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[0:00] And provide the invocation.
[0:24] Father and heaven, we come before thee, this beautiful day, give thee thanks for thy bountyous blessings for the sky and the rain and wind.
[0:40] Everything that makes this wonderful land be what it is. We are grateful for thy omnipresent.
[0:52] that helps us in everything that we do.
[0:56] We thank the Father for the rain that we receive in this thirsty basin.
[1:03] And if it be that will, we pray for more,
[1:06] that we may be able to manage the water resources
[1:10] to the best possible uses.
[1:14] Bless us, Father, as we go throughout our lives in our daily activities that we may be safe,
[1:25] that we will find pleasure in what we do.
[1:29] Bless this board as they discuss the needs on the agenda,
[1:34] that they will feel a vinespiration and be able to discern the best path to take.
[1:41] Bless all the residents in this great high desert that they will be safe and happy and healthy.
[1:52] Bless those who are serving this country at home and abroad, especially the police and the first responders that they as they take care of our lives will be able to return to theirs.
[2:08] These things we ask commonly in my sense name, Jesus Christ, amen.
[2:18] Thank you.
[2:18] I'll call to order the August 20th, 2026, regular meeting of the Board of Directors,
[2:24] Mahavi Water Agency at 932, and I'll ask Director Floan from Joshua Basin Water to
[2:32] lead us in the pledge
[2:37] of the United States of America, and the Republic for which it stands,
[2:42] formation under God, and in this world with liberty and justice for all.
[2:51] Thank you. Okay. Roll call, please.
[2:59] Director Page.
[2:59] I'm here. Director Vermeer is, Director Limbar, Director Cox, Director Hoffman, President
[3:07] West.
[3:11] Okay, and we have Director Raleigh's just participating remotely as an observer today,
[3:17] I believe.
[3:18] So he's online.
[3:19] We also have about 19 guests online and folks in the room, thank you.
[3:24] Can we have a, so are we going to vote by Granicus or no?
[3:30] On time we get that.
[3:31] Are we going to vote by Granicus or by Granicus?
[3:33] Okay.
[3:34] All right.
[3:35] So we have the approval of the agenda.
[3:41] But that's so fast.
[3:45] And I have a motion by Director Lombon, a second by Director Page.
[4:04] Item four, public participation.
[4:06] The public comment period is limited to five minutes per person and not more than 15 minutes in total.
[4:12] Anyone wishing to address any matter pertaining to agency business listed on the agenda or not may do so at this time.
[4:20] However, the Board of Directors may not take action in the action on items that are not on the agenda.
[4:26] Please submit speaker card to the clerk or use the chat box in the go to meeting to notify the clerk that you wish to speak.
[4:32] Do we have any speakers at this time?
[4:35] There are none at this time.
[4:36] Okay.
[4:36] Thank you.
[4:37] All right.
[4:37] Moving right along.
[4:38] We'll go to item five.
[4:41] Master plan workshop.
[4:42] Evaluation scenarios.
[4:44] General manager.
[4:45] And I'm telling you.
[4:46] Good morning.
[4:47] As we pull the slide deck up, this would normally be given by, well, presenting today is going to be myself and Wesley.
[4:56] Melody was going to give this presentation, but she is currently attending.
[5:00] A strategic planning session with VBWRA, they're undergoing something, I don't know if I'd say similar, but in
[5:06] the same vein as what we're doing under master planning, and so she's attending that
[5:11] stands for Apology, so you can't be here for this presentation.
[5:15] And the less, we also have Greg Young joining remote, so if there are particular questions,
[5:20] and Greg, I'll invite you as well if you'd like to just chime in during this slide.
[5:26] That works too.
[5:31] There you go.
[5:32] Okay.
[5:33] As part of this workshop,
[5:35] continues our monthly cadence of updates to the board.
[5:40] And so with that, let's move on.
[5:42] As a reminder,
[5:44] Next slide, please.
[5:47] As a reminder,
[5:47] to sort of the anchoring questions,
[5:49] the master planning process is
[5:50] intending to have answered,
[5:55] and commitment by the board is what outcomes
[5:57] are we committing to over the next five years? Why are we committing those to accomplishing those
[6:02] things as opposed to other things we could be doing? How are we planning to accomplish them?
[6:08] How much do we expect they will cost? And how are we going to pay for them? We've brought this
[6:15] back over and over again, but those remain the sort of anchoring questions that we intend to have
[6:19] answered by the end of this process.
[6:23] Next slide, thanks. This slide is also familiar to you by this point.
[6:28] This is the the process illustrated for you.
[6:34] We've done all of the front loaded work required to get us
[6:37] to where we're at today, including the pre-cycle
[6:40] engagement cycle work, which included homework
[6:43] by the agency staff to identify and write down
[6:47] our institutional knowledge understanding, historical context.
[6:51] The current set of services that the agency has been providing
[6:54] and has been considering providing.
[6:57] We've well into the engagement cycle one, which many of you have been a part of the level one or two one engagement we've done so far out in the eight planning areas.
[7:09] There are two other tiers.
[7:11] I'll get to that in a separate slide.
[7:13] But we're still in this cycle.
[7:15] We're also going to be beginning the pre cycle two engagement work, which is more homework for us.
[7:21] And a lot of what we're going to be talking about today, in terms of next steps, includes the work being done as part of that work, which is evaluating scenarios.
[7:32] We still intend to deliver the master plan for consideration by the board in February of next year, which then, of course, kicks up and tees up the next set of decisions that board will make.
[7:48] So today's focus is going to be on progress, where we're at status.
[7:52] Talk about the framework under the master plan that
[7:56] Done a slight shift to be consistent with sort of our new approach here.
[8:01] If we're evaluating, talk about evaluation scenarios,
[8:04] I think that's when West will sort of pipe in and take over the presentation.
[8:08] And then we'll talk about what's coming up for next steps.
[8:15] Okay, if you go next line.
[8:16] The project battery represents the progress of the project from a program management perspective close to halfway done, which tracks kind of where we're at in the process.
[8:29] But to talk about the status of the engagement so far, we've completed our level one engagement, which has been nine sessions and eight different planning areas with folks from different cities, land use entities, towns, retailers around a table.
[8:46] with staff and some of our board, depending on where we're at.
[8:53] That has been very well received. We've had a lot of good feedback in terms of how those went.
[8:57] The ability to share perspectives and gain some understanding.
[9:01] Oftentimes, you didn't have all those folks in the same room together in historically,
[9:05] so it was nice to have kind of that cross discussion going.
[9:09] There are two other levels of engagement as part of cycle one.
[9:13] This level 2 is non-retail stipulators in small water suppliers, one-on-one discussions, which we
[9:20] sent scientists up as virtual meetings.
