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meeting. Once all presentations are made, we move into the

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decision - making process and no further input from agents

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or members of the public will be permitted. Requests for

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deferrals will be handled at the beginning of today's hearing,

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and no evidence will be heard today on those files.

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The Committee may or may not assign new hearing dates

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for items deferred at today's hearing. Once deferred hearing dates

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are finalised, everyone in the original circulation area, as well

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as those that have written in, registered speak, or place

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their name on the sign - in sheet located beside

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the podium, will be notified. If you are an applicant

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and you wish to defer your application, please raise your

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hand now, whether in person or using the virtual hand

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raise feature to let us know. Members, do you have

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any declarations of conflict of interest on today's agenda? No

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chair. No. Thanks, Alexander. Welcome to the Committee of Adjustment

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meeting for Thursday, August 27th. We're going to start off

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by seeing if anybody wishes to defer withdrawn applications. Is

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there anybody in the audience that wishes to defer with

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drawn application on today's agenda. No. Alexander, any. Mr. Chair,

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yes, we do a few hands raised. First up, I

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have Tony DeFranco. Tony, you've been unmuted. You can go

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ahead. Thank you, and good afternoon. I'm the agent representing

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the owner on behalf of 21, 21 Rappern. It's file

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number A247. And we would ask for a deferral, given

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the staff report with that came forward. Yeah, I'm not

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even sure. I think staff's suggesting that it needs to

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go through rezoning application. Is that correct, Stath. Thank you,

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Mr. Chair. Yes. That's correct. We'd be recommending the rezoning

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process as opposed to the Committee of Adjustment. Mr. Page.

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Well, just if it did, for some reason, come back

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to us. I'm very uncomfortable with any of the setbacks

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being asked for their existing residential. The low density stuff.

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Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I look at this

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proposal, and to me, it's a rezoning, not something that

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with this number of variances, and it's not just a

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number of variances. It's an introducing a different land use,

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which is quite different than what's immediately across from it.

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The residential low rise residential neighbourhood. Thank you. Mr. De

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Franko, I guess this is almost, weren't you here last

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week for a similar application. Yes, yes, chair. I was

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here last week for 1055 War Street. Look, you know

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what, I think whoever's giving you the advice to go

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through Committee of Adjustment versus zoning is probably not giving

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you the best advice. My suggestion is we will defer

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it. But I think you're going to have a hard

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uphill climb if you come back to the committee with

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the way it is. I think you probably want to

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listen to staff and have a conversation with them. You

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know, it doesn't hurt us deferring it for now. But

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again, if you come back to this committee, I think

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you're going to have an uphill climb as far as

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that the application goes. So why don't we just defer,

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leave it open - ended when you're ready to go.

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You can just come back to the committee, or sorry,

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contact Mr. Alexander, he'll put you on new agenda if

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you come back. If you don't, and you go through

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the rezoning, then you just withdraw the application. Thanks very

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much. Committee members are satisfied to withdraw. Very, sorry, to

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defer. I know, I'm not sure if the audience have

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an interest in this application. I think, yeah, so we're

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deferring it. Staff's comments are basically they should go through

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rezoning application. We're not sure how that's going to occur.

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But if you were circulated on it, you'll be recirculated

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on again if we do have a hearing here, or

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they may go through the rezonin, and then it gets

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withdrawn. And the more hearing date. So we'll keep you

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posted when we do have a new date. If you've

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signed your name up to the sheet there, you'll make

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sure that it's just on at the bottom of the

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stairs on the counter there. And then you're more than

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welcome to come back on the near hearing date, okay?

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Committee member satisfied to defer. So application's been deferred. Alexander,

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anybody else wished to defer with drawn application? Yes, Mr.

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Chair. Next up, we have Paul Demchak registered. Paul, you've

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been unmuted. You can go ahead. Good afternoon, members of

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the committee. Um, I'm here as the Landy's Planning Consultant

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on behalf of the applicant for 660 Kennedy Road. This

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is file. A237 - 26. We receive city recommendation to

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defer the application. This included some by - law, um,

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comments associated with the parking spaces and storage on site,

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which the client intends to rectify. There's also transportation services

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staff comments, which we intended to update our transportation study

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to address those comments. Do you have a date in

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mind, or did you just want to leave it open

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- ended, then just come back? Yeah, okay, we'll just

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leave it open - ended. Is there anybody in the

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eyes has an interest in application A. 237. It's 6560

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Kennedy Road. Now Committee member satisfied to defer. So, sir,

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your application's been deferred when you're ready to go. Just

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contact the Committee Office and the Plitch on Neagenda, okay?

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Thank you, members. Thank you. Alexander, anybody else. Yes, Mr.

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Chair, we have Chizang registered, his hand - up. Gee,

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you've been unmuted, you can go ahead. Hi. Um, I

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speak for my dad, Keda. My name is Villing for

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the file number is A. 251. 26, address 3152 Content

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Crash. Applying for the driveway. Yeah, do you want to

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defer the app? You wanted to further the application. I'm

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not sure I got the common. I'm a little bit

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confused. Yeah, so the comment - staff. So the comments

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are that they want you to defer and sit with

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staff and look at potentially redesigning the driveway. So your

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two options is you can defer it now, or you

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can wait till your turn, and you can present. It's

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up to you on what you want to do. Um,

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sorry. So the option one is differ, and then the

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second one. So can you repeat one more time? Do

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you want to defer or do you want to present.

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Kanai's plane to met that first. Right now, you're not

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on turn. If you wanted to present to the committee,

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we'll call you when it's your turn. If you want

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to defer, now's the time to defer it. Sorry, can

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I just explain to my dad first? And then I

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ask him. No, you can't do that. Do you want

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to defer the application or do you want to present

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it? I'm not sure if I can be any more

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clearer than that. Okay. Um, yeah, yes. So what, you

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know what, just why don't you wait until we call

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your applications up, talk to your dad, and then you

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can come back and tell us what you want to

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do, okay? Okay, so when I will get the call

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back? No, no, just stay on the line. We'll call

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your application, okay? Okay, no problem, yeah, sorry. No problem.

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Alexander, anybody else. Three you, Mr. Chair, no, we don't

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have any of the further hands raised. All right, so

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we'll start at the top. The agenda will call application

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B28 at 1840 and 1850 Blur Street. Is there anybody

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in the aids has an interest in this application? No?

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Okay. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. If you just want

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to introduce yourself for the record. Yep, my name is

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Stephanie Cost, planner with Bosefields addresses three church streets, suite

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200 Toronto M5E, 1M2. Okay, so it looks like you

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have favorable planning staff comments. There's nobody in the audience

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nor online that wishes to address committee on this application.

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So if you just want to give us a brief

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presentation on what you're looking at doing. Sure, thank you,

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Mr. Chair, and good afternoon to all. As you mentioned,

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we do have a positive staff report. And so what

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we are essentially seeking to do today is a severance

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that will facilitate financing for the construction of new purpose

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- built rental housing that has already been approved on

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this site. Perhaps we could go to the next slide,

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and I could show you where the site is. So

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you can see here, the site's located on the south

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side of Blur Street, approximately 200 metres west of the

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Etobico Creek. You can see that it has existing 14

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- story buildings on it, and the approval that we

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recently received through an official plan and zoning bylawmen application

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is to add two additional rental buildings to the southerly

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portion of the site, and those are at 18 stories,

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each, and will facilitate the construction of about 450 new

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rental dwelling units. For the next slide, please. We have

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a site plan application currently underway. That is nearing completion,

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so now is the time to be before the committee

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requesting the severance of the property. As I said this

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severance is required by CMHC to enable the funding for

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the rental units, the new rental units on the southernly

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portion of the property. If we could go to the

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next slide. So here you can see the severance that

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we are contemplating. So the existing buildings are in the

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orange to the north and the new approved rental buildings

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are to the south there. Um, importantly, no variances are

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required to facilitate this severance. And in order to ensure

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that the sites continue to operate as one seamless vehicular

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access, shared amenities, shared servicing as they are today, there

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will be blanket reciprocal easements put on the property. The

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details of which are being sorted out through an agreement,

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and in the development engineering comments, um, uh, 43R plan

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will be provided along with the agreement to satisfy that

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department. Perfect. Um, have you seen the draft conditions? Are

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you satisfied with them? Correct, no problem. You got no

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problem with them? Through you, Mr. Chair. Unfortunately, an incorrect

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version of the conditions was published online. Apologies for that.

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Two conditions were left out. One was for zoning clearance,

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and the other was for the region of Peel. So

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did you just want to maybe... So their comments from

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those departments were included in the comment report. We just

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didn't list them in the actual list of conditions, so

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those would need to be added to the list of

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conditions. So there's two conditions that we need to add,

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just with regards to getting clearance from zoning in the

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region appeal. And I guess based on the comments that

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they made in the package, so are you okay with

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that? Three of you. Yeah, they didn't put them on

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there yet. They missed them, so we've got to amend

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the draft conditions and add two more conditions to it.

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So one is to receive clearance from the zoning department.

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With regards to their comments that they've made in your

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package. And the second one is with regards to the

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region of peel comments that were made. You just need

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to get clearance from them on that. So through you,

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Mr. Chair, fundamentally, I don't think there's a concern, but

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I just haven't seen... Could you direct me to where

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these are in the staff report? Yeah, so the region

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appeal comments are an appendix 4, and then the zoning

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comments are an appendix 2. Okay, so this report I

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have doesn't have appendix 4. An appendix 2. I have

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the zoning. And that's fine, no issue with the zoning

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complaints, but I am... So I can just read it

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off quickly, what zonings, sorry, what the region appeal is

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asking for is arrangement satisfactory to the region of shall

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be made with respect to the location of existing and

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installation of new services and or possible required municipal or

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municipal easements. No problem, that's fine. So you're okay with

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those? Yes. Committee members, so I do amend the conditions,

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okay? Alexander, comments, please. Yes, Mr. Chair, the city has

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no objections to the application, no written submissions are received,

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no members of the public kept pre - registered speak.

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Thank you again. Is there anybody in the audience has

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an interest application A, B28, located 1840, 1850 Blur Street.

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No? Oh, yep. Do you want to have seat for

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a moment? Thank you. Sir, yeah, if you want to

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come forward. Do you want to give us your name

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and address for the record, please? My name is Dino

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Balakhesko, and I'm a resident at 80 - 40 Blue

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Street. And I'm here today to strongly object to this

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application for consent to several. Well, and the sender, the

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zoning for the 218 - story towers was previously approved.

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Severing this lot into two independent parcels right now is

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entirely premature and creates massive unresolved planning failures for the

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existing community. I urge the committee to deny or defer

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this application based on several critical issues. First one, severe

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gridlock and traffic safety. Sorry, sir, what you're doing now

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is you're relitigating the zoning application. That's not what's before

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us. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yes, I'm illegal

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that. What we're dealing with is a severance line. You're

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talking about gridlock that has nothing to do with what's

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here today with regards to the severance. So we're not

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going to litigate the approval of the - White me

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speaking, what's the problem? Sorry, you know, we've got, a

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lot of people in the audience, we need to hear

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comments that are relative to our decision today, not on

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something else that was already made somewhere else. So if

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you want to stick to why the severance is premature,

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but if you start talking about gridlock and about all

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this other stuff, I'm going to cut you off, and

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then I'm going to tell you to sit down. Let

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me tell you. Severing this lot now creates a chaotic

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scenario where two completely separate independently owned properties are forced

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to share congested, overlapping driveway layout. The site plan review

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files, SP25. 8W3 has not finalised how these two independent

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owners will manage safe. Daily, vaguely grass without spilling traffic

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onto Blurs. So just to answer that one, before they,

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so if they're here today for the severance, there's conditions

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that we had mentioned to them, the five conditions. What

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they have to do is they have to go through

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those conditions and satisfy comments with regards to traffic flow

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easements and all that other stuff. They have to get

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those signed off by the departments. If they get them

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signed off to the satisfaction of the departments after they've

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reviewed them, then they'll get their severance. If they don't,

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then they're going to have to meet the requirements that

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the department's are asking them for. So whatever severeds we

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do today, if it gets approved, there are conditions that

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they have to go through and meet. And some of

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the comments that you've made will be reviewed at that

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point. With the comments? Sorry? Would you let me make

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the comments? You had a comment about the traffic, and

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you said that there was going to be a problem

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with it, and it wasn't being reviewed. So I was

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just telling you what's going on. Okay, so I understand

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will take care of it. It's not a variance, it's

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a severance. So let me clarify two things. The approval

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for the zoning and all that stuff with the high

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- rise condyles and so forth. That has gone through

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that process. No, no, let me finish. They will have

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spoke, they would have dealt with the traffic in the

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area and so forth. This process here with the severance,

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they'll have to deal with the circulation of traffic within

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those boundaries. So those will have to be met before

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any severed certificate is given. Okay. Under Mrs. Oga zoning

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by - law, the existing 14 - story buildings are

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legally required to maintain a minimum amount of outdoor amenity

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area per unit, for the health and well - being

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of the tenants. By slicing this property in health, the

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developer is permanently stripping the existing towers of the green

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space, open lawn, and mature trees that fulfill that legal

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requirement. Sir, to stop you there. There's going to be

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reciprocal agreements that both properties can use, that's going to

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be treated pretty much as one property. So there is

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going to be reciprocal agreements that they're going to be

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working out through the planning department that will allow this

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to function as one property. The proposed property lines cut

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directly to the surface parking space. It's currently relied upon

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by the residents at 1840 and 1850 Blue Street. If

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you subvert this land today, you create an immediate and

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illegal parking deficit for the existing buildings before any replacement

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underground parking structures are even dug. The developer has not

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secured an official legally binding shared parking agreement that guarantees

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where current residents will park during and after construction. That'll

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be up to them to figure that out. And the

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project is currently frozen in the middle of a highly

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technical site plan review under application SP25. A. W3. The

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final location of fire access routes, underground plumbing infrastructure and

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legal tree preservation hoarding lines have not been finalised or

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signed off by city engineers. Severing the cut you off

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there, those are conditions that they'll have to meet before

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they get the severance. Hopefully, yes. Well, they're the conditions

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that she's agreed to so that they'll have to meet

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them. Because B. 18. 185 has removed our communities democratic

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right to appeal the wrong decision to the OLT. The

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burden falls entirely on this committee today to protect the

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existing tenants. You are our only line of defence. If

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you are proven in complete severance layout today, the residents

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have no legal safety net to fix it later. For

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these reasons, I ask the committee denied this severance, or

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at very least the issue of formal deferral until the

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side plan approval process is a hundred percent complete can

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prove the existing towers remain fully zoning compliant. Okay, thank

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you. Committee members, has any questions? Thank you, sir, for

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your comments. Thanks. Ms. Quest, do you want to come

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back up to the... Where are you? Just to confirm,

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this property is going to act as one property, even

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though you've got two, you're going to have a severance

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line in there. Tenants from both locations will be able

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to use everything that's on either property, parking, and all

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that other stuff is going to act as one. Exactly.

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This is just solely for CMHC purposes in order to

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get the finances. Thank you. Committee members. Questions or comments?

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Ready for a motion. Mr. Dale. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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I believe this application meets the criteria set out in

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section 5124, the Planning Act, and I'll move approval subject

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to the provisional conditions as amended. Do I have a

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second, Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll second the

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motion. This process is not incomplete, and this consent is

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not premature. Any discussion on the motion? All those in

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favor. Any opposed? It's cross your application has been approved

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by the committee and subject to the draft conditions that

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you agree to, okay? Thank you. Next application is B224

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at 751 Indian Road. Is there anybody in the it's

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has an interest in this application? Good afternoon, sir. If

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you want to give us your name and address, and

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there is someone in the audience who wants to address

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committee, so if you just give us a presentation, please.

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Sure. My name, Oris Steenowski. I'm an agent on this

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application. Stenosky architects 194 earlier croat, Tron Ontario. Good of

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thin Charmand Committee. I'm here to present revised application. Originally

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we submitted proposed severance for three lots. And then, uh,

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as per comments from planning department, we revised our application.

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And now we are proposing only two lots. One lot

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to remain and one new severed lot. Uh, as per

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planning comments, uh, it's clear we are within the 4plex,

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4 desks of the committee. And the variant seems to

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be minor, as well as we don't need any variances

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for nearly created lots there within the zoning bylaw. And

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similar to what's in the neighbourhood. Uh, so we think

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it's really minor in nature and would like to ask

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for your approval. There is some letters from the neighbours,

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and I guess some of the concerns are with regards

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to some drainage and so forth. So just to confirm,

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you do have to provide, I think one of the

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conditions from TNW are development in engineering construction, as they

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call themselves now. You do have to provide an overall

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grading plan before you can get your severance done, correct?

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Like that's part of the conditions that if you agree

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to that, that will be part of what you need

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to do before you get your certificate? Uh, yes, absolutely.

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Uh, there is a number of conditions from various departments.

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And this is what we would be looking into. And

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we can satisfy all of those conditions. So when I

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look at this, uh, these drawings, you've got the, uh,

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the new house being built away from the, let's say,

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the left side of the, uh, the property line. Is

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that because you're trying to create some amenity space there?

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Is that because the issues with drainage on that side?

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Or how did you, how did you go about citing

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this property or the house where it got it sitting

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on the lot. Um, sure. Uh, I would be glad

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to explain. Um, we had a number of discussions with

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traffic department and the key point was for the traffic

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to keep the entrance to the lot directly across the

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entrance to the lot on the other side of Medigane.

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Uh, so on our sideline, we are showing that we

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are centring the driveway right in the centre of the

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driveway opposite to this proposed a lot. And basically this

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is the main element that kind of set the severance

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line on the lot to have an access, as well

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as for region of fuel connections, uh, there is an

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existing connection. So for two houses across mitigance lane that

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was several two years ago and as well, we are

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lining up with those connections to make a possible connection

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in the best easiest way. Thank you. Mrs. Robinson. Thank

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you Mr. Chairman. I didn't hear you mention anything about

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the drainage. And we have letters in our file. In

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our package here from neighbours that talk about the drainage

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that comes and the evidence even from other official documents

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from years ago about drainage that comes from those lots

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through this and kind of right through, if we could

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go, I don't know how to do the page number.

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I think it's page 58. If whoever's, who was on

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the. Yeah, Evan, if you could go to, it's appendix

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4A, that's it. That's it. That's the one I'm looking

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at. So that drainage is going to come down and

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through this lot. And there is no storm sewer. So

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I see the catch base in there, but that is,

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and they showed us pictures of a lot of standing

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water. So, and I know that it sounds like it

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didn't get flagged by engineering, but I have a serious

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concern about how you're going to deal with this. And

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so maybe you've studied it. Can you tell us how

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you're going to deal with that stormwater that's going to

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come down to this lot. Well, uh, we were planning

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to address it by our grading plan working with engineering

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department. And if there is an existing condition, as we

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see on the screen right now, I think it's a

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perfect opportunity to fix it and get the drainage corrected

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to the way it should be to prevent from flooding

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any adjacent properties. Uh, this is the condition of grading

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approval not to have any impact on the neighbours. And

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that's exactly what we are planning to do. And as

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well as there is an existing condition, which is not

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satisfactory. I think it's a perfect opportunity to address it

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and regrade the site properly that would satisfy the departments.

