1 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:14,040 Good morning. I'd like to bring this meeting to order. Angel, will you please do roll call? 2 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:25,780 Dr. Bird. Here. President Trebus. Here. Vice President Orr. Here. Director Ott. Here. Quorum is present. Let's all stand for the pledge, please. 3 00:00:25,780 --> 00:00:34,380 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which 4 00:00:34,380 --> 00:00:40,920 stands one nation under God in the physical liberty and justice for all. 5 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:48,370 Angela, will you read the meeting instructions please? 6 00:00:48,830 --> 00:00:51,030 The Board of Directors welcomes participation in meetings. 7 00:00:51,550 --> 00:00:55,210 The public is welcome to comment on matters appearing on the agenda at the time they are called. 8 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:59,030 the public may also comment on matters which are not on the agenda when the 9 00:00:59,030 --> 00:01:02,510 president calls for public input for the good of the district. This time is 10 00:01:02,510 --> 00:01:06,550 provided for the public to introduce any topic within the district's jurisdiction 11 00:01:07,050 --> 00:01:10,630 because these are non-agent and matters generally no discussion or comment by 12 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:14,870 the board should be expected except to properly refer the matter for review as 13 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:19,450 appropriate but no action will be taken at this meeting. All consent items are 14 00:01:19,450 --> 00:01:23,010 approved by a single action. There will be no separate discussion of these 15 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:27,850 items unless they are removed for separate discussion and action at the request of a director 16 00:01:27,850 --> 00:01:28,850 or member of the public. 17 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:35,010 If you wish to have an item removed, please do so after the president calls for consideration. 18 00:01:35,770 --> 00:01:37,930 Public comment will be limited to five minutes for speaker. 19 00:01:38,530 --> 00:01:40,830 Please step up to the podium and begin by stating your name. 20 00:01:41,290 --> 00:01:45,290 We ask that you say your name for the record but you're not required by law to do so. 21 00:01:45,690 --> 00:01:49,590 If you have joined this meeting via webinar, please click on the raised hand function and 22 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:52,350 And wait until your name or other identifying information is called. 23 00:01:52,990 --> 00:01:57,570 If you have joined us meeting via phone, please press star nine to raise your hand and 24 00:01:57,570 --> 00:02:00,150 wait until the last three digits of your phone number is called. 25 00:02:00,610 --> 00:02:00,910 Thank you. 26 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:10,180 Okay, we're going to do consent items and vice president board did you have something you want to say before we didn't consent? 27 00:02:11,820 --> 00:02:20,860 Yeah, consent items item number three, the warrants, my votes will be only for items one and two, not number three. 28 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:27,360 I do the fact that a company that I do occasional work for is in the warrants. 29 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:31,280 So my vote will not be counted on number three. 30 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:37,500 All right, just identify the source of income interest specifically for the record. 31 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:44,060 It's for, for Tina Spurs the one that I do the farming for. 32 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:49,400 Okay, since it's on consent, that PVC does not require you to leave the room. 33 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:57,620 You can still vote on the matter, just to clerk note that whatever his vote on consent is will be for the other items, and he's abstaining that item three. 34 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:01,900 And obviously if it gets pulled, then you have to leave the row. 35 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Okay, so it doesn't need to be pulled, we can just vote on it normal. 36 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Okay, do we have a motion for the consent items? 37 00:03:13,450 --> 00:03:14,970 Motion to approve the consent items. 38 00:03:15,530 --> 00:03:16,090 Give a second. 39 00:03:18,870 --> 00:03:19,750 Oh, seconded. 40 00:03:20,210 --> 00:03:22,790 Do you have any public comment on consent items before we vote? 41 00:03:26,130 --> 00:03:26,790 I'm not on the phone. 42 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:27,630 No, he has a raise. 43 00:03:27,630 --> 00:03:28,210 Okay. Okay. 44 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:32,830 Should we do a roll call on this in Frank? 45 00:03:34,950 --> 00:03:37,490 Yes. Okay, could we do a roll call, please? 46 00:03:37,930 --> 00:03:43,210 Mr. Angelo. Dr. Bird. Yes. President Froblos. Yes. And vice president Boer. Yes. 47 00:03:43,630 --> 00:03:45,910 And director Otte. Yes. Motion passes. 48 00:03:48,210 --> 00:03:51,090 Okay, so let's move on to a public comment for the 49 00:03:51,090 --> 00:03:52,850 good of the district. We have any public comment. 50 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:00,980 Any public comment anybody who hand raised on the 51 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,160 Okay. No hands are raised. Okay. They're closing. Okay. Emerson, you want to come up? 52 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:19,780 Good morning, Emerson. Five minutes. 53 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:34,160 Truly need to be said. One thing I don't see represented today is the Bill Lyons. 54 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,500 public relations policy. You know because in some areas they're called the 55 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:44,040 TARN Brother Gang. We hear a lot of things coming out of some places that 56 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,720 don't really make sense. And when I start to see people attack, they had 57 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,520 nothing that involves whatsoever. I take exception to that. You know I understand 58 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,260 how some people are real desperate to get their point across. But if you can't 59 00:04:58,260 --> 00:05:01,880 stick to the facts and to the people that are actually involved, then maybe you 60 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,200 to put your pen down once in a while. I have a couple of concerns. One I wanted to bring up today 61 00:05:08,860 --> 00:05:13,480 is I can't ask questions here. So I guess there'll be rhetorical. I've got to talk to you. 62 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,760 I guess there'll be rhetorical, but when I looked in your policies the best I could, 63 00:05:18,820 --> 00:05:23,600 I'm just an amateur. I was trying to find out if you had a written procedure for handling public 64 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:30,080 relations requests. Now I'm not suggesting anything. I've talked about everyone that comes up. If I 65 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,560 I have an issue. I bring it up and I appreciate the last couple of responses quite honestly. 66 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:39,360 I told us some things at least I wasn't aware of at the time, and I don't think the public was either. 67 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:49,690 But I, in 25 years, I don't know of making public record requests between here, the Board of Supervisors, the City Council, especially those poor people. 68 00:05:51,210 --> 00:06:00,010 I've never, ever once, in Qatar, never even heard of whoever the conversation was about, the public record request, 69 00:06:00,010 --> 00:06:06,530 to follow up with on the individual with a phone call, not once. I just find 70 00:06:06,530 --> 00:06:10,970 that to be unusual and the reason I bring it up and that's why I look to see if 71 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:16,550 you had a public if you had a procedure that you don't seem to have and then when 72 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:23,010 I was reading over the weekend we're going to talk about we have talked about the 73 00:06:23,010 --> 00:06:27,410 fringe parcels and how we were here when we were told you had a policy where 74 00:06:27,410 --> 00:06:32,650 then we got the public record request that said you don't have a policy and now I'm reading 75 00:06:32,650 --> 00:06:43,310 in the paper about a, let's see, bisected parcels. So we're going to rename it. Reminds me 76 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:50,070 of a Modesto focus when they decide that their nickname should be mofo. I won't tell you how 77 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:53,670 many third graders get a chuckle when they hear that call somebody that and see what they think. 78 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:55,890 but that's made us their focus. 79 00:06:58,070 --> 00:07:00,530 But when we're sitting here and we see that we 80 00:07:00,530 --> 00:07:07,550 don't have a policy for public record requests and that we don't have a policy that 81 00:07:07,550 --> 00:07:12,870 other districts deemed necessary for fringe parcels, whatever you choose to call 82 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:16,470 them, but let's not pretend that anything's different by changing the name, okay? 83 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:23,270 Do we need a policy pet? I truly believe that. 2011, as we've talked about before, 84 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:29,350 or OID spent a year looking up a study in their fringe parcels. 85 00:07:30,570 --> 00:07:32,330 That's what I believe we need to do. 86 00:07:32,490 --> 00:07:37,690 A recent public record request showed approximately 200 native those in MID. 87 00:07:39,030 --> 00:07:42,770 I'm happy with the box, but there's nothing wrong with that because nobody's gone one by 88 00:07:42,770 --> 00:07:43,750 one looking through it. 89 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:46,630 Now I'm not here to fry anybody. 90 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:51,950 I think what OID did, the best I can tell what they did from the articles in the paper, 91 00:07:53,790 --> 00:07:54,790 makes sense. 92 00:07:55,430 --> 00:08:02,490 If there is an issue, find a process, find a procedure and move forward with it. 93 00:08:03,050 --> 00:08:04,110 Solve the problem. 94 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:09,470 But what we've been getting is this Tarn Feather Group that goes after, well, it wasn't 95 00:08:09,470 --> 00:08:11,150 a good enough study. 96 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:12,750 Oh, we've got to go do this. 97 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:17,630 is that people involved creating, they're asking for the study or bad, everybody's wrong 98 00:08:17,630 --> 00:08:22,650 but them. And later today I'm going to ask if we ever procedure, they'll stop people 99 00:08:22,650 --> 00:08:32,150 from selling thousands of acre feet of water out of the MID district of MID water because 100 00:08:32,150 --> 00:08:37,730 you give them the water. And there'll be a public request today to ask if we have a number 101 00:08:37,730 --> 00:08:42,690 for how many acre feet of water we're fleshing down that line that goes through Bill Lyon's property. 102 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:47,990 You know, I don't know whether it's a distraction or what, but when we were here arguing about 103 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:53,290 the price for the groundwater replenishment program, we tried to get a low number to get people to 104 00:08:53,290 --> 00:08:59,870 use it. I argue for it. I can't use your water. My water comes out of a hose. My electricity comes from 105 00:08:59,870 --> 00:09:07,090 a switch. I've got nothing to gain in the middle, but not having a policy that nobody's using. 106 00:09:08,570 --> 00:09:13,830 because it's set too high doesn't make sense to me. I think we need to review 107 00:09:13,830 --> 00:09:18,170 it all and I think we need to get more procedures in place so people can't just 108 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:23,250 do whatever the heck they feel like when it comes to responses. Thank you very 109 00:09:23,250 --> 00:09:23,930 much for your time. 110 00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:29,940 Thank you for your comments. Does anybody else have any public 111 00:09:29,940 --> 00:09:34,570 comment? They'd like to bring to our attention this morning. 112 00:09:38,940 --> 00:09:40,040 Okay we'll close 113 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:46,300 public comment, for now, I would like to say something because this friend's parcel thing has been such a 114 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,300 controversial confused mess. 115 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:57,340 Parcel lines as a potenz of property, they come and go, they change over the years. 116 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:05,080 And then my deed does not have any jurisdiction over those issues as you can note in our last go or last last go report. 117 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:14,860 NYD legal boundary does not change. The water code requires our rules to be 118 00:10:14,860 --> 00:10:20,920 equitable. The government code requires our language and those rules to be 119 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:27,640 simple. They are. The rule is very simple. If you're in the district, you're 120 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:33,420 100% in the district. If you're outside the district, you're 100% outside the 121 00:10:33,420 --> 00:10:39,080 district. You can call property outside the district, a French parcel, and a 122 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,640 adjacent parcel. I can hit it with a golf ball from my land inside the district 123 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,880 parcel. You can call whatever you want, 124 00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:53,060 but our rule is simple. 1.33 says the 125 00:10:53,060 --> 00:11:02,080 board every year will allocate an allotment of water to be used for acres within 126 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,360 in the district, any further comments to that Frank? 127 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:11,780 No, we don't have any French parcel policy that I'm aware of. 128 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,520 We have the, we have in-district water that can be used for in-district. 129 00:11:17,220 --> 00:11:23,940 Out-of-district water, the only policy or program I know of is the GRP that you can get about. 130 00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:27,640 There's no, yeah, there's no carve out for French parcels. 131 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,580 There may be parcels that are French parcels by section parcels, whatever. 132 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:34,420 However, but again, there is just indistric or out of district. 133 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,620 And I don't think we can discuss this anymore. 134 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,400 We are allowed brief responses to public comment, but that's it. 135 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,980 So we should stop Mr. President. 136 00:11:43,380 --> 00:11:44,380 Okay, thank you for that. 137 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:45,600 All right. 138 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,220 Hang on. 139 00:11:47,460 --> 00:11:49,000 When they're up there, so they can receive all. 140 00:11:49,020 --> 00:11:51,160 Hey, don't out of order. 141 00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:53,800 Let's move on. 142 00:11:56,820 --> 00:11:57,700 Staff presentations. 143 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Let's do Wilson, will you step up into the local hazard mitigation plan? 144 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Good morning. 145 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,540 Wilson Chalabi, AGMF Finance. 146 00:12:19,020 --> 00:12:23,980 And before you today, I have a very brief presentation to update you 147 00:12:23,980 --> 00:12:27,380 and receive your input on the local hazard mitigation plan. 148 00:12:27,940 --> 00:12:29,680 There's no action needed from you today. 149 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:31,080 This is just a presentation. 150 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,700 and staff will come to you at a different time, 151 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:36,480 and later time with a proposed resolution 152 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,780 for your consideration. 153 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:41,580 Now for folks not familiar with the local hazard mitigation 154 00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:44,420 plan, I'll just give you a quick update, 155 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,520 let you know what it is, and why it's so critical, 156 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,260 and then I'll pass the presentation to Dave Funk 157 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:53,100 and Calvin who are sitting right here. 158 00:12:54,780 --> 00:12:57,140 Now, what is so important about this plan? 159 00:12:57,140 --> 00:13:05,720 It is basically a repository identified local hazards as done so by our employees as subject expert 160 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:12,380 And also our consultants who are experts experts in this field and have done similar plans for other entities 161 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,540 Some of these identified hazards can be things such as security at a sub station 162 00:13:19,380 --> 00:13:21,660 Lighting strike effective transformer 163 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:27,640 I'll be up to a crisis such as a damp failure and can affect life and property. 164 00:13:29,580 --> 00:13:32,220 Now, why is this plan so critical for us? 165 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:36,160 As your AGM of finance, I'm always thinking about the district's finances. 166 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,000 So for me, on a selfish level, it allows the district to receive mitigation funds to address 167 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,820 some of these local hazards. 168 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,140 But at MIT, we don't distract the box and move on. 169 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,400 This is more to this. 170 00:13:48,400 --> 00:14:01,580 This plan allows us to use this look-class remediation plan as a planning tool in our budget process and potentially create projects in the future that will allow us to address the hazard star in this plan. 171 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:12,920 We will also be eligible to receive FEMA emergency funding in case there is a catastrophe. We would not be eligible to receive that funding if we did not have this plan. 172 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:19,280 And in the past, we were part of the staff's last county's low class remediation plan as an annexed entity. 173 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:30,400 However, that put the allocation of funds in the hands of the county, and the county we need to balance its own needs and its own departments and the district. 174 00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:38,300 By having our own plan, we put our fate in our own hands and are able to allocate funds as we deem fit. 175 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,180 And I can't talk about this plan without talking about the colossal undertaking that's 176 00:14:43,180 --> 00:14:44,220 taken us to get here. 177 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,220 It's been spearheaded by our safety officer race and the front seat and the front row. 178 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,160 Along with our consultants, our employees, and of course the local community. 179 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,640 We've done various outreach events to get the community's input and incorporate those changes. 