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>> Good morning everyone. This is the

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meeting of Mono Council held on Tuesday,
September 22nd, 2026. This meeting is

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being conducted both in chambers and by
means of electronic participation as

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permitted by section 238 subsection 3.1
of the municipal act 2001 as amended and

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the town of Mono's procedural bylaw
2020-42.

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Uh this meeting can be viewed live uh or
later on uh through the uh the website.

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Um residents of course can uh uh join
the meeting uh virtually uh or in

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person. Uh we do have a quorum. Uh
location of the emergency exits are in

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the rear of the council chamber. Um and
uh I'll begin with the indigenous land

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uh acknowledgement. I would like to
begin by respectfully uh acknowledging

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that the town of Mono resides within the
traditional territory and ancestral

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lands of the Teotante, Adoralon,
Hanachon, and Ashinabi peoples. We also

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acknowledge that the town of Mono
resides within the treaty lands named

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under treaty 18 not saga purchase of
1818.

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These traditional territories upon which
we live and learn are steeped in rich

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indigenous history and traditions. It is
with this statement that we declare to

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honor and respect the past and present
connection of indigenous people with

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this land, its waterways and resources.

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I have a motion uh that council approves
the minutes of session uh 14. Pardon me.

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» I I don't have a an agenda here. Um so
I'll I'll improvise. Um I there's a

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motion that council approves the agenda
of uh session uh held on um

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» September 22. September 22nd, 2026.
Uh moved by uh Councelor Cape, seconded

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by Deputy Mayor Nicks. Any objection to
the agenda is published.

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Thank you.
I have a motion uh that council approves

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the minutes of session 14 uh 2026 as
circulated. Uh moved by councelor

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Magdalo, seconded by councelor Capes.
Any opposition?

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And that motion is carried.

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Members are free to declare pecuniary
interest at this point or at any point

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in the course of the meeting followed up
in writing uh with the clerk. We have

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one proclamation today, cyber security
awareness month. Whereas October is

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recognized as cyber security awareness
month. And whereas cyber security

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awareness month is an internationally
recognized campaign held each October to

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promote cyber security. And whereas
digital technology plays a central role

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in our everyday lives and it can have
far-reaching security, economic and

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social impact. And whereas there is an
increasing threat of cyber attacks and

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risk risk to our privacy. And whereas
the internet is a shared resource and

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securing it a shared responsibility.
Whereas the town of Mono acknowledges

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its responsibility by taking a proactive
and adaptive approach to data security.

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On behalf of council, I do proclaim
October 2026 as cyber security awareness

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month in the town of Mona.

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And that brings us to question period.
And uh uh I'm going to uh recognize

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anyone in the gallery uh first who has a
question to ask.

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Mr. Sturgis, come on forward.

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And if you could uh just uh hit the
button on the speaker there until it

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lights up red and if you can give us
your name and address. I was just

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noticing that uh my name is James
Sturgis. Um my wife and I live at 594438

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Blind Line in Mono and we've operated a
cattle farm there for a little over 30

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years. Um I provided the clerk with a
letter and the supporting emails

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regarding two farm files, AO3 2026 and
AO126.

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These were sent to committee of
adjustment on July 30th because staff

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incorrectly countered a principal barn
as an accessory building and applied the

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house cap. In my case, I was asked twice
I asked twice how a cattle barn met the

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accessory building bylaw test, i.e. that
it's incidental, subordinate, and

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exclusively devoted to the house. The
reply after the CEO was consulted did

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not apply that test. It just said this
is how the town controls large

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structures.
The bylaw already treats the dual use

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rural lot as two uses, each with a
principal building and each with its own

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600 square meter accessory cap. I'm not
asking to remove the cap. I'm simply

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asking that it be applied to buildings
that are actually accessory, not to the

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principal barn. So my question is, will
council refer the letter that I provided

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to the town solicitor for a report to a
name meeting setting out how the

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principal farm building on a dual use
rural lot is to be classified under the

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bylaw and recommending whether to refund
the feed deposit and sign cost on those

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two files, AO3 2026 and AO126.
>> Thank you. Does staff have any comment

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on this before we turn it over to
council?

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» No, I think that's a fair request from
Mr. Sturgis. He has a concern with

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respect to uh um maybe from the the town
planner to the town solicitor, but I

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think it's a fair request.
>> Okay. Does any member of council have a

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a question, Fred?
>> No, I I'm not sure I have a question. I

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I read Mr. the letter from Mr. Sturgeis
and quite frankly, I I agree. I'm I

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admit I'm not a planner, but I did look
up the definition of accessory in

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Webster's dictionary, and I don't think
we're applying the word properly in our

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in in what we've been doing. But I'm I'm
I'm unclear your worship on the the

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process here. We've had a a planner
who's by by and large, you know, a good

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planner, a consultant planner, make a
decision. We sent it to the committee of

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a um adjustment.
Do do we what what do we as council have

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the authority to do in this case? We we
can't we can't disagree with them or or

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I guess we can disagree. We can't can't
override their decision, can we? I I

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guess the best we can do is
>> what they found in they found in favor

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of Mr. Sturgey's application.
>> I'm not asking to override it. Um my

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concern is that it went to the committee
of adjust in the first place. Um, I'm

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I'm okay with the decision, but it was
an unnecessary decision. It has cost me

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in terms of money um currently $7,500
and it has also cost me in time. It it

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added 4 months to the process of getting
a barn repaired. Um the approach being

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taken right now ignores the fact that
farms exist really and it has potential

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damage to the town of Mono. Um if
litigation is placed on them, um I don't

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think the town of Mono would be able to
defend the way that they've treated

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because it ignored certain parts of the
bylaw. Um the other thing is it has

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pretty far ranging things in terms of
farmers. It supported farmers in this

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area. Um, one of them is it creates
another incentive and I think you

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mentioned preserving bank barns. It
creates an incentive to destroy bank

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barns because they're put into that
accessory by classifying them accessory

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not as the main building. They basically
consume all of the accessory building

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space. So any farmer putting up a a
silo, anything any kind of farm building

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» makes it so that you're over.
>> Yeah. Do we do if I could just follow

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up? Do we
>> Melinda and then I'll get back to you.

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» Okay.
>> Thank Thank you very much for bringing

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this, but I think that council needs to
remember that the reason why we're in

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this situation now is a decision that
council made and and perhaps the the

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discussions that we were having, you
know, in Chitty Chat before the meeting

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even started about large large
structures. Council has placed in this

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term an an importance on large
structures and we have turned to our

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staff and our and our um advisors in the
planning department. How can we stop

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this from snowballing before we can get
a handle on all of the official plan

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changes because the county keeps making
changes so we're having to put off what

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we're doing and so on. And so you have
you have brought to us a an an issue

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from your point of view that we we
hadn't particularly looked at as um but

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the main crux of why we went with this
and we ex specifically instructed

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Deborah to to come up with a way to be
able to have it so that stuff h what

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stuff is happening we get to see it
first. So so it works.

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» I have I have no problem with that. my
problem is violating the zoning bylaw

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which is being ignored. So, you know,
you can basically say that about

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anything. We want them to do something,
cross out those lines. There is a there

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is a legal agreement between the town of
Mono and its residents which is being

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violated.
>> Right. So, and I understand your point

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of view on that on that, but that this
was the idea that the unfortunate part

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is that things take longer than we want
them to. later on in our on our um our

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meeting today the the um unfinished
business and the report and so on just

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shows that you know lots of things get
done but there's also a lot of things

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that takes it takes seemingly years to
to carry on so I am reassured that this

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that the what we implemented what um
went through so that you got your

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variance and you got yes you had delays
and so on and so to talk to our

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solicitor is exactly the next step no we
should not be meddling in in changing

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anything nor is Mr. Sturgeis is asking
us to, but the idea that um a a refund

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may very well may very well be the the
absolute appropriate thing to do and

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that this should push things to the top
for the next council cuz we're at the

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end here for the next council. This
should be pushed to the top of the of

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the list to make sure. But it's not like
we're completely offside. We have we

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have the the by my looking at all of the
bylaws and things and the way that we do

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things differently than other rural
municipalities is it's true. We're doing

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things a little bit differently, but
it's not necessarily but our but I'm not

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legal. So to to get a legal opinion is
is uh I think the appropriate thing to

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request. [clears throat]
>> That's what I'm asking. I think and I

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think it it it also saves Mono from um a
little bit of legal cost now may save

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Mono from a lot of legal costs later. In
my p particular situation, it may have

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been a couple hundred,000 lawsuit
against the town if this barn was not

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built. In a farmer, if you think of it
from a farmer point of view, I would

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have to sit at the end of the year
without a barn to put my cows in and I

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would have to sell my herd and shut down
farming because they need a place in the

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winter with a destroyed barn. And you
know, if something comes through mono,

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some kind of a disaster, and we have
this situation where none of the farmers

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are allowed to rebuild their barns, it's
it's not really very supportive of

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farming in this community. Well, and
reading further into your letter, it was

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a damaged barn and you just replaced the
same size or were was there, oh, let's

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take an opportunity as lots of people
do. Well, if we're re renovating the

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kitchen, let's make it bigger, whatever.
Did you

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» I'm replacing a damaged barn with a barn
that has a smaller foot floor plan,

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» right?
>> So, it's actually a smaller barn.

