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go ahead

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and get this

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meeting started. It's

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Mr. Otto.

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Our first order of business today is to

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do the oath of office for two brand-new board members that

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we're very pleased to have that joined our group and was

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appointed by the governor of our great state.

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And so with that, I would ask that Jordan Bradberry

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come up, as well as Robby Myers, and take the oath of office.

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So I have

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Jordan. I'll do Jordan first. We'll get Jordan taken care of, yeah?

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Okay. Well,

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we appreciate you being here and joining our group, and so the oath of office

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today.

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Raise your right hand, please.

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I, Jordan Bradberry

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... do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the

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Constitution of the United States

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... do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States

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... and the Constitution of the State of Missouri

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... and the Constitution of the State of Missouri

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... and faithfully perform the duties of a member of the Missouri State Board of

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Education

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... and faithfully perform the duties of a member of the

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Missouri State Board of Education

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... to the best of my ability

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... to the best of my ability.

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Very good. Thank you. Appreciate it, Jordan. Thank you.

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No, I'll go ahead and get your oath done.

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How about that? Do you want it?

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I'll take it.

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Very good. So if you would, raise your right hand.

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I, Robby Myers

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... do solemnly swear

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... do solemnly swear

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... that I will support the Constitution of the United States

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... that I will support the Constitution of the United States

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... and the Constitution of the State of Missouri

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... and the Constitution of the State of Missouri

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... and faithfully perform the duties

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... and faithfully perform the duties

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... of a member of the Missouri State Board of Education

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... of a member of the State Board of Education

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So are photos being taken here?

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Yes.

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Yes, and we'd like to get a picture

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with you and your family as well.

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Okay. Yeah, they still have yet.

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Oh, my gosh. They didn't get hit by the alarm or

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anything?

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That's nice.

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Very good.

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Get your family up here. Yeah, absolutely.

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Your wife and daughter.

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Son. Okay, great.

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All right.

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Precious.

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She's my favorite daughter.

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Maybe I'll have-

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If you'd like.

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Oh, okay. Sure.

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I hear those-

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If you could, that'd be... Yeah.

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do it.

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Thank you.

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Good job, hon. Thank you.

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Fantastic.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Welcome to the board.

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See you later.

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There's my daddy.

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Okay, so we'll go ahead. Our second item of

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business is the election of officers.

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I, at this time, serve as vice president, and so,

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I need to call on...

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I do need to introduce Stacy Pries.

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I apologize. Dr. Pries is our interim superintendent of

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schools.

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She wrote some things down here about her experience, how great she

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was, and everything.

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I didn't write that.

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Not really, but we, I think would say, who are on that committee,

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are very much appreciative

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of her joining our program, her

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providing her skill set to our specific program, and truly

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assisting us in what we do. And it just

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worked out perfectly that you were available to us, and we're

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just thankful to have you. So, with that, we need to get

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election of officers taken care of. Do you have...?

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I do.

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Okay. Very good.

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Thank you, Vice President Miller.

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We'll now proceed to the election of officers for the Missouri State Board of

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Education. In accordance with board policy, the first office to be

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elected is the president of the board.

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So, at this time, I will open the floor to nominations for president of the

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Missouri State Board of Education.

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I move to nominate Brooks Miller for president of the Board of Education.

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I second.

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I move to nominate John Otto

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for president.

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Thank you. And a second?

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We need a second for that.

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Are there any

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additional nominations?

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Okay. Seeing no further nominations, the nominations for president are now

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closed. We will proceed to the vote.

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Board members, please cast your vote for president of the Missouri State Board of

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Education. Madam Secretary, please call the roll.

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Ms. Casey?

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Brooks Miller.

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Mr. Matusik?

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Give me names, there are two.

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Well, hers didn't get a second.

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Didn't get a second. There's really only one.

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Oh, okay. Yes.

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Bradberry?

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Mr. Myers?

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Mr. Otto?

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Dr. Scholl?

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Ms. Westbrooks-Hodge?

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The same.

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Mr. Miller?

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Sure. Yes.

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Okay, very good. Now, we move to the vice president of the

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board.

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And I hand it back to you, Mr. President

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... Yeah. Okay, very good. Thank you.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, at this time, we'll take nominations for vice president of the Board of

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Education.

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This is Carey Casey. I move to nominate John Otto for the

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position of vice president of the State Board of Education.

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Second.

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We have a motion and a second. Are there any other

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nominations that would like to come forth at this time?

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Very good. Hearing none, we'll call for a roll call vote.

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Mr. Bradberry?

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Mr. Miller?

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Yes.

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Ms. Westbrooks-Hodge?

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Very good. Welcome, John, as the new vice president of

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the Missouri State Board of Education.

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Thank you.

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Certainly. Okay, so we'll now move on into

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our agenda. Has everybody had the opportunity

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to review the agenda? Are there any additions, corrections,

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and in particular, have you looked at the consent agenda to make sure there's not

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issues there that

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we would want to pull or have further discussion on?

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Cool.

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I think, in terms of the minutes of the previous meeting-

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... Oh. This is for the agenda of today's agenda.

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Agenda.

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Move to approve the agenda.

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Okay. Very good.

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Second.

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Okay. Now I call for motions for the minutes of the...

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Yeah, we've got to vote on them.

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Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I thought it-

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All in favor, yell-

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All in favor of the amend--

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I'm sorry.

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Where were we at? Agenda.

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Okay. So all in favor of the agenda as presented. Forgive me.

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Okay. Any opposed?

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Hearing none, that motion passes.

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Now for the minutes of the May 12th meeting.

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Has everybody-

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Move to approve the minutes.

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Is there a second?

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All those in favor?

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And that passes.

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So now, at this time, we have the commissioner's report

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as slated. So go ahead, if you would, please.

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Once again, Dr. Preece is here as our interim, and

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will be providing this report.

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Thank you.

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First, I just want to thank the board again for entrusting me with this

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responsibility and taking some time last week to talk with me individually about

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your service on the Board of Education.

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Everyone has been very receptive and welcoming, staff have been

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fantastic, and their positive energy is contagious.

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I had the opportunity to attend the new superintendent's meeting on Tuesday and

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meet a few of our incoming school leaders. That was very exciting.

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Yesterday, I met with the governor's staff, and I have my first cabinet meeting

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tomorrow. So we're jumping right in, not wasting any time.

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In between all of these things, the staff and I have continued to advance the

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essential work at the top of the priorities of the board.

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Next, I want to introduce, we have new chief counsel,

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Megan Fork. Megan?

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Megan has been with us for about a month.

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She's back in the-

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You want to stand up, Megan?

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Yes. Stand so they can see you.

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I don't know. I'm short. It doesn't matter.

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Thank you.

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And then I did want to mention

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a former deputy commissioner, the gentleman who served as the deputy

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commissioner when I was here as the Deputy Commissioner of Learning Services, Dr.

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Ron Langford. And many people in this room know he passed away

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recently. Many people in this room and listening online knew former Deputy

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Commissioner of Finance and Administrative Services, Ron Langford.

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As I said, Ron passed away earlier this month.

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At his memorial on Friday, it was clear what an impact he had on education in

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Missouri, from his time as an educator and longtime superintendent in Webb

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City, to his role as deputy commissioner at DESE.

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Ron was honored by DESE as a pioneer in education at

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the annual conference for school administrators, I believe last

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year.

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So just wanted to acknowledge Dr. Langford and his contributions that

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he made to education across the state.

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Next, I have one

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shout-out to our Office of Special Education.

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They're kind of the quiet heroes, and they don't always get to come to the

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table with information. But they had their big review with the

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Office of Special Education at the national level, and

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their state performance plan was approved as meeting all

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requirements. They're one of only 20 states that have had

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that. And

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Mark said he's pretty sure that Missouri has the longest streak of

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meets requirements, that that's been going for about 15 years.

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So we're really proud of the work they do.

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Like I said, that it doesn't always come to the table, but they are

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a rock solid team, so we appreciate that.

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And then lastly, just a little bit of an update on the AF grade

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card

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report. We are doing our final edits to our executive

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order response regarding AF grading, and Assistant Commissioner

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Lisa Sereno has led that team, that includes stakeholders both inside and

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external to DESE.

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When I met with the governor's staff yesterday, they were very complimentary of

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Lisa and the department for the work that's been done so far.

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The response is due to the governor's office by June 30th, so we

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are making finishing touches on that, and won't have any problem hitting that

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deadline. So the next steps will be a review of the plan with

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this board in August, and then consideration

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of the AF grading framework by the board in September.

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So you'll have August to talk about it, discuss it, think about it, digest it, and

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then be ready to come back in September to

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give your approval or not.

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Dr. Preece?

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Yes, sir.

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So can you remind me, and is

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the A through F framework going to apply

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to this year's scores or next year?

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So that's part of the discussion that we're having

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right now. So we are to the point that we're

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finished with our work, right? We've worked with our stakeholders.

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We have the framework and everything.

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The sticky part gets into the logistics, and it's more technical than I want to

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delve into. But we're working with the governor's office on

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operationalizing that AF to get it out as quickly as

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possible.

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Just very briefly, we work with a central office of

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information technology, and they service all of the agencies.

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And so when they get new projects, they tend to just be in order of when they came

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in. And so the conversation I had with the governor's office yesterday was, "We

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understand that this is a priority for you, and we have done what we can do up to

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this point.

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We'll be ready to move forward, but

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this is the timeline that OAIT has given us for when they can produce it."

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So they were going to work with them and see if they couldn't accelerate that

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timeline a little bit so that it gets out at a decent time.

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Thank you.

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Okay. You're welcome.

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And that is all I have.

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Very good.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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With that, going into the president's report, we have Pamela Westbrook

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Hodge for the Strategic Planning Committee.

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No update. Thank you.

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Brooks Miller for the legislative committee.

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And for that, I'm going to just hand it over a little bit here to Dr.

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Preece, and give us an update

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Sure. One of the vacancies, as you are aware, is that

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Perry Goral has moved back to college and career

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readiness, and leaving the legislative liaison position as soon as I let him go,

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which I'm not going to do until we have somebody else.

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We are in the process of looking for good candidates for that

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position. So I came in and it had been posted,

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so the chance to look through all of those applications

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and recruit and see if there are any additional people

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who need to be part of that mix, and then we will start that right away.

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There is a sense of urgency to it. Fortunately, we're not in the middle of the

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legislative session right now,

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but there are, as you know, a couple of big vacancies and I'm

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thinking about and working on those, and I'll be sharing with you sort of where I

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intend to go with that. But we will have a leg--

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Hopefully, maybe by the next meeting, I can announce to you that we have a new

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legislative liaison.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Okay. With that, we'll go to the governance committee. John Otto.

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All right. I don't

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have much to update, but

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since the governance committee didn't really meet.

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But I feel since this falls under governance, that maybe we could

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discuss, or I'll just throw out some ideas and we can discuss later,

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the brief agenda for the board

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retreat next month. Since that's only a few weeks away, I

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figured we should probably talk about what we

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wanted to talk about. So, and this is just me as the chair of the

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governance committee, I'm definitely

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happy to discuss or take suggestions, but whether now or

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offline.

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But I was thinking just a

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one day, 9:00 to 3:00 type deal,

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where we just give an orientation overview to the

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new board members. We discuss

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the status or our goals with the strategic plan,

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committee membership, and as you know, we have a strategic plan committee, a

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legislative committee, governance committee, and a finance committee.

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And then there will probably be some ad hoc committees around

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the commissioner search. And

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then,

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also to talk about, since we're all pretty much new now and we're going

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to have a new commissioner, kind of talk about our vision and our strategy and

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goals for this board. So again, that's just suggestions off

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the top of my head. But I'm happy to discuss,

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because June, I think it's July

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14th. That's pretty quick. That's going to be here pretty fast.

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Oh, go ahead.

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Go ahead, Mike.

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Mike Matusik.

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Yeah, I just want to echo what John said.

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I think

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trying to make the most of

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the next

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work session that we have, or retreat in July would be great.

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And I think my only

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comment really is that

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I would love for those meetings to be more of a discussion, right?

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Sort of a board discussion as opposed to sort of

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listening to presentations and asking a few questions.

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I think the board needs to have more time to discuss

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stuff and so that's the only comment I would make, but I think John outlined it

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well. Thank you.

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Ms. Casey?

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Yeah.

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I agree with all those comments, and I have a recommendation that now

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that we have a board president and board vice president,

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that

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you collectively meet and propose an agenda that you can share out to

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the board, and we can offer feedback to you and

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finalize the agenda within the next week.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Yeah, I would also suggest if you have other items...

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So for me, one of the big things was, and I talked about, was

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where we end and where the local districts

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start.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I think that that's something that comes up routinely at some of our

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meetings, and I think if we had an understanding of exactly where our

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lines are and responsibilities and things, that would be very helpful.

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Okay.

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So is the date scheduled for that, is that on July 14th?

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I believe so, right.

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Has the location been announced?

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It'll be right here.

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It'll be right here. Perfect.

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Yeah, nothing fancy.

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Very good.

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Yeah.

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And...

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Yeah. And so I think if any of us have an

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immediate recommendation, just send a note over-

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Mm-hmm

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... or a phone call and then you can pull all that together-

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Yeah

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... and then we can all collectively review and finalize the agenda.

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Yeah, no, that sounds like a good plan, a good idea, and Brooks and I can touch

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base over the next week or so, and then get something out via email.

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And then depending on,

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this is just coming to me, depending on what

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we settle on for the agenda, I didn't know if we wanted to

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have a third-party facilitator to Mike's point.

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We can kind of get bogged down in discussion, and I would want to keep the meeting

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moving forward. So I don't know who that would be, but just throwing that out

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there. But we could talk about it

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offline.

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Yeah.

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What do you anticipate as far as time of meeting? How long?

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Like I said,

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just a midday, 9:00 to 3:00. That way, there's no overnight or

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anything.

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Okay.

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You kind of get to... And maybe do a working lunch or something like that, but.

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Except for Robbie, it'd probably be an overnight.

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Well, that's...

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I'm not getting up at 4:00.

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All right.

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Yeah.

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Any other questions about that, the board retreat?

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I'm certain there will be through the month, and please just don't hesitate to

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reach out to John or myself, and we'll get back with you

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on that.

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Okay.

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Mrs. Casey on the Finance Committee, please.

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Yes. Thank you, President Miller.

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So, the Finance Committee did meet during the month, and

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reviewed reports that you will see today, and let me summarize

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that. You will be seeing an executive summary of

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FY26. That is the current budget year, so

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we're really near the end of it, and you're going to see an

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update to the presentation that has been provided in our previous

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meeting. Our newest team member in the finance department,

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Rebecca, working very closely with Dr.

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Cruz, continues to make

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improvements, if you will, based on our feedback to the manner in which

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that data is presented. So, I hope you'll find today's presentation

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very helpful. And it'll also be helpful to our newest board

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members.

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Following that update on FY26, you will see a

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summary, not in the same format, but more of a written summary,

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on FY27. That

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summary, in future meetings, will evolve.

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But we'll get an update on where we stand with the changes that were made in the

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final budget from the appropriations standpoint, and where the governor

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stands on signature.

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The third thing that you're going to see today is going to be just an

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update on the preparation work to begin

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on FY28.

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So, on that point, I want to share that the

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committee, which consists of John Otto and myself, have had

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discussion about how we will move the

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FY28 budget forward with

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Dr. Cruz. And the committee will be meeting and reviewing all of

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the preparation details,

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the timeline, et cetera, for the FY28 budget.

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Of course, our interim commissioner will be involved appropriately as well.

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We will work, though, with Dr. Cruz to review, at a much more

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detailed level, all the line items and the programs that are funded,

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the justifications, the results, et cetera, and where the final

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recommendations will be

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at from the department's standpoint on what should be in the

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FY28 budget. We will then be bringing key

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insights and key questions for discussion at future board meetings to

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inform you of

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the inputs to the FY28 budget,

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how it will work. It just won't be a review of all the line items.

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We'll bring all of the material items and areas of

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concern, recommendations for change, et cetera, for a broader, full

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discussion, all in line with the timeline that will be spelled out by

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Dr. Cruz,

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so that we will all be prepared to make an approval

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in the appropriate meeting in the fall.

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Okay.

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Questions on that?

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Hearing none, thank you.

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Next on our agenda is the Missouri School

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Funding Modernization Task Force.

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Casey and Westbrook Hodge.

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I'm happy to provide the update, Mr. President.

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Fine. Thank you.

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The task force is now in the recommendation

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development phase of its work. At the June 1st meeting,

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members focused on the county property assessment ratios

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and two modeling options for the school funding formula.

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So, I'll talk about the county property assessment ratios

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first. So, great discussion

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with the State Tax Commission staff.

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We talked about the challenge of obtaining accurate market value

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data for real estate.

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That information is important because property values

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affect local tax capacity, property tax collections,

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and education revenue streams. The task force discussed

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whether the formula should continue using available assessed

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values, adjust local effort based on assessment

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ratios, reduce the role of assessed value, or

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recommend policy improvements outside the formula.

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With respect to modeling options for the school funding formula,

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we continued reviewing two modeling approaches.

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One that modernizes the current formula structure, and

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another that uses a combined wealth index incorporating

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both property and income measures.

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And then finally,

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we were asked to complete a prioritization

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exercise, and members,

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under a hypothetical $400 million limit,

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were asked to prioritize some of the elements of both of

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those

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00:28:59,866 --> 00:29:03,806
modeling options. Again, this is not a final recommendation,

532
00:29:03,906 --> 00:29:07,186
but it will inform continued modeling.

533
00:29:07,686 --> 00:29:11,236
The task force remains on schedule with

534
00:29:11,326 --> 00:29:14,406
stakeholder feedback planned for the fall, and final

535
00:29:14,426 --> 00:29:15,706
recommendations due to

536
00:29:16,826 --> 00:29:20,466
Governor Kehoe by December 1st. That

537
00:29:20,506 --> 00:29:22,226
concludes my update, Mr. President.

538
00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:25,156
Are there any questions with regards to that?

539
00:29:26,026 --> 00:29:28,626
And that task force started meeting one year ago?

540
00:29:30,546 --> 00:29:31,036
Just about.

541
00:29:31,286 --> 00:29:31,646
Yeah.

542
00:29:31,706 --> 00:29:33,496
Yeah, summer 2025.

543
00:29:33,696 --> 00:29:37,066
Yeah. So, there's been a lot of work around this, and it's quite

544
00:29:37,106 --> 00:29:37,746
complicated.

545
00:29:38,706 --> 00:29:41,766
It's quite complicated. The biggest hurdle is

546
00:29:42,246 --> 00:29:42,866
accurate

547
00:29:44,586 --> 00:29:46,366
property values and-

548
00:29:46,406 --> 00:29:46,626
Mm-hmm

549
00:29:47,046 --> 00:29:49,826
... because that's our primary revenue stream.

550
00:29:50,506 --> 00:29:54,266
And so, I'm not quite sure how much control we

551
00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:58,146
have over influencing the accuracy of

552
00:29:58,206 --> 00:29:59,106
those numbers.

553
00:30:00,526 --> 00:30:01,476
Mm-hmm.

554
00:30:01,476 --> 00:30:04,906
So, therein lies our big challenge we're trying to figure out how to work around.

555
00:30:05,226 --> 00:30:08,386
Sure. Brooke? Okay, thank you. Mr. Matusik?

556
00:30:09,686 --> 00:30:11,786
Pamela, just a quick process question.

557
00:30:11,906 --> 00:30:14,046
So, when the task force

558
00:30:14,958 --> 00:30:18,838
The task force will come up with multiple recommendations, several options

559
00:30:18,898 --> 00:30:20,058
for the governor. Is that correct?

560
00:30:20,878 --> 00:30:21,058
Yeah.

561
00:30:22,538 --> 00:30:26,418
Three is the mandate. Right now we're modeling two, which is, one, an

562
00:30:26,558 --> 00:30:30,038
update to the current formula, and then the new one that I just described.

563
00:30:30,178 --> 00:30:33,658
And so will the task force essentially vote on each of the

564
00:30:33,718 --> 00:30:37,158
recommendations that are being sent to the governor, or how does

565
00:30:38,278 --> 00:30:39,498
the task force decide?

566
00:30:40,438 --> 00:30:44,418
So, good question. We haven't gotten to the particulars of

567
00:30:44,458 --> 00:30:48,338
how we will make the decision. My recommendation

568
00:30:48,418 --> 00:30:52,398
would be to use a scoring rubric where we evaluate

569
00:30:52,458 --> 00:30:55,838
each option, so we objectively determine, based

570
00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:59,878
on important attributes, which one best meets

571
00:30:59,938 --> 00:31:03,738
those attributes. That would be my recommendation to be objective and fair.

572
00:31:05,078 --> 00:31:05,418
Thank you.

573
00:31:05,738 --> 00:31:06,278
You're welcome.

574
00:31:07,418 --> 00:31:08,058
President Miller?

575
00:31:08,278 --> 00:31:08,498
Yes.

576
00:31:09,138 --> 00:31:13,058
Thank you. I would like to also give an update on NASBE, the National

577
00:31:13,198 --> 00:31:16,158
State Boards of Education

578
00:31:17,238 --> 00:31:17,898
Association.

579
00:31:18,818 --> 00:31:20,798
So, for our newest board members,

580
00:31:22,038 --> 00:31:25,838
there is an organization called NASBE, the National Association of State

581
00:31:25,938 --> 00:31:29,738
Boards of Education, and we, as the

582
00:31:29,778 --> 00:31:32,178
state of Missouri, are members of this association,

583
00:31:32,998 --> 00:31:36,138
as are many or most of all the other states, as well

584
00:31:38,118 --> 00:31:39,498
as Guam, as a...

585
00:31:42,458 --> 00:31:45,378
Now I forgot the word, but an associated

586
00:31:46,078 --> 00:31:49,818
territory. Thank you. Of the United States.

587
00:31:49,938 --> 00:31:52,358
So, it is a very informative group.

588
00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:56,278
The association continuously brings together board

589
00:31:56,338 --> 00:31:59,538
members from all the states to discuss key topics.

590
00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:03,878
So we learn a lot from each other. They have monthly calls.

591
00:32:03,978 --> 00:32:07,758
They have working groups that might focus on a particular

592
00:32:07,838 --> 00:32:11,018
topic or undertake a particular project.

593
00:32:11,458 --> 00:32:15,358
They hold conferences. There's actually a new member conference that will

594
00:32:15,378 --> 00:32:19,268
be taking place in just a couple of weeks, and it might be too soon for either

595
00:32:19,298 --> 00:32:21,838
of you to travel to it, but it is very informative.

596
00:32:22,258 --> 00:32:25,738
There is a national conference that takes place at the end of

597
00:32:25,817 --> 00:32:29,658
October, and I invite all board members to travel to

598
00:32:29,718 --> 00:32:32,258
that, not that you're able to, but to be aware of it.

599
00:32:32,798 --> 00:32:36,797
I will be going, and as a new board member, if you're free to go, and I'll be

600
00:32:36,878 --> 00:32:38,568
sure that you receive the information,

601
00:32:39,838 --> 00:32:41,438
you would find it very informative.

602
00:32:41,698 --> 00:32:45,387
One, the ability to meet other board members from across the states,

603
00:32:45,478 --> 00:32:48,498
understand their structures, their challenges,

604
00:32:48,578 --> 00:32:52,458
and just making those relationships, but

605
00:32:52,478 --> 00:32:56,378
then also learn about key initiatives that are happening in education

606
00:32:56,818 --> 00:32:57,518
around the country.

607
00:32:58,398 --> 00:33:02,098
So, I will also make sure that you've been added to the mailing

608
00:33:02,158 --> 00:33:06,148
list so that you're aware of whenever phone calls, or they have a monthly

609
00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:10,107
exchange, as I mentioned, where all the states come together and give updates,

610
00:33:10,158 --> 00:33:14,018
and it's very informative. And from the June exchange, I would

611
00:33:14,078 --> 00:33:17,078
like to share just two key updates that

612
00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:21,418
the state of Illinois has just released their comprehensive

613
00:33:21,518 --> 00:33:25,218
numeracy plan. I know that has been an important focus of

614
00:33:25,278 --> 00:33:27,978
our department here. And

615
00:33:28,878 --> 00:33:32,498
so that is now available. It is modeled after their literacy

616
00:33:32,618 --> 00:33:36,498
plan that was released in 2024. Of course, we've

617
00:33:36,538 --> 00:33:39,518
had a literacy plan in place for a few years longer than that.

618
00:33:39,558 --> 00:33:43,498
But I have not yet reviewed the numeracy plan,

619
00:33:43,578 --> 00:33:44,638
but I've

620
00:33:46,078 --> 00:33:49,508
in fact forwarded it over to Lisa Sereno, so she is aware of it,

621
00:33:50,118 --> 00:33:52,918
and I encourage the department to be taking a look at that.

622
00:33:54,258 --> 00:33:57,138
Secondly, Indiana is adjusting their

623
00:33:57,678 --> 00:34:01,598
accountability model. Now, all states have different accountability models,

624
00:34:01,638 --> 00:34:04,318
so don't be confused with this update.

625
00:34:04,438 --> 00:34:08,058
How they view an accountability model is

626
00:34:08,098 --> 00:34:11,658
based on that A through F grade card approach.

627
00:34:11,738 --> 00:34:15,178
That is not where our accountability model is today.

628
00:34:15,638 --> 00:34:18,178
Our accountability model is based on

629
00:34:18,538 --> 00:34:22,158
the APR, the annual performance

630
00:34:22,258 --> 00:34:23,228
rating that is

631
00:34:24,098 --> 00:34:25,638
for all districts.

632
00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:30,718
However, in Indiana, they're making adjustments to their A through F model

633
00:34:31,319 --> 00:34:35,078
to begin to incorporate just a few things beyond, I

634
00:34:35,158 --> 00:34:38,958
think in one way, where we have our A through F,

635
00:34:39,118 --> 00:34:40,638
and we'll learn more about that in August.

636
00:34:40,658 --> 00:34:43,458
But one key point that they're doing is they're going to

637
00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,919
be scoring it at the individual

638
00:34:46,928 --> 00:34:47,868
student level,

639
00:34:48,758 --> 00:34:52,198
and the accumulation of the student scores

640
00:34:52,938 --> 00:34:56,558
will become the school score. Where

641
00:34:56,698 --> 00:34:57,018
in

642
00:34:57,898 --> 00:35:01,648
the initial model, and possibly in our model, it is starting out, and we'll

643
00:35:01,678 --> 00:35:05,428
again learn more about it, so I could be speaking incorrectly, where it is based on

644
00:35:05,458 --> 00:35:07,778
an average of the school score,

645
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:11,438
not built at the individual student level.

646
00:35:11,538 --> 00:35:14,978
So, as Tracy said earlier, there's a lot of technical

647
00:35:15,498 --> 00:35:19,458
things to understand here. So, I encourage you,

648
00:35:19,598 --> 00:35:21,858
Stacy, to become familiar with the Indiana model.

649
00:35:21,958 --> 00:35:25,408
Not that it will change ours at this moment in time, because

650
00:35:25,418 --> 00:35:29,078
we're ready to submit our plan, but to be aware of what's happening in all the

651
00:35:29,138 --> 00:35:31,098
other states, so as we learn and evolve

652
00:35:32,538 --> 00:35:36,158
with the implementation of the A through F, it might guide us in the future.

653
00:35:37,278 --> 00:35:39,998
The next meeting will be on August 3rd.

654
00:35:40,618 --> 00:35:43,498
I will make sure, again, that you're made aware of it if you would like to join

655
00:35:43,578 --> 00:35:45,498
that in a Zoom meeting.

656
00:35:46,518 --> 00:35:47,398
And that's the update.

657
00:35:47,678 --> 00:35:51,338
Great. Thank you for that, Mrs. Casey. Appreciate it. Hey, one question.

658
00:35:52,238 --> 00:35:52,818
Do we have

659
00:35:53,738 --> 00:35:57,298
the conference this summer with school administrators that we had last

660
00:35:57,318 --> 00:35:58,398
summer?

661
00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:02,158
Yes. I would probably let

662
00:36:02,298 --> 00:36:04,908
someone else speak more to where the planning is for that-

663
00:36:05,058 --> 00:36:05,698
Yeah. I think-

664
00:36:05,768 --> 00:36:06,768
... but it is carrying on.

665
00:36:06,858 --> 00:36:09,978
Okay. I was able to attend it last year, and I would

666
00:36:10,038 --> 00:36:13,878
encourage members of the board, if they had time, to sit in on

667
00:36:13,938 --> 00:36:17,868
some of the classes, or could attend and sit in on some of the classes, because I

668
00:36:17,878 --> 00:36:19,378
thought it was relevant.

669
00:36:20,162 --> 00:36:21,522
Yeah, I was just going to ask about that.

670
00:36:21,582 --> 00:36:25,212
I'm looking at online, it's July 26th through the 28th at

671
00:36:25,242 --> 00:36:26,972
Tan-Tar-A. Is that right? Yeah

672
00:36:27,002 --> 00:36:30,222
That is correct. It's July... Yeah, Kyle Kruse, deputy commissioner of Financial

673
00:36:30,262 --> 00:36:34,242
Administrative Services. It's July 26th, 27th, and 28th at

674
00:36:34,502 --> 00:36:38,442
Margaritaville Tan-Tar-A. The Sunday night session is largely a

675
00:36:38,462 --> 00:36:39,442
commissioner's welcome.

676
00:36:40,362 --> 00:36:42,882
Monday is the day when we have the general session.

677
00:36:43,122 --> 00:36:47,102
We have a keynote speaker, Ed Hightower, who actually is a former NCAA

678
00:36:47,162 --> 00:36:51,122
official and a school person. And then we have breakout sessions

679
00:36:51,202 --> 00:36:53,662
throughout the morning on a variety of topics.

680
00:36:54,222 --> 00:36:58,162
We have the Pioneers Luncheon to recognize our heroes in

681
00:36:58,222 --> 00:37:02,042
education, and then more breakout sessions in the afternoon, followed

682
00:37:02,102 --> 00:37:06,022
by a new superintendent's recognition in the evening

683
00:37:06,102 --> 00:37:09,702
on Monday. And the breakout sessions right now are set up, I think

684
00:37:09,742 --> 00:37:13,722
there's five different slots and

685
00:37:14,662 --> 00:37:18,482
four different sessions going on in each

686
00:37:18,522 --> 00:37:21,042
slot. So, it's a good variety of...

687
00:37:21,102 --> 00:37:24,942
I think we have 19 topics total, and a couple are being repeated.

688
00:37:25,382 --> 00:37:28,822
So, they'd be great, and I know everyone will be glad to see the state board there

689
00:37:28,882 --> 00:37:31,262
representing and supporting public education.

690
00:37:32,002 --> 00:37:32,862
The end

691
00:37:33,942 --> 00:37:36,922
morning is Tuesday, and there will be a

692
00:37:38,522 --> 00:37:41,802
guest speaker. Our superintendent of the year, I believe, is scheduled to be there.

693
00:37:41,842 --> 00:37:45,582
I'm double-checking that. I'll give a school finance update,

694
00:37:45,882 --> 00:37:47,302
and the commissioner will close us out.

695
00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:50,022
But we'd be glad to have you in attendance for any or all.

696
00:37:51,382 --> 00:37:55,002
And Dr. Kruse, we're close to finalizing that agenda, correct?

697
00:37:55,042 --> 00:37:55,272
And having all-

698
00:37:55,282 --> 00:37:56,002
We are very close

699
00:37:56,082 --> 00:37:56,322
... those in place-

700
00:37:56,332 --> 00:37:56,332
Yes

701
00:37:56,332 --> 00:37:58,302
... so we could send out the final agenda.

702
00:37:58,362 --> 00:38:01,562
Yes. What we're doing right now is finishing the titles and descriptions of each

703
00:38:01,602 --> 00:38:03,322
session, all the breakout sessions.

704
00:38:03,842 --> 00:38:06,922
We hope to have that done in the next week and a half, and we can provide that to

705
00:38:06,982 --> 00:38:07,082
you.

706
00:38:07,872 --> 00:38:08,162
Perfect.

707
00:38:08,272 --> 00:38:11,972
Thank you. Appreciate that. Last year, do you know what your attendance was

708
00:38:12,042 --> 00:38:12,852
last year from...

709
00:38:14,342 --> 00:38:16,762
Sorry to make you say, but it was well attended, I imagine.

710
00:38:16,802 --> 00:38:18,202
It is well attended, right.

711
00:38:19,082 --> 00:38:21,942
If I had to ballpark it, we're in the 500 and some person range.

712
00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:22,842
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

713
00:38:24,142 --> 00:38:27,842
So if you have time and could get up there, I think it would be an important

714
00:38:28,942 --> 00:38:31,142
or valuable resource of learning.

715
00:38:32,062 --> 00:38:35,082
So at this time, we have the consent agenda.

716
00:38:36,162 --> 00:38:39,202
Are there any items on the consent agenda requiring discussion?

717
00:38:40,042 --> 00:38:41,042
Move to approve consent.

718
00:38:41,602 --> 00:38:41,902
Second.

719
00:38:42,262 --> 00:38:42,562
Okay.

720
00:38:43,442 --> 00:38:45,902
Thank you, Mr. Matousek and Mrs. Casey.

721
00:38:46,242 --> 00:38:48,962
All those in favor of approving the consent agenda say, "Aye."

722
00:38:49,382 --> 00:38:49,542
Aye.

723
00:38:49,662 --> 00:38:50,122
Aye.

724
00:38:50,742 --> 00:38:52,862
Any opposed? Hearing none,

725
00:38:53,942 --> 00:38:55,762
we'll turn it over now to

726
00:38:56,802 --> 00:39:00,622
Dr. Paul Katnik. I think he's got several items that he's going to present today,

727
00:39:00,722 --> 00:39:04,602
and I welcome him to the board, to the discussion.

728
00:39:15,282 --> 00:39:17,022
Mr. President, members of the board, good morning.

729
00:39:18,702 --> 00:39:22,062
As you pointed out, I have several items for you coming up next.

730
00:39:22,862 --> 00:39:26,622
First time, I am Paul Katnik. I am the head of the Office of Educator

731
00:39:26,722 --> 00:39:30,442
Quality here at DESE. Our next seven items are about rules.

732
00:39:31,242 --> 00:39:34,422
But before we get into each of those, I wanted to provide a brief

733
00:39:34,562 --> 00:39:38,042
overview about both the purpose and the process for

734
00:39:38,142 --> 00:39:42,082
rulemaking. Missouri statute often explicitly states

735
00:39:42,102 --> 00:39:45,622
that the State Board of Education shall promulgate rules in

736
00:39:45,642 --> 00:39:49,002
particular areas or to address particular needs.

737
00:39:49,662 --> 00:39:53,632
In these upcoming agenda items, we'll be talking about standards for the mentoring

738
00:39:53,662 --> 00:39:57,572
of new teachers, because Missouri law says those standards should

739
00:39:57,582 --> 00:40:01,422
be established by the State Board of Education, and we do that by

740
00:40:01,462 --> 00:40:05,262
creating these rules. Your other agenda items are about certification

741
00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:09,202
requirements for educators, which Missouri statute says are set

742
00:40:09,242 --> 00:40:13,122
by the State Board of Education, and we, again, we establish

743
00:40:13,162 --> 00:40:17,122
those requirements and rules. All rules like this require approval

744
00:40:17,162 --> 00:40:20,642
from you as board members to ensure that we are compliant with Missouri law.

745
00:40:21,902 --> 00:40:24,162
This handout, which I believe all of you have received,

746
00:40:25,342 --> 00:40:27,982
is the process for getting rules revised and approved.

747
00:40:28,042 --> 00:40:31,502
Usually, preparing for this process that we go through with all of you

748
00:40:31,562 --> 00:40:35,282
takes a year or more. For our certification rules today, it actually has

749
00:40:35,322 --> 00:40:39,172
taken two years, and the reason for that is because it includes efforts

750
00:40:39,222 --> 00:40:42,542
of work groups of educators, of higher education, professional

751
00:40:42,662 --> 00:40:46,322
organizations, and stakeholders who determine what changes or

752
00:40:46,342 --> 00:40:50,142
additions should be made to a set of standards or requirements.

753
00:40:50,842 --> 00:40:54,662
This preparation phase also includes the involvement of two

754
00:40:54,822 --> 00:40:57,162
statutorily required advisory groups.

755
00:40:57,702 --> 00:41:01,512
One is the Missouri Advisory Council for Certification of Educators,

756
00:41:01,622 --> 00:41:05,592
we call that MACCE for short, and the other is the Missouri Advisory

757
00:41:05,702 --> 00:41:08,102
Board for Educator Preparation, called MABEP.

758
00:41:08,882 --> 00:41:12,802
These two advisory groups were created by statute to ensure that there is

759
00:41:12,842 --> 00:41:16,602
sufficient stakeholder input and involvement before we bring any

760
00:41:16,662 --> 00:41:20,562
recommended changes to you. In the upcoming items, you will hear us

761
00:41:20,602 --> 00:41:24,492
report on the extent of support from MACCE and from MABEP on our

762
00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:28,482
items. Once we have all that ready, this process begins, and

763
00:41:28,522 --> 00:41:31,542
it can take anywhere from eight to 12 months to fully complete.

764
00:41:31,962 --> 00:41:35,802
So, I'm just going to walk you through some of these steps that are contained here

765
00:41:35,842 --> 00:41:39,582
in the graphic. The governor's office first gets time to review the

766
00:41:39,642 --> 00:41:41,922
proposed changes. They can take up to a month.

767
00:41:42,332 --> 00:41:46,222
And while that review is happening, we are also routing the rule and any of

768
00:41:46,262 --> 00:41:49,902
its supporting documents through our department leadership, and

769
00:41:49,982 --> 00:41:53,792
also through the legal counsel, and we are submitting rules and supporting

770
00:41:53,842 --> 00:41:57,702
documents to the DESE rules team. We also often

771
00:41:57,722 --> 00:42:01,302
provide an information presentation to the State Board of Education to

772
00:42:01,402 --> 00:42:04,962
introduce the issue and forecast the upcoming changes.

773
00:42:05,482 --> 00:42:08,622
However, at that presentation, there is no vote from you at that time.

774
00:42:08,902 --> 00:42:10,702
We're just building your awareness around it.

775
00:42:11,322 --> 00:42:14,762
We did a March presentation for all of you board members and a May

776
00:42:14,822 --> 00:42:16,842
presentation on our upcoming items.

777
00:42:17,862 --> 00:42:20,832
At the next meeting, which is today's meeting, the State Board of Education will

778
00:42:20,882 --> 00:42:24,612
get an overview of the rule, including why the change is being made,

779
00:42:25,082 --> 00:42:28,646
who assisted in the work group The support of MACIE and MABEP and

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implications for the revised version.

781
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Then we'll be asking you as a board today to authorize publication in the Missouri

782
00:42:35,226 --> 00:42:39,126
Register, which allows us to post it for a required 30-day public

783
00:42:39,246 --> 00:42:40,086
comment period.

784
00:42:41,046 --> 00:42:45,026
Step three, then it's filed by Secretary of State and the Joint Committee on

785
00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:48,446
Administrative Rules. That usually takes about a month.

786
00:42:48,886 --> 00:42:52,606
It is then published, step four, in the Missouri Register, which

787
00:42:53,306 --> 00:42:56,806
contains all of the published rules, and it allows for a

788
00:42:56,866 --> 00:42:59,776
statutorily required public comment of 30 days.

789
00:43:00,566 --> 00:43:04,416
Our goal with rules that we bring to you is to get no public

790
00:43:04,446 --> 00:43:08,366
comment, and that's because we're hoping we've done our homework well enough ahead

791
00:43:08,406 --> 00:43:12,366
of time, that we've discussed it, everyone knows about it, and if there were any

792
00:43:12,426 --> 00:43:16,386
issues, we've addressed those even before we bring it to you.

793
00:43:16,546 --> 00:43:19,926
Step five, after public comment, we have three months to get it back to the State

794
00:43:20,026 --> 00:43:23,886
Board of Education, or we have to start this entire process

795
00:43:24,006 --> 00:43:27,906
all over again. This is to ensure that the rule is being changed, has

796
00:43:27,966 --> 00:43:30,026
current approval, and current support.

797
00:43:31,085 --> 00:43:34,896
Then at step six, there's a second presentation to the State Board of

798
00:43:34,986 --> 00:43:38,866
Education, and at that presentation, you'll hear a summary of

799
00:43:39,006 --> 00:43:42,646
all of the comments that we've received, and a

800
00:43:42,706 --> 00:43:46,626
response on whether a change will be made, and if so, why or why not.

801
00:43:47,206 --> 00:43:50,686
For these upcoming rules today, we will anticipate a second

802
00:43:50,706 --> 00:43:52,906
presentation being made to you in September.

803
00:43:53,686 --> 00:43:57,666
Final approval of the rule then gets requested from you at that meeting.

804
00:43:58,426 --> 00:44:01,166
If you approve, it's then filed with the Joint Committee on

805
00:44:01,926 --> 00:44:05,156
Administrative Rules in its finalized form for their

806
00:44:05,166 --> 00:44:09,066
review, which is mostly a technical review of edits

807
00:44:09,126 --> 00:44:12,746
to be sure it's internally consistent and also consistent with other

808
00:44:12,786 --> 00:44:16,656
rules. It is then filed with the Secretary of State's office,

809
00:44:16,666 --> 00:44:19,226
which manages the government rule process.

810
00:44:19,886 --> 00:44:23,866
If approved there, down to step nine, they are now posted in the Missouri Register

811
00:44:23,906 --> 00:44:27,226
with all other rules, and then the full text of the rule, step

812
00:44:27,326 --> 00:44:31,166
10, is published in the Code of State Regulations, which is home

813
00:44:31,206 --> 00:44:34,826
to all the rules. And then step 11 is the effective date.

814
00:44:35,306 --> 00:44:38,986
In some instances, rules that we bring before you, one of them today, it'll be

815
00:44:39,026 --> 00:44:42,396
effective immediately. But in other ones, when we have to allow time for

816
00:44:42,526 --> 00:44:46,326
structures to kind of change and adapt, it may be a year or two

817
00:44:46,366 --> 00:44:48,386
down the road before it actually becomes effective.

818
00:44:49,906 --> 00:44:53,886
So now that we reviewed why and how the rule-making happens,

819
00:44:54,526 --> 00:44:58,506
we'll begin with agenda item F, which is on our

820
00:44:58,866 --> 00:44:59,766
mentoring standards.

821
00:45:01,466 --> 00:45:04,866
I am joined by Dr. Bobbi Jo Lewis. She's in my office.

822
00:45:04,926 --> 00:45:08,366
She's the coordinator of educator development in our office

823
00:45:08,426 --> 00:45:12,246
here. Among other responsibilities, she coordinates

824
00:45:12,306 --> 00:45:15,386
the Missouri Teacher Development System, what we call the

825
00:45:15,486 --> 00:45:19,346
MTDS. This program provides intensive support to

826
00:45:19,386 --> 00:45:22,986
thousands of teachers across the state. Many of them are new teachers.

827
00:45:23,786 --> 00:45:24,806
Missouri Statute

828
00:45:25,906 --> 00:45:29,706
161.375, it states that the department shall develop

829
00:45:29,746 --> 00:45:33,126
standards for high-quality mentoring programs for beginning teachers.

830
00:45:33,755 --> 00:45:37,486
The standards shall be applicable to all public schools and shall be developed to

831
00:45:37,506 --> 00:45:41,306
ensure that required district mentor programs all meet

832
00:45:41,386 --> 00:45:45,326
common objectives. Subsection three of that law states that

833
00:45:45,366 --> 00:45:49,086
the board shall require holders of the four-year initial professional

834
00:45:49,146 --> 00:45:52,966
certificate to participate in a mentor program approved

835
00:45:53,226 --> 00:45:55,766
and provided by the district for two years.

836
00:45:56,246 --> 00:45:59,236
And this is applicable to every area of certification.

837
00:45:59,286 --> 00:46:01,106
Doesn't matter what kind of a teacher that you are.

838
00:46:02,006 --> 00:46:05,726
Research tells us, there's a lot of studies on this, that high-quality mentoring

839
00:46:06,106 --> 00:46:08,226
is essential for retaining new teachers.

840
00:46:08,826 --> 00:46:12,806
Numerous studies show us that teachers who receive high-quality support in

841
00:46:12,826 --> 00:46:16,706
the early years of their career remain in our profession longer.

842
00:46:17,346 --> 00:46:21,126
Improving teacher retention has been an essential focus of

843
00:46:21,206 --> 00:46:25,166
our department for the past six years, and it's also a priority area for

844
00:46:25,186 --> 00:46:27,406
the department's strategic plan. Thank you.

845
00:46:29,046 --> 00:46:32,516
We shared this slide with you last month in May when we did our information

846
00:46:32,586 --> 00:46:35,376
meeting, and we're just sharing it here again today as a reminder.

847
00:46:35,986 --> 00:46:39,846
Missouri has had over 7,700 beginning teachers

848
00:46:39,906 --> 00:46:43,785
enter the classroom. These new teachers influence the learning of well

849
00:46:43,846 --> 00:46:47,526
over 150,000 students. The retention rate of

850
00:46:47,566 --> 00:46:49,166
beginning teachers, which is the

851
00:46:50,106 --> 00:46:54,086
green line down there at the bottom, is the lowest category of retention when

852
00:46:54,126 --> 00:46:55,886
compared to other groups of teachers.

853
00:46:56,666 --> 00:47:00,426
The data shown here confirms why emphasizing high-quality

854
00:47:00,486 --> 00:47:04,476
mentoring is so important. Retention rates of first-year teachers, while

855
00:47:04,526 --> 00:47:08,246
improving in the last year or so, shows a steady decline over the

856
00:47:08,286 --> 00:47:11,886
past six years. This occurs for a variety of reasons.

857
00:47:11,946 --> 00:47:15,866
In exit surveys, the number one reason first-year teachers leave the

858
00:47:15,906 --> 00:47:19,166
profession, they tell us, is due to lack of support.

859
00:47:19,846 --> 00:47:22,386
Support for new teachers can come in a variety of ways.

860
00:47:22,446 --> 00:47:26,346
High-quality mentoring as a part of teacher induction helps support

861
00:47:26,386 --> 00:47:27,426
those new teachers.

862
00:47:28,226 --> 00:47:31,606
I'll now ask Dr. Lewis to describe the process and the changes we

863
00:47:31,626 --> 00:47:34,716
propose to be made to the state's mentor standards.

864
00:47:36,666 --> 00:47:38,426
Good morning. It's a pleasure to be here today.

865
00:47:39,406 --> 00:47:43,386
Stakeholder input is key to ensuring that any changes to rules that we

866
00:47:43,426 --> 00:47:45,526
propose will be good for the overall profession.

867
00:47:46,346 --> 00:47:50,166
A work group consisting of a variety of stakeholders met regularly for almost two

868
00:47:50,206 --> 00:47:53,666
years to create the proposed revisions to the mentor standards.

869
00:47:53,696 --> 00:47:57,426
The teacher organizations met with their members and brought back valuable feedback

870
00:47:57,446 --> 00:47:59,986
that was considered when these revisions were drafted.

871
00:48:00,686 --> 00:48:04,126
The revisions were approved unanimously by this work group, and there's a list of

872
00:48:04,166 --> 00:48:07,446
the work group members here on this slide.

873
00:48:07,456 --> 00:48:10,256
They were presented to the Missouri Advisory Council for Certification of

874
00:48:10,306 --> 00:48:11,316
Educators, MACIE.

875
00:48:12,726 --> 00:48:16,546
The advisory council is required by statute to review proposed changes to

876
00:48:16,566 --> 00:48:18,646
certification before they are presented to you.

877
00:48:19,146 --> 00:48:23,036
We presented these changes in their April meeting, and they voted unanimously in

878
00:48:23,126 --> 00:48:24,685
favor of the proposed revisions.

