --> 00:00:05,880 >> Meeting of this Start 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,880 Preservation Commission, 5 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,740 Mister. And can you please call 6 00:00:09,740 --> 00:00:11,740 the Roll? 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,880 >> Sallie pelts here, 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,520 Nick. Alas Robinson, 9 00:00:24,390 --> 00:00:26,390 Matt to rose 10 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:30,230 rather about men here. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,640 But tree check keeping excused 12 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:36,820 and Jordan are out there. 13 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:39,190 >> All right. We'll start with 14 00:00:39,190 --> 00:00:41,550 item number. Perfect. Yeah, 15 00:00:41,550 --> 00:00:43,480 she's all. There we go. 16 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:45,480 Perfect. Everybody's here. 17 00:00:46,490 --> 00:00:48,670 We'll start with the item. 18 00:00:48,670 --> 00:00:50,590 One to 6, 0, 1, 6, 1, 19 00:00:50,590 --> 00:00:51,680 resolution really into a 20 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,220 certificate certificate of 21 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:54,520 appropriateness for the infill 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,620 of one door at 2, 6, 6, 5, 23 00:00:56,620 --> 00:00:57,940 North Lake Drive in the North 24 00:00:57,940 --> 00:00:59,830 Pointe North Historic District 25 00:00:59,830 --> 00:01:01,290 for Anna Tims. Incorrect. 26 00:01:01,290 --> 00:01:02,590 Rick. Be. 27 00:01:02,590 --> 00:01:04,500 >> Kami. Could you call the 28 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:05,450 city channel? There you have 29 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:06,750 it. Set me up for a covered 30 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:08,750 porch sharing. Okay. 31 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:18,540 We're selling. 32 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:22,140 She's on online for the best 33 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:34,780 so long. It's just able to 34 00:01:34,780 --> 00:01:36,780 really work 35 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:42,530 is coming here 36 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:45,590 is this. 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,760 I'm with you. 38 00:01:53,430 --> 00:01:55,800 >> Just a couple of things. 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,260 That's not you know, if 40 00:01:56,260 --> 00:01:58,510 students solution solutions to 41 00:01:58,510 --> 00:02:00,510 that 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,800 and you just don't know 43 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,580 you used to that. 44 00:02:17,580 --> 00:02:20,110 >> Yeah, thanks for all right. 45 00:02:20,110 --> 00:02:21,790 Thanks. 46 00:02:21,790 --> 00:02:25,390 We now have to do that. 47 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:32,210 Yeah, I thought 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,440 we are we going. 49 00:02:37,610 --> 00:02:39,610 Michael, thank you. 50 00:02:42,670 --> 00:02:43,970 >> Here we go. We've got got 51 00:02:43,970 --> 00:02:46,970 the power point going. So 52 00:02:51,710 --> 00:02:53,600 so we've got the team, Michael 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,200 Reaves House and 1915, 54 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,600 foursquare for graft here, 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,520 front elevation. This is the 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,740 rear elevation, the west 57 00:03:01,740 --> 00:03:03,900 elevation. And they are 58 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:06,460 proposing removing one next to 59 00:03:06,460 --> 00:03:08,930 your door, which currently it's 60 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:11,930 just used for exterior storage. 61 00:03:11,980 --> 00:03:13,600 But they want to remove that an 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,380 infill, the opening to enlarge 63 00:03:15,380 --> 00:03:17,170 the kitchen area. 64 00:03:17,170 --> 00:03:19,560 So here's the ovation. As it is 65 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,600 existing with that door, 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,600 they would 67 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:26,730 remove that opening in fill it 68 00:03:26,730 --> 00:03:29,160 with stucco to match the 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,160 existing texture and color of 70 00:03:32,220 --> 00:03:33,330 the rear facade. It's not 71 00:03:33,330 --> 00:03:34,490 visible from the right of way. 72 00:03:34,490 --> 00:03:37,550 It is the rear facade. So staff 73 00:03:37,550 --> 00:03:38,620 is recommending approval with 74 00:03:38,620 --> 00:03:40,300 conditions and the conditions 75 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:42,850 just being that Noosa Colby, 76 00:03:42,850 --> 00:03:44,690 Portland, cement stucco know if 77 00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:46,340 this would be allowed and that 78 00:03:46,340 --> 00:03:48,270 this circle should match 79 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:50,560 the original stucco in terms of 80 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,960 texture, hardness and sickness. 81 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:55,570 >> All right. Can you go back 82 00:03:55,570 --> 00:03:56,840 to the original what it looks 83 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,840 like now, please? 84 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:02,880 Yeah, thank you. 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,640 That's stucco that blue. 86 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Yes, correctly to stop it. 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,740 It's hard to tell. 88 00:04:09,740 --> 00:04:10,860 And it's peeling a little bit, 89 00:04:10,860 --> 00:04:12,780 too. 90 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:15,180 The repair it anyway. 91 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,380 >> Many of the commissioners 92 00:04:17,380 --> 00:04:20,250 have questions on this matter. 93 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:21,660 Move approval. All right. 94 00:04:21,660 --> 00:04:23,390 To have a second second. 95 00:04:23,390 --> 00:04:25,660 All in favor. Aye. I'm all 96 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:26,710 right. 97 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:28,500 >> Moving on. 98 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:30,500 >> To item 2 to 6, 0, 4, 99 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:33,450 0, for resolution relating to a 100 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:34,660 certificate of appropriateness 101 00:04:34,660 --> 00:04:36,490 for new patio doors. And new 102 00:04:36,490 --> 00:04:38,750 deck at 107 West Brown Street 103 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:40,230 and the Brewers Hill Historic 104 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:43,900 District for Brew City BN Beast 105 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:44,800 Company. 106 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,270 Thank you. 107 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:48,310 >> So this is this is the 108 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:50,000 house. It's a second. 109 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,160 >> Pt 91 queen and located on 110 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,710 the corner of first and brown, 111 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:57,760 the front of the house faces 112 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,750 Brown Street. It does have this 113 00:04:59,750 --> 00:05:02,210 very large side yard. You can 114 00:05:02,210 --> 00:05:03,280 see the photograph on the left 115 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:05,200 shows the front of the house, 116 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,660 the photograph on the right 117 00:05:06,660 --> 00:05:08,510 shows the side yard, which is 118 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:09,940 on First Street. So this is 119 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:12,000 from first looking looking 120 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,510 towards the house. So it is 121 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:15,900 quite a large side yard. 122 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:17,480 They don't have a side yard. 123 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,380 On the other side. It's the 124 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:20,540 neighboring property on the 125 00:05:20,540 --> 00:05:22,540 West side. 126 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,750 So they're proposing this is 127 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:26,220 the existing and this is a 128 00:05:26,220 --> 00:05:28,150 mockup, a rendering of what 129 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:30,150 they're proposing to enlarge 130 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:32,120 that window opening on the bay 131 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,320 there and and and saw the deck. 132 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:38,250 The renderings not completely 133 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:40,350 accurate. The stairs in the 134 00:05:40,350 --> 00:05:42,580 plans, wouldn't, you know, 135 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:44,300 just go onto the grass there 136 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:45,100 series that would go on to the 137 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:47,410 existing the existing sidewalk, 138 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:49,160 which where this is the side 139 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,560 yard right here. Yeah, 140 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:54,190 his face is which direction 141 00:05:54,190 --> 00:05:55,680 this yard is on the court and 142 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,850 this is on first and grounds of 143 00:05:56,850 --> 00:05:58,420 the side yard faces First 144 00:05:58,420 --> 00:06:00,100 Street North First Street where 145 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:01,650 like Mark standing on First 146 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:02,940 Street looking at it. Yeah. 147 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:04,690 And Brown is to the to the 148 00:06:04,690 --> 00:06:06,690 right. 149 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:08,240 The front facade is to the to 150 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,240 the right around the corner. 