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The problem is when I look at this, that blue

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area that's on the, the big blue area on the

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neighbor's property as well. So they have low lying land

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there. So this, it's not that easy for you to

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just independently on your lot. Deal with it. Janice, this

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is the neighbour that provided this. It's not from an

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engineer. So at the end of the day, we've got

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comments in our file. And I'm going to read them

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out so the neighbour realised in everybody else does. The

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applicants consultant engineer will be required to prepare an overall

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grading service and drainage plans, which contain sufficient details to

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ensure grading compatibility with the adjacent lands and submit the

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grading and drainage proposal to this department for review and

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approval. That's prior to the certificate being issued. And then

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there's another lock grading and drainage where we advise the

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applicant that issuance of any building permits for the new

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dolland will be subject to the owner submitting a certified

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lock rating and drainage plan of this department for review

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and approval. So it's going to be looked at twice.

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So at the end of the day, we've got the

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engine, the professionals in our building and they're going to

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have to get their own engineers. If they don't meet

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it and it does cause these problems, then they're not

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going to get their severance application. My suggestion would be

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that, um, Alexander, if we can send these documents to

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Mr. Jacobice or whomever is down there. So they've got

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that so that when they do review it, they've got

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some information from some of the neighbours of what has

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occurred. And then they can take a look at it.

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Uh, any other questions, Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Clarification

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may be in favor of one of the residents letters

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that we saw. So even based on this sketch here,

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the access to the drive is two city right -

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of - way, correct? Not Madigan's Lane, private owned or

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any of that stuff. It's all owned by the city.

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Is that correct? Yes, correct. Thank you very much. Any

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other questions. Alexander Comments, please. City has no objections to

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the application. Uh, two letters of objection, one letter of

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concern we received as a result of this circulation, as

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this is a deferred file. And you know, previous emissions

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that have not been amended remain enforced and effect. One

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member of the public has pre - registered speak. Thank

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you. Have you seen the draft conditions you satisfied with

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them? Yes, sir. Okay. So you've gone over a seat

472
00:27:49,004 --> 00:27:51,124
for a moment. We'll see if the neighbours want to

473
00:27:51,124 --> 00:27:52,564
speak. If you want to speak, just come up, give

474
00:27:52,604 --> 00:28:02,563
us your name and address and comments. Good afternoon, sir.

475
00:28:02,584 --> 00:28:07,923
Good afternoon. Um, I have submitted a PowerPoint presentation that,

476
00:28:07,923 --> 00:28:13,059
yeah, we go to the next one, please. My wife,

477
00:28:13,099 --> 00:28:15,059
I'm the owner occupant or myself and my wife are

478
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,619
the only occupant of 1366 Madigan's Lane. This is a

479
00:28:19,619 --> 00:28:22,799
view of the back of our property. In this summer.

480
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:28,079
Next slide, please. This is a condition that we created.

481
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,199
The dark hatch section is Madigan's Lane. The brown section

482
00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:37,143
is city property with the catch base involved. That white,

483
00:28:37,484 --> 00:28:42,086
the green hatched area is the subject property 751. And

484
00:28:42,126 --> 00:28:45,686
the purple hatch property is our property. Next slide, please.

485
00:28:46,619 --> 00:28:49,958
This is a spring view of the flooding that occurs

486
00:28:50,219 --> 00:28:54,438
in these areas. Um, we are, we have an easement

487
00:28:54,478 --> 00:28:57,618
over Madigan's land. We do not own Madigan's lane. And

488
00:28:57,659 --> 00:29:00,358
we cannot at one point because this flooding became so

489
00:29:00,459 --> 00:29:06,838
significant. We attempted to connect to city sanitary service and

490
00:29:06,878 --> 00:29:10,294
water. And we could not do that because we don't

491
00:29:10,334 --> 00:29:16,651
have an easement beneath the land. Next slide, please. More

492
00:29:16,651 --> 00:29:19,851
of the flooding that is evident in the springtime. Next.

493
00:29:22,811 --> 00:29:27,190
Recently five years ago we had to relocate our septic

494
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:30,070
system weeping tile because of the flooding that was occurring

495
00:29:30,651 --> 00:29:33,750
and increasingly every year. So we, we had to extend

496
00:29:33,851 --> 00:29:36,493
it back to the rear of the property. In order

497
00:29:36,533 --> 00:29:41,546
to dispose of sanitary sewers and household water. Um, next

498
00:29:41,586 --> 00:29:47,538
slide, please. Subsequently two years later, this did not alleviate

499
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:49,618
all our problems. And we had to create an additional

500
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,378
drainage ditch within our property and a catch base to

501
00:29:53,418 --> 00:29:56,828
pump water from the back of our property. To Madigan's

502
00:29:56,849 --> 00:30:02,576
lane to keep the house inhabitable. And serviced. Next slide,

503
00:30:02,576 --> 00:30:06,232
please. This is the subject property. A number of years

504
00:30:06,272 --> 00:30:09,232
ago, the owner applied to Billet a swimming pool, as

505
00:30:09,232 --> 00:30:11,493
you'll see in the slide. The areas were pointing out

506
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:14,613
here as a drainage swell that was required in order

507
00:30:14,653 --> 00:30:18,696
to build the swimming pool. The proposed property will be

508
00:30:18,736 --> 00:30:22,456
directly on top of this drain its will. Next slide,

509
00:30:22,456 --> 00:30:26,953
please. This is a letter that was sent to between

510
00:30:27,214 --> 00:30:33,487
works and retired councillor Mullen. 35 years ago. Uh, dealing

511
00:30:33,527 --> 00:30:38,207
with these drainage issues. And outlining the fact that the

512
00:30:38,548 --> 00:30:43,451
drainage in Madden's lane is severe. But our property is

513
00:30:43,491 --> 00:30:46,571
a natural drainage swell that runs from Terran Boulevard to

514
00:30:46,592 --> 00:30:49,611
the catch base and recently installed on Madison Lane to

515
00:30:49,712 --> 00:30:57,741
evacuate water from the adjoining properties. Next slide, please. The

516
00:30:57,741 --> 00:31:01,021
proposed consent application fails to satisfy the criteria set out

517
00:31:01,021 --> 00:31:05,341
in 5124 of the Ontario Planning Act, natural assets, conservation,

518
00:31:05,442 --> 00:31:14,190
natural resources, flood control and environmental protection. Next. The proposed

519
00:31:14,211 --> 00:31:17,150
minor variants application fails to meet the four tests under

520
00:31:17,171 --> 00:31:20,350
sexual. Sorry, sir. Yeah. There is no minor variances. So,

521
00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:23,870
um, because they've drawn the saw we're dealing with is

522
00:31:23,891 --> 00:31:26,510
the severance, which is we can only adjudicate under section

523
00:31:26,611 --> 00:31:29,790
5124. So if you want to continue speaking about the

524
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:32,490
flooding and so forth, under that section, that's fine. But

525
00:31:32,691 --> 00:31:35,550
this is not, we can't take this into consideration because

526
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:37,790
we're not, the variance and we can't look at the

527
00:31:37,971 --> 00:31:44,343
four tests under 5124. Okay. Next slide, please. Mrs. Sago

528
00:31:44,364 --> 00:31:49,780
official plan. As designated Clarkson and Lauren Park of low

529
00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:54,020
density generous front and reside yards designated for local communities.

530
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:57,060
The application represents a departure from the existing Lanti Fabric

531
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,820
in the established neighbourhood creates undersized uniquely shaped loss that

532
00:32:00,820 --> 00:32:04,420
do not exist in the neighbourhood is a significant deviation

533
00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:07,780
from the lighting pattern in the immediate neighbourhood, which is

534
00:32:07,961 --> 00:32:12,500
characterized predominantly by narrower, deeper lots with large rear yards.

535
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:18,395
Next slide. Mrs. Salga official plan requires infill development in

536
00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:20,515
the neighbourhood to be compatible with the surrounding area. It

537
00:32:20,576 --> 00:32:26,511
is not. Proposal creates a condition where lots with uncharacteristically

538
00:32:26,532 --> 00:32:30,831
shallow love dabs interface with adjacent properties to the west

539
00:32:30,852 --> 00:32:34,111
and to the north. The proposed shallow rear yard depths

540
00:32:34,132 --> 00:32:36,191
will result in a dwelling that will overlook the rear

541
00:32:36,372 --> 00:32:39,311
and side yards of adjacent properties to the west and

542
00:32:39,351 --> 00:32:42,031
decide yard of the property to the north. Next slide,

543
00:32:42,031 --> 00:32:47,345
please. As our position that the consent should be denied

544
00:32:47,606 --> 00:32:50,225
because serious flooding concerns in the property and adjoining properties

545
00:32:50,966 --> 00:32:53,185
does not meet the criteria set up in the Ontario

546
00:32:53,225 --> 00:32:56,225
planning act does not be conformed with the Mississauga official

547
00:32:56,246 --> 00:33:00,794
plan. And there exists at 3. 3 metre reserve at

548
00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:04,314
the proposed entry to the new lot, which is there

549
00:33:04,354 --> 00:33:07,872
specifically to prevent this type of development. We ask that

550
00:33:07,973 --> 00:33:11,525
that reserve be kept. Thank you. Thank you. Um, just

551
00:33:11,565 --> 00:33:14,085
a couple things. Number one is the condition with regards

552
00:33:14,186 --> 00:33:17,525
to the existing 0. 3 metre reserve. It's part of,

553
00:33:17,525 --> 00:33:19,765
uh, staff's comments that that has to be lifted by

554
00:33:19,866 --> 00:33:22,885
staff. So they've got to deal with this planning department

555
00:33:23,786 --> 00:33:27,125
and or sorry, uh, transition works and deal with that

556
00:33:27,946 --> 00:33:30,565
reserve being lifted. So it's up to them staff to

557
00:33:30,605 --> 00:33:33,605
do that. Um, with regards to the official plan and

558
00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:36,325
missaga plan staff, planning staff had reviewed it. They feel

559
00:33:36,365 --> 00:33:38,965
that the lots do not need any zoning. They don't

560
00:33:38,965 --> 00:33:41,685
need any variances. They meet the zorning requirements and official

561
00:33:41,706 --> 00:33:44,565
plan. So they feel comfortable that it meets that. Your

562
00:33:44,565 --> 00:33:48,325
flooding concerns are, uh, you know, I mean, showing the

563
00:33:48,365 --> 00:33:50,245
pitchers that you've shown. The only thing that I can

564
00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:51,965
tell you, I'm not sure how this is going to

565
00:33:51,965 --> 00:33:54,885
go, but if it does get approved, um, or even

566
00:33:54,885 --> 00:33:58,405
if it doesn't, I'm going to suggest to the Secretary

567
00:33:58,405 --> 00:34:02,245
of Treasure that he has the, um, individuals that are

568
00:34:02,245 --> 00:34:05,685
in charge of the, uh, development and construction down in

569
00:34:05,786 --> 00:34:08,645
the south reach out to you, um, we send them

570
00:34:08,666 --> 00:34:10,325
a copy of what you've got so that if they

571
00:34:10,346 --> 00:34:14,305
are going to evaluate this application, um, when the, uh,

572
00:34:14,586 --> 00:34:19,205
owner, the agent, um, presents them with trainage plans and

573
00:34:19,245 --> 00:34:22,165
so forth that they can see what the issues are.

574
00:34:22,165 --> 00:34:24,325
So it's not like, because if you go down now,

575
00:34:24,325 --> 00:34:27,045
it's probably nice and dry. Whereas in the spring or

576
00:34:27,045 --> 00:34:29,685
the fall or whenever it rains, it becomes a different

577
00:34:29,685 --> 00:34:32,405
story. Or when the snow melts or whatever it is.

578
00:34:32,405 --> 00:34:34,485
So, um, if we do move forward with it, I'm

579
00:34:34,485 --> 00:34:37,525
going to suggest that they do, we pass your information

580
00:34:37,626 --> 00:34:39,205
on to them. And then they can reach out to

581
00:34:39,226 --> 00:34:40,805
you. You can have a discussion with them to give

582
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:43,205
them the lay of the land. No pun intended of

583
00:34:43,245 --> 00:34:46,662
what's occurring down there. Okay. Committee members, do you have

584
00:34:46,662 --> 00:34:49,687
any questions for the neighbour. No. Thank you for your

585
00:34:49,788 --> 00:34:52,887
comments. We appreciate it. Thank you. Sir, if you want

586
00:34:52,887 --> 00:35:02,883
to come back to the podium. So, I mean, you've

587
00:35:02,883 --> 00:35:05,603
got drainage. It seems like you may potentially have drainage

588
00:35:05,643 --> 00:35:06,483
issues. You see, or I don't know if you can

589
00:35:06,483 --> 00:35:11,443
overcome them or not. I mean, but obviously, um, comments

590
00:35:11,483 --> 00:35:15,763
from development and construction, um, and the conditions that you've

591
00:35:15,763 --> 00:35:17,283
agreed to, you're going to have to get those things

592
00:35:17,624 --> 00:35:18,803
signed off. You're going to have to get signed off

593
00:35:19,464 --> 00:35:22,003
the release of the 0. 3 metre reserve. So the

594
00:35:22,184 --> 00:35:24,883
homework that you have to do, uh, I'm going to,

595
00:35:24,883 --> 00:35:26,483
as I said, if we do move forward with this,

596
00:35:26,483 --> 00:35:30,083
I'm going to suggest to the Secretary Treasurer that the

597
00:35:30,083 --> 00:35:33,283
contact, you contact the neighbour, maybe Alexander, give them the

598
00:35:33,304 --> 00:35:36,883
contact information of who's ever in charge with whoever made

599
00:35:36,883 --> 00:35:40,883
the comments on this so that they can, um, get

600
00:35:40,883 --> 00:35:43,483
in contact with them and see the whole lay of

601
00:35:43,483 --> 00:35:45,763
the line. To you, Mr. Chair, I can provide development

602
00:35:45,803 --> 00:35:48,083
engineering construction with these materials. They would already have access

603
00:35:48,123 --> 00:35:50,803
to them anyways through the internal system. And they're contact

604
00:35:50,843 --> 00:35:54,403
information is in their comment. Okay. Um, so my recommendation

605
00:35:54,443 --> 00:35:56,163
to you is when you do your drainage plan, I

606
00:35:56,163 --> 00:35:58,163
think you need to take into consideration the property to

607
00:35:58,163 --> 00:36:01,683
the north or wherever, you know, properties around you and

608
00:36:01,683 --> 00:36:04,723
how it drains and not to impact. Because what we've

609
00:36:04,723 --> 00:36:06,963
seen on the slide here, um, if you're not going

610
00:36:06,963 --> 00:36:08,243
to be able to resolve that, I'm not sure you're

611
00:36:08,243 --> 00:36:12,803
going to be getting your severance, your certificate for approval,

612
00:36:12,803 --> 00:36:14,723
if this goes through. So just so you're aware of

613
00:36:14,723 --> 00:36:17,923
that. Okay. Uh, yes, of course, sir. And yeah, just

614
00:36:17,963 --> 00:36:20,963
for the neighbour, I don't know if you have comments

615
00:36:20,984 --> 00:36:25,363
from, uh, development and construction. In the individual's contact information

616
00:36:25,624 --> 00:36:27,843
should be on there. If you don't have it, call

617
00:36:27,864 --> 00:36:30,003
a Committee of Adjustment Office tomorrow and they'll give it

618
00:36:30,003 --> 00:36:31,363
to you. And then you can reach out to them

619
00:36:31,704 --> 00:36:33,523
and just have a conversation with them to let them

620
00:36:33,523 --> 00:36:35,843
know. And we'll share this stuff with them. But I

621
00:36:35,843 --> 00:36:37,203
think it's a good idea if you reach out to

622
00:36:37,203 --> 00:36:41,934
them. Okay. Um, Community members, any questions or comments. Ready

623
00:36:41,934 --> 00:36:45,843
for a motion that Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Move

624
00:36:45,883 --> 00:36:50,643
approval of the severance application. The run ovariance applications. But,

625
00:36:50,643 --> 00:36:54,003
uh, with due regard to section 5124, I think it's

626
00:36:54,024 --> 00:36:59,123
appropriate to approve subject to the, uh, draft conditions that

627
00:36:59,163 --> 00:37:03,443
have been discussed. I think it's appropriate. Um, you know,

628
00:37:03,544 --> 00:37:05,603
it is in conformance of the official plan, which is

629
00:37:05,643 --> 00:37:09,363
a consideration of 5124. It's a single family residence in

630
00:37:09,363 --> 00:37:13,043
a single family residence neighbourhood. The new official plan accommodates

631
00:37:13,544 --> 00:37:16,563
changes. And it's, you know, the zoning by - law

632
00:37:16,584 --> 00:37:19,123
backs that up. So I think it's appropriate, Mr. Chair.

633
00:37:19,123 --> 00:37:22,466
Thank you. Do you have a sector, Mr. Rowan. Thank

634
00:37:22,466 --> 00:37:25,426
you, Mr. Chairman. I'll second the motion. Discussion on the

635
00:37:25,527 --> 00:37:29,151
motion, Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm not going

636
00:37:29,151 --> 00:37:33,391
to support the motion. And I think that the not,

637
00:37:33,391 --> 00:37:35,951
if the drainage edition wasn't there, I'd be fine with

638
00:37:35,951 --> 00:37:40,078
it. No other issues with it. But I'm, what my

639
00:37:40,078 --> 00:37:43,598
concern is that it can't properly be dealt with. And

640
00:37:43,598 --> 00:37:46,878
then he has an approval in his hand that cannot

641
00:37:46,918 --> 00:37:52,099
be properly addressed. And I can see that there's some

642
00:37:52,099 --> 00:37:58,099
pretty extreme flooding there. And the applicants themselves, they've looked

643
00:37:58,099 --> 00:38:01,219
at everything else and they had no answer as to

644
00:38:01,259 --> 00:38:04,739
what they've looked at for the drainage to prepare for

645
00:38:04,779 --> 00:38:09,139
this hearing. And like no answers at all. And so

646
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,708
I think it's premature. And so I don't support the

647
00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:17,427
motion. Mr. Page. Thank you. I appreciate Mrs. Robinson's comments.

648
00:38:17,427 --> 00:38:20,867
Um, I took that into consideration. There's a catch base

649
00:38:20,867 --> 00:38:24,387
in there. Excuse me very close by that says that

650
00:38:24,408 --> 00:38:28,707
the city probably has, uh, some capability already of dealing

651
00:38:28,808 --> 00:38:32,547
with that water. The rest is quite frankly in Mississauga,

652
00:38:32,547 --> 00:38:35,907
Toronto. It's very common to have these kinds of issues.

