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Good evening, everybody. Welcome to this regular council meeting for the City of Mission for March 2nd. I would like to acknowledge

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before we begin tonight that we're gathered this evening on the unseated and ancestral and shared territories of the Stolo people.

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The mission is specifically located in the traditional territories of the Katsi, Quantland, Wakam, Math, Quies, Samath, and Scalots, First Nations. We welcome everybody here this evening.

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We have a poll list of presentations and public hearings this evening. So please be patient. I will ask for a motion to adopt the agenda.

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Move by councilor Hurr, second by councilor Plexus. I don't believe there are any changes from anybody on staff. Is that correct?

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Ready for the question? All those in favor? Opposed. The motion or the agenda has been adopted. So we begin this evening with a presentation from Treena Cannon, the Executive Director for Fraser Health in this area.

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And Dr. Paul Thuron, the Site Medical Director for Mission Memorial Hospital. We welcome them to come. You've got lots of folks who are interested I think in this subject. That may not be the main reason I came out here this evening, but I guarantee you they're all interested in what you have to say.

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Welcome in. Please come up to the microphone and speak.

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There we go. Hello everyone. I'm Dr. Thuron from Mission Hospital. No number of faces around the room and number of faces I don't know, but thank you for inviting us to present today.

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I would imagine I think a lot of the focus or the concern in the community around the council chambers here would be with the disruption to emergency services at the hospital over the past two years.

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I think everyone is quite aware that we had a significant flood in the emergency room in 2024, it's a little bit over two years now.

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And quite a slow, sluggish timeline to eventually get our project approved for renovation of the emergency room.

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Fortunately, it has been recently announced that project is well underway. Design is completed. The project has been awarded to the construction firm.

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They have started with construction and pre-construction activities in the past few weeks.

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Our hope is to have it completed by February of 2027, which would bring a significant expansion to emergency service infrastructure at the hospital.

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And by proxy, we expect that it will hopefully lead to enhance the hiring and staff retention.

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As we move forward, it's been quite difficult over the past two years for us to retain staff.

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The province and the community is struggling with healthcare services and human resources in the healthcare environment.

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Not mission only, but we certainly have felt more of the acute pinch over the past couple of years.

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But that being said, maybe we move on to the next slide.

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We have a control there, there we go.

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All right.

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Often we have questions in terms of the activities that lead up to one of these service adaptations, if I have to use the health authorities parlance.

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I think it's important to note that we, in any given months and through the year, have a significant amount of vacancies giving going into any given month.

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We work with our partners at other sites across the health authority out of health authority trying to be creative with staffing with hiring with local coverage.

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There has been additional incentives offered in the past by the health authority, which is in a physically constrained environment like the province finds itself in this point.

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The ministry has felt is not sustainable in the longer term, but we work right up until the day of to look at covering those vacancies.

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And more often than not, the community does not ever become aware that there was a likely disruption in services as we are able to fill it perhaps sometimes a day before.

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So as you can see there on the screen, we have covered at least 95% of all shifts in the emergency department over the past fiscal year, but as rural aware there has been some gaps in that coverage.

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We have managed to hire four new physicians to the hospital to the emergency department in the past six months.

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Unfortunately, that is counterbalanced against the number of physicians that have also lifted a department, so it is even flow.

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We have a number of new recruits that we're in the process of hiring and hope to have them join the department in the next six months.

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Hopefully by the end of the summer, which will definitely help to give us a little bit of a staffing buffer provides some stability and hopefully by then we will start to see the end of these service adaptations.

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Our staffing model is family physician, you know, forward.

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The services in mission as far as the hospital is concerned in patient coverage, emerging to coverage, running in the long-term care facility, the UPCC, which was opened.

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Any addiction services maternity programs, it all comes through family physicians.

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So any family physicians hired into the community, full full number of different roles.

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The emergency department is challenged with its current physical space and infrastructure.

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Unfortunately, that does often lead to physicians being less inclined to want to work in an environment.

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And that's again, in our way, why we hope that the restoration and renovation project will lead to better hiring going forward.

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The inpatient program admission previously set by family physicians, running on their own patients.

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The adopted the same inpatient hospital model that most of the other hospitals in Fraser Health now have.

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And that was established in 2016. That model's been incredibly stable.

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It's led to around the clock presence of physicians at the hospital from 8 a.m. until midnight every day.

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With much better throughput of patients and being able to use that staffing model against, you know, limited bed spaces and care spaces in the hospital.

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The enables us to be one of the better flowing hospitals in the health authority are metrics, you know, speak for themselves in that regard.

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We'll move on to the next slide.

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Perhaps before you go on to the next slide, if you could, Dr. Thuron.

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I know some of us are familiar with that model or what a hospitalist does.

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But perhaps you could give us a sentence or two to explain what that model means.

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Of course.

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The hospitalist really refers to a physician that is in the hospital working in the hospital looking after admitted patients.

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And those patients are both on the acute medical program, the hospital's path program, which is a non-acute condolation unit.

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The dealing with more complex discharge planning issues.

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The rounding physicians are family physicians from the community.

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So they're not coming in from other communities.

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They are members of our medical staff and division.

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In addition, that take time out of their office to come and work in the hospital.

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And we do that for a week at a time.

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Hours are 8 to 6 p.m. with evening rounding up to midnight as well.

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So again, as we hire physicians into the community, some of those hours that they spend.

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In their professional life is in their office.

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But we'll also be in the hospitalist program.

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Some of them in the emergency department and some of the other programs you saw in the screen as well.

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Thank you.

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I just want to thank everyone for having me here today.

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I'm the interim executive as I mentioned.

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And I've been overseeing mission for sits September as an executive.

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But working with the healthcare organization since 1997.

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I am a frontline nurse.

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And with that, I just want to say I want to acknowledge Paul.

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Because Paul has been done doing multiple.

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Many hours outside of the regular hours to support and to ensure that we have the emergency physicians.

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And as you mentioned, it is sometimes the last minute.

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We're kind of trying to fill the gaps for our emergency.

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And our goal was always to fill those gaps.

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And we definitely, you know, acknowledge.

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And I want to to share that we're ongoing.

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And our vision is always to ensure that we have that support that we need for our community.

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And so with that, I really wanted to share our advanced new services that we have for mission.

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And since I've been there.

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The advocacy that we do have for our staff and our community is amazing.

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And so the things that we've done in regards to advanced nurse services regarding the.

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As Paul mentioned, around the four emergency physicians that's for 24 hours.

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We have respiratory therapists is available now for seven days a week for our mission.

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So this actually helps to decrease the transfer patients to other sites.

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But we can able to provide that holistic care for our patients.

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That is seconds fence was launched in 2023.

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Internal medicine is available five days a week.

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So those the physicians have the specialty knowledge to provide that.

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Care for those patients that are needed in that complex acute oversight.

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Chesapeake and clinic is available twice per week.

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As well as we have virtual geriatric psychiatry support provided by our raw,

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clummy in hospital.

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So one of the things that I.

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As Paul very advocated was for us to have inpatient alter monitors.

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So we're going to be.

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We're glad to say that we're going to start into do that and support our patients in the inpatient.

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So we don't have to transfer those patients out.

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But we can monitor them in our inpatient area.

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The also is our high flow oxygen therapy is caught air.

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So those are patients that are needing that extra support of oxygen.

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And so we've had implement that for our site.

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As well as search beds.

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So what that means is that times when we do have an increase in a.

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Congestion for needing support for patients.

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We've increased it now to 36 funded beds.

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And then with that we've increased our nursing ratio.

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So we have one to four now for patients and that's a standardized.

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And we're going to realize for across the organization as well.

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So mission has been very successful.

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And I what I've seen as well is that we have nurses that are traveling from other cities and

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Langley and those areas that really want to come work in mission.

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And it's really, you know, we have a really robust.

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Wellness committee that I'm just it's just been quite.

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Heartwarming to see.

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The others I just want to highlight.

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So emergency is just a little part of our journey.

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And so it is really being able to focus on what do we have in our communities.

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And as for patients, ensure that we.

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Are able to maximize the service that we have in our community.

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And so with that we have the mission urgent and primary care center.

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And we have a very strong community based service that is central in supporting our community as well.

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So the mission you PCC is supported more than 14,000 patients since they opened.

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As well as 28 percent of patients served in 2025 we're not attached to a prominent care provider.

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So they've helped to support those patients that don't have a physician.

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And then with that providing care to 66 approximately 66 patients per day on average as well.

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And then 40 percent of all the appointments in 2025 occurred after hour.

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So it's really highlighting that the utilization of this service as been.

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I would say their.

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The access of care for our urgent primary care is continuing to review their services deliverables.

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I also want to highlight that as a overseen home health and and home support in the community.

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We've had we got 541 patients that are seen in mission through home health clients.

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And then 98 hundred hours that are supported by her home support as well.

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So in closing I just want to say as I mentioned earlier.

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There is so much relationships and partnerships that we do that's outside of the office the hospitals one we have a lot of strong connection.

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I know Paul and I while I co-chair with Paul as well.

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We have a community committee that really folks and what can we do to improve our patients journey and our pathway for our patients.

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So there's ongoing.

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Conversation but I'm really grateful for the collaboration and the support that we received from our partners such as.

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Like said city of mission our indigenous communities.

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Our foundation and many others including our our CMP mission far rescue services correction.

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BC the mission hospital society and the mission health care auxiliary and also want to highlight we have great partnership with our family division in in mission as well.

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And so with that it allows us to be more proactive.

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Transparent and responsive to the challenges that we all we do see as well.

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So it's really it is a lot of connection that we do and I think that's just.

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That conversation and connection is it's so key and I think that's where we're here today to say that that's the work that we're doing every day is ensure.

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That there is no gaps and there's no harm to our patients but be able to support what is needed so.

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It is working together as a team based primary care and then coordination across their hospital and our emergency services but I also want to highlight that we are part of one of 12 hospitals in the region.

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So we do have a region that supports each other and ensure that patients are being transferred to the care that is needed for for for them as well.

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So with that I just want to say thank you.

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One thing I do want to had in regards to mental health I know that comes out quite often in regards to mental health and what what is it that we have in our community right now that supports our clients.

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So we do have a regional adult community service referrals and that's for primary care can access that for patients so that they can get to specialized care that is needed and then Fraser health as an access line so this is where it's.

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Access for mental health and substance use and it is around what's the best fit for the patient these so they basically are to triage to ensure that they are getting the service that they need.

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As well we have a rapid access and addiction care clinic that is air and mission and so clients can go in there and be able to be assessed and to be followed up to ensure that they're not getting lost in our systems so there's lots of things.

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That that resource.

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This is that are supported in our mission community as well.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'll say two things and then turn over to questions and I'm certain we'll have many.

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The first is I just want to thank you both as well as Minister Osborne for the fact that you have made yourselves very very available outside of typical hours even when there's the small chance that there may not be staffing.

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I hear from one or all three of you and we have a good dialogue and you give me not only the weather report, but the lay in the land.

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And I'm not surprised that the number comes out to 94.5 percent because most of the time you're able to do that.

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And Dr. Thuron, I don't know how you have time to do medicine because you're constantly trying to find people to work here.

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So I appreciate that. I also appreciate advocacy that the medical community has provided to help us move from CT scanner to flood repair to 141 percent more of the beds that we have and the other amenities you spoke of.

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I also anticipate there'll be some questions here today regarding physician recruitment and retention and I know that that's not entirely in your domain, but we'll do our best to answer those questions with you from Fraser health part of things.

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And I wanted to just let colleagues on Council and the opportunity to know we're working with Fraser Health on organizing two North Fraser forums which have the opportunity to get into some of this.

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In more detail and have opportunities for the community to interact and speak with Fraser health with their concerns and their ideas.

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So we'll be doing more of this work.

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Questions. I've got Council or Hamilton Council or Elias Council or Plexus Council or Gil. Thank you. So we'll get everybody go ahead. Council.

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Thank you, Mayor Horn. I do our guests.

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My question is a comment and I want to thank you for being here tonight to shed a light on what's going on in our hospital and particularly our emergency room because we regularly get the keyboard warriors on Facebook calling us out about our ER and you know it's still going to close no matter what we do there.

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I hope your presentation tonight will resonate with some of the folks to say, you know what it's not going anywhere it's improving and we'll be proud of the hospital that we have when it stands up. Thank you for being here.

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Thank you very much.

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I would say it's important for us to have the community be aware that the ability to add services, expand services, isolate the hospital from necessary being overly reliant on other peripheral programs and hospitals is really important for us.

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The ability to have added and expanded some existing programs even in a facility called strain environment.

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It has been a win but it's not without need for very vigorous advocacy on on my part and trainers part but thank you very much for your comments.

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Here's my speaker's order, Council or Elias then Council Plexus Gil Davies and Councilor Hurard. Did you want to get in there? Okay thank you. All right so Councilor Elias.

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Thank you, Mayor Hurard and thank you, Dr. Hurard. You're on for being here as well as Miss Cannon. Thank you so much.

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So again, I find myself perplexed with this because as a municipality this isn't our domain to be in. However, we are doing so to be able to support our community and support Fraser Health as well.

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And so my question to you is what do you need from the city to help incentivize physicians to choose to live and work in play in mission.

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That's a good question and it's hard to quantify. What does that make somebody choose to move to a specific community.

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The typical feedback we receive from physicians that we hire to the hospital and often leave are that they feel this issues with the peripheral support not within the confines of mission hospital per se but at a regional level the difficulty with transferring patients to other hospitals.

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Not always in the control of other sites either all hospitals are often over capacity and and under supported from a staffing perspective and underfunded.

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That's a reality.

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So that continues to be a challenge and more often not physicians will enough settling in areas where they feel there is more community or acute supports for them and more peripheral services,

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to enable them to provide care at the top of their professional capacity.

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And those are not things that the council and the municipality can necessarily directly address.

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That's the model of care that the Ministry and Fresalth has set out across the region.

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And I think a lot of people in this chamber probably were a time when Mission Hospital has had an ICU and had maternity in the hospital.

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And as models evolve over and and and change some of these services get removed that of a specific community into this hub and spoke model that that really exists throughout the health authority.

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The things that attract professionals in a community are good quality schools it's it's good social public transport networks it's ample opportunities not just for the professional during the hospital but for their spouse and other family members to work and live in the community as well.

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So that's kind of indirect the efforts that expanding the community and infrastructure in the community and I really keep it in the hospital as well.

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Thank you.

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Thank you council.

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Thank you Mr. Terran and for your presentation and for your leadership in the community and in the hospital and the energy you bring I think it's really important for the community.

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I think you're very.

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I'm not just well versed but you're very clearly understand how the communities need and how to meet them you're trying to achieve some goals.

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My one of my questions was in regards to the urgent care primary care facility in the kid there were 16,000 patients and 50 I think 43% of more after hours.

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Do you keep an idea the level of care the type of care that being provided with the whether it's a simple just getting some attention or did they get some type of physical attention.

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How many do you send out to the hospital that was referred for further attention.

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The urgent primary care model is largely focused around episodic care meaning occasionally interactions but not developing a longitudinal relationship with in particular patient.

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That's where we require family physicians in the community to provide that attachment service for patients to have that longitudinal relationship.

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The UBCC is funded directly through the ministry so it is not coming from the hospital's operational budget.

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And that service that model of care involves a number of adult health professionals, social workers, nurses, LPNs working in that setting.

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But also as part of that team model is to have a physician or nurse practitioner.

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There are certainly some days especially at the early inception of the program where they did not always have a nurse practitioner or physician provider working in the clinic.

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So oftentimes the interventions there would largely be advisory in nature and would require a redirect to our hospital or to another hospital depending on what the patient is presenting with.

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They have done a lot better over the last 12 months with regular staffing in terms of their provider coverage.

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And that is led to us being able to at times of peak pressure actually redirect patients with lower security needs from the hospital to the urgent primary care clinic.

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The UBCC also provides a follow-up service for unattached patients as you saw on the screen there by 30% of their visits were from unattached patients and we see the same statistics coming through the hospital as well.

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So often having a close loop for follow-up after issues that present to the hospital require additional outpatient investigations or outpatient follow-up of some sort.

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That provides a much needed service for us to redirect patients for that low-acuity non-merging follow-up after they come to the hospital.

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Right.

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Perhaps I could ask you to augment that answer or something that I don't know if I heard it from his canning or from Minister Osborne.

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But the opposite seems to be the truth here is that we're seeing a higher than usual number of low-acuity cases showing up at our ER.

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So it's not that urgent care refers to Abbotsford.

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It's more likely that some of the folks that are going to Mission Memorial ER would be better served and faster served at urgent primary care.

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And that would then have an expediting effect on the people who are sort of correctly at ER.

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Is that a safe summary of it?

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It's a fair statement.

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We have seen in our statistics in terms of registration data and acuity category scoring that we use at the hospital that over the past 12 plus months since the UBCC opened and staffing stabilized.

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That we have had a higher percentage of higher-recuity presentations of our total numbers to the hospital and less low-acuity presentations.

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So other patients are choosing to pre-direct themselves to the UBCC or were able to at the point of triage redirect those patients away from the hospital if their needs are met elsewhere.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And I think you increased the hours there as well.

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Really, right.

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But nearly doubled, I believe.

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I think that I would like to like to take responsibility for that.

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But it's nothing to do with me.

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Unfortunately.

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The only other question I had to do appreciate your responses and questions is looking at the hospital itself.

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And I don't know how many beds are actually in the hospital, but you've indicated you got 36 funded beds.

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Those all of the beds are more beds than that in the hospital.

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They've been utilized.

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One point someone mentioned to me, the beds may have been used for overflow,

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for bringing people back to matters for ongoing care because they couldn't, because they were overflowing at absolute correct.

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I'll expand on that a little bit.

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So our hospital has a couple of different parallel clinical programs.

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So the 36 funded beds that you're referring to is within the acute medical program.

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Those are acutely sick patients to be admitted through the emerging department.

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We have an additional 20-bit path program, which is our non-acut condolation program.

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Those are often patients referred to the hospital from other sites predominantly Abbotsford.

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That require a prolonged course of low-recuity rehabilitation or some complex services

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that they need in the community to facilitate their discharge.

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There's also a 10-bit hospice unit on the top floor of the hospital.

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So that's our total bit, basically, the 66-bits.

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The surge capacity is limited in mission.

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Our space is very, very, very tight.

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In basement contemporary standards, one could even say the hospital is at double capacity at all times.

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So we have a couple of spaces that we will surge into during seasonal flux over the Christmas holiday period with increased respiratory presentations.

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That we can place those patients into a temporary surge unit in the medical unit.

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So we basically will go up to 40-bits if needs demand.

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And we will sometimes also have patients admitted in the emergency room that unfortunately,

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because of constraints and bit spaces.

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We'll have to remain in the emergency room for an extended period of time.

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Thank you for your conversation.

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Today, I really appreciate all of you doing.

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Thank you.

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One thing before I go on to Councilor Gill is you mentioned all those beds.

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The reporting often refers to the expansion by 35% of the ER, but really in terms of the number of spaces in the ER.

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I think from 17-41, is that correct?

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It's about 140% improvement.

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The floor space may not necessarily be growing that much, but the utility of it is getting quite expanded.

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Absolutely true.

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Councilor Gill.

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I think you may have heard.

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I just want to say thank you so much for all the work both you guys do.

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As a community, we do appreciate it.

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I know when we talk about health care and I'm sure it frustrates you guys as well.

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But also frustrates me, you know, looking at how much I pay in taxes to the health care system.

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I just like, you know, where's the money going?

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I guess the first question I have is just the physicians.

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I know I've read recently just the work that the province is doing on recruiting doctors and making it easier for doctors coming in from abroad or getting reclassified.

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Has that started to make a difference on the ground yet?

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We are seeing a number of physicians joining the regional programs.

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We haven't necessarily seen a lot of that traffic directed into this community up to now.

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We are aware of many U.S. physicians that are either in the pre-registration process or have already joined other sites within the health authority.

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So it is seeming to start to make some inroads.

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The time from when these recruitment drives happen to stuff expressing interest.

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Being hired is often multiple months of required notice where they're coming from and work permits.

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It is multiple steps in that process, eventually arriving here.

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The hiring is also through multiple streams.

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So you have your physicians that have qualifications that are considered equivalent by the Canadian Medical Association.

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And they can register and work with relative ease within Canada.

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Unfortunately, each province also has its own registering and supervisory body.

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So that registration is both at a federal and provincial level.

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And does limited ability to move between provinces.

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We have seen there some working done to take away these restrictions and create a unified registration process,

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which would provide more more mobility for physicians within Canada's borders.

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Then you also have the domestically qualified physicians that once they qualify will decide where they wish to work.

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Canada is one of the few countries within the Commonwealth that does not have a return of service program.

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So if you qualify in Canada, there is no return of service expectation to work in the community that you were trained or within the province that you were trained.

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And you know, as physicians are qualified can choose how many hours they wish to work in which kind of arrangement.

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That is fairly unique to Canada, South Africa, where I come from has a community service model.

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We actually provide three years of community service before we can go into pin practice.

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And that model provides you with a structured pathway to place physicians in especially underserved communities.

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Which we find will often then remain in those communities once they settle down social routes and become engaged at the hospital too.

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So there are opportunities to improve the distribution of physicians within the province's borders.

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You also have international medical graduates that will come to the province in country, but the college has set a specific pathway for them towards independent practice that requires three years of supervised practice.

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And that is very individualized based on their supervisor, how they allow them to work outside of the clinic that they recruited into.

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Some supervisors will allow them to work in the hospital setting, do long longitudinal care, work long, long-term care, maternity care, etc.

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That is very variable.

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So mission has, through its division of family practice, hired 11 physicians into the community since 2020.

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Unfortunately, only one of them worked in the hospital.

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So there is a disconnect between physician recruitment into the community, but that translating into additional staffing in the hospital.

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I appreciate that. I guess my next question is, I know I do hear from members of the community that say, you know, they do go to emergent and the wait times are quite lengthy.

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And that's just not mission based. You know, you go to have support, you go to Siri, you can go anywhere and the wait times are quite lengthy. Is it just because of due to the shortage of doctors?

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The challenge for mission is, is multi-pronged at this, at this time.

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Officially. Missions, emergency emergency department is a single coverage physician department, meaning that from, you know, let's say at a clock in the morning until 5 PM in the afternoon, there's a single emergency room physician in the hospital.

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And with high QD cases, or active resuscitations, that physician can become engaged with that particular patient for quite a long period of time.

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While patients continue to register for the emergency department, the net will extend the wait.

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We have advocated strongly not to have our emergency wait times published on the health authority tracker, which a lot of patients look at.

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For that very specific reason, it can fluctuate so significantly from moment to moment.

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We're further bottlenecked by the current space, while we're working out of what used to be our ambulatory care space and endoscopy prep and recovery area.

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We're working out of what is about the third of the space of what the emergency department was before the flood.

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And it is actually quite amazing that the team is able to maintain a very similar throughput of about 75 to 80 patients per 24 hours within this really constrained space.

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So there's a lot of work that happens at the hospital to create opportunities for flow and place patients in the right spaces.

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The emergency department also had to appropriate about five inpatient care spaces from the medical program to create a space for us to see patients.

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So once the emergency department moves back into its original footprint, we'll see our acute bed space potentially increases as well.

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And sorry, just for clarification, you said singles, sorry, what was the single for the doctor you had?

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The single coverage model, so it means as opposed to a larger hospital like Abbotsford, which has seven to eight physicians per 24 hours.

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We have three physicians per 24 hours.

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Is there a push once the extension happens to get away from the single coverage and to have something similar to our support?

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Absolutely, we have in the past seen peak volumes up to about 100 or sometimes more patients per 24 hours.

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That volume of patients, especially with the increasing complexity that we're seeing, would typically require four to five physicians working in over that model per 24 hours.

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But as we can tell, we're severely challenged with staffing, so we're able to achieve that level of staffing or redundancy.

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Would require a lot more hiring than what we've been able to achieve recently.

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That's great information.

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And I guess my next question is, I know folks in the community always talk about when mission had their maternity.

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Can you talk a little bit about that? Is there any plans in the future for maternity or is that even coming up in discussion?

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Or because of mission hospital being with the regional model, we're really going to rely on Abbotsford for maternity.

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So maternity services are both in the acute setting at the time of delivery or anti-natally post-natally.

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Especially with complicated patients.

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And then you have the community part of that, the prenatal follow-up that happens from week zero to week 40.

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Mission had a maternity group doing that anti-natal care.

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But again, because of loss of physicians within the community, the specialised in that particular field.

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We lost that program a couple of years ago.

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The obstetrics and gynecology programs across the health authority and province are challenged.

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We've seen other health authorities have closures of their OB-GYN departments such as Cologne, a general.

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We've seen it at Ridge Meadows recently, so it is highly unlikely at this time that we would see maternity services return to mission.

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We neither have the facilities nor space to provide adequate care for those patients at this time.

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We did go through a master planning.

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It's called it exercise.

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Approximately two years ago, looking at the size of the community, projected population growth, current services in the hospital, space infrastructure and so forth.

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With a number of recommendations coming from that process in terms of expanding existing programs or adding additional programs.

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But maternity did not come up as a high-demand service formation at this time.

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Again, just based on what we know from our physician staffing model.

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Perhaps I can ask a follow up on your question.

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It's been explained to me.

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As a bit of a rumor out there has always been this legend that it was a funding cut that led to that.

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But what's been explained to me by positions is that it was a matter of inadequate hours and proficiency.

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In order to maintain their standards as OBGYNs, they needed to have more patients coming through.

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And the regional model meant though those patients were likely going more to an avid's for regional than mission memorial.

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Is that accurate?

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Is it really largely a function of being able to provide enough doctors and enough patients for those doctors when the move happened?

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I don't know if you were, you thought that weren't here, doctor's wrong.

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Yeah, that actually predates me.

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I moved to the community in 2012, so it's been longer than that since the hospital had maternity services.

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But that would definitely be a large part of it.

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Not only the ability to have patients going to labor in the hospital and deliver in the hospital,

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but you need those and salary services, such as pediatrics or pediatric ICU or unital ICU, which mission doesn't have.

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So then if there's something goes wrong, exactly.

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So you want to have the infrastructure to know that any patient that comes to the hospital for labor can be carried for adequately.

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Thank you.

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Back to you, council.

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Thank you.

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No worries.

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And thank you.

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I think that's important information for the community.

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And I do appreciate you guys coming before the community and presenting.

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So, you know, I hope you guys, you know, continue the hard work.

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And if there's anything we can do to lobby at the federal or provincial level.

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You know, we're there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Councillor.

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I've got Councillor Davies followed by Councillor Hurrah.

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Thank you, doctor.

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And this is getting for coming tonight.

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I really appreciate the information you've come and shared with the community.

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You answered one of my questions regarding wait times on the website and why that.

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My mission is absent.

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I do have a second question on the urgent primary care center, which is, you know, there's a lot of times people get turned away because they don't meet the criteria necessary for the urgent primary care center, right?

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They, they, they, they're either too acute or not acute enough.

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There seems to be a, a little bit of a sweet spot is to what they need to present or in a timeframe they need to get there.

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And it, it's, is there a way that a patient or resident can actually identify whether or not they should be going to emergency versus UPCC versus their regular doctor?

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I would say that there's not a medical program that is not acute enough to present to the UPCC.

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Right?

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That's the, that's the reason why we have a lower acute unit for those patients.

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That, so it necessarily needs to come in a certain way that the hospital for 46 hours.

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It can go in, oftentimes with a, with a, with a, with a preset appointment time and have their, you know, a concern addressed.

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So I would need more information about that particular comment to know that is, if that is the case.

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And as far as acute is concerned, but many patients are able to self triage based on their issue to have at least an idea whether we require the hospital or a less acute setting.

397
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But you will always have overlap where some patients might present to the hospital that didn't need to be there and some patients that didn't need to be there either.

398
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And, and that's why we have a, you know, good communication strategy between the two and kind of redirect patients really quickly between the two sites.

399
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:33,000
It, it's, it's very hard to give such a detailed scope for patients who be able to pre triage based on their symptom or concern to say you should go here, but you should not go here.

400
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:43,000
What we, what we feel, and what ends up being the underlying issue, that's why we go to the hospital to often get X-rays blood tests, things like that in a physical examination.

401
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:49,000
It, it's, it's not in the scope of the, you know, average citizen to be able to make that predetermination what their issue is.

402
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:58,000
So, if, if, if we have a patient's present, we will get them to the right care at the right time, but yes, sometimes it might require a redirect to another location.

403
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
You can answer her.

404
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn. Thank you so much for, presentation and I see progress in the right direction.

405
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:17,000
My question about recruitment has kind of been answered, but once we identified candidates from abroad, how long is the process for them to come to Canada to start working here?

406
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Patients on what jurisdiction they're coming from, and some of the, you know, individual constraints in their timeline.

407
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,000
For most physicians, once they've expressed an interest, once we've had an interview with them, presented a job offer.

408
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000
The time from them applying for work permit, applying for licensing can be anything from six or 12 months.

409
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
The province has done some work to tighten up in those timelines.

410
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:50,000
But the processing of applications through the physician's college has shortened, and we've heard from some physicians joining that it's short-term now that it used to be for for other people that have joined in the past.

411
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,000
But the immigration component of that work permitting or permanent residency applications that can still be quite protracted.

412
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Great.

413
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
And has that program been successful overall?

414
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,000
People have been coming here to Canada to work do you stay here or they go back or like, I was, I've been working out.

415
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000
I don't think that I'm necessarily the best-positioned person to answer that question with statistics.

416
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
I would probably be a question better directly to the ministry.

417
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:24,000
How's the new SFU medical school going to help us out in the long run in terms of the first undergraduates are entering that program now in September of 2026?

418
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000
That's a slightly abbreviated program for your program.

419
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
So the earliest graduates out of that program will qualify in 2021.

420
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,000
So the earliest that we would see those physicians entering the workforce, 29, 20, 30.

421
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:44,000
So what we will see in the short-term at the hospital, we've had some infrastructure improvements to provide data-cated learning spaces for the students.

422
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:54,000
We are making sure that most of our staff have the UBC presided, the term for them, sorry, blanking on that term now.

423
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:02,000
I see an educator qualification so that they can have students attach to them and have them join them in the emerging department or in the inpatient setting.

424
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000
So we can have as many students as possible in the hospital.

425
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:18,000
There's often a kind of organic recruitment that happens through undergraduate students working in a certain community or in a certain hospital that they often become familiar with the staff, familiar with the programs, and we'll choose to stay in that community or hospital.

426
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Thank you so much.

427
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Thank you both.

428
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:30,000
In my time on that council, before I was on council back to the days of the maternity closure and so forth.

429
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:39,000
And in between my times on council, I've seen an evident flow in the relationship between the city and the ministry and Fraser Health.

430
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Right now I would say it is at one of its best places.

431
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:52,000
When the last time I saw it be like this, we saw the investment in the community health center and the residences in mission.

432
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,000
I think that we have demonstrated that when we work collaboratively, we can do so much more.

433
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,000
You talked about some of the amendments are improvements here.

434
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
You could have talked as well about many others.

435
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,000
The 12 complex care beds that have been added here, for example.

436
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:15,000
And we look forward to the continuing planning that we need to do that's also happening at the hospital district table of which I am the acting chair.

437
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000
And I have to say that there's lots of active work that going on there as well.

438
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:28,000
We are a perplex and it's nothing to do with Fraser Health by some of the treasury board decisions that have come down the recent budget because we need the money from the province.

439
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:36,000
I think the numbers here tonight and any time we have health care conversation in mission show that people care a lot about this community.

440
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000
There are a lot of things that will get people out, but nothing gets them out as much as health care.

441
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,000
And so I really appreciate the collaborative approach that you both have taken the ministry is currently taking.

442
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,000
We've seen some sea changes in leadership and the way that we're in bidirectional communication.

443
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,000
So let's keep that going and we appreciate your time this evening.

444
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Thank you very much.

445
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,000
Thank you.

446
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000
All right.

447
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000
And with that, we'll move on to our next presentation.

448
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We have our friends from city studio at UFB, the UFB Center for Experiential and Career Education.

449
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,000
As we have Candice Stewart Smith and Larissa Horn, and they're going to come from the back row there.

450
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
I was looking for you and you were sitting back there.

451
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Oh, you're going to introduce him and I just did that for you.

452
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
I'm sorry Mr. Pain.

453
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Absolutely.

454
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000
No.

455
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:29,000
So I will let you introduce these folks, but maybe what we'll do and let's let a few folks come in here.

456
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:35,000
So maybe what I can do is ask Ms. Horn and Mr. Stewart Smith just to give us two seconds.

457
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,000
If you're in the lobby and you want to come and sit inside, I would say there are.

458
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:47,000
There are three or four chairs available in here and you're welcome to come in and thank you sir for moving over to create some space to appreciate that.

459
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
If you want to stay up there you're welcome to, but I just wanted to make sure we allowed for transition.

460
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
All right, it doesn't look like anybody's going to take us up on that offer.

461
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,000
So Mr. Pain, the floor is yours and to our guests as well.

462
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:07,000
I thank you again. I just wanted to take the time to introduce the team from UFB Center for Experiential and Career Education.

463
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We have the chance to connect over the last few months and kind of look at partnership and support that their team can offer us in the city.

464
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:21,000
So I wanted you already introduced, but we have Ms. Candice Stewart Smith, who's the director of the center.

465
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:28,000
And Ms. Larissa Horn, who's the experiential educational coordinator.

466
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,000
It's a mouthful.

467
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Thank you very much.

468
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Welcome to both of you.

469
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Okay.

470
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Good evening, Mayor Horn and councillors and everyone who's here today.

471
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I'm exciting to see a big house.

472
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:56,000
And so looking forward to sharing with you this great opportunity for our mission.

473
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,000
For our mission to join a network of municipalities using student talent.

474
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:11,000
So through research and community engagement to provide some challenges within the community community.

475
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000
And so when we and this is through city studio.

476
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
So we'll talk a little bit more about that.

477
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,000
When we look at the work that we've been doing with different municipalities.

478
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:31,000
We want to bring 5,000 plus student hours in terms of research and project work.

479
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:39,000
The investment comes at a cost so there's $1,500 annually and we'll talk a little bit more about that later in the presentation.

480
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:51,000
And when we look at alignment, there are at least three strategic plans where our students can bring their talent to what the work of the city of mission.

481
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,000
And again, there is no impact.

482
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,000
So there's no permanent full time person.

483
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
That's necessarily needed to do that.

484
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,000
So sorry, I would just add. The additional advantage in mission is that we have three engaged community partners in the city.

485
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,000
So from the committee, the future is north-raiser, that's Gwen Smith.

486
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Mission Community Skills Centre, so it was the Steven Evans and Mission Grid Head Investment Corporation.

487
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:32,000
I'm St. C. Coffee, who's here with us today, Gwen and Steven Sands, there are regrets.

488
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:40,000
How does city studio work? So the city will work with the city who identifies projects.

489
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We at the university will take a look at those projects, things about things about the courses, the faculty members that we can work with,

490
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and then create those student teams. So students will be working on projects in their classes.

491
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Students get out into the community, they get some mentorship learn about these challenges,

492
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,000
they do some research, and then develop some solutions that are reviewed by their faculty members.

493
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:14,000
So again, this is being done in the classroom. The ideas are brought to the city, so you all have an opportunity to go.

494
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:24,000
So take a look at what the students are suggesting as some solutions, and then the city can either thank the students for the work.

495
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,000
They can take the small part of the proposed ideas that the students came with.

