1 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:54,070 I will now call this special council meeting for April 29th, 25th to order. We'll begin by acknowledging that the city of Marimouschie is situated in Magmahee, the ancestral and on-seated territory of the Magmah people. This territory is covered by the treaties of peace and friendship, first signed with the British Crown in 1726. The treaties did not deal with surrender of lands and resources, but in fact recognized an ongoing relationship between nations. We are all treaty people. 2 00:02:55,970 --> 00:03:00,470 And with that, I will call the meeting to order and ask the clerk to please record the 3 00:03:00,470 --> 00:03:00,950 attendance. 4 00:03:02,610 --> 00:03:08,030 And I'll note in the recording of the attendance that this is the first official formal meeting 5 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:09,110 for our two new members. 6 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:13,870 So welcome one part time to Councillor Doyle and Councillor Rishardt. 7 00:03:14,370 --> 00:03:16,370 Now it's the real deal. 8 00:03:17,570 --> 00:03:21,410 So I'll ask for our motions to approve the agenda, please. 9 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:27,310 a Deputy Mayor Quinn, seconded by Councillor Arseneau. On the question, all those in favor? 10 00:03:27,790 --> 00:03:32,510 Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Are there any conflicts of interest this evening? 11 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:43,150 Seeing none, we'll move into our agenda, the management reports. The first item is 5A regarding 12 00:03:43,150 --> 00:03:46,110 the potential closure of a portion of Howard Street, Deputy Mayor Quinn. 13 00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:59,650 Thank you, Your Worship. I would move that Council proceed with option B is set out in management reports ENG-2025-09. 14 00:04:00,270 --> 00:04:04,810 Just to clarify, Council, I believe that the letters have been changed to numbers. 15 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:05,710 Oh, I'm sorry. 16 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:08,910 So are you seeking to proceed with option two? 17 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:12,990 Correct. Sorry, I will apologize for that. I'll do it again. 18 00:04:12,990 --> 00:04:21,130 The council proceed with option number two, set out and manage to report ENG-2025-09 and I apologize, my bet. 19 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:24,370 Thank you, seconded by Councillor King on the question. 20 00:04:25,190 --> 00:04:26,450 That Councillor DiPlacee. 21 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:34,140 I'll be speaking in favor of the motion that Deputy Mayor Quinn had made. 22 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:42,700 I will, I know that the option two had gone through a pretty significant revision from what's been made public. 23 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:53,540 and I'd ask through the chair if Director Bognium could perhaps run through the revisions that were made for the design on keeping the road open. 24 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,640 I hope so, other. 25 00:04:57,140 --> 00:05:00,120 Through the chair to Councillor Diplizio. Thank you. 26 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:10,880 So in a previous discussion, I was asked to discuss some traffic safety calming measures with our consultant and then also look internally at some of the other options that we've used in the past. 27 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,220 if the Howard Street were to remain open with the park. 28 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:24,040 So the options that we received from our consultant, based on the recommendations, which are based on traffic volume counts and a few other things. 29 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,540 They understood the set up of the park and what our intent was. 30 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:34,700 So there are two recommendations include reduce the street width from 8 meters to 7 meters between Stanley and Henderson to slow some traffic down. 31 00:05:34,820 --> 00:05:38,960 And also to add three raised crosswalks, one being at Stanley, one at Henderson. 32 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:52,560 and then one being in the, I guess, the middle of those two streets, which will provide access from the parking lot into the other side of the park where I do agree with those recommendations in the spirit of public safety, I believe more would be necessary. 33 00:05:53,100 --> 00:06:04,040 So there are a few other recommendations on top of that that we have provided, one being reduced to speed from 50 kilometers an hour into 30, similar to a school zone just to add another level of safety. 34 00:06:04,940 --> 00:06:08,280 at two speed reduction warning signs, which you do see in school zones. 35 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:11,480 They flash a traffic on coming, just to remind them of the speed changes. 36 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,740 And if the speed wouldn't be reduced, I would still recommend to have those up just your 37 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:18,580 mind traffic of a 50 kilometer per hour zone. 38 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:24,700 And then finally, a pedestrian crossing signal in the middle, not for all three race crosswalks, 39 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,540 but for the one from the parking lot that accesses the park, which allows another level of safety for 40 00:06:29,540 --> 00:06:36,640 anybody looking to get from me this out of the park to have some flashing lights, which is another reminder for vehicles to slow down when people are trying to use that. 41 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,160 So those were the five recommendations F this week, which remain open. 42 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Thank you for that, just to clarify, in the kind of analysis of that, I think it was 300 cars per day at status quo. 43 00:06:53,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Would we suspect there would be kind of reduction in traffic with those changes? 44 00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:09,600 Yes, when I initially had the traffic impact statement done, they kept a very conservative 45 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,020 approach with the 300 vehicles. 