[0:13] I love you.
[0:28] » Good evening. Please stand.
Hand over your heart. I pledge algiance
[0:34] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
[0:39] stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:44] for all. Please remain standing and join
the board in a moment of silence as we
[0:48] honor our veterans, our first
responders, our active military, and of
[0:52] course this week and next week leading
up to the 25th anniversary of the events
[0:56] of September 11, 2001. Please keep all
of those souls that lost their lives on
[1:01] that day and all those that have gone
since then.
[1:10] Thank you.
[1:17] Good evening. I'll entertain a motion
for approval of bills and payroll.
[1:22] » Motion.
>> Motion by trustee Clark. Do I have a
[1:25] second?
>> Second.
[1:26] » Second by trustee Saloski. All in favor?
>> I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Mr.
[1:31] Rivera.
>> Oh, okay. Before we get started with the
[1:36] work session, we are going to be in a
need of an executive session. Can I
[1:40] please get a motion to go into executive
session?
[1:43] » Motion by Trusty Clark, second by Deputy
Mayor Soratori. All in favor?
[1:47] » I oppose. Motion carries. We'll be right
back.
[5:56] It always looks like
[6:10] my apologies. We went into executive
session to discuss a personnel matter
[6:14] and now we'll continue with our work
session which will then be immediately
[6:18] followed by a public meeting. So with
that um Mr. Rivera
[6:27] » good evening.
>> Good evening.
[6:29] » Good evening.
>> Resolve to approve the minutes of the
[6:31] meeting of the board of trustees of
August 5th, 2026.
[6:35] » Motion.
>> Motion by trustee Cassad. Do I have a
[6:38] second?
>> Second. Second by Trusty Clark. All in
[6:40] favor? I oppose. Motion carries.
>> Resolve to approve a request by the
[6:45] Minola School District for the use of
Wilson Park for a 7th grade picnic on
[6:49] Friday, June 11th, 2027 from 8:00 a.m.
to 2 p.m.
[6:53] » So, today was the first day of school
and they're already scheduling for the
[6:56] last day of school. Uh, entertain a
motion to approve.
[6:59] » Motion
>> motion by Trusty Salowski, second by
[7:01] Trusty Cassado. All in favor?
>> I. Any opposed? Motion carries.
[7:05] » And I have one personnel item. Motion to
approve a $2 an hour uh merit increase
[7:11] for Ariana Halpern in the village
justice court retroactive to June 1st.
[7:17] Uh we um inadvertently left Ariana off
of last month's uh list of merit raises.
[7:24] So we would like to um recognize that.
Now I'll entertain a motion.
[7:28] » Motion
>> motion by deputy mayor. Second by trusty
[7:31] Cassado. All in favor? Any opposed?
Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you Mr.
[7:36] Shone.
[7:43] » Good evening, Mayor. John G. How are
you?
[7:46] » Good evening.
>> Uh, I have one item resolved to approve
[7:48] a budget transfer in the Miniola Fire
Department of Fiscal year 2627.
[7:54] » Okay. Entertain a motion.
>> Motion.
[7:56] » Motion by Trusty Clark. Do I have a
second? Second by Trusty Cassado. All in
[8:00] favor? Any oppos? Motion carries.
>> Thank you.
[8:03] » Thank you, Mr. Chicone. Uh, Mr. Columbo.
[8:14] » Uh, good evening.
>> Good evening.
[8:15] » Good evening.
>> Uh, request a resolution authorizing the
[8:19] installation of a handicap reserve
parking space in front of 101 Liberty
[8:24] Avenue.
>> Okay, we have the documentation for it.
[8:26] I'll entertain a motion.
>> Motion.
[8:28] » Motion by Deputy Mayor Story. Do I have
a second?
[8:30] » Second.
>> Second by Trusty Clark. All in favor? I.
[8:33] Any opposed? Motion carries.
>> Uh request a resolution authorizing the
[8:37] installation of a handicap reserve
parking space in front of 220 Lincoln
[8:42] Avenue.
>> Okay, we have that in our backup as
[8:44] well. I'll entertain a motion.
>> Motion.
[8:46] » Motion by Trusty Casado. Do I have a
second?
[8:48] » Second.
>> Second by Trusty Salas. All in favor?
[8:51] » Any opposed? Motion carries.
>> Uh request a resolution authorizing the
[8:55] engineering services for the well number
five electrical and mechanical upgrades.
[8:59] The engineers are DMBB engineers and
architects DPC. The cost of $31,000
[9:06] and the funding will be from a 2627
water fund budget andor the water fund
[9:11] unreserved balance.
>> And this is the well on the northeast
[9:15] corner of the building.
>> Yes. On Rosel.
[9:17] » Yep. And send a motion.
>> Motion.
[9:19] » Motion by Trusty Clark. Do you have a
second?
[9:21] » Second.
>> Second by Deputy Mayor Story. All in
[9:23] favor?
>> Any opposed? Motion carries.
[9:27] uh request a resolution awarding a
public bid and contract for general
[9:31] construction for a POS treatment at well
6. The contract is Philip Ross
[9:36] Industries. the the amount of 3,272,350
[9:42] and the funding will be from the 2026
2027 water fund budget and or the water
[9:48] fund unreserved balance and or the
environmental facilities corporation
[9:52] grant and or the well number six project
bond financing.
[9:57] » Okay, so this is for the well on
Westbury Avenue by the pool. This is
[10:00] something that we approved a couple of
years ago and trying to be proactive and
[10:05] stay ahead of it. Essentially, it's what
we've done at well four, at well seven,
[10:09] at well one, and now it's well six's
turn. So, entertain a motion to approve.
[10:14] » Motion.
>> Motion by Trusty Saloski, second by
[10:17] trustee Casado. All in favor?
>> Any opposed? Motion carries.
[10:21] » Uh request a resolution awarding a
public bid and contract for plumbing for
[10:25] the Pos treatment at Well 6. The
contractor's KG Electric motor and pump.
[10:31] The contract amount is for 2,728,000
and the funding will be the 2026 2027
[10:38] water fund budget and or the water fund
unreserved balance, the environmental
[10:42] facilities corporation grant or the well
six project bond financing.
[10:47] » Okay, so this is for the same well but
the electrical entertain entertain a
[10:51] motion.
>> Motion
[10:52] » motion by trusty Clark, second by
trustee casado. All in favor?
[10:56] » Any opposed? Motion carries. and uh
request a resolution awarding a public
[11:00] bid amount for the contract for
electrical for the POS treatment of well
[11:05] 6. The contractor is Banner Electric
Corp. The contract amount is 932,000
[11:11] and that will also be from the 2026 2027
water fund budget water fund on reserve
[11:17] balance environmental facilities
corporation grant and the well six
[11:21] project bond financing. Okay. So again,
these these three are all general
[11:27] construction, for plumbing, for
electrical, all for well six adds up to
[11:31] about $7 million to come from these
various sources. Something that we had
[11:36] planned for already. This is we're at
the point of actually
[11:42] » entertain a motion.
>> Motion
[11:43] » motion by deputy mayor. Do I have a
second?
[11:46] » Second.
>> Second by trusty Clark. All in favor?
[11:48] » I opposed. Motion car. And I have two
personnel items. Uh reserve to resolve
[11:53] to authorize the hiring of Roger Padina
as a laborer in the highway division of
[11:58] the Department of Public Works. The work
days and hours are Monday through Friday
[12:02] 7:30 to 4 with the starting salary
according to the collective bargaining
[12:06] agreement.
>> A motion.
[12:08] » Motion.
>> Motion by Depatory. Second by Trusty
[12:11] Cassado. In favor,
>> I opposed.
[12:13] » Motion carries. And finally, uh, request
a resolution appointing existing
[12:18] employee Mike Scallero, employee of the
water and sewer division of the
[12:21] Department of Public Works to water
service supervisor. The recommended
[12:25] salary increase is $5 per hour.
>> Okay. We had someone who left and Mike
[12:30] is going to essentially move into that
uh position. We're lucky to have him and
[12:35] uh hopefully he'll be here for a long
time and it'll be part of the of the
[12:39] future um as we
>> kind of prepare number two. So he'd be
[12:44] the supervisor under the water
department. Uh super. It' be the second
[12:48] » second
>> and and command in the water department.
[12:50] » Yeah. Correct.
>> A motion.
[12:52] » Motion.
>> Motion by trustee Salos. Do I have a
[12:54] second?
>> Second.
[12:55] » Second by trustee Clark. All in favor?
>> I post. Motion carries.
[12:59] » That's it. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Bl.
[13:01] » Okay, Mr. O'Keefe.
[13:13] Good evening everyone.
>> Good evening.
[13:15] » Uh so during the month of August, uh the
building department issued 76 permits
[13:19] and conducted 76 inspections.
Um
[13:24] as many residents are aware, several
high-rise construction projects are
[13:27] currently in progress throughout the
village. The building department
[13:30] continues to monitor these projects,
ensure compliance with all codes and
[13:33] approved plans on file. If you have any
questions concerning or concerns
[13:39] regarding these projects, uh please do
not hesitate to contact my department.
[13:44] Um property maintenance inspections were
conducted throughout the village's
[13:48] commercial districts to ensure
compliance with code. As a result of
[13:52] these inspections, summones were issued
for properties with excessive weeds and
[13:55] for violations related to the improper
storage and placement of garbage.