496
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,000
So again, it's up to the city to decide how you would want to implement those ideas.

497
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000
We think about the benefits for a city studio with the mission.

498
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:48,000
So it's a cost effective, research and development capacity, it builds capacity for the city again.

499
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,000
I mentioned that there's no full time person needing to do this work.

500
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,000
We think about what the students are learning in their classrooms, bringing some fresh ideas and concepts and technologies

501
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,000
to some of the challenges that have been faced in the community,

502
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,000
and then for young people to be invested in mission to future.

503
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:12,000
And when we think about it, again, just generally benefits to mission.

504
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:22,000
So I've talked about at least three aligned plans, or strategic plans, or we aligned with strategic plans.

505
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:28,000
And so when we think about the official community plan, you know, we've had students who've done work,

506
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,000
and again, my colleague Lewis will talk a little bit more about that.

507
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,000
So thinking about flood protection planning and density studies.

508
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,000
And there's also alignment with the community wellness strategies.

509
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
So thanks for Jason for introducing us today.

510
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:52,000
So thinking about youth engagement and food security initiatives, which is another one of the priorities for mission community skill center.

511
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,000
And Parks and Recreation, so I'm thinking of training development,

512
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,000
heritage signing, science, and place-making.

513
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Good evening again, Miran.

514
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Council, thank you so much for having us here today.

515
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:18,000
I'm going to go over some examples that were generated through collaborating with the city of mission and our community.

516
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Partners, for example, you see on the slide, the Silverdale Creek Parkway Trail project,

517
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:32,000
that could have students design way-finding an interpretive signage, or different other components that city will do as priorities.

518
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Another one in the second row, youth engagement, youth civic engagement,

519
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:46,000
that is an excellent opportunity for youth students to create innovative framework for youth participating in civic decisions on the process.

520
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:52,000
And another one, a good project with identified so far the inclusive place-making project.

521
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000
That can focus on creative and inclusive public spaces around mission.

522
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:02,000
When students can lead through design activities to build compassionate and resilient cities.

523
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:10,000
We have accumulated at UV a wonderful set of expertise and practical experiences in such creative projects.

524
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,000
To have been mobilized elsewhere in other communities in place-making.

525
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:20,000
And there's a group of faculty who are very enthusiastic in engaging in this work.

526
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,000
In terms of funding for such initiative, don't limit cities to do here in mission.

527
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:32,000
A typical city-studio network fee is 30,000 a year.

528
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,000
But due to our strong reputation with the city-studio Vancouver, which is a mother-organization at south of franchise.

529
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,000
And the strengths of our partners here and the size of municipality itself.

530
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:50,000
We were able to negotiate the price down by 50%, which now stands at 15,000 a year.

531
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:58,000
And that means equal contribution of half of that amount on the part of UV and half of that amount on part of the city of mission.

532
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,000
And UV is fully committed to contributing its share.

533
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:08,000
So what would the city of mission get for that money?

534
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000
Over 5,000 student hours per year and can just already alluded to that.

535
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Faculty expertise, access to technology, access to innovative research,

536
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,000
proofs of concepts that align with mission strategic plans and engagement,

537
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000
like civic engagement on the part of the students.

538
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:34,000
And of course, city-studio has been a proven workshop workforce recruitment tool,

539
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,000
particularly in Vancouver and other municipalities where it's been implemented.

540
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,000
City-studio has been also proven model in the neighboring municipalities in particular in Abbotsford.

541
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,000
And they are also engaged with start party community partners.

542
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,000
And we're very appreciative again to have our community partners here in mission supporting us and some been present here.

543
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,000
On this slide, you see the latest testimonials from such organizations as tourism Abotsford,

544
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,000
for instance, with whom we've done multiple projects as a three-week elaboration between the city of Abotsford and tourism Abotsford

545
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:20,000
or downtown business association, Abotsford, and we see great parallels with work that could be done here.

546
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,000
What kind of projects students have done so far? They absolutely vary.

547
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:32,000
From writing white papers, to research, to proofs of concept, to design and installation of creative community

548
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:40,000
driven street banners that sometimes are actually sought after by municipalities, especially in which art is celebrated

549
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:48,000
and flourished. Students also staged impactful art exhibits for social justice.

550
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:56,000
They develop business plans related to climate change and accessibility and not only in work but living in general.

551
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,000
Students have proposed innovative solutions in dealing with invasive species.

552
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:12,000
They design solutions for more innovative forms of transportation and look at very busy corridors where traffic gets jammed.

553
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:20,000
They address a problem with truck parking, of parklets, of creating more parking spaces around communities.

554
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:28,000
They develop GIS maps for seniors and senior safety during climate events just to name a few projects.

555
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:40,000
Just to summarize, our long-term vision is to establish a multi-year sustainable city-studio mission.

556
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:46,000
A partnership that draws on student energy and faculty expertise and support of our community partners to deliver

557
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:56,000
on meaningful and impactful practical projects for the city where young people can experiment, can investor, energy, the research,

558
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,000
their skills and hopefully come and work and live in mission.

559
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:08,000
At this time, we're working very closely with different departments within the city of mission organization to identify

560
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:16,000
and draw upon either operational or some reserve resources to meet the 7500 commitment for the first pilot year.

561
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:28,000
The tentative launch can happen as early as full this year, if not even earlier, depending on what kind of priority project city of mission will identify and we're ready to support that.

562
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:38,000
Logistically, a contract for the first year pilot will need to be signed between city-studio Vancouver proper, UFV and city of mission,

563
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:45,000
and UFV is committed to become an administrative partner and carry on with administrative responsibilities and allocators resources to that.

564
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:54,000
So in conclusion, we're really looking forward to finalizing priority projects for this year and that pretty much completes our presentation,

565
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000
and we will be happy to address any questions.

566
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Thank you, I'll turn it over to questions in a moment, but it's just to be clear,

567
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:08,000
and normally when we have delegations or presentations, there isn't a number in it because it can lead to a conversation about approving something.

568
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:14,000
But staff are dealing with this, but the staff level is my understanding, there isn't a desire for approval.

569
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:23,000
This is mostly to inform about the process that's already gone on and the budget is not going to need to come to us for this in this particular case.

570
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Yes, Mr. Red, that's correct. These expenditures will just be included in regular project budgets.

571
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Thank you, that's very much appreciated. I'll turn it over to questions. I'll go last with the question from myself. I've got accounts for her, I'll follow by Councillor Hamilton.

572
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn. Thank you for the presentation.

573
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:48,000
What year do the students have to be in their studies to participate in this project? They are the year one or the year four, how long the way are they?

574
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
A long their studies.

575
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:56,000
The absolute depends, students from any year of studies could really participate in this moreover at UVO in courage.

576
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:06,000
What we call community engaged learning experiential learning, working the great learning as early as students join our institution because we really want to introduce them to community to what's important.

577
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:14,000
And kind of align the set of skills that are developing in our classroom and meeting learning outcomes in conjunction with community needs.

578
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Experience shows that probably I would say about 60 or 65% of projects are conducted by third and fourth year students and probably the rest about 30% by first and second year.

579
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:35,000
And they're very successful first year students sometimes are very eager to jump in in places like environmental services for instance or climate change.

580
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Students come to university very aware of this general problems in society and so we trust them with accomplishing that work.

581
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Is there specific majors? Are you looking like specific majors or studies that people the students are coming to participate or are they coming from specific departments?

582
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,000
It really depends on the city's needs.

583
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:02,000
We will go by what city will identify as key priorities and we will go and do matching with the disciplines.

584
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
But we've seen the variety of disciplines across the board.

585
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Environmental services is huge, cultural services, youth engagement communications, business school of business.

586
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:23,000
My understanding is that our team including the community leaders you spoke with would come up with some juicy projects and then you kind of put them out to your student body to see who.

587
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,000
And they might be multidisciplinary right.

588
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Thanks. Thanks for having me.

589
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Thanks a lot. That's my question. Thank you.

590
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Councilor Hamilton.

591
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:43,000
So just to be clear that the cost of $7,500 it would be for the first year pilot and you're looking for a multi year commitment.

592
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,000
So after the first year it would go to $15,000.

593
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It's been identified as 15,000 a year with equal contributions of 7,500 from the city and university. That's how $15,000 comes together.

594
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So the amount stays.

595
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That would be the cost.

596
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Yes. Okay.

597
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Thank you.

598
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Three things for me.

599
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First, if you're interested in hearing what I think of your subject areas, your proposals, they all are very appealing.

600
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There's one more.

601
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And Mr. Payne's Bailey work includes it.

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We're working on which is a resource directory for people that needs to be appealing, easily navigated, updated, and ultimately would offer affordable housing.

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We've looked at others like, for example, the 211 line and so forth, but in fetch BC, but they don't have within them some local capacity that we're interested in such as how do you find affordable housing that might be offered in the informal market.

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How do you find job training and peer experiences that can lead to that?

605
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So I'd encourage Mr. Payne to talk further about that in this particular case.

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The second thing I want to do is say, I appreciate your creativity and perseverance because we first talked some time ago and what you've done and your professors must have been so proud of you when you were students.

607
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As you've just gone back and done more homework.

608
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And so you've gotten an explored finding more community partners, which was one of our conversations about diversifying the leadership.

609
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And secondly, the pencil has been sharpened further in terms of the number.

610
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That's really appreciated. And then finally, just to comment as a parent as a child in university, I can tell you that he's not coming to UFP, but I know this program exists elsewhere.

611
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And I'm going to encourage him to look at it because I think it is such an important inroads for people, for young people to have experiential learning and to go and rub shoulders with people who are already working in the sector.

612
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I know he craves that and I know many of his colleagues in school crave the opportunity to go from the esoteric and philosophical to the actual getting to make a difference.

613
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So this is really appealing as I listen to a young person going along his educational journey right now, so thank you for that as well.

614
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I don't think I see any outcomes or plexus.

615
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I just wanted to commend you and I think that it's really good that there's an opportunity within our community with our own post-secondary to be involved in community affairs and involved in some of the processes that we're working through in this community.

616
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So I commend you for suggesting those six projects and obviously I like to see something like this before, but wait and see.

617
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Thank you. Councillor Plexus is not brave enough to say this, but he's hoping there'll be one project that involves gardening on Canaan Street.

618
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It's very, very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time this evening. Thank you.

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With that, we'll move to Adam for aid the public hearings for this evening. We have two of them and so I'll read the public hearings script as always and then we'll work through each of them.

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This public hearing this evening is being convened pursuant to section 464 of the local government act in order to consider proposed bylaws that are listed on tonight's agenda.

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That copies of the relevant staff reports and related information respecting the subject amendment by

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lots have been available for public examination. On the city's website is part of the public

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hearing agenda. Copies of written submissions for each application received by the

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submission deadline have a distributed members of council and are available for public viewing

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on the city of Mission website. Anything that's come in since then I'll ask for a summary

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from our corporate officer. At these public hearings this evening all persons who consider

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their interest in property affected by a proposed by law shall be given an opportunity to be heard

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on matters contained within the by law. This meeting is being recorded in broadcast live on

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our website. The recording and the written minutes of the meeting will also be posted to the

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city's website. Speak as are able to provide comments and ask questions via in-person attendance or

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by Zoom using a webcam and speaker or by phone using the instructions in a Zoom email invitation.

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If you're watching the meeting through our usual website link and are not participating by

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Zoom please note there is a delay between the live meeting and the web broadcast so I'll be allowing

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pauses between speakers to ensure everyone is heard. I ask for everyone's patience in this

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regard we want to make sure we hear every person this evening. Each public hearing item will begin

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with a brief introduction by a staff member followed by a summary of written submissions received by

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our corporate officer and then I'll open the floor to the public. Firstly to our virtual participants

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I'll turn to Ms Cooper and then to participants in the chamber and I understand that this evening

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because we have the numbers we do we have a speakers list and Ms. Ms. Philopon is going to provide

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that to me and if it's updated she'll bring me a new version. Thank you very much.

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Once acknowledge each speaker must give their name and civic address for the record each vehicle will

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be allocated five minutes to make comments. Normally we're not quite as rigorous but we have a

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big crowd here tonight. We want to make sure we hear everybody so we're going to ask you to be considered

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of your neighbors and that's the first of two things I'll ask. If you go beyond that time you may be asked

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to conclude by the chair or if you're online you may be muted. After every IDL has been heard those

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that wish to speak for a second time will be afforded an opportunity to do so provided that they are bringing

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new information forward and that's the second thing I want to emphasize. If somebody is already

648
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raised a point please don't come up a second time just to say the same point. If it hasn't been said before

649
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definitely that's what the second opportunity is used for. Members of council may ask clarification

650
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questions up a person after they've spoken but the main function of council tonight is not to debate

651
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but to listen to the views of the public. No presentations or submissions will be received by council

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in any application after the public hearing for that application has been closed and lastly when

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a public hearing for one item has been closed the public hearing will continue with the next item on the

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agenda so tonight we have two public hearings in succession council may consider third reading of any of

655
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those subject by got by last later this evening or they may ask for third reading report as well and with that

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I will turn to Mr. Pablo I'm assuming on the first one and it's item four B so this is

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development application for 31828 low heat highway P2024-042 and we'll turn to Mr. Pablo.

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Public hearing through an application submitted by summiterth wirks to amend the OCP and

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31828 low heat highway to permit a soil remediation and recycling facility.

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Application seeks to re-designate the site from employment major commercial to employment

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and to resume the property from institutional park recreation and civic zones to the comprehensive

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:59,120
development 60 zone. So the plan showing the current OCP designations for the area the proposed

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amendment were resolved in allowing a suite of uses that are similar in nature to those found

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to the south of the subject property within the Sultara business park and the currently zone CD 34 is

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on directly to the south. As part of the OCP amendment the application was required to deduct an early

666
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consultation with the public as identified by the city's land 66 policy and engagement meeting was held

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November 12th of 2024 at the Mission Friendship Society building. There were noted that there were

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total of two members of the public attendance that includes excludes staff and council members who were

669
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in attendance. The primary focus of the discussion with regarding the changes in traffic along

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all of her street. Once the facility became operational it was noted that a TIA would be undertaken

671
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collectively with MOTT and the city prior to adoption. The facility at the proposed development the

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applicant is proposing in the comprehensive development zone CD 60. The proposed CD 60 zone is modeled

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on a combination of industrial business park zone and the industrial waste resource management zone,

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both which accommodate a broad range of industrial uses including limited commercial activities such

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as office space. CD 60 specifically includes the use of waste resource management to allow the proposed

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remediation facility. To further review of the draft CD 60 zone and in response to feedback from

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the public a minor technical clarification to the bylaws been identified that should be resolved prior

678
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to completion of the bylaws. As noted the CD 60 zone blends uses of the industrial business

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park one zone and the industrial waste resource management zone. The primary purpose of the proposed

680
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development is the noted so remediation facility on the majority of the site. The applicant has indicated

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that a small remaining portion of the site may be developed as a light industrial building or an office

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:14,560
building in the future as such CD 60 was crafted to accommodate both use types. To that respect the

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draft bylaw contained language as shown from section 3B of the draft CD 60 zone which states that all

684
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principle uses shall be located completely within an enclosed building except for outdoor storage.

685
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As the project has always anticipated that waste resource management activity would occur outdoors

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to ensure clarity the waste waste resource management you should be added to this section of the

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bylaw to include to ensure clarity as that staff have recommended that the waste resource management

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used be added to section 3B A prior to consideration of third reading.

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This is the concept plan showing the general later the proposed site where the solar remediation facility

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would be located. It identifies the soil treatment area, the soil storage area, and the truck

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do you route throughout this portion of the site.

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Reading the consideration of the bylaw on August 18, the additional details were requested. The following

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several slides address the questions asked by council.

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Questions about the regulatory enforcement and oversight? There are several existing regulatory

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bylaws that can be used to manage the proposed use and address concerns related to potential impacts

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that may be created. The new neighbor bylaw would regulate noise and use the new space on reasonable

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this as some noises expected from the business of type. The traffic regulation bylaw can be used to

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manage traffic and parking violations and would be managed by the bylaw enforcement department.

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Depending on traffic violations some finds may be issued. The business licensing bylaw would

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be used as part of the oversight as the business license would be required. A condition of the

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license could include the requirement of a street use permit in good standing should a business be found

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to operate outside the terms and conditions of the license finds it be issued.

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The soil management bylaw would be used by the engineering department as outlined

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so it will outline the permitted hours of operations. If operating outside of those hours or creating

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,160
noise complaints would be handled through the bylaw department, finds may be issued in an enforcement

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can be escalated to deem the property in nuisance should there be ongoing non-compliance.

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It should be noted that updates to the soil management bylaw are required to ensure all necessary

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:53,040
regulations of this activity are in place. It's often anticipated having these updates ready for

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consideration shortly and prior to final adoption of the bylaws that are subject to this public hearing.

710
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So, Pablo before you go back before you go to the next slide, did you? Is it just me or did you

711
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miss the fourth item on that last slide the development subdivision control bylaw?

712
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You spoke about business licensing and soil management, did you have comments on the fourth one or

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are more generally nature development and oversight so when the site gets built at creating and

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on-site development will be controlled by the development and subdivision control bylaw. Thank you.

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Transportation impact assessment to the satisfaction of the city and the Ministry of Transportation

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and Transit is required as a condition of rezoning and development. The figure shows that the two TIA

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study intersections that have low heat highway and all over street and rye avenue and all over street.

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The applicant has estimated 100 truck trips per day for 10 hours per day between 7 am and 5 pm. This means

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an average of 10 trucks per hour. The TIA is not finalized but preliminary analysis shows that the study

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intersections are expected to operate within acceptable thresholds. As per the engineering

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comments, all requirements and recommendations for improvements that are derived from the TIA

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are to be completed at the developer's sole expense. Transportation management plan is a site specific

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plan that identifies how road users will travel to from and through the site. A TMP is required by the

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applicant as a condition of adoption of the OCPM zoning amendments. The TMP would be part of the

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:47,760
business license and is expected to include considerations of how traffic from the site will be managed

726
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to reduce the impacts on surrounding road networks. How this plan will be communicated to the operators

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and all other relevant parties, how trucks stopping will be prohibited along all over street in front of the

728
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RCMP access. Measure to reduce congestion and queuing. For example, the applicant is indicated

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the gate would be placed within their site providing additional onsite storage space should any trucks

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be waiting to enter the site while the gate is closed. In addition, all vehicles must use the

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way scales when exiting the site which would help to dissipate traffic when leaving. At the February 7th

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meeting council asked for more information on how the TMP would be enforced. One of the conditions

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of the business license would be to enforce the regulation of the TMP through the business license.

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At the February 2nd meeting, council requested more information about how traffic would use all of

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street and information on impact on street parking. The existing on street parking on all of

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street is signed for RCMP use only. As part of the development proposal, all of our street is

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proposed to be extended by approximately 40 meters south from its current endpoint by adding to

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half-culticec as shown. This figure shows the proposed half-culticec at the end of all of our street

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and the proposed access to the summit site extending from the cul-de-sac. As shown, no change

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is to all of our street are anticipated north of the cul-de-sac. This image also shows the location

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of the potential area for lease parking for the RCMP in the red box directly adjacent to the current

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:45,680
RCMP site. This is a conceptual landscaping plan which has been provided by a registered landscape

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01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:52,320
architect. It provides a visual screening of the proposed sole remediation facility and associated

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:58,880
equipment equipment. The screen is intended to mitigate visual impacts from the adjacent low-heat highway

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01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,680
and surrounding properties.

746
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,520
Proposed soil washing facility can legally operate within the scope of activities outlined in the letter

747
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:18,160
from Keystone Environmental Data July 23rd, 2025 without the need for a provincial discharge authorization

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permit. The applicant is indicated that water from the wash plant and cell will be trucked off-site

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for disposal at another location. This is consistent with the applicant's project overview.

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:36,560
Application for a discharge authorization permit was received by the Ministry of Environment on January

751
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:44,160
14th of 26th is expected that an application like this will likely take between close to three years for a

752
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:49,760
approval. An amendment to the soil management by law will include activities,

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and facility facilities that include the soil washing facility. The applicant has recently provided

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01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:04,320
approval for their wrapper from the province to address setbacks from the adjacent water courses.

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In summary, staff of recommended consideration of third reading of both by-laws,

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a COC P amendment for contribute to the increase in the city's industrial land inventory.

757
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:22,960
The proposal aligns with this city emissions strategic plan which aims to increase the total number

758
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:29,120
of local jobs in office retail and industrial sectors. The applicant is indicated that the facility

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01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:34,160
will employ up to 14 individuals supporting local employment and economic development.

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The sole remediation component of the proposal will be subject to the soil management permit and

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:49,920
a business license and provincial authorization for the discharge of wastewater to the environment.

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That concludes the presentation. Thank you very much. I'll turn to our corporate officer to summarize the

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response we've received. Absolutely. We received.

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We received 12 submissions by the deadline. Six submissions were received in opposition to the subject application, expressing concerns regarding possible negative impacts from increased truck parking, regarding flow and access to local businesses, potential impacts to emergency vehicle access and response times.

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Environmental impacts related to water usage, waste disposal, truck and equipment, fuel emissions, noise, odor dust and light emissions.

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The visual impact of the site in its contribution to the overall welcoming appearance of the municipality, and assurances that regulatory requirements have been met.

767
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Force, written submissions were received in support of the subject application, speaking to how it supports emissions economy through job creation, support for local industries, and long-term confidence in the community.

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One written submission was received from the applicant in support providing assurance of local and Ministry of Environment, Regulation Compliance, methods for mitigating noise and light pollution, involvement in the local community, and commitment to investing significant funds into an internal staging area, and a mechanical wheel wash system to ensure clean and open roads.

769
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Thank you very much, and my understanding is that I think I heard that petition had been given to you later this evening.

770
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,000
Yes, set around 6 p.m. I received a petition from a resident.

771
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,000
Okay, thank you.

772
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:35,000
All right, so we're going to begin the process of opening the floor. I'll call for speakers three times, but we really do have most of our speakers list.

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So we'll start with Ms. Cooper going down the speakers list of the virtual participants.

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Then I'll turn to the in-person participants as is our practice here.

775
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:55,000
We have 20 people on the in-person list, so we will ask folks to be efficient because otherwise we will probably not get done this this evening.

776
01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:03,000
So, Ms. Cooper, would you please tell us who the first person is, and that person can be promoted to speaking?

777
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,000
Yeah, four attendees, but no race hands at this time.

778
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,000
I'm sorry, I should be really clear for the participants who are online.

779
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,000
If you are wishing to speak, please raise your hand.

780
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,000
If there's one that goes up now without personal speak, I will come back twice more.

781
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:26,000
So if you don't want to go first, you can wait, but I will come back to you after I've exhausted the in-person list.

782
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,000
So Ms. Cooper, go ahead with anybody who's online with their hand up now.

783
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,000
We have Justin Bond, who has raised his hand.

784
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,000
Mr. Bond.

785
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Mr. Bond, there we go.

786
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Mr. Bond, you can unmute yourself and we'll be able to hear you.

787
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,000
Okay, my better now.

788
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,000
You've at you.

789
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Okay, thanks for giving me the floor to you guys.

790
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:05,000
Sorry, I was in an accident last week and broke both vehicles where I plan to be their in-person.

791
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:13,000
I'm wishing to come on tonight and have a conversation about this.

792
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:18,000
It's during this hearing about this proposal of the site in the site's usage.

793
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,000
I'm against the usage of the site and I'll tell you why.

794
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:28,000
I'm very pro-business and I'm pro-business in mission and I'm very much.

795
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,000
I would consider myself an active leader in the community.

796
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:39,000
And the reason why I'm against this usage of this site is, is first of all.

797
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:46,000
I don't see a lot of other cities where their waste handling is in the core of the city.

798
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:54,000
And I'm going to tell you that that site, in my opinion, is in the core of the city and as mission grows, that will definitely be the core.

799
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:05,000
As we grow in expand, number one, number two is, is I've been neighbors with some of the earthworks for very many, many years.

800
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:18,000
And we have a petition signed by, I don't know, 70% of our employees about how their dead set against the usage on their current site.

801
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,000
We have rocks, we have mud all over our roads.

802
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,000
We've made endless by-law complaints.

803
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:31,000
I employ 140 people, and we're talking about developing this site to employ 14 people.

804
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:43,000
And every person that works for me, Paul, I had to buy, I bought a piece of land off of Saltera two years ago for $5 million to provide a parking lot for my employees to park on.

805
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,000
That come to work for me.

806
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:53,000
And the ones that are still parking on the road, they can't have a clean car for more than an hour.

807
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,000
We're having mere smashed off of cars.

808
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,000
We're having people almost get ran over by trucks.

809
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,000
Like we're in an industrial park where the current site is.

810
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,000
So I'm talking about where the current operation is.

811
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,000
The friendly neighbor situation is not being adhered to it all.

812
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,000
The wheel wash doesn't exist.

813
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:18,000
We have trucks that are lined up a kilometer long through the industrial park.

814
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:23,000
And I can go on for days and days and days about why this shouldn't be.

815
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,000
So what I'm trying to say is, okay, we're going to allow another site.

816
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:32,000
And we're going to allow the likes of Walmart, fat burger.

817
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:37,000
All those businesses there, the locksmith, Rhona.

818
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:43,000
The police station like all these people are all going to be affected inadvertently.

819
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
And I don't think they see it coming.

820
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,000
And I've been around these people for over a decade.

821
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,000
And I can tell you that we can't keep a clean window on our building.

822
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,000
We can't keep a clean car or parking lot.

823
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,000
We can't we build.

824
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,000
JDS I own JBS equipment.

825
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,000
If you guys don't know.

826
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,000
And we ship two machines a day.

827
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:10,000
The machine we ship is dirty because of all the dust in the air.

828
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,000
I like I said, I can go on for days and days and days about this.

829
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:20,000
But the facts are is based on in the industrial park that I'm in, which is silver creaky.

830
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,000
I have five or five properties there.

831
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:27,000
I'd have to count them up because I did some lot.

832
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,000
We're a big investor in this area.

833
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,000
We employ a bunch of people.

834
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,000
We are a huge GDP contributor to our city.

835
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:41,000
And as much as I love some of the earth works and the fact that they create revenue and create profit.

836
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Like all businesses should.

837
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,000
I'm not saying they shouldn't have a business.

838
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:50,000
I'm saying it shouldn't be in the core of our city.

839
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:55,000
I think that we're spending so much time and effort and talking about our waterfront and all this.

840
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,000
And the current site is on the waterfront and this one is really close.

841
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,000
Just separated by a train track.

842
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:06,000
And I just personally think that there's a better use for the land.

843
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:12,000
And I think that we could get or find a different site that would work just as good.

844
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,000
For the summer earth works people.

845
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:23,000
And the way that we've been working with them for the last decade has been nothing less than horrific.

846
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:29,000
So I don't believe anything of what the promises are in the last 30 days.

847
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,000
They've cleaned the roads.

848
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,000
They've done all these measures where there's pictures that have been brought to you guys tonight to see

849
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,000
and all of our submissions, etc.

850
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,000
But nothing went on for the last 10 years.

851
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:46,000
This is all happened in the last 30 days trying to polish an old penny up to make it look like a new penny.

852
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,000
That's all that's happening here.

853
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,000
Thank you very much Mr. Bond.

854
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,000
Is that conclude your remarks?

855
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,000
Yeah, I will come back on the second round.

856
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Okay, thank you very much.

857
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,000
I look like we have a second person online with their hand.

858
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,000
Raise Ms. Cooper.

859
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,000
Actually, now we have another as well.

860
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:11,000
So go ahead and who's up next?

861
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,000
Ashley Fraser.

862
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,000
Sorry, if you'd say that again.

863
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,000
Ashley Fraser.

864
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,000
Ms. Fraser.

865
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,000
If you'd like to speak the floor is yours.

866
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,000
Well, it looks like we have Mr. Bond still out there.

867
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:28,000
So we'll give us a chance to promote you to speak her and give you the floor.

868
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,000
Just one second.

869
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:35,000
I'll tell you when I can see your name here.

870
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,000
Oh, it looks like we don't have your hand up anymore.

871
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,000
There we go.

872
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,000
Ms. Fraser, go ahead.

873
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,000
Thank you.

874
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,000
You can unmute yourself and the floor is yours.

875
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,000
I just wanted to say is someone who works within this city where this is proposed

876
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,000
rezoning is located.

877
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,000
I would like to express my support for the application.

878
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:02,000
In my view, the rezoning will help create valuable jobs and contribute positively to the local economy.

879
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:07,000
It also supports a well-established business that has been an active and reliable part of the commission

880
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,000
commission community now for almost 20 years.

881
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,000
Okay.

882
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:12,000
Thank you.

883
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,000
Before you go.

884
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:20,000
We need to have, I know Mr. Bond is from mission but I've forgotten to ask the last two speakers

885
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,000
where they're from.

886
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,000
Do I need to do that, Ms. Haber?

887
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,000
Yes, we do.

888
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,000
We add that.

889
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,000
So, Ms. Fraser, can you state the community you live in?

890
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,000
Sure.

891
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,000
Okay.

892
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,000
Thank you very much.

893
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Anything further, Ms. Fraser?

894
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,000
No.

895
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,000
Okay.

896
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,000
Thank you very much.

897
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,000
And we have a third person with their hand up right now.

898
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:48,000
I've got Mohammed Mahabab and will wait for a staff to put that person on the screen.

899
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:59,000
And I'll let you know, Mr. Mahabab, when I have you ready to unmute.

900
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,000
Looks like you're there.

901
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,000
I hope I have pronounced your name correctly, but to the floor is yours.

902
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,000
That was perfect.

903
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,000
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

904
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,000
I'm Mohammed Mahababab.

905
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,000
I'm from Surrey and I work in mission.

906
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,000
I'm speaking in support of this rezoning.

907
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:23,000
Mission and the region have a growing need for responsible, contaminated soil management.

908
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:30,000
And facilities like this address that need in a control, control, and regulated way.

909
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:37,000
What's important in this proposal is that it includes multiple layers of oversight,

910
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:45,000
including provincial environmental permits, a city soil management permit, and a transportation management plan.

911
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:53,000
That's all environmental and operational risk should be handled through clear conditions and accountability.

912
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:57,000
For these reasons, I support the rezoning.

913
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,000
Thank you very much, Mr. Mahabab.

914
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:07,000
And have you hang on if you want to potentially speak a second time, or you're welcome to sign up.

915
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,000
Ms Cooper, do we have, I think you said there were four folks.

916
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,000
Did the fourth person raise their hand?

917
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:20,000
Okay, so with that then, I'll come back to the online folks afterwards, but we'll start our in-person list now.

918
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,000
And again, I'll just remind folks to try and stick to the five minutes.

919
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,000
We begin tonight with Steve Sekora.

920
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,000
Steve, come on up.

921
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,000
Okay, thank you.

922
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,000
You're hard.

923
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,000
Okay, we'll first make sure I'll meet tonight.

924
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,000
Again, I'm here.

925
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,000
Mr. Sekora, would you do us a favor?

926
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,000
Sorry.

927
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,000
I've heard that.

928
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,000
That's perfect.

929
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,000
So again, I'm Steve Sekora.

930
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,000
I am a resident of mission here.

931
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,000
I'm here tonight to speak on behalf of JBS.

932
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,000
Again, Mr. Bond couldn't be here tonight due to an incident of each.

933
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Unfortunately, he doesn't obligate to stand on right now.

934
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,000
So that's not what he does.

935
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:57,000
I'm here tonight for the application of Summit Moving towards 24 hour period.

936
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,000
And adding up to 100 trucks a day.

937
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,000
Okay, with my background being safety.

938
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,000
This is absolutely no go for the Industrial Park admission.

939
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:15,000
I've submitted a petition from our comfy alone, which has almost 80, 80 signatures on it.

940
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,000
We do employ 140 people.

941
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,000
Okay, I didn't have enough time to get 144 signatures.

942
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,000
But I can tell you, if you reached out to any of these people on the petition,

943
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:29,000
and ask them their situation or their encounter, they will give you one.

944
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,000
We've had several companies.

945
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,000
We've had several employees vehicles being hit, damaged.

946
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:40,000
And the biggest thing is a risk to the safety.

947
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,000
Okay, and the environment.

948
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,000
You're telling me that there's stuff in place for the environment.

949
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:52,000
I submit as pitchers tonight documents to show that what they're doing is not working.

950
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,000
So if it's not working now, how is it going to work down the road?

951
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,000
Okay, I won't take five minutes here, Tom.

952
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,000
But I will tell you, this is a huge safety issue for the Industrial Park.

953
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,000
A dump site or a filled site does not belong.

954
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,000
And like Mr. Bond said in the heart of mission.

955
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,000
Okay, we employ 140 people.

956
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,000
We want to grow.

957
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:21,000
We're not going to be able to grow if we work in a place where we have to be concerned about our safety.

958
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,000
Thanks for the time.

959
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,000
Thank you.

960
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,000
Don't go away, Mr. Secor.

961
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,000
Let me ask a question based on something you said,

962
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,000
because I don't really know whether it was addressed to the presentation.

963
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,000
There was mention of 24-hour operation,

964
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,000
but I'm not sure where that particular aspect of things are.

965
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,000
There was something in your presentation, Mr. Public,

966
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:43,000
that said there was the ability within the business licensing to have conditions around ours.

967
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:50,000
Is that ability into the application that there would automatically be 24-hour hours of operation?

968
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,000
There's that a separate conversation.

969
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:58,000
It's not directly related to the zone or the OCP amendment,

970
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,000
but our understanding is that the onsite operation,

971
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:05,000
the processing of the soil would occur around the clock on some occasions,

972
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:09,000
but the majority of time delivery of material would occur in the,

973
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:13,000
I think it's six, seven a.m. to five p.m. to five p.m.

974
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,000
Until five during your presentation.

975
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,000
The trucks will largely come between eight and five,

976
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:24,000
but machines may be working on the site other hours.

977
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,000
Is that what I'm hearing?

978
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,000
Yeah, that's our understanding for the majority of the time,

979
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,000
and there would be modifications where they were accepting material after hours,

980
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,000
and the permitting could address that.

981
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,000
Okay, so there are a couple of examples in the municipality

982
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,000
where people have a few extra times a year.

983
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,000
I think the raceways, one of them, and others,

984
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,000
where they can ask for a few times a year for an extension,

985
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,000
is that how that would work?

986
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,000
Yeah, that's what we're expecting.

987
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,000
Okay, thank you.

988
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,000
I just wanted to make sure you had that in front of me.

989
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,000
One more thing, Mayor Hardt.

990
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,000
I just want to ask if you guys do approve this application

991
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,000
if you would just don't mind parking your cars down there.

992
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,000
I'm going to go have any for five days a week.

993
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,000
And just see what happens. Thanks.

994
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,000
Okay, thank you. Our next speaker is Bob Cowen.

995
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:15,000
Good evening. Hello. We're having us tonight. I just wanted to stand up here and oppose this idea as well.

996
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:24,000
We work on the corner of Yale Avenue 31413. You come across the bridge over Silver Creek and we're the first building on your left hand side.

997
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:28,000
The truck traffic that comes through there is amazingly dangerous.

998
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:36,000
We have vehicles parked on both sides of the road. Some of our employees have also been hit. They're vehicles, not themselves. Thank you, sorry.

999
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:44,000
And the dust and the just a control of it all is just out of control. It's very dangerous.

1000
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:48,000
And like Steve said, the safety aspect of it is horrendous.

1001
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:57,000
You know, just doing some quick math. If this motion moves forward, even from 8 to 5, if there's 100 trucks today, that's a truck every six minutes.

