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And provide the invocation.

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Father and heaven, we come before thee, this beautiful day, give thee thanks for thy bountyous blessings for the sky and the rain and wind.

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Everything that makes this wonderful land be what it is. We are grateful for thy omnipresent.

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that helps us in everything that we do.

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We thank the Father for the rain that we receive in this thirsty basin.

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And if it be that will, we pray for more,

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that we may be able to manage the water resources

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to the best possible uses.

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Bless us, Father, as we go throughout our lives in our daily activities that we may be safe,

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that we will find pleasure in what we do.

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Bless this board as they discuss the needs on the agenda,

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that they will feel a vinespiration and be able to discern the best path to take.

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Bless all the residents in this great high desert that they will be safe and happy and healthy.

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Bless those who are serving this country at home and abroad, especially the police and the first responders that they as they take care of our lives will be able to return to theirs.

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These things we ask commonly in my sense name, Jesus Christ, amen.

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Thank you.

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I'll call to order the August 20th, 2026, regular meeting of the Board of Directors,

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Mahavi Water Agency at 932, and I'll ask Director Floan from Joshua Basin Water to

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lead us in the pledge

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of the United States of America, and the Republic for which it stands,

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formation under God, and in this world with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. Okay. Roll call, please.

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Director Page.

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I'm here. Director Vermeer is, Director Limbar, Director Cox, Director Hoffman, President

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Okay, and we have Director Raleigh's just participating remotely as an observer today,

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So he's online.

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We also have about 19 guests online and folks in the room, thank you.

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Can we have a, so are we going to vote by Granicus or no?

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On time we get that.

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Are we going to vote by Granicus or by Granicus?

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So we have the approval of the agenda.

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But that's so fast.

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And I have a motion by Director Lombon, a second by Director Page.

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Item four, public participation.

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The public comment period is limited to five minutes per person and not more than 15 minutes in total.

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Anyone wishing to address any matter pertaining to agency business listed on the agenda or not may do so at this time.

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However, the Board of Directors may not take action in the action on items that are not on the agenda.

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Please submit speaker card to the clerk or use the chat box in the go to meeting to notify the clerk that you wish to speak.

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Do we have any speakers at this time?

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We'll go to item five.

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Master plan workshop.

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Evaluation scenarios.

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General manager.

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And I'm telling you.

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Good morning.

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As we pull the slide deck up, this would normally be given by, well, presenting today is going to be myself and Wesley.

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Melody was going to give this presentation, but she is currently attending.

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A strategic planning session with VBWRA, they're undergoing something, I don't know if I'd say similar, but in

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the same vein as what we're doing under master planning, and so she's attending that

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stands for Apology, so you can't be here for this presentation.

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And the less, we also have Greg Young joining remote, so if there are particular questions,

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and Greg, I'll invite you as well if you'd like to just chime in during this slide.

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That works too.

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continues our monthly cadence of updates to the board.

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to sort of the anchoring questions,

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intending to have answered,

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and commitment by the board is what outcomes

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are we committing to over the next five years? Why are we committing those to accomplishing those

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things as opposed to other things we could be doing? How are we planning to accomplish them?

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How much do we expect they will cost? And how are we going to pay for them? We've brought this

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back over and over again, but those remain the sort of anchoring questions that we intend to have

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Next slide, thanks. This slide is also familiar to you by this point.

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This is the the process illustrated for you.

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We've done all of the front loaded work required to get us

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engagement cycle work, which included homework

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by the agency staff to identify and write down

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our institutional knowledge understanding, historical context.

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We've well into the engagement cycle one, which many of you have been a part of the level one or two one engagement we've done so far out in the eight planning areas.

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I'll get to that in a separate slide.

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And a lot of what we're going to be talking about today, in terms of next steps, includes the work being done as part of that work, which is evaluating scenarios.

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We still intend to deliver the master plan for consideration by the board in February of next year, which then, of course, kicks up and tees up the next set of decisions that board will make.

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So today's focus is going to be on progress, where we're at status.

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I think that's when West will sort of pipe in and take over the presentation.

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Okay, if you go next line.

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The project battery represents the progress of the project from a program management perspective close to halfway done, which tracks kind of where we're at in the process.

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But to talk about the status of the engagement so far, we've completed our level one engagement, which has been nine sessions and eight different planning areas with folks from different cities, land use entities, towns, retailers around a table.

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with staff and some of our board, depending on where we're at.

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That has been very well received. We've had a lot of good feedback in terms of how those went.

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The ability to share perspectives and gain some understanding.

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so it was nice to have kind of that cross discussion going.

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This level 2 is non-retail stipulators in small water suppliers, one-on-one discussions, which we

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sent scientists up as virtual meetings.

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just different structure in terms of doing virtual meetings.

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There's a lot we expect a lot, nine of these to happen in the coming weeks.

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Level 3 is really the broader information out engagement, which will be in a webinar format that will be providing on September 2nd from 530-7pm available to all who want to listen in.

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And this is the level three program that you're planning on.

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Presenting, December 2nd. Is that summary of what we've done to date, or is it idea of brainstorming?

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What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what the master planning processes about where we're at in the process? What we intend to answer?

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So, sort of the tee up the set that I'm not going to ratchet down, not yet.

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Certific area needs and things like that. Yeah, agency needs. Okay. We intend that to be cycle to and I don't know, Greg, if you want to chime in at all if there's a detail you want to provide.

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I'll just add to that.

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Can you guys hear me all right?

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First of all.

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Director Limbaugh.

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I think the intent of this is to make sure we're picking up everybody all the community members

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who just want to listen and we'll have an opportunity to have discussion at the end

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if they want to add their thoughts on wants and needs in that part.

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But we're going to present more about what the master plan is about and then open it up for

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discussion. Thank you.

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Okay. Next slide. So the planning framework is, you know, all starts with the strategic plan with the agency commits to doing at the top level.

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This rapid framework, which if you click one more time, I think we get a red line has been sort of changed over to a line.

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rapid may be familiar to you from something presented by the Zen Harrow team. I want to say almost

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close to two years ago now and I'll explain the differences between the framework, but this is

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right. How the strategic plan is going to deliver on what the board has directors to do consistent

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with the strategic plan as well as the policy to maximize value. Master planning, of course, will then

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If adopted by the board, that's the priority policies programs, projects, and helps tee up the budget prep and any policy decision making that we bring to the board for discussion and decision on.

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down. And so historically, what was introduced was the rapid framework, which included a research

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and analyze, prioritize and integrate and then decide. We've shifted that now. We've

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added kind of a listening and identification step, which is really community stakeholder engagement

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focused, which was kind of a new addition to this approach. But largely the rest of the other

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things, included still track. So with assessing, we're really trying to understand, and this

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is the work we've done to this point. What's true today? What's the picture of our supply

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and demand? What are conditions? What are the issues that that staff and the board has identified

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over the years? And then, listen, is really about getting out into the community and hearing perspectives,

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what's important for our communities? How do they translate, you know, water issues for them

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and things that they're concerned with.