[14:00] Property owners are reminded that they
are responsible for maintaining their
[14:03] properties in accordance with village
code, including keeping weeds and
[14:07] overgrown vegetation under control. In
addition, residents and businesses own
[14:12] business business owners are encouraged
to familiarize themselves with the
[14:15] village's garbage collection schedule
and regulations to ensure refuse is
[14:20] placed out for collection only on the
designated days in a manner prescribed
[14:24] by the village.
Uh we encourage commercial property
[14:28] owners to maintain their properties in
accordance with village ordinance and to
[14:32] take the same pride in their properties
that are v that our residential property
[14:36] owners demonstrate throughout the
village. A clean and well-maintained
[14:39] community is a shared responsibility and
benefits all who live and work and visit
[14:44] the village. Um recently we've also had
a surge of non-compliant signage on
[14:50] commercial properties um throughout the
village. This has been addressed with
[14:55] all the property owners and tenants.
Please contact my department and we will
[14:59] explain the maximum sign dimensions and
locations. That's all I have.
[15:04] » Okay. Um, if you don't mind just staying
there for a second, Mr. O'Keefe, this
[15:08] has been a pet peeve of mine and you've
heard from me just about every day for
[15:11] the last couple of weeks. And I do want
to say this that I I just don't
[15:16] understand uh business owners or
building because sometimes you have a
[15:20] tenant and you have the building owner.
We obviously send the notice of
[15:24] violation in the summons to the building
owner, but it it it boggles my mind how
[15:28] you want to operate a business in this
village and you allow weeds to grow on
[15:33] the sidewalk or um in the joints of your
building with the sidewalk and then
[15:39] we'll have people right next door that
you could practically eat off their
[15:43] sidewalk and and they take pride in what
they do. So sometimes uh people need to
[15:48] be reminded. We had some very upset
business owners and and and property
[15:53] owners who called after they got a
summon. Um, and frankly, I couldn't
[15:59] understand why they were surprised. And
many of them don't live here, so they
[16:03] don't see it. But the property, but the
the business owners do see it and and it
[16:08] is a pet peeve and our expectations
should be high, including the county.
[16:13] So, we have county roads. We have a
bridge that goes over the railroad that
[16:17] is owned by the county. Miller Boulevard
and I had to we we tried the protocol.
[16:22] We went to the DPW. We went to the
legislature and eventually I had to call
[16:25] the deputy uh county executive to get
the weeds uh cut on the side of um
[16:31] Manila Boulevard over the Manila
Boulevard bridge, which if you've driven
[16:35] over there um prior to last week, you
had weeds that were definitely above 12
[16:41] in like 18 in high on either side. And
and that's not acceptable. It's not
[16:46] acceptable for us as a municipality.
It's not acceptable for the county and
[16:51] it's certainly not acceptable for uh
business owners or building owners. Um
[16:56] just today I sent uh Mr. O'Keefe two
more pictures as I was driving around.
[17:00] So when you do see something, don't
assume that we're ignoring it. Uh we do
[17:05] um there is due process. However, you
know, we give them a summon. They have a
[17:09] right to go to court and either pay it
or fight it or go to trial. Uh what we
[17:13] want is compliance. I don't want the,
you know, $100, $200 fine. What I'd like
[17:18] for them to do is to do what so many
businesses along Jericho Turnpike and
[17:23] along Manila Boulevard do on their own,
which is keep the front of their
[17:26] businesses clean, as they should. Um,
but sometimes the message only gets
[17:32] through when you um issue something. So,
how many how many how many 70
[17:37] » 87
>> 87 uh summones that we issued um just in
[17:42] the last two weeks. And again, it's not
because we want I'd want to issue none.
[17:46] I don't want to issue any summones for
things like that. We shouldn't have to
[17:49] because we're not talking about picking
on them for having, you know, a 2-in
[17:53] weed on their We're talking about the
things that we all see.
[17:57] » Yeah. Neglect.
>> Neglect.
[17:59] » And I mean, unfortunately, the common
issue is we hear from the property
[18:03] owners that, well, it's built into their
lease that they're responsible for
[18:06] taking care of whatever tenants, but
that's we don't enforce leases, right?
[18:09] We it falls on the property owner. So,
>> right. or or I'll hear, "Well, you know,
[18:14] the these cups and stuff that are in
front of my store, they're not from
[18:17] here. They blew down from down the
block, but now they're in front of your
[18:20] property. Pick it up. Clean up. We we do
our part. So, we expect that everyone
[18:26] does their part. And hopefully this will
get better as the year goes on. Same
[18:31] thing with the signs. I get it that it's
a tough economy for uh businesses to to
[18:36] compete in. Uh but that doesn't mean
that this is going to turn into the
[18:40] Vegas strip and you know, and it's just
a free-for-all with waving flags and
[18:45] signs hung up all over the place. It's a
safety issue for first responders, for
[18:50] police officers, for firefighters to not
to be able to see into businesses
[18:54] because the windows are covered. Uh so
again, we have a building department, we
[19:00] have a code. Um what businesses should
do is ask first before you go ahead and
[19:08] do something and then we have to be the
the bad guy. And as residents again if
[19:13] you see something don't assume that we
are not doing anything about it. Again
[19:18] call the building department call the
village and we'll tell you yes a notice
[19:21] of violation has been issued. then they
have a certain number of days to cure
[19:25] the issue and if they don't cure the
issue then we give them a summon and
[19:29] they have a court date and then they can
either pay the summons or they could
[19:32] come to court and fight it or they can
go to trial and unfortunately that takes
[19:38] time. Um but hopefully we know that
we're we're right and one way or another
[19:43] they're going to do it eventually.
Sooner rather than later would be
[19:47] better. Um, but and and we're talking
about big companies like CVS to mom and
[19:55] pop places. So, it's it runs the gamut
of people who for whatever reason, maybe
[20:00] they don't see what I see. They don't
see what you see when they walk in to
[20:05] their front door and you expect me to go
into your business. I mean, what does
[20:10] that say about you if you don't have the
pride to take care of of your property?
[20:16] So, um, been something that we've been
trying to hammer home. Yeah.
[20:20] » This these last couple
>> different tactics.
[20:21] » Yes. And we'll continue to do so.
Anything else, Mr.
[20:24] » That's it.
>> That's it. Thank you.
[20:26] » Um
>> Mr. Gibbons,
[20:28] » no report.
>> No report. Okay.
[20:30] » Thank you. We'll go right into our
public meeting and I do want to
[20:33] apologize for the delay. We're 20
minutes behind uh schedule, but I will
[20:38] call you up. Um Oh, actually, we'll do a
a report first or you know, we'll let
[20:43] them we'll let them speak and then we'll
we'll do a report. There's a lot going
[20:47] on in the village. Um, let's do that
first while we still have an audience
[20:52] because we may have an audience later.
I'll try to make it very quick. Um, so
[20:56] this Friday, uh, September 4th, we have
our, uh, last Sounds on Second, which,
[21:02] uh, is VHS, which is like an 80s9s cover
band on Second Street right in front of
[21:08] the St. James. At 6:30, we're going to
have a little uh celebration, if you
[21:14] will, uh that is being organized by the
chamber and by the historical society
[21:19] for the villages 120th birthday. Our
birthday is on September 20th, 1906 was
[21:26] when we were incorporated. So this year,
not only did we celebrate 250 years of
[21:31] the United States, we get to celebrate
120 years of the village. So we'll have
[21:36] a little ceremony. I think there'll be
some giveaways or some surprises. They
[21:40] told me they wouldn't tell me exactly
what. And then followed by uh Alfresco
[21:45] dining and music. I think the weather is
going to be great. So that is this
[21:48] Friday. Next Friday, which is of course
September 11th, we are going to have our
[21:55] annual remembrance ceremony at Memorial
Park. We hope that you can make it um
[22:00] new time uh because it is the first
night of Russashana. rather than 7 p.m.,
[22:05] we're going to start at 6 pm. Uh keynote
speaker is former New York State Senator
[22:10] and current president of Adelfi
University, Michael Baloni, who was our
[22:14] state senator um back in uh 2001. So,
he'll be our keynote speaker. If you've
[22:20] gone to our member ceremony in the past,
it is uh a quick ceremony, but it is an
[22:27] important ceremony. It is poignant. our
first responders are there, our scouts
[22:31] are there, our elected officials and our
community is there, our veterans, etc.
[22:35] So, it's important that um we continue
to uh remember because we did promise to
[22:41] not forget. So, that is on uh September
11th and I'll pass it over to Deputy
[22:45] Mayor.
>> No report, Mayor. Um I hopely see
[22:49] everybody at the birthday celebration
and at the um at the concert and we'll
[22:53] celebrate the end of summer, beginning
of a new season. We have some fun stuff
[22:56] lined up for fall as well. Thank you.
>> Trusty Cassada,
[23:00] » just hope to see you on September the
11th. You have to be there.
[23:05] » Okay. Trusty Clark,
>> no report.
[23:07] » No report. Trusty Salowski,
>> uh, just that tomorrow there'll be a
[23:10] tree lighting in front of the fire
department headquarters for pediatric
[23:14] cancer at 6:30. I hope to see you there
and I hope to see everyone at the 911
[23:20] memorial.
>> Yes. And we've been doing that. So,
[23:23] you'll notice that the tree that usually
we light up for Christmas throughout the
[23:28] month of September, it will be lit in
gold, gold lighting. Um, and we've done
[23:33] this for probably five, six years at
least. Um, um, so tomorrow we'll have a
[23:38] brief ceremony. The 12th, since nobody
brought it up, the 12th of September,
[23:43] which is a Saturday, will be our last
concert in the park. It is Decadia. uh
[23:48] 7:30 and it is the concert. Since we
don't do fireworks at Memorial Park
[23:53] anymore because of the turf field that
was installed at the middle school, uh
[23:57] we'll have a laser light show instead.