46 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,840 I know we counted and they counted and were very similar in our results. 47 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,300 Basically, how they explained it to me is when a street is, well, I guess this would 48 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:25,400 be open, but even still with the speed reductions, we'd expect some traffic behavior to avoid 49 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,100 the area altogether because they don't want to slow down. 50 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:33,080 So I would suspect that number would drop, in either case whether it was closed or open with some safety measures in place. 51 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:46,820 And that in itself would lay another layer of, there's an assumption there, but another layer of safety with the reduction in traffic as well. 52 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Appreciate that. 53 00:07:48,980 --> 00:07:58,660 Another element to why I will be supporting this is the, this was one of the first projects like this that I remember going out for a pretty genuine consultation. 54 00:07:58,660 --> 00:08:28,640 I credit the staff, I credit the communications department for going through that process, and it was Pulsum, it was educational, and I think through a consultation we have to be considerate to what we heard and what we heard from the community was that the majority from what I perceived wanted to stay open, so I think it's a it's a good result not only for the road and the safety and the risk level being mitigated, but also the consultation process that I think we, you know, 55 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:35,280 I know we want to show a sense of respect and reward the community for engaging respectfully in that process. 56 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:38,740 So I will be supporting the motion as presented. 57 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:39,180 Thank you. 58 00:08:40,660 --> 00:08:42,600 Thank you, Councillor, W. Mayor Quinn. 59 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:43,540 Yeah, thank you, Worship. 60 00:08:43,540 --> 00:08:47,440 I think by virtue of having made the motion, I'm going to speak obviously in support of. 61 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:55,680 I'm going to say pretty much the same thing as Councillor Boise just said, comfortable with the levels of safety, both those recommended from outside of our building and those from Director Buckingham, 62 00:08:55,680 --> 00:09:00,060 be three additions to Councilor Deplacy's point, the assumption that folks will avoid it, 63 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:05,820 so as to not slow down, therefore reducing the traffic and to Councilor Deplacy's point 64 00:09:05,820 --> 00:09:13,060 the perfect combination of community engagement and safety measures here, so I will obviously 65 00:09:13,060 --> 00:09:16,680 speak in support of option number two as outlined here. 66 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,920 And with all the respect to Director Buckingham, a great idea to see, or I appreciate the great 67 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,380 is that you do present to us so this is not so as to discourage and keep those coming 68 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:30,620 and we'll deal with them in due course. Thank you. 69 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Thank you, Deputy Mayor Councillor King. 70 00:09:35,620 --> 00:09:38,420 Oh, just put the light on their Councillor. 71 00:09:42,670 --> 00:09:43,010 What's that? 72 00:09:45,650 --> 00:10:01,330 You got me all freaked out there. Anyway, I'm in favor of this motion that I can 73 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:18,910 I would have to confer with the traffic engineer on this, they weren't full detail wasn't given in this option, so I would have to give back to you on that. 74 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:22,070 Thank 75 00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:29,520 you very much. 76 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,620 Matt, why did you take another meter out the side of the road? 77 00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:38,570 Through the chair of the Councillor King. 78 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:41,670 So that was one of the recommendations provided by the traffic engineer. 79 00:10:41,970 --> 00:10:48,630 That is a method they use when drivers see a road become more narrow. 80 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:50,370 It's a general behavior to slow down. 81 00:10:50,990 --> 00:10:52,430 So that's where that option came from. 82 00:10:55,420 --> 00:10:56,820 Thanks for the work you did on it. 83 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,500 Thank you, Councillor King. 84 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:00,260 Councillor Harris. 85 00:11:02,910 --> 00:11:04,530 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 86 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:10,450 Um, I guess first, I guess I just want to go back to the night that this was that we had 87 00:11:10,450 --> 00:11:16,270 the, the Southern family, I guess, come in into Council after quite a hoopla, I guess before 88 00:11:16,270 --> 00:11:16,770 they spoke. 89 00:11:17,170 --> 00:11:21,710 And I just want to thank them for how, uh, how polite and how well you did address Council 90 00:11:21,710 --> 00:11:27,590 and, uh, you know, that does go a long ways and, uh, I, you know, from myself to you guys and 91 00:11:27,590 --> 00:11:27,990 your family. 92 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:31,970 Thank you for doing that because that, and I think we all kind of needed that after what kind 93 00:11:31,970 --> 00:11:33,510 of went on and what the Mary had to put up with. 94 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:35,170 So, I appreciate that. 95 00:11:36,030 --> 00:11:39,270 For the Howard Street Closure, I mean, I appreciate the staff 96 00:11:39,270 --> 00:11:41,910 bringing the recommendation, they did a great job, 97 00:11:43,050 --> 00:11:45,170 did go up for public consultation, you know, 98 00:11:45,310 --> 00:11:47,710 that's why I guess Council does go up for public consultation 99 00:11:47,710 --> 00:11:50,330 to see what's going to work in their neighborhood. 