1 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,940 Good morning, we have 9.30, and we will begin with an invocation, Ilan. 2 00:01:25,060 --> 00:01:26,160 Please join me. 3 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,140 Heavenly Father, we begin our meeting again in prayer, and we do so, not out of obligation, 4 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:41,960 but we do so because we recognize your sovereignty and what we do here. And we thank you that 5 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:47,820 not only do we know that you are watching over us and guiding us, but that you have positioned 6 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:54,240 Each of us here today, all of our board members, all of our staff, and those members of the audience. 7 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:01,860 The service has a role to play and how we move forward in the management of our water resources for our area. 8 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:11,660 The challenges are many, there's a lot of complications and it's going to require people working together. 9 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:16,620 It's going to require us in sacrifice and it will require us to think beyond 10 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:23,440 what we think is actually possible, but what we can achieve together. So we thank you, again, 11 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,720 for your presence here at our meeting, and your guidance in your leadership, and your blessing 12 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,580 on this agency for so many years. And we ask, as we continue to go through this pandemic, 13 00:02:35,180 --> 00:02:40,280 that you just give strength to those in the healthcare industry who are so tired, 14 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,880 we ask that you just bless those families who are dealing with COVID issues right now, 15 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,280 and those who have lost loved ones as a result of this. 16 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,760 And we just ask for just a spirit of unity 17 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,720 to fall over our nation as we grapple with so many issues. 18 00:02:57,640 --> 00:02:59,420 And we thank you, in Jesus' name. 19 00:03:04,530 --> 00:03:08,710 With that, I will open the meeting of January 27th 20 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:09,930 for the Board of Directors. 21 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:12,130 And I will call the meeting to order 22 00:03:12,130 --> 00:03:13,810 and begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. 23 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:14,650 Please join me. 24 00:03:14,650 --> 00:03:21,990 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which 25 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:27,810 it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 26 00:03:28,810 --> 00:03:29,250 Thank you. 27 00:03:33,690 --> 00:03:37,010 The trees, if you could roll call and announce who's on the line, please. 28 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:39,430 Director Cox. 29 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Present. 30 00:03:43,220 --> 00:03:43,940 Director Page. 31 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:46,730 Director. 32 00:03:47,510 --> 00:03:48,650 Director Raleigh. 33 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:52,470 Director Ventura. 34 00:03:55,860 --> 00:04:03,760 Director Limbaugh and President Hayhurst here and you may notice that Director 35 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Anderson is not with us. He's meeting with the congressman today and so we're 36 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,120 aware of that and we will continue with six of us. Okay and we also have an 37 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,140 attendance with us. We have General Manager Alison Cebo, General Manager of Special 38 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:21,220 Projects Kathy Cortner and Presenting Staff. We have Lynn Tamowitz, Adnan and 39 00:04:21,220 --> 00:04:22,560 and a taboo and Nick Snyder. 40 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,680 Thank you, Latrice. 41 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 With that, I will look to my board 42 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,220 for an approval of the agenda, a motion, please. 43 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:34,020 This is my page. I'll make a motion. 44 00:04:36,380 --> 00:04:37,620 I'll make the second. 45 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:40,580 Thank you, Director's Page and Cox. 46 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,960 Roll call, please. 47 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,620 Director Limbaugh. 48 00:04:46,810 --> 00:04:47,210 Yes. 49 00:04:47,930 --> 00:04:48,930 Director Ventura. 50 00:04:50,510 --> 00:04:51,070 Yes. 51 00:04:51,970 --> 00:04:52,970 Director Raleigh. 52 00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:56,120 Director Page. 53 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:58,520 Yes. 54 00:04:58,900 --> 00:04:59,560 Director Kranks. 55 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:30,380 Aye. And, President Harris. Yes. Having unanimous approval of the agenda. Public participation, do we have any request to speak at this time? Latrice, do I need to read public participation? No, at this time, we do not have any request to speak. All right. This is Chuck Bell. Yes. This is Chuck Bell, can you hear me? Yes, sir. Let me go ahead and read the public participation. 56 00:05:30,380 --> 00:05:32,780 I assume you would like to speak at this time, Chuck? 57 00:05:34,660 --> 00:05:37,200 Either that or number five, whichever one you want. 58 00:05:40,660 --> 00:05:41,620 Let me... 59 00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:44,920 Okay, let me read the public participation at this point, Chuck. 60 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,720 And then we'll have you speak on the item that you're interested in during the workshop. 61 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,880 I think would be appropriate. 62 00:05:51,340 --> 00:05:52,800 The information will have been shared. 63 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:58,680 So the public comment period is limited to five minutes per person and not more than 15 minutes in total. 64 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:05,660 Anyone wishing to address any matter pertaining to agency business listed on the agenda or not may do so at this time. 65 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:11,100 However, the Board of Directors may not take any actions on items that are not listed on the agenda. 66 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:15,340 Please submit a speaker's card to the recording secretary prior to the start of the meeting. 67 00:06:16,060 --> 00:06:24,020 Again, Chuck, so we will put you in the queue for item number five on the workshop. Is that correct? 68 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:24,200 Correct? 69 00:06:25,930 --> 00:06:26,490 Correct. 70 00:06:26,650 --> 00:06:26,930 Thank you. 71 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:27,590 All right. 72 00:06:29,190 --> 00:06:34,530 With that, General Manager Febo, mid-year budget review introduction, please. 73 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:45,570 That time of year where we're going to give an overview of where we are through the implementation 74 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:51,350 of our activities this year and now we're doing compared to our budget forecast. 75 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:55,150 I'll hand over to Lynn Chamowitz for CFO. 76 00:06:55,150 --> 00:06:56,310 So 77 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,320 today, I will be giving the mid-year budget review. 78 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:13,200 The agenda for today is to go over the background and context in which we develop the budget and why it matters and the accountability and transparency of it. 79 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Then I will provide an overall revenue performance review going to the expense performance review. 80 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,880 And then I will do a detailed review of objectives in our strategic plan versus the budget 81 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:33,640 over the capital budget and then discuss future steps in regards to the budgeting and financial planning process. 82 00:07:36,220 --> 00:07:45,040 This is all related to the strategic objective to responsibly do or the availability of financial resources required for MWA to fulfill its mission. 83 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,080 We 84 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:55,430 are here in the budget performance mode after just determining the strategic initiatives 85 00:07:55,430 --> 00:08:02,150 and developing the strategic plan. We identified what are the budget resources needed to 86 00:08:02,150 --> 00:08:08,890 accomplish that with regards to staff, operations, and maintenance and capital. And right now we're 87 00:08:08,890 --> 00:08:16,350 monitoring how we're doing for budget purposes and providing that additional layer of transparency 88 00:08:16,350 --> 00:08:19,250 to our stakeholders, board members, bond holders. 89 00:08:20,270 --> 00:08:24,430 And we'll use information to forecast into the future. 90 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:27,310 Today has a number of projections and how it's changed. 91 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:31,950 And then that will be integrated into our longer term financial model. 92 00:08:32,450 --> 00:08:34,430 And then the cycle will begin again. 93 00:08:35,590 --> 00:08:41,370 What we have here is the latest and preliminary projected chasers 94 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:43,930 that we have for the agency. 95 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:52,330 The orange line indicates the minimum targets reserve level for the agency, and then this 96 00:08:52,330 --> 00:08:58,510 green line represents where we are as far as cash availability for the entire agency. 97 00:08:59,210 --> 00:09:06,070 As you can see, we do still expect that our cash reserves will fall below the target, and 98 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:08,210 the timing of that is around 2036. 99 00:09:08,210 --> 00:09:09,530 So, 100 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:17,430 for revenue, this is our automated revenue for the year. 101 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:23,230 So, as you can see, all of our different tax collections make up the vast majority 102 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,930 of our revenue for the year. 103 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:32,610 Our budgeted amount was 4,390,000. 104 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:36,290 We've upped that projections a little bit based on what we know now. 105 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:44,750 This lighter blue bar indicates what we've collected year-to-date as you may be aware that we 106 00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:50,090 collect our taxes in sort of two big chunks during the year, so we've received the first big 107 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:56,110 chunks for the year and then we're anticipating for the rest to be received in the April May time 108 00:09:56,110 --> 00:09:56,370 frame. 109 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:59,910 We also have another revenue 110 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:23,160 We have a new stream that's very significant this year, which is our state water project transfers. We originally budgeted for the $8 million sort of average of what we expected. And so far, we're now projecting it to be around 23 million, which is a significant increase that we've projected for this year. 111 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,060 doing the budgeting information so the projections have not changed for what we're expecting 112 00:10:35,060 --> 00:10:41,160 for water sales. Our interest projections have decreased slightly just because we know 113 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,700 that the interest that we're earning on our investments are not as great and interest lows 114 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,600 or interest rates are low. 115 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:55,040 As far as grants, the majority of the projection changes have to do 116 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:01,340 with timing. So we reduced our projections slightly and as you can see we've 117 00:11:01,340 --> 00:11:05,320 collected a little bit but a lot of our grants are reimbursement based so 118 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,220 when they're spent we will bring in that revenue. 119 00:11:09,930 --> 00:11:12,290 This is just a tabular 120 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:17,870 depiction of the same graphs that I was showing you before. As again we 121 00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:24,850 projected a slight increase in taxes, our water sales are projected to be on 122 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:32,750 target at this point. We know that our water transfers are going to be higher than anticipated. 123 00:11:33,070 --> 00:11:39,590 Originally, our grants are going to be slightly lower, mainly due to timing, and also to point 124 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:44,510 out that this sort of is the net zero for the organization. So as we bring in grants, we spend 125 00:11:44,510 --> 00:11:49,790 that money in the same time period, a little bit lower in interest. 126 00:11:52,380 --> 00:11:54,400 So with that, the real big story 127 00:11:54,400 --> 00:12:01,540 here is that the state water project transfers was originally depicted as a wild card and 128 00:12:01,540 --> 00:12:10,500 it still is. So this was our allocation and so we budgeted very moderately at the average 129 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:13,660 point and then we're off the charts. 130 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:23,540 Now moving on to our expenses. The bulk of our expenses 131 00:12:23,540 --> 00:12:31,100 is also comes into the RDWR infrastructure costs, the cost of our table A allocation. 132 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,140 We're expecting a little bit of a bump from before because now we have more finalized 133 00:12:37,140 --> 00:12:44,500 numbers from the Department of Water Resources, not too significant jump in what we're projecting. 134 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:52,560 Water import is sort of the same as water sales. We have no better information 135 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:54,480 So we're keeping the projection as the same. 136 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,840 We have not spent a significant amount because of the low allocation. 137 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,480 For a departmental expenses, we're anticipating that that will be less than what we originally budgeted for. 138 00:13:07,180 --> 00:13:12,860 And in the subsequent presentation, I'll go over sort of what are those changes and why. 139 00:13:14,020 --> 00:13:28,800 The same with capital. A lot of capital expenditures have just been postponed due to timing, just due to the supply chain issues that are going on, and we're unable to make some of these purchases that are required just because they're not available. 