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of what are the needs and wants, what's missing,

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how do we step into the future and share success?

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Grounding everything to a strategic plan in board policies

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that we can see what it is that we can do

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in order to move the needle in those fronts.

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that follow which the board is in command of.

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That new process we call a line, which I like a lot,

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because it really does mean and one of the kind of the changes

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of this master plan approach was about making sure alignment happens

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not just organisationaly, but community-wise.

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rapid kind of had a tone of fast, and this is not intended to be fast,

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this is intended to be intentional.

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And the listening parts really align, they track with the

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policy that you have adopted as the board.

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Thanks, Greg.

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I'm reminded of us saying I don't know who we can credit for, but move slow, I'm in a hurry.

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So sometimes you just gotta take the time.

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I'll just briefly tee this up.

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This is intended to be kind of a really high level summary of what we've heard so far

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level one cycle one engagement with our Tier 1 stakeholders, but this is not the full

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comprehensive set of themes yet. So we plan to do that in one month's time where we've

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The conversation we've had with in our entire cycle one engagement. So that's coming. But nonetheless, we did hear a lot of themes, and I thought, we thought it would be a good to share that with you all today. Go ahead, Wes. Thank you.

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Yeah, so just like I had an insight at a high level. Also, I'm pretending to be a melody today, so I'm doing it best.

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Can you hear me now?

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All right, trying to do my best melody impression today.

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sift what we heard kind of into two categories based on the value

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propositions that the agency feels like they're offering.

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So we heard things like imported water as insurance.

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You know, we want access or just being able to have access to that water

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is important to us because we don't want water scarcity to limit our growth.

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Early alignment on planning for growth and supply. I just said that kind of ties back to the

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insurance policy, but we want to be able to, sorry, go ahead and can you share your screen?

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I'm realizing that wasn't shared. That's a small window.

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Is that good? It didn't work.

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You'll see a green border.

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I can still see it. It was showing online.

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Thanks, Sharon.

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I'll go. Yeah.

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Yeah, it was just a small window.

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So hopefully that's better for folks online.

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That better.

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unprompted in some of our discussions, recycled water projects,

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VVWRA flows and cadets were all raised by different planning areas

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or stakeholders that we talked to.

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of fluctuating water levels, fluctuating water quality on water

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retail agencies and the importance of stability in those spaces.

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And the data and science are really highly requested across the service area, just that general helping water retailers understand the system that they're operating in.

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And we heard a lot that roles need to be distinguishable between the agency and water master.

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And so the evaluation themes, moving forward,

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are developing planning areas, specific risks in areas.

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They let us convert these kind of qualitative discussion

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level concerns into quantitative risks

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that we can address with them.

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on imported water policy and use tools

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to evaluate these risks to help define priority initiatives

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we're kind of looking at them from this framework of a lot of the variables that are creating

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the conditions that we operate in our outside of our control from the agency perspective.

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We don't know the state water project allocation. We don't know how fast growth will actually

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occur. The regulatory constraints that are imposed on us can change pretty quickly if you look at

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is something that we have to respond to and live with.

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And then there are choices based on those conditions

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that we do have control over, which

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is what we do with the water that's available to us each year,

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where and when we bank it, which projects we build,

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and what we fund it in what order.

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And those decisions support the ongoing master planning and priorities.

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So just this is the image, I think we've all seen quite a bit, but it's just that continued

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decline in reliability from the state water project that we've seen in recent years.

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And this year's allocation of, you know, 45% was still below that 53% average that DWR published

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in their most recent delivery capability report.

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Have a question, Wes?

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Yeah.

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The delivery capacity.

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What is, is that DWR's curve, the dark black line?

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That's delivery capability.

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And yeah, that's the DCR, the delivery capability

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report that's published every two years from DWR.

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The allocator of the 100% they could only give us 50?

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No, that's their model, the average looking based on different hydrologies that they run through their system.

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They're expected planning level average for people to project forward with.

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So, you can see through time they're telling people that, you know, in 2002, you're going to get maybe 75% as a planning number,

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looking forward for the state water project and now they're telling you it's closer to 53%.

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And then this is our local hydrology at the bar slow gauge. So as you can see we haven't

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had back to back wet years, which was more than 200 acre feet of flow at that gauge since 1980,

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so that's 46 years ago. And this is just something that we continue to monitor locally as we we think

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about uses, increasing in our service area

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and the impacts that could have on groundwater levels

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if our local hydrology continues this trend.

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And so this feeds into the scenarios and the choices

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that we make because how we plan around these types

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of conditions changes our behavior.

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And it has direct impact on things like water quality,

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stability, water level stability for the region.

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and those have been mentioned as important to our stakeholders.

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So the evaluation tools, some of these we already have developed,

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some of them are in draft or refinement phases,

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and some of them are work that we still have ahead of us.

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But we have some MWA developed in house groundwater models.

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We also have regional groundwater models that were developed by USGS in the past.

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We have a decision support tool that's being refined

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As the master plan evolves, our important water surplus and deficit model is in draft form but that's looking at the probabilities and uncertainties around supply and demand growth and looking at what surplus and deficits look like over time.

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We're also starting the project of new more robust financial models.

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We have water balance accounting, and then our CRM-S asset management project for our infrastructure.

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Then in the next few months, staff will conduct scenario analysis using many of these tools to help further define master plan priority or recommendations.

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This is just our, where we're at in our schedule.

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The master plan project management team committed to monthly updates to the board, so we're in August.

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and this is the update for our evaluation scenarios.

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And then moving in the September

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will be the cycle one engagement debrief

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or you'll get a lot more details

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about the things that we heard

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from the different stakeholders in our region.

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And with that, are there any questions

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any guidance for the team as we move forward?

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Thank you.

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To my left, Director Ramirez.

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Director Page.

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Director Cox.

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Are you several?

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Okay.

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page three.

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There's slide three.

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And then for this, I guess my question is,

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we've got the July august engagement cycles,

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and then in December of this year is when the recommendations

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are going to be coming forward to the board from staff.

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It seems like a real crunch of time in between that time period, especially considering

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we haven't even introduced a financial analysis that Sanjay is doing, but like we need

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to extend that time frame.

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Next question.

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We don't want that in stone, and we gotta get something done that might be subpar

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and not including all the financial analysis.

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So at this point in time, what your thoughts about that time brand?

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Good question.

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The team is talking about this now.

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We committed to a February, actually, to have a board adoption.

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I don't, the board, we want to bring it all to the board for discussion as we go through

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this process.

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But really, January is when we're talking about a lot of the meat, but that's fair.

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That's very, it's very compressed.

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other.

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The reason for the February timing was the intent was to use and leverage any board adopted master plan in the budget prep.