100 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:54,610 And it wasn't here last week, but did get some updates on 101 00:11:54,610 --> 00:11:56,850 what Director Buckham was bringing back 102 00:11:56,850 --> 00:12:00,690 and did talk to a father in that area with three kids. 103 00:12:00,690 --> 00:12:05,470 and you know it seems that safety is a top priority for everybody and that's a 104 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:09,230 top priority for us around this council so it's something that with the price 105 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:13,770 difference it's nothing really even to concern ourselves with so I will be 106 00:12:13,770 --> 00:12:16,850 supporting this motion tonight but my biggest concern I was just to thank the 107 00:12:16,850 --> 00:12:19,550 some of the family for how they present themselves at night and I went a long ways 108 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:26,330 with with me around this table. Thank you councillor councillor Arsano thank you 109 00:12:26,330 --> 00:12:29,270 I'm actually really appreciated this whole process. 110 00:12:31,270 --> 00:12:37,070 Director Buckingham surprised me when he first presented the initial recommendation around 111 00:12:37,070 --> 00:12:43,890 the road closure, but I actually enjoyed that process of you looking at it from a different 112 00:12:43,890 --> 00:12:48,370 perspective and making us look at it from a different perspective and then getting to engage 113 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:52,650 with people and get their ideas and all of that. 114 00:12:52,650 --> 00:13:03,510 So, you know, although I really do enjoy the thought of the road closing and having the kids being able to wander freely, I did hear everybody. 115 00:13:04,490 --> 00:13:11,430 Both that night and since. And we'll be supporting as well to keep the road open. 116 00:13:12,070 --> 00:13:12,330 Thank you. 117 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Thanks, everyone. Not to be labored, I'll speak quickly to you. 118 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:21,340 You know, I do think as the counselors have said, it's a lesson in good process 119 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,900 And it has been from a start like I'll remind everyone that the design for the park is based on public consultation 120 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:35,020 It's across from a youth park that was designed by the communities youth. These are the two parks. We're going to be connecting 121 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,280 The community the neighborhood which is I mean people will know my neighborhood 122 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Councillor Placey's neighbourhood as well, everyone was very polite, genuinely engaged in that seeking information and sharing thoughts respectfully, and ultimately the option that it looks like we're going to be choosing tonight is better for it. 123 00:13:54,300 --> 00:14:04,720 There are more safety enhancements I want to note that the safety enhancements or components of this are actually exceeding what was recommended by the outside consultants. 124 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:16,940 It's above and beyond on the safety for busy summer days and boys at busy down there, but also for the rest of the year, the community clearly will continue to have that through fair. 125 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:32,860 So to me, it's a great process and a win-win, and I'm terribly excited to see the improvements this year, and then the splash pad coming to life and the future housing as well, really just completely renewing and transforming this area, which is really close to one of our downtowns too. 126 00:14:32,860 --> 00:14:36,520 So it's good for the community. It's good for local businesses. It's good for everyone. 127 00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:43,990 Sing nothing further. I'll call the vote. All those in favor? I opposed? 128 00:14:45,090 --> 00:14:45,750 Motion carries 129 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:55,130 Next we move to and by the way, there are images of the enhanced option that's been just selected and maybe I'd ask that 130 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:59,970 Director Buckingham can work with Ms. Harding to get those circulated to so the community will now 131 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:30,440 So, what this is going to look like. Next is a motion regarding the asphalt patching program, Councillor Harris. Thank you, Worship. I move the 10.25 as usual, 9.30, ma'am, machine, municipal patching program, be awarded to by construction, pay the limited at a cost of $325 per ton, $325 for hand-laid material, HST included, $245 per ton, $245 for machine-laid material, HST included. Night repairs, if required, in the King George Highway, hand-laid at a cost of $30 per 132 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,620 $350 per ton and machine-layed the cost of $300 per ton, HST included. 133 00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:37,780 Thank you. 134 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:47,800 I'll look for a second or on the motion, Councillor Summers, on the question, all those in favour? 135 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,540 I opposed, motion carries. 136 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:55,920 Next is a motion regarding public work's materials supply and equipment rental rates. 137 00:15:56,700 --> 00:15:57,380 Councillor Doyle. 138 00:15:57,380 --> 00:15:58,360 I 139 00:16:02,300 --> 00:16:22,220 move that tender number two five-zero-one-nine-city-of-mare machine municipal patching program be awarded to by construction and paving limited at a cost of $325 per tonne for hand-laid material HST included and $245 per tonne for machine-laid material HST included. 140 00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:28,040 it. Night repairs, if required, and King George Highway hand laid at a cost of $350 per 141 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,340 ton, and machine laid at a cost of $300 per ton, HST included. 142 00:16:36,340 --> 00:16:38,840 Sorry, just being flagged by the click, there was a statement. 143 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,980 That was a one-shit, not in what you did, but in. 144 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:45,640 Okay, sorry, do you want me to start all over because I'd like to. 145 00:16:51,940 --> 00:17:01,840 I move that 10, 2, 5, 0, 2, 5, materials and equipment for public works department be awarded to the low bidder for the following HST extra. 