1 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:42,320 All right, can we begin with Commissioner Murphy leading us in the pledge? 2 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,040 All 3 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:04,720 right, do we have any additions, corrections or deletions? 4 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:15,990 All right, yeah, I'm going to call the first item for the agenda first. 5 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:17,530 All right, sorry. 6 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:19,190 I'll approve. 7 00:12:19,470 --> 00:12:20,590 You're going to get through this. 8 00:12:20,690 --> 00:12:24,050 I'll get the motion in a second. 9 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:25,730 Any objection hearing? 10 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:26,670 No motion carries. 11 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:28,590 All right, now you can. 12 00:12:29,010 --> 00:12:29,370 Sorry. 13 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:33,170 I didn't be one on page two. 14 00:12:33,170 --> 00:12:39,650 A public hearing to consider amendments to ordinance number 26-2020, amended mass ordinance 15 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:47,770 adopt August 19 2020, and ordinance number 27-2020, bar risk front closures, alcohol sales 16 00:12:47,770 --> 00:12:54,130 ban, extended following, lots of many seasons as adopted August 19 2020, and response to 17 00:12:54,130 --> 00:13:00,530 COVID-19 pandemic. So these two items are on just as periodic to check back 18 00:13:00,530 --> 00:13:06,710 to see if we need to make any changes. I don't have any recommendations to the mask ordinance right now. 19 00:13:07,290 --> 00:13:13,770 I would note that the bar restaurant closure ordinance technically laps last night at 11 o'clock. 20 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:20,370 So the question is, do we want to go back and revive it or leave it lapsed? 21 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:30,460 Mr. Coldire. Thank you. I would like for us to let it laps and light up the fact that our numbers 22 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:36,300 have decreased and in light of the fact that we're here today to have a budget hearing where 23 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:41,700 we're going to be taxing our citizens and our businesses. I feel like if there's any way we 24 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:48,460 can let our businesses stay open in extra few hours, we should do that. So I would make a motion 25 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:57,480 if you need a motion to let the curfew laps. Ironically, since it laps by operational all last night, 26 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:04,650 No actions needed if you want to leave it laps. The only thing you would need a motion for is if there was an intent to revive it. 27 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,220 Well, that I stand down. 28 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:12,200 Madam Mayor. 29 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,620 Yes, Commissioner Cates. 30 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:18,760 Yes, I would also like to let the laps I agree with Commissioner Coldarn. 31 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,460 Anyone else? 32 00:14:26,730 --> 00:14:32,810 I guess I have a slightly different perspective given that school just started and we just came off of a 33 00:14:32,810 --> 00:14:36,210 Labor Day weekend and 34 00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:43,950 hearing that knowing the bars aren't open anyway, and that's the 35 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:48,810 governors order, and that the reason that we instituted this was because, essentially, 36 00:14:48,950 --> 00:14:53,930 restaurants where we're coming to Pacto bars after midnight, and, you know, now the 37 00:14:53,930 --> 00:14:55,890 restaurants can remain open till midnight. 38 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,880 I'm convinced that it's time for us to do it yet. I understand that yes, our infection rates seem to have fallen. 39 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:15,920 But I'm not hearing from our health department that this is the time to make those kinds of changes, tweaks perhaps. 40 00:15:16,420 --> 00:15:18,840 But I maybe all consider this a tweak. 41 00:15:21,700 --> 00:15:26,100 But I feel like the reason that our numbers have lapsed was because of the action we've taken. 42 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:30,700 And so why should we take our product gas right now? 43 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:31,580 I agree. 44 00:15:33,020 --> 00:15:39,060 You know, I have, I've asked for a fast to take a look at some of our sales numbers, our 45 00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:46,120 sales tax numbers that late in the evening, I'm not sure how, and it's going to be tough 46 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:46,960 to get those. 47 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:55,060 I can tell you that I was looking at our hotel today numbers and yeah, our occupancy 48 00:15:55,060 --> 00:16:01,960 is down. What was interesting to me for the keys is that our ADR is however up by about an average 49 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:09,720 of 10 bucks a night for room. And the softness that we're seeing is not unique to the keys. 50 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:11,640 It's everything. 51 00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:21,170 So I guess Commissioner Murphy would, or Commissioner Rice, you haven't 52 00:16:21,170 --> 00:16:25,370 weighed in here. Commissioner Murphy, do you want it? Would you make a motion, would you want to 53 00:16:25,370 --> 00:16:30,370 make a motion to continue to help a hall sales between midnight and 7 a.m. 54 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:33,310 Well make that motion yet. 55 00:16:33,490 --> 00:16:38,390 So is your motion just the alcohol sales or the restaurant closure as well? 56 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:40,530 I think both. 57 00:16:40,910 --> 00:16:43,510 I don't think it's time to loosen up on anything. 58 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:49,040 Commissioner Rice is not your silent. 59 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:50,900 I guess I will second that. 60 00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:51,020 Or 61 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,580 want to call the roll please, Pam. 62 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Mayer, just to be clear, are you going to also provide a sunset date for that? 63 00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:09,760 Yeah, I think we should look at it again. Let's say, and let's see, we have September 16th. 64 00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:12,060 It's just a week away. 65 00:17:12,980 --> 00:17:15,580 When's our next meeting after that? 66 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,600 October 21st. 67 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:24,380 21st. 68 00:17:24,420 --> 00:17:25,880 Can I say something? 69 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:34,720 I just asked the commission to let this sunset because these businesses are struggling. 70 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:42,880 Business is very slow that it's not going to be that busy there, but every little bit helps when you're closed down. 71 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:54,600 If we go back 20 days with our infection rates, there's only 102 infections in all of Monroe County with 79,000 people. 72 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,960 So I think we flattened the curve, that's what we were supposed to do. 73 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:03,560 We had one infection rate today, single digits for the last couple of weeks. 74 00:18:04,220 --> 00:18:11,400 I just asked that you, please let these people operate their businesses as a minimum, as it is, they're just struggling to survive. 75 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,540 So that's what I ask. 76 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:19,440 Commissioner Kates, I just, do you have any information about how much business a restaurant does between midnight and 7am? 77 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:24,740 I don't have that, but I know that a lot of them, that's when they do their business, 78 00:18:24,860 --> 00:18:29,160 people work late, they get off at 12 o'clock, then they're on their way home, they want 79 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,840 to stop and get something to eat, there's a lot of people that work those hours and then 80 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:39,440 that's their afternoon late, it may seem strange to us, but for a lot of people that is their 81 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:44,720 life style, so I don't think they should be punished if she causes their work late at night. 82 00:18:48,110 --> 00:18:55,210 And Mayor, I would just add that, I don't think that the crowd that would be utilizing 83 00:18:55,210 --> 00:19:00,670 the restaurants at night or the same crowd that are going to be going to grade school and 84 00:19:00,670 --> 00:19:03,310 the morning or sending their children off to school in the morning. 