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Invalued on Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026, at the month in town offices, polls will be opened from 7am to 7pm.

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Before we roll into Article 1, some general housekeeping announcements.

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Jonathan, you want to make about the mic?

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So, most of these mics are very directional.

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So, if you're talking to the internet like this,

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I'm not going to hear you unless you point it at you.

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This mic stand, a little wonky.

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If you try to adjust it by tipping this mic back and forth,

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the mention of the screw will loosen up

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and the mic will just go like that all over the place.

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So, if you need to adjust it feel free,

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But better to then try to twist the stand up if it comes loose.

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I can tighten it, but kind of a pain to play.

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The other thing is, please do use the microphone.

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A lot of people think they project well.

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I think I project well.

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There are people here who are arguing and cannot hear you.

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It's speakers are done.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, sir.

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Okay.

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So that, and since we're on the topic of microphones,

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People who have questions, unfortunately, because we're recording this and we want to be sure

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we get the names and everything right.

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If you have a question, you need to stroll up and use the microphones so everyone can hear.

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I'm shouting from the back plate.

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Also you need to be recognized, in other words, you know, put your hand up with the

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article and I'll move back and forth till I get, you know, everyone's question is answered.

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Hopefully, I sometimes miss votes, but I'll try and not do that.

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Yeah, so we'll go article to article,

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keep in mind with articles that they need to be moved

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and seconded before there could be discussions.

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Votes are one of three ways.

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We do a voice vote initially.

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And then, if I think the voice vote is too close for me to call,

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I'll ask the board of civil authority to come up

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and we'll do what's called the Division of the House,

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where we'll have people stand for their particular votes

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and they'll be counted.

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If seven among you at any time, what a written ballot, paper ballot, seven of you can

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so request, seven reward.

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So that's pretty much it.

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Let's get started.

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Article 1 to elect all town officers by Australian ballot.

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Article 2, shall the voters authorize payment of real and personal property taxes on November 16th,

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2026 by the delivery to town hall by that date, or postmarked on or before that date?

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Can I have a motion, please?

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Motion?

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Is there a second?

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I have a second?

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Joeman in the Purple Sweater Name?

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Roger.

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Roger.

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Roger.

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All right. Thank you. Article two has been moved in second. This is a standard article we have every year that basically just sets the do beginning for our property taxes. Any questions or discussions.

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Ready for the vote? Article two, shall the voters authorize payment of real and personal

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property taxes on November 16th, 2026 by delivering the town hall by that date or postmark

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on our before that date? All those in favor signify by saying aye? All those opposed signify

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I say no, the eyes appear to have it, the eyes do have it, article two carrots,

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article

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three, shall the voters appropriate $22,349 to the following social service agencies.

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A, Addison County Community Action Group, hope $1,250, B, Addison County Home Health

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Hospice Inc. $1946. See, Addison County Restored of Justice Services. $550.

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D. Addison County Parenthood Child Center. $1600. E. Addison County Readers. $450. F. H. Well. $1,500.

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She, Bristol Family Center, $250, $H, Bristol Rec, the Department, $2,000.

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I, Counseling Service of As in County, $1,600.

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J, elderly services, $800.

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K, green up Vermont, $1,150.

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L, have a heart food shelf, $200.

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And Heinzburg Food Shill, $500.

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And, homework bound, you've aint society, $250.

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Oh, John Graham emergency shelter, $1,000.

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Be, Lewis Creek Association, $550.

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Q, Mountain Mentors Program, $1,000.

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Our Open Door Clinic, $500.

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S, Otter Creek Natural Resources, Conservation District, $198.

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T. Red Cross $500. You retired and seen your volunteer program $460. V. Rural Fire Protection Program $100.

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Devia, Tri-Valley Transit $850.

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X, turning point center of Addison County $1,000.

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easiest for food besecapers, why for months adult learning $700.

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Z, for a month for independent living habits and $155,

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formerly women's safe, $1,250 B, B made cobe, $1,000.

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Is there a season?

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—Is there a second?

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second. Second. Okay, so it's been moved and seconded. We vote on this as a block that doesn't mean that

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individual line items can't be amended, but that's typically how we've done things years past.

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I just wanted to ask if there are any new agencies added this year, or agencies which substantially change their request.

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So, like board?

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Good morning.

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There are two such questions.

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Yes, thank you.

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All right.

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Can you hear me now?

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Thank you so much.

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Acorn BB on the very bottom is a new social service.

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And the Mungton Mentors Program increased from $500 to $1,000 this year.

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Those are the two changes.

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Yes, sir.

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I have a question, but the largest item on there appears to be Bristol Recreation Department, and I wonder what the taxpayers a month didn't get in return for that.

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like board or somebody else?

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That good? Okay. Great question. Thank you.

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Morning. I'm Stan Pish. I've been in the cycle for a year. I don't know if I know

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everybody, but I'm just wanted to introduce myself. So, Bristol Rack also runs a lot of

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programs that munked in kids and residents take part in. So, just like their, you know,

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fire department, you know, we sometimes get support from them or the rescue. So, that's why

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that article is in there and why it pertains to munked.

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Other questions or comments under article

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Ready for the vote? Okay. Article 3. Show the voters appropriate $22,349 to the following

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social service agencies. A. Addison County Community Action Group. Hope. $1250.

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B. Addison

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County Home Health and Hospice Inc. $1946. C. Addison County Restored of Justice Services.

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$550, D Addison County Parent Child Center $1,600, E Addison County Raiders $450, F-H-12,

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$1,500, G. Bristol Family Center $250, H. Bristol Wreck Department $2,000, J. Counseling

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Service of Addison County $1,600, J. Elderly Services $800, K. Greenup Vermont $150,

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dollars. L have a heart food shelf $200. M. Heinzburg food shelf $500. And homework bound,

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you made society $250. Oh, John Graham, emergency shelter $1,000. Pete Lewis Creek Association

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$550. Killed Munton Mentor's program $1,000. R. Open door clinic $500. S. Otter Creek Natural

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resources, conservation district, $198, T, Red Cross, $500, you retired and Senior Volunteer

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Program, $460, V, rural fire protection program, $100, W, Tri-Valley Transit, $850,

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X, turning point center of as the county, $1,000, Y, Vermont Adult Learning, $700, Z, Vermont

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center for independent living, $195, a tree of formerly women's safe, $1,000, $1,000, $1,000.

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All those in favor of Article 3 signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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All those opposed signify by saying no.

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The eyes appear to have it.

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The eyes do have it.

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Article 3 carries.

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Before we move on to Article 4,

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Senator Ruth Hardy is present and we're going to give

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her five minutes to bring us up to speed on what's going on in my bidder.

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Hi everyone.

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I'm Senator Ruth Hardy.

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I'm one of your two state senators in Addison District.

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Thank you for letting me interrupt your meeting.

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I try to get to a bunch of town meetings I just came from Stark'sboro and next I'll

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fair spurs. So thank you for letting me be on the agenda. This is my eighth session in the

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Senate and I serve on the Natural Resources Committee and the Finance Committee.

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You're probably hearing a lot about this conversation about education at the State House.

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You may recall that there was a major piece of legislation last year that was packed past

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at 73 that would call for the consolidation of school districts,

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a new funding formula, and some changes to our tax system.

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While I thought there were some good things in that bill,

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I ultimately voted against it.

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But there are still efforts right now to implement

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many of the provisions of at 73.

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So there's kind of a map war going on right now

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in the State House with different types of maps

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for how to redistrict school districts.

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Addison County and one map would be kind of all one school district and another map.

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It would be part of a larger sort of supervisor union that would cover most of the North West

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corner plus Addison County, so I don't know where things are going to end up, but that's

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what's going on.

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I'm not on the committees that are working on those maps, but in the finance committee,

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we are talking about how to fund schools and some of it is talking about how do we reduce costs

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in schools, either by working with school districts to find reductions in costs, or to

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force reductions in costs, or force reductions in expenses.

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I don't know how exactly how that's going to work, but and or to look alternative revenue

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sources, and how that could work to bring down property taxes by using alternative revenues

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that are very proposal sort of under the guise of, I don't quite love this term, but they're

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more or less under the guise of tax, the rich kind of provisions. But we're not, we haven't

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decided on anything, and this is just where what we're discussing in terms of funding for schools.

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It's a really big issue and I'd love to hear more from you all about what you're thinking.

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I know this school is very important to the community, so I'm trying my best to make sure

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that we protect small rural elementary schools and don't create public school deserts in our state.

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And then in the Natural Resources Committee, one of our big topics of discussion is land use and housing.

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You might be familiar with the sort of monumental land use law that was passed 55, 56 years ago.

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Act 250. And then there was an update to act 250, a few years ago, act 181.

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And we are taking a look at both of those and trying to make revisions to them to make it easier to build housing.

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that was the point of act 181 and we're trying to extend that even further. I know there

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are a couple of you, Sam, if you're here. For example, we wanted to talk to me about

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Act 250 and act 181. So if there's anybody else who wants to talk about anything, you can

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meet me in the hall after. But also in the natural resources committee, we've done

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some things about energy, we've passed a bill called balcony solar, plug-in solar, which

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like many solar panels for people who can't afford or get the big ones if they live in a

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apartment or just don't have the space for it and you can get a smaller one and then take

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it with you if you move. And then also I just wanted to mention two bills that are dear to my

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heart that are my bills that just passed yesterday. One is a bill called the Farm Security Fund

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And this would create a fund for farmers to dip into if they've been, if they're crops or their property has been damaged during a climate, you know, natural disaster, like a flood or a drought, which we've seen happen a lot lately, and then also build to better support libraries and make them eligible for programs that already exist.

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Mungton has a beautiful library, and I love libraries, and it would also create a library, a Vermont library day, every October.

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So trying to bring some joy amongst the really difficult issues at the state house.

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We're doing a lot of other things, and I'm happy to answer questions, but I don't want to take more time than I'm a lot of it.

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Thank you very much, Senator.

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Yeah, do you want me to take a couple of questions?

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or not really. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. But you have questions. I will go out in the hallway

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and I'm happy to chat with any of you. So thank you very much for your time today. Appreciate

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it. Thank you.

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Okay, folks. Back to the warned meeting article four. Shall the voters

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authorize general fund expenditures for operating expenses of a general fund deficit, two

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$1,043,571, 9 cents, B, salaries, and general expenses,

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$631,122,25 cents, C, Mountain Volunteer Fire Department, $197,600, D, Russell Memorial Library,

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$4,979.

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E, month in the Museum in a historical society, $1,500.

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F, wreck fund, $10,500.

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G, agricultural and natural areas fund, $30,000.

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H, highway capital projects fund, $20,000.

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For a total of $1,176,272.

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dollars and 34 cents of which 856,478 dollars and 66 cents shall be raised by taxes and 319,793 dollars and 68 cents by non-to-exrevenous.

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Is there a motion?

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So, Mr. Pelcher, is there a second?

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John, seconds.

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Okay, Article 4 has been moved and seconded, select board, I understand you want to propose an amendment to Article 4.

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Yes, please.

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For folks standing in the back, you might not have picked up the paper that's on the seats.

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There's some up here that could maybe be passed around or you could share with your neighbors.

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But this report has an amendment to Article 4 in that we want to change the general fund deficit from

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243,571 dollars in nine cents to 74,623 dollars in 64 cents.

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That's one change.

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The other change would be changing the non-text revenues from the 319,793 dollars in 68 cents to 139,793 dollars in 68 cents.

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Do I?

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Yeah, let me read the amendment proposed by the select board.

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then we'll move and second it and we'll proceed to discuss Article 4 as amended.

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Show the voters authorized general fund expenditures for operating expenses of A, general

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fund deficit.

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74,623 dollars and 64 cents.

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B, salaries and general expenses.

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$631,122.25, see month in volunteer fire department, $197,600, D, Russell, Memorial Library, $41,979, E,

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month in Museum in the Historical Society, $1,500, f-reck fund, $10,500, g, agriculture,

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natural areas fund, $30,000, h, highway capital projects fund, $20,000, for a total of

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1,7,324 dollars and 89 cents of which, $867,531,21 cents, she'll be

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raised by taxes and $139,793 and $68 by non-text revenues. Is there a motion?

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Okay, and is

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there a second?

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The amendment has been moved in second. Select board. Would you care to explain

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the purpose of your amendment?

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I

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want to be able to see everybody.

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Can folks see me?

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Here me, okay.

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Great.

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So I just want to make sure that if folks have not read, there is a sheet of paper that has,

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like, kind of, info sheet.

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And if you don't have copies, please do share with your neighbors.

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Because that guy goes into more detail about what I'm going to talk about.

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And, of course, ask me any questions.

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I just want to name that it's obviously not ideal that we're asking to amend tonight today.

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So it's more complicated than I wish it was.

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But there are clear reasons for that.

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And I want to show you that nothing untoward happened.

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This is what took place was our treasurer resumed, and we thank Bill and many of you know Bill for his

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years of service to the town. It's the best practice when a treasurer leaves to have an outside, you know,

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nonpartisan expert look at your books. So we hired NEMRIC, so there are really

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gromants like top accounting experts, almost every single town in Vermont uses NEMRIC's software, which is kind

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remarkable, and they are especially set up to advise towns when they're going through this type of

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transition. So they've been helping towns for, I think, over 50 years do this kind of thing.

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So we, we the Slack board decided to contract with them to make sure the numbers that we're proposing

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for all of you are correct because we think it's very important to be transparent with all of you and that the numbers are correct.

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If I was sitting in the seats where you are,

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I would want to be assured that an outside person looked at,

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we all looked at it, we have people in the town hall

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look at it and we had two experts from NEMRIC look at these numbers.

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So I'm confident in them to the best of our ability.

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They did recommend a couple of changes,

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which are reflected in the amendment.

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The two biggest components of that are changing how the town has

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changing how we budget for delinquencies, so in the original warning that was

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budgeted as like incoming revenue and the the best practice really is to

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not treat that as revenue because that's money that we didn't necessarily we didn't

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receive because it was delinqued. So they recommended not treating that as

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revenue, so that's why that revenue line went down by a fair amount and we

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We also, because of the way that our talent does, we're on a calendar year, not on the state

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fiscal year.

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So the education, obviously, the education topic is big, as Senator Hardy said, we don't

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know what the final rate is going to be.

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So that gets true to what our final education payment happens later in the spring.

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So there's a certain amount of money that we, as a town, hold back to be able to pay that

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state bill, the state education bill.

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And the amount that we thought we were going to hold back is a little bit different.

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So NEMRK is recommending that we actually, you know, expect you to get a credit back.

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So I have a little bit more money than we thought we were going to get.

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So that's why that number of the deficit number really came down.

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And there were a couple other funds in there that really should be accounted as true revenue.

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So again, that's also another reason why that deficit line is coming down.

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So again, we wanted to be totally transparent.

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I don't know if this has ever happened before,

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where we've had to amend the amendment on the floor,

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but we really want to make sure that all of you

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as taxpayers are voting on accurate numbers

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and there are a couple of changes that we requested

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that we may have.

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So happy to answer any questions, but one,

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do you have that context?

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OK, thank you.

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Questions or comments from the floor?

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Yes, sir.

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I want to welcome the state of your name.

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Roger Wallace, and thank you for that explanation, diving right into the part you mentioned

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about Dillmanquintaxis.

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If I understood you correctly, you said that NEMREC is recommending not the count that

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has revenue because it isn't revenue.

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However, we collect Dillmanquintaxis every single year, so if we collect them and they come

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into the town as they're showing in the town sheet,

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why aren't they revenues?

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Because we've just followed with the, we've already,

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we've deducted that from, you know,

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for instance, if we budget so much for 2025,

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and we only collect 80%, then we show that 20% reduction

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in the actual, and then we collect from not 25,

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but years prior.

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So we have it coming in as revenue every year,

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So why isn't it being reported this revenue?

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It will be.

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It will be.

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It will be.

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Yeah, just keep in mind folks.

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All comments go through the chair.

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And then I turn to whoever can answer.

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Go ahead.

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Um.

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That's a really good point, Roger.

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But, um.

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What never suggests is that we don't budget for that income.

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Because it's in liquid taxes.

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we can't count on that. So putting that in our budget is not the right practice. It will

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come in and it will become revenue and it will be reported, but not to put it in the budgeting

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so that we don't artificially inflate our revenue.

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So I understand that given that advice, but historically we can show that we can always count

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on dealing with taxes to some amount being collected.

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And so we have this historical trend that we can count on some of it.

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And at the same time, you know, based on that explanation from NEMRIC,

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we always budget a certain amount of taxes to be collected.

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We vote on a certain amount of tax being collected.

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However, we never collect that full amount.

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So you could make that exact same argument and say,

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well, we can't count on our full amount of taxes being collected.

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So we shouldn't budget for that.

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So you can't have it both ways.

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So I'm trying to understand how they can say,

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even though we have an historical trend

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of that we can collect a certain percentage

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of outscaining delinquent taxes,

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how they say we shouldn't budget that.

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Because that's implies we're always going to,

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if we don't budget it and we always collect it,

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then basically that's going to force higher tax rate

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and the towns can always be running a surplus year to year

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because we are going to be collecting delinquent taxes.

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So if you want to turn to somebody, get ahead.

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I'm Joan Holloway, and so can I turn this around so I face the audience?

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Yes sure.

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Go ahead.

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Okay, so I had a total geeky accounting moment on this one.

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So I found out, I've listened about this yesterday,

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and I thought about it all day.

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Is that right?

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Okay.

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So I thought about this all day.

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So I can't draw you any pictures, but I try to explain this

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because I had an epiphany this morning about why,

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because I had the same question that Roger had,

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which is, you have a certain amount of liquid taxes,

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but you collect a certain amount,

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so why isn't it revenue, right?

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In the very first year of the universe,

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the town sets the tax rate,

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so that you have the ground waste.

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Okay, you have the ground list and a certain,

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and you set a tax rate,

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So a certain amount of revenue comes in.

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He spent all your expenses in a perfect world

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you'd come out with zero, right?

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You would have raised as much taxes as you spent.

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However, there are some delinquent taxes. So at the end of that first year, you have a gap in your, you have a deficit in your general fund, right?

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The next year, if those delinquent taxes come in, it restores the deficit that was in the general fund.

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And so it is double counting if you count them as revenue, because they already were part of,

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I agree with you, and I would be happy to sit and draw pictures with you, because it took me about 12 hours thinking about this to understand it.

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Okay, but it's because they were saying it's double counting, and I was like, but they come in the next year, but you already counted that when you set your expenses,

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you came out to come out at zero. So the next year you can't count them again towards

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the tax rate because you would never restore that hole in your general fund. Does that make

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even a dilemma?