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That being said, if we are finding that there will be value in not brushing, because, right, the end of the day, we want to do this right.

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So we'll need to just talk about what it will take if more discussion is needed. So that's still flexible, but we drive towards a target, and we'll see.

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Now, in December, what will be happening?

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Greg, Greg, why don't you chime in and then I'll clean up.

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After you're finished, Adnan.

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After you're okay, that's fine.

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So, cycle one is about listening,

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orienting, understanding perspectives,

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staff then does the work of exploring, right?

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It's really about developing common language, right?

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Something like managing,

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important water supplies by engaging in multi-year transfers means very little to a planning

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area with land use plans. But when frame that way, but when we talk about system reliability

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and water delivery reliability, as well as cost implications and affordability, that's

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when it matters. And so, drawing that nexus and connecting the threads is what the intent

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of cycle one is to hear what drives and then to orient language around describing activities

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you do and how they advance those things.

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Cycle two is about sharing that and getting sort of a shared understanding of the sets

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of activities that would move that us in a direction that matters to them.

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And then the board adoption around those things would be about recognizing that set of information

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to inform next level decision making.

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So, I don't think that even with adoption of a master plan, it commits the board in any way

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to any financial policy decision making or commitments to any projects really.

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It's about recognizing and committing to using the information available in the master plan

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as a good set of information to use to inform that decision making.

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So, this decision making still follows this process.

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I guess I misunderstood what Sanjay's role is because I thought that was going to be integrated into the master planning.

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Not directly, it's going to leverage. So if one of the things we recognize, oh, go ahead Greg and then I'll I'll chime in a little bit.

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I think this is a really good illustration, Director Cox, of if let's presume for a moment

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in a perfect world, the master plan came out and one of the recommended priorities that

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you adopt as a board is to prepare a strategic financial plan and then that starts and it

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has some time frame and has some budget commitments and the staff lead, etc. The reality is that's

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have some crossover and integration, but it is something that has its kind of its own timeline

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that would be a recommendation and will be recognized as a recommendation of the master plan,

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but it will have already started. So if that kind of nexus is helpful to understand how we're

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seen these pieces.

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Yeah, and another way of saying that is we've already heard from the board an

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interest in reviewing things like the reserve policy to support how we're moving into the future.

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So there's already recognition of the need, and so as Greg was saying,

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we expect fully that part of the master plan would recognize the utility of a development

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of a financial strategic plan.

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I mean, said that we can do these in parallel.

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And financial strategic plan will involve a lot of board workshop, workshoping around policy

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objective setting, and may kick off, you know, may be part of that, maybe policy setting.

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But yeah, they're obviously related here, but financial strategic planning isn't driving in the master planning, and yeah.

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Okay, and for me, because words matter, I know we've seen this chart several times, but I think it may fit better to have staff observations rather than recommendations.

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because those recommendations are then going out to externally from the agency to the stakeholder base rather than coming to the board for input.

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So maybe observations might be better, word there for the sake of semantics, then up to the battery slide.

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Oh, on that one there's

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A slice that is on hold, what is on hold that you has been determined isn't essential, maybe, to this process? Can you?

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Yeah, we described as as nice to have, so something like if we wanted to update an important water modeling spreadsheet. Nice to have, but if it was driving the schedule of this thing well beyond where we would like to have it.

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We staff made a determination kind of with all the sub team leads.

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This is nice to have. Let's put this in the parking lot for next phase.

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It's one of those things where we can spend an infinite amount of time developing stuff to unersan and allies.

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And that was the kind of the threshold drawn.

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This would be nice to have. We can explore whether it's utility, but we've got enough information or enough analysis available.

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we don't need it now. And that speaks to the nimbleness of the process then. Okay, perfect.

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And next page on engagement cycle one.

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On the level three, I'm hoping the board will get

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invitation because I know these aren't posted on the website, but if I could just request that

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the board have the opportunity to also listen in, not participate, but just to listen.

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I put it on my calendar a bit. Yeah, and there should be, I know Charlene and her staff

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have been busy with a ribbon cutting that was earlier this week and she is engaging with

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folks on our team to get the materials to get this posted and it should be showing up on the website

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and pushed out in a variety of ways within this, over the next week.

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And then under development, same slide, I'm sorry.

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What is the timing on the level two, virtual subtemperer?

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I ask you to go ahead and you want me to speak to that, yes, yes.

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So we are getting those scheduled, we just, as of yesterday, set a, the small, we had put

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We were putting out a lot of due-to-pools, making phone calls, email exchanges, trying to get people around some dates, right now it looks like we're doing a morning of the 31st of August for a virtual level 2 for small water purveyors.

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We were trying to do a couple that was maybe Lucerne Apple Valley and then another one that was more

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Baja and Central Area. But we're going to combine all that into one because we just it's hard. Those folks

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have a whole time finding availability and being able to reach them and a lot of those smalls we've been

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doing. Andrew has been making phone calls directly to people. We've been hitting people with a variety of

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efforts. So we're setting that meeting as of yesterday to the 31st in the morning. We have a more

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making some phone calls, and we are arranging for several other individuals like with CDFW,

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with a couple of larger, identified large, large stipulators that we have wanted to chat

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with that weren't already retailers under level 1.

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And so those calls have been made, and we're getting some responses on availability, and

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we're setting those as individual one-on-ones with some of those parties.

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So, we're getting those scheduled, they're not all scheduled.

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I think VVWRA meeting also gets scheduled yesterday, and that is, I'm going to have to remind myself.

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I think it's the first, let's see the 31st or that first few days of September.

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So it's not nine of the same meetings, it's about nine meetings like one, being like a specific

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stipulated. Smalls. Okay. Call with a call with C Max. We're not going to try and have everybody else on the same call. We want to call and chat with C Max to see if they have anything that they want to say, hey, I worry about this or I care about that. Okay. Sure. Yeah, I just wanted to talk about level three a little bit. That is going to be hosted on Zoom. So it would be open to anybody who wants to participate in that. We are in the process of creating a survey monkey.

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form to register only for the purpose of getting those links out to people.

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That will be listed on our website.

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We'll be putting out a press release.

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And so we're right in the middle of doing all of that right now.

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The date is set for September 2nd.

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I believe and it's going to be in the evening.

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Hoping to catch people after work,

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maybe it's going to be more available.

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Because we do want as many participants as possible.

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And it to be open to anybody to sit in on that would like to hear.

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Any other questions on this slide for doing on this particular engagement?

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Before Director Cox go ahead. State water allocation slide,

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that one. So looking at the tenure-trailing average,

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that's all kind of, look to Director Limbaue 2, that dash line does not seem that a statistical output of annual allocation and the delivery capability.

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I mean it's got that huge dip and it seems anomalous to me. Is this an output from DWR and this is what they're telling us?

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No, that's a running average of allocations looking ten years back.

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Say that again, your voice is really soft.

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Sorry, it is a running average of the previous 10 years.

