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All right, before we actually call the meeting to order, I'd like to acknowledge that our meeting this evening is being held on the unceded ancestral and shared territories of the Stullo people. Our municipality is on the Quantlin, the Camel, Matt, Squee, and Scallots territories. And in particular, it's nice to be able to talk about this this evening in the wake of our pow out. And because we'll be talking about the creators game tonight as well, so a couple of nice connections to indigeneity. So with that, I'll call the meeting to order and ask for

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a motion to adopt the agenda with the late item that will be under Part 8 and move B number D.

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Okay, move Councillor Plexa, seconded by Councillor Crawford. Any other changes? All those in favor?

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Opposed? It's carried. Thank you very much. We begin this evening, as I said a moment ago, with the delegation,

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Mission Minor LaCrosse Club. We have lots of them from the club here tonight, and thank you for coming.

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But our speakers tonight specifically are, I guess, Carrie Dunnett and Nicole Cacosco.

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You guys, oh, well, okay, well, all come up, introduce yourselves.

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We will not stand on ceremony. We'll let you all present.

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The Worship and Council, good evening. My name is Nicole Cacosco, and I, along with Carrie Dunnett and Stu Taylor,

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are here to represent the Mission Minor Lacrosse Club.

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Thank you for giving us this opportunity to present this evening.

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MMLC has been providing lacrosse and mission, sorry I haven't lacrosse my voice.

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Actually, since 1986, the club has seen a steady growth in our numbers, even during

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COVID, and we offer two playing seasons of lacrosse field from September to February

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and box from March until July.

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All clubs face challenges, delivering sports programs.

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One of our main challenges is lack of floor space.

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Prior to the beginning of box season, especially so that we can start our tri-outs and evaluations as many larger communities do, they have facilities to do such things.

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If the growth trend continues in mission, MMLC foresee the lacrosse number to grow by approximately 50 players per year.

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Each season, based on previous numbers, cedar valley infill project alone is projected to see an increase of approximately 15,000 residents.

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with this gross look across will quickly grow its ability to remain an all-inclusive sport and we will have to deny kids the opportunity to play.

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When the Silverdale development comes to fruition for all intents and purposes, the population of mission could double.

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While the development plan will include recreational facilities, a significant portion of developments may have occurred before construction of these facilities.

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One solution for this, oops, I forgot that, here we go.

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One solution for this challenge is to cover the outdoor box or even find the means to

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facilitate a new outdoor box.

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MMLC foresee the outdoor box becoming an integral part of the club's ability to have practices

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and play games and would love the opportunity to explore the option to make the outdoor box

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a facility in which we can play not just practice.

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This option also makes it possible to host concerts, trade shows, markets, and make it possible

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for other sports such as ball hockey to run in a year round setting.

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This would also expand our lacrosse presence as we are not the only lacrosse users.

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We gladly share the floor with the Cedar Kinks and would like to expand this to include

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the Valley Rebels, the junior team that has the rights to missions graduating players.

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As it stands now, 70% of our practices are cancelled of the outdoor box due to weather.

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Unfortunately, we are not able to control this.

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What we can control with the help of community and sponsorship like JBS, the district and

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other user groups, is the altering of this area and or the addition of a new year-round

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dry floor space.

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MMLC would like to see the covered stands, see the area covered, stands, new boards,

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floor size and made to regulation size, as that box is not.

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Heat, change rooms, wash rooms, sound system and clocks to be able to host games.

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We understand that this will not happen overnight, but we are looking for the support to make

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it happen.

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MMLC is proud to have in players play at elite levels of lacrosse with Team BC and Team

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Canada, even move on to the NLL, and in the last five years alone, 10 alumni have received

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lacrosse scholarships to play collegiate lacrosse in the States.

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Mission is even home to the first female to ever play at a junior B1 level.

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Take your it.

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Thank you.

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I'll be to do this.

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Please.

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Now, there's three other communities in the Greater Vancouver area have undertaken similar

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projects to this.

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The first one, and obviously the most expensive being the Coquitlam Forum.

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For those who got familiar with that particular project, it was built on the site of the

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old Chimo Pool.

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Now the old Chimo Pool was demolished and the services left in place to facilitate this

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new structure.

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The cost in 2015 of this particular structure was 3.9 mil, but keep in mind all the prep was done, all the load was done, power, water, sewage, and all the infrastructure were already in place.

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Now the forum, I don't know for those that have been there before, it is used on a constant base by multitude of user groups.

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pickleball, ball hockey, the cross, community events, it's served as a primary

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COVID clinic for the city of Quitlam. So I mean that it's just facility

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that is used constantly. The second comparable being the latest one, the George

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Preston outdoor box. This box is built adjacent to the existing George Preston

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Rec Center. The advantage there, once again, all the infrastructure was already in place.

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They were able to piggyback change rooms, piggyback lighting, power, water requirements.

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Now this particular one, as you can notice, polished concrete floor, which is important for gameplay,

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and for practices. Unfortunately with the asphalt surface, that poses quite a safety concern,

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especially to the younger groups as they're learning. Other advantageers,

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As you can see, LED lighting, score clocks, 32nd clocks, covered stands, he did a true 11-month year facility.

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We all know the township of Langley, their rec facilities, top drawer, predominantly developer funded through developer funded and a lieu of park space.

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The third example would be the West Hill Sports Box at Port Moody.

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Port Moody being the closest comparison to mission in terms of population size.

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The West Hill Box for those of you that are unaware of the area,

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basically built adjacent to the refinery at the foot of Burndy Mountain in Port Moody.

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The box at that particular time went through the rehabilitation,

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very similar to ours at the time, current vintage,

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the same floor, the same board, the same structure of a stance.

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That facility received an upgrade at a cost of in 2012, I want to see off top of head.

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I apologize for not knowing of 1.6 mil.

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$800,000 of that was covered by a grant from the Province of BC, the Ministry of Sports and Culture.

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Once again, this particular space, polished concrete floor, LED lighting, time control

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lighting, similar to what we have the sports park, so the user groups are paying the power

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cost, not the district, and most importantly, locked gate access, remote gate locked access.

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So very similar to the sports park, which in lights on, you get your code, the renting

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a brand new facility, all three boxes, all three different visions for what their particular community wanted.

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Thank you very much.

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Your worshiping council, what we represent mission minor lacrosse, such an updated facility would provide benefit to the entire community.

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One of these many benefits is the ability to host tournaments.

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This would bring a minimum of teams to mission based on two tiers with seven away teams per tier.

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that's 280 families coming to mission they will all gas up they will all go to

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restaurants and some of them will even stay at our hotels think about what we all

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spend when we go away to a tournament even if it's $150 per family which we

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think is kind of low that's $42,000 injected into our community just in one

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weekend the construction alone would be an added benefit to the community as well

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Many, if not all, of this construction can be facilitated right here in mission, from

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the steel to the electrical to the laborers.

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This means keeping our mission families earning while also consuming mission commerce.

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It's a win-win.

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At the cost of real estate rises, more young families are moving to mission and enjoying

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the lifestyle that mission has to offer.

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Part of this lifestyle includes district-provided facilities, recreation, and sports opportunities,

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provided by volunteer groups, such as us.

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The greatest fear of any association is to have to say no to any child or any athlete.

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It is our hope that the support of the council, the community, and sponsors that a new upgraded facility can be constructed and help provide recreational opportunities to all.

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Your worship and council, we thank you for your time, mission lacrosse, acknowledges that it plays on the unceded ancestral lands of the Stolo people.

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Thank you very much, Kerry.

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I will just quickly advise our delegates that Council is actually meeting on July 18.

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That is that correct, Mr. Stewart, to talk capital projects and your timing is good because part

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of the conversation will largely be about what do we need as a growing community around parks and

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recreation facilities.

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So that's where we would likely talk about this in the context of larger, the larger picture of

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facilities, but I wanted to turn to others on council and see if they had any questions

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or comments. Councilor Gild and Councillor Plesson.

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Thank you, Mayor Horn. Thank you so much for the delegates

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for presenting. 74% is that cancelled event? Wow, that's a large number. I think like

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Mayor Horn said, we'll have the discussion on the 18th, but I do support it. I do like

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that you guys present to us with pictures because I think it's important to have a year

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around a year-round facility, but also it serves as a multi-use purpose for entertainment.

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So I appreciate that 100% support this.

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Thank you, Councillor Plesson.

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Thank you and do appreciate the presentation was well done.

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I appreciate the fact that you've outlined two or three other communities have done the

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same thing.

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And I also recognize I think that when you've indicated that more and more families are moving

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into mission as we see, as I see, with grandchildren and more and more kids in the playgrounds.

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So as I grow up, they're going to be looking for these active sports to be participated.

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And I wanted to know, I know that you've indicated that you lose a lot of your time due to the weather.

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And that's unfortunate, there's weather for ever changing and is a problem in this community, like many other communities.

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You do have opportunity to use leads in when it's not used for ice hockey, correct?

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And that's off season, I guess for-

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Yeah, he doesn't start getting removed in the North Arena until third week of March.

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So when our season is supposed to start, usually the second Monday of April,

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we have just gotten in there with the day or two to spare.

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I know what I want to do.

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What typically has happened is that the club has had to rent space in other communities

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and run in the Ag Rec Building in Abbotsford, for example.

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We can't do it, we'll call it.

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Right, and I do, because I know that at one point a number of years ago, we were looking

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to extending the hockey season by couple weeks, which was an overlap with that very

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situation. Do I have a floor time for yourselves? I do support you. I think that it's as indicated, we're going to have this conversation, and certainly I think there's a growing need in our communities, we see more and more young people in the community, but I was going to ask you a question of the camera, it wasn't open, they said track me, but yeah, no, I do appreciate. I think it's important that we continue to move forward. I think our current court, as you said, it's aged in a sense, and it's going back the one you missed important move, same age and structure of time, and so certainly I can see that

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the need to do something more than we've done now, and it's more than time, I think, as

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we're growing population goes forward.

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Thank you.

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I'll just add something to Councillor Plyck as just to clarify.

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Hockey wasn't extended by a couple of weeks.

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It was, in fact, Ms. Nicole and I were both on the board of LaCrosse when Councillor

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Attenham was asked to extend it essentially for almost the entire year, except for one month

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of when it's changed out.

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And that the time before that lacrosse did have access to both the north and south

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arenas, and that has significantly impacted availability.

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So, in fact, as the population has grown, the floor space has diminished.

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And so, that's part of the challenge.

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And so, it is important that hockey and ice users, including figures getting

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and speed skating, are getting a chance to use the ice.

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but the effect is lacrosse uses the floor about two to three months out of the year,

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and that's been diminished for a lot of sufficient reasons.

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Do you want to add something to that?

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I could just make one point that Councillor Gill and Councillor Plessis were both mentioning

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regarding the usage of the space and the rainy conditions.

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I know you're more than aware of your worship, but for those that don't know, lacrosse

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because it's currently an asphalt-based surface, as soon as that water hits it,

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that bitchman creates that very slick surface.

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we're forced to cancel practices just because of the safety issue,

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especially to the younger children.

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One or two raindrops, and that turns into, we must be playing on the south skating rink.

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It's not a legal surface right now for games, whereas the surface that you saw in the three examples would be because it's got a concrete floor. And the boards, the correct dimensions, the facility we have right now is aging to the point where it's dangerous to go out and play with any kind of real contact because if you go and you look there, the seams of the boards really are not safe. You would end up getting splinters and so forth. So it has very limited usage even in good weather.

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right now. It's good for kids and that's about all. Councilor Hamilton.

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Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for your presentation. I'm just looking at your registration numbers

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that you handed out to us. And I probably know the answer, but there's been a bit of a decline.

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And is that due to COVID that you would say that it looks like it's up swing again now?

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Yes. No, the 2020 we couldn't offer a box season at all because nobody was allowed to be inside.

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So we had to offer a field season. And so we had a bit of one in game started later on.

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during that season for a short period.

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but a lot of people have joined other things by that time.

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And then this year, they're back again.

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And as you can well imagine, it's our younger age groups

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that are really growing.

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As the young families start to move to mission

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and embracing what this community has to offer,

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it is those young families that are joining our organization.

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We are talking kids from four years old to ten years old, or the divisions that are really driving our growth right now.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Russell, do we have either of the other two Councillors online now?

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They're here.

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Okay, so perhaps we can take the demons to the presentation of the board, and I can see if they have any questions.

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Councillor Harar, Councillor Davies, sorry that you were having technical difficulties.

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Do you have any questions for our guests?

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I'll go first, I'll get Mark here.

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I'll pass it on to you.

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So yeah, to, to Nicole, when is, is the cross,

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is the cross taught in our public school system at all?

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It is taught by our ex-president, Jeff McCauley,

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at Hatsick Elementary School,

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but it's more of the version of the cross, called inter-cross.

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The hard plastic stick.

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Hard plastic stick, hard plastic ball.

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It's just an introductory way of getting kids

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aware of the game.

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And we have Academy at MSS which doesn't have its own, they're only a junior and

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of junior varsity and senior varsity teams so they have no, there's no area for the younger

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kids at the school level.

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I actually hadn't even thought about the fact that Academy would also be able to use the

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facility, the same way as hockey academy uses the rink during the weekdays.

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Great.

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This is bad.

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Good House of Herard.

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Did that answer your question?

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Yes.

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Thank you so much, Mayor.

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And thank you, Nicole.

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And thanks to your delegation.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Davies, any questions?

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No, no questions.

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I just comment that my kids also played a part of the forum.

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It's a fantastic location, and you really hit off all the things that we need to have.

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This is the floor size, the change rooms, the eat.

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the ability to play all your rounds. So, they're definitely looking forward to discussing this with Council

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budget deliberation time. Thank you.

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Thank you. I guess my final comments would be that like the Poirier Forum, it's not perfect

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when you do it this way. The Poirier Forum, for example, doesn't have showers. It's just

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about everything else, but it's not well suited to the senior guys, because they're sweatier.

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But that's okay, because it takes pressure off the facility. So, I wanted to just point to

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something you said earlier that I thought was good, which is that it doesn't necessarily

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They have to all be built at one time and there's a way of phasing.

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So I think that's a brilliant thing to observe and maybe part of how we look at it from a capital perspective.

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Thank you very, very much.

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We appreciate the delegation.

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I just want to say, take a note to the younger folks that I know, fairly recent graduates of Mission Monitor LaCrosse who are coming back and coaching as well.

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And it genuinely means a lot that some of us older parts are the only ones who do enough.

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So, appreciate that. Thanks so much. Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Congratulations on your- your players are- they're competing. And scholars are coming.

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Really taking off.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So, moving on next to part four proclamations, we do have a proclamation proposed by the Special Olympics

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for Global Week of Inclusion.

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Move to Counselor Plekka, Second Head Counselor Hamilton.

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Comments or questions?

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Seeing that, I'll call the question.

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Those in favor?

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it's carried. Counselors Harar and Davies, I can't see you at the same time as we have the agenda up.

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If you'd like to speak or move, please say your last name so that I know.

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Gentlemen, you're welcome to leave. Thank you. Don't feel like you have to hang around.

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Thank you. So we'll move on then to public hearings. So we have two this evening and I'll begin by

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reading the introductory script. So this public hearing or these public hearings are being convened

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to pursue it to Section 464, the local government act,

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in order to consider proposed bylaws listed

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on tonight's agenda.

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Copies of the relevant staff reports

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and related information,

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respecting the subject amendment bylaws,

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have been available for public examination

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on the City of Mission website

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as part of the public hearing agenda.