879
00:48:27,206 --> 00:48:31,166
This slide contains a link and a QR code that will take you to the current mentor

880
00:48:31,206 --> 00:48:35,166
guidelines. You can also access the new proposed mentor guidelines here

881
00:48:35,206 --> 00:48:35,486
as well.

882
00:48:37,796 --> 00:48:39,976
This next slide is a

883
00:48:41,256 --> 00:48:44,896
overview, highlights of the current mentor guidelines and the

884
00:48:44,956 --> 00:48:45,855
proposed changes.

885
00:48:47,036 --> 00:48:50,106
The current mentoring program standards were adopted by the Missouri State Board of

886
00:48:50,156 --> 00:48:54,126
Education in February of 2017. Since that time, there have

887
00:48:54,136 --> 00:48:57,916
been significant challenges in the recruitment and retention of beginning teachers.

888
00:48:58,496 --> 00:49:02,256
The current format is confusing and it's difficult to read.

889
00:49:02,286 --> 00:49:04,766
There are no clear definitions, and the phrases are outdated

890
00:49:05,656 --> 00:49:07,396
and no longer relevant in some cases.

891
00:49:08,006 --> 00:49:11,856
The current standards do not provide clear expectations of contact hours and do

892
00:49:11,896 --> 00:49:14,756
not clearly explain what it means for support to be ongoing.

893
00:49:15,516 --> 00:49:17,136
So as you take a look at this

894
00:49:18,696 --> 00:49:22,536
table, it shows the areas of the differences, it shows what the

895
00:49:22,576 --> 00:49:25,306
current guidelines show, and then the new proposed guidelines.

896
00:49:25,936 --> 00:49:29,226
So in the new guidelines, we're looking at clearly defining the Beginning Teacher

897
00:49:29,256 --> 00:49:32,836
Assistance Program, that's BTAP. You know there's lots of acronyms in education.

898
00:49:34,116 --> 00:49:37,796
What contact hours looks like. It clearly defines what ongoing looks

899
00:49:37,896 --> 00:49:41,596
like, and talks more about that mentor/mentee and the mentoring

900
00:49:41,655 --> 00:49:45,146
toolbox, and what role is taken place by the Professional Development Committee.

901
00:49:46,396 --> 00:49:50,016
We also take a look at defining more exactly what a mentor should be.

902
00:49:50,376 --> 00:49:54,076
Instead of focusing on a specific number of years, we look more at what they

903
00:49:54,156 --> 00:49:56,396
bring to the table, the experiences that they have.

904
00:49:57,556 --> 00:50:01,286
Those experienced teachers should be willing to attend ongoing professional

905
00:50:01,336 --> 00:50:04,926
development and mentor training so they can become the best mentor possible.

906
00:50:05,976 --> 00:50:09,526
And then school districts and charter schools will be able to ensure that regular

907
00:50:09,556 --> 00:50:11,796
meetings occur between those mentor and mentee.

908
00:50:13,076 --> 00:50:16,836
We also highlight in the new guidelines how confidential this

909
00:50:16,956 --> 00:50:20,576
is. This is not meant to be evaluative of those teachers.

910
00:50:21,196 --> 00:50:24,996
It is very important that this relationship is a back-and-forth

911
00:50:25,076 --> 00:50:28,976
communication and a sharing of experiences and knowledge, and it is not meant to

912
00:50:29,016 --> 00:50:32,526
be evaluative. And so we talk pretty clearly in those

913
00:50:32,596 --> 00:50:36,516
standards that it is not evaluative and that it is confidential except for

914
00:50:36,556 --> 00:50:40,076
in specific cases of individual safety and child endangerment.

915
00:50:41,276 --> 00:50:44,496
We also clarify the stakeholders that are involved in the program,

916
00:50:45,255 --> 00:50:47,456
what it should look like, who should be involved.

917
00:50:48,216 --> 00:50:51,876
It does retain the four release periods and the four observations, but it very

918
00:50:51,936 --> 00:50:55,776
clearly recommends the number of contact hours and how that should be broken down

919
00:50:56,376 --> 00:50:57,076
throughout the year.

920
00:51:00,676 --> 00:51:04,296
This slide contains a link and a QR code to the existing

921
00:51:04,336 --> 00:51:07,696
Appendix A. This is a companion document to the mentoring

922
00:51:07,756 --> 00:51:11,556
standards, and it also, as you can see, has the link and the QR

923
00:51:11,676 --> 00:51:13,156
code if you would like to look at the full

924
00:51:13,176 --> 00:51:15,696
document.

925
00:51:16,736 --> 00:51:20,076
This slide highlights the differences between the existing information in Appendix

926
00:51:20,176 --> 00:51:23,116
A and the new information that we're proposing for the new Appendix A.

927
00:51:23,796 --> 00:51:27,416
Appendix A of the state's mentoring standards was also officially adopted by the

928
00:51:27,456 --> 00:51:31,325
State Board in 2017. While Appendix A was meant to serve as

929
00:51:31,456 --> 00:51:35,196
a tool and provide clarity, districts found the topics to be overly

930
00:51:35,276 --> 00:51:37,456
broad and confusing and difficult to implement.

931
00:51:37,976 --> 00:51:41,746
Appendix A currently includes a matrix of roles of multiple stakeholders that are

932
00:51:41,796 --> 00:51:45,596
no longer relevant. Overall, the document is not user-friendly, and it does

933
00:51:45,605 --> 00:51:48,976
not have a formal way to track any of the fields.

934
00:51:49,036 --> 00:51:52,605
So this is also a table that shows an overview of

935
00:51:52,636 --> 00:51:55,656
the old Appendix A and the new proposed Appendix A.

936
00:51:56,396 --> 00:51:59,656
We really looked at simplifying it, making it user-friendly.

937
00:51:59,856 --> 00:52:02,296
That was the number one complaint that I received from districts.

938
00:52:02,756 --> 00:52:06,636
And so we looked at really making this form to be something that they can

939
00:52:06,736 --> 00:52:07,096
use.

940
00:52:07,996 --> 00:52:11,796
We narrowed down the scope. We got rid of external

941
00:52:11,976 --> 00:52:15,696
stakeholders, really focused on that relationship between the district, the

942
00:52:15,716 --> 00:52:18,316
administrator, the mentor, and the mentee teachers.

943
00:52:18,816 --> 00:52:22,536
We included logs, signatures, dated records for usage.

944
00:52:23,536 --> 00:52:27,276
Really looked at trying to make the different sections clearly

945
00:52:27,316 --> 00:52:30,956
identifiable so they could have a clear understanding of what is expected from each

946
00:52:31,036 --> 00:52:34,516
role. And we also turned it into an action-oriented checklist

947
00:52:34,936 --> 00:52:35,816
instead of

948
00:52:36,716 --> 00:52:39,116
a chart that was difficult for them to read.

949
00:52:43,176 --> 00:52:46,786
I often receive questions from districts searching for tools and other

950
00:52:46,856 --> 00:52:49,376
items that would help them with their existing mentoring programs.

951
00:52:50,096 --> 00:52:54,066
A lot of districts lack the resources or capacity to create

952
00:52:54,135 --> 00:52:56,236
items that can be easily accessed and used.

953
00:52:56,936 --> 00:53:00,796
Based on this feedback, I'm very excited to share with you the mentoring toolbox.

954
00:53:01,176 --> 00:53:04,486
This is a compilation of tools that districts can use to help strengthen their

955
00:53:04,496 --> 00:53:07,316
mentoring programs. The toolbox will be available,

956
00:53:08,336 --> 00:53:10,836
I hope by August 15th when school starts.

957
00:53:11,076 --> 00:53:11,156
But

958
00:53:12,016 --> 00:53:13,416
all districts in Missouri can use it.

959
00:53:14,216 --> 00:53:17,176
There is a link embedded here that will take you to the tools, or you can use the

960
00:53:17,316 --> 00:53:21,176
QR code. But basically, these are things that they can use, and they

961
00:53:21,196 --> 00:53:23,096
can easily adapt to their own district.

962
00:53:23,996 --> 00:53:27,176
It really helps them with some clearly

963
00:53:27,216 --> 00:53:31,116
defined agreements between the mentors and the mentees, what those

964
00:53:31,156 --> 00:53:35,106
roles look like, and really just helps lay out an entire mentoring

965
00:53:35,176 --> 00:53:37,076
program for the district if they choose to use it.

966
00:53:37,496 --> 00:53:40,756
Again, it is by choice, but it is available for those districts that would like to

967
00:53:40,796 --> 00:53:41,076
use it.

968
00:53:45,736 --> 00:53:49,376
So, item F on your agenda. We now, with that

969
00:53:49,416 --> 00:53:53,396
information in front of you, recommend that you authorize publication of

970
00:53:53,436 --> 00:53:54,616
these new standards,

971
00:53:55,476 --> 00:53:57,416
and that will allow us to put it out for public comment.

972
00:53:58,916 --> 00:53:59,416
So moved.

973
00:54:00,336 --> 00:54:01,076
Is there a second?

974
00:54:01,696 --> 00:54:02,076
Second.

975
00:54:02,766 --> 00:54:06,536
We have a second. This is Westbrook Hodge. Now, can you take some questions?

976
00:54:07,276 --> 00:54:08,676
Yes, please.

977
00:54:09,216 --> 00:54:13,196
I have maybe a couple questions. Does every school district

978
00:54:13,256 --> 00:54:15,116
in the state of Missouri have a mentoring program?

979
00:54:16,216 --> 00:54:20,096
Every school district has to mentor their new teachers. That's a requirement.

980
00:54:20,256 --> 00:54:21,176
That is a requirement.

981
00:54:21,416 --> 00:54:25,256
Right. And so this toolbox is to give them the tools to help them do it

982
00:54:25,296 --> 00:54:25,536
well.

983
00:54:25,736 --> 00:54:27,636
Is there a fiscal note with it or anything?

984
00:54:29,016 --> 00:54:29,176
No.

985
00:54:30,076 --> 00:54:31,276
They're just required to do it.

986
00:54:31,636 --> 00:54:32,016
Correct.

987
00:54:34,816 --> 00:54:36,086
It's interesting to me that

988
00:54:37,848 --> 00:54:41,448
If you were superintendent and were dealing with teachers leaving and

989
00:54:41,528 --> 00:54:43,028
things of that nature,

990
00:54:43,848 --> 00:54:44,048
that

991
00:54:45,128 --> 00:54:48,948
we're kind of micro telling them what they need to be doing to keep

992
00:54:49,028 --> 00:54:49,488
teachers.

993
00:54:51,088 --> 00:54:52,768
It's just strange to me

994
00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:54,688
how we

995
00:54:55,808 --> 00:54:57,948
take on this responsibility of mentoring,

996
00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:03,788
when really it should be taken on by leadership. That's my opinion.

997
00:55:03,828 --> 00:55:04,108
Yeah.

998
00:55:04,128 --> 00:55:04,158
And I appreciate-

999
00:55:04,158 --> 00:55:08,068
The actual requirement is that new teachers be mentored for a

1000
00:55:08,088 --> 00:55:11,008
period of two years, and that it be provided by the district.

1001
00:55:11,708 --> 00:55:14,728
What this represents is a resource that you can use.

1002
00:55:15,168 --> 00:55:19,128
We don't make them use the toolbox, but we have it available to them if they'd like

1003
00:55:19,188 --> 00:55:23,048
to. And based on the feedback we get, a lot of districts would like the

1004
00:55:23,108 --> 00:55:26,688
extra resources to help them do a better job at it because they know

1005
00:55:26,728 --> 00:55:30,008
retention, especially of early career teachers, is tied so

1006
00:55:30,048 --> 00:55:33,468
closely to how they support them in the early years of their career.

1007
00:55:35,148 --> 00:55:35,468
Okay.

1008
00:55:36,428 --> 00:55:37,188
Any other questions?

1009
00:55:38,048 --> 00:55:38,568
Mrs. Casey.

1010
00:55:38,608 --> 00:55:38,868
Thank you.

1011
00:55:40,328 --> 00:55:43,288
Dr. Kantnik and Bobby, thank you so much for the update.

1012
00:55:43,368 --> 00:55:44,548
Do you

1013
00:55:45,408 --> 00:55:49,288
ever go out and assess the mentoring programs that are

1014
00:55:49,328 --> 00:55:53,268
in place, and look for best practices across the different districts, and

1015
00:55:53,328 --> 00:55:57,308
have a method for districts to come together to share best

1016
00:55:57,348 --> 00:55:57,918
practices?

1017
00:56:00,268 --> 00:56:04,008
So I do actually travel the state as my role, when

1018
00:56:04,288 --> 00:56:07,058
I look at programs for Missouri Teacher Development System.

1019
00:56:07,948 --> 00:56:10,108
So I do have a chance to talk to administrators and teachers.

1020
00:56:10,148 --> 00:56:14,028
And so while it's not an evaluative process of their programs, I

1021
00:56:14,088 --> 00:56:17,868
do talk to people in all the regions, and I bring that information back.

1022
00:56:18,088 --> 00:56:21,718
And then we also had other individuals from stakeholders around the state involved

1023
00:56:21,748 --> 00:56:25,208
in the work group that worked on this mentoring program, mentoring standards.

1024
00:56:25,828 --> 00:56:28,048
But I do not do an assessment of that, no.

1025
00:56:28,848 --> 00:56:29,968
And do we have,

1026
00:56:31,968 --> 00:56:35,488
specifically an ability to tie data back

1027
00:56:35,588 --> 00:56:39,368
to the mentors and their... And maybe that is a point you covered

1028
00:56:39,388 --> 00:56:43,048
earlier in the data on the success of the mentoring

1029
00:56:43,148 --> 00:56:45,988
programs and their likelihood of staying longer and

1030
00:56:46,608 --> 00:56:50,348
their effectiveness in the classroom, tying it back to

1031
00:56:50,828 --> 00:56:53,628
that cohort of then academic outcomes.

1032
00:56:54,548 --> 00:56:57,668
Yeah. That's the retention data that we shared with you previously.

1033
00:56:57,738 --> 00:56:57,738
Okay. Yeah.

1034
00:56:57,768 --> 00:57:01,148
So we're able to follow cohorts of new teachers. Dr.

1035
00:57:01,408 --> 00:57:04,808
Lewis a couple of years ago updated the Beginning Teacher Assistance Program

1036
00:57:04,928 --> 00:57:08,668
standards. And about that time, we saw an uptick in

1037
00:57:08,688 --> 00:57:12,628
retention rates. So we think we can attribute some of that

1038
00:57:12,648 --> 00:57:16,528
to us doing a better job of supporting new teachers, which happens through the

1039
00:57:16,568 --> 00:57:19,238
Beginning Teacher Assistance Program and through these standards that were-

1040
00:57:19,288 --> 00:57:22,998
But it's not directly tied by knowing they followed

1041
00:57:23,048 --> 00:57:26,678
this methodology and therefore these are the outcomes as opposed to other

1042
00:57:27,628 --> 00:57:29,168
methodologies in their mentoring.

1043
00:57:29,408 --> 00:57:33,268
Right. And I think that's respecting what President Brooks-Miller was

1044
00:57:33,288 --> 00:57:36,848
saying about, it is a district obligation to be sure they're

1045
00:57:36,888 --> 00:57:40,728
mentored. And so we try to provide aggregate data that says how are we

1046
00:57:40,768 --> 00:57:42,908
collectively doing in this area.

1047
00:57:43,438 --> 00:57:46,598
And one final point, just maybe a recommendation that to have

1048
00:57:48,128 --> 00:57:51,868
an annual call or not

1049
00:57:51,908 --> 00:57:55,628
necessarily at our annual conference, but where everybody could participate.

1050
00:57:55,648 --> 00:57:58,528
At the conference, you have to pick and choose what you're going to

1051
00:57:59,128 --> 00:58:02,288
participate in. But some method where schools can come

1052
00:58:02,348 --> 00:58:03,868
together through

1053
00:58:04,968 --> 00:58:07,648
a facilitation by the department to

1054
00:58:08,528 --> 00:58:11,858
understand each other's mentoring programs, share best practices, et cetera.

1055
00:58:11,888 --> 00:58:13,688
In some ways that's kind of happening.

1056
00:58:13,748 --> 00:58:17,588
The Beginning Teacher Assistance Program happens simultaneous to mentoring,

1057
00:58:17,708 --> 00:58:21,328
and Dr. Lewis has trainings that happen all across the

1058
00:58:21,428 --> 00:58:25,168
state for those very same teachers, and that's where she gets the feedback on how

1059
00:58:25,208 --> 00:58:26,088
mentoring is happening.

1060
00:58:26,468 --> 00:58:26,567
Oh.

1061
00:58:26,608 --> 00:58:29,528
We do have a program through MTDS that is for mentors.

1062
00:58:29,608 --> 00:58:31,308
It's the Foundations of Mentoring.

1063
00:58:31,948 --> 00:58:34,948
And so they come from around the state and can participate in those programs in

1064
00:58:34,988 --> 00:58:38,918
their regions, and have a chance to talk to other teachers that are mentors, and

1065
00:58:39,268 --> 00:58:40,208
develop those skills.

1066
00:58:40,728 --> 00:58:43,028
Good. Thank you, Dr. Lewis and Dr. Kantnik.

1067
00:58:43,128 --> 00:58:43,408
Thank you.

1068
00:58:44,148 --> 00:58:45,048
Any other questions?

1069
00:58:45,568 --> 00:58:47,128
I have a question, Dr. Lewis and Dr. Kantnik.

1070
00:58:48,728 --> 00:58:51,228
Will the mentors themselves be required to have a mentor?

1071
00:58:54,028 --> 00:58:55,408
No, that's not a requirement.

1072
00:58:55,488 --> 00:58:55,708
Okay.

1073
00:58:55,888 --> 00:58:59,828
Yeah. It's highly recommended through the standards that they get training,

1074
00:59:00,348 --> 00:59:04,148
and that's where part of what Dr. Lewis offers is

1075
00:59:04,188 --> 00:59:05,428
there's a resource for them.

1076
00:59:05,768 --> 00:59:06,488
Okay. Thank you.

1077
00:59:08,088 --> 00:59:08,708
Mr. Otto.

1078
00:59:09,288 --> 00:59:13,188
Yeah, I have a question. Sorry, it's not really on topic, but there's a slide in

1079
00:59:13,248 --> 00:59:16,348
here about the retention for first year

1080
00:59:16,868 --> 00:59:19,348
teachers. It shows the line-

1081
00:59:19,408 --> 00:59:19,978
Yes. Mm-hmm

1082
00:59:19,988 --> 00:59:23,548
... and everything. So, it's kind of making me have other questions that aren't

1083
00:59:23,588 --> 00:59:26,088
really related to the mentor-mentee program, but,

1084
00:59:27,688 --> 00:59:31,588
I think some information like this or graphics like this on just overall teacher

1085
00:59:31,628 --> 00:59:35,508
retention and historically would be helpful for

1086
00:59:35,588 --> 00:59:38,688
us to know. And like I said, this is off topic, but maybe for the future-

1087
00:59:38,748 --> 00:59:38,758
Yeah

1088
00:59:38,758 --> 00:59:39,228
... if we could-

1089
00:59:40,188 --> 00:59:40,268
We-

1090
00:59:41,008 --> 00:59:44,588
Yeah, there's an annual recruitment and retention report that gets sent to the

1091
00:59:44,628 --> 00:59:48,508
general assembly. It gets sent to you first, and includes

1092
00:59:48,568 --> 00:59:52,148
data just like this, plus additional workforce data, which I think is what you're

1093
00:59:52,188 --> 00:59:52,688
getting at.

1094
00:59:53,628 --> 00:59:57,388
We've done, I think, a pretty good job of tracking workforce data over the

1095
00:59:57,428 --> 01:00:00,768
last several years, and so that's why you're able to see six years of data

1096
01:00:00,868 --> 01:00:04,608
here, because we think the historic trends are really important to watch.

1097
01:00:04,648 --> 01:00:05,928
And so there's a whole report

1098
01:00:06,988 --> 01:00:08,608
that's done each year for you.

1099
01:00:08,788 --> 01:00:10,148
What time of the year?

1100
01:00:10,228 --> 01:00:13,068
December. It's due to the general assembly by the 15th of December.

1101
01:00:13,348 --> 01:00:15,718
So it gets presented to us in the fall.

1102
01:00:15,768 --> 01:00:18,208
Yeah. We provide it to you, and then we send it to them.

1103
01:00:18,448 --> 01:00:21,168
Okay. All right. So we can expect to see that in the-

1104
01:00:21,348 --> 01:00:24,528
And I'm happy to send you last year's if you'd like to see last year's report.

1105
01:00:24,668 --> 01:00:25,158
That'd be helpful. Yeah.

1106
01:00:25,208 --> 01:00:25,408
Okay.

1107
01:00:25,768 --> 01:00:26,028
Thank you.

1108
01:00:27,588 --> 01:00:28,188
Other questions?

1109
01:00:29,968 --> 01:00:31,808
We do have a motion and a second.

1110
01:00:32,808 --> 01:00:35,828
I'll call for the vote. All those in favor of approving?

1111
01:00:36,328 --> 01:00:36,628
Aye.

1112
01:00:36,708 --> 01:00:38,188
Any opposed?

1113
01:00:39,468 --> 01:00:40,108
Hearing none,

1114
01:00:41,288 --> 01:00:41,988
rule passes.

1115
01:00:42,188 --> 01:00:42,548
Thank you.

1116
01:00:43,848 --> 01:00:44,148
Thank you.

1117
01:00:45,328 --> 01:00:45,508
Thanks.

1118
01:00:54,858 --> 01:00:56,338
Paul, it's pretty much your show today, huh?

1119
01:00:56,458 --> 01:00:56,718
Mm-hmm.

1120
01:00:57,638 --> 01:00:58,358
He's taken over.

1121
01:00:58,938 --> 01:01:01,278
Yeah. Anybody need a Tylenol real quick before we go on?

1122
01:01:02,558 --> 01:01:04,518
Okay. I'm now joined by Dr. Daryl Fridley.

1123
01:01:04,578 --> 01:01:07,178
He's the coordinator of educator preparation.

1124
01:01:07,218 --> 01:01:10,878
He manages the approval process for educator preparation programs across the

1125
01:01:10,978 --> 01:01:14,438
state. The approval of these programs is contingent on the

1126
01:01:14,498 --> 01:01:18,018
graduates meeting the certification requirements that are set by you as a board.

1127
01:01:18,918 --> 01:01:22,698
The degree program itself, and the learning content and classes for that degree

1128
01:01:22,818 --> 01:01:26,798
program, are under the authority of the university as they work to

1129
01:01:26,838 --> 01:01:29,938
meet the standards set by the Department of Higher Education and Workforce

1130
01:01:30,018 --> 01:01:33,158
Development. And I just pull that out to help you

1131
01:01:33,218 --> 01:01:36,798
understand your authority as a board is over the requirements of the

1132
01:01:36,838 --> 01:01:40,268
certification itself, not over an actual

1133
01:01:40,298 --> 01:01:41,018
program.

1134
01:01:41,818 --> 01:01:45,298
Being an approved program means that they are able to recommend candidates for

1135
01:01:45,338 --> 01:01:48,998
certification because they have met your requirements that you have set as a board.

1136
01:01:49,678 --> 01:01:53,278
In our office, the Office of Educator Quality, we work directly with educator

1137
01:01:53,298 --> 01:01:57,258
preparation programs. We also issue certificates of licenses

1138
01:01:57,298 --> 01:01:59,238
to teach through our certification system.

1139
01:01:59,298 --> 01:02:02,858
We have, just for some numbers for you, we have about 80,000

1140
01:02:02,938 --> 01:02:06,858
educators in the state. Many of them have multiple areas of certification,

1141
01:02:06,938 --> 01:02:10,238
so our system manages about 600,000 active

1142
01:02:10,298 --> 01:02:14,138
certificates. And then we also support practicing educators who are

1143
01:02:14,178 --> 01:02:17,738
teachers and school leaders, much like the development of the mentor standards for

1144
01:02:17,798 --> 01:02:19,998
new teachers you just heard about in the previous item.

1145
01:02:20,958 --> 01:02:21,318
Thank you.

1146
01:02:22,678 --> 01:02:26,238
One piece of educator quality is the preparation of new teachers.

1147
01:02:26,618 --> 01:02:30,178
As a reminder, there are three main levels the board can use to influence the

1148
01:02:30,218 --> 01:02:33,518
quality and numbers of educators completing educator

1149
01:02:33,718 --> 01:02:36,878
preparation programs. Your first area kind of

1150
01:02:37,178 --> 01:02:39,298
oversight is educator certification.

1151
01:02:40,258 --> 01:02:43,758
You have the authority to alter requirements a candidate must meet to earn

1152
01:02:43,818 --> 01:02:47,618
certification. Recent actions that have been taken by this board

1153
01:02:47,658 --> 01:02:51,198
include a path to certification in middle and secondary computer

1154
01:02:51,298 --> 01:02:54,958
science, also revisions to the requirements for certification of

1155
01:02:54,998 --> 01:02:58,538
literacy specialists. And we'll be doing more of that

1156
01:02:58,578 --> 01:03:01,758
today. The second area is program approval.

1157
01:03:01,778 --> 01:03:05,718
The board decides which institutions and organizations are authorized

1158
01:03:05,738 --> 01:03:09,338
to prepare teachers. And then your third area of oversight is

1159
01:03:09,638 --> 01:03:13,458
annual program accreditation. You determine which of the approved

1160
01:03:13,818 --> 01:03:17,498
educator preparation providers will be eligible to continue

1161
01:03:17,578 --> 01:03:20,618
recommending candidates for certification in the coming year.

1162
01:03:21,598 --> 01:03:25,238
Our recommendations today are related to the first area, educator

1163
01:03:25,318 --> 01:03:29,198
certification. As we already talked about today, those requirements are approved

1164
01:03:29,238 --> 01:03:33,178
by you as a board. Dr. Fridley now will explain the recommendations we are

1165
01:03:33,198 --> 01:03:35,218
bringing to you today in detail.

1166
01:03:38,238 --> 01:03:38,698
Good morning.

1167
01:03:39,598 --> 01:03:43,438
All the recommendations we're bringing to you today are related to the

1168
01:03:43,478 --> 01:03:46,978
process of becoming a teacher and making that process more

1169
01:03:47,038 --> 01:03:50,438
transparent and understandable, and therefore, more

1170
01:03:50,478 --> 01:03:53,878
navigable for individuals who want to become teachers.

1171
01:03:53,898 --> 01:03:57,438
This is in line with the governor's great initiative on

1172
01:03:57,478 --> 01:04:00,478
improving efficiency in government.

1173
01:04:00,578 --> 01:04:04,258
So we want to make it easy to understand the process.

1174
01:04:05,138 --> 01:04:08,778
The first two rules we are recommending for changes are connected to each other.

1175
01:04:10,698 --> 01:04:14,658
I'll just make a note here. In our presentation, we'll refer to just the

1176
01:04:14,738 --> 01:04:18,488
final number. You see the rule numbers are relatively long,

1177
01:04:19,118 --> 01:04:22,698
but they're all in chapter 400, and so we'll just refer to

1178
01:04:22,938 --> 01:04:26,818
500. The first, Rule 500, is a rule that describes the basic

1179
01:04:26,878 --> 01:04:30,738
requirements for all teacher certifications and all routes by which

1180
01:04:30,838 --> 01:04:32,738
someone can achieve teacher certification.

1181
01:04:33,478 --> 01:04:37,428
The second, 210, describes a path to teacher certification that

1182
01:04:37,478 --> 01:04:39,978
is not included in 500, but should be.

1183
01:04:46,118 --> 01:04:49,998
The general implication of Rule 500 is that it includes all

1184
01:04:50,098 --> 01:04:53,578
routes to teacher certification, but does not

1185
01:04:54,498 --> 01:04:58,258
currently meet that objective. It doesn't include routes that teachers may

1186
01:04:58,358 --> 01:05:02,038
take with the American Board for Certification of Teacher Excellence, or

1187
01:05:02,098 --> 01:05:02,838
ABCTE,

1188
01:05:03,738 --> 01:05:07,178
Teachers of Tomorrow, or via reciprocity with other

1189
01:05:07,258 --> 01:05:11,138
states. To address that, the proposed Rule 500 adds

1190
01:05:11,198 --> 01:05:12,698
ABCTE language

1191
01:05:13,818 --> 01:05:17,548
from 210, adds new language referencing Teachers of Tomorrow,

1192
01:05:18,238 --> 01:05:21,838
and adds a section explaining certification through reciprocity.

1193
01:05:23,038 --> 01:05:26,738
It also clarifies some aspects of the process for adding

1194
01:05:26,778 --> 01:05:28,358
additional certifications.

1195
01:05:28,698 --> 01:05:30,898
Just a quick comment about reciprocity.

1196
01:05:31,038 --> 01:05:34,818
Currently, Missouri has in statute that we accept licenses

1197
01:05:34,858 --> 01:05:38,538
from any other state. We're really one of the few in the country that if you're

1198
01:05:38,658 --> 01:05:42,078
licensed as an elementary teacher in Idaho, you

1199
01:05:42,558 --> 01:05:46,098
get the equivalent comparable certificate in Missouri just by presenting your

1200
01:05:46,198 --> 01:05:47,438
license from that state.

1201
01:05:48,378 --> 01:05:52,298
What Dr. Fridley is describing here is that should be articulated in

1202
01:05:52,518 --> 01:05:56,398
Rule 500, and it's not. And so one of the proposed changes is to get that

1203
01:05:56,438 --> 01:05:58,638
language in there.

1204
01:06:01,918 --> 01:06:05,858
The other main change to 500 is structural, and you'll

1205
01:06:05,938 --> 01:06:09,748
note simply collecting all the requirements for certification into a single

1206
01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:13,778
section instead of several. Again, just trying to make it

1207
01:06:13,838 --> 01:06:17,278
more easy to understand. Having moved the language about

1208
01:06:17,298 --> 01:06:21,158
ABCTE into Rule 500, the related proposal is to rescind Rule

1209
01:06:21,338 --> 01:06:25,328
210. So if you looked at that in a vacuum, you'd think we were getting rid of

1210
01:06:25,358 --> 01:06:28,498
a particular route, but that's not the case. We're simply moving it.

1211
01:06:29,278 --> 01:06:32,898
I'd also like to note one item that looks like a change, but isn't.

1212
01:06:32,938 --> 01:06:35,938
The requirement for a 3.0 GPA in professional

1213
01:06:35,958 --> 01:06:38,658
education has been removed from this rule.

1214
01:06:38,938 --> 01:06:41,738
That's not a change, a removal to the

1215
01:06:41,778 --> 01:06:42,998
requirements.

1216
01:06:44,158 --> 01:06:47,888
It is in the appropriate rules for all the specific certification

1217
01:06:47,958 --> 01:06:49,878
areas, as you'll see when we get to those rules.

1218
01:06:49,958 --> 01:06:53,678
So it's still a requirement, it's just in its more appropriate place.

1219
01:06:53,778 --> 01:06:57,598
Both of the main advisory groups for educator preparation and certification, the

1220
01:06:57,618 --> 01:07:01,318
Missouri Advisory Board for Educator Preparation, and the Missouri

1221
01:07:01,358 --> 01:07:05,318
Advisory Council of Certification for Educators, have voted

1222
01:07:05,358 --> 01:07:07,890
to approve these two recommendations.

1223
01:07:09,950 --> 01:07:12,350
So we are now on agenda item G.

1224
01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:17,150
With the movement of ABCT out of 210, 210 is no longer

1225
01:07:17,570 --> 01:07:20,990
necessary, and so our recommendation today is

1226
01:07:21,290 --> 01:07:24,710
your authorization to rescind Rule 210.

1227
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:30,030
Okay, so we have a request.

1228
01:07:30,970 --> 01:07:34,370
Do I hear a motion for the recension of that, is it 210?

1229
01:07:34,690 --> 01:07:35,570
210, correct.

1230
01:07:35,890 --> 01:07:36,430
Rule 210.

1231
01:07:36,790 --> 01:07:37,430
So moved.

1232
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:38,210
Second.

1233
01:07:38,329 --> 01:07:39,650
Okay. Carrie Casey,

1234
01:07:40,570 --> 01:07:41,370
Mike Watusik.

1235
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:43,430
Okay, John.

1236
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:45,210
In the motion, can

1237
01:07:46,030 --> 01:07:49,970
we clarify that you're rescinding it, but moving it to section 500?

1238
01:07:50,030 --> 01:07:52,930
Well, we will follow that up with H, which talks about-

1239
01:07:53,020 --> 01:07:53,299
Oh, there's another one

1240
01:07:53,299 --> 01:07:55,280
... all the stuff we've added into 500.

1241
01:07:55,390 --> 01:07:57,670
So that's why we're kind of doing them together with you.

1242
01:07:57,930 --> 01:07:58,230
Got it.

1243
01:07:59,690 --> 01:08:03,330
And to clarify or reconfirm, this is for publication

1244
01:08:03,650 --> 01:08:07,370
in the Missouri Register, so this will come

1245
01:08:07,410 --> 01:08:08,470
before us again-

1246
01:08:08,550 --> 01:08:09,119
It will, yeah

1247
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:12,250
... with the comments received and the final recommendation and vote for approval.

1248
01:08:12,270 --> 01:08:15,910
Right. Once they publicize, it'll get 30 days of comment, and then Dr.

1249
01:08:15,970 --> 01:08:17,330
Fridley and I'll be back in September.

1250
01:08:17,410 --> 01:08:21,070
We'll let you know everything we heard about it, and then only then does it become

1251
01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:21,561
official.

1252
01:08:24,030 --> 01:08:25,030
Further questions on it?

1253
01:08:27,130 --> 01:08:27,771
Okay, so

1254
01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:32,190
did you make the motion, Mrs. Casey?

1255
01:08:32,271 --> 01:08:33,471
And you seconded, John?

1256
01:08:33,550 --> 01:08:33,891
I second.

1257
01:08:34,130 --> 01:08:34,820
Okay, Mike.

1258
01:08:35,630 --> 01:08:37,811
So all those in favor of the motion as presented?

1259
01:08:38,170 --> 01:08:38,311
Aye.

1260
01:08:38,391 --> 01:08:38,550
Aye.

1261
01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:40,290
Any opposed?

1262
01:08:41,130 --> 01:08:42,150
Hearing none, that passes.

1263
01:08:42,290 --> 01:08:45,710
Thank you. And then we're on item H, and this one is Rule

1264
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:49,561
500, and it now includes ABCTE. It includes Teachers of

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01:08:49,610 --> 01:08:52,710
Tomorrow. It includes an explanation of

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01:08:52,771 --> 01:08:56,510
reciprocity, and it's got some structural updates, and

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01:08:56,550 --> 01:09:00,450
we're asking for your authorization to publicize for public comment of this one as

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01:09:00,530 --> 01:09:00,750
well.

1269
01:09:02,230 --> 01:09:02,730
So moved.

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01:09:03,190 --> 01:09:03,510
Second.

1271
01:09:04,351 --> 01:09:07,431
Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further questions?

1272
01:09:09,090 --> 01:09:11,170
Thank you for all the information.

1273
01:09:11,311 --> 01:09:12,910
I know a lot of these are

1274
01:09:14,471 --> 01:09:17,391
structural or updates, technical changes,

1275
01:09:18,330 --> 01:09:22,150
consolidating sections, but if there is something in any of

1276
01:09:22,230 --> 01:09:22,870
these that

1277
01:09:23,950 --> 01:09:27,811
is sort of bigger than that or if there's opposing comments

1278
01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:31,550
that, as part of your discussions with stakeholders, it would be helpful to hear

1279
01:09:31,570 --> 01:09:33,120
that. I don't think there usually is.

1280
01:09:33,490 --> 01:09:36,070
Like you said, usually when you bring stuff here,

1281
01:09:36,391 --> 01:09:40,230
you've worked a lot of things out with stakeholders.

1282
01:09:40,311 --> 01:09:44,190
Mm-hmm. We have. And the votes from MACI and MABE are

1283
01:09:44,250 --> 01:09:47,391
important, because that's their chance to

1284
01:09:48,490 --> 01:09:52,000
kind of direct your attention to that, and both were unanimous on these

1285
01:09:52,030 --> 01:09:53,250
being good ideas.

1286
01:09:53,870 --> 01:09:54,190
Thank you.

1287
01:09:56,150 --> 01:09:57,250
Okay, any other questions?

1288
01:09:58,410 --> 01:10:00,430
Excuse me. All those in favor say aye.

1289
01:10:00,790 --> 01:10:00,900
Aye.

1290
01:10:00,900 --> 01:10:00,970
Aye.

1291
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:02,440
Any opposed?

1292
01:10:03,250 --> 01:10:04,680
Hearing none, that passes as well.

1293
01:10:04,830 --> 01:10:05,150
Thank you.

1294
01:10:08,050 --> 01:10:11,340
The next proposed rule change relates to certification to work with

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01:10:11,370 --> 01:10:14,570
children for whom English is not their first language.

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01:10:14,630 --> 01:10:16,060
This is an area of increasing need.

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01:10:16,460 --> 01:10:20,410
The process of reviewing this rule began with requests from districts actually

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01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:21,690
in need of these teachers.

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01:10:23,450 --> 01:10:26,720
To accomplish this project, DESE pulled together a work group of educators from

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01:10:26,770 --> 01:10:30,690
around the state, and we'd like to right now publicly thank those people for

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01:10:30,730 --> 01:10:31,290
their work.

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01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:36,530
So you see we have both K12, DESE, higher ed.

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01:10:42,270 --> 01:10:45,410
The major revisions recommended by the work group include,

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01:10:46,510 --> 01:10:50,370
first, adding a recommendation from an educator preparation provider

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01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:52,330
as a requirement for certification.

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01:10:52,890 --> 01:10:56,510
Currently, this area is one of the only areas of

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01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:59,070
certification in which this is not a requirement.

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01:10:59,350 --> 01:11:02,890
This addition will increase accountability and ensure a greater level of quality

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01:11:02,970 --> 01:11:03,390
control.

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01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:08,590
Next, changing the name of the certification from English Language Learners

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01:11:09,170 --> 01:11:12,230
to a certification in English Language Development.

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01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:18,290
This makes more sense, and the professionals on the work group

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01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:21,430
inform me that that's in line with the language of the field.

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01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:27,750
Next, removing some general requirements that are typically included in an

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01:11:27,810 --> 01:11:31,410
initial certification. This is similar to previous revisions in other

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01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:35,200
advanced areas recently. For example, gifted education

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01:11:35,230 --> 01:11:36,570
a year or so ago.

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01:11:40,410 --> 01:11:44,330
Revising the competencies to make them more clear and better aligned

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01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:48,050
with the field. These more detailed competencies will more

1320
01:11:48,110 --> 01:11:50,600
clearly communicate the state's expectations.

1321
01:11:50,650 --> 01:11:52,189
If you compare those

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01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:59,110
recommendations to what is current, you'll see that what is current is

1323
01:11:59,170 --> 01:12:03,070
much more general, much less specific, and they thought it was

1324
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:06,930
important that they be very clear about what somebody should be able

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01:12:07,010 --> 01:12:09,070
to do and know when they get out of a program.

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01:12:10,110 --> 01:12:11,010
So is that the

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01:12:12,330 --> 01:12:13,650
teacher or the student?

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01:12:14,850 --> 01:12:17,350
These are the competencies for the teacher candidates-

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01:12:17,420 --> 01:12:17,420
The teacher

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01:12:17,420 --> 01:12:19,450
... coming out who are going to get that certification.

1331
01:12:19,650 --> 01:12:19,910
Thank you.

1332
01:12:22,910 --> 01:12:24,330
And then it does

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01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:28,960
reduce the content hours from 18 to 15, and the context is

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01:12:28,990 --> 01:12:32,920
initially the group was asked to consider how this area of certification

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01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:35,630
might be made available at the initial certification level.

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01:12:35,740 --> 01:12:39,730
Currently, it's just an add-on. So you have to have a certification, and then

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01:12:39,790 --> 01:12:42,070
you can add it on. After

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01:12:42,990 --> 01:12:46,940
investigating that, they found that it was not possible at this time because

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01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:49,450
of the difference in content hours.

1340
01:12:49,470 --> 01:12:53,450
But the small reduction in required hours will make it more possible for teacher

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01:12:53,490 --> 01:12:57,450
candidates to fit the coursework for this certification into their undergraduate

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01:12:57,490 --> 01:13:01,410
experience. So it would not be initial, but it makes

1343
01:13:01,450 --> 01:13:05,290
it easier for a program to integrate that if somebody

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01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:08,770
had 15 hours available, had a space available.

1345
01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:12,890
The work group believes that the reduction in hours, and these are people who

1346
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:16,734
are working with Working in the area, including

1347
01:13:16,754 --> 01:13:20,334
training people, they believe that the reduction in hours will not

1348
01:13:20,394 --> 01:13:24,294
adversely affect the quality of preparation, since the expectations for

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01:13:24,334 --> 01:13:27,804
graduates have been made more explicit, and they think that the

1350
01:13:28,114 --> 01:13:32,674
result

1351
01:13:32,734 --> 01:13:36,514
will be more people who have gone through a program who have

1352
01:13:36,594 --> 01:13:38,234
been prepared instead of

1353
01:13:39,454 --> 01:13:42,854
the number of people right now we have who are just filling these positions without

1354
01:13:42,894 --> 01:13:43,394
the training.

1355
01:13:44,894 --> 01:13:48,674
In addition, the work group identified some complications with obtaining

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01:13:48,774 --> 01:13:52,274
certification through reciprocity in this area. Dr.

1357
01:13:52,294 --> 01:13:54,834
Kadnick mentioned reciprocity, and

1358
01:13:55,834 --> 01:13:59,434
there are some challenges with that in this particular area as an add-on.

1359
01:13:59,794 --> 01:14:03,604
While the work group was unable to resolve the issue, the Office of

1360
01:14:03,654 --> 01:14:05,714
Educator Quality is working to address this.

1361
01:14:05,874 --> 01:14:09,294
So, I want to point out that even when we can't figure out a way to address an

1362
01:14:09,374 --> 01:14:13,354
issue immediately, we take the input

1363
01:14:13,414 --> 01:14:16,294
from these professional work groups very seriously.

1364
01:14:16,514 --> 01:14:20,074
And so we continue to work on that issue, and we will address it.

1365
01:14:20,114 --> 01:14:23,834
Yeah. The issue with the reciprocity is that this particular certificate is called

1366
01:14:23,874 --> 01:14:25,774
a lot of different things in other states.

1367
01:14:26,994 --> 01:14:30,874
And what statute tells us is we can issue a comparable certificate, and

1368
01:14:30,934 --> 01:14:34,874
so we're trying to match titles, and that's a little problematic

1369
01:14:34,894 --> 01:14:38,594
when the titles don't match up, and then you have to try to get to the

1370
01:14:38,654 --> 01:14:40,614
actual preparation coursework underneath it.

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01:14:40,654 --> 01:14:43,473
It's just going to take a little more time for us to figure out a clean way to do

1372
01:14:43,514 --> 01:14:46,994
that. So, we wanted to get these changes moved through now,

1373
01:14:48,134 --> 01:14:50,494
and then we'll go back and try to figure that one out.

1374
01:14:50,594 --> 01:14:53,994
So, we are now on agenda item I.

1375
01:14:55,274 --> 01:14:56,474
So both advisory groups,

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01:14:57,434 --> 01:15:01,394
Missouri Advisory Board of Educator Preparation, MABEP, and MAECI, the

1377
01:15:01,534 --> 01:15:04,834
Council for Certification, voted to recommend approval.

1378
01:15:04,844 --> 01:15:08,314
Based on that support, the valuable efforts of the workgroup, and the need for more

1379
01:15:08,374 --> 01:15:12,304
teachers, we are recommending that you authorize publication and allow us

1380
01:15:12,354 --> 01:15:14,574
to put this out for public comment.

1381
01:15:17,074 --> 01:15:17,754
So moved.

1382
01:15:17,794 --> 01:15:21,464
Do we have a motion? Okay. Pamela Westbrook Hodges made the

1383
01:15:21,514 --> 01:15:22,124
motion. Is there-

1384
01:15:22,154 --> 01:15:22,394
Second.

1385
01:15:22,874 --> 01:15:26,154
Okay. Mike Matusik, a second. Are there any further questions on this?

1386
01:15:26,894 --> 01:15:27,554
Mrs. Casey.

1387
01:15:28,154 --> 01:15:28,494
Thank you.

1388
01:15:29,314 --> 01:15:32,914
Could you clarify, if you could go back to the summary of the

1389
01:15:33,014 --> 01:15:36,814
changes, the changing the name of the certification area

1390
01:15:37,454 --> 01:15:39,914
from English Language Learners to Development.

1391
01:15:40,354 --> 01:15:42,434
Is that affecting only the

1392
01:15:43,574 --> 01:15:47,284
EPP program, or is that going to result in changes

1393
01:15:47,354 --> 01:15:50,834
in the program that's actually

1394
01:15:50,874 --> 01:15:52,104
administered in the schools?

1395
01:15:52,834 --> 01:15:55,614
It just changes the title of the certification.

1396
01:15:56,274 --> 01:16:00,154
So schools-- I'm not sure exactly what schools do, but there

1397
01:16:00,174 --> 01:16:04,154
are people in schools on this committee who thought it was

1398
01:16:04,214 --> 01:16:07,674
fine. But it would not automatically change anything in schools.

1399
01:16:09,854 --> 01:16:13,134
It would just say, "This is the certification that the person has."

1400
01:16:13,934 --> 01:16:17,294
And that seems to match nationally what's happening with the title of this

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01:16:17,314 --> 01:16:20,394
particular area, and so we didn't want to be out of step with what

1402
01:16:21,274 --> 01:16:23,573
was happening nationally in this area.

1403
01:16:23,974 --> 01:16:24,634
Okay. Thank you.

1404
01:16:26,834 --> 01:16:28,714
Do we have any further questions on this topic?

1405
01:16:30,714 --> 01:16:32,874
Hearing none, all those in favor?

1406
01:16:33,074 --> 01:16:33,394
Aye.

1407
01:16:33,434 --> 01:16:33,774
Aye.

1408
01:16:34,394 --> 01:16:35,474
Is there any opposed?

1409
01:16:36,734 --> 01:16:38,094
Hearing none, the motion passes.

1410
01:16:38,314 --> 01:16:42,254
Thank you. We're down to our set of the final three.

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01:16:45,174 --> 01:16:49,114
We brought this last set of recommendations to you first in March, and we did

1412
01:16:49,214 --> 01:16:50,114
a webinar

1413
01:16:51,094 --> 01:16:54,794
to explain that for some. Since that time, we have discussed them with a

1414
01:16:54,814 --> 01:16:57,714
variety of stakeholders, and we've made adjustments accordingly.

1415
01:17:01,114 --> 01:17:04,434
If you'll recall, we mentioned to you in March, for those of you who are here,

1416
01:17:04,914 --> 01:17:08,754
that requirements for certification in 599-12 and

1417
01:17:08,834 --> 01:17:12,794
K-12 areas vary widely. You can see from this chart

1418
01:17:12,954 --> 01:17:14,794
just how different some areas are.

1419
01:17:15,194 --> 01:17:19,074
For example, agricultural education and physical education both

1420
01:17:19,134 --> 01:17:22,154
require more than 50 hours of content.

1421
01:17:22,194 --> 01:17:26,054
While areas like art, computer science, which was just recently approved

1422
01:17:26,094 --> 01:17:29,794
by this board, and world languages, that includes Spanish,

1423
01:17:29,894 --> 01:17:32,733
French, German, require only 30 hours.

1424
01:17:33,454 --> 01:17:36,254
That's a difference of more than a semester's worth of courses.