146 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:10,160 250 cubic yards, 40 millimeter crushed gravel, North Shore construction, and it cost of $5,937.50. 147 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:17,060 three hundred cubic yards of three quarter and screened stone north shore construction at $7,500 and 148 00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:21,960 2,000 cubic yards of winter sand north shore construction $37,500 149 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,900 Excavator brush cutter mulching head Delaway construction Delabay enterprise at $144 per hour 150 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:35,400 Small crawler tractor by construction and paving $105 per hour. 151 00:17:38,330 --> 00:17:41,410 Okay. Thank you seconded by Councillor Somers 152 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:42,990 on the question. 153 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:48,630 Oh, Councillor Doe, do you want to speak on the motion? No. No. Okay. 154 00:17:49,290 --> 00:17:53,430 All those in favour? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. 155 00:17:56,710 --> 00:18:00,230 Now there's another motion. I guess there are three motions here. 156 00:18:02,450 --> 00:18:03,630 I know you're implicated 157 00:18:03,630 --> 00:18:07,090 in the first motion Councillor Rechar, but I do want to give you a chance to do one, too, 158 00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:10,310 if you'd like. I think it's okay that he makes it even though he's referenced. Yeah, so 159 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:11,510 So, would you like to make the motion? 160 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:18,770 Motion, MAN 225, the appointment of the External Board, Commission and 161 00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:27,450 Internal Committees, to put forward a motion that the following members of Council will be appointed non-voting city representatives on the organization's listed. 162 00:18:28,610 --> 00:18:38,150 Myself on the Mary-Marcee Regional Multicultural Association, Beaverbrook House, Councilor Peggy Doyle, W.S. 163 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:43,690 That's Logan House, also Councillor Peggy Doyle. Potential motion that Mayor Adam Lourgey- 164 00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:48,630 Well, that's it, so we'll just do one at a time there, so yeah, so that's gone the question 165 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:49,270 for this one. 166 00:18:51,450 --> 00:18:54,790 And this thing, nothing, I'll call the vote, I'll vote. Oh, second or sorry. 167 00:18:56,030 --> 00:19:01,610 It's me, it is, it is my, it is my first night also, yes. Second, my Councillor Harris, on 168 00:19:01,610 --> 00:19:06,910 the question, I guess just for reference to the public, there are a number of organizations 169 00:19:06,910 --> 00:19:26,330 that we appoint Councillors 2 across the community, typically often it goes hand in hand if we make financial contributions to those organizations, they're not voting members and we're renewing and replacing some of our appointees so the new Councillors, like the rest of us, we'll have some of those appointments in the community. 170 00:19:27,330 --> 00:19:29,050 Seeing nothing further, I'll call the vote. 171 00:19:29,170 --> 00:19:29,770 All those in favor? 172 00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:30,590 Aye. 173 00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:31,630 Opposed? 174 00:19:31,890 --> 00:19:32,590 Motion carries. 175 00:19:33,550 --> 00:19:36,710 And, Councillor, if you'd like to do the second motion, now we'll take that. 176 00:19:37,150 --> 00:19:37,430 Sure. 177 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:42,510 Is there a potential motion that Mayor Adam Lorton be appointed to? 178 00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:45,570 City representative in the Mayor and Machine Transit Commission? 179 00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:48,170 Yes. 180 00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:48,710 That's great. 181 00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:50,110 Thank you. 182 00:19:50,290 --> 00:19:54,310 Seconded by Deputy Mayor Quinn, also just a bit of a cleanup because Councillor Summers 183 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:59,130 was shuffled out of that role into another one, but this one fell off the list somehow, so 184 00:19:59,670 --> 00:20:01,130 that's why we brought this one forward. 185 00:20:01,690 --> 00:20:04,870 Seeing nothing else on the question, all those in favour? 186 00:20:05,790 --> 00:20:05,970 Aye. 187 00:20:06,510 --> 00:20:06,950 Opposed? 188 00:20:07,330 --> 00:20:08,010 Motion carries. 189 00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:11,570 And the third motion is regarding our internal standing committees. 190 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:14,970 Councillor, you want to tackle that one too? 191 00:20:15,290 --> 00:20:16,050 Complete the set? 192 00:20:16,050 --> 00:20:24,870 that? Sure, yeah. So I'll put for a motion for Public Safety and Environment Committee 193 00:20:25,850 --> 00:20:30,250 to- Which is actually that for all of the committees, so for all of the committees. 194 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:34,470 That the membership of council's standing committees be as follows. 195 00:20:34,990 --> 00:20:39,850 Okay, that the membership of the committee stands as follows. On the Public Safety and Environment 196 00:20:39,850 --> 00:20:46,010 Committee, Mayor Adam Lorden, Councillor Brian King, Mr. Chair, Councillor Peggy Doyle 197 00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:58,310 as Vice-Chair, Councillor Vierran Eersono, and Councillor Gyrochard, myself, on the Social and Economic Development Standing Committee, Mr. Mayor Adam Lorden, 198 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:08,510 Councillor Ryan Summers as Chair, Councillor Gyrochard, myself as Vice-Chair, Deputy Mayor Patty Quinn, and Councillor Chad DePlaisey. 199 00:21:09,530 --> 00:21:15,690 As it comes to the Corporate Services and Planning and Standing Committee, Mr. Mayor Adam 200 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:21,810 Lorton, Councillor Verna-Arsono as Chair, Councillor Jason Harris, Vice Chair, Councillor 201 00:21:21,810 --> 00:21:29,030 Ryan Summers, Councillor Peggy Doyle, and for our last committee, the Community Service 202 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:37,190 Standing Committee, Mayor Adam Lorton, Councillor Chad DePlace as Chair, Deputy Mayor Patty Quinn 203 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:42,950 then is vice chair, Councillor Jason Harris, Councillor Branking. So before the motion 204 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:46,130 to prove that. Yes, thank you. I'll look for a seconder. 