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So anyway, and so I would be happy to draw pictures. I think I could be

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more clear, but anyway, that's the reason. And I agree, I totally agree with your

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it did not make sense to me why you wouldn't collect them when that money comes in. But you already counted it when you set your expenses in that first year.

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We storing money owed exactly. So thank you.

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Thank you very much. OK. Other questions or comments on the amendment?

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We're still on the amendment? Yes sir?

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And then I'll get to you.

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Hi, Scott's leader.

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having worked in a non-governmental company for a lot of years.

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When there are material changes to the books recommended by the auditors,

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it may serve us in the future to have the auditors here.

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Generally, annually, we would have the auditors present to our board

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if there were questions, such as that point of order.

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Thank you. Yes, sir.

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Come on up.

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Please state your name.

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Jim Merett, so one question I have in here in the explanation doesn't quite

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shy with me is, what a county method are you using? What has the

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auditors suggested? It sounds like you're changing your accounting method, because

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you don't double your thing. You put it in a country's sea level, that's an

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country's sea level, it's on your books, it's money that's going to be

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coming in. It sounds to me like you're moving from your

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chiral method of accounting. You're different. Probably

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cash accounting. Is that what you were doing? Can you

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explain. Selectboard?

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Or, yeah, could I call on Lisa

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Burns? Are townlister?

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This is probably fine. So the best

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you might want to try.

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So I think that one of the things

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that. Hello. There we go. So one of the things I think

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that we, those of us who aren't in financial services or dealing in, you know, these types

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of numbers all the time is that we have a tendency to get confused about all the terms

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that get used.

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So when you're talking about the financial statements and the auditors, those are the

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and the method in which we are accounting for this, those are things prepared by the outside

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CPAs.

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and they conform with government-accepted standards for accounting practices.

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That's what's been done in the past.

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What's been done in the future?

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Those are different from what we do when we drop a budget.

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So it's sort of like looking at your own personal checkbook.

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The money that goes in and out.

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Those are actual.

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Our budgets that we create perhaps for our families,

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are projecting and showing what is happening in the future.

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So, you're not using necessarily accounting practices and standards for your budget, which is projecting the future, versus what has happened on your financial statements in the past.

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And I also think we have to be careful about the term we use as auditors.

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So an auditor in my world is a certified public accountant that comes in and is performing

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an actual testing of every single account on your financial statements, and they're coming back to us with

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and saying this is what we see here or these are your adjustments you need to make.

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Then we also have our auditors that we elect at town meeting, or at the on our Australian ballot,

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And those are the people that come in, are fellow neighbors that come in and look at our bank accounts and try to true them up on a monthly basis.

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What NEMRIC is doing, NEMRIC is an outside consultant. They are not our auditors.

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They are a consultant that comes in and says, hey, you know, we were experts at this.

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So we'd like to be able to help you in establishing better practices going forward.

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So I don't think NEMARC has come to us and said, you've done something wrong.

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They've said, this is a better way to do it.

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And I think that the select board has accepted those recommendations.

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So hopefully that clarifies it a little bit, and I didn't just confuse everybody.

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Okay. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, other questions, comments on the amendment?

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Yes, sir.

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And then I'll...

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John McNerny.

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With the proposed amendment, I see on page 19 you had an estimated tax rate.

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.4275.

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I'm wondering if you've had a chance to figure out how the proposed amendment affects that estimated tax rate.

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Sorry, I missed a second page.

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Sorry, I could never mind.

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Yeah, for those who, it's on the back of the handout,

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the projected tax rate goes up a smidge.

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Yes, Mr. Pilter.

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I had a question regarding the monthly

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volunteer fire department, there are $197,000 this year, I'm substantially from what it's

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been historically and a lot of it, as I can see, I think on page 72.

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It seems to relate to the truck fund that they are busy accumulating, and that's as is appropriate.

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I wonder if they could, currently, I think it's $90,000 or so going into the truck fund.

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I wonder if they could speak to how much money they need in that truck fund, and when that truck fund,

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we won't need to be putting so much money into the track fund.

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Is there somebody here from Fire Department?

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Yes, OK, he's coming up,

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Bob Howard.

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Fire Department Chief, Stephen, what?

458
00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:30,900
So back even when you were on it, we had requested $80,000 a year

459
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:36,360
to, because we have signed a contract on a truck.

460
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:44,140
And that truck was figured out that the payments on that would be about $80,000 a year.

461
00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:49,080
The truck is delayed as per usual with the manufacturers.

462
00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:58,120
And then what we asked for was another $10,000 this past year to start our next truck fund.

463
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:03,140
Because what's going to happen is when we get this truck,

464
00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:10,740
We want to take the money that we have been saving up for now because of the delay from the manufacturer.

465
00:39:11,620 --> 00:39:15,140
Whatever is there, we've most everything that is there.

466
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:19,640
We'll go towards the payment of the truck once of receipt.

467
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:27,040
And so the next $10,000 that you see, like I said, is a starter fund for our next truck.

468
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:29,960
Senator.

469
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,660
Thank you.

470
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,940
Okay, other questions or comments under the amendment, yes ma'am in the back,

471
00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:43,820
come on down.

472
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,120
Just like a game show.

473
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,360
So I have to say my name.

474
00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:52,920
Name?

475
00:39:53,180 --> 00:39:54,060
Julie Palin.

476
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Thank you.

477
00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:57,760
My question is under the highway department.

478
00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:04,440
I'm wondering how many full-time positions are funded under the full-time payroll budget.

479
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:11,620
And in the report, the Highway Department report, it talks about two employees and then

480
00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:12,080
the four minutes.

481
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,960
That's three people.

482
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,320
Is that the full, is there four funded positions?

483
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,540
That's what I wanted to know.

484
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,820
Because we used to have four people on the Highway Department.

485
00:40:22,940 --> 00:40:23,720
Thank you.

486
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:29,630
I'm sorry.

487
00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:35,910
I didn't quite hear all the questions, but did it have to do with the Highway Department?

488
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:44,150
Okay, we're going to save that for Article 5, because that's the article that deals with the highway department.

489
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:47,430
Okay, that's okay, no worries.

490
00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:59,790
I mean, there is a line item in Article 4 dealing with the capital projects fund, but my sense is your question went more towards the highway department in general.

491
00:40:59,790 --> 00:41:03,790
Well, so if you can come, we'll come back to that when we get the article five.

492
00:41:04,570 --> 00:41:10,190
So article four of the amendment, any further questions or comments?

493
00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:11,850
Yes, sir.

494
00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:16,410
Again, the Rudd Wallace.

495
00:41:17,110 --> 00:41:23,230
So my previous question was based on item two on the FAQ that was passed out.

496
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:30,290
Now looking at item one, just looking to get an explanation for the floor.

497
00:41:31,450 --> 00:41:38,770
NEMRIC recommended, based on this, that we basically reduced the deficit by tapping into

498
00:41:38,770 --> 00:41:44,310
the projected deficit by tapping into the tax stabilization fund for $30,000, it looks

499
00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:47,670
like another cash reserve for $10,500.

500
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:56,470
Can the board just explain why NEMRIC made these specific explanations, especially for the tax

501
00:41:56,470 --> 00:42:03,650
stabilization fund which are they thinking that this is a particularly good year to tap into that or so

502
00:42:04,930 --> 00:42:13,520
So important yeah, I can't speak for them, but my sense is yes, that is a good and in particularly because we're trying to

503
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,180
Correct, but move to better practices about delinquent tax revenue

504
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:19,960
So that's a big change

505
00:42:20,860 --> 00:42:28,620
It's a big change, so that's like a lot of revenue that we would have predicted to receive that we're not receiving if you all agreed to vote for that.

506
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:31,340
So, I mean, these funds could appropriately be used.

507
00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:39,140
I mean, tax stabilization, you know, that's exactly germane to try to keep the rate as low as possible, which I imagine is all of our goal.

508
00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:47,020
So, that is what they're recommending to try to minimize the tax impact, or that's what we're recommending, I should be more clear.

509
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:49,960
And that isn't a proper use of those funds.

510
00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:53,980
Okay, other questions or comments under the amendment?

511
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,660
Ready for the vote?

512
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Okay.

513
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,760
We're voting on the amendment only.

514
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,880
Article four, amendment.

515
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Show the voter's authorized general fund expenditures for operative expenses.

516
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:21,420
up, A, General Fund deficit, 74,623 dollars and 64 cents, B, salaries and general expenses,

517
00:43:22,380 --> 00:43:32,740
631,122 dollars and 25 cents, C, month-involunteer, fire department, $197,600, D, Russell

518
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:41,460
Memorial Library, $41,979 dollars, E, month-in Museum and Historical Society, $1500,

519
00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:50,160
F, wreck fund, $10,500, G, agricultural, and natural areas fund, $30,000,

520
00:43:50,620 --> 00:44:00,000
H, high-week capital projects fund, $20,000, for a total of $1,000,000, $324,89,

521
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,660
of which $867,531,21, 21 cents.

522
00:44:05,660 --> 00:44:14,960
She'll be raised by taxes and 139,793 dollars and 68 cents by non-to-exrevenous.

523
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:20,160
All those in favor of the amendment signified by saying aye.

524
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,880
Aye.

525
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:24,580
All those opposed signified by saying no.

526
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:24,940
No.

527
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,760
The aye's agreed to have it.

528
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,960
The aye's do have it.

529
00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:30,660
The amendment carries.

530
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:41,520
Okay, we're back to article four, has amended any further discussions or questions or comments under article four?

531
00:44:44,130 --> 00:44:44,950
But don't need to.

532
00:44:44,990 --> 00:44:45,930
I don't see any hands.

533
00:44:46,170 --> 00:44:47,190
Thank you, though.

534
00:44:47,770 --> 00:44:48,070
Yes, sir.

535
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:48,530
Go ahead.

536
00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:50,010
Come on up.

537
00:44:58,820 --> 00:44:59,160
Stay tuned.

538
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,940
Good. So, I've been to every slight board meeting since tell meeting last year, regular meetings, and I've been trying to get an explanation of where these monies from D on this list and article 4 down are, where the actual monies are, not on the computer, not on a paper like this.

539
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,840
but actually where the money is.

540
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:40,060
And the reason I question that is because we keep hearing

541
00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:43,260
in the slight board meetings in different places

542
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:45,940
that we're going to move this there and not there.

543
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,860
But I'd like to know where that actual cash is,

544
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,880
what bank account it's in.

545
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Because the treasurer who's now left

546
00:45:56,260 --> 00:46:02,680
And told me and Stan Wilbur, the town minister, when we asked him about it, that there was only one account.

547
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:11,600
Checking account attached to a savings account, plus another little account that held some money regarding the,

548
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,380
some of that, the health insurance for employees.

549
00:46:15,620 --> 00:46:22,200
So we know that the town ran out of money last spring, right after town meeting, got down to just a few thousand dollars,

550
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:30,820
And they had to borrow to keep operating until tax revenue started coming in.

551
00:46:31,180 --> 00:46:38,540
But if you look in the town of Quarant, age 39, there's some pretty significant amounts listed

552
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:45,660
there under some of these same names there, 500 and something thousand on that age.

553
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:52,640
And I'd like to know where that money, what account it's in, because it obviously wasn't in the

554
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,240
check in account because it's a town ran out of money.

555
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:58,390
Okay, so like,

556
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,020
thanks, Tom.

557
00:47:05,340 --> 00:47:08,160
And we appreciate, thank you for coming to every meeting.

558
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,580
It's really, a public input is really important for us, so we appreciate it.

559
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,740
Just a word on terminology, just want to be really clear, fun is different than account.

560
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:32,140
So, in account, I think we all know what a bank account is, but in NEMRIC, which is the accounting software that we have, we have these different funds and we have a general ledger, we're all these different monies are allocated and clearly explained.

561
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,040
So in our water, I know Randy you're here, and if you want to speak, feel free, ready to

562
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,120
run around three town auditors, and looks at our statements.

563
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,280
Just about the tax anticipation note that you're referring to about, you know, the town running

564
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:49,820
out of money.

565
00:47:50,260 --> 00:47:55,080
As I mentioned earlier, Monkton's part of about a third of towns that doesn't run on the

566
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,640
state this year, which, you know, it's not like it's a wrong thing.

567
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,320
What it does is it creates a bit of a challenge for, like, for cashflow really.

568
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:12,940
So, last year, the town did have to take out a tax anticipation note, which is, you know, a regular practice, we have good credit with the bank.

569
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:17,140
And that's really until our taxes come in in November and December.

570
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:22,000
So, we pay a little bit of interest on that, but it's not significant.

571
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:26,720
And as I just want to also flag, thanks for bringing this up, actually.

572
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,120
This is one of my pet topics.

573
00:48:29,060 --> 00:48:32,740
You'll see a note in our town report that we have talked about.

574
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:34,420
And we've not, there's no decision that's been made,

575
00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:37,580
but we are thinking about recommending

576
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:41,300
to the voters considering changing to the state fiscal year.

577
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,540
Again, we have not decided on that yet.

578
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,960
We would love a bunch of public input to the extent

579
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,820
that you're willing, so that is something

580
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:51,420
we might be considering a future years.

581
00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:54,300
And that would get at the tax-intentioned piece.

582
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:58,720
there's complications to doing that, which I can get into if you want to nerd out with me

583
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:05,420
technical accounting stuff, which I imagine many of you do not, but yeah, hopefully that helps

584
00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:10,580
an happy to answer any follow-up questions you have. Okay, any other questions or comments

585
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:14,360
under article four? Yes, ma'am, in the back.

586
00:49:26,290 --> 00:49:26,970
Good morning, everybody.

587
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:30,850
Good morning.

588
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:36,550
Yeah, I feel like put it like almost to my face. Yeah. Good morning. I just want to introduce

589
00:49:36,550 --> 00:49:40,570
myself, it's Christian Bjornberg-Farrow. I'm President of the Mountain Museum in the Historical

590
00:49:40,570 --> 00:49:46,690
Society and I'm happy to tell you we have a museum. So I'm thankful for your support of us

591
00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:52,070
over the years that we've created what we dreamed about back in 1976 when we were incorporated.

592
00:49:52,530 --> 00:50:00,590
We have new bylaws or bylaws or on a website and we have a lot of things going on, cemetery cleanups,

593
00:50:00,590 --> 00:50:05,530
19 events, Facebook followers of 151, so we're on Facebook too.

594
00:50:05,810 --> 00:50:10,830
I just wanted to just let you know, we are taking all of your kind support of our historical

595
00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:13,090
society and we are putting it to really good use.

596
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:18,830
We'd love to see you at our meetings, Mondays, but I wanted to just say hello, thank you.

597
00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:22,770
Okay, Mr. Pilcher, did you have something?

598
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:25,230
No? Okay.

599
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:29,810
Anyone else and then I'll come back to you, sir.

600
00:50:29,810 --> 00:50:34,370
anyone else have questions or comments under order before? Okay.

601
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:43,640
So Sam's

602
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:56,180
explanation of that, the difference between Fungs and these numbers on page 39. I believe

603
00:50:56,180 --> 00:51:04,680
our taxes that were raised and put into a fund for that particular purpose for each one of those.

604
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,120
blow D in by wrong there.

605
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:10,480
Select board.

606
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:13,740
Let me just make sure I understand your question.

607
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:18,820
So you're saying, you're asking if the money that was raised was put in the accounts.

608
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:20,900
The Russell Memorial Library.

609
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,080
You're asking if they are put in the first quarter of a thousand.

610
00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:24,320
Are we going to get that from taxes?

611
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:24,940
Yes.

612
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:26,020
Then where's it going to go?

613
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,040
To the library.

614
00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:28,940
Where's it going to go?

615
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:31,140
What account is it going to go into?

616
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:33,960
It'll go into the, there's a library line.

617
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,400
OK, but there's there's not a library account.

618
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:40,600
It's going to go into the general font.

619
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,260
Randy, Randy's raising his hand.

620
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:43,540
But go to moderator.

621
00:51:44,780 --> 00:51:45,100
OK.

622
00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:46,580
All right.

623
00:51:50,660 --> 00:51:51,180
Yeah.

624
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,900
Do you have a question?

625
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Yeah, yeah.

626
00:51:54,260 --> 00:51:54,720
No one.

627
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,780
Oh, I'm going to try and explain it to the best.

628
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,640
OK, good.

629
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,440
OK, the money is all.

630
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,360
My name's Randy Schravernell.

631
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,720
I am an auditor, but I'm sort of here

632
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:10,740
my own not representing the auditor, so take it as you will.

633
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,960
Oh my god, I'm sorry.

634
00:52:14,940 --> 00:52:19,260
Okay, everything gets thrown into one account, the bank account.

635
00:52:19,820 --> 00:52:23,180
I have at the end of the year December 31.

636
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:29,820
We had 1.1547-3146.

637
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:57,020
1,154,731.46. Now, if you take that money and you subtract out was a page 39, we

638
00:52:59,420 --> 00:52:59,800
have that

639
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:07,480
And, again, I'm not in the accountant, but I believe we have the money to cover those

640
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,120
funds, if that's what you're looking for.

641
00:53:11,180 --> 00:53:11,540
Okay.

642
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,520
Well, your happiness is not the issue.

643
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,800
The issue is, can we answer your question?

644
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,880
Being gone, if it is, is important.

645
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,500
Well, what's your question?

646
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:44,300
Okay, so the money on listed on page 39 is money that was at one point raised by taxes in some year in the past.

647
00:53:56,270 --> 00:53:57,570
Recreation fund.

648
00:54:01,170 --> 00:54:02,830
Agriculture on natural areas fund.

649
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,160
So there's $200,000 in there listed on page 39.

650
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:15,040
You're adding $30,000 in tax revenue to that.

651
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:20,160
are you keeping it in a separate account, or is it going into the general fund?

652
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:27,060
And if we ran out of money last spring, if those money are not in a separate account,

653
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:34,020
because the treasure told Stan and I that there was only one account, if we ran out

654
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:39,980
of money, the money that claimed to be in the natural resources fund was gone.

655
00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:43,180
Select board.

656
00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:44,980
I'll go ahead.

657
00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:48,400
I'll call you if you want.

658
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:55,510
So, no longer on the select board.

659
00:54:55,710 --> 00:54:57,150
I spent 13 years there.

660
00:54:57,230 --> 00:54:58,290
I'd like to explain.

661
00:54:58,970 --> 00:55:01,190
As has been explained on numerous occasions,

662
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:04,350
when this question was asked in select board meetings by Mr.

663
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:05,450
Stedman and others.

664
00:55:06,590 --> 00:55:08,770
There's a difference between accounts and funds.

665
00:55:09,830 --> 00:55:12,270
We could have chosen to set up a separate account

666
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:18,890
and put the Anac money in a totally separate bank account and kept it there until it was needed.