[9:24] We've planned to get into the issues here, perspectives, in the same sort of format, but
[9:28] just different structure in terms of doing virtual meetings.
[9:36] There's a lot we expect a lot, nine of these to happen in the coming weeks.
[9:40] Level 3 is really the broader information out engagement, which will be in a webinar format that will be providing on September 2nd from 530-7pm available to all who want to listen in.
[9:55] And this is the level three program that you're planning on.
[10:00] Presenting, December 2nd. Is that summary of what we've done to date, or is it idea of brainstorming?
[10:10] What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what the master planning processes about where we're at in the process? What we intend to answer?
[10:18] So, sort of the tee up the set that I'm not going to ratchet down, not yet.
[10:21] Certific area needs and things like that. Yeah, agency needs. Okay. We intend that to be cycle to and I don't know, Greg, if you want to chime in at all if there's a detail you want to provide.
[10:31] I'll just add to that.
[10:32] Can you guys hear me all right?
[10:33] First of all.
[10:34] The check.
[10:36] Director Limbaugh.
[10:37] I think the intent of this is to make sure we're picking up everybody all the community members
[10:43] who just want to listen and we'll have an opportunity to have discussion at the end
[10:47] if they want to add their thoughts on wants and needs in that part.
[10:53] But we're going to present more about what the master plan is about and then open it up for
[10:59] discussion. Thank you.
[11:05] Any other questions?
[11:11] Okay. Next slide. So the planning framework is, you know, all starts with the strategic plan with the agency commits to doing at the top level.
[11:22] This rapid framework, which if you click one more time, I think we get a red line has been sort of changed over to a line.
[11:29] rapid may be familiar to you from something presented by the Zen Harrow team. I want to say almost
[11:34] close to two years ago now and I'll explain the differences between the framework, but this is
[11:38] right. How the strategic plan is going to deliver on what the board has directors to do consistent
[11:45] with the strategic plan as well as the policy to maximize value. Master planning, of course, will then
[11:53] If adopted by the board, that's the priority policies programs, projects, and helps tee up the budget prep and any policy decision making that we bring to the board for discussion and decision on.
[12:21] Next slide.
[12:22] down. And so historically, what was introduced was the rapid framework, which included a research
[12:29] and analyze, prioritize and integrate and then decide. We've shifted that now. We've
[12:35] added kind of a listening and identification step, which is really community stakeholder engagement
[12:42] focused, which was kind of a new addition to this approach. But largely the rest of the other
[12:49] things, included still track. So with assessing, we're really trying to understand, and this
[12:54] is the work we've done to this point. What's true today? What's the picture of our supply
[12:59] and demand? What are conditions? What are the issues that that staff and the board has identified
[13:04] over the years? And then, listen, is really about getting out into the community and hearing perspectives,
[13:09] what's important for our communities? How do they translate, you know, water issues for them
[13:16] and things that they're concerned with.
[13:19] And then the identification of what are the challenges
[13:22] of what are the needs and wants, what's missing,
[13:25] how do we step into the future and share success?
[13:29] Grounding everything to a strategic plan in board policies
[13:32] that we can see what it is that we can do
[13:34] in order to move the needle in those fronts.
[13:37] And then of course, the decision-making steps
[13:39] that follow which the board is in command of.
[13:43] That new process we call a line, which I like a lot,
[13:46] because it really does mean and one of the kind of the changes
[13:49] of this master plan approach was about making sure alignment happens
[13:53] not just organisationaly, but community-wise.
[13:56] Next slide.
[13:59] And then let me just say one other add-on is we realize
[14:02] rapid kind of had a tone of fast, and this is not intended to be fast,
[14:07] this is intended to be intentional.
[14:11] And the listening parts really align, they track with the
[14:16] policy that you have adopted as the board.
[14:20] Thanks, Greg.
[14:22] I'm reminded of us saying I don't know who we can credit for, but move slow, I'm in a hurry.
[14:27] So sometimes you just gotta take the time.
[14:32] All right.
[14:32] Next slide.
[14:37] Okay.
[14:38] I'll just briefly tee this up.
[14:41] This is intended to be kind of a really high level summary of what we've heard so far
[14:47] level one cycle one engagement with our Tier 1 stakeholders, but this is not the full
[14:53] comprehensive set of themes yet. So we plan to do that in one month's time where we've
[14:59] the chance to send the...
[15:00] The conversation we've had with in our entire cycle one engagement. So that's coming. But nonetheless, we did hear a lot of themes, and I thought, we thought it would be a good to share that with you all today. Go ahead, Wes. Thank you.
[15:14] Yeah, so just like I had an insight at a high level. Also, I'm pretending to be a melody today, so I'm doing it best.
[15:21] Can you hear me now?
[15:23] Yeah, okay.
[15:24] All right, trying to do my best melody impression today.
[15:27] But yeah, at a high level, we were able to kind of
[15:30] sift what we heard kind of into two categories based on the value
[15:35] propositions that the agency feels like they're offering.
[15:38] So we heard things like imported water as insurance.
[15:43] You know, we want access or just being able to have access to that water
[15:46] is important to us because we don't want water scarcity to limit our growth.
[15:52] Early alignment on planning for growth and supply. I just said that kind of ties back to the
[15:59] insurance policy, but we want to be able to, sorry, go ahead and can you share your screen?
[16:06] I'm realizing that wasn't shared. That's a small window.
[16:11] Okay.
[16:28] Is that good? It didn't work.
[16:31] You'll see a green border.
[16:35] I can still see it. It was showing online.
[16:38] Thanks, Sharon.
[16:41] I'll go. Yeah.
[16:43] Yeah, it was just a small window.
[16:45] So hopefully that's better for folks online.
[16:48] That better.
[16:50] Okay.
[16:52] We also noticed that alternatives supplies came up
[16:56] unprompted in some of our discussions, recycled water projects,
[17:02] VVWRA flows and cadets were all raised by different planning areas
[17:07] or stakeholders that we talked to.
[17:10] We also heard a lot about the costs and cost implications
[17:15] of fluctuating water levels, fluctuating water quality on water
[17:20] retail agencies and the importance of stability in those spaces.
[17:25] And the data and science are really highly requested across the service area, just that general helping water retailers understand the system that they're operating in.
[17:36] And we heard a lot that roles need to be distinguishable between the agency and water master.
[17:46] And so the evaluation themes, moving forward,
[17:51] are developing planning areas, specific risks in areas.
[17:54] They let us convert these kind of qualitative discussion
[17:57] level concerns into quantitative risks
[18:00] that we can address with them.
[18:02] Provide input to agency driven decisions
[18:04] on imported water policy and use tools
[18:07] to evaluate these risks to help define priority initiatives
[18:10] and recommendations.