151 00:06:12,270 --> 00:06:14,670 So the proposed DEC 152 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:19,290 would be 15 feet and a half by 153 00:06:19,290 --> 00:06:21,760 a deep by 13 and a half feet 154 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,960 wide 155 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,510 new wood deck, which would 156 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:25,690 consist of pressure treated 157 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:27,840 decking 4 by 4 posts to I-2 158 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:30,240 spindles one by 4 skirting 159 00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:35,160 the mold and rails which we 160 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,600 could work on with the 161 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,880 applicant to nail the final 162 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,870 design. So this is what the 163 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:44,730 public is proposed for the DEC, 164 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:45,910 the applicant and provide the 165 00:06:45,910 --> 00:06:48,390 exact specimens for the patio 166 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:49,870 door, though it is shown to be 167 00:06:49,870 --> 00:06:51,610 a sliding door. So we would 168 00:06:51,610 --> 00:06:53,490 need a little bit more details 169 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:56,850 on that were HPC to approve 170 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:58,850 that 171 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,370 tried to draw roughly the size 172 00:07:01,370 --> 00:07:04,260 of the deck adjacent to the 173 00:07:04,260 --> 00:07:05,510 present yards. So it would 174 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:07,150 extended pretty significantly 175 00:07:07,150 --> 00:07:09,550 into the side yard. 176 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:13,250 And as you can see on the 177 00:07:13,250 --> 00:07:15,250 rendering it almost 178 00:07:16,330 --> 00:07:17,870 to staff's mind, you know, 179 00:07:17,870 --> 00:07:19,570 flips the primary ovation and 180 00:07:19,570 --> 00:07:21,390 makes a side elevation appear 181 00:07:21,390 --> 00:07:22,960 to be of the primary front 182 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,420 facade, rather than a secondary 183 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:25,730 facade. 184 00:07:25,730 --> 00:07:27,400 The preservation guidelines for 185 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Brewers Hill states retain 186 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,580 exist, existing window and door 187 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:31,790 openings that are visible from 188 00:07:31,790 --> 00:07:33,520 the public right of way to 189 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,520 avoid enlarging openings. 190 00:07:37,310 --> 00:07:39,310 They also 191 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:42,500 advice to discuss avoid 192 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:43,640 discarding original doors and 193 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,930 windows that can be repaired or 194 00:07:44,930 --> 00:07:46,930 replaced. 195 00:07:50,110 --> 00:07:51,940 The saffeels at the proposed 196 00:07:51,940 --> 00:07:53,880 can the large COVID Ning don't 197 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,860 comply with the preservation 198 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:57,260 guidelines for the district and 199 00:07:57,260 --> 00:07:59,260 that the enlarged 200 00:07:59,490 --> 00:08:01,920 DEC would be proved 2 prominent 201 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,110 into visible from the side yard 202 00:08:04,110 --> 00:08:05,320 and adding a deck of that 203 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,810 location would detract from the 204 00:08:06,810 --> 00:08:08,910 actual front facade again 205 00:08:08,910 --> 00:08:10,110 making it appears of the side 206 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:12,330 elevation was the actual front 207 00:08:12,330 --> 00:08:14,330 recommend front elevation. 208 00:08:15,330 --> 00:08:17,840 Staff recommends that if the 209 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,220 deck is is desired at this 210 00:08:20,220 --> 00:08:21,950 location, that perhaps this 211 00:08:21,950 --> 00:08:24,520 would be a good compromise to 212 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,240 created or from this rear 213 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,870 window and add in health health 214 00:08:28,870 --> 00:08:30,700 shaped Hudak that would be 215 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:32,260 adjacent to the one story 216 00:08:32,260 --> 00:08:33,930 addition. That's kind of tucked 217 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:36,300 away behind that tree but have 218 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:37,140 a deck that would be roughly 219 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:39,510 the size of that addition that 220 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:41,150 could wrap around slightly and 221 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:43,610 connect to both the front and 222 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:46,230 back side walks roughly in the 223 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:48,330 in the shape shown here 224 00:08:48,330 --> 00:08:50,730 outlined in the red. 225 00:08:53,140 --> 00:08:54,410 So with the preservation 226 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:56,600 guidelines in mind at the 227 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,140 present proposal, staff 228 00:08:57,140 --> 00:08:58,940 recommends denial of the 229 00:08:58,940 --> 00:09:00,710 sliding doors and Dak again 230 00:09:00,710 --> 00:09:02,610 with a 231 00:09:02,610 --> 00:09:04,870 the cabbie out that if HPC 232 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:06,910 agrees that perhaps a scaled 233 00:09:06,910 --> 00:09:09,810 down a debt could be located 234 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:11,980 along that rear for facade and 235 00:09:11,980 --> 00:09:13,610 slightly onto the onto the side 236 00:09:13,610 --> 00:09:15,370 facade. 237 00:09:15,370 --> 00:09:18,190 >> Question to you. Is your 238 00:09:18,190 --> 00:09:20,310 concern, the fact of a deck or 239 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:22,560 the way the deck is designed? 240 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,520 >> Just its prominence at size, 241 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,990 how far it juts into that side 242 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:27,840 yard and again, with the with 243 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,150 the addition of that larger 244 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:32,180 opening, their it hit, 245 00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:33,420 it makes it seem as though the 246 00:09:33,420 --> 00:09:35,900 side to side becomes the 247 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:37,490 primary facade produced this. 248 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:38,950 This is a rendering. Have you 249 00:09:38,950 --> 00:09:40,100 see the finished version? 250 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,600 Looks like that's a change, 251 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,690 Shiite. I think that makes him 252 00:09:42,690 --> 00:09:43,800 and I think it's a I was going 253 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,780 to change. It looks like that's 254 00:09:44,780 --> 00:09:46,340 something I mean in town are. 255 00:09:46,340 --> 00:09:47,540 >> I mean, very suburban mean 256 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:49,210 if they were to have a standard 257 00:09:49,210 --> 00:09:52,210 or not a sliding door 258 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:55,170 coming up at the the. 259 00:09:55,170 --> 00:09:58,170 >> I'm a caregiver. You should 260 00:09:58,770 --> 00:10:01,320 come out and come out and give 261 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,970 us your after this. I want to 262 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:05,800 set in these crowds here. 263 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Yes, 264 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,630 and you're doing so on the 265 00:10:09,630 --> 00:10:11,630 Maury one. 266 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,800 >> Because that looks like 267 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:19,240 it looks like composite 268 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,620 decking. But this is a 269 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:22,200 rendering with the use way. 270 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,500 I yeah, that's the irony. 271 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:25,680 >> Yeah. Could be careful with 272 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:28,220 that stuff. That is the reason 273 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:29,500 your part that we in your 274 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:31,850 pocket prisma of what is true 275 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:33,450 city be in the company. 276 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:35,590 >> I do fix and flip to 277 00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:37,360 remodels a night. House 278 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,100 families there fires and well 279 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:42,000 while but you live here, 280 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 I live here. 281 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:45,350 Thanks, house. 282 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:46,750 It would be this decade a 283 00:10:46,750 --> 00:10:48,460 little. 284 00:10:48,460 --> 00:10:50,400 >> I think this can be designed 285 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,780 in a more Queen Anne style. 286 00:10:52,780 --> 00:10:54,550 Okay. With the door way, 287 00:10:54,550 --> 00:10:56,410 that's consistent with the 288 00:10:56,410 --> 00:10:59,410 design of the House. Really 289 00:11:00,980 --> 00:11:02,550 composite materials. But 290 00:11:02,550 --> 00:11:04,930 classic coming prove more 291 00:11:04,930 --> 00:11:07,190 traditional symbols of a larger 292 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:08,810 dimension mean if you say to 293 00:11:08,810 --> 00:11:10,230 buy to. But this they end up 294 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:11,760 being one and a half by one 1 295 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,750 of the quarter by one of 3 296 00:11:12,750 --> 00:11:14,640 quarter. If you standard stock. 297 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,440 All right. Lets you get custom 298 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Millwood. You can do to get a 299 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,360 true too late to scandal 300 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:25,200 and Hughes classic Clifford 301 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,870 railings and right. I mean, 302 00:11:26,870 --> 00:11:28,710 yes, that they've got to do all 303 00:11:28,710 --> 00:11:30,580 that in Stockton. 304 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:31,740 And that is I'm still with 305 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:32,880 that. This is have an awfully 306 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,230 suburban look to it in a very 307 00:11:35,230 --> 00:11:37,230 uncertain neighborhood. 