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Good morning, everyone. We're going to first off, make sure your phones are off, so you don't get interrupted by my mute.

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If we could please call the roll for the third installment of the Capitol Improvement Committee.

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Could many members Rowland here

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capriolo here

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Sonner excuse

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Stand around here

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Layers here bouquet widths

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Here

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McBride

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Here

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Mr. Chairman here. There are seven members president two appearing virtually. We have a quorum. All right

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So today we're going to obviously make a recommendation to the

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administration on our capital priorities. I see supervisor or supervisor.

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Comptroller Sumner is here, so she's no longer skews. She's here. Not on time, but you know, okay.

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Okay. So we're going to obviously go through this agenda. We're going to

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I was to take care of the minutes, then we're going to talk about the IJCC project and then hit up

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binding and cash. So I want to first off before we start thank all the staff that has spent

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the

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jump show. Thanks. Thanks staff for all the work they've done to put in this. This was a very

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As you're going to see, this was a very complex year,

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due to the fact that our cash levels went from 14.6 million

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to 7.7 million after the second meeting.

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So the amount of meetings behind the scenes

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that were taking place, there was a lot of them

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to try to figure this out.

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So please call it number one.

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Item one, approval of a minute from the August 12,

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2020 six capital improvements committee CIC meeting

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I'll call approval of

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make a motion make a motion all right I'd rather coffee this morning we're ready for

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this okay please call the role on the motion by committee member Capriola that

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item number one be approved committee members Rowling I Capriola I

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Sonner?

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Aye.

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Sen Ram?

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Aye.

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Layers?

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Aye.

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Okay, let's.

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Aye.

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McBride?

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McBride?

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Mr. Chairman?

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Seven eyes.

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Zero nose.

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The motion prevails.

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We're going to call items two and three together.

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Item two.

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An action report from the Department of Administrative Services requesting authorization for capital funding for the investing and justice courthouse complex project.

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Project WC0276, scope up to 857, million 948,000.

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This file is also very far to this committee capital improvements committee, the committee

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on community environment and economic development for informational purposes only for section

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59.608 with constant state statutes and is referred to the committee on finance.

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Item 3, review and discussion of Capital Project WC0276, IJCCC, and related 2027 funding requests

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and consideration of the anticipated September board action item, estimated by the Department

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of Administrative Services and the Office of Strategy, Budget, and Performance.

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The Capital Improvements Committee may take action for someone to chapter 36 of the Milwaukee

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County Code of General Ortenances.

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Alright. Good morning, Mr. Chair and committee members. My name is Ashley Edsett, Director of Project and Performance Management within the Office of Strategy Budget and Performance.

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We have our investing in Justice Court House Complex Project here, happy to share presentation, but also just field questions from the committee as well.

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You want to present your.

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I'm going to.

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I think it's a representation.

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I'm correct, right?

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It's a representation of a.

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We can focus and this is the file that we submitted for September's Board

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cycle.

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So, happy to share.

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We'll focus in on the recommendation that will be in front of seat committee as well as finance committee this next month.

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Is this similar to what was presented last the last meeting?

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The first portion, laying on the foundational background, to it would be similar to content you've seen before.

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All right. We'll focus on the recommended impacts of the program, and I'll let you introduce yourself.

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So, certainly assisting Director Addison here in Jeremy Lucas acting, Deputy Chief of Staff,

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Officer the County Executive David Crowley.

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I'm going to go through recommendations here.

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One.

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Sounds good.

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So, in front of the board, this next month, we'll be a recommendation to fund the full scope

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of the Investing and Justice Court House homeless complex project.

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It includes multiple elements here from the new Criminal Court House building itself,

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as well as demolition, enabling phase investments,

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and some of the other supporting line items.

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The total amount of the project is estimated at $896 million.

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Because the county has already invested $38 million,

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what's being requested for capital funding is $857 million

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to cover all of the activities to move us forward

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from 2027 through 2033 where the project would be concluded.

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There are alternate as part of the recommendation that are not part of that base scope, not part of that $857 million.

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Those are listed here on this slide.

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That is something that could be under consideration by the board as priorities move forward.

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Additionally, there are five-year capital projects that are already in the five-year plan.

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That could be in some way associated with the work that's already been done in the courthouse complex.

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We have some examples listed here, there are opportunities to move some of these items or an investment of about 50 million dollars into the IJCC scope to support some of the efficiencies that could be achieved by aligning those projects with the overall IJCC project.

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the examples listed here on this slide, let's take some impacts, what we're looking at.

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What you'll see here is that this report differs from the ones that you received earlier

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and that we have been able to make some forecasting on when those bodies would occur,

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kind of when those impacts would get hit. So what you see here is that the estimated at this point

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GMPs. That's the guaranteed maximum price packages that we would work with our

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our builder on. And so you'll see kind of the first one when it would be done April of 2027.

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That includes the pre-construction enabling work etc. That is really mainly getting this building

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the historic court house ready to move everyone in. Following up the following year,

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to like 225 million demolitions, site prep foundations really just starting to tear down the old safety building,

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do some foundation work and prepare it for the full construction which would occur the year after which would be kind of the bulk of the project

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cost in around 500 and 8 million.

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And so that's how kind of the early forecasting of the funding lays out of course subject to movement in one direction or another as we get final construction.

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Here's just broken down the issuance of the bonds like the author's

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issued to issue bonds here kind of breaking it down principle and interest over time.

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And ideally as we're able to fund it through possible like more support from state

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aids, grants as we get construction documents done for different areas.

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These will decrease over time, but right now we're asking for authority to execute the project

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And then here is a visual for everyone to see kind of like when those property tax impacts are likely to hit.

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So borrowing in 2728 then, you know, as we move through the consecutive GMPs, that obviously continues to grow to that average cost of about 137 on a $250,000 value at home.

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and then, of course, kind of as the debt falls off.

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And again, I would just caveat that the

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comptroller's offices are bonding authority per second.

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Saying they decide how to arrange that, what it looks like, how long it goes. So, some of these will change, but this is really just for information for the board to know exactly kind of what to expect from a scope and scale.

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Again, so we were looking to really, the recommendation is that we continue to use cash financing over the life of the projects, specifically during the construction to help ensure that the county capital program continues.

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should there be points where we do not have appropriate cash and the items in the project are

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not bond eligible. That would certainly impact the county's capital program. I know Chair

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Taylor mentioned there was a dip in cash funding available this year. Certainly if we do not

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continue to provide some cash for this project over time, you would expect to see that again

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in years down the road really pinching those projects that need to get done with cash funding.

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So the recommendation is to continue to fund it with the freed up funding that we currently have.

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And then after the bonds are hit, ideally we can continue to offset the taxpayer impacts by using that to pay off debt service and not hit property taxpayers.

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And then again, like this is just for clarity, you know, the scope includes status quo,

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IGCC approach from File 266564.

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Again, it provides that consistent funding framework

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for the capital projects to continue year over year.

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This project would occur outside of the annual budgeting

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process other than the cash appropriations year over year

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during the construction time frame and moving forward.

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So just as an generational investment,

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looking to build a building for 100 more years,

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And a building that is flexible and executes the justice system effectively and efficiently.

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Any questions?

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You committee members?

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Quick question.

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The,

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Would you come back to slide 23, the $137?

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Is that including us using the cash if we didn't, it's not correct?

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So this amount would be reduced if the board decided to continue to use that cash.

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Way was intended for from the state.

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So this is without a state.

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Correct.

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That's what we're asking the question here.

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So that doesn't include a track.

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So that number would come down if we're using for supplementing with the crash.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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That's what we're bound to do at all.

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All right.

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Do we have a motion from any one on committee?

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Sure.

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Chair Taylor, thank you, when it's appropriate or if it's appropriate now, I'd like to make a motion that the CIC committee recommends the project and then it would go forward to be considered by the joint finance and seed committee as well as the full board.

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Your motion.

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Yes, please.

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Discussion on that motion.

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Yeah, I guess my question is are we approving this then outside of the on funding that we are.

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that we're looking at for this many separate from that, correct?

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So do we not, we don't need to remove it from the project list.

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We can just vote for, we can just say that we approve it.

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We've already pretty much taken it out.

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I mean, when our previous page, we talked about that being separate in,

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we would stick with this process of capital projects.

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So, I don't think we have to necessarily do any about taking it out, but it's going to

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end up.

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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Chair and Vince Masterson, capital of budget coordinator.

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Two things.

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So, with the motion to recommend supportive IJCC project, and then when we get into item

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before when you look at the amendments that we have in there, you'll go through and approve

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the various projects. So the IJC, C, Cash and Bond amount is in there. You just exclude

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that or not include that as part of the overall project request list or recommended project

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list in item four. Does that make sense?

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If there hasn't been a second, I will second

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to motion. This is Mayor McBride.

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Well, we don't need a second, but thank you.

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We're doomed anyway.

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So, any other questions, any other discussions? So, basically, this committee would be saying to the administration and saying to take us out there that we support this project.

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We just are separate from the actual capital improvement process. It can't do it.

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And we've had that presentation before to both finance and seed of, you know, the cost of not moving forward with normal capital projects.

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Things just more, more emergencies come up, things get more expensive.

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And so I think what this committee has decided, which is what the Board pretty much, I think to say as well, is just continue to fund capital projects within a lot of the market.

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you're giving and then this is a separate board all together.

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All right. Please call the roll.

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And it's will be for item three obviously.

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I'm three. I'm two.

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On the motion by.

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Committee member of fanroom that item three be approved.

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Committee members, Robin.

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Capriolo.

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Sumner.

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Hi.

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Sunram.

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Hi.

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Layers.

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Bouquetless.

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Hi.