140 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:37,260 debt were right on with our projections there, and then grant and miscellaneous sort of 141 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:41,040 the same situation as the revenue, so those should match out. 142 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:50,740 Here we have the tabular depiction of it for those who like to see the numbers, the 143 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:58,180 situation as the grants, slight increase in what we expect to pay to DWR for those fixed 144 00:13:58,180 --> 00:14:03,320 costs related to the infrastructure, water import, we expect to be the same, so that's 145 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,820 the water that we're bringing into the region, the departmental expenses, capital expenses 146 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:15,400 and grant expenses all are showing projected to be lower than what was budgeted and then debt 147 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,240 will remain the same. 148 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:24,220 So I'm going to go over in more detail the departmental expenses because 149 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:27,480 That's really the area that we have the most control over. 150 00:14:28,940 --> 00:14:33,660 A lot of the decrease in projections has to do with just staffing level. 151 00:14:34,820 --> 00:14:40,000 A lot of our strategic plan and strategic initiatives do have to do with staff labor. 152 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:44,400 So we are doing this sort of work class to get fully staffed. 153 00:14:44,860 --> 00:14:52,320 But right now from what we budgeted were about the four vacancies for the entire year. 154 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,220 from what we originally budgeted for. 155 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:59,990 So at this point, I'm going to go through briefly and hit 156 00:15:00,210 --> 00:15:06,770 Some of the highlights in regards to what we had planned in our strategic initiatives to accomplish 157 00:15:06,770 --> 00:15:12,450 this year, and some of the more significant financial impacts and how they've made changes 158 00:15:12,450 --> 00:15:18,710 or other things like that in our throughout the year, from what we know now. 159 00:15:20,250 --> 00:15:27,010 So our objective one for sustainable groundwater basins was to update the scope of work for 160 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:30,570 Cal Rural, we did that at the end of last fiscal year. 161 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:35,070 We have a budget for $100,000, and that is going 162 00:15:35,070 --> 00:15:37,490 to be what we are still expecting to spend 163 00:15:37,490 --> 00:15:38,730 and has been authorized. 164 00:15:40,010 --> 00:15:45,570 The next bullet and initiative is to understand the use 165 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:50,030 of minimal producers and parties outside of operating outside 166 00:15:50,030 --> 00:15:51,050 of the judgment. 167 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:56,370 So the board has authorized that additional engineering 168 00:15:56,370 --> 00:16:00,490 supporting support that we needed to really get us there and to get that 169 00:16:00,490 --> 00:16:06,590 comprehensive understanding. We originally budgeted $75,000, which was sort of 170 00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:11,130 a regular scope for the engineering support and that has been increased to 171 00:16:11,130 --> 00:16:18,410 $225,000. The second part is the Kister's database. So the Kister's database is a 172 00:16:18,410 --> 00:16:25,750 system that water resources uses to keep up on the science behind where our 173 00:16:25,750 --> 00:16:32,970 water levels are in the basin. That was for $50,000 to implement that system and really 174 00:16:32,970 --> 00:16:34,270 get it fully operational. 175 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:41,930 I skipped over some of the more staff-intensive objectives 176 00:16:41,930 --> 00:16:47,330 and we're hopping right to objective 3, which was for reliable water supply and infrastructure. 177 00:16:48,930 --> 00:16:57,210 The Kennedy James project to evaluate the groundwater banking operations are addressed in 178 00:16:57,210 --> 00:17:03,610 different initiatives. And we have that $800,000 budget in the capital budget to sort of 179 00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:11,310 accomplish multiple objectives in our strategic plans. We're also moving forward very successfully 180 00:17:11,310 --> 00:17:17,270 with development of the asset management plan. We have the contract in place with 181 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:23,650 analytics to do that phase one, establishing our levels of service along the board and stakeholder 182 00:17:23,650 --> 00:17:31,910 their input. And then we also have developing the OSA recharge facility that's in the capital 183 00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:34,270 budget and that's also moving along as planned. 184 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:40,090 Group 5, for the effective organization 185 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:47,330 and culture, we're sort of moving ahead of schedule. For that, we've identified that we need to 186 00:17:47,330 --> 00:17:55,110 conduct a comprehensive class and compensation study. We've developed and adopted the strategic 187 00:17:55,250 --> 00:18:03,690 staffing plans with that, you know, there's additional research session that makes it happen 188 00:18:03,690 --> 00:18:09,870 or how we have that structure going into the future. So that contract has been awarded, 189 00:18:10,170 --> 00:18:16,410 it was not budgeted for in this fiscal year, so that was something that was adopted by the board 190 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:18,650 that was outside of the scope of the original budget. 191 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:24,430 For robust technology, science, and data, 192 00:18:25,410 --> 00:18:32,010 We have begun the development of an information technology strategic plan, one of the high 193 00:18:32,010 --> 00:18:36,890 priority things that came out of that needs and gap assessment was that we needed information 194 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:43,270 system manager to think comprehensively throughout the organization about what our needs are 195 00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:44,510 and what our risks are. 196 00:18:44,970 --> 00:18:52,470 With that, we've hired an information system manager, so Trevor is on board now and ready 197 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:59,330 to take it a step further to finalize that strategic plan and then also another outcome 198 00:18:59,330 --> 00:19:05,830 from that initiative was the identification that we needed to do more work to modernize 199 00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:15,130 the network and the software and all that good stuff for our skate-up system so that's 200 00:19:15,130 --> 00:19:18,770 been identified and put into the capital plan going forward. 201 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:26,050 Another initiative that's going to move forward is to develop the long-term weather monitoring 202 00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:32,970 station and key strategic locations that is going to be presented to the board and is 203 00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:36,850 on track for at least getting started in this fiscal year. 204 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:47,720 So on to Objective 7, we're working on the financial strategic plan with the help of consultants 205 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:54,400 from reptiles. They are currently revamping the model so we can get really good 206 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,860 the scenario analysis of, you know, what is, um, for, um, some of the different 207 00:20:00,020 --> 00:20:21,140 Financial risks that we're facing, and some opportunities as well. And then another key is to bring in grant resources when it's aligned with our mission and available, so we've identified $80,000 to support that. So that is going along as planned. 208 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:30,000 And our final objective in the strategic plan is to continue to strengthen and build 209 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:37,040 collaborative relationships with everyone who's involved in the agency and the management of our water resources. 210 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:48,680 Most things are going along as planned. We're sort of shifting things to virtual, we're necessary, but we're continuing to engage the community where we can. 211 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:58,060 And then with water conservation and other public relations with other agencies that's also going along as planned as well. 212 00:20:58,060 --> 00:21:08,140 The one wrench in the situation has been that because of the census, we have the requirements 213 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:13,740 and the opportunity to engage with the public regarding redistricting and having those public hearings, 214 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:19,940 which we're not budgeted for, but we're using savings from other areas to fund that effort 215 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:23,480 and to engage the public for those redistricting hearings. 216 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,600 With 217 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:30,950 that, we're going to move on to the capital budget. 218 00:21:31,170 --> 00:21:35,350 Some of the capital items, such as weather stations, have been discussed and that there's 219 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:36,190 no plan there. 220 00:21:38,010 --> 00:21:42,270 Most of our capital budget items are moving forward. 221 00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:49,910 There might be slight timing issues, again associated with supply chain and other situations. 222 00:21:49,910 --> 00:21:57,870 But for the most part, our capital budget is moving along as planned for our data upgrade system. 223 00:21:58,570 --> 00:22:06,290 We've had some shifts in spending and additional spending that's required for the networking and server improvement. 224 00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:11,710 And then for our vehicles and equipment, which I apologize is a little cut off. 225 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:17,250 We were intending to purchase a heavy duty service truck, but just due to the availability. 226 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:20,790 we're unable to do that at this point. 227 00:22:21,790 --> 00:22:27,110 So overall, we're still intending to spend less than we originally budgeted for in our 228 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:27,850 capital budget. 229 00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:37,430 So from here, this is sort of the timeline for the budget and for the financial plans. 230 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:42,950 We're already starting to think about what are revenue requirements for next year. 231 00:22:42,950 --> 00:23:00,850 So, at the next TFST meeting, we'll have a revenue workshop, and we'll be going through the first draft of the financial model, and what is possible there, and how we're thinking about the strategic financial plan. 232 00:23:01,650 --> 00:23:08,470 From there, February will be focused on revenue, March, we're going to be moving on to expenses. 233 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:15,890 And then the April May timeframe will be doing a detailed budget discussion and getting 234 00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:18,590 into the nitty gritty of the budget. 235 00:23:19,370 --> 00:23:24,930 And then from there, we're hoping to adopt it and then the budget will be effective July 236 00:23:24,930 --> 00:23:25,390 1. 237 00:23:25,390 --> 00:23:31,170 And from there we'll also be continuing to working on that longer term financial strategic plan. 238 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:39,240 So with that, I'm available for questions. 239 00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:41,060 Thank you, Lynn. 240 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,380 I'm going to start with the public comments and then I'll move on to the board, Chuck Bell. 241 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,360 You are up. 242 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,640 Well, thank you, Madam President. 243 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:54,140 We really do. 244 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:55,180 Thank you. 245 00:23:55,180 --> 00:24:01,080 for the focus on ST regarding the minimal producers and those tough and outside the judgment. 246 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:07,040 We've been talking about it for years and we really appreciate the focus on it and the budgeting for it. 247 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:18,480 And number two, I think we assume that the Lucerne Valley Recharge Basin would be part of the effort, even though it's not specifically listed for the budget. 248 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,120 Is that true? 249 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:24,510 I don't know the answer to that. 250 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:25,350 Kathy or Lynn? 251 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,380 Yes, this is Kathy. So the phase one on the 252 00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:37,360 on the recharge base and there's complete and operational where we put some water in there. 253 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:43,520 There are plans I think in next year's budget. It'll be done in house by staff. The 254 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:51,340 bigger, more expensive one is not in the immediate future but it is something that is on a radar 255 00:24:51,340 --> 00:24:53,040 for at some point in the future. 256 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,860 But for right now we do everything, creating and water going into the sky. 257 00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,980 So... 258 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:09,480 Okay. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate it. That's it for that. Thank you, Chuck. Do I have any other public comments? Anyone online that would like to make a comment? 259 00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:23,900 All right. Seeing no blinking green lights, I will move on to the board. And I'll start with director Ventura. Any comments on the mid-year budget review? 260 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:37,660 Another great presentation by 11 staff. It's amazing how they bring things together in such easy terms, understand. No, it's a great job. 261 00:25:37,660 --> 00:25:39,220 I think we're moving in the right direction. 262 00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:45,000 A few exceptions that we had as a budget that came up this past year, 263 00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:45,840 which we're addressing. 264 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,360 Chuck asked the question that I was going to ask about it 265 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:53,000 was about the CERN Valley Recharge Facility. 266 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,660 We're in a test program, so I'm not mistaken. 267 00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:00,680 So in a long term, it was about a year away before we get into that. 268 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,160 But anyway, a great presentation. 269 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,100 When you do a great job, you just take the word down. 270 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,940 I'm out every time. 271 00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:09,920 Thank you, Director Ventura, Director Cox. 272 00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:34,960 No questions, but I look forward to us beginning the budget process as we work through this as a committee and encourage all the other board members to come alongside us and listen to the discussions and engage with staff whenever you have questions as we begin this process. 273 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:35,980 Thank you. 274 00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:38,140 Yes, and director Raleigh. 