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Copies of written submissions for each application

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received by the submission deadline

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have been distributed to members of council

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and are available for public viewing

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on the City of Mission website.

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At this public hearing, all persons who consider their interest in property affected by a proposed

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by-law shall be given an opportunity to be heard on matters contained within the by-law.

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This meeting is being recorded and broadcast live on our website.

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The recording and the written minutes of the meeting will be posted to the city's website.

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Speakers are able to provide comments and ask questions via in-person attendance or by Zoom,

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either by using a webcam and speaker or by phone using the instructions in the Zoom email invitation.

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please know that there is a 45-second delay between the live meeting and the web broadcast.

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I'll be allowing long pauses between speakers to ensure everyone is heard.

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I ask for everyone's patience in this regard.

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Each public hearing item will begin with a brief introduction by a staff member

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followed by a summary of any written submissions received.

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I'll then open the floor to the public.

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and then to participants in the chamber.

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Once acknowledged, each speaker must give their name

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and civic address for the record.

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Each speaker will be allocated five minutes to make comments.

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If a speaker exceeds this amount of time,

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they may be asked to conclude or muted.

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After all others have been heard,

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those that wish to speak for a second time

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will be afforded the opportunity to do so,

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So provided that new information is brought forward.

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Members of Council may ask clarification questions of the person after they have spoken.

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However, the main function of Council members this evening is to listen to the views of the public and not to engage in debate.

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No presentations or submissions will be received by Council on any application after the public hearing for that application has been closed.

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Lastly, when a public hearing for an item has been closed, the public hearing will continue with the next item on the agenda.

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we have two this evening. Council may consider third reading of any of the

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subject bylaws later this evening. All right and with that we'll start off with

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zoning-emending bylaws 6098 just moved it just as I was reading it off the

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screen. 6098-2022-5949 this is for the address 7680 Heard Street and so we'll

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start off with Mr. Pueblo.

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Public hearing is for an application submitted by

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every tech engineering to rezone the property located at 7680 herd street from the urban resident

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until 558 zone to the multi-unit townhouse one zone to allow for a three lot subdivision.

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Property fronts onto herd street and each proposed lot will have access from the existing lane which

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will be upgraded as part of the subdivision requirements.

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Overall, through zoning is consistent with a

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fish community plan and each proposed lot exceeds the minimum requirements that proposed MR1 zone.

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Graph plan of subdivision shows the three lots that are proposed and the and notes the lanes and the upgrades required to both lanes and herd street.

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Sled shows the conceptual elevations of the proposed row houses of note the maximum height for row houses is 11 meters.

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The proposed height of these conceptual drawings is 10.7 meters.

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The conceptual site plan shows in the blue are boxes that show the building envelopes, the green boxes near the rear are the proposed garages, two car garages there, and then still have enough room for a two car parking pad outside the garage.

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And that concludes the presentation.

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Mr. Pueblo, Ms. Russell, can you summarize any correspondence we received on this particular

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by-law?

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No written submissions received, Mayor Horn.

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Thank you very much.

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And so we'll start by asking members of the public who may be attending online if they

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would like to speak on this by-law.

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If so, please use the raise hand function and staff will let us know if you are prepared

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to speak.

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Raise hands, Mayor Horn.

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Thank you.

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And we'll go for the first time to chambers and ask if anybody in chambers wishes to speak

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to this particular item. If so, please approach the microphone, give your name and address,

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and the floor will be yours.

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Being nobody approaching the microphone will go for a second time

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to Ms. Russell. Ms. Russell, is there anybody who's raising their hand online?

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Race dance. Thank you, and again, I'll ask in chambers of anybody wishes to speak to this one.

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Not a lot of people here this evening, so I don't have to wait terribly long. A third and final

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time on this one, Ms. Russell, if you are online and wish to speak to this, this will be your final

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call. Please raise your hand if you'd like to speak to this one.

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Raise your hand.

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And for a third and final time in chambers, is there anybody who would like to speak on this particular

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by-law? Seeing nobody approaching the microphone, I'll declare that this particular

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public hearing is closed and move on to the next one, which will be at, let me get my

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members here. This is for property at 32625 Cherry Avenue in the by-law

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6104-2022-5949, and Mr. Pablo, the floor is yours.

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The public hearing is for an application submitted by D&D Design to rezone the property located at 32625 Cherry Avenue from the suburban 20 zone to the urban residential 465 secondary dwelling zone to facilitate a four lot subdivision with the potential for secondary dwellings on each lot.

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Grant

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property, fronts, cherry avenue, and stokes avenue to the north.

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Proposed zoning to the Urban Compact 465 zone is consistent with the Urban Compact designation in the Affish Community Plan.

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The two proposed loss with front onto stokes and two of the proposed loss with front onto stokes and two with front onto cherry with access being from the extension of the certain lane.

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is the draft plan of subdivision.

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The proposed lots all are exceed.

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The UC 465 secondary dwelling zone, no variance as are being proposed.

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You'll note road dedication requirements along stokes and

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then the continuation of the certain lane.

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That concludes the presentation.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Pablo.

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Ms. Russell, can you summarize any correspondence we received on this one, please?

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The written submissions received.

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Thank you very much and we'll go to the public then.

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Anybody who is online and wishes to speak to the proposed by-law amendment, please use your raise hand function to let our staff know so that you can be asked to speak.

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Race Tans.

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Thank you very much.

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I'll ask here in chambers for the first time if there's anybody who wishes to speak on this matter.

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Seeing nobody come to the microphone, I'll ask for a second time to our corporate officer for the online participants.

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If you wish to speak, please raise your hand.

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Thank you for a second time here in Chambers, is there anybody who wishes to speak on this matter?

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Yes, good day, it's Earl Bavitch, and I guess after subdivision what's the proposed green

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space that's going to be left over, like what's, as a percentage?

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Last staff, Mr. Pueblo, can you address how Parkland or green space will be identified in this

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one?

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Through the subdivision, Parkland requirement would be required as cash in lieu.

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There would be no Parkland dedicated as part of this process.

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Thank you, so the 5% of the value of the application goes into a fund that is used to purchase Park elsewhere.

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Do we know how much, what's the percentage of lawns that be left over after driveways and the building sites?

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Mr. Pueblo, do we have a sense of how much of what percentage of the lot is going to be used?

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Just by the building envelope?

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The maximum lot coverage is dictated by the UC 465 zone and the maximum amount of impermeable surfaces is also dictated in the UC 465 zones.

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I'd have to look them up and off the top of my head.

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There are setbacks and there is a maximum coverage, so it's consistent with the rest of our zoning in the city.

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And so these are fairly customary lots for a Cedar Valley.

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And as you said, they're a little larger than actually is mandated, I would just add.

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So then my comment would be similar to what I, I, I, it's the state most times when I come here, is that I'd rather see taller buildings and I'd rather see more green spaces on every property.

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It's still accommodate the same number of families or even more families.

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We've got to be a little proactive with regards to density and going with higher spaces and more green spaces.

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Again, that's my comment. Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Babbage.

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For a third and final time, is there anybody online who would like to participate?

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This is your last call if you're online.

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Please use the raise hand function if you would like to speak.

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Raise hands.

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For a third and final time here in Chambers, is there anybody from the public that would like

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to speak in person?

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If so, please approach the microphone.

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Seeing nobody approach the microphone, I'll declare this public hearing closed, and we will

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have the opportunity to address these matters later on under the by-law section of the agenda.

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Thank you very much.

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We now need a resolution to resolve into the committee of the whole moved by Councillor Crawford seconded by Councillor Hamilton

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I'll call the question all those in favour

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The post we are now in committee and we'll start off with the verbal item from our manager of social development

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Ms. Hargraves you can sit there if you want to just use the microphone

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Good evening everyone

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I'm here tonight to request council support

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specifically by way of a resolution for our application to a current UBCM grant

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opportunity through the Community Emergency Preparedness Fund. Specifically it's

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called the Extreme Heat Risk Mapping Assessment and Planning Grant. It's in the

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amount of $30,000 and this grant is in partnership with Emergency Social Services

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ESS for three specific deliverables. The first being Extreme Heat Risk Mapping of

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all of mission but with a special focus on our pockets where we have enhanced vulnerability.

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So up until now in mission we typically have five cooling centers that we open during periods

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of extreme heat where we offer cold water and air-conditioned spaces.

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So those are typically the Mission Leisure Center, the Friendship Center, Hope Central, Haven

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and the Hollow and the Mission Library.

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So up until last summer that was close to adequate but we now know we're

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facing very different weather systems and the pressure on municipalities to

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do more has drastically increased from last year. So this grant is newly

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available for municipalities to do just that. So extreme heat risk mapping would

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give us the ability to do some preventative work and literally map out our more

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vulnerable pockets and buildings and spaces in mission.

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The second deliverable is then looking at risk assessments.

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So where are our most concerning pockets and what do we need to do to be preventative around those?

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And our third deliverable would be around the extreme heat response planning.

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So about a month ago, we pulled together what we're calling our interagency extreme heat planning table.

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Made up of first responders, all of our social services admission,

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in Fraser Health, the hospital, to start having those conversations around what are people

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doing, what are they concerned about, and how do we get ahead of this summer, and the

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next heat wave specifically, and what can we do as partners.

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So two of the big partners that have stepped forward, one is Lecamel First Nation, who will

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be submitting this grant in partnership with us, as well as the School of Land Use and Environmental

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mental change at UFV who is looking at working very closely with us in applying for this money.

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So very briefly, that's what this grant would do.

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And that budget would go towards student honorariums, faculty honorariums between all of those partners around continuing this collaborative table with those partners in developing those three deliverables.

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Thank you. So there is a motion on the board for those who have anybody who wishes to make it.

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I guess Councillor Gilles seconded by Councillor Placas, comments or questions? Councillor Gilles.

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Thank you, Mayor Horn. I do fully support it. The question I do have is for the cooling centers, are they currently open now?

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The cooling centers will only open when temperatures hit about 25 to 28 or over.

432
00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:39,280
We are receiving different messages from the provincial government around when to open them versus the federal government, so we will

433
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:44,160
Need to have one temperature going forward. It tends to be around the 28 degree mark

434
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,460
And then absolutely those five areas will be open when we hit those marks

435
00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:55,660
My guess is that will be communicated through our social media our websites and so forth. Okay, thank you

436
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,640
I think through helping agencies as well, like Mash, for example.

437
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,820
Councillor Pelleckis, did you have a comment?

438
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:04,100
Yes, move on.

439
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,340
I'm fully support this, and I guess I would just simply say I'm glad to see our staff are trying to respond.

440
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:14,020
I know these heat events happened last year, but in the pace of government, where you're waiting for grants

441
00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:19,000
and funding opportunities to even be created, it can be difficult to get things done in a timely fashion.

442
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:23,720
So the fact that this is a verbal this evening is because of the fact that we're trying to be agile,

443
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:30,580
And I would anticipate that there will be more of these types of applications in the coming months and years as we try to think ahead.

444
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:39,240
For example, on the question of cooling centers, one of the challenges is that people may have to expose themselves to rather extraordinary heat to get to a cooling center.

445
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:50,540
And given some of the challenges we have with transit, especially through the month of August, as we heard recently from Mr. Ringma, it can be risky to go out, not know if your bus is going to actually come, especially when it's expected.

446
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,440
And also, the fact is as well, and I've spoken with other mayors around the province

447
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,080
about this.

448
00:35:56,420 --> 00:36:00,360
The challenge of a cooling center closing in the evening when it takes most of the evening

449
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,360
and sometimes it doesn't even matter that it's evening for it to get cool enough for people

450
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,880
to go home.

451
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:09,480
And so there are literally needs for us, in some cases, to think of this almost the way we

452
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,980
do with extreme cold, where we're ready to take people overnight.

453
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,940
The final comment I'll make is that this is not just hitting people who we might think

454
00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:19,480
of as an entrenched poverty.

455
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,760
This is helping, this is hitting people who live in typical single-family homes,

456
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:31,020
elders who may not have the resilience to deal with the heat and simply don't have the budget to go out

457
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:35,740
and buy an air-conditioning unit or a heat pump for their home.

458
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,880
So, anticipate that this is the first of many times that we'll be having this conversation.

459
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,120
With that, we'll call the question all those in favor, opposed, it's carried.

460
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,900
Councillors Harrier and Davies, because I can't see you, if you're opposed, please state that

461
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,480
you're opposed so that I can take note of the vote. Otherwise, I will assume that you're

462
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,600
voting with, uh, voting in support. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Hargraves. All right, so

463
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,740
let's move then to the next item, which is the Waterfront Revitalization Master Plan

464
00:37:04,740 --> 00:37:09,980
and the Corporate Administration. Page 41, moved by Councillor Plessis. Seconded, oh, we

465
00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:13,660
don't need a seconder. I asked for a seconder in that last one. That cost me a dollar.

466
00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:15,300
Oh, I want to say it.

467
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,220
Oh, nuts.

468
00:37:17,140 --> 00:37:18,540
Hey, guess what, Councillor Plex is like,

469
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,500
give you back your door.

470
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,760
All right, so any comments or questions on this one?

471
00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:24,900
Councillor Gill.

472
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,420
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

473
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,860
I guess my question is, if this moves forward,

474
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,080
this will go to stay cold.

475
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,800
There is an communicate decision that was made.

476
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,100
But in part of that communications,

477
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:41,540
I know we touched a little bit about flexibility

478
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,580
as long as the principles are protected in the plan.

479
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:47,440
Will that be part of the communications as well?

480
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Through the Mr. Crawford I think, Stacey are you handling this one or do we have, oh there's Gerald, I can see you back there, who's going to handle this one?

481
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,140
Okay, go ahead.

482
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:10,040
So, through the deputy CEO, yes Councillor Gail, the principal flexibility will always remain as part of this plan.

483
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,280
Thank you.

484
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,240
Thank you very much Councillor Hamilton.

485
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:14,520
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

486
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:21,680
I'm pleased to see in the under the updates that it was recognized with the mission dikes

487
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,240
that they had to respond to the recent atmospheric river event, and which just again speaks

488
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:31,540
to the flexibility of the document, and that it is a living document, and I'm sure we'll

489
00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:37,680
see more of that as we progress through this plan, but that was important to me to see that.

490
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,080
Thank you very much.

491
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:45,280
Anybody else? Okay, well, we've heard lots about this one recently, so I am not surprised

492
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,260
that most of the discussion has happened. We'll call the question, all those in favor? Opposed?

493
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:54,620
Councillor Harar, that was you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

494
00:38:54,860 --> 00:39:00,740
Okay, thank you, so the matter carries by a 6-1 vote. Thank you. All right, so we can move

495
00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:07,860
now on to item 8b. Here we are being asked for a letter of approval and principle, and we

496
00:39:07,860 --> 00:39:12,620
We do have our director of finance here, if there are any questions, on page 45 of the agenda.

497
00:39:14,780 --> 00:39:19,360
Motion is in order, Councillor Plexus still moves. Any comments or questions?

498
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,760
Seeing none, I'll call the question.

499
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,620
Oh, Councillor, I'm sorry, Councillor Plexus, I didn't see you there then.

500
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:26,120
I'll go to just a quick question, and I do.

501
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,080
Looking at it, obviously, we are with the face increases.

502
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,520
We're looking at a potential tax increase in the next two years, or 1.8% something to think about.