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,800 We're going to go to our plans. 181 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Unless Jimmy, you have any input about this plan, you want to mention? 182 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:31,420 Sure. So just briefly, as Wilson mentioned, we're not asking for action today. We've mentioned this before. This is just a workshop to lead you through where the current progress is. Every day at MIT, there's hundreds of things that divert our attention, but we know it's important to plan and specifically plan for these hazards. If you think about it last year, this time we were sitting here in this other 183 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:34,920 in California that had the fires and all that went into that. 184 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:39,520 So we're constantly reminded of how important it is to have a plan for emergencies. 185 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,980 This is part of that planning process, so you'll get an update of where we're at. 186 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:48,700 We receive your input as Wilson mentioned, we'll be back at some point to adopt this and move forward. 187 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,220 And beyond it, allowing us to tap into funding that we wouldn't otherwise have access to, 188 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:00,200 it gives us an opportunity to plan and exercise for the next hazard which is, as we all know, probably just around the corner. 189 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:04,440 Well, with that, Dave and Calvin, please come on up. 190 00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:08,410 Thank you, listen, thank you. 191 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:11,890 Good morning, Dave Funk, Dave Elfunk Consulting. 192 00:16:12,010 --> 00:16:13,310 I'm here with Calvin Furton. 193 00:16:13,870 --> 00:16:16,550 And Calvin's going to do most of the presentation, 194 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:19,950 but I just wanted to say that as a utility, 195 00:16:20,250 --> 00:16:24,230 M-I-D is a leader, and as a critical infrastructure, 196 00:16:24,290 --> 00:16:28,530 it's very, very important for power, for water, 197 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:31,990 for water treatment, for dams, for all of that. 198 00:16:31,990 --> 00:17:01,170 We are fortunate that we get to go around the state and work with others and train and do exercises and plan as well, but I'm proud that I've worked a little over four decades in Stanislaus County with the cities and the counties and with the utility districts TID with Calvin was from before and you guys are doing great, great stuff here with the emergency management program training and exercises and this is absolutely critical to make you eligible. 199 00:17:01,170 --> 00:17:05,770 don't have to do these projects that your staff has helped us identify, but to make 200 00:17:05,770 --> 00:17:10,870 you eligible to receive millions of dollars potentially over the life of the five years 201 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:11,350 and beyond. 202 00:17:11,650 --> 00:17:16,830 So I'm going to let Calvin go, introduce himself a little bit, and go through, and then 203 00:17:16,830 --> 00:17:18,870 we'll both be here if you have any questions. 204 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:22,360 Thanks, Dave. 205 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,680 Good morning, directors. 206 00:17:24,260 --> 00:17:27,300 We're here to, again, talk about this local hazard mitigation plan. 207 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,340 I recently retired from Turlock Irrigation District, and as the emergency preparedness 208 00:17:32,340 --> 00:17:57,860 heard his coordinator and Dave and I wrote the same plan for TID back in 2018-2019 and they've used it very successfully to be able to fund or help fund a lot of mitigation projects that they've done over the years, over $10 million they've received in the last five years by having this plan in place and being able to apply for and receive federal and state grants for different mitigation projects. 209 00:17:57,860 --> 00:18:01,760 We also recently just completed this exact same plan, 210 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:07,020 a version of this exact same type of plan for imperial irrigation district down in Southern California. 211 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:15,220 So we are officially working for three of the four utilities in the state that provide both water and electric power, and we're happy to be here. 212 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:26,000 I now live in Tennessee, but my heart is still here in Modesto, I was born in Sacramento, grew up here in Modesto, and I had lived in California my whole life until just a couple of years ago, so go vals. 213 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:35,080 Anyway, so I'm here to talk through this plan, let you guys know what is in it and what is going to be expected moving forward. 214 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:42,780 And like I said, we'll bring this back to you at hopefully a relatively short period of time to be able to adopt it and move forward with the plan. 215 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,460 So hopefully I can figure out how this works. 216 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:53,000 Okay, so first of all, what is a local hazard mitigation plan? A local hazard mitigation plan is different than a typical emergency plan. 217 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,220 And the typical emergency plan talks about if this happens, 218 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,460 here's how we're going to respond. 219 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:59,400 And then ultimately here's how we're going to recover. 220 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,000 So it's a more response oriented plan, 221 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,880 something that's responding to something 222 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,640 that's already happened. 223 00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:06,720 Local hazard mitigation plan looks forward 224 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,080 and looks forward to what could happen 225 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,500 and how we can put some projects in place 226 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,820 so that when those things happen, 227 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:16,000 because I think like Jimmy said, 228 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,000 it's certainly not a matter of if we're going to have 229 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,800 some sort of disaster or emergency. 230 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,620 It's when we're going to have a disaster or emergency and to what level is the damage 231 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,220 going to affect us? 232 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:32,580 So local housing mitigation plans help to identify projects that we can do to move forward 233 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:41,020 and so that we don't have such effects on our infrastructure and ultimately our customers 234 00:19:41,020 --> 00:19:45,300 who we all work for, providing water and electric power. 235 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:47,300 So this plan is a little bit different. 236 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:53,360 I think it's really a good demonstration of also how MID and TID and IID, all of you guys, 237 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,340 are forward looking and not waiting for something to happen and then figure out how we can respond, 238 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:05,040 but looking forward to be proactive in your planning process with how we can lessen those 239 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,740 impacts before they ever happen. 240 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,980 So what this plan does is it looks at all of the things that could happen here. 241 00:20:10,380 --> 00:20:16,200 And we chose to address in this plan natural hazards, not man-made or technological hazards. 242 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:23,140 why did we do that? For two reasons. Number one, if we address man-made or technological 243 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:29,340 hazards, meaning a failure of infrastructure, we have to address all technological or man-made 244 00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:35,920 hazards in this plan, which makes this plan instead of 200 pages, 800 pages. It makes 245 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,940 the plan very difficult to manage, also, and the main reason that we don't address technological 246 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:45,500 or man-made hazards in this plan is this plan, the reason that we're doing this plan is so that 247 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:47,560 we can move forward with applying for grants. 248 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,000 And there are grants for technological and man-made hazards. 249 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,180 Those don't require you to have this plan in place 250 00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:55,080 in order to get them. 251 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,920 But natural hazards, mitigating natural hazards, 252 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,240 this is the plan that you need in order 253 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,320 to get state and federal funding. 254 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,460 So there's really no benefit to us in terms 255 00:21:04,460 --> 00:21:07,580 of a funding process for doing technological or man-made 256 00:21:07,580 --> 00:21:11,820 hazards where there's a tremendous benefit for us 257 00:21:11,820 --> 00:21:12,740 to do natural hazards. 258 00:21:12,740 --> 00:21:16,400 So what we do is we looked at what has happened here in the past. 259 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,140 We've had flooding. 260 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:18,600 We've had fires. 261 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:25,340 We had a lightning fire cause fires in 2020 and the hills above Patterson impacted TID. 262 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,840 We've had droughts. 263 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:29,280 We've had extreme heat events. 264 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,960 We've even had some extreme cold events back in the 90s where we suffered from some extreme 265 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,500 cold snaps. 266 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,620 So we identified that the natural hazards that can occur here. 267 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,360 And then we also looked at just because it's a hazard doesn't mean that we're going 268 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:42,340 to be impacted by it. 269 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:46,000 necessarily. So we looked at what are your assets that are at risk to those 270 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,420 houses and how would they be impacted should that hazard occur. And then we 271 00:21:49,420 --> 00:21:54,280 took all that information with your, with the staff here at MIT. And I do want to 272 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,600 say that the staff here at MIT has been nothing but supportive and nothing but 273 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,820 hard working in terms of how they've helped us to build this. Ray and his 274 00:22:03,820 --> 00:22:09,280 department, I hate to call anybody out. I just did Ray and his department because 275 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,800 they've really stepped up and taken this on. This is a tremendous lift. These plans typically take 276 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,820 at least 12 to 18 months to put together. That's how much work goes into them. And so you guys have 277 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:25,580 really been helpful, but look, taking all the information and then coming to you and saying, okay, 278 00:22:25,660 --> 00:22:28,480 what would you like to do about it? What kind of projects would you like to do? We like to 279 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:34,100 characterize it as a Christmas wish list. If I had all the money in the world and all the staff in 280 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:38,140 the world and I could do anything I wanted, what would I like to do within reason? And that's the 281 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:39,260 the projects that we put together. 282 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:41,880 And so we identify those, 283 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,700 and then those are the ones that we will include in the plan. 284 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:49,680 This plan also kind of folds into your long term planning 285 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,660 too, and you're doing capital projects 286 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:53,780 from here on out, we're gonna consider mitigation 287 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:55,880 in terms of how can we build this 288 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,140 with an eye towards mitigation 289 00:22:57,140 --> 00:22:58,760 and an eye towards these hazards 290 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,020 that we've identified in reducing the impacts from those. 291 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,760 And then again, it does provide us opportunity 292 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,540 for being able to get state and federal grants. 293 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,820 So the whole part of the process is really to talk about who we are as a district because 294 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:17,620 we know, but you got to remember that the people are going to read this plan in order 295 00:23:17,620 --> 00:23:21,120 to grant you the money, they don't know you, they don't live here, they don't interact 296 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,100 with you ever. 297 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:27,880 And so we need to tell them what type of community we have, and that in terms of our services 298 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,900 that we provide, the demographics of our community, and especially our disadvantaged communities. 299 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:37,920 because it's certainly true that we see it all across the state that disadvantaged communities 300 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:43,080 tend to suffer more in the disaster than non-disadvantaged communities. And so they don't 301 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,340 have as much resources in order to reply, so we need to really consider them and we did. 302 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,160 Then we use a collaborative process both internally and externally. It's like we've talked about a 303 00:23:53,160 --> 00:24:00,240 couple of times. We work with the entire district staff as subject matter experts to not only identify 304 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,220 the hazardous and risk, but also the projects that we're going to move forward, but we also include 305 00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:10,440 what FEMA likes to call the whole community. And that means external agencies, other special districts, 306 00:24:10,780 --> 00:24:17,500 governments, public and private nonprofits, citizens, or residents of the community, and we put that 307 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:22,060 out to them too, and let them have them say and how all this is done. This is also a public plan. 308 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,680 This is not one that we hold back and we say no, no, that's privilege information. We can't share that 309 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,720 with you or that's secure information we can't share that with you. We don't put the level of 310 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,500 detail on this plan that would make it not shareable. This is a public plan it should be on your 311 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:40,860 website for in perpetuity at least as long as you have one. The public comment period is always open 312 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:45,540 so we're looking for feedback from the public forever on this plan to be honest or at least the 313 00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:51,700 lifetime of the plan and because of that this doesn't have a tremendous amount of detail in it. 314 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,240 The detail comes and let me tell you by having gone through this several times with 315 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:03,520 When I was at TID and with clients, when you go to apply for grant, then they want to know everything. 316 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,180 They want to know where you're going to do it, how you're going to do it, what's the impact on the environment, 317 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,860 what are the nuts, bolts, and screws you're going to use to build this thing. 318 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:11,440 So that's where the detail comes. 319 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,560 This plan is very high level. 320 00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:16,900 Once we have the plan to the point where we've shared it with everybody and we've gotten input and 321 00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:20,720 we've done this meeting, this is a public meeting for the plan, we've done some other public outreach, 322 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,920 which we'll talk about in a second. 323 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,720 Then we submit that plan to the Department of California Office of Emergency Services. 324 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,240 In fact, we work with them along the whole process of building this plan. 325 00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:37,100 Cal OES will give us feedback and say you've addressed these issues, but we need some more detail. 326 00:25:37,260 --> 00:25:41,640 Here we have what's called a plan review tool that we use, which is we call it a crosswalk, 327 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,180 which states in one column, here's the requirement, show us in your plan where you've met that requirement. 328 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,120 And we walk through the entire process. 329 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,800 So once we submitted to Cal OES, having worked with them and used that process, we're pretty 330 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,440 sure that the project is going to be, we're not going to get a lot of feedback. 331 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,980 And in our past experience, recent experience, we got very little when we did IED's plan. 332 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Once Cal OES is happy with the plan, Office of Emergency Services likes it, they'll forward 333 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,580 it on to FEMA. 334 00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:12,280 FEMA has the same opportunity to look through it and say, you've addressed this or you're 335 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:12,800 missing this. 336 00:26:14,020 --> 00:26:16,700 The TID plan, we got zero feedback from FEMA. 337 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:25,120 Once we had gone through that process and sent it to Cal OAS, with the IID plan, they wanted two sentences added to the plan, which we did. 338 00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:32,720 They told us exactly what to say and exactly where to put it and so we were able to send it back to and get it back very quickly. 