205 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:52,310 Councillor DePlacey. And on the question, Councillor DePlacey. 206 00:21:52,610 --> 00:21:56,870 I just want to thank the two Councillors for reading their first motions and Councillor 207 00:21:56,870 --> 00:22:00,110 Rishore for reading all three and I think that's probably the toughest hat trick you've ever 208 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:00,350 scored. 209 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,320 There you go. 210 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,220 I'll set 211 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:09,200 them up for that one. 212 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,680 I'm thinking of having further, I'll call the vote. 213 00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:13,360 All those in favour? 214 00:22:13,860 --> 00:22:14,320 Aye. 215 00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:15,240 Opposed? 216 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,280 Motion carries. 217 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:22,460 And now we'll ask for a motion to adjourn this meeting. 218 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,700 Please, Councillor Arson, a seconded by Councillor Doyle on the question. 219 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:28,160 All those in favour? 220 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,120 Aye. 221 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,140 Opposed? 222 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Motion carries. 223 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:39,540 So, the special council meeting is adjourned and will immediately call to order at 6.25 p.m. 224 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:43,380 Our council in committee meeting for April 29th, 2025. 225 00:22:43,780 --> 00:22:49,700 So we do have a couple of items on the public agenda and then a couple more on the committee 226 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:54,540 of the whole agenda, start by asking the clerk to record the attendance and ask for a motion 227 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:55,840 to approve the agenda. 228 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:03,980 Deputy Mayor Quinn, seconded by Councillor Summers on the question, all those in favor? 229 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:04,920 Aye. 230 00:23:05,460 --> 00:23:05,660 Opposed? 231 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:06,820 Motion carries. 232 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Are there any conflicts of interest this evening? 233 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:12,540 Seeing none, we'll move into our items. 234 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:19,500 The first is amendments to the City of Mayor Machine Municipal Plan and Zoning By-law. 235 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,740 I guess is that over to you, Mr. Mitt. 236 00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:25,760 Oh, it's a director McIntyre to tee that one up. 237 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,120 Thank you, Mayor Lorton and members of council. 238 00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:36,760 In front of you have a manager report, a draft manager report, and I'm seeking if there's 239 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:42,680 any additional information that you require in order to make a decision on this, to begin 240 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,380 this process. 241 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:49,640 So as you'll see, we receive correspondence from Justin Forbes, the director of planning 242 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,320 for the Greater Mammarishi Regional Service Commission, and in that correspondence the 243 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Greater Mammarishi Regional Service Commission requires correspondence from the city of 244 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,580 Mammarishi in order to begin any rezoning process they need basically authorization. 245 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:11,940 So this man's report is to request council to begin that process. 246 00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:18,440 As you'll see there's eight recommendations, two of them related to our Housing Accelerator 247 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,920 fund application which was approved and with course conditions and we need to start the process 248 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:33,380 to see if the initiatives that have been listed there will be adopted by council in order 249 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:39,380 for us to receive future year funding. Two of those initiatives are the four units 250 00:24:39,380 --> 00:24:44,740 as a right and the second one is modifications to the regional commercial zone which council 251 00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:49,040 Council has already approved, but we have not began the process yet because we are waiting 252 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,800 for our half application to be considered. So those are two of the six. The other ones 253 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:02,400 I would consider more housekeeping things and initiatives that will improve, I guess, 254 00:25:02,540 --> 00:25:08,000 reduce some red tape as it relates to housing developments in our community. And I'm just 255 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,160 seeking if there's any other information that Council may require prior to bringing this 256 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,340 back to regular council for a decision. 257 00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,400 Thanks, Councillor Arseneau. 258 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:21,300 Thank you. 259 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,500 Thank you for this. 260 00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:25,120 Just for a point of clarity, I guess. 