So, we've had an amazing um concert
[24:03] series in the park this year and um on
the 12th, a great way to finish off.
[24:09] » I have one more thing, too. Um there's
garbage collection will change this week
[24:14] because it is a holiday. So, please
check your schedules. If you're confused
[24:18] about it, please ask uh call Village
Hall for details. The days are going to
[24:22] change because of the holiday.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Stelato.
[24:37] » I feel like I'm a honorary board member.
I've been here so much.
[24:41] » Always welcome.
Um, I got your letter dated the 28th of
[24:48] September
>> and no, August.
[24:51] » I'm sorry, August. I'm getting ahead.
Um, and I think it crossed in the mail
[24:57] with a letter I got
>> I sent out. U So, I just want to do two
[25:02] things. I I wrote another letter in
response. I'm going to hand it out.
[25:06] But um
>> sure.
[25:10] Um
and then I wanted to ask for uh and when
[25:14] I'm done I'll ask what the construction
schedule is going to be for Wellington.
[25:18] But oh, you know what? I got to take one
of those back.
[25:21] » Here you go.
[25:27] So,
[25:31] so your letter described how engineers
from the design firm evaluated the tree
[25:36] in front of our house and concluded that
the tree must be removed as it's
[25:40] impacted the curb and gutter. By the
way, this isn't the only this isn't only
[25:45] about this one tree, but all the trees
will be impacted on Wellington. I have
[25:50] not seen the drawings, but I assume that
DMB designed a standard roadway
[25:55] crosssection that could be used
generically on any of our village
[25:59] streets. Applying this standard
crosssection to our block without regard
[26:04] to our old grow trees would certainly
result in their damage necessitating
[26:10] removal.
In the letter in in our letter of August
[26:17] 24th, we questioned whether the MB scope
of work had provisions to give priority
[26:24] to preserving these older trees and for
them to design around them and their
[26:30] impacts to existing curbs and gutters.
Also, whether such provisions were
[26:34] carried forward into the construction
contract. This approach requires that
[26:39] the construction contractor exercises
extra care and should not hinder full
[26:44] depth roadway replacement.
It is up to the owner, the village, to
[26:49] write this guidance into both the design
and construction contracts. I also
[26:53] offered to review the design with the
village and DMB to see if there's
[26:57] anything in our experience that we could
offer.
[27:04] So we ask that the village consider the
above in lie of the standard cookie
[27:10] cutter one-sizefits-all approach.
If there's no change in the design, then
[27:16] the trees on our block are doomed.
So
[27:21] um so to answer your your first
question, well, let me back up. I we've
[27:28] talked about 357 Wellington and I had a
meeting with um another set of residents
[27:35] who live on a different street and when
I visited 357 Wellington I wish that I
[27:41] was what I saw were different and when I
visited the other street with the other
[27:47] um family that had made similar uh
requests I had also wished that the
[27:54] situation were different and their
situation is even worse than yours. But
[28:00] I think and I understand that
everybody's watching and it's easy to
[28:04] say cut the trees, don't cut the trees.
You know, why are we cutting down trees
[28:08] and cookie cutter and the cheapest way?
I can assure you of one thing. This is
[28:13] by far not the cheapest way. The
cheapest way is mill and pave and you'd
[28:18] get a pretty street for a year or two
and then we'd be back to square one. um
[28:25] in two or three years. So the beauty of
um Google Maps or Google Earth is you
[28:32] can look at a property, you can look at
a tree in some cases going back 20
[28:36] years. So you can look at the same place
what it looked like in 2007, 2013, 2019,
[28:42] 2025, whatever the latest one is. And
I've done that with yours. I've visited
[28:48] right you see that the sidewalk is
lifted right significantly. And that's
[28:53] not going to stop. um that we we see
that we can't unsee it. That is a
[28:59] liability for us. That is a liability
for you because just as you're here
[29:04] fighting for your tree, which I have no
pro I wish I could save your tree. Do
[29:09] you think that I want or do you think
that we want or need? The easy thing
[29:15] would be to say yes, absolutely we'll
we'll save your trees. We also have a,
[29:19] as I explained to the to the other
family, we have a fiscal responsibility
[29:23] to use your tax dollars in the most
prudent way possible that will last the
[29:29] longest possible. The last time your
road was paved was 1982 or something
[29:34] like that. I I in the back, but it was a
long time ago. And we hope that it will
[29:38] be that long the next time that it has
to be paved. And if we start taking
[29:43] shortcuts, and that's where the cheap
part comes in. If we just do a mill and
[29:47] pave, if we don't, if we skip houses, if
we skip certain sections of gutter,
[29:51] certain sections of curb, if we bump out
here, bump out there, raise it up here,
[29:56] widen the road here, shorten the road
there, that is going to be a recipe for
[30:01] for disaster. So your tree based on
pictures that I saw on on uh Google
[30:08] Earth over the course of the last decade
or so clearly is continuing to take over
[30:15] the curve and it's continuing to do that
and there's nothing to believe that that
[30:19] wouldn't continue to happen. Right? So
we're going to invest millions of
[30:24] dollars to build a new road to now in a
year or two. And by the way, the the the
[30:30] changes are that quick because I've seen
pictures of sidewalks, the other person
[30:35] that I'm talking about, where the
sidewalk was raised and then you look at
[30:40] a picture three years later, clearly the
homeowner redid their sidewalk, cut the
[30:43] roots on their side, and the sidewalk is
lower and then fast forward to 2023, the
[30:48] the the sidewalk is back up again.
Right? So, it's a continuing cycle. Um,
[30:54] as far as the timeline, your part of the
job is the second phase. So, it wouldn't
[31:00] be uh cut this year. It would be
sometime next year. We're doing the
[31:06] western portion. So, that would be like
u up to Marcellis. So, from Buchanan,
[31:11] Seville, Harding, Bower to Marcelis.
That's that would be this year. Next
[31:17] year would be Marcelus and Wellington.
Um, that's not to say that we're and and
[31:23] we were
supposed to have started already, right?
[31:27] We're supposed to have been underway.
And the only reason why we haven't
[31:30] started is because I've asked um DMB and
our uh DPW superintendent to hold off
[31:37] until we exhaust all possible um you
know alternatives that are feasible,
[31:44] that are responsible, that are
practical,
[31:47] and
that's All all I can say I I mean short
[31:51] of you know and I think in your last
letter you said 17 residents you and 17
[31:56] residents
>> 17 households
[31:59] » 17 households so we're doing
hundreds of households in this section
[32:07] unless I had a hundred people here who
said hey I'd rather keep my tree than
[32:13] you pave my road we would pick up and go
to another part of the village because
[32:18] trust
There are a ton of people that would
[32:20] love to be in your situation and we
would love to do everybody's road. You
[32:25] and your neighbors um were fortunate
enough that this is your time to get a
[32:31] new road and you will get a tree. The
other idea of we just cut down trees.
[32:35] We're not tree friendly. So this year
alone, we'll plant close to 200 trees.
[32:41] Last year we planted over 100. Since
2021, we've planted well over 500 trees.
[32:46] That's over a 100 trees a year. More
trees than we've cut down. So every tree
[32:51] that is going to come down as part of
this job, it will re be replaced. Yes,
[32:55] it will not be replaced with a
60-year-old London plane aka Sycamore
[33:00] that probably shouldn't have been
planted on a three foot wide utility
[33:05] strip to begin with. So I I wish I trust
me I don't need the headache. We don't
[33:13] need the headache and we would love to
say yes, but it comes a time where we
[33:19] need to make difficult decisions and the
decision is safety and fiscal
[33:24] responsibility and knowing that these
trees are creating an unsafe situation
[33:31] on the sidewalks, on the curbs, on the
gutters. We can't in good conscience
[33:37] ignore that for aesthetics or for shade.
And
[33:44] You know that that is where we are at.
>> With all due respect,
[33:50] I've lived in that house for 40 years.
That sidewalk was lifted when I moved
[33:54] in. Hasn't moved much. As for the curb,
it has grown over the curb a bit,
[34:01] but it hasn't pushed the curb out much
more than when I moved in 40 years ago.
[34:06] » And what I'm Please let me finish. What
I've shown you and what I've proposed is
[34:13] that I do agree you can't push the curb
out into the street. You just can't do
[34:18] that. However, you can cut the sidewalk
around the roots of the tree that are
[34:23] there
as they do. And I've shown you in Forest
[34:28] Hills, Queens, even on First Street,
there's a tree where and even on
[34:32] Marcelus Road, there are several trees
where the sidewalk is cut around the
[34:36] tree. So that's And I'm not proposing
that we do a mill and pave that won't
[34:42] last for 30 years. What I'm saying is
there's got to be a design where you
[34:46] could re you could replace the full
depth of that roadway and work around
[34:51] the curbs that are pushed out and repair
the sidewalks that are lifted. That's
[34:56] what I'm saying.
So,
[34:59] » well, you know, and and I believe you
you you state that you're an engineer.