85 00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,930 So I don't think it's the same mix. 86 00:19:06,830 --> 00:19:13,950 So again, that's another reason why I feel it's, this isn't so much that we're changing 87 00:19:13,950 --> 00:19:20,110 any of our rules as much as we're tweaking and relaxing one that we put into place originally 88 00:19:20,110 --> 00:19:27,410 for many seasons because we were afraid of all of the people from other places coming here. 89 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:34,530 This is definitely our slow season. So I just feel like we've got to let our businesses get back 90 00:19:34,530 --> 00:19:43,890 normal. I agree. I hear what you're saying. I would just say that I think it's, I personally 91 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:51,630 know, people in the service industry who have kids who would be working those late nights 92 00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:59,630 and potentially coming into contact with the people who are caring and I mean schools are 93 00:19:59,630 --> 00:20:06,810 going to be back in session in person next week in our public schools and you know I feel 94 00:20:06,810 --> 00:20:15,490 like we need to let that happen and since around the world when schools have started to 95 00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:26,530 get back into session we've seen an uptick in cases I would be I'm reluctant for us to 96 00:20:26,530 --> 00:20:33,370 we're about to have in class in person session for schools, knowing that many of the kids, 97 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:38,770 their parents are working in those service industries. So they are getting up and sending them 98 00:20:38,770 --> 00:20:46,610 a school next day. So we have a motion and a second. Yeah, we, if there's public input, we need to 99 00:20:46,610 --> 00:20:54,590 have any. And I'm not sure if Gabe's request that people acknowledge they want to speak was heard. 100 00:20:54,590 --> 00:20:56,170 I don't know if he was muted or not. 101 00:20:56,350 --> 00:20:59,610 So, Gabe, do you want to do your spiel about public input again? 102 00:21:00,170 --> 00:21:01,030 Absolutely, we can. 103 00:21:01,690 --> 00:21:03,690 We're happy you can join us tonight for our board meeting. 104 00:21:04,090 --> 00:21:07,030 And as a friendly reminder, we've had a format change in tonight's meeting. 105 00:21:07,390 --> 00:21:09,730 While you may see chats from the host or the panel, 106 00:21:10,090 --> 00:21:11,390 a 10D chat has been disabled. 107 00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:15,970 The form of participation available to attendees is the raised hand feature. 108 00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:19,470 Or, you can also, if you're a participant by telephone, 109 00:21:19,790 --> 00:21:23,390 raise your hand by using star 9 to toggle your hand up and down. 110 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:31,190 Participants wishing to address the board on a specific item should use that raised hand feature to indicate their desire to speak while the item is being read 111 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:42,790 When the clerk is finished reading the item the last person to have raised their hand will be the last speaker each speaker will receive one turn of three minutes to speak or five minutes to speak as a representative of an organization and 112 00:21:42,790 --> 00:21:46,990 Additional time can be committed at the board's discretion. Thank you again for your attendance today 113 00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:57,950 Bob, before we ask for public input, do we have any opportunity to have any close sessions 114 00:21:58,710 --> 00:22:01,470 earlier than October 21st? 115 00:22:01,890 --> 00:22:07,250 We may, I'm not prepared to discuss that tonight, because I haven't looked at everybody's 116 00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:13,850 calendar, but yeah, sometime between September 16th and October 21st, I was thinking of holding 117 00:22:13,850 --> 00:22:18,830 of scheduling a live meeting so we could hold our close sessions. 118 00:22:19,050 --> 00:22:22,030 We've got seven of them that are pending out there. 119 00:22:22,990 --> 00:22:26,150 And then some of my need to hold sooner rather than later. 120 00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:28,590 Some of them can wait but the others can't. 121 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:34,830 And I guess I'm asking that and I'm going to ask Commissioner Murphy. 122 00:22:35,670 --> 00:22:42,350 I'm asking that because perhaps we could revisit this like two weeks after schools open 123 00:22:42,350 --> 00:22:48,750 like around September 28th or the first week in October instead instead of waiting till the 21st. 124 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:53,990 And I don't know if Mr. Murphy has any feelings about changing, amending her. 125 00:22:56,090 --> 00:23:00,430 No, no, Heather, I'm fine with the lending it. 126 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:08,330 It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we went back to this every two weeks. We don't have meetings that often, but if we did. 127 00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:17,730 because things change with the counts drastically in two weeks, depending on what's going on in the county. 128 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:24,830 I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's time to start loosening the rains just yet. 129 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:34,790 I would ask that if you're going to, if this does pass, if we keep it at least two weeks out so that we can do the adequate public noticing of the public hearing, 130 00:23:34,790 --> 00:23:37,750 which requires 10 days of publication and went to the hearing. 131 00:23:38,890 --> 00:23:45,870 So, especially since there won't be clearly there won't be a super majority in favor 132 00:23:45,870 --> 00:23:47,270 of this if it passes. 133 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:53,970 So, you need a super majority to wave those advertising requirements for public notice on a 134 00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:55,730 public hearing for hearing for an ordinance. 135 00:23:56,850 --> 00:24:02,070 So, September 28th would be two weeks after schools are in session. 136 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,820 So if we wanted to shoot for like a special meeting sometime that week? 137 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:14,520 Yeah, that would work for me. 138 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,880 I don't know about the mission emergency. 139 00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:17,280 It would work for me. 140 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,640 I would prefer to wait the whole month, but if it suits everybody to wait for two weeks. 141 00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:25,200 Well, she'll be shooting for October first. 142 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:26,860 Is that easier or September first? 143 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,180 Yeah. 144 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:33,580 If you make the motion to extend it to revive it and extend it to October first, then we can 145 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:40,120 Senate date certain on the 16th when we're everybody has their calendar and we can figure 146 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,920 out the best date to hold that. 147 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:44,780 Will you amend your motion? 148 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,260 Yes. 149 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Okay. 150 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:49,260 And I'll amend my second. 151 00:24:50,780 --> 00:24:58,440 So the motion is to sustain the closures we already had until October 1st. 152 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,180 Is there any public comment? 153 00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:06,980 There is one person with their handrails telephone participants, six, nine, six, 154 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:10,480 six. 155 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,720 Okay, telephone participants. 156 00:25:12,380 --> 00:25:16,260 This is your name and where you live. 157 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,400 You're on mute. 158 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,260 Five, four, one. 159 00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:21,340 There you go. 160 00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:25,240 Can you hear me now? 161 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,780 Yes, we can. 162 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,520 My name is Ashley and we own a restaurant in bar in P.S. 163 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:39,840 And we just wanted to reach out because we've watched these every time live and we're really, like, 164 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,340 Commissioner Kate said, we're in the most time of the year. 165 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,160 And we are most certainly struggling. 166 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:51,300 Before this curfew was put in place, we were able to get by and we were paying the bills. 167 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:57,300 But since then has stopped, we understand the concern and that, 168 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,440 you know, 169 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,880 But we understand the concerns and we were one of the ones trying to do it right we hired security 170 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:12,600 We put all measures in to make sure that social distancing was happening in masks were happening and then one other thing 171 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:19,360 I wanted to say that you know you mentioned that kids are going back to school and I understand that and there are service industry workers that have children 172 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,040 But there are also 173 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:30,340 Hospital workers and police force and everyone else has come into contact with people every day that are doing the same thing that have children going back to school 174 00:26:30,340 --> 00:26:36,160 So why are only servants and district people being punished for this for these children going back to school? 175 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,140 Well, I appreciate your comment. 