261 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:33,920 So right now those two conditions, we're going to start the process to have the discussions 262 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,400 around them and see what direction we want to take for those two plus the other six. 263 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,280 Through the chair to Councillor Arseneau, that is correct. 264 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,620 Nothing has been done yet. 265 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:54,140 This is the first step in beginning that process, having those discussions, having those 266 00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:59,880 public sessions in order to determine whether council wants the two that relate specifically 267 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:06,560 to the half, which is the housing accelerator fund, and then the other six are again are 268 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:17,160 are things that are being recommended by the Affordable Housing Committee that is set up by Council, also by planning services staff, but yes, this is step one. 269 00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:26,020 Because there are adjustments to the building by-law, they all require broad public notification, including the housekeeping ones. 270 00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:32,320 So the idea is we have to go through the process for the two half items, so let's put everything together 271 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,800 So we don't, you know, have to do a whole citywide process again in three months for six cleanup items 272 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:46,060 That's just but you don't we don't have to approve them all or none like we can within the eight as we go through the process 273 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:51,440 Just you know choose to do some and and not others or all or none or or whatever 274 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,600 Yeah 275 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,440 Councillor Deplacey 276 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Just on the half and specifically the four units as of right we don't like with the new federal government coming in we don't anticipate any changes to or we've signed an agreement already and we're bound to it or I just I don't know where you probably yeah, I'll I get 277 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:19,800 to take this one so I mean the federal liberals ran on a platform of keeping the housing accelerator program and enhancing it. 278 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,080 So, and we have a contractual legal agreement already signed with them for over $3 million 279 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,000 of funding in order to, you know, access that funding. 280 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:38,380 One of the conditions on their end is to do a four as a right zone for service areas 281 00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:39,160 of the community. 282 00:27:39,820 --> 00:27:44,700 I know other communities across the country have gone through this and we've taken some lessons 283 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:46,000 from how they've done it. 284 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:53,260 so it can actually be done in ways that are minimally disruptive and we already allow three 285 00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:59,160 as a right in most areas of the community but that work will be further defined in terms of exactly 286 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,680 how we would propose it if the process is initiated because that will be go that will go through 287 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,900 the planning services as well as the Affordable Housing Committee will bring back a recommendation 288 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:15,800 for how that should look to the council as part of the process, and for public review as well. 289 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:27,640 So you said that the city signed an agreement already with the city if we did do the four residential units as a right. 290 00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:32,520 So what if the community doesn't want it? 291 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:34,920 What if council doesn't want it? 292 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,660 We just what we signed an agreement, are we bound to that agreement? 293 00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:46,540 Well, it's one of the eight items that we have said we would do an exchange for the money. 294 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,720 So how it typically has worked in all the communities is you sign the contract. 295 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:58,360 Then you'll have to go through the by-law review and ultimately, yes, if we decide not 296 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:05,700 to pursue it in any form, then it would be declining to receive the $3 million federal funding. 297 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:09,460 So that means you take the 8 out of 8 or you can take 7 out of 8. 298 00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:19,640 You do, you must do some element of all 8 and like we got to choose many of the 8 we built 299 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,900 them ourselves which will all come back in detail to the council for review and approval still. 300 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,880 But that is one of their hard line conditions. Yeah, so that's why at the manager's recommendation 301 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:43,920 We've got to proceed with this republic by-law process because we won't spend, start spending any money on any of the items until we know that we're committed to this. 302 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:48,300 Because in other communities that have decided against it, they had to give the money back. 303 00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:51,740 Okay, so it's possible that you give the money back then. 304 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:59,580 Yeah, we haven't, we have the first year of money already on hand, but we won't spend any. 305 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,600 Until we know that work, this is the only one that requires a public process. The rest will just come through council votes. Can I ask one more question? Of course. When you're doing public consultation, is it done here or is it done and say we used to do them when we're doing the municipal plan? It was done at the Kins Center, so more people could be involved and more people could speak on it. Is that what we're planning on doing? Are we doing it here? I don't think it's been defined yet. I give that one to the clerk, but part of this motion, 306 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,540 will be to initiate the process, including coming up with the proposed structure of the public engagement. 