[18:15] And when we're looking at these scenarios,
[18:17] we're kind of looking at them from this framework of a lot of the variables that are creating
[18:23] the conditions that we operate in our outside of our control from the agency perspective.
[18:28] We don't know the state water project allocation. We don't know how fast growth will actually
[18:35] occur. The regulatory constraints that are imposed on us can change pretty quickly if you look at
[18:41] water quality, minimum contaminant levels,
[18:45] or new emerging contaminants of concern.
[18:48] Then local supply, what happens locally in our hydrology
[18:51] is something that we have to respond to and live with.
[18:56] And then there are choices based on those conditions
[18:59] that we do have control over, which
[19:00] is what we do with the water that's available to us each year,
[19:03] where and when we bank it, which projects we build,
[19:07] and what we fund it in what order.
[19:09] And those decisions support the ongoing master planning and priorities.
[19:18] So just this is the image, I think we've all seen quite a bit, but it's just that continued
[19:23] decline in reliability from the state water project that we've seen in recent years.
[19:29] And this year's allocation of, you know, 45% was still below that 53% average that DWR published
[19:39] in their most recent delivery capability report.
[19:41] Have a question, Wes?
[19:43] Yeah.
[19:44] The delivery capacity.
[19:46] What is, is that DWR's curve, the dark black line?
[19:51] That's delivery capability.
[19:53] And yeah, that's the DCR, the delivery capability
[19:55] report that's published every two years from DWR.
[20:00] The allocator of the 100% they could only give us 50?
[20:02] No, that's their model, the average looking based on different hydrologies that they run through their system.
[20:12] They're expected planning level average for people to project forward with.
[20:18] So, you can see through time they're telling people that, you know, in 2002, you're going to get maybe 75% as a planning number,
[20:27] looking forward for the state water project and now they're telling you it's closer to 53%.
[20:39] And then this is our local hydrology at the bar slow gauge. So as you can see we haven't
[20:44] had back to back wet years, which was more than 200 acre feet of flow at that gauge since 1980,
[20:51] so that's 46 years ago. And this is just something that we continue to monitor locally as we we think
[21:01] about uses, increasing in our service area
[21:05] and the impacts that could have on groundwater levels
[21:07] if our local hydrology continues this trend.
[21:11] And so this feeds into the scenarios and the choices
[21:14] that we make because how we plan around these types
[21:19] of conditions changes our behavior.
[21:23] And it has direct impact on things like water quality,
[21:26] stability, water level stability for the region.
[21:29] and those have been mentioned as important to our stakeholders.
[21:37] So the evaluation tools, some of these we already have developed,
[21:40] some of them are in draft or refinement phases,
[21:45] and some of them are work that we still have ahead of us.
[21:47] But we have some MWA developed in house groundwater models.
[21:51] We also have regional groundwater models that were developed by USGS in the past.
[21:58] We have a decision support tool that's being refined
[22:00] As the master plan evolves, our important water surplus and deficit model is in draft form but that's looking at the probabilities and uncertainties around supply and demand growth and looking at what surplus and deficits look like over time.
[22:18] We're also starting the project of new more robust financial models.
[22:23] We have water balance accounting, and then our CRM-S asset management project for our infrastructure.
[22:31] Then in the next few months, staff will conduct scenario analysis using many of these tools to help further define master plan priority or recommendations.
[22:42] This is just our, where we're at in our schedule.
[22:47] The master plan project management team committed to monthly updates to the board, so we're in August.
[22:52] and this is the update for our evaluation scenarios.
[22:56] And then moving in the September
[22:58] will be the cycle one engagement debrief
[23:00] or you'll get a lot more details
[23:02] about the things that we heard
[23:03] from the different stakeholders in our region.
[23:08] And with that, are there any questions
[23:10] any guidance for the team as we move forward?
[23:14] Thank you.
[23:15] To my left, Director Ramirez.
[23:18] Director Page.
[23:19] Director Cox.
[23:21] Are you several?
[23:22] Okay.
[23:25] page three.
[23:33] There's slide three.
[23:42] And then for this, I guess my question is,
[23:47] we've got the July august engagement cycles,
[23:51] and then in December of this year is when the recommendations
[23:57] are going to be coming forward to the board from staff.
[24:02] It seems like a real crunch of time in between that time period, especially considering
[24:12] we haven't even introduced a financial analysis that Sanjay is doing, but like we need
[24:22] to extend that time frame.
[24:24] Next question.
[24:26] We don't want that in stone, and we gotta get something done that might be subpar
[24:32] and not including all the financial analysis.
[24:36] So at this point in time, what your thoughts about that time brand?
[24:40] Good question.
[24:41] The team is talking about this now.
[24:42] We committed to a February, actually, to have a board adoption.
[24:46] I don't, the board, we want to bring it all to the board for discussion as we go through
[24:52] this process.
[24:53] But really, January is when we're talking about a lot of the meat, but that's fair.
[24:57] That's very, it's very compressed.
[24:59] other.
[25:00] The reason for the February timing was the intent was to use and leverage any board adopted master plan in the budget prep.
[25:07] That being said, if we are finding that there will be value in not brushing, because, right, the end of the day, we want to do this right.
[25:16] So we'll need to just talk about what it will take if more discussion is needed. So that's still flexible, but we drive towards a target, and we'll see.
[25:27] Now, in December, what will be happening?
[25:32] Greg, Greg, why don't you chime in and then I'll clean up.
[25:37] After you're finished, Adnan.
[25:39] After you're okay, that's fine.
[25:41] So, cycle one is about listening,
[25:44] orienting, understanding perspectives,
[25:46] staff then does the work of exploring, right?
[25:49] It's really about developing common language, right?
[25:53] Something like managing,
[25:55] important water supplies by engaging in multi-year transfers means very little to a planning
[26:00] area with land use plans. But when frame that way, but when we talk about system reliability
[26:09] and water delivery reliability, as well as cost implications and affordability, that's
[26:14] when it matters. And so, drawing that nexus and connecting the threads is what the intent
[26:19] of cycle one is to hear what drives and then to orient language around describing activities
[26:25] you do and how they advance those things.
[26:28] Cycle two is about sharing that and getting sort of a shared understanding of the sets
[26:34] of activities that would move that us in a direction that matters to them.
[26:40] And then the board adoption around those things would be about recognizing that set of information
[26:45] to inform next level decision making.
[26:48] So, I don't think that even with adoption of a master plan, it commits the board in any way
[26:54] to any financial policy decision making or commitments to any projects really.
[26:59] It's about recognizing and committing to using the information available in the master plan
[27:05] as a good set of information to use to inform that decision making.
[27:09] So, this decision making still follows this process.
[27:11] I guess I misunderstood what Sanjay's role is because I thought that was going to be integrated into the master planning.