176 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,060 Thank you very much. 177 00:26:42,620 --> 00:26:44,540 And this is a very difficult thing, 178 00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:52,980 but what prompted this in this first place was information 179 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:59,540 through the health department that we were seeing spread late at night when people have been 180 00:26:59,540 --> 00:27:13,680 And they're inhibitions start to slack and our less likely to socialize and that's when it seems to have spread and that's why I was started. 181 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:23,400 And I would also just remind everybody that the prohibition that's far being open is not local funding that's paid. 182 00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:31,800 And I appreciate the work that you all are doing and be responsible of your establishment. 183 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,820 The only thing I'll say and add to that is that we are serving primarily local after that time. 184 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:45,540 And what we're seeing truly before the 12 o'clock group view are even people are just on a mission at this point to get drunk or faster and earlier. 185 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:51,320 It doesn't stop people from mowing their inhibitions just because we say it's midnight or nine o'clock or eight o'clock. 186 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,240 they're just going to go out and do what they do, you know, we're just having trouble controlling 187 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,300 them now more than at nine than at midnight or two, which we were happy to do as long 188 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:04,400 as that meant we could serve our community and our locals. 189 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,020 Okay. 190 00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:06,060 Well, thank you very much. 191 00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:07,300 We appreciate your input. 192 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:12,580 I would just simply add that what we've done seems to be doing, what we've asked that 193 00:28:12,580 --> 00:28:18,640 to do, and it seems to be having the appropriate response, which is lowering our impression 194 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,240 rate. 195 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:23,620 So, Pam, will you call the roll please? 196 00:28:24,060 --> 00:28:26,220 Ms. Mia, I'm not sure if I want to speak. 197 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,860 You don't mean it. 198 00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:34,720 I didn't invite that way, so, what are you doing that to me, Kate? 199 00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:43,420 The truth is, we don't have a clue as to why our numbers are better. 200 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:53,680 And in great possibility, this is a seasonal issue, like many viruses are 201 00:28:53,680 --> 00:29:08,680 And we'll see a resurgence of it as we get closer to flu season, but we do have two variables that we're talking about changing at approximately the same time. 202 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,160 Kids are going back to school. I think we're all there prehensive about what that could mean. 203 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:19,560 We hope it won't, but we all know what it could mean. 204 00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:34,950 When we add to that, eliminating this restriction, we're really adding two variables at one time. 205 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:37,950 That does concern me a little bit. 206 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:44,770 But I think the primary thing is no matter what we do, we've got to be ready to pivot very quickly 207 00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:59,870 because if things start picking up and we start getting bad news, we're going to have to reinstate things that we believe we're working and we hope are working. 208 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:09,260 I would love to believe that our numbers are down because of all the precautions that people have been asked to take. 209 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,820 And in my heart, I believe that's made some difference, I really do. 210 00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:20,220 But I also know most people don't get flu in the middle of the summertime. 211 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,200 So we really don't know, we're still just as much as ever. 212 00:30:26,780 --> 00:30:34,180 doing the best things we know how to do. And I think if we get indicators that we need to do, 213 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:41,240 we need to change, then we need to be ready to do it quickly. And I would encourage us to think 214 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:49,080 that if we needed a special meeting, we could all be that inconvenience if necessary to do that. 215 00:30:50,980 --> 00:31:02,260 Thank you, I'll just say that yeah, people don't tend to get the flu at this time of year, but I can tell you that parents start getting sick when kids start going back to school. 216 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:08,680 So, Pam, we have a motion in the second. 217 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:10,740 Ms. Nian, Commissioner Cates. 218 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,340 Ms. Nian, Commissioner Colburn. 219 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600 No. Commissioner Murphy. 220 00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:19,480 Yes. Commissioner Rice. 221 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:20,840 No. 222 00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:24,000 Others. Yes. 223 00:31:26,220 --> 00:31:27,660 Can you take the fingers crossed, folks? 224 00:31:28,740 --> 00:31:28,960 Yep. 225 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,500 All right, next item, please, Pam. 226 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,860 Do you need to address the mask ordinance as well? 227 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:45,700 Unless anybody has any desires for changes, I have none to recommend at this time. 228 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,160 If no one has any desires to change, we can go on to the next item. 229 00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:54,890 Silence, go on to the next item. 230 00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:57,110 Okay, so that has also been said. 231 00:31:57,910 --> 00:31:57,970 Okay. 232 00:31:57,970 --> 00:31:59,210 No, no, no, no. 233 00:31:59,210 --> 00:32:00,470 The mask still in place. 234 00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:04,410 It's just the, the mask ordinance still in place. 235 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:07,230 Okay, thank you, Bob. 236 00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:14,010 Item C1 that on page 3 approval of Second Amendment to the task order of CPHE for the 237 00:32:14,010 --> 00:32:18,850 American County Sheriff's Office Administration Building and below evaluation and repair 238 00:32:18,850 --> 00:32:25,550 project in the amount of 33,680 dollars, the second amendment and instruction and administration 239 00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:26,550 services. 240 00:32:26,550 --> 00:32:28,030 Move approval. 241 00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:29,070 Second, 242 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:35,010 any public comment or any comment from staff? 243 00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:37,310 Do you know speakers in the public or their hands raised? 244 00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:40,450 Any objection? 245 00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:42,650 Motion carries. 246 00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:47,550 Next item is D1 County Administrator's budget updates. 247 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:55,330 I go back to new commissioners and everybody out there. 248 00:32:56,030 --> 00:33:04,090 Last week, we gave you a 22 page presentation on both the operating budget and the Apple 249 00:33:04,090 --> 00:33:04,710 budget. 250 00:33:05,390 --> 00:33:09,110 You asked us to look at the capital budget more carefully. 251 00:33:10,150 --> 00:33:13,870 The second meeting of three will have another meeting next week. 252 00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:18,710 So we figured we'd just concentrate on the capital budget this time around. 253 00:33:19,130 --> 00:33:24,070 So we've assembled a team that has basically runs the capital project that has everything 254 00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:31,650 to do with our project and we put a presentation together that I think will enhance the discussion. 255 00:33:33,070 --> 00:33:38,710 And so with that, I'm going to turn it over to Tina and she is going to do the presentation. 256 00:33:47,380 --> 00:34:02,370 Okay. Good evening, commissioners. So we're trying to get right into a discussion about the 257 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:07,910 revenues. And so we spoke about this last week, but for those people that may not have heard, 258 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:17,490 you'll see up there in the top. There's a box and it has Monroe County, the OCC, 259 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:25,670 involved. So these are the state estimates that they could out for the revenue. We will collect 260 00:34:25,670 --> 00:34:34,330 in this infrastructure sales tax. And as you can see in mold, the estimate for Monroe County 261 00:34:34,330 --> 00:34:45,870 B.O.C.C. next year is about $19.4 million. And if you look over on the left, there's the 262 00:34:45,870 --> 00:34:52,150 history of the infrastructure sales tax revenue. So down towards the bottom there, you'll see 263 00:34:52,150 --> 00:35:00,670 little yellow box, and you'll see that same $19.04 million there in 264 00:35:00,670 --> 00:35:06,430 21 that estimate comes from the state. And then you'll see in 2020 265 00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:12,770 rate above that and it's highlighted in blue, that is OMD's estimate of 266 00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:20,510 what we will get for 2020 this year, the current in revenue. So if you look 267 00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:27,750 above it, in 19, we got 29, no, I'm sorry, 23.6 million. 