653
00:38:35,907 --> 00:38:38,787
Uh, it's an engineering issue. And, uh, it's a condition

654
00:38:39,208 --> 00:38:41,267
from the city. I think if they thought it was

655
00:38:41,688 --> 00:38:43,427
irresolvable, I would take it. And we've seen it before

656
00:38:43,608 --> 00:38:46,147
that they would comment on that. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Yeah.

657
00:38:46,147 --> 00:38:47,827
I'm going to support the motion as well for those

658
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:50,547
same reasons. I think I'm not an expert on drainage.

659
00:38:50,547 --> 00:38:51,947
I'm not an expert on any of that stuff. I

660
00:38:51,947 --> 00:38:55,667
do have obviously some concerns with the drainage or the

661
00:38:55,928 --> 00:38:59,427
presentation that the neighbour gave. But again, we have professionals

662
00:38:59,427 --> 00:39:01,587
here that are going to review those. There's two cases

663
00:39:01,608 --> 00:39:04,547
where they have to be reviewed before they get their

664
00:39:04,587 --> 00:39:07,347
severance application certificate. And number two is when they apply

665
00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:10,627
for their building permit. As Mr. Page has said that

666
00:39:10,728 --> 00:39:14,947
typically if there's issues that they don't think can be

667
00:39:14,968 --> 00:39:17,107
resolved. They would have put a comment in there that

668
00:39:17,147 --> 00:39:19,267
they couldn't support the application. And that's not what we

669
00:39:19,288 --> 00:39:21,747
see. So, um, I think I am going to support

670
00:39:21,787 --> 00:39:24,627
the motion subject to the draft conditions. All those in

671
00:39:24,667 --> 00:39:29,516
favor. Any opposed. So your application has been approved by

672
00:39:29,556 --> 00:39:32,616
the committee. It's in accordance with the draft conditions. Um,

673
00:39:32,616 --> 00:39:35,996
that you presented today. Okay. Thank you. And as I

674
00:39:36,036 --> 00:39:38,636
said for the neighbours, if you don't have the number

675
00:39:39,777 --> 00:39:42,956
from development construction, just call the committee tomorrow. They'll give

676
00:39:42,956 --> 00:39:44,956
it to you. Then I would reach out to them.

677
00:39:44,956 --> 00:39:46,616
And they're going to have to do thorough review. And

678
00:39:46,616 --> 00:39:50,036
I think having the documentation that you've shown, I think

679
00:39:50,036 --> 00:39:51,916
is going to help them make that review. And at

680
00:39:51,916 --> 00:39:53,596
the end of the day, they may think that it's

681
00:39:53,636 --> 00:39:56,396
not possible to provide drainage. That isn't going to impact

682
00:39:56,497 --> 00:39:59,036
other properties. And then the severance won't be approved. So

683
00:39:59,537 --> 00:40:03,909
or won't, they won't get the certificate. Okay. Um, Community

684
00:40:03,949 --> 00:40:08,469
members, no, I think the next application is number A228

685
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:12,769
located at 5140 artist Lane. Is there anybody in the

686
00:40:12,769 --> 00:40:16,929
eyes as an interest in this application? Now Alexander, if

687
00:40:16,929 --> 00:40:18,489
you'd like to introduce the agent of the applicant place.

688
00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:20,809
Yes, Mr. Chair for this application. We have Ravi Patel.

689
00:40:20,849 --> 00:40:29,392
Ravi, you've been unmuted. You can go ahead. Robbie, you've

690
00:40:29,392 --> 00:40:30,192
been unmuted. You can go ahead.

691
00:40:40,928 --> 00:40:42,587
Can you hear me now? Yep, we can hear you.

692
00:40:43,568 --> 00:40:47,307
Hey, Mr. Chair, I really Patilla and designated by Jane

693
00:40:47,307 --> 00:40:51,147
Street. We are architect for the project. So Mr. Pat,

694
00:40:51,147 --> 00:40:53,227
you don't have any, uh, there's nobody in the audience

695
00:40:53,488 --> 00:40:56,507
nor as anybody online that wish to address committee on

696
00:40:56,528 --> 00:40:58,507
this application. So if you want to give us a

697
00:40:58,507 --> 00:41:01,306
brief presentation on what you're looking at doing, please. Uh,

698
00:41:01,487 --> 00:41:06,088
sure. So we have this SP application approved houses under

699
00:41:06,189 --> 00:41:10,248
construction. We had a previous manner whereon supplication regarding the

700
00:41:10,269 --> 00:41:12,728
setbacks from the DAC and the stairs to the greenland

701
00:41:12,768 --> 00:41:15,488
zone. It's more of a technicality. It was left over

702
00:41:15,749 --> 00:41:18,448
at the zoning application. Uh, which was dealt through the

703
00:41:18,448 --> 00:41:21,168
last minute variance application, but there were hundreds of number

704
00:41:22,469 --> 00:41:25,568
and somehow was just one unit was missed for that.

705
00:41:25,568 --> 00:41:27,568
So we are just back for that one unit that

706
00:41:27,608 --> 00:41:32,553
was left over. Community members, any questions or comments. Alexander

707
00:41:32,574 --> 00:41:35,273
Comments, please. The city has no objections to the application.

708
00:41:35,273 --> 00:41:36,713
The applicant may wish you defer the application to ensure

709
00:41:36,814 --> 00:41:40,553
all variances have been identified. Staff are recommending an amendment.

710
00:41:40,553 --> 00:41:42,073
It's sort of breaking the variance into two and just

711
00:41:42,073 --> 00:41:44,793
noting that there's also, um, a deck inclusive of stairs

712
00:41:45,054 --> 00:41:48,790
at the same setback. No written submissions were received, no

713
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:50,350
members of the public have pre - registered speak. Thank

714
00:41:50,350 --> 00:41:53,070
you. Mr. Patel, you satisfied to mend the application reflect

715
00:41:53,091 --> 00:41:57,101
planning staff's comments. Yes. Community members, that's why I do

716
00:41:57,141 --> 00:42:00,941
men. Application has been amended. Questions or comments? No. Ready

717
00:42:00,941 --> 00:42:03,581
for a motion then? Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

718
00:42:03,602 --> 00:42:07,181
I'll move approval of this application. It's a technical variance,

719
00:42:07,181 --> 00:42:09,901
really just something that got overlooked. And it meets the

720
00:42:09,941 --> 00:42:13,101
four tests. And as amended. And I think it's going

721
00:42:13,122 --> 00:42:14,861
through the process. So I don't think we need to

722
00:42:14,901 --> 00:42:18,034
make it subject to the plans. Thank you, Dove Seconder.

723
00:42:18,554 --> 00:42:22,205
Mr. Dale. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll second the motion.

724
00:42:22,975 --> 00:42:25,594
Committee members, any discussion on the motion? All those in

725
00:42:25,594 --> 00:42:30,856
favor. Any opposed? Sir, your application has been approved as

726
00:42:30,877 --> 00:42:33,496
amended. In general coins with the plants, did you say

727
00:42:33,496 --> 00:42:36,632
that? Didn't know. Okay. No, no, no. Um, so it's

728
00:42:36,632 --> 00:42:42,313
been approved as amended. Thank you, Mr. Have a good

729
00:42:42,313 --> 00:42:48,149
day. Next application is A235 located 878 Silver Birch Trails.

730
00:42:48,149 --> 00:42:49,349
Is there any in the aids has an interest in

731
00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:54,884
this application? Are you the neighbours? Okay. Alexander, if you

732
00:42:54,924 --> 00:42:56,724
want to introduce the age in the applicant, please. Yes.

733
00:42:56,764 --> 00:43:00,324
Mr. Chair, for this application, we have MUBARA Canazoe Mubarak.

734
00:43:00,324 --> 00:43:04,170
You've been unmuted. You can go ahead. Yes, thank you

735
00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:08,350
very much. Uh, dear Mr. Schirr and the Committee member.

736
00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:12,590
My name is Mubarakano Zoei from M. Kana's architecture. Have

737
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:17,496
you seen planning staff's comments. Yes. Yes. So they're suggesting

738
00:43:17,517 --> 00:43:20,725
to refusal. So I'm going to give you one or

739
00:43:20,725 --> 00:43:23,525
two options. You can either defer the application and sit

740
00:43:23,565 --> 00:43:27,679
down with planning staff. And look at, um, redesigning this.

741
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:29,759
I know it's been built, but that's not a reason

742
00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:33,439
for us to even approve the application. You can't ask

743
00:43:33,439 --> 00:43:37,999
for forgiveness. And or you can present today knowing that,

744
00:43:37,999 --> 00:43:40,859
um, staff's asking to refusal. I'm not supportive of. I'm

745
00:43:40,859 --> 00:43:42,959
not sure what the rest of the committee members think.

746
00:43:42,959 --> 00:43:44,799
Um, let me take a quick poll and then give

747
00:43:44,839 --> 00:43:46,479
you some more information. You can decide what you want

748
00:43:46,479 --> 00:43:48,639
to do, Mr. Page? Yeah, I'm not in favor. This

749
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,826
needs to be deferred, please. Mr. Rowan. Thank you, Mr.

750
00:43:51,866 --> 00:43:54,546
Chairman. I agree. It should be deferred. It's too wide.

751
00:43:54,546 --> 00:43:57,186
Too many cars across. And then the landscaping is the

752
00:43:57,226 --> 00:44:02,468
soft landscaping as this G minimal. Same thing. Too wide.

753
00:44:02,569 --> 00:44:06,900
Mr. Dale. Yeah, it's far too excessive. Mr. Ellis. Yes,

754
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,567
I can support this app. So sir, having known that,

755
00:44:10,567 --> 00:44:14,947
what do you want to do. Uh, yeah, I, um,

756
00:44:15,868 --> 00:44:19,927
let me know upset about, uh, the, uh, the refusal,

757
00:44:19,927 --> 00:44:23,607
but, uh, if the chance that we can, uh, we

758
00:44:23,607 --> 00:44:27,767
can talk about that to CTF Committee to get approval.

759
00:44:27,868 --> 00:44:30,067
You want to have a promo for driveway. Do you

760
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:31,367
want to defer it or do you want to present

761
00:44:31,468 --> 00:44:40,365
today and get refused. Um. I was deferring. Do you

762
00:44:40,365 --> 00:44:43,185
want to give us a date, please? Yes, Mr. Chair.

763
00:44:43,185 --> 00:44:45,105
Uh, I would suggest we could bring this back on

764
00:44:45,126 --> 00:44:49,265
the 19th of November. That would give the applicant until

765
00:44:49,286 --> 00:44:53,505
October 9th to submit any revisions and pay the deferral

766
00:44:53,545 --> 00:44:56,432
fee. So sir, are you able to come back on

767
00:44:56,472 --> 00:45:01,464
November the 19th. Is any close I did? You can

768
00:45:01,464 --> 00:45:05,264
have the, Mr. Chair. I would suggest we can leave

769
00:45:05,264 --> 00:45:07,104
this on the 19th if the applicant is ready to

770
00:45:07,144 --> 00:45:10,384
go sooner. Um, we can bring them back on a

771
00:45:10,424 --> 00:45:12,944
sooner date. That's not an issue. Um, but I would

772
00:45:12,944 --> 00:45:14,784
suggest leaving on the 19th just as like a sort

773
00:45:14,784 --> 00:45:16,384
of a backs up. And again, to any neighbours who

774
00:45:16,384 --> 00:45:17,904
are here, if you've been notified the first time or

775
00:45:17,904 --> 00:45:19,424
if you've written in, you'll get another notice for the

776
00:45:19,424 --> 00:45:21,424
next hearing date. So what we're going to do is

777
00:45:21,464 --> 00:45:23,584
we'll leave it on the 19th. If you're able to

778
00:45:24,885 --> 00:45:29,184
sit with staff and come up to some conclusion and

779
00:45:29,224 --> 00:45:31,024
come back to the committee earlier, we'll get you on

780
00:45:31,064 --> 00:45:33,744
an earlier agenda. If not, it's the 19th. My suggestion

781
00:45:33,765 --> 00:45:35,584
is to reach out to the planner. Uh, I don't

782
00:45:35,624 --> 00:45:36,944
know if you know who they are. If you don't

783
00:45:37,845 --> 00:45:40,944
call committee office tomorrow, they'll give you the planner's name.

784
00:45:40,944 --> 00:45:43,164
And, um, I would, um, yeah, look at, you know,

785
00:45:44,085 --> 00:45:45,904
you heard the committee. If you come back with the

786
00:45:46,085 --> 00:45:48,524
exact same application, you're going to get turned down. Um,

787
00:45:48,524 --> 00:45:51,344
I would sit with staff and see if the may

788
00:45:51,344 --> 00:45:53,504
still need a variance. But not to the same extent

789
00:45:53,504 --> 00:45:57,664
that you've applied for today. Okay. Committee member satisfied to

790
00:45:57,704 --> 00:46:00,764
defer. So application has been deferred for the neighbours. Um,

791
00:46:00,885 --> 00:46:03,084
if you want to sign the sheet on the, uh,

792
00:46:04,005 --> 00:46:06,944
on that table there, we'll make sure that we renodify

793
00:46:07,045 --> 00:46:10,064
it. It's for the 19th. If it's earlier, you'll get,

794
00:46:10,064 --> 00:46:11,964
if you've signed up, we'll give you a notice. And

795
00:46:11,964 --> 00:46:13,824
you're more than welcome to come back. Um, they're going

796
00:46:13,824 --> 00:46:15,824
to look at redesigning it. So we'll see what happens

797
00:46:16,165 --> 00:46:18,464
when they come back to the committee and what they,

798
00:46:18,464 --> 00:46:23,148
what they're going to do. Okay. So in 19th November

799
00:46:24,129 --> 00:46:28,550
19th. Okay. Okay. Committee members, so that's why I did

800
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:31,510
defer. But the hearing dates on November 19th, you got

801
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:32,950
to do your homework over the next two to three

802
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:34,870
weeks. So don't think you're just coming back on the

803
00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:38,630
19th with outdoing some stuff beforehand. So contact the committee

804
00:46:38,651 --> 00:46:41,510
office, get the planner's number and sit down with them

805
00:46:41,531 --> 00:46:44,050
and meet with them and then go through the, uh,

806
00:46:45,291 --> 00:46:47,430
you know, discussion and see where you end up. Okay.

807
00:46:48,263 --> 00:46:50,322
And through you, Mr. Chair, our office will send an

808
00:46:50,322 --> 00:46:52,642
email to the applicant either today or tomorrow with step

809
00:46:52,682 --> 00:46:54,802
by step instructions on what to do. Okay. Great. Thanks,

810
00:46:54,842 --> 00:46:58,793
Alexander. So application has been deferred to November the 19th.

811
00:46:58,793 --> 00:47:03,673
Uh, anybody that has come in later online 8237 at

812
00:47:04,014 --> 00:47:07,913
6660 Kennedy Road has been deferred. There is no date

813
00:47:07,913 --> 00:47:10,993
that, uh, has been set up for that one. So

814
00:47:10,993 --> 00:47:15,753
then the next application is A241 located at 7 Elmwood

815
00:47:15,854 --> 00:47:17,593
Avenue North. Is there anybody in the eye that says

816
00:47:17,614 --> 00:47:23,045
an interest in this application? Okay. Sir. We're going to

817
00:47:23,186 --> 00:47:25,245
have them present. And then you can come up and

818
00:47:25,285 --> 00:47:33,689
make your comments. Okay. Good afternoon.

819
00:47:35,476 --> 00:47:38,895
Good afternoon. Glenn Brohl from Glenn Schnarn Associates here representing

820
00:47:38,935 --> 00:47:42,612
the owners of 7 Elmwood Avenue north. Um, you do

821
00:47:42,652 --> 00:47:46,212
have favorable planning staff comments, but there are members in

822
00:47:46,212 --> 00:47:48,372
the audience. I think they may be some people online

823
00:47:48,713 --> 00:47:50,612
that wish to address committees. So if you can give

824
00:47:50,612 --> 00:47:53,652
us a fullsome presentation, please. I will. Thank you very

825
00:47:53,652 --> 00:47:57,572
much. Um, I have a presentation up. Um, just an

826
00:47:57,572 --> 00:48:03,252
opening remarks. We're here for a 25 unit purpose built

827
00:48:03,292 --> 00:48:07,206
rental building. Um, the owners of the property of partnered

828
00:48:07,246 --> 00:48:10,806
with a nonprofit housing provider. And the units that I'm

829
00:48:10,806 --> 00:48:12,966
going to talk about today have been designed to serve

830
00:48:13,147 --> 00:48:17,046
aging tenants, an older demographic who are seeking long -

831
00:48:17,046 --> 00:48:20,646
term housing stability on the lance. So there are four

832
00:48:20,686 --> 00:48:23,286
minor variances that I will walk through for you today.

833
00:48:24,898 --> 00:48:31,751
If we can go to the next slide. Next slide,

834
00:48:31,751 --> 00:48:38,778
please. Perfect. Uh, outlined in turquoise blue. Oops, we lost.

835
00:48:38,818 --> 00:48:42,058
Mr. Bro, sorry. Can you just maybe, um, pull your

836
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:44,618
mic up a little bit, just so that you can

837
00:48:44,658 --> 00:48:46,938
be heard a little bit better. Yeah. Sorry about that.

838
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:51,196
Is that better? Okay. And turquoise blue on the east

839
00:48:51,196 --> 00:48:53,916
side of Almwood Avenue just north of Lake Shore Road

840
00:48:55,297 --> 00:48:57,836
east, which is just east of here, Ontario. You'll see

841
00:48:58,097 --> 00:49:02,316
the property. It's, uh, about 0. 17 acres, a 50

842
00:49:02,337 --> 00:49:06,556
foot lot. Uh, that abuts a city of Mississaugan Municipal

843
00:49:06,577 --> 00:49:08,796
parking lot. Although it doesn't look like a parking lot

844
00:49:08,817 --> 00:49:11,836
at the moment, um, as it's being used for some

845
00:49:11,937 --> 00:49:14,663
construction. The next slide, please.

846
00:49:28,244 --> 00:49:30,303
I have a paper copy. I'm happy to walk through

847
00:49:30,724 --> 00:49:35,844
if that's, uh, if that's easier. Yeah. You know what

848
00:49:36,185 --> 00:49:38,404
guys, can you just switch it to the overhead, please?

849
00:49:39,625 --> 00:49:41,604
Mr. Bro, if you want to grab the other mic.

850
00:49:52,571 --> 00:49:56,710
Are located with the arrow, it shows that it's in

851
00:49:56,731 --> 00:50:01,270
a main, a mixed use designation within the poor credit

852
00:50:01,310 --> 00:50:08,326
plan. The lands are, again, aligned in turquoise. The main

853
00:50:08,427 --> 00:50:11,446
street neighbourhood. This is, uh, height schedule within the official

854
00:50:11,547 --> 00:50:15,766
plan that notes permission for land uses between two and

855
00:50:15,947 --> 00:50:22,046
four stories in height. The subject property is zoned C4.