275 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,420 Looks good so far. 276 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:46,080 Looking forward to seeing it in the future. 277 00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:46,760 Thank you. 278 00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:49,180 Excellent director page. 279 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:56,440 I can just tackle what everyone else has said. 280 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,240 We do such a good job staffed as at the agency of getting this information to us in front. 281 00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:06,240 In front of us well in advance. 282 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,920 of the budget time and just as I said I think Kimberly mentioned this is our 283 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:17,760 opportunity to ask questions months in advance as things come up and just 284 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,500 really appreciate all the hard work the staff goes into putting this together so 285 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:27,900 that we have time to digest it. Thank you. Thank you Director Page Director Limbaugh. 286 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:35,700 Yeah I don't really have any comments except on the expenditure and 287 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:44,660 revenue graph I still don't envision that the assumptions made to draw that graph are what it's 288 00:27:44,660 --> 00:27:50,080 going to be like in five years. So I have a hard time showing that graph every time we'll be sure 289 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:57,220 expenditures exceeding our revenues and keep in mind that this year we made the first major water sale 290 00:27:57,220 --> 00:28:04,760 outside of our area and that was well over $20 million. So I mean there's lots of opportunities. 291 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:12,160 We still have so many questions on answer from the state with the Delta conveyance facility and whatnot. 292 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:18,620 So when we see that graph, I caution other board members, don't be alarmed. 293 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,900 We're not going to turn around and raise taxes in the next foreseeable future. 294 00:28:23,580 --> 00:28:29,260 And that graph needs some evaluation in the future, I think. 295 00:28:29,260 --> 00:28:37,060 so we can nail down as why is it crossing in 2036 and not 2038 and not 2040. 296 00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:42,260 So the sumptuous put into that graph still remain a mystery. 297 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,140 So that's all. 298 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,500 Thank you, Director Limbaugh. 299 00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:49,120 We look forward to the process. 300 00:28:49,340 --> 00:28:50,860 I have no additional comments. 301 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:56,060 So with that, I will close the workshop on the budget review 302 00:28:56,060 --> 00:29:02,700 And I will move on to our second workshop of the morning, which is Item 6, Asset Management 303 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:03,920 Level of Service. 304 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:05,880 General Manager Febo? 305 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,140 Yes, thank you. 306 00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:09,520 A brief introduction to this. 307 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:17,680 We did initiate an Asset Management planning process where we are identifying our current 308 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:24,420 assets, including infrastructure, and then planning for how do you responsibly maintain 309 00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:28,460 through this asset management planning program. 310 00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:34,000 This first workshop is looking at our current level of service. 311 00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:39,140 So this is really depending on what our current requirements and needs are 312 00:29:39,140 --> 00:29:43,740 and are basically establishing a baseline to start moving forward 313 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:46,380 and planning based upon. 314 00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:49,240 So I will hand this over to Adnan and Atabi. 315 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:54,850 Thank you and good morning. 316 00:29:54,850 --> 00:29:59,790 this is a presentation that Emmett gave in perio last week. 317 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:08,400 And so, no new information, but it's an important step in the process, and so we're happy to walk through this again. 318 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:31,120 So, first, I want to discuss, summarize the purpose of the Asset Management Program. We're undertaking at the agency all up with the specific tasks we are undergoing, which is the level of service, developing that master documents. I'll discuss next steps, and then open it up for discussion. This should be rather quick. 319 00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:57,870 So, the purpose of asset management really is about management of an asset, creation acquisition, maintenance, operation, rehab, and disposal of those assets, and all at the lowest cost possible, so it's an optimization problem to make sure we're getting the best value out of our assets. 320 00:30:57,870 --> 00:31:04,590 That's often time we focus a lot on the creation and acquisition, right, the CIP and building 321 00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:09,170 new things, but associated with those things is a lot of maintenance and operation and 322 00:31:09,170 --> 00:31:13,090 rehabilitation to ensure that they continue to function as intended. 323 00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:18,130 And they can represent a liability if not managed appropriately. 324 00:31:18,530 --> 00:31:23,390 So as a management, it's about managing it on the entire life cycle. 325 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:29,410 And this wheel is really just to represent this is a cyclical process. 326 00:31:30,790 --> 00:31:34,410 As a management, it's about managing the life cycle of an asset. 327 00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:40,570 A lot of the decision decisions are driven by risk assessment and condition. 328 00:31:44,170 --> 00:31:49,150 Oftentimes, we've heard from the board that don't replace something if it's still working. 329 00:31:49,330 --> 00:31:50,350 And that's exactly true. 330 00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:55,310 So, don't replace based on the schedule, but it's still helpful to understand or project 331 00:31:55,910 --> 00:32:01,750 when we might expect something to need some work, so that we can project long-term financially. 332 00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:08,030 But this process is a regular occurrence, regularly assessing risk-and-condition is going 333 00:32:08,030 --> 00:32:10,050 to be an important part of the asset management program. 334 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:20,520 Okay, so, moving on to level of service, first and foremost, the level of service is critical 335 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,500 and supports the agency's mission, vision, and values. 336 00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:30,700 It's about aligning the organization at the strategic level 337 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,380 to the booths in the ground day-to-day. 338 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,520 We bring together all known information about our system 339 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,420 and its needs in terms of how it needs the function 340 00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:43,220 and that's an important part. 341 00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:46,800 And those are fundamental inputs 342 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:53,040 the criticali and risk assessment which make up a very important piece of the asset management program. 343 00:32:54,620 --> 00:33:00,160 Now, when I talk about mission vision and values, these are derived from the Hobby Water Agency Act 344 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,220 as well as the Strategic Plan. The 345 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,820 level of services is intended to support those and move it 346 00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:12,760 down through the organization to what we do in the field every day. 347 00:33:16,910 --> 00:33:18,230 So this is about organizational 348 00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:23,570 alignment. I had mentioned this. Again, how do we take a strategic vision? Our mission vision and 349 00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:28,290 values and run it down to how we manage our assets day to day. 350 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:33,810 And so this part here is sort of the critical piece of the puzzle 351 00:33:33,810 --> 00:33:35,170 in terms of how you relate to. 352 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:42,720 Level of service itself is basically 353 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,340 a documentation of all of our minimum requirements 354 00:33:45,340 --> 00:33:48,660 at the very least, contractually regulatory speaking, 355 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,820 what must we be doing? 356 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,980 So this is with respect to both our raw water system 357 00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:56,340 or state water project system, 358 00:33:56,340 --> 00:34:05,720 Or, you know, morongo-based pipeline and lobby-river pipeline and, uh, organ wash pipeline and then also what we're doing on our cube and our portable system. 359 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:14,540 Um, regulatory, the regulatory requirements to putting water quality, uh, issues and obligations of the judgment all fall under that category. 360 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,800 So, gathering all that information, bring it all together into one authoritative document 361 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,620 in the focus of this current task. 362 00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:31,860 As obligations change in the future, that document can continue to be updated and brought 363 00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:37,400 up to speed so that it would then feed a criticality and risk assessment to essentially go through 364 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,460 that cyclical process. 365 00:34:41,050 --> 00:34:57,890 4 elements that make up, you know, port ordered obligations to the judgment, ordinance 9, connection agreements, various permits that we have to operate under, of course, public safety, and those are all the elements that make up the level of service. 366 00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:31,630 Parameters include real engineering type of parameters, pressure, disinfection requirements, fire flow requirements, certifications, permits. And so all of those, all of those things that together are what we derived from all those requirements. So here on the right is a snippet of the document. The document is quite large. But as an example, it's about taking those requirements and 367 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:35,130 and translate them into set points and parameters 368 00:35:35,130 --> 00:35:40,250 that we can actually review and check and test again 369 00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:43,450 so we can continue to monitor how we are performing. 370 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:48,050 So next step, 371 00:35:50,860 --> 00:35:51,860 we're trying to identify 372 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:53,280 the baseline level of service, 373 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:57,340 essentially where we must be performing at 374 00:35:57,340 --> 00:35:58,940 in order to meet our obligations 375 00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:01,860 under permit requirements and agreements. 376 00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:05,240 But following the criticality and risk assessment 377 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:13,960 and then later on in the process where we start to throw assumptions that or I get an understanding of the cost associated with the program. 378 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:24,820 We'll understand and be able to present the alternatives to the board for discussion and direction ultimately to staff as to where to land on level of service. 379 00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:39,200 So understanding baseline level of service, but a later discussion later on in the year, we'll expect to bring this back with better information about costs so that the work can choose to adjust the level of service from the baseline. 380 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,240 current 381 00:36:43,340 --> 00:36:50,220 roadmap. We are in undertaking tasks one and two. Those are really about data gathering, 382 00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:57,260 collection, coalescing of information, and putting together our institutional knowledge on our 383 00:36:57,260 --> 00:37:04,560 assets and how they, and their intended function and how they're intended to function. The next steps 384 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:11,000 are really the core of the analysis, which are the criticality and risk assessment, the condition 385 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,120 assessment which is essentially a report card on our current assets and how they're performing against that. 386 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:22,300 Then tasks 5 and 6 will look at asset management strategies and financial forecasting. 387 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:31,980 At this point, we'll have the information required that we would like to provide the board with the discussion of level of service and potential alternative. 388 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:37,820 And then finally, we wrap up with task 7, which is the annual asset management plan. 389 00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:49,040 This will be the first. The timing is set to be at the end of this year and the plan is going forward that we will continue to develop an annual as a mentor plan. 390 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:58,760 By the end of the calendar year, which will feed in naturally to the budgeting process so that we have a better understanding of the maintenance rehab replacement. 391 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,980 and capital expenditures will be taken on going forward. 392 00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:11,390 And that ends the presentation. 393 00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:14,810 So I'm happy to take any questions the Board may have this time. 394 00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:16,750 Thank you, Adnan. 395 00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:20,070 I would like to open it up to the public. 396 00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:24,010 Do I have any public that would like to comment on this item 397 00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:25,190 and then I'll move on to the board. 398 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160 This is an ongoing process. 399 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,940 So we'll look forward to continued input. 400 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,820 I'll open with Director Raleigh. Any comments or questions? 