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» We're good. Thank you.

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» All right. I'd like to call this meeting

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to order for the city council of

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Minatrista. Um but first, I'd like

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everybody to rise to say the pledge of

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allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» Well, Mayor Whan is out ill tonight and

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her normal replacement, uh, Kathleen

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uh, so I'm Peter Vickery and I'm taking

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over tonight. Um to to my left I have

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council member Claudia Lacy and Brian

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McGovern and public works director Gary

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» Uh assistant county excuse me assistant

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city manager Paula Bowman and to my

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right Jasper Krugal the city manager and

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not sure if anybody's on remotely.

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» Uh let's see. I think we do have a few.

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director, and then Sarah Solo, our city

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attorney. Oh,

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» Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh, so

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before we begin, I understand that there

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are two items that will be taking off

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» Uh, yes, if I may. Um, Council Member

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Vicky, uh, the two business items, uh,

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we're proposing to take off the agenda.

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which is a four fifths vote in order to

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pass or to be denied. Um and the other

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item is kind of paired with it as well.

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that to February 18th. Um on February

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18th we should have a full city council

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» Okay. All right. So do I have a motion

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to approve the agenda?

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» So moved.

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» All in favor? I

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» All right. Well, before we proceed with

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that, it's my pleasure to honor Michael

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Kirkwood, who has done so much for this

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community and Lake Minnotonka

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as a member of the Lake Matonka

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Conservation Board. Um, how many years

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have we been on there? Looks like six.

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» If we could get a little photo op here

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with you and council member Vickery,

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that'd be great. I think um Paul I can

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grab something. Thanks

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» All right. Congratulations. Thank you

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very much. Pleas

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» Smile together. Thank you.

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Thank you, Michael.

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» So, we just have one person to be heard.

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» Oh, Christian.

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» All right.

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heard and I understand that Bob

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Christians you want to see. Could you

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come to the microphone? Of course, we

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» Okay. Well, first of all, as a member or

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College conference now called West, I

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first of all, I'd like to say thank you

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to all the people here at Trista for

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your support of all the events that we

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take place in. Uh it's really

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appreciated as uh uh as Jasper knows and

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and Craig, you're coming up with the

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next polar plunge, which is next

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it won't be 40 below windchill because

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then Claudia won't jump in the lake when

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it's that cold. But anyway, I'm sorry to

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be here. I've been a resident here in

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West Taka for uh since 1989

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and this has never happened before and

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appreciate all you do. I used to sit in

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that chair myself years ago. Uh but uh

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we had a situation come up where uh I

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got my water bill and uh I I I didn't

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know what to I mean it was crazy. And so

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Jasper I was talking to my plumber uh

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regarding what happened. So he checked

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everything out and went through

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everything and he found out that there

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was a problem. And the problem was from

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the Minatrista city water line. There

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was some debris in the line that created

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and caused this to be open. So I mean he

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said it's really nothing you could have

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done. It's it's basically the city's

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response or fault whatever be. So, what

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I'm asking for is not for you to forget

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the whole bill. I'm here as a hopefully

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just split it with me and pay the cost

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of what it is could cost me uh and split

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it 50/50. And I put that on the notes

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that I think Jasper has given you.

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» Each of you have that. And I hopefully

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that we can resolve this. Uh uh we all

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got better things to do and it's going

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to be cold. So stay warm this weekend

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and be safe and hopefully we can come to

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a resolution where I think asking you

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for 50% or half of what the cost would

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be is is reasonable and fair. So thank

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you for all you do and thank you for

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your time. Any questions?

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leave here? Well, like somebody I mean,

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» It sounds like the two of you have been

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talking. Uh, how how long has this been

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plumber and got a little bit more

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story, I guess. Um, couple things that

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have discretion to modify utility bills,

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right? So that's a city council thing.

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this further, I would say we we put it

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policy together that that I've worked on

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in the past in a past city where you can

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look at some of these things and and and

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and look at what happened and and come

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up with a a solution potentially with

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this if that's something that you'd like

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to look at. Um we could do that at a

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probably the 18th would be the best

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to to look at this and create a policy.

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a one-off thing, I would say should if

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we're going to do it as a city, we

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should do a policy so that if it happens

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to another resident that we have the

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ability to to say here's a form, fill it

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to city council, you guys evaluate it

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and either approve or deny it.

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anyway, thank you. Yes.

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believe that there was any debris.

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of a [clears throat] mineral issue

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either, you know, because we do not take

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out iron. There's always calcium in the

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water. So, you know, I mean, that's why

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every six months you should be cleaning,

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softener. I mean, we've had issues with

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anything in the water that caused this.