268 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:36,410 So the difference between that is $4 million in 20 and $4 million in 21. 269 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:45,510 So you can see here that we start the fiscal year 21, $8 million less 270 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:49,410 less than our normal years. 271 00:35:50,270 --> 00:36:01,190 The important thing for everybody to see here is that once we get through 21, this budget assumes 272 00:36:01,190 --> 00:36:02,610 a complete recurrent. 273 00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:18,730 It's that's up to 23.8 million and then in the out years 23, 24, 25, there's a very modest 2% per year increase. 274 00:36:19,690 --> 00:36:29,190 So the really important thing here for you to know is we will have to continue to watch this revenue and make adjustments later. 275 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:45,610 So it's really hurting us in a position where we could have to amend all the out years again and lower them if we do not feel that the revenues are going to bounce us right back. 276 00:36:45,610 --> 00:37:04,130 I just like you to keep that in mind when we start looking at adding things to the plan and what we should really be doing now is finishing up our major projects, finishing up for example the marathon library. 277 00:37:04,130 --> 00:37:07,190 the P.K. courthouse in jail. 278 00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:15,410 And so we really have to watch any additions we make to the budget. 279 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:26,330 So here we are. We're going to focus now on our three of four that infrastructure sales tax that we just looked at. 280 00:37:26,650 --> 00:37:33,750 And the commission said, OK, so are there projects we could delay or push out? 281 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:41,990 So we look at our projects as they are, and we don't have any kind of contractual obligation. 282 00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:48,590 So OMB here, we've come up with their in-gray. 283 00:37:49,330 --> 00:37:54,830 What we think we could push out if that was the commission's tie. 284 00:37:55,490 --> 00:38:00,850 And those items that we feel really could push out. 285 00:38:00,850 --> 00:38:11,190 If you wanted us to add up to four million dollars, so your entire 21 budget is the 11.4. 286 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:20,910 We've got almost 11 million in debt service, and then we have some other commitments 287 00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:24,490 transfers grant management that have already been applied. 288 00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:27,830 So we can go ahead and move on. 289 00:38:27,830 --> 00:38:42,950 This is the 102 portion, so the road we were discussing would either be funded from gas taxes, the 102 fund, or infrastructure sales tax, 290 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:52,190 Rio for fun, we just looked at and the one or two fun is at full capacity of projects right now. 291 00:38:53,610 --> 00:39:03,970 Judy Clark has gone over these and they're here based on her, you know, professional opinion on what the priorities are. 292 00:39:03,970 --> 00:39:09,630 and you know Judy has stated to us that public safety or 293 00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:16,830 good repairs are you know at the top of her priority list so we'll go on here. 294 00:39:16,990 --> 00:39:24,130 Wait, come back up a second. Yes, um the so when I see like sustainability 295 00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:31,250 roads and twin lake sand subdivision these figures only represent that portion of 296 00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:38,270 projects that would be funded by 102, or the total cost of those projects, because I thought 297 00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:45,440 we were looking at like, 12 or 13 million for twin-laced and sands together. 298 00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:47,480 Yes, you are correct. 299 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:54,640 So that's funding we kind of had in place there to get us to the point we're at now, planning 300 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,320 and engineering. 301 00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:58,500 We've also applied for grants for those projects. 302 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:08,440 you would have some match out there, so we just try to keep it alive, but based on our 303 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:17,960 economic condition and where we're at, I mean, there is no surplus funding. So, and 304 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,060 besides that, we need to talk about how we prioritize the projects. And I can do a better 305 00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:29,260 job at this every year I need to just let you know what's out there on the table. 306 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:35,220 I think it'll give you a better idea of what staff goes through when we try and pick what 307 00:40:35,220 --> 00:40:42,060 we fund first and also may have for others, you know, things come up throughout the years 308 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:43,980 from all the deferred maintenance we've done. 309 00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:51,220 We have, you know, elevators that break down or air conditioning units and so we then have 310 00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:57,140 trying and find a way to fit those in. So I'm going to pledge to you that I'm going to work on 311 00:40:57,140 --> 00:41:03,720 that every year. I'm going to go ahead and let you know all the work that we couldn't fit into 312 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:10,260 the plan. So let's go to the question page and this is where we kind of talk about it and I'm going 313 00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:18,920 to show you know how do we prioritize all of this work that we have out there. And this is the list of 314 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:25,580 of that work. So we have a, in our Jackson Square complex, we have a port house there, and it 315 00:41:25,580 --> 00:41:34,520 needs some work on the brick, because it leaks, constantly leaks. And so if we don't keep 316 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,600 up with that, that in turn causes other damage, you know, water is very damaging. So, you know, 317 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:47,240 you're looking at a million dollars for that. The chiller over there at Jackson Square needs to 318 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:55,880 located that's 3.7 million dollars. We've got a communication tower that needs relocation, 319 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,680 you know, one and a quarter million dollars. So that's so building. We've had a lot of issues 320 00:42:01,420 --> 00:42:08,020 deferred replacing the air conditioner here in this building. The health department director 321 00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:15,060 Mr. Eidings made it clear. This AC cannot fail. He has hundreds of thousands of dollars of 322 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:18,900 vaccines and medications downstairs, that needs to be replaced. 323 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,900 We've got the Rockland Key Public Works. 324 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,300 We've heard from Mr. Strickland, Director Strickland, 325 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,420 that we have to move that from our Key West Fairport. 326 00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:39,160 We have, for the jail, backup generators that need to be that's a million. 327 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,320 And then there are other items that aren't as high 328 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,740 on the priority list but we know they're coming. So we have, for example, the latent 329 00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:55,380 fire solution, 5 million, the sugar low fire station, 5 million. And this list goes on and on 330 00:42:55,380 --> 00:43:03,680 and on of what we're dealing with and how do we prioritize these projects? So let's go to the next slide. 331 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:14,100 parks. So big speech. I know we've been struggling with that. Now if we can delay this 332 00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:23,760 is the road project the top on our list. If you ask staff that answer would most likely 333 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,780 be no. But of course this is a policy decision that only you can make. Big points, 334 00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:33,060 Honeyhole, we've had an impact on that aside. 335 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,100 I can see us postponing, you know, 336 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,700 Higgs Beach v. here because frankly at this point, 337 00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:41,960 it would be probably, you know, early as would be 2022, 338 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:44,580 before we'd be ready to invest that money, 339 00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:46,660 but we were only talking about a million dollars 340 00:43:46,660 --> 00:43:48,140 for the first year investment anyway. 341 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,440 So, yes ma'am, yes, thank you for that. 342 00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:55,980 Rally's waterfront park, you know, 343 00:43:55,980 --> 00:44:03,680 We've had this on the books for many years now and, you know, do we want to delay that or 344 00:44:04,660 --> 00:44:11,440 how do what do we want to do? We can't forget our number one responsibility is public safety. 