308 00:11:37,890 --> 00:11:39,280 >> If you have a copy of the 309 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,370 guidelines for Bruce help. 310 00:11:41,370 --> 00:11:43,130 >> Yeah, I do. He was nice 311 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:44,480 enough to give me the 312 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,670 guidelines. I didn't know that 313 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:46,540 this was a hoping so I'm 314 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:47,540 learning distance-learning 315 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:49,600 process really. 316 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,880 So Andrew has been very nice to 317 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,480 let you know what I can and 318 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,340 can't do so. So I'm asking 319 00:11:53,340 --> 00:11:54,260 permission if I can do the 320 00:11:54,260 --> 00:11:56,190 carriage doors during that 321 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:57,960 opening. And if we want a 322 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,980 smaller that we can do a 323 00:11:58,980 --> 00:12:00,560 smaller debt. 324 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:01,670 >> But for security reasons, 325 00:12:01,670 --> 00:12:02,660 I really want to sliding door. 326 00:12:02,660 --> 00:12:04,360 I wouldn't want to let you go. 327 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,740 That's fine because we're using 328 00:12:05,740 --> 00:12:07,220 it 329 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:08,370 and a tree in the show. 330 00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:09,650 >> Yeah, I think this. I think 331 00:12:09,650 --> 00:12:10,650 that's what I need to go back 332 00:12:10,650 --> 00:12:12,370 to the drawing board for a 333 00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:13,550 little bit of design. Overall. 334 00:12:13,550 --> 00:12:14,940 You working with the 335 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:16,250 contractors will have the 336 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:19,250 contract to the contractor hit. 337 00:12:19,310 --> 00:12:20,630 Very, very good. 338 00:12:20,630 --> 00:12:21,540 >> So tell us more about what 339 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:24,200 you do. Use it. So I do think 340 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,450 some flips it. Also house, 341 00:12:25,450 --> 00:12:26,500 like families like that. 342 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:28,600 I have really good management 343 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,250 own different rentals that the 344 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,480 midterms. So we primarily 345 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,630 worked like a recall relocation 346 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:36,390 or people that are unhoused due 347 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:38,320 to fire floods. 348 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,400 >> And you, you relocate folks 349 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,890 of what single-family homes 350 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:43,200 that unit. Yes, like 351 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,240 single-family homes or we have 352 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,200 a stable of empty single-family 353 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,960 home where now just hours to. 354 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,910 >> We're not be know as you 355 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:52,460 have and about 20 of them. 356 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:54,250 If you own emerges manager I 357 00:12:54,250 --> 00:12:55,760 own about 6 and I manage for 358 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,620 other people. 359 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:00,400 >> And feel like on interesting 360 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,350 Brew City. Bnbs is your 361 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:02,590 company. Yes, it is. Yeah. 362 00:13:02,590 --> 00:13:04,620 Okay. You got the next 2 363 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:06,260 matters are before us. Well, 364 00:13:06,260 --> 00:13:08,280 what is the next one? 365 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Well, those and yeah, we'll 366 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:13,290 certainly have. 367 00:13:15,310 --> 00:13:17,710 Okay. Yeah. Locations. Okay. 368 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,150 Yeah. I don't think this one's 369 00:13:19,150 --> 00:13:20,520 ready for prime time. Yeah. 370 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,730 Yeah. 371 00:13:21,730 --> 00:13:23,370 Can you work with her? 372 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:25,770 >> Yeah. Absolutely. What's h 373 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:27,940 PCs feeling on having a door on 374 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:29,320 that facade versus on the rear 375 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,540 with you? I have a preference. 376 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:34,840 >> I would say the rear makes 377 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,930 which is your guys 378 00:13:35,930 --> 00:13:37,500 recommendation? Correct? 379 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:38,160 Yeah. I would say the rear 380 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,220 makes more sense in this 381 00:13:39,220 --> 00:13:41,220 neighborhood. Yeah. 382 00:13:41,410 --> 00:13:42,820 >> Those are the adorable are 383 00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:44,820 the perfect 384 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:46,670 we are because that there was a 385 00:13:46,670 --> 00:13:47,840 bump out of the house that was 386 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,300 added in 1915. So it's good to 387 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,300 be it would be awkward. 388 00:13:54,410 --> 00:13:56,430 So having that patio door there 389 00:13:56,430 --> 00:13:57,660 opens it up from the dining 390 00:13:57,660 --> 00:14:00,400 room for entertaining spaces 391 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,450 and I can make it HPC 392 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,450 appropriate. Yeah. 393 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:06,940 >> Yesterday, the same room, 394 00:14:06,940 --> 00:14:08,940 correct? 395 00:14:09,180 --> 00:14:10,950 >> Yes, the same role. But it 396 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:12,170 just the app or to have the 397 00:14:12,170 --> 00:14:14,170 door there versus 398 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,380 this is from the inside of the 399 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:17,510 house would be awkward to have 400 00:14:17,510 --> 00:14:19,510 the door there. 401 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:25,670 >> Right now, I think 402 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:27,350 my personal and what this is, 403 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:29,340 Alice, 3 inches on the side of 404 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:31,790 that window for a carriage door 405 00:14:31,790 --> 00:14:33,790 for that opening. 406 00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:36,500 >> So you're one house in from 407 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,630 the corner, but the corner, 408 00:14:37,630 --> 00:14:39,550 lots vacant. I got to hope 409 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:40,920 corner lot, right. But it used 410 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,970 to be a house or, you know, 411 00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:45,600 well, no, actually, my grandma 412 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,580 others ago last year, but 413 00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:48,850 nearly 8 years ago like that, 414 00:14:48,850 --> 00:14:50,260 there were no, no, no, my dream 415 00:14:50,260 --> 00:14:51,540 of their 4 years ago, that was 416 00:14:51,540 --> 00:14:53,540 house. 417 00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:56,700 >> Because it's strange that to 418 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:57,620 be 419 00:14:57,620 --> 00:14:58,610 to have a vacant corner. 420 00:14:58,610 --> 00:14:59,650 I mean, at some point there was 421 00:14:59,650 --> 00:15:01,650 a 422 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,890 yeah. There's also a quarter at 423 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:06,820 on King Drive that has never 424 00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:08,190 ever meant to offer some with 425 00:15:08,190 --> 00:15:09,600 some snow and ice have been a 426 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,600 house to the 427 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,900 the whole show on the other 428 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:14,270 side here. 429 00:15:14,270 --> 00:15:16,190 >> And that faces. Yeah, 430 00:15:16,190 --> 00:15:18,400 the other street, correct? 431 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,800 That's facing first. Yes. 432 00:15:20,810 --> 00:15:21,830 Yeah. That's an awkwardly. 433 00:15:21,830 --> 00:15:22,760 And it just looks like the 434 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:23,800 front entrance. 435 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,250 >> Yeah. Well, yeah. If you'd 436 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:28,650 look, I'm lying around 437 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,470 Google Street view here. 438 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:33,190 Right? And this is the 439 00:15:33,190 --> 00:15:35,300 this is the front of the house 440 00:15:35,300 --> 00:15:37,300 right there. 441 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:39,700 >> Which is diminutive. 442 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,730 >> Compared to what you're 443 00:15:40,730 --> 00:15:42,730 proposing 444 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,000 once one street. 445 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,130 >> The courthouse is uneven. 446 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:48,720 These colors that make it out 447 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,350 for that color now part of its 448 00:15:50,350 --> 00:15:51,860 half with a color. Now it's 449 00:15:51,860 --> 00:15:54,700 green right now, OK, black 450 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:55,450 sightings? 