1 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,600 Mayor, I do believe Mayor Toe will be absent this evening. Thank you, sir. 2 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,100 It is six o'clock, and I will call the 3 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:42,520 Mozilla City Council meeting of May 17th to order. This is a Zoom webinar. There are a number of 4 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:49,220 instructions that allow you to participate in this meeting of the seeping. Those are on your screen now. If you're 5 00:07:49,220 --> 00:07:56,580 participating via a computer and can see the screen. If you're dialing in you can certainly participate 6 00:07:56,580 --> 00:08:03,800 as well. You're raising your hand by pressing star nine and muting and unmuting using star six 7 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:12,620 and I'll recognize phone callers by the last four digits of their phone number. I will note 8 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:23,600 for the record. It appears that Ms. West, Ms. Mr. Hess and Ms. Bacera and Ms. Anderson are absent. 9 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,560 Mr. Hess is here. My apologies. 10 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:32,980 All other council members are present. We have 11 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:37,420 minutes of the meeting of May 10th. And without objection, I'll be approved. 12 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:41,640 Seeing none, we will move 13 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,320 We're going to our schedule of committee meetings. 14 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Okay, 15 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,900 tonight we're scheduling our committee meetings for May 19th. 16 00:09:12,020 --> 00:09:16,900 Just like the city council meeting tonight, these meetings are being held via Zoom webinar. 17 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:23,860 If you go to the city's main webpage and click on that meetings tab in the middle of the page, 18 00:09:23,860 --> 00:09:26,840 it'll take you to agenda central for all of the city's meetings. 19 00:09:27,740 --> 00:09:32,260 And the agendas for each of these four committee meetings are listed there. 20 00:09:32,260 --> 00:09:42,840 And if you open up that agenda you'll find out all the information about how to join the these meetings either the computer or the telephone. 21 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,080 And so here we go. 22 00:09:45,460 --> 00:09:52,380 The latest and planning committee will meet from one o'clock to two o'clock on Wednesday, May 19th. 23 00:09:52,380 --> 00:10:00,020 uh the uh administration of finance committee meets from 215 to 245 parks and conservation 24 00:10:00,020 --> 00:10:06,060 committee will meet from 3 o'clock 320 um and there's been a slight change to public works 25 00:10:06,060 --> 00:10:10,980 that got a little bit longer um from the schedule that we published on Friday it's 25 minute 26 00:10:10,980 --> 00:10:19,560 meaning now it starts at 3 35 and goes until 4 o'clock thank you to 3 by any changes to the committee 27 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:21,300 be scheduled for this week. 28 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,840 All right, seeing none, we will move on 29 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,720 to the public comment portion of our agenda. 30 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,640 This is your opportunity to comment on items 31 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,980 not all square on your agenda. 32 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:36,760 We'd ask that you keep your comments to about three minutes. 33 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:45,200 And going to the audience, we have Mr. Decker. 34 00:10:50,530 --> 00:10:50,990 Thanks, Mayor. 35 00:10:53,030 --> 00:10:54,090 My name is Josh Decker. 36 00:10:54,090 --> 00:10:56,230 I'm a resident award one. 37 00:10:58,650 --> 00:11:01,670 I don't need to tell any of you that Missoula is in the midst of a housing crisis. 38 00:11:03,470 --> 00:11:19,990 I'm calling to at this point beg you to take immediate action on some things that can stop the occurrence of what amounts to evictions month to month leases are being terminated at an alarming rate in town. 39 00:11:21,270 --> 00:11:36,190 And rents are being raised at a rate that amounts, you know, the rent increases amount to an eviction themselves. Some folks are facing 20, 40, 60, even 100% rent increases with 30 days notice. 40 00:11:36,190 --> 00:11:44,730 And that is an eviction for a Mizzouli and that's a member of the working class. 41 00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:56,950 I would beg you to implement strict harsh and restrictive regulations on Airbnb to increase the housing stock. 42 00:11:57,590 --> 00:12:06,570 I would beg you to rework the operating procedures associated with TIFF funding 43 00:12:06,570 --> 00:12:12,310 so that it is used primarily and exclusively as a source for affordable housing. 44 00:12:12,510 --> 00:12:21,470 I would beg you to implement immediate rent freezes and rent control. 45 00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:25,490 I would beg you to 46 00:12:27,310 --> 00:12:34,030 institute inclusionary zoning with a plan to litigate its legality knowing that it is not, 47 00:12:34,030 --> 00:12:40,230 not, you know, strictly legal in terms of the statewide legislation, but Council has 48 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:49,250 introduced plans before that involved the prospective immediate litigation, such as with 49 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:57,300 Board President von Lossberg's Second Amendment restrictions in the Zula. 50 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:13,140 I would beg you to eliminate previous criminal history as a disqualifying factor for folks seeking 51 00:13:13,140 --> 00:13:13,860 rentals. 52 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:24,020 If folks have served their time, then their debt to society is paid and they shouldn't be impugned 53 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:33,080 in their housing search, out beg you to form a temporary safe parking space, similar 54 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:39,840 to the temporary safe outdoor living space, so that folks that find themselves newly 55 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:48,240 homeless have a place to park their vehicles at the very least, that that involves relaxing 56 00:13:48,240 --> 00:14:12,700 taxing, camping, restrictions, and what not, that's fine, do it immediately and I would beg council to immediately form a collectivized background check that is housed in some department, some housing department of the city so that folks can have a on file background check, 57 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:26,780 check credit check for landlords to access so that they're not subject to multiple forty and fifty dollar application fees in their fruitless search for housing in the 1% vacancy market. 58 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,760 And that's about three and a half minutes, Mr. Becker. 59 00:14:30,940 --> 00:14:35,280 I implore you to take action on any and all of those items. 60 00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:37,780 Thank you. Have a good day. 61 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,140 Thank you. 62 00:14:42,690 --> 00:14:44,190 And Hannah Kosoel. 63 00:14:45,950 --> 00:14:48,350 Hi there. My name is Hannah Kosoel. 64 00:14:48,890 --> 00:14:52,430 I'm a resident award for in August. 65 00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:54,350 I'm here to share my housing story as well. 66 00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:58,750 In August, I'll be celebrating two years of residency in Mozilla. 67 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:29,600 And doing that by moving into my third rental in my time here, somewhere in Montana, as we all know, is a joyous time of river floats and huckleberry foraging. But for so many renters, it can also be a season of dread filled with hours and hours of priceless hunting, crunching the budget just to make ends meet as you're going to put down yet another security deposit on a place that you're likely not able to stay at for more than a year. My roommates and I currently live in the university district 68 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,180 in a house that's been made into three separate units. 69 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,400 We have not yet been given written notice, 70 00:15:36,820 --> 00:15:38,800 but in conversations with our landlords 71 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,120 after a steady stream of unmasked contractors 72 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,780 on our property, 73 00:15:43,340 --> 00:15:44,980 we learned that our landlords will be moving 74 00:15:44,980 --> 00:15:46,300 into the whole home 75 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:49,040 that will eliminate three rental units in town 76 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:51,320 and displacing seven young adults as well. 77 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Knowing that housing will only get worse 78 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,820 as student leases come to an end at the end of summer. 79 00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:58,840 I recently made the decision 80 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,700 to pay double rent for the next few months just so that I can make sure I have a place that's secured 81 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:09,980 in town. I also work in housing on a city level and I'm helping distribute funds for the emergency 82 00:16:09,980 --> 00:16:15,860 rental assistance program in Montana. I'm keenly aware of how universal this need for affordable and 83 00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:20,940 secure housing is in our community. Not only have I helped tenants apply for assistance but I've 84 00:16:20,940 --> 00:16:25,320 helped employees at property management companies also apply for this current round of funding. 85 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Yeah, no one is bent from this at all. 86 00:16:30,980 --> 00:16:33,520 And reflecting on the recent state legislative session, 87 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:36,960 I was inspired by initiatives like House Bill 533 88 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,360 and Senate Bill 241. 89 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Both of these would help ensure refunds for rental application 90 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,820 fees and increase returns on security deposits as well. 91 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,260 However, I was really disappointed to see that both of these died in committee 92 00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:56,140 and that a bayonet inclusionary zoning was something that passed through the legislative session. 93 00:16:56,940 --> 00:17:01,080 So today I'm here to ask the council, how can we support mentors, 94 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,360 OAs in our community and especially in the next upcoming months 95 00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:08,960 as the federal eviction moratorium will come to a close 96 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,580 and families are going to experience a rapid decrease in income 97 00:17:13,260 --> 00:17:15,740 with the end of unemployment funds in our state as well. 98 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,080 So I look forward to these answers, these future discussions 99 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,260 and thank you for your time. 100 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,080 Thank you. 101 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:29,480 And I will note the record that Ms. West and Ms. Anderson are in attendance. 102 00:17:30,260 --> 00:17:31,260 Daniel Carlino. 103 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Thanks. Can you hear me? 104 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,000 We can. 105 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:38,900 Great. My name is Daniel Carlino. 106 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:41,740 I'm a resident board three for the meantime. 107 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:47,080 And I'm also actually running for City Council on board three to help represent renters 108 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,760 and take urgent action on our housing crisis. 109 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:59,340 And I'm just here today to also comment about our housing crisis and hopefully to just help push person solutions. 110 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Like essential workers in Missoula, just really can't afford to live here anymore. 111 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:13,980 And for example, with my job, I work with different young people in town who have a few different mental disabilities and just kind of go throughout their day with them. 112 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:21,200 And I'm still just bringing home enough to basically half my pay goes towards rent each month. 113 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,720 And it's just making it really hard. 114 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:34,060 And last week my landlord gave my brothers and roommates and I are 30-day notice to leave our house. 115 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:39,680 And just trying to find somewhere to rent in Missoula right now. 116 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:46,820 especially in Ward 3 if I could still try and run for office if run for city council there is just almost impossible. 117 00:18:47,540 --> 00:18:55,380 Every rental I've called just already has dozens of applicants like by the day it's posted and 30 days just isn't long enough for Muslims. 118 00:18:56,460 --> 00:19:03,720 And I hope to, you know, see our essential workers and artists and people that make Missoula, Missoula, be able to stay here. 119 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:13,220 I feel really lucky to get to live in Missoula and we're just all here to comment to ask City Council to put in regulations to help with housing. 120 00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:29,120 We cannot build our way out of the housing crisis with, you know, quote, quote, like affordable housing units and took like different housing projects, we can't build our way out without regulation on housing. 121 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:34,000 So that's what renters of Missoula are trying to ask of you all. 122 00:19:34,580 --> 00:19:39,760 Josh Decker mentioned a bunch of, you know, you know, good actions. 123 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:46,300 And I'm hoping that you all can find something that you can do immediately to help renters in Missoula. 124 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:54,180 One thing that came to mind for me is all that I think it's over $40 million that the city and county are getting for federal. 125 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:02,820 COVID really funds, that would be, this would be a great time to help use those to subsidize rent or help with people's housing. 126 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:13,380 And I'd also like to see TIFF funds not go towards, you know, billionaire companies anymore and go towards subsidizing housing or building shelters and fully funding. 127 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:20,300 Things like the new YWCA shelter, but rather not seeing millions go to the wrong places. 128 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:28,920 So we just need, we just need you all to do something, please, for us for renters and for people that are struggling in our community before it's too late. 129 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:46,540 So we're hoping that City Council and the American implement some housing regulations, maybe limiting Airbnb's, maybe using TIFF or the COVID relief funds to help with housing, or just you all probably know the best, but we need you to do something more, please. 130 00:20:46,540 --> 00:20:48,400 before we all get kicked out in 131 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,920 Missoula. So I'm hoping to get 132 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,700 to stay in Missoula, but I'm 133 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,740 definitely on the edge of, you 134 00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:54,560 know, I have to find somewhere 135 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,120 to live in the next few weeks. 136 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 And it's pretty unlikely to find 137 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,200 something like that unless 138 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,680 unless you know somebody that 139 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,960 will let you live at their place. 140 00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:05,280 So please do something. 141 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,020 You know, we need to start viewing 142 00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:10,280 housing as a basic human right. 143 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,820 And that needs to be shown through 144 00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:15,220 policies and city ordinances that you 145 00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:19,740 all pass. So let's please not let the greed of landlords and the greed of 146 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:24,480 developers take over our city and drive out the people that make Missoula 147 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,020 Missoula. I know we all love this place and I would really like to see us do 148 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:33,820 something to see you all do something to help with housing before it's too 149 00:21:33,820 --> 00:21:36,900 right. It was 150 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,380 four minutes. Thank you, Mr. Carlin. And the baby Warren 151 00:21:55,620 --> 00:22:13,960 I would love to share my experience a little bit as a renderer and as well as someone who has experienced gender-based harassment and to bring some light to how those things overlap in Miss Elizabeth's housing crisis that based so many of us. 152 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:23,520 I am a young woman who lives alone and earlier this year I was pretty seriously harassed by an adult male neighbor. 153 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:31,140 I had a peeping tom. I was screamed at. My door was constantly banged. I received very unwelcome letters. 154 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,120 was a police department to which I was told that he sounded like a nice guy, and I really 155 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:43,440 credit older person, but Von Lasberg for his help in navigating the situation. 156 00:22:43,540 --> 00:22:48,220 I admittedly found it to be embarrassing as someone who ran the women's resource center 157 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:52,520 for two years at the University of Montana to find myself in a position where I felt so 158 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:52,920 helpless. 159 00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:56,060 Repeatedly, I was told, well, why don't you just move? 160 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,260 Well, why don't you just move? 161 00:22:57,260 --> 00:23:00,620 There were so few available rentals. 162 00:23:01,020 --> 00:23:05,720 I was so underserved by our public safety softholds. 163 00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:09,400 And, you know, it was really disheartening. 164 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:12,560 And I think it's, there was a lot of contention 165 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,660 last year when considering there was a low-place 166 00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:15,340 department budget. 167 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:18,920 I think that a lot of the direction that was taken 168 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,320 when considering Theresa budget was a look at crime 169 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520 in our community, a study of criminology in college. 170 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:34,280 I think that a major crime that takes place in our community that all of us can agree is wrong and such a stain on our community is gender-based violence and harassment. 171 00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:41,100 And I think I come to you just so disappointed as someone who felt so underserved, who has been in that position. 