345 00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:19,620 And so we'd have to defer these fire trucks and ambulances. When in reality, we should be automatically 346 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,140 budget and fire and ambulance replacement. 347 00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:33,200 From the start, you know, it's a very importantly and it's become part of our core service that we provide. 348 00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:39,520 And fire stations, you just heard about the fire stations we know those are in the pipelines. 349 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,540 So you just said that we need to prioritize these and have it. 350 00:44:51,860 --> 00:44:59,980 Are you saying that we don't have in the budget right now on going replace or not going replacement plan for fire trucks and ammunition? 351 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Once we do not automatically make that a priority. We work with fire, rescue, and when we can fit it in, we do. But we are not in the position of just that being an automatic. We have to take a look at it every year. 352 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:29,020 So, you know, it's, do we defer that again so that we can fit another expense in? 353 00:45:29,020 --> 00:45:39,100 But instead should just automatically every year you know you need to put X amount in the bank for ongoing replacement plans. 354 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:46,630 That doesn't always work out because we have other projects that become a priority. 355 00:45:48,370 --> 00:45:58,950 So, you know, again, I'm going to say I'm going to do a better job and I'm going to let you guys see everything and make a choice to prioritize. 356 00:45:58,950 --> 00:46:05,890 is because we can't always fit it in. We may have another capital project that, you know, 357 00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:11,890 commission this commission votes on at once and therefore we can't fit a fire in ambulance 358 00:46:11,890 --> 00:46:19,330 in automatically every year. And we try to fit it into the capital plan whenever we can 359 00:46:19,330 --> 00:46:27,350 And because the other place for it is an ample warm taxing plan, and what we hear is your 360 00:46:27,350 --> 00:46:31,090 constituents at you, reach roll back, reach roll back. 361 00:46:31,290 --> 00:46:36,010 You cannot reach roll back while funding this weekend. 362 00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:38,550 And cost are going up. 363 00:46:39,690 --> 00:46:43,010 You have to, in order to reach roll back, you got to cut your costs. 364 00:46:43,010 --> 00:46:49,450 So, this is one of those areas where we try to alternate ears if you do what we can. 365 00:46:50,970 --> 00:46:55,850 Can't meet rollback if you don't raise taxes in the fire fund. 366 00:46:56,750 --> 00:47:01,730 So, we have to alternate ears in the capital plan as the money is available. 367 00:47:03,110 --> 00:47:05,470 I hope that answered your question. 368 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:09,300 Yes, sir. 369 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,140 It does answer the question for Maine, 370 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,840 it's a budgeting question, but it's also a false 371 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,980 awful question, at least in certain areas. 372 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:30,740 And one of the things I would feel remiss, if I didn't mention, is that we have in 373 00:47:30,740 --> 00:47:37,720 promise are right now approximately nine million dollars worth of helicopters providing 374 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:46,780 that service. Last year, I believe we had somewhere around a billion dollars in the black. 375 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,800 In other words, it earned about a million dollars more of their cost. 376 00:47:54,380 --> 00:47:56,960 We are not doing anything 377 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:06,240 and maybe we don't want to in this plan, but it should be realized that an argument could be made 378 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:11,760 for taking part of the profit from tromester every year. 379 00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:19,560 First, we'll be taking part of it this year because we're not making money so far this year, 380 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:28,340 I believe. But when it comes sound to buy a new helicopter, chances are even the use helicopters 381 00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:36,040 in the condition that we have obtained these would be 3 million that may be 4 or 4 and 382 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:44,680 a half. We could be building a fund so that that doesn't come as a significant budget 383 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:50,340 blow in the particular year that a helicopter has to be replaced. 384 00:48:51,360 --> 00:49:01,420 You are absolutely correct, missionarized, and you know better than anybody, you know, how the helicopter program works. 385 00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:10,180 You started it, you started it, I did a special presentation for you, and you kicked this off. 386 00:49:10,180 --> 00:49:12,980 So, you're absolutely correct. 387 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,500 My issue is that as the costs for everything else 388 00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,180 in the sheriffs fund goes up automatically, 389 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,200 and this isn't a dig, it just is a reality. 390 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,560 We use those profits so that we can get to roll back. 391 00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:35,960 And the problem is we have to get our mindset, 392 00:49:37,330 --> 00:49:48,370 I believe we have to get our mindset into that swing of understanding as costs go up. 393 00:49:48,510 --> 00:49:52,510 The revenue has to go up or we can't run the program. 394 00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:56,730 So in the case, it makes a profit. 395 00:49:57,470 --> 00:50:03,270 But the jail doesn't make a profit and the sheriff doesn't make a profit. 396 00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:11,810 fact this year the share of lost $2 million of revenue that he had helped us keep taxes down. 397 00:50:13,370 --> 00:50:22,610 So if we don't raise revenue and expenditure keep coming home, we'll have the same scenario each year. 398 00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:31,390 But I think we're saying I understand that this is not the year to consider moving in that direction. 399 00:50:32,510 --> 00:50:39,150 the worst year we could choose to do that. However, it's not a bad concept in budgeting, 400 00:50:41,130 --> 00:50:54,390 and we may want to consider that next year or the year after, but we need an 401 00:50:54,390 --> 00:51:03,650 budget you're to make any moves in that direction. I will understand that. Thank you. Thank you, 402 00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:11,490 Commissioner Rice. It's an excellent point. I appreciate you bringing it up. Okay, so we covered 403 00:51:11,490 --> 00:51:23,100 that and then we work with Judy Clark and she helps to based on what kind of money we think we're 404 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:30,260 And to have, she tries to give us what the priority projects are. 405 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:36,000 And so these are some of the things out there that, you know, don't have funding. 406 00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:43,340 And a Harvard drive, a Tubby's Creek in the Skido Creek Bridge, 7 million hard sound 407 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:49,200 bridge planning, 2 million of no name kid, no name key bridge repair. 408 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:57,780 of a course twin lakes, which we know we've been hearing about sand subdivision, the still 409 00:51:57,780 --> 00:52:08,660 right point, and right now she's at this avenue, see on big cockpit to these are projects 410 00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:11,100 that we've been talking about that aren't funded. 411 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:18,780 So on these, most of these projects, we have applied for grant funding wherever we can, 412 00:52:18,780 --> 00:52:22,540 And then we hope we can cover our portion of it. 413 00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:26,800 So I think, and then we get to, you know, 414 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,520 so this is the question that we have to start thinking about working towards, 415 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,620 I know you all talked about a special meeting. 416 00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:39,180 So how do we pay for all of these projects? 417 00:52:39,980 --> 00:52:43,740 The resilience, wanting to order the roads and the bridges, 418 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,900 we can start thinking about what our options are. 419 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:58,160 So we just threw some on here, here in the budget office, we've got the MSTU, MSBUs, you know, the non-adblower 420 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:07,080 and special assessments, storm water utility, if you do, do we think about a storm water utility? 421 00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:16,040 Of course, there are general obligation bonds, go bonds are called, and so that's a debt service 422 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:23,080 that we charged in the envelope, and it's a voted debt service, so that's something 423 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,980 that's out there. 