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thank you. The first order of business is the opportunity for the public to address the board. So, there's anyone in the audience or online who would like to say something to the board. There'll be a three minute limit today. Any subject is not already on the agenda.

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If so, would you please come to the podium so we can hear you better.

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I'm sorry.

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I'll leave one comment and concern about the fire.

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That was just notification.

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I was happy to be on the park premises myself.

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my wife was watching one of the properties across the creek. I was notified. They went

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through and notified all the larger residents on the south side of the creek. Nobody

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ever went up towards Alani. So my wife was never notified.

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I'm not here to complain about

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that or make a big deal about that. I just want to know why you guys to know it so that

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in the future. Somebody makes their way up that dirt road. A lot of it was lost. My wife

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was watching where Wes and Janice are staying at this point and were staying and she was

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not notified at all. So luckily I got in touch with her. We got her back over and we all got

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out of there safe obviously but that was just really all I wanted to say to the group is when you are

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looking at this whole thing and looking at how to do better. And I'm not saying anybody did

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horrible I didn't do anything wrong. I know they went through the neighborhood. They neglected that dirt road up that way.

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So some people can't really be in a risk and I just don't want to see anybody get hurt in the future.

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That's all I have. Thank you. Appreciate you coming in.

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And thank you to the community for all this.

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As we ran out with tennis shoes and the pair of pants and one crate. So I appreciate all the

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community coming forward and donating and everything that's happened that way. I thank

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everybody very much for that. Thank you. Thank you for being here to share that.

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I appreciate it.

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Okay. We do have some comments on Zoom. Andrea, you should be able to

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Good morning all. Thank you so much for taking our comments early in the meeting.

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I really appreciate it. My comment is that I would like to see more

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organization of the ability for us to be able to contact each other easier and get the

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resources out easier. It seems like there's not one list that anybody has that we can put

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resources towards and have that distributed. It would be nice if there was an actual official

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list in which we could give our resources to the county and then the county could that way get it out.

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I want to thank the Chamber for taking the brunt of so much of the organization.

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They've done a really great job of doing a lot of that kind of stuff as well as our local community.

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And then the other thing that I had to say in public comment was I'm hoping that somehow the county

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can represent us in legal representation as we explore with the Forest Service, the extreme blunder.

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on their part that resulted in a huge fire.

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This could have been prevented.

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as a legal representation.

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I appreciate your comments.

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Thank you for coming in today to talk, thank you.

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Katie, you should be able to unmute yourself.

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Hi, this is Katie Hernandez.

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We lost our house in the pack fire.

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I had some concerns, kind of mirroring what Andrea was saying

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There just isn't a centralized hub of information.

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I'm, you know, losing text messages and losing track of e-mails and Facebook links.

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And I just, it's just really hard to gather the resources that we have into one place.

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And then we also have neighbors collecting personal information of the other neighbors that were

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impacted.

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and that just doesn't seem like that should be their job at all.

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No one's reached out to us. No one, the county hasn't called to make sure that we're okay. It's just very concerning and especially for myself, my household, we would like to know where to go for mental house support. I heard about it one night and then I'm not sure where to turn for that.

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Okay. Thank you. Staff will be following up. I appreciate your comments.

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This morning, I'm number two.

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We have a recognition which was not official recognition,

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but we do have the High Sierra Energy Foundation celebration of their 20th anniversary,

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and I think we have Pam Bolter to talk to us about that.

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Welcome, Pam.

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Hi, welcome.

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Good morning, all.

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Thank you for the opportunity.

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Thank you, Jennifer.

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for sponsoring. And first of all, it feels just a little hard to have a celebration in

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the light of some of the, you know, most recent enough. We feel for our friends and neighbors

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for the Pacifier, so I just want to put that out there as well. So now we're in celebration

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mode. But you know, like 20 years is a nonprofit in a small region is definitely something to

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celebrate and so we wanted to take this opportunity, not just to acknowledge that but also to give you an update on some of our most recent work.

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So I wanted to also introduce.

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Good morning, Jess Blackwell. I've been working with Pam Bold and High Star Energy Foundation for about four years now.

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Have had the opportunity once in the past to present to the Mono County Board of Supervisors. So thank you for having us this morning.

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We also have a couple of other employees.

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If you've known me for a long time, you know that I was a bit of a lone wolf for a number

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And it feels so nice to have really talented staff.

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Civic Spark, if they're working climate or energy, they're called Civic Spark's, Ella Frances

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who just joined us and will be with us for the year.

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So we're excited to have more resources and ability to help our communities.

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Please, so you can go ahead and switch the slides please.

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So just an overview, I actually just do want to pick this one.

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So I think many in this room are familiar with our organization,

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Hi-Sair Energy Foundation.

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We are a non-profit.

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We're based here in Mammoth Lakes,

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and we serve mono and in-yo counties.

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Our focus is to promote the culture

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of energy efficiency and sustainability,

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and we do that in a number of different ways

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through a bunch of different programs.

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And as Pam mentioned, we are celebrating our 20-year anniversary, so we're found in 2005.

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Originally, we focused on creating a geothermal heat district for the town of Mamath Lakes.

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innovative energy projects and our organization pivoted at that point to focus on

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local government partnerships through Southern California Edison and

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really leaned into the work of energy efficiency.

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integrated demand side management and a number of different programs, as well as promoting electric vehicles through incentives.

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And we've really strived to connect community members, businesses, our local public agencies with resources that are going to benefit them.

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A lot of times these programs exist and many rural areas are left out because there's just not

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enough support in the program. There's not enough outreach. And so we strive to be that bridge to make sure that our community is getting those resources that we are already paying into.

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So if you could go to the next slide for us, I'll give just a very brief overview of where a funding largely comes from.

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Many of you may be familiar with public-purposed dollars already. All electricity and natural gas bills contain this public goods charge.

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And it's collected from ratepayers across the state and distributed through the California Public Utilities Commission.

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And the goal of this funding is to create energy efficiency programs that essentially reduce energy use across the state.

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So we can avoid investing in additional infrastructure, additional power plants that we don't need if we're able to all reduce our energy use a little bit.

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And then we work on what's called...

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Local regional energy networks. So the high-cier energy foundation is a founding member of the Central

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California rural rent, as well as a regional partner of Southern California Regional Energy

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Network. And rents are essentially a framework for local governments to access the CPC energy

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efficiency programs and funding. And they're designed to allow communities to really get involved

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and help design these innovative programs and do work that traditional energy programs can't.

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customers, as well as disadvantaged and underserved communities.

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I assume a lot of years, kind of that time, when Rick helps a lot of you in the room, probably

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no Rick can give him kudos for, I took over for him about eight years ago.

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He was here to celebrate our 20th, a couple weeks ago, and he's now teaching up at Oregon

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in state and still in the energy world.

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So I just wanted to shout out to the foundation that he laid there.

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when I've been with the organization, as we advocated for these rural communities

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through the CPC, through what was called the rural and hard to reach working group

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that was set up by the CPC for agencies and organizations and local governments

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to share best practices around how we can better get funding here and how we can better serve our communities.

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And so that has come together and what it's called the Central California Rule RIN.

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And we're super pleased we've been working with these agencies for a lot of years.

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Anne Bagg, which is the area of Monterey Bay governments, San Joaquin Valley Clean Energy Organization.

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the county of Ventura, who just is in the ring and an advisory role, and then the county

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of San Luis, who is a bespoke, it administers this for us, and as you can imagine, you all

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know bureaucracy more than you'd probably like, but the CPC has a lot of requirements and

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regulations, and so we're happy to have the county of San Luis a bespoke, administer these

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funds for us and do all of the regulatory process.

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But so we were just approved in September of 2024, with a $36 million budget for four years.

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That serves 5.4 million customers over 14 counties, and almost 50,000 square miles at one point.

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Someone said, are you in central California?

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And I said, I don't care what they call us if they give us the money, we'll take it.

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So for this, we're called Central California, but we'll take it.

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And so I'm really proud of our group that just starting in September of 24,

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we have already begun five of the programs, five of six programs.

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The finance program will launch sometime in 2026.

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But this group has really just put our heads down.

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It is coupled with the workforce education and training where we take at-risk youth to learn how to do energy audits and go into homes.

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Some of those type of services may end up in our region at some point, but with the bulk of citizens and ratepayers there, we're focusing in improving ourselves in areas that we can get high impact.

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There's a commercial energy improvement program for small businesses, for no cost electrification projects.

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I'm happy to say that our implementer, Wildan, has hired and trained a person here locally.

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seeing if there's ways that we can provide no cost electrification services to them.

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Public is only in Monterey Bay because we do a public agency program through so

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which provides education and resources for Title 24 Energy Code.

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whether it be building officials, plan reviewers, residents, builders,

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contractors, design professionals can call in for an energy code coach and they get

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expert response back within one to two days.

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We also hope with just our recent, it turns out that if you build an energy efficient

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building, you often have a pretty hard and building from fire as well.

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We hope to bring some of those resources at least in training or however we can to our community

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members who are going to be rebuilding.

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So the Southern California Regional Energy Network, I know some of you in the room has know of us working with them. It's administered by LA County and it brings resources to our public agencies. We're working, we're not currently working. Well, yeah, we actually did a multi-family project, the one in Bridgeport for your your workforce housing. We were happy to be able to provide that to production and make so there I know there was some energy retrofits at that building. We hope to do more with your public agency and public.

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Buildings, currently we are working with the town of Mammoth Lakes and Inyo County, Bishop Pauyu Tribe,

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help Creek, some of the other CSDs around, but in doing like facility equipment inventories and

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finding ways that we can save energy and provide incentives and finance.

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So that'll be something that we were capacity constrained and we didn't want to reach out to Mono County.

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Just because we didn't feel like we had the resources to do that in 2026, that is definitely our goal.

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and we'll hope to work with Paul or others to be able to do that.

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I'm excited, please.

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So I think some of you in this room have actually participated in some of our Earth Month events

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We were lucky enough to partner with Mono County Library and put on two years worth of events through what's called the California Sustainable Library's grant funding.

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Our focus was very much on meeting the community where they're at, helping bring some incredible resources and education events to the community for free.

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So things that we focused on, including doing a tour at the geothermal plant, taking folks

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to a hydropower facility to teach them how we make energy from water.

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with Eastern Sierra Electric Vehicle Association.

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you learn a lot, and it does not nearly smell like you would think it would.

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on other state public goods programs. We do a youth education program living-wise,

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and I think it's been 18 years that we've been doing that here at Mammoth Lake Salumentary.

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as well as many other local events we try to show up wherever we can to meet people where they are.

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monocounty, Bishop and Inyo.

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other businesses to help promote healthy food being sold locally.

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So, I have the next slide.

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So, specifically, contributions to Moana County.

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I mentioned the heat pump water heater in the employee county owned housing projects.

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Or, please, that over the last few years we've provided almost $20,000 of scholarships to students

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in Namath, Leibhane, and Colville for any student who is going into the traits that can impact our decarbonization goals or environmental, environmentally-focused students and we continue to do that and we have now named, we will be honoring Sam Walker who was one of our contributing founding board members with a Sam Walker scholarship that will be going forward for anyone in environmental or business.

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because he had to be Sam where he was and then we've also provided financial support to

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Mammoth High School construction and his traits program if you haven't met Mike VanWinkle

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and viewed what they're doing there you absolutely should and so they have done like solar

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charging stations we've provided funding for heat pumps to go into their tiny home or EDU

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that they're built and that one's kind of fun because we take, we volunteer at Blu-Za-Blu-Za

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and whatever money we just shift to them and so we're helping, you know, there's a lot of focus on

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trades and to get us where we need to go and we want to start making that more meaningful for students.

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So yeah, we're super excited to further collaborate with Mono County on energy projects

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and just on communication and letting people know of it.

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You know, we all have a role in this. So thank you for your time. Any questions? I'm happy to take any comments to. Just thank you for coming and going over your, really, your whole program of high Sierra Energy Foundation, because you've grown a lot and pivoted. And I think, you know, highlighting the, the Cal Ren program for us is great news. And I just, I do

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want to thank you for bringing in the water, the hot water pumps up in Bridgeport. I think

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there were four of them. And, you know, we're taking over another property, another building

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on that property. Maybe there's a chance to bring in a fifth. I know there's more, more

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that could be done up there on that property to make it energy efficient.

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I think it's a great partnership. So I want to thank you for that. I know you mentioned it, but

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yeah, it's great boots on the ground. I'd like to see that. Thank you.

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Yeah, thanks very much. You provided the introduction to leaveining and monocity fire to the

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self-generation incentive program and that enabled us to follow up and get wall batteries

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in two of our local fire stations that come on,

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every time the power goes out, which is often.

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So thanks.

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I just want to say thank you.

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I like hiding in plain sight.

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It's an organization because I know you've done work

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in Bridgeport specifically at the Bridgeport Inn,

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which we had which we came around years and years ago.

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But I would be happy to sponsor some kind of a book

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outreach, summer up in Bridgeport. I think getting more awareness out there, but I think

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I'd also love to follow up with you on Liberty and whatever we can do to address and affordability

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issues through advocacy, through the CQC. I definitely would love to connect with you on that.

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That's a different piece.

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I just want to mention that we are already, you know, we just started September 24th working

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on our business plan from 2028 to 2035.

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When they say what do you want to do in 2035, I say, I don't know, you can ask just what

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she wants me to do in 2035, but we hope to be bringing a lot more resources as well.

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You know, depending on where the tides turn with the CPUC funding, but we're definitely

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advocating for our communities.

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Thank you so much.

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We appreciate your time.

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Thank you so much.

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I had the pleasure of coming to the event, sort of, I think we're all there.

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And great fun was really good to see Rick and them and remember when the first time he came

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to aboard me, I think I had a little light bulb and like, this is what we're going to

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do.

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I want to stop for a second, we do have an emergency item to be added to the agenda.

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That will be item number 7a1 or what we do with, I want to read this.

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In the light of the fire last week, we have an advise that an item must be added to the

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agenda as there is a need for immediate action.

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This request requires a vote of the Board of Supervisors to add the item to the agenda regarding

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in a local health emergency declaration which is required to be ratified in seven days

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of the declaration.

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This action is authorized pursuant to government code section 54954.2 and the CB parenthesis

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2.

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All right.

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Can we have a motion to add this item?

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It's all moved.

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Okay.

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We have motion to second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Motion passes.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay. Let's move on. Then our next item on the agenda is the County Administrative Officer

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Report.

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Yes. Thank you board members and members of the public. Just a quick thank you to everyone

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who participated and responded to the PAC fire. We will have a hefty update later on this

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morning. We have someone from the Incident Management team that will be providing a full update

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on the fire itself, and we'll talk a little bit about the recovery.

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A note that we are putting together a local assistance center.

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It's got a lack in collaboration with Cal OES this Friday.

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November 21st, from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m.

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That'll be at the Crowley Lake Community Center, so you'll get a full update on.

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On the pack fire shortly, but I just did want to provide a thank you to everyone who responded to the fire. We had mutually from all over the eastern Sierra, and it was very appreciated as we responded to the fire in our community. Also, thank you to everyone who attended the Veterans Day celebration last Tuesday in Bridgeport. We had a really good turnout, a really good celebration. It was great to take some time to recognize all of the veterans in our communities.

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And I think that we have some ideas for next year and some other celebrations that we'll

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be talking about at some point in the near future.

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So thank you for that, and that's all I have this morning.

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Thank you.

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Any questions?

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We'll see if.

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Seeing done.

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Okay.

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Let's move on.

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Next, we have any department or commission reports, a brief report on any of those from any

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of those departments.

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Machine to the podium.

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Morning, Kathy.

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Good morning, Kathy Peterson with Health and Human Services.

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And I wanted to let you all know that through the CalFresh Emergency Food Program, we served

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about 35 families through the prepaid card program and through the food pantry.

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And then we found out that the CalFresh benefits were starting to flow, so we backed off on

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that.

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But I want your board to know that people were incredibly grateful.

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They felt like you had their back just knowing that that resource was available to them people really appreciated it

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Now we have a full food pantry here in Bridgeport and in Walker the one that we have here

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Now we can use for people displaced by the fire if anybody needs any support there are office

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We've had a we've served a couple people

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They can certainly use that pantry

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There's lots of other resources out there as well

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but that pander is stalked, ready to go.

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Vons made some donations.

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We have some of that food available as well.

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We can help people with cal fresh replacement benefits,

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not just those displaced by the fire,

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but if you lose power and you're without power

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for four hours or more, you can come to our office.

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We'll replace those benefits,

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cal fresh benefits for you.

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We can also help, of course,

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any questions around MediCal,

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general assistance, the CaliRx program, the housing support program, so we're just

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encouraging people to reach out to us. I also want to say that I want to give a

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lot of things on the response. Our office, as you all know, is responsible for the

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temporary evacuation point set up once that's been called by Office of

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services, sheriff's department, once that is called, we work to get those things set up.

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And sheltering, and there's a lot of people involved to support that.

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We really want to thank Inyo County and the Tri-County Fairgrounds.

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They did a lot to support around that.

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Inyo County Health and Human Services Director showed up.

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She helped us with logistics, quite a bit of support.

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We did have individuals for the shelter, we had somebody stay overnight.

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We don't always have that, it's not the most comfortable.

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But we were very happy to support that and the Red Cross and somebody up from Southern California to help manage as well as local Red Cross volunteers.

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So lots of support, lots of thanks, mammoth unified school district, of course, supported the effort.

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They helped us with the mammoth, or mammoth middle school support, so thank you for that.

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There's a lot more to go, lots of recovery, I know, but I just want to mention all of those great supports.

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We'll now be turning our attention to SCA O Morbally mentioned.

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The local assistance center will be doing, we'll have five or more people that will attend

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that and bringing resources in coordination to help stand that up.

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It seems like there was one other thing I wanted to mention, but lots going in the brain

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these days.

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I think that is the list for this morning.

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Oh, I do know what it is.

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As I asked, Environmental Health, Jill to come up and talk with you.

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Jill Carney is our Environmental Health Program Manager.

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She has today some underground storage tank investigations are looking at them today.

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And so, before she leaves, I want to have her to talk about the Environmental Health aspect

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of recovery.

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I'm happy with the fire.

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Good morning.

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Chair Selsido, member of the board.

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I'm Jill Carney, Environmental Health Manager.

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I just wanted to make sure that the Board is aware that environmental health issue

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didn't advise to re-notes for as a result of the PAC fire.

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We want to make sure that anybody that was affected by the fire, their properties were affected by the fire.

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That there are hazardous materials present, probably with the property, the-

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And likely this soil is, is hazardous just due to all of the, you know, the materials in your home that you have bleached cleaning products, plastics, when that material burns, it becomes concentrated in the ash and the soil. So we recommend that people, you know, we understand that maybe people might wish to go to their properties, see if there's anything of value that survived the fire. We recommend that people don't do that just because of that. The potential for impacts to their health, their neighbor,

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But if people do decide that they want to do that, please protect themselves, wear long sleeves, wear long pants, wear gloves, and most importantly, have an N95 mask to protect yourself from inhaling any ash or debris that might be stirred up by that activity.

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The other thing that we wanted to make sure people know is for people who have not lost

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their homes, who are served by a private water well, we recommend that you disinfect your

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well before you use it for drinking, before you use it for cooking, disinfect your well

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and take a sample.

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If you need any help with that process, please call us.

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We can advise how to properly disinfect your well, and we can come and take a sample for

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you and have that analyzed free of charge.

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just please call our office, phone number 7609241830.

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Any questions for either

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Kathy or Jill? Really quickly. Thank you so much. Have you received a list of

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parties that have been impacted and directly contacted? I do not have that

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information yet. I think it's being compiled. I don't have it. I just think that one

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of the things that's going to be critical is that we are the active communicators

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that they're waiting for people to come to us.

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We reach out to our community, provide them what we can.

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Can folks also come into public health and pick up N95s and other PPE?

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And there are N95s available at the Health Department.

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We can provide this for your charge.

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That's upstairs here at the Civic Center, thank you.

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Thank you, this question is for I guess Kathy.

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The lack is not set up till Friday.

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Who do they get in touch with in the meantime?

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time, we've already heard public comment that there's, they're expecting an outreach,

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so maybe you could describe what is the best way to get questions answered in services

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while we're waiting for this to come forward.

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So, I want to look also to, to CAO Morbally, on that we, we are certainly, when we have

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that list, we can make contacts, contacts around the things that we just talked about.

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If you have any other direction that you'd like to provide.

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Yeah, I would say that having, we put together a list, we have all of the addresses that have been affected.

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And we don't have all of their phone numbers.

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We don't track all that information with the assessor, so the list comes from the assessor.

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So we're pulling that together this morning to reach out.

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And if anyone has any issues, they can reach out to Mono County.

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They can call my office and we can get them into the right spot, the right person.

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And Ready Mono is the place where I think we should be sending everyone who has questions.

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There's information there on the fire.

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And there's phone numbers, contact information there as well.

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We are working on updating that continuously.

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We're talking about updating it with the information that's provided right now.

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So if there's particular issues that people have, just let us know forward it to me.

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I'm happy to help get it to the right person, the right responder.

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There are a lot of resources, obviously we know there's people are collecting money.

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We have housing, lodging resources, food resources,

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so in the behavioral health.

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And so if there's any issues,

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just I would just say direct people to ready mono

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and they can use that information to kind of get

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to the right spot.

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But if there's particular issues, just let us know

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we're happy to help try to get these people

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to the right location.

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I think that one of our earlier callers suggested

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that we compile sort of a comprehensive information sheet

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if you will, with this kind of information on it, which could be posted in Spanish and

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the English on our website, as I think we could have, we need to do better in Spanish

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speaking as some of those people affected.

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And the fact that the sheriffs are probably, you know, down there and other responders still

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driving around and aware, making sure that they have at 95s in their car I think is a kind

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minimal kind of protection to have if they see a family who's on scene and you know

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poking around a little bit, it might be at least, well here at least put on, at least put on it in 95.

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It's like, you know, to the minimum. So maybe the sheriff's and the public health could work together in.

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Absolutely.

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Okay. Any other comments from the board?

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Okay. See none. Thank you very much.

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Okay, perfect.

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I am not more important. Thank you, Liz. Liz says I'm more important. I am not more important. I'm just bigger than she is. Good morning, Board Chair. I will speak more when we have the emergency item, but just real quickly about our response. I need to publicly thank all of the other first responders who came and helped.

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The Mammoth Lakes Police Department was on the spot there so quickly.

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My own staff, of course, were there.

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Our search and rescue team on their way back from some training in Bishop, they jumped

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in and helped California Highway Patrol Bishop Police Department in New County Sheriff for

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a service law enforcement.

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Everybody that could be there to help with evacuations was there to help.

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Did we do it perfectly?

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No, we're never going to do it perfectly, but we're going to try.

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And we're always going to take the feedback from the public about what we could do better.

434
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,740
and we can always do things better.

435
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,840
Also, special thanks to CHP for staying on and holding the closures for days.

436
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,640
They stayed and helped keep that community safe.

437
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:12,140
We had Long Valley and McGee closed off for quite some time,

438
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,160
as they made sure that those communities were safe and that the electricity could be restored.

439
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,460
It was a rough time for everybody, but we, thankfully and amazingly,

440
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,060
even though properties were lost, no lives were lost.

441
00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:31,240
and that is really remarkable considering how swiftly that fire moved.

442
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,260
And as for the cause of the fire that's still under investigation, that's the only,

443
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,740
it's being investigated by the Forest Service, it's on their land, so it's their investigation,

444
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,000
we are supporting them in that.

445
00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:48,010
I can't have, I don't have any answers as to how the fire started,

446
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:52,290
but it is under investigation and we are working with them on making that determination.

447
00:36:52,290 --> 00:37:00,990
the community meeting that was held was really a very good meeting and again the Crowley community

448
00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:05,930
for supporting one another as fast as that fire moved and as fast as we went door-to-door,

449
00:37:07,590 --> 00:37:12,230
communication amongst Crowley was faster in getting people out and calling each other and taking

450
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:17,330
care of one another and making sure that everybody was safe and they continue to care for one another

451
00:37:17,330 --> 00:37:24,330
and the outpouring of money and clothing and food and goods has been spectacular.

452
00:37:24,970 --> 00:37:27,950
How much we can all pull together in care for our community.

453
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:34,750
So thank you to everybody who has stepped up and my heart goes out to those who lost their homes.

454
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:36,390
One of them is one of my own employees.

455
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:37,990
I

456
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:52,760
know how hard that is and we're in the county's taken care of Maggie and her family as best we can.

457
00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,200
And the community's taken care of all of the families.

458
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:03,920
So, it's hard that something this horrible has to happen to remind us how much we have in common,

459
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,460
but we do share more in common than we don't, and this brings it home and makes us a family.

460
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,000
So,

461
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I'll take any questions.

462
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:22,040
Thank you, Liz.

463
00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:29,370
We're meeting. I know today is a big day, and I'm long overdue for the Department of Head

464
00:38:29,370 --> 00:38:35,010
Update, so I just want to breeze through this really quickly. We've received 21 applications

465
00:38:35,010 --> 00:38:39,430
for our community grant programs and those will be reviewed and allocated tomorrow at our

466
00:38:39,970 --> 00:38:43,950
Economic Development Tourism and Film Commission meeting at 10 a.m. in Levining.

467
00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:47,870
That information's on our website if you also want to join via Zoom.

468
00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:53,990
Every year we print about six to eight thousand event calendars to distribute a consumer trade

469
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:58,750
shows by mail. We're going to up our local distribution this year and get them out to more businesses.

470
00:38:59,590 --> 00:39:16,310
We include as many events as we can as space allows, but we include everything on our website events calendar, and so we're asking for folks to send us their 2026 event dates as soon as possible and for the calendar no later than December 5th to be included if space allows.

471
00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:21,590
Back in July, your board approved a temporary position for us.

472
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:25,450
We hired Sarah Vardaro, and she started with us in September.

473
00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:30,630
She has been amazing, extremely adaptable, the position changed probably 10 times so

474
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:34,170
she ended up sharing it with the Recreation Department.

475
00:39:34,450 --> 00:39:36,730
She did some data work with Marcel and Eric.

476
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:41,650
She supported the Mona Basin Visitor Center and the June Lake Visitor Center, and

477
00:39:41,650 --> 00:39:46,030
then increased that support when the government shut down to allow the Mona Basin Visitor Center

478
00:39:46,030 --> 00:39:48,790
to stay open for four days a week, which was fantastic.

479
00:39:49,690 --> 00:39:53,590
Her last day with the rec department was last week on Friday, but with the budget we

480
00:39:53,590 --> 00:39:53,910
have left.

481
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:55,930
She's going to stay on and help us a little bit.

482
00:39:55,930 --> 00:39:59,450
She's going to work full time for the mountain, but we're glad she'll have a few more hours

483
00:39:59,450 --> 00:39:59,890
with us.

484
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,720
So, you know, over a period of time, she went to a couple of golden muscle meetings for us recently that we were double booked and couldn't go. So, she's filling in some some some great spots and we really appreciate that support right now. TOT, huge thanks to Ronnie Munia's and Matthew Hall in the auditor's office. They have been working short staff to pull those numbers together and kind of catch up and I appreciate their willingness to communicate and work with us on possibly updating the TOT process in the future to improve it for

485
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,340
or both the operators and county staff

486
00:40:32,340 --> 00:40:33,780
and the public to get those updates

487
00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:35,800
and maybe collect some different information.

488
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,520
But anyway, we're waiting on Q1 numbers.

489
00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:40,820
They're waiting on six operators to report.

490
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,240
Then we need to do a little math

491
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,460
with the 12 to 15% adjustment to see where we ended up.

492
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:47,860
But I know we're anxious for those numbers, so we'll get back.

493
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,800
And then finally, thank you.

494
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,220
I know you received our economic development work plan

495
00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:54,520
report a couple of weeks ago.

496
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,420
And I would love because I didn't get a much time

497
00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:59,120
to chat with you, so I'd love to revisit that.

498
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,920
again in the future maybe in a meeting in January at some point we can kind of talk about a few

499
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,960
of the other projects and some of the great meetings that have come from it already and hopefully

500
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,160
some good work to come so I'll see you yes in 2026.

501
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:16,940
Could you thank you for your update and I

502
00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:24,660
would enjoy you coming back and talking about things that come out and everything and how it's

503
00:41:24,660 --> 00:41:27,160
It's going to, again, kind of boots on the ground with it.

504
00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:30,480
But can you tell us, you said you had 21 applicants

505
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,020
for the community, how oversubscribed is that?

506
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:36,140
You know, they were just pulling that number together for me.

507
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:40,800
So we have $64,000 available between the three programs.

508
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,780
And we had almost $90,000 requested, $87,773.

509
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:48,060
Okay, thank you.

510
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:48,700
Appreciate it.

511
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,020
Thank you.

512
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:49,760
Thank you.

513
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,400
Thank you very much.

514
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:52,240
Thanks for having me.

515
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,560
Good morning, Madam

516
00:42:02,490 --> 00:42:05,810
Chair, Board of Supervisors, Wendy Sigimero with the Community Development

517
00:42:05,810 --> 00:42:11,390
Department. I just want to let the board and the public know that there are a couple of

518
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:16,170
plans that we have that are available for public comment right now. These are also going

519
00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:21,110
to all of the regional planning advisory committees, everything from like a longer presentation

520
00:42:21,110 --> 00:42:26,090
to a very short, just hey, if you're interested, take a look at these. But we are trying to

521
00:42:26,090 --> 00:42:28,150
get the word out through those avenues as well.

522
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:36,270
So one is the regional transportation improvement program that is a transportation project funding

523
00:42:36,270 --> 00:42:41,710
cycle and that will be in front of the local transportation commission for a decision on

524
00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:42,970
December 8th.

525
00:42:43,070 --> 00:42:46,970
So if any public members are interested in that, you can submit comments to staff or come

526
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:48,130
to the LTC meeting.

527
00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:54,110
There's a drought resilience plan that is also available for comment that will be coming

528
00:42:54,110 --> 00:42:57,830
back to the Board of Supervisors, probably at your third meeting in December.

529
00:42:58,490 --> 00:43:02,710
And so public comment up until that point is available as well.

530
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:07,890
And then the last one is the Multidurstictional Hazard Mitigation Plan.

531
00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:10,890
The Board is receiving a presentation on that today.

532
00:43:11,230 --> 00:43:16,430
And so I won't go into that any further, but just wanted to announce it here that that is open for public comment as well.

533
00:43:16,990 --> 00:43:20,510
We will cover it in the agenda item.

534
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:28,030
But once this plan is submitted to KELOES and FEMA for comment, we cannot make any further changes to it.

535
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:35,670
So unlike most planning projects where comments can be received and changes can be made up until the Board of Supervisors adopts it,

536
00:43:35,870 --> 00:43:41,510
our deadline for changes really is that's the middle to KELOES and FEMA, which happens before the Board adopts it.

537
00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:48,030
If we make changes after it has been submitted to KELOES and FEMA, we have to go back through that review process

538
00:43:48,030 --> 00:44:00,570
with them again and it just takes a lot of time and then I wanted to let the board know that we do have two building inspectors that have been hired and are on staff now.

539
00:44:01,250 --> 00:44:17,390
Of course our hearts go out to everyone who is impacted by the fire but fortunately we do have our building inspectors on staff and they can now fully participate in helping to inspect any impacted structures and assist with the rebuilding process.

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00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:21,150
So there in the field, I don't know if we're

541
00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:23,350
when I'll be able to bring them in for a meeting

542
00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:26,290
to have them introduce to the board.

543
00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:28,650
We're prioritizing their field work right now,

544
00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:30,530
but if you do happen to see them around,

545
00:44:30,970 --> 00:44:31,910
please say hi to them.

546
00:44:32,070 --> 00:44:34,370
Their names are Matt, Rapel, and Joe Gadot.

547
00:44:34,830 --> 00:44:35,630
So thank you.

548
00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:36,630
That's great news.

549
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Someone's questions for me.

550
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,020
Hey, that's what I do.

551
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Other department heads here in Mammoth.

552
00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:47,950
Anybody in line, please?

553
00:44:49,110 --> 00:44:55,870
Yes, but I do believe there is a report up in Bridgeport if Danielle LeBrun wanted to

554
00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:57,650
there for that person. Thank you.

555
00:45:03,150 --> 00:45:08,290
We are still muted in the Bridgeport room. There we go.

556
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,540
Danielle, you should be able to speak now, I believe.

557
00:45:24,590 --> 00:45:42,610
Can you hear me now? Yes. Okay, beautiful. Good morning, everyone. I'm Danielle LeBrun, interim deputy director of the Public Health Division and Health and Human Services. I'm here for a follow-up update on our community flu clinics. We were able to get in the three mammoth unified schools this year, which we did not get into last year.

558
00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:49,130
so that was a great addition. It was a great success and we're working on some tweaks to continue

559
00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:54,330
to streamline the process with MAMF Unified for next year. Overall our community flu clinics

560
00:45:54,330 --> 00:45:59,630
were really successful and we were able to provide more flu shots this year than last year,

561
00:45:59,750 --> 00:46:05,610
a total of 703 in the community. And just a friendly reminder that the flu season is just beginning,

562
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:09,770
so it's not too late to get your flu shot. We have them available at the Civic Center for

563
00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:13,150
walk-ins and appointments Monday through Friday, 8 to 5.

564
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:14,350
Thanks.

565
00:46:14,770 --> 00:46:15,010
Okay.

566
00:46:15,210 --> 00:46:15,830
Danielle, thank you.

567
00:46:15,970 --> 00:46:16,750
Questions from the board?

568
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:19,150
Okay.

569
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:21,930
I'm glad you got in the schools this year.

570
00:46:22,030 --> 00:46:22,450
That was great.

571
00:46:26,530 --> 00:46:27,850
Anybody else in Bridgeport?

572
00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:32,570
No one else in Bridgeport, but I promoted Robin to provide her update.

573
00:46:33,230 --> 00:46:33,670
Morning, Robin.

574
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:35,250
Hi.

575
00:46:35,410 --> 00:46:37,250
Good morning, board and community.

576
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:44,290
So I want to dovetail first on what Sheriff Ron had to say about what it's like to be

577
00:46:44,290 --> 00:46:50,610
part of the fire. I was very likely not to lose my home, but I was also very impressed by the

578
00:46:50,610 --> 00:46:57,290
evacuation process that I got to be a part of and see. It was outstanding and really appreciative

579
00:46:57,290 --> 00:47:04,030
of that. These fires, because our communities are so small, are so personal, and I know that it's

580
00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:11,170
affecting first responders and supervisors and community members, and that there's overlap for all

581
00:47:11,170 --> 00:47:15,270
of us around how it feels. So what we're doing right now through the

582
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:20,390
Behavioral Health Department is we are putting up on ready mono some information

583
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:24,470
that will be useful to those who have lost their homes in terms of how to

584
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:29,650
manage your mental health. Also to people who have not but are trying to figure

585
00:47:29,650 --> 00:47:34,990
out how to help people emotionally who have lost their homes and also to talk

586
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:40,230
to each other kind of what to say and what not to say. We will be at the Friday

587
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:45,230
meeting available to speak to anyone. We will make sure that there's resources available

588
00:47:45,850 --> 00:47:50,670
for folks throughout, whoever is affected by this, whether you're a first responder

589
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:55,190
or a community member. So, I just wanted to make sure that's out there. We're in the process

590
00:47:55,190 --> 00:48:00,590
of getting that up in English and Spanish, of course. And if I, there's any questions about

591
00:48:00,590 --> 00:48:04,970
that, that you might have, I'm happy to answer them, or you can certainly just reach out to

592
00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:08,470
me personally. Okay, questions for

593
00:48:13,620 --> 00:48:17,860
you. Okay, Robin. Thank you for all the junior

594
00:48:17,860 --> 00:48:23,960
team are doing to support more of where to come. Yeah, absolutely more to come. Thank

595
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,480
you.

596
00:48:27,970 --> 00:48:35,430
There are no other hands raised. All right. We'll go on then to the consent agenda.

597
00:48:36,990 --> 00:48:43,810
And I believe there's a there's a couple of items that we would like to call when I'd like

598
00:48:45,350 --> 00:48:52,370
Yes, I'd like to pull item 5E for consideration, along with item 7H.

599
00:48:52,950 --> 00:49:01,170
And hopefully we can, by the time that comes forward, we might, I'm requesting some total expenditure update too.

600
00:49:01,290 --> 00:49:04,430
There's nothing we want to push it to after item 7.

601
00:49:04,610 --> 00:49:12,450
Yes, I'll just pull it from the consent agenda altogether to be considered with item 7A, which is this the concepting.

602
00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:15,850
I think any other poster?

603
00:49:16,110 --> 00:49:19,410
Yeah, I was going to ask for E to be pulled as well.