401 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:49,460 No questions other than looks good. 402 00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:57,480 Thanks for your due diligence on this and look forward like President Hayher said moving it forward. 403 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,760 Thank you. 404 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,320 And director page. 405 00:39:06,350 --> 00:39:11,090 Yes. Thank you. This came before the committee that I chair. 406 00:39:11,090 --> 00:39:15,250 And one of the things that came up is that we really did want to hear. 407 00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:20,390 We obviously forwarded this onto the board, but we wanted to hear discussion and comments 408 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:24,610 from the rest of the board members regarding this. 409 00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:30,470 So when it comes time, I'll make the motion if that's what the board would like. 410 00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:37,390 But it came before the committee had great discussion, but we do want to hear what the other board members think. 411 00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:37,890 Thank you. 412 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:43,870 This is just a workshop director page, so we'll just be opening up for comments, so no 413 00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:45,010 motion at this time. 414 00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:53,390 Thank you for reminding me of that, I forget, but we did want to just hear more from the 415 00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:53,870 board members. 416 00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:55,070 All right. 417 00:39:55,410 --> 00:39:57,730 Director Limbaugh, you're good for a comment. 418 00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:58,470 that we know that. 419 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,340 Not this time, though. 420 00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:27,720 Let's keep, let's keep, manage our assets and trying to figure out which ones we need to improve and which ones we need to continue. So I think per review is always a good thing. It might even give us some new ideas and how to proceed and prevent that curve from crossing on the expenditures and rev. Thank you, Director Limbaugh. Director Cox. 421 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,960 Thank you, Madam President. 422 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:39,560 And then it is critically important for us to manage our assets. 423 00:40:40,060 --> 00:40:47,040 I would like to see and cultured in this process and in the presentations, the mantra 424 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:53,960 that if it's not broken, we're not going to replace it just because a date on the calendar 425 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,500 says, oh, it's reached up to lessons. 426 00:40:56,500 --> 00:41:02,700 We know in our environment we get many, many years more of life of certain 427 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:09,820 occurrences. So please have that incorporated in this because this is a document in 428 00:41:09,820 --> 00:41:16,720 a process that will be used by the agency for many, many years to come and we 429 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:22,700 certainly want those that come after us to realize that a date doesn't 430 00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:30,440 generate the immediate action to change a piece of a pertinent. So, I would just appreciate 431 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,740 that thought being incorporated. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. I think staff and 432 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:42,160 your fellow board members are hearing you loud and clear and we will move on to Director Ventura. 433 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,840 A 434 00:41:45,650 --> 00:41:53,750 good presentation. I look at this and I need to mimic what Director Cox said. It's not 435 00:41:53,750 --> 00:42:00,270 broke. Don't fix it. Somewhat was driven by technology in some areas. Changes take place 436 00:42:00,270 --> 00:42:05,750 where you need to do the fix things or change things out that you really could probably use 437 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:10,730 a lot longer, but you just can't wait because the system doesn't allow for information purposes. 438 00:42:10,730 --> 00:42:19,530 So I think it's great that we're going to go hand on our assets and I get well needed and I certainly appreciate the purchase being taken. 439 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:20,410 Thank you. 440 00:42:20,930 --> 00:42:22,350 Thank you, Director Ventura. 441 00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:29,430 I'll go to staff any closing comments and we'll move to close the workshop if there are none, but staff any comments? 442 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:29,930 An 443 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,100 additional comment? 444 00:42:34,580 --> 00:42:35,100 Excellent. 445 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:42,420 All right, so thank you for those two workshops, very informative, great to keep the board, 446 00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:48,200 the public everyone informed, and we'll move on to the consent calendar, which is adopt 447 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:54,960 board actions from regular meeting, dated January 13, 2022, approve category B payments, 448 00:42:55,540 --> 00:43:03,020 consider adoption of resolution 1112-22, authorizing remote teleconference meetings pursuant 449 00:43:03,020 --> 00:43:07,760 to AB 361. I will look for a motion from a board member. 450 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,420 Box second. 451 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,360 I have a first and a second. Roll call please. 452 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,180 Director Page. 453 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:20,800 Yes. 454 00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:22,420 Director Raleigh. 455 00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:24,220 Aye. 456 00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:25,780 Director Ventura. 457 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,660 Director Limbaugh. 458 00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:31,220 Yes. 459 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,160 Director Cox. 460 00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:35,070 Aye. 461 00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:36,670 President Hayhurst. 462 00:43:36,850 --> 00:43:37,010 Yes. 463 00:43:39,110 --> 00:43:39,930 Passes unanimously. 464 00:43:39,930 --> 00:43:46,830 We'll move on to item number 10, consider the evaporative cooler study presented by the 465 00:43:46,830 --> 00:43:49,030 Mojave Resource Conservation District. 466 00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:54,590 And this was heard in committee, and I know we were looking forward to the full board's 467 00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:55,070 comments. 468 00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:59,590 You know, so we deal so often in big numbers and big concepts. 469 00:44:00,230 --> 00:44:03,810 And as desert dwellers, we understand evaporative coolers. 470 00:44:04,310 --> 00:44:06,430 And so this is very real to us. 471 00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:08,270 I look forward to this conversation. 472 00:44:08,270 --> 00:44:10,170 and General Manager Febo, 473 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:11,710 I'll let you open this for us. 474 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:15,550 Yeah, so like you were saying, 475 00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:18,370 we work pretty proactively with the state 476 00:44:18,370 --> 00:44:23,110 to develop water use and conservation targets and measures 477 00:44:23,110 --> 00:44:26,690 and one area that has been lacking 478 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:30,370 is consideration of water use by evaporative coolers. 479 00:44:30,850 --> 00:44:33,430 So we've endeavored on this study 480 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:35,010 or being with Tony Walters 481 00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:38,590 to estimate the fact that that predicts cooler water use. 482 00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:43,030 And I'll hand it over to Nick Schneider to introduce. 483 00:44:44,860 --> 00:44:45,680 Thank you, gentlemen. 484 00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:46,300 Revevo. 485 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,240 Yes. 486 00:44:48,180 --> 00:44:49,900 Board and President of the board. 487 00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:51,920 We thank you for allowing us to present this. 488 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:54,640 This is a long time coming. 489 00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:58,220 We've been working on this study for about 18 months now. 490 00:44:58,900 --> 00:44:59,980 And this is kind of. 491 00:45:00,050 --> 00:45:29,090 There's a combination of the water use that we're seeing from these evaporative coolers. The reason in the need for this study is basically when the state decided to come up with a new water budget for water conservation purposes, these evaporative coolers really didn't have a place. There's an indoor water use, there's an outdoor water use, but these are kind of a tweeter water use. So we're trying to come up with a way to include them in that water budget. 492 00:45:29,090 --> 00:45:31,950 if we're trying to come up with a way to allow them 493 00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:33,590 to be included as they variance. 494 00:45:34,090 --> 00:45:36,250 So without further ado, I'm gonna turn it over to Tony 495 00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:38,410 so he can go over some of the study that he did. 496 00:45:38,590 --> 00:45:38,890 And I hope 497 00:45:41,770 --> 00:45:42,130 he... 498 00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:43,130 Okay, thank you, Nick. 499 00:45:43,310 --> 00:45:44,330 Can everybody hear me, okay? 500 00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:45,710 Yes. 501 00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:48,090 Okay, thank you. 502 00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:50,670 So I just wanna take a second 503 00:45:50,670 --> 00:45:52,850 and just thank a couple of people 504 00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:54,490 that helped get this study going. 505 00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:57,530 Definitely Nick Schneider was very pivotal 506 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:59,370 in making the connections that we needed 507 00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:08,790 with other water agencies. Joshua Basin water, Kathleen Raddish and Mark Bann. At the Latter, 508 00:46:09,110 --> 00:46:13,310 part of the study, without them we wouldn't have been able to get the meters we needed to complete 509 00:46:13,310 --> 00:46:18,750 the study. So I want to say a big thank you to them and also my technician, Luis Cortez, 510 00:46:19,070 --> 00:46:25,850 that was my right hand because we were split between feeling and Joshua Basin. So we had a lot of 511 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:30,810 traveling to do and so we're running around a lot but we got her done so thank 512 00:46:30,810 --> 00:46:33,150 you. Go ahead Nick next slide. 513 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,120 You know the purpose of the study was we wanted 514 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,880 to quantify the consumption of use of that evaporative core. You know there's 515 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,880 some different numbers out there but we need to know what's going on in our area. 516 00:46:51,660 --> 00:46:57,040 So we wanted to try to determine the daily average use and what we did is we 517 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,500 averaged all those evaporative coolers across the different areas to get a 518 00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:07,820 number. And it's important, because as we know, many households rely upon these evaporative 519 00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:13,520 coolers as our primary source of cooling in the summer. We always read about, you know, 520 00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:20,580 folks getting exhaustion in the summer, and especially the elderly, medically fragile, 521 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:27,560 and lower socioeconomic, that's our only way to cool off in the summertime. So it was really 522 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,200 important that we try to get some kind of number together. Go ahead Nick. 523 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:36,380 With the help of Joshua 524 00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:44,740 Basin water we rounded up 31 participants to partake in the study. Some people are like you could 525 00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:53,100 only get 31. Yes it took a lot of work to get just 31 people on board. There was just a lot of 526 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:59,320 you know red tape and different things and we had to assure people that you know no we're not 527 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,620 going to tell on you how much water you use. We're just trying to get this number to benefit you 528 00:48:03,620 --> 00:48:09,140 in the long run. So the participants we got were from Apple Valley Joshua Tree, 529 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:14,760 a certain valley in feeling. The evaporative cooler and raw inspected to make sure that they're in 530 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:23,180 good working order and they're not leaking. We use the eye pearl. It's a magnetor to actually read 531 00:48:23,180 --> 00:48:27,000 the water coming into the evaporative cooler. 532 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,940 We reduced it down to a quarter inch from three quarters of an inch. 533 00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:38,080 The mechanical meters we found out could not read the lower flows that were needed to collect the data. 534 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,960 But the mag meters were so we went with the eye probes. 535 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:42,700 Next slide. 536 00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:50,210 So the meters were installed and we took readings at the beginning, 537 00:48:50,990 --> 00:48:53,890 at the install and when we removed the meters, 538 00:48:54,770 --> 00:49:01,610 The participants were instructed to monitor and report if there's any leaks and not to remove the meters. 539 00:49:02,410 --> 00:49:10,450 We did have to disqualify. I believe four participants because they took the meters off or they moved and didn't tell us. 540 00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:15,630 And people moved in or we had dandelism on a couple of the meters also. 541 00:49:15,630 --> 00:49:24,750 So I think we had a total of 27 at the end, but we did have to go out and fix some leaks, and that was all noted. 542 00:49:26,090 --> 00:49:29,330 Participants also reported the days the coolers were not in use. 543 00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:34,370 So if they took the vacation, we had a fire season where there's a lot of smoke. 544 00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:38,430 So from folks have the evaporative coolers off for over a week. 545 00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:40,750 So we didn't note that when we did the calculations. 546 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:42,350 Next slide. 547 00:49:44,570 --> 00:49:48,210 So, here's the nitty-gritty that everyone kind of wants, right? 548 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:50,670 This is the data that we accumulated. 