451 00:15:55,450 --> 00:15:56,310 >> Probably being done right 452 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:57,600 now as we speak. Yes, so it's 453 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,590 that staff is she's the 454 00:15:58,590 --> 00:15:59,770 undergoing a large 455 00:15:59,770 --> 00:16:01,500 rehabilitation project says 456 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:02,370 staff recently approved to see 457 00:16:02,370 --> 00:16:03,150 a way to remove the 458 00:16:03,150 --> 00:16:04,220 replacement, citing and she's 459 00:16:04,220 --> 00:16:05,640 restoring the clobbered, 460 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,190 citing all will be restoring 461 00:16:07,190 --> 00:16:09,190 the windows. That. 462 00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:11,400 >> And your grandma lived 463 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,970 there. Yeah, 40's 45 years ago 464 00:16:13,970 --> 00:16:15,710 before I was alive. But look, 465 00:16:15,710 --> 00:16:17,170 it's already green are ready 466 00:16:17,170 --> 00:16:18,500 and starting to restore. 467 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:20,330 So we're. 468 00:16:20,330 --> 00:16:21,840 >> There are pictures are 469 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,100 behind the time. Yeah. Those 470 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:24,920 are older street view images. 471 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,190 Okay. 472 00:16:26,190 --> 00:16:28,190 Only December 2025. 473 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,550 I think it needs to go back and 474 00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:33,560 I think 475 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,100 that you are correct in your 476 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:38,350 app. I will move to deny and I 477 00:16:38,350 --> 00:16:40,960 will do that and move the home. 478 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,790 Well, thank you tonight, 479 00:16:42,790 --> 00:16:44,790 correct. And and 480 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:47,270 go back for changes 481 00:16:47,270 --> 00:16:48,860 that you're suggesting. 482 00:16:48,860 --> 00:16:49,980 >> And I wouldn't be able to 483 00:16:49,980 --> 00:16:51,400 come back until next month. 484 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,530 If you deny to just start over 485 00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:54,330 again. Yes, we don't want to be 486 00:16:54,330 --> 00:16:56,260 like, OK, if you hold it, 487 00:16:56,260 --> 00:16:58,190 you should come back next 488 00:16:58,190 --> 00:17:00,800 month. Well, sorry. Yeah, 489 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,700 actually, you still have time 490 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:03,300 to deny this one because we're 491 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:04,470 not up to deadline yet because 492 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:06,200 it's so far out. The hope that 493 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,870 will move the whole. Yeah. 494 00:17:07,870 --> 00:17:09,500 Okay. That's fact. Okay. 495 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:10,710 To have a second for holding 496 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:13,380 this one. 0nd guys on favor. 497 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:15,300 Aye. Aye. 498 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:16,620 >> You may want to step here. 499 00:17:16,620 --> 00:17:18,620 Then item to 6, 0, 4, 0, 500 00:17:19,310 --> 00:17:20,490 5, resolution going to a 501 00:17:20,490 --> 00:17:21,560 certificate of appropriateness 502 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,140 for demolition of a garage at 503 00:17:23,140 --> 00:17:24,840 2, 3, 2, 8, East Back Bay 504 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,450 Street in the North Point South 505 00:17:26,450 --> 00:17:28,630 Historic District for Bruce Atb 506 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:30,320 NBA's company. 507 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,850 >> Great. Thank you, Mr. 508 00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:33,470 Chair. So that staff had not 509 00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:36,170 received final plans for the 510 00:17:36,170 --> 00:17:39,770 addition or or for the garage. 511 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:41,390 So staff's recommending holding 512 00:17:41,390 --> 00:17:43,390 3, 4, next month. Perfect. 513 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:45,600 >> You have a motion for 514 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,460 holding items. 3, 4, to almost 515 00:17:48,690 --> 00:17:50,640 all right. All in favor. 516 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,650 Aye. All right. All-star 517 00:17:52,650 --> 00:17:54,670 somebody. Seconded it. Yeah. 518 00:17:54,670 --> 00:17:55,840 All right. Good. 519 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,840 >> House to yeah. 520 00:17:59,230 --> 00:18:01,480 Okay. Very good. Thank you. 521 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Thank you. 522 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:05,460 >> All right. Item 5 resolution 523 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:06,450 relating to certificate of 524 00:18:06,450 --> 00:18:07,930 appropriateness for 525 00:18:07,930 --> 00:18:08,930 rehabilitation of the Grand 526 00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:10,490 Department store Mitchell Park 527 00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:12,490 place at 1, 1, 0, 1, West 528 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:14,260 Historic Mitchell Street in the 529 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:15,470 Mitchell Street Historic 530 00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:18,470 District. First when a cotton. 531 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:24,670 >> This is a big project, 532 00:18:24,670 --> 00:18:26,460 but it is also largely 533 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:28,370 cosmetic. So I'm going to 534 00:18:28,370 --> 00:18:29,390 pretty much just going to hit 535 00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:30,610 the highlights of what's going 536 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,000 on here. 537 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,490 It it is nonetheless 538 00:18:33,490 --> 00:18:35,190 complicated. So I brought the 539 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:36,900 whole plan set to announce to 540 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:39,350 work. I realize the architects 541 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:40,730 on the committee are virtual 542 00:18:40,730 --> 00:18:42,730 but well 543 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,280 for the summer. 544 00:18:49,330 --> 00:18:51,410 So this is the former Grand 545 00:18:51,410 --> 00:18:53,800 Department store at 11th and 546 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Mitchell, 547 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,260 the several combined buildings 548 00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:00,720 with numerous connections and 549 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,710 remodeling. Those pieces range 550 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:04,710 from a. 551 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:08,380 >> In date from 18, 88 18 prior 552 00:19:08,910 --> 00:19:10,910 to 18, 88 18, 91 1911, 553 00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:16,540 1949. And that the primary side 554 00:19:18,340 --> 00:19:21,340 you're seeing here is a 1937. 555 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:26,220 That is a 1937, makeover that 556 00:19:26,220 --> 00:19:28,220 combined 2 or 3 buildings 557 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:53,500 that will move on to plans. 558 00:19:55,730 --> 00:19:57,210 The plan is essentially to keep 559 00:19:57,210 --> 00:19:58,840 the first-floor retail and 560 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,680 community serving spaces and an 561 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,680 apartment lobby. 562 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,700 Part of the 11th Street side 563 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:08,160 will become a daycare on the 564 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,420 ground floor. Second floor 565 00:20:10,420 --> 00:20:12,880 throughout will become a will 566 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,430 be 567 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:16,430 how a apartments. 568 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,720 So meaning projects remove all 569 00:20:21,130 --> 00:20:22,960 existing exterior signage. 570 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,910 None of which is well, none of 571 00:20:25,910 --> 00:20:27,300 which dates to the era of the 572 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:29,600 bill here are the building was 573 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,560 constructed or to the grands 574 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,410 operations 575 00:20:32,410 --> 00:20:33,860 clean and repair the masonry 576 00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:36,260 with her soco products. 577 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,340 Existing windows will be 578 00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:40,100 retained and repaired replacing 579 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:42,190 in kind to current conditions 580 00:20:42,190 --> 00:20:44,190 where necessary 581 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:46,170 there appeared to be no 582 00:20:46,170 --> 00:20:48,840 original windows outside of the 583 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,240 1949, edition on 11th Street. 584 00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:56,820 >> Which is list self section 585 00:20:56,820 --> 00:20:59,490 that left section list, top 586 00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:01,110 quarter of the dry, 587 00:21:01,110 --> 00:21:03,110 very international style. 588 00:21:03,970 --> 00:21:05,750 Clearly differentiating it from 589 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:06,900 the Mitchell Street. Facades 590 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:08,490 Art 591 00:21:08,490 --> 00:21:10,490 Streamline Moderne, 592 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,620 replace, tinted stand spaniel 593 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:14,540 glass again. Mostly on the 11th 594 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:16,480 street side of the front 595 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,180 buildings 596 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:20,230 with a new clear glazing 597 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:21,720 replace non historic entry 598 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,320 doors on the 11th street side, 599 00:21:25,620 --> 00:21:28,200 install 5 new aluminum frame 600 00:21:28,590 --> 00:21:30,590 home windows on 601 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:34,310 the alley side 602 00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:37,550 right here in the white painted 603 00:21:37,550 --> 00:21:40,900 brick area to create not new 604 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:41,490 windows for apartments on that 605 00:21:41,490 --> 00:21:43,490 upper level. 