172 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:46,920 And whilst I also witnessed throughout this past week, the rates that took place on 173 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,880 Broadway Island for our neighbors were living on house, and I think that, unfortunately, 174 00:23:51,140 --> 00:23:55,420 I feel like people who experienced under-based violence and harassment have been scapegoated, 175 00:23:55,860 --> 00:24:00,760 not just in Missoula County, but across our country to elevate police budgets when people 176 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,780 in those situations can't count on them to protect them and keep them safe. 177 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:10,280 And I really do acknowledge the wonderful work that has been done through TIFF with 178 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,780 the Y2BCI with Powerola Center with a bunch of collaborative community partnerships, 179 00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:19,420 but I just come with the thought that it feels very disproportionate, the amount of 180 00:24:19,420 --> 00:24:20,620 spending that's being spent. 181 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,600 And I think that we're diggering ourselves in a deeper whole, incidentally, when we incentivize 182 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,100 development, people in my neighborhood are being priced out of our rentals, making us predisposed 183 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,320 or vulnerable to homelessness. 184 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,520 And even if we got a job at one of the developments, for example, in my neighborhood, it looks like 185 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,720 hotels, but it looks like a lot of things in other other neighborhoods. None of us compare 186 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,900 rent, cleaning hotel rooms or working in the front desk. For example, I live really 187 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:56,140 close to the H.C. hotel. So, you know, I think that we're in a very circular issue here 188 00:24:56,140 --> 00:25:01,800 with how we address TIFF, and I just would really like to strongly encourage more accountability 189 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,960 with TIFF, more thoughtfulness, because I think that we're unintentionally contributing 190 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,080 to a problem that is costing us a lot more to fix and we could have ever imagined. 191 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:16,400 And then again, I really want to say I appreciate Elder Percent Van Lossberg for his helping me 192 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,460 navigate that situation earlier this year. Thanks so much. 193 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,640 Thank you. 194 00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:24,660 Sarah Ibus. 195 00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:36,070 Hi, my name is Sarah Ibus. I'm a resident of Ward 6. I saw on today's agenda that housing was 196 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:41,870 on the agenda and given our city's emerging actions against people experiencing homelessness. 197 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:46,750 I thought it was a good time for me to make my voice heard. I'm specifically offering comment 198 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:51,730 on actions taken on May 11th and 12th by the Mizzoula Police Department and Mizzoula Parks and Rec. 199 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:56,470 On these days people experiencing homelessness were forcibly removed from enhancements 200 00:25:57,110 --> 00:26:02,950 along with the islands on Broadway Avenue. The action was taken without consult or support from 201 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:06,350 community organizations like the Hope Rescue Mission and the Poverla Center. 202 00:26:07,090 --> 00:26:11,650 It is shameful to hear that Missoulu Police Department resulted to using force specifically 203 00:26:11,650 --> 00:26:15,910 shooting at least one person with rubber bullets and destroying the belongings of many other 204 00:26:15,910 --> 00:26:16,270 people. 205 00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:24,710 It is unsurprising to literally anyone that the people involved were angry and acted as such. 206 00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:31,490 It was a very human reaction to public officials acting in a dehumanizing way and it was a very 207 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:35,330 human reaction in the face of loss, displacement and powerlessness. 208 00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:40,750 While there is a definite need for solutions that offer safe spaces for people experiencing 209 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:46,870 homelessness, I cannot stress enough how villainizing and dehumanizing the city's actions 210 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:49,030 and language has been over the last week. 211 00:26:50,030 --> 00:26:54,490 Mayor Angus office has said that these actions were taken for the public good, but it appears 212 00:26:54,490 --> 00:26:58,570 to be a heavy-handed attempt at protecting his tip-funded park project, not because the 213 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:01,850 Mayor Ashley cares about the health safety or well-being of people on the island. 214 00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:06,270 Mayor Endan has specifically shifted blame to the Mozilla Police Department and to 215 00:27:06,270 --> 00:27:07,130 Mozilla Parks and Rec. 216 00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:12,930 But it has his office and this council's responsibility to offer a just solution for 217 00:27:12,930 --> 00:27:13,510 what happened. 218 00:27:14,430 --> 00:27:18,850 I'm requesting formal follow-up from this council or from my specific council member, Ms. 219 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:19,250 Paseca. 220 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:23,730 Specifically, I want to know what was the involvement of the mayor's office? 221 00:27:23,730 --> 00:27:29,150 who authorize Mizzoula Police Department and Parks and Rec to take this action and to use force. 222 00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:34,870 What portion of the current city and police budget is set aside for forceful removal of homeless 223 00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:41,790 encampments? What's homelessness in Mizzoula used to increase police budgets? Why were vested 224 00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:47,670 organizations like Hope Rescue and the Pavarelo Center not involved? And finally, who is working to 225 00:27:47,670 --> 00:27:52,950 seriously address Mizzoula's housing shortages and provide long-term shelter for people 226 00:27:52,950 --> 00:28:01,730 experience in homelessness. Thank you. Thank you and Kenzie. 227 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:06,310 Hi all, can you hear me? 228 00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:13,410 We can. Thank you. Brilliant. Hello, my name is Kenzie Carter. I am a resident of Ward 3 229 00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:23,230 and I am just here to chat as it's been a theme of the evening. I'm here to talk about housing. 230 00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:37,710 I know that Missoula faces a housing crisis, I've been dipping my toes in the world of affordable housing over the past six months and have been rapidly absorbing the infinite amount of information that there is. 231 00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:46,330 It seems to be never ending and I am really appreciative of everyone on this call and off this call who's helped me kind of figure figure this stuff out. 232 00:28:46,330 --> 00:29:10,870 That being said, the housing crisis is doing one of two things to our renting population, it's either actively displacing members of our community due to rent increases and lack of livable wages or it's holding members of our community hostage and barely affordable and often undesirable and or dangerous living conditions due to the fear that they won't be able to find another place to live in this like wonderful mountain town that we call home. 233 00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:14,910 I have been a renter facing uncertainty. 234 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:23,510 My rental was sold out from under me a couple of years ago without much warning and searching for housing even then was utterly slow rushing. 235 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:35,890 I'm currently in a stable, though undesirable position housing wise, but I do not take that for granted and know that if I suddenly needed to find housing, I simply wouldn't be able to. 236 00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:41,010 I also understand that there are measures being taken by the city to address the crisis. 237 00:29:41,670 --> 00:29:47,310 I'm really genuinely thrilled about the Affordable Housing Trust Fund and the resident oversight committee. 238 00:29:47,790 --> 00:29:53,490 Those are heartening actions that will dealt with some positive impacts on the housing situation. And I'm also aware that. 239 00:29:53,490 --> 00:29:59,890 Um, tip has been used as Maggie and Daniel noted, um, for some. 240 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:08,920 I'm also aware that most landlords tend to all lives on the state level and it's difficult 241 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:19,660 to navigate as a municipality. However, I would encourage you, beg you, as Josh did to 242 00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:28,960 think creatively and with untethered imagination when it comes to our housing crisis. I know that some ideas were listed earlier. 243 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:35,280 and I am also appreciative of all the person merits interaction in a Facebook 244 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,360 thread that I was privy to it was it was encouraging to see that interaction. 245 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,820 Anyway thank you all for listening and yeah that's that's all leave you be. 246 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Thank you 247 00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:56,110 and the view. 248 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,100 Hi can you hear me? 249 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:02,820 We can. 250 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,320 Thank you. 251 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:03,620 Okay. 252 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,440 Thank you Mr. Mayor. 253 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:15,440 I am commenting, I'm here to comment also on the housing crisis, and I want to start by saying I'm here in solidarity with the renters and the most vulnerable. 254 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:29,060 But also, I'm here as someone who's approaching my 20th year of living in Missoula, and someone who's had several professional positions in town. 255 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:38,240 I have a good job in Missoula and when I go on Zillow right now, there's about three 256 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:45,280 apartments that fall underneath the housing burden line of 30% of my income and one of 257 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,580 them is a studio and I've lived here 20 years, I've raised two children in this town and 258 00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:57,360 in some ways, I'm exactly the type of person who the promise of public policy and the promise 259 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:09,120 of, like, growth policy should be trying to keep. And as I'm trying to buy a house, there's 260 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,200 absolutely no way I can stay in Missoula. There's just none. My children are not able 261 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:22,220 to find rentals. And this crisis reaches levels that are beyond just the most vulnerable. 262 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:41,900 And so, in addition to being here in solidarity with the vulnerable, I just want to mark that the housing crisis climbs higher in some ways, not that it's any bigger priority, but without some sort of drastic action. 263 00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:49,000 And, and soon, people who have been here for decades are not going to be able to continue to be here. 264 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:55,400 Like, I have a roommate. I have a professional position and I can't afford to live alone right now. 265 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,980 Much less my children being able to find reasonable accommodations. 266 00:33:02,020 --> 00:33:03,500 Oh, thank you. 267 00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:05,680 Oh, I'm a resident of Ward 3. 268 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:07,580 Thank you very much. 269 00:33:07,580 --> 00:33:08,180 of 270 00:33:11,730 --> 00:33:13,610 the Andy Housel Council 271 00:33:16,390 --> 00:33:24,240 a couple of comments tonight one is I want to tell you 272 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:31,920 about my neighbor who lives a few houses down from me in a duplex I have been 273 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:38,080 lucky enough to have lived in my home for 12ish years and that neighbor has 274 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,760 been there almost 16 years as of the end of this month she and the children that 275 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,240 she raised on this street will be unhoused. 276 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:51,960 They will be living in the best of circumstances 277 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,740 at this point. 278 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,800 They will be living in a camper moving 279 00:33:55,740 --> 00:33:57,780 nightly in order to avoid harassment 280 00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:00,060 from the police around town. 281 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,780 Well, she continues to find a way 282 00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:05,460 to get her children to their high school 283 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,620 and continues to get herself to her two jobs. 284 00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:12,220 When my neighbors and I organized the right letters 285 00:34:12,220 --> 00:34:21,600 to the property owner to request that her lease not to be ended. Again, this is not eviction 286 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,300 in the formal sense, but it is an eviction. 287 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:30,640 He has said that he sees this as an opportunity 288 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:36,500 for her to go find somewhere else, but he wants to do repairs on the place. Well, over the last 289 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:41,400 16 years, he hasn't wanted to do repairs on the place. And there's a way that if the motivation was 290 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:48,720 to keep this neighbor in her house, he could easily find a way to do those repairs and keep her there. 291 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:55,340 That is clearly not the goal. The goal is clearly to have her removed to do the repairs and then to 292 00:34:55,340 --> 00:35:03,640 rent it out for more. So I understand and I am told repeatedly by members of council that the authority 293 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,260 that council has is limited. I understand that. I also understand that there is a lot of good work 294 00:35:09,260 --> 00:35:14,120 that has happened over the course of the last two years, especially with regard to things 295 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,020 that we will one day get to benefit from. Some of the things that are being built now, 296 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,320 unfortunately folks who are unhoused or looking for new rentals are not able to benefit from those 297 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,760 things because they're still in process. So that leads me to the next thing I'd like to say, 298 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:39,300 which is we need to end the completely absurd policing of our unhoused neighbors. 299 00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:47,280 I got a call from a woman yesterday who said my trailer was was towed. I've been getting 300 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,780 harassed by the police every night. I can't move it every night because I don't have the hookups 301 00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:57,500 to drive it to a new location and park it somewhere else. So then I get all of this 302 00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:02,620 leave harassment and they told it somewhere miles out by the airport, the smoke jumper center, 303 00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:08,900 and now I have to go get it. This is where I'm living, because I don't have housing. 304 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,440 I have this voucher, but I don't have any apartment that will accept this voucher right now. 305 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:20,980 So all of it from, and then she says to me, well, I also can't get it because I have 306 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:27,960 These, you know, homeless charges, so for using the power in an outlet that doesn't belong 307 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:33,720 to me, for, I mean, we need, in the meantime, while we're addressing this housing crisis, 308 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,460 there are things that you can do, because I know that there's a pretty nice relationship 309 00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:41,360 between the mayor's office and the police department. 310 00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:49,580 So to spend this absolutely unnecessary policing of our unhoused neighbors, being homeless is 311 00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:59,180 not a crime. So whether it's bathroom, laundry, power, parking outside of somewhere, sleeping 312 00:36:59,180 --> 00:37:07,700 in your car, we need to completely end any criminalizing of that behavior, because it's only 313 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:15,740 going to increase all over the city. In campments, those are people's homes. Those are human beings 314 00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:20,840 who deserve the same dignity and respect that you get every day when you walk down the street. 315 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:22,380 They deserve it too. 316 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,280 They don't deserve somebody coming in there and forcibly removing their things, their 317 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,740 few possessions, and treating them like trash who are an eye sore for the Missoulians that 318 00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:33,160 you are trying to draw to this town. 319 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,160 So I beg you to, while trying to address this housing crisis, three people who do not have 320 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,840 housing with the respect and dignity they deserve. 321 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,120 Thank you. 322 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:49,640 So thank you and Mr. Angelo. 323 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:55,520 Good evening, Mayor and City Council. 324 00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:59,020 My name is Mark Anderlich. I live in Ward 2. 325 00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:04,540 And Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 326 00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:09,040 and the International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights 327 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,680 all proclaim housing as an essential human right. 328 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,580 If you were to look at those two documents, you would see being a landlord is not a human 329 00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:19,920 right. 330 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:23,060 So let's keep that in perspective. 331 00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:30,560 And I'm not going to repeat what a lot of other good comments made, but I would suggest 332 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,860 the following four things before we do become Jackson Wyoming. 