503
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:59,640
And also the question I had was to do with a conversation that took place was I wasn't able to attend a number of weeks back in regards to the RCMP because some of their communities were asking for the government to pay the new wage that were given the RCMP we had put aside money for it, other communities were struggling with that, where did that end up in the end of the day did they get some reconsideration of the federal government?

504
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,420
It's still being, well, carry can answer that, it hasn't been resolved.

505
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,000
Yes, it has not been resolved.

506
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,680
It is still a waiting to get final decision from the Federal Government.

507
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,300
We have kept some money aside to be able to fund that.

508
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:19,800
To the best of our knowledge, we have sufficient funds in order to cover any wage increases that it's going to be retroactive.

509
00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:27,160
I'd like to add to that answer being how I've sat through two recent UBC mayor's committee meetings on this subject.

510
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,240
I'll speak about a couple other things that came out of that.

511
00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:34,640
But right now, the federal government has committed to holding off on invoicing provincial governments.

512
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:42,460
They had initially decided to hold off for May and then they became aware they didn't understand the budget cycle of BC municipalities and

513
00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:46,640
understand that even a June invoicing would affect budgeting adversely.

514
00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:56,820
I think that there has been a singular voice from UBCM's mayors in saying that the expectation is that the government should fund the change.

515
00:40:56,820 --> 00:41:02,320
and the retro. However, we still don't know the answer. I would describe the response we've

516
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:10,440
received at the staff level, at the just deputy minister level of being receptive and empathic.

517
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:18,140
But we don't know that will mean. And if we are able to receive something back from the federal

518
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:23,320
government to pay for that, then we will be in a better position than the vast majority of communities.

519
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:40,940
where it has really hit communities, is those communities that are small, or even worse, the ones that are on the threshold between small and I think it's 5,000 people that suddenly moves you into a whole new realm of sharing the funds and some of them are in that position.

520
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:48,700
So, there's lots there to still be had. I'll speak more of those meetings afterwards, but I'll go to Councilor Gill, I think was the other hand I saw before.

521
00:41:48,700 --> 00:42:00,400
I think you, Mayor Horn, I guess my question is more about the province and where they are with updating are coming to the table with our provincial officers.

522
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,300
I know we haven't got an update in capacity from them for at least over 10 years.

523
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:15,600
So for the provincial government, we do have a request in for the fourth I think year in a row, but maybe more to the Mr.

524
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,660
of Catholic Catholic to the government to ask for an augmentation of our provincial officer

525
00:42:20,660 --> 00:42:22,400
compliment and I think we're waiting for an answer.

526
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,580
Yeah, it's a pretty common request from the city of Michigan to augment those provincial

527
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:29,480
officers that are based out of our detachment so.

528
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,240
It's been supported by the camel that we asked for that because they are part of that

529
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,440
decommon island community.

530
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:41,600
Right now what's happening is that we are actually having some of our local municipal officers,

531
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:55,960
having to attend to emergencies out in that area, and really, it would be much nicer simply to have a more fair distribution of that time, and we've spoken as a voice, and we'll do so again at UBCM if we don't see an announcement in the summer.

532
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,320
Thank you.

533
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:06,320
I'll add some comments quickly again, updating. I'll use this as an opportunity to update the two recent meetings that mayors have had around the subject of RCMP issues.

534
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,500
I know that Councillor Hamilton and I have both heard about this recently as well.

535
00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:16,020
There are a number of things coming down the pike that will affect the cost of policing

536
00:43:16,020 --> 00:43:17,460
for RCMP communities.

537
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:22,900
One of them was the CRTC decision and I'm going to repeat that it was not an RCMP decision.

538
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:30,620
It was the CRTC's decision to expand 911 capacity so that people will be able ultimately

539
00:43:30,620 --> 00:43:39,300
to text, people will be able to have their location in a building identified using a sort of triangulation technology.

540
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:42,800
So if you're on a multi-story building, it'll know.

541
00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:48,020
But the cost of that will be quite significant, and there's a bit of a hidden cost that we heard of,

542
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:53,800
which is that a number right now, if you accidentally dial 911 and you immediately realize it and hang up.

543
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,880
The system doesn't register it and a police officer does not go to the site, but that will change.

544
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:11,080
So not only will the system itself cost more, but anything less than, I think, anything longer than a 0.25 second ring through will result in a police officer going to the location.

545
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,560
And so that will be in itself an expense of things.

546
00:44:14,740 --> 00:44:29,180
So that's a concern, body worn cameras and new technologies such as pads and so forth, body armor, insurance stickers, the removal of insurance stickers from police car, from license plates.

547
00:44:29,180 --> 00:44:33,340
States may end up causing cities to have to have better license plate scanners.

548
00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:39,900
All of these things are things that are being generated at the federal level or at other

549
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:45,000
branches of government, and we have been a long advocate for more of a rule for the municipal

550
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,580
voice.

551
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:48,760
And so it's a challenge that will continue to be with us.

552
00:44:49,540 --> 00:44:54,840
When I speak with my colleagues from around the province, we're interested in further initiatives

553
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,840
just like car 67 and so forth, but we can't even have conversations about those types of

554
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:28,260
Outreach type programs that meet our community need because we're sort of having to constantly deal with things that are coming from another level of government. I'm not suggesting that we should get a rid of the system or anything radical, but I think it will be a constant battle for us as a community to advocate for a more balanced voice in policing. While we're supportive of the RCMP, I think we also need to keep it in check with our other expenditures.

555
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,900
Any other comments from members of Council, from either of the Councillors who are attending virtually?

556
00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:34,660
Do you have any comments?

557
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Hearing none?

558
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,080
Okay.

559
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,000
I'll call the question, then, all those in favour?

560
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Opposed?

561
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:43,160
It's carried.

562
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:44,140
Unanimously.

563
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:45,600
Thank you very much, Ms. Ancon.

564
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,100
All right.

565
00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:55,060
And we will move then to the dedication of 29485 done to the avenue as a park, moved by

566
00:45:55,060 --> 00:46:00,940
Councillor Hamilton and I just have what asked for a seconder. Any comments or questions

567
00:46:00,940 --> 00:46:02,340
for staff? Councillor Plessas?

568
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:07,280
It's curious now that we've got this dedicated to Park which is exciting news. Is there

569
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,560
going to be any indication in the next capital budget expenses going towards improving that

570
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,500
site like Park Signager? Fencing or anything? Is anything going to be invested in that area

571
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:22,980
for us at Park? No, it is dedicated to Park. Mr. Doffin I don't know if you've had a chance

572
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:30,120
And to look at whether or not that fits into our parks and trails at this point, because it's a property that wasn't contemplated when we acquired it.

573
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:35,000
So I don't know what, that may be a difficult question to answer off the cuff.

574
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:47,140
Through the WCAO, we do have some plans regarding the Donatelli Park space, but at this time, nothing is currently set for,

575
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,020
set to move forward with the issue.

576
00:46:50,020 --> 00:46:54,340
just curious. Thank you. My question would be similar and it may deserve some type.

577
00:46:54,460 --> 00:46:56,360
Oh, Councillor Gill, I'll let you go first. I'm sorry.

578
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,060
Thank you, Mayor Horn. I guess my question is, is the park open to the public?

579
00:47:01,940 --> 00:47:07,220
If so, what is, are we going to communicate, what's the communication strategy looking

580
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:08,020
like to the public?

581
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:16,740
Through the WCAO, currently the park is undeveloped as it stands right

582
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:19,740
now. I think it's going to be which comes to my

583
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:24,860
question important for us to have a strategy here because on that park exists what I would

584
00:47:24,860 --> 00:47:30,720
describe as a heritage home and a very old and fragile church. I know the story of the

585
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,360
church it was not meant to be a permanent structure and it's managed to survive for

586
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:40,200
a very long time. So while this property was predominantly I believe acquired for its wetland

587
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,740
potential and its habitat it also does have some heritage value and so I think we should

588
00:47:45,740 --> 00:47:52,220
We'd ask staff to give us some, we should perhaps give direction to staff just to advise us on how we would move forward with the property.

589
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:58,020
Tonight, we're dedicating it, but I think the next steps will be to come and give us some advice on that, Mr. Pitkely.

590
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:14,040
I think, once we've got our parks and trails master plan, but I think the next step for that would be to actually do some master planning for each of the individual parks that we own in the city, and we haven't really got to that detail yet, but it would be something to look forward to in the next term for sure.

591
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:25,900
And I think that the conversation I've referenced earlier when we had our guests from the cross is that on the 18th I anticipate if you look at the Utilities Master Plan is freshener minds and deals with that infrastructure.

592
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,640
The Transportation Master Plan is just the same date so it's equally fresh.

593
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:41,720
But the Trails and Parks Master Plan is a little older and it might not seem as old and normal times but things have changed so much including this acquisition here.

594
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:46,160
that it might be an opportunity, and I think that's part of what we'll do in the 18th.

595
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:52,360
Is Giz staff a sense of what areas we'd like them to investigate and be able to go off

596
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,040
and digest it?

597
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:58,060
We're not going to decide on the 18th to spend a bunch of money on specific projects, but

598
00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:02,360
I think we can, and I've emailed Council in advance to say, can you please give staff

599
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,240
a bit of a heads up so that they can sort to compile what the list might look like?

600
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,240
And so I would remind Council of that, if you can give staff a bit of a heads up as to

601
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,940
what might be on your wish list for thoughts,

602
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,080
and this might be one of them.

603
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:16,340
Mr. Stewart, did you have anything to add to that

604
00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:18,480
or is that summarized what you think will happen that day?

605
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:21,240
No, it's essentially what we're planning to do

606
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,720
is give you an update as to what's required

607
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,300
within the capital plan to maintain the assets we have

608
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:29,500
and what discretionary money counsel may have to work with

609
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:31,860
and then ultimately finding out what your priorities are.

610
00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:32,920
Thank you.

611
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:36,020
Ms. Russell, we actually had this under by-laws tonight,

612
00:49:36,020 --> 00:49:37,940
so we don't need to vote on it currently right now.

613
00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:40,480
So the motion is actually not necessary, correct?

614
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:48,080
Okay, so we'll just leave that motion on the table and we'll deal with it later on, Councillor, who moved that?

615
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:56,180
Councillor Plessas, but we'll, I think we'll deal with it informally here, sit out right now and go to it at the, at the, at the

616
00:49:56,180 --> 00:49:56,980
formal slater on.

617
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,740
Members of council who are online virtually, do you have any comments on this one?

618
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,500
No comments on this one.

619
00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:05,600
Okay, thank you.

620
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:13,760
Next item is the late item, 8D, excuse me, and I'm going to intro this one a little bit just so

621
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,740
the Council and community have some background. So currently, this is the matter of Council

622
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:27,400
remuneration. Council has a policy that's intended to sort of ensure that there's a degree of neutrality

623
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:35,500
in the way Council member salaries are determined. And Council has a two-step process, the first

624
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:39,500
First is that they approve a number of communities that are meant as comparators.

625
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,960
We did that about a month ago, as I recall, and they were the same ones that were used four years previously.

626
00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:48,920
And then those averages are brought forward to Council.

627
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,880
Typically, what we have done as a practice is to choose the average of the comparator communities.

628
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:02,700
And then the salary of counselors has been 50% of the salary of the mayor.

629
00:51:03,260 --> 00:51:09,080
Here, if you look at the page staff of provided and page 8 of the late item, I notice the staff

630
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,560
have given us some options here.

631
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:17,920
So while the recommendation includes an average of the shaded communities of 103, 933, which

632
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,980
is the recommendation staff have put forward, there is another option which is the median

633
00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:24,840
of the communities of a similar size.

634
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,100
In other words, right literally smack dab in the middle, which happens to be the same as

635
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:30,140
Vernon.

636
00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:32,820
And so I'll point that out to Council for their information.

637
00:51:33,380 --> 00:51:41,780
It's 96.491 or about $6,000 more than the current salary of the mayor at this time.

638
00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:45,480
And again, at last point I'll make is for the community's identification.

639
00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:52,320
These would be, in effect, after the election when a new council is installed as is our practice.

640
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:55,800
So, there is a recommendation there, Council.

641
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:56,600
What is your wishes?

642
00:51:57,540 --> 00:51:59,540
I get a comment there.

643
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:02,800
Okay, so is there a motion, Councillor Harar?

644
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,580
Yeah, I'll move it.

645
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:05,520
Move what?

646
00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:06,760
Oh, sorry.

647
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,160
Go ahead.

648
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:07,600
Go ahead.

649
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:10,500
Now I'm asking whether or not there's a motion on the floor.

650
00:52:11,260 --> 00:52:15,140
So, Councillor Crawford will start us off with some motion, Councillor Crawford.

651
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,380
Thank you, Mayor Horne.

652
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,400
I'd like to make the motion that we use the median figure.

653
00:52:21,460 --> 00:52:21,740
Never.

654
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,740
I just used the 96.

655
00:52:23,260 --> 00:52:23,380
Yes.

656
00:52:23,820 --> 00:52:24,140
Thank you.

657
00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:24,560
So 96.

658
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,740
4641 increase. Thank you. Councillor Harar, did you hear that?

659
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,200
Okay, go ahead and speak, Councillor Harar.

660
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:39,440
Yeah, I do that Mayor Warren and with Councillor Crawford there, I think that I initially was

661
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,480
in favor of the increase for both Mayor and Council being the size of our community.

662
00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:50,820
You know, it was my opinion that our salaries matched with the size communities were in line

663
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:52,560
and with the same ballpark.

664
00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:54,740
Can Mayor Council receive a significant increase

665
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,560
approved in 2018 by a previous serving council

666
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,820
which placed us on par with other summer municipalities?

667
00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:06,940
Exploring further, will these proposed increases on the table?

668
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,740
I do not believe council should receive an increase

669
00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:10,820
at this present time.

670
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,660
I feel we're properly aligned,

671
00:53:12,980 --> 00:53:15,220
but I do feel the mayor should receive a modest increase

672
00:53:15,220 --> 00:53:19,480
up to 96,000 from 80, 8,000.

673
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:34,480
I believe this is fair considering time commitment and workload and with the position entails as all as all of counsel has served our time is acting mayor we have learned firsthand the demands of the mayor role.

674
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:45,580
If we were to prove these increases in front of us today for both mayor and counsel will be on the high side of salaries for communities under 50,000 population.

675
00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:48,740
As a merit job, it's full-time, it's a full-time position.

676
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,780
The council provides opportunity for some members to have flexibility in securing additional

677
00:53:52,780 --> 00:53:58,100
sources of income for other career opportunities and saying that it can save this next council

678
00:53:58,100 --> 00:53:59,780
in June of 2026.

679
00:54:00,980 --> 00:54:05,440
I would strongly encourage to go ahead for these changes.

680
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:12,240
As we will be adding two more council members and we'll be close to 50,000 in populations.

681
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:19,360
issues. But in saying that, Mayor Horn, I do believe that the Council should have mobile

682
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:26,260
phones to support our communication efforts with the community. I'd like to put that on

683
00:54:26,260 --> 00:54:26,940
the table as well.

684
00:54:27,420 --> 00:54:31,240
Okay, so I'll deal with, here's how I'll try to deal with Councillor Hurrah. First, a clarification

685
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:37,300
to Councillor Crawford. Councillor Crawford was your motion for 96, 491 for the Mayor and

686
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,220
and 50% of that for Councillors.

687
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:39,960
It's correct.