[35:03] I'm not an engineer, but our engineers
their professional advice to us taking
[35:10] into consideration what I just mentioned
about safety and and and liability and
[35:14] cost etc. is that the trees in order for
this to be safe to be prudent in terms
[35:22] of good use of our funds because this is
not cheap. This is we're not going to
[35:27] come back next year or two years or five
years from now uh to to fix it again. to
[35:32] do it once and to do it right. In their
professional opinion, they are saying,
[35:37] and by the way, the two trees in front
of you, well, in front of you and just
[35:41] north, they are not being removed,
right? Because they are not pushing out
[35:46] the sidewall. They're not pushing out
the curb. They're not pushing out the
[35:50] side pushing up the sidewalk. So,
they're staying. So, it's not like we're
[35:53] just going to raise every tree on every
block. Only the trees that have to come
[35:58] down. Um, now you said about your your
um your curb and gutter not being pushed
[36:04] out. I noticed when I visited there that
it looks like it was patched at some
[36:09] point. It was because it's different
from the the remaining curb. It clearly
[36:14] I don't know if we did that or if you
did that, but some somebody did that.
[36:18] » I think it was there when I moved in.
>> Okay. So clearly there was at some point
[36:22] that did come out and then it was it was
patched because clearly it's a different
[36:28] shade of cement. Um but this this is
where we are. The the alternative is we
[36:35] don't do the road.
So I'm I'm saying that there's a third
[36:41] alternative. You can do the road and you
can replace the full depth road with
[36:45] extra care. And what I'm saying in this
letter is has D&B been in their trust me
[36:52] I've written dozens of consulting
engineers scopes of work for engineering
[36:57] agreements did they have conditions and
precautions in their design to give some
[37:03] priority to the trees so that they could
do their design around them
[37:08] » okay and and let's say that I go back
and and they do that and they say okay
[37:12] taking that into consideration two
things happen 30 of the 60 trees that we
[37:19] identified will be spared if we do this,
but it won't be Mrs. Stellato. Mr.
[37:25] Stelato still doesn't meet the criteria.
Would you be okay with it then? Or does
[37:29] your or does your tree have to survive
at all costs? In other words, so let's
[37:34] say that they come back, they say, "Hey,
after further review and if we do X, Y,
[37:37] and Z, as Mr. Stelato has indicated, you
know, we could save this tree, this
[37:41] tree, and this tree, but we can't save
357.
[37:45] This is just about 357.
>> As I've said, it's not just about the
[37:49] tree in front of my house. It's about
all of the trees on our block. I'm not
[37:53] just
I'm not just advocating for my
[37:57] particular tree. Although it would be
nice to keep it
[38:00] » and I it would be nice for me to keep
it. We we we wouldn't be talking if if I
[38:04] could just have come back and said, "Mr.
Salado, good news. We're going to keep
[38:07] your tree and everybody's tree." That
that was that's the easiest thing for me
[38:12] to say. Now, here's the second part of
that. DB comes back to us and says,
[38:16] "Okay, after f further consideration,
there is a way that we can do this,
[38:20] this, this, and that, but instead of $2
million, it's going to be $4 million."
[38:25] See, you know, we don't have $4 million
budgeted for it. We have $2 million.
[38:30] Then I have to turn around and go to the
people on Bower and say, "Hey, can't do
[38:33] Bower. We can only do Wellington and
Marcelus because we ran out of money um
[38:39] to save X number of trees."
>> Let me just let me just say something.
[38:43] here. I have never seen the mayor work
so hard on such a project. He has given
[38:50] this particular tree so much attention
and trying to accommodate you and the
[38:55] neighbors. And I think he's done an
outstanding job to try and get there.
[38:58] And it's it's at the point now where we
we have to pull the trigger one way or
[39:02] the other. But rest assured, he has
worked extremely hard to meet all of
[39:07] your requests and to, you know,
accommodate you so that you'd be happy.
[39:10] And sometimes it just doesn't break that
way. I appreciate that. I do.
[39:15] » I do. I just
>> And I hope you understand that it's it's
[39:18] not personal. I I went down last week
again to the So I've had two um sets of
[39:28] people, residents, yourselves, and
another that met with me privately. I
[39:33] met with them for an hour and a half.
And the same thing I told him, I said,
[39:37] "If I can save it, we'll save it." And
then I went to visit the location the
[39:41] next day with our DPW superintendent,
with our deputy superintendent, with our
[39:45] clerk. And we walked it and I was there
for half an hour, actually lightning and
[39:49] thundering. And I looked at it and I
said, I mean, I'm no engineer, but
[39:53] there's no way that this can be saved.
This is this is and I think most lay
[39:57] people, if you took what is it, the um
family feud, you know, they they they
[40:03] interview 100 people and what do they
say? I think most of them would say, "Oh
[40:06] yeah, this does not look safe." And just
because a homeowner says, "Well, I like
[40:11] it. It's fine. It hasn't fallen ever,
right? Still standing." Um, that's, you
[40:18] know, we don't cross our fingers and
hope. And about bumping out, because in
[40:21] this case, they did bump out on their
own. They cut like a circular thing.
[40:26] Then it becomes uh non-compliant to ADA.
Like in other words, the sidewalk went
[40:31] from being 36 inches wide to being 18
inches wide where a wheelchair can't get
[40:36] down. So we we we also have to keep that
in mind. And believe it or not, as
[40:42] passionate as you are about trees, we
have people in this village who are also
[40:46] very passionate and and rightfully so,
just as you're rightfully so. And I'm
[40:50] not taking any way. I'm pretty
passionate about, you know, the
[40:53] environment as well. Passionate about
raised sidewalks. I had residents who
[40:59] have walked every mile of this village,
who have documented every place where
[41:03] there's a race sidewalk, and then
they've sent me a letter like you did
[41:07] with all the addresses, including yours.
Right now, we're on notice. Right? So,
[41:12] they're And so, how do I please that
person? And how do I please you? How do
[41:18] I please the person who says that they
have to walk in the street because they
[41:22] can't walk in the sidewalk because the
sidewalks are raised? When the grandma
[41:25] takes my son out for a stroll on the
stroller, they can't walk in the
[41:30] sidewalk because the sidewalks are are
so lifted because of the trees. When are
[41:34] you going to fix this? When are you
going to take care of this? And then we
[41:38] have people such as yourself who says,
"Well, you know, it's not a big deal.
[41:42] I'm willing to live with a with an
uprooted sidewalk to maintain the tree."
[41:47] And I get that argument. You live there,
right? You enjoy the benefits of it. But
[41:51] we live in a community, in a society
where people that there has to be
[41:55] compromise. There has to be give and
take. We can't all get what we want all
[42:01] the time.
That's and and I wish and and I wish
[42:06] that I had a better answer. And it
doesn't end tonight. I'll go back to
[42:10] DMB. I'll ask them again. And and I want
to hear it from them. I'll have them in
[42:16] for a meeting and explain to me exactly
the process of how much do you cut the
[42:20] roots? What happens if we don't cut the
roots? What happens if we cut the roots
[42:24] on one side and not the other side? What
happens if this tree falls in a year?
[42:28] Are you liable because you made us keep
it or are we liable because we knew that
[42:34] it had to come down and we didn't take
it down?
[42:38] » You'd have to come up here.
>> Yeah. Well, this is on Oh, then Mrs.
[42:43] Salado can say
>> I just I don't think you understand.
[42:57] » Okay. So, I'm just going to repeat uh
Mrs. Odon said that I don't understand
[43:01] the value of tree. I'm just repeating
because people can't hear you. So, Mrs.
[43:05] Odin is saying that I don't understand
the value of trees.
[43:13] » If we didn't understand and the value of
trees.
[43:18] » If we didn't understand,
[43:26] » I'm sorry. You need to cut. This is the
problem. This is a board meeting.
[43:31] » That's why I'm repeating what she's
saying. That's that's I'm trying Miss
[43:35] Odin. I'm not I'm gonna have a
conversation with you. I'm repeating so
[43:38] that the people at home can hear the
question that you asked. So what Miss
[43:43] Odin said was that I don't understand
the value of trees, that trees are good
[43:48] for the environment, that global warming
is real. Um, that's basically the gist
[43:53] of your comments. So
>> more important
[43:56] » and trees are more important than
concrete. do not want to live anymore
[44:00] because
people don't come here and speak up
[44:07] online.
[44:18] » Okay. So, Miss
[44:24] » Okay.
[44:29] Okay. Miss Odin stated,
[44:35] » "Okay." All right. Um,
[44:46] they create
[44:53] » I there is nothing that you said that I
disagree with. There is nothing that you
[44:58] said that I disagree with. Tree. The
only thing I disagree with is the first
[45:03] comment that you that you made which is
that I don't understand the importance
[45:07] of trees. So I do understand the
importance of trees. I do understand the
[45:11] importance of trees. I do believe that
climate change is real. I do believe
[45:18] that we should have trees in our
community. I do not want to turn the
[45:23] village of Minnola into a concrete
jungle. I live here too. I've been here
[45:28] for 49 years and the insinuation that we
don't believe in trees, we don't u like
[45:36] trees, I just said we are planting 200
trees this year.
[45:44] » Well, you know, the tree in front of
your house at one point was not 35 ft
[45:49] tall. At one point it was a sapling. and
and there's whe whether we cut it down
[45:55] or not, the tree is not going to last
forever. At some point there will be a
[45:59] new tree there.
So
[46:04] » or or I just and you said to the So
first of all, and I've said this a bunch
[46:08] of times, if you want anything done,
come here, call me. I meet with people
[46:14] all the time. As I did the other day,
from 4 o'clock to 5:44 p.m. I sat here
[46:21] with a couple discussing exactly your
issue. Where things don't get resolved
[46:28] is on on social media because that I
don't look at it. I don't read it. I
[46:34] don't entertain it. People that come
down here like you, I will listen to
[46:38] you. I will hear you out. I will try to
help you and we'll work together. I
[46:43] don't know how many of those people even
know where 357 Wellington is. How many
[46:47] of them have actually seen your tree?