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McBride, McBride,

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and Mr. Chairman, eight eyes, zero nose, the motion prevails.

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Thank you.

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All right, I'm number four.

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Item four, Capital Improvements Committee Review of Department of Request for the 2027 through 2031, Capital Improvements Plan.

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The Capital Improvements Committee may take action for someone to chapter 36 of the Milwaukee County Code of General Ordinance is.

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We're ready.

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All right.

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So Chairman Supervisors, again, Vince Masterson,

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Capital Budget Coordinator, Office of Strategy, Budget and Performance.

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There was a memo that we did include related to the change,

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to an adjusted amount, do you have a brief power point

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that can kind of go through as an explanation?

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Great, so this will be fairly brief run through of the memo.

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But the original purpose of the memo has provided

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was to explain any potential variances or differences

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between the CIC's original cache basis,

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which is the 14.6 million and what may be the cash funded projects in the county executives

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budget that we're currently working on. So we have that natural overlap as we've worked

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through the execs budget over the summer and then the CIC review that occurs current now.

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So we have the 14.6 million again that the CIC uses as its basis, the 20% cash goal.

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the CX anticipated amount that we have right now is roughly about 7.7 million and that would

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leave about a $6.9 million gap for non-IGCC projects.

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And then we'll just kind of go over kind of the basis and some of the background for this.

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So again, the 20% cash goal, again the 14.6 million dollars, that represents the 20% of the

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county funded share of capital projects that's tried to reach.

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No, it's important to know that it is a county policy,

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but that it is a goal and a target, not a specific cash requirement.

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And it's not also a guaranteed amount, again, it's a goal.

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And it's really a planning tool that we use, essentially,

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the best practice framework that we applied during the capital planning process.

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Now, some of the reasons why the CIC has historically used this cash goal is that it gives really a predictable, stable benchmark year over year.

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And we also have used this over the last several years as the CIC cash basis. And again, for this year,

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2027 that amount 14.6 applied to non-IJCC projects.

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Now, on the county executive's cash basis, it's done a little bit differently.

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They need, although the 20% cash goal is something that is tried to be attained during

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the execs budget basis. The difference here is that the executive's budget has limited tax

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delivery flexibility because we have operating capital budgets that are both competing

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for the same cash dollars. So we'll see for the 2026 adopted amount, we had about $23.5

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million, 15.8 of that was for the IGCC project and 7.7 for all other projects.

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So assuming that the 15.8 states of the IJCC, that 2026 space adopted amount becomes the

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2027 amount, at some point seven for the county execs budget.

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Now, some of the challenges with increasing that levy amount is that, again, we have that direct

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competition between operating and cash capital, and that's mainly due to state levy

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limits that we have, restricted to basically net new growth or net new construction growth.

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So that really limits what we can move from operating over to the cash side because the

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cost to continue year over year essentially eats up any of those limited increases that we

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do have.

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So the end result again is that we do have that, we had the original goal of 14.6 for the

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20% cash goal for the CIC, the county execs budget is 7.7 and leaving with the $6.9 million gap.

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We did revise the CIC cash amount as part of this third report to reflect the $7.7 million.

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So, community members, you will see that in the report that was provided and what we will go over today.

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So, hopefully that gives a background to folks so they can better understand the cash goal and then the reduction or rather the revision down to the 7.7 million dollars.

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So, just to recap a little bit, the last meeting is a two weeks ago.

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We said here, we talked about what projects we were going to remove, and then we knew

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we'd have a dollar amount available, and just like the previous year, Surreys are

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rolling with then kind of take a look and do some, you know, a lot of work, frankly,

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appreciate that, and come up with some recommendation based on rankings and talking to staff.

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And really, you'll see it pretty much it's the entire county and these different projects.

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We also heard from transit that we received some money as well, so that we could actually take out some additional dollars that were to be covered by federal grants.

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And that would give some money in cash, which is where you can't really be able to use to add some more projects that we heard from.

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Clerk of courts, I'm sorry, the county clerk,

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election commission, we've heard from the sheriff's department,

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CRC, so we, we were going to tackle some of these other projects

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because we had some additional freedom space.

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And then we left.

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And then in between that, we found out that we went from 14.6 to 7.7 million.

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And that changed a lot of things.

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We were wanting to present and hopefully what this committee could do and and staff had to work over time

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I think we had I had a Friday morning meeting then you worked over the weekend

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There was late emails Friday night

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There was a Monday morning meeting. We were trying to figure out this agenda yesterday even at 830 in the morning

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So I like I said it became this the staff worked very hard to get us to this point where I think we have some really good recommendations

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I mean they're still so much. I need to be done

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But this is the least I think, uh, puzzles.

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So, would your recommendation be that we first up we have questions?

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Prior to receiving the allotment for a highway patrol from the State Government, what was our cash,

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what did we normally have for a cash amount for cash finance projects?

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Chairman Supervisors, it would still be the 14.6, where you would just lay around the 15.8 plus the 14.6.

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So I think at this point, we were looking at, because we were in that 15.8, and cash kind of held separately for the IGCC,

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and that 14.6 then represents the calculated goal to reach the 20%.

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So if you added the 15.8 on top of that, you'd be at, you know,

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it's probably 20% percent, or Sun, you're doubling that.

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Okay, I guess I'm just slightly confused about exactly how this number was arrived at.

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Like, because the state highway patrol money was going to be an additional amount of money, right,

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that we received, so shouldn't that be on, that should be on top of.

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How is that affecting the cash amount that we have to spend on capital projects?

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Chairman of Supervisor, it's now, we're basically looking at non-IGCC projects here.

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That's why we kind of split off the 15.8 from the 14.6.

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So, here's kind of a...

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Maybe I'm just not understanding how you get to the 7.7, then.

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Great.

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So pretend that we're going to prevent the 15.8 that express mine.

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But that doesn't exist.

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That doesn't exist.

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Right.

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So then I think your question is, how do we lose 6.9 million?

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Correct.

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That's the question that she's asking that needs to be clearly laid out to people in her stand.

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Chairman Supervisor.

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So the adopted amount was for cash capital Lester was 23.5.

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15.8 of that was for the IJCC.

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7.7 is for non-IJCC.

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That $7.7 million is essentially what the county executive has to work for, as is base available cash in the 2027 budget.

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So, when you take 14.6, which was the calculated amount of the cash, the 20% cash goal for 2027, less the 7.7, you get the 6.9 million dollar gap.

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one other way to look at it is what and so what's the 7.7?

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I think the speakers muted

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so I'm going to do kind of a quick calculation here to say

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illustrated

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so our cash cap we can't hear well it's like

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a testing testing can anyone

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hear me

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we're checking out some what sounds like some technical difficulties I see

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Justin Blinsky's hand is raised, but we'll get to you once we get this question answered.

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I don't know if he can hear us.

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Yeah, I think he can hear us.

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No, the problem was we couldn't hear you for about five minutes.

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Dan was.

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Yeah, okay.

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So, do you can hear us now, right?

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Yes.

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So, were you guys missed?

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What did you guys miss?

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They said everything after the Controllers question was muted.

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Okay.

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We're going to get ready. Yeah, all right. So we're going to guess the answer to.

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Okay, so I think I'll blow this up here

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So the total available county funding for twenty twenty seven is and it was presented at the first speed is

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7773.1 million dollars. That's cash, cash and bond. So there's a bond amount, the point

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about 80 percent. Our 20 percent cash goal is right here, the 14.6 to get us there. So that's

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how that is calculated. It's our total amount as a 73. It's essentially you take 80 percent

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of that, of the bond amount, and then the remainder percent is the 4.6 gets to the 73.14.

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How we develop the 20% cash, is that, is that it?

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No, I think ultimately what the answer is is that we just, we don't have a full $14 million

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to put towards the cash financing.

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And the money that we're getting from the state is what it is, but all that we're left with is this amount of money.

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And so there's no, I don't, I think what my question is is probably just irrelevant. This is what it is.

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Chairman, committee members.

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There's a formula.

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There's a formula to get to it.

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So then what would next year be?

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Would next year be 7.7 or next year be 14.6.

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You're looking at two things.

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So when you back up, the 20% goal is the cash policy.

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We try to get to the 20% cash goal each year, right?

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So it's a goal.

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It's not set determined dollars that the board has earmarked

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with the county expectations.

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Earmarked that we are going to do this, right?

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We are operating within statutory,

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or within state statutory constraints for our tax levy limit.

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So we are limited in terms of how much we can raise our levy.

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That levy is competing with operating services and cash capital.

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So we can only increase it so much.

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So although we want to reach that 20% cash goal,

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we're limited to essentially our starting point

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is that $7.7 million, let me back up here, that $7.7 million that was adopted in 2026.

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Now the county executive in the county board can choose to say, we really wanted to

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obtain that 14.6, but we're going to reduce some services over on the operating side for

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at 6.9 million gap and move that on over into cash capital to try and meet that goal.

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So the exact can do that and the board can do that in October and November.

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We could recommend that too.

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Correct.

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Right.

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And that's essentially the CAC has been doing that the last several years.

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And kind of a positive way and because it lists out kind of the priority of projects,

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you know, if you have additional money, let's say in this case, if the exec says,

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you know what, I think we can get maybe $9 or $10 million instead of the 7.7,

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we can refer to that list during the exec phase as kindergarten board and say,

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okay, these are the next ones about that 7.7 million that we're highly recommended.

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let's look at that. These might be good, good fits, and we can fund those, because we found

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an extra $2 million or $3 million in cash.

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And you'll see that in the recommendation that's guy will present, so if we can build a

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present, it's like $700,000. There's a project that puts it $700,000 over. That we're saying,

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it's a priority. The executive can find $700,000 or cut elsewhere, or we can just take it out

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and then we can deliberate at the board level

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whether we add or not.