667
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:27,950
Because we're on, we start our fiscal year on January 1, but we don't collect taxes until November,

668
00:55:29,830 --> 00:55:35,710
we're faced with having a bunch of expenses before we have the money to pay for them.

669
00:55:35,710 --> 00:55:42,830
So rather than put these separate funds in a separate account and then having to take out an even larger tax

670
00:55:42,830 --> 00:55:50,710
anticipation note and pay interest on that, we use those funds to reduce the amount of the need for

671
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:56,270
a tax anticipation note and the amount if it is if we do end up getting one.

672
00:55:57,050 --> 00:56:00,030
When the taxes come in, we have enough to cover that.

673
00:56:00,030 --> 00:56:07,130
To my knowledge, we have never reneged on an act needing a project, money for a project

674
00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:09,770
when the request comes to do, we do it.

675
00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:14,110
If it comes to do before taxes are collected, that might affect how much tax anticipation

676
00:56:14,110 --> 00:56:14,670
note.

677
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:19,850
But the question has been asked and explained at Nazium,

678
00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:25,540
and the implications that get made repeatedly

679
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:27,940
that there's some malfeasance going on gets old.

680
00:56:27,940 --> 00:56:34,660
bit my tongue for 13 years and tried to explain it calmly. I'm not calm now. I'm sick of

681
00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:41,160
the accusations that the full moon after every every town meeting the select board gets together

682
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,660
and drinks at a pint of goats blood and swars and oaths Satan and figures out how to screw

683
00:56:45,660 --> 00:56:50,800
everybody out of money. That's not what's happening. It's been explained if you don't understand it

684
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,780
I can't help you with that.

685
00:56:55,100 --> 00:57:01,380
Okay. Other questions or comments under Article 4? Yes, ma'am.

686
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,160
I don't know if this will help clarify.

687
00:57:15,220 --> 00:57:18,140
I do work in a fiscal office for an on-profit.

688
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:24,840
But I think it sounds as though there is one bank account for all town expenses.

689
00:57:25,940 --> 00:57:28,520
All revenues go into that same bank account.

690
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:35,420
And the bank account balance is never going to be the entire revenue because you're paying expenses at the same time.

691
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:38,440
Just like, we get our paychecks and we pay our bills.

692
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:44,100
So, different bills are due at different times.

693
00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:48,400
So, we'll get the revenue and pay the bills when they're due.

694
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:57,300
So, these different funds might become due for whatever expenses they have at different times during the year compared to when the revenues are received.

695
00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:06,540
So, it's not that some funds are taking away from others, they just do it a different time.

696
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,480
So, I don't know if that helps clarify the question at hands,

697
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,660
but comparing it to your own personal finances where you get your paycheck and pay your bills.

698
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:20,480
You don't get your entire salary for the year in one lump sum at the beginning of the year

699
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,340
and you don't get your expenses for all of your groceries in one lump sum.

700
00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:27,800
The same is true of the town budget.

701
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,580
Okay.

702
00:58:29,860 --> 00:58:31,160
Kim Barber.

703
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Other questions or comments under Article 4?

704
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,360
Are you ready for the vote?

705
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:39,720
Was that a waiver?

706
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,320
I'm sorry?

707
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:43,400
Yeah.

708
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:43,980
Okay.

709
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:45,100
Article 4.

710
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,340
Shall the voters authorize general fund expenditures?

711
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,060
Article 4 is amended.

712
00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:55,080
Shall the voters authorize general fund expenditures for operating expenses?

713
00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:03,440
up, a General Fund deficit, 74,623 dollars and 64 cents, B salaries and General expenses,

714
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:14,120
631,122,25 cents, C, month in volunteer fire department, 197,600 dollars, D, Russell

715
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:21,980
Memorial Library, 41,979 dollars, E, month in Museum in the Historical Society, $1,500,

716
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:25,060
F, REC Fund, $10,500.

717
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:29,900
G, agriculture, and natural areas fund $30,000.

718
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:38,620
H, highway capital projects fund $20,000 for a total of $1,7,324.89.

719
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,080
Of which $867,531.21.

720
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:51,220
She'll be raised by taxes, and $139,793.68.

721
00:59:51,220 --> 00:59:58,420
by non-tax revenues. All those in favor of Article 4 is amended, signify by saying aye.

722
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,120
Aye.

723
00:59:59,540 --> 00:59:59,980
All those.

724
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Opposed, signify by saying no. The eyes do have it. Article 4 carries. Article 5, shall the voters

725
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,000
authorates, highway fund expenditures,

726
01:00:19,220 --> 01:00:29,300
or operating expenses of A, highway fund surplus, $272,900, $97,000,

727
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:50,500
B, highway expenses, 1,653,434,661 cents, for a total of 1,380,533,64 cents of which $989,33,64 cents

728
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:58,200
raised by taxes, and $391,500 by non-tax revenue. Can I have a motion?

729
01:00:59,260 --> 01:00:59,780
So, both.

730
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,240
A name?

731
01:01:01,660 --> 01:01:01,980
General.

732
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,220
Okay, thank you. Is there a second?

733
01:01:06,270 --> 01:01:13,830
Thank you. Article 5 has been moved in second. I understand the select board has an amendment.

734
01:01:14,090 --> 01:01:16,910
They'd like to propose for Article 5.

735
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:36,000
Yeah, so, as I talked about with NEMREC, there was a, I would say, very minor change, it's a little over $4,000 that we're recommending and changing the exchange.

736
01:01:36,140 --> 01:01:39,820
So, $4,253 or $22,000.

737
01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:45,000
And the reason for that is, so, as I, I don't want to bore everybody talking about NEMREC more, but,

738
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:50,700
so our accounting system, when we develop our budget, we're taking numbers off of that, putting it into spreadsheet.

739
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:55,440
There was a minor difference that they found when they were going through our books

740
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,420
So we just want to again make sure that you all have the most accurate numbers and that's what they're recommending

741
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:03,020
So that's what the amendment is. It's a very minor change

742
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:08,540
But we want to make sure that you guys are not paying anymore or any less than you need to. Thanks.

743
01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:14,180
Okay, so select board is proposing an amendment article five. Let me read it

744
01:02:14,180 --> 01:02:23,600
This is on the handout, show the voters authorized highway fund expenditures for operating expenses of A, highway fund surplus.

745
01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:31,580
268,647,000 dollars and 5 cents, B highway expenses.

746
01:02:31,580 --> 01:02:45,580
1,653,434 dollars and 61 cents for a total of 1,384,787 dollars and 56 cents, of which

747
01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:56,640
993,287 dollars and 56 cents, she'll be raised by taxes and 391,500 dollars by non-tax revenue.

748
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,200
Can I have a motion on the amendment?

749
01:02:59,780 --> 01:03:00,940
Yes, sir.

750
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:01,320
Okay.

751
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:02,740
And is there a second?

752
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,460
It's been second.

753
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,500
It's been second.

754
01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:06,980
Okay.

755
01:03:07,020 --> 01:03:08,860
The amendment has been moved in second.

756
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,260
Are there any questions or comments on the amendment?

757
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,320
I can answer the.

758
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:17,820
What was the question?

759
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:18,340
Good.

760
01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:19,120
Yeah.

761
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,520
Ma'am, you had a question.

762
01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:24,900
If you want to say I'm the ill answer your question.

763
01:03:25,740 --> 01:03:26,260
Yeah.

764
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,220
I'll just say we have board crew members now, so, yes, thank you.

765
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,700
Yep, and our boardman is here, too.

766
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,060
Thank you.

767
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,480
Yes, sir, Mr. Piltr.

768
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:48,000
Yes, I have a question on page 55 of the town report.

769
01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:55,320
Under hot mix, you guys have pledged it a sum of 621,000 dollars.

770
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,900
I'm going to ask for some reason.

771
01:04:00,340 --> 01:04:00,580
I'm there.

772
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,840
Thank you.

773
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:13,430
Yeah, got it.

774
01:04:13,630 --> 01:04:14,690
Got it right up there.

775
01:04:14,890 --> 01:04:15,210
Got it?

776
01:04:15,730 --> 01:04:15,930
Okay.

777
01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:22,310
Last year, 2025, we budgeted $125,000.

778
01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:23,670
They didn't work.

779
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:25,110
We're on the humics line.

780
01:04:25,410 --> 01:04:30,290
But only ended up through scheduling a weather getting to $48,292.

781
01:04:30,770 --> 01:04:31,270
Of that.

782
01:04:31,890 --> 01:04:37,090
So there's a substantial remainder that left $376,000.

783
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:42,730
of work that we still need to do, you're all aware of the condition of the pay froze, the

784
01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:47,090
deteriorating, we need to keep up with it. So that's going to carry forward. We want to do

785
01:04:47,090 --> 01:04:52,590
that work. We don't want to just put a pause on it and skip it here essentially. And then the

786
01:04:52,590 --> 01:05:01,670
reason the number is bigger is we also have this year's work we want to do. So that is roughly

787
01:05:03,070 --> 01:05:09,690
$244,000 worth of paid-in-word for this year, and together, that's their 621.

788
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:14,840
Okay.

789
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,960
Other questions?

790
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:22,680
I should probably, I heard of a mobile, so the surplus is, if you look at the bottom line

791
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,440
on page 55, the surplus is in there.

792
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:33,900
So it's a big number on the expense line, but it's not actually 621,000 being act for

793
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,100
of this year's taxes, there's the leftover

794
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:37,680
has come back into health care.

795
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,280
So it's only 244 from this year.

796
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:48,960
Okay, other questions or comments under the amendment

797
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,500
to article five?

798
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,980
I'm looking for anyone else to even then I'll come back to you.

799
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,320
Okay, go ahead, Steve.

800
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,700
Given that explanation and given the fact

801
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:12,640
that we have another article, article 7 coming up regarding Pinywood's road.

802
01:06:13,620 --> 01:06:18,880
I'd like to give some headroom for the expenses that we're going to be asked for for

803
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:26,440
Pinywood's road and would like to introduce an amendment at this time, a two article

804
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:33,000
So far, I'd like to amend this budget of $621,000.

805
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:40,660
I would like to lower it by some $70,000 to give us to basically cover what we will need

806
01:06:40,660 --> 01:06:43,580
when we discuss Article 7.

807
01:06:43,860 --> 01:06:51,380
So that's an amendment to move that line item from $621,000.

808
01:06:51,740 --> 01:06:54,340
I believe to $551,000.

809
01:06:55,180 --> 01:06:57,780
I would look for a second.

810
01:06:57,780 --> 01:06:58,120
Okay.

811
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,280
This is a secondary amendment.

812
01:07:02,060 --> 01:07:06,080
You can only ever have two on the floor at any one time.

813
01:07:06,740 --> 01:07:11,100
Otherwise, General Robert's blows his mind.

814
01:07:12,020 --> 01:07:14,080
Robert's rules only allow us two at a time.

815
01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:15,820
So this is a secondary amendment.

816
01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:17,500
Is there a second?

817
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,380
There is a second.

818
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:20,360
Your name?

819
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:24,870
Okay.

820
01:07:25,130 --> 01:07:25,750
Thank you.

821
01:07:26,050 --> 01:07:26,330
All right.

822
01:07:26,330 --> 01:07:29,970
So, now discussion is limited to...

823
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:43,260
The secondary amendment. The request to reduce the line item by 60,000? Was that 70,000? I'm sorry, 70,000.

824
01:07:43,900 --> 01:07:49,300
Okay. Questions or comments? Only under the secondary amendment. Yes, sir.

825
01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:59,060
So I think the amendment that Steve just proposed is basically comes down to micromanaging the select board.

826
01:07:59,060 --> 01:08:06,720
department because what we vote on is not line-on by line-on and we vote on the bottom line.

827
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:15,320
So basically this budget is only a recommendation and the town is in no obligation at this

828
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:22,160
point in time to spend out the money is outlined. We're just voting on the bottom line and if the

829
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:28,260
bottom line is approved, then the town can move it around as they see fit, as necessary going forward.

830
01:08:28,260 --> 01:08:39,120
And so we can basically have this discussion underneath the money with road discussion and not have to lock something in now for the display board to just hide our hands.

831
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:58,240
Well, let me ask Mr. Filcher for a point of clarification with your reduction of the line item of $70,000 did you intend for that to reduce the overall amount by $70,000?

832
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:09,880
Yes, the idea was that if the $70,000 would come off of an article five that total of

833
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:15,300
1,381,384 dollars and said 787.

834
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:16,680
Right.

835
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,600
So one, three, ten, five, 33, 64.

836
01:09:21,980 --> 01:09:27,300
That's one, one, three, and one, four, seven, eighty, seven, and we're going to point five

837
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:34,740
Yeah, 70,000 less than one, three, eight would be one, three, ten.

838
01:09:36,610 --> 01:09:37,510
I'll go with it.

839
01:09:38,650 --> 01:09:40,470
I mean, that's not going to ask what's happening.

840
01:09:41,410 --> 01:09:41,670
Okay.

841
01:09:42,270 --> 01:09:42,370
All right.

842
01:09:43,130 --> 01:09:46,170
So I just wanted to be clear what we're talking about here.

843
01:09:46,190 --> 01:09:49,850
He's not just talking about moving things around.

844
01:09:49,850 --> 01:09:55,950
He's talking about chopping 70,000 off of Article 5.

845
01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:04,310
And that's been second. Any further discussion or comments? Yes. Go ahead and then I'll move.

846
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:08,690
Yeah. Remember we're only talking about the secondary amendment.

847
01:10:09,150 --> 01:10:13,830
So I guess my question is if probably question for the select board.

848
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:16,950
I could agree with the second.

849
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:21,730
their amendment, if that 70,000 for Piny Woods Road,

850
01:10:22,350 --> 01:10:25,990
is already in the other article, the rest of the article.

851
01:10:28,130 --> 01:10:32,850
But if it's a question of, we're going to cut out $70,000

852
01:10:32,850 --> 01:10:35,670
of other work in order to cover Piny Woods Road.

853
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:38,630
I'm a little concerned, because we've got two years worth

854
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:41,110
of the paving that needs to be done.

855
01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:44,130
What didn't get done to last year and what's coming up this year.

856
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:46,770
So I'd like some clarification on, if there was a matter

857
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:52,370
it's being double counted, sure. If it's not being double counted, I don't support cutting

858
01:10:52,370 --> 01:10:58,650
out the, the, the, the paving that is then posted. So I would have any, uh, comments.

859
01:11:01,180 --> 01:11:01,300
And

860
01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:04,080
then I'll catch everyone else's questions or comments.

861
01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:08,130
Thank you, John. Um, I just want

862
01:11:08,130 --> 01:11:10,330
to clarify it. No, it's not being double counted.

863
01:11:12,940 --> 01:11:15,400
Okay. Uh, yes, sir. And then there were some

864
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,880
other hands, I'll get you all next.

865
01:11:20,710 --> 01:11:27,850
So, purple, so Robinson, I would generally appreciate the idea of what I think Stephen was

866
01:11:27,850 --> 01:11:33,590
asking for in his amendment, but I think finding words throughout definitely needs to be fixed

867
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:39,150
if it's a separate question for Article 7, but I don't agree with actually chopping off 70,000

868
01:11:39,150 --> 01:11:43,070
from repaving more in order to accomplish that specific task.

869
01:11:43,070 --> 01:11:49,310
The reason why is we have to take patients on an ambulance through a monkden quite a bit to get them to a hospital.

870
01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:57,430
And if you have a back pain or some other kind of traumatic injury going down a really really bumpy solar street right now is really not a great idea.

871
01:11:58,090 --> 01:12:02,830
So we often end up actually opting to take 1-16 instead because it's a much better road.

872
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:07,250
We really do need to actually do the work to refave the roads in a monkden.

873
01:12:07,890 --> 01:12:09,970
Other questions or comments in this section?

874
01:12:10,350 --> 01:12:11,530
We're talking about the amendments.

875
01:12:11,530 --> 01:12:12,650
this section.

876
01:12:15,180 --> 01:12:19,220
Yes, sir. No, it'd be. I know you. Yeah.

877
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,960
There were two. Yes, sir. The one

878
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,420
standing.

879
01:12:28,020 --> 01:12:32,340
Can you just tell the residents is there a plan of which roads are going to be

880
01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:34,700
paved? So we know. Yes.

881
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:47,200
Sam, you're getting the work out. So if this is going on, we're going

882
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:53,680
to do a section of Silver Street by the county line. Okay, we're going to also do a portion

883
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,700
of Tyler Bridge Road.

884
01:12:56,460 --> 01:13:00,260
He also, there's also a file mile of paving on hardscrable road

885
01:13:00,260 --> 01:13:03,200
that we're looking to do along the Monkton Road

886
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,360
over by Parker Lane.

887
01:13:05,660 --> 01:13:07,860
And that area is like two miles over there.

888
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,780
Basically, I'm going to reiterate my point, which is,

889
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:21,840
let's say, Article 7 gets voted down.

890
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:24,620
All right, we give, under this amendment,

891
01:13:25,340 --> 01:13:27,780
we just cut out 70,000 out of the highway funds.

892
01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:33,420
And if Article 7 gets voted down, there's no place to move those 70,000.

893
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:42,180
Again, let's discuss Article 7 and leave it up to the select board, the highway department, the side where the funds come from.

894
01:13:43,180 --> 01:13:43,280
Okay.

895
01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:45,040
Any other questions or comments?

896
01:13:45,460 --> 01:13:46,880
Under the secondary amendment.

897
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,560
You ready for the vote?

898
01:13:48,820 --> 01:13:49,240
Oops.

899
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:50,300
There is a question.

900
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,200
Come on up.

901
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:00,820
Just a question for the highway department, John.

902
01:14:00,820 --> 01:14:05,520
said that we were behind schedule from last year so maybe you can give us an idea

903
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,880
worst-case scenario, best-case scenarios, how much of that missed work we make up

904
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,620
this year and how far into this year's planning we get, just so we have an idea.

905
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:19,140
We're getting a little field of the secondary amendment, but go ahead.

906
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:23,500
All right, so last year, all we were able to pay is you could do this in

907
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:27,180
scheduling your own issues with a monthly regio or a right in front of the account hall.

908
01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:33,420
last year, we're supposed to do that section by Parker Lain, over Smonti Road. So hopefully

909
01:14:33,420 --> 01:14:40,340
we can get on the agenda this year to get that done. So that the Monti Road is supposed

910
01:14:40,340 --> 01:14:41,260
to be done last year.

911
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:54,000
Okay. You ready for the vote on the secondary amendment? Okay. Let me read it.

912
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:56,700
Show the

913
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,740
Butter's authorized, highway-funded expenditures.