606 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,140 There is no reason to believe 607 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:48,590 there are ever been would book 608 00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:49,760 windows in this building. 609 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,370 So aluminum is perfectly 610 00:21:51,370 --> 00:21:53,370 reasonable. 611 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:56,200 There's never been a wood 612 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,200 window in this building to our 613 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,660 knowledge. 614 00:21:58,660 --> 00:22:00,430 So adding with what and 615 00:22:00,430 --> 00:22:02,500 especially on Mitchell Street, 616 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,650 Ali would be an unusual choice. 617 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:07,900 They are a product we have 618 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:09,800 proved before. And commercial 619 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,800 projects graham windows 620 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,700 repair the roof deck, install 621 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:18,100 12 skylights to out increase 622 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:20,360 interior daylight in various 623 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:22,760 units and the apartments. 624 00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:27,180 So overall, a very a good 625 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:29,300 project. I do have staff has 626 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:30,590 some concerns with the masonry 627 00:22:30,590 --> 00:22:32,430 quick leaning proposal that 628 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:35,150 maybe a little too aggressive. 629 00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:36,570 It should be. It should be 630 00:22:36,570 --> 00:22:38,570 phased. 631 00:22:39,310 --> 00:22:40,710 The purse or kosher. Clean 632 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:42,430 light duty, concrete, clean air 633 00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:44,700 that is proposed for all of the 634 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:46,470 surfaces is highly caustic 635 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,900 and a civic leader. Cleaners 636 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,560 can only be used on why Sam 637 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,260 with extreme care and very 638 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:53,630 experienced crews who know what 639 00:22:53,630 --> 00:22:55,420 they're doing. 640 00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:56,970 Every effort should be made and 641 00:22:56,970 --> 00:22:59,140 made to clean the building with 642 00:22:59,140 --> 00:23:00,780 water light surfactants and 643 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:02,810 antimicrobials before resort is 644 00:23:02,810 --> 00:23:04,650 ordering to strong chemicals 645 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:06,100 TSB 646 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,100 tsp. 647 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,160 If it were if it were glazed 648 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,800 tile actually tied is 649 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,800 surprisingly effective. 650 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,370 Yes, 651 00:23:20,370 --> 00:23:22,330 we're not a word that from a 652 00:23:22,330 --> 00:23:23,600 conservatory tried to do my 653 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,990 fireplace matter at dawn. 654 00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:27,990 Not gone. 655 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,250 I don't believe everything. 656 00:23:30,250 --> 00:23:32,650 Well, apparently, yeah. Super 657 00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:34,860 much more concentrated than you 658 00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:35,930 would use in your laundry. 659 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:39,530 But it does work the crystal 660 00:23:41,710 --> 00:23:43,200 but also problem but definitely 661 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,150 not appropriate for limestone. 662 00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:47,150 Regardless, 663 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,770 a black standing of limestone 664 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:50,760 should be tested for its 665 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,220 composition before selecting 666 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:53,300 any particular chemical 667 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:55,120 treatment suit. And biological 668 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:56,800 standing are nearly 669 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,440 indistinguishable to the naked 670 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,610 eye and respond very 671 00:23:58,610 --> 00:24:00,410 differently to cleaning agents, 672 00:24:00,410 --> 00:24:02,810 especially on stone surfaces 673 00:24:05,490 --> 00:24:07,960 so that that is the primary 674 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,960 concern. 675 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,830 Here's some of the conditions 676 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:13,830 of the building. 677 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,320 There are some bright and 678 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,410 copper storefront original that 679 00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:20,210 is painted. The paint will be 680 00:24:20,210 --> 00:24:21,990 removed. 681 00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:23,300 The stuff that looks like 682 00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:25,550 granite is a synthetic granite 683 00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:28,910 that is basically a a died 684 00:24:28,910 --> 00:24:31,110 concrete with dark aggregate. 685 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:32,790 So it's not actually concrete 686 00:24:32,790 --> 00:24:34,820 and will be there for actually 687 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:36,420 more repairable. Then true 688 00:24:36,420 --> 00:24:37,570 granite 689 00:24:37,570 --> 00:24:39,970 less and less obvious 690 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:43,180 current second-floor windows 691 00:24:43,180 --> 00:24:44,480 again, believe not to be 692 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,480 original but will be capped 693 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:51,950 the middle section on 11th 694 00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:54,300 Street. That is current painted 695 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:56,300 18 90's, brick 696 00:24:57,270 --> 00:24:59,460 and the highlight of the 1949, 697 00:24:59,460 --> 00:25:01,300 edition at the south end of the 698 00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,300 building. 699 00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:05,790 More details on 1949 windows. 700 00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:09,690 So conditions acquire masonry 701 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:11,770 building cleaning permits. 702 00:25:11,770 --> 00:25:13,900 It is never included in the 703 00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:14,570 building. Permit is required to 704 00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:16,570 do separately 705 00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:18,380 staff to not believe the brick 706 00:25:18,380 --> 00:25:21,420 on the 1949. Facade is a in 707 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:22,680 such condition that harsh 708 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,800 chemical cleaning is necessary. 709 00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:27,360 It should be cleaned with water 710 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,830 and light first surfactant 711 00:25:28,830 --> 00:25:30,460 except for dealing with 712 00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:31,850 graffiti. 713 00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:32,770 But we acknowledge that 714 00:25:32,770 --> 00:25:34,210 chemical cleaning of this 715 00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:35,570 limestone lentils on that 716 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,630 section is probably necessary 717 00:25:37,630 --> 00:25:39,520 due to the dark standing 718 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,460 when painting the previously 719 00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:43,990 painted brick on various decide 720 00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:45,320 to use a paper certified by the 721 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,630 man factor as certified for 722 00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:49,430 brick. And then our standard 723 00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:50,890 conditions on the pressure 724 00:25:50,890 --> 00:25:52,660 washing technique 725 00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:54,880 fan tip minimum distance from 726 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,270 the building and PS I 727 00:25:56,270 --> 00:25:58,300 restrictions and gpm 728 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:00,300 restrictions. 729 00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:03,250 Anybody from the developer of 730 00:26:03,250 --> 00:26:04,870 the U.S. the architect is 731 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:06,870 present all good. 732 00:26:11,980 --> 00:26:13,430 >> He just state your name and 733 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:15,290 we're representing sure. 734 00:26:15,290 --> 00:26:16,570 My name is Courtney Reagan. 735 00:26:16,570 --> 00:26:18,570 A continuum architects 736 00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:20,590 represent a client. 737 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,110 It's going to come clean. 738 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:24,730 >> Nasa has any of the 739 00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:26,730 commissioners have questions 740 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:28,100 and all these conditions. 741 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,130 >> That factory, we are in 742 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:31,680 agreement with all those us. 743 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,490 >> Pretty simple, Ben. All 744 00:26:33,490 --> 00:26:35,960 right. Second second, all in 745 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,960 favor, Aye. 746 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:39,240 All right. That was easy. 747 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,250 Thank you. 748 00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:41,300 >> This is a footnote. This was 749 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,950 a building that had been slated 750 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:44,850 for demolition. 