604
00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:21,010
And maybe when we get to that point,

605
00:49:21,370 --> 00:49:25,490
we can get some real explanation as to who's doing what,

606
00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:30,070
in terms of this, and actually like there's nothing

607
00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:32,930
in item E that says where the money's coming from.

608
00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:36,130
All

609
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,200
right, well let go ahead and then read the other items.

610
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:49,720
Okay, we have item A, Board Minutes, item B, 2025, 26 Children's Medical Services Plan,

611
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,580
item C, and Memmety Professional Services Agreement with Price, Page, and Company Certified

612
00:49:55,580 --> 00:49:56,860
Public Accountants.

613
00:49:56,860 --> 00:49:59,660
We have the ID.

614
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:09,880
The authorization for public works director to sign purchase order, an item F agreement with Victoria Campbell for the provision of indigent defense services.

615
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:29,980
We have a motion to approve these consent agenda. So moved. Second. Okay. We have a motion a second. All in favor. Hi. All right. On to correspondence received and sent and there was none. During the

616
00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:38,980
this period? All right, we are then going to do next the public health emergency item.

617
00:50:39,620 --> 00:50:42,780
So I would ask Dr. Boo, our public health officer, to speak for that.

618
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Good morning, Chair Socedo and members of the board. Dr. Tom Boo, Mono County Public Health

619
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:58,100
Officer, over the weekend, our emergency management director, Chris McCrastic, asked me to issue

620
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:01,800
a declaration of a local health emergency related to the PAC fire.

621
00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:08,180
He was thinking ahead to the aftermath of the fire and the toxic waste issues involved

622
00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:12,000
in cleanup that Jill Keirney referred to already.

623
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,580
Chris was in the process of making a request to the state for emergency proclamation and

624
00:51:19,580 --> 00:51:24,880
the local declaration is part of that process.

625
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:34,060
Yes, there are serious environmental hazards after structure fires, and it's my understanding

626
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:40,100
that the declaration in addition to helping us get a state assistance will facilitate

627
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:45,440
coordination with state agencies like Cal OES, Department of Talks of Substances and Control,

628
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:54,540
and Cal Recycle if we do receive a state emergency declaration, it can also facilitate procurement

629
00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:56,580
and contracting which may be necessary.

630
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:05,940
So I issued that declaration on Sunday, but as has been alluded to, you all have to

631
00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:10,960
ratify that declaration within seven days for it to remain in effect.

632
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:13,480
I have an answer any questions?

633
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:20,880
I guess I would also mention that typically historically, these declarations after fires are

634
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:27,840
are accompanied by restrictions, legal restrictions on the ability of people, homeowners, et cetera,

635
00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:30,920
to enter their property and to remove debris.

636
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:41,060
We opted not to try to issue any mandatory prohibitions but to advise people to be careful

637
00:52:41,060 --> 00:52:42,260
as Joel alluded to.

638
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:48,780
And I think there's also, if people do remove debris before, it's been cleared to do so.

639
00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:54,720
If I experts, they may forfeit the right to have free state assistance with some of the

640
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:57,060
later stages of debris removal.

641
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,880
I'd be happy to answer any questions.

642
00:53:00,140 --> 00:53:01,120
Questions for Dr. Bill?

643
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:06,400
Everyone has a copy of this declaration that the rate is about to go.

644
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:13,600
I mean, I was just going to say that that last copy that we provided seems like quite the

645
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:19,180
critical piece of information, has that been shared out directly to the impact of

646
00:53:19,180 --> 00:53:20,120
parties when we have a list?

647
00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:27,800
Well, I know it's in some of the material that we put together from CalMatters, that

648
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,740
Jill and Chris McCrassic have been getting on the already mono website.

649
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:38,040
Some of this has actually been posted or at least links and journal information in the

650
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:45,180
area of the fire, but I'm not sure exactly how far we've gone in terms of disseminating

651
00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:46,780
this information to the affected people.

652
00:53:47,540 --> 00:53:47,620
Okay.

653
00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:52,460
Yeah, again, it seems to, rather than wait for people to come to us, we push these

654
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:55,720
messages out as directly and in person as possible.

655
00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:57,240
Thank you.

656
00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:10,440
We're going to ratify this this morning, how to keep it in effect, and we have to read

657
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:18,320
to do another renewal of it because I know there's time frames in place like just to make sure that we have meetings

658
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:24,940
we know that we're going to keep this emergency effective that work again.

659
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,660
Well, it's helpful because we also have this declaration and the emergency declaration.

660
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,900
They're made with exigencies, we ratify them within seven days rather

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00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:41,020
And then on a regular basis, every 60 days, we continue to extend them as necessary.

662
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,680
So by having these together today, it makes the administrative process easier, but I think

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for the purpose of working with Cal OES and FEMA, it'll streamline that as well, because

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they'll both exist and terminate at the same time.

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00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,980
So, I think we're being asked to both...

666
00:55:01,010 --> 00:55:09,490
There are a local health emergency and also ratified the proclamation of a local health emergency. Is that correct, Chris?

667
00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:31,800
We'll just do the resolution. We'll authorize it now, and then we'll come back with a resolution. We'll both ratify this effect as well. Does that make sense? So it's we'll issue it today. For all of those purposes, ratify it today. But then in our first renewal on the 60th date, we will denote the ratification how we've added to the agenda.

668
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,400
Okay.

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00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,100
We have a clear record.

670
00:55:33,860 --> 00:55:34,340
All right.

671
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:36,700
Given that, can we have a motion to that effect, please?

672
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:37,300
So moved.

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Second.

674
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,120
We have motion to second all in favor.

675
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Aye.

676
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:40,960
All right.

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00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:43,060
That's what you namelessly.

678
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:44,080
Thank you, Dr. Booth.

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00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,380
Thank you also.

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00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:45,240
Thank you all so much for being here for this.

681
00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:55,700
And I would just a small comment to the LAC as we open the LAC, that we have whatever is

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00:55:55,700 --> 00:56:01,580
appropriate in your mind as far as disposable PPE or anything that you think would be

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00:56:01,580 --> 00:56:07,240
useful to have available there so that people have some level of protection if you think that's wise.

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00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:09,980
That's appropriate.

685
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:21,220
All right. And then we had, I'm with that. We're ready to go on to the public hearing.

686
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:31,310
So we'll go ahead and open the public hearing at 9.57. I'm sorry it was a bit late coming here today.

687
00:56:31,310 --> 00:56:38,890
But we have a public hearing which is a general plan amendment 25-1 and amendment tomorrow county code chapter 5.65

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00:56:38,890 --> 00:56:46,350
Revising short-term rental policies and regulations. We're being asked number one to hold a public hearing on this item

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00:56:46,990 --> 00:56:54,210
You see public comment deliberate in making desired changing and then following the public hearing and deliberation direct staff to

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00:56:54,210 --> 00:57:01,750
incorporate any of these policies into a amendment to the general

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00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:04,240
plan.

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And we're declaring that these amendments qualify as an exemption under SEPA 15301 existing facilities.

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00:57:15,740 --> 00:57:16,380
I get that right, Wendy?

694
00:57:16,820 --> 00:57:17,600
Yes, hey.

695
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,280
Thank you, Madam Chair, Board of Supervisors, Wendy Sugimura with the Community Development Department.

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,700
Before we actually dive into the presentation,

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I just wanted to take a moment and say thank you to a couple of people because this has been just such a huge policy lift and there have been so many

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00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:42,020
staff and others involved who really should be recognized for their efforts. So I wanted to start with Aaron Washco who was a planner in

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00:57:42,020 --> 00:57:51,580
community development and is now in the CAO's office and he did so much work on this policy effort and so much heavy lifting and did such a good job with organizing

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00:57:51,580 --> 00:57:56,240
using all of the information and data that it was fairly easy to hand off to a new planner.

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00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,580
So really just wanted to thank Aaron for all of his work on this.

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00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:06,480
And then Olia, of course, who stepped in behind Aaron, it's a big project with a lot of data to just step into and

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00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,960
fill those shoes and pick it up and work on it.

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00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:14,940
And she just did a great job managing all of that information and data and being flexible and keeping it moving.

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00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:16,840
So huge thanks to Olia.

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00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:19,980
Of course, thank you to Emily Fox and the County Council's office.

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00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:24,420
She's done a great job keeping us on track and helping us with all the legal issues and questions.

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00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,720
And we really appreciate her guidance.

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00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,960
And then the entire Community Development Department team.

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00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:37,260
I know it's usually just me and Olya and Aaron previously who are typically in front of the board and decision makers.

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,680
But we really have a whole staff team behind this.

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,960
Our whole staff is watching this right now, I'm sure.

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00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:58,480
When the board, for example, asks us, you know, very complicated and insightful data questions, for example, that Olia and I don't know off the top of our heads, right?

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00:58:59,020 --> 00:59:07,820
Our staff and our department is looking that up and crunching the numbers so that we can get the answers back to you and just really appreciate their backup and support. So it is a whole team effort.

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00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:10,460
Of course, I wanted to thank the Planning Commission.

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00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:25,380
They did a lot of work digging through these policies to vet them and provide the board with a thoughtful recommendation and it took them, you know, a significant amount of time much more than their typical planning commissions taken so they definitely deserve recognition.

717
00:59:26,140 --> 00:59:33,260
And then we just had a lot of help in the background just in Capruso and other staff who helped us get the word out the regional planning advisory committees.

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00:59:33,260 --> 00:59:36,560
of course weighing in on this and getting word out to their communities.

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00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,740
And then lastly, just the public in general, definitely not the least important, right?

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00:59:42,020 --> 00:59:46,880
Public comments, whether in support or against is so important to all of these development efforts.

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00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:52,800
Even when there's controversy over a policy or an issue, that's not a bad thing, right?

722
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,660
It provides a point of reflection and allows us to really critically evaluate what's being said in a policy.

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00:59:59,660 --> 00:59:59,980
You're going to be able to see how much you're going to see the next.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980
That's what is really meant and what's being accomplished and what is potentially being impacted. And those are important conversations to have. And then the changes that are made make the policy better. So I just really want to thank all of the public who has commented and provided their input. It's made this a better policy and a better product at the end of the day. So I just needed to get all of those thank yous and acknowledgments out of the way because I tend to forget them once we dive into the policy. And with that, I want to hand it over to Olia to start the presentation.

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01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:31,460
presentation. Thank you.

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,500
We've handed out copies of the, hard copies of the presentation.

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01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,660
There are copies available in the back of the room. And then there was also some public

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01:00:44,660 --> 01:00:50,420
comment received. Those have also been handed out to the board. And they're available in

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01:00:50,420 --> 01:00:52,760
the back as well. Thank you. And they're posted on the website.

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01:01:04,690 --> 01:01:11,910
All right. Good morning, Chair and members of the board. I'm back to walk us through General

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01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:18,930
plan amendment 2501 and modifications to Mono County Code chapter 5.65 today for the public hearing.

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01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:28,790
This slides move. All right. So here's our outline for today's presentation. It'll be a little

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01:01:28,790 --> 01:01:34,710
bit shorter than the workshop we held in October. We'll touch on the process so far, the policy

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01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:40,010
revisions since October and other required elements of the public hearing including findings.

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01:01:41,350 --> 01:01:48,450
So, during the workshop on October 21, 2025, we described the purpose of the new policies

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01:01:48,450 --> 01:01:53,190
provided and overmove the public involvement and research process, discuss the proposed

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01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:58,810
policies, including some amendments, and presented the recommendation of the Plated Commission.

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And this more or less covers this roadmap on the slide.

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01:02:03,310 --> 01:02:12,480
So moving into our policy revisions, out of all the proposed amendments, only the controversial

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01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,360
policies were adjusted during the October workshop.

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:21,360
No changes were requested on the non-controversial policies, so we'll focus on these four policy

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01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:21,860
issues.

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01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:29,510
So our first policy issue was to limit or decrease the number of existing short-term rentals.

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01:02:30,030 --> 01:02:33,750
The word decrease was recommended to be removed by the Planning Commission because none of

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01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:38,010
the policies would result in a reduction of the number of permits in any planning area.

746
01:02:38,770 --> 01:02:42,890
During the workshop, there was consensus to remove the word decrease from the policy

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01:02:42,890 --> 01:02:46,450
issue wording. The Board also agreed with the recommendation

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01:02:46,450 --> 01:02:52,090
of the Planning Commission to remove the numeric cap in June-Lake. Without a numeric cap,

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01:02:52,290 --> 01:02:58,090
a system is no longer required to grant available permits, so the first come, first serve wait

750
01:02:58,090 --> 01:03:03,450
list was also removed as a result. During public comment, June-Lake realtors

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01:03:03,450 --> 01:03:07,950
and property managers were opposed to the numeric cap, and one member of the public was

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01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:14,330
in support of the policy. So if the board decides to move forward with this revision, we would

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01:03:14,330 --> 01:03:23,750
need to make a few changes to the policy, so to action 1M, sorry, action 13, 1F, there's

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01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:30,750
a little bit of red line in there, as well as a small section of Mono County code. I just have

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01:03:30,750 --> 01:03:34,650
this flag, but we can also zoom in during deliberation if you guys would like to see your

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01:03:34,650 --> 01:03:35,750
edit the policies further.

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01:03:38,290 --> 01:03:42,610
Our third policy issue was to discourage business investment

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01:03:42,610 --> 01:03:48,110
in or commodification of housing. During the workshop, the two-year permit waiting period

759
01:03:48,110 --> 01:03:53,870
was changed to a one-year permit waiting period after the sale of a unit and after new construction.

760
01:03:54,850 --> 01:03:58,610
Realters were in favor of the exemption recommended by the Planning Commission, but were generally

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01:03:58,610 --> 01:04:02,570
opposed to the waiting period. And this is the

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01:04:02,570 --> 01:04:06,710
exemption, the waiting period exemption. So you can see the

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01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:10,590
straight through on item number four there. So the board

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01:04:10,590 --> 01:04:13,430
agreed to include the waiting period exemption with the two

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01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:17,370
revisions. So first to remove excess redwelling units, also

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01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:21,090
known as ADUs, rented on a long-term basis, and second to

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01:04:21,090 --> 01:04:23,990
remove the interlocking condos from the exemption list. So I

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01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:26,490
meant to point out the blue highlighted was the October changes,

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01:04:26,490 --> 01:04:28,250
but on the slide as well.

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01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:36,040
So during deliberation, the board also requested information

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01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:39,020
on the time required to process short-term rental permits

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,320
to inform collecting a time period.

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01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:43,760
Staff reviewed all permits from 2020

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01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,860
to the present and eliminated applications

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01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,620
processed under alternative methods during COVID,

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01:04:49,340 --> 01:04:52,080
as well as requests in non-residential land use designations

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01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,400
that did not require a 30-day noticing period.

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01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,320
The average processing time from application to application

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,820
acceptance to a public hearing.

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:18,040
At the planning commission, was 74 days or about two and a half months. An additional month or so was required to process the short-term mental activity permit. So it would be reasonable to assume that it takes about three to four months to process permits under the proposed system, which includes a use permit and short-term mental activity permit.

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01:05:20,420 --> 01:05:29,960
Our fourth policy issue was to preserve and encourage workforce housing units. The board supported the adoption of both policies on the screen, policy 1D9 and policy 1D10,

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01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:35,720
Again, to support the development of an incentive program as recommended by the Planning Commission,

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01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,700
no public comments were delivered on this topic.

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:50,880
If this change is, or sorry, one staff recommendation is to revise and remove the reference to the

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01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,400
numeric cap again under policy 1D9, so I have that on the screen, but we can again look

786
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,260
get it a little bit more in detail on a word version they've needed.

787
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,460
Our six policy issue was to create an equitable permitting process.

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01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:09,600
The board agreed to adopt the recommendation of the Planning Commission, which if adopted,

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01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:14,100
will standardize the permitting system for all short term rentals.

790
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,460
Public comments were generally not opposed to a consolidated permitting system, but a few

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01:06:19,460 --> 01:06:22,360
comments did touch on the interlock in condos.

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01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:29,840
So, as a separate issue, the Board adopted resolution 25-08-5, making existing non-conforming

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01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,040
findings to allow short-term rentals at the interlocking condos in Jude Lake.

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,220
This resolution also sparked the request for a general plan amendment to change the

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01:06:39,220 --> 01:06:41,360
land use designation of that parcel.

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:47,860
So applications for, or applications at the interlocking are now being processed under a vacation

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01:06:47,860 --> 01:06:51,960
and home rental permit, while the general plan amendment is underway.

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01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,820
And lastly, there was board consensus on a few recommendations of the planning commission.

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01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,300
First, to modify housing terminology for consistency.

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Second, to add a general exemption from standards and regulations provided specific findings can be met.

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01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:13,960
And third, to add text to the general exemption, indicating it only applies if other exemptions have not already been provided.

802
01:07:17,450 --> 01:07:22,010
And I did want to provide a screenshot of the general exemption because it is different

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01:07:22,010 --> 01:07:26,190
from the waiting period exemption, and I know there are a few questions about both.

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01:07:26,690 --> 01:07:32,790
And again, if needed, we can zoom in to the exemption language during deliberation.

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01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:39,740
So moving into the other requirements for the public hearing, general plan amendments required

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01:07:39,740 --> 01:07:42,620
analysis under the California Environmental Quality Act.

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01:07:43,580 --> 01:07:47,800
Community development finds that General Planning Amendment 20501 is consistent with a Class

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,640
1 categorical exemption under 15301.

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01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:58,180
Class 1 consists of the Operation Repair Maintenance Permitting, leasing licensing or minor alteration

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01:07:58,180 --> 01:08:04,500
of existing public or private structures involving negligible or no expansion of existing or former

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01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:04,820
use.

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01:08:05,540 --> 01:08:10,760
No new construction is associated with the approval process for short-term rentals, so General

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01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,740
plan amendment 25-1 qualifies as an existing facility's exemption.

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01:08:15,980 --> 01:08:20,940
And to adopt a general plan amendment, two findings under chapter 48 of the general plan

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01:08:20,940 --> 01:08:22,420
must be made in the affirmative.

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01:08:23,980 --> 01:08:28,040
We need development finds that the provisions are consistent with the general plan which encourage

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,740
the retention and development of residential housing units and the adjustments to the area

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01:08:32,740 --> 01:08:38,660
plans align terms and apply a countywide policy on safety infrastructure, which is specific to June

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01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:38,900
lake.

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,460
And lastly, general plan amendments are subject to noticing, and this project was

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01:08:46,460 --> 01:08:52,300
noticed pursuant to state law. Eight public comments were received prior to the public hearing,

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01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:57,740
which were provided to you today, and all that one letter was received from homeowners at the

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01:08:57,740 --> 01:08:58,680
interlocking condos.

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01:09:01,940 --> 01:09:06,500
So the first set of letters are mostly concerned with the ability to short-term

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01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:12,320
rent at the interlocking condos. As mentioned, the resolution adopted in October allows units

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:17,000
It's to be rented on a short-term basis through a vacation home rental permit while the general

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,420
plan amendment is underway, so that component is taken care of.

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01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:25,780
Three of the four points that were, or three of the four points mentioned in the public comment

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01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:28,220
letters were also addressed by the board in October.

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:35,440
The consensus, the one in bold here is, I guess, the most notable one, and

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01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:39,260
the consensus in October was to remove the interlocking condos from the waiting period exemption

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01:09:39,260 --> 01:09:48,960
list to apply the same standards to all condominium units once the designation of interlocking is changed to advance an equitable permitting process.

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01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:56,660
And with that, I will pass it to Wendy to cover the last public comment from the MLA exporter realtors.

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01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:08,860
Thank you, Olya. So consistent with our past presentations, we just wanted to cover the

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01:10:08,860 --> 01:10:15,040
Mammoth Lakes Board of Realty, comment letter, point by point. They made a comment about

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01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:20,100
the waiting period being inconsistent with private property rights, but as previously

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01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:24,720
stated, short-term rentals are not a private property right. And there are temporary rental

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:30,440
rights available at a property through the long-term model. That is not being taken away or

839
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:35,360
affected. So properties can be rented on a temporary basis and this does not restrict

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,380
anyone's property rights. And there's a comment about ambiguity in the exemption process

841
01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:51,160
that the findings that are required to really prevent non-hosted rentals from being able

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01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:56,520
to qualify. And the findings really are not crafted to support or not support any particular

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01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:02,480
type of project, they are based on the goals of this policy set, and so to the extent

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01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:06,720
that those findings apply or don't apply to any particular project, you know, that's

845
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:11,760
how a project qualifies for it, not because any sort of project is trying to be encouraged

846
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,340
or discouraged under this policy set.

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01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:18,140
It's really the goals that are the purpose in establishing those findings.

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01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:29,160
And then there was a comment that under the waiting period exemption, saying that the

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01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:39,500
exemptions apply to at least the following things made it unclear, that language had

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01:11:39,500 --> 01:11:44,900
originally been in there, the at least part had been in there because the intention had

851
01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:49,260
been to allow for those exemptions to apply in addition to the general exemption.

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01:11:49,980 --> 01:11:55,780
And if the board recalls at the last workshop, there were comments made by the realtors

853
01:11:55,780 --> 01:12:00,920
under the general exemption to make it very clear that the general exemption only applies

854
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,960
when no other exemption applies and so that language change was made.

855
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:09,380
So yes, the at least terminology could be eliminated.

856
01:12:09,380 --> 01:12:33,940
You know, the original intention of the language was to provide flexibility for all the exemptions to be able to apply if the property qualified for it, but at the request of the real terms, it's really been segmented at this point into, you know, just those exemptions for the waiting period and just the general exemption, so if a property, you know, could have had some flexibility and applying for both that doesn't apply anymore.

857
01:12:33,940 --> 01:12:39,360
I don't think it changes the meaning or the authority under the regulations because

858
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,780
of the way the language reads right now, but if there's a desire to make it clear that

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01:12:44,780 --> 01:12:46,540
at least language could be eliminated.

860
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:55,060
Short-term rental inspection requirements rather than signing in affidavit, the new policies

861
01:12:55,060 --> 01:13:03,560
require the proposed policies require an inspection to be completed at the properties and the comment

862
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:08,860
letter stated that there's an additional burden placed on homeowners in order to get these

863
01:13:08,860 --> 01:13:13,520
inspections done and that is true. There will be an expense, there will be a delay, there

864
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:19,780
will be an additional step for homeowners to complete. I think that was, you know, the intention

865
01:13:19,780 --> 01:13:26,100
of these policies is to ensure that the homes are safe. There's actual, an actual record of the

866
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:29,900
home being safe, not just a homeowner signing off on it, you know, potentially without really

867
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:36,320
reading all of the requirements and so to have somebody actually look at it and that property owners

868
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:41,860
demonstrate their ability to check all of these boxes and be a responsible renting party.

869
01:13:42,460 --> 01:13:46,980
That was part of the requirement, you know, the intention of the requirement and so yes,

870
01:13:47,140 --> 01:13:51,340
it does place an additional burden on the homeowners to demonstrate those things.

871
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:57,280
But there will be inspectors available. This is the same process that the town currently follows.

872
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:03,120
We have a checklist, a draft checklist that can be used, so there will be support and

873
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,280
resources available for homeowners to take this on and complete it.

874
01:14:06,380 --> 01:14:09,580
It's not an impractical or unrealistic requirement.

875
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,620
The question is simply, the board has given direction to include this, and so the question

876
01:14:15,620 --> 01:14:18,120
is simply to the board, do you wish to stand by that?

877
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:26,200
Another comment under the inspection requirements was that the scope is too broad because it requires

878
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,840
There's compliance with the general plan in its totality.

879
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:35,560
It could be, that language could be revised to add compliance with Motel County General

880
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:42,460
Plan Chapter 25 and be specific to Chapter 25, but under the use permit really compliance

881
01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:44,360
with the general plan is required also.

882
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:50,980
So this is not different than any other requirements for the permitting process that we currently have

883
01:14:50,980 --> 01:14:51,340
in place.

884
01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:56,100
We could add that specificity if it helps clarify to people but it doesn't change the

885
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:59,960
meaning. It doesn't change the meaning of what we would do, how we would process it.

886
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,140
And what's required. Some internal inconsistencies were pointed out that the first section, I won't go through and read all the numbers and letters. The first section where the affidavit by the property owner was required in the past is no longer necessary because an inspection is required now. If it's the board's pleasure, we could remove the language requiring the affidavit. It also doesn't hurt to have it in there.

887
01:15:28,140 --> 01:15:39,940
to have the homeowner sign off on an affidavit that says they have verified that all of these things are met in their unit in addition to having the third party inspection.

888
01:15:41,180 --> 01:15:46,840
However, with the third party inspection, it could also be eliminated and it doesn't really change the nature of the provision.

889
01:15:47,180 --> 01:15:54,280
So I would say that's really just a processing question and at the board's pleasure whether to keep it or eliminate it.

890
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,520
Um, it doesn't change a whole lot about the process or the permit.

891
01:15:58,100 --> 01:15:59,460
We need, yes.

892
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:05,940
So this, the, the copy we have is different than what's on the slide.

893
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,760
Um, apologies.

894
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,660
We were working on this this morning because the comments came in at the last minute.

895
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,940
So that may have just been an error on our part.

896
01:16:14,660 --> 01:16:18,200
So the correct language is in our hand or up there.

897
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,100
You added a, uh, O for O point D.

898
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:26,960
Are you looking at the slide show?

899
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,880
I'm looking at that as opposed to what's in front of it.

900
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:32,420
Yeah, the slide show copy.

901
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:47,320
0.65070D6 is the language requiring that the affidavit could be removed?

902
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:50,700
Okay, never mind.

903
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,040
Okay, and then the next one is?

904
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,380
Yeah, 5.65070D6C.

905
01:16:58,180 --> 01:16:59,160
Okay, sorry.

906
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,480
Yeah, that's all right.

907
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:08,340
And then the common letter suggested this language change to this provision that if

908
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:13,340
an adult relative of the property owner without a long term lease is the host, then the

909
01:17:13,340 --> 01:17:19,800
following provisions apply and that if that provides clarity that is fine to make that

910
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,560
language change should the board want that.

911
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:35,380
It just makes it clear if this one is related to the definition of a host and who can host a

912
01:17:35,380 --> 01:17:41,240
short-term rental and so currently it just reads if an adult relative without a long-term lease is

913
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:53,900
a host, but if it's a long-term relative, the host has to be an adult long-term relative

914
01:17:53,900 --> 01:17:57,020
or someone who's actually renting the property, right?

915
01:17:57,420 --> 01:18:00,780
And so just to make it clear that the relative is a relative

916
01:18:00,780 --> 01:18:03,900
of the property owner, that language could be changed

917
01:18:04,580 --> 01:18:05,340
if desired.

918
01:18:06,020 --> 01:18:08,540
That's just a clarification, but again, I don't think it actually

919
01:18:08,540 --> 01:18:14,380
changes the intent of the regulation.

920
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:22,680
And then the next section 5.65080D7, the comment

921
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:35,040
One of the reasons that a permit could be denied is if there is an existing code enforcement case or notice a violation on the property.

922
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:42,800
And the comment was to restrict that notice a violation or enforcement case to just issues related to short term rentals.

923
01:18:42,800 --> 01:19:03,740
But, you know, this actually goes back to the 2016 conversations that we had in the community about adding on more regulations and the ability of the county to enforce, and part of the philosophy behind all of these regulations that the county has is that it is very important

924
01:19:03,740 --> 01:19:09,500
and who is being permitted to rent, and that they demonstrate that they will be good neighbors,

925
01:19:10,340 --> 01:19:16,160
that they have the ability to comply with county regulations, and that they will be cooperative in complying with county regulations.

926
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:26,000
Because as the board knows, and as the public knows, it is somewhat common to try to circumvent those regulations,

927
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:31,240
and short-term rent without getting the proper permits, right?

928
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:37,460
And so for us to have to chase people down, takes a lot of time, takes a lot of effort.

929
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:46,540
The amount of and the type of evidence that we have to collect is a pretty high bar for the county.

930
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:53,020
And so when we are granting permits, we want to make sure that the people that we are granting permits to are above board and

931
01:19:53,020 --> 01:19:59,920
responsible and comply and stay legal at all times with everything in order.

932
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:19,920
I would like to demonstrate that responsibility and show that they would be good short-term rental owners. So that's really the idea behind this. You know, if the board wishes, you could restrict the scope more, but the thought behind it is that a responsible owner will generally comply with regulations overall.

933
01:20:22,060 --> 01:20:25,480
Section 5.65, 040D.

934
01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:36,520
The question was about being able to pass short-term rental permitting to LLCs, and that

935
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:41,620
that should not trigger new ownership, and this language was specifically added, and

936
01:20:41,620 --> 01:20:45,980
this is where having Aaron Washco on the project with his legal background was really helpful.

937
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:49,400
And then Emily weighed in on it as well.

938
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:55,720
Well, you know, this, the language that's in there was specifically added to close this loophole, right?

939
01:20:55,820 --> 01:21:02,080
Because if it's an LLC and the membership changes in an LLC, it would be a completely new set of owners,

940
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,720
but it would not trigger an ownership change on the property.

941
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:10,600
And therefore, the, somebody could pass on a short-term rental essentially to a new set of people,

942
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,020
without ever triggering that ownership change on the property,

943
01:21:15,020 --> 01:21:21,140
which would require the new owners and new people to go through a new permitting process, right?

944
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:27,340
And so in order to close that loophole, the policies say that a natural person,

945
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:33,560
so a corporation like an LLC cannot own the short-term rental permitting, it must be a natural person.

946
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:39,240
As long as that person stays in the LLC, there's no issue, right?

947
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:44,040
The other membership in the LLC or have whatever their financial arrangement is can continue.

948
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:49,300
You know, it's that one person who owns the short-term rental, that must remain in place.

949
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:57,900
And then, but if that person leaves and, you know, the LLC that is behind it, then

950
01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:02,000
wants to still own it, they have to have a new applicant for it, and it does trigger

951
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,080
the change of ownership requirements and the permitting does not get passed on.

952
01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:12,440
So, I hope that makes sense, but it was intended to close the LLC loophole.

953
01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:17,040
It doesn't close it entirely, but it closes some of it.

954
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:28,420
And then the letter requested delay in the adoption of these policies in order to engage the public furthermore and

955
01:22:28,420 --> 01:22:32,500
collaborate with Man with Lakes Board of Realtors and the Realty Community.

956
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:41,220
I hope that we have demonstrated that there has been an extensive public engagement process from the survey to all of the meetings that were held.

957
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:48,500
to workshops and field trip in June Lake, and there were invitations to the realtors to collaborate.

958
01:22:49,460 --> 01:22:54,660
Unfortunately, that didn't go as we had hoped, after that the realtor, the nameless exporter

959
01:22:54,660 --> 01:23:00,760
realty engaged in their own study and their own survey, and things kind of went in that direction.

960
01:23:01,020 --> 01:23:04,780
And so I think all of those opportunities have been explored to this point.

961
01:23:04,780 --> 01:23:06,900
There's been a lot of opportunity for public comment.

962
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:11,900
and the changes and modifications to the policies,

963
01:23:13,180 --> 01:23:15,260
even from the last workshop to this point,

964
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,220
have tried to respond to all of the public comments

965
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,160
that are in keeping with the goals of the policy project

966
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,860
and a lot of changes have been made in response to those.

967
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,580
So the recommendation is to move forward

968
01:23:29,580 --> 01:23:32,280
with the adoption of the resolution and the ordinance.

969
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:34,480
Okay.

970
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,240
I just want to clarify one thing you mentioned

971
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:54,060
on the inspection requirements, so that's currently required already by the town, so there are inspectors in place.

972
01:23:54,940 --> 01:23:59,180
Is there a cost to the town charges?

973
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:08,900
There is a cost related to it and it's what the inspectors charge the homeowner, so it's a process kind of outside.

974
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:17,240
So they have to get the inspection done in order to have a complete application to submit for the town to process, or in this case for the county to process.

975
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:25,640
So it would be like work that they get done beforehand as part of putting together their application submittal and that's a private arrangement between them and the inspector.

976
01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:29,820
So I'm trying to ascertain so are those aspectors, town employees?

977
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,740
No. So that's an independent inspector on our case.

978
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:36,720
Do you have any idea what the cost is?

979
01:24:37,420 --> 01:24:37,960
I don't.

980
01:24:53,660 --> 01:24:55,220
Well, I don't have questions.

981
01:24:55,460 --> 01:24:55,760
I have some.

982
01:24:57,930 --> 01:24:59,770
Um, you know, on the waiting.

983
01:25:02,780 --> 01:25:29,580
I don't see a slide number, but issue three, waiting period exemptions, an exemption from the one-year waiting period after the sale of a unit or completion of construction shall be provided for at least the following circumstances. And there's three circumstances. And the first is that the short term rental has been properly permitted.

984
01:25:29,580 --> 01:25:35,260
and continuously operated for a minimum of the past two years.

985
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:45,260
I struggle with this because it really makes that home a commodity,

986
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,300
because it just rolls with it.

987
01:25:48,620 --> 01:25:54,600
When will it ever have an opportunity to not be a short term rental?

988
01:25:54,600 --> 01:26:04,120
if every time it sells, it doesn't have to wait. I don't know if that makes sense to you, but

989
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:09,840
yeah, and to me, I think that's the wrong thing for us to do to our housing stock

990
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,620
is to ensure that if you've been using it as a short-term rental for two years,

991
01:26:15,340 --> 01:26:20,240
the new owner can automatically keep using it as short-term rental.

992
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:34,720
And I'd like to see us strike that so that we create an opportunity for somebody to buy it without it automatically being priced as a short term rental.

993
01:26:40,180 --> 01:26:45,980
What do you, I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Supervisor McFarlane, I know this is in your district.

994
01:26:53,450 --> 01:27:01,090
It is a concern. I mean, because, and I follow your logic, basically the logic is once something gets into the short term rental program, it is permanently lost.

995
01:27:01,090 --> 01:27:14,460
long-term housing, you know, that being said where I fall perhaps is somewhere less than

996
01:27:14,460 --> 01:27:23,290
logical but definitely less than perfect and it's that this is an exemption that is

997
01:27:23,290 --> 01:27:27,850
born of compromise, but your logic is correct.

998
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:36,160
Right, and I appreciate that we're making compromises here, but you know, we have an

999
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:44,040
item later on our agenda I think it's seven age could be wrong. I don't want to miss people

1000
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,380
and I have a agenda right here in front of me. No, yeah, the housing. Yeah, the housing

1001
01:27:47,380 --> 01:27:54,080
related to setting up update. You know, and we're losing people at a really striking and sad rate

1002
01:27:54,080 --> 01:28:01,080
of our people here. 104 people a year in our community and our county. And Inno County isn't seeing

1003
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:06,760
that kind of loss. Actually, they're seeing a gain. And I have to think that part of it,

1004
01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:11,660
I mean, nothing is there's no silver bullet or silver cause on all of this, but a lot of it

1005
01:28:11,660 --> 01:28:16,480
is the cost of living. And they even say that in the report that we're going to hear later

1006
01:28:17,380 --> 01:28:27,560
and cost of living is cost of shelter. And I'm really struggling that we by making these compromises

1007
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,880
were compromised in our population, were compromised in our community and the vitality

1008
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:37,300
and the sustainability of having communities. We certainly already have a

1009
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:45,920
a dearth of community members in district five, no not five three,

1010
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,840
and you know I just

1011
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:57,040
But what we're compromising, I feel like a way, the health and vitality of our community

1012
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:05,920
for the sake of a strong realtor body that's really pushing for sales for the use of

1013
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:06,760
short-term rental.

1014
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:12,320
And it just, it doesn't strike me as the right thing for us to be doing, but I understand

1015
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,720
that my colleagues don't agree, but that is my statement.

1016
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:17,920
Thank you.

1017
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:18,780
So

1018
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,800
this afternoon's presentation on housing is shocking.

1019
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:43,260
The numbers are frankly depressing and this isn't something for many of us that is theoretical.

1020
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:44,740
We live it.

1021
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,740
We work to fill in the blanks as much as we can.

1022
01:29:47,740 --> 01:29:59,980
I think one thing that surprised me again when I read through the, and I

1023
01:30:00,140 --> 01:30:05,620
And when you went through the area overviews of what the regulations are in different areas,

1024
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:18,080
Mono City, no short-term rentals, June Lake, a large amount of how, a very small amount

1025
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:28,700
of no. Long Valley, nope, Wheelercrest, nope, Paradise, no, Drive Valley, no, Antelope Valley

1026
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:37,360
Bridgeport I believe there may be one or two in Bridgeport so I think you know this does largely

1027
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:44,880
fall within one community but it also falls in another which is leaveining which is largely

1028
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:52,440
zone commercial and there are huge amount of gains and housing protection to come from this package

1029
01:30:52,440 --> 01:31:00,160
which as presented by creating a single point of a single door to walk through a single

1030
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:07,100
permanent process, especially because it raises the bar for converting a single family

1031
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:11,380
home within commercial to a short-term rental.