1425
01:17:37,754 --> 01:17:40,914
There is no clear justification for these differences overall.

1426
01:17:41,334 --> 01:17:45,074
Instead, they are an unintended consequence of DESE's commitment

1427
01:17:45,134 --> 01:17:46,954
to collaborating with practitioners.

1428
01:17:47,554 --> 01:17:51,334
Historically, where groups of content experts were created to determine

1429
01:17:51,394 --> 01:17:53,794
specific certification requirements.

1430
01:17:54,444 --> 01:17:58,014
Those groups worked in relative isolation, however, focusing primarily on the

1431
01:17:58,074 --> 01:18:01,374
content knowledge they thought a teacher would need to be

1432
01:18:02,154 --> 01:18:02,734
aware of,

1433
01:18:04,654 --> 01:18:08,534
and not the broader context in which the teacher is getting that

1434
01:18:08,594 --> 01:18:09,034
training,

1435
01:18:10,634 --> 01:18:13,434
like thinking about the total number of hours and the cost of

1436
01:18:14,734 --> 01:18:16,214
college and those type of things.

1437
01:18:17,934 --> 01:18:21,874
And so we ended up with this disconnected variety of

1438
01:18:21,894 --> 01:18:25,564
requirements. You'll also notice that there are several areas with

1439
01:18:25,734 --> 01:18:29,694
24-hour requirements. We put those on here because they're a

1440
01:18:29,754 --> 01:18:33,314
part of what we're talking about generally today, but those are the

1441
01:18:33,634 --> 01:18:37,574
59 or the middle school areas, and we included those just so you'd have

1442
01:18:37,634 --> 01:18:39,134
context for these proposals.

1443
01:18:42,814 --> 01:18:46,753
In addition to differences in content requirements, we also found differences

1444
01:18:47,674 --> 01:18:50,574
in pedagogy requirements across different certification

1445
01:18:50,634 --> 01:18:53,924
paths. For example, the temporary authorization

1446
01:18:54,014 --> 01:18:57,744
certificate in the first column there only requires

1447
01:18:57,914 --> 01:19:01,604
24 hours focused on teaching skills and knowledge or

1448
01:19:01,734 --> 01:19:02,354
pedagogy,

1449
01:19:03,194 --> 01:19:06,734
while certification in 912 areas requires 36 hours.

1450
01:19:07,074 --> 01:19:10,994
Again, we found no research-based justification for any of

1451
01:19:11,054 --> 01:19:12,454
these wide variations.

1452
01:19:13,574 --> 01:19:16,974
The current structure makes the path to becoming a teacher more confusing and at

1453
01:19:17,014 --> 01:19:18,313
times longer to complete.

1454
01:19:19,298 --> 01:19:22,958
Of course, more time in school has real financial costs, as you can see from the

1455
01:19:22,998 --> 01:19:24,578
blue cells across the middle.

1456
01:19:25,578 --> 01:19:29,178
These are the estimated costs just for the courses required in each

1457
01:19:29,188 --> 01:19:32,998
category. They do not include the cost of an overall college

1458
01:19:33,058 --> 01:19:36,818
degree. So when you look at, say, 9-12,

1459
01:19:37,558 --> 01:19:38,618
those courses,

1460
01:19:39,968 --> 01:19:43,378
those fit into a degree. The

1461
01:19:43,418 --> 01:19:47,408
TAC, the TAC, and the alt cert are on top of a degree because

1462
01:19:47,438 --> 01:19:50,358
you have to have a degree first to be in those programs.

1463
01:19:50,858 --> 01:19:54,618
So we're talking about very real financial

1464
01:19:54,698 --> 01:19:57,948
barriers to students moving forward and becoming

1465
01:19:58,198 --> 01:19:59,318
well-prepared teachers.

1466
01:20:03,298 --> 01:20:06,878
We chose to address these particular grade levels because the percentage of

1467
01:20:06,938 --> 01:20:10,758
comprehensively prepared teachers is lower in these grades than in the

1468
01:20:10,838 --> 01:20:14,758
overall first-year population. When we shared this

1469
01:20:14,818 --> 01:20:18,758
chart in March, Ms. Westbrook-Hodge requested that these data

1470
01:20:18,838 --> 01:20:21,998
be disaggregated further according to a measure of

1471
01:20:22,058 --> 01:20:22,958
effectiveness.

1472
01:20:25,138 --> 01:20:29,038
So in response, we divided first-year teachers into two

1473
01:20:29,138 --> 01:20:32,758
groups, those who were hired in school districts whose most

1474
01:20:32,818 --> 01:20:36,708
recent APR score was 80 or above, and those hired in

1475
01:20:36,718 --> 01:20:40,008
districts with an annual performance report score below 80.

1476
01:20:41,498 --> 01:20:45,018
This chart shows the distribution of first-year teachers in the higher-scoring

1477
01:20:45,098 --> 01:20:48,738
school districts. You may note that the percentage of teachers comprehensively

1478
01:20:48,758 --> 01:20:52,738
prepared by a Missouri educator preparation provider is higher than the

1479
01:20:52,778 --> 01:20:55,598
percentage in the overall chart we just showed

1480
01:20:57,038 --> 01:21:00,478
in the previous slide. And the percentage of teachers with either no

1481
01:21:00,518 --> 01:21:04,188
certification or only substitute teacher licenses is much lower

1482
01:21:04,338 --> 01:21:04,758
also.

1483
01:21:05,158 --> 01:21:09,108
So, for our new board members, our existing board members have

1484
01:21:09,158 --> 01:21:11,518
seen this data a couple of times already.

1485
01:21:12,138 --> 01:21:16,038
But we've taken a cohort of first-year teachers, and we've asked the question: How

1486
01:21:16,078 --> 01:21:18,488
did they get to become a first-year teacher?

1487
01:21:18,578 --> 01:21:21,898
And the dark green went through a traditionally prepared

1488
01:21:21,908 --> 01:21:25,638
program. Those are the ones with higher effectiveness, higher

1489
01:21:25,698 --> 01:21:28,578
retention rates. That's the desired route.

1490
01:21:28,738 --> 01:21:32,298
Then there are folks who come through either from a different state through that

1491
01:21:32,318 --> 01:21:35,958
reciprocity we've talked about, or they're coming through an alternative area,

1492
01:21:36,018 --> 01:21:39,798
which eventually they'll join the people in the green, but they're not

1493
01:21:39,818 --> 01:21:43,718
done yet. But they're already in front of a classroom of teachers, teaching while

1494
01:21:43,738 --> 01:21:44,638
they're finishing.

1495
01:21:45,878 --> 01:21:49,858
The yellow are two legislatively mandated

1496
01:21:49,918 --> 01:21:52,698
routes. That's ABCTE and Teachers of Tomorrow.

1497
01:21:53,278 --> 01:21:57,218
And then we have teachers who are only on a sub cert or don't have any

1498
01:21:57,258 --> 01:21:59,638
area certification who are also teaching students.

1499
01:22:00,298 --> 01:22:03,798
And this is what that cohort looks like when the school district's

1500
01:22:03,878 --> 01:22:07,678
APR is 80 or above, meaning they're a higher-performing school

1501
01:22:07,758 --> 01:22:11,658
district. Dr. Fridley will show you next what happens when we look at the school

1502
01:22:11,798 --> 01:22:15,458
districts below 80, so it's a lower-performing school

1503
01:22:15,518 --> 01:22:15,998
district.

1504
01:22:16,258 --> 01:22:19,798
And I would also mention, if somebody might ask, "Well, why do we care about this?"

1505
01:22:19,938 --> 01:22:20,468
We do have

1506
01:22:21,498 --> 01:22:25,098
data, for example, that those who finish a comprehensive program

1507
01:22:25,538 --> 01:22:29,407
have a higher retention by 15 to 20 points over

1508
01:22:30,418 --> 01:22:33,798
many of the others. As you can imagine, people who come in with just a

1509
01:22:33,838 --> 01:22:37,388
substitute certification are not as likely to stay.

1510
01:22:37,438 --> 01:22:39,358
So in terms of the mentoring that Dr.

1511
01:22:39,538 --> 01:22:43,238
Lewis was talking about, you're starting over again each year

1512
01:22:43,378 --> 01:22:47,138
instead of that consistent mentoring over multiple years.

1513
01:22:48,058 --> 01:22:51,768
And that little light green slot there is worth noting.

1514
01:22:52,148 --> 01:22:53,808
Those are people who are provisionally--

1515
01:22:55,478 --> 01:22:59,338
they're nearly completed. They're on a provisional because they're close to being

1516
01:22:59,398 --> 01:22:59,758
done.

1517
01:23:00,878 --> 01:23:03,958
We refer to those often as student teachers of record.

1518
01:23:04,558 --> 01:23:08,458
Those are student teachers who are not having the

1519
01:23:08,478 --> 01:23:09,978
full student teacher experience.

1520
01:23:10,288 --> 01:23:13,878
They are the teachers of record while they're doing that final internship.

1521
01:23:15,358 --> 01:23:18,978
And last semester, in the fall semester of this year, about a

1522
01:23:19,058 --> 01:23:22,898
quarter of our student teachers in the state were functioning

1523
01:23:22,958 --> 01:23:25,318
as teachers of record. So that changes things.

1524
01:23:25,618 --> 01:23:28,888
The other thing that I would note about the dark green, the comprehensively

1525
01:23:29,058 --> 01:23:32,798
prepared, that's the area in which this board and this

1526
01:23:32,858 --> 01:23:34,678
department has the most oversight.

1527
01:23:35,058 --> 01:23:37,738
When we talk about the changes that we're going to suggest here,

1528
01:23:38,878 --> 01:23:41,157
they affect the dark green the most.

1529
01:23:41,638 --> 01:23:41,978
If we're going to

1530
01:23:43,538 --> 01:23:47,518
affect somebody's preparation before they go into teaching, that's where

1531
01:23:47,558 --> 01:23:48,318
we can have that

1532
01:23:49,858 --> 01:23:53,398
influence. So we care about that because we can improve

1533
01:23:53,478 --> 01:23:57,358
things in that area much more than we can, say, out of state or even the

1534
01:23:57,458 --> 01:24:00,858
alt cert, where they're going to have the experience, but they're not going to get

1535
01:24:00,898 --> 01:24:02,018
it before they start teaching.

1536
01:24:02,458 --> 01:24:02,738
Mm-hmm.

1537
01:24:05,858 --> 01:24:09,778
So this chart shows the same distribution in school districts scoring below 80

1538
01:24:09,858 --> 01:24:11,808
on the most recent annual performance report.

1539
01:24:12,468 --> 01:24:15,788
The percentage of teachers comprehensively prepared by Missouri educator

1540
01:24:15,898 --> 01:24:19,278
preparation providers is more than 15 percentage points lower

1541
01:24:19,798 --> 01:24:23,618
than in the previous group, and the percentage of teachers with no certification

1542
01:24:23,678 --> 01:24:27,248
or only a substitute license is more than 15 percentages higher,

1543
01:24:27,358 --> 01:24:28,798
percentage points higher.

1544
01:24:29,938 --> 01:24:33,878
Assuming these districts hire this large number of unprepared first-year

1545
01:24:33,938 --> 01:24:37,468
teachers, at least in part because they are having difficulty finding

1546
01:24:37,518 --> 01:24:41,218
qualified teachers, increasing the number of comprehensively prepared

1547
01:24:41,318 --> 01:24:43,998
teachers will benefit these school districts most.

1548
01:24:44,588 --> 01:24:47,078
The following proposals are intended to do just that.

1549
01:24:51,938 --> 01:24:55,588
It's within this context just described that the department is proposing these

1550
01:24:55,618 --> 01:24:59,118
changes to all certification areas for grades five through nine,

1551
01:25:00,438 --> 01:25:04,208
nine through 12. So the five through nine would be typically middle school, nine

1552
01:25:04,258 --> 01:25:05,768
through 12 high school, secondary.

1553
01:25:06,168 --> 01:25:08,928
And K through 12, which are areas that cover the entire

1554
01:25:10,318 --> 01:25:11,718
gamut, like art and music.

1555
01:25:13,518 --> 01:25:16,998
So one thing it would do is it would set required pedagogical knowledge for all

1556
01:25:17,038 --> 01:25:20,938
three areas to 24 hours. This would bring these areas in line

1557
01:25:20,978 --> 01:25:24,878
with the 24 hours already approved by this board for the

1558
01:25:24,918 --> 01:25:26,578
temporary authorization certificate.

1559
01:25:27,890 --> 01:25:31,670
Certification. Within those 24 hours, they would remain or require

1560
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:35,509
three hours dedicated to literacy instruction.

1561
01:25:36,210 --> 01:25:40,170
This is the number of hours already approved for K-12 certifications

1562
01:25:40,290 --> 01:25:44,070
and is more than is currently required for a temporary authorization certificate.

1563
01:25:45,070 --> 01:25:48,620
Recent changes have made literacy requirements more explicit in these areas,

1564
01:25:49,110 --> 01:25:52,110
and we will revisit those in the near future to make sure that

1565
01:25:52,170 --> 01:25:55,910
teachers are well prepared to support reading development in older

1566
01:25:55,950 --> 01:25:57,550
children.

1567
01:26:02,670 --> 01:26:05,450
In terms of content knowledge, these changes would

1568
01:26:07,170 --> 01:26:07,770
move the

1569
01:26:08,610 --> 01:26:12,410
requirement for 5-9 to 21

1570
01:26:12,450 --> 01:26:14,890
hours, and the minimum requirement

1571
01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:18,830
for 9-12 and K-12 to 30 hours.

1572
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:23,350
Those must be aligned with the Missouri

1573
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:26,730
Learning Standards and the certification test framework.

1574
01:26:31,090 --> 01:26:35,050
While this change will result in a significant reduction in hours in some areas, 10

1575
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:38,530
of the 24 9 through 12 and K-12 areas

1576
01:26:39,010 --> 01:26:42,410
already have requirements within three hours of the proposed

1577
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:46,690
rules of 30, and those are indicated by the green bars.

1578
01:26:46,750 --> 01:26:50,010
So, you can see that while it'd be a big change for some areas,

1579
01:26:50,430 --> 01:26:54,370
on the whole, it's not

1580
01:26:54,430 --> 01:26:57,250
a major change. It should also be noted that

1581
01:26:57,270 --> 01:27:01,030
institutional

1582
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,710
programs are free to require more hours.

1583
01:27:04,270 --> 01:27:07,320
This is just setting a state minimum that

1584
01:27:07,530 --> 01:27:08,530
institutions

1585
01:27:09,390 --> 01:27:13,250
cannot go lower than. And again, we've already approved several

1586
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:14,750
programs at 30.

1587
01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:22,530
So, when I first started visiting with you this morning, I talked about that

1588
01:27:22,610 --> 01:27:26,590
preparation phase that happens even before we get to a day like

1589
01:27:26,630 --> 01:27:29,490
today, where we're sitting in front of you, and I mentioned that sometimes it could

1590
01:27:29,530 --> 01:27:33,370
be two years of work that happens before we even show up

1591
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:37,090
here. This is an area where we've spent that much time, because

1592
01:27:37,150 --> 01:27:40,530
it's a bit of a significant shift, and we wanted to make sure we talked to

1593
01:27:40,590 --> 01:27:44,430
everybody. The tension we're trying to get right is to make

1594
01:27:44,490 --> 01:27:48,470
it easier to understand to be a teacher, and to make sure

1595
01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:52,410
that they have what they need to be successful, but not too

1596
01:27:52,450 --> 01:27:56,440
much. And if we can't defend some areas having

1597
01:27:56,670 --> 01:28:00,290
50 hours while others have 30, then we have to really take a look at that, and

1598
01:28:00,310 --> 01:28:02,190
that's what we've been exploring for two years.

1599
01:28:02,610 --> 01:28:05,210
That's the big number of groups that we've been talking to,

1600
01:28:06,230 --> 01:28:09,630
checking this out. We've visited with these different content areas.

1601
01:28:10,580 --> 01:28:13,640
We've run numbers of what we think the benefit will be to the state, and some of

1602
01:28:13,670 --> 01:28:17,470
those benefits are immediate. For example, if there are PE

1603
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:21,470
candidates out there that have 30 hours today and are still

1604
01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:25,370
needing to take 20 hours to be a PE teacher, with this

1605
01:28:25,410 --> 01:28:27,870
change, they could immediately be eligible to be a teacher.

1606
01:28:27,940 --> 01:28:30,810
So, it's going to get us more teachers in the classrooms.

1607
01:28:30,839 --> 01:28:34,790
And not only more teachers, but more comprehensively prepared teachers, which

1608
01:28:34,830 --> 01:28:38,690
is that dark green, which are our best candidates for being

1609
01:28:38,730 --> 01:28:40,850
effective teachers and best retention rates.

1610
01:28:41,250 --> 01:28:43,110
And that's what we're trying to accomplish here.

1611
01:28:43,850 --> 01:28:47,790
We took this, as we always do, before both advisory groups, our MABEP group

1612
01:28:47,810 --> 01:28:50,270
and our MACE group, which you've heard about all morning.

1613
01:28:50,610 --> 01:28:53,330
And both of them have voted to approve this revision.

1614
01:28:53,970 --> 01:28:57,770
And based on that support, the need for more teachers in

1615
01:28:57,810 --> 01:29:01,610
these areas, we are recommending your support on this.

1616
01:29:01,690 --> 01:29:05,559
So, we'll start with item J. This is for our 5-9 middle

1617
01:29:05,690 --> 01:29:09,510
schoolers. We're asking for your authority to publicize

1618
01:29:09,690 --> 01:29:12,920
this rule and get public comment that we'll bring back to you in September.

1619
01:29:15,710 --> 01:29:16,150
So moved.

1620
01:29:16,710 --> 01:29:17,090
Second.

1621
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:21,670
So, we have a motion and a second. Are there any other questions that come

1622
01:29:21,710 --> 01:29:22,710
before us on this?

1623
01:29:25,210 --> 01:29:28,790
No question. Just a comment. I know the rule-making processes

1624
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:31,870
can take many, many months or years in this case, and

1625
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:37,270
we're sort of getting through all of this in 45 minutes or something.

1626
01:29:37,330 --> 01:29:41,270
But I do appreciate the way you guys present the information, hit the high

1627
01:29:41,310 --> 01:29:43,850
points. I like the visuals personally.

1628
01:29:44,370 --> 01:29:46,129
It makes it easier for me to understand.

1629
01:29:46,890 --> 01:29:50,630
But I know it takes a lot of work to get to this point and still a lot of work to

1630
01:29:50,650 --> 01:29:52,730
be done after. So, just wanted to say thank you

1631
01:29:52,790 --> 01:29:56,220
for both being comprehensive in your

1632
01:29:56,290 --> 01:29:56,970
explanation

1633
01:29:57,810 --> 01:29:58,810
and making it

1634
01:29:59,790 --> 01:30:02,770
relatively quick, right? So we're not here for six... But thank you.

1635
01:30:02,810 --> 01:30:04,290
I think you guys do great.

1636
01:30:04,650 --> 01:30:04,950
Thank you.

1637
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:05,970
President Miller.

1638
01:30:06,530 --> 01:30:06,590
Yeah.

1639
01:30:06,630 --> 01:30:07,950
I do have one comment.

1640
01:30:08,020 --> 01:30:08,020
Please proceed.

1641
01:30:08,030 --> 01:30:10,150
Thank you. And I echo that.

1642
01:30:11,170 --> 01:30:15,110
I really do appreciate, it's difficult when we're reading

1643
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,690
the narrative, if you will, in our preparation, so to have this summary

1644
01:30:18,750 --> 01:30:20,110
is very helpful.

1645
01:30:21,870 --> 01:30:24,910
When you do come back, because this is for posting

1646
01:30:25,730 --> 01:30:29,630
to go out into the register, and you'll be coming back for our

1647
01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:31,389
final approval, this item as well.

1648
01:30:31,470 --> 01:30:32,610
We anticipate September.

1649
01:30:33,070 --> 01:30:36,850
Good. When you do come back, as this as with any

1650
01:30:36,930 --> 01:30:40,830
other recommendation where appropriate, I would like you to present

1651
01:30:40,930 --> 01:30:41,390
how

1652
01:30:42,690 --> 01:30:46,370
you are going to be able to track the effectiveness of this

1653
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:46,870
change.

1654
01:30:48,430 --> 01:30:50,470
And I realize that won't be instantaneous.

1655
01:30:50,550 --> 01:30:54,430
It would take a period of time, but what would you do to better

1656
01:30:54,590 --> 01:30:57,830
isolate academic outcomes

1657
01:30:57,890 --> 01:31:01,010
associated to this change, or retention, or both?

1658
01:31:01,250 --> 01:31:02,130
We can certainly do that.

1659
01:31:02,510 --> 01:31:02,750
Thank you.

1660
01:31:05,090 --> 01:31:06,550
Okay. Any other questions?

1661
01:31:10,210 --> 01:31:11,390
All those in favor say aye.

1662
01:31:11,770 --> 01:31:12,150
Aye.

1663
01:31:12,230 --> 01:31:13,750
Any opposed?

1664
01:31:14,570 --> 01:31:16,070
Hearing none, that motion passes.

1665
01:31:16,270 --> 01:31:20,250
Thank you. Item K, this is now for 9-12, so these are our high school, 9

1666
01:31:20,290 --> 01:31:24,110
through 12. Same actions to standardize the pedagogy and the content

1667
01:31:24,230 --> 01:31:27,850
hours. We're asking for your authorization to publicize this rule.

1668
01:31:28,130 --> 01:31:28,610
So moved.

1669
01:31:29,190 --> 01:31:29,550
Second.

1670
01:31:30,250 --> 01:31:33,470
We have a motion and a second. Are there any questions with regards to this?

1671
01:31:35,874 --> 01:31:38,554
Hearing none. All those in favor say aye.

1672
01:31:38,723 --> 01:31:38,723
Aye.

1673
01:31:38,754 --> 01:31:39,294
Aye.

1674
01:31:39,674 --> 01:31:40,454
Any opposed?

1675
01:31:41,594 --> 01:31:42,234
Hearing none.

1676
01:31:43,474 --> 01:31:47,274
Thank you. And item L, this is now for K12 education, and the exact

1677
01:31:47,314 --> 01:31:48,354
same changes to this one.

1678
01:31:48,654 --> 01:31:49,074
So moved.

1679
01:31:49,874 --> 01:31:50,414
We have a motion.

1680
01:31:51,034 --> 01:31:51,044
Second.

1681
01:31:51,054 --> 01:31:54,213
And a second. Any questions on this?

1682
01:31:56,014 --> 01:31:57,054
Okay, call for the vote.

1683
01:31:57,994 --> 01:31:59,874
All those in favor, say aye.

1684
01:32:00,334 --> 01:32:00,644
Aye.

1685
01:32:00,644 --> 01:32:00,674
Aye.

1686
01:32:01,274 --> 01:32:02,494
Any opposed, likewise?

1687
01:32:04,094 --> 01:32:04,354
Okay.

1688
01:32:04,574 --> 01:32:04,874
Thank you.

1689
01:32:05,194 --> 01:32:05,534
Thank you.

1690
01:32:14,794 --> 01:32:18,494
So now we're down to, let's see here,

1691
01:32:18,614 --> 01:32:20,094
letter M.

1692
01:32:21,134 --> 01:32:21,434
Ivy.

1693
01:32:22,403 --> 01:32:22,403
L.

1694
01:32:22,474 --> 01:32:22,854
Is it L?

1695
01:32:24,644 --> 01:32:24,644
L.

1696
01:32:25,094 --> 01:32:25,314
No.

1697
01:32:25,464 --> 01:32:26,404
No. It's Ivy.

1698
01:32:26,704 --> 01:32:26,704
Here.

1699
01:32:26,734 --> 01:32:27,174
Yeah.

1700
01:32:29,294 --> 01:32:29,894
President Miller?

1701
01:32:32,174 --> 01:32:33,294
Would you introduce yourself?

1702
01:32:33,974 --> 01:32:37,894
I will. I'm Lisa Ivy. I'm a program administrator at the Office of

1703
01:32:37,974 --> 01:32:38,574
Childhood.

1704
01:32:43,054 --> 01:32:43,934
Okay. Thank you.

1705
01:32:45,834 --> 01:32:49,734
Okay. So good morning, and just thank you for this opportunity to follow up

1706
01:32:49,794 --> 01:32:53,234
on this. So just to remind the board, this is a

1707
01:32:53,294 --> 01:32:57,034
follow-up to the rule amendment that we presented back in

1708
01:32:57,094 --> 01:32:57,574
March.

1709
01:32:58,514 --> 01:33:02,194
So this has gone out for the 30-day comment, so we are

1710
01:33:02,234 --> 01:33:05,874
back in front of you guys today to do the

1711
01:33:05,934 --> 01:33:06,624
final order.

1712
01:33:09,974 --> 01:33:10,134
Okay.

1713
01:33:11,574 --> 01:33:15,274
Just a little bit of history about this to reiterate what we presented back in

1714
01:33:15,354 --> 01:33:18,154
March. But the rule itself is remaining the same.

1715
01:33:18,694 --> 01:33:22,474
However, we are requesting an amendment to the incorporated by reference

1716
01:33:22,554 --> 01:33:24,294
material that is part of that rule.

1717
01:33:25,234 --> 01:33:28,994
That incorporated by reference material is the Early Childhood

1718
01:33:29,074 --> 01:33:31,614
Development Act Administrative Manual.

1719
01:33:35,554 --> 01:33:38,354
That administrative manual is made up of

1720
01:33:38,414 --> 01:33:40,934
10 items that are required.

1721
01:33:42,134 --> 01:33:45,454
We are requesting to amend three of those

1722
01:33:45,614 --> 01:33:49,254
items. The first item that we are requesting is an

1723
01:33:49,394 --> 01:33:52,834
amendment so that the parent educators are able to attend

1724
01:33:52,894 --> 01:33:56,103
eligibility meetings with families that are connecting to the First

1725
01:33:56,154 --> 01:34:00,024
Steps or to Early Childhood Special Education Services.

1726
01:34:00,754 --> 01:34:04,554
This is an opportunity for the parent educators to provide support for

1727
01:34:04,614 --> 01:34:08,524
that family when families are going through that eligibility

1728
01:34:08,594 --> 01:34:09,214
process.

1729
01:34:11,094 --> 01:34:14,634
And then within that same item, we are also asking to

1730
01:34:14,694 --> 01:34:18,103
expand the language for mass screenings, developmental

1731
01:34:18,114 --> 01:34:22,094
screenings, which encourages more screenings for all children under

1732
01:34:22,134 --> 01:34:23,674
the age of kindergarten entry.

1733
01:34:28,314 --> 01:34:31,834
In addition, we're asking to amend item

1734
01:34:32,054 --> 01:34:35,724
five, which is the language around curriculum and

1735
01:34:35,794 --> 01:34:39,323
training. So this is required by the Parents as Teachers

1736
01:34:39,454 --> 01:34:43,074
National Center, and the National Center has gone through a name

1737
01:34:43,194 --> 01:34:47,174
change with their curriculum, and we are requesting to update the language

1738
01:34:47,214 --> 01:34:50,794
in our administrative manual to reflect that name change of the National Center.

1739
01:34:52,354 --> 01:34:54,194
And last is item six.

1740
01:34:55,234 --> 01:34:57,954
This item is around data-sharing agreements.

1741
01:34:58,474 --> 01:35:02,274
So this is a practice that we've actually had in place for a couple of years

1742
01:35:02,354 --> 01:35:05,714
now. But it has been outside of the scope of the

1743
01:35:05,754 --> 01:35:09,304
administrative manual, so we want to update the administrative manual for some of

1744
01:35:09,334 --> 01:35:10,804
those data-sharing agreements.

1745
01:35:14,354 --> 01:35:17,894
So, as I had mentioned, this had gone out for public comment.

1746
01:35:18,894 --> 01:35:20,294
We did not have any

1747
01:35:21,354 --> 01:35:22,834
comments outside of our department.

1748
01:35:22,874 --> 01:35:25,474
The department did make two internal comments.

1749
01:35:26,054 --> 01:35:30,034
One of those was an error that was in the website link, to review

1750
01:35:30,054 --> 01:35:33,914
the incorporated by reference material, so we did have the website link

1751
01:35:33,974 --> 01:35:35,794
updated to reflect the current link.

1752
01:35:36,774 --> 01:35:40,334
And then the second internal department comment is where we

1753
01:35:40,414 --> 01:35:44,214
identified an additional clarification that was needed, and this was

1754
01:35:44,254 --> 01:35:47,844
just to ensure some clear requirements and interpretation around personal

1755
01:35:47,934 --> 01:35:50,274
visit and the documentation around that.

1756
01:35:55,194 --> 01:35:56,853
So barring no questions,

1757
01:35:57,654 --> 01:36:01,514
the department is recommending that the State Board of Education issue an order of

1758
01:36:01,634 --> 01:36:04,234
rulemaking to amend the 5 CSR

1759
01:36:04,394 --> 01:36:07,874
25-100.330.

1760
01:36:11,074 --> 01:36:11,534
We have a rec-

1761
01:36:11,634 --> 01:36:12,094
So moved.

1762
01:36:12,894 --> 01:36:14,974
Mike Matusik makes a motion. Second?

1763
01:36:15,134 --> 01:36:15,434
Second.

1764
01:36:16,094 --> 01:36:20,054
Otto, making the second. Any further questions on this subject?

1765
01:36:21,334 --> 01:36:24,954
Thank you for the information. So again, just a general question.

1766
01:36:25,394 --> 01:36:28,414
In the development of this,

1767
01:36:28,514 --> 01:36:32,014
I know there were no comments obviously, but are

1768
01:36:32,054 --> 01:36:35,814
these again just technical kind of updates,

1769
01:36:35,894 --> 01:36:38,334
so no opposition from anybody that you're aware of?

1770
01:36:38,614 --> 01:36:41,614
No. We did not receive any public comments.

1771
01:36:41,994 --> 01:36:45,784
In the creation of this, or the revision of the administrative manual, there is a

1772
01:36:45,854 --> 01:36:49,494
stakeholder group that composes of several of our parent

1773
01:36:49,534 --> 01:36:52,764
educators, in addition to the Parents as Teachers National

1774
01:36:52,794 --> 01:36:54,534
Center and the Missouri

1775
01:36:55,994 --> 01:36:57,734
Parents as Teachers Association.

1776
01:36:57,974 --> 01:37:00,394
So they were all involved in the revision of these documents.

1777
01:37:00,974 --> 01:37:01,274
Thank you.

1778
01:37:01,374 --> 01:37:01,594
Mm-hmm.

1779
01:37:03,514 --> 01:37:04,064
Other questions?

1780
01:37:04,274 --> 01:37:06,094
Just a comment on the Parents as Teachers.

1781
01:37:06,934 --> 01:37:08,034
My mom excuse me,

1782
01:37:09,594 --> 01:37:09,844
was a

1783
01:37:11,454 --> 01:37:14,814
classroom teacher for 30 years, then 20 years as Parents as Teachers,

1784
01:37:15,534 --> 01:37:17,094
and she passed away last week.

1785
01:37:19,594 --> 01:37:23,414
But the number of families, I'm sorry, that came forward on

1786
01:37:23,454 --> 01:37:25,954
those visits, and the difference it made,

1787
01:37:26,414 --> 01:37:30,014
if you don't know about the Parents as Teachers program, it is

1788
01:37:30,074 --> 01:37:33,274
something that's worth examining because it makes a real difference,

1789
01:37:33,714 --> 01:37:35,274
especially in certain neighborhoods.

1790
01:37:35,454 --> 01:37:35,674
And

1791
01:37:36,994 --> 01:37:38,914
I got to hear those testimonies last week.

1792
01:37:40,494 --> 01:37:41,084
I appreciate that. Thank you.

1793
01:37:41,084 --> 01:37:42,214
Thank you, Robert. Appreciate that

1794
01:37:45,550 --> 01:37:47,610
Any other comments, questions?

1795
01:37:49,010 --> 01:37:52,590
Hearing none, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, please say aye.

1796
01:37:52,830 --> 01:37:53,050
Aye.

1797
01:37:53,930 --> 01:37:54,730
Any opposition?

1798
01:37:56,090 --> 01:37:58,170
And that is unanimous. Thank you for your work on that.

1799
01:37:58,370 --> 01:37:58,710
Thank you.

1800
01:38:00,410 --> 01:38:02,650
Okay. I think right now we're going to take a short break.

1801
01:38:03,570 --> 01:38:06,030
And if you would, we'll go for 15 minutes.

1802
01:38:06,090 --> 01:38:08,620
So if you'd come back at 10:20, we'd appreciate it.

1803
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,250
On behalf of

1804
01:43:43,670 --> 01:43:45,120
the American Marketing Association, please accept this certificate commemorating

1805
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:45,120
your-

1806
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:56,650
On our agenda, we are down to

1807
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:59,670
letter N

1808
01:53:00,710 --> 01:53:02,970
of 11, and so that's

1809
01:53:04,090 --> 01:53:05,870
Dr. Sereno. And so,

1810
01:53:07,130 --> 01:53:11,120
we welcome your group here. It seems like you brought the whole team, or most of

1811
01:53:11,190 --> 01:53:13,230
the team, so look forward to your presentation.

1812
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:17,150
Thank you, President Miller. Again, my name is Lisa Sereno.

1813
01:53:17,250 --> 01:53:20,590
I'm Assistant Commissioner in the Office of Quality Schools.

1814
01:53:20,650 --> 01:53:24,259
And, with me today is Shaneka Williams, who is our Director of

1815
01:53:24,350 --> 01:53:25,430
Charter Schools.

1816
01:53:26,690 --> 01:53:30,370
We're here to review applications for renewal

1817
01:53:30,630 --> 01:53:34,210
of charters for two schools, and we're going to

1818
01:53:34,250 --> 01:53:36,910
begin with Hope Leadership Academy.

1819
01:53:37,590 --> 01:53:41,110
It's located in Kansas City, and it is sponsored by St.

1820
01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:45,130
Louis University. And so I'd like to introduce the folks from

1821
01:53:46,090 --> 01:53:49,890
SLU who are with us here today. Alexandra Boyd

1822
01:53:49,900 --> 01:53:53,090
is Assistant Dean of School and Community Partnership.

1823
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:57,750
Benton Brown is Assistant Dean of Teacher Education.

1824
01:53:58,910 --> 01:54:01,070
And Casey Shahid

1825
01:54:02,030 --> 01:54:05,350
focuses on leadership in the college.

1826
01:54:05,730 --> 01:54:07,870
Have I got you all correct, doctors?

1827
01:54:08,170 --> 01:54:08,550
Yeah.

1828
01:54:08,570 --> 01:54:08,930
All right.

1829
01:54:10,010 --> 01:54:13,410
Before I turn the presentation over to Shaneka, and then

1830
01:54:13,470 --> 01:54:16,870
ultimately to the sponsors, I just want to outline

1831
01:54:17,370 --> 01:54:20,650
for you what you're going to hear in this presentation.

1832
01:54:22,049 --> 01:54:25,450
Shaneka's going to give you just a brief reminder of how

1833
01:54:25,460 --> 01:54:29,390
renewal fits in with the other charter tasks

1834
01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:33,400
for the department and for you as a state board of education.

1835
01:54:34,850 --> 01:54:38,700
She's going to talk about how DESE reviews the materials and

1836
01:54:38,890 --> 01:54:42,410
looks at the sponsor's renewal decision-making process,

1837
01:54:43,090 --> 01:54:46,650
and hit the high points of the statutory requirements

1838
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:48,990
for renewal considerations.

1839
01:54:50,410 --> 01:54:54,160
She's also going to talk a little bit about our focus on the

1840
01:54:54,250 --> 01:54:58,070
performance expectations in the contract between the

1841
01:54:58,110 --> 01:55:02,010
charter school and the sponsor itself, and how

1842
01:55:02,130 --> 01:55:05,690
we view that in terms of how it plays into the renewal

1843
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:06,330
decision.

1844
01:55:07,330 --> 01:55:11,250
And then one other thing before I turn it over to these

1845
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:12,280
folks is that,

1846
01:55:13,130 --> 01:55:16,990
just a reminder, renewals under statute are authorized

1847
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:20,970
by the sponsors. And in most cases,

1848
01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:25,330
DESE will put these in the consent agenda and present them to

1849
01:55:25,370 --> 01:55:27,350
you as a board for ratification.

1850
01:55:28,970 --> 01:55:31,090
Once in a while, there will be something that

1851
01:55:32,750 --> 01:55:36,570
calls our attention, and we will

1852
01:55:36,610 --> 01:55:40,330
pull those out and actually want this board to

1853
01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:43,250
discuss and review in a little bit more detail.

1854
01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:47,710
And the situation for Hope Leadership Academy, we had

1855
01:55:47,730 --> 01:55:51,170
concerns about the academic category in the performance

1856
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:53,830
contract and the student performance.

1857
01:55:54,410 --> 01:55:54,950
And so,

1858
01:55:56,190 --> 01:55:58,910
Shaneka did ask the sponsor to come and

1859
01:55:59,610 --> 01:56:03,550
describe to you their decision-making process

1860
01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:05,250
around this renewal

1861
01:56:06,582 --> 01:56:10,382
And she's got, as I said, she has some things that she would like to review with

1862
01:56:10,422 --> 01:56:12,282
you. So I'll turn it over to Shanika.

1863
01:56:12,362 --> 01:56:13,382
All right. Thank you.

1864
01:56:15,182 --> 01:56:17,602
So first, let's talk about authority.

1865
01:56:18,802 --> 01:56:22,181
Now, the authority for charter schools is spread

1866
01:56:22,242 --> 01:56:26,142
across multiple entities, from the legislation that

1867
01:56:26,282 --> 01:56:29,922
make the laws and the State Board of Education that enforce those

1868
01:56:29,962 --> 01:56:33,862
laws, and the charter sponsor that oversees and monitors

1869
01:56:33,902 --> 01:56:37,862
the charter school, and the charter school board

1870
01:56:38,002 --> 01:56:39,402
that governs the LEA.

1871
01:56:42,562 --> 01:56:46,062
Today, we are going to focus on the State Board of Education's

1872
01:56:46,182 --> 01:56:49,282
primary role related to sponsor activities.

1873
01:56:49,662 --> 01:56:52,972
And as you can see up here, the State Board reviews and

1874
01:56:53,022 --> 01:56:55,742
approves sponsorship applications,

1875
01:56:56,302 --> 01:57:00,282
enforces regulations when it comes to sponsoring,

1876
01:57:01,002 --> 01:57:04,642
evaluates sponsors every three years or

1877
01:57:05,082 --> 01:57:06,062
for cause.

1878
01:57:07,362 --> 01:57:10,522
SLU's next evaluation is going to be the school year

1879
01:57:10,681 --> 01:57:12,662
'27, '28.

1880
01:57:14,382 --> 01:57:18,152
You also review renewal applications and

1881
01:57:18,202 --> 01:57:20,042
new charter school applications.

1882
01:57:21,202 --> 01:57:24,862
The sponsor is responsible for having a policy and

1883
01:57:24,942 --> 01:57:28,882
process for renewals and new applications,

1884
01:57:29,002 --> 01:57:32,522
and approving those applications before they are sent to DESE,

1885
01:57:33,182 --> 01:57:35,542
and ultimately, the State Board.

1886
01:57:37,482 --> 01:57:39,402
Shall we pause for a question?

1887
01:57:40,402 --> 01:57:41,302
Yes, ma'am. Yes.

1888
01:57:42,202 --> 01:57:43,542
And I'll be brief.

1889
01:57:43,682 --> 01:57:43,822
Mm-hmm.

1890
01:57:44,042 --> 01:57:46,642
So can you clarify for this board,

1891
01:57:47,582 --> 01:57:49,542
in particular, we have a lot of new members,

1892
01:57:50,182 --> 01:57:53,332
precisely what the State Board is

1893
01:57:53,382 --> 01:57:54,732
approving today?

1894
01:57:55,622 --> 01:57:56,382
So, what

1895
01:57:57,262 --> 01:58:00,722
we ask for at the end of each renewal, and you will see the

1896
01:58:00,762 --> 01:58:04,672
language, is basically, we are recommending

1897
01:58:04,722 --> 01:58:07,662
to you the sponsor's recommendation.

1898
01:58:08,282 --> 01:58:11,902
So you are approving that we looked over that

1899
01:58:12,002 --> 01:58:15,302
application, and we saw that there are no statutory

1900
01:58:15,442 --> 01:58:21,622
discrepancies,

1901
01:58:21,842 --> 01:58:25,782
thank you, and that everything checks out, and we're sending

1902
01:58:25,822 --> 01:58:29,472
that to you to say, "Yes, you have met all the

1903
01:58:29,562 --> 01:58:31,522
statutory requirements. We

1904
01:58:31,902 --> 01:58:36,342
will

1905
01:58:36,482 --> 01:58:39,742
send forth the sponsor's approval for this application."

1906
01:58:40,562 --> 01:58:44,402
So basically, you're saying that they met all the statutory requirements

1907
01:58:44,442 --> 01:58:44,851
for that.

1908
01:58:46,062 --> 01:58:49,242
What you do do is when that sponsor is

1909
01:58:49,282 --> 01:58:53,162
evaluated, we also evaluate all renewals that were

1910
01:58:53,322 --> 01:58:57,182
in that timeframe. So we look at the renewals that might have

1911
01:58:57,242 --> 01:59:01,122
seemed a little bit on the line or on the cuff, and we go

1912
01:59:01,182 --> 01:59:04,902
through that process that that sponsor takes, and we evaluate that

1913
01:59:04,922 --> 01:59:08,402
sponsor based on the renewal decisions that they have made.

1914
01:59:09,402 --> 01:59:12,942
So today, the recommendation that we're

1915
01:59:12,982 --> 01:59:15,682
presenting is the sponsor's

1916
01:59:17,482 --> 01:59:19,922
authorization to renew for five years.

1917
01:59:20,042 --> 01:59:23,482
And you will see when you look at the recommendation language and when we get to

1918
01:59:23,542 --> 01:59:23,722
that,

1919
01:59:24,542 --> 01:59:27,922
that language is a little bit different this time than

1920
01:59:28,742 --> 01:59:32,462
is typical. Usually, the language is just we

1921
01:59:33,442 --> 01:59:36,822
present the sponsor's recommendation for renewal for the five-year

1922
01:59:36,902 --> 01:59:37,442
period,

1923
01:59:38,642 --> 01:59:42,202
as outlined in its contract with the charter school.

1924
01:59:42,902 --> 01:59:43,902
In this case,

1925
01:59:45,342 --> 01:59:48,242
we are adding a contingency to that-

1926
01:59:48,662 --> 01:59:48,922
Yes

1927
01:59:49,082 --> 01:59:52,442
... motion, which asks the sponsor to come back

1928
01:59:52,582 --> 01:59:53,142
and

1929
01:59:54,082 --> 01:59:55,582
renew its review

1930
01:59:56,462 --> 02:00:00,282
and provide information to the department and the board after

1931
02:00:00,342 --> 02:00:03,522
the '26, '27 school year.

1932
02:00:03,922 --> 02:00:07,602
So, to keep it really clear and succinct, our yes

1933
02:00:07,702 --> 02:00:09,002
vote today means what?

1934
02:00:09,482 --> 02:00:13,442
Yes vote today means you authorize continuation

1935
02:00:13,582 --> 02:00:15,482
of the charter school.

1936
02:00:15,502 --> 02:00:16,902
And a no vote means?

1937
02:00:18,422 --> 02:00:19,422
No vote would

1938
02:00:21,002 --> 02:00:24,201
mean that you would not ratify the

1939
02:00:24,242 --> 02:00:27,302
sponsor's renewal. State

1940
02:00:27,462 --> 02:00:30,672
statute says that, and I'm

1941
02:00:30,702 --> 02:00:31,572
paraphrasing-

1942
02:00:32,052 --> 02:00:32,052
Mm-hmm

1943
02:00:32,052 --> 02:00:35,242
... if we need Megan to clarify, we can, or Shanika.

1944
02:00:35,302 --> 02:00:35,412
Mm-hmm.

1945
02:00:36,202 --> 02:00:39,502
The state statute says that if the sponsor

1946
02:00:39,512 --> 02:00:43,442
authorizes the renewal, and the department

1947
02:00:43,542 --> 02:00:46,882
and the board find that it's in statutory

1948
02:00:46,942 --> 02:00:50,482
compliance, that the State Board shall approve the renewal.

1949
02:00:50,732 --> 02:00:54,702
And it does say "shall." And so we get all the information and

1950
02:00:54,742 --> 02:00:58,342
the data and the documentation from the sponsor.

1951
02:00:58,682 --> 02:01:02,542
We review that, and using the data requested, and

1952
02:01:02,582 --> 02:01:03,922
this is in Statute

1953
02:01:04,502 --> 02:01:08,382
160.405.9, using the

1954
02:01:08,442 --> 02:01:11,762
data requested and the revised charter application under

1955
02:01:11,842 --> 02:01:15,572
paragraphs A and B of that same statute, the State

1956
02:01:15,682 --> 02:01:19,042
Board of Education shall determine if compliance with all

1957
02:01:19,162 --> 02:01:19,822
standards

1958
02:01:21,142 --> 02:01:24,712
were met in this subsection. The State Board of

1959
02:01:24,782 --> 02:01:28,502
Education, at its regular scheduled meeting, shall vote

1960
02:01:28,682 --> 02:01:30,682
on the revised charter application.

1961
02:01:34,262 --> 02:01:34,682
Thank you.

1962
02:01:37,682 --> 02:01:39,422
So that's where we are currently.

1963
02:01:40,502 --> 02:01:43,242
We have reviewed these charter applications.

1964
02:01:43,722 --> 02:01:45,942
We have also talked to the sponsors.

1965
02:01:46,002 --> 02:01:48,562
So I'm going to talk a little bit about our process as

1966
02:01:48,642 --> 02:01:52,542
well. As you can see, you have the profile for the

1967
02:01:52,562 --> 02:01:56,122
school that is being renewed currently, Hope Leadership Academy.

1968
02:01:56,482 --> 02:01:59,182
They are currently sponsored by St. Louis University.

1969
02:01:59,502 --> 02:02:02,202
Their previous sponsor was the University of Central Missouri.

1970
02:02:02,582 --> 02:02:06,442
So within this five-year contract, the University of Central Missouri

1971
02:02:06,782 --> 02:02:09,982
was sponsoring the school for the first year, and St.

1972
02:02:10,182 --> 02:02:13,162
Louis University took over that contract for the rest of the

1973
02:02:14,142 --> 02:02:14,502
term

1974
02:02:15,386 --> 02:02:19,206
Our process in the office of DESE is to get the application from the

1975
02:02:19,266 --> 02:02:22,636
sponsor. We look through the application for

1976
02:02:22,646 --> 02:02:26,556
compliance to statute, making sure that they have met all

1977
02:02:26,606 --> 02:02:26,906
the

1978
02:02:27,706 --> 02:02:31,036
regulations that they should meet as far as the renewal goes.

1979
02:02:31,646 --> 02:02:35,626
After review, we go back to the sponsor and ask any lingering

1980
02:02:35,746 --> 02:02:39,266
questions. Is there something that we saw that wasn't

1981
02:02:39,366 --> 02:02:41,046
quite up to standard?

1982
02:02:41,866 --> 02:02:45,676
Does the data look a little iffy? We will talk to the sponsor about

1983
02:02:45,676 --> 02:02:47,686
that, and we will start to

1984
02:02:48,746 --> 02:02:50,916
look for ways that they could either

1985
02:02:52,306 --> 02:02:55,626
not go back, but go forward, looking at their

1986
02:02:55,686 --> 02:02:57,536
contracts and looking at

1987
02:02:58,366 --> 02:03:02,056
their performance goals and what that looks like moving forward.