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But essentially, it would come out operating,

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anything that we go above and beyond the 7.7,

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there'd be more additional cuts to the operating side.

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You essentially, yeah, that's your main lever.

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Well next year, being a different than this,

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what is this 7.7 going to be the new number moving forward?

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I think Chairman Supervisor, it depends a year to year, right?

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I think when we did the July report related to the IJCC and we were projecting out, available

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cash funding for non-IJCC projects, our current estimate was probably anywhere between 7

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and 1.5 to 9.5 million dollars, over the next few years, over the next several years.

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You know, it's hard to determine what will change in the future, but

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I will say that based on, you know,

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Current state statute, and we're ending up with operating in the cost of continuing. We're probably going to be around that range.

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Any other questions? I suppose we're blinsky.

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Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess one option that we haven't considered here is, I mean, we could theoretically take that state money and use that to plug that $6 million gap, right?

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Well, anything's possible, but I think the reality still is whether you like it or not, that that's not the intent of it.

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We can, and you and I have argued this over and over many times and just we're never going

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to agree, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this,

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but yes, you could.

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That's all

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good.

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Mr. Chair, I just also wanted to point out that the value of that $14 million goal is

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that that's, you know, a prudent goal because it prevents additional borrowing.

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And so we are also achieving that goal by dedicating the 15.8 million to the IGCC project.

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So I just wanted to make sure we don't lose sight of that.

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that that positive that the committee has done in terms of meeting that cash goal in another way.

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Are there any questions from all committee members? Anybody in the audience have a question?

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All right.

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Seeing none.

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We should then hit probably airport.

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Is that would be the plan?

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That would be great.

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All right.

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So let's take off the airport bond first.

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Everybody can see that okay, hopefully.

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So there's three projects.

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Three projects.

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I'm sorry, yep, these are the three bond projects here for 21.7.

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I'm just thinking about this now, the airport never showed up for this.

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The airport never, no one from the airport was here.

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Do we spend more than, this is the most time we're going to be spending on the airport,

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is right now, and no one spoke on it.

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We have multiple.

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Just a Chairman, the recommended projects were on the list and there was nothing outside

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of the list.

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That wasn't recommended.

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I believe there was someone available online the last meeting.

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There was no, typically what departments, departments can present on whatever they want, but

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the main purpose of presenting would be if you're from a department who has a project

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that's below the line, you want to come make the case for that project and the airport

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didn't have any.

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I'll

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make a motion to approve.

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Any discussion?

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See none.

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All right.

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On the motion by.

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Committee member Lamers that the airport wants to be approved.

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Rowling.

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Hi.

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Capriolo.

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Sumner.

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Hi.

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Sinram.

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I.

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Layers.

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Okay.

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Let's.

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Aye.

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Make bride.

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Aye.

448
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Mr. Chairman.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Eight eyes.

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Zero knows.

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Demotion.

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Prevails.

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All right.

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We'll take your poor cash.

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Any questions?

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Your motion.

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I'm a good option.

460
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Thank you.

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Please call the roll.

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On the motion.

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Buy committee members.

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Sumner that airport cash be approved.

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Committee members.

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Rowland. Hi. Capriolo. Hi. Sumner. Hi. Sinram. Hi. Layers. Hi. Bucharest. Hi. McBride. Hi. Mr. Sharon. Hi.

467
00:39:47,230 --> 00:39:49,530
Eight eyes, zero nose, emotion prevails.

468
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:58,290
We're going to take up now. Now, they're the fun begins. We're going to take up the bonding.

469
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:59,970
And I'm not here.

470
00:40:00,530 --> 00:40:11,730
And that will be summarized. Well, if you don't have this amendment in front of you, I believe it is posted in the legislature as a link for anybody to take a look at.

471
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:19,330
Number one, thank you to the chairman for a clear verdict. So, well, I think how we got to this amendment,

472
00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:26,470
we kind of set up sites, a sense of like what are our values, what are the guardrails, right?

473
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:30,150
Number one, any kind of amendment needs to be fiscally responsible.

474
00:40:30,910 --> 00:40:34,030
It has to address what we've heard in these CIC meetings.

475
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:38,450
It has to solve advisor challenges that have been brought to us.

476
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:44,170
Inside and outside of these meetings, we have to follow the rankings that have been established

477
00:40:44,170 --> 00:40:49,430
that the board has approved and the county executive has adopted to stick with that scoring

478
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:52,410
system as much as we can.

479
00:40:52,410 --> 00:41:00,110
Make life better across the county, obviously, don't put the thumb on the scale for any one

480
00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:07,090
particular area, just be fair and thoughtful and strategic, and don't add too many

481
00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:13,210
projects that have continuing costs, like huge continuing costs in additional year in

482
00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:14,030
later years.

483
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:22,390
So future county boards would feel like they can't possibly get to every significant cost later

484
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:26,610
So those were the guardrails and we got to work working with the administration, work

485
00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:33,990
with departments that were part of that submitted bond related projects, worked with

486
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:38,930
members of the Comptroller's office to identify, you know, both strategies and risks

487
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:46,290
that are associated with different ideas that were posed and we ultimately or I ultimately

488
00:41:46,290 --> 00:41:55,690
arrives on a amendment that would do a number of things. One we heard from MCTS that their

489
00:41:55,690 --> 00:42:03,230
number one need was barriers for better bus safety, this amendment funds it. We have more

490
00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:08,050
than 20 playgrounds across the county that are due to be replaced. They're aging, they need

491
00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:14,290
to be replaced with something else. And in past years we've made a replace two or three annually

492
00:42:14,290 --> 00:42:20,550
of this amendment would rebuild 12 across our county and resurfaces even more.

493
00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:26,570
It fixes tenants and pickleball at Brown Deer, those of new splash pad at Willoway for kids

494
00:42:26,570 --> 00:42:32,270
with disabilities to enjoy. It creates a lot of good. It fixes roads. It brings improvements

495
00:42:32,270 --> 00:42:37,990
to our senior centers and our zoo that we heard from in committee. It finally fixes some of

496
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:45,070
our pot-hole parking lots at Cooper Park, and at Scout Lake, and in a big picture I think what

497
00:42:45,070 --> 00:42:50,850
people often say to me is they wonder whether their tax money goes because we're often

498
00:42:50,850 --> 00:42:55,970
fixing a lot of things that are like back-of-the-house problems, like laptops, and age-back

499
00:42:55,970 --> 00:43:01,830
systems, and electrical equipment, and all the stuff that they can't see, this event would

500
00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:07,230
invest money where people live their lives in their parks, in our buses, in our senior centers

501
00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:12,790
that our families use every day. And it also keeps us $9,000 under the traditional bonding

502
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:18,150
cap. So I'll move approval or adoption of this amendment and happy to take any questions.

503
00:43:21,530 --> 00:43:23,990
Can we have questions for?

504
00:43:24,570 --> 00:43:32,270
Yeah. So we're on the bonding items. Okay. So there's quite a few on the bottom there that

505
00:43:32,270 --> 00:43:38,170
all say new. So they weren't considered in our current list of capital projects. I guess I just

506
00:43:38,170 --> 00:43:41,010
to understand how those projects were chosen.

507
00:43:41,850 --> 00:43:46,070
I think it's also important to note that part of the charter of this committee is that we include

508
00:43:46,070 --> 00:43:55,030
a racial equity criteria component when we are evaluating projects and I'm wondering if that

509
00:43:55,030 --> 00:44:01,230
component was taken into consideration in addition any of the other scoring criteria that are

510
00:44:01,230 --> 00:44:08,030
to rate projects. And if they were, then that's great, but if not, I guess I'd like an explanation

511
00:44:08,030 --> 00:44:15,830
as to how we're supposed to take these into consideration then. I will also note that of the projects

512
00:44:15,830 --> 00:44:21,450
here I've calculated out about $32 million in out gear costs.

513
00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:25,670
So just an explanation on that,

514
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:31,390
And then I would also like to hear from the departments and then also any supervisors that

515
00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:38,070
would be affected by some of the change in the remove reduced areas as well.

516
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:41,110
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

517
00:44:41,370 --> 00:44:42,310
Thank you, Madam Comptroller.

518
00:44:43,570 --> 00:44:45,030
So let me take it as one by one.

519
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:53,930
A number, I would say almost all of the projects that are marked new are part playgrounds

520
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:59,530
that were part of the 2 to 5 year, like, outlist on the Capital Improvements list.

521
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,860
And reaching out to Deputy Director Tarantino and Executive Director Geist Smith, reached out to them to say,

522
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:17,620
what are the playgrounds that are next up on the list based on the scoring criteria that we have?

523
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:25,880
What are the next in a 10 or 15 that would be on the list that didn't make the 2027 list,

524
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,200
but could have just didn't for whatever reason.

525
00:45:31,180 --> 00:45:33,640
So Deputy Director Tarantino put together that list,

526
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,060
sent it around to me in a couple of other us to say,

527
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:42,740
this is the playgrounds that we would recommend

528
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,700
in the order that we would recommend them.

529
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,820
And with the money that was available

530
00:45:46,820 --> 00:45:49,440
with some of the reductions that were available,

531
00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:53,100
we were able to find all of the ones on the list.

532
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,320
I don't know if you'd like to speak to that.

533
00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:04,180
Any greater detail if I can, if I can just ask one other question to, it's, it's unclear to me if, if all the full criteria was taken into consideration.

534
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:07,300
So if Mr. Masterson could speak on that as well.

535
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:08,500
The full criteria.

536
00:46:13,130 --> 00:46:20,490
Chairman committee members, so out your projects don't typically go through the full scoring criteria that we have,

537
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:23,590
roughly 10 criteria that's reserved for year one projects.