688
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,820
Okay, so Councillor Harar, I will split the motion

689
00:54:42,820 --> 00:54:43,860
when we call the question.

690
00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:46,140
Then I will come back to you separately

691
00:54:46,140 --> 00:54:48,740
to deal with the question of cell phones, okay?

692
00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:54,320
So right now, what's on the table is the motion

693
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,180
as an entirety is 96, 491 for the mayor

694
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,300
and 50% of that for Councillors in the new year.

695
00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:05,800
And I will call each of those as two separate votes,

696
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,380
but you can debate on any part of them if you wish to.

697
00:55:09,740 --> 00:55:10,720
Anybody else like to speak?

698
00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:11,520
Councillor Plecus.

699
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,940
Thank you, and thank you, comments, and Councillor Herrera, and Councillor Grofford.

700
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,800
I do support, I'm concerned with the mayor's salary.

701
00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:24,040
I do think it's a little considering that you're in a roll, sort of like executive officer,

702
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,340
and you spend a lot of time in city hall, do a lot of community-based events.

703
00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:32,420
And I think, though, that I would accept the motion as it's read, I think that somebody

704
00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:39,580
that role is because they are full-time and someone who does executive capacity work is

705
00:55:39,580 --> 00:55:41,420
usually paid more and that's all I would say.

706
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:42,860
Councilors are fine.

707
00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:46,340
I don't have any issue with that, but I just think that it's low, but I'll certainly

708
00:55:46,340 --> 00:55:47,200
support the motion.

709
00:55:47,660 --> 00:55:47,960
Thank you.

710
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:48,580
I want to ignore that.

711
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,040
Councillor Gilhead has had it.

712
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,360
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

713
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,080
I think anyone that does this role full-time, whether it's the Mayor or Council, is definitely

714
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,020
underpaid, especially when it comes probably to the mayor.

715
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,520
I know you do this rule almost 24-7.

716
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:12,940
But I think over the past couple days I've had the chance to speak to a couple people just paying their taxes to.

717
00:56:13,620 --> 00:56:19,000
And especially even the markets that were heading into people are starting to tighten up their belts.

718
00:56:19,340 --> 00:56:26,220
And I think as leaders to show good leadership, it's important that we do tighten up our budgets

719
00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:31,360
our budgets as well, whether it's, especially when we're thinking about giving ourselves a

720
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:37,020
pay increase, so I don't support it. I think status quo is fine with me. And then, in

721
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:39,720
respects to cell phones, I use one I, per...

722
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:40,640
I'll come to cell phones later.

723
00:56:40,740 --> 00:56:40,940
Okay.

724
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:45,020
I'll let you to be cell phones later. Anybody else, members of Council?

725
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,320
Sir Davies?

726
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:49,020
Sir Councilor.

727
00:56:49,580 --> 00:56:50,520
Go ahead, Councilor Davies.

728
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Well, I wasn't initially going to support this, but when you look at it and you go with

729
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:03,020
what's the median half across the cities, then that probably makes it a lot more palatable.

730
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:06,660
It's that I grew the council practice for the mayor's salary, it's definitely on the

731
00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:11,160
low side for the council's salary and it's probably where a line where it should be.

732
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,860
But this isn't a raise for this council.

733
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,900
This is an alignment for the next council that comes in and as leaders we need to make

734
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:23,920
sure that that council is set off on the right foot and that they have the means and the

735
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,600
and the pay to ensure that they successfully do their job, so I'll support this.

736
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:30,400
Thank you.

737
00:57:30,940 --> 00:57:31,520
Mr. Hamilton.

738
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,540
I mean, I agree with what my fellow Councillors have said about the mayor.

739
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,140
I think it does warrant a little bit more about I'll support the motion as it's put forward.

740
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:47,120
And I find having now served two terms on council, our time has definitely increased at the amount

741
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,260
of time that we're spending because there's more demands on us as the city grows.

742
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:58,040
So I think it's fair that we support the increase for the Councillors to 50% of what the mayor's salary is.

743
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:58,720
Thank you.

744
00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:00,100
Anybody else?

745
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,260
I'll speak before your Councillor Harara.

746
00:58:03,340 --> 00:58:04,480
I'll go back for a second time.

747
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,280
But my comments will be this.

748
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:13,340
In terms of the mayor's salary, it's obviously very difficult to speak about a salary that I will be putting my hat in the ring term.

749
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,400
I mean, it's obviously one of the challenges of being an elected official, but it is what it is.

750
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,180
every Canadian municipality faces this, and it's just the practice that you have to get through.

751
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:32,520
I'll speak very directly and say it's one of the most common things you hear from people that they're worried when it comes to this, that this is going to get turned into something that appears greedy.

752
00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:43,720
In truth, the reality is I strongly believe that the principles applying to elected officials are the same as applied to those working in the private sector and leadership capacities you get what you pay for.

753
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,980
And the reality is folks asked me about running for mayor many times over the years,

754
00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:53,160
and it was really a choice for me about being able to pay bills, it genuinely was.

755
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:58,040
So I don't feel good about 103,000, I think that's too much of a leap at once.

756
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:03,880
So I think the conversation about where we're heading and people's expectations of austerity are sound.

757
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:13,600
However, I do think that the pay scale being suggested here is actually less than

758
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:19,280
I made in my previous job three years ago, so it gives you an idea of where that is and

759
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,020
that job I didn't have to work through the summer.

760
00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:27,060
So I do think it's important for us to think about what the market would bear and

761
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:29,960
attracting people who actually bring a suite of skills.

762
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:36,480
I want to speak in favor actually of maintaining the current salary of counselors.

763
00:59:37,180 --> 00:59:42,720
Councillors, as Councillor Hamilton said, have an increasing burden on their time.

764
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,540
And what people may not realize is that your phone doesn't ring 9-5 Monday through Friday.

765
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:54,000
It involves being at work when most people are socializing, your evenings, your weekends.

766
00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:59,740
And dealing with people who have complex and sometimes emotional challenges.

767
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,720
These are not things that you measure by hour, but by impact in your life. Very few of us,

768
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,080
I think, get to go away for a weekend, someplace and not check our emails, for example. And those

769
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,260
little red dots on my phone are the bane of my existence. Yesterday was the first day

770
01:00:15,260 --> 01:00:20,540
I kid you not, the first day since being elected, that I chose not to look at my phone at all

771
01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:26,640
and it was difficult to do. But it was my father's day yesterday because my father's day didn't

772
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,280
actually get to happen on Father's Day.

773
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,680
So I think it's important for the community

774
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,040
to get a genuine idea of what's expected.

775
01:00:33,980 --> 01:00:35,000
You know, this time of the year,

776
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,560
every four years, we start to have people

777
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,300
are interested in running for office.

778
01:00:38,740 --> 01:00:40,880
And I think folks need to understand

779
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,160
what it actually involves.

780
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,980
Financially, it's not going to make a big difference

781
01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:47,460
to people if it's a couple of thousand dollars more.

782
01:00:48,580 --> 01:00:51,880
But it is about fairness in my mind or equity.

783
01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:53,400
Excuse me.

784
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:59,480
So, as I said in a moment, I'll split the vote into the two questions, but I'll be voting in support of both increases.

785
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:01,740
Councillor Hurrah.

786
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,300
Yeah, thanks, Mayor Gorn.

787
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:12,740
I just want to clarify, so if you're supporting the mayor's increase, you see 50% to count, you know, 50% of councils will wages as well.

788
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,060
What does that entail for the Councillors?

789
01:01:15,620 --> 01:01:18,420
What is the exact wage shift we give here?

790
01:01:18,420 --> 01:01:20,560
They will go out by about $3,000 per Councillor.

791
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,920
Excuse me, about $3,000 per councilor per year.

792
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:27,500
My apologies for coughing in your ear.

793
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:30,140
Okay, okay, $3,000.

794
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:30,900
Oh, okay.

795
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,060
Thank you.

796
01:01:32,180 --> 01:01:32,340
Gotcha.

797
01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:33,040
Thank you.

798
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:33,520
Thank you very much.

799
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Appreciate it.

800
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:35,920
I'll get a glass of water in a moment here.

801
01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:37,160
Thank you.

802
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,540
Okay, so if there's nothing further, I'm going to call the question first on the mayor's salary,

803
01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:46,620
which would go up to $96.491 and then be raised by CPI until the next review.

804
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:49,860
If everybody clear on the question, call on the question.

805
01:01:49,860 --> 01:01:55,020
All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Gil is opposed. Councillor Harar is opposed.

806
01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:59,200
The matter carries by a square of five to two. Now we'll deal with the matter of council

807
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,140
salaries. Thank you very much, Mr. Pitcaffley.

808
01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:11,200
Excuse me, Mayor Warren. I was confused there. I thought I do support the mayor's salary

809
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,860
but not the mayor's salary. Okay, thank you, so that I do what I've spoken of too.

810
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:18,900
Okay, thank you. So that will record that as a six-to-one vote in favor of the mayor's

811
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,180
I'm sorry, going to that 96 for 91.

812
01:02:21,980 --> 01:02:22,960
My poll, thank you.

813
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,660
Now on the subject of the councillor's salaries,

814
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,940
which would be half of 96 for 91,

815
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,920
which by my account calculation is about 48 to 50,

816
01:02:32,820 --> 01:02:35,020
did I pass, Mr. Stewart, did I get that right?

817
01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:37,340
Good, excellent, ask the math guy.

818
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:39,040
I'll call the question on this one.

819
01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:39,900
All those in favor?

820
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:42,000
Opposed?

821
01:02:43,020 --> 01:02:45,440
It is, Councillor Davies, how did you vote, sir?

822
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:48,350
In favor.

823
01:02:48,350 --> 01:02:51,590
So, that matter carries by a total of five to two.

824
01:02:52,050 --> 01:02:54,810
Thank you, so the matter carries.

825
01:02:55,090 --> 01:02:58,470
Councillor Hurr, are you wanted to raise a motion on cell phone use?

826
01:02:59,150 --> 01:03:03,010
We didn't have a notice of motion on this one, and I suspect staff won't have any

827
01:03:03,010 --> 01:03:07,010
numbers on cell phone use, but if you want to raise it as a question for staff to

828
01:03:07,010 --> 01:03:10,230
investigate, that might be how I would frame this as a question.

829
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:15,670
Maybe we could start off with this, Mayor Hornis, we used to have cell phones in the past.

830
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:17,690
What was the reason behind taking away?

831
01:03:19,230 --> 01:03:22,710
Well, I think we should put a motion on the table first and then we'll ask the question.

832
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:26,190
So, procedurally, are you moving that we ask staff to investigate cell phones?

833
01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:27,350
That's correct.

834
01:03:27,850 --> 01:03:28,270
Thank you.

835
01:03:28,610 --> 01:03:34,130
Okay, and the question through the staff is, and I don't recall because I wasn't on council at

836
01:03:34,130 --> 01:03:38,330
the time that cell phones were provided to all of council, does anybody recall that?

837
01:03:39,870 --> 01:03:41,150
I don't recall that either.

838
01:03:42,310 --> 01:03:48,190
The mayor has a cell phone, which, by the way, I just don't use, I've just used my own cell phone and forward

839
01:03:48,190 --> 01:03:55,350
everything through, but Ms. Russell, I don't think, Mr. Councillor Harar, that anybody on staff can recall a time when that happened.

840
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:56,270
Okay, that's fine.

841
01:03:56,570 --> 01:03:57,010
Okay, that's fine.

842
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:58,370
It was just an idea, yeah.

843
01:03:59,830 --> 01:04:02,190
So, any other comments or questions on this one?

844
01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:05,390
The motion is to ask staff to investigate cell phones.

845
01:04:06,970 --> 01:04:11,050
I will speak to the motion and simply say, I think part of the reason that,

846
01:04:11,050 --> 01:04:14,390
that we are funded, we are looking at this increases that the cost of being a

847
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:18,390
Councillor goes up and that includes cell phone use and it certainly includes the

848
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:21,890
cost of transportation. It's probably one of the biggest differences in my current

849
01:04:21,890 --> 01:04:27,450
job, my old job, is that I'm constantly using my car and unless I travel more than I

850
01:04:27,450 --> 01:04:33,650
think 50 kilometers, I eat that cost. And so I think that it's meant Councillor

851
01:04:34,170 --> 01:04:36,770
to be included in the increase that just got approved.

852
01:04:38,450 --> 01:04:39,530
Excuse me, we're apologies.

853
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:41,470
Sorry.

854
01:04:43,110 --> 01:04:46,430
All right, I'll call the question, then, all those in favor?

855
01:04:47,470 --> 01:04:48,990
Councillor Hurrari, you're in favor?

856
01:04:49,290 --> 01:04:50,310
Councillor Davies, you're in favor?

857
01:04:51,630 --> 01:04:52,790
Councillor Davies, were you in favor?

858
01:04:53,970 --> 01:04:54,890
The motion over, please.

859
01:04:55,450 --> 01:04:57,790
It was just for your act, for Ken's motion on cell phones.

860
01:04:58,190 --> 01:05:02,890
The motion was to ask the staff to investigate the practicality of cell phones for

861
01:05:02,890 --> 01:05:07,150
Councillors. Sorry, not too much. Sorry, over my coughing, it's hard to understand.

862
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:12,130
I'll call the question again. All those in favor of the motion? Councillor

863
01:05:12,130 --> 01:05:20,750
Herrscher, those opposed. Matter is denied by a council, count of six to one. Thank you.

864
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:28,890
Okay, we will move on now to, if I can stop coughing long enough, to development application.

865
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:35,310
This is item 9a, page 73, 6th Avenue, and 7542 Briskam Street.

866
01:05:35,730 --> 01:05:37,870
There is a recommendation from staff.

867
01:05:38,910 --> 01:05:40,730
Movered, please, Councillor Gil.

868
01:05:41,010 --> 01:05:41,970
Any comments or questions?

869
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:45,490
Councillor Gil.

870
01:05:46,370 --> 01:05:47,430
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

871
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:50,530
I do support moving this forward.

872
01:05:50,970 --> 01:05:55,910
I guess my question isn't particularly on this application, but I think moving forward,

873
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:58,990
when you look along 6th Avenue, they're quite larger properties.

874
01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:04,030
And I'm wondering what the future for the briskum intersection is for the design of it.

875
01:06:04,270 --> 01:06:07,070
Or is it something that we're going to be working on or in the future?

876
01:06:07,610 --> 01:06:11,510
That's we can ask staff to include that if the matter passes and goes to a public hearing.

877
01:06:11,530 --> 01:06:12,830
They can include that in a presentation.

878
01:06:13,090 --> 01:06:13,310
Perfect.

879
01:06:13,470 --> 01:06:14,030
Does that sound okay?

880
01:06:14,190 --> 01:06:14,550
That's perfect.

881
01:06:14,910 --> 01:06:15,970
Is that okay with you, Mr. Pueblo?

882
01:06:16,190 --> 01:06:18,130
Because we don't have engineering here anymore.

883
01:06:18,450 --> 01:06:19,070
I think we've-

884
01:06:19,070 --> 01:06:19,630
Oh, I'm sorry.

885
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:21,390
Tracy, I couldn't see behind Councillor Crawford.

886
01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:23,450
Do you want to answer the question now?

887
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:25,230
Or would you prefer to deal with that public hearing?

888
01:06:25,230 --> 01:06:27,330
We can bring the information to the public here.

889
01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:29,170
Thank you very much. Sorry I didn't see you there.

890
01:06:29,690 --> 01:06:31,790
Councillor Plessis, just a brief question.