424 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:35,180 And, of course, the toll on US-1, that Mayor, who remembers us, that we may want to 425 00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:36,000 do. 426 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:44,340 We've got, uh, is there an additional sales tax or a changing of a sales tax that we may 427 00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:51,660 use to help us fund a comprehensive, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, 428 00:53:51,660 --> 00:53:55,340 Growth Plan, um, uh, uh, uh, available Grants funds. 429 00:53:55,940 --> 00:54:04,600 We, uh, looking at every grant we have, and Ms. Hurley will give us a little update on the work that 430 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:20,020 She's been involved, and then are there any kind of legislative appropriations if we come up with some kind of three-legged schools to an area as we did to get wastewater vote? 431 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:26,800 And so, you know, one example that we just talked about create a stormwater utility. 432 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:34,680 So, do we address all of the road elevation, all of the drainage, do we address, you know, 433 00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:37,440 stormwater run off into mere shore of waters? 434 00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:42,860 This is all kind of connected in my mind. 435 00:54:44,060 --> 00:54:53,120 And so we have, as discussed, Ms. Hurley, can you talk about the all of the grant awards 436 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,580 we have? 437 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,800 Grant projects. 438 00:54:56,860 --> 00:54:57,180 Sure. 439 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:05,000 And I wanted to start out by saying we're a little bit lucky that Irma hit because it 440 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:19,360 open a lot of potential grant opportunities for us. If you look at this chart, it's just a summary of the different programs that have been available to us. 441 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:26,560 The light blue card projects are what's called C-V-V-D-R infrastructure repair. 442 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:36,180 You'll see that E-A-5-4-3 grant in that program, rock, harbor, breakwater, tap-nair, breakwater, 443 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,140 and fans, road, elevation. 444 00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:47,470 Those applications are complete, and we have upcoming meetings with the Department of 445 00:55:47,470 --> 00:55:51,210 economic opportunity, which, to us, is a really good sign. 446 00:55:52,270 --> 00:55:55,230 They want to go over the great applications with us. 447 00:55:56,110 --> 00:56:03,250 The next category is called CDBGNet. 448 00:56:04,330 --> 00:56:16,470 And that is for mitigation projects, which is very focused on what our commission has been working toward as far as building up our infrastructure more resiliently. 449 00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:27,110 We submitted the Tavenir Fire Station and the Jail on Sock Island into the Harden program. 450 00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:31,690 So that was like a sub-category of the mitigation funding. 451 00:56:33,250 --> 00:56:38,630 The next category that I'm going to talk about skip the yellow one. 452 00:56:38,650 --> 00:56:40,430 That's more of a planning effort. 453 00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:46,430 but the ones that are kind of a mustard brown at the bottom are 454 00:56:47,850 --> 00:56:54,470 mitigation projects, general infrastructure, and they're calling this round one. 455 00:56:55,130 --> 00:56:59,370 They anticipate there will be another round two and round three. 456 00:57:00,210 --> 00:57:07,490 But we have now gotten permission from the Board in August to submit five projects 457 00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:15,430 to the DEO for funding, SAM's subdivision is one of those, and we already talked about 458 00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:22,590 when up in the DR infrastructure program. So we'll actually have that in two parts. 459 00:57:23,550 --> 00:57:29,930 And the reason is the SAM subdivision meets the load of moderate income category. 460 00:57:30,510 --> 00:57:34,430 So that's a really important eligibility criteria. 461 00:57:34,430 --> 00:57:41,050 We try to make sure that we submit grants based on the Shrite Curious, so we will win them. 462 00:57:42,270 --> 00:57:46,450 The next projects that are being submitted is twin-lake. 463 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:56,010 Still write, wrote elevation, and then the public works facility relocation away from the airport, 464 00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:58,970 and avenues see on big carpet. 465 00:57:58,970 --> 00:58:07,310 Those applications will all be submitted by September 14th, and of course we're hoping for 466 00:58:07,310 --> 00:58:15,110 the EO interest and then ranking. And then if you'll turn the page of Christina, this 467 00:58:15,110 --> 00:58:23,270 is more of a placeholder. This is where I already anticipated round two of the mitigation funding. 468 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:30,290 funding, we will probably be able to submit any of those in the mustard brown color once 469 00:58:30,290 --> 00:58:37,490 there's five again in round two, and then rock harbor and the sea wall at West Martello. 470 00:58:37,730 --> 00:58:43,010 Those look like they might be eligible projects for round two, so we're following that criteria, 471 00:58:44,050 --> 00:58:49,690 meeting with the EOS staff and making sure that we're aware of the types of programs 472 00:58:49,690 --> 00:58:51,010 that are coming our way. 473 00:58:51,010 --> 00:58:59,890 And then not on this screen, but I thought I mentioned you, FEMA has initiated a new grant program. 474 00:59:00,810 --> 00:59:07,750 They've unveiled it, recently, most of the staff has attended webinars just to make sure we're up to date. 475 00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:12,370 And the name of that is called brick, the acronym, BRIC. 476 00:59:13,130 --> 00:59:17,230 It stands for building resilient infrastructure in communities. 477 00:59:18,070 --> 00:59:26,230 And it seems like FEMA is going to focus on using mitigation money for infrastructure, 478 00:59:26,590 --> 00:59:34,030 which in the past, the proactive FEMA programs haven't really done. 479 00:59:34,030 --> 00:59:41,190 So that we think is going to be a good opportunity for the county and that concludes my summary. 480 00:59:43,730 --> 00:59:44,910 Thank you, Kristi. 481 00:59:47,450 --> 00:59:59,970 So as we put all of this together and think about how we're going to build a, I guess, a program for this. 482 01:00:00,740 --> 01:00:17,780 We need to talk about all the elements for planning that staff has worked on and are putting together, so that we can address all the roads instead of, you know, one at a time and figure out how we can get this job accomplished. 483 01:00:17,780 --> 01:00:22,440 And so this is just a list of some of, you know, the elements of planning. 484 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:29,560 Of course, everyone knows the Army Corps of Engineers report is being worked on. 485 01:00:30,020 --> 01:00:31,680 We have the green keys. 486 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,860 Round to about the key. 487 01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:35,380 Green keys to the level rise. 488 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,220 Vulnerability study done. 489 01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:42,320 Part of that is road elevation with the pavement study. 490 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,760 It looks like that. 491 01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:47,750 Okay. 492 01:00:47,750 --> 01:01:16,030 And the drainage structures, it's critical facilities, like county facilities, fire stations, police stations, jails, and then she's working now on the county wide road abdaptation study, which will define which roads are prioritised that we need to prioritize, I'm sorry, I didn't say that right. 493 01:01:16,030 --> 01:01:26,410 So we'll define our rows and prioritize those rows, and you can see there that's due on March. 494 01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:37,450 And then, of course, we'll have to develop a funding plan or a way that the board can vote on making the funding available. 495 01:01:37,450 --> 01:01:45,770 And we covered some of those potential sources on the slide earlier, water quality report. 496 01:01:46,950 --> 01:01:54,750 GIS, overlay, I know they're doing some exciting things, overlaying the low-lying areas. 497 01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:57,250 So you can see it visually. 498 01:01:58,010 --> 01:02:03,810 And then, of course, we need a stormwater master plan included including a capital plan. 499 01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:12,110 So we can figure all this out and next we just paid some direction from the commission. 500 01:02:12,250 --> 01:02:17,470 We'd like to recommend a workshop and I know that you have the does I or for that. 501 01:02:18,650 --> 01:02:25,010 So unless you have any questions, county at the wrong, do you have any input there? 502 01:02:27,090 --> 01:02:32,350 No, I wonder if you take the screen down. Let's go back to see all of us. 503 01:02:33,810 --> 01:02:41,810 I think the bottom line is that we presented this budget now for a few months, made a few 504 01:02:41,810 --> 01:02:47,590 weeks to a budget as a dynamic process and changes every day, but nothing's significant. 505 01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:56,430 Certainly dropping major projects that have been in the works for years, for other new projects 506 01:02:56,430 --> 01:03:01,990 or other projects is not something we're recommending, but we recommend going with the project 507 01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:12,310 We'll do a presentation next week that includes the budget that we have both in operations and in capital. 508 01:03:13,170 --> 01:03:19,850 And then in November, we'll start talking about the potential funding sources to attack, you know, 509 01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:28,570 to have a billion dollar projects and see level rise adaptations that we have in the next 25 years. 