1988
02:03:02,986 --> 02:03:06,946
Because by the time the application gets to us, the sponsor has made

1989
02:03:06,966 --> 02:03:07,715
their decision,

1990
02:03:08,646 --> 02:03:08,976
and

1991
02:03:09,846 --> 02:03:13,766
their decision to renew. If it's a decision not to renew, we wouldn't get

1992
02:03:13,806 --> 02:03:14,726
an application.

1993
02:03:21,346 --> 02:03:24,486
So here you will see enrollment for Hope Leadership Academy.

1994
02:03:24,906 --> 02:03:28,706
It remained around 100 plus students for the last five

1995
02:03:28,786 --> 02:03:32,706
years. Now, one of the questions that we talked about with the sponsor

1996
02:03:32,766 --> 02:03:36,586
is that Hope has put in a request to

1997
02:03:36,626 --> 02:03:39,526
increase enrollment next school year to 300.

1998
02:03:39,986 --> 02:03:43,326
We will discuss that a little further on in the renewal,

1999
02:03:44,226 --> 02:03:48,026
but the sponsor is also ready to discuss that as

2000
02:03:48,126 --> 02:03:48,446
well.

2001
02:03:52,746 --> 02:03:54,986
Here, you will see the demographics for the school.

2002
02:03:55,166 --> 02:03:58,266
All this is the same in both renewals, so you will see this

2003
02:03:58,326 --> 02:04:01,866
information. And again, this information is

2004
02:04:02,346 --> 02:04:04,406
for informational purposes only.

2005
02:04:04,526 --> 02:04:08,486
It is not necessarily something that the sponsor looks at when they're making

2006
02:04:08,506 --> 02:04:09,786
their decision to renew.

2007
02:04:13,026 --> 02:04:16,936
This is 90/90 attendance. Now, this is the

2008
02:04:17,026 --> 02:04:18,846
school, Hope Leadership Academy,

2009
02:04:20,426 --> 02:04:24,206
beside Missouri as a whole. This is not something that the

2010
02:04:24,246 --> 02:04:27,666
sponsor would normally look at, but the sponsor does take into

2011
02:04:27,686 --> 02:04:31,626
consideration the 90/90 attendance of its schools,

2012
02:04:31,866 --> 02:04:35,786
and the sponsor has already talked about things that the school is currently

2013
02:04:35,796 --> 02:04:39,186
working on to raise attendance. They're looking at

2014
02:04:39,746 --> 02:04:43,186
a three-tier system that they're going to be working on, Hope is going to be

2015
02:04:43,266 --> 02:04:47,026
working on. So the sponsor has discussed these changes with the school

2016
02:04:47,046 --> 02:04:47,586
already.

2017
02:04:51,186 --> 02:04:55,006
This is your assessment slide, and

2018
02:04:55,166 --> 02:04:58,246
so it talks about the performance of Hope Leadership Academy,

2019
02:04:59,126 --> 02:05:01,026
KCPS, and Missouri.

2020
02:05:01,986 --> 02:05:05,976
Now, again, a lot of these things the sponsor does not look at when it comes

2021
02:05:06,046 --> 02:05:08,466
to making a decision, or they may consider.

2022
02:05:09,106 --> 02:05:12,666
But one of the things that the sponsor has to consider, and is in

2023
02:05:12,746 --> 02:05:16,366
statute, is how the school stacks up to the local district,

2024
02:05:16,806 --> 02:05:20,166
not the state. So that state part is just for your

2025
02:05:20,226 --> 02:05:22,806
information, and this is performance data.

2026
02:05:26,486 --> 02:05:28,066
You see the same in math as well.

2027
02:05:30,406 --> 02:05:31,186
Can we pause there?

2028
02:05:31,246 --> 02:05:31,386
Yep.

2029
02:05:31,806 --> 02:05:35,576
Just one thing before you move on. I was trying to get this with attendance.

2030
02:05:35,646 --> 02:05:39,386
Could you just very quickly explain what the 90/90 attendance rule is in case

2031
02:05:39,446 --> 02:05:42,926
that's not clear? It's part of the accountability system.

2032
02:05:42,966 --> 02:05:43,526
Sure.

2033
02:05:44,046 --> 02:05:45,326
Just a sentence or two.

2034
02:05:45,426 --> 02:05:45,656
It's

2035
02:05:46,466 --> 02:05:47,246
a measure

2036
02:05:48,106 --> 02:05:48,346
of--

2037
02:05:50,866 --> 02:05:52,296
The goal is that

2038
02:05:53,446 --> 02:05:57,306
90% of our students are, 90% or more, are

2039
02:05:57,486 --> 02:06:01,306
in school 90% or more of the time,

2040
02:06:02,006 --> 02:06:02,606
attending school.

2041
02:06:03,526 --> 02:06:07,466
Anything above 10% is

2042
02:06:07,526 --> 02:06:09,306
considered chronic absenteeism.

2043
02:06:09,946 --> 02:06:13,246
So that 90% benchmark is an

2044
02:06:13,306 --> 02:06:14,286
important one.

2045
02:06:15,166 --> 02:06:18,766
It is one of those things that is also reviewed with the

2046
02:06:18,786 --> 02:06:22,026
APR score, so it's a part of that whole thing.

2047
02:06:23,066 --> 02:06:24,206
So could I just follow up on-

2048
02:06:24,235 --> 02:06:24,256
Mm-hmm

2049
02:06:24,256 --> 02:06:27,006
... that a little bit? So I was kind of impressed that

2050
02:06:29,206 --> 02:06:33,166
academically, they seemed to be either equal to or

2051
02:06:33,406 --> 02:06:35,126
above the local public school.

2052
02:06:36,106 --> 02:06:39,846
But with a 90% being out of compliance

2053
02:06:39,856 --> 02:06:40,146
there,

2054
02:06:41,746 --> 02:06:45,566
I mean, I know that that's a chronic issue in public schools and charter

2055
02:06:45,646 --> 02:06:47,066
schools probably as well. But

2056
02:06:48,126 --> 02:06:52,046
what are they doing to bring those students up who are chronically

2057
02:06:52,226 --> 02:06:52,336
absent?

2058
02:06:52,386 --> 02:06:55,466
Well, that's a great question, and that's one of those questions that we talked to

2059
02:06:55,506 --> 02:06:58,986
the sponsor about. So maybe Alexandra, can you talk about the

2060
02:06:59,446 --> 02:07:02,006
three-tiered monitoring or

2061
02:07:03,346 --> 02:07:07,226
three-tiered chronic absenteeism system that they're working on?

2062
02:07:07,686 --> 02:07:10,496
Yeah. Thank you so much. Alexandra Boyd, St.

2063
02:07:10,666 --> 02:07:14,186
Louis University. So the school

2064
02:07:14,266 --> 02:07:17,626
is very much aware of the attendance

2065
02:07:17,666 --> 02:07:21,166
concerns. The students are in pre-K

2066
02:07:21,246 --> 02:07:23,506
five, and I will note that

2067
02:07:25,266 --> 02:07:28,986
pre-K students, this was their first year having pre-K, and so getting that

2068
02:07:30,326 --> 02:07:31,086
kind of

2069
02:07:32,086 --> 02:07:33,126
routine in place

2070
02:07:34,166 --> 02:07:37,586
did take a while. But they're going to essentially have a

2071
02:07:37,646 --> 02:07:41,186
three-tiered assessment to do

2072
02:07:41,206 --> 02:07:44,716
school-wide. Tier one is school-wide incentives for everybody, positive

2073
02:07:44,766 --> 02:07:48,406
recognition, consistent communication with parents and things like that for

2074
02:07:48,466 --> 02:07:52,206
attendance. Tier two is conferences with families who

2075
02:07:52,266 --> 02:07:55,566
might be starting to get close to that

2076
02:07:55,636 --> 02:07:56,486
10%

2077
02:07:57,446 --> 02:08:01,196
high absenteeism rate, and they will have those, and

2078
02:08:01,346 --> 02:08:05,186
kind of improvement plans, and ways to support the family

2079
02:08:05,206 --> 02:08:08,266
should there be barriers to them getting their children to school

2080
02:08:09,066 --> 02:08:12,946
on time. And then tier three, they will use individualized

2081
02:08:13,026 --> 02:08:16,570
support and intensive case management So they will use

2082
02:08:17,330 --> 02:08:20,770
a little team to support acute needs in terms

2083
02:08:20,930 --> 02:08:23,790
of supporting attendance across the school.

2084
02:08:24,850 --> 02:08:27,170
They're going to conduct weekly reviews,

2085
02:08:28,370 --> 02:08:31,590
and they're going to do same-day outreach phone calls

2086
02:08:32,370 --> 02:08:35,630
with structured follow-up within 48 hours

2087
02:08:35,850 --> 02:08:37,710
of students missing.

2088
02:08:38,710 --> 02:08:42,570
And then they'll also have established grade-level attendance goals and monitor

2089
02:08:42,590 --> 02:08:45,210
progress and celebrate success there.

2090
02:08:45,290 --> 02:08:49,030
So those are their plans for improving attendance

2091
02:08:49,130 --> 02:08:49,450
rates.

2092
02:08:49,990 --> 02:08:53,750
And these are some of the things that we talk about during the renewal

2093
02:08:53,870 --> 02:08:57,590
application process. So when we meet with the sponsor and we see

2094
02:08:57,610 --> 02:09:00,390
these things, we go back and say, "So what is going on?

2095
02:09:00,470 --> 02:09:01,850
What have you talked about with the school?

2096
02:09:01,930 --> 02:09:03,570
What is changing

2097
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:08,230
that you see that makes you want to renew this school?" And the

2098
02:09:08,270 --> 02:09:10,590
sponsor's going to talk a lot more about that later.

2099
02:09:10,970 --> 02:09:11,470
And also,

2100
02:09:12,610 --> 02:09:16,530
on these measures, how does a sponsor hold the school accountable for these

2101
02:09:16,570 --> 02:09:16,790
things?

2102
02:09:16,850 --> 02:09:17,180
Absolutely.

2103
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:18,830
Are they part of that performance contract?

2104
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:24,430
Thank you. I guess a question on attendance, and maybe it

2105
02:09:24,470 --> 02:09:28,330
goes to the authority of a charter school, but if you have students

2106
02:09:28,370 --> 02:09:28,950
who are

2107
02:09:30,990 --> 02:09:33,270
at school less than 50% of the time,

2108
02:09:34,290 --> 02:09:37,890
does the school have a

2109
02:09:37,950 --> 02:09:39,070
mechanism to

2110
02:09:40,650 --> 02:09:44,540
get rid of that student? I'm not saying get rid of

2111
02:09:44,570 --> 02:09:46,670
the student, but what happens, right?

2112
02:09:46,710 --> 02:09:50,570
If you have students attending a charter school and they're only showing up one or

2113
02:09:50,610 --> 02:09:51,390
two days a week,

2114
02:09:52,430 --> 02:09:56,330
and I think a lot of charter schools have some kind of lottery process to get

2115
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:56,900
into them,

2116
02:09:58,470 --> 02:10:02,430
you probably have a long waiting list of students whose attendance might be better.

2117
02:10:02,690 --> 02:10:04,010
How does that work?

2118
02:10:04,130 --> 02:10:05,730
Yeah. That's a really great question.

2119
02:10:05,850 --> 02:10:09,490
I just want to point out that this chart is saying that

2120
02:10:10,590 --> 02:10:14,290
56% of the students attend 90% of the time,

2121
02:10:14,770 --> 02:10:16,810
not that they attend 50% of the time.

2122
02:10:17,950 --> 02:10:18,750
And so

2123
02:10:20,530 --> 02:10:23,790
I think it's the same for all public schools in the state, right?

2124
02:10:24,290 --> 02:10:28,150
You have an attendance problem, you work to support the family to

2125
02:10:28,190 --> 02:10:32,170
see what the problem is. If attendance persists, you could work with a

2126
02:10:32,210 --> 02:10:35,730
truancy officer if that's the right way to go.

2127
02:10:35,750 --> 02:10:37,990
And then if the

2128
02:10:39,670 --> 02:10:43,050
family and the student don't come after...

2129
02:10:43,790 --> 02:10:46,630
I get my states mixed up. I've been in a couple of states doing this work.

2130
02:10:47,790 --> 02:10:51,770
I think it's 10 days. If they're gone for more than 10 consecutive days, you

2131
02:10:51,850 --> 02:10:53,910
can un-enroll that student.

2132
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:55,530
That's for 10 consecutive days.

2133
02:10:55,630 --> 02:10:56,510
Yeah, and that's for any

2134
02:10:57,350 --> 02:10:58,070
school district.

2135
02:10:58,770 --> 02:10:59,070
Thank you.

2136
02:10:59,890 --> 02:11:00,510
President Miller.

2137
02:11:01,510 --> 02:11:02,230
I've got a question.

2138
02:11:04,070 --> 02:11:07,510
What percentage of these days would you say are a family

2139
02:11:07,550 --> 02:11:11,500
vacation or a doctor's appointment or things of that nature that

2140
02:11:11,530 --> 02:11:14,770
could be put into this data that would swing it one way or another?

2141
02:11:15,950 --> 02:11:18,610
I don't have that

2142
02:11:19,570 --> 02:11:23,490
level of data. What I would suspect, though, just from having my own

2143
02:11:23,530 --> 02:11:27,210
child in elementary school, is that a majority of it

2144
02:11:27,330 --> 02:11:31,190
is them being sick or because they're a

2145
02:11:31,230 --> 02:11:34,650
small child, their parents might be sick and might not be able to make it.

2146
02:11:35,550 --> 02:11:38,290
And I'm clearly biased. My son has asthma, so that's why he's

2147
02:11:39,490 --> 02:11:40,450
out more than he should be.

2148
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:42,670
Oh, thank you for answering that. So

2149
02:11:43,490 --> 02:11:47,350
what I'm hearing is there's no quantifiable data that

2150
02:11:47,410 --> 02:11:48,150
you all have.

2151
02:11:48,430 --> 02:11:49,520
The data exists-

2152
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:49,680
Okay

2153
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:51,780
... I just don't have that level of detail in front of me right now.

2154
02:11:51,790 --> 02:11:52,450
Got you. Okay.

2155
02:11:52,490 --> 02:11:52,690
Yes.

2156
02:11:52,710 --> 02:11:53,490
No, thank you.

2157
02:11:54,510 --> 02:11:55,610
Mrs. Casey.

2158
02:11:55,630 --> 02:11:59,590
Thank you, President Miller, and I'd like to address this both to

2159
02:11:59,990 --> 02:12:02,030
the full board, but also our new commissioner.

2160
02:12:03,010 --> 02:12:06,810
Attendance and chronic absenteeism is a critical concern, as has

2161
02:12:06,850 --> 02:12:08,890
been noted by many here,

2162
02:12:09,870 --> 02:12:13,090
not only across the state of Missouri, but across the nation.

2163
02:12:13,150 --> 02:12:16,590
We've raised it in past meetings. We've heard from different

2164
02:12:16,650 --> 02:12:20,090
schools on the three-tier plan on various

2165
02:12:20,150 --> 02:12:23,230
mechanisms where they have been successful.

2166
02:12:24,450 --> 02:12:28,250
Not necessarily, though, utilized in all schools, and maybe

2167
02:12:28,310 --> 02:12:30,290
not all consistently successful.

2168
02:12:31,010 --> 02:12:34,770
What I want to recommend, there is a

2169
02:12:34,870 --> 02:12:38,610
lot of work being done, in particular by one

2170
02:12:38,650 --> 02:12:40,530
organization called Attendance Works,

2171
02:12:41,410 --> 02:12:44,470
and that we take this into either our retreat

2172
02:12:44,570 --> 02:12:47,990
or a planned future discussion

2173
02:12:48,590 --> 02:12:52,530
where we, one, delve into this issue with very good

2174
02:12:52,650 --> 02:12:56,310
data from around the state on what's happening with chronic

2175
02:12:56,330 --> 02:13:00,010
absenteeism across our districts, where programs are

2176
02:13:00,050 --> 02:13:03,750
working, where they're not, why is the absenteeism occurring.

2177
02:13:04,030 --> 02:13:07,810
Just do a thorough analysis, and we also then work and

2178
02:13:07,930 --> 02:13:11,470
partner with Attendance Works to understand the work that's been done in the other

2179
02:13:11,550 --> 02:13:15,290
states and the recommendations, and just really bring

2180
02:13:15,370 --> 02:13:19,090
this issue to the forefront, not only for us as a board,

2181
02:13:19,670 --> 02:13:21,050
but for our legislature.

2182
02:13:22,210 --> 02:13:25,890
There are policy changes that I believe will be effective here,

2183
02:13:26,450 --> 02:13:29,670
and also for our communities. It really

2184
02:13:29,710 --> 02:13:33,370
bears us shining a spotlight on this throughout the

2185
02:13:33,450 --> 02:13:36,990
state at the importance of this issue and what can be done to

2186
02:13:37,130 --> 02:13:38,950
address it and ideally fix it.

2187
02:13:40,290 --> 02:13:42,890
Okay. Any other comments? We kind of got off track-

2188
02:13:43,270 --> 02:13:43,630
You're fine

2189
02:13:43,870 --> 02:13:44,750
... from your approval, but-

2190
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:48,770
I guess I would like to comment. So I just completed a white paper around chronic

2191
02:13:48,850 --> 02:13:50,910
absenteeism. It's in draft format,

2192
02:13:51,950 --> 02:13:53,690
and where we looked at some schools in the St.

2193
02:13:53,730 --> 02:13:57,520
Louis area, but it forced us to also look at some of those organizations,

2194
02:13:58,330 --> 02:14:02,210
Spark Well, Attendance Works, just to see what was happening, and

2195
02:14:02,270 --> 02:14:04,590
you're absolutely correct. It is nationwide.

2196
02:14:04,610 --> 02:14:06,550
And so we are hearing from

2197
02:14:07,470 --> 02:14:09,770
students, we heard from district leaders.

2198
02:14:10,170 --> 02:14:14,130
No matter if it was an affluent community or a not so

2199
02:14:14,290 --> 02:14:16,420
affluent community, we saw some of the same trends.

2200
02:14:16,710 --> 02:14:19,690
But I would love to, when you have your retreat, maybe we'll have time.

2201
02:14:19,750 --> 02:14:23,290
Maybe our draft will be in final format. I can share that.

2202
02:14:23,330 --> 02:14:27,250
And also, the SLU PRIME Center has current research around

2203
02:14:27,870 --> 02:14:31,770
chronic absenteeism as well, and we can possibly get that to you so it could be a

2204
02:14:31,790 --> 02:14:32,590
discussion point.

2205
02:14:32,910 --> 02:14:33,270
Thank you.

2206
02:14:33,330 --> 02:14:33,730
You're welcome.

2207
02:14:35,482 --> 02:14:37,962
So on this slide, you will see

2208
02:14:39,382 --> 02:14:42,962
renewal requirements. Like I said, the previous slides are

2209
02:14:43,462 --> 02:14:47,042
really more informational than they are the requirements that the

2210
02:14:47,082 --> 02:14:51,022
sponsor actually looks at when it comes to making these decisions.

2211
02:14:51,082 --> 02:14:54,642
So this is what we review when the application comes to us,

2212
02:14:55,162 --> 02:14:58,882
including the data that DESE provides to all public schools.

2213
02:14:59,702 --> 02:15:02,912
So fiscal viability, academic record, and compliance.

2214
02:15:03,282 --> 02:15:07,122
Now, where we saw an issue was the academic record, and this

2215
02:15:07,162 --> 02:15:10,402
prompted us to, you'll see at the end when we come to our

2216
02:15:10,442 --> 02:15:14,222
recommendation, make more of an adjustment to the recommendation,

2217
02:15:15,402 --> 02:15:19,222
and talk to the sponsor about what this looks like moving forward.

2218
02:15:19,522 --> 02:15:23,352
Because of course you can't change anything that has already been done, but what

2219
02:15:23,382 --> 02:15:27,362
does this look like moving forward in the process that they see

2220
02:15:27,422 --> 02:15:28,802
with Hope Leadership Academy?

2221
02:15:30,002 --> 02:15:32,142
So part of that is looking at finance.

2222
02:15:32,482 --> 02:15:35,762
Now you will see here that in the capital

2223
02:15:35,822 --> 02:15:39,402
expenditures we see in school year '22 and '25,

2224
02:15:39,842 --> 02:15:40,342
there wasn't

2225
02:15:41,162 --> 02:15:42,182
anything there. And so,

2226
02:15:43,082 --> 02:15:46,762
part of our talking to the sponsor, we talked about what could have happened there.

2227
02:15:47,222 --> 02:15:50,702
And the school explains it could have been some equipment,

2228
02:15:50,782 --> 02:15:54,262
technology, furniture, or other qualifying purchases were

2229
02:15:54,322 --> 02:15:57,482
categorized under different expenditure codes.

2230
02:15:57,842 --> 02:16:01,582
But fundraising efforts have been happening, and intentional investment have

2231
02:16:01,622 --> 02:16:04,402
increased the per pupil expenditures.

2232
02:16:04,752 --> 02:16:06,762
So you'll see that there as well.

2233
02:16:09,742 --> 02:16:13,402
And of course, all schools need to have that 3% fund balance

2234
02:16:13,562 --> 02:16:17,342
minimum, and as you can see, the school was above that for at

2235
02:16:17,382 --> 02:16:19,662
least four out of the five years of this contract.

2236
02:16:21,742 --> 02:16:25,722
Now this is where we get to the things that the sponsor looks at

2237
02:16:25,822 --> 02:16:29,802
and meets with the school about. This is what is known as their

2238
02:16:29,942 --> 02:16:33,423
annual report or annual review with the school.

2239
02:16:33,582 --> 02:16:37,122
Every sponsor has one, but every sponsor does it a little

2240
02:16:37,162 --> 02:16:40,673
differently. Now there are baseline things that they look at in these

2241
02:16:40,683 --> 02:16:43,582
performance goals, including the things listed here.

2242
02:16:44,843 --> 02:16:48,382
You will see Mets or Not Mets or Partially Mets.

2243
02:16:48,742 --> 02:16:52,263
This is the way that we simplify some of the performance

2244
02:16:52,923 --> 02:16:56,302
information that the sponsors provide for us, but each

2245
02:16:56,382 --> 02:16:58,862
sponsor tweaks theirs a little bit differently.

2246
02:16:59,442 --> 02:17:02,562
So we're going to talk about those Partially Mets and Not Met.

2247
02:17:02,882 --> 02:17:05,252
And Shanika, you might go back for just a minute.

2248
02:17:05,372 --> 02:17:05,372
Mm-hmm.

2249
02:17:05,402 --> 02:17:08,731
So it is true, correct, that each of those

2250
02:17:08,782 --> 02:17:11,632
categories, academics, financial management, down through

2251
02:17:11,722 --> 02:17:15,142
operations, we see those evaluated by every sponsor-

2252
02:17:15,202 --> 02:17:16,062
Every sponsor

2253
02:17:16,202 --> 02:17:16,212
... every time.

2254
02:17:16,222 --> 02:17:16,532
Mm-hmm.

2255
02:17:16,862 --> 02:17:16,972
Thank you.

2256
02:17:17,023 --> 02:17:19,622
Correct. We see these things every time.

2257
02:17:20,183 --> 02:17:20,472
Now,

2258
02:17:21,642 --> 02:17:25,423
the way that they look at how they're going to

2259
02:17:25,482 --> 02:17:28,142
monitor those things may be different with each sponsor.

2260
02:17:28,702 --> 02:17:32,142
So it might not be as simplified as I'm making it here, but

2261
02:17:32,202 --> 02:17:35,902
this is why we added the slide to talk a little bit more about the

2262
02:17:35,942 --> 02:17:39,832
Partially Mets and Not Mets, so you can understand what the sponsor was looking

2263
02:17:39,902 --> 02:17:40,103
at.

2264
02:17:46,142 --> 02:17:47,482
So you can see that

2265
02:17:48,622 --> 02:17:52,402
Hope Leadership Academy, again, didn't meet all of

2266
02:17:52,442 --> 02:17:53,502
their academic

2267
02:17:54,642 --> 02:17:58,183
performance goals. And so the

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02:17:58,282 --> 02:18:02,002
sponsor has looked at this issue, has talked to the school

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02:18:02,082 --> 02:18:05,442
about it, has made some changes when it comes to their performance

2270
02:18:05,523 --> 02:18:08,702
contract and the measurements that they're going to look at, and also the

2271
02:18:08,763 --> 02:18:12,353
consequences that will happen if they're not meeting their performance

2272
02:18:12,442 --> 02:18:16,142
goals. So the sponsor's going to talk a lot more about that, a lot more

2273
02:18:16,183 --> 02:18:17,122
than I can.

2274
02:18:21,942 --> 02:18:24,902
Then we also look at the new performance contract.

2275
02:18:24,962 --> 02:18:28,222
So how does this stack up to what was the

2276
02:18:28,302 --> 02:18:32,162
current performance contract? And you will see the way SLU sets

2277
02:18:32,222 --> 02:18:34,683
theirs up, they actually have three

2278
02:18:35,502 --> 02:18:39,322
sections. So they have a standard, the measurements and evidence that they're going

2279
02:18:39,362 --> 02:18:42,062
to look at for that standard, and then they also have what

2280
02:18:42,103 --> 02:18:45,763
will happen if they do not make these

2281
02:18:45,822 --> 02:18:49,742
outcomes. What do we plan on doing if the school

2282
02:18:49,782 --> 02:18:51,641
themself do not make these outcomes?

2283
02:18:51,701 --> 02:18:54,022
And again, the sponsor's going to talk a lot more about that.

2284
02:18:54,522 --> 02:18:58,162
But these are some of the things that you will see in all sponsors' performance

2285
02:18:58,263 --> 02:19:02,042
goals. When we talk about achievement goals, looking at MAP, you

2286
02:19:02,103 --> 02:19:05,062
talk about growth, and you look at curriculum.

2287
02:19:05,142 --> 02:19:06,882
A lot of sponsors look at these things.

2288
02:19:06,923 --> 02:19:09,802
They just may look at them in a different way.

2289
02:19:15,202 --> 02:19:18,263
So now here's our recommendation, and Lisa Sereno talked a little bit about

2290
02:19:21,442 --> 02:19:24,933
this at the beginning. And this is where the

2291
02:19:24,962 --> 02:19:28,822
department presents SLU's recommendation for the State

2292
02:19:28,982 --> 02:19:32,742
Board of Education to authorize Hope Leadership Academy to

2293
02:19:32,802 --> 02:19:36,542
continue operations pursuant to the charter's renewal

2294
02:19:36,662 --> 02:19:38,162
granted by SLU.

2295
02:19:40,162 --> 02:19:44,142
And what we would like to see is for SLU to come back

2296
02:19:44,162 --> 02:19:47,942
and give us an updated report once they get the data from the

2297
02:19:47,962 --> 02:19:51,562
'26, '27 school year, which we're currently in.

2298
02:19:52,202 --> 02:19:56,162
Now, this is important because a lot of times we never get to see that fifth

2299
02:19:56,222 --> 02:19:59,982
year of data in these contracts because the contracts end

2300
02:20:00,162 --> 02:20:03,962
in June. So we look at only four years of data.

2301
02:20:04,492 --> 02:20:08,302
But this, when SLU comes back, you will get to see that fifth year of data in that

2302
02:20:08,362 --> 02:20:11,002
contract and how the school has performed.

2303
02:20:11,302 --> 02:20:13,962
So they're going to come back and tell us all about that.

2304
02:20:14,902 --> 02:20:16,902
Now, Alexandra

2305
02:20:18,822 --> 02:20:22,662
Boyd and her team will take over from here to provide more

2306
02:20:22,722 --> 02:20:26,502
specifics in the information that I gave, especially about the

2307
02:20:26,522 --> 02:20:30,202
performance contracts and the reasons why they wanted to renew Hope

2308
02:20:30,262 --> 02:20:32,382
Leadership Academy.

2309
02:20:36,730 --> 02:20:39,210
Thank you, Shaneka and Lisa.

2310
02:20:41,050 --> 02:20:44,510
While we were on break, you'll see we handed out some

2311
02:20:45,870 --> 02:20:48,290
slides for you guys. Is it on here too?

2312
02:20:48,590 --> 02:20:50,130
He's pausing it.

2313
02:20:50,170 --> 02:20:50,510
Okay.

2314
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:51,190
Putting it up now.

2315
02:20:54,530 --> 02:20:58,430
You should have a copy of our latest

2316
02:20:58,440 --> 02:21:02,090
annual report for the Office of School and Community Partnerships.

2317
02:21:02,970 --> 02:21:06,470
This highlights the work that we do in our charter authorizing

2318
02:21:06,610 --> 02:21:09,230
office, and also with our schools.

2319
02:21:09,419 --> 02:21:12,010
And then you also have printed out a slide deck,

2320
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:15,510
but it'll be on-screen too to follow along.

2321
02:21:15,550 --> 02:21:19,410
And then there's also a letter of support in there from Black KC,

2322
02:21:20,410 --> 02:21:23,390
which is a community-focused

2323
02:21:23,890 --> 02:21:27,010
nonprofit in the Kansas City area.

2324
02:21:27,710 --> 02:21:29,090
So those are the things you have.

2325
02:21:32,490 --> 02:21:35,990
Before I get started, I just want to mention that our Dean,

2326
02:21:36,190 --> 02:21:40,170
Gary Ritter, and then the Executive Director of SLU Prime,

2327
02:21:40,850 --> 02:21:44,770
Colin Hitt, who usually attend these meetings with me, they

2328
02:21:45,390 --> 02:21:49,189
send their regrets, but they are at a national convening to talk about

2329
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:51,250
growth measures. And so

2330
02:21:53,070 --> 02:21:56,470
I got to get the Avengers on my team this time with Dr.

2331
02:21:56,690 --> 02:21:59,490
Brown and Dr. Shaheed. So thank you guys for joining us.

2332
02:22:00,890 --> 02:22:04,870
So I'll walk you through why SLU is renewing HLA, Hope Leadership

2333
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:08,320
Academy. It's a great question, and I'm looking forward to answering it.

2334
02:22:09,330 --> 02:22:13,000
I want to talk to you a little bit first about the Office for School and Community

2335
02:22:13,130 --> 02:22:16,870
Partnerships and our commitment and our strategic support for the

2336
02:22:16,890 --> 02:22:18,130
schools in our portfolio.

2337
02:22:19,430 --> 02:22:23,070
Talk about Hope's positive response to accountability so far,

2338
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:26,410
their growing community engagement and investments.

2339
02:22:27,410 --> 02:22:30,970
Talk about the way they are exceeding growth expectations,

2340
02:22:31,850 --> 02:22:35,610
and also talk about the relative opportunities for

2341
02:22:35,890 --> 02:22:39,750
students if Hope Leadership Academy didn't exist, where they would likely

2342
02:22:39,770 --> 02:22:42,950
attend, and then conclude with our high-stakes,

2343
02:22:43,070 --> 02:22:46,030
high-priority contract goals. There are many of them.

2344
02:22:46,290 --> 02:22:50,139
I pulled a few out for our discussion

2345
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:50,450
today.

2346
02:22:51,890 --> 02:22:53,890
So first of all,

2347
02:22:54,970 --> 02:22:58,630
our commitment is to build intentional

2348
02:22:58,710 --> 02:23:01,810
partnerships that increase high-quality Pre-K 12 seats.

2349
02:23:02,350 --> 02:23:06,250
We like to sponsor schools that are innovative and schools that

2350
02:23:06,310 --> 02:23:09,630
serve students who are traditionally

2351
02:23:09,690 --> 02:23:13,430
marginalized, and we would love if we could do both in one

2352
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:13,910
school.

2353
02:23:16,090 --> 02:23:19,120
The strategic supports we offer are we work with

2354
02:23:19,170 --> 02:23:22,680
our high-quality schools, we work with them on expansion and

2355
02:23:22,730 --> 02:23:26,630
replication. As you all know, we were here a couple of months

2356
02:23:26,690 --> 02:23:29,630
ago asking to expand Frontier into Columbia,

2357
02:23:31,210 --> 02:23:34,650
and that's an example of a replication for us.

2358
02:23:35,130 --> 02:23:38,350
Then we also work around either turnaround or closure.

2359
02:23:38,430 --> 02:23:42,310
So if there's a school that's not quite as high quality as we would like it to be,

2360
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:46,410
we will work with that school to see if we need to move towards turnaround, if

2361
02:23:46,450 --> 02:23:50,210
there are assets there, or if things are too far

2362
02:23:50,270 --> 02:23:51,850
gone and we need to move to closure.

2363
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:56,110
We also support with professional development.

2364
02:23:56,950 --> 02:24:00,800
Plugging right now on July 22nd through 24th, we're

2365
02:24:00,870 --> 02:24:03,210
having a Summer Learning Institute at St.

2366
02:24:03,410 --> 02:24:07,310
Louis University hosted by my office that's free to anybody

2367
02:24:07,350 --> 02:24:10,010
who wants to come. So you guys are welcome to join us.

2368
02:24:11,530 --> 02:24:14,950
We also host for our portfolio

2369
02:24:15,090 --> 02:24:15,590
schools,

2370
02:24:16,910 --> 02:24:19,170
a connection point called Roots and Reach. And Dr.

2371
02:24:19,350 --> 02:24:21,650
Shaheed, would you tell us a little bit about Roots and Reach?

2372
02:24:22,270 --> 02:24:26,150
Sure. It's a quarterly convening with our executive directors and school

2373
02:24:26,190 --> 02:24:29,810
leaders so that we can meet around sharing best

2374
02:24:29,820 --> 02:24:33,620
practices as it relates to MSIP 6. So our last meeting was

2375
02:24:33,690 --> 02:24:37,070
around board governance, and what it looks like is almost like a

2376
02:24:38,390 --> 02:24:42,230
fireside chat where our executive directors are talking about their school.

2377
02:24:42,270 --> 02:24:46,190
So whether it's the executive director of Frontier or Academy Lafayette,

2378
02:24:46,530 --> 02:24:50,150
where Hope and our other schools in our portfolio can ask those intimate questions

2379
02:24:50,310 --> 02:24:53,430
and really learn side by side. And so we believe

2380
02:24:53,790 --> 02:24:56,490
excellence is about sharing and collaboration.

2381
02:24:56,549 --> 02:24:59,110
So that's the purpose of the Roots and Reach convening.

2382
02:24:59,530 --> 02:25:03,090
Thank you, Dr. Shaheed. And we're looking into expanding that down

2383
02:25:03,210 --> 02:25:05,760
to the middle management roles as well.

2384
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:09,460
So past the executive directors to the instructional coaches, the

2385
02:25:09,530 --> 02:25:12,090
special ed directors, things of that nature.

2386
02:25:12,750 --> 02:25:15,810
Then we also have the GAINS cohort, which is running

2387
02:25:16,790 --> 02:25:20,270
in collaboration with SLU Prime and School Smart Kansas City

2388
02:25:20,390 --> 02:25:23,530
and the Community Foundation in St. Louis.

2389
02:25:24,010 --> 02:25:27,730
What we're doing there is we have found schools that are extremely

2390
02:25:27,850 --> 02:25:31,770
high growth, and most of them with high direct certification numbers or high

2391
02:25:31,850 --> 02:25:35,770
free and reduced lunch numbers to figure out what it is that they're doing

2392
02:25:35,790 --> 02:25:39,190
to get that high growth and see if it's something that can be replicated in other

2393
02:25:39,230 --> 02:25:40,150
parts of the state.

2394
02:25:42,530 --> 02:25:45,790
And then, of course, our charter portfolio schools will be

2395
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:49,710
one of the first audiences for that report when it comes out.

2396
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:54,610
And then Dr. Brown, could you talk about our support for

2397
02:25:54,670 --> 02:25:55,580
teacher certification?

2398
02:25:55,990 --> 02:25:56,710
Absolutely.

2399
02:25:57,750 --> 02:26:01,300
So one of the things at SLU that we believe strongly in is

2400
02:26:01,570 --> 02:26:02,970
supporting diverse teacher

2401
02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:05,630
certification pathways.

2402
02:26:06,490 --> 02:26:10,410
You may have heard that we recently expanded to an online program

2403
02:26:10,450 --> 02:26:13,730
that supports both St. Louis and Kansas City and the entire state,

2404
02:26:14,430 --> 02:26:18,370
with a two-year program that allows paraprofessionals in schools

2405
02:26:18,410 --> 02:26:22,390
to be certified to move towards a full bachelor's degree

2406
02:26:22,450 --> 02:26:26,210
to become certified to teach in schools that they're already currently

2407
02:26:26,290 --> 02:26:30,270
working in. And we continue to look at ways

2408
02:26:30,310 --> 02:26:33,150
to support not just creating great teachers,

2409
02:26:34,170 --> 02:26:38,070
and leaders in our schools, but supporting the community

2410
02:26:38,210 --> 02:26:42,130
itself, through Dr. Boyd's office, and the

2411
02:26:42,170 --> 02:26:44,270
work that we do across the state

2412
02:26:45,122 --> 02:26:48,651
We also offer various educational leader trainings and

2413
02:26:48,682 --> 02:26:51,822
credentials, from principalship all the way up to

2414
02:26:51,862 --> 02:26:52,702
superintendents.

2415
02:26:53,582 --> 02:26:56,942
And last, it's been mentioned several times, our Prime Center Policy Research

2416
02:26:57,002 --> 02:27:00,881
Center in Missouri Education. I was very happy to hear the question

2417
02:27:00,922 --> 02:27:04,842
about attendance, because our Prime Center has been doing some work-

2418
02:27:04,882 --> 02:27:04,892
Mm

2419
02:27:04,892 --> 02:27:08,722
... and continues to do some work on really getting into the data of what's

2420
02:27:08,782 --> 02:27:12,682
causing this, because it's something that is plaguing not only our state,

2421
02:27:12,742 --> 02:27:16,482
but our nation. And so, it's great for us to be able to

2422
02:27:16,502 --> 02:27:20,302
rely on high quality research coming out of the

2423
02:27:20,342 --> 02:27:23,682
Prime Center, not only to inform our decisions when it comes

2424
02:27:23,782 --> 02:27:27,722
to charter authorization, but also some of the wider questions

2425
02:27:27,762 --> 02:27:30,582
that we have existing in education.

2426
02:27:31,262 --> 02:27:34,962
The last thing I'll say is in teacher certification, it really excites me as

2427
02:27:35,002 --> 02:27:38,822
someone who works in teacher ed to be able to partner directly with

2428
02:27:38,882 --> 02:27:42,852
schools so that some of our new teachers coming out of colleges of

2429
02:27:42,852 --> 02:27:46,822
education can be a part of the various schools that we support,

2430
02:27:46,922 --> 02:27:50,782
whether that be traditional public schools, charter schools, private schools,

2431
02:27:50,822 --> 02:27:54,302
things like that, so that they can see the rich diversity in what exists in

2432
02:27:54,422 --> 02:27:58,402
education in Missouri. And this is one way that we can help,

2433
02:27:58,822 --> 02:28:02,602
as an institution, feed great teachers into classrooms like at Hope

2434
02:28:02,622 --> 02:28:06,172
Leadership Academy. We truly believe that that's a pathway

2435
02:28:06,522 --> 02:28:09,212
that exists, and that we hope to be able to capitalize on.

2436
02:28:09,742 --> 02:28:13,662
And thank you so much. And I just wanted you to know all of the

2437
02:28:13,702 --> 02:28:16,762
things that we do to support our schools as we walk through this data and talk

2438
02:28:16,862 --> 02:28:18,982
about Hope Leadership Academy in particular.

2439
02:28:19,982 --> 02:28:23,962
You'll see when they joined our portfolio, we worked to support leadership at

2440
02:28:24,002 --> 02:28:27,882
Hope to improve on logistics and

2441
02:28:27,982 --> 02:28:30,272
structure, and operational practices.

2442
02:28:30,582 --> 02:28:34,182
So they quickly changed from partially met to met on several standards.

2443
02:28:34,562 --> 02:28:37,742
I also want to note that over the general trajectory,

2444
02:28:38,062 --> 02:28:40,202
academic achievement has improved.

2445
02:28:41,042 --> 02:28:44,792
Not as quickly as we would like, but it is heading in the right

2446
02:28:44,802 --> 02:28:48,142
direction. So even though it says partially met across, just know that's partially

2447
02:28:48,182 --> 02:28:50,742
met with some improvements happening in those sections.

2448
02:28:52,782 --> 02:28:56,222
I want to highlight here that Hope Leadership Academy has done a great job in

2449
02:28:56,282 --> 02:28:59,812
working with the community and working to provide a school that the

2450
02:28:59,812 --> 02:29:00,742
community wants.

2451
02:29:01,802 --> 02:29:05,362
Most recently, they've received half a million dollar funding for

2452
02:29:05,402 --> 02:29:09,282
expansion, to have a larger building, enroll more students,

2453
02:29:10,062 --> 02:29:11,582
and better support those students.

2454
02:29:12,522 --> 02:29:16,422
From that investment, they'll be able to add an additional instructional coach

2455
02:29:16,462 --> 02:29:20,242
in math. They had an instructional coach last year that really focused

2456
02:29:20,322 --> 02:29:24,262
on ELA, and so now they'll add an instructional coach on math

2457
02:29:24,322 --> 02:29:26,542
with those added funds.

2458
02:29:28,602 --> 02:29:31,862
And then want to talk to you about Hope exceeding growth

2459
02:29:31,942 --> 02:29:35,162
expectations. So here you can see Missouri's

2460
02:29:35,182 --> 02:29:39,102
distribution of growth scores

2461
02:29:39,122 --> 02:29:42,902
across the state. The average using the prime growth score is an

2462
02:29:43,062 --> 02:29:46,962
85. You'll see in ELA, Hope Leadership Academy got

2463
02:29:47,002 --> 02:29:49,822
a 94.2. That means that they're

2464
02:29:50,882 --> 02:29:54,082
performing in growth better than about

2465
02:29:54,282 --> 02:29:56,342
96% of other elementary students.

2466
02:29:56,382 --> 02:30:00,042
So there are about 1,000 schools in that group, and they're

2467
02:30:00,222 --> 02:30:02,842
38th out of 1,000 in terms of ELA growth.

2468
02:30:03,322 --> 02:30:07,062
For math, they're 220 out of 1,000 for ELA

2469
02:30:07,142 --> 02:30:08,122
growth, which means they're doing

2470
02:30:09,102 --> 02:30:12,662
better than about 78% of other elementary schools in math.

2471
02:30:13,062 --> 02:30:16,762
And what that essentially means is that they're doing a really good job of

2472
02:30:16,802 --> 02:30:18,362
helping to catch up students,

2473
02:30:19,202 --> 02:30:22,822
taking them where they are, and growing them more than what is expected over the

2474
02:30:22,862 --> 02:30:23,102
year.

2475
02:30:25,382 --> 02:30:28,302
Here you can see about the proficiency.

2476
02:30:28,322 --> 02:30:31,452
We're going to talk about that too, and then the other schools that are in the

2477
02:30:31,522 --> 02:30:32,142
neighborhood,

2478
02:30:33,982 --> 02:30:36,822
where HLA is. So you'll see

2479
02:30:37,742 --> 02:30:40,962
I have HLA is at the top because it has a

2480
02:30:41,002 --> 02:30:44,922
94 in the ELA growth score. The proficiency

2481
02:30:45,042 --> 02:30:48,982
rate is only 11%, but I want to tell you why we're focusing on

2482
02:30:49,022 --> 02:30:53,002
the growth score, because what you don't see in the proficiency number is

2483
02:30:53,042 --> 02:30:56,862
that there were several students that covered upwards of

2484
02:30:57,082 --> 02:31:00,602
60, 80-point scale scores, and came within

2485
02:31:00,762 --> 02:31:03,972
10 points or fewer of becoming proficient.

2486
02:31:04,342 --> 02:31:08,172
So that's not going to show up in that 11%, but that's what's showing up in that

2487
02:31:08,202 --> 02:31:10,982
growth. So there were students who made incredible growth

2488
02:31:11,882 --> 02:31:14,362
gains in ELA over this past year.

2489
02:31:15,282 --> 02:31:18,952
They're outperforming at least one neighborhood school in straight proficiency, and

2490
02:31:18,982 --> 02:31:22,542
they're outperforming all the neighborhood schools in growth, as well

2491
02:31:22,682 --> 02:31:23,082
as

2492
02:31:24,242 --> 02:31:28,182
the Kansas City public schools, and the state average

2493
02:31:28,222 --> 02:31:28,982
is 85.

2494
02:31:30,642 --> 02:31:34,502
Here's for math. Math is not as nice of a story, but they still have

2495
02:31:34,542 --> 02:31:37,902
the highest growth score for the schools in their neighborhood.

2496
02:31:39,442 --> 02:31:42,042
And as I said, with the investment from Black

2497
02:31:43,842 --> 02:31:46,552
KC, they'll be able to hire a math interventionist.

2498
02:31:46,902 --> 02:31:50,742
And so we hope to see that growth sustained, and as a

2499
02:31:50,782 --> 02:31:52,962
result, an improvement in proficiency.

2500
02:31:55,282 --> 02:31:57,802
Here are the high stakes contract goals,

2501
02:31:58,942 --> 02:32:02,242
for examples for you. So just so you know, we're really focused

2502
02:32:02,362 --> 02:32:06,142
on pushing students out of basic and below basic into

2503
02:32:06,162 --> 02:32:10,042
proficiency. So because of that, one of the high stakes contract goals

2504
02:32:10,082 --> 02:32:10,652
that we have

2505
02:32:11,622 --> 02:32:15,242
says that all students who previously scored a basic or below basic,

2506
02:32:15,822 --> 02:32:18,222
the average of those students will score

2507
02:32:19,062 --> 02:32:20,962
higher than expected on their growth score.

2508
02:32:21,682 --> 02:32:22,472
And if

2509
02:32:23,342 --> 02:32:27,162
that doesn't happen, then we'll send a letter of concern out to the school and

2510
02:32:27,202 --> 02:32:29,242
work with them to build

2511
02:32:30,562 --> 02:32:34,302
a plan for improvement. If

2512
02:32:34,362 --> 02:32:34,562
the

2513
02:32:35,482 --> 02:32:39,382
plan is deemed insufficient, then we will put them on probation, and

2514
02:32:39,422 --> 02:32:42,982
then we will tell them exactly what we think they should do and carry out at the

2515
02:32:43,082 --> 02:32:43,442
school.

2516
02:32:44,562 --> 02:32:48,342
And so that's for ELA and for math. And just one other note, that if the

2517
02:32:48,382 --> 02:32:52,282
school meets fewer than half of its academic achievement standards in any year,

2518
02:32:52,682 --> 02:32:56,222
it will pause new student enrollment for the upcoming school year.

2519
02:32:56,582 --> 02:33:00,462
So we're focused on supporting Hope so that they can be

2520
02:33:01,538 --> 02:33:03,438
... stronger for the students and the community.

2521
02:33:04,158 --> 02:33:07,478
And if they don't do that, we will move towards closure.

2522
02:33:08,138 --> 02:33:08,378
And

2523
02:33:09,898 --> 02:33:13,738
I just want to note that renewal is not a stamp of approval for

2524
02:33:13,818 --> 02:33:17,258
status quo. It's something that we want to do to continue to support

2525
02:33:17,278 --> 02:33:20,938
improvement. And we believe if HOPE Leadership Academy did not exist,

2526
02:33:21,338 --> 02:33:24,398
students would be going to schools where proficiency is

2527
02:33:25,218 --> 02:33:29,198
around the same, but growth is a little bit lower, where they wouldn't necessarily

2528
02:33:29,238 --> 02:33:33,118
be pushed past proficiency staying with the program.

2529
02:33:35,198 --> 02:33:37,378
Then also, I'd just like to highlight in our

2530
02:33:38,658 --> 02:33:42,648
annual report, if you look on page 17, you

2531
02:33:42,698 --> 02:33:46,278
can see the image of the growth scores for our entire

2532
02:33:46,318 --> 02:33:47,078
portfolio.