1002
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:04,000
So I don't know if you guys have done that math. Or if you do it every 24 hours, 100 trucks is 14 minutes.

1003
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:14,000
So that truck traffic alone in a populated area like we have here. We've got 50 plus employees, JBS. There's lazy construction.

1004
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:20,000
There's a smattering of other businesses around that are would be heavily disrupted by this behavior.

1005
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,000
So I just wanted to say that.

1006
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:30,000
Thank you very much. For the record, Ms. Hubbard, some folks are have businesses in mission, but they have residency elsewhere.

1007
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:36,000
And I think Mr. Cowan, your example of that, have a business here and you live in Maple Ridge.

1008
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:42,000
Is that okay? So do I need to say where people are from or ask them to?

1009
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,000
Well, we have your speakers list. So we will.

1010
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,000
Okay, great. Thank you. Next is Mr. Haas.

1011
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,000
Yourself.

1012
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:06,000
Here you. I'm Randy Haas. I live in mission. The long time resident.

1013
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,000
I just want to cover a couple of things. First off, traffic volume.

1014
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,000
And it's very confusing.

1015
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:31,000
I have a letter from the proponents lawyer because I claimed that there was going to be 100 trucks every 10 hours, which is what I think your overview says.

1016
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:36,000
They say 34 trucks in the AM 34 trucks in the PM.

1017
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,000
So morning, afternoon, 68 trucks.

1018
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:55,000
But there's one paragraph in here, or in a sentence, that says there's a TIA that says it's going to be 20 trucks in 20 trucks out per hour, a minute and a half per truck.

1019
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,000
That's in your own report.

1020
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:07,000
So it's very confusing. Is it 100 trucks? Is it 20 in 10 hours? Is it 40 trucks an hour going in and out?

1021
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:12,000
Or is it 34 truck? I think you got a lot of spleen in to do here.

1022
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:17,000
Because your report is very confusing. Second thing.

1023
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:21,000
There is just a positive one second. Mr. Haas, I'll tell you.

1024
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:26,000
It does look like the proponents are coming up and they can maybe answer some of that later on.

1025
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,000
And then if you wish to have a prayer to follow up, that's fine.

1026
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:41,000
And what it does say here, though, is that the 100 trucks in a 10 hour space was what the proponent said when they made their application.

1027
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:45,000
So I don't know where the 34 trucks comes from.

1028
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:50,000
There's hundreds of thousands of liters of water in that machine.

1029
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:55,000
And I know they say they're going to recirculate 100% of that water.

1030
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:03,000
Yet in their own report, it says that any wastewater that it'll be collected if it's contaminated water.

1031
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:08,000
It'll be trucked away from the site, which means it's not going to be 100% recycled again.

1032
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,000
It's very confusing when I read that.

1033
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:20,000
But what I do know is when you've got hundreds of thousands of liters of water in a machine, things go wrong from time to time.

1034
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,000
Not planned to, but a pipe burst, something happens.

1035
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:30,000
If that water escapes, it's going to trickle down into the river and into silver creek.

1036
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,000
This is a very, very sensitive environmental area.

1037
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:40,000
And I just think, I listen to what Justin Bond said, I couldn't agree more.

1038
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:45,000
This is it's a needed facility, but not where it's being proposed.

1039
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,000
This is the heart of our city.

1040
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:53,000
And I don't care what they say they can landscape out along the low heat highway.

1041
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,000
You get big piles of earth along the highway.

1042
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,000
I don't care what you can put 50 foot tall trees there.

1043
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,000
It just doesn't make sense.

1044
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,000
I don't think it can be landscape don't.

1045
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:08,000
I don't think that's an attractive site for entrance to our city.

1046
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,000
I don't think it sends the right message for a city.

1047
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,000
This is our core.

1048
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,000
And we are desperately short of industrial property.

1049
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:24,000
And there are many, many companies right now searching for spots to build in industrial sites, light in industrial.

1050
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:29,000
And I know that this property belongs to the proponent.

1051
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:37,000
So unless he were told, no, well, if this is turned down, I imagine he would look to repurpose that site,

1052
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,000
perhaps into something industrial, providing real jobs.

1053
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,000
14 jobs.

1054
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,000
I'm sorry.

1055
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,000
14 jobs.

1056
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Many of them at night, I think your report says that it's I think three at night and the balance in the day.

1057
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,000
It does say they are planning to go to a 24 hour operation.

1058
01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:04,000
They're going to start at 300,000 tons a year and then move to 600,000 tons a year when it's a 24 hour operation.

1059
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,000
And last one I want to touch on is noise.

1060
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:13,000
There is an apartment, a very large apartment that was just completed across the street.

1061
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,000
And above that new shopping center.

1062
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,000
And just look at the topography as sound will go right up that hill.

1063
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:24,000
When you have dump trucks dumping dirt if it's gravel, it slides off.

1064
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,000
Often dirt doesn't slide off that easily.

1065
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:32,000
And so the truck has to bang the box a little bit to get the dirt moving.

1066
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:38,000
And I know this because years ago I actually worked in government and then worked on trucking.

1067
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:44,000
And we talked a lot about noise mitigation and it's very tough to stop that.

1068
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,000
In the middle of the night, trucks banging will drive the people in that apartment nuts.

1069
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:50,000
So I'm sorry.

1070
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:54,000
I don't think you can mitigate the noise properly.

1071
01:36:54,000 --> 01:37:00,000
And the last thing I'm going to say is the report talks about the 700 meter ring road,

1072
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,000
which will allow the trucks to queue there.

1073
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:13,000
But the report that your report says it will mostly mitigate or it's likely mitigate.

1074
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:21,000
So I heard Justin Bond or somebody just said there could be trucks lined up as much as a kilometer long.

1075
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:26,000
Well I expect if the TIA report was correct.

1076
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:31,000
A truck every minute and a half going every three minutes in every and then out.

1077
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:40,000
That would be a minute and a half that would be a lot more trucks than could be lined up on that 700 meter road,

1078
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,000
where they're also loading and unloading.

1079
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:49,000
So I'm sorry, that many trucks in that location doesn't seem to make sense.

1080
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:55,000
And I'm pretty sure that if this goes ahead, you will have a lot of difficulty monitoring this.

1081
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,000
I don't know who's going to be on top of it watching it.

1082
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:07,000
But I can tell you this is not the right location for this particular and there are other locations.

1083
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:15,000
Like I would have thought somewhere near the near our landfill site would have made some good sense.

1084
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:20,000
Up in that area where there's already a lot of gravel pits that are pretty much exhausted.

1085
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,000
That would be a lot safer place to be going.

1086
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:27,000
So that, thanks. Thank you. Gordon Moses next.

1087
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,000
CMLC, Kwalskwalskwalskwalskwalskwalsk.

1088
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,000
Kwalskwalskwalskwalskwalskwalsk.

1089
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:44,000
Gordon Moses, my resident of mission for 46 years.

1090
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,000
I'm in favor of this development.

1091
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:51,000
My role in this particular project is not to do with the traffic or anything like this.

1092
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:59,000
My role has been essentially to do the heritage impact assessments of the property itself.

1093
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:06,000
And to ensure that there's proper mitigation in terms of the habitat offsets associated with this property.

1094
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:19,000
In conjunction with communications with local first nations, which involves mainly about 17 different first nations that have an interest in this particular area.

1095
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:28,000
So Silverdale Creek, the outlet of the creek for about 300 meters up from the mouth of the creek.

1096
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:35,000
That will be essentially rehabilitated or offset.

1097
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:40,000
So the materials, the invasive species there will be taken out by hand.

1098
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,000
There is an archaeological site that is there.

1099
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:47,000
I'm an archaeologist of 50 years. I'll be in charge of that component of it.

1100
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:52,000
Making sure that there is no intrusion into that archaeological site.

1101
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,000
I was doing the archaeological assessment of the property itself.

1102
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,000
There was no impact to it.

1103
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:05,000
And we put together a chance find procedure to ensure that the proper mitigation measures will be taken.

1104
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:10,000
If there is any type of impact is taking place with this.

1105
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:19,000
So I leave it there. I look at some of the earthworks as a very ethical company.

1106
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:23,000
I work with many different companies over the past 55 years.

1107
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:27,000
And some of it is the most ethical company I have worked with.

1108
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,000
And I would just like to mention one thing.

1109
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:35,000
All of these trucks are talking about will not be moving along Gil Avenue.

1110
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,000
Okay, they're not that's not part of the plan.

1111
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:40,000
Thank you very much.

1112
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:46,000
So to be clear, I thought that answers a question that I've been asked and I think it's important.

1113
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:54,000
The application would have would impact the removal of traffic on Gil are substantially reduced it.

1114
01:40:54,000 --> 01:41:00,000
I know that the aim is to have trucks going down Oliver, which is a very short road.

1115
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:07,000
And so would it remove vehicles from rent and from Gil that we currently have going through those ways?

1116
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,000
I'm not the transportation representative.

1117
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,000
One of the projects you can ask out of the the owners.

1118
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,000
Thank you.

1119
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,000
The next speaker will be able to help us with that.

1120
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,000
So Phil Van Larr is our next speaker.

1121
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:27,000
Hi, yeah. I'm Phil Valar and the president of some of the earthworks and I work in Mission.

1122
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,000
But I live in July.

1123
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,000
So, yeah.

1124
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,000
I appreciated the comments from everyone.

1125
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,000
I just want to get a little bit of background on some of it.

1126
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:40,000
It's over 60 employees and we've been in the environmental services sector for over 20 years.

1127
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:46,000
We've won multiple awards by the Ministry of Environment for our environmental rehabilitation work that we've done.

1128
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,000
And those awards are hard to get.

1129
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,000
So we've been recognized for excellence in that.

1130
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,000
We work closely with the Ministry of Environment.

1131
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:57,000
We have four other facilities that we receive contaminated soul at.

1132
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,000
And we've never had any issues with the Ministry of Environment.

1133
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,000
We've we are audited every year by them and we talked to them very closely.

1134
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,000
So yeah.

1135
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:07,000
So I just want to talk about the economy.

1136
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,000
Some of it's head office is in Mission.

1137
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:13,000
We have over 20 staff that work in that office and they go eat lunch.

1138
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:18,000
They go shopping and they go to restaurants almost every day.

1139
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:21,000
This new facility is going to have 14 new field workers.

1140
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,000
But there's going to be a lot more economic advantages.

1141
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,000
The mission.

1142
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,000
So we're receiving contaminated soul from sites in Mission.

1143
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,000
They get an advantage because typically you have to truck your soul.

1144
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,000
Extreme distances which cost lots of money.

1145
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:37,000
Having facility in mission lowers the construction cost of other development projects in mission.

1146
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:42,000
And there's a lot of sites close to the river that mission plans to develop that.

1147
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,000
Half contaminated soul in them.

1148
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:49,000
Having this there would greatly reduce the cost of the cleanup on those sites.

1149
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:55,000
Additionally, it meets the mission strategic focus number three, which is increasing.

1150
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,000
Increasing industrial land.

1151
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:04,000
So the rezoning here, we're rezoning for institutional to heavy industrial with light industrial applications as well.

1152
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:09,000
The actual contaminated soul facility approval isn't done by city mission.

1153
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,000
That's done by the Ministry of Environment.

1154
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,000
So just want to point that out.

1155
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:18,000
On the traffic studies we have hired an expert traffic consultants.

1156
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:23,000
And they have, I think, well, decades of traffic experience.

1157
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:28,000
They reviewed the the 100 trucks today, which is our peak expected traffic.

1158
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:31,000
100 trucks per day is our peak expected traffic.

1159
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,000
On average, we'd probably expect more like 30 to 40 trucks today.

1160
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,000
There are conclusions where that it would not significantly impact the traffic flow.

1161
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:47,000
So this site that from low we highway to our site, it's it's 10 times shorter distance than it is.

1162
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,000
Where it is right now, to our existing site, which is going on.

1163
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,000
Currently, you'll pass over 40 businesses.

1164
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,000
In here, you go past two two driveways.

1165
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,000
So it's only 150 meters long from the highway.

1166
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:02,000
This site is the perfect site for this location because it's so close to the highway.

1167
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:03,000
The trucks are going to come.

1168
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:06,000
They're going to meet legal 150 meters straight road.

1169
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,000
And then enter our site.

1170
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:13,000
There's no other site that has been close to this kind of accessibility.

1171
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:17,000
We've met in spoke with the RCMP and address their concerns.

1172
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:22,000
We have that in writing that they've acknowledged that we've dealt closely with them.

1173
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:26,000
So location, yeah.

1174
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,000
So close to the highway, it's a prior location.

1175
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,000
It's not close to the river.

1176
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,000
I know people keep saying that our current site is 10 times closer to the river than this site is.

1177
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:41,000
So this site is going to reduce traffic on Gill Avenue, which we have seen as a concern of businesses in that area.

1178
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:45,000
We started getting complaints from our current sites in the last few months.

1179
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:50,000
And we sent a letter out to all the businesses in the area to over 45 businesses received a letter,

1180
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:54,000
where we highlighted our plan, which is to do something similar to what we're doing here.

1181
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:59,000
Install a pressurized nozzle wheel wash that ensures that the...

1182
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,000
Might as removed. And to install the internal Q area, sooner to what this site has. So we're kind of learning from this site and

1183
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:14,000
implying it to the adjacent site based on conversations with adjacent business owners. Of the 45 business owners,

1184
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:19,000
most of them were just kind of surprised that we were even sending this letter. Most of them did not have any concerns at all.

1185
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:26,000
There were a few that did have concerns, of course, and you've heard some of tonight. So actually this site is going to address some of their concerns by reducing

1186
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:31,000
traffic on Gill Avenue, which we recognize is not ideal.

1187
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:41,000
On the noise and light pollution, we also hired a third-party environmental consultancy review the noise and light.

1188
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:46,000
We've done a light study and a noise study. The light study essentially said the lights on low,

1189
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:53,000
we're going to be just as bright as the lights in our facility. And the noise study essentially said that the noise from our site,

1190
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:58,000
even at night, will be similar or less than the traffic on low-heat.

1191
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:04,000
Again, the site is great because there's a CP rail track right there, and there's a low-highway. So there's two loud busy things going on.

1192
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,000
There's also a heavy industrial site, rate adjacent to the tracks.

1193
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:13,000
We only site, the site can't really be used for anything else. I mean, it's right beside a heavy industrial site.

1194
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:20,000
It's right beside the highway. We've perfect access. We've identified it as a spot that we use an experience

1195
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:25,000
technology, it's a good site for soil wash facility.

1196
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:32,000
The next thing I want to say is that soil wash facilities, they're monitored and approved by the Ministry of Environment for contaminated

1197
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:37,000
cells. But this is cutting edge technology. So it's not like we're taking stockpiles, dumping it in

1198
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:42,000
filling sites like some people have mentioned. We're not going to be filling anything. The soil gets dumped onto a concrete pad.

1199
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:48,000
Underneath the concrete pad is an impermeable liner. So contaminants can't escape, even if they did leak

1200
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:54,000
which we don't think would happen. The soil gets washed and it turns into a perfectly clean soil.

1201
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:59,000
And then that soil is resold and reused as recycled soil. So it's very beneficial to our economy.

1202
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:05,000
It creates a circular solution for soil disposal versus, right now, it's a linear solution, which is both soil.

1203
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:13,000
That's illegally dumped into farmers' fields, lots of them in vision, and then people have to pay to clean it up.

1204
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:18,000
So yeah, that's, you know, Mr. Anything else I think that's it.

1205
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:25,000
I just wanted to note that the vote tonight is for third reading on the rezoning to heavy industrial land and is not a vote on whether

1206
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:31,000
contaminated soil facility is approved here. That's done by the Ministry of Environment. So I want to thank you for that.

1207
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:32,000
And I will likely be coming back.

1208
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:36,000
Yeah, before you sit down, I just want to ask you to clarify something.

1209
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,000
So you have an existing facility down there this evening right now.

1210
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:47,000
And what you're asking to do in this application is to create a portion that allows the access to all of our street.

1211
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:51,000
But not to have a facility down there. You already have a facility.

1212
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,000
You already have a exact facility.

1213
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:57,000
The facility, this one's going to be much more advanced. So it'll be one of the most advanced in North America.

1214
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,000
Thank you. I'm sure there'll be others along the way.

1215
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:07,000
You can ask now, or it sounds like Mr. Bernard will come back later on. Why don't we wait until after we've heard from others and ask questions at the end.

1216
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:11,000
Is that okay?

1217
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,000
He'll be coming back.

1218
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:17,000
Well, he'll be here so we can ask him. Yes, we can ask him later.

1219
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:18,000
Okay.

1220
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:21,000
Thank you. We'll move on then. Thank you, Mr. Bernard.

1221
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:31,000
And we'll ask you if you do wish to speak a second time to put your name on the list or if you just want to make sure that you speak last to answer any questions.

1222
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,000
Then you can advise Ms. Bill upon in the hallway.

1223
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:42,000
Yeah. Well, if you want to just make sure that you come back after you've heard from others, it's up to you if you wish to do that.

1224
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:45,000
But when we are the other, I'll check with you.

1225
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:52,000
Next I have, I'm sorry I can't tell if I think it's Gary for me, but I'm sorry if I've written it wrong.

1226
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,000
Is that correct?

1227
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,000
Is it Gary or Guy?

1228
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,000
Here we go, Guy.

1229
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:06,000
Yeah, if just a side thing when I was a kid, my dad was the right handman for Peter Law.

1230
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:11,000
He'd so I grew up on the Alberta legislative lawn, but I never saw the inside.

1231
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,000
So this is the first time seeing inside and what you guys do here.

1232
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:14,000
And I think it's incredible.

1233
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:19,000
I just want to say thanks and understand how the democratic process works.

1234
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,000
I don't live in mission.

1235
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,000
I work and play in mission.

1236
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:28,000
And I work here and I come here and spend my money.

1237
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,000
And I like it here.

1238
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:35,000
But I've been down that kill road probably three or four hundred times.

1239
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,000
You know, and I've never been hit by a rock.

1240
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,000
And I've never been hit by a truck.

1241
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,000
And I've never seen the truck traffic crazy there either.

1242
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:52,000
So, I guess the way what they're going to be building is it's going to take that truck traffic away.

1243
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:57,000
So I guess that's important because that seems to be what people are complaining about.

1244
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:02,000
The other thing is somebody said something like 14 jobs and it's not a big deal.

1245
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:06,000
But I got four kids and you know, if I lost my job, it'd be a big deal.

1246
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:14,000
So I think everybody's employment support doesn't matter how many people work for your company or don't.

1247
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,000
You know, you take my job away.

1248
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,000
It's going to be tough on my family.

1249
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:25,000
So I'm in support of this because, you know, what I understand is that there's a lot.

1250
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:31,000
You know, when I was sitting here listening to everybody else talk, whether it was the doctors, you know,

1251
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:35,000
They're experts help and people with stuff making things better.

1252
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,000
And then there was the school people.

1253
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,000
And they're experts help in these kids learn stuff.

1254
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,000
And, you know, they're learning about new technologies and how to apply them.

1255
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,000
And you guys are all in support of that kind of stuff.

1256
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,000
So, you know, that's kind of what these guys are doing too.

1257
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,000
They're experts.

1258
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:54,000
I work with engineers and scientists and I work with, you know, I don't have those degrees,

1259
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:58,000
but, you know, we're pulling people in that are good and they're smart.

1260
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:02,000
And they know what they're doing and, you know, they have permits from, you know,

1261
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:08,000
the Ministry of Environment and Environmental Management Association of British Columbia.

1262
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,000
And they solve big problems every day and it's not easy work.

1263
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,000
That's what I know.

1264
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,000
But I know it's good work.

1265
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:20,000
And, you know, I'm proud to work for that company.

1266
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:24,000
So, I just wanted to say that, yeah.

1267
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:30,000
I think that what they're doing is right for the economy and mission.

1268
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:41,000
I think it's going to bring people in that are, you know, like I said, professionals that are going to add to what's going on here.

1269
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,000
And, uh, thanks for your time.

1270
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,000
Thank you.

1271
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,000
I'm sorry for getting your first name wrong.

1272
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,000
The next person is also at risk of having their first name wrong.

1273
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:59,000
I believe it says Nishant Taylor, if I'm not mistaken, but if I am, I'm sure I'll be corrected.

1274
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,000
I'm Nishant Taylor.

1275
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:06,000
I have been working in City of Mission for like 80 years now.

1276
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,000
I am Environmental Scientist.

1277
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:13,000
And I have been like, you know, seeing like, you know, what some of the other works does.

1278
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:18,000
Like, you know, I do understand, like, you know, the decision of like, you know, whether, you know,

1279
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:22,000
side gets used as a soil washing or not that will be decided by the province.

1280
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:26,000
But I have done my research in like, you know, soil washing.

1281
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:32,000
And this is like, you know, the technology, like, you know, which people have been studying for long.

1282
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,000
And I would say, like, you know, people have been like, you know, I guess,

1283
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:44,000
asking questions, you know, whether like, you know, if it's a right place to have this site used as soil washing or not.

1284
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:50,000
In my opinion, I guess, you know, this is the perfect site to show, you know, what city of mission is committed to.

1285
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:59,000
Like, you know, that we are like, you know, giving approval to the businesses, like, you know, who are trying to like, you know, be an environment friendly business.

1286
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:05,000
This soil washing equipment will do like, you know, reduce recycle.

1287
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:11,000
And, you know, we are going to be like, you know, having like, you know, aggregates produce of a soil.

1288
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:16,000
Being an environmental scientist, I follow like, all the regulations, what's happening outside.

1289
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:24,000
I have been reading in, I guess, news, like, you know, agricultural land commission has been finding that.

1290
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:28,000
Trucking companies are just, you know, owning a piece of land or agricultural land.

1291
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:33,000
And they are taking all the contaminators soil and they are contaminating the land.

1292
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:39,000
Everything goes to the water and like, you know, it affects, like, you know, like, you know, community.

1293
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:46,000
So having a soil washing facility, like, you know, which is lying, everything like, you know, getting like, you know,

1294
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:50,000
like in a managed, like, you know, responsibly, especially those guys are, I guess,

1295
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:54,000
monitor by, like, get ministry and everything.

1296
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:59,000
So I would say, like, you know, I'm in favor of like, this development, especially like, you know,

1297
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:06,000
saying, like, cutting-edge technology coming to like, you know, city of mission and supporting the, like, you know,

1298
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,000
jobs, which comes with it.

1299
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,000
Thank you very much.

1300
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:15,000
Next is, I thought I had the messiest rating at city hall, but it might be that this might be the hardest list.

1301
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,000
I've never seen to read.

1302
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:23,000
So I believe it says Jason Christensen is next is that if I've got the name correct.

1303
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,000
Excellent.

1304
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:30,000
Mr. Christensen, you wouldn't happen to be a doctor would you with this, this rating?

1305
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,000
Because we, as you heard earlier, we're looking to recruit.

1306
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,000
Go ahead, sir.

1307
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,000
I'm a resident of Langley.

1308
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:41,000
I'm here to speak, so you can favor of this application.

1309
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:48,000
So for remediation programs in the Lower Mainline, most of that soil is directed to landfill,

1310
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,000
currently.

1311
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:55,000
And which removes valuable gravels and sands for, for use.

1312
01:54:55,000 --> 01:55:00,000
So soil washing has been successfully used in their lands for over 30 years.

1313
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,000
Where soil disposal is not allowed there.

1314
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:08,000
So they return the clean soils and gravels for use, and it's available product,

1315
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:11,000
which think be reused offset the cost.

1316
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:16,000
The water from the soil washing is treated and reused.

1317
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:20,000
The water on the site would be collected, sort of rainwater would be collected,

1318
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:24,000
any contact water would be collected on site, and then it used in the process.

1319
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,000
There's a groundwater required.

1320
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:31,000
And there's some water lost as the soil is removed from the treated water.

1321
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:35,000
It's already three to soils removed from the facility, so it's a negative,

1322
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,000
as it just needs it out of just no water.

1323
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:44,000
But as certain types of soil is treated, such as their salt in the water, it's difficult to remove.

1324
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:50,000
And so there's going to be periods of time when there is going to be some water required for offsite disposal.

1325
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:56,000
The other thing is that landfills are the main source of soil disposal,

1326
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,000
but there are very few new landfills coming online.

1327
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:07,000
And I fear as those start coming offline, we won't have places to send the soil.

1328
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:13,000
And then that leads to other issues, such as the soil ending up on agricultural land, which is a major issue.

1329
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,000
So that's all I have.

1330
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,000
Thank you very much.

1331
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:22,000
Just before we have our next speaker, if you're out in the lobby, a couple of things.

1332
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,000
There are a few more chairs available.

1333
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:29,000
But second, if you're out there, because we have people in the lobby this evening,

1334
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,000
we can't close the door.

1335
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:35,000
And so if you're speaking out there, you're audible in here.

1336
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:39,000
So we'll ask folks to make sure that they're being aware of that.

1337
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:42,000
Thank you, Mr. Christensen, you can go back to your seat.

1338
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:49,000
So if you're in the hallway, please go outside to speak so that we don't have a background echo.

1339
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,000
Thank you.

1340
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:59,000
Our next speaker is Miles Hargrove.

1341
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:00,000
Good evening.

1342
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,000
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

1343
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:06,000
My staff here has been pretty exemplary and speaking highly about our company.

1344
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,000
And I want to thank you guys for that.

1345
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:14,000
I think primarily, I don't want to reiterate the same stuff that they're keep on saying.

1346
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,000
Obviously, there's concerns with the community.

1347
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:20,000
It regards to traffic, mud, dust, lighting, all those things.

1348
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,000
I think they are addressed.

1349
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:27,000
I think moving forward with this project is going to be producing the traffic.

1350
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:33,000
And most of the concerns that are actually happening in the Gil Silverdale Industrial Park.

1351
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,000
Thank you.

1352
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,000
So I'm sure we'll end up having some questions for you, Mr. Van Larrb.

1353
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,000
And I'm assuming you're going to stick around until the end of the public hearing.

1354
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:41,000
So, okay.

1355
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:42,000
Thank you.

1356
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,000
Excellent.

1357
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:44,000
Thank you very much.

1358
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:50,000
Our next speaker is Wally Berg.

1359
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,000
Evening, Mayor and Council.

1360
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:56,000
Thank you for allowing us all to speak today.

1361
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,000
I'm Walter Berg.

1362
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:02,000
I'm a mission resident, homeowner, and I choose to live in Mission.

1363
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:05,000
I have two children who attend school in Mission.

1364
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:07,000
One at Heritage Park.

1365
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:11,000
And one at Mission Secondary School.

1366
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:14,000
I've been living in Mission since 2011.

1367
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:19,000
I work for somebody who works in Benefit from a daily commute that is 10 minutes or less

1368
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,000
from my residents.

1369
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:23,000
What more could you ask for?

1370
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:29,000
I worked on projects in North Vancouver, Vancouver, working in Mission Eliminates.

1371
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:33,000
A minimum of three hour daily commute.

1372
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:39,000
As a mission resident, I believe this project is good business for mission, offering steady employment

1373
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,000
and sustainability for the environment.

1374
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,000
I support this project.

1375
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:49,000
It's not just my livelihood, but also that of my children as well too.

1376
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:50,000
So, thank you.

1377
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,000
Thank you very much.

1378
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:58,000
Our next speaker is Trevor Mackie.

1379
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,000
I can tell that Mr. Mackie just loves public speaking.

1380
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,000
Hi, I'm Trevor Mackie.

1381
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,000
I live here in Mission.

1382
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,000
I've worked for somebody who works for 10 years now.

1383
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:15,000
Three years ago, I decided to move instead of traveling from Langley.

1384
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,000
I decided to move here.

1385
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,000
So, I'm lucky enough to own here.

1386
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,000
I'm in favor of this.

1387
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:26,000
I think it's the perfect spot, especially with all this industrial land just south of us.

1388
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,000
And let's put it.

1389
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:29,000
Thank you very much.

1390
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:30,000
Thank you.

1391
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,000
Next, we have Lucas Hargrove.

1392
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,000
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

1393
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,000
I'm a mission resident.

1394
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,000
And I've lived here for most of my life.

1395
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,000
I've worked for some of the earthworks.

1396
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:47,000
And I want to reiterate what Gordon said.

1397
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:51,000
That summit is an honorable and an ethical company.

1398
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:57,000
They talk about there's only 14 jobs that are being created by it's not necessarily true.

1399
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,000
We're a growing company.

1400
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:00,000
We've...

1401
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,000
Start with one dump truck driver, and now we're up to a dozen, and that's going to continue growing, and that's a lot of those drivers are mission residents.

1402
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:23,000
These are also high paying jobs, like laser living wages that you get from these jobs, and I think that it's a great spot.

1403
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:35,000
Close to the road, close to the highway, you have tons of other industrial work going on around there, and yeah, I'm in support of this. Thank you very much.

1404
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:38,000
Jude Marcellus is next.

1405
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:52,000
Very the folks in the back row there, your chances of getting elbow tonight are have escalated quite high.

1406
02:00:52,000 --> 02:01:02,000
I'm Jude Marcellus on third generation permission, my grandparents being a doctor, Marcellus and Catherine Marcellus from mission as well.

1407
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:07,000
I'm here. I work for Summit, and I'm grateful for the employment from them.

1408
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:14,000
Thank you very much, and thank you to your family for the room of Dendra, and that is our city flower. Excellent. Kyle Hargrove.

1409
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:36,000
I'm Kyle. I'm a resident of mission. I just wanted to basically explain that I think Summit Earthworks is very open to working with the community and adapting to some of the problems that some of us say local communities have problems with.

1410
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:51,000
And I'm in favor of the current rezoning of the site. Thank you very much. Next we have Brandon Dylan.

1411
02:01:51,000 --> 02:02:01,000
You need Marin Council. My name is Brandon Dylan. I've been a local resident for over a decade here. I've been a grateful employee for Summit Earthworks for over five years.

1412
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:09,000
And I'm here today to speak in support of the proposal of the soil washing facility.

1413
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:15,000
This project is in just about building the facility. It's about building an opportunity in mission right now.

1414
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:20,000
There are a large number of truck drivers in our community who are struggling to find a consistent local work.

1415
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:26,000
Many of them are forced to commute long distances all the way to Vancouver, just a secured single day of work.

1416
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:31,000
That means more time away from their families, more fuel costs, more wear and tear on equipment.

1417
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:38,000
And more stress on working on working households, a soil washing facility here in mission changes that.

1418
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:46,000
Yes, it creates jobs within the facility itself, operators, technicians and mission staff, but often what's overlooked is the ripple effect.

1419
02:02:47,000 --> 02:03:01,000
This type of operation generates steady ongoing demand for trucking. This means more local, local hauling contracts, more stable income for drivers and more small trucking companies, small trucking companies for being able to survive and grow.

1420
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:11,000
These are hardworking people. Many of them are small business owners who simply want to chance to work close to home support their families and contribute to their local economy.

1421
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:15,000
Keeping this work in mission means more local spending in our shops.

1422
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:25,000
More economic activity circulating within our city, less unnecessary commuting to the lower mainlands and stronger stability and trades for trucking in their families.

1423
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:32,000
This facility represents an economic development that supports a real blue collar families in our community.

1424
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:44,000
I would like to ask the council to consider not just the facility itself, but the broader impact you'll have on the local employment on many drivers and who are simply looking for consistent work closer to home.

1425
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:46,000
Thank you for your time and consideration.

1426
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,000
Thank you.

1427
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:50,000
Next I have Madison Chapman.

1428
02:03:51,000 --> 02:04:00,000
I live in my village now, but I grew up here. I went to school to see you.

1429
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:04,000
I know Mark from Mission Avers and I know Angel from her saying when to school to me.

1430
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:07,000
So I think I know a lot of people in this room.

1431
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,000
I wish there are more young people here.

1432
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,000
I think I'm the youngest one of this room.

1433
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:12,000
This is a little scary.

1434
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,000
I won't talk about the trucking at the complaints or anything else.

1435
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:21,000
I'll just talk about what I think this will benefit and I think it's the young people.

1436
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:31,000
The future is a little scary right now and it's not always fun positive things, but I think the chance to have something in Mission that's like leading and it's new and exciting.

1437
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:34,000
We great for people like me, but also people like you.

1438
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:37,000
It can be great for your children and I know your kids are like my age.

1439
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:45,000
So I think the benefits that this could bring to Mission not only the jobs, not only the opportunities, but just the advancement and the exciting part of

1440
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,000
bringing people to Mission would be really beneficial.

1441
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:49,000
That's all.

1442
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,000
Very much, Mr. Chapman.

1443
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:56,000
And just in case there's a contest between you and Mr. Christensen.

1444
02:04:56,000 --> 02:05:01,000
You slightly win on the messy writing just to let, you know.

1445
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:04,000
Next we have Nikki or Haloran.

1446
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:10,000
Nikki or Haloran is my next speaker.

1447
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:14,000
I did see a couple of folks leave, so perhaps that's who it was.

1448
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:19,000
I'll call one more time for Nikki or Haloran.

1449
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:23,000
In the lobby there, is there anybody with that name?

1450
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Doesn't look like it, but if the person has not left, it can always get back on the list.

1451
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:39,000
Next it looks like we have a duet from Vanessa Walker and Chelsea Bandman who was chosen to speak together, I understand.

1452
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:42,000
Excellent.

1453
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,000
Are you coming together?

1454
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:45,000
Are we are excellent.

1455
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,000
I live in the stream.

1456
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:49,000
We've been waiting for.

1457
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:53,000
Well I figured I might go over five minutes, so if I do I'm a tiger in and then I still follow.

1458
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:54,000
I'm not on that one.

1459
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:55,000
You're right.

1460
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:56,000
You're right.

1461
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:57,000
You're right.

1462
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:58,000
You're right.

1463
02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,000
You're right.

1464
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,000
You're right.

1465
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:01,000
I'm at four minutes and 49 seconds.

1466
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,000
I think we're going to be okay.

1467
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:06,000
My name is Vanessa Walker and I'm a homeowner here in Mission BC.

1468
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:07,000
I'm opposed to approving this site on the 3188 low heat highway.

1469
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:13,000
I would also like to note that the people who called in primarily don't live in Mission and those were the ones who were in support.

1470
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,000
So just kind of pointing that out.

1471
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:20,000
The reality is that this approval changes long term future for the site.

1472
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:28,000
The application is described as enabling a contaminated soil cleaning and recycling facility on a portion of the subject site.

1473
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:35,000
The portion of the subject site is what kind of worries me because I feel like that leaves room for an additional industrial use and expansion.

1474
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:38,000
Once the land use and zoning are changed.

1475
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:42,000
The custom CV 60 zoning is also a little bit too broad.

1476
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:51,000
The city is proposing a custom zone created for this project so that would include light industry heavy industry light manufacturing waste resource management and warehouse.

1477
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,000
Plus general office.

1478
02:06:53,000 --> 02:07:00,000
That opens the doors to much wider set of industrial uses that what many residents here might not know where even weighing in on today.

1479
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:04,000
I will note that there were a few amendments made that we couldn't really hear in the back.

1480
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:11,000
Yeah that caused you and don't worry we won't take away from the final term to Mr. Pablo to explain what a CD zone does.

1481
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:22,000
It's just a unique zone that allows a more tailored use of the site but Mr. Pablo you can explain it better than I.

1482
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:29,000
As noted in the presentation the the applicant is proposing to use the majority of the site for the soil washing facility.