856
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:27,117
- 66, which is a Main Street commercial zoning. The

857
00:50:27,157 --> 00:50:30,877
Main Street Commercial Zoning does allow for, uh, on apartment

858
00:50:30,917 --> 00:50:35,441
building to be located on these lands. And as I

859
00:50:35,481 --> 00:50:40,505
move into the individual minor variances. The first variance that's

860
00:50:40,545 --> 00:50:44,985
before you today is to vary the height permission in

861
00:50:45,006 --> 00:50:50,007
the C4 zoning. C4 zoning today allows for three stories

862
00:50:50,508 --> 00:50:54,381
and 12. 5 metres of height. The proposal is to

863
00:50:54,421 --> 00:50:57,341
stay within the 12. 5 metres of height, but add

864
00:50:57,362 --> 00:51:01,901
an additional story. It's a B4 stories underneath the 12.

865
00:51:02,002 --> 00:51:08,228
5 metre height limit. The second variance is the north

866
00:51:08,249 --> 00:51:11,188
property line. And that's on the left side of the

867
00:51:11,289 --> 00:51:17,337
drawing. It's a landscape buffer of 0. 9 metres. Where

868
00:51:17,358 --> 00:51:21,577
4. 5 metres is required. Now the point nine where

869
00:51:21,577 --> 00:51:25,817
my arrow is illustrating is showing where the, uh, actual

870
00:51:25,918 --> 00:51:31,137
limit of the landscape buffer is. It actually narrows, as

871
00:51:31,137 --> 00:51:34,057
you move in further to the site. We have a

872
00:51:34,097 --> 00:51:37,601
0. 9 located in this area. If we were to

873
00:51:37,601 --> 00:51:41,361
look at the organisation of the site, we have vehicular

874
00:51:41,382 --> 00:51:44,881
access off of Elmoid and the building that fronts Elmwood.

875
00:51:46,248 --> 00:51:51,808
The entrance driveway into access three parking spaces. Means there's

876
00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:56,288
only so much land left to accommodate the landscape buffer.

877
00:51:56,288 --> 00:52:00,448
As you move beyond the parking spaces, there is areas

878
00:52:00,448 --> 00:52:03,168
for bikes to be parked. And then there's a 4.

879
00:52:03,189 --> 00:52:06,848
7 metre setback between the property line and the building.

880
00:52:06,848 --> 00:52:10,848
That's not all landscape buffer. It's actually amenity area and

881
00:52:10,888 --> 00:52:18,083
a combination of planting and hard surface material. The 3rd

882
00:52:18,104 --> 00:52:23,523
minor variants is an adjustment to the, uh, accessible parking

883
00:52:23,544 --> 00:52:26,403
spaces. Committee would be aware the type A and a

884
00:52:26,403 --> 00:52:31,085
type B type of parking to accommodate accessible. Um, access

885
00:52:31,266 --> 00:52:35,821
into spaces. Rather than, uh, well, the proposal is for

886
00:52:35,842 --> 00:52:39,661
a total of one type B parking space, which is

887
00:52:39,762 --> 00:52:43,581
essentially 2. 4 metres wide with a 1. 5 metre

888
00:52:43,922 --> 00:52:49,729
IL access for access into the handicap parking space. This

889
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:53,569
will allow two additional regular spaces to be accommodated on

890
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:57,809
the site. Um, it's frankly not a variance that we

891
00:52:58,230 --> 00:53:01,329
ask for often, but the way that this site lays

892
00:53:01,329 --> 00:53:04,449
out, it does provide for an accessible parking space and

893
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:08,943
gives the opportunity for two additional spaces. If the accommodation

894
00:53:08,964 --> 00:53:12,943
was to meet the one type A parking space, then

895
00:53:12,943 --> 00:53:15,963
it could be accommodated, but there'd be one less, uh,

896
00:53:16,084 --> 00:53:19,263
additional space on the surface. So, uh, we have worked

897
00:53:19,364 --> 00:53:23,263
with staff for the, I'd say slightly unusual ask for

898
00:53:23,764 --> 00:53:27,343
an adjustment to the accessible spaces. Um, but you'll see

899
00:53:27,383 --> 00:53:29,903
that it is being supported by staff. And we'd ask

900
00:53:29,924 --> 00:53:36,873
for your approval on that as well. The final minor

901
00:53:36,873 --> 00:53:40,553
variants is with respect to the Main Street commercial zoning

902
00:53:41,374 --> 00:53:45,593
anticipates commercial on a ground floor with residential units up

903
00:53:45,694 --> 00:53:49,913
above. It then asks that the residential component of the

904
00:53:50,174 --> 00:53:53,913
ground floor be minimized, but doesn't occupy all of the

905
00:53:54,014 --> 00:53:57,993
frontage, given that this is an apartment building and there

906
00:53:57,993 --> 00:54:04,873
is no commercial. It's logical to think that, uh, for

907
00:54:04,894 --> 00:54:08,473
residential. We've worked with zoning to understand the interpretation of

908
00:54:08,513 --> 00:54:12,473
the exact percentage. And the final variance is to ask

909
00:54:12,574 --> 00:54:16,473
for 46 percent of the frontage to be accommodating the

910
00:54:16,574 --> 00:54:20,393
front entrance to the building rather than the 25 percent

911
00:54:20,414 --> 00:54:24,089
that would be set. We do believe that these four

912
00:54:24,350 --> 00:54:28,809
variances are minor in nature. They will facilitate this application

913
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:32,169
being continued through the site plant approval process. There have

914
00:54:32,169 --> 00:54:36,489
been multiple submissions that have been made. And, uh, with

915
00:54:36,529 --> 00:54:40,249
the approval of these variances, they can move to site

916
00:54:40,289 --> 00:54:44,649
plant approval. The building permit is, uh, underway in process.

917
00:54:45,029 --> 00:54:47,648
Uh, we think the location is appropriate for this type

918
00:54:47,669 --> 00:54:53,648
of use. It's 25 units. And it's appropriate in this

919
00:54:53,669 --> 00:54:57,728
location. So with that, I'd ask for your approval today.

920
00:54:57,728 --> 00:55:01,968
And of course, happy to answer, he questions. Thanks, Mr.

921
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:05,758
Bolt. Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Mr. Bro, I know

922
00:55:05,798 --> 00:55:08,158
that staff confirms that the 12 and a half metres

923
00:55:08,259 --> 00:55:12,478
meets a zoning bylaw. No variances required. Um, but maybe

924
00:55:12,518 --> 00:55:16,638
a bit of clarification for the benefit of, uh, neighbours.

925
00:55:16,638 --> 00:55:19,998
Uh, what's the required setback from that North property line

926
00:55:20,038 --> 00:55:24,084
to the building. Do you know. Four and a half

927
00:55:24,124 --> 00:55:26,324
metres. Four and a half and you're giving them what?

928
00:55:26,665 --> 00:55:30,519
4. 7. Thank you very much. Mr. Ellis, is your

929
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:32,759
hand up or was that from before? Yes, it is.

930
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:35,319
That was just how many parking spaces are there in

931
00:55:35,319 --> 00:55:39,747
total for this facility. I think the three parking spaces

932
00:55:39,768 --> 00:55:45,952
in total. My understanding, uh, Stephen, if I'm not mistaken,

933
00:55:45,952 --> 00:55:49,072
I think they don't require any parking here. They, do

934
00:55:49,112 --> 00:55:52,192
they fall within that catch basin of massive transit hubs?

935
00:55:52,613 --> 00:55:55,632
No, it's not that they fall within the catch basin

936
00:55:55,672 --> 00:55:58,432
of the of the transit hub per se. It said,

937
00:55:58,432 --> 00:56:01,072
well, we're creating affordable housing units. They have relief with

938
00:56:01,112 --> 00:56:04,032
regards to the parking requirements. So, so technically they do

939
00:56:04,072 --> 00:56:06,752
not require any parking spaces if they wanted to do

940
00:56:06,752 --> 00:56:09,392
that. Not because of the transit, but because of the

941
00:56:09,432 --> 00:56:13,940
affordable housing, that is correct. That is correct. Okay. Committee

942
00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:17,775
members, any other questions or comments. Um, Mr. Bro, just

943
00:56:17,796 --> 00:56:21,055
to confirm that the height at 12 and a half,

944
00:56:21,055 --> 00:56:24,335
you're allowed. And I guess, um, because it's on commercial,

945
00:56:24,335 --> 00:56:26,975
they used to, three stories was because they wanted the

946
00:56:27,156 --> 00:56:29,615
first story to be a little bit taller for commercial.

947
00:56:29,615 --> 00:56:32,029
And then two above that. Correct? That's right. Does this

948
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:35,285
have a, uh, does this building have a basement. When

949
00:56:35,285 --> 00:56:36,645
I was looking at the floor plan, I didn't see

950
00:56:36,685 --> 00:56:40,605
any. So there's some stuff that's on the basement, or

951
00:56:40,605 --> 00:56:42,245
sorry, on the 1st flow that I guess you could

952
00:56:42,906 --> 00:56:46,737
theoretically put on the basement. And go to three stories

953
00:56:46,998 --> 00:56:50,577
and create more, um, housing units on the first floor,

954
00:56:50,577 --> 00:56:52,497
which you're really not going to change the mix of

955
00:56:52,537 --> 00:56:54,737
the housing units that you're looking for. Like the enough

956
00:56:54,838 --> 00:56:58,897
here, uh, on your square footage that you're still able

957
00:56:58,897 --> 00:57:04,713
to get into that, uh, 20 unit amount. Yeah. There

958
00:57:04,753 --> 00:57:07,033
actually is a residential unit on that first floor as

959
00:57:07,033 --> 00:57:11,513
well. And yeah, the 25 units, um, fit on this

960
00:57:11,534 --> 00:57:16,073
property makes sense, putting other facilities, if you will, in

961
00:57:16,094 --> 00:57:19,993
the lower level. Um, certainly parking wouldn't work in the

962
00:57:19,993 --> 00:57:24,393
lower level because the room to have, uh, an underground,

963
00:57:24,393 --> 00:57:27,833
um, ramp to get there. Um, this was the best

964
00:57:28,094 --> 00:57:31,273
layout to have slab on grade, if you will. And

965
00:57:31,273 --> 00:57:33,833
then the four stories above. And, you know, the main

966
00:57:33,873 --> 00:57:38,633
street commercial properties, and it's, it's evident throughout the city

967
00:57:38,814 --> 00:57:42,473
and all the villages, if you will. It's, it's the

968
00:57:42,473 --> 00:57:45,673
idea of having 12. 5 metres, you're right. It's, it's

969
00:57:45,694 --> 00:57:48,953
a higher commercial ground floor level, but it could be

970
00:57:49,134 --> 00:57:53,433
higher office on the next levels. Um, this seems to

971
00:57:53,433 --> 00:57:57,753
be, um, appropriate when you're dealing with residential to have

972
00:57:57,854 --> 00:58:01,593
ceilings that aren't super high to fit that. But a

973
00:58:01,593 --> 00:58:04,393
logical size that fits within the 12 and a half

974
00:58:04,414 --> 00:58:07,193
metres. And I think there's a, is a bit of

975
00:58:07,233 --> 00:58:10,793
a conflict between what the official plan suggests for the

976
00:58:10,814 --> 00:58:12,793
Main Street commercial, which actually does allow you to go

977
00:58:12,833 --> 00:58:15,833
up to four stories. And the C4 zoning that would

978
00:58:15,873 --> 00:58:19,193
suggest its three stories. So we're just trying to sort

979
00:58:19,193 --> 00:58:23,078
of marry the two together. Thank you. Committee members, any

980
00:58:23,078 --> 00:58:26,618
questions? If not, Alexander Comments, please. The city is no

981
00:58:26,658 --> 00:58:29,578
objections to the application as amended. Um, zoning Sephard just

982
00:58:29,578 --> 00:58:31,898
noting that variants 3 should actually be reversed. One type

983
00:58:31,919 --> 00:58:34,378
of B is being provided. Whereas one type A is

984
00:58:34,418 --> 00:58:38,818
required. It was circulated the other way around. Six letters

985
00:58:38,858 --> 00:58:41,138
of concern, five letters of objection were received. Three members

986
00:58:41,178 --> 00:58:45,058
of the public have preregistered to speak. Mr. Bro, you're

987
00:58:46,439 --> 00:58:50,098
wishing to amend the applications planning staff's comments with regards

988
00:58:50,098 --> 00:58:53,538
to the, um, handicap parking? Yes, we are. Committee member

989
00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:56,098
satisfied domain. So application has been amended. If you want

990
00:58:56,098 --> 00:58:57,458
to have a seat for a moment, I know the

991
00:58:57,458 --> 00:59:00,978
neighbours that may wish to address committee. Funding neighbours wish

992
00:59:00,978 --> 00:59:02,498
to address committee. Please just come up. Give us your

993
00:59:02,498 --> 00:59:04,818
name, your address and any concerns that you may have.

994
00:59:15,415 --> 00:59:18,466
Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. My name is David Hammond.

995
00:59:18,466 --> 00:59:24,607
I live at 17 Elamod Avenue North. My first concern

996
00:59:24,647 --> 00:59:32,579
is the, uh. It's already zoned. For commercial. C. 466.

997
00:59:36,494 --> 00:59:39,993
The first issue I'm concerned about is that increasing it

998
00:59:40,033 --> 00:59:43,273
from three stories to four stories in the same height.

999
00:59:44,407 --> 00:59:49,861
Obviously you're losing ceiling space. The other thing I'm concerned

1000
00:59:49,901 --> 00:59:58,034
about is the depths of the landscape buffer. It's.

1001
00:59:58,768 --> 01:00:07,690
Approximately. I'm old school. At three feet. Versus 14

1002
01:00:08,191 --> 01:00:11,370
feet. That's quite a difference. I don't think that's a

1003
01:00:11,370 --> 01:00:21,327
minor variance. Um, with regard to the parking. I

1004
01:00:21,348 --> 01:00:24,527
can see why they might want three parking spots versus

1005
01:00:24,567 --> 01:00:29,879
the one. I'm not too objecting on that one. The

1006
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:38,421
streetwall story. They're wanting to, first of all.

1007
01:00:40,827 --> 01:00:44,486
It's, the first story is required at 25 percent by

1008
01:00:44,486 --> 01:00:47,846
the bylaw. They want to increase it to 46 percent.

1009
01:00:48,587 --> 01:00:53,235
That's a pretty narrow hundred percent increase. I'm not in

1010
01:00:53,235 --> 01:01:03,175
agreement with that one. An apartment building in the area,

1011
01:01:03,175 --> 01:01:06,753
there is none. In the immediate area. This would be

1012
01:01:07,014 --> 01:01:11,739
definitely setting a precedent. The lot is 50 feet by

1013
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,670
150. That lot is the only one that's 150 feet

1014
01:01:16,691 --> 01:01:25,973
on the street. The 25

1015
01:01:25,994 --> 01:01:31,186
units, uh, on a single lot. It's a little bit

1016
01:01:31,607 --> 01:01:34,641
excessive. There's lots only 50 feet wide.

1017
01:01:42,092 --> 01:01:44,071
Please bear with me. I'm just looking at my notes.

1018
01:01:48,673 --> 01:01:51,772
With regard to all these things I commented on. I

1019
01:01:51,873 --> 01:01:54,412
don't agree that any of them are what you would

1020
01:01:54,452 --> 01:02:03,184
call a minor variance. They're excessive. There already is no

1021
01:02:03,205 --> 01:02:11,027
parking on Elamout Avenue. So where would, uh, visitors park,

1022
01:02:11,027 --> 01:02:19,751
where would delivers take place. Caregivers, support workers, taxis. And

1023
01:02:19,932 --> 01:02:28,935
moving trucks, waste collection. All these kinds of things. And

1024
01:02:29,036 --> 01:02:33,335
any emergency that would arise as a result of 25

1025
01:02:33,356 --> 01:02:40,223
units. On one piece of property. It's more or less,

1026
01:02:40,223 --> 01:02:44,943
in my opinion. And I understand that other people have

1027
01:02:44,983 --> 01:02:51,423
submitted similar things. 25 units is not appropriate.

1028
01:02:55,625 --> 01:02:58,804
There is also a concern that right across the street.

1029
01:02:59,826 --> 01:03:03,325
On the west side of Ellenwood. There is a new

1030
01:03:03,365 --> 01:03:07,923
proposal. Being put in place. I'm not sure the story

1031
01:03:08,824 --> 01:03:14,818
of the number of stories because it's indescription. It's not,

1032
01:03:14,818 --> 01:03:16,298
it has not been decided of what they're going to

1033
01:03:16,359 --> 01:03:23,417
do. And then I ask the committee to respectfully decline

1034
01:03:23,438 --> 01:03:30,337
this. Application as proposed today. I have no objection. To

1035
01:03:31,478 --> 01:03:35,017
a senior facility. I think it's a good idea. For

1036
01:03:35,118 --> 01:03:39,751
these types of people. As I said before, it's setting

1037
01:03:39,932 --> 01:03:44,712
a precedent in the area. That is not existing. And

1038
01:03:45,933 --> 01:03:49,814
you ask the question of the other fella. About a

1039
01:03:49,814 --> 01:03:56,171
basement. There's no basement. Um. I don't quite understand how

1040
01:03:56,352 --> 01:04:00,251
they would be able to support a four story building.

1041
01:04:00,988 --> 01:04:06,182
With no basement. Is the ground stable enough? Has that

1042
01:04:06,182 --> 01:04:08,022
been taken? Well, those are, those are, those are things

1043
01:04:08,062 --> 01:04:11,222
I'll have to get past that the building permit stage.

1044
01:04:11,222 --> 01:04:13,542
That's got nothing to do with us. But just to

1045
01:04:13,542 --> 01:04:16,342
address some of your points, first of all, the 25

1046
01:04:16,363 --> 01:04:18,982
units are not asking for, uh, they're not here for

1047
01:04:19,403 --> 01:04:21,382
approval for that. They're allowed to do that as of

1048
01:04:21,382 --> 01:04:25,142
right. Um, as far as the setback, like when you,

1049
01:04:25,142 --> 01:04:29,062
you're talking about percentage points, percentage numbers, from a committee

1050
01:04:29,163 --> 01:04:32,902
perspective, when we, when we adjudicate an application, it's the

1051
01:04:32,942 --> 01:04:35,862
intent of the bylaw, um, so when you look at

1052
01:04:35,902 --> 01:04:38,182
this, because this is on commercial, we have to look

1053
01:04:38,182 --> 01:04:40,222
at what the intent of the bylight four and a

1054
01:04:40,222 --> 01:04:43,222
half metre setback was. So if this was more of

1055
01:04:43,262 --> 01:04:44,902
an office building, you'd want that four and a half

1056
01:04:45,083 --> 01:04:47,862
metre setback because you've got surface parking, et cetera, up

1057
01:04:47,883 --> 01:04:52,022
against residential houses, or you want sight lines at corners

1058
01:04:52,683 --> 01:04:55,222
and so forth, where we don't have that here. The

1059
01:04:55,262 --> 01:04:57,582
other thing too is you're right. Across the street, I

1060
01:04:57,582 --> 01:04:59,542
think it's a 12 or 15 story building that's going

1061
01:04:59,542 --> 01:05:05,742
on. Um, right here, you've got the LCBO, I think

1062
01:05:05,742 --> 01:05:09,062
the house is commercial. And so is the parking lot

1063
01:05:09,163 --> 01:05:13,142
that the city owns at some point, um, sometimes you've

1064
01:05:13,142 --> 01:05:15,942
got to look at what could happen versus what is

1065
01:05:15,942 --> 01:05:20,748
happening. Someone could accumulate those properties and build a massive

1066
01:05:20,929 --> 01:05:25,148
building there. You know, this has taken away from that.