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mindboggling that there'd be a quote

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unquote chunk of plastic in our water. I

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mean, it's just it's it's not

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reasonable. I mean, it can happen, I

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just going with my plumber saying this

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make sure that we can resolve this thing

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in a friendly manner.

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» Great. No questions.

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» Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for

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your participating in the all the events

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that we take place in.

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» Thank you. Well, I think maybe we should

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bring that up to the general counsel and

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in the work session and figure out a

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» Alison as well

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would be good. Somebody contact me to

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a minute, they'll probably give you

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direction and then you'll know right

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» Well, yeah, it sounds like we're in

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unison that we would like to bring this

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up at the B session on February 18th.

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will [clears throat] need to as well

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» All [snorts] right. So,

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» February 18th, work session 5:00 p.m.

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» February 18th. Uh, you know what?

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» The bill is going to be due by then.

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» Well, I'll talk to our utility. If it's

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all right with you, I'll talk to the

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utility billing and put a hold.

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» I think the bill is due with 16.

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» I don't want another problem. I just

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» Yeah. No, we'll we'll make sure that

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» Okay. Thank you. Okay. Uh let's see. So,

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there are no other people to be heard,

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so we'll close that session. Um then

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we'll move on to the consent agenda. Are

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there any additions or items that anyone

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Nope. No. All right. Well, uh let's go

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through those then. Uh so, u item A is

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approve the city council regular meeting

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uh minutes uh from January,

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uh 7th. Uh item B is resolution number

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8-26,

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approve claims. Uh C is resolution

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number 926 approve extension of

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preliminary plat for highlands at Whale

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Lake, excuse me. Uh item D is resolution

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number 1026 approve simple subdivision

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between 3265

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and 3320 Williams Lane. Item E is

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resolution number 1126.

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Authorize ex execution of accessory

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structure agreement with the MCWD

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at 6300 Painters Road, excuse me,

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Painter Road. Uh item F is resolution

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number 1226, approved purchase for

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replacement of the ditch flail mower.

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Thank you for getting a little better

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price than that we estimate, by the way.

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Um, and then item G is uh, resolution

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number 1326, accept improvements and

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authorize final payments for Minneapolis

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Avenue drainage work.

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Do I have a motion? So moved.

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» Second.

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» All in favor?

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» I oppose. Passes unanimously.

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» Okay. Uh, I don't think we have any

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public hearings. Okay. you know, we're

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not going to discuss the business items.

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Um,

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okay. Administrative items. We have

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staff reports.

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» Uh, yeah, Council Member McCree. Um, the

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only thing I want to bring up is uh the

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strategic planning uh session. We have

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that scheduled for uh February 26th

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starting at 3 p.m. Uh we're hoping that

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can wrap up by 6 PM and then uh we have

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a joint city council meeting with the

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city of St. Bonafacious here at our city

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council chambers starting at 6:30. Um so

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hopefully it works out for everybody.

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It's it's you know scheduling is is

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challenging so if if you can't make it

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just let me know. Um but I think St.

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Bonnie has four out of their five that

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are able to attend. Um and in general we

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we kind of crafted an agenda that talks

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about the fire partnership. Um St.

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Bonnie has an annexation request uh from

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uh Minatrista. a little portion of land

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that Minatrista is in is in the

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corporate limits of Minitrista that

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they'd like to discuss with us about

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possibly giving to them. Um and then the

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third item is the water interconnect

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agreement that we um have been working

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on on and off for probably the last

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three years. Um and hopefully we can get

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get that finalized. So those are the

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three items.

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» Okay, great. Um any other reports from

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staff? Oh, council reports.

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» Um, well, I guess I can say that, um, I

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had a board meeting with the Gillespie

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Center last night and their their

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biggest issue right now is they have a

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25-year-old HVAC system and it's quite

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costly. The most, I think, competitive

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bid they have is about $188,000.

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And so, um, I contacted Gary because he

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knows a lot about things like that. He

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gave me some additional people just to

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maybe run that by and do some checking.

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Um, gosh, they have a new president um

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on the board who's wonderful, has a lot

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of business experience, corporate

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experience. She's lovely. And her name

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is

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uh

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Carlson D. I want to say Donna Carlson.

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I I'm not her last name is Carlson. And

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uh she's wonderful. Um

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that's really about it as far as that's

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concerned. The Minnesota or the um Lake

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Minnetonka

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Community Commerce um organization was

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kind of like our chamber of commerce is

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changing names. Um, I mentioned last

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time to connect West Hanka has like a

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logo with a bridge kind of connecting

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nonprofits, forprofits,

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the the city government, um, all things

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down in the western suburbs. Um, they've

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got Plan Moose, which is um, kind of a

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wonderful marketing company that's going

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to be helping us kind of really get up

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and running and bring it to a new level.

