[0:00] 6 o'clock we'll go and get started with our meeting. I'd like to welcome [0:02] everybody here tonight u for our uh September meeting. Uh this year is going [0:08] by fast and there's not that many more meetings left in the year. So So let's [0:12] uh let's get started with a moment of silence. If we could please if you'll [0:15] please join me uh in a moment of silence. [0:26] » Amen. If you'll please stand with me and face the flag and join me in the pledge [0:30] of allegiance. [0:34] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the [0:40] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:46] justice for all. >> Thank you. [0:50] » First item uh is our conflict of interest statement. I want to ask Al if [0:54] he'll read that for us. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Pursuant to North Carolina [0:57] General Statutes and Town of Boxville Code of Ethics policy adopted November [1:02] 9, 2010, amended as of January 6, 2016, 2019, further endorsed on August 9, [1:09] 2022. I would ask each of you before you adopt the agenda if there are any actual [1:14] potential or perceived conflicts of interest with respect to any matter on [1:18] the proposed agenda which will come before the town board of commissioners [1:22] for consideration andor decision at this meeting. If so, please speak up and let [1:27] the board know at this time before the agenda is adopted. [clears throat] [1:31] » Anything not and we'll move on to our next item which is the adoption of [1:36] tonight's agenda. Lee, I think you have something to announce on. [1:39] » Thank you, Mayor. Um I would uh ask that the uh commissioners look at item 6A um [1:46] which is a public hearing for proposed incentives to alum. Um we we have been [1:52] informed uh that alumor has not come uh to terms on their commitment to the [1:58] number of jobs per our economic incentives policy. Uh Davy County has [2:03] taken this off of their agenda for their meeting tonight. I'm asking you to amend [2:08] the agenda that we do not have a public hearing on item 6A. [2:13] Anything else to be added or deleted on the agenda for tonight? [2:17] Not then we need a motion to adopt the agenda with the deletion of the first [2:21] public hearing. >> Make a motion. [2:23] » We have a motion from Jenny and a second from Johnny. All those in favor say I. [2:27] » Any opposed? That passes. Uh the next item on our agenda is our item number [2:33] four, communications from boards, commissions, and agencies. We do have a [2:36] special um presentation tonight and uh it's one of those bittersweet moments [2:41] that we have in the town of Moxville. Um Rob Taylor who who has sat in this seat [2:46] for as long as we've had this table, but before that he was sitting around the [2:49] round table and he has he has served Moxville for 14 years and and I know [2:55] that uh we we've had board members come and go, but Rob has has done an [2:59] excellent job as far as uh adding uh to our to our governance here in Moxel. And [3:05] uh there was lots lots of times during this process over the last 14 years [3:08] where he could u he could put to words things that nobody else could in a way [3:13] that only he could do it. And I really appreciate his his guidance and [3:16] leadership. So tonight we do have a special presentation for Rob. A couple [3:19] of different things. U Rob I'm going to ask if you'll come stand up here at the [3:23] front. [3:31] We don't we don't present this very often and and that's for a good reason [3:35] because um because it's we we want it to be very special and I think this has [3:41] only happened a few times since I've been mayor and that's been a long long [3:44] time but um but we're going to present Rob with a key to the city and it's also [3:49] got a picture of the current board on there. [3:52] So Rob Rob has Rob has been here with lots of different board members [3:56] throughout the years. Uh this is the current board and the current key to the [3:59] city. Uh I told somebody the other day that if the uh town ever locks the keys [4:03] in the city that then they can call Rob and he [laughter] [4:08] and we also have one other special item. I'm going let you open this. This is [4:11] from the town. Uh >> oh. [4:19] [laughter] >> She just asked me what what they did [4:22] with it. So, they probably threw it in the [4:25] garbage when I walked out last time. But that's awesome. I will I will cherish [4:29] that forever. And I just appreciate everyone. My time here on the town was [4:33] um interesting at times as it can be uh and trying to govern a small town. But [4:39] uh it was always hopeful. It was always full of a lot of hardworking people [4:44] especially our our department heads, all of our department individuals, all the [4:49] people who've come and gone. Le and I are going out together almost around the [4:53] same time. Uh but you have a fantastic board staying here and I look forward to [4:57] hearing great things from you. We wish you the best of luck in your ne next [5:00] endeavor as RDA. So [clears throat] >> congratulations. [5:04] » Thank you very much guys. Thank you. [applause] [5:12] [applause] [5:19] » Congratulations. Thank you. [5:28] Thank you, sir. >> Just take care of that. [5:37] » So, we do have uh we do have a couple of other presentations tonight. First of [5:41] all, uh before we get to uh some proclamations, I'm going to ask Mike [5:45] Boutier with the Davy County Sheriff's Office. He's going to make a [5:47] presentation about our traffic model. [5:54] » We just do this up here. Either way, >> because the way the seats are angled, I [5:58] really don't want to make it where you have to [6:00] » Okay. >> turn your head the whole time. So, I do [6:04] all all of the radar trailers you see everywhere, but I also do covert. So, [6:12] people don't know that I'm checking roadways. So, I'm the guy that everybody [6:17] calls and goes, "Hey, everybody's speeding." Everybody, doesn't matter who [6:19] it is, everybody on my road right now has just went by my house at 75 miles an [6:24] hour. That's what I hear most of the time. So, the reason I am going to [6:28] explain this before I give you stats is I want you to know that when I pull [6:33] stats on a radar trailer, most people don't realize [6:38] that it's a full breakdown. And when I say a full breakdown, it's every single [6:42] vehicle going either direction. So, even if you see the sign and you see your [6:47] that's my speed, the guy going the other way is also being clocked. So, it's [6:52] both. So, I can tell you the time of day your car went by. I can tell you how [6:56] fast you were going. I can tell you when traffic is busier, when it's not. I can [7:02] tell you the stats to the 85th percentile of who's doing most speeding. [7:08] I have put trailers out in people's yards before [7:11] to where they say, "Hey, I had to put this trailer here because the speed is [7:15] just outrageous in my neighborhood." So, I set the trailer up. [7:19] I wait. I activate it. I tell them just hang tight a minute while they're in [7:24] their front yard. Here comes a car. I say, "Hey, do me a favor. How fast do [7:28] you think that car is going?" They always look at me always and say 56, 58 [7:33] miles an hour right now. And I don't even turn my head and I say, "Will you [7:39] look at the display on my trailer?" And they do. And the average is 32 to 36. [7:45] It's because it's a misconception when you're standing still, speed coming [7:48] towards you. And unless you're trained to know how to do it, it seems like when [7:52] that car goes by or that truck goes by, especially if it's a truck and the wind [7:56] blows my hair everywhere. Blows my hair everywhere. So, I figure, hey, he had to [8:00] be running 70. But it's a lot of misconceptions and that's kind of why [8:05] I'm here. So, I've been running a ton of radar in Mogville. You see, I've now put [8:09] up permanent ones. I have the library. I have the one in downtown now. [8:14] I also did a covert on by Sterling Drive on Country Lane because I kept hearing [8:19] everybody country lane is horrible. Oh my god. I have had to rethink things a [8:23] lot because I lived in Atlanta 16 and a half years. So there is no traffic here [8:27] to me. There's no speeding [clears throat] here to me. There's no [8:31] crime here to me. It's a wonderful place. I wouldn't I'm not going to [8:35] complain at all ever. I don't care how many people I've arrested. I have no [8:37] complaints about anything in the entire county compared to where I used to be. [8:42] So, this is just some stats I want you to really pay attention. The radar mount [8:48] at the courthouse, the one in the square, I ran it from March the 3 to [8:55] June the 4th. That is only three months. Three [9:01] 388,850 vehicles. [9:05] Most people when I say that, they go, "That's impossible." No, it's not. If [9:10] that had been in downtown Atlanta, that would have been 25 million vehicles. [9:14] There's the difference. So, when you think of it that way, then oh yeah, [9:16] okay, it's not that bad. Um, the vehicles in over posted speed limit by 8 [9:23] miles an hour or above. And the reason I say 8 miles an hour or above, because [9:27] people get mad is we pull you over at 1 mile an hour over. [9:31] » Oh my god, he pulled me over for 1 mile an hour over. I don't do that. I drive [9:34] when I'm off work and I know how fast I really drive when I'm off work. So, I'm [9:37] a hypocrite if I pull you over for 1 mile an hour over. The average speed was [9:42] 22 miles an hour in a 20. 