751 00:26:44,850 --> 00:26:46,460 Amazing which we deny that the 752 00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:48,730 council granted. And now 753 00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:50,730 changing plans changed. 754 00:26:50,770 --> 00:26:52,610 >> Perfect. Same owner. Thanks 755 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:53,840 to come. 756 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,400 That's awesome. Great. So we 757 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,140 like. 758 00:26:57,140 --> 00:26:58,380 >> Thank you. Continue mission 759 00:26:58,380 --> 00:26:59,930 to listen to some of them have 760 00:26:59,930 --> 00:27:04,130 or you're out how to do it. 761 00:27:05,260 --> 00:27:07,260 >> Excellent item. 6 to 6, 762 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,630 0, 3, 7, 6, resolution really 763 00:27:09,630 --> 00:27:10,470 into a certificate of 764 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:11,810 appropriateness for exterior 765 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:13,590 structure, repairs and masonry 766 00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:15,670 work at 1, 0, 3, 4, North Vel R 767 00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:17,860 Phillips Avenue Turner Hall and 768 00:27:17,860 --> 00:27:19,100 individually designated 769 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:20,730 historic property for the 770 00:27:20,730 --> 00:27:22,730 Milwaukee Turner's. 771 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,850 So here is Turner Hall. 772 00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:28,850 >> It dates to 18 82. The area 773 00:27:29,410 --> 00:27:31,810 that is receiving the. 774 00:27:33,710 --> 00:27:36,160 >> A majority of the work is 775 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,560 the north shorter two-storey 776 00:27:38,650 --> 00:27:41,500 north waiting to see. 777 00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:43,860 >> Here and it's I highlighted 778 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:46,500 in yellow with pros areas of 779 00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,500 work. 780 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,210 >> Proposal is to install. 781 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:52,900 She channel bracing across the 782 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:53,640 fight primary facade of the 783 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,640 annex 784 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,780 and general reporting and make 785 00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:59,570 some repairs mostly on the 786 00:27:59,570 --> 00:28:00,990 front of the building but will 787 00:28:00,990 --> 00:28:03,990 be done as needed everywhere. 788 00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:06,490 A core of the proposal is to 789 00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:08,520 bent steel, see channels that 790 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,940 will be installed on the 791 00:28:09,940 --> 00:28:12,110 primary facade to improve 792 00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:13,880 structural integrity is 793 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,380 channels would be secured to 794 00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:16,800 the building with metal rods 795 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,850 run back into the building, 796 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:19,440 approximately 8 feet through 797 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,600 Joyce and rafters. As you can 798 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600 see on the drawings here, 799 00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:26,260 blocking would be added to the 800 00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:27,540 Joyce and rafters along with 801 00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,640 still roads to begin. A bending 802 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,400 of this steel is 803 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,210 required to address the present 804 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:35,460 Boeing of the front of the 805 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:37,460 building. 806 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:39,410 The steel will when installed 807 00:28:39,410 --> 00:28:41,140 will be painted to be blended 808 00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:42,720 into the side as best as 809 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,720 possible. 810 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,260 So based on the photos provided 811 00:28:47,260 --> 00:28:49,260 in the file 812 00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:50,660 staff is somewhat right, 813 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:52,190 reluctantly recommending 814 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:54,650 approval of this as it is 815 00:28:54,650 --> 00:28:57,200 presented as a temporary 816 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,900 stabilization measure. We don't 817 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:01,450 have word on long term for a 818 00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:02,770 timeline, 819 00:29:02,770 --> 00:29:05,110 but they are doing doing their 820 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:06,740 best to stabilize and make it 821 00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:09,800 is presentable as possible by 822 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,760 they will be painting was 823 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,600 painting the steel to blended 824 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,460 into the brick work. 825 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:19,500 The bigger the particular issue 826 00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,780 I have is a 3 pointing of the 827 00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:24,920 building is right proposed as 828 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920 type and order 829 00:29:27,730 --> 00:29:29,950 from prior experience and pride 830 00:29:29,950 --> 00:29:32,350 for with reviewers that 831 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,800 Wisconsin historical society. 832 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,900 I had an experience with Mark 833 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:40,660 Biko where he shall we say 834 00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:42,640 through a hairy can area about 835 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640 using that type and mortar and 836 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,200 cream city brick. He did not 837 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,500 allow it to be used anywhere in 838 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:50,450 the pop Pabst complex. 839 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:53,720 So I think since Turner Hall as 840 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,140 a national historic landmark 841 00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:57,600 and perhaps does not, we should 842 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,330 certainly be upholding the same 843 00:29:58,330 --> 00:30:00,320 standard and be as careful with 844 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,370 the brick as possible. 845 00:30:02,370 --> 00:30:04,170 So the staff is recommending a 846 00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:07,700 typo order or NHL natural 847 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:08,910 hydrology lime order rather 848 00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:10,400 than type. And there were be 849 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,220 asked 850 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:12,760 too much Portland cement in the 851 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,200 mix for this except in possible 852 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200 locations where it 853 00:30:18,290 --> 00:30:20,190 some possible locations where 854 00:30:20,190 --> 00:30:21,850 extreme structural support is 855 00:30:21,850 --> 00:30:24,140 necessary, but it shouldn't. 856 00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:26,860 But a natural lime order should 857 00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:28,620 be sufficient for almost all of 858 00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:30,410 the work. 859 00:30:30,410 --> 00:30:33,410 Who's a blue frame building 860 00:30:33,490 --> 00:30:35,300 criticized separating from the 861 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,190 wood. 862 00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:38,590 That is a tough 863 00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:40,970 as vertical members. 864 00:30:43,170 --> 00:30:44,570 Yeah. All of the engineer speak 865 00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:46,820 to that because that was that 866 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:48,500 was not drawn in. But you are 867 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,500 probably correct. 868 00:30:50,910 --> 00:30:52,200 And then those rights have to 869 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600 go through multiple choice. 870 00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:56,780 Yes. 871 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,500 >> She had been tougher. 872 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,740 So sure. Yeah, my name's 873 00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:02,670 immunity. Tory, I'm the 874 00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:03,800 executive director of the 875 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,940 market Turner's the Turner 876 00:31:04,940 --> 00:31:06,680 Hall, 877 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Erik Pitt and city manager for 878 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Turner Hall. 879 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,170 >> And just being a president 880 00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:12,660 being engineering, the 881 00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:13,630 structural engineer for the 882 00:31:13,630 --> 00:31:15,460 project. 883 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:17,690 So the it is a blueprint. 884 00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:19,800 So to continue is burning wall 885 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800 construction and the. 886 00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:24,880 >> Joyce parallel to the front 887 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,800 facade ties my folks to get out 888 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,460 there being difficult today. 889 00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:33,700 I was out the ring. Was the 890 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:35,900 joys parallel to the front 891 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:36,530 facade, which is the west 892 00:31:36,530 --> 00:31:38,450 elevation? 