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So when you have those two five percent allocation years, that is taking up 20 percent

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of the data used to create that point.

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So it's drawing it down heavily.

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Yeah, staff was interested in exploring and seeing how the trailing like last 10 years

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has tracked against the delivery capability report published by the state.

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Right, the state says, here's what we expect long-term average to be, and we wanted

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we'll have actual allocations tracked against it, and so you can see here, you know,

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there was a period of time where the delivery capability report showed lower yield,

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then we're actually getting out of the project and of course.

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But the key factor with state water allocations is year to year.

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You don't care on average other than statistical measurement,

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but the state evaluates what they release to us as state water contractors on a year to year basis.

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It's not based on 10 years prior that's in the right future.

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So what's important to us is what on average is a state telling us they're going to give us

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and what on average can their facilities deliver to us, which will be in question in the future

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more often, as you well know, they keep coming up with circumstances beyond our control.

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Yeah, I give that no.

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Sorry, go ahead, Greg.

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Maybe, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on either stretch of cocks.

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Maybe just add that this is really illustrative to say we are in a much more vulnerable and

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variable position going forward.

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So we should be considering that those high load into the future of how we manage, how

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you bring water in and that's an expectation and this is why this slide was shared with

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level 1 conversations and will be part of the level 2 and level 3 is to let people recognize

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we have waters fly available, but it varies and we need to work around that variable.

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That's really helpful. That contextualizes this slide for me and I'm wondering if I found it

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not clear how are the stakeholders viewing it. So this view back is good because

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Well, we'll iterate, I mean, this is some of this, you know, we've done things like variance, for example, like what does variance mean it's a statistical calculation, but that might be an indication of how volatile it is, how year to year annual variability affects things, which is different than the range of

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allocations and that means something for how we manage it, right? It means do we manage by building infrastructure to manage it and storage or is it through exchange relationships?

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It's great in great feedback. We'll have to continue to improve how we communicate and how to to make what point.

446
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:57,550
I mean it makes great sense now with the explanation but I didn't didn't quite grasp it before.

447
00:38:57,550 --> 00:39:00,230
If we could go to the next slide,

448
00:39:00,950 --> 00:39:02,970
sorry, Greg, did you have something to say?

449
00:39:03,870 --> 00:39:05,470
I was just going to add that maybe,

450
00:39:05,610 --> 00:39:07,990
especially for the Level 3 webinar,

451
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:10,070
we do this in parts where we just show

452
00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:12,630
DWR's representation of the long-term average.

453
00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:16,870
And then our actual allocations layered on,

454
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:18,890
and then what our average is looking like

455
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:20,070
and how it's dropped below.

456
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:23,370
I think that's just that sequence helps explain it

457
00:39:23,370 --> 00:39:26,530
instead of just looking at one set of lines

458
00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:27,990
and graph and bars.

459
00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:29,170
And we'll do that.

460
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:29,710
Excellent.

461
00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:31,170
Thank you for that, Greg.

462
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:37,030
So on the bar still gauge, since Centro is, you know,

463
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:39,210
for a couple of years now,

464
00:39:39,370 --> 00:39:42,350
been a focus of conversations,

465
00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:46,510
should we consider moving that gauge

466
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:50,030
to a more appropriate major in place?

467
00:39:50,370 --> 00:39:51,970
Because the river has shifted

468
00:39:51,970 --> 00:39:54,830
and no longer flows towards the rock

469
00:39:54,830 --> 00:39:57,050
where the gauge is.

470
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,140
Any thoughts on that?

471
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,740
Oh, I wish I had something intelligible to say about that, but I've got a team I can rely on, I don't

472
00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:12,160
know, I'm looking at you, Tony, or West, if you guys have ideas, or, you know, have

473
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:19,260
a, I would recommend not because it's got over 100, well, almost 100 year record.

474
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,880
We did recently add the Daggette gauge, which is near the boundary of center on Baha as

475
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:31,640
as the hoggage, which is the effective boundary between the TZ and central.

476
00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:35,880
It does actually

477
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,660
have value when we do have those large flow events. The smaller events, yes, it's very problematic.

478
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,680
But for the larger flow events, it does actually capture those when it does kind of the bank

479
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,360
Thanks, low, and that would give my recommendation, what?

480
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,720
Yes, I

481
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,020
mean, I love more data.

482
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:07,420
If staff feels there is a practical place to add another gauge like we did a couple of years ago.

483
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,500
I'd love to see that proposal come to the board.

484
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:26,100
And then I think my last comment is on the next page, evaluation tools is all of staff being trained and how to use these tools.

485
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:35,440
There's a gatekeeper process or how do you envision this being deployed moving into the future?

486
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:42,120
I think this represents the portfolio of tools the agency has developed or is in need of developing and includes,

487
00:41:42,740 --> 00:41:51,740
do I need to have, does a lot of resources, scientists need to understand how the CMS program works probably not,

488
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:59,960
unless maybe it relates to, let's say, the wells, you know, our monitoring well network, but yeah,

489
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:04,160
or financial models needing to be understood by the operations crew probably not.

490
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,540
So I expect that the competencies around the use of these tools will sit in the various

491
00:42:09,540 --> 00:42:14,980
departments that it makes the most sense. But this process is about bringing all that together.

492
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,800
And it also may identify opportunities to have things talk to each other.

493
00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:26,700
For example, it may be important that we understand the implication of depreciation of an asset

494
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:32,720
against the CMS or, you know, an asset management program, or water balance accounting and

495
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,940
import of water supply, you know, these things we may want to communicate. So some of

496
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:39,820
this, some of the work we're doing under mass planning will identify the useful connections,

497
00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:45,100
but to make a long story short, to make a long story long out of what you asked,

498
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,500
much of the understanding of these tools will still be remained, you know, with a relevant

499
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:55,560
staff. Okay, because it's really important we don't have one person the wizard behind the curtain

500
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,680
that is the only one that knows how to work the controls and then that person

501
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,520
retires and we've lost a whole whole process.

502
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:06,960
So yeah.

503
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,920
And these monthly meetings are incredibly helpful to for me.

504
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,520
I don't want to speak for the rest of the director.

505
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,920
So I really appreciate staff taking the time and bringing this in.

506
00:43:22,990 --> 00:43:23,250
Welcome.

507
00:43:23,890 --> 00:43:27,530
On that same slide, I guess while we're on there and then I'll go to the right.

508
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:33,010
So MWA developed models, we hear a lot about the model in the timeline.

509
00:43:33,370 --> 00:43:37,890
So there is something there, I mean we have the upper base model and then we have tools

510
00:43:37,890 --> 00:43:38,790
that we're developing.

511
00:43:39,130 --> 00:43:47,770
So if we could just maybe just summarize quickly the ability we have now to use this newer

512
00:43:47,770 --> 00:43:48,350
model.

513
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:50,570
What I call the newer model, not the USGS.