49% of people were speeding, but 3% of them were over [9:49] 8 miles an hour over. 3% out of that, which made it 10,139 vehicles over 8 mph [9:56] above the speed limit. It's a very minute amount. uh the fixed radar at the [10:02] library that everybody loves so much to see their speed coming in and going from [10:08] March I mean from February the 10th to June the 8th. So that's four months [10:14] 882,921 vehicles. That's both directions. Keep [10:20] that in mind. both directions. [clears throat] Vehicles over posted [10:22] speed limit 10 mph above it were 5,13 out of 882,000. [10:31] 513 were 10 miles an hour above. The average [10:35] speed is 32. 30% of people are speeding, but 0.006% [10:40] were 10 m an hour or above. Once again, everybody tells me, "Oh my god, they're [10:46] speeding everywhere." So, I did Salsbury Street because [10:50] everybody, oh, when the from South Davy beyond, those people are gunning it. [10:53] They're just uh, you know, you need to set up traps. Well, if we set up mark [10:59] units, who drives fast? There's, oh, there's a marked car. Uh, I can't even [11:03] hardly get down the road sometimes when I have somebody in front of me and they [11:06] see me behind them in my marked vehicle and they're driving like 45 and a 55 [11:10] because they think I want to pull them over. I don't. um at 462 South Salsbury [11:16] Street from June the 8th to July the 7th, one month. And think of it this, [11:23] this is out of school time. So it's 68 to 77, 59,42 [11:28] vehicles. Vehicles in overposted speed by over 6 miles an hour were 3,886. [11:35] Out of 59,000, the average speed is 37. It's a 35. 28% were speeding, but 0.065% [11:43] were over 6 miles an hour over. It's really that minute. I put it outside of [11:49] the city of Moxville, I put tons of them, uh, Bailey's Chapel Road and over [11:55] by Davy Medical Center, you know, there, that's the worst speeding in the entire [11:59] county by Davy Medical Center. And everybody knows if you're up that way, [12:03] you come out of a 50, boom, you're in a 35. You come off the interstate, when [12:07] you come around the exit ramp, you're in a 35. But you just got through used to [12:11] cruising around at 70 mph down the interstate and you've just hit a 35. It [12:15] is what it is. People that want to discuss traffic [12:19] delays on Yakinville Road, which is the most complained I have, except for the [12:24] three-way stop sign, which I'm not going to discuss that. None of us had anything [12:28] to do with that, so it is what it is. [laughter] [12:32] » Lee, nobody had anything. Anyway, um the average, and this study was done by me, [12:38] so this is not official, but I did it because I got tired of everybody telling [12:41] me the reason I pulled you over is you're speeding. Where are you in a [12:44] hurry to go to? Well, this line of traffic is horrible, and I always take [12:47] them everywhere to get home. During morning commute, you have a 7 to 12 [12:51] minute delay from one end to the other. That's from [12:54] in town to Walmart, but it feels like an hour. Took me two hours every day to go [13:01] home in Atlanta. though. >> Okay. Um, during lunchtime traffic, [13:06] which is pretty horrible for here, 7 to 14 minute delay of steady traffic. Gina [13:12] brought up a good point. Getting out of your like turnouts, that's where the [13:16] problem is because you can't get out. People just need to be more courteous [13:20] and go, "Hey, come on out." That's what really needs to happen. Um, and the last [13:23] thing is I did the Sterling Drive one, but I did it last year, but I figured [13:27] I'd give you these stats anyway because near Sterling Drive on Country Lane, [13:30] I've been blown up about it. People keep coming to me about it. So from July 23rd [13:36] to October 2nd of 2025, there were 275,855 [13:42] vehicles. There were 67,236 in oversp speed range. Anything over the [13:48] 45 mark, right? The average speed though was 49. The over speed range was 24%. [13:55] The vehicles over five miles an hour over of speed limit were 20,389 [14:03] out of 275,000 which gives you a 00739% [14:08] 5 mph over. So if anybody does need me to do a study, I'm more than happy to do [14:15] it. I can do it covert or I can do it where you have a sign like the trailers [14:18] you see where you see the the sign it says, "Hey, you're doing whatever." I [14:23] can even set it where it says slow down. doesn't do any good, but I can tell you [14:26] that. And there's some people that play speed games with these. They want to see [14:31] how fast they can get on my sign. >> So, that's pretty much everything I [14:36] have. Does anybody have any questions before I sit down or does that pretty [14:39] much put out there what people were asking about speaking? I [14:44] » think [clears throat] any questions from the [14:46] commissioners? No. >> Okay. Thank you, Mike. Is that clear? [14:49] » All right. We appreciate you doing that. >> Thank you. Thank you. We'll [14:52] » get a ra [14:56] So the next thing on our agenda is a proclamation for Smart Start Month. And [15:00] we do have our executive director of Smart Start here, Gina Taylor, who's [15:03] Rob's wife. Um, so Gina, we are we actually we've got an official [15:08] proclamation I'm going to read. This is the same proclamation that Josh Stein is [15:12] reading and they're reading over at the um at the county commissioner meeting. [15:17] So, um, whereas the nationally recognized Smart Start Network has [15:21] worked to ensure all young children enter school healthy and prepared for [15:24] success throughout North Carolina for more than 30 years. And whereas the [15:28] first five years of life are critical windows of development shaping a child's [15:32] brain architecture and building the foundation for future cognitive, social, [15:35] emotional, behavioral, and health outcomes. And whereas high quality [15:39] birthto five strategies and programs focusing on early education, health and [15:44] well-being, and family support create better K12 and mo and post-secondary [15:49] educational opportunities for students and a more skilled workforce for [15:52] employers. Whereas the Smart Start Network supports quality early care and [15:57] education, preventive health services and family support for children from [16:01] birth to 5 years old. And the Smart Start Network has a proven track record [16:05] in improving early childhood education. I will mark and proclaim Smart Start [16:10] Month as in uh 2026 as this month. I know Carl's daughter works there, my [16:15] wife works there. We are all connected to Smart Start in so many ways, but our [16:18] kids are connected in even more ways. So, we appreciate all that you do for uh [16:23] for Davy County and Mox with Smart Start. I wish you the best of luck in [16:26] continuing to grow that organization and I hope hope uh for the best one for you. [16:31] Thank you. Is there anything you would like to say? [16:32] » Thank you for acknowledging Smart Start. Thank you. [16:37] Manager Rollins for serving on our board, our newest board member this [16:40] year. We have 17 members. Please visit our website. [16:45] » Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. [applause] [16:52] » Our next um proclamation is for family promise and we have Carllin Armsworthy [16:56] here that she's our VIP and dignitary here with Family Promise. We also have a [17:00] board member Jenny Stevenson who's on that board. I think part of being a town [17:05] board member sometimes means you're on other boards. So, thank you Jenny for [17:08] serving. Uh we do have a proclamation for family promise. Whereas in September [17:13] 2017, Family Promise of Davy County