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» I thought I read that, but Okay. All
right. Thank you. Thank you,

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» Fred. And then uh
>> I just want to check something councelor

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Davyy said it the decision council made
was simply to refer to the committee for

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large residential structures. It had
nothing to do it had nothing to do with

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other structures.
It as I as I recall. Okay. So it it had

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nothing to do with Barnes.
>> If if you look at all the definitions

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» Excuse me. Um, I'm going to defer to
councilors who have not yet spoken if

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they would like to weigh in.

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» I am not a planner, nor am I technically
qualified to address all of the concerns

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that you've raised. However, if it is an
existing barn structure, why would we

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make people go through the committee of
adjustments for variance if it's going

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on the same footprint? Like I I think
there's some lack of clarity maybe and

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I'm not sure. I just read it. I got it
late yesterday and um I think it's worth

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a good discussion. Um, but I I agree
that a barn is a barn. It's not just

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some large accessory building on a
property. So, I think we do need to

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remember that and recognize that and and
treat it that way. So, that's what I

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will say in support of what you're
saying.

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» Thank you.

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» Yes.
>> Yeah. Go ahead.

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» Thank you. Thank you. Uh, thanks for
coming here and presenting this. As I

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have a barn, I'm quite warm to you. I
suppose the uh your point is that the

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barn is not an accessory building to a
house. It's an a part of a land and the

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land is a farm. And I'd have to defer to
planners to uh uh determine if that's

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correct. It sounds correct to me. Um
uh the process is where we go from here

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as Fred has asked. And your honor, have
you come with some suggestions?

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Well, I I have my own take on this and I
I I'm going to keep it as simple as

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possible and that is that um I believe
that you should have been able to to uh

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replace your damaged barn with a
structure uh not larger uh without

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having to go through the committee of
adjustment. I mean it's as simple as

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that. uh the analogy that you make to a
situation where you have uh um you know

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a number of of barns or structure uh
agricultural structures damaged as a

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result of a big storm uh and then all of
a sudden there's a lineup at the

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committee of adjustment makes no sense
to me. So I think the question we ask

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our lawyer uh or our planner or both uh
is whether or not uh people such as

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yourself replacing an existing building
not building a new building an existing

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building whether or not if it is uh of
the same size same footprint possibly

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maybe next door to the to the old
structure whether you have to go through

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the committee of adjustment yes or no
and I don't think you should have to go

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through the committee of adjustment. A
new building. Yes. Okay. A a brand new

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standalone uh building. I can see
understand that one that is larger than

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600 square m. Um I get that. This is not
to be conflated with the large homes.

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This is a totally different issue. And
the definition of accessory needs to be

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cleaned up. It absolutely needs to be
cleaned up. It's become a catchall for

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everything. You
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that that addresses my situation, but
there were two of these on the last

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committee of adjustment meeting. And the
other one um basically showed that by

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considering that barn as an accessory,
the main barn as an accessory, it

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consumed all that person's
accessory room. So it's basically says

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that a farmer does not who has a bank
barn does not have the ability that

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someone who just has a house and wants
to build something.

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» Mhm.
>> So I believe that there should be room

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within the bylaw which I believe it is
there by treating it separately as a

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farm that a farm can build a building
subject to approval by county of Duffren

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building department that is within that
600 m. Not that by reclassifying the

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main barn as a main building, it
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a farmer sitting there, every farmer in
Mono has to get a committee of

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adjustment to build anything if they
have a bank barn. They've used it all

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up. And I don't think that's right. I
don't think that offers the same

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advantage to people. And you know, it's
I think it takes away from the idea that

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the farm is completely separate. And I
think the the actual definition of

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accessory building is very good. Um to
put it in very simple terms, um it

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implies a dependence accessory building
dependent a dependence on a main

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building.
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» That dependence if it's not there means
it's not an accessory building. Um, so

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for example, if I go home tonight and my
house has been blown over and it's not

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there, by deeming it as an accessory,
the barn is accessory to my house, it

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implies that it needs that house. It
doesn't. That farm completely functions

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unadulterated. And the bylaw actually
divides it and this really only doesn't

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reflect somebody living on a property
anywhere. It reflects something that is

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actually used for those dual purposes
and it should be treated that way. The

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bylaw actually says that it says I have
two lots and that's the way it was asked

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into planning. I have a residential lot
and I have a farm lot. Each of those

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have a 600 meter and I should be able to
use those and each one of those has a

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primary building and they're completely
independent. They can both be completely

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separate and that preserves farming. So
I think just looking at the idea of

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rebuilding and simplifying it down to a
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farmers to actually produce on.
>> So yeah, I think you know I think we're

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saying sort of the same thing, but I I
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ambiguity in our official plan andor
zoning bylaw uh that leads to this kind

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of of confusion quite frankly. And I
think I think if the planning report had

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been done um that Deborah put together,
if the started off with instead of

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saying this is an accessory building, it
is like any planning meeting where she

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said for an accessory building there are
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those tests.
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» The later part of the report came back
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that it's a farm and it meets Mono's
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these tests have been met so therefore
we prove it. So that's all that's

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required. If the beginning of it
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accessory building according to the
bylaw that's that works that works in

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both those situations a very simple
thing and it doesn't affect somebody

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that just has a residential lot and is
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what you're concerned with. So yeah any
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thank you. I think a lot of our concern
also or their the concern cuz it's not

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even when I said this term it's even
from before before my time when there

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was somebody who had and wanted to build
something and everybody wanted them to

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not build it. So it's it's just a matter
of having controls and so when now that

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things are put to put to test of actual
cases and we find that there's some

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things that need to be changed that's
that's great. It would be nice if that

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had not happened for you and for the
other farm to be able to to have

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foreseen this, but I I I do want to it
stated or known that that this it was in

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good faith that the that the change was
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made it. But but if now we wanted to now
that we've seen that there's a problem

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with it then then changing it again is
or you know or modifying it again is is

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the appropriate thing to do
>> and and maybe in conclusion if I can

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suggest that this should not wait until
our comprehensive review of zoning or

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official plan. this is this is a big
enough problem that I think it needs to

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be addressed um one off and I know
that's maybe not uh to everyone's liking

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but I think that when something like
this comes up uh we need to address it

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and not put it off until we you know
we've been talking about a a review of

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our zoning bylaw now for for eight years
and it hasn't happened yet. So, your

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worship, do we need a motion to direct
staff to inquire with our lawyer about

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the definition of accessory
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» I think we can give oral direction that
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forth on this and uh um I think the the
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planner and to uh to council.
>> Well, we know the planner's opinion. She

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she's told us
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existing zoning bylaw but if she had her
if she had her brothers would she uh

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rewrite it that's I guess the question
or take a different approach. Well, you

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know, and it's interesting because in
part of the email conversation, you can

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see it. Um, it came up where in her
first response, she did not realize it

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was a replacement barn to the existing
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» right?
>> She said, "Wait a second." So, I think

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that,
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funny thing, but then it came back to,
well, this instead of being an actual

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bylaw thing, it's more of a procedure.
this is the way we do it, which

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I think that needs to follow
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you've still got a you've still got a
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» I don't want to say reigns supreme. I
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there.
>> Maybe later on you can change it and

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» you know, maybe the wish is to change
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so it's anything but the house,
>> which is not great for farming. um and

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to remove the idea of viewing it as two
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a and a residential lot. But, you know,
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I just think it's simply how it's being
interpreted. You know, I and I and I

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understand I I fully understand the
reason for doing it. And I understand

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the reason that you want to control
those buildings, but I I think the

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better way to do it is, as you say, is
to rewrite the bylaw to actually allow

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that to be done according to the zoning
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And and the default position shouldn't
be, oh, just kick it over to committee

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of adjustment. That's an easy process.
It's not an easy process. It's a costly

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process. It's a time-consuming process.
And if we if we can agree that that

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replacement of an existing agricultural
building with another building of equal

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size, not larger, uh shouldn't have to
go through that process. It's just

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reduced one layer of red tape in my
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» Yeah. Mike, sorry. Uh you worship in the
interest of keeping the flavor of

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question period. Um I answered very
early that I would definitely look into

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Mr. Sturgis's concerns and and uh and
continue that and uh and and I think

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we're we're turning this into a zoning
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» as opposed to a question and answer.
Thank you.