1032
01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:17,540
I was an advocate for issue three, the waiting period to ensure that the waiting period stayed

1033
01:31:18,460 --> 01:31:27,920
We have that conversation last year because I think two years is an ample cooling off period for someone looking to commodify a private property.

1034
01:31:30,380 --> 01:31:45,040
I feel that the continuous operating exemption while frustrating is part of a compromise and acknowledges some places that are already in the system.

1035
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:53,640
but, you know, I do also acknowledge that that equals permanent loss of housing units.

1036
01:31:57,340 --> 01:32:05,140
I think I find myself exceedingly frustrated also with what I see is a lot of purposeful

1037
01:32:05,140 --> 01:32:14,320
misinformation that has been directed, a failure to acknowledge the extensive work and

1038
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:21,980
back and forth that has gone into this, but at this point I'm done with this. We've done this

1039
01:32:21,980 --> 01:32:28,980
for way too long. We have actual solutions to work on. We need to move on. I support the package

1040
01:32:28,980 --> 01:32:36,180
as presented. Do I wish it was stronger? Yes, but we are where we are and I think we have other work

1041
01:32:36,180 --> 01:32:40,120
that we need to focus on. It would support the current proposal.

1042
01:32:49,590 --> 01:32:51,390
It's just the only thing that

1043
01:32:51,390 --> 01:32:58,230
Maybe I can comment about, you're talking about the different areas that have short-term rental.

1044
01:32:59,270 --> 01:33:05,650
A lot of that is based on the counties lack of infrastructure in those areas to support the things that people want to do.

1045
01:33:07,710 --> 01:33:20,130
And especially in district two, but seeing that we're down to a mixed area of infrastructure supported in a way,

1046
01:33:20,130 --> 01:33:30,670
but also desire to be there today and if you're happy with you're happy with this at this point

1047
01:33:30,670 --> 01:33:39,110
I do think it's been refined and everything it's down to anymore or working on exceptions

1048
01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:49,170
to the role there and trying to find ways to anticipate ways people

1049
01:33:50,130 --> 01:33:55,410
may try to find, well, that doesn't really apply to me and I want to make going forward.

1050
01:33:55,930 --> 01:33:57,950
I think this is probably the best that you could do.

1051
01:33:58,230 --> 01:34:05,010
We've made for those that weren't aware and so on public comment that we have addressed

1052
01:34:05,010 --> 01:34:06,110
the interlocking issue.

1053
01:34:07,230 --> 01:34:18,410
And I think to, unless I interpret it wrong, totally possible in the last week, that we've

1054
01:34:18,410 --> 01:34:25,370
accommodating those understanding that's there. That issue is unique. I agree to it. Will

1055
01:34:25,370 --> 01:34:34,390
somebody come forward with an equally unique? Yes. Very concerned about the loss of long-term

1056
01:34:34,390 --> 01:34:44,150
rentals and availability. Really concerned now for an area that what are we going to do in the meantime?

1057
01:34:44,890 --> 01:34:51,110
But that's, you know, maybe anecdotal today may not be tomorrow.

1058
01:34:52,010 --> 01:34:56,790
So I'm happy with the work that's gone into this.

1059
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,820
The immense amount of work that staff has done. And it seemed so easy in the beginning to do that, but realize we're not one size fits all. There. And the areas that it's addressing are allow economic growth and development in an area that we just don't have any more land. And this is what we have to work with. So I support it at this level.

1060
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:35,120
I'm sure there will be some other things that we didn't anticipate, somebody else will figure out.

1061
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:43,640
And that's what an amendment is for, and we'll be hearing that in the future, because every day is a new day.

1062
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:46,360
Does that appear?

1063
01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:50,180
Yeah, I mean, it's a June-like issue.

1064
01:35:50,540 --> 01:35:52,940
I think this addresses that.

1065
01:35:52,940 --> 01:36:00,260
That, you know, I support Sylvester McFarlane's comments and bears frustration as well, but

1066
01:36:00,260 --> 01:36:09,280
I support this really until something it's done in this town, a mammoth, to have the

1067
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:14,660
waiting period do something, to maybe open up three up some short-term rentals to the long-term

1068
01:36:14,660 --> 01:36:15,040
market.

1069
01:36:16,220 --> 01:36:20,820
We're not going to, the rest of the county is not impacted, but you can see the numbers.

1070
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:30,160
I mean, one here, one there, this is, that's the focus that maybe we can look at as how

1071
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:37,820
do we communicate to the town, you know, like you think that if you add some sort of

1072
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:46,820
regulation in place that maybe encourage people to long-term purchase from, you know, transition

1073
01:36:46,820 --> 01:36:47,980
in a short term, the long term.

1074
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,740
But I think what we're doing here is addressing

1075
01:36:51,740 --> 01:36:54,360
and compromising, or June like.

1076
01:36:54,660 --> 01:36:57,360
And I think it's, I was presented.

1077
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,760
And I think we baited it in a meaningful way

1078
01:37:01,480 --> 01:37:03,660
in our workshop.

1079
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:07,700
All right, thanks, everybody.

1080
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,220
That being said, let's ask,

1081
01:37:14,780 --> 01:37:15,460
oh, we have a break?

1082
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:15,960
Absolutely.

1083
01:37:16,180 --> 01:37:16,420
Let's see.

1084
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:18,140
Can I just respond?

1085
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:36,120
The town and jimber actually do have a program that they pay for people to long-term rent their homes if they've been short-term renting them to encourage long-term rentals to take short-term rentals off the books.

1086
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:43,300
They have a lot of programs, they're building a wealth of housing for all incomes, but

1087
01:37:43,300 --> 01:37:51,040
primarily the income group that we see in our report on 7D that we need the most of

1088
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:52,660
is that 80% and below.

1089
01:37:53,260 --> 01:37:57,980
And they have 80 units, there's another 174 coming online.

1090
01:37:58,440 --> 01:38:02,840
They have four sale units that are de-restricted on Joaquin.

1091
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:07,580
They've got the access apartments, which are 80% and below, and they're all in here.

1092
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:15,480
So I don't want to say that the town is the reason June Lake has short-term rental.

1093
01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:19,740
They have short-term rental because people want a short-term rent in June Lake.

1094
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,880
Because June Lake is June Lake, it's not mammoth lakes.

1095
01:38:23,140 --> 01:38:28,440
If they wanted a short-term rent in the mammoth, there's plenty of them to short-term rent.

1096
01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:34,520
It is a June Lake issue because June Lake is beautiful.

1097
01:38:34,980 --> 01:38:41,060
It's got a lot of outdoor recreation and amenities people want to go there.

1098
01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:45,140
It's on us to create the policy to protect the community.

1099
01:38:53,170 --> 01:38:59,690
Madam Chair, before we take a break, our background team has been researching the question you

1100
01:38:59,690 --> 01:39:04,710
ask about how much does an inspection cost and our understanding just based on anecdotal

1101
01:39:04,710 --> 01:39:09,510
information being able to ask those in that private marketplace is that a private inspection

1102
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:14,290
is between 180 to $250 to get certified to submit your application.

1103
01:39:14,810 --> 01:39:15,070
Thank you.

1104
01:39:15,490 --> 01:39:15,830
All right.

1105
01:39:16,150 --> 01:39:17,530
That being said, let's take a break.

1106
01:39:17,850 --> 01:39:21,290
Let's return at 1050.

1107
01:54:00,270 --> 01:54:07,690
And let's, sorry, we're a little late there, but we're back. Okay, let's then take, let's

1108
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:16,600
take it where we are here. So, public comment. Please come forward for public comment.

1109
01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:36,720
June Lake, and here I'm going to be talking about something that I've already said several times, but doing this one year, two year, five year waiting period.

1110
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:44,040
It is at best naive to think this will create any additional workforce housing at all.

1111
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:51,160
Because June Lake, it will go back to the 1920s, and we'll have the same kind of people that are coming up.

1112
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,220
Then they'll come up now.

1113
01:54:54,780 --> 01:54:59,260
These are wealthy people that are buying a place in June like a piece of their dream.

1114
01:54:59,260 --> 01:54:59,960
you

1115
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,980
And we can extend this waiting period and all we're going to do is encourage that market. And we already see it. I'm not a realtor. And I like the way they say realtors there. We're also voters. And we're also, you know, we're also citizens involved in the community. And I'm not even a realtor. But we sit here and we're creating June Lake is unique. And it's not mammoth. I don't know if

1116
01:55:29,980 --> 01:55:35,780
about the town of Mammoth. Mammoth has created a lot of workforce housing and there to be

1117
01:55:35,780 --> 01:55:44,600
commended on it. But unless you guys take some actions to go forward and 10 years we're going to

1118
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:52,900
have the same discussions in the gap between long-term rentals and wealthy property owners is just

1119
01:55:52,900 --> 01:56:01,080
going to get greater and greater. It's supply and demand. Wealthy people want places like

1120
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:07,500
to like. Wealthy people aren't moved and while I can't say that to Bridgeport, Bridgeport's

1121
01:56:07,500 --> 01:56:14,440
tougher up there. So there's not as much demand for work for our for short term rules, but we're

1122
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:21,220
creating a mess and to think that these rules here all we're going to see is

1123
01:56:21,220 --> 01:56:27,700
identify unintended consequences. And like right now we have a unit that

1124
01:56:27,700 --> 01:56:33,440
sells and somebody else comes in and buy it they have a one year two year whatever

1125
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:41,760
heck you want. We'll have 30 or 40 or 50 reservations for that property for the

1126
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:48,360
next year. And these are people that come up every year, same property for a large percentage

1127
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:55,380
of them. And what are we going to do to them? And there are key to our economy too. That's it.

1128
01:56:55,580 --> 01:56:58,720
I've said it all before. Thank you. Thank you very much.

1129
01:56:58,900 --> 01:57:00,140
Thank you. You want to ask please?

1130
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,200
Honorable board members, my name is Heidi Vetter.

1131
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:18,360
I'm a real

1132
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:22,380
rather shallow to me to be discussing regulating shirt from rentals.

1133
01:57:23,300 --> 01:57:28,040
However, today is the last opportunity that I have to address you on this issue,

1134
01:57:28,300 --> 01:57:31,280
so I did want to make a statement.

1135
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:38,440
We find ourselves at the crux of three and a half years' effort to address affordable housing

1136
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:42,100
and establish reasonable regulations for short-term rentals.

1137
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:48,960
What saddens me, and frankly amazes me, is the amount of time, energy, and money that

1138
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:54,560
has been focused on attempting to regulate roughly 3% of the unincorporated area of

1139
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,960
monocowning, specifically doing makeup.

1140
01:57:58,340 --> 01:58:03,680
I referenced 3% because the short tour and the toll market in June make had effectively

1141
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:10,220
become self-regulating following the extensive community work, collaboration, and agreements

1142
01:58:10,220 --> 01:58:21,120
Since we developed in 2016-17, these proposed regulations affect approximately 125 properties

1143
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:29,200
previously eligible for short term rentals out of the 4,200 residential units in unincorporated

1144
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:29,840
Mono County.

1145
01:58:31,300 --> 01:58:36,280
I have followed the Board of Supervisors very closely this last year, and the hundreds

1146
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:44,980
of individual contracts, partnerships and issues you guys manage each month is totally inconceivable.

1147
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:53,100
I have respect and appreciation for each one of you and thank you for what you do on behalf of our

1148
01:58:53,100 --> 01:59:01,700
residents. Therefore, it's confounding to me that the county has chosen to devote so such extraordinary

1149
01:59:01,700 --> 01:59:09,260
resources and time to regulate short-term rentals in June Lake, when a well-defined clear and

1150
01:59:09,260 --> 01:59:14,440
streamlined approach would serve the county and its residents much more effectively.

1151
01:59:15,580 --> 01:59:21,880
All of this, in certainty, will not end here. With the changes you're preparing to vote on,

1152
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:26,620
all short-term rental permits would be required to go through the Planning Commission,

1153
01:59:26,620 --> 01:59:30,480
with any appeals going directly to the Board of Supervisors.

1154
01:59:31,180 --> 01:59:38,600
This will only create more work, more process, and more strain on the county staff and time.

1155
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:43,920
I urge you not to vote on these resolutions, ordinances, and

1156
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:48,300
general plan changes that drastically alter the county's land use structure,

1157
01:59:48,540 --> 01:59:53,780
until a more thoughtful, comprehensive, and clear approach can be developed.

1158
01:59:53,780 --> 01:59:59,980
when that can be sustained in the long term and supports growth in all the communities you go.

1159
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,320
Thank you for hearing my thoughts. Thank you. Anyone else? I can speak to anyone online.

1160
02:00:11,140 --> 02:00:12,880
There are no hands raised on Zoom.

1161
02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:19,050
Any for the deliberation?

1162
02:00:24,630 --> 02:00:38,610
I just wanted to let everyone know that during the break, I handed out a printout and I'll share it on the screen right now.

1163
02:00:38,610 --> 02:00:46,670
of the proposed modifications in response to public comment and then the language to adopt

1164
02:00:46,670 --> 02:00:50,910
just to make a complete recommendation, you know, provide the complete recommendation

1165
02:00:50,910 --> 02:00:52,030
language for the board.

1166
02:00:53,130 --> 02:00:57,990
Copies are available here in the board chambers for any members of the public who are interested

1167
02:00:58,710 --> 02:01:00,590
and let me just pull this up.

1168
02:01:01,670 --> 02:01:04,170
We need does that include the one-year waiting period on here?

1169
02:01:04,450 --> 02:01:05,210
Is that one of the provisions?

1170
02:01:05,210 --> 02:01:09,630
So, the one year waiting period is already part of the proposal package.

1171
02:01:10,190 --> 02:01:18,190
These are just changes that are not part of the policy package as it was published in the Board's agenda.

1172
02:01:18,710 --> 02:01:20,710
That are suggested because of the public comments.

1173
02:01:20,710 --> 02:01:22,430
This is in addition to-

1174
02:01:22,430 --> 02:01:24,470
Yeah, so this is in addition to the Board.

1175
02:01:25,490 --> 02:01:28,850
If the Board wants to accept these modifications and

1176
02:01:28,850 --> 02:01:33,370
the recommendation would be to make these three modifications, A, B and C, and

1177
02:01:33,370 --> 02:01:34,870
and then adopt the resolution in ordinance.

1178
02:01:35,190 --> 02:01:37,630
I just wanted to make sure that the recommended action

1179
02:01:38,110 --> 02:01:41,470
is very clear on the points that we are approving.

1180
02:01:42,650 --> 02:01:44,810
As listed here in agenda,

1181
02:01:46,870 --> 02:01:51,850
it doesn't call out the waiting period and purchase them.

1182
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:54,820
I'm sorry.

1183
02:01:58,070 --> 02:02:01,490
I know the waiting period has not been approved yet, right?

1184
02:02:01,650 --> 02:02:03,750
It was direction given at the last workshop

1185
02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:06,450
and it is in this policy package,

1186
02:02:06,450 --> 02:02:15,130
The specific language showing the waiting period is an attachment to the joint resolution and ordinance.

1187
02:02:15,510 --> 02:02:16,070
It's an exhibit.

1188
02:02:16,830 --> 02:02:25,870
So by adopting the joint resolution and ordinance, the board is adopting the full red line package that was published in the board agenda, which includes the waiting period.

1189
02:02:25,870 --> 02:02:31,970
We're going to put out of our agenda at what we were actually, because I want to be really clear, the public.

1190
02:02:32,930 --> 02:02:32,970
Right.

1191
02:02:33,850 --> 02:02:47,410
So do we want to amend this bill or change the wording and the recommended action at all to make it more clear bullet point into what we're actually voting on rather than kind of vaguely and then this modification.

1192
02:02:47,630 --> 02:02:50,090
Is there a way to do that or is that?

1193
02:02:51,230 --> 02:02:52,530
It's in the resolution.

1194
02:02:52,530 --> 02:02:57,450
It's all resolution and we're approving number two is the resolution.

1195
02:02:57,950 --> 02:02:58,870
Yeah, it's there.

1196
02:02:59,290 --> 02:02:59,950
All there.

1197
02:03:00,470 --> 02:03:01,730
That being

1198
02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:10,790
said, everyone feels that's clear enough and what's in the resolution is clear enough.

1199
02:03:11,330 --> 02:03:11,830
All right.

1200
02:03:12,330 --> 02:03:14,490
We would then look at a recommended action.

1201
02:03:14,770 --> 02:03:20,950
We have held the public hearing and we're following every all the deliberation and the closure of the public hearing.

1202
02:03:21,290 --> 02:03:24,250
Ready to adopt the resolution ordinance.

1203
02:03:25,070 --> 02:03:26,310
So do we have a motion?

1204
02:03:27,150 --> 02:03:32,930
We'll make a motion to approve as amended with the items 1 and 2.

1205
02:03:38,730 --> 02:03:39,210
Motion?

1206
02:03:39,890 --> 02:03:40,370
Second.

1207
02:03:40,910 --> 02:03:41,790
Motion is second.

1208
02:03:42,390 --> 02:03:43,390
Let's do roll call, please.

1209
02:03:47,070 --> 02:03:47,570
The resolution.

1210
02:03:48,290 --> 02:03:48,830
Oh, yes, please.

1211
02:03:49,890 --> 02:03:50,470
Thanks, President.

1212
02:03:51,850 --> 02:03:53,350
We have formal reading in the resolution.

1213
02:03:54,270 --> 02:03:54,450
All right.

1214
02:03:54,790 --> 02:03:55,690
Let's do roll call.

1215
02:03:56,630 --> 02:03:57,950
Supervisor Dugan, how do you vote?

1216
02:03:58,930 --> 02:03:59,090
Yes.

1217
02:03:59,990 --> 02:04:01,250
Supervisor Crites, how do you vote?

1218
02:04:01,670 --> 02:04:01,790
No.

1219
02:04:01,790 --> 02:04:04,770
Now, to Provisor McFarlane, how do you vote?

1220
02:04:05,150 --> 02:04:05,530
Yes.

1221
02:04:07,010 --> 02:04:08,210
Provisor Peters, how do you vote?

1222
02:04:08,450 --> 02:04:08,630
Yes.

1223
02:04:09,250 --> 02:04:10,770
And Chairs, I'll see how do you vote?

1224
02:04:11,130 --> 02:04:11,270
Yes.

1225
02:04:11,870 --> 02:04:14,230
We have four yeses, one no, motion passes.

1226
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:17,540
Okay.

1227
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,300
As inappropriate as it may feel at the moment,

1228
02:04:23,220 --> 02:04:24,520
vote it on and approved.

1229
02:04:25,900 --> 02:04:28,380
And then Madam Chair, just one procedural item.

1230
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:29,920
Thank you to County Council back

1231
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:32,480
for that ordinance language about waving the reading.

1232
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:33,980
And then we will have to bring it back

1233
02:04:33,980 --> 02:04:38,000
for a second reading and adoption for the ordinance part of it, which is just

1234
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:41,480
procedural. So you'll see that on your consent agenda at the next meeting. Thank

1235
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:49,400
you very much. Okay, that will bring us then to the next public hearing, which is

1236
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:54,600
a community development block grant, CBDG application, and I think CEO more

1237
02:04:54,600 --> 02:04:59,980
really is going to walk us through that. Yes, I will kick it off. As we do

1238
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,640
We have a consultant online as well, Queen, if you can promote them. So the state community development block grant was released in September of this year, and the CDBG is available for a broad number of improvements, community items, including housing, infrastructure, those types of things, all of those are listed, or a summary of those are listed in the staff report. And in order to apply for CDBG funding, we are required to go through this public hearing process. So we open this first public hearing,

1239
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:34,300
the intent is really just to let the community know that we are considering applying for

1240
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:39,420
CDBG funding and then to take public comments from members of the community on projects

1241
02:05:39,420 --> 02:05:45,020
they would like us to consider. We will come back likely in January with a second public

1242
02:05:45,020 --> 02:05:50,440
hearing letting the community know here's the things that we are going to pursue. So I do

1243
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:54,900
have, we have Jeff Lucas, who's our consultant online and Jeff, do you want to provide a little

1244
02:05:54,900 --> 02:06:00,780
but more detail on this current proposal request.

1245
02:06:03,070 --> 02:06:04,010
Can you hear us, Jeff?

1246
02:06:04,270 --> 02:06:05,510
Hi, thank you for,

1247
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:10,020
we're breaking up just a little bit,

1248
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:11,720
but I want to thank you for the opportunity

1249
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:14,780
to speak to the Community Development Block Grant Program

1250
02:06:14,780 --> 02:06:19,260
and kind of kick off this public discussion

1251
02:06:19,260 --> 02:06:22,760
regarding the program, which is initiated

1252
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:27,960
because the state noticed all this jurisdiction,

1253
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:37,360
jurisdiction, small rural jurisdictions that their annual notice of funding availability was going to be released.

1254
02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:50,620
And as part of that process, we want to make sure that we provide information about the community development block grant program, which is a federal program managed by the state of California for small jurisdictions.

1255
02:06:51,620 --> 02:07:03,140
but these funds are available and background information on what they can and can't ease for the board to consider that staffs also looking at a variety of things that fit the program.

1256
02:07:03,340 --> 02:07:04,920
So this is informational.

1257
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:13,260
I know some of the board members have background information and an understanding of CDPG and that's that's very, very good.

1258
02:07:13,460 --> 02:07:15,120
There's probably some that don't.

1259
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:24,780
The program is flexible in what it can do and so our role today is just to provide you

1260
02:07:24,780 --> 02:07:29,620
with information, answer any questions you may have and welcome any comments regarding

1261
02:07:29,620 --> 02:07:30,340
the program.

1262
02:07:31,820 --> 02:07:43,440
It's designed specifically the primary purpose of the funds are to expand economic opportunities

1263
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:51,480
for low and moderate income folks, and I want to give you an idea of sort of the target

1264
02:07:51,480 --> 02:08:01,100
group for this program, for a family of four in your county, the extremely low range

1265
02:08:01,100 --> 02:08:10,620
would be income for a family of $30,650. Well, the moderate level would be $81,700. So

1266
02:08:10,620 --> 02:08:14,880
So that's quite a range of folks that the program is designed to help.

1267
02:08:15,180 --> 02:08:23,460
The idea is to help raise up their income level through programs, for example, low interest

1268
02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:29,860
business loan programs that would in turn help hire and create more jobs for folks.

1269
02:08:30,820 --> 02:08:37,080
Also improve suitable living environment, and that can come in the way of nuisance abatement

1270
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:37,760
programs.

1271
02:08:40,180 --> 02:08:46,280
As an example, also providing decent housing, this could be the first time home

1272
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:52,340
buyers program, which the county has experience with and has accumulated funds from that program,

1273
02:08:53,430 --> 02:09:04,560
or housing rehab programs for situations where folks need to upgrade and improve their living

1274
02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:12,020
arrangements. In addition to the low and moderate income folks that the programs

1275
02:09:12,020 --> 02:09:20,820
started to assist seniors, veterans, disabled folks are also part of the folks

1276
02:09:20,820 --> 02:09:34,540
that are targeted to receive assistance and to benefit from the program. So as I

1277
02:09:34,540 --> 02:09:40,800
is a non entitlement jurisdiction, meaning that the state has set up a program so that

1278
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:47,440
rural jurisdictions can apply for these funds on an annual basis.

1279
02:09:47,700 --> 02:09:50,560
Now that schedule moves around quite a bit by the state.

1280
02:09:51,180 --> 02:09:56,880
In fact, application was originally going to be scheduled to be due in January.

1281
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,900
Now they've just recently as a guest today moved that to April.

1282
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,880
So, which is fine, it gives us more time to focus on what we want to do with the application for these funds and what kind of programs or projects will best benefit the county. So, this slide number four, regarding the national objectives, provides you with additional information on the national objective. And then number two is CDBG eligible activity.

1283
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:49,320
So in order to get at the national objective of assisting folks with with job creation or improving their housing or projects like improving a water system, a sewer system that serves a low moderate income neighborhood.

1284
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:54,820
Those are the kinds of things that we can do with these funds.

1285
02:10:56,700 --> 02:11:03,340
So, we have to bear in mind what we're trying to do, the benefit, and then the eligible activities

1286
02:11:03,340 --> 02:11:04,440
which are listed here.

1287
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:12,040
And I don't know if you, for example, under community development, public facilities,

1288
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:22,820
improvements, that would be systems that improve water systems or that kind of thing, ADA improvements

1289
02:11:22,820 --> 02:11:33,880
for a public building, in some cases some of the older buildings being used need those barriers removed and you can use the funds for that.

1290
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:42,200
Let's see, you can use the funds also for loss of rental income for folks.

1291
02:11:42,780 --> 02:11:51,460
I'm not sure if these CDBG funds will be made available to assist or if there is going to be a need.

1292
02:11:51,460 --> 02:12:00,080
We probably have to follow up on that since your most recent fire, but if possible, I think that would be something to consider.

1293
02:12:00,900 --> 02:12:10,620
And maybe as part of this conversation, we can reach out to state staff on that matter.

1294
02:12:12,460 --> 02:12:24,880
We're based in Lake County, we've seen many, many fires and we know the impact of them and I'm sorry to see what occurred, but if it might be possible to utilize these funds for assisting folks.

1295
02:12:25,660 --> 02:12:34,720
The problem is that it takes over a year from the point of application to actually being able to implement these programs, so bear that in mind as well.

1296
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:41,660
Well, you can provide funds for homeowner ownership assistance, which we discussed, housing

1297
02:12:41,660 --> 02:12:46,060
services, and those kinds of things.

1298
02:12:47,820 --> 02:12:53,760
On economic development, small businesses can receive technical assistance at no fee

1299
02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:55,060
to help them expand.

1300
02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:02,640
You can also use the funds, as I mentioned earlier, low interest business loans, forgivable loans.

1301
02:13:02,640 --> 02:13:10,320
We did quite a bit of that with with with your county during the CD period with these funds. I think they're that was pretty helpful.

1302
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:23,640
So those are some of the things we can do with the funds and the target audience that we're trying to address and I think if we can go to the next slide.

1303
02:13:28,450 --> 02:13:35,250
Right now that the county has a program income that's been accumulated from the first time home buyers program.

1304
02:13:35,250 --> 02:13:45,590
and I think you can include those funds with the new funds that are being made available to compete for and apply for.

1305
02:13:46,030 --> 02:13:55,810
Or you can separately apply for those funds to use for a different eligible program.

1306
02:13:56,250 --> 02:14:00,550
It's a little bit confusing because it's really funds that you've already applied for.

1307
02:14:00,550 --> 02:14:07,750
they're yours, they're in your accounts, but the state has recently, well about two years ago,

1308
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:12,410
made a change in how they approached that in the past. You can develop a plan and say,

1309
02:14:12,490 --> 02:14:17,510
this is what we're going to use the funds for. Now you have to actually apply to use the funds

1310
02:14:18,810 --> 02:14:24,150
that you've already received from them. So you have to go through this whole application process,

1311
02:14:24,150 --> 02:14:29,850
which is cumbersome, not very efficient, but that's how they're doing it now.

1312
02:14:31,050 --> 02:14:32,930
So you have those funds on hand,

1313
02:14:33,890 --> 02:14:38,890
and then also with this new notice of funding availability for 2025,

1314
02:14:40,730 --> 02:14:45,230
originally when we sent you this slide was applications opening in January.

1315
02:14:45,230 --> 02:14:48,210
Well, they've moved that a little bit,

1316
02:14:48,210 --> 02:14:59,970
So the applications won't be scheduled to we won't be able to submit an application until April now, which which actually is good. It gives us more time.

1317
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,980
And then finally, the state has allocated out how the total of $3.6 million which is available for its jurisdiction to apply for what kinds of things and programs and projects you can apply for the total. So, for example, infrastructure, a public facility, if you've got your engineering design work and budget work and other funding sources of

1318
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:36,380
available and ready to go, you can apply for up to 3.3 million for infrastructure improvement

1319
02:15:36,380 --> 02:15:42,700
project that would benefit a low mod, a household in a neighborhood, for example.

1320
02:15:43,560 --> 02:15:48,240
You can apply for up to 1.5 million for a housing program, like the first time home

1321
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:52,420
buyers program, or up to 1.5 million for economic development.

1322
02:15:52,420 --> 02:15:59,800
Unfortunately, they're not allowing us to do both, and so it's an either or kind of

1323
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:02,780
decision that the board would need to make.

1324
02:16:04,080 --> 02:16:11,220
Public services, which includes things like lunches, a senior services, those kinds of

1325
02:16:11,220 --> 02:16:11,560
things.

1326
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:17,680
You can apply for up to $300,000, and then what they call planning and technical assistance,

1327
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:21,720
which is, let's see, for example,

1328
02:16:21,900 --> 02:16:24,780
a planning and technical assistance grant application would be

1329
02:16:24,780 --> 02:16:28,740
to determine, do the preliminary engineering and design work

1330
02:16:28,740 --> 02:16:33,700
and figure out what the budget would be for the remodeling

1331
02:16:33,700 --> 02:16:37,560
and rehabilitation of an older public building

1332
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:42,720
that could also house services for veterans and seniors

1333
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:46,840
that kind of thing for a community center type operation.

1334
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:53,840
So, that money can be used to determine what the cost will be for the improvements that

1335
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:58,900
will be necessary, determine what they are, and then the next cycle, the next year, you

1336
02:16:58,900 --> 02:17:06,820
can use that information and apply for a specific amount of funds from CDBG to actually make

1337
02:17:06,820 --> 02:17:07,580
those improvements.

1338
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:13,820
So, those are the sort of fundamentals of the CDBG program.

1339
02:17:14,860 --> 02:17:26,940
We just wanted to make sure that we went over them with the board as well as through this process any folks in the community and the public that are participating.

1340
02:17:27,880 --> 02:17:30,420
And of course answer any questions that you may have.

1341
02:17:39,870 --> 02:17:44,070
For that presentation, anyone on the board have any questions on the presentation?

1342
02:17:53,870 --> 02:18:03,030
I think we're all familiar with what the program is, but it's what I'm mostly interested

1343
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:10,330
in is what are the projects and what capacity do we have to engage in the program.

1344
02:18:13,410 --> 02:18:18,050
We have anything like that now, or when would we see that?

1345
02:18:18,050 --> 02:18:24,030
I mean, like infrastructure, we just got approved 900,000 for generator from

1346
02:18:29,150 --> 02:18:30,570
something that

1347
02:18:30,570 --> 02:18:37,930
we could couple some of these dollars with those dollars to do microgrid or generator

1348
02:18:37,930 --> 02:18:42,870
somewhere, or like, how do we see it laid out, where are we going with this?

1349
02:18:43,510 --> 02:18:48,450
So I think that this is the opportunity just to talk about ideas of how we could do it.

1350
02:18:48,530 --> 02:18:52,370
So that's a good idea that we can kind of look at and see if it fits in the program and

1351
02:18:52,370 --> 02:18:55,050
And then how would we couple it with our other infrastructure projects?

1352
02:18:55,310 --> 02:19:00,130
I think Jeff also mentioned the Community Center upgrades, which is something we could,

1353
02:19:00,230 --> 02:19:03,670
the planning for a Community Center upgrades, which is something we could consider.

1354
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:11,190
And some of the, we have talked about this with a housing ad hoc, and I know there will be a report later on.

1355
02:19:11,230 --> 02:19:17,250
But one of the things that we've talked about internally, because CDBG is often used for housing is,

1356
02:19:17,250 --> 02:19:19,630
is we talked with economic development

1357
02:19:19,630 --> 02:19:22,650
about possibly using this for the business loan program,

1358
02:19:23,050 --> 02:19:25,070
which is something that we've done previously,

1359
02:19:25,470 --> 02:19:26,990
and has been really successful.

1360
02:19:27,870 --> 02:19:29,790
And I think they are forgivable loans,

1361
02:19:29,970 --> 02:19:32,190
which is great, the businesses really like

1362
02:19:32,190 --> 02:19:33,650
to have those forgivable loans.

1363
02:19:33,770 --> 02:19:36,550
And we worked with Jeff and his team at CDS

1364
02:19:36,550 --> 02:19:37,430
to implement that.

1365
02:19:37,550 --> 02:19:38,990
So if we think about capacity,

1366
02:19:39,810 --> 02:19:42,570
we do have a consultant that we've worked with

1367
02:19:42,570 --> 02:19:44,430
that can help us deploy the program.

1368
02:19:44,430 --> 02:19:49,270
And I think that, you know, we have the staff to manage something like that.

1369
02:19:49,530 --> 02:19:53,290
If we're looking for something, you know, beyond that or something different,

1370
02:19:53,450 --> 02:19:57,530
I think we would want to come back to the board and let you know about capacity.

1371
02:19:57,790 --> 02:19:59,970
So if you wanted us to start a whole new process.

1372
02:20:05,640 --> 02:20:29,580
And then we can come back to you and let you know how we could deploy it, and how we could partner with, you know, other projects or programs that we're already doing or other departments are working on. I mean, I think there's already things identified in the CIP. I mean, like we were talking about yesterday, like preschool and Bridgeport, they need $150,000.

1373
02:20:36,580 --> 02:20:43,520
I mean, there's so many things, but I think we need staff, public works, economic development,

1374
02:20:43,700 --> 02:20:52,620
to reign in a realistic number of these things, 10 to 20, or whatever, and then we can discuss

1375
02:20:52,620 --> 02:20:58,140
them in rank, so to speak, prioritize them, but I think we could sit here all day and talk

1376
02:20:58,140 --> 02:21:07,160
about things that we wish we could have, but the purpose of the CIP is to lay that out

1377
02:21:07,980 --> 02:21:15,480
for years, and know there's things programmed and funds already allocated for certain projects,

1378
02:21:15,700 --> 02:21:19,000
but Liz has a great report now that I can all develop.

1379
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:25,560
Project report from Carl, I mean,

1380
02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:32,260
is we identifying something out of that that he specifically recommended, you know, enhancing

1381
02:21:32,260 --> 02:21:38,700
the ability, access to voting type thing, or that's what I feel like the next step could

1382
02:21:38,700 --> 02:21:46,500
be for us to be able to then, you know, give you something to determine it, where is the

1383
02:21:46,500 --> 02:21:53,580
capacity, even go forward with this because it's short-term, it's short-term, like it wasn't

1384
02:21:53,580 --> 02:22:00,320
me January now it's April but that's still pretty short. The funds though like Jeff mentioned

1385
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:08,380
take a year or so to come out so yeah. That's fast to me in government here but so I don't know

1386
02:22:08,380 --> 02:22:10,400
how the next step goes.

1387
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:16,780
I think that then another guiding document is the strategic plan and

1388
02:22:16,780 --> 02:22:22,220
you know coupled with you know also looking at the capital improvement but the strategic plan really

1389
02:22:22,220 --> 02:22:29,120
It does call out the major areas of most interest that we came up with at our last strategic

1390
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:29,940
planning session.

1391
02:22:30,500 --> 02:22:34,660
A month ago, that I think is kind of a gutting document, but I think it's so vice

1392
02:22:34,660 --> 02:22:39,020
of Peter said, we need a framework to operate within, and I think that the framework to operate

1393
02:22:39,020 --> 02:22:40,580
this in going to staff.

1394
02:22:40,940 --> 02:22:41,100
Yes.

1395
02:22:41,360 --> 02:22:46,460
It staff brings kind of the way in which we're going to consider this comes from staff, because

1396
02:22:46,460 --> 02:22:50,340
we could sit here all day like you said, and there's bounce ideas around it.

1397
02:22:50,340 --> 02:22:53,500
I'm going to hear from some other supervisors from Ireland.

1398
02:22:55,000 --> 02:23:00,500
I think there's, yes, thanks for that, I mean, we know we have large lists of things

1399
02:23:00,500 --> 02:23:03,920
that we could just start picking off, but the question is, you know, who's going to administer

1400
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:07,520
them, who's going to do them, how are we going to ensure that money is effectively utilized.

1401
02:23:08,160 --> 02:23:15,800
And Jeff, a question for you, CBG is targeted towards, when you do something on the community

1402
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:20,140
scale, like a community center, it has to be a designated low to moderate

1403
02:23:20,140 --> 02:23:34,740
income community? Yes. Yes, or it can be that if it's a community facility services provided to

1404
02:23:34,740 --> 02:23:46,960
seniors, services provided to veterans, that also meets the criteria for the benefit, those folks,

1405
02:23:46,960 --> 02:23:49,240
it's to be competitive.

1406
02:23:49,480 --> 02:23:52,240
And remember now these funds are pretty competitive.

1407
02:23:52,460 --> 02:23:54,440
So we always think in terms of high,

1408
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:56,620
and you guys are considering that right now

1409
02:23:56,620 --> 02:23:57,740
and your capacity and so on.