[27:22] Not directly, it's going to leverage. So if one of the things we recognize, oh, go ahead Greg and then I'll I'll chime in a little bit.
[27:30] I think this is a really good illustration, Director Cox, of if let's presume for a moment
[27:37] in a perfect world, the master plan came out and one of the recommended priorities that
[27:43] you adopt as a board is to prepare a strategic financial plan and then that starts and it
[27:49] has some time frame and has some budget commitments and the staff lead, etc. The reality is that's
[28:00] have some crossover and integration, but it is something that has its kind of its own timeline
[28:06] that would be a recommendation and will be recognized as a recommendation of the master plan,
[28:11] but it will have already started. So if that kind of nexus is helpful to understand how we're
[28:17] seen these pieces.
[28:22] Yeah, and another way of saying that is we've already heard from the board an
[28:26] interest in reviewing things like the reserve policy to support how we're moving into the future.
[28:31] So there's already recognition of the need, and so as Greg was saying,
[28:36] we expect fully that part of the master plan would recognize the utility of a development
[28:42] of a financial strategic plan.
[28:44] I mean, said that we can do these in parallel.
[28:48] And financial strategic plan will involve a lot of board workshop, workshoping around policy
[28:52] objective setting, and may kick off, you know, may be part of that, maybe policy setting.
[28:58] But yeah, they're obviously related here, but financial strategic planning isn't driving in the master planning, and yeah.
[29:09] Okay, and for me, because words matter, I know we've seen this chart several times, but I think it may fit better to have staff observations rather than recommendations.
[29:23] because those recommendations are then going out to externally from the agency to the stakeholder base rather than coming to the board for input.
[29:38] So maybe observations might be better, word there for the sake of semantics, then up to the battery slide.
[29:57] Oh, on that one there's
[30:01] A slice that is on hold, what is on hold that you has been determined isn't essential, maybe, to this process? Can you?
[30:11] Yeah, we described as as nice to have, so something like if we wanted to update an important water modeling spreadsheet. Nice to have, but if it was driving the schedule of this thing well beyond where we would like to have it.
[30:26] We staff made a determination kind of with all the sub team leads.
[30:31] This is nice to have. Let's put this in the parking lot for next phase.
[30:37] It's one of those things where we can spend an infinite amount of time developing stuff to unersan and allies.
[30:46] And that was the kind of the threshold drawn.
[30:49] This would be nice to have. We can explore whether it's utility, but we've got enough information or enough analysis available.
[30:55] we don't need it now. And that speaks to the nimbleness of the process then. Okay, perfect.
[31:01] And next page on engagement cycle one.
[31:12] On the level three, I'm hoping the board will get
[31:17] invitation because I know these aren't posted on the website, but if I could just request that
[31:23] the board have the opportunity to also listen in, not participate, but just to listen.
[31:31] I put it on my calendar a bit. Yeah, and there should be, I know Charlene and her staff
[31:37] have been busy with a ribbon cutting that was earlier this week and she is engaging with
[31:42] folks on our team to get the materials to get this posted and it should be showing up on the website
[31:48] and pushed out in a variety of ways within this, over the next week.
[31:53] And then under development, same slide, I'm sorry.
[31:57] What is the timing on the level two, virtual subtemperer?
[32:01] I ask you to go ahead and you want me to speak to that, yes, yes.
[32:09] So we are getting those scheduled, we just, as of yesterday, set a, the small, we had put
[32:15] We were putting out a lot of due-to-pools, making phone calls, email exchanges, trying to get people around some dates, right now it looks like we're doing a morning of the 31st of August for a virtual level 2 for small water purveyors.
[32:37] We were trying to do a couple that was maybe Lucerne Apple Valley and then another one that was more
[32:42] Baja and Central Area. But we're going to combine all that into one because we just it's hard. Those folks
[32:49] have a whole time finding availability and being able to reach them and a lot of those smalls we've been
[32:54] doing. Andrew has been making phone calls directly to people. We've been hitting people with a variety of
[33:01] efforts. So we're setting that meeting as of yesterday to the 31st in the morning. We have a more
[33:07] making some phone calls, and we are arranging for several other individuals like with CDFW,
[33:14] with a couple of larger, identified large, large stipulators that we have wanted to chat
[33:21] with that weren't already retailers under level 1.
[33:24] And so those calls have been made, and we're getting some responses on availability, and
[33:29] we're setting those as individual one-on-ones with some of those parties.
[33:33] So, we're getting those scheduled, they're not all scheduled.
[33:37] I think VVWRA meeting also gets scheduled yesterday, and that is, I'm going to have to remind myself.
[33:45] I think it's the first, let's see the 31st or that first few days of September.
[33:52] So it's not nine of the same meetings, it's about nine meetings like one, being like a specific
[33:59] stipulated. Smalls. Okay. Call with a call with C Max. We're not going to try and have everybody else on the same call. We want to call and chat with C Max to see if they have anything that they want to say, hey, I worry about this or I care about that. Okay. Sure. Yeah, I just wanted to talk about level three a little bit. That is going to be hosted on Zoom. So it would be open to anybody who wants to participate in that. We are in the process of creating a survey monkey.
[34:28] form to register only for the purpose of getting those links out to people.
[34:33] That will be listed on our website.
[34:35] We'll be putting out a press release.
[34:37] And so we're right in the middle of doing all of that right now.
[34:40] The date is set for September 2nd.
[34:42] I believe and it's going to be in the evening.
[34:45] Hoping to catch people after work,
[34:46] maybe it's going to be more available.
[34:48] Because we do want as many participants as possible.
[34:51] And it to be open to anybody to sit in on that would like to hear.
[34:55] Any other questions on this slide for doing on this particular engagement?
[35:00] Before Director Cox go ahead. State water allocation slide,
[35:12] that one. So looking at the tenure-trailing average,
[35:20] that's all kind of, look to Director Limbaue 2, that dash line does not seem that a statistical output of annual allocation and the delivery capability.
[35:39] I mean it's got that huge dip and it seems anomalous to me. Is this an output from DWR and this is what they're telling us?
[35:51] No, that's a running average of allocations looking ten years back.
[35:57] Say that again, your voice is really soft.
[36:01] Sorry, it is a running average of the previous 10 years.
[36:08] So when you have those two five percent allocation years, that is taking up 20 percent
[36:13] of the data used to create that point.
[36:16] So it's drawing it down heavily.
[36:18] Yeah, staff was interested in exploring and seeing how the trailing like last 10 years
[36:23] has tracked against the delivery capability report published by the state.
[36:27] Right, the state says, here's what we expect long-term average to be, and we wanted
[36:30] we'll have actual allocations tracked against it, and so you can see here, you know,
[36:36] there was a period of time where the delivery capability report showed lower yield,
[36:40] then we're actually getting out of the project and of course.