333 00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:38,700 One is to suspend no camping ordinance. 334 00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:45,400 as Andy had just said it's ridiculous to criminalize this and more and more 335 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,940 of people that I know as well and are living out of their campers and are 336 00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:58,780 having to evade detection and whatnot. We should we should do much better than 337 00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:07,280 that. I think also absolutely should ban criminal background checks. I know a 338 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,900 woman who's looking for a place, she's been straightened out her life. She says, 339 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:18,560 why am I going to try because I'm not going to be able to get this place because I have a criminal 340 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:29,420 background. That's not acceptable. Third is the deposit, even in a homeward home, they ask for 341 00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:37,480 deposit a fee for applying for even looking at the apartment and that should be banned as well. 342 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:45,780 And the last would be and this is more aspirational. I think that there's got to be some way 343 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:53,020 of instituting rent control because right now the market is driving people out of Mozilla. 344 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,400 I think 345 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:05,620 in its place. So thank you very much. I know this is a difficult issue, but this is an emergency. 346 00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:10,940 I can't believe how many people I have heard who have been evicted out of their homes. 347 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:17,600 So landlords can raise the rent and rent to more people coming in with money apparently. 348 00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:25,040 So thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Andrew. And seeing no additional general public comment 349 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,360 We will move on to our consent agenda. 350 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,480 Items there were approved unanimously in the City Council standing committees. 351 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:38,160 We consider these items all at once on Monday evening to save a little time. 352 00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:46,240 Ms. Raybine will read the list of consent agenda items allowed and will take comment and discussion for council numbers before we vote. 353 00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:47,200 Ms. Raybine. 354 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:49,990 Thanks, Mayor. 355 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:55,570 again tonight's consent agenda is pretty short, we only have three items. The first is to approve 356 00:40:55,570 --> 00:41:07,950 the city's accounts payable for checks dated May 18, 2021, in the amount of $879,320 and 62 cents. 357 00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:15,190 Number two is to confirm the mayor's appointments to the affordable housing oversight committee as 358 00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:25,350 follows Jerry Stiffarm as a community member with a term to be June 1st, 2021 through May 31st, 359 00:41:25,390 --> 00:41:36,170 of 2024. Misty Brown as a housing nonprofit member with a term to begin June 1st of 2021 360 00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:44,990 through May 31st of 2023. Riley Jacobson as the first alternate with a term that also begins on June 361 00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:53,930 first 2021 and that one ends on May 31st of 2022 and finally number three is to confirm 362 00:41:53,930 --> 00:41:58,770 the mayor's appointment of James McCay to the downtown business improvement district 363 00:42:00,010 --> 00:42:08,790 as a representative for zone two for a term that begins on June 1st 2021 and ends on May 31st of 364 00:42:10,330 --> 00:42:10,890 2525. 365 00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:12,610 Thank you, Ms. Raybine. 366 00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,910 Questions or comments from councilmembers? 367 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:15,750 Mr. Ramos. 368 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:17,490 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 369 00:42:17,650 --> 00:42:25,230 Can we please divide the question and vote on item 5.1 separately due to another $20,000 going to Franken's Kool-E for the water litigation? 370 00:42:26,050 --> 00:42:26,490 Yes, sir. 371 00:42:27,310 --> 00:42:27,590 Thank you. 372 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:35,930 Seeing no additional comments, anyone in any of the attendees could comment on consent agenda items. 373 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:44,120 We'll see no hands up there. We'll have a roll call vote on item 5.1 please. That's very bad. 374 00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:49,050 Okay, that is the accounts payable. 375 00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:56,670 Consent agenda item number one, Anderson. Yes. 376 00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:59,230 Contos. 377 00:43:00,070 --> 00:43:00,430 No. 378 00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:02,890 Yes. 379 00:43:03,470 --> 00:43:04,250 Yes. 380 00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:05,050 Yes. 381 00:43:05,850 --> 00:43:06,230 Yes. 382 00:43:07,050 --> 00:43:07,210 Yes. 383 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:12,220 Marin. 384 00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:13,160 Yes. 385 00:43:13,820 --> 00:43:14,880 We're almost. 386 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:15,800 No. 387 00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:19,320 Cheryl. 388 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,500 Yes. 389 00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:22,820 Vesica. 390 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:23,820 No. 391 00:43:24,940 --> 00:43:25,920 Fun. 392 00:43:25,940 --> 00:43:26,340 Last bird. 393 00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:27,060 Yes. 394 00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:28,820 West. 395 00:43:29,420 --> 00:43:29,720 Yes. 396 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,380 And would it any of you like to change your vote? 397 00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:44,640 that is eight i's and three nays and one absent and item one is approved uh and on items two and three 398 00:43:44,640 --> 00:44:01,160 please on the rest of the consent agenda uh contos yes harp yes yes yes jones yes merit yes 399 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,320 Yes. 400 00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:02,820 Ramos. 401 00:44:03,620 --> 00:44:03,780 Yes. 402 00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:04,880 Carol. 403 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:06,000 Yes. 404 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:07,280 The seat. 405 00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:07,560 Yes. 406 00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:10,340 A Mossberg. 407 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,020 Yes. 408 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,880 West. 409 00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:15,680 Yes. 410 00:44:17,710 --> 00:44:18,170 Anderson. 411 00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:19,590 Yes. 412 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,200 Vote on that is 11 eyes on an absent. 413 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,680 And a consent agenda is approved. 414 00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:30,420 We have no comments from city staff, 415 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,920 words, commissions, authorities, 416 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,860 nor the community forum this evening. 417 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:36,060 Or do we have any special presentations? 418 00:44:36,260 --> 00:44:38,280 We do have a number of public hearings in state law. 419 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:57,980 on our own council rule set guidelines for gathering public comment and formal way on a variety of issues and following staff report on these items, a council will have an opportunity to consider the merits of the motions. 420 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 In COVID and likely beyond, we will continue to hold these public hearings open for a week so that folks may comment beyond the seafing. And council will take final action on these items, generally speaking of their next regular meeting. Our first public hearing, the seafing is on a municipal court ordinance. And our staff presentation begins with Mr. Bickel and is supported by our court administrator. 421 00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:45,280 I have a prior presentation so if you hang on a moment I will share my screen and 422 00:45:59,390 --> 00:46:02,170 if you are seeing the presentation yes we are yes sir. 423 00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:04,330 All right I'll dive right in. 424 00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:12,810 So the public hearing tonight is related to Senate Bill 127, which passed the session's legislature. 425 00:46:12,810 --> 00:46:19,470 SB 127 eliminates the ability of a municipal court judge to appoint part-time assistant judge. 426 00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:26,630 This bill is effective one year after passage and was signed by the governor on April 10th 2021, 427 00:46:26,770 --> 00:46:34,170 which means we have to enable 10th 2022 for implementation. However, while currently, 428 00:46:34,170 --> 00:46:39,370 May of Missoula, municipal court has two part time assistant judges, one is 0.85 FTE 429 00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:47,730 judge and one at 0.75 FTE judge, but these part time assistant judges have to be replaced 430 00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:49,750 by elected judges under this bill. 431 00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:57,370 But while the effective rate of this bill is one year out, the only municipal election within 432 00:46:57,370 --> 00:47:05,770 this time frame is the 2021 election this November. And filing opened for that last month. 433 00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:11,310 State law doesn't provide for special elections for officials that really intended for 434 00:47:11,310 --> 00:47:16,570 ballot initiatives. So in order to comply with the elections deadline, the mayor sent a letter 435 00:47:16,570 --> 00:47:23,010 to the county elections administrator with the intent to create these judges' position to make 436 00:47:23,010 --> 00:47:30,010 sure they were available at the time of filing. And then tonight we're holding a public hearing 437 00:47:30,830 --> 00:47:37,810 on an ordinance for a council to formally create the two new elected positions. 438 00:47:40,210 --> 00:47:41,070 So the ordinance 439 00:47:41,930 --> 00:47:48,730 establishes three judges effective January 3rd, 2022. So Judge Janks is in department one and so 440 00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:54,170 that that he will be on the ballot with judge and retirement and then departments two and three 441 00:47:54,170 --> 00:48:01,270 were are also being created by this ordinance. The other matters that the ordinance yield with is 442 00:48:01,270 --> 00:48:09,050 to set the procedure for a chief judge selection. So state law provides for the judges to select a 443 00:48:09,050 --> 00:48:14,790 chief judge among themselves and if they do not agree the chief judge is the one with the most 444 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:29,550 seniority. However, since we're going into a election where we'll have three judges all with the same seniority, we've put in that if they if the judges don't agree that judges with the most seniority will be the judge with the most votes. 445 00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:37,590 And then also the ordinance establishes the duties that are the same as in the MCA. 446 00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:44,450 So Chief Judge maintains the central court docket, requested jurors for jury trials, 447 00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:46,910 and supervises the court personnel and administration. 448 00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:54,110 These positions are reckoned be full time based on the known capacity issues in the court. 449 00:48:54,110 --> 00:49:03,030 However, MCA 36106 does any at the time for the courts to be in session, so this actually 450 00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:09,550 infers that these elected positions have to be full time anyway, but, you know, regardless 451 00:49:09,550 --> 00:49:14,690 of the capacity issues, it seems that I think we have to read that there would be full time 452 00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:15,790 regular judge positions. 453 00:49:17,650 --> 00:49:25,310 For fiscal impact, the scoremals result in an increase of .4 FTE are probably around $50,000. 454 00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:29,690 So not a significant cost to the overall municipal court budget or a city budget. 455 00:49:30,970 --> 00:49:38,070 But during the FY22 budget process, we'll have to consider some other items related to this. 456 00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:43,430 Staffing needs will have to review the staffing needs of two new electric judges, 457 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:52,570 you know, in previous committee meetings I talked about the needs for potentially more judge clerks in order to do what they added full time judges. 458 00:49:53,190 --> 00:50:02,770 And then we'll need to formalize the establishment of third courtroom and we're working on plans for that and we will look at that in the budget process. 459 00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:07,090 And then finally, just the calendar. 460 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:13,190 This is the calendar that we've been going through in order for the adoption of this. 461 00:50:15,130 --> 00:50:20,970 Ordnance tonight's the public hearing and so final consideration on the on the ordinance would be next Monday. 462 00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:24,270 And with that, I would be happy to take any questions. 463 00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:26,590 Thank you, Mr. Bickel. 464 00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:30,150 And with that, are there questions or comments from. 465 00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:57,110 I think that's just a really important thing for people to remember. There are a lot of things kind of coming that we are required by legislative action. 466 00:50:57,110 --> 00:51:13,630 But my question I think for you is and if you said this I apologize the chief judge position so it would be how often would that be something that was reviewed and considered for a change I just think that as we have three new judges coming in. 467 00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:16,110 You know that that could be. 468 00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:23,950 be important. So will you speak to how that will over the years be reviewed and reconsidered? 469 00:51:25,590 --> 00:51:31,530 If I recall correctly and I'm looking at Mr. Nugent's tile as well that the judges 470 00:51:32,970 --> 00:51:38,170 can do this at least annually I think is under what the code says but I think they can 471 00:51:38,170 --> 00:51:40,490 and take longer terms at their discretion. 472 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,180 May I have a follow-up, Mayor? 473 00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:46,420 Yes, ma'am. 474 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,600 Thank you. 475 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:50,960 And so will you speak a little more 476 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,460 to what being the chief judge means? 477 00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:02,660 Well, the chief judge, among the things that they do, 478 00:52:02,740 --> 00:52:06,060 they set the dockets, call for the juries, 479 00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:07,980 but the big part is really, 480 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:24,520 Well, I think is the administration of the court personnel, so the chief judge will be essentially the head of all of the personnel and administrative matter matters, you know, dealing with the budget personnel issues, those type of things. 481 00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:31,520 Often that is, you know, today, you know, most of that is delegated to the court administrator. 482 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:42,720 but having the chief judge is important so that, you know, the court administrator has that, you know, one chief that person is answerable to. 483 00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:44,400 Thank you. 484 00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:59,960 And I will tell you that this ordinance is crafted based on some experience in cases where there is no chief judge we have seen in other courts. 485 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:08,440 in the zoo of significant conflict between two sitting judges. 486 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,360 It creates tremendous stress for staff. 487 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,700 It's inefficient, ineffective, and very painful. 488 00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:29,940 And this is already complex enough by virtue of the fact that we have a branch of government that is supported by a general fund budget that is controlled by another. 489 00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:34,860 or branch of government, yet we have some limited ability 490 00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:38,200 to influence how that branch of government operates. 491 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:43,060 So, this is about as clean as it gets, I think, 492 00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:46,780 in terms of being able to point that chief judge 493 00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:50,400 and having that single point of contact 494 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,100 and executive authority in the court, Ms. Mayor. 495 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,200 Thanks, thanks, Dale, for, I know 496 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,540 that you had to act really quickly to pull this together. 497 00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:01,760 So I appreciate your work on that. 498 00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:04,380 And I want to say I appreciate all my colleagues listening 499 00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:05,940 to me over the last couple of weeks. 500 00:54:06,980 --> 00:54:10,720 Ask a lot of questions and opine on this topic. 501 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,320 So one more thing, Dale, I guess, if what 502 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,680 seemed to be maybe a little bit of a conflicting information, 503 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,460 one of the things that we heard from the core administrator 504 00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:30,140 was that the municipal judges need time off the bench to prepare which totally 505 00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:34,180 totally makes sense I totally get it. And I'm just trying to put that together 506 00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:37,640 with the information that you just gave us about how state losses that they 507 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:44,680 have to be on the bench from 9 to noon and then 1 to 4 every day is I mean is 508 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:50,860 that a limited amount of time enough for the needs that the core 509 00:54:50,860 --> 00:54:52,360 administrator was talking about. 510 00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:56,200 You know, I really can't speak to that. 511 00:54:56,420 --> 00:55:00,120 I think Tina is a panelist. 