1410
02:23:57,820 --> 02:24:00,880
But it's like, okay, if we're going to put all this work

1411
02:24:00,880 --> 02:24:03,820
into the darn thing or what is our highest best chance

1412
02:24:03,820 --> 02:24:04,780
to get and fund it.

1413
02:24:05,360 --> 02:24:10,220
And so in a case like that, you would want the facility

1414
02:24:10,220 --> 02:24:16,040
to be in a low moderate income census track area

1415
02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:21,760
or community that you define and then you look that up and then also you're going to provide

1416
02:24:21,760 --> 02:24:31,600
services to what they call the limited clientele being seniors and veterans disabled so that you're

1417
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:41,880
hitting all the points that you possibly can. And finally on that as an entity you want to think

1418
02:24:41,880 --> 02:24:45,440
in terms of being competitive, relative to readiness and capacity.

1419
02:24:46,220 --> 02:24:50,640
In other words, you're ready to move forward with the project within their time frame, because

1420
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,620
that's how the state always thinks not in our time frames.

1421
02:24:53,680 --> 02:24:55,540
What's realistic to us, but for them.

1422
02:24:56,340 --> 02:24:59,800
So, you're thinking in terms of can we get this darn thing done?

1423
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:27,600
And implemented within what they think in terms of a two-and-a-half year time frame, which is the length of the grant agreement between the state and the county. You just kind of think how they think a little bit. And so that means are you ready to go the minute they, you know, you've signed the agreement, not course on there and they take forever to get their work done, but they expect us to move forward and hustle real fast. So those are some of the things you kind of want to think about.

1424
02:25:28,500 --> 02:25:44,980
And then also you're talking a little bit about, you know, your capacity and you don't want to get ahead of yourself, but wherever we can show capacity in house as well as through through a consulting group doesn't have to be us to be anybody.

1425
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:54,820
You want to demonstrate that they're on board, or that they're ready to implement as well for

1426
02:25:55,440 --> 02:26:00,440
whether it's an infrastructure project, a housing project, or an economic development type project.

1427
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:02,080
I know that was a lot.

1428
02:26:02,220 --> 02:26:03,700
Thank you for allowing me to.

1429
02:26:04,220 --> 02:26:04,640
Okay.

1430
02:26:05,060 --> 02:26:05,640
Thank you.

1431
02:26:05,880 --> 02:26:06,340
Say all that.

1432
02:26:07,900 --> 02:26:08,480
Thank

1433
02:26:12,190 --> 02:26:12,970
you, Jeff.

1434
02:26:13,170 --> 02:26:14,510
I have a clarifying question.

1435
02:26:14,510 --> 02:26:19,410
and you had made a mention of, and I just

1436
02:26:19,410 --> 02:26:21,110
think clarity on what you meant by this,

1437
02:26:21,490 --> 02:26:24,110
is that you're choosing a particular lane

1438
02:26:24,110 --> 02:26:30,890
that you can't switch back as far as an area.

1439
02:26:31,070 --> 02:26:32,770
Could you clarify a little bit more

1440
02:26:32,770 --> 02:26:34,010
what you were talking about there?

1441
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:41,470
Yeah, and I don't know why the state does things sometimes,

1442
02:26:41,470 --> 02:26:56,290
But, or actually most of the time I guess, but the, in this case, what they've said is you can apply for funds up to 1.5 million for an economic development type activity.

1443
02:26:56,770 --> 02:27:06,690
That could be helping micro enterprises, for example, doing these low interest forgivable loans that create jobs, for example.

1444
02:27:07,930 --> 02:27:12,630
You can do that, or you can do a housing program.

1445
02:27:13,570 --> 02:27:15,950
You can't do both, unfortunately.

1446
02:27:16,290 --> 02:27:18,750
So that's the either or deal there.

1447
02:27:19,230 --> 02:27:23,210
Okay, so to clarify that, should we decide to go,

1448
02:27:23,710 --> 02:27:26,910
we can't say put this much to a housing,

1449
02:27:27,530 --> 02:27:30,310
this much to infrastructure support,

1450
02:27:30,630 --> 02:27:34,910
because our ass board, it's either all or nothing.

1451
02:27:36,330 --> 02:27:41,310
on the housing, yes, or economic developments, one or the other.

1452
02:27:42,010 --> 02:27:47,350
Now, and this is why you've got pretty good staff because they're thinking, well, okay,

1453
02:27:47,450 --> 02:27:48,390
that's the case with this.

1454
02:27:48,710 --> 02:27:50,490
This is their rules at the state level.

1455
02:27:50,650 --> 02:27:55,190
Then we have this program income money that we've accrued that we've gained.

1456
02:27:55,490 --> 02:27:57,690
We've payments have come back in.

1457
02:27:58,050 --> 02:28:04,790
We're going to apply separately for that to keep that, you know, kind of get the housing program going again.

1458
02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:19,510
because it worked pretty well, and we're going to keep that separate because of under the rules we can do that, rather than bundling it in to this notice of funding availability, which then restricts its use if I make in sense.

1459
02:28:22,510 --> 02:28:22,950
Thank you.

1460
02:28:24,410 --> 02:28:29,210
Okay, let's, uh, all the comments and stuff are done with the board of the state public comment.

1461
02:28:35,220 --> 02:28:36,520
There are no yets raised on Zoom.

1462
02:28:36,520 --> 02:28:43,260
No, wait, there's somebody in Bridgeport.

1463
02:28:45,250 --> 02:28:46,550
All right,

1464
02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:48,980
go ahead.

1465
02:28:49,860 --> 02:28:50,220
Good morning.

1466
02:28:50,440 --> 02:28:53,520
Good morning, Honorable Chair, board, members of the public.

1467
02:28:53,720 --> 02:29:01,040
Molly, day by day here with first five today, asking you to consider a leveraging community

1468
02:29:01,040 --> 02:29:03,660
development block grant funds for child care.

1469
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:09,200
Thank you, supervisor Peters, for bringing up the successful use of it for eight years

1470
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:17,540
in Bridgeport at a cost of about $100,000 a year. I think that cost price point has changed,

1471
02:29:18,920 --> 02:29:25,500
but something that would still be feasible use of the funds. Bridgeport would still be,

1472
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:33,500
in my opinion, the highest priority for a child care operation. I believe there has been some

1473
02:29:33,500 --> 02:29:40,220
consideration of a different model than was employed in the past perhaps purchasing a home

1474
02:29:40,220 --> 02:29:48,740
to provide childcare from. As I said, I would also recommend in Bridgeport as well. It is an

1475
02:29:48,740 --> 02:29:57,060
allowable activity under the public service category. Another consideration would be to use the planning

1476
02:29:57,060 --> 02:29:59,560
category to plan.

1477
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:15,540
For a childcare facility, there have been thoughts of doing that in the past in COVID, which for infants and toddlers would be the highest priority in the county outside of the incorporated area.

1478
02:30:17,900 --> 02:30:28,740
First vibes willing to partner has some staff time and expertise in leveraging CDBG funds and has not get invested in this application.

1479
02:30:28,740 --> 02:30:33,000
and pending direction from the board and staff.

1480
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:34,280
Thank you.

1481
02:30:34,720 --> 02:30:37,940
Thank you, and I would concur with that.

1482
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:42,120
Obviously, sitting on the first five mission board

1483
02:30:42,120 --> 02:30:44,060
and on us on the childcare council,

1484
02:30:44,300 --> 02:30:47,560
there's obviously that gap in the North County.

1485
02:30:47,820 --> 02:30:51,400
And I think as Molly stated, being able to look at that

1486
02:30:51,400 --> 02:30:53,660
in a perhaps a slightly different model,

1487
02:30:54,080 --> 02:30:55,180
and we looked at in the past,

1488
02:30:55,180 --> 02:30:58,200
I think would be a good exercise.

1489
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:02,100
Thank you, Chair Salsira.

1490
02:31:02,620 --> 02:31:06,380
Everyone, but do you get back to this such a question

1491
02:31:06,780 --> 02:31:09,560
that the process of which we would use to go forward,

1492
02:31:09,800 --> 02:31:14,720
I think we would look to staff to bring forward some marine ideas

1493
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:16,820
if you will based on the documents

1494
02:31:16,820 --> 02:31:18,060
and the work we've done in the past

1495
02:31:18,680 --> 02:31:21,940
and then bring back to the board if that would be agreeable?

1496
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:24,460
Yes, that's the plan.

1497
02:31:24,460 --> 02:31:29,920
Yes, so this is an opportunity for anything that you know like the members of the public might have and then we take all of that

1498
02:31:29,920 --> 02:31:36,700
Information and then work with a consultant like Jeff mentioned looking at competitiveness and putting together a package that we think is

1499
02:31:36,700 --> 02:31:40,460
Competitive meets the needs meets the needs of the community that we've heard

1500
02:31:40,460 --> 02:31:47,240
And go from there. So that's the next step. We would be back with that. I think to like the young listeners your ad hoc

1501
02:31:47,240 --> 02:31:54,440
communities that are meeting and talking to ideas to generate out a bit too, because we would

1502
02:31:54,440 --> 02:32:00,420
like to make the application by when given the January open. Pushed it out to April.

1503
02:32:01,380 --> 02:32:07,400
So we would likely come back in January. We'll coordinate internally. They just push the date out.

1504
02:32:07,580 --> 02:32:17,220
So we might come back in February. It just kind of depends, because I think the April is a

1505
02:32:17,220 --> 02:32:18,800
Or the consult on that, yeah.

1506
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:24,000
And certainly given our amendment to housing looking

1507
02:32:24,740 --> 02:32:28,240
actively in that arena too, yes.

1508
02:32:29,340 --> 02:32:29,580
Okay.

1509
02:32:30,340 --> 02:32:30,700
Anybody?

1510
02:32:31,060 --> 02:32:31,080
Yeah.

1511
02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:34,020
It would be good too when you bring back the list

1512
02:32:34,020 --> 02:32:39,280
to have the acknowledgment or the endorsement

1513
02:32:39,280 --> 02:32:42,740
from like its economic development or public works,

1514
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:46,260
facilities, what was really successful

1515
02:32:46,260 --> 02:32:55,460
doing up one program a while back, Joe Blanchard was facilities, and we're putting ADA into all

1516
02:32:55,460 --> 02:33:02,040
kinds of already existing park projects. I mean, something like the paramedics, two housing,

1517
02:33:02,160 --> 02:33:10,120
is that, you know, the freeze-up general fund dollars that, you know, always with the lens back to

1518
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:15,360
maybe that freeze-ups money that we can put into housing. That's how to be our top priority.

1519
02:33:19,810 --> 02:33:21,830
I had a quick question for John, actually.

1520
02:33:22,390 --> 02:33:23,110
Supervisor Peters.

1521
02:33:25,570 --> 02:33:27,950
The child care you mentioned in Bridgeport,

1522
02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:29,330
that was actually the preschool

1523
02:33:29,330 --> 02:33:30,470
that was done in partnership

1524
02:33:30,470 --> 02:33:31,910
with Eastern Sierra Unified, yes.

1525
02:33:32,430 --> 02:33:32,510
Yeah.

1526
02:33:32,910 --> 02:33:34,270
Okay, so that was a preschool program.

1527
02:33:34,590 --> 02:33:35,230
Re-school program.

1528
02:33:35,370 --> 02:33:37,510
I just met with the superintendent yesterday.

1529
02:33:37,970 --> 02:33:38,250
Thank you.

1530
02:33:38,450 --> 02:33:41,350
Brought this up and said, are you on board?

1531
02:33:41,970 --> 02:33:44,030
And they absolutely are.

1532
02:33:44,030 --> 02:33:53,750
are their former teacher is now a certificate to be a teacher because they have a program

1533
02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:58,190
at the school district to grow from within, but they would fly the position, work with

1534
02:33:58,190 --> 02:34:05,470
the office of ed, they have the facility, but it's the numbers now, Molly, like 150,000 because

1535
02:34:05,470 --> 02:34:11,290
of the cost for the teacher and whatever the upgrades to the facility, but it's absolutely

1536
02:34:11,290 --> 02:34:14,950
a preschool program. It's absolutely a need and

1537
02:34:14,950 --> 02:34:20,540
rich support and so they would be engaged to do that.

1538
02:34:20,900 --> 02:34:26,880
Yeah, you know if Eastern Syria Unified would entertain any interest in doing that at their other school sites?

1539
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:34,880
I'm guessing with the county office of Ed's support because they took over the IMACA.

1540
02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:42,260
Yeah, it's a preschool program. So I mean I would hope I wouldn't have that discussion with.

1541
02:34:42,260 --> 02:34:47,340
Okay, thank you, although we are committed to some other things over the school district.

1542
02:34:47,820 --> 02:34:52,660
Yeah, regards to some other stuff, but thank you.

1543
02:34:52,860 --> 02:34:59,460
All right, that being said, I think we can close the public hearing and talk about.

1544
02:34:59,460 --> 02:34:59,820
So

1545
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:13,740
Direction, then, to staff. I think, have we given adequate direction, do you believe? Yes, thank you so much, yes. Okay, so we have what we need this. Okay, let's move on to the next item. We are

1546
02:35:16,750 --> 02:35:32,450
on item of the regular agenda C, which is the 2026, delegate an alternate designations for rural county representatives of California, RCRC, the Golden State Finance Authority, GSFA, Golden State of

1547
02:35:32,450 --> 02:35:43,810
Golden State Connect Authority, GSEA, and Real County's Environmental Services Joint Powers Authority, ESJPA, and I'm 20, I think you want me to say a couple of words with this.

1548
02:35:44,190 --> 02:36:02,430
Sure, yeah. The description on the agenda is fairly straightforward. We're just seeking board action to appoint a supervisor as the 2025 RCRC, GSEA, GSEA, and ESJPA delegate, as well as a first alternate and second alternate.

1549
02:36:02,430 --> 02:36:09,690
And a stated in the agenda currently, Supervisor Dugin is serving as the delegate and Supervisor

1550
02:36:09,690 --> 02:36:16,270
Salcedo is the first alternate and Chief Senior Engineer and Public Works is the second alternate.

1551
02:36:17,490 --> 02:36:21,470
Right, um, Supervisor Dugin, would you feel about this?

1552
02:36:27,690 --> 02:36:32,450
Excuse me, it's been my pleasure to serve in the last couple of years, however I don't want to

1553
02:36:32,450 --> 02:36:36,070
and deny anyone an opportunity to come in.

1554
02:36:36,210 --> 02:36:45,010
And so if anyone would like to do this, you know, please express along with it it's a high level of engagement.

1555
02:36:45,030 --> 02:37:00,030
But I also want to acknowledge that the work that the rural counties representing California does and especially through the Golden State.

1556
02:37:00,030 --> 02:37:08,590
An act and finance 30 have put dollars into the community to do projects.

1557
02:37:09,290 --> 02:37:14,290
And the only one I see that we directly get money from, so it's very important.

1558
02:37:14,730 --> 02:37:21,310
And especially the area with expanding our ability to go through middle mile and

1559
02:37:21,310 --> 02:37:24,410
last mile broadband, they brought those projects to us.

1560
02:37:24,550 --> 02:37:27,350
There is no way that we would be able to move forward.

1561
02:37:27,350 --> 02:37:32,990
They're also very supportive with the CPUC, with a lot of the issues that we are working

1562
02:37:32,990 --> 02:37:36,630
with, with electrical issues going forward.

1563
02:37:36,950 --> 02:37:45,150
And we seem to be quite involved still with the ESJPA, the Environmental Services Joint

1564
02:37:45,150 --> 02:37:46,410
Powers Authority.

1565
02:37:47,230 --> 02:37:55,510
And that is where a lot of programs that help support our transition with the closure of

1566
02:37:55,510 --> 02:38:04,170
been crossing landfill and supporting other programs that help us make a lot of progress

1567
02:38:04,170 --> 02:38:10,130
on rehabilitating our landfill but other programs that we do to address an issue that's kind

1568
02:38:10,130 --> 02:38:14,650
of unique everything has to go outside the county. And that's not what we started with,

1569
02:38:14,650 --> 02:38:19,950
what we'd like to do, but there are ways for us to get an exemption. So I'm happy to continue

1570
02:38:19,950 --> 02:38:27,650
to serve, but that's at the pleasure of the board. I believe that Kat senior is still

1571
02:38:28,630 --> 02:38:37,810
very interested in representing as an alternate along with the May delegate through ESJPA.

1572
02:38:38,470 --> 02:38:47,670
He is on the meetings. I share the very thick packet with him. He's very silent but involved.

1573
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:55,970
So, his presence is always felt and we're trying to encourage, I'll return to make a presentation

1574
02:38:55,970 --> 02:39:03,830
in December, hopefully of how to transition a landfill, you know, in a closer because

1575
02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:09,290
he, I recall that he brought that presentation to us and was quite excited about how, this

1576
02:39:09,290 --> 02:39:10,930
is what we learned how you do it there.

1577
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:17,290
So, and then those that would like to serve as an alternate, not only are we,

1578
02:39:17,290 --> 02:39:40,010
the RCRC is very focused on economic development, wildfire resiliency, but we are moving into the areas through the rural advancement institute of looking at alternatives for emergency management services program and also rural health.

1579
02:39:40,010 --> 02:39:58,690
We are very fortunate that some of the issues that other counties have not embraced us yet, but now we are at least my district, my neighbors, myself were in that small group that is growing of experiencing wildfire.

1580
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:05,520
This is another area of where directly they work, and encourage anybody that wants to learn

1581
02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:11,160
more about it to express interest, because I don't have to do this forever, but I'm happy

1582
02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:20,600
to continue. Will, I will say that as the assaulting it, that civil rights adouging carries

1583
02:40:20,600 --> 02:40:27,000
the heavy load on this. I listen occasionally into the meetings, I'm not very well, but I would

1584
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:34,700
be happy to step in and help at a more dedicated level with that, I mean, this representation

1585
02:40:35,320 --> 02:40:43,280
is a lot, and Supervisor Duke, and travels extensively because the RCRC, tirelessly.

1586
02:40:43,820 --> 02:40:50,620
So I would be happy to continue as the alternate issue with me.

1587
02:40:51,060 --> 02:40:53,460
That means once in a while, you get to go to set up.

1588
02:40:53,460 --> 02:40:53,880
Absolutely.

1589
02:40:54,340 --> 02:40:55,300
I would be happy to go.

1590
02:40:55,300 --> 02:41:04,070
I would say non-weather related, but apparently I get everyone.

1591
02:41:04,210 --> 02:41:08,030
You do, sorry, the story of the week is what you did.

1592
02:41:08,310 --> 02:41:13,550
Yeah, where was the weather get cut this week open and so okay, so then any other comments

1593
02:41:13,550 --> 02:41:15,030
on this?

1594
02:41:17,170 --> 02:41:18,850
Just thank you so much for doing it.

1595
02:41:19,050 --> 02:41:20,390
I know that you put a huge amount of time.

1596
02:41:20,730 --> 02:41:21,430
So that's appreciated.

1597
02:41:21,790 --> 02:41:22,950
I think we get something from it.

1598
02:41:23,330 --> 02:41:23,470
Yeah.

1599
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:31,950
Yeah, I would just like to say that what's really critical, there's some members that

1600
02:41:31,950 --> 02:41:39,490
are on RCRC from other counties more extreme sort of approach to it.

1601
02:41:39,890 --> 02:41:44,550
I think it's critical to have a balanced approach, which the Professor Dugan does, the

1602
02:41:46,510 --> 02:42:15,320
We really need that balanced approach, and I also wanted to say RCRC has a reach that is a little bit more appropriate for a small county like us where they go and participate for things that are rural or CSEC doesn't do that.

1603
02:42:15,320 --> 02:42:20,280
And fortunately now, CSAC and RCRCR are kind of

1604
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:23,960
homingling together, so there's some bleed over there.

1605
02:42:24,180 --> 02:42:30,280
But just like this week, RCRCRC will send a staff person

1606
02:42:30,280 --> 02:42:34,900
and a board member to this WGA in Arizona

1607
02:42:34,900 --> 02:42:38,300
to present on the Farm Bill, which is critical for us.

1608
02:42:38,580 --> 02:42:41,000
And it means food programs.

1609
02:42:41,020 --> 02:42:43,220
It's a lot of things rural.

1610
02:42:43,220 --> 02:42:50,220
and they participate more, you know, things like W.I.R. and other NACO things, so

1611
02:42:50,220 --> 02:42:57,140
that's really critical to have a person like Supervisor Dugan to continue doing

1612
02:42:57,140 --> 02:43:02,360
this or somebody who would be able to step into those large shoes in the future,

1613
02:43:02,360 --> 02:43:07,500
but I thank you for all that you do. And being there is a critical piece.

1614
02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:22,480
You got to go, you got to be there and have a voice at the table and I think you've got a great job representing Mono County, our regional interests and, you know, the state is as well at the national level, so thank you.

1615
02:43:24,590 --> 02:43:26,790
I think a motion to have you two keep going.

1616
02:43:27,450 --> 02:43:27,810
Second.

1617
02:43:28,290 --> 02:43:34,310
All right, we have a motion to the second, all right, all right, so there would be your

1618
02:43:35,350 --> 02:43:35,710
notification.

1619
02:43:36,290 --> 02:43:42,230
While we're on that topic, I was looking through some emails, there's a C-SAC in the

1620
02:43:42,230 --> 02:43:42,410
office.

1621
02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:46,610
You need to send that, even though it didn't change.

1622
02:43:47,010 --> 02:43:48,910
Yes, we've confirmed with, you have.

1623
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:49,530
We'll send it, okay.

1624
02:43:49,630 --> 02:43:50,310
We have let them know.

1625
02:43:50,570 --> 02:43:51,370
So we're all done with that.

1626
02:43:51,450 --> 02:43:52,610
We don't need to take any action.

1627
02:43:53,610 --> 02:43:53,830
Okay.

1628
02:43:53,930 --> 02:43:55,170
Because it's just robots automatically.

1629
02:43:55,710 --> 02:43:55,830
Okay.

1630
02:43:56,330 --> 02:43:56,510
All right.

1631
02:43:56,510 --> 02:43:57,730
Thank you. Thank you very much.

1632
02:43:58,190 --> 02:44:00,070
And thank you very much.

1633
02:44:00,830 --> 02:44:13,690
It is, yeah, I think it is interesting because it's been quite a year for RCRC and I've

1634
02:44:13,690 --> 02:44:21,530
always strived to represent and to be an effective advocate for us and anyone that we're

1635
02:44:21,530 --> 02:44:24,410
working together, and we do not always agree.

1636
02:44:24,670 --> 02:44:27,190
It's been quite contentious lately,

1637
02:44:27,570 --> 02:44:31,330
but know that I'm willing to present and work with anybody

1638
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:33,730
and get there.

1639
02:44:34,330 --> 02:44:36,530
And yeah, I have some great stories

1640
02:44:36,530 --> 02:44:37,970
that traveling in the middle of the night

1641
02:44:37,970 --> 02:44:41,370
on close freeways to get to an RCRC function.

1642
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:44,930
And I think it's a joke for them.

1643
02:44:45,470 --> 02:44:48,050
Right now, it's on the, yeah.

1644
02:44:48,430 --> 02:44:50,970
Because yeah, I think it was good luck with my story.

1645
02:44:50,970 --> 02:44:59,810
But the fact that advocacy that we are building and the relationships that no matter who it represented.

1646
02:45:02,150 --> 02:45:29,110
We have a place at the table, and we are the fourth smallest county, but we have a very loud voice. I inherited that position from a supervisor corolless, and I'm not about to let that go. So, we may be small mining, but we have every issue that anybody's had, we've had it too. So that helps us relate. And I appreciate the back up from.

1647
02:45:29,990 --> 02:45:39,070
Public Works from Chair Salcedo, and there's plenty of room to get involved in plenty of issues.

1648
02:45:39,570 --> 02:45:45,970
Let's get the broadband in here and move on to the biomass support.

1649
02:45:47,770 --> 02:45:52,130
Okay, so let's talk about the schedule here for a second what we're doing.

1650
02:45:52,770 --> 02:45:56,770
Right now we're going to go into the Housing Needs Assessment Update,

1651
02:45:56,770 --> 02:46:03,010
which was a skittles for 40 minutes, but I can see that being the conversation.

1652
02:46:03,490 --> 02:46:11,670
At some point we need to break into close session and lunch, and I think if we can get close to that

1653
02:46:12,970 --> 02:46:19,390
after this next item, I think we'll take a break after that.

1654
02:46:19,950 --> 02:46:24,550
Yeah, I think the consultant for the housing needs assessment is online and ready to present.

1655
02:46:26,270 --> 02:46:31,110
And we have representatives from the Incident Management team who are on their way here.

1656
02:46:31,230 --> 02:46:34,130
They're going to be here in person to present on the PAC fire.

1657
02:46:34,830 --> 02:46:37,950
So my recommendation would be to take that item first after a lunch.

1658
02:46:38,430 --> 02:46:40,990
And then we can kind of catch up with all the other items.

1659
02:46:41,210 --> 02:46:43,490
But I would, yeah, housing needs assessment now.

1660
02:46:43,490 --> 02:46:45,330
And then maybe break for a lunch and closed session.

1661
02:46:45,330 --> 02:46:50,550
And then PAC fire update and the other emergency declaration that we need to come back.

1662
02:46:50,550 --> 02:46:52,130
I'm going to figure out what else we need.

1663
02:46:52,610 --> 02:46:58,530
And we'll roll in the up-cris update within the emergency preparedness.

1664
02:46:59,030 --> 02:47:00,750
I think there are two separate items.

1665
02:47:01,030 --> 02:47:03,230
We'll do it in the same zone.

1666
02:47:03,610 --> 02:47:03,710
Yes.

1667
02:47:04,350 --> 02:47:04,470
Okay.

1668
02:47:05,230 --> 02:47:08,510
Let's move on then to the housing needs assessment update.

1669
02:47:09,110 --> 02:47:10,710
And I think Aaron is here.

1670
02:47:11,010 --> 02:47:13,650
Good afternoon or good late morning Aaron.

1671
02:47:14,010 --> 02:47:14,650
Thanks for being here.

1672
02:47:15,890 --> 02:47:19,570
I'll just briefly introduce the item before Aaron starts Aaron.

1673
02:47:19,570 --> 02:47:23,450
And I think you're all familiar and have received presentations from Erin in the past.

1674
02:47:24,010 --> 02:47:29,070
BAE has worked closely with Mono County over a couple of different years on a couple of different projects.

1675
02:47:30,010 --> 02:47:36,250
And this is basically the culmination of maybe we're calling it like phase one of the housing needs study.

1676
02:47:37,070 --> 02:47:44,830
And this is the first time that we've come together as a region, our four agencies I think since 2005.

1677
02:47:44,830 --> 02:47:50,770
So this is a really great opportunity to come together to talk about what makes us similar,

1678
02:47:51,070 --> 02:47:54,570
but then also be able to break out what makes us different because obviously the next

1679
02:47:54,570 --> 02:48:00,930
step is how we deploy, how we implement housing solutions and it's not going to be one size

1680
02:48:00,930 --> 02:48:01,370
fits all.

1681
02:48:01,450 --> 02:48:06,110
We're all going to have different solutions, but Aaron's been great to work with, has a lot

1682
02:48:06,110 --> 02:48:10,610
of good information and I think I'll just, with that, I'll hand it over to Aaron to go

1683
02:48:10,610 --> 02:48:11,850
ahead and do your presentation.

1684
02:48:12,010 --> 02:48:12,410
Thank you, Aaron.

1685
02:48:13,490 --> 02:48:13,850
Wonderful.

1686
02:48:13,850 --> 02:48:26,150
Well thank you for having me again. My name is Aaron Nusain. I'm a principal with BAE urban economics. I've had the privilege of working with Mono County before most recently on your short term rental study in 2024.

1687
02:48:27,090 --> 02:48:34,730
And I was very pleased to be invited to work with the collective housing committee on the housing needs study for the eastern Sierra.

1688
02:48:36,250 --> 02:48:41,610
So the work that we're doing is being done on behalf of a coalition that includes both

1689
02:48:41,610 --> 02:48:47,130
Inno and Motocownies, the Town of Man with Lake, City of Bishop, and the Eastern Sierra Council of Governments.

1690
02:48:47,510 --> 02:48:54,830
We're also receiving some support from another consulting firm called SMR Development, which I'm sure you're familiar with due to their work for Motocownies.

1691
02:48:56,510 --> 02:49:04,850
And the really the purpose of this presentation is to summarize the work done to date where wrapping up the initial phase of the research.

1692
02:49:05,210 --> 02:49:18,430
Before we transition into the action planning process, we wanted to report out on some of our key findings, collect a little bit of input and then prepare everyone for what's coming next moving into 2026.

1693
02:49:18,430 --> 02:49:22,710
So the purpose of this presentation will cover our generalized approach,

1694
02:49:22,910 --> 02:49:25,350
we'll summarize some key findings and then we'll talk about the next steps.

1695
02:49:28,840 --> 02:49:31,700
So this work was scoped as a two-phase process.

1696
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:36,440
So the first phase, as Sonder mentioned, is a regional needs assessment,

1697
02:49:36,680 --> 02:49:40,580
where we collect the available data from a broad assortment of data sources.

1698
02:49:41,280 --> 02:49:43,840
We evaluate that information.

1699
02:49:44,040 --> 02:49:49,300
We combine it with primary data that we collected through two different survey efforts

1700
02:49:49,300 --> 02:49:54,460
and we'll go over that in a little bit more detail later on, and then we coalesce that information

1701
02:49:54,460 --> 02:49:59,760
into a quantitative model of regional housing needs that really expresses

1702
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:29,680
This is the order of magnitude of unmet housing needs within the region. And then we've gone through a process of three different workshop series where we've presented out on information collected input from the community. And that's where we are today is the third of the series of three. And this is to, again, report that on key findings before moving into phase two of the process, which will be moving through in 2026, which is to evaluate and prioritize housing needs and then identify specific concrete actions

1703
02:50:29,680 --> 02:50:33,960
for implementation both at the local jurisdictional level as well as regionally.

1704
02:50:35,380 --> 02:50:39,240
So I'm going to go through the key findings fairly quickly here just in the interest of time.

1705
02:50:40,280 --> 02:50:44,640
Again, we're doing this research for the True County region which also includes the two incorporated

1706
02:50:44,640 --> 02:50:51,380
jurisdictions and seven federally recognized tribal entities. One of the key findings that we identified

1707
02:50:51,380 --> 02:50:56,280
early on in the process is that according to the California Department of Finance as well as the

1708
02:50:56,280 --> 02:51:01,580
US Census Bureau, the region as a whole is lost population households over the last decade.

1709
02:51:03,540 --> 02:51:07,420
That's quite significant in terms of thinking about housing needs moving forward,

1710
02:51:07,420 --> 02:51:11,780
and also it's backing the question as to what's driving those population changes.

1711
02:51:12,560 --> 02:51:15,740
In terms of the distribution of the population across the region,

1712
02:51:15,740 --> 02:51:21,240
when specifically looking at Mono County, the town is really the main population center

1713
02:51:21,240 --> 02:51:25,040
with a minority of the population being dispersed through the unincorporated county.

1714
02:51:26,280 --> 02:51:36,720
The California Department of Finance, when thinking about population growth moving forward is expecting both in you and Mono County to continue losing population over the next decade or so.

1715
02:51:37,380 --> 02:51:41,660
Interestingly, the rate of change in Inu County is relatively slow.

1716
02:51:42,220 --> 02:51:47,800
The rate of change in Mono County is much more exaggerated and is forecasted to accelerate over time.

1717
02:51:48,440 --> 02:51:52,740
So that really begs the question of what's driving this population change?

1718
02:51:52,740 --> 02:51:57,460
You know, what are some of the key factors that are influencing individual and household

1719
02:51:57,460 --> 02:51:59,760
decisions in terms of where they live and work?

1720
02:52:00,560 --> 02:52:05,620
And as we've as we'll describe a little bit later, the comprehensive data that we've

1721
02:52:05,620 --> 02:52:11,220
collected is suggesting that housing availability and affordability is likely one contributing

1722
02:52:11,220 --> 02:52:12,860
factor for that decision making.

1723
02:52:14,580 --> 02:52:17,160
So there's a lot to unpack on this slide.

1724
02:52:17,870 --> 02:52:21,100
We won't get into all of it, but I'll direct you to the bottom right graph.

1725
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:30,380
This is essentially showing change in number of households by tenure between 2010 and the 2019-2023 American community survey.

1726
02:52:31,500 --> 02:52:34,440
And by tenure, we mean owner households and renter households.

1727
02:52:34,980 --> 02:52:43,780
And one key distinction that we see here is that accounting for this somewhat newer data that covers the pandemic and post-pandemic period.

1728
02:52:43,780 --> 02:52:52,280
It looks as though the region has lost more renter households and then has gained utter households over the same period of time.

1729
02:52:52,880 --> 02:52:57,020
So the first question we ask is this just renters transitioning into home ownership.

1730
02:52:57,580 --> 02:53:06,780
The data that we've evaluated seems to suggest that that may not be the primary driver and that there may be other factors that play more related to population household migration.

1731
02:53:13,180 --> 02:53:17,360
So, one of the data sources we looked at to try and get a better sense of what those

1732
02:53:17,360 --> 02:53:22,660
households and resident flows looked like was the U.S. Postal Service change of address

1733
02:53:22,660 --> 02:53:23,100
data.

1734
02:53:23,700 --> 02:53:27,200
And you've seen this information before, because I presented it as part of the short-term

1735
02:53:27,200 --> 02:53:32,580
rental study in 2024, and unfortunately, more recent data is not currently available.

1736
02:53:32,760 --> 02:53:36,880
The data source that we've previously been able to get this information from is no longer

1737
02:53:36,880 --> 02:53:41,300
making it available, and the alternatives have significantly increased costs that really

1738
02:53:41,300 --> 02:53:42,480
that puts it out of the range

1739
02:53:42,480 --> 02:53:44,360
of what would be reasonable for this project.

1740
02:53:44,840 --> 02:53:47,640
But really, the significant takeaway that we have

1741
02:53:47,640 --> 02:53:51,160
from this data is looking at the order of magnitude shift

1742
02:53:51,160 --> 02:53:53,900
between 2019 and 2020 in terms

1743
02:53:53,900 --> 02:53:56,060
of the change of address request activity.

1744
02:53:56,760 --> 02:53:59,280
So more than double the rate of people moving out

1745
02:53:59,280 --> 02:54:03,140
and moving into the county over the course of a single year

1746
02:54:03,140 --> 02:54:06,300
with that rate of change and movement

1747
02:54:06,300 --> 02:54:08,580
remaining elevated through 2022.

1748
02:54:08,580 --> 02:54:12,760
to the net effect of that seems to be a significant outflow

1749
02:54:13,380 --> 02:54:15,800
of residents at households from Mono County

1750
02:54:15,800 --> 02:54:17,240
over that time frame.

1751
02:54:17,600 --> 02:54:20,160
And it would be great to look at more recent data.

1752
02:54:20,340 --> 02:54:21,960
And again, unfortunate, that's just not available.

1753
02:54:22,480 --> 02:54:25,320
But it does seem to indicate that there may have been

1754
02:54:25,320 --> 02:54:27,720
some type of change over in the population

1755
02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:30,920
during that pandemic and immediately post-pendemic period

1756
02:54:31,280 --> 02:54:33,980
that is likely influencing some of these demographics

1757
02:54:33,980 --> 02:54:36,860
that we're looking at in terms of tenure household income

1758
02:54:36,860 --> 02:54:39,400
and some similar characteristics.

1759
02:54:40,020 --> 02:54:42,720
Erin, can I guess this is a supervisor criteria?

1760
02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:45,800
Just on this slide, can you confirm

1761
02:54:45,800 --> 02:54:50,040
that this data is for the unincorporated county

1762
02:54:50,040 --> 02:54:52,600
only or does this include the incorporated town?

1763
02:54:53,340 --> 02:54:55,320
I believe this is unincorporated only.

1764
02:54:55,480 --> 02:54:56,220
I'd have to double check.

1765
02:54:56,520 --> 02:54:59,980
We did pull separate data sets for the town.

1766
02:55:03,740 --> 02:55:05,840
I can confirm that for you.

1767
02:55:10,830 --> 02:55:34,490
So, then one of the reasons that this population and household loss in this changeover of resident population is significant is because the data seems to suggest that the two county eastern Sierra region is heavily dependent on a resident workforce for workforce availability. Looking at the commute float data, there doesn't seem to be a significant inflow of workers from outside the city.

1768
02:55:34,490 --> 02:55:39,050
side of the two county region, which makes a lot of sense recognizing the geography of

1769
02:55:39,050 --> 02:55:42,710
your region and your proximity to alternative large population centers.

1770
02:55:43,170 --> 02:55:48,670
There is a significant cross commute within the region between Inyo County and Mono County

1771
02:55:48,670 --> 02:55:54,590
and Vice Versa, so the county functions are the region functions as its own cohesive

1772
02:55:54,590 --> 02:55:59,790
labor market with a significant cross commute between the two major population centers within

1773
02:55:59,790 --> 02:56:00,290
the region.

