[0:08] thank you
[0:10] order the Tuesday December 1st and only
[0:13] December meeting
[0:14] at the Monmouth city council and SLS for
[0:16] rotol please counselor Kerry here
[0:19] councilor Guthrie or Melvin full of
[0:21] cookies counselor Johnson that was a
[0:24] good answer
[0:26] here counselor Milligan here councilor
[0:29] Schaefer those cookies are from Phyllis
[0:31] and I'm here thank you healthier
[0:32] supernangel here mayor Oberst here all
[0:36] right for the bike salute please
[0:44] of the United States of America and to
[0:47] the Republic for which it stands one
[0:49] nation under God indivisible with
[0:52] liberty and justice for all
[0:59] are they cool
[1:01] the first Saturday night's consent
[1:03] calendar consisting of the minutes from
[1:05] the council meeting and work session of
[1:06] November 17th I could have a motion to
[1:08] approve those two sets of minutes move
[1:10] approval of both second move and seconded in favor
[1:14] all right I suppose okay so this is one
[1:18] that I always enjoy we have your years
[1:20] of service Awards to give tonight and
[1:23] there are 16 folks to award tonight I
[1:25] don't think quite everybody's here but
[1:27] most people are
[1:29] and um
[1:38] so in order to
[1:40] make this
[1:43] a scene with the process is possible
[1:45] what I like to do is I'll call names if
[1:48] you can start up here I'll go ahead and
[1:49] start reading and if you could kind of
[1:52] join me right here and then I've got
[1:53] treats up here for everybody and uh I'll
[1:56] hand those out and we'll work our way
[1:57] through these
[1:58] um it's always nice to give these Awards
[2:01] and the recognizing the time that folks
[2:04] have put in with this city uh working to
[2:07] make Monument a better place so I'll
[2:09] like to start with Melissa McGill
[2:11] for the five-year service award Melissa
[2:14] started working at the library on April
[2:17] 1st 2010 started as a library assistant
[2:19] one
[2:20] she spent most of her first five years
[2:22] at the library working at the
[2:23] circulation desk assisting patrons with
[2:25] checkout preparing monthly activity
[2:27] calendar coordinating house calls
[2:28] Homebound Program
[2:30] and using her innate creativity to
[2:32] design and decorate the large bulletin
[2:34] board in the children's section of the
[2:35] library recently Melissa was promoted to
[2:38] library assistant too her new duties
[2:40] have her ordering and processing
[2:42] libraries newspapers and magazines
[2:44] ordering and processing music CDs doing
[2:46] some cataloging and still working at the
[2:48] checkout desk Melissa is a friendly face
[2:50] for our patrons and she's always willing
[2:52] to take on new challenges or to help out
[2:54] when needed we're thankful that we've
[2:56] had Melissa as part of a great Library
[2:57] team for five years congratulations
[3:09] I don't think we have room up here for
[3:11] everybody
[3:12] officer Justin Reynolds
[3:17] five years of service for Justin Justin
[3:19] began working for the Monmouth Police
[3:21] Department on September 13 2010. he grew
[3:23] up in the Monmouth Independence area and
[3:25] therefore it was a natural fit I mean he
[3:27] made his decision to Serve and Protect
[3:29] the community his family and friends
[3:30] live in he's a Central High graduate and
[3:32] also holds an associate's degree from
[3:34] Mount Hood Community College Officer
[3:36] Reynolds is a very dedicated patrol
[3:38] officer and has spent most of his career
[3:39] working swing and graveyard shift many
[3:42] words can be used to describe Justin
[3:43] positive eager to learn passionate and
[3:46] compassionate are just a few Justin has
[3:48] a strong desire to help people and is
[3:50] always willing to spend extra time
[3:51] trying to get to the root of a problem
[3:53] in his short career Justin has been
[3:55] recognized and has received the
[3:56] Department's top survival skills award
[3:58] in both 2012 and 14.
[4:01] he and his wife live in the area with
[4:03] their three children and they're
[4:04] graciously serving as foster parents for
[4:06] two young infants thanks for five years
[4:07] of dedication and service to the city of
[4:09] Monmouth
[4:15] all right
[4:22] David Salinas
[4:24] David joined the city of Monmouth public
[4:26] works department as a utility technician
[4:29] in September of 2010 and continue
[4:30] serving in that position prior to
[4:33] joining the city David worked locally as
[4:34] a plumber he's a HomeTown boy having
[4:36] grown up here in Polk County and
[4:38] attended Central High
[4:39] David's skills and talents are greatly
[4:41] appreciated in the operations and
[4:42] maintenance of the city's Water and
[4:43] Wastewater systems as well as streets
[4:45] storm water system and parts maintenance
[4:47] David's Plumbing experience is a valued
[4:49] asset to our Public Works crew skill set
[4:53] David always keeps the crew on their
[4:55] toes with his quick wit and cheerful
[4:56] personality
[4:57] David and his wife Heather celebrated
[4:59] the birth of their first child Landon
[5:01] this summer congratulations and yes
[5:03] David is one proud papa congratulations
[5:05] David on your five years of faithful
[5:07] service to the citizens and community of
[5:08] Monga
[5:15] and then um we have Russ Downer who's
[5:18] not here but I wanted to read his uh
[5:20] citation anyway Russ Downer began his
[5:23] career with Monmouth Power and Light in
[5:24] January of 2010 coming to us as a
[5:27] lineman from for Consumers power and
[5:29] after an imprinted
[5:30] sorry an apprenticeship in construction
[5:34] through IBEW he currently lives in
[5:36] Albany where he has raised three
[5:38] children since his career with Power and
[5:40] Light he's moved from lineman Lyman
[5:42] foreman and then servicemen a position
[5:43] he still holds if you see a bucket truck
[5:45] in Monmouth with Monmouth power and
[5:47] light on the side chances are that would
[5:48] be Russ
[5:49] is also a current member of the city
[5:52] Safety Committee is known not only for a
[5:53] sense of humor but also for his
[5:55] outstanding service and commitment to
[5:56] the residents of Monmouth thank you Russ
[5:58] for your five years of dedication and
[6:00] hard work for the city and as Citizens
[6:01] are appreciated
[6:07] and then we turn to the 10-year Awards
[6:09] and the first one at the top is Phyllis
[6:12] Bowman
[6:13] Phyllis Bowman's first work experience
[6:15] with the city
[6:17] was as an oce work study student she
[6:19] later served 18 months in the police
[6:21] department as a dispatchers after
[6:23] several years in the private sector she
[6:24] returned to the city as planning
[6:26] secretary in early 2006.