512 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,720 She may be able to answer that question, 513 00:55:02,820 --> 00:55:05,360 but that, you know, so that, 514 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,460 you know, so I really don't know how that 515 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:10,960 requirement works relative to, you know, 516 00:55:10,980 --> 00:55:12,600 time to prepare and those type of things. 517 00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:15,880 Maybe I could just add a little bit more framing 518 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,680 around my question if I could mayor. 519 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:30,800 Just to say, is it our anticipation that all three of the judges are going to be on the bench for those hours every day of the week, every operating business day? 520 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:40,220 So I think I think that Ms. Reineke can certainly clarify for you. I think court needs to be open. I don't think that judges are on the bench. 521 00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:46,520 All of that time, but Ms. Reineke, you can you can fill in blanks because you know what you're talking about. 522 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:56,120 Sure, in an ideal world, we would have all three judges on every bench, every day, staffing 523 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:02,300 that will be a bit of a challenge because it also involves city attorney that if a 524 00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:05,300 judge is in a courtroom, we may need the city attorneys in there. 525 00:56:05,740 --> 00:56:15,800 Right now, the way we operate, we interpret the law is that if an officer, if an officer 526 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:30,220 calls and wants to bring someone someone in on a warrant. Any time between about eight and four thirty we will see them. If we don't have a judge on the Bennett on the bench right at that minute, we will see them. 527 00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:40,120 So what we do anticipate is three judges with three benches that those court rooms will be booked right now. 528 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:46,720 Now the, right now the way the courts are calendar, we do not have enough time on the calendar 529 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:53,440 for people who just want to come in and see the judge on the ticket they just got. 530 00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:01,260 Right now those public, those initial appearance walk-in times are very limited. 531 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:09,740 A person can only come in Monday morning, Wednesday afternoon, or all day Friday and for a lot 532 00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:16,980 of people that is just not enough time. So we we have needed full-time judges for a long time. 533 00:57:16,980 --> 00:57:22,920 So this is a it's a bit of a painful move figuring out where to put all this. But in the end, 534 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:31,340 it will definitely we are we are at capacity now. And we have a big case load to move forward. 535 00:57:31,340 --> 00:57:33,640 heavily impacted by COVID. 536 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,920 During COVID, if people fail to appear, 537 00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:41,160 we did not suspend their driver's licenses 538 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,260 for failing to appear, and we did not put out a rest warrants. 539 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,020 As we return to normal or a version of hybridized normal, 540 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,360 we will start taking some activities 541 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,760 almost fail to appear to get people into court to resolve their case. 542 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:19,620 I just wanted to clarify a little bit. I've been on council for six years. I know there's a couple of other counselors who've been on for this is their eighth year. 543 00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:27,160 And during my time on council, I've seen the court gradually expand and I think we've tried to be super careful with. 544 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,040 from taxes of course and to that's why we've had these part time judges as we 545 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,040 were expanding very carefully trying to accommodate the extra needed capacity 546 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,980 but we're with the legislative changes we're past that we can't have part time 547 00:58:42,980 --> 00:58:48,820 judges so we're putting a position where we we've had 2.6 judges and we're 548 00:58:48,820 --> 00:58:54,840 going to have 3.0 judges and so that's we don't get to try and tailor that 549 00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:02,160 But that budget, we just have to go with three at this point based on the legislative action. Is that right? 550 00:59:04,180 --> 00:59:22,160 Yeah, I mean, I think the argument made that council could say that we're only going to add one more judge, but I would really caution that because I think we would think the volume in municipal court is such that I don't think two judges could accomplish it. 551 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:28,660 And then we'd start getting into issues of not staying 552 00:59:28,660 --> 00:59:30,740 compliant with a lot related to speed trial and those 553 00:59:30,740 --> 00:59:31,240 type of things. 554 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,040 So I think we're at the volume. 555 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,320 In fact, our medium term plans 556 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,780 that actually are expecting a fourth musical court 557 00:59:38,780 --> 00:59:41,520 treasure as we start planning for a future space. 558 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,440 We're actually trying to think of that already. 559 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:50,160 One of the things that while we're looking at is going 560 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,840 It'll be general fund funded and primarily property tax funded. 561 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,900 They're, you know, fines and might increase a little bit related to three judges. A lot of work on that through the budget. 562 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,540 But really, it will be mostly just general fun property taxes that we'll pay for this. Thank you. Mr. Newton. 563 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:28,160 Just a very minor clarification. The state law requires that the judges select the chief judge at the beginning of each calendar year. So it's one year. And then they have to go through the process again. Thank you, councilor. Appreciate that. 564 01:00:29,620 --> 01:00:33,120 All right, seeing no additional questions or comments from 565 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,980 council members, this public hearing will remain open until next week. 566 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,840 And if thank you, Mr. Bickle, I'm going to try to keep you will move on to 567 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,440 our second public hearing of the evening and that is on ordinance amendments for 568 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,740 the Affordable Housing Citizen Oversight Committee. 569 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,600 And Ms. Harris shares you have our staff report this evening. 570 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,320 I'm 571 01:00:58,460 --> 01:01:00,380 just going to share my screen. 572 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,120 Can 573 01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:15,420 you send that? 574 01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:17,820 Great. 575 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,220 Thanks. 576 01:01:19,780 --> 01:01:20,800 Thank you. 577 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:28,320 I appreciate being here to walk through a few key opportunities to strengthen section 3.24.80. 578 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,300 0.080 of ordinance 3.6. 579 01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:45,640 like getting all my decimals mixed up, excuse me, ordinate 3663, the Affordable Housing 580 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,120 Trust Fund, which pertains to the Affordable Housing Citizen Oversight Committee. 581 01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:55,300 First, I'd like to thank Marty Raybine, the city clerk for her guidance and 582 01:01:55,300 --> 01:02:00,080 encouragement on the best way to move forward on the challenges and opportunities we've 583 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,720 I identify that I'm sharing with you tonight. 584 01:02:04,060 --> 01:02:05,660 So just a brief background. 585 01:02:06,340 --> 01:02:10,880 The Affordable Housing Trust Fund was adopted by ordinance in July of 2020. 586 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:19,420 And the ordinance outlines among other key elements of the Trust Fund's foundation, the structure of the oversight committee. 587 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,340 And a primary focus since the adoption. 588 01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:31,820 has been seeing the oversight committees were a process that involved the public and upheld the values reflected in the ordinance and resolution. 589 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:39,920 That the committee will include people who reflect Missoula and a diversity of race experience economic condition and housing backgrounds. 590 01:02:40,660 --> 01:02:44,380 We held open recruitment for five weeks in January and February. 591 01:02:44,380 --> 01:02:50,500 very marketed broadly and received 44 applications, demonstrating in part how invested 592 01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:55,920 Missouliens are in being a part of solutions for growing and changing housing needs. 593 01:02:56,780 --> 01:03:00,620 A subcommittee of the committee of the whole was established to conduct 594 01:03:00,620 --> 01:03:07,300 interviews, and I want to express my appreciation and gratitude to council member Jones, council 595 01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:11,880 member Basera, council member Mera and county commissioner Slotnik for their investment 596 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:17,120 of time over six weeks to conduct 33 interviews throughout 597 01:03:19,770 --> 01:03:22,070 this process we've identified a few key 598 01:03:22,070 --> 01:03:28,450 opportunities to strengthen the ordinance as it pertains to the oversight committee. The three key 599 01:03:28,450 --> 01:03:34,230 opportunities are that the original ordinance language precludes alternate members from voting 600 01:03:34,230 --> 01:03:41,490 when a regular member is absent or a position is vacant. That term start dates were set to begin in 601 01:03:41,490 --> 01:03:45,630 January and end in December, which significantly limits 602 01:03:45,630 --> 01:03:48,430 appointed members' terms with spring appointments, 603 01:03:49,230 --> 01:03:52,630 and that the number of community member positions 604 01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:56,730 was set to one and does not reflect the community interest 605 01:03:56,730 --> 01:03:59,730 and application responses we received during recruitment. 606 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:07,840 We're proposing four changes to section 3.24.080 607 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,140 and the changes are as follows. 608 01:04:11,340 --> 01:04:17,080 The first change is to structure alternate positions as alternate one and alternate two, 609 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,580 and allow alternates to vote when a regular member is absent or a position is vacant. 610 01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:29,820 This change is found in subsection A. The second change is to set terms to begin following 611 01:04:29,820 --> 01:04:35,600 appointment and expire in alignment with the term limit, and this change is found in subsection 612 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:41,920 and see. The third change is to add one additional community member position, which will 613 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:49,780 increase committee membership to 12 with 10 regular members and two alternatives, and 614 01:04:49,780 --> 01:04:56,060 this changes found in subsection A and B. And finally, we're proposing to change the 615 01:04:56,060 --> 01:05:01,700 name of the oversight committee to the affordable housing resident oversight committee to reflect 616 01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:06,920 our inclusive values and be representative of the full community and the name 617 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,360 changes found throughout the amendment document 618 01:05:12,110 --> 01:05:14,130 and if the amendments are 619 01:05:14,130 --> 01:05:18,790 adopted the committee membership requirements will change as outlined the 620 01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:24,890 committee member roles will increase to 12 total with four community member roles 621 01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:30,210 two of whose households are currently receiving or have in the past two years 622 01:05:30,210 --> 01:05:33,830 received some form assistance in securing or maintaining their housing. 623 01:05:36,210 --> 01:05:39,030 And if adopted future appointments will be made as follows. 624 01:05:39,610 --> 01:05:44,490 City Council will appoint five members, four regular members, and the second alternate. 625 01:05:45,230 --> 01:05:49,350 Mayor will appoint three members, two regular members, and the first alternate. 626 01:05:50,050 --> 01:05:53,470 And the Board of County Commissioners will continue to appoint one member. 627 01:05:55,170 --> 01:06:01,470 And the ordinance timeline is outlined here with the public hearing today. 628 01:06:02,130 --> 01:06:05,810 And the final consideration on next week. 629 01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:12,700 And the proposed motion is on the slide. I'm happy to answer any questions. 630 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,580 Thank you, Mr. Shares. 631 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:30,080 There are no hands up in the attendance. A number of council members are worried that I neglected to ask for public comment on the previous item again, there were no hands up. 632 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:31,980 So I want to straight to council questions. 633 01:06:32,890 --> 01:06:34,320 Council members have questions. 634 01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:41,850 All right, seeing none. 635 01:06:43,810 --> 01:06:49,630 We will take this item up for final consideration next Monday evening 636 01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:51,370 and the public hearing will remain open. 637 01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:57,110 Our third public hearing this evening is on request annex and rezone. 638 01:06:58,110 --> 01:07:03,390 Inventory Subdivision Phase 3-A in our staff work this evening is from Mr. DeGradpre. 639 01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:10,140 Can you give me Mr. Mayor and Councilors, I'm Dave DeGradpre with Zool Development Services. 640 01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,860 Can you see my share screen? 641 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,500 We can, we just don't see anything on it, Mr. DeGradpre. 642 01:07:31,540 --> 01:07:32,600 I'm working on it. 643 01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:33,280 One moment please. 644 01:07:35,810 --> 01:07:37,450 Looks like progress is being made. 645 01:07:38,110 --> 01:07:38,670 There we are. 646 01:07:42,330 --> 01:07:50,510 So, this is the public hearing for annexation and zoning of phase 3a of the Invermier sub-division. 647 01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:57,050 Development services received a petition from Dr. A. Klem, the property owner, to annex 648 01:07:57,050 --> 01:07:57,650 the property. 649 01:07:58,210 --> 01:08:03,310 Tonight is the public hearing and on the annexation and zoning and the Languies and Plenty Committee 650 01:08:03,310 --> 01:08:08,150 Well, take this up at its meeting on Wednesday at 1 o'clock. 651 01:08:09,740 --> 01:08:14,870 In terms of annexation law, the parameters that you have, Montana code annotated provide 652 01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:20,670 several opportunities or ways for people to annex into the city limits and for the city's 653 01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:21,630 boundaries to expand. 654 01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:27,930 City Council has authority over all additions to the city boundaries and also may impose conditions 655 01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:28,630 of approval. 656 01:08:29,490 --> 01:08:41,970 The city must provide services to annex property in a way that's commissarate with other property within the city limits, and also as I mentioned, the public hearing on zoning and annexation is required. 657 01:08:41,970 --> 01:08:59,450 So the proper stuff is in a developed residential neighborhood, it's between Miller Creek Road on the east side and the Vista Boulevard on the west side, it's in the Miller Creek neighborhood in Ward 5. 658 01:09:00,490 --> 01:09:09,970 This is the fourth phase in a phase subdivision consisting of 11 residential losses in the last phase. 659 01:09:09,970 --> 01:09:18,690 The preliminary approval occurred in 1999 and all previous phases have already been annexed into the city lines. 660 01:09:23,310 --> 01:09:27,610 So in red, you can see the city limits, the property itself is wholly surrounded. 661 01:09:33,330 --> 01:09:36,050 And here is a copy of the subdivision flat. 662 01:09:36,270 --> 01:09:40,130 The final plat was recorded on May 5th. 663 01:09:40,130 --> 01:09:46,930 This is actually a subdivision that was approved initially, back in 1999, it was getting preliminary approval by the county commissioners, 664 01:09:46,930 --> 01:09:52,010 was the county commissioners, but each phase has been annexed four time upon five. 665 01:09:55,540 --> 01:09:57,800 In the subdivision, there are 19 residential lots. 666 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,540 They range in size for about 13,000 square feet to about 30,000 square feet. 667 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:07,860 Through the center is an extension of Drake Lane, that connects to the existing Drake Lane. 668 01:10:07,860 --> 01:10:16,100 and also there's a street section called Invermier Parkway, and then there's a park located right 669 01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:22,520 about here about three and a half acres that has come in in phases. The park is currently, 670 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,600 there's an agreement between the city, the county, and the homeowners association regarding the park. 671 01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:34,340 There's also an improvements agreement whereby the sub-divider is under contract to install improvements 672 01:10:34,340 --> 01:10:41,240 to the park that will ultimately be maintained by the Homeowners Association, but the city and the county also have authority over 673 01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:48,500 over park improvements and can can require maintenance and things like that. But there's a contract that's already in place and 674 01:10:49,460 --> 01:10:56,240 all park improvements under the improvements agreement that exists have to be made by late January of next year. 675 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,780 Similarly, there's an improvements, not all of the improvements for city streets, city water, 676 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:08,860 sidewalks and city sewer have been made to date, and there's an improvements agreement 677 01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:12,640 to make sure that those things happen. There's financial security that has been set aside, 678 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,180 and this is on file with city officials and also the county clerk in the court. 679 01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:20,690 And 680 01:11:20,690 --> 01:11:23,870 the purpose of that, of course, is to guarantee that those improvements will actually be made. 681 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:31,960 This is a SNP from the city's annexation map in our annexation policy. You can see the subject 682 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:40,040 property right here, toward the center, that's an annexation area, the lighter yellow color 683 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:47,720 is existing city limits already. So, annexation area A is significant because it's an area 684 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:53,940 that the city has decided largely meets the city's annexation policies. When I talk about annexation 685 01:11:53,940 --> 01:12:00,700 policies, we have an adopted annexation policy at the city of Missouri that prioritizes annexation 686 01:12:00,700 --> 01:12:07,300 of properties that are within the utility services area, which this is, that contribute to 687 01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:11,220 a logical growth pattern by creating orderly and continuous municipal boundaries. 