339 00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:40,040 Once FEMA approves it, they'll bring it back, we'll bring it back to you, we'll get a letter called a notice of approvability pending adoption. 340 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,480 So we'll be back up here in front of you again to talk about where we are in that process. 341 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,360 us, you will hopefully, I will ask you to adopt it if you do, then we send it back to 342 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:54,360 FEMA and say, okay, here's our letter of adoption from the board, and here's our plan that 343 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,060 you've approved, and now you can start using it to apply for grants and hopefully get 344 00:26:58,060 --> 00:26:59,860 some money to be able to do some of these projects. 345 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,400 Then we have to continue to monitor our progress. 346 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,140 What projects did we do and what was the outcome of those projects, did they go well or did 347 00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:11,320 they, did we have some challenges, and we're always going to have challenges, so how do 348 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,220 we address those. What projects did we not do? And why not? We didn't have funding. 349 00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:20,720 We didn't have the staff time. That risk is no longer such a high hazard risk. 350 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,740 We moved it down the line, whatever. So we're going to do that along the way. 351 00:27:25,660 --> 00:27:31,640 And again, that is also remains part of the plan, so it remains a public as well. 352 00:27:32,460 --> 00:27:36,140 So what hazards did we identify? As you can, I won't go through all of these. 353 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:40,260 As you can see through the list, you know, these are, for the most part, naturally occurring 354 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:44,280 hazards with really one exception, and that's dam failure. 355 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,780 Dams can fail for a variety of reasons. 356 00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:48,880 They can fail because of weather-related issues. 357 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:53,300 You can get more inflow into the project than the project was ever designed to handle, and 358 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:54,340 you can't release it quick enough. 359 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,200 You can also get it through misoperation or through failures of equipment. 360 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,360 But because dam, so dam failure is kind of a mixed bag. 361 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:08,320 because Dan failure though has such a high impact to us should it happen we're 362 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,600 required to include in your plan and also you guys are owners of Dom Pedro and 363 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:20,920 also Modesto Reservoir and so those have to be included in the plan. Just an 364 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,540 example of it's better to be lucky than good. In 2018 we built TID's plan we included 365 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:31,940 public health emergencies. What we were thinking at the time was flu or H1N1 we were 366 00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:37,080 worried about at the time. And so this is again 2019. And so we put that on the 367 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,700 plan then 2020 happened and lo and behold we have public health emergency. So we're 368 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:47,960 trying to look forward and we are looking forward to not only what has happened 369 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,680 but potentially what could happen to us here. 370 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,340 Just some highlights from the 371 00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:57,100 mitigation side that what are we going to do about all these hatches that we've 372 00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:00,760 identified. We're really trying to help protect your infrastructure from the 373 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,660 impacts it has, including flooding, including wild and fire, specifically heat, extreme heat. 374 00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:13,660 And we're trying to help prevent complete loss of assets, complete loss of infrastructure, 375 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,340 and support water supply reliability. 376 00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:20,080 This district's been around a long time, more than 135 years. 377 00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:23,420 And 135 years, we've done a really good job in my opinion. 378 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,460 And I say we, because I'm part of the team, I think, we've done a really good job of 379 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:31,680 being really good stewards of the resources 380 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,540 we've been entrusted with on the 12-year River in particular. 381 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160 And so we want to help support that and make that continue. 382 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,460 Reliability is a huge, it's not only rates are important, 383 00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:45,480 yes, but when you turn on that light switch, 384 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,720 we want to make sure the light's actually turned on. 385 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,000 Or when you need to irrigate your acreage, 386 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,740 we want to make sure there's water there available. 387 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:53,240 So reliability is a huge thing. 388 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,120 And it's been proven through studies and reports 389 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,420 and people way smarter than me. 390 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,560 That every dollar that we spend on a mitigation project can return a six to eight dollars in benefits through, you know, not having things collapse or fail. So FEMA is in a little bit of turmoil now. I know everybody's probably heard of that. It's now they're calling it FEMA 2.0. And there is a bipartisan bill working its way through Congress. Yes, even in these environments we can work in a bipartisan passion. There's a bipartisan bill with 40 co-sponsors working its way through now to 391 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:35,620 re-imagined FEMA, re-imagined how FEMA interacts, moving some of the control to a more local, 392 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:41,060 instead of trying to handle everything through Washington, D.C. But one of the biggest 393 00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:46,480 focuses on this new re-imagined FEMA 2.0 or whatever they end up calling it is that mitigation 394 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,520 is going to be moved to the forefront. No longer is it going to be only response and only 395 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:57,440 recovery. Let's do some work locally with mitigation. And there's an expectation by I think everyone 396 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:13,780 that all levels of government, certainly in the federal side, there's an expectation that all levels of government, including special districts and local jurisdictions, counties and cities, will do things to help themselves prior to a disaster or emergency happening. 397 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,100 This plan is what helps you to do that. 398 00:31:19,210 --> 00:31:20,970 So how do we engage the public? 399 00:31:21,330 --> 00:31:23,610 Well, first we've engaged our internal stakeholders. 400 00:31:23,610 --> 00:31:27,970 This is a list of some of the folks, some of the apartments that have helped us along the way. 401 00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:36,190 We've also, like I said, engaged with local government, the county counties that you operate in. 402 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:39,670 As well as the city, we've done community input. 403 00:31:40,530 --> 00:31:43,130 We've done several community outreach efforts. 404 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:51,390 One of them that's shown in this photograph was the emergency preparedness fair that happened June, September. 405 00:31:51,390 --> 00:31:55,990 September, sorry September here in Modesto and you guys set up a booth and had a presence 406 00:31:55,990 --> 00:32:00,450 there and you can see from the photo that we were talking about the local hazard mitigation 407 00:32:00,450 --> 00:32:04,650 plan. Also your public power week where you had this table set up out in front. We did 408 00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:08,970 it there as well. We've also presented this plan to the operation of your council which 409 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:14,590 is the county Office of Emergency Services and the 9 cities in the county to allow those 410 00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:19,510 folks to know that you're doing this and how they can how they can participate in the process. 411 00:32:20,030 --> 00:32:25,030 This slide does show a web address of MID.org front slash LHMP. 412 00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:28,530 We were hoping to get that web address up before this process. 413 00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:34,730 We're working to get a shortened link to that page because the link that you'll see later 414 00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:37,570 is a bit long, so we're working through that. 415 00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:43,270 But anyway, we've done quite a bit of public outreach, social media, and quite a bit of things. 416 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:47,790 So this plan also allows us to access grants. 417 00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:51,470 These are the grant funding sources that are currently available, the Federal 418 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:55,050 Hazard mitigation grant program, and flood mitigation assistance, and then 419 00:32:55,050 --> 00:32:58,650 state of California has other grant programs available as well, yes, ma'am. 420 00:33:00,690 --> 00:33:01,630 We're going to get to it. 421 00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:06,190 Yeah, you have it on your web page now, it's the address that we're working on, 422 00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:07,650 getting it. 423 00:33:08,410 --> 00:33:11,890 Yeah, we may not be able to do that and we're working on something, hopefully. 424 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:15,730 Anyway, I'm sorry, it is on your website currently, and it has been there the whole 425 00:33:15,730 --> 00:33:15,950 time. 426 00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:19,110 This has been on the site since we've been working on it for quite a while, so 427 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:23,250 Thank you most, I'm sorry, I need to throw you into the vest there by the way. 428 00:33:23,390 --> 00:33:28,370 Yeah, I need to throw, these opinions are my own, not any opinion of Melissa or anybody 429 00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:29,110 else here at MIT. 430 00:33:31,030 --> 00:33:33,310 There are state hazard mitigation grants available. 431 00:33:33,670 --> 00:33:38,470 The biggest program from the Feds that was cut was a program called Building, Resilient, 432 00:33:38,650 --> 00:33:41,310 Infrastructure, and Communities, or the Brick Grant program. 433 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:46,930 That program has currently been reassigned to recovery. 434 00:33:46,930 --> 00:33:49,670 That was the biggest program where we could get grants. 435 00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:55,270 That program in my opinion only will come back in some form of fashion because they're 436 00:33:55,270 --> 00:33:57,430 going to be pushing mitigation pretty seriously. 437 00:33:58,130 --> 00:34:03,270 But it's also considered a best practice by the American Public Power Association as part 438 00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:06,690 of your reliable power provider program or RPP program. 439 00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:12,770 It's recommended that you have a hazard mitigation plan in place and that you use it to help 440 00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:14,910 to build reliability in your system. 441 00:34:14,910 --> 00:34:19,410 So not only is it a requirement if you want to get grants from state and federal sources 442 00:34:19,410 --> 00:34:25,250 for mitigation, but it's also a best practice by the industry that we all are associated 443 00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:27,090 with, which is our APPA. 444 00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:33,750 So this is what the process looked like, and that we've done so far, and I won't go again 445 00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:39,110 to go through all of these things, but again working with everybody to assess your risk, identify 446 00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:44,950 the hazards that we feel are the most likely to occur, and then also what are those vulnerabilities 447 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:49,610 and one of those impacts because just because we have a hazard doesn't mean that we're necessarily impacted. 448 00:34:50,150 --> 00:34:52,750 So we want to make sure we're being fair with that. 449 00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:56,170 And then developing those mitigation strategies and from the strategies, 450 00:34:56,330 --> 00:34:59,970 then we can identify the actual projects, which we have now, 451 00:35:00,110 --> 00:35:02,070 then we completed that work in the first part of December. 452 00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:04,530 So where do we go from here? 453 00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:08,530 Well, this public meeting is certainly a part of that process. 454 00:35:10,650 --> 00:35:12,470 This account says public outreach. 455 00:35:12,650 --> 00:35:13,870 So we wanted to make sure to have this meeting. 456 00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:19,630 We want to bring you all up to speed and so the first time you see this is not when 457 00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:22,690 we're asking you to adopt it, you're familiar with it and I've seen it. 458 00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:26,590 Want to give the public the opportunity to comment in a live session which this will. 459 00:35:27,410 --> 00:35:31,530 But once all that's happened, we'll finalize that plan, we'll send it to the senior management 460 00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:37,230 team here at MID and have them review it and sign off on it, so to speak. 461 00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:39,450 At that point, we'll submit it to Calibacy and FEMA. 462 00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:43,550 like I already described though once their half once FEMA is happy with it we 463 00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:48,070 get our notice of a pendability of approvability pending adoption it's at 464 00:35:48,070 --> 00:35:51,630 that point that we bring it back to you for a board resolution to adopt the 465 00:35:51,630 --> 00:35:56,810 plan then once we do that FEMA will issue a final approval letter and that 466 00:35:56,810 --> 00:36:01,210 starts your clock for the five year review process this plan is good for five 467 00:36:01,210 --> 00:36:04,810 years in five years we have to do this all over again so we'll probably start in 468 00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:10,310 your four because it does take a while to update this plan and keep it moving. 469 00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:15,870 And at that point we can start, we can apply for grants ahead of having this hazard mitigation 470 00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:17,870 plan in place if there's opportunity for that. 471 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:22,950 You cannot receive the money until this plan is in place and adopted and approved by FEMA, 472 00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:24,590 and you've adopted and sent the letter back. 473 00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:28,810 So you can go ahead and use it saying, hey, we have this plan and here's the process that's 474 00:36:28,810 --> 00:36:33,810 in, here's the state that it's in, but we can't receive the grant money until that plan 475 00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:38,970 comes back. And then I can say we'll do the annual progress reviews every year, reporting 476 00:36:38,970 --> 00:36:42,370 back on what we've done and haven't done in the reasons why we haven't done anything 477 00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:46,810 on some things or haven't done, haven't completed the projects and then we'll do a full 478 00:36:46,810 --> 00:36:54,250 update in five years. So with that I think, hey I'm a recovering public information officer 479 00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:58,810 so usually that means once I get the microphone you don't get it back so I think I get pretty 480 00:36:58,810 --> 00:37:04,070 good as far as our time goes. This is the current state of where the plan can be found 481 00:37:04,070 --> 00:37:07,910 on your website. It's under the safety department and it's under the localizer mitigation 482 00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:12,690 plan. So that plan is currently the most recent draft of that plan is there. Again, as 483 00:37:12,690 --> 00:37:17,990 we've updated it, we've replaced that draft over time. There's also a public survey on 484 00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:22,870 that site as well so people can weigh in and give a feedback. But with that, I'll throw it 485 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:26,630 back to you and ask if there are any questions, thoughts, comments, or concerns? 486 00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:26,930 Any comments? 487 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,020 Anybody have any comments? 488 00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:32,720 Questions? 489 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,000 No, just a comment. 490 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,740 Thank you for the update. 491 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,880 I completely support, you know, setting this district up for receiving grants. 492 00:37:44,060 --> 00:37:50,420 I think that we owe the rate payers to the rate payers to do this so I'm glad to see we're 493 00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:51,160 in the right direction. 494 00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:54,310 Thank you very much. 495 00:37:54,350 --> 00:37:55,710 We're happy to be here and happy to do it. 496 00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:58,350 I do have one quick question. 497 00:37:58,650 --> 00:38:03,650 Like you said, in five years, we're not five years up or we've got to go through this 498 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:10,830 from point A to point B or point A to point Z all over again or beings we had this plan 499 00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:15,550 we can do minor little things to it and then we don't have to go through all this all 500 00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:22,370 over again. We're creating a step here that we can advance in that five years quicker 501 00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:25,110 instead of having to go back through this whole thing. 502 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:30,230 There are parts of that process that are easier. We certainly don't have to go and make everybody 503 00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:33,830 aware that we have the plan and people are familiar with it. But no, unfortunately, we 504 00:38:33,830 --> 00:38:37,350 do have to, we don't know if this necessarily start over from scratch. 