[6:28] after a short period of time she took
[6:30] over the responsibilities of the city
[6:32] recorder position and was formally
[6:33] appointed later that year over the past
[6:35] nine years golis has effectively
[6:36] performed the ongoing duties of her
[6:38] position while bringing order to the
[6:40] many many files and documents the city
[6:42] is required to keep she recently
[6:44] spearheaded a long overdue
[6:46] recodification of mindless ordinances
[6:48] and absolutely Herculean task philos
[6:51] also takes care of public relations for
[6:52] the city including preparing the monthly
[6:54] Community notes and maintaining the
[6:56] city's Facebook page she is active in
[6:59] the Oregon Association of Municipal
[7:00] recorders and is serving as the Region 3
[7:04] director and on several committees
[7:05] Phyllis has achieved the designation of
[7:08] Master municipal clerk which requires
[7:10] several hundred hours of Education
[7:12] volunteering and work-related tasks the
[7:14] city of Monmouth has been well served by
[7:16] phyllis's workers recorded over the last
[7:18] 10 years and thank you fellas
[7:24] foreign
[7:26] next up is Mark dunmeyer from the
[7:28] finance department
[7:31] our finance director Mark was hired as
[7:33] the city accountant on October 25th 2005
[7:36] prior to his employment with the city he
[7:38] worked in public accounting and various
[7:40] technical management positions in
[7:43] January 2007 he was promoted to finance
[7:45] director he oversees the department that
[7:47] has a heavy flow of customers service
[7:48] levels are continuously adjusted to
[7:50] maintain excellent customer service Mark
[7:52] always receives High marks for his
[7:54] preparation of the annual City budget as
[7:56] hard work year-round also results in
[7:58] very high quality audits during his 10
[8:01] years Finance director Mark I guided the
[8:03] city through two separate finance and
[8:04] billing software conversions and has
[8:06] worked to continuously improve the
[8:08] Department's operations and Reporting he
[8:10] and his wife are 18-year residents of
[8:12] Monmouth and have three children two of
[8:14] whom are Central High graduates last was
[8:17] still working on it I guess
[8:20] right and as time off he enjoys spending
[8:23] time with his family working on cars and
[8:25] converting and editing Home Videos
[8:26] thanks for minding the books for 10
[8:28] years Mark appreciate it
[8:33] it's also his birthday it's his birthday happy birthday to you mark
[8:40] thank you
[8:42] maybe we'll sing you later Bill Gates
[8:49] not here
[8:50] no okay they use a journeyman lineman
[8:54] since 1985 and a former member of our
[8:55] City Safety Committee he's been a loyal
[8:58] employee from Ramen power and life's
[8:59] life since 2005. he came to us from
[9:02] Consumers power and Alignment
[9:04] apprenticeship through IBEW in Arizona
[9:06] bill and his family settled in Corvallis
[9:09] where they've been living for 23 years
[9:11] he's a dedicated employee and helpful
[9:13] co-worker who's willing to step up and
[9:15] provide his assistance wherever it's
[9:16] needed Bill we thank you for a decade of
[9:18] loyalty and commitment to the city of
[9:20] Monmouth and its citizens
[9:28] Sergeant Isaiah Haynes began working for
[9:30] the Monmouth Police Department in
[9:31] October of 2005 after graduating that
[9:34] year with a bachelor's degree from
[9:36] Western Oregon University and that
[9:38] degree was in social science he has
[9:40] worked as both a patrol officer and as a
[9:42] patrol sergeant and currently served as
[9:44] it serves as the night ship yeah night
[9:47] shift supervisor Sergeant Haynes has
[9:50] been recognized for his outstanding work
[9:52] several times over the past 10 years for
[9:54] example he won the survival skills award
[9:56] twice was named officer of the year in
[9:58] 2007 and was awarded the Monmouth and
[10:01] Oregon Peace Officers Association
[10:03] life-saving award Sergeant Haynes is a
[10:05] natural leader is well respected by the
[10:07] officers he supervises he's taken on
[10:09] numerous complex assignments and always
[10:11] works hard until they're completed this
[10:13] past year Sergeant Haynes dedicated
[10:15] several hours of his time and played a
[10:17] key role in assisting the architect and
[10:19] contractor on the Monmouth Police
[10:20] Station project the city of Monmouth and
[10:23] his citizens are very fortunate to have
[10:24] had his service for a decade and we look
[10:26] forward to many more years of Sergeant
[10:28] Haynes proudly serving his community
[10:34] thank you
[10:36] and then also from the police department
[10:39] circumventors
[10:42] Sergeant Matt Allison began began
[10:44] working for the Monmouth Police
[10:45] Department in April of 2005. he's a
[10:48] graduate of Western Oregon University
[10:50] holding a degree in community crime
[10:52] prevention during the past 10 years Matt
[10:54] has worked as a patrol officer as a
[10:56] detective an investigator with the Polk
[10:57] County interagency Narcotics Team and as
[11:00] a patrol Sergeant Mass currently
[11:02] supervising Patrol officers on day
[11:04] shifts Sergeant Olson has repeatedly
[11:06] been recognized for his outstanding work
[11:08] several times over the last 10 years his
[11:10] Awards include two-time officer of the
[11:13] year a Monmouth and Oregon Peace
[11:15] Officers Association life-saving award
[11:16] and the survival skill award not once
[11:19] not twice but four times
[11:22] last year Sergeant Olsen was
[11:24] instrumental in helping start a pilot
[11:25] program in Independence Elementary
[11:27] School called police Mentor program
[11:29] he along with several officers in
[11:31] Monmouth and Independence are now
[11:33] implementing the mentor program at
[11:35] Monmouth Elementary and Ash Creek
[11:37] Elementary Schools the city of Monmouth
[11:40] and its citizens are very fortunate to
[11:41] have enjoyed Matt's services for the
[11:43] last 10 years
[11:53] and turning to the 15-year Awards
[11:56] Terry Gibson
[11:59] Terry began working for the city of
[12:01] Monmouth public works department as a
[12:03] utility technician August 2000.1
[12:07] I don't play honest a position he
[12:10] currently holds Terry grew up in the
[12:12] Monmouth area and his familiarity with
[12:13] our city constantly pays dividends Terry
[12:16] holds an Oregon level one Wastewater
[12:17] collection certification has assisted
[12:19] with operations and maintenance of both
[12:21] the city water and wastewater systems as
[12:24] well as streets storm water systems and
[12:26] Parks maintenance in addition to
[12:27] spending time with his wife June and Son
[12:29] Travis who's currently attending college
[12:30] Terry enjoys fishing boating and
[12:32] involvement at church Terry's someone
[12:34] you can depend on to complete any job
[12:36] he's given and to do it well
[12:37] congratulations on 15 years of faithful
[12:39] service to the Citizens Community
[12:45] as certificate for you
[12:48] and you'll never lose that one on the
[12:51] job
[12:51] but most importantly
[12:54] oh wow
[12:56] yeah your very own loader
[13:00] officer Mike Hamilton
[13:06] for the Monmouth Police Department on
[13:08] July 1st 2000. he graduated from Western
[13:11] Oregon University in 1998 with a
[13:13] bachelor's degree in law enforcement his
[13:15] minor in Spanish has been a real asset
[13:17] is he is the only bilingual officer for
[13:19] the Department
[13:20] during his 15 years of service Mike has
[13:22] worked as a patrol officer as a uniform
[13:24] detective and served for a period of
[13:25] time as an investigator on the Polk
[13:27] County interagency Narcotics Team
[13:29] in 2008 officer Hamilton received the
[13:32] Monmouth Police Department's officer of
[13:33] the year award in large part due to an
[13:35] in-depth and successful burglary and
[13:37] sexual assault investigation Mike is a
[13:40] dedicated and valuable employee he
[13:42] currently is serving as one of the
[13:43] Department's field training officers and
[13:46] as the Department's Reserve officer
[13:47] coordinator Mike is instrumental in
[13:49] helping train new officers and Reserve
[13:51] officers the city of Monmouth have been
[13:53] well served by having Mike on board for
[13:54] 15 years thanks for your service
[14:06] sticky music
[14:10] on July 1st 2000 Vicki music joined the
[14:13] city of Monmouth office staff as an
[14:15] account Clerk having worked in the
[14:17] banking industry for several years Vicki
[14:19] brought extensive customer service
[14:20] experience to her job her primary focus
[14:23] is to provide assistance to the
[14:24] thousands of customers that come to City
[14:26] Hall each year
[14:27] she also processes most of the thousands
[14:30] of payments received by mail and through
[14:32] the Dropbox each month as longtime
[14:34] residents of Monmouth Vicki and her
[14:36] husband Mark are very committed to our
[14:37] community she and Mark have three sons
[14:39] and she now enjoys being grandmother to
[14:41] three beautiful granddaughters aged 246.