514
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:52,870
We have pieces.

515
00:43:53,590 --> 00:43:53,810
Yeah.

516
00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:56,510
I wish Koppos in the room because he could give you.

517
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:03,530
And it's not to put you on the spot about deadlines more.

518
00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:06,450
Everybody here, so we have to wait for the model.

519
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:07,490
We have to wait for the model.

520
00:44:07,690 --> 00:44:11,630
But I just wanted to record that there's tools available to do some analysis.

521
00:44:12,490 --> 00:44:17,290
There is, I think, a few years back, we paid for the USGS.

522
00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:23,450
So there's a model for discernment, there's a model for the upper basin.

523
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:25,390
So there's tools, yes.

524
00:44:25,390 --> 00:44:26,370
Thank you.

525
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:29,370
Also, depending on where we're going to be working and when I've been

526
00:44:29,370 --> 00:44:30,470
out as we have tools.

527
00:44:31,050 --> 00:44:31,130
All right.

528
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:31,990
Thank you very much.

529
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:32,410
The problem.

530
00:44:32,730 --> 00:44:34,330
I'll just mention we have ideas.

531
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:37,470
You know, I've had an idea of what I was an engineering to have a surface

532
00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:39,930
water model that then integrated within a groundwater model, right?

533
00:44:39,930 --> 00:44:43,290
Because we know we want to understand how my hobby river flows when it's whether

534
00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:46,830
it's artificial or natural flows, how it interacts with the basin.

535
00:44:47,050 --> 00:44:51,250
There's a lot of appetite and interest in understanding and analysis tools and

536
00:44:51,250 --> 00:44:53,210
it's a matter of what we want to push on when.

537
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:59,890
there's there's more want than there is resources and it all done but but we do have quite a bit of capability

538
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:09,420
I think that concluded, yeah, concluded Director Cox's comments. I'm Director Limbaugh, you have any additional questions or comments?

539
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Yeah, I would agree with Director Cox, it was I attended three, three of the meetings and they were all very informative.

540
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:31,780
I guess my question to you, Ed Dennis, when we talk about the master plan, big holders involvement in the master plan is fundamental.

541
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:39,800
I think we've all agreed to that over the past ever since integrated regional water management planning started in our agency.

542
00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:46,480
So when I look at the evaluation tools, and I see at the bottom there, define master plan

543
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,800
priority recommendations.

544
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:56,200
Those are agency priorities, period, correct?

545
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:04,020
And because there's a wealth of those that were not directly related to the meetings that we had

546
00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:09,120
with stakeholders, not directly related to meetings we had with stakeholders, then there's

547
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:16,260
whole set of other priorities that could develop out of stakeholder involvement interaction.

548
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,460
So when we talk about what we're going to look at in the master plan, it's not only

549
00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:29,660
a project in Yucca Valley or a recharged basin in the Victor Valley area, it's also what are

550
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:33,060
we going to do about supplemental water deliveries in 20 years.

551
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:42,980
It's also what are we going to do about understanding the transition zone and how VVWRA impacts it today rather than relying on data in the past.

552
00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:52,300
So I mean, it's a whole big picture of the agencies overall activities given the resources that we have now and in the future.

553
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:58,740
Okay, that's all I wanted to make sure that this wasn't just a report on what the stakeholders all told us.

554
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,760
Now let's go sift through them and figure out what we can do.

555
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:30,460
Yeah, and I'll I'll raise you to by saying that it's not just about identifying the priorities, but it's also identifying the sequence of priorities. I just mentioned I would have loved to get involved in XYZ, right, but is that the most is that the best use of my time now, or does that make more is that more relevant in five years when XYZ even though it's all know some of those main priorities in the top five they're all they're always going to be there they're never going to go away. Right. So that's all comments.

556
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:34,640
It's a staff, it's a staff that did play book, right?

557
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:35,000
That's right.

558
00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:39,560
So a job at all those, including the Zenzeha people,

559
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:41,000
I thought the meetings were...

560
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,100
Then here else.

561
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:42,960
Zenheiro, yeah.

562
00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:43,740
Sorry.

563
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:44,520
Rebrand.

564
00:47:44,580 --> 00:47:45,860
He's a kicker for the dolphins.

565
00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:46,700
I know.

566
00:47:47,020 --> 00:47:47,980
Again, I'm confused.

567
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,720
It's a kicker, right?

568
00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:53,460
But yeah, it was...

569
00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,440
Birds, as how they went, I thought it was nice to walk into the

570
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,400
and have them really support our efforts here.

571
00:48:05,020 --> 00:48:07,540
So, and a staff so involved.

572
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:10,920
Thank you, Director Hoffman.

573
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,380
No, thank you.

574
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,640
I guess my, I want to thank staff for all the hard work

575
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:18,620
and the presentations.

576
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,160
I know there's a lot of work to schedule all that

577
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,380
and get everyone together.

578
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,020
So I think that went really well.

579
00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:27,400
I attended several.

580
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:35,660
Back to engagement cycle status, I just wanted to say that I'm interested in the August 31st

581
00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:41,480
listening session or virtual meeting to see what's happening in Lucerne with our small systems.

582
00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:48,520
Near and near to my heart, and then I think it'd be important for all of us.

583
00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:52,760
I think just to know that these meetings are happening as far as the board,

584
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,100
So that if there's a particular area that they're interested in hearing about that, they could at least attend and listen.

585
00:48:58,420 --> 00:49:01,760
Probably have a less of an issue just sitting online, right?

586
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,640
With more than three factors and assuming.

587
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,260
But again, keeping in mind, we want to try to maintain no corums.

588
00:49:09,660 --> 00:49:12,760
Yeah, I mean, I would defer to Steve Kennedy's council on that.

589
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,740
But I would say in the same format we ran the last ones where we have.

590
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,860
We keep it to, you know, three or less.

591
00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:27,600
We'll make sure that the relevant district representative is formed of that conversation so that you can, you know, if you want to be part of it.

592
00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:30,000
Yeah, just so we're cognizant of that and all this stuff's running.

593
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:40,340
It's coming up fast next month is what I was sort of hearing that you want to get through all these and so I'd be interested in anything happening in division two, I guess, as far as that goes.

594
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,700
Any last questions comments from the board?

595
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:46,060
Any public comment?

596
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:53,940
there was none at this time. Okay. All right. I guess that concludes our workshop for

597
00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:58,600
day. Thank you. We can go ahead and move to consent calendar items.

598
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:21,100
We have adopt board actions from regular minute meeting, August 6, 2026, and consider authorizing design review, approval, an execution of a turnout agreement, by the California Department of Water Research for the OS, they based in groundwater recharge project. And with that, we'd entertain a motion.

599
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:22,360
have

600
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,900
a first-by-director page and second-by-director Cox.

601
00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:35,090
All right, moving right along, item, what

602
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:39,720
did it?