2533
02:33:48,038 --> 02:33:51,678
And you can see that Hope Leadership Academy has the single

2534
02:33:51,778 --> 02:33:55,238
highest growth score for the entire portfolio, and that's a

2535
02:33:55,398 --> 02:33:59,018
94.2 in ELA. That's higher than

2536
02:33:59,318 --> 02:34:03,038
Frontier's math growth score, which is the highest in the state.

2537
02:34:03,118 --> 02:34:06,998
So I'd just like to note that we're doing good work, and we're pushing for better.

2538
02:34:07,378 --> 02:34:09,258
I'm happy to entertain any questions you have.

2539
02:34:12,238 --> 02:34:12,848
Mrs. Casey.

2540
02:34:13,358 --> 02:34:14,598
Thank you, President Miller.

2541
02:34:15,758 --> 02:34:17,698
And thank you for this additional information.

2542
02:34:17,758 --> 02:34:19,978
It's helpful, and I think it will...

2543
02:34:21,198 --> 02:34:24,738
We still have work to do in this area, but this is a good start

2544
02:34:25,518 --> 02:34:28,998
of being able to provide more specific details

2545
02:34:29,218 --> 02:34:33,138
about the plans for improvement at a specific

2546
02:34:33,218 --> 02:34:34,538
charter school or any school.

2547
02:34:35,518 --> 02:34:39,398
A couple of various questions. If I look back at your

2548
02:34:39,458 --> 02:34:43,248
slide on how Hope Leadership Academy is building for the future,

2549
02:34:44,658 --> 02:34:44,678
you

2550
02:34:45,958 --> 02:34:47,838
indicate new curriculums.

2551
02:34:50,098 --> 02:34:54,038
My first question is, have those curriculums been vetted to ensure that they're

2552
02:34:54,058 --> 02:34:57,778
deemed high-quality instruction materials, and are they on the

2553
02:34:57,818 --> 02:35:01,238
approved state curriculum list?

2554
02:35:01,638 --> 02:35:03,018
Yes, ma'am. That's where the

2555
02:35:04,518 --> 02:35:06,818
curriculum was sourced from the state-approved list.

2556
02:35:06,938 --> 02:35:10,738
They looked at what was on the list and then found what best fit

2557
02:35:10,838 --> 02:35:14,738
the student body. They're using the McGraw Hill text to

2558
02:35:14,778 --> 02:35:15,718
support their curriculum.

2559
02:35:17,178 --> 02:35:17,578
Thank you.

2560
02:35:18,658 --> 02:35:22,358
I don't see any mention of assessment tools that are being

2561
02:35:22,458 --> 02:35:24,198
used in this particular-

2562
02:35:24,458 --> 02:35:24,698
Mm-hmm

2563
02:35:25,198 --> 02:35:28,898
... update. So, the same question, are the

2564
02:35:28,978 --> 02:35:31,058
assessment tools being used

2565
02:35:32,618 --> 02:35:35,718
on the list of approved assessment tools?

2566
02:35:36,038 --> 02:35:37,478
Yes. They're using i-Ready.

2567
02:35:38,038 --> 02:35:41,978
Okay. And then how regularly will you

2568
02:35:42,018 --> 02:35:44,468
as a sponsor review those assessment results?

2569
02:35:45,238 --> 02:35:48,978
So, as a sponsor, we attend every single board

2570
02:35:49,018 --> 02:35:52,778
meeting of our charter schools, and so we require that

2571
02:35:52,838 --> 02:35:55,358
those details are reviewed at the board meeting.

2572
02:35:56,238 --> 02:35:59,998
And so we will see them either before, perhaps at an

2573
02:36:00,058 --> 02:36:03,998
academic meeting or in the board meeting where they're reviewed,

2574
02:36:04,818 --> 02:36:07,938
and so within a couple of weeks of the

2575
02:36:07,958 --> 02:36:09,078
results.

2576
02:36:09,218 --> 02:36:13,098
So, and my last question in this area, and turn it

2577
02:36:13,158 --> 02:36:16,638
over, the contract goals.

2578
02:36:16,998 --> 02:36:17,718
Yes.

2579
02:36:17,918 --> 02:36:21,718
There's nothing specific here. There's no specific

2580
02:36:21,778 --> 02:36:25,538
targeted goal that they will grow by X, or an actual...

2581
02:36:25,998 --> 02:36:27,078
There's descriptive-

2582
02:36:27,218 --> 02:36:27,398
Mm-hmm

2583
02:36:27,418 --> 02:36:29,878
... but there is not a specific measurement-

2584
02:36:30,278 --> 02:36:30,398
Mm-hmm

2585
02:36:30,408 --> 02:36:33,438
... defined. So what are the targets for growth?

2586
02:36:33,738 --> 02:36:35,058
How much are you expecting

2587
02:36:36,558 --> 02:36:40,038
HLA to grow, and by what cohort and

2588
02:36:40,118 --> 02:36:41,227
what timeframe?

2589
02:36:41,838 --> 02:36:45,678
Yeah. So, we expect HLA to exceed growth

2590
02:36:45,818 --> 02:36:49,588
expectations from now until they

2591
02:36:49,698 --> 02:36:52,358
are on par with the district and the state.

2592
02:36:52,618 --> 02:36:55,558
But exceed could be 1% or 5% or

2593
02:36:56,178 --> 02:36:58,378
20%. There should be a specific goal.

2594
02:37:02,258 --> 02:37:02,928
I'll turn it over.

2595
02:37:03,278 --> 02:37:03,428
Mm-hmm.

2596
02:37:05,078 --> 02:37:06,408
Mrs. Westbrooks-Hodges.

2597
02:37:06,658 --> 02:37:10,228
Thank you, Mr. President. I think what

2598
02:37:10,278 --> 02:37:14,138
Carrie is getting at, and what I'm thinking is, at what point does growth

2599
02:37:14,178 --> 02:37:16,578
show up in the status column?

2600
02:37:16,618 --> 02:37:18,818
Yeah. No, I appreciate that question.

2601
02:37:18,917 --> 02:37:19,578
Right. And so

2602
02:37:20,977 --> 02:37:24,808
first of all, I'm a big fan of SLU and the Prime Center and the

2603
02:37:24,878 --> 02:37:28,498
work that you're doing, and I really deeply appreciate the

2604
02:37:28,558 --> 02:37:31,198
focus on growth and growing our children.

2605
02:37:31,238 --> 02:37:31,768
Thank you.

2606
02:37:32,038 --> 02:37:35,688
When can we expect to see... So what are your projections-

2607
02:37:35,718 --> 02:37:35,728
Yeah

2608
02:37:35,728 --> 02:37:38,498
... and when do we move from growth to-

2609
02:37:38,718 --> 02:37:38,858
Mm-hmm

2610
02:37:38,958 --> 02:37:42,818
... an expectation of a particular status at a particular

2611
02:37:43,438 --> 02:37:43,858
time?

2612
02:37:44,038 --> 02:37:44,278
Yeah.

2613
02:37:44,378 --> 02:37:44,858
So what's your-

2614
02:37:45,158 --> 02:37:45,648
I appreciate-

2615
02:37:45,668 --> 02:37:47,908
... two years? Is it three years? When are we going to get there?

2616
02:37:47,958 --> 02:37:50,218
Yeah. I appreciate the rephrase of the question.

2617
02:37:51,298 --> 02:37:51,598
So

2618
02:37:52,438 --> 02:37:56,018
in my experience in working with schools that are doing turnaround work here in

2619
02:37:56,078 --> 02:37:56,608
Missouri,

2620
02:37:57,938 --> 02:38:01,338
when students are with a program for three consecutive

2621
02:38:01,458 --> 02:38:05,408
years, we should expect to see an increase in proficiency for the

2622
02:38:05,498 --> 02:38:09,158
students that have stayed with the program for three consecutive years.

2623
02:38:09,218 --> 02:38:12,638
If we get above expected growth for three consecutive years,

2624
02:38:13,058 --> 02:38:16,948
that usually results in a movement from one bucket to the

2625
02:38:17,038 --> 02:38:19,798
next, from below basic to basic, or basic to proficient.

2626
02:38:19,958 --> 02:38:23,878
Hold on to that. So the next question is, we see the

2627
02:38:23,918 --> 02:38:27,718
attendance challenges. Talk about mobility

2628
02:38:28,518 --> 02:38:30,138
and how often these

2629
02:38:30,998 --> 02:38:34,238
cohorts are turning over, and if we

2630
02:38:34,318 --> 02:38:37,318
expect that we can achieve the

2631
02:38:37,358 --> 02:38:38,968
persistency and the

2632
02:38:40,178 --> 02:38:41,198
progression-

2633
02:38:41,238 --> 02:38:41,427
Mm-hmm

2634
02:38:41,678 --> 02:38:43,388
... of the same cohort of students.

2635
02:38:43,618 --> 02:38:43,828
Yeah, no.

2636
02:38:43,848 --> 02:38:44,688
Is that a challenge?

2637
02:38:44,898 --> 02:38:48,478
That is definitely a challenge, and that's one of the reasons that it's so

2638
02:38:48,518 --> 02:38:51,858
exciting to work in the School of Education that authorizes schools

2639
02:38:52,278 --> 02:38:56,218
because we're working to support individual schools, but

2640
02:38:56,238 --> 02:38:58,838
we're also working to support the overall sector.

2641
02:38:59,218 --> 02:39:02,598
So the things that we learn from other schools, we'll try to implement at Hope,

2642
02:39:03,738 --> 02:39:06,838
and hopefully positively impacts public education.

2643
02:39:07,138 --> 02:39:08,228
Are you seeing an impact

2644
02:39:13,148 --> 02:39:16,448
Do you have that long tail data to say you're impacting mobility?

2645
02:39:19,488 --> 02:39:23,428
Not on this first run of our white paper, but there are some

2646
02:39:23,528 --> 02:39:25,438
districts that are. But I can say-

2647
02:39:25,468 --> 02:39:26,768
That's the ultimate goal, right?

2648
02:39:26,788 --> 02:39:26,798
Yeah.

2649
02:39:26,828 --> 02:39:26,948
To-

2650
02:39:27,367 --> 02:39:27,527
Yeah.

2651
02:39:28,468 --> 02:39:32,308
And the goal is, like Dr. Boyd said, to replicate what is working in

2652
02:39:32,348 --> 02:39:33,188
certain districts.

2653
02:39:34,728 --> 02:39:38,668
What we found, and I think someone asked the question about parents and vacations,

2654
02:39:38,728 --> 02:39:42,368
there is a conversation that we're not having about a population

2655
02:39:42,408 --> 02:39:46,328
of students who have the means to take

2656
02:39:46,368 --> 02:39:50,348
a vacation in midweek, right before the holiday break, and so

2657
02:39:50,388 --> 02:39:54,238
those three days add up. So we've not built partnerships with the business

2658
02:39:54,308 --> 02:39:58,288
community to say, "Hey, can you work with us as a school district?" And I'm kind of

2659
02:39:58,368 --> 02:40:02,048
talking too much, because this is research that we have not delved into, but would

2660
02:40:02,068 --> 02:40:05,708
like to spend more time talking to the business community, and people like Dr.

2661
02:40:05,908 --> 02:40:09,888
Boyd. Not to point her out, she admitted herself how her son misses several days

2662
02:40:09,928 --> 02:40:13,228
of school because of his illness. But we have those educated

2663
02:40:13,388 --> 02:40:17,248
professionals, and they have the means and the resources, and they can

2664
02:40:17,288 --> 02:40:20,168
stay with nanny or grandmother. That's impacting the attendance rate.

2665
02:40:20,848 --> 02:40:23,668
But that's not included in when we're talking about chronic

2666
02:40:23,768 --> 02:40:26,928
absenteeism. That conversation is not normally had.

2667
02:40:26,948 --> 02:40:30,518
It is so much work to be done, and we won't just scratch the

2668
02:40:30,588 --> 02:40:34,268
surface with one organization, one set of data,

2669
02:40:34,908 --> 02:40:38,508
one research paper, of course.

2670
02:40:38,608 --> 02:40:42,208
But we are having the conversation with some of the schools.

2671
02:40:43,068 --> 02:40:46,448
So we have Maplewood Richmond Heights alongside Confluence Academy.

2672
02:40:47,068 --> 02:40:50,828
Look totally different in terms of their attendance data, but could we

2673
02:40:50,928 --> 02:40:54,308
share some of those conversations and dialogue and best practice?

2674
02:40:54,368 --> 02:40:55,848
We're not there yet, but that's the goal.

2675
02:40:57,668 --> 02:40:58,268
Mr. Otto.

2676
02:40:59,408 --> 02:41:00,508
Yeah. This is

2677
02:41:01,368 --> 02:41:04,168
kind of going back to the high-priority contract goals.

2678
02:41:04,408 --> 02:41:07,888
And so, I see that the measurement you just described

2679
02:41:07,948 --> 02:41:10,088
was growth year over year.

2680
02:41:11,128 --> 02:41:12,468
And you did mention that

2681
02:41:13,628 --> 02:41:17,128
if they don't meet those standards, you'll pause new student enrollment, and then

2682
02:41:17,168 --> 02:41:17,808
eventually

2683
02:41:18,748 --> 02:41:22,108
close the school. So how long, what's the runway there

2684
02:41:23,348 --> 02:41:24,148
if they are not

2685
02:41:25,208 --> 02:41:27,008
meeting their... Because the numbers, I

2686
02:41:28,188 --> 02:41:31,548
hate to shine a spotlight on it, and I don't know what the causes were, but

2687
02:41:32,328 --> 02:41:34,628
92, 93%

2688
02:41:36,108 --> 02:41:38,308
below basic is not really good, right?

2689
02:41:38,348 --> 02:41:38,728
And so,

2690
02:41:39,628 --> 02:41:43,328
to focus on those prime numbers, yeah, they grew

2691
02:41:43,808 --> 02:41:47,408
from 93 to 73, but that's going to

2692
02:41:47,428 --> 02:41:50,608
plateau at some point, I think. Or maybe it isn't. I don't know.

2693
02:41:50,648 --> 02:41:51,008
Maybe they're

2694
02:41:52,148 --> 02:41:55,988
really improving the students. But it's kind of easy to go from

2695
02:41:56,048 --> 02:41:57,788
really bad to okay,

2696
02:41:58,728 --> 02:42:00,708
and then to keep moving forward from okay to

2697
02:42:01,528 --> 02:42:02,888
good and great and everything like that.

2698
02:42:02,948 --> 02:42:03,108
But

2699
02:42:04,728 --> 02:42:06,348
really my question is, what's the timeline?

2700
02:42:06,408 --> 02:42:08,348
How long are you going to give them

2701
02:42:09,368 --> 02:42:11,088
to keep showing improvement?

2702
02:42:11,188 --> 02:42:13,648
Yeah. And I just want to say that

2703
02:42:14,648 --> 02:42:18,167
the growth measure that Missouri has is a really strong, robust measure.

2704
02:42:18,588 --> 02:42:22,528
And so it's not necessarily... Typically, you would think it's easier to grow

2705
02:42:22,608 --> 02:42:25,478
if you're a lower proficiency than if you're a higher proficiency.

2706
02:42:25,508 --> 02:42:28,917
That's not necessarily the case. So I just want to state that.

2707
02:42:28,928 --> 02:42:31,188
But in terms of your question for the timeline,

2708
02:42:32,228 --> 02:42:34,888
we're going to review the results of

2709
02:42:35,028 --> 02:42:38,988
this most recent iteration of testing to see if

2710
02:42:39,068 --> 02:42:42,788
they produced the same amount of growth and improved proficiency.

2711
02:42:43,348 --> 02:42:47,088
So once we receive that information, I'm hoping by December,

2712
02:42:47,228 --> 02:42:50,848
we'll be able to make that decision about whether or not we need to move into the

2713
02:42:50,868 --> 02:42:53,768
letter of concern for an improvement plan or not.

2714
02:42:53,828 --> 02:42:57,328
If we do have to move into a letter of concern and improvement plan

2715
02:42:57,428 --> 02:43:01,048
basis, if we're on the same page and we are

2716
02:43:01,058 --> 02:43:04,508
agreeable to the plan in place, and the plan is

2717
02:43:04,568 --> 02:43:07,268
executed well, then we should be fine.

2718
02:43:07,368 --> 02:43:10,928
If not, the school will be closed within the following 18 months.

2719
02:43:11,408 --> 02:43:12,828
Okay. Thank you.

2720
02:43:14,888 --> 02:43:15,438
Mm-hmm.

2721
02:43:15,568 --> 02:43:19,538
So the recommendation is the sponsor, SLU, recommends

2722
02:43:19,588 --> 02:43:21,948
a five-year renewal. Oh, I'm sorry.

2723
02:43:22,768 --> 02:43:22,828
No.

2724
02:43:22,928 --> 02:43:23,288
Yes.

2725
02:43:24,308 --> 02:43:24,448
Oh.

2726
02:43:25,008 --> 02:43:26,188
Go ahead. Go ahead and finish.

2727
02:43:26,228 --> 02:43:26,408
Okay.

2728
02:43:26,938 --> 02:43:28,527
And then I'll come back.

2729
02:43:28,588 --> 02:43:32,558
This recommendation is based on the sponsor's analysis of the comprehensive

2730
02:43:32,628 --> 02:43:36,148
body of objective evidence. The department presents SLU's

2731
02:43:36,188 --> 02:43:39,788
recommendation that the State Board of Education authorize Hope Leadership

2732
02:43:39,848 --> 02:43:43,668
Academy to continue operations pursuant to the charter renewal

2733
02:43:43,748 --> 02:43:47,548
granted by SLU effective July 1st

2734
02:43:48,228 --> 02:43:51,578
of 2026 for a five-year period. Per the

2735
02:43:51,578 --> 02:43:55,508
contingencies outlined in the performance contract and the sponsor's

2736
02:43:55,588 --> 02:43:57,718
additional review of academics,

2737
02:43:58,548 --> 02:44:02,328
an update to the State Board of Education following the

2738
02:44:02,338 --> 02:44:04,288
'26-'27 school year.

2739
02:44:06,728 --> 02:44:08,008
Do we have a motion for that?

2740
02:44:10,588 --> 02:44:10,928
Motion.

2741
02:44:11,488 --> 02:44:11,648
Second.

2742
02:44:11,668 --> 02:44:15,088
And a second. We have a motion and a second, so now we'll discuss it.

2743
02:44:16,168 --> 02:44:16,828
Mrs. Casey.

2744
02:44:17,028 --> 02:44:17,748
Thank you very much.

2745
02:44:18,608 --> 02:44:22,308
Do we, as a board, have an option to recommend less than a five-year

2746
02:44:22,348 --> 02:44:22,688
renewal?

2747
02:44:23,508 --> 02:44:25,168
Unfortunately, statute does not

2748
02:44:26,708 --> 02:44:30,668
have anything for that. We don't have a up to in

2749
02:44:30,708 --> 02:44:34,088
statute, so it's either five or 10 or

2750
02:44:34,588 --> 02:44:34,868
nothing.

2751
02:44:35,308 --> 02:44:36,508
Okay. Thank you for confirming.

2752
02:44:38,928 --> 02:44:42,488
I don't know the most appropriate way to address this point.

2753
02:44:42,588 --> 02:44:46,578
It was stated earlier that you will require the

2754
02:44:47,968 --> 02:44:50,648
sponsor to come back with an update-

2755
02:44:50,788 --> 02:44:50,888
Yes

2756
02:44:50,948 --> 02:44:53,408
... at year one. I would like to further amend the

2757
02:44:54,288 --> 02:44:58,148
motion to include that point, that the sponsor will

2758
02:44:58,208 --> 02:44:58,768
come back

2759
02:44:59,948 --> 02:45:01,188
each, and I would like to

2760
02:45:02,368 --> 02:45:05,048
go beyond your recommendation that it be

2761
02:45:05,928 --> 02:45:08,788
just in this next year, but that they come back annually

2762
02:45:09,848 --> 02:45:13,568
during this five-year period until they meet their

2763
02:45:13,608 --> 02:45:13,948
goals.

2764
02:45:17,604 --> 02:45:18,644
Yeah, there needs to be a second.

2765
02:45:18,684 --> 02:45:20,544
Oh, I'll second the amendment to the motion.

2766
02:45:21,244 --> 02:45:25,184
Okay. So we have an amendment to the motion, and it has been

2767
02:45:25,284 --> 02:45:25,784
seconded.

2768
02:45:26,684 --> 02:45:28,704
So any discussion on the amendment?

2769
02:45:30,984 --> 02:45:31,744
Mr. Matusik?

2770
02:45:32,644 --> 02:45:34,364
No real discussion, just a question.

2771
02:45:35,084 --> 02:45:38,754
Brad, do you have that, what you need? Okay.

2772
02:45:38,754 --> 02:45:40,264
Okay, any other questions?

2773
02:45:41,824 --> 02:45:44,864
Sorry, just a point of clarification.

2774
02:45:44,904 --> 02:45:47,984
I know Board Member Westbrook Hodge asked at the beginning,

2775
02:45:48,144 --> 02:45:51,984
what if we vote no, basically. Really paraphrasing,

2776
02:45:52,084 --> 02:45:52,224
but

2777
02:45:53,804 --> 02:45:57,764
I took a look at the statute, and I want somebody to correct me, but it looks like

2778
02:45:57,864 --> 02:45:58,524
if the

2779
02:46:00,224 --> 02:46:03,844
school meets the requirements, then we have to

2780
02:46:03,884 --> 02:46:05,244
approve. There's no

2781
02:46:06,704 --> 02:46:09,354
no. But at least from what I can tell,

2782
02:46:09,624 --> 02:46:13,584
under 160.403,

2783
02:46:13,604 --> 02:46:17,544
the only real authority that the state school board

2784
02:46:17,584 --> 02:46:20,884
has would be to deny a sponsor who

2785
02:46:21,204 --> 02:46:24,924
sponsors charter schools who we may or may not approve of. Is that correct?

2786
02:46:25,124 --> 02:46:29,084
Absolutely. So you'll

2787
02:46:29,164 --> 02:46:32,464
see, like this new board, some people who haven't been here

2788
02:46:33,824 --> 02:46:37,304
for long enough will see the evaluation of sponsors come forth.

2789
02:46:37,584 --> 02:46:39,924
That's every three years or as caused.

2790
02:46:40,424 --> 02:46:44,324
So if the department says, "Hey, board, we think we

2791
02:46:44,364 --> 02:46:48,164
need to evaluate this sponsor prior two to three years," or the board comes back

2792
02:46:48,184 --> 02:46:52,024
and says, "We want to evaluate this sponsor based on

2793
02:46:52,064 --> 02:46:52,424
whatever."

2794
02:46:53,044 --> 02:46:54,864
Yeah, so I just wanted to clarify that.

2795
02:46:54,924 --> 02:46:58,824
So I think it's appropriate that we included this modification

2796
02:46:58,904 --> 02:47:02,724
that the sponsor come back to us about this particular school, and then we

2797
02:47:02,764 --> 02:47:06,284
can take that into account when we are

2798
02:47:06,864 --> 02:47:09,444
evaluating the renewal of the sponsor. Does that make sense?

2799
02:47:09,584 --> 02:47:09,764
Yes.

2800
02:47:10,804 --> 02:47:11,904
Okay. Mrs. Westbrook.

2801
02:47:12,704 --> 02:47:16,264
And this isn't an amendment to the motion, it's just discussion

2802
02:47:16,344 --> 02:47:16,824
about

2803
02:47:17,744 --> 02:47:19,444
what would be helpful when you come back.

2804
02:47:20,224 --> 02:47:24,144
It would be great if you were to, based on your growth

2805
02:47:24,264 --> 02:47:27,984
projections model, when you expect

2806
02:47:27,994 --> 02:47:31,884
them to get to that status point that we like

2807
02:47:31,944 --> 02:47:34,924
to see. Is it going to take 10 years, three years?

2808
02:47:35,744 --> 02:47:39,324
That's helpful context, and it also holds

2809
02:47:39,524 --> 02:47:43,484
you guys accountable for meeting those projections

2810
02:47:43,524 --> 02:47:44,834
and those growth targets,

2811
02:47:45,704 --> 02:47:48,464
because growth is great, but it needs to get you somewhere.

2812
02:47:49,744 --> 02:47:51,904
Well, the only way to get somewhere is to grow.

2813
02:47:52,124 --> 02:47:55,604
It is. And so, I think that's

2814
02:47:55,704 --> 02:47:59,424
a happy balancing act, right?

2815
02:47:59,624 --> 02:47:59,924
To

2816
02:48:00,984 --> 02:48:01,884
push for growth,

2817
02:48:02,844 --> 02:48:06,464
and to project those targets, and then help us

2818
02:48:06,524 --> 02:48:08,024
understand those

2819
02:48:08,824 --> 02:48:11,644
status levels that you're attempting to achieve.

2820
02:48:11,724 --> 02:48:15,604
Yeah. I'm very excited to do that. That's part of the work that's going

2821
02:48:15,664 --> 02:48:19,604
on with the GAINS cohort right now, where we have a tool that we're working with

2822
02:48:19,984 --> 02:48:22,644
to model just that. So it would be my pleasure.

2823
02:48:23,084 --> 02:48:23,644
Okay.

2824
02:48:24,004 --> 02:48:25,524
I think something else, just

2825
02:48:26,744 --> 02:48:30,424
to remind the sponsors and the board and our schools, that with the

2826
02:48:30,764 --> 02:48:34,664
grade cards that the governor, the executive order, has called for us to do, we'll

2827
02:48:34,704 --> 02:48:35,664
have an additional,

2828
02:48:36,564 --> 02:48:39,984
fairly clear moniker on each of our

2829
02:48:40,364 --> 02:48:43,624
public schools, including public charter schools and districts

2830
02:48:44,304 --> 02:48:44,964
moving forward.

2831
02:48:45,324 --> 02:48:48,974
So we do have the amendment, and it's been moved, and it's been

2832
02:48:49,044 --> 02:48:52,424
seconded. So can we move for a vote on the

2833
02:48:52,464 --> 02:48:56,164
amendment to the motion?

2834
02:48:56,964 --> 02:48:59,064
So is there any more questions about the amendment?

2835
02:49:00,944 --> 02:49:04,484
Hearing none, all those in favor of the amendment as presented, which is to have

2836
02:49:04,524 --> 02:49:06,564
them come back annually and present.

2837
02:49:07,804 --> 02:49:08,024
Okay.

2838
02:49:09,004 --> 02:49:10,244
All those in favor say aye.

2839
02:49:10,674 --> 02:49:10,674
Aye.

2840
02:49:10,684 --> 02:49:10,904
Aye.

2841
02:49:11,644 --> 02:49:11,654
Aye.

2842
02:49:11,704 --> 02:49:12,484
Any opposition?

2843
02:49:13,484 --> 02:49:16,224
Hearing none, that passes. Now we'll go to the motion.

2844
02:49:17,044 --> 02:49:18,004
And so,

2845
02:49:20,304 --> 02:49:22,944
is there any questions about the motion with the amendment?

2846
02:49:23,784 --> 02:49:25,264
Well, any additions to it?

2847
02:49:25,584 --> 02:49:28,844
I think we just approved the motion as amended, so we're good on that.

2848
02:49:29,344 --> 02:49:31,064
No, we didn't vote on the motion.

2849
02:49:31,304 --> 02:49:31,844
Which was to-

2850
02:49:32,264 --> 02:49:32,604
Did we?

2851
02:49:33,424 --> 02:49:33,664
No.

2852
02:49:33,724 --> 02:49:33,904
I don't-

2853
02:49:34,104 --> 02:49:34,944
I think we stopped.

2854
02:49:35,024 --> 02:49:36,564
You vote to amend that, then you vote the motion.

2855
02:49:38,543 --> 02:49:41,124
So you're saying we included the motion in the

2856
02:49:42,624 --> 02:49:44,044
amendment when we voted on the amendment?

2857
02:49:44,104 --> 02:49:44,884
I think for

2858
02:49:45,704 --> 02:49:47,484
clarification, to restate,

2859
02:49:48,044 --> 02:49:51,824
and for

2860
02:49:51,864 --> 02:49:55,694
clarity, and that we will revote, but the motion

2861
02:49:55,764 --> 02:49:59,504
on the floor is to approve the renewal

2862
02:50:00,024 --> 02:50:02,704
of Hope Leadership Academy for five years

2863
02:50:03,644 --> 02:50:07,224
and require the sponsor to present to the

2864
02:50:07,284 --> 02:50:07,724
board,

2865
02:50:08,584 --> 02:50:12,084
each year, annually during that renewal period, the

2866
02:50:12,124 --> 02:50:15,184
progress made toward the specific goals

2867
02:50:15,944 --> 02:50:17,364
set within their

2868
02:50:18,204 --> 02:50:22,004
contract with the school. And

2869
02:50:22,064 --> 02:50:22,284
that

2870
02:50:23,244 --> 02:50:25,764
include a long-range projection.

2871
02:50:26,944 --> 02:50:28,264
And that is the motion on the floor.

2872
02:50:28,774 --> 02:50:31,684
And it's been seconded by Mr. Otto.

2873
02:50:33,404 --> 02:50:33,864
And the vote-

2874
02:50:34,484 --> 02:50:34,724
Mm-hmm

2875
02:50:35,544 --> 02:50:39,204
... is according to that motion. Yeah.

2876
02:50:39,344 --> 02:50:41,244
So we've all voted on that motion.

2877
02:50:41,284 --> 02:50:41,384
Yes.

2878
02:50:42,164 --> 02:50:42,984
And that was the motion.

2879
02:50:43,144 --> 02:50:43,364
Okay.

2880
02:50:44,864 --> 02:50:46,704
Thank you for your service. I appreciate you.

2881
02:50:46,864 --> 02:50:47,304
Thank you.

2882
02:50:47,424 --> 02:50:47,984
Thank you.

2883
02:50:48,914 --> 02:50:50,014
Thank you.

2884
02:50:50,014 --> 02:50:51,384
Thank

2885
02:50:54,864 --> 02:50:56,724
you.

2886
02:50:58,664 --> 02:50:59,184
So are you--

2887
02:51:00,564 --> 02:51:04,044
I don't believe that's correct. I think you have to vote on the

2888
02:51:04,084 --> 02:51:05,164
renewed motion.

2889
02:51:08,144 --> 02:51:08,924
Yeah, we put it on the-

2890
02:51:09,124 --> 02:51:09,524
Mm-hmm.

2891
02:51:11,804 --> 02:51:13,724
And that goes down to the motion.

2892
02:51:14,044 --> 02:51:14,324
Yeah.

2893
02:51:14,384 --> 02:51:15,384
And to correct them-

2894
02:51:15,744 --> 02:51:15,764
Yes

2895
02:51:16,024 --> 02:51:18,534
... change motion on the floor, then you vote on it.

2896
02:51:18,824 --> 02:51:19,104
Correct.

2897
02:51:19,144 --> 02:51:19,844
You're correct.

2898
02:51:19,884 --> 02:51:20,244
Okay.

2899
02:51:20,284 --> 02:51:20,394
Yeah.

2900
02:51:25,188 --> 02:51:25,328
Yeah.

2901
02:51:25,828 --> 02:51:26,068
So,

2902
02:51:27,928 --> 02:51:28,598
yeah, just call for a vote.

2903
02:51:28,668 --> 02:51:28,848
Yeah.

2904
02:51:29,808 --> 02:51:31,448
So, we're going to call for a vote-

2905
02:51:31,588 --> 02:51:31,768
Sure

2906
02:51:32,048 --> 02:51:35,968
... with the amendment that we've already approved for

2907
02:51:36,028 --> 02:51:38,488
the motion with the amendment-

2908
02:51:38,768 --> 02:51:38,778
Yeah

2909
02:51:38,778 --> 02:51:39,808
... and current basis.

2910
02:51:40,388 --> 02:51:40,548
Yeah.

2911
02:51:41,378 --> 02:51:41,667
Yeah. Okay?

2912
02:51:42,908 --> 02:51:46,518
And now let me just get a second to that, or a first, I

2913
02:51:46,608 --> 02:51:49,448
guess, because it would be a different motion.

2914
02:51:49,808 --> 02:51:49,948
Yeah.

2915
02:51:51,068 --> 02:51:51,078
Yeah.

2916
02:51:51,108 --> 02:51:52,808
To accept the original motion as amended.

2917
02:51:52,848 --> 02:51:54,988
As amended. Yeah, that'd be correct.

2918
02:51:55,248 --> 02:51:57,508
Move to accept the original motion as amended.

2919
02:51:57,787 --> 02:51:58,108
Second.

2920
02:51:58,808 --> 02:52:02,168
Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in agreement say aye.

2921
02:52:02,468 --> 02:52:02,768
Aye.

2922
02:52:02,868 --> 02:52:03,068
Aye.

2923
02:52:03,808 --> 02:52:07,358
Any opposed? Hearing none, that passes unanimously. Thank you.

2924
02:52:07,908 --> 02:52:10,688
Thank you for that clarity, Kyle, or Dr. Kruse.

2925
02:52:16,948 --> 02:52:18,208
Okay. Now,

2926
02:52:19,188 --> 02:52:22,948
we will proceed to the second of the charter

2927
02:52:22,958 --> 02:52:25,788
renewals that we have for your consideration

2928
02:52:27,008 --> 02:52:30,267
today. This one is for

2929
02:52:30,588 --> 02:52:34,368
Citizens of the World Kansas City Charter School.

2930
02:52:34,408 --> 02:52:38,088
Its sponsor is Kansas City Public Schools, and with us

2931
02:52:38,148 --> 02:52:39,228
today we have

2932
02:52:40,388 --> 02:52:43,568
the Director of Education Collaboration, Allison Heil,

2933
02:52:44,728 --> 02:52:47,788
and the Deputy Superintendent, Daryl Davis,

2934
02:52:48,728 --> 02:52:50,308
from Kansas City Public Schools.

2935
02:52:51,368 --> 02:52:54,288
I'm going to turn this over to Shaneka.

2936
02:52:54,348 --> 02:52:57,908
We'll have a similar flow of the discussion.

2937
02:52:58,548 --> 02:53:01,608
The concern on this particular

2938
02:53:01,648 --> 02:53:04,668
renewal is not the

2939
02:53:06,268 --> 02:53:07,888
really serious concern and

2940
02:53:09,228 --> 02:53:12,468
what really stood out about our previous

2941
02:53:13,388 --> 02:53:16,688
school, which was those low proficiency rates.

2942
02:53:17,548 --> 02:53:18,848
This is more about

2943
02:53:21,108 --> 02:53:24,868
Kansas City Public Schools taking over as sponsor of

2944
02:53:24,928 --> 02:53:28,568
Citizens of the World, and just looking at the

2945
02:53:28,648 --> 02:53:31,628
history of the previous sponsor's

2946
02:53:31,788 --> 02:53:35,727
evaluation of Citizens of the World and how

2947
02:53:35,787 --> 02:53:36,768
KCPS

2948
02:53:37,628 --> 02:53:41,408
looked at those evaluations and made its renewal decision.

2949
02:53:42,208 --> 02:53:43,428
Okay. Shaneka?

2950
02:53:43,968 --> 02:53:46,868
All right. So again, we have Citizens of the

2951
02:53:47,548 --> 02:53:51,428
World, and this is what you saw last time, so we're not

2952
02:53:51,448 --> 02:53:54,068
going to go through it. We talked about the authority

2953
02:53:54,908 --> 02:53:58,428
and the process which the department takes when looking

2954
02:53:58,488 --> 02:54:02,468
at renewal applications. Now, Citizens

2955
02:54:02,528 --> 02:54:06,348
of the World, again, as stated, was previously

2956
02:54:06,408 --> 02:54:09,028
sponsored by Missouri Charter Public School Commission.

2957
02:54:09,498 --> 02:54:11,438
Now, this renewal is

2958
02:54:12,468 --> 02:54:15,848
a transfer of sponsor, as

2959
02:54:15,988 --> 02:54:19,228
in May with Allen Village. So if you

2960
02:54:19,288 --> 02:54:23,188
remember, there was an application for a renewal in May

2961
02:54:23,228 --> 02:54:27,128
with Allen Village, who transferred sponsorship to the Missouri Charter

2962
02:54:27,228 --> 02:54:31,048
Public School Commission. Citizens has made the decision to move

2963
02:54:31,168 --> 02:54:34,868
forward with their next five years to

2964
02:54:34,908 --> 02:54:37,428
Kansas City Public Schools as their sponsor.

2965
02:54:37,948 --> 02:54:41,528
This renewal will highlight the data Citizens' last four

2966
02:54:41,688 --> 02:54:45,548
years, as in the last renewal presentation.

2967
02:54:46,158 --> 02:54:49,848
The biggest difference, again, is going to be the performance contract

2968
02:54:50,188 --> 02:54:53,288
that will move into the next five years that is

2969
02:54:54,008 --> 02:54:57,728
being established by the Kansas City Public

2970
02:54:57,808 --> 02:55:01,348
Schools. What you will see in this renewal is the

2971
02:55:01,428 --> 02:55:05,108
current performance contract, their performance goals, and where they

2972
02:55:05,208 --> 02:55:08,768
stand or stood with Missouri Charter Public School

2973
02:55:08,848 --> 02:55:10,588
Commission. Does that make sense?

2974
02:55:12,128 --> 02:55:15,688
It is a lot going on, but understand that

2975
02:55:15,988 --> 02:55:18,748
you're looking at the renewal with the commission

2976
02:55:19,988 --> 02:55:21,348
and what the commission

2977
02:55:22,888 --> 02:55:26,208
looked at when it was doing its annual review of this school.

2978
02:55:26,688 --> 02:55:30,488
And then at the end, you will see the performance contract and goals

2979
02:55:31,008 --> 02:55:34,648
that have been set forward for the next five years with Kansas City Public.

2980
02:55:34,828 --> 02:55:35,028
Yes.

2981
02:55:35,148 --> 02:55:36,608
Thank you for that clarification.

2982
02:55:36,628 --> 02:55:40,368
At this point, could you explain why this transfer is taking place

2983
02:55:41,008 --> 02:55:42,328
and why the sponsors are changing?

2984
02:55:42,588 --> 02:55:43,508
And I will let

2985
02:55:44,427 --> 02:55:46,997
Allison talk. She was going to talk a lot more about that

2986
02:55:48,208 --> 02:55:51,828
at the end of the presentation, but can you speak a little bit about that now?

2987
02:55:52,548 --> 02:55:52,808
Sure.

2988
02:55:54,228 --> 02:55:54,748
Either one?

2989
02:55:54,948 --> 02:55:55,168
Yes.

2990
02:55:55,348 --> 02:55:55,608
Okay.

2991
02:55:56,808 --> 02:56:00,528
So earlier in the year, the school decided

2992
02:56:00,868 --> 02:56:01,288
to

2993
02:56:03,648 --> 02:56:07,348
cut ties with their national charter organization and become a local

2994
02:56:07,528 --> 02:56:08,148
independent

2995
02:56:09,728 --> 02:56:11,628
public charter school. And so,

2996
02:56:13,168 --> 02:56:16,388
after doing that, they decided that they were going to

2997
02:56:16,948 --> 02:56:18,108
pursue

2998
02:56:18,948 --> 02:56:19,628
emerging

2999
02:56:20,488 --> 02:56:24,288
collaboration with another charter school that is in our system,

3000
02:56:24,548 --> 02:56:28,148
that's part of our portfolio. And so aligning with a common

3001
02:56:28,188 --> 02:56:28,788
sponsor

3002
02:56:30,208 --> 02:56:33,648
seemed to make sense. It would allow them to create some

3003
02:56:33,728 --> 02:56:37,628
operational efficiencies and to strengthen their academic

3004
02:56:38,028 --> 02:56:40,088
initiatives together under a common sponsor.

3005
02:56:40,188 --> 02:56:41,208
So that was

3006
02:56:42,608 --> 02:56:43,448
a lot of the decision.

3007
02:56:43,708 --> 02:56:45,708
And why are they leaving their national

3008
02:56:47,708 --> 02:56:48,528
organization?

3009
02:56:48,568 --> 02:56:49,148
Management.

3010
02:56:50,008 --> 02:56:50,938
The management company.

3011
02:56:50,938 --> 02:56:51,868
The national management organization.

3012
02:56:53,828 --> 02:56:56,268
They had spent 10 years with that organization.

3013
02:56:56,788 --> 02:57:00,648
They felt like they had grown. They were going

3014
02:57:00,748 --> 02:57:01,428
to

3015
02:57:02,348 --> 02:57:05,968
continue to grow, and I think economically or

3016
02:57:06,068 --> 02:57:09,088
financially, it was a good move for them to do so.

3017
02:57:09,478 --> 02:57:12,988
They were going to be able to keep 5% of their local aid,

3018
02:57:14,028 --> 02:57:17,668
and bring it back into their organization. So it made sense for them.

3019
02:57:18,418 --> 02:57:22,068
And we have history in Missouri of charter

3020
02:57:22,128 --> 02:57:26,008
schools starting out with their management company, helping them with the back

3021
02:57:26,088 --> 02:57:29,788
office things that they need as they open up and grow, and then

3022
02:57:29,808 --> 02:57:33,608
moving from those management companies to just stand on their own.

3023
02:57:33,948 --> 02:57:37,468
So this has happened in previous times as well.

3024
02:57:39,668 --> 02:57:43,548
So again, just like in the last presentation, you will see this information

3025
02:57:43,688 --> 02:57:47,628
is informational. It's not necessarily what the sponsor is looking at when it

3026
02:57:47,668 --> 02:57:51,508
comes to a renewal decision. So, we have

3027
02:57:51,588 --> 02:57:54,848
information here on their enrollment,

3028
02:57:56,568 --> 02:58:00,388
their demographics, and you'll see it next to the

3029
02:58:00,428 --> 02:58:02,208
local district as well as the state.

3030
02:58:04,628 --> 02:58:08,408
Their 90/90, which we talked about with the last

3031
02:58:09,448 --> 02:58:11,168
presentation. And

3032
02:58:12,188 --> 02:58:15,848
we will have more conversation when the sponsor gives

3033
02:58:15,928 --> 02:58:16,308
you

3034
02:58:17,488 --> 02:58:20,528
their reasoning, their process, all those things that go into their

3035
02:58:21,008 --> 02:58:21,508
goals.

3036
02:58:23,228 --> 02:58:27,208
And also, you have here the assessment or performance

3037
02:58:27,228 --> 02:58:30,408
information for ELA. You'll see

3038
02:58:31,408 --> 02:58:34,757
Citizens compared to the local district, compared to the state.

3039
02:58:35,848 --> 02:58:39,757
Again, that's more informational because in statute it doesn't say

3040
02:58:39,808 --> 02:58:42,808
that the school will be compared to the state, but the school is compared to the

3041
02:58:42,828 --> 02:58:43,488
local district.

3042
02:58:45,898 --> 02:58:46,868
Then we have math.

3043
02:58:48,308 --> 02:58:51,728
And then we move on to what the renewal requirements are,

3044
02:58:52,228 --> 02:58:55,808
which we talk about fiscal, we talk about academic, and we talk about

3045
02:58:55,868 --> 02:58:59,828
compliance. When looking at this renewal application, we really didn't see

3046
02:58:59,868 --> 02:59:01,528
any issues with any of these

3047
02:59:04,228 --> 02:59:08,028
considerations. The only thing is, is that they are moving to

3048
02:59:08,088 --> 02:59:11,348
another sponsor, and what their

3049
02:59:11,908 --> 02:59:15,688
current sponsor looked at and how that sponsor evaluated

3050
02:59:15,728 --> 02:59:15,988
them.

3051
02:59:21,168 --> 02:59:23,688
And here we have more information about finance.

3052
02:59:24,168 --> 02:59:28,068
Now, prior to 2025, the school leased its

3053
02:59:28,108 --> 02:59:31,888
facility through IFF. In the spring of 2025, the

3054
02:59:31,908 --> 02:59:35,048
school purchased the building, so you'll see some significant jumps

3055
02:59:35,668 --> 02:59:35,948
in

3056
02:59:38,268 --> 02:59:39,428
their finances here.

3057
02:59:42,228 --> 02:59:45,588
Again, we're looking at the fund balance, and the school has remained well above

3058
02:59:45,628 --> 02:59:48,388
the 3% fund balance required by public schools.

3059
02:59:50,527 --> 02:59:52,748
Now, this is what I was talking about at the beginning.

3060
02:59:53,228 --> 02:59:56,878
This is the performance contract with the commission, the Missouri Charter Public

3061
02:59:56,948 --> 03:00:00,608
School Commission, and this is their analysis of the

3062
03:00:00,648 --> 03:00:01,668
performance goals

3063
03:00:02,908 --> 03:00:06,528
with Citizens. So you'll see how they have

3064
03:00:06,568 --> 03:00:09,768
partially mets and mets in a lot of these

3065
03:00:09,828 --> 03:00:13,118
categories. Now, last time we talked about all

3066
03:00:14,128 --> 03:00:14,888
sponsors

3067
03:00:15,908 --> 03:00:19,788
have categories in academics, finance, learning,

3068
03:00:19,848 --> 03:00:21,408
governance, and operations.

3069
03:00:22,328 --> 03:00:24,588
Now, under that, they may have

3070
03:00:25,388 --> 03:00:28,448
five or six different goals that the

3071
03:00:29,308 --> 03:00:32,688
school needs to meet that will get you to that partial.

3072
03:00:33,608 --> 03:00:37,268
So not necessarily just as simplified as I have it

3073
03:00:37,328 --> 03:00:41,168
here, but more robust and a lot more things to

3074
03:00:41,228 --> 03:00:44,168
tick off when it comes to whether they met it or not.

3075
03:00:44,848 --> 03:00:48,568
And so we explain that here, those partially mets and what that

3076
03:00:48,628 --> 03:00:52,537
looks like. And we talk to the new sponsor about

3077
03:00:52,588 --> 03:00:56,478
what they're going to do to make sure that the school is meeting

3078
03:00:56,478 --> 03:01:00,128
these goals, and especially when it comes to their financial

3079
03:01:00,168 --> 03:01:03,088
goals and having that money on hand that they need.

3080
03:01:03,468 --> 03:01:07,428
So we had a conversation with the new sponsor to talk about what is that going

3081
03:01:07,448 --> 03:01:10,768
to look like moving forward, and what is that going to look like in your

3082
03:01:10,808 --> 03:01:14,508
performance goals. So, KCPS will talk more

3083
03:01:14,608 --> 03:01:17,108
about that once we finish our presentation.

3084
03:01:20,868 --> 03:01:24,588
And here are some of those goals that KCPS is putting

3085
03:01:24,688 --> 03:01:28,488
forth for Citizens. So you will see they have standards, and they

3086
03:01:28,548 --> 03:01:32,468
have their measures/evidence. Now, this is not

3087
03:01:32,648 --> 03:01:36,198
nearly all the things that KCPS is putting in their performance

3088
03:01:36,268 --> 03:01:40,198
contract, but this is just a simplified example of some of

3089
03:01:40,228 --> 03:01:44,168
the things that they're putting into their contract when it comes to Citizens and

3090
03:01:44,188 --> 03:01:45,308
what they expect to see.

3091
03:01:48,328 --> 03:01:50,588
So we're having the same recommendation here.

3092
03:01:51,128 --> 03:01:54,678
And again, this is not necessarily for academics, but the fact that they are

3093
03:01:54,708 --> 03:01:58,558
transferring to a new sponsor, so we can see what

3094
03:01:58,788 --> 03:02:00,928
that's going to look like moving forward.

3095
03:02:01,007 --> 03:02:02,808
So the recommendation is the same.

3096
03:02:03,118 --> 03:02:06,648
The sponsor, KCPS, recommends a five-year renewal.