[14:45] she is a compassionate dedicated
[14:46] hard-working individual who loves to
[14:48] laugh her co-workers really appreciate
[14:50] the great attitude and work that work
[14:52] ethic she brings to her job each day and
[14:54] Monmouth citizens have benefited from
[14:56] her 15 years of service
[15:06] thank you
[15:09] um we have one other 15-year service
[15:10] someone who's not here tonight when D
[15:13] Larson she started working at the
[15:15] library in 2000 as a circulation Clerk
[15:18] left briefly to work for the Dallas
[15:20] Public Library and returned when the
[15:21] position became available at the
[15:23] Monmouth Library Dee is responsible for
[15:25] getting new books and media cataloged
[15:27] and process to be Shelf ready
[15:29] she changes the attractive new book
[15:31] display weekly allowing patrons to see
[15:34] what new titles are available perhaps
[15:35] her most critical duty is her
[15:37] coordination of the library's 55 or so
[15:39] volunteers making sure we have people to
[15:42] help process new items show old items
[15:44] and pull items that have been requested
[15:46] by patrons we appreciate these work to
[15:48] make new items available in a very
[15:50] timely manner and her efforts in the
[15:51] care and keeping of our valuable
[15:53] volunteers Monmouth Library patrons
[15:55] appreciate these 15 years of service
[15:57] foreign
[16:04] year Service Awards two folks who are
[16:07] here and one who's not and as I was
[16:10] um working through these these were all
[16:11] written by uh these folks bosses
[16:13] department heads and so on and
[16:16] um but as I read through these and I got
[16:19] to these 20 year ones I was thinking you
[16:20] know nowadays it's kind of unusual for
[16:22] somebody to have the same job for 20
[16:24] years so many people turn over so
[16:25] quickly in so many places so these
[16:28] 20-year Awards and I'd like to start
[16:30] with Mark Landau
[16:36] marked again working for the city of
[16:38] Monmouth as a part-time summer hire in
[16:40] the summer of 1995. three months later
[16:42] he was hired full-time as a utility
[16:44] technician he currently holds the
[16:45] position of Foreman in addition to his
[16:47] employment as a utility technician
[16:49] Marcus also served as interim operations
[16:52] manager on two different occasions Mark
[16:54] holds level two certifications in both
[16:56] Wastewater Collections and water
[16:58] distribution in addition to level one
[17:00] certifications in water treatment and
[17:02] wastewater treatment so you've got the
[17:04] water coming and going don't you yeah
[17:06] Marcus served three terms as the section
[17:08] president and and the Oregon Area
[17:10] Regional director for Pacific Northwest
[17:12] Clean Water Services Association
[17:15] Mark's outside priorities and interests
[17:17] in addition to his wife Annie son Parker
[17:19] and daughter Brenna include an interest
[17:21] in restoring and rebuilding 1967-72
[17:23] Chevy and GMC trucks
[17:26] Mark's many talents broad experience
[17:28] excellent customer relations and
[17:29] personable friendly personality have
[17:31] made him a tremendous asset to the city
[17:32] of Monmouth for the last 20 years
[17:44] now Howard Feldman from the library was
[17:47] unable to be here tonight Howard got his
[17:48] start at Monmouth Public Library by
[17:50] volunteering while he was a student at
[17:52] Western
[17:53] a few years later Howard went back to
[17:55] school to receive his masters of Library
[17:56] science degree he joined the staff in
[17:58] 1995 and has been making a positive
[18:00] impact on the library ever since
[18:03] Howard helps patrons find information
[18:04] troubleshoots computer issues and is our
[18:07] in-house I.T Department answering
[18:09] questions installing software
[18:10] troubleshooting cranky computers etc
[18:12] among his many other duties Howard takes
[18:15] care of the monthly and weekly work
[18:16] schedules compiles the materials orders
[18:18] monitors the entire ordering process and
[18:21] completes the annual State Library
[18:22] statistical report Howard is a quiet
[18:25] calm and reassuring presence in the
[18:27] library and were better for his 20 years
[18:28] of service to this community
[18:34] and last but not least Russ Cooper
[18:41] Russ started his career with the city of
[18:44] Monmouth as a summer summer temporary
[18:46] employee while attending college at
[18:48] Western Oregon University there seems to
[18:50] be a theme in these the number of folks
[18:51] who come to us from Western is amazing
[18:53] through hard work and a commitment to
[18:55] mastering the various trades of Public
[18:56] Works Russ worked his way up through the
[18:58] ranks to operations manager in 2004 Russ
[19:01] filled in as interim Public Works
[19:03] director following the retirement the
[19:04] previous director ultimately being hired
[19:06] to fill that position permanently as one
[19:09] example of the value Russ has brought to
[19:11] his position he's worked very hard
[19:12] updating departmental operating policies
[19:14] and manuals in order to facilitate and
[19:16] streamline Public Works operations the
[19:18] depth and breadth of his talents have
[19:19] been recognized by his peers Russ has
[19:22] been elected vice president of Oregon
[19:23] Association of water utilities Russ is a
[19:26] dedicated city of Monmouth employee who
[19:28] works hard and is not afraid to take on
[19:29] new challenges his experienced
[19:31] management skills and positive attitude
[19:33] should start the city well into the
[19:35] future rest has been described by
[19:37] co-workers as the heart of the Public
[19:38] Works Team Mom within its citizens have
[19:40] been well served by Russ's 20 years of
[19:42] service to the city thanks
[19:47] foreign
[20:11] with all those words having come out so
[20:13] my mayor's report is I haven't really
[20:15] done anything for the last two weeks to
[20:17] service the city so that was quick and
[20:18] easy
[20:19] reports from Council Representatives the
[20:21] boards and commissions councilor Nagel
[20:23] thank you uh I'm a senior Advisory Board
[20:26] met on the 24th of November they have a
[20:30] breakfast coming up this Saturday that's
[20:32] from 8 30 to 10 30.
[20:34] um I believe the goal is to publish the
[20:37] bid for the facility this week called
[20:40] play if all goes well with a bid opening
[20:43] then scheduled for December 30th
[20:46] and
[20:48] let's see
[20:50] they're having some issues with the PA
[20:52] system so they're going to actually
[20:53] spend some money after the upgrade some
[20:55] of the friends dollars boards money to
[20:58] do an upgrade but they're going to wait
[21:00] until after the facility uh process is
[21:03] completed and they're not going to meet
[21:04] in December so their next meeting is
[21:06] scheduled for January 26th
[21:09] thank you councilman elegant arts and
[21:13] culture did not meet in November they
[21:15] assured me they will be meeting in
[21:17] December on the 10th
[21:19] so I'll be at that meeting so how are we
[21:21] on numbers at parks and culture we have
[21:24] people there or do we need yeah well we
[21:26] could use a couple more but we do we can
[21:28] use a couple more if anybody has an
[21:30] interesting
[21:31] yeah thanks Steve councilor Johnson yeah
[21:36] we met uh Planning Commission Matt this
[21:38] month and it was a work session to begin
[21:40] with and then we also discussed uh
[21:43] chickens again this is on a for a PUD I
[21:47] think it is or anyhow and how many per
[21:50] square foot and was discussed pretty Lively at the meeting and we'll
[21:55] be back for some more research and some
[21:56] more information so hopefully at the
[21:58] next meeting we'll be able to whether
[22:00] the next month be able to figure out how
[22:02] many chickens can be over there since
[22:04] it's a bigger area than a normal city
[22:06] law right and we're talking about
[22:07] Edwards Edition and their request to
[22:09] have a sort of group chicken keeping
[22:12] instead Community right okay very good
[22:15] anything else
[22:17] councilor Perry
[22:19] uh Mr Mayor members of the council the
[22:21] mynet board
[22:23] met uh for the first time did not meet
[22:26] in October but met on November 19th uh
[22:29] at volunteer hall right here
[22:32] and uh Greg Ellis was sort of back in
[22:36] the saddle and uh you know he'd been on
[22:38] the my net board and city manager at
[22:40] Independence for some time and it was
[22:42] good to have him
[22:45] um we also got a very interesting report
[22:47] from our new it manager Brian Thurman
[22:50] and Brian is a quite a sharp fellow and
[22:54] was involved with some of the security
[22:56] audits that we had that was conducted uh
[22:59] oh like a year ago I guess but anyway
[23:03] he's uh he is going to be really a
[23:06] valuable asset to us
[23:09] there's been some discussion in in a
[23:12] report from Dawn and then and then we
[23:14] discussed uh sort of at the tertiary
[23:16] level uh ways to expand the the revenue
[23:20] potential for my net uh you all have
[23:23] read the sort of the recalibration of
[23:25] the number of addresses that are
[23:28] actually available on the penetration
[23:30] percentage and so on uh and it became
[23:33] clear that we need to find a new Revenue
[23:35] stream new revenue streams and so there
[23:39] was some discussion on that uh this the
[23:43] finance committee is working on some of
[23:44] the impacts Financial impacts
[23:47] um of expanding our footprint of
[23:49] developing a data center
[23:52] um and then as well as the purchase
[23:53] service model which yet is yet to be
[23:57] sort of hashed out
[24:00] um they did identify that uh uh what the
[24:05] and reported
[24:07] um and I think I almost maybe in the
[24:09] scotch sport I'm not sure but but
[24:11] monmouth's a portion of the debt service
[24:15] for the period ending uh December 1.