891
01:06:31,950 --> 01:06:36,970
I know that the driveway has been reduced from 7.7 meters, 6.5.

892
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:42,910
I wanted to know, 7.5 to 6, yes, to 7, 6.5.

893
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:45,610
The question is, does that impact on the fire department?

894
01:06:45,930 --> 01:06:50,690
Because it is like a drive through, a drive-rate through, one in the other, there's no detours.

895
01:06:50,990 --> 01:06:52,830
It looks like a roadway into itself.

896
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:59,670
Both. The simple answer is no. The minimum requirement that the fire department demands

897
01:06:59,670 --> 01:07:04,970
is six meters. The by-law requirement of 7.5 exceeds the minimum fire department

898
01:07:04,970 --> 01:07:05,410
requirement.

899
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:11,510
I thank you. I know many people park in front of their garages in the directional way, so thank

900
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:11,670
you.

901
01:07:12,310 --> 01:07:14,130
Okay, I'll call the question. Then there's nothing further.

902
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:19,090
Counselors Hararan Davies, I can't see you again, so please speak up if you wish to speak.

903
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:22,750
Okay, I'll call the question then, all those in favor?

904
01:07:23,330 --> 01:07:24,750
Opposed? It's carried unanimously.

905
01:07:25,610 --> 01:07:29,410
Now we'll move on to the item 8241, Hazel Crescent.

906
01:07:30,170 --> 01:07:38,190
And I'm going to be a little bit unusual and I'm going to actually move this one myself with an extra amendment,

907
01:07:38,190 --> 01:07:47,890
which is that staff be asked to speak to the applicant and report at the public hearing on whether or not they're willing to covenant that the driveway,

908
01:07:47,890 --> 01:07:52,710
The shared driveway would remain free of vehicles, or they would enforce that.

909
01:07:53,150 --> 01:07:53,650
Mr. Pueblo?

910
01:07:57,310 --> 01:08:01,450
The current driveway is protected by an easement currently.

911
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:04,330
The easement was put in place in 1980.

912
01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:06,670
So it exists already, those protections are there.

913
01:08:07,030 --> 01:08:12,710
There are private arrangement between this property owner, the property owner, to the south, and

914
01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:16,550
benefiting the property owner further south.

915
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:16,670
Both.

916
01:08:17,070 --> 01:08:39,750
So, clarify for me because my understanding is that while the easement allows for that, essentially, that Panhandle style driveway, what it doesn't necessarily stipulate is that if neighbor A has a concern about neighbor B parking vehicles or storing items along that easement temporarily, that they would be able to then act and hold them to moving those vehicles.

917
01:08:40,150 --> 01:08:44,970
Is that accurate or is it stipulated in the easement that the roadway must be kept clear?

918
01:08:44,970 --> 01:08:49,310
Yeah, that protection is already there in the usement.

919
01:08:49,890 --> 01:08:51,870
That's exactly what it's intended for.

920
01:08:52,110 --> 01:08:56,930
It provides for a continuous free and unencumbered access.

921
01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:58,670
Thank you.

922
01:08:59,090 --> 01:09:03,270
I'll make the motion without the extra amendment and ask to have to speak to that evening.

923
01:09:03,970 --> 01:09:08,350
The one thing I'll ask before I go to Councillor Plessis, just to be clear,

924
01:09:08,810 --> 01:09:14,170
the applicant does have to identify and will have had to identify a spot

925
01:09:14,170 --> 01:09:18,790
for the Secondary Suite to Park opposite other than the space, correct?

926
01:09:19,350 --> 01:09:21,530
Correct, and we've already worked that out with the applicant.

927
01:09:22,330 --> 01:09:29,530
It will be on Hazel, they currently have a two-car concrete driveway, they'll be adding an additional

928
01:09:29,530 --> 01:09:34,430
stall to the east of that to make up to make the third parking stall, so in no way

929
01:09:34,430 --> 01:09:35,790
impacting the existing easement.

930
01:09:36,310 --> 01:09:36,550
Thank you.

931
01:09:36,910 --> 01:09:41,870
I guess my comment would be, again, apologies to Council for going first this time.

932
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:52,770
And speaking, and I think we've all received correspondence from the property owner and we'll make sure that that's noted at public hearing as well, but have an opportunity for them to have heard these comments tonight and respond.

933
01:09:53,510 --> 01:10:05,250
I think part of this may be simply a matter of how neighbors are interacting with neighbors, and that's something that I think we can't regulate, we can't create a regulation that deals with that issue.

934
01:10:05,250 --> 01:10:12,450
But my concern is, if this issue is already going on, I would love to see that out of this process,

935
01:10:12,450 --> 01:10:19,010
there was actually some sort of mandate or some sort of way of undertaking that this would

936
01:10:19,010 --> 01:10:25,530
actually lead to more of a clear understanding of the home that would be impacted by further

937
01:10:25,530 --> 01:10:30,090
parking. Councillor Plecus, you've asked a question about the extra parking spots for the

938
01:10:31,690 --> 01:10:41,830
So we'll have an opportunity to hear from these folks out of public hearing, and I would encourage the people, both properties to come and make sure that they heard that evening.

939
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:45,410
Can I answer a question before we go on, Mr. Mayor?

940
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:47,130
Yes, Councillor Davies, thank you.

941
01:10:47,130 --> 01:10:53,830
All right. Thank you. Can you stop confirming this and maybe get some details from the for the public hearing is?

942
01:10:54,470 --> 01:11:00,050
What is the egress point for the secondary suite? Is it in of the easement or is it into the driveway?

943
01:11:00,530 --> 01:11:06,030
You know, and and how that will work to ensure that their safety when the when if one attends moving from their

944
01:11:06,030 --> 01:11:08,470
property line into the easement that that

945
01:11:09,310 --> 01:11:10,350
is looked after?

946
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:15,410
Did you did you did you hear that Councillor or the service to public because I had difficulty understanding it?

947
01:11:15,410 --> 01:11:23,570
I understood the question, so I think you were asking about how how a occupant of the future suite would get into their suite, correct?

948
01:11:24,050 --> 01:11:27,410
That's correct, and currently the understanding is that maybe from the close-up?

949
01:11:28,590 --> 01:11:38,730
Yeah, currently the site plan that we have or the layout for the dwelling that we have shows that the suite would be accessed from a stairwell that's located on the south of the current house.

950
01:11:39,010 --> 01:11:44,690
So essentially in the backyard of the current house, the way it's seated, it is very likely.

951
01:11:44,690 --> 01:11:56,130
Although it's not, we don't have this confirmed with a diagram, but it's very likely that the individual would walk around the side of the house through the easement area to the front yard and then access their vehicle there.

952
01:11:56,730 --> 01:12:03,790
So yes, there would be pedestrian movement through the easement, but that's perfectly permitted under the conditions of the easement.

953
01:12:04,210 --> 01:12:14,010
The easement needs to be kept free and clear for the residents further south, but it is still part of the applicants property and they can use it and

954
01:12:14,010 --> 01:12:19,390
as long as they don't encumber the other residents or stop them from passing or repassing.

955
01:12:20,090 --> 01:12:25,670
I think it's fair to say that Council will want some photographs and drawings showing

956
01:12:25,670 --> 01:12:29,610
the layout when the public hearing comes, if this matter passes this evening.

957
01:12:31,070 --> 01:12:35,230
Okay, I'll call the question then. All those in favor? Opposed?

958
01:12:36,430 --> 01:12:37,650
Councillor Harrier opposed?

959
01:12:38,370 --> 01:12:38,530
Yes.

960
01:12:38,850 --> 01:12:42,850
Say, the matter passes will go to public hearing by a count of six to one.

961
01:12:42,850 --> 01:12:44,190
Thank you.

962
01:12:45,890 --> 01:12:48,710
And we would like to do, I wasn't in favor of this item.

963
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:50,070
I'm sorry, Councillor Davies.

964
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:52,090
Yeah, I was opposed to this as well.

965
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:53,970
Okay, by a score of five to two.

966
01:12:54,690 --> 01:12:55,310
Thank you.

967
01:12:56,650 --> 01:13:05,050
We move now to the next item, which is on Horn Street, and this is item 9c, and page 115

968
01:13:05,050 --> 01:13:07,710
of the agenda, 7330 Horn Street.

969
01:13:07,890 --> 01:13:12,830
There is a recommendation from staff, but I know there were some concerns.

970
01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:17,570
concerns from some around the parking? What's your pleasure? Counselor Crawford.

971
01:13:18,690 --> 01:13:23,610
I'd like to make some comments on the development. If I may, particularly on the,

972
01:13:24,690 --> 01:13:25,690
do you want to motion up?

973
01:13:25,810 --> 01:13:31,270
You should put a motion on the table, whether it's to defer, whether it's to deny,

974
01:13:31,610 --> 01:13:35,070
or whether it's to put it on the table as it is, but what's your pleasure?

975
01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:38,570
My goodness.

976
01:13:39,670 --> 01:13:43,150
If you have a question to ask before you decide, then that's fine, too.

977
01:13:43,150 --> 01:14:08,330
Yes, I'm very concerned about a couple of the paragraphs that refer to parking and the fact that this change that is coming about after we've given it its last reading indicates that we will lose four parking spaces, a parallel parking spaces on the south side of second avenue.

978
01:14:08,330 --> 01:14:17,830
and we will lose five parking spaces on Horn Street and it's really bothering me to

979
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:25,970
great a great amount that we would take nine parking stalls away from the

980
01:14:25,970 --> 01:14:33,050
downtown parking area which is already repeatedly we hear a short of parking

981
01:14:33,050 --> 01:14:43,670
installs in that in all of the downtown area. And this is a very nice architecturally

982
01:14:43,670 --> 01:14:50,430
pleasing building. It certainly hasn't asked if I recall correctly for any incentives

983
01:14:50,430 --> 01:14:59,750
Is there anything as far as any sweets that are rent controlled or anything?

984
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,320
In it, and it looks like a very nice situation, but it only allows according to the parking requirements 40, the 40 stalls that are required plus one, but none of those stalls will benefit the parking that is required in the downtown area to service the different businesses that surround that area. And this change that has been offered to us,

985
01:15:30,020 --> 01:15:40,600
that they would like to see, I think, is too costly on the amount of spaces that we will lose on behalf of the downtown core.

986
01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:46,100
And I'm really struggling with that very much, so I really would like to hear from.

987
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:56,680
Let's turn that into a question and I'll come back to Council Crawford, so perhaps staff can advise on their feelings regarding the loss of the nine spaces and how they fit into the downtown parking question.

988
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:06,380
So there's two parts to the design they're going to result in loss of parking.

989
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:13,440
One is on second avenue where the lane enters and the current proposal is to have garbage

990
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:14,400
entry off that site.

991
01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:20,540
The previous proposal was to have all access from that site so it's likely that those stalls

992
01:16:20,540 --> 01:16:26,380
would have been lost when that on and that civil work was done anyways in the

993
01:16:26,380 --> 01:16:29,860
future even with the previous design because that would have been even more

994
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:37,060
vehicles moving through that alignment through that lane so from so the change in

995
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:41,620
the design is really resulting in a change that was happening on horn and that's

996
01:16:41,620 --> 01:16:48,500
that's the five parking stalls that would likely be lost to the the new entrance

997
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:54,460
there. The only thing I can notice that we are working on getting that parking

998
01:16:54,460 --> 01:17:00,480
study done to see what the numbers really play out and tell us about what the

999
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:05,640
parking conditions are in the downtown and staff did work with this

1000
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,540
developer to really come up with any design other than this that might have

1001
01:17:09,540 --> 01:17:15,660
worked due to the configuration of the lane. This was the only solution that

1002
01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:31,460
that was deemed viable by both staff and the developer, it's likely that a significant amount of lane would be required to be dedicated in order to facilitate all of the access off of second the way with originally proposed.

1003
01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:38,920
Thank you, so Councillor Crawford, I'll go back to you. I think we may have, I can sort

1004
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,700
of envision three options here. One is approval. One is asking, deferring it back to

1005
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:52,340
staff to ask for a sharpened pencil, and third is a flat out motion to deny. And there's

1006
01:17:52,340 --> 01:17:55,400
probably other options. I haven't thought of, but those are three that come to mind.

1007
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:56,260
What's your pleasure, sir?

1008
01:17:56,260 --> 01:17:57,160
I

1009
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:08,420
think I'd like to ask for deferral to see if there's anything that can be done regarding the parking situation.

1010
01:18:09,220 --> 01:18:13,440
So there's a motion to defer this item and it doesn't need a seconder.

1011
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:23,100
It's not debatable, but I think the question would be to ask staff to go off and focus their sharpen their pencils.

1012
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,760
So the motion is to defer until such time as that is done.

1013
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,760
Is there a timeline that you'd like this to, as it indefinite?

1014
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,100
Too much possible.

1015
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:39,100
So it's a motion, indefinite motion and ask staff to come back on a qualitative question.

1016
01:18:39,860 --> 01:18:45,500
I'll call the question then, all those in favor of the deferral, opposed, councillors

1017
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:48,660
Herr R. and Councillor Davies, what was your vote?

1018
01:18:48,820 --> 01:18:49,680
I couldn't see your hands.

1019
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:52,740
Both supported the deferral.

1020
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,520
I believe that was a seven to nothing vote.

1021
01:18:55,380 --> 01:18:57,100
unanimous on the deferral. Thank you.

1022
01:19:00,020 --> 01:19:09,580
Next is item, excuse me, 9D, 334159, Kirkpatrick Avenue for a variance there. Do we have a

1023
01:19:09,580 --> 01:19:12,460
mover? Councillor Gill moves? Comments and questions.

1024
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:21,680
Councillor Gill? Thank you, Mayor Horn. I do support this. I think I had a look at it.

1025
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:28,380
But I think this is something similar that came up very early on for a visible that

1026
01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:29,480
council supported.

1027
01:19:30,460 --> 01:19:35,820
But when I looked at the pictures that were provided, it's, I looked at it as a structure

1028
01:19:35,820 --> 01:19:40,300
that, for example, if it wasn't built, then a variance request came in, I would still support

1029
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:46,140
it because it's a very nice structure that's built, it's not really done cutting corners.

1030
01:19:46,140 --> 01:19:52,920
and second, it's not visible from the streets, it's blocked by large trees, so I don't think

1031
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,920
it's a burden to anyone, so I do support the recommendation.

1032
01:19:57,480 --> 01:19:57,820
Thank you.

1033
01:19:57,940 --> 01:20:00,200
I think I have Councillor Hamilton and Councillor Plessis.

1034
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:06,600
Thank you, and I appreciate Councillor Gil's comments, but I would just like to emphasize

1035
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:12,580
again that when work is started on a building or commence without a building permit, that's

1036
01:20:12,580 --> 01:20:21,800
That's not the way we do business, and so I appreciate that the neighbors around are supporting it and the trees are there so that it's not visible from the street.

1037
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:31,300
And I will support it, but I really, people need to know that this isn't how we do business here with building and then asking for forgiveness afterwards.

1038
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:42,240
I do support it and as indicated by Councillor Kille, it is hidden by the trees and I think there is a significant road allowance on the compatriots side of the road.

1039
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:52,700
But the thing that I was wondering is whether or not when they put in these kind of structures and not in clothes is whether or not it can be put in them that the structure cannot change if it's been given this variance.

1040
01:20:55,900 --> 01:21:01,860
It's not intended for anything other than what it was used for at this present time.