3097
03:02:07,068 --> 03:02:10,828
This recommendation is based on the sponsor's analysis of the

3098
03:02:10,948 --> 03:02:13,308
comprehensive body of objective evidence.

3099
03:02:13,798 --> 03:02:17,678
The department presents KCPS's recommendation that

3100
03:02:17,708 --> 03:02:21,628
the State Board of Education authorize Citizens of the World, Kansas

3101
03:02:21,728 --> 03:02:25,308
City to continue operations pursuant to the charter renewal

3102
03:02:25,488 --> 03:02:29,028
granted by KCPS effective July 1st,

3103
03:02:29,668 --> 03:02:33,368
2026. And at the end of that, we are asking them to come

3104
03:02:33,468 --> 03:02:37,288
back with next year's data to give us a report on where they

3105
03:02:37,368 --> 03:02:39,568
see the school and how they see the school

3106
03:02:40,468 --> 03:02:42,258
performing moving forward.

3107
03:02:44,288 --> 03:02:48,048
And now I would like to turn it over to KCPS to give

3108
03:02:48,108 --> 03:02:52,048
you more information on their process as they looked

3109
03:02:52,088 --> 03:02:55,968
at this school and made the decision to take on this

3110
03:02:56,028 --> 03:02:57,068
new charter. So,

3111
03:02:58,708 --> 03:02:58,828
we'll-

3112
03:02:58,868 --> 03:03:01,568
Maybe before you start, I'll just,

3113
03:03:02,428 --> 03:03:03,788
a little bit more context.

3114
03:03:04,908 --> 03:03:08,668
Our level of concern around the

3115
03:03:08,708 --> 03:03:12,457
partially mets and the performance data that we see for this

3116
03:03:12,457 --> 03:03:16,368
particular renewal is not as high as it was for the last one

3117
03:03:16,408 --> 03:03:17,268
that we discussed.

3118
03:03:18,308 --> 03:03:21,868
So you have our read on this information.

3119
03:03:21,908 --> 03:03:22,478
Of course, we'll

3120
03:03:23,448 --> 03:03:25,768
ask you to make your own interpretation as you move forward.

3121
03:03:27,168 --> 03:03:27,428
Allison.

3122
03:03:27,688 --> 03:03:28,408
Okay, great.

3123
03:03:29,768 --> 03:03:32,548
So the school approached us, um

3124
03:03:33,376 --> 03:03:34,376
Probably January.

3125
03:03:35,196 --> 03:03:39,096
Oh, sorry. Forgot. The school approached us in January

3126
03:03:39,496 --> 03:03:43,316
about potential sponsorship, and so we began our process

3127
03:03:43,416 --> 03:03:44,476
of due diligence.

3128
03:03:45,356 --> 03:03:48,976
That included a meeting with the board chair, the

3129
03:03:49,516 --> 03:03:52,816
school leader, executive director, Dr.

3130
03:03:52,876 --> 03:03:55,616
Danielle Miles, doing a school visit,

3131
03:03:56,536 --> 03:03:59,316
and then just document reviews

3132
03:03:59,436 --> 03:04:01,416
of academic

3133
03:04:02,236 --> 03:04:04,856
documents, financial documents, operational

3134
03:04:05,796 --> 03:04:08,636
documents, reviewing their prior year

3135
03:04:09,896 --> 03:04:13,756
documents from the commission. And of course, we had established a

3136
03:04:14,356 --> 03:04:17,816
good working relationship with Citizens of the World, having

3137
03:04:18,296 --> 03:04:22,016
worked with them to pass the general obligation bond

3138
03:04:22,656 --> 03:04:23,796
in April of

3139
03:04:24,756 --> 03:04:27,236
2024, '5.

3140
03:04:29,816 --> 03:04:33,236
It was quite a year. And then also, we have

3141
03:04:33,356 --> 03:04:37,106
a collaboration council in Kansas City in which we meet with

3142
03:04:37,136 --> 03:04:40,876
charter leaders and KCPS leadership, and so we had a good

3143
03:04:40,916 --> 03:04:42,996
working relationship with them. So,

3144
03:04:43,896 --> 03:04:47,756
we did a review of that work. That is where internally we pulled in

3145
03:04:49,076 --> 03:04:52,636
internal folks from multiple departments to review this

3146
03:04:52,736 --> 03:04:53,076
data,

3147
03:04:54,396 --> 03:04:57,996
and looking at their academic performance, their finance performance,

3148
03:04:58,736 --> 03:05:01,426
their operational documents, their board governance documents,

3149
03:05:02,556 --> 03:05:05,576
really digging into that information

3150
03:05:05,636 --> 03:05:09,196
and seeing from that

3151
03:05:09,236 --> 03:05:13,146
perspective, really no concerns when it came to academics

3152
03:05:13,676 --> 03:05:15,616
or finances. Good audits.

3153
03:05:16,696 --> 03:05:17,176
Their

3154
03:05:18,896 --> 03:05:22,596
board governance things are online, transparent, everything

3155
03:05:22,676 --> 03:05:23,696
is shared.

3156
03:05:25,396 --> 03:05:28,756
So we really felt like everything was,

3157
03:05:31,816 --> 03:05:33,836
I think, very clear and,

3158
03:05:37,536 --> 03:05:41,496
I don't want to say above board, but everything was very clear, and we felt

3159
03:05:41,535 --> 03:05:44,276
good about it. So brought that to our

3160
03:05:47,296 --> 03:05:51,256
board and got approval, and so that is part of the

3161
03:05:51,296 --> 03:05:53,176
process that we followed in order to

3162
03:05:54,896 --> 03:05:58,636
move forward with this. So, I think we feel like

3163
03:05:58,696 --> 03:06:00,296
they're going to be good partners.

3164
03:06:00,336 --> 03:06:00,846
We have

3165
03:06:02,496 --> 03:06:06,346
very similar alignment when it comes to educating the

3166
03:06:06,376 --> 03:06:08,576
whole child, rigorous curriculum.

3167
03:06:10,096 --> 03:06:13,356
They have very strong beliefs when it comes to

3168
03:06:13,776 --> 03:06:14,956
restorative justice,

3169
03:06:16,616 --> 03:06:18,316
and really, I think,

3170
03:06:19,516 --> 03:06:20,996
student ownership of their own learning.

3171
03:06:21,536 --> 03:06:21,776
So,

3172
03:06:22,716 --> 03:06:26,056
they're also in a community in Kansas City that does not have a neighborhood

3173
03:06:26,116 --> 03:06:29,996
school, and we feel very strongly that that is a great addition to our portfolio,

3174
03:06:30,456 --> 03:06:34,336
where they are located, and now being a local and an

3175
03:06:34,436 --> 03:06:37,376
independent school in that space is really

3176
03:06:38,156 --> 03:06:41,756
important for that community and covering that neighborhood.

3177
03:06:44,156 --> 03:06:47,916
They offer supports. They have a large population

3178
03:06:48,016 --> 03:06:51,545
of McKinney-Vento students. 10% of their students are

3179
03:06:51,556 --> 03:06:55,396
McKinney-Vento and are serviced. Mm-hmm.

3180
03:06:55,536 --> 03:06:56,316
Yes.

3181
03:06:56,356 --> 03:06:56,796
What is that?

3182
03:06:57,156 --> 03:07:00,516
Oh, McKinney-Vento, students that are unhoused.

3183
03:07:02,316 --> 03:07:06,036
And they also have a large portion of their students that

3184
03:07:06,156 --> 03:07:09,316
have IEPs.

3185
03:07:09,896 --> 03:07:11,876
So they really service a

3186
03:07:13,436 --> 03:07:17,376
portion of the community that is very similar to ours and work hard to make sure

3187
03:07:17,456 --> 03:07:19,056
that they are servicing those students.

3188
03:07:19,536 --> 03:07:23,356
So their beliefs and philosophy is very similar to

3189
03:07:23,396 --> 03:07:25,596
KCPS as well. So we really feel,

3190
03:07:26,556 --> 03:07:28,796
I think, a very strong partnership with them

3191
03:07:30,396 --> 03:07:31,456
in that way as well. So.

3192
03:07:34,796 --> 03:07:35,456
Any questions?

3193
03:07:37,956 --> 03:07:38,596
Mrs. Casey.

3194
03:07:39,276 --> 03:07:43,216
Thank you, President Miller. And thank you for that and for your

3195
03:07:45,096 --> 03:07:49,026
straightforward input about why the sponsorship is changing, et

3196
03:07:49,076 --> 03:07:52,256
cetera. And I do think there's a lot of value in that local community

3197
03:07:52,355 --> 03:07:55,996
relationship, the collaboration, the partnership that you've had.

3198
03:07:56,776 --> 03:08:00,276
If you could go back to slide 13, which is the new

3199
03:08:00,376 --> 03:08:04,256
performance contract highlights, and if you could maybe first

3200
03:08:04,316 --> 03:08:07,376
just clarify for me, are you saying that,

3201
03:08:08,616 --> 03:08:12,336
or the way I am interpreting this, that your expectation is just they'll

3202
03:08:12,396 --> 03:08:12,676
just

3203
03:08:14,236 --> 03:08:17,856
continue to do what they're doing and fall into those categories

3204
03:08:17,956 --> 03:08:21,226
and your goal is that they'll be as good as

3205
03:08:21,236 --> 03:08:22,136
KCPS?

3206
03:08:23,876 --> 03:08:27,776
We provide supports along the way, so it wouldn't

3207
03:08:27,816 --> 03:08:29,626
be a hands-off relationship if that's-

3208
03:08:29,656 --> 03:08:29,976
Mm-hmm

3209
03:08:30,056 --> 03:08:30,495
... No.

3210
03:08:32,096 --> 03:08:32,456
Did you want to-

3211
03:08:32,916 --> 03:08:36,116
Well, really what I'm getting at is what are your specific goals?

3212
03:08:36,196 --> 03:08:40,156
What are your expectations for the students of Citizens of the

3213
03:08:40,236 --> 03:08:42,076
World to achieve-

3214
03:08:42,336 --> 03:08:42,506
Mm-hmm

3215
03:08:42,596 --> 03:08:43,875
... in their academic outcomes?

3216
03:08:44,856 --> 03:08:48,676
So they have set forth goals, and they have school-specific goals as

3217
03:08:48,716 --> 03:08:51,076
well. So they're looking at

3218
03:08:52,056 --> 03:08:55,756
changing from advanced proficient to looking at MPI

3219
03:08:55,836 --> 03:08:59,796
growth, which I appreciate. That means they're looking at students

3220
03:08:59,876 --> 03:09:03,656
growing out of all categories and not just focusing on

3221
03:09:03,756 --> 03:09:05,816
proficient, advanced, and those higher categories.

3222
03:09:06,436 --> 03:09:08,416
They're continuing to look at students

3223
03:09:09,856 --> 03:09:10,396
and

3224
03:09:11,636 --> 03:09:15,096
the chronically absent, so lowering the percent of students that are chronically

3225
03:09:15,176 --> 03:09:18,276
absent. They do tend to look more at

3226
03:09:19,796 --> 03:09:23,756
the ADA attendance, so average daily attendance over

3227
03:09:23,766 --> 03:09:26,696
proportional attendance, because budgets are based on that.

3228
03:09:28,176 --> 03:09:30,116
So they do have an attendance goal.

3229
03:09:30,156 --> 03:09:32,696
They do have an attendance or a-

3230
03:09:34,660 --> 03:09:38,480
Sorry, an academic goal that's based on subgroup performance as well, which is very

3231
03:09:38,520 --> 03:09:42,440
important. They focus very much on making sure that

3232
03:09:42,460 --> 03:09:46,440
they're paying attention to the performance of historically marginalized

3233
03:09:46,760 --> 03:09:47,360
student groups.

3234
03:09:48,740 --> 03:09:52,020
So what we do then is, of course, we have

3235
03:09:53,580 --> 03:09:56,520
monthly meetings with our sponsor charters.

3236
03:09:57,300 --> 03:10:00,960
So we're collaborating monthly with our sponsor charters.

3237
03:10:02,260 --> 03:10:03,160
We also are,

3238
03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:07,880
of course, as a sponsor, available with our content area

3239
03:10:08,000 --> 03:10:11,910
experts. We have monthly collaboration meetings where we're working with this

3240
03:10:12,780 --> 03:10:16,220
and problems of practice, things like chronic

3241
03:10:16,280 --> 03:10:20,200
absenteeism amongst our system. One thing I noticed as I was

3242
03:10:21,680 --> 03:10:25,520
looking at that slide is only seven out of the 20

3243
03:10:26,620 --> 03:10:30,580
systems in Kansas City, or LEAs in Kansas City, got two or more

3244
03:10:30,700 --> 03:10:34,020
of the four points available on

3245
03:10:34,080 --> 03:10:38,039
the APR. So two-thirds of the system

3246
03:10:38,100 --> 03:10:41,960
is struggling with proportional attendance or the way

3247
03:10:42,040 --> 03:10:43,980
we measure proportional attendance.

3248
03:10:44,520 --> 03:10:48,440
So it is something that the system needs to figure

3249
03:10:48,500 --> 03:10:50,700
out how we're going to work on that.

3250
03:10:50,780 --> 03:10:54,720
So it's not a matter of, "Good luck to you.

3251
03:10:55,180 --> 03:10:59,000
Here's your goals. Good luck to you." How are we going to work on

3252
03:10:59,060 --> 03:10:59,600
this together?

3253
03:10:59,820 --> 03:11:03,800
Yeah. And I appreciate that. And maybe it's just the format or the approach in

3254
03:11:03,850 --> 03:11:07,400
the presentation, but do you, as a sponsor,

3255
03:11:07,600 --> 03:11:11,030
have specific academic outcome goals by year,

3256
03:11:11,700 --> 03:11:13,690
much back to Pam's point earlier.

3257
03:11:16,360 --> 03:11:17,840
It's one thing to say

3258
03:11:18,680 --> 03:11:22,600
that it looks like you've just restated what the categories are

3259
03:11:22,680 --> 03:11:26,660
here, but what are the specific academic outcome goals in

3260
03:11:26,700 --> 03:11:30,380
ELA, in math, in science, and in

3261
03:11:30,480 --> 03:11:33,080
social studies as to

3262
03:11:33,920 --> 03:11:36,240
achievement and when you will get there?

3263
03:11:36,280 --> 03:11:38,180
In other words, specifics.

3264
03:11:38,680 --> 03:11:39,000
Yeah.

3265
03:11:39,020 --> 03:11:40,780
Pam, maybe you can add.

3266
03:11:40,980 --> 03:11:44,320
Yeah. I'm just blown away at just how we zoom in on the

3267
03:11:44,760 --> 03:11:45,620
same stuff.

3268
03:11:46,680 --> 03:11:50,289
And I think what's troubling us is

3269
03:11:51,680 --> 03:11:55,280
this looks like just a

3270
03:11:55,360 --> 03:11:58,220
restatement of the left side, and

3271
03:11:58,280 --> 03:12:02,260
there's no meat to how you're going

3272
03:12:02,380 --> 03:12:06,300
to grow students, improve academic outcome, by

3273
03:12:06,420 --> 03:12:09,940
what percentage, when, what are your projections, what are your goals?

3274
03:12:10,960 --> 03:12:12,180
And we're looking at the

3275
03:12:13,440 --> 03:12:15,620
academic performance, and we're troubled.

3276
03:12:16,080 --> 03:12:19,400
And we're trying to figure out what are you going to do differently and it's just

3277
03:12:19,460 --> 03:12:20,080
not here.

3278
03:12:20,920 --> 03:12:23,400
So we need you to tell us what you're going to do.

3279
03:12:24,120 --> 03:12:27,940
And I will add, the academic outcomes

3280
03:12:28,880 --> 03:12:32,760
based on achievement, the MAP scores

3281
03:12:32,860 --> 03:12:36,780
as presented for the 2025 data, they are better

3282
03:12:36,789 --> 03:12:37,180
than

3283
03:12:38,060 --> 03:12:38,760
Kansas City.

3284
03:12:40,740 --> 03:12:44,680
But unless you have a specific goal, and we all want our children to

3285
03:12:44,700 --> 03:12:46,740
achieve excellence, all children,

3286
03:12:47,740 --> 03:12:51,380
so what are the goals to get to all children achieving excellence?

3287
03:12:53,220 --> 03:12:56,680
And I just don't see that. And maybe it's just a factor they're there in the

3288
03:12:56,740 --> 03:13:00,540
contract, but they're not being presented to us, and that's a

3289
03:13:00,600 --> 03:13:03,400
factor of the presentation, that we need

3290
03:13:04,340 --> 03:13:08,140
to see specifics. Were you going

3291
03:13:08,180 --> 03:13:08,880
to s-

3292
03:13:09,320 --> 03:13:11,750
Maybe let me reframe, if that helps.

3293
03:13:11,780 --> 03:13:11,790
Mm-hmm.

3294
03:13:12,980 --> 03:13:16,800
So do you have goals across the five-year renewal period for the

3295
03:13:16,860 --> 03:13:19,040
percent of students scoring-

3296
03:13:19,240 --> 03:13:19,849
The school does

3297
03:13:19,849 --> 03:13:20,400
... proficient or higher?

3298
03:13:20,460 --> 03:13:21,030
The school does.

3299
03:13:21,240 --> 03:13:21,510
The school has it.

3300
03:13:21,510 --> 03:13:23,680
It's in the school's specific goals, yes.

3301
03:13:23,720 --> 03:13:27,680
Right. And we're approving or being asked to approve,

3302
03:13:27,720 --> 03:13:31,580
in this case, and because it came to us in this form

3303
03:13:31,620 --> 03:13:35,140
of the agenda, that

3304
03:13:37,820 --> 03:13:41,560
based on your recommendation, and your recommendation being based on

3305
03:13:41,640 --> 03:13:45,610
the contract that you have in place, which includes the

3306
03:13:46,220 --> 03:13:50,120
expectation in academic outcomes, and I'm asking

3307
03:13:50,180 --> 03:13:54,040
what is that expectation? Unless someone knows where they're going, they're not

3308
03:13:54,060 --> 03:13:56,380
going to get there. And we should

3309
03:13:59,260 --> 03:14:01,820
have high expectations, very high,

3310
03:14:02,940 --> 03:14:06,860
so that we can achieve the best, and I just don't see what those

3311
03:14:06,870 --> 03:14:08,020
expectations are.

3312
03:14:10,600 --> 03:14:10,760
And

3313
03:14:12,760 --> 03:14:14,660
I don't have that.

3314
03:14:16,220 --> 03:14:18,080
I think it's in my folder that's sitting at my chair.

3315
03:14:18,500 --> 03:14:19,280
So they have

3316
03:14:20,200 --> 03:14:23,780
goals for ELA and math to move

3317
03:14:24,120 --> 03:14:24,480
to

3318
03:14:25,400 --> 03:14:29,140
on target by year five of their contract

3319
03:14:29,180 --> 03:14:31,020
for ELA and math.

3320
03:14:34,860 --> 03:14:38,610
Well, and I appreciate that, and it's

3321
03:14:38,680 --> 03:14:42,520
more to the department that we need to be looking at it in

3322
03:14:42,600 --> 03:14:44,420
that way in our future presentations.

3323
03:14:44,460 --> 03:14:48,340
And I would just say to any sponsor that this is a really

3324
03:14:48,360 --> 03:14:52,200
important job that you have and that you should,

3325
03:14:52,480 --> 03:14:56,440
not calling yourself out here, and you're brand new to this school as

3326
03:14:56,540 --> 03:15:00,220
well, and I appreciate it, but we should have an expectation of every

3327
03:15:00,260 --> 03:15:03,660
sponsor to have a specific target,

3328
03:15:04,300 --> 03:15:08,080
and academic outcomes is the most important thing that we can be focused

3329
03:15:08,200 --> 03:15:11,840
on. Obviously, there's supporting factors that we have to look at.

3330
03:15:11,860 --> 03:15:14,510
But there should be specific targets, and they should

3331
03:15:14,560 --> 03:15:16,560
be,

3332
03:15:18,540 --> 03:15:22,300
we refer to them as stretch targets or SMART goals, but they need to

3333
03:15:22,360 --> 03:15:26,300
be significant targets that are set for

3334
03:15:26,380 --> 03:15:30,120
our schools across the state to be

3335
03:15:30,200 --> 03:15:32,500
achieving in academic outcomes.

3336
03:15:33,380 --> 03:15:37,300
And as a sponsor of a school, you should know what they are for

3337
03:15:37,340 --> 03:15:38,240
each of your schools.

3338
03:15:40,116 --> 03:15:43,996
Yes. May I comment? I think you are absolutely right, and we had the start of this

3339
03:15:44,036 --> 03:15:47,416
conversation this past week with

3340
03:15:47,916 --> 03:15:51,716
Lisa and Shanika, and I think it goes back to if the authority of this

3341
03:15:51,756 --> 03:15:55,116
board is to determine whether or not the

3342
03:15:55,276 --> 03:15:55,916
sponsor

3343
03:15:57,176 --> 03:16:00,916
met all of its responsibilities, if we don't know what the

3344
03:16:00,956 --> 03:16:04,916
sponsor set for that school, then we don't know if they met it or

3345
03:16:04,996 --> 03:16:08,735
not. If the sponsor says, "Yes, we told them they had to do this, and they

3346
03:16:08,976 --> 03:16:12,796
did," if it's vague, we don't have a good measure for that.

3347
03:16:12,856 --> 03:16:16,496
But yet if the sponsor says, "Our goal was to improve

3348
03:16:16,616 --> 03:16:19,056
to X number of students being proficient.

3349
03:16:19,676 --> 03:16:23,636
They did that, so we approved that," or, "They didn't do that, and here's

3350
03:16:23,656 --> 03:16:27,496
what we did." You're looking for those kinds of specifics because

3351
03:16:27,596 --> 03:16:31,016
that's what Shanika will be looking at when she's

3352
03:16:31,036 --> 03:16:34,436
evaluating whether or not they did their due diligence is whether or not they had

3353
03:16:34,556 --> 03:16:38,405
specific goals with specific targets, with specific dates,

3354
03:16:38,526 --> 03:16:41,536
and did they meet them, and what happens either way?

3355
03:16:41,916 --> 03:16:42,136
Is that-

3356
03:16:42,396 --> 03:16:44,996
Exactly. And that is when it relates to a school.

3357
03:16:45,036 --> 03:16:47,036
And then when we're evaluating a sponsor-

3358
03:16:47,336 --> 03:16:47,676
Excellent

3359
03:16:47,736 --> 03:16:49,396
... are they being effective as a sponsor?

3360
03:16:49,446 --> 03:16:53,436
To set a mediocre goal is not being effective, but to set a

3361
03:16:53,476 --> 03:16:57,416
goal of excellence is. And then what have they done to support their school

3362
03:16:57,436 --> 03:16:58,296
to achieve that?

3363
03:16:58,856 --> 03:17:01,176
Exactly. And this is not their

3364
03:17:01,696 --> 03:17:05,156
entire performance goal contract.

3365
03:17:05,516 --> 03:17:09,096
As I stated, this is just some specifics that were pulled

3366
03:17:09,216 --> 03:17:13,146
out. So the way that their performance goal, and this is their,

3367
03:17:13,256 --> 03:17:17,026
meaning Kansas City Public's performance goals are set up, it is

3368
03:17:17,496 --> 03:17:21,376
very much, "Here's academics, and then A,

3369
03:17:21,496 --> 03:17:25,436
B, C, D, E, F, G needs to be met to even meet the goal

3370
03:17:25,496 --> 03:17:28,276
of academics." So that's the way they set theirs up.

3371
03:17:28,356 --> 03:17:30,356
It doesn't look like this here, so you're right.

3372
03:17:32,376 --> 03:17:36,236
We're just showing you a highlighted version of that, of

3373
03:17:36,336 --> 03:17:40,116
what we're seeing when we see their renewals.

3374
03:17:40,176 --> 03:17:40,946
So, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to-

3375
03:17:40,946 --> 03:17:42,326
Mr. Bradford. No problem.

3376
03:17:43,136 --> 03:17:43,976
A few things.

3377
03:17:45,596 --> 03:17:49,295
The information, and I don't know if this is a required template that's

3378
03:17:49,396 --> 03:17:50,896
used here, but it seems like

3379
03:17:52,076 --> 03:17:54,555
there are a few good things that are happening, but they're not highlighted.

3380
03:17:54,636 --> 03:17:58,516
I had to dig to find those. So I want to know how that can be

3381
03:17:58,596 --> 03:18:02,416
reframed and positioned so that we can be a little bit more efficient in looking at

3382
03:18:02,456 --> 03:18:04,396
what we're looking at, and to make a decision.

3383
03:18:05,996 --> 03:18:09,136
Secondly, I noticed it's

3384
03:18:09,676 --> 03:18:13,606
partially met from an academic perspective for the last five years or

3385
03:18:13,716 --> 03:18:16,656
so, and just echoing, what are we going to do to

3386
03:18:16,696 --> 03:18:18,676
drill down

3387
03:18:19,556 --> 03:18:21,116
how we get over the hump there?

3388
03:18:22,536 --> 03:18:25,536
So I digress, but that's just something I had in my mind.

3389
03:18:27,196 --> 03:18:29,816
What I would like to be explained to me, if you will,

3390
03:18:30,756 --> 03:18:34,476
on the financial management piece, it started out partially met.

3391
03:18:34,836 --> 03:18:36,216
It seemed like there was some improvement.

3392
03:18:36,726 --> 03:18:40,276
'23 to '24 it was met, and then it was partially met

3393
03:18:40,286 --> 03:18:41,376
'24, '25.

3394
03:18:42,436 --> 03:18:46,266
Why is that, and could you explain what

3395
03:18:46,316 --> 03:18:47,796
that means to the overall picture?

3396
03:18:48,376 --> 03:18:51,956
And so this is one of those things that we talked about the sponsor with when it

3397
03:18:52,016 --> 03:18:54,936
came to looking at their renewal application.

3398
03:18:55,316 --> 03:18:59,296
So one area of concern was the school's failure to maintain 60

3399
03:18:59,396 --> 03:19:03,276
days of cash on hand during the '21, '22

3400
03:19:03,356 --> 03:19:07,216
fiscal year, as required by the performance contract, and this was the performance

3401
03:19:07,256 --> 03:19:11,236
contract of their last sponsor. Since fiscal year '22,

3402
03:19:11,316 --> 03:19:15,156
the school has consistently met and exceeded the 60-day cash on hand

3403
03:19:15,516 --> 03:19:19,336
requirement, demonstrating strengthened

3404
03:19:19,696 --> 03:19:22,176
financial management and fiscal stability.

3405
03:19:22,716 --> 03:19:26,316
So they have improved. In response, the school

3406
03:19:26,396 --> 03:19:30,296
has partnered closely with its financial services provider

3407
03:19:30,376 --> 03:19:33,736
to better understand and monitor these long-term

3408
03:19:34,476 --> 03:19:37,416
sustainability indicators.

3409
03:19:38,376 --> 03:19:42,316
Enhancing financial planning, regular review of key fiscal

3410
03:19:42,776 --> 03:19:46,526
matrix, and ongoing collaboration with the sponsor have been

3411
03:19:46,576 --> 03:19:50,396
implemented to ensure the school maintains strong financial health and meets

3412
03:19:50,516 --> 03:19:53,616
all accountability and expectations moving forward.

3413
03:19:54,076 --> 03:19:57,956
So yes, we did see that. This is one of those things where I

3414
03:19:58,016 --> 03:20:01,976
say, "Yes, I see this. Now, sponsor, tell me what's

3415
03:20:01,996 --> 03:20:05,876
going on with this." So that is one of the things, and this was answered

3416
03:20:05,916 --> 03:20:09,476
by KCPS because, again, they had to go in and do their due

3417
03:20:09,576 --> 03:20:13,556
diligence when they're looking at, "Are we going to take this school on, and what

3418
03:20:13,596 --> 03:20:17,496
does this look like?" And they looked at the sponsor, the commission who was the

3419
03:20:17,536 --> 03:20:21,256
sponsor prior to, they looked at the information the commission had

3420
03:20:21,576 --> 03:20:22,276
and said, "Okay,

3421
03:20:23,296 --> 03:20:25,996
what's going on here?" And they talked to the school about it.

3422
03:20:26,406 --> 03:20:29,896
So these are the responses coming from KCPS

3423
03:20:30,256 --> 03:20:32,616
saying, "Yes, we did talk to them about that.

3424
03:20:32,916 --> 03:20:36,876
Here's what's going on." So yes, this is one of those

3425
03:20:36,896 --> 03:20:40,666
things that happens during the process of renewal when we're looking at

3426
03:20:40,736 --> 03:20:43,956
this and then meeting with the sponsor to go over their

3427
03:20:43,996 --> 03:20:44,876
recommendation.

3428
03:20:47,896 --> 03:20:49,656
Thank you. I appreciate the response.

3429
03:20:49,696 --> 03:20:50,736
Are there other questions?

3430
03:20:50,836 --> 03:20:51,276
Transparency.

3431
03:20:52,056 --> 03:20:55,856
Is there a motion that someone would like to make for this

3432
03:20:56,016 --> 03:20:56,476
project?

3433
03:20:59,156 --> 03:21:00,236
I move to

3434
03:21:01,376 --> 03:21:04,296
accept the recommendation as made.

3435
03:21:05,916 --> 03:21:06,236
Second.

3436
03:21:06,896 --> 03:21:10,836
Okay. We have a motion and a second, and that does address

3437
03:21:10,856 --> 03:21:13,596
your issue that they come back and

3438
03:21:14,636 --> 03:21:15,296
re-present.

3439
03:21:15,496 --> 03:21:15,896
Mm-hmm.

3440
03:21:15,996 --> 03:21:16,376
Yes, it does.

3441
03:21:16,396 --> 03:21:16,596
Okay.

3442
03:21:17,736 --> 03:21:18,896
Is there any further discussion?

3443
03:21:21,736 --> 03:21:23,076
Hearing none, all those in favor?

3444
03:21:23,476 --> 03:21:23,656
Aye.

3445
03:21:23,736 --> 03:21:24,196
Aye.

3446
03:21:24,256 --> 03:21:24,696
Aye.

3447
03:21:24,776 --> 03:21:25,556
Any opposition?

3448
03:21:26,636 --> 03:21:27,166
Hearing none.

3449
03:21:29,336 --> 03:21:30,716
Thank you very much for your presentation.

3450
03:21:30,756 --> 03:21:31,176
Thank you.

3451
03:21:31,496 --> 03:21:31,586
Happy-

3452
03:21:31,676 --> 03:21:32,156
Thank you.

3453
03:21:32,216 --> 03:21:32,226
Thank you.

3454
03:21:32,226 --> 03:21:32,616
Thank you.

3455
03:21:38,456 --> 03:21:39,336
Who do we have-

3456
03:21:40,824 --> 03:21:42,464
Perry's pretty quick, I think.

3457
03:21:43,314 --> 03:21:44,844
The budget probably won't be.

3458
03:21:44,944 --> 03:21:48,844
Yeah, no. I was thinking about right bef-- Well, so after we get Perry done.

3459
03:21:49,374 --> 03:21:49,374
Okay.

3460
03:21:49,404 --> 03:21:49,484
Yeah.

3461
03:21:49,584 --> 03:21:50,083
It fits here.

3462
03:21:50,684 --> 03:21:50,824
Hmm?

3463
03:21:51,594 --> 03:21:51,654
It fits here.

3464
03:21:51,654 --> 03:21:51,924
Okay.

3465
03:21:53,684 --> 03:21:56,044
So there's only one thing between us and lunch, right?

3466
03:21:58,164 --> 03:21:58,544
You.

3467
03:21:58,984 --> 03:21:59,264
Yeah.

3468
03:22:02,244 --> 03:22:03,784
Good morning, Perry Goerl here,

3469
03:22:05,044 --> 03:22:08,944
program administrator of Career and Technical Education, and interim-

3470
03:22:09,714 --> 03:22:11,504
... chief of Governmental Relations.

3471
03:22:14,624 --> 03:22:18,604
So, as you all know, the legislative session has concluded, and so I

3472
03:22:18,624 --> 03:22:22,504
want to just give a very brief about legislation that passed that will

3473
03:22:22,644 --> 03:22:26,204
impact the department, and things that will be coming across your plate.

3474
03:22:27,844 --> 03:22:30,194
There were a total of one, two, three, four, five...

3475
03:22:30,304 --> 03:22:33,204
It looks like about seven different bills have had educational

3476
03:22:34,424 --> 03:22:37,984
things within it, but there are three bills that you will see

3477
03:22:38,344 --> 03:22:42,204
here in the future as it goes through, possibly, rule-making authority, or

3478
03:22:42,344 --> 03:22:44,803
a new decision item when it comes to the budget.

3479
03:22:45,784 --> 03:22:49,484
That first bill is Senate Bill 863, and that's where it

3480
03:22:49,524 --> 03:22:53,324
establishes the Interscholastic Activities Association Oversight

3481
03:22:53,384 --> 03:22:53,924
Commission.

3482
03:22:55,244 --> 03:22:58,164
We will be going through the rule-making authority, possibly,

3483
03:22:59,264 --> 03:23:03,004
but we will be creating a system of appeals for,

3484
03:23:03,844 --> 03:23:07,074
as commonly known, the Missouri State High School Activities

3485
03:23:07,144 --> 03:23:08,104
Associations.

3486
03:23:09,004 --> 03:23:11,144
We will create an appeals committee for

3487
03:23:12,284 --> 03:23:15,644
eligibility and for other events that may

3488
03:23:15,704 --> 03:23:17,664
arise during the course of the year.

3489
03:23:18,364 --> 03:23:19,924
And so we'll be working through that.

3490
03:23:20,384 --> 03:23:24,084
The other one is the agriculture education program in

3491
03:23:24,164 --> 03:23:28,024
elementary schools, changing it from a pilot project to a statewide

3492
03:23:28,044 --> 03:23:28,584
program.

3493
03:23:29,444 --> 03:23:32,784
This will be a new decision item that you will see in the future.

3494
03:23:33,464 --> 03:23:34,704
It's not a high

3495
03:23:35,564 --> 03:23:39,324
new decision item. I think it'll have a new decision item

3496
03:23:39,364 --> 03:23:42,764
maybe around $250,000 total in its beginning.

3497
03:23:43,884 --> 03:23:47,844
But what it will do is bring in a collaborative effort of the different ag

3498
03:23:47,884 --> 03:23:51,774
education programs in the elementary that are being provided in the

3499
03:23:51,804 --> 03:23:54,184
elementary setting, and creating

3500
03:23:54,304 --> 03:23:58,024
resources for them,

3501
03:23:58,224 --> 03:24:01,753
but also an individual that will help work with these organizations to

3502
03:24:01,844 --> 03:24:04,844
streamline it to our school districts across the state.

3503
03:24:06,044 --> 03:24:09,994
And then the last bill that was passed is House Bill 2061,

3504
03:24:10,224 --> 03:24:10,444
which

3505
03:24:11,684 --> 03:24:15,564
provides protections against discrimination of anti-Semitic

3506
03:24:16,524 --> 03:24:20,313
activities in schools. And so, there will be a reporting

3507
03:24:20,424 --> 03:24:24,064
process for school districts back here to the Department of Elementary and

3508
03:24:24,164 --> 03:24:27,664
Secondary Education, where we will have our Title VI

3509
03:24:28,004 --> 03:24:29,964
compliance officer investigate those.

3510
03:24:30,444 --> 03:24:34,304
And then if deemed the policies are being broken or have been broken with school

3511
03:24:34,344 --> 03:24:38,324
districts, there is a reporting process through the Department of Justice from

3512
03:24:38,364 --> 03:24:40,044
there. So, those are the

3513
03:24:41,304 --> 03:24:41,944
highlights.

3514
03:24:42,804 --> 03:24:44,824
I want to talk a little bit about what's ahead

3515
03:24:46,044 --> 03:24:47,784
for you all to start thinking about.

3516
03:24:48,164 --> 03:24:51,494
We all know that come August 4th there is a primary election,

3517
03:24:52,084 --> 03:24:52,724
and so

3518
03:24:53,964 --> 03:24:56,464
all the seats in the House side are up for re-election.

3519
03:24:57,144 --> 03:24:57,484
And

3520
03:24:58,584 --> 03:25:01,384
the reason why I want to share that also is that our committee

3521
03:25:01,484 --> 03:25:05,144
chairmanships will be changing as well.

3522
03:25:05,464 --> 03:25:09,324
The current Education Committee on the House side chairman is running for the

3523
03:25:09,364 --> 03:25:12,504
Senate, so there will be a new House Education

3524
03:25:13,364 --> 03:25:17,204
Committee chairman for the FY27

3525
03:25:17,244 --> 03:25:21,124
legislative session, and who that will be is to be determined

3526
03:25:21,184 --> 03:25:25,044
yet. We do not know who that is. There's not a rumor on the

3527
03:25:25,124 --> 03:25:28,304
street of who that might be. And so, that will be

3528
03:25:29,164 --> 03:25:32,124
a change, but there also may be a new Senate

3529
03:25:32,724 --> 03:25:35,884
education chairman as the current education

3530
03:25:37,324 --> 03:25:41,304
chairman of the Senate is also running for US Congress, so there is a possibility

3531
03:25:41,344 --> 03:25:45,144
that there may be two new education chairmans within the House

3532
03:25:46,024 --> 03:25:47,124
or the House and the Senate.

3533
03:25:48,194 --> 03:25:52,024
The budget chair will also be new this year, and so

3534
03:25:52,504 --> 03:25:56,124
that position has actually been named, but it is always

3535
03:25:56,164 --> 03:25:59,304
contingent on being elected to the House seat.

3536
03:25:59,754 --> 03:26:03,584
And so time will tell on that. And so, along with this

3537
03:26:03,644 --> 03:26:07,584
election year, a lot of the focus is going to be in and around the August

3538
03:26:07,784 --> 03:26:11,004
4th, because ultimately then those conversations are going to

3539
03:26:11,364 --> 03:26:15,134
revolve around, no matter what happens on August the

3540
03:26:15,364 --> 03:26:19,044
4th, election-wise, and the different amendments, is that

3541
03:26:19,984 --> 03:26:22,844
the state of Missouri is approaching budget reductions.

3542
03:26:22,884 --> 03:26:26,344
And so when we talk about future legislation and these

3543
03:26:26,424 --> 03:26:29,984
chairmans and things moving out, many pieces of

3544
03:26:30,024 --> 03:26:33,764
legislations will not be able to have a high fiscal note,

3545
03:26:34,324 --> 03:26:38,084
because we're going to be talking about budget reductions in the

3546
03:26:38,124 --> 03:26:39,104
years to come.

3547
03:26:40,184 --> 03:26:43,544
If you were to ask me what's going to be things that are going to be talked about

3548
03:26:43,584 --> 03:26:47,554
in the future and next legislative session, I will share with you, I

3549
03:26:47,564 --> 03:26:50,764
believe open enrollment will come back to the forefront.

3550
03:26:51,124 --> 03:26:52,244
The election will be done.

3551
03:26:53,244 --> 03:26:55,444
The current main sponsor of the

3552
03:26:56,244 --> 03:26:59,744
open enrollment over the past several years is running for a Senate seat.

3553
03:27:00,264 --> 03:27:04,184
And so, because of that, the open enrollment just really

3554
03:27:04,204 --> 03:27:08,104
didn't come to the forefront. But next year, we will see open enrollment

3555
03:27:08,144 --> 03:27:09,384
to be a topic again.

3556
03:27:10,584 --> 03:27:12,024
School accountability measures.

3557
03:27:13,224 --> 03:27:17,024
We have the executive order that we intend to deliver

3558
03:27:17,064 --> 03:27:19,844
on. Those school accountability,

3559
03:27:20,164 --> 03:27:23,834
same school accountability measure was

3560
03:27:24,444 --> 03:27:25,864
legislation this past year.

3561
03:27:26,664 --> 03:27:29,244
The question is, will it become legislation in the future?

3562
03:27:29,304 --> 03:27:32,704
And I will share with you, it really will depend

3563
03:27:32,724 --> 03:27:35,044
upon the end product that we produce.

3564
03:27:36,244 --> 03:27:37,704
But I will also say that

3565
03:27:38,724 --> 03:27:41,924
people are all in a good spot of where we're headed with the current executive

3566
03:27:41,984 --> 03:27:43,784
order. And so there is a

3567
03:27:44,904 --> 03:27:48,724
chance that we will not see any future legislation for the school

3568
03:27:48,744 --> 03:27:52,344
accountability measure that we are currently working on.

3569
03:27:53,916 --> 03:27:57,386
But if there is school accountability, there will also be charter schools,

3570
03:27:57,716 --> 03:27:59,416
and those two will be tied together.

3571
03:28:00,056 --> 03:28:03,856
Probably the main reason that charter school expansion, let me correct, the main

3572
03:28:03,876 --> 03:28:07,736
reason the school accountability bill did not move forward this year is that

3573
03:28:08,296 --> 03:28:12,116
it got tied up in with charter school expansion, or I should

3574
03:28:12,196 --> 03:28:13,676
say the charter school

3575
03:28:16,976 --> 03:28:19,476
conversation and how it impacts the state of Missouri.

3576
03:28:20,216 --> 03:28:23,696
So if those two move forward, they'll probably move forward in

3577
03:28:23,916 --> 03:28:26,236
tandem to each other in the future, but again, there's no

3578
03:28:27,416 --> 03:28:29,936
crystal ball. They could break them apart.

3579
03:28:31,216 --> 03:28:32,416
At the end of this session,

3580
03:28:33,496 --> 03:28:37,216
there was a huge, I won't say huge, omnibus bill, because huge to me is

3581
03:28:37,256 --> 03:28:40,066
31 subjects, and this one was only 12 subjects,

3582
03:28:41,676 --> 03:28:43,496
so I would call it a minibus last year.

3583
03:28:44,136 --> 03:28:46,136
But there was conversation

3584
03:28:47,176 --> 03:28:49,496
in and around ESA oversight.

3585
03:28:50,336 --> 03:28:54,036
At the end of the session, there was conversation of bringing the empowerment

3586
03:28:54,096 --> 03:28:57,656
scholarship activity funds back to the department and for us to

3587
03:28:57,676 --> 03:28:58,236
oversight.

3588
03:28:59,056 --> 03:29:02,016
I look for that to be a conversation to happen again this coming

3589
03:29:03,116 --> 03:29:06,736
legislative session. Not that the treasurer's

3590
03:29:06,796 --> 03:29:07,516
department

3591
03:29:08,516 --> 03:29:11,916
is not being able to fulfill that, just in the

3592
03:29:12,816 --> 03:29:15,976
part of the accountability side. How are those students doing?

3593
03:29:16,296 --> 03:29:19,216
Because we currently collect all that data and so on.

3594
03:29:19,356 --> 03:29:23,096
So I really believe that you will see some conversations in and

3595
03:29:23,176 --> 03:29:23,736
around that.

3596
03:29:25,256 --> 03:29:28,746
I also believe you're going to see a lot of effort in and around and focused on

3597
03:29:28,856 --> 03:29:30,916
supporting teachers. Many of the

3598
03:29:31,016 --> 03:29:34,956
omnibus bills that we

3599
03:29:35,016 --> 03:29:38,596
had this year had different provisions in there to support teachers in the

3600
03:29:38,656 --> 03:29:41,416
classroom, whether it would be the beginning of the year

3601
03:29:41,476 --> 03:29:45,456
school training that

3602
03:29:45,556 --> 03:29:49,246
the teachers have to do each and every year, or whether it's

3603
03:29:50,396 --> 03:29:53,176
providing some liability coverage for them for different events.

3604
03:29:53,706 --> 03:29:57,536
I think we're going to see supportive teachers in legislation.

3605
03:29:58,596 --> 03:30:02,436
In doing that, you're also going to see the virtual screen time bill, I believe,

3606
03:30:02,556 --> 03:30:06,076
to show back up, or not show back up, to come back

3607
03:30:06,116 --> 03:30:09,376
again. And how much is too much

3608
03:30:09,876 --> 03:30:11,616
screen time for students? And so,

3609
03:30:13,096 --> 03:30:16,846
last session, the legislation

3610
03:30:16,876 --> 03:30:20,296
took, I won't say 180-degree turn, but it started at one

3611
03:30:20,396 --> 03:30:23,626
spot, and it really started opening the door to great

3612
03:30:23,636 --> 03:30:27,216
conversations around screen time and how important it is for

3613
03:30:27,276 --> 03:30:31,006
students to be able to interact with each other without

3614
03:30:31,216 --> 03:30:34,776
having too much screen time. And where that legislation

3615
03:30:35,576 --> 03:30:39,196
ended at, at the end of the session, I believe, was at a very

3616
03:30:39,316 --> 03:30:42,836
good starting point. It involved the department,

3617
03:30:43,276 --> 03:30:47,006
the commissioner, to creating a work group to start investigating

3618
03:30:47,076 --> 03:30:47,316
that.

3619
03:30:48,476 --> 03:30:52,396
And so, I believe that legislation

3620
03:30:52,436 --> 03:30:54,496
will come back in the near future.

3621
03:30:56,476 --> 03:30:58,496
The other thing is legislator priorities.

3622
03:30:58,816 --> 03:31:01,656
You all as a group have legislator priorities.

3623
03:31:02,076 --> 03:31:05,516
There was a legislator priority last year that wasn't

3624
03:31:05,576 --> 03:31:09,556
completed. It became a part of the omnibus bill, and then when

3625
03:31:09,596 --> 03:31:13,276
that bill didn't occur, it didn't move forward.

3626
03:31:13,296 --> 03:31:17,256
But we had a legislative initiative for

3627
03:31:17,276 --> 03:31:21,156
our CT advisory group and our current technical education advisory

3628
03:31:21,216 --> 03:31:23,276
group, just changing the terms on it,

3629
03:31:24,336 --> 03:31:25,676
and who could be on that bill.

3630
03:31:26,616 --> 03:31:30,416
We'll need to make sure that that legislation is filed again this coming year so we

3631
03:31:30,476 --> 03:31:32,676
can move forward with that

3632
03:31:33,576 --> 03:31:37,496
advisory group and make sure that it's meeting the needs and demands of

3633
03:31:37,556 --> 03:31:41,496
current technical education. And then the other board priorities as you all, as a

3634
03:31:41,516 --> 03:31:43,036
group, will talk about here in the future,

3635
03:31:44,296 --> 03:31:47,696
and providing those as a platform as well.

3636
03:31:48,736 --> 03:31:48,936
So,

3637
03:31:50,276 --> 03:31:52,536
I'd entertain any questions about

3638
03:31:54,136 --> 03:31:55,596
current legislation, things that

3639
03:31:56,536 --> 03:31:57,136
are out there.

3640
03:31:59,956 --> 03:32:03,576
One question I had is how many bills do you think were submitted in

3641
03:32:03,676 --> 03:32:06,576
last session that had education in them?

3642
03:32:07,436 --> 03:32:11,076
There were, I think it was 321 bills.

3643
03:32:12,416 --> 03:32:15,396
That's just over 10% of the total bills filed,

3644
03:32:16,256 --> 03:32:17,736
had education in them.

3645
03:32:19,176 --> 03:32:22,096
Yeah. And I mean, I just want to bring the magnitude of this.

3646
03:32:22,736 --> 03:32:24,436
Everybody's talking about education when-

3647
03:32:24,736 --> 03:32:24,936
Right

3648
03:32:24,976 --> 03:32:28,906
... it gets passed forward and things, and so it's a major undertaking and

3649
03:32:28,996 --> 03:32:31,596
very important things. It can hurt us and help us.

3650
03:32:31,896 --> 03:32:33,156
It's a lot to read.

3651
03:32:36,856 --> 03:32:37,916
Thanks, Perry. Just I

3652
03:32:38,736 --> 03:32:40,536
guess a general comment for the board, right?