began operations dedicated to helping [17:17] the most vulnerable among us, children and families who are at risk or already [17:22] experiencing homelessness. Whereas Family Promise of Davy County provides [17:26] homeless prevention, homelessness prevention, shelter diversion, temporary [17:30] shelter, transitional housing, and ongoing stabilization support, thereby [17:35] making a real difference in the lives of local families. Whereas believing that [17:39] every child deserves a home, family promise of Davy County and its numerous [17:43] partner congregations and volunteers empower families in making their [17:46] transition from homelessness to sustainable independence. Whereas over [17:50] the past nine years, Family Promise has served over 700 families, more than 1300 [17:55] children, 90% of which are still stably housed one year after receiving [18:00] services. Now, therefore, I will Mark, mayor of the town of Mosel, do hereby [18:04] proclaim the week of October 5th through the 9th as Family Promise Week. Uh Carl, [18:09] would you like to say anything? I will echo Gina and say thank you for [18:14] recognizing family promise and the work that our board and the volunteers of the [18:18] organization do. We are happy to be one of the many wonderful nonprofits [18:24] and services. Thank thank you for being here tonight. We appreciate all you do. [18:30] [applause] [18:34] Finally, I do have one uh one other proclamation. As you well know, this [18:38] week we have September 11th Day of Remembrance. Thomas Shoemaker with our [18:43] fire department is here representing the fire department in our day of [18:46] remembrance 25th anniversary. Whereas in an unprovoked and senseless act of [18:52] terrorism, four civilian aircraft were hijacked on September 11th, 2001 and [18:57] crashed in the New York City, Pennsylvania and Pentagon, resulting in [19:00] a momentous loss of innocent US lives of all heritages. And whereas while we [19:07] still continue to recover from the loss of innocent lives, the spirit of the US [19:11] has been revitalized, giving way to expressions of patriotism. And whereas [19:15] inspired by the heroism of our nation's public service personnel, military [19:19] service members, and countless volunteers, our nation found unity and [19:23] strength. Whereas from the tragedy of tragedy of September 11th emerged a [19:28] stronger nation renewed by the spirit of national pride and a true love of [19:32] country. Whereas Americans also have fought back against terror by choosing [19:36] to overcome evil with good by loving their neighbors as they would like to be [19:41] loved, contributing to relief efforts and volunteering their time to aid to [19:45] those in need. Now therefore, be it resolved that we, the board of [19:48] commissioners of the town of Moxel, do hereby proclaim September 11th, 2026 as [19:53] the 25th anniversary of the attacks of 911 and also the 911 national day of [19:58] service and remembrance in the town of Moxel and urge our citizens to recognize [20:02] the heroism of firefighters, rescue and law enforcement personnel, military [20:07] service members, and the many volunteers who responded to these tragic events [20:11] with courage, selfless compassion, determination, and skill. and to [20:15] remember the victims and innocent lives lost as a result of the tragic events on [20:19] September 11th, 2000. Is there anything you would like to say, Thomas? Okay. [20:24] Thank you for being here today. We uh I know that this is a tough time in our [20:28] moment in our country's history, but uh but I think that it's something that we [20:32] can recognize and we don't want to let future generations forget the u [20:36] sacrifices that were made. So, thank you for being here. [20:40] [applause] [20:44] biblical proclamations needing to be read. I will move on to our citizen [20:47] comments. Um we've got three citizens that have signed up to speak tonight. [20:51] I'll ask that uh when I call upon you if you'll step to the podium. You'll have [20:55] three minutes to speak. Lynn, who is right back here, she will you guys are [20:59] free to stay or leave if y'all would like. I know y'all got things you can [21:02] do. Uh but you're more than welcome to stay or leave. Uh thank you for being [21:06] here. Thanks, Rob. >> Thanks, Carlin. [21:10] Thank you, sir. >> Um, so you'll have three minutes to [21:13] speak. Lynn will be your timekeeper. If you would please adhere to our three [21:17] minutes so we can continue on with our meeting. Uh, I'm going to ask Jeff Plot [21:20] if he would come up and and lead us off. [21:27] » All right. Uh, Mayor Marklin, members of the board of commissioners, I'm here [21:32] tonight on behalf of the residents who live, work, and raise our families here [21:35] in the town of Moxville. We are watching what is happening across Davy County and [21:39] we're deeply concerned by the lack of leadership coming from this board [21:42] regarding data center developments. While our county leaders had the sense [21:46] and courage to enact a moratorum to protect our community, the town of [21:49] Moxville continues to hide behind talks of zoning loopholes and bureaucratic [21:53] limitations. Let's be clear about what you are opening up the door to. Massive [21:58] industrial data centers consume millions of gallons of critical water supply, [22:02] putting an unsustainable strain on our local power grid and shatter our [22:06] peaceful neighborhoods with non-stop industrial noise and pollution. In [22:10] exchange, our community gets virtually no permanent jobs, plummeting [22:14] residential uh property values and long-term harm to the health and [22:17] well-being of the people not only in the town of Mosville, but also those who [22:21] live out in the county of Davy as well. When you sit quietly and while potential [22:26] developers target our town, it sends a message that you are that you value [22:30] corporate revenue over the citizens who elected you. Taking a passive stance is [22:35] not neutral. It is a choice to sell out the future of the town of Moxville as [22:40] well as the people of the town of Moxville. We are not asking you to [22:43] rubber stamp whatever proposal lands on your desk. We are demanding [22:49] that you use every ounce of your authority to protect the community, [22:52] close the zoning gaps, put the brakes on heavy industrial encroachment, and [22:57] prioritize our health, our resources, and our quality of life. Mayor Marklin, [23:01] commissioners, you are you were elected to represent us. We the people, not some [23:07] big heavy industrial server farms. We elected you to protect our land, our [23:12] water, and our future. Stand with the people who elected you. The residents of [23:16] town of Mox are paying attention and we will not forget who stood up to protect [23:21] our town and who looked the other way when it mattered most come election day. [23:25] Thank you. >> Thank you, Jeff. Next on our list is [23:29] Silus Johnson. [23:38] [clears throat] [23:41] Good evening, Mayor Marklin, honorable commissioners. My name is Silus Johnson. [23:45] I'm a junior at Davyy and I'm a member of Davy's JCPC and also of [23:49] Superintendent Mo Green's advisory council. And I'm here today to talk [23:53] about the same topic of data centers. I know firsthand that we've all heard the [23:57] concerns about water, electricity, noise, and environmental concerns [24:01] regarding data center development. And I'm not here to discount any of those [24:04] concerns because I personally hold them all. But I would like to come at the uh [24:08] the topic from a little bit of a different angle. Now, the general [24:12] statutes describe a municipality as an entity organized for the better [24:16] government of the people within its jurisdictions. And everyone in this [24:19] room, we are all Americans who just celebrated our 250th anniversary. And we [24:23] all know that the Constitution of our own state says that our people have the [24:26] inherent sole and exclusive right to alter their government. I've lived in [24:31] Moxville my whole life, which looking around the room is not as much of a brag [24:34] as I expected it to be. Uh, but I think our town is a great example of [24:39] the values of self-government and being involved and making change in your own [24:44] community. And [clears throat] state law and federal law and really [24:49] just common sense are very clear that we elect office holders with the intent of [24:53] representation. Now, of course, I did not vote in the [24:58] last election. I'll be voting in the next election in 2028. Uh, but