538
00:46:23,590 --> 00:46:29,470
So, any of the new projects which again are out years that were submitted as part of the

539
00:46:29,470 --> 00:46:34,550
2027-2031 Requestion Parks that was did not go through that scoring process.

540
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:41,430
The scoring that is available for out-year projects are the department priorities that

541
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:53,070
are assigned to each project that is the only scoring methodology that is applied to the

542
00:46:53,070 --> 00:46:55,550
Thank you.

543
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:57,150
Just a good morning.

544
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:58,710
Chair Supervisors, Jim Tarantino,

545
00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:00,310
Deputy Director for Milwaukee County Parks.

546
00:47:00,310 --> 00:47:02,190
Just want to confirm and reiterate with

547
00:47:02,190 --> 00:47:04,270
Supervisor Rowland was saying that

548
00:47:04,270 --> 00:47:06,170
High level of communication on

549
00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:07,810
Halley's projects were selected.

550
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:10,750
These were from our next top 10 of

551
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:13,190
playgrounds that need replacement based on

552
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:15,950
age and condition of those sites.

553
00:47:16,690 --> 00:47:19,030
And they were pulled from our five year

554
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:20,110
capital improvement plan.

555
00:47:20,110 --> 00:47:28,410
anything with the TBD in the project number, but those costs, those expenses are reflect

556
00:47:28,410 --> 00:47:35,250
accurately what the cost of a Class II Class III and a playground, as the case may be.

557
00:47:35,810 --> 00:47:41,410
We had one of each of those in our 27 requests already, so the costs are accurate, whether

558
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:49,930
it's green noise, matelin, cut a hay, grant park beach, or hails corners, or a little

559
00:47:49,930 --> 00:47:58,410
those are good stand-ins from existing playgrounds that were on the list, Jakoba Sublaki, etc., etc.

560
00:47:58,570 --> 00:48:02,750
So I just want to, I think that was in your question about, you know, how are these

561
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:06,670
scoped or how are the budgets established?

562
00:48:07,090 --> 00:48:11,530
Playgrounds are, they're not all exactly the same, but they are relatively similar.

563
00:48:13,470 --> 00:48:19,430
Can you also speak to the removal and the reduce on the Washington Park Building and Service

564
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:21,350
start in the Wittner golf course irrigation?

565
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:25,450
Yeah, so again, high level of coordination and communication

566
00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:27,010
with us, we knew that that was coming.

567
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:29,350
We discussed the last meeting too,

568
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:32,650
that the Washington Park Service Yard, while our staff

569
00:48:32,650 --> 00:48:36,030
do need a better working environment in Washington Park.

570
00:48:36,450 --> 00:48:39,190
We understand that at $13 million roughly,

571
00:48:39,390 --> 00:48:41,110
that that is just a high dollar amount

572
00:48:41,110 --> 00:48:43,090
for a project of that kind.

573
00:48:43,830 --> 00:48:47,350
And this is now multiple years of asking for that

574
00:48:47,350 --> 00:48:52,210
finding it a hard fit for where we're at with other competing priorities.

575
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:58,330
So we knew that that was coming and the communication was, this was a parks project so

576
00:48:58,330 --> 00:49:01,210
other parks projects would get funded by its replacement.

577
00:49:02,350 --> 00:49:07,410
We will have to take a hard look at that project if we've spent several years designing

578
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:13,730
service yards and there is a sunk cost and in that so we know what service yard reconstruction

579
00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:19,750
should look like, but finding out that the end result, the construction phase is 13 million

580
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:24,270
and that, as through conversation, been deemed just too much to pay for a project like that.

581
00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:29,290
I think we're going to have to take a look at what we do to re-approach that project in the future.

582
00:49:29,770 --> 00:49:37,170
For Whitnell golf course irrigation, the original request was for roughly 3.9 million for the first phase

583
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:44,150
of a project that included, replacing the irrigation system and selling car paths,

584
00:49:44,510 --> 00:49:48,830
teas, bunkers, and greens, and some other hard-scape improvements at Whitnell Golf

585
00:49:48,830 --> 00:49:49,190
course.

586
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:55,010
The total cost of that project over three years is 9.1 million, similar conversation

587
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:58,810
that that's just too much to fit within the county's capital budget.

588
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,440
We were asked to prioritize what's the most urgent need within that project, and it is the irrigation

589
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:10,340
system that, from our staff's perspective, they are digging handholes and repairing piping

590
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,400
our golf staff are on a daily basis. So that is the most urgent need. We understood that

591
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,080
we need to rescope that entire project with some redesign of the irrigation system, but that

592
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,760
reduction of 900,000 would leave the balance of 3 million. And that in our estimation

593
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,100
would be able to fund the replacement of that irrigation system, which again was the highest priority

594
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,060
as part of that whole project.

595
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:37,280
So the 900,000 is for design?

596
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:43,140
That 900,000 is a reduction of the 3.9 million, that the 3 million would remain.

597
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:49,080
We need to redesign a portion of that project, but we do know that that would be enough to

598
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:54,760
should be enough, never know until you actually go out to bed, an implement a project.

599
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,940
But it is changing the scope of that project

600
00:50:57,940 --> 00:50:59,220
to remove those other elements.

601
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,380
The cart pads, the T's bunkers and greens,

602
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,580
and other hard-scape improvements,

603
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,540
leave the irrigation and combine two phases into one phase.

604
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:09,740
So the three million would just be for irrigation.

605
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,080
So this further five million out your expenses,

606
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,180
you're re-evaluating that plus the three million?

607
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,420
We had a design project that had these multiple

608
00:51:28,420 --> 00:51:35,180
phases with the out-your-cost that total 9.1 million, we are now re-evaluating the whole project

609
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:41,340
based on the feedback from this committee, and others that irrigation needs to be prioritized,

610
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:45,500
we can't afford to do all of this cart pads in particular, which are several million.

611
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:53,160
So I think the intent here is to fund the irrigation and eliminate those other future phases

612
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,120
of the project.

613
00:51:58,020 --> 00:52:06,380
And then I guess it sounds as though the new projects have not been evaluated for the right racial equity scoring criteria.

614
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:16,590
So I guess what I'd like to know is how you proposed I guess that we overlook that particular mandate for this committee.

615
00:52:17,570 --> 00:52:26,090
I'm open to ideas, it's just with the amount of funding, again trying to prioritize projects

616
00:52:26,090 --> 00:52:31,290
that don't have that out-year cost, a lot of those kinds of projects are playgrounds,

617
00:52:32,130 --> 00:52:38,010
But there were only a handful of playground projects that were on the 20-27 list for us to

618
00:52:38,010 --> 00:52:46,410
be able to evaluate, so that's why we went into the 28 list in 2009 to look for possible

619
00:52:46,990 --> 00:52:55,690
playgrounds that we could get done. Again, they're all up for redoing. I think there certainly

620
00:52:55,690 --> 00:53:03,810
could be a process to, you know, if there's a top 13 list or 15 list and it runs through

621
00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:08,990
that criteria, I'd certainly be up for doing that. I don't, we're not going to be able to do

622
00:53:08,990 --> 00:53:15,970
that today. Again, a lot of this works is we had like a week and a half to be able to pull

623
00:53:15,970 --> 00:53:22,210
this off. If there's a separate process between now and when the counting executive reveals

624
00:53:22,210 --> 00:53:28,430
this budget that does include that criteria that maybe moves some of these in, moves some

625
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:33,870
of these out, I'm very, I'm not tied to any of these play. I don't care. To me, it was just

626
00:53:33,870 --> 00:53:38,110
more important that we get as many of these playgrounds done because of how many that we have

627
00:53:38,110 --> 00:53:45,570
languishing on the list and because of how much good it can create in the lives of families and

628
00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:52,290
quality of life, so my preference would just be to get playgrounds done, but I don't have

629
00:53:52,290 --> 00:53:58,310
a particular, you know, interesting getting any particular one done if there's a different

630
00:53:58,310 --> 00:53:59,870
way to reorder rack and stack.

631
00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:04,590
I mean, I guess, you know, part of it is that this is $5.5 million with a project and, you

632
00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:14,630
know, if there's a $3 million gap with this project at Whitnell, I guess, you know, I'm

633
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:19,650
Is that something that, you know, is that a swap that can be had?

634
00:54:19,970 --> 00:54:22,990
I mean, I, you know, I'm just, I don't know.

635
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,080
I had a question.

636
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:31,380
Basically, we took the next playgrounds that were in line,

637
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,100
and those are based on the age of playgrounds correct.

638
00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:36,400
So it's not like we picked and choose what, you know,

639
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,580
chose which community gets and we just went down the line,

640
00:54:40,060 --> 00:54:41,780
based on your schedule.

641
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,540
That's correct, and ours, our priority ranking,

642
00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:51,620
includes the racial equity lands. We have our park equity index which includes racial equity as a consideration

643
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:57,860
as well as age and condition of the site and these were the next ones up on the list.

644
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:09,960
So I just want to make sure you heard that. So I did not. They're listing of the next parks that were included, include a racial equity scoring. The parks does that.

645
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:18,380
Right. We use our park equity index agent condition to prioritize what's up next and these were the ones that were up next. So it's a different racial equity.

646
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,900
Consideration and how CIC scores projects as I understand it with Park Equity Index versus

647
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:33,300
zip code based equity data, but I just want you to know that we do use that as part of our own prioritization.

648
00:55:36,190 --> 00:55:43,790
Part of the I think part of the flaw maybe in the process is you know when you have a project that's $13 million.

649
00:55:46,070 --> 00:55:50,770
And it's been rejected, you know, more than once.