893 00:31:38,450 --> 00:31:40,610 >> Is there. But the facade has 894 00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:42,610 separated and there's no direct 895 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:44,710 attachment of that. Joyce, 896 00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:46,160 to the facade, 897 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,730 a lot of this stem from the 898 00:31:48,730 --> 00:31:51,680 deep water, deep tunnel project 899 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,170 and the cracking of the side 900 00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:55,930 that we've seen evidence of 901 00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:57,390 that there is far back as 902 00:31:57,390 --> 00:31:58,880 photographic evidence of that. 903 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,620 The site is around that time. 904 00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:02,100 So we've seen cracks in the 905 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,820 same location appear to be the 906 00:32:03,820 --> 00:32:05,820 same size. 907 00:32:05,870 --> 00:32:07,190 So we're just addressing this 908 00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:08,800 need for lateral stabilization 909 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,580 that aside, 910 00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:11,810 because as we know, that can 911 00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:13,000 tend to lean off the building 912 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,780 and well into the street some 913 00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:16,570 time. So we're preparing are 914 00:32:16,570 --> 00:32:17,670 proposing a temporary 915 00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:18,880 stabilization of the upper 916 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,480 side, just a strapping it and 917 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Emilio American speak with a 918 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160 long-term timeline. But 919 00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:28,250 >> I think the the overall 920 00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:31,360 intent is to address it. 921 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,980 It's just temporarily stabilize 922 00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:34,850 and for now and then proceed in 923 00:32:34,850 --> 00:32:36,210 the future. We're currently 924 00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:37,400 looking to get either an 925 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400 historic structures report or a 926 00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:42,190 historic properties master plan 927 00:32:42,190 --> 00:32:43,710 so that we can more 928 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:44,710 strategically go about 929 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:46,200 restoring the entire building 930 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,230 and not just this cosmetic 931 00:32:47,230 --> 00:32:49,500 stuff. The urgency being in 932 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,680 this is that it's also my 933 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,840 my desk, which is going to 934 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,180 slide off into the parking lot 935 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:55,910 of this falls as I sit over 936 00:32:55,910 --> 00:32:57,900 there. But it's it's a you 937 00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:58,970 know, it's a gorgeous, lovely 938 00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:59,970 building and it's alive. 939 00:32:59,970 --> 00:33:01,250 It's not a museum. And so we 940 00:33:01,250 --> 00:33:02,560 need to 941 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,260 making continue another 143 942 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:05,630 years, at least. 943 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:06,670 Yeah. And this this is the 944 00:33:06,670 --> 00:33:07,970 annex structures who wasn't 945 00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:08,840 part of the original 946 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,910 construction. But it was very 947 00:33:10,910 --> 00:33:12,270 bill very soon after the new 948 00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:14,270 edition from 19, 0, 2, 949 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,500 >> Pt 13 foot ceiling hike is 950 00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:19,140 at it. 951 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:20,930 If the facade of separated is 952 00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:22,930 just 2 straps enough. 953 00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:25,160 >> It's a very it's so it's 954 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,340 very narrow. It is connected to 955 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,970 the main building out that it 956 00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:30,580 hit that original north wall of 957 00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:33,110 the main building. And I forget 958 00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:34,870 the exact with of the panic 959 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:36,330 structure, but it's it's very 960 00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:39,700 narrow. The xt rwall on the 961 00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:41,300 north side is engaged with the 962 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:43,500 West side. So we're just 963 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,100 wrapping that holding it back 964 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,770 between those 2 965 00:33:46,770 --> 00:33:48,730 points of restraint at the 966 00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:50,730 corners. 967 00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:53,240 If we're coming back, it feet 968 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,630 in just to engage the Florida 969 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:56,690 diaphragm because we want that 970 00:33:56,690 --> 00:33:57,980 Florida for him to work and 971 00:33:57,980 --> 00:34:01,130 bring those loads back to the 972 00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:03,190 north and the both North Wales, 973 00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:04,170 the north, while the original 974 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:05,140 building on the north wall of 975 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:07,140 an extra Qatar. 976 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,120 >> The rods welded to the 977 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,800 channel. 978 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,160 >> No, they did not need to 979 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,160 know they can be bolted. 980 00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:18,150 I guess that would put a 981 00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:19,550 I'm not on the next year face 982 00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:20,630 of the channel 983 00:34:20,630 --> 00:34:21,890 in a decorative. Not it could 984 00:34:21,890 --> 00:34:23,620 be as they're seeing that out 985 00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:26,200 on a star shape. 986 00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:29,160 Exactly. Yeah, you know, 987 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,920 I was sure basically. 988 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,100 >> Several is actually part of 989 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,130 the original structure on the 990 00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:34,220 north face the building. 991 00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:35,460 So finding something to match 992 00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:37,460 that. 993 00:34:39,700 --> 00:34:40,390 >> Fundraisers live, if you'd 994 00:34:40,390 --> 00:34:41,380 like to contribute, I 995 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:42,870 decorative not. 996 00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:44,870 Yes, 997 00:34:47,130 --> 00:34:49,530 anybody else have questions? 998 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:51,980 >> Yes, Mr. Chairman, I do have 999 00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:54,300 a question. Go ahead. 1000 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,430 Chairs just being you're 1001 00:34:57,150 --> 00:34:59,560 showing this kind of work to 1002 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,310 stabilize with seems to be like 1003 00:35:01,310 --> 00:35:03,550 the roof and the second floor. 1004 00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:05,520 Would there be any need to do 1005 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,520 this? Channeling 1006 00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:12,190 work at the first floor? 1007 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:14,560 I don't. I mean, he's an old 1008 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,780 brick facade displacing per 1009 00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:18,770 know. 1010 00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:20,310 >> We've investigated at the 1011 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:21,950 roof level in the second floor 1012 00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:24,350 level of separation. That's 1013 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,270 where most of the defamation 1014 00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:29,150 occurs and is peeling away. 1015 00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:30,710 It's it's actually 1016 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:32,630 to house, right. There's a 1017 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:33,690 window down the center of the 1018 00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:35,540 building and that the side, 1019 00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:38,410 there's one half to the north 1020 00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:39,530 and a half to the south that 1021 00:35:39,530 --> 00:35:41,790 are essentially king that that 1022 00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:44,330 that window location at the 1023 00:35:44,330 --> 00:35:45,690 second floor, not the roof but 1024 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:49,460 not the lower level. There is a 1025 00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:51,910 you can see the the if you go 1026 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:55,510 back to the image him the 1027 00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:59,980 the first floor level is about 1028 00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:01,960 3 feet above the sidewalk and 1029 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,730 location. 