307 00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:45,580 Yeah, and I think that in the past, when we've done these things to your point, if we expect bigger engagement, we will go off-site so that the venue can accommodate. 308 00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:49,880 That comes, Laura Sharer. 309 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:58,640 Mr. Mayor, I have a question regarding if the council did decide to give the funds back, and other in some other cities. 310 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:05,620 There was a ruling that, if they opt out of the program that they could be opting out of future funds given by the government. 311 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:17,180 With their size of our community or the population here would be forfitting the option to apply for additional funds in the future. 312 00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:32,700 Let someone else speak to this if they want to, but at this point it's a maybe, like right now we'll go through this process and the $3 million of housing accelerator money is directly correlated to the decision that we'll make. 313 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:46,460 Outside of that like additional future like federal provincial infrastructure funding programs are currently in the process of being finalized and that there are elements within those programs. 314 00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:51,000 programs that either strongly encourage or require you to have this. 315 00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:55,000 So this is another one of those things where now that the federal election dust is settling, 316 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,420 like actually both the Liberals and the Conservatives were aligned in different ways, 317 00:32:00,620 --> 00:32:06,700 making us do that, and so the final program has not been signed yet. 318 00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:12,220 That's going to be the six or seven year Chiff funding program that will allocate 319 00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:18,120 state, most of the federal provincial infrastructure money over the next six or seven years, although 320 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:25,000 in that program we may be on the bubble because there was a population threshold that they 321 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,260 were considering that you may have to do the four as a right only if you were above, might 322 00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:36,620 have been 25,000. So we're kind of on the bubble in that regard, but there's no ink dry on 323 00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:40,880 any other programs, but they are heading in that direction. It's clear that federal governments 324 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,960 and both of the parties agree that they want to see these types of developer friendly processes put in place so 325 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,040 that they don't have to come and rezone for those types of housing developments. 326 00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:54,860 Sorry if that's. 327 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:06,260 But I guess tonight it's sort of just here I guess to ask about additional information or to vote to send 328 00:33:06,260 --> 00:33:11,900 it up if we would so that we'll vote on it at the next regular special meeting to officially start 329 00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:16,020 that process, then there'll be more details brought back to council because there's going 330 00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:20,460 to have to be details of some of these six items, including the four as a right, like how 331 00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:26,380 are we going to present that, and also then defining what the public process will be and 332 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:31,220 all that will come back to council for a review before it's actually started at Councillor 333 00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:31,520 your place. 334 00:33:31,780 --> 00:33:35,700 I would make a motion to move it up to the next level of council. 335 00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:36,220 Perfect. 336 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,340 Thank you, seconded by Councillor Arseneau. 337 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,920 On the question, all those in favour? 338 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,820 Aye. 339 00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:42,920 Opposed? 340 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:44,000 Motion carries. 341 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:45,880 Great. 342 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:54,220 Next is a motion regarding a tender or a ton of motion, but it's an item on a tender for bus purchase. 343 00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:56,780 This is probably back over to you, Director McTavish. 344 00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:57,460 I would imagine. 345 00:33:58,260 --> 00:33:58,500 Yes. 346 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,020 Thank you, Mayor Lourden. 347 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:09,240 So again, in front of you have a draft banter report for the results of our tender for our 24 passenger transit vehicle. 348 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:38,460 For the past, this is our 5th tender for these buses, so we received some funding through the integrated bilateral agreement, which is a federal program ministered through the province of Brunswick, which at the time provided us with a 40% of what a 2021 bus cost as you can imagine prices have gone up and everything from groceries to gas and it hasn't buses haven't been left alone either. 