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» We have Okay, I'm fine. Thank you, Mr.
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» All right.

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Are there any other questions in the
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Sharon? Okay. Any questions submitted uh
in advance?

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Is there anyone online?

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Okay, we have no delegations today.
And that brings us to uh unfinished uh

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business and deferred items. And we have
uh a report from uh the uh the clerk on

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that.
>> The deputy clerk.

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» She's the clerk now,
>> right?

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» She's been
>> The report is from the deputy clerk. the

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» Okay, it is from the deputy clerk. We're
going to be confused for a while, I

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think.
>> Um, sure. If you'd like to do that.

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» Are we all right?
>> Yep.

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» Okay. Jessica, any uh any observations
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» I don't have anything to add to the
report. If council has any questions, we

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can uh certainly answer them.
>> Okay. Um Elaine and then Fred,

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» I would just like to say thank you. I
think this is a a brilliant summary

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report and it's very much appreciated. I
think it's uh really good to see this

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and to appreciate the work that has been
done. Yes, there's still more there, but

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there's always more. And so, um just
thank you. Um, I'm I'm very grateful for

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the summary and I'm very grateful for
the work that's been accomplished to

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date. It's all I have to say,
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» I know the recommendation is well,
they're basically saying the clerk's

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department needs more resources and we
should wait until the new council takes

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its chair before we make that decision.
But I'll go on record of saying as

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important as these bylaws that we've
referred to the clerk's department are.

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These these are important things. Quite
frankly, when it comes to budget time,

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if I'm have anything to do with it, I'm
going to be looking more at what we've

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done to our roads than I am more
resources for the the clerk's department

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because I think the some of our roads
are in much greater need of more

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resources than our clerk's department.
>> Okay. Sorry. Sorry, Jess.

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» Any other any other comments on the
report? I'm just wondering whether we

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not we would be wise to add Mr. Sturgis'
issue to our list. Um so that it it

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remains top of mind and and I don't mind
moving that. Um we've traditionally had

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a mover and a seconder for the addition
of an item to that list.

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Uh, I'm not clear if it needs to be
there because it's already been stated

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by the CEO that he's going to take
action. So, I'm not sure. I mean, if if

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there's something that comes out of the
conversation from the CEO and others

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that needs to be addressed, I'm sure it
will be taken to staff. I don't know

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that we need to necessarily add it to
that list. Okay,

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» I'm I'm fine with that, but I just
wanted to put it on record that it's not

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something we should
>> we should lose track of and and part of

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the purpose of the list is to make
certain we don't lose track of things.

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» Well, to [clears throat] me, and we've
talked about this already, to me, the

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most important line in this is that the
clerk's department feels that they're

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underst staffed and they're going to be
asking for more help. And I think we

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should all be cognizant of that. Um
that's a uh uh once the new term of

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council establishes priorities with
respect to the unfinished measures,

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staff will include the ant anticipated
impact as part of the 2027 budget

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deliberations. And this to me is an
important uh uh idea. Um, I think we've

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felt that this was on the on the edges
despite the fact there's other things as

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well, but that the clerk's department
was having a problem with with dealing

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with this list and they're looking for
some way to to deal with it more

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promptly, which I think we could all be
pleased with.

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» Yeah,
I I don't blame you for drawing our

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attention to the fact that there's a lot
of work on that list that is uh uh

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referable to the uh clerk's department.
Okay. Next uh item on the uh

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the um agenda is a um climate action
committee uh resolution of advice. I'm

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going to read the motion and then uh we
can debate it. Motion reads as follows.

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That council receives the climate action
committee resolution of advice dated

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September 14th, 2026 regarding the
Greenfest funding request. And the

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council approves the request to take uh
$1,150

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from the climate change environmental
budget reserve contribution corporate

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action plan section of the 2026 budget
and that further any net proceeds of the

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greenfest event will go back uh to the
climate change environmental budget

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reserve contribution corporate action
plan. Do I have a mover for that?

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» Okay. Um, deputy mayor moves, seconded
by councelor capes. Discussion.

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» Can I just say
>> although it's not part of the motion, I

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think Ralph, we can report that the
discussion of the climate action

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committee, there's a very strong feeling
that that we're going to be charging

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some of the vendors fees and we're going
to be earning some money in other

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places. We've already had one offer of a
donation. So, I think the the request

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here is for a thou $1,150 from that
reserve. I have strong expectations that

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in fact we're going to break even and
maybe even have a surplus the so that

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that should be noted in the discussion.
>> Any other questions, comments on this?

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I've been running into a number of
people who are very excited about this

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event and in particular uh people from
the farm community. I I'm very

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optimistic that this is going to be a
great day.

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Any other questions? I'll call the vote.
Uh, any opposed?

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Seeing none, the motion carries.

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Okay, that takes us to the Cardinal
Woods drinking water system annual

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inspection report.
And uh, Matt, would you like to take us

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through this?
>> Sure. Thanks, Mayor Coleman. U, so

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overall, another good report. Uh uh we
got a 9 about a 95% score. Um similar

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challenges as the the island lake
report. Um the one sample we took or the

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operations took was about 30 minutes too
soon. [laughter]

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Anyway, it gets noted. Um what's
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compliance uh of the sampling of the raw
water compliance primary and secondary

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disinfection of the equipment compliance
of the primary and secondary equipment

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analyzers were all in place and in
conformance all microbi microbiological

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samples were uh taken well above what
was required. So again um although

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there's a couple hiccups there with
operators um we are still producing

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really good uh quality water.
questions. Uh Fred,

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» I I think Matt knows what I'm going to
say. Uh and for the for the sake of I

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I'm very concerned that we have two
non-compliance issues again. Okay. And

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I've I've been on council for 16 years
and in most of those years, we've had

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some non-compliance issues with our
operator of our drinking water systems.

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Just just so the public understands,
these non-compliance things are very

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minor. There there's no problem with the
water. It's just either the paperwork

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isn't getting done properly or the
samples aren't being taken done when

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they should. They're minor things, but
[snorts] Matt, it disturbs me that we

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continuously have this problem with our
operator. I I just want to say that by

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by the way, the law requires us to to
ask these questions. That's why I have

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to do it every year. Matt, uh we don't
have to be experts on drinking water

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systems, but we do have to read these
reports and ask questions if there are

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issues. So, that's why I'm doing it.
Yeah, thanks

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Meinda. [clears throat]
>> Thanks very much. Thanks for the the

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report and the summary, Matt. But, uh,
Deputy Mayor, they he did say that the

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00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:54,159
samples were taken. It was 30 minutes
too soon. So, it's not like it's not

408
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:58,000
like stuff doesn't doesn't isn't
happening. And so, why are they because

409
00:32:56,399 --> 00:33:02,640
it does on the say on the face of it,
it's every report has a couple of little

410
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:08,880
little blips in it. But, I think 95 is a
is is good. there's never been any uh

411
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,080
indication that our water is not. So I
think I think yes we have to ask the

412
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,080
questions but we also have to you know
listen to listen to the answer that we

413
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:21,519
got before we asked the question that
that the wa they're doing a good job why

414
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:25,360
they why they I don't know their clock
is off like the the same thing happened

415
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,799
on the other one that it was it was a
little bit too late as opposed to too