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So, City of Manista is uh one of their

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uh members and um the charity I run is

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also a member. So, we're um giving them

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quite a bit of support and hopefully

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it'll drive some more business and

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interest to the little community.

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» That's about it.

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» Brian, no updates for me.

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» Okay. Uh well, I was at the Pioneer

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Sarah Creek watershed board meeting and

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um uh they're promoting the uh

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responsible use of salt, which seems

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very appropriate given all the icy

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conditions that we have out outside

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here, but they're pointing out that just

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a tablespoon of salt will

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[clears throat] ruin five gallons of

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water, which Mike probably knows. So,

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they're really trying to rain that in

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and just use it where it's absolutely

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necessary.

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Um I talked with Gary about this in the

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past know that the city is very

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responsible for this item. So that

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that's encouraging. Um so that's it for

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me. Um

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well um guess this is a

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» What do we use other than salt here?

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» Uh well gravel or what do you call it?

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Not sand but uh

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» What was the question?

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» What do you use besides salt?

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um supposed to be still using like a

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salt sand mixture other words treated

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salt to cut down on it. But I mean

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that's really you know sand or straight

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sand you know it's that the the problem

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with you know straight sand is it's a

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more expensive cleanup cost in spring

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you know it gets into the um the sumps

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the sump the catch basin sumps and stuff

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and it causes a lot more deltas in you

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know at at the drainage points but salt

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is equally as bad I mean that gets in

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the lakes prevents it from turning over

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I mean it's you know really bad so but

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yeah you're you don't have much choice I

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mean they they've did try different

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liquid treatments

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with molasses, with beets, different

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stuff like that, you know, and stuff to

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try it. But, uh, you know, um, you know,

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it's nothing beats salt, unfortunately.

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So,

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» Gosh, that's too bad.

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» Well, the gravel roads you put down, uh,

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» Chips. Yeah, that Yeah, that's uh, you

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know, 38, you know, rugged, rough chip

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is what it is. A limestone chip

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» For those slid up live on gravel roads

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» Because a gravel road will freeze on it

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faster than a than a paved road. I mean,

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like we had those little bit of

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raintorms and it hits there and it just

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you got glare ice in a matter of minutes

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and they're terrible. So,

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» Yeah, I've noticed that the city salt

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trucks, they'll put a little patch down,

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then go down like 50 to 100 feet and put

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another one down, then let the cars kind

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of spread it out.

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» Yeah, they're um so in the the actual um

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controller itself in the truck, it's

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programmed for lane miles. So you can

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set it so it drops either you can spread

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constantly or you can set it up for the

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staggered drop you know stuff like that.

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So um a lot of the guys just do the you

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know depend on where it's at and let it

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go through and intersections of course

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we can hit the blast if we want to do

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more but you know all the trucks are

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calibrated every every season beforehand

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so we keep the right amount of salts

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going down. We don't want to try to over

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apply or you know or underapply. So and

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then we do pre-treat our salt. We take

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our same um chemical that we use for

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dust abatement. We actually water it

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down because it's a little bit too

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thick. We add water to it and then we

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add that to our tanks and that sprays

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onto the salt. So what happens is that

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salt starts to break down faster. So it

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actually starts working faster on the

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roads.

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» So that's why you see the side tanks or

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the tank in the back of these trucks.

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It's a brine solution to help the salt

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activate faster. So,

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» But there's there's tons of different uh

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ideas out there and stuff, but uh salt's

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still the still the best thing, you

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know, and so we try to keep it to a

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minimum. The the real culprit are the

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private contractors that are doing

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parking lots and stuff like that just

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because the slipper falls. You ever look

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at a parking lot a few days after a

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storm, they're completely white with

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salt, which is really sad.

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» Is that what they use at the airports?

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Like that scares me.

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» Yeah, I mean they Yeah, I mean the

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airport use a lot of liquid chemical too

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though. Um they use a lot of calcium or

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mag chloride to help break it down

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faster. So but a lot of that stuff too I

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think is in a containment area too that

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they you know where they stuff I'm

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assuming it would be in a containment

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area so that it's not just going into

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the environment that it comes back and

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stuff. So

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» But

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thank you.

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» Well with that do I have a motion to

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close the meeting?

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» So moved.

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» I second that. All in favor?

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[laughter and clears throat]

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» I

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» I

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» Oppose.

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No, I guess not. That's an easy one.

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All right.