3653
03:32:40,596 --> 03:32:40,816
I mean,

3654
03:32:41,716 --> 03:32:42,696
legislators can

3655
03:32:43,616 --> 03:32:45,556
introduce a bill on anything.

3656
03:32:47,356 --> 03:32:49,886
I think in some cases, and a couple of us have had this

3657
03:32:49,916 --> 03:32:53,906
conversation, part of the reason I think you're seeing a lot

3658
03:32:53,936 --> 03:32:57,596
of bills introduced in the legislature is because this

3659
03:32:57,636 --> 03:33:01,276
board and local school districts aren't addressing

3660
03:33:01,336 --> 03:33:01,846
issues,

3661
03:33:02,856 --> 03:33:06,596
I think, in some cases. The cellphone issue is something that

3662
03:33:06,666 --> 03:33:09,576
comes to mind, right? It's been an issue forever.

3663
03:33:09,586 --> 03:33:13,346
Very few local school districts did anything about it until it was required by

3664
03:33:13,396 --> 03:33:14,406
state law. Right?

3665
03:33:15,436 --> 03:33:17,836
Cellphones are an issue. Screen time, I think, is another one.

3666
03:33:19,096 --> 03:33:23,016
And I know that's a discussion we've had as a board is what authority

3667
03:33:23,056 --> 03:33:26,636
do we have, right? And I think generally, we have broad

3668
03:33:26,676 --> 03:33:30,436
authority to do rulemaking on anything that is not

3669
03:33:31,036 --> 03:33:34,036
sort of prohibited or otherwise addressed in statute.

3670
03:33:35,836 --> 03:33:39,656
And so, again, just a comment. I think that the board can

3671
03:33:41,616 --> 03:33:42,176
do more

3672
03:33:43,216 --> 03:33:45,386
to address some of these issues, like screen time.

3673
03:33:45,416 --> 03:33:48,956
I'm not saying screen time is the issue, but if this

3674
03:33:49,036 --> 03:33:50,836
board thinks screen time

3675
03:33:51,796 --> 03:33:55,556
needs to be addressed, I don't know that we have to wait for the legislature to act

3676
03:33:55,776 --> 03:33:56,496
to do something.

3677
03:33:57,796 --> 03:34:01,716
That would be the same with cell phones, and other issues that we see pop

3678
03:34:01,836 --> 03:34:02,196
up. So,

3679
03:34:03,496 --> 03:34:05,796
my perspective on this is

3680
03:34:07,616 --> 03:34:10,876
sometimes you get some good things from the legislature and sometimes you don't.

3681
03:34:11,016 --> 03:34:14,686
But part of what you see, I think, is a failure of this

3682
03:34:14,696 --> 03:34:18,476
board to take action on things that are important and

3683
03:34:19,056 --> 03:34:20,376
quite frankly, school districts.

3684
03:34:22,176 --> 03:34:25,416
When a school district is afraid to address a cell phone

3685
03:34:26,076 --> 03:34:27,616
policy or come up with something,

3686
03:34:28,456 --> 03:34:29,676
what else are they not addressing?

3687
03:34:30,676 --> 03:34:33,696
So, I think that's why you see a lot of these bills.

3688
03:34:33,716 --> 03:34:37,636
Public education is obviously a big interest, and I know we'll get

3689
03:34:37,696 --> 03:34:41,385
into this more in our session in July and

3690
03:34:41,556 --> 03:34:45,396
beyond. But I just would again say that the board

3691
03:34:45,416 --> 03:34:46,096
does have

3692
03:34:46,916 --> 03:34:50,756
broad authority to tackle some of these things without

3693
03:34:50,796 --> 03:34:52,416
waiting for the legislature to act.

3694
03:34:52,616 --> 03:34:54,756
Thank you.

3695
03:34:55,676 --> 03:34:58,116
And I think that goes to the discussion that,

3696
03:34:59,356 --> 03:35:02,836
Brooks, you brought up, that importance in our retreat of really

3697
03:35:02,856 --> 03:35:03,716
understanding

3698
03:35:04,816 --> 03:35:07,115
the scope and authority of the board.

3699
03:35:08,036 --> 03:35:11,916
Yeah. And I don't know how you follow 300 whatever bills, so

3700
03:35:12,136 --> 03:35:15,076
thank you. That's what I meant to say at the beginning.

3701
03:35:16,176 --> 03:35:19,996
And reading legislative text is not fun, and you

3702
03:35:20,456 --> 03:35:23,776
have to cross-reference sections of statute to understand exactly what it's trying

3703
03:35:23,816 --> 03:35:26,556
to do, and so thank you for doing all of that.

3704
03:35:26,616 --> 03:35:26,936
I

3705
03:35:27,856 --> 03:35:29,956
left that part out. So Perry, I do appreciate it.

3706
03:35:32,196 --> 03:35:33,056
Any other questions?

3707
03:35:35,976 --> 03:35:39,936
I just want to thank you as the board, as I step into my other role.

3708
03:35:40,156 --> 03:35:42,756
You have to talk about your why,

3709
03:35:43,616 --> 03:35:46,856
and career and technical education is my why.

3710
03:35:47,376 --> 03:35:50,396
It's why I started, and it's where I hope to end.

3711
03:35:52,256 --> 03:35:56,216
So as you all sit in the seat, understand your why, because it's very,

3712
03:35:56,296 --> 03:35:56,996
very important.

3713
03:35:58,476 --> 03:36:02,216
You can't do this job without team members back here,

3714
03:36:03,076 --> 03:36:04,656
and Rebecca's team

3715
03:36:05,536 --> 03:36:09,456
in budget and planning, and Shelly Woods, and the fiscal note

3716
03:36:09,536 --> 03:36:11,996
side. It takes a team effort, and

3717
03:36:13,496 --> 03:36:17,416
Pam Victor is retired now. The amount of work and time that her and I

3718
03:36:17,516 --> 03:36:18,096
spent together

3719
03:36:18,916 --> 03:36:19,936
was just incredible.

3720
03:36:21,236 --> 03:36:24,216
And I know Rebecca and I went to the capital here the other day, and she thought I

3721
03:36:24,256 --> 03:36:24,776
was leaving,

3722
03:36:25,886 --> 03:36:27,776
and I gave her the news as I walked back.

3723
03:36:27,886 --> 03:36:29,456
"No, I'm still here." So,

3724
03:36:30,716 --> 03:36:30,836
it's

3725
03:36:32,496 --> 03:36:35,116
the role of this position and the ability to touch,

3726
03:36:35,956 --> 03:36:37,156
I just had no idea.

3727
03:36:38,136 --> 03:36:41,276
I stepped into it to be the interim, to be the transition,

3728
03:36:41,916 --> 03:36:45,556
and I got to have the opportunity for two and a half

3729
03:36:46,756 --> 03:36:48,836
years and three legislative sessions.

3730
03:36:49,336 --> 03:36:50,376
I wouldn't trade the

3731
03:36:52,176 --> 03:36:55,876
opportunity for anything. It's been one of the greatest opportunities

3732
03:36:56,376 --> 03:36:57,276
I've ever had

3733
03:36:58,376 --> 03:37:01,776
in my 34 years in education. So, thank you.

3734
03:37:02,616 --> 03:37:05,836
Thank you for your service on that, Eric. We appreciate it very much.

3735
03:37:05,916 --> 03:37:07,896
You'll miss dealing with the lawmakers over there.

3736
03:37:09,916 --> 03:37:10,076
Well,

3737
03:37:10,976 --> 03:37:13,336
they have somehow found my private phone number.

3738
03:37:17,216 --> 03:37:17,816
Okay, so-

3739
03:37:17,926 --> 03:37:19,096
Brooks, you gave that to him, right?

3740
03:37:19,176 --> 03:37:19,346
Wasn't that-

3741
03:37:19,416 --> 03:37:23,395
Yeah, he sent it to me, and I put it on Facebook and said, "Here you go."

3742
03:37:24,376 --> 03:37:25,516
Anybody who wants to talk to him.

3743
03:37:26,436 --> 03:37:27,676
So now what we're going to do is,

3744
03:37:28,856 --> 03:37:31,776
if it's all right, we'll break for lunch and come back

3745
03:37:32,856 --> 03:37:35,616
at 12:35. Would that be okay?

3746
03:37:37,456 --> 03:37:40,496
Kyle, I would imagine your report will be a while, so

3747
03:37:41,316 --> 03:37:41,476
yeah.

3748
03:37:42,676 --> 03:37:45,296
Okay, very good. So we'll adjourn for a lunch break.

3749
04:10:04,725 --> 04:10:08,576
We'll call our meeting back to order at this time and move on

3750
04:10:08,636 --> 04:10:11,716
to the budget report. Dr. Cruz.

3751
04:10:32,176 --> 04:10:35,556
Good afternoon. Kyle Cruz, deputy commissioner for financial and

3752
04:10:35,616 --> 04:10:39,276
administrative services. And first of all, I'd like to welcome

3753
04:10:39,556 --> 04:10:40,776
our two new board members.

3754
04:10:41,776 --> 04:10:43,936
Very nice to meet you, gentlemen. Glad you're on the board.

3755
04:10:45,136 --> 04:10:48,136
As we go through today's presentation, as board member

3756
04:10:49,632 --> 04:10:52,012
Carrie Casey said, we do have three parts today.

3757
04:10:52,772 --> 04:10:56,552
We will look briefly at the current year budget,

3758
04:10:56,632 --> 04:11:00,452
that is the 2025, 2026 budget, which

3759
04:11:00,532 --> 04:11:03,812
we refer to as the FY fiscal year

3760
04:11:04,072 --> 04:11:07,992
'26 budget. And I'm hoping to use that to provide,

3761
04:11:08,032 --> 04:11:11,292
especially our new members, with some background and almost

3762
04:11:11,352 --> 04:11:15,132
a landscape view of the budget process and how it

3763
04:11:15,212 --> 04:11:18,652
works. So I'll begin by just giving you a bit about the

3764
04:11:18,732 --> 04:11:21,652
timeline of how a budget process works.

3765
04:11:22,872 --> 04:11:26,852
The budget for any given year starts generally in July,

3766
04:11:27,892 --> 04:11:31,612
and the department has from July until the 1st of

3767
04:11:31,672 --> 04:11:33,392
October to assemble the budget.

3768
04:11:34,222 --> 04:11:37,232
The budget has to be turned in by October 1st.

3769
04:11:37,852 --> 04:11:41,461
And so between July 1st and October 1st, we assemble the

3770
04:11:41,552 --> 04:11:41,952
budget,

3771
04:11:42,832 --> 04:11:46,332
we develop the core budget pieces,

3772
04:11:46,752 --> 04:11:50,292
which are basically based on what was in the previous

3773
04:11:50,392 --> 04:11:52,952
budget. They're the core parts of the funding.

3774
04:11:53,891 --> 04:11:57,672
And then there are portions of funding we refer to as new decision items,

3775
04:11:58,212 --> 04:12:01,712
and those are items where we're going to ask for additional

3776
04:12:01,832 --> 04:12:05,812
funding for various programs that either are calculated to

3777
04:12:05,832 --> 04:12:09,552
need more funding, or they could be new pieces

3778
04:12:09,752 --> 04:12:12,912
the legislature passed that we are now required to implement.

3779
04:12:13,792 --> 04:12:15,072
And we'll also work through

3780
04:12:16,812 --> 04:12:20,652
a budget we call a supplemental budget, and

3781
04:12:20,712 --> 04:12:24,592
that would be requests for additional funding for the

3782
04:12:24,772 --> 04:12:27,872
budget that is actually in progress at that moment.

3783
04:12:28,152 --> 04:12:30,652
So it's kind of a multilayered situation.

3784
04:12:30,832 --> 04:12:31,112
But

3785
04:12:32,472 --> 04:12:36,362
that is the process. We go through, get our budget done, turned in by

3786
04:12:36,392 --> 04:12:39,692
October 1st. The board reviews the budget in August and September,

3787
04:12:40,972 --> 04:12:44,472
gives final approval in September. Get to October 1st, we turn it in.

3788
04:12:45,412 --> 04:12:47,992
Throughout the fall, we answer questions from legislators.

3789
04:12:48,712 --> 04:12:51,952
And then when the legislative session starts in January,

3790
04:12:52,672 --> 04:12:55,632
that is when the budget is up for consideration.

3791
04:12:56,212 --> 04:12:59,972
And the legislature holds hearings in both the House and in the

3792
04:13:00,051 --> 04:13:02,212
Senate about the budget requests.

3793
04:13:02,902 --> 04:13:05,452
There is a governor's recommended version.

3794
04:13:06,212 --> 04:13:08,222
There will be a House-recommended version.

3795
04:13:08,962 --> 04:13:11,292
There will be a Senate-recommended version.

3796
04:13:11,352 --> 04:13:15,112
Then there will be, finally, a truly agreed and finally passed

3797
04:13:15,132 --> 04:13:18,872
version, essentially what the legislature votes

3798
04:13:18,972 --> 04:13:19,312
out.

3799
04:13:20,192 --> 04:13:23,992
And then the governor has usually between the middle of May

3800
04:13:24,672 --> 04:13:27,982
and the 1st of July to take action on that budget,

3801
04:13:28,392 --> 04:13:30,812
veto it, sign it, do some kind of action.

3802
04:13:31,312 --> 04:13:32,752
And that's actually where we are right now.

3803
04:13:33,132 --> 04:13:36,952
So that's kind of just a bit of background, and we'll

3804
04:13:36,992 --> 04:13:38,832
reference that as we go through today.

3805
04:13:39,372 --> 04:13:39,572
But

3806
04:13:40,552 --> 04:13:41,892
we're going to start by looking at

3807
04:13:42,852 --> 04:13:45,712
the DESE budget for fiscal year '26.

3808
04:13:46,152 --> 04:13:50,112
And again, that is the 2025-2026

3809
04:13:50,332 --> 04:13:52,272
year, which we are in right now.

3810
04:13:54,072 --> 04:13:55,292
This is an executive summary,

3811
04:13:56,172 --> 04:14:00,072
and it reflects the budget that was passed and went into

3812
04:14:00,112 --> 04:14:03,892
effect July 1st, 2025. It'll be in

3813
04:14:03,932 --> 04:14:07,252
effect until June 30th, here in a couple of weeks,

3814
04:14:07,852 --> 04:14:11,332
and it does include the line item vetoes

3815
04:14:11,612 --> 04:14:15,432
issued by Governor Kehoe, and we also give some explanation of

3816
04:14:15,472 --> 04:14:19,452
personnel and operating expenses. Please note, this is an overview.

3817
04:14:20,392 --> 04:14:24,292
The entire budget itself is a multiple-page

3818
04:14:24,352 --> 04:14:27,972
spreadsheet with many, many line items, and we try to

3819
04:14:27,992 --> 04:14:29,292
condense it for your

3820
04:14:30,212 --> 04:14:31,072
summary purposes.

3821
04:14:35,372 --> 04:14:39,112
This pie chart shows the entire budget for DESE, the summary

3822
04:14:39,252 --> 04:14:42,172
of the total appropriations that came through from the

3823
04:14:42,192 --> 04:14:46,132
legislature and then signed by the governor. This is the entire thing.

3824
04:14:46,192 --> 04:14:49,752
The total authorized budget for DESE for the current year is about

3825
04:14:49,792 --> 04:14:51,372
$8.5 billion.

3826
04:14:52,432 --> 04:14:52,792
Of that,

3827
04:14:53,772 --> 04:14:57,432
4.67 billion is from general revenues.

3828
04:14:58,372 --> 04:15:01,712
There's about 1.7 billion that comes from federal funds,

3829
04:15:02,492 --> 04:15:06,411
and about 2.1 billion comes from other funds, which would include Prop

3830
04:15:06,492 --> 04:15:10,462
C sales tax, lottery, gaming, a variety of other

3831
04:15:10,512 --> 04:15:13,672
funding streams that feed into education budget.

3832
04:15:15,452 --> 04:15:17,552
Please feel free to stop at any point.

3833
04:15:19,712 --> 04:15:23,692
We can also look at the total appropriations by category, and you'll notice the

3834
04:15:23,772 --> 04:15:24,232
orange

3835
04:15:25,232 --> 04:15:25,612
pie

3836
04:15:26,472 --> 04:15:29,882
slice is the biggest, and that is school funding.

3837
04:15:30,392 --> 04:15:33,092
It's essentially a passthrough from DESE.

3838
04:15:33,892 --> 04:15:37,572
We get the money in, we send it out according to the

3839
04:15:37,612 --> 04:15:39,172
formulas that are in play.

3840
04:15:40,432 --> 04:15:44,352
You'll notice that DESE operations, personnel, our expenses for the

3841
04:15:44,372 --> 04:15:47,412
department itself is about 2% of the total budget.

3842
04:15:48,312 --> 04:15:51,972
And then you can see the other areas of vocational special education, about

3843
04:15:52,172 --> 04:15:53,512
1.25 billion.

3844
04:15:54,412 --> 04:15:57,112
Leadership and academic, about 342 million.

3845
04:15:57,512 --> 04:16:01,292
Educator quality, 105 million. And then there's a childcare

3846
04:16:01,432 --> 04:16:05,192
subsidy and childhood distributions of about 691 million.

3847
04:16:07,712 --> 04:16:11,692
If you look at DESE specific and our operations, our personnel and

3848
04:16:11,792 --> 04:16:13,652
operating expenses, we have

3849
04:16:13,872 --> 04:16:17,712
1,818.68 full-time

3850
04:16:17,752 --> 04:16:18,322
positions,

3851
04:16:19,212 --> 04:16:21,652
and this table kind of breaks out where they all are.

3852
04:16:22,092 --> 04:16:25,552
I would draw attention to the fact that our largest

3853
04:16:25,792 --> 04:16:29,692
concentrations of personnel are in the area of

3854
04:16:29,732 --> 04:16:32,592
adult learning and rehabilitation, about

3855
04:16:32,912 --> 04:16:36,732
658 individual positions. And

3856
04:16:36,812 --> 04:16:39,812
then in the board-operated schools area,

3857
04:16:40,132 --> 04:16:44,112
632 positions. And those are the schools, the Missouri

3858
04:16:44,212 --> 04:16:47,312
School for the Severely Disabled, Missouri School for the Blind, Missouri School

3859
04:16:47,392 --> 04:16:47,892
for the Deaf.

3860
04:16:49,432 --> 04:16:50,352
My part of the DESE

3861
04:16:51,292 --> 04:16:55,032
organization, Financial Administrator Services, 84

3862
04:16:55,172 --> 04:16:58,522
FTE. Learning Services has 206.31

3863
04:17:00,000 --> 04:17:03,780
FTE. And then there are several commissions, including Charter School

3864
04:17:03,860 --> 04:17:04,380
Commission.

3865
04:17:05,300 --> 04:17:07,100
There's a commission for

3866
04:17:08,500 --> 04:17:12,420
the hard of hearing and for assistive technology,

3867
04:17:12,720 --> 04:17:16,570
and there's 21.4 FTEs that are devoted to those commissions.

3868
04:17:17,860 --> 04:17:18,480
All told,

3869
04:17:19,500 --> 04:17:23,160
the DESE budget is about 1.92%, just under 2% of the

3870
04:17:23,200 --> 04:17:23,940
entire budget.

3871
04:17:26,680 --> 04:17:27,199
Here's another

3872
04:17:28,960 --> 04:17:32,600
way to display the DESE operations, and you can see again, as I mentioned,

3873
04:17:32,880 --> 04:17:36,260
the two largest pieces in terms of

3874
04:17:37,680 --> 04:17:41,500
funding expended from DESE and board-operated schools and

3875
04:17:41,549 --> 04:17:42,580
adult learning and rehab.

3876
04:17:45,460 --> 04:17:49,440
When we talk about school funding, the biggest category out of the first slide,

3877
04:17:50,220 --> 04:17:53,800
you'll see that we send funding to schools that

3878
04:17:53,880 --> 04:17:57,160
totals just under $6 billion, and that's about

3879
04:17:57,600 --> 04:18:00,820
70% of the total appropriation for the DESE budget.

3880
04:18:01,780 --> 04:18:05,159
The foundation formula is a state-written formula

3881
04:18:05,960 --> 04:18:09,800
that is actually in statute, and it calculates how much

3882
04:18:09,840 --> 04:18:13,760
money goes out to each school or local education

3883
04:18:13,820 --> 04:18:14,780
agency, LEA.

3884
04:18:15,900 --> 04:18:18,400
It's about $4.282 billion.

3885
04:18:19,540 --> 04:18:20,620
School transportation,

3886
04:18:21,820 --> 04:18:24,580
and that pays for kids getting to and from school.

3887
04:18:25,140 --> 04:18:28,080
It doesn't pay for field trips or baseball games, things like that.

3888
04:18:28,820 --> 04:18:32,180
We send out about 376 and a half million.

3889
04:18:32,240 --> 04:18:36,020
There is a small schools program built into the school funding

3890
04:18:36,140 --> 04:18:39,670
formula, where schools that are under 350 students

3891
04:18:40,220 --> 04:18:42,860
get additional support funding-wise.

3892
04:18:43,400 --> 04:18:47,270
And then there is $1.3 billion that comes

3893
04:18:47,380 --> 04:18:50,100
from what's called the School District Trust Fund,

3894
04:18:51,000 --> 04:18:54,940
and that's actually generated by a one-cent sales tax that was passed back

3895
04:18:54,960 --> 04:18:56,140
in 1982,

3896
04:18:56,980 --> 04:19:00,540
and the original purpose was to provide schools additional funding and

3897
04:19:00,640 --> 04:19:03,340
also help offset some property taxes.

3898
04:19:03,910 --> 04:19:07,840
And since that time, there are several districts that still use half that

3899
04:19:07,880 --> 04:19:11,760
money to offset property taxes, but a majority of schools, in the

3900
04:19:11,820 --> 04:19:12,489
time being,

3901
04:19:13,320 --> 04:19:16,720
their communities have voted to waive that

3902
04:19:16,800 --> 04:19:20,750
portion, and so the entire Prop C funding for that school district

3903
04:19:20,780 --> 04:19:24,240
goes to the school. Again, that's about 1.3 billion.

3904
04:19:25,060 --> 04:19:25,420
Yes, sir.

3905
04:19:26,700 --> 04:19:30,200
Yeah, I got a question. It's down in the foundation formula.

3906
04:19:30,280 --> 04:19:34,020
I see there's a sports wagering for education fund.

3907
04:19:34,220 --> 04:19:37,940
It's only like a million dollars. Is that just because it's new?

3908
04:19:38,000 --> 04:19:38,450
Or I figured-

3909
04:19:38,540 --> 04:19:38,760
Yeah

3910
04:19:38,769 --> 04:19:38,930
... it would be higher.

3911
04:19:38,930 --> 04:19:42,840
That's the sports betting line item that actually went into effect

3912
04:19:42,910 --> 04:19:46,820
in, it was December or January. And so since it's current

3913
04:19:46,860 --> 04:19:50,640
year budget, they put in a very low amount for sports

3914
04:19:50,720 --> 04:19:53,040
wagering. I will note, though, that

3915
04:19:54,760 --> 04:19:58,740
I'm not sure if there's any money in there yet, and part of that's because

3916
04:19:58,820 --> 04:20:02,640
the companies that do the sports betting can recoup

3917
04:20:02,980 --> 04:20:06,860
the money they've put out for the program first before any dollars

3918
04:20:06,940 --> 04:20:08,920
come into the treasury. So

3919
04:20:09,940 --> 04:20:13,880
I think in next year's budget, the amount is still under $7 million,

3920
04:20:14,440 --> 04:20:18,380
so it's not considered a major component supporting the

3921
04:20:18,400 --> 04:20:19,180
budget at this time.

3922
04:20:19,600 --> 04:20:23,240
Okay. But is it, in theory, it could get up to where like the

3923
04:20:23,280 --> 04:20:26,300
lottery funds are? Something I'm guessing. I don't know.

3924
04:20:26,840 --> 04:20:30,500
In theory. I think the projections I saw were it might top out at

3925
04:20:30,600 --> 04:20:34,140
100 million. I don't know. That's a long time back.

3926
04:20:34,560 --> 04:20:38,380
Got it. Yeah, no, it just seems like they, as part of the selling on it, it's like,

3927
04:20:38,440 --> 04:20:40,130
"Oh, it helps schools," but-

3928
04:20:40,800 --> 04:20:42,840
That was part of the promotion. You are correct.

3929
04:20:44,120 --> 04:20:44,360
Yes.

3930
04:20:44,460 --> 04:20:45,650
Wanted to ask about that.

3931
04:20:46,220 --> 04:20:50,020
Yeah. I will note, since you brought up the line items

3932
04:20:50,060 --> 04:20:52,080
here, if you look at the

3933
04:20:53,630 --> 04:20:57,140
Outstanding Schools Trust Fund, the Lottery Proceeds Fund, and...

3934
04:20:57,180 --> 04:21:00,850
Sorry, my mistake. The Lottery Proceeds Fund, the State School

3935
04:21:00,960 --> 04:21:03,340
Moneys Fund, and Classroom Trust Fund.

3936
04:21:04,040 --> 04:21:06,840
Lottery is self-explanatory. That's funds from lottery.

3937
04:21:07,620 --> 04:21:11,340
State School Moneys Fund is money that comes from cigarette taxes

3938
04:21:11,680 --> 04:21:13,420
and county foreign insurance tax.

3939
04:21:14,290 --> 04:21:16,780
And Classroom Trust Fund is gaming money.

3940
04:21:17,600 --> 04:21:19,940
And I think it's worthy of note that current year,

3941
04:21:21,179 --> 04:21:24,320
we're going to come in about $138

3942
04:21:24,360 --> 04:21:27,020
million under the appropriation.

3943
04:21:27,700 --> 04:21:31,620
You see, when DESE gets an appropriation from the

3944
04:21:31,660 --> 04:21:33,380
legislature in the budget,

3945
04:21:34,320 --> 04:21:38,260
that gives us permission to spend up to that amount or distribute up

3946
04:21:38,300 --> 04:21:41,900
to that amount, but then the cash actually has to materialize.

3947
04:21:42,700 --> 04:21:46,600
And for current year, we're going to be about $138 million

3948
04:21:46,700 --> 04:21:49,160
short among those three categories.

3949
04:21:49,720 --> 04:21:53,220
And so school districts are actually going to receive less in

3950
04:21:53,360 --> 04:21:56,540
foundation formula funding than the calculated

3951
04:21:57,160 --> 04:22:00,480
amount, which is called the state adequacy target.

3952
04:22:01,280 --> 04:22:03,840
So I'll probably talk more about that here in a little bit.

3953
04:22:04,480 --> 04:22:04,700
Thank you.

3954
04:22:04,880 --> 04:22:05,600
Thank you for the question.

3955
04:22:08,460 --> 04:22:12,230
Okay. We're going to talk about our budget in terms of four broad categories:

3956
04:22:13,350 --> 04:22:16,570
childcare, subsidy, and childhood distributions, educator quality, leadership,

3957
04:22:16,660 --> 04:22:20,260
teacher development, expanding literacy and academic support, and vocational,

3958
04:22:20,420 --> 04:22:22,700
special ed, health, nutrition, other services.

3959
04:22:23,360 --> 04:22:25,560
Please understand these are artificial categories.

3960
04:22:26,220 --> 04:22:29,280
We've grouped them for your convenience because they are similar in

3961
04:22:29,320 --> 04:22:31,900
nature. And in the budget itself,

3962
04:22:32,700 --> 04:22:34,600
these are each individual line items.

3963
04:22:34,720 --> 04:22:38,160
The budget itself is a very long document, and there are very specific

3964
04:22:38,880 --> 04:22:42,730
items in the budget, such as to Department of Elementary Secondary

3965
04:22:42,760 --> 04:22:45,860
Education, Office of Educator Quality,

3966
04:22:47,370 --> 04:22:50,590
$282,000 for the purposes

3967
04:22:50,700 --> 04:22:53,140
of registered youth apprenticeships.

3968
04:22:53,620 --> 04:22:57,440
That's an example of what the budget reads, and there are lines like that

3969
04:22:57,540 --> 04:22:58,700
from beginning to end of the budget.

3970
04:22:59,120 --> 04:23:00,720
We've grouped these for your convenience

3971
04:23:01,956 --> 04:23:05,656
So under childcare subsidy and childhood distributions, we total up

3972
04:23:05,776 --> 04:23:09,076
about $692 million, which is 8% of total

3973
04:23:09,096 --> 04:23:09,876
appropriations.

3974
04:23:10,876 --> 04:23:14,656
We do distribute childcare subsidy to help pay for

3975
04:23:14,696 --> 04:23:15,216
childcare

3976
04:23:16,396 --> 04:23:17,196
for low-income

3977
04:23:18,336 --> 04:23:22,156
pre-K kids. We do subsidy for foster kids who are in

3978
04:23:22,236 --> 04:23:26,116
custody of the state. There's also early childhood special education in

3979
04:23:26,156 --> 04:23:29,836
this portion of the budget, and we also do put out about

3980
04:23:29,856 --> 04:23:33,536
$88 million in First Steps. This is just

3981
04:23:33,736 --> 04:23:37,436
one artificial division of the budget, childcare

3982
04:23:37,556 --> 04:23:39,296
subsidy and childhood distributions.

3983
04:23:41,416 --> 04:23:45,036
Then we can look at educator quality, leadership, and teacher

3984
04:23:45,096 --> 04:23:48,806
development, and for these categories, it includes career ladder,

3985
04:23:49,456 --> 04:23:53,276
which is a program that allows teachers with at least two years'

3986
04:23:53,316 --> 04:23:57,136
experience to make additional dollars by doing additional work in their local

3987
04:23:57,256 --> 04:24:01,016
district if their district chooses to add the career ladder program,

3988
04:24:01,396 --> 04:24:03,836
and there is a district contribution for that.

3989
04:24:05,016 --> 04:24:08,896
We have the teacher baseline salary grant, which is there to support school

3990
04:24:08,996 --> 04:24:12,616
districts and local education agencies who

3991
04:24:13,256 --> 04:24:16,536
are not yet able to pay at the

3992
04:24:17,096 --> 04:24:19,916
statutorily prescribed salary of

3993
04:24:19,926 --> 04:24:22,596
$40,000. So if a school's paying at

3994
04:24:22,636 --> 04:24:26,356
$35,000 for their base pay, then for

3995
04:24:26,416 --> 04:24:29,056
teachers who are on their salary schedule below 40,

3996
04:24:29,876 --> 04:24:33,836
the teacher baseline salary grant is available for those schools to

3997
04:24:33,876 --> 04:24:37,816
apply and receive funding to support those teachers' salaries to get to the

3998
04:24:37,856 --> 04:24:41,376
minimum of $40,000. That's about at $33 million total.

3999
04:24:42,336 --> 04:24:43,656
We have a Teacher of the Year program.

4000
04:24:43,976 --> 04:24:47,456
We have the Missouri Leadership Development System,

4001
04:24:47,996 --> 04:24:51,556
MLDS, and Missouri Teacher Development System, MTDS,

4002
04:24:52,136 --> 04:24:55,796
which Dr. Katnik referenced earlier today when they were talking about

4003
04:24:55,836 --> 04:24:59,026
programs to prepare teachers and building leaders.

4004
04:24:59,816 --> 04:25:03,626
And altogether, this artificial

4005
04:25:03,696 --> 04:25:07,626
division of the budget works out to about $105 million, about

4006
04:25:07,756 --> 04:25:09,176
1% of the total appropriation.

4007
04:25:11,296 --> 04:25:14,876
C is expanding literacy and academic support, and this

4008
04:25:14,936 --> 04:25:17,536
includes all the federal title funds.

4009
04:25:17,896 --> 04:25:21,496
You may have heard of Title I, Title II, Title III.

4010
04:25:23,836 --> 04:25:24,496
Title I

4011
04:25:26,496 --> 04:25:26,896
is

4012
04:25:28,176 --> 04:25:31,756
largely for students who are considered low-income or

4013
04:25:31,796 --> 04:25:35,256
disadvantaged, and there's an allocation from the federal

4014
04:25:35,336 --> 04:25:39,236
government to each of our school districts, and it's calculated based

4015
04:25:39,356 --> 04:25:43,216
on the demographics of that area. And so,

4016
04:25:43,616 --> 04:25:44,596
areas with higher

4017
04:25:46,636 --> 04:25:50,156
percentage of students who would qualify for low income would generally

4018
04:25:50,196 --> 04:25:53,596
receive a larger allocation in Title I,

4019
04:25:54,376 --> 04:25:58,366
and those funds are used for reading and math instructional materials,

4020
04:25:58,676 --> 04:26:02,536
academic coaches. There's some funding for parental engagement,

4021
04:26:03,176 --> 04:26:04,795
other things to support those students.

4022
04:26:05,276 --> 04:26:05,836
Title II

4023
04:26:07,016 --> 04:26:08,736
is actually for effective instruction.

4024
04:26:09,436 --> 04:26:11,756
It can include things like professional development.

4025
04:26:12,336 --> 04:26:13,176
It could include

4026
04:26:13,996 --> 04:26:17,605
using the dollars to fund class size reduction, that is,

4027
04:26:17,896 --> 04:26:20,656
hire another teacher to reduce sizes in classes.

4028
04:26:21,716 --> 04:26:25,036
And then Title III is for English language learners, immigrant students,

4029
04:26:25,396 --> 04:26:29,136
and usually provides supplemental materials for English

4030
04:26:29,216 --> 04:26:32,916
learning and translators, translations, materials that have been translated.

4031
04:26:33,816 --> 04:26:37,536
And Title IV is student support and enrichment,

4032
04:26:37,916 --> 04:26:41,116
and usually those dollars are spent on things like technology,

4033
04:26:41,596 --> 04:26:45,036
perhaps some science, technology, engineering, and mathematics

4034
04:26:45,156 --> 04:26:48,096
programs, or even training for teachers in those areas.

4035
04:26:48,596 --> 04:26:52,356
So those are all federal allocations, and DESE serves as a pass-through

4036
04:26:52,476 --> 04:26:54,036
for those, and each district will

4037
04:26:55,556 --> 04:26:59,156
submit a budget to us of how they plan to spend those dollars,

4038
04:26:59,796 --> 04:27:02,156
and then the dollars can be accessed by the districts.

4039
04:27:02,776 --> 04:27:06,586
Also in this grouping, we included the Imagination Library, and

4040
04:27:06,656 --> 04:27:10,216
that is the Dolly Parton Imagination Library, the program that

4041
04:27:10,276 --> 04:27:14,036
sends free books to students from birth to age

4042
04:27:14,116 --> 04:27:14,536
five.

4043
04:27:16,356 --> 04:27:20,316
It received $6 million this year. You may have heard

4044
04:27:20,396 --> 04:27:24,076
that the Imagination Library had funding cut

4045
04:27:24,656 --> 04:27:28,496
for next year, and so this $6 million appropriation that we

4046
04:27:28,536 --> 04:27:32,416
have this year has been reduced to $2 million for next year.

4047
04:27:32,456 --> 04:27:36,256
And unfortunately, that means that we're not going to be able to accept any new

4048
04:27:36,296 --> 04:27:40,076
enrollments, and we'll be able to send books until

4049
04:27:40,876 --> 04:27:44,796
the appropriation runs out, which it will be sometime probably in the first

4050
04:27:44,856 --> 04:27:48,836
half of next year. And then the program, the contract expires

4051
04:27:48,936 --> 04:27:50,836
at the end of December. So we'll have to

4052
04:27:52,176 --> 04:27:53,216
perhaps hope that

4053
04:27:54,316 --> 04:27:57,816
some local agencies can pick up the Imagination Library,

4054
04:27:58,456 --> 04:28:00,356
where it has been a statewide effort.

4055
04:28:01,496 --> 04:28:05,456
Also in this group, professional development for our evidence-based literacy

4056
04:28:05,476 --> 04:28:09,196
program. There is the K through three reading assessment and

4057
04:28:09,256 --> 04:28:13,216
dyslexia screening and our work on evidence-based literacy

4058
04:28:13,276 --> 04:28:16,976
program, which is the letters training and getting all

4059
04:28:17,016 --> 04:28:20,896
districts to use the science of reading as their instructional

4060
04:28:20,936 --> 04:28:22,076
methodology for reading.

4061
04:28:22,876 --> 04:28:23,716
Any questions so far?

4062
04:28:26,156 --> 04:28:27,536
Then let's look at...

4063
04:28:28,416 --> 04:28:31,186
Okay, here's another way to look at the expanding literacy and academic support.

4064
04:28:32,116 --> 04:28:35,526
Again, title programs are a big portion

4065
04:28:36,216 --> 04:28:38,316
of this dollar total.

4066
04:28:42,416 --> 04:28:45,656
D, our vocational special education, health, nutrition.

4067
04:28:46,416 --> 04:28:49,916
We have career and tech education at about $82.7

4068
04:28:49,956 --> 04:28:52,036
million. Voc rehab,

4069
04:28:53,216 --> 04:28:56,996
$70 million and change. Special education, about $235 million.

4070
04:28:58,206 --> 04:29:00,656
And you can see how it breaks out in pie chart form.

4071
04:29:01,276 --> 04:29:05,236
You'll see special education, $235.5 million is a

4072
04:29:05,276 --> 04:29:08,552
pretty big chunk of this- ... division of the budget.

4073
04:29:09,472 --> 04:29:12,752
You can see school nutrition services, about 331 million.

4074
04:29:13,192 --> 04:29:16,072
We also include in this grouping sheltered workshops.

4075
04:29:17,352 --> 04:29:21,152
There's a category for special education excess costs,

4076
04:29:22,132 --> 04:29:25,852
and that is if you have a special education student in your district, your school,

4077
04:29:26,592 --> 04:29:27,172
that

4078
04:29:28,172 --> 04:29:28,942
requires

4079
04:29:30,272 --> 04:29:34,212
services that exceed three times what your

4080
04:29:34,252 --> 04:29:38,152
district has usually spent on a student, then the district

4081
04:29:38,172 --> 04:29:42,132
can apply for reimbursement for the amounts above that three

4082
04:29:42,192 --> 04:29:46,172
times amount. And then there's a variety of other smaller programs

4083
04:29:46,212 --> 04:29:50,132
and services that we just lumped into a category we called multiple programs

4084
04:29:50,152 --> 04:29:52,972
and services of 442 million and change.

4085
04:29:54,812 --> 04:29:58,212
And that's a brief look at the fiscal year '26 budget.

4086
04:29:58,492 --> 04:30:01,292
And again, that is the budget that's in play at this moment,

4087
04:30:02,292 --> 04:30:02,632
and

4088
04:30:03,512 --> 04:30:05,352
we're headed towards the end of this budget.

4089
04:30:05,972 --> 04:30:08,072
But I'd be glad to answer any questions if there are any.

4090
04:30:11,391 --> 04:30:11,652
Okay.

4091
04:30:12,752 --> 04:30:14,332
Joshua, could you put up... Go ahead.

4092
04:30:17,492 --> 04:30:21,152
Just, I guess, a general comment on

4093
04:30:21,652 --> 04:30:22,331
the budget.

4094
04:30:24,492 --> 04:30:27,632
I know a lot of it is mandated by law,

4095
04:30:29,312 --> 04:30:32,952
and I think the discretionary part of the budget is relatively small.

4096
04:30:33,492 --> 04:30:33,752
Yes.

4097
04:30:36,412 --> 04:30:38,672
But this fiscal year, for example,

4098
04:30:40,672 --> 04:30:41,192
I think the

4099
04:30:45,332 --> 04:30:46,732
budget that we submitted

4100
04:30:48,452 --> 04:30:52,252
never really had a chance to be... There wasn't enough money there,

4101
04:30:52,532 --> 04:30:55,592
and I think we knew that when we submitted the recommendation.

4102
04:30:55,752 --> 04:30:55,932
Mm-hmm.

4103
04:30:57,512 --> 04:30:57,872
And

4104
04:30:59,012 --> 04:30:59,672
so my

4105
04:31:00,752 --> 04:31:02,112
comment or feedback is,

4106
04:31:02,952 --> 04:31:06,592
it would be nice to-- And you do a fantastic job

4107
04:31:07,032 --> 04:31:10,932
presenting this information in a way that we can, I don't want to say

4108
04:31:10,952 --> 04:31:12,552
easily understand, but it's

4109
04:31:13,412 --> 04:31:15,572
more understandable, I think, than it used to be,

4110
04:31:16,652 --> 04:31:19,492
which is great. But it would be nice to,

4111
04:31:20,672 --> 04:31:23,472
as we have these budget discussions,

4112
04:31:24,992 --> 04:31:27,352
if tough choices have to be made, right?

4113
04:31:27,382 --> 04:31:27,382
Yeah.

4114
04:31:27,392 --> 04:31:31,272
And if our state adequacy target is 130 million

4115
04:31:31,312 --> 04:31:34,152
or whatever it was less than we thought,

4116
04:31:34,172 --> 04:31:37,852
and we know that we're not going to get any additional money

4117
04:31:39,092 --> 04:31:40,752
in the next fiscal year,

4118
04:31:41,632 --> 04:31:45,392
what do we do? Do we just leave that 130 million unfunded, or do

4119
04:31:45,452 --> 04:31:49,151
we find places, right, where we can,

4120
04:31:49,652 --> 04:31:53,052
I don't want to say move money around, but request less in

4121
04:31:53,132 --> 04:31:57,102
some... Right? Even though everything is there for a reason, I get that,

4122
04:31:57,272 --> 04:31:59,752
but if we have to make those decisions, it would be

4123
04:32:00,692 --> 04:32:04,152
having the discussion about what changes we would make I think would be

4124
04:32:04,532 --> 04:32:04,872
helpful.

4125
04:32:05,272 --> 04:32:07,572
Sure. Let me speak to that for a moment.

4126
04:32:08,852 --> 04:32:12,632
First off, about the 138 million that we're short in lottery and gaming and

4127
04:32:12,672 --> 04:32:16,532
cigarette tax. When this budget was passed and went into

4128
04:32:16,572 --> 04:32:20,332
effect in the past, last year, July 1st, at that

4129
04:32:20,352 --> 04:32:23,692
point, we were not aware that was going to be a likely shortfall.

4130
04:32:24,632 --> 04:32:25,052
And

4131
04:32:26,832 --> 04:32:30,712
the inner workings of DESE, we pay money

4132
04:32:30,732 --> 04:32:33,872
to schools on a monthly basis for the foundation formula,

4133
04:32:35,032 --> 04:32:38,692
and we're trying to pay at the state adequacy

4134
04:32:38,752 --> 04:32:42,732
target, which this year is 7,145 per

4135
04:32:42,832 --> 04:32:43,932
ADA, okay?

4136
04:32:45,892 --> 04:32:49,822
But in years past, there's been situations where there ended up

4137
04:32:49,852 --> 04:32:53,732
being a shortfall in cash that came in, so where we wouldn't be able to

4138
04:32:53,792 --> 04:32:55,132
pay the total appropriation.

4139
04:32:55,932 --> 04:32:59,192
So the practice has been that we start paying at a lower level

4140
04:32:59,912 --> 04:33:01,852
and then build throughout the year.

4141
04:33:02,572 --> 04:33:06,133
So you get to June and you still have a relatively even payment.

4142
04:33:06,532 --> 04:33:10,432
Because there was a year back at the beginning of my career where there essentially

4143
04:33:10,492 --> 04:33:13,813
wasn't a June payment, and that's a tough spot to be in if you're a school

4144
04:33:13,892 --> 04:33:14,293
district.

4145
04:33:15,192 --> 04:33:18,621
So we actually started paying this year at $6,900

4146
04:33:19,532 --> 04:33:20,252
at that rate,

4147
04:33:21,813 --> 04:33:22,973
in July of '25.

4148
04:33:23,832 --> 04:33:27,751
And throughout the fall I was consulting with OA Budget and said, "Hey,

4149
04:33:28,072 --> 04:33:31,672
we need to move the state adequacy target payment up."

4150
04:33:32,332 --> 04:33:36,212
And I kept getting the response, "Well, there's not cash in those funds yet

4151
04:33:36,352 --> 04:33:40,232
available." And so in about January, February,

4152
04:33:40,272 --> 04:33:44,052
we did a deeper dive into, okay, well there's not cash there. What's going on?

4153
04:33:44,832 --> 04:33:48,432
And we actually worked with OA Budget to go back and look at the

4154
04:33:48,492 --> 04:33:51,482
last five years of the level of

4155
04:33:51,492 --> 04:33:55,232
appropriation versus what actually came in, and it was really

4156
04:33:55,293 --> 04:33:57,492
interesting. At the beginning of the five years,

4157
04:33:58,453 --> 04:34:02,352
the appropriation was below what was being received per

4158
04:34:02,412 --> 04:34:05,832
year, and it actually built a balance in the fund.

4159
04:34:06,633 --> 04:34:09,973
And so after a couple of years, the legislature raised the

4160
04:34:10,012 --> 04:34:13,973
appropriation actually above the amount that came

4161
04:34:13,992 --> 04:34:17,692
in on a yearly basis, and that, over a period of about three years,

4162
04:34:17,953 --> 04:34:21,012
used up the balance that had grown in that fund.

4163
04:34:21,572 --> 04:34:25,232
But then the appropriation was not right-sized to match the

4164
04:34:25,272 --> 04:34:28,352
amount that was actually coming in on a yearly basis.

4165
04:34:28,383 --> 04:34:32,133
And this year the shortfall ended up being 138 million among those three funds.

4166
04:34:33,172 --> 04:34:33,392
So

4167
04:34:34,752 --> 04:34:36,813
the good news of that story is that

4168
04:34:38,392 --> 04:34:41,512
we're actually going to end this year paying a little bit above

4169
04:34:41,793 --> 04:34:44,212
6,900, higher than what we started.

4170
04:34:44,252 --> 04:34:47,072
I think it's 6,958 and change is where we ended up.

4171
04:34:47,672 --> 04:34:51,532
We were looking to pay 7,145, so there is a shortfall.

4172
04:34:52,552 --> 04:34:54,432
But for fiscal year '27 budget,

4173
04:34:55,432 --> 04:34:58,372
since this issue had come to light, the legislators

4174
04:34:59,692 --> 04:35:01,473
actually made efforts to

4175
04:35:02,453 --> 04:35:06,372
reduce the appropriation appropriately in lottery and

4176
04:35:06,442 --> 04:35:09,142
cigarette and gaming tax, and then that left

4177
04:35:10,012 --> 04:35:13,953
a gap. And at least in the budget as submitted

4178
04:35:13,973 --> 04:35:16,372
to the governor, they filled that gap

4179
04:35:18,277 --> 04:35:22,036
Mostly, maybe entirely, with some one-time dollars.

4180
04:35:22,676 --> 04:35:25,356
So, that was a good thing that came out of this investigation.

4181
04:35:25,437 --> 04:35:29,196
But now to go to your question about we know it's going to be a tight budget

4182
04:35:29,257 --> 04:35:33,076
year, so what do we do? And there's a couple of

4183
04:35:33,117 --> 04:35:34,257
schools of thought on that.

4184
04:35:35,516 --> 04:35:38,396
And one school of thought is that

4185
04:35:40,076 --> 04:35:43,876
almost everything we send over as part of the budget is

4186
04:35:43,917 --> 04:35:47,296
either a calculated amount, for example, the foundation formula.

4187
04:35:47,976 --> 04:35:51,937
Those are very specific calculations. Here's what the formula requires.

4188
04:35:53,296 --> 04:35:56,786
And if you don't send that full number over,

4189
04:35:57,777 --> 04:35:59,437
then as a department,

4190
04:36:00,536 --> 04:36:04,097
have we done the appropriate work to request

4191
04:36:04,117 --> 04:36:05,667
support for all Missouri schools?

4192
04:36:06,216 --> 04:36:08,257
That's the question to think about and ponder.