1483
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:34,000
And then the the narrower strip between that facility and all over.

1484
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:41,000
There is some future potential there for something that might be light industrial or more of an office base use.

1485
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:57,000
That is what has been proposed and that's why the strategy was to blend the the IMPP one zone and the industrial waste management zone together to facilitate the use of this piece of land.

1486
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,000
So I'm going to flip ahead to the next.

1487
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:13,000
For me, I see this as a location creating a bit of a safety and community compatibility program as a lot of people stated the ones who do live here in mission this is our mission core.

1488
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:26,000
This should be a space for mission residents and local businesses to build companies create accessible jobs and build up pride and long term economic activities in our own city not permission to lose commercial growth and land to heavy industrial operations.

1489
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:35,000
It is also immediately beside the RCMP detachment with which we have all discussed and the RCMP did mention that this was their emergency route and.

1490
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:41,000
Not to mention there's lots of homes and people commuting on this road as well so it's important for all of us that it remains.

1491
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:47,000
For you last there's lots of I'm sorry to the last part of what you said I just missed your last sentence.

1492
02:08:48,000 --> 02:09:11,000
Something you said not to mention people on the road and I didn't catch it I'm sorry not to mention that this is kind of our familiar road from most people to get through through mission they go to their jobs the the RCMP meet this route in order to respond quickly to the things that are happening in our city so I would like to keep that road not clogged up with trucks ideally.

1493
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:19,000
The traffic here is not just a inconvenience it increases collision risk congestion noise and air pollution for the people who live and work here.

1494
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:22,000
And as I said the RCMP already made their comments.

1495
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:30,000
What I like to talk about is the scale and intensity of this operation the package just grabbed processing up to 300,000 tons.

1496
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:38,000
Just in one year and then they go up to over 600,000 tons annually within five years with potential operations going 24 hours which I know was.

1497
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:49,000
I was discussed what even if we're looking at that 10 hour window of the 100 inbound trucks 100 outbound trucks that's one trip every three minutes and that is a lot of traffic on our roads.

1498
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:55,000
The level of tonnage and truck movement brings noise emission dust road where and a safety risk.

1499
02:09:55,000 --> 02:10:04,000
The environment should it was be taken into consideration whenever we're discussing future projects the environmental and floodplain setting makes it risk you're not safer.

1500
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:15,000
One of the gentlemen here said that the site is not that close to the river but I would remind him that when you live in the Fraser Valley when you're next to the Fraser River the river finds you sometimes and you're not always prepared for it.

1501
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:33,000
There is lots of wetland and development permit areas like the E1 the E2 the DPAF and the DPAG for geotechnical so floodplain plus contaminated soil handling plus outdoor stockpiles is a combination that demands the highest standard of containment and oversight.

1502
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:42,000
And it should be in an appropriate location if all the reasons I listed were not enough after reviewing the engineering reports which should be honest was a tough read for me.

1503
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:59,000
But I got through it and I did find that they flagged some service in runoff concerns engineering states that the minimum water main for this land uses 250 millimeters but all of a street has an existing 200 millimeter water main so that infrastructure does not support this project.

1504
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:08,000
Additionally the city does not guarantee fire flow engineering also states that there is no municipal storm sewer on Oliver Street and at the site.

1505
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:18,000
The site is bordered on MOTI ditches culverts and water courses in this setting storm water containment and runoff control control should not be optional.

1506
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:26,000
The oversight plan creates a long enforcement gap I know someone else brought this up but they are going to be accepting soil prior to provincial authorization.

1507
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:43,000
When I read the report in this binder that means it falls to us so the municipality to approve it and that doesn't sound too bad to be monitoring until you realize it could take 1.5 to 4 years 4.5 years for the provincial government to start monitoring it and that means that's a lot on our city.

1508
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:44,000
On page.

1509
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:54,000
If you want to take it from your time I'm going to ask staff two things the first I'm going to ask a planning and then the second I'll go to Mr. UNI to either answer or delegate to somebody else.

1510
02:11:54,000 --> 02:12:02,000
On the service capacity at this road the question of fire and the size of the main and so forth can you clarify.

1511
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:09,000
Ms. Topfits probably actually your question but do you need a chance to look that up and I'll come back to you.

1512
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:25,000
Okay no problem I'll do that. Mr. UNI on the question this has been raised before Mr. Public spoke about it a little bit before but what is the role of the city I think there's been an assumption that the city would be required to oversee.

1513
02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:36,000
The environmental values here as opposed to things like trucks and dust and light which we do have domain on can you explain what the city would be involved in in regulating.

1514
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:46,000
I think in general terms the city would be involved like with any other business so if there are complaints received we would invest in those complaints for non-compliance with existing bylaws.

1515
02:12:46,000 --> 02:13:05,000
I think with respect to the provincial or provinces role in permitting the city won't issue a permit other than if the soil management bylaws is amended but in terms of the provincial role I think it might be worthwhile asking the applicant about how that provincial permit works.

1516
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:08,000
And what they can do prior to the receiving the permit.

1517
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:23,000
We'll do that later and I don't know whether you can answer this or they can but it strikes me that with or without a permit if there was run off issue into a stream for example that would still be an MOE domain not a city of mission domain is that correct.

1518
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:47,000
Yes in general if it is a discharge direct direct to the environment then that would be provincial domain however our staff often are the first kind of responders on environmental things like that and we'll report to the province if it's a discharge from their site to our storm sewer then that is a regulatory issue for us to to deal with.

1519
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:54,000
Is tough did you find the answer that yes I can confirm there's a 200 mail doctor line water supply on all of that.

1520
02:13:54,000 --> 02:14:04,000
The question was asked is it required to be at 250 or is the capacity at 200 enough and I can come back to you if you need to look that up further.

1521
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:15,000
Well it's in the engineering report so an analysis would have been done of the required flow to the development based on the bylaws so it's 250 for the supply.

1522
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:22,000
It would either be existing is enough or it would be a condition of adoption if they did have to increase it correct.

1523
02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:32,000
So if it isn't the right size that would be a precondition of the proponent to bring the size up to take a pass.

1524
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:38,000
That create further construction on the same road that we're trying to block traffic from kind of building on though.

1525
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:46,000
So if we have to construct the the water mean that likely going to cause construction in the area on top of everything else would it not.

1526
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:50,000
It's a water mean needed to be installed under the road.

1527
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:56,000
It would I'm sure we'd involve some digging and resurfacing.

1528
02:14:56,000 --> 02:15:00,000
Yeah so my point to all of that is the infrastructure.

1529
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,000
So, there, so I don't see why we're trying to fit something into a mold when other places do exist.

1530
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:09,000
It is a lot of extra work on the city, especially with the monitoring.

1531
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:15,000
I know we were trying to find where that was said, but I believe it was page 54 where they put down,

1532
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:23,000
I don't know, sorry, page 55 that prior to soil receiving provincial authorization approval, it would be under the municipality.

1533
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:30,000
And on page 16 of the information package, it states that the current municipal regulations do not contemplate a facility such as this.

1534
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:34,000
So it is kind of even out of our wheelhouse and we're taking it on as a city.

1535
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:39,000
I point is, you're looking at a report that's an older report and we've had updated information.

1536
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:41,000
So that's the one that's listed on the website right now.

1537
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:48,000
That's one report on page 15 and 16 that you talked about was from 2025, so we had further information.

1538
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,000
Thank you very much.

1539
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:54,000
So Ms. Benman, I think you're next, right?

1540
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,000
I'm taking your bit.

1541
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:58,000
I'm just going to go rogue instead.

1542
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:00,000
And keep it short.

1543
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:01,000
I'm also opposed.

1544
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:04,000
I've lived in mission my whole life.

1545
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:09,000
And I own one of the properties that's in that new complex that's just across the way.

1546
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:12,000
So I'm personally invested in this.

1547
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:17,000
And I'm concerned about many of the same issues that other people raised.

1548
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:25,000
You know, noise, traffic, logistical concerns is to dust and such.

1549
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:30,000
And I am also worried about if these issues do come to pass,

1550
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:37,000
and you have all of those residents in our complex with issues because we're there all the time.

1551
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:44,000
The amount of complaints that you're going to get to the city and the amount of workload that that's going to be on your behalf

1552
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:49,000
and take away from other things that can be worked on other initiatives.

1553
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:54,000
It's just going to be a vast workload increase to deal with all of these complaints.

1554
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:56,000
And that's all I'll say.

1555
02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:57,000
Thank you very much.

1556
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:58,000
Thank you.

1557
02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:59,000
Thank you both of you.

1558
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:02,000
Our next speaker is, I'm sorry if I don't get the name spell.

1559
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:04,000
It's not the sprinting fault.

1560
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:08,000
Lucas Agagne, do I have it correct?

1561
02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:18,000
Greetings counselors.

1562
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:19,000
My name is Lucas.

1563
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:21,000
I'm a resident of July.

1564
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:22,000
And I work in mission.

1565
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:26,000
I also play board games in Abbott'sford.

1566
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:29,000
So, and I go all over the valley.

1567
02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:35,000
But, so just one thing we do have a wheel wash on our site.

1568
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:41,000
I just want to point that out.

1569
02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:45,000
You know, I'm in the prime of my life working for this company.

1570
02:17:45,000 --> 02:17:47,000
I've been there for about a year.

1571
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:52,000
They seem to be people that really care about the community and the work we do.

1572
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:56,000
And I really care about the work we do.

1573
02:17:56,000 --> 02:18:00,000
I put in a lot of time and a lot of effort.

1574
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:05,000
And I really try to take care of the site, try to take care of the environment.

1575
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:09,000
And I think that's, that's all I really have to say.

1576
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:10,000
Thank you very much.

1577
02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:11,000
I appreciate it.

1578
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:19,000
Mr. Neil Smith is next.

1579
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:23,000
Just as Mr. Smith is coming to the microphone for the folks who are going to be online,

1580
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:24,000
who wish to speak.

1581
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:28,000
I'll let you know that after Mr. Smith, I'll be going back to virtual participants.

1582
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:33,000
So, if you wish to speak and you have not spoken, Ms. Cooper will go to you first.

1583
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:37,000
If you wish to speak for a second time, as long as you're not bringing something else up,

1584
02:18:37,000 --> 02:18:40,000
that has already been asked or raised by another speaker.

1585
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:41,000
You can speak a second time.

1586
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:43,000
Thank you for your patience, Mr. Smith.

1587
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:44,000
The floor of yours.

1588
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:45,000
Thank you.

1589
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:46,000
My name is Neil Smith.

1590
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:49,000
I am a resident of mission.

1591
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:55,000
I've been trying to get myself up to speak on this because I've been away for a little while.

1592
02:18:55,000 --> 02:19:01,000
And when I first heard about it, I was quite enthusiastic in the knowledge that there's been a lot

1593
02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:04,000
of illegal dumping in the area.

1594
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:09,000
So, the idea of somehow diverting that,

1595
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:15,000
has looked promising to me before I go on on that point.

1596
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:23,000
I just don't know me that it's very hard to persuade somebody that something is true

1597
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:28,000
when their job depends on them not believing it to be true.

1598
02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:32,000
I don't think that's the problem with this project.

1599
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:41,000
I think a lot of people like myself are quite enthusiastic about having a cleaning project.

1600
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:44,000
It's the location that's the problem.

1601
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:47,000
Not the job creation or lack of job creation around it.

1602
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:49,000
It's the location.

1603
02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:54,000
And I started off very open-minded about this,

1604
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:59,000
but the more I read about it, the more skeptical I became.

1605
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:04,000
I think the whole project got off to a really rocky start back in 2021

1606
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:08,000
when Keystone Environmental did an assessment,

1607
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:12,000
which, fortunately, the city,

1608
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:17,000
inspected later and discovered that they've actually been,

1609
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:21,000
I'm trying to avoid that this strong word.

1610
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:27,000
Let's say they were all being disingenuous about the nature of the site.

1611
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:32,000
So when they were the court in this,

1612
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:38,000
I still try to avoid that word,

1613
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,000
but I think you understand where I'm going.

1614
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:48,000
I'm wondering why that particular environmental assessment agency

1615
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:52,000
is the one that they go back to a few years later.

1616
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:58,000
They already gave a not very good report in the first place

1617
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:01,000
that they had to do some remedial work on,

1618
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:08,000
which the city itself described as an atypical response

1619
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:14,000
to basically being misled about the nature of the site.

1620
02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:19,000
So that was a big red flag for me,

1621
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:22,000
the environmental assessment company,

1622
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:24,000
very early on,

1623
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:31,000
misled the city about the nature of that site from the environmental perspective.

1624
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:35,000
I later, I continue reading through these,

1625
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,000
the city's report on this project,

1626
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:42,000
and there was an reference to another geotech company,

1627
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:44,000
because name was Sterling,

1628
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:49,000
and he referenced that the Fraser River is 150 meters away,

1629
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:52,000
so it's not a problem.

1630
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:58,000
So I was trying to access the full report on that.

1631
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:00,000
I don't know if it's publicly available,

1632
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:03,000
because I'd really like to read the full report,

1633
02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:08,000
because the summit Earthworks reference to it,

1634
02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:11,000
which is just a quote from his report.

1635
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:15,000
And I think we all know that you can easily,

1636
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:19,000
and take a small piece of a big report

1637
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:22,000
to make it look like it's supporting what you say.

1638
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:24,000
I'd like to really see that full report.

1639
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:27,000
I wonder if you've actually been able to see that full report,

1640
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:30,000
because I was down there at the weekend,

1641
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:33,000
and the edge of that site,

1642
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:36,000
but it's right up to some wetland,

1643
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:40,000
which clearly links into Silverdale Creek,

1644
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:44,000
which definitely has a lot of salmon spawning through,

1645
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:46,000
or salmon running through there.

1646
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:49,000
I witnessed that myself earlier this year,

1647
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:52,000
I've started earlier last year.

1648
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:57,000
So it's clearly a very environmentally-centered area,

1649
02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:02,000
and yeah, I'm really concerned about this project,

1650
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:04,000
a lack of transparency.

1651
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:07,000
I love the fact that they're cleaning up soil.

1652
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:09,000
This is a wrong location to do it, and no.

1653
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:10,000
Thank you.

1654
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:12,000
I'll have the proponent maybe when they come back up,

1655
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:15,000
speak to your questions about those reports.

1656
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:16,000
Thank you.

1657
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:19,000
That ends the in-person list for the second time.

1658
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:21,000
I'll go to our online participants.

1659
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:24,000
Ms. Cooper, do we have anybody online who has not spoken

1660
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:26,000
and has raised their hand?

1661
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:27,000
It's a proclamation.

1662
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:28,000
Okay.

1663
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:31,000
Mr. McCloud, we will have your name on the sheet,

1664
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:33,000
or in the screen in a moment,

1665
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:36,000
and you can unmute yourself for now.

1666
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:39,000
It looks like you already know Mr. McCloud.

1667
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:41,000
You can unmute, and the floor is yours,

1668
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:43,000
and please tell us where you're from.

1669
02:23:43,000 --> 02:23:46,000
Working and living, whatever you prefer.

1670
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,000
Hi, my name is Barack McCloud,

1671
02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:51,000
and I work with some of the earthworks

1672
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:53,000
as a facilities coordinator.

1673
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:55,000
I live in Chilawak.

1674
02:23:55,000 --> 02:24:00,000
I just want to speak today about our environmental record.

1675
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:03,000
I have a master of science degree in earth science,

1676
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:07,000
and I've been a professional and I'll just for almost 15 years.

1677
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:11,000
I personally sample our outgoing stockpiles of soil

1678
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:13,000
and review the lab reports by comparing them

1679
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:17,000
to the BC-Taminated sites regulation.

1680
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:19,000
As a qualified professional,

1681
02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:22,000
I sign off on all of the soil that we transport

1682
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:23,000
to permanent field sites,

1683
02:24:23,000 --> 02:24:26,000
be that federally or potentially permanent.

1684
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:29,000
I also repair all of the soil that leaves

1685
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:32,000
our facilities to the potential government,

1686
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:36,000
via their online soil relocation website.

1687
02:24:36,000 --> 02:24:38,000
In regards to soil washing,

1688
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:42,000
I can assure you that we are employing proven technologies

1689
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:45,000
for our chemically resistant line facility

1690
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:47,000
and our water treatment system.

1691
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:50,000
I want to assure Mayor and Council

1692
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:53,000
that we are committed to environmental protection,

1693
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:56,000
and that soil washing is a huge step in utilizing

1694
02:24:56,000 --> 02:24:59,000
what it's thought of as waste for it.

1695
02:24:59,000 --> 02:25:00,000
Thank you.

1696
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:01,000
Thank you.

1697
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:03,000
Anybody else online, Ms. Cooper?

1698
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:05,000
Thank you very much.

1699
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:07,000
For those online, I'll be coming one last time

1700
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:10,000
after we exhaust the current written speakers list

1701
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:12,000
or the in-person speakers list.

1702
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:17,000
For those who have not yet spoken at even one time,

1703
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:19,000
currently I have two first time speakers

1704
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:23,000
and a third person is a second time speaker

1705
02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:27,000
followed by Mr. Van Larr who I think wants to go last.

1706
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:30,000
But if you have not spoken at all,

1707
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,000
and you go and see Ms. Philopon in the lobby,

1708
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:35,000
I'll get you in after our first two speakers

1709
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,000
just to try and keep the convention

1710
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:39,000
of first speakers going.

1711
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:42,000
So our next speaker is Christina Baleca.

1712
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:49,000
I didn't plan to speak today,

1713
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:52,000
but it seems that we are,

1714
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:54,000
we are talking, I of course oppose

1715
02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:57,000
and many of us oppose that.

1716
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:00,000
We didn't plan as a,

1717
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,000
my people from Action for Canada.

1718
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:04,000
I can represent over 100 people.

1719
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:06,000
I didn't speak to everyone,

1720
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:10,000
but for the whole year already,

1721
02:26:10,000 --> 02:26:14,000
we were sometimes on that side and we were talking.

1722
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:17,000
And you know, I just couldn't believe,

1723
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:19,000
but people said, you know,

1724
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:20,000
it's not really worth it,

1725
02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:24,000
because the city will approve anyway.

1726
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:26,000
And as I see here,

1727
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:28,000
today that company brought some people,

1728
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:31,000
maybe seems even that they've wrote something

1729
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,000
what they supposed to say,

1730
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,000
but we are here living

1731
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:38,000
and we are only,

1732
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:40,000
you supposed to be for us,

1733
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:41,000
especially for us,

1734
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:44,000
not for the company who hire 14 people.

1735
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:46,000
I believe that those people,

1736
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:48,000
not losing their job they have.

1737
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:50,000
Don't worry,

1738
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:51,000
for them,

1739
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:53,000
for our citizens,

1740
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:55,000
our residents to get job,

1741
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:58,000
because there are so many opportunities

1742
02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:00,000
to build something else.

1743
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:04,000
Only we as a residents and companies and small businesses,

1744
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:07,000
we need a little bit support from city,

1745
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:08,000
from town,

1746
02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:11,000
and we like working,

1747
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:13,000
are really together.

1748
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:14,000
I,

1749
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:15,000
if we're going by number,

1750
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:17,000
how many people is opposing,

1751
02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:20,000
at least 100 people

1752
02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:22,000
from Action for Canada.

1753
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,000
Mission chapter is opposing that site.

1754
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:26,000
Thank you so much.

1755
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,000
I don't want to take more time.

1756
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:29,000
Thank you.

1757
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:30,000
I'll just ask,

1758
02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:32,000
if we've had a couple of comments this evening,

1759
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:33,000
and I just will remind people,

1760
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:34,000
you can have a seat,

1761
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:35,000
Ms. Belekka.

1762
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:36,000
This is going to be in general.

1763
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:38,000
That when you come up,

1764
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:41,000
please do not address other people in the room.

1765
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:45,000
Please do not comment on the motivations of other people in the room.

1766
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,000
We care about all the things that people are talking about today,

1767
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:50,000
including jobs and economic development.

1768
02:27:50,000 --> 02:27:52,000
It's also not in good form

1769
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,000
to question character of other people.

1770
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:56,000
Come up and let the merits of your debate

1771
02:27:56,000 --> 02:27:57,000
be what you share.

1772
02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:59,000
Please leave it at that.

1773
02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:01,000
This is a land use question.

1774
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:02,000
It's an important one,

1775
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:06,000
and it's not worth creating divisions in our community.

1776
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:08,000
And I think it's important for us to just try

1777
02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:11,000
to keep in the rails when it comes to that.

1778
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:12,000
I appreciate it.

1779
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:13,000
Next is,

1780
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:17,000
I'll come back.

1781
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:19,000
I'll come back, Mr. Scora.

1782
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:20,000
Thank you.

1783
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:24,000
And then our next speaker is Steve Janssen.

1784
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:31,000
Here in Councillor Peefe.

1785
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,000
My name is Stephen Janssen.

1786
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:35,000
I've she lived about 10 minutes from here.

1787
02:28:35,000 --> 02:28:36,000
I'm actually northeast,

1788
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:39,000
but I've worked for a lot of

1789
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:49,000
exhibition companies and solar remediation companies as well.

1790
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:53,000
Working with Summit for the last three and a half years now

1791
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:55,000
has been one of the best companies I've worked with.

1792
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:57,000
On top of working with them,

1793
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:00,000
being only 10 minutes from home,

1794
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:04,000
I'm one of those 14 people that will be working on this facility.

1795
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:08,000
I know people address the tracking issue.

1796
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:09,000
It's a big deal.

1797
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:11,000
It's low heat highway.

1798
02:29:11,000 --> 02:29:13,000
The tracking is already happening.

1799
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:15,000
The tracking, if they're not coming to us,

1800
02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:18,000
they're driving past us because it's low heat highway.

1801
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:21,000
That's the access, it's the main artery.

1802
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:24,000
The only access that would be gaining truck traffic

1803
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:27,000
would be all of our street itself.

1804
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:30,000
That would be the thing that would be gaining major traffic.

1805
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:33,000
I've heard there's concerns about

1806
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:36,000
infrastructure for water and everything else.

1807
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:39,000
Well, like any district,

1808
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:41,000
when there's growth,

1809
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:42,000
infrastructure has to grow.

1810
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:45,000
There will be growth happening at one point at

1811
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:47,000
whose cost, I'm not sure that's not my

1812
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:49,000
department to do with.

1813
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:53,000
For me, it's just one of those things that

1814
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:58,000
I save three to four-hour traffic driving,

1815
02:29:58,000 --> 02:30:00,000
working with Summit coming into.

1816
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:10,000
Mission. I live nearby. I travel through Mission. I go off in the woods and everything else. And the environmental stuff

1817
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:17,000
like we're top notch on it. Like we are always concerned we're always being monitored. And all our

1818
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:24,000
guys are professionals. And when there is a problem, we make sure it's taken care of as fast as we possibly can to make sure it's

1819
02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:29,000
ensured that it's not safely and properly. Thank you. Thank you.

1820
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:34,000
Ms. Fillupon, I don't know if you can hear out there, but I have my next speakers, somebody who's the second

1821
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:42,000
time. I just thought that would check. You have no more first timers. Thank you very much. So next is Brandon Dylan.

1822
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:49,000
I'll go to the computer. Sorry, Mr. Dylan. Just so everybody knows what's happening. I'm on my second round of

1823
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:54,000
in person. I'm going to go one last time to the computer folks. So if you are on the computer and you

1824
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:59,000
wish to speak, raise your hand now because after Mr. Dylan, I'll go there. And I'll finish up in

1825
02:30:59,000 --> 02:31:03,000
chambers and I'll be checking with Mr. Van Barde whether he wants to go now or wants to go

1826
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:07,000
at that round. So I'll check with you before I go to the computer. Mr. Dylan, thank you for your

1827
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:11,000
patience. Go ahead. Eric Council. I just want to apologize for taking out more of your

1828
02:31:11,000 --> 02:31:16,000
time. There's one thing that I also wanted to mention before I got off of there.

1829
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:23,000
One thing that it is that Steve also mentioned there is that it is a main access is low

1830
02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:29,000
heat highway. If there's, you're going to take the traffic away from there. You no matter what

1831
02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:34,000
living in mission myself for all these years, you are only going to go up either

1832
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:40,000
cedar or you're going to go up by where in hats like there, no matter what way you go all

1833
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:45,000
the traffic routes are always going to be trucking through school districts and everything

1834
02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:51,000
like that. We're going to keep all the traffic going through trucking routes and everything

1835
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:56,000
going into an industrial zone, which is made for those kind of things. But if taking it away

1836
02:31:56,000 --> 02:32:00,000
from that and going to the back of mission, no matter what trucks are going to be going through

1837
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:05,000
school zones, every which way you go. Thank you for that comment and just will ask staff

1838
02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:11,000
to clarify because I'm not sure if this is understood. Currently traffic is traveling on

1839
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:17,000
rent and gear, which are the city's roads to the low heat highway and this would largely

1840
02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:26,000
direct them to all of us. That correct? For this site, yes, this traffic is intended to

1841
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:31,000
utilize all of our access low heat highway. So I guess the reason I asked that is I think

1842
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:36,000
it's important for the community to know the city doesn't have domain and I think our last two

1843
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:40,000
speakers have talked about this regarding the low heat highway. The trucks on the low heat highway

1844
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:46,000
are the provincial responsibility for enforcing commercial vehicles safety and speed and all

1845
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:51,000
the rest of it. Okay, thank you. Mr. Van Lard, did you want to go now or did you want to go

1846
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:56,000
after we've had oat looks that we have another person, another first time or if go ahead and

1847
02:32:56,000 --> 02:33:15,000
bring. Okay, Mr. Merris come up. Welcome. Yeah, so I am against this proposal and I am

1848
02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:24,000
pro business, pro employee for sure, but this is the wrong location. This is going to end

1849
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:32,000
up being in our city center and for that reason, we cannot allow this to happen. Thank you.

1850
02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:39,000
Thank you. I think that exhaust our speakers list in person. I'm assuming Mr. Van Lard, you want to go after we've had

1851
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:45,000
others. Okay, so this is the last call for our online participants. If you haven't spoken before,

1852
02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:50,000
Ms Cooper will look to you first and then anybody who's speaking for a second time. It's important if you're

1853
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:57,000
speaking for a second time because we are now with less than an hour left in the meeting not to be speaking

1854
02:33:57,000 --> 02:34:02,000
about things that have already been covered, even if they've been covered by others. So please only speak if you're

1855
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:09,000
bringing in new information. Ms Cooper, who do we have next? You have Justin Bond. Mr. Bond.

1856
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:19,000
It's wait now. I'll let you know when I can see your name on my screen. Thanks for having me back, guys.

1857
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:28,000
Okay. Do some things I do have some questions for Mr. Van Lard and thereafter. I'll try to keep those closer towards the end.

1858
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:41,000
So a couple of comments that I have about this whole conversation or hearing tonight to the floor is the 24 hour operation sounded like to me like a soft yes.

1859
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:45,000
It's not very defined whether it's yes or no. It sounds like a soft yes.

1860
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:54,000
Okay, I'll pause you and get some answers to that. My understanding with asked this question earlier is the land use designation and the business licensing are two different

1861
02:34:55,000 --> 02:35:04,000
So the hours of operation currently are what our business hours of operation would be. Is that right, Mr. Mr. Public?

1862
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:10,000
Yeah, the proposal is telling us that they're going to operate on site the equipment 24 hours a day.

1863
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:16,000
We don't typically limit hours of operation for businesses. Okay.

1864
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:24,000
So the truck the trucks in a note sounds like it's a different question than the operation on the site.

1865
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:44,000
And I made a list and I'm just going to go down it. So comments that I do have is based on what the experience I first may have and all the land and buildings and equipment and et cetera that are in my civic addresses, which are near their current operation is that I will tell you that the young ladies that stood up that are from red and raven area.

1866
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:55,000
I'll admit to the north of the proposed facility. All of their exterior windows and barbecues, et cetera and their Sundax will be covered in dust. That's a for sure not a maybe.

1867
02:35:55,000 --> 02:36:08,000
I also wanted to comment that we had major employment employee retention issues because of the current operations with people couldn't keep their vehicles clean.

1868
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:19,000
We're just saying, hey, I can go get a job somewhere else and I don't have to deal with this stuff and that's that's 100% true. That's why we bought a lot of vehicles on.

1869
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:24,000
Just to address another comment. All are you still in the room?

1870
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:29,000
I am. I'm listening that I'm talking to somebody at the same time. I can have to hear you, Mr. Bond.

1871
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:37,000
I just wanted to check with you about Mr.

1872
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:40,000
I'll just wait until I have your attention.

1873
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:47,000
Okay, perfect. So one comment you made is about the raceway and how it operates sometimes late at night, et cetera.

1874
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:54,000
I just want to make sure that the room understands that the raceway has been in operation since August 25th, 1965.

1875
02:36:54,000 --> 02:37:05,000
And we're talking March the second 2026. A lot has changed in all those years. So I don't think that putting this all in the blenders is the actual proper approach.

1876
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:13,000
The next thing I'd like to bring up is that I think it's kind of well put that we all understand that somebody is a great company.

1877
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:17,000
And I think that we can all hang or had on that location as the fundamental issue here.

1878
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:22,000
This isn't about the company. It's about what we want to do on this piece of land.

1879
02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:28,000
And I must make sure that everybody understands that this piece of land is treating contaminated soil. We all know that.

1880
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:35,000
And it is not protected. There is no diet to protect it from the river. So to me, we can have all these smarty pants.

1881
02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:47,000
But common sense tells me that we're going to eventually have one of these hundred year or four hundred year or whatever floods. And that soil's going to end up in the river or in the creek.

1882
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:54,000
And I can say this. We have a slogan in my business, which is ask performance predicts future performance.

1883
02:37:54,000 --> 02:38:00,000
And the past performance of the operating company towards all of its neighbors has been of such that we have proof.

1884
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:15,000
So I don't know how we can argue that we're changed. I don't personally believe that, but then I would say well maybe we should parking lot this whole thing and let them operate for six months or a year before we have this hearing.

1885
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:22,000
And say they put in a truck wash at their current facility. They did all these things they said they were going to do.

1886
02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:32,000
Because I guess for me and my life is if you're not really good at sleeping before, we're not going to pull it well during your hand. If we don't reward bad performance in my life.

1887
02:38:32,000 --> 02:38:39,000
And that's what we're doing here. We're saying you weren't a good neighbor, but we'll let you be another neighbor to somebody else.

1888
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:46,000
Okay. And one other point that I'd like to bring up, but I don't have any facts on it, but I would like somebody to check it up.

1889
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:57,000
Is a couple of years ago, some of the earth works on some land adjacent to the property that Bob Cowan is in, which is 31413 Gel Avenue.

1890
02:38:57,000 --> 02:39:04,000
I'd Jason to that property, there's some land at some of the owns, and they were actually holding dirt in there and stock filing it illegally.

1891
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:08,000
And I called Mike Euney and all of a sudden it stopped in all the dirt went away.

1892
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:15,000
So if it wasn't illegal, why did they stop and why did they take the dirt away, but then we're up here praising our integrity.

1893
02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:21,000
That's has to be somewhere on record that it happens. And I'd like that to be checked.

1894
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:29,000
Well, we'll put that in the record, Mr. Vaughn. This is not an application on that particular property this evening, but we'll register that comment.

1895
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:36,000
No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not about property. It's about the past performance for the future performance.

1896
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:43,000
Okay. The other question that I would like to have answered is, or one thing I can say to you is, we're all talking about jobs.

1897
02:39:43,000 --> 02:39:50,000
If you guys are unaware, you can literally go outside and throw a rock and hit your next job. There's jobs everywhere.

1898
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:56,000
There's help. Help one of the signs everywhere. The world has a freaking epidemic. It's looking for employees.

1899
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:58,000
Okay.

1900
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:08,000
The next thing I'd like to say is, how many sites, and I'd like Mr. Van Lard to call me after this, how many sites farther like this in our lower mainland of British Columbia that treats well?

1901
02:40:08,000 --> 02:40:09,000
I would just like to know.

1902
02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:16,000
So the second one is, Mr. Vaughn, I just want to clarify that while Mr. Van Lard may wish to speak to that,

1903
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:21,000
it's not okay for one person in a public hearing to address another person in a public hearing.

1904
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:28,000
And I said earlier, so I used to actually be in our preamble. Your comments are meant to be directed to council.

1905
02:40:28,000 --> 02:40:32,000
He may wish to answer some of your questions or some of the thought she raised here.

1906
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:39,000
But you, unfortunately, asking directly of another person in the room, isn't okay.

1907
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:40,000
There's no problem.

1908
02:40:40,000 --> 02:40:52,000
How many cubic meters of mission-based soil plan to come or currently, how many cubic meters of soil that is mission-based soil comes into the treatment plant versus a percentage from out of town?

1909
02:40:52,000 --> 02:41:02,000
Because I'm led to believe that percentage of local domestic soil being treated in this soil facility is actually quite low.

1910
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:07,000
Mr. Vaughn, I'm not sure that anybody in the room has that that's proprietary information.

1911
02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:10,000
It would be like me asking you.

1912
02:41:10,000 --> 02:41:17,000
And then I would like to also remind you all is that we've had a lot of people stand up here tonight in support of it that worked there.

1913
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:28,000
But let's not discount the fact in one shift at JBS Steve Secor walked around and got 80 signatures out of 140 in one shift.

1914
02:41:29,000 --> 02:41:30,000
Okay.

1915
02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:34,000
And Paul, I do, I don't know if this is the appropriate place to ask.

1916
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:40,000
But what is the job of the mayor in such city council meeting? Are you the chair of the meeting?

1917
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:41,000
Yes.

1918
02:41:41,000 --> 02:41:43,000
This meeting tonight.

1919
02:41:43,000 --> 02:41:44,000
Yes.

1920
02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:45,000
Okay, because I'll be honest with you.

1921
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:47,000
I don't feel that you're very unbiased in this meeting.

1922
02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:51,000
I feel like you're very salesman kind of orientation in this meeting.

1923
02:41:51,000 --> 02:41:54,000
I don't feel like you're Switzerland in this meeting.

1924
02:41:54,000 --> 02:41:56,000
I think you're very proud of the project.

1925
02:41:56,000 --> 02:42:00,000
And I think that if somebody makes a comment that is negative, you're very aggressive.

1926
02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:05,000
But if somebody makes a comment that's positive, you're very, oh, they're with your palm palms and cheering it on.

1927
02:42:05,000 --> 02:42:08,000
And I don't think that's fair of a position of a chair.

1928
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:13,000
I don't think that you acted in a very neutral environment in my opinion.

1929
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:15,000
Thank you for your feedback.

1930
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:23,000
The job of council members during the public hearing is to maintain an ability to be swayed by the people.

1931
02:42:23,000 --> 02:42:26,000
In the room.

1932
02:42:26,000 --> 02:42:33,000
And I assure you I've come into this conversation this evening with that exact state of mind.

1933
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:34,000
Thank you.

1934
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:35,000
Thank you.

1935
02:42:35,000 --> 02:42:36,000
Well, okay, so I'm good.

1936
02:42:36,000 --> 02:42:37,000
Thanks for having me.

1937
02:42:37,000 --> 02:42:38,000
Thank you.

1938
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:40,000
Anybody else, Ms. Cooper?

1939
02:42:40,000 --> 02:42:41,000
Online?

1940
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:44,000
Okay, so that was our final call for online.

1941
02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:47,000
This is our final call for in person.

1942
02:42:47,000 --> 02:42:50,000
Is there anybody else on the list?