650
00:55:51,930 --> 00:55:57,790
It would have been nice to have more included in the 2027 that we could have drawn from,

651
00:55:58,570 --> 00:56:01,230
instead of having to go to 2028.

652
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:07,070
And I think what's where the Rowland did, working with parks,

653
00:56:07,690 --> 00:56:10,370
I mean, playgrounds, I think we always wanted to do like five.

654
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:16,190
And I think last year we did two, two, and then we moved, we did get

655
00:56:16,190 --> 00:56:21,190
able to do one in this year with money that we had from other projects.

656
00:56:22,370 --> 00:56:28,330
So, okay, so this year we should do seven to get to two year average of five.

657
00:56:28,610 --> 00:56:30,250
I mean, and we know what the cost.

658
00:56:30,490 --> 00:56:32,030
So we had to, in a short period of time.

659
00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:34,330
And the greatest thing is this is a recommendation to the administration.

660
00:56:34,610 --> 00:56:38,630
So they can look at this and they can follow it, or they can make changes.

661
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:43,710
and then it's in the board's hand to undo what they've done or stick with what they've done.

662
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:51,010
We're living it on time, but I think when you take a look at the projects that were moved forward,

663
00:56:52,910 --> 00:57:00,430
they followed a list in order that Parks Administration put together, that hits certain criteria.

664
00:57:01,890 --> 00:57:05,950
I understand, there is a process to the whole committee though, right, and then projects

665
00:57:05,950 --> 00:57:10,250
do end up above the line or below the line, and so I'm just trying to understand exactly

666
00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:13,310
how we arrived at this year's situation in this proposal amendment.

667
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:20,150
Which is evidence that we don't coordinate with everybody outside of these meetings, right?

668
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:25,290
We only do this in the public meeting where we can really share all of this method to the

669
00:57:25,290 --> 00:57:26,490
on this in a public meeting.

670
00:57:30,970 --> 00:57:32,690
For Deputy Director, Tarantino,

671
00:57:32,890 --> 00:57:35,310
there are a lot of parks and park projects on this

672
00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:36,850
to be approved for 2027.

673
00:57:37,090 --> 00:57:39,290
We don't have the manpower to get this all done, though, correct?

674
00:57:40,890 --> 00:57:41,890
We will find a way.

675
00:57:43,570 --> 00:57:46,130
The playground construction projects are managed

676
00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:49,370
by our landscape architect team at parks.

677
00:57:49,470 --> 00:57:52,050
Everything else we do in collaboration with A&E.

678
00:57:52,290 --> 00:57:54,990
Project managers, capacity is definitely an issue

679
00:57:54,990 --> 00:58:00,870
and something that we need to think about, however, the needs are real and need to be addressed.

680
00:58:01,130 --> 00:58:05,690
So we'll find a way to prioritize it, but appreciate the consideration about staff's capacity.

681
00:58:06,050 --> 00:58:09,330
Are you talking about the new projects overall?

682
00:58:10,090 --> 00:58:14,110
Just overall, all the ones that we're adding. It's a lot of work.

683
00:58:14,250 --> 00:58:18,590
Well, they've asked for, I guess, number one and number two, the ones that we're adding that were

684
00:58:18,590 --> 00:58:24,030
pulled ahead are basically playgrounds. I mean, and Cooper Park parking lot has already been

685
00:58:24,030 --> 00:58:30,470
designed. So I just want to know if residents are coming to me and saying, hey, we see

686
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:34,290
we're on this list. Does that mean it's going to get done in 27? I want to be able to give them

687
00:58:34,290 --> 00:58:39,330
a realistic answer that it's going to be funded but the actual work might not start until the

688
00:58:39,330 --> 00:58:43,090
end of 27 or at the beginning of 28. I just wasn't sure how that worked.

689
00:58:45,650 --> 00:58:50,450
No, that's fair. I think we can be in conversation about how to message that to residents,

690
00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:54,610
the timing and how long these projects tend to take.

691
00:58:54,810 --> 00:58:57,250
You have to get another role, Ribbon.

692
00:59:00,310 --> 00:59:02,570
Any other questions from the community members?

693
00:59:03,350 --> 00:59:03,970
Thank you.

694
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:05,610
I just want to say sort of for the record.

695
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:09,590
I had the same questions that comprol us on your head about the new projects.

696
00:59:10,670 --> 00:59:15,750
I feel pretty satisfied with the response, you know, Washington Service Yard is basically

697
00:59:16,510 --> 00:59:23,190
deprioratized here. It did seem like a lot of parks. Playgrounds on the list. But, you know,

698
00:59:23,330 --> 00:59:29,930
the one-time cost is an important factor, I think, there, and I think when the exact and the board

699
00:59:29,930 --> 00:59:34,310
prepare their budgets, you know, if there's needs to be funding from somewhere, those projects could

700
00:59:34,310 --> 00:59:39,030
potentially be looked at. But right now, I feel comfortable with that recommendation here.

701
00:59:40,770 --> 00:59:45,730
And then just from a MacDOT perspective, sharing a couple items, the bus limit replacements are now

702
00:59:45,730 --> 00:59:53,630
funded by the build grants so we don't require those funds through bonding anymore and I

703
00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:59,250
appreciate the inclusion of the Fleet Central Boiler replacement just for director that wasn't.

704
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,660
So, somebody has a minute.

705
01:00:03,460 --> 01:00:13,260
The boiler replacement wasn't spoken to at the last meeting, which was something we caught and raised to the administration that we're having boiler failures at the garage there.

706
01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:26,400
And if we continue to have issues, we might have to go without heat. So appreciate the inclusion of that project as well as the concrete yard and the driver barriers, which was discussed at the last meeting. Thank you.

707
01:00:35,010 --> 01:00:46,030
anybody else from committee, anybody audience, I do have one signed up, Mary Beth, on item four.

708
01:00:46,670 --> 01:00:54,330
I pointed at you and, and then after she realized them then I got a Mary Beth.

709
01:00:54,570 --> 01:00:55,050
Is it checking?

710
01:00:57,780 --> 01:00:58,360
Dory Court.

711
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,500
Thank you chair. Thank you committee for letting me speak. I just would like to make a couple comments.

712
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:12,140
I understand why they had to take the deduction in the amendment for the wet no golf course irrigation.

713
01:01:13,180 --> 01:01:15,300
The wet no golf course needs to be maintained.

714
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:23,560
I thank you for putting it in as number 26 in the capital improvements selections this year.

715
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:26,080
It is a great revenue maker.

716
01:01:26,260 --> 01:01:30,060
It's a great decision to put money into something that we're going to make money.

717
01:01:30,460 --> 01:01:31,420
So I thank you for that.

718
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:37,720
I also want to thank Supervisor Rollin for this amendment because a lot of our communities,

719
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:45,000
municipalities around Waki County, all would like to see something be it small, done for

720
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,160
improvement in their community.

721
01:01:48,180 --> 01:01:53,200
And with those summers that we've had recently and the hot weather, I feel it's very

722
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,540
important, especially I'm going to specify we're not opening in the health corners pool,

723
01:01:58,540 --> 01:02:01,760
But we have on the DACA to close the waiting pool.

724
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,440
So having this splash pad on here that the spray ground

725
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,940
I call them now, I'm thinking you for that.

726
01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:12,740
Because these are things we have to look at.

727
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:14,520
We have to weigh things out.

728
01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:19,140
And I appreciate you balancing everything out.

729
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,860
I'm not sure if we are allowed to be requests to be

730
01:02:23,860 --> 01:02:27,440
co-sponsors for amendments so, but if we could,

731
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:32,740
I would, you know, do that because I do appreciate you including a lot of the different

732
01:02:32,740 --> 01:02:33,420
municipalities.

733
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,060
Thank you for your work.

734
01:02:37,870 --> 01:02:40,430
Do you know for co-sponsors, is that something that's only a committee?

735
01:02:40,550 --> 01:02:41,130
It's like a committee.

736
01:02:42,010 --> 01:02:43,210
Thank you.

737
01:02:44,110 --> 01:02:44,830
Mary Beth.

738
01:02:58,420 --> 01:02:58,920
Here you go.

739
01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:59,460
Hi.

740
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:00,460
Everyone.

741
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,680
My name is Mary Beth Chekai.

742
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:04,080
I'm from Franklin, Wisconsin.

743
01:03:04,340 --> 01:03:07,220
I've never been to a meeting like this, so thanks for this opportunity.

744
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,940
I'm here to talk about Milwaukee County pools.

745
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:17,560
I've been swimming in Sheridan, Poleski, and Wilson Park pool since 1981.

746
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,740
On the positive note, the pools are maintained beautiful.

747
01:03:22,060 --> 01:03:23,280
They're lovely facilities.

748
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,020
Don't close them.

749
01:03:25,420 --> 01:03:31,220
However, I'm here to make a complaint, a concern, since I've been swimming so long.

750
01:03:31,460 --> 01:03:36,380
Poleski, pool, which is your indoor pool, Wilson Park, which is a beautiful,

751
01:03:36,380 --> 01:03:37,880
I'm unloved, exciseable, and Sheraton,

752
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:41,260
there have been no improvements since 1981.

753
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,780
You've studied it, but you haven't done anything.

754
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,420
I've compared that to the Waka Shows City of Waka Shows,

755
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,360
Bookter Pool.

756
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:53,280
They have a capital improvement for their city,

757
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,880
which is smaller than Milwaukee County.

758
01:03:55,540 --> 01:03:58,300
They studied the pool in 2020.

759
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,200
They enacted what they put while your board is talking,

760
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:08,960
a brand-new pool, they tore down their existing 1968 pool, which I think the county pools

761
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:17,900
are older than that, and built a brand-new state-of-the-art pool with a splash pad, with

762
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:22,640
lounge chairs and umbrellas, with Olympic-sized lapse swimming.