4193
04:36:09,277 --> 04:36:10,496
And then there's the

4194
04:36:11,876 --> 04:36:14,257
other aspect of, okay, it's a tight budget year,

4195
04:36:15,296 --> 04:36:18,316
where should we offer up reductions?

4196
04:36:19,117 --> 04:36:19,576
And

4197
04:36:20,716 --> 04:36:24,617
there's also a school of thought that if you go into a year and

4198
04:36:24,696 --> 04:36:28,656
you offer up a, "We're going to request 10

4199
04:36:28,696 --> 04:36:30,376
million less in this area,"

4200
04:36:31,816 --> 04:36:32,176
then

4201
04:36:33,236 --> 04:36:35,196
is that taken as a

4202
04:36:36,016 --> 04:36:36,696
goodwill

4203
04:36:37,757 --> 04:36:40,437
gesture on the department in trying to do the right thing?

4204
04:36:41,296 --> 04:36:45,076
Or would that perhaps be seen as, okay, so there's 10 million that was

4205
04:36:45,136 --> 04:36:45,976
extra over there,

4206
04:36:47,097 --> 04:36:50,676
and they keep the $10 million we offered and also cut the budget

4207
04:36:50,736 --> 04:36:54,726
again. So it's a discussion that's probably worth having

4208
04:36:54,796 --> 04:36:55,216
at the

4209
04:36:56,376 --> 04:37:00,316
executive and board level about how we want to proceed on the budget when we

4210
04:37:00,356 --> 04:37:03,456
get into the fiscal year '28 budget. Did that make sense?

4211
04:37:03,516 --> 04:37:04,556
Yes, absolutely. Thank you.

4212
04:37:07,356 --> 04:37:07,617
Okay. Okay.

4213
04:37:09,097 --> 04:37:13,007
What's on the screen now, and I think you have copies at your desk, is

4214
04:37:13,216 --> 04:37:14,867
a brief executive summary

4215
04:37:15,676 --> 04:37:17,956
of the fiscal year '27 budget.

4216
04:37:18,836 --> 04:37:20,376
And this is the budget that we

4217
04:37:21,437 --> 04:37:22,097
developed

4218
04:37:23,496 --> 04:37:27,456
last year in July, August, September, that the board approved

4219
04:37:27,556 --> 04:37:29,376
in September. We turned it in in October,

4220
04:37:30,356 --> 04:37:34,176
and then it went to the legislature this past January, February, March, April,

4221
04:37:34,257 --> 04:37:38,076
May, and it has just emerged at the middle of May.

4222
04:37:38,696 --> 04:37:42,656
And this would be the budget that goes into effect for the coming school year,

4223
04:37:43,097 --> 04:37:46,757
the '26-27 school year, which we refer to as the fiscal year

4224
04:37:46,777 --> 04:37:47,476
'27.

4225
04:37:48,617 --> 04:37:52,516
It's still waiting on action from the governor, and that's why we haven't

4226
04:37:52,556 --> 04:37:56,446
developed the full presentation for you yet, is because there are a

4227
04:37:56,516 --> 04:38:00,265
lot of things the governor could strike in that budget,

4228
04:38:00,786 --> 04:38:03,937
and we don't want to put out information that's not entirely correct.

4229
04:38:04,516 --> 04:38:08,196
So at the recommendation of Ms. Casey and Mr.

4230
04:38:08,417 --> 04:38:12,097
Otto during our last finance committee meeting, we agreed to

4231
04:38:12,156 --> 04:38:15,516
simply bring back what we presented at the May meeting

4232
04:38:16,136 --> 04:38:19,036
when the budget had just been passed.

4233
04:38:19,636 --> 04:38:23,336
And this is a high-level look at what we consider the noteworthy

4234
04:38:23,437 --> 04:38:27,336
items that are in the budget that I think you need

4235
04:38:27,356 --> 04:38:28,316
to know about. So

4236
04:38:29,156 --> 04:38:31,257
the first item is the foundation formula.

4237
04:38:31,976 --> 04:38:35,656
Again, that is the funding we send to school districts across the

4238
04:38:35,696 --> 04:38:38,806
state, and it's based on the state

4239
04:38:39,356 --> 04:38:40,716
statute formula.

4240
04:38:41,566 --> 04:38:45,437
The amount of core funding, that is the amount of the base level,

4241
04:38:45,597 --> 04:38:46,816
the amount that was in last year,

4242
04:38:48,316 --> 04:38:51,956
is going to stay the same as in the current school year, fiscal year

4243
04:38:51,966 --> 04:38:52,597
'26.

4244
04:38:53,406 --> 04:38:55,876
This budget includes core funding of

4245
04:38:55,885 --> 04:38:59,456
$4.28273600 billion.

4246
04:39:00,796 --> 04:39:04,736
And I noted this earlier, the legislature did reduce the reliance

4247
04:39:04,796 --> 04:39:08,456
on lottery and schools money fund, and

4248
04:39:08,496 --> 04:39:12,316
classroom trust fund. That's the lottery and cigarette and gaming tax.

4249
04:39:12,356 --> 04:39:15,736
And that should alleviate the shortfall in those areas to a certain

4250
04:39:15,777 --> 04:39:19,656
extent. We're projecting a shortfall of $118

4251
04:39:19,676 --> 04:39:23,056
million in those three areas, but the

4252
04:39:23,066 --> 04:39:26,777
legislature did plug that gap, at least partly,

4253
04:39:27,356 --> 04:39:27,597
with

4254
04:39:28,417 --> 04:39:29,476
some one-time dollars.

4255
04:39:30,396 --> 04:39:32,476
That's still subject to governor action.

4256
04:39:32,676 --> 04:39:36,376
So the legislature did make an effort, and we'll see what

4257
04:39:36,417 --> 04:39:37,586
happens with the governor's work.

4258
04:39:39,416 --> 04:39:40,956
I mentioned earlier a new decision item.

4259
04:39:42,456 --> 04:39:46,116
The formula for '26-27 actually

4260
04:39:46,156 --> 04:39:50,136
required an extra $190.6 million in order

4261
04:39:50,156 --> 04:39:50,976
to be fully funded.

4262
04:39:52,036 --> 04:39:55,996
And since the legislature did not appropriate an

4263
04:39:56,056 --> 04:39:58,856
additional $190.6 million,

4264
04:39:59,996 --> 04:40:03,436
the state adequacy target of

4265
04:40:03,496 --> 04:40:06,556
7,145 is not going to be achievable.

4266
04:40:07,256 --> 04:40:10,136
So even though the formula calls for schools to get paid at a rate of

4267
04:40:10,336 --> 04:40:12,716
7,145, it's not going to happen.

4268
04:40:13,996 --> 04:40:16,396
At this time, our best estimate is that

4269
04:40:17,356 --> 04:40:18,056
given

4270
04:40:18,876 --> 04:40:22,596
the revenues we can expect and assuming that some

4271
04:40:22,616 --> 04:40:26,376
dollars stay in the budget and the governor doesn't strike them, we

4272
04:40:26,416 --> 04:40:30,376
believe we'll be able to pay at a rate between 6,800

4273
04:40:30,596 --> 04:40:34,256
and 6,900, which is pretty similar to what we have

4274
04:40:34,316 --> 04:40:35,196
achieved this year.

4275
04:40:36,116 --> 04:40:39,316
So it's not a terrible outcome. Again, we are paying

4276
04:40:39,536 --> 04:40:43,416
6,958 this year. If I had to hazard a guess,

4277
04:40:43,516 --> 04:40:46,236
I'm thinking we may come in just at or just under

4278
04:40:46,536 --> 04:40:47,596
6,900

4279
04:40:48,416 --> 04:40:51,216
for fiscal year '27, the '26-27 school year.

4280
04:40:51,676 --> 04:40:52,676
So we're in the ballpark.

4281
04:40:55,636 --> 04:40:56,216
Yes?

4282
04:40:56,316 --> 04:40:59,396
I got a quick question. Going back to your first bullet here-

4283
04:40:59,656 --> 04:40:59,936
Yes

4284
04:40:59,956 --> 04:41:03,576
... where you said there was a shortfall, but the

4285
04:41:03,596 --> 04:41:05,436
legislature kind of filled that gap.

4286
04:41:07,236 --> 04:41:10,836
Is somebody from DESE advocating or helping the

4287
04:41:10,876 --> 04:41:11,776
legislature to-

4288
04:41:12,276 --> 04:41:13,736
Yeah, what happened there was

4289
04:41:14,816 --> 04:41:17,896
in doing our due diligence, watching the budget throughout,

4290
04:41:19,496 --> 04:41:21,745
we're seeing what the legislature's appropriating

4291
04:41:22,756 --> 04:41:26,696
And then when we dug into the lottery and cigarette

4292
04:41:26,716 --> 04:41:30,036
and gaming tax dollars, we saw the shortfall that had

4293
04:41:30,076 --> 04:41:33,956
occurred in fiscal year '26, and we looked into what was likely to

4294
04:41:34,016 --> 04:41:35,036
happen in '27.

4295
04:41:36,356 --> 04:41:39,836
And every spring, we actually go out to

4296
04:41:40,236 --> 04:41:43,756
the conferences that are sponsored by the School

4297
04:41:43,836 --> 04:41:47,736
Administrators' Associations, and we give budget updates, and we try to

4298
04:41:47,776 --> 04:41:50,726
give them our best projections of what to expect for next year,

4299
04:41:51,636 --> 04:41:55,516
because school districts between March and

4300
04:41:55,556 --> 04:41:57,356
the end of June are building their budgets.

4301
04:41:58,176 --> 04:42:02,056
And so I actually went to a couple conferences

4302
04:42:02,136 --> 04:42:03,436
and laid out

4303
04:42:04,456 --> 04:42:06,356
the way things look in terms of

4304
04:42:07,356 --> 04:42:09,876
dollars this year, $138 million short,

4305
04:42:10,776 --> 04:42:14,416
and dollars for next year. And at that time, we were projecting a

4306
04:42:14,426 --> 04:42:18,136
$118 million shortfall, and I explained how that would be

4307
04:42:18,176 --> 04:42:20,605
likely to affect school finances.

4308
04:42:21,716 --> 04:42:25,696
And, when you put something like that out to 500 superintendents, which we had

4309
04:42:25,736 --> 04:42:29,596
to do. We can't let them build budgets on false information.

4310
04:42:30,156 --> 04:42:33,216
We can't let them think everything's A-okay, put the full number in there.

4311
04:42:35,216 --> 04:42:37,576
Word got back to the legislature, and then we

4312
04:42:38,596 --> 04:42:41,696
were in consultation then with a couple legislators who wanted to change

4313
04:42:41,716 --> 04:42:43,276
that. And

4314
04:42:44,096 --> 04:42:47,556
Senator Black was one. He's head of Appropriations in the Senate.

4315
04:42:48,036 --> 04:42:52,016
He was heavily involved in working out a way to help plug that gap, and I believe

4316
04:42:52,056 --> 04:42:53,956
they've used some dollars from,

4317
04:42:55,476 --> 04:42:58,056
this sounds odd, the Blind Pension Fund.

4318
04:42:58,736 --> 04:43:02,516
There's a Blind Pension Fund, and the only two uses for it are to support

4319
04:43:03,256 --> 04:43:07,036
Missourians who are blind and to support education.

4320
04:43:07,116 --> 04:43:09,636
So using some money in there was okay.

4321
04:43:09,696 --> 04:43:11,576
And they've also tapped

4322
04:43:12,676 --> 04:43:16,426
the Capital Commission Fund, the Building Commission Fund,

4323
04:43:16,916 --> 04:43:20,576
and that's basically general revenue money, so it was accessible.

4324
04:43:20,596 --> 04:43:22,916
And those are the two main sources they've used to help plug the gap.

4325
04:43:23,456 --> 04:43:26,816
So did we go advocate to fill the gap?

4326
04:43:27,156 --> 04:43:31,035
Not really, but we did explain what's going on.

4327
04:43:31,616 --> 04:43:33,275
And the legislature,

4328
04:43:34,176 --> 04:43:35,556
they listened and made some changes.

4329
04:43:36,116 --> 04:43:40,096
Yeah, no, I think that's good that they did it on their own, to be

4330
04:43:40,136 --> 04:43:43,035
honest. But I think that's one thing that we need to make sure

4331
04:43:45,096 --> 04:43:48,976
with the transition and everything going forward, that we maintain that level of

4332
04:43:49,056 --> 04:43:50,896
information and detail so that

4333
04:43:51,976 --> 04:43:55,736
people in the State House, their

4334
04:43:55,796 --> 04:43:58,816
constituents will know, "Hey, this is something that's really important.

4335
04:44:00,036 --> 04:44:00,856
Can't just cut this."

4336
04:44:01,276 --> 04:44:04,876
Well, and I agree, and that's a goal of mine is to make sure that you have all the

4337
04:44:04,896 --> 04:44:06,396
information you need to,

4338
04:44:07,956 --> 04:44:11,636
if the board chooses to actually advocate for funding for schools.

4339
04:44:11,876 --> 04:44:12,936
So we appreciate that.

4340
04:44:14,336 --> 04:44:16,316
Anyway, going to transportation.

4341
04:44:17,936 --> 04:44:19,036
In the current year budget,

4342
04:44:19,976 --> 04:44:23,496
there's about $377, $78 million

4343
04:44:23,916 --> 04:44:25,716
for transportation that's appropriated,

4344
04:44:26,536 --> 04:44:28,156
and it's going to be almost enough.

4345
04:44:28,296 --> 04:44:32,016
We're going to be able to pay out at about 94% of what we

4346
04:44:32,076 --> 04:44:34,196
should pay total for transportation.

4347
04:44:35,176 --> 04:44:36,956
But part of the current year funding

4348
04:44:37,796 --> 04:44:41,776
was one-time money. Actually, $15 million was marked one

4349
04:44:41,876 --> 04:44:45,336
time. So when we look at the fiscal year

4350
04:44:45,345 --> 04:44:47,876
'27 budget, you have the core,

4351
04:44:48,856 --> 04:44:52,646
which is money that's not marked one time, of $361

4352
04:44:52,696 --> 04:44:53,036
million.

4353
04:44:54,266 --> 04:44:58,196
But then we had to ask for an additional 15.2

4354
04:44:58,236 --> 04:45:01,996
million to get back to the same level that we have for current

4355
04:45:02,036 --> 04:45:02,236
year.

4356
04:45:03,136 --> 04:45:06,556
And so we did actually ask for that, and we also asked for

4357
04:45:07,076 --> 04:45:10,856
an additional 15 million beyond that because expenses are going up.

4358
04:45:11,196 --> 04:45:13,596
If you bought diesel fuel recently, you know what I'm talking about.

4359
04:45:15,186 --> 04:45:19,036
The legislature did not approve the additional money,

4360
04:45:19,316 --> 04:45:22,976
but they did put us back to, for fiscal year

4361
04:45:22,986 --> 04:45:26,836
'27, the same amount that we have been appropriated

4362
04:45:26,916 --> 04:45:28,476
for fiscal year '26.

4363
04:45:29,576 --> 04:45:29,836
So

4364
04:45:30,756 --> 04:45:34,716
next year, due to increased costs, we think we should be able to reimburse

4365
04:45:34,776 --> 04:45:38,476
at about 90% of what the formula calls for

4366
04:45:38,516 --> 04:45:39,576
schools to be reimbursed.

4367
04:45:41,316 --> 04:45:42,256
Childcare subsidy.

4368
04:45:43,576 --> 04:45:45,356
It's been a tough one.

4369
04:45:46,896 --> 04:45:50,876
There has been a lot of federal money that has been used in not only

4370
04:45:50,936 --> 04:45:54,716
current year, but past years to support childcare subsidy, and that has essentially

4371
04:45:54,756 --> 04:45:57,436
run out. So we did have to request

4372
04:45:58,016 --> 04:46:01,896
$139 million extra out of general revenue

4373
04:46:02,596 --> 04:46:05,536
for fiscal year '27 to make the childcare subsidy thing work.

4374
04:46:06,836 --> 04:46:10,776
There was a question about,

4375
04:46:10,916 --> 04:46:13,236
do we move to paying on enrollment

4376
04:46:14,176 --> 04:46:17,966
or, sorry, pay on authorization, or do we continue paying

4377
04:46:18,016 --> 04:46:19,546
only for students who are in attendance?

4378
04:46:20,436 --> 04:46:23,396
And things have kind of worked out now so that it looks like we're going to be

4379
04:46:23,456 --> 04:46:27,436
paying on attendance. There's a question about how many absent days

4380
04:46:27,516 --> 04:46:31,476
we can reimburse, and can we increase that from what's currently allowed?

4381
04:46:31,656 --> 04:46:34,016
Five days of absence can be reimbursed anyway.

4382
04:46:34,656 --> 04:46:36,136
Can we increase that?

4383
04:46:38,316 --> 04:46:42,256
The long story short is that the whole budget ends up being $343

4384
04:46:42,316 --> 04:46:46,236
million again for fiscal year '27, just as it was in

4385
04:46:46,296 --> 04:46:48,496
fiscal year '26. But

4386
04:46:49,576 --> 04:46:51,676
the usage of this program has gone up.

4387
04:46:52,176 --> 04:46:55,856
So we're going to have to watch carefully how the money's going out,

4388
04:46:56,676 --> 04:46:58,916
and we may have to take some steps to

4389
04:47:00,676 --> 04:47:04,416
modify the rates that are being paid to all the providers.

4390
04:47:05,236 --> 04:47:08,916
And the budget language also contains a clause that says

4391
04:47:08,976 --> 04:47:12,656
DESE is to conduct a stakeholder group to determine

4392
04:47:12,716 --> 04:47:15,796
how enhancements and other reimbursements can be determined in the future.

4393
04:47:16,226 --> 04:47:20,216
So essentially, childcare subsidy stays similar to

4394
04:47:20,256 --> 04:47:23,616
what it is currently, but we'll have to watch the budget because we could pretty

4395
04:47:23,696 --> 04:47:25,116
easily run our budget in this area.

4396
04:47:27,176 --> 04:47:30,156
Missouri Quality Pre-K, there's two lanes here.

4397
04:47:30,676 --> 04:47:34,546
You have one version of this, one lane goes to

4398
04:47:34,576 --> 04:47:38,476
childcare providers that are not schools, and

4399
04:47:38,556 --> 04:47:42,056
that grant program was reduced by $11 million, which is

4400
04:47:42,096 --> 04:47:45,456
essentially the amount of money that wasn't being used.

4401
04:47:46,316 --> 04:47:50,086
There was an appropriation higher than usage, so that was reduced by

4402
04:47:50,136 --> 04:47:53,456
$11 million. The other side, the pre-K

4403
04:47:53,556 --> 04:47:56,916
program administered by schools, local education

4404
04:47:57,036 --> 04:47:59,936
agencies, it was reduced by $20 million.

4405
04:48:00,316 --> 04:48:02,296
And there really wasn't any lapse in this area.

4406
04:48:02,856 --> 04:48:06,076
So, a $20 million reduction means that

4407
04:48:06,756 --> 04:48:10,576
schools will need to find different ways to fund

4408
04:48:10,596 --> 04:48:14,416
their programs in this area, or perhaps

4409
04:48:14,425 --> 04:48:17,626
serve fewer children, or

4410
04:48:18,296 --> 04:48:22,256
work up some kind of a situation where they can actually require parents

4411
04:48:22,316 --> 04:48:26,136
to pay, perhaps on a sliding scale, to keep their kids

4412
04:48:26,236 --> 04:48:27,936
in the school-sponsored pre-K.

4413
04:48:28,745 --> 04:48:31,196
So, that grant program did change.

4414
04:48:32,456 --> 04:48:35,486
Career Ladder, again, the program that supports teacher salaries,

4415
04:48:36,856 --> 04:48:40,556
for extra dollars for teachers. Funding's set at $52.5 million.

4416
04:48:40,616 --> 04:48:44,376
That should allow us to fund at the same level that we did last year.

4417
04:48:45,856 --> 04:48:47,136
Teacher recruitment and retention.

4418
04:48:47,956 --> 04:48:51,756
There's actually statute that says there should be so much

4419
04:48:51,796 --> 04:48:55,656
money available every year, and it gives a specific amount per

4420
04:48:55,736 --> 04:48:58,456
year that's supposed to be made available for teacher scholarships to get new

4421
04:48:58,496 --> 04:48:58,886
teachers,

4422
04:48:59,736 --> 04:49:03,396
and that had been underfunded. The funding actually was increased from

4423
04:49:03,476 --> 04:49:07,096
$800,000 to $1.6 million, which is a step in the right

4424
04:49:07,136 --> 04:49:10,596
direction for sure, although I think we're still behind what statute

4425
04:49:10,616 --> 04:49:14,596
specifies. But we will be providing more scholarships to students pursuing

4426
04:49:14,636 --> 04:49:16,716
degrees in education.

4427
04:49:18,556 --> 04:49:22,056
Dr. Katnik's programs, Missouri Leadership Development, Missouri Teacher

4428
04:49:22,116 --> 04:49:22,666
Development,

4429
04:49:24,896 --> 04:49:26,096
are still whole.

4430
04:49:29,096 --> 04:49:33,036
Their core funding was restored. It was out for a minute,

4431
04:49:33,296 --> 04:49:35,776
I think in the House version maybe, but it did come back.

4432
04:49:37,016 --> 04:49:37,596
There is

4433
04:49:38,616 --> 04:49:41,496
still funding for letters and literacy coaches.

4434
04:49:42,456 --> 04:49:43,756
I've already mentioned the

4435
04:49:45,736 --> 04:49:46,956
Imagination Library.

4436
04:49:47,856 --> 04:49:48,036
Okay.

4437
04:49:48,636 --> 04:49:49,696
Yep. Mm-hmm.

4438
04:49:50,596 --> 04:49:51,036
Sure, go ahead.

4439
04:49:51,656 --> 04:49:53,606
On the Success Ready Student Assessment-

4440
04:49:53,816 --> 04:49:54,076
Yes

4441
04:49:54,856 --> 04:49:56,796
... so I know the funding was removed for that.

4442
04:49:58,096 --> 04:49:59,336
The small scale pilot

4443
04:50:00,576 --> 04:50:02,806
took place earlier this calendar year-

4444
04:50:03,176 --> 04:50:03,356
Right

4445
04:50:03,796 --> 04:50:07,376
... with plans to build that out or

4446
04:50:07,396 --> 04:50:10,916
expand the pilot. So what happens

4447
04:50:10,985 --> 04:50:11,476
to

4448
04:50:13,196 --> 04:50:15,496
that now? Does it just go away?

4449
04:50:15,916 --> 04:50:18,676
My understanding is that that program would be,

4450
04:50:19,816 --> 04:50:20,476
pick your term,

4451
04:50:21,296 --> 04:50:23,056
put on hold, paused,

4452
04:50:24,776 --> 04:50:27,976
stopped, either temporarily or perhaps permanently.

4453
04:50:28,356 --> 04:50:29,916
So the timeline that we saw

4454
04:50:31,076 --> 04:50:34,696
presented where it talked about, I think it was a few months ago, where it talked

4455
04:50:34,736 --> 04:50:35,136
about the,

4456
04:50:36,136 --> 04:50:39,956
I can't remember how many students it was, but a small sample, and then it was

4457
04:50:39,996 --> 04:50:40,985
going to expand over the-

4458
04:50:40,996 --> 04:50:42,066
Expand this year. Right

4459
04:50:42,066 --> 04:50:45,596
... couple of years. So it's basically just on hold.

4460
04:50:46,136 --> 04:50:46,236
That-

4461
04:50:46,936 --> 04:50:50,376
I'd want to confirm that, but my understanding is that, yes, that program is

4462
04:50:50,416 --> 04:50:53,006
essentially on hold, and we're not planning to

4463
04:50:53,856 --> 04:50:56,556
proceed with a bigger pilot during current year.

4464
04:50:57,696 --> 04:50:57,886
Thank you.

4465
04:50:57,886 --> 04:50:58,116
Commissioner.

4466
04:50:59,076 --> 04:50:59,316
Okay.

4467
04:51:01,876 --> 04:51:05,796
Voc Rehab, their core funding was approved, and their request for $15 million

4468
04:51:05,836 --> 04:51:08,015
was also approved. Those are largely federal funds.

4469
04:51:08,996 --> 04:51:09,896
And all told,

4470
04:51:10,736 --> 04:51:14,436
DESE staffing had a net reduction of just

4471
04:51:14,556 --> 04:51:18,356
over 12 FTE. A lot of those had been vacant, or

4472
04:51:18,596 --> 04:51:21,816
there's one or two that we hadn't filled because the money, the program had not

4473
04:51:21,886 --> 04:51:23,936
taken off, hadn't been put into place.

4474
04:51:24,816 --> 04:51:26,296
There was a plus two

4475
04:51:27,136 --> 04:51:30,996
FTE for the Missouri Charter School Commission to

4476
04:51:31,016 --> 04:51:32,276
help expand charter schools.

4477
04:51:33,476 --> 04:51:35,476
And again, my last note is that

4478
04:51:36,296 --> 04:51:40,196
this information is prior to signature by the governor,

4479
04:51:40,476 --> 04:51:44,256
so it's still subject to change. He has latitude to do some vetoes, including line

4480
04:51:44,316 --> 04:51:47,976
item vetoes. We would expect the governor to sign the budget bill

4481
04:51:48,096 --> 04:51:49,596
sometime before the end of this month.

4482
04:51:50,976 --> 04:51:51,376
And

4483
04:51:52,796 --> 04:51:56,616
as far as the exact funding projections, I mentioned paying

4484
04:51:56,696 --> 04:52:00,016
schools at, we hope, $6,900 next

4485
04:52:00,076 --> 04:52:03,896
year. That could fluctuate depending on what we get in updated

4486
04:52:03,976 --> 04:52:07,096
information on student enrollment and other factors that play in.

4487
04:52:07,756 --> 04:52:09,516
Are there more free or reduced lunch students?

4488
04:52:09,616 --> 04:52:13,296
Because that is a weight on the formula. Are there more special ed students?

4489
04:52:13,336 --> 04:52:14,576
That's an extra weight in the formula.

4490
04:52:15,476 --> 04:52:19,376
But that's where we're at today. And that leads me into the third part of our

4491
04:52:19,416 --> 04:52:23,036
talk, and it's very short, and that is each

4492
04:52:23,156 --> 04:52:23,476
year,

4493
04:52:24,836 --> 04:52:26,316
the budget the governor signs

4494
04:52:27,396 --> 04:52:30,996
to go into effect on July 1st becomes the starting point

4495
04:52:31,476 --> 04:52:31,876
for

4496
04:52:32,716 --> 04:52:35,556
building the fiscal year '28 budget.

4497
04:52:35,976 --> 04:52:39,856
So '27, which the legislature just passed, and is awaiting the signature

4498
04:52:39,896 --> 04:52:43,476
by the governor, will be the core funding, the

4499
04:52:43,516 --> 04:52:47,316
baseline that we start with for fiscal year '28.

4500
04:52:48,116 --> 04:52:49,346
So during July,

4501
04:52:50,956 --> 04:52:54,856
Rebecca Jackson here, our chief budget officer, is going to be extremely busy, and

4502
04:52:54,896 --> 04:52:58,796
I'll be working with her, and she already has meetings set up with,

4503
04:52:58,876 --> 04:53:00,136
I believe, all the offices.

4504
04:53:00,476 --> 04:53:00,566
Right.

4505
04:53:00,956 --> 04:53:04,876
And you'll be reviewing their current budget and their budget requests for

4506
04:53:05,396 --> 04:53:07,396
the next year and assembling those.

4507
04:53:07,696 --> 04:53:09,396
Do you want to talk about that process for a moment?

4508
04:53:10,336 --> 04:53:13,856
Especially since I'm brand new to DESE,

4509
04:53:14,176 --> 04:53:18,036
and my team is... I have one person that moved

4510
04:53:18,576 --> 04:53:22,416
from areas. She moved from procurement into budget, so she knows DESE,

4511
04:53:22,546 --> 04:53:25,536
but she doesn't know budget. So we're all new.

4512
04:53:25,576 --> 04:53:29,136
We're going to meet with all the programs and all the executive leadership,

4513
04:53:29,596 --> 04:53:32,696
find out about their programs, find out what their needs are, what they think that

4514
04:53:32,736 --> 04:53:34,956
they need as far as new decision items,

4515
04:53:35,896 --> 04:53:38,296
if they think that they'll need a supplemental for '27.

4516
04:53:38,796 --> 04:53:42,656
And then those are the items that we'll bring forward to you all after discussion

4517
04:53:42,716 --> 04:53:46,576
with the commissioner and Kyle. They'll prioritize,

4518
04:53:46,676 --> 04:53:49,696
bring those items to you, and then you guys will decide what we want to bring

4519
04:53:49,736 --> 04:53:50,516
forward with the budget.

4520
04:53:51,616 --> 04:53:55,176
And, uh, Carrie Casey and John Otto as Finance Committee,

4521
04:53:55,796 --> 04:53:59,776
uh, again, are planning to be heavily involved

4522
04:53:59,836 --> 04:54:01,916
in the budget process for fiscal year '28

4523
04:54:02,836 --> 04:54:06,656
and talk about, okay, do we actually include

4524
04:54:06,776 --> 04:54:10,576
all the things that are in the '27 budget as we

4525
04:54:10,616 --> 04:54:14,556
roll into '28? Or what's the appropriate, um, move

4526
04:54:14,616 --> 04:54:17,456
to modify or continue? And,

4527
04:54:18,616 --> 04:54:20,296
again, the budget itself,

4528
04:54:21,296 --> 04:54:23,476
when you read House Bill 2,

4529
04:54:24,416 --> 04:54:28,396
it's very prescriptive about what each line item does

4530
04:54:28,416 --> 04:54:31,156
and how much money, and the amounts of dollars

4531
04:54:32,116 --> 04:54:36,016
are almost exclusively from a calculated amount or from a

4532
04:54:36,056 --> 04:54:39,976
fiscal note, and that is when the legislature was passing a

4533
04:54:40,056 --> 04:54:41,696
bill, they would ask us,

4534
04:54:42,576 --> 04:54:43,836
"How much is this going to cost?"

4535
04:54:44,676 --> 04:54:48,116
And we would have to perform calculations about, this many

4536
04:54:48,236 --> 04:54:51,976
FTE and this expense, and the fiscal note

4537
04:54:52,036 --> 04:54:55,296
ends up being the dollar amount that's in the budget, is how it usually works.

4538
04:54:55,856 --> 04:54:59,396
But we will need to talk about how the board wants to proceed and the questions

4539
04:54:59,436 --> 04:55:02,996
that Mr. Matusik brought up in terms of, we know it's a tight budget year,

4540
04:55:03,336 --> 04:55:04,056
so what do we do?

4541
04:55:04,996 --> 04:55:07,916
Uh, we'll need to talk about the fact that

4542
04:55:09,176 --> 04:55:12,396
assuming the governor signs the bill, the current bill as is,

4543
04:55:13,096 --> 04:55:15,656
there's one-time money in there supporting the formula.

4544
04:55:16,556 --> 04:55:20,136
I mentioned from the Blind Pension Fund and the Capital Commission Fund, that's one

4545
04:55:20,216 --> 04:55:22,336
time. So- There's a- I'm sorry?

4546
04:55:24,996 --> 04:55:25,786
There's a bump of $190 million. Yeah.

4547
04:55:25,786 --> 04:55:29,216
There's also the $190 million that was not

4548
04:55:29,236 --> 04:55:33,196
appropriated that won't go away. It'll still be a shortfall of the

4549
04:55:33,236 --> 04:55:37,136
formula for next year. So between the $190 million the formula called

4550
04:55:37,196 --> 04:55:41,156
for for next year that we are not going to receive, and then the

4551
04:55:41,166 --> 04:55:44,516
$118 million that has been at least partially filled by one-time

4552
04:55:45,276 --> 04:55:48,796
money, there could be a substantial shortfall

4553
04:55:48,836 --> 04:55:52,536
between what the formula calculates and what the

4554
04:55:52,596 --> 04:55:56,376
core budget amount is in the

4555
04:55:56,416 --> 04:55:59,596
fiscal year '28, which means we would need a fairly

4556
04:56:00,316 --> 04:56:03,856
sizable new decision item, a request for additional

4557
04:56:03,916 --> 04:56:07,256
money to move towards full funding of the formula.

4558
04:56:07,736 --> 04:56:11,556
So those will be big decisions the board has on the horizon, and we'll certainly

4559
04:56:11,616 --> 04:56:14,726
try to provide you all the information you need going forward to go make good

4560
04:56:14,776 --> 04:56:16,976
decisions and, uh, guide the department.

4561
04:56:17,056 --> 04:56:19,696
But I'd be glad to answer any questions this time.

4562
04:56:21,776 --> 04:56:22,536
Mr. Matusik.

4563
04:56:22,816 --> 04:56:24,076
Uh, thank you, Kyle. Uh,

4564
04:56:26,756 --> 04:56:30,736
when the state adequacy

4565
04:56:30,776 --> 04:56:34,516
target isn't met, right, so if it's $6,900, just simple

4566
04:56:34,596 --> 04:56:36,396
math, $200 less.

4567
04:56:38,916 --> 04:56:41,656
You know, if you take a small rural district-

4568
04:56:41,916 --> 04:56:41,996
Right

4569
04:56:42,076 --> 04:56:45,056
... with 100 students, you know, that's $20,000.

4570
04:56:45,096 --> 04:56:45,485
You take

4571
04:56:46,696 --> 04:56:50,296
a suburban district with, say, 4,000

4572
04:56:50,416 --> 04:56:53,196
students, you know, that's what 800,000 or...

4573
04:56:53,976 --> 04:56:57,896
I think like Park Hill in the Kansas City area has over 10,000 students, so

4574
04:56:57,936 --> 04:57:01,156
that's a couple million dollars. Um, I'm less familiar with

4575
04:57:01,856 --> 04:57:05,176
Kansas City, how many students they have and, but

4576
04:57:06,436 --> 04:57:08,335
are there districts that

4577
04:57:09,396 --> 04:57:11,276
can weather that better than others?

4578
04:57:11,316 --> 04:57:13,876
Does it hurt rural districts more?

4579
04:57:13,936 --> 04:57:14,496
Does it hurt-

4580
04:57:15,216 --> 04:57:15,226
Yeah

4581
04:57:15,226 --> 04:57:17,116
... or do they all feel the similar pain?

4582
04:57:17,536 --> 04:57:20,436
Do you care if I go off in the weeds here a little bit to explain that question

4583
04:57:20,456 --> 04:57:20,896
properly?

4584
04:57:21,096 --> 04:57:21,216
Yeah.

4585
04:57:21,596 --> 04:57:21,856
Okay.

4586
04:57:22,856 --> 04:57:26,296
First off, um, the ability to weather these

4587
04:57:26,356 --> 04:57:27,106
situations,

4588
04:57:28,036 --> 04:57:31,456
it's going to vary dramatically district to district,

4589
04:57:32,036 --> 04:57:32,436
and

4590
04:57:33,356 --> 04:57:35,536
there's two parts to that. Number one,

4591
04:57:36,536 --> 04:57:40,276
how heavily does that district depend on local funding, property

4592
04:57:40,356 --> 04:57:44,296
tax funding, versus how heavily does that district depend

4593
04:57:44,376 --> 04:57:47,756
on formula funding? We have schools we refer to

4594
04:57:47,896 --> 04:57:51,656
as formula-dependent schools because they get a

4595
04:57:51,696 --> 04:57:54,956
majority of their dollars through the state formula, and those

4596
04:57:54,996 --> 04:57:58,896
districts will generally take a bigger hit if the

4597
04:57:58,956 --> 04:58:01,516
formula's underfunded. The way the formula's set up,

4598
04:58:02,336 --> 04:58:06,146
it's not that we send $6,900 to every district for every

4599
04:58:06,236 --> 04:58:06,516
kid.

4600
04:58:07,596 --> 04:58:11,566
It's set up that that's the target that we're supposed to have behind each

4601
04:58:11,616 --> 04:58:15,566
kid through a combination of state dollars stacked on top

4602
04:58:15,596 --> 04:58:19,556
of local dollars. The formula essentially calculates how

4603
04:58:19,576 --> 04:58:23,536
many local dollars a community should be able to

4604
04:58:23,576 --> 04:58:24,616
supply per kid,

4605
04:58:25,656 --> 04:58:27,356
and then the state makes up the difference.

4606
04:58:27,976 --> 04:58:31,796
So if you're from Koshkonong, you know, if you've been there,

4607
04:58:31,856 --> 04:58:35,686
it's Oregon, Howell R-3 down south central Missouri, there's essentially

4608
04:58:35,776 --> 04:58:39,176
no industry. And it's a very nice community, but it's all

4609
04:58:39,296 --> 04:58:42,956
agricultural land and property tax, um, revenue

4610
04:58:43,076 --> 04:58:46,596
is at a very much lesser

4611
04:58:46,636 --> 04:58:50,016
level than, say, in Ladue. And so

4612
04:58:50,536 --> 04:58:54,166
Oregon, Howell R-3 would be considered probably a formula-dependent

4613
04:58:54,256 --> 04:58:58,116
school, and it's more difficult for them because the state

4614
04:58:58,176 --> 04:59:01,256
money gets hit, then they take the hit.

4615
04:59:02,416 --> 04:59:06,256
A district like Ladue, um, they don't receive very much state

4616
04:59:06,316 --> 04:59:10,196
money actually per student, and that's because their local property,

4617
04:59:10,856 --> 04:59:11,076
um,

4618
04:59:11,976 --> 04:59:14,036
revenue is significantly higher.

4619
04:59:15,016 --> 04:59:18,996
So their reduction in state dollars may not be

4620
04:59:19,096 --> 04:59:21,956
as significant as it is for other districts throughout the state.

4621
04:59:22,616 --> 04:59:24,056
And then there are some districts

4622
04:59:24,996 --> 04:59:27,016
that we refer to as hold harmless districts.

4623
04:59:29,476 --> 04:59:32,096
When this formula was passed back in '04 or '05,

4624
04:59:33,096 --> 04:59:33,396
um,

4625
04:59:34,496 --> 04:59:37,896
you know, no legislator wants to see their school district get less,

4626
04:59:38,736 --> 04:59:42,236
and the formula currently in place would've given less

4627
04:59:42,796 --> 04:59:45,556
to some districts than the previous formula.

4628
04:59:46,416 --> 04:59:49,996
So the compromise was that those districts would continue

4629
04:59:50,016 --> 04:59:53,616
receiving what they had been receiving. They were considered hold harmless.

4630
04:59:54,696 --> 04:59:57,656
And when we have a shortfall in the formula

4631
04:59:59,556 --> 05:00:03,076
What we have to do is dial down the state adequacy target,

4632
05:00:03,856 --> 05:00:07,776
7,145, to the number that fits the budget, in

4633
05:00:07,796 --> 05:00:11,276
this case, around 6,900. And that becomes the amount

4634
05:00:11,856 --> 05:00:13,796
that's the target for each kid to have behind them.

4635
05:00:15,216 --> 05:00:17,456
And then we start sending state formula money out.

4636
05:00:18,216 --> 05:00:22,166
We're required to pay the hold harmless schools their full amount first

4637
05:00:23,196 --> 05:00:26,116
because they've not been receiving additional from this formula.

4638
05:00:26,146 --> 05:00:27,876
And then the shortfall

4639
05:00:28,716 --> 05:00:32,646
ends up falling upon the formula-dependent schools more

4640
05:00:32,676 --> 05:00:33,005
heavily.

4641
05:00:33,865 --> 05:00:37,816
I don't know if that answered your question or not, but the schools I was at, one

4642
05:00:37,836 --> 05:00:40,996
district received about $3,300 per student from the formula.

4643
05:00:41,096 --> 05:00:45,056
One district, a poorer district, received about $4,400 per

4644
05:00:45,136 --> 05:00:46,876
kid. There's one district in the St.

4645
05:00:47,076 --> 05:00:50,776
Louis area that receives $584 per kid, and it's all

4646
05:00:50,856 --> 05:00:54,116
about the combination of what their community can

4647
05:00:54,136 --> 05:00:58,116
provide in local property tax revenue because the

4648
05:00:58,216 --> 05:01:02,116
values of their property is in their tax rate, and what it takes to get

4649
05:01:02,176 --> 05:01:02,816
to the SAT.

4650
05:01:04,276 --> 05:01:05,016
Thank you.

4651
05:01:07,956 --> 05:01:08,676
Any other questions?

4652
05:01:09,916 --> 05:01:13,876
Okay. We'll be working on the formula on the budget, and we will try to

4653
05:01:13,916 --> 05:01:16,556
keep you as well informed as we can. But I thank you for your time and attention.

4654
05:01:17,426 --> 05:01:17,736
Thank you.

4655
05:01:17,816 --> 05:01:18,136
Thank you.

4656
05:01:23,316 --> 05:01:27,016
Very well. So at this time, we have the commissioner search

4657
05:01:27,076 --> 05:01:28,716
update with Ms. Casey.

4658
05:01:31,416 --> 05:01:35,396
Thank you, President Miller. I have a brief update

4659
05:01:35,476 --> 05:01:37,476
today to share with the board,

4660
05:01:38,536 --> 05:01:41,896
that with the completion of the interim commissioner being

4661
05:01:42,856 --> 05:01:46,486
now on board, the state board is focused on conducting a national

4662
05:01:46,616 --> 05:01:50,216
search for a commissioner. And we are working with internal teams

4663
05:01:50,276 --> 05:01:53,916
between HR, procurement, and OA to sort through what is the

4664
05:01:53,956 --> 05:01:56,455
process that we're required to follow.

4665
05:01:56,896 --> 05:02:00,676
We're identifying potential search firms, and we'll be

4666
05:02:00,756 --> 05:02:04,056
doing an evaluation of those firms to determine the best.

4667
05:02:05,296 --> 05:02:09,256
This search process will involve ultimately working with a national

4668
05:02:09,395 --> 05:02:11,216
search firm, and

4669
05:02:11,316 --> 05:02:15,076
we're

4670
05:02:15,116 --> 05:02:18,796
working on this regularly, and we'll continue to provide updates in future board

4671
05:02:18,856 --> 05:02:19,296
meetings.

4672
05:02:20,596 --> 05:02:20,996
Okay.

4673
05:02:21,056 --> 05:02:21,786
That's it. Thank you.

4674
05:02:21,786 --> 05:02:23,396
Any questions for Ms. Casey?

4675
05:02:25,736 --> 05:02:26,456
Hearing none.

4676
05:02:27,836 --> 05:02:29,856
Mr. Otto had a request.

4677
05:02:30,196 --> 05:02:33,296
Yeah, I just had one comment before we go into closed session.

4678
05:02:33,436 --> 05:02:36,465
I know that Commissioner

4679
05:02:36,676 --> 05:02:38,396
Westbrooks-Hodge's term ends

4680
05:02:39,336 --> 05:02:43,256
June 30th, and so I don't know if this is your last meeting or not, but I

4681
05:02:43,296 --> 05:02:46,696
wanted to recognize and thank you for your service while you're

4682
05:02:46,756 --> 05:02:50,456
here, just in case you weren't here at a future meeting. Thank you. Thank you.

4683
05:02:50,576 --> 05:02:50,976
Thanks.

4684
05:02:52,056 --> 05:02:55,876
Kind of a relatively awkward situation, and so please-

4685
05:02:57,096 --> 05:02:58,316
But I wanted to make sure that you-

4686
05:02:58,816 --> 05:03:00,496
We're not trying to push you out the door

4687
05:03:02,236 --> 05:03:06,066
by any means. Yeah. But hopefully, we'll get that resolved

4688
05:03:06,176 --> 05:03:07,136
relatively soon.

4689
05:03:08,216 --> 05:03:10,016
But you are very much appreciated.

4690
05:03:10,436 --> 05:03:10,796
Thank you.

4691
05:03:11,136 --> 05:03:11,876
Certainly.

4692
05:03:12,336 --> 05:03:12,796
Thank you both.

4693
05:03:13,376 --> 05:03:16,816
At this time, we need to move into closed session.

4694
05:03:17,396 --> 05:03:21,236
All right. I move that the State Board of Education go into closed session

4695
05:03:21,316 --> 05:03:25,176
as posted by the executive assistant to consider the following:

4696
05:03:25,236 --> 05:03:29,016
legal actions, causes of action, litigation, or legal work product relating

4697
05:03:29,136 --> 05:03:32,556
to the State Board of Education and the Department of Elementary and Secondary

4698
05:03:32,636 --> 05:03:36,476
Education, as well as any confidential or privileged communications

4699
05:03:36,496 --> 05:03:38,516
between those entities and legal counsel.

4700
05:03:39,716 --> 05:03:43,025
Two, individually identifiable personnel records,

4701
05:03:43,076 --> 05:03:46,756
performance ratings, or records pertaining to employees or applicants for

4702
05:03:46,796 --> 05:03:50,715
employment. And three, criminal records imposed by law.

4703
05:03:51,176 --> 05:03:51,536
Second.

4704
05:03:53,256 --> 05:03:54,656
All those in favor of closed session?

4705
05:03:54,776 --> 05:03:55,756
We have to do a roll call of this.

4706
05:03:55,856 --> 05:03:55,916
Okay.

4707
05:03:57,576 --> 05:03:58,316
Mr. Bradberry?

4708
05:03:59,996 --> 05:04:00,236
Yes.

4709
05:04:00,576 --> 05:04:01,046
Ms. Casey?

4710
05:04:01,416 --> 05:04:01,736
Yes.

4711
05:04:01,876 --> 05:04:02,716
Mr. Matusik?

4712
05:04:03,036 --> 05:04:03,336
Yes.

4713
05:04:03,496 --> 05:04:04,216
Mr. Myers?

4714
05:04:04,436 --> 05:04:05,036
Yes.

4715
05:04:05,076 --> 05:04:05,556
Mr. Otto?

4716
05:04:06,076 --> 05:04:06,266
Yes.

4717
05:04:06,476 --> 05:04:06,986
Dr. Scholl?

4718
05:04:07,336 --> 05:04:07,536
Yes.

4719
05:04:07,816 --> 05:04:08,716
Ms. Westbrooks-Hodge?

4720
05:04:08,976 --> 05:04:09,156
Yes.

4721
05:04:09,516 --> 05:04:10,156
President Miller?

4722
05:04:10,496 --> 05:04:10,776
Yes.

4723
05:04:12,196 --> 05:04:12,206
I

4724
05:04:14,096 --> 05:04:16,016
want a quick little point of order.

4725
05:04:20,716 --> 05:04:24,356
So I was kind of waiting for the

4726
05:04:24,416 --> 05:04:25,176
opportunity to

4727
05:04:27,616 --> 05:04:29,816
bring this up, but in our bylaws,

4728
05:04:30,816 --> 05:04:33,656
and it's sort of half joking, but half serious, too.

4729
05:04:35,156 --> 05:04:37,636
It says, "Voting. Votes by the board are taken by voice

4730
05:04:39,176 --> 05:04:41,256
unless a roll call vote is required by law.

4731
05:04:42,016 --> 05:04:45,276
When the vote is not unanimous, a roll call vote is taken in alphabetical order.

4732
05:04:46,816 --> 05:04:48,796
All action items before the board must be approved." So

4733
05:04:49,596 --> 05:04:50,776
it's the alphabetical thing.

4734
05:04:51,956 --> 05:04:52,496
I think, Brooks,

4735
05:04:53,456 --> 05:04:55,316
you go after me, not last.

4736
05:04:56,076 --> 05:04:58,176
I'm just like, "You're such a geek."

4737
05:05:01,776 --> 05:05:05,736
But for the new board members, I will say,

4738
05:05:05,836 --> 05:05:07,676
when we developed these bylaws,

4739
05:05:09,436 --> 05:05:13,026
because we didn't have any before, I think they were-