my peers [25:01] parents voted for you. My parents voted for you. members of the community voted [25:06] for you and Moxville is a small town about six,000 people I think uh and [25:12] everyone more or less knows pretty much everyone from what I have seen and the [25:16] result of that is that everyone also knows what everyone thinks and to [25:19] continue this discussion of democracy and of the values which are foundational [25:23] to every type of representative government in our nation I couldn't name [25:27] really a single person I've spoken to who supports data center development in [25:32] our county and much less in the town of Moxville. Now, in June, dozens of people [25:36] gathered at the library to speak out against data center development. Uh last [25:41] month, we also had or pardon me, in June, the county commissioners meeting [25:46] was held at Davy High because so many people were interested in coming and [25:49] speaking in support of a moratorum. And I'm honored to live in a county whose [25:53] government is that receptive to what its residents are asking for. Everything [25:58] I've heard about the Monsville Board of Commissioners has made me come to the [26:01] same conclusion over the past several years. And I'm just here to express my [26:05] sincere hope that that continues and that we are able to put that faith and [26:09] that amount of trust in our local government. And I would like to close [26:14] with a message from a good friend of mine, Piper Schilling, who also attends [26:17] Davy High, but she couldn't come tonight because she had the flu. And she said, [26:21] "I have grown up around Davy County since I was four. I've eaten at Millers, [26:24] gone to Davy High, walked around River Park, golfed at Oak Valley, loitered in [26:28] downtown Moxville, and done a whole tour to Davyy. I am proud to be a Moxville [26:32] resident, and because of this, I only want the best for Moxville. I do not [26:35] believe the data center will bring any real value to the town, and I think [26:38] you'd be hardressed to find anything close to a majority that doesn't feel [26:41] that way. Thank you. >> Thank you, Sal. [26:45] Our next speaker is Hal Mudrick. You [26:49] » want to follow that? >> That was good, young man. [26:55] So, you heard everything Jeff said and you heard everything this gentleman [26:59] said. Um, I asked myself, why? Why do we need a data center? And [27:08] I'm not going to go through the pros and cons. Last time I spoke, I think it was [27:13] about a month ago, I offered my services. I have personally [27:18] um designed and built data centers. So, I've got experience on what it takes to [27:23] do something like that. And I'll offer my services again here if you've got [27:28] activities going on that I can participate and ask the tough questions. [27:36] So, there's probably data center stuff going [27:40] on. We've got across the way we've got discussions going on about Duke Power. [27:46] You don't build a data center, you don't need Duke Power. you don't need that [27:50] plane. Um, if you don't use AI, you don't need this data center. I don't [27:56] know how many of you have used AI. Um, AI is telling you how to do things [28:04] better because it thinks you need to know how it do how to do it better. Um, [28:10] last time I checked on opening the refrigerator or using the toilet, I'm [28:15] pretty sure I don't need AI to tell me how to do it better. So [28:23] why not put why not consider a moratorum? Why not put ordinances in [28:29] place that as the gentleman said talk about electricity? [28:35] How are we going to control the rates around here in electricity? Who's going [28:38] to pay for it? Yeah, you're going to get millions of dollars back, but I don't [28:42] know if you've checked on what it cost to build out a data center. $50 million [28:47] is nothing. Um I saw Duke Power offering I think the total package was [28:54] $100,000$25,000 for a park river replenishment. There's [28:59] not going to be a river if this stuff goes in. So, back to my point, why not [29:04] put ordinances in place to control electricity, to control zoning, to [29:10] control water replenishment, to control noise letter uh noises? [29:17] Why not consider that stuff? Why are you guys not being transparent with us? [29:23] Really, what do you what do you got to lose? As you heard Jeff and this [29:27] gentleman say, we put you in office. we voted you in office because we want you [29:31] to do the job for us, right? So, I'm just I'm just asking respectfully, [29:36] think about putting some barriers up. If it's going to happen, okay, it's going [29:42] to happen, but why not why not let us control how it happens? Right now, it's [29:48] a toy. It's a a candy shop. They're going to come in here and they're going [29:52] to tell you what they're going to do and they're going to make you pro promises. [29:56] Go ahead, put some barriers in place. that that would be the great thing to [30:00] do. >> Thanks for Thank you. Uh I know Mr. [30:04] Brown, you didn't make the uh the list. Did you want to say anything? I know [30:07] sometimes you like to speak. Okay. Thank you. Any other folks that want to speak [30:11] for public comment? If not, then we'll close out the public comment section of [30:15] our meeting and we'll move right on to uh our first public hearing. Uh we have [30:22] a public hearing uh adopting the town of Mosul comprehensive plan. I'm going to [30:25] let Lee uh introduce that. Thank you, [clears throat] mayor. I'm happy to have [30:29] uh Jason Eley here to just make a brief presentation to you. Um I think we're at [30:34] the culmination for you to uh uh consider uh after uh this public hearing [30:42] uh to uh adopt the comprehensive plan. It's hard to believe this process [30:46] started in May of last year. Um so, um lot of lot of public input [30:52] sessions. I don't want to steal Jason's thunder. I'll let him go ahead and come [30:56] up and and just provide a brief overview for you before you have the [31:00] [clears throat] public hearing. [snorts] [31:08] » All right, mayor, members of the board, it's [31:11] pleasure to be back and um sorry I did not ask the officer earlier. I saw a [31:15] bunch of guys with baseball gloves, you know, his radars that he had set up. I [31:18] don't know how >> Yeah. throwing pitches [31:20] » and [laughter] I wanted to ask him if that would make a [31:22] difference, but oh well. have to wait till next time. Uh, as Lee was saying, [31:27] this has been a 12-monthlong process uh led by the planning board uh that we've [31:32] worked with as the oversight for both the comprehensive plan and the downtown [31:36] master plan. Uh the downtown Moxville Collaborative was engaged during the [31:40] process to provide additional guidance specific uh to the downtown master plan. [31:45] Uh we had uh public participation through survey meetings uh and [31:50] workshops. We heard from just over a thousand people that were engaged during [31:54] the process. A little over 600 people uh participated in the survey. Um you can [32:00] see that so on and so forth. We had about a hundred that participated in [32:03] downtown workshops. Uh we had approximately 30 folks [clears throat] [32:07] that came to the public input meetings uh on the drafts back in April. [32:13] to start off with the goals for the downtown plan. I know you've heard this [32:16] before, but just want to reiterate those you as we're, you know, getting near the [32:19] end of the process here and culmination uh potentially with adoption tonight. [32:23] You know, maintain downtown as the heart of community. That's something we heard [32:27] throughout the process throughout the community surveys uh which is why you're [32:31] working on the now master plan. uh prioritize compact growth over sprawling [32:36] expansion. And that's really about utilizing the uh existing uh services [32:42] and infrastructure that you have close into town versus, you know, sprawling [32:46] out. And you'll see some of these repeated uh and expanded upon in the [32:51] comprehensive plan as well. Create streets that put people first. I had a [32:55] discussion with someone before the meeting how DOT is finally starting to [32:59] think about roads as more than just moving vehicles. uh starting to think [33:02] about roads for you know alternative modes, sidewalks, bicycles uh and and [33:08] the downtown is looking at streets as uh entertainment venues. You know those get [33:12] closed for events and special events uh and things like that. So streets are [33:16] more than just moving cars. Uh they've become uh places