How many have actually been down there?
[46:51] How many of them understand the
engineering as Mr. Stallato does? Maybe
[46:54] they do, maybe they don't. I don't know.
But until they come here and they speak
[46:58] to us, it doesn't matter. Anybody can
say anything at any time anywhere.
[47:06] But and and this is my point. 17. You
said 17 homes on Wellington have signed
[47:13] a petition
>> on our block
[47:15] » on on your block. Right.
[47:21] So where
[47:33] » I I'm going to tell you that complaining
online is, you know, that's not that's
[47:38] not going to get my attention. people's
[47:44] matter.
>> It does matter because I'll tell you
[47:46] that about two people.
>> So So when we have hearings, come to the
[47:54] hearing. Come to the hearing.
>> Right.
[47:59] » That's that's a good question. That's a
good question. That's that's a question
[48:02] that I that I don't have an answer to.
But you certainly you can't argue that
[48:08] we're not a welcoming board and we
publicize our meetings. We meet three
[48:12] times uh uh a month. Our meetings are
online. They're on YouTube. You know,
[48:18] there's not much more we can do other
than go and grabbing people out of their
[48:22] house and and making them come down
here. But just two years ago, this room
[48:26] was full of people from Wellington Road,
south of Jericho. And you know what?
[48:31] They were here to get for us to pave
their road. And guess what? Those 50
[48:36] people got their way because they didn't
waste their time online. They came here.
[48:41] So your voice does matter. Not online,
here. So if you had 50 people from
[48:47] Wellington here today and said, you know
what, we don't want our road paved. We'd
[48:51] rather keep our trees. We would say
absolutely.
[48:59] » They were notified of that. Yes.
Everybody got a a letter that the trees
[49:03] are coming down
>> and and I and I hate I I I don't want to
[49:08] speculate,
but there may be people on your block in
[49:14] that part of the village that don't feel
the same way as you do about or don't
[49:20] feel as strongly as you do about trees.
That that's a possibility.
[49:25] » That's true.
[49:39] Well, we usually don't cut them for that
reason, but okay.
[49:50] » No, they're eating my tomatoes instead.
[49:56] » Okay.
[50:11] I won't repeat that.
[50:15] » But but that's but that's the point.
>> But Miss Holden, that's that's the point
[50:20] you're making. You're making my point
for me that one size doesn't fit all and
[50:24] I can't please everybody, you know. So
you have on the one hand we have people
[50:28] calling here
[50:33] » well like like I said I think we agree
we agree more than we disagree. I can
[50:38] tell you that honestly I can tell you
[50:45] » you know I'm so sorry. I'm sorry when
you I agree with so much of what you're
[50:50] saying. I really, really do. And I
really wish that we were going to be
[50:52] able to say we could keep your tree, but
when you say nothing's being done about
[50:57] it, the amount of energy and time that
our mayor has put into your tree and all
[51:04] the trees, but your tree specifically,
he has had hours of phone calls with our
[51:08] engineers. He has come to the site in
the rain looking at your tree. All we
[51:13] wanted to do was save your tree as well
as other trees. But there comes a time
[51:18] when we're unnoticed now. We now are
aware of all the possible safety issues
[51:24] that could happen if we start leaving
these trees. Trees falling down, curbs
[51:29] rising, people tripping, people who are
ADA need ADA compliant sidewalks not
[51:34] having that. We are now on notice and we
have to be responsible with our
[51:38] taxpayers money to do the right thing.
and I am so sorry that your tree is
[51:43] getting affected by this, but
unfortunately this is the situation
[51:46] we're at. So, it's either we do nothing
and now we're all unnoticed and
[51:51] something bad happens or we do something
that's going to benefit our village in
[51:56] the long run.
[52:00] storm
[52:04] soarely.
>> It's besides that. If some, you know,
[52:06] the the sidewalks are lifting and
there's a wheelchair or a person trips
[52:11] and falls, you're going to be sued as
well as us.
[52:16] » I respect your opinion. I respect your
opinion, but until we sit up here and
[52:20] say your tree is saved, you're not going
to be happy. And I'm sorry for that.
[52:24] We're trying as much as we can.
So, so listen,
[52:28] » look, I'm I'm going to call DMB again
and we're going to see if there's yet
[52:34] anything else that we can do.
>> Well, I'm not saying that we do
[52:38] something that's against ADA. What I am
saying is that you could
[52:44] cut a swath around the tree and if
there's not enough sidewalk left, you
[52:50] could cut into a lawn a little bit
>> to give you the proper width.
[52:54] » Yeah. I don't I don't think we're
allowed to do that because that mixes,
[52:58] you know, private property,
>> but my property line is
[53:02] » up in the lawn. It's not even
>> Yeah. Um so
[53:05] » so the village the village property
extends into my lawn lawn,
[53:08] » right? This is where we're at right now.
Um as I said, your tree is not coming
[53:14] down this month, not next month, not
this year. Um at the very earliest it
[53:21] would be March or April of next year.
Um, in the meantime,
[53:26] good news is you're phase two, so that
does give us some time to see if there
[53:32] are other um alternatives or for you to
rally your troops and say skip
[53:38] Wellington.
>> Yeah, I appreciate your effort and the
[53:42] time you put in. I do.
>> It's an important issue to us and I'm
[53:47] glad that you're addressing us too. And
then just a totally different subject.
[53:54] You mentioned the 911 ceremony. I want
to thank you for doing that. I worked in
[53:58] Tower One for most of my career. I
wasn't there that day, but
[54:02] » And I and I read your your um your
letter mentioned that you were
[54:07] responsible for planting trees, not in
the plaza, but
[54:11] » on the street
>> on the street. And
[54:14] » so I I read the letters. I get lots of
communication. And this is to my point.
[54:18] You know what I don't read? Comments on
Facebook. You know what I do read?
[54:22] People who take the time to do this
because these people deserve my time,
[54:25] deserve our time, and deserve our um
interest. And and and and certainly um
[54:33] so I I I do want to commend you for
coming here repeatedly and for doing
[54:38] what others didn't do, won't do, don't
want to do, don't care to do. Uh and I
[54:43] respect that. I respect that. Um and and
again, if I can find a solution, if I
[54:49] could have found a solution already, we
wouldn't be here. We'd be at your house,
[54:53] you know, drinking champagne. Um and and
maybe that that will still happen.
[54:57] » I mean, I still offer if as if the
village desires, I could meet with DNB.
[55:02] I mean, it's up to you guys.
>> Well, I I think we I do appreciate that,
[55:06] but um I I will say this and not to to
question your your credentials.
[55:12] oftentimes I when I meet with people,
well, you know, I work in construction
[55:17] or I or I my cousin owns a tree company
or you know, like everybody everyone's
[55:22] an expert. I'm not an expert. Um, you
know, I'm not an engineer as I've said
[55:27] multiple times. So, I do appreciate
that. I'll mention that to them, but
[55:32] understand that that opens up a a whole
>> I understand
[55:35] » can of of worms.
>> I understand. But I I do appreciate and
[55:40] I want to say that I I do appreciate the
way that you have uh presented yourself,
[55:47] your decorum, your I think we've had a a
respectful dialogue and that's the way
[55:53] it should be. I want to thank you for
that. I appreciate um that that has
[55:58] happened and I'm glad that you came down
and and this is what we have these
[56:02] meetings for. So to be continued.
>> Okay.
[56:05] » Okay.
>> Thank you.
[56:06] » Thank you. I just want to
>> I I can u I can
[56:13] » I can understand your passion. I can I
can feel your passion.
[56:16] » I respect your passion.
>> I can feel your passion and you
[56:18] certainly um Miss Thai Matus.
[56:24] » Yep. Come on up. Okay. Uh is Miss Is it
Mr. or Mrs.
[56:29] » Oh. Okay. So when she's done you you
come out. Okay.
[56:36] » Hi
Hi, mayor of Pereira, everyone. Uh, my
[56:40] name is Laura Rad. I'm uh um on Mamm
Road and I just wanted to know, you
[56:44] know, so living in Minnola for 49 years
for me it lately we've seen so many
[56:51] changes and of course as residents it's
it's been upsetting buildings, trees,
[56:57] concrete change. Um, could you explain
to us,
[57:04] you know, it it seems like there's so
many trees that have been removed, but
[57:07] maybe it's just my eyes or maybe it's
the section. Is there a certain rotation
[57:11] or or trees planted say every 20 or 30
years and then they all uh rip up
[57:17] concrete? Is there some type of rotation
that we we know about that at least we
[57:21] have an understanding?
>> Good good question. Um, and you class of
[57:26] 90
>> 94.
[57:28] » 94. Okay. So my first year teaching you
were senior. Okay. Um very good because
[57:33] I remember the name. Um
so for example last year we did
[57:39] Wellington Road and Garfield south of um
Jericho Turnpike. So last year 25 this
[57:46] year in November, December we will plant
because that's what you you plant the
[57:51] trees when they're dormant like leading
up into the winter so that when the
[57:54] spring comes they've kind of established
themselves and they should grow at that
[58:00] point. So that's how we do it. So two
years ago we did Colonial down by
[58:05] Hampton Stadium and and um you know
those dead ends uh Hampton Street,
[58:10] Plymouth, etc. And then we planted last
year the trees. So it's so that's one
[58:16] year behind when we just cut trees
because they're diseased because you
[58:21] know large branches came off or a
resident uh requested for a variety of
[58:27] reasons bringing up the sidewalk in the
sewer lines etc which it does happen.