416
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:33,519
early.
>> Yeah. Thank thanks Council Dy. So

417
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,080
there's a lot of issu things that could
come into play. Like they're they're

418
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:39,360
being pulled. It's not everything
doesn't run like clockwork every day for

419
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,880
the operators. They're being they're
going from one spot to the next and it's

420
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,399
a challenge to be doing that. There's
new operators. There's training. There's

421
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,919
always SOPs. Like there's a lot of
things to be cross, a lot of tees to be

422
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:55,039
crossed, and a lot of eyes to be dotted
regularly. The amount of work that the

423
00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:58,880
town of Orangeville operators and and
management staff contributed to the

424
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:04,640
header upgrades that are currently being
wrapped up was unbelievable. Like the

425
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:11,040
the assistance there and in getting the
ministry satisfied with that. And uh I I

426
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:14,560
spoke with Marth Martha, our uh MEC
inspector, and she was, you know, she

427
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:19,520
was happy with the with the
collaboration there and uh and the

428
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:22,560
being upfront and honest with her and
and trying to work with these reports

429
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,520
and try [clears throat] to get better.
Right. We're going to we've set

430
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,599
reminders in the calendar to follow up
with Orangeville for the SOPs that she

431
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:34,159
identified and uh this is constant
communication and I'm I'm pretty happy

432
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:40,399
with the relationship there. So,
>> thank you. Out of out of curiosity, um

433
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:45,839
Matt, uh does Orangeville itself get uh
uh reports that have one or two very

434
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:49,040
minor things such as the ones that we
get.

435
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:54,399
» Thanks, Mel Corman. Uh yeah, so they
they they do um I think they had an AWQI

436
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:58,240
in the last one. That's all public
documents. Uh they're available and I

437
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:05,520
encourage council to read all the
Orangeville reports as well because they

438
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:10,160
are online. But yeah, it also
other other municipalities, right? See

439
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,520
the report, compare them. You know,
there's I don't doubt that there's

440
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,800
issues in other uh drinking water
systems that come up from time to time.

441
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:20,960
Some are more severe than others, I
imagine. Um but I would say we take

442
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:27,280
great pride in our systems and
Orangeville does as well and they do a

443
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:31,280
great job for us. Um but yeah,
thank you. Any other questions or

444
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:36,160
comments before I read the motion? So, I
have a motion that council for the town

445
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:40,560
of Mona receive the 2026 2027 Cardinal
Woods drinking water system inspection

446
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:44,960
report and that the town continue its
commitment to transparency by making

447
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:50,240
these reports publicly available on the
town's website and at town hall ensuring

448
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:54,160
residents have ongoing access to
information regarding the safety and

449
00:35:52,160 --> 00:36:00,400
reliability of the drinking water
systems. Uh, councelor Capes moves

450
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:06,079
seconded by councelor Davey. Any further
discussion? Any opposed? And that motion

451
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:11,040
is carried.
And that takes us to the Orangeville

452
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:15,720
Fire Services Agreement. Who would like
to tackle that? Mike.

453
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:23,760
» Um, yeah. So, Les put together this
report for council and, uh, he's got it,

454
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,960
uh, he's got it pretty well explained
what happened. Uh 2026 was the end of

455
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:35,760
our uh our agreement with Orangeville
Fire and uh and they've offered a 1.04%

456
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:41,920
increase. Less has identified that the
uh current inflation is 2.4%. Um so Les

457
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:47,760
is recommending that we enter into this
one-year extension. Uh and it's a it's a

458
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:52,480
reasonable cost increase.
>> Thank you. Any questions of council?

459
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,240
» Thank Thank you, Mayor. So, I noticed
that this this same thing happened

460
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,440
before. So, because we it it'd be it'd
be interesting if we're going to it'd be

461
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,440
interesting if we're going to stay with
Orangeville Fire, which I think we are,

462
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:08,480
right? That's the main supporter
supplier of our fire services. And when

463
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,839
you talk about how many calls and and so
on, they're the biggest.

464
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,560
» It's definitely our southwest quadrant.
Southwest quadrant is controlled

465
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,079
increased population, right? So, we're
going to stay with them. And so it seems

466
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:26,000
to me that the reason for the one-year
extension is so that then we can have a

467
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:31,760
re relook at it all for then another
because this last one was 2019 to 2022

468
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,599
and then an extension in 2023 and then
comes to so it looks like there's like

469
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,440
why are we not asking for something
longer is my question when we finally

470
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:44,800
get going. I appreciate now why when
we're at the end of of a term to have

471
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:48,640
some to have a a council make a decision
going forward. I understand why you

472
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:55,359
wouldn't necessarily go for that, but
maybe shouldn't could the town ask for a

473
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:59,280
longer um uh agreement when the next
time so that it doesn't kind of need

474
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:03,599
these cuz it's artificial, right? He's
they've said they've said that it's a

475
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:09,520
1.4 and it's only a 1.0 basically,
right? A 1% for for a year. um which is

476
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:15,440
which is great, but is that really going
to be going forward for the larger

477
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:20,560
because all of our other all of our
other fire services are increasing a

478
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:26,079
whole lot more than 1% projected for
2027.

479
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:32,400
» Less any thoughts?
>> It's it's a fair comment. Um when it's a

480
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:38,720
low ball in one one year, it's going to
be a catchup for sure. Uh um this is

481
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:44,079
just my assumption. I think because the
election is in the way and they're

482
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:47,680
probably thinking maybe two new councils
uh come up with a new agreement and for

483
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:51,440
the next term.
Uh unfortunately it is you are correct

484
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,240
counselor at the end of the term perhaps
if this if Orangeville brought this to

485
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,160
our attention at the beginning of the
year we probably could have hammered

486
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:03,200
something out but uh because of the
election it kind of

487
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:06,480
kind of messes things up.
So, Les, I think I know the answer to

488
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:14,640
this question, but for the benefit of
anyone watching uh or or listening, um

489
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:22,560
when do the costs of their new fireh
hall get transferred or passed on to us

490
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:29,440
in hopefully in proportion
if at all? Are we are we currently

491
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:33,280
paying for their new hall or is that
what is that the penny that will drop

492
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:38,400
next year?
And if that's not a penny, [laughter]

493
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:42,640
» uh we're not paying for a new hall at
the moment, but it it is coming. You are

494
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:47,280
correct, Mr. Mayor.
>> Now, we do have in our development

495
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:51,119
charges we could use as a contribution
if there's a one-time hit

496
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:56,560
» on the budget. So, that's something to
keep in our back pocket.

497
00:39:52,880 --> 00:40:00,720
» Okay. Uh Mike and then Melinda.
>> Um your worship just further on that.

498
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,880
So, so the onetime fee that we do pay
would be for maintenance and capital,

499
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:09,200
right? So, that uh um so that's the way
that that agreement has been set up is

500
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:15,040
to cover off some of the capital. So, it
is in there. I don't know if it takes

501
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:19,440
into account the uh the cost increase
that uh that Orangeville has been going

502
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:24,560
through with respect to the design build
of this uh this new station. So I think

503
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:29,440
that's probably what they're uh what
they're hinting at here with respect to

504
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:35,200
renewing and looking at this agreement
uh in 2027 2028. Um they also do note

505
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:40,480
some collective bargaining agreements
that need to probably be redone too cuz

506
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:44,720
they run a union union shop, right? Um
so they're uh they're in a union with

507
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,960
respect to that. So, those are those are
things that they're probably trying to

508
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:54,520
get their head wrapped around before
they put a uh a long-term deal as

509
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,520
suggested by uh uh Councelor Davyy.

510
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,440
» Okay. Okay. I have a motion that we
introduce and give the necessary

511
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:03,920
readings to a bylaw to authorize the
town of Mono to execute an amending

512
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:07,680
agreement uh with the town of
Orangeville regarding fire protection

513
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:12,000
services substantially in the form as
attached as schedule A to the bylaw and

514
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,440
that be signed by the mayor and clerk
for the town of Mono sealed and

515
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:21,359
engrossed in the bylaw book. Moved by
councelor Davyy, seconded by councelor

516
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:27,599
Mike Dau. Uh any further discussion? Any
councelor Capes? Pardon me. Uh any uh

517
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:34,240
any further discussion? Seeing none, uh
the motion uh motion carries.