549 00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:56,570 Overall, we got a daily average of 52 gallons per day. 550 00:49:57,330 --> 00:49:59,990 Now, we know those of us that have ev- 551 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:30,060 We did figure out just me being a nerd and one of my friends being a nerd that we were taking some hourly readings and some daily readings. And we found something interesting that when the temperature out here got above about 98 degrees into the high level. 552 00:50:30,740 --> 00:50:44,320 That we were going from an average use of around 75 to 80 gallons per day up to over 90. So there's a lot of factors that play into this and you know, there's a lot of variables. 553 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:54,800 But we do what we could do with the time we had and the well, we had to work with as far as equipment and we came up with that 52 gallons per day. 554 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,700 Next slide, Nick. 555 00:51:00,490 --> 00:51:03,630 So, as I said, the data shows 52 gallons a day. 556 00:51:04,310 --> 00:51:07,410 And if you looked at it, there are some large differences. 557 00:51:07,850 --> 00:51:09,810 And I wanted to pick on two customers. 558 00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:13,310 Customers are eight and nine from Joshua Tree. 559 00:51:13,930 --> 00:51:17,790 I'm picking on them because they are exactly identical. 560 00:51:18,110 --> 00:51:21,590 They are in an apartment complex, exact same script footage, 561 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:23,670 exact same colors. 562 00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:34,590 The only difference is customer eight is a retired couple and customer nine is a person that works during the day. 563 00:51:35,490 --> 00:51:37,690 So they're not home during the hottest part of the day. 564 00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:45,250 And so it's interesting to point out that, you know, the folks that need it the most do use more water. 565 00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:52,310 And a lot of it boils down to how the person operates that cooler and we know that in some 566 00:51:52,310 --> 00:51:58,270 of these areas you have to run that cooler pretty much all day to cool the place down. 567 00:52:00,170 --> 00:52:06,890 And so, you know, one had 77 gallons, the other one had 43 and it just goes down to how that 568 00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:08,470 customer uses that cooler. 569 00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:10,330 Go ahead, next slide, Nick. 570 00:52:10,330 --> 00:52:11,370 So, 571 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:27,440 you know, the data shows there's many variables, right, further research could be done to eliminate some of those variables, but what we had to work with and, you know, the time frame, we came up with our 52 gallon per day. 572 00:52:28,820 --> 00:52:33,820 You know, we could refine the studies down, tracking both the electrical and water use. 573 00:52:33,820 --> 00:52:50,080 I started doing that on my own expense and the numbers are kind of interesting, but, you know, the day it gives us a snapshot of our evaporative pool reuse in this area, and that's what we need. 574 00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:57,220 So I know it was quick. I know you guys are busy. Please, if you have any questions, I'm here. Let me know. 575 00:52:57,220 --> 00:53:02,460 So Nick, I have a lot of information too, so please just ask away. 576 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,140 And thank you for the opportunity to do this. 577 00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:06,460 We appreciate it. 578 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,640 Thank you President Hayer. 579 00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:10,820 It's just before we turn it back over to the board. 580 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,480 I would like to add one thing. 581 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,440 One of the important pieces to note from this. 582 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,680 And yes, it was a smaller study. 583 00:53:19,260 --> 00:53:24,380 What we're trying to do is verify a number that was put out by the state of California. 584 00:53:24,380 --> 00:53:30,080 you know, that was done in electrical studies. So they did an analytical study and their 585 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,860 number came back with not a not 586 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,800 pursue further. So our feeling is this 52 gallons per day will 587 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:45,980 be something that the state can use to reassess and reevaluate though the other analytical 588 00:53:45,980 --> 00:53:54,360 studies that they did. So the state looked at the same Joshua Basin water company and determined 589 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,600 and that there wasn't enough, a lot of water use 590 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,840 from these evaporative coolers. 591 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,500 And thanks to Tony and thanks to the RCD, 592 00:54:00,980 --> 00:54:03,100 we now know that that's not the truth 593 00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:04,100 and that's not the case. 594 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,500 And we have a number of gallons of water 595 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:07,800 that are not being accounted for. 596 00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:10,480 And so that's something that we want to know for the board. 597 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,060 And once this is accepted, 598 00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:16,300 we will be sending this to UC Davis as well as DWR 599 00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:19,280 for their inclusion into this variant study. 600 00:54:21,930 --> 00:54:22,710 Thank you, Nick. 601 00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:23,690 And thank you, Tony. 602 00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:24,730 Please stay with us. 603 00:54:24,730 --> 00:54:29,550 both of you as I'm sure you will. I'm going to open it up for any comments from the public, 604 00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:31,950 and then I will move on to board dialogue. 605 00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,260 Madam Chair, this is Chuck Bell again. Yes, Chuck, 606 00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:45,800 please proceed. Okay, this is me as a resource conservation district. Tony and Nick did an excellent 607 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:55,800 job on this. And if MWA needs any help in trying to convince our local legislators to convince 608 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,020 to state how important this is in terms of future allocations. 609 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:29,180 We have lists of people. We have contacts with water districts and others that may be able to chime in both with Smitty and Senator Grove and whoever else might be involved. So, if you need some help on that, please let us know. And that's it. And again, Tony and Nick, a good job on it. And thank you on behalf of the RCD. Thank you, Chess. Appreciate your comments. This item was heard. I believe my page. 610 00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:37,440 this is your committee. So I'll open with you and this will take a motion to approve the study, 611 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,860 but I will open with your comments, Director Page. 612 00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:44,490 Yes, it's come before the committee. We just 613 00:55:44,490 --> 00:55:51,010 really appreciated all the hard work and all the volunteers that help with this program. I think 614 00:55:51,010 --> 00:55:58,510 it's all been said why that is so important to this area. A couple of us on the committee, if not all 615 00:55:58,510 --> 00:56:04,970 of us have the evaporated poolers. It's very interesting to us. It's an important issue 616 00:56:04,970 --> 00:56:12,050 up here. And when it's time, I'll make the emotion to accept this study. Thank you. 617 00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:14,610 Thank you, Director Page Director Ventura. 618 00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:23,280 Thank you. I have a couple of questions. On the on the coolers that you had the study, 619 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,780 did the folks have thermostatic control of those or religious on and all switches? 620 00:56:29,780 --> 00:56:36,800 Most did not. They just ran them. A few people did. And there wasn't that large of a difference 621 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:43,200 between the ones that did and the ones that didn't. Clearly because, as you know, if you have 622 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,160 an evaporative cooler, if you want the house to be cool at three o'clock or two o'clock in the afternoon, 623 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,780 you have to crank it on early in the morning and get the whole whole house screwed down. That's how 624 00:56:54,780 --> 00:57:02,160 most people run them. And especially in like Joshua Tree area as you know it's still you know by 625 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:08,820 9 a.m. it you know it's 90 degrees or more even here sometimes. So there wasn't that big of a 626 00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:14,020 difference and there's only like four people I believe in the study I have to look at my notes 627 00:57:14,020 --> 00:57:15,600 that actually had thermostat. 628 00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:21,860 The core I have is one that maybe Nick mentioned 629 00:57:21,860 --> 00:57:29,460 presentation to the finance and personal committee meeting with the test. I have a cooler up-to-date 630 00:57:29,460 --> 00:57:38,500 cooler that dumps water every 11 hours, operating hours, and I did my own study on that because I only 631 00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:48,920 use about on normal basis about three units a month, and that's 750 gallons per each unit. And I 632 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:57,300 and some of the time I go from 3 to about 4, and the water I currently use when it dumps 633 00:57:57,300 --> 00:58:03,820 it goes into a makeshift irrigation system that goes out in water plants, but when I disconnect 634 00:58:03,820 --> 00:58:10,980 that and run it into a 10 gallon bucket, and it seemed like it was dumping water every 635 00:58:10,980 --> 00:58:16,660 11, approximately 11 hours of operation, I'm thermostatic control, so it wasn't 24 hours 636 00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:23,820 day, it was less than that 15, 15 hours possibly. And I was accumulating over a 24-hour period 637 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:30,600 just right at 10 gallons per day if I was operating it with a thermostat. 638 00:58:32,060 --> 00:58:37,980 And Nick was talking about some of the conservation programs. That could be one for future use 639 00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:45,160 about installing some thermostats. I was like to say, I've been in the homes that have the old, 640 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:53,260 but just the only off-switch and they are freezing and yeah so you need to run it with a thermostat 641 00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:57,040 where you don't have to turn it on off and those type things. So anyway it's a great presentation 642 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,880 and a good study. I appreciate all the information you gathered. Thank you. So good news 643 00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:11,440 through the outreach program that we do for you guys. I do include swamcours now in that 644 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,160 and I talked to people about using it for irrigation and 645 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:21,460 stalling thermostats and also about just disconnecting that dump and dumping 646 00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:28,160 it maybe once a month or once every couple months or as needed so this 647 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,400 doesn't actually open our eyes on that we include it now in that outreach 648 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:38,320 education that we do yeah I do I do have on the thermostat that I have was a I can 649 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,800 and stop that dumping of water. 650 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,460 Yeah, that's a fish. 651 00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:43,900 And when I do that once in a while, 652 00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:45,220 it depends on what's happening, 653 00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:48,100 but yeah, I think a thermocytic control 654 00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:50,340 though is probably pretty crucial in these days. 655 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,660 So thanks again. 656 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,200 Thank you, Director Ventura, Director Limbaugh comments. 657 01:00:03,020 --> 01:00:32,800 Yeah, sometimes I can't find the button on time. I like to study one, because if you all recall in 2014, when the state started making mandates on water use, they neglected to say that the high desert areas, particularly out there, the folks in Yucca and Morocco, have some of the lowest per capita water use rates in the state, maybe in the country. And when they make sweeping 658 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:41,700 mandates about water uses for domestic use. And I'm going to use your word Kimberly because I 659 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:49,080 love them. We should be incarcerated about evaporator coolers in the high desert because the 660 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:56,780 energy savings from an evaporator cooler is a green item that is very desirable in the high desert. 661 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:02,560 And as you know, since we have the Arab climate, it makes life much more comfortable in the summer 662 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:09,140 here. So even though this study is a small piece, I think it it eludes to the fact 663 01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:15,240 that the high desert community has a special ingredients when it comes to water 664 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,180 use. And this would be one ingredient if the state mandates water use by 665 01:01:19,180 --> 01:01:25,300 single-family residences and per person use that this would be a good thing to 666 01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:29,380 exempt because it does go to the health and wealth of the people who live in our 667 01:01:29,380 --> 01:01:32,660 So it's a it's a put in the right direction. 668 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,200 Appreciate your comments, Director Limbaugh, Director Cox. 669 01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:46,810 Thank you, Madam President. Mike, you can borrow my words anytime you want to. 670 01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:54,830 And I appreciate you giving the background on that for some of our newer directors. 671 01:01:55,970 --> 01:02:05,590 When the last drought came around and the state board issued some very, very punitive 672 01:02:06,070 --> 01:02:14,610 measures against our desert water districts, a study like this would have been amazing 673 01:02:14,610 --> 01:02:15,770 at that time. 674 01:02:15,930 --> 01:02:17,570 But we learned from that. 675 01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:21,370 Hopefully this will help provide some education. 