especially in downtowns [33:21] where people can gather uh you know for things like that. make strategic public [33:26] investments. Uh you know, as you look at making improvements, make sure those are [33:31] leveraging uh private investment uh and making sure that your investment goes a [33:37] long way. That's not just something that will fade away. Uh but to make sure that [33:41] you know when you do make a public investment in street lights and [33:45] utilities and infrastructure, make sure it's going to get get you that return. [33:49] Um facilitate high quality and attractive [33:53] development. Uh you on the left uh is a vacant lot. It used to be old gas [33:57] station in downtown Salsbury. And then the image on the right is what was built [34:01] after you know downtown Salsbury has historic district guidelines. Uh and [34:06] that's why the building on the right looks historic. Uh you know it helped [34:10] that the architects from Salsbury and has a heart. Uh but that's part of why [34:13] he invested in the town in the community. But those guidelines gave him [34:18] uh the guidance on how to construct the building. And there's several buildings [34:21] that have been done like this in downtown that have that historic look [34:25] and feel. It's obviously not historic, but it keeps that uh you know integrity [34:29] and that character of the downtown. In the downtown plan, there are over 80 [34:35] strategies uh that include implementation partners, planning level [34:38] cost estimates so you can make plans over the next, you know, one to five [34:42] years on how to move forward with the plan. Just to highlight some of those, [34:46] I'm going to go real quickly. Uh this is a building uh right here just a couple [34:51] blocks away uh where a mural can go a long way to helping make a difference. [34:56] This is one of those uh lowhanging fruit, easy to implement uh lowcost uh [35:02] projects that can be done within that first year or two of the downtown plan [35:05] uh being adopted. this a little bit more extensive, but building on that same [35:09] concept of creating great places for people to gather, uh, you know, [35:13] beautifying the space. And this, you'll see this word a lot, public, private, [35:17] uh, in downtowns. That's where you have the unique intersection more than you do [35:20] anywhere else in the community of lots of, you know, government agencies, [35:24] private property owners, all those things kind of join here uh, in the [35:28] downtown. So, you're going to see that need for public private partnerships uh, [35:32] throughout to make some of these things uh, happen. parking improvements. We did [35:36] look at, you know, places where on street parking could be expanded. We [35:40] found about 46 additional spaces that could be marked [35:45] for parking in the downtown. Uh bigger, longer term. Uh you know, we looked at [35:51] this at a previous meeting with you behind North Main and East Depot. Uh you [35:55] know, once again, that public private partnership idea. And this is not just [35:59] private property owners, [clears throat] but it's also uh you know public and it [36:03] serves a greater purpose for the entire community here in the downtown. So it's [36:07] an opportunity to create that uh and improve and add parking spaces in that [36:12] particular location. Ordinance improvements uh you know we've [36:16] heard a little bit about that as I showed you the image earlier. The way [36:19] you get there is having ordinances that address uh the character and how things [36:24] are built and developed. and you're in that process uh now or will be soon. I'm [36:29] not sure where you're at exactly with that uh moving forward, but I know [36:32] that's something that's a priority for the uh the town moving forward is [36:36] creating this new unified development ordinance that will address uh a lot of [36:40] the recommendations from the downtown plan and the comprehensive plan. Uh [36:44] gateways, we heard, you know, time and time again during the meetings, not just [36:48] gateways into downtown, but gateways uh you know, on the outskirts of town uh as [36:54] well. placemaking and streetscape. This is [36:57] here in the heart right here on the square. Uh this was kind of the big [37:01] picture vision. This is not something you'll do overnight. Uh this is [37:04] something that can be done with uh lowcost incremental steps, even painting [37:09] and restriping. You're already closing it sometimes for special events anyway. [37:13] So, it's an opportunity to explore some of these ideas without having to invest [37:18] on the front end with, oh, we're definitely going to put this in. you can [37:21] test these ideas before you actually move forward with it. Uh expanding [37:26] downtown, looking at the former Energy United site. Uh there's been a lot of [37:30] studies done on this uh with the UNCC school of government and during the [37:35] workshops we looked at this uh just to give you an idea of what that looks [37:39] like. Uh this is what it looks like today. uh and based on input and those [37:43] preliminary ideas, this is a vision, a concept of what this site, you know, [37:48] right behind us here could look like in the future, fully developed out. [37:54] So, the vision for the future, the town of Moxville will strive to preserve and [37:57] enhance our small town character and charm, sense of community, and high [38:01] quality of life through wellplanned growth that strengthens and complements [38:04] our community. And this is something the planning board worked on uh over a [38:08] course of several meetings earlier this year. [38:11] The goals that came out of the comprehensive plan, very similar uh as I [38:15] mentioned to the downtown plan, obviously strengthen and revitalize our [38:18] historic downtown as a carryover into the comprehensive plan. Promote [38:24] compatible in infield development. Once again, it's that same notion. It's like [38:28] grow where you have services, grow where you have infrastructure. Uh you don't [38:32] have to send, you know, two miles of, you know, water and sewer out somewhere [38:37] when it's right here. uh that can serve new development infill here in the the [38:42] heart of town. Uh develop a strong and authentic tourism economy. This is [38:46] building off uh some of the same concepts from the downtown plan, [38:50] activating an alley, creating this nice public space as you see here on the [38:53] right. But while you're doing it, also take advantage of that history that you [38:57] have. This is a, you know, potential Boone family statue that could be part [39:01] of a his history trail. Uh so when people come to town, they could visit [39:06] these different historical markers, learn about the history of the [39:09] community. Uh like with the murals, you could have a mural trail uh as well. So [39:14] there's lots of ways to leverage that uh to build your uh tourism economy as [39:19] well. This is something we heard a lot about throughout the meetings, uh [39:22] enhancing walkability and connectivity. Uh and I think you're seeing that as [39:27] you're putting together bits and pieces of sidewalks. You know, a lot of people [39:30] might see what's going on out the roundabout with the new sidewalks being. [39:34] It's like, well, where's that going? Well, it's it's part of putting that [39:37] network together, bridging those gaps and connecting uh to your existing [39:42] network so that you can walk. Um, and there's some places that don't have [39:45] sidewalks at all. Uh, and you know, following through with those plans. How [39:49] do we connect uh key destinations throughout the community? So, I think [39:52] that's something that came across through the public input uh and the [39:56] public meetings as well. make strategic investments in public [40:00] infrastructure and services. You've done that. You've had these great [40:03] partnerships with water and sewer. Uh and then moving ahead, continue to look [40:08] at that with your streets and working with DOT uh to make improvements as [40:12] well. Support sustained business and industry [40:15] growth. Uh this particular example on the screen is from the Pilgrim Sanford [40:19] agricultural marketplace. I think this is a really good example of, you know, [40:24] public private coming together. Again, uh this is not just a farmers market, [40:28] but it's also a commercial kitchen that serves uh people in the community that [40:33] want to start a restaurant, but maybe don't have the income to do it yet. Uh [40:38] so they want to try out grandma's cookies. They've had this