1774
02:56:00,290 --> 02:56:05,090
Can I ask a question here? Did you not look at who commutes from Nevada?

1775
02:56:06,510 --> 02:56:12,010
We did look at people commuting in from Nevada. It was we looked at anybody commuting in

1776
02:56:12,010 --> 02:56:18,090
from anywhere outside of the two county region. And generally, we were seeing that for people

1777
02:56:18,090 --> 02:56:23,570
commuting into Mono County, only about 5% of workers were coming in from out of the two

1778
02:56:23,570 --> 02:56:28,110
county region. And that would include people coming in from the neighborhood.

1779
02:56:28,110 --> 02:56:42,230
5% of county, Mono County workers, not 5% of workers, like state, that would be 5% of workers in people commuting to jobs located in Mono County.

1780
02:56:43,330 --> 02:56:46,050
I think that that number is pretty low.

1781
02:56:46,970 --> 02:56:48,430
I mean, I see them on the road.

1782
02:56:49,010 --> 02:56:50,590
But anyway, so thank you.

1783
02:56:50,590 --> 02:56:55,050
Is that 5% of 6,285?

1784
02:56:57,400 --> 02:57:02,930
So the 6,285 is people that both live and work in Mono County.

1785
02:57:03,250 --> 02:57:06,330
So that would be the 6,285 plus the 915.

1786
02:57:08,030 --> 02:57:14,470
So 915 people commute from outside the county or Mono and Inyo County.

1787
02:57:14,610 --> 02:57:17,210
So those are people maybe coming in from Nevada.

1788
02:57:17,790 --> 02:57:22,730
Yeah, so the 915 includes anybody commuting into Mono County that includes

1789
02:57:24,310 --> 02:57:30,050
543 that are commuting from Inno into Mono. So there's a lot of complicated

1790
02:57:30,050 --> 02:57:33,250
math involved in this. This was the simplest way we could think of to illustrate

1791
02:57:33,250 --> 02:57:38,330
this graphically. It was like 300 something coming from perhaps Nevada 300

1792
02:57:38,330 --> 02:57:43,150
something. Right, right, and we do have detail on where workers are coming from

1793
02:57:43,150 --> 02:57:47,910
specifically. Okay and then can you say so

1794
02:57:49,960 --> 02:57:54,640
I guess I'd have to do the math I mean

1795
02:57:54,640 --> 02:58:02,000
you could just say how many folks are working in Mono County we see that we've got 6,285

1796
02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:12,000
that work and live in the county and then we've got 545 that commute in so we're pushing 7,000

1797
02:58:12,000 --> 02:58:19,420
workers in Mono County? That's correct. So you'd have about 7,200 workers and people that are

1798
02:58:19,420 --> 02:58:25,540
employed in Mono County based on this census transportation planning package data set.

1799
02:58:26,180 --> 02:58:32,300
Okay. And then it covers a period for 2017 to 2021. That's a pretty large percentage of our workforce

1800
02:58:32,300 --> 02:58:39,160
than that actually live in our county. Correct. Do you know that percentage? Or do I need to run it myself?

1801
02:58:39,160 --> 02:59:08,740
I can do that math really quick just one moment that must include the town then to yes I think it has yeah that would that would include the town as well so that's about 87% of the work people that are employed anywhere in Mono County including in the town also live in Mono County and that's really the key conclusion I were trying to emphasize here is that the region is highly dependent on a resident workforce which makes available workforce

1802
02:59:08,740 --> 02:59:12,720
of course, housing a critical issue for the community in terms of economic development?

1803
02:59:14,020 --> 02:59:17,060
I'm sorry, but I'm going to, I'm sure I'm going out of Q here.

1804
02:59:17,620 --> 02:59:20,620
But did you look at how many vacant jobs we have?

1805
02:59:20,980 --> 02:59:26,780
So if we have 7,200 people that are filling positions, and many of them filling, and

1806
02:59:26,780 --> 02:59:33,400
maybe this is here somewhere you're going to get to it, what percentage of them are filling multiple jobs?

1807
02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:36,560
And what is the vacancy rate that we're looking at?

1808
02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:39,160
and how many more jobs people do we need to fill jobs?

1809
02:59:39,880 --> 02:59:42,020
Is that good or is that good?

1810
02:59:42,020 --> 02:59:43,480
Yeah, so those are great questions.

1811
02:59:43,940 --> 02:59:45,300
And we will cover some of that.

1812
02:59:45,660 --> 02:59:48,260
Admittedly, getting a good sense of how many jobs are

1813
02:59:48,260 --> 02:59:51,900
going unfilled is a difficult question to answer.

1814
02:59:52,060 --> 02:59:53,720
The data is not particularly robust.

1815
02:59:54,600 --> 02:59:58,060
We did ask those questions as part of the employer survey.

1816
02:59:58,260 --> 02:59:59,960
And we'll talk about that a little bit.

1817
03:00:02,290 --> 03:00:32,170
You know what percentage of people are filling multiple jobs of those 7,200? How many are, because I think I saw somewhere, many people work multiple jobs. Yes. So as part of the resident worker survey, we did ask questions about the number of jobs that respondents are filling. And I want to say it was around maybe 30% or so. We're working more than one job off the top of my head. I want to say maybe

1818
03:00:32,170 --> 03:00:39,640
13% or so had I think 3 or more. Thank you there and appreciate your patience with me.

1819
03:00:40,160 --> 03:00:44,350
Yeah, no, happy to. And I do like taking questions on the fly like this. I think I'm happy to,

1820
03:00:45,600 --> 03:00:47,480
you know, respond to your questions as they come up.

1821
03:00:49,980 --> 03:00:51,820
So switching gears just a little bit talking

1822
03:00:51,820 --> 03:00:57,480
about housing stock characteristics. The region as a whole, as we see in most rural communities,

1823
03:00:58,200 --> 03:01:04,260
is heavily dependent on the tax single-family housing. In Mono County and Town of Man with Lakes,

1824
03:01:04,260 --> 03:01:10,120
we see a larger share of multi-family housing units really that's dominated by the inventory

1825
03:01:10,120 --> 03:01:15,280
located within the town of mammoth lakes with a little bit of multi-family around mammoth in the

1826
03:01:15,280 --> 03:01:20,840
unincorporated county and in Jude Lake largely speaking the multi-family inventory in the region

1827
03:01:20,840 --> 03:01:27,360
is comprised of a lot of for sale condominium units which are mainly oriented towards the second

1828
03:01:27,360 --> 03:01:33,500
home market and less so multi-family rental units so generally speaking we're observing and

1829
03:01:33,500 --> 03:01:38,200
I like the under supply of dedicated multi-family rental apartments throughout the region,

1830
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:40,280
not just Mono County, but also in New York as well.

1831
03:01:44,730 --> 03:01:49,990
So just speaking to housing vacancy briefly, it's one of the really important metrics

1832
03:01:49,990 --> 03:01:55,250
that we look at, particularly in rural resort communities, like Mono County and the Town of

1833
03:01:55,250 --> 03:01:55,750
Man with Lakes.

1834
03:01:56,310 --> 03:02:02,490
So we can see here that in Mono County, the total vacancy rate is quite elevated, county-wide,

1835
03:02:02,490 --> 03:02:08,090
including the town, your vacancy rate is about 60% of your housing stock that is vacant for

1836
03:02:08,090 --> 03:02:14,570
for some purpose or another. That vacancy rate is much lower in your county at about 15%,

1837
03:02:14,570 --> 03:02:20,130
which we would still consider elevated, but not nearly to the degree that we see in Mono County.

1838
03:02:20,650 --> 03:02:27,030
When looking at the components of that vacancy, one thing that we like to really focus in on is

1839
03:02:27,030 --> 03:02:31,890
seasonal vacancy. And these are units that are held vacant for what's called seasonal or occasional

1840
03:02:31,890 --> 03:02:36,710
use. That really includes your second homes, your short-term rentals, and those types of units.

1841
03:02:37,510 --> 03:02:42,790
So what you can see in MAMA, if the seasonal vacancy rates about 60% for Mono County is a whole,

1842
03:02:42,950 --> 03:02:47,270
it's about 50%, and then for the rest of the region it drops off quite significantly.

1843
03:02:48,710 --> 03:02:52,790
One thing that we, yes. Sorry, just a quick question looking at your

1844
03:02:52,790 --> 03:03:00,810
your legend, the seasonal housing vacancy rate, and the color for 81%. Is your map showing that

1845
03:03:01,890 --> 03:03:06,790
June Lake basically all the way down to mammoth is at that 81%.

1846
03:03:07,270 --> 03:03:09,410
So it would be sort of in that range.

1847
03:03:09,630 --> 03:03:11,650
So this is by census tract, I believe,

1848
03:03:12,010 --> 03:03:14,250
and so we're looking at much more concentrated areas,

1849
03:03:14,670 --> 03:03:18,030
but yes, the vacancy rate in June Lake is quite elevated,

1850
03:03:18,570 --> 03:03:20,670
much more comparable to mammoth lakes

1851
03:03:20,670 --> 03:03:22,910
in terms of overall levels of vacancy.

1852
03:03:23,310 --> 03:03:25,290
Yeah, you have two different census tracks there,

1853
03:03:25,370 --> 03:03:27,010
mammoth lakes is its own census track,

1854
03:03:27,170 --> 03:03:30,150
census track two at the 61 to 80,

1855
03:03:30,150 --> 03:03:35,570
but then June is up in the 81. Thanks. It's good to see it large like this.

1856
03:03:36,130 --> 03:03:36,670
Sure.

1857
03:03:39,060 --> 03:03:45,620
So then just speaking briefly about for sale housing costs, we broke down single-family

1858
03:03:45,620 --> 03:03:53,760
home sales for calendar year 2024 by jurisdiction as well as condominium sales and really focusing

1859
03:03:53,760 --> 03:03:59,020
on the median sale price I think is quite illustrative. Within, you know, Mono County as a whole,

1860
03:03:59,020 --> 03:04:05,220
we can see in the unincorporated area, the single-family and condominium prices are fairly

1861
03:04:05,220 --> 03:04:09,800
similar when you look at the unincorporated area of mediums at around 500,000.

1862
03:04:11,000 --> 03:04:16,800
Now, we would expect to see significant variation in housing price across the unincorporated

1863
03:04:16,800 --> 03:04:21,800
county. So, the condominium sale price in particular is really influenced by those units close to

1864
03:04:21,800 --> 03:04:25,400
and in June Lake, where the single family median price

1865
03:04:25,400 --> 03:04:29,180
for the unincorporated county includes units sold

1866
03:04:29,180 --> 03:04:30,460
throughout the remainder of the county.

1867
03:04:30,600 --> 03:04:32,860
Hence, we don't see a lot of variation there.

1868
03:04:33,320 --> 03:04:35,600
But then if we compare to mammoth lakes, for example,

1869
03:04:35,680 --> 03:04:37,480
we can see that detached single family housing

1870
03:04:37,480 --> 03:04:39,560
in the town is considerably more expensive

1871
03:04:39,560 --> 03:04:42,060
with a median price of closer 1.3 million

1872
03:04:42,060 --> 03:04:45,100
for a single family unit, 700,000 per unit

1873
03:04:45,100 --> 03:04:45,980
for a condominium.

1874
03:04:46,460 --> 03:04:49,320
So clearly we can see significant variation

1875
03:04:49,320 --> 03:04:51,920
in a housing cross across the region.

1876
03:04:52,680 --> 03:04:55,780
Erin, can I have one more question on that slide?

1877
03:04:56,660 --> 03:04:56,760
Sure.

1878
03:04:57,120 --> 03:04:59,980
Just to confirm that with...

1879
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:29,920
In the unincorporated county and the mammoth lakes, you weren't including any single family home on for service, lease land. That I would have to double check. I'm not sure that was one of the screening criteria we were using, but that's something we could revisit. Yeah, it's important because you can't live in that year round. And a lot of times are

1880
03:05:29,920 --> 03:05:33,520
older, maybe they cost a little bit less. I just would want to make sure that they're not

1881
03:05:35,100 --> 03:05:40,560
influencing that data. Thanks. Sure. We can double check that and we'll see if there's

1882
03:05:40,560 --> 03:05:44,800
a good way to try and identify those properties and screen them out. That's a thank you for that.

1883
03:05:48,270 --> 03:05:53,590
So looking at long-term rental rates throughout the region, this is a little bit tricky,

1884
03:05:53,590 --> 03:05:59,010
particularly when looking at the unincorporated areas because there aren't that many larger apartment

1885
03:05:59,010 --> 03:06:04,770
complexes. Most of the data sources we use to pull long-term trends data for the multi-family

1886
03:06:04,770 --> 03:06:12,410
rental market really focus on larger properties and so their coverage of more rural lowered density

1887
03:06:12,410 --> 03:06:19,270
communities is not as good. So what we tend to do in these contexts is screen a variety of different

1888
03:06:19,270 --> 03:06:24,810
publications for private rental listings. So that's looking at Zillow and Craigslist, looking at

1889
03:06:24,810 --> 03:06:31,550
the local newspapers, the sheet, man-of-times, and your register, etc. looking for those private

1890
03:06:31,550 --> 03:06:37,630
rental listings over some defined period of time. Based on that approach, we can get a snapshot

1891
03:06:37,630 --> 03:06:43,650
of what housing costs are, but unfortunately it doesn't give us as good of a perspective on the

1892
03:06:43,650 --> 03:06:50,650
change in housing costs over time within the rental market or vacancy rates. What we did identify

1893
03:06:50,650 --> 03:06:55,330
My is that rental housing costs are much higher in town with lakes with a weighted average

1894
03:06:55,330 --> 03:07:01,370
among those listings we identified about $3,200 per month for unincorporated mono-county

1895
03:07:01,370 --> 03:07:04,190
that was much lower at close to $2,400 a month.

1896
03:07:04,810 --> 03:07:09,690
Now unincorporated mono-rental rates were noticeably higher than we were seeing in Inyo County

1897
03:07:09,690 --> 03:07:10,170
as well.

1898
03:07:10,790 --> 03:07:14,070
So we do see some variation across the region as a whole.

1899
03:07:15,290 --> 03:07:22,370
Now, the kind of industry standard approach for trying to, you know, align incomes with

1900
03:07:22,370 --> 03:07:29,450
housing costs is to compare the State Department of Housing and Community Development's income

1901
03:07:29,450 --> 03:07:34,450
limits with estimated housing costs.

1902
03:07:35,050 --> 03:07:40,850
Now one thing we see in ruralers or communities is that oftentimes there's a significant mismatch

1903
03:07:40,850 --> 03:07:45,690
between the income needed to afford market rate housing and the income limits that are published by

1904
03:07:45,690 --> 03:07:51,750
HCD. So what we've done is prepare an alternative set of income limits that better illustrates that

1905
03:07:51,750 --> 03:08:00,190
alignment. So the specific for Mono County and this would be for the county as a whole. On the top

1906
03:08:00,190 --> 03:08:05,590
we can see the statutory income limits published by HCD. On the bottom we can see these alternative

1907
03:08:05,590 --> 03:08:12,110
thresholds at BAE calculated. One small point of detail, you'll see the term MFI in this figure

1908
03:08:12,110 --> 03:08:17,050
that's essentially comparable to AMI or area median income. There's a slight technical difference,

1909
03:08:17,250 --> 03:08:22,930
but they're not allergic. So when we look at market rate rental costs

1910
03:08:22,930 --> 03:08:27,730
throughout Mono County, we can see that market rate rentals in the unincorporated county generally

1911
03:08:27,730 --> 03:08:32,190
required income of about 120% of AMI in order to comfortably afford that

1912
03:08:32,190 --> 03:08:38,450
standard affordability criteria such as 30% of income. For market rate rentals and

1913
03:08:38,450 --> 03:08:42,550
ton of mammoth lakes, the required income is notably higher at closer to 150%

1914
03:08:42,550 --> 03:08:43,530
of AMI.

1915
03:08:45,960 --> 03:08:51,560
When looking at the for sale market, a median-priced for sale home in the

1916
03:08:51,560 --> 03:08:56,900
uncorporated county would generally be affordable at around 150% of AMI. If you're

1917
03:08:56,900 --> 03:09:01,560
looking at affordability for ton of mammoth lakes, that threshold is significant

1918
03:09:01,560 --> 03:09:08,020
and we hire in the single family market, it goes up to 350% of AMI, just to illustrate the gap

1919
03:09:08,020 --> 03:09:10,040
between housing costs and affordability.

1920
03:09:13,610 --> 03:09:16,170
So I'd just like to take a minute and talk about the survey

1921
03:09:16,170 --> 03:09:23,130
results. So we administered two survey tools between June and August of this year. We had both English

1922
03:09:23,130 --> 03:09:28,130
and Spanish versions, both of the online survey tool, and we had some printable versions,

1923
03:09:28,790 --> 03:09:33,750
and we conducted outreach across a wide variety of channels. And I really want to give Sandra and her

1924
03:09:33,750 --> 03:09:39,670
team a lot of credit for preparing the press releases for doing all the social media posts

1925
03:09:39,670 --> 03:09:45,510
and really helping to push out notifications and outreach for the two survey tools.

1926
03:09:46,590 --> 03:09:50,150
And generally speaking, I think we got a fairly robust response overall.

1927
03:09:50,790 --> 03:09:56,930
So we got 993 total responses to the resident workforce survey and that's across the two county

1928
03:09:56,930 --> 03:09:59,970
region. We had just under 200 total responses to the

1929
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:27,840
Employer survey. We were generally looking for a response rate of about 3 to 10%. And for the purposes of this evaluation, we're comparing our responses to total households across the region, because generally that's the kind of relationship we were trying to approximate, although we didn't specifically limit respondents to one per household. From Mono County as a whole, we were seeing a response rate of about 7.7% of households.

1930
03:10:30,360 --> 03:10:31,740
As you might expect, we got

1931
03:10:31,740 --> 03:10:37,320
the most responses from the larger incorporated jurisdictions where the majority of households

1932
03:10:37,320 --> 03:10:41,920
and residents are concentrated and then we got lower response rates across the

1933
03:10:41,920 --> 03:10:45,440
incorporated communities in those small census designated places.

1934
03:10:47,960 --> 03:10:48,880
Now here's some of the questions

1935
03:10:48,880 --> 03:10:56,560
that I think you were you were looking to see earlier. So when asking worker respondents about their

1936
03:10:56,560 --> 03:11:02,460
working conditions, again about a third indicated that they had more than one job and I got the next

1937
03:11:02,460 --> 03:11:07,420
statistic in correct, which is 7% said they had three or more jobs. I quoted 13 earlier

1938
03:11:07,420 --> 03:11:13,420
that was incorrect. I apologize. 90% of worker respondents are employed full-time,

1939
03:11:13,740 --> 03:11:18,940
and about 70% indicated that they're generally satisfied with their current housing situation.

1940
03:11:19,700 --> 03:11:24,640
Now, despite that, about a third indicated that they're actively looking for a new place to live,

1941
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:30,220
and about that same percentage said that they were concerned or very concerned about being able to

1942
03:11:30,220 --> 03:11:35,640
find and secure adequate housing. A little bit over half indicated that they're

1943
03:11:35,640 --> 03:11:39,320
overpaying for housing, so that they're paying 30% of their income to housing

1944
03:11:39,320 --> 03:11:43,560
costs, and about 13% said that they're paying 50% per

1945
03:11:43,560 --> 03:11:43,800
more.

1946
03:11:46,410 --> 03:11:50,930
We also asked worker respondents about their general housing preferences, so

1947
03:11:50,930 --> 03:11:55,850
what type of housing would they most ideally be able to occupy? And generally

1948
03:11:55,850 --> 03:11:59,250
speaking, we got the kind of results we would expect when asking preference

1949
03:11:59,250 --> 03:12:05,730
type questions. So 90% indicated that they would prefer to own their own home, but interestingly,

1950
03:12:06,150 --> 03:12:10,650
about 10% indicated that they would prefer to rent a home as a lifestyle choice.

1951
03:12:11,450 --> 03:12:16,490
In terms of housing type, we saw a strong preference for detached single-family homes,

1952
03:12:16,850 --> 03:12:21,430
but there was also an appetite or interest in things like apartments, duplexes, and townhomes

1953
03:12:21,430 --> 03:12:27,530
as well as mobile home units. In terms of location, proximity to major employment centers like

1954
03:12:27,530 --> 03:12:32,290
Mammoth and City of Bishop was identified as a priority in terms of the characteristics

1955
03:12:32,290 --> 03:12:36,550
of new units as well as the neighborhoods where they're situated. We got a lot of the

1956
03:12:36,550 --> 03:12:40,290
responses that you would expect in terms of amenities that a unit would have.

1957
03:12:40,750 --> 03:12:47,110
The one thing I'll specifically highlight here is very consistently we saw an indication that

1958
03:12:47,110 --> 03:12:53,150
workers number one priority was general affordability in terms of the main characteristic they were

1959
03:12:53,150 --> 03:12:55,150
looking for in a new place to live.

1960
03:12:57,800 --> 03:13:02,740
We also surveyed employers to get a sense of their general

1961
03:13:03,760 --> 03:13:09,020
business conditions as well as the extent to which they believe that their business is being

1962
03:13:09,020 --> 03:13:16,560
impacted by the availability or lack thereof of workforce housing. So 80% of employer respondents

1963
03:13:16,560 --> 03:13:22,720
were in the greater bishop and mammoth areas. Sixty-three of those respondents indicated that they had

1964
03:13:22,720 --> 03:13:29,560
jobs go unfilled during the most recent peak season. Of those 63 that indicated they had jobs

1965
03:13:29,560 --> 03:13:36,200
that went unfilled, they had an average per employer of 15 full-time positions and eight part-time

1966
03:13:36,200 --> 03:13:43,560
positions that were going unfilled, which I think is a fairly surprising and stark statistic.

1967
03:13:45,360 --> 03:13:50,260
68 indicated that they have year-round employees that they expect to retire some time over the next

1968
03:13:50,260 --> 03:13:56,080
five years with an average of about eight retirements per responded to employer.

1969
03:13:57,300 --> 03:14:02,220
And of those respondents that indicated that they had turnover over the last year,

1970
03:14:02,420 --> 03:14:07,000
the average amount of turnover was about 25%, which I think is quite significant,

1971
03:14:07,000 --> 03:14:14,560
but also speaks to the seasonal major of a lot of the jobs and employers that are in operation

1972
03:14:14,560 --> 03:14:20,220
throughout the region. In terms of outlook over the next five years, there was a bit of a mixed

1973
03:14:20,220 --> 03:14:26,940
response, but about 55% of employer respondents indicated that they expected their business to

1974
03:14:26,940 --> 03:14:32,760
be able to grow even more than currently forecasted if more workforce housing were made available.

1975
03:14:33,600 --> 03:14:39,240
In terms of the type of housing that employers seem to think would best suit the needs of their

1976
03:14:39,240 --> 03:14:45,320
employees that generally indicated both year round and seasonal rental housing, both apartment

1977
03:14:45,320 --> 03:14:50,080
and detached single family would go the furthest to meet their needs.

1978
03:14:53,640 --> 03:14:54,300
So then I want to touch

1979
03:14:54,300 --> 03:14:59,940
briefly on the workforce housing needs model. So this is where we really coalesced a variety of data

1980
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:26,520
I would like to ask the Board of Trustees to estimate the order of magnitude of unmet housing needs across the region. I specifically want to, on a juxtapose, this housing needs model exercise with the state HCD regional housing needs allocation process, which is a very different statutorily mandated process that jurisdictions have to go through as part of their housing element compliance.

1981
03:15:26,520 --> 03:15:37,320
Now, the Vienna allocation is generally speaking a mostly forward looking calculation, really trying to anticipate housing needs moving forward into the future.

1982
03:15:37,580 --> 03:15:41,600
There's a little bit of an adjustment made for some unmet housing needs.

1983
03:15:42,420 --> 03:15:52,080
And the approach that is taken can vary based on the jurisdiction, based on who's actually doing the calculation if it's HCD or if it's a regional council of government.

1984
03:15:52,080 --> 03:15:58,710
For the purposes of this housing needs model estimation, we looked at four main cohorts.

1985
03:15:58,950 --> 03:16:01,750
So we looked at full-time resident workforce households.

1986
03:16:02,230 --> 03:16:05,130
We looked at in-commuter workforce households.

1987
03:16:05,330 --> 03:16:10,470
So these are households that don't live in the region, but contain workers that commute

1988
03:16:10,470 --> 03:16:12,670
into the region on an ongoing basis.

1989
03:16:13,310 --> 03:16:17,390
And then we have seasonal worker households that are here, at least part of the time, are

1990
03:16:17,390 --> 03:16:19,010
working on less than a full-time basis.

1991
03:16:19,010 --> 03:16:24,250
and then we have additional homeless housing needs

1992
03:16:24,250 --> 03:16:26,470
based on the regional point in time count.

1993
03:16:28,030 --> 03:16:31,790
So regionally, we estimated there's about 3,200 households

1994
03:16:31,790 --> 03:16:36,410
across the two counties that exhibit unmet housing needs.

1995
03:16:36,690 --> 03:16:39,830
That includes about 2,200 resident workers,

1996
03:16:40,490 --> 03:16:42,490
about 600 seasonal worker households,

1997
03:16:43,150 --> 03:16:45,210
just under 300 in-commeter households,

1998
03:16:45,510 --> 03:16:47,350
and then 124 homeless individuals.

1999
03:16:48,290 --> 03:16:54,370
When we look specifically at unincorporated motocally, we're seeing about 700 households

2000
03:16:54,370 --> 03:16:56,130
exhibiting unmet housing needs.

2001
03:16:56,810 --> 03:17:02,290
As noted earlier, the majority of that need about 400 households or a little under 400 households

2002
03:17:03,070 --> 03:17:08,910
is among households earning 80% of the area median income and below, so significantly less

2003
03:17:08,910 --> 03:17:13,730
than what's required to afford market rate housing, but within the income range that could

2004
03:17:13,730 --> 03:17:18,070
be served through tax credit affordable housing development. So there are resources available,

2005
03:17:18,330 --> 03:17:25,750
for example, CDBG described earlier, that can be used to try and help meet the needs of households

2006
03:17:25,750 --> 03:17:32,590
within that income range. Now between 80 and 120 percent of AMI with 120 percent being the threshold

2007
03:17:32,590 --> 03:17:38,990
required to comfortably afford market rental housing in the unincorporated county is about 250 households

2008
03:17:38,990 --> 03:17:45,710
existing unmet need. And then between 120 and 150% of AMI, we really have households that

2009
03:17:45,710 --> 03:17:51,110
should be able to comfortably afford market rate rental housing, but might be otherwise locked

2010
03:17:51,110 --> 03:17:58,090
out of the for sale market. And so we've got about 60 units that fall into that housing income bracket.

2011
03:17:58,750 --> 03:18:05,250
Aaron, at the top of your graph there, it says unincorporated Mono County. So that's 699 households

2012
03:18:05,250 --> 03:18:09,390
hold needs in unincorporated Monocounty excluding the town.

2013
03:18:10,090 --> 03:18:10,710
That is correct.

2014
03:18:11,810 --> 03:18:14,110
Okay, because then on the left hand side,

2015
03:18:14,110 --> 03:18:15,510
there's a bunch of town stuff.

2016
03:18:16,790 --> 03:18:17,490
Yeah, just agree.

2017
03:18:18,090 --> 03:18:26,870
Yeah, mainly the information on the left is there to try and compare the identified need

2018
03:18:26,870 --> 03:18:30,730
with the pipeline of new development that's underway.

2019
03:18:31,810 --> 03:18:37,190
specific to Mono County as a whole, recognizing that the majority of the new housing production,

2020
03:18:37,370 --> 03:18:41,090
particularly at those lower income levels, is occurring within the town of Mammoth Lakes.

2021
03:18:41,890 --> 03:18:46,730
So they are making substrides to help meet those needs and those projects that are already

2022
03:18:46,730 --> 03:18:52,930
either built or under construction have already been to those units have been deducted from the

2023
03:18:52,930 --> 03:18:59,390
needs amount for the town, but not necessarily for the uncorporated county.

2024
03:18:59,950 --> 03:19:06,090
Now there are at least a few units that the county has recently put under contract

2025
03:19:06,370 --> 03:19:10,630
to make available for workforce housing, and those have been deducted from these needs

2026
03:19:10,630 --> 03:19:10,870
tools.

2027
03:19:11,870 --> 03:19:13,090
Yeah, thanks very much.

2028
03:19:13,130 --> 03:19:19,290
I just wanted to understand that graph not to, I'm not attempting to make a point that

2029
03:19:19,290 --> 03:19:27,090
the town and the county are different. I view it all as one model family and our benefits are universal when they're created. So thanks.

2030
03:19:28,510 --> 03:19:31,050
Aaron, this is supervisor crates again on that.

2031
03:19:32,150 --> 03:19:42,570
The 699 total housing units necessary needed in the unincorporated county of Mono is that as of today.

2032
03:19:42,570 --> 03:19:51,340
So it's based on a variety of data sources, but we have adjusted these to 2025.

2033
03:19:52,140 --> 03:19:57,420
So these are our best guests as of a 2025 calendar year estimate.

2034
03:19:57,420 --> 03:19:59,980
and can we anticipate any kind of...

2035
03:20:08,560 --> 03:20:29,980
So that's a great question, and it's a little bit tricky. We do have some language in the scope of work to potentially look at doing a forecast. I think particularly within this context, recognizing that the historical population and household loss and the projected future population household loss, I would actually probably discourage that.

2036
03:20:29,980 --> 03:20:36,680
you from doing a forecast at the moment and really focus on these needs as an order of magnitude,

2037
03:20:36,940 --> 03:20:43,200
point in time estimate and then think about ways to try and influence new housing supply and

2038
03:20:43,200 --> 03:20:49,960
new housing programs to address this need as is and then base your progress based off of the

2039
03:20:49,960 --> 03:20:54,680
number of new units you can put in service and or the number of households that you can serve through

2040
03:20:54,680 --> 03:20:57,480
other, you know, non-supply oriented programs.

2041
03:20:58,600 --> 03:20:59,380
Thank you.

2042
03:21:01,310 --> 03:21:05,390
And I think that does bring up an important point that I had mentioned earlier, which is

2043
03:21:06,350 --> 03:21:11,150
this need doesn't necessarily represent the number of units that need to be produced.

2044
03:21:11,750 --> 03:21:17,410
That is one strategy you could take. You could try and address all this need through new housing production.

2045
03:21:17,830 --> 03:21:22,590
You could also do it through a combination of approaches, some of which could include new supply,

2046
03:21:22,590 --> 03:21:28,350
Some of which could include other strategies aimed at addressing different types of housing

2047
03:21:28,350 --> 03:21:28,550
need.

2048
03:21:28,770 --> 03:21:35,090
For example, I'm sure you've heard of the program called Placement that I think the town

2049
03:21:35,090 --> 03:21:38,970
is working with, but a lot of other jurisdictions that I work with as well have worked with Placement

2050
03:21:38,970 --> 03:21:44,610
where they provide cash grants to property owners to make housing units available for long-term

2051
03:21:44,610 --> 03:21:45,230
occupancy.

2052
03:21:45,410 --> 03:21:50,710
And in some cases, that includes a buy-down of the rental rate to a certain affordability

2053
03:21:50,710 --> 03:21:51,070
level.

2054
03:21:51,070 --> 03:21:56,310
And so those types of programs can also be deployed to try and improve affordability with

2055
03:21:56,310 --> 03:21:57,810
an existing housing unit, for example.

2056
03:22:01,760 --> 03:22:06,960
So just quickly looking at the need broken down across income level and with some detail

2057
03:22:06,960 --> 03:22:13,220
by jurisdiction, we can see that the need regionally really drops off at that 150% of AMI level.

2058
03:22:13,420 --> 03:22:19,620
And that's because we're really discounting estimated housing needs for among households that

2059
03:22:19,620 --> 03:22:21,900
that are earning income sufficient

2060
03:22:21,900 --> 03:22:24,740
to afford market rate housing throughout the region,

2061
03:22:24,880 --> 03:22:27,460
and we're breaking that down by jurisdiction,

2062
03:22:28,020 --> 03:22:29,900
kind of using that same approach you saw me describe

2063
03:22:29,900 --> 03:22:31,540
earlier with regard to the income limits.

2064
03:22:33,260 --> 03:22:35,920
Looking at estimated housing need by unit size,

2065
03:22:35,920 --> 03:22:39,000
so we do have some good detail with regard to household size,

2066
03:22:39,340 --> 03:22:41,640
we convert that to unit size using a definition

2067
03:22:41,640 --> 03:22:44,080
of one person per household, sorry,

2068
03:22:44,200 --> 03:22:46,040
one person per bedroom plus one,

2069
03:22:46,480 --> 03:22:47,820
that's kind of a standard definition,

2070
03:22:47,820 --> 03:22:54,060
There's a few different definitions of appropriately sized units that we could have chosen from.

2071
03:22:55,400 --> 03:23:01,460
Generally speaking, we're seeing the need really concentrated mostly among that studio and one bedroom category.

2072
03:23:02,180 --> 03:23:17,440
And this I think is really emphasizing the mismatch between the characteristics of the existing housing stock, which skews larger with a lot of two and three bedroom units compared to household sizes, particularly at those lower income levels, where they really only need maybe a studio or one bedroom unit.

2073
03:23:17,440 --> 03:23:27,440
And so if they're in a situation where the only thing available is much larger that puts them in a position to overpay for housing and over consume housing because there's really nothing that suitably sized for them.

2074
03:23:29,930 --> 03:23:33,150
So next I just like to touch very briefly on next steps.

2075
03:23:33,850 --> 03:23:43,450
So we are in the process of wrapping up the draft report. We're hoping to get that to the collective housing committee within the next week or two for review and consideration.

2076
03:23:43,450 --> 03:23:52,030
and then that'll be made public for public review and consumption and then moving into winter and spring of 2026.

2077
03:23:52,190 --> 03:24:09,310
We'll start moving into that action planning process. The first step of which is to continue talking about the key findings from the needs assessment component and what that means in terms of potential action steps for the jurisdictions, as well as the region of the whole as a whole to consider.

2078
03:24:09,670 --> 03:24:11,310
So we look forward to bringing this back to you then.

2079
03:24:11,310 --> 03:24:12,030
Thank

2080
03:24:21,020 --> 03:24:26,040
you very much Aaron, great presentation, really good job.

2081
03:24:26,880 --> 03:24:31,460
Let's stop for a second here and see if there's any questions, comments from the board.

2082
03:24:36,620 --> 03:24:40,820
Your winter spring, 2026, you've got three workshops listed.

2083
03:24:41,500 --> 03:24:47,360
Are those workshops at each governing entity that are part of this regional?

2084
03:24:47,740 --> 03:24:48,780
Are they at SCOG?

2085
03:24:49,020 --> 03:24:52,340
Are they outside of regular board presentations?

2086
03:24:52,340 --> 03:24:53,900
questions. What are you envision for those?

2087
03:24:54,600 --> 03:24:58,540
That is a great question. That is something the Collective Housing Committee that again

2088
03:24:58,540 --> 03:24:59,820
comprises representatives.

2089
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:29,920
We're talking about the ordinance from each of the jurisdictions and the COG has yet to really unpack and decide how they want to approach that. So we're scoped to do four workshop sessions, which generally would include maybe a one or two hour meeting. In one location where we would have public participation and participation by decision makers. We're open to modifying that approach to really meet the needs and preferences of decision makers.

2090
03:25:29,920 --> 03:25:36,340
in the public. So I think the one of the first action items that the collective housing committee

2091
03:25:36,340 --> 03:25:42,040
will have when moving into early next year will be to discuss and finalize exactly how we want

2092
03:25:42,040 --> 03:25:48,180
to approach that outreach process. Okay, thanks. However, we do it. I mean, housing for many,

2093
03:25:48,400 --> 03:25:56,980
it's a universal, but it's also a very personal issue. So how we capture, you know, individual

2094
03:25:57,540 --> 03:26:11,020
families and locals experience I think is going to be important. We're talking about solutions and we don't have to figure that out now. I just think it's something we need to be mindful of is how we capture that. Thank you.

2095
03:26:11,020 --> 03:26:12,920
Is there any public comment?

2096
03:26:16,320 --> 03:26:18,480
There are no hands raised on Zoom.

2097
03:26:20,760 --> 03:26:25,600
Any particular guidance or input to staff on this topic?

2098
03:26:29,300 --> 03:26:30,980
I think that kind of came to my mind.

2099
03:26:31,000 --> 03:26:33,900
It was perfectly timed with the CBDG grant.

2100
03:26:35,340 --> 03:26:38,400
Looking at everything sort of at one time.