676 01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:35,570 I think the numbers are very low for the EVAP use, but it's better than what we have had in the past. 677 01:02:36,690 --> 01:02:48,460 I'd like to know what do we see as next, engaging in a more in a scientific study 678 01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:56,780 study that would be conducted by a university or just turning the data that we have now over to 679 01:02:56,780 --> 01:03:03,460 the state and seeing what they do. Nick, what do you envision the next step of this to be? 680 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:09,120 Yeah, I think the answer to that question is both of those. We will be turning over the data 681 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:15,860 to UC Davis and I have a contact at Department of Water Resources that we're working with on this 682 01:03:15,860 --> 01:03:22,340 and they were the initiators with the analytical study and they realized we were doing this as well, 683 01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:27,760 and we're very excited to kind of receive these numbers. And I think ultimately it's going to lead 684 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:36,000 to a larger physical study of these water uses. I think using the analytical methods that they're 685 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:44,710 utilizing just wasn't strong of water use, but I think seeing and actually experiencing the physical 686 01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:48,590 of this study they'll understand, but there is quite a bit of water use there. 687 01:03:48,850 --> 01:03:51,850 I also agree with you. It probably is low. 688 01:03:52,450 --> 01:03:55,190 But you can see some of those numbers in that study. 689 01:03:55,390 --> 01:04:00,050 They are quite high for people that are full-time residents and don't go to work. 690 01:04:00,350 --> 01:04:02,890 So there's definitely a need to consider this. 691 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:11,470 So are we going to draft up a white paper with the outlining methodology 692 01:04:11,470 --> 01:04:15,230 and the findings here, or are we just going to turn over the data? 693 01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:17,990 No, we have a white paper that's been written. 694 01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:26,610 Okay, I didn't see that in the agenda packet. 695 01:04:26,730 --> 01:04:29,130 Is it part of our material? 696 01:04:30,850 --> 01:04:33,390 If it's not, I can make sure that you get a copy of it. 697 01:04:33,710 --> 01:04:36,130 Okay, I think the board would be interested in that. 698 01:04:37,130 --> 01:04:39,130 Excellent. Yes, I was definitely forward that along. 699 01:04:39,830 --> 01:04:42,250 Okay. Thank you. That's all I had, Madam President. 700 01:04:42,250 --> 01:04:48,410 Thank you, Director Cox. Director Raleigh has left the meeting, has another commitment. 701 01:04:49,170 --> 01:04:52,450 So I'll go back to Director Page for a motion. 702 01:04:54,930 --> 01:04:57,870 Yes, I'll make the motion to accept this study. 703 01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:59,990 I would be happy. 704 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:09,770 Happy to make that second. Roll call, please. Director Limbaugh. Yes. Director Ventura. 705 01:05:12,020 --> 01:05:20,460 Yes. Director Page. Yes. Director Cox. Aye. President Hayhurst. Yes. 706 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:34,460 Good discussion. Thank you. We will go on to item number 11, which is consider authorization of professional services to Zendero for the annual supply and demand 707 01:05:34,460 --> 01:05:37,060 and assessment and other related planning work. 708 01:05:37,340 --> 01:05:38,380 General Manager Febo. 709 01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:40,680 Yes, thank you. 710 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:45,600 So just back on item 10 to respond to director Cox 711 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,460 and for the rest of the board and public, 712 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,920 the white paper is attached to the agenda 713 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,080 as the second supporting documentation item. 714 01:05:54,620 --> 01:05:57,220 So it is there for review 715 01:05:57,220 --> 01:06:00,720 and we will, we can send that out again as well. 716 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:10,780 For this item, we are, the agency is required, along with all other urban providers to develop 717 01:06:10,780 --> 01:06:18,160 the Urban Water Management Plan that identifies our, it projects our water supply needs and 718 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:26,720 compares those with water supply availability. That plan is updated every five years and there 719 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:33,580 has now been a new addition to the requirement where we do an annual update to make that comparison 720 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:40,940 between our available supplies and our current annual demands to ensure that we're able to meet those demands. 721 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:48,720 And along with that is to develop a contingency plan if we are not able to meet those demands. 722 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:54,360 And so this item is to use the professional services 723 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,220 as they have Gero and in addition 724 01:06:58,220 --> 01:07:00,240 to helping us with those two items, 725 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,780 they'll also be providing consulting services to us 726 01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:06,300 for grant writing and planning services 727 01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:08,320 that we don't currently have in town. 728 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,680 So we do generally try to do as much as we can 729 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:12,840 with the staff that we have, 730 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,780 but these are particular items that we just currently 731 01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:22,580 don't have expertise in house to perform and require the professional services of experts. 732 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:29,040 So with that, I will hand it over to Nick Schneider to walk through this item. 733 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:35,300 Thank you again, General Andrew Femmo. That was a fantastic presentation on what we're going 734 01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:42,020 to be talking about today. And I'll just fill in some of the gaps from what you said. And then also, 735 01:07:42,020 --> 01:07:48,540 So I have Adnan and I'm Tawi with us as well, I believe he's still online, and he, I'm 736 01:07:48,540 --> 01:07:53,380 going to turn it over to him to go over some of the additional planning services that 737 01:07:53,380 --> 01:07:57,920 we're looking at utilizing through Zengerro and Widen's is important. 738 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:03,100 And so just before I get started, you may have never heard of this name before unless you 739 01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:11,360 were on the PRT call, Zengerro is a new name for the original company known as Tully and 740 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:18,920 young Gwen Moore-Tully and Greg Young wrote our Urban Water Management Plan after considerable 741 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:26,300 vetting, considerable interviews and many different times to speak with them. They were selected 742 01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:32,500 to write our urban water management plan. One of the important things to note is the reason they were 743 01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:38,520 selected was their innovative nature, their creative nature, that they're kind of thinking outside 744 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:45,160 of the box when it comes to some of these planning documents, they have a unique intimate knowledge 745 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:54,240 of California water. Mr. Tully is an attorney by trade and Mr. Young is a water engineer, 746 01:08:54,660 --> 01:08:57,880 so they have a great team and they work very well together. 747 01:09:03,730 --> 01:09:05,070 As stated, we are going to talk about 748 01:09:05,070 --> 01:09:10,610 the annual supply assessment, water shortage contingency plan requirements, some grant writing, 749 01:09:10,610 --> 01:09:17,260 and other planning services and then ultimately we're going to end with a recommendation from us. 750 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,600 The annual supply assessment, this is a very important piece that came out of the last drought. 751 01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:32,080 If you recall the 2011 to 2015 drought was a five year period of some of the lowest water availability in California history. 752 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:39,280 After this was a time, after this time period, the state of California and the legislature 753 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,880 implemented a series of updates to the Urban Water Urban Planning Act. 754 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:52,240 These updates were to develop a drop-proofing method for the various urban plans and urban 755 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,960 providers throughout the state of California. 756 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,800 So our urban, well, urban water management plan must be submitted. 757 01:10:00,270 --> 01:10:30,090 25 years, and it has a 20 year look out into the future of water use. We take ours a little bit further, and this is one of the things that was very innovative about our use of Mr. Tully, Mr. Young. They looked at everything, they looked at all the different pieces, and we actually took this a step further, and we looked out 25, 35, 40, even 45 years into the future to ensure that we were being able to supply a sustainable water source to the citizens. 758 01:10:30,090 --> 01:10:31,750 that live here in our region. 759 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:35,130 But what the state is now asking us to do 760 01:10:35,130 --> 01:10:38,670 as part of these adjustments to the Urban Planning Act 761 01:10:38,670 --> 01:10:41,270 is, so you've done your urban plan, 762 01:10:41,790 --> 01:10:43,170 you've put these numbers together, 763 01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:44,530 let's verify those numbers. 764 01:10:44,930 --> 01:10:47,990 So we now have to go every year and look back 765 01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:49,670 at all of our different supply pieces 766 01:10:49,670 --> 01:10:53,350 that we assemble within our urban plan. 767 01:10:53,630 --> 01:10:56,790 So we have natural supply, we have important supply, 768 01:10:57,070 --> 01:10:58,730 we have recharge supply, 769 01:10:58,730 --> 01:11:03,070 which I excuse me reclaim supply and then we have an additional imported 770 01:11:03,070 --> 01:11:07,950 reclaim supply. So we have to then go back and look at all four of those pieces 771 01:11:07,950 --> 01:11:13,090 to see what actually happened. Did our numbers match up to what we assumed it 772 01:11:13,090 --> 01:11:18,750 would match up? Then the state will take the actually we will take those numbers and 773 01:11:18,750 --> 01:11:24,310 look at how much demand we had versus those numbers. If at any point during the 774 01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:31,390 next five years we see our demand outpacing our supply we must implement our 775 01:11:31,390 --> 01:11:36,790 water shortage contingency plan and the state will tell us how much of and how 776 01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:42,650 far we need to go with that implementation so there's there's six stages of 777 01:11:42,650 --> 01:11:47,450 our water shortage contingency plan and they will tell us well actually the water 778 01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:52,110 supply assessment will tell us which stage to go to so for example if we're 10 779 01:11:52,110 --> 01:12:07,110 10% over on our demand numbers, we must go to the stage that says that we are 10% over and then we will have to have voluntary and even mandatory water savings throughout the region to ensure that we are able to meet the demands. 780 01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:16,930 Since our urban plan is a regional style urban plan, we work very closely with our water retail providers. 781 01:12:17,910 --> 01:12:26,970 We have to have a good relationship between all those different people and all those different groups so that we all can have the same numbers and they can add up together. 782 01:12:27,850 --> 01:12:32,270 And so that's where the next piece comes into play, the water shortage contingency plan. 783 01:12:32,490 --> 01:12:39,970 And so our water shortage contingency plan is a relational plan where we will work with those retail partners. 784 01:12:39,970 --> 01:12:52,410 and Mr. Zengero will help us to continue those relationships, continue to develop and implement this water shortage contingency plan with those retail partners. 785 01:12:52,750 --> 01:13:05,710 And one thing I'd like to note here is Zengero, or at the time tell you young, were involved with several of the other retail partners either on an intimate level where they completed the urban plan. 786 01:13:05,710 --> 01:13:09,910 or they met with all of the other urban suppliers directly 787 01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:11,570 to ensure that all of our numbers 788 01:13:11,570 --> 01:13:12,870 were going to work together. 789 01:13:13,370 --> 01:13:17,070 So there is already a relationship between Zingero, 790 01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:19,530 our retail partners in the MWA. 791 01:13:19,890 --> 01:13:22,930 So this is an extension of that original planning document 792 01:13:22,930 --> 01:13:26,890 and the original relationship that we developed last year 793 01:13:26,890 --> 01:13:28,130 to develop this work. 794 01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:33,610 And then moving forward, we have several grants 795 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:40,870 that we are looking to execute here in the next few months, the IRWM 796 01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:47,450 or integrated regional water management plan is our regional relationship 797 01:13:47,450 --> 01:13:51,190 with all of the different individual partners throughout our service area. 798 01:13:51,730 --> 01:13:58,750 We had applied for a prop 1 grant in round 1 and those are now being executed 799 01:13:58,750 --> 01:14:02,410 and they're being, uh, those products are being built, some are being completed, 800 01:14:02,690 --> 01:14:07,370 well, that the state has now implemented round two, which will be due in March, 801 01:14:07,710 --> 01:14:12,690 and we are going to utilize the Zingero Company to develop the grant 802 01:14:12,690 --> 01:14:19,450 application process moving forward. So to break this into numbers in the 803 01:14:19,450 --> 01:14:23,310 Lahonton region, we have approximately $1.2 million available 804 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:27,450 for these grant services, and Zingero has up 805 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,000 to two projects 806 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:36,880 for this this work and then in the Colorado region you may have recalled we had just developed a 807 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:45,880 split of the funding for all of the remaining dollars in this pot and our portion came out to be 808 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:54,700 $2.5 million and of this Zangero will write up to five projects for the $75,000 that they are 809 01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:59,840 putting together for this proposal. The one piece that is important. 810 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,820 Part of this proposal is some of that money, and I would say a good portion of that money will be reimbursed to the agency and will be coming back to us by whichever proponent will be applying for these grant dollars. So, for example, if we utilize the city of Victor, and I'm picking on them because they had a project in round one, they will pick up all of the costs for any applications. 