518
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:39,839
That takes us to
>> schedule a schedule A.

519
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,119
And to get that on the floor, I have a
motion that we accept schedule A to this

520
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:48,640
agenda and then we'll open it up.
Councelor Davey moves, seconded by

521
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:54,079
councelor Capes. Uh any
Let's uh open it up. Anyone submit

522
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,440
anything from schedule A that they want
to specifically address?

523
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,599
» I did not receive any.
>> Okay. So, let's let's go for it.

524
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,709
Anything on there?
>> No, I've always I always defer to you

525
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:08,800
for the first. No, you don't have any.
[laughter]

526
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:13,119
» Okay, I've got a couple.
>> Okay, go ahead.

527
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:20,079
» Um, the first one then these are just
comment ones, I think. Um the first one

528
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:25,280
on my list is number 12.
The um that the conservation is that

529
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:32,720
right? No, the first one is number
eight. Sorry. Sorry. Um the housing

530
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:38,520
um
what was this one about? I'm sorry.

531
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,520
» Accountability.

532
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:50,800
» Uh okay. Not nobody. This didn't ring
anybody else's bell for anything cuz I'm

533
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:55,920
not by right off the bat. I'm not uh
integrity integrity and train. Oh, yeah.

534
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:00,720
This was just this was was this the one
that was just a thought of why are we

535
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:05,200
needing
why are we needing to say all of this to

536
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:11,040
everybody and make it all of this
training? And didn't we already have

537
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:15,920
this? We have a We had training when I
started on council. We did have a whole

538
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,640
training with our um integrity
commissioner, did we not?

539
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,520
» Yes, I would assume that integrity
commissioner training was part of a new

540
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,599
council orientation,
>> right? It was an orientation at Monura

541
00:43:25,359 --> 00:43:32,240
Park. It was an all day thing. It was it
other other municipalities were involved

542
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:36,400
and so on. So my my question just
hanging out there is like are there

543
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:41,520
actual municipalities that are that are
functioning without this or is this all

544
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:48,560
just again you know forcing a hand to
make things happen to um spend more more

545
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:50,960
money on stuff was my take on it didn't
but nobody

546
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:56,640
» well if you can if you can roll it into
a um a a new council orientation that's

547
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:02,079
the time to do it and and I just can't
imagine that uh uh councils out there

548
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:05,920
aren't doing it. I mean
>> that that's what I thought. So So but at

549
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,599
any rate, there it is. There's the
letter that we all have to do something

550
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:14,319
more now and diff and perhaps different
though as I read all through the whole

551
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:17,200
thing and the the uh the link to their
their actual training idea. It was kind

552
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:22,480
of like this is what we've already done.
We we we we do this already. So thank

553
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:29,040
you very much. Um and then number 12,
the conservation um amalgamation

554
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:36,319
um letter from North Hiron. I just
thought, you know, it it uh it's

555
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:40,720
something new, but um isn't this already
a fedom plea? They're asking for it to

556
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:46,400
not happen. And isn't it already
happening? Like, is it worth endorsing

557
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:49,359
yet again something? No. Deputy mayor is
saying no.

558
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,960
» Your worship, I could answer that. I
think

559
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:57,200
» Okay, you are right. It's a fat comply.
and Credit Valley has also sent a motion

560
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:02,000
in a couple of months ago asking for a
slight change and forget it. There's

561
00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:04,800
it's it's a done deal,
>> right? So, we just have to do the best

562
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,640
with what we can when we're given an
opportunity to be involved, right? And

563
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,880
and uh on the way here today, I passed
by some signs saying there was a

564
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:15,839
volunteer event for the NVCA on uh on
Mono Center Road.

565
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,920
I might not like where they're doing it
or whatever, [laughter] but but I do

566
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:23,680
think that that to for us for us as
residents to get involved with that kind

567
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:29,040
of of activity that our conservation
authorities are doing. Um it it's uh

568
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:32,240
it's enlightening and and and um
informative and so on. And it really I

569
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,920
think makes a difference cuz we're going
to be a little pee in the huge big bed,

570
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,760
right?
>> The sign you saw, the NVCA will be

571
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:45,280
planting trees with volunteers on a
property that they own.

572
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:48,079
» That the NVCA owns. Okay. No, but Bruce
Trail loans, which I would argue Bruce

573
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Trail should be paying for that. But
anyway, the volunteers, I think it's a

574
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:57,359
good thing that that the volunteers.
>> Well, that's it. Volunt volunteers to be

575
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:01,440
to be a corporation and be asking for
volunteers. I think there's there are a

576
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:05,520
lot of places where volunteers could be
elsewhere, but that's just an aside. My

577
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:11,200
other my my last one
>> there's all kinds of corporate entities

578
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:15,040
who are part of volunteer duffren who
advertise there that they need

579
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,240
volunteers. So I understand
>> it's a good thing and it's probably

580
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:20,640
people who are members who are
volunteering.

581
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:27,680
» That's right. No, I understand. I
understand. Um uh and the last one was

582
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:31,200
the number 13.
Um

583
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:36,960
the
I'm I I was just saying to somebody the

584
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:42,400
other day about how the on our tax our
property taxes are based on 2016 and

585
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:47,359
that it should be updated and so it's
nice that that this letter is coming

586
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:53,680
forward, but I'm nervous because the
assertion that your actual taxes

587
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:59,599
wouldn't go up is a very large
assumption that so I was going to ask

588
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:04,640
less about So that's 8.13
or 8.13

589
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:11,880
uh less that was on my my list as well.
Uh tell us what happens when the um

590
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,880
unfreeze occurs.

591
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:19,040
» Well, as evidently will
>> the next reassessment is is a huge

592
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,400
challenge for the province as you can
imagine because they put it off too

593
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:26,640
long. They originally put it off because
of the pandemic which made sense. Uh and

594
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:32,160
then they couldn't get their act
together. Uh the with before this new

595
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:36,960
reassessment process that started
happening over the years uh assessments

596
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:43,280
were based like in the 50s and it was a
big process. Uh traditionally what Mono

597
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:50,160
has done uh the tax rate is a formula
assessment times the tax rate equals

598
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:54,800
your tax levy. So the tax levy we
generally we follow inflation or cost of

599
00:47:52,880 --> 00:48:01,440
inflation for the town. So you're
looking at CPI roughly. So our tax le

600
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:04,400
goes by 2%.
The assessment say it goes up now they

601
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,880
catch up on the assessment. Say it goes
up by 50. I'm just throwing numbers out.

602
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:14,800
Goes up by 50%.
Well now if you take that assessment

603
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:21,520
multiply the current tax rate. Well,
you're leving 50% more taxes. So, what

604
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Mono has done in past reassessments, we
reduce we reduce the tax rate because

605
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:32,960
the assessment it's a balancing. So, if
the assessment goes up by 50% as as an

606
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:39,520
example, your tax rate is not going up
by 50%. Because it is a formula and the

607
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:45,599
formula is your tax levy.
Yeah. So you're not taking advantage of

608
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:49,920
a of a of a a new assessment to to as
you say gouge people.

609
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:54,559
» Now now the implications Oh, sorry to
interrupt the premier. Now what does

610
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,760
happen in reassessment assessments
shift?

611
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:59,040
» Yes.
>> So certain types of homes will get

612
00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:04,079
assessed higher because they're in a
certain market bracket that sell better

613
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:08,640
than another type of home. There also
may be a shift between commercial and

614
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:12,400
residential. There are shifts within the
assessment, but you're not going to see

615
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,839
a huge tax rate increase.
>> And that was going to be my point that

616
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,960
yeah, the total tax levy can stay the
same and we just divide it by a

617
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:23,359
different assessment value, but there
are shifts. We don't know what they're

618
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,929
going to be. Hopefully, my house will go
down. [laughter]

619
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:34,000
» We all live in hope. Yeah.
>> Thank you. Thank you. So, so but I

620
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:37,680
understand that except that we all we
all know that one of the reasons why

621
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:43,040
we're in a pickle with respect is
because the cost of things have gone up.