2101
03:26:39,100 --> 03:26:47,140
So, the next time we will hear from this group will be workshops then, or spring, winter

2102
03:26:47,140 --> 03:26:48,000
spring 26.

2103
03:26:48,800 --> 03:26:53,920
Yeah, and as Erin noted, they're putting together the report, and it's a pretty hefty

2104
03:26:53,920 --> 03:26:54,320
report.

2105
03:26:54,680 --> 03:26:58,420
Some are between Adder and 50 or 300 pages with the penises.

2106
03:26:59,260 --> 03:27:03,320
So, the next time I think you hear from us on this will be forwarding on that report.

2107
03:27:03,620 --> 03:27:05,300
So, at least you have a copy of it.

2108
03:27:05,300 --> 03:27:09,460
We'll push that off to the public, and that should be here in the next month or so.

2109
03:27:09,460 --> 03:27:15,660
It might be after the first of the year, these errands going to provide the draft report to this group here.

2110
03:27:15,700 --> 03:27:20,920
We'll review it and we'll go back and forth and then really sit to the public, but so we'll provide that.

2111
03:27:21,080 --> 03:27:29,880
And then as we go into 2026, we can look at schedules as Aaron mentioned, and we can talk maybe to the housing ad hoc about this as well.

2112
03:27:29,880 --> 03:27:36,960
is do we want to see this similar kind of coming to every single board, would we want and maybe we,

2113
03:27:37,080 --> 03:27:41,120
maybe some workshops are different than others depending on the information that's presented,

2114
03:27:41,300 --> 03:27:45,820
maybe the final workshop warrants coming to every single board, but maybe the two,

2115
03:27:46,780 --> 03:27:52,120
so previous workshops before the final one is a community workshop like we did in July,

2116
03:27:52,800 --> 03:27:58,680
we had one here in Ameth and then one in Bishop. So we can talk through that with Erin and the team.

2117
03:27:59,340 --> 03:28:08,680
And then the action plan is that part of the report or is that separate from the 300, 150 to 300 page document?

2118
03:28:08,960 --> 03:28:10,720
Yeah, the action plan I think will be separate.

2119
03:28:10,920 --> 03:28:18,220
So the report that we're trying to finalize right now is the report that includes all of this data, the housing needs assessment data.

2120
03:28:18,440 --> 03:28:21,740
And then the actual, the action plan will be a second piece.

2121
03:28:21,960 --> 03:28:28,080
And I'm not quite sure Aaron if they'll come together as a package or if they'll be two separate documents that I don't think we've talked about that.

2122
03:28:28,740 --> 03:28:33,820
Yeah, that's something we can consider and make a final decision on a little bit later

2123
03:28:33,820 --> 03:28:39,100
down the line. My general expectation is that they will probably end up being two separate

2124
03:28:39,100 --> 03:28:46,340
documents, just because the action plan is much more of a readily accessible kind of guiding

2125
03:28:46,340 --> 03:28:53,380
documents where the needs assessment is just is a very thorough review of data which might go

2126
03:28:53,380 --> 03:28:58,460
well beyond what you know the average you know resident might be interested in

2127
03:28:58,460 --> 03:29:02,560
waiting through so generally I would recommend maybe keeping them separate but

2128
03:29:02,560 --> 03:29:06,660
also making them both available probably on the same platform on the same

2129
03:29:06,660 --> 03:29:14,420
webpage for example. Sure yeah I mean I think as as one leader I think the action

2130
03:29:14,420 --> 03:29:21,800
plans going to be hugely important in driving decisions like the ones we make

2131
03:29:21,800 --> 03:29:28,380
today and at every meeting and so is there a timeline for the action plan?

2132
03:29:31,240 --> 03:29:36,700
So we'll need to be updating our project schedule for following this process once we get the draft

2133
03:29:36,700 --> 03:29:43,760
report out for review by the CHC. But we are expecting to wrap up that action planning process

2134
03:29:43,760 --> 03:29:48,720
probably in the spring of this next year. So really this data collection process oftentimes

2135
03:29:48,720 --> 03:29:54,100
takes the longest because it just requires a lot of effort to collect that

2136
03:29:54,100 --> 03:29:58,900
information, review it thoroughly, summarize it succinctly, and then the action

2137
03:29:58,900 --> 03:29:59,900
planning process hopefully.

2138
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,840
We can move forward efficiently. Okay, that's great. I mean, I think one of the things for me that struck me for the county and it makes sense if you think about our housing stock is the need for studios and one bedrooms and, you know, we drive people towards single-family homes. We do it with our condominiums and June

2139
03:30:29,840 --> 03:30:34,840
like for example and saying that they're not adequate, they're not appropriate for residents

2140
03:30:34,840 --> 03:30:40,520
and they're probably what we actually need because they're smaller than single-family homes generally.

2141
03:30:41,900 --> 03:30:46,280
And then I think about like the condo or the apartments we bought in

2142
03:30:47,260 --> 03:30:52,580
Bridgeport and those are two bedrooms and so I think as we start to look at the leaf-ining property

2143
03:30:52,580 --> 03:30:59,420
we should be considering studios and one bedrooms there and not two bedrooms and three

2144
03:30:59,420 --> 03:31:04,600
bedrooms, et cetera, to complement what we already know, we have a

2145
03:31:04,600 --> 03:31:09,240
dearth of our plenty of because we have so many single-family

2146
03:31:09,240 --> 03:31:11,700
residences in that incorporated county.

2147
03:31:12,720 --> 03:31:16,880
And one of the other things that strikes me is that income

2148
03:31:17,820 --> 03:31:21,920
level that the rentals are affordable to are so high.

2149
03:31:22,060 --> 03:31:28,100
It's like 150% of the AMI can afford market rate rents.

2150
03:31:28,960 --> 03:31:35,300
But one of the things I think we see a lot is that the rental units aren't of the quality

2151
03:31:35,300 --> 03:31:42,560
that 150% AMI units are, 150% AMI households would really want.

2152
03:31:42,880 --> 03:31:47,180
I mean, they're dilapidated and not up-capped and not current.

2153
03:31:48,180 --> 03:31:53,680
And so there's really is a great, I mean, beyond just the size but just the quality,

2154
03:31:53,680 --> 03:32:01,880
there's a great mismatch between affordability and the market that they are affordable to,

2155
03:32:02,200 --> 03:32:08,420
so just some commentary. But I do thank you so much Erin and the whole team that's been working on

2156
03:32:08,420 --> 03:32:12,400
this tirelessly. Thank you to you all as well.

2157
03:32:14,500 --> 03:32:19,940
So the public, I'm sorry, what I'm saying. Okay,

2158
03:32:19,940 --> 03:32:26,060
So Aaron, thank you. We're going to end this up now and appreciate your being here.

2159
03:32:26,620 --> 03:32:27,260
Thank you.

2160
03:32:27,620 --> 03:32:30,780
All right. So we now are going to go into closed session.

2161
03:32:31,780 --> 03:32:35,220
That's a lunch. I think there's somebody out here from the IMT.

2162
03:32:36,360 --> 03:32:37,540
I'll be here around one.

2163
03:32:38,000 --> 03:32:39,020
Yeah. So they're here.

2164
03:32:39,320 --> 03:32:39,640
Oh, there are.

2165
03:32:39,900 --> 03:32:40,220
Yeah.

2166
03:32:41,840 --> 03:32:42,280
Okay.

2167
03:32:44,420 --> 03:32:46,320
So maybe we can chat with him.

2168
03:32:46,320 --> 03:32:52,700
They know I had let them know that it would be around one, so I think they got here a little early, so we'll sign with that.

2169
03:32:53,120 --> 03:32:53,320
Okay.

2170
03:32:56,200 --> 03:32:59,700
Somebody from the incident management team helped with the...

2171
03:33:08,760 --> 03:33:12,280
It didn't exist, and we should give them all the time.

2172
03:33:12,580 --> 03:33:13,020
Yes, yes.

2173
03:33:13,120 --> 03:33:20,660
And if there's something else on this agenda that should be moved, that discussion should be happening like the

2174
03:33:22,830 --> 03:33:23,830
chair and...

2175
03:33:23,830 --> 03:33:24,010
Yes.

2176
03:33:24,010 --> 03:33:28,430
We've been chatting about what we could push if we need to.

2177
03:33:29,630 --> 03:33:32,630
Yeah, if we just, yeah.

2178
03:33:34,950 --> 03:33:39,930
So can I just clarify because like you said, it's not on the agenda and there's a lot

2179
03:33:39,930 --> 03:33:44,470
of public comment that is waiting that don't know that this is on the agenda.

2180
03:33:44,470 --> 03:33:56,150
So, I'm seeing that item 7F is going to incorporate the PAC fire discussion.

2181
03:33:56,850 --> 03:33:58,610
Public comment will be available.

2182
03:33:59,130 --> 03:34:05,810
We will have some representatives from Incident Command, there, and that would be the appropriate

2183
03:34:05,810 --> 03:34:06,210
time.

2184
03:34:06,210 --> 03:34:11,730
It's going to be sometime after 1 o'clock, that gives people time that want to come in person.

2185
03:34:11,730 --> 03:34:16,210
or the consume, is that how I'm telling you now?

2186
03:34:16,570 --> 03:34:17,290
Yes, to do that.

2187
03:34:17,750 --> 03:34:19,970
Okay, and the sheriff will also present as well.

2188
03:34:20,470 --> 03:34:21,990
We'll be available again, too.

2189
03:34:42,860 --> 03:34:45,380
After one, we're thinking, yeah.

2190
03:34:46,820 --> 03:34:49,860
We're hoping to submit the hazard mitigation plan

2191
03:34:49,860 --> 03:34:52,640
to Cal OES and FEMA as soon as possible

2192
03:34:52,640 --> 03:34:54,860
because we don't know what that timeline is like,

2193
03:34:54,860 --> 03:34:58,060
especially with the federal government having just shut down

2194
03:34:58,060 --> 03:34:59,860
and we don't know what they're reviewed.

2195
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:21,500
The timeline is like, so we just wanted to get it in their queue. Having said that, the timeline is under the board's control. Right, and I can't remember off the top of my head when our grant contract expires, but just the further we push it back the June of next year, I think, okay, thank you, Paul.

2196
03:35:23,540 --> 03:35:29,460
We could bring it back the first meeting in December, if that's the board's pleasure.

2197
03:35:29,460 --> 03:35:32,600
That would be the 9th December 9th because the number 90 is cancelled.

2198
03:35:39,070 --> 03:35:40,470
We could push that item.

2199
03:35:42,690 --> 03:35:46,130
We could push the housing program update if you'd like to December.

2200
04:31:56,240 --> 04:31:57,320
How long is that, the

2201
04:32:00,460 --> 04:32:28,760
question? Okay, we're going to get back to the regular agenda in the afternoon here trying to wait until some people show up here. So we're going to do item number d, d, d, d. Yes, d, agreement regarding terms and conditions of employment, public agenda. And Chris, you walk us through this. Yes, thank you, chair. See, providers, Christopher, that county council before you is an agreement regarding the terms and conditions.

2202
04:32:28,760 --> 04:32:31,200
I'm employment for the public defender from Mono County.

2203
04:32:31,900 --> 04:32:35,740
The candidate proposed selected by the board is Attorney Jeremy Ibrahim.

2204
04:32:36,520 --> 04:32:37,820
I know he intended to be here today.

2205
04:32:37,820 --> 04:32:38,820
He may be on Zoom.

2206
04:32:39,420 --> 04:32:46,020
I know he had a one o'clock appearance in Inyo County, and he is actually just confirmed he's still in court in Inyo County.

2207
04:32:46,160 --> 04:32:51,880
So he otherwise wanted to be here but is unable, it's an out-will contract.

2208
04:32:52,400 --> 04:32:57,600
And the position will report to the board of supervisors as required by the California government code.

2209
04:32:57,600 --> 04:32:59,300
Bill, for any questions?

2210
04:32:59,800 --> 04:33:00,260
Any questions?

2211
04:33:03,840 --> 04:33:06,740
I was just going to say thank you.

2212
04:33:10,470 --> 04:33:10,650
Okay.

2213
04:33:11,570 --> 04:33:14,930
Let me read the fiscal impact on this one, please.

2214
04:33:16,150 --> 04:33:22,090
It is the estimated cost of this position for the remainder of the fiscal year is $106,913.

2215
04:33:22,830 --> 04:33:28,110
Over $68,430 is salary and $38,483 is benefits.

2216
04:33:28,110 --> 04:33:42,010
It's a total cost of salary and benefits for an entire fiscal year, $314,519 of which $205,924 is salary and $108,595 is benefits.

2217
04:33:42,330 --> 04:33:47,390
This is included in the public defenders fiscal year 2025-26 adopted budget.

2218
04:33:48,250 --> 04:33:49,450
So I'd entertain a motion, please.

2219
04:33:50,030 --> 04:33:50,130
Move.

2220
04:33:50,510 --> 04:33:50,830
Second.

2221
04:33:51,190 --> 04:33:52,750
Give a motion, a second, all in favor.

2222
04:33:53,350 --> 04:33:53,750
All right.

2223
04:33:54,030 --> 04:33:55,790
Motion passes unanimously.

2224
04:33:56,370 --> 04:33:57,050
Thank you very much, please.

2225
04:33:57,050 --> 04:33:58,150
Thank you. I appreciate it.

2226
04:33:59,630 --> 04:34:00,790
What about 10-8?

2227
04:34:02,450 --> 04:34:02,970
More bridge.

2228
04:34:04,190 --> 04:34:04,730
No, that's.

2229
04:34:07,810 --> 04:34:11,990
We could do that one or we could do the ratification of the local emergency, which is really

2230
04:34:11,990 --> 04:34:12,670
able to do that.

2231
04:34:15,270 --> 04:34:19,870
And Wendy Sikamura told me that we can push the multigerestictional hazard mitigation plan

2232
04:34:19,870 --> 04:34:21,010
to December 9th.

2233
04:34:21,010 --> 04:34:21,990
Okay. We'll do that.

2234
04:34:23,270 --> 04:34:25,190
Okay. What number is that one?

2235
04:34:27,190 --> 04:34:28,490
A-G. I can see seven.

2236
04:34:28,930 --> 04:34:30,770
Seven-G. G. page seven.

2237
04:34:32,410 --> 04:34:38,670
Okay. Let's do the ratification proclamation of local emergencies, PAC fire, and who's

2238
04:34:38,670 --> 04:34:39,270
going to take that?

2239
04:34:39,670 --> 04:34:44,270
I can introduce the one in Chris is also here to assist us.

2240
04:34:44,510 --> 04:34:48,150
So as you're aware, the PAC fire broke out last Thursday.

2241
04:34:48,150 --> 04:34:57,350
We issued a Proclamation of Local Emergency that is required to be ratified by the board within seven days.

2242
04:34:57,610 --> 04:34:59,870
So we're here asking the board to ratify.

2243
04:35:00,750 --> 04:35:30,230
That proclamation of local emergency, it's attached in your packet. And if this is the same thing Chris talked about earlier, so this will be on the same, provided the board ratifies it. It will be on the same schedule as the local health emergency. So it's that 60 day timeline when we come back to continue it if needed. So so this is really a formal, just a formal ratification of that. And this is the resolution, the proclamation that was issued last Thursday on November 13th.

2244
04:35:30,230 --> 04:35:35,230
I'm not happy to answer any questions or questions or questions.

2245
04:35:35,750 --> 04:35:40,230
Okay, this is a proposed action of adopting the proposed resolution ratifying

2246
04:35:40,230 --> 04:35:45,850
proclamation of local emergency related to the pack fire made by director of emergency services on the

2247
04:35:45,850 --> 04:35:50,270
11th, 13th, 2025. So I have a motion to approve.

2248
04:35:50,810 --> 04:35:54,470
Motion to approve. Second. We have a motion to second. All in favor.

2249
04:35:55,150 --> 04:35:57,350
We should pass this unanimously.

2250
04:36:04,260 --> 04:36:08,000
Senator, do you want to try to take the courberage?

2251
04:36:08,460 --> 04:36:10,160
Yeah, let me pull it up.

2252
04:36:11,080 --> 04:36:11,600
10A.

2253
04:36:25,500 --> 04:36:30,580
Okay, so we'll move on, I guess, to item 10A, which is approval of amendments to the trust

2254
04:36:30,580 --> 04:36:36,220
agreements with courberage financial to allow employer-directed transfer of plan assets.

2255
04:36:36,940 --> 04:36:42,980
This item was before the board, back in July, and the board continued the item, and the staff

2256
04:36:42,980 --> 04:36:48,760
has put together the package that you see attached here. The item that you'll see that wasn't

2257
04:36:48,760 --> 04:36:53,980
included in the previous packet was the response to comments raised on July 8th. So staff went through,

2258
04:36:54,180 --> 04:37:00,880
listen to the items that were raised by Mr. Kailer, provided responses to those, and we're back here

2259
04:37:00,880 --> 04:37:08,400
before you asking to move forward with the transfer of poor bridge. So as you recall, in December of last

2260
04:37:08,400 --> 04:37:14,700
year the board approved transferring all of our 457 and 401A assets to a company called

2261
04:37:14,700 --> 04:37:21,640
Empower. And when we did that, we realized after the fact that this company corporate

2262
04:37:21,640 --> 04:37:26,740
requires a more, they require a different requirement from the board. They require the board

2263
04:37:26,740 --> 04:37:31,120
to ask for this transfer. So it wasn't as simple as the other assets that we transferred.

2264
04:37:31,120 --> 04:37:36,420
So this is really kind of the last piece of the puzzle for this transfer. And we do have

2265
04:37:36,420 --> 04:37:43,020
a fiduciary that we've hired independent of and empower and her name is Maribel. I believe

2266
04:37:43,020 --> 04:37:48,040
she's available online if there's any questions about it. I'm happy to take questions that you

2267
04:37:48,040 --> 04:37:51,520
have. If they're real detailed questions, we may need to continue and come back. It just really

2268
04:37:51,520 --> 04:37:57,160
depends on the questions or concerns that are raised today. But with that I'll turn it over to

2269
04:37:57,160 --> 04:38:01,840
questions and if I don't know if Maribel is on, no, okay, I did tell her to a clock because I thought

2270
04:38:01,840 --> 04:38:18,800
but we were going to have the PAC fire update first, so, but if there's any questions, I'm happy to take them and come back, otherwise, we would recommend that the Board approve this and provide direction to the chair to sign the agreements so that we can move forward with this last piece of the transfer.

2271
04:38:20,020 --> 04:38:20,500
Questions?

2272
04:38:22,320 --> 04:38:24,240
So this is the last piece then.

2273
04:38:24,240 --> 04:38:28,020
As far as we know, yes, with the issue, I don't know if you want to talk a little about

2274
04:38:28,020 --> 04:38:28,420
Corbridge.

2275
04:38:28,800 --> 04:38:33,640
They require that we ask them to go through this process, and then there could be something

2276
04:38:33,640 --> 04:38:38,660
else that they require from us, so we're trying to start this process with Corbridge, and

2277
04:38:38,660 --> 04:38:39,560
this is the first piece.

2278
04:38:39,780 --> 04:38:44,160
We could be back with some other document that they require that you adopt, but as far as

2279
04:38:44,160 --> 04:38:50,220
we know, this is the last piece of it, unless something, if it comes up from Corbridge.

2280
04:38:50,580 --> 04:38:51,300
We don't expect.

2281
04:38:51,600 --> 04:38:51,700
Yeah.

2282
04:38:51,700 --> 04:38:55,040
But after this is done, all employees will be transferred to a power.

2283
04:38:55,680 --> 04:39:00,520
And then as I noted in the staff report, it's best practice to go through this every three to five years.

2284
04:39:00,520 --> 04:39:08,360
It'll be a much lighter lift because we've just gone through this heavy lift, which I don't think we had done comprehensively in over 20 years.

2285
04:39:10,000 --> 04:39:17,540
Okay, so then this would be the approval and authorize the chair to sign the attached first amendments to the trust agreements with corporate financial.

2286
04:39:17,540 --> 04:39:23,800
both the 401 and the 457 allowing employer direct transfers of plan assets.

2287
04:39:24,340 --> 04:39:29,220
Our trust company LLC is authorized for the Board of Directors, the Board in

2288
04:39:29,220 --> 04:39:33,040
December of 24. So this was just one more piece of that same action.

2289
04:39:33,660 --> 04:39:33,760
Yes.

2290
04:39:34,020 --> 04:39:35,240
All right, motion.

2291
04:39:36,460 --> 04:39:36,880
Some moved.

2292
04:39:37,600 --> 04:39:37,820
Second.

2293
04:39:38,720 --> 04:39:39,080
Okay.

2294
04:39:39,340 --> 04:39:40,160
All in favor?

2295
04:39:40,660 --> 04:39:41,040
All right.

2296
04:39:41,560 --> 04:39:41,940
Motion passed.

2297
04:39:42,100 --> 04:39:42,600
This 5-0.

2298
04:39:43,620 --> 04:39:44,780
The public comment.

2299
04:39:45,400 --> 04:39:48,480
Oh, thank you. It was already probably coming in there.

2300
04:39:52,520 --> 04:39:54,020
There are no hands raised on Zoom.

2301
04:39:57,730 --> 04:39:59,970
Sorry, chairsel Sido. There are no hands raised on Zoom.

2302
04:40:23,710 --> 04:40:27,770
Thank you for a public comment. Thank you.

2303
04:40:27,770 --> 04:40:36,730
We'll stand there. That's fine. Well, okay. All right. All right. Let's go ahead and do the Chris update. Kirk. Hi there.

2304
04:40:38,170 --> 04:40:39,090
Good morning, chair.

2305
04:40:40,730 --> 04:40:43,090
It's not morning anymore. Is it?

2306
04:40:43,230 --> 04:40:43,810
Good afternoon.

2307
04:40:46,710 --> 04:40:53,750
So, um, thanks for having me. It's actually been a productive couple weeks since we were last before the board.

2308
04:40:53,750 --> 04:41:02,250
And so to update you on what's happening, the most exciting piece is that the June

2309
04:41:02,250 --> 04:41:10,910
Shale Radio site is now fully online. And so we have three out of the five grant

2310
04:41:10,910 --> 04:41:18,070
funded sites fully online. We're only lacking two to get us to the 100% point for the

2311
04:41:18,070 --> 04:41:26,550
state sites that would be Mammoth Lakes Fire Station 1 is online, Lincoln Mountain is online,

2312
04:41:27,890 --> 04:41:33,070
and now June Shelley is online. So we're pretty excited about that.

2313
04:41:35,840 --> 04:41:37,360
I'm trying to, sorry,

2314
04:41:37,540 --> 04:41:42,560
I'm fiddling with my computer, trying to make sure I have my notes in the video up at the same time.

2315
04:41:44,960 --> 04:41:51,740
The remaining sites, Antelope Valley Fire Station in Coville, Lockert Region is one of

2316
04:41:51,740 --> 04:41:53,900
the remaining ones that's continuing to move forward.

2317
04:41:54,060 --> 04:42:01,460
We're in the final stages of the permitting process, and so it's moving along a little

2318
04:42:01,460 --> 04:42:06,400
slower than we liked, but it's still working good, community development, and our team have

2319
04:42:06,400 --> 04:42:07,940
been working hand in hand with that.

2320
04:42:10,780 --> 04:42:15,760
The shelter has been completed and it's been awaiting delivery for quite some time and

2321
04:42:15,760 --> 04:42:20,100
it's looking right now that it's going to be delivered sometime in the month of December.

2322
04:42:20,760 --> 04:42:29,540
So, all of L.A. Fire site is continuing to move forward and I don't have any updates regarding

2323
04:42:29,540 --> 04:42:51,500
the last site, which is the AT&T site overlooking Benton, other than that, I'm continuing to reach out to make more context and exert a little more pressure with both CaloyS and AT&T to make sure that what we can do is done to get that site moving forward.

2324
04:42:51,500 --> 04:42:59,160
We have a radio work group of in-county and regional folks, first responders.

2325
04:42:59,880 --> 04:43:06,280
We met on November 6th, where I presented where the paramedics, the county administration,

2326
04:43:07,120 --> 04:43:11,220
sheriff's department, sheriff's dispatch, the county search and rescue, town and health

2327
04:43:11,220 --> 04:43:18,500
lakes administration, police department, hospital and allot-value fire, and it was just mostly

2328
04:43:18,500 --> 04:43:23,860
a status update this time, as well as a demonstration of the actual Chris system working.

2329
04:43:24,420 --> 04:43:29,180
We had a staff member in Bridgeport on a handheld talking on Chris, a staff member in

2330
04:43:29,180 --> 04:43:32,240
Mammoth Lakes on a handheld talk and on Chris so they could hear each other.

2331
04:43:33,520 --> 04:43:39,300
Back and forth is a successful radio exchange just from handheld and tell the radio, so it's

2332
04:43:39,300 --> 04:43:48,080
pretty cool to see it working. I met on the county communications team did met with California

2333
04:43:48,500 --> 04:43:55,740
the OES Public Safety Communications teams back on the 30th of October with several requests,

2334
04:43:57,220 --> 04:44:00,300
they have some new staff who are responsible for customer relations,

2335
04:44:00,820 --> 04:44:04,380
so it's good to make acquaintance with the new staff, bring them up this feed on

2336
04:44:04,380 --> 04:44:08,800
where we're at with the project and what needs to happen from Mono County's perspective.

2337
04:44:09,780 --> 04:44:15,560
The key thing we were talking about was the way our dispatch channels are going to work on the

2338
04:44:15,560 --> 04:44:22,700
system and we're still in negotiations about that. They have some concerns about capacity on the

2339
04:44:22,700 --> 04:44:28,640
system and we have some concerns about availability and functionality for our first responders and

2340
04:44:28,640 --> 04:44:37,440
so we're kind of in negotiations on that. And then the other big point of conversation is the new jail

2341
04:44:37,440 --> 04:44:40,740
and the potential for a Chris site at the New Jail.

2342
04:44:42,020 --> 04:44:46,460
And so, we were discussing that and we'll have continued conversations

2343
04:44:46,460 --> 04:44:47,760
about how that's going to work.

2344
04:44:48,220 --> 04:44:52,820
But, we're at least starting that conversation with the Calo ES team.

2345
04:44:54,520 --> 04:44:59,740
Sticking with Calo ES, they have a public safety radio strategic.

2346
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:06,680
Planning committee, P-S-R-S-P-C and they use those initials because everyone knows what that means.

2347
04:45:08,860 --> 04:45:29,080
They have quarterly meetings discussing what the state of California is doing strategically for communications. They actually just had their meeting this morning to go over their agenda and large on it was the Chris radio system. So I attended the meeting, listened to what they had to say.

2348
04:45:29,080 --> 04:45:35,240
Monocounty was mentioned, and its status was discussed, I believe, as a gentleman from

2349
04:45:35,240 --> 04:45:40,020
fishing game, wanted to make sure you could communicate with Monocounty in our area.

2350
04:45:40,760 --> 04:45:46,900
And we're continuing to engage with the state at the highest levels and monitor what they're

2351
04:45:46,900 --> 04:45:50,680
doing and what they're thinking and what their challenges are.

2352
04:45:50,780 --> 04:45:54,300
They're facing at the statewide level and how that relates to Chris.

2353
04:45:54,300 --> 04:46:02,360
I also reached out to Nevada County, which is one of the other counties that is partnering

2354
04:46:02,360 --> 04:46:06,740
with Chris to use Chris as their public safety system.

2355
04:46:07,460 --> 04:46:14,680
And it was mostly just a relationship building and kind of collaborating on what efforts

2356
04:46:14,680 --> 04:46:20,740
we can at the county level work together to move these projects forward.

2357
04:46:20,740 --> 04:46:28,880
Nevada County's project is a little more ambitious than ours. They're actually looking for 18 total sites that they're trying to put in.

2358
04:46:29,740 --> 04:46:40,660
They were originally hoping to be live in the fall of 2025 and they're running into challenges on getting the sites online is just taking longer.

2359
04:46:40,660 --> 04:46:47,460
But they're still moving forward with the project and doing what they can to give their

2360
04:46:47,460 --> 04:46:50,720
new sites that they're working on purchasing online.

2361
04:46:53,610 --> 04:46:55,370
Let's see, just two more things and I'll shut up.

2362
04:46:56,270 --> 04:46:59,290
We completed dispatch.

2363
04:47:00,070 --> 04:47:05,730
We completed preparations for getting dispatch all fully online functioning on the Chris system.

2364
04:47:06,290 --> 04:47:11,210
I actually have it scheduled for tomorrow that we're putting in the updated dispatch

2365
04:47:11,210 --> 04:47:20,690
Councils with the Chris functionality configured, and so the dispatch will be 100% functional on the Chris system once that changes in place.

2366
04:47:21,270 --> 04:47:30,910
I'm also working with the dispatch staff and making sure that the recording of the dispatch channels for the Chris system is online and functioning the way that they want it to be.

2367
04:47:31,830 --> 04:47:37,290
And then last point, the vehicle installations were continuing to move forward with that.

2368
04:47:37,730 --> 04:47:42,230
Our next batch is going to begin on December 2nd.

2369
04:47:42,250 --> 04:47:46,310
And then not on my notes, but I understood that this morning there were some questions

2370
04:47:46,310 --> 04:47:51,290
about a serial electronics contract and how that related to Chris.

2371
04:47:51,570 --> 04:47:57,550
And I think there may be, I know, I think Mike was planning on addressing it, or I can

2372
04:47:57,550 --> 04:47:59,830
And answer questions if you have something specific.

2373
04:48:00,150 --> 04:48:01,290
Brought it up, literally to that topic.

2374
04:48:03,290 --> 04:48:04,470
Morning, Chairman, I was on the board.

2375
04:48:04,850 --> 04:48:11,710
To that item that Kirk just mentioned, this area electronics contract that was in front of you today is through fleets and public works.

2376
04:48:11,910 --> 04:48:16,430
And that's for their normal outfitting of vehicles, it's not related to the Chris installs.

2377
04:48:16,510 --> 04:48:19,570
So it's one is the Chris installs are a major project.

2378
04:48:20,090 --> 04:48:23,590
The other is their operational cost to bring a car into service.

2379
04:48:26,530 --> 04:48:28,150
Thank you for the clarification.

2380
04:48:29,210 --> 04:48:30,870
Sorry if I missed that in the report.

2381
04:48:31,530 --> 04:48:31,950
Not a problem.

2382
04:48:32,450 --> 04:48:32,730
Thank you.

2383
04:48:33,250 --> 04:48:34,430
Thank you very much, Kirk.

2384
04:48:34,630 --> 04:48:35,930
Thank you, Mike, for being here.

2385
04:48:36,670 --> 04:48:38,890
We'll go ahead and give an action.

2386
04:48:38,990 --> 04:48:41,410
Yeah, there's an action item on the contract.

2387
04:48:42,250 --> 04:48:44,790
So let's go ahead and clean that up then.

2388
04:48:45,950 --> 04:48:46,830
Yes, please.

2389
04:48:47,190 --> 04:48:47,910
Before we go to that.

2390
04:48:49,090 --> 04:48:51,890
Kirk, what department in Nevada County

2391
04:48:51,890 --> 04:49:01,290
is overseeing Chris in Nevada County, it's going to be their law enforcement agency and I was

2392
04:49:01,290 --> 04:49:06,950
speaking to a captain in their sheriff's department. I believe he's actually over their

2393
04:49:06,950 --> 04:49:14,370
their jail division at this point in time but he's been moved around in Chris was his project when

2394
04:49:14,370 --> 04:49:20,750
he started and so he's continued to keep that but it would be Nevada County sheriff's department

2395
04:49:22,750 --> 04:49:25,270
I'm not the fire, not the fire districts.

2396
04:49:27,010 --> 04:49:32,910
No, I don't believe the fire, just the law enforcement, so the police department,

2397
04:49:33,090 --> 04:49:36,930
and the local police departments in the county and the sheriff.

2398
04:49:37,570 --> 04:49:41,210
You know what role IT has in the project in Nevada County?

2399
04:49:43,700 --> 04:49:48,060
It sounded like the sheriff's department was championing it. That's the gentleman I spoke with.

2400
04:49:48,060 --> 04:49:52,860
I don't know all the other departments that are involved, but I know he has done some

2401
04:49:52,860 --> 04:49:53,480
work with IT.

2402
04:49:54,480 --> 04:49:55,340
Thanks.

2403
04:49:56,420 --> 04:49:58,880
This is a contract with

2404
04:49:58,880 --> 04:49:59,820
very

2405
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:00,460
Enter prizes.

2406
04:50:08,810 --> 04:50:31,630
Okay, so we don't need to do that. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's move on then to the, sorry. We're to see preparedness update, which we have on the agenda every week meeting. And so today, obviously, there's a different tone to it, given the experience over the last week. So, um,

2407
04:50:32,750 --> 04:50:35,310
So who would you like to open this topic?

2408
04:50:36,190 --> 04:50:40,930
Yes, we briefly mentioned it during my department head or CAO report.

2409
04:50:41,750 --> 04:50:45,750
Obviously, we are so thankful to our partners who have stepped up to help us with this.

2410
04:50:46,350 --> 04:50:50,850
So we've invited the incident management team, staff from there to talk about the fire,

2411
04:50:51,130 --> 04:50:55,170
basically kind of how it started or not how it started, but kind of where it started in the progress.

2412
04:50:55,930 --> 04:50:59,990
And then we also have the sheriff to provide comments and then the local log file as well.

2413
04:50:59,990 --> 04:51:05,550
So I'll hand it over to the incident commander or incident management team to maybe start the discussion.

2414
04:51:14,830 --> 04:51:16,310
Thank you all for being here also.

2415
04:51:38,350 --> 04:51:42,610
You guys got me now. All right. Well anyway, so once again, good afternoon. Thanks for having me here.

2416
04:51:43,210 --> 04:51:46,490
Name's Jason Wingard. I'm the work for the International Forest

2417
04:51:47,530 --> 04:51:52,410
here out of the Manflakes Ranger District where I'm the District Fire Management Officer.

2418
04:51:52,410 --> 04:52:06,250
I was the initial incident commander of the PAC incident and then transferred into the PAC incident management team as one of the unified incident commanders.

2419
04:52:08,980 --> 04:52:12,080
Good afternoon board, my name is Todd Hopkins.

2420
04:52:12,940 --> 04:52:18,960
I am the incident commander for the Riverside County all hazard and incident management team.

2421
04:52:18,960 --> 04:52:27,660
We were brought up here from Chief Littlefield from the San Bernardino Cal Fire Unit as a request

2422
04:52:27,660 --> 04:52:30,660
to come help and manage this incident.

2423
04:52:31,340 --> 04:52:37,800
So we brought in Unified Command with our Forest Service Agency and then also BLM and

2424
04:52:37,800 --> 04:52:41,860
our Sheriff's as the Unified IECs for the incident.

2425
04:52:42,660 --> 04:52:47,220
What I'll do is we have what we have going on the fire right now, I just passed out to you

2426
04:52:47,220 --> 04:52:54,360
and it's in fact sheet and I'll just quickly go through that so currently the

2427
04:52:54,360 --> 04:53:00,960
fire is at 1,974 acres and we have it at 83% contained. We're expecting full

2428
04:53:00,960 --> 04:53:06,240
containment by November 21st although we are having some issues with the

2429
04:53:06,240 --> 04:53:12,060
recent snowfall of getting the full containment on the fire but the snowfall

2430
04:53:12,060 --> 04:53:19,340
is that me obviously helping with with some of that. Structures destroyed is still at 31 structures

2431
04:53:19,340 --> 04:53:27,540
we did and five of them damaged. That 31 as far as structures it's is 30 of the homes and the

2432
04:53:27,540 --> 04:53:33,300
one extra that is on there is the large water tank that was up there that we had identified as a

2433
04:53:33,300 --> 04:53:40,560
structure. All of our evacuations have been lifted so all the evacuation warnings and orders have

2434
04:53:40,560 --> 04:53:46,260
been dropped in the area, which took away also all the traffic control points that are

2435
04:53:46,260 --> 04:53:46,520
on there.

2436
04:53:47,080 --> 04:53:52,280
Although there is a Monocanny Health and Human Services Public Health Division, did

2437
04:53:52,280 --> 04:53:55,720
you clear a local health emergency due to the hazardous conditions in the fire area, and

2438
04:53:55,720 --> 04:54:02,480
that's the potential hazmat areas of the homes that have burned down and until they get

2439
04:54:02,480 --> 04:54:05,320
someone in there to take a look at that, it's not safe for the residents.

2440
04:54:07,440 --> 04:54:13,360
Currently, the instant management team will go out of Unified Command tonight, Cal Fire

2441
04:54:13,360 --> 04:54:18,900
and the Forest Service at 1800 tonight, and the instant management team will be leaving

2442
04:54:18,900 --> 04:54:20,820
and it will be turned back over to the local units.