505 00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:41,290 But a lot of our steps already have been done, right? The hazards probably aren't going 506 00:38:41,290 --> 00:38:44,490 to change much. You know, maybe there's a new one that comes up that we didn't think about 507 00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:49,290 in the past. We can also add hazards as they go along in the plan and we can remove hazards 508 00:38:49,290 --> 00:38:52,930 if there are reasons why. We've removed it. Maybe we've done a project that has completely 509 00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:59,330 removed our risk from something. So now we can pull that hazard out. The risks still 510 00:38:59,330 --> 00:39:03,690 exist, but the hazard, sorry, the hazard still exists, but our risk is no longer the same. 511 00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:06,130 So we're going to have a grant, we're going to have a ground floor rating. 512 00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:07,730 Exactly. We're going to have a foundation. 513 00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:09,910 We just need to build a new house on top of it, yeah. 514 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:18,730 I might add that, like Wilson had mentioned, this is, this is your own now standalone plant, 515 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:21,950 which will make it a lot easier in the future, like you said. 516 00:39:22,510 --> 00:39:28,650 In the past, you have been as far back as 2011, I think, was the last time that MIT was 517 00:39:28,650 --> 00:39:36,870 an annex. You were listed on a table as an annex but you were at the discretion of the county 518 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:43,370 that now you stand alone. We are doing one for a TID right now where we're refreshing theirs. 519 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:52,190 So it is easier except that sometimes we're at the mercy of FEMA or Cal OES when they come up with 520 00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:56,470 new requirements like they've done recently. But yeah, we'll be able to hit the ground running, 521 00:39:56,470 --> 00:40:00,890 especially if we do the annual updates that's required as well. 522 00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:02,930 So in my view, it'll be a lot easier. 523 00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:04,070 Thank you. 524 00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:06,550 Just going to compliment your leadership, by the way, 525 00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:07,930 and your direction that you're going. 526 00:40:08,590 --> 00:40:13,510 Jimmy Wilson, Ray, and Toxie Burris forever has been involved 527 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:17,450 when I was with the county and the city as involved as well. 528 00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:19,210 So you guys are doing great. 529 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:19,670 Thank you. 530 00:40:20,350 --> 00:40:20,630 All right. 531 00:40:20,890 --> 00:40:22,090 Thank you for your presentation. 532 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:27,770 Okay, Jesse, you want to give us a water report? 533 00:40:30,110 --> 00:40:33,590 President Fobos, I'll make just a couple of comments as we pull up the presentation. 534 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:38,570 So we've got the standard of water supply report for you today, but we also threw in a couple of slides. 535 00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:43,370 We had those major storms that came through between Christmas and the New Year. 536 00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:51,730 And so we've added a set of slides in there to talk about how those storms turned out and the effects of the river and 537 00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:56,250 As of our operations, I won't give away too much of what Jesse's sharing, but 538 00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:59,230 you'll see that pretty remarkable actions were taken. 539 00:40:59,490 --> 00:41:02,410 I was updating you in terms of the river levels. 540 00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:07,130 I want to applaud our sister utility TID and their staff beginning with Brad and 541 00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:10,970 two and their hydrologist Olivia, as you'll see in the slides. 542 00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:15,530 A lot of action was taken to balance our precious water resources. 543 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:19,930 And we didn't have perfect foresight, but we came pretty darn close to it, 544 00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:25,070 given the actions we took in what ultimately materialized in these storms, Jesse. 545 00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:29,930 Yeah, you were coming and when all that was developing, you guys were on top of it. 546 00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:31,430 It looked like you guys did a good job. 547 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:32,370 Anyway, go ahead, Jesse. 548 00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:36,390 All right, good morning, members of the board, members of staff, members of the public, 549 00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:39,570 Jesse Franco, civil engineering manager for water operations. 550 00:41:40,190 --> 00:41:47,010 He had to provide a water supply report, which will be, this is basically the segue into the next coming months, 551 00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:53,090 weeks as we present more water supply reports leading into what will ultimately be recommendations 552 00:41:53,090 --> 00:41:59,790 and a determination for the 2026 irrigation allocation. So this really is kind of setting 553 00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:06,050 the stage for those discussions and ultimately the determination. So this morning we want 554 00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:10,650 to spend some time obviously talking about precipitation storage and as General Manager Jimmy 555 00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:15,470 mentioned we're going to do just do a recent storm recap and then we have just a few updates 556 00:42:15,470 --> 00:42:17,550 It's on SIGMON or our Strogbo efforts, 557 00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:19,850 and then some last miscellaneous items. 558 00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:23,460 So beginning with precipitation, 559 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480 we've got basically two charts to share here. 560 00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:28,760 First one is the San Joaquin precipitation, 561 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,300 that's the five station index. 562 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,340 Currently we are trending at 21.2 inches 563 00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:37,040 with respect to the San Joaquin index, 564 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,320 152% above average. 565 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,180 So I mean, this is set in the stage 566 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:44,120 that we have had some really good precipitation events 567 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,040 that have come in. 568 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:53,480 You can see that we are trending above average currently with still some months to go, but so far so good with with respect to the San Joaquin index. 569 00:42:55,140 --> 00:43:02,980 And then shifting on to a more focused 12ly river watershed, which we are right now at 19.4 inches. Again, really promising. 570 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040 We are 128.6% above for this state. 571 00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:11,640 So again, you can see that we are trending in a really good projection. 572 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:18,860 Those projected lines starting with the top is if we were to encounter a very wet from here on. 573 00:43:19,420 --> 00:43:23,000 You can see that that starts to accumulate really quick and quite substantially. 574 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,880 Followed by the second, which is a green, that's an average year. 575 00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:33,300 And then you can see that orange, which is basically the fourth, is still pretty good. 576 00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:38,540 Even if we had drive from this moment on, we're still in a very pretty good trend. 577 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:43,100 massing close leads to 20-25, so last year's. 578 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,020 This is just kind of a heat sensitivity showing our precipitation over the last couple months. 579 00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:55,100 Again, we're within that 100% to 200% range, again, 580 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,420 really promising precipitation over the last couple months. 581 00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:06,570 And then this is a basic depiction of just showing basically an actual versus historical 582 00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:08,970 over the last couple months, beginning with October. 583 00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:14,130 October, October, we had a pretty good month with our actual precipitation being above historical. 584 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:17,390 That trend followed in November again with above. 585 00:44:18,010 --> 00:44:19,430 November was really great. 586 00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:24,330 We had that 5.64 inches that were compared to historical, 3.42. 587 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:28,710 And then in December, again, we had some really, really good storm events that came through. 588 00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:31,010 Not quite historical, but again, really good. 589 00:44:31,570 --> 00:44:36,350 Right now, we are sitting just in the first couple of weeks of January at Shive the Historical. 590 00:44:36,350 --> 00:44:44,890 We don't know if we'll hit historical this month, but again, at least the first couple months have been really a really solid projection or at least yield so far. 591 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:59,960 Looking at the 9-day local forecast, no precipitation is anticipated. Temperatures are actually pretty moderate, so nothing in the immediate forecast, which is helpful from a standpoint of 592 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,780 ordinance, our ordinance crews are out there, prime weather to get all our construction activities done. So at least we've got kind of a, you know, breather, so to speak until the next storm starts to make their way through. 593 00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:31,760 And then kind of shifting gears into our snowpack. Currently, we are 37% of what the April 1st average is. And we are sitting right now just shy 89% of normal for for the date of this time of year. So again, I mean, we're good. We still got some some months to go. But at least we're 594 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,840 on a, I think on at least a positive trajectory, so that's good. 595 00:45:37,330 --> 00:45:41,910 So with our snow water content, we are currently sitting in just a 10.8 inches. 596 00:45:42,490 --> 00:45:47,710 So again, you can kind of see that's just a, we're currently in our average, is what 597 00:45:47,710 --> 00:45:48,830 we're seeing, so which is good. 598 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,440 And then this kind of shows you just how, how we were sitting before the storm events and 599 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,000 then post. 600 00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:02,480 So prior to the storm that came through during the holiday season, we're sitting around 601 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:10,300 You can see on the right-hand side, we were trending about the 80,000 acre feet with respect to snow water equivalent. 602 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:17,700 After those storms came through, now that has actually jumped us up to 400,000 acre feet of snow water equivalent. 603 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:25,680 So those were substantially needed and kind of helped us to realize that jump in snow water equivalent. 604 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,440 Don 605 00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:39,100 Pedro currently is at 80% capacity and so this is as of this was based on January 6th we were looking at 606 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:48,360 an elevation of 795.35 with a storage of 1.6 million and that has since jumped up to I think an elevation of 797. 607 00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:58,640 But again we are currently now in the still still got some months to go but at least right now we're in a healthy position with respect to storage. 608 00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,540 And 609 00:47:01,970 --> 00:47:04,910 this just goes to show kind of our reservoir storage currently. 610 00:47:05,410 --> 00:47:15,590 Last report, Modesto Reservoir, we were looking at 17,000, just above 17,000 acre feet as of January 13th. 611 00:47:15,610 --> 00:47:24,530 Modesto Reservoir has since been lowered, but that's also attributed to an outage that we experienced in December to get some work done and inspections. 612 00:47:24,530 --> 00:47:31,670 But currently, Modesto Reservoir is sitting at just shy of 17,000 acre feet in elevation of 20.60. 613 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:42,310 Don Pedro, and this is MID's portion, last report, we are at 394,000, just about, just shortly about that, an elevation of 790.96. 614 00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:51,410 And currently, at least as of January 13th, we are at 413,000, an elevation of 795.35. 615 00:47:51,410 --> 00:48:00,230 So total storage currently for MIDs portion is sitting at 430,477 acre feet. 616 00:48:01,250 --> 00:48:05,530 And so in comparison to last year, we are sitting in a much higher position, which is great. 617 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,580 Now we're shifting gears to the storm events that we experienced during the holiday season. 618 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,460 And this is when you start looking at this, it'll start telling the stories. 619 00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:17,740 We start looking at these numbers. 620 00:48:17,740 --> 00:48:27,100 So prior to these are the forecasts that our team at TID was seeing, the forecast for projecting, starting at December 17th, 621 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:32,600 8-day forecasts were showing upwards to a 12-inch precipitation event accumulation. 622 00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:40,280 Looking at the 16-day, there were some variants in there, they were looking at a 12-inch to 15-inch. 623 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:46,540 So, at that time, you know, the projections where we were going to get a lot of water coming 624 00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:48,320 down in a very short period of time. 625 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:54,000 And so, when you start looking at the December 18, those projections started to increase. 626 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,980 Eight day forecasts went from 9 to 12 to 8 to 20. 627 00:48:59,620 --> 00:49:03,100 On the 16-day forecast, they were going from 9 inches to 24 inches. 628 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,820 So you could see that the amount of water that was being forecasted was substantial. 629 00:49:07,820 --> 00:49:12,400 So to help kind of put this into perspective and that trend was continuing over the next 630 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,040 couple of days from December 19th to the 20th to the 21st, these were all the forecasts 631 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,660 that were anticipated to come through. 632 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:23,820 So we started looking at and working with our team at TID have just been a phenomenal and 633 00:49:24,420 --> 00:49:25,340 providing the projections. 634 00:49:25,340 --> 00:49:27,240 This is what we'd be looking at. 635 00:49:27,380 --> 00:49:33,840 So starting at that December 17th, the 8-day forecast was the 9-inch, 12-inch this graph 636 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,380 for showing the 16-day forecast, which is the 15-inch. 637 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:45,100 So if that 15-inch is worth to have yielded out, basically, this graph is showing how fast 638 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:51,480 wood those inflows start coming in, how soon would they breach or encroach over our 639 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:57,480 flood space, and we are required anytime we breach 801, an elevation of 801, we have 15 days 640 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,960 to exit that flood space. 641 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:05,360 So if you look at that, this top curve shows, okay, if we were releasing at 3,000 cubic feet per second, 642 00:50:05,780 --> 00:50:09,580 we wouldn't hit that target of exiting the flood space within 15 days. 643 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,080 So then you start looking at the different iterations. 644 00:50:12,820 --> 00:50:19,780 If you start looking at a release of 5,500 cubic feet per second, you're still not going to meet that exit of 15 days. 645 00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:26,320 So then ultimately the decision was made to increase river releases to 7,500 cubic feet per second, 646 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,580 which will allow that 16-day exit out of the flood space. 647 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,540 So when the storms actually started to occur, 648 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,440 they were looking at the start date of around, 649 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,800 basically Christmas, 12-24, 650 00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:40,240 giving the exit date of January 11th or 12th. 651 00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:42,640 So again, a lot of water coming in was anticipated 652 00:50:43,060 --> 00:50:44,400 and you got to move that water out. 653 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,840 So that was the 15-inch projection. 654 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,620 The second scenario that was looked at was, 655 00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,340 if there was a 24-inch, 656 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,460 24-inch was expected to come in, 657 00:50:55,460 --> 00:51:00,900 Again, you could see that at a release of 3,000, room releases of 3,000, we would be 658 00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,500 looking at opening up the spillway, not something that we were on and considered. 659 00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:08,720 So again, these are, it's telling the story of what the risk would have been. 660 00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:14,640 Had we not increased the real, the room releases at a 5,500, again, we're not going to see 661 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,140 that 16-day exit, exit time. 662 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:24,740 The third line there is the 7,500, which again would be close to meeting that exit timeframe 663 00:51:24,740 --> 00:51:28,000 and then the last one is as if we had to go to 9,000. 664 00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,540 So those were the different options that were considered, 665 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,020 which ultimately led to the decisions of, 666 00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:35,940 this is the breakdown of the flood control river releases. 