688 01:12:12,060 --> 01:12:18,060 And also, we prioritize properties for annexation that fill in gaps left by previous annexations. 689 01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:20,520 So this property meets all of those criteria. 690 01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:28,240 First, let's meet up from the city's growth policy map. 691 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:35,580 The couple of important points here, first, the growth policy designation of future land use map 692 01:12:35,580 --> 01:12:40,880 recommends residential low density development of one to two acres per dwelling unit. 693 01:12:43,790 --> 01:12:47,930 And it also relates or also suggests that there are two appropriate zoning districts, 694 01:12:48,190 --> 01:12:54,770 R20 and R40. In this case, R20 is proposed for the subject property upon annexation. 695 01:12:55,710 --> 01:13:03,210 And the density is approximately two dwellings per acre, which aligns with the growth policy recommendation of residential low density. 696 01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:18,350 There is a snippet of the county zoning map, you can see that there are subject properties currently zone C, R, R, 2, the county zoning and the city zoning are quite closely aligned here. 697 01:13:19,150 --> 01:13:27,130 The county zoning also recommends development of up to two dwellings per acre on city water or on public facilities. 698 01:13:27,130 --> 01:13:32,990 So in this case, it would be city, water and sewer and that's just like the county growth policy and also like the 699 01:13:33,650 --> 01:13:36,910 Sorry, it's just like the city's growth policy and also the city zoning 700 01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:41,670 The same uses are allowed and in a comparable density 701 01:13:43,310 --> 01:13:46,090 And then here's a snip from the city zoning map 702 01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:51,910 You can see all the way around the property is r20 again. That's what's proposed here tonight 703 01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:56,610 For the subject property. There are some open space type park areas 704 01:13:57,130 --> 01:13:58,710 and lighter shade here in green, 705 01:13:59,330 --> 01:14:00,790 but surrounding the properties are 20, 706 01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:02,870 again, that's consistent with what's proposed here. 707 01:14:05,090 --> 01:14:08,770 So what I want to say in a law and our zoning ordinance, 708 01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:12,750 there are three criteria for annexation 709 01:14:12,750 --> 01:14:13,950 that you all have to consider. 710 01:14:14,050 --> 01:14:15,910 The City Council has to consider for annexation, 711 01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:18,530 and at least one of these criteria has to be met. 712 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:22,270 In this case, I think there are two that are clearly met. 713 01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:28,770 First is that a, that land uses that are comparable 714 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:36,150 Critical to the land use is authorized on the county zoning classification would be applied upon the city annexation. 715 01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:42,410 I talked about the comparable density allowed under the zoning, both the city and the county have their closely aligned. 716 01:14:42,910 --> 01:14:51,090 So I think after criterion A has been met, also C. I showed a slide of the growth policy that recommends residential load density, 717 01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:58,070 one to two dwelling units per acre and so that is consistent with the zoning that would be applied here as well. 718 01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:59,970 So, I think they're... 719 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,420 There are a couple of different avenues for the project to be annexed under the annexation criteria that we have. And then finally, today is simply, it's a public hearing and informational item. It is not, the vote will not be taken tonight. Final consideration will be a week from tonight with, again, additional discussion on Wednesday. But staff's recommendation is to adopt a resolution to annex and incorporate within the city boundaries, the subject property. 720 01:15:29,420 --> 01:15:34,740 and zone the property, R20 residential based on the findings of fact in the staff report. 721 01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:42,020 And tonight, in addition to myself, David's salvage from City Parks and Rec is here. 722 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:47,720 I think there are maybe some questions that come up about the parks and things like that. 723 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,540 I know he is willing and able to answer those questions. 724 01:15:52,820 --> 01:15:56,180 So with that, that concludes my presentation, Mr. Mayor. 725 01:15:56,180 --> 01:15:58,080 Thank you, Mr. Grandpray. 726 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,360 And do we have anyone representing applicant this evening? 727 01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:05,320 Who would like to speak? 728 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,120 Mr. Johnson. 729 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:17,140 Yeah, I am here representing the applicants, but I don't really have anything to add. 730 01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:18,540 Thank you. 731 01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:25,840 I see no hands up among attendees to comment on this proposed annexation. 732 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:27,640 Questions from council members. 733 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:28,160 Ms. Anderson. 734 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,720 Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor. 735 01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:38,260 I realize that we will be hearing this in public, sorry, land use and planning on Wednesday 736 01:16:38,260 --> 01:16:43,780 and so I will save the majority of my questions for them for then, but I do want staff to 737 01:16:43,780 --> 01:16:50,380 come prepared to discuss myself representing this ward have had numerous conversations 738 01:16:50,380 --> 01:16:57,020 with the current residents of the Inferior Subdivision who are frustrated to say the least at 739 01:16:57,020 --> 01:17:03,360 the lack of development happening to the park that was supposed to be there quite some 740 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:10,720 time ago. And I realize that there's an improvement agreement in place that would cover 741 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:16,240 the cost of the developer decides not to but to get that development agreement they had 742 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:22,820 to submit a chart showing their timeline for development of the park and we are sitting 743 01:17:22,820 --> 01:17:28,260 here on may 17th and we are still we are very far behind on that and so I want to 744 01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:32,440 know what options there are we cannot condition to reason but we can condition 745 01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:39,460 annexation to move that park along I don't want to wait until January of 746 01:17:39,460 --> 01:17:44,800 2022 to cash in the improvements agreement. I want to see what options there are 747 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,840 so Mister Jim pre if you could come. I'd like to hear a little bit more about 748 01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:54,860 that in land use and planning on Wednesday. I feel as though the developer is not 749 01:17:54,860 --> 01:18:00,580 living up to their end of the bargain on the initial plan for this so I just 750 01:18:00,580 --> 01:18:02,860 want to put that out there that we'll be discussing this more on Wednesday. 751 01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,240 Thank you. 752 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,420 Thank you, Ms. Anderson. Further questions or comments from 753 01:18:07,420 --> 01:18:08,040 council members? 754 01:18:08,780 --> 01:18:09,280 Ms. Hart. 755 01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:14,440 Thank you, Ms. Raer. The question for Dave or Mr. Johnson 756 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:17,820 here tonight. I think we've heard a lot of 757 01:18:17,820 --> 01:18:24,040 comments tonight from our community about concerns about finding a place to live. 758 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:30,100 And I know this is just an annexation with a small upzone if you will to one or two dwelling 759 01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:37,160 per acre. Is it possible that we could actually request the developer to upzone to a higher density 760 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:42,740 for future use or long-term use? 761 01:18:46,060 --> 01:18:49,420 Well, you know, that wouldn't actually comply with the growth policy. 762 01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:56,140 The growth policy has a recommendation of one to two dwelling units per acre, which 763 01:18:56,140 --> 01:18:58,820 is in a line with the R20 zoning that's proposed. 764 01:18:59,660 --> 01:19:01,780 You know, I suppose at some point that could change. 765 01:19:02,420 --> 01:19:05,160 These lots are sizable, you know, the smallest one. 766 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:10,160 I think it's 13,000 square feet, I'm not mistaken. 767 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,620 You know, at some point in the future, some of the, and up to 30,000 square feet, so at some 768 01:19:15,620 --> 01:19:20,760 point in the future, those thoughts could be maybe further divided on a, it'll probably 769 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,000 be on an individual way, individual basis if they wanted to add additional homes. 770 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:29,300 BDUs are also a possibility, I think, so there are maybe some options, but I wouldn't 771 01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:34,340 suggest that we take a different action than what's proposed at this time. 772 01:19:35,580 --> 01:19:36,480 Appreciate that. 773 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:37,980 Mr. Nige. 774 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:51,300 Just as further clarification, for Heather, this method of annexation and zoning, 775 01:19:51,300 --> 01:20:01,420 I mean, at the time of annexation is the expedited method of annexation that allows an annexation to occur without going to the planning board. 776 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:18,420 It is possible that if you had an annexation that didn't comply with the three conditions that Dave identified that you send the annexation proposal to the planning board for recommendations as to what. 777 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:30,440 The zoning should be however in this instance I think Dave would have some heartburn also about the growth policy and how you're going to mesh that with the growth policy. 778 01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:41,140 But just so you know there are alternatives it's just this uses the expedited alternative for annexing and zoning at the time of annexation. 779 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:58,460 Well, I'm planning board to have some heartburn of running a file of growth policy as should council that's kind of that's kind of the foundational document here but that is subject to change so something to keep in mind as we move forward. 780 01:20:59,220 --> 01:21:11,320 Seeing no additional virtual hands in the air council will take this up again next week and the public hearing will remain open. Thank you, Mr. Grandpray. 781 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:21,240 Our final public hearing this evening is on another annexation and zoning request. This is at Fox Den court and Alex item has our staff report this evening. 782 01:21:25,220 --> 01:21:26,700 Thank you very much. 783 01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:29,820 Pulling up the presentation. Can we see this okay? 784 01:21:29,820 --> 01:21:34,360 We can take it then you can hear me great. Can 785 01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:38,410 we still see that change from my side? 786 01:21:40,690 --> 01:21:45,890 Perfect. Thank you very much. Good evening. My name is Alex item. I'm the associate 787 01:21:45,890 --> 01:21:50,330 planner with the permits and land use division of development services and I'm here this evening 788 01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:54,930 to present an annexation petition that was submitted by Lynn Edens with Montana Northwest 789 01:21:54,930 --> 01:22:00,650 Company on behalf of the property owner Joshua Green requesting annexation into the city of 790 01:22:00,650 --> 01:22:07,350 Mozilla and zoning upon annexation of fairway view addition plan unit development for point two acres of land. 791 01:22:07,610 --> 01:22:17,950 This annexation is the result of a boundary line relocation request through subdivision exemption between a property within the city of Mozilla at 4190. 792 01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:24,570 which is also a lot three and a property within Missoula County at 3946 793 01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:34,370 box 10 court, which is for excuse me law a one the boundary line relocation and annexation are to resolve a current encroachment issue between the two properties. 794 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:44,820 So the regulatory authority and parameters that for today is through the Montana code annotated title seven, which provides several ways to add land to municipalities. 795 01:22:44,820 --> 01:22:55,900 municipalities. City Council has authority over all additions and man pose conditions. The city must provide services to the annex property and a public hearing on zoning and annexation is required. 796 01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:12,760 So outlined in the blue star is the subject property, which is you can see is on the south eastern side of lower Millicoot road and the west side of Millicoot road and the red areas on this map are all indicating the current boundary of the city limits. 797 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:21,500 So kind of a more close-up of the project area, outlined in blue is the parcel which is 798 01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:24,620 law A1 and that's the current county property. 799 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,620 Law A1 contains one detached house and two detached accessory structures. 800 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:34,280 The red outlined parcel is law 3, which is within the city limits and contains one detached 801 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:34,760 house. 802 01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:39,440 In the area identified in green is the subject property which we're calling portion A and 803 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:40,500 that's to be annexed. 804 01:23:40,500 --> 01:23:50,540 And that is currently part of the Missoula County parcel as a result of the boundary line relocation and annexation portion A will be incorporated into the city of Missoula. 805 01:23:53,570 --> 01:24:04,030 Here is an exhibit just kind of more clearly showing what that means. So, again, this is the county parcel right now and this down here is lot three, which is the city parcel. 806 01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:09,990 And this is the little dotted area and this is portion A to the annex into the city Missoula boundary. 807 01:24:10,710 --> 01:24:15,010 You'll know if there's a little hashed area here that's an existing no build zone on 808 01:24:15,010 --> 01:24:20,770 lot three, lot three, and there's also no access strip, which they're proposing to extend 809 01:24:21,470 --> 01:24:24,590 onto portion A if annex into the city of Missoula. 810 01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:32,870 So here's a snippet of the annexation policy map, the subject property it's outlined in 811 01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:37,310 the star, and it's located in the green areas which is annexation area A, which are areas 812 01:24:37,310 --> 01:24:42,610 that largely meet annexation guidelines, and then surrounding it to the side is the yellow 813 01:24:42,610 --> 01:24:49,780 areas and that's just identifying where the current city limit is so the annexation policy is that 814 01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:59,210 to provide for orderly development including the efficient delivery of municipal services and to 815 01:24:59,210 --> 01:25:04,470 develop and developing areas that protect public health and safety. This would contribute to the 816 01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:09,990 logical growth pattern. I mean the city limits are all adjacent currently. The annexation should 817 01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:14,310 also comply with the growth policy which I'll get into in just a moment in the annexation should 818 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:25,830 would provide the same level of service and infrastructure as other parts of the municipality and it should also prioritize annexation of areas that meet current city standards, including not limited to water, sewer and transportation infrastructure. 819 01:25:27,470 --> 01:25:38,090 So for the arm as you know city growth policy as you can see the subject property is located in the yellow area, which identifies the residential low density land use designation. 820 01:25:38,090 --> 01:25:42,630 areas designated as residential low density are designed to support one to two 821 01:25:42,630 --> 01:25:47,910 dwelling units per acre with varying parcel size. When portion A is added to the 822 01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:55,130 city parcel at 4193. The parcel will increase to just under one acre which 823 01:25:55,130 --> 01:25:58,450 actually will make the parcel more compliant with and conforming to the growth 824 01:25:58,450 --> 01:26:05,690 policy. Here's the current zoning map. The current county zoning for a lot A1 is 825 01:26:05,690 --> 01:26:09,630 CRR 2, which is a residential county zoning district. 826 01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:13,130 CRR 2 promotes a single family residential environment 827 01:26:13,130 --> 01:26:16,450 in areas by, excuse me, 828 01:26:16,570 --> 01:26:17,170 in certain areas, 829 01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:20,390 served by adequate public water and sewer systems 830 01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:22,590 and promotes a residential city consistent 831 01:26:22,590 --> 01:26:24,810 with the availability of public facilities 832 01:26:25,330 --> 01:26:27,370 and with the physical limitations of the land, 833 01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:29,530 specifically planning a development 834 01:26:29,530 --> 01:26:31,230 and playing variations on courage 835 01:26:31,230 --> 01:26:33,310 to further the intent of this district. 836 01:26:33,310 --> 01:26:39,270 And the current city zoning for a lot three is the fairway view planned unit development. 837 01:26:39,730 --> 01:26:44,310 This PD has various sub districts, a lot three specifically is located within the single 838 01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:48,830 family residential, which is a sub district that only allows single family dwellings and 839 01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:49,730 accessory uses. 840 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:57,140 So the proposed zoning as a result of the boundary line relocation, annexation and zoning 841 01:26:57,140 --> 01:27:04,520 upon annexation, portion A, will be within the fairway view addition planned unit development. 842 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:05,660 So 843 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:16,680 the zoning criteria with annexation zoning classification at the time of annexation must comply with one of the following and this annexation complies with a and C. 844 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:25,540 So a is to authorize land uses comparable to the land uses authorized under county zoning classification that applied to the property immediately before it was annexed into the city. 845 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:35,400 And this applies to this annexation request because plan new development and plan variations are encouraged to further the intent of the CRR2 county residential zoning district. 