603
00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:44,280
There we go.

604
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:49,160
All right, concluding item, consent calendar item 6 and 7,

605
00:50:49,860 --> 00:50:53,280
new business, eight, consider awarding a contract for

606
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,120
drilling and construction of the headwaters monitoring law.

607
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,960
General Manager, and I'm telling you.

608
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,300
Thank you.

609
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:08,680
This item was reviewed with the PREO committee last week, I want to say, and Jerry

610
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,720
will walk you through, but there was a request by the committee to understand some of

611
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:18,800
the variants, why we saw the spread in the bid, so Jerry's prepared an additional slide

612
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:24,920
for this discussion so that you're aware of the biggest item that created that spread.

613
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:28,120
Without Jerry, if you want to take it away, thank you.

614
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,280
Thank you, Adnan, and good morning.

615
00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:34,240
So yes, today we'll be talking about

616
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,360
consider awarding a contract for drilling

617
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,060
construction of the headwaters monitoring

618
00:51:38,060 --> 00:51:38,880
well.

619
00:51:39,580 --> 00:51:41,600
We'll go over the background, technical

620
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:44,580
specifications, the bidding process,

621
00:51:44,860 --> 00:51:46,580
the bid results, and the recommendation.

622
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,700
The little background, like Adents and we did

623
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,180
go to pre-alast week to authorize,

624
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,640
to discuss authorizing the bid,

625
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,100
go to the drillers.

626
00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:04,500
And then here we have a picture of, like Eric,

627
00:52:05,260 --> 00:52:07,480
excuse me, like Arrowhead monitoring well,

628
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,820
that it's a, we're placing this one with,

629
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,040
or I'm sorry that we're replacing that one with.

630
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:18,100
It will be located in the same area

631
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:22,560
on Arrowhead Lake Road on Randall and Stonehenge Avenue

632
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,780
in his spare yard.

633
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:29,880
And then it will provide MWA with the means to obtain

634
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,680
aquiferic specific water levels, water quality data.

635
00:52:33,820 --> 00:52:36,820
And it does fill those important gaps in data collection

636
00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:38,420
and the conceptual models.

637
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:47,040
And then we do have 386,000, 343 dollars in grant funds for this.

638
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,640
Technical specifications, it will be drilled using direct mud rotary.

639
00:52:51,640 --> 00:53:01,060
It's estimated to be drilled about 750 feet or until we hit bedrock, which ever comes first, and then it will be a three-casing nested well.

640
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,200
The bidding process is posted on May 28th, and Advertised on Bidnet.

641
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:17,880
We had a site visit on June 11th. The bid was closed on July 20th, and then as soon as they closed on July 20th, the bid's were opened.

642
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:25,160
The bid results were as follows, Southwest Pump and Drilling was $808,000.

643
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:29,600
Waterwell service ink was $177,000.

644
00:53:31,060 --> 00:53:33,820
Greg Drilling was $511,000.

645
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,980
Jane H. Drilling company was $455,000.

646
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,240
Yellowjacket Drilling Services is $419,000.

647
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:49,320
and then ABC Leovon drilling ink was $333,133,110 dollars.

648
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:55,250
In response to the questions raised at Prio, we'd

649
00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:56,910
regarding the difference between the bids.

650
00:53:57,130 --> 00:53:59,650
We did compare the individual bid items.

651
00:54:01,590 --> 00:54:05,930
Mobilization and demobilization showed the largest dollar variation.

652
00:54:06,250 --> 00:54:12,410
It ranged from $50,000 for ABC Leovon to $300,000 for $1,000 southwest.

653
00:54:12,410 --> 00:54:16,710
about a $8,250,000 difference.

654
00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:20,490
This demonstrates the significant variation

655
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:24,370
in how the contractor's priced individual components of the work.

656
00:54:25,170 --> 00:54:27,350
And then we also reviewed ADC liovins complete

657
00:54:27,350 --> 00:54:29,290
at scheduled to make sure that the lower price

658
00:54:29,290 --> 00:54:31,650
wasn't the result of any omitted bit items.

659
00:54:32,550 --> 00:54:34,350
And then all required bit items

660
00:54:34,350 --> 00:54:36,050
were included in price than that.

661
00:54:38,830 --> 00:54:40,610
And then staff recommends the Board of Directors'

662
00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:43,570
authorised staff to enter into a contract with ADC

663
00:54:43,570 --> 00:54:49,050
of in drilling ink for drilling construction services of headwaters monitoring well for a total

664
00:54:49,050 --> 00:54:56,730
not to exceed the cost of $333,110 dollars. Thank you and I'll take you in questions.

665
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,360
Dr. Cox? Dr. Cox?

666
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:12,560
Just on not so much question, but just I have had professional experience with ABC, Lyovan, both on a

667
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:20,000
potable well and numerous monitoring wells, and they do excellent work, so I'm really thrilled that

668
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,900
they are the low bidder on this. Seems like we had a really good value. What was the

669
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:28,760
engineer's estimate for this?

670
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,740
I believe it's, I don't have it in front of me,

671
00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:35,480
I believe it's 400, 400, and so that's excellent,

672
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,760
but we even came and under engineers' estimate,

673
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,800
and it just seems like a great bid, my opinion.

674
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,800
Yeah, and I'd like to add to that that we did work with them

675
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,080
with the Hell of Delphalt honoring well last year,

676
00:55:48,580 --> 00:55:50,200
and they were great.

677
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Back to your limba.

678
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,400
Yeah, we talked about this at Priole,

679
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,660
But thank you for showing us the big difference, that kind of eye-opening.

680
00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:07,600
At least it wasn't a technical issue about the bid that was at a whack, so, you know, that's preference for mobilization.

681
00:56:08,940 --> 00:56:12,060
One question I do have that was raised when I saw this.

682
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:19,300
Two meetings ago, we approved you to go out for bid for the West Victorville Wells.

683
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,320
And they're budgeted at 900,000 plus per well.

684
00:56:24,980 --> 00:56:31,680
Why is this well 300,000 and those wells budgeted at 900,000 each?

685
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:33,620
Do you mind if I take this?

686
00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:34,200
Okay.

687
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:37,820
There's several factors that I want as well depth.

688
00:56:38,540 --> 00:56:43,060
Number well depth quoted in the one in West Victorville's 850.

689
00:56:43,340 --> 00:56:45,380
It's just 50 to 850 feet.

690
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:47,340
This one's 750 feet.

691
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,040
So it's not too different.

692
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:56,920
Yeah, and there's borehole diameter the number of completions of the borehole diameter 14 and a quarter is that the

693
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,800
West Victor, what's this one?

694
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:07,040
The the West Victor will bill one. I think is the 18 and a half inch borehole little bigger

695
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:14,020
Yeah, and it includes more analytical tests with zone testing and water quality sampling and things that support

696
00:57:14,020 --> 00:57:16,760
Production well drilling that are not included

697
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,100
That was at 100,000 wall be very cheerful here.