2443
04:54:21,500 --> 04:54:26,080
So just because the instant management team is leaving, this is what happens on every incident.

2444
04:54:26,480 --> 04:54:30,720
We turn it back to either the local forest or the local unit, and then they will still have

2445
04:54:30,720 --> 04:54:36,600
resources that are going to be going out and finishing up what needs to be finished.

2446
04:54:39,280 --> 04:54:42,340
As far as evacuation centers, all the evacuation centers have been closed.

2447
04:54:43,160 --> 04:54:46,900
All animal evacuations, evacuation centers have also be closed.

2448
04:54:47,680 --> 04:54:54,160
And as of today, we have, today, 423 personnel that are still on the incident.

2449
04:54:54,380 --> 04:54:58,800
Many of them are, what we call them, the demob process, so they're going through their process

2450
04:54:58,800 --> 04:54:59,660
of skin and older equipment.

2451
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:29,400
And then they'll be heading home either sometime today, and then like I said, some of us tomorrow. You also see at the bottom of the sheet, who all the cooperating agencies are on there. And we would like to recognize and thank Long Valley. Far Department, they were in Unified Command with us initially, and then became an agency rep during that second day, but it's been great working with their local fire district, as well as all the other volunteers or volunteer organizations that were around during the initial attack.

2452
04:55:29,400 --> 04:55:37,120
If the fire would like to recognize all their tremendous help that they did during this firefight and then also the career firefighters that or

2453
04:55:37,120 --> 04:55:42,300
paid staff that were up here, the Forest Service, BLM and Cal Fire and other local governments.

2454
04:55:42,660 --> 04:55:46,540
So thank you for this time and if you have any questions, we can show for you.

2455
04:55:51,030 --> 04:55:52,350
Questions, comments?

2456
04:55:55,100 --> 04:55:59,240
Yeah, just a further update coming from the Forest Service.

2457
04:55:59,240 --> 04:56:04,720
I talked about all the evacuation warnings in the orders have been lifted.

2458
04:56:05,060 --> 04:56:15,780
Now if there still is a forest order that went through with a fire area closure just on the south of south side of the incident on the Forest Service Land,

2459
04:56:16,360 --> 04:56:19,660
that closure should stay in place through the majority of the wind up.

2460
04:56:24,700 --> 04:56:28,020
Thank you. Just a couple of questions they may not be for you.

2461
04:56:28,020 --> 04:56:34,800
I understand that, but at this point, where who is heading up the investigation of the cause?

2462
04:56:35,580 --> 04:56:37,880
If it's not, what do you guys?

2463
04:56:38,140 --> 04:56:40,900
By the United States for sources, heading up the investigation.

2464
04:56:41,100 --> 04:56:47,380
There are multiple investigators working on that, and it's still ongoing.

2465
04:56:48,700 --> 04:56:49,000
Thank you.

2466
04:56:54,080 --> 04:56:55,320
I could probably comment on this.

2467
04:57:01,070 --> 04:57:03,150
There are no hands raised on Zoom at this time.

2468
04:57:03,950 --> 04:57:05,670
There are hands raised, or there are not.

2469
04:57:05,670 --> 04:57:06,670
Thank you.

2470
04:57:07,070 --> 04:57:07,890
Thank you.

2471
04:57:08,190 --> 04:57:08,810
Thank you very much.

2472
04:57:09,090 --> 04:57:09,270
Appreciate it.

2473
04:57:13,260 --> 04:57:15,660
Could we ask to speak now?

2474
04:57:28,920 --> 04:57:29,640
I have a few minutes for it.

2475
04:57:29,840 --> 04:57:30,480
Sheriff Amber Braun.

2476
04:57:31,740 --> 04:57:38,000
In the absence of Christmaw Cross that I believe is ill today, I am, I statue the acting director

2477
04:57:38,000 --> 04:57:39,120
of emergency management.

2478
04:57:39,980 --> 04:57:44,600
So I am woefully unprepared to answer questions as to what he did.

2479
04:57:45,220 --> 04:57:49,440
But I can talk about what the sheriff's office did and the response that we had in dispatch

2480
04:57:49,440 --> 04:57:53,380
and how that all took place.

2481
04:57:53,640 --> 04:57:55,660
It was a very fast moving fire.

2482
04:57:55,860 --> 04:57:58,020
I think you actually have chief McWire comes up here with me.

2483
04:57:58,040 --> 04:58:00,140
He can probably explain more about the fire behavior.

2484
04:58:00,620 --> 04:58:03,500
He was on scene and directed many and resources.

2485
04:58:04,760 --> 04:58:05,720
Scott, why don't you go ahead?

2486
04:58:07,060 --> 04:58:10,080
The fire was originally noticed by residents in the area.

2487
04:58:10,660 --> 04:58:13,520
They communicated out to the fire district and notified 911

2488
04:58:14,220 --> 04:58:16,740
from the time that the fire districts were notified

2489
04:58:16,740 --> 04:58:19,040
until we were up in the canyon along with law enforcement

2490
04:58:19,040 --> 04:58:25,320
and the Forest Service Agents over there approximately 10 minutes evacuations began right off the bat.

2491
04:58:25,660 --> 04:58:32,240
As we saw that the fire was moving into the campground, the CHP officers that heard the call initiated evacuations on their own.

2492
04:58:32,380 --> 04:58:38,120
They were joined by Sheriff that quickly went through the midi area, that then escalated to a region wide evacuation.

2493
04:58:38,940 --> 04:58:41,040
At that point in time, other resources have been called.

2494
04:58:41,640 --> 04:58:48,540
Forest Service Cal Fire, other voluntary agencies coming in, the fire had moved from the canyon up above where the campground was

2495
04:58:48,540 --> 04:58:54,240
into the Greek, I'd estimate, winds were north of 50 miles an hour. At that point in time,

2496
04:58:54,240 --> 04:58:59,680
the decision was made to focus on structural protection in the McGee area. Under

2497
04:59:01,140 --> 04:59:06,840
Forest Services Command, the Cal Fire teams ended up taking over the structural protection group,

2498
04:59:07,060 --> 04:59:12,060
which was then split into a couple of groups to focus on. In fact, the American way,

2499
04:59:12,060 --> 04:59:23,800
A McGee Road in Gregory was pretty obvious within moments that the firestorm that was coming through was not going to be something that was defensible or that anyone was going to be able to stand.

2500
04:59:24,840 --> 04:59:34,400
So some units were able to remain in pockets but most units moved outside of that initial wave of fire that came through and returned to attack the fire.

2501
04:59:34,400 --> 04:59:41,740
I had estimated that time that probably 70% of the community of McGee was fully engulfed.

2502
04:59:44,300 --> 04:59:49,020
And then over the next couple of hours, the focus was really on, you know, the fire

2503
04:59:49,020 --> 04:59:49,740
front that was moving.

2504
04:59:50,060 --> 04:59:54,580
I was in McGee at that point in time, but other agencies went and took care of defending

2505
04:59:54,580 --> 04:59:56,300
Long Valley as the fire moved that direction.

2506
04:59:56,300 --> 04:59:59,960
and we had a practice that set up down by the campground where there was a-

2507
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:13,260
There's a natural road break in case the wind shifts and start to move it towards Crowley. And the focus was really on trying to see what we could save in the McGee area. At this point in time there are six homes that are standing, of which I believe only three are habitable.

2508
05:00:18,850 --> 05:00:34,670
Could you details some of the surrounding area came in to assist by districts? Pretty remarkable response. I think everything in Mono County, every fire district, every special it was remarkable.

2509
05:00:34,670 --> 05:00:40,390
were showing, same with INIO, I know that I saw an INIO task force that came through

2510
05:00:40,390 --> 05:00:43,330
and we saw, I saw a bishop, I saw a big pine, an independent Sloan pine.

2511
05:00:44,470 --> 05:00:49,690
They were instrumental, I believe, in the protection of a Long Valley and the community in Long

2512
05:00:49,690 --> 05:00:49,970
Valley.

2513
05:00:50,450 --> 05:00:56,130
But I don't, you have to mind, I don't think there was a single fire district in Anywhere

2514
05:00:56,130 --> 05:00:58,070
Mono County that did not arrive.

2515
05:01:00,250 --> 05:01:04,650
In those situations, timing is a little tricky, but I remember being cognizant

2516
05:01:04,650 --> 05:01:10,430
sent of seeing a lone pi engine coming through and thinking there was no way it could have been

2517
05:01:10,430 --> 05:01:15,530
an hour and a half since they got paged out. So they either flew through time or time stopped,

2518
05:01:15,750 --> 05:01:23,230
but really grateful for the incredible resources it showed up. And also I think it's worth the way

2519
05:01:23,230 --> 05:01:27,710
the Forest Service Cal Fire, I think when incident came in, when Unified first came up, there was a

2520
05:01:27,710 --> 05:01:31,150
talk that they can be able to, it's a unified command, it's not a Forest Service response,

2521
05:01:34,630 --> 05:01:34,630
not a

2522
05:01:34,630 --> 05:01:37,530
as the different agencies everyone work together really quickly.

2523
05:01:38,690 --> 05:01:42,290
It was, that was a really good showing for a pretty miserable outcome.

2524
05:01:52,290 --> 05:01:56,350
The only thing I want to ask is that just the tremendous debt of gratitude to the Sheriff's Department and

2525
05:01:56,350 --> 05:02:00,650
the law enforcement officers and the ability to community to help each other.

2526
05:02:01,290 --> 05:02:05,030
The fact that we had no loss of life with the speed at which that fire entered that community.

2527
05:02:05,930 --> 05:02:11,350
People with hearing issues, people with transportation issues, people that were not inside their homes and

2528
05:02:11,350 --> 05:02:15,830
phone drain, it's really remarkable and I think it's really a testament to law enforcement

2529
05:02:15,830 --> 05:02:19,130
and how diligent they were trying to get everybody out there that we had no loss of life.

2530
05:02:23,260 --> 05:02:24,100
Thank you.

2531
05:02:24,460 --> 05:02:31,040
We heard some public comment this morning about communications and notifications that they

2532
05:02:31,040 --> 05:02:33,200
were at best inconsistent.

2533
05:02:33,300 --> 05:02:40,660
I did experience the very same thing that I particularly got mornings on both of my phones, was signed

2534
05:02:40,660 --> 05:02:46,480
up for systems my husband was as well and did not get any warnings so and we're hearing

2535
05:02:46,480 --> 05:02:53,920
that so we are addressing the communication gaps and figuring out where it was also the

2536
05:02:53,920 --> 05:02:58,240
systems that it was brought to our attention at one of the meetings and I believe most

2537
05:02:58,240 --> 05:03:04,720
of this representatives were there that the systems that we're using now the change from

2538
05:03:04,720 --> 05:03:34,120
code red to genesis and systems rely on electricity and cell phone services operating and this is a particular area where they don't operate normally with no emergency so that's something that I'm really looking for opportunities for redundancies and how to notify when everything is down and that's in these particular areas that we're finding is the very same thing.

2539
05:03:34,120 --> 05:03:42,240
So, we know about communication, is there something else that we should be looking at immediately to address,

2540
05:03:42,740 --> 05:03:47,040
to have a favorable outcome in the future?

2541
05:03:47,580 --> 05:03:54,040
If you're talking about the initial communication, I am no stranger to coming to you to complain about county technology.

2542
05:03:55,140 --> 05:04:00,820
I would say that the concerns you have there are probably less about batteries and

2543
05:04:00,820 --> 05:04:04,980
cell phones and more about the implementation of that system and how it's deployed and how

2544
05:04:04,980 --> 05:04:05,840
the community is educated.

2545
05:04:06,480 --> 05:04:11,380
So I think if you're going to try and fix it, focus there first, I don't think there

2546
05:04:11,380 --> 05:04:13,740
was a technology challenge on the outside of that.

2547
05:04:14,560 --> 05:04:19,400
On the other side of communication, what I would ask in the future is that I know we have

2548
05:04:19,400 --> 05:04:24,920
a lack meeting, I think it's rather appropriately titled, coming up on Friday.

2549
05:04:25,760 --> 05:04:29,820
When we have instances like this, I know Supervisor McFarland's gone through this with the

2550
05:04:29,820 --> 05:04:37,740
in fire, and however this moves forward, there needs to be a plan that says, who does what

2551
05:04:37,740 --> 05:04:45,580
when within the first 24 hours, 72 hours, seven days, 30 days, and I think that the community

2552
05:04:45,580 --> 05:04:49,660
would really appreciate if there's an incident that happens. There's just a dashboard that says,

2553
05:04:49,960 --> 05:04:55,440
this is what you can expect in 24 hours. And then people aren't expecting fire reports in 24 hours,

2554
05:04:55,440 --> 05:04:59,860
because the first fire report won't come for 72 so then no one's asking for it and I think

2555
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:29,980
The more we have a response that has really clear expectations of, this is what we're going to do when. It allows people to march towards that and deliverable, and it's going to help the community understand. This is when it's going to happen, right? So, I think most of us in this space would know that you're probably not going to get real clarity on state funding for cleanups for at least seven days. So if you know that, then no one has to wonder if that it says, you expect that in seven to 21 days. So moving forward, I think a good learning lesson for us after we're

2556
05:05:29,980 --> 05:05:34,760
words, but how do we just tell people not only what they need to know now, but an expectation

2557
05:05:34,760 --> 05:05:42,220
of when they should get it so that we don't have questions coming up of the lack of communication

2558
05:05:42,220 --> 05:05:42,980
breeds contempt.

2559
05:05:43,260 --> 05:05:47,260
Some of you have seen that from me, but I think the more that you can create a way for people

2560
05:05:47,260 --> 05:05:48,160
to easily see it.

2561
05:05:49,220 --> 05:05:53,400
I think a lot of people aren't familiar with the ready.monocyte, and I think the utilization

2562
05:05:53,400 --> 05:05:59,000
of the ready monocyte with links to their places works, but the communication without being

2563
05:05:59,000 --> 05:06:01,840
the resource more and more, if that's going to be the county's direction, just needs

2564
05:06:01,840 --> 05:06:02,560
to be better managed.

2565
05:06:03,740 --> 05:06:04,320
Thank you.

2566
05:06:04,600 --> 05:06:09,420
If I may, from the sheriff's office perspective, this is a lesson learned for us and also

2567
05:06:09,420 --> 05:06:13,680
learned during the infire that, really, the genesis notification was in the hands of one

2568
05:06:13,680 --> 05:06:18,440
person, and when the infire broke out, that one person was on vacation, scheduled vacation

2569
05:06:18,440 --> 05:06:19,860
and I was notified to being charged.

2570
05:06:20,400 --> 05:06:26,400
I wasn't in my office at my desk in the afternoon when that broke out, so I had to hurry home

2571
05:06:26,400 --> 05:06:27,820
and figure out how to use genesis.

2572
05:06:27,820 --> 05:06:33,120
we need to build redundancies in and have that come back to the sheriff's office where we always

2573
05:06:33,120 --> 05:06:38,040
have somebody there, we're dispatches there and then they can get that out and say we need this

2574
05:06:38,040 --> 05:06:43,020
to be our boundaries and have a better understanding of how genesis works because when we transitioned

2575
05:06:43,020 --> 05:06:47,500
from emergency management being an ancillary duty in the sheriff's office to being a fully funded

2576
05:06:47,500 --> 05:06:53,900
position as it should be, we lost a lot of that knowledge in the sheriff's office and we also

2577
05:06:53,900 --> 05:06:59,240
transition from code red to genesis at the same time. So, Sheriff's Office, we don't really know how

2578
05:06:59,240 --> 05:07:04,500
to use genesis as well as we should. We're part of the planning of breaking out the different

2579
05:07:04,500 --> 05:07:09,720
locations, but how do we break up the, so that was a learning lesson for me when I had to do it.

2580
05:07:09,840 --> 05:07:13,780
Like, how do I break this into two different, because I don't want this whole big thing to be in

2581
05:07:13,780 --> 05:07:22,180
evacuation. So, there's a lot of lessons for us to learn on this one, and I'm going to ask or

2582
05:07:22,180 --> 05:07:31,480
Let's take it back to the Sheriff's Office and have Genesis come back into the Sheriff's Office and be one of our functions when we go into an emergency situation.

2583
05:07:31,740 --> 05:07:37,080
They are feeling far between for us, fortunately, in Mono County that we don't have this all day every day.

2584
05:07:37,840 --> 05:07:42,800
But when it does happen, we need to be prepared for it and that's something we will be.

2585
05:07:44,460 --> 05:08:12,620
I know the Dilma from Cal Fire wanted to join, just one comment, I think the opportunity for us here, the unified command that was here, one of them was an instant commander at the Infire, one was at the Palisade's Fire, they had offered during this incident to connect us with the emergency management in other counties, I don't believe that connection happened, but I think going forward a real opportunity for us to go through and go to Ventura County, go to Santa Barbara County, go to the place that had done this and said, okay, what is the best

2586
05:08:12,620 --> 05:08:17,240
practice. We don't need to reinvent the wheel here. There are other counties that have gone through

2587
05:08:17,240 --> 05:08:21,060
this over and over again, and there's an opportunity for us to be able to go learn from them.

2588
05:08:21,660 --> 05:08:27,000
I appreciate that we don't do it very often, but we have had a handful of county-wide

2589
05:08:27,000 --> 05:08:33,720
disruptive events in the last few years, and with things in climate, with the amount of traffic

2590
05:08:33,720 --> 05:08:39,640
coming through here, the likelihood that this is going to happen again is just a matter of when.

2591
05:08:40,580 --> 05:08:45,460
I was reminded that when I first moved into McGee 17 years ago that my first paranoia was

2592
05:08:45,920 --> 05:08:49,660
Talking long before I was in the fire service that some day we were going to have a fire up in that canyon

2593
05:08:49,660 --> 05:08:54,640
It was going to blow down that canyon. I think there are a lot of places around this camp county where people look around say

2594
05:08:54,640 --> 05:08:59,460
This is the thing I'm scared of are we prepared for it and we just need to start chipping away at those with good systems

2595
05:08:59,460 --> 05:09:00,180
So

2596
05:09:05,170 --> 05:09:08,250
I'm going to speak about something else about how you can get prepared

2597
05:09:08,890 --> 05:09:12,270
One of the big pushes nowadays is community risk reduction

2598
05:09:12,270 --> 05:09:20,210
So things like becoming a fire wise community where the communities can go on fire wise, USA, they can sign up for that.

2599
05:09:20,470 --> 05:09:24,130
They can go to the Cal Fire site with our community risk reduction.

2600
05:09:24,270 --> 05:09:33,030
And there's things at the homeowners and the communities can do to prepare themselves to make them a more resilient to wildland fires.

2601
05:09:33,610 --> 05:09:39,430
So I would encourage that type of information gets pushed to the different communities.

2602
05:09:39,430 --> 05:09:57,590
and I don't know if you have someone up there, but I'm sure that they can reach out to the BDU unit and if they need guidance on where to gather that information, they can point them in the right direction and help them out for that.

2603
05:09:57,590 --> 05:09:59,690
We do have a very...

2604
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:29,860
We have a group of us, well, well, far prepared community, but also, I think to your point, is working with our other agencies, like BLM, Department of DWP because it's not all of our land and access to that, and things, to keeping up with things after the winter of 23. We've just seen an explosion of agitation and we're taking care of these communities, a lot of fire

2605
05:10:29,860 --> 05:10:37,420
our wise communities are now deploying, but our neighbor, which is a federal or state

2606
05:10:37,420 --> 05:10:45,180
agency are not, and this requires that so we'll probably be reaching out to look for some

2607
05:10:45,180 --> 05:10:51,900
context, for some support to get in there and help us protect not only our personal assets

2608
05:10:51,900 --> 05:10:59,800
and businesses, but their asset as well because we are the keeper of so many of the resources

2609
05:10:59,800 --> 05:11:07,100
that support are the rest of the community, Southern California, the water, and things there.

2610
05:11:07,380 --> 05:11:09,180
So, working together is, sir.

2611
05:11:09,820 --> 05:11:16,360
100% and I know we have deputy chief John Tune who is the agency administrator from San Bernardino.

2612
05:11:16,600 --> 05:11:21,440
And I keep saying San Bernardino Cal Fire, but it is the San Bernardino and Yamono units.

2613
05:11:21,720 --> 05:11:25,460
So, it's not just San Bernardino County right down there.

2614
05:11:25,460 --> 05:11:32,020
So, I know a chief little field, you know, would also support having a, you know,

2615
05:11:32,280 --> 05:11:37,160
winnating help that you all needed to get information on different things.

2616
05:11:37,400 --> 05:11:38,960
So, please reach out if you need something.

2617
05:11:39,680 --> 05:11:39,960
Thank you.

2618
05:11:40,580 --> 05:11:42,260
Yeah, thank you very much.

2619
05:11:42,360 --> 05:11:49,320
I think we also do need to acknowledge that there are some fires that particularly win driven

2620
05:11:49,320 --> 05:11:54,720
with this topography that no amount of fuel's reduction is going to potentially change an outcome.

2621
05:11:55,460 --> 05:11:58,780
You look at aerial photos of where this fire occurred.

2622
05:11:59,340 --> 05:12:01,680
There were a number of fuel reduction projects

2623
05:12:01,680 --> 05:12:06,960
that have been put in place years ago, both on McGee Creek

2624
05:12:06,960 --> 05:12:10,740
itself by the BLM as well as linear fuel breaks around

2625
05:12:10,740 --> 05:12:11,220
places.

2626
05:12:12,420 --> 05:12:15,680
And so we don't need one strategy.

2627
05:12:15,840 --> 05:12:16,580
We need many.

2628
05:12:17,200 --> 05:12:21,640
But one of the strategies we keep dropping is a minute

2629
05:12:21,640 --> 05:12:24,780
that after the fire starts, what are we doing?

2630
05:12:25,620 --> 05:12:27,900
We need that playbook that we can pick up

2631
05:12:27,900 --> 05:12:29,760
toward everyone knows their role

2632
05:12:30,220 --> 05:12:33,220
and that the community is not waiting to be informed,

2633
05:12:33,360 --> 05:12:36,560
that we, all of us, the collective we

2634
05:12:36,560 --> 05:12:37,800
that are working on these things,

2635
05:12:38,040 --> 05:12:40,820
are reaching directly out to them

2636
05:12:40,820 --> 05:12:42,820
so that they know when they're gonna find out,

2637
05:12:42,940 --> 05:12:45,180
what's the timeline gonna be when you're gonna find out

2638
05:12:45,180 --> 05:12:46,200
if you can go back to your home?

2639
05:12:46,640 --> 05:12:48,740
Who do you call to test your well?

2640
05:12:48,740 --> 05:12:55,240
You know, that all of those things are happening, and we shrink the time to as small as possible,

2641
05:12:55,240 --> 05:13:02,320
where we are lifting up and wrapping around people who are impacted immediately, so they

2642
05:13:02,320 --> 05:13:03,320
know where to go.

2643
05:13:04,060 --> 05:13:09,020
Yes, these don't happen every day, but they happen often enough that we need to be good at

2644
05:13:09,020 --> 05:13:09,360
it.

2645
05:13:09,640 --> 05:13:14,580
This is something that we should hit a home run on every time, as local government.

2646
05:13:14,580 --> 05:13:22,320
And I believe we can because we have super strong communities that know one another and

2647
05:13:22,320 --> 05:13:23,880
immediately care for one another.

2648
05:13:25,200 --> 05:13:30,340
I know there's been a lot of frustration expressed outside this room a lot of it hasn't

2649
05:13:30,340 --> 05:13:31,000
come forward.

2650
05:13:32,500 --> 05:13:38,160
I think that it's okay for people to express their frustration but let's ensure that as we

2651
05:13:38,160 --> 05:13:42,580
move through these next steps we're looking at how are we going to get better.

2652
05:13:42,580 --> 05:13:48,300
what are we going to do? You know, you mentioned that I live through the

2653
05:13:48,300 --> 05:13:52,640
infire a lot of this feels like Groundhog Day, feeling exceedingly alone,

2654
05:13:52,840 --> 05:13:56,860
making stuff up as you're going, things you expected to be in place, not being

2655
05:13:56,860 --> 05:13:57,220
there.

2656
05:14:00,240 --> 05:14:04,720
To folks who are watching online, to folks that have lived through that, many of

2657
05:14:04,720 --> 05:14:11,360
us have lived through this as well. And I want to express my heartfelt empathy but

2658
05:14:11,360 --> 05:14:19,260
But also an apology that we don't have all those tools in place yet and how are we going

2659
05:14:19,260 --> 05:14:19,840
to get there.

2660
05:14:19,940 --> 05:14:22,460
We can't be having this conversation again.

2661
05:14:23,680 --> 05:14:25,540
So thank you for bringing that forward.

2662
05:14:26,140 --> 05:14:27,300
Thank you guys for being here.

2663
05:14:27,520 --> 05:14:31,480
Everybody always comes forward with so much help and something like this happens.

2664
05:14:32,080 --> 05:14:37,160
One of the things we need to do after this event is remember that we don't need to come together

2665
05:14:37,160 --> 05:14:42,540
during just because of one of these events, we need to do this all the time as our

2666
05:14:42,540 --> 05:14:49,760
normal way of being a Mono County community. And so we can do that, we show at

2667
05:14:49,760 --> 05:14:56,860
time and time again, get these things in place for our community safe and

2668
05:14:56,860 --> 05:14:59,080
hold, get people back in, don't.

2669
05:15:00,370 --> 05:15:00,790
Thank you, Paul.

2670
05:15:03,240 --> 05:15:03,580
Yes.

2671
05:15:06,320 --> 05:15:08,220
Just curious.

2672
05:15:10,640 --> 05:15:34,770
So, is this event that could be an FMAG declaration of an FMAG, and if is or why it isn't, I've been on different incidents over the years and heard. You know, you've got to get it, you know, get this to play like. And what role we submitted the paperwork for the FMAG on Thursday night? And it was, and it was tonight. Like hello, yes.

2673
05:15:34,770 --> 05:15:40,210
So but that application went in while the event was still active actually the application was submitted

2674
05:15:40,210 --> 05:15:49,610
I believe before unified command even came into place. We found out this tonight, you know why, size and scale dollars dollars and size and scales for my understanding.

2675
05:15:50,970 --> 05:15:56,490
You know the mountain view fire happened almost identical time of year, same.

2676
05:15:59,010 --> 05:16:05,010
I just name exact time, there was a fire happening in Reno, a small neighborhood with very expensive

2677
05:16:05,010 --> 05:16:11,270
homes that got enough mag, but it really impacts, I mean, I'm preaching fire here about

2678
05:16:11,270 --> 05:16:17,830
this, but the recovery and all of that, but I'd really like to know later, like maybe Sharebron

2679
05:16:17,830 --> 05:16:25,010
or Chris McCrassa can get us the reasons because, is it because that sort of amount of money

2680
05:16:25,010 --> 05:16:31,810
It's already been allocated through Cal OES, or it's a mystery to me still why not.

2681
05:16:33,110 --> 05:16:40,170
And then how are you guys going to recoup, lost equipment, different things that FMAGs would provide for

2682
05:16:40,170 --> 05:16:53,610
for prior districts that came on to, like how are we getting made to hold out of the best ability to be made to hold without an FMAG?

2683
05:16:53,610 --> 05:16:55,830
I call it yes, at that time we'll tell.

2684
05:16:56,550 --> 05:16:58,810
And I will do research on that.

2685
05:16:59,130 --> 05:17:03,210
I do, it's my understanding that it would be better.

2686
05:17:03,630 --> 05:17:05,750
Maybe we talked a little bit just like to heard about this.

2687
05:17:05,970 --> 05:17:09,290
If it were presented to widespread, because to scale,

2688
05:17:09,670 --> 05:17:13,030
this is a palisate fire, to scale.

2689
05:17:13,310 --> 05:17:16,290
To our population and the amount that was lost to scale

2690
05:17:16,290 --> 05:17:17,950
is the equivalent of a palisate fire.

2691
05:17:18,630 --> 05:17:21,910
But to be encounters, it's not.

2692
05:17:22,550 --> 05:17:26,570
because there are only counting so many beans, we only have 30 beans here and we have thousands of

2693
05:17:26,570 --> 05:17:32,710
beans over here. So, and maybe that's an argument that we make or we fight for that, for that change to

2694
05:17:32,710 --> 05:17:38,470
come about, that it needs to be to scale to the population. We are a big county with very few people,

2695
05:17:38,630 --> 05:17:43,870
so when we lose this much, we only have so many people, it's huge. This is a policy inspire from

2696
05:17:43,870 --> 05:17:48,730
Mono County, but how do we get them to see that? And so that's that's something that we need to follow

2697
05:17:48,730 --> 05:17:57,770
on and see if there's a way to change that. I don't know if there's a way to change it because it is street up being counting position.

2698
05:17:58,510 --> 05:18:00,070
It's just a handful of beans.

2699
05:18:00,630 --> 05:18:02,010
Five years, nothing's changed.

2700
05:18:02,950 --> 05:18:04,170
I don't, I don't, and I

2701
05:18:04,670 --> 05:18:05,490
Longer than that.

2702
05:18:05,870 --> 05:18:06,550
Yeah, it's the amount.

2703
05:18:06,850 --> 05:18:08,690
Yeah, and I don't know that it will change forever.

2704
05:18:08,690 --> 05:18:14,890
However, yeah, Fred can love there's something we can do politically like legislatively.

2705
05:18:15,530 --> 05:18:21,850
I think it's good to have as much information about why is we have to know because I've

2706
05:18:21,850 --> 05:18:27,150
already missed two calls for Madame shift and he's asking me what do you need I need to

2707
05:18:27,150 --> 05:18:27,850
know what he means.

2708
05:18:28,250 --> 05:18:36,130
It's not your job to figure out how to fix that that's actually what we can do but we have

2709
05:18:36,130 --> 05:18:41,210
have the communication and know that you've been denied because my question is is this big

2710
05:18:41,210 --> 05:18:47,370
enough to get that finding out it's not but you are absolutely right this is a significant

2711
05:18:47,370 --> 05:18:56,310
amount of our community that was affected so please reach out and we will coordinate in making

2712
05:18:56,310 --> 05:19:05,590
sure that if there's a will to get reimbursement that we will get it and we won't stop because I

2713
05:19:05,590 --> 05:19:10,890
I can't, I no longer will just tell my community we're working on it.

2714
05:19:11,230 --> 05:19:15,430
I want to get it done before somebody, it's hurt.

2715
05:19:15,910 --> 05:19:19,190
Again, and we lose, and it can't catastrophic, because it's a matter of time.

2716
05:19:20,770 --> 05:19:21,370
2015,

2717
05:19:23,820 --> 05:19:27,140
FMAG was submitted for the roundfire, was denied.

2718
05:19:28,220 --> 05:19:32,600
There were fires earlier than that, particularly in and around the world basin.

2719
05:19:33,340 --> 05:19:35,620
FMAGs were submitted, and we were denied.

2720
05:19:35,620 --> 05:19:45,300
It was always the same reason that Scott expressed the idea of scaling it to the population

2721
05:19:45,300 --> 05:19:49,620
and the values is something to advocate for.

2722
05:19:50,740 --> 05:19:59,980
And I know going back to Chief Harper and the fire in I had many discussions back then.

2723
05:20:01,710 --> 05:20:30,490
The administration is involved, and the uniqueness of a county such as this volunteer entities that exist within it, and the limits of the resource capacity of each of those entities, which directly relates to the ability to respond to this stuff, and I did want to say a complete change of social, I've sat for a year sitting through two of these events.

2724
05:20:30,490 --> 05:20:38,390
when in my district or the Johns the application to the governor is important to

2725
05:20:38,390 --> 05:20:43,870
make and I would encourage if you're not already doing it advocacy.

2726
05:20:45,230 --> 05:20:49,930
Senator Schiff is contacting supervisor Duggan. Senator Schiff had that as

2727
05:20:49,930 --> 05:20:50,910
access to the governor.

2728
05:20:52,960 --> 05:20:56,960
The Round Valley incident, the Round Fire, consumed 36

2729
05:20:56,960 --> 05:21:04,760
House. So the scale of that one, which was approved, and the scale of this one are virtually identical.

2730
05:21:05,580 --> 05:21:12,440
And the way to get it to happen is through advocacy to the governor's office. Governor Brown

2731
05:21:12,440 --> 05:21:20,240
and the round fire, can you remember if Governor Newsom was not going to be fired or not? I can't,

2732
05:21:20,240 --> 05:21:28,400
I don't remember, but continued advocacy, we can't just rely on Chris McCrassick submitted a form.

2733
05:21:29,760 --> 05:21:35,900
That's insufficient, it's great that he submits the form, but it takes continued advocacy.

2734
05:21:36,360 --> 05:21:44,500
So that, hopefully, that's happening. During the roundfire, it was the CIO, it was our state

2735
05:21:46,480 --> 05:21:51,860
It was our federal, I remember during that fire being contacted by Senator Feinstein's office.

2736
05:21:52,360 --> 05:21:52,860
What do you need?

2737
05:21:53,200 --> 05:21:55,260
We need an emergency declaration.

2738
05:21:55,600 --> 05:21:56,920
Can the senator call the governor?

2739
05:21:57,920 --> 05:21:58,700
Ask for this.

2740
05:21:59,580 --> 05:21:59,880
And it helped.

2741
05:22:00,320 --> 05:22:00,980
It all helped.

2742
05:22:01,680 --> 05:22:02,860
It finally rolled through.

2743
05:22:03,460 --> 05:22:07,580
And we may have that special community meeting after that fire.

2744
05:22:08,360 --> 05:22:12,860
And the cow people were there with their signs and their stickers and their explanations

2745
05:22:12,860 --> 05:22:18,020
of how the process works from hazardous materials to being allowed to rebuild.

2746
05:22:18,700 --> 05:22:24,240
It was very instructive for the community, it took time, it was very instructive for the community.

2747
05:22:24,920 --> 05:22:30,060
And then the cost factor knowing what I learned at that time is that there's no place in

2748
05:22:30,060 --> 05:22:32,440
Inua or Mono that can take this construction debris.

2749
05:22:32,960 --> 05:22:34,140
It has to go to Lancaster.

2750
05:22:34,140 --> 05:22:44,580
His Lancaster is aligned landfill and although stuff is going to be stuck here and there because that's what people do.

2751
05:22:46,460 --> 05:22:53,720
The cost of that I believe that just hauling the debris away was ten times what the estimate was.

2752
05:22:55,160 --> 05:22:59,140
And diesel has only got more expensive since then.

2753
05:23:04,000 --> 05:23:15,500
I also did, this is my community, that they're a long time in the county even longer.

2754
05:23:16,880 --> 05:23:20,740
I never wanted, I worked for those people over there for 30 years.

2755
05:23:21,800 --> 05:23:28,320
Cal Fire, people know the force of his people, not to slay you, but this broke my heart.

2756
05:23:30,480 --> 05:23:37,140
Every volunteer in our department is affected and impacted, it broke our hearts to see

2757
05:23:37,140 --> 05:23:38,320
our own community burden.

2758
05:23:39,440 --> 05:23:51,880
And I do want to give grades, give the Sheriff's Department an a grade, I want to give the

2759
05:23:51,880 --> 05:23:58,920
did. This may not happen a lot but they jumped in. Each could do what they could do

2760
05:23:58,920 --> 05:24:03,760
and they jumped in. But I am a little disappointed in some of the other

2761
05:24:03,760 --> 05:24:09,560
outreach. Posting things on websites is insufficient. You heard this morning

2762
05:24:09,560 --> 05:24:15,020
from behavioral health how she's posting something. That doesn't work because

2763
05:24:15,020 --> 05:24:21,020
that's a passive action that requires any assertive aggressive action by the

2764
05:24:21,020 --> 05:24:27,160
quote unquote, victim to go find the information. That's not the way it's supposed to float. Now,

2765
05:24:27,160 --> 05:24:32,160
maybe that's the best that can happen at the moment. I don't know. But I'm disappointed in that.

2766
05:24:32,500 --> 05:24:37,500
It doesn't outreach to the people that are hurting and there are people down there that are hurting.

2767
05:24:37,920 --> 05:24:44,060
Unfortunately, we have a chaplain, certified chaplain on our department and he has been acting

2768
05:24:44,060 --> 05:24:52,140
as a chapter. Ever since he was able to get off of firefighting duty. And one of

2769
05:24:52,140 --> 05:24:56,600
the things he did when we were escorting people into the site is he would take

2770
05:24:57,360 --> 05:24:59,980
And it wasn't just, I'm taking you, I'm here.

2771
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:27,280
There is the chaplain. Let's chat as we drive down. Let's chat if you want to, as we drive back. So there are ways to accomplish this. So whatever you can do to improve that side of the information sharing, I would encourage. Because websites are wonderful. Emails are wonderful texts. I mean, I didn't get any emergency texts. And before I came here today, I confirmed I'm active with Genesis. I am. No emergency texts.