667 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,700 So you can see on January or December 15th, 668 00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:40,760 we were sitting at pretty normal. 669 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,100 Then the forecast started to come in. 670 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,600 River releases were then increased on December 16th to 600 671 00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:50,500 and then ramped up from that point on, 672 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,020 started to ramp up pretty significantly. 673 00:51:52,380 --> 00:51:53,940 And again, this was all based on the forecast 674 00:51:53,940 --> 00:52:00,760 of either a 15 inch or a 24 inch coming in, we had to make sure that enough that water was being 675 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:08,680 moved out within that 15 day period. And then it ramped up on December 17 to 3,000, December 18 to 676 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:16,560 5,500, December 19 to 6,500, and then it peaked on December 20. By that time forecast, it started to 677 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,800 shift a bit. We started to see that the numbers started to drop and then we were at least 678 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,260 was confident enough to know and notify MID that the releases were going to start to reduce. 679 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,980 And from that, you start to see the step down of starting on the 21st, 680 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:38,440 ramping back down to 6500, on the 22nd, down to 5500, down to 23rd, 3400, 681 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,240 and then Christmas Eve to 2300, and then you start to see that projection. 682 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,840 So by the 27th, we were back into normal releases. 683 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,640 So again, it was just kind of making that way, 684 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,440 based on the information and the data that was coming in. 685 00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:56,940 This was the best decision that based on risk and exposure. 686 00:53:00,340 --> 00:53:09,120 So just to recap that, so the storm and forecast were essentially a period from December 16th that spanned to January 8th. 687 00:53:09,140 --> 00:53:14,300 Starting elevation prior to the storms was 790.96 at Non-Pedro. 688 00:53:14,940 --> 00:53:19,320 The ending elevation on January 8th was 795.8. 689 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:25,040 Had we not done any releases, we would have encroached up to an elevation of 804.9. 690 00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:34,480 The total river releases in excess of our minimum requirement was 78,000 acre feet, but 691 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,720 given the scenario, even though we didn't see those higher swings of 15 inch and 24 inch, 692 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,260 we still would have had to release this water regardless. 693 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,400 So regardless, based on the actuals, this is the amount that we had to release and we would 694 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:54,620 had to release it anyway. There was no way for us to keep it. It would just be a longer 695 00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:56,300 period of time that we were releasing it. 696 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,020 And then a shift in gears over to our Sustainable 697 00:54:03,020 --> 00:54:11,200 Groundwater Management Acts. We do have the GSA meeting on January 28th. And as part 698 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,780 of that meeting we are scheduled to approve and adopt the well mitigation plan and the groundwater 699 00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:19,940 use management program. They were both required under the revised groundwater 700 00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:26,280 water sustainability plan and then lastly cloud seating events we've actually had seven 701 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:32,040 seating events as of today and then salmon passage there was a period of time where we weren't 702 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:40,610 getting some readings but as of January 6th we were looking at 3,725 and with that we can't 703 00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:47,270 happy to answer any questions that you might have. More than a question or comment I think should 704 00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:55,190 be made. So when we did those releases in December and we peaked at seven to eight thousand cubic 705 00:54:55,190 --> 00:55:01,710 feet per second. I will say that I had phone calls from people or two people along the 706 00:55:01,710 --> 00:55:08,710 Twalamy River that were concerned with the releases, but I would say to sum it up, better 707 00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:15,490 safe than sorry. Yeah, absolutely. Because the options would have not been good. And one more 708 00:55:15,490 --> 00:55:22,490 thing I got to compliment the districts on how they did that releasing. They were in fact in 709 00:55:22,490 --> 00:55:30,050 touch with us every 24 hours. It wasn't like, well look at it next week or you know so I appreciate 710 00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:37,970 that and because that way we I know we gave up 78,000 acre feet but the alternative would have not been 711 00:55:37,970 --> 00:55:47,050 good. So in the big picture of everything, 78,000 acre feet is a lot of water, but better, 712 00:55:47,790 --> 00:56:01,930 safe than sorry. So I appreciate that. One question. When TID makes this decision with 713 00:56:01,930 --> 00:56:08,270 our staff together or do they make a decision and then contact our staff we're 714 00:56:08,270 --> 00:56:12,730 going to do this. Since they are the lead and the operator of Dom Pedro they take 715 00:56:12,730 --> 00:56:15,930 that decision on but they are quick to inform us though this is what we're 716 00:56:15,930 --> 00:56:19,430 looking at. Okay fair enough. Hey thank you for the 717 00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:24,450 sure thank you for that. No I just throw a couple comments out there too and 718 00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:28,730 Craig me if I'm wrong a little bit on this Jesse. Same thing with Larry and they 719 00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:32,310 They ran a big cup of real close on this, did an excellent job. 720 00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:37,270 Also two of the other thing that's not mentioned in here that they have to take into consideration 721 00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:41,730 is the watershed and what's going to land in the dry creek watershed. 722 00:56:42,430 --> 00:56:48,430 So you have to get above that out of there quicker so that we can allow dry creek, which is uncontrolled 723 00:56:49,010 --> 00:56:49,930 to flow out. 724 00:56:50,090 --> 00:56:54,770 So everything below dry creek and twalmy confidence doesn't get flooded out also. 725 00:56:54,770 --> 00:56:59,970 So, there's a lot of planning between what the forecast is going to hit for dry creek 726 00:56:59,970 --> 00:57:05,670 and for the watershed for Dom Pedro and the Twainley watershed that goes back and forth 727 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:07,950 that equates to what they're going to release also. 728 00:57:08,830 --> 00:57:12,830 You're absolutely right, you know, I think dry creek tends to be pretty flashy, meaning 729 00:57:12,830 --> 00:57:16,570 that it's unpredictable so you don't know how much, I mean, you've got your projections 730 00:57:16,570 --> 00:57:20,430 of how much water's going to come through or could come through and so you're right, there's 731 00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:23,870 a balance between how much can be released, when it can be released, when does dry creek 732 00:57:23,870 --> 00:57:25,170 we can anticipate to be released. 733 00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:27,850 Ultimately, it's all a culmination 734 00:57:27,850 --> 00:57:31,530 of where it ties into all of me right at the 9th Street Bridge area 735 00:57:31,530 --> 00:57:34,170 so that you're not exceeding that flood level. 736 00:57:37,550 --> 00:57:39,570 I agree with what Larry and John said, 737 00:57:39,730 --> 00:57:42,690 staff did, I think, a great job in managing this event. 738 00:57:43,010 --> 00:57:44,390 So kudos to staff. 739 00:57:44,930 --> 00:57:47,430 I have a question in regards to cloud seating. 740 00:57:47,710 --> 00:57:47,950 Sure. 741 00:57:48,130 --> 00:57:50,050 How many more events are scheduled this year? 742 00:57:51,410 --> 00:57:54,770 I think it really depends on weather conditions. 743 00:57:54,770 --> 00:58:01,810 We've got X amount that's budgeted, and so basically, they run as many events that they can within their budget. 744 00:58:02,810 --> 00:58:10,450 So at this point, I think last year, gosh, we've got Lou Crawford who's our senior civil in Jose. 745 00:58:11,690 --> 00:58:14,670 Makera, did we have about 10 to 12 last? 746 00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:21,770 I'm going to say that we've quickly suspended file seeding in December because of the 747 00:58:21,770 --> 00:58:28,250 amount of precipitation that's coming in, TIE, suspended file seeding, the contact 748 00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:28,830 of our vendor. 749 00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:36,290 This is suspended until the precipitation event that passed, and so now we're back on, 750 00:58:36,450 --> 00:58:39,530 but we're not going to be right now because of the forecast. 751 00:58:40,550 --> 00:58:40,710 Yeah. 752 00:58:41,110 --> 00:58:42,310 That kind of answer is my question. 753 00:58:42,310 --> 00:58:49,090 Is it, I'm assuming we're contracted out for the year, but do we have the flexibility to pull out of that? 754 00:58:49,410 --> 00:58:52,490 I mean, it's clear to me that it looks, I think we're going to fill the reservoir. 755 00:58:52,690 --> 00:58:57,270 So why are we paying to go do cloud seeding when we know we're going to be dumping water? 756 00:58:57,930 --> 00:58:59,850 So do we have that flexibility to get out of that? 757 00:59:00,110 --> 00:59:00,430 We do. 758 00:59:00,810 --> 00:59:03,550 So usually, again, that's based on the decision of what we're seeing, 759 00:59:03,550 --> 00:59:07,270 what the forecast are showing, where we're sitting from a hydrological standpoint, 760 00:59:07,270 --> 00:59:14,470 point, and then there's that flexibility to either halt, see any additional flights and 761 00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:19,890 just wait, or if there is an opportunity, maybe we delay it until, you know, a little 762 00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:20,270 bit later. 763 00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:20,970 Okay. 764 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:21,610 Thank you. 765 00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:22,010 Sure. 766 00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:24,870 All good? 767 00:59:25,930 --> 00:59:27,890 One more comment. 768 00:59:28,290 --> 00:59:28,890 She came to mind. 769 00:59:28,890 --> 00:59:29,810 So, 770 00:59:33,490 --> 00:59:51,870 just so the public under the the dry creek issues that John was talking about, dry creek when you're getting three to five inches in the food hills, dry creek is going to we got up to 5,000 acre feet per second was cubic feet per second going down dry creek. 771 00:59:52,210 --> 00:59:56,890 So as fast as it comes up it goes down just almost as fast. 772 00:59:56,890 --> 00:59:59,350 So, we're talking instead of days. 773 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,660 We're talking hours which they do a good job of managing that because they can tell that one 774 01:00:05,660 --> 01:00:11,000 more thing. At right now, I think the Modesto B said we're at seven point, some inches 775 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:18,320 here at our range age at the MID building. So east of Waterford, between Waterford and 776 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:27,420 LeVrange, we're at 12.88 today. So as you go up, as you keep going up, you're going to get 777 01:00:27,420 --> 01:00:34,360 more precipitation. Those clouds hit those foothills. And then even if you grow up 10th miles 778 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:42,640 above the range, they've got another four or five inches above that. So just so you everybody 779 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:49,500 understands. That's why that all comes together like it does. And anyway, I'm done, but thank you, 780 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,860 thank you, Jesse for that today. Yeah. And again, just as our general manager, Jimmy mentioned, 781 01:00:53,860 --> 01:00:57,280 and you know, a big kudos to our TID team. 782 01:00:57,460 --> 01:01:00,280 They have been, you know, they're really great to work with. 783 01:01:00,540 --> 01:01:03,000 Very informative, they keep us, you know, in the loop 784 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,180 and provide any data that we need and request. 785 01:01:06,860 --> 01:01:08,200 So it's a team effort, definitely. 786 01:01:08,460 --> 01:01:09,680 So, you know, we appreciate them. 787 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,400 Okay. 788 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,660 Thank you, Jesse, that was an excellent report. 789 01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:15,920 You've done an excellent job. 790 01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:17,600 The only thing we need is a little bit more snow. 791 01:01:17,980 --> 01:01:18,160 Sure. 792 01:01:18,460 --> 01:01:19,040 Can you work on it? 793 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,340 Can you do anything about that, Jesse? 794 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:20,720 We'll try. 795 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,980 Okay, let me know. 796 01:01:21,980 --> 01:01:29,720 All right. Thank you, Jesse. Let's move on. Would anybody like to take a break for a five-minute break, 797 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:30,680 restroom break, whatever? 798 01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:39,460 No? Okay. Moving along, let's go on to the presentation and possible 799 01:01:39,460 --> 01:01:49,720 action of the well mitigation and the ground-water use management plan. Are you going to do that, too, Jesse? 800 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,340 Correct, yeah, here we go again. 801 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,740 All right, a roll. 802 01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:56,540 All right, again, for those members of the public, 803 01:01:56,740 --> 01:01:58,260 Jesse Franco, civil engineering manager, 804 01:01:58,580 --> 01:02:00,240 and this is a different, this is our, 805 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,240 that's a sub-basin, well mitigation plan, 806 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:04,080 and groundwater use management program. 807 01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:07,140 It's a presentation, but also for potential action 808 01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:08,260 for the board to consider. 809 01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:13,280 So starting the first couple slides are a lot of just background 810 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,740 behind where it is that we are currently at and why. 811 01:02:17,420 --> 01:02:19,700 So beginning in September of 2014, 812 01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:24,620 This is when Governor Jerry Brown signed legislative, creating the Sustainable Groundwater 813 01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:29,580 Management Act referred to as SIGMA, which essentially provided local groundwater sustainability 814 01:02:29,580 --> 01:02:35,980 agencies with the authority and technical and financial assistance necessary to start managing 815 01:02:35,980 --> 01:02:38,760 groundwater effectively and sustainably. 816 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:45,280 DWR required the groundwater sustainability agency submits a groundwater sustainability plan 817 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,180 by January of 30 January 31st of 2022. 818 01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:53,640 In August of 2017, the Stanislaus 819 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,460 and 12 New Rivers Groundwater Basin Association, 820 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,760 Groundwater Sustainability Agency referred to as Sturdba, GSA, 821 01:03:01,620 --> 01:03:04,080 authorized Todd Groundwater to prepare and submit 822 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,800 the Modesto Subbasin Groundwater Sustainability Plan 823 01:03:07,290 --> 01:03:08,560 referred to as the GSP. 824 01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:12,540 In January of 31st, January 31st of 2022, 825 01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:16,600 Todd Groundwater submitted the Modesto Subbasin GSP 826 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,260 to DWR on behalf of the Sturgba GSA. 827 01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:23,780 And then on January 18th of 2024, 828 01:03:24,660 --> 01:03:27,120 DWR provided a notification to Sturgba 829 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,480 that the GSP was considered incomplete. 830 01:03:31,060 --> 01:03:32,840 They highlighted some deficiencies 831 01:03:33,530 --> 01:03:37,260 and ultimately notified that the GSA had to submit 832 01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:42,120 a revised GSP by July 16th of 2024. 833 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,660 So I think what's important to note is we've got, 834 01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:52,440 we had a pretty tight time frame once we got the notification from DWR that the GSP had 835 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:58,400 to be revised to not only correct the deficiencies but to implement two significant programs. 836 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:08,520 So the revised MNESO sub-basin was submitted to DWR on July 12th of 2024 and subsequently 837 01:04:09,220 --> 01:04:11,760 approved on February 27th of 2025. 838 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:19,440 As part of that GSP, the revised GSP DWR required a firm commitment from Sturdbut to 839 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,780 develop a well mitigation plan and also management actions to address and mitigate impacts 840 01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:26,280 from groundwater level declines. 841 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:32,000 And as part of that, commitments, there are basically two significant plans, programs 842 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:32,720 that were required. 843 01:04:33,180 --> 01:04:39,440 First being the well mitigation plan to help address any potable wells that were impacted 844 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,980 through groundwater management and then secondly it was management actions but specifically 845 01:04:43,980 --> 01:04:46,260 related to groundwater use management program. 846 01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:50,960 So these are the two items that are being presented this morning. 847 01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:56,600 The will mitigation plan provides a framework for the following elements. 848 01:04:56,940 --> 01:05:01,720 First, it's an application process that defines what the parameters are, should the landowner 849 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,800 start experiencing declines or impacts or they're part of a well, there's an application 850 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:12,460 process that's that walks them through it. Secondly, it establishes a well mitigation 851 01:05:12,460 --> 01:05:18,100 program committee and technical review committee that oversees the application and the claim 852 01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:23,700 process. Now the members of these two respective committees are members of the GSA and also 853 01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:28,260 management area stewards. So as we start taking this, this is the framework but as we start 854 01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:32,500 looking at and carrying it down into the details, these committee members will be either, 855 01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:35,100 you 856 01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:40,720 agencies, City of Waterford, City of Modesto, City of Oakdale, Riverbank, Stanslaus County, 857 01:05:41,140 --> 01:05:44,900 MID, OID, so those are the makeup of the committees. 