1041
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:03,700
Is that part of what requires?

1042
01:21:04,660 --> 01:21:08,880
And the variance can be made specific to this structure for this purpose.

1043
01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:15,720
And so they would need to seek another variance if they were, for instance, a plot to apply for a billing permit to enclose the structure.

1044
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:18,360
I think that would be a fair thing to do.

1045
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,940
I just think that, you know, because I think that if it's in the closed structure,

1046
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,940
it may change, the decision comes so close to the road.

1047
01:21:25,060 --> 01:21:30,060
I think it's used specifically for the park and motorhome, I believe, what I see in

1048
01:21:30,060 --> 01:21:33,280
there, and it is just a roof with the thing over.

1049
01:21:33,380 --> 01:21:38,140
It seems common, it makes logical sense for that purpose, but if it was anything other

1050
01:21:38,140 --> 01:21:41,900
than that, it may challenge us to look at it differently, proximate to the road.

1051
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:46,020
That's very good, Councillor Crawford, with the fourth comment, the next set of comments.

1052
01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:50,160
So, Mr. Pablo, are you saying that it would need some sort of staff, I'm sorry,

1053
01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:55,380
some sort of council resolution that we added a covenant that it could not be enclosed

1054
01:21:55,380 --> 01:21:57,380
without coming back to council?

1055
01:21:58,300 --> 01:22:01,280
I don't believe a covenant, a standalone covenant would be required.

1056
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:05,700
We would typically, and there's a draft of almost very much permit for approval tonight,

1057
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:11,000
a line can be added to it, making it specific that this is for this structure only.

1058
01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:15,660
And we can add the building permit number that we have today for this structure.

1059
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:17,360
and make it specific in that way.

1060
01:22:17,860 --> 01:22:18,900
And that's a pretty short untitled.

1061
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:19,740
I'm so sorry.

1062
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,700
Councillor Gilla, I believe you were the mover.

1063
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:24,800
Would you accept that as a friendly amendment that we add that, that notation?

1064
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,200
If it supports that, I'll add it.

1065
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:28,860
Thank you.

1066
01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:30,680
Councillor Crawford.

1067
01:22:31,220 --> 01:22:31,780
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

1068
01:22:33,180 --> 01:22:35,200
I won't be on the popular list tonight.

1069
01:22:35,940 --> 01:22:37,860
I want to make comments about this.

1070
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:44,900
There's a saying that goes around all the time and you hear it in town when somebody has

1071
01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:49,680
done something that they're not supposed to do in the building corner, that's usually

1072
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:50,480
without a permit.

1073
01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:54,420
And it's easier to build something now and then ask forgiveness later.

1074
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:03,840
And I don't think we're doing any favors to our staff who have to handle these types of

1075
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:10,300
things or to us as a council who have to spend time on things like this as an after fact,

1076
01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:17,840
When we have people who do build structures without permits, they just go ahead and do it.

1077
01:23:17,980 --> 01:23:22,060
And then they have to come and face the music after.

1078
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:28,020
And I don't think we do any favors to the citizens of our community when we allow it to go through.

1079
01:23:28,420 --> 01:23:35,620
Because we're really, I think, stamping it as, okay, it's all right, I guess.

1080
01:23:35,620 --> 01:23:46,320
Yes, let's go ahead and forget about it, because we're really saying, well, it's easier to build it now and come back and ask for forgiveness later.

1081
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:47,920
Thank you, Councilor.

1082
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,940
So I'll be opposing you.

1083
01:23:49,220 --> 01:23:52,720
Thank you, Councilor Crawford, Councilor Stavis, and there are any comments from you?

1084
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:54,880
No comments, ma'am.

1085
01:23:56,740 --> 01:23:58,340
I'll be supporting this tonight.

1086
01:23:58,340 --> 01:24:03,880
I understand it was built about the permit and that is definitely I agree with Councillor

1087
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,500
Hamilton. That's not how we want to be doing things. But we're also aware that we've

1088
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:14,180
done for a period of time with extremely long permit wait times and that has a significant

1089
01:24:14,180 --> 01:24:20,540
effect and it does drive the behavior of building things that shouldn't be built without permit

1090
01:24:20,540 --> 01:24:25,620
and proper procedure. So I don't expect this to become business as usual. I expect this

1091
01:24:25,620 --> 01:24:32,380
This is going to be just a one-off and it's a chance for it to be put back into the right side of things.

1092
01:24:34,510 --> 01:24:40,010
I'll speak to this one as well and say I'll be supporting it this evening. I think Councillor Hamilton has said it the best.

1093
01:24:40,530 --> 01:24:44,910
I very much agree and have the same concerns as Councillor Crawford.

1094
01:24:46,090 --> 01:24:50,630
I don't think it's an issue of somebody trying to beat the building permit times, and quite frankly,

1095
01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:55,870
I'll say that if it was I would be actually opposed to it because I don't want people to think

1096
01:24:55,870 --> 01:24:58,490
that they should do it because they don't like the building permit times.

1097
01:24:58,910 --> 01:25:00,970
We have other issues of that nature.

1098
01:25:01,610 --> 01:25:05,930
I think this is simply a person who didn't realize that they were building a structure

1099
01:25:05,930 --> 01:25:11,390
in somebody else's, in a setback, and there are other issues or other things that the

1100
01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:16,070
property owner is working on right now that I think our bigger matters.

1101
01:25:16,710 --> 01:25:21,170
And so I will support this particular variance, but the cautions that Councillor

1102
01:25:21,170 --> 01:25:25,750
Hamilton and Councillor Crawford have raised are very, very valid and I would ask

1103
01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:29,630
the community to think about the fact that it's nerve-wracking when you know you might

1104
01:25:29,630 --> 01:25:35,250
be asked to dismantle your entire structure rather than going in and asking permission

1105
01:25:35,250 --> 01:25:42,950
in advance. I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Crawford

1106
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:47,450
was opposed. Councillor Hurrah, you voted in favor. Is that correct? That's correct. Thank

1107
01:25:47,450 --> 01:25:51,030
you, the matter carries by a vote of six to one. Thank you.

1108
01:25:52,030 --> 01:25:58,070
Next is the Affordable Housing Strategy Quarterly Report, and Mr. Dickinson, are you doing a presentation

1109
01:25:58,070 --> 01:26:01,090
or are you here just to answer questions on that at this point?

1110
01:26:02,270 --> 01:26:06,110
Through Mayor Horne, I'm here mainly to answer questions this evening on this.

1111
01:26:06,610 --> 01:26:07,270
Thank you very much.

1112
01:26:07,610 --> 01:26:10,790
Questions from members of council on the Affordable Housing Strategy Update?

1113
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:12,090
Councillor Plessas.

1114
01:26:12,730 --> 01:26:19,130
Thank you for the report, and I appreciate the update where we're moving forward on our Affordable Housing Strategy.

1115
01:26:19,130 --> 01:26:24,230
The only common I have is halfway through page 154 and it's correct information.

1116
01:26:24,430 --> 01:26:26,950
Currently, 165 dwelling units are being built.

1117
01:26:27,250 --> 01:26:31,910
It'd be nice to know that we have many in the hopper which maybe right now are not being built.

1118
01:26:32,170 --> 01:26:38,010
This is the public is aware that we have got a lot of stuff we've approved or in the process of getting through that process.

1119
01:26:38,290 --> 01:26:40,170
Yet that have yet to get started building.

1120
01:26:40,430 --> 01:26:43,930
So I think that there's a larger number in process than actually being built.

1121
01:26:44,370 --> 01:26:45,950
Nice to hear that number as well.

1122
01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:52,250
So Mr. Dickinson, you've recently told us this number but it was at a meeting that probably wasn't watched by very many people.

1123
01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:57,590
Do you want to, do you remember your numbers at the top of your head where they, I know you had a mid-range and a high-range,

1124
01:26:58,050 --> 01:27:01,410
where are we in terms of units being in the pipeline?

1125
01:27:02,130 --> 01:27:07,090
In terms of the total numbers, and that's something that's a little easier for me to remember.

1126
01:27:07,250 --> 01:27:14,310
It's approximately 3,000 apartment units at our various stages of the approval process that includes

1127
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:22,230
under construction and approximately 1,000 townhouse units that are somewhere within that range.

1128
01:27:23,170 --> 01:27:36,870
And looking at the high, low and medium scenarios, I think we can expect that even at the lowest we're going to be seeing at least 1,000 to 1,500 units over the next four or five years.

1129
01:27:39,930 --> 01:28:06,850
I'll speak more to the, I'll speak briefly here and more when you get to the one that I have a notice of motion on, but one of the things that I want us as a council and a community to think about is providing a very dexterous tool for dealing with affordable housing as we saw when we saw the report affordable housing doesn't mean one price point, it means different ways for people to buy a home, it means being able to live within the same community as you need to go out and

1130
01:28:06,850 --> 01:28:12,210
to expand or downsize, it means providing supportive housing for people who have those needs.

1131
01:28:13,050 --> 01:28:17,750
So at an earlier point in the year after we had had a workshop on this subject, I provided

1132
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:24,090
staff with one potential matrix or a way of evaluating applications based on a whole host

1133
01:28:24,090 --> 01:28:24,710
of criteria.

1134
01:28:25,490 --> 01:28:32,650
One criteria on I want a particularity point to is when employers, sorry, when developers

1135
01:28:32,650 --> 01:28:58,830
In other words, come to us and they say that they're willing to work with an established not-for-profit society, a Mackle, a Sarah, an MCSS, a lookout, and know that they will be able through the use of that partnership to deliver housing that hits the targeted market, and that might be associated with outreach or in-reach services that will have ongoing monitoring, and doesn't make the city have to be responsible for that, all of those are assets.

1136
01:28:58,830 --> 01:29:12,530
And so, when we talk about those, I think the low range was 1100 units that was in the last projection, that 1100 units is an opportunity for us to be doing more.

1137
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:15,950
And I'm sort of saying what I was going to say later on.

1138
01:29:16,250 --> 01:29:24,590
But I do think it's incredibly important when we talk about one of the strategy 1.1 hiring a social housing coordinator.

1139
01:29:24,590 --> 01:29:30,930
I am extremely eager for us to fill that position and extremely eager for that person to give

1140
01:29:30,930 --> 01:29:40,870
us a very creative, multi-approach policy that lets us take advantage of lots of ways

1141
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:45,690
of meeting affordable housing needs, including partnering with not-for-profits.

1142
01:29:46,410 --> 01:29:50,670
So I'm very eager to see us move on that particular one especially.

1143
01:29:51,530 --> 01:29:57,530
Just having housing stock out there is not on its own a guarantee that it will remain affordable.

1144
01:29:58,330 --> 01:29:59,970
And I think Councillor Crawford has spoken-

1145
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,200
And eloquently about a couple of things in the past. First is that a lot of the time what we're getting are single family, sorry, single broom apartments. And second is the fact that these are going to have a window where they close. And we sort of presume that they'll all that we'll have 20 years of stock. And then the next you'll have another 20 years of stock. But the truth is we might see booms and busts. And I'm worried that at the end of 20 years without a strategy and a coordinator to think in the long,

1146
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:34,360
long, longitude in a way that we're going to end up with a whole bowl of people who find

1147
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:39,920
themselves being hit with a strong, a major increase in their rent.

1148
01:30:40,420 --> 01:30:43,580
So that will be a key priority for us, is that person?

1149
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,060
Any other comments from members of council?

1150
01:30:46,180 --> 01:30:48,980
This is just for information at this point.

1151
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,280
Okay, so resolution to rise and report would be in order.

1152
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,160
Please move by Councillor Hamilton.

1153
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,900
All those in favor?

1154
01:30:57,500 --> 01:30:58,340
Opposed, it's carried.

1155
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,020
Now, we were not easy tonight.

1156
01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:06,980
So, we are going to do our committee of the whole report in multiple stages.

1157
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,980
So, we have, let's see here.

1158
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,220
I'm almost tempted just to go through them all individually here.

1159
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:23,560
So, we will deal with, let's see here, we have two items, three items where we had consensus.

1160
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:44,000
Justice? No, I'm wrong. Four, I apologize. So the committee, the whole report where we have unanimity is the UBCM Community Emergency Preparedness Fund, RCMP Letter of Approval, Briskum Street Development Application, and the deferral of the Horn Street Application.

1161
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:51,060
On those we had all seven in favor, moved Councillor Gill, second in Councillor Plexus.

1162
01:31:51,820 --> 01:31:56,620
All those in favour? Opposed? Councillor Gill and Councillor, sorry, Councillor

1163
01:31:56,620 --> 01:31:58,400
Harar and Councillor Davies, you were in favour?

1164
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:01,340
Yes.

1165
01:32:03,380 --> 01:32:03,960
Thank you.

1166
01:32:04,660 --> 01:32:09,160
Now we'll go through the ones where there were exceptions. The first is the waterfront revitalization

1167
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:13,680
master plan. Councillor Harar voted against this in committee. I need a mover, please.

1168
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:19,440
Councillor Flecketh, seconded by Councillor Gil. I'll call the question. All those in favor?

1169
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:25,720
Opposed? Councillor Hurrah remains opposed, but the matter carries by a vote of 6-1.

1170
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:35,800
Next one is Council remuneration, specifically on the subject of the mayor's salary at 96,000.

1171
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:41,080
I'll call this one. All those in—oh, sorry, I need a mover. Councillor Hamilton, seconded,

1172
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:47,440
Councillor Crawford. All those in favour? Opposed? Councillor Gilles opposed the

1173
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:54,440
matter carry 6 to 1. Now Councillor Salaries which would be 50% of 96, 491. I need a

1174
01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:57,600
mover. There were two people who were opposed before they were Councillor Gilles and Councillor

1175
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:04,320
Harar. Councillor Plessis moves that. Councillor Crawford seconds it. All those in favour? Opposed?

1176
01:33:04,540 --> 01:33:09,380
Councillor Gilles, Councillor Harar opposed the matter carries by a vote of 5 to 2. Development

1177
01:33:09,380 --> 01:33:13,260
What about the application moving to public hearing, first and second reading at Hazel Street,

1178
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,200
8241? This was originally opposed by our two online participants, Councillor

1179
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:23,200
Davies and Herr R. A mover, please. Councillor Plective, seconded by Councillor

1180
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:27,560
Crawford. Did I see Councillor Crawford? All those in favor? Opposed?

1181
01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:32,340
Councillor Davies and Herr R. Opposed, the matter carries by a five to two vote.

1182
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:42,900
Okay. So it now passes by a four to three vote. And now we move to the development

1183
01:33:42,900 --> 01:33:49,780
variance permit, Kirkpatrick Avenue. Here Councillor Crawford was opposed. This is the variance

1184
01:33:49,780 --> 01:33:55,540
on the setback for the RV garage. Move her please. Councillor Gill, Councillor Hamilton.

1185
01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:01,340
and I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Crawford's opposed.

1186
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,780
Councillor Hurrah, were you opposed or were you in favor? I wasn't sure.

1187
01:34:06,420 --> 01:34:12,280
In favor. Thank you. The matter carries by about a 6 to 1. I believe that's everything that was in our committee.

1188
01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:16,380
The whole report is that, right, Ms. Russell? Thank you. I'll give that back to you later on.

1189
01:34:16,900 --> 01:34:22,240
If you use it correctly, I think you can also unlock a couple of things in the Indiana temple of doom.

1190
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,140
and that's how many complexities there are in that.