763
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:30,620
I don't understand in 35 years how you can't put on your committee and get something done

764
01:04:30,620 --> 01:04:43,120
to at least upgrade the entryways, painting, lockers, bathrooms for people who would love to swim

765
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:51,980
for exercise. Your county executive on his political platform has to improve employee health

766
01:04:51,980 --> 01:04:55,280
and residents health. This is certainly one way to reach

767
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,660
his goal and the community goal.

768
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,380
For jobs and for health.

769
01:05:03,940 --> 01:05:04,060
Thank you.

770
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:12,900
Thank you very much. I mean, we've heard this before and I guess I'll make my comments. We have a half

771
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:18,100
a billion dollars in deferred maintenance, easily in parks, the system alone, and you can't

772
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:21,700
get to everything. We have a lifeguard issue, problems, so that's why some pools are not

773
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:28,880
open. If you sat here at this entire meeting, you've seen what we've gone through. I don't

774
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,940
even know where that is on the five-year capital and proven list, but there are so many priorities

775
01:05:33,940 --> 01:05:37,180
more than pools that need to be taken care of.

776
01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:42,620
And when we heard about, you know, a witness of golf course, the reality is when next year

777
01:05:42,620 --> 01:05:47,440
when irrigation's done and maybe even to the second year, depending on timing, you're going

778
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,620
to be down to nine holes.

779
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:55,100
So when parks is already asked to come up with $800,000 in revenue, we're actually on top of

780
01:05:55,100 --> 01:06:02,960
Now I'm going to close a Porsche cars half the golf course and lose a good amount of revenue and that's one of our busiest golf course

781
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:09,520
So, you know, we have to take a look at all those things the golf courses pay for a lot of what goes on

782
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:16,520
The beer gardens of the golf courses those make money pools are million dollar losers when the season starts a million bucks out the door or down the drain

783
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,520
So we when we're literally looking at cutting year after year after year

784
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:28,040
So guys around us talk about the pie keep shrinking because the mandates stay the same and the expenses go up and the dollar amounts are receiving

785
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,660
Doesn't get any bigger

786
01:06:29,660 --> 01:06:37,120
So that means less money for seniors less money for parks less money for roads. That's why we're in this situation. So pools

787
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,420
It's not a list. I'm sure

788
01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:43,120
down the road. We've done a pool study. We've done a plan. And what is that?

789
01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:47,360
demolishing closing, putting up cheaper things like spray pads

790
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:55,960
At some point pools will be no longer funded, period, just like the parks, just like the parks.

791
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,320
But we just put a lot of money into the parks.

792
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,680
So, sure,

793
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,440
you can fill it, you can fill it, you can fill it out after it.

794
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,220
Yeah, you can, yeah, give me two minutes, that's not a problem.

795
01:07:09,380 --> 01:07:10,460
Just fill it a card.

796
01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:11,380
Let's see if it makes sense.

797
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:12,460
Let's see if it makes sense.

798
01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:12,560
Let's see if it makes sense.

799
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:12,800
Let's see if it makes sense.

800
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Let's see if it makes sense.

801
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,240
to

802
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:26,080
do that, I get it.

803
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,400
We all have budgets and all of your budgets and government.

804
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,040
Unfortunately, somethings have to be cut.

805
01:07:31,420 --> 01:07:34,320
Is it necessary to have all of the market parks?

806
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,980
All of the law, of course, is we have a lot.

807
01:07:37,060 --> 01:07:39,140
I'm a golfer, I go foot with them,

808
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,240
and I go up all over the work we're coming.

809
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,720
We have got all these playgrounds,

810
01:07:43,820 --> 01:07:46,860
except that we have at least three playgrounds

811
01:07:46,860 --> 01:07:49,540
in Franklin alone that I can come just like that.

812
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:52,460
It doesn't influence the school playgrounds.

813
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,020
unfortunately, something's have to be cut.

814
01:07:56,140 --> 01:07:58,800
Is it necessary to have all the more people started that?

815
01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:01,340
Can't cities in the county combine resources

816
01:08:01,340 --> 01:08:03,740
to use the tables to use the pools,

817
01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:06,200
to cut the cost of being a dollar deficit?

818
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,300
You are the county's going to be millions

819
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:11,160
and millions of dollars in debt.

820
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,740
We can't keep doing everything everywhere.

821
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,420
We have to start to cut.

822
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:20,600
Franklin doesn't have a pool, but heels for his does.

823
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:21,400
But it's closed.

824
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:29,060
Do we combine cities resources so instead of having 20 pools we have 10?

825
01:08:30,780 --> 01:08:31,980
There are a paper and also called

826
01:08:31,980 --> 01:08:39,600
Has there been a study of what is actually used by combining resources could cut 50 cost by 50 percent and we quite

827
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,620
Like travel a little further

828
01:08:41,620 --> 01:08:44,000
Microphones and non-non by the way, but that's okay

829
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:49,780
But put turn it on now though. We're not starting over. Okay, have you heard me though? I heard it no, okay

830
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,400
In Franklin, we have at least three playgrounds.

831
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,340
There are schools with playgrounds.

832
01:08:54,460 --> 01:08:55,240
Why add more?

833
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:56,180
There's such a deficit.

834
01:08:56,540 --> 01:09:00,160
I understand, I sympathize and empathize with your decisions that you have to make.

835
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,180
However, we all have to be on a budget.

836
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:03,520
My household run a budget.

837
01:09:03,620 --> 01:09:04,840
You guys have to be on a budget.

838
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,620
I don't want to be paying more taxes.

839
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,640
We don't have to have a surplus of playgrounds in a surplus of pools.

840
01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:15,660
Let's consolidate and I mean, I got to drive an extra few miles and I don't have a few

841
01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:16,240
extra miles.

842
01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:17,660
That's my, thank you.

843
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:18,020
Thank you.

844
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:18,580
You guys are Vincent.

845
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:27,720
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I appreciate all this conversation today and listening in.

846
01:09:28,260 --> 01:09:33,160
I wanted to just comment, I do appreciate Supervisor Rollins Amendment.

847
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:44,040
I do think that all of us, all 18, Supervisors have residents that are asking for ways in which their text dollars are being spent.

848
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:51,260
and these parks in particular in local neighborhoods do fit the equity lines in my opinion

849
01:09:51,260 --> 01:09:58,240
because they are right at the heart of where people in our community live. So I just want to support

850
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:59,780
that I'm hoping will

851
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,100
We'll be able to move forward with these suggestions in the amendment. I think that's part of the reason why we

852
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:12,000
are tasked as county supervisors to have input on this budget because it directly impacts the residents

853
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:17,020
right within our district. So I just want to thank you for the robust conversation today. Thanks.

854
01:10:17,020 --> 01:10:17,920
Thank you, Supervisor.

855
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:19,000
All right.

856
01:10:20,020 --> 01:10:21,540
So you know, there are hands raised.

857
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:27,380
And we're questions that's called the role on the bond non-earport.

858
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:28,420
On the amendment.

859
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:28,920
On the amendment.

860
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,000
On the motion.

861
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,060
By the amendment committee member Rowland.

862
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:34,560
To recommend.

863
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:37,720
CIC amendment one.

864
01:10:38,140 --> 01:10:39,640
Bounding non-earport for approval.

865
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,400
Committee members Rowland.

866
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:41,640
Hi.

867
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:42,760
Capriolo.

868
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:43,340
Hi.

869
01:10:43,780 --> 01:10:44,240
Sumner.

870
01:10:45,380 --> 01:10:45,900
No.

871
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:46,840
Thank you.

872
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,040
Sen Ram.

873
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,240
Layers.

874
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:56,100
Buchayowitz.

875
01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,560
Buchayowitz.

876
01:11:05,010 --> 01:11:05,590
Mid-bright.

877
01:11:07,250 --> 01:11:07,470
Aye.

878
01:11:08,650 --> 01:11:09,130
Mr. Chairman.

879
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:12,250
Six eyes.

880
01:11:12,650 --> 01:11:13,310
One, no.

881
01:11:13,710 --> 01:11:14,710
The motion prevails.

882
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:16,490
And now we have a few seconds.

883
01:11:16,930 --> 01:11:18,490
Oh, I know we have a motion.

884
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:21,210
Sure, I'll move to a dappet as amended.

885
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:28,410
On the motion, by committee member Rowland,

886
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:34,050
that bonding non-airport be approved as amended committee members

887
01:11:34,050 --> 01:11:55,900
Rowland Capriolo, Sumner, Sinram, Layers, McBride, Mr. Chairman, six

888
01:11:55,900 --> 01:12:02,000
Okay, seven eyes, one no, the motion prevails.

889
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,800
Okay, thank you.

890
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,160
We will go then to the cash.

891
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:10,000
Not near court.

892
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:10,820
So, rise of capital.

893
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:12,440
All right.

894
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:13,620
Thank you, Mr. Chair.

895
01:12:13,940 --> 01:12:16,880
And as a first year member of this committee,

896
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:20,440
I really appreciate my colleagues for including me in these discussions.

897
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:23,120
And this has been a learning curve for me.

898
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,820
and I hope that I will be able to take this and share it with other supervisors and

899
01:12:28,820 --> 01:12:29,320
any residents.

900
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:34,140
But looking at the cash, the beginning of this meeting we went through how we started,

901
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,280
the CIC, started with 14.6 million cash projects.

902
01:12:38,380 --> 01:12:39,740
That's what we thought we had.

903
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:48,040
Then after our last meeting we were told, no, we need to go to 7.7, which left $6.9 million

904
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:55,560
gap that we had to get rid of in our cache funding. So that's obviously a really tall order

905
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:01,500
and a gut punch to say the least, especially for projects that ended up getting removed.