[24:20] um will be 409 thousand dollars and I'm
[24:24] not sure if that hit on our projections
[24:25] but I'm assuming it's about what
[24:28] um what we'd anticipated so there's plenty of work to be done I I'm
[24:34] really pretty excited about some of the
[24:35] new people that we had we did have a
[24:37] conversation about the marketing we did
[24:40] a conversation about some of the
[24:42] channels channels that are provided and
[24:45] have been eliminated uh providers are
[24:49] jacking prices fairly dramatically in
[24:51] some instances for for reasons that are
[24:54] unclear but but they nonetheless are so
[24:59] um I I think we're getting closer to a
[25:02] more finite discussion on on increasing
[25:05] our revenue revenue sources uh which
[25:08] would make us much more fiscally uh
[25:09] sound we will meet in December I don't
[25:12] have that date right in front of me but
[25:14] it's I think the third Thursday
[25:17] in December so
[25:20] and that concludes my report for any
[25:22] questions or thanks Tony John did you
[25:26] say that um
[25:28] Brian Thurman's on the border is he a
[25:30] he's a new employee new employee I'm
[25:32] sorry and he's our information
[25:34] technology uh Personnel we had a we had
[25:37] a turnover in that position okay and
[25:39] Brian has filled in with that and uh
[25:42] I've got a lot of ideas a lot of energy
[25:43] sharp guy evidence technician any uh
[25:47] Community announcements tonight
[25:50] I have one
[25:52] Friday
[25:53] we have a parade in town
[25:55] we like one of the tallest living
[25:58] holiday trees in North America and that
[26:01] will be on campus at Western parade
[26:03] starts at six the trees should turn on
[26:06] around 6 30. this will be the first time
[26:08] president Fuller has had the honor of
[26:12] helping put that switch so I'm looking
[26:14] forward to that and then I'll post a
[26:16] turnout for that
[26:17] anybody else
[26:19] you say will be on campus yeah
[26:26] city manager report just a couple items
[26:29] a little bit of development Activity The
[26:31] Stadium Apartments apparently they're
[26:32] actually starting to work again that's
[26:33] what's been kind of fallow for the whole
[26:35] summer but they're they're getting back
[26:36] on that uh mistletoe subdivision that's
[26:38] our new subdivision out very west of
[26:40] town
[26:42] um we're doing something different on
[26:43] that project typically you get all your
[26:45] improvements done then you get your
[26:46] final plot done you can sell Lots with
[26:49] the weather we it was iffy on getting
[26:51] good Paving done so for the first time
[26:53] ever we're actually going to hold the
[26:55] final lift until the spring and start
[26:57] working out some agreements with them so
[26:59] we can let them move forward but then we
[27:01] get a good product at the end so it's
[27:03] something that you know protects our
[27:04] need to maintain the streets in the
[27:06] proper manner for our citizens but then
[27:07] it shows flexibility towards the
[27:09] developer once that get going selling
[27:10] lot so that was a good move all around
[27:12] finalized it
[27:14] um Chuck Thurman and I met with Senator
[27:16] Winters talk about electrical issues
[27:19] electrical industry issues
[27:21] kind of the ongoing us getting drug into
[27:23] a lot of other things that we don't need
[27:24] to be bothered with but that tends to be
[27:27] kind of what's going on at the moment so
[27:28] we had a good discussion with her
[27:30] um a different one did anybody know
[27:32] about these Zimbabwean Music Festival we
[27:34] had last year I discovered it as I
[27:37] walked through campus but that was about
[27:38] it yeah I didn't get advertised a whole
[27:40] bunch I think they were maybe this first
[27:41] time time on site but they um I actually
[27:44] had a discussion with the president kind
[27:45] of working through Steve had a
[27:46] connection floating into him at a good
[27:48] discussion with the president they're
[27:49] coming back in 2016. so we're talking
[27:51] about ways that we can enhance it get
[27:53] the word out better help them out with
[27:54] sponsorship if they can make it work
[27:56] potentially this might become their home
[27:58] base they tend to rotate around the
[28:00] western states and they've been in
[28:01] Corvallis a couple times Portland and
[28:04] California Idaho but um if this kind of
[28:07] works out here so we're hoping we can
[28:08] work with them and get a team put
[28:09] together we can really promote that and
[28:11] make that into a real event to actually
[28:13] be here they get people actually from
[28:15] Zimbabwe I mean people are coming in
[28:17] from around the country but they
[28:18] actually do get artists accustomed to
[28:19] buffering and what time of each summer
[28:22] is that right yes we will have in the
[28:24] amphitheater right now it was in the
[28:26] mid-august yeah so um
[28:31] very good very good
[28:34] is it that's it okay thank you any
[28:36] commit uh any citizen comments tonight
[28:39] hey I'm seeing none we have a one item
[28:41] business agenda tonight and that is yeah
[28:43] sorry
[28:45] yeah and folks those of you who came for
[28:48] years of service I will not take
[28:50] exception if you decide to slip out now
[28:52] okay
[28:54] I won't take it against you we'll hold
[28:57] it against well okay Dunmar you have to
[29:00] stay
[29:04] like you don't do enough hours already
[29:07] right man
[29:08] no I was yeah thanks well good I was
[29:12] thinking wow
[29:16] okay Starting Over Again one item
[29:19] business agenda and that is our solid
[29:20] weight rate adjustment and then if you
[29:22] all want to come up and uh name and city
[29:26] for the record
[29:28] they do some background instrument if I
[29:29] could yeah yeah absolutely just kind of
[29:32] the basic on the agenda we got a rate
[29:33] adjustment requested it's an eight
[29:35] percent rate increase uh we restructured
[29:37] rates as you remember along with
[29:39] services in 2009
[29:41] um we did a great adjustment 2009 I'm
[29:44] sorry 2012.
[29:46] um big drivers at the time or tipping
[29:48] fees of the landfill they keep popping
[29:50] those up although we had good words to
[29:52] actually negotiate so hopefully hold
[29:53] that for at least a little bit but those
[29:55] out pretty well on the insurance repairs
[29:58] and maintenance not just different
[29:59] salaries and so they're they're actually
[30:02] current basically not making money
[30:04] they're not losing money but not really
[30:05] thinking so
[30:07] um they requested the increase you did
[30:08] have a member in your packet that has
[30:10] some more details and then Aston
[30:12] dentists are here if you have any
[30:13] questions and go ahead thank you I'm
[30:15] Estelle Harlan uh Solid Waste Management
[30:17] Consultant
[30:19] f1952 Northeast Spindrift Court Lincoln
[30:21] City Oregon and I've been a long time uh
[30:25] solid ice Management Consultant for
[30:26] Brands and as your city manager just
[30:29] told you we were here in 2009 a bit of
[30:32] history that was in the packet but I
[30:34] think it's important for you to
[30:36] understand that this company has done
[30:38] its best to just stay efficient and
[30:40] effective and has not been in here every
[30:43] year looking for a rate increase so in
[30:46] 2009 they did do program only that was
[30:50] carts the automating carts that was
[30:52] probably the most life-changing for both
[30:54] the community and of our operations for
[30:57] Brands because they were able to get yes
[30:59] the recycling the yard debris and the
[31:02] solid waste program but there was
[31:05] nothing in that year for overall
[31:07] increases it was programs only the the
[31:10] previous last increase was in 2005. so
[31:14] as your city manager said in in 2012 a
[31:18] seven year span there we did come back
[31:20] in then for uh an overall increase for
[31:24] per for
[31:25] operations we were the the 3.78 cents
[31:31] that was uh approved affected February 1
[31:33] 2013 was entirely for the commercial
[31:36] cart recycling program and again that
[31:38] was not for overall operations so that
[31:41] brings us to the status that
[31:43] um that I
[31:46] put in the summary that I itemized in
[31:48] the summary when we were last here for
[31:50] and we were looking at year-end 2012
[31:54] income and expense statements they were
[31:57] at a
[31:58] 0.02 operating margin that's essentially
[32:02] zero and
[32:04] in our pro forma 2016 Year we're at 0.03
[32:08] so we're at essentially back to zero
[32:11] again
[32:13] um the between year and 2012 and 2016
[32:17] Revenue did increase by 9.7 percent but
[32:22] costs increased by 9.6 percent therefore
[32:25] zero that that put us and the the
[32:28] driving factors that uh that did affect