858 01:05:45,860 --> 01:05:48,980 The circuit GSA will be contracting with self-help enterprises. 859 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,220 There are third party that will actually serve as screening the applications, looking through 860 01:05:54,220 --> 01:05:58,980 them, making sure that they actually qualify, and then assisting with well assessment and 861 01:05:58,980 --> 01:05:59,960 actually well replacement. 862 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:00,840 The 863 01:06:03,590 --> 01:06:08,330 well mitigation plan also provides a commitment for funding, initial and long-term. 864 01:06:09,030 --> 01:06:14,430 The initial funding that was required by DWR consisted of 300,000 and that was essentially 865 01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:19,350 looking towards replacing 29 wells that might be impacted. 866 01:06:19,790 --> 01:06:24,490 I think since then out of the 29, this was first drafted out of the 29, that number has 867 01:06:24,490 --> 01:06:30,030 actually been reduced to about 15 wells that might be impacted and again just to disclose 868 01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:31,510 these are wells that could be. 869 01:06:31,610 --> 01:06:34,150 They are not currently impacted, but could be impacted. 870 01:06:34,850 --> 01:06:39,170 And so they are at least on the horizon for potential applicants. 871 01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:41,590 The Strip of GSA. 872 01:06:42,050 --> 01:06:42,670 The wells correct. 873 01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:44,330 Correct, domestic wells correct. 874 01:06:44,570 --> 01:06:45,630 Domestic wells, yes, thank you. 875 01:06:46,170 --> 01:06:47,390 Yeah, absolutely, domestic wells. 876 01:06:48,250 --> 01:06:50,910 And then the Strip of GSA respective agencies 877 01:06:50,910 --> 01:06:54,410 are gonna set aside annual funds for this program. 878 01:06:54,450 --> 01:06:56,170 This is part of the long-term program. 879 01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:58,850 Implementation of the well-medication plan 880 01:06:58,850 --> 01:07:05,430 And how this funds will be dispersed will actually start, once the application process begins and 881 01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:10,070 we start fielding some of these requests, then we'll determine how the funds will be distributed. 882 01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:16,570 I think at this point most of the agencies are seeing, initially we put together this shared pot, but 883 01:07:16,570 --> 01:07:24,210 I think as discussions have started to pan out, I think right now I think the plan is for 884 01:07:24,210 --> 01:07:29,370 these funds to be disperse through a management area, meaning that those, the agencies, the 885 01:07:29,370 --> 01:07:35,270 funds within that, the wells that are impacted within certain management areas, those agencies 886 01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:41,490 would commit to those wells as opposed to the shared pot. It's more of a focused pot focused 887 01:07:41,490 --> 01:07:42,370 on management areas. 888 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:51,280 Do you want to wait till you're done before we ask if you don't mind because I want to go 889 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,960 back to that, what you just said to that point, okay, when you're done. 890 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:59,320 Okay. And then shifting to the Groundwater Use Management Program, that provides a framework 891 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:04,580 to allocate the sustainable yield of the MEDESO sub-basin by management area. And basically 892 01:08:04,580 --> 01:08:09,080 what the say is sustainable yield is how much groundwater, what's the maximum groundwater 893 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:14,220 that can be extracted without creating negative impacts. So that's what the sustainable yield 894 01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:19,840 refers to. The Groundwater Use Management Program also allows each management area steward 895 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,540 to take actions, to allocate the management areas portion of the sustainable yield and 896 01:08:25,540 --> 01:08:28,440 make sure that it's meeting their requirements. 897 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,720 So again, it's essentially that it's not a one-size-fits-all. 898 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,560 Each respective management area will have its allocation are re-responsible to making 899 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,780 sure they're within that sustainable yield amount. 900 01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:45,120 And then lastly, it's an adaptive plan that provides management areas stewards with different 901 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,940 tools, different types of options that can be considered. 902 01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:52,120 And there's an implementation schedule that they will be looking at and 903 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,420 be required to fulfill. 904 01:08:53,780 --> 01:08:58,640 So the first implementation actually starts January 31st of 2027. 905 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,580 So we still have a good amount of work to lay out with respect to details. 906 01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:09,420 After the 2027 implementation schedule starts, there will be five year check-ins. 907 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,980 So beginning in 2032, that'll be a check-in. 908 01:09:13,180 --> 01:09:16,980 2037, ultimately, we have to reach sustainability by 2042. 909 01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:21,720 So these, these schedule, milestone schedules that need to be met, evaluated to make sure 910 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,920 that the action plans are actually producing sustainability. 911 01:09:28,590 --> 01:09:32,710 And then this is pulled out of the actual ground water use management program. 912 01:09:32,770 --> 01:09:38,390 This table is the baseline for the Modesto Subbasin, so you can see Modesto Management Area currently, 913 01:09:38,490 --> 01:09:40,550 what it's projecting, it takes our developed supply. 914 01:09:40,730 --> 01:09:45,090 This is the amount that we take, and then actually, they're contributing back into the ground 915 01:09:45,090 --> 01:09:49,930 on water table, either through sea beach or percolation or things like that. 916 01:09:50,650 --> 01:09:57,610 And then it takes our special cases and overlying use as those also in which are basically 917 01:09:57,610 --> 01:10:00,310 diminimists, municipal use users. 918 01:10:00,850 --> 01:10:05,870 Our total allocation for the Modesto area is 162,900 acre feet. 919 01:10:06,530 --> 01:10:10,590 Our total historical pumping is 173,000 acre feet. 920 01:10:10,590 --> 01:10:15,830 So the reduction that we're looking at is a 10,000, 10,100 acre feet. 921 01:10:16,650 --> 01:10:20,090 So overall, we'll have a total allocation of 90% of our historical. 922 01:10:20,430 --> 01:10:22,450 So without putting us at a 6% reduction. 923 01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:24,510 Again, this is baseline. 924 01:10:25,130 --> 01:10:29,670 You can see that Oakdale, the management area, they actually have more water available. 925 01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:36,510 So I think leading into the discussions, Oakdale, OID, has been at this point, 926 01:10:36,510 --> 01:10:43,770 It's been open to distributing their 22,700 to the Modesto area as well as a non-district 927 01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:50,170 ease for a transitional time to help these two areas rebound a little bit and achieve 928 01:10:50,170 --> 01:10:50,830 this reduction. 929 01:10:52,330 --> 01:10:53,730 So again, it's the framework. 930 01:10:54,370 --> 01:10:57,290 This is the, basically, this is where, this is the goal. 931 01:10:58,150 --> 01:11:01,110 There's still some, you know, we've got a year to kind of iron out the details. 932 01:11:01,270 --> 01:11:05,770 That's going to be dependent on the management areas and the management area stewards to develop 933 01:11:05,770 --> 01:11:12,830 the action plans and the schedules based on looking at the interim milestones, minimum thresholds, 934 01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:16,490 and making sure they're on par to meet the sustainable goals. 935 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:26,500 So, the recommended, this is potential action that is being set before you is a board resolution 936 01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:32,080 that is adopting both the well mitigation plan and the groundwater use management program 937 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:38,440 In the sub-minus of sub-basin and authorizing the Sturgood GSA and the consultants, take 938 01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:44,500 such actions as maybe necessary to finalize these documents, barring any substantive changes 939 01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:47,160 to the documents and submitting to the DWR. 940 01:11:48,060 --> 01:11:54,620 Alternatively, we can, the board can wait and we can represent this back on the 27th. 941 01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,020 I'm sure the boards have any questions. 942 01:11:57,020 --> 01:12:06,280 We do also disclose that the other respective agencies are scheduled to bring these to their board members or council in the next coming weeks. 943 01:12:06,940 --> 01:12:24,760 OID is presenting this today as well as the City of Modesto, City of Water referred as presenting on Thursday, next week, City of Riverbank is presenting next Tuesday, and then the Stanislaus County and the City of Oakdale are, I take that back, City of Riverbank are on the 27th. 944 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,580 city of Oakdale's on on the 20th. 945 01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:35,380 Stanislaus County is all the respective agencies have had no additional comments to either one of these documents. 946 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,180 Stanislaus County is still currently reviewing the Groundwater Use Management Program. 947 01:12:40,580 --> 01:12:52,460 They have not submitted any comments yet, but if there are any that would be the only I think you basically change or add a change as they could result in that document. 948 01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:57,160 So with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions I do want to go back to you. 949 01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:59,280 Yeah, let's go back to that one issue that. 950 01:12:59,620 --> 01:12:59,760 Sure. 951 01:13:03,070 --> 01:13:03,510 Okay. 952 01:13:03,690 --> 01:13:10,090 You were discussing that as well as go dry, let's take, for example, a non-district lease. 953 01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:17,830 That the non-district lease, GSA members would be responsible to pay for those versus the 954 01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:20,010 medestinal management if a go well goes dry there. 955 01:13:20,210 --> 01:13:22,290 Is that how you're talking about dividing the cost up? 956 01:13:22,290 --> 01:13:25,150 So, that is some of the discussions we're having currently. 957 01:13:25,290 --> 01:13:27,050 Those are, we'll have to be finalized. 958 01:13:27,230 --> 01:13:29,470 This is the first step is establishing the framework. 959 01:13:30,010 --> 01:13:34,370 The second step is how we're actually going to actually implement a lot of the details. 960 01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:40,850 The funding is going to be distributed, you know, either through management area or is this this shared pot? 961 01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:45,430 I think currently the discussions have been, at least from the other agencies, as well as MID, 962 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:50,690 our position is that we'd like to see it handle through a management area as opposed to this shared pot. 963 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:56,890 So to answer your question, if there is a potable well on non-district east, that is impacted 964 01:13:57,490 --> 01:14:02,730 than the management area stewards, which would be Stanislaus County, they would be the 965 01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:11,490 lead, and then non-district east, their representatives, whoever that group is, they would be essentially 966 01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:14,630 responsible for helping provide funding for that area. 967 01:14:15,190 --> 01:14:18,950 Now there are grant opportunities, you know, self-help enterprises does have a program 968 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:25,390 to help with within respective income levels, but if the applicant was outside of that, 969 01:14:25,390 --> 01:14:27,450 there would still be support from the GSA. 970 01:14:27,790 --> 01:14:32,090 So, if it was in the Modestal Management Area, which is basically the Modestal 971 01:14:32,090 --> 01:14:35,510 Irrigation District, it's correct, down-reline, right, okay. 972 01:14:35,630 --> 01:14:37,510 So, if it happened there, then it would be- 973 01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:44,070 So, the Modest so MID and City of Waterford would then take our funds to help with that, well. 974 01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:51,830 So I want to get this correct, I'm in favor of this program because of our deadline, okay? 975 01:14:52,530 --> 01:14:59,790 But what I want to be careful of here is we have a situation. 976 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980 Where people went up on the east side, which is a north district east, not mean non-district east, drove all kinds of wells, okay? And as you look at the charts, you can see, their contribution to ground water to recharge is zero. Their extraction is 90,000 acre feet. When you look at Oakdale Management Area, Modesto Management Area, we're basically balanced. They're the ones that are called 977 01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:39,880 the problems. Modesto, city, people should not be funding the damage that they're doing 978 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:46,420 to the aquifer. The MID ratepayers should not be funding the damage that they're doing 979 01:15:46,420 --> 01:15:53,480 to the ratepayers. Waterfers, very direct word. Your division is over in waterfers. You said 980 01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:59,360 a few months ago that you were accountable to 17,000 ratepayers for the money. Do you think 981 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:06,640 think it is appropriate for the water for people to have to fund well mitigation plans 982 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,620 for things that the non-district east have done to the aquifer. 983 01:16:24,530 --> 01:16:27,890 Okay, I take that as for what it is. 984 01:16:29,250 --> 01:16:30,390 I want to read you some. 985 01:16:31,930 --> 01:16:32,990 I can find it. 986 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,860 This was an article in the Los Angeles Times a couple days ago. 987 01:16:42,970 --> 01:16:51,610 One of the largest farming businesses in Arizona has agreed to use less water and pay 988 01:16:51,610 --> 01:16:59,130 $11 million in a deal that state officials say will help preserve disappearing groundwater 989 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:05,730 and provide financial help for residents whose wells have gone dry. 990 01:17:07,670 --> 01:17:14,450 Attorney Arizona Attorney General Chris Mayer has announced the binding legal agreement 991 01:17:14,450 --> 01:17:20,930 with Minnesota-based dairy company, Riverview, LLP on Thursday calling the first of its 992 01:17:20,930 --> 01:17:21,710 kind in the nation. 993 01:17:22,710 --> 01:17:29,770 In other words, this is not a far-fetched idea to say, look who's responsible for this environmental 994 01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:31,010 disaster or aquifer. 995 01:17:31,010 --> 01:17:34,970 It's not the residents of Waterford. 996 01:17:35,650 --> 01:17:37,790 It's not the residents of Modesto. 997 01:17:38,830 --> 01:17:40,530 It's not the people of MIT. 998 01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:44,270 But right now we've just put up $300,000 999 01:17:44,270 --> 01:17:47,730 for those people that went on the east side, 1000 01:17:48,490 --> 01:17:51,210 ill advised, and have destroyed our aquifer. 1001 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:56,090 On the backs of you talk about, you know, the old saying of, 1002 01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:58,870 this makes me very mad, if you can tell. 1003 01:17:59,570 --> 01:18:03,750 because innocent people are getting stuck with a bill that they should not be. 1004 01:18:04,670 --> 01:18:09,630 This is about privatizing the profits. In other words, the people on the 1005 01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:12,970 east side that have their almond orchard, their almond orchard that stuck 1006 01:18:12,970 --> 01:18:18,430 these wells in the ground, sucking the water out, that privatize the profits and 1007 01:18:18,430 --> 01:18:22,450 expect everybody else to pay for the expenses of this. So that's 1008 01:18:22,450 --> 01:18:27,810 optimal. Sturgeon has tools, Sturgeon has rules that we can do exactly what 1009 01:18:27,810 --> 01:18:33,290 they're doing here in Arizona. And we need to work on that. The other member agencies 1010 01:18:33,290 --> 01:18:37,470 beside them, I hope my other colleagues on this board, we didn't hear Director Berg, 1011 01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:42,710 he was silent when I asked him the question. I hope my other fellow colleagues want to 1012 01:18:42,710 --> 01:18:48,290 push forward to hold the people responsible this so the innocent people of the rate pairs 1013 01:18:48,290 --> 01:18:53,350 in MIT and the city of Modesto, Riverbank, Oakdale, they're not stuck funding this bill. 1014 01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:56,270 So as it is, we've got a deadline. 1015 01:18:56,950 --> 01:19:02,170 So I'm going to kind of hold my nose as we move forward today, but we can modify this 1016 01:19:02,170 --> 01:19:02,950 as we go forward. 1017 01:19:03,070 --> 01:19:03,810 Isn't that correct, Jesse? 1018 01:19:04,830 --> 01:19:04,990 Correct. 1019 01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:05,510 Yeah. 1020 01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:10,950 I think at this point, we have met our obligation to the DWR with respect to establishing 1021 01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:11,830 the initial funding. 1022 01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:17,890 So as it is currently, there is $300,000 that is set aside for a well-medication plan. 1023 01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:18,190 Right. 1024 01:19:18,530 --> 01:19:22,990 And the commitment is that that will continue on an annual basis as needed to continue to 1025 01:19:22,990 --> 01:19:23,970 to contribute funds towards it. 1026 01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:26,470 But in other words, what I'm saying is we can modify 1027 01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:30,630 this existing plan in the future to hold people responsible 1028 01:19:31,130 --> 01:19:35,930 for the damage instead of the rate pay-in for it. 1029 01:19:36,190 --> 01:19:36,390 Correct. 1030 01:19:36,530 --> 01:19:39,670 You know what I think, ultimately, that comes down 1031 01:19:39,670 --> 01:19:40,490 to the GSA, right? 1032 01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:42,750 The GSA, you know, they are basically hearing 1033 01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:44,570 from their respective council members, 1034 01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:46,650 their board members, and I think each one 1035 01:19:46,650 --> 01:19:49,490 of these agencies, I think their position is, 1036 01:19:49,530 --> 01:19:52,050 look, we have to represent our constituents. 