510 01:03:28,570 --> 01:03:30,830 but right now we have a committee and it changes. 511 01:03:31,350 --> 01:03:32,330 So that's the bottom one. 512 01:03:35,110 --> 01:03:35,590 Okay. 513 01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:40,790 I just want to say that I'm glad that we're going ahead 514 01:03:40,790 --> 01:03:41,990 with a workshop in November. 515 01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:45,690 I think that we should start to use a word 516 01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:49,110 that's been thrown around a lot, cryo-artizing, potential 517 01:03:49,110 --> 01:03:52,970 funding mechanisms in terms of what's going to be 518 01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:55,410 the most expeditious and what's going to provide 519 01:03:55,410 --> 01:04:01,950 the most funding over time, and that doesn't mean that we make the decision in November, 520 01:04:02,290 --> 01:04:09,970 but it means that we have our suite of options prepared, and once we get that road adaptation 521 01:04:09,970 --> 01:04:17,990 study back, I think we'll have a better idea of what timeframe and costs are going to be. 522 01:04:18,350 --> 01:04:25,390 Then we can get some of those things made require referendum that we're going to have to get 523 01:04:25,390 --> 01:04:30,150 the elections are going to be, if that's how we're going to do it, and other things are 524 01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:37,050 going to require legislative lifts. We'll have to take a look at the landscape, you know, 525 01:04:37,130 --> 01:04:46,150 after November, in Tallahassee, and as well as in DC to see where we are. So I'm just unhappy 526 01:04:46,930 --> 01:04:51,130 that those are the things that we're talking about right now. And I just want to say, carry, 527 01:04:51,130 --> 01:04:53,430 You're so handsome tonight with that. 528 01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:54,290 Try and everything. 529 01:04:54,490 --> 01:04:56,590 It's like I hardly even recognized you for a second. 530 01:04:59,470 --> 01:05:00,970 Commissioners and the other comments 531 01:05:00,970 --> 01:05:02,470 before we ask for public input. 532 01:05:08,420 --> 01:05:09,680 Okay, do we have any public speakers? 533 01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:11,260 We do. 534 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,680 We have one public speaker in Esther or so. 535 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:15,720 All right. 536 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:16,520 Let's go ahead. 537 01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:20,190 Good evening, commissioners. 538 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,860 I'm kind of speechless right now. 539 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:27,560 As I'm sure you can imagine, I'm very disappointed 540 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,620 it to end at the start and to hear this conversation after the Constitution at the last 541 01:05:31,620 --> 01:05:32,420 meeting. 542 01:05:33,820 --> 01:05:39,660 Twin-late fans pilot projects is not a new capital project, this is something that has 543 01:05:39,660 --> 01:05:44,640 been in the works for six years now and that a lot of work has been done in a lot of money 544 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,400 spent on getting us to the VR. 545 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,580 At your meeting last month, I'm sorry, not last month, that's the last meeting, it was 546 01:05:51,580 --> 01:05:56,700 commented that the city's accounting needs to fund and complete this pilot project so 547 01:05:56,700 --> 01:06:01,800 that the board can figure out what kind of technologies work and can be used at employee 548 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:02,640 countywide. 549 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:08,600 And I feel like now, once that board, last meeting or taking two steps back, I understand 550 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:14,620 there's not enough money in your budget this year to fully fund the construction of the pilot 551 01:06:14,620 --> 01:06:15,320 projects. 552 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:24,280 What I don't understand is it seems to me that this pilot project is now getting lumped together 553 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:30,060 with the county wide analysis, and then funding, which you're looking at in March of 2021, 554 01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:35,320 and talking about prioritizing roads, and what I really would like to understand from the board 555 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,440 is, is that what you're saying? Are you saying that this pilot project now, it'll longer 556 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:45,000 exist the pilot project, and you're going to look at this project along with everything else in the county, 557 01:06:45,140 --> 01:06:50,880 and so we shouldn't even expect any kind of decision on funding until after the whole county wide analysis 558 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,460 is done, and funding is determined county widened. 559 01:06:54,460 --> 01:07:00,960 This roof, so did you not see the list of where we have already applied for funding to 560 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,860 these projects? 561 01:07:02,140 --> 01:07:07,700 I did see the list, but I also understand that it's highly unlikely we're going to get the 562 01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:13,140 grant that have been applied for, especially because Plin Lake is not considered a low-income 563 01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:14,580 moderate income neighborhood. 564 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,480 So, you know, what I don't want to see is I'm living in this house suffering along with 565 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:26,120 neighbors for years and years to come when we have no plan for together on how this is going 566 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:31,740 to get funded. You know, at the end of the day, but not going to get funded now or soon or in 567 01:07:31,740 --> 01:07:37,380 three years or five years, I want to know what is going on with where I am living and making decisions 568 01:07:37,380 --> 01:07:44,900 that affect my life. And I understood that the county was funding the construction for this project. 569 01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:51,320 I also understand that the engineers you all hired came in at a number initially that then was 570 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,620 is now eight hundred times or so higher than what they initially predicted. I don't 571 01:07:55,620 --> 01:08:00,160 have the length of me to not understand how that happens with an expert. Understand the county 572 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:04,260 commissioners, this is your first time doing this kind of project, but I don't understand how your 573 01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:10,760 experts, you know, made such a drastic under estimation of what the cost would be. 574 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,760 But like I said, I just want to know, are you putting us together with the whole county-wide projects? 575 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:21,560 So we're not the pilot project, the learning project anymore, and this whole thing is getting delayed until who knows when. 576 01:08:24,210 --> 01:08:25,730 Thank you for your input. 577 01:08:27,070 --> 01:08:32,530 As I've said, we have already proceeded to try to find funding for those projects for those pilot projects. 578 01:08:33,410 --> 01:08:41,410 And in November, we're going to begin working on developing funding plans for those projects as well. 579 01:08:41,410 --> 01:08:46,670 all of our other projects. Judy, I don't know if you want to address any of the other 580 01:08:46,670 --> 01:08:54,510 comments that were made. I would add just briefly, in addition to the grants that Christine 581 01:08:54,510 --> 01:09:01,190 Hurley had gone through, the two pilot projects, the sand subdivision, and the twin-lake 582 01:09:01,190 --> 01:09:10,130 subdivision, we also applied for the FEMA HMGP grants, which is another funding source that comes 583 01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:17,910 There's a pot of money that comes after certain disasters in the state, and we've gone through, 584 01:09:17,930 --> 01:09:23,410 it has now gotten to a level where they've come back to us and asked for additional information. 585 01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:30,970 They haven't given us an award yet, but that's another attempt we've made to find funding. 586 01:09:31,210 --> 01:09:37,430 And that was specifically for the two pilot projects that have been designed. 587 01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:51,250 So, you know, we aren't, I wouldn't say that we're lumping it all together, but we are, you know, proceeding as, as best we can and as the numbers have shown, there are things that aren't funded this year. 588 01:09:52,290 --> 01:09:55,830 Mayor, could I add just a little bit to that? 589 01:09:55,990 --> 01:10:04,730 I think it's important to say that the HMGP program is not based on the income of the property owners, 590 01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:08,510 which makes it different from the CDBG and MIT. 591 01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:14,030 So I think that helps the twin lakes project. 592 01:10:14,030 --> 01:10:20,110 And then also, as 593 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:37,280 the grant and funding sources become available, unfortunately, what happens is, and we as staff have to say, oh, is this project going to meet that criteria? 594 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:45,200 And if, for example, when I showed you the first three projects we submitted, only the 595 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:50,060 sand is was submitted because that one had a definite load of moderate requirement. 