906
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:11,780
We were able to look at removing a couple of projects with MacDOTs. I believe that the lighting

907
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:16,440
improvements in the MCTS fleet maintenance lighting upgrades. Those were two things that were

908
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:22,020
also that were removed, hopefully to be taken over by the build grant, I believe. Okay.

909
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:28,060
We wanted to add in the following, the Whitnell Club has HVAC replacement and kitchen bathroom

910
01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:35,060
improvements. We realized that Whitnell golf course is one of the gems of our park system and that

911
01:13:35,060 --> 01:13:41,040
making improvements to it is critical to create a wonderful environment for people to choose,

912
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,900
Wittmill to golf at rather than going somewhere else and we know that it's a popular place.

913
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:53,000
Last meeting, and this is considering all that we're talking about today at 480,000 that's

914
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,680
almost nominal, adding that in.

915
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:04,560
Our last CIC meeting, we heard from IMSD that they needed money for technology life cycle replacements.

916
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:12,140
So we wanted to put that in at 1.75 million, and then we heard from our county clerk about election equipment replacements.

917
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,640
And we did not fund the full value.

918
01:14:15,820 --> 01:14:20,620
We were hoping that the department would go out to municipalities and since then they have,

919
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,660
and they've gotten commitments from municipalities to cover 30% of it.

920
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:30,360
We put in a partial approval in the amendment of 1.445 million.

921
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:37,220
That's just shy. I think it's about 260,000,000 shy of what our 70% commitment would be.

922
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,480
But we feel like this is a really good commitment to say, we want this to happen.

923
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,640
And we'll send it to the county executive like this,

924
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,960
and see if you can figure out that extra 260,000 or we,

925
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:53,980
in October when we're talking budgets, we look at it back then again.

926
01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:58,660
Some of the cash that projects that remains that I thought were really important

927
01:14:58,660 --> 01:14:59,780
was replacing B-

928
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:28,860
The cameras in the jail. That is something that they came to us with last year saying that the cameras were in the end of their life cycle. I think they lost five of them last year. So I thought that was really important to continue to have in there. So that fits within our 7.7 million dollar cash allowance. One thing that we do think is very important is the retrofitting of the suicide watchrooms, which was recommended in our October 2024 audit of the jail.

929
01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:37,740
And so we're keeping that in it, it puts us 728,400 dollars over that 7.7 million dollar budgets.

930
01:15:38,420 --> 01:15:45,000
But we want to send a message to the county executives team and to our colleagues that we do think that's an important thing.

931
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,360
We're spending 896 million dollars on a brand new building.

932
01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:52,380
And much of that money does not even touch the jail.

933
01:15:52,380 --> 01:16:00,720
And I've been through the jail many times, and I work with, through my work on jail eggs and just personal interest.

934
01:16:00,940 --> 01:16:13,860
I've been in the jail, and I work with people that run the jail, and I think we need to show that we're equally committed to the people that are in our custody to the people who work for us, that they are getting some imprisonment as well.

935
01:16:14,380 --> 01:16:23,940
So I would make a motion to adopt the amendment and open to questions and if my colleagues would like to add to anything that I missed.

936
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:26,860
I don't need to reach out to summarizing it.

937
01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:28,860
Yes, very well.

938
01:16:29,660 --> 01:16:30,360
Thank you.

939
01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:32,000
I know we talked about the election equipment.

940
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:39,040
I know we got the memo from the clerk's office about their attempt to get matches from the different municipalities.

941
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:47,240
Can you talk a little bit about the match that this amendment would allow for, you know, percentage wise?

942
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:48,780
Or do you know?

943
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,620
I don't know.

944
01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:55,340
I know we were looking at originally doing 70 percent, but I think this gets us closer to 60 percent.

945
01:16:56,260 --> 01:16:59,520
But I don't, maybe, Vince, you would have the numbers in front of you.

946
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,160
I don't have the updated calculation.

947
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:14,500
I believe we're shy of 261.

948
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:27,460
Mr. Chairman, the memo from the clerks shows 30% contribution would bring in 740,000 with a county

949
01:17:27,460 --> 01:17:28,440
contribution needed.

950
01:17:28,620 --> 01:17:35,140
It's 1.7 million, so this comes to the short by about the amount that's so far as a capital

951
01:17:35,140 --> 01:17:35,680
or just mentioned.

952
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,260
I think you're asking the percentage or what's percentage.

953
01:17:41,180 --> 01:17:47,000
I think even what we're even paying here is too much, I mean, you know, we're on the

954
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:51,440
state, and we have to handle these elections, but yet what percentage of them are actually

955
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:56,900
municipal, you know, we do the stuff that's required by state and federal, and then once

956
01:17:56,900 --> 01:18:02,940
well, Clancy got crazy, a referendum or two, but we're not the ones that, you know, why

957
01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:08,280
should we put the whole bill? So, I mean, I had that conversation with Georgia yesterday,

958
01:18:08,780 --> 01:18:14,940
but I appreciate the county clerk, you know, appear in here, and in a few weeks ago, getting

959
01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:18,480
this commitment and at least helping. I mean, I don't think it's enough, but at least you

960
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:23,420
got us the money, but I really do commend his effort and his team's effort to get us something.

961
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,980
I did look at it, it's 281-742 that we would still be shy.

962
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:31,280
Right. Right, wrong?

963
01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:37,820
So I guess just maybe as a follow-up for the clerk, just if we were able to prove this amount,

964
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:42,220
what would be the next step would you go back to the missfalities or,

965
01:18:43,420 --> 01:18:49,220
And then I guess the second question I guess is for the, why don't we go there and then we can come back.

966
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,940
Clerk, yep. Good.

967
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,800
Just wanted to make sure I was able to speak.

968
01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:59,300
Sir Chairman, I remember, thank you.

969
01:18:59,300 --> 01:19:01,020
George Chris is in Milwaukee County Clerk.

970
01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:03,480
Yeah, I had some remarks prepared.

971
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,660
I think supervisor Capriola stole my thunder.

972
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:16,400
But we were able to secure a commitment of 30% from every single municipality, including the city

973
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,320
Milwaukee, so we're very proud of that.

974
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,400
We had been working out for a number of months, and it really came through fruition after the

975
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,120
last CIC meeting.

976
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:31,560
I was able to utilize the chairman's remarks and the committee's, you know, you know, and

977
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,280
you're really sort of a mandate to say, get out there and try to get that.

978
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,820
to really light the fire to some of these municipalities and get more of the just a verbal commitment.

979
01:19:40,420 --> 01:19:43,780
And so I appreciate the committee's efforts in working with me.

980
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:49,180
I also appreciate the committee's commitment to this point.

981
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:56,060
You know, if we're a 281,000 short at this point, I'm not too concerned about that.

982
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,240
We'll figure something out.

983
01:19:57,480 --> 01:19:59,020
And the county here we always do.

984
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,740
And so, I think from there, I'm happy to sort of follow up on Sean, I'm supervisor Ron's question, if you could just repeat it if I haven't answered it.

985
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:15,240
Yeah, I guess just if you're comfortable with, I mean, I'm not going to say you're comfortable, one of my even asking.

986
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:24,640
How much heartburn would it give you if we were funding at this, maybe 50 to 60% amount versus the 70% of amount?

987
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:29,480
I guess the big picture I worry about right we've got twenty twenty eight coming out and

988
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:33,900
You know the eyes are gonna be upon us as they always are and

989
01:20:33,900 --> 01:20:41,360
I just don't want to be the reason that like the nation has to go through some whole horrific thing

990
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:48,440
Because some election equipment didn't work so especially if it's just like a little bit of money that we need to figure out

991
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:49,220
so

992
01:20:49,220 --> 01:20:51,380
As you're thinking about this how

993
01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:59,040
challenging what to be for you to fill that gap or do you feel comfortable with that there's a way and you would figure it out

994
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,420
Well, I think you know chairman members. Thank you. It's a question

995
01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:09,080
My goal is to eventually come up with that to anyone somehow some way and let's let's put it on the administration

996
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,600
Let's let's see what the administration can do

997
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,960
I think the committee here with its recommendations has um I care it a lot of way and

998
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,620
I care a lot of water and I appreciate that

999
01:21:18,620 --> 01:21:20,000
We'll figure it out.

1000
01:21:20,180 --> 01:21:28,220
I am comfortable with what the committee is recommending at this juncture and will continue

1001
01:21:28,220 --> 01:21:30,620
on with this effort and go from there.

1002
01:21:30,740 --> 01:21:33,760
I think anything less would be not possible.

1003
01:21:35,340 --> 01:21:41,320
We had had the municipalities commit 30% back in 2015, 2016 whenever we purchased these.

1004
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:49,600
or original, a round of tabulators, if you will, in voting machines, but I think right now I'm

1005
01:21:49,900 --> 01:21:54,880
very happy with what the committee has done, and I do appreciate it. Thank you.

1006
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,040
Thank you. Any other questions? Thanks.

1007
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:21,480
Thank you. Just to make sure we're covering our bases on the IGCCC project, although we don't have it included in here,

1008
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:23,420
is being funded on the bond and cash side.

1009
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,420
We may want to have someone make a recommendation again,

1010
01:22:28,660 --> 01:22:33,620
just to the fact that it's not included in the CIC funding

1011
01:22:33,620 --> 01:22:39,140
processes here, but the CIC supports the project overall.

1012
01:22:39,540 --> 01:22:47,560
Just to make sure that there's no issues in terms of,

1013
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,400
So was it funded in item four or was it not funded in item four?

1014
01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:52,960
Does that make sense?

1015
01:22:53,420 --> 01:22:58,220
So what we did in two and three that doesn't suffice.