[32:32] the cost
[32:33] uh well one reason why we're a little
[32:37] bit higher in pro forma a little bit
[32:39] more positive than pro forma 2016 than
[32:43] in uh actually you're in 2015 is that
[32:47] we've calculated considerably less
[32:50] depreciation in interest in 2016. they
[32:53] cannot afford to get the new truck that
[32:54] they need to get until they get into a
[32:56] better cash flow position and so
[32:58] depreciation has dropped and that is not
[33:01] a good position a good business position
[33:03] to be in but it has impacted the bottom
[33:06] line
[33:08] uh disposal went up 19 in uh through
[33:13] actual 2015 but we are glad that that
[33:17] we've been able to negotiate a new
[33:18] contract uh Dennis worked very hard with
[33:21] the facility and they're going to be a
[33:24] hold for a year or two uh so that's very
[33:28] good that's very good news because it
[33:29] every year it was going up prior to this
[33:32] new contract and then we've outlined the
[33:35] increases in health insurance General
[33:37] Insurance repairs and maintenance and
[33:39] salaries so to bring their operating
[33:41] margin to a position that reflects a
[33:43] good business policy we are asking for
[33:46] the across the board eight percent that
[33:49] would uh for the most commonly used
[33:51] receptacle which is the 35 gallon cart
[33:54] that would be 1.44 cents per month
[33:59] that's what it would equate to and there
[34:02] is a rate schedule attached that you can
[34:04] see the current rates and the proposed
[34:06] rates if you if you grant this request
[34:09] it's
[34:10] um when you compare it to the CPI over
[34:13] that period of time it almost equals the
[34:15] CPI however we have had costs that have
[34:18] increased greater than the CPI one of
[34:21] the things that's helped is to hold it
[34:22] has been that fuel costs have not
[34:24] increased as rapidly as they were
[34:28] I think one of the most telling things
[34:30] is is the the last the second handout
[34:34] that was in my packet and that is the
[34:37] comparative rate summary and if you look
[34:40] at that they are if if you approve these
[34:43] rates
[34:45] you will be in the very
[34:48] low end of the middle uh of the race if
[34:52] you look just at the cards if you look
[34:54] at the commercial it's the very very low
[34:57] end of rates compared to surrounding
[35:02] cities and what that means is that
[35:05] you're closer to cost of service in
[35:08] Monmouth than some of these other cities
[35:10] that have a
[35:12] subsidy flowing from commercial
[35:15] to residential we've tried hard to to
[35:18] Target programs that's why when we came
[35:21] in here and put in carts we didn't just
[35:23] spread the cost across everything that
[35:26] would have lowered the amount we had to
[35:28] if we if we had spread it across
[35:31] everything it would have lowered the
[35:33] amount that we would have had to have
[35:35] charged for the cards but it wouldn't
[35:37] have been cost of service
[35:39] and so we have tried to keep closer to
[35:41] cost of service here in city of Monmouth
[35:43] and City of Independence and they've
[35:46] also done that in Polk County and so
[35:49] um so they are are low on on
[35:53] um not the lowest but low on on cards
[35:57] but if you look at the subsidy flow
[36:00] there are there are cards are
[36:01] exceptionally reasonable because they
[36:04] don't have the sub the commercial that
[36:06] some of these other cities particularly
[36:08] if you look at Corvallis the first one
[36:09] on there they're able to hold their card
[36:11] rates quite low because they've got
[36:13] quite High commercial
[36:14] and so we believe this request is
[36:17] reasonable and we would respectfully ask
[36:19] that that it be approved eight percent
[36:22] across the board effective January 1
[36:24] 2016.
[36:26] if you have questions we're here to
[36:28] answer them
[36:33] by uh backing off your replacement costs
[36:37] what is going to be repair costs on your
[36:39] equipment is it going to go up eight to
[36:41] ten percent uh
[36:44] probably it went up it went up in this
[36:47] period of time 27.3 and I think one of
[36:50] the things it's telling is whenever you
[36:51] back off of depreciation you're going to
[36:54] pick up repair and maintenance and
[36:55] that's exactly what we're seeing here
[36:57] okay
[36:58] we can't you know we can't forge it
[37:00] that's when the next motor is going to
[37:02] blow or what's going to happen
[37:09] I don't know I don't we don't keep track
[37:11] of the hours the miles is curious is
[37:15] ours
[37:17] about every
[37:18] two and a half months we do 250 hours
[37:22] and not only know that just because
[37:24] that's when I schedule the maintenance
[37:26] okay I was just curious just popped into
[37:29] my head I wonder how many miles
[37:31] although you know we bought a
[37:35] um
[37:36] a Dropbox truck a 95 n95 and we got rid
[37:41] of when we got rid of it here um
[37:43] in 2006 we had 405 000 miles on it wow
[37:49] and had 2500 on it while I picked up
[37:51] before wow so yeah
[37:55] okay
[37:57] lots of stop and go drives yes the
[38:00] ultimate stop to go anybody over here
[38:01] with any questions
[38:02] currently what is the fleet status is it
[38:05] just one rig that's going bad or I mean
[38:08] how many new Uber rigs where are we at
[38:10] they're all getting up there
[38:12] um when we jumped into this cart service
[38:16] we only we could only get so much money
[38:20] between buying the cars the trucks I
[38:23] only bought three automated we got three
[38:25] low dolls they're semi-automated but you
[38:28] still got to get out and hook the carts
[38:30] to the truck to dump them uh that's what
[38:32] I'm hoping for is to get another
[38:34] automated truck would make it more
[38:36] efficient
[38:37] uh it's safer for the driver
[38:41] most of our trucks are in pretty good
[38:43] shape
[38:44] if we get at least one more automated
[38:46] but you know automated trucks are
[38:49] getting more and more expensive
[38:51] because there are probably another 50
[38:53] 000 more than what I bought say back in
[38:56] 2010.
[39:00] I'm also curious in 2009 when
[39:02] um the last raid adjustment happened
[39:04] with and you said it was just focused on
[39:06] the carts alone you know
[39:08] um
[39:09] I'm curious maybe you guys might be able
[39:12] to answer this for me
[39:13] um how are those cards are the the cards
[39:15] purchased was that Brands purchases or
[39:18] is that citizens Merchants no we
[39:20] purchased them in calculated we what we
[39:23] did was we we depreciated the carts over
[39:26] seven years and and uh took just simple
[39:30] math divided the cost by seven
[39:34] and and plugged that into the the
[39:36] service cost
[39:38] that the program comes so that's what
[39:40] the rates were at that time
[39:45] I'm also interested in any programs you
[39:48] guys are currently
[39:50] um doing or thinking about doing in the
[39:53] future near future hopefully to
[39:56] be more environmental friendly is there
[39:59] any options there or where you guys can
[40:02] up to you know recycling of products
[40:07] and where is where are you at on that I
[40:09] know that's a priority in in this you
[40:12] know it is a priority and and you're if I all that all that Dennis uh
[40:19] follow up if he has some some more
[40:22] information but but where we're seeing
[40:25] as an industry
[40:27] is that uh the materials recovery the sales the material sales has tanked
[40:36] so uh that's not a technical word but
[40:38] it's gone down so drastically
[40:41] that some some jurisdictions are some
[40:44] companies and some jurisdictions are
[40:46] actually looking for
[40:48] um plugging in about a 30 loss this year
[40:51] over uh over last year on on material
[40:55] sales in the best of years and I've
[40:59] tracked this now for so
[41:02] this is selling the selling selling the materials that have been
[41:08] separated sore separated
[41:10] it only covers about 10 the sale only
[41:13] covers about 10 percent of the cost of
[41:16] picking it up
[41:17] so back in 1983 when Oregon had the
[41:22] opportunity to recycle act and I was
[41:25] actually part of writing the regulations
[41:27] for that with the Department of
[41:29] Environmental Quality
[41:31] and and it was the decision of this
[41:33] state at that time and it's actually
[41:35] part of the statute that we will pay a
[41:38] premium
[41:39] to do recycling so we know that it's not
[41:43] going to cover the cost
[41:44] and that if there there are
[41:47] jurisdictions particularly on the East
[41:49] Coast where they it's a subscription and
[41:52] you can choose in or out and and they
[41:54] have about a 10 maybe participation rate
[41:57] whereas whereas we have probably closer
[42:00] to 40 here in this County