846 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:41,600 and see be consistent with the land use and zoning recommendations for the subject areas 847 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,760 set forth in the growth policy. And so this criteria applies to the SANExation because 848 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:52,780 the proposed fairway view addition planning development is in a line with the growth policy 849 01:27:52,780 --> 01:28:00,060 land use designation. There's one condition of approval for the SANExation and that is the 850 01:28:00,060 --> 01:28:05,000 applicant shall file the amended plot subject to the conditions of approval for the subdivision 851 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:10,840 exception within 180 days of annexation approval otherwise the resolution to annex and the zoning 852 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,200 upon annexation of the property shall become no one void and the property will revert to the 853 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:21,300 original status in the county of Missoula. This condition came about primarily to tie the annexation 854 01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:26,780 with the boundary line relocation so that when the annexation is approved then the boundary line 855 01:28:26,780 --> 01:28:32,660 relocation is approved they have 180 days to file that amended plot and if they do not then this 856 01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:38,880 And there's no action item this evening. This is here for reference. 857 01:28:39,940 --> 01:28:42,300 And that concludes the presentation. Thank you. 858 01:28:43,060 --> 01:28:50,880 Thank you, Ms. item. And seeing no hands up in the attendees box. 859 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,840 Questions or comments from council members. 860 01:28:57,610 --> 01:29:03,550 Right. Seeing none, this public hearing will remain open as well. We have no additional public hearings this evening. 861 01:29:03,550 --> 01:29:05,570 but we do have a number of items for final consideration. 862 01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:11,430 These items were considered over the course of the week. 863 01:29:12,270 --> 01:29:16,550 And the public hearing on each is now close. 864 01:29:17,290 --> 01:29:23,870 Our first item for final consideration is a rezoning on river road. 865 01:29:24,330 --> 01:29:28,410 And Mr. Hess, if I may trouble you for a motion. 866 01:29:28,410 --> 01:29:29,270 there 867 01:29:32,860 --> 01:29:33,480 with me there. 868 01:29:38,180 --> 01:29:56,120 So I moved that on second and final reading we adopted ordinance to reason the subject property located at 2103, 2103 and a half, 2115 and 2105 and a half river road, legally described as that as that part of what 24 cobbin and didn't 869 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,900 from subdivision and a parcel of land lying in 2020. 870 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980 Section 4 of Coppinin, Dinsmars, Orchard Holmes, edition, located in Section 20, Township 13, North, and Range 19, West, Principal Meridian, Montana, from RT10, residential 2-unit townhouse, to RT5.4, residential 5.4 2-unit townhouse, based on the findings of fact in the staff report. And that motion is in order, especially on the motion, Ms. Mayor. I just want to say I'll be in support of the 871 01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:39,980 this motion, the change that this is going to affect on the ground is phenomenal. A large 872 01:30:39,980 --> 01:30:48,060 number of the lots that are around this existing parcel are, while it is zoned RT10, those 873 01:30:48,060 --> 01:30:54,920 lots are already non-conforming and are much smaller than the RT10 zoning would allow. 874 01:30:54,920 --> 01:31:06,180 So I it's not going to change very much in the way that this neighborhood has already been developing and the the height limitations are the same the setbacks are the same. 875 01:31:06,740 --> 01:31:13,780 So I think that this is a good application for this property and I'm in support. 876 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,980 If it was Marit for the discussion, 877 01:31:19,380 --> 01:31:22,620 seeing none, we've had a public hearing while I roll call vote. 878 01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:32,340 Hey, on the ordinance, I think we're at heart for the roll call. 879 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:34,100 Yes. 880 01:31:35,460 --> 01:31:35,780 Yes. 881 01:31:37,940 --> 01:31:38,640 Jones. 882 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:39,620 Yes. 883 01:31:41,020 --> 01:31:41,720 Marit. 884 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:42,540 Yes. 885 01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:44,440 Ramos. 886 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:46,540 Yes. 887 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:47,760 Cheryl. 888 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:48,900 Yes. 889 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:51,640 Yes. 890 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:52,440 Yes. 891 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:53,900 Yes. 892 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:54,900 Yes. 893 01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:56,640 West. 894 01:31:57,460 --> 01:31:57,640 Yes. 895 01:31:58,700 --> 01:31:59,620 Anderson. 896 01:32:00,540 --> 01:32:00,840 Yes. 897 01:32:01,580 --> 01:32:02,540 Contents. 898 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:03,860 Yes. 899 01:32:04,620 --> 01:32:05,920 What do you like to change about? 900 01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,200 That's 11 eyes and one absent. 901 01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:11,340 And the motion is approved. 902 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,120 Our second item for final consideration. 903 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:25,600 I move that we approve the group living conditional use request for a hogan senior living located at 904 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:38,060 228 to 34 and 246 south south 6th street west in accordance with the Zoolocity zoning ordinance title 20 sections 20.10.020. 905 01:32:57,060 --> 01:33:07,420 I think that this is an innovative type of housing. It's going to provide a diversity of housing options, particularly for seniors. 906 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:18,400 And this is our second group living conditional use that we've seen in the last year. 907 01:33:19,060 --> 01:33:28,420 And I think that it's a trend that I look forward to watching and assessing how well they work. 908 01:33:28,860 --> 01:33:36,880 I think, like I said, there I think it's an innovative way to deploy housing that is reasonably dense. 909 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:49,940 provides a diversity of housing type and provides an option for seniors who may be looking to downsize and have more affordable options for remaining within the core of our community. 910 01:33:49,940 --> 01:34:07,940 So I'm excited about the project. I think it's really worth noting that the adjacent the adjacent church was instrumental in getting this project off the ground as far as selling this lot with the intention of the development of senior housing. 911 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:13,180 And so I support this. Thank you. 912 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:22,120 I will note for the record that this housing is available to people who are 55 and older. 913 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:29,720 I am one of those people. I am an older adult, Mr. Hess, not a senior. 914 01:34:31,620 --> 01:34:38,800 Mayor, I'll note that this is enabled by the housing of older persons act of 1995. 915 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:48,440 five. I apologize for the nomenclature. Just fine, Mr. Hess. Ms. Merritt on the 916 01:34:48,440 --> 01:34:55,620 move. Thanks. I'm also in support of this. It's an innovative idea and I want to thank 917 01:34:55,620 --> 01:35:00,360 the developers for bringing it. They've been very thoughtful in this development. And 918 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:06,160 I also want to note the large number of letters of support that we've received from the 919 01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:13,220 public which is great. A lot of times when people are trying something new in land use that they 920 01:35:14,090 --> 01:35:19,600 get a lot of negative comments because people are concerned of something that's unproven 921 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:24,420 perhaps. So we've got a lot of great feedback from people and I appreciate that. 922 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:26,780 Ms. West. 923 01:35:29,540 --> 01:35:36,080 Thank you. I am also in support of this project and we'll echo much of what has been said 924 01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:40,400 that already, I think we have in the past gotten 925 01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,820 at least annual updates from the Ms. Elizabeth Senior Center 926 01:35:43,820 --> 01:35:50,560 and we are often, we are aware that our community is aging 927 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:55,420 and that there are limited housing options 928 01:35:55,420 --> 01:35:58,780 for folks who are older persons, we'll say. 929 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:04,100 And I think this is a really innovative way 930 01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:23,960 to bring a new housing type to the market and hopefully build community and support folks and I also just wanted to mention that the developer deconstructed most of the buildings that have been removed from the site thus far and I just wanted to highlight that because it's. 931 01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:30,020 I think it's important and it needs our goals and I want to applaud them for doing that. Thank you. 932 01:36:32,500 --> 01:36:59,460 Thank you, so this is in my neighborhood is just a few blocks from where I live. There has been a lot of public comments. I wanted to first of all just say that in committee on Wednesday, we did have a big discussion regarding what the conditional use covers the bottom line is if this changes to any type of a, for example, a group home that would have a special purpose such as a health assisted facility. 933 01:36:59,460 --> 01:37:11,680 There will be a further conditional use hearing on it, but right now this is for seniors, 55 and older if their application is approved or otherwise just people who want to live there. 934 01:37:12,380 --> 01:37:22,900 I have two, I'm an older person in that category and after having spent the entire weekend on yard works, there are some very appealing things about this project. 935 01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:34,200 But I just want to address a few issues. There's a lot of public comment and I appreciated people thinking about this, taking the time. It is a paradigm shift. This is a change. 936 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:43,280 There are six parking spots plus one disabled parking spot for basically 36 units. 937 01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:50,140 So that is a shift, but I think it is workable with the resources in that area. 938 01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:58,500 I hope that the church and the Presbyterian Church has a large parking lot with, I think, 36 spaces. 939 01:37:59,220 --> 01:38:12,380 And I hope they have conversations with how to efficiently have a symbiotic relationship and make that work well between these two entities, the church and this group living home, which I know the church has been very supportive. 940 01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:18,760 So I don't doubt they can figure out some good ways of making it work so that it works for everyone. 941 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:25,880 I also wanted to note that, frankly, the on-street parking simply surrounding this block is quite 942 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:34,760 extensive. I think there are 10 spots simply on the corner that this building has where it sits. 943 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:42,340 There's also other sections of the block north on the north on Hazel on the east side of Hazel. 944 01:38:42,500 --> 01:38:49,280 There's diagonal parking over on the other side of the block where Mertle is on the east side of the street. 945 01:38:49,480 --> 01:38:52,140 There's diagonal parking, so there's actually a lot of parking. 946 01:38:52,300 --> 01:38:53,120 There's a lot of breathing room. 947 01:38:53,540 --> 01:38:54,920 It will impact the neighborhood. 948 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,460 I don't want to gloss over that. 949 01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:01,000 There will be less on-street parking, but I'm hoping people make it work. 950 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:10,820 And honestly, I for years now have been talking about wanting the parking commission to take a holistic look at the hip strip at the university district. 951 01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:15,700 And as more density goes in, I think the need increases. 952 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:27,480 And I hope that's a conversation the parking commission has at some point to make a better system for having parking for commercial entities on hip strip as well as residential entities. 953 01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:36,460 So that's that's the future that I see there and I hope I hope that happens. I also wanted to comment that a lot of the public comment we received. 954 01:39:36,740 --> 01:39:41,240 Well, some of it went to how the dynamics will work within this group living. 955 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:54,360 And I don't think it's our purview as city council to dictate who will clean the communal kitchen down the down the hall, but I have no doubt that the people that live there will work it out. 956 01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:59,980 And it's it'll be a new situation, but they're going to figure it out and I'll handle it. 957 01:40:00,620 --> 01:40:15,760 The last thing I want to say is that the reason why this is a new idea and I think why our community and local government is so receptive to it is because it's cheaper for people to live there. 958 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:27,520 So instead of having a full apartment with all amenities, you'll have basically a partial apartment and then some of the amenities will be communal amenities down the hall like kitchens things like that. 959 01:40:28,380 --> 01:40:38,980 So it's cheaper and for seniors on fixed income, this can be a real bonus to be able to live in a central part of the city and have and be and pay less rent. 960 01:40:38,980 --> 01:40:46,260 and we certainly heard a lot at the beginning of this meeting about rental prices, so there's a 961 01:40:46,260 --> 01:40:50,820 method to the madness. There's a reason why we're entertaining this type of idea now because we 962 01:40:50,820 --> 01:40:55,600 need to figure out how people can live and have a good quality of life in the zoolah and this is one 963 01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:01,860 of those ways we're going to do it. So I think we'll all be curious to see how it works out and I'm in 964 01:41:01,860 --> 01:41:13,340 favorite. Thank you. Ms. Herk. Thank you. This really is a fairly novel concept for 965 01:41:13,340 --> 01:41:19,520 our community. Group living may have been something from the 60s and the 70s and here we are, 966 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:25,060 all these decades later, realizing that the land used patterns of the past have pushed us to 967 01:41:25,780 --> 01:41:32,980 the areas that we have to explore because there is no other better option. Earlier we talked about 968 01:41:32,980 --> 01:41:40,540 about a news matter that has a lot of sizes that are 13,000 to 30,000 per feet. 969 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:46,240 And here's one that we're going to be talking about, hopefully, housing 36 individuals. 970 01:41:47,060 --> 01:41:48,800 Very different kind of living arrangement. 971 01:41:49,340 --> 01:41:56,800 And I think this is something that from my time sitting at the piano at the Missoula Senior 972 01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:02,440 Center and then having conversations with those very thing seniors, there are a lot of folks 973 01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:06,040 that are pressed to have place that they can afford 974 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:09,260 and a place that they can actually feel 975 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,740 and enjoy one another's company. 976 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:13,960 And I think this presents an opportunity 977 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,980 for people to downsize from their homes 978 01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:19,780 and create an open up some housing stock for families 979 01:42:19,780 --> 01:42:21,920 that right now are really hard pressed 980 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:23,200 to find housing elsewhere. 981 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:27,380 So crudos to the developer and their team 982 01:42:27,380 --> 01:42:29,340 to try something fairly innovative 983 01:42:29,340 --> 01:42:34,620 and within reach of the school and and church for that matter as well as big 984 01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:41,920 different ice cream because it's all right there and I'm fully in support of 985 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:42,500 this project. 986 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:50,460 So you know further discussion I do have a hand up in the attendees 987 01:42:50,460 --> 01:42:52,060 box column. 988 01:42:55,910 --> 01:43:00,970 Thanks I just wanted to say thank you for hearing this project and 989 01:43:00,970 --> 01:43:02,710 And thank you for hearing the discussion 990 01:43:02,710 --> 01:43:03,830 at the beginning of this meeting. 991 01:43:04,210 --> 01:43:05,990 Those these topics are all related 992 01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:07,290 and just wanna say thanks. 993 01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:09,870 This is Colin with MMW Architects. 994 01:43:09,950 --> 01:43:10,110 Thanks. 995 01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:11,550 Thank you, Colin. 996 01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:15,650 And with that, we have had a public hearing 997 01:43:15,650 --> 01:43:16,750 and we'll have a roll call vote. 998 01:43:23,770 --> 01:43:26,790 Okay, I think we started this round with Hess. 999 01:43:27,470 --> 01:43:27,590 Yes. 1000 01:43:29,470 --> 01:43:30,530 And Jones. 1001 01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:32,130 Yes. 1002 01:43:33,290 --> 01:43:33,830 Merit. 1003 01:43:34,290 --> 01:43:34,550 Yes. 1004 01:43:35,650 --> 01:43:36,190 Ramos. 1005 01:43:36,810 --> 01:43:37,110 Yes. 1006 01:43:37,110 --> 01:43:37,190 Yes. 1007 01:43:37,790 --> 01:43:38,590 Cheryl. 1008 01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:39,690 Yes. 1009 01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:40,870 The Seaka. 1010 01:43:41,610 --> 01:43:41,750 Yes. 1011 01:43:42,830 --> 01:43:43,690 Von Lossberg. 1012 01:43:44,050 --> 01:43:44,290 Yes. 1013 01:43:45,290 --> 01:43:46,090 West. 1014 01:43:46,690 --> 01:43:46,870 Yes. 1015 01:43:49,070 --> 01:43:49,470 Anderson. 1016 01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:50,550 Yes. 1017 01:43:51,610 --> 01:43:52,410 Contas. 1018 01:43:53,070 --> 01:43:53,650 Yes. 1019 01:43:54,290 --> 01:43:54,970 And Harp. 1020 01:43:55,970 --> 01:43:56,770 Yes. 1021 01:43:57,670 --> 01:44:00,290 And would any of you like to change your vote? 1022 01:44:01,350 --> 01:44:03,830 As eleven eyes and one Emson. 1023 01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:08,830 And, important me, the motion is approved. 1024 01:44:08,830 --> 01:44:11,830 We have no additional items for final consideration. 1025 01:44:12,850 --> 01:44:16,210 The seed name will move on to communications from the mayor. 1026 01:44:19,630 --> 01:44:31,890 Our council meetings are fundamentally business meetings and that they don't create opportunity for meaningful dialogue in many cases or exchange of information with the residents. 1027 01:44:31,890 --> 01:44:55,750 We serve, so we sort of hear a side or a side and we absorb and we're not in a position to react or converse or in some cases correct and in other cases applaud. 1028 01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:58,070 And that's unfortunate. 