[58:32] We'll cut down that tree. We'll let the
um the stump usually dry like for about
[58:37] a year. come back, ground the the stump
down. If the um utilities are nowhere
[58:45] near there, we'll usually plant the tree
back relatively in the same spot. If
[58:50] some of these things grow into
utilities, whether it's, you know, gas
[58:53] or water or or sewer, we'll will move
the tree. Um so there isn't a um a a
[59:02] cycle per se of 20 or 30 years. We will
I will say this that 50 60 years ago the
[59:09] village planted trees that we grew up
with that probably should not have been
[59:13] planted oaks
u you know uh sycamores etc. um that
[59:20] were way too big. So when those trees
get cut down obviously you lose a big
[59:25] tree. We replace them with trees that
will never get that big. And how long do
[59:31] you feel as though the trees that you're
planting now, what is their lifespan?
[59:35] » Plenty.
[59:58] few years ago
never
[1:00:01] » and and we do have and I'm sorry I
should have asked Mr. plumber to come
[1:00:05] up. But what he said is that trees that
we plant now grow to about 30 35 feet
[1:00:11] and that we may take them down.
Sometimes there's diseases that go
[1:00:14] around. You may have seen and we got
criticized. I remember um probably about
[1:00:19] 15 years ago where we trimmed back all
the trees on Manila Boulevard between
[1:00:24] Jericho and the station. And for like a
couple of months, it just looked like
[1:00:29] these sticks sticking up. And people
thought that we were crazy. But that's
[1:00:32] actually how you make the tree
healthier, right? Because it sprouts new
[1:00:36] growth. Those of us that own fig trees,
that's kind of what you're supposed to
[1:00:40] do is you trim so that the tree doesn't
get big so that that the strength uh
[1:00:44] kind of stays compact. Um so we do trim
trees to keep them healthier, to keep
[1:00:50] them uh out of the wires, uh to keep
them uh from overgrowing. And sometimes
[1:00:56] you know trees for example if they
develop a branch like this I I don't
[1:01:00] want to I don't know if is it the crotch
of the tree the crotch of the tree right
[1:01:04] so the crotch of the tree water gets
there sits there and it begins to rot
[1:01:09] and then that's when a lot of times
you'll see trees in in not such big
[1:01:13] storms they'll just snap like at that
point. Um, so we trim them to try to
[1:01:18] avoid that situation or if we see that a
tree is beginning to rot exactly that we
[1:01:24] may take it down preemptively. So to
answer your question, we do have a
[1:01:29] system for replacing trees that we take
down um as part of a road reconstruction
[1:01:34] project, usually the following year. We
do have a a protocol for replacing trees
[1:01:40] that we take down when we just take down
a tree here and a tree there. usually
[1:01:44] again the year after, but then things
come up, you know, we have storms and
[1:01:49] trees fall or or there may be an
emergency or maybe where somebody has to
[1:01:54] be to the to the top of the list. But
again,
[1:01:58] if you go upstairs, we have for the last
40 or 50 years been designated Tree City
[1:02:03] USA. In order to do that, we have to
plant a certain number of trees. We have
[1:02:07] to do a certain number of things and we
do them. This year, we're going to plant
[1:02:11] 200 trees. 80 of them we're getting from
the town, so it's not costing us
[1:02:15] anything and they're going to plant
them. We're not going to plant them. Um,
[1:02:19] but they're going to plant them in the
village. In Memorial Park, uh, we used
[1:02:22] to have some beautiful large trees. Last
year, one of them was hit by lightning.
[1:02:27] I remember. Um, and we had to take it
down, but we replaced it. Did we replace
[1:02:32] it with a 60oot tree? No, we didn't
replace it with a 60oot tree because,
[1:02:37] you know, you're
>> not doing that anymore. So,
[1:02:39] » well, that that's that. Thank you for
the explanation because it clears things
[1:02:42] up. You know, I think people have this
idea, you know, you're walking down the
[1:02:47] street and saying, "Hey, that's a
smaller tree. That pavement's not, you
[1:02:50] know, ripped up. This tree seemed
healthy." But I think maybe to explain
[1:02:56] what you just did, I know it cleared
some of the the concerns I had. And I'm
[1:03:00] I'm
>> I can't tell you how many times and and
[1:03:03] usually Mr. Palumbo and Mr. Ina before
him was the the messenger where people
[1:03:11] ask with with the same passion that we
just heard about saving trees. People
[1:03:16] come to us with the same passion to take
down the trees from something as trivial
[1:03:20] as I don't like the color of the leaves
falling on my car to a branch fell on it
[1:03:24] once, whatever. And you know what we
tell them more often than not? No. We
[1:03:28] say no. Is it disease? No. Is it
dangerous? No. Is it bumping out the
[1:03:33] curb? No. Is it raising the sidewalk?
No. Is it in your water man? No. Is it
[1:03:36] in your sewer main? No. Yeah, perfectly
healthy tree. Sorry. And then I get beat
[1:03:41] up on social media for that. So, you
know, and then people,
[1:03:47] oh, I've been on the tree list for two
years. So this year we used our uh
[1:03:52] concrete requirements contract to
actually put into a contract to have an
[1:03:57] outside tree cutting place because the
same people that cut down the trees are
[1:04:01] the same people who plow your snow, the
same people who fill your potholes, the
[1:04:04] same people who cut the grass at the
parks, the same people who get us ready
[1:04:08] for street fairs and parades. So, you
know, everything happens, you know, the
[1:04:12] pool season, the spring cleaning season,
the winter season, the leaf season. And
[1:04:17] these are the same 20 some odd guys who
do all of this. Uh, so what we did is we
[1:04:23] put about $130,000,
>> a little bit more into catching up on
[1:04:29] that tree list. We were about two or
three years behind.
[1:04:36] » Oh, that's
[1:04:40] spread out,
>> right? And so now what we hope is we
[1:04:44] caught up and now we'll just take down
those trees that are diseased, that are,
[1:04:49] you know, dangerous for whatever reason
they have to come down. So now we should
[1:04:53] be on a more, you know, even even pace,
but yet replacing every single tree that
[1:05:00] we cut down. Uh, Miss Trusty Salowski
was just telling me uh that there were
[1:05:05] people on Wellington who don't want a
tree put back. They beg us to not put a
[1:05:10] tree back. Great. You cut this tree down
and we hated it. We don't want one. And
[1:05:15] you know what we tell them? Too bad.
You're getting one.
[1:05:19] So,
>> it's got to be a happy medium. So, thank
[1:05:21] you.
>> Thank you for the explanation.
[1:05:23] » Thank you, Mr. Matus.
>> Am I pronouncing that correctly? That's
[1:05:27] right. Yep. Thank you.
[1:05:38] Sorry to keep you waiting.
>> No, it's okay. Interesting.
[1:05:42] » I think so.
>> Yeah. Um,
[1:05:45] uh, sorry. Good evening. My name's Ty.
I'm a minola resident, a neighbor of,
[1:05:50] uh, Mr. Card. So,
>> sorry about that.
[1:05:53] » No, he's he's great.
Um, I'm here because uh some people on
[1:06:00] my street, Argo Road, we've become
increasingly concerned about some
[1:06:04] dangerous driving on our street and some
surrounding streets uh multiple times a
[1:06:09] day and at night. We we see cars coming
down the block at high speeds. We've
[1:06:15] hear tires screeching and uh drivers
regularly fail to stop at the stop sign.
[1:06:21] Um and several of our neighbors have
noticed it and are as concern are as
[1:06:27] concerned as we are as well. Uh our
street connects with Hillside Avenue and
[1:06:32] it's become apparent that drivers are
being routed through these residential
[1:06:37] neighborhood streets as a shortcut
whether it be Google Maps or Apple Maps
[1:06:41] or ways you know but we have children uh
families walking kids on bikes and pets
[1:06:46] on this block and we're getting worried
that you know a serious accident could
[1:06:50] happen. So, we were just going to ask if
the village could look into this and
[1:06:55] consider a traffic safety study or um
we're open to suggestions, but any kind
[1:07:00] of appropriate traffic calming measures,
whether it be
[1:07:05] uh
>> you know the signs that show the speed
[1:07:08] or um some kind of enforcement or just
I'll look into it. I'm I'm open to
[1:07:12] suggestions.
>> Okay. Um thank you. And this is also
[1:07:15] personal to me because my brother and my
mother live on that block as well.
[1:07:19] » Okay. Um, so I am there a lot.
>> Yeah.
[1:07:22] » Um, I try not to go in front of Mr.
Casado's house. Um,
[1:07:26] » he's a great neighbor.
>> Yeah, absolutely. He cuts everybody's
[1:07:29] grass and you know, or used to used to
cut everybody's lawn.
[1:07:32] » I used to. Not anymore.
>> Not anymore. Um, now my brother does it.
[1:07:37] Um, but I have noticed that and I do
notice and you're absolutely right. It
[1:07:40] is somewhat of a cutthrough. Often times
I also see people coming um out of
[1:07:46] Watkins. Yep. you know, and just like
there's no stop sign there because it's
[1:07:50] kind of makes a turn. Um, we did have um
a gentleman who was hit there while
[1:07:56] running, Mr. Coo, a couple about a year
ago. We have it on video um the driver,
[1:08:02] » but a local person. So, a lot of times
the people that are speeding are your
[1:08:07] neighbors. Yes. Okay. Uh I mean, not Mr.