1067
01:05:25,148 --> 01:05:28,908
Um, it is affordable housing that's needed. It's for seniors.

1068
01:05:28,908 --> 01:05:30,588
Um, and so at the end of the day, as

1069
01:05:30,609 --> 01:05:33,388
a committee, we need to look at, um, the variances

1070
01:05:33,569 --> 01:05:36,588
that are requested adjudicate them versus the four tests and

1071
01:05:36,588 --> 01:05:39,388
then make a decision based on that. And, um, so

1072
01:05:39,428 --> 01:05:40,748
sometimes at the end of the day, when you look

1073
01:05:40,748 --> 01:05:43,748
at something like this, if it does go through, it

1074
01:05:43,748 --> 01:05:46,013
almost. In the long run can create a better situation

1075
01:05:46,194 --> 01:05:48,573
for the neighbourhood because you're not going to have someone

1076
01:05:48,914 --> 01:05:52,973
the ability to build a massive building using this property

1077
01:05:53,013 --> 01:05:55,293
as well. Because now you've got like a transition zone

1078
01:05:56,034 --> 01:05:58,173
if the other two properties ever get developed. So those

1079
01:05:58,213 --> 01:05:59,933
are things that we, you know, we'll have to look

1080
01:05:59,973 --> 01:06:03,533
at. But, uh, we'll take those comments into consideration your

1081
01:06:03,533 --> 01:06:06,093
comments into consideration. I think Mr. Page has a question

1082
01:06:06,114 --> 01:06:09,853
for you, Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. I initially want

1083
01:06:09,853 --> 01:06:12,173
to just first all what the proposal was. I thought

1084
01:06:12,173 --> 01:06:15,213
about this street wall as well. Um, I think the

1085
01:06:15,234 --> 01:06:18,093
intent of that was for much larger buildings and not

1086
01:06:18,093 --> 01:06:19,893
have the mass and go all the way down. So

1087
01:06:20,034 --> 01:06:22,813
just for me, IRV strikes you just for me. It's

1088
01:06:22,813 --> 01:06:25,853
a very narrow building. Um, so I think that kind

1089
01:06:25,853 --> 01:06:28,573
of helped, but I had a similar thought, I think,

1090
01:06:28,573 --> 01:06:30,733
to you as well. But I resolved it with it.

1091
01:06:30,733 --> 01:06:32,493
That's just not a very wide building. Thank you, Mr.

1092
01:06:32,533 --> 01:06:38,555
Chair. Mediums, any other questions or comments. Thank you, sir.

1093
01:06:38,555 --> 01:06:40,875
We appreciate your comments. We'll take those into consideration when

1094
01:06:40,875 --> 01:06:43,115
we adjudicate the application. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for

1095
01:06:43,115 --> 01:06:45,755
your time. Thank you. Is there anybody else that wishes

1096
01:06:45,755 --> 01:06:48,395
to address committee on this application? Yeah. If so, please

1097
01:06:48,435 --> 01:06:50,315
come forward. Just give us your name and address and

1098
01:06:50,315 --> 01:07:00,304
comments, please. Hi, Mary

1099
01:07:00,304 --> 01:07:04,392
Simpson with the town of Port Credit. Good afternoon. And

1100
01:07:04,392 --> 01:07:09,352
I live at 61 Wesley Avenue import credit. Um, I

1101
01:07:09,352 --> 01:07:11,592
just, I don't want to speak against the residents because

1102
01:07:11,933 --> 01:07:16,152
they live with this. And that particular enclave of homes

1103
01:07:16,152 --> 01:07:21,312
has been absolutely inundated with oversized, in full development. So

1104
01:07:21,533 --> 01:07:26,232
I respect their concerns and frustration. We attended a meeting.

1105
01:07:26,232 --> 01:07:27,992
We were invited to attend a meeting that was held

1106
01:07:28,032 --> 01:07:32,392
by Andwell. Who is the operator back in June, 2025?

1107
01:07:32,392 --> 01:07:36,772
And that included Francia Noni. It included the BIA. And

1108
01:07:36,772 --> 01:07:40,792
Michael Spatziani, the architect. And we were, they, they presented

1109
01:07:40,973 --> 01:07:43,752
to us, uh, and asked for feedback. And then it

1110
01:07:43,752 --> 01:07:46,312
went quiet. And a couple of weeks ago, we were

1111
01:07:46,333 --> 01:07:49,432
invited to attend an update meeting. And I think a

1112
01:07:49,432 --> 01:07:51,912
lot of the issues that we had raised at the

1113
01:07:51,952 --> 01:07:55,912
time were addressed. And for us, a big issue specifically

1114
01:07:55,952 --> 01:07:58,872
in that area is the permeability. We've got so much

1115
01:07:59,133 --> 01:08:03,592
flooding and poor drainage in our area in South Mississauga

1116
01:08:04,013 --> 01:08:06,312
that have something else come in that's on a large

1117
01:08:06,573 --> 01:08:11,596
footprint would just. Would just tip the boat. It's, it's

1118
01:08:11,617 --> 01:08:16,248
a lot. What they've brought is a buffer zone that

1119
01:08:16,349 --> 01:08:20,808
has permeability. Um, the parking, we're not as concerned about

1120
01:08:21,069 --> 01:08:23,128
you have a parking lot in front of it. People

1121
01:08:23,549 --> 01:08:26,408
on a limited income aren't looking for a place to

1122
01:08:26,448 --> 01:08:29,050
park their car. They will have guests. They will have

1123
01:08:29,231 --> 01:08:32,410
caregivers. There is a parking lot that's available for it

1124
01:08:32,431 --> 01:08:36,970
plus the two parking spaces. Um, there is a buffer.

1125
01:08:36,970 --> 01:08:39,370
There's a buffer. Um, they had shown us that the

1126
01:08:39,410 --> 01:08:42,010
windows at the back of the, of the building were

1127
01:08:42,031 --> 01:08:46,650
smaller for more privacy on, on yards in the back.

1128
01:08:46,650 --> 01:08:50,490
That's not privacy. Trees are privacy and they have, they

1129
01:08:50,591 --> 01:08:54,170
have introduced trees that they will be maintaining to create

1130
01:08:54,271 --> 01:08:57,850
a natural buffer. Um, the height is in line with

1131
01:08:57,890 --> 01:09:01,610
what the maximum is. For once we're not seeing something

1132
01:09:01,631 --> 01:09:05,690
that's being overbuilt. We're not looking at, um, the planet

1133
01:09:05,711 --> 01:09:08,570
organic site directly across the street that's coming in at

1134
01:09:08,610 --> 01:09:12,870
12 stories, which is insanity for an established neighbourhood. Um,

1135
01:09:13,471 --> 01:09:16,730
so in that regard, we support what they're trying to

1136
01:09:16,770 --> 01:09:21,370
do. Um, the need is there. The lack of need

1137
01:09:21,391 --> 01:09:25,450
for parking for once is there. And the ability for

1138
01:09:25,711 --> 01:09:30,650
the lands around it to be populated with trees, green

1139
01:09:30,650 --> 01:09:36,070
space, amenity space and the permeable pavers, um, is, is,

1140
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:38,170
is a win in our books. Now, like I said,

1141
01:09:38,170 --> 01:09:41,210
I don't want to detract the neighbor's live beside it.

1142
01:09:41,210 --> 01:09:43,690
And we all know what happens when you're sitting beside

1143
01:09:43,791 --> 01:09:47,130
or backing onto a high rise building that's being parachuted

1144
01:09:47,130 --> 01:09:50,410
in. And we're, poor credit is under siege in that

1145
01:09:50,591 --> 01:09:57,130
regard. Um, so people are understandably, um, concerned. It's quality

1146
01:09:57,130 --> 01:09:59,850
of life. And I think in this instance, I think

1147
01:09:59,951 --> 01:10:02,070
it can be done. And as you say, you've got

1148
01:10:02,191 --> 01:10:05,130
a parking lot in front, an LCBO that may or

1149
01:10:05,170 --> 01:10:08,970
may not last. And that site is very vulnerable to

1150
01:10:09,071 --> 01:10:11,530
having a lot more come in. So we, we do

1151
01:10:11,631 --> 01:10:16,790
support this. Um, again, it's the neighbours will speak. Um,

1152
01:10:17,711 --> 01:10:20,650
but from what we've seen and the actions taken to

1153
01:10:20,690 --> 01:10:24,410
try and mediate the impact, uh, we were impressed and

1154
01:10:24,450 --> 01:10:26,890
we were pleased to see that, uh, steps were taken.

1155
01:10:27,741 --> 01:10:29,640
Well, thank you, Mr. Simpson. That means a lot because

1156
01:10:29,661 --> 01:10:32,840
I know how involved yarn in the community and you

1157
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,720
have been for many years and involved in poor credit

1158
01:10:35,901 --> 01:10:38,040
and dealing with a lot of these redevelopments and so

1159
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:42,020
forth. So it's, it's, um, it's your comments are, you

1160
01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:45,800
know, will be taken and will be taken into consideration

1161
01:10:46,221 --> 01:10:49,960
and are meaningful because you have experienced the different many

1162
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,200
things that have happened in part credit over the years.

1163
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,840
Um, sorry, do you have any questions for the, no,

1164
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,909
Steven, did you want to make a comment. Thanks, Mr.

1165
01:10:57,949 --> 01:11:00,309
Chair. Maybe just to highlight, I know the comments already

1166
01:11:00,490 --> 01:11:03,749
with regards to concerns with regarding grading and drainage and

1167
01:11:03,789 --> 01:11:06,389
so far with regards to the project. I just want

1168
01:11:06,389 --> 01:11:09,589
to direct the committee's attention to the appendices with the

1169
01:11:09,610 --> 01:11:16,629
report where development engineering has specifically stated that their concerns

1170
01:11:16,890 --> 01:11:19,509
regarding this project will be handled through the site plant

1171
01:11:19,509 --> 01:11:21,349
approval process. So it's not like it's not being heard

1172
01:11:21,610 --> 01:11:25,349
or noticed. It's, it is being handled through a separate

1173
01:11:25,450 --> 01:11:29,080
process to this. Great. Thanks, Steven. Um, is there anybody

1174
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,498
else in the audience that wishes address committee. No, Alexander,

1175
01:11:33,498 --> 01:11:36,863
the one online that wishes to address committee. Yes, Mr.

1176
01:11:37,124 --> 01:11:41,363
Chair. We have David Bailey online. David, you've been unmuted.

1177
01:11:41,363 --> 01:11:46,060
You can go ahead. Right. Oh. Bye bye. Hello, Mr.

1178
01:11:46,081 --> 01:11:55,039
Bailey. Mr. Bailey. Yeah. Hold on. I'm holding.

1179
01:11:57,252 --> 01:12:00,591
It. That's okay. My apologies. No, no problem. Don't worry.

1180
01:12:00,631 --> 01:12:03,631
Hey, listen stuff happens. Um, I'm not sure if you've

1181
01:12:03,631 --> 01:12:05,551
heard some of the comments that were made. So just

1182
01:12:05,591 --> 01:12:08,351
give us your address. And then just any new comments

1183
01:12:08,532 --> 01:12:11,391
that maybe weren't covered by the residents. That'd be greatly

1184
01:12:11,431 --> 01:12:17,129
appreciated. Thank you. Uh, good afternoon, share. And Committee members,

1185
01:12:17,129 --> 01:12:19,929
my apologies for my entrance. I had a, I had

1186
01:12:19,929 --> 01:12:22,729
a call right at the time that, uh, I knew

1187
01:12:22,769 --> 01:12:26,169
my name would likely be called, uh, like Ms. Simpson.

1188
01:12:26,169 --> 01:12:29,985
I am with top town of Poor Credit. I have

1189
01:12:29,985 --> 01:12:35,585
been listening carefully to the, uh, residents comments and to

1190
01:12:35,625 --> 01:12:39,505
Ms. Simpsons. I concur with Ms. Simpson's views. Uh, and,

1191
01:12:39,505 --> 01:12:41,425
uh, I have also spoken with a number of the

1192
01:12:41,606 --> 01:12:44,225
residents. So, uh, at this time, I'm going to thank

1193
01:12:44,225 --> 01:12:49,425
you for calling me and also, uh, your indulgence. And,

1194
01:12:49,425 --> 01:12:52,145
uh, I will, uh, move past any questions at this

1195
01:12:52,145 --> 01:12:55,826
time. Thank you very much. Thanks, Mr. Bailey. Guess well,

1196
01:12:55,866 --> 01:12:57,946
if you have any questions, I think he's gone. So

1197
01:12:58,647 --> 01:13:05,876
that's anybody else, Alexander. Through you, Mr. Chair, we did

1198
01:13:05,876 --> 01:13:10,676
have one other name registered here. Um, but I don't

1199
01:13:10,697 --> 01:13:13,316
see them online. I'm not sure if the audience that

1200
01:13:13,417 --> 01:13:17,476
wanted to speak on this application, but they don't appear

1201
01:13:17,476 --> 01:13:19,956
to be online. I'll ask again. Is there anybody in

1202
01:13:19,956 --> 01:13:24,356
the audience that has an interest in application A241 located

1203
01:13:24,377 --> 01:13:32,620
at seven Elwood Avenue. No. Mr. Brawl. Any comments. Last

1204
01:13:32,660 --> 01:13:37,075
parting words. Um, I think, and I'd appreciate the resident

1205
01:13:37,075 --> 01:13:40,355
coming out speaking to the matter and the, the percentage

1206
01:13:40,395 --> 01:13:46,275
of variances. And I do think Mr. Page, you outlined

1207
01:13:46,275 --> 01:13:48,755
the width of the entrance. And it is an arrow

1208
01:13:48,755 --> 01:13:51,395
building in order for us to comply to the 25

1209
01:13:51,416 --> 01:13:53,795
percent. We'd actually be taking a window out of the

1210
01:13:53,816 --> 01:13:56,675
front. And I think we want to portray a residential

1211
01:13:56,856 --> 01:14:00,835
character. So the 46 percent, I think hopefully the resident

1212
01:14:00,875 --> 01:14:03,635
we'll see when it's built, it is a logical entrance.

1213
01:14:04,276 --> 01:14:07,455
Um, and I get the depth of the buffer looks

1214
01:14:07,455 --> 01:14:11,135
like three feet instead of 15 feet, it is a

1215
01:14:11,175 --> 01:14:13,855
portion of that. We're trying to plant it, but we're

1216
01:14:13,895 --> 01:14:17,375
also trying to provide an amenity area so that it's

1217
01:14:17,375 --> 01:14:21,215
used for somebody to sit outside. Um, so while it

1218
01:14:21,215 --> 01:14:23,935
looks like the entire buffer is being removed, it's actually

1219
01:14:24,036 --> 01:14:28,175
part hard and part soft, uh, soft skate. So I'm

1220
01:14:28,196 --> 01:14:33,375
hopeful that, um, this type of, uh, development is we're

1221
01:14:33,375 --> 01:14:35,855
hearing it is needed in the community. We hope you

1222
01:14:35,855 --> 01:14:38,895
see favor in the application. Uh, I think it's worth

1223
01:14:39,236 --> 01:14:43,855
mentioning about drainage. Drainages obviously a concern that's raised all

1224
01:14:43,895 --> 01:14:46,975
the time. We have looked at pre - development flows

1225
01:14:47,156 --> 01:14:50,895
post development flows. There is a storage facility in the

1226
01:14:51,076 --> 01:14:56,095
underground of this site that will accommodate drainage. And that

1227
01:14:56,135 --> 01:14:59,855
can actually be used for irrigation on the property. So,

1228
01:14:59,855 --> 01:15:05,215
um, as planning and development engineering or reviewing the application,

1229
01:15:05,215 --> 01:15:07,135
those are the types of things that are being incorporated

1230
01:15:07,236 --> 01:15:11,537
into the plan to protect the community. So with that,

1231
01:15:11,537 --> 01:15:13,857
um, I'm happy to answer any other questions, but I

1232
01:15:13,857 --> 01:15:17,857
hope, uh, that you see this application in a favorable

1233
01:15:17,897 --> 01:15:20,743
way. Thanks, Mr. Rowe. Committee members, any questions for Mr.

1234
01:15:20,924 --> 01:15:25,227
Brawl. Uh, if not, ready for a motion, Mr. Rowan.

1235
01:15:26,201 --> 01:15:28,260
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm going to move a motion

1236
01:15:28,260 --> 01:15:30,900
for approval for the four variances. I can run through

1237
01:15:31,801 --> 01:15:35,460
my logistics behind it. Um, the official plan, the property

1238
01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:38,260
is designating mixed use in the poor credit area, which

1239
01:15:38,260 --> 01:15:41,700
does permit apartment dwelling uses itself. And it does indicate

1240
01:15:41,740 --> 01:15:43,780
that they could go up to four stories. And this

1241
01:15:43,780 --> 01:15:45,700
is the official plan I'm speaking of. And when I

1242
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:49,940
look at this property, in my opinion, it's like an

1243
01:15:49,980 --> 01:15:55,220
island within the commercial corridor. It is the only residential

1244
01:15:55,241 --> 01:15:58,180
property right now that's within it. You go right from

1245
01:15:58,201 --> 01:16:01,780
highway 10 over to Oakwood Avenue North. It's commercial right

1246
01:16:01,820 --> 01:16:06,260
across. So I do feel that it is an island.

1247
01:16:06,260 --> 01:16:09,220
And I feel that it shouldn't be incorporated. So in

1248
01:16:09,220 --> 01:16:14,740
regarding the zoning permits, the apartment use, the design meets

1249
01:16:14,780 --> 01:16:18,340
the maximum permitted height. And there is no change to

1250
01:16:18,441 --> 01:16:21,460
the, to the massing of the original building, because my

1251
01:16:21,460 --> 01:16:25,780
understanding is the story. He's reducing the Florida ceiling height,

1252
01:16:25,780 --> 01:16:29,750
which you'll be building within the same. So the massing

1253
01:16:29,771 --> 01:16:33,741
won't change at all. Um, so your logistically, you can

1254
01:16:33,762 --> 01:16:37,181
accommodate the four stories within the three stories that was

1255
01:16:37,181 --> 01:16:39,941
originally proposed. Um, parking is an issue in this, in

1256
01:16:40,002 --> 01:16:43,021
this instance. And I think it's minor the type A

1257
01:16:43,042 --> 01:16:46,941
to type B. Um, aesthetically, like directly across the street

1258
01:16:47,202 --> 01:16:50,141
on Elmwood is a building that's the kitchen for the

1259
01:16:50,242 --> 01:16:55,728
existing wingporium restaurant. You know, also the properly currently has

1260
01:16:55,749 --> 01:16:58,848
a rezoning, which was mentioned, I think, maybe the 15

1261
01:16:58,888 --> 01:17:01,788
stories, I think was mentioned for mixed use commercial. Um,

1262
01:17:02,069 --> 01:17:04,768
that's being proposed right there right now under a resouring

1263
01:17:04,808 --> 01:17:08,540
official plan amendment. Um, the proposed footprint from the site

1264
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:12,540
plan is located as far south to me to help

1265
01:17:12,801 --> 01:17:17,497
minimize the impacts to the property of the North. The

1266
01:17:17,518 --> 01:17:19,977
reduction in the street, well, from my understanding, it's really

1267
01:17:20,718 --> 01:17:23,737
a way to for the commercial doing to force commercial.