2772
05:25:27,280 --> 05:25:34,240
In the AT&T site and the Verizon site, closest to the FireHap generators, the sites were

2773
05:25:34,240 --> 05:25:34,400
up.

2774
05:25:35,180 --> 05:25:35,820
They had power.

2775
05:25:36,360 --> 05:25:41,140
Now, whether the tower is necessary to communicate with each other, could or couldn't.

2776
05:25:41,620 --> 05:25:44,660
But, you know, that's not the sole excuse for this.

2777
05:25:45,000 --> 05:25:51,160
I think Ingrid nailed it when you can't just have one person available to cover because

2778
05:25:51,160 --> 05:25:55,740
Others, this happened on a Thursday, right around noon.

2779
05:25:56,280 --> 05:26:03,360
But if it's Sunday, right around noon, everybody has a right to go home, take a day off, go on vacation.

2780
05:26:05,610 --> 05:26:08,570
Thank you, I appreciate that, thank you very much.

2781
05:26:09,230 --> 05:26:17,070
To revisit the contacting part in two parts, as it's happening, we're always going to go door to door.

2782
05:26:17,550 --> 05:26:21,750
We need that, we're done, we can't rely on, well, they got a text.

2783
05:26:21,750 --> 05:26:35,450
We're still going to go house by house and check house by house and let people know and tell them that get out, get out now, get out soon, get prepared, that's we're always going to do that and thank the good Lord for all of our partners that came up in helpless with this.

2784
05:26:35,450 --> 05:26:40,530
I spoke about this this morning, but Mammoth Lake's police department was instrumental.

2785
05:26:41,230 --> 05:26:46,270
Chief Kasebian was Johnny on the spot, and he took the lead because our people were busy

2786
05:26:46,270 --> 05:26:51,370
all over the place. I happened to be out of town, caring for my father. So he really stepped up.

2787
05:26:51,810 --> 05:26:59,450
I owe him a debt of gratitude. CHP, Bishop Pee, Inno, Forest Service, everybody that was there,

2788
05:26:59,990 --> 05:27:04,250
my own search and rescue on their way back from a training. Everybody jumped in and did what they

2789
05:27:04,250 --> 05:27:08,970
needed to do. We're always going to do that. The communication part afterwards, reaching out,

2790
05:27:10,350 --> 05:27:15,990
I agree we need to do active contacting. In chief McGuire and I sat down and we went through

2791
05:27:15,990 --> 05:27:22,990
the assessors, I pulled up the parcel now and we went property by property and identified the people.

2792
05:27:23,130 --> 05:27:34,230
He has their phone numbers for creating a database. And I think it's just for those of us who are

2793
05:27:34,230 --> 05:27:35,490
everybody's email and phone number.

2794
05:27:36,090 --> 05:27:38,370
If government does not know everything about everybody,

2795
05:27:38,490 --> 05:27:40,270
which is a good thing, if you want to share that information

2796
05:27:40,270 --> 05:27:41,050
with that, it's great.

2797
05:27:41,510 --> 05:27:43,770
But we don't have ways of reaching out to everybody,

2798
05:27:44,150 --> 05:27:46,330
sort of going to their door or sending them a piece of mail.

2799
05:27:46,550 --> 05:27:49,250
So it's good that we have these community connections

2800
05:27:49,250 --> 05:27:51,790
that we can build on and reach out to people.

2801
05:27:51,950 --> 05:27:53,890
So we're building that database now to make sure

2802
05:27:53,890 --> 05:27:55,330
that everybody who is impacted by the fire,

2803
05:27:55,330 --> 05:27:56,810
whether they lost their property or not,

2804
05:27:57,170 --> 05:28:00,270
but everybody in McGee knows about the opportunity

2805
05:28:00,270 --> 05:28:01,570
to be on Friday to get assistance.

2806
05:28:02,110 --> 05:28:10,270
come to the Crowley Lake Community Center and talk to animal services, talk to public health, find other things that you need to find out what are my next steps.

2807
05:28:11,470 --> 05:28:18,290
So, I agree, we need to actively reach out to people. So, contacting during the incident, yes, we can work on that.

2808
05:28:18,850 --> 05:28:23,250
There are definitely ways we can improve that. And then afterwards, we're building on that too.

2809
05:28:25,180 --> 05:28:28,800
I'll ask him on that and this kind of goes back to what Fred said and I'm going to look

2810
05:28:28,800 --> 05:28:31,220
to you here and to our CAO.

2811
05:28:32,160 --> 05:28:37,580
When we have incidents in the county, I've watched sheriff's officers pick up wild land

2812
05:28:37,580 --> 05:28:38,620
houses and spray water.

2813
05:28:38,820 --> 05:28:43,520
I've watched firefighters, staff road closures, I've watched the road team try and find tenders

2814
05:28:43,520 --> 05:28:44,140
for people.

2815
05:28:44,760 --> 05:28:48,420
There's a culture that something's happening and we need to do everything we possibly can

2816
05:28:48,420 --> 05:28:49,700
right now in this minute.

2817
05:28:51,100 --> 05:28:55,880
And I think my expectation in disasters going forward is that same culture exists within

2818
05:28:55,880 --> 05:28:59,020
all areas of the county, internal and external.

2819
05:28:59,700 --> 05:29:03,640
Because outside in the moment, people are really good about doing what's right.

2820
05:29:06,280 --> 05:29:11,180
But if I told you that I had to wait to find out what my reimbursement strategy was, before

2821
05:29:11,180 --> 05:29:14,920
I sent my engine out on a fire call, and I'm going to show up at your house in eight days.

2822
05:29:16,180 --> 05:29:17,480
It would call for my head.

2823
05:29:19,060 --> 05:29:22,960
But as a county, when people are hurting, they don't have clarity of what's going on.

2824
05:29:23,280 --> 05:29:26,920
Some of them don't have computers to even check emails at this point in time or websites.

2825
05:29:27,340 --> 05:29:29,900
And to think that they're going to wait eight days for a lack.

2826
05:29:30,760 --> 05:29:32,520
And there've already been two community meetings.

2827
05:29:32,800 --> 05:29:35,580
When there's a community center people can be sitting at, it's unacceptable.

2828
05:29:36,520 --> 05:29:39,040
Our community constituents deserve better from the county.

2829
05:29:40,200 --> 05:29:45,240
And they're going to find out again in three, six, nine, 12 months when something else

2830
05:29:45,240 --> 05:29:45,600
happens.

2831
05:29:45,600 --> 05:29:52,540
another snowmageddon, another MCI car crash, another fire, another flood of whether something happened or not.

2832
05:29:53,420 --> 05:29:57,600
So you guys get to sit here today and say we know it was like this at the end fire.

2833
05:29:57,920 --> 05:29:59,580
We know this was like this at the walker fire.

2834
05:29:59,580 --> 05:29:59,980
we know

2835
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:15,520
We know this was like this during snowmageddon. We know this is how we operated during COVID. And you get to choose. Do you either sit here in a year from now, say, look at what we did better, or, yep, we're in the same place we were after the last four or five big instances. And that rests with you. Thank you.

2836
05:30:35,660 --> 05:30:36,860
we can do better. We will.

2837
05:30:45,140 --> 05:30:49,620
We're lucky we live where we live and we can find people's

2838
05:30:49,620 --> 05:30:53,680
numbers out because we have communities that are tied enough to know that and that we're

2839
05:30:53,680 --> 05:30:56,940
really blessed to have that. It's after I remember that.

2840
05:31:00,500 --> 05:31:08,920
I guess a question for our CAO, so this, the last center is opening on Friday. I think

2841
05:31:08,920 --> 05:31:15,360
would be helpful if people knew what to expect before then of what services are there and

2842
05:31:15,360 --> 05:31:22,620
things that are not so we can fill in. One of the remarkable things is while the fire was

2843
05:31:23,160 --> 05:31:29,360
happening and people were preparing to leave or just discovering it because the line of sight

2844
05:31:29,360 --> 05:31:38,680
for the entire community, some people didn't know it was on fire. But nobody waited for somebody

2845
05:31:38,920 --> 05:31:49,640
to tell them what to do, they knew what to do, and they frankly, the people who Crowley, Longbelly, and McGee, they moved a lot faster than anybody in the county did.

2846
05:31:50,600 --> 05:32:02,580
And I'm in the assumption that people are doing things that they need to do, but there's no real evidence of that, is that's something that we can fix.

2847
05:32:02,580 --> 05:32:16,340
And that communication, but right now it feels that Friday is too far away for a lot of people and there's a lot of questions, and we need to make sure that somebody's available.

2848
05:32:17,160 --> 05:32:31,360
I'm happy to just go and sit and figure out what the question of the day is because I think internally we assume that we know what people are going to ask.

2849
05:32:31,360 --> 05:32:45,220
But we don't and we have to think like a somebody that's affected and what questions you have, I have a million questions that I need to find the right person to ask.

2850
05:32:45,220 --> 05:32:54,080
I don't want to set fear among anybody that is where it's not warranted but imagine being in that situation.

2851
05:32:54,080 --> 05:33:03,040
and we heard today that nobody on Elani Lane was able that they didn't know it was happening

2852
05:33:03,040 --> 05:33:09,220
and I immediately thought, according to the map, I only see one egress in and out is that true

2853
05:33:09,220 --> 05:33:16,720
and I don't know that and I know people got to there but it was, I know the situation

2854
05:33:16,720 --> 05:33:21,280
if you weren't in the right place at the right time, you wouldn't have known

2855
05:33:21,280 --> 05:33:28,440
And those are the things that we can actually address here and not waiting for somebody to tell us to do the right thing.

2856
05:33:29,300 --> 05:33:44,220
And I remember working with Supervisor McFarland and the infire is every one of us should know and have confidence that these things are in place and know what are places.

2857
05:33:44,700 --> 05:33:45,800
There's nothing more frustrating.

2858
05:33:46,680 --> 05:33:49,280
ready to be deployed and nobody to tell you to polite.

2859
05:33:50,240 --> 05:33:52,420
So I figured out where all the food came from.

2860
05:33:53,340 --> 05:33:56,360
You know, nobody knew all this food was there,

2861
05:33:56,600 --> 05:33:58,600
where it came from because nobody communicated

2862
05:33:58,600 --> 05:33:59,920
the resending food to us.

2863
05:34:00,520 --> 05:34:03,740
If I had just gone by figuring somebody's going to,

2864
05:34:03,860 --> 05:34:07,340
you know, need my help and drag my husband along with me,

2865
05:34:07,880 --> 05:34:10,920
I could have sat there for two days and would have been wasted

2866
05:34:10,920 --> 05:34:13,960
and we ended up able to turn it around.

2867
05:34:13,960 --> 05:34:19,800
There's so many resources and everybody wants to be part of it and they are not going

2868
05:34:19,800 --> 05:34:25,060
to wait for us to get our act together, they're going to go out and do it because you

2869
05:34:25,060 --> 05:34:30,300
haven't had contractors and doctors and families that have lost their property, they're

2870
05:34:30,300 --> 05:34:31,280
not going to wait on us.

2871
05:34:31,880 --> 05:34:36,900
And telling them well you should or you shouldn't go out and do this, can I take care of yourself,

2872
05:34:37,180 --> 05:34:39,320
we can do that fine.

2873
05:34:40,440 --> 05:34:42,260
They're used to having to do for themselves.

2874
05:34:42,260 --> 05:34:49,040
We can do better for them and supply that so if we're not having, you know, the effect

2875
05:34:49,040 --> 05:34:56,240
was denied, that's the first thing somebody should call me because if the only thing I can

2876
05:34:56,240 --> 05:34:59,980
do is call people and tell them I'm going to call you until we get it.

2877
05:35:03,810 --> 05:35:30,090
I don't want to get in the way. I want to help them. And I think they expect me to be out there. I expect me to be out there. So those are the things that I don't know what services I've heard talk of, what services I've heard talk of.

2878
05:35:30,090 --> 05:35:36,770
on Friday, but I suspect there's agencies getting people, but they need to know if they

2879
05:35:36,770 --> 05:35:41,250
have it, what to bring with them and things because I remember from the last time we

2880
05:35:41,250 --> 05:35:47,870
were in here and what it was needed, but that needs to be communicated and I know that

2881
05:35:47,870 --> 05:35:53,830
it is not driven like Google, that people don't ask that, it has they, we can't just go and

2882
05:35:53,830 --> 05:36:00,470
assume that, but we can get messages out that are reliable because there was an awful

2883
05:36:00,470 --> 05:36:05,290
lot of wrong information available to that could have cost somebody their life.

2884
05:36:05,570 --> 05:36:13,390
And that's what we can stop and that's what I expect we start tomorrow to do because

2885
05:36:13,390 --> 05:36:20,590
we may be here all day, but tomorrow gather what we need to do to make sure the next time

2886
05:36:20,590 --> 05:36:23,310
this happens that we've learned something.

2887
05:36:28,830 --> 05:36:29,210
Thank you, Amanda.

2888
05:36:29,750 --> 05:36:34,410
We have a point person for long-term re-housing.

2889
05:36:35,490 --> 05:36:38,730
People that have been displaced and are a program.

2890
05:36:39,370 --> 05:36:42,850
Well, we had short-term obviously through hotels,

2891
05:36:42,850 --> 05:36:45,850
and I've seen kind of, I think it's kind of a community

2892
05:36:45,850 --> 05:36:47,810
what I've heard from the community.

2893
05:36:47,930 --> 05:36:49,850
It's really, we don't have a person who's trying

2894
05:36:49,850 --> 05:36:51,950
to help find people long-term housing,

2895
05:36:52,090 --> 05:36:54,030
but when I've talked to some of the people

2896
05:36:54,030 --> 05:36:59,970
We've been affected by the fire as some of these communities have said that they've been working kind of internally with each other.

2897
05:37:00,190 --> 05:37:04,750
So we don't have that point person now, but we certainly couldn't pull that information together.

2898
05:37:05,110 --> 05:37:10,810
And I can talk a little bit about the Friday, the resources that we're going to have.

2899
05:37:11,030 --> 05:37:15,530
We're obviously going to have a suite of county services, including animal services.

2900
05:37:15,550 --> 05:37:22,410
We'll have assessor behavioral health, the building divisions that they can talk about permitting and on those types of things.

2901
05:37:22,410 --> 05:37:23,850
is in just a caveat on permitting.

2902
05:37:24,030 --> 05:37:25,150
We did do this for the in-fire.

2903
05:37:25,330 --> 05:37:26,290
We waved the permit fees.

2904
05:37:26,430 --> 05:37:29,430
We'll bring that back to the board probably next month

2905
05:37:29,430 --> 05:37:32,210
to allow you to consider waving permit fees

2906
05:37:32,210 --> 05:37:35,390
for new homes in the fire area.

2907
05:37:35,990 --> 05:37:38,490
We'll have environmental health who can talk about

2908
05:37:38,490 --> 05:37:39,930
also the health impacts,

2909
05:37:40,150 --> 05:37:41,410
wells, those types of things.

2910
05:37:42,130 --> 05:37:45,110
We'll have public health and social services

2911
05:37:45,570 --> 05:37:46,530
and in solid ways.

2912
05:37:46,850 --> 05:37:47,830
I know that there's obviously,

2913
05:37:48,170 --> 05:37:51,070
there was a comment about where the debris needs to go

2914
05:37:51,070 --> 05:37:53,650
and we can have someone speak to that.

2915
05:37:53,930 --> 05:37:56,810
And then the reason why it's taking a little longer

2916
05:37:56,810 --> 05:37:59,650
is just we're working with our state partners

2917
05:37:59,650 --> 05:38:02,050
to bring in resources from the state,

2918
05:38:02,350 --> 05:38:04,670
including the Contractor State Licensing Board,

2919
05:38:05,010 --> 05:38:07,350
the Department of Insurance, the DMV,

2920
05:38:08,590 --> 05:38:12,870
and the Employment Development Department ADD as well.

2921
05:38:13,170 --> 05:38:14,950
So we're working with state agencies

2922
05:38:14,950 --> 05:38:16,130
to bring them in as well,

2923
05:38:16,650 --> 05:38:17,310
to provide services.

2924
05:38:17,510 --> 05:38:19,030
We're also working with local nonprofits,

2925
05:38:19,030 --> 05:38:21,590
It's, you know, like Eastern Sierra Community

2926
05:38:21,590 --> 05:38:24,770
housing is offered to help and help with some of the,

2927
05:38:24,830 --> 05:38:26,870
they may be able to help with these long-term rehoming.

2928
05:38:27,090 --> 05:38:28,910
So there is some other resources,

2929
05:38:29,270 --> 05:38:31,950
but it's taken, just takes time to compile all that group.

2930
05:38:32,410 --> 05:38:36,110
We wanna, we wanna provide that all as kind of

2931
05:38:36,110 --> 05:38:37,630
in a one-stop shop as possible.

2932
05:38:38,150 --> 05:38:40,630
And we met, you know, we've been meeting on this obviously

2933
05:38:40,630 --> 05:38:42,810
trying to make sure that we can make this experience

2934
05:38:42,810 --> 05:38:46,210
as seamless as possible for the, you know, the victims

2935
05:38:46,210 --> 05:38:50,510
as they come in and trying to kind of help improve our service there.

2936
05:38:50,750 --> 05:38:54,230
So that's why it is taking a little longer because it's not just county.

2937
05:38:54,450 --> 05:38:58,090
It's also community partners and state and nonprofits.

2938
05:38:58,830 --> 05:38:59,310
Understood.

2939
05:39:01,510 --> 05:39:04,410
There was something that I've asked several people.

2940
05:39:04,550 --> 05:39:07,830
Nobody knows the answer to this and I don't remember.

2941
05:39:08,070 --> 05:39:15,450
I'm sorry, but we discussed a few weeks ago at a meeting regarding some of

2942
05:39:15,450 --> 05:39:17,490
the supplies that we had for the walker fire,

2943
05:39:17,490 --> 05:39:22,270
that there were some trailers that were in question

2944
05:39:22,270 --> 05:39:23,970
of what we were doing with them.

2945
05:39:24,830 --> 05:39:27,610
I hopefully, I think that we have them,

2946
05:39:27,890 --> 05:39:29,930
and I don't know if they're inhabitable trailers,

2947
05:39:30,170 --> 05:39:31,870
but they could be staging trailers.

2948
05:39:32,310 --> 05:39:36,470
If we did have that, and hopefully we didn't move so quickly

2949
05:39:36,470 --> 05:39:40,890
that we got rid of them, which we'd had them for so long,

2950
05:39:41,050 --> 05:39:43,590
but that's entirely possible.

2951
05:39:43,590 --> 05:39:51,730
But even though those things are, they could be used as assets and staging down in those areas.

2952
05:39:52,310 --> 05:39:59,930
But looking for those resources that we had at the time, we know that we have to replace repair, but possible.

2953
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:29,100
Hopefully replace the water tender that was damaged. And those particular, I don't want the pursuit of the perfect, which we never can get to slow this down because, wait till Friday, wait till Friday, if I have to be able to say, wait till Friday because that resource will be available in the meantime, because this is happening still for them right now. The fire's not even out, correct? Okay.

2954
05:40:29,100 --> 05:40:36,860
Okay, there you go, because that is, you know, the impression of what it is, you can still

2955
05:40:36,860 --> 05:40:37,680
smell it down there.

2956
05:40:37,800 --> 05:40:40,580
You can't see it, but you can smell it, you know.

2957
05:40:40,760 --> 05:40:43,340
So you know it's there, and what happens when you smell it.

2958
05:40:43,520 --> 05:40:50,700
So what can we keep it doing to where people know that we still, we know you have needs.

2959
05:40:51,360 --> 05:40:53,040
And thank you to Church on the Mountain.

2960
05:40:53,040 --> 05:41:01,840
It has the best sound system around, go down and check it out, the largest area and people

2961
05:41:01,840 --> 05:41:08,660
that are continuing to help out, and they are, you know, a communication, they've become

2962
05:41:08,660 --> 05:41:14,800
part of the communication framework and let's not leave those out because that's very important

2963
05:41:14,800 --> 05:41:20,540
because they were on the front line and immediately helped, and that's, we want to continue to

2964
05:41:20,540 --> 05:41:20,880
do that.

2965
05:41:20,880 --> 05:41:29,730
Okay, I will follow up on the trailers, yeah a couple

2966
05:41:31,740 --> 05:41:35,720
of like suggestions. One United

2967
05:41:35,720 --> 05:41:43,560
policyholders who came and participated the Mountain View Fire they should be here they

2968
05:41:43,560 --> 05:41:50,700
I'm sure they'd be willing to be here almost on a you know days notice. I would also contact

2969
05:41:50,700 --> 05:41:57,820
Mary Boomer as soon as possible and get a comprehensive list from her of what

2970
05:41:57,820 --> 05:42:04,400
out external resources came in, not just initially, but I think also what

2971
05:42:04,400 --> 05:42:10,220
I'm hearing, what the community wants, is they want this information, it's

2972
05:42:10,220 --> 05:42:15,860
already longer than it would have liked it to be. So like if we can make the

2973
05:42:15,860 --> 05:42:22,860
commitment that like 24 hours from now, by tomorrow, we'll have to the everything we know

2974
05:42:22,860 --> 05:42:28,880
about what's going to be there on Friday and not just posted on the website but working

2975
05:42:28,880 --> 05:42:36,100
with Sheriff Ron and Chief McGuire who are compiling a list of contact information for

2976
05:42:36,100 --> 05:42:44,420
the 31 folks or more to just get that information all to them before the end of tomorrow.

2977
05:42:44,420 --> 05:42:51,060
like if we're telling if we can make that commitment and I think that's the best next step

2978
05:42:51,060 --> 05:42:57,420
that we can do. I don't know if that's possible to get all that information, but we have

2979
05:42:57,420 --> 05:43:04,620
social services and behavioral health to work in concert to make this happen. That at least

2980
05:43:04,620 --> 05:43:09,780
gives 48 hours or so notice to the impacted people.

2981
05:43:12,180 --> 05:43:13,680
That would be my suggestion.

2982
05:43:16,440 --> 05:43:17,300
Right. Now we will do that.

2983
05:43:21,460 --> 05:43:25,580
Lots of ideas, lots of ways to implement. I think often speed

2984
05:43:25,580 --> 05:43:32,100
is of importance because asking somebody to wait from Thursday to Friday to have a place

2985
05:43:32,100 --> 05:43:38,080
to go for a vacation is a very long time. I think that standing that up and this is where

2986
05:43:38,080 --> 05:43:43,400
the county I think steps in, county steps in and says we're going to get that center

2987
05:43:43,400 --> 05:43:47,040
open on Tuesday or Wednesday and we're going to just get people down there we're going

2988
05:43:47,040 --> 05:43:51,720
to start putting that out I think that would probably be helpful and bilingual because

2989
05:43:51,720 --> 05:43:56,460
some of the people who lost homes were also bilingual Spanish speaking and we have not

2990
05:43:56,920 --> 05:44:02,660
really stepped into that piece of it. I called Mary for yesterday and put her in touch

2991
05:44:02,660 --> 05:44:07,460
with gentlemen who owns the campground,

2992
05:44:07,800 --> 05:44:09,940
they're not the campground, the trailer park property.

2993
05:44:11,420 --> 05:44:14,360
And what we have to also realize is that those lots

2994
05:44:14,360 --> 05:44:17,780
have to be clean, those lots have to be walk across clean

2995
05:44:18,300 --> 05:44:20,260
before you can plop something else down on them.

2996
05:44:20,440 --> 05:44:23,720
So that is going to never hampered by weather and winter

2997
05:44:24,080 --> 05:44:26,720
and the fact that you can't just get out there and do them.

2998
05:44:27,060 --> 05:44:28,840
My understanding is that most of the trailers

2999
05:44:29,720 --> 05:44:32,780
have either been moved out or are probably not habitable.

3000
05:44:34,240 --> 05:44:36,820
There is other options here that's not the first,

3001
05:44:37,580 --> 05:44:39,420
you know, people that have had to be looking for this.

3002
05:44:40,400 --> 05:44:43,780
The self-determination of somebody telling me

3003
05:44:43,780 --> 05:44:45,980
for a Saturday night after they get together,

3004
05:44:46,100 --> 05:44:48,040
they're going to take their loader down there tomorrow,

3005
05:44:48,040 --> 05:44:49,520
they're going to start cleaning out the,

3006
05:44:49,920 --> 05:44:52,640
they're like, okay, maybe we should talk about that.

3007
05:44:53,120 --> 05:44:54,640
But that is what will happen,

3008
05:44:54,640 --> 05:44:59,980
because people will move themselves quickly if you don't.

3009
05:45:00,210 --> 05:45:27,010
We have available availability for them to have other options. It's just like a very bad cause our county assessor came to that meeting and said, I have the form with me, I have that form you can fill out and get off the tax roll immediately. So you're going to have to pay your taxes because you don't have a house anymore. That's the kind of immediacy. I think the people are looking for someone who is standing there ready to hand you the form, explain to you, do that.

3010
05:45:27,010 --> 05:45:33,150
And so yeah, I think we should stand it up as quickly as we can because it's like, you

3011
05:45:33,150 --> 05:45:38,970
know, I understand the intent behind making all of that area, hazmat area, we know making

3012
05:45:38,970 --> 05:45:43,050
hybris, but at the end of the day we know this, people need to see their property.

3013
05:45:43,510 --> 05:45:47,390
They need to look at it and go, oh, it's gone.

3014
05:45:48,010 --> 05:45:51,590
There's that grief, you know, process that you have to think about right away.

3015
05:45:51,590 --> 05:45:57,370
You can't keep them out of there for two weeks because you might get some, sorry, terrible.

3016
05:45:57,950 --> 05:46:02,490
Because you don't want to get that stuff on you, people need to see.

3017
05:46:02,750 --> 05:46:05,370
People need to touch it, perhaps, and need to look.

3018
05:46:06,250 --> 05:46:07,810
So there's a lot of things I think we need to better.

3019
05:46:07,950 --> 05:46:10,590
And we can embed that into a response plan.

3020
05:46:11,310 --> 05:46:14,050
You should be embedded. They shouldn't have to be made up every time.

3021
05:46:14,150 --> 05:46:17,550
You should be able to drill an exercise app before the case.

3022
05:46:18,070 --> 05:46:20,890
You should be able to step up into it on the day of.

3023
05:46:20,890 --> 05:46:23,250
and you should be able to know which your directions are.

3024
05:46:23,410 --> 05:46:27,390
So that I think is one of our big first goals to make sure is in place.

3025
05:46:27,590 --> 05:46:32,510
And we have been asking for that for a while, so it needs to be prioritized.

3026
05:46:33,470 --> 05:46:38,990
One comment going back 10 years to the round fire is the assistant center.

3027
05:46:39,110 --> 05:46:43,770
Was it, again, at the Crowley community center, it wasn't confined to one day.

3028
05:46:44,410 --> 05:46:50,210
It was a multi-day operation, as people came up from

3029
05:46:50,210 --> 05:46:54,350
swamados and paradise. It was a multi-day operation. Again,

3030
05:46:55,750 --> 05:47:04,250
necessitated by the fact that that was a February fire. And whether it came in and out,

3031
05:47:04,730 --> 05:47:12,910
not everybody could be where they needed to be because of that. But it was very helpful

3032
05:47:13,530 --> 05:47:19,770
to have it there as a multi-day operation. And there were days that not many people came.

3033
05:47:20,210 --> 05:47:25,090
it didn't close for almost two weeks. It didn't. And the coffee pot was on. The cookies were there. The

3034
05:47:25,090 --> 05:47:32,010
sounders were there. Absolutely. Somebody was there. Was there to do it. So, you know, I'm hoping that

3035
05:47:32,010 --> 05:47:40,710
that's the vision that you're beginning to to adopt that this will be an extra more extended than a

3036
05:47:40,710 --> 05:47:45,170
one off come if you didn't come you missed it.

3037
05:47:47,850 --> 05:47:51,390
COVID complicated things with the mountain view fire

3038
05:47:52,070 --> 05:47:59,510
horribly but you know I my impression and I left office that January so I wasn't there for a

3039
05:47:59,510 --> 05:48:05,890
lot of the follow up but my impression is that a lot of that same activity occurred up in Walker

3040
05:48:05,890 --> 05:48:11,310
and it should have, you know, as that was a horrible, horrible incident and so

3041
05:48:11,310 --> 05:48:16,430
and unfortunately on that one there was a fatality and fortunately on this

3042
05:48:16,430 --> 05:48:16,630
one.

3043
05:48:18,980 --> 05:48:24,180
Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay. Any other comments? Questions? Anybody

3044
05:48:24,180 --> 05:48:29,280
online? We need that once to speak? Okay. Yes, please. Oh,

3045
05:48:31,750 --> 05:48:32,870
you don't have to. That's

3046
05:48:32,870 --> 05:48:35,090
Okay, Scott Walker.

3047
05:48:35,270 --> 05:48:38,310
I built two of the three surviving houses.

3048
05:48:42,410 --> 05:48:44,990
The whole process for building those houses

3049
05:48:44,990 --> 05:48:47,950
was excruciating painful on the campus side.

3050
05:48:49,590 --> 05:48:54,930
I was, it was very difficult to get permits.

3051
05:48:56,010 --> 05:48:59,870
It was very difficult to excursion and get inspections.

3052
05:49:00,590 --> 05:49:03,130
I was treated like a dumb hillbilly.

3053
05:49:03,130 --> 05:49:09,670
I was, it was, it was, it was tough, it was, the county could not be things easy

3054
05:49:09,670 --> 05:49:14,710
first to build those houses, especially with such a housing shortage.

3055
05:49:17,410 --> 05:49:21,610
I'm not saying, you know, just let anybody throw anything up but,

3056
05:49:22,070 --> 05:49:31,210
just the obstructionism, the roadblocking of a lot of the county procedures,

3057
05:49:31,210 --> 05:49:32,830
There's these to be changed.

3058
05:49:34,290 --> 05:49:39,530
So in the months and years going forward, please take that into consideration.

3059
05:49:40,110 --> 05:49:45,090
Not only for the people who lost their homes, but for the county in general, because it's

3060
05:49:45,090 --> 05:49:45,630
tough.

3061
05:49:45,950 --> 05:49:49,830
It's tough to get through these policies and procedures.

3062
05:49:51,390 --> 05:49:52,850
There really has to be something.

3063
05:49:55,560 --> 05:49:56,080
Thank you.

3064
05:49:56,300 --> 05:49:57,040
Thank you for saying that.

3065
05:49:57,040 --> 05:49:57,560
you

3066
05:50:03,630 --> 05:50:33,510
Christine Mushard, Assistant CAO. I want to let you guys know that we have been working. I've been working closely with HHS and behavioral health and Dr. Boo. And we are working on individually reaching out to people, not just through social media. That is eight backup. So we have a list of people. We don't, we are still trying to get phone numbers. I'm going to meet with Scott after this and hopefully we can get all the numbers that we need. But we are working

3067
05:50:33,510 --> 05:50:37,650
through the phone lines too, not just through social media.

3068
05:50:38,350 --> 05:50:39,830
It's a plan to clarify that.

3069
05:50:41,110 --> 05:50:41,850
Thanks, Piston.

3070
05:50:44,960 --> 05:50:48,140
Okay, everybody else on e-commerce.

3071
05:50:50,320 --> 05:50:52,940
We are down to thank you all for showing up here.

3072
05:50:53,360 --> 05:50:55,120
Thank you for helping us walk through this.

3073
05:50:55,520 --> 05:50:57,340
Thank you for your ideas and your support.

3074
05:50:57,720 --> 05:51:01,520
And it's a management team always appreciated.

3075
05:51:01,700 --> 05:51:05,020
We didn't have snow for you this time, but we had something else.

3076
05:51:05,020 --> 05:51:10,100
So, I like it when you're in town, when you're in the region, so I think.

3077
05:51:10,300 --> 05:51:14,920
The local responders, the words, the words to thank everybody for what they did,

3078
05:51:15,420 --> 05:51:18,860
and their own friends and family were being threatened and everybody shows up

3079
05:51:18,860 --> 05:51:23,480
and that's what they do, so it can be more lucky in that way, not perfect.

3080
05:51:24,240 --> 05:51:27,580
I always get better at it, so I think we're gonna get there.

3081
05:51:27,660 --> 05:51:29,100
So, let's take it to a minute break.

3082
06:05:09,550 --> 06:05:38,290
This was on consent. It was the item that was pulled, item 6e. Contract amendment with barry enterprises back on here. We're going to do a couple of little things and then probably be done for the day. But we have item number e, which was pulled off the consent agenda. Contract amendment with barry enterprises, Inc. DBA, Sierra, Electronics, and as Mike spoke to us, Senator, you want to clear that up a little bit.

3083
06:05:39,650 --> 06:05:40,130
Sorry.

3084
06:05:40,490 --> 06:05:46,890
Well, Mike Martinez just said that this is an item that is only about between public works

3085
06:05:46,890 --> 06:05:53,090
in this company to finish some work that they've been doing, so we really only have to

3086
06:05:53,090 --> 06:05:53,410
do that.

3087
06:05:53,470 --> 06:05:57,890
That's the upbringing of the vehicles.

3088
06:05:58,350 --> 06:05:58,510
Yes.

3089
06:05:58,970 --> 06:06:01,850
Upsetting of the vehicles and the funding comes from fleet.

3090
06:06:02,190 --> 06:06:03,630
So I did confirm that with care and spare.

3091
06:06:03,630 --> 06:06:10,210
So the fiscal impact is just a 75,000 area, which has actually been increased $100,000 not to exceed

3092
06:06:10,750 --> 06:06:16,470
for doing that work on the behalf of the county with new vehicles, so questions, comments, discussion.

3093
06:06:18,050 --> 06:06:19,650
Motion to approve. Second.

3094
06:06:21,030 --> 06:06:28,350
Second. Okay, on paper. Hi. Okay, so that is passed. Thank you. Okay, so let me look through here.

3095
06:06:28,350 --> 06:06:38,390
I can just go ahead and talk about so we discussed pushing several items to the next board meeting, which is December 9th.

3096
06:06:38,450 --> 06:06:45,030
That would include items 7E, which is the 2025, DRAC, Mono County, and Town of Memphis.

3097
06:06:45,270 --> 06:06:47,070
Multi-dress Dictionary Hazard Mitigation Plan.

3098
06:06:47,690 --> 06:06:55,930
We will also move items 10B and C, which is the housing update and the strategic plan update.

3099
06:06:55,930 --> 06:06:58,930
We will move those all to December 9th.

3100
06:06:59,630 --> 06:06:59,770
Okay.

3101
06:07:00,130 --> 06:07:02,750
Have nobody has any exceptions to that?

3102
06:07:02,830 --> 06:07:04,430
Does anyone want to do board reports today?

3103
06:07:05,290 --> 06:07:08,110
We're just going to ask, do we also have a board meeting on the 16th?

3104
06:07:08,650 --> 06:07:09,130
We do.

3105
06:07:09,470 --> 06:07:09,630
Yes.

3106
06:07:10,110 --> 06:07:10,210
Okay.

3107
06:07:11,030 --> 06:07:12,550
The 16th of December.

3108
06:07:12,710 --> 06:07:12,970
December.

3109
06:07:14,050 --> 06:07:14,210
Good.

3110
06:07:15,230 --> 06:07:19,130
I would just add that if I know on board reports I don't need to do it.

3111
06:07:19,670 --> 06:07:25,790
If we need another meeting between the 9th and between that week of the meeting,

3112
06:07:25,790 --> 06:07:44,360
meeting that's the 9th and the 16th to address issues with the fire or other things, and we should just have us, you know, maybe get a date that everybody can agree on now it's a special meeting because that first meeting would be in Bridgeport.

3113
06:07:44,820 --> 06:07:54,580
You might need a meeting that week here or even an adjourn meeting in the community center or something to address specifically where we're at.

3114
06:07:54,580 --> 06:07:59,260
But what we're doing and what the expectations are might be helpful.

3115
06:07:59,560 --> 06:07:59,680
Okay.

3116
06:08:00,260 --> 06:08:00,860
Thank you.

3117
06:08:02,740 --> 06:08:04,180
All right, everybody.

3118
06:08:05,300 --> 06:08:05,720
Good work today.

3119
06:08:06,700 --> 06:08:07,540
A lot of information.

3120
06:08:08,280 --> 06:08:11,280
Everybody really did a great job.

3121
06:08:11,640 --> 06:08:12,520
So thank you all.

3122
06:08:12,640 --> 06:08:17,300
And we stand adjourned until the 9th of December.

3123
06:08:18,140 --> 06:08:18,640
Okay, everyone.

3124
06:08:19,140 --> 06:08:19,820
Have a good Thanksgiving.

3125
06:08:19,820 --> 06:08:20,720
Thank you very much.