811 01:15:29,820 --> 01:15:32,520 and then ultimately any of the grant writing services. 812 01:15:32,980 --> 01:15:36,600 So we will delineate whatever is the total cost of the grant 813 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:41,600 and it is a weighted average by how much money they decide to pursue 814 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,900 in these grant applications, and they will pay that weighted average 815 01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:48,100 of their portion of this grant writing service. 816 01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:55,980 And then at this point, I'd like to introduce this. 817 01:15:56,140 --> 01:16:00,640 And then if Adnan is on, turn it over to him for one minute 818 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,820 so that he can go over this as well. 819 01:16:01,820 --> 01:16:08,540 Well, we are starting to work on implementing and updating our IRWM or our integrated regional 820 01:16:08,540 --> 01:16:09,380 water management plan. 821 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,700 Again, this is something that we have in our strategic plan to be completed by the year 822 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:15,260 2024. 823 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,700 I know that sounds like it's a long time away, but unfortunately this is such a large document 824 01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:21,980 and there's so many moving pieces. 825 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:27,680 There are pieces that we would like to start to work on now starting to develop against some 826 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,720 of the relationships and starting to develop some of the projects and understanding some 827 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,460 of the pieces where we had from 2014 moving into today. 828 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:41,400 So that was 10 years ago when we did the last major piece of this. 829 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:46,780 We have had updates along the way, but this will be another major update to this plan. 830 01:16:47,860 --> 01:16:53,540 And due to Zingeros' intimate knowledge and relations that they've already started to develop, 831 01:16:53,540 --> 01:16:58,220 up, we feel that they're a perfect, consulted team to help us 832 01:16:58,220 --> 01:17:02,240 get further those relationships and continue to develop more of those 833 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:06,000 relationships. So I don't see, as Addnan online. 834 01:17:06,780 --> 01:17:09,240 I'm here next. Thanks. I'll just speak up to the 835 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,520 couple of the points here. So as Nick mentioned, 836 01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:18,780 staff was very happy with the work that Kelly and Young had done 837 01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:21,000 for the Urban Water Management Planning process. 838 01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:27,360 We do prepare a lot of plans, we have a lot of planning efforts, and part of the value 839 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:33,420 is making sure that they all have the same themes and show the same messages and that 840 01:17:33,420 --> 01:17:34,520 are consistent with each other. 841 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:43,120 And to that effect, I think that there could be a lot of value here in San Gero support on 842 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,380 related planning efforts. 843 01:17:44,380 --> 01:17:53,880 So, again, we have a strategic initiative to leave a new update to Irwin by 2024, and 844 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:59,700 so this would sort of lay the foundation for that work, as well as any of some other 845 01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:05,680 planning work that Zengero is offering, which will include things like reviewing some of 846 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:10,980 the Trans-Rand Exchange planning and analysis, ensuring consistency with our current planning 847 01:18:10,980 --> 01:18:17,300 documents in what we're pursuing, stakeholders or facilitation related to planning work 848 01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:24,360 and various other small minor things that come up that are related to the work that they're 849 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:32,480 doing under the annual assessment, rent writing and the like. So this and I think Nick is going to 850 01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:39,360 take back over and talk about the cost for each task, but it's all up to. All of this is going to be 851 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:45,100 initiated by task order and so no money will be spent without written authorization 852 01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:51,440 under especially this on-call portion that they have proposed. So with that, Nick, I can 853 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:58,460 hand it back to you. Yes, thank you. And just to build off of what was just said by Adnan, 854 01:18:59,260 --> 01:19:05,860 this very important note in this portion here is this is up to and not to exceed a portion 855 01:19:05,860 --> 01:19:12,040 of this planning work and at this point I don't anticipate fully spending this before 856 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,220 the end of the fiscal year and we would like to then come back to the board in the beginning 857 01:19:16,220 --> 01:19:22,660 of the next fiscal year to continue this process and we will come back with additional documentation 858 01:19:22,660 --> 01:19:27,780 and additional pieces that we will show the board and what's been happening and what the 859 01:19:27,780 --> 01:19:34,300 Gerald has been able to offer with us. I'd like to jump in as well just to highlight that the entire 860 01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:41,460 Another integrated regional water management planning process is a large endeavor that can 861 01:19:41,460 --> 01:19:47,440 be quite costly and so we will be coming back to the board with that as a separate action 862 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:47,940 item. 863 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:53,720 Most likely we will be doing an RFP process for the integrated regional water management plan. 864 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:59,860 And this is really part of the on-call consulting work that like, 865 01:20:00,620 --> 01:20:18,660 Addnan has said would help lay the foundation for getting to that in a great regional water management planning process, but this is by no means undergoing that effort under this budget. Yes, very good. That's perfectly stated. Thank you. 866 01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:36,480 Over the different pieces. The water shortage contingency planning implementation is the annual supply assessment work will be approximately $35,000. The grant writing services for the 867 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,300 the entire WM grant will be $75,000. 868 01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:46,700 And again, to note there is where the reimbursement will take place and then the other planning work will be the $65,000 number. 869 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:52,460 And so the total cost of this contract will be not to exceed $185,000. 870 01:20:55,310 --> 01:20:58,290 Staff recommends the firms in Jero to perform this work. 871 01:20:59,310 --> 01:21:02,290 The reason being is that we have already had work with the Jero. 872 01:21:02,610 --> 01:21:05,130 They work with our regional partners. They work with our retailers. 873 01:21:05,130 --> 01:21:13,350 They have a deep knowledge of the MWA Act, the Judgment, and MWA's total water use efforts throughout the state. 874 01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:18,570 So, there's a Gerro, as I stated before, was formerly Tully and Young. 875 01:21:19,810 --> 01:21:27,050 One thing I didn't know earlier was Mr. Tully actually worked on our adjudication and had wrote some briefs for our adjudication. 876 01:21:27,370 --> 01:21:29,630 So, he's intimately aware of how that operates as well. 877 01:21:31,570 --> 01:21:34,590 They have done the work with our urban plan. 878 01:21:34,970 --> 01:21:37,010 So this is an extension of work that they've already done. 879 01:21:37,550 --> 01:21:40,230 And it's important for that knowledge base that they have 880 01:21:40,230 --> 01:21:43,810 with the water systems, with the water use that we utilize here 881 01:21:43,810 --> 01:21:46,730 to continue to utilize and work with them. 882 01:21:47,330 --> 01:21:50,290 And then something that we know and understand 883 01:21:50,290 --> 01:21:54,150 could be a concern is we have looked at the hourly rates 884 01:21:54,150 --> 01:21:57,530 as a Jero and compared them to other consultant agencies 885 01:21:57,530 --> 01:22:19,580 throughout the state and they have very competitive hourly rates and this being a professional services agreement is something where we feel we would really like to have developed and and that intimate nature that they've developed with the staff with the retail partners and with the region and allowing them to continue to work with us on these important. 886 01:22:19,580 --> 01:22:20,520 So, 887 01:22:24,290 --> 01:22:30,470 as I stated, I will be requesting as staff requests the Mojave Water Agency Board of Directors 888 01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:34,770 considering entering into a contract for consulting services with the Zingerro Incorporated 889 01:22:34,770 --> 01:22:39,730 to conduct an annual supply assessment, the implementation of the Water shortage contingency 890 01:22:39,730 --> 01:22:43,670 plan, grant writing services, and on call consulting services. 891 01:22:44,110 --> 01:22:49,200 At this point, I'd be happy to open this up for quite a myself or Adnan. 892 01:22:50,060 --> 01:22:53,080 Nick, thank you for the presentation and add-on as well. 893 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,660 This did go before the PRE and O committee, 894 01:22:56,220 --> 01:22:58,160 and so I'll start with Director Page 895 01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,820 and then come back to him for a motion. 896 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,780 Thank you, President Hayhurst. 897 01:23:05,220 --> 01:23:08,680 Boy, it's a problem when you get your notes mixed up. 898 01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:13,080 This is the item that not only came before the committee, 899 01:23:13,420 --> 01:23:16,840 but was the one that the committee not only sent before the board, 900 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,020 but really did want the feedback 901 01:23:19,020 --> 01:23:26,760 back from the other the board members just because nature of it we seem fairly 902 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,620 comfortable with it that we certainly didn't want to hear from the other board 903 01:23:29,620 --> 01:23:34,980 members. That's why it's disappointing that two of them are have had to leave so 904 01:23:34,980 --> 01:23:43,580 early but we are asking for for comments and fully expecting that this will be 905 01:23:43,580 --> 01:23:49,700 pass. So that's my comments from the committee meeting. Thank you. Thank you 906 01:23:49,700 --> 01:23:51,580 Director Page Director Limbaugh. 907 01:23:54,730 --> 01:23:57,730 How do you know when I always have a lot of 908 01:23:57,730 --> 01:24:08,470 things to talk about? Anyway I did listen to the committee meeting and I I have 909 01:24:10,740 --> 01:24:19,000 have a couple direct things under task one and two. I believe that those are very specific 910 01:24:19,530 --> 01:24:26,740 and have end periods. Task one is at the end of February and task two is at the beginning 911 01:24:26,740 --> 01:24:32,560 of July. So I would hope that we would be notified when those things are completed and 912 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:37,340 I think both of them are going to come before the board anyway and that it's duly noted 913 01:24:37,340 --> 01:24:42,280 that they were approved now and completed by Zendales. 914 01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:52,280 The other thing is, when you talk under the on-call services, there's one item 915 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:52,580 that, 916 01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:59,170 and also there, I don't know these people, I've never seen their resumes that I remember. 917 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:28,840 So I don't know who they are. The names don't ring of hell with me. But when I see that they're going to be doing consulting work with regards to groundwater modeling. I don't know who the hydrologist is or the geologist or the person that's involved with that or what they've done prior to doing consulting on groundwater monitoring in our area. And I think that's a key element of experience. 918 01:25:29,460 --> 01:25:35,860 not only with the Mojave or other basins in our area but what they've done statewide with 919 01:25:35,860 --> 01:25:43,580 the guards to ground water modeling because I believe we have pretty qualified people on staff. 920 01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:49,960 And I think Allison has a director of people has a fair amount of knowledge about ground water modeling. 921 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:58,060 So I want to know what specifically we're going to subset our knowledge in house with consultants. 922 01:25:58,060 --> 01:26:12,860 Also, Kennedy-Jakes under their Water Marketing and Groundwater Banking Program is going to be doing significant ground water modeling. I would imagine under their evaluations over the next couple of years. 923 01:26:13,480 --> 01:26:21,120 And I'm not quite sure are they going to work together or separately or just exactly what that's going to take place. 924 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:30,260 I also think that there's an extreme advantage to have a staff know of this work and if not do the work 925 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:38,040 It helps at all. I know Tony does a lot of work. I know add on can do engineering work, and I guess 926 01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:43,240 To draw the line between what our staff is going to be doing and 927 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,940 What we're going to have a consultant to do to put it in generalities that they're going to look at they're going to investigate 928 01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:58,120 I, for me, it's not specific enough to award the work on without detailed items because 929 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:02,280 a lot of the stuff that we're going to be doing is regurgitation of information and 930 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,720 updating the integrated legal water management plan. 931 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:12,420 I would hope that staff would be having the biggest footprint on that particular document 932 01:27:12,420 --> 01:27:17,060 rather than the consultant because we have such a highly qualified staff. 933 01:27:18,460 --> 01:27:26,460 Those were the main comments that I have, and I think we should change ourselves with 934 01:27:26,460 --> 01:27:32,340 the people that we have working at MWA, that they're very talented and very qualified. 