1268
01:17:23,737 --> 01:17:25,897
But I have no problem with the increase in that

1269
01:17:25,998 --> 01:17:30,137
percentage. Um, like over, I do, I do sympathize and

1270
01:17:30,177 --> 01:17:33,577
I do relate with the residents when what I've heard

1271
01:17:33,678 --> 01:17:35,817
and what I've listened to. Like I live in this

1272
01:17:35,857 --> 01:17:41,602
area and it's personal to me as well. Um, except

1273
01:17:41,623 --> 01:17:45,122
overall, in my opinion, when we just apply the four

1274
01:17:45,162 --> 01:17:49,528
tests in the planning act. They satisfy and meet the

1275
01:17:49,629 --> 01:17:52,568
pot has. So I would have to move that as

1276
01:17:52,669 --> 01:17:57,363
amended and as per the drawings presented today. Thank you.

1277
01:17:57,363 --> 01:17:59,683
Do you have a second, Mrs. Robinson? Thank you Mr.

1278
01:17:59,723 --> 01:18:03,843
Chairman. I'll second the motion. To me, this proposal meets

1279
01:18:04,344 --> 01:18:07,443
all of four tests. It definitely is desirable for the

1280
01:18:07,483 --> 01:18:12,447
appropriate development of the land. It's in the lake shore

1281
01:18:12,487 --> 01:18:16,127
corridor. I mean, it does front on the side street,

1282
01:18:16,127 --> 01:18:19,407
but it's on the Lake Shore Corridor. And that fits

1283
01:18:19,428 --> 01:18:25,167
right into the context. The planned context for the Lakeshore

1284
01:18:25,167 --> 01:18:29,087
corridor. And the height increase, um, it's not much higher

1285
01:18:29,188 --> 01:18:32,687
than what some of the detached dwellings we see come

1286
01:18:32,687 --> 01:18:39,487
in. But and otherwise, the variances are all their minor

1287
01:18:39,588 --> 01:18:45,352
van with respect to impact. And. Just, Mr. Ron, I

1288
01:18:45,352 --> 01:18:47,072
think it's going through a site plan process. So if

1289
01:18:47,072 --> 01:18:49,392
we tie it to the plans, it might frustrate the

1290
01:18:49,432 --> 01:18:51,312
process. Are you okay with that? I agree. If it's

1291
01:18:51,312 --> 01:18:53,152
going through the site plan process, we can that can

1292
01:18:53,152 --> 01:18:55,792
be that way. Okay. So it's not tied to any

1293
01:18:55,792 --> 01:19:01,228
plans. Um, any further discussion. All those in favor. Any

1294
01:19:01,268 --> 01:19:03,950
opposed. Mr. Burley, your application has been approved by the

1295
01:19:03,971 --> 01:19:05,870
committee as amended. Thank you very much. Thank you. Have

1296
01:19:05,870 --> 01:19:10,053
a good day. And thank you neighbours for coming out.

1297
01:19:10,053 --> 01:19:15,253
We appreciate your comments. Uh, next application is A246 at

1298
01:19:15,253 --> 01:19:18,293
3094 Orleans Road. Is there anybody in the audience that

1299
01:19:18,314 --> 01:19:22,360
has an interest in this application? You know what? No.

1300
01:19:24,188 --> 01:19:28,036
Are you the agent. Yeah. Come on up. Just introduce

1301
01:19:28,076 --> 01:19:31,553
yourself. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and the members. My name

1302
01:19:31,553 --> 01:19:35,393
is Sendib Grover. I'm the owner of 3094, Orleans Road.

1303
01:19:35,899 --> 01:19:39,478
I'm here to talk about the two minor variances that

1304
01:19:40,619 --> 01:19:42,765
have been built for a long period of time. Number

1305
01:19:42,786 --> 01:19:46,125
one is the canopy roof on top of the side

1306
01:19:47,026 --> 01:19:50,365
entrance. And number two is the concrete patio that has

1307
01:19:50,365 --> 01:19:54,605
been built. One thing to note here, the canopy roof

1308
01:19:54,645 --> 01:19:58,551
was built. On or before 2011. That's when we purchased

1309
01:19:58,551 --> 01:20:00,791
the house with the canopy roof. It was pointed out

1310
01:20:00,831 --> 01:20:04,391
by the inspector when he came to visit the concrete

1311
01:20:04,412 --> 01:20:08,631
patio that's been built to accommodate the safe walking as

1312
01:20:08,631 --> 01:20:11,371
the surface was uneven. He pointed out that while we're

1313
01:20:11,411 --> 01:20:13,691
doing the minor application for this, we should also include

1314
01:20:14,432 --> 01:20:17,291
the canopy roof that's been set on the right hand

1315
01:20:17,331 --> 01:20:22,020
side of the entrance. The variance is 0. 1 metre.

1316
01:20:22,956 --> 01:20:28,455
For the canopy roof and point 3 for the patio.

1317
01:20:28,455 --> 01:20:31,415
The setback requirements are 1. 2 and 1 metres respectively.

1318
01:20:32,942 --> 01:20:37,481
The canopy has been built for the, um, winter safety

1319
01:20:37,982 --> 01:20:40,261
as ice and snow can accumulate. I'm sure it was

1320
01:20:40,261 --> 01:20:43,001
built for that purpose. It was built before we procured

1321
01:20:43,022 --> 01:20:44,441
the house, but we would like to bring it to

1322
01:20:44,542 --> 01:20:49,280
compliance. And that's the reason I'm here. Community members questions,

1323
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,876
Mr. Page. Yeah. Mr. Chair. You know, on the surface,

1324
01:20:54,876 --> 01:20:57,116
it looks like one thing that under investigation, it looks

1325
01:20:57,116 --> 01:20:59,656
to me from the photos that we've seen and, you

1326
01:20:59,656 --> 01:21:03,516
know, site visit that the downspout, or sorry, the Yves

1327
01:21:03,537 --> 01:21:07,685
trough overhangs at least the fence of the neighbour. Um,

1328
01:21:08,506 --> 01:21:10,485
you know, that kind of bothers me. I think maybe

1329
01:21:10,525 --> 01:21:12,959
still getting a decent maintenance and stuff. But, you know,

1330
01:21:12,959 --> 01:21:16,339
we're approving something. I think, uh, including the, uh, Yves

1331
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,699
trough is a bit close. Then when you look at

1332
01:21:18,699 --> 01:21:21,219
that, you also have the column that's holding up the

1333
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,019
roof that pinches off that space there. I don't know

1334
01:21:24,019 --> 01:21:28,899
how you're going to get any emergency services through there.

1335
01:21:28,899 --> 01:21:30,179
Maybe you can fit a lawnmower or something, but I

1336
01:21:30,179 --> 01:21:32,479
don't know how to get a stretcher through there. And

1337
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,899
listen, I'm sorry to do it. I know it's not

1338
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,059
a variance in front of us, but I don't see

1339
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,419
how that below grade entrance at the closest point to

1340
01:21:40,459 --> 01:21:45,379
the property line. Um, I don't see how that did

1341
01:21:45,379 --> 01:21:47,599
generate some sort of a notion of a variance. But

1342
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,239
I'm, I'm just, it's just too closed off there. Um,

1343
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,379
Mr. Chair, I'm not in favor of this. If you

1344
01:21:53,379 --> 01:21:55,379
go to the next slide, that'll probably show you a

1345
01:21:55,379 --> 01:21:59,130
little bit more visibility. You know what, just let me

1346
01:21:59,130 --> 01:22:01,930
ask, let Mrs. Robinson ask a question. Then you can

1347
01:22:02,431 --> 01:22:04,650
respond to. Well, actually, you know what? Yeah. Why don't

1348
01:22:04,650 --> 01:22:06,650
you respond to that. Maybe it might answer your question.

1349
01:22:06,690 --> 01:22:10,570
Yeah. Go ahead. So if you look at the canopy,

1350
01:22:10,570 --> 01:22:12,250
are you talking about the canopy on the right hand

1351
01:22:12,250 --> 01:22:16,730
side of the Mr. Page, just to clarify your question?

1352
01:22:16,730 --> 01:22:18,330
Are you talking about the canopy that's on the right

1353
01:22:18,591 --> 01:22:23,925
hand side of the corner there. The closest point of

1354
01:22:23,925 --> 01:22:26,965
the canopy to the property line, which I assume has

1355
01:22:27,005 --> 01:22:32,124
something correlative to the fence. So it's where it's at

1356
01:22:32,145 --> 01:22:34,684
the closest, which is the variance, I believe that you're

1357
01:22:34,724 --> 01:22:38,364
asking for. Correct. So it looks like it's to the,

1358
01:22:38,364 --> 01:22:42,058
uh. Fascia of the, uh, of the canopy measured from

1359
01:22:42,098 --> 01:22:45,978
the fascia. Um, but then you've got the Yves Shroff,

1360
01:22:45,978 --> 01:22:50,218
which is frequently four inches. Um, on top of that,

1361
01:22:50,218 --> 01:22:53,638
which looks like it's directly over by the photograph, uh,

1362
01:22:53,839 --> 01:22:56,538
and just by looking at it, uh, photograph right above

1363
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:01,578
the fence and the property line. It's 0. 1 metre

1364
01:23:01,599 --> 01:23:05,176
from the fence property line. To the face of the

1365
01:23:05,197 --> 01:23:10,540
canopy. Correct. Yeah. But not the trough. Okay. So the

1366
01:23:10,540 --> 01:23:13,180
trough looks to me like it's overhanging a bit. Plus

1367
01:23:13,180 --> 01:23:17,900
the downspout is projected onto the neighbor's property in a

1368
01:23:17,940 --> 01:23:19,808
very narrow space. But then on top of that, the

1369
01:23:19,989 --> 01:23:22,288
column that's holding up the canopy is pinching off that

1370
01:23:22,389 --> 01:23:26,448
space between the column and the fence. And it just

1371
01:23:26,448 --> 01:23:29,328
based on the numbers that you're using, you know, that

1372
01:23:29,328 --> 01:23:32,528
doesn't look sufficient to get emergency services back there. That's

1373
01:23:32,568 --> 01:23:36,768
what concerns me. As I noted, this was built prior

1374
01:23:36,808 --> 01:23:40,048
to us. I understand. And we would want to bring

1375
01:23:40,088 --> 01:23:43,536
it to compliance. So. Well, I know you have, you

1376
01:23:43,717 --> 01:23:48,838
have, uh, staff support. But I just think it's, it's

1377
01:23:48,939 --> 01:23:53,263
dimensionally problematic. And. You know, I mean, I'm willing, if

1378
01:23:53,263 --> 01:23:56,183
I were to, if this was, if I was supportive

1379
01:23:56,204 --> 01:23:59,463
of this for the canopy, I wouldn't belabor the billogated

1380
01:23:59,503 --> 01:24:02,663
insurance, but it's all very, very close there. And I

1381
01:24:02,663 --> 01:24:04,343
don't think you have access to the rear yard on

1382
01:24:04,343 --> 01:24:10,365
the other side, do you? No. Yes. So you can't,

1383
01:24:10,365 --> 01:24:12,445
you know, it's a wood structure. I don't know. It

1384
01:24:12,445 --> 01:24:15,865
might be fairly easy to modify a little bit. The

1385
01:24:15,865 --> 01:24:17,965
downspout, just, you know, if you could redirect that or

1386
01:24:18,005 --> 01:24:20,925
something like that. But I almost wish he would defer

1387
01:24:20,925 --> 01:24:22,922
that. If you really believed in what I was saying

1388
01:24:23,263 --> 01:24:25,802
and the rest of the committee did, uh, deferral might

1389
01:24:25,802 --> 01:24:27,402
be in order in just a bit of a modification

1390
01:24:27,442 --> 01:24:30,762
there. But that's just me. I appreciate you very calmly

1391
01:24:30,802 --> 01:24:32,802
trying to answer my question. Thank you very much. I

1392
01:24:32,802 --> 01:24:39,077
appreciate that. Likewise. Mrs. Robinson. Thank you Mr. Chairman. I

1393
01:24:39,077 --> 01:24:42,937
agree with the concerns that Mr. Page has. And, um,

1394
01:24:43,058 --> 01:24:48,434
but I don't support this. Canopy. That's too close to

1395
01:24:48,434 --> 01:24:52,114
the lot line. Um, I know that, now this is

1396
01:24:52,114 --> 01:24:56,514
one of those situations where we have engineering saying they

1397
01:24:56,554 --> 01:24:59,314
don't have a drainage concern, but then we've got a

1398
01:24:59,314 --> 01:25:03,054
neighbour telling us the water just runs right off. And

1399
01:25:03,054 --> 01:25:07,314
I know when you have, uh, a really strong rain

1400
01:25:07,314 --> 01:25:11,954
event, an evestrog is never enough. They over top thieves

1401
01:25:11,975 --> 01:25:15,074
troughs when you have these big storm events. And that's

1402
01:25:15,095 --> 01:25:17,074
what we're hearing. Part of the issue here is we

1403
01:25:17,114 --> 01:25:19,794
don't have a proper site plan really showing where all

1404
01:25:19,794 --> 01:25:23,394
of these setbacks are. Like this is really not telling

1405
01:25:23,415 --> 01:25:31,608
us very much. Um, but I don't support the canopy.

1406
01:25:31,608 --> 01:25:34,441
So it's the point one. I don't support that. And

1407
01:25:34,782 --> 01:25:37,401
I realise you bought the property. That's the way it

1408
01:25:37,401 --> 01:25:40,681
was. But sometimes that's what happens. I mean, we have

1409
01:25:40,721 --> 01:25:43,181
people coming in here and they built it. It doesn't

1410
01:25:43,221 --> 01:25:45,901
really matter. We have it in front of us today.

1411
01:25:45,901 --> 01:25:47,661
And I think it probably is in front of us

1412
01:25:48,002 --> 01:25:50,541
because your neighbour probably called and said gee, that looks

1413
01:25:50,541 --> 01:25:53,341
close. And he's getting impacted. And we do have a

1414
01:25:53,341 --> 01:25:59,741
letter from him. But I'm not in support of what's

1415
01:25:59,762 --> 01:26:05,037
proposed today. Let's requested. Evan, can you do me a

1416
01:26:05,037 --> 01:26:11,813
favor? Can you go to the next photograph. Yeah, maybe

1417
01:26:11,914 --> 01:26:17,892
one more. No, keep going down. Sorry. Maybe it's the

1418
01:26:17,892 --> 01:26:24,334
next one. Keep going. Yeah. So when I look at

1419
01:26:24,334 --> 01:26:27,014
that, if you can just zoom in on that post

1420
01:26:27,115 --> 01:26:32,120
at the corner there. See, so when I look at

1421
01:26:32,381 --> 01:26:34,480
this, sir, I think, like, I think you're going to

1422
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:39,103
need a variance for a setback to your canopy. And

1423
01:26:39,284 --> 01:26:43,743
I don't have particular concern with a canopy, not as

1424
01:26:43,743 --> 01:26:47,663
it stands today, I do, but potentially, um, as Mr.

1425
01:26:47,684 --> 01:26:52,103
Page has said, when you put that. Yeah, so leave

1426
01:26:52,103 --> 01:26:53,543
it there. Don't worry about it, Evan. Just leave it

1427
01:26:53,543 --> 01:26:56,183
like that. See, with that post of that canopy there,

1428
01:26:56,183 --> 01:26:59,683
you reduce the mobility of getting into the backyard. And

1429
01:26:59,724 --> 01:27:02,023
you probably can't even put a stretcher back there, especially

1430
01:27:02,023 --> 01:27:04,663
when you don't have, you don't, you can't get in

1431
01:27:04,663 --> 01:27:06,503
from the other side. So to me, I mean, if

1432
01:27:06,524 --> 01:27:10,183
that post was removed and put where the railing is,

1433
01:27:10,223 --> 01:27:12,903
I think it does a couple things. One, it gets

1434
01:27:12,903 --> 01:27:15,603
you the ability to get into the backyard with, you

1435
01:27:15,603 --> 01:27:18,263
know, fire and stretcher and so forth. And I don't

1436
01:27:18,263 --> 01:27:20,583
know if you're able to, maybe it might cut the

1437
01:27:20,764 --> 01:27:23,623
canopy back a little bit. And then you can rearrange

1438
01:27:23,884 --> 01:27:28,423
the downspout away from the neighbour because, as Mrs. Robinson

1439
01:27:28,444 --> 01:27:30,823
said, we do have a letter on fall with regards

1440
01:27:30,823 --> 01:27:33,863
to some of that drainage and so forth. So I

1441
01:27:33,863 --> 01:27:35,463
think you're going to need a variance, but I think

1442
01:27:35,484 --> 01:27:36,983
you might be able to do some work here that

1443
01:27:37,023 --> 01:27:40,103
you can come back with something that kind of addresses

1444
01:27:40,143 --> 01:27:42,903
some of our concerns and still get what you want.

1445
01:27:42,903 --> 01:27:46,343
So, um, I mean, as Mr. Page has said my

1446
01:27:46,383 --> 01:27:49,843
recommendation, we be to defer it and try to, and

1447
01:27:49,843 --> 01:27:53,783
staff, who's at Shyvani's. So Sivani understands where we're coming

1448
01:27:53,823 --> 01:27:55,783
from. And maybe she can work with you on something

1449
01:27:55,823 --> 01:27:59,383
that, like the dude. It's not like a complete no,

1450
01:27:59,383 --> 01:28:02,983
but I think we need to, you know, there's some

1451
01:28:03,084 --> 01:28:04,663
misogyne you can do to it that I think you

1452
01:28:04,703 --> 01:28:08,263
can then come back and get some approval, uh, that,

1453
01:28:08,263 --> 01:28:10,599
you know, that you need. So. Do you want to

1454
01:28:10,599 --> 01:28:13,519
do that? Yes. All right. So why don't we defer

1455
01:28:13,519 --> 01:28:15,698
it. Alexander, we don't need to put a date on

1456
01:28:15,698 --> 01:28:18,178
this, do we? Or do you want to? I mean,

1457
01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:20,338
this is an existing condition. We do normally put dates

1458
01:28:20,338 --> 01:28:21,858
on the existing conditions, but I'll leave that up to

1459
01:28:21,858 --> 01:28:27,032
the community. So do you, November 19th. Yeah. We could

1460
01:28:27,032 --> 01:28:28,952
make the November 19th work for this as well. That

1461
01:28:28,952 --> 01:28:30,632
would maintain the same due date of, I believe it

1462
01:28:30,632 --> 01:28:33,192
was October the 9th. Yeah. So we'll get you back

1463
01:28:33,293 --> 01:28:35,752
on November the 19th. You've got till October the 9th

1464
01:28:35,853 --> 01:28:38,552
to, you don't have to make changes on October the

1465
01:28:38,592 --> 01:28:40,472
9th, but at least deal with Schiavoni and get those

1466
01:28:40,472 --> 01:28:42,472
things changed and then come back to the committee. Like

1467
01:28:42,472 --> 01:28:44,472
I said, I think the support for what you want

1468
01:28:44,472 --> 01:28:46,212
to do. But if we can tweak a little bit

1469
01:28:46,493 --> 01:28:49,912
and then it'll just be a better development for everybody.