[36:43] But the key factor with state water allocations is year to year.
[36:48] You don't care on average other than statistical measurement,
[36:52] but the state evaluates what they release to us as state water contractors on a year to year basis.
[36:58] It's not based on 10 years prior that's in the right future.
[37:03] So what's important to us is what on average is a state telling us they're going to give us
[37:08] and what on average can their facilities deliver to us, which will be in question in the future
[37:13] more often, as you well know, they keep coming up with circumstances beyond our control.
[37:21] Yeah, I give that no.
[37:24] Sorry, go ahead, Greg.
[37:25] Maybe, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on either stretch of cocks.
[37:30] Maybe just add that this is really illustrative to say we are in a much more vulnerable and
[37:37] variable position going forward.
[37:39] So we should be considering that those high load into the future of how we manage, how
[37:44] you bring water in and that's an expectation and this is why this slide was shared with
[37:49] level 1 conversations and will be part of the level 2 and level 3 is to let people recognize
[37:55] we have waters fly available, but it varies and we need to work around that variable.
[38:03] That's really helpful. That contextualizes this slide for me and I'm wondering if I found it
[38:11] not clear how are the stakeholders viewing it. So this view back is good because
[38:17] Well, we'll iterate, I mean, this is some of this, you know, we've done things like variance, for example, like what does variance mean it's a statistical calculation, but that might be an indication of how volatile it is, how year to year annual variability affects things, which is different than the range of
[38:33] allocations and that means something for how we manage it, right? It means do we manage by building infrastructure to manage it and storage or is it through exchange relationships?
[38:42] It's great in great feedback. We'll have to continue to improve how we communicate and how to to make what point.
[38:50] I mean it makes great sense now with the explanation but I didn't didn't quite grasp it before.
[38:57] If we could go to the next slide,
[39:00] sorry, Greg, did you have something to say?
[39:03] I was just going to add that maybe,
[39:05] especially for the Level 3 webinar,
[39:08] we do this in parts where we just show
[39:10] DWR's representation of the long-term average.
[39:13] And then our actual allocations layered on,
[39:16] and then what our average is looking like
[39:18] and how it's dropped below.
[39:20] I think that's just that sequence helps explain it
[39:23] instead of just looking at one set of lines
[39:26] and graph and bars.
[39:28] And we'll do that.
[39:29] Excellent.
[39:29] Thank you for that, Greg.
[39:32] So on the bar still gauge, since Centro is, you know,
[39:37] for a couple of years now,
[39:39] been a focus of conversations,
[39:43] should we consider moving that gauge
[39:46] to a more appropriate major in place?
[39:50] Because the river has shifted
[39:51] and no longer flows towards the rock
[39:54] where the gauge is.
[40:00] Any thoughts on that?
[40:02] Oh, I wish I had something intelligible to say about that, but I've got a team I can rely on, I don't
[40:06] know, I'm looking at you, Tony, or West, if you guys have ideas, or, you know, have
[40:12] a, I would recommend not because it's got over 100, well, almost 100 year record.
[40:19] We did recently add the Daggette gauge, which is near the boundary of center on Baha as
[40:24] as the hoggage, which is the effective boundary between the TZ and central.
[40:34] It does actually
[40:35] have value when we do have those large flow events. The smaller events, yes, it's very problematic.
[40:41] But for the larger flow events, it does actually capture those when it does kind of the bank
[40:45] Thanks, low, and that would give my recommendation, what?
[40:53] Yes, I
[40:58] mean, I love more data.
[41:01] If staff feels there is a practical place to add another gauge like we did a couple of years ago.
[41:07] I'd love to see that proposal come to the board.
[41:11] And then I think my last comment is on the next page, evaluation tools is all of staff being trained and how to use these tools.
[41:26] There's a gatekeeper process or how do you envision this being deployed moving into the future?
[41:35] I think this represents the portfolio of tools the agency has developed or is in need of developing and includes,
[41:42] do I need to have, does a lot of resources, scientists need to understand how the CMS program works probably not,
[41:51] unless maybe it relates to, let's say, the wells, you know, our monitoring well network, but yeah,
[41:59] or financial models needing to be understood by the operations crew probably not.
[42:04] So I expect that the competencies around the use of these tools will sit in the various
[42:09] departments that it makes the most sense. But this process is about bringing all that together.
[42:15] And it also may identify opportunities to have things talk to each other.
[42:18] For example, it may be important that we understand the implication of depreciation of an asset
[42:26] against the CMS or, you know, an asset management program, or water balance accounting and
[42:32] import of water supply, you know, these things we may want to communicate. So some of
[42:35] this, some of the work we're doing under mass planning will identify the useful connections,
[42:40] but to make a long story short, to make a long story long out of what you asked,
[42:46] much of the understanding of these tools will still be remained, you know, with a relevant
[42:49] staff. Okay, because it's really important we don't have one person the wizard behind the curtain
[42:55] that is the only one that knows how to work the controls and then that person
[43:00] retires and we've lost a whole whole process.
[43:06] So yeah.
[43:07] And these monthly meetings are incredibly helpful to for me.
[43:13] I don't want to speak for the rest of the director.
[43:15] So I really appreciate staff taking the time and bringing this in.
[43:22] Welcome.
[43:23] On that same slide, I guess while we're on there and then I'll go to the right.
[43:28] So MWA developed models, we hear a lot about the model in the timeline.
[43:33] So there is something there, I mean we have the upper base model and then we have tools
[43:37] that we're developing.
[43:39] So if we could just maybe just summarize quickly the ability we have now to use this newer
[43:47] model.
[43:48] What I call the newer model, not the USGS.
[43:51] We have pieces.
[43:53] Yeah.
[43:54] I wish Koppos in the room because he could give you.
[44:00] And it's not to put you on the spot about deadlines more.
[44:05] Everybody here, so we have to wait for the model.
[44:06] We have to wait for the model.
[44:07] But I just wanted to record that there's tools available to do some analysis.
[44:12] There is, I think, a few years back, we paid for the USGS.
[44:17] So there's a model for discernment, there's a model for the upper basin.
[44:23] So there's tools, yes.
[44:25] Thank you.
[44:26] Also, depending on where we're going to be working and when I've been
[44:29] out as we have tools.
[44:31] All right.
[44:31] Thank you very much.
[44:32] The problem.
[44:32] I'll just mention we have ideas.
[44:34] You know, I've had an idea of what I was an engineering to have a surface
[44:37] water model that then integrated within a groundwater model, right?
[44:39] Because we know we want to understand how my hobby river flows when it's whether
[44:43] it's artificial or natural flows, how it interacts with the basin.
[44:47] There's a lot of appetite and interest in understanding and analysis tools and
[44:51] it's a matter of what we want to push on when.