622
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:49,119
They haven't frozen in 2016. The cost of
things have marched along and yet our

623
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:54,319
input has been struggled with and
increased more than than people would

624
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:58,960
like, but nowhere near what what it
should have or what it would be if you

625
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,680
if you all of a sudden took 2026 from I
mean 10 years, right? What was your

626
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:07,040
house worth 10 years ago? Just think
about what what is right. So how do you

627
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:11,440
come up like is it arbitrary? What's the
what's the formula that that makes makes

628
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,880
it so that when they do say your
assessment is because that's what they

629
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,880
want, right? I mean, it does make sense
that your assessment is what you can

630
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,800
then say to a realtor, this is what I'm
expecting to get when I sell when I sell

631
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:28,000
the house. But but it
>> Yes. But yes, but what I'm saying is in

632
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:32,000
principle it should. It should and the
fact that we have always thought that oh

633
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,359
it shouldn't is what they were trying to
fix back when they were doing it the

634
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:40,640
first time back when they were trying to
bring them up from the 50s that at least

635
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:47,680
that was that was what you just said. So
h how is it that we where's how does it

636
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:53,920
get figured out? Okay. So the to figure
out you go backwards because you usually

637
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:59,839
ask in school what's 2 * 3? six. Well,
the with the tax rate, we start off with

638
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:06,800
six.
Okay, that the answer is six. What's the

639
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:10,960
assessment? The assessment goes up. Take
that assessment value. How you take that

640
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:15,760
assessment value and get to six. So, the
tax rate currently would give us a

641
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:20,319
bigger number than six. So, the tax rate
then comes down to get to six. So, that

642
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:25,520
that that's the formula. You start with
the answer. what is the tax levy that we

643
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:29,839
need to to operate in you know in 20
whatever year it's going to be. So then

644
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,880
the assessment or the tax rate has to
come down,

645
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,400
» right? So that and that's what we do
every year while we're you come. You

646
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,680
come and you say that in order to pay
make pay the roads and fix the culverts

647
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,359
and do all the things we need to do.
This is the amount of money that we need

648
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:48,800
and the council says this is far too
much to ask of our residents. So um

649
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:52,319
let's do let's do 8% instead of 15.
That's what we ended up with this year.

650
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:58,400
And the year before it was let's do 6%
instead of 13. And so, um, that's when

651
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,960
you do the math. Okay. Thank you very
much,

652
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:06,079
» uh, Ralph. And then, uh, Elaine,
>> I think this is a good idea, this

653
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:09,079
letter. The longer we put this off, the
Sorry.

654
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,880
» Thank you. Uh, the longer we put this
off, the harder it's going to be to deal

655
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,559
with it. And I think the government
should get their act together and

656
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:22,000
restore the regular property assessments
as requested here. And I think this is

657
00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:25,200
something that we as a town should
support.

658
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:28,240
Would you like to move a motion to that
effect or have have us send a letter of

659
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,480
support?
>> Yes, I'd like to move a motion to uh

660
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:36,480
send a letter of support from the
Talimono for the call to

661
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:41,359
» I don't know that we need a motion per
se. I misspoke. But uh Jessica, can we

662
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:48,319
» through you chair? Uh we wouldn't
recommend um endorsing this resolution

663
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:53,599
as we're not familiar with Ryan Ulc the
company bringing forward the resolution

664
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:57,920
of support. Um, if council would like to
see a resolution of support on a

665
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:00,640
following agenda, we can bring one
forward. Yeah.

666
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,400
» Unless a council member would like to do
it under a notice of motion.

667
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:09,599
» Mhm.
>> Could you clarify that if this had been

668
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:13,680
a municipality that come with this um
resolution of support um to restore

669
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,800
property assessments, you'd be
comfortable with it, but you're not

670
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:21,520
because it's a private entity.
>> Correct. Okay. I I understand that. I

671
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:25,680
think uh yeah, I'd support that. we come
if you come forward with a resolution at

672
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,960
the next or subsequent meeting I'd be
quite happy with that

673
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,839
» Elaine
>> it's one of those be careful what you

674
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:40,000
ask for
>> or wish for um I read that and went

675
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:44,400
great but who are they
I I would rather this come from the

676
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:49,280
ministry
at whatever time is ready when they know

677
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:53,280
what they're going to do and and so to
say that a properties are not being

678
00:53:51,119 --> 00:54:01,839
reassessed. They are. Every time a house
sells, that new value gets on the uh

679
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:07,599
impact listing. So things get updated as
properties turn over. So it's not like,

680
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:10,160
oh, less is going to tell me I'm wrong.
>> Um, [laughter]

681
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,240
» is that not happening anymore?
>> What they do is they take whatever your

682
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:21,160
current value is and they go through
some calcul. They have a formula. What

683
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,160
would have it been in 2016?

684
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:29,200
So they don't adjust it.
>> No, they adjust it but the 2016 values

685
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:32,720
» for example,
>> they adjust backwards

686
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,720
» because everything has to be based on
the same base.

687
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,359
» So
>> at the same level,

688
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:44,160
so say your house is worth million
dollars in 2016.

689
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:48,960
» If it was worth 500,000, that same
house, they bring it back to 500. That's

690
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,400
just to keep the assessment value at the
same rate for everybody. It treats

691
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:57,599
everybody equally.
>> So that's that's the issue is when they

692
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:01,680
come to do the reassessment, everybody
now has to get updated.

693
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:06,240
» Oh, okay. So it's all still everybody's
at 2016, even those who sold and sold

694
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:10,400
and sold.
>> Wow. I I was told different. So that's

695
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:15,040
great to hear. Thank you.
That used to happen before we got to the

696
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:18,880
holding at the 2016. But surely in
today's world where they have

697
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,160
electronics,
they could arbitrarily pick, well, we're

698
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:26,559
not going to do 2016. We're going to do
2020 dates. And you, right, you would

699
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:30,079
hope that that would at least limit your
number of how many millions of houses

700
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:34,400
you need to look at.
>> Crazy crazy work.

701
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:41,200
» Mike, did you have your hand up?
>> I did. Um I'm I'm I'm

702
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:47,119
a little area as to respect uh to the uh
the author of this uh of this writer tax

703
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:52,559
consultant and a real estate agent who
generally would work on commission. Um,

704
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:56,319
so, so I'm not sure the I think
councelor Mdalo has spelled it out

705
00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:01,280
pretty clear that, uh, if it was a
municipality that we were dealing with,

706
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:07,079
uh, um, that's fine. But, uh, I I don't
have any recommendation for council to

707
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,079
proceed any further with this.

708
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:11,839
» I only brought it up not cuz I was going
to, and I know that, um, councelor

709
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:15,599
Magdalo said he wanted to support it. I
only brought this up for discussion for

710
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:20,079
our residents so that if you're watching
this, we're aware because the whole

711
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,799
budget discussion and taxes, it's the
big thing. Knock on a door. That is what

712
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:27,119
everybody wants. You going to keep my
taxes down? That is the big question.

713
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:32,240
It's all about money. And so this one at
least lays out for the discussion of,

714
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:37,440
wow, it's still your 2016 value and so
on. So, but um uh thanks for clarifying

715
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:41,280
who he who the person is that wrote it.
Well, and and it it has prompted a

716
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,240
discussion that I think demonstrates
that reassessment does not automatically

717
00:56:43,839 --> 00:56:51,040
mean tax increases.
>> Uh and I think that's an important

718
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:56,880
message to get out there. And also the
issue of of the sale of a property does

719
00:56:53,520 --> 00:57:02,559
not automatically mean uh an increase in
the assessed value simply because it

720
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:09,680
sold at you know five times what it was
previously assessed at. Am I correct in

721
00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:12,640
that Buzz? Yes, you are, Mr. Mayor.
>> Good discussion. Anything else for

722
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:20,079
Linda?
>> Okay, anything?

723
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:23,200
» No, I I'm a bit concerned by suggestion.
>> Concerned by your suggestion, Mike. I

724
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:26,960
think everybody knows that we have to
change the assessment. We can't be

725
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:32,640
basing basing things on an assessment
value that was 10 years old. It has to

726
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:37,280
be it has to be brought up to date. And
um I don't know why the uh uh pro

727
00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:45,240
province is dragging their feet on this
and I don't mind giving them a little

728
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:45,240
urge uh to uh to get up to date

729
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:53,040
and I I think some of us would would
like to think about that because usually

730
00:57:50,079 --> 00:58:00,079
when you give them a little urge uh on
anything they mess it up.