1943
02:42:50,000 --> 02:42:51,000
Okay, go ahead.

1944
02:42:51,000 --> 02:42:55,000
Go ahead, come on up now.

1945
02:42:55,000 --> 02:43:00,000
So just to the record, your name again is.

1946
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:03,000
My name is Annessa, and I'm a resident of mission.

1947
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:05,000
Annessa Walner, is that correct?

1948
02:43:05,000 --> 02:43:06,000
Correct.

1949
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:07,000
Thank you.

1950
02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:12,000
So I'm back here for a second time primarily because I overheard some stuff.

1951
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:17,000
But their point was that regular citizens shouldn't weigh in on things when they're not in the industry.

1952
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:19,000
And so that is why I'm up again.

1953
02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:22,000
I don't have my prepared speech.

1954
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:23,000
I am not from the industry.

1955
02:43:23,000 --> 02:43:28,000
So I had to actively look up all what was it like a hundred and nine pages of all of this.

1956
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:29,000
And then I had to Google words.

1957
02:43:29,000 --> 02:43:30,000
I didn't know.

1958
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:37,000
And I had to continue to learn so that I could come up here and feel confident when I say that I'm against this for these reasons.

1959
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:38,000
I don't.

1960
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:42,000
I have really apologized to anyone who deeply has a passion for reading policy.

1961
02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:43,000
I think that's great.

1962
02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:44,000
We need people like that.

1963
02:43:44,000 --> 02:43:45,000
It was very boring.

1964
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:47,000
And it was very hard to get through.

1965
02:43:47,000 --> 02:43:49,000
But I did it because I care about where I live.

1966
02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:52,000
This would not only just affect me, but the people around me.

1967
02:43:52,000 --> 02:43:57,000
So yes, some of us have to prepare speeches and know it's not on chat to be teal the time.

1968
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:04,000
But it's important to me to be a citizen who's not in the industry and be able to say, hey, this is not a good idea for me.

1969
02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:06,000
And it's probably not a good idea for you.

1970
02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:14,000
So if something affects the environment and the people that live here and it affects the future growth potential, I will always say, no.

1971
02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:15,000
Thank you.

1972
02:44:15,000 --> 02:44:16,000
Thank you.

1973
02:44:17,000 --> 02:44:24,000
The last speaker I have for the evening is other than when counselors may have questions for speakers is Mr Van Larr.

1974
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:30,000
So Mr Van Larr, I don't see anybody else indicating that they would like to speak.

1975
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:36,000
So after you all open it to counselors for questions and then we'll close the public hearing.

1976
02:44:36,000 --> 02:44:37,000
All right.

1977
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:38,000
Thank you.

1978
02:44:38,000 --> 02:44:41,000
And thanks everyone for the feedback.

1979
02:44:42,000 --> 02:44:46,000
We have indicated that we would like to do an open house a year after operation.

1980
02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:49,000
So anyone would be often come to that and ask us questions about how it operates.

1981
02:44:49,000 --> 02:44:52,000
I know it is a complex industry.

1982
02:44:52,000 --> 02:44:56,000
So if you don't know it, you can always come and we plan to give to our staff everyone.

1983
02:44:56,000 --> 02:45:00,000
I did want to address a few of the comments and.

1984
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,960
And here's a comment about how close it is to the river and whether there's a hundred-year flood. It would flood the land. We hired a geoscientist or a hydrologist, sterling geoscience. The report was submitted to council, so you do have it. I think someone mentioned they don't have it. We only had to raise the grade to 10.5 for a 1 in 500-year flood. We're raising it to 12. So we're raising an extra meter and a half just to be safe.

1985
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:41,000
Because we know that essentially rules out any potential flooding in this site. The site is on the other side of the C.P. rail tracks, C.P. rail also does pretty good on two diligence on their flooding.

1986
02:45:41,000 --> 02:45:47,000
And then it's also, again, it's 10 times further away from the river than our existing contaminated soil facility.

1987
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:59,000
So that's common on that. The comment about the dust, we have massive dust control, and we're overseeing by the Ministry of Environment. The site that we're in and also with the trucking.

1988
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:06,000
There's four other businesses that operate in that heavy industrial site. We're not the only company that operates in that heavy industrial site.

1989
02:46:06,000 --> 02:46:14,000
We do get all the blame, which is, you know, we generally don't point fingers at anyone, but we are not the only ones that operate on that site.

1990
02:46:14,000 --> 02:46:22,000
And the majority of the dust is not coming from us. So I'm not going to, I don't want to point fingers at other people, but there's other businesses operating there.

1991
02:46:22,000 --> 02:46:32,000
It's a massive heavy industrial site that brings massive economic gain to mission and lots of jobs, and we're just on one fifth of the property.

1992
02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:37,000
So that's the point on that one.

1993
02:46:37,000 --> 02:46:41,000
CD60 zoning, someone brought up that.

1994
02:46:41,000 --> 02:46:49,000
Yeah, we would, we would like to eventually put light industrial buildings on this second section. That's just not part of the application because it would make it to complex.

1995
02:46:49,000 --> 02:46:58,000
We'd probably move our office there eventually. We have our head office in mission. We're growing quite fast and we anticipate a lot of job growth in mission in the future.

1996
02:46:58,000 --> 02:47:03,000
This soil washing facility does complete 360 recycling.

1997
02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:09,000
The water in there goes into the soil cleans the soil by taking up contaminants and then it runs through a water treatment system.

1998
02:47:09,000 --> 02:47:15,000
And that water treatment system takes the contaminants out of the water and the water is recirculated back into the soil.

1999
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:24,000
So the water itself gets cleaned almost immediately and then it's reuse. It's very economically friendly. It lowers carbon reduction.

2000
02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:38,000
It actually removes the need for more cores in BC and in mission. There's a lot of cores in mission and this essentially lets you take gravel that would normally be landfill, then take a valuable landfill space and reuse it as a commodity.

2001
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:44,000
So to me that is a big benefit to mission and to British Columbia.

2002
02:47:44,000 --> 02:47:49,000
Sorry, I've got a lot of scribble notes here.

2003
02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:58,000
Again, yeah, I just want to emphasize that this facility is going to reduce truck traffic on Gill Avenue, which when you start to hear complaints about it, this benefits that.

2004
02:47:58,000 --> 02:48:07,000
This site is such a good site. If people talk about going up up to northern mission by the queries, if we want to bring truck traffic up there, we got to go by multiple residential sites,

2005
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:14,000
schools, zones, a bunch of other facilities. Whereas here it's 150 meters from the highway, like how much closer can we get to the highway.

2006
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:18,000
It's a straight line. There's two access points on that road.

2007
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:25,000
And we've talked about both of them and they're both okay with this. So I don't know how much like how much closer can we get to the highway until people are satisfied.

2008
02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:33,000
In fact, we are actually thinking that eventually we would try to add an access on to low heat highway directly.

2009
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:42,000
We have looked into that. The Ministry of Transportation was not super satisfied, but that is something that we look forward to in the future.

2010
02:48:42,000 --> 02:48:47,000
And I can't remember the other questions from GBS.

2011
02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:53,000
I mean, a petition, I can get my entire company to write a petition if you guys want that doesn't really mean much.

2012
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:59,000
There is some history with JB performance. They've run to some land from us and there are some things there.

2013
02:48:59,000 --> 02:49:03,000
I think that have added some of the comments tonight.

2014
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:13,000
But overall, I would like to say, this site is the perfect spot for this. It's right beside a heavy industrial site, similar activities happening by us.

2015
02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:21,000
And in general, it's just better than it's on the site. We have better access for the way it's a number of higher elevation and more advanced technology.

2016
02:49:21,000 --> 02:49:24,000
So I definitely urge you to approve the rezoning.

2017
02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:29,000
And once the rezoning is done, the next step is the Ministry of Environment Prevent.

2018
02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:34,000
So the Ministry of Environment Prevent requires us to do public consultation. We're going to do this entire process again.

2019
02:49:34,000 --> 02:49:40,000
And if the Ministry of Environment isn't satisfied with the public feedback, then they won't approve the facility.

2020
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:42,000
So this is just the rezoning step.

2021
02:49:42,000 --> 02:49:50,000
Thank you. I have councillors who had questions and I presume they're likely for you, Mr. Bernard. So please don't sit quite yet.

2022
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:54,000
And I'm sorry if I haven't got the order quite right, but I have.

2023
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:57,000
Councilor Gil, Councilor Hamilton, did you have a question?

2024
02:49:57,000 --> 02:50:01,000
Okay, and then Councilor Lyas and I've got Councilor Plexus and Davies.

2025
02:50:01,000 --> 02:50:03,000
Councilor Gil, go ahead.

2026
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:09,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn. And first and most importantly, I just want to thank every member of community whether you spoke virtually.

2027
02:50:09,000 --> 02:50:15,000
Or in a chance to speak or even had a chance to attend and many folks do work early hours.

2028
02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:18,000
So thank you for not falling asleep on us here.

2029
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:30,000
I guess my first question is there was a conversation regarding that once the water in the plant is, I guess, stored inside the wash.

2030
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:34,000
What's the contingency plan? Can you talk about that if something does fail?

2031
02:50:34,000 --> 02:50:38,000
I'm having some difficulty a couple of times in the hearing.

2032
02:50:38,000 --> 02:50:42,000
What was the very last part that you said I didn't hear it?

2033
02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:44,000
Did you just talk about the contingency plan?

2034
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:46,000
If the machine fails.

2035
02:50:46,000 --> 02:50:52,000
Sorry, the Ministry of Environment has very rigid requirements for this type of facility because they definitely do not want any contamination.

2036
02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:54,000
Keeping into the environment.

2037
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:58,000
So essentially the entire site becomes a bathtub. There's a non permeable liner.

2038
02:50:58,000 --> 02:51:04,000
And then there's a secondary concrete liner. And that ensures that no contaminants can leak out into the environment.

2039
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:09,000
Along all the edges there's going to be catch basins. They capture any water that would spill out for any reason.

2040
02:51:09,000 --> 02:51:14,000
And those catch basins go to a direct dump and that some gets pumped back into the water treatment system.

2041
02:51:14,000 --> 02:51:20,000
So even if there was some sort of crack or something in the pipe, that water would be contained still.

2042
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:26,000
There's a lot of water storage on sites. And then the secondary thing is that we install well points around the site.

2043
02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:30,000
And those wells, we test the water annually. I think we might test it more than only.

2044
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:37,000
But we tested to make sure that if there was some sort of leak, you would catch it in that and then you could immediately do remediation.

2045
02:51:37,000 --> 02:51:44,000
Perfect. And I know the traffic impact assessment and the report it mentions that it has been completed yet.

2046
02:51:44,000 --> 02:51:51,000
Can you just talk about the scope? Does that just cover your property or does that cover future growth for the neighboring properties as well?

2047
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:56,000
I believe it does. We do have our traffic consultants. Where did you go?

2048
02:51:56,000 --> 02:52:01,000
Anyways, Aaron Chan from CTS has done the traffic assessment.

2049
02:52:01,000 --> 02:52:08,000
They have decades of traffic experience and they're doing this in accordance with best practices that are done for traffic studies.

2050
02:52:08,000 --> 02:52:13,000
So let's check with staff if that's okay. If you can't so Mr. Pablo, can you comment on that?

2051
02:52:13,000 --> 02:52:18,000
What's the scope of the TIA? Or is that a question that we should potentially hold.

2052
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:21,000
I have later on Ms. Taff. Sorry.

2053
02:52:21,000 --> 02:52:23,000
I'd be deferred engineering.

2054
02:52:23,000 --> 02:52:25,000
Hey, Ms. Taff.

2055
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:35,000
I don't have the details of the whole scope. The TIA is still under development and it has to meet the requirements of the Ministry and city staff before it's empty.

2056
02:52:35,000 --> 02:52:42,000
So one thing I'll point out to counselors is if we have unanswered questions this evening, we can ask for third reading report.

2057
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:47,000
That may be one of them, but we'll sort of mentally note that as we go along back to you, Councillor.

2058
02:52:47,000 --> 02:52:52,000
Sorry. I believe the TIA has been finalized and it's just being reviewed by the city, actually.

2059
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:53,000
Yes.

2060
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:54,000
I'm put sure.

2061
02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:55,000
That's not.

2062
02:52:55,000 --> 02:52:57,000
Okay. Well, we'll come back to that.

2063
02:52:58,000 --> 02:53:01,000
Sorry.

2064
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:05,000
According to the update from the Manager of Transportation, it's not yet finalized.

2065
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:06,000
Okay.

2066
02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:09,000
So I think that may be a question we need to have answered.

2067
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:10,000
Go ahead to Councilor Go.

2068
02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:11,000
Thank you.

2069
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:16,000
I know there was a concerns or raised about just once the trucks do come off of.

2070
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:19,000
Lloyd High, we're on to all of our street.

2071
02:53:19,000 --> 02:53:25,000
What's the plan if the trucks need to be stationed or if there is a backup?

2072
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:30,000
Yeah. We, every truck that comes to our site is going to receive a truck route plan.

2073
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:33,000
And that truck route plan is going to show them it's happy we're to go.

2074
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:38,000
On the planet says absolutely no stopping in front of our C&P that's something that there's some PAS this morning.

2075
02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:40,000
We said for sure we can do that.

2076
02:53:40,000 --> 02:53:45,000
And then trucks actually go quite a bit into our site over 150 meters into our site where the gate is.

2077
02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:46,000
That gate is.

2078
02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:53,000
I would say there'd be never a reason why that gate would be closed before truck to get there because we talked to the truck in companies before they come to our site.

2079
02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:58,000
And like the trucking companies. So we always have people on site if there's a truck coming.

2080
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:05,000
And then we have a 700 meter ring road that can that can basically handle as much traffic as we need even if we'd a shutdown for some reason.

2081
02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:11,000
So I don't believe there'd be any any impact for having trucks backed up anywhere near there are some people's facility.

2082
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:17,000
Yes, my next question is you had mentioned you had had to chance to speak with RCMP.

2083
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:21,000
I know early on RCMP did write a letter of concern.

2084
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:30,000
And I guess this could be even a question to staff is I know when I read the report there was really no letter added.

2085
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:37,000
I know there was comments provided by our RCMP, but can someone verify what position of the RCMP detachment is.

2086
02:54:37,000 --> 02:54:41,000
It's probably one for our staff as the original letter.

2087
02:54:41,000 --> 02:54:45,000
Is there an update on that mystery unit?

2088
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:47,000
Or Mr. Publ.

2089
02:54:47,000 --> 02:54:49,000
Yeah, we'd refer to Mr. Publ.

2090
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:59,000
The update on that is that they have we understand the applicant has had conversation with the RCMP and they are satisfied with the with the arrangements that have been met.

2091
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:07,000
I think with Councillor Gill is saying correct me from wrong Councillor Gill is do we have independent verification from the RCMP.

2092
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:13,000
Yeah, we have emails confirming that those negotiations on the RCMP satisfaction.

2093
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:14,000
Okay, thank you.

2094
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:15,000
Awesome.

2095
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:17,000
That's it for my questions. Thank you.

2096
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:18,000
Thanks.

2097
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:21,000
Thank you, Mayor Warren.

2098
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:24,000
Well, I came with an open mind tonight and I certainly learned a lot.

2099
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:26,000
I do a couple of questions though.

2100
02:55:26,000 --> 02:55:32,000
I was mentioned I believe I Mr. Bond that the land is not protected from the river with a dike.

2101
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:35,000
But I believe you said that you've raised it more than you needed to do.

2102
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:38,000
We've raised a higher than any dikes around it would even be.

2103
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:44,000
So yeah, we're raising it to over 12 meter salvation, which is the existing land was to eat meter salvation.

2104
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:52,000
I'm still confused on the 24 hour operation because if you could just dummy that down for me please.

2105
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:56,000
So essentially trucks will come in from standard operating hours like 8 to 5.

2106
02:55:56,000 --> 02:56:02,000
And then the machinery itself is designed to run 25 hours a day because it can't the machines.

2107
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:06,000
Our slower washing the soul then we can receive the soil.

2108
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:09,000
So the machines run essentially 24 hours a day.

2109
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:14,000
They're quite quiet. We've done a noise study and basically within 20 meters of the machine.

2110
02:56:14,000 --> 02:56:17,000
Your noise is about the same loud as low heat highway.

2111
02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:19,000
And if you're on low heat highway, you wouldn't even hear the machines.

2112
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:23,000
And if you're across low heat highway at this rent facilities, you definitely won't hear the machines.

2113
02:56:23,000 --> 02:56:25,000
There's just one more question if I may.

2114
02:56:25,000 --> 02:56:28,000
So the traffic will there still be truck traffic going down.

2115
02:56:28,000 --> 02:56:32,000
You'll have a new will be but it'll be reduced.

2116
02:56:32,000 --> 02:56:38,000
Because a lot of like any truck that comes to this facility will be a truck that was diverted from the other facility.

2117
02:56:38,000 --> 02:56:42,000
Thank you. Councilor Elias.

2118
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:46,000
Yes, thank you very much. So I've got lots of comments which will save to the very end rate.

2119
02:56:46,000 --> 02:56:48,000
And that's just a question.

2120
02:56:48,000 --> 02:56:51,000
And we're going to after I have all my counselors as questions.

2121
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:53,000
We're going to have to extend the meeting.

2122
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:55,000
So counselors are just questioning right now.

2123
02:56:55,000 --> 02:56:57,000
We have another public hearing.

2124
02:56:57,000 --> 02:56:58,000
We've got other members.

2125
02:56:58,000 --> 02:57:00,000
Other evidence on our agenda this evening.

2126
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:02,000
And we won't typically get to this until bylaws.

2127
02:57:02,000 --> 02:57:05,000
So yes, there's going to be some periods of other stuff.

2128
02:57:05,000 --> 02:57:07,000
For now it's going to be a long night.

2129
02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:08,000
Yeah.

2130
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:13,000
So my questions are has DFO been notified for the Silverdale Creek and the species removal.

2131
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:16,000
And as that all those approvals been put into place.

2132
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:23,000
Or can you repeat as DFO giving you the proper approval approvals to be so close to the Silverdale Creek.

2133
02:57:23,000 --> 02:57:29,000
And then you had a gentleman here say that he was going to be hand picking the species removal and removing that.

2134
02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:34,000
And for my understanding, DFO needs to have all that has to be approved by DFO.

2135
02:57:34,000 --> 02:57:39,000
So have they been brought into this and giving you the approvals for everything?

2136
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:44,000
Well, actually, sorry, nothing of what we're doing is affected by DFO.

2137
02:57:44,000 --> 02:57:49,000
It's affected by the Ministry of Water Lands Natural Resources.

2138
02:57:49,000 --> 02:57:50,000
Yeah.

2139
02:57:50,000 --> 02:57:54,000
So they have a repairing assessment team that analyze the site for us.

2140
02:57:54,000 --> 02:57:59,000
For my understanding though, because Silverdale Creek is a fish bearing Creek.

2141
02:57:59,000 --> 02:58:03,000
DFO should be part of the conversation.

2142
02:58:03,000 --> 02:58:07,000
I'll check with Mr. Unie, but I don't believe that's accurate.

2143
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:11,000
I believe it's until you reach the foreshore of the Fraser River.

2144
02:58:11,000 --> 02:58:13,000
That was my, well, that's my next.

2145
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:14,000
That's my next question.

2146
02:58:14,000 --> 02:58:16,000
Can you speak to the jurisdiction?

2147
02:58:16,000 --> 02:58:21,000
My understanding is that both agencies would have jurisdiction depending on the activity.

2148
02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:30,000
The fisheries and oceans would only get involved with this actual proposal that has the potential or the reality of doing a harmful,

2149
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:35,000
what they call a harmful alteration disruption and destruction of habitat ahead that is known.

2150
02:58:35,000 --> 02:58:39,000
So if there's no had, there's no need to involve DFO.

2151
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:47,000
As Mr. Van Lard says, the Ministry of Environment gets involved when they're doing the compensation work in riparian areas.

2152
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:54,000
If they're clearing vegetation and replanting, that's when there's a, there's some authorization required by the Ministry or by the provincial government.

2153
02:58:54,000 --> 02:58:59,000
And Mr. Moes was the one that spoke about the invade move of the invasive plants, Mr. Unie.

2154
02:58:59,000 --> 02:59:02,000
That would typically be what?

2155
02:59:02,000 --> 02:59:05,000
Would that require approval of their invasive species?

2156
02:59:05,000 --> 02:59:08,000
Yeah, it would be all part of the riparian restoration.

2157
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:11,000
If they're within a certain distance of Silverdale Creek, which they are in this case.

2158
02:59:11,000 --> 02:59:18,000
And that's by design because the, that section of Silverdale Creek from the Fraser up to the highway.

2159
02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:21,000
And lacks natural vegetation.

2160
02:59:21,000 --> 02:59:27,000
There's, there's some trees in one up, but there's a heck of a lot of blackberries and, and other invasive plants that are understores.

2161
02:59:27,000 --> 02:59:31,000
So that's being removed and, and replanted with native species.

2162
02:59:31,000 --> 02:59:33,000
That's the real.

2163
02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:38,000
So DFO has not been brought in to give any of the provost and same with for the Fraser River.

2164
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:46,000
It's a, it's a very high, um, surgeon, um, spawning area right there on the river.

2165
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:57,000
So I, I've spoken to you about this before as well as in regards to the concerns about any type of contaminated soil or sea fish happening on the Fraser River.

2166
02:59:57,000 --> 03:00:00,000
Have you, what have you done to mitigate this?

2167
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,360
As my comment is, like our site is not adjacent to the phrase river or silver, they'll creak and we don't anticipate any seepage out of our water runoff or anything like that. No, like there will be, we will be applying for a discharge permit for the Ministry of Environment and a discharge permit would allow us to discharge clean water into the environment, but that water would have to be clean, we'd have to test it beforehand, and those records would have to give into the Ministry of Environment. And I think I'm pretty sure the Ministry of Environment will do a study on silver real in the phrase or to see if it affects it before they give us that approval.

2168
03:00:29,360 --> 03:00:36,360
The Ministry puts all of those in place. Exactly. The Ministry, like, they're reviewing every little aspect of this facility.

2169
03:00:36,360 --> 03:00:42,360
All right. Have you explored other sites, can they sort this versus this, this one site?

2170
03:00:42,360 --> 03:00:52,360
We have, yeah. And this site makes the most sense, we have four other contaminated facilities in BC, so using our experience, we think this site is the best site.

2171
03:00:52,360 --> 03:00:58,360
There's minimal truck traffic, you're going from low heat highway and you're going 150 meters into the site.

2172
03:00:58,360 --> 03:01:01,360
It's like the least disturbance you can possibly do in mission.

2173
03:01:01,360 --> 03:01:06,360
I just want to have a clear, I have a clarification question for something that you said earlier.

2174
03:01:06,360 --> 03:01:17,360
So earlier you had made a comment in regards to that tonight's public hearing is only on the OCP change and that you're still operating as a soil washing place.

2175
03:01:17,360 --> 03:01:21,360
And so if the OCP does not get approved, then what?

2176
03:01:21,360 --> 03:01:25,360
All right. If this OCP and third, the rezoning does not occur?

2177
03:01:25,360 --> 03:01:32,360
Yeah. Then what for you? I mean, that's our plan. That's what we do. We do contaminate, so.

2178
03:01:32,360 --> 03:01:41,360
I'm not sure just to the question. So I just wanted clarification from something that he said earlier in regards to already operating, a cleaning soil facility.

2179
03:01:41,360 --> 03:01:46,360
And so if this doesn't go through what happens for the property, what do you, what do your plans?

2180
03:01:46,360 --> 03:01:54,360
I think the other, the operation is on land that's already zoned for there's another portion of property down there where the operation is on land.

2181
03:01:54,360 --> 03:01:56,360
The operation is already correctly zoned.

2182
03:01:56,360 --> 03:01:58,360
Am I correct in that? Is that my question?

2183
03:01:58,360 --> 03:02:02,360
This, this rezoning, mimics the rezoning right across the train tracks.

2184
03:02:02,360 --> 03:02:05,360
Disney, that you can't expand your services basically.

2185
03:02:05,360 --> 03:02:06,360
Exactly.

2186
03:02:06,360 --> 03:02:15,360
Okay. So Mr. Bond asked a question that brought curiosity to me in regards to the soil, on average, where is the soil coming from?

2187
03:02:15,360 --> 03:02:19,360
You have significant projects coming from mission itself, for sure.

2188
03:02:19,360 --> 03:02:24,360
I, I don't know, I, like, I can just give you a number, but I don't know if it's true, so we don't, we don't look at it that way.

2189
03:02:24,360 --> 03:02:26,360
It was just a curiosity question, so.

2190
03:02:26,360 --> 03:02:29,360
But there are, there are, there are significant contaminating sites in mission.

2191
03:02:29,360 --> 03:02:32,360
Most of the non-developed land left in mission is going to have problems.

2192
03:02:32,360 --> 03:02:34,360
And we're going to be there to help them.

2193
03:02:34,360 --> 03:02:35,360
Thank you.

2194
03:02:35,360 --> 03:02:36,360
Thank you.

2195
03:02:36,360 --> 03:02:45,360
Before we go to Councillor Plexus, I'll ask for a motion to extend beyond 930 until the completion of business moved by Councillor Plexus and seconded by Councillor Gill.

2196
03:02:45,360 --> 03:02:47,360
Any comments or questions?

2197
03:02:47,360 --> 03:02:48,360
All those in favour?

2198
03:02:48,360 --> 03:02:49,360
Opposed?

2199
03:02:49,360 --> 03:02:50,360
I'll carry unanimously.

2200
03:02:50,360 --> 03:02:52,360
We'll continue on with Councillor Plexus.

2201
03:02:52,360 --> 03:02:53,360
Thank you.

2202
03:02:53,360 --> 03:02:55,360
Appreciate everyone being here tonight.

2203
03:02:55,360 --> 03:02:58,360
And certainly appreciate you responding to all the questions.

2204
03:02:58,360 --> 03:02:59,360
Question, I have a couple questions.

2205
03:02:59,360 --> 03:03:08,360
One is, it indicated on the report that this particular site can handle with the new technology,

2206
03:03:08,360 --> 03:03:11,360
aggregate and demolition material as well.

2207
03:03:11,360 --> 03:03:14,360
And is there intention to do that as well on that site?

2208
03:03:15,360 --> 03:03:16,360
The new technology could do that.

2209
03:03:16,360 --> 03:03:18,360
I mean, it can do that.

2210
03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:19,360
Like we don't really have plans for that.

2211
03:03:19,360 --> 03:03:23,360
That's not as common in around here as it would be in Europe.

2212
03:03:23,360 --> 03:03:25,360
So I've gone to Europe to look at a number of these in Europe.

2213
03:03:25,360 --> 03:03:28,360
So watching facilities are kind of mainstream there.

2214
03:03:28,360 --> 03:03:31,360
They tried to not quarry and they try not to landfill.

2215
03:03:31,360 --> 03:03:35,360
So anything that has taken out of a construction site goes into a soil wash facility.

2216
03:03:35,360 --> 03:03:37,360
So it would be, it would be capable of doing it.

2217
03:03:37,360 --> 03:03:39,360
The demand is not really there right now.

2218
03:03:39,360 --> 03:03:42,360
But if the demand is there, we would do it for sure.

2219
03:03:42,360 --> 03:03:43,360
Yeah.

2220
03:03:43,360 --> 03:03:47,360
Secondly, you indicate that would take some of the truck traffic of kill avenue.

2221
03:03:47,360 --> 03:03:49,360
Is there a possibility?

2222
03:03:49,360 --> 03:03:54,360
And I don't know the volume of soil coming in, contaminate soil.

2223
03:03:54,360 --> 03:04:00,360
If you load up the site and you can't take any more in, depending on how fast it moves out and gets clean.

2224
03:04:00,360 --> 03:04:03,360
Is it possible you would move that contaminate soil to another site?

2225
03:04:03,360 --> 03:04:06,360
Tell you are able to clean it.

2226
03:04:06,360 --> 03:04:08,360
No, I don't think so.

2227
03:04:08,360 --> 03:04:09,360
We wouldn't be moving.

2228
03:04:09,360 --> 03:04:14,360
It would be too expensive for us to unload soil and then load it up again and bring it somewhere and unload it again.

2229
03:04:14,360 --> 03:04:15,360
That costs quite a bit of money.

2230
03:04:15,360 --> 03:04:19,360
So I think we would just using our operations planning.

2231
03:04:19,360 --> 03:04:20,360
We'd make sure they didn't happen.

2232
03:04:20,360 --> 03:04:21,360
Good.

2233
03:04:21,360 --> 03:04:22,360
Thank you.

2234
03:04:22,360 --> 03:04:27,360
And the other question was, you've indicated, I think, staff indicated you've applied for a permutative

2235
03:04:27,360 --> 03:04:29,360
Ministry of Environment for this particular site.

2236
03:04:29,360 --> 03:04:33,360
This particular site is really according to what the report.

2237
03:04:33,360 --> 03:04:34,360
It's a preload only.

2238
03:04:34,360 --> 03:04:38,360
And you're looking at taking the existing permutative.

2239
03:04:38,360 --> 03:04:46,360
You have for the Duncan Avenue site and transferred an admin to getting it from that one to this site.

2240
03:04:46,360 --> 03:04:47,360
Or putting a new one.

2241
03:04:47,360 --> 03:04:50,360
Do you apply for a new permit or just an amendment to current permit?

2242
03:04:50,360 --> 03:04:52,360
We applied for a new permit.

2243
03:04:52,360 --> 03:04:57,360
Originally, the mission environment was open to us extending the permit onto the new property.

2244
03:04:57,360 --> 03:05:02,360
And then when they looked at the full scope, they thought we should do a complete new permit.

2245
03:05:02,360 --> 03:05:06,360
So once this is done, we'd have a permit on this facility, a brand new permit.

2246
03:05:06,360 --> 03:05:07,360
Okay, thank you.

2247
03:05:07,360 --> 03:05:08,360
Thank you.

2248
03:05:08,360 --> 03:05:11,360
My last question right now is Councillor Davies.

2249
03:05:11,360 --> 03:05:13,360
I'll check with Councillor Hararb.

2250
03:05:13,360 --> 03:05:15,360
I've closed up the curing.

2251
03:05:15,360 --> 03:05:16,360
Councillor Davies.

2252
03:05:16,360 --> 03:05:17,360
Thank you.

2253
03:05:17,360 --> 03:05:18,360
Thank you.

2254
03:05:18,360 --> 03:05:19,360
Mr. Vanlar.

2255
03:05:19,360 --> 03:05:21,360
Questions on regarding the wheel wash?

2256
03:05:21,360 --> 03:05:24,360
Are you going to be installing a wheel wash facility at both locations?

2257
03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:25,360
Yes.

2258
03:05:25,360 --> 03:05:26,360
Yeah.

2259
03:05:26,360 --> 03:05:27,360
It's actually.

2260
03:05:27,360 --> 03:05:28,360
Okay.

2261
03:05:28,360 --> 03:05:29,360
Sorry.

2262
03:05:29,360 --> 03:05:31,360
We have a wheel wash on our existing facility.

2263
03:05:31,360 --> 03:05:36,360
It's not like a pressure nozzle spray wheel wash, which is what we've been installing here.

2264
03:05:36,360 --> 03:05:39,360
In the last few months, like we started hearing some feedback.

2265
03:05:39,360 --> 03:05:41,360
So right away, we basically say, yeah, we're going to install one of those.

2266
03:05:41,360 --> 03:05:44,360
It's going to cost us a lot of money, but we'll do it to fix it.

2267
03:05:44,360 --> 03:05:46,360
So we press your wheel wash.

2268
03:05:46,360 --> 03:05:47,360
That's right.

2269
03:05:47,360 --> 03:05:50,360
The drivers that come through to your facilities.

2270
03:05:50,360 --> 03:05:51,360
Are they your drivers?

2271
03:05:51,360 --> 03:05:52,360
Are they into your driver?

2272
03:05:52,360 --> 03:05:53,360
It's a mixture.

2273
03:05:53,360 --> 03:05:54,360
Yeah.

2274
03:05:54,360 --> 03:05:55,360
It's a mixture.

2275
03:05:55,360 --> 03:05:56,360
What's the mixture?

2276
03:05:56,360 --> 03:05:58,360
I mean, we have.

2277
03:05:58,360 --> 03:06:02,360
It's probably majority external trucks and then minority internal trucks.

2278
03:06:02,360 --> 03:06:08,360
I do operate at best practices guide for drivers to ensure that they're operating within the neighborhood.

2279
03:06:08,360 --> 03:06:09,360
Yeah.

2280
03:06:09,360 --> 03:06:10,360
Walley, who is here.

2281
03:06:10,360 --> 03:06:11,360
He's our health and safety manager.

2282
03:06:11,360 --> 03:06:13,360
And he is completely on top of health and safety.

2283
03:06:13,360 --> 03:06:16,360
We operate in really tough zones.

2284
03:06:16,360 --> 03:06:17,360
So we're on top of that.

2285
03:06:17,360 --> 03:06:20,360
And how many trucks per day do you get at the Gil.

2286
03:06:20,360 --> 03:06:22,360
Or on Gil Street today?

2287
03:06:22,360 --> 03:06:25,360
On average, probably somewhere between 15 to 30.

2288
03:06:26,360 --> 03:06:27,360
Three a day.

2289
03:06:27,360 --> 03:06:28,360
And what reduction?

2290
03:06:28,360 --> 03:06:31,360
You said that the new location would reduce that.

2291
03:06:31,360 --> 03:06:33,360
What percentage of reduction would that be?

2292
03:06:33,360 --> 03:06:35,360
It'll probably depend on type of contaminant.

2293
03:06:35,360 --> 03:06:40,360
So on certain days, if a type of contaminant each facility will be more specialized in each type of contaminant.

2294
03:06:40,360 --> 03:06:41,360
It'll depend on that.

2295
03:06:41,360 --> 03:06:43,360
But on general, it'll be significant.

2296
03:06:43,360 --> 03:06:44,360
I can't give you an exact number.

2297
03:06:44,360 --> 03:06:46,360
I could make one up, but I don't want to do that.

2298
03:06:46,360 --> 03:06:48,360
So it'll be significant.

2299
03:06:48,360 --> 03:06:50,360
Thank you.

2300
03:06:50,360 --> 03:06:51,360
Can you answer her?

2301
03:06:51,360 --> 03:06:52,360
Have any questions?

2302
03:06:52,360 --> 03:06:53,360
I've been answered.

2303
03:06:53,360 --> 03:06:54,360
So with mine.

2304
03:06:54,360 --> 03:06:56,360
And so we have exhausted the speakers list.

2305
03:06:56,360 --> 03:07:01,360
So I will consider that I will call this particular public hearing closed.

2306
03:07:01,360 --> 03:07:02,360
And we'll move on to the next one.

2307
03:07:02,360 --> 03:07:03,360
Thank you.

2308
03:07:03,360 --> 03:07:05,360
Thank you very much to members of the public.

2309
03:07:05,360 --> 03:07:08,360
And I've cleared the public hearing closed.

2310
03:07:08,360 --> 03:07:10,360
I've already asked people a third time to speak.

2311
03:07:10,360 --> 03:07:13,360
So the public hearing is now closed on that one.

2312
03:07:13,360 --> 03:07:17,360
And we'll move on to the second public hearing for the evening.

2313
03:07:17,360 --> 03:07:24,360
Which is zoning amending by $640 to 2026.5949204.