[44:53] there's there's more want than there is resources and it all done but but we do have quite a bit of capability
[45:02] I think that concluded, yeah, concluded Director Cox's comments. I'm Director Limbaugh, you have any additional questions or comments?
[45:10] Yeah, I would agree with Director Cox, it was I attended three, three of the meetings and they were all very informative.
[45:18] I guess my question to you, Ed Dennis, when we talk about the master plan, big holders involvement in the master plan is fundamental.
[45:31] I think we've all agreed to that over the past ever since integrated regional water management planning started in our agency.
[45:40] So when I look at the evaluation tools, and I see at the bottom there, define master plan
[45:46] priority recommendations.
[45:49] Those are agency priorities, period, correct?
[45:58] And because there's a wealth of those that were not directly related to the meetings that we had
[46:04] with stakeholders, not directly related to meetings we had with stakeholders, then there's
[46:09] whole set of other priorities that could develop out of stakeholder involvement interaction.
[46:17] So when we talk about what we're going to look at in the master plan, it's not only
[46:22] a project in Yucca Valley or a recharged basin in the Victor Valley area, it's also what are
[46:29] we going to do about supplemental water deliveries in 20 years.
[46:33] It's also what are we going to do about understanding the transition zone and how VVWRA impacts it today rather than relying on data in the past.
[46:43] So I mean, it's a whole big picture of the agencies overall activities given the resources that we have now and in the future.
[46:53] Okay, that's all I wanted to make sure that this wasn't just a report on what the stakeholders all told us.
[46:58] Now let's go sift through them and figure out what we can do.
[47:01] Yeah, and I'll I'll raise you to by saying that it's not just about identifying the priorities, but it's also identifying the sequence of priorities. I just mentioned I would have loved to get involved in XYZ, right, but is that the most is that the best use of my time now, or does that make more is that more relevant in five years when XYZ even though it's all know some of those main priorities in the top five they're all they're always going to be there they're never going to go away. Right. So that's all comments.
[47:31] It's a staff, it's a staff that did play book, right?
[47:34] That's right.
[47:35] So a job at all those, including the Zenzeha people,
[47:40] I thought the meetings were...
[47:41] Then here else.
[47:42] Zenheiro, yeah.
[47:43] Sorry.
[47:43] Rebrand.
[47:44] He's a kicker for the dolphins.
[47:46] I know.
[47:47] Again, I'm confused.
[47:49] It's a kicker, right?
[47:51] But yeah, it was...
[47:54] Birds, as how they went, I thought it was nice to walk into the
[48:00] and have them really support our efforts here.
[48:05] So, and a staff so involved.
[48:08] Thank you, Director Hoffman.
[48:11] No, thank you.
[48:12] I guess my, I want to thank staff for all the hard work
[48:17] and the presentations.
[48:19] I know there's a lot of work to schedule all that
[48:22] and get everyone together.
[48:24] So I think that went really well.
[48:26] I attended several.
[48:27] Back to engagement cycle status, I just wanted to say that I'm interested in the August 31st
[48:35] listening session or virtual meeting to see what's happening in Lucerne with our small systems.
[48:42] Near and near to my heart, and then I think it'd be important for all of us.
[48:48] I think just to know that these meetings are happening as far as the board,
[48:52] So that if there's a particular area that they're interested in hearing about that, they could at least attend and listen.
[48:58] Probably have a less of an issue just sitting online, right?
[49:02] With more than three factors and assuming.
[49:06] But again, keeping in mind, we want to try to maintain no corums.
[49:09] Yeah, I mean, I would defer to Steve Kennedy's council on that.
[49:12] But I would say in the same format we ran the last ones where we have.
[49:15] We keep it to, you know, three or less.
[49:17] We'll make sure that the relevant district representative is formed of that conversation so that you can, you know, if you want to be part of it.
[49:27] Yeah, just so we're cognizant of that and all this stuff's running.
[49:30] It's coming up fast next month is what I was sort of hearing that you want to get through all these and so I'd be interested in anything happening in division two, I guess, as far as that goes.
[49:41] Any last questions comments from the board?
[49:44] Any public comment?
[49:47] there was none at this time. Okay. All right. I guess that concludes our workshop for
[49:53] day. Thank you. We can go ahead and move to consent calendar items.
[50:00] We have adopt board actions from regular minute meeting, August 6, 2026, and consider authorizing design review, approval, an execution of a turnout agreement, by the California Department of Water Research for the OS, they based in groundwater recharge project. And with that, we'd entertain a motion.
[50:21] have
[50:25] a first-by-director page and second-by-director Cox.
[50:32] All right, moving right along, item, what
[50:38] did it?
[50:42] There we go.
[50:44] All right, concluding item, consent calendar item 6 and 7,
[50:49] new business, eight, consider awarding a contract for
[50:53] drilling and construction of the headwaters monitoring law.
[50:57] General Manager, and I'm telling you.
[50:58] Thank you.
[50:59] This item was reviewed with the PREO committee last week, I want to say, and Jerry
[51:08] will walk you through, but there was a request by the committee to understand some of
[51:12] the variants, why we saw the spread in the bid, so Jerry's prepared an additional slide
[51:18] for this discussion so that you're aware of the biggest item that created that spread.
[51:25] Without Jerry, if you want to take it away, thank you.
[51:28] Thank you, Adnan, and good morning.
[51:31] So yes, today we'll be talking about
[51:34] consider awarding a contract for drilling
[51:36] construction of the headwaters monitoring
[51:38] well.
[51:39] We'll go over the background, technical
[51:42] specifications, the bidding process,
[51:44] the bid results, and the recommendation.
[51:48] The little background, like Adents and we did
[51:50] go to pre-alast week to authorize,
[51:54] to discuss authorizing the bid,
[51:56] go to the drillers.
[51:59] And then here we have a picture of, like Eric,
[52:05] excuse me, like Arrowhead monitoring well,
[52:07] that it's a, we're placing this one with,
[52:10] or I'm sorry that we're replacing that one with.
[52:15] It will be located in the same area
[52:18] on Arrowhead Lake Road on Randall and Stonehenge Avenue
[52:22] in his spare yard.
[52:25] And then it will provide MWA with the means to obtain
[52:29] aquiferic specific water levels, water quality data.
[52:33] And it does fill those important gaps in data collection
[52:36] and the conceptual models.
[52:39] And then we do have 386,000, 343 dollars in grant funds for this.
[52:47] Technical specifications, it will be drilled using direct mud rotary.
[52:51] It's estimated to be drilled about 750 feet or until we hit bedrock, which ever comes first, and then it will be a three-casing nested well.
[53:03] The bidding process is posted on May 28th, and Advertised on Bidnet.