1037 01:19:52,830 --> 01:20:09,030 and I'm sure there's, you know, it's a delicate situation. On one hand, you know, there's the, we've got to make sure that we are looking out for the best interests of our constituents, our ratepayers, why should a burden be placed on them that is not caused by them? 1038 01:20:09,630 --> 01:20:10,770 So that is one position. 1039 01:20:10,770 --> 01:20:17,130 Right, my constituents are people that are inside the MID boundaries, the City of Modesto 1040 01:20:17,130 --> 01:20:18,470 and the City of Riverbank. 1041 01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:19,390 Those are mine. 1042 01:20:19,790 --> 01:20:27,290 Waterford is Director Burke's and I want to make sure and the boundaries are very clear. 1043 01:20:27,450 --> 01:20:33,390 If you look at the map, let's go back, if you want to scroll back, let's go to where's 1044 01:20:33,390 --> 01:20:33,930 the map at. 1045 01:20:34,110 --> 01:20:35,130 The map is on page. 1046 01:20:38,540 --> 01:20:40,280 You have the map of the... 1047 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,060 I do not have an air out in the presentation. 1048 01:20:42,820 --> 01:20:45,880 We have it in the actual program. 1049 01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:47,980 There's a map that shows it's different than in areas. 1050 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,260 I thought maybe you might have it in your slides, 1051 01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:52,880 so we could show it with the audience what it is. 1052 01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:53,600 We have it. 1053 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,180 Anyway, I think I made my point very clear 1054 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,020 that people that have done the damage need to be paying for it, 1055 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,400 not people that have not done the damage. 1056 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:07,080 Okay. 1057 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,100 That discusses my point that I want to bring out 1058 01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:15,680 about the well management program, does anybody else on the board want to talk about the well management program? 1059 01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:25,680 Just a few comments, I mean, I agree, I mean, we're under this time constraint and this is just the framework, right? 1060 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:34,320 I do see in here in this final slide it says, and it's consultants to take such actions as may be necessary to finalize these documents. 1061 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:43,520 So what we're voting on today, is it going to be changed before it is submitted to the state because I want to vote on what's 1062 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,660 being presented to the state. 1063 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:52,680 So as it stands, and Frank, I'm sure you can help me out, but as it stands currently, we have final versions of these two documents. 1064 01:21:53,520 --> 01:22:00,620 Now, I think what we wanted to do is, if there are minor changes, formatting changes, or minor inclusion, or minor clarification, 1065 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:06,880 rather than having to come back to the board for some minor change, that's what we included this clause. 1066 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:14,300 But if there is a substantial change that is being required or imposed either by the 1067 01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:19,860 county or any other agency or a member of the public, the goal would be we would come 1068 01:22:19,860 --> 01:22:23,400 back to the board and say, here are the changes that we've had to made. 1069 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:24,600 They are not minor. 1070 01:22:24,860 --> 01:22:25,400 They are substantial. 1071 01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:28,380 So this is approving what we have now. 1072 01:22:29,380 --> 01:22:33,640 With the caveat that there could be a minor change, you know, maybe there's a change in the 1073 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:33,860 date. 1074 01:22:33,860 --> 01:22:37,000 or a typo, it's correcting those types of things. 1075 01:22:37,460 --> 01:22:43,460 If there is a substantial change, sorry, then we would come back and 1076 01:22:43,460 --> 01:22:47,860 represent and let the board know that this has been, this document has been changed. 1077 01:22:48,380 --> 01:22:52,740 This was the change that was made and request your approval for adoption. 1078 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,920 And Director Alt, let me just jump in here. 1079 01:22:55,020 --> 01:23:00,920 So we discussed this a couple weeks ago, staff and I, and all the different agencies are taken as Jesse mentioned. 1080 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:06,000 There's several agencies that are going today and others that are coming in the in this week in the coming weeks. 1081 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,260 There was two schools that thought one was to wait to the end of the month. 1082 01:23:11,220 --> 01:23:15,540 We believed I think about a month ago that everybody we would be ready to go by this week. 1083 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,980 And so our thought was to bring it before you, it's listed as discussion and possible action. 1084 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:27,180 It's not my intent or staff that there's any substantial changes not to make you aware of those and bring them back before you. 1085 01:23:27,620 --> 01:23:31,900 But it's really listed this way by design, possible action. 1086 01:23:32,060 --> 01:23:34,860 If you'd like to wait to the 27th, that's certainly an option. 1087 01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:39,840 We've thought, the best to put it before you, we don't foresee any, but, again, 1088 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,960 it's out still for comments for one of the agencies to get back to us. 1089 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,840 But this is the best that we have now, and what we foresee is, if it's anything 1090 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,100 beyond cosmetic, that we would bring it back before you. 1091 01:23:51,860 --> 01:23:55,300 I just don't think that it's right that, and I think we should vote on it today. 1092 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,080 I don't think that it's right for the other agencies to wait till the last minute. 1093 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,920 and then throw it back on the 27th and ask for us to vote on that. 1094 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,860 You know, I'm okay with moving forward with it today. 1095 01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:08,440 I understand it's a framework. 1096 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,000 I don't agree with it 100%. 1097 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,160 It's a starting point. 1098 01:24:12,260 --> 01:24:15,160 We have to start and move forward at some point. 1099 01:24:17,060 --> 01:24:20,240 I just, I want to make sure that there are no changes 1100 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,240 that we're not aware of moving forward. 1101 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,220 And that can be subjective, right? 1102 01:24:26,220 --> 01:24:34,020 I mean, what you may say is a small change to one of us could be a big change. 1103 01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:38,060 So I think it just, you're going to clear on that. 1104 01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:43,680 Yeah, you're ultimately going to have to trust the discretion of staff, the resolution. 1105 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,740 And if you want to include this in emotion, just to make it absolutely clear on record, 1106 01:24:47,860 --> 01:24:54,220 you can do that, to prove the resolution is presented with the subject to any substantive changes. 1107 01:24:54,220 --> 01:25:02,600 I think it's essentially substantive and substantial, any substantive changes, any changes that change the purpose effect and function of the document. 1108 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:12,840 But yeah, there could be some gray area there, but I think that I think based on this conversation staffs can be very sensitive to anything that if it's closed, they'll bring it back. 1109 01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:27,620 Okay, I feel like we've kind of discussed the well management. 1110 01:25:27,620 --> 01:25:31,280 and let's talk along and talk about the groundwater 1111 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,140 the GUW MP. 1112 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,140 But we have, there's a board, has any questions about that. 1113 01:25:46,270 --> 01:25:48,170 We're confident that this is going to get us 1114 01:25:48,170 --> 01:25:49,370 to sustainability, Jesse. 1115 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,220 We have no choice, right? 1116 01:25:53,300 --> 01:25:56,060 OK, you know, when I review the documents and all 1117 01:25:56,060 --> 01:25:57,720 the work that Todd Groundwater's done, 1118 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,060 and I, you know, I see, you know, Oakdale, 1119 01:26:00,060 --> 01:26:08,720 is their basically develops a supply or imported water into aquifer is more than they're 1120 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:14,620 taken out. That's a first statement, right? And the Modesto Management Area is basically 1121 01:26:14,620 --> 01:26:20,680 real close to that. We're off 10,000 acre feeding. And again, you guys aren't seeing the map. 1122 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:28,840 So, the map is the Modesto Eriegation District, it's those exact lines, right, Jesse? 1123 01:26:30,020 --> 01:26:34,320 The map of the Modesto Eriegation District is the Modesto Management Area. 1124 01:26:35,580 --> 01:26:39,600 The Oakdale Management Area is the Oakdale Eriegation District, correct? 1125 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:40,740 Correct. 1126 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:48,640 And then the non-district east is, well, the non-district west is over on the west side, 1127 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:54,080 But then the non-district key says everything that's not either in OID or in MID, 1128 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,040 just so you guys have a picture of what the map looks like. 1129 01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:56,580 Okay. 1130 01:26:57,060 --> 01:27:05,440 So back to where I was at with OID at this point, it's sustainable, pursuant to the experts, 1131 01:27:06,620 --> 01:27:09,900 or the Oakdale Management Area is sustainable, pursuant to the experts, right? 1132 01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:15,460 And the Medeso Management Area is almost sustainable, pursuant to the experts, 1133 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:15,940 correct? 1134 01:27:15,940 --> 01:27:16,100 Correct. 1135 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:17,200 Correct. 1136 01:27:18,340 --> 01:27:21,200 Where they're not sustainable is the non-district east, 1137 01:27:23,390 --> 01:27:23,690 correct? 1138 01:27:24,270 --> 01:27:24,510 Correct. 1139 01:27:25,410 --> 01:27:30,630 So when you look at the developed supply on the non-district east, it's what, zero, 1140 01:27:33,820 --> 01:27:37,160 and their extraction is 90,000 acre feet a year, correct? 1141 01:27:38,580 --> 01:27:39,420 Just about. 1142 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:40,960 89,700. 1143 01:27:44,010 --> 01:27:53,470 So, they're required reduction to get into sustainability is, is it 59,600 is what they have 1144 01:27:53,470 --> 01:27:54,530 to reduce their pumping? 1145 01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:55,030 Correct. 1146 01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:56,010 Okay. 1147 01:27:56,490 --> 01:28:01,410 So, by this chart alone, it's very clear that that's, when you'd say, the experts of 1148 01:28:01,410 --> 01:28:06,370 term determined Oakdale Management Area is sustainable, has been sustainable all these 1149 01:28:06,370 --> 01:28:09,090 years, many, many years, for the last 100 years. 1150 01:28:09,090 --> 01:28:15,570 Modesto area is sustainable. It's declared by this statement to what I said earlier about who's causing the damages in North 1151 01:28:15,570 --> 01:28:26,730 District east or the non-district east. So and then we let's go to the very last page or almost the second to the last page. 1152 01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:32,390 Let's look at that chart. Now you got this in so small print. Can you put that up there? 1153 01:28:33,230 --> 01:28:33,730 Which one? 1154 01:28:36,270 --> 01:28:38,350 Are you looking at the actual diagram itself? 1155 01:28:38,350 --> 01:28:46,770 Well, a figure five, implementation schedule, we can't get that up there, we can't get that. 1156 01:28:47,670 --> 01:28:50,930 It's not in the slides, it's in the present date, it's in the documents that are provided. 1157 01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:58,930 Okay, can you go through that, Jesse, and explain to how this implementation program is going to develop over the next few years? 1158 01:28:59,690 --> 01:29:07,670 Sure, so once we adopt the framework, once the framework is adopted, essentially the clock is already taking any help. 1159 01:29:07,670 --> 01:29:13,870 But the framework of this groundwater use manager program is adopted as of the end of this month. 1160 01:29:14,290 --> 01:29:19,970 The implementation schedule starts, so we've got a year to work with the respective management area 1161 01:29:19,970 --> 01:29:27,330 and their stewards to come up the action plan to determine, okay, here's the plan, here's the goal, here's the objective. 1162 01:29:27,550 --> 01:29:32,290 You've got reductions that are required, you've got timeframes to meet these reductions. 1163 01:29:32,930 --> 01:29:38,350 So, the stepped progression is you've got five years from starting from 2020, so we've 1164 01:29:38,350 --> 01:29:41,710 got a year now to implement, come up with the details, come up with the action plan, 1165 01:29:42,090 --> 01:29:44,550 come up with how are they going to achieve this. 1166 01:29:45,170 --> 01:29:51,590 Then you've got five years as a check-in in 2032, are you meeting this action plan? 1167 01:29:51,730 --> 01:29:52,310 Are you on route? 1168 01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:53,150 Are you in schedule? 1169 01:29:53,670 --> 01:29:58,970 If not, then the GSA starts to work with the respective management areas to say, okay, 1170 01:29:58,970 --> 01:29:59,970 Okay, what needs to occur? 1171 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,820 Is this action plan not aggressive enough? Is it not planned out well enough? The GSA then starts to work with the respective management area and say, okay, what needs to be done to help bring this sustainability closer into focus. Then you've got another check-in after five years later. In the middle of these five years, there are going to be interim check-ins to make sure that the sustainability levels, the minimum thresholds, the interim milestones, that those are on par, they are basically 1172 01:30:29,820 --> 01:30:34,320 you're seeing some improvement in these respective areas. 1173 01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:36,240 So there's a five-year check-in, right? 1174 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,740 There's 2032, 2037. 1175 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,940 Ultimately, we've got to reach sustainability by 2042. 1176 01:30:42,140 --> 01:30:44,840 So there's five-year check-ins, but within those five years, 1177 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,020 there's also our annual reporting that's going to occur. 1178 01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:51,660 There's the working with the respective management areas 1179 01:30:51,660 --> 01:30:55,140 to see how close and how far, what's the data showing 1180 01:30:55,140 --> 01:30:58,020 that's reflecting either improvement or regression. 1181 01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:05,980 So we've had to follow up with them to make sure that they are ultimately they've got to submit an action plan that is on that is proving results. 1182 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:13,500 And Todd Groundwater considered our consultants are experts. 1183 01:31:13,580 --> 01:31:19,660 Todd Groundwater would incurred. So Todd Groundwater is handling a lot of the data respective of wells. 1184 01:31:20,180 --> 01:31:27,680 They helped with the well mitigation plan. Woodard and Kern is helping with this actual groundwater use management program. 1185 01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,920 and they are monitoring the data for the models 1186 01:31:31,390 --> 01:31:32,960 and the sustainable yield, 1187 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,080 and they're the consultant that's helping 1188 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,420 with that information. 1189 01:31:37,220 --> 01:31:39,800 Okay, so, you know, as we, you know, 1190 01:31:40,140 --> 01:31:43,440 in between these five year periods, 1191 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,620 we'll be doing monitoring and experts, 1192 01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:48,340 and we'll be updating to be able to see 1193 01:31:48,340 --> 01:31:53,040 if this, all the rules, if you will, 1194 01:31:53,380 --> 01:31:55,420 are working to make sustainability occur. 1195 01:31:57,100 --> 01:32:00,040 one other thing one 1196 01:32:03,820 --> 01:32:10,400 other thing is what's the annual budget of Sturgbeam. The annual 1197 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:19,980 budget with respect to the entire, including our consultants and everything that we spend. 1198 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:26,200 Gosh it varies and it varies because of the influx we have and the reliance we've had on 1199 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:32,180 consultant. So give us a high a low or an average? I mean on an average we're 1200 01:32:32,180 --> 01:32:37,900 probably looking at 600,000. 600,000 and that's divided that is all divided 1201 01:32:37,900 --> 01:32:44,820 up by the GSA members from the Meadowsto, City of Meadowsto, MID. So again the 1202 01:32:44,820 --> 01:32:53,820 ratepayers are funding this entire deal. Okay. Any other questions with the board 1203 01:32:54,740 --> 01:32:58,300 I just want to say something to what you were just driving at. 1204 01:32:58,980 --> 01:33:02,900 At the end of the day, this is a program, it's a plan, there's a framework involved. 1205 01:33:03,180 --> 01:33:07,700 What's going to drive sustainability is observe groundwater level management. 1206 01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:10,680 So we've got a plan and we're going to submit that plan. 1207 01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:15,840 But ultimately what says do we meet, the thresholds are not, is going to be observed groundwater levels. 1208 01:33:16,380 --> 01:33:22,500 Those measurements taken between now and those compliance periods have to meet those minimum thresholds. 1209 01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:25,640 So, it's gonna be the data that we observe in the ground 1210 01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,240 that will ultimately carry if it's sustainable or not. 1211 01:33:29,500 --> 01:33:30,380 No, and I understand that. 1212 01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:31,780 I mean, we've got multiple test wells 1213 01:33:31,780 --> 01:33:34,640 scattered throughout the whole management areas, right? 1214 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:38,500 And it's just say, stagnant waters at 112 feet 1215 01:33:38,500 --> 01:33:40,080 at this particular location. 1216 01:33:40,540 --> 01:33:44,460 And if we come back there a year from now and check that, 1217 01:33:44,620 --> 01:33:48,260 and if it's at higher lower, I mean, obviously, 1218 01:33:48,420 --> 01:33:50,660 if it's higher, then our plan's working. 1219 01:33:50,660 --> 01:33:52,680 And if it's lower, then we've got a maybe a salary. 1220 01:33:53,340 --> 01:33:53,440 All right. 1221 01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,640 I'm good, unless any other board members have any more questions, 1222 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,160 we need to open this up to the public for public comment. 