1470
01:28:49,952 --> 01:28:53,352
Okay, Committee member satisfied to defer. So application's been deferred

1471
01:28:53,392 --> 01:28:56,232
November tonight. Thanks so much for your cooperation. Really appreciate

1472
01:28:56,253 --> 01:29:05,623
it. Thank you. 19th or the ninth. 19th. Got a.

1473
01:29:05,660 --> 01:29:15,088
Battle for you. Uh, okay. Next application A246

1474
01:29:15,749 --> 01:29:18,768
at 2121 Rathborn Road for anybody that came in later,

1475
01:29:18,768 --> 01:29:22,448
anybody online, it's been deferred. There's no date. We'll, you'll

1476
01:29:22,488 --> 01:29:28,768
get recirculated. Next application is A248 at 3960 Eglinton Avenue

1477
01:29:29,029 --> 01:29:31,648
West unit number 18. Is there anybody in the ion

1478
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:35,535
has an interest in this application. No Alexander, if you'd

1479
01:29:35,535 --> 01:29:37,535
like to introduce the agent of the applicant, please. Yes.

1480
01:29:37,575 --> 01:29:40,095
Mr. Chair, for this application, we have Ramon Kumar registered.

1481
01:29:40,095 --> 01:29:44,500
Ramon, you've been unmuted. You can go ahead. Go down

1482
01:29:44,540 --> 01:29:47,220
the chairman committee member. And my name is Roman Khmar

1483
01:29:47,260 --> 01:29:50,890
from MEM Engineering. And, uh, we have the applicant for

1484
01:29:51,071 --> 01:29:55,530
this application. And we are requesting a minor variance to

1485
01:29:55,551 --> 01:29:58,010
a loan. Sorry, before you start off, have you seen

1486
01:29:58,191 --> 01:30:02,269
planning stops comments. Yes, sir. We saw that. So they're

1487
01:30:02,309 --> 01:30:08,970
asking for a deferral. Yes. We are, we are okay

1488
01:30:08,991 --> 01:30:10,890
with that. You're OK. So you want to defer it.

1489
01:30:12,350 --> 01:30:17,151
Yes. We've been that friend about with planning style. Sorry.

1490
01:30:17,151 --> 01:30:21,301
So we'll, for the application for you. Yeah. If we

1491
01:30:21,322 --> 01:30:25,221
could refer to earliest date, that would be really helpful.

1492
01:30:28,417 --> 01:30:30,108
So. I didn't pick that up. What he's asking for

1493
01:30:30,609 --> 01:30:35,767
a committee chair is he's requesting. Yes. We had opened.

1494
01:30:36,463 --> 01:30:38,282
Early state. What's the earliest state that we can get

1495
01:30:38,303 --> 01:30:42,168
him back. Um, it really depends on if they're going

1496
01:30:42,168 --> 01:30:44,488
to be any changes. Because if they're going to be.

1497
01:30:44,528 --> 01:30:46,008
Sir, you know what we'll do. Why don't we do

1498
01:30:46,008 --> 01:30:49,928
this? Um, Alexander, do you want to pick a like,

1499
01:30:49,928 --> 01:30:51,848
we can pick a for you. And then what happens

1500
01:30:51,888 --> 01:30:53,928
is if you can get it done earlier, then he'll

1501
01:30:53,968 --> 01:30:55,688
just put you on a new agenda. I would just

1502
01:30:55,688 --> 01:30:57,368
suggest we could leave this open ended as soon as

1503
01:30:57,368 --> 01:30:59,368
the applicant is ready to come in. We will put

1504
01:30:59,368 --> 01:31:01,208
them on the first available date. Like we're not going

1505
01:31:01,208 --> 01:31:03,208
to hold them back for any reason. So leaving it

1506
01:31:03,229 --> 01:31:04,888
open - ended is the fastest way to get back

1507
01:31:04,928 --> 01:31:07,208
on an agenda. Yeah. And it's not, it's not an

1508
01:31:07,248 --> 01:31:10,168
existing condition. So we're okay. Yeah. Sir. So what we're

1509
01:31:10,168 --> 01:31:12,728
going to do is we'll just defer it. I would

1510
01:31:12,768 --> 01:31:16,168
reach out to Shivani and just deal with her. And

1511
01:31:16,168 --> 01:31:18,008
then as soon as you're ready to go, just contact

1512
01:31:18,269 --> 01:31:23,302
Alexander. He'll put you on the next available agenda. Thank

1513
01:31:23,323 --> 01:31:27,062
you, sir. Okay. Committee member satisfied to defer. So application

1514
01:31:27,963 --> 01:31:35,199
A. 248 has been deferred. Next application is A249 at

1515
01:31:35,220 --> 01:31:39,199
665 Meadowwood Road. Is there an interest in this application?

1516
01:31:47,309 --> 01:31:51,208
Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. Chairperson Committee members and the

1517
01:31:51,229 --> 01:31:55,360
planning staff. I'm the applicant on the Mala from Blueprints

1518
01:31:55,381 --> 01:32:00,400
Permit. And I have read to all the recommendations from

1519
01:32:00,821 --> 01:32:04,366
the Planning Staff. I completely aligned with it. And the

1520
01:32:04,406 --> 01:32:07,803
outstanding dues for the CVC. And the forestry department would

1521
01:32:07,824 --> 01:32:11,563
be paid right after the Apple World. So I'm requesting

1522
01:32:11,603 --> 01:32:14,523
for the approval of all the variances listed out by

1523
01:32:14,624 --> 01:32:19,083
the staff. And as well, the variations recognised by the

1524
01:32:19,744 --> 01:32:24,843
zoning review application as well. So is the existing driveway,

1525
01:32:24,843 --> 01:32:27,483
the existing condition of that, what's there now? That's what

1526
01:32:27,504 --> 01:32:30,523
you're asking for. There's no changes to be made, making

1527
01:32:30,523 --> 01:32:32,523
it bigger or anything like that. It's what it is.

1528
01:32:32,523 --> 01:32:34,923
Yes, that's what the homeowner has done. And we requesting

1529
01:32:34,963 --> 01:32:38,408
the approval of the same. Committee members, any questions or

1530
01:32:38,448 --> 01:32:44,129
comments. No, Alexander. The city is no objections to the

1531
01:32:44,169 --> 01:32:47,329
application as amended. Uh, the first and third variances are

1532
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:49,809
recommended for amendment. The first one is just a technical

1533
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:52,609
rewording. The second one, they're noting the driveway width should

1534
01:32:52,649 --> 01:32:57,009
be measured as 17. 2. And that actually within 6

1535
01:32:57,049 --> 01:32:59,424
metres of the garage, they're allowed 10. 5. Uh, and

1536
01:32:59,424 --> 01:33:03,824
then Forestry is requesting a condition. Nowhere in submissions received,

1537
01:33:03,824 --> 01:33:05,104
no members of the public have pre - registered to

1538
01:33:05,104 --> 01:33:07,804
speak. Thank you. Um, again, is there anybody in the

1539
01:33:07,845 --> 01:33:12,224
INS has an interest application A249 at 665 Meadowwood Road.

1540
01:33:13,517 --> 01:33:16,216
No, Alexander, or no, sorry, Mr. Page. Ready for a

1541
01:33:16,216 --> 01:33:19,456
motion? Thanks, Mr. Chair. Move approval of the application. It

1542
01:33:19,456 --> 01:33:22,776
does meet the four tests. Um, subject to general conformance

1543
01:33:22,816 --> 01:33:27,016
of the drawings, please. And as amended, um, you know,

1544
01:33:27,197 --> 01:33:29,736
I mean, we're able to see it as it stands.

1545
01:33:29,736 --> 01:33:32,356
I don't think it's inappropriate. And there's no landscape, uh,

1546
01:33:32,356 --> 01:33:35,895
coverage issues. Sorry, before I go to a second, do

1547
01:33:35,895 --> 01:33:38,455
you wish to amend the application or reflect planning staff's

1548
01:33:38,495 --> 01:33:42,215
comments? That's correct. Committee member satisfied domenica. Okay. Second, Mr.

1549
01:33:42,236 --> 01:33:48,735
Ellis. Thank you, Mr. Chair, second. Uh, Mr. Chair, just

1550
01:33:48,756 --> 01:33:52,255
to clarify for Mr. Page, is that subject to forestry's

1551
01:33:52,255 --> 01:33:57,493
conditioner? Is that without forestry's condition? No condition. Ken, are

1552
01:33:57,493 --> 01:33:59,753
you okay with that without the four street condition? Yep.

1553
01:33:59,753 --> 01:34:04,962
Okay. Uh, any discussion, all those in favor. Any opposed?

1554
01:34:05,002 --> 01:34:07,442
So sir, your application additive has been approved by the

1555
01:34:07,482 --> 01:34:09,682
committee. In general coins of the drawing, you presented today.

1556
01:34:10,023 --> 01:34:12,863
Really appreciate you. Thank you. Have a good day. Uh,

1557
01:34:12,964 --> 01:34:18,463
next application is A250 at 2943 rainwater drive. Is there

1558
01:34:18,463 --> 01:34:20,223
anybody in the Irons has an interest in this application?

1559
01:34:22,310 --> 01:34:24,289
No, Alexander, if you'd like to introduce the agent of

1560
01:34:24,289 --> 01:34:27,801
the applicant, please. Yes. Mr. Chair, for this application, we

1561
01:34:27,801 --> 01:34:30,081
have Michael Galley registered. Michael, you've been unmuted. You can

1562
01:34:30,081 --> 01:34:35,860
go ahead. Uh, thank you. And members of the committee.

1563
01:34:35,860 --> 01:34:39,140
I have reviewed the staff comments, uh, the report originally

1564
01:34:39,561 --> 01:34:43,916
commented deferral to allow redesign of the driveway. And I

1565
01:34:43,916 --> 01:34:47,516
have been working with the, uh, planning team to add

1566
01:34:47,697 --> 01:34:51,363
those concerns before two days of hearing. Following our discussion,

1567
01:34:51,363 --> 01:34:55,203
we have revised the proposer for the existing 9. 6

1568
01:34:55,624 --> 01:35:00,563
metre driveway to a maximum width of 7. 2 metres.

1569
01:35:00,563 --> 01:35:03,843
The revised design also provides a require soft landscaping and

1570
01:35:03,883 --> 01:35:09,767
address the concern identified by planning. Staff have confirmed their

1571
01:35:09,788 --> 01:35:14,317
support for this revised proposer. Accordingly rather than proceeding with

1572
01:35:14,338 --> 01:35:18,397
the original application or a deferred. We asked the committee

1573
01:35:18,437 --> 01:35:21,757
to consider the application as amended to permit the maximum

1574
01:35:22,018 --> 01:35:25,997
driveway with of 7. 2 metre in a coordinates with

1575
01:35:26,258 --> 01:35:30,449
revoice side plans submitted today. We believe the voice proposal

1576
01:35:30,489 --> 01:35:35,249
represent an appropriate compromise to maintain the residential character of

1577
01:35:35,249 --> 01:35:38,769
the property. And address the intent behind the city driveway

1578
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:42,809
and landscaping requirements. I would appreciate the committee approval of

1579
01:35:42,830 --> 01:35:46,729
the application as amended. Thank you. So just to confirm,

1580
01:35:46,729 --> 01:35:49,369
when we're looking at these drawings, the drawing on the

1581
01:35:49,369 --> 01:35:51,529
left is a current state and the drawing on the

1582
01:35:51,569 --> 01:35:54,889
right is going to be the, uh, reduction in the,

1583
01:35:54,889 --> 01:35:58,489
uh, in the driveway width as it stands today, correct?

1584
01:35:59,150 --> 01:36:04,809
Correct. So the left side has, uh, interlock, uh, just

1585
01:36:05,790 --> 01:36:08,729
zero metre from the left side of the property line

1586
01:36:09,550 --> 01:36:12,809
as well as covering some area in front of the

1587
01:36:12,990 --> 01:36:16,207
planter. And the proposal now is to have two feet

1588
01:36:16,247 --> 01:36:19,407
on the left side as well as three user interlock

1589
01:36:19,447 --> 01:36:22,927
on the right to end up with 7. 2 metre

1590
01:36:22,967 --> 01:36:27,967
for the driveway. The ashfeld and interlock and increase the

1591
01:36:27,967 --> 01:36:32,841
endskip area. To be 33 percent of the front setback

1592
01:36:33,182 --> 01:36:41,847
where the buyer ask only for 30 percent landscape. Do

1593
01:36:41,847 --> 01:36:44,007
you, Mr. Chair, I'd like to confirm we've worked with

1594
01:36:44,047 --> 01:36:46,807
the applicant to reduce it down to 7. 2 metres.

1595
01:36:46,807 --> 01:36:49,367
They're meeting the soft yard landscaping requirement and the hardscaping

1596
01:36:49,388 --> 01:36:53,927
setbacks. I have no concerns. Community members satisfied to amend

1597
01:36:53,927 --> 01:36:57,847
the application to 7. 2 metre driveway width. So that's

1598
01:36:57,887 --> 01:37:04,177
been amended. Alexander, I guess the comments are irrelevant. Planning

1599
01:37:04,217 --> 01:37:07,457
has updated their comment as noted. I will just add

1600
01:37:07,718 --> 01:37:09,937
that one letter of concern was received and no members

1601
01:37:09,937 --> 01:37:11,958
of the public have pre - registered speak. Thank you

1602
01:37:11,958 --> 01:37:13,558
again. Has there anybody in the INS has an interesting

1603
01:37:13,579 --> 01:37:20,119
application A250 located 2943 rainwater drive. No. Ready for a

1604
01:37:20,119 --> 01:37:23,079
motion, Mrs. Robinson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll move approval

1605
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:28,119
of the application as amended in general conformits with the

1606
01:37:28,220 --> 01:37:30,999
plan that revised plan that was submitted. And this is

1607
01:37:31,180 --> 01:37:33,959
exactly the kind of thing we like owners to do

1608
01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:39,879
to work with staff before the hearing comes. Um, get

1609
01:37:39,919 --> 01:37:43,559
the application revised to be acceptable. And it now meets

1610
01:37:43,580 --> 01:37:46,225
the four tests. Thank you. Do you have a second?

1611
01:37:46,265 --> 01:37:49,025
Mr. Dill. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll Second of Motion.

1612
01:37:49,862 --> 01:37:52,814
Communs. Any discussion on the motion. All those in favor.

1613
01:37:54,397 --> 01:37:57,611
Any opposed. Um, sir, your application has been approved by

1614
01:37:57,611 --> 01:38:00,811
the committee. Uh, as amended in general Corrin to Round,

1615
01:38:00,811 --> 01:38:03,770
you presented to the committee today. Thank you. Thank you.

1616
01:38:03,770 --> 01:38:09,348
Have a good day. Next application is A. 251 located

1617
01:38:09,369 --> 01:38:13,817
3152. Countless Crescent is, I guess, their online. Is there

1618
01:38:13,817 --> 01:38:15,737
anybody in the audience that has an interest in this

1619
01:38:15,737 --> 01:38:19,686
application. No, Alexander, if you'd like to introduce the agent,

1620
01:38:19,686 --> 01:38:25,109
the applicant, please. Uh, yes, Mr. Chair, for this application,

1621
01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:28,069
we have Kizang again. You've been on muted. You can

1622
01:38:28,069 --> 01:38:36,712
go ahead. With me right now, I just need help

1623
01:38:36,893 --> 01:38:42,632
him to translate. So, um, sorry, Mishang, is that, yeah,

1624
01:38:42,632 --> 01:38:45,970
so, um, I think we had a conversation before. So

1625
01:38:46,010 --> 01:38:51,170
you've got planning staffs, um, suggested at the FERL. They

1626
01:38:51,170 --> 01:38:53,130
want you to redesign it. So did you want to

1627
01:38:53,130 --> 01:38:55,570
defer the application? Because I think if you move forward

1628
01:38:55,671 --> 01:38:59,330
today, you're not going to get an approval. So I

1629
01:38:59,330 --> 01:39:02,339
understand. Yeah. Do you want to defer it. Yes. But

1630
01:39:02,380 --> 01:39:05,319
can I ask you one question? So for now, I

1631
01:39:05,500 --> 01:39:09,719
just, I think I need doing the zoning review first,

1632
01:39:09,719 --> 01:39:15,035
right? I'm sorry. Repeat that again. So from the comments,

1633
01:39:15,035 --> 01:39:18,803
it says, I need to do the zooming review. Yeah.

1634
01:39:18,803 --> 01:39:22,643
So what I would suggest you do is contact Sarah.

1635
01:39:22,643 --> 01:39:24,323
She's the planner on this site. If you don't have

1636
01:39:24,424 --> 01:39:27,763
her contact information, call the committee tomorrow and they'll give

1637
01:39:27,763 --> 01:39:30,003
it to you. And then just, um, just speak with

1638
01:39:30,003 --> 01:39:33,283
her. She'll guide you through the process of what they

1639
01:39:33,283 --> 01:39:35,123
want you to do. And then you can, um, deal

1640
01:39:35,163 --> 01:39:37,523
with her on that. And when then once you guys

1641
01:39:37,544 --> 01:39:39,603
have come up to an agreement, then you can come

1642
01:39:39,603 --> 01:39:42,254
back to the committee. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much.

1643
01:39:42,435 --> 01:39:45,614
You're welcome. For the date. We can do November 19th

1644
01:39:45,614 --> 01:39:47,614
again. Okay. So are you able to come back on

1645
01:39:47,614 --> 01:39:52,084
November the 19th. November 19. Okay. No problem. So you

1646
01:39:52,265 --> 01:39:55,924
have until October the 9th to hand in any new

1647
01:39:55,964 --> 01:39:58,484
drawings or anything. So I would recommend that you contact

1648
01:39:59,145 --> 01:40:01,444
Sarah in the next day or two, uh, and try

1649
01:40:01,484 --> 01:40:03,204
to have a meeting with her and then just go

1650
01:40:03,204 --> 01:40:05,690
through that process. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Committee

1651
01:40:05,730 --> 01:40:08,330
member satisfied the defer. So application has been deferred November

1652
01:40:08,351 --> 01:40:16,197
19th. Okay. Next application is A253 at 440 Celsi drive.