596 01:10:51,740 --> 01:10:58,700 So, when you get the next round of the program, we did submit twin lakes and others because 597 01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:03,420 a portion of the projects have to be loaded moderate, but not all. 598 01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:12,600 So there is a possibility, it all depends on how it shakes out on the end in scoring that Twin Lakes could be approved. 599 01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:26,080 And so we as staff have to structure the grants and apply for them based on the federal and state criteria we get otherwise we're submitting without, you know, knowing we're not going to be qualified. 600 01:11:26,540 --> 01:11:29,800 And I think that's a distinction that the public needs to hear. 601 01:11:32,140 --> 01:11:33,820 Thanks, Christine Roman. 602 01:11:34,300 --> 01:11:36,780 Looks like you're, are you about to say something to? 603 01:11:37,620 --> 01:11:40,140 Nope. Oh, that'll get it. 604 01:11:41,180 --> 01:11:47,120 Well, I just wanted to say, you know, for the public, that a lot of this planning 605 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:52,900 has been severely affected for the county commissioners based on COVID. 606 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:58,780 I mean, you know, we're looking at a 13 million dollar revenue loss just for the 607 01:11:58,780 --> 01:12:05,780 So the county commission doesn't have the flexibility that they would normally have. 608 01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:08,220 It's very uncertain. 609 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:14,360 Roman has described it as a time of uncertainty and I, you know, 610 01:12:14,540 --> 01:12:16,440 couldn't be more accurate, really. 611 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,220 Madam Mayor, I come at Mr. Kates. 612 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,000 Yes. 613 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:27,860 I'd like to ask if we could commit to these projects that's been on the books for a long time 614 01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:35,680 that if, obviously, we'll apply some grants, we'll get parts, if we get partial funding that 615 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:46,420 if our revenues are higher than we expect, that they would be a top priority to get those 616 01:12:46,420 --> 01:12:52,520 parts done, not look at other projects. I think we can make that kind of commitment to our 617 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:57,060 residents that have been waiting so long for these projects. I know they got to understand 618 01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:01,960 what we're going to do right now, but I think we should show that kind of commitment that they will be a 619 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:10,160 priority if the funding revenue sources are higher than what we are anticipating and move forward 620 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,980 that in that case. 621 01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:13,100 Thank you. 622 01:13:14,220 --> 01:13:14,860 Commissioner Foldire? 623 01:13:15,940 --> 01:13:16,580 Thank you. 624 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:23,200 I'm going to segue off of what Commissioner Cates just said, and I'm really looking forward 625 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:29,700 when we can sit down and have a workshop on this and as one of the newer commissioners here 626 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:37,180 on the day is I wasn't here and neither was commissioner Kate's when the pilot projects studies were 627 01:13:37,180 --> 01:13:43,040 first created and I think at the workshop it would be nice if we went into a little of that history 628 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:49,920 as well because when I hear the word a pilot project study I feel like we're going to do a project 629 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:55,820 not just a study. And if there's that word project in there, I would have anticipated 630 01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:02,580 all along that we would have had even maybe a line item in our budget where we've been 631 01:14:02,580 --> 01:14:08,760 throwing a little money in every year to get ready for when we were ready for the construction 632 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:15,280 part of the project. And this is something that I would like for us to be able to discuss at the workshop 633 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:22,120 Because I agree if this is supposed to be a project where we're going to practice to see what 634 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:28,280 works for our flooding areas and this is already identified as an area, I feel like this 635 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,380 is the next step. 636 01:14:30,460 --> 01:14:35,800 And even if we can't completely find it this year, if we at least start having a line item, 637 01:14:36,140 --> 01:14:41,980 where this is money that's going to go in there, then we know we're doing our part and as 638 01:14:41,980 --> 01:14:47,440 We have a workshop and we discuss other ideas of what kind of public private partnerships 639 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:52,340 we can come up with not just grants but everything else that we're adding to that 640 01:14:52,340 --> 01:14:56,920 So that we can start funding these projects. 641 01:14:58,780 --> 01:14:59,980 So I'm looking... 642 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:14,080 We're going to go forward to this workshop, but I'm going to guess we're going to have more than one. So I hear it. And I understand that we'll make sure we get that, you know, discussion at the workshop. 643 01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:22,040 Well, I probably won't be here when this workshop takes place, but trust me, I will be 644 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,480 listening. It's going to be very, very interesting. 645 01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:32,280 Yeah, would it be out of line for me to say something to Commissioner Murphy? 646 01:15:32,860 --> 01:15:37,820 Because it next week's going to be a really long day, and then we're going to try to get the budget. 647 01:15:38,260 --> 01:15:42,100 And I might get rushed through it, but this is your last budget. 648 01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:47,760 I don't want to cry, but I want to just, it's better pleasure in an honor to serve. 649 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:57,440 And you've really made me grow and pushed my limits. And I love you very much. It, thank you. 650 01:15:59,620 --> 01:16:01,080 And now you're making me cry. 651 01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:05,900 Yeah, probably all of us will be. 652 01:16:09,390 --> 01:16:12,190 I think I shall put my goodbyes in like this. 653 01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,090 I think I can stand up and read it. 654 01:16:16,190 --> 01:16:20,370 If I can't finish reading it, I think seven would finish it for me. 655 01:16:20,430 --> 01:16:21,390 Would you Kevin? 656 01:16:23,650 --> 01:16:25,350 They're getting ready to cry too. 657 01:16:27,150 --> 01:16:27,330 Yeah. 658 01:16:27,330 --> 01:16:29,690 Oh, Kevin will not cry, trust me. 659 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,280 I just needed to tell you that before we got so caught up, that I didn't get the opportunity. 660 01:16:36,740 --> 01:16:37,360 Well, thank you. 661 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,900 Thank you very much, Tina. 662 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:46,760 I have not seen her since she was not the director, not the assistant director, not the 663 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:54,120 anything really. You just sat there and did her different job and she did it so well, 664 01:16:54,500 --> 01:16:59,020 but there she sits now. She's the boss. Congratulations, Kessa. 665 01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:04,900 Thank you, Commissioner Murphy. You will be missed. Very much. 666 01:17:05,420 --> 01:17:06,320 Thank you. 667 01:17:07,660 --> 01:17:13,040 Absolutely. Commissioners, any other comments about the budget update? 668 01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:18,130 Any other public input? 669 01:17:19,570 --> 01:17:22,010 Seeing no members from the public with their hands raised. 670 01:17:23,690 --> 01:17:26,550 All right. Next item, Pam. 671 01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:33,110 Item F, announcement of the public hearing for final adoption of the fiscal year 2021 672 01:17:33,770 --> 01:17:39,460 millilitrates and budget public hearing to be held at 505 p.m. on Wednesdays at 673 01:17:39,460 --> 01:17:46,820 16, 2020 at htpf, colon, forward slash, forward slash, 674 01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:59,320 www.monrockcounty-ethel.gov, forward slash, budget, set 16, and that's B-U-E-D-S-A-P-16. 675 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:09,440 For soon to executive order, number 20-69, extended by executive orders, number 20-12-20-139, 676 01:18:09,860 --> 01:18:20,480 20-150, and 20-179, Monroe County Emergency Directives, 20-06, and 20-10, and the Center for Disease Control, 677 01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:25,860 social distancing guidelines established to contain the spread of the COVID-19 virus. 678 01:18:26,340 --> 01:18:32,460 The September 16th, 2020 public hearing will be conducted via communication, media 679 01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:36,360 technology using a Zoom webinar platform. 680 01:18:42,210 --> 01:18:42,810 Any comments? 681 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:46,490 We have G, Commissioners comments. 682 01:18:51,410 --> 01:19:00,970 All right, here I am now, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn, which I know Commissioner Rice always likes to be the first one to give. 683 01:19:00,990 --> 01:19:12,990 All right, we're honored and we'll talk to you all next week and enjoy the rest of the week, guys.