Casado. I've seen him drive. You can
[1:08:11] walk faster. Um but a lot of times it is
people, kids, etc. And in this case, it
[1:08:16] was someone there who was on their phone
and and hit this gentleman. I I actually
[1:08:21] saw the video and it was pretty scary.
Thankfully, he popped right up and he he
[1:08:24] was fine. So, I am going to say that
>> two things we're going to do.
[1:08:29] » Number one, my first thing tomorrow
morning is we're going to call the
[1:08:32] police uh third precinct, have them put
a little bit more attention there
[1:08:37] because often times it's about
re-education and and people kind of,
[1:08:42] » okay, there's going to be a cop there.
So, that's number one. Number two, I'm
[1:08:45] going to ask Mr. Palumbo. We do have
those signs that we can take from one
[1:08:49] part of the village to the other that
say how fast uh people are going and
[1:08:54] sometimes you need to be reminded.
Sometimes you're not even, you know,
[1:08:56] you're distracted. You're like, "Oh my
god, I'm going 38 miles an hour down the
[1:09:01] street." So, we'll do that. Um, and then
beyond that, we we are looking at I've
[1:09:08] noticed in some in some areas where they
actually write the word stop on the
[1:09:13] pavement. before the stop sign.
>> Sometimes that's an additional, you
[1:09:18] know, reminder or things like rumble
strips, like when you approach a toll
[1:09:24] booth, you know, that kind of reminds
you to slow down. Um, so we're looking
[1:09:30] at different traffic coming devices. I
know everyone would want a speed bump,
[1:09:33] but speed bumps bring up all other kinds
of issues and problems and and liability
[1:09:39] and and um it just not as practical,
especially on a street that short. But
[1:09:46] um absolutely um number one, we're going
to call the third precinct yes tomorrow
[1:09:51] and ask them to focus for the next
couple of weeks there. Maybe a little
[1:09:55] re-education. And number two, if we have
one of those um cameras, we will uh post
[1:10:01] one there. Um and again, hopefully, and
especially now because you do have a lot
[1:10:06] of kids on that block, school has
started, school bus stops, you know, I
[1:10:10] see it. Um so it's certainly um it has
not gone unnoticed for sure.
[1:10:16] » It's probably why I'm concerned. I have
a one-year-old at home now, so um I
[1:10:21] don't think I was thinking about it
before, but now he's starting to walk
[1:10:23] around. You start you start looking at
the world differently. happen one 100%
[1:10:27] and as you should. So, uh thank you for
bringing that to our attention and we'll
[1:10:32] uh we'll certainly try to do something
to mitigate it.
[1:10:34] » I appreciate you.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
[1:10:37] » See you in the morning.
[1:10:41] » U Mrs. Patton.
[1:10:54] » Hello. Uh Terry Patton, 213 Roosevelt
Avenue. We have a situation on our block
[1:11:01] that is starting to get out of control.
I am zoned R3. So two family houses can
[1:11:08] be built.
There are now two houses that are up for
[1:11:12] being made two family homes that don't
have the 75 by 100 space. There is a
[1:11:19] loophole in the code that is now being
taken advantage of.
[1:11:29] This is only my second time ever coming
to a meeting. The first time was to
[1:11:33] fight a two family house being built.
That was denied because it was on a 50
[1:11:38] by 100 lot.
Our block is super busy.
[1:11:42] » Had to have been before 2008.
>> Nope. It was
[1:11:46] 2023.
>> So not here though.
[1:11:49] » Not No Man.
>> No. No. No. But not at this board.
[1:11:52] » No. No, I was at the zoning board.
>> Oh, zoning board. Okay.
[1:11:56] » So, um, one of the houses already that's
on 58 by 100 has already been turned
[1:12:02] into a two family with no variances
required because of this loophole
[1:12:08] section B. Um, and the next house, which
is on 50 by 100, wants to be a two
[1:12:15] family house. and because of this code
that's in now um they are taking
[1:12:22] advantage of it. So basically I was told
any house within our block can become a
[1:12:29] two family house without going for a
variant. Obviously you'd have to go for
[1:12:33] the construction
>> part. Um the very end of our block is
[1:12:38] commercially zoned so we have a lot of
traffic that comes from there.
[1:12:42] » I'm sorry Pat. Are you between um the
Roosevelt but between what? Jackson and
[1:12:48] » Jackson and Lincoln. No, Jackson and
Clinton.
[1:12:51] » Clinton. Okay.
>> Um basically all our houses are smaller
[1:12:56] regular houses. Now we have a little
McMansion and now they're creeping down
[1:13:01] this way. Um I figured this would be a
great place to come. How do we get this
[1:13:08] clause taken out of a billing? What is
the procedure to get this clause
[1:13:13] removed? In fact, it you guys were all
sent you all you guys you were all sent
[1:13:18] letters uh by my neighbor Barbara Bourne
that talked about the two houses
[1:13:23] » that were by the same owner. Pat Kesler
had both plots. So, it wasn't a
[1:13:29] subdivided plot. and now they're one of
them is up for
[1:13:36] um no construction's happened yet
because they haven't gone to the uh
[1:13:40] zoning meetings in the last two months.
>> Okay.
[1:13:43] » Uh this is so as you correctly stated,
we don't deal with with zoning. That's
[1:13:49] the board of zoning and appeals. Um and
I presume that that's where they're
[1:13:54] going. Um so,
>> you know, and Mr. Mr. I figured with the
[1:13:59] lawyer here, he might be able to say,
"How do you go about getting this
[1:14:04] loophole changed because it's going to
drastically change?"
[1:14:09] » But I would think I would think um so
what I've been told for for many years
[1:14:14] that it's nearly impossible to change
zoning. That's Mr. Gibbons will correct
[1:14:20] me if I'm if I'm wrong. Um, but even if
we could change that wouldn't
[1:14:26] necessarily affect these applicants,
these two applicants that you're talking
[1:14:31] about or is it two or is it one?
>> Well, it's one one hasn't done their one
[1:14:35] hasn't touched the house yet.
>> Okay. So, I I would presume that they
[1:14:39] would be like grandfathered in. So, your
house is a one family house,
[1:14:43] » correct?
>> On a 50 by 500 y. Um, I know the area
[1:14:47] and I know that it is R3 and I know that
there is a significant number of two
[1:14:51] family houses there. I don't know what
the percentage is, but I I do know that
[1:14:55] there are two family houses. So, Mr.
Gibbons, do you do you have this thing?
[1:14:58] » I do.
>> Okay. So, what what So, you're asking
[1:15:01] how do we change this,
>> right? How do we how do we not have the
[1:15:04] loophole be taken advantage of where now
we're going to have two family homes on
[1:15:09] 50 by 100 lots,
>> right? I I think the genesis of that
[1:15:14] provision was 25 years ago or so when
they upzone the area to require a
[1:15:21] extended frontage.
People were up in arms saying, "Hey,
[1:15:26] listen. I have a property right now
where I can put a two family in this R
[1:15:31] zone." and they put this provision in
that if you were single and separate,
[1:15:36] you know, oc October 1990, that you
don't lose that right to have a two
[1:15:42] family in the R3.
>> No matter what size lot.
[1:15:48] » I I think it's I think it's 50, right?
>> Five 5,000
[1:15:52] » 5,000 square feet. 50 by 100 by 100.
>> Yeah.
[1:15:55] » Um so if I understand So I own a house
before 1990.
[1:16:01] That's 50 by 100. Mr. Casado next door
owns a house 50 by 100. It's in the R3.
[1:16:08] 30 years later, the person can build a
two family on my law.
[1:16:14] » Yes. Subject to, you know,
>> but what if the property was bought
[1:16:17] after 1990?
>> I'm sorry.
[1:16:20] » If the property was purchased after
1990,
[1:16:24] » it doesn't apply. Correct. was under
different ownership from that of
[1:16:28] » if it was single and separate,
meaning it existed. It wasn't owned by
[1:16:34] the same individuals
that they have the right
[1:16:38] » but the new owners have the right.
>> The new owners have the right. Ownership
[1:16:42] ne ownership never matters in zoning.
You know, it always runs with the land,
[1:16:46] not the individual,
>> right?
[1:16:49] So if the person owned both lots
>> then they would merge
[1:16:55] and they would not be single and
separate.
[1:16:57] » Correct.
>> Did they have a merge
[1:17:00] » houses next to each other?
>> Yes.
[1:17:02] » And did they have a merge?
>> It was the same homeowner.
[1:17:06] » But do they have a merge?
>> And and that would I I would think that
[1:17:10] would be your subject at the zoning
hearing. Has that been scheduled?
[1:17:14] » Um yes. But what is scheduled is not
whether it can be a two family or not.
[1:17:20] What's only on the zoning is to make it
they want to go bigger than what's
[1:17:25] allowed.
>> Right. So what we did what we did to to
[1:17:29] your point is here we did pass um first
floor area.
[1:17:35] » Yes. That I understand. So they're going
they are going for
[1:17:38] » a variance to make it bigger than
allowed. That I understand.
[1:17:41] » But is it a two family today?
Okay. Well, that's the that's the
[1:17:46] argument I would pose then.
>> But are there two families on that block
[1:17:51] on 50 by 100?
>> No. Well, now there is on the 58 by 100
[1:17:55] » besides that one. There's no no other
one.
[1:17:57] » No.
>> You know that for sure.
[1:18:02] A and again I say this not having looked
at anything
[1:18:05] » because I don't represent
>> I'm just asking for things to get more
[1:18:09] looked into because if this has happened
with one house already is now 58 by 100
[1:18:14] is now a two family with no variances.