1223 01:34:03,140 --> 01:34:05,840 And so it is, the public comment is now open. 1224 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:10,040 And 1225 01:34:20,370 --> 01:34:22,310 I'm just going to drink again a long time 1226 01:34:22,310 --> 01:34:24,150 of deaths for residents only 38 years. 1227 01:34:24,170 --> 01:34:24,890 It's not a big deal. 1228 01:34:25,790 --> 01:34:29,230 I'm concerned from what I heard Dr. Provost talk about. 1229 01:34:29,230 --> 01:34:35,310 Now, you know, Modesto seems like their urban group seems to pay for everything, or 90 1230 01:34:35,310 --> 01:34:39,350 summer, 92,000, whatever it is, residents here, excuse me, 1231 01:34:42,580 --> 01:34:45,260 places you get money from, accounts. 1232 01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:53,440 I've never once seen to go on past a point, but you'll, I'm sorry, I mean to look at you 1233 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:53,900 up, apologies. 1234 01:34:55,300 --> 01:34:59,380 I've never once seen an opportunity that says, oh, you'll get it in the long run. 1235 01:34:59,380 --> 01:35:02,620 We'll take care of you in the long run because I've got to tell you it never happens. 1236 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,780 We watched two promises, people, he'd get money back, he lasted one term because he didn't 1237 01:35:07,780 --> 01:35:08,280 do a penny. 1238 01:35:08,740 --> 01:35:14,480 Didn't get a penny for anybody because the judge said we'd have to pay for our, we have 1239 01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:16,400 to raise our own rates to pay our own money back. 1240 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:18,960 I got some concerns here. 1241 01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,420 First of all, really would like the opportunity to weigh in earlier about cloud seating because 1242 01:35:23,420 --> 01:35:26,160 I wonder if that adds to the snow pack more than just the rainfall. 1243 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,780 Well, and FEMA didn't get a chance to talk about that either with the current administration. 1244 01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:32,880 There's a lot of issues going on. 1245 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,480 It seems like they're gutting everything. 1246 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:38,340 So if they gut all the rules, do we have to worry about it? 1247 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:40,400 Let's go on about this. 1248 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,220 Modesto is looking at slider right now, as we're all aware. 1249 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,540 All the way across the North, all the way through Lad Road. 1250 01:35:50,020 --> 01:35:52,080 Some of the best recharge farm land around. 1251 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:57,580 I know that's kind of overused sometimes because wood colonies, the big leader there, I'm curious. 1252 01:35:57,900 --> 01:35:59,740 Modesto plans on developing all that land. 1253 01:35:59,940 --> 01:36:00,620 Paving it over. 1254 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,860 River bank from the other side is looking to put in more houses. 1255 01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:07,700 The river walk and everything else, they're paving it over. 1256 01:36:08,300 --> 01:36:10,440 Is that going to affect the aquifer? 1257 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,940 Is it even taken into consideration on this plan? 1258 01:36:16,540 --> 01:36:17,640 And I agree with one thing. 1259 01:36:17,820 --> 01:36:21,400 If we've got people, I can't see how if they're going to keep pumping water, that they're 1260 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:26,240 going to make it anyway. I don't know why we would wait. I don't know why we would say let's 1261 01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:33,640 look at it in a year. When you stick the flag in the ground and say here I don't see that happening. 1262 01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,080 Anything else is just a pretence unfortunately. 1263 01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:43,070 Does this prevent a single person and we'll just 1264 01:36:43,070 --> 01:36:48,750 call it out Bill Lyons, 10,000 acre feet? Does it prevent him from doing that again or someone else? 1265 01:36:48,750 --> 01:36:53,090 I'm not trying to sing my mind. I'm just tired of seeing that acre putty taken out of our 1266 01:36:53,090 --> 01:36:54,390 rock of her going somewhere else. 1267 01:36:56,480 --> 01:37:00,460 But I don't see any restrictions for that. Nothing's mentioned. 1268 01:37:00,980 --> 01:37:05,520 Why is it always the big pocketed people, the deep pockets, and do whatever the heck they want? 1269 01:37:06,980 --> 01:37:13,640 Why? I don't see anybody doing anything here. No offense, sir. You're doing it best. I understand, 1270 01:37:14,540 --> 01:37:20,780 not after you at all it's maybe it's the process that gets frustrating because it's always somewhere 1271 01:37:20,780 --> 01:37:25,720 down the road that we're going to have the true up and it's not lived from the dust a long time 1272 01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:33,080 they don't believe in true ups my knees are about the same you know yeah a lot of good feelings 1273 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:41,080 but the residents of the dust that don't seem to be represented here no offense who takes our side 1274 01:37:41,780 --> 01:37:46,300 We're the actual deep pockets, we're not special interest groups, we are in a way. 1275 01:37:46,700 --> 01:37:50,680 We just want water to drink, but if they're going to pave over all that land in Slido, 1276 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,820 which they have planned, there's three different versions of that land, if you haven't paid attention. 1277 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,080 Is that factored in? 1278 01:37:58,420 --> 01:38:05,980 I'll stop with my rant now, but people, especially those that represent Modesto Residents, forget 1279 01:38:05,980 --> 01:38:06,960 about down the road. 1280 01:38:08,300 --> 01:38:09,120 Take care of today. 1281 01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:15,060 You take care today, tomorrow take care of itself, but saying we're going to do it all, 1282 01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:22,340 we'll have more time to play with it, I'm tired of tender feelings, solved the problem. 1283 01:38:22,780 --> 01:38:23,860 That's all we've ever asked. 1284 01:38:24,380 --> 01:38:25,580 It just never gets done. 1285 01:38:25,940 --> 01:38:26,880 Thank you very much for your time. 1286 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:29,520 Okay, thank you for those comments. 1287 01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:30,600 Is there anybody else? 1288 01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:37,640 Wrangler, I see you sitting there trying to be. 1289 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:41,660 Anybody online? 1290 01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:43,440 No hands raised. 1291 01:38:43,620 --> 01:38:44,260 No hands raised. 1292 01:38:46,020 --> 01:38:46,680 No other comments? 1293 01:38:46,940 --> 01:38:47,760 Okay, going once. 1294 01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:48,520 Going twice. 1295 01:38:50,060 --> 01:38:51,580 Okay, public comment closed. 1296 01:38:58,190 --> 01:39:04,270 If no other questions from the board, I guess the next question is do we have a motion to proceed on? 1297 01:39:04,730 --> 01:39:06,410 I guess we're going to do these in two motions, Frank. 1298 01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:08,750 One for the well-management. 1299 01:39:09,170 --> 01:39:09,850 You can do it as one. 1300 01:39:09,950 --> 01:39:11,410 You can do this one on this motion. 1301 01:39:12,010 --> 01:39:17,190 Excuse me, I apologize, but I was waiting for a response to see whether that development 1302 01:39:17,190 --> 01:39:21,930 is planned is back to him. I didn't get that answer, but I'll sit right there. 1303 01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:32,760 The answer, do you want to answer that question? 1304 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:33,840 Yes, yes, yes. 1305 01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,180 I'd love to have you answer that question. 1306 01:39:35,180 --> 01:39:35,900 Yeah, that's a good question. 1307 01:39:36,140 --> 01:39:39,860 So, one of the things that we looked at in the sustainable yield was there's an allocation 1308 01:39:39,860 --> 01:39:42,080 for municipal municipalities. 1309 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:55,000 and so in that it takes into consideration what is their future build out, what is their annexation plan, what is their ultimately what are they planning for their projections and that that yields an increase. 1310 01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:08,420 However, considering that they are also held to certain state requirements for water conservation, the goal was there for to hold them at where they are currently basically an offset. 1311 01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:13,400 So any projected development they have is going to be offset by the requirement to conserve. 1312 01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,980 So they are currently, where they're currently, is staying the way it is. 1313 01:40:18,460 --> 01:40:23,260 So as they develop, there's still, there is no increased ground water. 1314 01:40:23,420 --> 01:40:25,660 They're not allocated for any additional ground water pumping. 1315 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,320 What they have currently is what they have. 1316 01:40:30,180 --> 01:40:33,120 So I think that was a good job of answering this question. 1317 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:39,520 But I think it goes to your point about this is an ongoing study. 1318 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,300 I mean, we're going to continue not just every five years, but every year we're going 1319 01:40:44,300 --> 01:40:45,260 to be reviewing it. 1320 01:40:45,420 --> 01:40:52,800 So as things change in our environment, you know, things get paved over whatever we'll 1321 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,680 be updating this on a regular basis. 1322 01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:55,360 Right. 1323 01:40:55,940 --> 01:40:58,200 I mean, it is, you know, I mean, it's a moving target. 1324 01:40:58,300 --> 01:41:03,060 This is what we have currently, yeah, as they have development plans, where's the water 1325 01:41:03,060 --> 01:41:08,240 going to come from. I think maybe that's where Mr. Emerson is going, is at some point they still 1326 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:15,540 may not have enough water after their development. And if they continue on these development trends, 1327 01:41:15,540 --> 01:41:19,360 where is that water going to come from? It's got to come from somewhere. Is there more reliance on 1328 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:23,900 surface water? And those are questions that are all yet to be, I think, have to be sorted out. 1329 01:41:24,020 --> 01:41:30,140 But currently, as it stands, as the snapshot now, what the municipalities currently have with respect 1330 01:41:30,140 --> 01:41:35,940 to groundwater is what they will continue to, is what they have for the next, till 2042. 1331 01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:53,360 Last, you know, the data starts to show different direction, and at that point, if we want to make some changes, then that will be, you know, that'll be part of the GSP process, updating the GSP, updating the figures, updating the numbers, updating, you know, it's all about making those required updates. 1332 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:56,140 Okay. Does that answer you guys questions? 1333 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:02,880 Any more questions by the board? We're good to go. Somebody want to make a motion? 1334 01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,600 Frank says we can do it in one motion. 1335 01:42:07,140 --> 01:42:10,240 So Frank, if you can help me with this, I'll make the motion to approve 1336 01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,920 Barring any septic symptoms changes being made. 1337 01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:21,980 Yeah, you would say as I would motion to approve the resolutions because there's actually two resolutions one for each as presented. 1338 01:42:24,220 --> 01:42:33,240 subject to any substance changes being made and if there are, then they will come back to the board for a further review. 1339 01:42:34,060 --> 01:42:36,840 So you can just say so moved if you like what I just said. 1340 01:42:37,220 --> 01:42:37,680 It's so moved. 1341 01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:39,260 That's easier. 1342 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,400 that. I'll second it. 1343 01:42:49,220 --> 01:42:56,300 So with that, you got the motion, Frank. Okay. With that, let's 1344 01:42:56,300 --> 01:43:01,180 do a roll call, Bill. Please. Dr. Bird. Yes. President Furbos. Yes. Vice President 1345 01:43:01,180 --> 01:43:06,900 Bore. Yes. Director Ott. Yes. Motion panel. Thank you. Jesse, thank you for that. 1346 01:43:11,580 --> 01:43:12,060 That's 1347 01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:15,280 a lot of work to protect the ground water for future generations. 1348 01:43:15,660 --> 01:43:18,860 No, considering what's at stake, it's a good discussion, so I appreciate it, thank you. 1349 01:43:19,180 --> 01:43:20,280 Thank you for your efforts. 1350 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:33,080 Okay, so let's move on, I guess we're done with that, so let's move on to items too late for the agenda. 1351 01:43:33,460 --> 01:43:34,060 Do we have any of that? 1352 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:34,820 Jimmy, right? 1353 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,540 Okay, how about any announcements from board members? 1354 01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:41,420 Yeah, going. 1355 01:43:41,420 --> 01:43:47,760 far away. Last Tuesday just an update that served like a committee report 1356 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:53,840 because I know what's going on. Last Tuesday we had a DPRA meeting. It was 1357 01:43:53,840 --> 01:44:00,720 presented. The only action item was presented was a 2% increase on top of 1358 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:10,340 the 3% in mooring and the houseboats and a 3% on top of the 3% that they had 1359 01:44:10,340 --> 01:44:21,620 for 2026 for all other moorings that was approved with the contention of there's projects 1360 01:44:21,620 --> 01:44:28,580 that have to be started by May 1st if not started DPRA will be pulling all that back 1361 01:44:28,580 --> 01:44:34,320 out. So that's a report from DPRA meeting. Any questions? 1362 01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:46,600 Thank you for that vice president for I would like to point out that we received a letter 1363 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:57,700 from Senator Marie Alvarado-Gill regarding last board meetings vote and events that occurred 1364 01:44:57,700 --> 01:44:59,980 I very much appreciate it. 1365 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,880 Appreciate her concerns. I want to have all options available to make this right and make sure the rate payers are protected. And I hope my colleagues feel the same way. With that, we're going to go to Jimmy and see what he has for an update for us. Three items here. First, we just spent quite a bit of time talking about groundwater. And so just to keep with that theme, as you know, 1366 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:35,640 We, a long, long time ago, November, we had, we held an evening workshop on our ground and water replenishment program. 1367 01:45:36,460 --> 01:45:40,740 It's a really good meeting, well, good turnout and a feedback received. 1368 01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:52,000 Following that, we've incorporated some of the feedback, both at the board level and from some of the stakeholders to try to enhance what was already submitted in that evening workshop. 1369 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:59,860 The revised agreement and application have been posted on our website and I believe that we've also shared them on other social media channels. 1370 01:46:01,420 --> 01:46:07,700 We're planning to present these items for your consideration coming up here soon. 1371 01:46:08,660 --> 01:46:18,320 And so just January 27th is what we're targeting so that'll be here at the end of the month. 1372 01:46:18,820 --> 01:46:26,360 Again, I think we have really good momentum received feedback from all different folks and hopefully that's all that's represented. 1373 01:46:27,260 --> 01:46:27,820 Secondly, 1374 01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:34,890 you might have gone out to the mall for some shopping during the holiday season, and 1375 01:46:34,890 --> 01:46:35,890 or to maybe have dinner. 1376 01:46:36,450 --> 01:46:41,350 And you might have noticed there's a new mural out there just outside where the restaurants are in the Apple Store. 1377 01:46:41,930 --> 01:46:49,330 MID partnered with the Stanislaus County Farm Bureau Foundation to help build this mural up. 1378 01:46:49,330 --> 01:46:55,350 That brings awareness to agriculture and the important store community obviously driven by water. 1379 01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:59,510 There was an event out there, I think just before Thanksgiving with City of 1380 01:46:59,510 --> 01:47:04,330 Minnesota, and some other folks, I think there was a couple assembly members, 1381 01:47:04,870 --> 01:47:09,130 Center, all of our other guilds as well as a one and a lease out there. 1382 01:47:10,030 --> 01:47:14,890 And we've received some good, some good press coverage, I think, since that event. 1383 01:47:16,650 --> 01:47:21,130 And then last but not least, just want to give, again, a big thank you to our employees 1384 01:47:21,130 --> 01:47:24,810 beyond keeping the lights on and the water flowing and all the work that you saw. 1385 01:47:24,810 --> 01:47:35,810 All presented this meeting, just before Christmas, one of our traditions is to partner with the Stanislaus Community Services Agency, Child and Family Services Group. 1386 01:47:36,230 --> 01:47:41,290 We partner with them to provide gifts to about 100 different children in foster care. 1387 01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:50,330 This was all employee volunteers who volunteer their time and of course, their donations to provide these gifts during this important time. 1388 01:47:50,590 --> 01:47:53,350 And I just want to give a big thank you to all who are involved. 1389 01:47:53,350 --> 01:48:01,330 always a team ever, but I do want to specifically highlight Blanca and Alex in our Energy Services Group who spearheaded that effort this year. 1390 01:48:02,090 --> 01:48:05,510 Thank you for taking time and a busy time to think of others. 1391 01:48:05,770 --> 01:48:08,930 So that concludes my general manager update. 1392 01:48:09,970 --> 01:48:11,010 General, Mr. Sulfur. 1393 01:48:11,190 --> 01:48:21,470 Yeah, I actually, you said something to remind me of other part of one of it in my announcement is to I want to put a big kudos out to our staff and 1394 01:48:21,470 --> 01:48:27,910 everything. Also, in lieu of the big storms that were coming up in December, they prepared 1395 01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:36,590 for it. And we were one of the areas in California that at least amount of outages were back 1396 01:48:36,590 --> 01:48:42,970 up and going. And we listened to the radio for calls and everything else in the fire department 1397 01:48:42,970 --> 01:48:50,250 side of it. And it was very quiet. There was not a whole lot of wires down. Customers 1398 01:48:50,250 --> 01:48:55,850 worked without power for long period of time. The preparation that went into that it showed 1399 01:48:55,850 --> 01:49:01,730 and I want to just say appreciative to the staff that they did an excellent job on keeping 1400 01:49:01,730 --> 01:49:08,170 the lights on during a pretty good wind event and the rain event. Excellent for that John and 1401 01:49:08,170 --> 01:49:15,870 Jimmy and we thank you for those comments and the next board meetings are January 20th next week 1402 01:49:15,870 --> 01:49:19,790 and January 27th and this meeting is adjourned.