1029 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:28,220 And maybe someday I will figure that out, but I haven't. Today, and I've been working at it for almost 16 years now. What I do know is that we do have some opportunities to talk with each other, and we do have some opportunities to work with each other. I appreciate the folks who participated in the public comment portion of our meeting, our meeting this evening, and talked about the challenges facing not only renters, but folks seeking to purchase homes in our community. 1030 01:45:28,220 --> 01:45:35,920 and we have been working on these issues for a very long time and they have been exacerbated 1031 01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:43,680 painfully by a global pandemic. But I do know that this body is responsible for much 1032 01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:53,520 and controls little. But what is within our control, we will endeavor to change and modify 1033 01:45:53,520 --> 01:46:03,160 and make better. There were a number of suggestions this evening that in another state perhaps 1034 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:12,780 another world based on the legislation that came through in Helen of this session. There are 1035 01:46:12,780 --> 01:46:20,580 great ideas. They are not within our reach and they are very unlikely to ever be in our reach in 1036 01:46:20,580 --> 01:46:25,100 Montana unless there's a market change in who gets elected and sent the state 1037 01:46:25,100 --> 01:46:30,960 house to represent communities like the Zua and others around the state. So some 1038 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:37,640 of those ideas are simply off the table. What is on the table is I hope a 1039 01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:42,660 conversation or two and the continuation of the program that we have in play 1040 01:46:42,660 --> 01:46:47,640 a song investment in affordable housing which unfortunately is 1041 01:46:47,640 --> 01:47:00,900 as a function of as a function of the the nature of construction approval and now is further jeopardized by increases in material costs and labor shortages. 1042 01:47:01,740 --> 01:47:12,520 There's a there's a perfect storm here that I think we're writing out but what we can do is continue to make those investments through tiff and through other programs. 1043 01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:26,240 I think I'd be remiss in not emphasizing that the first place that place was like the YWCA and the power yellow and any nonprofit housing developer attempting to create inventory to serve. 1044 01:47:27,020 --> 01:47:33,540 low-to-moderate income resilience come to is the Missouri Development Agency and 1045 01:47:33,540 --> 01:47:40,560 that redevelopment agency opens its arms to those proposals and invests in 1046 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:47,540 them heavily and to every degree possible and now we're moving into the 1047 01:47:47,540 --> 01:47:50,750 business of actually purchasing land for the purpose of housing and 1048 01:47:50,750 --> 01:47:58,330 developing housing. Again, it's slow and it's painful, but TIF continues to do much 1049 01:47:58,330 --> 01:48:04,770 more good work in that arena. And frankly, those projects that some folks don't like 1050 01:48:04,770 --> 01:48:09,990 very much are putting money in the banks so that we can do these other projects. There 1051 01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:14,790 is a means to an end there. I don't object to those projects, but I get that some people 1052 01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:19,930 do. But fundamentally, if you can look beyond those objections, I think you can't recognize 1053 01:48:19,930 --> 01:48:30,250 is that those projects are fueling the engine of affordable housing in our community and I think it's important to remember that. 1054 01:48:30,730 --> 01:48:45,490 One of the things that I intend to do is, is arrange a summit of, of, of property managers in the, who are associated and landlords who are associated through the western. 1055 01:48:45,490 --> 01:48:51,850 my kind of language association to have a conversation about what we might be able to do collaboratively 1056 01:48:51,850 --> 01:49:00,050 and cooperatively to anticipate some of these changes to better understand why some property owners 1057 01:49:00,050 --> 01:49:05,730 are making the choices that they're making and to understand if through our ARPA funds and through 1058 01:49:05,730 --> 01:49:13,830 those funds at Mesula County and some other resources we can make a change and help alter that 1059 01:49:13,830 --> 01:49:20,550 decision or or expand that decision space so that that an economic eviction which is really what 1060 01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:30,810 is happening does not occur. That's a function of subsidy and if we have resources and we are 1061 01:49:30,810 --> 01:49:39,230 allowed through treasury guidelines to deploy some of the ARPA money to temper that. I like that 1062 01:49:39,230 --> 01:49:47,250 a lot and I think that's worth pursuing. So we'll get on that case almost immediately and I 1063 01:49:47,250 --> 01:49:53,310 have had conversations with my colleagues at Missouri County about this very thing and what our 1064 01:49:53,310 --> 01:49:58,950 opportunities are through ARPA and there are some once in a lifetime opportunities and this is a once in a 1065 01:49:58,950 --> 01:50:09,150 lifetime situation. I also have to suggest that that there are not only two sides to every story but often six 1066 01:50:09,150 --> 01:50:24,300 seven or dozens and when we talk about police harassing anyone, I think we need to be really careful about those characterizations. 1067 01:50:26,020 --> 01:50:35,280 When police officers are responding to a camping situation, that is a subject of a resident complaint. 1068 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:49,360 That resident has opinions and rights and responsibilities in the same way that the folks who would like to allow camping everywhere have. 1069 01:50:50,700 --> 01:50:59,760 And we have laws on the books and we are responsible for meeting the demands of those calls for service. 1070 01:51:00,460 --> 01:51:06,860 in my experience, those calls for service are not harassment. 1071 01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,220 Cops don't like to make those stops. 1072 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,940 Cops don't like to have those conversations, but they are required to. 1073 01:51:14,140 --> 01:51:15,480 And I can tell you. 1074 01:51:16,660 --> 01:51:23,720 I have likely as many anecdotes around cops reaching out into their pockets for gas money or. 1075 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:39,320 Or or into a petty hash at the police department to fund a hotel room for someone as as other folks do for cases of what they call harassment. 1076 01:51:40,060 --> 01:51:48,360 There's a balance strike here and we are in the business of balance and I understand that advocates are advocating and that is entirely appropriate. 1077 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:54,980 I don't get hired to advocate. I get hired to make challenging decisions with all of you 1078 01:51:55,660 --> 01:51:59,780 and to strike a balance that makes sense for our community. And I don't think we're in a position 1079 01:51:59,780 --> 01:52:08,800 to seed public land to camping. That's not where we are today, and we can't see public land 1080 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:17,160 that is in floodway. That is not set up for providing sanitary conditions for campers. 1081 01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,820 And it was never intended for camping. 1082 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:28,400 Having said that, I do believe that we have a path forward for creating more sanctioned camping areas. 1083 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:37,060 And I believe while those sanctioned camps have been disastrous in some other communities, they have not here. 1084 01:52:37,060 --> 01:52:47,620 the folks who tipped up the temporary outdoor space have been expert in the management and 1085 01:52:47,620 --> 01:52:56,580 operation of those facilities and and have had success in finding folks permanent housing. The 1086 01:52:56,580 --> 01:53:03,760 way to fix the way to fix homelessness is to create housing. In the short term, the best we're 1087 01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:10,240 going to be able to do this temporary housing. In the long term, we can and will, I believe, create 1088 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:20,020 sustainable supportive housing for folks who require considerable level of service in order 1089 01:53:20,020 --> 01:53:28,820 to maintain their lives and be safe and healthy. And other cases will work to create with partners 1090 01:53:28,820 --> 01:53:35,420 housing that is affordable for more resilience. This is tough. We ain't alone, we're not the only 1091 01:53:35,420 --> 01:53:45,140 community experiencing this crisis today. That is cold comfort, but we can also find ideas and 1092 01:53:45,140 --> 01:53:53,060 opportunities elsewhere. And I will tell you that I believe we're much farther down a path of addressing 1093 01:53:53,060 --> 01:53:58,120 this crisis than many of those communities are because we've been thinking about it for a very 1094 01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:05,840 long time. We live in a desirable place that I hope remains desirable for everyone and safe for 1095 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:13,020 everyone. So short version as I appreciate the comments, some of which we simply can't do the 1096 01:54:13,020 --> 01:54:19,160 some of which we are taking to heart and will endeavor to employ and we're going to take some new steps 1097 01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:26,080 as well to try to put a dent in the immediate pain and suffering that people are experiencing in our 1098 01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:31,840 community. With that, I will move on to general comments from council members and 1099 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:36,180 this heart is in the top left corner of my screen where we're starting this evening. 1100 01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:43,700 Thank you. I appreciate those comments, Mayor. I think we all know we have a huge 1101 01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:45,460 lemon in front of us. 1102 01:54:47,620 --> 01:54:51,860 So I guess I kind of wonder what truly is within our power. 1103 01:54:51,860 --> 01:55:12,660 If we don't have the ability to fork back or shift to panic plates and create more land and we also are limited by a state legislature that we aren't allowed to use inclusionary zoning nor do we have the ability to step in and put ceiling on people's rents or prevent people from being evicted. 1104 01:55:13,580 --> 01:55:17,040 So then I get that comes back to what we do actually have power over. 1105 01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:25,160 And I appreciate you mentioning the use of tax increment financing as one of those methodologies. 1106 01:55:25,940 --> 01:55:35,100 But I would also like to pursue the idea of what we can do with our own zoning as well as our growth policy. 1107 01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:40,720 And I know with our growth policy was just created back in 2015, so we're only six years into this. 1108 01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,740 but I don't know how long these policies are supposed to last 1109 01:55:43,740 --> 01:55:52,020 before we are faced with a huge, sorry, housing crisis 1110 01:55:52,020 --> 01:55:53,840 and not do anything about it. 1111 01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:56,400 So I would like us to really kind of think 1112 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,500 about re-examining that and looking 1113 01:55:59,500 --> 01:56:03,860 at where there are neighborhoods that have 30,000 square foot 1114 01:56:03,860 --> 01:56:07,100 locks, what we can do a little bit differently 1115 01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:08,600 to make room for more people. 1116 01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:17,540 And I think we, I don't know when, whenever is going to be the best time except for today and to start moving that needle forward. 1117 01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:28,660 And I think it's, we are woefully behind if we, if we intend in any shape or form to really address our communities need. 1118 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:35,180 Otherwise, we're going to lose our teachers, our firefighters or police officers, our barista, our restaurant tours. 1119 01:56:35,180 --> 01:56:42,600 all of them are within that 40 to 80 percent of AMI and it's they can't afford to live here. 1120 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:49,660 And if they can't have to travel in our each direction, well was on us. Thank you. 1121 01:56:50,180 --> 01:56:50,920 The shots. 1122 01:56:55,440 --> 01:57:00,120 Thank you. Yes, thanks for the comments, Mayor. That was well put. 1123 01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:08,400 On a different topic for a minute, I did want to announce that there is an open house this Saturday. 1124 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:13,020 at the native prairie which is located in between the mazillion building and the river. 1125 01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:20,520 The open house on May 22nd, Saturday will be held from between two to four o'clock and 1126 01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:27,620 the, we have many volunteers who diligently maintain that and they'll be giving an open house, 1127 01:57:27,620 --> 01:57:31,520 they'll be giving tours, talking about the different plants that are there. It's really quite 1128 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:39,600 fascinating and this is this is a little snapshot of what our valley looked like many many years ago 1129 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:45,740 before it was developed with the native plants so it's a special thing and and regarding the 1130 01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:53,080 topic of the day and the topic of always I think on city council affordable housing I appreciated 1131 01:57:53,080 --> 01:58:00,180 the comments this at the beginning of the meeting it I would say the entire time I've been on council we've 1132 01:58:00,180 --> 01:58:05,660 been talking about affordable housing. And I think there are many counselors who are 1133 01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:12,160 beyond concerned about this and highly aware of the fact that we simply don't have a lot 1134 01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:18,560 of tools to address this and then to go through the last legislative session when we lost 1135 01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:24,300 some of the few tools that we had and then to see scenarios where creative ideas were floated 1136 01:58:24,300 --> 01:58:32,560 such as using money from the trust fund, the coal severance trust fund to go towards housing 1137 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:38,980 tax credits and seeing that shot down is just painful and beyond frustrating and frankly 1138 01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:46,280 pretty tone deaf, if you ask me of the legislature, to not give us more to work with when we've had 1139 01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:52,700 this affordable housing issue continuing to become more and more serious and then have it simply 1140 01:58:52,700 --> 01:58:59,080 blow up in front of our eyes with the pandemic. So I think a lot of counselors are beyond frustrated. 1141 01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:04,120 We too would like to do a lot more, but we're going to have to focus on what we can do. 1142 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:10,660 And I'm a very common sense practical person. I'm not going to waste a lot of time talking about all 1143 01:59:10,660 --> 01:59:15,160 the things that I can't do. I think we talk about what we can do, and I'm very glad we've got TIFF 1144 01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:21,860 and have frankly set up a strong MRA program over the past few decades. So we've got that in our 1145 01:59:21,860 --> 01:59:27,880 back pocket to work with. And I think we're going to keep working on it as best we can. The 1146 01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:35,340 other thing is I'm spending a lot of time on meetings regarding homeless and the forecast is, 1147 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:40,040 we're going to have a big increase in homeless. I think it's already started frankly and people 1148 01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:46,220 who do not have housing. So, which I have been thinking for the last year, of course, this is 1149 01:59:46,220 --> 01:59:51,180 going to happen because people who have less resources are getting hit harder by this pandemic. 1150 01:59:51,180 --> 01:59:59,540 So, as a community, I hope we start having conversations more about, I mean, I see a lot of public comment. 1151 02:00:00,690 --> 02:00:30,050 People don't want there to be people in Missoula without housing. They want them to go away. They want them to be somewhere else. It isn't, it isn't possible. And we're going to have to figure out how as a community, we take care of the people that live in this community and we do a lot of that, but we can always do more. And that, that includes people who are renting. And we are seeing and hearing some pretty severe stories of incredibly steep rents going up. 1152 02:00:30,050 --> 02:00:34,430 And I think it's a good idea to start having some community conversations. 1153 02:00:35,470 --> 02:00:57,650 I understand it's legal. I understand the market supports it, but it nonetheless is a good conversation to have about how do we take care of our people in this community. So I hope that's a constructive conversation and Mayor and I think you're the best person in this community to lead that. So let me know how I can help. Thank you. 1154 02:00:58,510 --> 02:00:59,430 Mr. Santos. 1155 02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:05,940 Well passed. Thank you. 1156 02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:07,480 Ms. Visita. 1157 02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:09,840 Pass as well. Thank you. 1158 02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:14,750 Sir Mr. Lucien. 1159 02:01:23,900 --> 02:01:25,220 Did I get on? Okay. 1160 02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:28,220 I just want to in response to Heather. 1161 02:01:29,860 --> 02:01:35,500 The growth policy by state law is supposed to be reviewed at least every five years. 1162 02:01:36,380 --> 02:01:41,660 So you are you do have tools available to try and keep your growth policy more current. 1163 02:01:41,660 --> 02:01:51,680 and one of the main tools the city council has to address density is zoning regulation so that's 1164 02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:58,300 another area where the city council might want to give some thought so growth policies typically 1165 02:01:58,300 --> 02:02:05,320 are to be for 20 years but there to be revised or reviewed excuse me reviewed at least every five 1166 02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:12,800 five years and zoning density is a major tool that the City Council has to address residential 1167 02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:13,480 density. 1168 02:02:15,410 --> 02:02:16,790 Thank you, Councillor. 1169 02:02:18,290 --> 02:02:19,190 Ms. West. 1170 02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:23,740 Thank you, sir. 1171 02:02:23,880 --> 02:02:26,780 I'm going to toggle between screens here for a second. 1172 02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:34,340 So I did actually want to reference Montana State Law, which defines who has authority over 1173 02:02:34,340 --> 02:02:45,280 Landlord and tenant relationships. That was set forth in the Montana Residential Landlord and tenant act of 1977 and it was further. 