1016
01:22:58,420 --> 01:23:01,880
Remember the amendment that we made basically, or the motion that was made to say we support

1017
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:02,400
the project.

1018
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:10,340
So I just want to make sure that it's covered on both items.

1019
01:23:14,410 --> 01:23:18,730
We have to make a motion that we got a motion on the amendment, let's take care of that.

1020
01:23:20,010 --> 01:23:36,010
On the motion by committee member Capriolo that the cash non-airport CICM and one be approved committee members Rowland Capriolo

1021
01:23:36,010 --> 01:23:36,530
April 0.

1022
01:23:37,530 --> 01:23:38,010
Sumner.

1023
01:23:39,130 --> 01:23:39,590
Sandram.

1024
01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:40,150
Aye.

1025
01:23:40,850 --> 01:23:41,370
Layers.

1026
01:23:41,670 --> 01:23:41,810
Aye.

1027
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:43,310
Okay, let's.

1028
01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:44,890
Aye.

1029
01:23:45,570 --> 01:23:46,290
Make bright.

1030
01:23:47,390 --> 01:23:47,550
Aye.

1031
01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:48,570
Mr. Chair.

1032
01:23:49,310 --> 01:23:49,630
Eight.

1033
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:50,010
Aye.

1034
01:23:50,130 --> 01:23:50,450
Zero.

1035
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:50,810
No.

1036
01:23:51,010 --> 01:23:52,070
The motion prevails.

1037
01:23:52,570 --> 01:23:54,510
Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to adopt as amended.

1038
01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:58,980
It will be a session.

1039
01:23:59,220 --> 01:24:00,820
We'll do an air motion after this.

1040
01:24:01,300 --> 01:24:04,560
Or do you want something language as well?

1041
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:05,800
In this motion.

1042
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:18,920
I would say let's probably roll it in here and then in terms of excluding the IJCC.

1043
01:24:26,770 --> 01:24:27,730
Do you need a amendment on that?

1044
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:28,390
Or is that just-

1045
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:28,530
Excuse me.

1046
01:24:29,330 --> 01:24:29,950
Excuse me.

1047
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:32,130
I can read it into.

1048
01:24:32,690 --> 01:24:33,310
All right.

1049
01:24:34,570 --> 01:24:38,890
Chair, if it's appropriate, I was just going to hopefully address the administration's concern

1050
01:24:38,890 --> 01:24:46,230
and just highlight that or make a motion to amend that while the IJCC project is not funded

1051
01:24:46,230 --> 01:24:53,550
in this item, the CIC committee does recommend the project move forward through the other

1052
01:24:53,550 --> 01:24:54,690
identified processes.

1053
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,920
So we take this amendment, no. Take it, no. Take it, no. Take it, no. Take it, no.

1054
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,000
We'll roll that and then we'll take the amendment for the members.

1055
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:16,760
On the motion by committee member, siram that the Capitol Improvement Committee does recommend

1056
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:27,940
approval of the IGCC, projects, and it is not included in this cash, 9 Airport funding committee members,

1057
01:25:27,940 --> 01:25:28,820
Rowland.

1058
01:25:29,460 --> 01:25:29,540
Hi.

1059
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,520
Capriolo.

1060
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:32,560
Sumner.

1061
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:34,260
Hi.

1062
01:25:34,740 --> 01:25:35,140
Sinram.

1063
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:35,900
Hi.

1064
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,000
Layers.

1065
01:25:37,660 --> 01:25:37,680
Hi.

1066
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:38,920
Bouquet Woods.

1067
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:40,300
Hi.

1068
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:41,540
McBrite.

1069
01:25:42,380 --> 01:25:42,720
Hi.

1070
01:25:43,140 --> 01:25:43,640
Mr. Chair.

1071
01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:45,000
Eight eyes.

1072
01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:45,660
Zero nose.

1073
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,760
The motion prevails.

1074
01:25:47,260 --> 01:25:47,440
Okay.

1075
01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:51,680
So now I would like to make a motion to adopt as amended twice.

1076
01:25:53,420 --> 01:25:53,800
All right.

1077
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:54,780
That sounds good.

1078
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:56,260
All right.

1079
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:57,580
He's called roll.

1080
01:25:57,580 --> 01:26:03,240
On the motion by committee member Capriolo that the CIC cash non airport

1081
01:26:03,820 --> 01:26:17,180
Excluding the IJCC project be approved as amended committee members Rowland. Hi, Capriolo. Hi, Sumner. Hi, Sinram. Hi. Layers. Hi, bouquet with.

1082
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,020
Hi, McBride.

1083
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:24,040
Great. Mr. Chairman. Hi.

1084
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,500
Eight eyes zero nose the motion prevails.

1085
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,820
All right, now you need time to do anything?

1086
01:26:32,180 --> 01:26:32,340
Yeah.

1087
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:38,540
Chairman Supervisors, give us just a few moments to make sure we got everything right?

1088
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,000
No, okay.

1089
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:39,600
Should we cut?

1090
01:26:39,700 --> 01:26:43,320
Could we take a quick to e-commerce in the meantime or should we wait to make sure we're

1091
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:44,120
good to go?

1092
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:51,570
Yeah, let's take out e-commerce as a right now there aren't any if any come in, they'll

1093
01:26:51,570 --> 01:26:52,070
be attached.

1094
01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:53,450
And I'll just read it and sort of read it.

1095
01:26:53,470 --> 01:26:53,590
Yeah, go.

1096
01:26:54,110 --> 01:26:57,810
E-commerce submitted to the Capital Improvements Committee via the County Legislative

1097
01:26:57,810 --> 01:27:00,010
information center click

1098
01:27:04,650 --> 01:27:08,230
I'm a good option we need to do that we don't need

1099
01:27:08,230 --> 01:27:14,580
well okay that's done so we just have to wait a few minutes yeah

1100
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:19,820
press release just hey did well you guys are in it I took you like copy and

1101
01:27:19,820 --> 01:27:24,700
pastures stuff thank you here allowing me to be a part of this process oh yeah yeah

1102
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:27,860
I just want to note that my amendment has dropped in anyway.

1103
01:35:20,620 --> 01:35:21,080
All

1104
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:29,560
right, we don't need it. We didn't take a recess. We just kind of typed out. So, yeah, right.

1105
01:35:30,620 --> 01:35:30,760
Director.

1106
01:35:35,180 --> 01:35:43,260
Committee members, thank you. We're good to go. We tied out with the amendments here.

1107
01:35:47,340 --> 01:35:50,420
We need to read any thing or read a number four.

1108
01:35:53,010 --> 01:36:00,810
Item four, capital improvements, committee review of Department of Request 4, the 2027 through 2031, capital improvements plan,

1109
01:36:00,810 --> 01:36:05,310
the Capital Improvements Committee may take action for someone to chapter 36 of the Milwaukee County

1110
01:36:05,310 --> 01:36:07,230
Code of General Ordnances.

1111
01:36:08,430 --> 01:36:08,930
People tuned in.

1112
01:36:08,930 --> 01:36:10,850
People tuned out and look at me all these changes.

1113
01:36:11,090 --> 01:36:11,950
We cut a bunch of stuff.

1114
01:36:12,210 --> 01:36:13,570
All right.

1115
01:36:14,150 --> 01:36:14,630
You're up.

1116
01:36:17,730 --> 01:36:18,190
All right.

1117
01:36:18,210 --> 01:36:19,150
Chairman, committee members.

1118
01:36:19,650 --> 01:36:22,810
So we are tied out with the bond amendments here.

1119
01:36:22,930 --> 01:36:28,470
You have the $9,000 and $2 just under the bond cap.

1120
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:40,540
And we have all of the added projects here, as we go down the list, this will pop this open

1121
01:36:40,540 --> 01:36:41,820
here real quick,

1122
01:36:45,230 --> 01:36:51,850
so the ones here we're showing the amended items, the line obviously

1123
01:36:51,850 --> 01:36:59,570
goes away here, and then this will be the final report that is sento, as amended, about

1124
01:36:59,570 --> 01:37:09,190
here are the out-your-projects that were added and on the cash side, same setup, we tie

1125
01:37:09,190 --> 01:37:17,550
out to the just over $728,000, a valuable cash amount

1126
01:37:20,210 --> 01:37:26,570
and the report will reflect the

1127
01:37:26,570 --> 01:37:36,950
amended items that you see here, and then you can see the 1.75 for technology, 1.4445 for

1128
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:41,270
the election equipment, and all the other items that were included as well.

1129
01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:48,130
All right, while we're going to wrap up here, I want to thank the mayors for taking time

1130
01:37:48,130 --> 01:37:53,050
these three meetings, out your busy schedules, you know, you're running a municipality,

1131
01:37:58,110 --> 01:37:58,130
and

1132
01:37:58,130 --> 01:38:05,590
I want to thank the committee for, you know, there's an August recess, you know, but yet we're working

1133
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:12,770
and really the efforts that were put in really appreciated. Allison, that's my number one right there.

1134
01:38:13,190 --> 01:38:17,630
She's, she's, she's, she's that wouldn't be on this, finance. I mean, she does this on seeds. So,

1135
01:38:17,730 --> 01:38:24,610
she knows how I operate and in my crazy ways. And if I really want to thank Vince, Pam, Justin,

1136
01:38:24,610 --> 01:38:29,090
for all the work you've done behind the scenes to make this happen. I know it's a lot

1137
01:38:29,090 --> 01:38:34,150
and I know we're throwing a curveball but I think we should all be proud of what we've accomplished,

1138
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:41,430
what we're going to recommend to the county exec and we'll wait and see the results of our labor

1139
01:38:41,430 --> 01:38:45,090
on that October 1st. We are adjourned.