[42:02] and so you're you're doing really really
[42:05] well there's and unless you get into uh
[42:09] something like recovery of food waste
[42:12] there's not much more to go I mean that
[42:16] commercial recycling program was a big
[42:18] step to get the to get the material from
[42:21] the commercial
[42:23] it's hard to it's hard to go after that
[42:26] last bit of
[42:28] because it's just so expensive
[42:35] and not more than what not more than
[42:37] what oh being the food waster he
[42:39] actually hasn't you know the college
[42:40] does it he has everyone else does that
[42:43] he has so he has this kind of a pilot
[42:45] that he has working with them but even
[42:47] City of Salem
[42:49] uh on the commercial is essentially a
[42:53] still a pilot because it's just so I
[42:55] mean they're they're doing it in the
[42:57] residential picking it up with a yard
[42:58] debris but it's
[43:01] they're not getting huge amounts and
[43:05] it's just so expensive the disposal is
[43:07] so much more expensive if you take it as
[43:09] mixed with food
[43:11] the yard agreements with food
[43:15] any other questions yeah I'm going to
[43:18] come home um
[43:21] in back in the comparative rate summary
[43:24] the back page again of our of our report
[43:27] and there's a pretty long list of cities
[43:30] there
[43:32] and
[43:33] um how many of the how many of the the
[43:36] outfits that service those communities
[43:40] are similar to Brands meaning you know
[43:43] sort of Hometown homegrown non you know
[43:47] Waste Management Incorporated Allied so
[43:51] I can I can tell you Corvallis and
[43:53] Dallas are are both Republic companies
[43:56] yeah corporate call them corporate well
[43:59] they're they're International companies
[44:00] yeah
[44:01] okay but they but they run out of uh you
[44:05] know I've represented them for years
[44:06] they they
[44:08] um run out of Divisions and and they
[44:10] actually run so it's very locally
[44:13] controlled it's not run out of some some
[44:16] other state
[44:18] um uh McMinnville is local
[44:23] um Salem Marion County uh and Salem Polk
[44:27] County those are a combination Republic
[44:30] is in there but there are most of them
[44:33] in there are are companies similar to
[44:35] brands
[44:38] uh there are some of them on I know I'm
[44:41] uh working with one company that's uh
[44:43] right now working on a rate increase
[44:46] with Polk County we'll be in there next
[44:48] week with the Board of Commissioners and
[44:51] I'm I'm working with the third
[44:52] generation of that company so so it's
[44:55] been family-owned
[44:57] um
[44:58] Silverton Stayton and Woodburn are all
[45:00] Republic companies but when I say
[45:02] Corvallis Dallas Silverton State and
[45:04] Woodburn they all started these
[45:07] companies started with Rich brentano who
[45:10] was if you know you remember rich
[45:12] brentano and I used to go around to his
[45:14] 11 cities you know and I take it I'd get
[45:19] in this pickup truck and we'd go out
[45:20] through the hot fields and we'd be in
[45:21] Jervis or wherever and and so these companies were all homegrown and
[45:29] they're still really very locally
[45:32] managed
[45:34] and they have to they have to work out
[45:38] on a composite in Salem in and uh and
[45:41] Marion County they have to work on a
[45:43] composite that they can't go jump out
[45:46] ahead of companies like brands
[45:50] I don't understand what that means that they uh
[45:56] they can't be going to corporate and
[45:58] doing things to their corporate and be
[46:00] doing things that uh would be harmful to
[46:04] the smaller companies
[46:06] and yet the smaller companies have to
[46:08] keep up
[46:10] so so it there's there's this tension
[46:13] that is in those in those instances it's
[46:16] really very good for the consumer
[46:17] because the big is making small keep up
[46:20] but big is also is also having to keep
[46:23] that local presence and not just get lost somewhere in
[46:28] Arizona can I follow up one question
[46:30] with what you're saying
[46:31] um because our franchise agreement says
[46:33] that another company can't Market in our
[46:36] city limits they can't solicit a product
[46:39] they can't do any of those things is
[46:40] when you say similar in other
[46:41] communities is that the same yes same
[46:44] standard yes in every one of these
[46:48] well I I asked for that and I suspected
[46:51] that information and I asked for it
[46:53] because
[46:54] you know I think that it's in our best
[46:57] interest that we keep Brands Bob and and
[47:00] we keep Brands
[47:03] um
[47:03] you know so if Republic were to come in
[47:07] and say what do you think we got a deal
[47:09] for you you know even with all due
[47:12] respect to the local control we we
[47:15] prefer a real truly local control and so I I think it's in our best
[47:20] interest to to do everything we can to
[47:23] assist
[47:25] um
[47:27] uh the the profitability and viability
[47:30] and and uh you know of Brandt's Sanitary
[47:33] Service and I've got a couple of other
[47:36] questions a little more substantive
[47:38] um
[47:40] the
[47:41] um I wasn't quite clear on on your
[47:46] um explanation of the expenses or the
[47:49] cost related to recycled you know the Solid Waste Recovery or whatever
[47:55] industry terms that they use
[47:59] um my I mean I you know we it appears
[48:03] that we we charge in round number 75
[48:06] percent you know for the recycling
[48:09] versus what we charge for the garbage uh
[48:13] I mean I'm
[48:14] maybe I'm missing no uh you know the the
[48:20] garbage the garbage is the the greatest
[48:25] preponderance of of this uh so on a on a
[48:30] 17
[48:32] um
[48:34] or a 20 20 or 22.19 I haven't broken it
[48:38] out lately as to uh
[48:42] the solid waste versus the recycling but
[48:44] it's it's almost the flip it's almost
[48:47] the reverse that it's more closer to 75
[48:50] is or well over 50 is solid waste
[48:54] and it and it was more closer to 75
[48:57] percent even 80 percent garbage and and
[49:00] the other uh recycling before we put
[49:02] yard debris in there that's why it
[49:03] brings it up closer to 50 percent
[49:05] probably now with the argue there well
[49:08] the the one the reason
[49:10] the one I'm looking at
[49:12] um is which I believe what probably what
[49:15] we have you know is I'm looking at the
[49:18] one time a week for the I'm assuming
[49:21] that that's
[49:23] garbage and then then
[49:26] um
[49:27] well it's hard to pull out it's all good
[49:29] it's all all the recycling has to be
[49:32] within the garbage rate that is that is
[49:34] uh Oregon policy state of Oregon policy
[49:38] you you charge one rate for garbage
[49:42] Recycling and yard debris and so this
[49:45] rate of twenty dollars and fifty five
[49:48] cents currently 22.19 proposed is for
[49:52] all three services I see that that I I
[49:55] misunderstood that yeah that's for all
[49:57] three services I I uh okay
[50:00] so where it says up above it includes
[50:03] one a cart for solid waste two a cart
[50:07] for every other week mixed Recycling and
[50:09] three a cart for every other week you
[50:12] already so that rate is all inclusive
[50:14] yeah okay
[50:16] that makes that makes sense now as we as
[50:21] we we've talked about when you were here
[50:22] in 2012 there was a considerable
[50:24] discussion about and Scott mentioned it
[50:27] the the cost of disposal tipping fees
[50:30] now those are that go into the landfill
[50:33] is that correct
[50:35] now is that
[50:37] I'm trying to get a get a sense because I'm trying to find a way to tie
[50:42] eight percent of the information we have
[50:44] here now certainly it increases in order
[50:47] but I'm trying to figure out how eight
[50:48] percent how we get there
[50:50] um so as you as we recycle more
[50:54] than it seems to me that we have less
[50:58] tipping fees
[51:02] then we still have expenses you know on
[51:06] the disposal of the other but I'm not
[51:09] sure how that breaks out yeah that would
[51:12] be true if um if people were not now
[51:17] disposing more
[51:18] and and that's unfortunately what we're
[51:20] finding Statewide is that we're
[51:23] recycling more but we're still disposing
[51:24] more
[51:25] and and so so we don't find the tons
[51:29] going down on the solid waste side
[51:31] dramatically
[51:33] because we're a throwaway Society
[51:36] I mean I'm the aren't you now selling
[51:39] that
[51:40] product for some type of return the
[51:45] recyclable product on a loss overall at
[51:48] a loss overall and
[51:51] some of it
[51:52] oh you're paying for you to get rid of
[51:54] them
[51:56] if it's garbage I mean that's 100 we're
[51:59] paying to get rid of what of what folks
[52:02] would hope we
[52:04] uh
[52:09] we can get we can still get revenue on
[52:11] the cardboard and paper not like we were