recipe for [40:42] it's been passed down for hundreds of years. I don't know. And but you have to [40:46] have a commercial kitchen to package that and produce it. uh this gives you [40:50] that an entrepreneur that opportunity to start that business and maybe move into [40:54] a vacant storefront and start a new business uh here uh in Moxville. One [41:00] example I love to use is from the Norfick Portsmith area where we worked [41:04] with a maker space. Uh was a little bit different model than the agricultural [41:09] marketplace. But this young man started making candles in his garage, graduated [41:14] to this maker space and these candles were like [clears throat] [41:17] made out of different cereal cereal brands. So, you know, smelled like your [41:21] favorite cereal whether it's Frosted Flakes or whatever. and he now has a, [41:25] you know, almost a $2 million business in a building that employs about 10 [41:29] people in downtown now. So, that's a [clears throat] it's a neat idea. You [41:34] know, we invest money, like I said earlier, in extending water and sewer [41:38] lines out, but investing money in small business infrastructure can help create [41:42] that next entrepreneur and business here in your community. [41:47] How we'll grow the future land use map. And really this map reinforces that idea [41:51] of promoting infield development uh that's compatible with the surroundings [41:55] directing industry where roads and infrastructure can accommodate it. Uh [41:59] you know where do you have those utilities in place to support it? Where [42:02] are they being planned? Where are they being put in now? Uh can the roads [42:06] support it? Expand the downtown boundary. Uh and we've done that. We've [42:10] looked at areas where the downtown can grow. And then this overall idea of [42:14] transitioning from uh what you have a typical zoning now, but looking at, you [42:19] know, more formbbased designed uh you know, type of development to make sure [42:23] that it's not just meeting certain uses, but that it's being placed on the [42:28] property in the the right way. Uh that you've got, you addressing connectivity [42:33] with other development, connectivity with sidewalks. uh making sure that [42:37] you're thinking about more than just the use, but you're thinking about things [42:40] like buffers, uh you know, trees, things like that. [42:46] And then with the uh same with the uh downtown plan, the comprehensive plan [42:49] also has uh strategies and objectives uh with priority time flame time frames uh [42:55] resources and partners to implement uh as well. [43:00] So, the next steps tonight, you know, consider adoption. Uh, you know, the [43:05] planning board recommended this to you all, uh, back at their August 13th [43:10] meeting, I believe it was. Uh, they recommended approval to you of both the [43:15] downtown master plan and the comprehensive plan. And then certainly, [43:19] you know, moving forward, implementation is a is an ongoing thing. Don't see this [43:24] as just, hey, we're going to put this on the shelf and be done with it. Uh [43:28] [clears throat] this is an opportunity to let the planning board bring issues [43:32] to you every year. Uh you know, as you're thinking about budget, as you're [43:35] thinking about other changes, uh you need to be looking at the comprehensive [43:39] plan, the downtown master plan. Uh is it tracking the way you want it to go? Are [43:43] there changes that need to be made? And that's good. You need to make changes. [43:47] It shouldn't be seen as something that's set in stone, but something that's a [43:51] framework and a guide to get you moving in the right direction. Uh and certainly [43:55] things are going to change. you know, you may receive funding for a particular [43:59] project that's in the plan that you just never dreamed would have happened. Uh, [44:03] you know, building a sidewalk, you know, one of these streets that we talked [44:06] about that doesn't have one. Uh, you know, maybe DOT comes to you one day and [44:10] you've got that partnership and you do it, you move forward with it. So, things [44:13] could change, time frames can change, and I just want to encourage you to [44:17] think about the plan as that framework and that guide, but that it can change [44:22] and it, you know, you should be looking at it every year. I'm not saying you [44:25] need to overhaul it every year, but you should be thinking about it. You should [44:29] be, you know, especially during budget time and every year as well. But I've [44:33] enjoyed working with everyone and be happy to answer any questions. [44:36] » Any questions from the board for Jason at this time? [44:41] » If not, then we're going to have a public hearing. Sure. [44:43] » And then we will we will move on. Uh uh first of all in the public hearing, this [44:48] is a chance for anybody that may have come tonight that wants to speak uh [44:51] about anything regarding the uh comprehensive plan. This is your time to [44:55] come up. You've got five minutes to step up to the podium and speak either for it [44:59] or against it. So if no one wants to speak on that, [45:04] then we'll close the public hearing and we'll go to the board. Board, you'll [45:07] notice on page 22 and 23 of your packet, there are two resolutions. one uh to [45:13] adopt the town of Mosville comprehensive plan and one to adopt the town of Mozel [45:17] downtown plan. U does anybody have any questions for Jason or for Lee so we can [45:22] move forward on on this item? >> If if I may just make a brief comment. [45:26] One, I I want to thank you uh commissioners for making uh a [45:31] significant investment in this. Uh you're required by state statute to have [45:35] a comprehensive plan. Uh but but I'm committed and and our team will be [45:40] committed to utilize this as our guide um as we work with you all on budget [45:46] process and prioritization to make these goals and these objectives [45:51] a reality. That's that's my commitment to you. [45:58] And I and one thing to go along with that, Lee, I know that you you brought [46:02] this to the table. Jason's worked hard on this that the all the volunteers, the [46:06] planning board, and the folks if you can just convey to them that the board's [46:09] thanks. I know we we kind of stayed away from it uh to let them do their work, [46:14] just convey uh the thanks to them once once you do reconvene at some point in [46:17] time and let them know. Uh >> we we'll do that and and folks with the [46:21] downtown Moxville uh collaborative. I don't want to put on the on the spot, [46:25] but she's very involved. Um, so we we've got a lot of great uh business folks and [46:31] residents that have been very involved in this process to sort of come to where [46:35] we are today. Thank you, Donnie. So, any questions from the board? [46:44] Okay. If not, then uh on page 22, you'll see [46:48] the resolution to adopt the town of Matzo comprehensive plan. I'll just [46:53] leave the motion as such. [46:58] Okay, we have a motion from Carl and a second from Johnny Fry. All those in [47:02] favor say I. I. >> Any opposed? [47:05] » And that resolution passes. Uh the next resolution is to consider resolution to [47:10] adopt the town of Moswood downtown plan which goes along with the uh [47:13] comprehensive plan and it's on page 23. >> Make a motion. [47:18] » We have a motion from Jenny. >> Second and [47:20] » a second from Justin. All those in favor say I. [47:23] » Any opposed? And that passes unanimously. Thank you so much for uh [47:27] for working on that and making this happen. Thank Thank you for uh bringing [47:31] this to us. Okay, we'll look forward to seeing what what comes of it. Okay. [47:37] » U next item on our agenda, we do have another public hearing, public hearing [47:41] to receive comments from the public concerning the submitt of a proposed [47:44] community development block ground. I'm ask Lee if he'll introduce. [47:47] » Thank you, Mayor. Um uh uh pleased we have uh Michael Waler, longtime [47:52] consultant uh with the town that has worked on uh many many CDBG uh grant [47:58] applications. So Michael, if you don't mind, just just go ahead and uh toss it [48:03] up to the uh commissioners for this uh SBA uh grant. [48:07] » Thank you, Lee. Mayor, board members, as as you're well aware, SBA Homes is [48:12] located at 134 Gil Gild Drive. And to date, they they've invested well over [48:17] $50 million in their manufacturing process. And they have 194 new jobs. [48:22] They had promised 76 new jobs in in two years, and they're at 194. They're [48:27] looking at a phase