2314
03:07:24,360 --> 03:07:27,360
And Mr. Public can introduce this one.

2315
03:07:44,360 --> 03:07:45,360
Public hearing.

2316
03:07:45,360 --> 03:07:48,360
I'll just get you to wait one second.

2317
03:07:48,360 --> 03:07:49,360
Perhaps.

2318
03:07:49,360 --> 03:07:50,360
Yes.

2319
03:07:50,360 --> 03:07:51,360
Thank you, Mr. Philippine.

2320
03:07:51,360 --> 03:07:53,360
Mr. Grumwell will come in.

2321
03:07:53,360 --> 03:08:03,360
I'll make a watch online to be a while.

2322
03:08:03,360 --> 03:08:04,360
Time to get one.

2323
03:08:04,360 --> 03:08:06,360
I don't think so.

2324
03:08:06,360 --> 03:08:09,360
We're going to get Mr. Pablo to get started here.

2325
03:08:09,360 --> 03:08:12,360
But perhaps.

2326
03:08:12,360 --> 03:08:14,360
If we need to in a moment, we can take a break.

2327
03:08:14,360 --> 03:08:16,360
But for now, I'll get him to go.

2328
03:08:16,360 --> 03:08:18,360
Mr. Pablo, go ahead.

2329
03:08:18,360 --> 03:08:22,360
This public hearing is for an application to amend the M.T.

2330
03:08:22,360 --> 03:08:28,360
One zone to permit shared amenity common indoor spaces within the city of

2331
03:08:28,360 --> 03:08:29,360
Mission.

2332
03:08:29,360 --> 03:08:35,360
This slide shows just a couple of the examples that we have seen from other communities.

2333
03:08:35,360 --> 03:08:39,360
In particular, this is a one from Delta and one from Abbotsford.

2334
03:08:40,360 --> 03:08:49,360
In reason to have this pilot study is to allow for the sharing of indoor

2335
03:08:49,360 --> 03:08:52,360
amenity spaces between multiple complexes.

2336
03:08:52,360 --> 03:08:58,360
The one of the requirements will be that legal agreements are required between townhouses.

2337
03:08:58,360 --> 03:09:08,360
The there'll be a radius requirement of 400 meters between the consolidated indoor amenity sites.

2338
03:09:09,360 --> 03:09:16,360
The shared amenity buildings are required private facility owned and operated and

2339
03:09:16,360 --> 03:09:19,360
maintained by the participating strata corporations.

2340
03:09:19,360 --> 03:09:23,360
The city would require an incumbent registered on title prohibiting the

2341
03:09:23,360 --> 03:09:26,360
dissolution of these legal agreements.

2342
03:09:26,360 --> 03:09:33,360
Benefit of providing the shared amenity spaces.

2343
03:09:34,360 --> 03:09:39,360
So this provides an opportunity for greater diversity of amenity spaces being provided in

2344
03:09:39,360 --> 03:09:43,360
these large combined units.

2345
03:09:43,360 --> 03:09:48,360
The cheese and economy of scale for the developer and the strata corporations.

2346
03:09:48,360 --> 03:09:53,360
It creates a social hub for the broader community that, you know, in some

2347
03:09:53,360 --> 03:09:58,360
case it can be a number of hundreds of strata units large.

2348
03:09:58,360 --> 03:10:05,360
And it advocates for walkable communities by connecting all of the townhouse sites with, you know,

2349
03:10:05,360 --> 03:10:10,360
heightened pedestrian amenities.

2350
03:10:10,360 --> 03:10:15,360
Part of the requirements, part of the changes that are going into the zoning by law are summarized here.

2351
03:10:15,360 --> 03:10:20,360
So we're going to be creating definitions for the amenity shared common space.

2352
03:10:20,360 --> 03:10:26,360
We're going to be creating definitions for a caretaker residents and guests accommodations.

2353
03:10:26,360 --> 03:10:36,360
We are creating requirements for onsite parking for this use.

2354
03:10:36,360 --> 03:10:40,360
Go through some of the details here.

2355
03:10:40,360 --> 03:10:50,360
So any space common indoor, which is the new definition, which is unlike other common space, is not exempt from

2356
03:10:50,360 --> 03:10:57,360
space regulations because on these unique sites, they would be the only use the principle use.

2357
03:10:57,360 --> 03:11:01,360
As noted parking requirements are low to encourage walkability.

2358
03:11:01,360 --> 03:11:07,360
These facilities are private, not for commercial use and serve the limited catchment.

2359
03:11:07,360 --> 03:11:17,360
There's also an opportunity to provide outdoor amenity spaces at a 50% credit, such as pools or basketball courts to increase diversity of features provided.

2360
03:11:21,360 --> 03:11:29,360
One of the considerations is the 400-meter radius, which is, and that's what's deemed walkable within four to six minutes.

2361
03:11:29,360 --> 03:11:32,360
So that's where that requirement comes from.

2362
03:11:32,360 --> 03:11:36,360
It's similar to that catchment of a bus stop.

2363
03:11:36,360 --> 03:11:45,360
These catchments are again planned to be used in all areas of mention, and sort of they're consistent with transit oriented area principles.

2364
03:11:45,360 --> 03:11:55,360
They discovered, they discovered driving between the sites and the need for large asphalt parking lots.

2365
03:11:55,360 --> 03:12:00,360
This is an example of what that 400-meter radius would look like if it was applied to our own recreational facility.

2366
03:12:00,360 --> 03:12:10,360
So that's the kind of catchment area that would be created by this 400-meter radius that we're proposing.

2367
03:12:10,360 --> 03:12:17,360
When this file I was introduced, one of the topics of concern with parking, so we've got a couple of slides just illustrating what that would look like.

2368
03:12:17,360 --> 03:12:22,360
So this slide summarizes the requirement that's proposed in the by-law.

2369
03:12:22,360 --> 03:12:28,360
One and a half spaces per dwelling unit when that when a dwelling unit is provided within the amenity building.

2370
03:12:28,360 --> 03:12:37,360
And again, one for a gas decommodation, if it's provided in the amenity building, two accessible parking spaces, two drop off parking spaces,

2371
03:12:37,360 --> 03:12:42,360
and then one space per 250-meter square of amenity space.

2372
03:12:42,360 --> 03:12:50,360
And one space for employee if an amenity building is intended to have a day care for instance.

2373
03:12:50,360 --> 03:12:57,360
Table summarizes some of the different options and compares it to different standards that could be applied.

2374
03:12:57,360 --> 03:13:13,360
The green highlighted line is the proposal from staff, which results in if the building is 2,120-meter square, it results in need for eight parking spaces.

2375
03:13:13,360 --> 03:13:16,360
The next couple slides illustrate what that looks like.

2376
03:13:16,360 --> 03:13:26,360
So this is what the parking on in this scenario is that eight parking stalls directly to the east of this proposed building.

2377
03:13:26,360 --> 03:13:31,360
If we increase that to a need for 20 parking stalls, that's what the parking lot looks like.

2378
03:13:31,360 --> 03:13:39,360
It doubles in size a little more than double with the required travel lanes.

2379
03:13:39,360 --> 03:13:50,360
And then again at 40 parking stalls, that's what it would look like if you if we up the requirement for parking.

2380
03:13:50,360 --> 03:13:56,360
We have some comparable examples, so this is the club west from Abbasford.

2381
03:13:56,360 --> 03:14:00,360
They require four parking stalls for their shared amenity facility.

2382
03:14:00,360 --> 03:14:09,360
And their radius, the project serves for this amenity building serves people within 430-meter square.

2383
03:14:09,360 --> 03:14:12,360
So that's what that looks like on the ground.

2384
03:14:12,360 --> 03:14:17,360
The next example is similar. This is from the Sunsoon Development in Delta.

2385
03:14:17,360 --> 03:14:20,360
That project required nine parking stalls.

2386
03:14:20,360 --> 03:14:23,360
And this is the radius it serves.

2387
03:14:23,360 --> 03:14:25,360
The radius is 520-meter square.

2388
03:14:25,360 --> 03:14:30,360
But again, it's a very compact walkable radius.

2389
03:14:30,360 --> 03:14:37,360
The final example is from Parkalquitland, where they required five parking stalls.

2390
03:14:37,360 --> 03:14:45,360
And this is the layout of the whole project and the radius and sort of that measure of walkability for that provision.

2391
03:14:45,360 --> 03:14:57,360
So that's sort of part of the background that went into staff's recommendation of this relatively low parking count.

2392
03:14:57,360 --> 03:15:00,360
So as a summary, staff would recommend to the new by-law.

2393
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:11,000
On amendment for third reading, staff have received the application indicating interest in the shared amenity building, and staff believe it could be a valuable option through it.

2394
03:15:11,000 --> 03:15:17,000
The community for developers to provide a wide array of recreational options within their required amenity buildings.

2395
03:15:17,000 --> 03:15:21,000
Thank you very much. Ms. Hubbard, can you summarize correspondence, please?

2396
03:15:21,000 --> 03:15:31,000
Absolutely, one written submission in support has been received from the applicant, saying that large communal amenity building service future phases of development.

2397
03:15:31,000 --> 03:15:43,000
To be clear, this is not specific to a particular application. This is for the entire city, so we need to be careful. There isn't a specific applicant on this particular case.

2398
03:15:43,000 --> 03:15:49,000
It's one developer who is hoping that the general policy will change. Is that a fair statement?

2399
03:15:49,000 --> 03:16:02,000
It is in that this by-law amendment will apply municipality wide all-product within the empty one zone, but it was put forward by a particular applicant who's interested in pursuing this type of build.

2400
03:16:02,000 --> 03:16:04,000
Thank you for that clarification. I appreciate it.

2401
03:16:04,000 --> 03:16:14,000
We'll turn now to our online participants. If you wish to speak, there would be a good time to raise your hand and Ms. Cooper will let us know if you're wishing to speak.

2402
03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:27,000
Ms. Cooper on the first call, is there anybody? Ms. Cooper has one person. Just wait and I'll tell you when I can see your name on my screen and I'll be able to go ahead.

2403
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:30,000
Mr. Bond, you can unmute.

2404
03:16:31,000 --> 03:16:37,000
Yeah, I think this is an awesome idea. Thanks for having me, Mayor and councillors. I just had one quick question.

2405
03:16:37,000 --> 03:16:44,000
So, it's a private facility for the residents within the radius, correct?

2406
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:51,000
You'll have to go through the chair, but Mr. Pablo, it's a shared facility for if I remember,

2407
03:16:51,000 --> 03:16:58,000
is that I'm a correct up to 10 buildings or 10 complexes, could you share it?

2408
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:07,000
It is a shared private facility, so the background is that all townhouse projects over 25 units are required to build indoor amenity spaces.

2409
03:17:07,000 --> 03:17:15,000
This allows multiple townhouse projects to share in the provision of that indoor space in typically, or what we're expecting,

2410
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:22,000
what we're expecting, much larger, more diverse products for townhouse buildings.

2411
03:17:22,000 --> 03:17:30,000
So, my question kind of, that leads sideways into my question, which is, and I'm not, I'm not against this at all.

2412
03:17:30,000 --> 03:17:35,000
I'm just curious and I'm just trying to understand what logistics I've been really, is that.

2413
03:17:35,000 --> 03:17:44,000
In this radius that we're speaking, if there's a sad resident that wants to access this private facility,

2414
03:17:44,000 --> 03:17:49,000
do they walk on all private walkways to get there, or do they walk on municipal walkways?

2415
03:17:49,000 --> 03:17:54,000
Like in Howard, these walkways being maintained and snow in those types of situations.

2416
03:17:54,000 --> 03:18:01,000
My understanding is that there may be a combination of private roads leading to public roads that would have already been plowed.

2417
03:18:01,000 --> 03:18:07,000
The public roads would have been plowed according to our street-flying policy, and the individual complexes,

2418
03:18:07,000 --> 03:18:13,000
both on the property of the amenity center, as well as our own private strata roads, would be responsible for own.

2419
03:18:13,000 --> 03:18:15,000
Snow-plowing.

2420
03:18:15,000 --> 03:18:19,000
Yeah, that's small, that's all I was curious, that's all, thank you.

2421
03:18:19,000 --> 03:18:21,000
Thank you.

2422
03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:24,000
Do we have a second speaker online, Ms. Cooper?

2423
03:18:24,000 --> 03:18:30,000
Okay, for the first time here in chambers, is there anybody wishes to speak to this?

2424
03:18:30,000 --> 03:18:39,000
Or a second time online, Ms. Cooper, for a second time in person?

2425
03:18:39,000 --> 03:18:42,000
Or a third and final time online?

2426
03:18:42,000 --> 03:18:43,000
Thank you.

2427
03:18:43,000 --> 03:18:47,000
And for a third and final time in person, is there anybody wishes to speak to this?

2428
03:18:47,000 --> 03:18:50,000
Before I go to Councilor's for questions?

2429
03:18:50,000 --> 03:18:52,000
Seeing none, members of Council on any questions?

2430
03:18:52,000 --> 03:18:53,000
Councilor Davies?

2431
03:18:53,000 --> 03:18:54,000
Councilor Gil.

2432
03:18:54,000 --> 03:18:55,000
After that?

2433
03:18:55,000 --> 03:18:58,000
You had a question through the chair of Mr. Pillow.

2434
03:18:58,000 --> 03:19:03,000
The 400 meter radius, is that hard set depending on the townhouse complex?

2435
03:19:03,000 --> 03:19:09,000
What's the policy if we end up with five townhomes at our exceeding that radius?

2436
03:19:09,000 --> 03:19:20,000
So this, the 400 meter radius is what we're proposing to embed into the empty one zone.

2437
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:27,000
If the say in the future a project came and they had a project that was 420 meters.

2438
03:19:27,000 --> 03:19:31,000
One of their facilities was 420 meters away from the shared image building.

2439
03:19:31,000 --> 03:19:38,000
They'd have options to consult with staff and either seek a variance or an amendment to the empty one zone.

2440
03:19:39,000 --> 03:19:43,000
It's just to be clear on the question, and maybe this is what you're asking.

2441
03:19:43,000 --> 03:19:46,000
I'm not sure if this is your question.

2442
03:19:46,000 --> 03:19:53,000
Does the entire development have to be within 400 meters or just some portion of it has to be within the 400 meters?

2443
03:19:53,000 --> 03:19:54,000
Right.

2444
03:19:54,000 --> 03:19:58,000
So the way we've written the bilite would be some portion of that site.

2445
03:19:58,000 --> 03:20:04,000
So if you have a very long linear site, if the tip of your site is within that 400 meter radius,

2446
03:20:04,000 --> 03:20:07,000
we would consider you within the radius.

2447
03:20:07,000 --> 03:20:09,000
So that really wouldn't happen then.

2448
03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:11,000
So as long as there's one in it, they're all on it.

2449
03:20:11,000 --> 03:20:12,000
That's right.

2450
03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:14,000
That's what I thought your question was.

2451
03:20:14,000 --> 03:20:15,000
Thank you.

2452
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:17,000
Councillor Gill.

2453
03:20:17,000 --> 03:20:19,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

2454
03:20:19,000 --> 03:20:22,000
I guess just a clarification question.

2455
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:28,000
For the connectivity to this clubhouse, is it all through trails, private trails and strata,

2456
03:20:28,000 --> 03:20:31,000
or will the residents, because the question?

2457
03:20:31,000 --> 03:20:34,000
The question I just Mr. Barn asked was for snow clearing.

2458
03:20:34,000 --> 03:20:39,000
I know we don't clear sidewalks, and the parking is limited at these clubhouses.

2459
03:20:39,000 --> 03:20:46,000
So for an event, if it's snowed, if residents were going to walk there, would they, would there be a,

2460
03:20:46,000 --> 03:20:50,000
I guess through private trails or strata roads, or would they have to,

2461
03:20:50,000 --> 03:20:54,000
some of the residents would have to go on public roads or public sidewalks?

2462
03:20:55,000 --> 03:21:01,000
So just to be clear, so this.

2463
03:21:01,000 --> 03:21:06,000
Those kinds of design elements, about the actual pedestrian connectivity and the linkage to those

2464
03:21:06,000 --> 03:21:10,000
future shared in many spaces, should they be permitted?

2465
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:15,000
Would all be part of the development permit that would come forth in the future?

2466
03:21:15,000 --> 03:21:20,000
That said, I would imagine there to be, in mixture, depending on the product and where it was,

2467
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:30,000
the next year of both public roads, sidewalks, strata owned mobs or trails within the strata, strata roads,

2468
03:21:30,000 --> 03:21:34,000
and also municipal mobs and trails.

2469
03:21:34,000 --> 03:21:41,000
So there's going to be all those forms coordinating to lead people to these facilities.

2470
03:21:41,000 --> 03:21:47,000
Okay, so there is no real restriction that it has to be restricted to strata,

2471
03:21:47,000 --> 03:21:49,000
road, just strata pathways.

2472
03:21:49,000 --> 03:21:55,000
As far as the walkability, no, but that would absolutely be part of what staff are looking at,

2473
03:21:55,000 --> 03:21:59,000
down the road when we're in the development permit stage.

2474
03:21:59,000 --> 03:22:02,000
And then secondly is, would this be part of the,

2475
03:22:02,000 --> 03:22:08,000
the rezoning application of an applicant did bring this forward and Council would be able to see those design elements as well,

2476
03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:11,000
or does the approving officer decide that approval?

2477
03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:16,000
No, this, this would be Council authority through the development permits,

2478
03:22:16,000 --> 03:22:22,000
where if there's rezoning needed, it would be with both rezoning and development permits,

2479
03:22:22,000 --> 03:22:28,000
where where this plan for pedestrian connectivity would be demonstrated through that development permit.

2480
03:22:28,000 --> 03:22:29,000
Thank you.

2481
03:22:29,000 --> 03:22:35,000
Councillor Davis, before I go to Councillor Davis, let me check and see if anybody has got a question before you that hasn't asked.

2482
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:36,000
Go ahead.

2483
03:22:36,000 --> 03:22:37,000
Go ahead, Councillor Davis.

2484
03:22:37,000 --> 03:22:38,000
Thank you.

2485
03:22:38,000 --> 03:22:43,000
Last question, Mr. Pablo, within this policy was there any thought given to delegation,

2486
03:22:43,000 --> 03:22:48,000
if a radius needed to be increased in that unit wasn't inside of the radius,

2487
03:22:48,000 --> 03:22:52,000
that staff had the authority to do some delegation without slowing things down,

2488
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:55,000
needing to come for a variance.

2489
03:22:55,000 --> 03:22:58,000
Well, we hadn't thought about that particularity.

2490
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:02,000
In general, these projects are going to come to Council through the development permit.

2491
03:23:02,000 --> 03:23:07,000
So if we had an instance where it was outside the radius, it would become,

2492
03:23:07,000 --> 03:23:11,000
it would come packaged as part of the development permit to Council.

2493
03:23:11,000 --> 03:23:12,000
Thank you.

2494
03:23:12,000 --> 03:23:15,000
Seeing the other questions and having you exhausted our speakers,

2495
03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:18,000
I will call this public hearing closed.

2496
03:23:18,000 --> 03:23:21,000
And I thank everybody who's participated in the public hearings.

2497
03:23:21,000 --> 03:23:22,000
We have this evening.

2498
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:26,000
We'll move now to item five, which is Resolution Resolve into the Committee of the Whole,

2499
03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:29,000
moved by Councillor Lyas and seconded by Councillor Hurrah.

2500
03:23:29,000 --> 03:23:30,000
All those in favour?

2501
03:23:30,000 --> 03:23:31,000
Opposed?

2502
03:23:31,000 --> 03:23:33,000
We are in committee of the whole.

2503
03:23:33,000 --> 03:23:35,000
We move on to item six.

2504
03:23:35,000 --> 03:23:38,000
I нед�igma.

2505
03:23:38,000 --> 03:23:41,000
Weekend and tante Lectures for that.

2506
03:23:41,000 --> 03:23:43,000
Let's start on this morning.

2507
03:23:43,000 --> 03:23:44,000
Okay, the party is opening.

2508
03:23:44,000 --> 03:23:48,000
We have $10,000.

2509
03:23:48,000 --> 03:23:52,000
Dependent and adjourned.

2510
03:23:52,000 --> 03:24:04,320
So here's the committee's final Stage, the chair of the committee is

2511
03:24:04,320 --> 03:24:10,600
I appreciate all that you've done and shown the profit in the difficult circumstances and I do appreciate.

2512
03:24:10,600 --> 03:24:17,760
The question was, and I just an ask is, where are we out with a Doyle Street parking lot?

2513
03:24:17,760 --> 03:24:22,000
There's part of work that you're taking on this year, is it moving forward or is it moving forward?

2514
03:24:22,000 --> 03:24:27,480
Yeah, I think I do have an update there, so the parking lot location has been ribbon in the field

2515
03:24:27,480 --> 03:24:32,840
and we're currently working on assessments, so our archaeological assessment will be completed tomorrow.

2516
03:24:32,840 --> 03:24:37,840
Hydrological assessment, I'll be completed this week, I just talked to the hydrologist today.

2517
03:24:37,840 --> 03:24:43,840
And so that is looking at impacts of the parking lot on hydrology and local water quality.

2518
03:24:43,840 --> 03:24:55,840
And then environmental assessments, so we're getting an engineered parking lot design and the completion of a erosion and sediment control plan and the engineered design includes water control measures in the parking lot.

2519
03:24:55,840 --> 03:24:59,840
We'll also put in a cutting permanent application to the province this week.

2520
03:24:59,840 --> 03:25:10,840
And it all goes well with the assessments we expect construction to start in late April, assuming the permit gets issued in a timely fashion, which I expect it will us not a large cutting area.

2521
03:25:10,840 --> 03:25:11,840
Thank you for your response.

2522
03:25:11,840 --> 03:25:12,840
Thank you.

2523
03:25:12,840 --> 03:25:24,840
Mr. Greenwald, it's a very good news and unexpected news given the climate of the economy right now and I would just ask that you work with communications to tell the story around this news.

2524
03:25:24,840 --> 03:25:30,840
I think people need to know more whenever we have the chance to talk about what our forestry operations do.

2525
03:25:30,840 --> 03:25:36,840
It would be valuable and I think an update regarding the Dwell Street parking would also be available part of that.

2526
03:25:36,840 --> 03:25:37,840
Thank you very, very, very much.

2527
03:25:37,840 --> 03:25:38,840
I appreciate it.

2528
03:25:38,840 --> 03:25:39,840
Thank you.

2529
03:25:39,840 --> 03:25:40,840
Seeing no other questions.

2530
03:25:40,840 --> 03:25:42,840
We'll move on to the next item.

2531
03:25:42,840 --> 03:25:43,840
Thank you.

2532
03:25:43,840 --> 03:25:47,840
Item seven A, there's a recommendation from staff and there is one amendment.

2533
03:25:47,840 --> 03:25:53,840
I'm sorry before I go in that is that it's number seven should say the 2026 date.

2534
03:25:53,840 --> 03:25:57,840
But I'm assuming that's not particularly important in your motion.

2535
03:25:57,840 --> 03:25:58,840
Move them off.

2536
03:25:58,840 --> 03:25:59,840
Okay.

2537
03:25:59,840 --> 03:26:01,840
And we are in committee.

2538
03:26:01,840 --> 03:26:03,840
We don't need a second or anybody with a comment or question.

2539
03:26:03,840 --> 03:26:05,840
Thank you to our applicants.

2540
03:26:05,840 --> 03:26:07,840
Thank you to our jury who done this process.

2541
03:26:07,840 --> 03:26:08,840
Thank you.

2542
03:26:08,840 --> 03:26:09,840
Thank you.

2543
03:26:09,840 --> 03:26:11,840
Thank you to.

2544
03:26:11,840 --> 03:26:15,840
Thank you as well to Mr. Haney for improving our process.

2545
03:26:16,840 --> 03:26:17,840
We do have comments.

2546
03:26:17,840 --> 03:26:20,840
I'd ask if let's go forward if we're going to have a comment.

2547
03:26:20,840 --> 03:26:21,840
Thank you.

2548
03:26:21,840 --> 03:26:23,840
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

2549
03:26:23,840 --> 03:26:29,840
I guess my first question is, I know in the report you talked about opening night theater would be awarded in kind.

2550
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:32,840
Clarke, collect theater usage to support their work.

2551
03:26:32,840 --> 03:26:35,840
Instead of monies.

2552
03:26:35,840 --> 03:26:36,840
Are they aware of that?

2553
03:26:36,840 --> 03:26:38,840
Or was there any feedback from them?

2554
03:26:38,840 --> 03:26:40,840
Dr. Crow.

2555
03:26:41,840 --> 03:26:45,840
I believe once the decision is made everything is passed tonight.

2556
03:26:45,840 --> 03:26:52,840
Mr. Haney and his team will reach out to the applicants and give them news of what they've received.

2557
03:26:52,840 --> 03:26:55,840
I understand it and correct me if this is wrong.

2558
03:26:55,840 --> 03:27:00,840
Mr. Union is that some conversations had happened with some applicants already.

2559
03:27:00,840 --> 03:27:02,840
Yes, certainly.

2560
03:27:02,840 --> 03:27:07,840
I know that Mr. Haney did have a conversation with opening night theater, but I don't know what was in the conversation.

2561
03:27:07,840 --> 03:27:08,840
Okay. Thank you.

2562
03:27:09,840 --> 03:27:16,840
I guess my second question is, I know what to pin job culture club in the report talks about that they received funding last year.

2563
03:27:16,840 --> 03:27:18,840
And both of their events were not completed.

2564
03:27:18,840 --> 03:27:22,840
But for my understanding, one of the events was completed.

2565
03:27:22,840 --> 03:27:25,840
So is that just an error in the report?

2566
03:27:27,840 --> 03:27:28,840
Mr. Crow.

2567
03:27:28,840 --> 03:27:32,840
That's my understanding as well and that council has been presented.

2568
03:27:32,840 --> 03:27:34,840
But I think that version of events.

2569
03:27:34,840 --> 03:27:36,840
Yes, that is my belief.

2570
03:27:37,840 --> 03:27:39,840
The misprint essentially.

2571
03:27:39,840 --> 03:27:45,840
I guess my next question is just for the criteria.

2572
03:27:45,840 --> 03:27:51,840
I know there are some events that you know have you know a wider attendance of folks that do attend.

2573
03:27:51,840 --> 03:27:53,840
Is that part of the criteria?

2574
03:27:53,840 --> 03:27:55,840
Just the impact.

2575
03:27:55,840 --> 03:27:59,840
I guess for people attending.

2576
03:28:00,840 --> 03:28:07,840
So the criteria that applicants are rated based off of.

2577
03:28:07,840 --> 03:28:10,840
They it includes a community partnerships.

2578
03:28:10,840 --> 03:28:15,840
That's worth 10 points feasibility of the overall project is worth five points.

2579
03:28:15,840 --> 03:28:20,840
Budget is worth five points as well and community benefit is worth 20 points.

2580
03:28:20,840 --> 03:28:25,840
So they would take all of that into consideration when the jury goes through the applications.

2581
03:28:25,840 --> 03:28:28,840
Would you say where would community I guess.

2582
03:28:28,840 --> 03:28:33,840
The reach or the audience or the attendance where would that fit in that criteria.

2583
03:28:33,840 --> 03:28:36,840
Without being a part of the jury process myself,

2584
03:28:36,840 --> 03:28:39,840
I would imagine it to be under the community.

2585
03:28:39,840 --> 03:28:43,840
Sorry, the community benefit portion of the rubric.

2586
03:28:43,840 --> 03:28:45,840
With with with the 10 points.

2587
03:28:45,840 --> 03:28:48,840
I believe with 20 20 points.

2588
03:28:52,840 --> 03:28:53,840
Thank you.

2589
03:28:53,840 --> 03:28:54,840
Thank you.

2590
03:28:55,840 --> 03:28:57,840
Thank you.

2591
03:28:57,840 --> 03:28:58,840
Mayor.

2592
03:28:58,840 --> 03:29:03,840
And I just a question with regards to the legion indicating that the funding would come somewhere else.

2593
03:29:03,840 --> 03:29:06,840
Is there an indication of that funding might be coming from.

2594
03:29:06,840 --> 03:29:08,840
Or can you repeat the question.

2595
03:29:08,840 --> 03:29:11,840
The funding for the legion was taken out of the grant funding when we were going to.

2596
03:29:11,840 --> 03:29:13,840
Journal program are going to year to year.

2597
03:29:13,840 --> 03:29:14,840
Wouldn't.

2598
03:29:14,840 --> 03:29:15,840
Would be.

2599
03:29:15,840 --> 03:29:16,840
You may have a.

2600
03:29:16,840 --> 03:29:17,840
Answer on this.

2601
03:29:17,840 --> 03:29:19,840
I think that staff are looking at being.

2602
03:29:19,840 --> 03:29:20,840
Yeah.

2603
03:29:20,840 --> 03:29:24,840
That's not resolved yet, but there will be a funding sort of secured annually.

2604
03:29:24,840 --> 03:29:25,840
Mr. Stewart.

2605
03:29:25,840 --> 03:29:27,840
Well, I believe the resolution was that it was.

2606
03:29:27,840 --> 03:29:31,840
Five thousand dollars out at the far correct budget to be funded from the gaming reserve.

2607
03:29:31,840 --> 03:29:32,840
Okay.

2608
03:29:32,840 --> 03:29:33,840
That was the resolution.

2609
03:29:33,840 --> 03:29:34,840
Thank you.

2610
03:29:34,840 --> 03:29:35,840
All right.

2611
03:29:35,840 --> 03:29:36,840
There's no other questions.

2612
03:29:36,840 --> 03:29:38,840
I think the notions on the floor.

2613
03:29:38,840 --> 03:29:40,840
I'll call the question.

2614
03:29:40,840 --> 03:29:42,840
All those in favor.

2615
03:29:42,840 --> 03:29:43,840
Opposed.

2616
03:29:43,840 --> 03:29:46,840
Councilor Gilles opposed the matter carries.

2617
03:29:46,840 --> 03:29:47,840
Thank you.

2618
03:29:47,840 --> 03:29:49,840
Moving on to item eight.

2619
03:29:50,840 --> 03:29:52,840
I don't believe we have a presentation.

2620
03:29:52,840 --> 03:29:53,840
We have Ms. German here.

2621
03:29:53,840 --> 03:29:55,840
If we have questions.

2622
03:29:55,840 --> 03:29:57,840
If there's any questions.

2623
03:29:57,840 --> 03:29:59,840
We can ask them or we can put the motion.

2624
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:03,000
On the floor, there aren't any questions. Councillor Hamilton, go ahead.

2625
03:30:03,000 --> 03:30:11,000
Thank you. Mayor Horne, excuse me. So, do I gather that this does not include council members?

2626
03:30:11,000 --> 03:30:17,000
What aspect? Well, they're not protected by the policy, because it says it's for staff.

2627
03:30:17,000 --> 03:30:25,000
It's for staff, yes. If you would like us to look at whether or not we can protect council, we can certainly look at that.

2628
03:30:25,000 --> 03:30:34,000
Mr. Unie, before we move on to Councilor Lies, this question, are there other policies that have this impact?

2629
03:30:34,000 --> 03:30:39,000
It's a great question, because I've heard people come up here and start yelling at our staff.

2630
03:30:39,000 --> 03:30:49,000
And if they were yelling at a councilor, which has happened, I don't think anybody would be comfortable including the staff.

2631
03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:56,000
Similarly, there's been some examples without getting into specifics, where municipal councilors were yelling at staff.

2632
03:30:56,000 --> 03:31:03,000
And that's what I thought your question was about. Do we have something that does this?

2633
03:31:03,000 --> 03:31:17,000
If there was a councilor that was yelling at staff, and we'd be raiding and vexatious on what not, the cities policies would come into effect for that, because we have an obligation to protect our staff.

2634
03:31:17,000 --> 03:31:26,000
In terms of members of the public yelling at Councillors, we don't have an existing policy on that.

2635
03:31:26,000 --> 03:31:38,000
However, I think in the depending on the circumstances, I could see that a letter would be written from the city to that person, warning them of proper decorum and behavior and that sort of thing.

2636
03:31:38,000 --> 03:31:45,000
So, Councillor, before I go to Councillor Elias, I'll just put a thought to your head and either, I can think of two options.

2637
03:31:45,000 --> 03:31:56,000
One is that there would be an amendment suggested, and the other is to ask staff come back with some new language to address that or third option, ask staff to create a policy that is for council.

2638
03:31:56,000 --> 03:32:01,000
So, I'll come back to you, but I'll let you digest that. Those options, Councillor Elias.

2639
03:32:01,000 --> 03:32:10,000
Yeah, I, you know, it's sad that we even have to have a policy like this, but I understand, and I do agree with it. So, thanks for bringing it forward.

2640
03:32:10,000 --> 03:32:28,000
And I also would support some sort of policy moving forward to actually protect council from the same abusive behavior, because it's not been an easy three years as a city councillor, and so for future councillors to not have the abuse and some sort of protection, but in place, I think that that's extremely important.

2641
03:32:28,000 --> 03:32:37,000
So, we're at the question portion right now. We haven't got a motion on the floor. I'm going to come to council for Hamilton to see what you want us to move. Councilor Davies, you had a question?

2642
03:32:37,000 --> 03:32:50,000
I do, two questions. First off, does this also protect employees or give employees protection from abuse that they might receive online via the internet?

2643
03:32:51,000 --> 03:33:05,000
Might be a little difficult to protect people from the social media posts, because people are allowed to post what they want, so that part might be challenging to figure out how we would protect them from that.

2644
03:33:05,000 --> 03:33:21,000
Well, a lot of the abuse that both staff, council and other organisations get is internet based, and it's generally based around accusations of corruption, which this document does not have that, but staff is getting facing that as well.

2645
03:33:21,000 --> 03:33:28,000
So, I think that's a bit of a gap. And something that should be addressed, we shouldn't be afraid to address it.

2646
03:33:28,000 --> 03:33:36,000
If I might, I think it would depend on the situation and to how a grief the staff member is and what the content really was of the message there.

2647
03:33:36,000 --> 03:33:52,000
There's a general understanding that staff and councilors need to have thicker skin when it comes to that sort of those sorts of discussions, but I would say it really depends on the specifics of the commenting and the frequency and all those different things.

2648
03:33:52,000 --> 03:34:06,000
And I do understand and agree that council in particular needs to have a thicker skin, but there's also individuals that push that boundary far beyond the realms of reasonability and there needs to be.

2649
03:34:06,000 --> 03:34:13,000
So we're getting into the debate and I think we'll have a motion before we get there by that. I think I'm in one to answer something as well.

2650
03:34:13,000 --> 03:34:19,000
I think there are some remedies that under defamation and slander, so that that could be looked at as well.

2651
03:34:19,000 --> 03:34:27,000
I'm going to go to Councillor Hamilton again and I'll just say I actually really appreciate these questions which I hadn't thought about.

2652
03:34:27,000 --> 03:34:42,000
And I do think Mr. Unique. And the guest, this is my question is, what I appreciate this policy is that it talks about vexatious behavior, which I see as at least in part very personal behavior.

2653
03:34:42,000 --> 03:34:52,000
Unrelenting behavior. We received over the last few weeks an email from somebody who was unrelenting about a car on their on their street.

2654
03:34:52,000 --> 03:35:03,000
Mr. Unique and I one entire summer received calls from somebody about an unlicensed business that was upset at their neighboring unlicensed business, including while I was a holiday.