1030 00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:04,700 There's a different type of 1031 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:06,760 wall construction there with 1032 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,760 granite. 1033 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:12,160 Sorry, not granite state stone 1034 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,220 blocks at the base course. 1035 00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:15,240 So different. Different wall 1036 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,240 construction. 1037 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,980 That cup of Joe. 1038 00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:22,610 >> Okay. That sounds fine. 1039 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:24,190 I'm just, you know, 1040 00:36:24,190 --> 00:36:26,190 asking that question. 1041 00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:27,750 Sounds good. Looks like proper 1042 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:28,950 repair. 1043 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:30,480 >> Historically, when the that 1044 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,000 these were being built, how was 1045 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,540 the purchase sighed attached to 1046 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:35,130 the site? 1047 00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:37,140 What's it been definitively 1048 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:38,300 that would be the method of 1049 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,530 attachment. 1050 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:40,590 >> So this is a solid brick 1051 00:36:40,590 --> 00:36:42,650 bearing wall or is so there's 1052 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:44,120 no. And in the wall system 1053 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,790 itself, it's it's solid brick 1054 00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:48,300 with the joists that would be 1055 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:49,400 right up against the inside 1056 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,900 face of that. And there should 1057 00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:52,270 be 1058 00:36:52,270 --> 00:36:53,870 oftentimes there's only one, 1059 00:36:53,870 --> 00:36:56,270 maybe 2 or 3 middle connectors 1060 00:36:57,490 --> 00:36:59,270 clamping that his side to that 1061 00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:00,730 choice. 1062 00:37:00,730 --> 00:37:02,200 We didn't observe any at this 1063 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,620 location to this really isn't a 1064 00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:04,790 traditional balloon 1065 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:06,570 construction. It's a learned in 1066 00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:08,110 the sense that it's a bearing 1067 00:37:08,110 --> 00:37:09,350 wall that's continuously bill 1068 00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:10,570 that's not interrupted by the 1069 00:37:10,570 --> 00:37:12,320 Florida system on the West 1070 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,370 elevations. You mean Oh, 1071 00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:16,000 yeah, yeah. So no wood, no wood 1072 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,400 wall for a minute. 1073 00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,100 >> Any other questions? 1074 00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:24,970 >> The demolition of Bradley's. 1075 00:37:24,970 --> 00:37:26,660 I do confirm that that that 1076 00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:27,570 that was the cause of some 1077 00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:29,970 others that amateurs, that 1078 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,660 search. And I'm just and that 1079 00:37:31,660 --> 00:37:33,700 of the doubt it. 1080 00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:34,320 >> Windows were blown out 1081 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,500 during the demolition. And that 1082 00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,180 was that they were I wasn't 1083 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:39,520 there at the time. And so the 1084 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,220 adequate monitoring that which 1085 00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:42,800 they did say during the 1086 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,320 construction of the new site 1087 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,200 wasn't done and the same way, 1088 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,260 there were multiple points of 1089 00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:47,810 monitoring. All of this is 1090 00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:49,590 Stuart, it by these 2 gentleman 1091 00:37:49,590 --> 00:37:51,160 to my left. This is also the 1092 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,540 first full-time facilities 1093 00:37:52,540 --> 00:37:53,820 manager we've had in my 1094 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,390 lifetime and I'm almost 60's. 1095 00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:57,440 So the stewardship wasn't 1096 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,550 necessarily there. So I can 1097 00:37:59,550 --> 00:38:01,150 only provide anecdotal 1098 00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:02,360 evidence, unquote, some of the 1099 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,820 people saying, yes, but I think 1100 00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:05,470 compounding with the 1101 00:38:05,470 --> 00:38:08,170 the The Deep Tunnel project, 1102 00:38:08,170 --> 00:38:09,630 which is also chronicled is 1103 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:10,780 having caused damage to the 1104 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:12,350 annex because that's a 1105 00:38:12,350 --> 00:38:13,480 different 1106 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,770 footing than the rest of the 1107 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:16,150 building being that that's 18 1108 00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:17,970 82. And that's 19. 0, 3, 1109 00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:20,370 all exacerbated the problem 1110 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:26,660 that all the dust across the 1111 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,130 office after they imploded the 1112 00:38:28,130 --> 00:38:30,130 Bradley Center. 1113 00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,100 All right. 1114 00:38:34,210 --> 00:38:36,140 To have a motion on this on. 1115 00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:38,140 >> Tom O. 1116 00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:39,950 >> And the motion is to approve 1117 00:38:39,950 --> 00:38:41,950 with chef conditions. 1118 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:48,730 >> Nick, we can hear you too. 1119 00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:50,730 Well, 1120 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,520 he's there to even sorry. 1121 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,880 Okay. There you go. Where you 1122 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,310 say something to us. Nic. 1123 00:38:57,310 --> 00:38:59,910 Know a good bit. All right. 1124 00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:01,640 >> Ok, so we've got a motion. 1125 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,710 Do I have a second that all 1126 00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:06,160 right on favor. Aye. Aye. 1127 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,470 Aye motion carries. There we 1128 00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:09,750 go. Thank you. Thank you, 1129 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:11,750 France. Awesome can. 1130 00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:14,920 All right. We will now take up 1131 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,320 item 7 through 27 as staff 1132 00:39:17,870 --> 00:39:19,520 approve certificates of 1133 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,980 appropriateness to have a 1134 00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:24,180 motion to approve. So most of 1135 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:26,660 all right, second on the other. 1136 00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:29,600 I I I'm right. 1137 00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:32,950 Well, that's go to item. 1138 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:35,880 28, the review and approval of 1139 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,130 the minutes from the last 1140 00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:39,130 meeting on 7/6/2026. All 1141 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:41,340 commissioners have seen and 1142 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:44,270 reviewed the minutes to a have 1143 00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:46,670 a motion for approving 1144 00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:48,850 so off. All right. During the 1145 00:39:48,850 --> 00:39:50,850 second. 1146 00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:53,130 All in favor. Aye. All right. 1147 00:39:53,130 --> 00:39:55,530 I updates and announcements. 1148 00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:57,450 I'm just gonna keep putting 1149 00:39:57,450 --> 00:39:59,450 this up here. 1150 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,500 Alright, October 14th through 1151 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,500 the 18th, right? 16, 16, 1152 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,270 sorry. Local history and 1153 00:40:08,270 --> 00:40:09,200 historic Preservation 1154 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,200 Conference downtown Milwaukee 1155 00:40:11,330 --> 00:40:13,330 here. 1156 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:16,780 Put it on our calendars. 1157 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,190 We'll put it on our calendars. 1158 00:40:18,190 --> 00:40:20,210 All right. Any other updates or 1159 00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:22,210 announcements 1160 00:40:23,650 --> 00:40:24,980 any other any commissioners 1161 00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:26,570 have any updates or 1162 00:40:26,570 --> 00:40:27,940 announcements doesn't feel 1163 00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:29,170 right to close this early, 1164 00:40:29,170 --> 00:40:30,350 but maybe. 1165 00:40:30,350 --> 00:40:32,750 All right. A thing. 1166 00:40:33,370 --> 00:40:34,780 Do you have a motion to 1167 00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:36,780 adjourn? 1168 00:40:37,830 --> 00:40:39,410 >> All right. Second second, 1169 00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:41,810 alright on favor. Aye.