914
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:12,160
So, for operating expenses of highway fund surplus $272,900 dollars in 97 cents, highway expenses.

915
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:14,960
A million,

916
01:15:17,860 --> 01:15:29,840
573,434 dollars in 61 cents for a total of 1,310,533 dollars in 64 cents.

917
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:39,660
of which $989,000, $39,000 and $64,000 will be raised by taxes and $391,500 by non-tox revenue.

918
01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:43,580
Could I ask a question?

919
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:44,640
You're the expert.

920
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,640
Should we be voting on the amendment first?

921
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:48,900
That's what we're doing.

922
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,000
Well, Robert's rules.

923
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,000
They're funny.

924
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:04,800
So basically, you can't just vote on hack and 70,000 out and, you know,

925
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,780
like that. You got to put the numbers in the context. So, I put the numbers in the context.

926
01:16:11,300 --> 01:16:18,060
We're voting on Mr. Pilcher's secondary amendment of reducing the line item of $70,000,

927
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:24,740
which has the net effect of reducing Article 5 by $70,000,

928
01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:32,760
thus $1,310,000 instead of 1,380,000. Everybody understand what we're voting on.

929
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,880
We're just putting on the secondary amendment.

930
01:16:35,340 --> 01:16:38,200
Then we're going to go back to the select boards amendment,

931
01:16:38,860 --> 01:16:41,080
which is to fix the squid news error,

932
01:16:41,700 --> 01:16:44,160
and then we're going to go back to Article 5 eventually.

933
01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:46,360
Okay, secondary amendment.

934
01:16:46,460 --> 01:16:50,060
All those in favor of Mr. Pilchure's secondary amendment,

935
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:52,460
signify by saying aye.

936
01:16:54,670 --> 01:16:58,650
All those, Steve, you're not even going to vote for your amendment?

937
01:16:59,050 --> 01:16:59,350
Jesus.

938
01:17:04,140 --> 01:17:06,280
Okay, I'm not recognizing you again.

939
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:18,140
All those opposed signified by saying no, that's fairly resounding, the secondary amendment fails.

940
01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:21,380
All right, back to the primary amendment.

941
01:17:22,660 --> 01:17:28,340
If there is any further discussion about the primary amendment, which is the handout article five,

942
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,360
proposed by the select board.

943
01:17:33,340 --> 01:17:34,300
You ready for the vote?

944
01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:38,500
Out of the five, as amended.

945
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,440
Shall the voters also rise high

946
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:42,720
with fund expenditures for operating expenses

947
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:47,820
of highway fund surplus 268,647,

948
01:17:48,780 --> 01:17:50,740
and five cents, highway expenses.

949
01:17:51,480 --> 01:18:00,440
1,653,434, or 61 cents for a total of 1,384,077,

950
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:15,260
$387.56 of which 993,287,588 cents shall be raised by taxes, and $391,500 by non-tox ribbons.

951
01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:24,400
All those in favor of the amendment signify by saying aye, all those opposed signify by saying

952
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:30,600
Now, the eyes appeared to have it, the eyes didn't have it, the amendment carries.

953
01:18:31,780 --> 01:18:37,300
Okay, now we're back to Article 5, has amended any further questions or comments under Article

954
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:37,900
5?

955
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,460
Yes.

956
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,240
On page 54, onto the proposed budget.

957
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:55,040
So the members who are voting on, or we'll be voting on, are predicated on kind of a confidence

958
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,920
in the budget presented to us.

959
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:04,900
And at the top of the revenues, the proposed revenue numbers are a lot higher than historic

960
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:10,720
actual revenue numbers, and so can you can the sled board or someone else give us some

961
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:16,480
confidence in these large increases in revenues, one specifically referencing our highway

962
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:24,220
state aid, actual for this past year was 85,000, proposed is 166,000, so that's a twice

963
01:19:24,220 --> 01:19:32,560
increased highway grants actual was 74,000 proposed is 224,000 so that's almost a three times

964
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:38,480
increase so just give us some confidence in those increases. Yeah, no great question. Egalai, that's

965
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:46,260
good. So with all the flooding the state actually allocated grants in a different order because of

966
01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:52,180
the disasters so we actually got less money because it was how can I explain this in more clear

967
01:19:52,180 --> 01:19:59,120
Anyway, what we had those disasters, the state changed how quickly the state, like the different towns, got money.

968
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,320
So we are actually budgeting more like what we actually typically expect to get.

969
01:20:04,620 --> 01:20:09,100
Last year was actually a little bit lower than we would have expected because we got a little bit more the year before.

970
01:20:09,740 --> 01:20:11,660
So it's basically kind of like coming back to an equilibrium.

971
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,100
Who knows if we'll have more disasters?

972
01:20:14,980 --> 01:20:18,400
But that explains the grant revenue piece of it.

973
01:20:19,540 --> 01:20:25,520
But can you restate, Roger, sorry, the other question that you had, just so, and I have it up here.

974
01:20:25,700 --> 01:20:26,080
Do you mind?

975
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,480
I want to make sure I'm answering it.

976
01:20:29,940 --> 01:20:30,940
We ready to do it, do we?

977
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:32,520
No.

978
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,020
So again, yeah, exactly.

979
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,040
Not for me, sure.

980
01:20:37,500 --> 01:20:38,260
The top two lines.

981
01:20:38,620 --> 01:20:39,420
Highway State aid.

982
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,500
So it's 166 budgeted versus 85 actual.

983
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:48,380
and then how he grants 224 budgeted versus 74.

984
01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:49,360
Gratial.

985
01:20:49,780 --> 01:20:52,460
Yep, and thanks, I would ask you to clarify again and move around.

986
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,120
So the way the Paving Grant works is you get a chunk of money after the Paving is done,

987
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,200
but since the Paving was not done last year, that explains that.

988
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,800
And again, that was a timing and kind of communication issue.

989
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,800
So we're hopeful, hopefully we're correcting that this year.

990
01:21:08,660 --> 01:21:09,160
Thank you.

991
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,320
Okay, any other questions or comments under our rule five?

992
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:18,880
you ready for the vote? Okay article five is amended. Show the voters authorized.

993
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:26,840
High will fund expenditures for operating expenses up. A, high will fund surplus, $268,647,

994
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:43,300
and five cents. B, high will expenses, $1,653,434,617, for a total of $1,384,787,56, of which $999,99,

995
01:21:43,300 --> 01:21:53,400
$3,287.56 should be raised by taxes and $391,500 by non-tax revenues.

996
01:21:55,180 --> 01:22:00,220
All those in favor of Article 5 is amended, signify by saying aye.

997
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:03,720
All those opposed signify by saying no.

998
01:22:04,540 --> 01:22:05,940
The eyes appear to have it.

999
01:22:05,940 --> 01:22:07,040
The eyes do have it.

1000
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,600
Article 5 carries.

1001
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:16,220
Before we move on to Article 6, we have a distinguished member of the State Legislature

1002
01:22:16,220 --> 01:22:20,180
Mr. Harib Olsen, who would like to address the body for five minutes.

1003
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,140
I'm here in one of your representatives, along with Karen Leaders.

1004
01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:40,540
And I was just in charge for this. This is a day that I get to spread myself a little

1005
01:22:40,540 --> 01:22:46,360
thing. But having to be here, I wanted to give you a little update on what's going on in my

1006
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:53,120
earlier. Last going on, I think the stuff that I think you folks might be really interested in,

1007
01:22:53,220 --> 01:22:59,560
or at least one of the things, is some of the education things. And what's on the table now,

1008
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,280
is that a bunch of committees are trying to draw maps.

1009
01:23:04,340 --> 01:23:06,640
And in the process of drawing maps,

1010
01:23:08,020 --> 01:23:10,240
they're intending, we'll see what happens.

1011
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,000
But they're intending to consolidate

1012
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,200
the existing school districts into much larger districts.

1013
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,580
And that could take two forms, either.

1014
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,880
So we're in a supervisory district now.

1015
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,460
So we got a school board in this responsible for all the schools

1016
01:23:28,460 --> 01:23:30,500
in Manning University.

1017
01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:34,580
If you had a larger supervisory district, say,

1018
01:23:34,660 --> 01:23:39,700
Addison County, you'd have a single board responsible

1019
01:23:40,660 --> 01:23:44,220
for all the budgets and stuff like that,

1020
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,920
as well as whether schools would stay open or not.

1021
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,440
So that's a big deal in some of the towns.

1022
01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:55,080
There's another option on the table that from the Senate

1023
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:57,540
that we talk about supervisory unions

1024
01:23:57,540 --> 01:24:05,960
would give a little more flexibility, the talents in terms of education policy and keeping schools

1025
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:13,740
open if they should be kept open. So I'm going to get my head chopped off if I go beyond five

1026
01:24:13,740 --> 01:24:21,880
minutes or I'm going to go to some things around housing. Really important, just I really feel

1027
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:26,820
for especially some of the young kids, families that are trying to start out and trying to find

1028
01:24:26,820 --> 01:24:34,200
place and it just can't find a place. I think there's some pension these days between our need for housing

1029
01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:41,420
and not environmental standards themselves, but a lot of the process that we use around deciding,

1030
01:24:41,420 --> 01:24:50,120
you know, what should be built. And that's playing out in the state house. I personally think that

1031
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:56,480
we need to line up a little bit on the process while keeping the standards so we can get more housing.

1032
01:24:56,820 --> 01:25:01,140
But I welcome, you know, comments about that.

1033
01:25:01,620 --> 01:25:04,040
Healthcare, primary care, I think is a real big deal.

1034
01:25:05,180 --> 01:25:09,600
And trying to support that as much as we can.

1035
01:25:10,420 --> 01:25:15,180
Specific bills, I've been working in a committee that deals with genetic data

1036
01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:15,820
privacy.

1037
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,060
Privacy issues, I think, are real, real important these days.

1038
01:25:21,500 --> 01:25:26,800
A bill around course debt, so if you're in a domestic situation and you're

1039
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:33,000
or has signed up for a loan or some sort, you know, trying to create a process to get that

1040
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:42,900
person out of, out of, in, into financial, uh, good place, uh, again. Um, I think, uh, I think

1041
01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:49,260
about it. Um, I'm trying to organize a meeting. I hope that it will be in, uh,

1042
01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:55,080
a month and in about a week or so. Uh, it's trying to get folks, um, sense of where the coming

1043
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,140
I'm on some of these education issues, you know, I have really

1044
01:25:58,140 --> 01:26:00,940
tip of the iceberg in terms of what I talked about here.

1045
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,080
But instead of, you know, my talking to you about this,

1046
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,900
or I'm not another, you know, I'm hoping that this kind of a meeting

1047
01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:09,960
will allow folks to bring your questions, concerns,

1048
01:26:10,220 --> 01:26:11,240
suggestions, whatever.

1049
01:26:12,140 --> 01:26:14,180
So I hope to see you then too.

1050
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,080
How was that?

1051
01:26:16,380 --> 01:26:16,660
Very good.

1052
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,980
Four minutes.

1053
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:25,880
A new record.

1054
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:38,060
Okay, folks, back to the meeting. Article six shall the voters approve the sum, not to exceed

1055
01:26:38,060 --> 01:26:49,660
311,930 dollars for the purchase of a John Deer rev grader with a total cost of 361,930 dollars,

1056
01:26:49,660 --> 01:26:53,320
less 50,000 for a trade allowance.

1057
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:55,800
Is there a motion?

1058
01:26:56,820 --> 01:26:57,240
So moved.

1059
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:01,320
Second?

1060
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,280
Uh, yeah.

1061
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:04,120
Okay.

1062
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,200
There's the second.

1063
01:27:05,580 --> 01:27:07,560
Article sex has been moved and seconded.

1064
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:08,220
Select board.

1065
01:27:08,540 --> 01:27:10,260
Anything you'd like to say?

1066
01:27:16,300 --> 01:27:17,740
Trevor, do you want to say anything or no?

1067
01:27:17,980 --> 01:27:19,120
It's up to you.

1068
01:27:19,260 --> 01:27:19,420
Okay.

1069
01:27:32,670 --> 01:27:36,790
This machine that we have has never actually been shipped in any way.

1070
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:41,850
So, all the work that's being done to this machine, which is roughly $48,000 worth of repairs,

1071
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:44,950
it's just shimming any components that move.

1072
01:27:46,010 --> 01:27:49,130
And that's just to tighten up the mobile board to try and get rid of the washboard effect

1073
01:27:49,130 --> 01:27:51,690
that that grain is currently leaving on the roads that we do.

1074
01:27:52,590 --> 01:27:57,650
And that's not including any motor repairs and transmission repairs or any hydraulic drive lines.

1075
01:27:57,870 --> 01:28:00,570
That's just solely the shimming of the machine.

1076
01:28:01,930 --> 01:28:05,850
The whole purpose of just going to a new machine is with the hydraulics,

1077
01:28:05,850 --> 01:28:07,790
and everything else that we also need with that machine.

1078
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:09,110
I mean, it does burn a little bit of oil.

1079
01:28:09,210 --> 01:28:10,510
It does burn something for one.

1080
01:28:11,050 --> 01:28:12,930
Shimming it to me seems like a band-aid fix

1081
01:28:12,930 --> 01:28:14,810
for something that's just going to cause this more problems

1082
01:28:14,810 --> 01:28:16,070
later down the road.

1083
01:28:16,610 --> 01:28:18,590
The machine was originally new for a 15 year replacement

1084
01:28:18,590 --> 01:28:20,410
we're currently on 21 years.

1085
01:28:21,290 --> 01:28:23,530
So we're a little overdo on that as it is.

1086
01:28:23,850 --> 01:28:25,870
So we're just hoping to be able to get a newer machine

1087
01:28:25,870 --> 01:28:28,050
to be able to find a better road surface

1088
01:28:28,050 --> 01:28:30,070
for people in your town is realistically

1089
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:30,930
what we're going for.

1090
01:28:32,190 --> 01:28:33,910
So if anybody has any other questions on that,

1091
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:39,090
I'm more than happy to answer them, but the majority of it is just to try and get rid of all the

1092
01:28:39,090 --> 01:28:40,750
losses in the machine that we have now.

1093
01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:41,790
Okay.

1094
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:42,890
Thank you.

1095
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:46,310
Other questions or comments from the floor.

1096
01:28:49,710 --> 01:28:50,610
Ready for the milk?

1097
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:53,800
Article 6.

1098
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:58,590
Shall the voters approve of some not to exceed 300 $11,930 dollars?

1099
01:28:59,300 --> 01:29:01,460
For the pressures of the John Dea Road greater.

1100
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:08,400
With a total cost of $361,930 less 50,000 for a trade allowance.

1101
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:17,400
All those in favor signify by saying aye, all those opposed signify by saying no, the

1102
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:23,440
eyes of prayer to have it, the eyes do have it, article six carries, article seven.

1103
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:31,560
So the voters authorized no more than $1,150,000 for the repairs of Ponywood's road of

1104
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:40,080
It's $60,700, sorry, $60,723 and $9,270.

1105
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:47,540
She'll be raised by taxes and $89,276 in $0.8 by non-tax revenues.

1106
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:49,000
Is there a motion?

1107
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,920
There's a motion, second, it's been seconded.

1108
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,760
All right, so Article 7 has been moved and seconded,

1109
01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:59,500
Select board.

1110
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:02,260
Anything you'd like to say?

1111
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:11,920
I guess we just go with whatever ask questions. Okay, floor, yes, sir. Go ahead and then I'll get to your ma'am.

1112
01:30:40,540 --> 01:30:47,500
me to get to Virginia. And I also rise to say, having been there for 35 years and watching

1113
01:30:47,500 --> 01:30:52,780
it blow out three or four times over that period of time, I would almost like to know

1114
01:30:52,780 --> 01:30:59,340
how much money has the town had to spend over the past 20 years to keep that road open

1115
01:30:59,340 --> 01:31:04,600
because if we're going to be doing this every 10 years, we may still just put a budget

1116
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,400
to keep Pineywood's road open.

1117
01:31:07,740 --> 01:31:14,360
Also, I would love to know from the select board or from any town official, how many actual

1118
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:22,220
complaint emails or letters from how many different town members have you actually received

1119
01:31:22,220 --> 01:31:27,540
that Warren's spending this amount of money when I am one of those ambulance drivers who

1120
01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:35,320
us this week, handed a divert of 116, we cannot use these roads and motorcycleists are going to kill

1121
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:42,260
themselves. In my wife and I, actually, we ride motorcycles. Our roads have become dangerous in places.

1122
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:47,480
There is a pot hole when you come up the road that's going to break somebody's axle coming up

1123
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:54,220
at a Lewis Creek. So, yes, it would benefit me? No, I don't think it's a great use of money

1124
01:31:54,220 --> 01:31:56,420
until we fix our primary roads.

1125
01:31:57,260 --> 01:32:00,180
And I don't see how you can say it's 150,000

1126
01:32:00,180 --> 01:32:01,800
after all these years.

1127
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,740
And we're setting a capital 150.

1128
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:05,360
What happens if we find out it's 200?

1129
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:06,840
Do we just stop?

1130
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:09,440
I'm a little confused.

1131
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:10,980
So, here it is for a minute.

1132
01:32:11,220 --> 01:32:11,880
So, like important.

1133
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:15,940
So, as far as the number of complaints and emails,

1134
01:32:16,300 --> 01:32:18,220
I can tell you it's about weekly

1135
01:32:18,220 --> 01:32:20,760
that we have received complaints about the road

1136
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:21,440
not being opened.

1137
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:22,560
From all eight of the people.

1138
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,340
There's back quite a few different people who've emailed the board phone calls.

1139
01:32:28,730 --> 01:32:37,490
So as far as the 150,000, so we've had FEMA getting involved, I'll be the weekly meetings

1140
01:32:37,490 --> 01:32:47,150
all last year, St. Majesica, and with rebuilding it to their specs, it's going to be $1.2 million

1141
01:32:47,150 --> 01:32:49,130
that they're going to put in for.

1142
01:32:49,130 --> 01:32:58,950
So, FEMA pays for 75% of the 1.2 million, the state pays for 12.5% of that.

1143
01:32:59,430 --> 01:33:06,210
Monkton's 12.5% is the 150,000 that you see in your time report.

1144
01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:22,800
So, what is the clear class designation of Pinywich Road?

1145
01:33:25,070 --> 01:33:33,070
So, if we're bringing it up to FEMA, whatever recommendations, is it staying a class 3 road or are you improving it?

1146
01:33:34,050 --> 01:33:36,970
It was still being class 3, but there would be improvements.

1147
01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:39,290
Are you going to be plowing it?

1148
01:33:39,390 --> 01:33:42,090
It will be class 1 or 5 days, a class 3 road, yes.