1174 02:02:46,700 --> 02:03:02,540 I guess refined to expressly prohibit local governments with self-government powers from basically regulating anything related to landlords with the exception of a few things that are 1175 02:03:02,540 --> 02:03:12,140 called out in state law and that is also in Montana code annotated and I want 1176 02:03:12,140 --> 02:03:18,160 to bring this up because I think it's really important that people who have 1177 02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:22,380 these stories share them in spaces and with people that can actually affect 1178 02:03:22,380 --> 02:03:27,040 their lives for the better and while I think it's I mean it's important for all 1179 02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:31,960 of us to be aware what's happening to all of our neighbors I think we are 1180 02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:40,480 aware and we feel equally powerless to do anything about it. I think the things we do do 1181 02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:49,960 are creative and within the things that we are allowed to do. For example, we are working 1182 02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:55,820 on creating a centralized background check system that's called out on page 40 of our housing 1183 02:03:55,820 --> 02:04:02,840 policy my guess though is that it isn't something we could make mandatory for landlords to use 1184 02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:12,600 I think people would have to opt in and I guess I would encourage people who have these stories 1185 02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:19,500 to share them with those that could actually make changes on the state level by either enabling 1186 02:04:19,500 --> 02:04:26,500 this as a power for self-governing entities or by actually making changes to the landlord 1187 02:04:26,500 --> 02:04:36,900 can and act itself. And so all just most of our delegation I think is you know in support 1188 02:04:36,900 --> 02:04:47,100 and aware and that we should reach out to the republicans, republicans especially that 1189 02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:52,840 that represent Missoula because they are in the majority and we would need them to enact 1190 02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:57,700 any sort of change. So those are House District 92, Mike Hopkins, 1191 02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:05,220 House District 96, Kathy Whitman, House District 97, Brad Cheetah, and in the Senate, Senate District 1192 02:05:05,220 --> 02:05:13,320 90, whoops, no 47 and that stands Solomon. I think it is really important that our state 1193 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:22,340 level representatives here, what we hear because we need them on board for, you know, to make 1194 02:05:22,340 --> 02:05:29,600 some of these really big changes that would allow us to make housing in Missoula something 1195 02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:35,280 that's more accessible and more attainable to a broader sector of people. So I'll just leave 1196 02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:43,220 it there and hope that the same folks that come and reach out to us also reach out to the 1197 02:05:43,220 --> 02:05:45,960 people that can actually make a difference on this subject. 1198 02:05:47,300 --> 02:05:48,200 Ms. Murray. 1199 02:05:51,080 --> 02:06:01,800 Thanks, and I appreciate mayor, your convening group involving the property managers and landlords. 1200 02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:10,460 That to me, that the most one of the most important things is to keep people who are currently housed, 1201 02:06:10,460 --> 02:06:16,040 to keep them in their housing. It's going to be it's I mean it's better for them 1202 02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:22,240 period but I can't imagine the stress of getting evicted or having your 1203 02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:25,960 rent raised so that you're just having a financial affection even if it's not 1204 02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:33,520 a legal eviction. In this age where we've got less than 1% vacancy rate in 1205 02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:53,500 So keeping those people who are housed in their homes is key and I would be happy to help in any way possible with that, you know, a year ago when the pandemic first started a number of my colleagues here on council 1206 02:06:53,500 --> 02:07:01,380 will sign a letter addressed to the property managers and landlords of this community asking 1207 02:07:01,380 --> 02:07:08,460 them to please consider whatever actions they could to help keep people housed and I 1208 02:07:08,460 --> 02:07:13,180 continue to think that that is the most important thing. I wanted to mention a couple of things 1209 02:07:13,180 --> 02:07:19,800 that are available to landlords. So the Montana housing emergency rental assistance program 1210 02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:29,840 is not just for renters landlords can apply for that money and if you need assistance in doing that you can contact the state. 1211 02:07:31,060 --> 02:07:44,940 And there I understand that there is also an employee at the Missoula Food Bank who is assisting renters with filling out the application necessary to get that assistance and perhaps they can help the landlords as well. 1212 02:07:44,940 --> 02:08:02,440 That money for renters you can also apply for assistance with your utilities through the Montana housing rental assistance up to $300 for past due utility bills. 1213 02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:05,640 And then I wanted to mention one other thing. 1214 02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:18,400 So our friends and neighbors at Homeward have a position in their organization who's a landlord liaison and his name is Alex Ramzig. 1215 02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:29,700 And that position was designed to assist landlords with renting to people who maybe have higher barriers. 1216 02:08:29,700 --> 02:08:46,300 And that is really important. So if you're a landlord out there and you're having trouble with a tenant or you just are nervous about renting to someone who has affectionate voucher or any other type of barrier. 1217 02:08:46,300 --> 02:09:14,860 that landlord liaison position is there to help you through that there's actually a risk mitigation fund that I know that I've heard it from some landlords that they're concerned about renting to people who have something in their background that might be concerning that risk mitigation fund is available if you become one of the property partners with through the landlord liaison office. 1218 02:09:14,860 --> 02:09:24,740 So please let's let's do our best to keep our Missoula residents who are housed in their homes. That's the best thing that we can do for people. 1219 02:09:28,820 --> 02:09:34,680 Thank you so much, Mr. Mayor and thank you to my fellow colleagues, especially Miss West, I think it's really important. 1220 02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:41,240 And I know when most of us, I won't speak for everyone, myself, when I ran for City Council, 1221 02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:46,120 I did it because I wanted to help my community and I wanted to give back and I was excited 1222 02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:50,300 to take into this role and figure out the ways in which I could affect change and make 1223 02:09:50,300 --> 02:09:51,960 a difference in people's daily lives. 1224 02:09:52,100 --> 02:09:56,680 And we've been able to do that, but what the thing that has surprised me the most in my 1225 02:09:56,680 --> 02:10:00,880 time on Council is the size of our decision making box. 1226 02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:09,260 We are trying to be creative within the box that we are given, but we are limited by the rules set forth. 1227 02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:15,480 You know, we are a city within a county within a state within a federal government or a bigger country. 1228 02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:19,520 And we have all the different levels of law and who controls what. 1229 02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:28,460 And we get sound to us, even though we're the most accessible, we're the ones you run into at the farmers market, the where we have on. 1230 02:10:28,460 --> 02:10:34,000 And this our decision making box is surprisingly small and I know it is a source of frustration, 1231 02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:36,960 especially around land use in this issue. 1232 02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:44,000 And to couple that with the infuriating last legislative session that felt like day in 1233 02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:49,500 day out was an attack on Missoula and some of the things that we were trying to do and some 1234 02:10:49,500 --> 02:10:53,640 of the creative things we were trying to do, I mean, they actually called it out on the 1235 02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:57,500 legislative floor saying, well, we're doing this because Missoula did X. 1236 02:10:57,500 --> 02:11:02,680 It was incredibly frustrating and when talking with my fellow friends who are legislators 1237 02:11:02,680 --> 02:11:07,460 I would ask them if they would hear from the public the way that we hear from the public and they don't and 1238 02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:10,720 So to miss West Point, you know 1239 02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:15,500 We want you to come to us and want you to share their stories and know that we share that same frustration 1240 02:11:15,500 --> 02:11:19,400 And we will continue to do what we can in the decision making box 1241 02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:27,220 We have with the limited tools we have that feel like they're getting smaller and smaller and we will advocate and share your 1242 02:11:27,220 --> 02:11:32,440 stories, but you also need to take your stories and share them with members of the legislature because 1243 02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:36,320 they're the ones who can really affect change, especially around some of these, you know, 1244 02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:42,560 what seemed to be very common sense changes around landlord tenant law that would seem, you know, 1245 02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:48,080 like it would make a vast difference without costing anybody anything and we can't do it. And 1246 02:11:48,980 --> 02:11:55,480 with last legislative session, somebody asked for all the members of the majority party 1247 02:11:55,480 --> 02:12:02,280 who were landlords to stand up and it was an incredible amount of landlords who 1248 02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:06,500 represent Republican legislators or who are Republican legislators. So you 1249 02:12:06,500 --> 02:12:10,640 start putting the pieces together and it's no wonder that it makes it harder for 1250 02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:13,420 us who are trying to do the right thing who are trying to do the thing by the most 1251 02:12:13,420 --> 02:12:20,280 people that are you know laws and rules are not going to be easier. So with all my 1252 02:12:20,280 --> 02:12:48,140 I ran over. I appreciate the mayor convening a committee. I do think the stories I'm hearing about people who are experiencing 50% rental increases is just, you know, the mayor is going to be more diplomatic than I am, but that is criminal. When your rank goes from $1,095 to $1,195 and that's the first time you've seen a rental increase in the landlord tries to pass it off as like, oh, well taxes are going up. 1253 02:12:48,140 --> 02:12:51,000 We didn't raise taxes last year in the Missoula city. 1254 02:12:51,660 --> 02:12:57,340 So they're just trying to take advantage of the fact that we have a low vacancy rate 1255 02:12:57,340 --> 02:12:59,420 and they know they can squeeze the market. 1256 02:12:59,700 --> 02:13:02,760 And that is just not how things should be done here in Missoula. 1257 02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:07,160 So the mayor will typically take this on and I'll be cheering on his efforts. 1258 02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:11,100 But I'd like to transition quickly to a happier note. 1259 02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:16,520 The Helgate band, I know Gwen would have said this, but she had lots of other important 1260 02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:21,500 things to say. They are raising money for their food truck. They are doing outdoor concerts 1261 02:13:21,500 --> 02:13:28,560 on Thursday nights. If it doesn't snow this Thursday, they may be at Big Dipper from 7 to 8. 1262 02:13:29,060 --> 02:13:33,820 But they will definitely be there the following Thursday. My husband and my family and I went 1263 02:13:34,300 --> 02:13:40,060 last week. And it was so much fun. We got ice cream. We got to see people out and about. 1264 02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:46,200 you know these kids are obviously having a wonderful time playing amazing 1265 02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:51,640 music is one of the cool things about Missoula so come out support our local 1266 02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:56,920 band support our local business see your friends and neighbors and I encourage 1267 02:13:56,920 --> 02:14:01,380 you this Thursday and following Thursday from 7 to 8 at the Big Dipper so 1268 02:14:01,380 --> 02:14:07,580 thank you everybody and for the adults you knew a little time tonight and Mr. 1269 02:14:11,050 --> 02:14:18,590 My comments would be largely redundant with yours and my colleagues, but I would highlight the points that Heidi made. 1270 02:14:19,310 --> 02:14:21,010 These are important stories to share. 1271 02:14:22,130 --> 02:14:26,030 And I want to honor the people who shared those stories. It's difficult to do that. 1272 02:14:26,230 --> 02:14:31,890 We've been hearing this in public comment. We've been hearing it, you know, in email and in discussions. 1273 02:14:32,450 --> 02:14:36,390 I'm appreciative for the stories. And I would highlight Heidi's point about. 1274 02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:40,750 but state legislative needing to hear these stories as well. 1275 02:14:41,390 --> 02:14:46,910 I've always been someone who likes to get in the weeds and work issues. 1276 02:14:47,670 --> 02:14:54,130 The mayor mentioned sanctioned camping and doing some further exploration there. 1277 02:14:54,130 --> 02:14:59,970 I think it was brave of some of the staff folks to propose. 1278 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:28,780 I was a temporary safe outdoor space. I was in some of the earliest conversations around that and was supportive then and have expressed my support for further exploring that to the mayor. And, you know, we'll keep working. The other solutions available to us. Thanks. Mr. Rebels. I will pass. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Sure. Yeah, thanks. I don't want to be redundant either. So I don't want to. 1279 02:15:28,780 --> 02:15:30,960 I appreciate everyone's comments. 1280 02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:35,120 This is a really complex problem of housing prices 1281 02:15:35,900 --> 02:15:39,400 and people experiencing homelessness. 1282 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:42,780 I read an article recently that was talking about 1283 02:15:43,140 --> 02:15:47,580 the federal tax base and talking about like in the 60s 1284 02:15:47,580 --> 02:15:53,080 corporate taxes made up 35% of the overall taxes collected 1285 02:15:53,080 --> 02:15:54,440 by the federal government. 1286 02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:57,880 And today it is 7%. 1287 02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:03,500 We can point to pulling back from what we're doing locally and what we can do locally. 1288 02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:09,100 We can point to wages not keeping up, the cost of medical care and the lack of insurance, 1289 02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:16,200 the cost of child care, not to mention what I personally am experiencing as an outrageous 1290 02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:21,200 price tag for college education, all of these are contributing factors. 1291 02:16:22,180 --> 02:16:40,500 I guess I would just say, you know, I like to be hopeful and I could go down a rabbit hole in this and talk about some of the predictions for the increase in homelessness that they are thinking that we are going to experience nationally. 1292 02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:46,820 which is the normative of it is really just kind of hard to get my head around. 1293 02:16:47,060 --> 02:16:53,920 But I do hope that with the incredible wealth disparity that we're experiencing in this country, 1294 02:16:54,720 --> 02:17:01,740 the, you know, cosmic political divide paired with this pandemic, this will somehow push 1295 02:17:01,740 --> 02:17:09,640 us past what is a flawed theory of Reagan era economics and to understand that this 1296 02:17:09,640 --> 02:17:14,820 struggle down effect is not work, it has not been working, and I hope that this change 1297 02:17:14,820 --> 02:17:21,880 is coming on a national level, and I hope that the prediction of a 40% increase in homelessness 1298 02:17:21,880 --> 02:17:30,780 nationally, when the LA had 14% they were absolutely in crisis. That was about five, six years ago, 1299 02:17:30,820 --> 02:17:38,940 they were reporting a 14% increase. So I do hope that one thing that might come out of it other 1300 02:17:38,940 --> 02:17:45,220 than a lot of suffering is that we will be forced as a nation to push past what has been a flawed 1301 02:17:45,220 --> 02:17:51,760 era in the economics and I just I appreciate the mayor's comments I appreciate my colleagues 1302 02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:59,060 comments and I feel like this we are committed to doing what we can and what our side boards allow 1303 02:17:59,640 --> 02:18:00,740 in the city of Missoula. 1304 02:18:02,900 --> 02:18:04,880 Mr. Hatch you're back and clean up. 1305 02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:10,300 Thanks there's not much to clean up mayor there's been a lot of good points and I really 1306 02:18:10,300 --> 02:18:14,580 appreciate it. It's it's an 1307 02:18:15,460 --> 02:18:17,820 interminable problem that is so frustrating. 1308 02:18:18,700 --> 02:18:22,520 You know this this legislature watched as the median price of a home in 1309 02:18:22,520 --> 02:18:26,520 Mozilla went up by over a hundred thousand dollars in the last year. And this 1310 02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:28,520 legislature didn't do a damn thing about it. 1311 02:18:29,420 --> 02:18:33,840 They watched as rents increased by double digit percentages in Mozilla and in 1312 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:37,140 other parts of the state and this legislature didn't do a damn thing about that. 1313 02:18:37,140 --> 02:18:41,360 they watched as families and students and seniors and our 1314 02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:45,320 houseless friends and neighbors are hurting as a result of the 1315 02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:48,100 pandemic and this legislature didn't do a damn thing about 1316 02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:49,720 housing and it's shameful. 1317 02:18:50,860 --> 02:18:55,460 And so I appreciate I appreciate my colleagues words tonight 1318 02:18:55,460 --> 02:19:01,000 and I appreciate mayor your collaborative cool headed approach. 1319 02:19:01,980 --> 02:19:02,780 It will serve as well. 1320 02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:13,590 I'm a little more fired up than I usually am because we're in an untenable situation because this legislature didn't do a damn thing about housing. 1321 02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:23,830 So we'll do what we've always done. We'll get back on the horse. We'll keep working to try to chip away at this problem. 1322 02:19:25,150 --> 02:19:29,610 It'd be nice to have a little help over here with some policy assistance with some financial assistance. 1323 02:19:29,610 --> 02:19:37,890 But we'll we'll go it alone if we have to we'll get more creative with implementation of a place to call home. 1324 02:19:40,770 --> 02:19:44,370 And necessity will continue to breed innovation around here. 1325 02:19:44,670 --> 02:19:48,750 So we'll do what we can and we'll do it together. 1326 02:19:50,450 --> 02:19:53,450 And I look forward to working with all of you on it. Thanks. 1327 02:19:53,450 --> 02:19:55,230 Thank you all. 1328 02:19:56,970 --> 02:20:02,090 We don't have any committee reports to see me, gentlemen, or do we have any new business? 1329 02:20:02,710 --> 02:20:04,650 Are there any additional items to be referred? 1330 02:20:06,450 --> 02:20:11,790 Seeing none of those, any miscellaneous communications, petitions, reports or announcements. 1331 02:20:13,190 --> 02:20:18,450 Seeing none of those as always in particular, the Cion, I'm sorry, Mr. Bon Asher. 1332 02:20:19,350 --> 02:20:19,950 Sorry. 1333 02:20:19,950 --> 02:20:40,130 All right. One miscellaneous announcement. I have expressed this before, but just wanted to make official after consulting with Marty and Emily Harris shares that my design me in my council president role for that spot on the affordable housing trust on oversight committee will be my colleague Heidi West. 1334 02:20:40,130 --> 02:20:45,710 I've spoken about why she's the perfect representative from council to fill that spot. 1335 02:20:46,050 --> 02:20:47,390 I won't belabor that point. 1336 02:20:47,790 --> 02:20:49,710 I'm grateful that she's willing to serve. 1337 02:20:49,890 --> 02:20:50,990 So I just wanted to make that official. 1338 02:20:52,050 --> 02:20:53,370 Thank you, Mr. Bon Osberg. 1339 02:20:54,370 --> 02:21:00,070 Seeing no other virtual hands in the air as always, in particular, the seeding, I thank you 1340 02:21:00,070 --> 02:21:00,830 for your service. 1341 02:21:01,650 --> 02:21:02,950 And we will be adjourned.