[52:14] no but the Plastics the glass you know
[52:17] all of that is and and there's so much
[52:19] of that
[52:20] because it's time to have the whole of a
[52:23] glass we take the formula now so that
[52:25] you know you're looking at a four-hour
[52:26] trip up and back truck getting three
[52:29] miles per gallon
[52:31] um we're transporting that you said yeah
[52:34] um and we're going up there for 19 a ton
[52:37] yeah
[52:39] and um so and you can only hold so much
[52:42] up there yeah you get above nine tons
[52:44] and now you're looking at a ticket if
[52:46] you get caught so yeah so much yeah
[52:52] it sounds like we're going up one spot
[52:55] sounds like you need to buy a rail car
[52:56] coming down yeah I wish
[53:01] um
[53:03] one of the things that that is noted
[53:10] here in terms of the cost drivers
[53:12] um that are that are you know ratcheting
[53:16] that up
[53:17] um
[53:27] you know we we note the the
[53:30] health insurance that goes to employees
[53:33] uh we got we got a large percentages on
[53:36] all of those across across there I have
[53:40] no idea what the actual I mean I know
[53:42] what the percentage is of an increase
[53:43] but is that a small number or is that a
[53:46] large number
[53:47] what the impact of that the ones that I
[53:49] gave you were the large numbers because
[53:51] we have uh your your city manager
[53:54] actually has the income and expense
[53:56] statement that it has all of the numbers
[53:59] the confidential and it is a
[54:02] confidential document
[54:03] the only ones I gave you that were the
[54:07] larger numbers
[54:09] um some of the small numbers went up or
[54:11] down the but to get back to your why
[54:14] eight percent the when you look at at
[54:17] the the
[54:19] uh ones that went up the ones that went
[54:23] down uh fuel went down of course so uh
[54:27] the bottom line is
[54:29] they went up overall 9.6 percent and we
[54:34] had Revenue increases over the over the
[54:36] period between 2012 and 2016 of 9.7
[54:39] percent putting this back in the zero
[54:41] position and uh we have always targeted
[54:45] for eight percent in this city for eight
[54:49] percent return it's a it's a one shot in
[54:51] time as soon as as soon as we get it it
[54:53] starts to go down again but it is a it
[54:56] is a one shot in time now just to your
[55:00] East to the East and all of Salem and
[55:03] Marion County Target to 10 percent
[55:06] so you are actually are actually
[55:09] providing a little lower return I mean
[55:12] we're targeting a little lower return
[55:14] throughout Polk County Polk County is
[55:15] the same way in Independence
[55:17] so if I could ask your question in a
[55:20] slightly different way to look at that
[55:21] Trend down at the bottom of health
[55:23] insurance General insurance and so on
[55:25] well those percentages are high that's a
[55:27] small piece of the overall expenses
[55:29] facing the company those categories
[55:31] there are other expenses that are uh
[55:34] more on flat out dollar terms bigger
[55:37] chunk of the big picture actually these
[55:38] were the biggest these were the biggest
[55:40] flat out dollar ones these I I did not
[55:42] put the ones that were small dollar
[55:45] amounts I didn't I didn't put in this
[55:47] list these uh I the probably the
[55:51] exception to that would be health
[55:53] insurance is not one of the biggest
[55:56] amounts uh the two insurances are not
[55:59] but but big is disposal 19
[56:04] repairs and maintenance that's big
[56:09] let me just check in real quick and uh
[56:12] Steve or Royal uh Darren marshalling Bay
[56:16] we're getting two folks okay I'm fine
[56:19] okay John you have anything else or are
[56:22] we ready to
[56:23] uh no I I uh I yeah I I was I would like to have
[56:32] um
[56:33] I mean it would be it would go down much
[56:36] easier for me if I had a little a little
[56:39] more sense of of
[56:41] um you know what the dollar impacts are
[56:44] I mean we're dealing with percentages
[56:46] yeah yeah and and I get that that's that
[56:50] that's confidential and and believe me I
[56:52] want to go back to what I said the first
[56:54] time in my mind it's important and
[56:56] essential that that we do all we can to
[56:59] make Brands
[57:01] um financially solid and and fiscally
[57:04] solved so they it can remain as it as it
[57:07] is because I think I don't know anybody
[57:08] that's not happened to the service uh
[57:10] however you know to use the former
[57:14] councilman's term we need to do our due
[57:16] diligence on behalf of our rate payer
[57:19] uh and and to not
[57:22] you know I I I I I think you get detail
[57:26] on this I I think we owe that to our
[57:28] rate payers and uh and again I'm I'm all
[57:31] for it I'm just I'm just and we did give
[57:34] the great detail to the city and so it
[57:37] is available if you would like to
[57:39] just can't take it home yeah no I I mean
[57:42] I and I understand why that proprietary
[57:44] information but but it would it would
[57:46] make uh it would make things easier
[57:49] yeah I I would I would like to follow up
[57:52] with John
[57:53] um uh I I just I'm finding it extremely
[57:56] difficult to figure out why why the
[57:59] eight percent has to be across the board
[58:00] it seems like
[58:02] um just from The Limited information I
[58:04] have I haven't been able to get into uh
[58:06] Scott's office to look at the detailed
[58:08] information but I just can't figure out
[58:11] from the information provided
[58:13] how
[58:15] you came to eight percent just I'm not
[58:17] going to repeat what John said but I do
[58:19] Express concern over that
[58:22] um and I'm going to go against the the
[58:23] you know the green here
[58:25] um I'm all for competition and I think
[58:30] uh conversation could be had
[58:33] um to
[58:34] spur more Innovation
[58:38] um lower rates potentially because I
[58:40] mean just with the information provided
[58:42] I'm looking at Salem providing
[58:45] are getting a five percent or paying a
[58:47] five percent franchise fee lower cost um
[58:50] close across the board and they're
[58:52] getting yard debris weekly
[58:54] and you said they're targeting a 10
[58:56] return and we're only targeting an eight
[58:58] percent return that that's interesting
[59:00] me but competition to me is interesting
[59:03] I'm all for having Brands they fantastic
[59:05] Service never had ever had a problem but
[59:09] it's interesting me that we would
[59:12] as a city
[59:14] I know we have forever but
[59:17] you know support or prop up a company a
[59:21] private company
[59:22] um
[59:24] and it's hard for me to find that
[59:27] anywhere else and I know that's common
[59:29] practice but
[59:31] it seems when there is competition that
[59:34] Innovation happens you lower prices and
[59:36] all those good things so and that might
[59:39] be a different decision but I would I'm
[59:41] really concerned about what the eight
[59:42] percent really is coming from so the
[59:44] eight percent is trying to bring it back
[59:46] up to the top
[59:48] understand that but the numbers that we
[59:50] got it doesn't it doesn't add up so
[59:53] you're right those don't the ones I gave
[59:55] to the city manager do
[59:57] uh but so but but the uh for the City of
[1:00:02] Salem
[1:00:03] um
[1:00:05] we're starting the rate review that
[1:00:07] grants have a June 30th here in City of
[1:00:11] Salem all the companies there have a
[1:00:13] December 31 year end so we are assuming
[1:00:17] that this year we will be going back I
[1:00:21] mean these rates are we're assuming are
[1:00:23] going to change some of them at least in
[1:00:25] City of Salem and so you're you're
[1:00:28] seeing the tag end of of
[1:00:31] what's there now
[1:00:33] so so can I interject something to help
[1:00:36] you out Jesse
[1:00:37] yes you can because I was here when we
[1:00:41] first started talking about
[1:00:44] um trying to do the joint
[1:00:45] um
[1:00:46] similar franchise between Monmouth and
[1:00:48] independence with rhinos that was in
[1:00:50] 2009 recording and
[1:00:54] we looked at some outside vendors not
[1:00:57] cost effective for us as a community
[1:00:59] the fact that they're coming back now
[1:01:03] from 2009
[1:01:05] to 2015 and only asking for an eight
[1:01:07] percent is pretty phenomenal
[1:01:10] phenomenally small enough I think it's
[1:01:13] 12 to 15 but so two eight percent this
[1:01:15] would be the second eight percent yeah
[1:01:17] and I'm looking still and yeah just me
[1:01:19] just from the basic Services I'm getting
[1:01:21] which is once once a week for garbage
[1:01:24] every other week for the other two I'm
[1:01:27] looking at the close to 60 about 60 a
[1:01:29] year no you're not they're looking at a
[1:01:32] raise of uh from 2055 to 2219 a month
[1:01:38] a dollar forty five a month for 12.