1149
01:33:42,450 --> 01:33:49,070
Okay, so you're going to widen it, improve it, but it's going to be a class 3, not improved further.

1150
01:33:49,070 --> 01:33:57,560
And then the culverts at the bottom will be improved and larger as well, which they did in the last month before the world.

1151
01:33:57,940 --> 01:33:58,620
It's basically bigger.

1152
01:33:59,620 --> 01:33:59,840
Okay.

1153
01:34:01,020 --> 01:34:02,240
Other questions, comment?

1154
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:02,840
Yes, ma'am.

1155
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:04,000
Yes, ma'am.

1156
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:07,200
Hi, Susan testimony.

1157
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:12,240
So I have a question about the class of the road in the minutes from the last select board meeting.

1158
01:34:12,440 --> 01:34:14,720
There was an option of turning it to a class four.

1159
01:34:15,220 --> 01:34:18,220
But I actually also wanted some clarification about class four.

1160
01:34:18,220 --> 01:34:25,480
It seemed like in those minutes it talked about that would allow them to close it and us to close it in the winter.

1161
01:34:25,820 --> 01:34:30,900
We have a class four room that we love to hike across the street for most, but you can't drive it.

1162
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:37,320
And so I'm just unclear about what it means to designate something a class four.

1163
01:34:38,300 --> 01:34:41,960
And what that would mean for Piny Woods, and then sort of a follow-up,

1164
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:47,960
would FEMA give us any money to make it a class four or would we forfeit any FEMA money if we did class four?

1165
01:34:52,190 --> 01:34:58,770
Great questions. I'll do my best and folks in board can add or whatever.

1166
01:35:00,750 --> 01:35:05,630
So we would not get FEMA money for making a class for and designating a road.

1167
01:35:05,870 --> 01:35:11,070
A class for is that I don't know the full details of the process but I don't think we can do that.

1168
01:35:11,390 --> 01:35:17,550
That would be done by the board. It's my understanding. So really what we're voting on is repairing it.

1169
01:35:17,550 --> 01:35:22,330
What Joe hopefully mentioned is, you know, it can look a little weird like how could it only cost

1170
01:35:22,330 --> 01:35:29,810
150,000. So there's that other FEMA component if we decide to go down that route. So FEMA and then that's that state share.

1171
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:42,600
I don't know if if I'm correct, but

1172
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,720
when FEMA awards money

1173
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:46,280
they

1174
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:47,320
list

1175
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:53,760
How you're supposed to use that money. You have to follow their guidance. If you don't follow your that guidance

1176
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,140
You have to report back to them what you've done.

1177
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,400
You don't want to mess around with that.

1178
01:36:00,460 --> 01:36:09,140
So I think we could repair the road and not go to the full length of what they're discussing

1179
01:36:09,140 --> 01:36:17,140
the $1.2 million, but we would have to still follow the hydrology study and follow the recommendations

1180
01:36:17,140 --> 01:36:24,240
from the state regarding taking care of the strain and but we wouldn't have to go the whole

1181
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:29,320
route and then we would have to return the money that we didn't use to FEMA. That's my understanding.

1182
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:34,330
Thanks for that. It's more. It's a better answer than what I gave. I agree.

1183
01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:41,530
Okay. Other questions or comments under article 7. Yes, ma'am.

1184
01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:49,710
Thanks, John.

1185
01:36:49,930 --> 01:36:55,670
So from what I've heard it sounds like it wouldn't be a good idea to do this but I would like to hear

1186
01:36:55,670 --> 01:36:59,670
from somebody here who thinks it would be a good idea to pass us.

1187
01:37:03,670 --> 01:37:06,850
Select board, I didn't actually hear the question.

1188
01:37:07,790 --> 01:37:09,390
Who wants to answer it?

1189
01:37:11,950 --> 01:37:16,210
She was just asking, she's heard people say why not to prove it.

1190
01:37:16,330 --> 01:37:20,150
She wanted to hear from somebody who thinks it's a good idea to improve it.

1191
01:37:21,550 --> 01:37:21,790
Okay.

1192
01:37:22,750 --> 01:37:25,150
We're getting a little far afield from the warned article,

1193
01:37:25,150 --> 01:37:29,970
but I'll allow that. Go ahead. Anybody want to answer?

1194
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,520
So a woman in the back?

1195
01:37:38,740 --> 01:38:04,180
Julie Palin. I've lived on Pinywood's road for 42 plus years. So I can tell you, I walked the road, I'd like the road, I'd write on the road. And I've seen many people use that road to get to parks for a road or the other direction. And, you know, I'm supporting it being open, because I think it does.

1196
01:38:04,180 --> 01:38:08,140
to help people get from one place to the other.

1197
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,300
So I just want you all to know,

1198
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:13,060
I've seen a lot of traffic going that way.

1199
01:38:13,480 --> 01:38:16,280
So I'm gouging for that, and that's my opinion.

1200
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,660
Uh, yes, sir, in the front here, and then I'll get to you.

1201
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:22,920
Yeah.

1202
01:38:23,660 --> 01:38:23,880
Front.

1203
01:38:24,220 --> 01:38:24,340
Yeah.

1204
01:38:25,140 --> 01:38:25,760
Thank you.

1205
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:26,640
The other front.

1206
01:38:26,980 --> 01:38:27,300
All right.

1207
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,940
So just so I understand this as well.

1208
01:38:30,940 --> 01:38:38,240
So Article 7, the 150,000 is to move forward with the FEMA project where FEMA is going

1209
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,520
to do most of the money, as you said, the percentage states going to give us a percentage.

1210
01:38:43,180 --> 01:38:49,280
This is our share of that project to make those full, the bigger culverts, everything else

1211
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,780
that they said needed to be done based on the hydrology studies and everything else.

1212
01:38:53,080 --> 01:39:00,720
Yes, if I have the studies right here as well, but as you'll see in here, so the 12.5%

1213
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,500
of $1.2 million is $150,000.

1214
01:39:03,940 --> 01:39:08,680
That is being offset, because we have FEMA funds

1215
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,280
from other rows that we did not use last year,

1216
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:18,040
which is the $18,000 to $176, which will help offset

1217
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,160
that $150,000.

1218
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,220
Okay, then it sounds like it's a worthwhile investment.

1219
01:39:22,340 --> 01:39:25,100
So what we're asking for is the $60,000.

1220
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:26,600
Yep, that's a worthwhile investment.

1221
01:39:27,140 --> 01:39:29,520
Okay, and then there was a gentleman

1222
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:37,130
and then right behind you. Yeah. Okay. Mike Bushie again. My question is going to be too

1223
01:39:37,130 --> 01:39:44,270
part, I guess. First part is if the vote is approved, it's $150,000. But Fever doesn't give us

1224
01:39:44,270 --> 01:39:52,530
the money. What happens to the 150 grand? A. And with regard to the viability of Ponywood Road as

1225
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:58,730
a road for the community. I think it makes a lot more sense to have that road than it does to maintain

1226
01:39:58,730 --> 01:40:01,350
in a full length of old stage road, for instance.

1227
01:40:01,950 --> 01:40:02,990
So, there you go.

1228
01:40:04,190 --> 01:40:04,750
Slypon?

1229
01:40:06,070 --> 01:40:08,070
There's been a lot of conversation this year

1230
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:10,890
about whether towns or states will receive FEMA funding.

1231
01:40:11,210 --> 01:40:12,990
So, it's a really good question, Mike.

1232
01:40:14,590 --> 01:40:17,350
Just this morning, I've learned that we received

1233
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:20,290
the final dollars that we would do to receive from FEMA.

1234
01:40:21,130 --> 01:40:22,650
So, we actually have

1235
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:28,630
close to $900,000 from FEMA sitting in our bank

1236
01:40:28,630 --> 01:40:34,830
count right now to put towards this. The way the FEMA funds work is for projects of this size

1237
01:40:34,830 --> 01:40:40,150
were awarded 90% of the money. The remaining 10% is sitting with the state. So that money

1238
01:40:40,150 --> 01:40:44,630
is gone from the federal government to the state. So the likelihood that we will have all that

1239
01:40:44,630 --> 01:40:48,150
money in order to complete the work is extremely high.

1240
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,840
Okay. Other questions, sir? Yes, sir. Come on up.

1241
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:07,380
Just one real comment quick. My name is John Zekowski. With respect to the FEMA money and the

1242
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:13,020
studies that were referenced, I don't work for FEMA, but generally my understanding is that when

1243
01:41:13,020 --> 01:41:18,540
FEMA does their hydrology studies and designs these projects, they're looking at certain size

1244
01:41:18,540 --> 01:41:23,260
storm events over time. So in other words, to get back to Mr. Richter's comment earlier is

1245
01:41:23,260 --> 01:41:27,780
he's just worth it over time. Generally they're going to design the sizes of these box

1246
01:41:27,780 --> 01:41:35,760
So these structures to withstand certain floods, you might hear the phrase 100-year flood event or 500-year flood event.

1247
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:44,140
I don't know what specific study they did here, but my guess is that they modeled it to withstand a pretty significant size flood.

1248
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:51,120
So that hopefully, again, this may be able to withstand floods over an extended period of time.

1249
01:41:51,140 --> 01:41:54,180
Do I know that for sure? No, but my strong suspicion is yes.

1250
01:41:54,180 --> 01:42:01,380
They wouldn't be providing this level of funding for a smaller size structure that's just going to get washed out five years from now.

1251
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:03,280
Thank you. Yes, sir.

1252
01:42:08,510 --> 01:42:12,410
As I said, I'm going to benefit from this. I like being able to get divergence.

1253
01:42:12,530 --> 01:42:16,290
It's not that I rise against it, but my question then, and that's a great explanation.

1254
01:42:17,290 --> 01:42:24,530
Did the town receive FEMA funds the last time when we had to rebuild Pineywood's road because both the culverts had blown out.

1255
01:42:24,530 --> 01:42:29,810
one at the bottom, where the stone turns the water and the one further up. Did FEMA provide funding

1256
01:42:29,810 --> 01:42:32,770
to us to allow us, that just totally pay by the town.

1257
01:42:34,210 --> 01:42:44,990
So I recall from what the previous roadformin said was that in 2019, that road did receive FEMA funds.

1258
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:51,970
Maybe John, you remember? So the FEMA did their studies recommended we spent the money and

1259
01:42:51,970 --> 01:43:00,530
and it blew out again. Okay. Yeah, no. Yeah, the problem is we have a hundred

1260
01:43:00,530 --> 01:43:07,310
year for every ten years now today. So, you know, John, are you talking to anyone else?

1261
01:43:07,410 --> 01:43:13,610
Have any questions or comments? Yes, ma'am. In the back. Steve, I don't see you.

1262
01:43:21,810 --> 01:43:22,410
Yes,

1263
01:43:22,410 --> 01:43:36,090
Mike, whatever. Okay. Hi, Barb Cranville. I just had a clarifying question. If we, if we don't take the FEMA money, if we choose not to do repairs, do we lose it for future years?

1264
01:43:37,630 --> 01:43:38,370
So I bet.

1265
01:43:43,670 --> 01:43:45,310
Yes, we would lose that money.

1266
01:43:47,970 --> 01:43:53,950
Yeah, why would you ever turn down money from the federal government? Especially these days. Anyway, yes, sir.

1267
01:43:53,950 --> 01:44:07,950
I have all the tools on there, opportunity costs for town employee hours or machinery for the project and does that endanger some of the planning that we just approved and

1268
01:44:08,930 --> 01:44:16,950
Can you remind me how long or how how much service time money will it's has been in operation for the last five or 10 years.

1269
01:44:18,770 --> 01:44:24,990
select board. Yeah, I can't give you an exact answer but how much service time has been down there.

1270
01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:29,170
I mean, Trevor, you can chime in. You've been here for around five years. If you want, you don't have to, of course.

1271
01:44:32,980 --> 01:44:40,400
But yeah, and you asked about opportunity cost, great question. I mean, there would be a lot of opportunity benefit going through this because I mean,

1272
01:44:41,980 --> 01:44:46,540
done, may the details of which, if we done through an outside company, which are there

1273
01:44:46,540 --> 01:44:51,500
for free, may the crew might help out, but would free up the crew for doing a number

1274
01:44:51,500 --> 01:44:54,540
of other projects that I know that they're planning. So there will be a benefit to going

1275
01:44:54,540 --> 01:44:56,400
with this route with the theme of support.

1276
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,820
And if I should also say it folks one more

1277
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,200
Details about the study or about the process. We have them here, and feel free to ask us any time.

1278
01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:15,160
So, I just want to add one more thing to that. So, if this is passed, we will put it out to bid for different contract and companies.

1279
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:26,200
And at that point, they will probably walk the road and everything with us, with device and king and they will submit their bids.

1280
01:45:27,020 --> 01:45:38,900
So the local contractor, whoever gets the bit, will be the ones doing the work, and if they need a truck or something from the highway department here and there, I'm sure we can facilitate that.

1281
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:40,920
Okay, yes sir.

1282
01:45:50,890 --> 01:45:53,410
I'm going to do show how my live up on Burl Hill.

1283
01:45:53,650 --> 01:45:57,730
And I just wonder how many wood does it get fixed, what will happen to her?

1284
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:09,840
Yeah, I mean, not if it doesn't get fixed, I mean there's, I guess there's a couple options we have, but it's basically going to stay the way it is, you know, folks walk on it.

1285
01:46:10,300 --> 01:46:12,380
And, you know, it won't be accessible.

1286
01:46:13,620 --> 01:46:15,500
But you're going to allow the public to walk on

1287
01:46:15,500 --> 01:46:17,920
when you have put bridges in and get over the two streams.

1288
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,860
And that will probably come out of the telemoney

1289
01:46:23,460 --> 01:46:25,720
and probably have to be engineered by the state.

1290
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,120
Yeah, we haven't made any decision about what to do

1291
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,120
if we don't repair it.

1292
01:46:32,460 --> 01:46:34,880
I mean, I think you've asked this question

1293
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,580
because this is why it's really important.

1294
01:46:36,740 --> 01:46:38,720
Or we felt it was really important to have this as an article

1295
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:43,060
a town meeting. So questions like yours and we could discuss it as a group. So there would

1296
01:46:43,060 --> 01:46:47,080
be, you know, if we decided to keep it under eminent that would be a decision for the

1297
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,420
for the board to make whether or not to add bridges there. But that would obviously,

1298
01:46:49,700 --> 01:46:52,840
you know, we need permitting and all that stuff. And we need to follow the proper state

1299
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,660
process. So there would be costs to that if we decided to do that.

1300
01:46:55,860 --> 01:46:59,260
I just think it's a valuable infrastructure to be ashamed of the rules of it.

1301
01:47:00,980 --> 01:47:04,020
Okay. Other questions or comments? Yes, ma'am.

1302
01:47:06,570 --> 01:47:09,590
Yeah. I'll get to the next. Thanks.

1303
01:47:09,590 --> 01:47:11,670
that make a rick near the other half.

1304
01:47:11,890 --> 01:47:15,210
That lives right, right, where Pinywood almost ends.

1305
01:47:17,550 --> 01:47:19,850
I highly recommend that we reopen the road,

1306
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:22,330
because it is a direct route down to Virginia.

1307
01:47:22,730 --> 01:47:25,490
It's better if my husband, when he goes on first responses,

1308
01:47:25,650 --> 01:47:28,350
has to go all the way around to get the other side of town.

1309
01:47:29,290 --> 01:47:30,770
When we moved in in 1992,

1310
01:47:31,150 --> 01:47:32,650
we didn't realize it was the middle of the winter.

1311
01:47:32,750 --> 01:47:34,410
We didn't realize the road was blown out.

1312
01:47:34,890 --> 01:47:36,990
And we were like, oh, this road is so peaceful.

1313
01:47:37,190 --> 01:47:38,310
This road is so quiet.

1314
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:54,650
And then the, they fixed the road and we realized there was a lot more traffic but it still is a very useful road and I think that it probably should be open as long as it can be guaranteed that this time it won't blow out again in five years.

1315
01:47:54,650 --> 01:48:12,750
Also, one thought if it's not fixed is, the many years ago, we talked to some of the landowners down that road and tried to recommend that the Autobahn center take over some of the land down there,

1316
01:48:12,750 --> 01:48:16,850
what down by the water and the cliffs and the it's really an amazing place

1317
01:48:16,850 --> 01:48:20,750
burning and everything and I highly recommend that the town

1318
01:48:21,450 --> 01:48:25,910
reach out to park system or or the town

1319
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:30,930
town far as system or the Audubon Center and set the road up as a place

1320
01:48:30,930 --> 01:48:35,110
for people to go and you know birdwatch hike etc etc.

1321
01:48:43,570 --> 01:48:48,050
I'm just wondering if we had FEMA funds left over from other projects

1322
01:48:48,050 --> 01:48:54,390
Why would we lose these if we didn't use them if we still had some leftover?

1323
01:48:55,110 --> 01:49:00,350
And I was also wondering when FEMA needs to have a decision from the down.

1324
01:49:00,870 --> 01:49:01,510
Like Gordon?

1325
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:08,220
Those are great questions, Kelly.

1326
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:09,880
Thank you.

1327
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,000
Speak right into it.

1328
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:21,700
So, FEMA funds, FEMA projects get classified in different ways and depending on the dollar amount.

1329
01:49:21,700 --> 01:49:32,360
So, the funds that we have left over are from a dollar amount that was below a certain threshold by which we get to keep those funds.

1330
01:49:34,060 --> 01:49:41,400
With projects that are as large as the Piny Woods Rose project, we wouldn't be able to keep those funds.

1331
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,200
I think Stan, right?

1332
01:49:44,500 --> 01:49:52,830
So, the reason we have money left over is because when, what is the, what does that mean?

1333
01:49:52,930 --> 01:50:00,110
Old stage, thank you. When Old stage was repaired, there were some funds left over from that.

1334
01:50:01,810 --> 01:50:03,830
And Davis wrote too. Thank you, Joe.

1335
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:06,890
And that was one part of your question. What was the other part?

1336
01:50:06,890 --> 01:50:07,570
when is

1337
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:16,840
right. We had already asked for an extension because these funds were supposed to be used

1338
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:24,240
up by February or something silly like that. So stand asked for an extension and we would be able

1339
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,720
to ask for another extension. So we don't really have a deadline at this point.

1340
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:31,050
I think it was July.

1341
01:50:33,390 --> 01:50:33,910
July

1342
01:50:36,690 --> 01:50:43,650
14th. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yes, sir. And then I'll get to the person over here. We're still talking

1343
01:50:43,650 --> 01:50:44,850
about Article 7.

1344
01:50:47,580 --> 01:50:50,560
You've parented over on Silver Street, which is kind of bouncy.