We were never notified. So there was a
[1:18:18] loophole there.
>> Now it's the next house. Same owners
[1:18:24] family owners bought this one. That
means every house on our block could
[1:18:29] become a two family. Where are we
putting all these cars? Where are if if
[1:18:35] our block would be out of control? It's
already so busy right now with the
[1:18:40] commercial that creeps up on our end.
>> So, um
[1:18:45] » that's why I'm asking for help. My
understanding my understanding and and
[1:18:48] I've never served on a board of zoning
and appeals is what I've been told and
[1:18:54] understood is that things have to be in
keeping with the character of the area.
[1:19:01] So in other words, let's say there are
13 houses on the block. If seven of them
[1:19:06] are two family, then that's relatively
keeping within like I've heard this a
[1:19:10] lot is when we subdivide when when
subdivisions have happened. So there was
[1:19:16] a 120 by 100 lot and some guy came in
and made 340s by 100, right? And people
[1:19:22] are like up in arms. And then you go to
find out that every other house on the
[1:19:26] block is 40 by 100.
>> No, we have a mix of 75 by 100 and 50 by
[1:19:31] 100. The 75 by 100s are two families and
then the 50 by 100s are single families.
[1:19:39] » Right. I I mean I I I know the
neighborhood. I can't see
[1:19:43] » the houses, but
>> is there a a way
[1:19:48] that this code doesn't get taken
advantage of
[1:19:52] » from here on out?
>> Well, the one house hasn't hasn't been
[1:19:55] approved for their to made bigger. So, I
would love to see that stay a single
[1:19:59] family. Um, I just didn't know which
where to go.
[1:20:03] » Mr. Gibbons, if we wanted to change 4B
here, would we do this or
[1:20:09] » Yes,
>> we do it. Okay. But I would think and
[1:20:12] again I I'm not an attorney that because
they put in their application
[1:20:18] like we can't retroactively
>> No, I no I understand that
[1:20:22] » what we can do is prevent
>> you know anyone else because so this
[1:20:25] this board addressed what we saw with
our eyes
[1:20:30] deputy mayor Sartorii speaking of Mr.
The house next door to him
[1:20:35] » is a castle
>> is tremendous.
[1:20:37] » It's a castle.
>> I don't like it either. We didn't like
[1:20:40] it. We didn't know it. We didn't see it.
That went to the BCA. But it was houses
[1:20:45] like that that prompted us to put in
place the GFA the I understand which
[1:20:52] now. So I guess the question and again
all this has to be in BCA and I don't
[1:20:57] want to step on their toes. They're the
ones that that do this. Um, is is your
[1:21:03] issue
with the size or with the fact that it's
[1:21:07] two family?
>> If if Minola says that you can build if
[1:21:10] you have 50 by 100 lot and you can build
up to 2500 square ft, great. Build that
[1:21:15] big. The house right now is 1,200 square
feet.
[1:21:18] » So, it's doubling in size. So, already
it's going to be made bigger. But that's
[1:21:21] the law,
>> right?
[1:21:23] » If they want the varian,
>> which by the way is much better than it
[1:21:25] was ago.
>> 100%. And if they want to make it
[1:21:29] bigger, which they do, they'll go in
front of the zoning board. They missed
[1:21:33] out for the last two months. They
adjourned. Then the zoning board will
[1:21:38] either approve it. I'll be there saying,
"I don't want it bigger than 2500 square
[1:21:41] foot." My issue is we don't need more
two family homes on small lots. If you
[1:21:49] think of parking,
>> you know, in front of your house, how
[1:21:52] many cars can you fit in front of your
house? Well, now you have tenants. Now
[1:21:57] you have another set of cars already.
The house next door that was approved
[1:22:02] without a variance because of this
loophole.
[1:22:06] It's already built. There's nothing I
can do about that. I would love to see
[1:22:10] something happen with this little house
that it doesn't become a two family and
[1:22:15] I will be there at the meeting to
address how big it is. Um, but with this
[1:22:22] in the code, apparently there's this
loophole that people are going around
[1:22:27] the 75 by 100.
>> I'm sorry. What they're what the
[1:22:31] application is that on the 50 by 100. Is
it an application for just a larger home
[1:22:35] or for a two family?
>> Oh, no. It's already been told to me
[1:22:38] that it will be a two family home.
>> The application is for a two family.
[1:22:43] » Well,
>> so if we change this, that application
[1:22:45] is already in as a two family. I don't
know how it would become a two family
[1:22:48] home when it's it was a single family
home. It's in Nassau County records as a
[1:22:53] single family home.
>> But in the two family zone,
[1:22:55] » but it's in the two family zone.
>> Right. So
[1:22:58] » that's where this wanted to um taint
anything. But I I think that
[1:23:06] the question becomes, well, I'm in the
two family zone. It's not like I'm
[1:23:11] trying to build a two family house
>> in the one family zone,
[1:23:15] » right? I'm in the zone where this is
permitted. Um, and to your point, maybe
[1:23:20] we do need to take a look at this, but
you can't blame people for,
[1:23:24] » you know, using the the what's
permitted. I I don't know why in 1990
[1:23:30] the board decided to do this. I I don't
know what what the reasoning was. Uh,
[1:23:36] and and I don't anticipate that all of a
sudden, you know, you you live there.
[1:23:41] You're not turning your house into a two
family.
[1:23:45] » No, but who you know that's a that's a
great selling point,
[1:23:48] » right?
>> I want to sell my house. Listen, you can
[1:23:50] make it a two family,
>> right?
[1:23:53] » So, where where does it stop is my
question.
[1:23:56] » Well, it stops when you don't live in a
two family zone,
[1:24:00] » but when it's always been you needed 75
by 100 to build a two family home.
[1:24:06] » I mean, I'm taking you at your word. I I
don't know.
[1:24:09] » I mean, I've been there. I've been on my
block 32 years. So I, you know, I'd like
[1:24:12] to study why they felt the need to put
this in in 1990 or whenever it was.
[1:24:20] There had to have been a reason,
>> right? So I my request is to be able to
[1:24:24] via a lawyer to look at that code a
little more carefully, especially with
[1:24:29] the house that I'm talking about, um,
and see what can be done because
[1:24:33] construction has not started on it. They
have not been approved for anything yet.
[1:24:38] So, I'd rather see something happen
before any construction happens.
[1:24:43] » I I do believe that we would have to
notice and have a hearing or No.
[1:24:47] » Yes. It would be a local law to amend
the code section.
[1:24:52] » Uh and you said when when is the
hearing?
[1:24:54] » The end of September.
>> Yeah. So, I I don't think that this
[1:24:59] board would be able to act
>> that quickly. There's a process. we have
[1:25:04] to notice then we'd have to have a
hearing and then we have to you know
[1:25:07] there's there's a pro what we could do
is look at this and if we decide that we
[1:25:11] do want to uh close this loophole for
future development I mean I think you
[1:25:18] know lose the battle to win the war kind
of mentality. Um and that's that's what
[1:25:22] we did with the GFA like we couldn't go
back and tell Mr. Casado's neighbor Mr.
[1:25:27] London's neighbor that, you know, hey,
you know, cut the uh top off your house
[1:25:33] when he had already started. What we did
and what we can do, and it's it's had
[1:25:39] some unintended consequences because
there are not every person who wants to
[1:25:44] expand their house is a developer who's
looking to flip it. You know, some
[1:25:48] people actually live in it. They are
family. they they had a child, they had
[1:25:52] a second child, so they want to, you
know, blow out the the cape or whatever
[1:25:56] it is. And we don't want to punish those
people, right? But we also at the same
[1:26:00] time want to kind of uh rein in uh the
people who are just in it
[1:26:06] » to make money,
>> right? So, but but in this case,
[1:26:11] » you know what? I'll give them trees and
I'll take zoning. Okay. And and on the
[1:26:17] tree note, I want to say um
>> there was somebody from your block here
[1:26:20] talking about cutting down. They they
argued about cutting down a tree. Was it
[1:26:24] your tree that was going into the sewer?
No.
[1:26:25] » No.
>> No.
[1:26:27] » We have little trees. Um that it is
important to take care of your sidewalks
[1:26:31] as I'm a runner and I run on West Berry
Avenue and in March I fractured both my
[1:26:36] arms from a lifted sidewalk.
>> You should run on Wellington.
[1:26:40] » It's not my loop, but um I appreciate
it. So, how um
[1:26:44] » Oh, well, we're going to talk and I
mean, you just gave us this, so we're
[1:26:48] going to look.
>> No, no, I didn't know if um
[1:26:50] » it's our board.
>> Excellent. Yes. Thank you.
[1:26:54] » Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To change the
zoning is our board.
[1:26:57] » But to address that particular
>> Oh, no. No. I'll be at the zoning
[1:27:00] meeting.
>> That's not us. Thank you.
[1:27:02] » Okay. Thank you, Miss Patton.
>> Anybody else wishes to speak? Okay. I'll
[1:27:07] entertain a motion to close uh the
public meeting.
[1:27:10] » Motion. Motion by Deputy MR Choice,
seconded by Trusty Cassado in favor. I
[1:27:15] opposed. Motion carries.
>> Friday sounds on second.
[1:27:20] » Friday, September 11th, 6 o'clock at
Memorial Park. Hope to see you there.
[1:27:24] Thank you. Have a great night, everyone.
[1:27:32] » It didn't record.
[1:27:36] » I know. suffer. Yeah.