935 01:27:33,140 --> 01:27:38,640 And when we go out to the community, it's nice to have on-staff expertise rather than 936 01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:44,380 bringing the consultant on it, it's kind of like talking to a lawyer, you know, you can 937 01:27:44,380 --> 01:27:48,840 get a legal opinion about anything. It's pretty much can get an engineering opinion and hydrological 938 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:55,540 opinion about anything, but it's great when we have staff is the ones doing it. So I think with 939 01:27:55,540 --> 01:28:02,320 items three and four, to me, they're a little bit nebulous. I don't have a problem with moving forward 940 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:08,620 or identifying funding for these things if they're needed, but I think as from my perspective, 941 01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:14,460 I would like to see some more specifics as this work gets accomplished and done 942 01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:17,740 and how it integrates with all the other things that we're doing with consultants 943 01:28:17,740 --> 01:28:23,140 with regards to ground water management and also the state water project, 944 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,240 water preparedness, whatever you want to call it. 945 01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:28,700 So those are my comments. 946 01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:30,080 Thanks. 947 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:30,960 Thank you, Mike. 948 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,180 General Manager Febo, I'd like you to address his comments, please. 949 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:36,400 Yes, absolutely. 950 01:28:36,400 --> 01:29:05,840 I will hand it over to Adnan to address the specifics on the groundwater modeling work that I will say that I share the philosophy that we want to keep as much of the expertise in house as possible that we are the experts on our basin right now we just happen to have a couple of vacancies that are requiring that we don't have that expertise in house one is the grant writing expertise. 951 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,560 We have a vacancy, it has not been filled at the time. 952 01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:18,860 And additionally, we have found in the past that when we've had people who are not particularly experts on writing those grants, we don't get the grants. 953 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:25,780 But when we have the experts actually help us write those grants, we are much more successful in receiving that grant funding. 954 01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:35,560 So I think for the grant writing until we actually have an expert, it makes a lot of sense and it's a good payoff to have that help come in from outside. 955 01:29:37,180 --> 01:29:51,320 Regarding the other on-call work, I can speak to the state water project side where Greg Young actually works very closely with other state water contractors throughout the state, even north of the Delta. 956 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:59,940 and so he can provide quite a bit of ex-understandings and understanding other aspects of ideas around him. 957 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,860 Water transfers, water purchases, water sales, and those types of things. And Adnan already mentioned that there's expertise as well from Tully who has had background in our own groundwater basin and adjudication. Again, Adnan is a shop of right now. One due to some leave and it will be a shop of just two or three. We have to make it be fair that we do see growing into having our own planning. 958 01:30:29,860 --> 01:30:36,300 expertise on site in our in-house, but at this time we just don't have the 959 01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:39,740 planning there. We are looking at filling that they can see it soon. 960 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,840 Just to 961 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:47,520 address that we agree we want to have that in-house as soon as possible and 962 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,780 this is to kind of fill in the gaps until we can do that. I'll hand it over to 963 01:30:51,780 --> 01:30:56,100 Adnan to address the specifics on what ground water modeling helps with the 964 01:30:56,100 --> 01:31:02,820 expected. Thank you, General Manager Febo. That was a really good summary of our thought process 965 01:31:02,820 --> 01:31:09,940 here. I will say that staff doesn't anticipate using Vengerro for groundwater modeling at this point. 966 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:19,060 What was listed under that on call is sort of spread over their current capabilities as a firm. 967 01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:25,100 as an example of things that they can provide support with. 968 01:31:25,820 --> 01:31:30,160 What staff is expecting to use them, at least on the on-call portion part, 969 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:35,240 is really to work that they have performed for the agency in the past 970 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:39,620 in their capacity during the urban water management plan. 971 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:46,120 And any related work that may kind of cross over into that realm. 972 01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:56,180 So again, not much is anticipated under the on call at this point and that's why we it's left as an on call it's for things that come up. 973 01:31:57,440 --> 01:32:13,500 But as Allison mentioned, their particular experience working with state water contractors, their experience with our area in preparation, the urban water management plan makes them kind of good pair of second eyes, even if we are doing the brunt of that work, which I agree. 974 01:32:13,500 --> 01:32:32,240 The staff wants to be the main proponents of these planning efforts and we do retain that knowledge, but having a second set of eyes to review materials or make sure that thing is going around in the state that may have implications on some of our planning work or paid attention to. 975 01:32:33,380 --> 01:32:35,080 That's where I can see the support. 976 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:40,240 and Jero for planning work under the on call. 977 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:42,640 Hopefully that addresses the question. 978 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:45,820 Director Limbaugh. 979 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,160 Hi, Mike. 980 01:32:46,900 --> 01:32:47,100 Yes. 981 01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:49,440 Yeah, that sounds good. 982 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,140 And I'm glad you guys feel that way 983 01:32:54,140 --> 01:32:57,500 because that's you are experts in your field 984 01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,780 and it's nice to hear your opinions 985 01:33:00,220 --> 01:33:04,460 and I do value the consultation from consultants as you do 986 01:33:04,460 --> 01:33:09,160 And from time to time, that is necessary to use outside sources. 987 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:15,560 And hopefully in the next few years, we'll get the staff to bolster our workload. 988 01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:19,650 That concludes your comments, Mike. 989 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:23,100 Yes, ma'am. 990 01:33:23,540 --> 01:33:26,620 Thank you very much for that. Go to Director Cox, please. 991 01:33:30,710 --> 01:33:37,270 Thank you, Madam President. I agree with so much of what Director Limbaugh said. 992 01:33:37,270 --> 01:33:44,230 we don't want to be a stable of managers that just manages consultants, consultants come and go 993 01:33:44,230 --> 01:33:51,650 and merge and retire. And with them we lose that expertise and institutional knowledge that 994 01:33:51,650 --> 01:33:58,430 we've paid them to gain. It is far more important for the longevity of the agency that we develop 995 01:33:58,430 --> 01:34:28,050 that knowledge and that skill of our basins from within I agree it's appropriate to use consultants judiciously but I think we really need to focus moving into the future of having that expertise within our core group at the end of the day though there will be greater value to the constituents and the residents of our area that we all serve. 996 01:34:29,870 --> 01:34:31,430 That's all I have. Thank you. 997 01:34:32,150 --> 01:34:34,470 Thank you. Director Ventura. 998 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,480 Well, there's not much left for me to say. 999 01:34:38,980 --> 01:34:42,080 Mike Lindbergh, you know, if you have an engineering self at NASA, 1000 01:34:42,220 --> 01:34:44,520 really specific with questions. 1001 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:49,600 And I'm quite satisfied with staff's response in the oversight. 1002 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:56,600 I agree with Director Cox in regards to someday a resource 1003 01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,980 so it will be at the level, but we can do more things and... 1004 01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:30,840 We're trying to do as much as possible at this point in time, but I think this is a good way to go. I think Andrea has been here before and done a great job. So I support it. Thank you. Thank you, Director Ventura, and just kind of to recap what I'm hearing from the other directors and from staff. Everybody has the same concern that we bring this expertise in-house, but staff is asking now they don't have the resources. 1005 01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:37,560 and the depth to do this, but we understand, you know, we're not trying to make cripples 1006 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:42,840 and make this be a crutch, but this is a step into toward our own independence with 1007 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:48,700 this knowledge. So, excellent discussion. I will go back to Director Page for a motion. 1008 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,560 Thank you, President Hayer. How many commotion? 1009 01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:58,510 I'll second that motion. 1010 01:35:59,430 --> 01:36:01,970 Thank you. I have a first and a second roll call, please. 1011 01:36:02,370 --> 01:36:03,250 Director Limbaugh. 1012 01:36:04,590 --> 01:36:06,630 Yes. Director Ventura. 1013 01:36:09,060 --> 01:36:10,300 Yes. Director Page. 1014 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:21,740 Director Cox. Hi. President Heherst. Yes. 1015 01:36:21,980 --> 01:36:25,740 Did we hear Director Page? I didn't hear his response. I thought his microphone go on 1016 01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:32,280 and off. Oh. I think it's kind of quick. Yeah. I thought I'd say yes. Yeah. I just wanted 1017 01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:37,600 to clarify. I couldn't hear from my physician. So the motion passes unanimously. Again, thank 1018 01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,700 Thank you to all for a very good discussion. 1019 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,940 We will move on to reports and any manager's reports. 1020 01:36:45,460 --> 01:36:45,740 I 1021 01:36:48,430 --> 01:36:50,610 have a couple of reports. 1022 01:36:51,850 --> 01:36:53,770 Actually, they're all good news today. 1023 01:36:54,010 --> 01:37:00,050 So, the first report is that the State Water Project allocation was recently increased 1024 01:37:00,050 --> 01:37:08,490 to 15 percent due to a nice wet winter fall period, so October through December has quite 1025 01:37:08,490 --> 01:37:14,370 bit of rain especially in the northern seara for the state water project and we're seeing 15 percent 1026 01:37:14,370 --> 01:37:18,230 the latest studies that we've seen from the Department of Water Resources is that there's 1027 01:37:18,230 --> 01:37:23,790 potential for an even higher allocation which is just great news especially given how dry 1028 01:37:23,790 --> 01:37:30,550 January has been we've had little to no rain in January but that's great news for us it also 1029 01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:35,570 means the watershed is probably pretty wet so that when we do see rain we'll see that run off. 1030 01:37:35,570 --> 01:37:43,210 Second, as some of you may remember, the Monterey litigation, after 27 years litigation 1031 01:37:43,210 --> 01:37:47,710 over the Monterey amendments, which were amendments to the State Water Project contracts 1032 01:37:47,710 --> 01:37:55,390 between the State Water Contractors and DWR, that litigation has concluded as a quick background. 1033 01:37:55,610 --> 01:38:05,550 The litigation was contesting DWR's implementation of the Monterey agreement, which included several 1034 01:38:05,550 --> 01:38:11,290 items including our ability to store water in families reservoirs can't carry over storage, 1035 01:38:11,390 --> 01:38:16,050 but the hot, the biggest hot button issue was the operation of the curtain water bank. 1036 01:38:16,850 --> 01:38:20,830 The challenge was against the environmental document and the thought was that 1037 01:38:20,830 --> 01:38:26,270 those the implementation of the amendment shouldn't have occurred until the environmental document was 1038 01:38:27,730 --> 01:38:34,650 reviewed and renewed and completed 27 years of going back and forth and finally the court 1039 01:38:34,650 --> 01:38:41,390 of appeals did a poll that DWR was in the right to implement that 1040 01:38:41,390 --> 01:38:47,430 monitoring amendment while the environmental document was being updated, and just recently 1041 01:38:47,430 --> 01:38:53,190 the California Supreme Court decided against hearing the case, so that is the final decision. 1042 01:38:53,530 --> 01:39:00,150 So 27 years and we're finally in the clear for our monitoring amendments, and then the final 1043 01:39:00,150 --> 01:39:07,210 item is that I wanted to have you all join me in congratulating Emmett Campbell, our staff member 1044 01:39:07,210 --> 01:39:15,230 and his wife Sabrina. They just welcomed their baby Morgan Lilly Campbell on January 21st 1045 01:39:15,230 --> 01:39:20,810 and were very excited for them and their family. So that is all of my report. 1046 01:39:22,030 --> 01:39:26,270 Thank you very much. We'll move on legal report, Mr. Brunick. 1047 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:34,840 On to Director's reports, just quickly Director Cox anything? 1048 01:39:35,380 --> 01:39:35,620 Thank 1049 01:39:38,660 --> 01:39:39,240 you. 1050 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:40,900 Director Limbaugh. 1051 01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:43,950 15% looking good. 1052 01:39:44,590 --> 01:39:45,510 Director Ventura. 1053 01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:55,480 The only report I have is I guess the sewer system and the other value of high desert completed. 1054 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,380 I was really motivated construction. 1055 01:39:58,380 --> 01:39:59,480 in the air, done. 1056 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:10,300 Right now, three commercial entities starting to break ground. So they were waiting in the wings for the sewer system to go in. So, hey, that's only a record. And director page. 1057 01:40:13,060 --> 01:40:18,860 Nothing at this time. Thank you. And I have nothing. Any board members with a future item. 1058 01:40:25,470 --> 01:40:28,810 I understand we will be going into closed session. Mr. Burnett, 1059 01:40:32,540 --> 01:40:40,520 no real property. All right. Thank you. Directors, you have call in instructions. 1060 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,560 and I will join you in closed session. 1061 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,440 Thank you, public. 1062 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,660 We'll return to enable audio controls. 1063 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,840 Please enter your audio pen, followed. 1064 01:40:50,860 --> 01:40:53,000 All right, we're live, gentlemen. 1065 01:40:53,460 --> 01:40:53,860 We're live. 1066 01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:56,840 Okay. 1067 01:40:57,180 --> 01:40:59,380 All right, we have returned from a closed session. 1068 01:40:59,500 --> 01:41:01,420 I'll go to the attorney for any reportable action. 1069 01:41:03,580 --> 01:41:04,460 For my son, Bill. 1070 01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:09,870 Board met in closed session on item 16, 1071 01:41:10,350 --> 01:41:13,110 Barsovia, Atlanta, and there's no reportable action. 1072 01:41:14,430 --> 01:41:18,170 All right. With that, I will adjourn. Thank you, everyone. Have a great day. 1073 01:41:19,790 --> 01:41:20,290 Thank you.