2655
03:35:03,000 --> 03:35:18,000
And so my question is to staff whether it's Ms. German or Mr. Unique. Isn't the part of the intention of this policy to say essentially we've done our best to answer you and to give staff permission to end communication with people.

2656
03:35:18,000 --> 03:35:23,000
Like one of the things that that's here is how do you polite the hang up a phone more that's internal.

2657
03:35:23,000 --> 03:35:35,000
We have a follow up policy or procedure which does provide scripts for people that is attached as attachment be, which helps people guide them through those conversations.

2658
03:35:35,000 --> 03:35:50,000
So I guess what I'm trying to get at is is there not a possibility to map to Councillor Davies and Councillor Hamilton's question that we might be able to expand this a little bit.

2659
03:35:50,000 --> 03:36:02,000
So that people who are communicating by email people who are communicating by social media messaging and targeting task or specific staff in particular.

2660
03:36:02,000 --> 03:36:12,000
That we might be able to take action to say the staff we're going to support you and or you don't need to reply any further at this point.

2661
03:36:12,000 --> 03:36:17,000
That's my question. Absolutely and I think that is referred to in the policy here as well.

2662
03:36:17,000 --> 03:36:24,000
If I remember reading it correctly, but we do that already and that's absolutely that's one of the reasons behind why this was written as well.

2663
03:36:24,000 --> 03:36:32,000
Councillor Hamilton, what's your pleasure what do you want to do here again I would say we have a few options we can ask staff to come back with those amendments we can make them here.

2664
03:36:32,000 --> 03:36:40,000
I don't know whether we're of state of mind to do that or we can ask them to do something further to relate to social media and or council.

2665
03:36:40,000 --> 03:36:58,000
In my main reason for bringing it forward I guess was probably the whole climbing that we're living in today on social media and if it's hard to do that I don't know if a policy would work but I'd be curious if other municipalities have such a policy that includes council.

2666
03:36:58,000 --> 03:37:03,000
I think a motion to defer to answer some of these questions might be in order.

2667
03:37:04,000 --> 03:37:19,000
I have to say I'm a familiar with a couple of circumstances including social media behavior including people who I would say are stalking our staff and I'm not sure this adequately addresses it so I think councilors have asked some questions here.

2668
03:37:19,000 --> 03:37:25,000
So if I might councilor Hamilton can I ask you to move to defer that we defer to get more information from staff.

2669
03:37:25,000 --> 03:37:32,000
Yeah so I think the questions relate to expansion of council and expansion to social media conduct.

2670
03:37:33,000 --> 03:37:40,000
Councilor Gil did you have a question on this I guess just on the deferment is is this time sensitive or can it be deferred.

2671
03:37:40,000 --> 03:37:41,000
Be deferred.

2672
03:37:41,000 --> 03:37:48,000
We ready for the question then thank you for asking that question council Hamilton it completely sucked my mind this is why there's seven of us.

2673
03:37:48,000 --> 03:37:50,000
Okay all those in favor.

2674
03:37:50,000 --> 03:37:51,000
Opposed.

2675
03:37:51,000 --> 03:37:53,000
It's carried thank you very much Mr. Min.

2676
03:37:53,000 --> 03:37:56,000
Thank you for your patience and waiting this evening as well.

2677
03:37:56,000 --> 03:38:10,000
All right now we move on to a bear with folks development services we have two items that are introductions nine A and nine B and these are just again for public.

2678
03:38:10,000 --> 03:38:24,000
And put this is just so that the public knows that we're about to go out for public input and council can at this point not debate the matter but ask for any specific items that they'd like staff to make sure are.

2679
03:38:24,000 --> 03:38:33,000
Right forward during the consideration or if there's a public hearing or if there's a matter on the council agenda so let's go to item nine a staff.

2680
03:38:33,000 --> 03:38:42,000
Our able to answer any questions verbally or can add them later on anybody on three or nine seven one for interview.

2681
03:38:42,000 --> 03:38:46,000
Seeing none will move on to the reintroduction report.

2682
03:38:46,000 --> 03:38:51,000
13, 1, 3, 0, 3, 3, 3, and 1, 3, 0, 8, 5, Pilgrim, Street, and I was asked by Councilor

2683
03:38:51,000 --> 03:38:52,000
Plexus a question.

2684
03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:54,840
Earlier, why is this being reintroduced?

2685
03:38:54,840 --> 03:38:57,680
And I think, essentially, what happened is we had this process.

2686
03:38:57,680 --> 03:38:59,400
We asked a bunch of questions.

2687
03:38:59,400 --> 03:39:03,800
They came and answered them and staffed to talking with them and said, this essentially is

2688
03:39:03,800 --> 03:39:04,800
a new application.

2689
03:39:04,800 --> 03:39:09,720
Is that a accurate assessment of it, or at least substantially different amount of information

2690
03:39:09,720 --> 03:39:10,720
in the application?

2691
03:39:10,720 --> 03:39:11,720
Yes.

2692
03:39:11,720 --> 03:39:17,720
So, when this was brought forward for introduction in December 15th, Councilor Express, some concerns

2693
03:39:17,720 --> 03:39:23,320
and asked for some feedback in particular how this project would meet the recently adopted

2694
03:39:23,320 --> 03:39:25,520
RMS strategies.

2695
03:39:25,520 --> 03:39:30,440
And so the applicants gone back and looked at that and provided some, some volunteering and

2696
03:39:30,440 --> 03:39:35,280
some answers to those questions and some guidelines are in how it, how and where it does

2697
03:39:35,280 --> 03:39:36,280
meet the RMS.

2698
03:39:36,280 --> 03:39:37,280
Thank you.

2699
03:39:37,280 --> 03:39:41,760
I would just start the conversation here by saying that I think that we received a summary

2700
03:39:41,760 --> 03:39:46,840
and it would really be important for the presentation to include all of those details.

2701
03:39:46,840 --> 03:39:49,840
Other questions that we should like to ask staff to handle?

2702
03:39:49,840 --> 03:39:50,840
Councillor Davis.

2703
03:39:50,840 --> 03:39:51,840
Thank you.

2704
03:39:51,840 --> 03:39:56,680
A question will be for when this comes forward to Councilor Page 127, the stream view that they're

2705
03:39:56,680 --> 03:40:01,400
showing there is really quite fascinating and I'm wondering, are they building with the intent

2706
03:40:01,400 --> 03:40:05,600
that these trees be there and this is what the neighborhood will look like or is this

2707
03:40:05,600 --> 03:40:10,520
a snapshot into the future after the trees have grown?

2708
03:40:10,520 --> 03:40:13,840
The other questions we'd like to have them include.

2709
03:40:13,840 --> 03:40:14,840
Looks like no other.

2710
03:40:14,840 --> 03:40:20,520
So we can move on to item nine C. There's a recommendation for the second reading and the

2711
03:40:20,520 --> 03:40:24,400
public hearing evening of April 7th, and we'll go back to Councilor Plexus.

2712
03:40:24,400 --> 03:40:26,440
This is for the OCP.

2713
03:40:26,440 --> 03:40:28,400
Any questions or comments?

2714
03:40:28,400 --> 03:40:29,400
We'll call the question.

2715
03:40:29,400 --> 03:40:30,400
Allows in favour?

2716
03:40:30,400 --> 03:40:31,400
Opposed?

2717
03:40:31,400 --> 03:40:32,400
unanimously?

2718
03:40:32,400 --> 03:40:34,880
A resolution to rise and report, please.

2719
03:40:34,880 --> 03:40:37,240
Councilor Davis, seconded by Councilor Elias.

2720
03:40:37,240 --> 03:40:38,240
Opposed in favour?

2721
03:40:38,240 --> 03:40:39,240
Opposed?

2722
03:40:39,240 --> 03:40:40,880
It's carried unanimously.

2723
03:40:40,880 --> 03:40:44,600
I believe we had unanimity on every item except the grants, is that correct?

2724
03:40:44,600 --> 03:40:46,760
That is correct.

2725
03:40:46,760 --> 03:40:52,140
So, a resolution to adopt the unanimous elements of the Council of the Committee of the

2726
03:40:52,140 --> 03:40:56,040
Whole would be in order to Councilor Elias, seconded by Councilor Plexus.

2727
03:40:56,040 --> 03:40:58,680
I'll call the question to those in favour?

2728
03:40:58,680 --> 03:40:59,680
Opposed?

2729
03:40:59,680 --> 03:41:00,680
Thank you very much.

2730
03:41:00,680 --> 03:41:05,120
now on the matter of the grants. That was the only other item. Do I have a mover and

2731
03:41:05,120 --> 03:41:10,160
second mover? Move by Councillor Plexus. Seconded by Councillor Hamilton. I'll call the

2732
03:41:10,160 --> 03:41:14,800
question. All those in favor. Opposed. Councillor Gill was opposed.

2733
03:41:14,800 --> 03:41:21,720
No. In favor. Okay, so the matter carries unanimously. And then we move to Council Committee

2734
03:41:21,720 --> 03:41:27,120
reports and minutes. This is the Cultural Resources Committee. If there are any questions, they

2735
03:41:27,120 --> 03:41:34,960
would be in order. Sorry? That was the grant. No, you voted. That's what I was checking

2736
03:41:34,960 --> 03:41:39,120
with you. So you were opposed. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for the record. Thank you. I thought

2737
03:41:39,120 --> 03:41:46,280
you were doing a little, I thought you just had a moment of reflection. Okay. The Council

2738
03:41:46,280 --> 03:41:52,400
meeting minutes. And in 13, we have three sets of minutes for approval. Do we have a mover

2739
03:41:52,400 --> 03:41:56,920
for those three sets? Councillor Plexus and seconded by Councillor Elias. There's

2740
03:41:56,920 --> 03:42:02,200
or omissions. Seeing none. I'll call the question. All those in favor? Opposed.

2741
03:42:02,200 --> 03:42:07,800
It's carried unanimously. Thank you. We move on to bylaws. The first bylaw is the one we just

2742
03:42:07,800 --> 03:42:13,200
did, which is the second reading of the OCP, moved by to the here Councillor Plexus or Councillor

2743
03:42:13,200 --> 03:42:18,960
Davies. Thank you. Councillor Davies. Moves in seconded by Councillor Hamilton.

2744
03:42:19,360 --> 03:42:25,960
All those in favor? Opposed. Care unanimously. And then along with that is section 477 of

2745
03:42:25,960 --> 03:42:34,400
the local government act regarding the financial impacts. Do I have a mover on that? Councillor

2746
03:42:34,400 --> 03:42:42,440
Elias. Seconded by Councillor Plexus. Any comments? All those in favor? Opposed? Matters.

2747
03:42:42,440 --> 03:42:48,160
Carried. Don't lose me now. Folks. Raise those hands. Now we move to the item that was

2748
03:42:48,160 --> 03:42:53,040
the subject of our first public hearing tonight. And I'm going to ask Councillors to handle

2749
03:42:53,040 --> 03:43:00,360
both the bait for item C and D together. And so I'll ask that we move item C and or don't move

2750
03:43:00,360 --> 03:43:05,120
it, but I'd like it to be put on the table. We can debate it. And my understanding from staff

2751
03:43:05,120 --> 03:43:12,600
is that when we get to 14D the language needs to be as amended. So for 14C the language we have

2752
03:43:12,600 --> 03:43:18,680
is fine. Is that correct? Because that's the OCP. So I'm not going to get Dr. Narene about

2753
03:43:18,680 --> 03:43:21,840
whether you're talking a zoning thing or a public hearing thing if you have something to

2754
03:43:21,840 --> 03:43:27,400
see about this. Let's talk about it in 14A. Vote consistently throughout. That's acceptable.

2755
03:43:27,400 --> 03:43:34,400
Do I have a mover for item 14C? I'll move it to put it on the table. And do we have a seconder?

2756
03:43:34,400 --> 03:43:42,480
I'll second it by Councillor Hamilton. I guess I'll first as the mover.

2757
03:43:43,360 --> 03:43:50,960
It's interesting how much time changes things because when the area there was first designated

2758
03:43:50,960 --> 03:43:56,880
as industrial, I was probably the most vocal person in all of the mission. It was one of the compelling

2759
03:43:56,880 --> 03:44:05,040
reasons why I got involved in civic life. Because that was farmland, wetland and agriculture

2760
03:44:05,040 --> 03:44:11,120
reserve land. For me the gate should never have probably been open to that being an industrial

2761
03:44:11,120 --> 03:44:17,840
park many years ago, but such as it is that decision has been made. And then it was subsequently

2762
03:44:17,840 --> 03:44:25,920
expanded by a subsequent council. And those lands have gradually filled with light and medium

2763
03:44:25,920 --> 03:44:32,960
industry as well as heavy industry. And as we heard this evening there are existing facilities

2764
03:44:32,960 --> 03:44:38,800
down there, including ones run by Summit, including a large loading facility and soil is moved

2765
03:44:38,800 --> 03:44:45,600
on and off that location, traveling down Renn Street and down Gil by different applicants.

2766
03:44:45,600 --> 03:44:50,400
And I think that's an important piece of history. I've toured the facility down there.

2767
03:44:51,440 --> 03:44:55,680
And I certainly understand the concerns people have raised about the environment,

2768
03:44:55,680 --> 03:45:00,080
but on the net of it, I am absolutely comfortable that.

2769
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:08,160
But this particular organization has the dedication to the environment to do it correctly, and it will

2770
03:45:08,160 --> 03:45:12,000
actually be a net benefit to our community environmentally.

2771
03:45:12,000 --> 03:45:16,080
Councillor Gill and I, through our time on the Fraser Valley Regional District, have heard a

2772
03:45:16,080 --> 03:45:20,720
lot about growing issue of illegal jumping, not just in mission, but in all kinds of

2773
03:45:20,720 --> 03:45:26,480
communities around the Fraser Valley. And it's a sorely needed asset, and you heard the

2774
03:45:26,480 --> 03:45:33,120
components talk about the cost of trucking, and, unfortunately, what has happened is that a lot

2775
03:45:33,120 --> 03:45:39,040
of folks are dumping things illegally in mission, and including historic farm on Chester Street

2776
03:45:39,040 --> 03:45:44,320
in Mission, and even the originally some of the land that is now in the Gil area, industrial

2777
03:45:44,320 --> 03:45:52,240
park off-kill. This is a much-needed thing, and I would much rather put it in the hands of a

2778
03:45:52,240 --> 03:45:56,400
well-known partner, and I should point out that some it does work with the city already,

2779
03:45:56,400 --> 03:46:03,600
the already operate facilities for us in our landfill, and I have never seen or heard anything other

2780
03:46:03,600 --> 03:46:10,960
than flattering or endorsing information about their practices.

2781
03:46:14,080 --> 03:46:19,920
The conversation regarding employment was a bit troubling to me this evening. People made light of

2782
03:46:19,920 --> 03:46:26,400
the idea that there were just 14 jobs, or you can throw a rock and find a job, but I think it's

2783
03:46:26,400 --> 03:46:33,360
important to note a couple of things. Economic development to me involves not just living wage jobs or

2784
03:46:33,360 --> 03:46:41,760
careers, and giving people an opportunity to move within an organization. That's that exists here,

2785
03:46:41,760 --> 03:46:48,400
and I think it's an important thing not to move past. 14 jobs that do that compared to 25 or 30 jobs

2786
03:46:48,400 --> 03:46:55,600
that pay a minimum wage living, not building our economy and not providing for families. The amount of

2787
03:46:55,600 --> 03:47:02,080
time people spend in their cars were on fuel, also as a factor in affordability, and so it weighed with

2788
03:47:02,080 --> 03:47:06,400
me to hear people talk about working and living in this area, whether they live in Mission or whether

2789
03:47:06,400 --> 03:47:11,520
they come to Mission and do business here. But the other part of it isn't we heard recently when we

2790
03:47:11,520 --> 03:47:19,360
heard two different analyses about our local industry. Mission is really logistics hub. We talked

2791
03:47:19,360 --> 03:47:24,560
about truck parking. We brought ocean trader here. An ocean trader has got parking for it. We had

2792
03:47:24,560 --> 03:47:32,880
pioneer trader here. We are trucking hub and to me it's a resonating thing. The idea that when you give

2793
03:47:32,880 --> 03:47:38,720
people a destination in your community to which these materials can be trucked both to and from

2794
03:47:39,280 --> 03:47:43,120
you're stimulating the trucking and logistics industry. You're stimulating the construction

2795
03:47:43,120 --> 03:47:50,320
image industry and you're taking trucks that would otherwise need to be extracting in state falls

2796
03:47:50,320 --> 03:47:59,200
and steelhead and having them utilize the material efficiently. For me it's more than 14 jobs. The 14 jobs

2797
03:47:59,200 --> 03:48:06,240
are important on their own rate, but for me it's more than 14 jobs and it definitely is an economic stimulus.

2798
03:48:09,680 --> 03:48:14,240
I also think it's absolutely accurate that a lot of the soil that we have in our community that

2799
03:48:14,240 --> 03:48:20,800
will ultimately need to be used for construction anywhere on the flat. So the waterfront is for example

2800
03:48:22,400 --> 03:48:28,720
is contaminated soil in areas. So where I live for example there's a mill site along the forest shore.

2801
03:48:29,360 --> 03:48:34,320
There are areas in the sub-nil forest shore that are all contaminated. There's areas along

2802
03:48:34,320 --> 03:48:40,640
hayward street that are contaminated and having a local solution keeps trucks from traveling further

2803
03:48:40,640 --> 03:48:46,000
and makes things affordable. I'd rather have been here. One of the things that somebody a few

2804
03:48:46,000 --> 03:48:52,400
folks said tonight is, is this what we want people to see when they come into mission? It's an interesting

2805
03:48:52,400 --> 03:48:58,000
question. First of all I think folks probably should appreciate the fact that these operations have been

2806
03:48:58,000 --> 03:49:04,080
working in this area for many years. And yet we haven't heard anything about it until there's been

2807
03:49:04,080 --> 03:49:09,600
a desire to expand, but the site has been effectively screened. The site has been effectively

2808
03:49:09,600 --> 03:49:18,720
pre-loaded and yes it is, a perfect example of what I think mission does well. If there's an opportunity

2809
03:49:18,720 --> 03:49:25,600
for this land to yield a higher and better use I know that that will happen. It's not like this building

2810
03:49:25,600 --> 03:49:33,920
this property is being covered with a development that doesn't have any other use or cannot be

2811
03:49:34,480 --> 03:49:39,920
added to. If there is a way to turn this into something else down the line that is a more profitable return

2812
03:49:39,920 --> 03:49:44,320
that has more jobs, I certainly will have it. That's the great thing about this. There's nothing here

2813
03:49:44,320 --> 03:49:52,320
that can't be removed or built upon easily. So at the end of the day for me, when I look at the business

2814
03:49:52,320 --> 03:49:58,240
case, this is an environmental win, an employment and economic development win. And in terms of the

2815
03:49:58,240 --> 03:50:04,320
conversation about trucks, noise, light, it actually reduces the amount of time that people will be on

2816
03:50:04,320 --> 03:50:10,960
civic roads. The thing that with hark into the most this evening is this is not the right location.

2817
03:50:11,680 --> 03:50:16,720
And I think about what happened when we talked about K-bar. And the same thing is having we talked about

2818
03:50:16,800 --> 03:50:23,440
gravel pits. Those are the worst locations because every single truck is driving past a residential

2819
03:50:23,440 --> 03:50:28,880
or through a residential neighborhood, driving past schools, daycare, community centers, leisure centers.

2820
03:50:30,240 --> 03:50:37,600
And driving on historic old roads here, we're using provincial infrastructure and we go down a road that

2821
03:50:37,600 --> 03:50:43,840
has an RCMP station in one commercial tenant for 150 meters. It'll actually reduce the amount

2822
03:50:44,480 --> 03:50:50,160
on the other side of the street. For me, I'm interested in us and I would be open to the idea if we

2823
03:50:50,160 --> 03:50:56,560
need a third reading report to have certain things entrenched, like ensuring that the TIA is completed

2824
03:50:56,560 --> 03:51:03,920
or ensuring that the wheel wash is a condition of this. The hours can be stipulated at that's an issue.

2825
03:51:04,720 --> 03:51:09,840
But from the servicing question was raised. But to me, I think staff are answering those questions

2826
03:51:09,840 --> 03:51:15,840
effectively along the way. Those can be conditions of adoption. And I am comfortable that this

2827
03:51:15,840 --> 03:51:23,840
achieves many of the aims that we have in our strategic plan as well as in our, as well as in our

2828
03:51:23,840 --> 03:51:29,840
economic plans along the way. Councilor Elias, I have you next and I've got councilor Harar,

2829
03:51:30,560 --> 03:51:38,240
I'm a councilor Hamilton. Thank you Mayor Horan. This is a really tough one. First off, I just want to say

2830
03:51:38,240 --> 03:51:46,080
that someone I understand and see you as a very reputable company and that's a very ethical company

2831
03:51:46,080 --> 03:51:55,040
in the community. And so the good work that you do, I do see that. And so, however, the role of council

2832
03:51:55,040 --> 03:52:00,480
is to look at land use. And this is definitely a huge land use decision that needs to be

2833
03:52:01,200 --> 03:52:06,800
decided on. And so when I knew that I was going to come up and sit here, I've had several conversations

2834
03:52:06,800 --> 03:52:10,640
with you. I've driven the site. I've gone down there. I've spoken to businesses. I've really

2835
03:52:10,640 --> 03:52:16,560
done my homework on this one. As well, I tried to not have anybody else because I actually live

2836
03:52:16,560 --> 03:52:22,080
right up on rent. And so when you want to talk about noise impact and you want to talk about dust

2837
03:52:22,080 --> 03:52:27,600
impact and all that stuff, absolutely, we hear everything. Absolutely everything. So I also look at the

2838
03:52:27,600 --> 03:52:34,960
community of rent and raven and all those apartments. And I see the impact and negative impact that

2839
03:52:35,040 --> 03:52:43,040
this facility could potentially have in the area. And that also weighs on me. And so, as well,

2840
03:52:43,040 --> 03:52:48,720
I look at all of our street and I look at the cars that are there. And I try to visualize a dump truck

2841
03:52:48,720 --> 03:52:55,120
going this way and a dump truck coming this way and it just doesn't work without it being congested,

2842
03:52:55,120 --> 03:53:03,840
without they're being some sort of safety things at risk. Now, the RCMP right now may say that they're

2843
03:53:03,920 --> 03:53:09,280
okay with it and then they get into it. And if we have the same effect that's happened to the

2844
03:53:09,280 --> 03:53:16,000
many businesses that I spoke to on Gail, aside from JBS and Lacey, they were very vocal. But there

2845
03:53:16,000 --> 03:53:22,480
was a lot that weren't vocal that also had a lot of concerns as well. And so I have to look at,

2846
03:53:22,480 --> 03:53:29,440
okay, what's going to be the best line use for that area? What you guys do is is amazing and is needed.

2847
03:53:29,600 --> 03:53:36,480
I just don't think it's in the right location. I feel that the safety measures that are in place

2848
03:53:36,480 --> 03:53:42,000
that are not in place is a huge deal. The truck, the increase of truck traffic, the increase of truck

2849
03:53:42,000 --> 03:53:47,520
traffic, yes it's easy because you're coming off of low heat going right down all over. But that whole

2850
03:53:47,520 --> 03:53:55,200
intersection there will be impacted and it's already congested intersection that doesn't have the

2851
03:53:55,280 --> 03:54:01,760
greatest signaling already. And I just feel that this is going to be an issue. I worry about

2852
03:54:01,760 --> 03:54:06,560
the emergency vehicles not being able to get out for proper access because of the trucks coming and

2853
03:54:06,560 --> 03:54:15,280
going what that may look like. I also, you know, I appreciate your your your staff and

2854
03:54:15,280 --> 03:54:20,640
everybody that spoke in favor of this, but you know, there is bias there. Some of them a lot of them work

2855
03:54:20,720 --> 03:54:27,360
for you guys and they don't actually live in the community. And when you work and live in the

2856
03:54:27,360 --> 03:54:32,800
community, yes, there's great benefit to it. But when you're actually living in this community and

2857
03:54:32,800 --> 03:54:40,000
and something like this comes and really negatively affects you, it's bad for your mental health.

2858
03:54:40,000 --> 03:54:47,040
I mean, it's just, it's just bad. I look at the industries that are thriving in our community

2859
03:54:47,120 --> 03:54:52,880
and I look at the opportunities of what industry could be there. And I just don't feel that this

2860
03:54:52,880 --> 03:54:59,760
is it. And that's why I henceed I asked if there was other locations that this could be looked at.

2861
03:54:59,760 --> 03:55:05,840
Because I think the concept of what you're trying to do is very, very valuable. And I think it's

2862
03:55:05,840 --> 03:55:11,600
extremely important to do because you're right. There is a lot of illegal dumping of contaminated soil

2863
03:55:11,680 --> 03:55:18,240
and it has been an issue, especially in Deroche. So I understand that. But now I'm faced with the

2864
03:55:18,240 --> 03:55:24,880
decision for a land use. What is going to be the best decision for land use? And we can argue all

2865
03:55:24,880 --> 03:55:33,440
day long that this was put in for industry and industrial and what's what's good industry and what's

2866
03:55:33,440 --> 03:55:40,800
bad industry. We can have lots of debate about this. But at the end of the day, I really do, I do have

2867
03:55:40,800 --> 03:55:48,640
huge concerns in regards to the whole operation and the impact to the community. Then I think about,

2868
03:55:48,640 --> 03:55:54,960
well, what happens if we say, let's put this by the landfill? What impact is going to have on our roads

2869
03:55:54,960 --> 03:56:00,960
for all those trucks going up and down? So it's really, honestly, there's no right around answer here.

2870
03:56:01,760 --> 03:56:08,160
There's going to be impact wherever it is. But I just feel that this, this, this parcel of land is not

2871
03:56:08,160 --> 03:56:14,960
the correct parcel of land. And so because of the negative impacts are outwing the positive outcomes.

2872
03:56:14,960 --> 03:56:20,240
Unfortunately, I can't support this application. Thank you. Right now, my speaker's list is

2873
03:56:20,240 --> 03:56:29,840
Councillor Hamilton, Harar Plexus, Councillor Gillen, Councillor Davies, do you wish to speak?

2874
03:56:29,840 --> 03:56:40,480
Well, I'm just asking whether you wish to speak after Councillor Plexus.

2875
03:56:42,160 --> 03:56:48,480
So, and even Councillor Hamilton. Yeah, thank you, Mayor Haran. So I did listen intently to the feedback

2876
03:56:48,480 --> 03:56:56,000
both for and against this product, this opportunity. And the company has assured us that they have,

2877
03:56:56,000 --> 03:57:02,560
they will mitigate the dust, the noise, the light pollution, et cetera. So, until we actually see it

2878
03:57:02,560 --> 03:57:09,040
in full operation, we don't know what those risks are going to be. And so I have one question about the trucks.

2879
03:57:09,040 --> 03:57:15,280
Are they tandem or single trucks? I'm unfortunately not able to ask any more of questions of the applicant,

2880
03:57:15,280 --> 03:57:21,920
but staff may have further information. Unfortunately, we can't receive any more information from the applicant.

2881
03:57:22,080 --> 03:57:27,760
The staff have an answer to that question. Ms. Paypal. Ms. Ms. Tum.

2882
03:57:29,760 --> 03:57:36,080
Be a mix. We'll be a mix, okay, thank you. So, and you know, we've always, we've always said when we've

2883
03:57:36,080 --> 03:57:42,320
done our strategic plan about expanding our industrial base for the tax, take some of the tax load off

2884
03:57:42,320 --> 03:57:49,520
the residential tax base so that we'll do help with that. And I'm, you know, what I'm willing to

2885
03:57:49,520 --> 03:57:54,160
give the company the opportunity. And I wonder if we can build in there somewhere that we have a report

2886
03:57:54,160 --> 03:58:00,880
back in, you know, six months or a year of time to see how the operations is going if it is passed.

2887
03:58:00,880 --> 03:58:06,640
Okay, thank you. I think, depending on how things go through, there is a potential and I'll turn to staff

2888
03:58:06,640 --> 03:58:12,160
on this to ask for conditions of adoption, and that may be one of them. Counts are her are.

2889
03:58:13,040 --> 03:58:21,680
Thank you, Mayor Horde. Yeah, what's been a long evening. So, when this application first came before

2890
03:58:21,680 --> 03:58:27,920
us last August, I initially voted against the proposal. When it returned in November with additional

2891
03:58:27,920 --> 03:58:34,160
information, I supported moving it forward to a public hearing. So, we can hear directly from the community.

2892
03:58:34,960 --> 03:58:40,640
After weighing the feedback here tonight and considering the pros and cons, the one consistent theme

2893
03:58:40,720 --> 03:58:44,720
in the correspondents is a location in the traffic flow onto all of our street, where our

2894
03:58:44,720 --> 03:58:51,760
SIMP situation is located. That was my initial concern when I voted against it in August and I've

2895
03:58:51,760 --> 03:58:57,120
come to the same conclusion again. I will not be respectfully supporting this application due to those

2896
03:58:57,120 --> 03:59:03,680
same reasons amongst other things like environmental impacts. And attachment A, it states the traffic

2897
03:59:03,680 --> 03:59:08,160
from the Silverdale Industrial Park on Gill Avenue will be redirected through all of our street

2898
03:59:08,240 --> 03:59:16,000
to the new facility. The question remains is whether this is included in the estimated 100 truck truck

2899
03:59:16,000 --> 03:59:23,120
100 100 trucks per day or if this represents additional truck movements on top of that number.

2900
03:59:24,160 --> 03:59:29,360
Without a traffic assessment, impact assessment, I and I understand that it will be coming later

2901
03:59:30,080 --> 03:59:35,680
when this application was forward. It is difficult to determine the full impact. There are many positive

2902
03:59:35,760 --> 03:59:40,800
aspects to this proposal and I recognize the value it brings. However, with a current location

2903
03:59:40,800 --> 03:59:46,800
and access constraints, there are simply more variables that could go wrong. I worry about the level of

2904
03:59:46,800 --> 03:59:51,360
risk, particularly when it comes to traffic flow, emergency access and overall public safety.

2905
03:59:52,880 --> 03:59:58,880
I know the RCP, RCP raised similar concerns about this proposed location and the potential traffic flow.

2906
03:59:58,880 --> 04:00:08,880
I share those concerns.

2907
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:05,720
We're checking to give you the narrow road access with street parking. We need to be cautious and mindful about

2908
04:00:05,720 --> 04:00:11,520
creating any roadblocks when it comes to public safety and access for first responders.

2909
04:00:11,520 --> 04:00:19,240
Excuse me. As report indicates, these facilities are needed. And there's a shortage across the province,

2910
04:00:19,240 --> 04:00:25,000
however, in my final analysis. This is a good project in the wrong location. Thank you.

2911
04:00:25,000 --> 04:00:27,000
Thank you. Councillor Plexus.

2912
04:00:27,520 --> 04:00:31,640
Okay. Thank you. Yeah. I do appreciate everybody's spoken.

2913
04:00:31,640 --> 04:00:38,400
I realized the first part of this thing is to look into the redess evasion for commercial

2914
04:00:38,400 --> 04:00:45,000
to industrial. And I was a bit challenged by that. In light of the fact that we were just recently

2915
04:00:45,000 --> 04:00:49,920
and we had staff come to us. The guys give us an important update on our low heat highway

2916
04:00:49,920 --> 04:00:54,840
corridor and neighborhood planning process. And as I thought through that exercise, I began to

2917
04:00:54,840 --> 04:01:00,720
realize that we talked at one point at looking at anything that might be light clean

2918
04:01:00,720 --> 04:01:06,520
industry along that corridor, as well as new development mission, simply because we were trying

2919
04:01:06,520 --> 04:01:12,440
to be green as possible. So I was challenged in that one aspect. But I do want to say and going

2920
04:01:12,440 --> 04:01:18,480
over all the comments received by all of the people tonight. I think there's over 30 people

2921
04:01:18,480 --> 04:01:24,640
spoke tonight. Was that the people that spoke for and most of them were associated with

2922
04:01:24,640 --> 04:01:31,920
the company involved. They were very dedicated to the work they do. And they gave great testimonials

2923
04:01:31,920 --> 04:01:37,280
about the project. And obviously it was indicated that the work is needed in this community.

2924
04:01:37,280 --> 04:01:44,480
So cleaning needs to be done. There simply is a lot of sole contaminants. And as we developed

2925
04:01:44,480 --> 04:01:51,040
the community, there's going to be a greater need for it. I don't know that the problem

2926
04:01:51,040 --> 04:01:54,720
that I struggled with when I looked at this was, I wasn't looking at my notes here, but there was,

2927
04:01:54,720 --> 04:02:03,360
yeah, those that spoke for and I want to speak to that first, was they spoke about their past history

2928
04:02:03,360 --> 04:02:07,360
work with the Ministry of Environment and the approval process and they had a good relationship with

2929
04:02:07,360 --> 04:02:12,400
the Ministry of Environment. They indicated it was an ideal location to them. It made a lot of sense

2930
04:02:12,400 --> 04:02:17,680
to show distance from Oliver from the location to rate to the low heat. I was a high recorder

2931
04:02:17,680 --> 04:02:22,960
or four lanes. It could simply move the trucks that a lot quicker and not having to go through residential

2932
04:02:22,960 --> 04:02:30,240
streets. Those kind of things are important. I is indicated by the employer through his people,

2933
04:02:30,240 --> 04:02:36,720
but they're responsible employer in dealing with the environmental issues. I guess when I listen to

2934
04:02:36,720 --> 04:02:41,760
all of the people that spoke oppose to it. And obviously one of the things that stuck out of course

2935
04:02:41,760 --> 04:02:48,080
was location being proximity to the downtown or not we call our urban core. And we look at the

2936
04:02:48,080 --> 04:02:54,880
future, urban core is going to develop out even more with the development of the West, the Silverdale

2937
04:02:55,680 --> 04:03:01,680
Highlands there, when polygons get started, there will be a lot more development on the corridor. Mostly

2938
04:03:01,680 --> 04:03:07,680
will be either residential, retail, or commercial, and that will create an increase in traffic flow

2939
04:03:08,480 --> 04:03:13,840
concerning because I think that one looks at that kind of thing and says to themselves,

2940
04:03:13,840 --> 04:03:19,040
you know, is that kind of truck traffic you want in your urban core? The frequency, the truck traffic,

2941
04:03:19,040 --> 04:03:26,480
that number trucks traveling along the highway in the proximity of highly trafficked residents of

2942
04:03:26,480 --> 04:03:31,280
core where a lot of people are using the low heat corridor to get to the grocery stores to get to

2943
04:03:31,280 --> 04:03:36,080
onto the bridge and that. A lot more traffic right now is the seat of all the connectors quite busy we all

2944
04:03:36,080 --> 04:03:45,440
know. So those are some of the challenge I was challenged by. I was mostly challenged, you know,

2945
04:03:45,440 --> 04:03:49,840
listening to the issue I understand the environment and I understand that I read through the

2946
04:03:49,840 --> 04:03:54,400
article times and I thought, yeah, maybe they'll make this work, I'm sure they've done it in the past,

2947
04:03:54,400 --> 04:03:59,600
they're working with the ministry and the city is going to work with it until they get those final approval

2948
04:03:59,600 --> 04:04:05,840
processes. And certainly have indicated, one of the questions I had was the trucks leaving the site

2949
04:04:06,160 --> 04:04:10,400
by the RCMP station, would they be able to have enough space and time to get to the low heat

2950
04:04:10,400 --> 04:04:17,200
highway corridor? I guess there's two things or three things that bother me. Number one is that this is

2951
04:04:17,200 --> 04:04:22,480
in an urban core environment and it doesn't really belong here. Number one, it doesn't belong right next to

2952
04:04:22,480 --> 04:04:30,800
your growthing, both residential and retail. It just seems like a great need in our community. I would

2953
04:04:30,880 --> 04:04:35,680
like to see it's finding another location, but that's not probable right now. And as mentioned

2954
04:04:35,680 --> 04:04:41,440
by a couple of people, why isn't it in an exhaust gravel pit or up down by the dump site as possibilities,

2955
04:04:41,440 --> 04:04:49,120
but indicated again by members, the team from the company was that it would attract the travel

2956
04:04:49,120 --> 04:04:53,840
greater distance. But the one thing that stuck out to me and what's really concerned to me and it's nothing

2957
04:04:53,840 --> 04:05:00,400
to do with this particular company is the safety of trucks on the road. Recently, last week there was an

2958
04:05:00,400 --> 04:05:07,440
article in the Vancouver Sun. They did an article and it indicated that at 54% I think 54% of

2959
04:05:07,440 --> 04:05:13,840
the trucks on the road are unsafe. Most of them are dump trucks. Even a lot of that is because the company

2960
04:05:13,840 --> 04:05:18,640
people, the people who drive no trucks are not taken the right step to protect their vehicles to make

2961
04:05:18,640 --> 04:05:23,200
sure the safety of the residents on the street. I cringe when I go down 16th Avenue, Louis,

2962
04:05:23,200 --> 04:05:29,200
highway, the freeway with truck traffic, double tandem dump trucks. Simply you know, it's like

2963
04:05:29,200 --> 04:05:34,160
playing Russian with live. I'm sorry to say that, but that is concerned to me. And I really think that

2964
04:05:34,160 --> 04:05:39,680
you have that volume of trucks in that congested area. There's more than likely this can be a challenge,

2965
04:05:39,680 --> 04:05:45,520
not do the fault of yours, but simply because truck traffic isn't really safe. And if we can avoid it in

2966
04:05:45,520 --> 04:05:50,880
an urban car, we should do it all cost. You know, there are signs that say you mustn't use your brakes and all

2967
04:05:50,880 --> 04:05:55,920
kind of thing, but I'm really challenged by that. I understand, I hear a good company, but this isn't

2968
04:05:55,920 --> 04:06:01,840
the best location for something like this. Council, thank you, Councillor Plexus, Councillor Davies.