two project to expand their uh their company's manufacturing [48:32] capacity um to meet the production volumes of the company. uh they're [48:36] looking to invest machinery and equipment that's going to cost in excess [48:40] of $ 1.5 million and they're still saying they're going [48:43] to add an additional 26 jobs by the end of the year as a result of this phase [48:48] two. So they're asking the town to apply for this $750,000 CBG grant that will be [48:54] used to reimburse the company for machinery equipment. Okay. [48:57] » And let me answer any questions you might have. [48:59] » Any questions for Michael? I I might just add uh mayor, thank you for being [49:04] part of uh meetings. We've had the assistant secretary of commerce and the [49:10] state director for uh CDBG program in Moxville and toward SBA home. Um so, you [49:17] know, it's just a great opportunity to to utilize the funding available u for [49:21] for their continued growth and and I will just say having toured that [49:26] facility from at the beginning of this process and more recently, it is [49:30] amazing. and the robotics in there is something that the whole board should uh [49:34] we need to do a field trip and go see what's going on there because I I never [49:37] thought I would see anything like that in Moxel. So, it it is amazing and [49:41] they're wanting to add to it. So, that it's a great day. [49:44] » So, uh moving on with that, we do have to have a public hearing on this because [49:47] the community development block grant requires that. So, I will open up a [49:51] public hearing. If there's anybody here that would like to speak against [49:55] receiving a grant for $750,000, please uh come up and speak as such. [50:01] » Or anybody that would like to speak for it. So So that's our public hearing. Uh [50:06] we will take action on that it looks like in our new business. Yes. Uh thank [50:10] you, Michael, for speaking. I appreciate it. Um moving on, we've got a consent [50:13] agenda to uh to approve. That's our minutes and financials from the prior [50:17] meeting. >> So have a motion from Justin to approve. [50:22] Second from Jenny. All those in favor say I. Any opposed. Uh that passes [50:27] unanimously. Um there is no old business to speak of. Moving on to new business. [50:32] Lee, we're considering a new town seal. >> Thank you, mayor. If you'll look at page [50:35] 66 uh of your agenda packet, uh you'll see work that um has been sort of in [50:43] conjunction uh with the conversion of our website and with our comp plan. [50:49] » [clears throat] >> uh to the left uh you'll see the uh town [50:52] seal that has our our fountain inland on it. We've begun [50:57] um implementing that more in our visuals with our new signs uh in our downtown [51:03] area. And then on the far right it says visit Moxville. We have that, you see it [51:08] there. Uh we're reserving that for TDA. Um, so we are beginning the process [51:13] where we're creating a little bit of separate uh messaging with official town [51:18] notifications uh and then TDA notifications. It got a [51:23] little bit um uh combobulated and I think we need to [51:28] make a clearer delineation. So, um, you've all asented to this change, but [51:33] I'd really like for the record for you all to to be on record as stating, uh, [51:38] that this would be our new town seal, and then this would be the TDA's, uh, [51:42] marketing message. And with that approval, then we'll begin the process [51:46] to go ahead and update some of our other materials. [51:50] » Motion to approve. >> We have a motion from Carl to approve [51:53] the new town seal. >> Second. [51:55] » A second from Justin. All those in favor say I. Any opposed? That passes. So, we [52:00] have a new town sale. Uh, moving on. Cons. Item number B, consider adopting a [52:06] resolution to accept ownership and maintenance of streets. Lee, [52:10] » thank you, mayor. Um, I want to thank our public works director, Brian Moore, [52:13] for uh getting everything together for your agenda packet. Um, it it certainly [52:19] uh has my recommendation for you to adopt a resolution to officially accept [52:24] ownership of uh maintenance of these streets. [52:27] Okay. >> Yeah. As we grow as a uh town, we're [52:31] going to get new streets and I and they are up to DOT guidelines. [52:34] » That's correct. >> As such, so we will get power bill money [52:36] for for the >> That's right. [52:38] » streets. So, any questions for Lee on the street adoption? Okay. [52:42] » So, move. >> Motion from Justin, a second from Johnny [52:44] Fry. All those in favor say I. >> Any opposed? That passes. Item number C, [52:50] consider adopting a resolution to concept ownership and maintenance of [52:53] streets, some other streets. >> Thank you, mayor. Uh again, this is the [52:57] Hudson Glenn subdivision. Uh I want to thank Brian uh for uh checking to make [53:03] sure that we dotted eyes and cross te's on this. So we just uh we just need for [53:08] the record for the commissioners to approve including this into our street [53:12] system so we can get it on our power bill map. [53:17] » So move a motion from Justin, a second from Jenny. All those in favor say I. [53:21] » Any opposed? And that passes. Um item number D, consider adopting a budget [53:27] amendment number three, the enterprise fund. Lynn, [53:30] [snorts] [53:33] » good evening, mayor, board of commissioners. [53:36] Uh there are a few on page 87. Uh there are a few budget amendments for the [53:40] enterprise fund to consider totaling $218,000. [53:45] Explanations I've included and I'd be happy to answer any questions. [53:53] Any questions for Lynn on this? This is on page 87 of the packet. [54:06] » We just need a motion. >> We have a motion from Jenny, [54:10] » a second from Johnny Fry. All those in favor say I. [54:13] » Any opposed? Thank you, Lynn. Um [clears throat and cough] [54:17] item number D, consider appointment for uh filling the town commissioner vacant [54:22] seat. Lee, >> thank you, mayor. Of course, uh Rob [54:25] Taylor seat is vacant. Um as as a board, you have the opportunity to to appoint [54:31] someone to that seat. Uh one method is the motion uh and vote method. I've [54:37] talked to you informally about that. Um it appears that may be the process that [54:41] you would like to take, but I just wanted for the record to note that um [54:46] the motion and vote method is one uh valid option uh for you to to choose. [54:52] » Okay. So, uh any any uh direction on this as [54:57] such? Make a motion to appoint Neil Cheek. [55:01] » Second. >> Okay. Have a motion and a second uh for [55:04] Neil Cheek. All those in favor say I. Any oppose? And that passes. Neil Chica [55:09] is coming off the planning board, so he has years and years of service. So, [55:13] he'll be a great addition to our town board. U and I will talk to him and he [55:17] should be here at our October meeting. >> Okay. Next item is to consider approving [55:23] an agreement with codeight planners in the amount of 146500. Uh Lee, [55:29] » thank you, mayor. Um, uh, we put out an RFP, um, [55:34] updating our our zoning ordinance, our development ordinance has been a [55:38] priority, um, since I came a year and a half ago, but we wanted to allow the [55:43] comprehensive plan process to work through. Uh, and now that we've done [55:47] that, um, I'm recommending to you, uh, codeight planners. Chad Meadows is the [55:53] principal. They're out of Durham. They're well regarded. Um and uh they've [55:58] got a a small staff uh and their proposal uh calls for them to come to us [56:04] unlike a couple of others that wanted to do team meetings. This is important [56:09] enough where they need to come uh to us to be able to do this work uh to update [56:14] our unified development ordinances a UDO and um Mr. Meadows I think will be very [56:21] helpful. um he stays uh uh very in tune with what's happening in the general [56:27] assembly and their change of laws which I think will be of help to uh to our our [56:33] town attorney. It it will be another uh 12 to 14month process. Um but um I I [56:41] think uh for us for this group to come in coming off the comprehensive plan, [56:47] listening to feedback, listening to you all, we we need to rewrite that unified [56:51] development ordinance and and and make it more user friendly and provide [56:55] absolute clarity for our expectations. >> Any questions for Lee on this? [57:00] » Motion to approve. >> Have a motion from Justice, second from [57:03] Carl. All those in favor say I. >> Any opposed? So that passes. Uh item [57:09] number G, consider a resolution for