1345
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,060
I remember some years ago, we had a flood in Vermont.

1346
01:50:56,300 --> 01:50:57,640
It wasn't in the last several.

1347
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,060
It was longer to go.

1348
01:50:59,860 --> 01:51:02,880
But I understood from a newspaper article

1349
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:08,020
that culverts that were put in had to follow FEMA recommendations

1350
01:51:08,820 --> 01:51:11,680
and all those culverts eventually flew out.

1351
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,440
But because you took the FEMA money,

1352
01:51:14,440 --> 01:51:17,180
you couldn't do anything else but what they recommended.

1353
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:22,220
So I'm wondering, is can we all rebuild the culverse?

1354
01:51:22,700 --> 01:51:24,920
Because the storms aren't going to get less intense.

1355
01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:29,220
And if we have to put it, I'm sort of with Mark Richtner on this

1356
01:51:29,220 --> 01:51:31,260
that I think is going to blow out again.

1357
01:51:32,380 --> 01:51:35,700
And I don't know if we have the flexibility to build larger

1358
01:51:35,700 --> 01:51:37,000
stream crossings.

1359
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:39,340
I think John wants to answer this one.

1360
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:49,240
So there's, there's a couple kinds of theme of projects.

1361
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,740
It's always a pain to deal with them and it takes forever,

1362
01:51:53,020 --> 01:51:54,820
usually takes forever to get your money back.

1363
01:51:55,500 --> 01:51:59,280
But if you're going to rebuild something as it was before,

1364
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,540
it's a little more straightforward process and a little faster

1365
01:52:03,540 --> 01:52:05,440
process to get a response from FEMA.

1366
01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:09,620
So the first time was the 2020, I forget when the other blowout

1367
01:52:09,620 --> 01:52:12,680
was 2019, that blowout,

1368
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:18,860
We got the approval more quickly, we got funds more quickly because we were basically putting it back as it was in fact

1369
01:52:18,860 --> 01:52:21,120
I think the exact same culverts

1370
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,830
At least from the large ones went back in where they were before

1371
01:52:24,780 --> 01:52:27,690
So it went through pretty quickly as a much smaller number

1372
01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:29,740
What's proposed?

1373
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:36,660
Now, well, in part of the reason that it took so long and it's been down so long is, it didn't make sense to go back.

1374
01:52:37,460 --> 01:52:41,580
And let's just replace it as it was again before and build it back again.

1375
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:48,120
Five years later, we have another blowout. It just doesn't make sense to keep doing the same thing and expect a different outcome.

1376
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:53,600
So we went through the more lengthy process of, we need to upgrade this.

1377
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:59,680
We need to get a, they pay, I think, a lower percentage when you're doing, you know, an upgrade.

1378
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:05,760
And it takes a lot longer to get approval. So that was a whole, and if you look at the proposals,

1379
01:53:06,980 --> 01:53:13,560
the culvert, I'm not sure the box culverts are just, yeah, they're like what went in on mountain road,

1380
01:53:13,700 --> 01:53:21,080
not long ago, and by the lanes on the Bristol road before then,

1381
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:26,680
And there are much, much bigger, probably would have wing walls to protect them and let

1382
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:27,180
them everything.

1383
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,920
Is that going to guarantee that it doesn't pull out again?

1384
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:32,900
I can guarantee you it's not.

1385
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,000
That road is a problem road.

1386
01:53:36,460 --> 01:53:39,660
It will get damaged again when we have a big storm.

1387
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:45,540
With these improvements, it should be a whole lot less of a mess than what happened this

1388
01:53:45,540 --> 01:53:50,840
time, because the culverts will be able to carry it and it should be more minor damage

1389
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,900
like we see on other roads when we get a big storm.

1390
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,320
OK, other questions or comments?

1391
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:58,460
Yes, sir, and then I'll get to you.

1392
01:53:58,700 --> 01:53:59,640
Yes, sir, in the back.

1393
01:54:08,510 --> 01:54:10,110
And from my side of the fence,

1394
01:54:10,810 --> 01:54:12,250
it's a nice little country road.

1395
01:54:12,750 --> 01:54:14,590
It should stay a nice little country road.

1396
01:54:15,550 --> 01:54:16,910
If you've widened the way they want it,

1397
01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:18,950
it's going to be like a big interstate.

1398
01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:22,350
Guide rails to all nine yards down to the finding wood road.

1399
01:54:22,830 --> 01:54:26,370
If that's what you folks want to look at, vote for it.

1400
01:54:26,370 --> 01:54:28,550
I choose not to, but I'd rather see the road closed.

1401
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:30,150
Thank you.

1402
01:54:37,660 --> 01:54:39,340
Yeah, my name is Michael Herbert.

1403
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:41,020
I'm with Tom Kenyan.

1404
01:54:41,020 --> 01:54:43,900
We all in the rest of the property on the point of Woodrowed.

1405
01:54:45,020 --> 01:54:49,240
Years ago, the point of Woodrowed was designated as scenic route,

1406
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:50,060
which it is.

1407
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:51,580
I mean, the road's closed.

1408
01:54:51,860 --> 01:54:55,000
And all kinds of people are walking up and down the road.

1409
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,620
If we're talking about the autobond society,

1410
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,420
wanting to access some of our property,

1411
01:55:01,420 --> 01:55:09,590
Well, tell you the truth of their property is legally posted and we got trio came with the people walking all over our property, but that's besides the point

1412
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,500
As far as I'm concerned we should leave the road

1413
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:16,860
as

1414
01:55:17,210 --> 01:55:22,840
as it is as much as possible the problem has been the culverts were not big enough

1415
01:55:23,460 --> 01:55:27,500
I mean when you you know the culverts not big enough it washes out again

1416
01:55:28,420 --> 01:55:31,180
You don't put the same size culvert back in.

1417
01:55:31,340 --> 01:55:37,820
You put a bigger culvert in, but the thing of it is, if you put the bigger culvert in,

1418
01:55:38,060 --> 01:55:44,620
it's there, which takes a water five years out of 20, it's fine, but there was those years

1419
01:55:44,620 --> 01:55:49,560
where we have the fresh it, you know, the big floods it comes through, where that culvert's

1420
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:50,380
not picking up.

1421
01:55:50,660 --> 01:55:57,320
So simply, you need some bigger culverts or you need to put some culverts aside with

1422
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:02,660
bigger culverts so when the water gets up there it has a place to go and my brother

1423
01:56:02,660 --> 01:56:08,680
day was saying well the upper culvert all you need to do is have a place for the water

1424
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:13,920
to go when it when it you know can't go through the culvert so if you make a ditch

1425
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:19,960
between the two culverts that are already there in line it was stone when the water can't

1426
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:25,800
culvert can't take it it goes down the ditch and avoids the other culvert and goes back into

1427
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:33,320
the brook. And there's a lot of things that can be done without widening the road without cutting

1428
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:37,960
all the trees down. I mean the trees that are there sure the snow plow hooks them because

1429
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:45,600
the road is narrow. But the trees also hold a road in place. They hold a road from washing out.

1430
01:56:45,980 --> 01:56:50,960
And if you take the trees out, you're going to have to put some burglars up because there's a

1431
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:54,600
to drop off there, and if somebody rolls off that, they're going to get killed.

1432
01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:03,240
So I'd like to just see him with bigger culverts in, maybe some more, and fix the road.

1433
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,860
As it was, as much as we can, sure, to shortcut.

1434
01:57:07,220 --> 01:57:12,200
I mean, I go to my daughter's house over on the lanes over there, and I have to go all the way

1435
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:17,460
around, or before, it was just a shortcut, and I'm sure a lot of people, I kind of like

1436
01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:22,540
have it closed because there's a lot less traffic going by my house in the morning. But I guess

1437
01:57:22,540 --> 01:57:24,680
that's all I have to say. Thank you.

1438
01:57:30,510 --> 01:57:33,190
Article 7, any other questions are caught?

1439
01:57:33,590 --> 01:57:34,810
Ments. Yes.

1440
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:45,860
Oh, come on. Let me sit down this time. So, Pinewood has always been my favorite

1441
01:57:45,860 --> 01:57:48,080
place to bicycle in Monkton.

1442
01:57:49,660 --> 01:57:56,360
That said, $1.2 million to repair it.

1443
01:57:57,100 --> 01:57:59,280
FEMA responds to a lot of natural disasters.

1444
01:57:59,780 --> 01:58:02,020
They fund a lot of repair as natural disasters.

1445
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:05,200
Funny what's road is relatively minor.

1446
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:09,760
And this is money that is part of a larger society.

1447
01:58:10,420 --> 01:58:14,240
And the question comes down is, is this the best place

1448
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,320
to spend $1.2 million dollars.

1449
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,380
The way I finally thought about it for myself

1450
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,400
is just some quick math.

1451
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:27,840
If you assume 50 cars a day, I'm funny with this road.

1452
01:58:30,180 --> 01:58:32,760
And driving 365 days a year, and you

1453
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:36,820
buy that into $1.2 million, that's $65 per car.

1454
01:58:38,220 --> 01:58:40,260
So now that's just over one year.

1455
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,480
If you say 10 years, that's $6.50 per car.

1456
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:47,220
travel that road. You know, think about it as a total

1457
01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:50,720
road. You're going to charge $6 a $5 a ride up and down

1458
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:55,560
that road each year to keep it maintained. It's just in terms

1459
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,800
of overall society. It seems to me that it's low-wonged

1460
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,160
their practical. Maybe practical for saving time in the

1461
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:05,940
horse and buggy age, but in cars. I think it's time to let

1462
01:59:05,940 --> 01:59:07,580
the road go to the class for it.

1463
01:59:11,210 --> 01:59:13,090
I actually wanted to let

1464
01:59:13,090 --> 01:59:16,150
you have the opportunity to respond because I don't know

1465
01:59:16,150 --> 01:59:18,190
what the engineering studies look like.

1466
01:59:18,450 --> 01:59:20,210
Things have just been put out on the table.

1467
01:59:21,710 --> 01:59:24,030
Are we really looking at retaining walls?

1468
01:59:24,190 --> 01:59:25,470
Are you widening the road?

1469
01:59:25,670 --> 01:59:27,710
So two fire trucks can pass,

1470
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:30,830
are you making it, are we going from a 30 foot easement

1471
01:59:30,830 --> 01:59:32,130
to a 60 foot easement?

1472
01:59:32,850 --> 01:59:34,790
Are we putting up retaining walls?

1473
01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:36,130
Where the trees are gonna come down?

1474
01:59:36,190 --> 01:59:38,810
Because it is a straight drop, 40 feet at times.

1475
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:41,190
Are they're going to be guard rails?

1476
01:59:41,750 --> 01:59:43,350
Could things were just brought up?

1477
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:45,190
I'd love to give you the opportunity to respond.

1478
01:59:46,490 --> 01:59:47,570
So I put,

1479
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:59,980
yes, the road would need to be wide and if we were with the theme of it.

1480
02:00:00,700 --> 02:00:09,780
And I just want to say, like, this is why we wanted to have this as an article at town meeting. Maybe folks are like, I want to get the app out of here, but this is really, this is really important. These are great questions.

1481
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:20,820
I mean, we're really in a bind. So if that road is going to be repaired, the most inexpensive and effective option is to go with the FEMA route.

1482
02:00:20,820 --> 02:00:26,780
The challenge or that, obviously, into Mr. Kenyan's points, which I totally take in

1483
02:00:26,780 --> 02:00:30,200
sincerity, is, you know, that's going to change the character of the road.

1484
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:35,300
And we would have to adhere to the FEMA standards and also the state permanent standards.

1485
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:39,640
You know, so we would be limited by those constraints.

1486
02:00:40,140 --> 02:00:44,340
Now, those vessions of the law, you know, like the state law and federal law, which we have

1487
02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:46,260
to comply with.

1488
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:48,160
Thank you, my son, out there.

1489
02:00:49,780 --> 02:00:54,300
In terms of the work that will be done, I can share the high level of what the theme

1490
02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:54,940
is recommended.

1491
02:00:55,420 --> 02:00:59,980
I don't recall anything about retaining walls, but at the end there would be three box

1492
02:00:59,980 --> 02:01:02,800
culverts, and there would also be a number of Vanessa Hobert's point.

1493
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:08,520
There would be some ditching higher up and up-sizing some of those culverts across culverts

1494
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:09,820
that are going across the road.

1495
02:01:11,500 --> 02:01:12,860
I've learned a lot about culverts.

1496
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:16,180
I've walked that road about 10 times, many of the times with Joe.

1497
02:01:16,900 --> 02:01:20,800
The culverts that are there actually need to be installed at an angle.

1498
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:25,180
So right now they're at a right angle and they need to be installed at a more like a 45 degree

1499
02:01:25,180 --> 02:01:27,000
angle to better redirect water.

1500
02:01:27,460 --> 02:01:29,160
So that's also in the theme of proposal.

1501
02:01:31,380 --> 02:01:35,120
So there are a number of changes that I mean like John said I totally agree we can't guarantee

1502
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:40,520
that a one damage the row but this would give us the best chance to both allow that row to

1503
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:45,120
be open and then we would do everything we possibly can to preserve the row character that

1504
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:49,680
within the constraints that are provided to us from the Fed's federal government and from the state.

1505
02:01:50,740 --> 02:01:54,900
So, so this culverts are going to be some ditching, and then box culverts at the end.

1506
02:01:58,680 --> 02:01:59,680
Does that answer your question?

1507
02:02:01,990 --> 02:02:02,130
Yep.

1508
02:02:21,420 --> 02:02:22,360
That should only be

1509
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:27,340
70 feet across.

1510
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:31,860
Anyway, so, are you, I don't know the study.

1511
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:35,920
There's no room when you go down the hill.

1512
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,020
There is nothing to the right.

1513
02:02:39,740 --> 02:02:45,700
So, are you cutting into the left to make it wider, or are we filling all that to the right?

1514
02:02:47,020 --> 02:02:48,400
There's only certain of them.

1515
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:51,440
We'd be cutting more of the left.

1516
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:57,800
There's nothing in that space, but if I hear this concern, I know that exactly that corner you're talking about.

1517
02:02:57,880 --> 02:02:59,660
I mean, I think that would be something crust to consider.

1518
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:01,300
I mean, the safety of that road is really important.

1519
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:04,180
You know, I think, you know, that's probably my favorite road in town.

1520
02:03:04,180 --> 02:03:05,900
and I look very close by there.

1521
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,560
There are parts of that road that need to be more safe.

1522
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:09,460
For sure.

1523
02:03:09,580 --> 02:03:11,000
I mean, there's that blind curve that you're talking

1524
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,420
about that left piece there.

1525
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:13,560
I know exactly we're talking about that.

1526
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:15,940
We are proposing that would be a part of the pose

1527
02:03:15,940 --> 02:03:18,500
of going to that side rather than going off into the stream,

1528
02:03:18,780 --> 02:03:19,900
which I don't think would even be permitted.

1529
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:21,560
I'm not an engineer, but yeah.

1530
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:24,760
And I guess my follow-up is going back to what Roger said.

1531
02:03:26,060 --> 02:03:30,900
It sounds like we're going to have an incredible, well-designed,

1532
02:03:31,140 --> 02:03:33,320
beautifully constructed to my heart.

1533
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:40,980
one mile road at each end of which is an old country road and this is probably going to end

1534
02:03:40,980 --> 02:03:48,000
up being the best dirt road we have in the entire town or a cutthrew that used to be a

1535
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:55,460
scenic bypass. It's just bring it up. They didn't get it. It's no benefit. Right now we cannot

1536
02:03:55,460 --> 02:03:59,900
we won't take an ambulance through there. I'm not sure we will once it's fixed. We'll have to

1537
02:03:59,900 --> 02:04:03,940
to see what it looks like. But if it looks like we could, it probably means it's lost all of

1538
02:04:03,940 --> 02:04:04,520
this character.

1539
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:12,320
That's what I mean, our intention is certainly, I know it's not to disrupt the character

1540
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:16,800
of the road. It's just to offer you all the information about what we need, what we would

1541
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:22,960
need to comply with in order to repair it, and still receive the thing that we want to

1542
02:04:24,500 --> 02:04:25,880
Okay, Article 7.

1543
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:27,900
You've got a question?

1544
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:28,720
No, I don't know.

1545
02:04:28,940 --> 02:04:29,300
Okay.

1546
02:04:31,660 --> 02:04:31,920
Yeah.

1547
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:32,360
Go ahead.

1548
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:34,420
Let the slide board to make the move.

1549
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:36,440
Just one last comment.

1550
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:41,420
This article, according to, from outlies of cities and towns.

1551
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,640
This is not a binding vote.

1552
02:04:45,340 --> 02:04:46,700
You guys can vote against it.

1553
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,540
And the select board could still decide to fix the road.

1554
02:04:49,540 --> 02:04:58,860
But part of the reason for putting the article on the warning is because it's so important for us to hear from the voters what they want.

1555
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:11,720
So there was a lot of concern about keeping the road, like as it is, is rural as possible.

1556
02:05:12,180 --> 02:05:19,060
And Sam and I, we did try to go with that route with just what campus hours in walk

1557
02:05:19,060 --> 02:05:25,440
never road, we went with contractors, the highway department, but with how we were trying

1558
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:30,720
to do that, we were not going to get the permits approved to reopen the road that we needed

1559
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:35,300
and we crossed the rivers, which we didn't know at the time when we started going down that route

1560
02:05:35,900 --> 02:05:40,320
of having local contractors, so we would essentially have more control over how the road is

1561
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:45,800
me felt so I can I can tell you that was not going to be a proof so then it just comes back

1562
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:50,900
to the old throw it up or not like we've done the multiple of the risks okay so there's

1563
02:05:50,900 --> 02:05:59,440
been a request to call the question do I need to take that to a vote sorry unfortunately

1564
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:08,620
when when a voter requests to call the question in other words to cease to pay we've got

1565
02:06:08,620 --> 02:06:14,600
immediately move to a vote on that. So we're going to vote on the request to cease the pay.

1566
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:20,900
Although it's going to be by two thirds majority. All those in favor of the request to cease the

1567
02:06:20,900 --> 02:06:30,460
pay under Article 7, signify by saying aye. All those opposed signify by saying no. The

1568
02:06:30,460 --> 02:06:39,480
If you guys approve of it, the eyes do have a request to cease to make carries, okay, we're going to vote on Article 7.

1569
02:06:39,740 --> 02:06:43,260
She'll the voters authorized no more than $150,000.

1570
02:06:43,980 --> 02:06:47,560
For the repairs of finding Woods Road of which $60,000.

1571
02:06:49,420 --> 02:06:50,700
$7239,000.