1653
01:40:16,197 --> 01:40:17,717
Is there anybody in the ionites has an interest in

1654
01:40:17,757 --> 01:40:22,965
this application? Are you the neighbours. Or sorry? Okay. Is

1655
01:40:22,965 --> 01:40:27,085
there anybody? Are you the owner. Neighbours? Okay. The agents

1656
01:40:27,125 --> 01:40:32,018
online I take it. Three you, Mr. Chair. I don't

1657
01:40:32,018 --> 01:40:33,778
see them online at the moment. We have reached out

1658
01:40:33,818 --> 01:40:36,421
to see. If we can get them, but they don't,

1659
01:40:36,421 --> 01:40:40,423
doesn't appear they've joined the meeting. Is there anybody in

1660
01:40:40,423 --> 01:40:44,023
the audience besides the people that have raised their hands

1661
01:40:44,124 --> 01:40:48,773
on this application as the agent here, the owner. No?

1662
01:40:48,773 --> 01:40:50,853
Okay. Well, I think we were probably going to defer

1663
01:40:50,853 --> 01:40:53,713
this application anyhow just because of the fact that, um,

1664
01:40:53,914 --> 01:40:57,013
it's not. Mr. Chair, we've got them. Okay. Good. All

1665
01:40:57,013 --> 01:41:01,333
right. So, uh, we have Abish Shock Rezgor. Abishek, you've

1666
01:41:01,333 --> 01:41:11,221
been unmuted. You can go ahead. I wish I

1667
01:41:11,261 --> 01:41:12,581
might need to click the Unmute button on your end.

1668
01:41:22,450 --> 01:41:23,149
One second, Mr. Chair.

1669
01:41:34,725 --> 01:41:36,304
Abisha, can you please push the unmute button on your

1670
01:41:36,304 --> 01:41:45,373
side if you can? Oh, there we go. Hello. Hi,

1671
01:41:45,373 --> 01:41:47,890
how are you? Good, how are you? Good, not that.

1672
01:41:47,890 --> 01:41:51,443
Have you seen planning stops comments. Yes. That's correct. So

1673
01:41:51,624 --> 01:41:54,660
do you wish to defer the application. Yes, Mr. Chair.

1674
01:41:54,700 --> 01:41:58,900
Okay. Um, there's two neighbours in the audience and I

1675
01:41:58,940 --> 01:42:01,140
wish you had a deferred at earlier. So they didn't

1676
01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:04,180
have to commit. But unfortunately, we're going to have, we're

1677
01:42:04,220 --> 01:42:05,540
going to get it deferred so that they can work

1678
01:42:05,721 --> 01:42:08,580
with planning staff on reducing the driveway with. I think

1679
01:42:08,601 --> 01:42:11,940
it's a bit too excessive. There's some comments from transfer

1680
01:42:11,980 --> 01:42:14,740
station works with regard to some sight lines as well

1681
01:42:15,321 --> 01:42:17,489
that they wish to deal with. So. Uh, we're going

1682
01:42:17,489 --> 01:42:19,649
to give them an opportunity to do that. Um, then

1683
01:42:19,689 --> 01:42:23,409
they'll come back. Um, Alexander, do we want to? Yeah,

1684
01:42:23,409 --> 01:42:25,889
we could do November 19th again deadline for the deferral

1685
01:42:25,889 --> 01:42:29,034
fee and resubmission October 9th. Sir, are you able to

1686
01:42:29,034 --> 01:42:34,076
come back on November the 19th. Yes. Mr. Chairman. Okay.

1687
01:42:34,076 --> 01:42:37,356
So, um, you've gotten until October the 9th to present

1688
01:42:37,457 --> 01:42:39,836
any new drawings or anything that you wish to do.

1689
01:42:39,937 --> 01:42:44,622
My suggestion to you is to contact. Shivani. Oh Sarah.

1690
01:42:44,622 --> 01:42:47,302
Um, if you don't have a contact information, Sarah, is

1691
01:42:47,843 --> 01:42:50,462
your planner reach out to the Committee of Adjustment Office

1692
01:42:50,563 --> 01:42:52,702
tomorrow. They'll give it to you. I'd sit down with

1693
01:42:54,243 --> 01:42:57,822
comments not only from planning department, but from development and

1694
01:42:57,822 --> 01:43:00,862
construction, they have some concerns with regards to sight lines

1695
01:43:01,123 --> 01:43:03,262
and offencing and so forth. So I think those are

1696
01:43:03,262 --> 01:43:05,742
very serious concerns. So at the end of the day,

1697
01:43:05,843 --> 01:43:07,822
please sit down with them, uh, we'll have you back

1698
01:43:07,843 --> 01:43:11,629
on November the 19th. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The

1699
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:17,015
owner is again as well. We both will be working

1700
01:43:17,036 --> 01:43:19,815
with the planning. Okay. Thank you. Committee members, Ici, I

1701
01:43:19,815 --> 01:43:23,055
did defer. Uh, application has been deferred. I apologise. I

1702
01:43:23,055 --> 01:43:25,155
have to come in and sit through this. But, um,

1703
01:43:25,155 --> 01:43:27,815
it is going to be heard on November the 19th.

1704
01:43:27,815 --> 01:43:31,155
You will be recirculated if you did receive the, uh,

1705
01:43:31,516 --> 01:43:36,055
first circulation. There may change the variances. They may not.

1706
01:43:36,055 --> 01:43:37,655
You can come to the committee. You don't have to

1707
01:43:37,676 --> 01:43:39,655
come in person. You can do it virtually if you

1708
01:43:39,655 --> 01:43:41,655
want. If that saves you some time or write a

1709
01:43:41,655 --> 01:43:45,095
lettering, whatever you prefer. So it's just giving them an

1710
01:43:45,095 --> 01:43:47,735
opportunity to hopefully to fix it so that when they

1711
01:43:47,735 --> 01:43:51,015
come back, they'll be dealing with it. Okay. Um, we've

1712
01:43:51,036 --> 01:43:53,975
deferred it. So we're not going to hear any thing.

1713
01:43:54,015 --> 01:43:55,895
Is there anything that you want to hand in or

1714
01:43:55,935 --> 01:43:59,458
whatever you can, uh, but anything else. Why didn't you

1715
01:43:59,458 --> 01:44:02,099
want it back? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No problem. Yeah. Sure.

1716
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,240
You're welcome. Um, so application's been deferred to November 19th.

1717
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:07,680
As I said, you're more than welcome to come back

1718
01:44:08,261 --> 01:44:10,800
or even register online if that saves you some time.

1719
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:17,764
Okay. Thank you. Next application is A254 located 422 Dixie

1720
01:44:17,764 --> 01:44:21,546
Road Unit 160. Is there anybody in the aids as

1721
01:44:21,546 --> 01:44:27,858
an interest in this application? No. Alexander. Yes. Mr. Chair

1722
01:44:27,898 --> 01:44:30,978
for this application. We have Oscar Manias registered. Oscar, you've

1723
01:44:30,978 --> 01:44:37,372
been unmuted. You can go ahead. Good afternoon. And members.

1724
01:44:38,519 --> 01:44:43,058
My name is Oscar Mannius. I'm the representative and partner

1725
01:44:43,058 --> 01:44:50,978
of the owner, uh, Miss Rossi at 4222 Dixon Road.

1726
01:44:50,978 --> 01:44:52,978
So you, uh, yeah, yeah, just give me a sec.

1727
01:44:52,978 --> 01:44:55,118
So you have favorable planning staff comments. So if you

1728
01:44:55,118 --> 01:44:57,698
want to give us a brief presentation on what you're

1729
01:44:57,698 --> 01:45:03,218
looking at doing, that'd be great. Okay. So, um, the,

1730
01:45:03,959 --> 01:45:09,218
uh, there's two variants. I guess that we were in

1731
01:45:09,319 --> 01:45:13,940
question. So there was the exterior side yard setback. Which

1732
01:45:14,041 --> 01:45:20,020
was, uh, the requirement is 4. 5 metres. And we

1733
01:45:20,521 --> 01:45:24,980
were asking for 4. 25, and, uh, which is pretty

1734
01:45:25,161 --> 01:45:31,700
minimal difference. And, um, the, uh, encroachment, the backyard encroachment

1735
01:45:32,281 --> 01:45:37,540
was one metre. And we were asking for 3. 23

1736
01:45:37,561 --> 01:45:45,780
metres. And, um, this encroachment for the backyard is, well,

1737
01:45:45,780 --> 01:45:48,420
I feel it's well within the, uh, limits of other

1738
01:45:48,841 --> 01:45:54,080
balcony encroachments in the same development. So we're just, uh,

1739
01:45:54,441 --> 01:46:02,907
requesting the, uh, approval of those two variances. Thank you.

1740
01:46:02,947 --> 01:46:06,107
Committee members, any questions or comments? Alexander comments, please. The

1741
01:46:06,147 --> 01:46:08,487
city has no objections to the application as amended. Um,

1742
01:46:08,848 --> 01:46:11,147
they're recommending amendments to both variances. The first one is

1743
01:46:11,248 --> 01:46:14,187
just technical noting that the setback is to the balcony.

1744
01:46:14,227 --> 01:46:17,387
The second one is noting that the encroachment is 3.

1745
01:46:17,488 --> 01:46:22,487
34 rather than the circulated 3. 23. And the bit

1746
01:46:22,487 --> 01:46:24,747
of a rewarding there as well. No written submissions receive

1747
01:46:24,768 --> 01:46:26,267
no members of the public kept pre - registered to

1748
01:46:26,267 --> 01:46:29,227
speak. Thank you. Um, sir, did you want to amend

1749
01:46:29,227 --> 01:46:37,067
the application to reflect planning stops comments? No, okay. Yes,

1750
01:46:37,107 --> 01:46:39,787
Sarah. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry for the confusion. I

1751
01:46:39,787 --> 01:46:41,867
just want to make a note here. Not a zoning

1752
01:46:41,968 --> 01:46:44,027
bylaw examiner. I don't know that I can explain exactly

1753
01:46:44,128 --> 01:46:48,027
how zoning has gotten to this measurement. But essentially they

1754
01:46:48,067 --> 01:46:51,547
take it from the setback. And then that's, or take

1755
01:46:51,547 --> 01:46:53,787
it from the required rear yard setback and measure the

1756
01:46:53,968 --> 01:46:56,705
difference in the balcony. As you see on the drawings

1757
01:46:56,745 --> 01:46:59,905
that are noted, it's dashed out and it notes of

1758
01:46:59,905 --> 01:47:03,665
3. 23 metre setback variants. In order for this to

1759
01:47:03,766 --> 01:47:05,905
not have issues when it comes to the building permit

1760
01:47:05,945 --> 01:47:08,785
process, I'm worried about tying this to the drawings because

1761
01:47:08,806 --> 01:47:11,505
of that, those, that minor change in numbers could cause

1762
01:47:11,606 --> 01:47:15,745
it to, to not be approved through what was approved

1763
01:47:15,745 --> 01:47:18,705
for the committee. I'm okay with the 3. 66 metres

1764
01:47:18,806 --> 01:47:22,545
versus the 3. 23. I'd rather them not tie it

1765
01:47:22,545 --> 01:47:26,186
to drawings if possible. Just because of that issue that

1766
01:47:26,186 --> 01:47:29,466
could be created if there's a technical issue that's owning

1767
01:47:29,727 --> 01:47:34,004
has. I don't have an issue with either setback. Just

1768
01:47:34,044 --> 01:47:37,684
want to make sure the wording is too zoning satisfaction.

1769
01:47:37,684 --> 01:47:41,764
Alexander, what do you think? Um, the amendments that are

1770
01:47:41,764 --> 01:47:44,864
written on the staff comments are provided by zoning. Um,

1771
01:47:45,145 --> 01:47:48,164
I would suggest that would probably be the safest route

1772
01:47:48,204 --> 01:47:51,444
to go just because that is being provided by them.

1773
01:47:51,444 --> 01:47:55,044
Uh, they're noting the, uh, encroachment of 3. 34, however,

1774
01:47:55,044 --> 01:47:56,724
which is a third number that I'm not sure exactly

1775
01:47:56,825 --> 01:48:01,466
where that's coming from. Through you, Mr. Chair. My understanding

1776
01:48:01,506 --> 01:48:03,546
is there could be just a difference in the drawings

1777
01:48:03,647 --> 01:48:07,146
that were submitted to BP versus the C of A.

1778
01:48:07,146 --> 01:48:10,026
So the 3. 66 is what was submitted to the

1779
01:48:10,047 --> 01:48:12,746
building permit, which is why I'm urging not to tie

1780
01:48:12,746 --> 01:48:14,506
it to the, to the drawings and just keep the

1781
01:48:15,167 --> 01:48:17,946
variance as it's worded as that's what's been reviewed by

1782
01:48:18,047 --> 01:48:22,106
zoning. And that's what I've confirmed informally. Good zoning that

1783
01:48:22,146 --> 01:48:26,346
would be the correct variance. The 3. 66 is the

1784
01:48:26,346 --> 01:48:28,826
one that you think should be instead of 3. 34.

1785
01:48:30,873 --> 01:48:34,132
No, sorry. The variance should be word at 3. 34

1786
01:48:34,313 --> 01:48:37,172
as zonings noted. It's just that the drawings. Oh, okay.

1787
01:48:37,172 --> 01:48:39,412
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Right. Okay. Yeah. That's fine. You don't

1788
01:48:39,452 --> 01:48:42,052
yet. That's okay. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I think we

1789
01:48:42,233 --> 01:48:47,188
try to figure out what zoning stealing too. So it's

1790
01:48:47,188 --> 01:48:50,788
been amended, Sarah spoken. I think Alexander needs to speak.

1791
01:48:51,689 --> 01:48:54,548
Um, cities and objections to the application as amended. No

1792
01:48:54,588 --> 01:48:56,308
written submissions received no members of the public. If you

1793
01:48:56,348 --> 01:48:59,271
register to speak. Again, is anybody in the audience has

1794
01:48:59,271 --> 01:49:04,071
an interest in application A254 at 4222 Dixie Road Unit

1795
01:49:04,332 --> 01:49:08,810
160. Oscar, is anything else you wish to add or

1796
01:49:08,810 --> 01:49:12,810
are you good to go? I think that's, that's great.

1797
01:49:12,850 --> 01:49:16,890
That's great. It's fine. Okay. Uh, ready for a motion,

1798
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:20,010
Mr. Page. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Move approval the amended application

1799
01:49:20,191 --> 01:49:23,850
meets a four tests. Um, not in conformance of the

1800
01:49:23,890 --> 01:49:26,842
drawings. Do I have a second, Mrs. Robinson? Thank you,

1801
01:49:26,842 --> 01:49:29,723
Mr. Chairman. I'll second the motion. Committee members, any discussion

1802
01:49:29,763 --> 01:49:34,639
on the motion. All those in favor. Sir, your application

1803
01:49:34,679 --> 01:49:38,389
has been approved by the committee as amended. Thank you.

1804
01:49:38,429 --> 01:49:40,809
Thank you. Have a good day. Thank you very much.

1805
01:49:40,910 --> 01:49:46,409
Thank you. Next application is A257 located 5218 Fallingbrook Drive.

1806
01:49:46,409 --> 01:49:47,769
Is there anybody in the United States and interest in

1807
01:49:47,809 --> 01:49:51,862
this application? Are you the applicant or a neighbour. You're

1808
01:49:51,862 --> 01:49:56,582
the neighbour? Okay. Um, Alexander, do you wish to? Yes,

1809
01:49:56,582 --> 01:49:59,782
Mr. Chair for this application. We have Ahmad Khan registered.

1810
01:49:59,782 --> 01:50:05,052
Ahmad, you've been unmuted. You can go ahead. Good afternoon

1811
01:50:05,633 --> 01:50:09,772
to Mr. Chair and Committee members, miners are. And if

1812
01:50:09,772 --> 01:50:12,172
you're new, Mr. Kat, have you seen planning staff's comments.

1813
01:50:13,090 --> 01:50:15,389
Yes, I have. And what are you going to do?

1814
01:50:15,389 --> 01:50:16,589
You're going to defer, or do you want to get

1815
01:50:16,629 --> 01:50:23,047
turned down today? I will differ. Yeah. That's, is that

1816
01:50:23,047 --> 01:50:27,306
a question or is that a statement. Is that, can

1817
01:50:27,306 --> 01:50:32,170
I present and get deferred if is needed. No. You

1818
01:50:32,271 --> 01:50:35,050
want to present it and then deferred if you don't

1819
01:50:35,231 --> 01:50:38,748
think it's going in the right direction. Yes. Yeah. Well,

1820
01:50:38,788 --> 01:50:40,028
I'm going to tell you it's not going in the

1821
01:50:40,028 --> 01:50:42,508
right direction. So I don't think you need to make

1822
01:50:42,529 --> 01:50:44,988
any comments. So I think that your best bet is

1823
01:50:45,028 --> 01:50:47,468
to defer. There's like you can't, we've got a pitcher

1824
01:50:47,508 --> 01:50:50,348
on site that you've got a car parked parallel to

1825
01:50:50,388 --> 01:50:53,548
the street. I mean, that's not what, you know, parking

1826
01:50:53,588 --> 01:50:56,268
in the city of Mississauga has intended to do so.

1827
01:50:56,449 --> 01:51:00,428
My suggestion to use deferred sit down with staff and

1828
01:51:00,468 --> 01:51:04,268
work something out, um, can't talk for the rest of

1829
01:51:04,268 --> 01:51:05,468
the committee, but I'm going to talk for the rest

1830
01:51:05,508 --> 01:51:07,068
of the committee. I don't think you're going to approve

1831
01:51:07,108 --> 01:51:16,015
today. Okay. November 19th work for you. Yes. Okay. So

1832
01:51:16,516 --> 01:51:19,295
application will be deferred to November 19th. Do you know

1833
01:51:19,295 --> 01:51:24,255
who you're, Sarah? Is your planner? If you don't have

1834
01:51:24,436 --> 01:51:27,615
a contact information, reach out to Alexander tomorrow or the

1835
01:51:27,615 --> 01:51:29,455
committee. They'll give it to you. Uh, you have to

1836
01:51:29,476 --> 01:51:31,615
till October the 9th at hand in documents. And then

1837
01:51:31,615 --> 01:51:35,802
we'll see you back on the 19th. Okay. Committee satisfied

1838
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to defer? Satisfy. Applications ready for, sir. I'm sorry you

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have to wait through this, but we're going to defer

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it. And hopefully they'll be able to reduce this when

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they come back. They may need some variances. And then,

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but hopefully it won't look like this after we're done

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with them. Okay. All right. Thank you. That ends our

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agenda for today. Thanks, everybody.