349 00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:43,060 So when we first started this program, we were estimating the cost of a bus that 350 00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:44,380 around $110,000. 351 00:34:44,660 --> 00:34:49,600 And as you can see from our tender results in just four years, they've escalated almost 352 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,060 to double. 353 00:34:50,860 --> 00:34:57,520 So when we increased our budget this year based on the prices last year, and we were still 354 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,560 – I was quite shocked when I seen the prices this year, but I do understand there's probably 355 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,980 some tariffs that are taking place here too, because some of those parts and components 356 00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:09,020 would be shipped from the United States. 357 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,900 However, we did reach out to the Regional Development Corporation and 358 00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:21,800 our IBA program allows us to receive a maximum of 40% of the eligible costs. 359 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:26,920 And when we did the math and we reached out, they agree that we can 360 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:32,520 access additional funding through the IBA, but the consequence of that will be that 361 00:35:33,120 --> 00:36:02,220 And the final year, we may not have a lot of money left for the purchase of that bus if we tap into that but as you'll see in my recommendation, I am recommending that we do that for this year to offset the shortfall in the budget versus the tender price and consider either budgeting more next year or there is another program that we applied for or approved for and I'm just waiting on the details of what we can get that so that we might be able to stack those two. 362 00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:31,520 to leave our contribution alone, but receive additional funding from the federal government through the Canadian Public Transit Fund, which again we have been allocated approximately $80,000 a year for the next 10 years under that program, but again it's capped at 40% federal component, but I think we can use one or the other to certainly for our capital needs moving forward. 363 00:36:32,420 --> 00:36:36,320 And again, this is here in case there's any additional information that you require to 364 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,240 make a decision on this. 365 00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:44,080 Yes, so I guess as to be clear, and I'd ask the manager to confirm this, but as a tender 366 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:49,040 item, this will come for a vote, so there's not a matter of sending it up, but it still comes 367 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,040 here to ask if there's any additional information that any member of council would like to have. 368 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,520 And it comes because it's over the cost. 369 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,380 normally they would just go straight to council attendor items. 370 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,120 Councillor Harris. 371 00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:03,820 Thank you Mayor Lord. 372 00:37:04,380 --> 00:37:06,980 Director Gorman, what's the way you want us to go here? 373 00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:16,100 Through the Chair to Council Harris, exactly with what Director McTavish is recommending that 374 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:25,540 we're going to pursue the IBA for additional funding and or the other available funding that's 375 00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:27,660 through transit buses as well. 376 00:37:27,660 --> 00:37:34,700 We'll pursue that first, and if not, we would look at, like I said, there's always a reconciliation 377 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:39,360 at the end of the day with all the capital projects where there's surpluses in some capital 378 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,880 projects, and it's usually enough to offset deficit in another capital project. 379 00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:52,190 Yeah, I mean, from the chair, there's no additional information I appreciate it, and Director 380 00:37:52,190 --> 00:38:00,290 McCabish, I appreciate the approach to, like, while I never liked the idea of dipping in, you 381 00:38:00,290 --> 00:38:05,230 It's just delaying the pain in some ways, because we need to keep replacing these buses. 382 00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:08,390 The transit's a man as increased, and it's reference in your report. 383 00:38:08,610 --> 00:38:10,970 The bridge closure is going to increase demand even more. 384 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:19,830 But knowing that there's another additional fund out there that we could access, it's not 385 00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:25,110 necessarily just robbing next year's money, ideally we'll borrow from it and replace it with 386 00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:26,790 the additional funds that you've identified. 387 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:30,530 So look forward to seeing this come to Council to vote. 388 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,140 No, it's automatic, yeah. 389 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:43,320 Okay, so if no additional information is required then those are the only two public items this evening. 390 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:46,080 So I'll ask for a motion to move to committee the whole. 391 00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:52,260 Please, Deputy Mayor Quinn, seconded by Councillor Arseneau on the question, all those in favor. 392 00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:58,700 I posed, motion carries, so we will say goodbye to the live stream and move to committee the whole. 393 00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:25,890 But you know what? I think almost all of them have been under this year by my count so far, other than this one.