698
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,660
Yeah, that's a big great.

699
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,980
Yeah, but just like, yeah, it's, it's just a mindset

700
00:57:26,980 --> 00:57:29,500
when the pictures look the same and it does that.

701
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,400
There are a little ambiance differences.

702
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,940
Yeah, I mean, the zone testing on the West Victorville,

703
00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:39,820
Wells is about $300,000 worth of data collection.

704
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,060
So it's a big jump.

705
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:44,660
There's just a big chunk of money.

706
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:46,060
There's my little question.

707
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Thank you.

708
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,360
But I will make a motion in the end.

709
00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:50,780
Thanks for being there.

710
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:51,860
You can go in there.

711
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:54,160
I have the same question about the contractors.

712
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,220
So thank you for asking that.

713
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,040
And would that in any other questions in any public comment?

714
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,080
No, no, no, this time.

715
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,140
All right.

716
00:58:03,380 --> 00:58:05,600
We had a motion in a second.

717
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,880
Director Hoffman and Director Limbaugh.

718
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:31,130
All right.

719
00:58:32,170 --> 00:58:33,510
Onto item nine.

720
00:58:33,970 --> 00:58:34,990
Managers reports.

721
00:58:37,850 --> 00:58:47,390
I just wanted to briefly mention how it was nice, it was nice to be out there and the ribbon cutting to see infrastructure get completed and water flowing.

722
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:52,670
It was pretty amazing to see you cut the ribbon and I think it was Fred who was operating the facility.

723
00:58:53,050 --> 00:58:59,830
Turn it on right as you cut it and so water started to flow immediately. It was like a well sequenced event. It was it was great to see.

724
00:58:59,830 --> 00:59:02,230
But just want to thank staff.

725
00:59:03,130 --> 00:59:05,970
There was a lot of work involved in delivering that project

726
00:59:05,970 --> 00:59:08,270
within the budget time frame.

727
00:59:08,410 --> 00:59:09,770
I'm sorry, the grant timing,

728
00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:12,650
because we were working with both a state

729
00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:14,710
and a federal component of the grant.

730
00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:17,310
So just big kudos to you guys,

731
00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:20,290
and appreciate the board showing in great force

732
00:59:20,290 --> 00:59:22,490
to support the project.

733
00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:23,690
A lot of us great.

734
00:59:24,070 --> 00:59:25,470
That concludes my report.

735
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:32,710
OK, legal report item 10, you know, counts of Kennedy.

736
00:59:34,270 --> 00:59:35,810
Thank you, Madam President, members of the board.

737
00:59:36,190 --> 00:59:38,130
I do not have anything to report at this time,

738
00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:41,270
though we do have a number of matters to discuss in close action.

739
00:59:42,130 --> 00:59:42,950
I thank you.

740
00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:45,050
Director reports on my left, Director Ramirez.

741
00:59:46,770 --> 00:59:47,390
Just a comment.

742
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:49,070
It's a, I don't say it.

743
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:51,410
It's great to see everybody's hard work.

744
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:52,450
Take for tissue.

745
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:54,190
Project.

746
00:59:54,890 --> 00:59:56,490
Very happy with it.

747
00:59:59,630 --> 00:59:59,930
guide.

748
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,100
Just like comment about some of the events here of the last week or so, we had the water conference on Friday,

749
01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:19,680
with special districts on Monday. And we had, yes, there was a Tuesday, yeah, I'm getting my dates.

750
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:29,280
We had the ground ribbon, just thank you to staff on those events and all that they do.

751
01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:37,000
Just to make all of those things happen even at the water conference staff was involved getting MWA

752
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,980
Recognized and just encourage board members

753
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:47,480
We need to be at all those events. I mean there's always times you can't make it but really make a priority when you see these on the calendar

754
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,860
To make sure that you're at everyone

755
01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:54,600
I know people go on vacations and I'm not talking about that, but just encourage everyone to be

756
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,680
we need to get up to six out of seven or seven out of seven at most of these events.

757
01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:06,600
So just trying to encourage everyone to be there and show everybody that not only we're out there,

758
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,500
but also all of the work that our staff does show them that we appreciate it. Thank you.

759
01:01:14,910 --> 01:01:17,690
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

760
01:01:17,690 --> 01:01:23,490
Yeah, I would echo what Director Page said I attended all those events too. And the one about the

761
01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:26,090
BIA, lunch and down in Ontario.

762
01:01:26,830 --> 01:01:28,470
It was kind of like an Orange County reunion.

763
01:01:29,530 --> 01:01:31,410
And it was funny, because Marina spoke

764
01:01:31,410 --> 01:01:33,730
at it, if you don't know MWA got a ward

765
01:01:33,730 --> 01:01:36,430
for participating in BIA for 20 years.

766
01:01:38,790 --> 01:01:40,130
And your old buddy Lance Eckhart

767
01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:41,650
was down there asking all the questions

768
01:01:41,650 --> 01:01:42,990
and he chaired one of the panels.

769
01:01:44,110 --> 01:01:47,130
So again, we see in California water world, it's pretty small.

770
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:50,690
Also, the General Manager for MWD gave

771
01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:57,890
keynote speech, speech, drain lunch, and it's interesting that if any of us here on this

772
01:01:57,890 --> 01:02:03,510
diocese think we're alone, no way. They have much bigger problems in other areas of California

773
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:09,930
as state water contractors, including the Colorado River problem. So we're very lucky to be part

774
01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:15,060
of that group, and yeah, I would encourage all of us to attend when we can, because you'd

775
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:20,420
a lot of information and you get to network with people and I would imagine Aqua is probably a

776
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:30,240
real big success. I've never gone that don't count on that. That was great. So, and staff,

777
01:02:30,940 --> 01:02:35,020
man, I'm WAs and Force, statewide, which is really nice to see.

778
01:02:36,910 --> 01:02:44,550
Director Hoffman, no comments. Okay, I also wanted to thank Tesfay and Ops and the team.

779
01:02:44,550 --> 01:02:49,470
I know free use might be one of your first big construction projects at agency.

780
01:02:50,070 --> 01:02:55,030
You took on a lot of pressure to complete that and good job.

781
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:57,170
And also the ops for taking it over.

782
01:02:58,530 --> 01:03:01,170
And I thought everything went well the other day.

783
01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:04,570
It's that interesting piece of actual construction.

784
01:03:05,350 --> 01:03:09,090
And then you get to the, wow, that's it.

785
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:09,710
Great.

786
01:03:09,710 --> 01:03:12,570
just sprays water, but what does it do?

787
01:03:12,930 --> 01:03:14,790
Well, this stuff used to get dumped on the ground

788
01:03:14,790 --> 01:03:16,270
and then we had to pick it up and take it somewhere.

789
01:03:16,550 --> 01:03:18,170
Now we just, right back in the water, really?