1572
02:06:50,900 --> 02:06:57,880
She'll be raised by taxes and $89,200, $268,000 by non-tax revenues.

1573
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:02,900
All those in favor of Article 7, signify by saying aye.

1574
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,600
All those opposed signify by saying no.

1575
02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:16,160
Yeah, we're going to go to a division of the House.

1576
02:07:16,820 --> 02:07:20,300
Are there seven among you who would like to do a paper ballad,

1577
02:07:20,340 --> 02:07:22,120
or is a division of the House sufficient?

1578
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:24,880
I don't see seven hands.

1579
02:07:25,260 --> 02:07:27,320
One, two, three, four.

1580
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:46,900
The Division of the House would be either hand or standing. I don't see seven members that want to pay well. Okay, now I do. All right, all right, for the civil authority, please come forward. We're going to proceed to an Australia ballot or paper ballot on this article.

1581
02:08:22,340 --> 02:08:26,940
Okay, folks, if you're going to vote, you've got to stay in the room.

1582
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:33,500
The bear is so authority's going to pass out of ballot.

1583
02:08:33,980 --> 02:08:36,660
One ballot per person, only,

1584
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:42,100
well, you'll have, but you'll be surprised.

1585
02:08:42,980 --> 02:08:44,540
One ballot per person.

1586
02:08:45,140 --> 02:08:47,100
And then you mark your ballot.

1587
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:56,860
Yes, in favor of Article 7, though, a post of Article 7, the Bill of Civil Authority will ask you to

1588
02:08:56,860 --> 02:09:03,480
put your ballot into a box, and then we'll count them in rule and answer them up.

1589
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:07,000
It's going to take 10 or 15 minutes, so just to give you an idea.

1590
02:10:24,850 --> 02:10:25,650
Come on, do it after

1591
02:10:45,580 --> 02:10:47,880
you and deposit it next to Sharon.

1592
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:48,420
You

1593
02:11:09,380 --> 02:11:11,080
are not allowed to vote,

1594
02:11:14,530 --> 02:11:19,370
particularly in most towns, there is a non-resonant section for people to sit.

1595
02:11:20,570 --> 02:11:22,950
So if you're not a resident, please don't vote.

1596
02:13:19,900 --> 02:13:21,420
Let's go to vote in.

1597
02:13:21,660 --> 02:13:23,840
So that card you allowed to vote as well.

1598
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:25,700
You measured downspaper

1599
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:37,120
in these kinds of things unless to break a tie.

1600
02:13:50,620 --> 02:13:53,160
Okay, vote in is now ceased.

1601
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:54,620
We're going to count.

1602
02:14:13,230 --> 02:14:16,630
Your results are the vote here in a couple minutes.

1603
02:18:14,770 --> 02:18:28,550
And there was also the Australian ballot under Article 7. In favor, 54, opposed, 64, Article 7 fails,

1604
02:18:32,090 --> 02:18:33,530
article, yes, man?

1605
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:48,580
It's been voted upon

1606
02:18:51,370 --> 02:18:52,350
in the 7. We

1607
02:18:57,050 --> 02:19:06,940
can't change what's been done. Okay? So, article 8.

1608
02:19:06,940 --> 02:19:14,980
Article 8, shall the town provide notice of the availability of the annual report by postcard

1609
02:19:14,980 --> 02:19:21,720
mail to all registered voters, at least 30 days before the annual meeting, instead of

1610
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:28,320
mailing or otherwise distributing the report to the voters of the town, pursuant to 24

1611
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:38,920
for Mont Statutes, annotated section 1682A. Is there a motion? It's been moved second. It's been

1612
02:19:38,920 --> 02:19:46,040
seconded. All right, automatically it has been moved in second. It's like when any comments you'd

1613
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:53,720
like to make about, this is apparently a recently enacted statute by the legislature to perhaps

1614
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:56,080
to save the town some money.

1615
02:19:58,130 --> 02:19:58,850
Thank you, Jerry.

1616
02:20:00,690 --> 02:20:03,270
So the town spends about $10,000 a year

1617
02:20:03,270 --> 02:20:05,610
printing and mailing the town reports.

1618
02:20:06,670 --> 02:20:10,970
And we could get maybe 150, 100, 250 people

1619
02:20:10,970 --> 02:20:12,230
who show up for town meeting.

1620
02:20:12,970 --> 02:20:16,370
So the question is, are we wasting the town's money

1621
02:20:16,370 --> 02:20:17,810
and are we wasting resources

1622
02:20:17,810 --> 02:20:22,570
by printing and mailing town reports to so many people?

1623
02:20:23,310 --> 02:20:27,390
With this, we can mail at a postcard, let people know that time reports are available.

1624
02:20:27,690 --> 02:20:33,350
People can request for the time reports to be mailed to them, or they can come into the town offices and pick up a time report.

1625
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:41,020
Any other questions? Yes sir.

1626
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:49,880
So the postcards that comes out will come out, how far in advance of town meeting?

1627
02:20:52,070 --> 02:20:55,330
And that report will be available immediately at the upon receipt of those postcards?

1628
02:20:56,330 --> 02:20:56,710
I'm sorry.

1629
02:20:57,350 --> 02:21:01,730
that report will be available immediately upon receipt of those postcards.

1630
02:21:03,330 --> 02:21:09,530
Well, I guess my question is, are we going to benefit by getting the information 30 days earlier or not?

1631
02:21:16,850 --> 02:21:20,570
Because currently, the town report comes out about a week and a half ahead of town meeting

1632
02:21:20,570 --> 02:21:25,770
and doesn't give a lot of people all of time to digest all the information in there,

1633
02:21:25,830 --> 02:21:31,730
given the size and scope and growth of town government and bureaucracy contained there in.

1634
02:21:31,730 --> 02:21:38,850
So, earlier getting the reports would be a great benefit to the community, and that's the reason I support this.

1635
02:21:39,010 --> 02:21:45,930
I don't care about the expense. I care about getting the stuff in time to be able to digest it and act on it.

1636
02:21:50,500 --> 02:21:59,280
Other questions, yes, John, and then I'll get to use it a quick one might impression is that this would not affect the timing of the availability of the information.

1637
02:22:01,820 --> 02:22:05,960
Gentlemen in the back there, who had your hand raised yes.

1638
02:22:09,700 --> 02:22:10,420
Yeah.

1639
02:22:12,380 --> 02:22:17,940
Yeah, it's available online, probably way before the books come out.

1640
02:22:18,700 --> 02:22:21,640
Well, never mind.

1641
02:22:25,940 --> 02:22:28,080
Maybe shortly before the books come out.

1642
02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:29,060
Good.

1643
02:22:31,070 --> 02:22:42,070
So, I'd be in favor of this, too, just because with the way things go with the postal service currently, like it took forever to get this to our house.

1644
02:22:43,590 --> 02:22:50,450
So, I'd rather than I put it in the postal services hands at this point to trying it to me at a timely fashion given as he said,

1645
02:22:50,590 --> 02:22:58,630
there's a lot more to read, a lot more to consider, and so being able to say hey, hey, I can go by the town office and rather download it online.

1646
02:23:01,210 --> 02:23:01,970
You're Jenny?

1647
02:23:02,950 --> 02:23:04,170
And then I'll get to you Steve.

1648
02:23:04,530 --> 02:23:04,770
I haven't.

1649
02:23:05,410 --> 02:23:06,990
I haven't been to you forever.

1650
02:23:07,430 --> 02:23:07,530
Yeah.

1651
02:23:08,530 --> 02:23:14,710
The only thing that I'd like to have is that I think you would be important to have the town report available other places.

1652
02:23:14,970 --> 02:23:15,990
Maybe the school.

1653
02:23:16,450 --> 02:23:17,510
Maybe at recycling.

1654
02:23:18,090 --> 02:23:23,690
Because I think what this would result in this human people getting the town report would not be a good result.

1655
02:23:24,330 --> 02:23:27,330
So if we couldn't maybe there's going to be a new general store.

1656
02:23:27,330 --> 02:23:34,410
maybe in town, that could be maybe of the garage, maybe, I don't know, other places, but

1657
02:23:34,410 --> 02:23:37,730
somewhere other than just one place.

1658
02:23:39,730 --> 02:23:41,170
Jill in the back,

1659
02:23:45,220 --> 02:23:46,200
it's been spent.

1660
02:23:47,340 --> 02:23:51,000
If you think in charge of you to count on four, if you think four starts, don't be in order.

1661
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:17,100
There's about 1850 registered voters in town, and we had about maybe 130 folks show up, so you can kind of do the math.

1662
02:24:17,100 --> 02:24:25,880
There are 17,000, there are about buckets that got mailed to folks who, you know,

1663
02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:28,100
this is the pilot who show up for town name.

1664
02:24:28,180 --> 02:24:29,100
Good, Steve.

1665
02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:34,980
So we don't, we don't send a kind of report to every registered motor.

1666
02:24:35,380 --> 02:24:36,620
We send a ton of households.

1667
02:24:37,640 --> 02:24:39,860
But the equivalent is this.

1668
02:24:39,860 --> 02:24:44,380
This used to get sent to every voter in London,

1669
02:24:45,720 --> 02:24:47,820
well, with some exceptions.

1670
02:24:48,620 --> 02:24:51,460
But this is the annual report from a USD.

1671
02:24:52,180 --> 02:24:53,520
This is what it would be like.

1672
02:24:53,660 --> 02:24:56,380
You guys would be something that you would

1673
02:24:56,380 --> 02:24:59,100
come and pick up on town meeting dates.

1674
02:24:59,420 --> 02:25:04,640
I think this sent to every voter every household in London

1675
02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:06,640
is about community engagement.

1676
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:09,540
It's not about whether or not they come to town meeting.

1677
02:25:10,140 --> 02:25:14,340
This is a really great, great community resource.

1678
02:25:15,260 --> 02:25:18,380
I would be in favor of continuing our current policy.

1679
02:25:18,980 --> 02:25:19,640
Thank you.

1680
02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:21,640
Okay.

1681
02:25:21,900 --> 02:25:22,520
Other questions?

1682
02:25:22,660 --> 02:25:24,060
Comments under article 8.

1683
02:25:26,260 --> 02:25:27,320
Ready for the vote?

1684
02:25:27,620 --> 02:25:28,280
Can I take a comment?

1685
02:25:28,880 --> 02:25:29,040
Oh.

1686
02:25:29,480 --> 02:25:29,620
Sorry.

1687
02:25:29,960 --> 02:25:30,220
Go ahead.

1688
02:25:30,300 --> 02:25:34,340
My self-enrading truck 17 boxes from the post office of those things.

1689
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:41,340
850 up the correct and it costs a town how much to do this every year?

1690
02:25:41,660 --> 02:25:46,100
10,000 dollars okay and everybody's environmentally concerned so we don't

1691
02:25:46,100 --> 02:25:50,200
want to waste the trees right so wouldn't it be better if we it is hung on the

1692
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:58,200
SharePoint or the portal of the town's website correct okay so wouldn't it be

1693
02:25:58,200 --> 02:26:03,200
more efficient if we said the town reports are out you can either download it

1694
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:08,140
yourself and bring your laptop to the meeting, you can ask for it to be printed by the town

1695
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:14,360
or you can print it yourself or, and if you can't come to the town office to pick it up

1696
02:26:14,360 --> 02:26:15,040
will mail it to you.

1697
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:20,640
With that great, we reduce the number of town reports we produce and it will still give us

1698
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:24,160
a community engagement because it's still out there somewhere, but we wouldn't have the

1699
02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:30,260
print, 850 of them haven't said me and Randy up there once a year to try to mail them.

1700
02:26:30,260 --> 02:26:34,480
Right? The shower was involved in that pulpy asco, it's involved for chewing all the coats of

1701
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:38,720
masks for a mine's fur, and I could see that it's looking out on us, and we're on

1702
02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:41,500
Sharon's side, and I got two free lunches out of Rianni out of it.

1703
02:26:44,940 --> 02:26:46,400
Okay. Just a recommendation.

1704
02:26:47,460 --> 02:26:51,380
The thought, maybe cut down the cost to here. You know, we're talking a bit of a million

1705
02:26:51,380 --> 02:26:57,220
dollars, we're building a road. Well, could we save $7,000 to put towards that road to

1706
02:26:57,220 --> 02:26:59,460
put a sign on the end of it, or something like that?

1707
02:26:59,460 --> 02:27:00,300
My thoughts.

1708
02:27:00,780 --> 02:27:01,460
Yes, sir.

1709
02:27:01,560 --> 02:27:05,240
I got a, maybe a amendment to this.

1710
02:27:05,580 --> 02:27:12,640
Maybe we should send postcards out that we will be returned to the town and the people

1711
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:18,140
who don't want a town report can say I don't want a town report and the people who do

1712
02:27:18,140 --> 02:27:23,220
want a town report, they're postcards will say I want a town report that we only have

1713
02:27:23,220 --> 02:27:27,660
to print so many town reports rather than say you know.

1714
02:27:27,660 --> 02:27:33,420
Yeah, unfortunately, the chair cannot accept the proposed amendment because, unfortunately,

1715
02:27:33,980 --> 02:27:40,320
the article is pursuant to a state statute and the article is drafted in such a way

1716
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:46,520
as to follow the law and what you're proposing is something that's not included in the statute.

1717
02:27:47,340 --> 02:27:53,980
That's probably something you could bring up under advisory motion as a, you know, advice

1718
02:27:53,980 --> 02:27:57,220
to the town about how to implement it, but you can't.

1719
02:27:57,220 --> 02:28:00,420
You can't change the statute, so I can't allow the amendment.

1720
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:05,360
Okay, well, secondly, I might go on to the next article, but I'm sorry.

1721
02:28:05,700 --> 02:28:13,120
Last year, at town meeting, I asked that the town we put it in, big enough so you could

1722
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:19,140
read it without magnifying glass, and most of it was this year, except for winning, got

1723
02:28:19,140 --> 02:28:25,100
to the dollars and cents of the budget, and it's really small, and I'd like to see that

1724
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:30,840
We can read it next year without a magnifying glass, but thank you.

1725
02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:33,320
I think the select board heard you on that.

1726
02:28:33,360 --> 02:28:34,200
Yes, ma'am?

1727
02:28:40,380 --> 02:28:41,180
Debt gainer.

1728
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:47,200
I would like to emphasize the fact that the town report is more than just bringing people out to town meaning.

1729
02:28:47,420 --> 02:28:51,900
It contains reports from every committee and every commission in town.

1730
02:28:52,200 --> 02:28:59,860
It contains a lot of information about what their activities are and calls for donations and volunteer activity.

1731
02:28:59,860 --> 02:29:08,240
And provides information for the progress that is being made by the committees that we're all volunteers on.

1732
02:29:09,020 --> 02:29:11,900
So it's not just about coming out to vote.

1733
02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:15,740
It's also about what the town is that we're all part of.

1734
02:29:15,960 --> 02:29:16,260
Thank you.

1735
02:29:18,610 --> 02:29:22,570
Okay. Other questions or comments under Article 8?

1736
02:29:24,390 --> 02:29:27,470
Are we going to vote?

1737
02:29:27,470 --> 02:29:32,810
notice that the availability of the interim report by postcard may have all registered voters

1738
02:29:32,810 --> 02:29:38,090
at least 30 days before the annual meeting, instead of mailing or otherwise distributing

1739
02:29:38,090 --> 02:29:46,590
the report to the voters at the town for 7 to 24 for months that you've annotated section 1682

1740
02:29:46,590 --> 02:29:51,950
sub-paragraph A. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

1741
02:29:51,950 --> 02:29:55,890
All those brothers signify by saying no

1742
02:30:00,690 --> 02:30:30,670
All right, let's do a division of the House. The division of the House is we're going to count hands or actually, it's probably easier with people, well, yeah, no people standing. Yeah, well, except we got people standing in the back. So that doesn't work. Some people don't want to sit. So we're going to raise hands. All those in favor of Article 8, please raise your hand.

1743
02:30:30,690 --> 02:30:34,730
for the civil authority, your responsibility to count.

1744
02:30:38,570 --> 02:30:41,990
Well, I don't know how many for the civil authorities are here,

1745
02:30:42,730 --> 02:30:45,570
but yeah, the select board's part a bit short.

1746
02:30:49,170 --> 02:30:51,050
Yeah, yeah, split it up.

1747
02:30:52,980 --> 02:30:55,660
Just one hand, just one hand.

1748
02:30:57,340 --> 02:30:58,660
No two hand voting.

1749
02:31:05,440 --> 02:31:07,880
Yeah, keep your hands up until I tell you to lower.

1750
02:31:13,540 --> 02:31:15,780
This is in favor of article 8.

1751
02:31:44,270 --> 02:31:45,890
Okay, you can lower your hands.

1752
02:31:49,790 --> 02:31:52,990
All those opposed, please raise one hand.

1753
02:32:03,950 --> 02:32:05,870
Keep them up if you want to count it.

1754
02:32:53,690 --> 02:32:55,330
Okay, but your hands down folks.

1755
02:32:55,990 --> 02:32:59,830
Aye. Article 8. Yes.

1756
02:33:02,180 --> 02:33:05,220
In February 16, opposed for three.

1757
02:33:06,060 --> 02:33:13,920
Article 8. Gary's. Article 9. To transact any other business property come before this meeting.

1758
02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:29,180
This is the so called advisory motion, opportunity can't take any binding town action under this article, but if you've got suggestions or thoughts for the select board or just comment you'd like to make

1759
02:33:29,180 --> 02:33:34,940
Yes, ma'am, and then I'll get to you Jessica. Yes, ma'am. Come on up. Grab a mic.

1760
02:33:38,780 --> 02:33:46,120
As some of you may know, there's been an ongoing attempt to approve the agricultural literacy of the

1761
02:33:46,120 --> 02:33:54,080
kids in Monten, also the agricultural literacy of the adults in Monten, and we have there's a writing

1762
02:33:54,080 --> 02:34:03,100
contest every year, farmers in Monten. We have noticed over the past 25 or 30 years that the contest has been running less

1763
02:34:03,100 --> 02:34:10,200
knowledge about what is going on in town. I work culturally, what's grown here, who's doing that.

1764
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:18,820
And so we have a new project which is to record anybody farmers or former farmers or children

1765
02:34:18,820 --> 02:34:25,120
of farmers who would like to be recorded sort of a story core kind of thing and more

1766
02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:30,300
and higher than myself are getting trained to do this. We are definitely not experts. We've

1767
02:34:30,300 --> 02:34:31,940
to introduce so far.