[1:01:41] this is your top line right here Jesse
[1:01:44] one time a week 35 gallon can unless you
[1:01:47] use a great place to see the recycling
[1:01:49] and recycling
[1:01:51] that's that's if you have two recycling
[1:01:54] Keys two yard debris cans
[1:02:00] that makes sense does that make you feel
[1:02:01] better thank you yeah
[1:02:08] I know I've read the back sheet too I
[1:02:10] mean what I came out with Jesse was
[1:02:12] 17.28 per year for the average customer
[1:02:16] um taking a 35 gallon can once a week
[1:02:19] and Recycling and garbage debris
[1:02:20] alternating
[1:02:23] so did that feel better I don't need to
[1:02:27] feel better no I'm saying does that feel
[1:02:29] better I feel better
[1:02:31] um we always go down this road where you
[1:02:33] guys try to make me feel better I have
[1:02:34] questions it's like no that's right and
[1:02:36] um
[1:02:37] I don't know how anybody here can take
[1:02:40] these numbers and quantify where the
[1:02:42] eight percent is coming from but
[1:02:45] um I'm full support if with Council if
[1:02:47] that's their choice but once again I
[1:02:50] struggle supporting Private Business
[1:02:52] from a
[1:02:53] public municipality sampling but no
[1:02:56] we're not well we're not there's a
[1:02:58] ratepayer fees these are not city taxes
[1:03:01] City gets seven percent of every bit of
[1:03:04] it yeah we actually make money out there
[1:03:06] so so uh just when I grew up in Kentucky
[1:03:08] we had city garbage service which is way
[1:03:12] more expensive than this
[1:03:14] because the expenses for city employees
[1:03:16] were much higher than for private
[1:03:18] employees
[1:03:19] and it was a shock to me to come to
[1:03:21] Oregon and find like when I first moved
[1:03:23] to Eugene you went with the Yellow Pages
[1:03:25] and you picked the garbage company
[1:03:27] you know that that was unheard of I
[1:03:30] couldn't imagine such a system so this
[1:03:32] has been uh and you know I was always a
[1:03:36] little amazed at Supply your own garbage
[1:03:37] can uh recycling in a yellow tub and
[1:03:42] that was it and when we started this
[1:03:46] discussion in 2009 about completely
[1:03:48] overhauling how we pick up garbage and
[1:03:51] recyclables in the yard debris adding
[1:03:53] yard debris in this community and I had
[1:03:55] just a little bit of we talked to the
[1:03:57] citizens we took a poll you know we
[1:03:59] we've got really good feedback from
[1:04:01] citizens in both cities uh Independence
[1:04:03] was maybe just a little bit more
[1:04:04] resistant until we added in addition to
[1:04:07] weekly or monthly you could get every
[1:04:09] other week garbage service and that gave
[1:04:11] retirees an option that was actually
[1:04:14] cheaper than what they were paying for
[1:04:15] weekly and all of a sudden everybody was
[1:04:17] on board we still had people saying I
[1:04:19] missed the old system but I'll guarantee
[1:04:21] you if you went to people in this
[1:04:22] community and said you can give your
[1:04:24] wheeled garbage can back you you go buy
[1:04:26] your own can now I don't think
[1:04:28] I don't know where you're going with
[1:04:29] that but right yeah I'm just I'm tickled
[1:04:31] with this system and and I think France
[1:04:33] has done a great job coming across the
[1:04:36] I think they've done a great job putting
[1:04:38] a a real alteration in just six years
[1:04:42] and how we take care of followers to
[1:04:44] this community so I would agree with
[1:04:46] that yeah today's question is okay with
[1:04:48] Independence um I notice it's pretty
[1:04:50] much across the board same rates and
[1:04:53] you're asking for the same exactly the
[1:04:55] same we basically have the same
[1:04:58] thanks Sean yeah yeah and that was
[1:05:01] another thing that we came to between
[1:05:02] the two cities when we moved this
[1:05:04] direction so there's uh as Steve
[1:05:07] indicated that was a bit of a were there
[1:05:10] so uh this will be resolution 1808 oh
[1:05:14] I'm sorry
[1:05:16] I don't see that finger up yeah I have
[1:05:20] to I asked one more question okay and
[1:05:22] John brought this up and you've been
[1:05:23] asking what's the Tipping cost isn't it
[1:05:26] the same for yard debris as it is for
[1:05:28] garbage or is it pretty close what's the
[1:05:30] difference
[1:05:34] for garbage
[1:05:36] yeah that's 39 or 10.
[1:05:39] yeah I'm just trying to go for the basic
[1:05:41] because it isn't free we have to pay for
[1:05:43] it to dip it they keep changing it so it's a I I
[1:05:51] have I have I don't know what the new
[1:05:53] one is okay well because I used to
[1:05:55] recycle it's less building yeah they
[1:05:57] don't recycle anymore that recycling
[1:05:58] North went away didn't it down there at
[1:06:00] Corvallis the campaign
[1:06:03] it's just not there for you need to go
[1:06:06] to anymore yeah you got to go to the
[1:06:08] dump because of um
[1:06:11] and they got a bunch of product over
[1:06:14] there that wasn't
[1:06:15] um they had all in all off because it
[1:06:17] was contaminated they actually got a big
[1:06:19] fine for me here but we pay a ticket
[1:06:22] that should have been chipped up but we
[1:06:25] pay a tipping fee for that recycling
[1:06:27] down there don't we yes yep yes okay
[1:06:29] it's less than garbage it's less than 39
[1:06:32] but I don't know exact current I'm ready
[1:06:35] I know what food waste is that went on
[1:06:37] up to 65 a time yeah they charge more
[1:06:42] for it is
[1:06:44] food waste has to be impounded
[1:06:47] they have to treat it I mean it has to
[1:06:49] be cared for so carefully yeah
[1:06:54] I move approval of resolution 1808 which
[1:06:56] would adjust Solid Waste rates emergency
[1:07:03] counselor Kerry
[1:07:06] well I I really feel like we're
[1:07:10] short on information on on the detail
[1:07:12] thing and I know it's been provided but
[1:07:17] um
[1:07:21] and I'm and I'm I'm not a lot to me it
[1:07:24] would be why well I'll just quit
[1:07:26] um I'll I'll say I
[1:07:29] the details I want to push are
[1:07:31] insignificant
[1:07:32] counselor silbernagel aye councilor
[1:07:35] Milligan aye
[1:07:37] counselor Guthrie aye Pastor Johnson
[1:07:40] aye councilor Shaffer
[1:07:42] aye and with that eight percent increase
[1:07:45] thank you very much
[1:07:53] I said the wrong thing thank you okay
[1:07:55] and
[1:07:56] um that brings us to the end of our
[1:07:57] business agenda any Council comments
[1:08:00] tonight
[1:08:02] I just wanted
[1:08:04] say a shout out to all the employees
[1:08:06] it's impressive all the years that I've
[1:08:08] been here at the diocese for these this
[1:08:10] is the largest number and it's the
[1:08:12] largest cumulative total of years of
[1:08:15] employees it's just phenomenal there's a
[1:08:18] couple of the
[1:08:19] employees that got 20-year recognition
[1:08:22] that I said are probably young enough to
[1:08:25] make it to 40 if they choose to all
[1:08:28] right I mean yes we've got an impressive
[1:08:31] crew
[1:08:32] yeah yeah
[1:08:33] that was the challenge reading all those
[1:08:36] and I would appreciate y'all
[1:08:39] give me time to get through this is hard
[1:08:43] um so we do have a an executive session
[1:08:45] tonight
[1:08:46] um if there are no other Council
[1:08:47] comments I would read the executive
[1:08:49] session script
[1:08:50] which reads the city council will now
[1:08:52] meet an executive session for the
[1:08:54] purpose of discussing performance
[1:08:55] evaluation of public officers and
[1:08:56] employees the executive session has held
[1:08:58] percentage RS
[1:09:00] 192.6602 I performance evaluation of
[1:09:03] public officers and employees which
[1:09:04] allows the council the median executive
[1:09:05] session representatives of the news
[1:09:07] media and designated staff or other
[1:09:09] person shall be allowed to attend the
[1:09:10] executive session all other members of
[1:09:12] the audience are asked to leave the room
[1:09:14] representatives of the news media are
[1:09:16] specifically directed not to report on
[1:09:17] any of the deliberations during the
[1:09:19] executive session except the state of
[1:09:21] the general subject of the session is
[1:09:22] previously announced no decision may be
[1:09:24] made in executive session at the end of
[1:09:26] the executive session we will return to
[1:09:27] open session and welcome the audience
[1:09:29] back into the room it's not anticipated
[1:09:31] that action will be taken this evening
[1:09:32] after returning from executive session
[1:09:34] and we do have
[1:09:36] a council work session so I'd ask at
[1:09:39] this point for a motion to adjourn the
[1:09:41] meeting to work session and return to
[1:09:44] the meeting after that work session for
[1:09:46] the executive session okay
[1:10:01] foreign