the town of Moxel's application for [57:13] community development block grant. This is going back to what Mr. Walner [57:17] introduced to us. Uh we just need a motion to adopt the resolution to submit [57:21] a formal application to the North Carolina Development Department of [57:25] Commerce. >> Motion from Justin, [57:29] second from Johnny Fry. All those in favor say I. [57:32] » Any opposed? And that passes. Thank you, Mr. Walter. Appreciate it. Uh we do have [57:38] an item number H on page five. Consider a resolution authorizing application for [57:43] funding for the merger reutilization feasibility study. [57:46] » Thank you, mayor. Again, this [clears throat] is the next step in the [57:49] process in our utilities. We are now officially a bulkwater customer. Uh [57:54] David County has been supplying us water for a little over a week now, and I came [57:58] home uh from holiday and I had water pressure. So, so far so good. [58:02] Everything's working well. I've talked to you before. Um, [58:08] we don't control utilities. Utilities controls us. It's a numbers game and it [58:13] has to be a numbers game. So, so the next step uh Chuck uh Willis uh has [58:18] recommended that there's uh grant funding available for feasibility study [58:22] that would help us with uh water modeling between Davy's system and our [58:27] system. So, as we look to the future, we can have those numbers. The county uses [58:31] Hazen and Sawyer. We use Willis Engineers and and uh if we receive this [58:37] grant, I think it's $50,000 that would go toward a larger study [58:42] between the county and the town. >> But the 50,000 grant would allow us to [58:46] pay our our part for that. >> Any questions for Lee on this? [58:52] Seems like it goes right in line with us and and opening the new plant. [58:56] » Doesn't always work that way, but so far that's the intent. Yes, sir. [59:00] » Motion. We have a motion from Justin, second from Jenny. All those in favor [59:04] say I. >> Any opposed? That passes. Thank you. [59:09] That is all of our new business. Uh, moving on to communications from town [59:12] staff. Al, do you have anything tonight? >> I do, Mr. Mayor. Just briefly, I'll have [59:17] to tell you folks to um try to monitor as best you can the actions in Raleigh [59:22] at North Carolina General Assembly. And of course, if you have questions to [59:27] raise those, I will tell you that the budget bill passed recently. And the [59:31] budget bill had, we'll just call them non-budgetary matters contained therein. [59:35] Several affect you. I won't go over that laundry list, but I do commend it to [59:39] your review and education to learn about that. I will talk about one thing and [59:44] then one opportunity. Um, there is something called a snap error rate [59:50] penalty. SNAP is supp supplemental nutrition program that was formerly [59:58] known I believe as food stamps. It's county administered. It's it's federally [1:00:03] funded through the state and county administered. You don't administer it [1:00:07] but there was a federal piece of legislation whose name is not memorable [1:00:13] but the newspaper name is one big beautiful bill. And as part of one big [1:00:18] beautiful bill, there were things buried within that. One of the things was a [1:00:23] penalty regarding public assistance and there was going to be a pass down of [1:00:29] responsibility and a result of that pass down through the states is that the [1:00:34] state has in turn mattered well that's not the right word. The state has passed [1:00:38] on some of the obligation downstream. So, uh there is something called a snap [1:00:45] error rate penalty and this penalty is going to be passed [1:00:50] um down to the counties and then a percentage is going to go to [1:00:54] municipalities and it may have budgetary impact. [1:00:58] » Uh this is not the form to talk about that, but certainly if um questions come [1:01:03] up about that, I'm available to answer it, but it could have budgetary impact. [1:01:08] So, it's worth knowing that that's a new change in the law that's going to [1:01:12] happen. Secondly, as you may know, uh the North Carolina League of [1:01:17] Municipalities has its 2026 legislative summit that's taking place at the Benton [1:01:23] Convention Center, which is in your sister city, Winston Salem. It happens [1:01:28] on 30 September, 2026. Uh starts at 11. It's a five-hour [1:01:34] program one day and if you choose to go, you can register for it. You can [1:01:38] register online, but it's an opportunity to find out about the legislative [1:01:42] process, what's happened. And really, I think what they're going to try to do is [1:01:45] to create a legislative agenda that of course the League of Municipalities is [1:01:49] somewhat of a um advocacy organization. Think you're members and they advocate [1:01:55] to the elected officials matters of concern to towns and cities. As you [1:02:00] know, North Carolina has a handful of big cities, but it has 570 small towns. [1:02:07] » Uh, many of which many of which are smaller than Moxville. Moxville is three [1:02:12] times the size of the town I grew up in. This is a big city for us. [1:02:16] » So, um, anyway, just wanted to make sure you knew about that. If you haven't [1:02:19] registered, you should, but it's coming up in uh in about three weeks. So, [1:02:23] that's what I have for you. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. uh [1:02:27] Lee, [cough] >> I [clears throat] think you've had an [1:02:28] opportunity to to meet informally, but um I am very very pleased to announce [1:02:33] two new team members uh joining us. Uh Kim Wells, who's with uh Lynn, uh Kim uh [1:02:41] will be coming to us Monday. Is that correct? [1:02:43] » Yes. >> Uh Kim is currently the finance director [1:02:46] and and town clerk in Booneville. Um uh she uh has 27 and a half years of [1:02:53] accounting experience. I think she worked at Wetti for a period of time. [1:02:58] So, she has a working knowledge of sort of how the federal funding levels work. [1:03:03] Um, and Kim, we are very pleased to have you uh join us. And u I'm grateful that [1:03:09] uh Lynn uh committed to uh staying on board with us uh through the end of [1:03:15] November. And uh she has agreed uh to be on retainer for me as necessary. Nothing [1:03:22] against you, Kim. So, [laughter] so um uh we will we will uh have have [1:03:28] Len available. And then uh Eric Nance, today was his first uh day. Uh Eric [1:03:34] comes to us. He was a former planning and inspection director in Stokes [1:03:38] County. Um he is a certified zoning official through the school of [1:03:42] government. He also has a background in in public works in water and sewer and [1:03:47] street maintenance. We talked about that a little bit at lunch. Um but um we are [1:03:52] happy to have Eric on board and he and I are meeting with Johnny Easter Thursday [1:03:57] uh to begin that transition period uh where all that is uh coming in house for [1:04:03] zoning and planning for the town as you had directed me and and had budgeted [1:04:07] for. So very very pleased to have new team members on board [1:04:12] to be here. >> So um okay. Anything else? [1:04:16] » That's it. Mayor, I want I want you not to have to break a record for longevity. [1:04:21] Got a lot going on tonight. So, [laughter] [1:04:23] Jenny Stevenson, good. Carl, >> good tonight. Thank you. [1:04:28] » Good. >> You're all good. [1:04:32] » So, uh so I would like to welcome Kim and uh and Eric. I I know that uh you [1:04:37] don't see it see it right now, but we got a great team here. This is probably [1:04:41] the the one of the highest functioning town boards and uh staff that we've ever [1:04:46] had that I know of and I and I and I I appreciate [snorts] everybody uh working [1:04:50] toward that. We've got a lot going on. We are a small town in in some towns [1:04:54] eyes, but yet we are a big town and we got a lot of heart. So uh so as we [1:04:59] continue to move forward, I I know that you are going to add to our team and [1:05:02] we're going to do great things. Um I know we got we got a water plant to [1:05:06] decommission that's coming up. So, uh, so lot lots of big things happening in [1:05:09] the future. I'm hearing lots of great things about the sidewalks going in, um, [1:05:14] and and things are moving forward. So, let's continue to do that. Um, if [1:05:18] there's nothing else that anybody has to add, then I'll just ask for a motion to [1:05:22] adjurnn. So, motion from Justin, second from Carl. All those in favor say I. Any [1:05:27] opposed? We arejourned. Thank you for coming tonight.