1191
01:34:25,220 --> 01:34:28,880
All right, we'll move on to by-laws if we are,

1192
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,420
if I'm in the right place here, stick with me.

1193
01:34:31,820 --> 01:34:33,300
No, we cannot move on to by-laws.

1194
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,780
Council committee reports and minutes,

1195
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,820
there is a set of minutes from the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee,

1196
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:43,280
and any comments from members of council?

1197
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:44,440
I do.

1198
01:34:45,180 --> 01:34:45,920
Councilor Davies.

1199
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:47,360
Thank you, Mr. Warrick.

1200
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,520
I have a question regarding the correspondence and emails,

1201
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:00,420
I was wondering if any community engagement or what sort of community engagement had

1202
01:35:00,420 --> 01:35:03,560
be done on that or whether that was something that still needed to be done?

1203
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:14,400
Through to our Director of Parks and Recreation, not sure whether or not that item has gone to staff

1204
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:20,800
It was received by the committee, but I don't think it is, there's no recommendation

1205
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,980
from staff here to bring it to, from the committee to bring it to Council.

1206
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:32,280
Yes, so basically we would wait for a council to adopt the minutes and then we would move on

1207
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,040
any motions that came out of the committee, so.

1208
01:35:34,180 --> 01:35:37,240
We're not being asked to approve these minutes, we're being asked to receive these minutes

1209
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,400
correct, so there's no approval process.

1210
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,220
I guess what I would say is this, and this is something I've been harping on.

1211
01:35:43,220 --> 01:35:46,160
So, advisory committees need to give us recommendations.

1212
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,380
What are they asking us to do as a next step?

1213
01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:53,400
So, Councillor Davies, I would ask that we perhaps give them back a question and say,

1214
01:35:53,580 --> 01:35:54,860
what would they like us to do with this?

1215
01:35:56,460 --> 01:36:03,920
Uh, yeah, I guess that would be my question, because I think Jay Porton is in parks, so is

1216
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:05,780
that something that parks is working on?

1217
01:36:06,140 --> 01:36:10,580
Is it, and if it is, it really is a question for parks?

1218
01:36:10,580 --> 01:36:18,200
I think as we heard recently, it's not land we own, so that kind of changes the dynamic

1219
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:22,720
considerably. I think it's part of our waterfront master plan already, and so as we know,

1220
01:36:22,820 --> 01:36:28,340
the waterfront revitalization master plan will stipulate how the public might have some

1221
01:36:28,340 --> 01:36:34,180
land go into the public pool as it develops as part of density, bonusing, or swapping

1222
01:36:34,180 --> 01:36:39,340
or acquisition in some other way. So it's a bit of a moot question, because unless

1223
01:36:39,340 --> 01:36:46,900
that's Council wants to buy it for that purpose, which would be quite contrary to the very plan we've already adopted this evening.

1224
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:55,200
So, yeah, I guess it may be that what the message has been sent there in that committee then is out of sync with waterfront and that should be corrected.

1225
01:36:55,660 --> 01:37:00,800
I think it's simply a matter of staff clarifying back to the committee why that might not be the best location.

1226
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,860
And if they wish for us to investigate dog park locations, that's a question they should advise us on.

1227
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:10,040
So I think I see staff acknowledging that, thank you.

1228
01:37:10,580 --> 01:37:11,860
Other comments from these minutes?

1229
01:37:13,260 --> 01:37:18,300
I'll simply acknowledge that the business arising,

1230
01:37:18,420 --> 01:37:24,240
Fraser River Heritage Park really appreciated the fact that our first nations were

1231
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:28,380
collaboratively with us and spoke to it on Canada Day to make sure that our return to the park

1232
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:33,340
was a very successful event and very much in line with what this committee discussed.

1233
01:37:33,340 --> 01:37:40,080
So thank you. Okay? We'll move that on to council meeting minutes for approval. We have three sets for approval.

1234
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,260
These are all beginning page 162. Do I have a mover for approval of these minutes?

1235
01:37:45,740 --> 01:37:52,960
Councillor Fleckas, seconded by Councillor Crawford. All those in favour? Opposed? It's carried. Thank you.

1236
01:37:53,980 --> 01:37:59,300
Now we get to go into by-laws. If I can find my page, page 190.

1237
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:05,140
Okay, so we start off with first and second reading on Briskham Street.

1238
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:07,620
This was approved in committee.

1239
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:13,860
Do I have a mover, Councillor Plexus, seconded by Councillor Crawford.

1240
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,560
All those in favor?

1241
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:17,660
Opposed?

1242
01:38:18,340 --> 01:38:19,360
It's carried unanimously.

1243
01:38:19,660 --> 01:38:20,180
Thank you, folks.

1244
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,660
Please make sure your hands are up for a few seconds longer.

1245
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:27,420
I have to look at the TV and at the chambers.

1246
01:38:27,420 --> 01:38:34,960
Next is first and second reading for 8241 Hazel Crescent to have a mover on this one, Councillor

1247
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:45,180
Crawford, seconded by Councillor Plessis. All those in favor? Opposed? Councillor Gill,

1248
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,880
Harrah, Davies, opposed. The matter carries by a vote of 4-3 and we'll go to public hearing.

1249
01:38:50,580 --> 01:38:58,760
Next is the Park Dedication on Donatelli Avenue, mover please, Councillor Hamilton, seconded

1250
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:04,380
by Councillor Gill, comments or questions? All those in favor? Opposed? It's carried

1251
01:39:04,380 --> 01:39:09,600
unanimously. Thank you. Next is third reading for a matter we had before the public hearing.

1252
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:16,140
It's 7680 Heard Street. Do I have a mover? Moved Councillor Crawford, seconded by Councillor

1253
01:39:16,140 --> 01:39:18,780
Councillor Placcus, comments or questions from members of council?

1254
01:39:19,980 --> 01:39:20,600
Councillor Gill?

1255
01:39:22,140 --> 01:39:27,700
Thank you, Mayor Hone, I do support this, but my question is in these role homes, we don't

1256
01:39:27,700 --> 01:39:29,120
allow basements if I'm correct.

1257
01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:31,400
Is there going to be, is that correct?

1258
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,040
Basements are basements sweet.

1259
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:34,840
Are basements sweet?

1260
01:39:35,900 --> 01:39:37,620
That's right, basements sweetes are not permitted.

1261
01:39:38,700 --> 01:39:42,000
I was looking at the plans, it looked like it's almost set up for a suite.

1262
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,260
Is it going to be on the title or the covenant?

1263
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:52,680
It's not unusual for us to look at building plans and be suspicious that a structure might be converted into a suite later.

1264
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,840
However, when it's not indicating, we're obligated to approve the plans the way they are.

1265
01:39:58,940 --> 01:40:02,040
It simply becomes a potential by-law enforcement issue in the future.

1266
01:40:02,540 --> 01:40:02,620
Okay.

1267
01:40:03,700 --> 01:40:06,020
Thank you, any weather else before we vote on this one?

1268
01:40:06,340 --> 01:40:08,060
I'll call the question then, all those in favor?

1269
01:40:09,220 --> 01:40:12,380
Opposed, it carries by a seven to nothing vote, thank you.

1270
01:40:12,380 --> 01:40:16,580
Next, we'll do the other matter that was in the public hearing tonight, Cherry Avenue.

1271
01:40:17,500 --> 01:40:18,620
A mover, please.

1272
01:40:19,180 --> 01:40:22,280
Councillor Hamilton, seconded by Councillor Crawford.

1273
01:40:22,820 --> 01:40:24,060
Comments or questions on this one?

1274
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,040
Seeing none, I'll call the question.

1275
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:27,800
All those in favor?

1276
01:40:28,660 --> 01:40:29,040
Opposed?

1277
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:35,460
It's carried unanimously, seven to none, and then we'll move on to adoption of a matter that

1278
01:40:35,460 --> 01:40:37,560
is from 2018.

1279
01:40:38,220 --> 01:40:46,080
This is a property in Hatsecaria along Lohid Highway, item F, moved by Councilor Plekis,

1280
01:40:46,260 --> 01:40:50,720
seconded by Councillor Gill. Any comments or questions on this one?

1281
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:57,580
I do have a question on this one, and it's well before my time, but looking at staff notes,

1282
01:40:57,740 --> 01:41:03,300
there was some question about preserving at least artifact from the site, and I wondered,

1283
01:41:03,300 --> 01:41:10,160
Mr. Pueblo, do you know whether or not anybody actually did go in and were able to actually extract some of those heritage items from the old

1284
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:10,980
Catholic word house?

1285
01:41:14,060 --> 01:41:16,000
Oh, sorry, from the Catholic word house.

1286
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:17,420
Yes, that's that property.

1287
01:41:18,980 --> 01:41:22,610
A property in the Catholic word.

1288
01:41:22,710 --> 01:41:26,330
I don't remember whether that occurred or not at this point in time.

1289
01:41:27,070 --> 01:41:29,850
Councillor Crawford, it looks like you may know this if your heritage commission were.

1290
01:41:30,590 --> 01:41:31,490
Excuse me, ma'am.

1291
01:41:31,490 --> 01:41:42,030
Yes, I do know that the contractor or the developer was eager to help and I know there was records made on pictures and such.

1292
01:41:42,110 --> 01:41:50,570
And I know he made the offer of anyone interested in coming over and looking at artifacts to save.

1293
01:41:50,810 --> 01:41:57,230
So I don't know if it happened, but the offers were there and all done accordingly.

1294
01:41:57,230 --> 01:42:02,270
Okay. Thank you. Any other comments? I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed?

1295
01:42:02,690 --> 01:42:09,150
It's carried unanimously. Thank you. Moving on to the OCP by the adoption of the Waterfront

1296
01:42:09,150 --> 01:42:14,550
Revitalization Master Plan. Now, just to be clear, this is adoption of the text

1297
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:20,770
amendment that was given third reading two weeks ago. Moved by Councillor Plecus. Seconded by.

1298
01:42:20,770 --> 01:42:27,070
by? Councillor Hamilton, comments or questions? Seeing none, I'll call the question. All those

1299
01:42:27,070 --> 01:42:33,270
in favour? Opposed? Councillor Harar is opposed. The matter carries 6 to 1. Thank you.

1300
01:42:33,810 --> 01:42:40,730
Next is adoption of the consumption of liquor and public places. Bylaw, mover, please or Councillor

1301
01:42:40,730 --> 01:42:46,670
Gill, second and Councillor Crawford, comments or questions? Do you want to point out to folks

1302
01:42:46,670 --> 01:42:53,510
that the newspaper has pointed out or has said that this is legal already, but I'll

1303
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:58,090
go to staff and say, ask them, when do you think you'll be able to have things

1304
01:42:58,090 --> 01:43:03,410
like signs and so forth install? It's not officially, it will be enforced tonight

1305
01:43:03,410 --> 01:43:06,330
after this is adopted, but there's a rollout period.

1306
01:43:07,490 --> 01:43:08,610
Yes, your worship.

1307
01:43:09,470 --> 01:43:14,350
What needs to roll out is we need to get the signs, design the signs, get them ordered,

1308
01:43:14,350 --> 01:43:20,550
get some places set up in the park, although the, although the bylaws in place, we wouldn't expect it to be, you know,

1309
01:43:20,690 --> 01:43:28,530
ready to go until those signs, and we did promise to bring those signs back to Council prior to installation in the park and identify where in the park they will be

1310
01:43:30,530 --> 01:43:30,970
erected.

1311
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:34,770
I'm not 100% sure we should be adopting the bylaw in this evening.

1312
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:42,950
To be honest with you, I think that we should probably be holding off an adoption until such time as we're actually able to go ahead.

1313
01:43:42,950 --> 01:43:48,210
Otherwise, we put bylaws and others in a difficult position, what's the date we start

1314
01:43:48,210 --> 01:43:50,210
doing the pilot project assessment?

1315
01:43:50,870 --> 01:43:56,130
If we do a quote-unquote soft launch and people are out there and there's no clear delineation,

1316
01:43:56,410 --> 01:43:57,690
I'm concerned about that.

1317
01:43:57,990 --> 01:44:04,490
So I'm going to actually move deferral on this one until we have seen an implementation strategy

1318
01:44:04,490 --> 01:44:06,010
with some signs.

1319
01:44:06,630 --> 01:44:10,190
So I've moved deferral already and I'll call the question on the deferral.

1320
01:44:10,190 --> 01:44:16,870
all those in favor of deferral? Opposed? It's Councillor Harar, are you in favor of

1321
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:18,470
deferral? Yes.

1322
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:23,430
Thank you. So deferral is carried seven to none. So we'll get a word back from staff hopefully

1323
01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:34,150
sooner than later. Thank you. Moving on to adoption of the the the steps of vision control

1324
01:44:34,150 --> 01:44:39,290
bylaw. These are the street cross sections. Councillor Hamilton, I know this one is probably

1325
01:44:39,290 --> 01:44:39,970
one you don't want.

1326
01:44:39,970 --> 01:44:40,610
I'm here to my heart.

1327
01:44:40,810 --> 01:44:41,950
Yep, so we'll move that one.

1328
01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:46,390
Councillor Hamilton moves, seconded by, Councillor Crawford, comments or questions.

1329
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:47,690
All those in favour?

1330
01:44:48,910 --> 01:44:49,310
Opposed?

1331
01:44:49,470 --> 01:44:50,230
It's carried unanimously.

1332
01:44:50,650 --> 01:44:51,050
Thank you.

1333
01:44:51,470 --> 01:44:52,530
Permits for consideration.

1334
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:58,250
There was a motion to defer already on Horn Street, so we do not need to deal with that

1335
01:44:58,250 --> 01:44:58,370
one.

1336
01:44:58,470 --> 01:44:59,230
Correct, Ms. Russell.

1337
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:29,040
Next is Kirkpatrick. This one was dealt with at Council, a committee, but we'll vote on it here. This is for the variance. Move, Councillor Plessis, seconded by Councillor Hamilton. All those in favor of the variance? Opposed? Councillor, Councillor Crawford, opposed? The matter carries by a vote of 6 to 1. And we'll move on to resolutions released from closed unless our Council comments. Those are already, those are for public consumption.

1338
01:45:29,500 --> 01:45:34,820
and we'll move on to new on other business council member updates starting with our online

1339
01:45:34,820 --> 01:45:38,620
participants to make it easier here. Councillor Davies, do you have anything you'd like

1340
01:45:38,620 --> 01:45:46,360
to report? Thank you very much for being with us, even though you are with the sick family,

1341
01:45:46,460 --> 01:45:50,140
Councillor Hark, anything you'd like to report? Yeah, nothing to report, thank you.

1342
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:54,800
Other than your nuptials? Yes, yes, thank you. Thank you for all of coming. Appreciate

1343
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,100
Thank you.

1344
01:45:56,380 --> 01:46:01,060
And we'll move from our right all the way to our left and I'll go to Councillor Gile first tonight.

1345
01:46:01,700 --> 01:46:02,640
I thank you, Mayor Horn.

1346
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:11,720
I guess the first event I attended was the Rotary Insulation Dinner for incoming presidents for midday and morning day club.

1347
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:17,520
And the second event was the Canada Day event, which was phenomenal.

1348
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:22,960
I think we had great speakers, including Darrell McCamey and yourself.

1349
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:35,140
And myself and Councillor Placcus got to serve the cake and I feel bad for anyone that got cake from Councillor Placcus because his hands were all in it.