731
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:02,000
» Any uh u Fred anything on
>> No, I'm fine. Thanks.

732
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,280
» Okay. Uh,
>> no.

733
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:11,520
» Elaine, I have I have a uh one and
that's the resolution from the town of

734
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:13,680
Perry Sound with request uh of um
escooters.

735
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:22,319
Oh,
>> and this is a hot topic in uh in the um

736
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:29,520
in parts of Mono. Um and uh it has gone
a little bit crazy and I get asked why

737
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:36,000
don't we opt into the province's ecooter
pilot program

738
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:41,920
and I think there's I think there's a um
a sense out there that um uh this pilot

739
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:47,119
program is not working terribly well. uh
a very small number of municipalities

740
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:51,680
have bought into it. Shelurn recently um
turned down uh entering into it, but we

741
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:58,640
were told something really interesting
at the Police Services Board, and that

742
00:58:53,599 --> 00:59:03,200
is ecooters are not recognized at all
under the Highway Traffic Act. They

743
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:09,119
aren't there's no definition. There's no
recognition of of uh their existence. So

744
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:15,359
the police are taking the position that
they can't charge anyone

745
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:23,200
uh who is not wearing a helmet uh under
the uh age of 16. Uh and uh they they

746
00:59:20,799 --> 00:59:28,079
just they they feel their hands are tied
because the act itself which would be

747
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:34,000
their charging vehicle uh makes no
mention. Now the interesting thing is

748
00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:40,799
that if you enter into the e scooter
pilot program that does give the uh

749
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:46,160
police the option of charging under the
highway traffic act.

750
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:51,680
However, again it's ridiculous. I think
that people can ride these things uh

751
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:58,640
without a helmet uh over a certain age.
Um, and the other pressure that the

752
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:03,520
pilot program puts you under is is bylaw
enforcement in terms of sidewalks.

753
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:08,720
And the police are not going to police
sidewalks. They'll police roads, but not

754
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:14,319
sidewalks. So, this thing is a complete
mess is I guess bottom line. Complete

755
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:18,319
utter mess.
Well, thanks for bringing what what

756
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:25,119
happens at the at the uh police meeting
because the police social campaign has

757
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:29,440
been very clear to say that they're all
illegal. They can't be on any private

758
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:37,680
pro they can't be on any public property
anywhere and um and and unless you you

759
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:41,680
did opt in to unless your town did opt
in and that no towns are opted in and so

760
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:45,920
they are completely illegal. So, are
they pulling all of that social

761
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:51,200
campaign? I wonder.
>> No, I think they their their use of the

762
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:58,319
word illegal is to say that there is
nothing in legislative framework that

763
01:00:54,319 --> 01:01:04,319
allows them to uh to address it uh apart
from opting into the program. Um and and

764
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:08,799
therefore in the absence of a definition
in the Highway Traffic Act and

765
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:15,119
provisions of the Highway Traffic Act
that address uh things like helmets and

766
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:21,839
and and speed and so forth,
it it it's it's illegal in the sense

767
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:25,520
that they they would be wrong to pre
press charges because they would not

768
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:30,000
they would not see the the light of day
in a in a court. So they're they're

769
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:37,119
using the word illegal in the broadest
sense of of saying um they're not

770
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:41,440
permitted.
>> There's no allowance for them.

771
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,640
» Okay. Right. So that that that's very
interesting then

772
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:48,319
» cuz it Yeah. Because it gives a it
conotes a different

773
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:53,440
» Yeah. I I mean I I think their use of
the word illegal is they they would be

774
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:59,520
far better to say to the government as I
think municipalities ultimately will

775
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:05,839
bring these devices under the Highway
Traffic Act full stop period. And and I

776
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:11,920
mean right now there's more in the
Highway Traffic Act to deal with people

777
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:17,599
on conventional bicycles than there is
e- scooters which is incredible.

778
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:21,680
Can I just also you when you commented
that you've been hearing questions about

779
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,799
how come we didn't embrace the the um
pilot and and let everybody who's

780
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:28,240
purchased these go around and
everything. I think the answer is that

781
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:30,720
they're they're they're unsafe. People
are

782
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,680
» being injured left, right, and center
and some dying, right? And so why would

783
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:38,400
why would a municipality say yay to
something that is uh that's clearly

784
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:40,880
unsafe for the residents?
>> Jessica,

785
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:45,638
» uh through you, Mr. Chair, I just wanted
to remind council that we dealt with or

786
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:49,680
council dealt with uh escooters and
[clears throat] councelor Cape's

787
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,880
resolution at the August 25th, 2026
council meeting.

788
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,640
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

789
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:59,280
» Yeah. Anyways, I I think it was it was
worth raising in light of the uh

790
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:04,880
resolution from uh from that
municipality and uh you know the growing

791
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:10,640
concerns that I'm hearing um out there
and the the actions of the town of

792
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:15,039
Shelurn. I think speak volume.
Okay. So I have a motion on the floor to

793
01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:20,079
accept schedule A. Do I have a mover to
that? Councelor Cape seconded by

794
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:25,359
councelor Davyy. Any opposed? Motion is
carried.

795
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:29,760
And that takes us to uh reports of
members of council. Who wants to go

796
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:33,520
first?
Uh Fred.

797
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:39,520
» Yeah. The only thing I have to report is
that uh the county had arranged a tour

798
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:43,920
of Duffren Oaks long-term care home in
Shelurn, which I went to

799
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:48,160
couple of days ago. I'd never been
inside the building before. Um in fact,

800
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:52,799
not being a resident, I you actually
can't get through the front door. Um, so

801
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:57,119
I I I just wanted to report the reason
they organized the tour is being on

802
01:03:55,039 --> 01:04:04,240
county council, you in effect are a
director of that of that facility and it

803
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:09,680
was really worthwhile going that that is
that that is an amazing building. Uh the

804
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:12,640
the I I I guess what really struck me
because we have other long-term care

805
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,319
homes in Orangeville and the government
sets the amount you can charge for that.

806
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:21,839
It sets the amount of hours you have to
spend per p per resident. So, it's it's

807
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:27,440
really controlled and some long-term
care homes do it on a for-profit basis.

808
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:31,599
And in the case of Duffren Oaks, uh we
actually put about $5 million of

809
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:36,319
taxpayer money into it to run it. So,
we're not doing we're not doing it on a

810
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,640
a profit basis. Well, I understand why
now after seeing [clears throat] that

811
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:43,880
building and the care they take of their
residents. It really is a magnificent

812
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,880
facility.

813
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:56,160
Um, thank you very much, Mayor. So, uh,
there was a Rosemont Fire Board um,

814
01:04:53,680 --> 01:05:02,880
meeting this past this week. No, yes,
what are we? Tuesday. last at the end of

815
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:11,599
last week and we passed the um budget uh
draft budget for 2027 and with a so with

816
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:16,799
um operating and capital budgets there
will be an increase for the town of Mono

817
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:23,680
of about 7.7%
coming which makes a total it's a total

818
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:29,680
of 140 well 148,000 to contribute to the
Rosemont Shelurn is having a meeting

819
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:34,240
next week where the budget will be uh
discussed. Orangeville, we've just um

820
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:39,200
talked about how much it's going to be
an increase and there's just uh the

821
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:45,200
unknown of Kaledan,
but everything's uh everything's

822
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:49,200
increasing. Um, we also I also had a uh
recreation advisory committee meeting

823
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:55,440
which was a um very interesting meeting
where we talked a lot about um what can

824
01:05:52,400 --> 01:06:02,319
we do to improve
um recreation in the community and we

825
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:06,960
also discussed the um the plan for who's
doing what for the Halloween party. So I

826
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:10,720
know it's the only the end not quite the
end of September but Halloween's coming.