[53:08] We had a site visit on June 11th. The bid was closed on July 20th, and then as soon as they closed on July 20th, the bid's were opened.
[53:17] The bid results were as follows, Southwest Pump and Drilling was $808,000.
[53:25] Waterwell service ink was $177,000.
[53:31] Greg Drilling was $511,000.
[53:34] Jane H. Drilling company was $455,000.
[53:38] Yellowjacket Drilling Services is $419,000.
[53:42] and then ABC Leovon drilling ink was $333,133,110 dollars.
[53:51] In response to the questions raised at Prio, we'd
[53:55] regarding the difference between the bids.
[53:57] We did compare the individual bid items.
[54:01] Mobilization and demobilization showed the largest dollar variation.
[54:06] It ranged from $50,000 for ABC Leovon to $300,000 for $1,000 southwest.
[54:12] about a $8,250,000 difference.
[54:17] This demonstrates the significant variation
[54:20] in how the contractor's priced individual components of the work.
[54:25] And then we also reviewed ADC liovins complete
[54:27] at scheduled to make sure that the lower price
[54:29] wasn't the result of any omitted bit items.
[54:32] And then all required bit items
[54:34] were included in price than that.
[54:38] And then staff recommends the Board of Directors'
[54:40] authorised staff to enter into a contract with ADC
[54:43] of in drilling ink for drilling construction services of headwaters monitoring well for a total
[54:49] not to exceed the cost of $333,110 dollars. Thank you and I'll take you in questions.
[55:00] Dr. Cox? Dr. Cox?
[55:03] Just on not so much question, but just I have had professional experience with ABC, Lyovan, both on a
[55:12] potable well and numerous monitoring wells, and they do excellent work, so I'm really thrilled that
[55:20] they are the low bidder on this. Seems like we had a really good value. What was the
[55:25] engineer's estimate for this?
[55:29] I believe it's, I don't have it in front of me,
[55:31] I believe it's 400, 400, and so that's excellent,
[55:35] but we even came and under engineers' estimate,
[55:40] and it just seems like a great bid, my opinion.
[55:43] Yeah, and I'd like to add to that that we did work with them
[55:45] with the Hell of Delphalt honoring well last year,
[55:48] and they were great.
[55:52] Back to your limba.
[55:54] Yeah, we talked about this at Priole,
[55:55] But thank you for showing us the big difference, that kind of eye-opening.
[56:00] At least it wasn't a technical issue about the bid that was at a whack, so, you know, that's preference for mobilization.
[56:08] One question I do have that was raised when I saw this.
[56:13] Two meetings ago, we approved you to go out for bid for the West Victorville Wells.
[56:19] And they're budgeted at 900,000 plus per well.
[56:24] Why is this well 300,000 and those wells budgeted at 900,000 each?
[56:32] Do you mind if I take this?
[56:34] Okay.
[56:35] There's several factors that I want as well depth.
[56:38] Number well depth quoted in the one in West Victorville's 850.
[56:43] It's just 50 to 850 feet.
[56:45] This one's 750 feet.
[56:47] So it's not too different.
[56:49] Yeah, and there's borehole diameter the number of completions of the borehole diameter 14 and a quarter is that the
[56:56] West Victor, what's this one?
[57:01] The the West Victor will bill one. I think is the 18 and a half inch borehole little bigger
[57:07] Yeah, and it includes more analytical tests with zone testing and water quality sampling and things that support
[57:14] Production well drilling that are not included
[57:19] That was at 100,000 wall be very cheerful here.
[57:22] Yeah, that's a big great.
[57:24] Yeah, but just like, yeah, it's, it's just a mindset
[57:26] when the pictures look the same and it does that.
[57:30] There are a little ambiance differences.
[57:34] Yeah, I mean, the zone testing on the West Victorville,
[57:36] Wells is about $300,000 worth of data collection.
[57:40] So it's a big jump.
[57:42] There's just a big chunk of money.
[57:44] There's my little question.
[57:46] Thank you.
[57:46] But I will make a motion in the end.
[57:49] Thanks for being there.
[57:51] You can go in there.
[57:52] I have the same question about the contractors.
[57:54] So thank you for asking that.
[57:57] And would that in any other questions in any public comment?
[58:01] No, no, no, this time.
[58:02] All right.
[58:03] We had a motion in a second.
[58:06] Director Hoffman and Director Limbaugh.
[58:29] All right.
[58:32] Onto item nine.
[58:33] Managers reports.
[58:37] I just wanted to briefly mention how it was nice, it was nice to be out there and the ribbon cutting to see infrastructure get completed and water flowing.
[58:47] It was pretty amazing to see you cut the ribbon and I think it was Fred who was operating the facility.
[58:53] Turn it on right as you cut it and so water started to flow immediately. It was like a well sequenced event. It was it was great to see.
[58:59] But just want to thank staff.
[59:03] There was a lot of work involved in delivering that project
[59:05] within the budget time frame.
[59:08] I'm sorry, the grant timing,
[59:10] because we were working with both a state
[59:12] and a federal component of the grant.
[59:15] So just big kudos to you guys,
[59:17] and appreciate the board showing in great force
[59:20] to support the project.
[59:22] A lot of us great.
[59:24] That concludes my report.
[59:28] OK, legal report item 10, you know, counts of Kennedy.
[59:34] Thank you, Madam President, members of the board.
[59:36] I do not have anything to report at this time,
[59:38] though we do have a number of matters to discuss in close action.
[59:42] I thank you.
[59:43] Director reports on my left, Director Ramirez.
[59:46] Just a comment.
[59:48] It's a, I don't say it.
[59:49] It's great to see everybody's hard work.
[59:51] Take for tissue.
[59:53] Project.
[59:54] Very happy with it.
[59:59] guide.
[1:00:00] Just like comment about some of the events here of the last week or so, we had the water conference on Friday,
[1:00:10] with special districts on Monday. And we had, yes, there was a Tuesday, yeah, I'm getting my dates.
[1:00:20] We had the ground ribbon, just thank you to staff on those events and all that they do.
[1:00:30] Just to make all of those things happen even at the water conference staff was involved getting MWA
[1:00:38] Recognized and just encourage board members
[1:00:40] We need to be at all those events. I mean there's always times you can't make it but really make a priority when you see these on the calendar
[1:00:47] To make sure that you're at everyone
[1:00:49] I know people go on vacations and I'm not talking about that, but just encourage everyone to be
[1:00:54] we need to get up to six out of seven or seven out of seven at most of these events.
[1:00:59] So just trying to encourage everyone to be there and show everybody that not only we're out there,
[1:01:06] but also all of the work that our staff does show them that we appreciate it. Thank you.
[1:01:14] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:01:17] Yeah, I would echo what Director Page said I attended all those events too. And the one about the
[1:01:23] BIA, lunch and down in Ontario.