2969
04:06:05,360 --> 04:06:11,920
Thank you, thank you to all the residents that came out tonight, both for and against and to the applicant

2970
04:06:11,920 --> 04:06:19,440
for bringing this proposal. You know, I don't think there's any real argument that we don't need

2971
04:06:19,440 --> 04:06:29,600
a facility like this in mission. The ability to remediate, you know, contaminated at soil is

2972
04:06:29,600 --> 04:06:34,880
simply a must have, and it's not just mission that needs it, but probably a lot more community as well.

2973
04:06:36,080 --> 04:06:40,560
But I'm not convinced that people who are legally dumping today are going to change the behavior,

2974
04:06:40,560 --> 04:06:46,000
because there's now a pay option for them to use. We see that at the landfill all the time where,

2975
04:06:46,000 --> 04:06:50,480
you know, it's relatively cheap to dump, and those still find ways to put it in a dish somewhere.

2976
04:06:52,000 --> 04:06:57,200
Some of what Council was told tonight, especially with regards to the environmental portion and the

2977
04:06:57,200 --> 04:07:04,800
invasive 4,000 meters of brush removal. According to the report, it wasn't really corporate benefit,

2978
04:07:04,800 --> 04:07:11,040
but a compensation plan from the Ministry of Forests, because of a aquatic habitat loss, and that's

2979
04:07:11,040 --> 04:07:19,200
indicated on page 27 of our package. That part is concerning to me. I did not hear today a guarantee

2980
04:07:19,200 --> 04:07:25,840
about how traffic and conditions along the yellow-animal cavity will be managed and improved,

2981
04:07:25,840 --> 04:07:33,680
and I would really need to be able to understand that and to really have comfort in that level.

2982
04:07:33,680 --> 04:07:39,520
The report states it's up to 14 jobs, but not a minimum level of jobs, which is another

2983
04:07:39,920 --> 04:07:46,080
concerning metric for me. I don't see a proper delineation between RCMP and truck traffic.

2984
04:07:46,080 --> 04:07:52,480
I think that needs to be there in a road plan that says, in the event of emergency, RCMP has guaranteed

2985
04:07:52,480 --> 04:07:58,800
access out regardless of whether there's 0, 1, or 50 in trucks that happen to be in a lineup at that point in time.

2986
04:08:00,000 --> 04:08:06,080
I feel the applicant needs to learn to communicate better with their neighbors and the overall neighborhood.

2987
04:08:06,080 --> 04:08:10,800
I was really concerned that, here we are with a relatively small industrial park,

2988
04:08:11,360 --> 04:08:16,800
that there just wasn't a level of support for other companies that are also in industry.

2989
04:08:18,080 --> 04:08:23,680
The public says over and over that industry should be on the low heat, and I do agree with it.

2990
04:08:26,160 --> 04:08:32,080
Calling at the core of the city is not necessarily the right term, because as we encounter,

2991
04:08:32,080 --> 04:08:39,600
so no, and enough, no master plans indicate that this city is going to grow a lot over the next 40 years,

2992
04:08:39,600 --> 04:08:45,200
and what people see as the core today is going to change over the next 40 years.

2993
04:08:45,920 --> 04:08:51,040
Truck safety on guilt, absolutely needs to be better. It's not a safe road. I spent enough time

2994
04:08:51,040 --> 04:08:58,160
on watching the dump trucks, tandem trucks going past, to realize it's not sufficient for your business's needs.

2995
04:08:58,320 --> 04:09:05,680
With the parking that's on both sides, it is a very compressed spot. It's a single lane road

2996
04:09:05,680 --> 04:09:12,800
with a tandem dump truck going by. The trees and foliage next to the business are being heavily impacted by

2997
04:09:12,800 --> 04:09:21,200
the business by these trucks going past, and it would be significantly better for this project if it could have

2998
04:09:21,200 --> 04:09:26,800
been accessed directly off of the highway itself. There was a few things as well in this application,

2999
04:09:26,800 --> 04:09:33,360
that really stuck out to me. Things that really should have mattered. Sound, noise, light, all measurable

3000
04:09:33,360 --> 04:09:41,120
aspects. If there's the chance that, you know, and we had some people from Ren and Raven tonight,

3001
04:09:41,120 --> 04:09:47,040
that were concerned. If they could have been told that we did noise measurements, and we know that at

3002
04:09:47,040 --> 04:09:53,360
this location, you cannot hear us. You cannot see us. That would have been a great aspect and a great

3003
04:09:53,360 --> 04:09:59,680
part of this report to come forward. For example, what's the impact of dust and soil on the RCMP

3004
04:09:59,680 --> 04:10:07,440
helipad there? I don't know. It's things that really need to be considered. It's a great project. I'm not sure

3005
04:10:07,440 --> 04:10:13,200
if it's in the right spot, like the rest of Council, but I don't think I'm ready to support it. I'm not saying

3006
04:10:13,200 --> 04:10:22,320
nope, but I can't move forward. Just for clarification from staff, there isn't really, I guess the

3007
04:10:22,320 --> 04:10:28,160
position of not ready to go forward could be a third reading report as an alternative. Is that correct?

3008
04:10:28,720 --> 04:10:37,600
So, procedurally, the remotion on the floor right now is for a third reading. If it fails, then a motion

3009
04:10:37,600 --> 04:10:43,200
could be made for a third reading report. Is that correct? Or a person could articulate that they want

3010
04:10:43,200 --> 04:10:49,040
a third reading report and the motion could be withdrawn by me, which I'd be able to, I'd be happy to

3011
04:10:49,040 --> 04:10:57,680
do this. To defer to the third reading, pending a third reading report. So, I'll check back with your

3012
04:10:57,680 --> 04:11:03,840
council or in terms of whether you want to do that procedurally or anybody else does? Councilor Gil?

3013
04:11:04,640 --> 04:11:11,520
Thank you, Mayor Horan. I do want to say, and once again, thank you to everyone that has participated in this

3014
04:11:12,480 --> 04:11:19,440
and thank you to my colleagues. I've enjoyed the discussion and I think as the ownership and management

3015
04:11:19,440 --> 04:11:23,680
of Summit, you know, sitting in front of us, I think one thing is you should definitely be proud of

3016
04:11:23,760 --> 04:11:29,840
your guys' staff. As a business owner, you know, to have that many members of your staff speak such highly

3017
04:11:29,840 --> 04:11:35,680
of you. You know, that's very, you know, my hands are up to you guys and credit goes to you guys.

3018
04:11:37,200 --> 04:11:42,880
I understand the desire to expand industrial activity and, you know, being at the table at the phrase of

3019
04:11:42,960 --> 04:11:48,960
a regional district. This is something we hear all the time about is about dumping and, you know,

3020
04:11:48,960 --> 04:11:56,000
how properties are being purchased in the ALR and being used as dump sites. But I think just listening to

3021
04:11:56,000 --> 04:12:01,360
my colleagues and even for colleagues up here, you know, that it was, you know, concerns of it.

3022
04:12:02,640 --> 04:12:09,280
I think the common theme is the wrong approach. I think we've received over the weekend a number of

3023
04:12:09,280 --> 04:12:17,440
emails and concerns and some of you can share directly with the management, but I think the common

3024
04:12:17,440 --> 04:12:22,800
theme is all the business owners are saying how this is going to impact their businesses and how it's

3025
04:12:22,800 --> 04:12:30,000
going to impact the neighboring businesses. And my concern is by approving or moving forward with this,

3026
04:12:30,000 --> 04:12:36,000
it's going to send the wrong message to those businesses. We want to see business grow, but we also

3027
04:12:36,000 --> 04:12:42,400
got to protect the existing business that we have in that area. You know, I know one comment has made is

3028
04:12:42,400 --> 04:12:48,000
this is the long, long, long location. I'm not sure if I really buy that because, you know, where a gravel

3029
04:12:48,000 --> 04:12:55,440
sits site sit is up in steelhead or up in state falls and I don't want to see that kind of heavy industrial

3030
04:12:55,440 --> 04:13:02,160
activity up there rolling past that many schools own that many residential zones. But I think what, you know,

3031
04:13:02,160 --> 04:13:11,680
I would say to, I guess, the company is really go back and work with the neighborhood and really show

3032
04:13:11,680 --> 04:13:17,840
case that you guys can be good neighbors. Because I don't blame them for coming out in raising concerns.

3033
04:13:17,840 --> 04:13:23,520
I know some of the emails we got were just some of the by-law infractions or concerns about,

3034
04:13:23,520 --> 04:13:30,320
you know, the by-law is being broken and, you know, it's to ask council to expand on the sites and

3035
04:13:30,320 --> 04:13:36,560
still have so much opposition from the neighborhood is, you know, is very concerning and I think

3036
04:13:36,560 --> 04:13:42,240
are proving this or are sending this further would just send the wrong message. Thank you. So we have a couple

3037
04:13:42,240 --> 04:13:46,640
of options. I'll turn to council for Davies and anybody else can say this if they wish to. We're going

3038
04:13:46,640 --> 04:13:53,600
to move forward with the moved and seconded motion, which is for third reading or we can defer to pending

3039
04:13:53,600 --> 04:13:59,520
a third reading report, which might include completion of the TIA, clarification of the operating

3040
04:13:59,520 --> 04:14:05,040
hours, servicing requirements, requirement of the wheel watch. These are just notes I took during the

3041
04:14:05,040 --> 04:14:12,160
time. Evidence of the RCMP agreement and councilor Gillie wanted to evidence of neighbor to neighbor

3042
04:14:12,720 --> 04:14:18,400
mediation. So councilor Davies do you want to move a deferral on those bases or would you like to just

3043
04:14:18,400 --> 04:14:23,440
deal with this evening, what's your preference? I would move a motion to defer it.

3044
04:14:24,400 --> 04:14:32,560
One of the conversations I had, the comment was we don't want to kill it, but we can't grow it in

3045
04:14:32,560 --> 04:14:39,280
the way it is right now. So I will move to defer it with the seconded deferral. I'll just say that I think

3046
04:14:39,280 --> 04:14:44,560
one of the things that is repeatedly coming up and I would ask that it be part of the TIA if the motion

3047
04:14:44,560 --> 04:14:50,800
to defer goes forward is this conversation about trucks being limited downtown and on the downtown

3048
04:14:50,800 --> 04:14:57,280
core. I'm not convinced that this does anything if it's defeated, to decrease trucks on the downtown

3049
04:14:57,280 --> 04:15:00,800
core. The truck is going from, do we?

3050
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:24,000
So, for me, I'm supportive of the idea that if we need to have the answers to these questions, again, they were, and others may have others to add, completion of the TIA, including the question I've had regarding impact on the roads.

3051
04:15:24,000 --> 04:15:34,000
I was of operation, servicing, specifically the pipes and any construction needed.

3052
04:15:34,000 --> 04:15:48,000
We'll wash. I did have a question regarding a herd of questions from Councilor Elias regarding the width of the road on Oliver, whether it was an issue there. I actually, I think that road is fairly wide, but it'd be good to have an answer.

3053
04:15:48,000 --> 04:15:54,000
And what the RCMP is agreed to. I also support it with those things Councilor Elias.

3054
04:15:54,000 --> 04:16:08,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn. So, here's my thing. So, we're going to ask them to do all of this and spend all this money, but it's still a poor location and still in the bath and a bath spot.

3055
04:16:08,000 --> 04:16:23,000
My decision of the business of itself, I think is viable and needed is just the location. I cannot support any application that's going to come through with that location of this type of business.

3056
04:16:23,000 --> 04:16:31,000
And so, I worry about this deferral of costing the business owners a whole bunch of money, and this has happened before.

3057
04:16:31,000 --> 04:16:39,000
And then they come back to Council and they've spent a ton of money on studies and everything else, and we've still turned it down.

3058
04:16:39,000 --> 04:16:48,000
So, let's not waste anybody's time here or money, and if it's the location that is the issue, they make the decision based on the land use for the location.

3059
04:16:48,000 --> 04:16:57,000
Yeah, and I think that's the question we want to make sure if you're voting in favor of a third reading report that it has a meaningful opportunity to affect your decision.

3060
04:16:57,000 --> 04:17:06,000
I think the questions being asked here do involve things related to that location, such as whether traffic is going to be as impacted, what are the things that we can do.

3061
04:17:06,000 --> 04:17:13,000
So, but I would agree that if I think the thing takes care of itself, if you know where you are right now, then you don't vote in favor of deferral.

3062
04:17:13,000 --> 04:17:22,000
If you haven't made up your mind and you believe that more information could influence you to make a more false and discussion, our decision should say.

3063
04:17:22,000 --> 04:17:25,000
I would hope you would vote in favor of it, but I agree.

3064
04:17:25,000 --> 04:17:30,000
Councillor Dave, Gilles, I should say, do you have anything to say?

3065
04:17:30,000 --> 04:17:33,000
Thank you, Mayor Horan. I guess my comment is just deferrals.

3066
04:17:33,000 --> 04:17:43,000
I'd rather just make a decision and I know even if an application dies, the applicant can bring it back after a year or a year or so.

3067
04:17:43,000 --> 04:17:55,000
That accurate in this circumstance and also the second question that happens that if the OCP amendment doesn't pass, then the zoning doesn't proceed either because you need the first the OCP right.

3068
04:17:55,000 --> 04:17:58,000
Anybody else wish to comment on the deferral.

3069
04:17:58,000 --> 04:18:03,000
Okay, so the deferral and if the deferral is defeated, then we vote on the original motion.

3070
04:18:03,000 --> 04:18:09,000
So, if this is just on the deferral with those conditions to let me back in third reading report, Councillor Davies.

3071
04:18:09,000 --> 04:18:21,000
Then when we put a timeline on this deferral, is this staff, what's the reasonable timeline to get that information?

3072
04:18:21,000 --> 04:18:28,000
I think it would depend on what the list of things that were directed to report back on, how long it would take.

3073
04:18:28,000 --> 04:18:41,000
I'll go to the list again. First of it was completion of the TIA, which I understood there was some question, but whether it was completed, including how defeating this would impact.

3074
04:18:41,000 --> 04:18:46,000
Truck traffic, in other words, what a different location of less hours of operation.

3075
04:18:47,000 --> 04:18:49,000
Serviceing needs.

3076
04:18:49,000 --> 04:18:55,000
Like for example, the question on the servicing needs is to verify who pays when is that servicing needed.

3077
04:18:55,000 --> 04:19:02,000
The wheel wash to guarantee that it would be there and the agreement with the RCMP in terms of the questions around backing up and so forth.

3078
04:19:02,000 --> 04:19:07,000
I think things like the cross hatching of the road there and so forth, we've been part of that.

3079
04:19:07,000 --> 04:19:09,000
I don't think it captures all of it.

3080
04:19:09,000 --> 04:19:11,000
And Councillor Gill had mentioned the neighbor to neighbor portion.

3081
04:19:11,000 --> 04:19:14,000
That's going to take time.

3082
04:19:14,000 --> 04:19:18,000
It's going to take time to have conversation with neighbors and say, how can we make things better?

3083
04:19:18,000 --> 04:19:20,000
I'm not sure how we do that right.

3084
04:19:20,000 --> 04:19:24,000
Frankly, in a reasonable period of time, as well as things are measurements.

3085
04:19:24,000 --> 04:19:27,000
If you're going to reduce the traffic on Gill Avenue, how much?

3086
04:19:27,000 --> 04:19:31,000
That's a number that should have been here today, and it didn't come here today.

3087
04:19:31,000 --> 04:19:36,000
I think it's part of the TIA question. Well, I think what I would say to that Councillor Gill, our Councillor Davies, I'm sorry,

3088
04:19:36,000 --> 04:19:44,000
is anything less than a year is faster than what the applicant would experience otherwise.

3089
04:19:44,000 --> 04:19:49,000
So I don't know if we need to put a timeline on it and to Councillor Elias,

3090
04:19:49,000 --> 04:19:56,000
if the applicant feels there's not much value in doing this, then they can simply hold it in advance or not proceed.

3091
04:19:56,000 --> 04:19:58,000
So that's the other thing I would point out.

3092
04:19:58,000 --> 04:20:01,000
They've been able to hear the conversation.

3093
04:20:02,000 --> 04:20:06,000
So the deferral is the item on the table, and I'll call the question on that.

3094
04:20:06,000 --> 04:20:11,000
We'll see what happens if there's a fall on both on the other original motion.

3095
04:20:11,000 --> 04:20:13,000
All those in favor of deferral.

3096
04:20:13,000 --> 04:20:14,000
Opposed.

3097
04:20:14,000 --> 04:20:16,000
The matter is defeated.

3098
04:20:16,000 --> 04:20:21,000
On the original motion for third reading, all those in favor.

3099
04:20:21,000 --> 04:20:22,000
Opposed.

3100
04:20:22,000 --> 04:20:29,000
The matter is defeated by a potentified two with Councillor Hamilton and myself in support.

3101
04:20:29,000 --> 04:20:39,000
And so that brings us to, we do not deal with item 14D because that was the zoning amending.

3102
04:20:39,000 --> 04:20:44,000
And we've become to 14E, which is the zoning amending by law.

3103
04:20:44,000 --> 04:20:48,000
6422, 2026, 5949, 2004.

3104
04:20:48,000 --> 04:20:53,000
For third reading for the shared, common indoor space to have a mover for that one.

3105
04:20:53,000 --> 04:20:56,000
Councillor Elias, seconded by Councillor Davies.

3106
04:20:56,000 --> 04:20:58,000
Any comments or questions?

3107
04:20:58,000 --> 04:20:59,000
Seeing none.

3108
04:20:59,000 --> 04:21:00,000
All those in favor?

3109
04:21:00,000 --> 04:21:01,000
Opposed.

3110
04:21:01,000 --> 04:21:03,000
It's carried unanimously.

3111
04:21:03,000 --> 04:21:07,000
Next is the adoption of the zoning amending by law regarding the permitted use of adulter

3112
04:21:07,000 --> 04:21:10,000
entertainment establishments, moved by Councillor Davies.

3113
04:21:10,000 --> 04:21:13,000
Seconded by Councillor Hamilton did I see?

3114
04:21:13,000 --> 04:21:14,000
Any comments?

3115
04:21:14,000 --> 04:21:16,000
There's no comments in adoption.

3116
04:21:16,000 --> 04:21:17,000
All those in favor?

3117
04:21:17,000 --> 04:21:18,000
Opposed?

3118
04:21:18,000 --> 04:21:20,000
It's carried unanimously.

3119
04:21:20,000 --> 04:21:21,000
Thank you.

3120
04:21:21,000 --> 04:21:25,000
And then fire prevention amending by law.

3121
04:21:25,000 --> 04:21:31,000
For this is the risk-based that we had a few weeks ago.

3122
04:21:31,000 --> 04:21:32,000
Is that correct?

3123
04:21:32,000 --> 04:21:33,000
Mr. Unie?

3124
04:21:33,000 --> 04:21:35,000
This is the risk-based assessment.

3125
04:21:35,000 --> 04:21:37,000
Now, move her please for adoption.

3126
04:21:37,000 --> 04:21:41,000
Councillor Davies, seconded by Councillor Gill.

3127
04:21:41,000 --> 04:21:43,000
All those in favor?

3128
04:21:43,000 --> 04:21:44,000
Opposed?

3129
04:21:44,000 --> 04:21:46,000
It's carried unanimously.

3130
04:21:46,000 --> 04:21:47,000
That ends our bylaws.

3131
04:21:47,000 --> 04:21:54,000
We have correspondence just here following a meeting I had with just one from the National Police Federation.

3132
04:21:54,000 --> 04:21:59,000
As a product of that meeting, I asked him to co-late some of the information and send it to Council.

3133
04:21:59,000 --> 04:22:01,000
So that's what you have here.

3134
04:22:01,000 --> 04:22:05,000
I have no comments on it, but if others wish to, they can.

3135
04:22:05,000 --> 04:22:09,000
Seeing none, we have Council member updates.

3136
04:22:09,000 --> 04:22:12,000
I will go through and ask you if you wish to give one.

3137
04:22:12,000 --> 04:22:16,000
I realize it's been a long night, but I have Councillor Hurard to start us off.

3138
04:22:16,000 --> 04:22:17,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

3139
04:22:17,000 --> 04:22:19,000
I just have one update.

3140
04:22:19,000 --> 04:22:27,000
I've got a chance to give opening remarks to the Firesmart event at Gordon Creek there a week and a half ago, and it was well attended.

3141
04:22:27,000 --> 04:22:34,000
There's what's 60 or 70 people from all over mainland helping out with wildlife wildlife.

3142
04:22:34,000 --> 04:22:35,000
Yeah.

3143
04:22:35,000 --> 04:22:36,000
Thank you very much.

3144
04:22:36,000 --> 04:22:38,000
Councillor Davies, anything to report?

3145
04:22:38,000 --> 04:22:40,000
I think we had the groundbreaking event at Mission Secondary School.

3146
04:22:40,000 --> 04:22:42,000
That was really exciting.

3147
04:22:42,000 --> 04:22:44,000
Congratulations to the community.

3148
04:22:44,000 --> 04:22:45,000
Thank you.

3149
04:22:45,000 --> 04:22:46,000
Councillor Plexus?

3150
04:22:46,000 --> 04:22:47,000
I'll just highlight a couple things.

3151
04:22:47,000 --> 04:22:49,000
I attended the food support.

3152
04:22:49,000 --> 04:22:51,000
It's symposium and Mission Secondary.

3153
04:22:51,000 --> 04:22:52,000
It's important.

3154
04:22:52,000 --> 04:22:54,000
It's a well organized event.

3155
04:22:54,000 --> 04:22:58,000
I want to thank the Mayor and the committee for organizing that event.

3156
04:22:58,000 --> 04:23:01,000
And we have some great speakers and they looked at regional collaboration.

3157
04:23:01,000 --> 04:23:03,000
A lot of ideas shared around the table.

3158
04:23:03,000 --> 04:23:05,000
Also attended the Housing Workshop.

3159
04:23:05,000 --> 04:23:06,000
It was the Mayor.

3160
04:23:06,000 --> 04:23:07,000
We'll speak to.

3161
04:23:07,000 --> 04:23:09,000
We had a whole central, a lot of good ideas.

3162
04:23:09,000 --> 04:23:11,000
There are a lot of people excited about opportunities.

3163
04:23:11,000 --> 04:23:12,000
Moving forward.

3164
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:15,000
Even though we don't see funding come from BC housing at this point in time.

3165
04:23:15,000 --> 04:23:17,000
But a lot of ideas were shared around the table.

3166
04:23:17,000 --> 04:23:19,000
I think there's some good thing.

3167
04:23:19,000 --> 04:23:20,000
Some synergy there.

3168
04:23:20,000 --> 04:23:21,000
Energy there.

3169
04:23:21,000 --> 04:23:24,000
Other than that, I attended Mission Community Services Workshop.

3170
04:23:24,000 --> 04:23:25,000
We did a board.

3171
04:23:25,000 --> 04:23:27,000
We did a tour of Riverside Housing project.

3172
04:23:27,000 --> 04:23:29,000
And it went to the play the Hobbit play.

3173
04:23:29,000 --> 04:23:32,000
And it's a very excellent play of a young people in our community.

3174
04:23:32,000 --> 04:23:33,000
She was eliminated.

3175
04:23:33,000 --> 04:23:34,000
And other than that.

3176
04:23:34,000 --> 04:23:35,000
That's it.

3177
04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:36,000
I hope to have over the walk.

3178
04:23:36,000 --> 04:23:37,000
I want to walk.

3179
04:23:37,000 --> 04:23:38,000
Yeah.

3180
04:23:38,000 --> 04:23:39,000
More than the cafeteria.

3181
04:23:39,000 --> 04:23:41,000
And the symposium and the cafeteria.

3182
04:23:41,000 --> 04:23:43,000
Councillor Gill.

3183
04:23:44,000 --> 04:23:45,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

3184
04:23:45,000 --> 04:23:46,000
Just in the sake of time.

3185
04:23:46,000 --> 04:23:47,000
I'll make it quick.

3186
04:23:47,000 --> 04:23:49,000
I did have a chance to attend with Councillor Lies.

3187
04:23:49,000 --> 04:23:52,000
Thank you for the invite to the Rodden Garden Club.

3188
04:23:52,000 --> 04:23:58,000
And there was a presentation on a really a call of action.

3189
04:23:58,000 --> 04:24:03,000
And I guess the federal government, sorry, is thinking about

3190
04:24:03,000 --> 04:24:09,000
funding or banning recreation fishing in the freezer.

3191
04:24:09,000 --> 04:24:12,000
So I would recommend that folks kind of get engaged.

3192
04:24:12,000 --> 04:24:16,000
And speak to their federal reps.

3193
04:24:16,000 --> 04:24:17,000
Thank you.

3194
04:24:17,000 --> 04:24:18,000
Councillor Hamilton.

3195
04:24:18,000 --> 04:24:19,000
Thank you, Mayor Horn.

3196
04:24:19,000 --> 04:24:22,000
I'll just highlight the mission foundation.

3197
04:24:22,000 --> 04:24:26,000
As people probably know, they did receive a nice big weakment from the

3198
04:24:26,000 --> 04:24:27,000
Heaps and staff fund.

3199
04:24:27,000 --> 04:24:32,000
They received the final payment of that recently of almost $500,000.

3200
04:24:32,000 --> 04:24:36,000
And that puts the foundation at about $13.5 million.

3201
04:24:36,000 --> 04:24:40,000
People probably know that Jamie Hayes, who is the executive director of the

3202
04:24:40,000 --> 04:24:45,000
foundation, resigned to move on to another opportunity.

3203
04:24:45,000 --> 04:24:50,000
So there will be a call out for a new executive assistant.

3204
04:24:50,000 --> 04:24:54,000
And the scholarships are interviews will be coming up May 6 to 8.

3205
04:24:54,000 --> 04:24:58,000
There are scholarships for 19 plus students.

3206
04:24:58,000 --> 04:25:02,000
So students in their second and third year or more can apply.

3207
04:25:02,000 --> 04:25:06,000
It will be capped at 40 for the adult scholarships.

3208
04:25:06,000 --> 04:25:09,000
Interviews will be for May 6 to the 8th.

3209
04:25:09,000 --> 04:25:15,000
The window is open from March the 9th to April the 10th to get your application in.

3210
04:25:15,000 --> 04:25:16,000
Thank you.

3211
04:25:16,000 --> 04:25:17,000
Can I also rely?

3212
04:25:17,000 --> 04:25:18,000
Yeah, thank you.

3213
04:25:18,000 --> 04:25:19,000
I won't repeat.

3214
04:25:19,000 --> 04:25:23,000
Everybody what they've all attended except for the business excellence awards.

3215
04:25:23,000 --> 04:25:29,000
So congratulations to all the nominees for all the businesses in mission.

3216
04:25:29,000 --> 04:25:34,000
It was great to see so many young new business owners and entrepreneurs.

3217
04:25:34,000 --> 04:25:38,000
And small businesses in mission are, what did they say?

3218
04:25:38,000 --> 04:25:44,000
We've got the largest amount of small businesses in mission operating out of the valley.

3219
04:25:44,000 --> 04:25:47,000
So that was very interesting and just congratulations to them all.

3220
04:25:47,000 --> 04:25:48,000
So thank you.

3221
04:25:48,000 --> 04:25:49,000
Thank you.

3222
04:25:49,000 --> 04:25:53,000
I attended the Urban Development Institute's Fraser Valley forecast last week.

3223
04:25:53,000 --> 04:25:57,000
And got to hear from the industry.

3224
04:25:57,000 --> 04:26:02,000
They were very cautiously optimistic that things are starting to improve in the,

3225
04:26:02,000 --> 04:26:07,000
of portable housing or in the housing market in general in particular in the missing middle.

3226
04:26:07,000 --> 04:26:17,000
They were pretty critical of many municipalities in their processes and policies and how they've impacted affordability.

3227
04:26:17,000 --> 04:26:25,000
And in particular, those in Metro Vancouver, but they were actually quite complimentary of mission.

3228
04:26:25,000 --> 04:26:29,000
And they specifically talked about our fast track program and the work we're doing.

3229
04:26:29,000 --> 04:26:31,000
So that was reinforcing.

3230
04:26:31,000 --> 04:26:34,000
The Symposium Councilor Plexus spoke up.

3231
04:26:34,000 --> 04:26:39,000
We'll lead to further conversations and I'll include it in my one to one meetings with counselors.

3232
04:26:39,000 --> 04:26:45,000
But one of the things I anticipate is that you'll see and hear as we move into the election.

3233
04:26:45,000 --> 04:26:53,000
More and more effort to think about the food industry as an economic development opportunity and of opportunity and increased food security and food sovereignty.

3234
04:26:53,000 --> 04:26:55,000
And that was a common theme.

3235
04:26:55,000 --> 04:27:00,000
So we started to go beyond this idea of we need more food banks and we need more starfishes.

3236
04:27:00,000 --> 04:27:07,000
And we need really what we need is to have an integrated food system here that provides for employment as well.

3237
04:27:07,000 --> 04:27:20,000
I met today with CPC, I'll pill counselors in more, but our issues related to the unhoused encampments are no longer just shaping up to be issues along our street fronts.

3238
04:27:20,000 --> 04:27:28,000
But the leading to fatalities and near misses behind the malls and the areas that are out of our day to day vision.

3239
04:27:28,000 --> 04:27:34,000
But people are passing away and CPC is explained to us that this is a significant concern.

3240
04:27:34,000 --> 04:27:46,000
And detailed that not only is it obviously harming the individuals that are being hit or at risk by trains, but significantly affecting.

3241
04:27:46,000 --> 04:27:50,000
The people who work on those trains and having major impacts on them.

3242
04:27:50,000 --> 04:27:53,000
And so it really reflected the need for us to have a coordinated approach.

3243
04:27:53,000 --> 04:27:58,000
And I talked to them as you may know they have their own police department about working with our coordinated team.

3244
04:27:58,000 --> 04:28:00,000
And I was happy to hear they're doing that.

3245
04:28:00,000 --> 04:28:02,000
How is the planning session?

3246
04:28:02,000 --> 04:28:05,000
Excuse me, I'll fill in council more later on.

3247
04:28:05,000 --> 04:28:13,000
Councillor Plexus is right that there was no specific money brought to the table, but there was definitely, especially on the two pieces of property that the city of Mission has some.

3248
04:28:13,000 --> 04:28:15,000
Divine over some interest in moving forward.

3249
04:28:15,000 --> 04:28:23,000
I'll explain further on that, but I think those tables were activated and we also had enrollment from Parkside Church.

3250
04:28:23,000 --> 04:28:27,000
And they also were a major partner that day.

3251
04:28:27,000 --> 04:28:29,000
And this note of the year was a big success.

3252
04:28:29,000 --> 04:28:33,000
So thank you for being there, Councillor Plexus and Councillor Gill.

3253
04:28:33,000 --> 04:28:39,000
I did notice that Councillor Gill cheated on the route and went wrong way and he blamed it on his baby.

3254
04:28:39,000 --> 04:28:43,000
And it was really, it was one of the lowest moments of my week.

3255
04:28:43,000 --> 04:28:48,000
Economic development advisory committee met and you'll be seeing some resolutions from them.

3256
04:28:48,000 --> 04:28:56,000
But essentially they suggested that they wind down and ask council to address economic development in other future plans.

3257
04:28:56,000 --> 04:29:04,000
And lastly, I'll remind the public that tomorrow, as if we haven't had a long enough night, tonight, precarious is happening at the Clark theater.

3258
04:29:04,000 --> 04:29:09,000
And I'll just welcome people to go and participate in peer recognition and learn about that.

3259
04:29:09,000 --> 04:29:11,000
That event is a great event.

3260
04:29:11,000 --> 04:29:20,000
It's always unfortunate that the only people who go are people who are one fortunately lived with the imminent impact of substance use in their lives,

3261
04:29:20,000 --> 04:29:24,000
whether it's as a family member or as an individual who's using.

3262
04:29:24,000 --> 04:29:32,000
And it really is very apparent when you go and sit there and listen that this is a topic that should be of interest to everybody in their community,

3263
04:29:32,000 --> 04:29:37,000
especially if you want to make sure that you're thinking about how to keep your kids living well and clean.

3264
04:29:37,000 --> 04:29:40,000
So please go and participate in that the Clark.

3265
04:29:40,000 --> 04:29:43,000
Is it six o'clock?

3266
04:29:43,000 --> 04:29:44,000
Thank you.

3267
04:29:44,000 --> 04:29:45,000
Thank you.

3268
04:29:45,000 --> 04:29:55,000
Okay, and with that, I'll move to question period from members of the public and any item for the agenda with the exception of the two public hearings, which we cannot speak to any further.

3269
04:29:55,000 --> 04:29:58,000
Is anybody wishes to come to the microphone?

3270
04:29:58,000 --> 04:30:00,000
I have a speaking suspicion.

3271
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:11,000
The only reason there's anybody here right now is their legs have stopped circulating blood. So with that, I'll call for a motion to adjourn, Councillor Davis, seconded by Councillor Hurrah, all those in favour?

3272
04:30:11,000 --> 04:30:12,000
Opposed?