827
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:15,280
So, if you've got any little kitties or
any any little grandchildren or

828
01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:19,760
neighbors or whatever, um don't miss out
on uh this event. At the end, we've got

829
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:26,079
big posters. You should see the find the
black and purple and orange posters

830
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:31,280
posted all sorts of places. Um and I
think that's it. I have a CDRC meeting

831
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:38,079
uh tomorrow. There's um the pool's
closed up, the re the rink is open. Um I

832
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:42,319
did just as a as an aside just to put it
out there for for a little snippet of

833
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:49,599
information for people. I did ask now
that now that the um complex for the

834
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:54,079
last year and a bit um has been well no
we were 26 for the last couple years um

835
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:58,400
we've been collecting electronic data
because we had do pay all the bills

836
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:01,520
electronically. You you sign up for
things electronically. We still have

837
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:06,319
some drop in where you can pay some
cash, but so there's some stuff still

838
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:10,880
not counted, but generally speaking, we
have the ability now electronically to

839
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:15,920
say, "So, you're a user. Where are you
from when you're coming to the complex?"

840
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:22,000
And it was very interesting. We had the
total numbers from 2024 to 2026 showed

841
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:26,000
that there were 1648 users from
Shelburn, which is, you know, a lot of

842
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:32,039
people over the two two and a half years
or whatever. And there were 66 from

843
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:32,039
Mono,

844
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:39,839
which is a telling number, I think, a
very telling number.

845
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:45,280
So, my vote would be to say, you know,
use it, we've got it. Uh, but I also

846
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:50,960
need to add the use it before we lose it
um situation because if I can see things

847
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:57,599
from the other angle now, when I get
that kind of information, you know. So,

848
01:07:53,760 --> 01:08:03,119
that's my report.
Yes, thank you your honor. Two items.

849
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:08,880
One is the um the pulinary garden has um
as you know established a a pergola with

850
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:14,880
the help from uh family and friends of
Laura Ryan and the town. Um this is um

851
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:20,400
has been almost completed. We're going
to have a plaque placed on it and

852
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:25,920
eventually a bench eventually uh some
roses that are going to go up the

853
01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:32,080
trelluses. Uh we'll have sort of a um a
an event surrounding this sometime like

854
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:38,560
likely in the late late fall. Um and
I'll give you a full report in when the

855
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:44,080
financial situation is all uh finalized
and I think it's going to be good. Uh

856
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:48,640
the u um what else? I had one other
thing.

857
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:52,560
Go ahead. It'll Oh, Greenfest.
Screenfest is coming up on the October

858
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:56,960
the 18th as Fred's mentioned there. Uh
this is really coming together very

859
01:08:54,000 --> 01:09:02,480
well. Uh we got a very gung-ho committee
subcommittee and the CAC itself is very

860
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:10,319
supportive. Um I think it's going to be
a really good um uh festival. Um and I

861
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:14,480
think the hopefully that the uh
aspirations are to provide useful

862
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:18,920
educational material to the people of
Mona that the these will be met.

863
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:34,799
So, yes, as Melinda mentioned, we had a
fireboard meeting. Uh the other thing

864
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:40,719
that um we had uh a little bit of an
update from our tech specialist up at

865
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:44,239
the fireh hall talking about because the
question is coming about what are the

866
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,239
2028
um

867
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:55,920
re-calibrated uh compliance uh
requirements for training. And so they

868
01:09:53,679 --> 01:10:00,320
explain there's three levels and there's
awareness, operating, and technical. And

869
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:05,040
so with all the other fire chiefs,
they're getting together to make sure

870
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:10,239
they have the technical training covered
for each topic like water and ropes and

871
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:14,560
confined spaces and things like that,
but that we're not duplicating that

872
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:22,560
across everywhere. So they're figuring
that all out. And um so they're figuring

873
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:27,199
out who does what. And
uh yeah, there's a new rescue truck that

874
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:33,360
we're going to be having to purchase
soon. And they did say that the 911 EMS

875
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:38,000
dispatch change has made a difference to
the calls that they get. So

876
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:42,159
that's interesting. And I guess we need
to make sure we keep connecting the

877
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:50,560
paramedics with the fire service so that
they each know what's happening.

878
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:54,480
Um, we also had a DEI meeting and there
will be some

879
01:10:52,560 --> 01:11:00,400
things coming forward to council, I
hope, before our term is done. And uh,

880
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:05,600
there is a pen hack meeting coming up to
deal with large rural homes so that we

881
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:10,480
can hopefully wrap that up. And I do
have to say, Ralph, that that pergola

882
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:13,920
was a very clever build because the
poles that are around the bottom of the

883
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:19,280
structure at the right height for me to
sit on. So I don't need a chair. So

884
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:23,120
thank you for that. [snorts] And the
green festival, I just wondered, did you

885
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:27,199
get a grant for that? One of the
festival grants

886
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:31,040
uh next year.
>> Yeah. Okay.

887
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:36,480
» I think Fred has mentioned it and I I
just support it. I think that um we we

888
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:41,280
didn't want to put in um expenses and
income because income is not there yet.

889
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:47,600
Well, I think $100 is there. Uh but uh
it's quite expected that we'll acquire

890
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:51,840
most of the expenses and cover them with
the income from the festival. And we're

891
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:56,880
not charging uh particip we're not
charging um uh people who come uh to

892
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:00,480
enjoy the festival. We're just charging
some of the participants. But I think

893
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:03,360
it'll probably cover the expenses pretty
well.

894
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:11,840
to consider.
>> Thank you. I don't think I've got

895
01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:15,360
anything to to report.
>> Police.

896
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:20,480
» I did. I mean that was the highlight of
of the uh of the police board meeting

897
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:25,760
was was the and and and you could have
heard a pin drop as the uh uh detachment

898
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:31,280
commander was explaining how their hands
are tied in terms of of uh of escooters

899
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:35,120
and and that they wish that that issue
was dealt with uh more appropriately.

900
01:12:33,835 --> 01:12:43,840
[snorts]
Okay. Um any notices of motion?

901
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:49,199
Okay. Seeing none, why don't we have a a
10-minute break and then we'll u go in

902
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:51,920
camera to address two matters. So, we'll
take a 10-minute

903
01:28:09,679 --> 01:28:13,159
We're back live.

904
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:24,400
» John, your mic.
I have a motion that council moves into

905
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:32,400
a close session pursuant to section 239
of the municipal act 2001 as amended at

906
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:38,080
10:28 a.m. or number one, Cedar Springs
Trailer Park, section 239, subsection 2,

907
01:28:35,679 --> 01:28:42,080
subsection E, litigation or potential
litigation including matters before

908
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:47,520
administrative tribunals affecting the
municipality or uh local board. And

909
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:53,280
number two, CAO performance review
section 239 subsection 2 subsection B

910
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:57,520
personnel matters about an individual
identifiable individual including

911
01:28:55,440 --> 01:29:02,000
municipal or local board employees. Do I
have a mover for this? Councelor Capes,

912
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:07,040
seconded by councelor Magdalo. Any
opposition? Motion carries. So we'll go

913
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:10,639
in camera.
>> We need to close that door.

914
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:14,719
» Does it matter?
>> The other one's closed.

915
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:18,040
» The one into the kitchen is closed.
>> Okay.

916
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,040
» Yeah.

917
03:17:42,319 --> 03:17:50,160
We are back live.
>> Thank you. And I have a motion that we

918
03:17:46,000 --> 03:17:56,319
rise from an inc camera session at 12:17
p.m. Mover Councelor Cape, seconded by

919
03:17:53,840 --> 03:18:00,239
Councelor Magdalo. Any opposition?
Seeing none, motion passes. I have a

920
03:17:58,880 --> 03:18:04,160
motion that we introduce and give the
necessary readings to a bylaw to confirm

921
03:18:02,080 --> 03:18:11,040
the proceedings of council of the town
of Mono in session 15 uh 2026 held on

922
03:18:07,600 --> 03:18:14,960
the 22nd of September 2026 that it be
signed by the mayor and clerk sealed and

923
03:18:12,960 --> 03:18:20,960
engrossed in the bylaw book. Councelor
Capes moves. Councelor Davey seconds.

924
03:18:17,359 --> 03:18:25,920
Any opposition? Seeing none passes. Uh
finally, I have a motion that we adjourn

925
03:18:22,640 --> 03:18:31,200
this meeting at 12:18 p.m. uh to meet
again for a regular council meeting on

926
03:18:28,080 --> 03:18:36,479
October 6, 2026 or at the call of the
chair. Moved by deputy mayor, second by

927
03:18:33,840 --> 03:18:42,479
uh uh councelor Magdalo. Any opposition?
Seeing none, motion passes.

928
03:18:39,279 --> 03:18:42,479
Thank you everyone.