[1:01:26] It was kind of like an Orange County reunion.
[1:01:29] And it was funny, because Marina spoke
[1:01:31] at it, if you don't know MWA got a ward
[1:01:33] for participating in BIA for 20 years.
[1:01:38] And your old buddy Lance Eckhart
[1:01:40] was down there asking all the questions
[1:01:41] and he chaired one of the panels.
[1:01:44] So again, we see in California water world, it's pretty small.
[1:01:47] Also, the General Manager for MWD gave
[1:01:50] keynote speech, speech, drain lunch, and it's interesting that if any of us here on this
[1:01:57] diocese think we're alone, no way. They have much bigger problems in other areas of California
[1:02:03] as state water contractors, including the Colorado River problem. So we're very lucky to be part
[1:02:09] of that group, and yeah, I would encourage all of us to attend when we can, because you'd
[1:02:15] a lot of information and you get to network with people and I would imagine Aqua is probably a
[1:02:20] real big success. I've never gone that don't count on that. That was great. So, and staff,
[1:02:30] man, I'm WAs and Force, statewide, which is really nice to see.
[1:02:36] Director Hoffman, no comments. Okay, I also wanted to thank Tesfay and Ops and the team.
[1:02:44] I know free use might be one of your first big construction projects at agency.
[1:02:50] You took on a lot of pressure to complete that and good job.
[1:02:55] And also the ops for taking it over.
[1:02:58] And I thought everything went well the other day.
[1:03:01] It's that interesting piece of actual construction.
[1:03:05] And then you get to the, wow, that's it.
[1:03:09] Great.
[1:03:09] just sprays water, but what does it do?
[1:03:12] Well, this stuff used to get dumped on the ground
[1:03:14] and then we had to pick it up and take it somewhere.
[1:03:16] Now we just, right back in the water, really?
[1:03:18] That's cool, yeah, it's really cool.
[1:03:21] So thank you for that.
[1:03:22] Also the BAA conference, I thought,
[1:03:24] was interesting, actually, 20 years,
[1:03:26] always something different to talk about,
[1:03:29] always a new challenge to noodle on.
[1:03:32] And it's, I think it's really worthwhile for half a day
[1:03:35] to take on a lot of information like that.
[1:03:39] And so with that, Director reports has done discussion items for next or future agenda.
[1:03:49] I have one idea.
[1:03:52] I haven't completed my full comments yet, but I'm very curious about what we're going to get as an update from modeling.
[1:04:01] And I would hope that the PRE, P-E-R-O, we could have some type of overall status about that.
[1:04:10] I know it didn't get talked about much at the master plan,
[1:04:13] I mean, it's with the stakeholders, the modeling aspects of specifics about it.
[1:04:21] But I think it's an issue that this agency needs to get in hand.
[1:04:25] It's only recently come to head because of the situation with the watermaster and that issue which is, in my opinion, a very separate issue from developing a water model for the modern river drainage basin.
[1:04:39] To rely on the Stamos model in Bolton 84 in my opinion is not correct.
[1:04:45] We need to update that and I think our staff is like the hydrogeological gods of the
[1:04:51] high desert.
[1:04:52] They know every looking cranny about the river and knowledge we can clean from it today and
[1:04:58] what where we need to.
[1:05:00] So, we're not talking out of our hat. And so I think that's an important thing for our future. I'd like to see that on behalf of you.
[1:05:09] Okay, thank you. Director Cox, absolutely.
[1:05:12] I really appreciate you bringing that up because those of us that were on the watermaster call with the court.
[1:05:18] We saw once again, many of the engaged parties were mentioning the model and are putting an awful lot
[1:05:29] stake in what that model is going to provide. And I think it's
[1:05:35] freely, really important for us to convey what the model is not.
[1:05:42] What it will not cover because they're all looking at it as the
[1:05:46] panacea to answer all these unanswered questions.
[1:05:52] And I really think we need to set the expectations for what they
[1:05:57] can expect, particularly the judge,
[1:06:01] because he seems to put a lot of credence
[1:06:05] in, you know, the crystal ball in this model.
[1:06:10] And I just, I don't want the agency to be discredited
[1:06:16] if it is not all things to all people
[1:06:19] as they think it will be.
[1:06:23] So, if we can begin now kind of articulating
[1:06:26] what that model is, and particularly what it is not, because you hear the Baja folks saying,
[1:06:34] oh, it's going to tell us all the answers, and that is definitely not the case.
[1:06:40] Point, excellent point.
[1:06:42] Okay.
[1:06:43] Anything else?
[1:06:45] All right.
[1:06:46] We will now move to closed session items, and we have item 13 public employee performance evaluation,
[1:06:54] General Manager, Conference Call of Legal Counsel, Existing
[1:06:58] Litigation, Name of the Case, Sierra Club,
[1:07:03] Ethel versus City of Barsto, at Al, in San Bernardino County,
[1:07:08] and Conference with Real Property Negotiations on
[1:07:13] 1,2037 Cordero Road, Feline,
[1:07:17] Negotiator, Adnan, Abtaway, Negotiate, Parties,
[1:07:20] under Finance, Under Negotiation, Price, and Terms for Payment.
[1:07:26] Number 16 conference with real property negotiators,
[1:07:30] APN 30703-8116.
[1:07:36] High pool.
[1:07:39] I might want to check that.
[1:07:42] Negotiator Adnan, Annab Tauay,
[1:07:44] Negotiating Party, Lee Shwan,
[1:07:45] He, Under Negotiation, Price, and Terms.
[1:07:49] Out of 17, conference with real property negotiators,
[1:07:54] property APN 306537103, again, it looks a little odd.
[1:08:01] Agency negotiator, Adnan, and I'm telling negotiating party
[1:08:04] to say sues moderato, moderato, under negotiation
[1:08:08] price in terms of payment.
[1:08:10] Item 18 conference with real property negotiators,
[1:08:13] eight, four, two, three, fifth street, feeling California.
[1:08:17] Agency negotiator, Adnan Annabtawi, Negotiating and Parties, Hesus Granados, Under Negotiation
[1:08:25] Price in Terms of Payment, and Finally, Conference with Real Property Negotiators,
[1:08:31] Property 8953 Wattie Drive Victorville, Agency negotiator, Adnan Annabtawi, Negotiating
[1:08:39] Party, Erin Hemenez, Under Negotiation Price, and Terms of Payment,
[1:08:46] and we will adjourn
[1:08:47] close session at 10.38. Thank you.
[1:08:51] And on the items, what was the first item? 15?
[1:09:02] Yeah, okay. So items 13 through 19, we're discussing close session and we have no
[1:09:08] reportable action. Thank you very much. We'll adjourn the meeting at 12.37.