1350
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:42,260
Councillor Placcus was a building service technician, not a cook. I just want to point that out.

1351
01:46:43,300 --> 01:46:45,900
Okay, excellent. Thank you, Councillor Gil. Councillor Placcus.

1352
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:48,560
Yeah, thank you, and I just want to pass on a couple things.

1353
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,320
First of all, I appreciate the Ken Day event.

1354
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,700
It was well attended, and I think it was well-run.

1355
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,620
I think our contractor, John McBride, did a great job.

1356
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:02,600
The other things I want to briefly touch on is I attended three AGMs in the last week and a half.

1357
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,900
And I just want to report on Mission Environmental Stewardship Society.

1358
01:47:06,780 --> 01:47:11,420
They've had 850 people participate in there over the year, and

1359
01:47:11,420 --> 01:47:13,980
they've collected 20,000 pounds of debris.

1360
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:19,260
and they wanted to thank the District of Mission Public Works for supporting them and removing that stuff.

1361
01:47:19,860 --> 01:47:26,160
I think they have a new youth club called the Little Buster's Club, which also goes on a canoe trip twice in the summer.

1362
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,720
And I have to say they are a very good, well-run organization.

1363
01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:34,900
The other thing I want to report on, they attended Mass AGM as well.

1364
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,080
And they are full up on all three of their facilities.

1365
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:42,080
These are got weighting less than the seeders and seeder men as well as Walton Towers and

1366
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:43,800
a game they're running very smoothly.

1367
01:47:44,420 --> 01:47:49,160
That goes the same to save with the Pleasant View Society as well, doing a very good job

1368
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:51,020
and things going very well with the society.

1369
01:47:51,780 --> 01:47:57,040
The only other thing I have to report on is that the library, we have some reading club and

1370
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:02,700
I attended their workshop last week and we talked about a lot of things and they've got a

1371
01:48:02,700 --> 01:48:05,680
lot of exciting things planned for the coming year.

1372
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:12,240
As you know, we have our program, we have our disc, not discovery program or a program for

1373
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:17,360
you can take out things in the, in the, are the library and we're going to add to that collection.

1374
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:23,500
So as I've taken up binoculars or, uh, bat pack packs or bird pack packs, they're going to add some things to it.

1375
01:48:23,580 --> 01:48:25,720
They're going to surprise us new in, in the, in the fall.

1376
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:30,460
And so other than that, I would just remind people to, uh, join the reading club this summer.

1377
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,900
It's for all ages from five to all the way up.

1378
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:34,220
Thank you very much.

1379
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:35,460
Councillor Hamilton.

1380
01:48:35,780 --> 01:48:36,380
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

1381
01:48:36,500 --> 01:48:41,320
I just want to thank all of the residents of mission who have participated in participation

1382
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:46,540
and I don't think we know yet where we stand as far as ranking goes, but it was a lot

1383
01:48:46,540 --> 01:48:52,100
of fun as a community we all got together and participated and I just want to make a comment

1384
01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:57,180
about calendar day and for me sitting there I just reflected on how our community has changed

1385
01:48:57,180 --> 01:49:01,700
and the number of young families that are now in our community and the diversity of our

1386
01:49:01,700 --> 01:49:08,580
community. We truly are, in my opinion, a multicultural city with, you know, what I saw

1387
01:49:08,580 --> 01:49:14,580
at the park on Canada Day, and so it was a great event, and I thank Joanna for organizing

1388
01:49:14,580 --> 01:49:17,840
it. And, yeah, those are my comments. Thank you.

1389
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:27,440
Thank you very much. And Councillor Crawford. Certainly is a GM season. I attended three also,

1390
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:33,940
Also one with Councillor Plessas, and one with the Mission Community Services Society,

1391
01:49:34,740 --> 01:49:41,100
Roger Doaker is a chair there, and also with the Mission Community Futures North Fraser,

1392
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:47,600
with Heather O'Coin as a chair, and all of them are doing well.

1393
01:49:48,020 --> 01:49:54,800
And I also witnessed Councillor Gail serving pancakes for a couple of hours on Canada Day,

1394
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,020
So he had his fingers in the pancakes also.

1395
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,780
So both those Councillors over there were.

1396
01:50:03,480 --> 01:50:05,800
I wouldn't play in with your food only in my pancakes.

1397
01:50:09,180 --> 01:50:11,180
Thank you very much, Councillor Crawford.

1398
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,680
I want to acknowledge Councillor Harar for inviting us to his wedding.

1399
01:50:16,420 --> 01:50:21,840
The good news I found out that our energy crisis will be completely satisfied

1400
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:29,600
by the fact that all of the heating, all the heat that was in the Hatsick Prairie Hall will be preserved and we will be able to use it through the winter.

1401
01:50:30,260 --> 01:50:32,020
Excellent. It was warm in their councilor Hurrah.

1402
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:33,300
Yeah, it sure was.

1403
01:50:33,780 --> 01:50:37,540
Canada Day, again, I want to echo what others have said.

1404
01:50:37,940 --> 01:50:49,760
And what I want to particularly reflect on today is how much the event was built into having an opportunity for diversity and for First Nations inclusion.

1405
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:56,700
I was the MC and one after another I started to introduce acts thinking about where geographically

1406
01:50:56,700 --> 01:51:02,720
the dance or singing or martial art that we were observing had originated and we truly did have

1407
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:09,560
representation from all across the world including I don't know if you saw it or not but there was

1408
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:15,660
a mum during the ceremony who was in tears watching her children dancing and doing the the warrior

1409
01:51:15,660 --> 01:51:21,260
dance and other dances during the opening ceremonies. It was very touching. It was also really

1410
01:51:21,260 --> 01:51:26,780
remarkable. I didn't get a chance to go next door, unfortunately, but the powwow returning

1411
01:51:26,780 --> 01:51:32,720
to the Pecuelis lands, this former St. Mary's institution, and apparently adding a third

1412
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:37,760
day because things were that successful. And it was all in the spirit of empowering youth.

1413
01:51:38,220 --> 01:51:44,840
So it was very, very important to people who don't understand that powwows were outlawed

1414
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:50,820
by colonial policies lost in being recaptured is a big deal.

1415
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:52,140
It's a very big deal.

1416
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,820
And so for that to be going on,

1417
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:56,400
I wish I had been able to be there.

1418
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,740
I look forward to them having more so that I can go.

1419
01:51:59,780 --> 01:52:02,140
I also wanted to acknowledge a meeting that we had here,

1420
01:52:02,180 --> 01:52:03,020
and it was a public meeting,

1421
01:52:03,020 --> 01:52:04,920
but it was during the day and a lot of folks

1422
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,460
might not have otherwise been able to see it.

1423
01:52:06,460 --> 01:52:08,600
We want to thank Fraser Health Authority

1424
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,860
for sending us folks from their admin team,

1425
01:52:11,860 --> 01:52:16,840
as well as having the Division of Family Practice and Math here and having a very good

1426
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:21,000
conversation about our healthcare future moving forward and you'll see a notice of motion

1427
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:27,200
that comes out of that in a moment. I was also able to be down at the racetrack on July 2nd

1428
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:32,240
and luckily they were able to get everything done because the rain rained the moment on July 3rd.

1429
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:38,000
It was the 10th avenue door wars and they had over 200 cars including people coming from all over

1430
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:44,080
North America to participate and a number of mission kids participated in the

1431
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:49,800
GBS junior dragsters. It's a very family event and these kids do a lot of work.

1432
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:53,480
They had traveled recently to Edmonton and come back. Some of them hadn't been

1433
01:52:53,480 --> 01:52:56,740
home for more than a week. They've been, they come home for an hour and then

1434
01:52:56,740 --> 01:53:01,100
started racing again. So it's a big, it's a big family thing down there and it was

1435
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:05,800
great to be a part of it. I also had a chance to attend two strategic planning

1436
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,680
planning sessions. The first was around our community wellness strategy.

1437
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:16,280
I look forward to Council being involved in more of that MHCC planning and looking at our needs moving forward around health and wellness in our community.

1438
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:30,360
And I was able to sit as part of the mission food table planning and I know some of Council was upstairs that same day at the penny doing the community conversation while I was downstairs in a food conversation.

1439
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:31,540
Unfortunately, it was a food conversation.

1440
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,660
Didn't have food at the food conversation,

1441
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,740
and I did point that out to you.

1442
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:36,600
It was a bit of irony.

1443
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,300
Okay, so that was, I thought I'd productive last couple

1444
01:53:40,300 --> 01:53:40,720
of weeks.

1445
01:53:42,180 --> 01:53:43,900
Okay, thank you for those updates.

1446
01:53:43,900 --> 01:53:45,900
We'll move on now to two notices of motion.

1447
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:47,680
It happened to be both from me this evening.

1448
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:49,840
The first one is the healthcare planning symposium.

1449
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,220
Is there a seconder for the motion?

1450
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,680
Councilor Plexus, I think this motion

1451
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,840
was really the theme of our conversation

1452
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:58,420
with Fraser Health that day,

1453
01:53:58,420 --> 01:54:17,760
But we didn't have enforce a specific motion behind the suggestion, and that's what this is aiming to do, specifically to ask Fraser how to engage in this process, as well as to work towards a plan that would go into the future, presumably five to 10 years into the future and be renewable from that point forward.

1454
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,300
Any comments or questions from members of council? Councilor Gill.

1455
01:54:21,300 --> 01:54:25,540
Thank you, Mayor Horn, I do support the notice of motion that you have put forward.

1456
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:30,620
Just a question I have is, will we be inviting our MLA's?

1457
01:54:31,140 --> 01:54:39,480
And then the second part of the question is, can Fraser Health commit to any funding without approvals from the province?

1458
01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:43,220
Thank you, so those two questions are perfectly go hand in hand.

1459
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:48,400
I spoke with our MLA's and I think the initial meeting that we would have would be focused on

1460
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:55,140
an apolitical approach to understanding missions needs, it would involve members of the health care and social services community.

1461
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:59,520
And I think that's in line with the wishes of our MLA, so it would then be looped in and

1462
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:05,940
involved at later stages, which leads to the question you asked about a partnership that might involve the city,

1463
01:55:06,380 --> 01:55:10,280
might involve hospital district, might involve funding that comes through other sources,

1464
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:15,120
such as we're seeing with our CT scanner, as well as might be in a request to the province.

1465
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,700
So keeping them in the loop will be very important.

1466
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:25,760
But at this first meeting, the idea would be to have health care people be in the room talking about what their experiences in our area.

1467
01:55:26,140 --> 01:55:33,480
What isn't defined is what we mean by our area, and I think it was part of our consensus that we'd be open to it being more than missions boundaries.

1468
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:37,920
For example, we know that we serve a lot of people who live in the electoral areas to our east.

1469
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:44,800
So, I don't think we're strictly speaking about missions, hard boundaries, but about the population area that we serve.

1470
01:55:45,780 --> 01:55:47,000
Any other comments or questions?

1471
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:48,640
I'll call the question.

1472
01:55:48,740 --> 01:55:49,500
Then all those in favor?

1473
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:50,640
Opposed?

1474
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:51,120
It's carried.

1475
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:51,640
Thank you.

1476
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:54,160
Next is the other notice of motion for me.

1477
01:55:55,700 --> 01:55:57,260
Is there a second for the motion?

1478
01:55:57,740 --> 01:55:58,460
Councillor Gile.

1479
01:56:00,140 --> 01:56:03,000
As I mentioned earlier, as we heard the Affordable Housing Strategy,

1480
01:56:03,300 --> 01:56:06,580
when we get a social housing coordinator and our planning department,

1481
01:56:06,580 --> 01:56:12,900
Presumably, Mr. Dickinson and Cheryl to be able to work together to give us a policy that will be

1482
01:56:12,900 --> 01:56:19,940
Creative the Nage Island looking at possibilities. So the idea here is simply to empower staff to bring us things that might

1483
01:56:19,940 --> 01:56:28,420
Be creative in the in the meantime. So if somebody comes, for example, and says they want to put a sizable amount of money into a pool for

1484
01:56:28,420 --> 01:56:34,000
Housing fund as opposed to actually building it. There are a lot of reasons why that might be a good idea

1485
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:38,000
We might be able to actually make a dollar to go a lot further in a residential neighborhood

1486
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:42,800
for example, as opposed to just building on more apartments or all being concentrated one neighborhood.

1487
01:56:43,340 --> 01:56:46,140
As we've also heard from a number of other community groups,

1488
01:56:46,460 --> 01:56:50,800
people are interested in things like adding to our medical clinic space.

1489
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,740
We heard that from our Division of Family Practice.

1490
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:59,120
Daycares, spaces for literacy organizations, for organizations focused on diversity or youth.

1491
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:03,680
So there are a lot of different places where we could actually meet needs by dealing

1492
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:09,420
with developers who want to have a higher floor space ratio, and I think this gives us a bit

1493
01:57:09,420 --> 01:57:14,600
of an opportunity to hear them as they come before us and perhaps even to inform our policy

1494
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:20,240
as it's created. Comments from other members of council? I'll call the question. All those in

1495
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:28,160
favour? Sorry, Councillor Davies, was that you? It is, yes. Thank you. So my question on this one

1496
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:41,180
Is this just for social needs items or is there flexibility in staff that bring other items such, if it was a delegation for lacrosse, for example, and something along that line came up, would that be supported as well?

1497
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:50,420
significant the final bullet point is meant to capture things like that significant opportunities for addressing other strategic needs that have identified by the city.

1498
01:57:50,940 --> 01:57:56,520
Let's say for example that somebody came along and said they wanted to build a length of experience the Fraser Trail.

1499
01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:00,520
That would be an example that we might entertain, I think, with this policy.

1500
01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:09,240
If it's in our strategic planning, UMP, TMP, trails and parks, then I think it would be part of what staff would be empowered to consider.

1501
01:58:09,660 --> 01:58:16,640
It would be still important for staff to be able to get, I'll put it in simple terms, a good deal before coming to Council.

1502
01:58:17,180 --> 01:58:20,960
But that's what it would be, but be an example of something we might hear as a result of this.

1503
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:27,040
Great. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that if it was broad, that we were just specifying that really clearly.

1504
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:28,000
So that's great.

1505
01:58:29,180 --> 01:58:33,300
Any further questions from staff? Does that fit with the staff's understanding of the motion?

1506
01:58:34,420 --> 01:58:36,720
Yes, it drives with my understanding.

1507
01:58:37,260 --> 01:58:37,340
Thank you.

1508
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:42,480
Yeah, I'll call the question then. All those in favor? Opposed? It's carried unanimously. Thank you.

1509
01:58:42,980 --> 01:58:48,360
Question period. So, matters arising from the agenda other than those in the closed public hearings.

1510
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:53,560
If you have a matter to bring to our attention raised from the agenda this evening, please let us know

1511
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:57,460
and you can either do it by, we don't have anybody online anymore, correct, Ms. Russell?

1512
01:58:58,340 --> 01:59:01,300
So, if you are in chambers and wish to ask a question, this is your opportunity.

1513
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:08,060
Seeing nobody approving, approaching the microphone, I will ask for a motion to adjourn.

1514
01:59:08,780 --> 01:59:14,180
Councillor Hamilton, Councillor Plexus, motion to adjourn, I'll call the question, all those in favor.

1515
01:59:15,140 --> 01:59:17,520
Opposed? It's carried. Thank you very much. We are adjourned.

1516
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:18,840
Thank you.

1517
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:19,800
Staff, have a good night.