1768
02:34:32,260 --> 02:34:35,680
The hope with this is that the interviews will be,

1769
02:34:35,680 --> 02:34:40,340
the recordings will be at the Hunting Historical Society

1770
02:34:40,340 --> 02:34:42,580
in the Library available through the school

1771
02:34:42,580 --> 02:34:43,360
and also there.

1772
02:34:43,820 --> 02:34:47,500
So anybody who would like to be interviewed, contact me

1773
02:34:47,500 --> 02:34:50,760
or Lauren, or you can volunteer your relatives,

1774
02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:52,340
if you want to.

1775
02:34:52,740 --> 02:34:55,600
Will come to your houses, or we've permitted the library,

1776
02:34:56,000 --> 02:34:56,400
whatever you'd like.

1777
02:34:56,500 --> 02:35:00,220
There's a sign-up sheet at the Historical Society table,

1778
02:35:00,220 --> 02:35:03,760
And I'm sure that I'll be giving further opportunities.

1779
02:35:04,900 --> 02:35:06,060
I'll be bugging people.

1780
02:35:06,640 --> 02:35:08,340
Thank you.

1781
02:35:08,800 --> 02:35:09,400
Jessica?

1782
02:35:12,970 --> 02:35:19,350
I wasn't able to comment on the article that we had voted on about Piney Woods Road.

1783
02:35:19,850 --> 02:35:24,110
I heard that there were questions on the floor about why the vote was advisory only.

1784
02:35:24,110 --> 02:35:33,410
And state law gives select boards the legal means to take care of the roads as they see fit.

1785
02:35:33,410 --> 02:35:36,570
We're charged with keeping the roads safe and keeping the roads open.

1786
02:35:37,950 --> 02:35:38,930
So it's not arbitrary.

1787
02:35:49,010 --> 02:35:58,030
I just wanted to sort of rise and, you know, Bill Joes was our treacherous for 13 years.

1788
02:35:58,030 --> 02:36:02,450
before that, he was the liquid, he was our assistant treacher.

1789
02:36:03,010 --> 02:36:07,310
He really got thrown into the fire when Chuck Roomis

1790
02:36:07,310 --> 02:36:15,110
had treachery left and he sort of trained himself as he went.

1791
02:36:15,430 --> 02:36:19,870
And I just wanted to recognize his years of service

1792
02:36:19,870 --> 02:36:22,370
and give my appreciation.

1793
02:36:36,910 --> 02:36:39,370
I actually look forward to the select board coming back

1794
02:36:39,370 --> 02:36:45,510
giving us more details on Piney Woods Road and keeping us all in form. I know it's not an easy decision.

1795
02:36:46,650 --> 02:36:51,790
And I hope you're able to keep the character so it's not the only major third way in our town.

1796
02:36:52,650 --> 02:37:03,450
At the same time, I'd like to say that as a recommendation, there are people in our town and as a first response that we can't get to and less we go to another town.

1797
02:37:03,450 --> 02:37:06,470
So as we're looking at roads, and I know you always do

1798
02:37:07,470 --> 02:37:15,410
Why can't we get to Jockey Lane from our own town and if we're looking at roads to open, we need more North South

1799
02:37:16,050 --> 02:37:22,110
Corridor's not less and we used to have North South Corridors, but we seem to have run a few of them up

1800
02:37:22,110 --> 02:37:28,130
I mean, I literally had to re-devert somebody who bought the nickels roads still went through when they were responding

1801
02:37:28,130 --> 02:37:29,870
New work on get anywhere

1802
02:37:30,750 --> 02:37:35,670
But, you know, as we look at roads, there's a lot about the roads that could be looked at, so.

1803
02:37:40,260 --> 02:37:41,520
But, yes, in the back.

1804
02:37:46,880 --> 02:37:49,260
I'm Laura, I'm from States Prison Hall of Rotten.

1805
02:37:50,240 --> 02:37:59,500
My name is, and I have the same sentiment, and we really like to thank the current road crew for how well they've kept our road this winter.

1806
02:37:59,500 --> 02:38:07,420
I know it's been really challenging, and I just wanted to recognize that this is a great crew. It hasn't seen this good since Wayne left.

1807
02:38:07,420 --> 02:38:09,160
Thank you.

1808
02:38:18,190 --> 02:38:19,790
Hi, Kathy Sharmino.

1809
02:38:20,650 --> 02:38:24,790
Now that the treasure is stepped down and we're looking for new one.

1810
02:38:24,890 --> 02:38:28,810
I was wondering if we're going to have an audit done of our books.

1811
02:38:29,750 --> 02:38:32,590
And how far back you will be doing that.

1812
02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:36,510
I did listen to the last select board meeting, the recording,

1813
02:38:37,890 --> 02:38:41,930
and there were issues that were brought up with our

1814
02:38:41,930 --> 02:38:50,890
account reports that were incorrect, specifically the capital projects and other funds,

1815
02:38:51,750 --> 02:38:59,650
where they were describing the end of 2023 started out with a plus 71,000, the start of

1816
02:38:59,650 --> 02:39:09,110
2024 started at a negative 69,000, the end of 2024 ended at a negative 10,000, the start

1817
02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:17,390
225 was plus 126,000 and that it was zero times lapse mean and whatever ended in the prior

1818
02:39:17,390 --> 02:39:24,530
year should be the start of the next year and this hasn't been happening since at least 2023

1819
02:39:24,530 --> 02:39:31,570
if not before. And I believe I heard the last audit was when there was a bond for the new

1820
02:39:31,570 --> 02:39:32,890
down hauling 2020.

1821
02:39:33,950 --> 02:39:39,830
So I would like to suggest that we go back at least to the last audit.

1822
02:39:40,770 --> 02:39:42,330
And wonder if that's going to be done.

1823
02:39:43,330 --> 02:39:43,950
Great questions.

1824
02:39:44,070 --> 02:39:44,550
Thank you.

1825
02:39:44,910 --> 02:39:45,270
Yes.

1826
02:39:45,550 --> 02:39:46,790
There is a budget for an audit.

1827
02:39:46,850 --> 02:39:48,170
I believe it's 35,000.

1828
02:39:48,310 --> 02:39:51,030
We've said it's 25,000 to set aside for it.

1829
02:39:51,070 --> 02:39:56,010
We're going to be getting bids from different municipal auditing firms of which they're not

1830
02:39:56,010 --> 02:39:58,410
a ton, so we'll be getting bids.

1831
02:39:58,410 --> 02:40:00,870
and then in the RFP, which is on our town website,

1832
02:40:01,410 --> 02:40:03,610
there is the option for them to bid on subsequent years,

1833
02:40:04,230 --> 02:40:05,530
but I mean, some of that it's going to be

1834
02:40:05,530 --> 02:40:06,870
seeing what the contracts come in.

1835
02:40:06,970 --> 02:40:08,550
And if we're able to do more years back

1836
02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:11,210
than the budget, then we'll do the best we can.

1837
02:40:12,010 --> 02:40:13,810
So folks are going to be betting on it.

1838
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:14,410
My name

1839
02:40:45,770 --> 02:40:49,930
is Mark Gilmett, and I'm just wondering

1840
02:40:49,930 --> 02:40:53,830
what the town highway, if we have any maintenance procedures,

1841
02:40:54,070 --> 02:40:55,050
in effect,

1842
02:40:57,230 --> 02:40:58,850
I hear that there's a,

1843
02:40:58,850 --> 02:41:05,810
Transmission shot and one of the trucks and I don't know if that truck goes in for an inspection once in a while

1844
02:41:06,370 --> 02:41:08,070
Like a statement's faction

1845
02:41:09,010 --> 02:41:14,510
Transmission lines went hold it up but most people would advise to get the transmission lines repaired

1846
02:41:14,990 --> 02:41:16,750
Before we just blow up the transmission

1847
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:20,940
It also sounded like we tried to tell a select board that

1848
02:41:22,190 --> 02:41:27,490
It didn't only take out the transmission, but it took out the wearing you took out the chance for a case and it took out the rear end

1849
02:41:27,490 --> 02:41:33,590
Look, I don't see how a transmission can take everything else out, and I think some stuff

1850
02:41:33,590 --> 02:41:40,630
is presented to the board that's way more serious than it actually is.

1851
02:41:41,730 --> 02:41:45,790
I don't know, it seems like if somebody had changed oil in the truck, they would have

1852
02:41:45,790 --> 02:41:50,190
noticed that the transmission lines were leaking, dripping on the floor at highly doubt that

1853
02:41:50,190 --> 02:41:51,930
it just plain sheer it off.

1854
02:41:54,630 --> 02:41:56,690
And now if we're gonna get a new grader,

1855
02:41:57,030 --> 02:41:58,950
is anybody gonna change oil in it?

1856
02:41:59,150 --> 02:42:00,850
Is anybody gonna run around with a grease gun

1857
02:42:00,850 --> 02:42:01,950
before use?

1858
02:42:02,490 --> 02:42:06,270
Do we have anybody in the town garage

1859
02:42:06,270 --> 02:42:08,450
that does any servicing or has the abilities

1860
02:42:08,450 --> 02:42:09,670
to do any servicing?

1861
02:42:10,330 --> 02:42:12,510
Do we need a mechanic one day a week?

1862
02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:14,550
Catch up on some loose ends?

1863
02:42:15,590 --> 02:42:19,370
I don't know the answer, but little disappointed.

1864
02:42:19,370 --> 02:42:24,090
And this truck wasn't even due for another four-year sounds like,

1865
02:42:26,190 --> 02:42:27,030
and buying a transmission

1866
02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:27,830
is expensive.

1867
02:42:28,050 --> 02:42:35,150
Absolutely no doubt, but rust on a truck and stuff, and I guess it was a used truck.

1868
02:42:35,310 --> 02:42:41,670
I don't really know all the details, and I also would like to know, like, I don't think

1869
02:42:41,670 --> 02:42:47,630
that the town should be allowing the road commissioner to drive around with his truck,

1870
02:42:48,490 --> 02:42:54,770
Transporting the crew around. I think it's an absolute liability. I have lived an absolute nightmare

1871
02:42:54,770 --> 02:43:01,610
I know more about law suits in the last four years and in judges and everything else

1872
02:43:01,610 --> 02:43:07,250
I don't think it's proper for him to be transported and if something happens to his truck

1873
02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:09,790
Well, that's a whole another issue

1874
02:43:10,910 --> 02:43:16,830
I'm just surprised at the town of Munkton doesn't have a backup of vehicle whether it's a vehicle for

1875
02:43:16,830 --> 02:43:26,070
the zoning administrator to go check out places, the state troop, the JOL or whoever to go out and check driveway

1876
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:34,670
curb cuts, the town employees there for the highway to get to work on another job somewhere,

1877
02:43:35,550 --> 02:43:41,650
and just surprise we don't have a backup vehicle. And those are my thoughts and a little

1878
02:43:41,650 --> 02:43:44,230
to this point, whether the transmission and that truck

1879
02:43:46,660 --> 02:43:48,800
can answer one of those questions.

1880
02:43:56,870 --> 02:44:00,750
So to answer your questions as far as the maintenance goes on the vehicles, since I've

1881
02:44:00,750 --> 02:44:06,170
taken over, I got a whole vehicle maintenance sheet where all of our trucks have specific pre-trip

1882
02:44:06,170 --> 02:44:10,210
checks that we have to go through. When we do maintenance on the vehicle, everything's written down.

1883
02:44:10,650 --> 02:44:15,970
So I have binders that show, you know, if the trucks do it, 350 hours, this is one of the trucks

1884
02:44:15,970 --> 02:44:21,090
do, this is what we did on the service, we write all that down now. So all that's all in there,

1885
02:44:21,090 --> 02:44:26,150
have everything written down. As far as the transmission line goes that, that was the previous

1886
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:31,350
employer that happened all of his and his yard that he had ever before. So what led up to that,

1887
02:44:31,350 --> 02:44:36,310
I'm not entirely sure, but that's just what we picked up on that from that truck coming back

1888
02:44:36,310 --> 02:44:40,910
because I had to go help him try to get the truck here and that's what we found as a transmission line

1889
02:44:40,910 --> 02:44:44,510
which just brought an off and just laying on the ground with no fluid left in the transmission.

1890
02:44:45,450 --> 02:44:50,890
The only reason we're saying on that truck going to the truck that we're thinking about the rear

1891
02:44:50,890 --> 02:44:54,450
being damaged, we're thinking about the transfer case being damaged is we hooked up a dealership

1892
02:44:54,450 --> 02:44:59,970
scanner tool and it's throwing codes for all of these components. So it could just-

1893
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:05,140
This would be a sensor saying that, you know, the transmission slips and I was showing wheel speed sensors wrong.

1894
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:08,580
That could just be because it shows that the rear end is going fast in the front end.

1895
02:45:08,620 --> 02:45:14,340
That could be simple like that. We don't know. That's why we're bringing it to a dealership on Tuesday morning.

1896
02:45:14,940 --> 02:45:19,860
Get their full spec on and then we're bringing it to a second shop following that to the second opinion on it.

1897
02:45:19,860 --> 02:45:26,360
See which one will give us a better price. So as far as maintenance goes, going back to that, the highway crew, we do all of our maintenance.

1898
02:45:26,360 --> 02:45:32,700
I have training procedures, I have procedures on how to do everything, everything written up on how we should be doing it.

1899
02:45:32,960 --> 02:45:38,040
And then following it to that exact line and make sure that everything does get done the way that it should be.

1900
02:45:38,280 --> 02:45:44,560
That includes the pre-trip inspections, the annual inspections, and the actual services of the vehicles.

1901
02:45:45,340 --> 02:45:51,680
Any vehicles that we have for state inspections are GMC goes to smaller shots because smaller shots can do it.

1902
02:45:51,680 --> 02:45:55,860
all of our bigger equipment has to go to bigger dealerships that the proper licensing

1903
02:45:55,860 --> 02:46:00,660
to do that. It's all of our equipment will be getting the required state inspection

1904
02:46:00,660 --> 02:46:06,220
to make sure that they're safe and legal for our roads, but we're just getting caught up on that

1905
02:46:06,220 --> 02:46:11,020
right now. Some things that weren't done in the past that are getting done now, we're playing a little

1906
02:46:11,020 --> 02:46:14,540
bit of catch up on it. So it will get better, there will be more behind it.

1907
02:46:19,470 --> 02:46:20,910
Um, you want to follow up?

1908
02:46:24,530 --> 02:46:28,850
Look, I'm not really trying to get at about the state inspection stuff. I'm just saying that when

1909
02:46:28,850 --> 02:46:34,710
the truck went to a state inspection facility or if somebody was calling underneath the truck

1910
02:46:35,270 --> 02:46:39,230
seems like the transmission lines would have been noticed for rust.

1911
02:46:41,150 --> 02:46:46,350
I'm not sure in this guy's name if it's Trevor or what but the road boardman's name

1912
02:46:47,660 --> 02:46:50,320
well they have so much work to do out on the highway.

1913
02:46:51,360 --> 02:46:52,420
They've got ditches.

1914
02:46:52,420 --> 02:46:56,960
They've got complaints from everybody that lives on a dirt road.

1915
02:46:56,960 --> 02:46:58,500
They've got complaints for snow plowing.

1916
02:46:58,700 --> 02:47:00,520
They've got so many complaints to deal with.

1917
02:47:00,620 --> 02:47:02,540
So many places to be.

1918
02:47:02,760 --> 02:47:05,020
They only got four on the cruise sounds like.

1919
02:47:05,520 --> 02:47:10,020
They don't have time to stay in the shop and loop trucks

1920
02:47:10,020 --> 02:47:13,460
and check cool it and you never

1921
02:47:13,460 --> 02:47:14,800
are going to get the road snow plowed.

1922
02:47:15,200 --> 02:47:19,180
And somehow, these trucks are going by my house every hour.

1923
02:47:19,300 --> 02:47:22,240
One to talk to a clock, three to talk, four to talk, five to talk.

1924
02:47:22,440 --> 02:47:22,940
Still plowing.

1925
02:47:25,420 --> 02:47:30,000
They need grease and they need the fluids checked and we need to be looking and see if the

1926
02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:33,280
brake line is eroded out of the transmission line is eroded out so we can prevent the

1927
02:47:35,180 --> 02:47:41,780
future accidents, incidents, or what, no, I don't know, yeah, maybe there was a previous

1928
02:47:41,780 --> 02:47:46,900
team but look at everybody on the highway department, I'm sure they're not really mechanics.

1929
02:47:47,900 --> 02:47:54,110
And I'm not saying anything about them, maybe they're, maybe they're great but, and

1930
02:47:54,110 --> 02:47:56,150
I'm not saying to him about myself being a mechanic.

1931
02:47:56,310 --> 02:48:05,950
I'm just saying that really this way is a transmission length went from this truck in the transmission going to cost so much money to fix and now we're just going to cost up 70,000 per another truck.

1932
02:48:06,310 --> 02:48:08,590
In Trevor treats money like it's cheap.

1933
02:48:09,170 --> 02:48:16,090
The public, that truck would cost 87,000, but to us because we're admitted to the quality, it's only 72,000, so it's just no big deal.

1934
02:48:17,270 --> 02:48:18,710
I think it's a big deal.

1935
02:48:19,090 --> 02:48:21,810
And that's about all I got to say on it.

1936
02:48:21,810 --> 02:48:24,410
All right, any other questions or comments?

1937
02:48:26,250 --> 02:48:27,750
Chair would entertain them.

1938
02:48:27,930 --> 02:48:28,510
Well, good.

1939
02:48:31,010 --> 02:48:34,270
At some point, the chair would entertain a motion to adjourn.

1940
02:48:35,430 --> 02:48:36,210
Yes, you go.

1941
02:48:36,670 --> 02:48:37,870
I'm quick, as well.

1942
02:48:38,170 --> 02:48:41,490
I just want to say thanks to John for passing this microphone around.

1943
02:48:42,090 --> 02:48:45,830
Versus, I haven't ever been to come up here because the aisles are narrow.

1944
02:48:46,410 --> 02:48:48,350
And I'd like to advise the select board.

1945
02:48:48,590 --> 02:48:49,930
Reach out to the Boy Scouts.

1946
02:48:49,930 --> 02:48:55,670
have a couple of voice counts and a couple of microphones here next year and that would really help a lot.

1947
02:48:55,850 --> 02:49:00,250
I know they couldn't be here this year. They're going to food drive down at the recycling center.

1948
02:49:00,930 --> 02:49:02,930
But I think thanks John and...

1949
02:49:16,980 --> 02:49:20,340
Do a adjourn, signify by saying hi.

1950
02:49:21,540 --> 02:49:24,360
All those opposed, signify by saying now?

1951
02:49:25,940 --> 02:49:27,400
Motion adjourn carries.

1952
02:49:28,620 --> 02:49:30,720
Thanks folks, see you next year.