790
01:03:18,310 --> 01:03:20,470
That's cool, yeah, it's really cool.

791
01:03:21,190 --> 01:03:22,070
So thank you for that.

792
01:03:22,070 --> 01:03:24,010
Also the BAA conference, I thought,

793
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:26,050
was interesting, actually, 20 years,

794
01:03:26,410 --> 01:03:28,850
always something different to talk about,

795
01:03:29,110 --> 01:03:31,310
always a new challenge to noodle on.

796
01:03:32,490 --> 01:03:35,830
And it's, I think it's really worthwhile for half a day

797
01:03:35,830 --> 01:03:39,030
to take on a lot of information like that.

798
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:46,950
And so with that, Director reports has done discussion items for next or future agenda.

799
01:03:49,350 --> 01:03:50,510
I have one idea.

800
01:03:52,090 --> 01:04:01,390
I haven't completed my full comments yet, but I'm very curious about what we're going to get as an update from modeling.

801
01:04:01,390 --> 01:04:10,050
And I would hope that the PRE, P-E-R-O, we could have some type of overall status about that.

802
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:13,890
I know it didn't get talked about much at the master plan,

803
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:19,630
I mean, it's with the stakeholders, the modeling aspects of specifics about it.

804
01:04:21,590 --> 01:04:25,330
But I think it's an issue that this agency needs to get in hand.

805
01:04:25,330 --> 01:04:39,470
It's only recently come to head because of the situation with the watermaster and that issue which is, in my opinion, a very separate issue from developing a water model for the modern river drainage basin.

806
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:44,690
To rely on the Stamos model in Bolton 84 in my opinion is not correct.

807
01:04:45,090 --> 01:04:51,570
We need to update that and I think our staff is like the hydrogeological gods of the

808
01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:51,990
high desert.

809
01:04:52,270 --> 01:04:58,190
They know every looking cranny about the river and knowledge we can clean from it today and

810
01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:59,130
what where we need to.

811
01:05:00,050 --> 01:05:08,570
So, we're not talking out of our hat. And so I think that's an important thing for our future. I'd like to see that on behalf of you.

812
01:05:09,110 --> 01:05:11,410
Okay, thank you. Director Cox, absolutely.

813
01:05:12,010 --> 01:05:18,630
I really appreciate you bringing that up because those of us that were on the watermaster call with the court.

814
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:29,950
We saw once again, many of the engaged parties were mentioning the model and are putting an awful lot

815
01:05:29,950 --> 01:05:35,010
stake in what that model is going to provide. And I think it's

816
01:05:35,570 --> 01:05:41,730
freely, really important for us to convey what the model is not.

817
01:05:42,030 --> 01:05:46,950
What it will not cover because they're all looking at it as the

818
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:51,290
panacea to answer all these unanswered questions.

819
01:05:52,050 --> 01:05:57,710
And I really think we need to set the expectations for what they

820
01:05:57,710 --> 01:06:01,070
can expect, particularly the judge,

821
01:06:01,550 --> 01:06:05,690
because he seems to put a lot of credence

822
01:06:05,690 --> 01:06:08,990
in, you know, the crystal ball in this model.

823
01:06:10,070 --> 01:06:16,310
And I just, I don't want the agency to be discredited

824
01:06:16,310 --> 01:06:19,510
if it is not all things to all people

825
01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:22,670
as they think it will be.

826
01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:26,650
So, if we can begin now kind of articulating

827
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:33,790
what that model is, and particularly what it is not, because you hear the Baja folks saying,

828
01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:39,350
oh, it's going to tell us all the answers, and that is definitely not the case.

829
01:06:40,570 --> 01:06:42,350
Point, excellent point.

830
01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:42,930
Okay.

831
01:06:43,710 --> 01:06:44,830
Anything else?

832
01:06:45,610 --> 01:06:46,090
All right.

833
01:06:46,290 --> 01:06:54,310
We will now move to closed session items, and we have item 13 public employee performance evaluation,

834
01:06:54,310 --> 01:06:58,370
General Manager, Conference Call of Legal Counsel, Existing

835
01:06:58,370 --> 01:07:02,310
Litigation, Name of the Case, Sierra Club,

836
01:07:03,190 --> 01:07:07,270
Ethel versus City of Barsto, at Al, in San Bernardino County,

837
01:07:08,050 --> 01:07:12,310
and Conference with Real Property Negotiations on

838
01:07:13,110 --> 01:07:15,970
1,2037 Cordero Road, Feline,

839
01:07:17,630 --> 01:07:20,690
Negotiator, Adnan, Abtaway, Negotiate, Parties,

840
01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:25,450
under Finance, Under Negotiation, Price, and Terms for Payment.

841
01:07:26,570 --> 01:07:30,190
Number 16 conference with real property negotiators,

842
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:35,490
APN 30703-8116.

843
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:37,810
High pool.

844
01:07:39,050 --> 01:07:40,130
I might want to check that.

845
01:07:42,010 --> 01:07:43,770
Negotiator Adnan, Annab Tauay,

846
01:07:44,050 --> 01:07:45,190
Negotiating Party, Lee Shwan,

847
01:07:45,790 --> 01:07:49,710
He, Under Negotiation, Price, and Terms.

848
01:07:49,710 --> 01:07:53,590
Out of 17, conference with real property negotiators,

849
01:07:54,750 --> 01:08:00,610
property APN 306537103, again, it looks a little odd.

850
01:08:01,130 --> 01:08:04,530
Agency negotiator, Adnan, and I'm telling negotiating party

851
01:08:04,530 --> 01:08:08,310
to say sues moderato, moderato, under negotiation

852
01:08:08,310 --> 01:08:09,770
price in terms of payment.

853
01:08:10,570 --> 01:08:13,330
Item 18 conference with real property negotiators,

854
01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:17,750
eight, four, two, three, fifth street, feeling California.

855
01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:25,950
Agency negotiator, Adnan Annabtawi, Negotiating and Parties, Hesus Granados, Under Negotiation

856
01:08:25,950 --> 01:08:30,430
Price in Terms of Payment, and Finally, Conference with Real Property Negotiators,

857
01:08:31,450 --> 01:08:39,450
Property 8953 Wattie Drive Victorville, Agency negotiator, Adnan Annabtawi, Negotiating

858
01:08:39,450 --> 01:08:44,810
Party, Erin Hemenez, Under Negotiation Price, and Terms of Payment,

859
01:08:46,820 --> 01:08:47,840
and we will adjourn

860
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,680
close session at 10.38. Thank you.

861
01:08:51,980 --> 01:08:57,140
And on the items, what was the first item? 15?

862
01:09:02,230 --> 01:09:08,710
Yeah, okay. So items 13 through 19, we're discussing close session and we have no

863
01:09:08,710 --> 01:09:12,990
reportable action. Thank you very much. We'll adjourn the meeting at 12.37.